Behind the Scenes Minis: Parks and Roads

Tracy talks about her experiences with the Blue Ridge Parkway growing up, including her mixed feelings about it. Holly talks about the theft of the Mona Lisa. See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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• 3:06Holly Frey?

  Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production of iHeart Radio.

• 3:16Tracy V. Wilson?

  Happy Friday. I'm Tracy V. Wilson.

• 3:18Holly Frey?

  And I'm Holly Frey.

• 3:20Tracy V. Wilson?

  This week, we talked about Skyline Drive and Shenandoah National Park and the Blue Ridge Parkway.

• 3:25Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 3:26Tracy V. Wilson?

  All of those things. So I grew up in northwest North Carolina. I consequently have spent a lot of time on the Parkway in my life. I would say I have probably driven the whole of the North Carolina section, some of the Virginia section. I lived in an area where you could drive approximately north by a couple of different routes and get to the Parkway in Virginia, even though I grew up in North Carolina. And so that was kind of a thing to do. And then at various points, I have lived in western North Carolina, spent a lot of time on the Parkway. I think

• 4:04Tracy V. Wilson?

  I have only been on Skyline Drive once, on a trip to Virginia some years ago.

• 4:13Holly Frey?

  I think I have only been on a tiny part of the Parkway when we were driving to your wedding.

• 4:18Tracy V. Wilson?

  Oh, really?

• 4:19Holly Frey?

  Yeah. I haven't been on either of these.

• 4:23Tracy V. Wilson?

  I'm imagining which way you would have gone that would have taken you onto the parkway. But that's just like my mental map.

• 4:30Holly Frey?

  Well, I will say, I don't know if you remember, and I don't even remember if we told you.

• 4:34Tracy V. Wilson?

  Oh, no.

• 4:35Holly Frey?

  Well, it wasn't important, but I didn't want to fret you in any way. Um, as we were driving, I can't remember if it was that we, as we were driving there or back. We took a weird detour because we were following a dog.

• 4:49Tracy V. Wilson?

  Okay.

• 4:50Holly Frey?

  And we like would lose track of it and try to find it again. And eventually we just lost track of the dog completely.

• 4:56Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 4:57Holly Frey?

  I must have been on the way home because I can't imagine I would have been like, especially because we were driving your wedding dress to you. That I would have been like, let's keep following this dog wherever it may lead us. We got to, I mean, I would want to rescue the dog. So I don't remember, but I do remember being in a weird place and being like, oh, we went a long way trying to.

• 5:17Tracy V. Wilson?

  Oh, wow.

• 5:18Holly Frey?

  So I think that was what happened with that.

• 5:20Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 5:21Holly Frey?

  Think. But I, I remember having a moment of, oh, we're on the thing. Not for very long. I mean, like for a very short period of time.

• 5:28Tracy V. Wilson?

  Sure. Yeah. Yeah.

• 5:30Holly Frey?

  Yeah, I don't remember much of it. Haven't driven through that area very much.

• 5:34Tracy V. Wilson?

  When I was living in the Atlanta area, there was one time that I had gone on a little like vacation long weekend kind of thing to Asheville. And I just didn't want to go home yet. When it was time to go home. Um, and so I made the drive home be just the, a very long out of the way route where I was on the parkway for a really long time. And then dropped off of it and like went through the back roads through the northern, like North Georgia to get back home. Stopped at everywhere that was selling local honey.

• 6:13Holly Frey?

  Yum.

• 6:13Tracy V. Wilson?

  Had a collection of unusual honeys by the time I got home.

• 6:19Tracy V. Wilson?

  I have a great fondness for the Blue Ridge Parkway and I have also had mixed feelings about it since my childhood, like from going up there with my mom, kind of being like, this is a beautiful drive. This is really pretty. Why is there a road here? Did we build a road here just to drive on? Basically, yes.

• 6:39Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 6:40Tracy V. Wilson?

  And I would say that my various layers of mixed feelings about all of these things just got more complex, more layers of mixed feelings.

• 6:49Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 6:50Tracy V. Wilson?

  Because it is beautiful. The whole area around the Parkway is beautiful. A lot of it is currently hurricane devastated, but still beautiful. Something that I've sort of come to appreciate more recently is that I like the idea of everyone having access to nature. And I think that like beautiful mountain views, views should not be reserved only for people that have the ability to hike long distances.

