MBMBaM 836: Calling All Pazziniacs

We’ve got company coming over to talk about pizza mascots, so it’s super important we get everything done TONIGHT. We gotta fit it all in: figuring out why Pitbull never got into crypto, special pumpkin carving projects, and crafting home-spun armor. Suggsted Talking Points: Pitbull Worldwide, Esq., I’m An Actual Dog, Store is Square Space, Crocheted Crotch Guard Jordan Keyes: https://www.youtube.com/@itskeyes Center for Reproductive Rights: https://reproductiverights.org/

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• 0:00Speaker 00

  The McElroy brothers are not experts and their advice should never be followed. Travis insists he's a sexpert, but if there's a degree on his wall, I haven't seen it. Also, this show isn't for kids, which I mentioned only so the babies out there will know how cool they are for listening. What's up, you cool baby?

• 0:20Speaker 01

  It's the start of something beautiful. A small acquaintance has blossomed, it's rapid into a precious friendship. I could have never seen what was coming for me. Hangs at the skate park, hangs by the beach. My life, it feels like. Life, ah, it's better, it's better with you. My life, ah, it's better, it's better with you. This is true, ah, it's better, it's better with you.

• 1:03Speaker 01

  My life, ah, it's better with you.

• 1:09Travis McElroy?

  Hello, everybody, and welcome to My Brother, My Brother, Me, an advice show for the modern era. I'm your oldest brother, Justin McElroy. What's up, Trav Nation? It's me, your middlest brother, Trevics, Big Dog, Wolf, Vroom, Vroom, the heater, award-winning McElroy.

• 1:23Griffin McElroy?

  What's cracking, Trav Nation? It's me, your sweet baby brother, Griffin, 30 under 30, media luminary McElroy.

• 1:28Travis McElroy?

  I like that what's cracking. I like that. That felt.

• 1:31Griffin McElroy?

  Thanks. Yeah, I just came, I just came, I just came up with it.

• 1:34Travis McElroy?

  It was gay. We probably talk on this show more about the musical recording artist Pitbull than most guys like.

• 1:41Griffin McElroy?

  Alive on earth.

• 1:42Travis McElroy?

  Like alive on earth. I think especially, I would say for people that do not listen to the music of Pitbull, I would say I talk and think a lot, a lot about Pitbull. And just so people know, this is not a bit and it's like not a fake thing. Griffin and I recently did a show with our friends, the besties of video game podcasts in New York, and I had just seen the newest drop from, from Pitbull and it's always.

• 2:08Griffin McElroy?

  It was a top fan exclusive drop from Pitbull.

• 2:10Travis McElroy?

  Mr. Worldwide, we're not on a first name basis with Pitbull Worldwide.

• 2:14Griffin McElroy?

  Worldwide, yes.

• 2:16Travis McElroy?

  Yes, Mr. Worldwide Pitbull Esquire dropped a new one on me, and here's how I encountered it. It was like this triple layered dip of funkiness where I see Spotify, it's like, hey, Doug, got a new album for you, got a new drop. And I'm like, what? How dare you? And then they're like, it's a new Pitbull album. Like, okay, keep going. And they're like, it's called Pitcoin. And then I was like, okay, I guess I have to click on it. The choice is out of my hands at that point.

• 2:45Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah, you know what sucks is I saw the name of that album and I immediately invested. And then I was told that it's not an actual.

• 2:51Travis McElroy?

  Griffin, you're not alone.

• 2:53Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 2:54Travis McElroy?

  That was a big, cause I looked it up and I was like, surely this is associated, this is going to be.

• 3:01Griffin McElroy?

  Almost, almost certainly Mr. Worldwide has some sort of non-fungible tokens floating around.

• 3:06Travis McElroy?

  This is a, this is a, uh, what's we're looking for, multi-tier, this is a.

• 3:10Griffin McElroy?

  MLM?

• 3:11Travis McElroy?

  Yeah, well, there's an integration. I'm doing the album and crypto. No, but many people were confused and assumed so. And I looked it up and according to what I could find, and it's hard to believe this is true, not only does Pitbull not have a cryptocurrency of his own, but it's not endorsed any either.

• 3:32Griffin McElroy?

  It's a matter of time. It's a matter of time.

• 3:36Travis McElroy?

  There is a Pitbull coin that he is not associated with, which must bug him to no end. That is wild that there is Pitbull coin and that he has no association with it. You would think that he would be, he would want to cash, cash in on that. Now, if you've been paying attention to Pitbull, he has come up with something that I want to see if it's okay. Oh. And I don't know if it's all right. And he's done it once before and I think he got away with it and everybody was like, well, I guess it's okay this time, but now I'm going to have to share this, this one without audio, so apologies. But Pitbull and Jon Bon Jovi released a song called Now or Never is what the song is called.

• 4:20Travis McElroy?

  Now I say that, but here's what I'm telling you. It is the, the song, It's My Life for the first full minute. I mean, it's just that song again, and you probably heard it, you might have heard it. They did it on the Grammys. It was a whole thing. Mr. Bull and Mr. Bon Jovi. He also did this with Dolly Parton. Yeah, and it's not a new song. It's not a song. It's just like Jon Bon Jovi comes out and he's like, do you remember this? And then Pitbull's like, I do enough to rap about it a little. And then they're like, let's make millions of dollars.

• 4:58Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah. Imagine, imagine it's karaoke night and Jon Bon Jovi's It's My Life starts playing on the, and do you guys need me to?

• 5:06Travis McElroy?

  Yeah, if you could give us a sample of the beginning, Griffin, cause I'm trying to remember how you get into it.

• 5:11Griffin McElroy?

  I actually, um, my top box isn't plugged in and it's a huge pain in the ass. So we can just play a clip of me doing that.

• 5:17Travis McElroy?

  Okay. So we assume it was edited.

• 5:20Griffin McElroy?

  So is there. And it's, imagine it's karaoke night, someone gets up to do Jon Bon Jovi's It's My Life, but instead they just start yelling about how it's party time and everyone get loose, uh, everyone get ready to go, uh, tonight. A big theme is tonight is the night.

• 5:37Travis McElroy?

  Tonight.

• 5:38Griffin McElroy?

  Tonight.

• 5:39Travis McElroy?

  And another big thing is that. He has memento syndrome where he's like, this is, tonight is all I can remember. Tomorrow, I won't remember it and I don't remember yesterday. I've tattooed on my body here on my arm, tonight is the night. Griffin, I'm going to take your metaphor one step further and say, it's like if you got up to sing It's My Life and one minute into you singing It's My Life, somebody else jumped on stage and started doing a whole different song.

• 6:05Griffin McElroy?

  Tonight, I'm going to die at 12:01 a.m.

• 6:09Travis McElroy?

  The magic that is, uh, powers my body from a play construct to this physical form. I'm only real when you clap, you've gotta believe mama, or I'll disappear into a puddle of ephemera.

• 6:22Griffin McElroy?

  I'm a real fucking dog. I'm an actual Pitbull dog that's a fairy came and turned to a human being so I could get married to a woman in real life, but it hasn't happened. And so the curse breaks at 12:01. It's gotta be tonight. Give me everything tonight.

• 6:38Travis McElroy?

  But this was a year ago. And we all said it was fine for him to do the same song again, just with a more Pitbull. We let it happen. We didn't do anything to stop him.

• 6:49Griffin McElroy?

  If you give a Pitbull a Jon Bon Jovi pseudo cover, he will want much, much more than that from the world of classic rock.

• 6:54Travis McElroy?

  And now I want to talk about his new song that's with a band called Kiss. Now.

• 7:01Griffin McElroy?

  The Pitbull, the Pitbull of rock and roll party music.

• 7:04Travis McElroy?

  The, I, the, the fact that Amanda would email us about till death do us blart in the middle of when she knows we're recording My Brother, My Brother.

• 7:13Griffin McElroy?

  Don't jump scare us in the middle of my Bim Bam.

• 7:16Travis McElroy?

  What's wrong with you? Mr. Worldwide has done it again with Reach for the Stars, a song with Kiss. Who has, speaking of blart, there's your, the mini Kiss blart connection there. Kiss has sucked forever.

• 7:31Griffin McElroy?

  Kiss has always been so shitty.

• 7:34Travis McElroy?

  Kiss has two good songs and I'm not going to say what they are. Oh, yep.

• 7:39Griffin McElroy?

  No, no, Kiss has two good songs, but they're kind of, you have to take them from the bit, like the bridge of Detroit Rock City is fucking great. That's a great rock and roll number. You squish that in with like, you know, the, the tail end solo of rock and roll.

• 7:54Travis McElroy?

  Fucking rules. The point is some songs have been milked for so long and so deeply, they no longer contain any marrow. You can scrape the bones and there's nothing there. You can't get anything out of them. And I would argue that one of those songs, the most one of those songs maybe is I want to rock and roll all night and party every day by Kiss.

• 8:21Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah. You know, what's funny is of those empty songs, there isn't a song that has the word rock and roll in the title that is not completely all drained up, all used up and free of content.

• 8:34Travis McElroy?

  I would put this in that subgenre of like, I love it when like the, the Bob Seger missed that all time rock and roll. Like if you want to rock so hard, nobody's stopping you. Go fucking rock. You know what I mean? You want to rock and roll night, party every day? Why is your concert two and a half hours long, Gene? You know, just do it. It also does start to feel like a 50-year-old like dad of three being like, yeah, man, I want to rock and roll all night and party every day. And you're like, Doug, I know you're in bed at 9:30.

