TV Anchor turns PPP Mafiosa w/ Mandii B & Weezy WTF

This week, Laci welcomes Mandii B and Weezy WTF (Decisions, Decisions Podcast) to dig into Stephanie Hockridge, a former Emmy-nominated TV news anchor convicted in a billion-dollar COVID fraud scheme. She went from breaking the news to breaking the law! Plus, Weezy's mom calls into the show and scams on her behalf in real-time. Stay schemin’! CON-gregation, catch Laci's TV Show Scam Goddess, now on Freeform and Hulu! Did you miss out on a custom-signed Scam Goddess book? Look no more, nab your copy on PODSWAG Keep the scams coming and snitch on your friends by emailing us at [email protected]. Follow on Instagram: Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod Laci Mosley: @divalaci Mandii B: @fullcourtpumps Weezy WTF: @weezywtf Decisions Decisions Podcast: @_decisionsdecisions Research by Kathryn Doyle SOURCES https://www.yahoo.com/news/ex-tv-news-anchor-stephanie-170432579.html https://www.abc15.com/news/local-news/investigations/former-arizona-news-anchors-trial-starts-in-ppp-loan-fraud-case https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2025/06/20/ex-abc15-anchor-guilty-covid-19-relief-fraud/84292830007/ https://www.azfamily.com/2025/06/20/jury-convicts-ex-phoenix-news-anchor-conspiracy-fraud-scheme/ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/media/article-14801935/abc-anchor-secret-double-life-exposed-court.html https://www.azfamily.com/2022/12/02/congressional-report-scottsdale-startup-facilitated-massive-amounts-pandemic-related-fraud/ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/media/article-14840631/Glamorous-TV-anchor-facing-years-prison-shocking-Covid-lies-learns-fate.html https://www.propublica.org/article/ppp-loans-paycheck-protection-fraud-profits-report https://colemanreport.com/stephanie-hockridge-convicted-in-10m-blueacorn-ppp-fraud-scheme/

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• 2:59Laci Mosley?

  What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess, back with another... Did I say that right? AKA Scam Goddess, back with another installment of the podcast all about robbery, fraud, and those who practice it. Sometimes we love them, sometimes we hate them. We will find out along the way. And if you are not new to church, go ahead and say amen, because you know I'm very what? Amen. Yes, excited, thrilled, elated to have two guests today. Two multi-hyphenate queens who host the podcast Decisions, Decisions, the show where they examine the world of non-traditional relationships and explore the often taboo topics surrounding dating and sex. But guess what? Okay, guess what? They're not just podcast hosts. Okay, wait, wait, okay.

• 3:44Laci Mosley?

  They're also New York Times bestselling authoresses. Please, Rich, put me some Jamaican air horns right there. And y'all better go buy their phenomenal new book, No Holes Barred. Why'd you laugh? It always makes me laugh. That's right. I was trying to make sure I didn't laugh. She said holes. Yes, No Holes Barred, a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power. Congregation, wherever you are right now, get up out of your seat. If you're driving, put your foot on the gas, but then still lift your booty up off of the seat a little bit and hold on to the steering wheel, okay? I need you to have your ass as out your chest. Please make some noise for Weezy, WTF, and Mandy B. Ayyyy.

• 4:27Speaker 04

  I loved that.

• 4:28Laci Mosley?

  Oh my god.

• 4:29Speaker 04

  I don't even know who wrote that.

• 4:30Laci Mosley?

  I need to see how it's timed. Oh, that's Jess.

• 4:33Speaker 04

  I love the multi hyphenate.

• 4:35Laci Mosley?

  Yes, and you are.

• 4:37Speaker 04

  That's what I'll say when I have my fourth husband. I'm multi hyphenated.

• 4:40Laci Mosley?

  You're gonna keep all the names as you get married?

• 4:42Speaker 04

  Listen, my homegirl, while with her husband, be saying, you know, my second husband ain't never gonna do this. And I'm like, bitch, this is so crazy. Oh, yeah, I'm totally gonna keep all the husbands. My mom, so she had a husband before my father, and that husband's last name was Dreyfus.

• 4:57Laci Mosley?

  Okay.

• 4:58Speaker 04

  She kept it. And I'm like, why would you keep that? She's like, it does sound rich.

• 5:00Laci Mosley?

  It does sound rich. I immediately thought of Julia and Dreyfus, and she's rich as hell.

• 5:04Speaker 04

  That's the same.

• 5:05Laci Mosley?

  Before acting.

• 5:06Speaker 04

  I'm like, I'm like an adopted child of the Sanders family.

• 5:10Laci Mosley?

  Sanders?

• 5:10Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 5:11Laci Mosley?

  Y'all got some scamming ass last names.

• 5:13Speaker 04

  Deion Sanders is prime, okay? And his ex-wife still uses Sanders. No, no, no, no, no. The Carolyn.

• 5:20Laci Mosley?

  Oh, okay.

• 5:21Speaker 04

  First one. The cool one. She still keeps Sanders as well. And even though she's been with other men since, she is a Sanders hun.

• 5:30Laci Mosley?

  Okay.

• 5:31Speaker 04

  I mean, I think it's what we've seen happen with even Harvey, Steve Harvey.

• 5:35Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 5:36Speaker 04

  Lori ain't even a Harvey, but she's.

• 5:38Laci Mosley?

  But she took the name. That's a scam, bitch. Okay, listen.

• 5:41Speaker 04

  She a Harvey.

• 5:42Laci Mosley?

  No, she's not. That ain't her daddy. Technically not.

• 5:45Speaker 04

  Yeah, but that's her mom's husband. She probably adopted her.

• 5:48Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, no, he did. She had the mom, the mom who is a very intelligent lady of the world.

• 5:54Speaker 04

  No, no, no, no. Miss, if y'all have not done an episode on Steve Harvey's wife, that woman dated a drug dealer.

• 6:03Laci Mosley?

  Marjorie?

• 6:03Speaker 04

  Marjorie, baby.

• 6:04Laci Mosley?

  Marjorie Harvey.

• 6:05Speaker 04

  So, the first boyfriend, husband, whatever, he got locked up. And she wanted to keep the money, so she went and started dating the brother or cousin.

• 6:13Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it was the brother or the cousin, but it was related.

• 6:15Speaker 04

  It was related, and she started dating a family member.

• 6:18Laci Mosley?

  And married him too.

• 6:20Speaker 04

  Yep. I mean, crazy. Didn't, which one of Joe Biden's kids fucked the dead brother's brother?

• 6:26Laci Mosley?

  Oh, I think I did. The wife of the dead brother.

• 6:30Speaker 04

  Uh huh. Yeah. Sometimes you just gotta keep it in the family.

• 6:34Laci Mosley?

  Now, wait, what's crazy about that? I don't know about that. I don't know about that.

• 6:37Speaker 04

  So, in Nigerian culture, they basically, if your brother dies, you then take on the family. So, it's not that crazy. Now, you maybe take on the family as far as financially, but, oh no.

• 6:48Laci Mosley?

  If you start fucking his wife, so what?

• 6:50Speaker 04

  Nah.

• 6:51Laci Mosley?

  Now, keep it a buck.

• 6:53Speaker 04

  Fuck my wife while I'm gone and at least be the uncle that my kids always knew. Or she gets some new nigga that I don't trust. Now I'm dead, but still.

• 7:01Speaker 05

  Yeah, no.

• 7:03Laci Mosley?

  This is a scam. Is it a scam to marry someone else in the family after the one that you married?

• 7:07Speaker 04

  But you gotta be dead dead. Not like coma or jail.

• 7:11Laci Mosley?

  Medium dead?

• 7:13Speaker 04

  Cause like Marjorie.

• 7:15Laci Mosley?

  Oh, you mean like, okay, yeah, coma is like, they could, they could pop back out, pop out and then you're already with a brother.

• 7:21Speaker 05

  Mary Crosby too, on Housewives of Salt Lake City.

• 7:24Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yes.

• 7:25Speaker 05

  She married her, her mom's husband, or grandma's husband. She's now dating her, her married granddaddy or something like that.

• 7:33Speaker 04

  I need to get into Bravo.

• 7:34Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah, it's, it's good.

• 7:35Speaker 04

  I didn't know they were doing all that.

• 7:36Speaker 05

  You ready? And they run a church, a congregation.

• 7:39Laci Mosley?

  Okay, okay, listen.

• 7:40Speaker 05

  Baby.

• 7:42Laci Mosley?

  We don't, we don't encourage you to marry your, your, your relatives over here, okay? Keep it in the fam, keep it in the family. Okay, then y'all gotta be like the Anastasia's and the.

• 7:52Speaker 04

  The Zha Zhas.

• 7:53Laci Mosley?

  Right, exactly, the Zha Zhas. Zha Zhas definitely fucking they cousins. So like, yeah, that's how you keep the wealth.

• 7:58Speaker 04

  And family.

• 8:00Laci Mosley?

  It makes sense to me. So we always ask on this podcast, what is your relationship with scams? And we see, I mean, you.

• 8:05Speaker 05

  I hate them. I don't date scammers. It was, when, when I got the email to share my own scam story, it was very hard. It was very hard.

• 8:13Speaker 04

  I didn't have one either.

• 8:14Speaker 05

  The only reason.

• 8:15Speaker 04

  I mean, I have one, but I.

• 8:17Laci Mosley?

  Y'all both seem very, like, I mean, obviously you're quite savvy, but you know what I mean?

• 8:21Speaker 05

  Yeah, no, um.

• 8:23Speaker 04

  I know, I take these niggas money in their face.

• 8:25Speaker 05

  Yeah, I don't, I don't like scammers, drug dealers, any of it. However, one of my favorite pastimes that I do in my spare time, one of my favorite shows of all time, is American Greed. So I do enjoy seeing how people get away specifically with white collar crimes. I'm not interested in drugs, drug selling and dealing. That's not very interesting to me. But white collar crime and seeing how they get away with that shit is great.

• 8:46Speaker 04

  A little embalming.

• 8:47Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 8:47Speaker 04

  Like a little embalming.

• 8:48Speaker 05

  You feel me? And then when I thought of, and then when I thought of scams, I was like, well, this is a podcast, a really fucking big and popular one. I said, it's not fun to talk about the scam that is Mary Kay, that is Herbalife. That is Wish You Were Here. I forgot what that was, you know what I mean? You remember where they held up the blue sign everywhere? Wish You Were Here, it was like a travel group, travel club? And as you kept going.

• 9:13Speaker 04

  Where they going?

• 9:14Speaker 05

  They were traveling.

• 9:15Laci Mosley?

  You would put in money to go with the group everywhere and it was like they were branded and it was like young people.

• 9:20Speaker 05

  Oh yeah.

• 9:21Speaker 04

  And that's the other thing with Herbalife.

• 9:22Laci Mosley?

  It was like good looking young people, they'd be on yachts and stuff like Wish You Were Here and the Bermuda Triangle and shit, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 9:29Speaker 04

  Not the Bermuda.

• 9:31Laci Mosley?

  My people love the Bermuda Triangle.

• 9:32Speaker 05

  I think the Ponzi scheme.

• 9:37Speaker 05

  Let me see, look, the way I'm looking up Wish You Were Here Ponzi, oh, World Ventures.

• 9:41Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 9:42Speaker 04

  So, I'm not gonna hold you. Even when bitches be like, they reached out to Mandy and I too to do a travel thing, I forgot what city it was. But like, I always thought those were scams because at the end of the day, the travel agencies are creating a larger price to do all the work to put something together.

• 9:58Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 9:58Speaker 04

  Herbalife still gave you smoothies and powders and shit.

• 10:02Speaker 05

  Yeah, sure.

• 10:03Speaker 04

  Mary Kay still give you products.

• 10:04Laci Mosley?

  Because that's an MLM, that's why it's legally, it's technically legal. It is a Ponzi scheme, they do want you to just sign other people up for the program.

• 10:12Speaker 04

  I had some niggas try to get me in on a Facebook, Cash App me, I Cash App you this. Oh, yes, the money circles, there was, um, they would have like the, what would they call it? It was like the money tree, the giving circles.

• 10:25Speaker 05

  The giving circle.

• 10:27Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 10:27Speaker 04

  That's the one.

• 10:28Speaker 05

  All I want to know.

• 10:29Laci Mosley?

  Sometimes one of the witchy woo woo girls put something spiritual into it.

• 10:32Speaker 05

  Let me tell you, there's one guy being outed right now, I forgot his name. But he did some shit where a lot of people fell for it. For $10,000, that's your seed investment, I can make you 20,000 to 30,000 a month. Bro, the fact that people even believe that shit, you should get got for your $10,000.

• 10:50Laci Mosley?

  Anytime somebody says seed, I just, I don't know, it's not gonna grow. It's not growing on me.

• 10:56Speaker 04

  Well, I'll tell you a seed that also didn't grow for my scam. I had to think back, and it's funny because Mandy knew this would be the one that I brought up. But when I was 20 or 21, I needed some extra money. I don't remember, I think it was this one drug dealer, never did scammers, only did trap niggas because I'm, I'm not about to, you're not about to take some money from an old lady.

• 11:17Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I know, I know.

• 11:18Speaker 04

  That's the real honest way of living.

• 11:20Laci Mosley?

  You're a street pharmacist.

• 11:20Speaker 04

  I appreciate like trappers, like honestly trapping ain't dead, which is why I don't buy weed from these fucking stores. But anyway, so.

• 11:29Laci Mosley?

  I love that you're keeping the street pharmacist employed.

• 11:31Speaker 04

  Oh, I'm all about Brown from, I literally own a business called Trap House. It's a gym with trapping house music.

• 11:37Laci Mosley?

  Oh, my God, my cousin works for you.

• 11:40Speaker 04

  Who?

• 11:40Laci Mosley?

  Eric Mosley.

• 11:41Speaker 04

  Eric is your cousin?

• 11:43Laci Mosley?

  Yes, he's like the cousins, it's like my best friend.

• 11:47Speaker 04

  Are you kidding me?

• 11:48Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 11:49Speaker 04

  Oh, my God, it is such a small world.

• 11:51Laci Mosley?

  Oh, my God.

• 11:52Speaker 04

  I love Eric, he's our, so sorry.

• 11:53Laci Mosley?

