Bonus Episode - Advice with Karen and Georgia

Karen and Georgia give listeners advice about weddings, friendship, cats, family boundaries and baby-name drama. Presented by Cars.com. See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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• 0:01Speaker 00

  This is exactly right.

• 0:07Speaker 00

  911, what's your emergency?

• 0:09Georgia Hardstark?

  Please help us, they're everywhere. We think they're murder hornets.

• 0:15Speaker 02

  911 Nashville returns.

• 0:17Karen Kilgariff?

  It's a homicide detective down here.

• 0:19Georgia Hardstark?

  Three bodies on the ground.

• 0:20Speaker 02

  With emergencies of biblical proportions.

• 0:23Georgia Hardstark?

  All sins swarms upon you and upon your people.

• 0:26Karen Kilgariff?

  That's one of the plagues of the Bible.

• 0:27Georgia Hardstark?

  And somebody's unleashing them on Nashville.

• 0:30Speaker 02

  Brian Phillippech, 911 Nashville. All new Thursdays on ABC, next day on Hulu.

• 0:52Karen Kilgariff?

  Hello and welcome.

• 0:54Georgia Hardstark?

  To my favorite murder.

• 0:55Karen Kilgariff?

  That's Georgia Hartstark.

• 0:56Georgia Hardstark?

  That's Karen Kilgariff.

• 0:57Karen Kilgariff?

  And today, we thought it would be fun to give you a little bonus advice episode, where we solve all of your life's problems by answering the questions that you've submitted to us.

• 1:06Georgia Hardstark?

  This is a special three-part series brought to you by cars.com. Because whether you're trying to find the right car, or you need life advice, having a trusted source makes it a whole lot easier.

• 1:16Karen Kilgariff?

  And we are the trusted source in this situation.

• 1:19Georgia Hardstark?

  Yes, trust us.

• 1:20Karen Kilgariff?

  For the advice, okay. So here we go, this is, we're not responsible for the results of what we tell you.

• 1:27Georgia Hardstark?

  No.

• 1:27Karen Kilgariff?

  We are not doctors, lawyers, journalists.

• 1:32Georgia Hardstark?

  College graduates.

• 1:33Karen Kilgariff?

  Responsible with our words or actions.

• 1:37Georgia Hardstark?

  Good drivers.

• 1:39Karen Kilgariff?

  Good citizens.

• 1:40Georgia Hardstark?

  Listen with caution, okay.

• 1:42Karen Kilgariff?

  Listen without prejudice, may I quote George Michael?

• 1:45Georgia Hardstark?

  Thank you.

• 1:46Karen Kilgariff?

  You're welcome.

• 1:46Georgia Hardstark?

  This is from Belle, who wrote into our Gmail and said, hi Karen and Georgia, I would really appreciate your feedback and perspective on my current life situation. My fiance and I are getting married this fall. Immediately, this is great, we're gonna ruin someone's relationship.

• 2:00Karen Kilgariff?

  The stakes are as high as they can be.

• 2:02Georgia Hardstark?

  They are. We're planning a small intimate wedding and reception.

• 2:05Karen Kilgariff?

  Wrong.

• 2:07Georgia Hardstark?

  With about 30 guests. We intentionally wanted to keep it simple, because weddings are incredibly expensive, and we wanted the day to focus on celebrating the couple who are starting their lives together. That said, many of our friends and family have shared strong opinions about what they would like for our wedding. Who fucking does that?

• 2:24Karen Kilgariff?

  Shut up.

• 2:26Georgia Hardstark?

  While I genuinely appreciate their enthusiasm, it seems they're much more excited about things like bachelorette trips, wedding colors, bridesmaids dresses, floral arrangements, and all the other details than I am. Their excitement for wanting to know every aspect of the wedding far outweighs my own interest and enthusiasm in making these decisions. It has me wondering, is there something wrong with me? Is it bad that I don't feel excited about all the aesthetics and the expectations that are associated with weddings? I'd love to hear your thoughts, all the best, Belle. Remember just 10 years ago, my wedding?

• 2:59Karen Kilgariff?

  A mere 10 years ago.

• 3:01Georgia Hardstark?

