Old Dominion & Michigan Synagogue Terror Attacks | PBD #759

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Ilan Srulovicz break down the Old Dominion University and Temple Israel shootings, rising concerns about security threats in America, the FBI warning of a potential Iranian drone attack targeting California, and the escalating U. S.–Iran conflict including missile strikes, cyberattacks, and $200 oil fears impacting global markets. ------ Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kSVkso⁠ https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: ⁠https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP⁠ https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠https://bit.ly/4lzQph2⁠ https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: ⁠https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj⁠ https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 💬 TEXT US: TEXT “PODCAST” TO 310-340-1132 TO GET THE LATEST UPDATES IN REAL-TIME! ABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:13Speaker 00

  My handshake is better than anything I ever signs, right here.

• 0:17Patrick Bet-David?

  You are a one of one?

• 0:18Speaker 02

  My son's driving.

• 0:19Speaker 00

  I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 0:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Alright, so lots going on as usual. I'm wearing my glasses just dedicated to a good friend of mine, Mehran Asadi. He told me, he says, "Patrick, I've never seen you look better than when you wear these glasses." He tells me I look 15 years younger. Quick shout out to Mehran. Arroy Mehran Asadi. Send this to him, he's gonna get a kick out of this. Love his family, I just don't like his taste. Anyways, alright, so some things to talk about here with the stuff that's going on. Obviously, as much as fun we're having, yesterday wasn't a fun day for a lot of people. There was two terrible incidents that took place in America that is increasing a lot of fear and anxiety and concern for many people, wondering what could happen on any given day. We've heard of it. At

• 1:10Patrick Bet-David?

  this point, you've watched the clips, you've seen what's going on with Old Dominion, with West Bloomfield. We'll cover that, where a shooter came out, Mohammed Baylor Jalal, who came out, 36-year-old, entered a classroom at an ROTC, you know, started up, you know, shooting up the place. I've never seen this many cops. A couple of these clips, you saw there were more cops there than he said this morning than 9/11. Yesterday, we're texting each other, Humberto on a group, he's like, "I've never seen this many cops." At that moment, I'm watching, saying, "Why are there so many cops?" Nobody understood it. Tom is gonna get into it, saying this, he was trying to do a Timothy McVeigh type of a thing, and obviously, we'll cover that. But one of the best parts of the clip is the cadets that came back, and the lady is interviewing,

• 1:53Patrick Bet-David?

  saying what happened to the shooter. They said he was eliminated. Were there shots fired? No. How was he eliminated? And I was like, "What did they do to him?" These two or three cadets got on top of him, and apparently, we'll talk about it. They took him out. And then the other event that we had, at West Bloomfield, 41-year-old. Attacker Aman Mohammed Ghazali, who is from Dearborn Heights, Michigan, you know, he lived at Dearborn Heights, naturalized US citizen, bunch of stories with that one, that's just disturbing when you see this one, another one of those things that was concerning. Ah, Mamdani decided to sit down, have a prayer in New York City while he's doing that, one of the guys puts up the sign of ISIS, if you're familiar with it, we'll show the

• 2:33Patrick Bet-David?

  clip, and at the same time, because all these rich billionaires are leaving, because of all these wealthy people are leaving, New York's about to get another run of people leaving, because now he's asking about death taxes, and he wants to raise it for rich people, that if you die, you have to see the numbers they're proposing, like logically, this doesn't make sense, even poor and middle-income families wouldn't vote for the same, we don't want these guys to leave, I want these guys to stay and keep reinvesting the money into the city, instead of leaving and give the money to the US, to the government in New York City, it's not like they know how to manage the money, you want me to give you the money, the people that know how to waste it and lose job, that's what you want to do? You are delusional, but that's exactly what Mamdani is doing, we'll cover that, Starbucks

• 3:18Patrick Bet-David?

  and Howard Schultz is leaving Seattle to Miami, Rob, if I'm not mistaken, with Starbucks, so some of you guys, if you don't like Starbucks, you can complain in Miami, because you'll be down the street here, Yamaha's leaving California, and after being there for, I don't know what the number was, 57 years, Rob, 50-plus years that they were in California, deciding to leave, Newsom, there was a clip of Newsom criticizing Trump, why, look at the, what he's doing, and pa, pa, pa, pa, pa, if there's anybody in America as a politician who has zero moral authority to criticize a president, it's you, Newsom, this is how much moral authority you got, guy, good-looking guy, well-spoken, I'm sure it's fun having dinner with you, talking sports, and, you know, all the other conversations, because

• 4:02Patrick Bet-David?

  you can, you can tell he's a biz dev guy, right, you know, the way he moves his hands, Vinny loves the way Newsom moves his hands.

• 4:08Speaker 03

  I don't know what you're talking about, Pat.

• 4:09Patrick Bet-David?

  But you know what, though, Vinny?

• 4:10Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:11Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm just like you.

• 4:12Speaker 03

  Oh, I'm dumb as hell. I don't know how to read. Just like you.

• 4:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Just like you. And it was a very big, award-winning book that came out that he collaborated with Vinny. Rob, if you want to get that, somebody have a picture of that book copy, send over to you that we can show in a minute.

• 4:25Speaker 03

  I'll send it to Rob.

• 4:26Patrick Bet-David?

  When it comes down to it, we will. Dear Abby, sweetheart of a girl, had to apologize again, and I'm sure she loved it. As she apologized on what happened, we'll cover that story as well. On top of that, I got a couple of stories to show you guys. About father-son relationships. We're probably gonna get, you know, I haven't shown these clips. These guys haven't seen it. Later on today, I will show it because some fathers, a lot of us that want to be better fathers, every day we wake up failing, but we want to do our best. There's not a perfect father and a parent out there. I want to show a couple of these clips. Uh, and one of them is from Brian Dennehy. You guys remember Brian Dennehy, the actor? If you see his face, Tom knows who he is. And another one is from Billy Bob Thornton. Hopefully, we'll get into that.

• 5:08Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, I know.

• 5:08Patrick Bet-David?

  To, uh, yeah, everybody knows.

• 5:10Speaker 03

  Remember the coach?

• 5:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Phenomenal, phenomenal actor. Uh, some stats for people to know as well before we get into it in the market this morning. Oil, all we saw yesterday is 0.1 to $100 a barrel this morning. I think it's at 92, 93-ish hovering over that. Tom just gave us the update. Dow, S and P, Nasdaq, everything is up a half a point today. Yesterday, a trillion dollars of wealth was lost on the market. A lot of people are saying, is this gonna continue? Is it gonna keep going down? Three ships were hit, I believe, yesterday. At Strait of Hormuz. One is from Thailand. The other two, uh, I don't know what it was, but we'll cover that today as we get into the facts. And then aside from that, I talked about the cargo ships. I talked about the market. We talked about the shooter. We talked about, uh, the total death toll for US Americans right now is at 11.

• 5:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, with four crew members killed in a KC 30, uh, 135 refueling plane crash in Iraq that just took place. Total death toll of what Iran is reporting is 1,444 from the US Israeli strikes since February 28th. With 18,551 injured. This is coming from them, including ages 8 to 88. And we have to talk about the shooting of that, uh, uh, girl's school of 160. 87 young girls that were killed and a couple of other staffers. We'll talk about that as well. Devastating news when that happens breaks my heart because as a kid living in Iran, I remember going to an all-boys school and right next to us was an all-girls school.

• 6:36Patrick Bet-David?

  And you know, you just don't want to hear stories like that and it's devastating when you hear stories like that. Lebanon fatalities climbed to 687. I believe Dubai, a property or hotel was also hit yesterday in Dubai if I'm not mistaken. Rob, can you correct me on that? I saw one drone hit it, but they were able to get rid of the fire fairly quickly. I don't know if you guys saw that clip or not, Vinnie. With that, fact-check me on that, Rob. And with that being said, we got a bunch of other stories we'll get into. God willing, if we have the time. I think today we do have the time. We may go a little longer today, so stick around with us. Rob, which one is this for SLS?

• 7:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh, this is building rock stars.

• 7:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, building rock stars. Okay, so if you're somebody that's running a sales organization and you're running a business and you want to find a way to improve your sales team, results, activity in better systems, better comp, better strategies, better innovative campaigns, and knowing who to work with, who not to work with, identify what clients are better clients for you and develop that culture within your guys. We host an event once a year called the Sales Leadership Summit and this guy in the video is going to explain it to you.

• 7:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Every great sales team has three different types of people on its team. The finder, the closer, the builder. Every once in a while, you have a trifecta that does all three. Let me explain to you what this means. Finders are great prospectors. They'll go out and find clients, no problems, but they're not good at closing. Closers, put somebody in front of me, I'll close them, but I'm not good at prospecting. Builders, if they become a client, they're very good at retaining, developing relationships, all of that. And if you can develop trifectas that do all three, your company is doing numbers you've never seen before. The last 25 years, I have worked on developing people that are trifectas. If you want to learn how to develop trifectas on your sales team, one year I hosted an event called the Sales Leadership Summit.

• 8:21Patrick Bet-David?

  This year's going to be March 25th through the 27th at Trump Doral. If you want to learn more about how you and your team can attend that event, click on the link below. One of our representatives will get ahold of you. There you go. Click on the link below. Go to the QR code. We'd love to spend a couple of days with you. And there may be possibilities afterwards of doing some stuff that I can only announce to the people that are going there, but if you're running an organization doing over a million with five salespeople, you want to improve it. Come spend a couple of days with us. You're going to be in a room with all performers in the sales business. So it's everybody that's the best in their industry. Could be insurance, could be real estate, could be AI, could be whatever. You're networking with those guys as well, but you have to do a minimum of a million. Fill out the information. Somebody will get ahold of you. Let's get right into it. Terror suspect

• 9:06Patrick Bet-David?

  in deadly Old Dominion shooting in Virginia was subdued by students, officials say. Rob, I believe you got a clip on this one. Yeah, let's get right into it. And there there's a bunch to be talked about with this. Is this the clip? Where the lady is asked, was there any shots fired to eliminate her? This is it? Go ahead and play this clip. Watch this, folks, from the FBI.

• 9:25Tom Ellsworth?

  This is her.

• 9:29Speaker 05

  The, there were students in that room that subdued him and rendered him no longer alive. I don't know how else to say it, but they basically were able to terminate the threat.

• 9:43Speaker 06

  So he was not shot?

• 9:45Speaker 05

  He was not shot.

• 9:46Speaker 06

  He shot three people?

• 9:49Speaker 05

  Uh, correct. We have information that he shot three people.

• 9:52Speaker 06

  The one that went to Virginia.

• 9:54Patrick Bet-David?

  So he was not shot, but he was killed. Apparently, these guys, the cadets, killed the guy. I think they were stabbed and we'll get into that. Let me first talk about this and then I'm going to come to you guys here. Mohammed Mohammed Baylor Jalloh. Rob, if you can pull up the clip of Mohammed Baylor Jalloh. Is this the fellow that used to be in the military, if I'm not mistaken, or is that the other one? There's one of them that served. If you want to get that picture. Thirty-six-year-old Army National Guard. Entered a classroom with Army ROTC members and opened fire. He fatally shot ROTC instructor Lieutenant Colonel Brandon Shaw. I want to make sure we recognize the Lieutenant Colonel Brandon Shaw. A Lieutenant Colonel my life

• 10:36Patrick Bet-David?

  changed my life. He's one of the top five men that I respect. So you don't become a Lieutenant Colonel by luck. That's a lot of work to get to. A person like this, so may God, may he rest in peace. Our prayers goes out to he and his family, all of those things you see for somebody to become like this. That means he positively impacted a lot, a lot of young men and women's lives. And he protected us to be able to do, if you're free today, it's because of men like him. So I want to make sure we honor him properly. He was fatally shot. Our ROTC cadets in the room rushed to the gunman and stopped the attack. The cadets subdued him and killed him before the police got there. Died from stab wounds inflicted during the fight. And I can go into a few other things here on how quickly happened, but I'll get right into it.

• 11:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, what do we know about the story and what opinions you have about it?

• 11:24Tom Ellsworth?

  I have some pretty strong opinions about it. The first strong opinion I have is that the vigilance of the people who refused to be in that classroom and be victims. Who refused to stand by, who jumped up into action and prevented further deaths. And you, you know, it's very, very gory. It was a stabbing death, but the answer was they used what they had to neutralize the victim. Then he, that's, you see it like that?

• 11:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 11:49Tom Ellsworth?

  They used what they had. So my applaud to the people and everywhere in America, you got to keep your head on a swivel. Look around, be vigilant and be ready. So I have a strong opinion about that. I have an equally and even stronger opinion about the background on this. And I, and I'll stand down and let other people talk to it. Is that we knew about this. We knew what this guy, once again, the family knew, other people knew. He was in the justice system. He had been subject to, I'm talking about the assailant, the killer, the now rendered non-living guy. He was part of that and he was radicalized. So the two themes I see is he was radicalized.

• 12:33Tom Ellsworth?

  And then he ended up in the justice system for things he was doing when radicalized. And then released and we didn't do anything about it. And I, and here we go again. Here we go. Could have been prevented. It's like when family members have, have psychotic episodes and people knew about it and didn't do anything. They get their arms, they get their hands on a weapon. Trans dad shoots members of his family. This guy, it just, it disgusts me.

• 13:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, let me read this to you.

• 13:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Could have been avoided.

• 13:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Was a former member of the Army National Guard National, but it gets to the point here. He received an honorable discharge with a six-year commitment ended. A defense lawyer for Jalo wrote in court filing in July of 2016. The Justice Department announced that Jalo was arrested for attempting to provide material support to the Islamic State. About a month before his arrest, the department said Jalo had traveled to North Carolina and made multiple unsuccessful attempts to obtain firearms. He was taken into custody by FBI agents a day after he bought and testified a 5.56 millimeter stag arms or assault rifle at Northern Virginia gun store. The department said in a news release at the time, unbeknownst to Jalo, the rifle

• 13:48Patrick Bet-David?

  was rendered inoperable before he left the dealership with the weapon. According to the news release, Jalo was arrested the following day and FBI seized the rifle. Jalo was sentenced to 11 years in prison. After five years supervised release in February 2017, he ended up, I think, doing five or seven years. I've heard seven, this is five by USA Today. Prosecutors argued at the time that the 20-year sentence, prison sentence for Jalo would be appropriate. They wrote in a court filing about his potential sentence that he attempted to help the Islamic State in a host of ways, including providing the group with funds and trying to organize weapons and personnel. So, Vinny, when you see something like this, what should have been done with him at the time?

• 14:31Speaker 03

  I mean, let's just, again, you're arrested for terrorism. If you're supporting and you're sending money to ISIS, you are a terrorist. You're not actively shooting or anything, but you're assisting people that are. And apparently, the guy that was involved with him that was ISIS was killed, okay? And then, so, a West African from Sierra Leone joins our military, naturalized, whatever all that process is, he's supposed to do 20 years, Rob, okay? Then he's serving time, and then the Biden administration releases him early, doesn't deport him to wherever the hell he came from. You let him stay in this country. Guys, I used to drink a lot, and I'm recovered, and I don't drink anymore, okay? When it comes to stuff like this, you don't recover from terrorists, okay?

• 15:15Speaker 03

  Just, no, just like these pedophiles, where they're like, no. They could go back to society. No, you can't. That is a sickness that you cannot just wipe off. You can't just sponge that. And it's the same thing with this guy, Pat. And I'm, I don't hate to be this guy, but I have to say it. If your name is Mohammed and you're from that country and your belief, and that's your belief. When you swear to serve into our military, first of all, you can't be the president unless you were born in this country. Okay, so why should it be with everybody else? And I'm sorry, I guess the Muslim attendance in the military is what? Less than point 1%? We have a different God. When you swear and you swore to defend this country for enemies, foreign and domestic. And you swear, say, so help me God, we don't have the same God.

• 15:57Speaker 03

  And if you're radicalized and you're freaking representing ISIS, I'm sorry, they need to change the rules. Because if it's less than 1% and your God isn't the same God that we serve, I'm sorry, you can't serve.

• 16:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Elon, I want to come to you, but before I don't want to play this clip. Rob, if you want to pull up the clip about what the FBI said that he screamed at the, is this it, Rob? Go for it.

• 16:16Speaker 05

  Was an act of terrorism. I can tell you that we have confirmed reports that prior to him conducting this act of terrorism, he shouted or stated Allah Akbar. And he was formerly a subject of a FBI investigation in material supporting terrorism.

• 16:38Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, just so you know, so he screams Allah Akbar. He apparently tried to donate $500 to ISIS. He had no clue the person he was donating to wasn't ISIS, it was the FBI and he got caught. So we know what his background is Allah Akbar. Elon, where are you at with this?

• 16:54Speaker 07

  Number one, I agree with you, Tom. I think this is why people lose trust in our institutions. We see someone who should be in prison for a very long time let out very quickly. Thing it points to a massive ideological problem in our country, just stuff that we're not taking seriously. Kind of what Vinnie touched on, there's radical extremists being fundamentalized in our own country. It's happening here. It's not happening overseas. It's happening in our country and we're not doing anything about it. We're completely distracted from it. There's been over 100,000 radical Islamist attacks since 9/11 worldwide. This is a global ideological issue. We're putting our head in the sand. I work in this space, so I work to try and raise awareness about Christians who are persecuted. There's hundreds of millions of Christians who are persecuted in the world. Nine out of 10 of the countries that persecute Christians the most are Muslim countries with radical Islamists.