  No, yes, you're good, you get cursed.

• 11:55Speaker 04

  He's our favorite, favorite, just kidding. But anyway, like, no, he is the one, okay, so yes.

• 11:59Laci Mosley?

  Okay, we'll, we'll.

• 12:00Speaker 04

  So love trap shit.

• 12:01Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 12:01Speaker 04

  So how I trapped scammed this guy, um, basically I needed $500 and I knew he didn't want to be with me or have a baby with me. So I just faked a pregnancy and had a fake abortion.

• 12:11Laci Mosley?

  Okay. Now, did you have some pregnant pee? Did you, did, did you give him the, the one, two blue stick?

• 12:18Speaker 04

  No, because who wants you to prove it when you're ready to have the abortion and they don't want to be with you?

• 12:23Laci Mosley?

  Okay.

• 12:23Speaker 04

  You just had to do the sob story, but the most recent scam, and by recent, I mean, this was seven years ago when we started the show. No, no, no, sorry, we started our show eight or nine years ago, but it was right in the beginning of the podcast. So I started fucking with this European dude.

• 12:36Laci Mosley?

  Okay, are you a little bit of a scam?

• 12:38Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 12:38Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 12:39Speaker 04

  So he lived in New York, but then he moved on to Latvia. And I didn't want to go see him in Latvia.

• 12:44Laci Mosley?

  You didn't want to go to Latvia?

• 12:46Speaker 04

  No, I don't want to go to Latvia.

• 12:47Laci Mosley?

  We see why, we see why.

• 12:47Speaker 04

  Because there was nothing in Latvia. So he's like, yo, well, why don't we go on a nice trip? Have you ever been to Italy? I'm like, yeah, he's like, if you're in Venice, I'm like.

• 12:57Laci Mosley?

  Okay.

• 12:58Speaker 04

  He's like, I'll take you to the opera, we're gonna stay at this hotel.

• 13:00Laci Mosley?

  The opera?

• 13:01Speaker 04

  Right.

• 13:02Laci Mosley?

  Okay, you know, that's the scam that rich people keep alive because them operas be boring as fuck. But everybody knows when you get in there, you in the box, just looking around at other rich people. It's just an excuse to be rich.

• 13:11Speaker 04

  Oh, my God, and they sell the little eyegoggles across the way. So he's like, but I can only do it on this weekend.

• 13:18Laci Mosley?

  Okay.

• 13:18Speaker 04

  Now, I was out of PTO because I once, when I was a young Horus, I was always out, just. Being, you know.

• 13:25Laci Mosley?

  He was outside.

• 13:26Speaker 04

  So I, PTO was done. So I'm like, okay, my boss at the time was like, super liberal, very like, Trump was like, getting elected. He was like, we're fucking protesting outside, da, da, da. So I was like, I know one thing he gonna be down for. So I called him in the conference room and I sent him an email, like, I need to talk to you something really serious. Like, I can't discuss it over email. So, flight was already booked. Knew I had to get out of there.

• 13:45Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 13:46Speaker 04

  I was like, hey, Tim, like, I need to tell you something, and it's really shameful, but I'm pregnant. So he's like, okay, totally fine. Jackie's pregnant right now. We've got maternity leave here at T-Mobile.

• 13:59Laci Mosley?

  We're gonna have the office baby shower.

• 14:02Speaker 04

  Baby, that's what I was doing. We're, we're gonna be good. I was like.

• 14:04Laci Mosley?

  Cake in the break room?

• 14:06Speaker 04

  I don't wanna keep it.

• 14:07Laci Mosley?

  Oh.

• 14:07Speaker 04

  And I think I'm gonna need three to five days off.

• 14:12Speaker 04

  You take the time you need. When do you, when are you gonna do it? I don't know. I'm, I'm actually kinda broken. The, the, the flight, the flight was the next day. And I, I, I'm surprised he didn't pick up on it, cause like, my fucking hair was fresh. So I was like, I just, I'm not ready for this. I think I'm gonna do it on Friday, and then I think I'll need three days off Saturday, Sunday. Be back Tuesday. And, uh, yeah, so I couldn't post anything because I was technically having an abortion. And then I kept forgetting I had a fake abortion, because that next week, we had a team outing. And I was ready to get lit. But I was like, damn, should I be?

• 14:44Laci Mosley?

  Well, if the baby gone, it's not like the baby gonna get drunk, cause you, you had it removed.

• 14:49Speaker 04

  Not you had it removed. I know, but, uh, I still felt like you had to be partying. Shouldn't I be a little sad?

• 14:57Laci Mosley?

  Now she trying to keep her bit up. She in the corner at the party like, no.

• 15:01Speaker 04

  No, no, I'm having a good time. Mind you, it was really difficult, because then I went back to my desk, and I'm in a sales en- en- environment. Everybody's, you know, guys chatting shit, and I'm like, fuck, I gotta like, really keep this up and be a little bit sad. And it was tough.

• 15:12Laci Mosley?

  Did you?

• 15:13Speaker 04

  Yes. Right, did you?

• 15:14Laci Mosley?

  I don't know if you did.

• 15:15Speaker 04

  I had to do the fake.

• 15:16Laci Mosley?

  Did you tell the whole office that you were having this fake abortion?

• 15:19Speaker 04

  No, but I ain't gonna hold you. I did tell one bitch I was cool where I work.

• 15:22Laci Mosley?

  Never mind, it's gone. Like, why?

• 15:25Speaker 04

  I told one hoe at work, and we stopped being friends, and I was so scared. I was like, this bitch ain't, she can't tell me, like, abortion. You can't, like, that, I would rather you say, I'd rather you say have herpes in the office than fucking say I had a fake abortion. That is embarrassment.

• 15:37Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I'd still rather fake abortion.

• 15:41Speaker 04

  Well, anyway, that was my scam.

• 15:42Laci Mosley?

  That was beautiful. Also, like, shout out to having like a male boss who doesn't understand black hair, because a black woman boss would clock like,

• 15:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, bitch.

• 15:51Laci Mosley?

  So you just got a fresh.

• 15:52Speaker 04

  This is ready for vacation. Right, bitch. You know that, and I took the day off.

• 15:59Laci Mosley?

  I walked past your desk several times and I saw you on ASOS.

• 16:04Speaker 04

  Well, I'll tell you guys, Venice was lovely. And so was the opera.

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• 18:52Laci Mosley?

  Man, what about you? We kind of tapped into you a little bit in the beginning.

• 18:55Speaker 05

  Well, for mine, especially when you talk about robbery, that's what let me know I have scammed someone before. So.

• 19:05Laci Mosley?

  Oh, robbery's included?

• 19:07Speaker 05

  Robbery is included. I got one for you.

• 19:09Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I do have my shysty in my bag.

• 19:10Speaker 05

  Oh, my gosh. So this was when I was probably 19, 18, 19. I got flown out by a guy and I was in a hotel room. He flew me to Texas. He was there.

• 19:23Laci Mosley?

  Okay.

• 19:24Speaker 05

  Ended up hanging out. It was cute, right? Like, I knew I was going there. I knew what I got flewed out for.

• 19:28Laci Mosley?

  By the way, we were friends when this story happened. I remember this story.

• 19:32Speaker 05

  And, yeah, so he flew me out and we had a cool time like the first night. We ended up at Dave and Buster's. We were having a fun time. We played games. We went out to dinner, all the things. The next day, he went to, it was either practice or a meeting because he was out there for work. Bitch, he never came back to the hotel room. Literally, I was in the room by myself and back then I had the money to just leave. This is also, I don't have friends in the city that I was in at the time. And I was like, I just got really, really mad.

• 20:01Laci Mosley?

  Was it a good city to hang out in?

• 20:03Speaker 05

  But at the time, I.

• 20:04Laci Mosley?

  Were you in Houston?

• 20:05Speaker 05

  Bro, I was 18, 19. At the time, I was like, bro. And I ain't got no fucking money. There was. No Ubers at this time.

• 20:10Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 20:11Speaker 05

  You had to call a cab, like, bro, this is 2009, 2010?

• 20:15Speaker 04

  Yes, HS maybe.

• 20:16Speaker 05

  Yeah, like this is-

• 20:17Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, this is a different type of stranded.

• 20:19Speaker 05

  This is a different type of stranded. You didn't have-

• 20:21Laci Mosley?

  Now we got all types of getaway apps on the phone.

• 20:23Speaker 05

  Bro, I don't even think I had an Apple at the time.

• 20:25Speaker 04

  Getaway app is funny.

• 20:26Laci Mosley?

  Right? I feel like I could just rob a bank and then hit Lyft.

• 20:30Speaker 05

  Literally, the way we're able to just get around is way different than it was back in 2009, 2010. And actually, it was probably 2010, because 2009 I graduated. Um, but yeah, so I just got irate. Mind you, I'm in this fucking big ass room. All of his shit is in there. So, baby, I leave the next morning.

• 20:48Laci Mosley?

  So, wait, he dipped without even taking his old belongings?

• 20:51Speaker 05

  This gets, this gets even crazier later.

• 20:54Laci Mosley?

  Now, did you think at one moment that maybe he had went missing? Like, he was a missing man?

• 20:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, was he texting you?

• 21:00Speaker 05

  Yeah. I, he just wasn't coming back to the room. And mind you, I ended up finding out he was, he fucked someone else because he's a hoe ass nigga. Anyways.

• 21:07Speaker 04

  Okay, no.

• 21:08Speaker 05

  So, I leave the next day, but I get all ready to go to the airport, and he never came back that whole night. So, I said, okay, well, if this nigga not gonna come back, baby, I stole every electronic in the, in the room. And mind you, back then, this is how old it was, too.

• 21:25Laci Mosley?

  You took a coffee maker?

• 21:26Speaker 05

  Hold on, listen. I took, I took like a portable, like, thing that you could watch DVDs on. I took-

• 21:34Laci Mosley?

  Oh, like a Blu-ray player?

• 21:36Speaker 05

  Oh, all of that. I took that. I took two phones, two BlackBerries.

• 21:39Laci Mosley?

  Not two phones?

• 21:40Speaker 05

  Two.

• 21:40Laci Mosley?

  He's, he's, he was a criminal. Way too many phones.

• 21:43Speaker 05

  He wasn't shit. Um, I took a pair of his shoes.

• 21:46Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 21:47Speaker 05

  Um-

• 21:47Speaker 04

  Were they worn?

• 21:48Speaker 05

  No, they were like new shoes, but, I mean, they were a big size. I was like, I can, I can get these off.

• 21:52Laci Mosley?

  Oh, you, oh-

• 21:53Speaker 05

  Oh, I stole everything that I thought had value. When I say everything, I stole everything. Like, there was like a watch in there, wasn't a Rolex or nothing, but I stole that. It was like probably a G-Shock. I stole everything out that room, went to the airport, never talked to him again. Ended up like selling this shit off when I got home. Oh, literally.

• 22:11Laci Mosley?

  I just wanna, I want him to see you on Facebook Marketplace.

• 22:14Speaker 05

  No, you, you ready? You wanna know the craziest part about this? Um, maybe eight years later, maybe eight, eight years later, he ends up sliding in my DMs.

• 22:26Speaker 04

  Oh, my goodness. Don't tell me he forgot who you were.

• 22:28Speaker 05

  He, I think, totally forgot who I was.

• 22:30Speaker 04

  No.

• 22:31Speaker 05

  I mean, you know, I, I lost weight. And, um, we ended up fucking and again, and we ended up seeing each other so much that I ended up fucking him and his baby mama.

• 22:42Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 22:42Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 22:43Speaker 04

  Bitch, I don't remember this part of the story. A turn of the f-. That was the guy?

• 22:47Speaker 05

  The same guy, the same guy I robbed ended up working in New York, I'll say that.

• 22:51Speaker 04

  Wait, did you tell him?

• 22:53Speaker 05

  Why would I tell him I robbed him eight years prior?

• 22:55Laci Mosley?

  You can't tell nobody you robbed her.

• 22:57Speaker 04

  Wait, but he knows you robbed him.

• 22:58Speaker 05

  No, I think he forgot because, bro, niggas be forgetting. When you fuck so many people, maybe he thought he misplaced all of these items.

• 23:06Laci Mosley?

  He might have. Also, he just disappeared for days on end. Anybody could have took that stuff.

• 23:11Speaker 05

  All I know is, I felt like, well, damn, you have a type because you slid back in my DMs. And so I was like, well, you still look good and maybe you're not a nigga I wanna rob today. And so I hung back out with him and it was great. We had a good time.

• 23:27Speaker 04

  I cannot believe that's the guy.

• 23:29Laci Mosley?

  You're not a nigga I wanna rob today.

• 23:31Speaker 05

  Same guy.

• 23:32Laci Mosley?

  I, this is.

• 23:33Speaker 04

  I do remember him hitting you up.

• 23:35Speaker 05

  Yeah, same guy.

• 23:35Speaker 04

  But I always thought you ended up telling him.

• 23:37Speaker 05

  No, I never, I never told him.

• 23:39Speaker 04

  Have we fucked before?

• 23:40Speaker 05

  Yeah, we had fucked before, yeah.

• 23:42Speaker 04

  You never said we fucked.

• 23:43Speaker 05

  It was the same guy, same guy.

• 23:46Speaker 04

  I'm almost asking Andy, are you sure?

• 23:48Speaker 05

  By the way, by the way, by the way, to make this like, here's the thing. He's a basketball player, an NBA player.

• 23:54Laci Mosley?

  Oh, okay, so he probably really did not remember that you robbed him.

• 23:57Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 23:58Laci Mosley?

  He's busy. He's going from city to city. He's getting robbed all the time.

• 24:02Speaker 05

  Probably.

• 24:03Laci Mosley?

  You know?

• 24:03Speaker 05

  You know what I mean?

• 24:04Laci Mosley?

  He's not robbing him.

• 24:04Speaker 05

  And I was like, well, at least you're consistent. You clearly have a type. I was your type eight years ago and I'm your type today. And when he hit me, I thought it was gonna be on some like, he remembered. I said, this nigga doesn't remember me, but he still looks good. And so I'll go.

• 24:18Laci Mosley?

  I'm glad you didn't jump the gun and be like, I knew this day would happen. And yes, I did rob you. You were like, oh, hey, what's up, stranger?

