#297 Nick Shirley - Inside California’s $222 Billion Medi-Cal Crisis

Nick Shirley is an American independent journalist, YouTuber, and content creator known for on-the-ground investigative reporting and street interviews. He initially gained attention as a teenager producing prank and shock-style content, including a 2019 video documenting a solo trip to New York at age 16. He later transitioned into political and cultural journalism, focusing on protests, immigration issues, and government accountability. Originally from Utah, Shirley has built a digital audience of over 1 million YouTube subscribers and hundreds of millions of views across platforms. His reporting style is direct and minimalist, often conducted in real-time and on location. In December 2025, Shirley drew national attention with a viral investigation into alleged fraud in Minnesota’s government-funded childcare programs, claiming over $100 million in misused funds. The video amassed more than 100 million views on X and contributed to increased public scrutiny, including comments from the FBI. His latest episode builds on this work, focusing on alleged fraud and misuse of government funds in California, continuing his broader investigative coverage of public spending and institutional accountability. Shirley’s content often aligns with conservative perspectives while emphasizing transparency and oversight. Shawn Ryan Show Sponsors: Our listeners get the Harry’s Plus Trial Set for only $10 at https://www. Harrys.com/srs #Harryspod Sign up for your $1 per month trial today at https://shopify.com/srs Go to https://meetfabric.com/SHAWN and apply today, risk-free. No description text or call to action is provided in the attachment. Nick Shirley Links: YT - youtube.com/@nickshirley IG - https://www.instagram.com/nickshirley X - https://x.com/nickshirleyy Podcast - https://open.spotify.com/show/4fm9G0i6lyDZ3XE5fz3Lb9 Hoodie - https://shirleydefense.com/collections/all Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 1:05Shawn Ryan?

  Nick Shirley. Didn't expect to see you back so soon.

• 1:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, me neither.

• 1:09Shawn Ryan?

  What are you?

• 1:12Shawn Ryan?

  Turns out there's lots of fraud to uncover in the United States, huh?

• 1:16Speaker 03

  There is so much fraud here in the United States, it's unbelievable.

• 1:19Shawn Ryan?

  Dude. Did you, so, hold on. Did you go right to California from Minnesota?

• 1:25Speaker 03

  So after Minnesota, I was like, okay, the threats are pretty high right now after exposing, like, billions of dollars. Let me focus on something different. But let me still focus on fraud. So I focused on election fraud in California. I was like, that would probably maybe take a little bit of the pressure off me for a little bit as far as like the death threats. And just like going, having a group like the Somalians coming after me. So I was like, okay, let's go after election fraud. And then, a few weeks later, I then did go after the hospice fraud. And that was bad.

• 1:55Shawn Ryan?

  Why'd you pick California election fraud? I'm just curious.

• 1:59Speaker 03

  Because they're the biggest state in the country, and they're one of the states that don't require voter ID. So I really just wanted to show people how easy it is to vote in an election here inside the United States, in a place that does not require voter ID.

• 2:12Shawn Ryan?

  Have you heard of, we're gonna get into that. I'm just curious. I've been hearing a lot of...

• 2:19Shawn Ryan?

  The voter fraud's coming out of Venezuela, like from a national standpoint. Have you heard this shit?

• 2:25Speaker 03

  I really haven't.

• 2:27Shawn Ryan?

  You haven't the the

• 2:28Speaker 03

  I heard like the like the maybe like the Dominion machines are out there.

• 2:31Shawn Ryan?

  Yes.

• 2:32Speaker 03

  I haven't looked into it.

• 2:32Shawn Ryan?

  Smartmatic, is that who owns them? I don't know, this is all allegedly, allegedly, but I've been hearing a lot of sources talking about that it all kinda is orchestrated from Venezuela. But I'm just curious.

• 2:50Speaker 03

  I would like to go to Venezuela.

• 2:51Shawn Ryan?

  It's very, it's very, I don't know if I should say conspiracy-ish, but I can't think of another word right now. It's kinda conspiracy-ish, so I haven't really, I haven't really touched on it yet because I can't, you know, there's a lot of wild shit out there, but I'm hearing it more and more and more.

• 3:09Speaker 03

  If you can hook me up with a group of special op guys to go down to Venezuela, I'll go look into it.

• 3:13Shawn Ryan?

  I know a couple of special op guys, so we'll go to Venezuela with you. So, yeah, actually, I will fucking hook you up. I'll call them up tonight and see if they will be interested in going down with you.

• 3:24Speaker 03

  I'm down. I'll blow a spaniel, I'm ready.

• 3:26Shawn Ryan?

  Do you really?

• 3:27Speaker 03

  Yeah, I speak fluent Spanish.

• 3:29Shawn Ryan?

  No shit. Where'd you learn that?

