NYE Lyft Driver Lies & Sugar Daddy Scoundrels w/ KevOnStage

Happy New Year, CONgregation, let’s start the year with a bang! Laci welcomes comedian and multi-hyphenate Kevin Fredericks, aka KevOnStage (Not My Best Moment, Churchy), to help ring in the new year with all of your fantastic letters. This episode has it all: Laci faking passing out at the airport, a potential love interest, a scammy sugar daddy, a scoundrel teacher, waking up to birds in the air, and so much more! Happy holidays & stay schemin’! Check out "Not My Best Moment " with KevOnStage, an iHeartPodcasts production in collaboration with Unanimous Media, featuring new episodes available weekly on Wednesdays on YouTube. CON-gregation, catch Laci's TV Show Scam Goddess, now on Freeform and Hulu! Keep the scams coming and snitch on your friends by emailing us at [email protected]. Follow on Instagram: Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod Laci Mosley: @divalaci KevOnStage: @kevonstage Curated by Jessica Cisneros Congregation Letters by YOU

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• 1:47Laci Mosley?

  What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Scam Goddess, AKA Lacey Mosley, actress and comedian. This is a comedy show, all about robbery, fraud, and the people who practice it. Sometimes we love them, sometimes we hate them. Congregation.

• 2:05Laci Mosley?

  Stand up in your seats. Stand up in your car a- at a red light, okay? We have an actor, comedian, director, podcaster, and bestselling author joining us today. A deacon in the congregation.

• 2:29Speaker 04

  I like that.

• 2:30Laci Mosley?

  He's got his white gloves on and he is counting the money and the money was going where the money is going to go. You might recognize his voice from when he was on Last, covering the baddest bitches of pirating to ever sail the Ocean Blue, Andy Bonny and Mary Reid. He is a NAACP Image Award winning comedian and just wrapped his killer North American tour. So you know, I needed to scam him into the building and on to an episode.

• 3:04Laci Mosley?

  And he just launched his new podcast called Not My Best Moment, a show where he interviews people about the low points in their lives and careers that ultimately led to growth and success. Congregation, please, welcome back. Okay, his real name is Kevin Fredericks. I didn't know that the first time he was on the show.

• 3:30Speaker 04

  You thought it was Kevon?

• 3:32Laci Mosley?

  I was like, who is Kevin Frederick? I thought I was being Kevon. I thought I was being Kevon Stage. And I was confused in the elevator. I put my mask up. I was like, I don't know who this Kevon man.

• 3:46Laci Mosley?

  Welcome back, Kevon Stage to the show.

• 3:49Speaker 04

  Lacey, it's good to see you being your presence. Congratulations on everything you've done. I follow you in all your exploits and gallivanting across the globe. Day trips to Rome, I believe it was.

• 4:01Laci Mosley?

  Uh, Berlin.

• 4:02Speaker 04

  Berlin. You know, Europe, get him confused all the time. But it's so dope. I love this podcast, love everything you've done since. Since we last talked, you had show after show after show.

• 4:11Laci Mosley?

  You had show after show after show. Honestly. We follow each other on all the platforms, but I mostly see updates of you like, oh, come on, now he going to Sundance. Now he got this other show, this doctor show, this show over here. I was like, okay, wha- wha- wha- I'm trying to keep up.

• 4:28Speaker 04

  It's tough. It's a lot.

• 4:30Laci Mosley?

  I'm chasing you. How are you?

• 4:32Speaker 04

  I'm-

• 4:32Laci Mosley?

  What supplements are you taking? Because I'm tired as hell and I'm younger than you and I don't understand how you have this much energy.

• 4:39Speaker 04

  The thing that people, people don't believe me when I say this. I, I go to bed at like nine. That's the one thing.

• 4:47Laci Mosley?

  Jess is fist bumping.

• 4:48Speaker 04

  That's what I'm talking about, Jess. I go to bed between nine and 10 almost exclusively. If you, if I'm up past 10, something is wrong. Something is very wrong. And I know people in L.A. up till 2, 3 a.m. That just can't be me.

• 5:03Laci Mosley?

  Okay.

• 5:04Speaker 04

  I go to bed, I sleep really well.

• 5:06Laci Mosley?

  You have good sleep?

• 5:08Speaker 04

  Good sleep.

• 5:09Laci Mosley?

  You don't be having no nightmares?

• 5:11Speaker 04

  No, I, I, I dreamed last night that I was peeing. And I was so grateful that I didn't pee on myself. Because I mean, I peed so many times in this dream. I was just like in the gym and I was just peeing. They're like, hey man, we have a bathroom. I was like, I got a condition. I just have to pee right when I have to.

• 5:25Laci Mosley?

  You were in the gym and you were peeing?

• 5:26Speaker 04

  I was just in the gym peeing. And then I woke up and I was like, huh, whew. Because I, you know, your body, like, you could dream about anything. But other than that, I sleep really well. I sleep really soundly.

• 5:38Laci Mosley?

  Okay.

• 5:39Speaker 04

  That's the key. No supplements. I just, I sleep, I go to bed.

• 5:43Laci Mosley?

  And that reduces cortisol. It also reduces stress. Like, if you get a good amount of sleep at night.

• 5:48Speaker 04

  That's the thing, people, people don't be sleeping.

• 5:50Laci Mosley?

  They don't. I love the sleep where I wake up and I feel alarmed. Because I'm like, what day is it? Like, how long have I been asleep? Like, that's, that's, that, that's that good sleep. I'm like, woo, I'm afraid.

• 6:03Speaker 04

  That's that like New Year, Christmas to New Year's, where you don't know what day it is, what time it is. It's dark all the time.

• 6:09Laci Mosley?

  That's my whole life.

• 6:10Speaker 04

  Is it?

• 6:11Laci Mosley?

  I be checking in, like, is it Tuesday? Is it, what day is it?

• 6:19Speaker 04

  Lord.

• 6:20Laci Mosley?

  But I, what I wanna rid myself of is the anxiety of waking up, being afraid of what day it is.

• 6:26Speaker 04

  You're just waking up startled all the time?

• 6:28Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. You, you ain't never heard of somebody punching in the air when they, when they wake up? Like, that's how I wake up. I'll be like, ah.

• 6:38Laci Mosley?

  That's not normal, cuz that's, that's how I be waking up.

• 6:41Speaker 04

  That's not normal. It's not normal at all. That's not, no.

• 6:48Laci Mosley?

  No?

• 6:49Speaker 04

  No, you should be like, ah, good morning. It should be like that. You shouldn't be waking up with violence.

• 6:56Laci Mosley?

  He just made whiling noises.

• 6:57Speaker 04

  That's how you should wake up, with, with the peace of like, you know that song?

• 7:04Speaker 04

  The like, sun, the morning sound, the, the music, you know, it's like, dun, come on congregation, you know, like.

• 7:13Laci Mosley?

  Nobody knows what you're talking about.

• 7:14Speaker 04

  Jessica, you ain't got me?

• 7:16Laci Mosley?

  No, nobody got you. We don't know what you're talking about.

• 7:19Speaker 04

  I don't even, how do you describe it?

• 7:20Laci Mosley?

  Is it good morning, sun?

• 7:22Speaker 04

  No, it's like the morning, there's a music to it, lacy.

• 7:27Laci Mosley?

  Okay, you gonna have to tell me, but in the meantime, you also gonna have to tell me, what is your relationship with scams? Do you love them? Do you hate them? Are there any scams that are in the zeitgeist for you that you have a opinion about?

• 7:38Speaker 04

  Scammed by the New York Knicks? Did I tell you that last time?

• 7:40Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 7:41Speaker 04

  Knicks tickets?

• 7:42Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 7:43Speaker 04

  I didn't tell you last time?

• 7:44Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 7:44Speaker 04

  Oh, I got scammed good. I was in New York, this is pre-pandemic, this is probably like 2017, maybe? 2017, I'm in New York with my, my team from All Def, I worked at All Def at the time, we were working. And I was like, yo, we should go to a Knicks game, guys, like, I wanna take you guys, it'd be cool, I've never been to Madison Square Garden.

• 8:04Laci Mosley?

  Okay, personality hire.

• 8:05Speaker 04

  Yeah, big personality hire, PH, and I was like, I didn't have money to buy like, great tickets, but I could get us in.

• 8:11Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, the vibes are there.

• 8:13Speaker 04

  The vibes are there. So I see a black dude, he's, you know, this is prior to even tickets all being on like, your Apple Wallet and like, they're like, still physical tickets, so this might have been 2016, so I see a black dude, uh, scalping tickets. And I'm like, yo, can I get some tickets? He was like, how many you need? And I was like, seven. He's like, cool, I'll get you seven and 50 bucks. I was like, perfect. He was like, that's 400 bucks. I should have known then. That's not even the math for that. That's $350.

• 8:40Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, cuz he had said one thing and then he had said another.

• 8:44Speaker 04

  And I was so excited that he had seven, that I was like, perfect. Eighteen right there. I go, get the four hundred dollars out, hand it to him. He hands me the seven tickets. I'm like, this is great. Shout out, supporting black owned business. Go inside Madison Square Garden, they pat us down, go through the middle detector. And at that point, I'm like, oh, we're good. Because they're not taking the tickets right then. We go all through the, you know, the tunnels and all that stuff to get to the game. Can you take your ticket, sir? Scan it.

• 9:18Laci Mosley?

  Oh, not at the. Oh, this was like ding.

• 9:22Speaker 04

  He looks, yeah, supposed to be ding, supposed to turn green, turns red.

• 9:27Speaker 04

  He hands me the ticket back and the ticket has two dates on it. This part that's scanning has yesterday's date on it. And the part that's like where, you know, Knicks versus Hornets has today's game information. So I assume they just got a whole bunch of torn ticket stubs from the previous night's game. Attach those to some like printer situation they had typed out today's stuff.

• 9:51Laci Mosley?

  Decent amount of work.

• 9:52Speaker 04

  Decent amount of work. I just thought on the black side of things, he wouldn't do his brother like that. I was wrong. Lacey, there was like six people selling tickets outside when we bought our tickets. We walked back out, by the time we get out there, all gone. Puff of smoke, never existed. And I stood there, four hundred dollars lighter in the pocket and no Knicks game. And there's no happy ending. Like, we just didn't go.