• 9:05Griffin McElroy?

  If you tried to party every day, Doug, you'd die, dude. You'd be dead as nighttime Pitbull.

• 9:12Travis McElroy?

  This is, it is, the intro of this song is so good because it covers all the bases. Kiss.

• 9:20Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 9:21Travis McElroy?

  That's the first thing. Mr. Worldwide.

• 9:24Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah, these are the, these are the lyrics.

• 9:25Travis McElroy?

  These are the lyrics of the song. Kiss, Mr. Worldwide, this is history in the making, inarguable, scale is questionable, inarguable the history's being written.

• 9:36Griffin McElroy?

  This hasn't happened before.

• 9:37Travis McElroy?

  This is happening now. Then he says, let's go. And this couplet we have next, I'm on a classic with Kiss. Uh huh. That's right. Having a blast. If, if you don't like what we doing, then you can kiss our ass.

• 9:55Griffin McElroy?

  I want Kiss, I want Gene to hop in here and be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

• 10:01Travis McElroy?

  Coming out strong.

• 10:02Griffin McElroy?

  Pitbull doesn't speak for us on this matter. Our music is an acquired taste. We understand that.

• 10:09Travis McElroy?

  Yeah, there is, but P S P S Gene and nobody else, nobody, Gene, not nobody, not Gene. No, no member of the band got into a recording studio for this. I guarantee Gene Simmons lawyers, lawyers barely knew about this collaboration. Guarantee. Mr. Worldwide went and bought a CD at Sam Goody. Yeah. And they had like played it on a boombox. I bought a classic from Kiss. It was on the sale rack. If you don't like what they're doing. The fact that he's, okay. So he said, is this a historic thing that's happening? If you don't like it, though, dude, he's, he's gotten ahead of us already.

• 10:44Griffin McElroy?

  He insists that they're having a blast. And that's a new turn of phrase from him, I feel like, to describe a party atmosphere. It feels very dad coded. The idea of like, hey, it's me, Pitbull. I'm having a freaking blast out here with my buddies from Kiss.

• 11:00Travis McElroy?

  From yeah, it's, it's, it's what like Carson Daly would say at the MTV Spring Break Beach House, two years after he should have still been there. Like, yeah, we're here having a blast.

• 11:12Griffin McElroy?

  Post-Terrorite breakup, sort of sallow faced Carson. Having a blast, spring break.

• 11:18Travis McElroy?

  I've listened to enough Pitbull to say that the two most common themes in Pitbull music are one.

• 11:24Griffin McElroy?

  Night's the night.

• 11:25Travis McElroy?

  Or well, one is, um, I assume that you are angry that I am doing this. Now you, you can kick rocks. And two, I know it's hard to believe I've made it to this point. Look at me now. And it's like, Mr. Worldwide, you've been doing this for at least 15 years from memory. I'm no longer surprised that you've made it to this point. Let the chip go. You know what I mean? Let it go. And, and it's hard because I do. I don't like what he's doing. You know what I mean? It's hard because he got me like dead to rights. It's like, I'm listening like, this sucks. And he's like.

• 12:08Griffin McElroy?

  Sucks. It's genuinely the shittiest song maybe ever put down.

• 12:12Travis McElroy?

  Because the next thing that happens is he just, it's just the chorus from I Wanna Rock and Roll All Night.

• 12:18Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah, you know, imagine it. You know it in your mind.

• 12:22Travis McElroy?

  Play it, but imagine it. Then, and then Pitbull's like, I'd like to do something a little different here, guys. I know that normally this isn't where I rap, but on this version of this song, which I renamed Reach For The Stars, uh, we're gonna do different words. I'm gonna say, hmm, maybe, Gene, what do you think about something like this? Now we're gonna rock 'em and roll 'em. Look at her booty. It's rollin'.

• 12:46Griffin McElroy?

  It's rollin' or it's swollen? I heard it's swollen.

• 12:50Travis McElroy?

  Genius.com says rollin', but I heard.

• 12:52Griffin McElroy?

  Genius.com can be wrong. I heard swollen. And that's way better than rollin'.

• 12:56Travis McElroy?

  No, because that makes it seem like a medical issue.

• 12:59Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 13:00Travis McElroy?

  She got stung by a bee.

• 13:01Griffin McElroy?

  It's fine.

• 13:02Travis McElroy?

  Then he says, I'm robbing the bank. So put your hands up. It's a holdup. He really jams the light of the meter there. Give me that boy right there from the bottom. Yeah, you name it. We got it. Yeah, you name it. We got it. You're talking money? We with it. From Las Vegas to China, we got them open like gynos. Uh, went from CeeLo to Cino's. Now I'm richy like Lionel.

• 13:27Griffin McElroy?

  He comes back, doesn't he? And he reminds you why he is the best. Like, he reminds you why he is still here. Is he'll say a line like, from Las Vegas to China, we got them open like gynos.

• 13:37Travis McElroy?

  Uh, and he's like, I don't think I could be more against this song at this point, right? Like, he's already like, pretty bad lyrically. Made some bold statements. Made some bold ones. And then he goes for what turns out to be the refrain.

• 13:51Griffin McElroy?

  The pre-chorus ostinato.

• 13:54Travis McElroy?

  I'm like Elon Musk. I'm on my way to Mars. Now put your hands in the air and reach for the stars. That now sucks. That just, it sucks. It sucks.

• 14:07Griffin McElroy?

  It sucks in a hundred ways, yeah.

• 14:09Travis McElroy?

  It's not like, well, that's the only thing that would have worked there. They're so, they're so, ah.

• 14:17Griffin McElroy?

  There's so many different things.

• 14:18Travis McElroy?

  Yeah, it's anything. It doesn't matter. But it's like the celebration of like, first of all, if Elon Musk is headed to Mars, I do support that. Like, if, if the plan is an unmanned mission to Mars, starring Elon Musk, damn the risks. Yeah, man. Yeah, man. At this current point in history and science where we have not figured out how to do it. Trav, that was implied. That was implied. You are now legally.

• 14:45Griffin McElroy?

  I love, I love an impy barbeque cane, earth to the moon sort of arc for Mr. Musk at this point. Uh, crashing that big creamy eyeball of, uh, that red planet. And have a good, have a good one. I don't know that that's what Pitbull's thinking of. There's so many ways in which you can be like Elon Musk. Maybe Pitbull was a big fan of Doja's arbitrary cuts to USA.

• 15:12Travis McElroy?

  That's true.

• 15:12Griffin McElroy?

  Which led to the deaths of a hundred, hundreds of thousands of real human beings. Maybe that's what Pitbull's like, I'm like that? Put your hands in the air and reach for the stars?

• 15:23Travis McElroy?

  I wanna be like Elon Musk.

• 15:24Griffin McElroy?

  I wanna have been married to Grimes. I don't want to be married to Grimes, but I want to have been married to Grimes.

• 15:31Travis McElroy?

  Reach for the stars.

• 15:33Griffin McElroy?

  Reach for the stars.

• 15:34Travis McElroy?

  None of the rest of the lyrics are about stars. That makes me think he wrote the line.

• 15:40Griffin McElroy?

  That's a good point, Travis.

• 15:41Travis McElroy?

  Musk, I'm on my way to Mars. Now put your hands in the air and reach for the stars. And then built an entire song around it.

• 15:48Griffin McElroy?

  And I think the pretext, there is maybe the least amount of pretext that you can pick up from earlier in the first verse is that put your hands up. It's a holdup. So this could be a threat of this is an actual, this is a stick up crime that he's doing.

• 16:01Travis McElroy?

  Give me that boy. What? Give me that boy from the bottom. What?

• 16:05Griffin McElroy?

  Put your hands in the air. I'm like Elon Musk. Don't move. Don't press the button.

• 16:09Travis McElroy?

  Elon Musk understands what it's like to come from the bottom of the diamond mine. Go all your way out. Then he, he's like, hey, guys, I don't think I, I'm empty. I got another, I got another, um, verse in the hopper. So Pitbull says this, he writes this down first pass. So cover the world with class. Same way I got girls in class.

• 16:31Griffin McElroy?

  Cool.

• 16:32Travis McElroy?

  Yeah. That's a little bit of, yeah, right. What is that? With the Kodak. Okay. He loves rhyming words with the same words. Love women that are sexy and smart with a whole lot of little bit of sass. Uh, never made it to the NBA. Never got an MBA, but that don't stop me from playing and owning business today.

• 16:52Griffin McElroy?

  I'm so sorry. Is he a registered National Basketball Association participant?

• 16:59Travis McElroy?

  He likes to go out on the court. He sits courtside and will sometimes just bolt out there and grab the ball. And they're like, mm.

• 17:06Griffin McElroy?

  It's okay.

• 17:07Travis McElroy?

  So he does the Mustang again. He does this chorus from that really, I mean, it's just a wretched song. And this doesn't recontextualize it in a way where it's like fun again. It just re-reminds you how utterly bankrupt it is of like, of any sort of value. And then there's a bridge that I shit you not, Mr. Pitbull says, from the window to the wall. We're gonna rock it. We're gonna rock and roll. From the window to the window to the wall, to the wall. We're gonna rock it. We're gonna rock and roll. Let's go.

