Diddy Verdict, Trump's Big Beautiful Bill, Israel Ceasefire & Musk's 3rd Party | PBD Podcast | Ep. 610

Patrick Bet‑David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick react to Diddy’s guilty verdict on two counts of transporting individuals for prostitution , the latest on Trump’s “Big, Beautiful Bill” as it moves to a House vote, and Trump’s threat to deport Zohran Mamdani amid his rising NYC surge. ------ 🎫 THE VAULT 2025 | BUY TWO GENERAL ADMISSION TICKETS, GET 1 FREE: https://bit.ly/3TemyhE 🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4jYg3Lh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4jYg3Lh 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A 📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7 📰 VTNEWS. AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3OExClZ 🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 1:09Speaker 02

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• 1:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so what happened? Is this me?

• 1:26Speaker 05

  Oh, you're...

• 1:26Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, we got a lot going on, guys. I got the...

• 1:28Speaker 05

  We like this song so much, we want to hear it twice.

• 1:30Patrick Bet-David?

  I have a plane right in front of me. Anyways, lot going on, okay? The best meme of the day yesterday was Nancy Pelosi making a phone call saying, "We gotta buy some baby oil stock because Diddy was acquitted." You know, with the other stuff and, you know, he got a little bit of trouble. And the lawyer on Cassie's side responded, his lawyer. There's protesting going on in the streets, outside, celebration with baby oil all over the place. Very weird stuff that's going on. Some stories with the big beautiful bill. We'll get into that. Trump says Israel agrees to conditions of 60-day ceasefire as proposal leads, heads to Hamas.

• 2:12Patrick Bet-David?

  And then Trump administration hauls some weapon shipments to Ukraine to put America's interests first. Tom's got some thoughts on that as well as Adam. Next thing we have CNN's Harry Enton says Trump is more beloved among Republicans than any other GOP president in modern times. Then in the big beautiful bill, people are asking what's in it. We'll talk about that. Three Republican senators voted against it. US Senate overwhelmingly rejects plan to stop states regulating AI. That is a very big story. The 10-year marker they put on there. It's almost like a patent law they put on there that some people are not supportive of. I have my own opinions on that as well. Maldonado on Trump's deportation

• 2:54Patrick Bet-David?

  threat. We want to accept this intimidation. There was comments being made. We'll react to that one as well. That's the guy that wants to be the mayor of New York City. Powell confirms that the Fed would have to cut by now were it not for terrorists. Meaning if the tariffs wasn't done by Trump, he would have cut the rates and he's obviously put the blame on Trump, which is one interesting way of doing it. Jay Powell signals openness to July US interest rate cut. Trans UPenn swimmer, if you remember Leah Thomas. Will. This guy will be stripped of his titles. They put her, I'm reading his. Yes. Titles after university bends the knee to Trump's administration. Good.

• 3:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Then there's another story that Tom has thoughts on. Trans inmate back in male prison years after allegedly raping female cellmate. Mystery surrounds the Jeffrey Epstein files after Bondi claims the 10,000 hours of videos, but they're saying, how come those videos weren't used when Ghislaine Maxwell was in court? Very interesting, right? Chinese operatives spend years spying on Navy bases in US, FBI alleges. Air Force, Space Force hits recruitment goal month ahead of schedule. California voters want more action on housing, Paul Feins, this is a political story. And California is running out of safe places to build homes

• 4:17Patrick Bet-David?

  due to fires. This is a Bloomberg story. New Jersey is becoming the next Hollywood, poised to soon become the top three film destination, according to NJEDA CEO.

• 4:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Stark first photos from inside Alligator Alcatraz. Reveal bleak digs for up to 5,000 migrants. Trump reunites with former political rival DeSantis at Alligator Alcatraz. Joy Reid on Alligator Alcatraz, she calls it concentration camp for brown people. Vinny, they're talking about people like us, brown people.

• 4:53Tom Ellsworth?

  And she's never been there.

• 4:55Speaker 05

  So offended.

• 4:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Sean Diddy Combs, verdict live updates, jury convicts Combs of two counts in sex trafficking scandal. We'll definitely cover that one. Iranian hacker threatened to leak 100 gigabytes of stolen Trump team emails. And there's a few things going back and forth with Iran. Satellite imagery captures activity at Iran's Fardel nuclear site after US strikes. And Iran suspends cooperation with UN Atomic Agency. There's something going on with Musk.

• 5:23Tom Ellsworth?

  That's kinda weird.

• 5:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, there's something going on with Musk trying to build a third party. And calling out Bannon saying he's gonna be going back to prison. Bunch of other comments that are being made. Tinder launches new biometric face scan verification. Adam's got a major update on that for us. Caitlin Clark's new shoes sell out within minutes. Reselling on secondary market for over double. Again, Adam's got a big update on Caitlin Clark shoes as well, since he was one of the first buyers. Del Monte Foods, the giant goods files for bankruptcy. Tom's got thoughts. Trump says Powell should resign immediately. And last but not least, trans athletes wins US cycling women's event as female opponent protests and speak out.

• 6:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny's got a lot to say about that. All right, before we get into it, couple things. Guys, you know, once a year, we host an event called the Vault Conference. If you're somebody that either runs a business... You're a married couple, husband and wife. Life's been kind of flatlining lately. There's not been too much, uh, uh, things that are growing in ways, business, personal, financial. And you kind of want to call a time out and get away and spend a four days with 3,000 other couples and nearly 12,000 people in the same room together to strategize the future of your life with your kids. Being intentional about it, I highly, highly recommend you attend a Vols Conference. It's the only conference you can go to where the attendees are comfortable talking about business,

• 6:54Patrick Bet-David?

  are comfortable talking about money, are comfortable talking about politics, are comfortable talking about family values, and no one cares. No one walks on eggshells. You go to some business conferences, "Oh, we can't talk about politics." We talk about everything. If that's appealing to you, do whatever you can to go to the Vols Conference. Here's a video, uh, I did, uh, with my, uh, patient. Here's a doctor sitting down as a therapist, sitting down with his patient, and guess who his patient is? Rob, go ahead and play the clip.

• 7:24Adam Sosnick?

  Mateo, who's my next patient?

• 7:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, this one's gonna be tough. Oh, I gotta take the jacket off for this one.

• 7:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so what's been happening lately?

• 7:34Speaker 05

  Oh, nothing positive, I'll tell you that, doc. Just, you know, work is crazy. My marriage is hanging on by a thread. I know we talked about that last time I was here. The kids are freaking screaming and yelling all the time. The business is bleeding cash. I can't breathe. So, what, like, what do I do?

• 7:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me ask you a question. When's the last time you and your wife sat down and actually mapped out your next five, 10, 15 moves? Personal life and your business life?

• 7:57Speaker 05

  Never. The only thing we've ever mapped out was our Disneyland trip, just like which rides to go on.

• 8:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Of course, that's one day, though. But I'm talking like five, 10, 15, 20 years from now. You guys have never done that?

• 8:06Speaker 05

  Never.

• 8:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you guys read books together? Do you, do you spend a lot of time reading lately or no?

• 8:11Speaker 05

  Oh, I don't know about her, but the last thing I read was the back of a shampoo bottle while I was in the bathroom. I know, but you should see the stuff that's in there.

• 8:16Patrick Bet-David?

  It's actually really interesting stuff, but I'm talking like life and business.

• 8:20Speaker 05

  No.

• 8:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Nothing?

• 8:21Speaker 05

  Nope.

• 8:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 8:22Speaker 05

  We don't have time.

• 8:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Does this sound familiar to you? Do you listen to anything he said and say, "That's a little bit of me"? When is the last time you and your wife took a time out, went away to a business conference to identify your next five, 10, 15 moves? If you've never done- That we host a conference once a year called the Vault Conference from September 8th to the 11th. If you just watched this, you laughed a little bit, you giggle, but you said, that's kind of me. Get registered. I look forward to seeing you and your spouse September 8th through the 11th at the Gaylord Orlando. All right. Well done, team. Yes, guys, go to thevaultconference.com. Go to thevaultconference.com. Get registered. Get yourself a ticket. If there's one thing I can tell you since 21 years old, I've gone to four to 10 business

• 9:07Patrick Bet-David?

  conferences every year purely to recreate myself. Again, go to thevaultconference.com. Get yourself and your spouse a ticket. Let's spend four days to get in Orlando, September 8th through the 11th. Cannot wait to see you there. All right, let's get right into it. What is in Donald Trump's giant tax cutting bill? Rob, I think you have a video on this. If you want to play this clip, go for it.

• 9:33Adam Sosnick?

  All right, America, let's talk one big, beautiful bill. We've heard you loud and clear. With a bill this big and this beautiful, it can be hard to understand exactly what's in it. So let's go through some of the most important pieces of the bill. This bill modernizes and overhauls our nation's air traffic control system so you feel safer when you are flying. It gives a 15% tax cut to working families like yours, amounting to $5,000 per year. This bill increases the child tax credit for more than 40 million American families, ends taxes on tips, cuts taxes for overtime workers like law enforcement officers, slashes

• 10:17Adam Sosnick?

  taxes on social security for our seniors, and that's just the start. We must pass this big, beautiful bill and usher in a new golden age for all Americans.

• 10:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so that's that. President Trump's four and a half trillion dollar tax bill passed by the Senate Tuesday with a tie-breaking vote by Vice President J.D. Vance, which extends the 2017 tax cuts and eliminates taxes on tips overtime. But the CBO estimates it'll add $3.3 trillion to the national debt by 2034. With the Committee for Reasonable Federal Budget projecting a 130% debt to GDP ratio, the bill criticized for its regressive impact reduces after-tax incomes by 2.3% or $560 for the poorest, 20% while increasing incomes by 2.1% or $32,000 for the top 1%. Tom, what do you see in this bill that just passed?

• 11:12Tom Ellsworth?

  So I see a couple of things here, and I like to get past the numbers in the headlines and get to what is really the numbers in the wallets. So, they were saying, "Oh, it's gonna reduce after-tax income by 2.3% or $560 for the poorest." Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. $560 a year is $47, $46 a month, okay? So that's $10 a week. Okay, well, a poor person, you know, $10 is $10, but it's not like you're taking $3,000, $4,000 off of it, number one. Number two, the president is betting on growth and putting things in. So let me explain how this works. If you've ever been working for a business, it could be a small business or it could be a big business, around November, Pat, you do this. You tell people to get together, "Hey, we need to do the budgets for next year."

• 11:57Tom Ellsworth?

  And it's not a wish list, it's a fact-based analysis of what do you need in your department to do this, this, and this so that we can meet our 15% growth? Okay, fine. Well, guess what? The president is betting he's gonna get growth. Well, same way that a business owner would say, "Okay, Vinny, I'll let you hire one more person in your department because we're hiring it assuming we're gonna get about 15% growth next year, so we're gonna be able to cover that, and that person is gonna help us with that growth." It's a very simple thing. So the president is betting on growth, that's what's in here, and he's keeping his promise to eliminate taxes and tips on overtime. That will help, you know, people working in the hospitality industry.

• 12:42Tom Ellsworth?

  He's extending the tax cuts. He's keeping that promise. And how can, I don't understand how the mainstream media can say, "Oh, we're so worried about Newark Airport. It's so unsafe. We're limiting flights." Do you remember Easter weekend, Pat? In Newark Airport? Remember they were saying, "Oh, my gosh, you may have to stop half of Newark Airport. Everybody's traveling Good Friday." Especially here in the Northeast where there's so many Catholic people. "Oh, my gosh, air traffic control, what a problem." And now he comes out, "One of the things in the big, beautiful bill is to overhaul air traffic control." Suddenly, he's spending us into the poorhouse, right? Wrong. Look, I understand the concerns people have about the spending, especially the healthcare spending.

• 13:23Tom Ellsworth?

  But you have to remember, what's in, he's talking about the Medicare cuts, but the Medicaid cuts, but the Medicaid restrictions comes handcuffed to, "You gotta work 20 hours a week." Remember that? We talked about this almost immediately after the inauguration, when he said, "Hey, Medicaid changes are gonna come with a requirement to work a little bit." And we all talked about it on this podcast and said, "Well, wait a minute. That's not 40 hours a week, it's not 50 hours a week. Can you figure out how to work 10 hours a week, 40 hours a month? And then we'll figure out something on Medicaid?" So I see both sides of it. If the growth doesn't come true, and the Medicaid spending just happens, and they're raising the debt ceiling, then yes, it's gonna add to debt.

• 14:06Tom Ellsworth?

  But the president is saying, just like he said on the tariffs, "You gotta trust me." And now we've got tens of billions of dollars of tariff revenue? He's betting on growth.

• 14:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Here's a clip I want you to watch that has to do with the bill. Go for it, Rob.

• 14:18Adam Sosnick?

  What we are saying is that if you are able-bodied and working age, you need to be either working or seeking work in order to receive Medicaid. That is common sense. In other words, if you're a 32-year-old guy, you cannot sit on your couch and smoke weed all day and expect taxpayers to fit your Medicaid bills. That's wrong. That's something the majority of Americans agree with Republicans on. We're also saying that if you're an illegal alien, and you shouldn't be in this country to begin with, you should be deported, you shouldn't be getting taxpayer-subsidized Medicaid. That's what we're looking at. We're looking at expanding eligibility checks, so that whenever somebody shouldn't be on Medicaid anymore, that we take them off. These are the common sense solutions that we're putting into this big, beautiful bill.

• 15:03Adam Sosnick?

  And these are the things that Democrats are against.

• 15:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Very common sense, Benny, your thoughts on this?

• 15:08Speaker 05

  Yeah, well, I mean, listen, anytime the Democrats are on MSNBC, CNN, and they're calling it the big bad bill, that's what they're saying, and they want people to be melting all down over it, they want the, you know, media to be going nuts, because they're, you know, all I kept saying on, seeing on social media was cutting Medicaid, Tom, cutting Medicaid.

• 15:26Tom Ellsworth?

  No more free stuff.

• 15:27Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's weird, because, and by the way, these are the three cuts, so one, like he said, illegal immigrants don't get free healthcare on our dime, that's it, only citizens qualified, guess what, that should already be the rule, alright, and if you're mad about this, you're either stupid, or you're lying to yourself. Number two, it eliminates taxpayer bailouts from unpaid hospital bills, aka bad debt, so right now, if someone with Medicaid skips out on their bill, guess what we have to do as American citizens, we pay 65% of it, that means hospitals jack up the prices on purpose, knowing that we, the taxpayer, are gonna foot the tab. And then the cut three, the third cut that the Democrats are losing their mind, are saying, excuse me, hospitals can't change Medicare, or Medicaid can't charge them more than they charge private insurance or cash customers, simple and fair, which saves us $148 billion,

• 16:12Speaker 05

  and just from those three, guess how much we're saving a year, $200 billion, okay? But the Democrats are all emotional, and they keep feeding us all these headlines, you know what it is too, Tom? It's the same thing that they did with the border bill, remember the border bill?

• 16:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 16:27Speaker 05

  They're like, we'll close the border, but the Republicans are stopping us, yeah, because you guys snuck in 60 billion to Ukraine, 14 billion to Israel, and 4 billion to Taiwan, it's the, the big beautiful bill.

• 16:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, the Inflation Reduction Act, that was the War Increase Act and the Immigration Increase Act.

• 16:43Speaker 05

  Yeah, exactly, so the big beautiful bill, not the big bad bill, puts America first, and that's why they hate it. Anything that's helping us, Pat, the Democrats are gonna fight it, period.

• 16:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Benny, your thoughts?

• 16:53Adam Sosnick?

  So, I feel like we lose a lot of sight during these bills, conversations, of one key fact, that the government will not save you, if you're relying on the bill, or what's gonna happen, are they gonna pass this, gonna pass that, you're losing the big picture, which is, you gotta do it yourself. I don't know anybody that's rich, maybe with the asides Elon Musk and government subsidies, who's like, how'd you get rich, bro? Dude, the government got me, straight up, government, it's all that, Obama hooked me up, Bush hooked me up, then Trump, zero people who are successful give. Credit to the government. It comes down to four things. Work, earn, save, and invest. And if you do those four things, you're gonna be okay.

• 17:34Adam Sosnick?

  So, a lot of people are excited about the extension of the 2017 tax cuts that are gonna expire. Corporate tax rates, I believe, are gonna stay at 21%. That's great. PBD always tell that story about the Trump tax cuts in 2017, 2018. You gave, what was it, like bonuses for every year they were there, month they were there? Child tax credit, help families, no tax on tips, stop funding immigrants. And then, you know, critics will say, well, what about the Medicaid? What about this? What about that? If you're working and you're earning, you're gonna get taken care of. So, the biggest concern that I have and a lot of people have is, is this actually gonna add $3 trillion to the deficit or not?

• 18:16Adam Sosnick?

  I guess we'll see if dynamic growth happens or if we're actually gonna go deeper into debt.