• 10:19Laci Mosley?

  You have to leave.

• 10:22Laci Mosley?

  You need to leave.

• 10:24Speaker 04

  They're just like, yeah, man, I don't, these are bad tickets. And then we just was like, all right, well, good night. And we just went back to our hotel. And then later on, the Knicks, like, I tweeted about it and they're like, we should invite you to a game. You can come on us. And I've never been able to go. It's been like eight years now.

• 10:43Laci Mosley?

  I mean, the Knicks need as much energetically.

• 10:46Speaker 04

  I know.

• 10:48Laci Mosley?

  Cause they've been suffering. They they're like.

• 10:50Speaker 04

  They're good now.

• 10:52Laci Mosley?

  But they're doing better.

• 10:53Speaker 04

  They're doing better, you know?

• 10:54Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 10:55Speaker 04

  And I was really hurt.

• 10:56Laci Mosley?

  Cowboys fan, we've been suffering since I was born.

• 10:59Speaker 04

  Cowboys have been.

• 11:00Laci Mosley?

  We was winning when I was a baby and now.

• 11:02Speaker 04

  It's been all along. That's because I I I I know the reason why. Do you know the reason why?

• 11:08Laci Mosley?

  Jerry Jones.

• 11:09Speaker 04

  Exactly. But it's not what people think. Jerry Jones doesn't care about winning Super Bowls.

• 11:15Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 11:15Speaker 04

  Jerry Jones just wants to run a business with his kids.

• 11:17Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 11:18Speaker 04

  And and the Cowboys operate mediocrity is so lucrative. Cause it's just enough hope. They never suck so bad that the fan base is fully out.

• 11:29Laci Mosley?

  No, we're still America's team.

• 11:31Speaker 04

  Oh, one thousand percent.

• 11:33Laci Mosley?

  The Cowboys cheerleaders, even that dog.

• 11:35Speaker 04

  Biggest brand.

• 11:36Laci Mosley?

  I was a baby Cowboy cheerleader.

• 11:38Speaker 04

  Of course you were.

• 11:39Laci Mosley?

  Like I went out and I met Tony Romo and and Michael Irvin and everybody.

• 11:43Speaker 04

  You're indoctrinated.

• 11:44Laci Mosley?

  My parents might have picked me out so that they could meet them. I think that was the situation I didn't realize. But I was over there dancing. I had my little outfit on. I was doing the dance, like, period. And now they live like, the stadium lives in Frisco, Texas, which is where I'm from. So like, it's in my neighborhood now, the the.

• 12:10Laci Mosley?

  I can't stop being a Cowboys fan.

• 12:12Speaker 04

  You can't. He does just enough that the people can never fully turn on on them.

• 12:18Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 12:18Speaker 04

  And the brand is so big. It's like Lakers, Yankees, Cowboys.

• 12:23Laci Mosley?

  It's so strong.

• 12:24Speaker 04

  It's it's a billion dollar enterprise.

• 12:27Laci Mosley?

  And I love it.

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• 13:14Speaker 06

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• 13:48Speaker 05

  Learn more about how Cleveland Clinic and IBM are using AI and quantum computing to revolutionize biomedical research at ibm.com/smarttalks.

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• 14:57Laci Mosley?

  It's been a boy month. I've been with all the boys this month. I've been with Conan. I've been with all my Boston boys, Dennis Leary, everybody.

• 15:05Speaker 04

  Oh, nice.

• 15:06Laci Mosley?

  It's a kind of a boy month for me.

• 15:08Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 15:08Laci Mosley?

  I gotta ask you, how do you feel about sports gambling?

• 15:13Speaker 04

  It is, to me, the proliferation has kind of ruined certain aspects of it. The reporting on sports is always from the angle of gambling. And it's so interesting when they, they like arrested Chauncey Billups for gambling. And the segment is brought to you by DraftKings.

• 15:36Laci Mosley?

  Oh, shit.

• 15:38Speaker 04

  It's kind of hypocritical, but you're like, Chauncey Billups, this...

• 15:44Laci Mosley?

  Wait, I never put that together?

• 15:46Speaker 04

  There's a DraftKings ticker.

• 15:48Laci Mosley?

  We got a new expose by steak. What?

• 15:52Speaker 04

  ESPN Bet, the over/under on how many years Chauncey Billups is gonna do, like, I lowkey...

• 15:58Laci Mosley?

  No! No! They're betting on the prison sentence? Oh, we gotta...

• 16:03Speaker 04

  Here's my hot take, Lacey. I think gambling was better off with the mafia in Vegas only. I think the threat of getting your legs broken.

• 16:12Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, what happened to knee breaking?

• 16:14Speaker 04

  You need knee breaking, cuz now you got, you got 16-year-olds yelling at NBA players about their parlay.

• 16:21Laci Mosley?

  On Twitter.

• 16:22Speaker 04

  On Twitter.

• 16:22Laci Mosley?

  And it's like, no, you need knee breaking.

• 16:24Speaker 04

  You need Little Sal to threaten to ruin your life.

• 16:28Laci Mosley?

  You're right.

• 16:28Speaker 04

  Because that's how serious gambling is. And without Vegas, you have to get there.

• 16:32Laci Mosley?

  Uh-huh, that's what's keeping the addiction going. Because a lot of people would have left if they knew that their knee was gonna get break.

• 16:40Speaker 04

  Little, he was gonna get break. If Little Sal is hitting a baseball bat into his hand, you think twice about betting on that game.

• 16:48Laci Mosley?

  Oh, you're so right.

• 16:49Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 16:50Laci Mosley?

  Oh, man.

• 16:51Speaker 04

  I'm not saying the mob is good.

• 16:53Laci Mosley?

  No, no, we're not advocating for the mob. Although, if the mob wants to come after me, I love the mob. Like, let's just... Hey, the mob is so cool and so fun. So handsome. That Tony, I love you.

• 17:06Speaker 04

  That Tony, little Sal.

• 17:07Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 17:08Speaker 04

  You need those. It's like, did you hear that? Um, there's this theory that Ellen DeGeneres, she was a needed part of the creator ecosystem. She would take viral people, they'd go on her show and then they'd disappear. And because there's no Ellen, they just stay around forever.

• 17:24Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 17:25Speaker 04

  They get podcasts and shows.

• 17:26Laci Mosley?

  Honestly.

• 17:27Speaker 04

  Ellen would have had them out in three minutes in a segment. But because there's no Ellen, they're running rampant.

• 17:32Laci Mosley?

  We might need her back.

• 17:34Speaker 04

  She's an apex predator.

• 17:35Laci Mosley?

  We, listen.

• 17:36Speaker 04

  Damn, Daniel, he's out of here. You get to Ellen, that's it.

• 17:40Laci Mosley?

  Right. You know I had to do it to him. He did it to him one time and then, and then we didn't let him do it to him again. He was gone. You're absolutely right.

• 17:48Speaker 04

  Telling you, Ellen and the mob.

• 17:49Laci Mosley?

  We need that back.

• 17:49Speaker 04

  Necessary.

• 17:50Laci Mosley?

  Honestly, I'm tired of going to the hospital and being scared that my nurse is gonna be doing a TikTok video. Like, I, like, come on, can you just give me my medication?

• 18:00Speaker 04

  Damn.

• 18:01Laci Mosley?

  Why you dancing? Like, we need to get rid of that aspect of society.

• 18:06Speaker 04

  I agree. Did you see when the nurses were taking, making a TikTok of the vaginal fluid?

• 18:11Laci Mosley?

  Yes, I talked about that recently.

• 18:13Speaker 04

  Hipper, y'all, that's my V flu.

• 18:16Laci Mosley?

  Yo, literally went to school for this and you had to go to after school. You couldn't even, like, you went to all the schools we went to.

• 18:22Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 18:22Laci Mosley?

  Then you had to go to extra school.

• 18:24Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 18:25Laci Mosley?

  To get your degree. And now you gonna risk all that shit?

• 18:28Speaker 04

  For a TikTok?

• 18:29Laci Mosley?

  For a TikTok?

• 18:30Speaker 04

  Vaginal fluid for a TikTok? Vaginal fluid, Lacey? Where's the line?

• 18:35Laci Mosley?

  I don't, if the line ain't vaginal fluid.

• 18:38Speaker 04

  Fluid, that's what the whole TikTok was about.

• 18:40Laci Mosley?

  But it was also like, they, they put a lot of, you don't.

• 18:44Speaker 04

  This is the music. This is the morning song.

• 18:50Speaker 04

  My melody was off with this. What did you even search to find this?

• 18:55Laci Mosley?

  Justin Rich are insane.

• 18:56Speaker 04

  This is what you're supposed to wake up.

• 18:58Laci Mosley?

  Found this.

• 18:59Speaker 04

  This is it. This is like birds. Peer Gant number one. Peer Gant, it's classical music? I put music, morning music that you hear in cartoons. That's what I Googled. That is it. This is like orange juice.

• 19:10Laci Mosley?

  The birds are singing.

• 19:11Speaker 04

  The sun is, this is how you should be waking up, Lacey.

• 19:14Laci Mosley?

  Okay, I, oh, I'm not waking up like that.

• 19:17Speaker 04

  This is how you should be like.

• 19:18Laci Mosley?

  I'm waking up to Montalio. I'm waking up to like something violent. Like, like, ah, ah, ah. Like.

• 19:27Speaker 04

  This is how I wake up.

• 19:29Laci Mosley?

  I hate it, but like.

• 19:30Speaker 04

  This is how I wake up.

• 19:31Laci Mosley?

  I don't get out of bed. I fall out of bed after punching. Like I punched the air a lot and then I fall over and then I'm like, ooh, it's time to get up.

• 19:39Speaker 04

  You look like a drunk.

• 19:42Speaker 04

  You're just drunk from the night before. I told you, I bet five dollars on the cowboy. Where's my cigarettes?

• 19:49Laci Mosley?

  I wake up angry. I don't like it, but it's my life. I think I need to stop watching TikTok before bed. Because they be telling me everything. Woo, child. So let's get to my favorite part of the show. Congregation. I told you, I promised you that we were gonna have a special episode and I am doing this special episode with Kev. Because he is so special.

• 20:14Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 20:17Laci Mosley?

  I'm sorry, I just had a thought. I'm gonna say it.

