Tony Hale and Santino Go Deep on Comedy, Faith & Hollywood | Whiskey Ginger

Welcome to Whiskey Ginger, a Wave Series. Presented by FanDuel. Tony Hale joins Andrew Santino on Whiskey Ginger for a hilarious and surprisingly deep conversation about his role in Toy Story 5, life after Arrested Development, playing Gary Walsh on Veep, navigating Hollywood with his faith intact, and the stories behind some of TV's most beloved characters. 🥃 NEW EPISODES EVERY FRIDAY 🎙️ Follow Tony Hale: Instagram: @mrtonyhale Projects: Toy Story 5, Arrested Development, Veep, Arcane 📲 Follow Whiskey Ginger & Andrew Santino: Instagram: @whiskeygingerpodcast Podcast: Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts & all streaming services 🕐 Timestamps: 00:00 – Intro 02:31 – Tony Hale is a Gin Guy 10:41 – Santino Should Play An Irish Role 14:38 – Toy Story 5 and voicing Forky 26:40 – Santino's Favorite Arrested Development Joke 38:33 – Tony Hale grew up in the south 43:03 – Journalism and Comedy 50:47 – Talking About Pee Wee Herman 56:39 – Faith In The South #WhiskeyGinger #AndrewSantino #TonyHale ================================================== This episode is sponsored by: SQUARESPACE USE PROMO CODE: WHISKEY GET 10% OFF YOUR ORDER https://squarespace.com/whiskey FANDUEL PREDICTS Introducing EVERY GOAL PAYS! HEAD TO ⁠https://fanduel.com TO GET STARTED! SHADYRAYS PROMO CODE: GINGER GET 50% OFF 2+ PAIRS OF POLARIZED SHADES https://shadyrays.com RIP OLIVER TREE ❤️ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:15Speaker 01

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• 0:42Speaker 01

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• 0:59Andrew Santino?

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• 1:17Andrew Santino?

  I'm Andrew Santino. I'm Bobby Lee. And welcome to The Bad Game Show. It's The Bad Game Show. And once again, thank you to Bobby's mom. Back off. I'd mess you up. Let's start this game. Each of you guys write down the slang term for what we're pointing at. What's this right here, guys?

• 1:34Speaker 03

  What is this right here?

• 1:35Andrew Santino?

  Kevin Spacey, Epstein, Weinstein. What do they have in common?

• 1:39Speaker 04

  They're all scumbags.

• 1:40Andrew Santino?

  Incorrect. These are all classic New York guys. Oh my god.

• 1:46Speaker 03

  Is this the game where we have to figure out what the f your mother is saying?

• 1:51Andrew Santino?

  How old is my [bleep] wife? I'm gonna put as many marshmallows as I can in Bobby Lee's mouth. If you were in prison, dude?

• 1:56Speaker 03

  Easy access. I am thoroughly aroused.

• 1:59Andrew Santino?

  Is this your son?

• 2:01Speaker 05

  Oh my god. How did I get here? I'm so thrilled that I'm only a lesbian.

• 2:06Andrew Santino?

  Wow! Yeah.

• 2:09Speaker 03

  Stop hitting on my mom, okay?

• 2:10Andrew Santino?

  Our next game. Time to get handsy. Buzz in before he does, because it's a [bleep] game show. I know, I know! January 1st!

• 2:21Andrew Santino?

  9/11!

• 2:23Speaker 03

  Show, you asshole!

• 2:24Speaker 06

  Was that a... do you consider that a good episode? What's the barometer?

• 2:31Andrew Santino?

  Welcome back to Whiskey Ginger, a wave series presented by FanDuel. Whiskey ginger fans, happy Juneteenth, first of all. Happy Juneteenth next Sunday. Next Sunday, I'm gonna be at the Sound in Delmar. Delmar, San Diego, come out and see me. And then we moved St. Charles or St. Louis, Missouri. We moved it to August 7th, so come see me there. But next Sunday, come see your boy, San Diego. Come out and see me do two shows at the Sound in Delmar. Delmar, dude! Andrew Santino.com for those tickets. Andrew Santino.com. In here, we pour whiskey. Whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey. You're that creature in the ginger beard! Sturdy ginger. Like vampires, the ginger gene is a curse. Gingers are beautiful.

• 3:15Andrew Santino?

  You owe me $5 for the whiskey, $75 for the horse. Gingers, oh hell no! This whiskey is excellent. Ginger, I like gingers.

• 3:26Andrew Santino?

  Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Whiskey Ginger. My guest today is one of my favorite people on earth. I say that for all my guests, but I mean, once again, today, it's Tony Hale!

• 3:32Speaker 07

  For today, I'm your favorite person.

• 3:33Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, today, cheers. I'm drinking gin, which is very rare for me. I'm usually a whiskey guy.

• 3:38Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 3:39Andrew Santino?

  But for you, mm, your publicist called and said...

• 3:43Speaker 07

  I do like gin a lot.

• 3:44Andrew Santino?

  He doesn't drink anything but gin and have a full bottle ready for him. He'll finish it.

• 3:49Speaker 07

  Sounds like such a douchebag.

• 3:51Andrew Santino?

  That's what they said.

• 3:52Speaker 07

  I have gin and...

• 3:53Andrew Santino?

  He's a gin man!

• 3:54Speaker 07

  And pink and black M&Ms.

• 3:56Andrew Santino?

  I do, we have the pink and black M&Ms out there. And we will bring them in. Tony, thank you for coming.

• 4:01Speaker 07

  I can't do whiskey. For some reason, it doesn't work with the stomach.

• 4:06Andrew Santino?

  Are you, you're British? What's your ancestry?

• 4:09Speaker 07

  I think I'm a bit of a mutt. I think I don't... I did a 23andMe a long time ago, and it was just a plethora of different things.

• 4:15Andrew Santino?

  You don't have one, like, one thing that dominated? You seem like you might have been a little Mayflower-y. Hale, what's Hale?

• 4:24Speaker 07

  Oh, Hale is a stage name, because my grandfather was an opera singer. His original name was Johnston, and he didn't think that was work, so he changed it to Hale.

• 4:32Andrew Santino?

  Okay, let me... Johnston? That's off the boat. The Johnston's have come by.

• 4:36Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 4:37Andrew Santino?

  Oh, hello, Johnston's!

• 4:38Speaker 07

  That's true. Yeah, so I guess I do.

• 4:41Andrew Santino?

  You came from something... Something good. Something classy.

• 4:45Speaker 07

  I really, you know, I always wanted to do one of those, um, where you trace, you know, you go on the show and you

• 4:50Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, and they find out something terrible.

• 4:52Speaker 07

  Awful.

• 4:52Andrew Santino?

  They're like, "You're a family-owned slave." You're like, "Well, you know what, let's, uh, let's move on to the next..."

• 4:56Speaker 07

  And then I just live with codependent guilt and false guilt for the rest of my life.

• 4:59Andrew Santino?

  True.

• 5:00Speaker 07

  Um, but I don't know, it's, a couple of my friends have done it and you just, it really wakes you up to some stuff. I think I do want to know.

• 5:06Andrew Santino?

  I don't want to, well, actually, I know enough that my grandparents are

• 5:09Speaker 07

  Just Scottish all around.

• 5:10Andrew Santino?

  Irish, Irish, Irish, and then my dad's side, Italian, Italian. So I don't, I don't think I'd find much.

• 5:15Speaker 07

  Are all, is your whole family redheads?

• 5:18Andrew Santino?

  No, I'm the only one. He knows my entire family. I'm the only one.

• 5:21Speaker 07

  Do you guys know each other for a long time?

• 5:23Andrew Santino?

  No, he's become kind of a fixture of our family. He was at my sister's wedding a week ago.

• 5:27Speaker 07

  Wow.

• 5:28Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, it's kind of

• 5:28Speaker 07

  And you weren't there?

• 5:29Andrew Santino?

  No, I didn't, yeah, he subbed for me. Yeah, tag team. No, I think my grandmother had red hair and my mom, my mom is one of 10 kids and one of them has Auburn hair. But I'm, that's why I was the most loved. The grand, the grandkids hated me.

• 5:44Speaker 07

  Really?

• 5:44Andrew Santino?

  Because my grandmother was like, "I'm the golden child."

• 5:47Speaker 07

  You always hear the redheaded stepchild.

• 5:49Andrew Santino?

  I am, too, I have a stepdad.

• 5:50Speaker 07

  But then it's the opposite, they're not loved, but you were loved.

• 5:53Andrew Santino?

  Not by my stepdad, so that actually was on course.

• 5:55Speaker 07

  Oh, let's get into it.

• 5:58Andrew Santino?

  No, he was, he knows him, he is the best. No, you know what, I was loved, I was very, I was loved.

• 6:03Speaker 07

  You have a good foundation.

• 6:04Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, some, well, some. But like any kid,

• 6:07Speaker 07

  Sure.

• 6:07Andrew Santino?

  I'm an 80s baby. All of my friends' parents are divorced.

• 6:11Speaker 07

  Uh huh.

• 6:12Andrew Santino?

  You're, you're late 70s?

• 6:13Speaker 07

  Early 70s, God bless you, early 70s, yeah.

• 6:16Andrew Santino?

  I thought you were closer in age.

• 6:17Speaker 07

  Fifty, 55.

• 6:20Andrew Santino?

  Well, you look great.

• 6:21Speaker 07

  Thank you.

• 6:21Andrew Santino?

  And for people at home, Tony stripped before the show, we do that, most guests have to get naked in the waiting room.

• 6:26Speaker 07

  I did, voluntarily.

• 6:27Andrew Santino?

  You did, yeah, he's, he was like, "Check it out."

• 6:29Speaker 07

  I walked in and I said, "Guys, I want to take my clothes off." You're like, "That's so weird." I do that with all the guests.

• 6:34Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, well, thank you. Uh, are your, your parents were together?

• 6:40Speaker 07

  My parents have been together, yeah, they've, they've been together.

• 6:43Andrew Santino?

  That's awesome.

• 6:43Speaker 07

  Yeah, for, gosh, uh, well, they're 87, both of them, still alive, and I don't really know what, how many years.

• 6:52Andrew Santino?

  Still alive, this screams Mayflower material. See, these are good people. This isn't trash, like my, everyone's dead that I know, I think everyone's dead and divorced, but that's what Irish, Irish die young.

• 7:02Speaker 07

  Do they?

• 7:03Andrew Santino?

  Well, I mean, they have terrible health and they drink a lot, and I love these people very much, but everyone gets sick.

• 7:08Speaker 07

  Was the wedding a big drinking wedding?

• 7:11Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, was the wedding a bit drink in my sisters? Yeah. Well, all my mom and my dad both drank. My sister and she married. A kid whose. Mom and dad are from Ireland, moved here in the eighties or nineties, so.

• 7:27Speaker 07

  And they drink a lot, I guess.

• 7:28Andrew Santino?

  Oh, God, yeah, yeah, yeah, they're big time. Actually. You lived in New York?

• 7:32Speaker 07

  I lived in New York, yeah. Did you ever know each other in New York?

• 7:35Andrew Santino?

  No, but did you ever go on the Upper West Side? There's a bar. Called the Dublin House.

• 7:39Speaker 07

  Kind of sad that I even had to ask that. That means that there are people that I have known that I just. Forgot.

• 7:45Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, but that happens.

• 7:47Speaker 07

  It happens a little too much. I'm like, I went to, because I grew up, you were asking me something.

• 7:51Andrew Santino?

  No, I was saying, there's a place called the Dublin House on the Upper West Side. You know, the Beacon, you know where the Beacon is? It's five blocks away from there. It's got a big neon harp.

• 8:00Speaker 04

  It's on Seventy Ninth and Broadway.

• 8:02Speaker 07

  Yeah, that that sounds familiar.

• 8:03Andrew Santino?

  That's my new brother in law's family's bar.

• 8:06Speaker 07

  Oh, wow.

• 8:07Andrew Santino?

  So can you imagine? We like to. Like I played a show at the Beacon. And they were all like, you're gonna come over to the bar, yeah. And I was like, I think we'll bring some people.

• 8:14Speaker 07

  They're actually, they're actually.

• 8:15Andrew Santino?

  They're from Ireland. Oh, yeah. And they're like, you come to the bar, will you? Well, you sometimes his dad speaks and I'm like. What did, what did he say? But I play the game where I go, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and then he'll go, for what, what? And I'll go, ah. Fuck. And then I'll have to admit, I go, I didn't, I didn't hear what you said. You have to.

• 8:32Speaker 07

  There is a, I worked with a, do you know Saoirse, Saoirse Monica Jackson is?

• 8:35Andrew Santino?

  I know Saoirse Ronan, I don't know the other one.

• 8:37Speaker 07

  Saoirse Monica, she, I did a movie, the movie, I did a show called The De Cameron, and she's from Derry.

• 8:42Andrew Santino?

  Oh, wow.

• 8:42Speaker 07

  And I lo-, for a while, it was like, I had to really pay attention. And then once I got it, I got it. And my God, she made me laugh. She is so, so, just such quick one liners.

• 8:54Andrew Santino?

  Their sensibilities are, they have to laugh because it's quite sad if you go up there. Like you don't have. You really don't have much choice but to like have a drink, have a laugh and then, like, did you see The Banshees of Inisherin?

• 9:03Speaker 07

  No. Oh. Too, too sad.

• 9:06Andrew Santino?

  I mean, it's honestly, I loved it, but my God, the whole thing is so sad. And then you hear the actors talk about it and they're like. Yeah, it's a lot of that, a lot of that's based on reality.

• 9:15Speaker 07

  Can you, though, when you watch that kind of stuff, I am interested in this. Can you, when you, can you kind of compartmentalize it and just kind of go with your day? It doesn't really affect you?

• 9:24Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, I think, I think because there's, I don't know, I, maybe this is, I have, I like the beauty underneath all the sadness. Cause I just see that first.

• 9:33Speaker 07

  It's great. I just can't shake it. It's like I keep thinking about it.

• 9:37Andrew Santino?

  It ruins your day.

• 9:37Speaker 07

  Yeah, my wife's like, you're an actor. What is wrong with you? You can't watch something and realize it. But it's like, there's something about, I go, yeah, that might not be happening, but something like that has happened to someone. And I feel like I'm watching it happen in front of me.

• 9:49Andrew Santino?

  See that, so be, if it's well acted, like with those two guys.

• 9:53Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 9:53Andrew Santino?

  It's so good and so powerful, but I know there's some, something so like, like real underneath it.

• 9:59Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 9:59Andrew Santino?

  But it escape, it takes me to that world where if it's like a reality show where people are being fucked up to each other. I'm like, this is way more gross. Like, cause this is also manipulated by producers.

• 10:09Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 10:10Andrew Santino?

  And it's packaged and pushed. And I'm like, this is sad. That makes me more sad. When I see reality type of stuff get gross and weird and publicized, I'm like, we're actually puppeting someone's life.

• 10:18Speaker 07

  I get angry at that stuff.

• 10:20Andrew Santino?

  You do?

• 10:20Speaker 07

  I get angry because I'm like, hey, just FYI, this is your legacy.

• 10:26Andrew Santino?

  This is you.

• 10:26Speaker 07

  Your, your children and their children are gonna be watching this as a representation of you. Why are you doing this?

• 10:33Andrew Santino?

  I know.

• 10:34Speaker 07

  You know, why, cause it's, I get it, maybe, I get it when someone goes on thinking maybe have, they're, they think, oh, it might be this. And then they wake up and go, oh, it wasn't. So I'm gonna walk away.

• 10:42Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 10:43Speaker 07

  Someone's like, no, I'm gonna sign up again.

