Drea de Matteo | Club Random with Bill Maher

Bill kicks back with Sopranos star Drea de Matteo for an unfiltered hang that runs from Italian pride to behind-the-scenes lore – casting authenticity and on-set memories. Drea opens up about career turbulence, agency fallout, and her OnlyFans pivot. They also trade takes on Catholic school, politics, spirituality, AI’s impact on work, art vs. ideology in entertainment, and the tough math of streaming, strikes, and residuals. They even lament vanishing bees – earning Bill the nickname “Snow White” – before one last reveal: his latest hotel alias. Subscribe to the Club Random YouTube channel: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/c/clubrandompodcast?sub_confirmation=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Watch episodes ad-free – subscribe to Bill Maher’s Substack: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://billmaher.substack.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you listen: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/ClubRandom⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Support our Advertisers: Go to https://zbiotics.com/RANDOM and use RANDOM at checkout for 15% off any first time orders of ZBiotics probiotics. Get $35 off your first box of wild-caught, sustainable seafood—delivered right to your door. Go to: https://www.wildalaskan.com/RANDOM. It’s summer, and it's time to heat up your strategy before your competitors beat you to it. Go to ⁠⁠https://www. RadioActiveMedia.com⁠⁠ or text RANDOM to 511-511. Message and Data Rates May Apply. Buy Club Random Merch: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clubrandom.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices ABOUT CLUB RANDOM Bill Maher rewrites the rules of podcasting the way he did in television in this series of one on one, hour long conversations with a wide variety of unexpected guests in the undisclosed location called Club Random. There’s a whole big world out there that isn’t about politics and Bill and his guests—from Bill Burr and Jerry Seinfeld to Jordan Peterson, Quentin Tarantino and Neil DeGrasse Tyson—talk about all of it. For advertising opportunities please email: [email protected] ABOUT BILL MAHER Bill Maher was the host of “Politically Incorrect” (Comedy Central, ABC) from 1993-2002, and for the last fourteen years on HBO’s “Real Time,” Maher’s combination of unflinching honesty and big laughs have garnered him 40 Emmy nominations. Maher won his first Emmy in 2014 as executive producer for the HBO series, “VICE.” In October of 2008, this same combination was on display in Maher’s uproarious and unprecedented swipe at organized religion, “Religulous.” Maher has written five bestsellers: “True Story,” “Does Anybody Have a Problem with That? Politically Incorrect’s Greatest Hits,” “When You Ride Alone, You Ride with Bin Laden,” “New Rules: Polite Musings from a Timid Observer,” and most recently, “The New New Rules: A Funny Look at How Everybody But Me Has Their Head Up Their Ass.” FOLLOW CLUB RANDOM https://www.clubrandom.com https://www.facebook.com/Club-Random-101776489118185 https://twitter.com/clubrandom_ https://www.instagram.com/clubrandompodcast https://www.tiktok.com/@clubrandompodcast FOLLOW BILL MAHER https://www.billmaher.com https://twitter.com/billmaher https://www.instagram.com/billmaher Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 1:31Speaker 03

  He's young. He's young.

• 1:33Bill Maher?

  Oh, look at you. That's my girl. Come on, give me a pound on that one.

• 1:40Bill Maher?

  And then Hummingbirds showed up and they wanted a piece of the action.

• 1:43Speaker 03

  You were like snow fucking white, Phil.

• 1:52Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:52Bill Maher?

  No, you held up amazingly well.

• 1:55Speaker 03

  Well, thanks.

• 1:55Bill Maher?

  You look pretty much the same as when we... Well.

• 2:00Speaker 03

  But thanks.

• 2:01Bill Maher?

  No, really, because it is a great variance how people age. I mean, there are people who are almost the same age or of the same age, and you look at them and like, wow, one looks like 10, sometimes 15 years older. A lot of it has to do with movie stars. They're out in the sun all the time.

• 2:21Speaker 03

  I'm in the sun.

• 2:22Bill Maher?

  All the time?

• 2:23Speaker 03

  I love it.

• 2:24Bill Maher?

  But you don't wear any sun... Well, you're Italian, right?

• 2:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, but I'm see-through white. But, yeah, but I just got back from a trip.

• 2:33Bill Maher?

  You look like you've just got a healthy tan.

• 2:36Speaker 03

  I'm very tan right now. I was away for a big vacation.

• 2:40Bill Maher?

  Oh, really? Where'd you go?

• 2:42Speaker 03

  I was in Italy for four weeks and then Greece.

• 2:46Bill Maher?

  So you've obviously have strong feelings about your heritage. Or do you? I don't know.

• 2:53Speaker 03

  Yes, I do. I love being Italian. It's my favorite thing.

• 2:56Bill Maher?

  I mean, that's one thing I gotta say about The Sopranos. Like, he did not hire one person who wasn't actually Italian, that I can think of, for an Italian role. Even if it was a guest, Buscemi, you know, whoever was the, like, guest, sort of like, arc, even that person was Italian. Obviously, Stevie Vancant, not Italian, but...

• 3:18Speaker 03

  I think he is.

• 3:18Bill Maher?

  Like I said, he's Italian, too.

• 3:20Speaker 03

  Nancy Marchand, maybe not.

• 3:22Bill Maher?

  Okay, that's probably right.

• 3:23Speaker 03

  I could be wrong, though.

• 3:24Bill Maher?

  But, I mean, it was...

• 3:28Bill Maher?

  I mean, same with, you know, Al Pacino and Marlon Brando. It's like, not Jamie Khan.

• 3:35Speaker 03

  I didn't get a part on the show because he didn't think I was Italian enough. But because I was Italian, he asked me to play just some, you know, the hostess. This is my favorite to just watch you drink. This is iconic for me to sit here with you. I'm gonna interrupt myself.

• 3:53Bill Maher?

  Thank you.

• 3:53Speaker 03

  What are you drinking?

• 3:55Bill Maher?

  I'm drinking 818 in the hopes of getting the Kardashians to come on this show.

• 3:59Speaker 03

  That's their booze.

• 4:01Bill Maher?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Chris was here, but so far, you know, they're avoiding me. I don't know why women have a great time here. We're gonna have a great time.

• 4:12Speaker 03

  Well, there aren't that many chicks on your show, right?

• 4:14Bill Maher?

  There's not many chicks on any guy's show. This is one of the big problems with this country, is that, you know... We're just going in opposite directions in every possible way that matters. Certainly politically.

• 4:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:27Bill Maher?

  We'll talk about that. But also just like gender. Like, guys are not interested in what the chicks are talking about. They're not.

• 4:35Speaker 03

  What are the chicks talking about?

• 4:36Bill Maher?

  Who the fuck knows? I'm a guy, I don't know. I'm not interested. No, I'm kidding. But guys are much more interested, yes, they, in subjects that might veer into, I mean, certainly the bro shows. Some of it's about protein powder and like making your dick hard. But a lot of it is political.

• 4:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:53Bill Maher?

  And a lot of it, to my view, is political wrong. But at least it's like on the subject. It's not just Travis Gelse and Brad. And Dallas Ripley getting a date.

• 5:05Speaker 03

  I know.

• 5:05Bill Maher?

  I mean, did you see this today?

• 5:07Speaker 03

  No, I don't, I see, I don't even know.

• 5:09Bill Maher?

  You didn't hear that they're getting, they got.

• 5:11Speaker 03

  I saw it last night because my girlfriend's staying with me. And so the news is on, the TV's never on in my house. But she was watching TV and I was like, oh. I was like, that's cute. Like, I'm trying to, oh, what's that?

• 5:22Bill Maher?

  Exactly, that's, oh, I'm just roofing myself.

• 5:26Speaker 03

  What did you, what did you, what do you got?

• 5:28Bill Maher?

  I go through this every show.

• 5:30Speaker 03

  Sorry, sorry.

• 5:30Bill Maher?

  No, no, it's natural for people to say, I, these, these people better fucking send me a case of steaks or like the head of Alfredo Garcia or something. I don't know, but like every week I plug this. I love it, I do like it. It's Jing. It's a way to make, like, just sparkling water into soda, like diet soda, but without any chemicals. Would you like some Jing?

• 5:53Speaker 03

  I want to know what the hell this is. I'm gonna need glasses now. Where are my glasses?

• 5:58Bill Maher?

  This should be called the Jing. This is like the Jing Hour with Bill Maher.

• 6:01Speaker 03

  Jingeling? Does this make, put a little jingeling in your fucking cup?

• 6:05Bill Maher?

  Well, Jing. They used to, you know, like name the variety shows on TV, the sponsor would, it would be like. The Kraft Hour with Danny Kaye, you know? That's how they used to do TV. Like the sponsor got right in the name before the star.

• 6:21Speaker 03

  It's funny to watch everybody that never, um, that is used to being on television, all these news folks, even yourself, doing your own commercials now. Instead of seeing the commercials come on. And to see you guys reading the commercials, I mean, I did it once too, myself, but.

• 6:39Bill Maher?

  You mean here, because of podcasting?

• 6:40Speaker 03

  Podcasting, yeah.

• 6:41Bill Maher?

  Yeah, I mean HBO is such a great place for many reasons, but one is no commercials. And you don't ever have to like stop the show and say, and now a word from Del Monte.

• 6:51Speaker 03

  Yeah. How long have you been there for now?

• 6:55Bill Maher?

  Twenty, 2002, so 23 years.

• 6:59Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 7:00Bill Maher?

  I know.

• 7:01Speaker 03

  That's amazing.

• 7:02Bill Maher?

  It is amazing. I know.

• 7:04Speaker 03

  That's amazing.

• 7:04Bill Maher?

  And nine years before that on Politically Incorrect. And there was only a six month break between them. I've been on TV since 93, doing similar shows. The first one certainly was sillier, but it was still a issue show.

• 7:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 7:21Bill Maher?

  You know, so, uh, you know, for all the people who hate me, for all the wrong reasons, it's like, I just want to say to them, somebody appears to have liked.

• 7:29Speaker 03

  I love you.

• 7:30Bill Maher?

  I love you too.

• 7:31Speaker 03

  I fucking love you. I'm here for it, man.

• 7:34Bill Maher?

  I know that, you know, we don't agree on everything politically, but nothing bugs me more than people who won't talk to people.

• 7:42Speaker 03

  I know.

• 7:43Bill Maher?

  You know, or, you know, you know, they gave me all that shit because I had dinner with Trump.

• 7:48Speaker 03

  I know.

• 7:49Bill Maher?

  I'm sure you saw that and like, fuck you, I welcome your hatred. That is the stupidest thing in the world, not to talk to people, especially when it's the president.

• 7:57Speaker 03

  I knew you would.

• 7:58Bill Maher?

  And I just want to ask them, is the next question that you have, or the next place we have to go, okay, so I'm not allowed to talk to the President of the United States. What about people who voted for him? Can I talk to Sylvester Stallone? Is that all right? You know, can I talk to you? You know, it's like, shut the fuck up, get out of here.

• 8:15Speaker 03

  Well, I mean, that's going around. I mean, we lost so many friends and, and I don't really even care about.

• 8:21Bill Maher?

  Lost friends, you say?

• 8:22Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah. I mean, or, you know, I don't really, I have a small, but a lot of people, I mean, I've just been, I've, you know, canceled, whatever, I don't really care, but. And I also don't really care who the president is.

• 8:36Bill Maher?

  Well, you should. Well, you should. Well, you should care about both. You certainly should care who the president is. And I'm sure you do care about your career.

• 8:44Speaker 03

  I did. I did. I had a moment where it was like, holy shit, this is happening. This is real. I have to stay in my lane now. I was never, I never cared about politics.

• 8:55Bill Maher?

  And then you do get over it. I would say the analogy for me. My situation is not quite as severe as yours. Because they did, like, you are like, whitelisted. Which is what they call it, when they won't hire a conservative.

• 9:11Speaker 03

  I'm not even a conservative. That's even, that's even the more fun part of it all.

• 9:15Bill Maher?

  Right, right.

• 9:16Speaker 03

  I'm just a disruptor, I guess.

• 9:18Bill Maher?