  I know, we had no wedding party. I had no one walk me down the aisle, because I'm a grown ass fucking woman. So Vince went to the front, I walked into a cool song at the front, I bought the fucking flowers for the whole thing that morning at the local florist.

• 3:15Karen Kilgariff?

  Yep, we decorated the room.

• 3:17Georgia Hardstark?

  All my girlfriends decorated the rooms, lots of baby's breath, because it's cheap. I bought a dress for like $150 online, like you don't need, it's not for them.

• 3:27Karen Kilgariff?

  And your wedding, I think anybody that was there would argue it was one of the best. Like, because the plan was essentially, we're all sitting in the room, where we're gonna eat, drink, dance, everything. And you guys came in and got married as like the, obviously, main event. It was self-contained.

• 3:45Georgia Hardstark?

  Right.

• 3:46Karen Kilgariff?

  It was an amazing huge party.

• 3:48Georgia Hardstark?

  Yeah, like, not every, like, if people want to do that with their weddings, and spend all the money and have all the things, that's great, I'm happy for them. I really want to be invited, I like those parties.

• 3:58Karen Kilgariff?

  Yes.

• 3:58Georgia Hardstark?

  But it's such a huge amount of money.

• 4:01Karen Kilgariff?

  Well, and I think you and I may have talked about this, because when I was getting married so long, long ago, I got into this thing of what this needed to be for other people.

• 4:11Georgia Hardstark?

  Totally.

• 4:12Karen Kilgariff?

  And it will destroy you. I was buying bridal magazines, and then being like, there'd be advertisements for like, have you ever seen those things with the lighting kits, where there's like, shine your name down onto the dance floor?

• 4:22Georgia Hardstark?

  Oh my god, like the extras, like a bar mitzvah.

• 4:26Karen Kilgariff?

  You're competing with other weddings in your mind, or your friends. Like, it turns into this thing where everyone's getting played, because all those vendors make bank on that pressure to be better than the last wedding, or whatever.

• 4:40Georgia Hardstark?

  Suddenly you need a fucking mashed potato bar.

• 4:42Karen Kilgariff?

  Ugh.

• 4:43Georgia Hardstark?

  And you had like 300 people at your wedding, right?

• 4:45Karen Kilgariff?

  Yeah, it's the, I had family members who were like, we sent them the invitation, they'd send it back, cross things out, and at plus eight and shit. Like, it was nuts, and I have to say, one of the greatest parties of all time.

• 4:57Georgia Hardstark?

  Alright.

• 4:58Karen Kilgariff?

  It worked, but same thing where I think we just focused on what, like, what was important. I was like, open bar from when you get there?

• 5:06Georgia Hardstark?

  Right.

• 5:07Karen Kilgariff?

  Not after the ceremony.

• 5:08Georgia Hardstark?

  Right.

• 5:08Karen Kilgariff?

  My cousins, each one of them came to me of like, dude, amazing move.

• 5:12Georgia Hardstark?

  I think you have to do that, at least have like some champagne out before the actual ceremony.

• 5:18Karen Kilgariff?

  Yes.

• 5:19Georgia Hardstark?

  Or like a signature cocktail, whatever the fuck people do nowadays.

• 5:22Karen Kilgariff?

  Yeah.

• 5:23Georgia Hardstark?

  Which you actually don't need either, we just had an open bar.

• 5:25Karen Kilgariff?

  Yeah, you don't need that.

• 5:26Georgia Hardstark?

  You don't need a signature fucking cocktail.

• 5:28Karen Kilgariff?

  Send an email that says your uncles can bring in their flask, or a six-pack under their arm.

• 5:32Georgia Hardstark?

  Absolutely, but bring enough to share.

• 5:34Karen Kilgariff?

  That's right, let everybody get a little buzzed up, so they can like feel free to enjoy your love, because where society has a real problem with stuff like that.

• 5:41Georgia Hardstark?

  Uncle Eugene can bring his six-pack or 12-pack, carry it with him all night, so no one gets any.

• 5:47Karen Kilgariff?

  Yes.

• 5:47Georgia Hardstark?

  And that's fine.

• 5:48Karen Kilgariff?

  But I would also say this, to Belle also. The, it's a familiar thing when you get excited about a thing you're gonna do, and you start telling people or asking people like, what do you think, or what color? And then, pretty soon, you're like, why the fuck did I ask anybody?