• 24:24Speaker 05

  Never told him to this day I robbed him.

• 24:26Speaker 04

  That's beautiful.

• 24:27Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 24:27Speaker 04

  Wait, did he ever text you?

• 24:29Speaker 05

  We, we were fucking with each other four months.

• 24:31Speaker 04

  No, no, no, no, no, no. I mean, like, once he came back to the room and realized all his shit was wrong, what'd he say?

• 24:36Speaker 05

  I don't know, we never, we didn't talk until he slid in my DMs again.

• 24:39Laci Mosley?

  So you blocked him?

• 24:40Speaker 05

  I mean, I don't know what the technology was back then, but I never spoke to that nigga again.

• 24:45Laci Mosley?

  What the technology was?

• 24:46Speaker 05

  I don't know if you could block back in 2010. I don't remember how my phone at the time operated.

• 24:51Laci Mosley?

  So he just never hit you up?

• 24:52Speaker 05

  We both never hit each other up. Mind you, it was back in the day, this is even before Instagram. Like, or this was, this was either Instagram or I think we met on Twitter, honestly. And back then, I got flewed out through the DMs, okay? It was a, I was living a very dangerous life.

• 25:06Laci Mosley?

  I mean, that was, that was a time to be alive. It really was.

• 25:08Speaker 05

  As long as you had a blue check, I felt like you weren't gonna kill me.

• 25:10Speaker 04

  Do you remember how much you, you sold stuff for?

• 25:13Speaker 05

  Um, and I think at the time, maybe I ended up getting like seven, seven hundred dollars. I ended up giving him a lot. I know, it wasn't a lot, but I ended up, mind you.

• 25:20Speaker 04

  No, that is a lot.

• 25:21Laci Mosley?

  That is a lot. And, and, and you were like 80s, that broad?

• 25:25Speaker 05

  It was multiple devices, and mind you, this is when you could like, get rid of especially good phones, because you could unlock them.

• 25:31Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, they weren't like, you could jailbreak it. It wasn't break stuff like it is now. Don't ask me how I had these things.

• 25:36Speaker 05

  I had technology, I had equipment.

• 25:38Speaker 04

  I fucking didn't even think, this is a robbery I did two years ago. It's not a real robbery. But it's a celebrity story, and if they heard this story, but somehow went somewhere, they would never remember this. So, my, uh, business partner and I, Alex Media, went to this party after the Jay-Z Paris Louis Vuitton Foundation show. We didn't know what party we were gonna end up at, and it literally was a three-floor hotel room that was theirs. So, we knew we were going to the Jay-Z after-party and we might see Jay-Z. I think we was gonna see her. So, mind you, we're there because we were doing some production for the show. And we just ended up there because he was cool. So me and him looking at each other, we pull each other in the bathroom.

• 26:20Speaker 04

  Everybody definitely thought we were gonna do a bump. We were in the bathroom, I was like, I can't believe it. We're like, oh, I, I remember when I came home and told this story, like, bruh, to not, to not know you're about to be in their hotel room? I, I was freaking out. I also called the only other famous person I knew that had met them, and it was Charlamagne. Charlamagne was in bed with his wife, and I was like, you're never gonna believe this. And what I love about Charlamagne is he gave me what I wanted. He was like, bruh, shut the fuck up. He was, I ain't even never been no, I was like, I don't know what I do. He's like, just, just be cool, nigga. So, whatever. It's, it's not like we're really interacting. There's a lot of people there, right? But here's a robbery story. So.

• 26:58Laci Mosley?

  I know you, Bozy, better not be telling me you robbed Beyonce.

• 27:01Speaker 04

  No, no, it wasn't a real robbery. So, I had to go to the bathroom. And the bathrooms downstairs were full, and then the top level, uh, I don't know whose bathroom is a personal bathroom, but whatever. None of her products, none of their stuff was in there. But, at this hotel, there were like different soaps and different like lotions.

• 27:20Laci Mosley?

  So, a hotel is not... So, I want you to stick it.

• 27:23Speaker 04

  It was Dior, Dior.

• 27:25Laci Mosley?

  Oh, my god.

• 27:26Speaker 04

  So, I start taking shit from the room.

• 27:29Laci Mosley?

  As you, that's one shoe.

• 27:30Speaker 04

  Now, from the bathroom, right?

• 27:31Laci Mosley?

  If you go to a nice hotel, they got Bavari, they got all the like cute stuff. I take the towels from the hotel.

• 27:35Speaker 04

  Oh, I do that too.

• 27:36Laci Mosley?

  Cause I like to use them as makeup-removing cloths.

• 27:38Speaker 04

  Now, here's the celebrity part that got funny. I come out of the bathroom, and the people that are waiting for the bathroom are ASAP and Rihanna. Rihanna was pregnant at the time.

• 27:48Laci Mosley?

  Cause as she, as she is. As she's always, yes.

• 27:50Speaker 04

  I couldn't, you know, they see me looking shocked, and they were like laughing or doing something together, and I can't remember, this was really fucked up, but I remember being like, "Oh shit, what y'all doing?" That's what I said. So, they're looking at me like, "What the fuck is this bitch talking about?" I'm like, "What y'all doing?" They was like, "Nigga, what you doing?" I was like, "I'm not gonna lie to y'all, I was in there stealing shit." So, ASAP is dying laughing. He was like, "Bro, I take shit from hotels all the time." Swear to god, he does this. And this is when I was like, this is the funniest shit of all time. Rihanna's laughing at him. He's like, "Bro, but don't, don't I be taking shit, baby?" And he grabs the cordless phone from the fucking, uh, bed, the nightstand, goes, "And I'ma take this shit too." And walked out of the room. Bitch, I'm telling you, I was like, do you know when you just expect somebody to be cool and funny?

• 28:33Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 28:34Speaker 04

  Literally. That, to me, was like just the coolest interaction I've ever had with somebody because I just was really...

• 28:40Laci Mosley?

  And all over theft. You see how theft can bring people together?

• 28:43Speaker 04

  I'm telling you, ASAP from...

• 28:44Laci Mosley?

  By bringing you apart from your belongings, we're bringing people together.

• 28:47Speaker 04

  Cause I was really sitting there with all the lotions and shit, cause my purse was on the outside, so I was like, "Damn."

• 28:51Laci Mosley?

  Oh, oh my god. So, you, I, I think, not you open the door, you got fish balls and...

• 28:57Speaker 04

  Like, Dior, so wait, get in the hotel, we leave the elevator, it's like 6 a.m., we have this great night. I'm in the car with my business partner, I'm like, I can't believe this shit. He's like, I know, it's amazing. I was like, dude, I stole a bunch of lotions. This nigga opens his jacket, me too! Bro, I tell you, I got 20 Dior Cheval Blanc French lotions. Every time I put it on, I want the spirit of Beyonce. I barely use it, because I do want to have like a big meeting or something, so I could be...

• 29:22Laci Mosley?

  Oh, and then, and you want to walk in the room with the scent already on you, and then she be like, what is that?

• 29:26Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 29:27Laci Mosley?

  Not the voice.

• 29:29Speaker 04

  No, but I always picture in my head, if I wear this thing, that was like the biggest and richest room I've ever been in my life. Like, the owner of LVMH was there and shit. So in my head, I'm like, I'm gonna recreate this luxury, this richness, this moment, and visualize it. So yeah, I think I'm doing well because of the lotion. That's why we have New York Times.

• 29:48Laci Mosley?

  And that's how we made it into New York Times bestseller.

• 29:51Speaker 04

  That fucking lotion, it was Weezy's lotion. She probably never even went in that bathroom. There was seven bathrooms. I saw the hotel room on YouTube, there's seven bathrooms in a hotel. I know she never went in there, but anyway.

• 30:01Laci Mosley?

  That was their party hosting three-story hotel. They probably had another three-story hotel for like the family.

• 30:07Speaker 04

  None of their items were in that hotel.

• 30:08Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, no, no, not at all.

• 30:09Speaker 04

  Julius was there, he was guarding something, bitch. Beyonce.

• 30:13Laci Mosley?

  See, that's how you know you're famous, famous, when your bodyguard is famous. I've literally been at tours and we were like, Julius! Julius!

• 30:19Speaker 04

  I would say it's also only because he's so good looking.

• 30:21Laci Mosley?

  He is so fine.

• 30:22Speaker 04

  If he wasn't that fine, none of us would give a fuck. That's how true Big Rob, rest in peace, we all knew him. He was on TV as a, like, we didn't care until he was on TV. Like, Julius was fine.

• 30:32Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I be, I be wanting, I don't want to assault our queen or nothing, but I do be trying to run up, I want to run up on her just so he can like... So you can just grab me and throw me away.

• 30:40Speaker 04

  Oh, Julius grabbed me.

• 30:41Laci Mosley?

  Right. I'm like, oh no!

• 30:46Speaker 04

  Not the sluts.

• 30:49Speaker 04

  Julius.

• 30:50Laci Mosley?

  Like, she's a little too intentional about this, like, run-up.

• 30:55Laci Mosley?

  It had nothing to do with Beyonce.

• 30:56Speaker 04

  Julius, I took the lotion.

• 30:57Laci Mosley?

  It was like, oh Julius, oh no!

• 31:00Speaker 04

  Y'all, she, Lacey's bending over.

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• 34:34Laci Mosley?

  We are gonna get into the main event of this podcast. This is Historic Hoodwings. This is where I will regale Weezy and Mandy with a famous con caper group of criminals we don't know yet. Maybe we love them, maybe we hate them. We'll get your opinions all throughout. Okay.

• 34:49Laci Mosley?

  So today in Historic Hoodwings, we're gonna be talking about a well-known Arizona news anchor who left her TV job when the pandemic started to... Why can't I say this word? To found a company designed to help people steal COVID-19 relief money. So she founded a company. That was designed to help people steal COVID-19 relief.

• 35:12Speaker 05

  But what was the, what was the thing that she called it? Was it PP, what was it, the PPP, the SBA?

• 35:17Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, she was like, she started her company to allow people to do crime under her syndicate. You know what I mean? She was like, she was like organized crime, but like really, let's organize it.

• 35:30Speaker 05

  But wait, so they knew they were going to be fucking people over?

• 35:33Laci Mosley?

  Well, let's see. So Stephanie Hockridge was once a very familiar face in Arizona households. Look, she's, she's giving me like cheer captain and.

• 35:46Speaker 05

  She's giving me desperate housewives.

• 35:48Laci Mosley?

  Homecoming.

• 35:48Speaker 05

  Like, yeah. I've been watching Hunt and Wives and she, she looks like she does not believe in abortion.

• 35:53Laci Mosley?

  Oh, no. But only when she has to go to her aunt's house at 16. And she just goes to her aunt's house for a week and a half and then she comes back.

• 36:02Speaker 05

  Oh, she, she could be a cousin fucker.

• 36:04Laci Mosley?

  Oh, damn, I was just saying this, this, that, I'm from Texas. Y'all never heard about people going to their aunt's?

• 36:10Speaker 05

  Yeah, I'm just saying she looked like a cousin fucker. When I start talking like this, I'm thinking about cousin fucking.

• 36:14Laci Mosley?

  Oh, my God. And I know, that's why I was like, why you jumping to cousin fucking? I wasn't at cousin fucking.

• 36:18Speaker 05

  Yeah, what's to go into the aunt's house?

• 36:20Laci Mosley?

  Oh, so like, I guess maybe it was just a thing in Texas, but like in high school, like if a girl got pregnant and they weren't going to keep the baby, they would like go to their aunt's house for like a week or so and then they would come back and they wouldn't have no baby no more.

• 36:32Speaker 05

  Oh, wow.

• 36:33Laci Mosley?

  No, that, that, that's not a thing?

• 36:35Speaker 05

  Nope. In Florida, we just said abortion.

• 36:38Laci Mosley?

  Oh, no, we just was like, oh, yes, you know, she had her aunt's house.

• 36:41Speaker 05

  Never heard at your aunt's house.

• 36:44Laci Mosley?

  Your aunt, who out of town?

• 36:45Speaker 05

  Never heard it.

• 36:46Laci Mosley?

  The what?

• 36:47Speaker 05

  Is that how you did yours?

• 36:52Speaker 05

  Never heard it.

• 36:55Laci Mosley?

  This is a very specific lie only I was telling people.

• 36:58Speaker 05

  I feel like that was something you said. Maybe you're fucking on.

• 37:04Speaker 04

  I mean shit.

• 37:06Laci Mosley?

  Oh my goodness.

• 37:07Speaker 04

  Honestly, the irony of Texas and not being able to have an abortion, like.

• 37:10Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 37:11Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 37:11Laci Mosley?

  It makes no sense.

• 37:12Speaker 04

  I recently offered up anyone, when Roe v. Wade got overturned, I was like, hey, if anybody wants the abortion pill, send me a message, DM me, like, I'mma send it to you. I'm thinking three to five women gonna hit me up.

• 37:25Laci Mosley?

  You thought three to five?

• 37:27Speaker 04

  Bitch, forty. At one point, I had an assistant at the time, I'm like, Tiana, how many abortion pills can we get each? She's like, we gotta help these girls. All of it was Texas. I thought it would be Georgia, but maybe Jordan, they're driving somewhere else, I don't know. But all the Texas girls were like, bitch, we fucked. I had three strippers. It was a lot. And they were like, I'll cash app, you ain't gotta give me no donation pill, bitch, get me this. Yeah, it was rough.

• 37:51Laci Mosley?

  Oh no, it's so terrible. I'm from Texas, I love my state, I hate its laws. So Stephanie Hockridge, who like, I love, I loved it. She also gives me like Pilates, mom, like, you know, like, she looks pretty fit.

• 38:04Speaker 04

  She does.

• 38:05Laci Mosley?

  You know what I mean?

• 38:05Speaker 04

  You're just looking at her tits, but okay.

• 38:07Laci Mosley?

  Okay.

• 38:07Speaker 04

  I'm not gonna lie.

• 38:08Laci Mosley?

  I am bi, and I had, they, they right there.

• 38:10Speaker 04

  I don't see, we're looking at a headshot, honey, where's the fit? You're seeing titties.

• 38:15Speaker 05

  Literally, it is a shoulder up, and you said she looks fit.