  But if you voted for Trump, then you're just in this category. And that's, my analogy to that would be, up until 2014, they nominated me for an Emmy 40 times. Never would give it to me. I got it. I was still not woke enough. And then after 2014, it was like, oh, we won't even nominate you anymore. And I'm like, really? I see what the competition is. Are you really telling me I'm not even in that running? Please. It's not even close.

• 9:52Speaker 03

  Oh, Susan Lucci.

• 9:53Bill Maher?

  But that's like, that's a type of, that's a lesser cancellation. And I have the same feeling as I think you do on this, which is like, at first, you're like pissed about it, and then you're like, oh, you know what? I don't care. You beat that out of me. I really don't care. So if you're at that place where you really don't care if they hire you, because you still could do, you know, you look good. You're obviously in that age range where I think actors are their best, when they've like, done it for a while, and they know how to like, act without even getting caught at acting.

• 10:28Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 10:29Bill Maher?

  You know?

• 10:30Speaker 03

  I probably was getting caught, definitely, in the last few years.

• 10:33Bill Maher?

  Really?

• 10:34Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah. I wasn't even, it didn't feel like a huge loss for me, except for financially. I didn't really care about it. I think I never cared about it as much after I did The Sopranos. I think I did it. I conquered it. I won, you know? I didn't think, I never thought that those things were important in my life, but it happened and I was there for it. And then after that, I sort of felt like, I don't know what could be better than this. I don't know.

• 11:00Bill Maher?

  Yeah, you were a key part of the show that, more than any show ever, got critics, not that they're always right, but they did come all over the face of that show in a way I've never seen. I mean, like, things like-

• 11:17Speaker 03

  I love that we speak the same.

• 11:19Bill Maher?

  They said things like, "It is the greatest cultural achievement of the last 50 years." I mean, and it was a very good show. I watched every episode and I loved The Sopranos like so many people did. It was great. I mean, David Chase was a genius.

• 11:36Speaker 03

  It was brand new, too. It was a new medium to have something on cable like that.

• 11:41Bill Maher?

  Yeah.

• 11:42Speaker 03

  They had only a couple of shows at that time.

• 11:44Bill Maher?

  Yeah, no, it really put HBO on a completely different level.

• 11:47Speaker 03

  Yeah. And it had something for everybody. I think that was the key with that show, is that it appealed to so many different kinds of people for different reasons. So, you had the, you know, the critics and the elites and all of the intellectuals. And then you also had, you know, people who wanted a family show. And then you had people that loved the mafia genre. So, everybody got something out of it.

• 12:08Bill Maher?

  Yeah. And there were also plenty of people who kept watching CSI. Were like, "This is too highbrow for me."

• 12:16Speaker 03

  Episode 17,000.

• 12:19Bill Maher?

  But, look, I personally feel like I owe it something of a debt because when you're on HBO, a rising tide lifts all boats. You know, Game of Thrones, The Sopranos, shows like this, that get more people to watch a pay cable network, well, you can't even sample my show unless you're getting the network, unless you're paying for the... So, any show like that, that got more people in the HBO tent-

• 12:48Speaker 03

  Were we the same years?

• 12:50Bill Maher?

  Did good for me. Very similar. I started in 2002 and I think The Sopranos was 2001.

• 12:56Speaker 03

  I always forget the chronology of it, but I think, I think so. I shot the pilot in 99.

• 13:01Bill Maher?

  Was it before 9/11?

• 13:03Speaker 03

  Yes, because they took out the Twin Towers out of the intro.

• 13:07Bill Maher?

  Wow.

• 13:08Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 13:10Bill Maher?

  Yeah, I guess that would have been bad taste.

• 13:13Speaker 03

  I guess so at that time.

• 13:15Bill Maher?

  They took the Twin Towers out? You mean CGI'd it out?

• 13:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 13:19Bill Maher?

  Computer, oh, wow. Had a great intro, that.

• 13:23Speaker 03

  I know.

• 13:24Bill Maher?

  That song and riding across the bridge. I grew up there, you know, so.

• 13:28Speaker 03

  I forget that you're a Jersey boy.

• 13:30Bill Maher?

  Jersey, yes.

• 13:30Speaker 03

  I also didn't know that you weren't a New York Jew. I didn't know you were a Catholic Irish boy. Was your mom Jewish?

• 13:38Bill Maher?

  Yes.

• 13:39Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 13:39Bill Maher?

  I mean.

• 13:39Speaker 03

  Alright, so you're, you're.

• 13:41Bill Maher?

  Culturally, I mean, there was never any, I didn't even know she was until I was a teenager.

• 13:46Speaker 03

  Because usually you do what a mom does. You do what the mom does, and I mean.

• 13:48Bill Maher?

  Really?

• 13:49Speaker 03

  I mean, I mean, my nieces and nephews are all Jewish and their moms are both Jewish. Well, I guess my brother's kids, though, are Jews for Jesus now.

• 13:59Bill Maher?

  What?

• 13:59Speaker 03

  They're Jews for Jesus.

• 14:01Bill Maher?

  Seriously?

• 14:02Speaker 03

  They are.

• 14:03Bill Maher?

  That just makes so little sense. It really does. Jews for Jesus. Do they, do they know Jesus was a Jew?

• 14:12Speaker 03

  Yes, but I mean, just the fact, I mean, you know, some, some people are purists. They don't want to believe, you know, I'm not going to get into the full, although maybe that's my most fun topic these days. Because I totally left the whole, I don't know what's happening in the world politically, but now all I'm doing is trying to trace the origins of where it came from.

• 14:33Bill Maher?

  You mean spiritually?

• 14:35Speaker 03

  Um, yeah, that's one of my fun topics, too, but I'm, I'll probably, I'll probably drink this first.

• 14:42Bill Maher?

  But you were raised Catholic.

• 14:43Speaker 03

  Just kidding. I was raised Catholic, but nobody in my house cared about religion at all at that time.

• 14:51Bill Maher?

  Oh.

• 14:51Speaker 03

  But I was.

• 14:52Bill Maher?

  We cared.

• 14:53Speaker 03

  Obsessed with going to church myself, so I would go by myself. But there were motivations there, like make my confirmation.

• 15:00Bill Maher?

  You wanted to go?

• 15:01Speaker 03

  I wanted to make my confirmation for the party.

• 15:03Bill Maher?

  But why did you want to go to church?

• 15:04Speaker 03

  Well, the hot boys were there, too. I mean.

• 15:07Bill Maher?

  Oh, I missed out on all of this.

• 15:09Speaker 03

  It was a thing. In my neighborhood where I grew up, all the Italian girls and boys, everybody was at church. And then there was my family, who was trying to be progressive, I guess, in Queens, in Whitestone, in the mafia neighborhood. And then my mom was the writer. Then everyone called her the lesbian because she would dress hot and sexy and.

• 15:31Bill Maher?

  I always think of the awesome Billy Joel song, you know, only the good die young. Because it's a, you know, the whole song is about getting a Catholic girl to put it, you know.

• 15:43Speaker 03

  I don't know if I ever paid attention.

• 15:45Bill Maher?

  To that song?

• 15:46Speaker 03

  To the words.

• 15:46Bill Maher?

  You Catholic girls start much too late.

• 15:48Speaker 03

  Yes, that's true. Yep, yep, yep. Okay.

• 15:51Bill Maher?

  Saints and sinners have more fun. I mean, the whole thing is just about, why not do it with me? You're gonna do it Catholic, get rid of the Catholic. It's awesome.

• 16:00Speaker 03

  Well, I think the whole institution thing is not.

• 16:05Bill Maher?

  Yeah.

• 16:06Speaker 03

  I think that, I think that a lot of religion has sort of just been created to keep us down from recognizing our own power.

• 16:16Bill Maher?

  Of course, I mean some of it, all of it.

• 16:17Speaker 03

  But that was Jesus's message when he was talking to people. If you decode all of this stuff.

• 16:23Bill Maher?

  He had a great message.

• 16:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, but the kingdom of, the kingdom of heaven or God is within you. And that's not, it's not here in this church. You don't need to show up there and get into groups. What are we doing now?

• 16:36Bill Maher?

  We're cutting off the.

• 16:38Speaker 03

  Is that weed?

• 16:39Bill Maher?

  I'm circumcising the joint.

• 16:42Speaker 03

  Go ahead. Let's go.

• 16:44Bill Maher?

  Just because.

• 16:45Speaker 03

  I brought Quaaludes by the way.

• 16:46Bill Maher?

  You wanna always.

• 16:47Speaker 03

  Old school Quaaludes. You ready?

• 16:49Bill Maher?

  Quaaludes. Oh my god.

• 16:50Speaker 03

  With the airplane on it, with the seven, what were they called, the seven forty?

• 16:54Bill Maher?

  Seven forty seven, yeah.

• 16:55Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 16:55Bill Maher?

  I only did it once.

• 16:56Speaker 03

  Those were my favorite.

• 16:58Bill Maher?

  Yeah.

• 16:59Speaker 03

  FYI.

• 16:59Bill Maher?

  I wish they worked on me.

• 17:01Speaker 03

  They don't work?

• 17:02Bill Maher?

  I did it once. I was living in New York, my first apartment right out of college. And some guys came over, two friends, and I remember we took the Quaaludes in my little shit box apartment and walked downstairs and started walking down Broadway. I lived at 55th and 8th. And about two blocks in, I just, I was over the hood of a cab. I was just out. Like, Quaaludes.

• 17:31Speaker 03

  You have to fight, you gotta fight the, you gotta fight the high, man. You gotta fight the sleep on that.

• 17:36Bill Maher?

  Well, there was no fighting it. They carried me back to my apartment, which was two, two blocks away. And they put me on the bed, and I woke up fourteen hours later with the door open. The do, and nobody came in and robbed me. That's how poor I was. I'm sure many crooks looked in and went.

• 17:53Speaker 03

  Fifty-eighth and seventh.

• 17:54Bill Maher?

  Nah, there's nothing in here. What?

• 17:56Speaker 03

  Fifty-eighth and seventh, does that work?

• 17:58Bill Maher?

  Fifty-eighth and, no, eighth.

• 18:00Speaker 03

  An eighth.

• 18:00Bill Maher?

  On Eighth Avenue between Fifty-Fifth and Fifty-Sixth. So we went out of my apartment. We turned immediately left on Fifty-Fifth, hit Broadway in half a block, started to walk down Broadway, and in two blocks, I was passed out on the hood of a cab. So I, so Quaaludes were not my drug.

• 18:19Speaker 03

  Yeah, I would walk up a flight of stairs and then wake up with bruises everywhere from the Quaaludes.

• 18:25Bill Maher?

  So you're not married?

• 18:26Speaker 03

  No.

• 18:27Bill Maher?

  Divorced?

• 18:28Speaker 03

  No.

• 18:29Bill Maher?

  Not divorced?

• 18:30Speaker 03

  Never. No, no marriage, no divorce, none of them. Bastard children only.

• 18:35Bill Maher?

  Oh, you have bastard children. Oh, that's cool. I like bastards.

• 18:38Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 18:39Bill Maher?

  A lot of great people have been bastards. Alexander Hamilton.

• 18:43Speaker 03

  It's right.

• 18:43Bill Maher?

  What? Oh, yes. Oh, I could list you bastards.

• 18:46Speaker 03

  My kids will sing that whole fucking musical to me.

• 18:49Bill Maher?

  I mean bastard is one of those words like spinster. It just doesn't really exist anymore because nobody cares. You know, you know, spinster?

• 18:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 18:59Bill Maher?

  You know, spin, what's a spinster?

• 19:02Speaker 03

  I mean, so, you know, it's a cat lady, maybe.

• 19:05Bill Maher?

  Yeah.

• 19:05Speaker 03

  Am I allowed to say that? Oh, fuck, I'm gonna get even more canceled now.

• 19:09Bill Maher?

  It's, it's, it's a lady who, in the days when a woman either lived with her father, her parents, her family, or the hu, or the, the person she married. There was no in-between. There was no that girl getting an apartment in the city in-between living with the family.

• 19:26Speaker 03

  We took care of a lot of, my aunts were all spinsters. They, they never even, they'd never even been with a man, and some of them lived with us.

• 19:32Bill Maher?

  By choice?

• 19:34Speaker 03

  I, I don't even know. I mean, those old Italian neighborhoods.

• 19:36Bill Maher?