• 20:19Speaker 04

  Say it.

• 20:20Laci Mosley?

  You're like if the honey bun baby came to life as a human being, an adult. I'm sorry.

• 20:29Speaker 04

  The honey bun baby?

• 20:32Laci Mosley?

  You look like a honey bun. I'm so sorry.

• 20:37Laci Mosley?

  It's so beautiful.

• 20:38Speaker 04

  Funny though, let's say, I kid you not, that is not even the first time I've heard that. That's what's wild about it. It's such an obscure thought, but the fact that you might be the third person to be like, you look like if a honey bun came alive. Oh my God, I really do look like that.

• 20:57Laci Mosley?

  The honey bun baby.

• 20:59Speaker 04

  I've never saw it. He's so warm.

• 21:02Laci Mosley?

  That beautiful skin, those jubilant cheeks. You're the honey bun baby.

• 21:08Speaker 04

  Oh my God.

• 21:10Laci Mosley?

  I'm sorry, I have ADHD and it was distracting. I had to get it off of my brain.

• 21:15Speaker 04

  Funny.

• 21:16Laci Mosley?

  So, okay.

• 21:17Speaker 04

  Man, that was three years ago?

• 21:20Laci Mosley?

  What?

• 21:20Speaker 04

  That's very funny. Your producing team is on top of it today.

• 21:23Laci Mosley?

  They are, listen.

• 21:24Speaker 04

  They're two for two, the music and the baby.

• 21:26Laci Mosley?

  Just a little play.

• 21:26Speaker 04

  This is, this is fantastic.

• 21:28Laci Mosley?

  So, Happy New Year congregation. I know last year was so ghetto, but we're in 2026 now and maybe, just maybe, this could be our year. Let's, let's live in the Lulu and, and think it's gonna be our year, cuz maybe that'll work, okay? Sometimes the Lulu works, okay? I'm, I'm somebody who was at five years old, like, I wanna be an actor on the TV. The Lulu helped me a lot in my life, so maybe it'll help us. So for the new listeners tuning in for the first time, welcome, welcome, welcome. We're manifesting a good year for you and thanks for stopping by today. We'd love if you stayed. Also, y'all need to put some reviews on the Apple Podcasts, on whatever you listen to this on.

• 22:12Laci Mosley?

  Y'all have been doing it for years, but like, don't forget, okay? I'm just reminding you. And keep writing in your scams, [email protected]. I know we haven't done a listener letter episode for a while, but we're doing this with Kev. It's so special. We're gonna get all of his advice, so let's go. And remember, this is a comedy show where we learn about people who have way too much audacity. Or maybe they're writing them out. Maybe we mirror them, but like, legal ways? I don't know. Okay, so we're starting with Lyft driver scam in Miami. Kev, can you give this man a fake name?

• 22:47Speaker 04

  Fredro.

• 22:49Laci Mosley?

  Fredro? Is that a real name?

• 22:52Speaker 04

  Yes, Fredro Starr. I was gonna change his last name. Okay, let's go, let's go, last name first. Jenkins McHenry.

• 22:58Laci Mosley?

  Jenkins McHenry.

• 22:59Speaker 04

  Yeah, I like, I like that.

• 23:01Laci Mosley?

  So, I'm flying back early to my home in Miami after the weekend gone wrong in Houston, visiting an ex to rekindle things. This is Frederick McHenry talking.

• 23:11Speaker 04

  Jenkins.

• 23:12Laci Mosley?

  Oh, I'm going with Fredro.

• 23:14Speaker 04

  Fredro McHenry, okay.

• 23:15Laci Mosley?

  I like Fredro.

• 23:16Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 23:17Laci Mosley?

  I'm flying back early to my home in Miami after a weekend gone wrong in Houston, visiting an ex to rekindle things. That's the real scam. Yeah, why you rekindling? If the flame out, the flame out. Like, if your ex lives in a different state and wants to rekindle, but doesn't buy you a plane ticket to pick you up in a PJ, just stay home. After flying three hours on full-spirit flight, AKA the bus of the sky, all in caps, I finally set my feet back in sweet, sweet Miami. I call a Lyft, I wait for my car. While I'm waiting, I get a notification that I've been upgraded to a black car for free, in caps.

• 24:01Laci Mosley?

  Things were looking up for me, or so I thought.

• 24:08Laci Mosley?

  My ride pulls up, I hop in, it's decked out, black Escalade Miami style. I got legroom for days, the ceiling is twinkling in little LED stars, the radio is blasting reggaeton. I get home fast, like, concerningly fast, because we didn't die. Okay, that was driving real quick. I wake up the next morning with a customer support email from Lyft. When I opened it, I was notified that I was hit with a $150 cleaning charge. At first, I thought, did my suitcase scuff the leather seat? Did my LV bag clasp the paint? Did my La Boo Boo shed?

• 24:52Laci Mosley?

  Now the rich indicators.

• 24:55Laci Mosley?

  La Boo Boo shed is crazy.

• 25:00Laci Mosley?

  So, the email included photo attachments of vomit covering the seat and door of the driver's side backseat.

• 25:09Speaker 04

  This is a great scam.

• 25:11Laci Mosley?

  First of all, I have never thrown up in a ride share. Second of all, I get delayed motion sickness, like, hours after riding in a car. Could I have done this? No, I throw up in my own home, like an adult.

• 25:27Laci Mosley?

  Period. Honestly, period. I throw up in my own home like an adult.

• 25:32Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 25:33Laci Mosley?

  You have children.

• 25:33Speaker 04

  I have children and a dog.

• 25:35Laci Mosley?

  Have they thrown up somewhere where you were like, they'll throw up here?

• 25:39Speaker 04

  The, the, the dog throws up more than my kids.

• 25:43Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. What you feeding the dog?

• 25:45Speaker 04

  Dog gets into stuff, man.

• 25:47Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 25:47Speaker 04

  The dog gets into stuff. My wife actually, I wouldn't say trained him to throw up in the toilet. One time she made him get to the toilet and he literally threw up in the toilet. She was like, dang, shout out to you. He was like, this is crazy.

• 25:58Laci Mosley?

  And now he got to the toilet.

• 26:00Speaker 04

  So, but no, the kids don't really throw up that much. After being babies, they, they, they kind of stopped. But the dog throws up a lot. Not a lot.

• 26:08Laci Mosley?

  Spit up.

• 26:09Speaker 04

  Yeah, that was spit up. But they don't really be throwing up. No, not really.

• 26:12Laci Mosley?

  Hmm. I got, I got some individuals in my family who be throwing up too much.

• 26:18Speaker 04

  Drinking?

• 26:19Laci Mosley?

  Nah.

• 26:19Speaker 04

  Just, just gastrointestinal issues?

• 26:22Laci Mosley?

  They be catching stuff in the air.

• 26:24Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 26:25Laci Mosley?

  In the air and throwing up.

• 26:26Speaker 04

  That, that don't really happen that much in my life.

• 26:28Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I want it to stop happening in my life.

• 26:34Laci Mosley?

  But training your dog to go to the toilet is brilliant.

• 26:37Speaker 04

  Yeah. She didn't really, she just got him one time. Well, he started doing the like, I don't know what that is.

• 26:43Laci Mosley?

  That's getting ready is when the, the salivation starts to happen. Yeah.

• 26:48Speaker 04

  She got into the toilet. He threw it in there. He was like, this is crazy. I'm not doing that anymore.

• 26:51Laci Mosley?

  You guys are good dog owners.

• 26:53Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 26:55Laci Mosley?

  And black dog owners, because all we black dog owners be like, no, no, no, you going to the toilet. So like, you got to go in, in the bathroom right now.

• 27:08Laci Mosley?

  Come on, Trayvon. Get, get, get, get in here in the toilet.

• 27:16Laci Mosley?

  So, that's crazy.

• 27:19Laci Mosley?

  Third, they got a third. They said, I was sitting on the other side of the backseat. Don't play with me.

• 27:24Speaker 04

  Right.

• 27:25Laci Mosley?

  Also to note, I was dropped off at 11:30 PM and the incident wasn't reported by the driver until midnight thirty.

• 27:32Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 27:33Laci Mosley?

  An hour later, according to the email. I responded to the email, but I felt pretty bleak about the outlook of my claim. I opened up my Lyft app next, and that's when I saw it. Lyft wants me to rate my driver.

• 27:48Speaker 04

  Oh, wow.

• 27:48Laci Mosley?

  Oh, boy. I never rated the driver when I got home because I fell asleep. Out of pure rage, I gave him one star and start listing boo-cool reasons why he sucks. Speeding? Yes. Rude? Well, yes. You trying to scare me? Discrimination and harassment? Sure.

• 28:20Laci Mosley?

  You think you can scam this gay boy into Garfield crop top thick again?

• 28:29Speaker 04

  Why was the Garfield crop top? That piece of information?

• 28:33Laci Mosley?

  He hates Mondays.

• 28:38Speaker 04

  Oh, man.

• 28:41Laci Mosley?

  After chatting, I said, yes, I feel unsafe. This man is trying to steal my money. She said, let me escalate this to our security team. After chatting with the security team rep, they offered me a $25 credit to refund the ride. And I was like, okay, but what about my $150?

• 29:04Speaker 04

  Go take that out of there.

• 29:05Laci Mosley?

  I gotta read it in caps when it's in caps.

• 29:07Speaker 04

  For sure.

• 29:08Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, what about his hundred? Like, give him his hundred fifty back. And they said that that would have to be reviewed by claims and losses teams and could take up to two weeks to reach a decision. It's so funny. They'll take your money real fast, but to give it back.

• 29:22Speaker 04

  Oh, that giving it back will take forever, if they ever do.

• 29:24Laci Mosley?

  They're like five to seven business months.

• 29:26Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 29:29Laci Mosley?

  Well, can we, y'all can't do this faster? Okay. Y'all took my money real fast, but, okay. I said, I need you to escalate the claim and chat with lost claim team lead immediately.

• 29:42Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 29:43Laci Mosley?

  They said, please hold. After waiting and chatting a few more messages, Lyft ruled in my favor right then and there on the app chat. They also said the driver would be banned from Lyft community for violating community guidelines.

• 30:01Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 30:01Laci Mosley?

  The moral of the story, when in doubt, escalate.

• 30:05Speaker 04

  Absolutely, escalate.