• 6:01Georgia Hardstark?

  Yeah.

• 6:02Karen Kilgariff?

  So, that's fine, you can take the feedback and then ignore it and do whatever you want.

• 6:06Georgia Hardstark?

  Yes.

• 6:07Karen Kilgariff?

  I think you're, sometimes that family pressure of like, well, you're not doing it right?

• 6:11Georgia Hardstark?

  Yeah.

• 6:11Karen Kilgariff?

  Is how other people kind of get, it's their get back for like, was their day not exactly what they wanted? So now suddenly, it's so important that you're wearing a veil, or some weird shit that it doesn't actually really matter.

• 6:23Georgia Hardstark?

  Totally.

• 6:24Karen Kilgariff?

  Yeah.

• 6:24Georgia Hardstark?

  Yeah, and they say always, right? Like, you always hear the things, of course, like, the more you spend on a wedding, the less likely it's gonna last, or some crazy shit like that. Which is just like, so depressing and scary.

• 6:35Karen Kilgariff?

  And true. Okay, our next question came from Laura B. on the Discord. How do I tell one of my besties that I don't want to go to her birthday party that is an out-of-town weekend get-together?

• 6:46Georgia Hardstark?

  I've done that.

• 6:47Karen Kilgariff?

  Yeah. I'm an introvert that doesn't drink anymore, and the crowd is a mostly heavy drinking crowd.

• 6:52Georgia Hardstark?

  Yeah, you don't have to go.

• 6:54Karen Kilgariff?

  No way.

• 6:55Georgia Hardstark?

  Get her a nice, have a nice dinner. Take her out for a nice dinner, get her a thoughtful, you know, something thoughtful, write a nice card.

• 7:02Karen Kilgariff?

  Yep.

• 7:03Georgia Hardstark?

  You are not obligated, and you can say, that's not my scene.

• 7:07Karen Kilgariff?

  Yep.

• 7:08Georgia Hardstark?

  I hope you have the most amazing time.

• 7:10Karen Kilgariff?

  And we'll do something special when you get back.

• 7:11Georgia Hardstark?

  Absolutely.

• 7:12Karen Kilgariff?

  God bless. Also, if it's a person that's like, you know, obviously you're a good friend, then it's like, that's just one more fun birthday event for them, that's not a minus.

• 7:20Georgia Hardstark?

  And if it's your good friend, they'll understand.

• 7:23Karen Kilgariff?

  This idea that people are like, it's my birthday fucking week, and we all have to go places together, it just, I think it's a setup for unhappiness.

• 7:30Georgia Hardstark?

  Yeah.

• 7:30Karen Kilgariff?

  I think people keep on doing stuff like that, to be like, and then we'll all have a good time this way. And it's just that weird, like, it's, have one party and get it, get it over with.

• 7:41Georgia Hardstark?

  Absolutely. You know what Vince did one time for my birthday, for like, is he rented, they have like Airbnbs for pools, people with backyards with pools.

• 7:51Karen Kilgariff?

  Oh, yeah.

• 7:51Georgia Hardstark?

  Just fucking rent, you know, like, just the pool for the day in the neighborhood, it doesn't have to be a fucking weekend trip.

• 7:57Karen Kilgariff?

  Yes.

• 7:57Georgia Hardstark?

  One day.

• 7:58Karen Kilgariff?

  Yeah, because these days, weekend trips are like, it's, everything is so expensive.

• 8:03Georgia Hardstark?

  Yeah, and I'm the same, I'm an introvert, like, you know, the first night's always amazing and so much fun, and yes, everyone is shitfaced. The next day, everyone's hungover, and no one wants to do the fucking sound bath that everyone paid for already, like, or whatever.

• 8:15Karen Kilgariff?

  Then here come the tears, because you've ruined my sound bath dream of my birthday.

• 8:19Georgia Hardstark?

  Exactly. Don't go, you don't have to go.

• 8:21Karen Kilgariff?

  Don't do it.

• 8:21Georgia Hardstark?

  And if they get mad at you, then that's not your friend.

• 8:23Karen Kilgariff?

  If they get mad at you, Georgia's number is 323.

• 8:30Georgia Hardstark?

  Okay, a few more, let's go.