• 10:44Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, yeah, they do.

• 10:45Speaker 07

  For like six more years.

• 10:47Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 10:47Speaker 07

  That's what I just don't understand.

• 10:49Andrew Santino?

  Well, I think what I've learned through just being like near it with people, you get to understand, they're so good, these producers at convincing the talent that it's, that's all show. And it's just part of the gig. And I think they've kind of like mindfucked people into thinking that, yeah, you're gonna get public hate and all that. It's all, but it's all fake because you know you're not that weird. You're an actor. I think they tell them they're acting and they just think like, oh, I'm playing a part. But you're like, you're the part. It's you.

• 11:19Speaker 07

  You're the part. And your issues are obviously for everybody to see. And there is something to be said about, I do, there is a part of that I appreciate. Honesty, walking through something. But when you can see it really affecting your life.

• 11:31Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 11:32Speaker 07

  And your family, maybe that's a time to step away, you know?

• 11:37Andrew Santino?

  Maybe. Well, I mean, you've gotten, uh, You've gotten so much amazing work that you don't know how it feels to be on the other side of not getting good work.

• 11:46Speaker 07

  Oh my god.

• 11:47Andrew Santino?

  How about that?

• 11:48Speaker 07

  It is, you know it's a hustle.

• 11:49Andrew Santino?

  It's a constant hustle.

• 11:50Speaker 07

  It's a constant hustle.

• 11:51Andrew Santino?

  But you, okay, but you-

• 11:52Speaker 07

  I have one question before you keep going.

• 11:53Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 11:54Speaker 07

  Have you ever done an Irish part?

• 11:55Andrew Santino?

  Have I ever done an Irish part?

• 11:56Speaker 07

  Have you ever played an Irish character?

• 11:58Andrew Santino?

  No, I haven't.

• 11:59Speaker 07

  Oh dude.

• 11:59Andrew Santino?

  What I love to.

• 12:00Speaker 07

  Have you gone out for one?

• 12:01Andrew Santino?

  No, I don't really go out.

• 12:03Speaker 07

  In general?

• 12:04Andrew Santino?

  Yeah. I live here.

• 12:06Speaker 07

  That's great.

• 12:07Andrew Santino?

  No.

• 12:07Speaker 07

  I don't want my face everywhere too.

• 12:08Andrew Santino?

  You know what happens is, uh, I've done a handful of stuff, I have a great time, and then other stuff comes down the pipeline and, uh, I don't know. I'm like, I don't know.

• 12:18Speaker 07

  I can, I bet you'd be great.

• 12:19Andrew Santino?

  I would love to.

• 12:20Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 12:20Andrew Santino?

  So did you hear that Hollywood? Tony Hale thinks I'd be good. You hear that Hollywood? You hear that kids? We gotta get that kid. That whiskey drinker boy.

• 12:27Speaker 07

  Redhead, redhead, redhead.

• 12:27Andrew Santino?

  Redhead, we gotta get that kid in here. No, I always used to joke, I joked on this show, but like, um, they never, they never think of the redhead first. No screenwriter is like, "And the handsome redhead walks into the room."

• 12:38Speaker 07

  Well, you just had to add handsome in there, didn't you?

• 12:39Andrew Santino?

  Mm-hmm.

• 12:40Speaker 07

  Wow.

• 12:40Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 12:41Speaker 07

  Good self.

• 12:41Andrew Santino?

  No, I'm saying they don't write that.

• 12:43Speaker 07

  I usually do emasculate, let's get the emasculated Tony Hale.

• 12:46Andrew Santino?

  No, I'm saying they always write the ugly redhead freak.

• 12:49Speaker 07

  Oh, oh, I see.

• 12:50Andrew Santino?

  I'm saying they never say like-

• 12:51Speaker 07

  Sure, sure, sure.

• 12:52Andrew Santino?

  Hey, and it never gives me a-

• 12:53Speaker 07

  I'm not saying you're not handsome, you're very handsome.

• 12:54Andrew Santino?

  Thank you. No, but they never do that, so every role that's for a redhead, unless it was for me, is always like freak, weirdo.

• 13:03Speaker 07

  Oh.

• 13:03Andrew Santino?

  Uh, yeah, yeah. And then they're giving them, most of my roles I would even come close on to, um, what's the kid from I, Tanya, what's wrong with my brain?

• 13:14Speaker 07

  Oh, Paul Walter Hauser?

• 13:15Andrew Santino?

  Paul Walter Hauser, cause he's like Auburn-ish. And he's sober.

• 13:20Speaker 07

  What?

• 13:20Andrew Santino?

  And I'm an alcoholic, so I just feel like these two, I'm, really, we're-

• 13:23Speaker 07

  I love that right when you said that, I was like, uh-huh.

• 13:25Andrew Santino?

  Uh-huh, yeah. Before we, before we get too deep, cause I have a lot of things to ask you and talk to you about.

• 13:30Speaker 07

  Sure, please. This is very nice to be here, by the way, thank you for having me.

• 13:32Andrew Santino?

  I'm so happy to have you, I'm gonna, I'm gonna kiss your ass a little bit in a second, but I'm gonna try to like slot it in so it doesn't feel disingenuous. Cause it's real, cause we talked before the show, I was like, I gotta be careful about people I actually really like.

• 13:45Speaker 07

  Aww.

• 13:45Andrew Santino?

  Telling them too, cause we have a lot of people on the show that I hate, he knows. Most people, I would say high majority of the people that come on the show, I can't wait for them to get on.

• 13:51Speaker 07

  You can always see when a talk show host doesn't necessarily like.

• 13:57Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, well, that's why I loved Letterman, he was so great at kinda like.

• 13:59Speaker 07

  Hmm.

• 14:00Andrew Santino?

  Shoving it down their throat.

• 14:01Speaker 07

  I also felt bad for those that he didn't like.

• 14:03Andrew Santino?

  I loved it, that was my favorite, it's cause Leno never did that, Leno was very like complimentary and kinda played the game. Letterman was very obvious about who he didn't like.

• 14:11Speaker 07

  See, this is, this is a real gift, I mean, you have a gift of, you can handle that, like, I, if I, I can't watch that stuff. Like, for instance, did you, did you have a hard time watching, uh, uh, uh, what's the, uh, Sacha Baron Cohen movie?

• 14:25Speaker 04

  Borat?

• 14:26Speaker 07

  Borat.

• 14:26Andrew Santino?

  Oh, loved it.

• 14:27Speaker 07

  Okay.

• 14:28Andrew Santino?

  It's fantastic.

• 14:28Speaker 07

  I was out of my skin.

• 14:31Andrew Santino?

  Oh, it's fantastic.

• 14:32Speaker 07

  I, I was lasted five minutes, and I was like.

• 14:34Andrew Santino?

  But did you laugh?

• 14:35Speaker 07

  He's acting, he's a, run for the hills.

• 14:39Andrew Santino?

  All he was doing was exposing who people really are.

• 14:41Speaker 07

  And, yeah, here's the thing, yes, but at the same time, they didn't know they were gonna be on a movie screen. And, I don't know, there's something about them.

• 14:51Andrew Santino?

  Like the racist frat kids that sued him?

• 14:54Speaker 07

  Yeah, I mean, granted, yes, yes.

• 14:56Andrew Santino?

  It's who you really are, I guess, it's almost like, you know.

• 14:58Speaker 07

  Absolutely, but I don't know, the whole, just, anytime I, anytime I know someone is doing a bit, it's that, uh, pranked kinda stuff. But anybody I know, and they don't, I'm like, huh, wake up, wake up, wake up.

• 15:10Andrew Santino?

  The two, the only, the way I give it more, uh, I'm easy on it, is because there's cameras in front of their face. Now, when it's hidden cameras, then you're being super deceptive, but if there's a camera in your face, and there's a guy who's playing a character.

• 15:23Speaker 07

  Was there a camera in their face on Borat?

• 15:25Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, they were.

• 15:25Speaker 04

  Yeah, for, they, cause they were pretending they were filming a documentary.

• 15:28Andrew Santino?

  Documentary, the cameras are exposed, so if there's a camera.

• 15:31Speaker 04

  That's how they got a design release.

• 15:32Andrew Santino?

  The first thought you would think would be like, I better watch what I say on a camera, but they got so comfortable with him and his racism, that they were like.

• 15:40Speaker 07

  That's true, that's a good point.

• 15:41Andrew Santino?

  You know what? I don't like Browns either, and it was like, it was like, just being honest, yeah, it was tough, but I get, I get you not liking that.

• 15:49Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah, oof.

• 15:50Andrew Santino?

  But that's why you, that's why you're sticking to voiceover, easy plug here, Toy Story 5.

• 15:56Speaker 07

  Just stick to animation.

• 15:57Andrew Santino?

  I mean, it's the best job in the world.

• 15:59Speaker 07

  You know, I'm so.

• 16:01Andrew Santino?

  That's so cool.

• 16:01Speaker 07

  I gotta be honest, though. I, it wasn't until I heard my voice in the trailer that I thought. The whole time I was like, they're gonna switch me out.

• 16:11Andrew Santino?

  You thought a recast was coming?

• 16:12Speaker 07

  One hundred percent.

• 16:13Andrew Santino?

  Wait, why?

• 16:14Speaker 07

  Well, just insecurity and, uh, I, I'm.

• 16:20Speaker 07

  I'm such a Pixar fan.

• 16:22Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 16:22Speaker 07

  And I think they have such layers to their work.

• 16:25Andrew Santino?

  Totally.

• 16:25Speaker 07

  That I just like, oh, they're, this is crazy. This is not gonna happen. And cause they, they initially brought me in and cause they said, we're thinking about you for a character. And they said Spork and I was like, oh, okay, let me get, let me get my heads around that. And then they added Buster's voice or Gary's voice to it to see what it was like. And we had this whole kind of playtime about finding his voice. But then after it, you're like, yeah, they're gonna, I'm sure they're gonna grab Jack Black, you know, or something.

• 16:50Andrew Santino?

  They do often grab Jack Black.

• 16:51Speaker 07

  But it's like, just thinking that's, and then when I heard my voice, which is maybe two months before it was released, I was like, oh, they kept me.

• 16:58Andrew Santino?

  That's awesome.

• 16:59Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 16:59Andrew Santino?

  Were you, do you have imposter syndrome?

• 17:02Speaker 07

  Let me think. Imposter syndrome.

• 17:04Andrew Santino?

  Like.

• 17:05Speaker 07

  I would say with my voice, because I never. I was always insecure about my voice. And because I had this voice teacher tell me, Tony, you don't have, anyways, by the way, I said this earlier. You don't have any resonance. You don't have any resonance.

• 17:19Andrew Santino?

  You did say that before we started rolling.

• 17:20Speaker 07

  Yeah, before we started rolling, I said, he's got bigger resonance. You might want to increase my mic. And I had always just had this insecurity. And then through doing a lot of voiceover and just more work, I've gotten more confident. But I think that's, that's always been a bit of a.

• 17:34Andrew Santino?

  That's gross.

• 17:34Speaker 07

  Anxiety.

• 17:35Andrew Santino?

  That teacher was wrong.

• 17:36Speaker 07

  He was, but it's amazing words, man. Like words are.

• 17:39Andrew Santino?

  Why did they stick with us like that? Of all the praise and the great things, you took something a teacher told you one time and you were like, you don't have any resonance.

• 17:46Speaker 07

  Yeah, and he was, he's in an acting school that I never, ever mentioned, and I went there for two years.

• 17:51Andrew Santino?

  Don't, don't mention it now.

• 17:52Speaker 07

  I mentioned this place called The Barrel Group, which I loved. And they like made play out of acting rather than like, work, like nice work, you know, it's like, okay, settle down. But like, this guy was just an ego head and he just really messed with me.

• 18:05Andrew Santino?

  Was it a case of those who can't? Or was he successful at any point?

• 18:09Speaker 07

  I think it was not a case of those who can't. I think it was a case of got a lot of power out of very fragile artists.

• 18:17Andrew Santino?

  Oh gosh.

• 18:17Speaker 07

  And feeling kind of empowered by how much these artists worshipped him.

• 18:22Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, and needed the...

• 18:23Speaker 07

  And needed, and needed his approval, and did you like it? And he kinda sat on his throne and felt it.

• 18:28Andrew Santino?

  God, I don't like that. We're not gonna mention, hey, my editor Joe. Joe, put up the name of the, of the school right here.

• 18:35Speaker 07

  Seriously. Well, don't.

• 18:37Andrew Santino?

  Don't do it. Don't do it. No, but, uh, but the voice thing, I, I know what you're thinking. We did, um, Bobby and I did, Bobby Lee and I did a, a movie that's on Netflix now called Goat. It's about like the story of a...

• 18:50Speaker 07

  Oh yeah, congrats, man.

• 18:50Andrew Santino?

  Thank you. It was cool. But the whole time...

• 18:52Speaker 07

  It's a basketball thing, yeah.

• 18:53Andrew Santino?

  Steph Curry company produced it about like the, you know, a young...

• 18:56Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 18:57Andrew Santino?

  Uh, young kid making it to the league.

• 18:59Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 18:59Andrew Santino?

  But the whole time Bobby, every recording session, um, which he wouldn't do, we couldn't do without each other because we're super insecure. So we're like, we need to be with each other.

• 19:07Speaker 07

  I love your friendship, by the way.

• 19:09Andrew Santino?

  Well, we're, and, and it's, we do need each other. I think we work well together and we're both announcers. So I was like, we should be in the same room. They're like, you don't have to. I was like, we'd prefer it. And they're like, it's a scheduling nightmare. I was like, I don't care. It's way more fun. It was way more fun.

• 19:21Speaker 07

  Sure, sure, sure.

• 19:22Andrew Santino?

  And they got, so, but the whole time Bobby kept stopping. Like he'd go out for a cigarette break or something and he'd be like, can you come outside? And we'd go outside and he'd be like, I don't, I don't, I think they're, they're gonna fucking, they're gonna can us.

• 19:31Speaker 07

  You know why though?

• 19:32Andrew Santino?

  Is it bad? He's like, it's probably, I think it's bad. Cause you just look in the booth and they'd be like...

• 19:37Speaker 07

  That's the thing.

• 19:38Andrew Santino?

  One more?

• 19:38Speaker 07

  That, that's the thing. What people don't, well, maybe they do realize, you're in a room where there's a glass partition. You have your headphones, you do your bit, everything then goes silent, and then you just hear, you see people's mouths moving.

• 19:49Andrew Santino?

  Oh my God, it's so anxiety inducing.

• 19:52Speaker 07

  And then they're always looking around and they're looking at each other going, I don't know.

• 19:55Andrew Santino?

  And then one guy in the back goes...

• 19:56Speaker 07

  And then they push a button and go, hey, great job, Tony. And then they let go of it and go, I don't know.

• 20:02Andrew Santino?

  It's so anxiety inducing.

• 20:04Speaker 07

  It creates it.

• 20:04Andrew Santino?

  When there's seven executives in a room and then they chat and then one guy goes, "Guys, great stuff." And you're like, "Shit, it's not great." That means they just said, "Not great." Be nice, tell them to do it again.

• 20:16Speaker 07

  We're also performers. We're analyzing every behavior you're giving.

• 20:21Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, you're staring at them.

• 20:21Speaker 07

  I am just analyzing everything that's going on.

• 20:24Andrew Santino?

  It drives me nuts.

• 20:24Speaker 07

  However, what I loved about Pixar is everybody was in the same room. There was no division.

• 20:28Andrew Santino?

  Whoa.