  Why were they so unpopular?

• 19:37Speaker 03

  Oh, my poor Aunt Lena.

• 19:39Bill Maher?

  Well, why was she unpopular like that with the?

• 19:41Speaker 03

  I don't know. I think she was tending to all the other women in her family. Italians are like that. And you also can't sleep with someone when you're an Italian young lady or you're a friggin' puttana.

• 19:56Bill Maher?

  What's that? That's a whore?

• 19:58Speaker 03

  Yeah, puttana, puttana. Or in Spanish, puta.

• 20:03Bill Maher?

  It's a good name.

• 20:04Speaker 03

  Puta.

• 20:05Bill Maher?

  For like a character.

• 20:06Speaker 03

  Putana.

• 20:07Bill Maher?

  Putana. I'm gonna use that. Oh, I came up with a new fake name for checking into a hotel.

• 20:17Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 20:18Bill Maher?

  Yersinia pestis. Do you know what that is?

• 20:21Speaker 03

  Say it again.

• 20:22Bill Maher?

  Yersinia pestis.

• 20:25Speaker 03

  Yersinia pestis?

• 20:26Bill Maher?

  Yes. It's the, it mean, it's the, it's the bacteria that causes plague. It's the yersinia pestis. But people are not gonna know that.

• 20:36Speaker 03

  No.

• 20:36Bill Maher?

  So I figure.

• 20:37Speaker 03

  I don't know that.

• 20:38Bill Maher?

  Right. No, I'm saying it's a good, but yersinia, it sounds like a person's name. And pestis, you know, you could be Hungarian, you could be anything. So I can't wait to check in under the name Yersinia pestis.

• 20:51Speaker 03

  Amazing.

• 20:52Bill Maher?

  Mr. Pestis, call me Yersinia.

• 20:55Speaker 03

  You're gonna be real stoned, man. I think I need to get stoned for Yersinia pestis. No, no, I can't. I haven't smoked pot since I was thirty, thirty-seven?

• 21:09Bill Maher?

  Why?

• 21:10Speaker 03

  I was a massive pot smoker my whole life, like huge, rolling joints while I'm driving.

• 21:16Bill Maher?

  What tragic thing stuffs?

• 21:18Speaker 03

  Driving with my knees, like I was that person.

• 21:20Bill Maher?

  Driving with your knees?

• 21:21Speaker 03

  Driving with my knees while I'm rolling a joint, you know, on a dirt road. Like on a, like on a quiet road, maybe, in the Hamptons, okay?

• 21:29Bill Maher?

  I love you.

• 21:29Speaker 03

  I grew up out, in the Hamptons, on a quiet road, rolling my joints in my Camaro. I don't drive, I don't smoke weed anymore, I don't do any of these things anymore.

• 21:39Bill Maher?

  The little pamphlet from the DMV that you get, that's what it says. It says, if you wanna roll a joint while you're driving between your knees, just make sure it's on a lonely road. A very lonely road, like your aunt's, a road that was just on.

• 21:58Speaker 03

  Alina's road.

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• 22:58Bill Maher?

  Is she still with us?

• 22:59Speaker 03

  No, she ended up going blind and... But we took care of her up until the end, my mom.

• 23:04Bill Maher?

  Well, it's probably not healthy never to get laid.

• 23:10Speaker 03

  I mean...

• 23:10Bill Maher?

  Right?

• 23:11Speaker 03

  I mean, I think that was the case, I don't know.

• 23:13Bill Maher?

  Did she die young?

• 23:14Speaker 03

  No, 97.

• 23:16Bill Maher?

  97?

• 23:17Speaker 03

  Everyone in my house.

• 23:18Bill Maher?

  Well, there goes that theory.

• 23:19Speaker 03

  Everyone.

• 23:19Bill Maher?

  Maybe fucking takes it out of you. It probably does.

• 23:23Speaker 03

  I mean, I want to live till 97. I hope I get that.

• 23:25Bill Maher?

  Yeah.

• 23:26Speaker 03

  Maybe I stopped getting it right.

• 23:27Bill Maher?

  But maybe if you're chaste like that, pure, well, first of all, you probably have never had a... You've definitely never had an STD.

• 23:37Speaker 03

  Oh, the old lady?

• 23:38Bill Maher?

  Yeah. Let alone your sinneia pestis.

• 23:41Speaker 03

  I mean...

• 23:42Bill Maher?

  Because that's going around. But, I don't know. I mean, every time you get anything, it compromises your health to a degree, even an STD. Have you ever had an STD?

• 23:53Speaker 03

  No, but I...

• 23:54Bill Maher?

  Never?

• 23:55Speaker 03

  I get the... I used to smoke so much fucking pot that when I would do bong hits, we were the bong hit maniacs at NYU.

• 24:05Speaker 03

  I had fever sores going around in a circle around my face.

• 24:09Bill Maher?

  From the bongs?

• 24:10Speaker 03

  From the bongs. Disgusting.

• 24:13Bill Maher?

  You mean just because there was bacteria on the bongs?

• 24:15Speaker 03

  I don't know, man.

• 24:18Speaker 03

  It was...

• 24:19Bill Maher?

  It's just gross.

• 24:19Speaker 03

  Very vile. But we did, and a lot of, and I was like, everyone's gonna catch the fucking ring around the mouth now.

• 24:25Bill Maher?

  That's, uh, but it went away when you stopped doing bong heads?

• 24:29Speaker 03

  Yes. Well, the ring. But every now and then I'll get a, like a fever blister on my mouth if I'm in the sun too long or if I'm too stressed out.

• 24:38Bill Maher?

  Right. I mean, everything is living inside you, everything bad you ever had, and your immune system keeps it in check.

• 24:45Speaker 03

  We're gonna live forever, man.

• 24:46Bill Maher?

  We are not, but, uh...

• 24:48Speaker 03

  Ninety-seven.

• 24:49Bill Maher?

  But I did have Andrew Huberman on my show Friday night, and he, I mean, nobody is more respected these days, certainly in the podcast world for the health and wellness thing, yeah. And he said to me in overtime something about like, because I said, "Well, I'm gonna be seventy my next birthday," and he's like, "Well..."

• 25:12Speaker 03

  I thought we were the same age.

• 25:15Bill Maher?

  Thought I was fifty.

• 25:16Speaker 03

  Oh, you look better than me then.

• 25:17Bill Maher?

  Oh, thanks. Well, I don't know. But, um, yeah, I mean, I take care of myself. But he said, you know, "You could live to one hundred and twenty," and of course, there are cases of people living to one twenty. It's rare, but obviously it can be done. And I thought, well...

• 25:32Speaker 03

  Do you want to?

• 25:33Bill Maher?

  Yeah. Oh, fuck, yeah.

• 25:34Speaker 03

  I want to. You do.

• 25:35Bill Maher?

  Well, first of all, if I'm, if I really could live to one hundred and twenty, that's fifty years for AI to have figured out how to live for, I mean, certainly before fifty years, AI's gonna have this figured out. They might do it next year.

• 25:47Speaker 03

  You mean for someone's health?

• 25:49Bill Maher?

  For just to, just to...

• 25:50Speaker 03

  Preserving. They don't wanna preserve people. They wanna fucking get rid of us, man.

• 25:54Bill Maher?

  That's true, too.

• 25:55Speaker 03

  So there's that.

• 25:56Bill Maher?

  But, I don't know. AI, I feel like, as long as you don't insult it, I feel like it's keeping tabs.

• 26:06Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 26:06Bill Maher?

  And we're gonna get to, "I can't do that, Hal."

• 26:09Speaker 03

  My kid is at home right now making T-shirt art for us because she refused. I was putting some, I was putting an Adriana image from The Sopranos through an AI. Generator and she started crying. I'm like, why? Like, whatever, it's just this T-shirt that we're gonna make. And she is so obsessed with the idea of AI ruining the world. I mean, I haven't fully gotten as deep into it as I probably will sooner or later.

• 26:42Bill Maher?

  She's not wrong.

• 26:43Speaker 03

  But she's home furious. She has 100 things to do, but she is drawing my art for the T-shirt herself. Because she's an insane artist.

• 26:52Bill Maher?

  She's not wrong.

• 26:52Speaker 03

  I know.

• 26:53Bill Maher?

  She's smart.

• 26:54Speaker 03

  I know.

• 26:54Bill Maher?

  I mean, we don't know which way it's gonna go. And look, if it does keep people alive forever, and when I say people, I mean me. Look, almost whatever else it does, I'm gonna owe it. But there is every chance it's gonna ruin the world in so many different ways, including it could be something as simple as, because it's always gonna be based on who programmed it.

• 27:22Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 27:22Bill Maher?

  I mean, it's only programmed by humans who are flawed with their biases. And so, like, I just don't think it can see the full picture sometimes. And we've seen that already, and that's dangerous. And it's also just gonna take everybody's job.

• 27:37Speaker 03

  I know.

• 27:37Bill Maher?

  There's gonna be nothing it can't do. So we're just gonna be useless.

• 27:42Speaker 03

  There were the three pillars of, I can't remember the third. I think it was.

• 27:46Bill Maher?

  Of what?

• 27:47Speaker 03

  Empathy and creativity. I mean, those are the things that will keep us somewhat in the game. But that's a very select few, not empathy, but creativity, not everybody. But then I think about, were we always meant not to be working as hard as everybody's continuously working in this rat race? What if everybody is taken out of the rat race? And now we have to honor the earth and be with each other and all of the, because there's nothing left. If AI is doing all the tech shit, then what do we do? Do we communicate again?

• 28:22Bill Maher?

  That's a very good point. My friend Harvey Levin makes the same point when we talk about this. He says, like, where's it written that we all have to work? And we just got used to that idea. But the question, of course, then becomes, and do what? And how get money to eat? You know, like.

• 28:41Speaker 03

  I know.

• 28:41Bill Maher?

  I get that idea that, oh, it is kind of.

• 28:44Speaker 03

  Communism. Then there we are. We'll give you this amount of money to just let the computers run the show.

• 28:52Bill Maher?

  But enough about the mayor of New York.

• 28:55Speaker 03

  Oh, oh, ow.

• 28:56Bill Maher?

  Mandami, Mandani.

• 28:59Speaker 03

  Did it happen? I'm out. I have been.

• 29:02Bill Maher?

  Yeah, you are.

• 29:03Speaker 03

  I have been completely removed from it all. I was so deep in it and I said, fuck this, I can't.

• 29:11Bill Maher?

  Oh, you were deep in it?

• 29:12Speaker 03

  I was deep in all of the politics of everything.

• 29:14Bill Maher?

  From when to when?

• 29:17Speaker 03

  I guess I would say, um, COVID.

• 29:22Speaker 03

  I kind of feel like I had no choice but to pay attention.

• 29:25Bill Maher?

  You and I both got a lot of shit for what we said about COVID. And we're not exactly on, I don't know, I don't know, I'm not exactly sure where you are. I mean, I get called an anti-vaxxer. It's like I get called a conservative. But it's a bullshit term from people who are way over on the other side, who see someone who's just sensible and have to make them the enemy. I'm a skeptic of vaccines, like I'm a skeptic of everything medical. One thing I love that Huberman said, and I had no idea where he was going to be on this, but it's been like behind a lot of the arguments I have with mainstream medicine people, is I said, um, if we knew everything we could possibly know about medicine and how the body works,

• 30:11Bill Maher?

  like that we're at 100, 100% knowledge, where are we actually? Like what percentage of what we could know if we knew everything? And I said, I think most people, because we know so much more than we used to or 100 years ago, I think we know, we got like a 90%. And I think it's like 20. And he said, I think he said 10 or something.

• 30:36Speaker 03

  What we know.

• 30:36Bill Maher?

  Yes. He said exactly what I've always said. We're at the infancy of understanding how the body works. Yes, we know a lot more than we used to. But, you know, until we'd like cure cancer, we're not, we're really just.

• 30:49Speaker 03

  I mean, who's gonna do that?

• 30:51Bill Maher?

  Well, they're going to.

• 30:52Speaker 03

  That's a billion-dollar industry.

• 30:54Bill Maher?

  Oh, you think that's why?

• 30:56Speaker 03

  I mean. I think that there are.

• 30:58Bill Maher?

