380. A big life update...

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• 2:22Jemma Sbeg?

  Hello everybody, I'm Jemma Sbeg and welcome back to The Psychology of Your 20s, the podcast where we talk through the biggest changes, moments and transitions of our twenties and what they mean for our psychology.

• 2:41Jemma Sbeg?

  Hello everybody, welcome back to the show, welcome back to the podcast. It is so great to have you here back for a little special edition bonus episode, talking about some crazy news. I'm sure all of you, I, I hope you guys know this by now, but The Psychology of Your 20s is officially on Netflix. All of this happened so fast, I didn't get to tell you guys the story. I tell you guys everything. I didn't get to share the juicy details and I want to share the juicy details. And I didn't really get to address how this is going to change things for the podcast.

• 3:23Jemma Sbeg?

  Spoiler alert, it's not really going to change much, but this is just such a monumental moment for The Psychology of Your 20s. And each of you have been there for, whether you've been here for a month, whether you've been here for almost five years, I don't know, it just feels weird for something so huge to happen and to not give you guys a behind the scenes look at, I don't know what it means to get a Netflix show, like what that process looks like and just how I've been feeling as well. It's obviously a huge personal change as well as a professional change and a change for us. So yeah, this Sunday, this bonus episode, I thought I'd just sit down back where it

• 4:04Jemma Sbeg?

  all began, in bed, in my house and dish and tell you guys what's been happening and how this came to be. So yes, if you didn't know, if this is the first time you're hearing this, The Psychology of Your 20s is officially a Netflix podcast. Let me get one thing out of the way, that does not mean we're going anywhere. The only thing it changes is basically that our episodes are no longer on On YouTube, our video episodes are no longer on YouTube. But if you only ever listen to audio, this is basically just a bonus for you. Now you can, you can watch it on like the most popular streaming platform in the world. But you can also listen to it on Spotify, listen to it on Apple, wherever you are listening right now. And nothing really changes.

• 4:48Jemma Sbeg?

  Another thing to address, I have had a lot of messages from people in Australia or in Thailand or in Italy being like, I can't see it. Uh, that's because as of right now, it is only in the U S and Canada. And I don't really know what their plans are to extend it, to be honest. I'm kind of out of the loop, but as soon as that changes, I will let you guys know. Um, we are still posting like clips and stuff. So if you want to see what the new studio looks like, uh, it's pretty cool. You can find that on Instagram and we're still posting like some shorts to YouTube. But basically nothing much is changing. This is just some, just an extra way of like, yeah, of the podcast being distributed and being able to connect with you guys.

• 5:33Jemma Sbeg?

  I absolutely love our set. I think it is beautiful. There's so many like little personal details in it as well that feel really special to me. You guys don't care about that. I want to tell you the story of how this fricking happened because I don't, I've never heard anyone talk about what, what, what it means to be on Netflix and like how people approach you with that. How do you find out that that's going to be something that happens? So let me take you back, actually not very far to like October last year when I was still living in Sydney. This was very out of the blue. I'm just going to make that super clear. I feel like that's very obvious from how I've been speaking about it. I had no clue this was happening.

• 6:18Jemma Sbeg?

  To be honest, I have been a little bit hesitant about doing video podcasts. I always said, you know, the podcast is audio only. I was very uncomfortable in front of the camera. Um, this was like my preferred format, just my voice. You know, maybe it's because when I was like a kid, somebody said I had a face for radio and I really internalized that, but. You guys know I kind of started a YouTube and I started posting the episodes there and I was really getting into the swing of it. I felt very motivated by it. I I was, it just is nice to learn a new set of skills, right? And I feel like I've been doing this for a while now. I wanted to try something else and kind of take it in a new direction.

• 6:58Jemma Sbeg?

  So I was kind of posting on YouTube like one episode a week. No, let's be real, no views. It really felt like when I first started the podcast and I would like, nobody was really listening. It felt very reminiscent of that. Um, and then one day I get this call from my agent, my podcast agent, who like takes care of all the business side of things. Actually, I got a message and she was like, hey, are you awake? And I missed the message and I was like, yeah, what's up? And she's like, I have to call you. I've got some news for you. And I was about to move to London in like the next two months. She lived in London. I was like, oh, this has to be something to do with.

• 7:38Jemma Sbeg?

  Maybe she's staying in London for longer because she was planning on moving like, I don't know what's going on, but like it's a personal thing. And so I call her that night and I'm like, hey, like, what's going on? You know, you okay? Like, what's happening in like, you know, thinking that's what it was. And she was like, you need to, you need to sit down. I just got off the call, off the phone, like yesterday I got off the phone with somebody. Um, with, and they, I literally can't even, this is so crazy to me. But Netflix is interested in signing your podcast for a video deal.

• 8:14Jemma Sbeg?

  And my reaction to that was, that is not funny. Please don't joke with me like that. And she was like, no. That is absolutely what is happening. No promises, but they're interested and this is moving really fast. Bear in mind, this was in October. It's January as I'm recording this. And I was like, okay, well, let them know I'm keen. Like, I'm not gonna say no. Let them know I'm totally down to do that. And I told four people, I told obviously Tom, my boyfriend, I told my dad. But I said, don't tell anybody else. I knew he was gonna tell my mom, but I was like, don't tell anyone else. And I called my.