• 30:06Laci Mosley?

  And the second moral, I guess, record your ride, share your rides, or take exit selfies. So you have receipts about you left the car if they try to scam you. That's, I'm reading it as it lays. Okay, how do you think about this?

• 30:25Speaker 04

  I, at first, I thought that was a pretty good scam because you, you don't really take a picture getting out of a Uber or Lyft.

• 30:34Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 30:34Speaker 04

  Unless something has happened.

• 30:36Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 30:36Speaker 04

  So, and if you are drunk, I would assume you wouldn't remember if you threw up in there, maybe you would. Um, and I also think most people just don't follow up with stuff. But if you cost me a hundred and fifty bucks, I'm, I'm following up.

• 30:50Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 30:51Speaker 04

  But other than that, the thing that I don't understand is if somebody really threw up in your car, you can always, you know, Lyft driver can always say, hey, it's, this just happened, here's a picture, metadata, metadata. You know what I'm saying? But the fact that he didn't win the scam and he got kicked off the Lyft, it's not a good repeatable scam. I think the stakes were too high. Like, if it's just stars, people might not complain, but a hundred and fifty bucks, I'm gonna say something.

• 31:18Laci Mosley?

  I lowkey wonder if he's done this before.

• 31:21Speaker 04

  I, I'm gonna tell you, I, I think, I'm not.

• 31:23Laci Mosley?

  And it was successful and nobody bothered him about it.

• 31:26Speaker 04

  I'm not like a escalate person, but I think I would escalate off a hundred and fifty dollars. And if I thought it would mess up my ability to use Uber or Lyft, which is very important to my life, I for sure would escalate. And I almost got in a fight with an Uber driver one time.

• 31:40Laci Mosley?

  Oh?

• 31:40Speaker 04

  Yeah, in North Carolina.

• 31:42Laci Mosley?

  What?

• 31:42Speaker 04

  I was eating, it was a little bit my fault. I was eating, I was really hungry and I was eating those granola bars where the stuff gets everywhere.

• 31:52Laci Mosley?

  The nature ones?

• 31:53Speaker 04

  Nature and I, he was like, don't get it in my car.

• 31:55Laci Mosley?

  You only get half of that bar, cuz it just be crumbling when you take a bite, it's just like everywhere.

• 32:00Speaker 04

  But Nancy, I was so hungry and I had a show and I was like, if I don't eat this little bar before the show, I'm gonna be hungry for like another hour and a half.

• 32:07Laci Mosley?

  You needed it.

• 32:08Speaker 04

  So he was like, don't let that spill. And I was like, I'm not.

• 32:11Laci Mosley?

  How you gonna tell somebody not to let a nature bar spill? Like, bro, it's gonna spill. It's literally this, what the design is. Like, what do you mean?

• 32:20Speaker 04

  It's like telling a dog not to bark.

• 32:22Laci Mosley?

  Don't you get a crumb in my car. I, I don't know how to stop that.

• 32:27Speaker 04

  And he was like, I spilled, like seven crumbles. But I was, I, I swiped. I wasn't gonna leave him just crumbles McGee. I was cleaning out my seat. But he got out the car and he walked up to me like fist ball. And a lot of times, people think I'm smaller than I really am. And I don't think he paid attention when I got in the car.

• 32:49Laci Mosley?

  No, you're a big man.

• 32:50Speaker 04

  I'm a big guy. I'm six foot two seventy. That's bigger than most people. Outside of NBA players and professional athletes.

• 32:57Laci Mosley?

  We kinda have the opposite energy.

• 32:58Speaker 04

  You one thousand percent come, you come across like a tall person.

• 33:03Laci Mosley?

  And you come across like you are shorter, but you're not. You're like a big man.

• 33:09Speaker 04

  I come across like the honey baby that I am. People always think I'm small online. They're always surprised.

• 33:13Laci Mosley?

  And people always think I'm tall and they're surprised when they see me. Allegedly that I'm small.

• 33:19Speaker 04

  Yeah, allegedly, allegedly. And he walked up to me, he had his fist ball, and I was like, what's up? It was outside a church too.

• 33:27Laci Mosley?

  Oh my god.

• 33:28Speaker 04

  It's just, you don't wanna get in a fight in a, in a church parking lot. Uh, and then he just changed his mind.

• 33:34Laci Mosley?

  Fight in a church parking lot is crazy.

• 33:36Speaker 04

  And I cleaned it out. Like, I'm not crazy. But again, had I did my crumbles and he took a picture, I would've been like, dang, that's right. You know what I'm saying? I did, I did spill crumbles in your car. But other than that, I'll be caring about.

• 33:48Laci Mosley?

  He's just trying to get some energy before praise and worship.

• 33:50Speaker 04

  Man, come on. I'm hungry.

• 33:53Laci Mosley?

  Don't make me knock you out in the name of the Lord.

• 33:57Laci Mosley?

  Like.

• 34:00Laci Mosley?

  Fist of cuffs in his name is crazy.

• 34:01Speaker 04

  It is absolutely asinine. Absolutely asinine.

• 34:06Laci Mosley?

  Melodies from heaven.

• 34:08Speaker 04

  Those aren't the melodies that we're talking about.

• 34:12Laci Mosley?

  But it's just fists.

• 34:13Speaker 04

  Right, just fists, thuds on flesh.

• 34:17Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 34:17Speaker 04

  That's not what you want. That's not what Kirk was talking about. For sure. I know. That's not what he meant.

• 34:21Laci Mosley?

  He was about to have to rain down on him.

• 34:23Speaker 04

  He's talking about blessing, not fists.

• 34:30Laci Mosley?

  Robbery.

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• 37:25Laci Mosley?

  So, we have another one.

• 37:27Speaker 04

  All right, let's do it.

• 37:28Laci Mosley?

  Sugar Daddy with a Twist.

• 37:29Speaker 04

  Oh, yes.

• 37:30Laci Mosley?

  Is what it's called.

• 37:30Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 37:31Laci Mosley?

  So it says, "Hi, scam goddess, I'm very what? Yes, excited to tell you about the scam that happened to me some time back. Happy New Year." Okay, so boom. Now we know it's a black person.

• 37:42Speaker 04

  Absolutely.

• 37:43Laci Mosley?

  As soon as I hear, "Okay, so boom."

• 37:45Speaker 04

  That comes with the clap, by the way. You can't hear it because it's written.

• 37:49Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, but it's there. Okay, so boom.

• 37:52Speaker 04

  Boom. Now, story.

• 37:56Laci Mosley?

  My then-boyfriend, low-key... Okay, I'm gonna say what it says, yep. Low-key fuck him, but that's a whole different scam. So we don't like the then-boyfriend.

• 38:11Speaker 04

  No.

• 38:11Laci Mosley?

  Obviously, the ex-boyfriend. Was living with me, and we were talking about more ways to make money while scrolling IG. I see some old white man has followed my main page, and I was thinking, "What the fuck?" Then he messaged my personal number with iMessage email saying how beautiful I am and was asking if I'd ever had a sugar daddy before. Okay.

• 38:36Speaker 04

  Nice intro.

• 38:37Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, hey, you pretty. Have you ever had a sugar daddy who pays for?

• 38:41Speaker 04

  Let's get to it. Let's get to the point.

• 38:43Laci Mosley?

  He, he just get, you know what I mean?

• 38:45Speaker 04

  Let's not, let's not, ceremony. No, let's, let's, let's get to it.

• 38:48Laci Mosley?

  So, mind you, I'm like eighteen, nineteen at the time.

• 38:52Speaker 04

  Oh damn.

• 38:52Laci Mosley?

  And this man is clearly forty plus. But he clocked my Desbo meter because I needed money that bad. Shaking my head. We start chatting and Mr. Scam is telling me how he doesn't want anything sexual, just someone to talk to and care about him. So I tell him, I can do that and led the conversation towards my compensation.

• 39:15Laci Mosley?

  You gotta lead the conversation towards your compensation.

• 39:18Speaker 04

  Package.

• 39:22Laci Mosley?

  I've been locked in on TikTok, Kev. There is a whole new revelation of like women who were trad wives, which means like traditional stay-at-home mom type situation. They weren't getting paid a salary from their husband who was working, anything like that. Then, once they aged out of being a baddie, their husband's now divorcing them.

• 39:44Speaker 04

  Really?

• 39:45Laci Mosley?

  Yes, and they ain't got no money and no skills and they've been out the workforce for a long time.

• 39:49Speaker 04

  But they know how to make cereal from scratch.

• 39:51Laci Mosley?

  That's a job. Being at home, working at home is a job.

• 39:54Speaker 04

  One thousand percent. I was a stay-at-home dad for like two years.

• 39:57Laci Mosley?

  Oh my God, that's beautiful.

• 39:58Speaker 04

  I, it was hard as crap. It was really hard. I made my wife's lunch, the boys' lunch, walked them to school. One time, I really got my life together because I gave my wife her lunch and she kissed me on the forehead. And I was like, I can't do this. This is just like, I did my part. I learned so many crock pot recipes. I could make four hundred thirteen things in a crock pot. I don't care if the house smells like beef for six hours. I know how to get a crock pot going. So I truly understand how hard that is. There's not that much time.

• 40:28Laci Mosley?

  Skills. Like you can hire people to do those things. You can hire a sex worker. You can hire a housekeeper.

• 40:35Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 40:35Laci Mosley?

  You can hire someone to take care of your children. It's way more expensive.

• 40:41Laci Mosley?

  Than having your wife stay at home.

• 40:43Speaker 04

  One thousand percent.

• 40:44Laci Mosley?

  Oh, oh, also she organizing all the appointments and stuff.

• 40:47Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 40:47Laci Mosley?

  That's admin.

• 40:48Speaker 04

  One thousand.

• 40:49Laci Mosley?

  Hire admin, all of that, it's, it's heavy.

• 40:51Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 40:52Laci Mosley?

  But champ.

• 40:55Laci Mosley?

  He would never, guys, he would never is a scam phrase.

• 40:59Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 40:59Laci Mosley?

  He would never, he's a he, he always gonna ever. Like, don't, don't even put that in your lexicon, okay? Have yourself some mad money, get yourself a stash, even if you wanna work from home, like, put a little, put a little in a shoebox, far away.

• 41:17Speaker 04

  He would ever. That's like the Danish deception, did you see that?