  I mean, you're not alone in thinking.

• 30:59Speaker 03

  Maybe we don't cause it as much as we're causing it on top of things. I mean, it's just a.

• 31:05Bill Maher?

  We definitely cause it. I mean, America causes cancer. That's it. Everything we do, everything we breathe, everything we eat, stress. You know, we're just, we're just, uh, look, I love this country and I love the way we are and I don't give a fuck who knows it. And, uh, yes, we are arrogant and we are this and that, but we're, you know, I would take that over what other countries are. We're also rich. No one here is taking a chicken on a bus. You know, I mean, give me a fucking break. I mean, no one, I'm not, I'm definitely, I'm sold on this country. But it does cause can, it does give you cancer.

• 31:40Speaker 03

  I mean, everywhere, and your constitution, everybody's different. Everyone's fucking different.

• 31:44Bill Maher?

  Polar bears are contaminated. That, that's how much the pollution is everywhere.

• 31:48Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 31:48Bill Maher?

  Okay. But as far as the conspiracy theory that they could cure it, but there's too much money in it, I certainly have heard that. I'm willing to listen. There's no real evidence and there's so much money in also curing it. And I just don't think you can keep a secret like that. And I do think people are evil, but I just, it's too big a one to pull off. So I'm not on that page. I think they have methods of dealing with cancer better than they used to, but they haven't cured it.

• 32:18Speaker 03

  No.

• 32:19Bill Maher?

  They definitely haven't cured it. But like, if you get certain types versus like 30 years ago when my father got it, way better. Lung cancer.

• 32:29Speaker 03

  My dad too.

• 32:30Bill Maher?

  And I know people now who've, have gotten lung cancer and they're doing fine. That may not last forever, but it's not like what it was when my father got it. That's still not curing it. I do think if they had it, they'd tell us. I just don't think you can keep it.

• 32:47Speaker 03

  But they also just don't want us to play around with other things that.

• 32:51Bill Maher?

  Correct.

• 32:51Speaker 03

  Complement.

• 32:52Bill Maher?

  That's true too.

• 32:53Speaker 03

  Say their medicines like chemo and amino.

• 32:55Bill Maher?

  Right. No, no. And that's one reason why, you know, Bobby Kennedy sat there and, I mean, I like Bobby. I don't agree with him on everything and I think he, you know, goes too far in a lot of things. But that basic idea that he has and had from the time he was a environmental lawyer.

• 33:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 33:14Bill Maher?

  Which is that we talk about all these things that are hurting us and killing us and some of those things are true, but. The biggest one is this, the environment. And I think that's true. I mean, we live in L.A. We're breathing the shit fucking plastic-filled air from the fire in January.

• 33:34Speaker 03

  Oh, I know. Now, don't get me started on that topic. I'll, we'll get canceled all over again. You may not even be able to go back to HBO. I'm just kidding. If I'm talking, we'll edit the whole show into pieces.

• 33:46Bill Maher?

  Why? What do you think you believe that's so controversial?

• 33:48Speaker 03

  Well, I just, this whole thing with the pollution and the... Look, I feel like a crazy person that I even talk about this stuff because I am not a scientist. I'm not a politician. I don't really have the kind of knowledge to be able to lay pipe down on a lot of issues. But there are just things that eat away at me. And every time that happens, I've been right about it. And one of the things that have been driving me crazy, and this is what our whole ultra-free, my T-shirt company, is about what they've been spraying lately in the sky. Not lately, it's been going on for many, many years.

• 34:29Bill Maher?

  Spraying? You're talking about chemtrails?

• 34:32Speaker 03

  Well, we try not to call them chemtrails. We could call them cunt trails. We'll call them cunt trails. But it's not, it's, um, there's no way to dispute what's happening anymore.

• 34:44Bill Maher?

  Right, they're coming out of the ass of a plane, you're saying?

• 34:48Speaker 03

  I, you know, I don't know exactly how... There are a lot of planes that are outfitted with all this stuff. And then there are planes that I've, I've heard even Kennedy say, you know, they're coming from, there's a, something mixed into the... I don't know about that. I don't really think that that's the way it's happening. But it's happening. And they're trying to normalize it now. So now, anybody that's been calling it conspiracy, because a lot of people have. This whole thing with AI and technology and all of this, there's no way to stop the inflow of information coming in. They can try to censor.

• 35:21Bill Maher?

  Right, I gotta know where the spraying is coming from.

• 35:25Speaker 03

  Okay, I'll back up.

• 35:26Bill Maher?

  And to what purpose? What's in this, what are they spraying us with?

• 35:30Speaker 03

  Because of...

• 35:31Bill Maher?

  Jing?

• 35:32Speaker 03

  It's with Jing. It's heavy metals. There's a ton of heavy metals.

• 35:36Bill Maher?

  But they're purposely giving us that?

• 35:38Speaker 03

  Well, it's not that they're giving it to us, even though that's probably, you know, a, oh, well, agenda. Like, oh, well, this'll kill two birds with one stone. But it's more about just dimming the sun. Because of the climate change catastrophe and all of this stuff. And there are climate deniers, climate change deniers and other, everybody, it's politicized. It shouldn't be politicized.

• 35:59Bill Maher?

  The spraying is to dim the sun?

• 36:02Speaker 03

  The spraying is to dim the sun.

• 36:04Bill Maher?

  Because otherwise, the sun would be too bright now?

• 36:08Speaker 03

  Well, I guess this has been going on since the dawn of time, not the dawn of time, no. But what happened like in 500 AD, maybe it was? All these volcanoes erupted at the same time.

• 36:23Bill Maher?

  That's happened.

• 36:24Speaker 03

  And you get, it cools the earth.

• 36:25Bill Maher?

  Yes.

• 36:26Speaker 03

  And then it blocks the sun, it cools the earth. So these scientists know that this is a way in which to mitigate the sun heating up the earth too much. And then there was the whole ozone.

• 36:37Bill Maher?

  But it's the opposite of what happens when the volcanoes go off. They block the sun.

• 36:42Speaker 03

  They want to because of, because of everything warming too much.

• 36:47Bill Maher?

  No, I mean, the volcanoes don't want anything, they just want to go off. They're like, they're like your aunt who hasn't been laid in 90 years. They are just waiting to let it explode, and they do sometimes. I don't know if this happened in 500 AD, it happened many, many thousand years ago. I'm not sure, that's a good question, I'll have to relook at that.

• 37:08Speaker 03

  Well, they imitate it, they're trying to imitate that.

• 37:11Bill Maher?

  Where like volcanoes go off, it, I mean, it has happened in like fairly recent, when I say fairly recent, like a few thousand years, it did happen, oh, I think it was the 14th century, maybe.

• 37:25Bill Maher?

  Like the early, the 14th century, the 1300s.

• 37:27Speaker 03

  Sixth century.

• 37:29Bill Maher?

  Maybe, maybe that, maybe.

• 37:30Speaker 03

  There were like three big ones and it caused a big flash freeze, I think of a lot of, there were no crops, it was, it was, you know, catastrophic.

• 37:40Bill Maher?

  The 1300s, which maybe is why that number is like an unlucky number, were like the worst we've ever had because you've had the bubonic plague, Yersinia pestis. Right here.

• 37:54Bill Maher?

  But even before that, Europe was like, they had these horrible rains that killed all the crops for like 10 years. And I think maybe this was another one of those volcano things. But when the volcanoes go off, they block the sun. You wouldn't need something to block more sun. You want to open it up. So I don't know what the spraying is about.

• 38:14Speaker 03

  If the earth is, if the ozone is damaged from pollution and all of this stuff.

• 38:19Bill Maher?

  We actually healed that.

• 38:20Speaker 03

  With the Montreal Protocol. But then the spraying made it worse. All of the continuous dropping of heavy metals into the air made it worse.

• 38:32Bill Maher?

  But the dropping of heavy metals, is that a side effect of something else that we're doing? Like it's just in the effluvium of the airplane? Which, you know, okay, we still want to fly, so we're going to put up with that. Or is it, are you saying it's deliberate?

• 38:49Speaker 03

  I think that whatever they're putting in there, which has been tested repeatedly. I mean, the people that fly the planes are, would be pilots in the Navy. I mean, in the Air Force.

• 39:03Bill Maher?

  Oh, this is from military planes?

• 39:05Speaker 03

  This is probably a military operation, yeah.

• 39:08Bill Maher?

  Where are you getting this? This is nuts.

• 39:10Speaker 03

  I know.

• 39:11Bill Maher?

  It's just nuts. Why do you go there?

• 39:13Speaker 03

  Because I definitely feel the effects of it on days that they spray. And you can see it in the sky. I mean, the truth is written in the motherfucking sky.

• 39:26Bill Maher?

  So you feel what? You feel worse, headaches or something?

• 39:29Speaker 03

  If they're dropping that shit from the plane.

• 39:31Bill Maher?

  But what do you see? Because I don't, I'm not, maybe I'm not looking.

• 39:33Speaker 03

  Oh, you don't see it, okay, so.

• 39:35Bill Maher?

  When can I, when should I go out and look? And where? Where am I looking? I'll look.

• 39:40Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 39:41Bill Maher?

  I'll give you a benefit of the doubt. Where am I looking?

• 39:42Speaker 03

  I'll tell you what, right before those Palisades fires, I knew that everything was going to go up in fucking flames.

• 39:48Bill Maher?

  Well, that's, but that has nothing to do with.

• 39:51Speaker 03

  They were spraying incessantly. It was unbelievable. They crisscross nonstop. It's a pattern. It's not, it's not a regular.

• 40:00Bill Maher?

  This is before the fires started?

• 40:01Speaker 03

  Right before the fires. It's a desiccant. So even if everything's green outside, everything is now going to be coated in this layer of super combustible.

• 40:11Bill Maher?

  But the winds were 100 miles an hour. And they did like eight other fucking stupid things wrong. And they had some incompetent people running things. Trust me, I've got my share of conservative backlash talking about the fires because it wasn't all because it didn't didn't happen because of wokeness. But wokeness didn't help.

• 40:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 40:35Bill Maher?

  So I'm not saying that's what caused it. It was a huge amount of wind. We get this out here. That that's just the facts. But of course, they should have done many things to mitigate that. They know those winds are coming. They should have. I mean, your boy was not completely wrong when he said, do more raking.

• 40:58Speaker 03

  My boy.

• 40:59Bill Maher?

  Maybe you should rake.

• 41:00Speaker 03

  He's not my boy.

• 41:01Bill Maher?

  We, okay.

• 41:02Speaker 03

  I don't agree with everything there either. And that and I I've I've always been super far to the left, so this was just about.

• 41:09Bill Maher?

  Far to the left.

• 41:10Speaker 03

  Me, yeah. Oh, my God.

• 41:12Bill Maher?

  So how come you have this reputation as someone who we

• 41:15Speaker 03

  No.

• 41:16Bill Maher?

  they don't want to talk to you because you're so on the right because of the vaccine.

• 41:19Speaker 03

  I'm not on any of it. I don't fucking buy into it.

• 41:22Bill Maher?

  Well, chemtrails, whatever you want to call it, spraying, that is a right wing conspiracy.

• 41:27Speaker 03

  But it wasn't. Geoengineering was always something that people on the left, the hippies, the the people that cared about health and all this shit.

• 41:34Bill Maher?

  Yeah, that's true, too.

• 41:35Speaker 03

  They were the ones that cared about the environment.

• 41:37Bill Maher?

  No, that's that's an interesting point because there's a.

• 41:40Speaker 03

  Anti-vaxing was a thing of the left.

• 41:42Bill Maher?

  And so and still is. That's what the one of the interesting things about Bobby Kennedy's coalition because it does cross over. I mean, this is Kennedy, the ultimate name in Democrats, who's now part of a Republican administration. And most of his voters, when he was running, were Republicans. Because they but yes, there are these Maher Moms. You know, these are the ladies in the Lululemons who do not want any sort of.

• 42:12Speaker 03

  They shouldn't wear the Lululemons. It's all toxic fucking material.

• 42:16Bill Maher?

  Really? A Lulule.

• 42:17Speaker 03

  That's what I heard. I don't I don't wear that shit, so I don't know.

• 42:20Bill Maher?