• 17:39Griffin McElroy?

  No star stuff.

• 17:40Travis McElroy?

  That's just placeholder lyrics for now. I'll think of something else to put in there. Yada, yada, yada, coming up from the bottom, got 'em, hands in the air. Tonight's the night. Um, yeah, there's a comet headed for Earth. So reach for the stars.

• 17:54Griffin McElroy?

  Reach for the stars.

• 17:55Travis McElroy?

  It all ends at midnight. Hey, when you do the reach for the stars thing, you know, 10 seconds ago, you said it's a bank robbery and a holdup, but that's why we're reaching for the stars. Do you just want our hands up? Cause you could just say it. You don't have to trip us with stars and banks and whatever. Is, does he know that when you say reach for the stars, no one does that literally? Like, when you say to a kid, hey, man, yeah, reach for the stars, they don't start stretching up to the sky? I feel so hollow. Cause I've come to the end of this material and I feel like all I've done is play the exact role that Mr., like, that Mr. Bull wanted me to play. I feel like I am like, he's watching,

• 18:37Travis McElroy?

  like someone from his entourage is like, you got him again. And the word, he's like, they're just talking about it. And I'm so happy and wealthy over here. And everybody has kind things to say about me. Never believe it. Yeah, you never believe it. I know it's hard to believe how wealthy I am. Look where I am now. Yeah.

• 18:53Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah, no, we know. There's also the implicit demand that we must kiss the ass of Pitbull and the, I think, five old members of Kiss. I don't wanna kiss any of those old Kiss guys asses.

• 19:06Travis McElroy?

  Where have they been? Their bodies. I just don't think Pitbull should be allowed. This is my only thing I'm saying. Is I don't think that we should just be bringing out old dusty songs and then pretending they're new songs because Pitbull says they are. I don't think that that's fair. I think everybody should be writing new songs. I also feel like.

• 19:28Travis McElroy?

  I feel like at this moment in history, there's an ongoing discussion about the value of human-made art. And I just feel like we should all do our best.

• 19:41Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 19:42Travis McElroy?

  Be best behavior.

• 19:43Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 19:44Travis McElroy?

  Make a really good case for it, you know what I mean?

• 19:47Griffin McElroy?

  We're grading on a curve, you know what I mean? And this throws it off.

• 19:50Travis McElroy?

  We should just really be like, as humans, like, dialed in.

• 19:55Griffin McElroy?

  On point, yeah.

• 19:56Travis McElroy?

  If we're gonna keep up with this, like, no robot can make that, we gotta really, like, lock in.

• 20:02Griffin McElroy?

  We gotta make sure that we're sticking to landing, for sure.

• 20:04Travis McElroy?

  I think that if Mr. Worldwide, who was formerly Mr. Miami, by the way, and then when he hit, changed into Mr. Worldwide. If he's going to make songs about, can you believe I've made it where I am now? And look at all the things I got. I think we need to hold him to a level of accountability where some of that goes away. And then the next song features lines like, okay, I realized that I was a little bit wrong there. And I lost a little bit, so how about this? Can, will you let me get back to where I was before? I'm Mr. Florida now.

• 20:32Griffin McElroy?

  And he's always fighting his demons inside of him. And sometimes he needs a collabora- this is Kiss's fault.

• 20:41Travis McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 20:41Griffin McElroy?

  Cause we all know, he can make a banger when he doesn't, when the evil twin, when the wah pit bull doesn't come out.

• 20:48Travis McElroy?

  Inside of him, there are two pit bulls.

• 20:50Griffin McElroy?

  There are two pit bulls inside a pit bull. He needs Kesha to grab him and say like, you have it. The magic is inside you, Mr. Bull. I promise you, you gotta just shave off the stuff on top and, and you'll find it.

• 21:04Travis McElroy?

  This feels like, it does feel a little bit like Mr. Bull realized that he had absolutely saturated the demographic of young people that enjoy dancing and listening to music. And he was like, I'm gonna get those dusty old men, I swear to God. You watch me, hey, Paul, Jonathan, watch me. I'll get these dusty old men to my concerts, I don't care. I'll do it. I'm, I'm Mr. Worldwide. That doesn't mean stopping at dad's. You know what I mean? Mr. Worldwide doesn't stop at uncles.

• 21:32Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah, when you make the tent so big, you let in some fart gas. As it turns out, there was actually a gas leak right there. And when you expanded the flaps of the tent over it, you let the fart smell in.

• 21:46Travis McElroy?

  That's the problem with having a big, beautiful buffet is every once in a while, you're gonna find a few olives. You know, it's, it's not for you.

• 21:54Griffin McElroy?

  Absolutely.

• 21:57Travis McElroy?

  Um, Mr. Worldwide, as always, welcome on the show. Anytime, would love, that would, just stay away from these, these lesser impulses. Feed, feed your funky wolf pit bull.

• 22:08Griffin McElroy?

  You can ask Justin and Travis, I poo poo a lot of ideas around here. Mr. Bull, get me on, get me in this, in this suit.

• 22:16Travis McElroy?

  You need a no man.

• 22:17Griffin McElroy?

  I promise you, I can help you.

• 22:19Travis McElroy?

  Griffin will curtail a lot of your worst impulses.

• 22:22Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah, I promise you, it's my specialty. And a few good ones, yeah, they'll get caught in the thresher, for sure. But that's the, you can't break an omelet.

• 22:30Travis McElroy?

  Bitcoin.

• 22:34Travis McElroy?

  It's eight years too late to call it Bitcoin. It's like fifteen years too late to call it Bitcoin. There must be people on his team, his manager team are like, Pitbull, Mr. Worldwide, someone is going to start a crypto called Bitcoin. Please let us start it to go with the album. No! I'm saving it for an album title, it's gonna kick ass. Please, Pitbull, let us start it. No, I'm using it with this. No one will start a coin under it. How about a question? How about a question? How does he keep doing it? You know, time after time. I don't understand. Uh, I just got a new job

• 23:18Travis McElroy?

  working at a popular sit-down chain restaurant. I'll be starting with training shifts from the fourteenth to the sixteenth. And on the eighteenth, they'll be having a staff Halloween party. The bonding activity of the party is that everyone will get a pumpkin to paint. And there will be a contest for best pumpkin. Part of the problem arises in that I went to art school for sculpting and painting, and I'm a pretty good painter. Do I go to the party? If I do go, do I participate in the pumpkin painting contest? Do I paint to my full potential? Or do I gracefully paint a middle-of-the-pack pumpkin? Extra details, it is a barbecue restaurant. That's from painting pumpkins in Peg City. Which is Winnipeg, I didn't know that.

• 24:01Griffin McElroy?

  Well, I didn't either.

• 24:02Travis McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 24:03Griffin McElroy?

  Uh, the only additional details that would have been helpful there is if it was a pumpkin restaurant. And that doesn't exist.

• 24:09Travis McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 24:09Griffin McElroy?

  I don't know, I don't know that the barbecue restaurant puts any English on the ball necessarily.

• 24:14Travis McElroy?

  Man, I would wanna go if the company's paying for barbecue for you.

• 24:19Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 24:20Travis McElroy?

  That does make the party more enticing for me.

• 24:23Griffin McElroy?

  There's, there's a factor we can't answer for you here, which is like, do you wanna be pals with the people at this workplace? Or at least have them kind of know and acknowledge and respect you? Cause I do think busting out like, you know, a, a creative talent is, is a cool move. I mean, it's a cool move at a job. They learned something about you that doesn't have anything to do with barbecue. And that's all right, unless you don't want them to know that. I can't answer that for you.

• 24:47Travis McElroy?

  Well, I can tell from the wording of the question that I don't think there's a risk of you coming in and be like, watch out losers, I'm about to lose my art degree.

• 24:55Griffin McElroy?

  You're aware, you're aware of it.

• 24:57Travis McElroy?

  I would say there is a too far the other way where you're like, it's nothing, this is dumb.

• 25:03Griffin McElroy?

  It's nothing, it's nothing. And then you're like, smash ass.

• 25:05Travis McElroy?

  You should be politely humble.

• 25:09Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah, but then still smash ass.

• 25:10Travis McElroy?

  You're also really still running a risk of, I don't know, a little bit of hubris here, isn't it? I mean, yeah, I'm good, I think it's very good you went to art school and I'm, I celebrate that, but yeah, yeah, once you get out there, you just never know what people are gonna like, do you? Maybe they'll just put a funny face on one of them and everybody just love it. And then you'll be the one thinking, but I went to, but I went to art school. How can you like this funky pumpkin better than my incredible one? When it comes to pumpkin carving and painting, everyone thinks they're Mozart. But sometimes you're Soliary. You know what I mean? You go in, you're like, I'm classically trained. I know what I'm doing. And then like Stephanie from accounting rolls up and you're like,

• 25:54Travis McElroy?

  what, how, did she go to art school? And they're like, no. This is just, she's, she's just born to do it.

• 26:00Griffin McElroy?

  She just loves Halloween. You gotta respect the pumpkin as a medium. It can be a real B I T C H.

• 26:08Travis McElroy?

  I did the pumpkin carving contest this week and there were two different tables that carved out a big hole in the front and then had some sort of scene or projection there in the big hole, making a tableau. I'm sorry.