• 3:31Speaker 03

  In Chile, Santiago.

• 3:34Shawn Ryan?

  Mission trip?

• 3:35Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 3:35Shawn Ryan?

  Nice, nice.

• 3:37Speaker 03

  I'm a dual threat.

• 3:38Shawn Ryan?

  Nice. Let me give you an intro here.

• 3:43Shawn Ryan?

  Nick Shirley, a bold 23-year-old independent journalist who's taken the internet by storm with fearless, on-the-ground investigations. Known for exposing stories and the legacy media won't touch, from immigration debates to government waste. Uncovered alleged massive fraud in Minnesota's taxpayer-funded programs. Testified before Congress about the fraud taking place in Minnesota and all across the United States. Currently uncovering millions in dollars of fraud in California for fake hospice care facilities and daycares.

• 4:21Shawn Ryan?

  And as you know, before we get going, got a couple of things to knock out. One.

• 4:27Speaker 03

  Yes. These are so good.

• 4:29Shawn Ryan?

  Vigilance League gummy bears.

• 4:31Speaker 03

  I ate like the whole pack last time within a few days.

• 4:33Shawn Ryan?

  Nice. And we got a Patreon account, turned it into Quite the Community, and so they get the opportunity to ask every single guest a question. This is from Robert Simmons. "Have you had any luck with any federal investigators taking what you've found and expanding investigations? And do you think at some point there will be any real indictments or convictions of state officials who have allowed it or are covering it up?"

• 5:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think I've had a lot of success. They actually just opened up a new task force, fraud task force, where a bunch of departments of the government are now going to be talking together if they see an issue at Treasury and they see an issue at another department where they weren't communicating, now they're going to communicate. And I think we will start to see prosecutions ramp up.

• 5:19Shawn Ryan?

  Vance just, he's the lead on that, isn't he?

• 5:22Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 5:23Shawn Ryan?

  Is this the same thing?

• 5:24Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 5:24Shawn Ryan?

  So what is the difference between this and Doge?

• 5:27Speaker 03

  Uh, this essentially isn't like a new, I don't think it's a new department, it's a task force. And now like all these departments inside the government, like you have Treasury, you have the people who are over the housing, you have all these departments are now going to be talking together. You have the HHS that's going to be talking with Treasury. If there's a huge amount of money going somewhere and they think it's suspicious, they're going to talk. Because before, they weren't talking.

• 5:54Shawn Ryan?

  Right on.

• 5:54Speaker 03

  And that's why the fraud got so big.

• 5:56Shawn Ryan?

  You think you are the main component of the reason that happened?

• 6:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think so. JD even told me that.

• 6:04Shawn Ryan?

  Did he really?

• 6:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, I met with him and he's like, "You're one of the main reasons why this is happening."

• 6:09Shawn Ryan?

  Wow. How's that feel?

• 6:11Speaker 03

  It's pretty cool.

• 6:12Shawn Ryan?

  Yeah?

• 6:13Speaker 03

  Yeah. I mean, I think it's just cool to know that like your efforts can be seen by government officials and like change can be brought out.

• 6:22Shawn Ryan?

  That's right.

• 6:22Speaker 03

  Which is cool for, for me to see at least.

• 6:25Shawn Ryan?

  Pretty fucking cool what you're doing, man.

• 6:27Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's fun. It's fun and scary at the same time.

• 6:30Shawn Ryan?

  How about, so have the death threats died down?

• 6:33Speaker 03

  A little bit. I mean, after Minnesota, that was very, that was really crazy and especially after the shootings as well that took place in Minnesota. That did not help.

• 6:43Shawn Ryan?

  Yeah.

• 6:44Speaker 03

  That was pretty wild, just because everyone wanted to blame on somebody. And so they were blaming it on me. I'm like, I had nothing to do with that.

• 6:51Shawn Ryan?

  Well, are you talking about the like the ICE shootings?

• 6:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 6:55Shawn Ryan?

  They were blaming that on you?

• 6:57Speaker 03

  Uh, a lot like the leftists were trying to blame it on me. I'm like, uh, no, I'm not the one who decided to get my car and hit an ICE agent or put myself in position to get shot by an ICE agent.

• 7:10Shawn Ryan?

  Holy shit, yeah. I didn't know they were blaming that on you. I don't think that was a good shit.

• 7:14Speaker 03

  Well, not everyone, but like us like group of people are like, you have blood on your hands. I'm like, no, I don't.

• 7:20Shawn Ryan?

  Yeah.

• 7:21Speaker 03

  That was not me.

• 7:21Shawn Ryan?

  Damn dude, damn.