• 17:39Speaker 07

  If you think this is isolated to those countries and it's not coming here, you're mistaken. We have lax borders, we have universities that are fundamentalizing people. And we now have a very disturbing thing happening, which is a unity between this leftist ideology, radical Islamists, and scary, most scary of all, because I knew that that was happening for years. But what we're seeing now is this horseshoe effect of even the right, people on the right, coming on board. You have guys like Tucker who went and spent his time at TPUSA lecturing us on Islamophobia, telling us Sharia law isn't so bad. And then you wonder why in our country we have things like this happening. We are putting our head in the sand. We have to listen to the people in our country who tell us to our faces that they want us dead.

• 18:21Speaker 07

  They're telling us, they're doing it out in the open, and we're here and we're saying, oh, no, no, they don't really mean it. They mean it. They're showing us, they're doing it, and they're telling us.

• 18:29Patrick Bet-David?

  I agree. I agree. So why be, if I'm telling you how I feel about, by the way, while this is going on, like, we're gonna get into the Iran story, but when you see something like this, the temperature right now, as we go to the next story with Michigan, with Wes Bloomfield, people are a little bit uneasy today. Something weird is going on right now. We were talking about it earlier this morning while we're doing the prep on time. Um, is, there's a, there's a feeling of, you know, if I go out, the FBI comes out and says, hey, be careful when you're going to the synagogue, you know, be careful to the Jewish community because, you know, you're being targeted, right? Then we hear the story about FBI saying, be careful with California because Iran may be doing something, a California attack.

• 19:14Patrick Bet-David?

  So just kind of keep an eye for that. Everyone's like, wait a minute, is this America? Is this, is this really, is this happening to everybody? So, but at the same time, the challenge with this is, there's also people that watch, like, for, if you watch our content, let me tell you the profile of the people that watch our content. If you watch our content, 90%, you ready, you're pro-family?

• 19:36Patrick Bet-David?

  You're pro-faith, you probably have a faith, I'm a Christian myself openly, but you probably are church going or you have a faith. Number three, you're hardworking, maybe you run a business, you have some dreams, you want to do something big, or maybe you're a Fortune 500 CEO. We know a lot of these guys we speak to, they watch the content. You're looking for a reasonable thought feedback. You know what our positions are, you know where we lie, but we don't have an emotional audience. So you, you know what, we have to go do this and retaliate and these people are evil. Let me go take them out. There's, there's, there's some messages that comes out where emotions are so high, where people are, are these people evil? Let me go take them out.

• 20:20Patrick Bet-David?

  This could be CNN, this could be some mainstream media, this could be some YouTubers podcasts, or this could be some streamers, and young kids are watching saying, oh my God, they're evil. I'm gonna go do what's good and I'm gonna take these evil people out. You're walking around like, is that really the message you want in America? How do you think somebody goes from zero to 100, you know, blood boiling? Let me go do something because these guys are bad people. Is that really how we should approach this? Really? While we know another regime in Iran is flat out, you know what they've been saying this week? They, they came out this week, and they said, I don't want to spend a lot of time on this, I'm gonna go to the next story. Iranian government came out and said, the Iran's team, men's team is not going to compete in the World Cup because we're worried for their safety.

• 21:05Patrick Bet-David?

  No, you're not. No, you're not. The safest people Iranian World Cup soccer team is? Any city in the world except for Tehran, Iran. Any country is safer for them than Iran. They're, they're the least safe if they're in Iran. You're afraid of them going to the World Cup because on the international stage, on camera, they may not repeat your national anthem, and everyone's gonna say, holy, you're embarrassed of what they could do to you. That's what you're worried about, you're not worried about their unsafety. They're gonna be safer in New York than they're gonna be in Tehran. They're, they're gonna be safer in New York than they're gonna be in Abadan, or Shiraz, or Esfahan. They're gonna be safer in Miami than they're gonna be in any of those other places. You don't think they would like to be here?

• 21:51Patrick Bet-David?

  You, you, you think they're proud right now seeing their own government killing their own people? You're killing your own people. You know what they're saying the last three, four days? Anybody that's saying anything, we're coming for you. If you resist, they're, they're doing curfew, Vinny. People are coming to stops. They're pulling you over and saying, where are you going? What are you doing? Who posted this? What pictures do you have on your phone? Let me see your phone. Can you imagine they're like, let me, why did you take this picture? Come with us to jail. If you took, like, imagine like right now you see a post and you take a screenshot of the post. They're gonna look at your phone saying, why'd you take, why'd you take a screenshot of this? Why, why, why did you like this post? Why, why, why are you following this person? That's where it's got, there, there's a video I'll send you here in a minute of an Iranian guy. Matter of fact, I'll send this to you. It's a CNN clip.

• 22:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Where the lady's talking about it and she's saying flat out, I hope I have this clip. I don't know if I saved it or not. I'll, I'll find it for you in a minute to send it to you, Rob. If you see it in my notes, no, you don't have it. I didn't save it. Anyways. It's the one that you showed me? It's one I found this morning. I'll find it and send it to you guys. Iranians right now are worried because what they're trying to do, the government is trying to say, I dare you. By the way, do you know who else they're threatening Iranians? Look how bold they've gotten. They're threatening Iranians in the diaspora. They're saying, wait a minute, if you don't even live here, but you're out and you're saying this or defending, we're coming after you as well. They're putting the fear everywhere to see how they're gonna react. And you wanna sit around and make sure this regime exists?

• 23:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, yeah, like, yeah, let, let's just keep them there? I, I, I think it's a slippery slope when we're seeing how these guys are reacting. I'll come to you.

• 23:26Speaker 07

  Well, I have a question for you. I wanted to ask you something.

• 23:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 23:29Speaker 07

  Uh, I'm just wondering where this apathy toward everything you're talking about is coming from, from the international stage and the international community, if you have insight on that.

• 23:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Where it's coming from?

• 23:38Speaker 07

  The apathy, the absolute apathy toward it.

• 23:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, you, you, when you're saying apathy, to me, uh, uh, when you break down how, uh, everyone fights in a different way, right? So for instance, when I ran a business.

• 23:54Patrick Bet-David?

  There were guys who just would go to work at Rama Insurance Company. They would go to work. They would prospect, they would build their business, they would develop insurance agents and they would build an agency and make money, but their head was down. The way they beat their competition was by their head being down and just going in maximize the comp plan, right?

• 24:11Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 24:11Patrick Bet-David?

  It's like in America, you have a tax system, go maximize the tax system in your favor, make as much money as you want to, protect your family. Then there are those who played to make sure you didn't beat them. So let's just say you're working 80 hours a week, I only want to work 40 hours a week. I don't like the fact that you're beating me, so I would do the play deception within your team and make sure your clients don't like you, your agents don't like you. And then that was also effective. We had guys like that that didn't. We called them out publicly 24/7.

• 24:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Right now, if you don't have a strong military like we have, if you don't have access to the resources that we have, you have to make sure you divide America, and that's what they're doing.

• 24:51Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 24:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Go look at the power of social media. Go look at what they're doing with streamers. Go look at what they're doing with different podcasters. What do you do with them? Pin them against each other, pay them. You know, have the opportunity to go out there and say, this guy's doing this. There's a lot of that going on right now in America and we have to be careful with that. The reality of it is, it is super, super effective and a lot of people are falling for it. For the people that are the reasonable people, we all have opinions. I have my own opinions. You have your own beliefs on what you believe in. We all have that. None of us are innocent that we don't have that. But you have to sit there and ask yourself,

• 25:29Patrick Bet-David?

  you have to sit there and ask yourself, am I being targeted with manipulation and like a video with Netanyahu went out and Vinnie this morning showed it to us. That was an AI video, right?

• 25:41Speaker 03

  From why, what I checked on Grok, it was Bibi Netanyahu addressing, I guess, they said it was his first address after, since the war in Iran and as his hands are moving, by the way, it looked, you, I was sold that this was it. Apparently he had six fingers on one, on one hand. And so Rob, if you go to chat, go to, go to Grok and ask Grok, say, is this, okay, if you just find the video, because this is Alec Jones's.

• 26:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 26:06Speaker 03

  If you say, if you just find the video, uh, Bibi, that's not it.

• 26:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Anyways.

• 26:12Speaker 03

  That one right there, Robbie, if you just, yeah, go to Grok and say, is this AI because I saw six fingers?

• 26:18Speaker 07

  But look, it's already circulating all over the internet.

• 26:20Speaker 03

  No, but it's, what?

• 26:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 26:21Speaker 03

  Yes, I am, no, Karak is so stupid. Say, is the video of BB AI? Because, bro, trust me, I watched it. If, if this is AI, it is ridiculously good.

• 26:30Speaker 07

  You have to type it on the actual post, I think, as a reply. At Grok, is this video real?

• 26:38Speaker 03

  No, it'll actually do it on the right, too.

• 26:39Speaker 07

  It will?

• 26:40Speaker 03

  Yeah, because that'll just have Rob.

• 26:41Patrick Bet-David?

  While you're doing that, Rob, while you're doing that, by the way, whether it's real or not, anything you're watching, double, triple verify the credibility of the videos. We're watching some of these things, and we're like, oh, my God. And like, let me go on the bottom. Oh, Grok, this is AI. Oh, my God, there's no way this is real. Oh, this is real. So, double verify. Rob, I just sent you this clip. Uh, this is the one I want you to watch. Look what they're doing in Iran right now. By the way, this is CNN reporting on this. Go for it. This is what this man is saying right now. Go ahead.

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• 27:56Speaker 05

  ... has been issued. That was just one of the many threats we have seen in... The order for their execution has been issued. That was just one of the many threats we have seen in the past few days coming from Iranian officials and state media figures.

• 28:16Speaker 05

  As the regime faces America and Israel from the sky, it is clearly worried about the threat from within and doing everything it can to ensure that people will not rise up again. The chief of police warned Iranians, essentially saying protesters will be treated as the enemy and shot.

• 28:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Our team have their fingers on the trigger, ready to defend the Islamic revolution and support our people and our homeland.

• 28:40Speaker 05

  We've been hearing from people inside the country. Not only are they under intense US and Israeli bombardment, there's also this increased atmosphere of fear. Checkpoints everywhere, many arrests. Anyone speaking out or sharing photos and videos is accused of collaborating with the enemy. This is a ruthless regime that has always used force to silence Iranians. But this time, the threats have become near daily and they're doing all this so openly. And they're threatening Iranians in the diaspora with legal orders to confiscate property, to go after them, and even worse.

• 29:19Patrick Bet-David?

  We will make your mothers mourn you. This message is for you, both inside and outside the country.

• 29:24Speaker 05

  With President Donald Trump's mixed messages on this war and where it's all headed, many Iranians worry that the regime will survive. And at the end of this, they'll be left all alone to deal with the consequences.

• 29:38Patrick Bet-David?

  There you go.

• 29:39Speaker 03

  If you protest against the regime, we will treat you as the enemy and shoot you dead.

• 29:45Patrick Bet-David?

  They're already doing that.

• 29:46Speaker 03

  They did it. I mean, we objectively know that they'll massacre tens of thousands of people. For 47 years, they've been doing it. It's one of the reasons why he's in the United States and why my entire family is here. But I don't think people grasp. People just see this type of stuff and they go by. This is who runs the country. If they know that you're posting something or you're just speaking out, like, dude, that's just saying this in public. Yeah, I don't think our government's doing, you know, they're kind of killing us. They're gonna kill you. I don't, people just don't get it. They don't understand because you've never lived it.

• 30:16Patrick Bet-David?

  So there's, so there's levels to evil, right? So you know how, uh, uh, the moment you become a world leader, you, you have to...

• 30:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Understand you don't uh you can't do all the things like to be a good Christian or to be a good man of faith. A world leader can't do that. Yeah. And let me explain what I mean by this. I know some people are like, what are you talking about? So if you're a world leader, if you tell the truth, you will be fired. If you tell the truth, you're not going to get reelected. If you tell the truth, it could cost your people lives. Why? Actually, think about the processing of the job of somebody to be at that level. You can't be a regular person. Yeah. You have to have a side of yours to realize every day they're trying to kill you. Every day mess is happening. Every day chaos is happening, right?

• 31:10Patrick Bet-David?

  So then you're going up against guys like this. Guys that are trying to take you out, guys that are trying to do all these evil things. What do you do with that? Are you are you going to go out there and just, well, you know what? This is what I think we're going to be doing. No, this is a very, very weird time today. A very, very weird time today and what's going to be happening. So for me, when you see what's going on with Iran, this is the point I was going to make. So there are those that let's go through levels of nobility of leaders from the most noble to the least noble. The most noble wants no wars, wants no conflict, wants nothing, right? Let everybody be their own people. Okay, great. Maybe that model works if your country was founded on peace and you never attack anybody. Like who? Dubai doesn't attack anybody.

• 31:55Patrick Bet-David?

  They're just a country come make money, leave. Singapore is not known for that. Costa Rica, when's the last time you heard about Costa Rica's secret intelligence? You know, yeah, I say you Costa Rica's intelligence is off the charts. No, they have spider monkeys. Costa Rica is a very different type of place. Norway, Finland, Sweden. That's right. So their model is what? We don't want any problems. Yeah. This is who we are. Guess what? If you want that model, America lost the ability to ever be that ever again. We kind of have a history of expanding and taking over a lot of different properties and territories. Guess what? Scaramucci was here two days ago. He's like, well, what about America? We took over Mexico and California and all this stuff. And then Brandon's like, so what? You want to apologize for it? Well, we've been expanding a little too much.

• 32:40Patrick Bet-David?

  You're the beneficiary of the fact that we've expanded so much, right? Okay, so guess what? America has hated because we've won a little too much. Great. But you want to be a noble one. The next one is, we only kill our enemies if they attack us. The next one is, we kill our enemies whether they attack us or not. The next one is, psyop, operation, manipulation, doing all that stuff. What's the most evil thing a country can do? Kill its own people. Kill its own people! What is above that? Nothing. You're wanting to kill your own kids! You're wanting to kill your own people! Give me a regime above that. Yes, there's other evils below it. Of course. But tell me what's evil above killing your own people? Yeah. This is the logic when you sit there and talk to some...

• 33:22Patrick Bet-David?

  But you don't understand, they were behind this and these guys were behind this and that guy was behind this. Who was behind killing... Did they make them kill their own people? Why are you making me do this, honey? You're making me slap you in the face? Kids, why are you making me do this? Hey Iranians, why are you making us do this? We have to kill you. Nobody needs to say anything. They're killing their own people and they're saying it on TV. If you do this, we're gonna kill you. Let me get to the next story here. While this happened at Old Dominion, there was an event also at West Bloomfield. Rob, if you want to pull this up, and Elon, I'm gonna come to you first on this one here. Attacker Aman Mohammed Ghazali, 41 years old, was a naturalized US citizen, originally born in Lebanon. He lived in Dearborn Heights, Michigan before the attack.

• 34:06Patrick Bet-David?

  The attack occurred at 12:19, March 12, 2026, which I believe it's yesterday. The vehicle caught fire inside the building. A security guard engaged the attacker and shot him. Thirty law enforcement officers were hospitalized for smoking inhalation from the fire. Roughly 140 children and staff were inside the synagogue. What happened here, Elon? Uh, yeah, he rammed a...

• 34:27Speaker 07

  Supposedly he had a bunch of explosives in the back of his car. He's trying to take out the synagogue. It's pretty scary stuff. I always say this, that Jews are a harbinger of things to come. When Jews are under attack, it's a sign of society in decay. The attacker was a Lebanese naturalized citizen again. Same kind of situation came in, obviously with the intent to cause mass damage. It's tragic and we're seeing, this is kind of a repeated issue. I always point to this as, this is not, I know a lot of people don't feel connected to this because they go, I don't go to synagogue, I'm not a Jew, this doesn't affect me. Jews are the primary target, they're not the last target, they're the first target. And people have to understand this is an American problem. This is not just a Jewish problem. Like I said, there's something wrong and sick in society today.

• 35:12Speaker 07

  We were talking about it earlier. And this is, again, it's just escalating. This is happening, there's been four terrorist attacks in the past like week in the United States. This is not normal.

• 35:21Patrick Bet-David?

  It's gonna get higher. Rob, you want to play this clip real quick?

• 35:23Speaker 03

  I thought this was AI. I thought this was AI.

• 35:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Is it or not?

• 35:26Speaker 03

  No, that's real.

• 35:26Speaker 07

  This is the one where all the police were, by the way. This is crazy.

• 35:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Play this clip? Yeah, I've never seen, have you ever been, seen this many cops at a place?

• 35:35Speaker 03

  At this point, I thought it was AI. Like at this point, at this point, I'm like, wait a minute. How many?

• 35:41Patrick Bet-David?

  This is bomb squad at this temple, Israel synagogue in West Bloomfield. Go back to the other reporting, Rob, from Fox. And what do you have there? That's, go ahead.

• 35:48Speaker 07

  Officials say Ghazali drove a truck right through the doors of the Temple Israel synagogue. More than 100 kids were inside, babies to five-year-old children. As the attacker had a rifle and some sort of explosive device that ended up setting the truck on fire inside of the building. But before the suspect was able to do any more damage, on-site security guards shot him. Officials say one of those security guards was hit by the truck, knocked unconscious, but is expected to be okay. And around 30 law enforcement officers were

• 36:19Speaker 05

  hospitalized for smoke inhalation, but officials say there's no doubt.

• 36:22Speaker 07

  Can I say one thing about this that's gonna piss, this pisses me off. I can already guarantee you, there's people already looking to play this as some kind of false flag, there's, and nothing anymore can be blamed on the people who actually do things. Jews have become the ultimate distraction for any terrorism, any negative thing that happens in the country. Charlie Kirk's death was a perfect opportunity to look at the hundreds of thousands of leftists who celebrated his death, instead it, and, and target them and say, there's a problem in our country, right away became about Jews. You have ISIS attacks in our country, right away becomes about Jews. Now we have synagogues being attacked, and I can guarantee you, it will right away become about some kind of false flag. We will never deal with the problem so long as we are distracted by this modern day obsessive sickness that everything is

• 37:06Speaker 07

  the Jews. I think it's a big problem, so.