• 7:17Holly Frey?

  Right.

• 7:17Tracy V. Wilson?

  That kind of stuff. So, uh, I read a lot of stuff for these episodes. Um, one of the things that I read was the proceedings of a conference that had been held for the 50th anniversary of the Parkway. To be clear, the Parkway was not done yet when they had this 50th anniversary conference, uh, because it was starting with like when it was authorized and it took more than 50 years to get done. Um, so there was a, a paper that was by James F. Shepard called Land Use Attitudes of Rural Residents. And, uh, here's a quote, quote,

• 7:57Tracy V. Wilson?

  "To obtain the attitudes of rural residents regarding land use, I have conducted ethnographic interviews. All the interviews were tape recorded. Five basic groups of residents were found in Grayson County. First, the residents were divided into native or non-native categories." I will take a moment to say, I think native or non-native in this context is the people who were born and grow up, grew up there versus people who moved into the area. I, I-

• 8:25Holly Frey?

  Gotcha. Not suggesting indigenous.

• 8:28Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah. I don't think this means indigenous or non-indigenous. Uh, from these two categories, residents could fall into one of three subcategories. One, retirees or summer home resident. Two, counterculturalist.

• 8:44Tracy V. Wilson?

  Three movers and shakers. And I was like, wow, I had never really thought about what three categories could I sort people into for areas like the Blue Ridge Mountains around the parkway. But boy, does that really make sense to me.

• 9:05Tracy V. Wilson?

  These three broad categories. I also read a couple of very deeply frustrating articles about the process of removing people from their land for Shenandoah National Park's establishment. Because they made it sound like this was an unprecedented thing in the region. And I'm like, okay. We're talking about a place that is named Shenandoah, which is generally agreed as coming from an indigenous language, but we're not actually sure which language or which specific word it's a reference to. Because of all the forced removal and displacement and genocide that had already happened in

• 9:49Tracy V. Wilson?

  earlier eras before people were again forcibly removed from Shenandoah for the park. I found that very frustrating.

• 9:57Holly Frey?

  Yeah. I fixated on something very silly in this second episode.

• 10:03Tracy V. Wilson?

  I'm gonna let you tell everybody, because you told me and I was like, I thought it was funny. Oh, it's the same thing that we talked about. I don't know, let's see. Tell me.

• 10:09Holly Frey?

  No.

• 10:10Tracy V. Wilson?

  Tell me what you fixated on.

• 10:11Holly Frey?

  The guy talking about taking a knife to the Mona Lisa.

• 10:14Tracy V. Wilson?

  Okay.

• 10:16Holly Frey?

  Here's why that was funny to me.

• 10:18Tracy V. Wilson?

  Okay.

• 10:18Holly Frey?

  This conversation was happening in the 1930s. If it had happened 40 years earlier, no one would have referenced the Mona Lisa.

• 10:27Tracy V. Wilson?

  Oh, yeah.

• 10:28Holly Frey?

  Because no one knew anything about it until it got stolen in 1911.

• 10:32Tracy V. Wilson?

  That's so funny.

• 10:32Holly Frey?

  And it just made me laugh so hard. Because, you know, even if you look at old news reports about the theft, some of them feature the wrong piece of art. Like, nobody knew what the Mona Lisa was. And so... Because I really like art history and that theft in particular is fascinating to me because of how it shaped global views of art history. It's like you see in a very short, less than three decades, it had become such an obvious touchstone to people that it was, it had been elevated from completely unknown work to the apex of art

• 11:17Holly Frey?

  that you would never deface. And I'm fascinated by that. Anyway, mention of the Mona Lisa. What was the thing that you thought?

• 11:24Tracy V. Wilson?

  So I thought you were gonna say something. So normally when we do these behind the scenes episodes, we record the episode and then we record the behind the scenes.

• 11:33Tracy V. Wilson?

  And since the Skyline Drive episode and the Blue Ridge Parkway episode were sort of researched and written in tandem, we recorded the Skyline Drive one, which was finished. And then I finished the Blue Ridge Parkway one and we recorded that the next week. And now here we are, recording the behind the scenes for both of them together. But you and I had a conversation after recording the Skyline Drive one about statements that people were making about a proposed skyline drive through Shenandoah that would be like an unparalleled scenic.