• 18:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, and all of that is, time will tell, right? Time will tell on what's gonna happen with this bill here. The reality of it is this, this is the part where I'm not very comfortable with. One time, I was having a big debate with a guy, a very close friend of mine. The debate was, if the government is giving you any kind of entitlement programs, welfare, Section 8, whatever it is they're giving you as a handout, unemployment checks that they were given during Obama for almost 24 months,

• 18:51Patrick Bet-David?

  should the government have the right to drug test you? He says, no. So, really? No. Why not? Well, you can't drug test, that's America, it's free. I said, no, no. We're giving you free money from taxpayers, from workers. Workers are paying you the money. We almost have to replace the word taxpayers to the American people.

• 19:09Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 19:10Patrick Bet-David?

  We gotta stop saying the government's paying you. The government's paying you. No, no. The American people are paying you. So, American people, you got kids. If a kid after 18 years old lives in your house and does nothing for you in return, rent-free, no chores, doesn't clean the bed, you're either a terrible parent or your kid's a freeloader. No parent's gonna sit there and be okay with that. If you are, you're raising- Somebody that's gonna have those habits grow into wanting the government to take care of them and American people to take care of them. I am very comfortable with the 20 hours per week. I am very comfortable with any of that stuff. I wouldn't even add drug tests and all the other things to it. If you're not taking care of yourself and your life and your health, why should the American people pay you anything? Nothing.

• 19:55Patrick Bet-David?

  You make better decisions in your life. I mean, you make better decisions in your life. You know, you have a higher likelihood of good things happening to you. But Tom, I'm gonna give you the last word here on this topic before we do, because I feel like you want to say something.

• 20:05Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I say, and let's remember that Medicaid is a state problem. And the federal government is cleaning up the mess of the state. And let me give you one example. Our good friend Gavin Newsom. And I mean, I wish he could come and sit right here. I'd love for him to come sit right here and talk about this and say, look, dude, you took Medicaid in California and the first thing you did is you took the current budget, which couldn't be expanded because you only had so much money in the bucket. Then you said, more of you can get Medicaid. More of you that are just got here, you know, illegal aliens. You can get Medicaid. And then secretly, this he and the state assembly, remember they got together and they spent the money on other things? And then he went crying to the federal government. Oh, my, my, my California Medicaid bucket is empty. Well, of course it's empty.

• 20:50Tom Ellsworth?

  You said that more people could, could put their ladle in the bucket. And then you spent, then you drilled a hole in the bottle bucket and drained it off to use other things. I'd love to understand legislatively what was going on. I know he's trying to run the state, but I disagree with this. And I wish he would come on and talk about things like this. But the number one thing I think everybody needs to remember is Medicaid is a state problem that the government is having to clean up.

• 21:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me read one part of the bill that is causing some challenges for some people. And I'm kind of in agreement with them. U.S. Senate overwhelmingly rejects plan to stop states regulating AI. It's Financial Times. They voted 99 to 1 on Tuesday morning to reject a 10-year ban on states regulating AI models, removing the provisions from President Trump's big, beautiful bill, with Senator Marsha Blackburn stating, "It was an honor to lead this fight. Until Congress passes federal legislation like my No Fakes Act and the Kids Online Safety Act, we cannot remove those projections."

• 21:52Patrick Bet-David?

  And this is a proposal backed by lobbies from Amazon, Google, Microsoft, Meta, OpenAI. Sam Altman, Trump's AI team, David Sacks, and others aim to prevent inconsistent state rules, but faced by partisan opposition over concerns about stifling oversight of AI's social and economic impacts. Republican Senator Thom Tillis, the sole dissenter, planning to retire, had told the Financial Times, "The provision was necessary to keep the US the number-one country in the world for innovation." Tom, your thoughts on the story here?

• 22:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, so you basically, there's a couple of things here. If every state, you know, made a different test for the number of miles per gallon of a car, then that sticker on the window when you go to buy a car would be madness. California, you know what I mean? Like, if they all made different standards. So that's the argument the government is making. The argument that people like me are making for the states is, "Wait a minute. What about when DeSantis said, 'No, we're not going to do trans stuff in our schools, and we don't want a federal mandate on that. We know our people locally. No, I am not going to close all the beaches. I got people saying that UV is really good for killing bacteria and viruses, so why

• 23:08Tom Ellsworth?

  can't people be at the beaches in Florida during COVID? No, I'm not going to get behind that.'" That's the tension we have here. What worries me is the proposal was backed by lobbyists? That scares the hell out of me.

• 23:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Always.

• 23:20Tom Ellsworth?

  And then look who's lobbying: Amazon, Google, Microsoft, Meta, OpenAI. So guess what? If all of those are lobbying in the Senate, they only need to get 100 people together and get 51 of them to go their way. Makes sense?

• 23:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Got it.

• 23:32Tom Ellsworth?

  If it's in the hands of the states, all of those companies... have to work with fifty different states, fifty different governors, and they don't want that. And they're claiming, oh, it's gonna be like, like miles per gallon, the sticker on the car would be madness.

• 23:46Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I get what they're saying, and trust me, I get from their perspective, because it lowers the speed of growth and innovation. When we were in the Department of Insurance, we didn't just deal with the federal government on getting one license. We had to get a license in fifty states.

• 24:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Fifty little governments.

• 24:03Patrick Bet-David?

  And we dealt with every single one of the states, and trust me, was super annoying. So I fully get that part, but for me, if I'm a state, I want to be able to govern and create certain laws with AI that may be different than somebody else's. To be able to attract better talent, or to say, no, I'm not okay with you doing that. Is this DeSantis' clip talking about the same issue?

• 24:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, this is DeSantis, late last month, late June, where he discusses why he was not in favor of the AI provisions in the big, beautiful bill.

• 24:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it, go for it. Here's DeSantis.

• 24:32Adam Sosnick?

  Raises the issue of this, this whole artificial intelligence. You know, they're talking about in Washington banning states from being able to regulate it at all for the next ten years. And as governor, I want to be able to provide protections for you working with the legislature if that's warranted. This stuff is progressing so quickly, but you will absolutely get to a point where they can just take you. They can put words in your mouth and do a video, and you're basically saying something that's the opposite of what you actually believe. And they can make you do, they can have you depict you doing awful things. That's not the world that we want to live in, and so I think that the states need to be able to retain their ability

• 25:18Adam Sosnick?

  to handle the emerging AI issues. So this is a really significant issue.

• 25:24Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm with it, because, again, if a state wants to be a little more liberal, guess what they do? They attract the people that want to have their AIs being done there. If somebody wants to be a little bit more aggressive, a little bit more conservative, then you may say, that may not be a place for me. Adam, your thoughts on this?

• 25:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, just about the AI. Do you remember about a year ago, the World Economic Forum had their list of the top?

• 25:44Adam Sosnick?

  Ten most pressing issues that the world is going to be facing.

• 25:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 25:48Adam Sosnick?

  For the next decade. And do you remember the number one on the list was misinformation and disinformation? Do you recall that?

• 25:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, of course. Yes.

• 25:55Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, so this I think is the centerpiece of that. I mean, how many videos I'm seeing AI videos of grandmas and grandpas talking about all sorts of sexual stuff. It's like, what? What just happened here? I saw Trump playing the World Cup and scored the winning goal.

• 26:09Speaker 05

  Yeah, what were you watching, bro?

• 26:11Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, yeah, it's pretty sexual. I've seen Taylor Swift sitting on Trump's lap. We've seen these deep fakes. There's misinformation. There's disinformation. We're getting to the point where we're not gonna even know what's real and what's not real. They're talking about some of the highest earning women online are not even real women. They're AI bots. So this might not be the number one issue right now, but if things turn out to go this way, we're gonna circle back in five years and see if this turned out to be true.

• 26:36Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, I don't even think that's what it is, though. I don't think they're worried about the deep fakes. I think they're worried about other type of regulation that they go above and beyond, like, let's just say Palantir is trying to do to do something. They want to be able to say as long as the federal government says it's okay, it's okay. And Florida wants to be able to say, no, um, no, we're not doing that in our state. We're not gonna be doing this in our state. I think it's a little bit more than that. Is this the clip that was extremely disturbing?

• 27:00Speaker 05

  This was with Peter Thiel sitting down with Ross Douthat, and he's talking about the Antichrist and how, you know, the Antichrist could be ushered in through AI because he was warning this guy about it. By the way, I don't, Peter Thiel looks kind of odd, but listen to the, look at how awkward he he turns, Pat. Once he mentions the Antichrist and him basically being able to usher him in if he's if he's if he's really going there. Play this clip, Robbie? That's gonna be the first.

• 27:26Adam Sosnick?

  My, my, my very specific question for you, right, is that you are, you're, you're an investor in AI. You're, you know, you're deeply invested in Palantir, in military technology, in technologies of surveillance and technologies of warfare and so on, right? And it just seems to me that when you tell me a story about the Antichrist coming to power and using the fear of technological change to sort of impose. order on the world. I feel like that Antichrist would be maybe be using the tools. Look at that. That you that you are that you are building, right? Like, wouldn't the Antichrist be like, great? You know, we're not going to have any more technological progress. But I really like what Palantir has done so far. Right?

• 28:11Adam Sosnick?

  I mean, isn't that if isn't that a concern? Wouldn't that be the, you know, the irony of history would be that the man publicly worrying about the Antichrist? Accidentally. Accidentally hastens his or her arrival. Look, look.

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• 29:23Adam Sosnick?

  They're all look, there are all these different scenario. I obviously don't think that that's what I'm doing. Oh, I, uh. I mean, to be clear, I don't think that's I don't think that's what you're doing either. I'm just interested in how you get to a world willing to submit to permanent authoritarian rule. Well, but.

• 29:41Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, he makes a very, this is a very important question he's asking right there.

• 29:45Adam Sosnick?

  Huge.

• 29:47Patrick Bet-David?

  He says, I don't think you're doing it, but how do you prevent from a guy? Go back seven seconds, Rob. Could you go back seven seconds? Keep going, keep going, keep going 10 seconds. Yeah, play that clip from right there. I don't think you're doing it.

• 29:59Adam Sosnick?

  Rule. Well, but. But again, uh, there, there are these different gradations of this we can describe, but

• 30:11Adam Sosnick?

  is this so preposterous, what I've just told you as a broad account of the stagnation? That the entire world has submitted for 50 years to peace.

• 30:24Tom Ellsworth?

  And safety ism. This is a first Thessalonians five three. The slogan of the Antichrist is peace and safety because and and we've submitted. That's correct. He looks.

• 30:34Patrick Bet-David?

  How do we know that's not AI itself? It's actually, Tom, what do you think about what he's saying?

• 30:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, he's pointing, Peter Thiel sounds like, and I'm not inside his head, and there's a lot that was going on in that interview. But he's correctly pointing out that verse in first Thessalonians that says that the Antichrist will come. I bring peace. I bring safety. And what does everybody want right now? They want peace and safety. By the way, when Amy and I, when you said, hey, let's do a 16 week countdown. Let's look at the polling. And so we did that. And it was great programming that you chartered on value attainment. And one of the things that we found was state by state, guess what was number, the closer you got to the southern border. Immigration was number one, and that safety related immigration was number one, much different in Missouri than it was in Arizona.

• 31:21Tom Ellsworth?

  And Arizona, Republicans and Democrats were worried about it because in Arizona, it was on their front lawns. So what he's talking about is peace and safety ism has been something that the voter and the citizen has wanted for 50 years or more. Look at how Germany agreed to things at the end of World War Two. Because the Germans that were still alive in villages that weren't even connected, the Nazis, they just wanted it to stop so he could get back. And so they agreed to things, including, you know, they didn't really protest and understand what was going on with the split of Germany that was happening. And so they went with peace and safety. So what he's talking about is very accurate. People look for peace and safety and the Antichrist will come offering peace and safety.

• 32:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Now, I disagree. I do not think AI is going to hasten the arrival of the Antichrist. The sin of man will hasten the arrival of the Antichrist and hasten the return of the real Christ, Jesus Christ. However, along the way, the deception will be great. And I think that's the point he's trying to get to. But the other gentleman was making, I think was a good and fair and point. Aren't every advanced tool, you know, like if you go look at all of the technological tools, you look at the DVD. You look at video games, you look at things that were going on, you look at the multi camera angles that run DVD. Do you know what the first industry always to use all of these entertainment advanced technology is?

• 32:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Government?

• 32:44Tom Ellsworth?

  Porn. Porn, porn was the first one to use all the advanced stuff on DVD. They say, imagine watching a movie from five different angles. Boom, porn had it first. And so, sinfulness and things goes first with usually technological advances because fraudsters used it before there's controls and evil people use it before there's laws and a sheriff. And so, whereas the Antichrist will say, hey, I will clean all this up. I will make it nice for you. He's absolutely correct and he's speaking from a biblical point of view.

• 33:16Patrick Bet-David?

  I like it. Okay, next story. Trump says Israel agrees to conditions of 60-day ceasefire as proposal heads to Hamas. President Trump revealed on Tuesday that Israel, Israel has agreed to the conditions of the 60-day ceasefire with Hamas. My representative has, is this the one, Rob, if you have, okay, my representative had a long and productive meeting with Israel's, Israelis today on Gaza. Israel has agreed to the 60 days and the conditions during which time we will work with all parties to end the war. The Qataris and Egyptians, who have worked very hard to help bring peace, will deliver this final proposal. I hope for the good of the Middle East that Hamas takes this deal because it will not get better. It will only get worse. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Adam, your thoughts

• 34:01Patrick Bet-David?

  on this?

• 34:02Adam Sosnick?

  Well, Trump's trying to run the table and work out all these deals that he's been working on. It first started with India and Pakistan a couple of weeks ago. We see that the ceasefire between Iran and Israel is holding and now he's moving on to Gaza and then hopefully he can run the table on Russia and Ukraine. But Trump is a dealmaker and he's trying to cut a deal. So what's happening here, in my opinion, there's a proposal, there's conditions, and what's the title of the article that Israel has agreed to the conditions, is it not? So, Israel has agreed. Now, Israel, in my opinion, they have two... Uh, stipulations. Uh, number one, uh, can we get our hostages back? You know, those people that you just kind of like ran up on and stole and hijacked and

• 34:46Adam Sosnick?

  killed a lot of people, you know, that whole thing. And then number two, this is kind of important. Yeah. Stop terrorizing us. We'd like that. We'd like to just live in peace and prosperity and not have missiles from Houthis and Hezbollah and Hamas and Islamic Jihad and all the terror crew out there. Uh, just terrorizing people because you know, that's what terrorists do. They terrorize. Meanwhile, we're literally negotiating with terrorists. And you know, the whole, the phrase about not negotiating with terrorists. And then Hamas comes back and, uh, what did Trump say? That they had, they basically gave an unacceptable counter offer. So the story kind of goes like, all right, yeah, we'll give you the hostages back. Some are going to be dead. Sorry about that.

• 35:28Adam Sosnick?

  Uh, but the second part, the whole like stopping jihad. Yeah, we can't do that. Like Diddy, we can't stop, won't stop. That's just kind of what we do. It's kind of in our charter that you can't live. So in my opinion, this is one big poker game. And you know, you talked about the word tilt the other day, Pat. You know, when you're throwing good money after bad money, oh my God, I'm on tilt. Well, in poker or in cards, it's all about who has the leverage. Now Hamas using a Trump quote, Hamas don't got the cards, right, Zelensky? So meanwhile, Israel has a full house. They got three kings, two queens. They just eliminated all the terror proxies surrounding them. The, with the help of America eliminated Iran's nuclear capabilities. And Hamas is basically holding a pair of twos and maybe an ace up their sleeve,

• 36:13Adam Sosnick?

  which whatever that is, uh, which doesn't exist. Uh, they're like, yeah, we're going to negotiate here. If this were a real negotiation, like an actual business negotiation, Israel would just run over Gaza and Hamas and just say, better luck next time. But they're trying to, uh, sort of play the geopolitical nice guy without wiping out this entire community.

• 36:37Tom Ellsworth?

  We'll see what happens.

• 36:37Patrick Bet-David?

  How do you sit there and say, "Second request is dismantling Hamas." How do you, what does it mean to dismantle Hamas? What does that ask mean? How does a Hamas organization get dismantled?

• 36:52Tom Ellsworth?

  So I think that there's, there's really only one angle I can think of. And it's cutting off all of their money and supply. But the money and supply has always flown black market for these guys. I mean, the whole, I mean, Adam said it very well. Their charter is, "You shall not live." How do you dismantle that charter when that is at the core of their belief in existence? And if you cut off their arms supply, and you cut off their, their dark dollars that are coming through Iran and others, then, okay, you still have a group of people who believe in their heart in the charter, even if you tear up the charter as a piece of paper.

• 37:32Tom Ellsworth?

  So dismantling Hamas, I think, really means disrupting and disorganizing where they have their bases and where they're getting their money. I, I think that's probably the angle. Because unless you go out and systematically figure out how to kill each and every Hamas, and then wait for their 13-year-old sons to grow up and get worse, right? Which is what happens, is what happened with Al Qaeda.

• 37:58Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, I don't know how you dismantle it. I only know how you dismantle, you disrupt the hell out of it for now.

• 38:04Patrick Bet-David?