• 38:18Speaker 04

  Pretty fit.

• 38:20Speaker 05

  Her breasts are high.

• 38:21Speaker 04

  Honestly, white women with a smile, Pilates. That's what the photo is we looked at.

• 38:27Laci Mosley?

  I was trying to give a, a, a very genteel description. Y'all have turned into like, horny ass.

• 38:34Speaker 04

  No lie, word to Eric, this is why we have trap house, because I'm tired of these hoes. Every time I wanna do a little agree, I gotta see this bitch and not be a, no. This is what we think it looks like.

• 38:43Laci Mosley?

  Do you mind scooting your mat over a little bit? My dog is gonna be right here.

• 38:47Speaker 04

  Well, that's actually her. She brings her dog everywhere. Nina Simone is gonna be at the.

• 38:51Laci Mosley?

  Nina Simone gonna be at the event.

• 38:52Speaker 04

  Hello?

• 38:53Laci Mosley?

  Okay, period. No, so yes, this is her, she very looks like all American, very shiny hair, very like, um, chunky highlights of a, of a time and a place and an era. So she was on the news in Arizona. She spent seven years as an anchor at KNXV-tv. KNXV's, I don't, it sounds like a slur. I don't know why. So it's one of the ABC affiliates in Phoenix, and they, they would do, she would do stories like this one. Like, look at her, look, okay, look, she does look like she does Pilates, we seeing more of herself.

• 39:26Speaker 04

  She do.

• 39:28Laci Mosley?

  Now I see it.

• 39:29Speaker 04

  Another senior scammed out of every cent to her name. Tonight, we know the Department of Homeland Security is considering a proposal to separate children from their mothers.

• 39:37Laci Mosley?

  I gotta be honest with you, this could be a stark reality that we are facing tonight with hundreds of thousands of Alice that might not be counted. Okay, beautiful, forgettable. Would never have known if I'd seen her before. I could watch her every night and I couldn't pick her up in a lineup.

• 39:51Speaker 05

  Walk right past her and be like, I don't know that woman.

• 39:52Laci Mosley?

  Wouldn't know a thing.

• 39:53Speaker 04

  I said recently to my homegirl, she went on a date. My homegirl's white and the guy's like very finance bro guy. She sends me his photo and I'm like, didn't you already fuck him? And so she calls me because she's laughing, she's like, dude, a lot of the guys just look alike, like a lot of white guys with that patagonia, like, and white women have that aesthetic too.

• 40:12Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 40:12Speaker 04

  When they, when they have the aesthetic, she's like, it's just like it repeats itself. I'm like, yeah. Now her, totally feel like.

• 40:19Laci Mosley?

  Oh, she's a copy pasta white woman. Like she absolutely should get into crime because that face is so forgettable. You could literally rob me at gunpoint, broad daylight in the park and I would not know who she was.

• 40:32Speaker 05

  If she ended up in a lineup with a lot of other women that look like her, wouldn't be able to.

• 40:36Laci Mosley?

  Ooh, wouldn't be, wouldn't, don't you slap three brunettes in a row? I would know, I wouldn't know a thing. She could come up to me with the gun, broad daylight in the park and be like, it's me, Stephanie Hockridge, and I'll be robbing you right now, more at 11. And I'd be like, ah, my money. And then the police come, I'd be like, I don't know, I think she hit me over the head. I don't remember a thing.

• 40:54Speaker 05

  I don't know a thing.

• 40:55Laci Mosley?

  Maybe I wasn't robbed, you know, great face, Stephanie. We love this for you. So she was nominated for an Emmy, so someone noticed her and named favorite newscaster by Arizona Foothills Magazine. You know Arizona Foothills Magazine, that's my favorite magazine about the foothills of Arizona.

• 41:10Speaker 05

  Wait, this is her?

• 41:11Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 41:12Speaker 04

  No, no, that's not her.

• 41:12Speaker 05

  That's a different.

• 41:13Laci Mosley?

  That's not her? See?

• 41:15Speaker 05

  I was like, is that her?

• 41:16Speaker 04

  Is that her?

• 41:17Speaker 05

  Maybe she just had extensions in this picture.

• 41:18Laci Mosley?

  Do you see how fast I say yes? I told you, I do not know what this lady looks like. I think, I think that's her.

• 41:24Speaker 05

  I think that's her.

• 41:25Laci Mosley?

  That's one of her faces. It says, meet the new face of foothills and a new face indeed, because we will never know.

• 41:32Speaker 05

  That's a little.

• 41:32Laci Mosley?

  So this is like a lifestyle luxury publication. So I guess the girls in Arizona know about the foothills. And so she had it all until her 2025 fraud-based fall from grace.

• 41:43Speaker 05

  Wait a second, she got caught five years later after the pandemic?

• 41:46Laci Mosley?

  Mm-hmm.

• 41:47Speaker 05

  So she probably kept it going.

• 41:48Speaker 04

  So she got caught now?

• 41:49Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 41:50Speaker 05

  Oh, shit.

• 41:51Laci Mosley?

  She got caught now. No, this is more of a recent development.

• 41:54Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 41:54Laci Mosley?

  I'm not gonna lie.

• 41:55Speaker 04

  What's the crime and how many years? Cause like.

• 41:58Speaker 05

  Wait, no, that's why I asked, was it PPP or SBA? Because a lot of PPP loans got forgive, got forgiven.

• 42:03Laci Mosley?

  Well, the thing is, it's only for rich people. Like Khloe Kardashian's PPP loan was forgiven, but then like.

• 42:08Speaker 05

  She had a PPP loan?

• 42:09Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 42:10Speaker 05

  Yeah, all, Diddy had.

• 42:11Laci Mosley?

  All the rich people.

• 42:13Speaker 05

  And like multi, Chris Brown had a PPP loan?

• 42:15Laci Mosley?

  And they were like for millions and millions of dollars.

• 42:17Speaker 05

  And all of them got forgiven. Forgiven, but if you took out 35,000, baby, they coming for that.

• 42:22Laci Mosley?

  Okay, if you took, if you was Lil Blue from Pretty Ricky.

• 42:26Speaker 05

  Baby Blue. Pretty Ricky, Ricky, Ricky. Oh yeah, he got caught.

• 42:30Speaker 04

  No, that was a sad fall from grace.

• 42:32Speaker 05

  Well, no, the problem, well, here is the problem too. He chose to do it and spend money on Lambos.

• 42:37Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, he did get some Lambos.

• 42:38Speaker 05

  Bro, he got some fucking cars.

• 42:40Laci Mosley?

  What are you gonna do? You gotta get some Lambos.

• 42:43Speaker 05

  Now, no.

• 42:44Laci Mosley?

  Yes, you do, you need them.

• 42:45Speaker 05

  That is how the woman who worked at Amazon got caught. You can't be sitting here pulling up to the parking lot in Lambos and baby, you didn't have that last year.

• 42:54Laci Mosley?

  Not the FBI pulling up like it's five in the morning.

• 42:58Speaker 05

  Period.

• 42:59Laci Mosley?

  Surveillance on you.

• 43:01Speaker 04

  I'm really trying to think, like, if, maybe me 10 years ago, well, 10 years ago, I would've been 25, so wait. Nah, some real shit. When I was getting big checks at work or something big happened, cause I worked at commissionable jobs.

• 43:12Speaker 05

  You went and got Lambos.

• 43:13Speaker 04

  No, I was getting gold teeth and shit. I was, I'm from Florida. I went right to BB.

• 43:19Speaker 05

  What part of Florida?

• 43:20Speaker 04

  Orlando.

• 43:21Speaker 05

  Orlando, 407 Chappa City. Oh, you from Florida, Florida.

• 43:23Speaker 04

  So bitch, I went to BB and then I went to Hot Topic, because I was always little alt girls. I get a cool little spike bracelet for my tight little bandage dress and it goes two to the bottom. That's what I'm finna do. Then maybe I'm gonna get me a little ponytail like yours, except it's gonna not move my face.

• 43:38Speaker 05

  Those are all still not.

• 43:39Speaker 04

  It's an eyebrow lash.

• 43:39Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you gotta get an eyebrow lash.

• 43:41Speaker 05

  Those aren't, those aren't six-figure purchases.

• 43:43Laci Mosley?

  They aren't.

• 43:44Speaker 04

  But still, I only had $300 and I spent $350.

• 43:49Speaker 04

  Do you know what kind of-

• 43:50Laci Mosley?

  I had three hundred dollars and I spent through fifty.

• 43:51Speaker 04

  Let me tell y'all a scam I used to do that I actually forgot about. Okay, so, no matter how much you overdraft, as long as it's one time, it'll be thirty-five dollar fees.

• 44:00Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 44:00Speaker 04

  So I would go with niggas to the clubs, trap niggas, I'd be like, oh, I get credit card points if you let me pay on my card. So they would hand me cash, I wouldn't have the cash in my bank account, but the card would still go through. So then it was like my cheaper payday loan instead of amp scot.

• 44:15Laci Mosley?

  That's genius, okay, you weren't paying any kind of exorbitant interest rates, you know, you were getting from the community bank.

• 44:22Speaker 04

  Hello, a credit union.

• 44:24Laci Mosley?

  That's a credit union, if I've ever heard of one.

• 44:27Speaker 04

  And then, I remember once when I was like going over it with the guy that I was asking for, uh, like my first secured credit card.

• 44:33Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 44:34Speaker 04

  He was like, how can you afford to spend a thousand dollars at Taboo nightclub? I'm like, I don't know, I didn't know what to say. But anyway, it worked out.

• 44:42Laci Mosley?

  That's what you say, y'all is somebody else's business. So, no, but I love this, this is actually really smart, and then you weren't paying those, because payday loans are a scam, and they cannibalize on people-

• 44:53Speaker 04

  They do.

• 44:53Laci Mosley?

  -who need money fast and can't afford to make choices when it comes to lending. It's like, if you need the money now, it's like, whatever the interest rate is, you go pay it. It's like, if I feel a pain in my chest and my left side goes numb, I'm going to the hospital. I'm not gonna be like, what, how much the ambulance, hold on, before I get in, like, you know, like, you're going.

• 45:12Speaker 04

  I do, and I have money now. Girl, I woke up one morning shivering, thought I was gonna die, called my mom, I said, Mom, I think I'm dying. I had a kidney infection, which is a-

• 45:20Laci Mosley?

  Oh no!

• 45:20Speaker 04

  And literally I'm on the phone with her, and she's like, girl, I'm gonna call nine-one-one. I said, oh no, that's a, I don't have, I don't know how much that ambulance bill gonna be, I can just call an Uber. And I called the Uber to come pick me up and take me to the hospital, I wasn't getting in no ambulance, what?

• 45:33Laci Mosley?

  I'm Ubering to the hospital as well.

• 45:35Speaker 04

  I'm Ubering to the hospital.

• 45:35Laci Mosley?

  Like, Uber's really our first responders, like, y'all delivering the groceries, y'all taking us to the hospital.

• 45:40Speaker 04

  Do you know that they're not allowed to drop you off at the emergency room? I went to go visit a friend who was in the waiting room.

• 45:45Laci Mosley?

  What, they stopped doing that?

• 45:46Speaker 04

  So it's a thing, they're not- I got dropped off.

• 45:48Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I got dropped off. Okay, I did, I did switch the location on the way there.

• 45:52Speaker 04

  No, mine was to the ER, and this nigga wanted to stop at every light, I was literally like, bruh, can you like- Get me there, my nigga. You know, you see where the pin is at. Took me straight to the hospital. ER, emergency room.

• 46:06Laci Mosley?

  If you Uber, you got water for me, you should also have a little emergency cone you can put on the top of your car.

• 46:15Laci Mosley?

  Yes, fuck a phone charger, get the, get the little.

• 46:18Speaker 04

  No, that's my thing, there was no traffic, it was three o'clock in the morning. It was three o'clock in the morning.

• 46:21Laci Mosley?

  Okay, yeah, no, he needs to be more serious.

• 46:23Speaker 04

  But I got dropped off right at the ER.

• 46:25Laci Mosley?

  Well, yes, so, back to the 2025 fall from grace for Ms. Stephanie, who was everyone and no one at the same time. So Fraud City, there were plenty of COVID reliefs, like Weezy was saying before, there's plenty of COVID relief fraudsters out there, right? You have the US Small Business Administration guaranteed aid to keep businesses afloat and keep employees paid during the pandemic using Paycheck Protection Plans, PPP. Um, and 800 billion dollar loan initiative, so they was really giving out the peace and peace and peace. And so many financial tech firms that facilitated these loans did no due diligence to prevent fraud.

• 46:59Laci Mosley?

  Uh, one fintech, Cabbage, approved hundreds of loans for fake farms, including what claimed to be a potato farm in Palm Beach, Florida, where potatoes notoriously.

• 47:11Speaker 04

  Grow in Florida?

• 47:12Laci Mosley?

  No, no. An orange grove in Minnesota, because you know how the orange groves in Minnesota be.

• 47:18Speaker 04

  Those are my favorites.

• 47:19Laci Mosley?

  My favorite oranges is the Minnesota.

• 47:22Speaker 04

  That was really good.

• 47:24Laci Mosley?

  And cattle farms on a sandbar in New Jersey.

• 47:27Speaker 04

  Get the fuck out of here.

• 47:28Laci Mosley?

  Because cows love the beach.

• 47:31Laci Mosley?

  They weren't looking into anything, they were just approving every single loan. They're like, what's it for? It's for our cows on the beach.

• 47:36Speaker 04

  Why didn't I do this? I'm actually really mad.

• 47:39Laci Mosley?

  Because you didn't want to be in prison, Weezy.

• 47:40Speaker 04

  Fuck that.

• 47:41Laci Mosley?

  But you do own a business, you could have probably got yours forgiven for funsies.

• 47:44Speaker 04

  So, I'm not gonna hold you, literally, we had this conversation, so we were thinking about expanded trap house to Atlanta, because of course, that would pop, right? Pilates is a trap. And literally, my business partner on the phone with me, she was like, "Fuck, why isn't it the pandemic? We would've been done." We would've literally bought all our reformers with fucking PPP loans. I was like, "Yo, it's so true."

• 48:06Laci Mosley?

  They're not wrong.