• 12:08Holly Frey?

  Oh, yeah.

• 12:11Tracy V. Wilson?

  And you found that very amusing.

• 12:15Holly Frey?

  Not that it's not beautiful, but anytime people get real superlative about something like that, I think I said something like, brother, have you not been to Italy? Like when you, when you drive along Italy and you could see, you know, the mountains where the Carrera marble comes from, it's a pretty astonishing view.

• 12:38Tracy V. Wilson?

  Right.

• 12:38Holly Frey?

  And lots of places have views equally astonishing and beautiful. So it's like when they're like unparalleled, I'm like, I mean, yes, but like, are you sure you want to go out on a limb like that?

• 12:51Tracy V. Wilson?

  I think some of the people who made statements like that, like there was a context of specifically building a road in order for it to be a scenic drive. Without a lot of other purpose. Um, and I was trying to figure out if there were other, like, there are definitely other, there are plenty of other parkways in the world. There are a ton of other parkways in the United States. Um, this, the Blue Ridge Parkway and Skyline Drive were built during an era of road building through and to connect to the national parks. And a lot of it had this, like, very similar, quote, "naturalistic" design for the road. Uh, and like, the road was supposed to be beautiful and the landscape the road was,

• 13:35Tracy V. Wilson?

  uh, traveling through was supposed to be beautiful and managed.

• 13:38Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 13:39Tracy V. Wilson?

  So some of the people at the time who were writing about this kind of thing made it sound like this was a completely new idea for the entire world, that nowhere in the world had anyone decided to just, uh, make a road in order to be a scenic road, uh, not just to have a road that's a hu- a highway for travel that happens to be scenic. Um, and I don't actually know the answer to that, um, whether this really, I, I would say probably not a completely unprecedented thing, but some of the people who were writing about these roads in the 1930s made it sound like it was, uh,

• 14:23Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 14:24Tracy V. Wilson?

  totally new idea. No one had ever thought to just build a scenic road for its scenic-ness as the primary purpose before.

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• 18:41Holly Frey?

  I also get in that like heady, overthinking space of building a scenic road for it to be scenic, but also having to do maintenance on it. I'm like, is that really scenic, or is it curated?

• 18:55Tracy V. Wilson?

  It's definitely curated.

• 18:56Holly Frey?

  Right. So like, I don't know. Like I said, it gets way too in my head and in the weeds about like, what is that then? What's a real scenic road? Is it, you know, barely paved? Is it?

• 19:07Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 19:08Holly Frey?

  Because you'll never see the truly untouched version of it.

• 19:13Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 19:14Holly Frey?

  Unless you are a person. This, this goes back to your discussion about how important it is that, you know, nature access be available to everyone. And clearly, everyone could not see those places if we did not put some sort of roadway through there.

• 19:30Tracy V. Wilson?

  Right.

• 19:31Holly Frey?

  Yeah, I just, I end up in the, I'm the snake that bites its own tail. I can't, I can't get out of this spiral.

• 19:37Tracy V. Wilson?

  All of these things are true. They are all interconnected together. I, I said at the, I think, I think I said in the, the Shenandoah episode that a lot of people that I talked to in and around the Asheville area were incredibly anxious for tourism to come back to pre-Haleen levels. I don't want to like minimize the fact that this, like this storm was horrifically destructive. There were a lot of whole towns and villages that were basically wiped off the map.

• 20:16Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 20:17Tracy V. Wilson?

  Like the entire, uh, the entire village just basically swept off of its foundations by floodwaters and the debris in the floodwaters. There are a lot of, uh, roads in the area that are closed to everything but local traffic. And in some cases, like you actually have to have a permit saying, yes, this is, like I live here.

• 20:39Holly Frey?

  Right.

• 20:39Tracy V. Wilson?

  To be able to go down that road. Um, so I intentionally did not try to get into any of those areas. I, I intentionally stayed like in the areas that have said, uh, we are open for business. Please come. And, uh, I don't know, I have nothing else to say for, to, about that really, except that like, if you've been wondering, is it okay to go to vacations on these places? Uh, the answer seems to be from the local people, yes, it's okay to go on vacation to these places. But like, don't go try to bully yourself into, uh, the areas that are still like lacking basic services, like where the roads are still destroyed, that kind of stuff.

• 21:21Holly Frey?