  It says, "Number one, disarm, give up all weapons, including rockets, guns, and other military capabilities." You think Hamas is gonna do that? No. "Number two, disband its military wing, dissolve the Is Adin Al-Ghassam bridges, the armed wing of Hamas."

• 38:20Tom Ellsworth?

  And their money.

• 38:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. "Number three, relinquish political and administrative control, step down from governing Gaza, potentially handing over control to other authority, like the Palestinian Authority or international body. "Four, end all hostility, cease planning, supporting, or carrying out attacks against Israel permanently. "And five, accept Israel's right to exist a broader, long-term..." I mean, this is, they're not gonna do that. So Vinnie, what do you think about this ceasefire?

• 38:46Speaker 05

  I don't know. I know Adam mentioned something about, you know, because, you know, Israel could just go over and get rid of everybody if they wanted to. I saw a video, Pat. I'm hearing that, Rob. I saw a video of just what Gaza, what Rafa looks like in Gaza, on the Gaza Strip. And this is a five-month-old video. This is five months ago. I mean, I understand they were going after Hamas and they were hiding in buildings and stuff, but this, this looks like Hamas was literally everywhere. There's gonna be another shot of overhead. My, my question is, like, where, where is Hamas? This is Gaza, this is Rafa. This is one section of Gaza where it's decimated. I understand they're talking about a ceasefire, but what, where's Hamas here?

• 39:31Tom Ellsworth?

  They're, they're what's known as living in the tunnels.

• 39:34Speaker 05

  Oh, well, guess what?

• 39:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Instead of taking the billions of dollars at the UN and all the Arab states have given them, they decided to build down and build tunnels.

• 39:42Speaker 05

  But look at this video, Adam. This is wiping out the entire city. And Israel, I think, is technologically advanced. They could go in those tunnels, put your boots on the ground, and go get these guys. And go get them. Because that ceasefire, again, Pat, you're right. You're negotiating with terrorists. America doesn't negotiate with terrorists. So if Israel's gonna do that, go finish, finish it. Get on the ground and go get them. Because they're not, I'm with Pat. You think you're gonna negotiate with Hamas? With terrorists? No, because that's what-

• 40:14Tom Ellsworth?

  I agree. All you can do is disrupt them. And even if you disrupt their money, disrupt their arms, disrupt them, you're disrupting them, comma, for now. Because all their children are sitting there with the same charter and the same belief on their heart, waiting to grow up and, and take up dad's, take up the family business, which is eliminate Israel.

• 40:34Adam Sosnick?

  Well, PBD asked a very important question, like, how do you actually do this? And Tom sort of touched the surface of what you do. And you take away their funding, and you mentioned Iran. You know, Iran is definitely funding them, especially in the military wings. But it's no secret that the biggest disruptor and the biggest funder of terrorism isn't necessarily Iran, it's Qatar. So if you look at the title of this article, what two countries are negotiating with Israel and the United States? It's Egypt and, drumroll, Qatar. So Egypt, in my opinion, a lot of the Arab states actually don't actually care about the Palestinians. I'm sorry. There's more people in the West, the Greta Thunbergs of the world, the woke mobs of the world- Even the Candaces of the world that care way more about what's going on in Gaza than the actual neighbors.

• 41:19Adam Sosnick?

  Because have you ever seen the fence in between Egypt and Gaza? It's worse than the one in Israel. Egypt don't want these people. Jordan doesn't want these people. Lebanon is taking in zero people. Why is that? But why is Qatar involved? Qatar's nowhere near them. It's because Qatar is basically Hamas's daddy. Where did they find Ismail Haniya? There's the fence in Egypt. That's a sign that they don't want you coming through here to Egypt. And we saw what happened when

• 41:46Tom Ellsworth?

  That's a border wall.

• 41:47Adam Sosnick?

  Basically, the woke left showed up to Egypt and tried to get into Gaza. They were turned around not politely. But Hamas, being funded by their daddy Qatar. Qatar is a very interesting country because they present this sort of lipstick on a pig, neutral ambassador. We're going to work this out. Meanwhile, they're the ones funding the Muslim Brotherhood. When the US had to negotiate with the Taliban, where did they meet? In Doha, Qatar. Qatar is the daddy. And don't take my word for it. Take their neighbors. Saudi, UAE, and Egypt itself has all accused Qatar of funding terrorism. So the person negotiating, the middleman, is actually the person that's funding everything. It's a very weird situation here. And Israel, in my opinion, they're doing two things.

• 42:33Adam Sosnick?

  Peace through strength. They're not messing around anymore. They've eliminated all their enemies. And number two, they're basically saying total domination within that sector. And we're going to see what happens, what Trump does here with Gaza. But in my opinion, Israel should just take the whole thing over.

• 42:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, if I look at a comparison to ISIS, right? Remember, every day was ISIS, ISIS, ISIS, ISIS, ISIS. And then when they took out Abu Bakr.

• 42:59Adam Sosnick?

  Bakr.

• 43:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Bakr. Died like a dog, right? That whole thing that happened.

• 43:02Adam Sosnick?

  Beautiful dog.

• 43:03Patrick Bet-David?

  And then it gradually disappeared. But they went right after the head leader. Now, they're still around in a couple of different pockets. They're not as big as they used to be. But I just don't know what it means.

• 43:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, as long as you get rid of Hamas, this is what, no, I don't see that.

• 43:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, how do you kill an ideology, right? I guess that's the question.

• 43:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but why, what do you mean, then to me, then it goes to, Israel is asking something that's impossible.

• 43:30Patrick Bet-David?

  That you're making those two conditions, I'm sorry, if I'm Trump, I'm like, no, we can't deliver on that. Why? Because they're true believers, fanatical, they're never gonna stop. So what do you mean, one of the conditions is getting rid of Hamas? That's not possible. They're not going away. They can't stand you. You want them to suddenly stop? And I don't mean it from a standpoint of, you know, I don't mean it from a standpoint of, you know,

• 44:04Patrick Bet-David?

  leverage or any of that stuff. I think this is a dumb deal. I think it is, because you want a ceasefire and one of the two conditions is this?

• 44:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Who's gonna listen? You think they're gonna listen? You really, like, are we supposed to be this naive? I'm sorry, I'm, I'm, I'm really trying to buy in. I have a hard time, I have a, like, I've been around these guys in the Middle East when I'm, they're fanatical.

• 44:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep.

• 44:34Patrick Bet-David?

  You can't reason with them. You can't say, let's have a reasonable conversation. We're willing to do this as long as you guys stop talking about that Israel doesn't have the right to exist. We will, no, go read their charter. So why is that one of your two requests? No, you, it's, it's, it's almost as if Israel is asking for something, knowing that can't get done. So if you're asking for that, knowing it can't get done, what do you want to be done? What do you, what do you really want to get done? Uh, yeah.

• 45:02Tom Ellsworth?

  It's interesting, Pat, you talk a lot about negotiation. And when you, and you're one of the most astute negotiators that I've ever seen in multiple things. And when you ask for something that you know the other side won't give you, it gives you the excuse to keep fighting.

• 45:18Patrick Bet-David?

  No, that's, I, I, Great point. I, I'm not, I'm not with this approach, and I'm not, because I would sit there and I would say, let's just say I'm in the room and you're asking me for that kind of a request, I'm like, no, you know they're not gonna do it.

• 45:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, then I'm not gonna stop fighting if you can't agree to something.

• 45:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, then why don't you just say that publicly?

• 45:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Stop.

• 45:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but but it's both sides, though. It's not a, you know, to me, if you just wanna go do what you wanna do, stop making it seem like you're forced. Just go do it already. Go, just go do what you wanna do already. Don't tell me I have to get rid of Hamas and put the onus on me that you're agreeing to a ceasefire. That's an impossibility. It's not gonna happen.

• 45:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, everyone's shouting ceasefire now, ceasefire now. I forget that there's two terms of the negotiation. They just stopped the ceasefire. Well, there's still shooting rockets. They still have our hostages. How do you stop this? You know, a major point, this is, it's so funny, like, if you don't learn from history, you're destined to repeat it. Golda Meir, who was the first female prime minister of Israel, she said the following. There will be peace when the terrorists, the Palestinians, what have you, love their children more than they hate Israel.

• 46:29Tom Ellsworth?

  If you love your children more than you hate Israel, you'll want your children to live and grow and not have them in indoctrination jihad camps. How many times have you seen videos of five-year-olds, six-year-olds, wearing terrorist outfits with guns? This whole society has been indoctrinated. How do you, how do you get around that?

• 46:44Patrick Bet-David?

  You're not going to. There's a billion and a half of them around the world, of which take a, a, a tenth are fanatical, and a tenth of those are extremely fanatical, which is a percent of them. That's a big number.

• 46:58Tom Ellsworth?

  I hear you.

• 46:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's just actually do this. What's a tenth of a billion and a half? A hundred and fifty million. But let's just say they support some of these things, but they're not fully fanatical. What's one percent of a hun- what's one percent of one and a half billion? What's one percent of one and a half billion? Fifteen million. What's point one percent? One point five million. What's point zero one percent? A hundred and fifty one, fifty thousand. What's point zero zero one percent? Fifteen thousand. That's fifteen thousand too many. That's fifteen thousand too many. Yeah, so you, the, the, this is-

• 47:29Tom Ellsworth?

  They said the same thing, they said the same thing about Egypt. They had a peace deal with Egypt. They said the same thing about the Jordanians. They had a peace deal with Jordan. Now they have the Abraham Accords. They've done deals all around the Middle East. This is why Bibi, and quite frankly, is more focused on the new version of the Abraham Accords and getting peace with actual major players in Saudi than, uh-

• 47:48Patrick Bet-David?

  This is BS negotiation.

• 47:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Hamas.

• 47:49Patrick Bet-David?

  This, this is BS negotiation.

• 47:51Tom Ellsworth?

  What would you do?

• 47:52Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm, I'm gonna give you. My number one step is Iran. My number one step is not Hamas. Where's the money coming from? Who is funding them? Who's backing them?

• 47:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Qatar and Iran, yes.

• 47:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so then go to the source. Go to the source. This is step number eight. Like you go and play domino, there's ten dominos. When you want to have the tipping, you know, you hit the first domino. Why are we going and hitting number eight domino? The first one's the problem. Get to the first one, not to the eighth one. I don't understand this methodology of negotiation. To me, this is theatrics. To me, this is all like, like, hey, we're open to it. No, you're not. You're not open to it. This is pure for theater and TV and for. You're saying Hamas is not open to it? No, I think both of them. Stop acting like you're pursuing a peace deal. You're giving something that 90% of naive people will fall for and say, wow, look, they really want to do this. No, number one is Iran.

• 48:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Number one is not Hamas. It goes to that. Now, I know the people that can't stand Israel, those who hate Israel, whatever you want to call them, the woke right, any of that stuff. They're going to say, no, number one is Israel. But the reality is, pre 79, it was cool. It was chill. What happened after that? The fanatics showed up. The extremists showed up. I'm going to go to the next story because this just drives me insane just reading this even more and more. It's purely showmanship and it's not something I support. Not for things like this. Rob, can you do me a favor? Just play this clip. I don't want any reaction to it. I just want to play this clip. Here's CNN Harry Enton talking about where Trump's at right now. More beloved amongst Republicans than any. Watch this one here. Very weird. Watch this. Go ahead.

• 49:26Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, every politician would like this number here, especially to see it go up. How about compared to other presidents who were Republicans?

• 49:33Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's history making. It's history making. What are we talking about here? So why don't we look back? We have all the presidents, Republican presidents, going back over the last 35, 36, 37 years. What are we talking about? GOP who strongly approved five months in. Look at this. George, H W Bush, Bush 41, 46%. Bush 43, 59. You see Trump, the first term, 53. But look at this. Damn. 63%. He beats all the other Republicans on the board here, and I was looking even back since Reagan. And get this, Donald Trump beats Ronald Reagan when it comes to the strongly approved five months. And of course Reagan was coming off that high after that assassination attempt. So the bottom line is Donald Trump is making history with the Republican base.

• 50:15Speaker 05

  He is more beloved by this Republican base than any Republican base loved any GOP president. Five months in, it is history making.

• 50:24Patrick Bet-David?

  So I'm gonna go to this next story, which which kind of coincides with this. Elon Musk's Trump's Libertarian Libertarian seek partnership with Elon Musk, okay? Seek partnership with Elon Musk. So what does this mean? Uh, what does this mean? Let's go to this. Because you saw the fallout between the two, and it doesn't seem like it's slowing down anytime soon. Libertarian National Committee Chair Steven Akhelia urged Billy and Elon Musk to join the Libertarian Party rather than start a new third party, stating making a third party would be a mistake. And Libertarian Party is the most set up party to be the dissonant subservice. Party, he noted, the party's budget is a million dollars to three million dollars annually. Wow, that's not even a budget.

• 51:08Patrick Bet-David?

  While Musk spent over 250 million dollars in 2024 in his pact to support President Trump, he added, once the capital is there, the doors get blown wide open. Uh, he emphasized the Libertarian Party's established ballot access in nearly every state, stating that there's no way independent or new party can actually do this. Rob, can you pull up the poll of Elon Musk talking much? Should I start a third party? And then by doing so, Musk escalated his feud with President Trump by supporting Republican Kentucky Representative Thomas Massey's 2026 reelection, stating on X, I will when pressed on Monday and me on Tuesday in response to a post about backing Massey's campaign. Musk criticized Trump's big, beautiful bill, posting on X, every member of Congress who campaigned,

• 51:53Patrick Bet-David?

  da, da, da, we read this last week that is gonna campaign against them. I will try to. What's the word he used?

• 51:59Patrick Bet-David?

  What's the word you use that I'm gonna primary you out? Matthew posing the bill for insufficient bills spending cuts told the Daily Caller, "The political calculus that both the president and AIPAC have to consider is if they go after me and lose, they've lost a lot of credibility." Here's the one, is that the one Rob that he talks about?

• 52:16Tom Ellsworth?

  No, that's a different poem stuff.

• 52:17Patrick Bet-David?

  So anyway, there's discussions about polls. So now you heard about the popularity amongst Republicans. What are the chances you think Musk saw that clip? What is the likelihood you think Musk saw the clip about Trump's popularity being above Trump?

• 52:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Highly likely, 100%.

• 52:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so he's watching that. When he sees that, what is he thinking, long term? What is he thinking long term? Do you think there's a high likelihood that Musk starts a third party, Tom?

• 52:46Tom Ellsworth?

  There's a video out there of that. So, do I think he's gonna try?

• 52:51Patrick Bet-David?

  The video, do you have it?

• 52:51Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm gonna look for it right now. Yes, I think he's gonna try, for two reasons. One, is there is, there are a large number of voters that are the Lieberman voters, that are the Joe Manchin voters, who are the edge independents from both parties, who are a little fed up with both sides. And then there are those people that are true centrists, who believe that we live in a uniparty. And so there is a certain percent of people that believe there is absolutely uniparty. And then there are people that are frustrated Democrats and frustrated Republicans. All of those coming together under one banner, call it the lavender, whatever you wanna call it, and I don't mean lavender like LGBTQ, talking about true purple, right?

• 53:36Tom Ellsworth?

  In terms of red versus blue, mixing. So, do I think that Elon Musk is going to try to galvanize that support? He's, he has shown that he can be impulsive, and he uses his money as leverage. So I think yes, I think he's going to try. Now, how big of a swing of the ball will this be? I don't know, but I believe he's gonna try because I believe he's bitter. I believe that we see a lot of things coming out right now. And I believe that this big beautiful bill, we have not yet seen, and we're gonna see it in earnings reports, and I'm not gonna go- Back to my analysis from last time that there's a lot of different angles that are going to impact Tesla and I think he's pissed off.

• 54:14Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, when Biden invited all the EV companies and he left one out, do you remember that one meeting and he was so furious?

• 54:20Tom Ellsworth?

  And would you like to believe that that kind of lit the fuse?

• 54:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, let me just say.

• 54:24Tom Ellsworth?

  For a billionaire dancing on stage in Butler, Pennsylvania?

• 54:27Patrick Bet-David?

  So that's one, right? Do you remember when Newsom did what he did to the county where, you know, Tesla's headquarters were and he's like, wait a minute, you want to do this? I'm out, right? Do you remember all this?

• 54:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Correct.

• 54:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. So there's a pattern here. Okay. Remember how I said, you know, you have to watch people politically on where their opinion comes from. Number one is bias. Number two is who offended them. And there's different levels of being offended. There's those that are offended and move on and there's those that are offended that will never forget. And then there's those that are offended that will never forget and they will do everything in their power to seek their vengeance. And those people typically, you know, don't necessarily, they don't have a way to uh, uh, tap into their faith. It's tough, but I'm talking seeking vengeance at all costs with negative vengeance, not positive. There is choose your enemies wisely that brings out the best in you. There's choose your enemies wisely that brings out the worst in you.