• 26:23Griffin McElroy?

  How do you feel about that, Juice?

• 26:24Travis McElroy?

  I'm sorry, but, um, I thought we were carving the pumpkins, not turning them into little stages. You know, it's like, are we using the pumpkin as a medium? Or are we using it as a proscenium? You know, which is it? Is it, is it, is it a canvas or is it a hallway? You know?

• 26:42Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 26:43Travis McElroy?

  Sorry.

• 26:44Griffin McElroy?

  Here's my pumpkin, it's

• 26:45Travis McElroy?

  Here's my pumpkin, it's one of, it's Tim Curry's face.

• 26:48Griffin McElroy?

  Season one of Family Guy, running on an iPad inside of the pumpkin hole.

• 26:54Travis McElroy?

  Unbelievable. Did I win? Well, the ra- the, the, the race is still on because it's voting by dollars, but I'm doing well because our, our folks are always very supportive.

• 27:06Griffin McElroy?

  What's the link people can go to to support?

• 27:08Travis McElroy?

  Givebutter.com slash H C M V I Ps twenty-six. How am I doing?

• 27:17Griffin McElroy?

  I'm pretty good, I didn't, I wasn't typing that.

• 27:19Travis McElroy?

  Yeah, I'm not gonna go to it. I thought you were typing it to go support. So, wow, that really hurt.

• 27:24Griffin McElroy?

  Can I just ask a question? Was, I already gave, first of all.

• 27:26Travis McElroy?

  Of course you did, you're such a good brother. I gave it the office.

• 27:30Griffin McElroy?

  If you saw Biddy Blaze in the ticker feed, that was, that was me. I did it under a pseudonym.

• 27:35Travis McElroy?

  Oh, you did it under Biddy Blaze, that's good.

• 27:37Griffin McElroy?

  I didn't want people to think that, you know, I, anytime I do that shit.

• 27:40Travis McElroy?

  You didn't want people to think you support your brother?

• 27:43Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah, well, I didn't want people to see that and be like, wow, Mr. Big Shot. So I always put in like a, like Biddy Blaze or something.

• 27:49Travis McElroy?

  Oh, that's hilarious, dude, I love that. That's really good. So anyway, did you, what were you saying?

• 27:54Griffin McElroy?

  What, when do you buy the pumpkin for carving for Halloween season? Cause I feel like I always have the thought in early October. And then I'm like, that shit'll rot or get smashed before, but then I'll wait too long and it'll be the twenty-ninth and then you're fucked. Cause the only thing that's left is like the bottom of the barrel, Snicklefritz pumpkin fucked up Kroger shit. And not the primo stuff.

• 28:18Travis McElroy?

  As long as you don't crack the seal, right? It lasts pretty long. It's once you open it up. Yeah, that it's like, now the clock is running.

• 28:26Griffin McElroy?

  Now bugs, now bugs.

• 28:27Travis McElroy?

  I'll tell you a hot new tip, this is a good one I just picked up. Carve the bottom out.

• 28:33Griffin McElroy?

  Oh, wow.

• 28:34Travis McElroy?

  Don't carve the top out with the handle and what all. Don't do that.

• 28:38Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 28:38Travis McElroy?

  Carve a hole out of the bottom, nobody gives a shit about the bottom. You don't even have to put it back in if you don't want to. Nobody cares.

• 28:44Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 28:44Travis McElroy?

  Just cut the whole fucking bottom out. If you really wanna cheat, like I do, you go buy one of those like foam fake plastic pumpkin things and then just carve that. You don't have to carve out the inside guts, you know? Teresa doesn't like the guts, she won't let me do the guts. And I was like, but I still wanna carve a pumpkin and find joy in it. And so, I carved the fake foam ones, it's great. And then they last year to year. I've got quite a collection of carved pumpkins. So, are you wearing a mask or something? Cause I would worry about you breathing in that particulate.

• 29:15Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah, that can't be good.

• 29:16Travis McElroy?

  I do it with several box fans pointing it away from me at the neighbor's house. Oh, sure, yeah, yeah, that's true. Hold on, well, let me just show you guys what I'm talking about. It's like, as long as we're here, let me just give you a good example of the people cheating.

• 29:31Travis McElroy?

  So it's like, okay, so this is my pumpkin on the right is a tribute to Tim Curry. As you can see, the eyes are a little bit okay.

• 29:39Griffin McElroy?

  How did you do the signature, Justin?

• 29:41Travis McElroy?

  What?

• 29:42Griffin McElroy?

  Do you have a Dremel?

• 29:42Travis McElroy?

  I freehand it with a Dremel. Yeah.

• 29:44Griffin McElroy?

  Fuck yeah.

• 29:46Travis McElroy?

  And then, and then over here to the left, I'm not going to dox anybody, but this person has cut a big hole in their pumpkin and then made a little scene in there like it's like it's a little town or a charming village.

• 29:58Griffin McElroy?

  But did they make this scene out of pumpkin stuff?

• 30:00Travis McElroy?

  No, it's just out of stuff they got at Hobby Lobby, I bet. They're that kind of person. I don't remember who it was, but still you get it.

• 30:08Griffin McElroy?

  And who put googly eyes on this one little gourd here? That pisses me off.

• 30:11Travis McElroy?

  That pisses me off, too. Look at this. This is a Craftsman.

• 30:14Griffin McElroy?

  Wow, dude, you, Justin, that's the handsomest you've ever looked in your entire life, bud. That's a really good pick of you, pal.

• 30:20Travis McElroy?

  Man, it's a real, it's Ryan at the HD. He always takes good pictures. And I was like, this is my moment. And that's a Craftsman working. What?

• 30:27Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 30:28Travis McElroy?

  That's a Craftsman.

• 30:28Griffin McElroy?

  Flow state.

• 30:29Travis McElroy?

  You look handsome as fuck, man.

• 30:31Griffin McElroy?

  You look so good, dude.

• 30:32Travis McElroy?

  That's a bat bow tie as a tribute to Mr. Curry.

• 30:34Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 30:35Travis McElroy?

  Awesome.

• 30:35Griffin McElroy?

  Anything could happen at Halloween.

• 30:37Travis McElroy?

  That's right.

• 30:37Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 30:38Travis McElroy?

  That's what they say. Anything can happen on this show unless you want anything to happen other than us taking a break to go to the money zone because that is what's going to happen. So like

• 30:48Griffin McElroy?

  It's gonna happen right now.

• 30:49Travis McElroy?

  If you want that to happen, good news. Your wish is granted.

• 30:54Griffin McElroy?

  Here it comes, here it comes.

• 31:04Griffin McElroy?

  You need website.

• 31:06Travis McElroy?

  Website, good.

• 31:08Griffin McElroy?

  Not website, bad. Website does not need you. That's important.

• 31:12Travis McElroy?

  Where get website?

• 31:14Griffin McElroy?

  Store?

• 31:15Travis McElroy?

  No.

• 31:16Griffin McElroy?

  Store?

• 31:17Travis McElroy?

  No website store.

• 31:18Griffin McElroy?

  I said it too quiet. Store?

• 31:19Travis McElroy?

  No website store.

• 31:21Griffin McElroy?

  Tree?

• 31:22Travis McElroy?

  No website tree. Squarespace website.

• 31:25Griffin McElroy?

  Yes.

• 31:26Travis McElroy?

  Store, uh, uh, uh, store is Squarespace.

• 31:31Griffin McElroy?

  No, this is good.

• 31:32Travis McElroy?

  Store is Squarespace.

• 31:34Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 31:35Travis McElroy?

  Squarespace likes store.

• 31:37Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 31:37Travis McElroy?

  Story square.

• 31:38Griffin McElroy?

  Brick and mortar Squarespace?

• 31:39Travis McElroy?

  Story's square. Store has space.

• 31:43Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 31:43Travis McElroy?

  Story is Squarespace.

• 31:45Griffin McElroy?

  Certainly no brick and mortar Squarespace. What even be on shelf? Great business. What be on shelf?

• 31:53Travis McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 31:53Griffin McElroy?

  Great business.

• 31:54Travis McElroy?

  Keyboard? Didn't stop a lot of businesses in the mid 20 teens from opening up storefronts. But

• 32:00Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah, fair.

• 32:01Travis McElroy?

  Still, Squarespace is not a brick and mortar store where you buy websites. That is charming and cute. It may be a good Super Bowl ad, but it's not this. This is you taking control of your future by making a website with the great tools that Squarespace gives you. Cutting edge design? They got it. Yeah. You want to sell stuff? Sure. You can do that. Bring in your own photos, your products, your stories, your dreams, your wishes, your songs, your tales, your tall tales.

• 32:29Griffin McElroy?

  Hmm.

• 32:30Travis McElroy?

  Beans, magic beans. Sell them. Doesn't matter.

• 32:32Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 32:33Travis McElroy?

  Get started today. Unlock your potential with a Squarespace website that is fun to build. We've all done it and we, we enjoyed the process thoroughly. Head to Squarespace.com/MyBrother for a free trial. And when you're ready to launch, use offer code MYBROTHER to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain.

• 32:54Griffin McElroy?

  I need your guys' help on something. So I started playing Sonic the Hedgehog Dating Simulator 27.

• 33:01Travis McElroy?

  Okay.

• 33:02Griffin McElroy?