• 8:32Karen Kilgariff?

  Okay, this one's from at Liam Lair on Instagram, and Liam Lair says, visiting my mom in April, and I haven't told her I'm getting a hotel yet.

• 8:40Georgia Hardstark?

  Ooh.

• 8:41Karen Kilgariff?

  What, when do I tell her? That's big.

• 8:45Georgia Hardstark?

  It is big. I'm gonna have to do that soon. So tell us.

• 8:48Karen Kilgariff?

  Well, I would say, don't put it off until the last minute. Don't let her prepare to have you at her home, like buy groceries and get excited.

• 8:59Georgia Hardstark?

  Yeah.

• 8:59Karen Kilgariff?

  And essentially be just kind of clean and clear about it's like, because A, B, and C, I'm gonna stay at this hotel.

• 9:06Georgia Hardstark?

  Period.

• 9:07Karen Kilgariff?

  But I will be at your house for dinner, lunch, breakfast, whatever. Like, get clear about that you're not trying to avoid her.

• 9:13Georgia Hardstark?

  Yeah.

• 9:13Karen Kilgariff?

  You just need the things you need.

• 9:15Georgia Hardstark?

  Blame, I mean, this is true for me, actually. Blame your back. You can't sleep on a pullout fucking bed.

• 9:20Karen Kilgariff?

  Yes, yeah.

• 9:20Georgia Hardstark?

  I wouldn't want to do that. Or blame the pets. You're allergic to the cats and you don't want to be there all night. Or what?

• 9:29Karen Kilgariff?

  Um, you-

• 9:29Georgia Hardstark?

  I hate you. You ruined my childhood.

• 9:32Karen Kilgariff?

  Why did you withhold from me and force me to now withhold from you?

• 9:36Georgia Hardstark?

  Yeah.

• 9:36Karen Kilgariff?

  Vis a vis a hotel room. I mean, there's the other thing, too, of like, if it's a, obviously, it's a, it's going back home situation?

• 9:44Georgia Hardstark?

  Right.

• 9:44Karen Kilgariff?

  So maybe it's like, I get points at the hotel. It'll be, I get to relax. You and I don't have to be like, on top of each other all the time.

• 9:53Georgia Hardstark?

  Say you're using points to get that. I say that whenever I get my friend a flight somewhere or a hotel, I say, I have points. I'm not even paying anything, which is not true.

• 10:01Karen Kilgariff?

  You're lying to their face.

• 10:03Georgia Hardstark?

  I am. But it just makes everyone feel better about it.

• 10:06Karen Kilgariff?

  Yes. And if you think you have a mom who's gonna take it really personally or be really heartbroken.

• 10:11Georgia Hardstark?

  Yeah.

• 10:11Karen Kilgariff?

  Just be like, I need, you know, I have to sleep. I don't like blank. And I set up like, we're getting massages at this hotel on this one day.

• 10:20Georgia Hardstark?

  Right. For her to, she gets a massage too. Oh, I love that. And we'll go to dinner at the restaurant.

• 10:24Karen Kilgariff?

  Exactly.

• 10:25Georgia Hardstark?

  Yeah.

• 10:26Karen Kilgariff?

  Do a thing where you, I want you to be in my world. I want to be in your world. I just need to sleep and not have it, you know, and not have your weird dolls looking at me or whatever.

• 10:35Georgia Hardstark?

  Or what about your weird Pomeranian? You're like 18-year-old Pomeranian.

• 10:39Karen Kilgariff?

  That you clearly like way better than you ever liked any of your children.

• 10:42Georgia Hardstark?

  If there's a pool, we can hang out by the pool all day.

• 10:44Karen Kilgariff?

  That's right.

• 10:45Georgia Hardstark?

  Oh, yeah, the perks.

• 10:46Karen Kilgariff?

  And usually there's drinks at the pool.

• 10:48Georgia Hardstark?

  I love it. You get your mom drunk.

• 10:49Karen Kilgariff?

  That's right.

• 10:50Georgia Hardstark?

  Okay.

• 10:50Karen Kilgariff?

  She wants to be drunk and she doesn't want you up her ass either.

• 10:54Georgia Hardstark?

  No.

• 10:54Karen Kilgariff?

  So just think of it that way.

• 10:55Georgia Hardstark?