• 20:29Speaker 07

  So, not the actors, we were all separate, but like the director and the scripts, everybody's in the same room. And it's super collaborative and there's no division.

• 20:37Andrew Santino?

  Wow.

• 20:37Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 20:38Andrew Santino?

  But the rumor is, and you told me this before the show, Tom Hanks didn't even do it. It's all AI, so it's, uh...

• 20:43Speaker 07

  I disagree, I disagree.

• 20:45Andrew Santino?

  I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding. But I did find out his brother does a lot of his...

• 20:49Speaker 07

  All this in a tear, like?

• 20:49Andrew Santino?

  Other stuff, yeah.

• 20:51Speaker 07

  His brother does do, I think it does like toys and stuff.

• 20:53Andrew Santino?

  That's so cool.

• 20:54Speaker 07

  I love that I'm the one drinking here.

• 20:56Andrew Santino?

  I'm gonna drink, I'll chug this whole thing if you let me. Okay, hold on, before we go, because I just want to plug some of the new stuff that you have, because it is very cool.

• 21:04Andrew Santino?

  You also have, uh... Oh my God, why can't I say her name? Aaliyah. No.

• 21:08Speaker 07

  Aaliyah.

• 21:09Andrew Santino?

  Aaliyah, sorry. Shaw Cat.

• 21:11Speaker 07

  Shaw Cat.

• 21:11Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 21:12Speaker 07

  Yeah, now I had a brain fart.

• 21:14Andrew Santino?

  Aaliyah, and I think about Aaliyah, the singer, that's why.

• 21:16Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 21:17Andrew Santino?

  Rest in peace, RIP. Your movie comes out...

• 21:21Speaker 07

  With Aali... Oh, that's so fun.

• 21:23Andrew Santino?

  Then you could, are you doing a movie with them as well?

• 21:25Speaker 07

  No, I am, that's so funny, because I...

• 21:27Andrew Santino?

  Was it Summer Girls?

• 21:28Speaker 07

  It's, uh, Wrong Girls.

• 21:30Andrew Santino?

  Wrong Girls?

• 21:30Speaker 07

  We did this movie together called Being the Ricardos.

• 21:32Andrew Santino?

  Hmm.

• 21:33Speaker 07

  And when you said that, I was, I had a moment where I was like, "Oh, Andrew, that's way past."

• 21:37Andrew Santino?

  No, no, no, no. No, see, you have a new one.

• 21:39Speaker 07

  But you're right, you're right, there's one coming up in August with her.

• 21:42Andrew Santino?

  And a movie with Brett Goldstein?

• 21:44Speaker 07

  Yeah, called Office Romance.

• 21:45Andrew Santino?

  That's cool.

• 21:46Speaker 07

  He's a really cool guy.

• 21:48Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, he's funny.

• 21:48Speaker 07

  Have you met him?

• 21:49Andrew Santino?

  He's funny, yeah, very, very funny.

• 21:50Speaker 07

  Do you know I saw you at this Netflix, um... Party.

• 21:54Andrew Santino?

  At Sarandos's house?

• 21:55Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 21:56Andrew Santino?

  Oh, yeah.

• 21:56Speaker 07

  Two weeks ago, I saw you and I saw Bobby.

• 21:59Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 21:59Speaker 07

  And it was so hot out there and I was like, it was so lovely. It was a, it was a really nice party that they threw. And I had this moment of like, oh, I should say, I should, I like them. I should say hi to them. And then I was like, no, I'll just stay, I'll just stay where I am.

• 22:10Andrew Santino?

  I, we did the same thing. We literally said the same thing. He goes, he comes up to me, he's like, do you think I should say anything to David Letterman? And I was like, no, don't leave him alone. That's insane. What would you say? Hey, I love you. And he'll go, sure. Yeah. Awesome. And then pat you on your little head and you'll come back here. I was like, leave everybody alone. Just get out of here. I also.

• 22:29Speaker 07

  He also got it. Did Bobby get a haircut?

• 22:31Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, well, he, he keeps changing his style.

• 22:33Speaker 07

  Cause at first, I had not seen him in a long time and I saw him, I was like, is that Bobby?

• 22:37Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 22:37Speaker 07

  But I think.

• 22:38Andrew Santino?

  Well, he lost a lot of weight too. I think he lost thirty five pounds.

• 22:41Speaker 07

  Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 22:42Andrew Santino?

  GLPs, baby. They're working his magic. I've just talked to a friend the other day who lost a lot of weight without GLPs and he's like, I'm, I'm really mad.

• 22:50Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 22:50Andrew Santino?

  He goes, I feel like the people who got, the people who got their school loans, uh, taken care of. He's like, I'm the guy that's like still, I paid. He's like, what the fuck? Why did I pay? I could have waited?

• 23:00Speaker 07

  Yeah, there's, there's habits though that are being created in him. That's probably, that's good for a long term.

• 23:05Andrew Santino?

  Yes, yes, that, yeah, it's, he's doing great. But yes, we didn't say hi to anybody, but I did prank him afterwards. He left early. I told him, you gotta be the first out. Don't wait, just leave before anybody. And then he called the other way home. Did I tell this story?

• 23:18Speaker 04

  You're a little bit on bad.

• 23:19Andrew Santino?

  I called him on the way home and I said, uh, he's like, what's going on? I was like, dude, you should not have left. He's like, why? I'm like, I'm inside of Sarandos's master suite. He has a theater up here and it's me, Letterman, Seinfeld, Chappelle, and I'm naming everybody. Like all the famous comics that he loves. And I'm like, he's gonna show us like old tapes, like old school, like standup tapes that he's got from his vault. And he was like, fuck, are you serious? I go, dude, I gotta go. I'll call you back. And I hang up and then I called Louis, I called Louis CK, I called him and, and our friend Greg Fitzsimmons. And I called them, told them and they were cracking up. And they were like, are you gonna tell them the truth? I was like, I don't know. Cause he was gonna turn around and come back. I was like, maybe I should make him come all the way back.

• 23:58Speaker 07

  So mean.

• 23:59Andrew Santino?

  I call, I told the truth. I was like, don't come back. I'm just kidding.

• 24:01Speaker 04

  You also said that Ted asked you, where's Bobby?

• 24:04Andrew Santino?

  Oh, yeah, Ted, yeah, I lied. I was like, dude, Sarandos was like, where's Bobby? And he's like, did he? And I was like, I'm covering for you. I said you were downstairs by the bar getting food.

• 24:12Speaker 07

  That's so great. I had to leave before that picture. They did a big picture or something like that.

• 24:17Andrew Santino?

  And I am beautifully in the far corner, as far away Cherry and Terry was like, get in there.

• 24:21Speaker 07

  Were there balloons in there or something?

• 24:22Andrew Santino?

  No, see this, my, who said this? My mom was like, what with the balloon? There were McDonald's place balls. Remember those?

• 24:30Speaker 07

  Oh, yes, yes, yes.

• 24:31Andrew Santino?

  And the photographer was like, throw them at me. And everybody threw them. And then half of the people's faces got blocked. Like, half of the people's heads are like behind a ball.

• 24:39Speaker 07

  Also, so many comics, they're thinking a response to that of like, you want us to do what?

• 24:45Andrew Santino?

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• 27:51Andrew Santino?

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• 27:54Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 27:56Andrew Santino?

  We got your test results back. Will you read them off? No. I want to tell you that my favorite line in the history of Arrested, I know we're going back, but...

• 28:04Speaker 07

  No, please. I'm glad you're going back, because I forget.

• 28:07Andrew Santino?

  We both share it, oddly enough, because we joke about it all the time, is the, like this slow incessant drumming.

• 28:15Andrew Santino?

  And Bateman giving that like great

• 28:17Speaker 07

  Oh yeah.

• 28:18Andrew Santino?

  heartfelt, heavy-handed speech and then him cutting it by going, Buster, you can't do that outside, buddy. But your response

• 28:27Speaker 07

  Oh.

• 28:28Andrew Santino?

  made me laugh so fu- you say, Mom says it's too windy on the balcony. Is

• 28:33Speaker 07

  It's true.

• 28:34Andrew Santino?

  Amaze- it was so funny to me. I rewound it like 10 times. Cause you think the funniest beat is gonna be that reveal.

• 28:42Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 28:42Andrew Santino?

  But the funniest to me is you saying it's too windy outside.

• 28:45Speaker 07

  Also.

• 28:46Andrew Santino?

  It's so funny.

• 28:47Speaker 07

  Also, you can't drum in the wind?

• 28:49Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, no, no, but you can't. But you're right. Buster was right. You cannot drum in the wind. I can't hear my own drumming. His logic was actually perfect.

• 28:58Speaker 07

  You know what's crazy dude, that you said that? I'm not kidding. Maybe last week, so my wife and I, we just moved to Alabama.

• 29:05Andrew Santino?

  Did you really?

• 29:06Speaker 07

  Yeah, we just, a year ago, we moved to Alabama because we needed to be closer to her family and then my family's in Georgia for various reasons and um, we bought this house and no lie, this is crazy this even came out. Uh, in our house, a bird got caught in the house. And I have a broom and I'm trying to swat and it looks exactly like the scene where it's like a bird landed on my pillow. Cause I come in with a broom and I'm trying to get and I'm like, what the, what the hell has happened?

• 29:39Andrew Santino?

  That's so cool.

• 29:40Speaker 07

  It's right out of that scene.

• 29:42Andrew Santino?

  And then you killed it though unfortunately.

• 29:43Speaker 07

  And then I killed this one. Yes.

• 29:46Andrew Santino?

  We had a, we had a hummingbird uh, stuck at Chris's old, an old house he was staying at. And it was in like the, the, um, kitchen.

• 29:56Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 29:56Andrew Santino?

  And we were panicking because it couldn't get out. I was like, it's gonna die if we don't try to like guide it out. And every time we tried to guide it out, it'd come right back in the kitchen. So finally someone was like, I have it. I looked it up. We got, um, uh, uh, uh, water and then put, um, sugar or something, something sweet inside of it. And then put the Tupperware up to it. So it went down to go get it and then Nick took the ball, it's in there and then threw it as hard as he could outside. And I was like, it worked, but I thought that could have killed the bird.

• 30:26Speaker 07

  That, did it?

• 30:27Andrew Santino?

  It could have hit something for sure. Like luckily it went right out the door, but I was like, dude, what if you missed? He's like, missing wasn't an option, I guess. That line by the way, I just, I just want to tell you that.

• 30:36Speaker 07

  Oh, that's nice to say.

• 30:37Andrew Santino?

  And I, I got to do the Newer season or whatever.

• 30:42Speaker 07

  Did you?

• 30:42Andrew Santino?

  One little episode. Yeah, I did a scene with Bateman.

• 30:44Speaker 07

  Oh, fun. Oh, was it in a car? Was it in the car rental?

• 30:47Andrew Santino?

  It was, uh, yeah, the stairs. Yes.

• 30:49Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 30:49Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, some used to car with stairs. Yeah.

• 30:52Andrew Santino?

  It was a great. I mean, for me, it was amazing because I was such a fan of the show. Not of Jason. I hate Jason. Jason's a loathe Jason. But, no, but I was such a fan that I was like, this is incredible to even remotely touch it.

• 31:04Speaker 07

  Oh, same. I mean, I, I to this, Mitch was at that party, by the way. Did you know that?

• 31:08Andrew Santino?

  What?

• 31:08Speaker 07

  Mitch Hurwitz was at that party. Yeah, I saw him and I was so happy to see him because I hadn't seen him in a while.

• 31:14Andrew Santino?

  I didn't know much. This is also a thing about the party. I talked to Bobby. People were there that we knew said they were going, didn't see them there. Like, I was like, I didn't even know there was a lot of people there.

• 31:23Speaker 07

  But, um, so I was, I was and continue to be such a fan of the show. But that was my first job and I was with an amazing cast, amazing writing. And I was like, what is, because it was so layered at the time. Comedy was, you didn't have to think about comedy that much. It was like one, two punch, you know, it was a very used. And he, there were so many jokes that to this day, there's, there's stuff I have not gotten like, if I'm completely honest. When you said that about the drums, I've forgotten about the balcony and the wind. Yes.

• 31:54Andrew Santino?

  It's the best line.

• 31:55Speaker 07

  But it's like, and this happened to me also where somebody, that joke where the doctor comes out and says, you know, his, he, he's lost his arm and, but he'll be, and I, I was at a podcast and I said, well, one of my favorite jokes is when the doctor comes out, he says, he'll be okay. And somebody in the audience goes, no, no, no. He said he'll be all right.

• 32:12Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 32:12Speaker 07

  Because he'll just have a right arm.

• 32:13Andrew Santino?

  Mm-hmm.

• 32:14Speaker 07

  And it was 15 years after doing that joke that I got the joke.

• 32:18Andrew Santino?

  Really?

• 32:18Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 32:19Andrew Santino?

  That's great.

• 32:19Speaker 07

  I just like so many layers that I'm, to this day, I'm just so grateful I was even a part of that.

• 32:24Andrew Santino?

  It was incredible. I mean, honestly, it was like a, a show that I always kind of gauged comedy fans. When I talk to them about that show, I'm like, do you, do you like Arrested? And people are like, I don't, it's, it's a, yeah, I don't, I think I've seen it. And I'm always like, I don't like you. And you're not good. And you're not going to be a good comedian. I always felt like, because if you didn't understand the fun of that show.

• 32:44Speaker 07

  Sure, sure, sure.

• 32:45Andrew Santino?

  I was like, man, you're, that's a.

• 32:46Speaker 07

  My parents never got it. My parents to this day, the only.

• 32:49Andrew Santino?

  My parents for sure.

• 32:51Speaker 07

  The only episode they liked was when Martin Short was on and they're like, now he's funny.

• 32:55Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 32:55Speaker 07

  That's he's funny.

• 32:56Andrew Santino?

  I love when mom and dad do that. Well, my dad grew up, my dad likes Andy Griffith to me, to my dad is like the pinnacle of television.

• 33:02Speaker 07

  Sure.

• 33:02Andrew Santino?

  Like, he's like, that's a, he, he's like, no role that you or any of your friends have done are half as funny as Barney Fife. And I'm like, okay, well, I mean, God bless you. And he's right, whatever.

• 33:12Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 33:12Andrew Santino?

  Whatever, he's right. But it does, it is hard, some people that's just.

• 33:17Speaker 07

  Well, I don't know if that's right, but I, I.

• 33:19Andrew Santino?

  Whatever, I'm gonna let him have it. I'm gonna let, he's gonna call and be like, I heard that episode with Tony. What was that? What were you throwing me under the bus for? But he does do that, but he, but I think if you didn't get that show, like, I showed it. My wife, like, probably knows more about the show than I do, which is insane. And I told her, you know, that I was coming here to do this with you today. And the, the, one of the first lines in the pilot, she always jokes around it, look what the gays have done to me, Michael. You can't just tease that out. That's the, it's like, it leads with such a phenomenal way in that you're like, well, this is gonna be a.

• 33:50Speaker 07

  And her timing, man.

• 33:52Andrew Santino?

  Oh, my God.

• 33:53Speaker 07

  Jessica Walters' timing is so solid.

• 33:56Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, it's impeccable.

• 33:57Speaker 07

  It really is.

• 33:57Andrew Santino?

  And then you went on to do a real junker called Veep, which I do think is one of the, I mean, what a, what a tank show that was. That thing was not a good show.

• 34:04Speaker 07

  Nightmare, could not get out of there fast enough.

• 34:05Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, it was bad.

• 34:06Speaker 07

  Um, I.

• 34:07Andrew Santino?