  And it is just too beefy for my rig, right? Like the graphics are so, some of the cutscenes are so high def and like, there's a whole morality decision-making matrix that my computer just isn't able to handle.

• 33:17Travis McElroy?

  And you just got that new, yeah, and you, you gotta, you need a smell card to even make that work properly.

• 33:23Griffin McElroy?

  Well, for the pheromones and for like, there's some sensual experiences that are purely scent-based that I'm just not getting the most out of. And I don't know what to do. My old computer is just not enough. The problem, Travis, how can you find a computer that can run that and also Alien Blaster Fuck X?

• 33:42Travis McElroy?

  Yeah, right?

• 33:43Griffin McElroy?

  Because that game has an entirely different set of requirements on our hardware side.

• 33:49Travis McElroy?

  Dell, Dell, Dell.

• 33:49Griffin McElroy?

  And, and, sorry, what's that, Justin?

• 33:50Travis McElroy?

  Sorry, Justin, I'm sorry.

• 33:51Griffin McElroy?

  Maybe.

• 33:52Travis McElroy?

  I wanted to say the word Alienware because it'd have been like

• 33:55Griffin McElroy?

  Dell, Dell, Alienware, Dell, Alienware.

• 33:57Travis McElroy?

  Dell, Dell, Alienware Dell. Now, I'm sorry, it's just been so long in the ad. I just wanted to like, but I got one more.

• 34:02Griffin McElroy?

  Fancy. Okay.

• 34:02Travis McElroy?

  I'm trying to play Mavis B. Ganty's fucking and I can't.

• 34:06Griffin McElroy?

  So it's probably not that, I don't think.

• 34:09Travis McElroy?

  Let me check.

• 34:09Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 34:10Travis McElroy?

  Yeah, I turned the dial down a little bit. Let me try again.

• 34:12Griffin McElroy?

  Okay.

• 34:12Travis McElroy?

  Alienware Dell Theater presents Travis Talking About Computers. Let's go.

• 34:19Griffin McElroy?

  Well, listen, listen, no, we're done. No more jokes. Alienware systems are built with the performance to handle everything you could possibly throw at it. Imaginary games like the ones we've listed, real ones, high power, cozy, lo-fi, whatever. With Nvidia GeForce RTX, it delivers powerful graphics that bring every world to life while optimizing battery life. So whether you're playing, creating, or jumping between both, everything runs the way it should. No interruptions, no slowing down. You don't have to adjust how you play. You just keep gaming your way. However that looks in the moment, be more Alien at Alienware.com/gameyourway.

• 34:55Griffin McElroy?

  I shouldn't have taken the lead on that because I'm like, Warby Parker's up next and you know, I'm like a freak for these guys.

• 35:00Travis McElroy?

  Hey, Griffin, I'll, I'll say, yep. Hey, Griffin, I really like the frames that you've been wearing. Uh, can you tell me where you got them?

• 35:10Griffin McElroy?

  Sure. These are Warby Parker frames. These are my work frames that I wear during the working day. Um, my wife, Rachel prepares, prefers my more tortoise shell, sort of a lower profile.

• 35:22Travis McElroy?

  For you, along with your lunch and dinner.

• 35:24Griffin McElroy?

  Sometimes when I'm driving, she will wipe them for me if she notices they're dirty. It's a very nice, it's a very

• 35:30Travis McElroy?

  Griffin just clears his throat and she

• 35:33Griffin McElroy?

  No, well, I stopped that. That's not true at all.

• 35:36Travis McElroy?

  To have multiple pairs of glasses?

• 35:39Griffin McElroy?

  Well, Justin, why, I, we've talked about this exclusively, like extensively off mic, off the air. You know, their prescription glasses start at just $95. So you can actually get quality and stylish frames at an affordable price.

• 35:51Travis McElroy?

  Warby Parker, Warby Parker, Warby Parker.

• 35:53Griffin McElroy?

  Warby Parker, Warby Parker, Warby Parker.

• 35:55Travis McElroy?

  Okay.

• 35:55Griffin McElroy?

  Um, yeah. I, I have mentioned this, you know, a couple of months ago, but I recently tried to leave the flock and see what, you know, what other glasses options there were out there in the world. And as it turns out, the answer is nothing good and all like really prohibitively expensive. Warby Parker frames look fucking great and they are super affordable.

• 36:17Travis McElroy?

  Incredible eyesight would start failing me. So I had an excuse to wear these beautiful beauties. That's how I, that's how great these look.

• 36:24Griffin McElroy?

  I gotta give props also to Warby Parker. I feel like they've been listening to my psyche feedback and having more extra wide frames in stock. I do appreciate that. I do have a head of a certain disgusting carriage and they cater to that and they enable that.

• 36:38Travis McElroy?

  Enables the work.

• 36:39Griffin McElroy?

  Enables. I appreciate them so, so much. Uh, right now, buy one pair of glasses and get 20% off any additional pairs at warbyparker.com/MyBrother. That's 20% off any additional pairs when you purchase one pair at W A R B Y Parker.com/MyBrother.

• 36:58Speaker 04

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• 37:11Speaker 05

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• 37:31Speaker 04

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• 37:52Speaker 05

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• 38:08Speaker 01

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• 38:37Griffin McElroy?

  No, it doesn't. If you are a woman our age or a man our age, or you know what? Any person of any age. I think you'll enjoy your podcast. Jackie and Lori Show on MaximumFun.org. Bye.

• 38:55Travis McElroy?

  Dun dun dun dun dun.

• 38:56Griffin McElroy?

  Oh, sick.

• 38:59Travis McElroy?

  Yeah, sorry. Something's kind of off today. Let me try again.

• 39:03Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 39:06Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 39:10Travis McElroy?

  Maybe try hitting it? I want to munch. No.

• 39:13Griffin McElroy?

  Squad, dude.

• 39:14Travis McElroy?

  Nah, it's not working. I need a little, I'm gonna need a little extra help, which is lucky for me because I've been arranged for a special Munch Squad correspondent, Jordan Keyes, to join us with us, to tell us about a special mascot that hasn't gotten their due. And Jordan shined a light on, I would say, maybe when he needed him the most. Please welcome to the show, Jordan Keyes. Welcome, Jordan. Welcome.

• 39:40Speaker 06

  Hello.

• 39:41Griffin McElroy?

  Hi, Jordan.

• 39:41Speaker 06

  Hi, Jordan. Hey, everybody.

• 39:42Griffin McElroy?

  Thanks for joining us in this podcast within a podcast.

• 39:45Speaker 06

  Yeah. Thank you so much for having me.

• 39:47Travis McElroy?

  Yeah, on this podcast within a podcast this year. This is a new one for us.

• 39:51Griffin McElroy?

  A lot of people get lost. A lot of people end up in just the podcast. If they don't make it through the Minotaur maze to the podcast within a podcast.

• 39:58Travis McElroy?

  Jordan, would you say that you are the world's preeminent scholar on this topic?

• 40:05Speaker 06

  I do think that myself and my friends probably have done more research on the mascot of, spoiler alert, CC's Pizza Buffet and, and Treats, more than anybody else has. I would, I would say that. Yes. There he is.

• 40:22Travis McElroy?

  Jordan, how, how did you meet CC Pizzini?

• 40:26Griffin McElroy?

  Oh, this is great. Yeah.

• 40:28Travis McElroy?

  Tell me about your first encounter with CC Pizzini, the inventor of CC's Pizza, who, it's so important that you know this because this to me is the number one thing about CC Pizzini is that he spells his name C period C period, not like the name of the restaurant that he invented.

• 40:49Griffin McElroy?

  No.

• 40:50Travis McElroy?

  Invented, by the way, another wild thing for a chain, a word we so rarely think of as attached to pizza franchises. That he invented a restaurant? He invented the chain that he did not name for himself.

• 41:03Speaker 06

  You know, they don't hand out a lot of restaurant patents, as far as I know, but I think they made an exception for CC Pizzini. Yeah, yeah. He did name it and he added the I's, I guess. I don't know. I don't know when that happened, but that, I guess that did come along later. But yeah, we, I met CC Pizzini when my friends and I started going to CC's on a weekly basis because my son, it was one of the few places that he would eat just food out.

• 41:39Speaker 06

  And if I wanted to hang out with my friends, that was a place where we could all meet and he would also eat the food without fighting or having an issue.

• 41:50Travis McElroy?

  Also, also a primo kids locale because so many restaurants are restaurants. And with kids, you really need something that feels more like a ranch or a corral or sort of like a pop-up bean tent on the open range, you know, that kids could just roam freely across.

• 42:07Speaker 06

  Yeah, it definitely sort of has to feel like a cross between a cafeteria and arcade and just a free range, just Wild West saloon scenario.

• 42:20Griffin McElroy?

  I'll tell you what kids also love is a non-imposing pizza mascot. Because you take a look at the Noid, forget about it. You take a look at the Little Caesar Caesar, no way, he's got a weapon. You take a look at Reggie Fissime, he's enormous. I need a tiny little guy who I, I as a child am actually much larger than.

• 42:41Travis McElroy?

  Now, yeah, the tininess though, I must disagree here, Griffin. Sorry, Jordan, but the tininess, sure. But he looks like the, like the evil twin of Jiminy Cricket. Like he would be on the other side of Pinocchio's shoulder going like, nah, burn it. I love you guys so much, but I would this, we will cover what CC Pizzini looks like. I would just love to hear how Jordan, like first encountered this CC Pizzini character.