• 7:23Speaker 03

  Cause I mean, the after that, after I exposed all that fraud, the politicians tried to divert the attention from the fraud and with the ICE coming in, they then like,

• 7:36Speaker 03

  they even shut down schools so people could go out and protest. So they then incentivized these people to go out and protest and were rallying them up.

• 7:43Shawn Ryan?

  Hmm.

• 7:43Speaker 03

  Like Ilhan Omar was in the back of a truck bed yelling at the protesters, riling them up.

• 7:49Shawn Ryan?

  No shit?

• 7:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 7:52Shawn Ryan?

  I didn't know that. Wow. Did anything happen in Minnesota?

• 7:57Speaker 03

  Yeah. So I mean, for instance, like the Feeding Our Future one, that was one of the main daycares I went to. They had received over three million dollars. One of the ladies was fleeing the United States to go to the UK on a one-way trip. She got caught at the airport and now she's uh, been found guilty. And uh, there's people who have been arrested for autism, who have pleaded guilty to the autism fraud that took place. And right now I think they're just building up the cases. I mean, it really was only about three months ago.

• 8:24Shawn Ryan?

  Yeah.

• 8:24Speaker 03

  Since all this happened.

• 8:25Shawn Ryan?

  It's actually pretty impressive that that's already starting to happen. I honestly thought everybody would just go unscathed like, oh yeah, we uncovered it. Cool. Let's just keep doing it.

• 8:35Speaker 03

  Yeah, all the fraudsters are on high alert right now too.

• 8:38Shawn Ryan?

  Good. You're doing good work. So let's move into California.

• 8:46Speaker 03

  California fraud is so massive and there's so many different things to look at. When you look at the fraud that's taking place in California, you have Medi-Cal fraud, which is their Medicaid. And for instance, in 2022, they had $108 billion go towards Medi-Cal.

• 9:02Shawn Ryan?

  What is Medi-Cal?

• 9:03Speaker 03

  It's their Medicaid.

• 9:05Shawn Ryan?

  Okay.

• 9:05Speaker 03

  So each state kind of calls their Medicaid systems or programs a bit different. California's is called Medi-Cal. It's the biggest Medicaid in the United States because they have the most amount of people. But so in 2022, they had $108 billion go towards Medi-Cal. Their enrollments at the time was 3.9 million. Okay? And so then here, now we're in 2026, the proposed budget for Medi-Cal is now 222 million and their enrollment's 40 million. So they've only had...

• 9:35Shawn Ryan?

  What?

• 9:36Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 9:37Shawn Ryan?

  Hold on, can you say those numbers again?

• 9:40Speaker 03

  So...

• 9:41Shawn Ryan?

  108 million?

• 9:43Speaker 03

  Billion.

• 9:44Shawn Ryan?

  Billion for 39.8 million people?

• 9:48Speaker 03

  39.9.

• 9:49Shawn Ryan?

  3... Oh shit. So they've over-doubled it?

• 9:54Speaker 03

  For 100,000 people.

• 9:57Shawn Ryan?

  For 100,000 people. Well, what's new? What are they getting?

• 10:01Speaker 03

  That's what we're all wondering. And actually, the population of California hasn't gone up exponentially either.

• 10:06Shawn Ryan?

  Yeah, I checked it. It's plateaued. I thought it was actually a decline, but it's not a decline. It is a plateau since 2020.

• 10:15Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 10:16Shawn Ryan?

  I pulled it up.

• 10:17Speaker 03

  And so when I was doing that, making that video, I looked at this. I said, "What is going on here? How is it going from 39.9 enrollments to now 40 million enrollments, yet there's a over $100 billion?" And then if you look at the surplus, California at one point was operating in a $100 billion surplus before 2020. Now they're operating in a, I believe, around a 20 to $40 billion deficit. So that's an easy place to to point to why they're in such deficit and where all the fraud is.

• 10:55Shawn Ryan?

  So what is going on? How do you? Can you say the dates again? So it was thirty, it was a hundred and eight billion in when?

• 11:04Speaker 03

  Twenty twenty two.

• 11:05Shawn Ryan?

  Twenty twenty two. And today in twenty twenty six, it's doubled.

• 11:10Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 11:11Shawn Ryan?

  Overdoubled.

• 11:11Speaker 03

  The proposed budget's at two hundred and twenty two billion.

• 11:18Shawn Ryan?

  Holy shit, dude.

• 11:21Speaker 03

  And the thing with the fraud is they want to make it so big and so complex that it's hard to actually crack down on. And so when you have that much money going out to these locations, going out to these hospices, going out to these home health cares, it makes it very hard to crack down on. Because how do you, like, the web's so deep at that point. Like, there's so many hands that are involved.

• 11:41Shawn Ryan?

  How are they doing the fraud?