• 41:21Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 41:22Speaker 04

  You didn't see this? Where you been, in Ireland or something?

• 41:25Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 41:26Speaker 04

  There was a whole TikTok, it was like thirty parts, this girl got scammed by this Danish prince, she's, he's scamming around like three hundred grand or something like that.

• 41:34Laci Mosley?

  Oh.

• 41:35Speaker 04

  It was like twenty-eight parts on TikTok.

• 41:37Laci Mosley?

  Listen, I'm not gonna judge, cuz I know my granny was spinning up in her grave, cuz I've given money to men. I've flown men places, I've paid for men's dinners, I have.

• 41:47Speaker 04

  Lacey, you a flyer outer? You don't strike me as a fly outer.

• 41:52Laci Mosley?

  Listen.

• 41:53Speaker 04

  None of them, mostly.

• 41:55Laci Mosley?

  When I need what I need, when I need it.

• 41:57Speaker 04

  What you say, y'all know about this? Jess, y'all don't know Lacey flying people out? Did you know?

• 42:04Laci Mosley?

  Let y'all shake y'all's hands, okay?

• 42:07Speaker 04

  Are you flying Comfort Plus Main, first class?

• 42:10Laci Mosley?

  Business, yeah.

• 42:11Speaker 04

  Business class? Oh my!

• 42:14Laci Mosley?

  Just to get disrespected, yeah.

• 42:16Speaker 04

  Lacey!

• 42:17Laci Mosley?

  I know.

• 42:18Speaker 04

  You gotta let them get upgraded by the airline, you can't fly in business, you gotta let the airline make that choice. You can't predo, there's nothing for the airline to do if you put it in first class by yourself. You let them say, hey, we got, somebody didn't come, you can sit up here with us. You can't do that, there's no one for them to go.

• 42:34Laci Mosley?

  I know, I know.

• 42:36Speaker 04

  You are doing a lot.

• 42:40Speaker 04

  This is insane on the new year.

• 42:42Laci Mosley?

  I'm not doing it no more.

• 42:44Speaker 04

  When was the last time?

• 42:45Laci Mosley?

  In 2025. We in 2026 now. I don't do that no more.

• 42:50Speaker 04

  New year, new lady.

• 42:51Laci Mosley?

  I'm that black lady climbing up the steps, okay? I got a new life. I got a new life.

• 42:55Speaker 04

  I love that meme. She never gets through. She never gets better. Every year she picks up new stuff.

• 43:03Laci Mosley?

  She does. New baggage, but she's still climbing. She's still going up them steps. And that's why I respect her.

• 43:11Speaker 04

  I haven't seen it yet.

• 43:12Laci Mosley?

  Don't, don't play with me, Cam.

• 43:14Speaker 04

  I love her.

• 43:15Laci Mosley?

  I'm not going back.

• 43:16Speaker 04

  All right. And if you do, just coach.

• 43:20Laci Mosley?

  No, I'm not. I'm not going back.

• 43:22Speaker 04

  Oh, you're not flying me at all?

• 43:23Laci Mosley?

  Oh, okay. Why you gotta keep saying flying them out?

• 43:26Speaker 04

  I mean, you, that's.

• 43:27Laci Mosley?

  Rich, stop laughing.

• 43:28Speaker 04

  Let's not stand on ceremony.

• 43:32Speaker 04

  I didn't strike, you didn't strike me.

• 43:35Laci Mosley?

  I know. I'm too baddie. I'm such a baddie. I shouldn't be doing that, but.

• 43:39Speaker 04

  This is great. We're all human.

• 43:40Laci Mosley?

  I know, it's like convenient. Oh, wow. I've humanized myself to you.

• 43:44Speaker 04

  You really have. I'm like, now we can be friends in real life. Cause before this, I was like, oh, she's just on a pedestal. She's this very serious actress. You're flying people out? They're game night. Come on over. You're regular. Now, now you're a regular person to me. Once I see some flaws, now you can come play taboo. Now I can trust you. When you seem like you got it all together, it's something I don't know. Now that I know, now you can come play taboo. You can play werewolf. I can trust you around the kid.

• 44:11Laci Mosley?

  Oh, my God. Oh, no. I don't like that this is how I get to come over to game night. I've been itching for that invitation.

• 44:21Speaker 04

  You just crossed over from industry friend to potential regular life friend. This one realization.

• 44:26Laci Mosley?

  She's crazy. That's, okay, she can be around us. She's nuts. Great. Like, she's crazy. We thought she wasn't. I thought she was a machine. Got everything right. No, she's nuts, okay?

• 44:37Speaker 04

  Now we know you are a human being.

• 44:38Laci Mosley?

  Any wedding rings?

• 44:39Speaker 04

  No. I love this for you. This is your life. You could do that.

• 44:43Laci Mosley?

  He don't even got no unmarried friends, so I'ma go to gay night just to have fun.

• 44:48Speaker 04

  I'm sorry. I don't have a lot of single guys.

• 44:51Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 44:52Speaker 04

  I'm sorry.

• 44:53Laci Mosley?

  Guys or women? I'm pansexual. It's a people person.

• 44:56Speaker 04

  Now, I might be able to get you some women.

• 44:58Laci Mosley?

  Okay, I might be able to.

• 44:59Speaker 04

  I didn't know you was pan.

• 45:00Laci Mosley?

  I'm pan.

• 45:01Speaker 04

  You pan?

• 45:02Laci Mosley?

  I like people.

• 45:02Speaker 04

  Did you ever fly women out?

• 45:04Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 45:06Speaker 04

  Nah, I'll probably get you some women. Now, that, I got some women friends that I don't mind setting up.

• 45:12Laci Mosley?

  I'm great.

• 45:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, I didn't know.

• 45:15Laci Mosley?

  This can't be poor.

• 45:16Speaker 04

  Oh, no, no. They got bread.

• 45:17Laci Mosley?

  Okay, great.

• 45:18Speaker 04

  They got bread. They bring them to the table.

• 45:19Laci Mosley?

  Look at this.

• 45:20Speaker 04

  They fly themselves out.

• 45:22Laci Mosley?

  That's what I need.

• 45:23Speaker 04

  They can meet you. Meet you in my ass.

• 45:25Laci Mosley?

  Let's meet halfway. Let's meet in the middle. So, going back to this story, okay, so boom, we know we're dealing with a black person. They got a sugar daddy situation going on. This person says, "He told me about his last sugar baby and sent me pictures of the cash he received, and their bank transactions, and my boyfriend was dead-ass coaching me so we could get that damn money."

• 45:52Laci Mosley?

  Honestly, good boyfriend. Like, participate, support.

• 45:59Laci Mosley?

  We trying to get this money.

• 46:00Speaker 04

  We trying to hit a lick, man.

• 46:02Laci Mosley?

  So then I give Mr. Scam Sugar Daddy a sob story about my life, saying, "One of my family members needs money desperately trying to guilt trip that price up." Now, I should have known it was too good to be true when he said he sent me the money, but my desk monitor was too high and my naive-ass boyfriend and I believed him. Oh, no. Y'all supposed to get...

• 46:24Speaker 04

  Wait, he didn't really have the bread?

• 46:26Laci Mosley?

  He sent me a grainy screenshot of the money sent with my name and $2,000. But then, the real scam happened. He says, "I need to send him $50 worth of Bitcoin."

• 46:39Speaker 04

  Aw, man. No, not Nigerian prince stuff. No. Not, "I gotta pay you to pay me."

• 46:48Laci Mosley?

  That's not how payment works. I don't need to pay you to pay me.

• 46:51Speaker 04

  You wouldn't, I used to work at a bank. You would not believe how many old, did I tell you this?

• 46:56Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 46:56Speaker 04

  Old people fall for that all day long.

• 47:01Speaker 04

  I'm talking about all day long, they fall for that. Send me a hundred dollars and I can send you five thousand. You have to, you have to be like, look at me. Once you send this money, you're never getting it back.

• 47:14Laci Mosley?

  Ever.

• 47:14Speaker 04

  And they be like, no, he, and I, the thing I used to help them, I would say to them, why you? Out of everybody in America? Why did this Nigerian prince find you? And they would be so hurt to be like, it's not real? People wanna feel special. They wanna feel chosen, even if it means you gotta take advantage of me. And it be, people be falling for the okie doke. Cause they think, they think things are gonna be better. No, life sucks. You're not gonna get five thousand if you give me a hundred. You're just gonna lose a hundred. It's unfortunate. People don't like you, they don't wanna help you, they wanna take advantage of you. Lead with that. Everybody's not Lacey, they're not flying you out.

• 47:57Laci Mosley?

  Happy New Year. Happy New Year. I'm not flying people out anymore, Kevin.

• 48:04Speaker 04

  That's what I'm saying, you're, you're one of the good people, everybody else is lying.

• 48:07Laci Mosley?

  Yikes.

• 48:08Speaker 04

  Honestly, I didn't see that scam coming. I thought he was a-

• 48:11Laci Mosley?

  You didn't?

• 48:11Speaker 04

  I thought he was a really a sugar daddy.

• 48:13Laci Mosley?

  I mean.

• 48:15Speaker 04

  And I don't even know how to buy Bitcoin, honestly, I wouldn't even know what to do.

• 48:18Laci Mosley?

  And also fifty dollars worth of Bitcoin, like Bitcoin, the one coin is worth way more than that right now. So like, how do you fraction off? Like you chip it off, like where do you like, how do you get?

• 48:29Speaker 04

  So true.

• 48:30Laci Mosley?

  A little fifty dollar piece of a Bitcoin?

• 48:35Speaker 04

  Fifty dollar chunk of bit.

• 48:36Laci Mosley?

  Like, what are we doing?

• 48:37Speaker 04

  Let me get a little fifty dollar of that bit, man, I'm gonna send you the cash as soon as I can.

• 48:43Laci Mosley?

  Crazy. And they said, my dumb ass then. We ain't know where it's going.

• 48:49Speaker 04

  At least they're self-aware.

• 48:54Laci Mosley?