• 43:08Speaker 06

  So, so here's the thing, guys. CC's, up until a certain point, for a couple of, for as many years as I had known CC's, the restaurant did not have a mascot. They had not revealed their inventor, as it were. And then.

• 43:24Griffin McElroy?

  They were saving it for a big inventor reveal at some point when they needed a boost.

• 43:29Speaker 06

  Yeah, they were like, we're doing so well for so long. We're just coasting for a while. And then at some point they were like, it's time. And this guy started popping up on the posters. Yeah, just sort of a, a sort of a circus pizza Wonka fellow.

• 43:46Griffin McElroy?

  Pretty good, yeah.

• 43:47Speaker 06

  And he was presenting the pizzas.

• 43:48Travis McElroy?

  Real Matt Berry energy, I gotta say, like a huge sort of Matt Berry vibe.

• 43:53Speaker 06

  Yes, very much Matt Berry, very what we do in the shadows. And, and so we, we looked it up. We, you know, we'd been going for a long time and then all of a sudden he's on all the promotional materials. He's everywhere. Almost, I, I started thinking it was a sort of Mandela effect, like I'd shifted into a timeline where CC had always been there. Because he was every, like one week, nothing, and then the next week, CC is everywhere.

• 44:19Griffin McElroy?

  Pizzini is everywhere, yeah.

• 44:21Speaker 06

  So we look him up.

• 44:22Travis McElroy?

  In your defense, it does say inventor. That's not something you just make up, right? That has to be, like, I guess you would have heard about it before they invented it.

• 44:31Griffin McElroy?

  You know?

• 44:32Speaker 06

  Yeah, no, it, it's so official. It's so official, historical, and it, it should be in the record, honestly.

• 44:39Travis McElroy?

  There is a bit of like, we've always been at war with Eurasia going on here a little bit, isn't it? Like, oh yeah, we've always been invented by CC Pizzini, a small dream finder, that's a figure.

• 44:48Speaker 06

  Yes, yes. And, and we've always been named after him and his name's always been slightly different from the name of our restaurant.

• 44:54Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah. You've been spelling it wrong, not us.

• 44:58Travis McElroy?

  Yeah, not us.

• 44:59Griffin McElroy?

  The founder of Papa John's is actually, his name is John Shatner.

• 45:04Speaker 06

  Yes, yes. And, and he, and, and that's just sort of a pizza thing is you change it a little bit.

• 45:10Griffin McElroy?

  And he's huge. He's way, he scares kids left, right and center.

• 45:14Speaker 06

  He's massive.

• 45:15Travis McElroy?

  What was a CC's, uh, CC's Pizza literally next to the Best Buy that Travis and I worked at for years? And I never heard of this guy. This, and in, and even though the CC's continue to operate in this area.

• 45:26Speaker 06

  You didn't hear him skidding around in the vents or anything?

• 45:28Travis McElroy?

  No, he was never around.

• 45:31Griffin McElroy?

  Pizzini.

• 45:33Speaker 06

  And I know we've been talking about him being tiny. Uh, we haven't really discussed the full dimensions of him. So I do want to like, we, we, we did some research because we were like, surely this, this is on us that we don't know who's, we've been coming here for, you know, years now. We don't know who this guy is. We look him up. Of course, his history's on the website.

• 45:53Travis McElroy?

  Sure.

• 45:54Speaker 06

  And I didn't, I didn't check when the page had been updated, but the page is there and.

• 45:58Griffin McElroy?

  Was there a seal that was broken as you entered the website, letting you know you were the first person to ever go to that website? Cause it feels likely.

• 46:06Travis McElroy?

  It was like the little strip on the toilet at the hotel.

• 46:09Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 46:09Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah, there was, I, I did notice there was that little HTML like widget in the corner like they used to have on the hot, the Angel Fire website.

• 46:17Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 46:18Speaker 06

  How many visitors? And it just clicked from zero to one.

• 46:23Travis McElroy?

  All the little like ones and zeros on the matrix code were like, oh, wait, everybody get to work. Hold on, wait.

• 46:28Griffin McElroy?

  Someone wants to know more about the inventor of CC's Pizza, CC Pizzini.

• 46:32Travis McElroy?

  What'd you discover there at the website, the official repository of information?

• 46:35Speaker 06

  So we found out that many years ago in a place called Little Italy, there was a man named Papa Pizzini. And he discovered in a basket on the doorstep of his pizza shop, a teeny tiny baby that he named Cosmo Caluccio Pizzini. Of course, he adopted this teeny tiny baby.

• 46:55Travis McElroy?

  Of course.

• 46:57Speaker 06

  And, uh, of course, now this baby grew up, but he only grew to be four inches tall.

• 47:05Travis McElroy?

  That's so little.

• 47:07Griffin McElroy?

  That's quite little. And it also makes you wonder about the dimensions of baby CC Pizzini.

• 47:12Travis McElroy?

  Horrifying. It's a baby bean, a baby bean that lives and can get eaten by the cat. I hate it.

• 47:18Speaker 06

  He surely saved him from a horrific fate. Cause even in the basket.

• 47:23Travis McElroy?

  Unimaginable, like a robin's egg being scattered across the concrete.

• 47:27Speaker 06

  Perhaps microscopic. We don't even know, like, what was going on in that basket at that time.

• 47:32Travis McElroy?

  So tiny. If I could step outside the, the, uh, kayfabe for a second.

• 47:38Speaker 06

  Proceed, proceed.

• 47:39Travis McElroy?

  CC's could have chosen anywhere but like a foot. That's still a little guy.

• 47:46Griffin McElroy?

  Foot and a half.

• 47:46Travis McElroy?

  Eight inches, still a little guy. They went for four inches, like smaller than a G.I. Joe. Super duper tiny. Yeah.

• 47:54Speaker 06

  And let me tell you, I, like, when you look at the, the commercials and you look at the rest of the materials, they're not sticking to this. There, there's absolutely no way that they know, that they're using a ruler. There's no consistency with the size. I, and, and I've done the research. I've looked, I've, I'm like that guy on TikTok who was like measuring people's door frames and stuff. There's no way this guy's consistently four inches. And I mean, as an inventor, maybe he is able to shift his size through scientific means. I don't know, but, um, I don't believe these claims whatsoever, uh, within, within the realm.

• 48:35Travis McElroy?

  That wasn't what prompted you to speak, uh, speak out about CC Pizzini though, was it, Jordan? Because I feel like, maybe not intentionally, but I feel like you've become something of a chronicler for the more mundane ways. The simple joys that AI has ruined for us, um, like inventing a movie listing, uh, genres. I just saw today, movie genres it was inventing. I know you were frustrated about the Buffalo Wild Wings trivia and it's, and it's degradation. Uh, and then, and then what, what, what happened to your, uh, your close friend CC?

• 49:06Speaker 06

  So, well, um, you know, uh, he's been portrayed by a lovely actor who I found out, uh, his name is Lee Russell. Um, a lovely actor from Chicago, uh, improviser, comic actor, great guy. And then.

• 49:21Griffin McElroy?

  Four inches, four inches tall? What's the height on him? Cause we could get to the bottom of this thing pretty quick.

• 49:25Speaker 06

  Look, I haven't met Lee. From what I can tell, compared to his microphone, he's a little bit bigger than four inches tall at least.

• 49:32Travis McElroy?

  Well, he would use a little microphone, Jordan. They wouldn't give a full-size microphone to a four-inch tall man.

• 49:39Speaker 06

  So fair.

• 49:39Travis McElroy?

  That was probably his first check.

• 49:43Travis McElroy?

  That tiny mic.

• 49:45Speaker 06

  He was, it was right in the middle of the pandemic and he, he bought, he purchased the full.

• 49:51Griffin McElroy?

  The full setup, baby. Yeah, yeah.

• 49:53Speaker 06

  Zoom, zoom audition rig with, complete with the SM seven B point five.

• 49:59Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 50:00Speaker 06

  Yeah. Uh, but they, uh, the social media account, one of my friends, Caitlin, a fellow Pazziniacs, sent, sent us a link. My friends started a group where we exchanged information and updates about, Cece Pizzini and Cece's in general and, um, sent us a link and it was, uh, a fully AI-generated story about Cece Pizzini.

• 50:30Griffin McElroy?

  And it was the, how could you tell? Did it have some of the hallmarks of artificial intelligence sort of all over?

• 50:34Speaker 06

  Yeah. Yeah. It was, it was, you know, it was three second sort of vignettes, sort of stitched together with very little narrative, just sort of ha ha. And then it would move on to the next thing. And, um, oh, and there was one where he was in the Nutter Butter Caves, uh, searching for new flavors for the Fudge Brownie, of course.

• 50:57Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 50:58Speaker 06

  And then the minute, they claimed that a miniature Nutter Butter was chasing him, but I know that a miniature Nutter Butter is about this big and he was smaller than the miniature Nutter Butter. So again.

• 51:07Griffin McElroy?

  That's bullshit. Yeah, no, that's bullshit. Another butter is not bigger than four inches. That's crazy.

• 51:12Speaker 06

  It's all over the place. So I know that, I know that AI was a foot and it was that classic sort of, I, I didn't check the number of fingers, but I know it can't have been, yeah, there we go.