• 11:43Speaker 03

  So hospice and uh, home healthcare, like, the most valuable thing to somebody over the age of sixty five is their Medicare beneficiary number. And that's even more valuable to a fraudster than a credit card. So they get the medical beneficiary numbers of these people and then they start enrolling them into hospice.

• 12:03Speaker 03

  And once someone's enrolled to hospice, a lot of people in California don't even know they're enrolled into hospice until they go to the doctor and they need a surgery or they need an appointment and they say, well, we can't help you. You're enrolled in the hospice.

• 12:15Shawn Ryan?

  So then what happens? So these people. So basically their identity's stolen.

• 12:22Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 12:23Shawn Ryan?

  Somebody puts them in the hospice program. They need a surgery. They can't get a surgery because?

• 12:29Speaker 03

  They'll be, they'll be denied.

• 12:31Shawn Ryan?

  How many people have died because of this?

• 12:34Speaker 03

  I don't have the exact numbers on that, but I imagine a lot of people get to the doctors and they're like, wait, I had no idea it was on hospice. CBS even reported on it.

• 12:42Shawn Ryan?

  I mean, what if, what if it's a medical emergency?

• 12:45Speaker 03

  They're on hospice.

• 12:46Shawn Ryan?

  You're having a fucking heart attack.

• 12:48Speaker 03

  You're in hospice.

• 12:49Shawn Ryan?

  Or an aneurysm or?

• 12:51Speaker 03

  Holy shit. So it's very dangerous, actually. I mean, my grandma, when she was dying, they put her on hospice. And basically, that means they're just gonna give you morphine if you're not feeling good, or they're gonna like, treat you, but they're not gonna stop you from dying. Like, if you're, they're not gonna do some, uh, last-minute procedure to make sure you stay alive. So is hospice, is it, what is it, government aid? What does it cover? So it's underneath Medi-Cal, but it's, uh, it's literally just like, hospice is just like home hel- healthcare to ease your dying. That's what I thought. Yeah, so there's hospice, and then there's home healthcare, where they then actually do stuff to help the person stay alive.

• 13:35Speaker 03

  It sounds like a really easy thing to fix. Just verify who you're sending the money to. Hey, is so-and-so here? No. Okay. Well, well, the problem is, is they then get these like, little offices, and they just do the billing. They don't have the, the, the patient inside of, inside of a hospice, because they're going out to the homes. Because mostly people are on their deathbeds at their home. Okay. And so you, it's very hard. Okay. So if you do have that medical beneficiary number, it's super easy to make it look like you're doing stuff. Because it's just a piece of paper that you're signing off and sending to the state, and then they send you the money from Medi-Cal. Okay. Or from Medicare.

• 14:20Speaker 03

  I thought hospice was actual centers. No. That's why they're able to get away with it. Shit. And that's how they get the medical beneficiary numbers. Then they can just bill people without them even knowing. How'd you figure this, how did you, how did you figure all this out? Well, after my Minnesota video, it like surged the country to go look for fraud. And- I was kinda nervous to tackle California because I was worried like, okay, if I post a video Gavin Newsom's probably gonna try to sue me. Cause Dr. Oz went and did it. He's the head of CMS. So he went and showed that here in California, there's a thousand percent increase. And these hospices, Armenian and Russian mafias are running, running these hospices.

• 15:01Speaker 03

  And so I knew there was something there, cause literally the head of the CMS is going there and talking about that. And so then I started looking into all the data. After my video, the HHS actually released the databases of HHS to then, uh, you could go then scan through it. So I started going through that data. And I located these hospices. I said, okay, I'm gonna go see what's happening at these. And it turns out that they are just, they're just a bunch of plazas in this place called Van Nuys in California, in LA, that just have literally

• 15:35Speaker 03

  10 to 89 hospices in one building.

• 15:41Shawn Ryan?

  Dude, this, this is just like the Minnesota shit.

• 15:44Speaker 03

  Yeah, it might even be worse.

• 15:47Speaker 03

  Cause uh, one in third of the hospices in America are in LA County.

• 15:53Shawn Ryan?

  One third of the hospices in America are in LA County?

• 15:57Speaker 03

  I believe so, yeah. Like one, and then like one in every $10 for home healthcare goes to LA County. It gets really bad.

• 16:05Shawn Ryan?

  Whoa dude, holy shit. 89 in one building?

• 16:12Speaker 03

  89 in one building.

• 16:13Shawn Ryan?

  What does that look like?

• 16:15Speaker 03

  They're literally these plazas or just these buildings that you maybe drive by, you don't think anything of because you've never seen anything ever happen to them. Well, there's a little hospice in a room that's like eight by eight.

• 16:28Speaker 03

  And you knock on the door and nobody's there. You can even open the door, there's nothing in it. And then if someone is in it, it's literally like one desk and uh, it's one of these uh, usually Armenians, especially in California.