  Lululemons, did they get sprayed?

• 42:22Speaker 03

  No, they're supposedly all the stuff they make their stuff. I don't fucking know.

• 42:26Bill Maher?

  If I can't trust Lululemon not to put.

• 42:29Speaker 03

  Don't wear your Lululemon yoga pants.

• 42:31Bill Maher?

  Poison in my cooch, then what has this country coming coming to? I things are so terrible.

• 42:37Speaker 03

  It really is.

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• 44:06Speaker 03

  But the geoengineering thing was always a super liberal issue.

• 44:10Bill Maher?

  Well, you're right. It is funny the way people...

• 44:12Speaker 03

  It's been a big switcheroo. Everybody's... It's inverted politics. But it's like mind control.

• 44:18Bill Maher?

  There's lots of inverted politics. I don't know about that, but your point about inverted politics, this goes on all the time. I mean, I've talked about this a lot. When I started doing this back in the days we were just talking about, the people who were the no laugh, nothing's funny, stick up their ass people were the conservatives, and now it's the woke.

• 44:41Speaker 03

  I know.

• 44:41Bill Maher?

  They're the ones who are no fun, buzzkills, scolds, hypocrites about all this kind of shit.

• 44:49Speaker 03

  Is the woke thing still even happening?

• 44:51Bill Maher?

  Yes.

• 44:51Speaker 03

  It is? Because I haven't been paying attention.

• 44:53Bill Maher?

  Here's how you know it's happening? Because they made Cracker Barrel.

• 44:58Speaker 03

  Oh, I heard about this.

• 44:59Bill Maher?

  And Cracker Barrel today...

• 45:00Speaker 03

  What was the new logo they tried to have?

• 45:03Bill Maher?

  Well, they... Just the words. They got rid of the barrel and the cracker. Okay.

• 45:09Speaker 03

  So it's barrel?

• 45:10Bill Maher?

  No, no, they just got, no, there was a picture of a guy and a cracker standing by the, I mean, a picture of a barrel and a cracker standing by the barrel. Now they just went to the words cracker barrel. They said, no, we hear you, we're going back and we're showing the cracker.

• 45:27Speaker 03

  What's the fucking cracker? Like an actual cracker?

• 45:30Bill Maher?

  No, a guy who's a cracker.

• 45:31Speaker 03

  A guy who's a cracker?

• 45:32Bill Maher?

  Yeah, a fucking.

• 45:33Speaker 03

  A redneck?

• 45:34Bill Maher?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 45:35Speaker 03

  A cracker ass cracker.

• 45:37Bill Maher?

  Yeah, it's called cracker barrel, okay?

• 45:40Speaker 03

  Okay, I didn't know that it meant that the guy, that the person was a, was a cra- or just a cracker. Like, I didn't know that it was that.

• 45:48Bill Maher?

  Yeah, that's what cracker barrel is.

• 45:50Speaker 03

  God, it's so stupid.

• 45:51Bill Maher?

  It's a place where cracker, crackers go. And I, I've been, never been there, but I assume they sit on a barrel and have dinner. I assume that.

• 45:59Speaker 03

  I'm dying, I've been to many of them.

• 46:01Bill Maher?

  Oh, really?

• 46:02Speaker 03

  Oh, my god.

• 46:03Bill Maher?

  Where are cracker, I've never even seen one.

• 46:05Speaker 03

  Cause I would drive cross-country so much.

• 46:07Bill Maher?

  Oh, you must, because I, I was on the road for forty years.

• 46:11Speaker 03

  They never took you there, cause you look like a New York intellect.

• 46:16Bill Maher?

  No, but I would have seen it, driving from the airport to the hotel to the gig.

• 46:21Speaker 03

  You gotta look for your cracker barrel.

• 46:22Bill Maher?

  Maybe, I must have seen them, I just don't remember. I remember other like rednecky things that you only see.

• 46:28Speaker 03

  Waffle House.

• 46:28Bill Maher?

  Trip, uh, Circle K, things that you like never see.

• 46:33Speaker 03

  What Burger.

• 46:34Bill Maher?

  What?

• 46:34Speaker 03

  Waffle House is a big one.

• 46:36Bill Maher?

  Waffle House, I mean Denny's is everywhere, but I would say it's more in Marietta, Georgia.

• 46:45Bill Maher?

  You know, certainly every place has a Cheesecake Factory.

• 46:50Speaker 03

  That's.

• 46:51Bill Maher?

  What?

• 46:51Speaker 03

  That's not crackers.

• 46:53Bill Maher?

  No, no, I'm just saying, there are some things you see.

• 46:55Speaker 03

  Crackery, now that I know what the fucking cracker barrels are about. That's for Italians.

• 47:03Speaker 03

  That's for redneck, rednecks that want Italians.

• 47:06Bill Maher?

  How would you rate, is that, is that?

• 47:08Speaker 03

  I've never been.

• 47:09Bill Maher?

  Because it's not authentic enough for you, you'd just be like.

• 47:12Speaker 03

  I probably would not, no, I won't like it. Listen, I just went to Italy and I was not thrilled with the food.

• 47:19Bill Maher?

  Are they spraying over there, or is it just America?

• 47:21Speaker 03

  That's the thing, I was trying to ask this guy who was like the expert on it, and anybody that wants to.

• 47:26Bill Maher?

  The expert?

• 47:26Speaker 03

  Well, there's a movie called The Dimming and you, you'll probably be interested to understand what some of it's about.

• 47:31Bill Maher?

  A documentary?

• 47:32Speaker 03

  Documentary called The Dimming, and it's on GeoEngineeringWatch.org.

• 47:38Speaker 03

  And the guy that's been doing all the research is an environmentalist. And he came upon it because he was trying to understand why his solar panels weren't working. And they weren't working because the sunlight at certain times is being completely blocked. But then beyond that, it's killing all, it's killing a lot of stuff.

• 47:58Bill Maher?

  So how-

• 47:58Speaker 03

  There's no bees here. We have no bees in California right now.

• 48:01Bill Maher?

  I got two nests right back there.

• 48:03Speaker 03

  You do?

• 48:03Bill Maher?

  Yes.

• 48:03Speaker 03

  Oh, you better, don't kill them.

• 48:05Bill Maher?

  Oh, I don't.

• 48:06Speaker 03

  Don't kill them.

• 48:07Bill Maher?

  I'm totally on the bee page.

• 48:08Speaker 03

  Oh, you are? Okay, because that's a big part of it. They can't handle what is coming down from above.

• 48:14Bill Maher?

  Oh, I could not be more on the bee page. But I'm not sure it's from the spraying, but it is definitely from all the kind of environmental damage we do. I mean, they're sensitive creatures and I very often see one walking. And when I do, I almost want to cry. Because bees are not supposed, if the bee is walking-

• 48:33Speaker 03

  I like, that's really cute, Belle.

• 48:35Bill Maher?

  Why?

• 48:36Speaker 03

  I don't know, I like that you're talking about walking.

• 48:38Bill Maher?

  No, really, a bee should never be walking. I just want to, I don't know whether to put him out of his misery and just squash him, or just-

• 48:47Speaker 03

  You should smoke some weed, sit down and talk to him.

• 48:49Bill Maher?

  I was gonna do that.

• 48:51Speaker 03

  You fucking sit there and talk to him about-

• 48:53Bill Maher?

  Bro, I feel, I feel your pain, I do. I mean, it's just so wrong what we're doing and I feel terrible about it. I mean, I didn't personally do it, but you know, I'm sure I'm not helping as much as I could. And I, you know, I used to take a private plane everywhere. I feel terrible. But, you know, life goes on. But you know, this is probably apocryphal, but they said, it is, it was, it's out there, I don't know if it really happened, that Einstein said, when the bees die, humans have four more years left. Because the bees pollinate the food.

• 49:23Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 49:24Bill Maher?

  You know, we need, but, look, they're not all-

• 49:26Speaker 03

  There's 70% down here.

• 49:28Bill Maher?

  They're not all gone. I mean, I was sitting today because, I mean, I don't know how much sun we're blocking, but trust me, at 1 o'clock today, we weren't blocking much of it.

• 49:39Speaker 03

  No, today they didn't spray.

• 49:41Bill Maher?

  Oh, good, I got a non-spray day. Yeah, I was out there and I'm sitting like, and like, just like, just where that pole is, like, very close, there's a bush. And I could just sit there, watch all day, and it's just filled with bees. Going from flower, you know, one to, and I'm like, I watched it for like a half hour. And I'm like, guys, you must have drained everything you could from this bush. I mean, you're all, you've been at it for so long and you, you keep going. It looks like you're going in the same one and there's a thousand of you. And then hummingbirds showed up and they wanted a piece of the action.

• 50:18Speaker 03

  You were like Snow fucking White, Phil.

• 50:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, buddy.

• 50:26Bill Maher?

  That is exactly, that is exactly who I am.

• 50:30Speaker 03

  What you're fucking smoking and are we about to fucking start eating mushrooms right now?

• 50:35Bill Maher?

  This right here, I'm smoking this right here. This I grow right here.

• 50:38Speaker 03

  I miss smoking weed.

• 50:40Bill Maher?

  There are bees probably circling this right now outside.

• 50:44Speaker 03

  Nothing but my house, nothing.

• 50:46Bill Maher?

  What do you mean, nothing?

• 50:47Speaker 03

  No bees and they used to come sit with, I used to smoke a lot of cigarettes. And they would come sit with me while I smoked.

• 50:53Bill Maher?

  Well, you need plants that attract them, they'll come.

• 50:56Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's true.

• 50:58Bill Maher?

  You know, they're not.

• 50:59Speaker 03

  Everything's dying at Grey Gardens these days.

• 51:02Bill Maher?

  They're not gonna come for you.

• 51:03Speaker 03

  I mean, they used to come, they would, they would sit on me.

• 51:06Bill Maher?

  The bees?

• 51:07Speaker 03

  I'm fucking Snow White, too, I'm the Italian Snow White.

• 51:12Speaker 03

  I'm Snow Blanco.

• 51:14Bill Maher?

  I could see, I could see selling that as a, as a Netflix series or something. It'd actually be good, that'd actually, not a bad idea. An Italian in a kind of a fairy tale role, because.

• 51:27Speaker 03

  You'd done that?

• 51:28Bill Maher?

  I don't think so.

• 51:29Speaker 03

  Pinocchio.

• 51:33Bill Maher?

  Yes, but Snow Blanco is kinda, kinda cool.

• 51:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, she'll be doing coke and fucking putting, cocking her gun every five seconds. That'll, that's our Snow Blanco.

• 51:45Bill Maher?

  Why are you feeding into those stereotypes about Italians being violent?

• 51:51Speaker 03

  Listen, part of the reason why I don't care about not acting anymore is, once I started getting cast as sort of normal people, I couldn't have been more fucking bored. I didn't want to be stereotyped when I was young, but now I'm like, if you're not gonna stereotype me, then maybe.

• 52:06Bill Maher?

  I think you do care.

• 52:09Speaker 03

  It's more fun.

• 52:10Bill Maher?

  I think you do care. And you should care. And you are not wrong to be bitter about what happened to you. It is just wrong to do this.

• 52:23Bill Maher?

  What do they call it in the church? Excommunicating of people who, yes, I don't agree with you about the spraying. That doesn't mean I don't like you.

• 52:33Speaker 03

  You will, though. You will when you watch the dimming.

• 52:37Bill Maher?

  It doesn't mean I don't like you. I can't work with you. I, I, it's just that this exclusionary attitude is just the most obnoxious thing about the left. And I've said this.

• 52:50Speaker 03

  With their inclusivity, with all their, there's gonna be major psychological papers written about this time. You know that.

• 52:55Bill Maher?

  Oh, there already are being written.

• 52:58Speaker 03

  It's gonna be wild, looking back on it.

• 53:01Bill Maher?

  Especially the COVID stuff.

• 53:03Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:03Bill Maher?

  I mean, you know, not that they didn't already hate me, the stupid, the stupid woke by then, but that didn't help. And of course, now, when we look back on it, there's a, just a giant book that came out that was, is saying everything I was saying at the time. That, first of all, we should never have gotten rid of natural immunity, as we always thought that was the best, but they went right past that to, no, everybody has to get vaccinated as much as we can get in you. Now, that does look corrupt to me. But also, just the collateral damage.