  Particularly because the, what was her name? Julia? She was, she is.

• 34:09Speaker 07

  I just call her JLD, don't care.

• 34:13Speaker 07

  No, she is a, I mean, it's always such a, cause you've worked with really fun, amazing people. It's always a gift when they're also really nice.

• 34:20Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, you're lucky. Yeah, it's awesome.

• 34:22Speaker 07

  And Julia just came in and was like, it's a team, this is a team sport. Everybody has, everybody's ideas is valuable and I really miss that. I miss the, I miss the friendships. You know, you're living life together and I miss that.

• 34:35Andrew Santino?

  You don't think you'll do a, like a long series like that again?

• 34:38Speaker 07

  Oh, man, I would love to.

• 34:39Andrew Santino?

  You do?

• 34:39Speaker 07

  Oh, you mean, would I do a long series? Oh, I think I meant with Veep, cause I would love for the, there's a period of time. Where the last episode where they kind of jump ahead and I would love to find out a little bit of what happened in between.

• 34:51Andrew Santino?

  Sure.

• 34:51Speaker 07

  Cause I went to jail and then she'd all this kind of stuff, but I'm like, oh, cause I just love those people so much.

• 34:57Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, no, I, well, I'm saying you, there's no chance of them doing that again, you think?

• 35:01Speaker 07

  I mean, I don't want to say no, cause I mean, I've never, I haven't heard anything, but I just, I'm dreaming of it.

• 35:06Andrew Santino?

  God, it'd be so, I auditioned for the show seventy-five times.

• 35:10Speaker 07

  For Veep?

• 35:11Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, I did, I did, I did a lot.

• 35:12Speaker 07

  Seventy-five times?

• 35:13Andrew Santino?

  No, I'm being, I'm being hyperbolic, but I do think it was probably like ten times.

• 35:17Speaker 07

  Oh, I'm sorry.

• 35:18Andrew Santino?

  Julie was in one.

• 35:20Speaker 07

  What was the character, do you mind saying?

• 35:21Andrew Santino?

  Oh my God, it was a bunch of different stuff, but one of them was, they gave me like, uh, it was Alison Jones and they were like, um, Julie was in there to improv with me and it was, um, they gave you the goal, but they didn't want to fill anything else in. Similar to like how Larry did Curb, it was like,

• 35:39Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 35:40Andrew Santino?

  You have to let her know, you're an intern and you have to let her know that like, something really bad is going on somewhere else, like something happened.

• 35:47Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 35:48Andrew Santino?

  And I had said that there was a, a mainline break.

• 35:50Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 35:51Andrew Santino?

  Upstairs and, and there was human waste coming through her office.

• 35:55Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 35:56Andrew Santino?

  And she, it was awesome.

• 35:58Speaker 07

  She laughed?

• 35:58Andrew Santino?

  She did and I was, and I literally called my wife on the way home, I was like, I got it! There's no way I didn't get it!

• 36:07Speaker 07

  Two days later.

• 36:07Andrew Santino?

  I didn't get it! I didn't get it!

• 36:10Speaker 07

  That happened to me on that movie, uh, Tooth Fairy?

• 36:13Andrew Santino?

  Tooth Fairy.

• 36:13Speaker 07

  Years ago, it was with, um,

• 36:15Andrew Santino?

  The Rock?

• 36:16Speaker 07

  With The Rock.

• 36:16Andrew Santino?

  Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 36:18Speaker 07

  And I auditioned for, um, uh, Stephen Merchant's part. And I was in the room and they all were clapping and I think the director even said something like, I mean, whatever. He says something like, well, when I book you or something that really led to that.

• 36:33Andrew Santino?

  When we, when we start shooting this, yeah.

• 36:35Speaker 07

  And I was immediately on the phone with my wife and I was like, sweetheart, we had just had our baby, I was like, we gotta get daycare in Vancouver. Like we gotta do this, obviously, and Stephen Merchant obviously is amazing, but I was like, come on. Like, that roller coaster is exhausting.

• 36:48Andrew Santino?

  Is there anything that you, uh, missed out on that like really hurt that you really, really wanted?

• 36:55Speaker 07

  I mean.

• 36:57Andrew Santino?

  Cause it's always you or Zac Efron. That's who it is. They either cast him or you for every role.

• 37:01Speaker 07

  Yeah, but please, especially with my shirt off.

• 37:04Speaker 07

  I, uh, you know, I, it's, if, if I'm honest, and you might feel this way too, they all so run together. Because every time you go out for something, if you really want it, you know, you put yourself into it and you can't help but think how great it would be.

• 37:18Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 37:19Speaker 07

  And then, this is what's interesting about our business, is we are, our job, and I'm sure you've heard this, our job is to have our emotions on our sleeve. Cause we have to have access to them. And we have to bring authenticity to it. So if, if I'm having to be, need to be vulnerable, and I want it to be authentic, I gotta go there, vulnerability. However, when it comes to rejection, they'll be like, hey, let it go.

• 37:39Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, yeah, exactly.

• 37:41Speaker 07

  Let it go. That doesn't, it doesn't work like that.

• 37:43Andrew Santino?

  Right.

• 37:43Speaker 07

  You know, you can't just switch it. So I, it's hard. Every time, it's hard.

• 37:47Andrew Santino?

  It is hard. I do think, I, I don't try to take it with me. And being a stand-up helps because we just used to like rejection and denial and.

• 37:54Speaker 07

  Now, by the way, also, I think that is, that's a, that you, you have exercised a muscle that is a real gift to this business.

• 38:02Andrew Santino?

  It also is, it's also somewhat of a detriment because you become so hardened that even the wins, sometimes you're not as happy about, which I do think is tough. A lot of stand-ups do this thing where even when you win big, like Louis told a great story about, he, he was like, it sucks that it's hard to know when you're in it as a stand-up because of so much no, no bet, you know, heaviness. He was like, I was going to the Garden to watch, I wanna say it was Billy Joel. I think it was a run of Billy Joel. But he goes, afterwards, only then did it hit me. And someone I think had said to him, like, do you know, like, of all the people inside of this room? The only other person that's been on that stage besides Billy Joel is you in this room?

• 38:45Andrew Santino?

  And he was like, it was so powerful, it like got to me. That it was like, how did I not feel that before? Like I played, he's like, I played Madison Square Garden, and your brain checked out. Was it?

• 38:54Speaker 04

  It's kinda like some of the venues that we've done Bad Friends shows on, there's like pictures of Orson Welles doing like Othello.

• 38:59Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 39:00Speaker 04

  And Bobby's just like getting naked.

• 39:01Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, and Bobby's showing his butthole and Othello was performing, yeah. No, we did like the Ryman, the historic Ryman. They, they put you in a dressing room, they're like, hey, yeah, they're like, this is, this is, this was Johnny's room or June's room or whatever. And you're like, really? We're about to go show his pubes in front of all these people on the same stage?

• 39:21Speaker 07

  I will say, though, there is, it's hard not, because there is a protective layer.

• 39:26Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 39:26Speaker 07

  Of it's all, it's all the wounded child in us that just doesn't want to be hurt and doesn't want someone to make. We go like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna make fun of myself before you make fun of me.

• 39:37Andrew Santino?

  I'll get me before you get me.

• 39:38Speaker 07

  I'll get you, yeah. So it's all that, but it's hard to get past that.

• 39:41Andrew Santino?

  But as a kid, were you like a very, were you outgoing or were you kind of in?

• 39:46Speaker 07

  I was, so I grew up in the South.

• 39:49Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 39:49Speaker 07

  And for a kid that doesn't play sports, it's not a pretty picture.

• 39:53Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 39:53Speaker 07

  So my parents like, what are we gonna do with this kid?

• 39:55Andrew Santino?

  What's wrong with your boy Tony? He don't wanna do nothing. He don't wanna throw a ball or nothing.

• 39:58Speaker 07

  Oh, you wanna dance? You wanna dance? Go dance. But, uh, let me get you a drink.

• 40:05Speaker 07

  But he, uh, they found this theater by the grace of God called Young Actors Theater and then signed me up for it and I kind of was a place I was like, oh, I can be crazy and encouraged, you know? But it was, you know, you're called every name in the book.

• 40:18Andrew Santino?

  We know the name. We know the word. We'll, we'll title it the episode, by the way. That'll be what it's called.

• 40:22Speaker 07

  Because they don't, they don't, back then, I think it's changed, back then, they don't know how to frame it. You know, it's like, you're not into sports, you're sensitive, you're creative. Oh, I know what you are.

• 40:30Andrew Santino?

  I know what you are. We know what Tony is.

• 40:32Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 40:32Andrew Santino?

  Now, we like him just fine. We just don't want him over late night, you know?

• 40:36Speaker 07

  I'm not talking to him.

• 40:37Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, I don't wanna talk. I don't wanna look him in the eye.

• 40:39Speaker 07

  But it's like, that's, that's the category. Um, so it wasn't, it wasn't an easy, an easy time.

• 40:45Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 40:45Speaker 07

  Now, if it's said, it's like, all right.

• 40:47Andrew Santino?

  No, it's not. No, now everything is so, well, the internet in that, right, has helped people get, you know, it's like globalized the States where you're like, everything is everywhere and everyone knows everything now. I mean, there's more exposure. So people in a small town now feel more comfortable being like, I think I wanna try theater. Whereas there was a time when you were like, I think I like theater stuff and people are like, what the fuck? Are you, you're like, what are you talking about?

• 41:08Speaker 04

  It's easier to find a community.

• 41:10Andrew Santino?

  It's way easier. Yeah. And there's more, there's more like, uh, in, in, the bigger, okay. And I'm not generalizing. My dad's from the South, but now in the South. Uh, many metropolitan areas now are so progressive with their culture.

• 41:26Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 41:26Andrew Santino?

  That you're receiving so much more than you ever did before. You know, my dad's from North Carolina.

• 41:30Speaker 07

  Okay.

• 41:31Andrew Santino?

  And different worlds growing up in the, he was in the Appalachian, I mean, he was way up, that's a different world.

• 41:35Speaker 07

  It is.

• 41:36Andrew Santino?

  But now they have so much more access. Like when we went to like, you know, like Raleigh Durham, you go to those places, like they're so culturally artistic and free and your brain goes to North Carolina, but then you see it and you're like, oh no, this is not, this is.

• 41:48Speaker 07

  Cause we live in Birmingham now and it's just like Raleigh. I mean, it's culturally, it's just.

• 41:52Andrew Santino?

  It is.

• 41:52Speaker 07

  A widespread and it's so, the restaurants, I mean, everything is so.

• 41:56Andrew Santino?

  It's cool.

• 41:57Speaker 07

  It really, really is cool. But it's like, that's taken time.

• 42:01Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, a long time.

• 42:02Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 42:02Andrew Santino?

  You go, do you think, do you think this is, do you think this is it for, you'll stay there? Or do you think you're gonna?

• 42:06Speaker 07

  Oh, I do. Yeah, I do think we'll stay there. Yeah. Cause I mean, I've been, I mean, probably, I mean, you travel so much.

• 42:11Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 42:11Speaker 07

  And our business, we travel so much. Um, but for thirty, between New York and LA, we've been in there for over thirty years. And so I think both of us were on the same page. Once our daughter graduated high school, we were both on the same page. It was like, yeah, let's, we need to be a little closer to family. And so I'll travel for work.

• 42:31Andrew Santino?

  She graduates high school, did she go to college or she started the workforce?

• 42:33Speaker 07

  No, she went to, she's at college and she loves it. She's in a sorority and you know, she's just.

• 42:39Andrew Santino?

  You were in a fraternity.

• 42:40Speaker 07

  I was in a fraternity.

• 42:41Andrew Santino?

  Same as my dad.

• 42:42Speaker 07

  Sigma Chi.

• 42:42Andrew Santino?

  You're a Sigma Chi guy.

• 42:43Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 42:44Andrew Santino?

  You know how much I got rattled because my father, I didn't join a fraternity? He's like, what's your problem, man? I'm like.

• 42:49Speaker 07

  Wait, where did you go to school?

• 42:50Andrew Santino?

  I, I went to Harvard of the West. I went to Arizona State. Sorry. I went to Arizona State.

• 42:54Speaker 07

  By the way, same. I went to Samford. People think it's Stanford. And I'm like, no, it's Sam, not Stan.

• 43:00Andrew Santino?

  Let them think what they want to.

• 43:01Speaker 07

  Okay, go ahead.

• 43:01Speaker 04

  Columbia College, Chicago.

• 43:03Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, not Columbia, New York, Columbia College. We all three went to the other one.

• 43:07Speaker 07

  Yeah, exactly. And you can see the disappointment in the face.

• 43:10Andrew Santino?

  I'm honest about it. Whenever somebody's like, where'd you go to college? I'm like, brother, I barely went to school.

• 43:14Speaker 07

  Yeah, well, there's T-shirts at Samford that say Sam, not Stan. It's great. They own it.

• 43:19Andrew Santino?

  They, you have.

• 43:20Speaker 07

  It's a great school.

• 43:20Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, you have to. No, I, I, uh, I, I just wanted to get to the West Coast. That's why I really badly, and I had a this, as the story goes, my father went to Tennessee, so did my little sister. My dad was like, you gotta go.

• 43:32Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah.

• 43:32Andrew Santino?

  His best friend's son and I became friends. They went to Tennessee together. We used to go see football games. He says one day, Andrew, I'm going out to Arizona. You should come with. And I was like, what's in Arizona? He's like, don't you want to do California? I said, I can't afford California, man. He's like, it's right there. He's like, my cousin goes to ASU. And I was like, really? He goes, let's go see it. So I fly out with them.

• 43:53Speaker 07

  Oh.

• 43:53Andrew Santino?

  We have the greatest two days I've ever had in my life. I ended up doing mushrooms on the stoop of the dorm I would eventually be in, which was very surreal.

• 44:02Speaker 07

  Whoa.

• 44:02Andrew Santino?

  With these cool, these people that like were hanging out, listening to music outside. And I was like, I gotta go to school here. Now, it might have been the mushrooms, but.

• 44:09Speaker 07

  Dude, so that, that's not where you, that is where you went. That's not where you went.

• 44:11Andrew Santino?

  I did go to Arizona State. I ended up going.

• 44:13Speaker 07

  So you gra, you went all the way through?

• 44:15Andrew Santino?

  Yeah. And I know that's a surprise. Many of my friends did not.

• 44:17Speaker 07

  What did you, I thought you said that you did it. What did you study?

• 44:20Andrew Santino?

  Journalism and the minor in English. Yeah. Oh, really?

• 44:23Speaker 07

  Same. Journalism, mass communications.

• 44:25Andrew Santino?

  You know what, dude? We're the same guy.

• 44:27Speaker 07

  And I'll tell you, and I'll tell you, this is what people, because they'd be like, oh, wow. I'm like, I use it every day. Because if I'm probably with your material, if I'm editing something, I'm constantly like, what's the joke? Get, cut the fat, cut the fat, cut the fat. And that's all you did in journalism. It's like, where's the point? Where's the story?

• 44:44Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, get to the point, get to the point. I, I also think it helped me because I finally learned, I finally took classes that I like theory and practice of media production. Or like, I took classes that I was like, oh, this is cool. I like, I found the interesting nooks of how to make a thing versus like, I want to make things. And someone's like, okay.

• 45:01Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 45:01Andrew Santino?

  But I don't know how, but I, I just wanted to learn about that. So finally in school, I paid attention because I was like, this is fun. High school for me was real hard.

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• 46:35Andrew Santino?

  I did not want to be there. I was like, this is awful. I was like, can I just go goof off and do drugs?