• 16:46Speaker 03

  And then you drive out and you walk outside the parking lot and you got like M8 competitions. You got uh, G wagons, you got Cybertrucks. You even have uh, $200,000 Maybacks. Like these fraudsters are living in complete luxury.

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• 20:33Shawn Ryan?

  This is Russian mob that's running this.

• 20:36Speaker 03

  Yes, Russian and Armenian. So I stroke the Armenians, apparently. The Russians actually got ahold of somebody who knew my mom and said, they called, and then that person then called my mom and said, "The Russian mafia wants me to tell you to make sure Nick doesn't come poking around our fraud."

• 20:57Speaker 03

  Like, that's not a joke. We were driving in L.A. I was working on a separate video. Somebody called my mom. And she apparently had, knew some people in that. And she had my mom's phone number. She called my mom and said, "The Russian mafia wants to make sure to let you know to have Nick not come snooping around our businesses."

• 21:14Shawn Ryan?

  How's that make you feel?

• 21:17Speaker 03

  I was like, "Well, I'm probably not gonna go check out the Russians." But it is scary. Because like, the Somalians, they were threatening me publicly. Like, they had their people talking in these chats. They were out doing this press conference. It was like they're trying to sell a book. Like, they're like Gav Newsom. They're trying to sell his own book. These people are doing press conferences and whatnot. The Armenians and the Russians, they're a lot smarter than that. They're not gonna be doing these press conferences about trying to protect their fraud. And so, they're gonna work in a lot quieter way. So, that was a very scary one. My mom did get that phone call.

• 21:53Shawn Ryan?

  How's your mom take that?

• 21:57Speaker 03

  Like, now, we're not like, used to it. But it's like, "Hey, Nick, we need to be cautious." Which isn't fun.

• 22:06Shawn Ryan?

  Shit, man.

• 22:07Speaker 03

  That one was a little, that was a little crazy, not gonna lie.

• 22:10Shawn Ryan?

  Yeah, that's serious.

• 22:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, that was serious.

• 22:11Shawn Ryan?

  I mean, that's serious.

• 22:14Speaker 03

  Because, I mean, these people, like, we talk about like, the mafia or gangs. Like, it's real. Like, there's certain parts in America where mafias or gangs do have control. But you don't see it as blatantly because they're not rolling around like armed gangs in a favela. It's more so like, these are the people who take command and everyone knows it. And it's just kind of how it's been. And they can kind of blend in.

• 22:41Shawn Ryan?

  Man. Well, it's out now.

• 22:44Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's out now. So, hopefully, nothing happens.

• 22:49Shawn Ryan?

  Sheesh. Have you talked about this anywhere else?

• 22:52Speaker 03

  No, you're the first one, actually.

• 22:53Shawn Ryan?

  Oh, great. This is great. No shit.

• 22:58Speaker 03

  Yeah, that was, that was intense, honestly. I was, I really like, that night, I was just sitting in my bed, just thinking,

• 23:07Speaker 03

  yeah, the Russian mafia knows, like, we're on to them, or that people are on to their scams and their fraud. And they're literally making phone calls to make sure I don't come snoop around the fraud that they've been able to get away with for so long.

• 23:23Shawn Ryan?

  Damn. But you've been talking about this.

• 23:27Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 23:27Shawn Ryan?

  Pretty openly. I mean, it popped up on my radar.

• 23:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, cuz I mean, I, I'm doing a public service to the country to try and expose fraud wherever it may be. And I don't care if you're Russian, Armenian, Somali, American. Like, if you're committing fraud, you're stealing from hardworking legal taxpayers. So,

• 23:52Speaker 03

  either stop committing fraud, or you're gonna get exposed.

• 23:55Shawn Ryan?

  So,

• 23:57Shawn Ryan?

  what is that? What, how long ago did you expose this?

• 24:00Speaker 03

  The Minnesota or?

• 24:01Shawn Ryan?

  No, no, no, the California stuff.

• 24:04Speaker 03

  I filmed that back in February.

• 24:06Shawn Ryan?

  February?

• 24:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 24:07Shawn Ryan?

  What has the response been from everybody else other than the mobs?

• 24:13Speaker 03

  Gavin Newsom, he posted a photo of me snooping around, an AI-generated image of me snooping around daycares, uh, trying to depict me as like a pervert, putting like ten cameras on me.

• 24:23Shawn Ryan?

  I saw that.

• 24:24Speaker 03

  Where are the children? Um, the overall response, though, has been a lot more positive compared to Minnesota, cuz people are realizing, oh, this is like a systemic problem here in the United States. This isn't a right or left issue. Like, each one of these tax dollars is our tax dollars. So the response has been, I'd say, even better, because people are now seeing like, okay, this is like a big issue.