  My dumb ass, then I get an email saying something like, "The money he sent was blocked or pending and I needed to send another fifty dollars." So I did scam goddess, that's all in caps. And I don't remember when, but at some point, me and my boyfriend realized we just got scammed out of a hundred dollars. But me girl, I'm petty. So I started calling him back to back for at least an hour. When I keep getting no answer, I spam texted him about scamming me until he responded with, "I was busy, blah, blah, blah. I'd never do that, blah, blah, blah. How could you accuse me, blah, blah, blah." But I didn't let up all day and I was going off on this motherfucker.

• 49:37Laci Mosley?

  I decided to send the message along with the lines of, "I found your IP address. I'm writing down your email and letting people know you are the cause of my death. Goodbye."

• 49:48Speaker 04

  Oh, oh dang.

• 49:51Laci Mosley?

  What?

• 49:53Speaker 04

  Did not see that. There, we raised the stakes a lot. Escalate. That was a lot.

• 49:59Laci Mosley?

  Escalate.

• 50:01Speaker 04

  Cause of my death.

• 50:02Laci Mosley?

  Cause of my death.

• 50:04Speaker 04

  You ain't even get sick first, you went straight to death. This is Joffrey cutting off Ned Stark's head like, "Hey, hey, hey, man."

• 50:11Laci Mosley?

  Just like the cause of the robbery.

• 50:15Laci Mosley?

  But my death.

• 50:17Speaker 04

  Death is egregious.

• 50:20Speaker 04

  Even in this world, that's a lot.

• 50:23Laci Mosley?

  Like, I've already sent this letter to Olivia Benson. Okay, and Stabler, they got it. Okay, so you're...

• 50:30Speaker 04

  They won't rest until they find you.

• 50:32Laci Mosley?

  Done for. What?

• 50:35Speaker 04

  Oh my god.

• 50:37Laci Mosley?

  I thought she was, like, she said she was calling them a lot. I thought we were gonna go, like, maybe mail the letter, you show up at their house.

• 50:43Speaker 04

  I greatly misunderstood how that was gonna end.

• 50:48Speaker 04

  And you got me alive to send an email, so you're just there to know when I die, it's on you.

• 50:52Laci Mosley?

  That's a special kind of petty to be like, well, I will kill myself, but sign the note that you did it.

• 51:00Laci Mosley?

  You operating on different times.

• 51:02Speaker 04

  Oh, my God.

• 51:05Laci Mosley?

  Okay. Okay. Cool. When I tell you whoever started spamming me, quickly send back the hundred dollars.

• 51:14Speaker 04

  Oh, she got it back. That's what I'm talking about.

• 51:17Laci Mosley?

  I mean, I was sending back too.

• 51:19Speaker 04

  Absolutely. I don't want those.

• 51:20Laci Mosley?

  No, I don't want to be involved in homicide. Here you go. I'm so sorry. I tried to rob you.

• 51:25Speaker 04

  Plus, I got six other scams working right now. They don't, they're not tracking IP addresses. No, no, no.

• 51:30Laci Mosley?

  We're cool. We're cool.

• 51:31Speaker 04

  For sure.

• 51:32Laci Mosley?

  Said, I ghosted them and soon after I found your podcast and joined the congregation. I've been listening ever since and there's some hearts. Oh, my goodness.

• 51:39Speaker 04

  This is fantastic. That was a great ending. That was a great story ending. She wins. That's a lot.

• 51:46Laci Mosley?

  But honestly, I understand because I would do the same thing. I have done extreme things in the past. I talked about it on this podcast. I was trying to get out of Germany and I was in the airport and they weren't helping me. And so I pretended to faint. I'm too much of an adult to be doing these kind of shenanigans, but I'm a shenanoo once, I'm a shenanoo again. And like, I just fainted.

• 52:08Speaker 04

  Like, did you fall?

• 52:10Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. My neck was hurt for a little while. No, no, I just went down quick.

• 52:17Speaker 04

  What made you think?

• 52:20Speaker 04

  What, what, what? I want to know the synapse firing process where you like, your brain was like, hey, man, we got to fake y'all. Now. We got to faint and that's going to get us out of Germany. And it worked?

• 52:34Laci Mosley?

  It did work.

• 52:35Speaker 04

  What?

• 52:37Speaker 04

  Was your acting skills on display when you came back? Were you like, oh, huh, huh? What happened? What'd you do?

• 52:45Laci Mosley?

  I was just like, they, they was playing with me. Like, I, I had tried to like bribe the little cart man in the airport to take me because like in Germany, you have to go through customs before you go back. And I was still living in Ireland. So like I had to go through customs to go back to Ireland. So it was complicated, but nobody would tell me where I was supposed to go. Like, it was like so confusing. And I had paid the little cart man to take me to the customs place because I was about to miss my flight. And he wasn't going to take me. And I was like, this is your job. You're not going to take me? And I was just like, well, what can I do to expedite this?

• 53:22Laci Mosley?

  Hey, how they gonna take me serious?

• 53:25Speaker 04

  I'll faint right.

• 53:28Speaker 04

  This is your version of you're gonna be responsible for my death. If you don't take me to customs, then I'll just faint then. Now what? Now you gonna. Now you got a medical emergency on my, on your hands. Now you gotta take me.

• 53:44Speaker 04

  Oh my god.

• 53:45Laci Mosley?

  Look, I had to get shit done. I had to get back to work. I wasn't done filming. I had to get back to Ireland. So I was like, well, I don't know how we gonna do this. I guess I just like. It was like, Kev, it was like this. It was like.

• 54:01Laci Mosley?

  It wasn't no deliriousness. I literally was just like.

• 54:05Speaker 04

  You just did narcolepsy. Oh, that is so funny. Man, I wish I was there to see that.

• 54:11Laci Mosley?

  Oh man, it was beautiful.

• 54:12Speaker 04

  That is brilliant.

• 54:13Laci Mosley?

  Probably my proudest moment.

• 54:14Speaker 04

  Oh, that's great. You deserve.

• 54:16Laci Mosley?

  My neck hurt for a little bit after that, because I really committed. I, I, I.

• 54:20Speaker 04

  Well, you gotta commit to the bit.

• 54:21Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you can't, you gotta do a full throttle.

• 54:22Speaker 04

  You can't fake faint and not go for it. They're gonna know it's a fake faint.

• 54:26Laci Mosley?

  You, yeah, exactly.

• 54:28Speaker 04

  You really gotta faint.

• 54:29Laci Mosley?

  Although, the, the, uh, lady at the, um, gate was like, oh, they told me about you, like. Just sit still and, and, and don't drink any alcohol. And I was like, I haven't been drinking any alcohol. And she was like, yeah, just sit right there so you see.

• 54:48Laci Mosley?

  Because the only possibility to them was like, this bitch must be drunk. Like, why would she do this?

• 54:53Speaker 04

  This is so funny, man. Oh, I love this.

• 54:55Laci Mosley?

  I was like, I haven't been drinking anything. I just, I'm crazy. I'm crazier than y'all. I out crazed everybody.

• 55:00Speaker 04

  Absolutely.

• 55:01Laci Mosley?

  You gotta tell me I'm in Nazi Germany. I'm not gonna have to, like, I gotta get out of here. Like, the fuck? These are my options. And everybody's like, you have more options than that. I'm like, no, I didn't.

• 55:12Speaker 04

  All kind of options.

• 55:13Laci Mosley?

  No, I didn't.

• 55:14Speaker 04

  But at the end of the day, fainting worked. So really, who?

• 55:17Laci Mosley?

  Exactly. So how you gonna challenge it?

• 55:19Speaker 04

  Fainting is a victimless crime.

• 55:21Laci Mosley?

  It is.

• 55:22Speaker 04

  Now, the people out there, she's like, she's cosplaying as a fainter. That's wrong. International Fainting Alliance, you might hear from them.

• 55:28Laci Mosley?

  Maybe fainting can be a choice sometimes, okay?

• 55:34Laci Mosley?

  Sometimes fainting is your body happens, but sometimes maybe fainting is a choice. Where you like, I can't do anymore of this. I have to faint.

• 55:45Laci Mosley?

  Why not? Why couldn't that be a choice?

• 55:50Laci Mosley?

  Now, we're gonna wrap it up. We got one more letter.

• 55:54Speaker 04

  Let's do it.

• 55:55Laci Mosley?

  Here. It's titled, "It Wasn't Even His Law."

• 56:01Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 56:03Laci Mosley?

  Let's see. Happy New Year, scam goddess. Happy New Year, Kev onstage. So, okay, here it is. This sounds like a black person too. They, we just really get to the point.

• 56:13Speaker 04

  We do.

• 56:14Laci Mosley?

  So, okay, so boom, okay, here it is. So, it was New Year Eve, and I was going to a house party with childhood friends. These parties were lit and always turned into fun ragers, but it was people we trusted. Okay, a black person raised in the suburbs.

• 56:31Speaker 04

  I don't know about ragers.

• 56:32Laci Mosley?

  Ragers is not us.

• 56:33Speaker 04

  Ragers gives me a little.

• 56:34Laci Mosley?

  But I will say like, raised in the suburbs. I'm from Frisco, Texas, this suburbs, like, might be a suburb, because we got lit.

• 56:41Speaker 04

  Would you use the word ragers?

• 56:42Laci Mosley?

  Well, we got lit and rager.

• 56:44Speaker 04

  It's like Blade. It's like a daywalker between the black.

• 56:47Laci Mosley?

  And also, she might be like, I'm black, but like, it was a rager.

• 56:50Speaker 04

  It was a rager. Fair. Okay.

• 56:52Laci Mosley?

  It wasn't a function. It was a rager.

• 56:55Speaker 04

  Suburban.

• 56:56Laci Mosley?

  Suburban. So, it was a rager.

• 56:57Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 56:58Laci Mosley?

  So, she giving, she might be giving context. So, that New Year's Eve. I decided to take my little brother with me since he was eighteen and knew all my friends. We were at the party. Everyone is vibing, taking shots, Lil' John in the background. You get it. Okay, I'm confused again. Lil' John?

• 57:15Speaker 04

  Lil' John could be anybody, though.

• 57:16Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it could be anybody. Okay. We might not ever know the race of this person.

• 57:22Speaker 04

  This is confusing.

• 57:23Laci Mosley?

  So, I'm getting litty.

• 57:26Speaker 04

  That's definitely black.

• 57:27Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, yeah, okay. And my alter ego comes out, and I start texting my professor from last semester. Okay.

• 57:36Laci Mosley?