• 37:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Tom. Even our own FBI, I was disappointed to see the FBI says, yeah, this appears to be a targeted act. What do you mean targeted act? Any assault against any person targets them, whether they're innocent, or you didn't like their faith, their color, their, where they came from, what they said, or the way they looked at you. It's like, it's a targeted act of violence. Why don't you say this? This vehicle, and this has been confirmed, multiple reports, we got CNN reporting, New York Post reporting, ABC reporting, that the vehicle was loaded with explosives that did not detonate. This is Timothy McVeigh in a smaller car. And these people weren't targeting the government, they were targeting a synagogue, where people

• 37:53Tom Ellsworth?

  are, but this, they are so fortunate that this didn't go up. This was supposed to go up. When you can see where the car rammed into it, and they were inside, and the officers were in the corridors there, and they didn't have proper equipment, and all the heavy smoke came out, they were treated for smoke inhalation, but Pat, we are so lucky that there is a bit of amateurishness on the fact that this individual, you know, the way he designed this, it didn't go off, because it was set. It was set to be just like a Timothy McVeigh. Can you imagine? We would have been looking at the helicopter pictures here. of this massive hole in the center and extreme loss of life in the inside and potential

• 38:34Tom Ellsworth?

  impact on the first responders depending on when it went off but what gets me is our own FBI can't even say hey this this is a terrorist act we have been spending the last six years talking about what is the definition Vinnie help me here I'm not trying to rev you up but help me domestic terrorists I will defend the country against all enemies foreign and domestic yeah this was a domestic terrorist why can't the FBI say that it bugs me Pat oh it was a targeted act every act of violence is a targeted act there is a target and there's a perpetrator I I don't get it why can't you just say terrorist act domestic terrorism

• 39:14Speaker 03

  just to give some context because obviously I was I was looking at this all night Rob I don't think this was completely random it wasn't just so hey we're gonna go try to kill Jewish people apparently investigators saw this guy posted photos of his family members who were killed in a when Israel attacked Lebanon they Israel strike the town of Masgada in the Becca Valley the strike killed four members of this guy's family allegedly including his brother and the brother's two children so his nieces and nephew Ali and Fatima and I guess that that attack killed 123 people dead I don't know the details about the attack so they're saying that this attack was a revenge attack obviously it's still horrible because you're trying to go kill human beings which is no freaking excuse but Pat I I hope

• 39:59Speaker 03

  people understand guys this is where we're going the the stage of war that we're at with Iran this is going to happen with Israel with all the bombings that we're doing because when the enemy can't defeat you on the battlefield the battlefield they bring it to you okay and what we have to understand is Israel is protected by the Iron Dome I know you guys Pat we're gonna talk about the hundreds of missiles that are coming from Hezbollah and all that stuff the majority of them stop them but you know what Israel doesn't have that insider threat meaning that how many people does Israel let into their country less than I think they're 9.7 million Israel lets in a very small number of people you know where the biggest problem is gonna be right here and I'm not a fear point guy Just saying, guys, get ready and hold the line because it's gonna happen here. You know why?

• 40:43Speaker 03

  Because for four years, for four years, Alejandro Mayorkas led in 20 million people and 2 million of them, they have no idea where the hell they are. Okay, so Israel has the dome and, you know, we're knocking out all the stuff that they can deal with that's missiles and all that stuff. But Tom, this threat, the threat that we have inside when people looked in the camera and said, "Soon you will know my name." That's the new front of the war. And Pat just said it perfectly. This is just the beginning. This isn't gonna stop. So whatever we're doing all over the world, I hope people know the consequences, Tom, are gonna happen here because the last administration let them in and I'm gonna say this. They did it on purpose. They did it on purpose. Alejandro Mayorkas sat there in front of Congress and said, with that, with that face,

• 41:28Speaker 03

  "No, the border's closed. The border's secure. The border's closed." BS. And that guy's walking scot-free.

• 41:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Vinny, you use the phrase "fear porn." Don't use that phrase and let people clip your words on it.

• 41:38Speaker 03

  Oh, no.

• 41:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Because you're not, because it's not fear porn. No, I'm backing you up. I'm backing you up. Our own president said sleeper cell. Our own FBI has said sleeper cell. Our own, you know, state militias and police are using sleeper cell. That's not fear porn. That's messaging coming from our own government.

• 41:55Speaker 03

  Yeah, but, but because Pat, that's, that's the truth of it, right? They, these people are here. Millions of them are here. So whatever we're doing or whoever our allies are doing, whatever, they can't beat us there, Pat. We're superior. Guess what they're gonna do it? Synagogues, they're gonna do, shoot up ROTC places.

• 42:10Speaker 07

  Churches, by the way. There was, there, and no one talks about the church shootings and, and church vandalism that happens in the United States or worldwide. There are hundreds of churches that are constantly under direct threat. Nobody, there was a church shot in Kentucky, uh, last year, not that long ago. A guy wearing a kaffiyah, leftist, got no media, no news attention. No one cared. Yeah, it's very weird.

• 42:30Patrick Bet-David?

  This is what Trump said about sleeper cells. Go ahead, Rob.

• 42:34Patrick Bet-David?

  And if they try to hit us that, have you been briefed about how many Iran sleeper cells there could be inside the US right now? I have been.

• 42:44Speaker 06

  And a lot of people came in through Biden with his stupid open borders. But we know where most of them are. We've got our eye on all of them, I think. It's a dozen. They came in through the open border policies of sleepy Joe Biden. One of the worst, the worst president in the history of our country. And we've got our eyes on all of them, but the war itself is being prosecuted at a level that nobody's seen before. It's pretty, it's pretty amazing.

• 43:15Speaker 03

  How do you process that? He's, he's saying that he know, we know where all these sleeper cells are.

• 43:21Speaker 06

  Have our eye on them.

• 43:22Speaker 03

  Yeah, we have our eye on them. Like, how do you? If you know that they're sleeper cells and you know that they're terrorists, what are we waiting? Why would you leave them alone? But I'm imagining, like, why, why would you? If you know where these people are, you just have your eye on them?

• 43:35Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I don't know the legality of what they need before they can go take him out or arrest them. I don't know what, uh, uh, jurisdiction they have to go, whether they can only watch him. Well, you know how sometimes it's like, well, we can't go take him out or we can't sue him. So I, I don't, I don't know what they have to go do that. But the reality of it is, they're here. And Iran, if Iran, do you think the IRGC relates to the cartel in Mexico? Do you think they have some things in common in the way?

• 44:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Absolutely.

• 44:06Speaker 07

  Even Hezbollah.

• 44:07Tom Ellsworth?

  They wait for the smoke to clear and then their, their horror and their terror when they're unchecked will be on the people.

• 44:13Patrick Bet-David?

  They can, they can work with them to come up and do things if they're not already inside. They have so many different things that they're on the inside with. I mean, look, the reality, you know how far inside they're in? Uh, uh, they're so far inside that they have the mayor of the biggest city in America.

• 44:27Speaker 07

  Mamdani.

• 44:28Patrick Bet-David?

  On his knees, praying with other ISIS members, throwing ISIS signs. Rob, can you pull up the prayer of Mamdani from New York City? Doing his prayer with others. Uh, uh, uh, do you have that or?

• 44:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you guys see this clip here with him sitting down with others?

• 44:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was.

• 44:49Patrick Bet-David?

  He's sitting down, he's doing his prayer, and then from there, you know, he's saying, "Well, we're running out of money. Uh, I'll wait for Rob to find this." You should have it, Rob.

• 44:58Tom Ellsworth?

  I have the money one right here.

• 44:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, we'll go to that afterwards. Uh, first, let's go to the prayer, Rob.

• 45:03Tom Ellsworth?

  It was right in City Hall, and they're all sitting on the rug.

• 45:05Speaker 07

  Yeah, and there's like guys praying.

• 45:06Tom Ellsworth?

  They're having like a lunch and a prayer, and and all of a sudden, these guys off to the left of the one frame start throwing signs, and it's like, "Wow, what is that?"

• 45:15Speaker 07

  Democracy pretty much dies through itself in this kind of situation. It's like, people voted for this, and then they suffered the... It's just so disturbing.

• 45:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Robert, it's last 36 hours, Rob.

• 45:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Mom Donnie. It's everywhere, Rob. Okay, play the other clip, Rob, I'll find it and send it to you. If you want to just play the other clip first.

• 45:36Patrick Bet-David?

  This is Mom Donnie when it comes on to death taxes. Watch this, go ahead.

• 45:39Speaker 06

  Amidst being in the wealthiest city and the wealthiest country in the history of the world, we already see an exodus of working and middle-class New Yorkers. So I don't have a hesitation in asking those who make the most amount of money in the city or the most profits in the city to pay a little bit more so that everyone can actually stay in this city. It's also something not just about justice or the ability for working-class people to live here. It is also actually about ensuring that corporations can continue to attract the top talent to this city. Because in a city where childcare costs more than $20,000 a year, I've heard from corporate leaders about how difficult it is for them to attract individuals who would work at their companies but want to raise a family, because you could be making $300,000 a year, and you will feel that $20,000 a year

• 46:24Speaker 06

  because of the fact that we have allowed for the absence of affordable childcare to become reality here in this city.

• 46:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom.

• 46:30Speaker 06

  Amidst...

• 46:36Tom Ellsworth?

  It's the first time, it's the first time, Tom, it doesn't have words. You chase, you chase your taxpayers out, and what do you expect? You, you, you chase all the people out that are paying taxes so that the government can find ways to make maybe subsidized daycare, to help workers be available, and, and do something productive that helps everything come together. Instead, you stand there and say, "Well, you know, you know, daycare is, uh, 20 grand a year, and even people 300 grand here, they have trouble making it." And you want to take half of it, right? In one-

• 47:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Can we get, can we actually give the exact stats, Rob? I just sent you this tweet, if you want to pull that up. This is very important for all of us to-

• 47:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Isn't that crazy?

• 47:16Patrick Bet-David?

  It is. This is very important to see the details of what he's doing. So Mumdani has proposed lowering the exemption on death taxes, a state tax from 7.1 million down to 750, okay? He also increased the death tax from 16% to 50%-

• 47:32Tom Ellsworth?

  That is crazy.

• 47:33Patrick Bet-David?

  -in his, in his city.

• 47:35Tom Ellsworth?

  That is crazy.

• 47:36Patrick Bet-David?

  No other jurisdiction in the US confiscates wealth at death from people with that small state, uh, uh, small of an estate. Anyone with any equity in a home New York City would likely exceed the 750 and have to pay the death tax. There is a federal state estate tax or a state wealth that exceeds $15 million individuals. However, you can deduct the other state and city estate, uh, taxes, uh, before paying for the federal state tax. So effectively, Mumdani is preventing the federal government from taxing estates. New York City and New York City are taking it first.

• 48:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Get it?

• 48:09Patrick Bet-David?

  They're taking it first. The money goes to them first.

• 48:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Translate it for people. Your, uh, mom is a widow, your dad's been gone for a while, God rest his soul, and your mom passes away. You find out her home in New York is worth 770. Your sister, uh, is married with a child, and you say, "Wouldn't it be great if my sister could move into mom's house? Because it's all paid for." Yeah, but now someone in the family's got to come up with $350,000. Minimum to give to the state of, to give to the city of New York because the house is being taxed.

• 48:44Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 48:45Tom Ellsworth?

  So you know what they do? They sell the house, your sister, your brother-in-law and the, and the child, they continue to live in the Bronx. Until they get a better job outside the city. That's, let me tell you, that's the story. Do you see what just happened?

• 48:58Speaker 03

  Yeah, and I'm just curious, Pat. Uh, like all the people that were glazing over this guy, the Andrew Schultz, how would they feel like? Uh, cause I remember, I remember the podcast where Andrew, Andrew and all of them were all excited and he's there and they're like, I'll pay the extra percent. I'll pay the, now it's going up. It was one, now it's two, now it's going to three. Now he wants your money when you die, which that 750 should be going to, to your kid. That he doesn't, he's horrible job at cleaning up the city. He, he's letting homeless people die in the streets. He's praying to Allah in freaking New York. Okay? The worst terrorist attack we've ever had. That religion is in there praying, the Allah Akbar in there and nope, what happened?

• 49:38Speaker 03

  I want to know if they have, any of these people have buyer's remorse. Nothing is going right. Nothing. He's lied about everything. And it drives me crazy. That suicidal empathy. No, no, come, we'll take anybody. Okay? Show me one thing right that he's doing. Every week he's coming in front of the camera going, hey, you know what? I need more money from you rich people and I just want to know if you guys are cool with it. All the rich people that were clapping and, and kissing his ass. Now what are you doing?

• 50:01Tom Ellsworth?

  There's buyer's remorse. So a week ago, we covered the clip where all the people with the megaphone were saying, hey, I own a house here and I think they were in Brooklyn. We own homes here in Brooklyn. He was going to do this. Now he's taxing us.

• 50:11Speaker 03

  All the, all homeowners.

• 50:12Tom Ellsworth?

  The guy that was at the microphone was a, a, a, a black man with a whole group of people around him that says, hey, work for these companies. We work here and they were flipping out. And the news media didn't want to talk about it because he was the wrong color. But he was a citizen stating what you're just saying. I have buyer's remorse.

• 50:29Speaker 03

  Yeah. Well, but I haven't heard the buyer's remorse because I'm just curious. How much more are, are they going to tax you? How much more is he going to take from you? So you go on and you say, you know what? Damn, we got duped. But I'm very curious because they seem like New York, I'm not hearing nothing from the New Yorkers. I'm not hearing nothing. Uh, this is the only video that I saw of the buyer's remorse. This guy.

• 50:50Speaker 03

  That was the dude.

• 50:50Speaker 02

  ...speech in every debate where you engage, we open our ears to listen.

• 50:55Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 50:56Speaker 02

  Now today, accept the words echoing from us now. Do your job as mayor and leave our taxes out.

• 51:02Speaker 03

  Bingo. There are only two options. You're saying if we don't tax the rich, then I gotta increase property taxes. We are not a part of Southeast Queens. We are not part of your negotiating tactics. If you're Zon and Mondani, you are out of goddamn mind. And Elon, Elon, you ready for this? Yeah, he voted for him. Elon, he's openly saying, listen to this. He openly said a couple of weeks ago, if you're here illegally and your illegal kids are here, I don't give a damn where the taxpayer, all those people glazing, they're gonna pay for your illegal kid. Tell me that's not incentivizing people to get your ass to New York. Sanctuary city.

• 51:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but this is the great delusion. I don't understand how people didn't expect. This is what I'm confused by. We, this is like, that's why I said I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone. This plays out in every state throughout all of history. Every time you have someone like this who's in power, it never changes. The end result is the same. Everyone's okay with it as long as they think it's someone else's money who's gonna take care of them. In the end of the day, it always comes down to the entire population who has to cover these expenses. And people are just naive. I don't know how people don't learn. Like, how do you not look at California? How do you not look at other parts of the world where these experiments have been done and failed? A hundred out of a hundred times, it's the definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over. By the way, what's interesting is even though we got the reports, uh, remember when California

• 52:21Patrick Bet-David?

  lost a trillion dollars twice, right? But they lost the first trillion because of COVID, the bad policies. They lost the second trillion because the wealth tax. Mm-hmm. This right here, Rob, can you do me a favor? Ask Rock, out of the 123 billionaires in New York City, what is the average age of these billionaires? It's gonna be in the late 60s, early 70s. This is not Silicon Valley money. We're maybe in the 30s or 40s. Yeah. This is gonna be 71, 66. It's gonna be an age like that. What is the average age? Many over 70. Many over 70, okay, so there's billions of, hovered around 67. So guess what a 67-year-old is thinking about? Mm-hmm. If you're a billionaire...

• 53:07Patrick Bet-David?

  And you're in your late 60s, what do you think's the most important conversation you're having with your family office and your wife and your husband? What do you think you're talking about?

• 53:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Legacy.

• 53:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Estate planning.

• 53:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, protecting your assets.

• 53:18Patrick Bet-David?

  So, so, so, so check this out. So, very weird. Of all the people that left California, like the Sergey Brin and all these people that are leaving California and came down here, they're in their 40s, they're in their 50s, New York wealth is in their 70s. So if you're pushing this now, New York is all, they're all coming to Palm Beach in the next, you're gonna hear the announcement of wealth leaving in New York in a very different way and a different audience. You're gonna hear names you don't know. It's billionaires you've never heard of before. That's worth 2.8 billion, 6.8 billion, 3.9 billion, and they're like, "You touch our estate planning?" If this goes through, Vinny, it's not out of 123, I don't think it's 5% leaving.

• 54:03Patrick Bet-David?

  If it actually goes through, if it, guess who's the first person that's saying, "We gotta move"?

• 54:09Speaker 03

  In New York?

• 54:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Of these billionaires, the 123, guess who's telling them, "You gotta move, Dad"? The kids.

• 54:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh huh, 100%.

• 54:17Speaker 03

  Oh yeah, because it's like, yo, they're messing with my friggin', my future.

• 54:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you understand what happened?

• 54:21Tom Ellsworth?

  The grandkids.

• 54:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you understand?

• 54:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Grandpa.

• 54:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Kids are gonna be like, "Hey, uh, wait a minute, did you just hear the estate plan? The, Dad's 2.2 billion, he's got four kids, it's a half a billion for each one of us, guys. We gotta make sure Dad moves out of the state." You don't think that's gonna happen?