• 48:07Speaker 04

  Because during the pandemic, what happened for all of us, right? Mandy started a business, I started a business too. So it's like, you end up sitting down and really putting your head in it, like, "Hey, I have to pivot. What's next?" To know that the government was funding us to be on our own, like, "Fuck, I might be on Stephanie's side."

• 48:24Laci Mosley?

  It sucks that they want to put all the small-time people in prison.

• 48:27Speaker 04

  They do.

• 48:27Laci Mosley?

  And then they wiped out all these millionaires' debts. And I'm like-

• 48:30Speaker 04

  And did.

• 48:31Laci Mosley?

  Like, Chloe can pay y'all. She got all that jean money.

• 48:34Speaker 04

  Listen-

• 48:34Laci Mosley?

  And listen, them jeans-

• 48:36Speaker 04

  They not cheap.

• 48:36Laci Mosley?

  They not cheap, and they actually pretty nice.

• 48:39Speaker 04

  No, good Americans, this is not a net.

• 48:41Laci Mosley?

  She doing something over there with that stuff, so I'm just gonna say that. But, you know, they're getting hundreds of billions of dollars, possibly up to a trillion dollars in PPP loans in this time period. So Stephanie Hockridge, she accounts for a pretty big chunk of that PPP.

• 48:58Speaker 04

  How big?

• 48:59Laci Mosley?

  Saying something. So she left her news anchor job in 2020, and weeks later, she co-founded a financial tech firm in Scottsdale with her husband Nathan Reese. They called their new company Blue Acorn. That sound like-

• 49:11Speaker 04

  Ooh, he looks like a racist.

• 49:12Laci Mosley?

  Some financial- oh, that picture's called "Me the Hard R." Oh, my goodness.

• 49:17Speaker 04

  I'm not gonna lie to you, these are the types that just are cops by face.

• 49:21Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 49:22Speaker 04

  Not by trade.

• 49:23Laci Mosley?

  He don't even have to wear a cop uniform. If I saw him, I'd be like, "Good evening, officer." Like, that's the man.

• 49:27Speaker 04

  This is very much, "What you doing there, boy?"

• 49:29Laci Mosley?

  Right. Hey, it's pretty late to be out right now.

• 49:32Speaker 04

  What was his back- do we know what his background was?

• 49:35Laci Mosley?

  Well, we don't know his back-

• 49:37Speaker 04

  Because I'd just love to know how, in 2020, after coming off of losing your job or quitting your job as a news anchor, how you then just opened up a financial firm? I mean, I don't think that's crazy, though, because you gotta think, a lot of people that are like, starting new businesses, get into tech, they get into different type of shit. At the time, you probably don't-

• 49:56Speaker 05

  That's why I asked what his background was, because no, people don't just wake up and say, "I'm gonna start a financial firm today."

• 50:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, sure.

• 50:02Speaker 05

  There has to be some sort of, like, what the fuck?

• 50:05Laci Mosley?

  Can we figure out what the husband did?

• 50:07Speaker 05

  Yeah, what the husband do- Did he work at like, at a hedge fund? Did he work at, you know, anything that-

• 50:14Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, cuz jumping into finance just randomly-

• 50:16Speaker 05

  And I have, I was an accountant, like, and I worked at a big four firm, investment bank, like, you don't just jump in-

• 50:22Laci Mosley?

  I can't imagine you as an accountant. Like, I can intellectually, but just like at a desk in a job.

• 50:28Speaker 05

  I worked at Goldman Sachs and Ernst & Young.

• 50:30Laci Mosley?

  That's fucking crazy.

• 50:31Speaker 05

  I can, I know. Literally, everyone was like, "Bitch, you don't have the personality of an accountant." I felt offended, but also-

• 50:37Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you have a little bit too much risk for accounting.

• 50:39Speaker 05

  Listen, and that's why I'm no longer in it.

• 50:41Speaker 04

  What about a scammer accountant?

• 50:43Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, okay.

• 50:44Speaker 05

  You know, the ones that be doing tax, they be like, "I'll get you fifty thousand back. You ain't got no kids. I'll make kids."

• 50:49Laci Mosley?

  Yes. Your friends got kids. How many people can we claim as dependents?

• 50:53Speaker 05

  Well, yeah, just making a financial firm in the middle of the pandemic is a little, okay.

• 50:58Laci Mosley?

  It's a lot. So, they processed over twelve point five billion in PPP loans.

• 51:03Speaker 05

  Billion?

• 51:04Laci Mosley?

  Yes, that's with a B. With a B. Twelve point five billion.

• 51:08Speaker 05

  Oh, that's why she got caught.

• 51:09Laci Mosley?

  With somewhere between two hundred fifty million and three hundred million going to the company's ownership, including Miss Stephanie herself, Miss Girl.

• 51:17Speaker 05

  Where the fuck were they living? On a yacht?

• 51:19Laci Mosley?

  Right. Like, I'm sorry, if I make twelve billion dollars doing anything, I know it's illegal. I got to leave the country.

• 51:24Speaker 05

  Well, because they dispersed a large amount of it to, I guess, whoever they were doing it for.

• 51:28Speaker 04

  Oh, true.

• 51:29Speaker 05

  Like, they didn't keep all the billions, but they probably kept at least one.

• 51:32Speaker 04

  I ain't gonna hold you. I would've stopped at a good ten mil.

• 51:36Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I thought, I'm like, we need to get into the billions.

• 51:38Speaker 05

  The billions?

• 51:39Laci Mosley?

  You know you're going to jail when you're in the billions. Somebody's gonna know.

• 51:42Speaker 05

  Bitch, you know you're going to jail once you earn a hundred million.

• 51:44Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 51:45Speaker 05

  Once you get to nine figures, it's too far.

• 51:47Laci Mosley?

  It's too far. And like, if you're gonna do this kind of heist, then it's like, don't wait for the government to find you, like, make your number that you gonna get out with, and then if it's your ten million, or if it's okay, we'll stop at a billion, and then leave the country.

• 51:57Speaker 04

  I think this is easier said than done, though, because you know how it's like, you watch people just continue to like, push themselves, be successful, like, all three of us do, I'm sure, right? Maybe you really can't stop.

• 52:10Speaker 05

  No, it's a compulsion.

• 52:11Speaker 04

  All the drug dealers I used to date, I'm like, bro, you already have a nice house.

• 52:14Speaker 05

  Well, there's people, there's people that.

• 52:16Speaker 04

  It was their passion.

• 52:17Speaker 05

  Well, there's people that push the goalposts. Like, if ever you see a movie, right, where they're bank robbers, they always say, this is the last one, but the last one was the last one. Like, it's a thrill, it's excitement, like, damn, this is still working.

• 52:31Laci Mosley?

  So, their part, back to them, their partner lenders facilitated almost three times as many PPP loans in 2021 than JP Morgan Chase and Bank of America combined. They're like outdoing the financial institutions. Their mom and pop startup loans.

• 52:48Speaker 04

  Combined.

• 52:48Laci Mosley?

  Yes, combined.

• 52:49Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 52:50Laci Mosley?

  So, even though only one Blue Acorn employee was directly involved in processing loan applications and no one at the company had any training on loan underwriting. So, they had one person processing all the loans. They had no idea how loans worked, but they was getting all these loans, more than Bank of America and JP Morgan Chase combined. So, the more loans you process, the more fees you collect. So, Blue Acorn, their company, received over a billion in taxpayer-funded processing fees for facilitating these loans for people. So, they were the middleman of people getting these, like, fake-ass loans. So, they would recruit people to submit for loans, which they weren't eligible, and Blue Acorn would fake their payroll records, tax documents, and bank statements.

• 53:34Laci Mosley?

  So, in one instance, Stephanie and her boot-thang Nathan obtained a PPP loan for more than $136,000 for a company that didn't have any employees. You know, the employees are vibes. The employees are the people we met along the way.

• 53:48Speaker 04

  But also, many businesses don't require employees. Like, so, if you're, you would think you probably could scam it out.

• 53:56Speaker 05

  Well, no, that's why I know, like, I asked my accountant at the time, like, nigga, I want the PPP. I said, I pay people, but they weren't on payroll. Which means, like, you had to actually have payroll. So, independent contractors, if you were a company that paid people through W9s and stuff like that, you technically didn't qualify for PPP, because you actually had to be paying into payroll.

• 54:15Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, like an ADP or something.

• 54:17Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, but a lot of production companies think about it like that are independent in LA. When they got PPP loans, like you could just be registered as a DP or an editor, director, or whatever. And like boom, there's all that money.

• 54:28Laci Mosley?

  Type shit. You're right. You are absolutely right. I mean, I'm sure we all have LLCs and corporations, obviously. But so it's like that is a company. I don't have any employees at the moment, but it is a company.

• 54:40Speaker 04

  Right.

• 54:41Speaker 05

  This is why people got in trouble. This is how people got in trouble.

• 54:43Laci Mosley?

  Nah, fuck that. This is why I admit that I did a PPP.

• 54:46Speaker 04

  Get her out. We need help.

• 54:47Laci Mosley?

  Yes, yes. We have to get through Stephanie and her shenanigans here. So, um, they took out that $136,000 loan, but didn't have no employees for the company. Then they charged borrowers a kickback or a success fee based on the percentage of loans that were funded. So if people like went.

• 55:03Speaker 04

  How much, how much, how much?

• 55:04Laci Mosley?

  So it, it just depended. So it was like, if they got the loan for you and it was a large amount, they were like, okay, we're gonna need a little cut of that.

• 55:10Speaker 04

  We all need 10%. I mean, they deserve it.

• 55:12Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, they do. Cause they, they putting together all the lie documents for you. Payroll, tax, you know, like they, they doing it. So Stephanie and Nathan instructed staff to prioritize speed over accuracy, cause that always leads to good things.

• 55:26Laci Mosley?

  It just does. Application reviewers were told to push through questionable applications, ignore red flags, and skip identity checks unless fraud was extremely obvious.

• 55:39Speaker 04

  Because the oranges in Minnesota was like, what?

• 55:44Laci Mosley?

  They're like, I don't know. If it's like the Fire Fest guy, no, don't give him no PPPs. Billy, we probably can't have that.

• 55:49Speaker 04

  But at the same time, he really was about to make a festival. Diplo was gonna be there.

• 55:52Laci Mosley?

  I was trying to go. I was even gonna go to Fire Fest to boost on the ground. I needed to understand.

• 55:57Speaker 04

  I, I did kinda wanna go to two. I was like, yo, they do a little influencer joint. I'm finna go.

• 56:01Laci Mosley?

  He could've really did this shit for real. It's just that he don't wanna be serious. Billy don't ever wanna be serious about nothing. He just wanna do molly and be on boats.

• 56:09Speaker 04

  You, I do too.

• 56:12Speaker 04

  Billy called me, yeah.

• 56:13Laci Mosley?

  You have to do more, there's more to life than Molly and Bo's. It can only be a small percentage, like 25% of life.

• 56:21Speaker 04

  I'm with that.

• 56:22Laci Mosley?

  Yes. Some staff processed hundreds of loans with no training, sometimes within 30 seconds each. So they was just like stamp, stamp, approved. Not paying attention. Yes.

• 56:34Speaker 04

  Hold on, let's just say they took 10% of 12 billion. What is a billion?

• 56:40Laci Mosley?

  We just got the calculator.

• 56:41Speaker 04

  That's 12 million, that's 120 million. Ooh, it doesn't even fit on my calculator, that's, okay, now I got 12.

• 56:46Speaker 05

  They got a lot.

• 56:47Speaker 04

  10%.

• 56:48Speaker 05

  They got a lot, let's see, I want to hear.

• 56:49Speaker 04

  My calculator broke.

• 56:50Laci Mosley?

  Damn, they stole so much money, we just got calculator broke. So the original fee structure for PPP loans meant that small loans netted like blue acorn, a few hundred dollars, while large loans would yield tens of thousands of dollars, like with their kickbacks and their percentages and all this, right? So they started a VIPPP.

• 57:10Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 57:11Laci Mosley?

  Program that allowed high dollar clients to bypass standard review protocols. So if you needed a PPP but you was a VIPPP.

• 57:20Speaker 05

  They said, we're gonna take 20% of this one.

• 57:22Speaker 04

  Cows on a beach.

• 57:23Laci Mosley?

  Yes, it started as a nightclub, then they opened a bottle service section, this is the VIPP for PPP loan fraud, okay? We love it.

• 57:30Speaker 05

  They started in middle America and said, you know what, we're taking this on the road.

• 57:33Speaker 04

  How are they doing it so many years if COVID, when did?

• 57:36Laci Mosley?

  So you know, a lot of people didn't start to get picked up for those PPP loans until years after.

• 57:41Speaker 04

  Starting to get it right now?

• 57:42Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 57:43Speaker 05

  No, no, no, the PPP, they're no longer giving out.

• 57:45Laci Mosley?

  They're not giving it out no more.

• 57:46Speaker 05

  They're not giving out the loans anymore, but what they're doing, the same thing with like taxes, like how the IRS, take some time to get on your ass if you're not paying and shit, is the same thing. Now that they've given it all out, they're going back through the red flag.

• 57:58Laci Mosley?

  Exactly, so this company that just was stamping everything, every minute.

• 58:03Speaker 04

  The only scam that I really want to get involved in, that's not a real scam, but I would like to scam it, is the New York Housing Lottery. I don't know if anybody listening knows about this.

• 58:11Laci Mosley?

  If you win that lottery, it's almost better than winning a real lottery, don't you have to be on the list for like years?

• 58:16Speaker 04

  Yes, yeah, so I've had calls, but I never got chosen like over the years, but basically if you're listening, so because New York is such an expensive place to live. They have many apartment buildings, luxury apartment buildings, where they give a percentage of it, of it up. And basically do it for low-income New Yorkers and residents. Now, I don't wanna take from anybody, but I would like more.

• 58:39Laci Mosley?

  Listen.

• 58:40Speaker 04

  Cause I saw.

• 58:41Laci Mosley?

  I would go through the poor door, like.

• 58:43Speaker 04

  Oh, I was just gonna bring up the poor door. I don't give a shit. Put me with the motherfucking doorman and smoking on the corner, I don't give a shit. Fucking New York City luxury Florida steel windows high-rise. And I'm not talking about other boroughs. I'm talking about Chelsea, flat-ironed, no leotard. Punch me in that bitch, and I'mma tell you, I'll start dressing different. I don't give a shit. I quit one of my jobs for giving them a motherfucking housing lottery, because $900 for an apartment that's $4,800? Put me in.