  Yeah, you're doing everyone a favor.

• 10:56Karen Kilgariff?

  Yeah. And saying you don't have to clean up after me, cook for me, blankety-blank.

• 11:01Georgia Hardstark?

  Right.

• 11:02Karen Kilgariff?

  So this is the one that actually is, we gotta be careful about how-

• 11:07Georgia Hardstark?

  We were warming up.

• 11:08Karen Kilgariff?

  Yes. That's right. Now we're gonna be real reasonable and really logical. So this question was sent to our Gmail anonymously.

• 11:16Georgia Hardstark?

  Wow.

• 11:17Karen Kilgariff?

  That's how important it is. It says, "My husband and I recently had a baby girl. After she was born, my brother-in-law and his wife accused us of stealing the baby name that they had wanted, in parentheses, even though we had no idea they liked or planned to use that name, and they weren't expecting a child at the time."

• 11:35Georgia Hardstark?

  And they, do they admit they never told you? That's the biggest question, I think.

• 11:39Karen Kilgariff?

  Every-

• 11:39Georgia Hardstark?

  We don't know.

• 11:39Karen Kilgariff?

  Let's see. "Everyone we've told about this says that they are crazy for cutting us out of their lives over the name of their niece."

• 11:46Georgia Hardstark?

  Holy shit!

• 11:48Karen Kilgariff?

  Yeah. "But," all caps, "my husband's parents disagree and did not take our side. Family gatherings are super awkward now."

• 11:55Georgia Hardstark?

  Oh, my god.

• 11:56Karen Kilgariff?

  "I need help from my unofficial big sisters. Am I in the wrong? Sincerely, no name because apparently names can destroy families."

• 12:04Georgia Hardstark?

  Wow.

• 12:05Karen Kilgariff?

  I mean-

• 12:06Georgia Hardstark?

  Do you want to be right or happy?

• 12:07Karen Kilgariff?

  Yeah.

• 12:08Georgia Hardstark?

  Right? But you can't change your child's name.

• 12:11Karen Kilgariff?

  Well, also, if they, for, like, say, all of the woman's life has been telling everyone she knows, like, "When I get up, I'm gonna name my baby Joan," or whatever.

• 12:22Georgia Hardstark?

  It's gotta be Joan.

• 12:23Karen Kilgariff?

  It's gotta be a baby named Joan. But it's like, and then you just didn't know and did it. That's unreasonable to cut you out of their life for that.

• 12:30Georgia Hardstark?

  Absolutely.

• 12:32Karen Kilgariff?

  And you have to, there is that thing of like, it is the weird part of when people get married and now there's just these new people in the family that do things real different.

• 12:40Georgia Hardstark?

  Totally.

• 12:40Karen Kilgariff?

  So I would say, the people who are related to each other, so maybe it's your husband and his brother.

• 12:47Georgia Hardstark?

  Yeah.

• 12:47Karen Kilgariff?

  They need to talk to each other.

• 12:49Georgia Hardstark?

  They need to work it out.

• 12:50Karen Kilgariff?

  The family members have to fix it.

• 12:52Georgia Hardstark?

  Hundred percent.

• 12:53Karen Kilgariff?

  And then the exterior married-ins, who maybe are the ones, but, you know-

• 12:59Georgia Hardstark?

  Sister, they don't need to get along. They don't need to be friends.

• 13:02Karen Kilgariff?

  No. But also, I think that accusation's so strong of like, you stole our baby name. That's just weird.

• 13:09Georgia Hardstark?

  Totally.

• 13:09Karen Kilgariff?

  Unless, because this person is the one that wrote in, they're kind of leaving out a detail or two of being responsible, but-

• 13:18Georgia Hardstark?

  It sounds like they didn't know.

• 13:20Karen Kilgariff?

  Yes.

• 13:20Georgia Hardstark?

  Right? And either way, you can't change the name. So you can either apologize if you feel that it'll help or that you're okay with that.

• 13:28Karen Kilgariff?

  Right.

• 13:28Georgia Hardstark?

  Or explain and expect them not to care and be mad still. And that's on them.

• 13:35Karen Kilgariff?

  I mean, it is the kind of thing where it's like, okay, so now we just don't have holidays together and all the stuff that we used to do.