• 55:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Musk has been offended on the biggest stage in the world. There's not a stage bigger than that. There just isn't. He got offended at the highest level. Is he able to reason and be fair? I don't think so. I think those two are out the window. Would he be willing to spend billions of dollars to start a third party? I think so. Do I think he will be successful? For sure. Here's a poll that he ran, Rob. Glad you found it. Is it time to create a new political party? In America that actually represents the 80% in the middle? Yes. 80% said yes. He says 80% in the middle and 80% said yes. And that's a good sample amount. That's 5.6 million people that voted for this. Go a little bit lower, Rob.

• 56:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Does it show uh uh when this poll was? I just want the date if you could find it.

• 56:07Tom Ellsworth?

  I I'll find the date.

• 56:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, I just wonder when this date was.

• 56:09Tom Ellsworth?

  June 30th.

• 56:10Patrick Bet-David?

  June 30th, so that's that's a few days ago. It's not a long time ago. I think if there's any guy that could start a third party and get a lot of support behind it and completely disrupt the Republican Party and and and all of it is this guy. Let me go ahead and play this clip, Rob. What's this about?

• 56:28Tom Ellsworth?

  This is the clip Vinny sent.

• 56:29Speaker 05

  Yeah, this might be one and also just to follow up on this one. Do you remember when they asked him who would be in the White House in 2032? That's a a quick clip after this one I want to show you. You'll remember it.

• 56:40Adam Sosnick?

  I built rockets and cars and stuff. Um, so what what am I doing in politics? Um, it's it's it's not, I I don't want to be in politics. I want to be clear. That is not my preference. I I like I just like building stuff. I like building products that people love. Um, and and and I, you know, I I I derive joy from seeing people enjoy the products that my companies make. I actually don't like politics at all. I hate politics. But but but but the stakes are so high.

• 57:11Speaker 05

  But here it comes.

• 57:12Adam Sosnick?

  Here that I I have had no choice but to uh take a stand. Um, so it's it's not something I want to do and.

• 57:20Patrick Bet-David?

  What is it saying here though?

• 57:21Speaker 05

  He's basically saying like I I don't want.

• 57:24Patrick Bet-David?

  No, but it doesn't say third party though.

• 57:27Speaker 05

  No, but but basically what he's saying is he he doesn't like politics at all. But when this this much that did. But you see the AI one Pat that he said?

• 57:34Patrick Bet-David?

  What's the AI one?

• 57:34Speaker 05

  The the he he he's basically saying they said, who do you think is going to be the president in 2023? He's like, how do you know it's not going to be an AI version of this or that? That one's a that's that's even a scary one. But him him saying he doesn't have to get involved, but when it's his money involved, then he gets.

• 57:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, what's this clip?

• 57:48Speaker 05

  This is the AI question.

• 57:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Play the clip. He's going to win the White House in 2024.

• 57:56Speaker 05

  won the White House in 2032. Which type of AI? Transformers or the fusion? He's already going there. You know what I mean? To hell with 2024. 2032, that's where he's going.

• 58:07Patrick Bet-David?

  He's the one guy that could start a third party and piss a lot of people off and disrupt like ways we've never seen before. By the way, keep this in mind. Everything in negotiations, negotiations about leverage, right? Long term, what does he have negotiation? What does he have leverage? Starlink? You need it. Iran, Starlink, Ukraine, Starlink. Hey, we need Starlink, Starlink, Starlink. Hey, can you send Starlink? Begging him to send Starlink, right? Okay. All right.

• 58:34Patrick Bet-David?

  What's gonna happen with robots? Guess who's gonna want a lot of robots?

• 58:37Speaker 05

  Everybody. Military.

• 58:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 58:39Speaker 05

  Everybody.

• 58:39Patrick Bet-David?

  So the only leverage the government has is if they keep giving the money to them and they stop that.

• 58:47Patrick Bet-David?

  If they stop funding him. If he's shown this type of behavior after gathering billions of dollars from the US government, I would not be surprised if President Trump suddenly comes out and say the funding for Musk is stopped. Then, do you think Musk can get funding from anywhere if he really wanted to? He can get money from anywhere if he wants to.

• 59:08Speaker 05

  Opposition 100%.

• 59:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Anywhere if he wants to. So the sequencing of making some of these decisions, you have to be, you have to be really thinking about what's gonna happen next with this. But I think if there's anybody that can do a third party, it's him. Adam, your thoughts on this?

• 59:23Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't think Elon is gonna do this third party thing. I think if you just take him literally, he don't wanna be in politics. I think he kinda dipped his toe into the water. How long did he last at Doge? Six months? And all of a sudden, he's back to basically colonizing Mars. Anytime that somebody tries to start a third party, it's always easier said than done. I, I, I agree that this two-party binary system is killing us. No doubt. But anytime that a third party is mentioned, I always say one thing. Who's your candidate? Because if you look at case examples, shout out to the Biz Doc.

• 59:59Tom Ellsworth?

  The, the most successful libertarian candidate of all time was Gary Johnson in 2016. He had 4.5 million votes, 3%. of the popular vote, zero electoral votes. And then we had the powerhouse in 2020 known as Jo Jorgensen. What a candidate. Uh, and she got 1.8 million votes, zero electoral college votes, Loserville. The last candidate that I remember who actually kind of tipped an election was 2000 Ralph Nader Green Party. He had, you know, a million votes. The last successful candidate that was in a third party didn't win zero electoral votes. Was of course Ross Pro in 92, right? He helped getting, he helped get Clinton elected. RFK, we thought he was gonna do great. You know, he's a Republican now, essentially.

• 1:00:44Tom Ellsworth?

  So all these candidates that come out there to get paraded out there, they end up getting zero electoral votes. They end up making a mess and a lot of times they end up tipping the election to the team that you necessarily don't want to win. And the last part is this, there's no infrastructure. If you look at the quote where he says, um, there's no way an independent new party. Will actually do this due to time resources required, just like with RFK. So in my opinion, unless the Libertarian Party, the Independent Party, whoever actually has a viable candidate, it's all just hot air.

• 1:01:15Patrick Bet-David?

  This is not the regular guy. By the way, here's, here's, here's.

• 1:01:18Tom Ellsworth?

  But he can't run.

• 1:01:19Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I get.

• 1:01:19Tom Ellsworth?

  He can fund somebody.

• 1:01:20Patrick Bet-David?

  But that's even more.

• 1:01:21Tom Ellsworth?

  But who's the candidate?

• 1:01:22Patrick Bet-David?

  That's even more powerful. He's good. He's gonna find his candidates. Here's the part you have to be thinking about. I'm okay. I'm just trying to fix this thing is the following. You say he doesn't want to be in politics, bro.

• 1:01:33Tom Ellsworth?

  He said that.

• 1:01:34Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I get that. He is in politics. He's been in politics. The moment you become a billionaire and not even a billionaire, the moment you're public. And your worth into billions, let alone tens of billions, let alone hundreds of billions. You are in politics. You don't have a choice. You are in politics. You are a politician. You are dealing with all the lawmakers. You are dealing with all the lobbyists. You are dealing with all these other prime ministers and presidents. Elon Musk is in politics. He doesn't have a choice. He can never, ever leave politics, ever.

• 1:02:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Whether you like it or not, this is kinda how it goes. You ever see those videos where, you know, these celebrities say, you know, I miss the days when I wanted to just go to Walmart and be able to buy something, da, da, da, da, all this other stuff, right? Okay, great. And you lose that Walmart, uh, uh, uh, freedom of going to Walmart or Target or whatever it is. This guy, he built something that's revolutionary, and now you don't wanna deal with politics, you don't have a choice. Every one of his biggest feuds, if you think about it, the last few years have been with politicians. Go ahead, don't do politics. You don't have a choice. If I'm an advisor and I'm sitting there in a room with him, I'm a friend or a family or somebody that he's coming for coun- uh, counsels, like, I'm so sick and tired of dealing with these bullshit politicians that one minute they promise this, one minute they say this, one minute they say that.

• 1:02:59Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm done with politics, I'm gonna say, no Elon, you can't. You don't have a choice. Your approach has to change. But you don't have a choice of getting out of it. So for him, he doesn't like to be controlled. He's the worst employee in the world because he doesn't need to be one. He, he, he believes in himself so much that he doesn't like control. And the more he moves up, there's control he can't stand him. Again, my opinion.

• 1:03:23Adam Sosnick?

  Can I push back on you a little bit?

• 1:03:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Of course you can push back, yeah, for sure.

• 1:03:26Adam Sosnick?

  So, here's where you're definitely right, and then here's where maybe, uh, there could be an adjustment. So, he's a hundred percent in politics. So, I mean, if you remember when, when Trump ran in 2016, he's like, yeah, I know all the donors, I've given it to all these people, I know what's going on here. You know, Hillary Clinton won't remove this tax deduction because all her rich, famous friends use it, same thing I would do, right? So they're all in politics, I totally agree. But there's a difference between being in politics, kinda playing the game, versus trying to basically start a new third party. That's like starting a new startup, right? I mean, you can appreciate that. You wanna give seed capital, startup, who's gonna be your CEO? That's a whole nother level of getting involved in politics.

• 1:04:05Patrick Bet-David?

  When I went to Brazil, and we were there and we were dealing with all these guys, there was a guy that everybody kept bringing up. And it's not a guy you know. Everybody kept bringing up, everybody kept bringing up, everybody kept bringing up. And he was the guy that had 21% of Brazil's voters. It was 14 to 21%. Uh, uh, uh, uh, who had, give me one second. And so, so, so this guy had fourteen to twenty-one percent of voters. And here's what it meant. He's never gonna be president. His candidates will never be president. But guess what?

• 1:04:48Patrick Bet-David?

  The road to presidency only comes with you giving favors. If you piss him off, you ain't getting elected, buddy. He controls it. Okay? And there's a name for the guy. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I don't know what the guy's name was. This guy was so powerful. Everywhere I went, they would bring up this guy. Everywhere I went, they would bring up this guy. On the political party that he had. Everybody. So if Musk gets to a point, I don't think it's that guy. It's a different one. I would see his face. He's a good-looking guy. Every, every, every time, if this guy even gets fifteen percent, he doesn't need to be fifty-one percent. If he gets fifteen percent, if he gets eighteen percent, if he gets twenty percent,

• 1:05:32Patrick Bet-David?

  he is the biggest throne. Every time midterms comes up, every time elections comes up, the most hated man and the most powerful man is the man that only controls fifteen to twenty percent. He doesn't need fifty-one percent. So I, I, I think, I think that's the one, by the, go, go back to the one, Liberty Park? That's it. That's the one right there. Cyril Gomez. What, what, I think this is the guy. What party is it that he controls?

• 1:05:56Tom Ellsworth?

  The Democratic Labor Party.

• 1:05:58Patrick Bet-David?

  And, and what percentage do they have? Yeah, I, I, I don't wanna say a hundred percent, but I, that, that, that looks like it's the guy.

• 1:06:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Ten to fifteen percent.

• 1:06:06Patrick Bet-David?

  That's the one where everybody, everybody has to go through this guy. It is the most annoying thing that they all were talking about. And he knew the power that he had. And guess what? Every time you wanted to go through him, it came with a bunch of favors you had to give to this guy. And it was so annoying. It was so annoying that they had to go through this guy every single flipping time. I'll try to find the name here in a minute. And give it so we know

• 1:06:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Who's that person?

• 1:06:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Huh?

• 1:06:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Who's that person in America, meaning?

• 1:06:35Patrick Bet-David?

  No, that could be Elon. That, that gives Elon full control. If Elon has influence over a party, you don't have to be somebody that wants-

• 1:06:45Tom Ellsworth?

  So then Elon is just a puppet master of whatever candidate shows up?

• 1:06:48Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, the, the-

• 1:06:49Tom Ellsworth?

  And then his leverage is, alright, if you don't back me, the other team is gonna win.

• 1:06:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, no way.

• 1:06:54Tom Ellsworth?

  It's still gonna be a Republican or a Democrat that wins.

• 1:06:55Patrick Bet-David?

  He becomes every candidate's boss. He becomes the ultimate puppet master. And you can't F with him. You cannot.

• 1:07:04Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't think we want that, do we?

• 1:07:05Patrick Bet-David?

  No, it's not that, it's, you don't have a choice, buddy. You know this whole thing with Muslims, you know, they're growing the Mecca in, uh, Plano, whatever they're building, what was it called in, you know?

• 1:07:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Epic City.

• 1:07:16Patrick Bet-David?

  What was it called in Dallas?

• 1:07:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Epic City.

• 1:07:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, go ahead, the Constitution says they can do it. Unless if you say, no one in Muslim Islam can be in the States building Meccas, these guys are gonna keep building. And you don't have a choice if a guy wanted to build a third, third, third party. Say whatever you wanna say, I'm building my third party, go ahead, do something about it. No, it's not that whether we want it or not, competition works that way. And you just offended the wealthiest man in America on the pu- on the highest level of public stage and everybody saw it. Everybody saw it. You think he's gonna forget? Have you read his book? Have you read his book to see what this guy's wiring is on? Uh, I, I don't think it's gonna go away anytime soon, but anyways, let's go to the next door here. Let's go to the next door here.

• 1:07:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's go to the next door here. So, Mamdani, mayor of, uh, uh, the guy that wants to be the mayor of New York. Trump deportation threat. We want to accept this intimidation. Rob, do you have the clip of Trump talking about deporting him? Let's start off with that one first. Here's, here's, uh, President Trump, go for it.

• 1:08:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Your beloved New York City may well be led by a communist soon, Zohran Mandami, who in his nomination speech said he will defy ICE and will not allow ICE to arrest criminal aliens in New York City. Your message to communist Zohran Mandami? Well then, we'll have to arrest him. Look- We don't need a communist in this country, but if we have one, I'm gonna be watching over him very carefully on behalf of the nation. We send him money, we send him all the things that he needs to run a government. And by the way, they get already, they get about three times what you get, Ron. If you look at the per capita, Florida gets one-third of what New York gets in terms of the numbers. Why don't you give us those numbers? Yeah, well, no. Because that's what we should send him.

• 1:09:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, well, sometimes people say Florida gets more because they count social security recipients, but that's not money to the state. Those are seniors that live here. If they moved to North Carolina, you could count it there. So it has no interaction with the state government. They get more in the city and state governments than we get. Right, substantially. We're gonna be watching that very carefully, and a lot of people are saying, "He's here illegally." You know, we're gonna look at everything. And ideally, he's gonna turn out to be much less than a communist. But right now, he's a communist. That's not a socialist.

• 1:09:32Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, so that's the president saying that. And then this is, by the way, the guy I was talking about earlier was Gilberto Casab. And this is him responding to President Trump. Go for it.

• 1:09:44Adam Sosnick?

  Yesterday, Donald Trump said that I should be arrested. He said that I should be deported. He said that I should be denaturalized. And he said those things about me, someone who stands to be the first immigrant mayor of this city in generations, someone who would also be the first Muslim and the first South Asian mayor in this city's history, less so because of who I am, because of where I come from, because of how I look or how I speak, and more so because he wants to distract from what I fight for. I fight for working people. I fight for the very people that have been priced out of this city, and I fight for the same people that he said he was fighting for.

• 1:10:29Adam Sosnick?

  This is the same president who ran on a campaign of cheaper groceries, who ran on a campaign about easing a suffocating cost of living crisis. And ultimately, it is easier for him to fan the flames of division than to acknowledge the ways in which he has betrayed those working-class Americans, not just in this city but across this country. And the ways in which he continues to betray them. Because we know that he would rather speak about me than speak about the legislation that he is shepherding through.

• 1:10:53Patrick Bet-David?

  He's so good.

• 1:10:53Speaker 05

  He's a pro.

• 1:10:54Adam Sosnick?

  Legislation that will quite literally take healthcare away from Americans. Legislation that will steal food.

• 1:11:01Speaker 05

  The rapping, yeah.

• 1:11:02Adam Sosnick?

  Legislation that looks to build upon one of the largest transfers of wealth we've seen in recent history.

• 1:11:07Patrick Bet-David?

  We got it, so now it's lip service, but.

• 1:11:11Speaker 05

  He's very good.

• 1:11:11Patrick Bet-David?

  He's very good at what he does. So, Tom, your thoughts on the president talking about we will get rid of him or any of that stuff and then his reaction to it?

• 1:11:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, what the president was answering a hypothetical with a hypothetical. And it's like, what if he walks up to you on a playground, sir, and hits you on the head with a stick? And what Trump looked at it and said, well, I guess I'm gonna pick up on a bigger stick and I'm gonna hit him back. And that's basically what you heard. And then you heard fact-based analysis. And by the way, it was really good to see DeSantis and Trump on that stage answering a question and being on the same side of something. Floridians wanted to see that. We voted for Trump for president and we've got a great governor in DeSantis. We really wanted to see that unity. And when he's talking about Mad Manny, the madman of New York.

• 1:12:02Tom Ellsworth?

  The madman of New York is speaking as if he's already mayor.

• 1:12:06Speaker 05

  He knows.

• 1:12:07Tom Ellsworth?

  He's just, he is doing that on purpose. I'm already here, I'm already in power. And it's a very interesting, you know, psychological ploy that he's putting on the voters. But what I think that Trump said was exactly right. Really? Okay, well, if you're not gonna go along with it, then I guess you're gonna get arrested, dude. I guess, you know, we're gonna have to take action against you because you're in violation of a federal order. And what you have to remember is, in New York City. He is trying to sow the seeds of chaos to get a bigger Marxist plan in place. Because Mad Manny knows exactly what he's doing. He knows where Eric Adams got all those EBT cards. Remember those? Of course.