• 53:41Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:42Bill Maher?

  Was so much worse than the thing itself. And it wasn't, there were, I mean, masking two-year-olds who never were gonna get sick from this, certainly not die from this. They did a lot of stupid shit that I was calling out at the time and made me a very bad person.

• 53:57Speaker 03

  You were a hero throughout this, I have to say, for, you know, especially working on a station that, you know, we all know all the big canopies over everything corporate-wise and stuff.

• 54:11Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 54:11Speaker 03

  And you talking about it the way you were, and every time it was coming out of your mouth, we were all like, oh, oh, shit, oh, my God.

• 54:21Bill Maher?

  Well, thank you, yeah.

• 54:22Speaker 03

  Go, go, go, cuz, cuz we're all Democrats in our minds. Even though I'm not a political, I never voted until I voted for, for Joe Biden. I never voted in my life. I never believed in the system. I mean, me and my ex had a whole music video and album. It was his album, but I was involved with him making a music video about mass vaccination back in 2010.

• 54:46Speaker 03

  And Stephen King narrates the album. And if he would have.

• 54:50Bill Maher?

  Stephen King?

• 54:51Speaker 03

  Stephen King narrated the album. He was a fan of my ex. And the whole album was about, you know, a new world order and the last night before martial law takes over. And he's the last DJ, DJing from a pirated radio station. And it's beautiful and it's amazing. The way he narrates the whole thing. Shooter wrote most of it. Shooter's my ex. But Stephen King is during the Bush administration. And we were so anti everything that was going on. And we believed in all the conspiracies that were. A lot of them turned out to fucking be true now. But fast forward from 2010 to COVID. And it was everything he wrote in this song, Shooter.

• 55:36Speaker 03

  And the music video is of my daughter waking up in her crib. And there's a TV screen over her and she's. And there's a clown saying, wake up, wake up. And now the TV has taken over parenting. And she's looking all over the house for her parents. And the TV's saying, we're gone. They're gone. Everybody's gone. And there's all these images of the parents getting escorted out of the house kind of stuff. And now she keeps trying to leave the house to go outdoors. And whenever she goes to leave, there's different TV in every room. And the TV's like, no, stay here. And then look what I can do. And it blows up a car and there's war. And she's driving her little airplane into her World Trade. And like, all of this crazy shit. Then she gets in the bathtub for bath time.

• 56:20Speaker 03

  The TV goes, it's bath time. And she goes by herself to the bath in this full bathtub. And the TV's falling into the tub with her. And it's just all this propaganda and information going at her. And she's like, losing it in the tub. And that was 2010. And the song is called The Summer of Rage. And he's saying in it, they're building mass graves. You and I, they'll vaccinate. And.

• 56:48Speaker 03

  It's fucking crazy.

• 56:50Bill Maher?

  But you would get some vaccination?

• 56:52Speaker 03

  My kids are totally vaccinated. They have, they're over vaccinated. This is what people don't know about me. They think I'm some crazy political freak.

• 56:59Bill Maher?

  This is why I really.

• 57:00Speaker 03

  I give a fuck about politics. I lived in a bubble, like.

• 57:03Bill Maher?

  But I, I, I hope you find a second wind to fight this. It just bugs me that people can do this. They can just look at somebody and go, "Okay, well, we agree on A, B, C, D, E, F, G, but then we got to H." And she didn't agree with us, or she believes this, and so you're gone. That's just, it's just so wrong. It's so un-American. It, it, it just, it's so.

• 57:30Speaker 03

  This is the way I saw it. I didn't think I had that much to lose. I was losing my home because I couldn't work and, and I took a forbearance. I never worked that much. I'm a single mom. I made sure that I only took jobs that were in California. I would not leave. So I wasn't, you know, people my, women my age are not, they're not just fucking throwing jobs at me either, you know? I also didn't want to work that much.

• 57:54Bill Maher?

  Okay. If you don't want to work, there's one thing.

• 57:56Speaker 03

  No, now, now, I actually kind of do because I'm sick of the political shit.

• 58:02Bill Maher?

  Okay.

• 58:03Speaker 03

  I'm over it. I'd rather just go be fake and do something fake for a minute.

• 58:06Bill Maher?

  On the work thing, I must tell you, as a show business manager wannabe, because I would be a very good manager. I always give people good advice here all the time. When you, when the rocket goes up as far as yours did, in other words, when you're like on a show like The Sopranos, not just a hit show, but an iconic show, like an Uber show. Yeah, but, but not long, not so long ago that the audience doesn't remember. HBO especially, especially HBO, has been great about, they're very, usually very loyal. To the people who have been on shows, they, you see them come up all the time on other shows.

• 58:52Speaker 03

  I said other bad things about them.

• 58:54Bill Maher?

  Okay, well, that may be a special case.

• 58:56Speaker 03

  About the Jim Gamble movie documentary.

• 58:58Bill Maher?

  Like, like, they, parts come along, for now, women in your age range. And if it's between you, who an audience remembers fondly from this other iconic thing, and like 12 other people who could do the job, yes, you see it all the time, you know?

• 59:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean, my fans do love me, I mean, I get that.

• 59:19Bill Maher?

  It's not like if there wasn't this political stone in their shoe, you wouldn't, if you wanted to. Like, you know, look at Winona Ryder, how she got a big hit show from...

• 59:31Speaker 03

  But she's not talking about all the crazy shit I'm talking about.

• 59:33Bill Maher?

  No, I know, but I'm just, I'm just saying, it's not like they don't want to hire people just because, you know, they were on this thing that was, that only adds to it, that you were on something big 20 years ago, so.

• 59:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 59:47Bill Maher?

  You know, but I, I hope you do find the second wind to do that, because, you know, I see Gina Carano, you know who that is?

• 59:55Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 59:56Bill Maher?

  You know, I mean, they, again, do we share politics? Not exactly. I don't have to, and they did the same thing to her.

• 1:00:05Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:00:05Bill Maher?

  You know, she said something that was slightly not the one true opinion, and she had to then march off the plank. And it's just like, fuck you, who the fu... And I forget how she fought back, but she just won some kind of big victory.

• 1:00:18Speaker 03

  Oh, good.

• 1:00:19Bill Maher?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:19Speaker 03

  Well, I wasn't working at the time, so it wasn't like, I mean, I was, I was guest starring on a show that I couldn't go back to, because I couldn't go back to Canada without a vaccine. Yeah, well, that's what it was, and I got offered a bunch of jobs during that time, little jobs that would have kept me afloat, but when I had to say no to everything.

• 1:00:35Bill Maher?

  So when you weren't making money, what did you do?

• 1:00:38Speaker 03

  I went into foreclosure. I was losing my fucking house. I mean, I, I was, for me, it was more like, I was petrified. I was petrified knowing what I knew sort of innately about the whole system and what was going on, what I suspected was happening out there. It felt like a really big fucking nefarious play for me from the very beginning. And I was like, wow, they managed to shut the whole fucking world down with this. This is not... This is, this is way more than what anybody is thinking it is. But I can't stop talking about the other-

• 1:01:21Bill Maher?

  But weren't you on OnlyFans? Didn't I read that?

• 1:01:23Speaker 03

  That was a, I mean, people say, you know, a lot of women-

• 1:01:25Bill Maher?

  To drive someone to that is just wrong. Unless you like it. Maybe you like it.

• 1:01:30Speaker 03

  Well, originally I was going there to do a podcast, talk about all the shit that I was discovering about what was going on. I didn't want to be censored. And I was already being censored on another podcast I had years before called Gangster Goddess. And I was like, I couldn't even say the word COVID because we were shooting it during COVID. We weren't allowed to even use the word, so I was like, I'm definitely not going fucking YouTube with this shit. So I'll do it on OnlyFans and I'll just talk to men all fucking day because the women lost it motherfucking money.

• 1:02:00Bill Maher?

  So that was what your OnlyFans channel was? You were just talking about-

• 1:02:03Speaker 03

  Originally. I set it up to do that. And then I put a picture up as a placeholder. And I fucking was able to save my house within hours.

• 1:02:13Bill Maher?

  Yeah, because it's, I mean-

• 1:02:15Speaker 03

  It went viral like because this old bitch from the-

• 1:02:19Bill Maher?

  I know OnlyFans like to, like describe themselves as a place where, you know, contributors or content providers-

• 1:02:27Speaker 03

  Con- tent providers.

• 1:02:29Bill Maher?

  Yes, I mean, they say-

• 1:02:30Speaker 03

  And get it right, Bill.

• 1:02:31Bill Maher?

  That they can, you know, put up anything and there is, you can go on OnlyFans and see stuff on poetry and cooking.

• 1:02:39Speaker 03

  Really?

• 1:02:40Bill Maher?

  But, yes, but mostly- No, no, I don't-

• 1:02:43Speaker 03

  Is there really some poetry on?

• 1:02:44Bill Maher?

  Well, yes-

• 1:02:45Speaker 03

  I'm the one writing the poetry.

• 1:02:47Bill Maher?

  I'm just saying, like, like-

• 1:02:48Speaker 03

  About politics.

• 1:02:50Bill Maher?

  There's just, you can do anything on OnlyFans. It just happens that men masturbating to naked women is the popular choice for, so that, but yes, you can do many other things and, I mean, I don't know what you were doing to make men masturbate, but I'm sure apparently it didn't have to be much.

• 1:03:06Speaker 03

  I don't even know if that's what was going on on my page. I mean, I still have a page, but-

• 1:03:10Bill Maher?

  You can always assume that they're masturbating.

• 1:03:13Speaker 03

  That's true, fucking animals. But I mean-

• 1:03:15Bill Maher?

  They kind of are.

• 1:03:16Speaker 03

  I mean, if you get, if, I mean, I guess if I had a dick, I don't know.

• 1:03:19Bill Maher?

  Well-

• 1:03:20Speaker 03

  I mean.

• 1:03:21Bill Maher?

  Right, if you had a dick.

• 1:03:22Speaker 03

  And it's always fucking wake, it wakes you up. Wakes you up in the middle of the night, in the morning, wakes me up in the fucking morning.

• 1:03:30Bill Maher?

  What are you talking about, guys like looking to get some in bed?

• 1:03:34Speaker 03

  I mean, my boyfriend wakes up in the morning, every morning, I'm sorry, he's up there, sitting up there with a bunch of girls. Right now, they're all looking at him like.

• 1:03:42Bill Maher?

  So you have a boyfriend now?

• 1:03:44Speaker 03

  I do have a boyfriend.

• 1:03:44Bill Maher?

  How long has that been going on?

• 1:03:45Speaker 03

  Um, six years.

• 1:03:47Bill Maher?

  Oh, that's great.

• 1:03:48Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:03:49Bill Maher?

  And it's good, works out well?

• 1:03:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's good.

• 1:03:51Bill Maher?

  And you don't want to get married again?

• 1:03:53Speaker 03

  I never, I've never been married.

• 1:03:55Bill Maher?

  Oh, right.

• 1:03:55Speaker 03

  I think that that's something I would like to try, because I never did it, I never believed in it, like you.

• 1:04:01Bill Maher?

  Me, yeah.

• 1:04:01Speaker 03

  I know, I know that about you, I always thought, why the fuck do you need piece of paper? And why does it have to be government?

• 1:04:06Bill Maher?

  Right, exactly.

• 1:04:07Speaker 03

  Fuck your government, and fuck your institutions, and fuck, I mean, listen, I am a spiritual person, and I want people to get mad at me who think that I'm one thing, and suddenly they hear I'm not. But I don't believe in religious institutions either. I really don't, even though I, you know, I am a crazy Jesus freak, and that's, I love, I love J C, because I love men with long hair and beards, and I'm a hippie like that. And that's my image that I have, which is probably totally fucking wrong and fake. But, um, but the marriage thing, I, I cared, I cared about it after Covid. When I went through what I went through in that time period, where I felt so isolated and so alone, and, and I guess this is how people deduce that I might be a conservative.

• 1:04:52Speaker 03

  I sort of felt like everything was going so far left, that we were getting so far away from the center of things.

• 1:05:00Bill Maher?

  That is true, that happened.