• 59:10Laci Mosley?

  Literally.

• 59:11Speaker 04

  I'll do my own repairs. I'll be the plumber.

• 59:15Laci Mosley?

  Not you the super. You show up with a plunger.

• 59:18Speaker 04

  I have a W2 for one of my jobs, so I can't get in it. But I literally think every day, like, I will say, fuck this shit. I'm done. If they call me and I get in, I'm quitting.

• 59:28Laci Mosley?

  Oh, my gosh. Well, you kinda low-key have to. Like, if they call you, it doesn't matter if your lease is about to be up or wherever you're staying. You have to drop everything and take it.

• 59:35Speaker 04

  You have to break your lease if you're in a lease to go there, yeah.

• 59:39Laci Mosley?

  It's wild.

• 59:39Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 59:41Laci Mosley?

  I feel like you're not alone in that. Like, that's a New York fantasy. It's like a New York.

• 59:45Speaker 04

  I want a lottery apartment, yeah.

• 59:46Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 59:47Speaker 04

  Oh, my god.

• 59:48Laci Mosley?

  So in Slack messages, Stephanie and Nathan told their staff to dismiss smaller loan applications with phrases like, "Delete them," and "Who fucking cares?" And "They go elsewhere." Who fucking cares? We're not the first bank to decline borrowers who deserve to be funded. They go elsewhere.

• 1:00:04Speaker 04

  Bitch, okay. Okay, Steph.

• 1:00:07Laci Mosley?

  Now, she said you too broke. You borrowing too little.

• 1:00:09Speaker 04

  She said she wanted bigger, bigger borrowers.

• 1:00:12Laci Mosley?

  Yes. And so she in the Slack said, "Who fucking cares? Delete them."

• 1:00:17Speaker 04

  She said, "They're peasants."

• 1:00:18Laci Mosley?

  Literally.

• 1:00:19Speaker 04

  Get these peasants out of here.

• 1:00:20Laci Mosley?

  We gotta steal faster than that. That's not stealing, we not stealing fast enough with them. Tell them to go home. So in one message, Stephanie said, "Closing these monster loans will get everyone paid." In another, she referred to a $1.9 million loan as a deal. She wrote, "I don't need to tell y'all how much Blue Acorn makes off that loan alone." Like, these are not deals. Like, these are loan.

• 1:00:43Speaker 05

  These are loans that should be repaid.

• 1:00:46Laci Mosley?

  And you're also like just faking paperwork for people. Now you're calling it deals?

• 1:00:49Speaker 04

  But I wonder if they never thought their hands were dirty because they weren't taking out the loans.

• 1:00:53Speaker 05

  If you're making up fake statements, if you're also finding documents.

• 1:00:57Speaker 04

  Maybe they thought, "Oh, someone else is gonna get caught with this loan, not us."

• 1:01:01Speaker 05

  You're faking, you're making all the fake documents.

• 1:01:04Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, but they don't have your name on them, though.

• 1:01:07Speaker 05

  You are the company creating the fake documents. It's the same thing why all those nurses in New York got locked up during COVID.

• 1:01:14Laci Mosley?

  Like, they were going for the scam.

• 1:01:15Speaker 05

  Right. The people carrying the fake COVID vaccine cards weren't the ones that went to jail. It was the people falsifying the fake vaccine cards that went to jail.

• 1:01:26Speaker 04

  I found a stack of COVID cards. I forgot where I was. Oh, oh, I was on the fucking subway. I was waiting at the, uh, like, you know, the little brown?

• 1:01:37Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:01:37Speaker 04

  So it wasn't on the subway. It was, anyway. I'm sitting down and I'm looking at it and I'm like, is that like forty of them? So then I'm looking around because I'm like, nigga, do I sell them?

• 1:01:48Laci Mosley?

  Right, are we slaying?

• 1:01:49Speaker 05

  No, no, let's be very clear. This is how we know our government is a crock of shit.

• 1:01:53Speaker 04

  Right.

• 1:01:53Speaker 05

  There is no other document, ever, that is accepted as a handwritten doc. Like, it was on a fucking piece of card.

• 1:02:01Laci Mosley?

  Listen, the girls didn't have enough time, okay? I won't lie, I had to fill in my second, uh, COVID shot on my thing. And it wasn't because I didn't actually get it. I'm not anti-jab. I got, I jabbed up. But, I was like, jab me, some more. But, um.

• 1:02:16Speaker 04

  Some more.

• 1:02:17Laci Mosley?

  So I was like, I got asthma. I need to be a first in line.

• 1:02:20Speaker 05

  And then, and then they was like.

• 1:02:22Laci Mosley?

  I got asthma, I love hookah, put me in line.

• 1:02:24Speaker 05

  They were like, you finna become a.

• 1:02:25Laci Mosley?

  A zombie and I said, that's fine.

• 1:02:27Speaker 04

  That's cool.

• 1:02:27Laci Mosley?

  I ain't gonna try to outrun them motherfuckers anyway.

• 1:02:29Speaker 04

  Thinking that if you put the Q-tip deeper, it was like a better result?

• 1:02:32Laci Mosley?

  Yes. Oh, my God. I had my brain scrambled like never TT. They was all up in my shit.

• 1:02:38Speaker 04

  I had to get one to go back into the US. I remember I was in Mexico and my boyfriend came out and he was like, ooh, like I remember hearing him and I was like, oh shit, I ain't going in there. So now I went in and I'm like, alright, I was negative when I got here. So I'm trying to like negotiate with lady, please, I'll give you, I'll give you a hundred dollars. Like, please. I was so terrified that I would start bleeding and I just remember it was two of them holding me down.

• 1:03:00Laci Mosley?

  Holding you down?

• 1:03:01Speaker 04

  Because I was terrified, but I needed to get in. I was in the airport. Bruh, you remember how hot it was going? And all I remember is uno, dos, tres. I was like, ah! Everybody was like, there was kids scared because of me. Girl, I'm pussy.

• 1:03:13Laci Mosley?

  No, they crazy.

• 1:03:15Speaker 04

  You should see me.

• 1:03:16Laci Mosley?

  They should not be holding you down for anything in the airport. So in one text message, she's Stephanie. Blamed one loan rejection on her husband's failure to forge a Schedule C tax form. That's because Nathan is terrible at Photoshop. So she blamed like this not getting done on her man. She was like, my man's is not good at Photoshop and that's why your loan got rejected. Sorry. Um, a queen, honestly, like rob your man, blame things on your man. Like, that's what your man is for. So Stephanie.

• 1:03:47Speaker 04

  They have Canva?

• 1:03:50Laci Mosley?

  I think, yeah, this is a now times. Like, there's Canva.

• 1:03:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, there's so many options.

• 1:03:55Laci Mosley?

  Too much access.

• 1:03:56Speaker 04

  You could literally do it on your phone now. Like, I'm confused.

• 1:03:58Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I'm pretty sure you could take a screenshot.

• 1:04:00Speaker 04

  I'm gonna make y'all a COVID test right now.

• 1:04:01Laci Mosley?

  Yes. So Stephanie's devices contained original and altered versions of 1099 forms, one of which was fraudulently increased from 57,000 to 157,000 to qualify a borrower for a larger PPP loan. So they were like, oh, you actually have this money.

• 1:04:16Speaker 04

  They said, let me add a one.

• 1:04:17Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, this add a little one. Look, I'm just giving your application a little risk, okay? Like, it's like a dating profile, but for money. I'm trying to get you with all the likes, okay? You gotta take this picture of you holding a fish up off the page, okay? We don't want to talk about pineapples on pizza. I'm trying to make you sexy, okay? Sexy for loans.

• 1:04:36Laci Mosley?

  So Stephanie and Nathan fabricated documents, as we know, for them, but they also did it for themselves too. And they applied for hundreds of thousands of dollars in loans for which they were not eligible.

• 1:04:48Speaker 05

  Clearly.

• 1:04:49Laci Mosley?

  Okay. They said, if you can treat it.

• 1:04:52Speaker 05

  You can do it.

• 1:04:53Laci Mosley?

  So they got over $300,000 in paycheck protection loans for themselves. On one application, Nate claimed that he was a veteran and black.

• 1:05:04Speaker 05

  Oh, no, he didn't do that. Okay, now I know he's racist. He did not.

• 1:05:09Speaker 04

  They did DEI, you'll get whatever you need. I don't give a shit.

• 1:05:12Speaker 05

  He did not.

• 1:05:13Speaker 04

  Call me Jamal.

• 1:05:14Speaker 05

  You know why he did that? He says, right now, Black Lives Matter, so.

• 1:05:17Laci Mosley?

  He was like, all this woke nonsense, the woke media.

• 1:05:21Speaker 05

  He said, I'm black.

• 1:05:22Laci Mosley?

  He was right. He was like, the DEIs are getting all the loans. I bet you he didn't even write a black on the application. He wrote, they were like, race and ethnicity. He was like, D-E-I.

• 1:05:33Laci Mosley?

  I'm a DEI. I'm a woke.

• 1:05:36Speaker 04

  I'm gonna tell you right now.

• 1:05:37Laci Mosley?

  I'm not gonna lie.

• 1:05:38Speaker 04

  I don't know if this photo was while they were rich. That watch would have been looking different for me.

• 1:05:42Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, that watch ain't quite it. But maybe he was trying to do quiet luxury. I mean, when you're a black man and a veteran, but also white and not, you really gotta keep it a low profile.

• 1:05:52Speaker 05

  Bruh, this is, you know what, however, however we have to justify what we think about these motherfuckers, I hate them. They deserve all the years they're about to get, just because of this fact right here.

• 1:06:04Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I'm so sorry. Just the fact that Nate was claiming that he was black. Like, what, you stolen dollar and why you gotta be black? Why, why are we in it?

• 1:06:11Speaker 05

  And why?

• 1:06:12Laci Mosley?

  And also, you should have known they was gonna pick your ass up fast to see he was black on some damn PPP loans.

• 1:06:17Speaker 05

  That's probably what got you caught.

• 1:06:17Laci Mosley?

  They came for the black people first.

• 1:06:19Speaker 05

  That's what got you caught.

• 1:06:19Speaker 04

  He'd be like, hey, that was another black person. He wasn't me.

• 1:06:22Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 1:06:23Speaker 05

  He said, Baby Blue got caught and Nathan was right after that.

• 1:06:26Laci Mosley?

  Maybe he thought if the feds slid, he would be like, do I look like a black veteran?

• 1:06:31Laci Mosley?

  Do I?

• 1:06:33Speaker 04

  At the wrong house. I don't even like them. I don't even have, I don't have them work for me. That's funny as shit. Wow.

• 1:06:41Laci Mosley?

  Oh, my gosh. So in another application, this is Nate again, the out of pocket husband. He claimed to be an independent contractor in his wife's business. But documentation obtained by a congressional committee shows he was never paid by that company. Okay, he was, he was white when he did that. So Stephanie and Nathan both answered no to a question about whether they owned other businesses or multiple PPP loan applications for multiple businesses. In messages to her dad, Stephanie coached him on how to apply for three PPP loans. And she told him, come up with a side job you did for extra cash, like independent consultant.

• 1:07:18Speaker 04

  Oh, no.

• 1:07:19Laci Mosley?

  Uber driver. She thought her parents would receive $60,000 in free money. Her dad eventually got $41,500 in PPP funds.

• 1:07:28Speaker 04

  Get the fuck out of here. Well, at least they were taking care of the family. At least they were taking care of the family.

• 1:07:34Laci Mosley?

  Okay, but if.

• 1:07:34Speaker 04

  That's why drug dealers give the hood, like money's back to the hood, so.

• 1:07:37Laci Mosley?

  Yes, but see, okay, but that's to me, giving back to the hood, like with the profits. Then it's like, I'm not making you an accomplice in a crime. Like, she could have been doing the crime and then just been like, oh, dad, crime is going great. I just wanted to slide you a little bit. No, don't have your.

• 1:07:51Speaker 04

  Oh, I think they did.

• 1:07:52Laci Mosley?

  No, don't instruct your dad how to do fraud and now he's implicated. You could have just broken him off some.

• 1:07:58Speaker 04

  I think parents be down. I'm telling you right now, if I called my mom and said, hey, somebody from the tax office about to call you. I need you to say, you live with me. She'd be like, okay.

• 1:08:07Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, for sure.

• 1:08:07Speaker 04

  My mom down.

• 1:08:08Laci Mosley?

  How long have I lived with you?

• 1:08:10Speaker 04

  Do you want to do it right now?

• 1:08:11Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 1:08:12Speaker 04

  You want to do it?

• 1:08:12Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. Uh, wait, wait.

• 1:08:14Speaker 04

  She's about to call her mom and see if her mom is down to be a part of a scam.

• 1:08:18Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 1:08:19Speaker 04

  Hold on, wait. Let me see. Hey, comma, somebody's about to call you to verify my income. You need to make sure you live with, say you live with me. That's not much of a scam. I thought you were gonna say something more scammy. No, no, no, just start asking her random questions. We can't call her for my number. I just live live. Oh, give her the number. Wait, wait, wait, wait, we gotta call her.

• 1:08:36Laci Mosley?

  Wait, oh, my gosh. We are literally live fracking.

• 1:08:40Speaker 04

  Wait, wait, and I'll be like, did you see my text?

• 1:08:44Speaker 04

  Oh, my God.

• 1:08:46Speaker 04

  She'll be like, she works at T-Mobile, right? Just start saying shit.

• 1:08:52Laci Mosley?

  My mom's about to be like, what? Actually.

• 1:08:56Speaker 04

  Cold calling her might be even better.

• 1:08:58Laci Mosley?

  Okay, now I'm sure.

• 1:08:59Speaker 04

  My name's Gila.

• 1:09:02Laci Mosley?

  She ain't answering. She probably napping. She just texted me. Fuck.

• 1:09:08Laci Mosley?

  Look, we tried.

• 1:09:08Speaker 04

  So, this is how I know my mom down.

• 1:09:10Laci Mosley?

  But I know she would do it.