• 1:12:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Sixty-three million dollars a week, or whatever that weird number was, and I'm gonna have that number wrong. But remember all that during Covid? And it's like, the rest of the nation was like, wow, what's going on? And I said, hey taxpayers of the United States of America, you are feeding New York. The government's not feeding New York. Every person in the rest of the United States who's a legal taxpaying citizen was feeding New York. So I, I, I like the fact that Trump just kinda stood up to him, but did it in a very casual way. And then pointed out, say, look, man, there's an awful lot of money going to New York. You wanna mess with this? But I think he want, Mad Manny wants the disorder that's gonna come out of that.

• 1:13:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Your thoughts on this?

• 1:13:30Adam Sosnick?

  Me? Oh, yeah. Uh, I think if I could give any advice to Donald Trump, I would stay the hell out of this election. Because, um, within New York City, clearly, uh, they're not a big fan of Trump. Uh, they do have TDS. Otherwise, they wouldn't be putting this democratic socialist slash communist slash jihadist slash ismist up for the candidate of the Democratic Party in New York City. So in my opinion, Trump, stay out of this thing. It's gonna be a one-on-one battle between Mondani and most likely Eric Adams. I also think Cuomo, sayonara, buddy. You had your chance. Get the hell out of this race. If this is a two-person race, um, Eric Adams does have a chance, the incumbent mayor of New York.

• 1:14:12Adam Sosnick?

  Um, if there's multiple people competing, get ready for Mondani to be the mayor of New York City. The juxtaposition of a democratic socialist jihadist immigrant mayor coming into the heart of capitalism, in the heart of America, in the heart of Wall Street, governing, using terms like, I just want economic justice, right? People over profits. We're just gonna seize the means of production. Uh, you know, just like Karl Marx recommended. Nobody needs that. Much. We don't need billionaires. Hey, uh, Mr. Mayor, uh, New York City has the most billionaires in the world. Ah, don't worry about that. So we're gonna see what happens here, but all spotlight is gonna be on what happens with Eric Adams and the rest of these candidates against this guy.

• 1:14:54Speaker 05

  Well, first, I, I, I picked up really, really quick on how he just said Donald Trump. He doesn't address him as president. He doesn't, you know, show any, any type of respect for the office, which whatever that's he, he could do whatever he wants. But the fact that he is openly saying, I am not, he said he's gonna block ICE from doing their job. So he's basically saying he's in a pledge to harbor, harbor illegals, that the city has already been going downhill because of the whole sanctuary city nonsense. I also think, uh, and by the way, Cuomo, what, what, what's Andrew Cuomo, uh, polling at right now, Pat? He's at what, four, he's the lowest percentage? He's just gonna run interference, which is gonna help, uh, Mamdani any even more. If he had any decency, any sense,

• 1:15:36Speaker 05

  get the hell out of the race, keep, let it get down to him and, and Adams, which I can't even believe that it's gonna be down to, you know, the lesser of the two evils, which I already hate that freaking saying, but you know what? Let them, let, like I said before, let him win. He, he, dude, he seems like he's going to be the, the favorite. Let him do it. And then I want him, when ICE comes to get illegals, try to block them and then put his ass and arrest his ass. That's what I want to happen. He's talking all that tough shit right now, but when it comes down to it, do it when you're in and we're gonna see what's gonna happen. Cause listen, he's gonna win. Adams, they're not gonna go for Adams. That's the future is that guy right there. And just the way that you heard him speak, eloquent and breaking everything down. I wish he wrapped it. I would have enjoyed it more, but this is it. Yeah.

• 1:16:18Tom Ellsworth?

  This week he was talking about buses a lot, talking about transportation, public transportation. Who in history said, you vote for me, I'll make the trains run on time? Yeah, that was, uh, in Italy. Benito Mussolini. It was a very simple thing. You people don't have what you need. I'll make the trains run on time. And they elected a man who would partner with Hitler. Great.

• 1:16:42Patrick Bet-David?

  But, I mean, look, I'm not going as far as this guy's gonna partner with Hitler. And resurrect him or do something like that.

• 1:16:48Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm talking about the people that are reacting to this.

• 1:16:51Patrick Bet-David?

  If you're going into like AI is gonna find a way to resurrect Hitler and you're going that dark Tom, I'm not going that area right now with you. Just want you to know this, I'm not going that far, that's a little extreme position. But, no, I know fully what you're saying and you're right because God knows who he can partner up with. Do you know if it's legal for the US government to denaturalize a US citizen? Do you know if it's legal to do so?

• 1:17:18Tom Ellsworth?

  I, I think there are, didn't Ethel and Julius Rosenberg kind of subject to some of that? The atomic spy case?

• 1:17:27Speaker 05

  You showed me, so I don't want to say anything.

• 1:17:29Patrick Bet-David?

  It is legal.

• 1:17:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:17:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, to denaturalize a US citizen. But only for specific reasons. So now let's see what that is. Go a little bit lower, Rob. Legal grounds for it. This is the, breaks down exactly what's there. Fraud or misrepresentation, okay, that's not gonna be the case here. Legal procurement, if the person wasn't actually eligible for naturalization. Membership in subservice groups, okay? If the person joins a group like the Communist Party.

• 1:17:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh-oh.

• 1:18:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Like the Communist Party. Or terrorist organization within five years of becoming a citizen. Or military dissonance, if a person gained citizenship through military and is later disowned or discharged before serving honorably for five years. Their citizenship can be revoked. Now, was this guy born in the States? Was Mamdani born in the States?

• 1:18:21Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I think he was born in Sudan or Uganda or something.

• 1:18:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Where was Mamdani born?

• 1:18:25Speaker 05

  I thought he was Asian.

• 1:18:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, he was born in Kampala, Uganda, okay. So, there you have it. The, the, the reality of it is, he has the ability, if he wanted to, to be able to do something with Mamdani. I don't think he should. I don't think he should because if you thought George Floyd was a hero, this guy will be on the cover of every single magazine around the world that will turn him into a Nelson Mandela type of a figure if they do something like that. But, long term, here's a crazy thought for you. Long term, I think...

• 1:19:07Patrick Bet-David?

  A part of where if if somebody is here and if you truly want to protect the Constitution, what America was founded on, you don't want it to happen to what's going on with UK. They're begging people to have kids. There's a story that came out saying the UK government is begging for people to have kids. I don't know what the so there it is right there. That's look at this one here. It says UK government urges young people to have more children amid plummeting birth rates. Go a little bit lower, Rob. Plummeting birth rates. Okay, not the I don't care about the feet, Rob. Go a little bit lower if you could. He's trying to see if you tickle the feet, you get pregnant. Zoom in right there, Rob. The latest figures from the Office of National Statistics showed in 2023, British fertility

• 1:19:51Patrick Bet-David?

  rate dropped to 1.44. You know how scary that is? A record since the government began tracking this in 38 and far below the replacement level of 2.1. We know what the government says? Who cares? We're gonna just invite more people from crazy countries and allow as many Muslims and Islam and people to send them as many migrants that want to come here. Send them. We're gonna make it up for that part. Where am I going with this? If America is gonna be able to protect itself long term from people like Mamdani running for office, I don't I don't think that needs to be possible. The guy's got a pure like the language is all communism. I don't think that would be possible. But at the same time, well, I don't think anything's gonna happen to the guy. I think the guy's gonna

• 1:20:33Patrick Bet-David?

  get elected and the guy's gonna cause some damage to New York and a lot of people are gonna move to Florida and they could potentially cause Florida to be purple again instead of being where it's at right now. I think that's what could end up happening. Adam, final thoughts before I go to the next story.

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• 1:21:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I'm so glad that you pulled that up. Can we just show that one more time? What was the sort of the exclusionary part? What was the? It said that you can be denaturalized. Rob, can I see that one more time just before I make my point? It says, "A person can actually be eligible for naturalization." Where was it?

• 1:22:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay. If a person has joined a group like the Communist Party or a terrorist organization within five years of becoming a citizen. I'm so glad you found that PBD because, you know, he does have what's known as an out. I'm not a communist. I'm just a democratic socialist, guys. It's not a big deal. I'm not a terrorist. I support Hamas, but they're freedom fighters, guys. Come on. What are we talking about here? River to the sea, no big deal. So I do agree that he should have to win at the ballot box. I don't think there should be a referee involved in the middle of basically eliminating this guy from the race. But you bring up a good point with the kids. So I think it was Gaddafi fact-checked this, who said, "Listen, you guys in the West, you know, we're going to slowly take over."

• 1:22:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Why? Because they're going to, they're going to come from the women's wombs of Islam. Fact-checked that statement from Gaddafi. Now you have Muslims having way more kids than Christians. So say what you want to say. America is a Christian country. It's a Christian country. I'm a Jew saying this. I'm so glad I live in America, in a Christian country. Yeah, sure, it was based on Judeo-Christian values. But we're going to run into a clash of cultures here when we start to see full-on Islamic jihadist-type governing officials in major metropolitan cities. It's already happening in Minnesota. We see what's going on in Dearborn. It's about to happen in New York. We're seeing in Texas.

• 1:23:30Tom Ellsworth?

  At some point, America's going to have to take a look at Europe and be like, "Damn, Brussels just got taken over." They're praying five times a day in London. They're doing this whole thing. And some, in my opinion, some red-blooded Americans are going to say, "Hold on here, buddy." It's John Wayne country, okay? We're America here. We're a Christian country. You can get aboard, you can assimilate, but a lot of times, these people want to come in and populate and dominate. And in my opinion, we're heading towards a clash of cultures and a clash of civilization. And we're going to see it here, right in America, because Europe did not stop it. And we'll see what happens.

• 1:24:08Patrick Bet-David?

  We're learning a lot about you today. We're learning that you're big fans of grandma's and you're

• 1:24:13Tom Ellsworth?

  John Wayne.

• 1:24:14Patrick Bet-David?

  A big supporter of Christians. And, you know, if you're ready for it, if you want to repeat after me, Lord, I ask you that you open your heart to your truth and hold hands with all the people around you. And if you want to accept Jesus Christ as your Savior, Adam, we will receive you. We will receive you. I think there's going to be a lot of regulation and, but we'll put in a good word.

• 1:24:35Tom Ellsworth?

  And John Wayne. And that's a big la-hai to you, partner. We're the OG Christians of Jews.

• 1:24:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it's funny. All right, so let's go to the, to the next story here of a trans U Penn swimmer, Leah Thomas.

• 1:24:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Willie Boy.

• 1:24:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Will be stripped of his titles after university bans, bends the knee to Trump's administration. Rob, is this the story? Yes, this is Education Secretary Linda McMahon explaining what Penn State has agreed to. Go for it.

• 1:25:08Adam Sosnick?

  Thanks to President Trump and the Trump administration, what he campaigned on, what he actually signed an executive order on, which was that men will not be able to compete in women's sports, was acknowledged by the University of Pennsylvania. We've signed an agreement with them and we hope that that agreement is going to be a template for other universities who acknowledge that there is no room for men in women's sports, not only during the competition, but also in the locker room and other intimate spaces where these women were required to be with males who changed in front of them. So. This is a big deal. The university is apologizing. It is taking away the titles

• 1:25:50Adam Sosnick?

  that were incorrectly given to men. I had stated that it will not have anything on its website, other than the fact that they are complying with Title IX. We are just very pleased with the outcome that we had today. It's an utter triumph for President Trump and for the administration, but mostly for the women and girls who will come behind the Riley Games and the Paula Scanons and others.

• 1:26:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Vinny, thoughts?

• 1:26:16Speaker 05

  I would be so pissed off. Now, now, what, you're gonna mail me my medals? After all this shit that you've done, all the stuff that you guys have, like, how many girls had had to go up against this dude, this dude, William, because that's his freaking name, William Thomas, okay? Their lives are altered, their lives, you know, in Back to the Future, the space-time continuum, their life is altered because America was in a place where they're like, no, you have to let him live his freedom with his testicles in the pool with women, okay? Yes, I'm happy that it's about time, but let's call it what it is, okay? He's a mediocre swimmer at best, ranked 400. Then he's like, oh, I'm a girl, and kicked the shit out of everybody, broke all the records, he's a freaking coward. Now

• 1:26:59Speaker 05

  what? It takes Trump to come in, to wake everybody up, and fix it? Not the NCAA, not the Ivy League, not the media, they all bent the knee, and then Trump has to force their hand? Like, it's unbelievable that it has to come to a point where a different guy has to come in and say, guys, women play with women, men play with men, okay? And then she's Education Secretary Lyndon McMahon, right? She announced that they're gonna be sending him these apologies. To hell with the apology letter, okay? Send them their records back, send them their medals, okay, and then the scholarships. And then as for Will, good old William Thomas, I would make him publicly hand over every trophy he stole live on TV, just like this photo where we have to see his ass standing there with this

• 1:27:42Speaker 05

  freaking girl. Look at that girl's face on the right. Swam her whole life to get to this point, and look at this dude, just chilling on-

• 1:27:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Hold on, Vinny, I have a question for you.

• 1:27:50Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:27:51Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm not too familiar with the story. Pull up this picture one more time?

• 1:27:53Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:27:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Which one of these three people was the guy?

• 1:27:57Speaker 05

  Um, if you look, Adam, look.

• 1:27:59Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm having a hard time figuring out which one of these three people.

• 1:28:02Speaker 05

  Look.

• 1:28:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Maybe the six foot six dude.

• 1:28:04Speaker 05

  Adam, look left.

• 1:28:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Is it the short stubby one on the left?

• 1:28:07Speaker 05

  Adam, look for the bulge on the left.

• 1:28:08Tom Ellsworth?

  On the right with the Adam's apple in the big package.

• 1:28:10Speaker 05

  Look for the guy that when he was backstroking, it looked like something, there was an apple floating.

• 1:28:13Tom Ellsworth?

  There was a periscope. It looked like a shark, like a shark fin hanging out?

• 1:28:16Speaker 05

  Yeah, but I wouldn't make him, yeah, just.

• 1:28:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, yeah, if that isn't true, I don't know. If that truly is a man, I actually condone this decision. But it might actually be a woman still. I don't know. What is a woman these days?

• 1:28:28Speaker 05

  Well, I would say, make him, I want to see this live. Hand over every trophy you stole live on TV. Let the world.

• 1:28:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Why are you misgendering this guy?

• 1:28:36Speaker 05

  I don't, because, and I love that you said that.

• 1:28:38Tom Ellsworth?

  You're a bigot.

• 1:28:39Speaker 05

  Because remember five years ago?

• 1:28:40Tom Ellsworth?

  He misgendered himself and the jig is up.

• 1:28:42Speaker 05

  Five years ago, if I was saying this.

• 1:28:43Patrick Bet-David?

  What is up?

• 1:28:44Speaker 05

  The jig is.

• 1:28:44Tom Ellsworth?

  Still might be identifying as a woman.

• 1:28:46Speaker 05

  Yeah, what'd you say?

• 1:28:48Tom Ellsworth?

  He misgendered himself.

• 1:28:50Patrick Bet-David?

  The what is up?

• 1:28:52Tom Ellsworth?

  The jig is up.

• 1:28:53Speaker 05

  It's a long.

• 1:28:53Patrick Bet-David?

  The jig is up.

• 1:28:54Tom Ellsworth?

  The jig is up!

• 1:28:55Speaker 05

  Yeah, but, but, but you know, you know why this pisses me off a lot? Because there was a time, there was a time where, like, not that long ago, five, six years ago, if we spoke like this, YouTube would take this down. YouTube would come after us and people would.

• 1:29:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Because Tom said the jig is up.

• 1:29:10Speaker 05

  Because Tom said the jig is up, not because of this freaking dude with his testicles.

• 1:29:13Patrick Bet-David?

  What does it mean the jig is up?

• 1:29:15Tom Ellsworth?

  I think there's, I think there's one point I want to make in here.

• 1:29:17Speaker 05

  Get jiggy with it, Tom.

• 1:29:18Tom Ellsworth?

  And that is, and that is, and I've been waiting for two minutes to say this.

• 1:29:23Speaker 05

  Go for it.

• 1:29:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Behind the scenes, with everything else that's going on, the Ivy League and everybody couldn't get their voice into the media right now because there's too much other things going on. And behind the scenes, on this issue, Donald Trump has the Ivy League by the balls that.

• 1:29:41Speaker 05

  That Leah Thomas has.

• 1:29:43Tom Ellsworth?

  He absolutely has them by the balls because they pulled back funding, they pulled back support for these research that they did.

• 1:29:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:29:51Tom Ellsworth?