• 54:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh man.

• 54:36Patrick Bet-David?

  You don't think that's gonna, that's the difference between you getting, give me the number if it's a 2 billion dollar family, and you got four kids, and the four kids, the father's 75 years old, and the four kids know that 2 billion's gonna go to them, how much, how much is, how much is the cost for each of the kids?

• 54:49Tom Ellsworth?

  125 million.

• 54:50Speaker 03

  125 million each.

• 54:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Exactly. 125 bill, so let me ask you, you're the kid, what are you doing? Hey Dad.

• 54:57Tom Ellsworth?

  I want that 125, Dad.

• 54:58Speaker 03

  Florida is awesome right now.

• 55:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Vinny, Vinny, we have to protect our, I mean, we have to protect Dad.

• 55:04Patrick Bet-David?

  We gotta get him to Florida.

• 55:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh my gosh.

• 55:06Patrick Bet-David?

  It's too cold in New York, you can slip. Let me ask, so who else is on the kids' teams? Who else is on the team of kids? Who else is saying you gotta leave New York?

• 55:16Speaker 07

  The wives?

• 55:16Patrick Bet-David?

  The wives and the, not the wives.

• 55:18Tom Ellsworth?

  The family office advisors.

• 55:20Patrick Bet-David?

  The financial advisors.

• 55:21Speaker 07

  Yeah, the advisors.

• 55:21Patrick Bet-David?

  The investment bankers, the insurance guys. All of these guys are saying, you guys gotta get the hell out of here. So this guy that's by himself, look who is around him, the 2.2 billionaire guy, the 4.8 billionaire guy. The family, the kids, the advisors all are saying, let's have a meeting. This is happening. If this gets done, recommendation move to Tennessee or move to Miami or move to Palm Beach. But you have to leave the state. Don't you think that, and by the way, guess who else is thinking about this right now? If this is real, guess who else is sitting there saying, what are we gonna do? You know who else? You don't think David Solomon is paying attention to this?

• 55:59Patrick Bet-David?

  You don't think Jamie Dimon is sitting there in their offices coaching and challenging their advisors on how to talk to their clients? You don't think the boardroom of all these firms that are managing money? That have 8.3 trillion dollars of money under management, 2.8 trillion dollars of money under management? You don't think these guys are saying, hey, uh, we have to advise our clients to leave? Because those guys don't have money that they get for five, 10 years. When they get family money, they're getting that family money for 20, 30, 40, 50 years. And it's blocks of money. So if I'm running Goldman or if I'm running Morgan Stanley or Merrill or if I'm running any of these big firms, I'm sitting there today, I'm talking to my analyst. And guess what I'm asking him?

• 56:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Guys, can you run a report of the 8.3 trillion dollars of wealth that we have? How much of it is concentrated in New York City? Uh, boss, we just ran it. It's right around 320 billion dollars of wealth that we have in New York City. We need to have a meeting, a family office meeting, emergency meeting with all our clients in New York City. And let them know exactly what the results are gonna be with recommendation. If I'm running one of these banks, I'm hosting a meeting at a nice property in Gurnee, in whatever you wanna call it. And they'll come in private meeting and I'm gonna say, guys, uh, if you're wondering, you've already talked to your tax people. You've already talked to your state planners. Here's what's going on. We brought an economist, we brought a CPA, we brought our team that's this.

• 57:23Patrick Bet-David?

  We brought our chief information officer, we brought our chief investment officer. Here's what you're gonna be looking at. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Solution, a lot of you guys are probably wondering, these are seven things that our clients are doing right now that we're recommending them to consider. One, move here. Two, get this. Three, you don't think they're having that conversation?

• 57:39Speaker 07

  100%.

• 57:39Tom Ellsworth?

  They are. You know what the funny punchline is?

• 57:41Patrick Bet-David?

  What's that?

• 57:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Wells Fargo says, Vinny, you need to be there because us, us here at Wells Fargo Ultra High Net Worth Advisors are gonna hold a meeting. And you, you say, in Napa as usual? No, no, no. We're in Palm Beach now. We moved in the spring of 2026. Wells Fargo moved all of our wealth guys to Palm Beach. So come on down. We're on Worth Avenue. It'll be great. That's where we're meeting. Wow. Why do you think they moved there?

• 58:03Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, just visually, folks, if you're watching this, visually, what I just presented to do, how believable is it that each of those meetings are being had? With these billionaires in New York City?

• 58:16Speaker 07

  Yeah. My question is though, historically, when we look at, let's say, extreme taxation, right? When we went above 90%, what happened is all the real billionaires, all the people who have the access to amazing financial advisors, were able to find loopholes and protect their assets. In the end of the day, it affected people who have like a million dollars, who are hoping to leave this to their kids. That's who ended up paying the consequences.

• 58:37Patrick Bet-David?

  New York City's about to lose a trillion dollars. New York City's about to lose a trillion dollars. And by the way, let's play a game. Let's play a game, folks. Run a poll, Rob. How long until we get news reporting that a trillion dollars of wealth has left New York City? Okay? Run a poll. 30 to 90 days? You know, 90 to 180 days? 180 days to a year? It won't happen. Okay? 30 to 90 days, 90 to 180? So I'm saying a month to three months, three to six months, six to 12 months, it won't happen. Run a poll. I'm curious what the audience is gonna say. Watch in the next two, three, four, five, six months? If this passes, by the way.

• 59:22Speaker 07

  Okay. It's gonna, from the date of it passing or from today is the poll?

• 59:26Patrick Bet-David?

  If this pass, from the date passes. By the way, and, and remember, it's not even if it passes. Let me change it. I don't even think it's from the date passes. When they started talking about the 5% wealth tax in California, it hasn't passed yet.

• 59:37Speaker 07

  People just took off before it passed.

• 59:38Patrick Bet-David?

  It hasn't. They're like, no, no, no. We're out. Okay? Let me see what the poll is saying, Rob. So so far, 700 votes. Thirty-two percent, thirty to ninety, ninety to one eighty was what? So sixty-five percent of the audience is thinking, within the next one eighty, we're gonna see that. Twelve percent thinks it won't happen. Those twelve percent live in New York City, by the way.

• 59:59Speaker 03

  So that means eighty-eight percent, Pat, thinks it's gonna be six months.

• 1:00:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Huh?

• 1:00:04Speaker 03

  Eighty-eight percent is six months or less.

• 1:00:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Eighty-eight, no, eighty-eight percent, uh...

• 1:00:08Speaker 03

  One year or less.

• 1:00:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Is one year or less, is what they think. Alright, let's get to the next story. M'Donnie here praying. Uh, it's a dinner he's having. Rob, if you wanna play this clip of him having dinner. Okay, and then the gentleman at the end that holds that one finger up. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:00:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Wanna make some of that?

• 1:00:27Speaker 06

  It's a moment where you're asking yourself how you can reconnect to growing up with being taught that... Allah wa ali.

• 1:00:36Patrick Bet-David?

  What's this?

• 1:00:38Speaker 03

  Allah walk by, yeah, that's that.

• 1:00:40Patrick Bet-David?

  That's the ISIS sign.

• 1:00:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, he's not saying he's number one, everybody.

• 1:00:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, this is...

• 1:00:44Speaker 03

  That right there is the ISIS sign, right in your effing face. That is such a spit in the face to every single New Yorker, and it boggles my mind how they're not out of their minds furious at what the hell is going on in New York. It's insane, bro. Taking over Times Square and doing this, I'm telling you, uh...

• 1:01:01Speaker 07

  Have you guys not seen the videos of the guys, like you said, being interviewed and saying, "We are taking over the city"?

• 1:01:06Speaker 03

  No, in your, uh, a hundred percent. They're like, "We're taking over your city, what are you gonna do about it? What are you gonna do about it?" Bro, do you understand? The suicidal empathy of the guy that was on the, on the bullhorn? He's on the bullhorn saying, the white guy with the glasses, "New York is for everybody and come here", and the terrorist kid used him as a catapult to throw a freaking nail bomb. Do you understand the, the hilarity of that situation? Like, how stupid you look? You're, you're there saying, "New York is welcome to everybody".

• 1:01:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, I just texted you something, can you show that up? Watch this.

• 1:01:39Speaker 03

  And they used him to throw a bomb over him.

• 1:01:41Patrick Bet-David?

  So two pictures I wanna show you. One, if he can show the other bomber, look at this. Look what sign he's putting up?

• 1:01:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:01:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Look what the other guy was putting up? You know who that guy is, by the way?

• 1:01:50Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:01:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, go to the other one, boom, so that's that. You know who else did this back in the days in France before he went back to Iran? A guy named Chomeni, Chomeni, watch this. This is Chomeni in Paris, sitting down, doing his thing. That's Mamdani on the bottom. In your face.

• 1:02:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Bingo.

• 1:02:07Patrick Bet-David?

  In New York City. In New York City, they're doing that. Go ahead and do something about that. That's what's going on in America right now. Anyways, let me get to the next story here. Oil prices, Tom, I'm coming to you with this one here. Tom, what do we know right now about oil prices? I know yesterday went to above 100. Today it dropped to, I don't know what it is right now, 91, 92, 93. It's a lot of ups, it's a lot of downs. Yesterday, three ships were hit. I believe in Strait of Hormuz. Rob, if you can pull that up of the three ships that were hit. In Strait of Hormuz. Uh, what do we know about oil prices right now? And what's gonna happen the next week, two weeks?

• 1:02:45Tom Ellsworth?

  So we're going on sentiment. Good news, bad news, good news, bad news. Dad comes home drunk, dad comes home, eats dinner, and falls asleep on the couch. Those two different things are happening. And I hate to put it that way, but we are living in this world of daily perception driving the markets. Uh, perceptions always drive the markets. I know all the comments are gonna come in, but these are, these are just absolutely, uh, to use the word radicalized perceptions. Oil right now, West Texas Intermediate, uh, $94. Staying under, uh, staying under 100 a barrel. West Texas, I think Brent is another dollar. So we're 90, depending on where you are in the market, you're 92 to 95. Oh yeah, 9310 on crude oil futures generally.

• 1:03:28Tom Ellsworth?

  The markets right now, the Dow is up 205, green. S and P 500 is up 27, green. NASDAQ is up 91, green. And they're all point four to point five, so almost half a percent up today. So the market, the stocks are back up a half a percent. All those indexes yesterday were down like 1.2. All the news media is talking about Armageddon, Armageddon. I'm like, look at the indexes. If you add it all up, you know, you get, you know, great macro numbers that make huge headlines. A trillion dollars lost yesterday. No, it's not. Is there a trillion dollars change in value? And then you come back today and a half a percent is back up after down 1.26 yesterday.

• 1:04:09Tom Ellsworth?

  What's interesting is, Rob, um, I sent you a, uh, I sent you a graph. I just, I texted it to you. That guy right there. You know what this is, Pat? This is very interesting. This is the middle of the tanker wars. Look at the, look at the date down below. This is the Iran and Iraq tanker wars in the, um, in the Hormuz, the Straits of Hormuz, back in 1987. In July of 1987, a, a US ship hit a mine, blew a hole in the side of it. All these things happen and the standard and poor S and P 500 is the blue line. Look what happened. Woof, goes straight down and look at the trend that was going up.

• 1:04:54Tom Ellsworth?

  So the WTI oil back then, 10, 12 dollars a barrel. Remember 1987, folks, you gotta multiply that times like, like six right now. It's going up and then the ship gets hit and it goes down. We've seen this before. This was the tanker wars. They were known as the tanker wars between Iran and Iraq as the, uh, conflict between them spilled over into the straits and guess what? They needed Navy escorts. Does this sound familiar for this? So that's what's happening on oil. Historically, this is the way it works. Perceptions and uncertainty. Right now, oil is right there. Part of the thing that bugs me, in a capitalistic environment, you can charge anything for anything

• 1:05:37Tom Ellsworth?

  and you can change your prices and you can make surge prices. It's kind of disappointed me that the service stations and the gasoline in America, they've pre-reacted because their supplies have not gone up in price yet.

• 1:05:51Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right. Only 2% of the oil that comes in, comes, uh, outside of the state. So these guys are just propping up the prices because they can.

• 1:05:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah. And it's just Chevron on the side, but that may be independently owned like a franchisee. And that's the part that bugs me. I mean, come on, let's be good to each other. You can make a buck, you can do all that, but there's a time where I think that there's compassion in our capitalism and that part of the, now, if you're in California, you've got two bucks a gallon on taxes in there, you know, I, I have no sympathy for you. That's the kind of who you voted for is doing that, but that's what's happening with oil.

• 1:06:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Big difference. And the tanker, or the war that happened back in the days, eighty-four to eighty-eight, what was it, four hundred and fifty-one ships, three hundred hit, three hundred civilians killed, twenty-five percent of oil exports leaving Hormuz was shut down. Correct. You know, US came in and they said, we're gonna insure you guys, insurance rates went up four hundred percent. And by the way, if you look up right now- And they escorted.

• 1:06:52Speaker 07

  It was called Operation Ernest Will, I think is what it was called. It was like an actual operation to make sure that the tanker-

• 1:06:57Patrick Bet-David?

  They call that the worst event that ever happened at Strait of Hormuz. Worst, and they're not even putting this at that level yet. But Rob, you have a couple clips. If you want to go through, which one do you want to go first? You want to go through what Scott Besson had to say? Go for it.

• 1:07:12Speaker 03

  My belief that as soon as it is militarily possible, the US Navy, and perhaps with an international coalition, will be escorting vessels through. And that came up just now in the Situation Room. Your words, not mine. But again- But are we days away from that? We've been planning for this. We've done scenario analysis for months, for weeks, the leading into this, so- But it's a prospect in the coming days, then? It is a prospect. As soon as, we have complete control of the skies and are degrading their, they have

• 1:07:55Speaker 03

  no air force, the Navy is sunk, literally and figuratively, and the munitions factories, the rebuilding capabilities for the missiles, they're completely degraded. So, as soon as it is possible for safe, to ensure safe passage, we will do it.

• 1:08:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, while he's saying that, you know, we got, what did President Trump say? They're releasing four hundred million, is this it, Rob? Four hundred million barrels? Go ahead.

• 1:08:28Speaker 06

  I'm pleased to report that earlier today, the International Energy Agency agreed to coordinate the release of a record four hundred million barrels of oil from various national petroleum reserves around the world, which will substantially reduce the oil prices as we end this threat to America and this threat to the world. We don't want to leave early, do we, huh? We gotta finish the job, right?

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• 1:09:57Patrick Bet-David?

  We gotta finish the job. So last night, I believe, he said he's released. This just got in. Is it this morning or last night? Lifting sanctions on Russian oil. I saw it late, late last night, like 11:30. This is late, late last night? Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:10:12Speaker 03

  Global supply of oil is getting squeezed at the Strait of Hormuz, and officials here have to look elsewhere in the world for some oil. And they have found it on some tankers that are full of sanctioned Russian oil. It is sanctioned, of course, because Russia will not stop the war in Ukraine. So the Treasury Secretary, Scott Besson, is saying this. POTUS is taking decisive steps to promote stability in global markets and working to keep prices low as we address the threat and instability posed by the terrorist Iranian regime. To increase the global reach of existing supply, U.S. Treasury is providing a temporary authorization to permit countries to purchase Russian oil currently stranded at sea. This narrowly tailored, short-term measure

• 1:10:56Speaker 03

  applies only to oil already in transit and will not provide significant financial benefit to the Russian government. There's two other levers that they are gonna pull. They might waive the Jones Act, which says that only US flagships can go from US port to US port, and they do plan to tap the Strategic Petroleum Reserve.

• 1:11:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Now, while this is happening, a couple of things. Oman Oil Facility on fire after drone strikes. This is it, Rob, I think you got, right? Is that it?

• 1:11:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Those are those, that's Iranian Delta wings.

• 1:11:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Boom, show it.

• 1:11:35Speaker 07

  Not like a suicide unmanned, whatever they're told.

• 1:11:39Patrick Bet-David?

  So that's that, the Shahada?

• 1:11:41Speaker 07

  Shahada, yeah.

• 1:11:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. So, those are the drones that they make for twenty, thirty thousand dollars, super loud, you know when it's coming. It's not like it's hidden, it's not, you know, stealth, you know it's coming at you. And then Iran threatened Trump and said, "We're gonna do everything in our power to raise oil prices to two hundred dollars." That's what they said. I don't know if you have that clip, or if it's a clip, or...

• 1:12:01Tom Ellsworth?

  I do. It's in English, too.

• 1:12:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 1:12:03Tom Ellsworth?

  There it is.

• 1:12:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 1:12:04Speaker 03

  It is expected that the governments of Muslim countries will swiftly warn the criminal United States and the savage Zionist regime against such cowardly anti-human actions, so that the flames of fire and war do not spread further.

• 1:12:18Tom Ellsworth?

  It's real, it's translated by AI.

• 1:12:20Speaker 03

  Otherwise, similar actions will occur in the region. And if you can tolerate oil prices above two hundred dollars per barrel, continue this game.

• 1:12:29Patrick Bet-David?

  There you go.

• 1:12:30Speaker 07

  AI is getting crazy, yeah.

• 1:12:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom.

• 1:12:32Tom Ellsworth?

  So, one of the things we want to look at, they're talking about the Strategic Oil Reserves. Rob, I just sent you the chart, if you could pop it up, and I just sent you the link literally thirty seconds ago. There you go. Click on five years, please. Can you spot the moment that Joe Biden started emptying the SPR for the sake of US gas prices? See if you can spot the moment, right? Now go look at one year.

• 1:12:59Tom Ellsworth?