  I was in college, winter break, and no longer his student, and he was fine.

• 57:41Speaker 04

  Definitely black.

• 57:42Laci Mosley?

  In all caps, yeah, the fine is, yeah, they're black, they're black, for sure.

• 57:46Speaker 04

  The only thing that make it for sure black is F O I N E.

• 57:49Laci Mosley?

  It's F I N E, but it's in all caps, so I'm gonna go with black in the suburbs.

• 57:52Speaker 04

  Maybe it was your pronunciation that make, that threw me off.

• 57:55Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I said, I said fine, but it was spelled as fine. Yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right.

• 58:04Laci Mosley?

  You're right about that.

• 58:09Laci Mosley?

  You're absolutely right.

• 58:12Laci Mosley?

  I gotta watch how I read things.

• 58:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, you blacked it up.

• 58:15Laci Mosley?

  Oh, I did black it up.

• 58:16Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 58:16Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, sometimes I do that. I, I, I feel like Kev, you, you're drawing it out of me more.

• 58:23Laci Mosley?

  Normally I can keep it together. Also, like, I mean, okay, I'm, I'm gonna continue with their story about the texting the professor while they were drunk, but I do have to pause and say, like, I have a knee injury and I have a new doctor who I found on Zocdoc. Shout out to Zocdoc, like, I told you I'd be using it, it's not just an ad. Child, I went into the doctor's office, this man is fine as hell, like, distractingly. Fine, like, he's smiling, teasing. I, I had a lapse in my insurance while I was in Ireland because it was auto pay and then I guess something went wrong, but I wasn't here and it went to my assistant's account and like, I ain't know.

• 59:07Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 59:08Laci Mosley?

  So I had to pay for MRI out of pocket for my knee. He called, got me a discount MRI on the phone in front of me, like, okay, like, teasing. And I was like, oh my God, this man is beautiful and he ain't got no wedding ring on. I was like, mm, when I go to my follow-up, child. Let me make sure I got that shit on, let me make sure I'm cute, because you might be my man, my man, my man, my man. What's happening? So I understand.

• 59:35Speaker 04

  Oh, that's hilarious.

• 59:37Laci Mosley?

  And listen, Kev, you can't judge me on this because I have been single for like fifteen years. And I always thought that, I have ADHD, I'm on the spectrum.

• 59:50Speaker 04

  We are.

• 59:51Laci Mosley?

  I always thought that like you meet people when you're like intentionally trying to meet people. And my mom was like, she came to me with a, like to a rap party. And she was like, well, I asked her, I was like, yo, I'm trying to like find a partnership or something like, I don't know why it's so difficult. And she was like, I watched like six different people come up to you and hit on you at that party. And you were all business. And I was like, what?

• 1:00:16Speaker 04

  Really?

• 1:00:17Laci Mosley?

  And I was like, but no, cuz cuz it was a work party. So so so we're all working. So like we're the the it's all business.

• 1:00:24Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:00:25Laci Mosley?

  And she was like, no, single people are looking for people everywhere they go, the grocery store, anywhere. You're looking for somebody to be with.

• 1:00:32Speaker 04

  You just never know. You need love.

• 1:00:35Laci Mosley?

  But I'm like, when I go to certain places, I'm like very locked off. It's like, oh, I'm here for the place.

• 1:00:42Speaker 04

  This is for the work thing.

• 1:00:43Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:44Speaker 04

  Now I'm here for the love thing.

• 1:00:45Laci Mosley?

  That's not how it works. That's crazy.

• 1:00:49Speaker 04

  Lacey, think of meet cutes. They wouldn't be meet cutes if they were meet purpose. They always gotta be like, oh, papers fell. Oh, my knee injury. My insurance lapse. I'm your doctor. They're not like, single people are like, this is an event. You can't meet cute at a purposeful event. You gotta bump into the person, literally bump into the person. Or they gotta give you a discount on your MRI. That's a great, like, also, that's a good story for a party. How'd you guys meet? Funny story. Hurt my knee. He was my doctor, gave me a discount on my MRI. That's actually original. That's a great dinner party story.

• 1:01:28Laci Mosley?

  Oh, that is.

• 1:01:29Speaker 04

  So you really gotta go back. You gotta make sure he's there for the follow up appointment. Extra moisturize, smell good.

• 1:01:37Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I got my legs waxed cuz I can't bend over in the shower cuz I might fall and die. So I got them waxed when I got my nails done. I was like, I'm gonna be like my baby, my baby.

• 1:01:47Speaker 04

  If you can't fall and die, you won't have a chance to meet him, I guess.

• 1:01:50Laci Mosley?

  Exactly.

• 1:01:53Laci Mosley?

  And I'm like, damn, like this is,

• 1:01:54Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:01:55Laci Mosley?

  This is what people be doing out here?

• 1:01:57Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:01:57Laci Mosley?

  I mean,

• 1:01:58Speaker 04

  See, that are dating app.

• 1:01:59Laci Mosley?

  You met your wife in church, right?

• 1:02:00Speaker 04

  I met my wife in high school, in 11th grade.

• 1:02:03Laci Mosley?

  It wasn't church?

• 1:02:04Speaker 04

  Mm-mm. 11th grade, Ms. Chapman's US History class.

• 1:02:08Laci Mosley?

  She's so pretty.

• 1:02:09Speaker 04

  Isn't she?

• 1:02:10Laci Mosley?

  She's so pretty.

• 1:02:11Speaker 04

  I feel like I'm not holding up my end of the bargain. She's getting like more gorgeous as we age.

• 1:02:16Laci Mosley?

  I mean, she, she lowkey is-

• 1:02:18Speaker 04

  I'm falling apart.

• 1:02:19Laci Mosley?

  No, you look great. You are still the Honey Bun Baby, but she is, she is, she's snacking on you a little bit. She's snacking on you a little bit because she's a, she's a, she's a baddie.

• 1:02:30Speaker 04

  I feel like though, as a man though, lowkey, your greatest flex is your wife is out of your league. Because women are like, oh dang, she's really gorgeous. And men are like, how did he pull her?

• 1:02:42Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:42Speaker 04

  So I really win.

• 1:02:43Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you do win.

• 1:02:44Speaker 04

  But I feel like the gap is widening.

• 1:02:46Laci Mosley?

  No, you do win for real.

• 1:02:47Speaker 04

  You win, because they're like, how'd he do that? But funny is a great equalizer.

• 1:02:51Laci Mosley?

  It is.

• 1:02:52Speaker 04

  Funny equalizes the gap.

• 1:02:54Laci Mosley?

  But she's also funny.

• 1:02:56Speaker 04

  She is.

• 1:02:58Laci Mosley?

  She's also funny.

• 1:02:59Speaker 04

  She doesn't really reveal her, her full self to the internet.

• 1:03:02Laci Mosley?

  When I was playing Uno with her, I found out the truth. She was funny as hell. And I was like, wait a minute, like, not you a baddie, and you funny? Welcome to the team.

• 1:03:14Speaker 04

  She's really funny, man. I'm telling you, I, I, I look, I, I'll kick the coverage, as they say.

• 1:03:17Laci Mosley?

  No, you, you, you deserve.

• 1:03:19Speaker 04

  Honey Bun Baby wins.

• 1:03:21Laci Mosley?

  Honey Bun Baby should win.

• 1:03:23Speaker 04

  You saw that, baby. He deserves a gorgeous woman.

• 1:03:25Laci Mosley?

  He does. You do. I know that's you secretly. I can't prove it.

• 1:03:31Laci Mosley?

  Put up that Dokes meme.

• 1:03:33Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:03:35Laci Mosley?

  But we're getting back to this last letter here, Kev.

• 1:03:38Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:03:38Laci Mosley?

  So,

• 1:03:41Laci Mosley?

  you never gave me a fake name for this person. Um, can you give me one?

• 1:03:47Speaker 04

  Yes. Was it a man or a woman?

• 1:03:48Laci Mosley?

  It doesn't matter. I don't care about gender.

• 1:03:50Speaker 04

  Tyrone.

• 1:03:51Laci Mosley?

  Tyrone. So Tyrone says, I'm getting litty. And my alter ego comes out and I start texting my professor from last semester. That's how we got into the standard.

• 1:03:59Speaker 04

  It was a girl.

• 1:04:00Laci Mosley?

  I was in college, winter break, no longer his student, and he was fine.

• 1:04:06Laci Mosley?

  Point. Anyway, we get our flirt on and I'm fully in my phone now ignoring everyone at the party, including my little brother, because remember they, Tyrone brought the little brother to the party?

• 1:04:19Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 1:04:20Laci Mosley?

  So he's being all smooth, talking about, "I'm enjoying New Year's Eve in my loft in downtown. You should come by and see the fireworks. I don't know where you live, but anybody who lives downtown is doing crime. I don't care what city it is. Give up the crime. Why are you living downtown? I'm talking to you LA as well. Why do you live downtown? You in a high-rise loft like downtown? You do crime.

• 1:04:42Speaker 04

  You definitely do crime.

• 1:04:43Laci Mosley?

  Give it up. So, they're like, "Oh, yeah. Oh, damn it." And I'm right. Next thing you know, I'm in an Uber headed to his loft in downtown LA. I fucking knew it. I knew it.

• 1:04:57Speaker 04

  That's your moment strikes again.

• 1:04:58Laci Mosley?

  I haven't read this before. I knew it. I get there, we hang out and drink some more and it gets steaming. So I do the deed with my professor. In parentheses, remember, he is fine.

• 1:05:14Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:05:15Laci Mosley?

  Okay, so this is, this is eligible. They should be able to do this because they fine. The whole time we're cuddling and watching fireworks through the windows in this high-rise. So then a cat appears and I'm like, "Aww, how cute. You have a cat." He says, "That's not my cat." Okay, it's in your house, but okay. And I say, "Hmm, whose cat is that?" He goes, "My friends. I'm cat sitting for them. I couldn't watch him at my place." And I go, "This is not your place?" Honestly, I'm with you, Tyrone, right here, because what? This is not your place. You got me laid up in here. And this is not your place.

• 1:05:57Speaker 04

  You can't do the deed in strange places.

• 1:05:59Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 1:06:00Speaker 04

  The owner didn't sign up for that.

• 1:06:01Laci Mosley?

  I don't want to do the deed in a stranger home.