• 46:41Speaker 07

  Did you also with your, I mean, it's such a gift because with your jokes, which you're a very funny man.

• 46:47Andrew Santino?

  Thank you.

• 46:48Speaker 07

  It's that thing of like, this is, we're circling around it. What's the joke?

• 46:53Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, get inside, just go right to the...

• 46:55Speaker 07

  Did you do, when did you, I know I'm making this about you, but when did you officially start doing stand-up?

• 47:00Andrew Santino?

  I was 22. I moved here, yeah, 06, 05, 06. The girl I was dating at the time threw a knife at me and I said, you know, I think I'm gonna move to LA. I literally, we actually came here to look at an apartment together. And we drove back to Arizona and I had all of this anxiety. I was like, I shouldn't move you here. I was like, this is, we're kids and I'm gonna fail. So I was like, I don't want to ruin your life. And she was like, I want to go out there. I said, I don't, I don't think you do. Like, I think you, she was being sweet. She loved me. She was like, I want to go with you. And one night, she had a couple of drinks. We got into an argument and she threw a knife at me. I was like, I'm gonna move tomorrow by myself.

• 47:40Speaker 07

  There's so many things in the house to throw. That's a very specific thing.

• 47:43Andrew Santino?

  A knife. I was like, I think I gotta go. I think I'm gonna go to, so I moved here 22 and I've been here, I've been here ever since.

• 47:52Speaker 07

  Man, just, do you find that, okay, if somebody said, Andrew, I want you to speak at this conference on, I don't know, vulnerability in comedy or something like that, would you, is that, does that make you nervous because it's, or does it not make you nervous? Because like, obviously if somebody says, I want you to do a set, you're so used to that. But if somebody wants you to speak on a topic, would that make you nervous?

• 48:15Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, harder, much harder to do. Not nervous, but I'd be much more, it'd be much more of a challenge of me, because I want to present it in a way, you want to hit all the beats of like... I wanted to be funny. I wanted to be uh honest and also have humility in it. Like you, I'd want all these things to be conveyed where in stand-up, you're like, I, I, I know what I'm shaping up there. Like, I just did my sister's wedding and that was fucking impossible. They were like, would you officiate it? And I was like, this is really hard.

• 48:42Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 48:43Andrew Santino?

  Because people also think, is he gonna be joking around the whole time?

• 48:47Speaker 07

  Totally.

• 48:47Andrew Santino?

  I'm not. It's my sister's wedding, like.

• 48:49Speaker 07

  And you're also not, as a person, you're not constantly walking around as a joke.

• 48:52Andrew Santino?

  No, I don't do that. So I thought, how do I do this in a way? So I took a long time to like write it and work through it and it was really a challenge.

• 48:59Speaker 07

  Sure.

• 48:59Andrew Santino?

  So that was more challenging by far than doing an hour of stand-up is like, let's go have fun.

• 49:03Speaker 07

  And you're also kind of stepping into the Andrew stand-up character.

• 49:08Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 49:08Speaker 07

  Some, a skin that you know very, very well.

• 49:10Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 49:11Speaker 07

  Another skin takes a little more work, yeah.

• 49:13Andrew Santino?

  I just have to put it on and I do put on other people's skin.

• 49:16Speaker 07

  Great.

• 49:16Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 49:17Speaker 07

  Who doesn't, right?

• 49:17Andrew Santino?

  Who doesn't, man? You got great skin, I wanna wear it. No, what, like what?

• 49:24Speaker 07

  Cause I just, I just, when you said that about the wedding, I just did the commencement speech at my college and I was so nervous.

• 49:31Andrew Santino?

  That is so nerve-wracking.

• 49:32Speaker 07

  It was so, and here, and cause, but people have the same thinking of like, hey, you're in front of people all the time, you do this. I'm so comfortable playing on set or a character or something, it's taken a while, but I have that comfort level. But standing up, being myself, also, it's like a wedding where it's such an important moment of their life.

• 49:48Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 49:49Speaker 07

  You don't wanna mess it up.

• 49:50Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 49:51Speaker 07

  And, I mean, it went, it was actually really fun, but I was very, I was terrified.

• 49:54Andrew Santino?

  Did you watch other people's speeches?

• 49:56Speaker 07

  No, god, no.

• 49:57Andrew Santino?

  No, that would influence you.

• 49:58Speaker 07

  That was psyched me out, yeah.

• 49:59Andrew Santino?

  Like, I've seen a few, I've, I've seen a few ones that I like that are memorable in my mind. And every time I see those, I think, well, that, I couldn't even come close so that it would be, I.

• 50:09Speaker 07

  Yeah, so I'm not gonna do it.

• 50:10Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, they would give me the most anxiety, but also, I'm never gonna get asked.

• 50:14Speaker 07

  And it was very cool to say stuff that I wish someone had told me.

• 50:19Andrew Santino?

  Like, what do you, what, what did you deliver that meant the most?

• 50:22Speaker 07

  The, one of the things that meant the most was.

• 50:26Speaker 07

  I said, if I can tell you, it's like, the value that you have today as a person is the same value you're gonna have before, before, after any success that comes your way. Even though the world will tell you, you have value if you get this job, if you get 2.5 kids, if you whatever, your value will stay the same. God will see you as completely loved and tremendous value. And that was, because it is true, the equation you get in with the world, especially in this business of like, oh, I think subconsciously, I think that. And it's like, having that, and granted, I don't know if they're gonna remember it, but there's real power to like, somebody saying, hey, your value right now is gonna stay the same with whatever happens.

• 51:06Andrew Santino?

  You're right. I think it's, I think they, I think it'd hit more people than you think. Because we get a lot of people that sometimes send us these great fan messages that are like, I don't think you guys understand, my life was in shambles. And just having a laugh helps me get through the bullshit. Because we think, we're like, yeah, we're entertainers, we're clowns, we're having fun, I wanna make you laugh, I wanna make you disappear for a little while. But it becomes kind of, you know, par for the course. So you just kind of go through the motions of having fun and doing the job, until people really say, it's like, it did help, more than you know. So I bet you, you had a lot of people that-

• 51:36Speaker 07

  I hope so. It is weird, though, when you hear that, because like, people say that I'm arrested or something like that. And it's, it's hard to frame it, because you, I see it as like, what? Like, it's like, I'm a narcissistic actor, what are you talking, like, it's like, I don't, but it is a service.

• 51:52Andrew Santino?

  Oh, big time. Well, you're letting people escape. More escapism. I think, we talked about this literally an hour ago. I was like, we need to be more stupid and have more escape, because the world is pretty-

• 52:02Speaker 07

  Oh, wow.

• 52:03Andrew Santino?

  It's just too, without even diving in, it's just, things are kind of, things are kind of sad on a scale where you go, man, I'm confused, like, everything feels pretty heavy now. And it probably always has. It's not just now.

• 52:14Speaker 07

  No, yeah.

• 52:16Andrew Santino?

  But you go through these waves of society feeling a type of way. And the more goofy we are, or the more we let loose on stuff and make people feel something else, I think the better will be.

• 52:25Speaker 07

  And just for a pocket of time to be able to do that.

• 52:26Andrew Santino?

  Yes, little nuggets, because it's not gonna, it's nothing lasts. Like, I watched the Hulk Hogan documentary, which, by the way, I don't, have you seen it?

• 52:34Speaker 07

  No, is that good?

• 52:35Andrew Santino?

  It's brilliant. I'm not, I never was a wrestling fan, but I was interested in the idea of this guy. And something they hit on pretty often is, or the people speaking about him, or how, how at some point, he did kinda get lost as Hulk Hogan and not Terry Barea.

• 52:51Speaker 07

  I didn't even know his real name.

• 52:52Andrew Santino?

  Terry, is that right? Barea, yeah. No, I mean, I didn't either, but like, you have people who have known him for a long time, they go, there was a detrimental part of his career where he thought he was Hulk Hogan.

• 53:01Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 53:02Andrew Santino?

  And that can happen.

• 53:03Speaker 07

  Sure.

• 53:03Andrew Santino?

  And it does in our business a lot.

• 53:05Speaker 07

  Like Pee Wee Herman had happened.

• 53:06Andrew Santino?

  People say it about you too. They go, that's, you know, Tony thinks he's something else. He thinks he's...

• 53:11Speaker 07

  You hear these conversations, don't you?

• 53:12Andrew Santino?

  All the time. No, but he got, but he got lost in it. I think it was very eye-opening. It's a very, um, uh, you know, what's the word? It's a, it's a warning shot almost to the business.

• 53:24Speaker 07

  It did break, because I saw that Pee Wee Herman documentary also. Did you see that?

• 53:27Andrew Santino?

  Awesome.

• 53:27Speaker 07

  It's so good. And it was just the opposite. He didn't want to be, he wanted to be separate from that, but there was such an attack, people just attached it to him, you know, that was hard.

• 53:36Andrew Santino?

  And he was so talented outside of that, which is so funny that that's all people wanted him to be.

• 53:40Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 53:40Andrew Santino?

  But that's a hard thing to escape, because sometimes typecasting is, is golden handcuffs. And so it's, it's hard to, like, you've managed, you've been so dynamic, you, no one's tagged you with anything.

• 53:52Speaker 07

  You know, that's very nice to say. I did this movie over the summer, that came out this past summer, that took us eight years to get made. And-

• 53:59Andrew Santino?

  Eight years?

• 54:00Speaker 07

  Eight years.

• 54:00Andrew Santino?

  For people at home that don't know, that's not that crazy. That happens all the time.

• 54:05Speaker 07

  And it was, I was so proud of it, and it was, it's called Sketch, and I was playing just a dad. I was playing a dad whose daughter is going through this stuff, and it's just a beautiful movie. Um, but it was nice to just be closer to who I am.

• 54:20Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 54:20Speaker 07

  You know, just to have-

• 54:21Andrew Santino?

  A nice, good dad.

• 54:22Speaker 07

  But to have that kind of, you know, just normal conversation, because I love playing my characters. But Buster was always on the defense, like, everything- He even had his hands up, always on defense. And Gary was like, you know, just this, and it's so fun. But just to play a character that was closer to me, even though when this came out, I have to tell you, we went with this certain company, we're thankful it was released. The whole, the whole faith community thought this movie was demonic.

• 54:51Andrew Santino?

  Why?

• 54:52Speaker 07

  Just ridic, it was ridiculous. It was, well, this is a whole soapbox, but it's like,

• 54:59Speaker 07

  it was, it was released on a platform that was typically a faith-based audience, it was a large faith-based audience. Cause they wanted to put us on screens and I was very thankful for that. And a large part of their audience thought it was demonic. And because it was talking about grief and there was, we described like Inside Out meets Jurassic Park. And it was just because it went past their idea of art and how just maybe what they were used to is seeing this platform do stuff. And it was just absolutely mind-boggling.

• 55:30Andrew Santino?

  That people, like people were misinterpreting the message?

• 55:34Speaker 07

  I think they just, they maybe liked a pretty little package of life with a little bow on it. They don't like messy stuff.

• 55:41Andrew Santino?

  Sure, sure, sure.

• 55:42Speaker 07

  You know, they-

• 55:42Andrew Santino?

  It's like if you put The Matrix on Lifetime, they'd be like, I don't know, man.

• 55:45Speaker 07

  Or even the Bible.

• 55:46Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, they're like-

• 55:46Speaker 07

  What actually happened in the Bible.

• 55:48Andrew Santino?

  They're like, we don't, uh-

• 55:49Speaker 07

  They don't want that mess.

• 55:49Andrew Santino?

  We don't want that.

• 55:50Speaker 07

  They like a pretty picture. And, and it's just also grief is messy. And it's, and this was kind of, there was also these, um, kind of, there was monsters in it because her pictures came to life and it was just outside of how they saw, you know, maybe what faith, anyways. And it wasn't even a faith-based movie, but since it was on this platform, all that to say, it was a little bit of a roller coaster.

• 56:12Andrew Santino?

  But I mean, I think the-

• 56:13Speaker 07

  But it's a great film, it's a beautiful film.

• 56:15Andrew Santino?

  Please watch it, go watch it right now. You want to plug it, what, what is the-

• 56:18Speaker 07

  Sketch, it's called Sketch.

• 56:19Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, and where's it on right now, though?

• 56:21Speaker 07

  It's, well, you can get it on like Amazon now.

• 56:22Andrew Santino?

  Amazon Prime, yeah, yeah. But I think that the, we did, him and I, Conan and I just spoke about that, that-

• 56:30Andrew Santino?

  We want, the artists are always like, "I want people to like it." But the real thing you want is people to be challenged a little bit. And so that actually achieved the goal at a better level. Where a lot of people probably did like it. But those that didn't like it, it's probably because it challenged them. But isn't that more beneficial than just like, "It was okay."

• 56:48Speaker 04

  Yeah, the art stuck with them.

• 56:50Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, the art did something too then.

• 56:51Speaker 07

  It is. As a person, because I'm myself, I'm a person of faith. And I think that hits a little harder because I'm like, "Come on." Like, it's almost like you take a picture of a tree and you take a picture of a cross. And you go, "What do you consider as..." They immediately go to a cross. And it's like, "That's a tree." "That is a beautiful creation of God." And you're just limiting, you're putting God in a box. He is so much bigger than how you think.

• 57:19Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 57:20Speaker 07

  And so it's a little crazy-making for me.

• 57:22Andrew Santino?

  I get it.

• 57:23Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 57:23Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, and also, when we have stuff like that where we try to do something subversive or whatever that people kind of have this intense reaction to. I'm always like, "Well, the people that get it, will get it." And the people that don't, and that's kind of...

• 57:35Speaker 07

  And it's challenging, you're right. I mean, it should challenge.

• 57:37Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 57:37Speaker 07

  It absolutely should challenge.

• 57:39Andrew Santino?

  Yeah. I mean, we can't all make super highbrow stuff like Madea films. We can't all do Tyler Perry films.

• 57:45Speaker 07

  One day.

• 57:46Andrew Santino?

  We will.

• 57:47Speaker 07

  They are funny though.

• 57:48Andrew Santino?

  They're so funny.

• 57:49Speaker 07

  He is very funny in that character.

• 57:50Andrew Santino?

  Honestly, it's brilliant. It's genuinely the most streamlined... What's the funniest version that everyone is gonna laugh at at this thing? And it's like, "Oh, well, that's funny. I'm gonna laugh at that." It's ridiculous, but I'm gonna laugh at it.

• 58:03Speaker 07

  It's a good character, yeah.

• 58:10Andrew Santino?

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• 58:55Andrew Santino?

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• 59:17Andrew Santino?

  What, when you, because I'm interested if you want to talk about it.

• 59:20Speaker 07

  Please.

• 59:20Andrew Santino?

  You grew up in, because growing up in the church, yeah? We, I grew up Irish Catholic, and then we got kicked out because my parents got divorced, which you know is...

• 59:28Speaker 07

  Which, where is that in the Bible? Where is that?

• 59:31Andrew Santino?

  It's not, it's not.

• 59:32Speaker 07

  It's so funny because Christ came and let's go to the Beatitudes.

• 59:35Andrew Santino?

  It's not that. It's for some reason that it's just the judgment is so heavy. It's very odd. They do this thing where they're like...

• 59:41Speaker 07

  It is, I mean, not to get, well, I won't say a certain political person, but like, not say, but it's not even highlighting it, but in scriptures, it says, "The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control." That's the fruit of when you follow God. Now, maybe I'm working on two or three on a good day.

• 1:00:03Andrew Santino?

  Right.

• 1:00:04Speaker 07

  But when I can't find one in a person that you're associating with my faith community, uh-uh.

• 1:00:10Andrew Santino?