• 1:09:11Speaker 04

  Because one of my homegirls and I prank called my mom when I was in high school. She was like, hey, we just want you to know, like, she got suspended because she was talking back and doing this. Not my child. You got the wrong girl. No, she wasn't. She was like, I'm telling you right now, she was passing notes in class, saying bad stuff. I, it was somebody else did it, because it wasn't my fucking child. And the next time you want to play on my phone, da-da-da, I mean, it was going off. And I was like, damn, I really am bad. So, I don't even know why she took off for me like this.

• 1:09:37Laci Mosley?

  I, no, because she got to stay in our business.

• 1:09:39Speaker 04

  Hello.

• 1:09:40Laci Mosley?

  Okay? We are united friends, and then when we get behind closed doors, things get a little dicey, that's.

• 1:09:46Speaker 04

  Very much so.

• 1:09:47Laci Mosley?

  Exactly. That's what we like, why you taking me down? Why you got, I gotta go off work early to come down to the schoolhouse, because you out there showing your motherfucking ass.

• 1:09:53Speaker 04

  Calling my mom to supply. Okay, got it.

• 1:09:59Laci Mosley?

  A real one.

• 1:09:59Speaker 04

  Hello.

• 1:10:00Laci Mosley?

  A real one. Her mom is calling me back. Hi.

• 1:10:04Speaker 05

  Hi.

• 1:10:05Laci Mosley?

  Um, I have a reference down here for, for Gila, Joel?

• 1:10:09Speaker 05

  This is Joel.

• 1:10:11Laci Mosley?

  Yes, yes, um, so I have a application in front of me with Gila. I, I'm, I, she's your daughter, correct?

• 1:10:18Speaker 05

  Correct.

• 1:10:19Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 1:10:20Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:10:21Laci Mosley?

  So, we were just verifying her living situation, um, and income. Uh, she works at T-Mobile?

• 1:10:26Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:10:28Laci Mosley?

  Okay.

• 1:10:29Speaker 05

  She has a lot of businesses.

• 1:10:30Laci Mosley?

  Okay. Yeah, we just have to, like, assess, like, some finances and collateral and things like that, and payment history and things like that. She also said that you two live together?

• 1:10:38Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:10:40Laci Mosley?

  How long have you two been living together?

• 1:10:43Speaker 05

  My husband's in a nursing home. So, about eight years.

• 1:10:48Laci Mosley?

  Eight years. Okay, that's perfect. That's, that's exactly what she wrote. Okay, awesome. Thank you.

• 1:10:53Speaker 05

  She has excellent credit. I don't understand.

• 1:10:55Laci Mosley?

  Oh, she said she has excellent credit?

• 1:10:57Speaker 05

  Oh, I know she does.

• 1:10:59Laci Mosley?

  Oh, okay. Can you sell this? Well, mom, this was a scam.

• 1:11:03Laci Mosley?

  I had a bunch of fucking.

• 1:11:04Speaker 04

  Businesses and now.

• 1:11:11Speaker 04

  Ma, now, hold on, ma, we need to clarify this, wait. So if somebody called you, and I'm trying to get along, why would you say, she has, she has a bunch of businesses?

• 1:11:20Laci Mosley?

  On top of working at T-Mobile.

• 1:11:24Speaker 04

  That wasn't. T-Mobile doesn't sound like a bunch. Ma, that wasn't a good lie. I wasn't trying to lie. You did.

• 1:11:32Laci Mosley?

  We don't live together.

• 1:11:33Speaker 05

  Y'all only lived together for eight years.

• 1:11:35Speaker 04

  You said, ooh, you were really trying to think how long it was.

• 1:11:38Laci Mosley?

  No, honestly, though, she convinced me. She convinced me so much that y'all lived together eight years, I started writing down eight.

• 1:11:44Speaker 04

  No, that was good. Okay, you passed the test, ma, bye.

• 1:11:52Speaker 05

  I wonder what your momma would do.

• 1:11:53Laci Mosley?

  Oh, my goodness.

• 1:11:55Speaker 04

  That is hilarious.

• 1:11:55Laci Mosley?

  You got a real one.

• 1:11:56Speaker 04

  Now she bringing up a nursing home to get, and now, it's true, but you see, she was trying to pull it to heart, she, my husband in the nursing home, she asked all that.

• 1:12:05Laci Mosley?

  She was giving me extra information, because when I said T-Mobile, she was like, she has a lot of business in it. I know she got good credit, because I know. Because I know she was trying to get you that long. She was gonna get you that long.

• 1:12:14Speaker 04

  Because you know what, every time my momma see I'm about to get some money, she be like, damn, what are we gonna do with this?

• 1:12:18Laci Mosley?

  Right. Oh, my God, I can't wait to see what vacation we go on.

• 1:12:21Speaker 04

  Girl, the second we became New York Times seller, my mom said, how much extra do you men to get?

• 1:12:27Speaker 04

  Nothing, girl.

• 1:12:28Laci Mosley?

  I love it. So we're getting to the end of this story. I can't.

• 1:12:33Laci Mosley?

  Mom calling me, and she was really standing on, on lie business.

• 1:12:37Speaker 04

  Andy.

• 1:12:38Laci Mosley?

  She, it was quick with them.

• 1:12:39Speaker 04

  Real quick.

• 1:12:40Laci Mosley?

  The only one, only one where I was like, how long you live together? She got a little tripped up for a second, was like, ah.

• 1:12:46Laci Mosley?

  Let me clear my throat, um.

• 1:12:47Speaker 04

  Let me see.

• 1:12:49Laci Mosley?

  But then she came back with a strong lie number. Eight is a very good lie number.

• 1:12:52Speaker 04

  Eight is a long.

• 1:12:53Laci Mosley?

  Ten feels too, ten feels too round, five feels a little made up, eight feels like.

• 1:12:59Speaker 04

  We been in this.

• 1:13:00Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, we been in this. And she kind of gave me a little lore with it. It's like, are y'all enjoying living together?

• 1:13:04Speaker 04

  No, no, she wrong for the second.

• 1:13:06Speaker 05

  Well.

• 1:13:07Laci Mosley?

  This thing has a, listen. Talent, talent. I see where it comes from, okay?

• 1:13:12Speaker 05

  Fuck you.

• 1:13:12Laci Mosley?

  Talent. So, living it up. According to public records, Stephanie and Nathan left Blue Acorn, that was their loan company that they made up, and relocated to San Juan, Puerto Rico.

• 1:13:23Speaker 05

  I know they did.

• 1:13:24Laci Mosley?

  Which has no capital gains tax in 2021. Now, see, that's what I'm talking about. If you gonna steal a bunch of money, then you need to leave town. Now, unfortunately.

• 1:13:32Speaker 05

  No, bitch.

• 1:13:32Laci Mosley?

  Puerto Rico is still a US territory. That's still a US territory.

• 1:13:36Speaker 05

  Why the fuck you ain't go overseas?

• 1:13:37Speaker 04

  You know, when white women wear baseball caps like this with some kind of inscription, you're like, oh, country club wealth.

• 1:13:41Laci Mosley?

  Yep, and they might be on the run, apparently.

• 1:13:44Speaker 05

  Well, she is drinking her Whispering Angel with a straw, okay?

• 1:13:47Laci Mosley?

  She is, because you know what? You need a bottle of wine with a straw when you're living like this, okay? It's stressful, okay?

• 1:13:53Speaker 05

  Damn. They moved to Puerto Rico.

• 1:13:55Laci Mosley?

  She's, she's, look, they so on the run, she ain't got time for cups, okay? You can't run with a glass in your hand.

• 1:14:02Speaker 05

  But they so on the run.

• 1:14:03Laci Mosley?

  Bottling the straw, okay? We can't, we got time to pour the shit, because we can't stay that long.

• 1:14:10Speaker 05

  You could tell they weren't friends with already wealthy people.

• 1:14:13Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:14Speaker 05

  Because nobody would have advised them to go to Puerto Rico.

• 1:14:16Laci Mosley?

  Well, you know, she was probably like a part of the Arizona elite, because she was the Arizona elite.

• 1:14:22Speaker 05

  The Arizona elite is crazy.

• 1:14:25Laci Mosley?

  I'm sorry if you live in Arizona. Y'all can be elite. Y'all can have y'all house.

• 1:14:29Laci Mosley?

  Y'all rock parties at the Rock Garden. Y'all don't have lines, right? Anyways, but yeah, the Arizona elite, because you know, she on the news, she on TV, so she was probably hobnobbing and schmooching for Oregon. So, but you're right, the hat is giving, it's giving something, and it's not a recession indicator for sure. But baby, y'all shouldn't have gone to San Juan, that's still in America.

• 1:14:48Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:14:48Laci Mosley?

  Leave Estados Unidos.

• 1:14:50Speaker 05

  Territory. That's crazy.

• 1:14:53Laci Mosley?

  Bruh, they didn't tell y'all? We colonized that. You, you got to go a little further. So, they filmed a video showing off large amounts of cash in a bar and on the balcony of a luxury beachfront apartment. So, I don't know if I would call that a bankroll.

• 1:15:09Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's, that ain't that much.

• 1:15:11Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I guess, this is large amount of cash in like, white people perspective, because like, black people don't hold that.

• 1:15:17Speaker 05

  Money phone. I've seen men with larger bankroll.

• 1:15:20Speaker 04

  I'm putting it up to my face and taking fake phone calls.

• 1:15:23Laci Mosley?

  And I'm seeing some like dollar bills, like babes.

• 1:15:25Speaker 05

  Yeah, this look like a one.

• 1:15:26Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, is that a one? Yeah, where are the blues?

• 1:15:29Speaker 05

  It don't look blue enough for me.

• 1:15:30Speaker 04

  It also don't look, it looks kinda used.

• 1:15:32Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:33Speaker 04

  I want that money fresh.

• 1:15:34Laci Mosley?

  Did you rob a stripper? It's given, the stripper was getting the money, you was on the ground scraping it up real fast. Before security caught you. That's what it's given. Nah, you went to Ace of Diamonds and you started sweeping up the floor. Like this ain't how it go.

• 1:15:45Speaker 05

  But wait, how they got caught?

• 1:15:47Laci Mosley?

  So, well, when Nathan started a new company, a lending service, it was a consultancy named Lender Service Consultants LLC. I mean, straight to the point, we lender service, we consultants, I'm here for it. The address for the company is a three-story luxury apartment that sold for $2.3 million in 2020 and features a plunge pool and two koi ponds. Okay, this sounds very nice.

• 1:16:11Speaker 04

  Oh, I love a koi.

• 1:16:11Laci Mosley?

  I love a fish.

• 1:16:12Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:16:13Laci Mosley?

  For opulence. So Stephanie posted a photo of herself in a bathtub, holding stacks of money to her ear. Oh, she did the money phone?

• 1:16:21Speaker 04

  Of course she did.

• 1:16:22Laci Mosley?

  The photo isn't publicly available, which is heartbreaking, but it was exhibited at her trial.

• 1:16:27Speaker 05

  That's what we doing.

• 1:16:28Speaker 04

  I ain't never seen one.

• 1:16:30Laci Mosley?

  She said, "Who calling me? They better not be, bruh."

• 1:16:32Speaker 04

  Who calling who? Who's calling my, who's calling?

• 1:16:35Laci Mosley?

  That's what she probably put on there. I mean, this is so damn recent, she might have had some.

• 1:16:38Speaker 04

  Right, she was like.

• 1:16:39Speaker 05

  She was drinking that shit.

• 1:16:40Laci Mosley?

  Who calling the feds? It's like, it's the feds. It's the F, the B, and the I.

• 1:16:44Speaker 04

  The F, the B, and the I.

• 1:16:46Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 1:16:46Speaker 04

  And probably the C, the I, and the A.

• 1:16:51Speaker 04

  To the C.

• 1:16:52Laci Mosley?

  The I, R, and the S would also like a word.

• 1:16:55Speaker 04

  All of the alphabet, okay?

• 1:16:57Speaker 05

  Bet you did a PPP, you getting other acronyms, bitch.

• 1:16:59Laci Mosley?

  All the acronyms coming at you. All the acronyms have to slide to your home, okay? You about to have USPS.

• 1:17:05Speaker 04

  Everything.

• 1:17:07Laci Mosley?

  Everybody named mama, okay? DMV, they coming too. Air about it. Okay, don't scam with them acronyms. But at Stephanie's trial in June, prosecutors said she once described the PPP program as $100 billion of free money.

• 1:17:23Speaker 04

  What?

• 1:17:23Speaker 05

  Wow.

• 1:17:24Speaker 04

  Is that what she thought?

• 1:17:25Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 1:17:25Speaker 05

  Money is never free.

• 1:17:27Laci Mosley?

  I don't know, I wanna live in this mindset. I feel like I've been thinking money costs money for so long, or time, or energy, or blood, sweat, and tears. But I wanna be more on Stephanie's vibe of like, money is free, give me, give it to me.

• 1:17:40Speaker 04

  And no hold barred, we did some strange things for change. If you read that book, you gonna be like, oh, money really ain't free.

• 1:17:46Speaker 05

  Money is never free, especially when it's a loan.

• 1:17:49Laci Mosley?

  Or helping for relief.

• 1:17:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, whenever they say relief, they do expect you to get relieved.

• 1:17:55Laci Mosley?

  Like this wasn't called.

• 1:17:57Speaker 04

  And then when you relieve, you gotta pay back.

• 1:17:59Laci Mosley?

  They like, okay, now go ahead and run it on back.

• 1:18:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, this one they called a grant.

• 1:18:02Laci Mosley?

  No, it was not called a grant. Shit, even unemployment. I once got unemployment from a place that like wrongfully terminated me. And it was so wonderful because the job I had worked before that, I made way more money.

• 1:18:14Speaker 04

  Uh huh.

• 1:18:14Laci Mosley?

  And so they had to pay me what I had been making that whole year.

• 1:18:17Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 1:18:18Laci Mosley?

  And I remember like after I got off, I got my first like serious regular acting role while I was on unemployment. So I was like, thank God for this firing. But when I got off of unemployment and I was no longer needing the relief and I was relieved.

• 1:18:31Speaker 04

  Oh, you still gotta pay taxes on it.

• 1:18:32Laci Mosley?