• 1:06:04Speaker 04

  No, stranger home is wild.

• 1:06:05Laci Mosley?

  What are we doing? He says, "Oh, no, this is their loft." So I immediately get turned off and feel scammed because this whole smooth talk via text was about his place and seeing the fireworks from so high up, blah, blah, blah. Anyway, after a few more hours of cuddling, oh, hours.

• 1:06:26Speaker 04

  You just push.

• 1:06:27Laci Mosley?

  You said you was leaving.

• 1:06:28Speaker 04

  You just push that to the back of your mind like dang, that's crazy. Anyway. I'm already here, I guess.

• 1:06:39Laci Mosley?

  Honestly, at this point, I'm not mad, like enjoy the experience.

• 1:06:44Speaker 04

  You did a deed, you're cuddling, the cat's here.

• 1:06:47Laci Mosley?

  Enjoy the experience.

• 1:06:48Speaker 04

  Person's not coming home tonight.

• 1:06:49Laci Mosley?

  Right, get the view, enjoy the experience.

• 1:06:52Speaker 04

  You're already downtown.

• 1:06:53Laci Mosley?

  Why you gonna run out there? I'm just mad that the sentence prior, you were like, oh no.

• 1:07:00Speaker 04

  I could never.

• 1:07:01Laci Mosley?

  I could never, and then after a few more hours.

• 1:07:06Laci Mosley?

  So clearly you could ever.

• 1:07:07Speaker 04

  You absolutely could.

• 1:07:08Laci Mosley?

  You could ever.

• 1:07:08Speaker 04

  You could always ever.

• 1:07:09Laci Mosley?

  You could always ever.

• 1:07:10Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:07:11Laci Mosley?

  We've learned that from this whole episode, you could always ever. Don't ever say somebody could never, because everybody could always ever.

• 1:07:18Speaker 04

  Can always ever.

• 1:07:20Laci Mosley?

  And so after a few more hours of cuddling. But feeling duped about my suave ass loser professor.

• 1:07:29Speaker 04

  I, I've been duped, I will continue to cuddle.

• 1:07:31Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:32Speaker 04

  But at the record reflect, I, I, I do feel duped, but it's already warm.

• 1:07:37Laci Mosley?

  And also a few more hours, few, the word few, in its definition means three to four.

• 1:07:44Speaker 04

  Three at minimum.

• 1:07:46Laci Mosley?

  At minimum, three to four.

• 1:07:47Speaker 04

  Yeah, for sure.

• 1:07:48Laci Mosley?

  So you don't use few, and lowkey, I feel like you scamming me, I feel like you might be lying to me a little bit.

• 1:07:52Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:07:52Laci Mosley?

  Was this three to four, or was this three to four days?

• 1:07:54Speaker 04

  Three to four hours.

• 1:07:55Laci Mosley?

  How long were you at this house?

• 1:07:57Speaker 04

  That's a lot of cuddling as well.

• 1:07:59Laci Mosley?

  If he watching the cat.

• 1:08:00Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:08:00Laci Mosley?

  That means somebody who owned the cat is out of town.

• 1:08:03Speaker 04

  Sure.

• 1:08:04Laci Mosley?

  So how long were you there from out of town? It don't give, it's not giving one night.

• 1:08:08Speaker 04

  Not at all.

• 1:08:09Laci Mosley?

  No, you was there.

• 1:08:11Speaker 04

  You was there.

• 1:08:11Laci Mosley?

  Y'all done ordered Uber Eats, y'all done got some DoorDash.

• 1:08:14Speaker 04

  Absolutely.

• 1:08:15Laci Mosley?

  Y'all done been laid up.

• 1:08:16Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:08:17Laci Mosley?

  You done posted Instagram stories.

• 1:08:20Speaker 04

  Happy doing it to you.

• 1:08:21Laci Mosley?

  You done texted your girlfriends.

• 1:08:22Speaker 04

  For sure.

• 1:08:23Laci Mosley?

  I don't lie to me.

• 1:08:24Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:08:25Laci Mosley?

  So it says, he ordered me an Uber back at dawn, mm, dawn, very flagrant.

• 1:08:33Speaker 04

  Morning music.

• 1:08:34Laci Mosley?

  Artistic, I don't know.

• 1:08:37Laci Mosley?

  Who says, "I got back to the Rager house and sneaked back in. All my friends were passed out everywhere and then I saw my little bro next to my best friend. He woke up and was like, 'You left me here!' The real scam, to be honest. Years later, he reminds me, 'Remember that time you left me with your friends to go be a hoochie with your loser teacher?'

• 1:09:03Laci Mosley?

  Honestly, I'm on his side.

• 1:09:05Speaker 04

  Absolutely. He's the dogs.

• 1:09:07Laci Mosley?

  He's the dog.

• 1:09:08Speaker 04

  He's the dogs. 1,000%. I would never let my sibling live that down forever. I would say that at their funeral.

• 1:09:14Laci Mosley?

  You, you was over here hunching in the house.

• 1:09:17Speaker 04

  Hunching in a...

• 1:09:18Laci Mosley?

  Hunching homeless. This ain't even his home. Y'all doing homeless hunching. Like...

• 1:09:25Speaker 04

  You really are funny, Lacy. I don't care what they say behind your back on Lipstick Alley. You are hilarious.

• 1:09:35Laci Mosley?

  Honestly, he's a...

• 1:09:36Speaker 04

  Hunching homeless is really funny.

• 1:09:39Speaker 04

  That's funny.

• 1:09:40Laci Mosley?

  He tricked you. Anyway, I never spoke with or saw the professor again. Okay, Tyrone, I'm glad that you never spoke or saw to the professor again or with the professor again, child, because that was, that was chaotic. Like, why would you do that? I'm not judging you. I am judging.

• 1:10:02Laci Mosley?

  But I'm not judging you.

• 1:10:03Speaker 04

  Fair.

• 1:10:04Laci Mosley?

  Do you get how two of those things can be true at the same time?

• 1:10:08Speaker 04

  I get it.

• 1:10:10Laci Mosley?

  Kev, thank you so much for coming back to the show.

• 1:10:13Speaker 04

  I had a great time. Thank you for having me. You're, you're a vibe. You're good times.

• 1:10:17Laci Mosley?

  You're a vibe. You're good times.

• 1:10:19Speaker 04

  Even when your knee hurts, you're still a vibe. You didn't let that pain rob you of, of great laughs? So, thank you.

• 1:10:25Laci Mosley?

  And thank you.

• 1:10:26Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:10:26Laci Mosley?

  Like, honestly, the best laughs always. I'm always so impressed and so proud of you and so excited by you because it's nice to have like an intelligent, genius, kind, benevolent person in this industry.

• 1:10:41Laci Mosley?

  Like who looks after people but also has a vision and cares and puts out great work into the world always like I

• 1:10:49Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 1:10:50Laci Mosley?

  I look up to you so much.

• 1:10:51Speaker 04

  Thank you so much, Lacey.

• 1:10:53Laci Mosley?

  I always ask at the end of the episodes, where would you like to be found? Anything you want to plug, any social media?

• 1:10:58Speaker 04

  Now, my best moment, the new podcast I have, um, comes out on Wednesdays on YouTube, wherever you find your podcasts. Now, my best moment, Safe Space is on Tubi right now. The Bald Brothers just started airing this new year, uh, on Tubi as well. Let's just focus there. I feel like if you give people too many things, they're just like, I'm out. So that's enough.

• 1:11:21Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. I feel like you can find all on your webpage.

• 1:11:23Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:11:23Laci Mosley?

  On Kev on Stage.

• 1:11:24Speaker 04

  Follow me on Kev on Stage.

• 1:11:26Laci Mosley?

  On Instagram.

• 1:11:26Speaker 04

  On Instagram. Anything else that I have going on, I'll always tell you about it there.

• 1:11:29Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 1:11:30Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 1:11:31Laci Mosley?

  And Kev has a very fun scammy way of telling you about his projects. It's always a very funny video and then at the end of the video, it's like tour dates or like what projects coming out.

• 1:11:40Speaker 04

  I will scam you.

• 1:11:40Laci Mosley?

  And it's so brilliant. I'm stealing it from you.

• 1:11:42Speaker 04

  Steal it.

• 1:11:43Laci Mosley?

  I'm going on a little mini tour.

• 1:11:44Speaker 04

  Are you for the Scam Goddess pod?

• 1:11:46Laci Mosley?

  With Live Nation, yeah.

• 1:11:47Speaker 04

  I missed it last time. I want to come.

• 1:11:52Laci Mosley?

  Hell, I might call you to be in it.

• 1:11:54Speaker 04

  Call me to be a part because I was on the road when you had it in LA. You asked me, but I was out of town.

• 1:11:59Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you were.

• 1:12:00Speaker 04

  And I'm not on the road the first part of the year, so.

• 1:12:03Laci Mosley?

  Okay, I'mma hit, I mean, well, it's, it starts in March.

• 1:12:06Speaker 04

  That's fine.

• 1:12:07Laci Mosley?

  Okay, I'mma hit you.

• 1:12:07Speaker 04

  I'll have no dates until the fall.

• 1:12:09Laci Mosley?

  I'mma hit you.

• 1:12:09Speaker 04

  Hit me, I'd love to be a part and meet a congregation. I'll wear Deacon gloves.

• 1:12:12Laci Mosley?

  Honestly?

• 1:12:16Laci Mosley?

  Get the collection plate, okay?

• 1:12:18Speaker 04

  I'd love to be a part.

• 1:12:20Laci Mosley?

  Uh, congregation, you can see all the photos and things from this episode, um, on Scam Goddess Pod on Instagram. If you want to follow me, D I V A L A C I, D I V A Lacey on all platforms. If you want to get my books, Scam Goddess is available everywhere you buy books. Or if you want to listen to it, it's available as an audiobook. And then Going Dutch, oh gosh, yes, Going Dutch is airing now on Fox. Get into that, it's a very fun season two. And Scam Goddess is also on Hulu, you can get into that as well. Love you guys so much and I want you all to be out there and I want you to stay, I want you to stay escalating for at least a few hours.

• 1:12:59Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:13:10Laci Mosley?

  Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Our producer is Jessica Cisneros, and our audio engineer is Rich Garcia. Research for the show is conducted by Kate Doyle. Stay scheming.

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