• 1:05:02Speaker 03

  I wanted to get back to tradition, any tradition.

• 1:05:05Bill Maher?

  I didn't want to go all the way that far back, I mean, unless a tradition makes sense. But I'm all for chucking traditions when they don't make sense, some of them do. But yes, your thing about we went too far left, I mean, that's been what I've been preaching. And, and of course, that is never good enough for the super woke. They have to then pretend that you are some sort of enemy, as opposed to just, I just, you know, as I said to the woke people all the time, we voted for the same person, you're just why she lost.

• 1:05:38Speaker 03

  Yeah. I know.

• 1:05:40Bill Maher?

  You know, that's.

• 1:05:41Speaker 03

  And I never, I never would have. I never would have moved over to the right. To me, it just felt like common sense. It had nothing to do with politics. I was like, well, this makes fucking more sense to me. This seems, sounds more like the shit that I was raised on around my dinner table. Because we were a house full of Democrats.

• 1:06:01Bill Maher?

  I can't go there with the biggest.

• 1:06:02Speaker 03

  Well, not every topic.

• 1:06:03Bill Maher?

  Trump is doing things that are just too harmful to this country. And, I mean, you have to really try to be stupider than the woke. But some of those things that they're doing, yeah. I mean, I'm not down with militarizing our cities and all these troops on the ground. I mean, either the police can handle the job, or get better police, or redo how we do police. I do think we need to re-mor, you know, we did.

• 1:06:30Speaker 03

  The message of that is.

• 1:06:32Bill Maher?

  We did take away their morale.

• 1:06:34Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:06:35Bill Maher?

  Because we, we, again, stupid woke shit. Had to pretend that every policeman in America was some sort of racist assassin. And that's just not fair to the cops, who do have a hard job. And there are some racists, there's some racists everywhere. And there's some shitty people doing everything everywhere. But you do need the police. What I don't need is fucking Marines doing the job of the police. I mean, first of all, I don't want them to pick up the bad habits of the police. I don't want the Marines to start eating donuts. And getting like, blowjobs from street workers. I mean, that's just not what the Marines are there for.

• 1:07:14Speaker 03

  They'll be fucking 200 pounds. New York, the New York police.

• 1:07:18Bill Maher?

  Oh, you gotta love the New York police.

• 1:07:20Speaker 03

  I love them. I love them. I was never, I never got on board with that. But I could easily be swayed into. Oh my god, are people getting hurt? Like, any my, no, like, I, you know, again, I was a fucking far-left liberal, man. Like, progressive, in my mind, too. If I, if I even understand politics correctly, I don't know. But I, I, but to me now, those are just fucking pronouns, at this point. Left, right, red, blue, fuck all of it, it's just me and you. And that's it. And I feel like that's what it needs to be. I have no faith in any of these institutions anymore. I don't care about Trump, I don't care about Kennedy, I don't care. Even though I went balls-to-the-wall for Kennedy, and I did, because of all the other things that I thought were important.

• 1:08:05Speaker 03

  And I do love the truth. I think the truth is great. But now, once you get into those positions of power, you can't tell the truth anymore. So, everybody's compromised, and everybody's going to be blackmailed until the end of times. All these feminist ideas, for me, like, I have a problem with a lot of that shit. Like, I don't, I don't need to fucking wear some pussy hat and run around like a maniac to prove that I am some fucking strong being.

• 1:08:37Bill Maher?

  But I bet you if you wore it on OnlyFans, it would work good.

• 1:08:39Speaker 03

  I, you know, maybe I can just fuck-

• 1:08:41Bill Maher?

  Naked with a pussy hat.

• 1:08:42Speaker 03

  Stick my head inside my own pussy, that would be a whole other fucking thing.

• 1:08:46Bill Maher?

  But you haven't shown your pussy, have you?

• 1:08:47Speaker 03

  No. I mean, yes.

• 1:08:49Bill Maher?

  Really?

• 1:08:50Speaker 03

  No, no.

• 1:08:52Bill Maher?

  Like, you know, you're gonna have to-

• 1:08:54Speaker 03

  Let's get back to geopolitics. Geo, ge, not geopolitics, geoengineering, Jesus Christ.

• 1:08:59Bill Maher?

  But see, I don't, I don't-

• 1:09:00Speaker 03

  For the first time, I took my clothes off. And I haven't, I haven't put the pictures out yet. I've never done it. I've never done nudity in my whole life.

• 1:09:08Bill Maher?

  Oh.

• 1:09:09Speaker 03

  I never did it. Sons of Anarchy asked me to do it, for the final episode, to have sex with Charlie Hunnam.

• 1:09:15Bill Maher?

  You never did it with Christopher?

• 1:09:17Speaker 03

  I never did it with Christopher. I was always in my panties, the panties and a bra.

• 1:09:20Bill Maher?

  Panties and a bra?

• 1:09:21Speaker 03

  Panties and a bra.

• 1:09:22Bill Maher?

  Why, that was his thing?

• 1:09:23Speaker 03

  And I lived in panties and a bra. But HBO, there was no full nudity, and on FX, there wasn't nudity, but that show, Sons-

• 1:09:31Bill Maher?

  Ain't you, ain't you, you all that nudity?

• 1:09:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, I never did nudity.

• 1:09:35Bill Maher?

  You didn't?

• 1:09:36Speaker 03

  I mean, I don't get naked in front of people normally. I, I'm uncomfortable, I put a fucking bathing suit on. So here I am now, on OnlyFans, doing something completely, but, you know-

• 1:09:44Bill Maher?

  And why's your boyfriend always rubbing his flashlight against you?

• 1:09:48Speaker 03

  He's young. He's young.

• 1:09:51Bill Maher?

  Oh, look at you. That's my girl. Come on, give me a pound on that one.

• 1:09:58Speaker 03

  But I did, I did take off my clothes for the, I was like, I, and it was kind of a political, you know, story. I don't want to get cute about it or precious, but in a lot of ways, me doing OnlyFans was that. It was like, fuck you. Like, I'm not going to play by your fucking rules. I'm going to go make my own fucking money.

• 1:10:17Bill Maher?

  I think that's.

• 1:10:18Speaker 03

  And I'm going to take a selfie. Like, all these other fucking girls show their everything on Instagram. I don't have a selfie page. Like, I never did that. I was never one of these girls that was like, oh my god, I feel, I feel, look at my tits. Like, never did that before. But the kids were like, do it. Take a, but sell it. And I was like, okay, I'll try. I mean, it was supposed to be podcast, but we didn't do the podcast. Once the picture went up there, I was like, I'm old and tired. Like, this works? Then I'm going to let it ride for a little bit. I don't fucking care.

• 1:10:49Bill Maher?

  I mean, first of all, you look really good. Second of all, more than ever, I've noticed in society, maybe it's just LA, that men are into women. Like, there's a lot of men.

• 1:11:01Speaker 03

  Into old women.

• 1:11:02Bill Maher?

  Who are into cougar age women who've kept themselves up. And, you know, somebody once said to me, Bill, you have no idea what it's like to have sex with a woman in her 40s. And I said to him.

• 1:11:15Speaker 03

  No, I don't.

• 1:11:16Bill Maher?

  You're correct.

• 1:11:18Bill Maher?

  But I get what you're saying, because it's a, it's a 10,000 hours thing. You know the 10,000 hours thing?

• 1:11:24Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:11:25Bill Maher?

  Malcolm Gladwell famously said, anything worth really mastering takes 10,000 hours. Like, playing the piano.

• 1:11:31Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 1:11:32Bill Maher?

  See, if you want to learn to play the piano, you got to put in 10,000 hours.

• 1:11:36Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:11:36Bill Maher?

  And same with fucking. Like, yes, it is, it is kind of a skill that gets better with age. You know, I mean, yes, the 18-year-olds look fantastic. I'm sure I've heard. But, but like, of course, they're going to be terrible in bed.

• 1:11:52Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:11:53Bill Maher?

  Because they haven't put in their 10,000 hours. And if they have, that's a real hoe.

• 1:11:57Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:11:57Bill Maher?

  They've got 10,000 hours by 18.

• 1:11:59Speaker 03

  They're not a good mom.

• 1:12:00Bill Maher?

  That's not a good thing at all.

• 1:12:01Speaker 03

  Um, but yeah, I. I did it. I did it.

• 1:12:06Bill Maher?

  Yeah, you should be fat.

• 1:12:08Speaker 03

  I mean, no, no, no.

• 1:12:09Bill Maher?

  No shame in that.

• 1:12:10Speaker 03

  Listen, I did it at a desperation. There's no question. So I don't have this fucking like, I feel empowered. Like if my kid ever did that shit.

• 1:12:17Bill Maher?

  The people who should be embarrassed, the people who made you, put you in a state of desperation, they should be embarrassed.

• 1:12:25Speaker 03

  No one made me fucking do anything. I made my choices. I could have faked it. I could have lied.

• 1:12:29Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 1:12:30Speaker 03

  I could have used a vaccination card like a lot of other people, like, but I did get dropped by my agent.

• 1:12:35Bill Maher?

  Well, I'm gonna make a-

• 1:12:36Speaker 03

  I got dropped by people-

• 1:12:37Bill Maher?

  Really? Dropped by your agent?

• 1:12:38Speaker 03

  Without even a phone call. She was a friend and she told my manager that she was dropping me.

• 1:12:43Bill Maher?

  Fuck them. This town is such a bunch of fucking assholes. And babies and hypocrites.

• 1:12:50Speaker 03

  I know.

• 1:12:50Bill Maher?

  They're just such obnoxious pricks.

• 1:12:53Speaker 03

  But I love everybody. I don't even care. I know.

• 1:12:58Bill Maher?

  And also some of the greatest people. I mean, you know, it's just humanity. What can you do? But I mean-

• 1:13:04Speaker 03

  And I'm not bitter. Like, I'm really fucking not bitter about it.

• 1:13:07Bill Maher?

  I'm more bitter for you than you are.

• 1:13:08Speaker 03

  No, I'm not because I was, I already had, you know, I didn't feel like I had much. I was losing my home, clearly.

• 1:13:15Bill Maher?

  I think you're-

• 1:13:15Speaker 03

  But career-wise, I didn't feel like I had much to lose. I had money to lose, but not, not something I wanted so bad. So I felt like I had to speak out.

• 1:13:24Bill Maher?

  But careers don't go in a straight line, especially acting careers. I mean, if somebody would be very smart to grab you right now because it's like, okay, you loved her, you haven't forgotten her, and then she got a bad break because that's what America does all the time. They like cast somebody out and then they go a little while later, oh yeah, maybe we were a little hasty about that. Sorry. And then, perfect timing. So I think the timing is right for somebody to put you in something good. I really do.

• 1:13:59Speaker 03

  Well, thanks.

• 1:14:00Bill Maher?

  No, I really, I think that would be a great-

• 1:14:02Speaker 03

  They're also not making TV shows.

• 1:14:02Bill Maher?

  It would be a very smart casting move. It just would.

• 1:14:06Speaker 03

  They're not making TV shows. That's another thing.

• 1:14:09Bill Maher?

  Really? They're not making TV shows? Not all those streamings?

• 1:14:12Speaker 03

  There's not a lot of stuff going on. All my friends are out of work.

• 1:14:15Bill Maher?

  The streaming services aren't all doing a million?

• 1:14:16Speaker 03

  They overshot themselves during COVID. Everything is fucked up.

• 1:14:21Bill Maher?

  Yeah, another, not that they needed another log on the fire of why they hate me, but you know, I wasn't exactly the biggest supporter of the strike.

• 1:14:29Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:14:30Bill Maher?

  And of course.

• 1:14:31Speaker 03

  I'm not a huge supporter, but I understand it because of the strike.

• 1:14:34Bill Maher?

  Yeah, of course. And I'm not against their wishes, but it did come out a few months ago. Forty percent of the jobs never came back. So it wasn't exactly like I was completely wrong about it.

• 1:14:48Speaker 03

  No, but like this movie that I, that I just, that I did two years ago, that was one of the number one films on Netflix right now, Netflix. And it's, I think it's, yeah, it's nominated for an Emmy this year. It got 2.8 billion streams. And because it was before the strike, we don't get a fucking dollar from that. I don't get residuals from The Sopranos either because it was cable and we hadn't really negotiated that yet. So it's fucked up.