  And maybe he stepped on their air hose, which is money that just flows through senators that are alumni and everything, back to the Ivy League. It's a slush fund that goes to private, you know, especially elite. And Donald Trump threatened to step on that air hose permanently and he got people to pull back on it. First on, on things like protest and so that all students on campus could feel safe when they weren't protecting Jewish students and they're allowing violent Palestinian protests, except the University of Alabama, which they did a really good job of it, that said, you know, these frat rats here want to kick your ass and we get off work at about seven. So if we cops, that's what they told them. So the cops said, if we were to leave here and prevent these, these frat guys from walking across the quad here

• 1:30:35Tom Ellsworth?

  to kill you, you're gonna have a really, really rough evening. So maybe you just want to disband and go home. That's what the University of Alabama told the protesters. But absolutely, President, you know what this is called? Keeping yet another promise by Donald Trump that said, I'm gonna come into office and I'm gonna handle this. And you know what? I bet we're gonna see Riley Gaines in the Oval Office getting that wooden, very simple, but very meaningful NCAA plaque for her championship. I think that's the next step we're gonna see. And you know what? I think it did take too long to get justice. And I think you're right. And I'm with your emotion. But you know what? Trump is keeping a promise. And step one, the wrong guy is giving up his trophy and the right girl was

• 1:31:18Tom Ellsworth?

  sitting there on Fox, smiling and beaming because after all that she's been through, Riley Gaines, God bless you for keeping your tenacity of it. Justice is about to be served. Yeah, well, respect and shout out to Riley Gaines. Hopefully the justice will serve her. I'm not sure if we have this, but I think that Leah Thomas actually responded. I don't know if it was her or him or her representative. Rob, do you have that clip of her responding to this?

• 1:31:43Speaker 05

  It's still a guy. Adam, you're

• 1:31:45Speaker 00

  Excuse me, sir, there's a young man in here. Excuse me, it's ma'am. It is ma'am.

• 1:31:52Patrick Bet-David?

  I can call the police if you'd like me to.

• 1:31:54Speaker 05

  That's not Leah Thomas.

• 1:31:56Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay, that might be her representative. My bad. Can you, can you tell me that?

• 1:31:59Speaker 05

  That's not him.

• 1:32:00Tom Ellsworth?

  What?

• 1:32:07Speaker 05

  I guess she said both of you guys. Right beforehand, you fucking said, sir. Oh my god. Motherfucker, take it outside.

• 1:32:15Tom Ellsworth?

  That's known as a his he fit.

• 1:32:18Speaker 05

  Yo, these dudes are tripping.

• 1:32:19Tom Ellsworth?

  This is his he fit.

• 1:32:22Speaker 05

  He's a GameStop.

• 1:32:22Tom Ellsworth?

  That's not very ladylike, sir.

• 1:32:23Speaker 05

  What kind of woman is gonna be a GameStop?

• 1:32:26Tom Ellsworth?

  I need my doll on aisle three.

• 1:32:28Speaker 05

  It's a man.

• 1:32:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Good to see that woman removing her. Well, by the way, these stories get crazy. I'm not gonna read all of them for you, but, you know, trans inmate back in male prison, years after allegedly raping female cellmate. This is Daily Caller. There's so many stories like this, we're not gonna get into it. We're gonna skip to the next story here of what's going on. So, California, voters want more action on housing. Poll finds, okay, and this is from Politico. So what do they mean they want more action when it comes down to housing? So, a University of California Irvine School of Social Ecology poll found that 70% registered California voters consider the state's housing shortage a major funding

• 1:33:11Patrick Bet-David?

  priority with 33% of likely voters naming housing as a top issue, nearly twice as many as school of, twice as many as those prioritizing healthcare, per the survey shared with Politico. John Gould, the dean of the School of Social Ecology, stated, "The lack of affordability of housing is a state continues to vex most Californians, and they don't feel like it's being addressed." The poll, conducted before Governor Newsom and state lawmakers, approved a plan to accelerate housing construction by exempting most urban projects from environmental reviews, reflects ongoing voter frustration with California's affordability crisis, which

• 1:33:50Patrick Bet-David?

  has worsened homelessness and driven residents to more affordable Sunbelt states. Tom, thoughts on the story?

• 1:33:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Do you know how many houses the state of California believes it needs to build? And by the way, this is a correct analysis they've done, and I just use California and correct in the same sentence. I apologize if I offended anyone. California believes they need to build 2.5 million more homes. And this is-

• 1:34:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Everything from a 1,000 square foot, one bedroom apartment for a couple or a person, to a 1,400 square foot apartment, two bedroom, two bath, for a small family, to condos, townhouses, you know, high density, more higher density, uh, single family units. They believe they need 2.5 million more homes today. And now they're saying, "Oh, you know what we're gonna do? We're, we're gonna skip environmental reviews." You know what that means? That means they're gonna ha- stop having the phony inspectors that would go out to Palisades that said, "We need to do a coastal environmental impact study before we can allow you to rebuild your home, because we didn't want your home here on the coast in the first place."

• 1:35:00Tom Ellsworth?

  And you remember what people were saying, whether they were wealthy people or not, saying, "If that house burns down, they won't be able to build the one next to it for, rebuild it for five years, because of coastal commission and other things." So now California, finally looking in the mirror and going, you know, "All this permitting and all this other stuff we've got and all these phony environmental studies, gosh, um, maybe we should ha- hang back on some of that, so that allows developers to build this, because we need 2.5 million houses, and it's gonna take a hell of a long time to do with it." So Nick, guess what? The California voters are saying, "You moved a lot of illegals in here that squeezed out lower, and then you built a multimillion dollar condo for the illegals in downtown LA that

• 1:35:44Tom Ellsworth?

  they trashed over the course of four months." You don't say. No, wow, shocking. Give somebody something for free, they didn't value it. Well, weird. That's odd. Never heard that before. You know, you know, a child has to pay, a child saves money all summer to buy themselves a skateboard, they took better care of it than the one you just gave them free, because they lost the first one, because they were irresponsible. What a freaking shock this is. So PBD, the voters are now surfacing this as number one. And you know what one of the reasons that these, uh, affordability is coming to number one, uh, on housing? Is because, on a national level, immigration has slipped to like, number three or four in polls. If you ask voters right now, "What's number one for you?", guess what? Housing's all the way up, and guess what?

• 1:36:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Immigration and the border are down like number four or five. You know why? Because the president's fixed that part and has put a dent in it. Right now, you've got Californians, Pat, they're screaming for new leadership. And they're screaming in the form of, man, we, we, we need more houses right now.

• 1:36:46Speaker 05

  They're not gonna get that, Tom, that leadership, because, Pat, question. If they need 3.5 million, what is the realistic number that they're gonna get in 2020? Like, what's the, they need to build 3.5 million in 2025? It's already, we're already in four, how many months?

• 1:37:00Tom Ellsworth?

  No, the study is they need two and a half right now.

• 1:37:04Speaker 05

  Then, how's that gonna happen?

• 1:37:06Tom Ellsworth?

  It's not.

• 1:37:06Speaker 05

  A magic?

• 1:37:07Tom Ellsworth?

  And that's where you have, you have multiple families living in apartments and things like this.

• 1:37:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you know what all the fires that happened in California, Palisades? Roughly 16,000 homes and structures were burned down, okay? Of those, you know what percentage right now are living in RVs on their properties? What percentage are living in RVs in regular places? 70% right now, give or take. Of the money that came to them, do you know of all the 16 homes, 16,000 homes and structures? Do you know how many have been rebuilt so far? Six.

• 1:37:39Speaker 05

  Out of 16,000?

• 1:37:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Six. And outside of that, you ready for the next one? Of the six that we're talking about? They are saying that if the homes are not rebuilt within three years, they're out. When it comes down to permits, this is the craziest number out of everything that we're talking about. When it comes down to permits, do you know how many people? Fires happen when, Rob, when, when was the exact date for fires? Can we find out when the exact fires were in California? Uh, uh, uh, it's been five months, it's been six months, when was the fires? January, I wanna say, right? Uh, what was the exact dates that we were looking at? This, it was, let's say, right before election is what it was, or right after election?

• 1:38:20Patrick Bet-David?

  January 31st, okay, January 7th is when it started, and it was finally contained, January 31st. Do you know what percentage of the people that have been wanting to rebuild their homes got permits? What percentage you think have gotten permits?

• 1:38:33Speaker 05

  2%.

• 1:38:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Fourteen percent. Eighty-six percent have no permits. So you know how Newsom is going? I'm gonna sue Fox News for seven hundred and eighty-seven million dollars. President Trump is, hey, brother, Mr. Newsom, Gavin Newsom, Governor Newsom, you realize all those homes that were burned, all the structures, everybody? Only fourteen percent have permits? Only six have been rebuilt? You realize a couple billion dollars was given to Trump? These are people that are living in RVs? You realize how embarrassing that is, how terrible? No one's talking about that. So you want to talk about building homes? Three and a half million of them? If of the homes that were burned, and we're only talking sixteen thousand, watch this here.

• 1:39:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Eh eh, Adam, eh eh, Vinnie, Tom is saying that they need to build three and two and a half million homes, right? Is what they need today. Today.

• 1:39:25Patrick Bet-David?

  How capable is a state of accelerating the process of building two and a half million homes? When a fire happened in Palisades and sixteen thousand homes and structures were torn down, destroyed? Only six have been rebuilt? And only fourteen percent have gotten permits? With that kind of a regulatory environment, how long you think it's gonna take California to be able to build those homes? Now, I mean, thi- thi- this state is in shambles.

• 1:39:55Patrick Bet-David?

  The speed of execution is insane. To Trump at the top is moving like this. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. State of California is just keep trying to get to the next campaign to be on the limelight. Where Tom says it best, I think Newsom is deep down inside worried because the Democrats have chosen Pritzker over him. Because the moment he tried to show that he's a little bit more on the center, the moment he went there, they're like, uh.

• 1:40:22Patrick Bet-David?

  The moment he went center, you know who he lost? He lost the left and the right because he went to the center, had a bunch of these conservatives on his show to act like, yeah, you know, Democrats, we did mess up. And so Republicans are like, whoa. Maybe he's being a little bit reasonable. The center's like, maybe he's being a little bit reasonable. And then he went boom, back to the left. Guess what he said? The left can't trust you, the right can't trust you because it's all theatrics. You're just trying to get ready for your twenty twenty-eight election. You know what everybody realized? Neither the left or the right trust you, period. So the only thing you have left is to allow the puppet masters on your political party to tell you what they want you to do. That's all you got left. Try it, because the amount of problems your state has and the speed of execution is so

• 1:41:04Patrick Bet-David?

  slow, people are not going to stay in your state. Adam, any thoughts on this before we go to the next story?

• 1:41:11Adam Sosnick?

  I do. There was an article from Tuesday. I don't know if Rob could pull it. Do you have that article about the housing crisis in the major metros, Rob? Do you have that?

• 1:41:17Speaker 05

  I do.

• 1:41:19Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, perfect. This was an article from Tuesday that actually I'm glad we're commenting on. It talks about how basically to live in America, it's been completely unaffordable in 47 of the 50 major metro areas. So when you're doing your monthly budget, which I encourage everybody to do, which is you take your income and you minus your expenses and then you have your net savings each month. Hopefully you're saving that money. You're gonna have a major problem doing that budget in one city in particular, and that city is of course LA. So what they say, general rule, when you're doing your housing costs, which is your biggest part of your budget, something called the 30% rule. Does it say that in the article by any chance? About how 30% of your monthly income should go

• 1:42:02Adam Sosnick?

  towards housing. Here's the problem that you're gonna run into. 47 of the 50 top metro areas, people are spending more than the 30%. The only cities that it costs less are Pittsburgh, Detroit, and St. Louis, which is basically hovering around 27 to 29%. But here's where it gets good. In New York, people are paying 67% of their total budget towards their housing. Okay, so that's more than double. In Boston, it's 64%. So a little bit less than double. LA, you ready for this? Make this make sense to me. 104% goes towards housing. You're

• 1:42:43Adam Sosnick?

  supposed to be at 30, okay? Most cities nationwide are averaging 45%. So there's a 15% delta. In big cities like Boston and New York, you're at 66, 67%. In LA, you have to spend 104% of your total budget on housing.

• 1:43:03Tom Ellsworth?

  How do you live? And by the way, that's not because it's beautiful and there's the demand to live there. It's because there's a supply shortage. And just like toilet paper was a dollar a roll at Costco during the early part of COVID, when all the shortage happened, remember that, Adam? You people going in there buying the big pack of toilet paper and it was very expensive. It's a supply shortage. It's not because they love the beach and the weather, or they love the regulatory environment, or the traffic, or the lack of jobs, or the, I'll stop with the list, or the high insurance, or no insurance. It's because there's no homes to buy. And those that are buying it are bid the price up, and that's where the value is. Well, everything's always a supply and demand problem, right? Obviously, you're right here, but they also have a math problem.

• 1:43:46Tom Ellsworth?

  It's just not adding up, and they have an affordability problem, and a cost of living problem. LA, I continue to remind you, show me a good story that's coming out of California these days. I don't know. I'll wait. This is why I live in Florida.

• 1:43:57Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, well, let's go to another story, which is not necessarily good news for LA. New Jersey poised to soon become the top three film destination, says the CEO. Now, in the history of this, if you're familiar with it, I did a video on this about a year and a half, two years ago, about the fact that the headquarters, Hollywood, used to be in New Jersey, and Thomas Edison ran it. And now, it looks like it's going back to New Jersey. New Jersey film industry has surged since Governor Phil Murphy signed a film and digital media tax credit in 2018, with 547 projects filmed in 2023, generating $592 million,

• 1:44:37Patrick Bet-David?

  and up from $67 million in 2017, per variety, prompting Tim Solomon, CEO of New Jersey Economic Development Authority to state, film and TV started in New Jersey way back in the day, under Thomas Edison, in Fort Lee, New Jersey. We were Hollywood before there was a Hollywood. He's right. We're bringing ourselves back to the top of the pack with major investments, because we see a huge economic opportunity here. Major studio developments, including Netflix's $1 billion, half a million square foot production studio at Fort One Mouth, announced in May, Lionsgate's 300,000 square foot facility in Newark, announced in 2022, and 1888 Studios 1.6 million square feet space.

• 1:45:21Patrick Bet-David?

  And Bayon are rare, set to boost real local economies. Tom, thoughts on this story?

• 1:45:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Guess what?

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• 1:46:25Tom Ellsworth?

  New Jersey saw an opportunity to say, "We live in the shadow of New York. We need economic incentives." You know what? There's a lot of actors and actresses that are up in New York. There's a lot of good people here in New Jersey that would like jobs. Tell you what, what if we gave a tax credit to these people because we're not blue, we're kind of light blue? And by the way, I believe the answer is 4.5 points, was New Jersey was not far off from going red in the last election? And so I think New Jersey just spoke up and said, "Hey, guys, tell you what, here's an economic, you employ a bunch of people, we'll give you some economic incentives, like

• 1:47:06Tom Ellsworth?

  some startup cost, and we're going to call it the Film and Digital Media Tax Credit." And guess what? 547 projects! That's huge. That's like 547 little startup projects that are out there. And you know what? And guess, this is where people that are operators that join government and get it done. And I'm going to, I don't even know this guy, but I read about what he's been saying and doing, and it feels like I agree with him. Tim Sullivan, the CEO of the New Jersey Economic Development Authority. And when you have those people that have the It's like, who's in your ear? Is it a bunch of crazy liberals wanting to give away free crap with a mayor coming into New York? Or is it people that are whispering in your ear and saying,

• 1:47:50Tom Ellsworth?

  "Hey, maybe we should do this incentive, Mr. Governor. Maybe we should do this." And the Economic Development Office here, "We could bring this stuff here, it's gonna make jobs for people in New Jersey." And by the way, this is a growth orientation. This is the same thinking that Trump has on a national level. If we get growth and more people paying the tax that there is today, and buying groceries and using cars and doing all those things in our city, and getting haircuts and all that kind of stuff, guess what? They're part of the local economy. We can help grow New Jersey without having to tax during the exodus, which is the current California plan or the Chicago plan. And this is a sign of when an operator gets in the ear of a governor,

• 1:48:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Phil Murphy, and something gets done to help things grow, jobs happen, and good things happen. And the loser is California and Hollywood. And it is so ironic that in the annals of history where Thomas Edison was, we're back where we started.

• 1:48:49Patrick Bet-David?

  It's pretty wild when you see this happening. But the great thing about competition is the fact that it's gonna end up taking place. Meaning, if you're able to produce a better product to attract the people coming to you, it doesn't matter where, there's people gonna come to you. Adam, your thoughts on the story?

• 1:49:03Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, well, I remember we talked about it. When did you film that episode, PBD?

• 1:49:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Probably a year and a half ago.

• 1:49:08Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, I remember that. And so this would have been in early 1900s, this is how Hollywood kinda got started. You tell me if I'm right or wrong. I think it was Thomas Edison was the man, right? And he was in New Jersey. And that was the original Hollywood. And he had essentially a monopoly on what could not be done. So then you had all these people that were like, "Well, I can't do what I wanna do. I can't use the equipment that I wanna use. I wanna do all these things." But good old Thomas Edison is basically telling us everything. He controls everything, you know? So people don't like control, so they moved out west. Now, a lot of these people that moved out west that started Hollywood happened to be Jews. I don't know if you know this, but Jews have...