  It's pretty crazy.

• 1:00:10Speaker 07

  That's not how it works.

• 1:00:11Andrew Santino?

  Right.

• 1:00:12Speaker 07

  You know?

• 1:00:12Andrew Santino?

  Right.

• 1:00:13Speaker 07

  And it's infuriating to me.

• 1:00:14Andrew Santino?

  It is.

• 1:00:14Speaker 07

  Who, I mean, Christ was the one who went to the woman at the well and was like, "You, I saw her." Whereas everybody else cast her out. Like, and for them to do that to your family, that is not Christ.

• 1:00:25Andrew Santino?

  It just makes you, it's very odd that, that...

• 1:00:27Speaker 07

  Oh, it just gets me.

• 1:00:28Andrew Santino?

  Well, because a lot of times, you know, and I'm not pointing fingers at them, but a lot of times, certain sects will decide from a cultural standpoint what they're okay with, less so than what's probably scripture. I think it's more about culture. And now, culture is different, right? This was also a long time ago.

• 1:00:44Speaker 07

  That's a good point, because I think people are typically maybe more afraid of the church than they are of God.

• 1:00:49Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:49Speaker 07

  They're more afraid of the community and kind of the group think than they are of God.

• 1:00:53Andrew Santino?

  Because that is, also at the time, particularly like my grandmother's time, it was imperative to your sense of communal worth, was like, being a good Catholic, or whatever you'd want to call it, or being a good member of the community... It wasn't even about their belief, it was about the community of the church and how people felt about you. Which also, you know, my dad grew up within the South, even it's more prevalent. Cause there, Southern churches more, they, I mean, he grew up in a small town. They know everything about everybody. They can't wait to go, church is where they go to gossip. Church was like TMZ for them. You know what I mean, where they want it, they just want to.

• 1:01:31Speaker 07

  Prayer requests.

• 1:01:32Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, you know who's doing, you know who's doing terrible.

• 1:01:34Speaker 07

  You know who we need to pray for.

• 1:01:36Andrew Santino?

  Exactly, it's just, it's a way to like spread. Bless their hearts. Bless their hearts. Yeah, cause my grandmother, my, uh, in her basement had a salon. And this was like church 2.0.

• 1:01:47Speaker 07

  That's right at the Steel Magnolias.

• 1:01:48Andrew Santino?

  A hundred percent dude. This is 2.0 church. It was like church existed and then so did the salon.

• 1:01:52Speaker 07

  Sure.

• 1:01:53Andrew Santino?

  And these two things were.

• 1:01:54Speaker 07

  Girl, you get in here.

• 1:01:55Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, yeah. Sit down, let me get you some honey.

• 1:01:58Speaker 07

  Listen, listen to what I heard.

• 1:02:00Andrew Santino?

  You, you need to hear what I heard. You know Gina.

• 1:02:03Speaker 07

  Pull that hairdryer up, I got something to tell you.

• 1:02:06Andrew Santino?

  What did she say? What did she say? I can't imagine the amount, but so, so that affected my viewpoint of it.

• 1:02:16Andrew Santino?

  Because it was, you know, and then still had it in another way through a different sect of, of, uh, of Christianity. But it is funny because as a kid, I was like, what are we, bad or something? You know, it does, but it does something to you as a kid.

• 1:02:30Speaker 07

  Of course, of course.

• 1:02:32Andrew Santino?

  And then you, you question which is good, but, um, when your, your life in the church as a kid, was it like, was it you and your, and, and everyone you knew, or was you, you were kind of like, was it your friend group there too, or no?

• 1:02:48Speaker 07

  Um, it was, I think, to your point, I think it was more the Southern community. We were in, we were in church, it was more of, it was kind of a social club.

• 1:02:56Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:57Speaker 07

  I don't, I wouldn't say I probably formed a relationship with God until post-college.

• 1:03:03Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:04Speaker 07

  You know, when, when kind of stuff hit the fan and I, I, I woke up to the fact, oh, I need, I need to lean on something bigger than me.

• 1:03:13Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:13Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:03:13Andrew Santino?

  That's awesome.

• 1:03:14Speaker 07

  And when people say, I think it's, you know, in conversation, like if they see religion or faith as a crutch, you know, I'm always like, ah, give me two crutches, man, life is. Life is not easy.

• 1:03:26Andrew Santino?

  Do you have a religious wheelchair over there? Cause I'd like to roll through life with that.

• 1:03:29Speaker 07

  Sign me up.

• 1:03:30Andrew Santino?

  Well, and then the other thing is I saw it through um a bunch of different versions. Cause of my, my parents' version and then, you know, my biological father. Who was in the program where they find faith very heavily and that's a big part of his life. So I got two different viewpoints of it, which is why I kind of feel the way, I, I feel like I'm a, a meshing of the two. Like I got the traditional stuff and then I got a kind of non-traditional viewpoint.

• 1:03:54Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:03:54Andrew Santino?

  Which ironically, some people who are very faith-based judge the other side of it, but you're like, that's so funny. They're finding it a different way.

• 1:04:00Speaker 07

  It tends to be the language is judgment. And to your point, like when people find out I'm a, my faith is very important to me. You always, I always have to take into consideration, they're looking through so many different filters.

• 1:04:10Andrew Santino?

  Totally.

• 1:04:11Speaker 07

  You know, the religious abuse, the like, I mean, all this kind of stuff. You have no idea someone's story.

• 1:04:16Andrew Santino?

  No.

• 1:04:16Speaker 07

  And so it's always about just trying to be, or I try to always be curious. You're like, please let me know your story.

• 1:04:22Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, let me fill it in.

• 1:04:23Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:04:24Andrew Santino?

  That's good. Man, I got a bigger crush on you now than before.

• 1:04:27Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:04:28Andrew Santino?

  I had one before.

• 1:04:28Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:04:29Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, you know what?

• 1:04:29Speaker 07

  I got a ginger crush.

• 1:04:30Andrew Santino?

  This was his whole goal. When he walked in, he's like, watch me make this guy love me. He's gonna get in the car, call his wife. No, what he was, he was swooning. He was swooning.

• 1:04:39Speaker 07

  All I say is like, mission accomplished.

• 1:04:42Andrew Santino?

  She, you hang up, she gets, she opens a book and, and crosses my name off of people that.

• 1:04:47Speaker 07

  She's like, got him.

• 1:04:48Andrew Santino?

  Got him. That's who we needed last.

• 1:04:51Speaker 07

  What?

• 1:04:51Andrew Santino?

  It is cool to say that you moved down there though. I'm so interested in, in moving away.

• 1:04:55Speaker 07

  By the way, I wear this hat for you because it's orange.

• 1:04:57Andrew Santino?

  I do like that.

• 1:04:58Speaker 07

  And it's Pixar.

• 1:04:58Andrew Santino?

  Oh, it is Pixar.

• 1:04:59Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:05:00Andrew Santino?

  Well, you're the, well, you're Pixar's, Pixar's golden child now. How many Pixar films have you done?

• 1:05:05Speaker 07

  Just two. I'm thankful.

• 1:05:07Andrew Santino?

  Two massive franchises.

• 1:05:08Speaker 07

  Two, yeah. Do you know what's so cool about um being in Toy Story is this character Forky I'm so crazy about? And it's so nice to be able to go back and do him again.

• 1:05:20Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:20Speaker 07

  You know, cause Forky just has the, speaking of curiosity, he's just this like, asks a lot of questions and.

• 1:05:26Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:27Speaker 07

  And then this, in the, the last movie, there was this character named Gabby Gabby, who was kind of this antique evil doll that nobody liked. But Forky didn't really have, he didn't put people in boxes and he was like, I think she's got good hair.

• 1:05:40Speaker 07

  It would just wanna go brush her hair. And it was because of that, then Gabby had her own kind of redemptive story. And you rarely see a villain kind of be restored or come to redemption.

• 1:05:51Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:51Speaker 07

  And in that movie, she did because somebody kind of crossed over and just wanted to get to know her.

• 1:05:55Andrew Santino?

  Pixar does that better than anybody.

• 1:05:57Speaker 07

  It's just the levels are beautiful.

• 1:05:58Andrew Santino?

  I don't know how they're able to do that. So, I mean, and they do it so fast. They're able to build these films out with such like deep sto- They do the thing that Simpsons did for me as a kid, which was like, it's for adults and for children simultaneously. That Pixar has found a way to do so seamlessly. I don't think, I don't think anybody gets close. Oh, ball. Yeah, crying. Yeah, what was the last time you cried in the theater?

• 1:06:19Speaker 07

  Oh, I thought you were gonna say in general. I was like, oh, this morning.

• 1:06:22Andrew Santino?

  This morning, yeah.

• 1:06:23Speaker 07

  I do like to cry, though.

• 1:06:24Andrew Santino?

  You do?

• 1:06:24Speaker 07

  I do like to cry.

• 1:06:25Andrew Santino?

  Favorite place to cry?

• 1:06:27Speaker 07

  Um, I do, uh, in, in, in the morning, I'll, I journal. And so I'll, I'll cry.

• 1:06:32Andrew Santino?

  Cry while you're right.

• 1:06:32Speaker 07

  Devotional kind of journal and cry. Or just kind of sit, I'll sit there and then, you know what actually happens a lot? Oh, this happens a lot. So I've been doing it for about three or four years. Where I try to journal every day and then on the day I look back at each year of what was going on.

• 1:06:47Andrew Santino?

  Oh, wow.

• 1:06:47Speaker 07

  And so to see how, I believe God kind of teaches me through stories, it's just so like, cool. And I'm always blown away by it, yeah.

• 1:06:58Andrew Santino?

  Do you ever go back and add to something or like retake something from before? No, I mean, take it and then-

• 1:07:04Speaker 07

  Just say this didn't happen, but this did.

• 1:07:06Andrew Santino?

  Yeah. By the way, this, this wasn't right. No, you take something from before and then you add, you go, if you're thumbing back and you see something that affected you a type of way, do you use that to write, to put into something new that you're going through now?

• 1:07:16Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And it's also, it's, it's, it's that and it's also, if I'm going through something, there's something that was written that's so in line and encouraging of this. That's, that's right through a book. There's a, there's an amazing author. He was a Catholic priest called Henry Nowlan. And he was just, he worked with a, with a disabled community and was, his writing is so beautiful. And so I write a lot of his stuff down. It's, and, and like, I'll be going through something and just be like, holy shit. Like, it's just perfect, you know?

• 1:07:45Andrew Santino?

  We'll never see any of these writings of yours, though, will we?

• 1:07:47Speaker 07

  No, I've actually told my wife that if I die, to burn them all.

• 1:07:54Speaker 07

  I'm a little too honest.

• 1:07:56Andrew Santino?

  Wait, why? Why? That's good, though. Don't you think that would be amazing to put together in some way?

• 1:08:00Speaker 07

  It's honest and it's also just like.

• 1:08:04Andrew Santino?

  I didn't like my wife's shoes today.

• 1:08:06Speaker 07

  Just kind of, I don't know, it's that kind of, honestly, it's that stuff of, do I want my daughter just, I don't know.

• 1:08:13Andrew Santino?

  Ah, yes.

• 1:08:14Speaker 07

  Because it's really, you want to be as specific as possible.

• 1:08:18Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:18Speaker 07

  And somebody told me to do a digital journaling, and I just like writing.

• 1:08:24Andrew Santino?

  Don't do digital, that's like the worst thing in the world, because then it's there for, then it's there for someone else to take.

• 1:08:29Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:08:30Andrew Santino?

  I feel like digital.

• 1:08:31Speaker 07

  Because they have those journal, like locked ones, where it's all like, you can lock it, and, but then I guess that's, you know.

• 1:08:36Andrew Santino?

  Something, something can get to it, yeah.

• 1:08:38Speaker 07

  What are your thoughts on AI? Cheers.

• 1:08:41Andrew Santino?

  Cheers. Well, it's over. They got us. He's actually not real.

• 1:08:45Speaker 07

  Because so much information you're putting in these AIs, and it's like, where is that going?

• 1:08:50Andrew Santino?

  I know, we, my wife and I spoke about that last, when we were watching the Hulk Hogan documentary, I talked about how, you know, there is a, there's a point of like, people selling their likeness, you know, to the machine. And I said, I think it's only appropriate, like, didn't, um, Bruce Willis did it, didn't he do it? Didn't he sell his likeness? Is that true? There was a deal that was trying to be made to like, buy his likeness.

• 1:09:16Speaker 07

  I love that he went to Susha's wedding.

• 1:09:18Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, isn't it amazing?

• 1:09:19Speaker 07

  I think that's really sweet.

• 1:09:20Speaker 04

  Bruce Willis did not sell his likeness.

• 1:09:22Speaker 07

  Do people say you look like Benson Boone?

• 1:09:24Andrew Santino?

  He does look like Benson Boone. Well, we call him, what did I, come on.

• 1:09:27Speaker 04

  You call me Lord Farquad sometime?

• 1:09:28Andrew Santino?

  He's Farquad, my little Farquad boy, yeah.

• 1:09:31Speaker 07

  Well, that's based in shame.

• 1:09:32Andrew Santino?

  When he's got his hair.

• 1:09:33Speaker 07

  Oh, oh, I see. Because you're too tall for that.

• 1:09:36Speaker 04

  Thank you, Tony.

• 1:09:38Andrew Santino?

  We made him go up to a group of girls at a bar when we were out drinking, and I go, go tell them, go, go up to them and go, have you guys seen Shrek? And they'll inevitably say yes, and then go, it's, it's me. And it worked!

• 1:09:49Speaker 04

  And they liked it, yeah.

• 1:09:50Andrew Santino?

  It crushed. It worked very well.

• 1:09:52Speaker 04

  And then I asked one for her number, and then she said she was a lesbian.

• 1:09:56Andrew Santino?

  She, and then he did this, literally, he went like, I watched him do this, and I was like, what was the fist? He's like, I asked for her number, she said, thank you, but I'm, I'm gay, and he goes, I instinctively just put my fist up as an ally.

• 1:10:09Andrew Santino?

  He didn't know what to do, but it was honestly, this is the funniest thing you could have done.

• 1:10:14Speaker 04

  It was a good outro.

• 1:10:16Andrew Santino?

  And then it was an easy escape.

• 1:10:17Speaker 04

  It was a good escape.

• 1:10:18Andrew Santino?

  You were allowed to then bow out and go, thank you, thank you for your time, goodbye. He didn't sell it. He didn't sell his likeness?

• 1:10:23Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:10:24Andrew Santino?

  So I thought he was going to.

• 1:10:26Speaker 04

  Why would he sell?

• 1:10:26Andrew Santino?

  There's rumors circulating, but no.

• 1:10:28Speaker 07

  Oh, to do future work?

• 1:10:29Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, because, because he's unfortunately sick and he, yeah, and but, but I did say, I said, look, if, if I was sick and on my way out, leaving my family money, like, I get that being like, sell me because I'm going to pass soon. But I was like, I, I hope no one else alive wants to do that. No, we don't have any kids. No, he, well, he's my son, I guess, right?

• 1:10:50Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:10:50Andrew Santino?

  My twenty six year old son.

• 1:10:52Speaker 07

  I don't know if people want to do that to kind of leave something.

• 1:10:55Andrew Santino?

  I know.

• 1:10:55Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:10:56Andrew Santino?

  But then you, then who's in control of your likeness when it's over?

• 1:10:58Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:10:59Andrew Santino?

  I mean, that's the scariest part.

• 1:11:01Speaker 07

  I know a lot of people, uh, during COVID, I don't know them, I heard they kind of sold their voices.