  And this is Trump has been trying to refill it. So we have been trying to refill it and we are going to be refilling it partially with some Venezuelan oil. Remember when he, uh, Pat, remember when he said, and they owe us some oil from infrastructure and stuff. And so it's not going to go to the U.S. refineries like Chevron and Exxon and people that were cooperating and helping us with Venezuela. It was going to come back to us. There it is. So now go back to five years. So basically we're sitting here, you know, 50% down on the SPR from where it was. It was, um, well over 600 million barrels. And so down 50% because Joe Biden was trying to run into the election and to

• 1:13:40Tom Ellsworth?

  get a hold of inflation and get the price of gasoline down. That's what's going on. And so now the world, this is where, when we have this, this weapon, can you imagine if Trump had the full 600 million barrels, Pat? Don't worry about it. I got you covered. This is what the strategic reserve is all about. He would be controlling energy prices for everybody. Something I said on Wednesday, I'll say again today. We are so lucky it's springtime because if this is protracted, the people that get hit hardest by energy prices in the United States is the Northeast because of heating oil. It's very expensive to heat your, your, your home in the Northeast and they use heating oil. Thank goodness

• 1:14:23Tom Ellsworth?

  spring is around the corner as this goes out. But there you have it. For everybody that looked at the manipulation of the Biden campaign, and by the way, certain economists were talking about it, but the largely the mainstream media, Pat, was silent on this, on how it was being, what was supposed to be a strategic emergency resource of oil was being used to artificially bring down gas prices during time of peace because they were worried about the 24 election.

• 1:14:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Now, are you surprised? I'm not surprised that this is happening. This is what they're doing. So we'll see what he's going to do because he's saying he's going to be tapping into it. Like you said earlier, Pentagon tells Congress first week of Iran war cost more than 11.3 billion dollars. That's what the war ended up costing, uh, based on what Pentagon just informed, uh, Congress. Rob, do you have a clip on that?

• 1:15:11Tom Ellsworth?

  I do.

• 1:15:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it. The attacks on Iran, including shipping, traffic and energy.

• 1:15:16Speaker 07

  Infrastructure have pushed oil above $100 a barrel today. Iran says that could actually hit $200 a barrel if the war continues. Overnight, we found out that the Pentagon told Congress the first six days of the war have cost the US $11.3 billion. Again, that's just the first six days of the war. Today is day 13. So with that in mind, we're joined by.

• 1:15:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so that's that with the 11.3 billion. Another report comes in. Vinnie, I'm going to come to you with this one for us to process. New York Times has a story, "US At Fault In Strike On School In Iran. Preliminary Inquiry Says That Came In." You know, we've been following this closely. A lot of different things have been said. The president and Pete Hexett were asked about it and they said, "We don't know. My opinion is Iran was behind this." And then Pete Hexett said, "We're looking into it." But I think there's a clip, Rob, that you have. An ongoing military investigation has determined that the United States is responsible for deadly Tomahawk missile strike on an Iranian elementary school, according to US officials and others familiar with the preliminary findings.

• 1:16:18Patrick Bet-David?

  The February 28th strike on Shajarrah Tayyebey Elementary School Building was the result of a targeting mistake by the US military, which was conducted, conducting strikes on an adjacent Iranian base, of which the school building was formerly a part of. The preliminary investigation found officers at the US Central Command created the target coordinate coordinates for the strike using outdated data provided by the Defense Intelligence Agency, the DIA. People briefed on the investigation said officials emphasized that the findings are preliminary and that there are important unanswered questions about why the outdated information had not been double-checked. Striking a school full of children is sure to be recorded as one of the most devastating

• 1:17:02Patrick Bet-David?

  single military errors in recent decades. Iranian officials have said the death toll was at 175 people, most of them children. Vinnie.

• 1:17:11Speaker 03

  I mean, tragedy is an understatement for what happened. I know people say, you know, casualties of war, and I understand that part. My thing is. We know as a military member, Pat, especially being Air Force, I know you were Army, Mike's here, you know, Navy, what were you, Mike? Navy, guess what? Every single munition, every bomb, every missile is accounted for. If it's ours, if it's the United States munitions, we know exactly where it is and we know what happened. If the case is that it was us, just come clean, apologize, so people move forward. Because you know what? Those are 168 children who have fathers, who have brothers, who have uncles, who have cousins. What are their attitudes gonna be like towards us?

• 1:17:56Speaker 03

  Think about, think about that. And where are they? Are some of them here? Are some of them sitting around, waiting to do something? This is a very, very bad look. If it is, nobody's still giving us a solid answer, but if it is us, I want them to come clean and let everybody know what happened and at least admit to the fault. Because this whole, "Well, we don't know, might have been them," and they initially blamed them right off the bat. They're like, "It was Iran." Which it looks like to me now, it's not, but I think that you have to come clean with something like this. I get it. It's a horrible, horrible thing that happened, when innocent lives are, are, are, are taken, are killed, and you have to admit it, at least admit the fault, and move on. That's, I, I don't like this, Pat, this, not waiting around, and you know what's going on.

• 1:18:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me, let me tell you, you're right, and Caroline Levitt said, President Trump said this, he first denies it. If you have the other one, he's still, go for it, Rob.

• 1:18:45Speaker 05

  A new report says that the military investigation has found that the United States struck the school in Iran. As Commander in Chief, do you take responsibility for that?

• 1:18:55Patrick Bet-David?

  That is what?

• 1:18:57Speaker 05

  As Commander in Chief, do you?

• 1:18:58Patrick Bet-David?

  For what?

• 1:18:59Speaker 05

  For the strike on the school in Iran. A milita, a new report says the military investigation has found it was the United States that struck the school.

• 1:19:06Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know, though. Go to what Caroline Levitt had to say. Here's what Caroline Levitt had to say about it.

• 1:19:14Speaker 03

  Why did President Trump say yesterday that Iran may have Tomahawk missiles when there are only three other US allies plus the US that have those missiles and therefore could...

• 1:19:24Speaker 05

  Again, as the President said yesterday, he will accept the conclusion of this investigation by the Department of War. I know there's been a lot of speculation in the media about who may be responsible for this. We're not going to get ahead of the Department of War in the conclusion of that investigation. The President has a right to share his opinions with the American public, but he has said he'll accept the conclusion of that investigation.

• 1:19:46Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it right there. This is what Senator Joe Kennedy had to say. I think he's from Louisiana, if I'm not mistaken. Go for it.

• 1:19:53Speaker 05

  Right, though, you actually talked to NBC News last night about that strike on the girls' school, and you said it was terrible. We made a mistake. I'm just so sorry that it happened. And why did you feel like it was important to say that?

• 1:20:03Speaker 07

  Because I think it's the truth. I mean, we're investigating, but I'm not going to hide behind that. I think it was a terrible, terrible mistake. The investigation may prove me wrong. I hope so. The kids are still dead. But I think it was a horrible, horrible mistake. I wish it hadn't happened. I'm sorry it happened. I can assure you it wasn't intentional. That's the sort of thing Russia does. We don't do that. But, you know, I don't see any other possible explanation. And when you make a mistake, you ought to admit it. Most people understand no one's perfect, but I don't think our men and women who are

• 1:20:47Speaker 07

  fighting for us did it intentionally. I'll never believe that.

• 1:20:50Speaker 05

  Fair enough. So, speaking of the men who are fighting for us...

• 1:20:53Speaker 03

  That's how you do it.

• 1:20:55Speaker 07

  But I think that's the most important thing, to draw a distinction between intentional targeting of civilians and an absolute tragedy that happened due to error. Own it, because we do have to own it. It did happen. The reality is here, people say war is ugly. War's not ugly just because people are fighting each other. War is ugly because the longer a war goes on for, the more margin for human error there is, and the more this kind of thing will happen. And the longer this war goes on, the more likelihood that some other mishap will eventually happen again. It's just the... Tragedy of war. I think that's the right approach. Like you said, Vinny. It's a tragedy regardless of where the missile came from. Whether it came from Iran, Israel, the United States, it doesn't matter. Children are dead. Nobody likes seeing that.

• 1:21:37Speaker 07

  And it's exactly what we have to avoid, but we do have to own it. We do have to understand that intention is everything.

• 1:21:42Speaker 03

  Yeah, I, by the way, the way that he said it, the way that he manned up and he said it, that's how you do it. Take responsibility. He said the Department of War. So in that sense, Pete Hexeth should come out and say, hey, listen, we made a mistake. God gress all their souls. We made a mistake. Because mind you, that happened, what, week one? How many days in? We're the superpower, the most intelligent. Our intelligence community and the Israeli intelligence community, forget it. They're the best. How do you make that mistake that quick and then you're kind of backtrack and blaming them? I understand it's a tactic of war. But no, bro, you gotta come clean and say if it was us.

• 1:22:17Patrick Bet-David?

  So it was a military base. That it was a previously a military base that they had, they turned into a school. And the DNI, Department of National Intelligence, didn't update the fact that it's now a school with kids in it. And they shot that place down, assuming it's a military place. So then that's the part where you have to sit there and wonder, how recent did that change? When did that happen? Why were they not updated? Who dropped the ball here? Who was the individual that didn't give the proper information? Was it a US intel? Was it a report that gave to us from Mossad? Who was some?

• 1:22:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Somebody dropped the ball and.

• 1:22:56Speaker 07

  Why are you converting a military base into a school? Military bases will always be targets.

• 1:23:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, military bases, and that's the argument on the other side. Military bases will always be military bases. There'll always be targets. But listen, it's still a valid conversation to have, to address this. At the end of the day, if you think about war, what is the one thing you never, ever want to happen in war?

• 1:23:18Speaker 03

  Innocent.

• 1:23:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Children. Children. Never want that. This is horrible, devastating that something like this happen. And, you know, hopefully they'll come out. And the way that Kennedy did it, you could tell he was in pain when he was doing it. That wasn't a comfortable moment for him. But he stood up, he did it, and he moved on.

• 1:23:35Speaker 03

  I looked it up while you were doing it. They're saying that the visible satellite since, apparently since 2018, it's been converted.

• 1:23:43Speaker 07

  Since 2018? That's a long time.

• 1:23:45Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, there's a hacking story here. And, you know, some years ago.

• 1:23:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Back when, they may have been still using them, remember tapes? The tapes that were secret and the CIA would send or the Department of War would send? The tapes, they were opened in specific envelopes in a specific way and then those tapes were loaded on to cruises, right? And then there was this whole thing about Pat, you know, about bad guys switching the tapes. So that the target coordinates that are on these tapes, because sometimes the military, the guys arming the bombs, don't know where the tomahawks are specifically going. You're there to set coordinates and you don't know what those coordinates are, boom, and off they go. They launch from the ship and then they go to the targets that have been set.

• 1:24:35Tom Ellsworth?

  And so now we're living in this digital world where, you know, a change of address form doesn't get filled out and we hit a school?

• 1:24:42Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:24:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Number one, but number two, now you also have the long-term hacking of, you know, being able to hack into defense systems and change coordinates of intended targets.

• 1:24:52Speaker 03

  That's very scary. It was actually 2016, so it's been around.

• 1:24:55Speaker 07

  10 years.

• 1:24:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:24:56Speaker 07

  You have to wonder, do they not do surveillance before targeting sites also?

• 1:25:00Speaker 03

  Well, there's no boots on the, I mean, if, like, how are you?

• 1:25:01Speaker 07

  Yeah, but satellite surveillance, you have, you have control of their airspace. You would imagine that they could confirm targets before hitting them.

• 1:25:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Satellite surveillance, you go and you're seeing a bunch of kids coming out, you know, guys.

• 1:25:11Speaker 07

  That's what I'm wondering.

• 1:25:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Why, so if it's 16, 10 years, this is, they dropped the ball on this in a big way, if it's been 10 years. Okay, let's go to the next story here. Next story I want to get to is, uh, ba-ba-ba-ba-ba, which one do I want to go to here? Rob, which story do I have that I, uh, we want to go to next?

• 1:25:29Speaker 07

  Uh, New York City, the terror bombing and CNN's reporting of it.

• 1:25:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, let's go to that one with Abby?

• 1:25:35Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 1:25:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that the one? Go to Abby. Uh, Dear Abby from CNN, uh, you know, if you have the whole clip, what page is that on, Rob?

• 1:25:42Speaker 07

  Um, that is on page 25.

• 1:25:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, page 25, CNN, Abby Phillips corrects comments on ISIS-inspired attacks on CNN, uh, in CNN, go for it, in New York City. Go ahead.

• 1:25:57Speaker 07

  Here's the original comments that she made. Two Republicans say Muslims don't belong here after an attempted terror attack against New York's mayor, Zohar Mamdani, and the Speaker Mike Johnson says nothing really to condemn those comments. Another special guest is going to be with us at the table when we come.

• 1:26:16Patrick Bet-David?

  And then what's the apology? The apology is a tweet, right? It's not a video. She actually did an on air apology as well. Let's see it. Yep.

• 1:26:22Speaker 07

  But first, this morning I issued a correction first thing in the morning on X for a mistake that I made in last night's show, but I also wanted to do so on air as well. I incorrectly said that the bombs that were thrown by ISIS inspired suspects in New York over the weekend were directed at Mayor Mamdani. They were not. I failed to catch and correct that mistake in real time and I take full responsibility for that. And while we do make mistakes, it is important to acknowledge and correct those errors when they happen.

• 1:26:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinnie.

• 1:26:52Speaker 03

  They they could literally have a segment where they're just doing this.

• 1:26:56Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 1:26:56Speaker 03

  Just apologizing for every single lie. And it just it boggles my mind that CNN still doesn't get it. What the hell is going on with their board? Tom, you, Pat, you guys have been on board. You guys own companies. What the hell is going on at CNN? Isn't Larry Ellison about to buy like, is he? Are they buying them? Who?

• 1:27:16Tom Ellsworth?

  They're now in the regulatory review place. The offer has been accepted and they're having inspection on the house and they got to get a mortgage. Think of it that way. It's not closed down.

• 1:27:25Speaker 03

  Tom, since I can remember, the Chris Cuomo's on CNN, lying, lying, Russia collusion, COVID, all the BS that they're doing, they're still not shifting gears. And I don't even know how how people, Scott Jennings, I understand that he's there to debate all these people, but Rob, can you show the tweet? Can you please show the CNN tweet?

• 1:27:44Tom Ellsworth?

  Actually, they would get viewers if they did. Do you remember Bill O'Reilly's talking points memo? Hello, I'm Bill O'Reilly and welcome to No Spin Zone and here's tonight's talking points memo. If she started every night, hello, Abby Phillips, tonight's Thursday night and tonight's correction is.

• 1:27:57Speaker 07

  Yeah, she'd go viral.

• 1:27:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, she would go viral every night, have a correction.

• 1:28:01Speaker 03

  And this is this is one of the tweets. Two Pennsylvania teams just crossed into New York City Saturday morning for what could have been a normal day and joining the city during abnormal warm weather, but in less than an hour, their lives would be drastically changed as a pair would be arrested for throwing homemade bombs during an anti Muslim protest outside Mayor Mamdani's house. And there's another one, Rob, and I'll.

• 1:28:18Tom Ellsworth?

  The premise that they're average kids to enjoy a day in the city.

• 1:28:22Speaker 07

  But even Mhamdani took this approach.

• 1:28:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Two Pennsylvania teenagers who had been apparently, you can say, apparently radicalized and had spent some time planning this, entered the city with their devices. That's the opening statement.

• 1:28:36Speaker 07

  And this is another example of imagine it went off. This is another example we were talking about previously.

• 1:28:40Tom Ellsworth?

  Come on.

• 1:28:41Speaker 07

  This would have been such a major tragedy.

• 1:28:43Speaker 03

  Um, well, Rob, I'll just say it out loud.

• 1:28:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, yeah, it, it, that the nail, the nail bomb, as they called it, misfired or...

• 1:28:51Speaker 03

  Rob, it's CNN and it says, "A post regarding the two individuals arrested for throwing homemade bombs outside of New York City, Zorah Mhamdani's home, failed to reflect the gravity of the incident, therefore breaching the editorial standards we require..." Oh, this is it. Uh, uh, "We require for all our reporting has therefore been deleted." They didn't just miss on how serious what happened was. You twisted it on purpose. They left out who was responsible, who the real targets were, and where the blame belongs. And by the way, that's not an accident. That's a choice. When you decide to hide those details, you're, and you're not informing the public, you're protecting the people who did it and you're misleading everybody on what happened.

• 1:29:32Speaker 03

  So my question is, why? Why is CNN taking the position to hide the details from the public? Why? Elon, I'm being...

• 1:29:40Speaker 07

  It's 100%. It's propaganda. Look, these narratives have been going on for a while. If you were just... I talked to people, older people who just watch CNN. They live in a different reality. It is actual propaganda. There's no way to explain it. You could, you could have a situation like this and you talk to people who just watch CNN, they come out thinking there was some massive white supremacist group that hates Muslims that was, you know, acting chaotically, and then two innocent kids came along and tried to do something and were, uh, you know, there was something that didn't actually go off and it wasn't such a big deal. And that the big problem is the white supremacists. That is actual brain rot propaganda. It's been going on for decades. And by the way, just objectively speaking, when you get everything wrong, right, continuously in one direction,

• 1:30:24Speaker 07

  like you said, that is not a mistake, that is intentional. And it is always in one direction and there's a lot of, you know, 80%, I believe it's higher now, but 80% of people read headlines. They don't even read articles anymore. They don't deep dive into things. And so we're relying on like really quick data to form our opinions of the world. And then you have people like that. No one really watches CNN anymore. You know what I mean? It's almost like it doesn't actually matter. But this is the, this is the degradation of legacy media on full display. Literally.