• 24:47Shawn Ryan?

  Yeah, I mean, I remember, um, last time, I think it was last time you were here, there was an estimated six hundred billion dollars in fraud in the US alone.

• 24:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, uh, three to seven percent of each tax dollar goes towards fraud here in the United States.

• 25:03Shawn Ryan?

  How much?

• 25:04Speaker 03

  Three to seven percent. So that means that each American is working twenty-five days out of the year to pay a fraudster.

• 25:13Shawn Ryan?

  Wow.

• 25:16Shawn Ryan?

  Has there been any response from the California government on this? Other than you running around with a bunch of cameras?

• 25:24Speaker 03

  They're trying to act like Gavin Newsom did this and that to stop hospices. I think like back in 2021, but the problem is you can go and sign something, but if you don't actually stop the bleeding, that means nothing.

• 25:37Shawn Ryan?

  Uh huh.

• 25:38Speaker 03

  Cause there is over a thousand percent increase. There's 1,500 hospices in LA County alone. And yeah, good job, you maybe cracked down on 50, 70 of them, but you have a lot more to crack down on and you didn't stop the bleeding. It's similar to Minnesota where they had a 10,000% increase in funding for autism, yet there wasn't a 10,000% of children with autism. So like these governors like to act like they're doing stuff, but they actually never stopped the bleeding. And that's where all the fraud is taking place. Like stop the bleeding and then maybe you can say I did something. But until then, like you're just as complicit as these fraudsters because you know what's happening, but you don't stop the bleeding.

• 26:21Shawn Ryan?

  How many buildings did you go to that were doing this? Eighty-nine in one building? I mean, eighty-nine?

• 26:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, so CVS reported on the eighty-nine one. I just went to about an area, probably about two square miles and within there, there's the one motel-like building that had like 15 of them in there. There's another one that had about eight inside of it. There was another one that had, it started off as an adult daycare that then transformed themselves into a hospice and a home healthcare. So they just got in on all the goods. And altogether, probably around 10.

• 27:03Shawn Ryan?

  10 different buildings?

• 27:04Speaker 03

  10 different buildings.

• 27:06Shawn Ryan?

  What are these people saying to you when you bang on the door, when you approach them? Do they speak English?

• 27:11Speaker 03

  Uh, some of them do, a lot of them aren't there. And I say, one guy was there and he said, I'm like, he's like, I've been in this business since 1990 something. I'm like, okay, then what's the justification for a thousand percent increase since you've been in it for so long? And he can't even re-answer the question. In fact, he blames Dr. Oz.

• 27:33Shawn Ryan?

  He blames Dr. Oz?

• 27:35Speaker 03

  Yes, he blamed Dr. Oz saying that he was making all these allegations and he even blamed Dr. Oz for being fat.

• 27:44Speaker 03

  Like, that was pretty funny. In the video, the guy's like, "I bought Dr. Oz pills and I'm still fat." I'm like, "Oh, so you're fat because of Dr. Oz?" He's like, "Yes, because of Dr. Oz."

• 27:56Shawn Ryan?

  Wow. Wow.

• 27:59Speaker 03

  And I'm pulling the information straight from these data sets. And so they can't back it up. I'm like, "Okay." And he's like, "Well, my business is right here." I'm like, "Okay, great, then your business is right here." You don't even, you're not even registered with CMS. Like, how come you aren't registered with CMS? And then he blames Dr. Oz. And I'm like, "Well, Dr. Oz has actually been in that position for maybe a year." Yet they've been getting away with this for years.

• 28:24Shawn Ryan?

  What do you think's gonna happen with this?

• 28:27Speaker 03

  Well, I'm super interested to see what happens with this fraud task force. And I do think if there's not prosecutions or if people aren't arrested, then like, I think Americans are just gonna lose hope. Like, lose any faith that they have left in the government. Because it is literally out there for, in the open, this fraud.

• 28:45Shawn Ryan?

  I mean, you just said, every 25, Americans spend 25 days a year paying for fraud.

• 28:56Shawn Ryan?

  25, a month of your hard work

• 29:03Shawn Ryan?

  that you are sending to the government is paying for fraud.

• 29:06Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 29:08Speaker 03

  It's crazy. And so, in some of these programs too, they're like, "Oh, well, it's not that much money." Yeah. Well, your program, your department allows $7 billion, and 1.7% of that goes towards fraud. That's $100 million. That's how much daycare fraud there is in California. That's a very low estimate, by the way.

• 29:31Speaker 03

  I'm like, "Okay, well, that's a lot of money, $100 million."

• 29:36Shawn Ryan?

  Where are we going next? We going daycare fraud, voter fraud? What are we doing?