• 1:49:49Tom Ellsworth?

  happen to be kinda good at writing, kinda good at banking, kinda good at finance, kinda good at telling jokes. I know, I know it's hard to hear, guys. I know, but they were the ones that moved and took the risk and disrupted the original Hollywood and moved out to California. And they were the ones that started and founded, I think it was Warner Brothers, Paramount Studios, Columbia Pictures, MGM. That's why we know while Jews run Hollywood, well, they do. Because they started Hollywood. So, uh, that's sort of the story that I recall. I thought we were talking about New Jersey, so let's get back to that. That's true.

• 1:50:24Patrick Bet-David?

  That was just Adam.

• 1:50:25Speaker 05

  That was a whole.

• 1:50:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Shout out to his.

• 1:50:27Speaker 05

  New Jersey?

• 1:50:27Tom Ellsworth?

  But was any of that false? Did I mispronounce that?

• 1:50:29Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no. No one's saying that any of that is false. It's the challenges now. Sometimes when you get too much power in an industry like they did in Hollywood, and then the state thinks they're gonna own it forever and they're never gonna leave. And they start abusing those privileges and the gratitude of having Hollywood, the creative guys being there. Other states, there's forty-nine other states that will be more than happy to accept them. Some states are saying, by the way, you know, some states had the opportunity to do the same thing as well. They didn't do it. You know why? They're like, we actually don't want Hollywood here. We actually don't want you to come to us. Go to Atlanta, go to New Jersey, go to Austin. Please don't come here. Please do not come here because the track record shows that the moment Hollywood moves to a certain city or state,

• 1:51:14Patrick Bet-David?

  with the way they vote, five, ten, fifteen, twenty, thirty, forty years from now, they destroy that great state. So we'll see what's gonna happen with New Jersey, but as of right now.

• 1:51:22Tom Ellsworth?

  You're absolutely right, but you know, I remember a time when Hollywood, California, Arnold Schwarzenegger, who was a California Republican, was the, um, the person running the show. He was Hollywood. Yes, Hollywood does play a role here, but woke politics, that's Gavin Newsom. That's Pelosi. That's a lot of people in California. There's nothing necessarily to do with Hollywood. Silicon Valley wasn't around when Hollywood basically was getting started. Yes, Hollywood plays a role, but to. Blame everything on Hollywood would be a disservice to how far left the Democratic Party has gone.

• 1:51:54Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I said the politicians start owning and controlling Hollywood. They abuse, but still other states. Typically, folks who are in the entertainment business. Yeah, like for example, we just watched a shitty movie. Okay, it was called Jurassic Park, whatever the new Jurassic Park movie it came out. Ree, whatever the hell. It's so funny, literally right before going to watch this Jurassic World movie. I told the guys, I've never seen a Jurassic Park movie I've not liked. I've never. I like every one of them except this one. I give this a two. It was absolutely horrible. The acting sucked. Uh, it just wasn't good. And to counter that with the Formula One movie, which what is a Formula One movie with Brad Pitt?

• 1:52:35Tom Ellsworth?

  F1, the movie.

• 1:52:36Patrick Bet-David?

  It was awesome. I gave it a good seven and a half. It's, it almost was as if Brad Pitt was talking about his life, even though he's not in race. And you know, if you replace Formula One with Hollywood. It was Brad Pitt's, um, some of the stuff, I, I just didn't feel like he was acting. I really liked the actors in the F1 movie. But you know, in this movie Jurassic World, they're trying to get these three different things that's going to cure cancer, right? And the one guy's like, you could tell he went to Berkeley in the movie. He's like, why, why don't we not sell this for tens of millions of dollars? Why don't we just open source it and give it to everybody? Everybody so they can, they can just have it. And they're not just do the right thing. That's what we're gonna do. We're just gonna give it to everybody for free.

• 1:53:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Scarlett Johansson made fifteen million dollars. Okay, doing the movie. Why don't you do the movie for free Scarlett? Why don't you guys go do this movie for free? How much did they pay you? You know, how, how much did they pay you for what it is? So those ideologies move to the state that they want to live in. And that is why some states that could have easily made the bid to attract Hollywood to their cities and states are like, no. This is definitely not a community we want in our state. Let it go to a different state. We want job creators coming to our state. And by the way, they also have a good argument.

• 1:53:51Tom Ellsworth?

  You wouldn't recommend the movie, PBD?

• 1:53:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Jurassic world, absolutely. I wouldn't even recommend it when it comes on DVD or when it comes on to Apple TV or whatever you want to call it. I wouldn't.

• 1:54:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Acting was no good?

• 1:54:03Patrick Bet-David?

  I wouldn't waste two hours of my 13 minutes of doing that. Go, go watch reruns of Baby Shark video. Watch that Baby Shark video 60 times. It's a two-minute video. You will get more value from it than watching this movie for freaking two hours and 13 minutes. Waste of a movie.

• 1:54:20Tom Ellsworth?

  And you consider all that momentum in Hollywood and everything. It makes you respect people like, you know, Gary Sinise and Vince McMahon, who have always stood up to it.

• 1:54:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I just thought it was a horrible movie. I don't know if I said it.

• 1:54:32Tom Ellsworth?

  I thought the dinosaurs that acted in the first movie and the second movie were way better than this one.

• 1:54:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Believe it or not, as much as I remember being 14 years old watching the first Jurassic Park and I was blown away by it. This was horrible. Absolutely horrible is what it was. Anyways, let's go to the next story here. The next story I want to get into is with this alligator Alcatraz. Folks, if you haven't heard about this alligator Alcatraz, stark first photos from inside alligator Alcatraz has driven a lot of people insane, reveals bleak digs for up to 5,000 migrants is what they're building. Okay, is this it, Rob, that you're showing? Yes, sir. Okay, so each cell comes with an alligator pet. No, I'm just kidding with you. That would have been, can you imagine?

• 1:55:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Each cell is getting its own alligators. Like, hey, you gotta pet this guy. You know, studies have shown that 92% of people that pet an alligator lose an arm. By the way, again, this is hypotheticals, guys. We're joking. We're not being serious with you about these things. But President Trump toured the alligator Alcatraz migrant detention center in Florida Everglades on Tuesday. Rob, can you show physically where it's at? I want to show exactly where it's at physically. Like, if you try to escape, you're dead. Okay, this guy's gonna get you when you try to escape this place. Revealing rows of empty industrial metal bunks, beds and chainsaw machines, there's only one road leading

• 1:56:01Patrick Bet-David?

  in and there's only one way out. It's a one-way flight. And describing the facility as isolated and surrounded by dangerous wildlife and unforgiven terrain, Trump remarked. Rob, do you want to play the clip of the president?

• 1:56:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch this, folks.

• 1:56:16Speaker 05

  ...are tangled pretty hard in the 2024 election. You stand here now. Yeah, you stand here now as partners on this effort. How would you describe the relationship? And what future does Governor DeSantis have? I think it's a 10. Maybe 99, because there might be a couple of little wounds. Don't look at DeSantis, look at his face. I think we have a 10. We get along great.

• 1:56:38Adam Sosnick?

  Well, the, you know, the thing about it is, you know, I endorsed him immediately in January 2024. I raised his, one of his PACs, millions and millions of dollars. And obviously, we saved him a lot of money in Florida because Florida was a deep-red state. He didn't even have to do a rally in Florida, whereas 2016 and 20, this was like ground zero. And so, we've been really happy to do that. And then we've worked very well on this and other issues with Florida. You can call him at any time, and he wants to be helpful for governors. I mean, I can tell you that.

• 1:57:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, this doesn't have to do with Alligator Alcatraz, but...

• 1:57:15Speaker 05

  There's no way he's that tall, Pat.

• 1:57:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Who?

• 1:57:17Speaker 05

  Did you see how tall... Trump is really tall.

• 1:57:20Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, like, Trump has given him a bunch of kudos, and he's going into what he did for him. He just gave you a bunch of love. Just go back and edify him the way he edified you. But anyways, let me give you some stats on this facility here. Dubbed the Alligator Alcatraz, or the Gator Gitmo, built in eight days.

• 1:57:39Speaker 05

  Gator Gitmo, that's good.

• 1:57:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Per Florida Governor Ron DeSantis. One thing about Ron DeSantis, the guy gets shit done so quickly. It's freaking amazing. Featuring 200 security cameras, 28,000 feet of barbed wire, 400 security personnel, and 100 National Guard troops, with Trump humorously stating, "We're going to teach them how to run away from an alligator." Okay, if they escape from prison, and how to run away, don't run in a straight line. Run like this. He's so funny, like, he's trying to have fun with these guys. But a lot of people are saying, what did Joey Reid call it, Rob? Joey Reid called this place...

• 1:58:14Speaker 05

  I believe a concentration camp for brown people.

• 1:58:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, go ahead and play the clip, she's fantastic. And I will note that, you know, we've tried to forget about him, but Ron DeSantis is still Governor of Florida. He took the comfy couch hosts...

• 1:58:28Tom Ellsworth?

  On a tour of the concentration camp that he's building in Florida in order to round up people, brown people and throw them in a camp because he doesn't want them in Florida. Surprise, surprise, the economy of Florida is going to be severely harmed by rounding up brown people who, by the way, all over this country Latinos are afraid to go to work.

• 1:58:51Patrick Bet-David?

  How do you get to go at the highest level and work at a company like MSNBC when you say stuff like that?

• 1:58:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, guess what happens in first quarter of 2025, your show gets canceled because you have, because your opinions and your viewers and everything go away. Hey, Joy Reid, you're still technically employed because of what's called the rollout or the transition period of your agreement. How about you go to the border and go look at the Biden and Obama cages? Go down and look at theirs and then go look at this. And you know what? When I was in high school, we had to watch this movie. Movie was called Scared Straight and it was how the juvenile hall works and how county works and what can happen to you if you end up in county, which wasn't very good.

• 1:59:39Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, it's like, you know, I was assaulted in jail. Who did it? I don't know. It was behind me. So you, we had to watch this thing scared straight. And so now you look at this, we're not trying to make a hotel. We're making a detention center for people who have broken the law and we want to treat them humanely and humanely doesn't mean comfortable. It means humane. Give them personal sanitation, give them a bed, give them a place, give them air conditioning while we're shipping them back because they did something wrong because of what they did. And so, oh, this is a concentration camp. Yeah, there you go. Dog whistle and using the big words, trying to get people all upset, you know, you know,

• 2:00:22Tom Ellsworth?

  waiting to use the Holocaust words, waiting to use these big words to see if they can trigger people. Joy Reid, go look at both and objectively talk about it. You won't because you can't because your narrative won't let you.

• 2:00:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam?

• 2:00:35Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, so this Gator Gitmo, is that what they're calling it? Or? Gator. Alligator Alcatraz, it's interesting. Rob, I don't know if you can pull this up. If you've ever lived in South Florida, even in West Florida, you've driven across the Panhandle on Alligator Alley is what it's called, 595, right? When we went to Brayden, we did that drive, right, PBD? Dude, you're, there's nothing. There's nothing. It's a straight line across of nothingness. And if you want to get off and pet some alligators and go on a airboat, you can do that. But everyone who knows that makes that drive, you say, there's like two rest stops, there's like zero gas stations. Use the bathroom, make sure you have snacks, fill up your gas tank.

• 2:01:19Adam Sosnick?

  Because if you break down here on alligatorality, you might be gator bait. Now, what's interesting about this thing is it's not even on the main road, which nothing exists. It's like a half hour south off the road. Can you pull that up one more time, Rob? Yep. You pull that up and you gotta go even further south. Dude, this is the middle of nowhere. Nowheresville. Ain't nobody breaking out of this and ending, heading up back into a city. As far as Joy Reid in concentration camp, I'm so sick of, Trump is Hitler. It's Nazi Germany. A concentration camp was when innocent people were rounded up and starved, forced to work to death. And then there was that whole oven burning thing that the smell of human flesh

• 2:02:03Adam Sosnick?

  basically surrounded all of Germany and Poland for years to come. The comparison for illegal immigrants being housed in alligator alcatraz is such a disservice to any concentration camps that's ever existed, including whether it was the gulags in Russia or even in Ukraine. Anything that happened there is such a disservice. And it's such a just foolish notion that immigrants who are being housed in this Gitmo-like location are in concentration camps. Don't believe the woke left when they tell you crap like this.

• 2:02:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinnie.

• 2:02:35Speaker 05

  I love it. The fact that we have a facility surrounded by alligators. How many conversations are you think are gonna happen, Tom, of guys of whatever? Whatever country they're gonna try to come here from, Mexico, El Salvador. Venezuela going, no, they're not gonna, bro. I'm not coming. Yeah, I can't swim and I don't like the gators. By the way, it's a deterrent, number one, okay? And here's the thing, damned if you do, damned if you don't. If we send them to El Salvador. And let their president take care of them. It's wrong. If we keep them here, but we keep them from escaping, it's wrong. And by the way, we can't blame Joy Reid, guys. I mean, like, look where she came from. Her job, CNN, was it CNN? Or MSNBC?

• 2:03:18Speaker 05

  MSNBC, just fear porn and everything and just right by just scaring everybody. She can't help herself. Now she's in a basement doing Substack that nobody's watching with another angry black woman as if she's not a multi, multi crazy millionaire. It's like, just, just walk into the sunset, just like Brian Stelter and all these people that all got fired because they suck. Your network sucked, okay? And people are just tired of that shit, and I love it. Anytime, guys, you hear, "I'm starting a Substack," like Jim Acosta and all these people, it's over, okay? I love it. I love what Ron DeSantis is doing. I actually love that they're cool. By the way, he loves Trump, Tom. If you, if you watched him, body language and everything as Trump is talking, he is so excited, which goes back to me to say

• 2:04:02Speaker 05

  that he, dude, he never really wanted to run for president in the first place. And look at the hype, bro. If he's at Alligator Alley, he's wearing some alligator boots right there.

• 2:04:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Look what the other guy's looking at, though.

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• 2:05:11Speaker 05

  You know exactly what he's looking at, Kristi Noem. By the way, can we just, can we give her a shout out? Look how just, they're just hot women around Trump all the time, bro. Shout out, kudos Kristi Noem.

• 2:05:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, disgusting.

• 2:05:24Tom Ellsworth?

  And by the way, by the way, Joy Reid was reportedly terminated on a negotiation that canceled her show and then rolled her off the network, so.

• 2:05:33Speaker 05

  Oh, weird.

• 2:05:34Tom Ellsworth?

  So let's just remember, she didn't go walking into the sunset. Her ratings and everything dropped and the reports that came out indicated that even MSNBC grew tired of it and said, I think you're done here.

• 2:05:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I mean, that's business. Okay, so Diddy, very weird what happened, but nobody is surprised, you know, but I talked about this a few months ago, saying he's gonna be the next OJ Simpson 2.0, nothing's gonna happen to him. Sean Diddy Combs verdict, the live updates, jury convicts, Combs of two counts in sex trafficking trial. When you look at the story, all this stuff with Rico, nothing happened with the Rico stuff. Rob, is this the clip?

• 2:06:14Tom Ellsworth?

  This is Fox News breaking the announcement of the Diddy trial. And then I also have the video of you predicting that Diddy will get off. If you'd like to play that after.

• 2:06:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Play this one first.

• 2:06:24Speaker 05

  I just want to repeat the main headline, and that is this. Sean Diddy Combs acquitted of sex trafficking and racketeering. The racketeering is the most serious charge. That was count one. That would have put him behind bars for the rest of his life, not guilty on that charge. So to recap, of the five counts, three not guilty, Dana, and two guilty in Manhattan Federal Court, New York City.

• 2:06:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Right, we want to bring back.

• 2:06:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so the main things he got off on is exactly what he wanted, which was the Rico stuff. That was the dangerous stuff. The lawyer comes out and says, we accept the fact that he paid for people and prostitution, you know, but not trafficking, not any of that stuff. And because of that, the, you know, they say the lawyers on the other end totally royally screwed up. Rob, if you got that clip, this is us from the podcast. I don't know what the timeline was. It was definitely a few months ago.

• 2:07:21Tom Ellsworth?

  I can tell you, this was May 15th, so almost two, four months ago.

• 2:07:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, play the clip. What is the purpose of this? What is he being judged for? He's being judged for what?

• 2:07:30Adam Sosnick?

  Racketeering and trafficking.

• 2:07:32Patrick Bet-David?

  And trafficking. Well, trafficking is mutual. There's consensual. So the trafficking case could be dismissed. The racketeering on what he's doing, well, there's plenty of documentation there that something can happen. But some of the handling could potentially cause Diddy to become OJ Simpson 2.0.

• 2:07:50Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 2:07:50Patrick Bet-David?

  And goes free.

• 2:07:52Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, man.

• 2:07:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:07:54Adam Sosnick?

  I actually think that's...

• 2:07:54Patrick Bet-David?

  My opinion.

• 2:07:55Adam Sosnick?

  I think that's what's gonna happen, to be honest with you.

• 2:07:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I think Diddy's gonna be...

• 2:07:58Speaker 05

  You heard my what?