• 1:30:52Speaker 03

  And they're not shifting gears. It's unbelievable to me as a company worth as much as it's worth. What the hell are you doing? Yeah. Bringing on Scott Jennings is the only reason I can even watch it. I can't even watch it that long. Is when he has to push back against these people. If not, what is it? It's just everybody patting their backs with false information. Yeah, you're full of crap. Yeah, we're all full of crap.

• 1:31:13Speaker 07

  Bigger than just the media. This is stuff that goes on in advertising. This is stuff that goes on in Hollywood. There is some orchestrated decay of society. I was going to talk about this earlier, but there's a speech by Reagan years ago. Do you guys remember the speech where he said, by the time our enemies come to us? We won't even stand up and fight them. There's a really good speech that he gave and that's essentially what's been happening to us. Yuri Bezmenov or whatever his name is, had talked about the degradation of America, our ability to fight enemies. And I think that's a speech right there. We must fight. You must, we must fight.

• 1:31:42Speaker 03

  We must fight right there.

• 1:31:42Speaker 07

  It's a powerful speech that captures today, everything that is going on. This isn't a new tactic. You can go back 20 years and look, there was this, um, there was this documentary that came out in the UK that was called undercover mosque and it literally showed the infrastructure in the mosques that were funded by the government that were considered the most secular mosques. And how they were connecting to like actual terrorist organizations overseas. You know who was arrested? The guy who went in and documented it for hate speech.

• 1:32:10Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:32:10Speaker 07

  And now we look where the UK is today. We're not far behind. And so the media, our advertising, Hollywood, all these stuff are designed to make us weak, susceptible and uh.

• 1:32:20Tom Ellsworth?

  And we wonder where the young men that committed, that gave their, gave their lives in the completely wrong, most perverse way and the subway bombings came from. Where did it happen? Where did they, where did they go? Right here. They were being radicalized. You know, it's the guys that radicalize them are never guys that straps on the vest and gets on the subway. It's the young displaced males that they're able to radicalize and send out on suicide missions.

• 1:32:43Speaker 07

  Yeah, they're highly susceptible. There's an identity crisis for a lot of young men.

• 1:32:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's talk about California. So a few things. FBI says. Iran plotting drone attack on California as retaliation for the war. Terrifying FBI alert that came out, Rob, go ahead and play this clip.

• 1:32:59Speaker 07

  So new reporting just coming in of a warning to law enforcement in California from the FBI that Iran could retaliate against US strikes by launching drones at the west coast. This is coming from ABC News reporting. National correspondent Matt Finn, joining us live from our LA bureau. Hi, Matt.

• 1:33:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Hey Martha, so there is this ABC report that the FBI has warned police departments here in California that Iran could launch a drone attack somewhere on the west coast, possibly targeting California. This drone attack could, you know, potentially come from an unidentified vessel. I've talked to some LAPD sources who say so far LAPD has not been made aware of any credible drone threats here in Los Angeles. One LAPD source tells Fox News that there has not been- You can skip this one. A top US drone expert says Iran could make deadly California strike at any second. We're extremely vulnerable, okay? Iranian forces have technology, the ability and the motivation to launch withering drone

• 1:34:01Patrick Bet-David?

  attacks on targets in California, according to Brett Welikovic, a former US Army intelligence and a special operation soldier who spent years using drones to hunt and kill leaders of ISIS and other extremist, other terrorist groups. We're extrem- is this it, Rob? Yes, sir. Go for it.

• 1:34:19Speaker 05

  Yeah, absolutely. Look, Will, Iran has been trying to find unique ways to kill Americans for years. They found that in their own lethal drone technology years ago and had a head start on us when it comes to manufacturing cheap, low-cost and highly lethal attack drones. But this brings up a larger issue that honestly deserves national attention. Our counter drone defenses here in America. I've been warning about this for years on this program and now it's playing out in real time. And the uncomfortable truth is that some elements of our own regulatory system, particularly the FAA, are slowing down the technologies that can actually stop these very threats. And look, I'll be the first to admit it, the FAA has a very difficult job. They have to protect the most congested airspace in the world.

• 1:35:01Speaker 05

  They mean well, but my loyalty is always going to be to protect fellow Americans and I keep hearing from other government- officials that the FAA is not doing any favors to our government and defense apparatus who are trying to install counter drone systems that protect those same Americans and and it's making me nervous. We are extremely vulnerable to domestic drone attacks. Obviously, Iran's seeing that, China's seeing that, Russia's seeing that. The FAA and national security policies on drones should prevent the attack left of launch, not react after somebody here died.

• 1:35:33Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it right there. He says drones drones can be launched by ships. As the FBI warned local law enforcement agencies, that could be the case in California. Such launches could even be executed from unnamed unmanned drone ships. You don't even need a human anywhere near this. You can launch these things over Starlink from a boat a thousand miles away. Tom.

• 1:35:57Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, this is where low tech meets high tech. When high tech goes against high tech, when the US goes against China, if there was ever a war, it's high tech on high tech and very predictable, you know, avenues of engagement on both sides. When low tech meets high tech, frequently, high tech has trouble, you know, dealing with it. Take a look at the IEDs. Gas canisters like you would get for your backyard barbecue or a fire pit strapped together with a detonator device and a cellphone that's been compromised. That created IEDs that crippled and killed hundreds of our servicemen in Afghanistan

• 1:36:37Tom Ellsworth?

  and Iraq. That's low tech. This drone is a low tech propeller driven, you know, delta wing as we see it with basically a, you know, a quadruple grenade on the front of it. That's basically what it is. And so now that's low tech. And even Israel over last night or the night before, Elon, they Hezbollah did an overwhelming. What they did is there's the Iron Dome in Israel. What Hezbollah did from the Lebanese border, Golan Heights area, I may be wrong on that, but I'm not right about is they sent 100 drones to overwhelm it, Pat. They're trying to test and overwhelm Iron Dome. Okay, let's, we got 100 domes.

• 1:37:20Tom Ellsworth?

  How did Hezbollah get 100 domes? Never mind, but there's 100 coming. And so here they come. And now they're trying to overwhelm it, saying, okay, come and get us. And in the US, there is no, there is no dome. So if there is.

• 1:37:36Patrick Bet-David?

  So is this a possibility, in your opinion?

• 1:37:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, it's a possibility.

• 1:37:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Could this happen in California?

• 1:37:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, well, if they... So, some said it was a false story that was amplified. Let's never mind that. What if there were two that were there that they wanted to go launch against some school in California, in Hollywood, because they don't like the extreme liberalism? And be careful, guys. The Muslims may not like Jews, and Muslims may not like Christians, but they really don't like the LGB2 and the extreme things, because it goes right into the heart of their faith. If they wanted to put two of those up and make a strike in Hollywood? Pat, we don't have a dome to counteract it. We have to have intelligence to stop it before they launch it, because it's very realistic. It's very possible.

• 1:38:21Speaker 03

  That is what we rely on, by the way. It's kind of sad. So our military bases overseas have tremendous anti-drone technology. Our country itself, just because we don't expect attacks like that, are far behind. We're lagging. We rely on preemptively catching these things. But the reality of drones is just like you touched upon it. They're very hard to track. They're made for low cost. They're very, very cheap. You can make them in the country carry a very small payload if you start getting into bigger payloads, but drones are designed to swarm. You're not putting one drone up in the air. You're putting hundreds, if not thousands, if you can. So one gets through if you can't stop them? One, two, three, but you start having payloads dropping everywhere in the country. That causes absolute chaos. These are not meant to destroy a country. They're meant to destabilize and cause chaos, and to cause massive infrastructure damage

• 1:39:06Speaker 03

  and, you know, all that kind of stuff. They can make your life very, very difficult, and it's a very hard way to live, just like we saw, you were talking about the Hezbollah attacks. You're looking at 100 rockets that cost $3,000 to $5,000. Every single rocket that Israel has to, every single interceptor missile that Israel has to use, is $250,000 if you look at the intel behind it, running the Iron Dome, all these... That's why they created the Iron Beam.

• 1:39:28Tom Ellsworth?

  So two interceptors cost as much as all 100 rockets?

• 1:39:31Speaker 03

  So, yes, you're running an asymmetric war. You're running a war that's...

• 1:39:34Tom Ellsworth?

  That's the advantage for people who do not care who they target. Is that they can just blindly do these things. Iran doesn't care. If Iran were to attack the United States with drones, or terrorists from within the country, their goal is to target civilian infrastructure. They don't have to be precise. Yeah. And so that's the benefit they have. They can just operate in absolute no accountability and just target whatever they want. It's a very scary reality. We do need to develop just long-term better defensive mechanisms over our own airspace for this kind of thing. It's just a smart way forward.

• 1:40:04Speaker 03

  Oh, I agree because when you, I don't know which one of you guys.

• 1:40:06Tom Ellsworth?

  You were talking about Golden Dome, Golden Dome.

• 1:40:08Speaker 03

  Donald Trump was talking about building a Golden Dome, which I think is a very, very needed, uh, you know, tool that we need here. But if you guys think about it, four drones were stolen from Fort Campbell a couple of days ago. So when you want to talk about the insider threat, bro, well, first of all, that's where the 101st Airborne is at. How are you stealing drones? I don't, I don't think that they were, you know, uh.

• 1:40:29Tom Ellsworth?

  They were surveillance drones.

• 1:40:30Speaker 03

  Surveillance drones were brought. At the end of the day, you could still put whatever you want on top of them.

• 1:40:33Tom Ellsworth?

  You can still carry a payload.

• 1:40:35Speaker 03

  A payload on that, which a bunch of stuff came over to the border that they were talking about. So, and again, I don't know who these guys were.

• 1:40:40Tom Ellsworth?

  A Muslim radicalized soldier, maybe?

• 1:40:42Speaker 03

  Oh, you never know. So that's why, bro.

• 1:40:44Tom Ellsworth?

  That doesn't happen.

• 1:40:45Speaker 03

  Going back to what, going back to what you said, enemies, foreign and domestic. Since they can't really get to us from the air, it's going to happen from people that are already here that are just waiting in the freaking shadows, that were given money, that were giving cell phones, that were giving freaking apartments, and we were all lied to. So just be ready for that.

• 1:41:02Tom Ellsworth?

  We have to look at the future of warfare. And it's not always going to be the most high-tech stuff that wins wars. Sometimes it's going to be a, just a different way of thinking about war.

• 1:41:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, no, you're right. Absolutely right. Rob, this is, uh, is this the drones that were found stolen at Fort Campbell, Kentucky? Go for it.

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• 1:42:22Speaker 06

  Building at the Army is a $5,000 reward to figure out who stole several drones from Fort Campbell. The Army's Criminal Investigation Division shared photos of these two men. They illegally went into a building at the Army base last November and took four drones. They left in two different vehicles, a light colored sedan and a dark colored pickup truck. If you recognize either vehicle or the suspects, you should contact Fort Campbell.

• 1:42:49Speaker 03

  Apparently the suspects were identified in Fort Campbell stolen drones case, no threat to public. Of course they're going to say that, but I mean, I don't, I don't know. It says the Army has identified-

• 1:42:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Because they sold the drones to a sleeper cell. So those guys are no longer a threat. They're no longer a threat.

• 1:43:03Speaker 03

  Yeah, they're not, they're not a threat. But again, Pat, that's, again, you know, this is your Army. That's the 101st Airborne. How are you, how are we stealing drones, bro? With masks, you're coming in there and you have, that security is, is obviously in, they're going to be getting reamed by like whoever was in charge.

• 1:43:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Everything though in our country has declined just in our ability to do anything, even in our military sadly. I don't know what's going on.

• 1:43:23Speaker 03

  Well, the past four years, transgenders were doing TikTok dances and that was their thing. And the people were joining the military just to get transition surgeries and then leaving.

• 1:43:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Did you see the Nav speech videos that came out like four or five years ago? The, the new Navy speech, like they, they came out and it was all about trans language.

• 1:43:40Speaker 03

  Oh yeah, I remember, I remember the guy.

• 1:43:42Tom Ellsworth?

  This is a Nav speech video.

• 1:43:43Patrick Bet-David?

  That is gone. Thank God that is gone with Biden and, and that stuff has moved on. Let me get to next door here with Newsome, California, Rob, if you want to go to. So Newsome's being interviewed by, I believe, David Pakman. And in the interview, he tweets this, just go to my Twitter account if you could, just if you go to, you'll see his tweet right up there. Yeah, right there. So he tweets this. And he says, Trump has wrecked our economy. We used to be the envy of the free world of the world. Now our gas prices are soaring. Inflation is up, unemployment is skyrocketing, and he's busy in court fighting to tax the American people. You can play this clip, Rob. Go for it.

• 1:44:25Speaker 06

  Literally, I mean, he's taken an economy. That was honestly one of the most robust fastest growing economies in the world. And here we are. I mean, we're now it's in reverse with the new jobs numbers. I mean, you saw the gasoline prices going through the roof in in red states. I thought saw today forty forty seven cents in West Virginia, forty seven cents. The same number in Indiana, and that's just a few days into this war.

• 1:44:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:44:48Speaker 06

  Uh, wait and see inflation pressures. We're now having the echoes. I mean, cue up the song around stagflation. We're gonna have, we're gonna all start having that conversation. And obviously, this big, beautiful betrayal and what's happened in terms of the deficit and debt that is going to be exacerbated by these tax cuts and by all of the food stamp cuts and the impacts.

• 1:45:07Patrick Bet-David?

  So he goes on.

• 1:45:08Tom Ellsworth?

  His hands are crazy.

• 1:45:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, he is very good. Now, keep in mind, if there's anybody in America with zero moral authority to talk about anything is this guy, okay?

• 1:45:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:45:16Patrick Bet-David?

  The only governor of a state that lost a trillion dollars of wealth two times, two separate times. Twenty twenty, twenty twenty one and twenty five, twenty six. People left your state, okay, two times. And what's even more embarrassing than that is he's the leading candidate for the Democratic Party at nineteen percent on a CNN poll, not a Fox poll, a CNN poll. Harry Anton couldn't even control himself, saying that people, he, he, nobody is excited. He called it a clown show of of what's up there with with candidates. But that's Newsom for you. And while this is happening, Yamaha, that's been there for I don't know how many years. I don't know what the number is fifty seven years, fifty years.

• 1:45:58Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:45:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Is leaving California. Number two, Howard Schultz, you know, he's obviously a different story because we'll get into the Howard Schultz story. Yamaha's leaving California, a bunch of other things that's going on. Any of your thoughts with what Newsom is saying here?

• 1:46:11Speaker 03

  I just, I, it's, he's obviously delusional. And it's like, how much of this show that he's putting on is resonating with the actual people? How much of, because again, he's still going after Trump. He's still going after Trump. I'm curious to when, Pat, do you think it's gonna be what, one year out? Where he does the shift and he says whoever's a frontrunner, that's where he's gonna shift all this to. Because you're, you are completely blind and and actually ignorant if you're. believing it and living there and not seeing it. My mom lives there, my sister, my brother, my nieces, my nephews. Everybody that I love, Pat, lives in California. And they're all feeling it. And now they're all in their heads going, we might have to be coming to Florida because it's so, he doesn't, the, the, the. The fires, they didn't take any ownership, the horrible, they blamed everybody else.

• 1:46:56Speaker 03

  He keeps going after Trump as if he's going to run for Trump, uh, run against Trump. You're not, you're gonna be going against Rubio, or you're gonna be going up against J D Vance, and they're going to demolish you. They're demolish you. I don't understand the tactic. I don't get it. Uh, and he, but he's very. Like, I sit there and watch him, besides the funny hand movements and everything.

• 1:47:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:47:15Speaker 03

  He is so good, because when he's doing this, Pat, not to be funny, you're not even paying attention to what's coming out of his mouth. Because in your hands, in your mind, you're like, what is he?

• 1:47:24Patrick Bet-David?

  He's hypnotizing you.

• 1:47:25Speaker 03

  He's hypnotizing you. And then once the smoke clears, and by the way, shame on Pacman, all these people that just sit there. And they just consume all this ridiculous content for out of his mouth, and they don't push back. Zero, zero pushback, because you're, you're, you're horrible at what you do. There's one side of, they can't see the other side.

• 1:47:43Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, about, about sixty percent of all billionaires in America live in four states. California's got about a couple hundred of them. New York's got about a hundred and forty of them. Florida's got about a hundred and fifteen of them. And Texas got about eighty to eighty-five, sixty percent. California, the way he's going right now. He's about to lose a lot of people. It's not even the end of it. It's not even the end of it. This is just policies they're looking at right now, sitting there saying, why would I stay here? For what reason? Is it just a lifestyle? Is it? And by the way, twenty twenty-six. If you're a Democrat, you're a Democrat strategist. Then go to a Republican strategist.

• 1:48:23Patrick Bet-David?

  If you're a Democrat strategist, you don't care who it is, you just wanna have somebody win so you can get in there, right? And you're looking at Newsom. You have to think about the good, bad, and the ugly. How do you sell them? What are you most concerned about?

• 1:48:37Speaker 03

  How do I sell them?

• 1:48:38Patrick Bet-David?

  How do you sell them?

• 1:48:39Speaker 03

  He, he looks presidential. He looks, you know, good looking, you know, wears a suit, knows how to communicate. You can't take that away from him. That, that's the, the, the selling point. What was the second part?

• 1:48:51Patrick Bet-David?

  What is the threats? What are the, what areas are you gonna have a hard time with them?