  Yeah. And I, I'm very glad you did these episodes because all of this does speak to the fact that the news cycle is so bananas that we can lose track of the things that take a long time to recover from.

• 21:32Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 21:32Holly Frey?

  Like there's no coverage of Halleen recovery going on.

• 21:36Tracy V. Wilson?

  Right.

• 21:37Holly Frey?

  In any major news outlets that I've seen in quite some time. And it, it's easy, I think, for people that are not immediately affected by it to forget that there are still people really, really. Struggling to try to get their feet back under them.

• 21:53Holly Frey?

  I don't know how we fix this, this problem because there is so much to take in constantly. But also, if you think I did not run to the Xerxes Society for invertebrate conservation, you're wrong.

• 22:08Tracy V. Wilson?

  So excited.

• 22:10Holly Frey?

  I have already been working a lot on my selection of plants for the yard this year. To make sure that, you know, we're, we're friendly to pollinators and other creatures. But they're full of good information there if anybody.

• 22:24Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 22:24Holly Frey?

  Doesn't, hasn't been there yet and hadn't heard of it until our listener mail this week. That mentioned it specifically because it's cool.

• 22:33Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 22:34Holly Frey?

  Yeah. I got a flashback as you were reading that listener letter to the time I had a very sad breakdown on a plane over a bee.

• 22:44Tracy V. Wilson?

  Aww.

• 22:44Holly Frey?

  It's just not that long ago. There was a bee in a plane during boarding. This is probably a year, a year and a half ago. And the people sitting near me lost their minds and freaked out. And had, were like, kill it. And I was trying to like, I wanted to collect it and put it outside again during boarding, boarding door not closed, people coming and going. And there was one woman that was just like, people are allergic. You could die. And I'm like, are you allergic? And like, it's a bee. It's fine. And I just, I literally ended up in tears because I was the only person that cared about the bee.

• 23:24Holly Frey?

  And it did not make it off of that plane, I'm sad to say. Some dude had to show what a protector he was. Anyway, sorry bee, it did not do enough for you that day. Anyway. Do what you can for your pollinators. We need them.

• 23:37Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 23:38Holly Frey?

  Without them.

• 23:38Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 23:39Holly Frey?

  We're not gonna eat.

• 23:43Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah, yeah. I don't know if I have anything else to, to say about any of these things. I will reiterate that I do love our national parks. I do not love the fact that, especially in the West, like,

• 23:59Tracy V. Wilson?

  the, the national parks exist because of displacement and genocide. And then in the East, also true, but like separated by more time Right. that had passed in the interim. Under the Biden administration, um, we had an indigenous secretary of the interior for the first time, an indigenous director of the National Park Service for the first time. Uh, and a lot of work was being done to try to, um, like work out co-management agreements with different indigenous nations. Right. To co-manage land that is their ancestral homeland. In some cases, to return land from the parks.

• 24:40Tracy V. Wilson?

  That didn't start with the Biden administration, but like that had been, uh, like specific intentional thing that had been undertaken under that administration. And I don't know what the status of any of that is at this point. Uh, in part because the fire hose of things about, uh, the national parks in particular has been focused on other stuff, uh, like reductions in force for the park workers and, uh, like opening up national forests to more logging and that kind of stuff. So my efforts to figure out like what the Trump administration's views are on that part.

• 25:24Tracy V. Wilson?

  I did not go read Project 2025 or whatever to find out if that said anything. But yeah, I hope.

• 25:35Tracy V. Wilson?

  Hope even the right word, that we don't make a bunch of big step backwards and all of that.

• 25:39Holly Frey?

  Me too. Fingers, toes, and little bee feet crossed.

• 25:44Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah, little bee feet. Uh, if you would like to send us a note about this, or any other podcast or history podcast at iHeartRadio.com, uh, we will be back tomorrow with a Saturday classic, something brand new on Monday. Whatever's happening on your weekends, uh, I hope it is as lovely as possible. If you're able to get out into some nature, if that's accessible to you, I hope you're able to do that. That always helps me take a little bit deeper breath than I can take when I am just in my house all the time. Uh, so we'll be back with the Saturday classic tomorrow, something brand new on Monday.

• 26:29Tracy V. Wilson?

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• 28:14Holly Frey?

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• 29:09Tracy V. Wilson?

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• 29:47Speaker 00

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