• 1:11:06Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, that was a popular thing to do, yeah.

• 1:11:07Speaker 07

  And for a lot of money, but then they have that voice for, and that's, that's scary.

• 1:11:12Andrew Santino?

  Forever and you'll, and then you end up doing like the, the train or something. Welcome to, it's your voice on whatever city you arrive at.

• 1:11:22Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:11:23Andrew Santino?

  Do you use AI? Don't lie. It's on your phone?

• 1:11:25Speaker 07

  No, I do, yeah.

• 1:11:26Andrew Santino?

  Which one?

• 1:11:27Speaker 07

  Uh, Claude.

• 1:11:28Andrew Santino?

  You use Claude?

• 1:11:28Speaker 07

  Because I listened to a podcast with Oprah.

• 1:11:31Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:31Speaker 07

  Heard of her?

• 1:11:32Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:33Speaker 07

  Um, and, uh.

• 1:11:35Andrew Santino?

  Popular Oprah is.

• 1:11:36Speaker 07

  And they give, I'm not going to get this right, but it's something like eighty percent of their gross is kind of given away to help stuff. I don't know, this is such a, there's, they have a word for it. It's not just.

• 1:11:48Andrew Santino?

  Well, he can look it up. What does Claude do? Claude gives, they give, you saying they're not, the, their, majority of their profits are going to other beneficial things?

• 1:11:56Speaker 04

  It says, uh, the eight percent figure you're referring to comes from the high computing and infrastructure courts associated with the AI workload for heavy reasoning intensive tasks. Computational costs can sometimes consume eighty percent of gross revenue, leaving lower even negative margins unless heavily subsidized by venture capital.

• 1:12:13Speaker 07

  No, I don't know if that's.

• 1:12:15Andrew Santino?

  That's not what he was looking for.

• 1:12:16Speaker 07

  No, type in Oprah podcast, eighty percent Claude.

• 1:12:21Speaker 07

  AI.

• 1:12:22Andrew Santino?

  Can you stick around and do some of this for us if you don't mind? Could we switch? He's gonna do your job from now on. That's literally how you would do it.

• 1:12:28Speaker 07

  Cause I'm wondering if that's, it was something like.

• 1:12:31Speaker 04

  Uh, it says the pledge made by the co-founders of Anthropic, the creators of Claude, to donate eighty percent of their personal wealth generated from the company to fill Anthropic causes.

• 1:12:40Andrew Santino?

  Good.

• 1:12:40Speaker 07

  That's right.

• 1:12:40Andrew Santino?

  Good.

• 1:12:41Speaker 07

  So it's, which I thought eighty percent of their personal wealth, which is a shite load of money.

• 1:12:45Andrew Santino?

  That's a lot of money.

• 1:12:46Speaker 07

  And I like that and they're also very envi- they're environmental because of all the water and they're trying to.

• 1:12:51Andrew Santino?

  Well, cause the water is the biggest, right? Water or wind, right? They're trying to find a way to cool those servers off with wind, cause water's expensive.

• 1:12:59Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:12:59Speaker 04

  Well, and we're just using up fresh water.

• 1:13:01Andrew Santino?

  We're try- but we're try- they're trying to figure out a way to circumvent that, but that is a long process. I mean, look, it's here whether you like it or not. I don't like it, but it's here.

• 1:13:09Speaker 07

  I don't like.

• 1:13:10Andrew Santino?

  But it's not on my phone.

• 1:13:11Speaker 07

  It's not on your phone.

• 1:13:12Andrew Santino?

  No, he knows I don't use it. I've never used it. I've never used it.

• 1:13:15Speaker 07

  You've never used it?

• 1:13:16Andrew Santino?

  Well, unfortunately, you've used it if you've Googled because Google now has AI internally built search engines. So you don't have a choice.

• 1:13:21Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:13:21Andrew Santino?

  But I don't speak to a AI.

• 1:13:26Speaker 07

  I'm cons- okay.

• 1:13:27Andrew Santino?

  App or what?

• 1:13:28Speaker 07

  I'm considering, cause I, uh, I try to, with apps and stuff, you know, like staying present and stuff is, is tough for me.

• 1:13:36Andrew Santino?

  So hard.

• 1:13:37Speaker 07

  So, I'm like, excuse me.

• 1:13:39Andrew Santino?

  Get it out.

• 1:13:40Speaker 07

  It's the gen, man.

• 1:13:40Andrew Santino?

  It's alright.

• 1:13:41Speaker 07

  But it's a, I'm trying to get rid of as many, even my browsers. So like Safari and stuff on my phone. So I kind of, my wife has a code that I can't download anything.

• 1:13:50Andrew Santino?

  Really?

• 1:13:52Speaker 07

  But I have AI, cause if I need a question, or if I have just a question about something like, you know, what's, where's the restaurant, da, da, da, I just use that.

• 1:13:59Andrew Santino?

  That's, that's really smart. And your wife has you locked out?

• 1:14:02Speaker 07

  She has me locked out. Like, she has a code, I can't, I, my app store is taken off my phone.

• 1:14:07Andrew Santino?

  Oh, that's good.

• 1:14:08Speaker 07

  And the browser's taken off, and I can't download or upload. I'm sorry, I can't dow- I can't download or erase.

• 1:14:16Andrew Santino?

  The easy transition here for me is, this is a massive through line of Toy Story 5.

• 1:14:23Speaker 07

  Please.

• 1:14:24Andrew Santino?

  Is tech.

• 1:14:24Speaker 07

  Oh, is tech.

• 1:14:25Andrew Santino?

  It's crazy.

• 1:14:26Speaker 07

  Great transition.

• 1:14:26Andrew Santino?

  No, it is. I mean, it's, it's the thing I thought about the most. Whiskey ginger knows what he's doing. We know what we're doing. No, but it is true. It's the biggest, one of the biggest, when I saw the original, the trailer, I was like, ah, it's interesting. I, I always thought like, when are we going to, how heavily interjected is that gonna be into children's entertainment? And.

• 1:14:45Andrew Santino?

  That's interesting that they're saying.

• 1:14:46Speaker 07

  But that's what I do love about Pixar. I don't think that they would have done another one if they didn't have a story.

• 1:14:50Andrew Santino?

  That's a good story.

• 1:14:51Speaker 07

  And it's a good story.

• 1:14:52Andrew Santino?

  Cause it's so real.

• 1:14:53Speaker 07

  I have not seen it yet, so I'm, I'm curious.

• 1:14:56Andrew Santino?

  It's really good. You should see it. You're good. Yeah, you're very good.

• 1:14:59Speaker 07

  I knew you'd see it before me.

• 1:15:00Andrew Santino?

  We do have some notes. Can you bring up the notes if you don't mind?

• 1:15:02Speaker 07

  But you know, that's my favorite comeback of anything. Like if somebody did something and just wanna throw out a joke, I said, I've got some notes, but. It's like my favorite comeback.

• 1:15:14Andrew Santino?

  Good. I have a, I have a couple.

• 1:15:16Speaker 07

  You did so good. Couple notes.

• 1:15:18Andrew Santino?

  Couple notes.

• 1:15:19Speaker 07

  But just the, you know, the technology of it all, just how to, the toys meets tech, you know?

• 1:15:25Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, it's so funny. Not, it's like I'm, I sound like I know what I'm talking about, but it is, it's funny. It took them this long to talk about it because it's so prevalent that we grew up with toys. Toys now are tech. Tech is a part of toys. Inevitably, it's become, like Teddy Ruxpin was like a revolutionary thing that it spoke to kids.

• 1:15:41Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 1:15:42Andrew Santino?

  And then after that, it was like, well, the toys were so removed from tech and now they're blending again to be one. So that's an interesting idea that like the iPad, which is a massive piece of toy technology to every friend I have with a kid.

• 1:15:56Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:15:56Andrew Santino?

  That it becomes like iPad fa- in your face.

• 1:15:58Speaker 07

  Hmm.

• 1:15:59Andrew Santino?

  Like I see a two-year-old knows how to o- open phones.

• 1:16:03Speaker 07

  I know. It's wild.

• 1:16:04Andrew Santino?

  It's crazy.

• 1:16:04Speaker 07

  That babies in the past 10 years were born into touchscreen.

• 1:16:10Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, it's wild.

• 1:16:10Speaker 07

  You know, I just, I mean, like, I remember hearing about that and being like, that's Martian territory.

• 1:16:17Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, we're in space.

• 1:16:18Speaker 07

  To be able to tou- to touch something and move it. That's nuts.

• 1:16:20Andrew Santino?

  So weird.

• 1:16:21Speaker 07

  That's what that is, is Minority Report. Man, when he was at the.

• 1:16:23Andrew Santino?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:16:24Speaker 07

  He was like, zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom. And I was like, what is happening? And then, and then do you remember in the first Harry Potter when the people were talking on screens and stuff like that? And I was like, that is crazy. And then you go to Times Square and it's like, everybody's talking on screens.

• 1:16:38Andrew Santino?

  Constantly.

• 1:16:38Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:16:39Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, it did feel like that was miles and miles away.

• 1:16:41Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:16:42Andrew Santino?

  No, you're inside of it.

• 1:16:43Speaker 07

  Look at your whiskey collection. Do people bring you whiskeys?

• 1:16:46Andrew Santino?

  We do have some over there. Guy Fieri brought me his Blanco Tequila. Guy Fieri, I should say. I always say it wrong. Uh, that's from, that Porosus is vodka. So there's a bunch of others, Mick, then that's from Tom Segura and Britt Kreischer. And then, uh, Father Time is in there from, uh,

• 1:17:01Speaker 07

  Oh, Jim Gaffigan, yeah.

• 1:17:02Andrew Santino?

  Have you ever had his?

• 1:17:03Speaker 07

  Yeah, uh, no, I don't like whiskey.

• 1:17:05Andrew Santino?

  Wait, why don't you like bourbon? We, I, we, you flew right by it.

• 1:17:08Speaker 07

  It, well, it doesn't sit well with me. There's something about it just,

• 1:17:10Andrew Santino?

  Crumbly tumbly?

• 1:17:11Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah, crumbly tumbly, yeah.

• 1:17:12Andrew Santino?

  What about beers?

• 1:17:13Speaker 07

  No, God, no.

• 1:17:14Andrew Santino?

  Definitely no beer.

• 1:17:15Speaker 07

  I would say beers, wines, some wines are okay. Uh, uh, whiskeys, bourbons, gin, I don't even like vodka. Gin is the only one I'm like, I like, I can handle.

• 1:17:26Andrew Santino?

  Well, gin I respect. That's why, that's the only reason why we're having it.

• 1:17:29Speaker 07

  I love, I love, I love an ice cold gin martini.

• 1:17:33Andrew Santino?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:17:33Speaker 07

  With a wash of vermouth and an olive and a, and like a twist.

• 1:17:38Andrew Santino?

  Ooh, he likes a twist.

• 1:17:39Speaker 07

  Yeah, cause I like the salty sweet.

• 1:17:41Andrew Santino?

  Now, when you say the wash, you like it, they just wash the glass, but don't leave any in.

• 1:17:45Speaker 07

  Don't leave any.

• 1:17:45Andrew Santino?

  Get it out of there.

• 1:17:46Speaker 07

  Get it out of there.

• 1:17:46Andrew Santino?

  I do, I, I saw some award-winning Japanese bartender speak about this, that you, he kept the glasses like, ungodly cold, like frozen to a level that, that only Japanese know how to do. And I'm sure they're all the exact same temperature.

• 1:17:59Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:17:59Andrew Santino?

  And they literally like dip it, like as if you were dipping a, you know, ice cream in, in chocolate. He like dips it in there and lets it sit for a certain amount of time, then he removes it in a way, and it's so cold that he like swipes it out and it like crests the side.

• 1:18:12Speaker 07

  Oh, it's so good.

• 1:18:13Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:18:14Speaker 07

  It's so good.

• 1:18:15Andrew Santino?

  Only the Japanese. Have you been to Japan, by the way?

• 1:18:16Speaker 07

  No.

• 1:18:17Andrew Santino?

  Oh, you wanna have the best whatever you like?

• 1:18:20Speaker 07

  Really?

• 1:18:20Andrew Santino?

  Whatever, I always say like, whatever you like.

• 1:18:22Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:18:23Andrew Santino?

  They do the best version of that. Whether you're like, I want a gin martini, or I like, uh, you know, a certain kind of seafood or, they do it in a way, and it's usually like just one little old man who's been doing it for 58 years.

• 1:18:34Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 1:18:34Andrew Santino?

  And he's, it's by himself.

• 1:18:35Speaker 07

  Just mastered it.

• 1:18:36Andrew Santino?

  And you leave and you're like, how much do I owe? And they're like, $40.

• 1:18:39Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:18:40Andrew Santino?

  For like the greatest experience you've ever had. And meanwhile here, you're like, go get a coffee for $19.95.

• 1:18:48Speaker 07

  I had to have a talk with my daughter because she's at college and this coffee generation.

• 1:18:52Andrew Santino?

  You seeing the credit card numbers pilot?

• 1:18:53Speaker 07

  Unbelievable.

• 1:18:55Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, it's bad.

• 1:18:56Speaker 07

  And it's, it's the social hangout. It's like, let's grab a coffee, let's grab a coffee. And I'm like, well, you do have a card at your college.

• 1:19:02Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:03Speaker 07

  Where you can swipe for food anytime you want.

• 1:19:05Andrew Santino?

  Right.

• 1:19:05Speaker 07

  But it's going to all the cool coffee shops.

• 1:19:07Andrew Santino?

  Well.

• 1:19:08Speaker 07

  I know.

• 1:19:09Andrew Santino?

  What are you gonna do?

• 1:19:10Speaker 07

  What are you gonna do?

• 1:19:10Andrew Santino?

  I mean, we didn't have that, like, I didn't know one friend. I, that's not true. I knew a couple of kids, but pretty rarely do I know someone that had like a credit card of their parents or whatever now, and this is, this is, this is totally normal now.

• 1:19:22Speaker 07

  I didn't have any frie- I didn't have many friends who drank coffee.

• 1:19:25Andrew Santino?

  No, no, no, not in college. Nobody drank coffee. They drank a beer in the morning, maybe, yeah.

• 1:19:29Speaker 07

  That was like for like eighty year olds at some diner.

• 1:19:33Speaker 07

  You know?

• 1:19:34Andrew Santino?

  What are you, an old guy? What are you doing?

• 1:19:35Speaker 07

  That was just like nasty.

• 1:19:36Andrew Santino?

  It's, uh, it's cultural, but it's also sugary, sweetie, blah, blah, blah. I'm still old school. I'm a loser. I have, I have a pot of coffee every morning at the house and it's drip. I'm old school drip guy. I'm not a...

• 1:19:48Speaker 07

  What, what does that mean, drip?

• 1:19:49Andrew Santino?

  Just a drip coffee, just an old school drip coffee, like a traditional Mr. Coffee machine.

• 1:19:53Speaker 07

  Cause now when you get a coffee shop, it's super like, drip is like, kind of, has an elegance to it.

• 1:19:58Andrew Santino?

  No, this is like old school. I buy it from the coffee shop next door to here. I bring it home. I scoop it. I, I, I make a... I don't make a full pot now, cause my wife is like, "You're consuming a scary amount of coffee." I, I would. I'd have like three or four cups in the morning and then I'd have probably another one during the day.

• 1:20:14Speaker 07

  But don't you love that, like, when you get it, that warm and then that first sip? Yeah, and just kind of settle down.

• 1:20:19Andrew Santino?

  My dog comes downstairs. My wife will still be upstairs. I'll be looking out.