• 1:48:55Speaker 03

  His, his track record, his resume is absolutely horrible. His flip flopping on stances with transgender and sports and this and that. And just all the lying, all the, all the taxes, all the people leaving, all the, you know, the horrible response to the fires and blaming everybody and talking about land grab. That resume is going to come back to haunt, haunt him. The app that shows you where all the human feces is around San Francisco. What he did when she came, made all the homeless people disappear and praise a foreign leader. That's all gonna come back, Pat. And COVID? The worst. COVID hypocrisy. Told everybody, stay home, don't leave your house, cuz I was there. And meanwhile, he's at the, the French Laundry chilling, drinking and having a freaking good time. The hypocrisy's gonna come back and bite him in the butt.

• 1:49:39Speaker 03

  And I, I honestly think that Gavin Newsom, that Kalshi, uh, chart prediction is gonna drop.

• 1:49:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Day one, who's getting the money? You know how day one typically there's somebody that starts with a hundred million dollars, two hundred million dollars?

• 1:49:51Tom Ellsworth?

  I wanna know who's gonna be supporting him beyond PACs? Uh, the PACs that are out there. Uh, now we know how the PACs are getting money. Uh, the, the hospices in California that were fake and everything, a lot of that money came back in. We know it came back in, in, in Minnesota cuz we've seen evidence of it initially and now we're waiting to see the rest of the evidence and, and prosecutions in Minnesota. That the money that went to the fraudulent places, Pat, went back into the, um, uh, the, the investment. Similar to the way the Ukraine money, we called it on this podcast two years ago on how the Ukraine money was making a round trip back. Oh, you would give a billion to Ukraine, eight hundred came back to Raytheon, and then fifty million, oh my gosh, made it back to a PAC that was supporting, you know, you

• 1:50:36Tom Ellsworth?

  know, this particular senate candidate. Wow, wow, wow, wow. So we're self-funding our candidate. Campaigns. So I'm waiting to see where the PAC money is that's going to come here because he doesn't have a Sheldon's widow. The way the Republicans do, Pat. He doesn't have those yet. And the people that are out there that were the Silicon Valley, the tech bros, as they call them, they're not in his camp. No. They're not there at all. So when you look at this, hey, do we, is there a Kalshi on the national election? Take a look at that. Well, well, by what a difference, as they say, what a difference a day makes. Could you move that off there so we can see the end? What a difference a war makes. Wow. Look at this. This is, and by the way, this is it one.

• 1:51:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Nowhere to now right behind both of them.

• 1:51:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, really quick. Look at the number on the lower left corner, Pat.

• 1:51:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Eighteen million.

• 1:51:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Eighteen million has been put up by people putting their opinions out on Kalshi. You can be part of it. Put your name, get a Kalshi account, go put some money in where your opinion is and watch it unfold. You can do it. This is how prediction markets now are showing us.

• 1:51:46Patrick Bet-David?

  What is it on Rubio right now, Rob? If you put a thousand dollars on Rubio, what happens? Can you, can you pull that up so we can see what happens if somebody puts a thousand dollars on the prediction market? So you put eighteen cents on Rubio, what do you get?

• 1:52:01Tom Ellsworth?

  You'll get the, the eighty-two cents minus the fee for the House.

• 1:52:07Patrick Bet-David?

  So you put, you put eighteen hundred dollars right now. Rubio wins, you're getting eighty-three hundred dollars minus the fee? Is that the way to look at it, Tom?

• 1:52:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, you, because you're betting at the eighteen cents and the other half. So you could actually click on the yes and it'll tell you exactly what you can accept, expect.

• 1:52:27Tom Ellsworth?

  There you go. Where does it show it?

• 1:52:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, Tom, I still, I, you said, there you go, but I don't know what there you go means. I want to know, like, if I bet a, if I put on a thou, where do I get on that? Humberto, can you let us know what happens if a thou is put on here?

• 1:52:42Tom Ellsworth?

  You would get a thousand divided by eighteen cents is sort of the votes, votes that you'd be making. A thousand dollars divided. By eighteen cents. Be the number of votes.

• 1:52:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Five thousand?

• 1:52:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Five thousand, five hundred and fifty-five. Not a bad bet. Point five-five.

• 1:52:58Patrick Bet-David?

  If you, if you put a thousand on the position of Rubio being president, you're gonna win fifty-five-hundred bucks?

• 1:53:04Tom Ellsworth?

  That's what it says. I just divided a thousand by eight, point twenty. Because what's it?

• 1:53:08Patrick Bet-David?

  That is, that is.

• 1:53:09Tom Ellsworth?

  What's twenty cents times five?

• 1:53:10Patrick Bet-David?

  So you're telling me, you're telling me a three-year investment of you put ten K on Rubio could turn into fifty-five-thousand minus fees?

• 1:53:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Correct. Yeah, your five-point-five X thing, yeah.

• 1:53:23Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know, I, I, uh.

• 1:53:25Tom Ellsworth?

  The way he's trending, and he's, he's actually showing really strong leadership.

• 1:53:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:53:29Tom Ellsworth?

  How much? Where do you think the eighteen million is coming from? People are making that exact, exact predictions.

• 1:53:36Patrick Bet-David?

  So that eighteen million, and some people are putting a half a million bucks, saying they think Rubio, so half a million is gonna turn into, you know, two-and-a-half million dollars.

• 1:53:44Tom Ellsworth?

  But the big thing is the prediction markets are coming true, and they're, and they are now leading even the best of the polls. You look at how the polls end up. It's really amazing.

• 1:53:55Speaker 03

  How much, how, how much do you think the, the, the odds of Rubio winning in two thousand twenty-eight are gonna matter about the, how this war, how the outcome of the Iran war?

• 1:54:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Not as much.

• 1:54:07Speaker 03

  Finishes, is it gonna, is it gonna affect him, Pat?

• 1:54:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Not as much, he's not vice president. I think it hits J.D. Vance a little more.

• 1:54:13Speaker 03

  But he's been a big proponent, and he's been in front of the mic, talking about Iran, Iran, Iran. You haven't heard one thing about J.D. Vance. All I've heard is Rubio. So how much of that, if this is not a success, and isn't ended within, let's say, six months? How much does it affect, Pat, his two thousand twenty-eight bid? Because that's what they're gonna use against him. They're gonna say, your party said no new wars, look what you guys are doing, look what, you guys are bombing schools and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. How much you don't?

• 1:54:39Tom Ellsworth?

  It all depends on his, there's so much time between now and then, it depends on his rhetoric. Like, in other words, if he's offering off-ramp solutions, if this does get dragged out? Yeah. And he can say, listen, I've been offering off-ramp solutions.

• 1:54:49Speaker 03

  If I get in, that's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna off ramp us. That could work. Yeah, or they're gonna say, well, you guys acted like you guys had the plan. Here we are. It's 2027. We're still, you know, these people are not giving up. That's I think, Pat, what do you think? You think that that play a big role? For his 2028 bid if Rubio is the front runner on how this war finishes? If it does, if it drags out or if it's done within six months?

• 1:55:16Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I, I think, I think it is a, you know, that whole thing about a thousand becoming 5,500 bucks minus fees.

• 1:55:25Patrick Bet-David?

  There is still so many unpredictable things that nobody has a clue what's gonna be happening. It is so, so, so early. It's not even funny, but I can tell you at the State of the Union. He made Rubio stand up twice and he recognized him twice. He only did that with one person, which was Rubio. And he says Rubio is gonna go down as the greatest secretary state of all time. He's saying this. He's saying he's gonna be better than Kissinger because Kissinger had loose lips.

• 1:55:53Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:55:54Patrick Bet-David?

  He would, he would talk and he says Rubio does not talk. So if this continues. And this becomes a Gorbachev moment, hey, Mr. President, tear down that wall and Iran is gone and Rubio is front and center. I, I don't think he needs to do anything else between now and 2027. He's the leading candidate. If it succeeds, but that's a massive if for this to be, to be done. And we don't even know what success means. By the way. Can you pull up the book that Vinnie co-wrote with?

• 1:56:24Speaker 03

  This is what Gavin.

• 1:56:26Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, I'm like you, Gavin Usum, this is.

• 1:56:28Speaker 03

  Cause he wanted, he let, he let, he let African Americans know in Atlanta. He doesn't know how to read. His SAT scores were, were low. By the way, he, he, he grew up in the hood. He grew up in the hood and he ate, you know what I mean? Like bread, stacks of bread and tries to talk like he's.

• 1:56:43Tom Ellsworth?

  He has a sequel, doesn't he? Where he changes the Y to a J and he goes over to the Middle East, right?

• 1:56:48Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's the next book. That's the next book with the yarmulke.

• 1:56:52Patrick Bet-David?

  And, and by the way, just so you guys know, that's AI.

• 1:56:54Speaker 03

  That's AI.

• 1:56:55Patrick Bet-David?

  You don't need to go double check and verify whether that is real or not. Let me go to a couple of things here before we wrap up.

• 1:57:01Tom Ellsworth?

  The hair was real. The expression was AI.

• 1:57:03Patrick Bet-David?

  I want to show a clip I saw about.

• 1:57:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Fatherhood of a picture he saw at a gathering when his eight-year-old son looked at him and what it did to him, okay? This is a conversation, an old conversation with Brian Dennehy, an actor. If you don't know Brian Dennehy, he's been in a lot of different things.

• 1:57:26Speaker 03

  Great movie.

• 1:57:26Patrick Bet-David?

  A lot of different movies. You've seen him many, many times. If you don't know the name, you definitely know the movies he's been in.

• 1:57:32Speaker 03

  Silverado.

• 1:57:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, Phil, First Blood, Tommy Boy, Silverado. You got Rambo. He's been everywhere. And he's being asked about the role alcohol played and what moment was it for him where he stopped drinking alcohol? Watch this conversation here. Go for it. I was always a kind of a sneaky drinker. I, you know, if I was on location or in a hotel someplace, maybe I could, maybe every once in a while I'd get blasted at home. But one, it was Thanksgiving years ago, 10 years ago, 12 years ago. And my son Cormac, who is now a freshman at Syracuse and who I love beyond measurement. And it was Thanksgiving and it was 11 o'clock and we had a whole bunch of people there and I was having a glass of wine.

• 1:58:17Patrick Bet-David?

  I was fine. I wasn't, I wasn't even high at that point. But as I'm looking around the room, my eyes catch his eyes, his eight-year-old eyes. And he was looking at me with that look. And that look said, what's he gonna do today? How, how, how, how bad will it get today? How far will he go today?

• 1:58:37Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 1:58:38Patrick Bet-David?

  I knew it immediately. And I remember putting the glass down. But that was the end of that part of my life. I mean, I was always a kind of a sneaky drinker. How do you process that?

• 1:58:51Speaker 03

  Oh, man, like, you know how everybody has their moment? You know what my moment was? For that, for an eight-year-old just to share the look and that was his moment is... That's insane. Like, you know, I, I, I feel for the eight-year-old kid because I was that eight-year-old kid. My dad, Pat, woke up every morning, drank two Miller Highlifes. My mom, that was, that was him going to work, was drinking those two beers, going to work. And the moment he got home, it was vodka and Coke, which is a nasty, nasty drink. But it was always, what a, what a moment. It was always looking in that room, Pat, to see his mood. And we would avoid the living room. We'd have to use the living room to go to the bathroom. I would, we would avoid it. I would go outside in the yard to pee, just not to deal with the person that's drinking.

• 1:59:35Speaker 03

  So for him to have that moment from the innocence of an eight-year-old looking, and by the way, when he's saying, what is he gonna do next? Meaning, is he gonna throw things in the house? Does, I don't know if he hit the kid or whatever. It was always that moment of unpredictability when it came to my dad. Either he was the best person to be around. He loved his friends to come to the house. He would always have, but, but when it was us, when it got to the certain level of drinking, Pat, it was yelling at my mom, lining me and my brother up like soldiers, me, my brother, my sister, and just yelling, just about, about nothing, about absolutely nothing. So that's it, bro. I'm telling you right now. I tell people all the time and I talk to you. I can't tell you the amount of people on my neck that talk to me and reach out to me about alcoholism and addiction. If you eat too much food, what do we, what do we normally say?

• 2:00:19Speaker 03

  Oh, man, I'm, I'm full. I'm just full. Overeating. Let me just lay down. When you drink too much alcohol, it's alcohol poisoning. There's, it's poison. And I get it. Some people are like, I just want one glass of wine, and that's fine. But for some people that can't do it, my, my biggest advice is, listen, pray about it. Stop having alcohol in the house. Stop hanging out with people that are drinking. And if you're out and you have to be in that social setting, club soda lime, and you'll get to the point where you tell people, because at the beginning, I was like, I don't, I'm embarrassed. Like, yo, I'm drinking a club soda. And people were like, and I was in L.A. What are you, you, you a little, then drink? And I would go into it. But then it got to the point where I'm like, yo, I'm, I'm done drinking, okay? I'm not, I don't need, like, you're not a friend. And I'm telling you right now, Pat, the amount of friends

• 2:01:03Speaker 03

  that you will lose if that's, and because you realize, they're not friends. Drinking, bro, honestly, God, we were just drinking partners, and I'm not saying all of them. I still have friends that I used to hang out with and drink with, but it's crazy how you change and your life. And bro, it took me two years. I remember the moment, Pat, I'm driving in my car and Tom, something happened. I got good news. And I felt goosebumps. I felt genuine happiness. And I was like, oh my God, I haven't been happy in years because the alcohol was numbing everything. And May 1st is going to be three years. Besides God, obviously.

• 2:01:35Patrick Bet-David?

  May 31st.

• 2:01:36Speaker 03

  May 31st is my three year anniversary. I've the best, obviously not decision because I've always had God, but I just got more serious. Stop drinking was the number one thing I've ever done in my life. And I encourage everybody out there. Everybody out there, if you're, if you're having that moment, the best decision I've ever made in my life was was stop drinking, period. And listen to the stories you're hearing from people that are like, you know, a kid looking at the father.

• 2:02:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Eight year old kid looking at that. I don't know who he's going to be.

• 2:02:06Tom Ellsworth?

  So there's something really, so I used to, I've been hospitalized many, just to be totally honest. But when I was younger, I went through a really rough stage. I was hospitalized many times. They told me, you're going to kill yourself. You keep drinking like this. I was lucky. I had a tremendous woman who made a big difference for me. Uh, but there's something very powerful about taking the attention off yourself, right? You suffer from depression. Most people who drink suffer from depression. It's correlated. But they're both involved with self obsession, self consumption. And when you take the attention off yourself, it's why God is so important. It's why something like a child, looking at a child and go, this person right here is more important than I am. My attention's going to go to them. My attention's going to go to something bigger than me. It's going to go to God. It's going to go to something bigger than this material world, which I'm consumed by.

• 2:02:48Tom Ellsworth?

  You have an identity greater than yourself. You put yourself out to other people. It cures whatever that illness is because the illness isn't the alcohol. The alcohol is a cover up for the illness that you have inside you. And so when you find a way to treat that, when you, when you come down to the core, and it's so valuable having someone who can help you or having someone to put your attention on. And again, having God to put your attention on, it can cure you. It can cure that. And then nothing can break you. And like you said, those people are not your friends.

• 2:03:13Speaker 06

  They were never there for you. They were there for what you represented to them, which was someone to do this thing with. It's hard. It is very hard.

• 2:03:20Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, you know, um, you know, to me, when, when you, two days ago, we went to, uh, Venezuela Dominican Republic game, uh, Dominican Republic game and Vinny, baseball game. Ridiculous game, okay? Tatis hit a homerun, on fire. Guerrero hit a homerun, ridiculous. And Soto? Soto hit a homerun in the first inning. And then also Matre, uh, hit a homerun. And they just played lights out. Venezuela had, they came back at 1.43 and I'm sitting there. Dylan's next to you and, and, uh, uh, Sean is with us. We're having a great time conversations. We come home and then of course Dylan has not felt good the last two days.

• 2:04:03Patrick Bet-David?

  He had empanada. I don't know what he ate, Vinny. He's been, he's been a bad shape. I think it was, and I just, I just like around the video of the home plate. I think it was empanada. You know what it is? There's, there's, uh, three things when it comes down to that kid relationship, right? The kid relationship with the dad. There are certain gifts that your kids are born with. That's their gifts. Okay? There's nothing you can do about certain gifts that they're born with. You were born with certain gifts like Vinny can do. I can, by the way, I can be with Vinny for six hours. And Vinny will make you laugh for six hours. Vinny's like this naturally. He was born with this amazing gift of making people laugh, making everybody around, he's just a, he's not even a comedian. He's just Vinny. He's like this all the time.

• 2:04:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, if you're around Tom, if you're around him after three, four hours, your brain, you will literally start seeing bulges. Your biceps getting built out and you're like, your head's got traps. Yeah. And your head like you're flipping, going like this because Tom, just when you're around him, his ability to store knowledge the way he does is insane, right? There's certain gifts. Your kids have it as well.

• 2:05:09Patrick Bet-David?

  That's their gift. Number one is what they're born with. But number two is on you and I. And apart with you and I, it is what is caught on what we do, how we live our lives, how we handle issues, how we handle crisis, how we handle problems, how we love on them, how we treat their mothers, how we treat our family, how we treat people that we're doing business with. They're watching everything you are doing. This clip with Brian made me think about how much of the responsibility fathers have to know that your kids are watching you 24/7. When he said that look the eight-year-old gave, every father knows that look when he come home in different ways. They're looking to see what daddy is going to come home to me today.

• 2:05:53Patrick Bet-David?

  And it's something we can always work on as fathers. Everybody can. Last story I want to get to before we wrap up is Rhonda Rousey is fighting Gina Carano, right? Which by the way, Gina came out and like I said last time, everybody was texting me telling me, man, is she single? And then she flat out said, I just got engaged. Rhonda goes out and calls out the UFC. And is this it, Rob? The fight between, uh, uh, uh, which one is it, Rob?