• 51:24Travis McElroy?

  That's not, that's not my Pizzini.

• 51:27Speaker 06

  No, and it doesn't look likely. It, it's.

• 51:30Travis McElroy?

  No, the, the mustache is way off.

• 51:33Griffin McElroy?

  And you know what sucks is AI could never come up with Cece Pizzini. AI could never sort of organically dream up Cece Pizzini and for.

• 51:42Travis McElroy?

  Wouldn't have the strength of its conviction.

• 51:44Griffin McElroy?

  To get its grubby fingers all over this very human creation, I think is, is an insult.

• 51:51Travis McElroy?

  It also, the AI chose to make the Nutter Butter Cave pulsate in a way that I'm not comfortable with.

• 51:55Griffin McElroy?

  Hugely, hugely unpleasant. Yeah. Breathing, living.

• 51:59Speaker 06

  Yeah. Yes, exactly. To make the Nutter Butter Peanut Butter alive is haunting.

• 52:05Travis McElroy?

  No.

• 52:06Griffin McElroy?

  So did they just blow their whole ad budget on R and D for, like, did it take them $350,000 to say, like, maybe he should be kind of steampunk? And then they didn't have any money left over for commercials and stuff?

• 52:20Speaker 06

  Yeah. I think, well, I, I think one of my favorite parts about him is that he has a little pizza cutter weapon that is attached to his belt. And so I think maybe they spent a lot of, on, on his, like, accessorizing him.

• 52:32Griffin McElroy?

  That's interesting that you think it's a weapon. Can you speak on that? Why you think it's a, he would use it for combat and not pizza slicing? Cause that would be my instinct.

• 52:39Speaker 06

  I guess I just assumed since he's so small, he needs something to defend himself. But I get, that is, I am from Florida, so I guess I just.

• 52:47Travis McElroy?

  Like your claws and your teeth, like same as, I mean, he's got those tiny claws and tiny teeth.

• 52:52Speaker 06

  That's true. I, yeah. Cece does, is probably sharpening his fingernails to a point often.

• 52:59Travis McElroy?

  He's got to keep the borbulbs away from all this shit.

• 53:02Speaker 06

  Filing, filing his canines down.

• 53:04Travis McElroy?

  Can I speak on something that's really bothering me about this whole story?

• 53:07Speaker 06

  Please.

• 53:07Travis McElroy?

  Yeah, dude. Cece Pizzini was found as a teeny tiny baby and Papa Pizzini took care of him. And I can't imagine that that was easy. There must be some incredible challenges that come with raising a four inch tall human being. Don't breathe too deep for starters. And then Cece went, hey, Papa Pizzini, who owns a pizza store, fuck you. I've invented Cece's pizza. A different pizza store that's going to put your pizza store out of business.

• 53:36Griffin McElroy?

  That's a good point. Yeah.

• 53:37Travis McElroy?

  Okay.

• 53:38Speaker 06

  And, and I do want to point out, like, you, and you bring up a point, he's credited with inventing not only Cece's, but the first pizza buffet, period.

• 53:46Travis McElroy?

  Yeah. That's interesting too. Yeah. He invented that whole idea of the pizza buffet. He should have named it after his dad and called it PP's Pizza. Maybe Cece's was a nickname for his dad. Maybe that's why it's spelled wrong. It's because his family calls him Cece, C I C I. Um, so what was the reaction like when you decided to, uh, speak out on this, Jordan?

• 54:06Speaker 06

  Honestly, the grassroots swell of people coming to the defense of live action Cece Pizzini was genuinely inspiring. Uh, and stepping out of kayfabe, it was very, very exciting to see people like, care of, even in such a small way about people, like real people who need to make a living and the environmental impact of artificial intelligence, generative artificial intelligence and actors trying to make a living, creators trying to make a living and people, uh, really spoke out. They, you

• 54:47Speaker 06

  know, were, some of them maybe a little bit more vehemently than I would have, uh, through the anonymity of the, I don't know if you guys have ever experienced this, but sometimes.

• 54:57Travis McElroy?

  Well, once or twice.

• 54:59Griffin McElroy?

  We're trying to find the middle ground still.

• 55:01Travis McElroy?

  The dogs of war would just, uh, you could bring the dogs of war back on inside for a bit. Nestled by the fire, dogs of war. Sit, boys. Has it boys? Get all boy.

• 55:10Speaker 06

  People sharpening their little pizza cutters for, for combat, you know?

• 55:15Travis McElroy?

  Let's roll out.

• 55:17Speaker 06

  But yes.

• 55:18Travis McElroy?

  Well, does Cece, does the eye of Cece's turn towards you? Do they, do they notice your disruption?

• 55:23Speaker 06

  They did. Uh, they left a comment. They said, uh, basically they were like, you know, uh, the people have spoken. We realize that AI isn't for everybody, which is a little bit of a centrist take. Some people weren't happy with that. Uh, Cece stands for centrist. Uh, maybe.

• 55:41Travis McElroy?

  You're telling me Cece's Pizza didn't take a stand?

• 55:45Speaker 06

  Yeah. They didn't really take a hard leftist, left wing stance, which is crazy, I think. Um, for a Kansas City based pizza chain. Uh, but, um, they, they did say, we are not going to use AI for our social media posts anymore, which I think for a, uh, corporation is probably the strongest stance we're ever going to get out of them.

• 56:08Travis McElroy?

  Jordan, I would say credit to you, my friend. If everybody did that for all the corporations, we'd be sitting pretty, man. Like you, you got Cece's Pizza. Honestly, for, I think that's pretty solid. Like you handled an entire chain. That's pretty good.

• 56:21Speaker 06

  You know what? I've, like, I do have a journalism degree that I, that has lain dormant for about a decade and for the, for it to have done even this very small thing. I'm like, okay, all of that student debt, maybe, maybe a little bit worth it. And, um, yeah, so they, they, uh, have not, uh, they are not using AI on their social media anymore. And, um, they, you know, have committed to that. And so a lot, and they're pretty happy because a lot of people are like, hey, great job. You know, a smaller minority are also like, hey, now you need to do this and this and this, which, you know, that's, that's the internet.

• 57:02Speaker 06

  And it's fair. And it, you know, if people have other qualms, that's fair. That's what they need to speak on. But like I, it's, it's been, you know, I feel like it's been a good outcome for everybody.

• 57:14Travis McElroy?

  Yeah. Jordan, I want to say a big thank you for standing up for the little guy.

• 57:19Griffin McElroy?

  That's awesome. Yeah. He is.

• 57:20Travis McElroy?

  Oh, that's really good draft. Dude, that's so good.

• 57:24Griffin McElroy?

  Have you used your, have you used your journalism degree at all to check in on Joe Croce and Mike Cole, who founded Cece's Pizza in 1985? And just to check and see if they're feeling particularly disenfranchised by this four inch high little dream, dream boy.

• 57:44Travis McElroy?

  Oh yeah. Like the real actual.

• 57:45Griffin McElroy?

  The actual inventors of Cece's.

• 57:47Travis McElroy?

  Well, they're the founders.

• 57:49Griffin McElroy?

  Um, I guess I don't know what the distinction is.

• 57:52Travis McElroy?

  They found the buffet that he invented.

• 57:55Griffin McElroy?

  They founded Cece Pizzini.

• 57:57Travis McElroy?

  They found the very small buffet he had made and they said, whoa, you gotta do this way bigger, pal. No one's going to be able to eat this.

• 58:05Speaker 06

  They're like, hey, man, we, we see what you've invented.

• 58:08Travis McElroy?

  We love it. Love the vision.

• 58:10Speaker 06

  We found it. Now let's get this, let's scale this up. Um, no, I haven't spoken to them. Uh, I, this is, uh, I, I do want to drop this, uh, sort of exclusive on, on the podcast here. They have reached out and I'm hope, I will be interviewing the president of Cece's and their creative director very soon. Um, so I'm, I'm hoping to, uh, uh, maybe get, get a little bit more information on how everybody's feeling about Cece at this point and, uh, see what's maybe is next for him. I also might want to check and see, there are some accusations that you alluded to in the comments that he's very close to Dream Finder and.

• 58:53Griffin McElroy?

  He's extraordinarily close to him. He looks like Dream Finder.

• 58:56Travis McElroy?

  He looks like Dream Finder, but that's okay. That's an inspiration and they're, they're not doing anything with him anymore. Yeah.

• 59:02Speaker 06

  Two guys can wear hats and have a beard. I know that, but we are, we are going to try to, we are going to try to hold their feet to the fire and figure out what's different. And, um, and maybe if there was some inspiration there.

• 59:12Travis McElroy?

  Jordan, what part of you, is there a part of you that at this meeting, you're hoping they'll do like that thing that they do sometimes on like talk shows and stuff with like John Cena, where they get like a fan of John Cena who's like, oh, talking to a movie poster and they're like, oh, I'm a big fan. Then John Cena smashes through and he's there.

• 59:32Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 59:33Speaker 06

  Honestly, that, that would be everything. That would be, that would be, I would, I might just hang it up. I might just like pin that post at the top of my social media account and just be like.

• 59:45Travis McElroy?

  I'm so excited, Jordan. Look in your pocket right now. We brought Cece's Pizzini into the show.

• 59:51Griffin McElroy?

  Oh, you goose him up.