  Unemployment was like, oh, actually, we gave you too much. And actually, you need to pay taxes on that money that we took out of your taxes so that you had a safety net if you weren't working.

• 1:18:40Speaker 04

  Mm hmm.

• 1:18:40Laci Mosley?

  Okay, we do need to tax.

• 1:18:41Speaker 04

  This is a real thing. There's a girl I want to hire that currently works at Orange Theory. And she was like, well, I only can give you two classes a week until I'm finished paying off my debt with them. So I think she robbed Orange Theory. She said they overpaid her her hourly rate. She thought she got a raise two years ago. She now has to pay them back by working until it's off. I said, well, how many, how much is it?

• 1:19:06Laci Mosley?

  Homegirl is a serf.

• 1:19:08Speaker 04

  Eighteen thousand dollars.

• 1:19:10Laci Mosley?

  You are, no.

• 1:19:11Speaker 04

  They were paying her like forty more per class.

• 1:19:15Laci Mosley?

  That's, that sounds like an orange problem.

• 1:19:17Speaker 04

  That's your bet. That's your bet.

• 1:19:18Laci Mosley?

  No, I'm like, what do you mean? Now I'm a slave.

• 1:19:21Speaker 04

  Have you talked to a lawyer? And she's like, apparently, like whatever I signed, if they mistakenly pay me, if I didn't fix it, yeah.

• 1:19:28Laci Mosley?

  Okay, see, I've heard of banks, like if they accidentally deposit money into your account that's not yours, if you spend it, they will be on your ass. Like, I've heard about that.

• 1:19:35Speaker 04

  Leaving the country, depending on how much money goes into my account, fuck that.

• 1:19:39Laci Mosley?

  No, yeah, yeah.

• 1:19:39Speaker 04

  Now you paid a hundred a class and now you're getting one forty. I ain't saying shit. The podcast will be recorded virtually moving forward. I now live across the pod, okay?

• 1:19:49Laci Mosley?

  You gonna see me in Thailand. Always in the shadows and her voice is altered.

• 1:19:54Speaker 04

  That Zoom background, that's not, yeah, yeah.

• 1:19:56Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. Yeah, no, it's always a Zoom background, but it's just looking not like a location anymore.

• 1:20:01Speaker 04

  Listen.

• 1:20:04Laci Mosley?

  It's always like a movie title behind it.

• 1:20:06Speaker 05

  She said, "I thought this hundred billion dollars was free. That's crazy."

• 1:20:09Speaker 04

  No, but you have to pay shit like that back.

• 1:20:11Laci Mosley?

  Man, I love the confidence, though, of like just going through life, thinking that money could be free. And, you know, I want a little bit of that for me.

• 1:20:19Speaker 05

  So if this just happened in June, we don't know sentencing or anything yet, right?

• 1:20:21Laci Mosley?

  Well, so she was found guilty on one count of conspiracy to commit wire fraud, and not guilty of four other counts. Nathan's trial is scheduled for August, where he faces similar charges.

• 1:20:32Speaker 05

  But excuse me?

• 1:20:32Speaker 04

  She in jail?

• 1:20:33Speaker 05

  She only got one out of four?

• 1:20:36Speaker 04

  Because she fucking gave him the rest of that money. She paid somebody off. Bitch, I'm finna haunt the jury.

• 1:20:41Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yeah. No, no, no. We doing some tampering.

• 1:20:43Speaker 05

  Someone got paid off.

• 1:20:44Laci Mosley?

  We gotta do some tampering.

• 1:20:45Speaker 05

  Because they made a billion dollars. Like, they got the money, they paid somebody off.

• 1:20:49Speaker 04

  That whispering angel?

• 1:20:51Laci Mosley?

  Right. Purr. Okay, she was like, "Y'all August whispering angel." Yes. I mean, I'll ask you your final thoughts.

• 1:20:58Speaker 05

  I want white people, if you do the crime, do the time, damn it. And this is what I'm saying. What sucks about really America? The fact of the matter is, you have to bust your ass to become rich, because if you become rich, you no longer have to follow the law. Law's no longer.

• 1:21:17Laci Mosley?

  Merely suggestions.

• 1:21:18Speaker 05

  It's literally what the fuck. Like, bro, we, look at our, our president is literally a felon.

• 1:21:22Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, for sure.

• 1:21:23Speaker 05

  It doesn't matter once you have money. Nothing matters.

• 1:21:25Laci Mosley?

  No. And, and what's wild to me is that we know that Pretty Ricky, not Pretty Ricky, I keep wanting to say Pretty Ricky, but baby blue out of Pretty Ricky. He had to go to the clink.

• 1:21:35Speaker 05

  He did. He got out, and now they're on the millennium, like, they're back touring.

• 1:21:38Laci Mosley?

  You know what?

• 1:21:39Speaker 04

  That's all we gonna do. We get out. I better get out to jail to a job.

• 1:21:42Laci Mosley?

  He better run, run to the stage.

• 1:21:44Speaker 04

  I wanna say chill.

• 1:21:46Laci Mosley?

  Put the baby on the way.

• 1:21:47Speaker 04

  That part.

• 1:21:48Laci Mosley?

  Grind on me. You better be out there.

• 1:21:50Speaker 04

  I would literally pay, I would buy a ticket over and over. I'm finna help my niggas get out.

• 1:21:56Laci Mosley?

  Right. Get out the wood. Put them Lambos back, sir. Uh, I mean, we'll see what sentencing that they get, but this is still a fresh story, so we don't know how much time they're gonna be doing, if any time at all.

• 1:22:08Speaker 04

  Bring us back for the recap.

• 1:22:11Laci Mosley?

  But low-key, like, I mean, they just took advantage of the situation, but they got real corporate with it. Like...

• 1:22:16Speaker 04

  That white collar should be hitting.

• 1:22:17Laci Mosley?

  It hits different.

• 1:22:19Speaker 04

  I hate it. I hate it.

• 1:22:23Laci Mosley?

  Well, thank you both so much for joining me.

• 1:22:25Speaker 04

  That was fun.

• 1:22:25Laci Mosley?

  What a wild ride and for bringing your mother.

• 1:22:29Speaker 04

  My mom has probably got so many scam stories. She's literally never had a job. She's been a housewife her entire life.

• 1:22:33Laci Mosley?

  Love that for her. Need that for everyone.

• 1:22:36Speaker 04

  You asked Jewel, what did you do when you were young? I had a boyfriend and a husband. I didn't have to do much.

• 1:22:42Laci Mosley?

  Oh, my God. Jewel's like one of those people that, have you ever seen those TikTok videos where it's like a really rich woman getting out of like a very expensive car?

• 1:22:48Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:22:49Laci Mosley?

  And they're like, oh, what do you do for a living? Or like, what do you do for work? And she was like, work.

• 1:22:53Speaker 04

  That's my mother.

• 1:22:54Laci Mosley?

  Like confused and got her car.

• 1:22:56Speaker 05

  You also gotta be careful now. Those are, they're doing those with AI.

• 1:22:59Laci Mosley?

  Oh.

• 1:23:00Speaker 05

  So a lot of those videos.

• 1:23:01Laci Mosley?

  I gotta count the fingers now?

• 1:23:02Speaker 05

  They're literally not, well, they've gotten better with the fingers. But a lot of those videos now, like the man on the street stuff or that stuff is all AI.

• 1:23:09Laci Mosley?

  Man on the street?

• 1:23:10Speaker 05

  It's all AI. It's AI now. Yeah, like he knows.

• 1:23:14Laci Mosley?

  Damn, AI is really like, let us do your joy for you.

• 1:23:18Speaker 05

  Listen, the influencers, there's a lot. There was one girl, I only knew it was a, I saved the video and I was like, oh, this is cool. She like slurped a whole chicken wing and it was gone.

• 1:23:26Laci Mosley?

  Oh, man, I saw the one with the black girl that she was eating the mukbang with the.

• 1:23:30Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:23:31Laci Mosley?

  It was like shrimp and lobster and stuff. Yeah, it came out of nowhere and then the butter came out of nowhere into her hand.

• 1:23:37Speaker 05

  It's AI. It's AI.

• 1:23:39Laci Mosley?

  Are you serious?

• 1:23:39Speaker 05

  There were two girls doing a mukbang and I thought it was real until literally the crab leg turned into a champagne glass.

• 1:23:44Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 1:23:45Speaker 05

  And I was like, oh, this is AI.

• 1:23:47Laci Mosley?

  Her hands turned into butter. And I was like, wait a minute.

• 1:23:50Speaker 05

  Yeah, like there's so many of them now. It's crazy.

• 1:23:53Speaker 04

  It's on my feed.

• 1:23:55Laci Mosley?

  Let's keep it that way. Let's keep it that way. It is absolutely terrifying, though. But where would you all like to be found? Anything people can tune into your social media, all of those things.

• 1:24:05Speaker 04

  Every single Monday, we do Decisions, Decisions. If you've heard of us before, you may have heard from our podcast, Horrible Decisions. It's now on Patreon. But go and support the book, No Holes Barred. It's the most exciting thing that we're promoting right now. We are New York Times bestsellers. We would love to be back on the list. So come and support us. It's a very good book. I would suggest this book to anybody that wants to have something in their hands that's erotica and self-help. It's a phenomenal book. Check it out.

• 1:24:30Laci Mosley?

  Yes. Okay, and then.

• 1:24:33Speaker 05

  And it check out your cousin.

• 1:24:34Laci Mosley?

  Oh, my God.

• 1:24:35Speaker 05

  I mean, she said all the things we're doing now. And if you want to follow us, we are going to bookstores signing our New York Times bestselling book. And so y'all make sure y'all go get that.

• 1:24:46Laci Mosley?

  One more time, you know it was on the New York Times Bestseller list.

• 1:24:48Speaker 05

  Oh, we read it.

• 1:24:49Laci Mosley?

  The one at New York Times.

• 1:24:49Speaker 05

  You have to sell it.

• 1:24:50Laci Mosley?

  With the bestseller list.

• 1:24:52Speaker 05

  The Times, the best selling New York.

• 1:24:53Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, the New York Times.

• 1:24:53Speaker 05

  The New York Times, that one.

• 1:24:55Laci Mosley?

  What time it was, it was time for New York.

• 1:24:56Speaker 05

  It was time for New York bestsellers. You know, period.

• 1:24:59Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, just in case y'all, because y'all need to know. No, that's like big time. Like, I'm so proud of you.

• 1:25:04Speaker 05

  It's half a percent of it.

• 1:25:05Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 1:25:06Speaker 05

  It's of authors. Like, yeah, it's like, it's really, it's the Grammys for authors.

• 1:25:11Laci Mosley?

  And you did it.

• 1:25:12Speaker 05

  And we did it.

• 1:25:13Laci Mosley?

  Period. Clark it.

• 1:25:15Speaker 05

  Thank you, Lacey. Thank you so much for having us.

• 1:25:17Laci Mosley?

  Thank you both for being here. Like, I loved Horrible Decisions. I'm so excited to meet both of you. And this has been a revelation. I feel like I'm gonna have to call my cousin now.

• 1:25:26Speaker 05

  I'm not supposed to.

• 1:25:27Laci Mosley?

  I'm gonna call Eric. But, yes, as always, y'all, you can see all of these photos. You gotta go look at Stephanie. She was a baddie, okay? She was a baddie. You'll never remember her, but she'll remember how she made you feel.

• 1:25:38Speaker 05

  Apparently, you gonna remember her rack. She's real fit, the tits. She's a real fit queen, just with the headshot.

• 1:25:46Laci Mosley?

  You're looking at one titty one time, and now you're the titty guy, okay?

• 1:25:50Speaker 05

  You are.

• 1:25:51Laci Mosley?

  Now I'm Boobs McGee, okay?

• 1:25:53Speaker 05

  Now Eric isn't, but...

• 1:25:54Laci Mosley?

  No, no, not a titty man, him. Maybe a firmer titty. But, yes, y'all gotta go see her. She's a real baddie that you could never kill. Or maybe in prison, we don't know yet.

• 1:26:06Speaker 05

  Right.

• 1:26:06Laci Mosley?

  You can see those on Scam Goddess Pod on Instagram. You can follow us at Scam Goddess Pod if you want to chat with me on Twitter. I'm D I V A L A C I D, Velaci, across all platforms. You can watch all of the episodes of my first season of Scam Goddess streaming now on Hulu. You can watch the first season of Going Dutch also streaming now on Hulu. I'm going back to Ireland to have a good crack. So we will have season two. And then you can get my book, Scam Goddess. Y'all need to get it on some more lists.

• 1:26:31Speaker 05

  Hello.

• 1:26:31Laci Mosley?

  Okay, because I did not make New York Times bestseller.

• 1:26:34Speaker 05

  Let me go in.

• 1:26:35Laci Mosley?

  And I need y'all to put me on some more lists right now. I need to be on some listicles.

• 1:26:38Speaker 05

  Period.

• 1:26:39Laci Mosley?

  Okay, some thought pieces, think pieces and whatnots, okay? I'm sitting, I'm sitting next to the New York Times bestselling author. I'm gonna be breathing a little bit of the air. I'm gonna take y'all juju with me. This is how I'm gonna get it. I love the cover. Thank you. Anywhere you get books, so you like to listen to books, get the book. Hello. And then y'all, I haven't said this in years, but I just thought about this randomly, but like, if you listen to this on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen, like, subscribe, leave a positive comment, uplift a queen. Period. Yes, okay? Drag a hater. All the comments can be about how hot you are on lists. I mean, there are some though. I'll be on some sexy lists, yes. Talk about how sexy I am in the comments, okay? And stream it with your baby in the other room on the iPad so we get even more stream.

• 1:27:24Laci Mosley?

  You know what we doing here, okay? You know we're orchestrating. One up them numbers. But yes. We scamming over here. We scamming over here, always. Congregation though, man, what a, what a, what a time to be alive with you two. That was fun. Congregation, I really want y'all to get out there and, ooh, mm. I want y'all to stay whispering like an angel.

• 1:27:52Laci Mosley?

  You funny.

• 1:27:55Laci Mosley?

  Scam Goddess. Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Our producer is Jessica Cisneros and our audio engineer is Rich Garcia. Research for the show is conducted by Kate Doyle. Stay scheming.

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