• 1:15:20Bill Maher?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:20Speaker 03

  So of course I was in fucking foreclosure at that point after, you know, I work, I work from, I make sure I work for a certain amount of months and then I don't work for a while so I could take care of my kids. So, but yeah, so yes, I did, I did the OnlyFans.

• 1:15:35Bill Maher?

  And the kids are how old?

• 1:15:37Speaker 03

  Seventeen and fourteen.

• 1:15:38Bill Maher?

  Wow, that's some very tender ages.

• 1:15:42Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, especially growing up in this shit. I mean, with all this technology and it is.

• 1:15:49Bill Maher?

  They want to be in this business?

• 1:15:52Speaker 03

  Well, now they both want to be musicians, which is.

• 1:15:56Bill Maher?

  Oh, good.

• 1:15:57Speaker 03

  Nerve wracking.

• 1:15:58Bill Maher?

  Why?

• 1:15:59Speaker 03

  It's another, it's another entertainment section, that's another place where everybody was canceled. And if you didn't follow the protocol.

• 1:16:08Bill Maher?

  Music?

• 1:16:09Speaker 03

  Oh, my God.

• 1:16:10Bill Maher?

  Who got canceled in music?

• 1:16:11Speaker 03

  Well, no, I mean, everybody was fucking woke as hell, except for the four people that spoke out and they were completely demonized. I mean, and if you're, I mean, the only place you can survive is country music, maybe. And.

• 1:16:25Bill Maher?

  You talking about Kanye?

• 1:16:26Speaker 03

  I mean, I can talk about even my own boyfriend.

• 1:16:29Bill Maher?

  Why? What'd he say?

• 1:16:30Speaker 03

  He ended up quitting his band. And he quit his band over other reasons because they, they were not being cool to him.

• 1:16:37Bill Maher?

  So you're with another musician?

• 1:16:38Speaker 03

  I'm always with a musician.

• 1:16:39Bill Maher?

  That's your type? You're a groupie?

• 1:16:42Speaker 03

  I'm a groupie whore. I'm just kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

• 1:16:45Bill Maher?

  Nothing wrong with that.

• 1:16:46Speaker 03

  I'm kidding.

• 1:16:48Speaker 03

  Now my kids are musicians, so now I can just take care of their music career. But no.

• 1:16:54Bill Maher?

  Hey, music goes right to the pussy.

• 1:16:55Speaker 03

  I love music. Oh, I thought you were gonna say right to the bone, but I guess you were.

• 1:16:59Bill Maher?

  I'm just, I'm just saying, you don't have to like, intellectualize, you know.

• 1:17:04Speaker 03

  No, it's the best.

• 1:17:06Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 1:17:06Speaker 03

  It's the best. I mean, if I could have, um, I think that was, that's my number one favorite thing in the world. I think when I was a kid, I loved musical theater. And then that, I just fell in love with rock and roll when I was a kid, like, like that. Every musical genre, though. I love all kinds of music. But, um, but my, with my boyfriend and the music thing, once we started Ultra Free, people started calling him a white nationalist and like, both of us. People think that we're like, these, these, like racist. And we're like, what? Like, I don't even understand how we got there. Like, I'm a hippie, you don't wanna take medicine, cuz I don't even take Tylenol.

• 1:17:46Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 1:17:47Speaker 03

  So now I'm a fucking racist.

• 1:17:49Bill Maher?

  You have to be all in, or you're all bad. I mean, this is one of the key things, I think, that we have to solve. And, you know, I'm, I'm hoping because the Democrats got their ass kicked last time, and, you know.

• 1:18:05Speaker 03

  I know you want Gavin Newsom to be the president.

• 1:18:07Bill Maher?

  I like Gavin Newsom.

• 1:18:08Speaker 03

  I know you like him.

• 1:18:09Bill Maher?

  I do.

• 1:18:10Speaker 03

  You think he's very presidential.

• 1:18:12Bill Maher?

  I do.

• 1:18:14Speaker 03

  I mean, he's cute.

• 1:18:15Bill Maher?

  He's cute.

• 1:18:16Speaker 03

  Handsome.

• 1:18:16Bill Maher?

  I mean, that's not what's doing it for me, but it's, but I'm, but I'm glad.

• 1:18:20Speaker 03

  You like the way he dances when he talks?

• 1:18:22Bill Maher?

  But I'm glad he has that going for him.

• 1:18:23Speaker 03

  When he does like a poppin' look when he talks about the fires, that was cute, too.

• 1:18:27Bill Maher?

  There's two things that go right to the pussy, music and politics. Wait, no. But, I mean, come on, it's, it's not a detriment.

• 1:18:35Speaker 03

  Listen, I was in DC for some event that, that we were at for, you know, the republic, the whole thing during that era. And, uh, I couldn't believe the feeling in this hotel that I was in. Of, I could feel the, the sexual.

• 1:18:54Speaker 03

  Like degeneracy that previously lived in those hotel rooms. Like, I could feel it. I don't know what it was. I've never said that. I've been living in California my whole life.

• 1:19:04Bill Maher?

  Wait, where are we now? Where am I feeling this?

• 1:19:06Speaker 03

  In DC.

• 1:19:07Bill Maher?

  No, but where were you?

• 1:19:08Speaker 03

  What hotel was I in?

• 1:19:10Bill Maher?

  You were in a ballroom?

• 1:19:11Speaker 03

  I was in a hotel. I was at a hotel.

• 1:19:14Bill Maher?

  Where in the hotel?

• 1:19:15Speaker 03

  The rooms, the lobby, everything, everything about DC.

• 1:19:19Bill Maher?

  Ranked of sex?

• 1:19:20Speaker 03

  The whole fucking place felt like, like dirty sex to me, man.

• 1:19:25Bill Maher?

  Maybe they sprayed it. Um, but wait, just, just a feeling? You didn't not, you didn't literally smell it?

• 1:19:32Speaker 03

  No, it was a beautiful hotel that we were staying at, you know, probably.

• 1:19:37Bill Maher?

  What hotel? I'm asking for a friend.

• 1:19:39Speaker 03

  You need to know. I can't remember the name of the hotel, man.

• 1:19:42Bill Maher?

  You're Simea Pestis? I'm registered under the name Mr. Pestis, yes. Could you have some champagne? Sounds up to 6:14. Thank you very much.

• 1:19:52Speaker 03

  Maybe it was called Langham or something. I, I don't remember what it was called.

• 1:19:57Bill Maher?

  But what is the, what, point being that DC is...

• 1:20:01Speaker 03

  Well, we're talking about politics and rock and roll going sss.

• 1:20:04Bill Maher?

  But I never think of, I think of politics as state and like whenever you...

• 1:20:09Speaker 03

  No, man. This was demonic feeling.

• 1:20:13Bill Maher?

  Demonic?

• 1:20:14Speaker 03

  Yes, there was this really dark sexual energy there. I swear.

• 1:20:19Bill Maher?

  Now, QAnon believes the Democrats are pedophiles.

• 1:20:23Speaker 03

  I don't know anything about QAnon.

• 1:20:25Bill Maher?

  Okay, but do you believe the Democrats are pedophiles?

• 1:20:30Speaker 03

  I think that there's pedophilia in the world.

• 1:20:33Bill Maher?

  In the world, sure.

• 1:20:34Speaker 03

  But if, I don't think that should be politicized again.

• 1:20:37Bill Maher?

  Oh, good.

• 1:20:37Speaker 03

  You know, I think most of these issues should never be politicized. I think, but that was a funny thing when that was happening, when, when all of the, that Sound of Freedom movie came out about that guy that was... That was talking about all the child trafficking. And how publications like Rolling Stone and like all of these like pillars of being a liberal. They all came out and said the most awful things about this film. And it's like, who cares about the film? Let's talk about what it's about.

• 1:21:08Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 1:21:09Speaker 03

  Why do you, why do you give a fuck about this movie? Like that it's, that it's political and that you don't like it because the right wing people. I mean, you don't think there's pedophiles on the right too? Like, what the fuck are you crazy?

• 1:21:22Bill Maher?

  That's part of our problem is that everybody makes their decisions based on the politics of the art and not the art itself.

• 1:21:30Speaker 03

  That was recent though, right? I mean, I would say that that was not a thing before.

• 1:21:34Bill Maher?

  Correct.

• 1:21:34Speaker 03

  Politics were always corrupt.

• 1:21:35Bill Maher?

  Correct. Well, no, people used to judge the art for the art itself. And the politics was sort of secondary. And now it's the reverse.

• 1:21:44Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:21:45Bill Maher?

  That certainly has happened in my business. When I started way back with Politically Incorrect, everybody said, you know, you can't do a show where you talk, give your opinions as a talk show host. You alienate half the crowd. And I was like, you know what?

• 1:22:00Bill Maher?

  I believe the crowd can take it and they could. But in those days, you're like Letterman, Leno, you know, Carson, they never told you their politics. Now, we moved into an era, you know, Stephen Colbert and Jon Stewart and John Oliver. I mean, I'm not knocking them, I'm just saying that the, Kimmel, the most important thing was to signal to the audience what your politics are. You had to, and it was all.

• 1:22:28Speaker 03

  Did it get scripted or brainwashed?

• 1:22:29Bill Maher?

  It sounded scripted, but it was like very predictably just whatever MSNBC was saying. I agree with a hundred percent.

• 1:22:38Speaker 03

  Microsoft Media?

• 1:22:40Bill Maher?

  What?

• 1:22:40Speaker 03

  Fucking Microsoft Media.

• 1:22:42Bill Maher?

  Well, whatever, but like that, and the audience, you know, and of course, half the country was like, well, this is just insulting to me. Whereas Leno, you know, never did that. Leno just played it right down the middle. He just like, I will make fun of everybody. And that's in a different sort of way, what I'm doing also. I mean, I just, I just don't stop. Criticizing just because you're on the left part. If you do something stupid, I'm gonna call it out, no matter where you are. And, you know, if people don't pay attention, they don't get it that, yes, I still think the Republicans are more dangerous because, I mean, they don't really believe in democracy anymore and they're doing a lot of harmful things.

• 1:23:23Bill Maher?

  But, you know, I'm also not gonna deny that Trump won because a lot of things did get way out of whack. That he said, "I'm going to correct." You know, the border shouldn't be open. DEI is out of control. You know, universities are out of control. He wasn't, he's not wrong about all those things. I just don't agree with his method of addressing them.

• 1:23:47Speaker 03

  Yeah, some of those things are gonna go too far.

• 1:23:49Bill Maher?

  But we can talk about it, you know? We should always be able to fucking talk about it. So, that's just what I wish people would take away from this podcast. Is don't hate people because you don't-

• 1:24:02Speaker 03

  No, some people glaze over. Some people don't even know what you're talking about.

• 1:24:05Bill Maher?

  Too many people glaze over. And it's like, you know, maybe you're crazy a little too.

• 1:24:12Bill Maher?

  Anyway, it was great to meet you.

• 1:24:13Speaker 03

  Great to meet you too.

• 1:24:14Bill Maher?

  I'll let you go back to your young boyfriend and your kids, who probably are reaching that age where they're going to be-

• 1:24:23Speaker 03

  They're gonna torture me, the 14-year-old.

• 1:24:26Bill Maher?

  Doing crazy things. I'm sure you'll handle it. I'm so glad we got to know each other. That's why I love doing this podcast. And, I don't know, goodbye.

• 1:24:36Speaker 03

  Goodbye.

• 1:24:40Bill Maher?

  All right.

• 1:24:41Speaker 03

  Oh, my gosh.

• 1:24:41Bill Maher?

  Give me a big Italian.

• 1:24:42Speaker 03

  I'm sweating my fucking ass off.

• 1:24:44Bill Maher?

  Really?

• 1:24:48Bill Maher?

  I'm sorry.

• 1:24:49Speaker 03

  So hot.

• 1:24:50Bill Maher?

  Really? I feel like it's delightful.

• 1:24:52Speaker 03

  You do?

• 1:24:53Bill Maher?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:53Speaker 03

  Fucking relaxed, you're stoned, you're in your playroom.

• 1:24:56Bill Maher?

  Yeah, I got my bowling shirt on.

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