• 1:20:24Speaker 07

  Is your wife in the, in the business?

• 1:20:25Andrew Santino?

  No, no, she's a human. She's a regular human. No. She, is your wife in the business?

• 1:20:30Speaker 07

  She was a makeup artist.

• 1:20:31Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, that's right. Yeah. But, but that's not the same as, she wasn't...

• 1:20:36Speaker 07

  She wasn't a performer.

• 1:20:37Andrew Santino?

  Right. Uh, Al Madrigal, the great comic Al Madrigal says, "One headshot per household." That was his rule. One headshot per household. And it, and it like singed into my brain, kind of like the professor saying that, that nonsense.

• 1:20:48Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 1:20:49Andrew Santino?

  One headshot per household. And I was, I was argumentative. I was like, "People, that's not true. It happens the other way all the time." And he's like, "How many are still together?" I was like, "There, everyone's working on everything, Al."

• 1:21:00Speaker 07

  Was there something that singed in your mind outside of that that has just really laid a foundation?

• 1:21:06Andrew Santino?

  Uh, like a quote, like a quote, a passing quote?

• 1:21:09Speaker 07

  Or just something that somebody said to you that it has been always hard to shake?

• 1:21:14Andrew Santino?

  Oh, that's really, why do you have one in your mind?

• 1:21:16Speaker 07

  Well, mine's that voice.

• 1:21:17Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, that voice still got you. I think, I think, um...

• 1:21:23Andrew Santino?

  What stayed in my mind?

• 1:21:24Speaker 07

  It's okay if you don't have one.

• 1:21:25Andrew Santino?

  Really good question. No, I have to think about like what, what pops into my head. You know, for me, unfortunately, it's like little, it's snippets or things that I think are facts that are told to me that I probably have regurgitated that are not true or lies. You know, when you like hear a story or you tell, like I was, I talked to, uh, my whole life, my, we'd listen to Irish music with my grand grandparents.

• 1:21:45Speaker 07

  That's precious.

• 1:21:47Andrew Santino?

  Well, but then there were certain songs where I was like, yeah, my grandmother loved that song. And I said this to my brother-in-law's parents. Cause I Googled the facts of the song, Danny Boy, you know?

• 1:21:58Speaker 07

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:22:00Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought that was like an old school, like beautiful Irish. It's written by an English guy, a British guy did it. It was like a British pop song almost. And you're like, oh, that's really disheartening. So like, I think I've, you hear things about like what's traditionally something or that's more what I do. I'll regurgitate a thing I heard.

• 1:22:16Speaker 07

  The melody was an old Irish melody, but the folks on lyrics were.

• 1:22:20Andrew Santino?

  But the lyrics we know are from an Englishman. And yuck, we can't deal with that. That's not gonna be, and sorry, no offense to you, Mayflower.

• 1:22:26Speaker 07

  Thank you.

• 1:22:27Andrew Santino?

  I don't have any. I'm trying to, I'm trying to, I'm trying to think of something.

• 1:22:32Speaker 07

  That's interesting you said about the stories, cause I have, I recently went back to Tallahassee where I grew up. And I gathered some high school friends together and, um, just like to, you know, hang out. And a large part of it was I wanted us just to tell stories.

• 1:22:46Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:46Speaker 07

  Those stories, cause I don't remember much. And then there was a couple of them that I was like, is this, is this how you remember it? Because when you tell something for decades.

• 1:22:56Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:56Speaker 07

  Like, have I completely twisted this story? And thankfully I hadn't.

• 1:22:59Andrew Santino?

  Have you seen the movie Big Fish?

• 1:23:01Speaker 07

  Oh, a long time ago.

• 1:23:02Andrew Santino?

  I think it's one of the best movies of all time. Billy Crudup. Here's why I think it's so brilliant. It's exactly what you're talking about. And I watch it, like, I'll re-watch it like every year or so. Cause I'm fascinated with the idea of like, we all do this. Where if people that don't know, it's a great movie, Billy Crudup's father is dying and he takes his new, his now wife and new child to go see their dying grandfather. And he has a very, uh, disjointed relationship with this man. And.

• 1:23:28Andrew Santino?

  As the story goes, it's, it's, his father's retelling of these life stories are always big fish stories. Like, it was a, it was a.

• 1:23:36Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:23:37Andrew Santino?

  But Billy internally is fighting this thing to not call his father out all the time. He'd be like, you're a liar, Dad. That's not what happened.

• 1:23:45Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:23:45Andrew Santino?

  But the, the, the truth of the film is, sometimes isn't the story better? That it's a big fish story? I mean, that's the beauty of that movie, and it's done so well.

• 1:23:55Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 1:23:55Andrew Santino?

  That you're like, yeah, what is better? Because it's not a harmful lie. It's like a, it's a beautiful, he's telling it in a way of fantasy, so it, so it enhances the.

• 1:24:05Speaker 07

  And it's, it's theatrical.

• 1:24:06Andrew Santino?

  It's beautiful.

• 1:24:07Speaker 07

  I'm sure you do this with your wife. Like, there are stories that, when somebody says something, my wife and I have stories that we just love to share together.

• 1:24:15Andrew Santino?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:24:16Speaker 07

  And it's the experience of, I mean, one, one we told recently of like, um, I had, in the show I had to do, and some much longer story, I had to do the sex scene. And I was terrified to do a sex scene, because I've just never had to do one.

• 1:24:29Andrew Santino?

  Was this your first time doing one?

• 1:24:31Speaker 07

  Do one, every one.

• 1:24:31Andrew Santino?

  Oh, wow.

• 1:24:32Speaker 07

  And I was so scared.

• 1:24:33Andrew Santino?

  Unarrested, unarrested.

• 1:24:35Speaker 07

  It was Unarrested Development. I mean, come on, not right there. But, uh, and I went up to my wife and I was like, sweetheart, I'm really, I'm really nervous. She's like, I don't care what you have to do. I need a new couch.

• 1:24:50Andrew Santino?

  Mama wants drapes.

• 1:24:51Speaker 07

  Exactly. She was like, you tell them to get that camera.

• 1:24:55Andrew Santino?

  Right in there. Get right in there. Now, during it, were you really?

• 1:25:00Speaker 07

  I was nervous, yes.

• 1:25:01Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, like, I haven't done a lot. I have, I've only, I did a, I did a show called I'm Dying Up Here, where I had to do, um, the hardest thing for me was not even my scene. I was walking in.

• 1:25:12Speaker 07

  That was the Jim, the.

• 1:25:13Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, Jim show. I walked in on a sex scene, and that was harder for me to do, because I have to, Jake Lacy, my boy, my, my love.

• 1:25:22Speaker 07

  Oh, Jake Lacy?

• 1:25:23Andrew Santino?

  One of my favorite people of all time.

• 1:25:25Speaker 07

  Oh, he's, he, we did Being in the Riccardo's together.

• 1:25:27Andrew Santino?

  I know. He talks so much shit about you, by the way. It was crazy.

• 1:25:30Speaker 07

  Why am I hearing about this now?

• 1:25:31Andrew Santino?

  I know, we should have emailed you, but.

• 1:25:33Speaker 07

  He's so kind to me.

• 1:25:35Andrew Santino?

  He's the greatest.

• 1:25:36Speaker 07

  No, he's actually a really great dude.

• 1:25:37Andrew Santino?

  And he's a great actor, and so I had a hookup scene, but like, it wasn't that nerve wracking, Ari Grayner, and, and I were, and it was kind of like fun, and we were smoking a joint. It was like, it wasn't like intense. But the hardest one for me, like Jake was. Having sex and I walk in on them and I'm supposed to like have this entire conversation with him. And they're naked and his ass is like in my face line when I first show up like he's doggy style. I'm standing there like this is so hard to do because I'm supposed to like really be in this character like I'm upset at him. I'm really mad and also I'm I'm upset that like he's hooking up and he's getting more success in the business than I am.

• 1:26:20Andrew Santino?

  And I have all this stuff, but the whole time I'm staring at like my buddy naked. It's hard to not laugh.

• 1:26:25Speaker 07

  And you're like, I mean, I've envisioned it, but like.

• 1:26:28Andrew Santino?

  It was just hard to be like, if it, by the way, it would have been better if it was strangers or actors that I.

• 1:26:33Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 1:26:34Andrew Santino?

  Had no relationship with.

• 1:26:35Speaker 07

  Yes, that's oof.

• 1:26:37Andrew Santino?

  It's hard when it's someone you know. Yeah, it was tough.

• 1:26:39Speaker 07

  That is.

• 1:26:39Andrew Santino?

  No, but when you, when you, when you, when, when mama needs a new couch, mama needs a new couch.

• 1:26:44Speaker 07

  And it was really tricky because it was, I'm also like in my 50s, like I don't, but the scene made a lot of sense. And we had talks about, you know, what I was comfortable with, what I wasn't comfortable with. But I've never had, I've never had to do something like that. I mean, Buster Bluth, come on.

• 1:26:58Andrew Santino?

  Buster Bluth, come on. But you'd do it again now, though. Another sex scene.

• 1:27:03Speaker 07

  Hmm, it depends.

• 1:27:04Andrew Santino?

  Really? You think you might turn it down?

• 1:27:06Speaker 07

  No, I mean, I, well, that's, um.

• 1:27:09Andrew Santino?

  If it came up again.

• 1:27:10Speaker 07

  Well, that again, it'll, if I go to my wife, she'll say, how much? That's all she, like, how much are they offering?

• 1:27:14Andrew Santino?

  I like your wife already. She's smart.

• 1:27:16Speaker 07

  Because I'll be like, well, this could be really destructive to my psyche. And she's like, we can pay for therapy with that money.

• 1:27:22Andrew Santino?

  Smart woman, dude. She figured it out.

• 1:27:24Speaker 07

  She got a house.

• 1:27:24Andrew Santino?

  She's like, there's an answer to everything, my friend. Yeah. Just get naked and go do the thing. All right. I don't want to keep you longer. I know you're on a, you've been on a big run, but I appreciate you very, very much.

• 1:27:34Speaker 07

  This is so fun.

• 1:27:35Andrew Santino?

  I really appreciate you coming. You can have this, by the way, because I'm not going to drink it, but are you going to be even, is this going to be worth it to have? Yeah, you should keep it.

• 1:27:42Speaker 07

  I'll take, I'm trying to think if I can pack it. I guess, oh, I can, yeah, because I, it's not, I don't have a carry on. I can pack it.

• 1:27:46Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, pack it.

• 1:27:47Speaker 07

  I don't have that at my bar.

• 1:27:48Andrew Santino?

  Take this.

• 1:27:49Speaker 07

  Like I have a bar in my little area. Yeah.

• 1:27:51Andrew Santino?

  Do you have a bar? We showed the picture of his bar. We'll split up a picture of his insane bar. No, but, um, I appreciate you being here and I want every, everybody will go, everybody will see Toy Story 5.

• 1:28:01Speaker 07

  It's such a, I say this, it's going, I've not seen it yet, but I'm sure it's.

• 1:28:05Andrew Santino?

  It's gonna be amazing.

• 1:28:06Speaker 07

  It's gonna be amazing.

• 1:28:06Andrew Santino?

  And, and the other 37 projects that you're working on. If I do get down to the south, hopefully I'll knock on your door and say hi.

• 1:28:12Speaker 07

  I would love it. I would love for you to come as well.

• 1:28:14Andrew Santino?

  Tony, well, he will be, he is my, he's with me. If I'm there, he's there. He doesn't go without me. He's not allowed to go anywhere without me. Isn't that right?

• 1:28:21Speaker 07

  But it's also really, you know, when people come in town, I'm sure when you go to town, it's like, you know, it's you're from place to place. It's nice to have that kind of connection.

• 1:28:29Andrew Santino?

  Oh, I will be bothering you.

• 1:28:30Speaker 07

  If you're in Birmingham, please let me know.

• 1:28:31Andrew Santino?

  I'll bother you, I promise.

• 1:28:32Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:28:32Andrew Santino?

  We end the show the same way. Uh, you look into that camera and you say one word or one phrase to end the episode. It used to be, used to be, um, imparting words of wisdom. Sometimes people like to say one singular word, but either way, keep in mind, this will end up in the Smithsonian. We've already submitted.

• 1:28:49Speaker 07

  Oh, really?

• 1:28:50Andrew Santino?

  For the rest of time, we're gonna collectively put together.

• 1:28:52Speaker 07

  One of many of my things, am I right? Please, I got a plenty of stuff.

• 1:28:56Andrew Santino?

  Did you bring me an Emmy? I wanted one of them. No?

• 1:28:58Speaker 07

  What if I was like, chunk, chunk?

• 1:28:59Andrew Santino?

  I would love it. I would love, we actually, we actually did a bit. Lamorne, Lamorne Morris.

• 1:29:05Speaker 07

  Oh, such a nice guy.

• 1:29:06Andrew Santino?

  Happy Gilmore 2.

• 1:29:07Speaker 07

  He was at that Netflix thing too.

• 1:29:08Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, we did Happy Gilmore 2 and one of the jokes, which never made it into the cut, was we panned out and Lamorne was there the whole time.

• 1:29:15Speaker 04

  One of the, like, the villain was on Bad Friends.

• 1:29:18Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 1:29:18Speaker 04

  And, and then he was like promoting, and then, and then Andrew and Bobby were watching the golf climax. And then at one point it cut over revealing that while they were watching the game, Lamorne was on.

• 1:29:28Andrew Santino?

  He was just on the show and he was holding the Emmy and he was like, do we, are we gonna?

• 1:29:31Speaker 04

  Are we gonna get started any time?

• 1:29:31Andrew Santino?

  Get started or something? And we're like.

• 1:29:33Speaker 07

  Oh, that's great.

• 1:29:33Andrew Santino?

  And we're shushing him away with his Emmy. He's like, okay, I mean, I brought it. It was, it was very funny.

• 1:29:38Speaker 04

  It was very funny.

• 1:29:39Andrew Santino?

  We did, uh, we actually melted it down because we needed the gold.

• 1:29:42Speaker 07

  Oh, is it gold?

• 1:29:43Andrew Santino?

  Money's tight.

• 1:29:44Speaker 07

  Okay.

• 1:29:44Andrew Santino?

  It's not, well.

• 1:29:45Speaker 07

  Good to know.

• 1:29:45Andrew Santino?

  Yours are chocolate. I just want to let you know. They told me it was chocolate. Yeah, feel a pack. Um, that camera, one word or one phrase. Impart a word of wisdom. It could be funny, it could be sweet, it could be whatever you want.

• 1:29:56Speaker 07

  Um, I have two.

• 1:29:58Andrew Santino?

  Oh, please.

• 1:29:58Speaker 07

  Can I say two?

• 1:29:59Andrew Santino?

  You can.

• 1:30:00Speaker 07

  They're both kind of heavy. Not heavy.

• 1:30:01Andrew Santino?

  No, I like it.

• 1:30:02Speaker 07

  But I do, well, the first one is when I booked, quickly, when I booked Arrested Development, it was my dream and it scared me because it didn't satisfy me the way I thought it was gonna satisfy me. And it, and it was, I woke up to the lesson that if you're not practicing contentment where you are, you're not gonna be content when you get what you want. Um, and then I always love to tell people it's gonna be okay. It's gonna be okay. In here, we pour whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey. Oh, that creature in the ginger beard! Sturdy and ginger. Like that, the ginger gene is a curse. Gingers are beautiful. You owe me five dollars for the whiskey.

• 1:30:41Speaker 00

  Ginger, oh hell no. This whiskey is excellent. Ginger. I like gingers.

• 1:30:51Speaker 00

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