• 2:06:20Tom Ellsworth?

  So I have two separate clips. The first one is her talking about the UFC's terrible pay for fighters.

• 2:06:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Is this it?

• 2:06:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep.

• 2:06:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Play the clip. Go for it.

• 2:06:29Speaker 07

  It's just not about putting on the best fights possible anymore. Dana isn't the owner and he isn't calling the shots and he isn't running things that the way that he wants. Um, because he's, uh, he's an employee of the company. It was a big mistake of theirs to not let him just run, run things the, the way that he always has. Oh, he knows the, the White House card sucks.

• 2:06:52Speaker 07

  He knows that they were, they were pushing this for over a year and it, it fell extremely short of expectations. I mean, um, he was, he was so upset about it. He was talking about a fight falling out the day before, you know? It's a, I can. I can guarantee you, he's not, he's not happy with it either. It used to be that UFC was the best place that you could come and combat sports to, to, to make a living and be paid fairly. And now it's, um, it, it's no longer, it's one of the worst places to go. It's one of the, it's, it's why so many of their top athletes are leaving to go and, and find pay elsewhere. It's why their champions like Valentina are selling pictures of their titties on OnlyFans.

• 2:07:34Speaker 07

  You know, like the, these people are, a lot of them at, at the ground level, they can't even, they can't support their families. They're living poverty level, fighting full-time. This company just got 7.7 billion dollars. There's no reason that they can't afford to pay their athletes at least a living wage.

• 2:07:54Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm happy I'm out of that.

• 2:07:56Speaker 03

  There's so much to talk about.

• 2:07:59Speaker 03

  Um, I mean, the UFC has had this problem for years. It's pretty interesting. The, I'll just get on with the card first, the White House card. Dana White was talking up this card like crazy. I thought for sure you're gonna have like the icons of the sport. People have been waiting for Connor to come back for a very long time. This was a perfect opportunity. That fight with Chandler has been scheduled for like seven years. Yeah, yeah. You know, John Jones should have come back. This should have been a card that had a lot of Americans. Colby Covington. You have Justin Gaige, Colby would have been great, just because of how vocal he is, but Justin, yes, he's American. But you have Ilya Topuria fighting him, who's gonna realistically wreck him. And that's now the big star in the UFC. You have Alex Pereira, who's amazing, but again, doesn't really feel like it represents America, the card.

• 2:08:44Speaker 03

  Dana White has been having problems with this kind of rhetoric for a long time where fighters are coming out and just putting down the UFC. Nganu, there are other options now for fighters. PFL, I know guys who left the UFC and went to PFL, made a million dollars. They won the PFL, they did it two years in a row. They're like, cool, I made 2 million bucks, I would have made 50,000 a fight fighting. And people are getting shelved in the UFC. So 50,000 a fight, let's say you're making, your manager takes a huge amount of that money. Your team, everything, your travel, your taxes, that's why fighters don't want to fight in New York. And then you're looking, they, they get maybe nowadays, if they're lucky, one or two fights a year. The UFC kind of became the big boy in a way that it didn't take into account, the number one thing you have is your fighters. And unless you're a mega star in the UFC, it's very hard to survive off the UFC nowadays.

• 2:09:28Speaker 03

  So 100% agree with Ron. I was surprised, I was legitimately, I expected, like, Roofie Chandler's a very weird fight. There's just nothing here that really, really calls out to me. On any other night, I would have loved to see Pereira again. I think that's a very cool fight. But people really wanted to see Pereira Jones. You have O'Malley fighting Zahabi. It's, man, they took off Ilya? Ilya's no longer on there?

• 2:09:50Patrick Bet-David?

  No, he is at the top.

• 2:09:51Speaker 03

  Oh, okay, Ilya, alright, okay. That's a big fight, but again, it doesn't feel like a White House card to me. It doesn't feel like this is-

• 2:09:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, and on the 250 year anniversary, Spaniard's gonna beat a white guy.

• 2:10:02Speaker 03

  Destroy him, by the way. If you're betting, that's gonna be like 10 to 1 odds anyway, but. It's, Tapori is such a beast. He's just, and, uh, it's interesting that there's so many other avenues-

• 2:10:12Patrick Bet-David?

  How much of this you think is, is always been there? How much of it is you think is because they have a new buyer?

• 2:10:17Speaker 03

  No, they, they started having a shift when William Morris, they sold to Endeavor. You started seeing like, the, the way that a lot of fighters used to make money was off sponsorships, where they could come in the ring with their, like, back painted. That went out. That started affecting fighter pay. And then you started having the UFC find, like, different distribution channels which affected fighter pay. So it's just, it's a progression into becoming like, and, and Dana White has a mentality, by the way, just to be fair, she's saying it's not Dana White. He does have a mentality that he's the top dog. If you want to be known, you fight in the UFC. And you put up with what it is, because when fighters do go against him and do call for things or do speak out, saying this is what I'm worth. Like, like we discussed earlier, it's crazy not to pay John Jones whatever he asks for on the White House card. It's his last fight.

• 2:11:03Speaker 03

  He's coming in, by the way, injured after not fighting for a long time, so there is a real chance he could lose against a really high level guy like Pereira. And it's just such an interesting fight. It's like the biggest night possible, and he's over there, and it's, just will become very, very resistant and very confrontational with people who challenge him. So, even now with Armin Sorokin, Armin should be fighting for the title. He's been putting Armin on the sidelines for a series of reasons. He, he, it just, there's a certain mentality there that's kind of decayed over the years. When something becomes that big, we sometimes see it. We sometimes see the people within the company-

• 2:11:35Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think's gonna happen with the Rhonda Gina fight? Do you think that's a real fight or not really?

• 2:11:39Speaker 03

  I think it's a real fight. I think it's a good fight. I think Rhonda Rousey hopefully is not delusion, making herself delusional to believe she's a striker again. seen videos of her like striking I'm like just please you're an Olympic judo she's a silver medalist in judo I think so she's unbelievable at grappling she has certain flaws in her game she never really had a good double leg takedown in judo translating into UFC into MMA you don't have the gi there's the grips are different the sweats different it changes the game but that was always her strong point she went down so I do think it's gonna be a real fight I really want to see it to be honest it's one of the more interesting fights I can watch now and I do like nostalgic fights the UFC should be focusing more on those kind of

• 2:12:17Patrick Bet-David?

  what are the chances what are the chances that last minute Dana's doing this because he wants it to come here and all of a sudden he man announces a massive fight

• 2:12:26Speaker 03

  I don't buy it

• 2:12:27Patrick Bet-David?

  you don't buy that

• 2:12:28Speaker 03

  not in a million years yeah

• 2:12:29Patrick Bet-David?

  and you know you heard about the 85,000 tickets how they're gonna be doing it Rob if you want to play this clip go ahead

• 2:12:33Speaker 00

  the way that the White House is laid out you got the White House you got the South Lawn and then there's a road and then the ellipse is a park that's right there we're gonna be ticketing 85,000 people in the ellipse and the tickets are free and we'll announce how they're we're gonna be giving them away soon but you should plan on going to Washington DC for this event um the way

• 2:12:57Speaker 03

  85

• 2:12:58Patrick Bet-David?

  85,000 and tickets are free

• 2:13:00Speaker 03

  can you imagine the security that's that is in during a war we're currently in a war and it's not gonna stop anytime soon I don't I don't believe that is a crazy security risk yeah I don't know how you vet 85,000

• 2:13:15Patrick Bet-David?

  this is what Joe had to say about it go forward

• 2:13:17Tom Ellsworth?

  you excited for the White House card that looks really good

• 2:13:20Speaker 00

  uh yes um I'm excited it's it sounds crazy I know it's gonna be very high security and high stress and weird to have a fight at the White House in the middle of a fucking war but I would hope the war will be sorted out by June but quite honestly I'm not confident that that's gonna be the case

• 2:13:39Tom Ellsworth?

  no

• 2:13:40Speaker 03

  yeah

• 2:13:40Tom Ellsworth?

  no

• 2:13:40Speaker 00

  yeah so that would be weird

• 2:13:41Tom Ellsworth?

  yeah

• 2:13:42Speaker 00

  having this very high profile event where everybody's in one place at one time right there

• 2:13:45Tom Ellsworth?

  I hadn't thought of that

• 2:13:46Speaker 00

  yeah

• 2:13:46Speaker 03

  yeah

• 2:13:47Tom Ellsworth?

  you excited for the White

• 2:13:48Speaker 03

  you haven't thought of that guess what I thought about it before I've never even seen this clip like you gotta think about that but 85 do you understand what 85,000 people looks like it's impossible and it's free yeah like what you can't you're not doing background checks on everybody I don't know what the plan is I don't know how you even I don't see how it's physically possible to have

• 2:14:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Security for an event like that in a way that it actually is fully secure. Yeah, what's this Tom?

• 2:14:15Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I think it's I think it's easy to pick on somebody like Dana White. When you take a look at all professional sports leagues. Somebody took the risk, somebody built it, somebody build it up, and there were things that came along. TV deals coming along, sponsorships come along, and then the players say, we want more of it. That's normal. That's why MLB has got the MLBPA. That's why the NBA has got players association. And they make contracts and they decide what percent of revenue is going to be players? What percent of revenue is going to be the league? But they have to remember, there is no UFC, you know, if if Dana White doesn't put it all together. And I think it's easy to pick on him and they can say, oh, I don't like how it's become.

• 2:14:56Tom Ellsworth?

  But I think at the end of the day, you got to remember that without it, there is no platform. That doesn't mean there's a saint on both sides. But the entrepreneur always takes the arrows later when it's big, you know, I think. And that's so. He's in an impossible situation for sure. He's dealing with. The people who invested, he's also dealing with the fighters. He's a very down to earth gritty guy. He speaks his mind. That's the situation today. Go back 10 years ago. Oh, my gosh, Dana got us this TV deal. Oh, my gosh, we're going to be on ESPN. Oh, my gosh, before that. And so somebody had to drive that. He was the driver of that. MMA exists because of Dana White and the early years of the UFC. Being willing and the investors, the Fertitta brothers, I believe, were the two that.

• 2:15:39Tom Ellsworth?

  They took a massive chance. No one believed the UFC would be a big sport. The problem is now that there are in fact other avenues. There is competition. You have 1FC, which is massive across Asia. You have PFL, you have all these other organizations that are coming up. Which is also normal market development, right? Yes, and people are leaving. There's a market, somebody says, I'm going to make something a little different and I'm going to go over here.

• 2:15:59Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, he's always said, if you want to do it better, go start a company, if you want, by the way, but. What Rhonda said there, it's very important that one thing we're leaving out. What, who is running that Netflix event? Who's the guy that's putting it together? Who was between Gina and Rhonda when they were going up and facing off? Who was right in between them?

• 2:16:20Speaker 03

  Jake.

• 2:16:21Patrick Bet-David?

  A guy named Jake Paul.

• 2:16:22Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:16:22Patrick Bet-David?

  What has Jake said about Dana and UFC the last four, five, six years?

• 2:16:26Speaker 03

  Exactly this.

• 2:16:27Patrick Bet-David?

  He's been saying a lot. He's slowed down a little bit on the criticism. I think a part of it is because Logan did a deal with Dana at UFC with Prime. And maybe a part of it was like, listen, tell your brother to kind of leave me alone a little bit. But you don't think Jake is in Rhonda's ear? You don't think Jake is in Rhonda's ear talking about what's going on with fights? And by the way, what is Rhonda and Gina gonna make in this fight? Can we find out what they're making in this fight? What are they each making in this fight?

• 2:16:54Speaker 03

  It's gonna be hard to know if they don't get back in points or if they do.

• 2:16:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, give me a high-low. I mean, there should be a guesstimation. The world, this is gonna be one of the biggest viewed fights because everybody's been wanting this fight. Of Rhonda Rousey, Gina Carano, you know, two very attractive girls going up against each other. Is there a rough rumor, ask and say, are there rumors and speculation of what it's roughly going to be? Likely be five to 10 million. Okay, and how about Gina? She previously got three million, Gina two to five million. Okay. And what's the most these two girls ever got paid? Type in what is Gina Carano and Rhonda Rousey's career earnings? What is Gina Carano and Rhonda Rousey's career earnings in UFC? And what did Gina fight? Gina fought?

• 2:17:38Speaker 03

  She fought in, no, she was before, she kind of paved the way for women in the UFC before Rhonda.

• 2:17:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Career earnings? Not just UFC, because what I'm trying to find out is what both of them got paid. Um, what are career earnings for Rousey?

• 2:18:03Patrick Bet-David?

  What does it say?

• 2:18:03Speaker 03

  18 million. That makes sense for Rhonda.

• 2:18:06Patrick Bet-David?

  She's made 18 million?

• 2:18:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:18:07Patrick Bet-David?

  From fighting? Not sponsorship, go 571, 1.8, 4.9, 4.5. So she got paid 4.9 for Rhonda, 4. uh uh Amanda Nunez, 4.5 for Holly Holm. And then she's gonna get paid, what, 5 to 10 million? How bad you think Jake wants to pay more to Rhonda than any fight she's ever gotten paid? I guarantee you Jake wants to pay more.

• 2:18:31Speaker 03

  100%, but also keep in mind though that that 4.9 million was when Rhonda was at the peak of her career.

• 2:18:36Patrick Bet-David?

  It was ridiculous.

• 2:18:38Speaker 03

  She was the ultimate megastar. She's getting 10 million now after being in WWE for whatever. Gina, Gina, I mean, there was reports when she sued Disney, allegedly she got like a huge payout where Elon funded it. Like 115 million dollars.

• 2:18:53Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what Gina's career earnings is?

• 2:18:54Speaker 03

  Probably not that.

• 2:18:55Patrick Bet-David?

  300,000 to 600,000 in eight fights.

• 2:18:58Speaker 03

  Because there was no women's, there was no mainstream women's fighting when Gina Carano was fighting. People don't, guys like Ken Shamrock, uh, don't, don't have much money. Like there's, there's guys. They were in the beginning. They were in the beginning. They built it for the people. But uh.

• 2:19:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Look, here's what I will tell you, okay? There, there are certain guys in the space that are great commissioners that have brought a lot of eyeballs to the business. There's not a better commissioner than Dana White. The one thing people forget is the following. When, when you work with somebody and you don't have anything going on in your life, and this person works their ass off to build a platform, your life changes. While you're going through the process of going from, you know, not having anything going on to all of a sudden you have so many things and everybody in your ear starts saying, Dana doesn't pay you a lot, Dana doesn't. During that period, you're in such gratitude mode. Oh my God, Dana changed my life.

• 2:19:59Patrick Bet-David?

  And then all of a sudden, people get in your ear and then you say, screw Dana. It's all his fault. I should have, you should have, we should have. And in reality, Dana working like a slave to build a platform allow you to do what you do and become who you are today. Could they have paid more and done more things? I think so. I looked at their EBITDA numbers a couple of times. I don't know what the numbers were, Tom. If you remember one time live in the old 5100 podcast said, it showed 38 to 47% on the types of money they were making. They can afford to pay more. They can afford to cut bigger contracts. They can afford to do that. But that was not their philosophy. Their philosophy was make the money outside on sponsorship.

• 2:20:40Speaker 03

  But they don't even let you do that. They don't let you come in. They have the rebox.

• 2:20:43Patrick Bet-David?

  The contracts are so controlled that it has to go through them. Look, again, capitalism is going to do its part and you have to make proper adjustments. And if that's what's going on right now, they'll have to make the decisions themselves business wise. But Dana is a G and Dana build a platform that a lot of people around the world are benefiting from and entertain. How many, how many fights can you remember where you were at and you watch, oh my God, one of those.

• 2:21:05Speaker 03

  He built you. I'm not arguing that 100%. I just worry about a lot. People don't realize what fighters go through. I've done combat sports my whole life. I wasn't even remotely close to competitive like this. I have torn ACLs, I've torn meniscus, I've herniated disc. I know guys who've been fighting and they put their, their health on the line because they believe in it. And they also want to have a better life for their families. Again, so much money is going out to their manager, so much. You want to see a fighter at the end of his career who might not have been the top five, in the top five, but was in the top 10 or top 15, who can take care of his family when his career is done. And that's what I want to see.

• 2:21:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Jake, Jake sees that as an opportunity. And if there's anybody that could pull it off, Jake's the personality. The other day Jake was on the stage with Trump and you heard what Jake, what Trump said. He says, I don't know why. I think sometime in the near future, this guy's running for office.

• 2:21:50Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 2:21:50Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, and I believe in him. And by the way, I've said this with Jake and Logan for many times. There's something very, very.

• 2:21:59Patrick Bet-David?

  likable about Jake Paul. There's something likable about him. I don't know what it is. There's something very authentic. Don't get me wrong. He's a troll. He does a stand. He plays the game. He does all that stuff. But if you're ever around him, there's something very, very attractive and likable about Jake Paul. Anyways, end of the podcast. Gang, today's what? Today's Friday. Friday the 13th. Okay, really?

• 2:22:21Speaker 03

  I didn't even realize that.

• 2:22:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Today's Friday? Yeah, it is Friday the 13th.

• 2:22:23Speaker 03

  That's bad.

• 2:22:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh oh.

• 2:22:25Tom Ellsworth?

  On behalf of the market, thank you very much for pounding that out.

• 2:22:28Patrick Bet-David?

  What do we do now? Anyways.

• 2:22:29Speaker 03

  That was so random.

• 2:22:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Have a, have a, have a great weekend. Have a great weekend. And we will do this again on Monday. God bless everybody. Take care. Bye bye, bye bye.

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