• 8:55Jemma Sbeg?

  Best friend and was like, and she was with another friend of ours. So I ended up telling them and being like, this might not happen. Don't tell anybody. I don't, I'm so superstitious about not talking about things until they actually happen. I didn't want to jinx it. I didn't want people to know. I didn't want it to be like this was out there and that meant that it could get taken away. And then that night I literally sat down and I was like, what, how do I respond to this? I, I better just do more, more work. This is very pathological for me, but I was like, oh my God, I, well, this is gonna happen. I better prove that I'm, that I deserve it. I better, better work tonight, but I was gonna clock off for the evening, but I better get back on my laptop and tippy tappy away.

• 9:38Jemma Sbeg?

  And I actually, this is crazy. I actually made the, if you follow me on Instagram, the psychology of skinny top post, which crazy, that is like my most successful post of all time. It has eight million views. Wild, but that's literally, that, that is how you, like, if you wanna go back and look at timeline, I, maybe I should go and look at it. That is the date that I found out, the date that I posted that. And then I heard nothing. I didn't hear anything for like, I would say a month. And I was like, oh, this isn't happening. I'm so glad I didn't tell everybody. I'm so glad I didn't make a big deal out of it. It's not happening. You know, why would they want me like the podcast? I don't know. I was just like, I'm not a celebrity.

• 10:21Jemma Sbeg?

  Not really that big of a deal. Like, I just make my podcast. I live in Sydney. I don't really live in the US. Like, I'm kind of out of like the, the milieu. I'm out of like the, the space that people who get these deals operate in. I don't live in it. Like, you know, it just didn't occur to me, right? And I was resigned to the fact, I was a bit disappointed, but I was resigned to the fact that like this isn't happening and, and we can move on with our lives and we can start devoting time to other things that you care about.

• 10:48Jemma Sbeg?

  And then suddenly, we're packing up for London. Our entire house is packed down. We're in Melbourne with my family, dropping off my dog, saying goodbye to everybody that we love. And I am not making this up. Four hours before I get on the plane to fly from, where am I, Melbourne? I was gonna say Sydney, to fly from Melbourne to London. I get this message and I get this email from my lawyer, being like, hey, are you ready to sign? Are you ready to sign this Netflix deal? And I was like, oh my god, yes, it's happening? Okay, like, let's do it.

• 11:33Jemma Sbeg?

  So I signed it. And then I told my, I told my sisters, I think my parents had told them, but I told my sisters who were there. And I got on the plane. Actually, I will say, we did get upgraded to business and that just felt like a nice reward. I was like, oh, this is special. Cause that doesn't happen to me ever, really, like only if work is paying for it or like if someone else is paying for it. Um, so that was a nice start to like our London thing. Anyways, we touched down in London, crazy story, I think I've said this. When we were on that flight, we found out like that our accommodation, like where we were meant to be staying in London had fallen through. So I've literally signed this deal, being like, I'm gonna be on Netflix. Gotten on a plane, left my entire life behind.

• 12:16Jemma Sbeg?

  Whilst I'm on the plane, realised I'm landing in a city where I don't have anywhere to live. And the Netflix thing like kind of went to the back of my, back of my mind, right? I was kinda like, eh, you know, I have some time. Cause I genuinely thought that this wasn't gonna happen until like the middle of the year, this year being twenty twenty six. I was like, this isn't gonna happen for a while. I have time to just like relax into London, enjoy myself. We find an apartment, I find a temporary studio where I'm like, yep, this is great. I can just keep recording here, this is fine. Uh, we go on holiday with my family. And then on the first of January.

• 12:59Jemma Sbeg?

  New Year's Day, I get this email and this email is like, so we're launching on the twenty sixth of Jan, we need all your episodes for January. And I'm in Stockholm and me and Tom are about to go to Paris for two weeks. To be like, it's like our big trip, like our welcome to Europe trip. We've got our accommodation booked, we've got everything sorted, we've literally booked wine tours, we've booked the Moulin Rouge, like we're doing all that stuff. And they're like, so we need, uh, we need you to be back in the studio. And so literally we cancelled our, we cancelled our whole trip to Paris and I know, like, I'm not complaining. Can you imagine if I was like, oh my god, I have to cancel my trip to Paris because my Netflix deal got in the way. Don't worry, that was an easy decision.

• 13:43Jemma Sbeg?

  And um, yeah, we got on, we got on a flight back to the UK and just, I just worked my butt off. And just had to just, I just had to basically grind out like so many episodes. Um, so I will say, if you've noticed, like, I, maybe I'm self-conscious about this, but if you've noticed, maybe a slight decline in like episode quality. Um, I don't know, I feel like that's what, that's what it is. Like, I've just been working so hard. And that has made moving to London difficult because I haven't really had time to socialize or to make new friends. It's all been about this release and, and when this is coming out and yeah.