• 29:40Speaker 03

  Voter fraud's very big. And I think that's something that's just like so obvious too. It's like, "Okay, how come in these Democrat states, they don't want anyone to show their ID? Like, in California, they do not want you to show your ID." And-

• 29:55Shawn Ryan?

  They don't want you to show your ID?

• 29:57Speaker 03

  They don't want you to show your ID. You don't need to. All you have to do is sign the paper. Like, a lot of people have told me, "Well, I've tried to show my ID at the place." And they look at it like it's like some sort of cancer. Like, they're like, "Don't look at it." Like, "We don't need to see it."

• 30:10Shawn Ryan?

  Are you serious?

• 30:11Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 30:13Speaker 03

  So I wanted to see how easy it would be for, let's just say, an illegal migrant to vote in California. So this man, he had all the voter, he had all the, he had all the, what are they called?

• 30:27Speaker 03

  What are they called, sorry?

• 30:31Speaker 03

  He had all the voter rolls. So in California, I wanted to see how bad the fraud was. So I reached out to this man who's been doing his own investigation on this for years. So he had all the voter rolls. And to receive the voter rolls, it's public. You can get the voter rolls, but you have to get access from, I believe, from the Secretary of State of California. So he had received all the voter rolls and he'd been going through it for years. And there's so many stuff, so many red flags inside these voter rolls. For instance, you have people who are said to be 126 years, 126 years old voting. Then you go to the house and the person's 80 years old. But they voted in 55 elections.

• 31:11Speaker 03

  And they don't require ID. You also have people who are registered to UPS boxes. And you can be registered to UPS box,

• 31:21Speaker 03

  but you cannot have that as your domicile address, which is on the voter rolls. So a lot of people had their addresses to these UPS stores into these P O boxes. And you can't actually do that. And so there's all these problems that could be solved if you were just to show your voter ID when you go and vote. Now, when you do go and vote in California, their way of flagging it is if the signature is not aligned. So there's 39 million people or so in California. Let's say 10 million people go and vote. They are literally saying that we are going to scan each and every single signature. And if the signature is not right, that vote will then be investigated.

• 32:07Speaker 03

  Right. And it's the slant of the signature. Right. So who's to say that

• 32:14Speaker 03

  somebody is not going to go and vote on behalf of Mandy, who's 126 years old, who doesn't even know she's 126 years old, and go up and show, say she's Mandy and go and vote?

• 32:28Speaker 03

  So there's so much voter fraud. It's insane.

• 32:32Shawn Ryan?

  This is enraging.

• 32:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's very enraging.

• 32:34Shawn Ryan?

  I mean, it all is. It all is. So you, all you have to do is write a signature?

• 32:42Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 32:42Shawn Ryan?

  No, nothing, nothing else?

• 32:43Speaker 03

  You just have to say you're that person and then sign the signature. In fact, it was so easy to register to vote in California. A lady who was actually a Republican registered her dog to vote.

• 32:58Speaker 03

  And the dog voted in two elections. The first election, it voted successfully. The second election, the dog got caught because the person reported herself.

• 33:10Shawn Ryan?

  You mean the signature's lined up?

• 33:12Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 33:13Shawn Ryan?

  The dog's signature's lined up, huh?

• 33:15Speaker 03

  No, the dog, the dog registered to vote. Like, the dog had its own name, everything. It registered to vote. Like, that's how easy it is to register to vote in California.

• 33:25Speaker 03

  And it's funny, because then I then go post that video, and I'm like, okay, this is like, super simple. A dog registered to vote. You then have Democrats out defending the dog. They're like, "You idiot, that was a Republican." I'm like, "You realize this isn't a Republican or Democrat issue. A dog was able to vote. And the only reason it got caught was because the owner reported herself." And they're like, "Well, it didn't count." I'm like, "No, it counted. It voted in that first election, and that vote counted."

• 33:56Speaker 03

  Like, it's very enraging, because I'm going about showing people these issues that have become controversial, that aren't controversial, and then you have people defending it.

• 34:07Shawn Ryan?

  What are they saying? I mean, what are they, what, what are they saying?

• 34:11Speaker 03

  They're like, they literally said, "You idiot, that was a Republican who did that, and it got caught." I'm like, "No, that dog still voted." Like, you don't have a problem with the fact that a person without, not a person, a dog without a human body was registered to vote in a US election. Like, we are a first-world country. We're the best country in the world. Most advanced country, yet a dog is able to vote in our elections.

• 34:37Shawn Ryan?

  Do you have any idea how much voter fraud is going on there? How many fraud fraudulent votes? How long this has been going on?

• 34:47Speaker 03

  A lot. I mean, if you look at the election, the only state that Trump didn't win were states that didn't need voter ID. And those states are more Democrat. And I don't doubt that he didn't win those states. But it's crazy that the only states that didn't require a voter ID are the states that Trump lost.