• 2:07:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, thoughts?

• 2:08:02Adam Sosnick?

  Diddy right now is doing his best Michael Jackson impersonation and basically moonwalking the hell out of jail. So what do we know about Diddy? He ain't a racketeer. He's not, they're not catching him on the RICO Act. He ain't the mafia. He's not conspiring with anybody. He's not guilty of sex trafficking. The only thing he is actually guilty of is being a freaky piece of crap. And in true, whether you wanna call it Hollywood, we would call it a rap game. He's just rock star. He's doing the sex, drug, and rock and roll lifestyle. And he's just doing it crazier than everybody else. Get your baby oil. Get your freak off ready, cuz Diddy's coming back to a city near you. So they were hoping for what? 20, 40, 60 years?

• 2:08:45Adam Sosnick?

  They're like, yeah, we maybe will get him for six months now. So apparently, he's gonna be sentenced in October of 2025. He might, at that point, just get time served and just moonwalk out of jail. Last point. Has anybody noticed that the Me Too movement, the Believe All Women? All they're doing is catching Ls these days. You know, it started with Johnny Depp. We're like, whoa, Depp, he did all these things, Amber. Yeah, you're innocent. Now, Diddy, apparently, what's going on with this? I don't know. I haven't heard anything about what happened with Russell Brand. Seemed to be like, sort of, fake news. Andrew Tate? I don't know. They're slowly, surely, just letting him out of jail? All of a sudden Candace is interviewing Harvey Weinstein. She believes he's innocent?

• 2:09:30Adam Sosnick?

  I don't know. This Me Too movement might have gone too far, and this is sort of the pendulum swinging back the other way. That, yeah, they might do some wild, foul stuff, but that doesn't mean they're...

• 2:09:40Speaker 05

  Completely guilty of everything. The trial by media, the trial by social media. Everyone thinks someone's guilty. Until they're actually proven innocent. It should be the other way around. Innocent until proven guilty. Well, Adam, you just said he's just a freak and everything. Let's not forget a abusive woman. Beater who chased down freaking Cassie in a hallway. And beat her ass in front of everybody saw in front of the world. Let's not forget that and nothing is going to come off of that. I don't care about statute of limitation or anything. We saw that and all that controversy between the hotel and his bodyguards and holding the footage. But you know what? Well, you're absolutely right. It's a total scumbag move. Horrible. What's the charge for that? Being a scumbag? No, he's coming back. Battery? No, this could be. They already settled that. No, he settled it, but what? There's no job.

• 2:10:24Speaker 05

  I don't care how much money you give somebody. Yeah, but. That right there. I agree. This, if this happened to my sister, to my mom, I would. Want to dismantle this person. Well, none of them did. But in a court of law, what do you charge guilty of? Being a dirtbag? No, that's assault. We all know he's a dirtbag. Assault, no jail because what? You paid her money? There that, no, no. If you assault some. Almost 10 years ago. Adam, I don't get, can you cut Rob? Cause I hear the volume playing in my ear. I, I hear the volume. No, no, hold on. Assault. Period. You have to pay the. Brother. That's assault. What I'm saying is I don't care if it's 30 years, 40 years. If it's on camera, you have to pay the price for it. But another thing that people aren't talking about. You don't think they showed that in court, though? They did and nothing happened. Everyone saw that. Everybody saw it in court. Anyway, my point is. I, my point is, what are the charges for that? They, he didn't get any charges, no assault, no nothing. I'm not saying convicted.

• 2:11:09Speaker 05

  What, what's the charge of that? Being a scumbag? No. Yeah, everyone knows he did that. They've showed. Adam, that's an abuse. Adam, if you hit, if you punched, if you did that on camera and somebody showed it to a cop, you're going to get arrested and then you're going to get charged for assault. He didn't get a charge for assault. There's no charges for assault. Period. He got charged for drugs. Or whatever the hell it was prostitution. They dealt, they settled that out of court. Oh, yeah. Are you ready? Are you ready for this? 20 million dollars. Adam, I don't, again, you're missing the point. If you punch me in the face, there's, I, I don't think that there should be a, okay, pay me the money, but you should still get in trouble for assault. You, you committed a crime on camera. Period. Second point. Maureen Comey, she's the prosecutor of this case.

• 2:11:49Speaker 05

  She's the same prosecutor weird that handled the Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell cases without naming a single sex trafficker. Okay. And she just tanked this case as well. Is that incompetence? Hmm, some people would say it's protection. That last.

• 2:12:05Adam Sosnick?

  Name looks very familiar.

• 2:12:06Speaker 05

  Weird, weird, yeah, it's the same guy.

• 2:12:08Adam Sosnick?

  Is her dad in law enforcement?

• 2:12:09Speaker 05

  Yeah, Tom, you guys know a guy named James Comey who recently made headlines because he put eighty-six forty-seven? He found a formation of rocks to sell his shitty book that nobody bought. Sorry for my language. She's the daughter of James Comey. Every time a case gets close to exposing intelligence like ties or elite networks, it magically falls apart. Am I the only one connecting these dots? And also, she's connected to the suppression of the fourteen terabytes of that child abuse evidence. So what, I, every time this happens, guys, every time something like this of this magnitude happens, there's always a web and it always hits either Comey, an FBI, or Hillary Clinton and Epstein. It's always connected and these people always walk. It's just weird.

• 2:12:52Adam Sosnick?

  Can I ask you a question, PBD? Because I'm gonna go back to your prediction. Obviously, you've done a lot of stuff with the mafia, the Rico case. What was it that you saw instinctually that you thought that he was actually gonna get off?

• 2:13:03Patrick Bet-David?

  What, what did I see to think that?

• 2:13:05Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, what did you see when you said that a couple of months ago? You're like, I don't think this is.

• 2:13:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Pattern recognition, Maureen Comey, the other, Damian Williams was replaced by Maureen Comey and who he had represented in the past before, what her background is. And you hear a story here that comes out to me. These kind of go together. Story comes out about the fact that mysterious, mystery surrounds the Jeffrey Epstein files after Bondi claims tens of thousands of videos, right? When she claims, I mean, if she's saying she has access to her words, this is her words when she's in there. That's her job. So it's no longer somebody's telling her this, she's saying this, right? Okay. Attorney General Pam Bondi claimed the FBI is reviewing tens of thousands of videos of Jeffrey Epstein

• 2:13:52Patrick Bet-David?

  with children or child porn made during the White House press conference and earlier to a stranger with a hidden camera. As reported by conservative activist James O'Keefe, who alerted the Justice Department, prompted Bondi to reiterate to reporters, there are tens of thousands of videos of Epstein with children or child porn. The AP found no reference to such videos and hundreds of review documents from the Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell criminal case, with Maxwell's lawyer, Jeffrey Pagliano, stating, "We were never provided with any of those materials. I suspect if they ever existed, we would have seen them, and I've never seen them." So I have no idea what she's talking about. The Trump administration's promised to release the Epstein file. Has faced criticism. This is the key. The way I process this is the following.

• 2:14:37Patrick Bet-David?

  So you claim you have tens of thousands of hours. Oh, Rob, can you play that clip with Bondi? You claim you have these videos, okay? Of child porn. This is Pam Bondi. Okay, this is not us saying this. This is Pam Bondi saying this. On all the videos, okay? Watch this one here. This is right after O'Keefe. Go ahead.

• 2:15:01Speaker 03

  No, no, the FBI, yeah, the FBI, they're reviewing. There are tens of thousands of videos of Epstein with children or child porn. And there are hundreds of victims. And no one victim will ever get released. It's just the volume and that's what they're going through right now. The FBI is diligently going through that. I haven't seen that statement, but I'll call him later.

• 2:15:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so that prompts, when the AP says there was no reference of such videos and hundreds of review documents from Epstein and delay Maxwell criminal case, and even Maxwell's lawyer saying we were never provided with any of these materials. Why not? If there are hundreds of videos with child porn, and then I suspect if they existed, they would have seen them. And I've never seen them. So I have no idea what she's talking about. Okay. You have no idea what she's talking about. Adam, you asked me a question to say, what do you think of what's going on? What made you want to say this? The entire case for me ends, starts and ends with, do you believe Diddy has videos of men hooking up with men,

• 2:16:09Patrick Bet-David?

  celebrities hooking up with celebrities who were other men involved, boys involved? Do you believe Diddy has videos like that? If your answer is no, then I know where you're gonna go with this. If your answer is yes, then you have multiple options of where to go. I'm convinced he is, the answer is yes. And he has a lot of videos of these celebrities. And if the answer is yes, guess what I believe happens? Those people who are powerful people, who produce billions of dollars of revenue and commissions to people in Hollywood and different industries, have access to a lot of powerful people. They're gonna do whatever they can to make sure these things don't make it out to the public. And then, that's where we are today. That's it. It's that simple. It's actually not that complicated for me.

• 2:16:54Patrick Bet-David?

  It's very simple for me. Why did Epstein's videos not make it out to the public? You have a choice. Do you believe Epstein did what he did with underage girls and bringing celebrities and powerful political figures and billionaires in there where a guy that paid him 170 million dollars in consulting fees for tax advice? You know who I'm talking about, right?

• 2:17:15Speaker 05

  Leon Black, I believe.

• 2:17:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, Leon Black and all these guys. Wait, these guys paid you that kind of money? Yes. So you don't think anything happened? I believe something happened. Then why would Maureen Comey be involved in that and Damian Williams? Why would they be involved in these things? Well, maybe they're protecting somebody. Who knows? It's that simple. It's not complicated.

• 2:17:32Speaker 05

  She was, don't forget, guys, Pam Bondi was Florida's Attorney General from 2011 to 2019. All this stuff with Epstein happened prior to her being named, but she had full authority because the victims were asking for it to go after Epstein, but she never did. Despite all the pressure from the public, she actually defended his 2008 sweetheart deal and refused to reopen the case. So it's, again, these aren't crazy dots where people are like, whoa, you're making all these crazy claims and accusations. No, no, it's everybody involved, it seems to me, Vincent O'Shaughnessy's opinion, that every time something like this happens, when it comes to children and sex and all this rape and all this stuff, it's always the same freaking actors always involved.

• 2:18:15Speaker 05

  And the kids are always the ones that are going to be the victims. And it's absolutely freaking ridiculous. You say, you get caught talking in a restaurant about tens of thousands of hours of the footage, then you go out on the White House lawn and you- Forced to go out on the lawn. Thank you, Tom. You have to go make a statement. And now, come to find out, what, are you lying? Are you, and again, they have everybody running around in all these circles and it always comes down to this, Tommy, the freaking victims, zero. We have, I don't want to know their names. I don't care, especially when Cash Patel was like, I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to, we're not going to put them through that. I don't want to know one person's name, okay? I want one person to go to freaking jail. One. I don't give a damn who it is.

• 2:18:56Speaker 05

  I want that famous person that was on that plane that was at Epstein Island doing this thing. I don't even want to see that footage. You just tell me, tell me what you guys saw and we'll believe you. Show, well, yeah, we're Cash Patel. Quiet. Um, who's the other guy? You know, quiet, guys, come on, man, come on, do justice for one freaking child, one child that was there underage, do your

• 2:19:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Vinnie, a lot of times on big, big cases like this, it all hides in plain sight. Now we look back and we can see Oswald didn't act alone, there were multiple shooters, you can even go to the, um, to the national historic, uh, look, um, uh, tour that you can do of the, um, book depository, listen on your headphones and they tell you, you're hearing what's called rapport, which means echo of a gunshot, the report, um, that you're hearing multiple shooters, they even say so, they don't say who, but it's like, oh, okay, it was multiple shooters and Oswald didn't act alone, and a lot of the stuff just hides in plain sight. Here's what was in plain sight for me. Number one, Diddy's plane was on the move when they were searching his house.

• 2:19:56Speaker 05

  Yup.

• 2:19:57Tom Ellsworth?

  And it went all the way to a non-jurisdiction, right?

• 2:20:00Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:20:00Tom Ellsworth?

  It left US airspace, uh, through, uh, after stopping in Opa-Locka. Second, that's a fact, we tracked the plane, that is a fact. Second, fact, he gets on the phone with his sons and he's talking about them to remember to get the pizza boxes.

• 2:20:15Speaker 05

  Weird.

• 2:20:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Anybody in IT will tell you pizza box is a nickname for the flat servers that go into racks and they're big, square and flat, they slide in and they're about the size of a pizza box. They're called pizza boxes. He's not telling them to clean up after a party. I believe, and many other people believe, he was telling them to go get servers. It says, or what those contain. It says, then Ann Coulter said, and she talks to a lot of people, not that she's a big informant here, but she said something, she said, I think it goes along like this, and Ann, if you're listening, I'm not trying to misquote you. It was food for thought. Sometimes when the FBI is coming in on a person of high profile that was with other high-profile people, commission of crimes, it's not the

• 2:21:00Tom Ellsworth?

  FBI looking for things as much as it may be the FBI taking things.

• 2:21:06Speaker 05

  Exactly.

• 2:21:07Tom Ellsworth?

  And so I, I'm on the same page that Pat was from the beginning. It's like, man, there's too many people that were in these rooms. How is Diddy gonna die alone? The answer is, he ain't. And so now it comes down to this, you know, it's, and the defense, I thought, was very, very good. You may see a violent person. You may see, Bobby, statute of limitations left on the hotel thing. That's why there wasn't a charge. You may see and hear testimony that says, "He conducts his sexual life a lot different than mainstream America does." Yeah, that's true. However, it says, "He didn't do this." It's a very simple defense in the mind of a juror to say, "Yes, he did. Yes, he did."

• 2:21:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Admission kind of leans. And then a poorly played case, just like the OJ case was poorly played. And this is where you end up. But I think this was hiding in plain sight from the beginning. Get the pizza boxes and the planes on the move. And the answer is carrying what? I think it was carrying a lot of stuff that was basically the dead man insurance policies that Diddy had on everybody else.

• 2:22:13Patrick Bet-David?

  I think 60% of people believe that.

• 2:22:15Tom Ellsworth?

  60?

• 2:22:16Patrick Bet-David?

  I think most people believe that there was stuff on it.

• 2:22:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Of course.

• 2:22:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Most people believe there was stuff on it. What happens with that, who knows? Anyways, gang, we're at the end of the podcast. I do want to remind you guys, for those of you guys that are competing for the MINEC contest, it was an explosive month of June when it comes down to MINEC. And there will be two reveals made to you guys at the MINEC contest. When we go to Casa de Angela and we go to the cigar lounge. And I can't tell you what those two things are, but it's going to be explos- You're going to be sitting there saying, "You've got to be kidding me, they're doing this." So here's a different leader so far who are competing for MINEC. Whether you're a new expert, existing expert, or a user, you're competing to be invited to this. Rob, if you can go a little bit lower for us to look at each category. So we have lightweight at the top for this month. It's Dennis Salguero.

• 2:23:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Then we have Giancarlo. Oh, wow, good for you, Giancarlo. Then we have Taylor de Granthor Place, Don Roan, Tariq, Julio, Rioni, and a few other people. We got a Paul Williams there as well. Brooks and Aline, I see you. Okay, go to the middleweight, Rob, if you can see that. For MINEC, we have Dean Mason at the top, Brad Lee.

• 2:23:23Tom Ellsworth?

  DJ Shipley.

• 2:23:24Patrick Bet-David?

  DJ Shipley, Navy SEAL Team 10.

• 2:23:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Nice.

• 2:23:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Roman Scharf, one of the best guys in the watch game. Parson, a few other guys you see there. Then go to the next category for heavyweight. Heavyweight we've got Daniel DeBrink at the top.

• 2:23:36Speaker 05

  Look at Daniel.

• 2:23:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Sebastian Garcia, Santino Talassi, Talani, and Michael Mara, Matt Sappala, John Mason, and others. And then let's go to super heavyweight Lindy Lee is just destroying it at the top.

• 2:23:48Speaker 05

  Look at Timothy Ryan just reviewing his butt off. Get it, dog?

• 2:23:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Lindy Lee has already done 50 completed mannequins. Timothy Ryan, Vincent Oshana, PBD Tom, Rob Elliott, and a few other names. So excited to have dinner with you guys here. Once this contest is over, go to users, Rob. Let's see what users at the top so far this month. New we have Cowweb, Shetanji Rob. I can't see anything. I mean, if you want to zoom in a little bit, there you go.

• 2:24:13Speaker 05

  Anwar.

• 2:24:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Zilda, Ethan, Jesse, great. Let's go to existing. We have Zeus at the top, then we got Hecker Cox.

• 2:24:19Speaker 05

  Hecker.

• 2:24:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Dalton, Dorothy, Chris, and others. All right, Gank. If you haven't yet downloaded the app and started mannequing, you ought to do so. Join the PBD Podcast Circle in Manect where people get to communicate with each other. And as well as Manect, Tom, Vinnie, Adam, whoever else may be. There's a bunch of new guys that are on Manect. If you need a recommendation, let us know. We'll recommend you to people on Manect as well. God bless everybody. Take care. Bye bye, bye bye.

• 2:24:46Speaker 05

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