• 14:23Jemma Sbeg?

  So I'm probably skipping a few things, but it came out five days ago officially on Netflix. I saw my face. Have I watched an episode yet? No, it's the same reason I don't listen back to podcast episodes. Which is ironic because I started the podcast thinking that I was by this age, I would, I would have listened back to my first episode, but I still, I don't think I have. Um, maybe a little bit, but you know, okay, sidebar. I have not watched an episode yet. I've just been working, to be honest, and.

• 15:03Jemma Sbeg?

  This is the one thing I will say. There is no complaints here. I'm incredibly grateful for this. And it really doesn't just feel like my win. It feels like a win for everybody who works on the podcast behind the scenes. It's like three people, but you know, all of them work so hard. It feels like a win for us, like the listeners that, I don't know, I just, it, it feels like this is happening to a character. Um, that is made up of everybody, I don't know, who has helped me and. So I'm very excited by it. I feel very grateful. But it has been a little bit sad, I guess, having such a big thing happen. Uh, when you don't have any friends in the city that you're living in.

• 15:43Jemma Sbeg?

  I have two friends here and they've been really busy and they've been really kind of, you know, they've got their own lives and. You know, the day that it came out, I wasn't really able to see them. So I, um. Like the day that it came out, I actually just worked and I actually just sat at home and I had. Like a vegetable platter for dinner, which is, I'm not complaining, it's delicious, but it's been this weird thing where. Sometimes the biggest moments in your career and the biggest moments in your life are incredibly anticlimactic. And not very exciting and you would expect. Them to be these marvelous amazing moments.

• 16:24Jemma Sbeg?

  And especially since like the only context I had for what it means to be on Netflix is like very huge stars who. Throw these parties and do all these things. And I was like, well, um, you don't realize like they, they don't throw that for you. Like you kind of have to do it yourself, um, especially since I'm not in the U S. Like I've just been kind of D I Y ing this whole thing. Like you, it's actually insane that they let me be on Netflix because. I don't, I really don't know what I'm doing and it is genuinely just like me and my researchers and like my, my producer who. Is in the U S. So. I don't know, guys, they gave me the keys to the city. I don't, and I don't really know how to run it. So, um, I guess.

• 17:07Jemma Sbeg?

  Yeah. My overarching feelings are just, this is amazing. Thank you so much.

• 17:13Jemma Sbeg?

  I'm very excited and it feels surreal. And it feels surreal in a way that nobody could ever really prepare you for. Where you have so much gratitude and you are so blown away. But you, you don't know how to feel. So you're just like, should I be feeling differently? Like, should there be something more to this that I'm, that I'm missing? Like, am I doing this right? And I think over time, like, I'll, I'll hopefully adjust. Uh, but again, I wanna say thank you and this is an incredible moment. You guys did this for me. So wow. I'm thinking of all the ways that this year I can hopefully give back to you guys and

• 17:54Jemma Sbeg?

  make sure that this is still the tight knit psychology of your twenties community that we know and love of wonderful, marvelous, intelligent people who are here to grow and here to learn. And I wanna keep that. I wanna keep that intact because that is really what makes everything work around here and why I love the podcast as well. So for this year, I'm super excited for you guys to be able to watch it if you are in the US or Canada and hopefully other places soon as well. I'm also excited that we're gonna be doing so many more live events and meetups and friendship making events. Um, to hopefully meet more of you and to be able to like spread the joy and say thank you in as many cities as possible.

• 18:39Jemma Sbeg?

  And I don't know, I don't really know what to expect from this year and from, and from this change. I feel like I'm still processing it. And as I'm talking about it, I'm like, huh, I probably should have some, I probably should know. I probably should have some bigger plans, but you guys will be the first to know when I do. And not to sound like a broken record, but again, you guys made this happen. It's still gonna be the podcast you know and love. Thank you for the support that you have all shown it so far. And if you have any more questions about Netflix and what that looks like, I will spill all, I will tell you all the juicy details of those email chains and those meetings. They've been pretty fantastic to work with so far.

• 19:24Jemma Sbeg?

  Um, actually really fantastic. And it's as much as there have been like little hiccups just in terms of, you know, it would have been fine if I was in Australia, right? But because I've moved, it's been very stressful. Um, yeah, other than that, it's just been a wonderful experience. So that is the little bonus update from me. If you have made it this far, leave a comment down below. What previous episode of ours do you most wanna see on Netflix? But also what city are you in? So I can add it to our tour schedule, to our meet and greet meetup schedule. I really wanna meet as many of you guys as possible and get out on the town. Um, get out on the town.

• 20:08Jemma Sbeg?

  See, I don't really know what I'm saying. Netflix has changed me. Now I'm all corny and cliche. But, um, yeah, leave a little comment down below. Make sure you're following us on Instagram at that psychology podcast. Following us on Substack. We've just launched a new thing where we do a study of the week. If you want even more psychology content, that is where you can find it. And until next time, you guys know the drill. Be safe, be kind, be gentle to yourself. Watch the psychology of your twenties on Netflix if you feel called to do so. And we will talk very, very soon.

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