• 13:42Georgia Hardstark?

  And you have a brand-new baby niece?

• 13:44Karen Kilgariff?

  You have a baby niece.

• 13:45Georgia Hardstark?

  And you're just gonna cut them out of your life?

• 13:46Karen Kilgariff?

  And then you don't have kids and you aren't having them in the immediate future, apparently. But maybe, and this is the other thing, you have to remember, all fights like this are not about the topic.

• 13:57Georgia Hardstark?

  Right.

• 13:58Karen Kilgariff?

  So maybe it's some sort of thing of like, anxiety about not being able to have kids.

• 14:02Georgia Hardstark?

  That's right.

• 14:03Karen Kilgariff?

  Or it's such a personal, emotional, specific thing.

• 14:07Georgia Hardstark?

  Yeah. Maybe in that case, then, the people who aren't related, the woman and the sister-in-law or whatever, should have their own, like, can we go on a walk and just talk this through? Because this seems like a lot, and I want to fix this, but I don't think I did anything wrong.

• 14:24Karen Kilgariff?

  I mean, if you say that, say, "I want to fix this," and don't say anything else, don't be defensive, but, yes, like, that's, it's, everyone's an adult and it is, no one likes to have a conflict conversation, but it isn't as hard as everybody built it up to be.

• 14:39Georgia Hardstark?

  Right. Cutting someone out of your life is way harder than having a, like, a harder conversation.

• 14:43Karen Kilgariff?

  It just sits on you. And, and then it's, you've built a story, like, you kind of, if you're that person, you have to go like, is this something my mom used to do? And I'm just doing what I used to see?

• 14:53Georgia Hardstark?

  Right.

• 14:54Karen Kilgariff?

  That kind of thing of cutting people, it's so Irish Catholic, like, cutting people off, silent treatment.

• 14:58Georgia Hardstark?

  Yeah.

• 14:59Karen Kilgariff?

  All that kind of stuff is just unprocessed. Like, you're not using any tools.

• 15:04Georgia Hardstark?

  Yeah, got it.

• 15:05Karen Kilgariff?

  So somebody's got to figure out who the adults are and the adults have to talk and fix it.

• 15:09Georgia Hardstark?

  Yeah.

• 15:10Karen Kilgariff?

  Also, because it's not fair to that little girl.

• 15:12Georgia Hardstark?

  No.

• 15:13Karen Kilgariff?

  That's, she somehow is gonna get the back end of that from-

• 15:16Georgia Hardstark?

  Grandma and grandpa even are fucking siding with them.

• 15:20Karen Kilgariff?

  I mean, why are grandma and grandpa siding if it's a true and pure mistake?

• 15:24Georgia Hardstark?

  Right.

• 15:25Karen Kilgariff?

  We might have to airlift you out of that family.

• 15:28Georgia Hardstark?

  Yeah. We're your baby now. Um, that was super fun.

• 15:33Karen Kilgariff?

  We named it Advice With Karen and Georgia, because although it is from us, we are not responsible, again, for what we have just advised you with.

• 15:42Georgia Hardstark?

  Maybe it should be Advice Near Karen and Georgia.

• 15:44Karen Kilgariff?

  Karen and Georgia, say stuff. You are the one interpreting it as advice.

• 15:49Georgia Hardstark?

  Yeah.

• 15:49Karen Kilgariff?

  That would be the whole graphic.

• 15:51Georgia Hardstark?

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• 16:24Georgia Hardstark?

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• 16:28Georgia Hardstark?

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• 16:30Karen Kilgariff?

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• 16:35Georgia Hardstark?

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  Virgin Voyages' second True Crime Voyage sets sail March 20th, 2027, for a five-night escape to Grand Turk and the beach club at Bimini.

• 17:14Karen Kilgariff?

  As part of the On Air at Sea collection, this immersive sailing brings together fan-favorite podcasts, including Disgrace Land, Buried Bones, and Wise Crack, for live recordings, behind-the-scenes access, exclusive meet-and-greets, and crime-themed programming that you won't find anywhere else.

• 17:31Georgia Hardstark?

  All aboard our award-winning, kid-free ships.

• 17:34Karen Kilgariff?

  Head over to virginvoyages.com/truecrime to secure your spot. Goodbye.