• 59:55Speaker 06

  Oh no. He tried to cut his way out with his little pizza cutter, but.

• 59:59Griffin McElroy?

  We told him it wasn't a weapon. Jordan, how can people, how can people find your exciting work? If they want to follow more of your, uh, uh, exciting thoughts?

• 1:00:10Speaker 06

  If you want to find me on pretty much anything, it's at its keys, I T S K E Y E S, or just look up Jordan Keyes, J O R D A N K E Y E S. That's probably the best way to find me. I'm on Instagram, Tik Tok, YouTube and Patreon. Uh, find me on any of those places and I'll be making songs and doing long rants about the different ways that, uh, AI and the general shitification of technology is, uh, slightly ruining my life.

• 1:00:49Travis McElroy?

  All right, Jordan, thank you so much. Appreciate you being here and, uh, keep up the good work.

• 1:00:54Speaker 06

  Thanks so much, guys.

• 1:00:55Griffin McElroy?

  Thank you.

• 1:00:57Travis McElroy?

  Hey, can we do one more question? Yes. I recently crocheted a realistic sword for my brother to take to the Renaissance Fair. We go in group with our sister and my partner, and I've crocheted other Renaissance weapons for them and myself. However, his rapier is the most impressive thing that I made. How do I get people to notice my brother's cool sword? Friends, if I could just tell you, I'm looking at a picture right now, and you may be thinking like crocheted rapier, but like, You're thinking like, oh, it looks like a toy, like a floppy scarf, maybe. It kicks ass. Yeah.

• 1:01:30Griffin McElroy?

  It looks so fucking cool.

• 1:01:32Travis McElroy?

  So cool. Anyway, uh. How'd you do that? It's incredible. How do I get people to notice my brother's cool sword? How do I get credit without looking like an overbearing big sister? I spent five hours on it and I'm really proud of it, but I don't want it to look like I'm bragging. I could really use your help on how smoothly to show off my craftsmanship. That's from Crocheted Cleric in Massachusetts. P.S. If it matters at all, I'm the oldest, he's the youngest, and my sister is in the middle.

• 1:01:58Griffin McElroy?

  That helps. That's actually good shit. That's good deeds.

• 1:02:04Griffin McElroy?

  A lot of this is gonna come down to your brother. Your brother is gonna have to be the hype man. He's gonna have to be the one. I think just doing lots of flourishes, he's gonna have to have it.

• 1:02:14Travis McElroy?

  Hear you, hear you. Look at what I have.

• 1:02:16Griffin McElroy?

  At all times, maybe just starting shit.

• 1:02:19Travis McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:20Griffin McElroy?

  Other people that have swords and like waving in their face. And be like, I'm gonna kill you. Probably not that, but.

• 1:02:28Travis McElroy?

  I'm, I'm gonna cozy you to death.

• 1:02:30Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:31Travis McElroy?

  You could also, I think that. I didn't think you were gonna say I'm gonna kill you.

• 1:02:33Griffin McElroy?

  No, don't say that.

• 1:02:34Travis McElroy?

  That's interesting. This is why there are three siblings. This is why you have a third sibling.

• 1:02:39Griffin McElroy?

  That's why you're most.

• 1:02:40Travis McElroy?

  Right? For circumstances like this, you did the work, your brother's carrying it around. You need that middle child energy to be like, do you see his sword? They made that, right? That's why you need a third, because the brother's carrying it. So I think there's a little weird if he's bragging about it. You made it. You don't want to brag about it. Hype, hype sibling who's like, yeah, did you see the sword? They made that.

• 1:03:06Griffin McElroy?

  Give them a little horn that they can use to be the town crier. You don't get enough of those at Ren Fairs. It's a role, it's a job that is, is not being staffed.

• 1:03:18Travis McElroy?

  I'm available, by the way. If anybody needs a town crier.

• 1:03:21Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:22Travis McElroy?

  I'm doing it most of the time anyways. Let me do it here. In our towns. Yeah. Travis is usually crying in a town somewhere. He might as well get paid for it. That's right.

• 1:03:33Griffin McElroy?

  This sword's so cool. I know we are supposed to make jokes.

• 1:03:36Travis McElroy?

  Do you think there's a dowel in it?

• 1:03:38Griffin McElroy?

  There's gotta be some rigid structure inside of it.

• 1:03:41Travis McElroy?

  If I could make one of the, you talk about five hours, like that's a long time. If I could make something this cool in five hours, that's all I'd do anymore.

• 1:03:47Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah, man, you wouldn't hear from us again.

• 1:03:49Travis McElroy?

  Honestly, you should probably get business cards ready, because I think the problem you're gonna have is people ask you for commissions.

• 1:03:55Griffin McElroy?

  Damn right.

• 1:03:56Travis McElroy?

  On these swords. Hey, can I buy one of these swords? Dang.

• 1:04:00Griffin McElroy?

  I think the thing that could help is if the rest of his kit is also crocheted.

• 1:04:05Travis McElroy?

  That's what I was gonna say. I just thought of that too.

• 1:04:07Griffin McElroy?

  Crocheted hat, crocheted armor, crocheted tunic, crocheted.

• 1:04:10Travis McElroy?

  It's a theme.

• 1:04:11Griffin McElroy?

  Crotch cut, crotch guard. That's crochet.

• 1:04:14Travis McElroy?

  You look like a, you look like a starting guy. You look like a starting guy in an open world RPG. I've got the string armor, the string pants, and the string sword are ready to go. I've got these shoes without soles on them. This is good. I got a rusty sword that this guy was gonna throw away, but gave to me and said, because I guess he wants me to die. Um, yeah, I'm ready.

• 1:04:38Travis McElroy?

  My parents use a crocheted condom, so that's what happened with me.

• 1:04:41Griffin McElroy?

  Gross. Justin, gross.

• 1:04:43Travis McElroy?

  Gross in so many ways.

• 1:04:45Griffin McElroy?

  Gross. Doesn't make any sense. And also didn't have anything to do with anything. That was a real Reach for the Stars comment, dude.

• 1:04:50Travis McElroy?

  Yeah. What do you mean? I'm not familiar, Griff. Oh.

• 1:04:55Travis McElroy?

  Oh, it's that new song from Pitbull. Do you know what I think about it?

• 1:05:01Griffin McElroy?

  Extensively.

• 1:05:02Travis McElroy?

  Would you like me to share my thoughts on the new Pitbull song?

• 1:05:05Griffin McElroy?

  I think we're, I think it's covered.

• 1:05:08Travis McElroy?

  Hey, thank you so much for listening to our podcast. I hope you have enjoyed it. We appreciate you. Thank you to Jordan Keyes. Uh, I hope you'll go follow Jordan. I really appreciate him, uh, coming on the show. And, uh, thank you to him and the other Pazziniacs for your, your important work. And if there's any other, you know, CCs related business, we'll be sure to bring it to you.

• 1:05:26Griffin McElroy?

  We got some merch over in the McElroy merch store for the month of October. We got the Super McElroy Brothers logo pin. Uh, we got the Don't Talk to My Brother Ever Again hat. Uh, 10% of all merch proceeds this month will also be donated to the Center for Reproductive Rights. There's a bunch of other stuff on there too. If you like any of the shit that we make, you'll find something over there for you to wear or put in your house or car or something. McElroymerch.com.

• 1:05:49Travis McElroy?

  Also, we have a YouTube channel that you've probably heard us talk about before, or maybe you're already a subscriber to the McElroy family YouTube. We've added a membership, uh, feature to it where we will be posting the full videos of us recording the podcasts every week. Uh, those are gonna go up there just a few days after the recording itself. And, uh, we're also going to be posting videos like Technically Competent and Monster Factory and the other videos like that. Those are gonna go in there a few days early, and, uh, it's a nice way to support us if you want to do that. It is $5 a month. You can go check that out. Apparently, if you try to do it through your phone, like iOS tries to charge you extra, so do it.

• 1:06:28Griffin McElroy?

  Don't do that.

• 1:06:29Travis McElroy?

  Yeah, do it on your computer. Go check that out. It, I think you'll like it.

• 1:06:33Griffin McElroy?

  Uh, thank you to Montane for the use of our theme song, My Life is Better With You. Uh, it's a club banger. It's 100 million, billion, billion times better than Reach for the Stars by Kiss and Pitbull. Um, and I just really appreciate getting to use it.

• 1:06:47Travis McElroy?

  I have these grippers, um, because I, I hold pencils and pens too tightly, and it puts a divot in my finger. So I got these grippers to put around them.

• 1:06:58Griffin McElroy?

  You're just gonna throw like six of them as hard as you can at the wall?

• 1:07:01Travis McElroy?

  I've got these bad boys.

• 1:07:02Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah, throw five grippers. I'd love to hear the sound of five grippers. Yeah.

• 1:07:10Griffin McElroy?

  That was cool. They really bounced and landed in really interesting ways.

• 1:07:13Travis McElroy?

  I probably dropped my microphone halfway through.

• 1:07:15Griffin McElroy?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:07:16Travis McElroy?

  My name is Justin McElroy. I'm Travis McElroy.

• 1:07:19Griffin McElroy?

  I'm Griffin McElroy.

• 1:07:20Travis McElroy?

  This has been my brother, my brother, me, kiss your dad, square on the lips.

• 1:07:54Speaker 01

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