• 35:07Shawn Ryan?

  What other states don't require voter ID?

• 35:09Speaker 03

  Minnesota. In fact, in Minnesota, you can vouch on behalf of other people to vote.

• 35:16Shawn Ryan?

  Excuse me?

• 35:17Speaker 03

  Yes. So on the day of voting in Minnesota, say you work at a building or people inside your apartment, I believe.

• 35:27Speaker 03

  You can vouch on behalf of others to vote. So like, say that person can get to the voting, the voting, uh, place to vote, the voting, voting post. You can vouch on behalf of other people. So you could take it, take that paper and then help those sign it and then bring it. And you're vouching on behalf of those individuals.

• 35:46Shawn Ryan?

  So you're voting for multiple people?

• 35:49Speaker 03

  Yes. Well, theoretically, other people said that's what they wanted and they signed it or whatever. I'm not from Minnesota, so I don't understand exactly how someone goes and vouches for somebody else. But you can literally vouch on behalf of other people.

• 36:03Shawn Ryan?

  So you just take the piece of paper, go around the corner, sign it with a different signature, bring it in, be like, oh yeah, my buddy wants me to vote for him today?

• 36:10Speaker 03

  Theoretically, that could happen.

• 36:13Speaker 03

  And there's no voter ID either.

• 36:14Shawn Ryan?

  Where else?

• 36:15Speaker 03

  Um, I wanna say I know, I know New York as well. I don't think they have voter ID. Like Zohar Mandani, he wanted people to show two forms of ID to shovel snow. But you don't actually need an ID to vote.

• 36:29Speaker 03

  So like, they're taking all these issues that are, are not controversial, making them controversial.

• 36:37Speaker 03

  So it's very bad.

• 36:39Shawn Ryan?

  Yeah, it sounds like it.

• 36:41Speaker 03

  Because essentially, Sean, if your vote doesn't matter, what does matter? Like, if people can't trust that their vote actually matters, like, what does matter? Like, we live in a democracy, but how do we know that it's a democracy if our vote doesn't matter?

• 36:59Shawn Ryan?

  You don't have to write your birthday or anything down?

• 37:02Speaker 03

  You have to say you're that person, and then you sign. You might have to say what your birthday is, but it's on the voter rolls. Like, I don't, I don't vote in California, but that's how you go, you literally show up to the place, say you're that person, and then they give you the ballot and you vote.

• 37:20Shawn Ryan?

  You'll be a hundred and twenty-five years old, so if somebody writes their birthday down, it was like nineteen hundred.

• 37:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 37:27Shawn Ryan?

  That doesn't raise any flags.

• 37:29Speaker 03

  And there's like hundreds of them, like thousands of them. And I go to the doors, I knock on the door, because I have the address from these voter rolls, and they're like, "No, uh, I'm, she's eighty-one." Like, it's, it is so stupid, and it could be solved if someone were to show their own ID.

• 37:51Shawn Ryan?

  What's this month-long election process?

• 37:53Speaker 03

  Yes, and it takes, they can verify an election for up to a month, in California as well. So, they have these month-long voting. Like, you can vote for a month long, essentially, like, they can count the votes for a month. Like, how can we not, how can we live in a country where it, they take a literal month to vote? And that just gives time for fraud to take place. And then you say something like that, and they get so mad at you. Like, you make a very solid case to show how easy it is for an illegal to vote, for instance, and they get so mad at you.

• 38:36Shawn Ryan?

  Wow, dude.

• 38:39Speaker 03

  We have some serious problems taking place in the country right now.

• 38:43Shawn Ryan?

  Has there been any chatter about how they're gonna fix this?

• 38:46Speaker 03

  Well, they're trying to pass the SAVE Act, which would require voter ID in federal elections. In California, they actually just, uh, they got enough signatures to be able to put that on. I think it's a proposition to require voter ID inside the state of California. And we'll see if it gets passed.

• 39:05Shawn Ryan?

  I mean, they still have to enforce it.

• 39:07Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 39:07Shawn Ryan?

  It's just like what you were saying earlier about what Gavin Newsom said. I mean, it's great he tried to fix it, but you still have to enforce it.

• 39:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, you still need to enforce it, and you actually need to serve the people of your state, whether they're Republican or Democrat. If this many people want it, it's not like an eighty-twenty issue. I would say that's a ninety-ten issue. I think everyone can come to their senses and say, "We should show our ID when we go and vote."

• 39:34Shawn Ryan?

  Well, what I mean, did you get any, did you get the pulse of the citizens there? Did you talk to anybody? Do they want that?

• 39:42Speaker 03

  If you ask anybody and you have a conversation with them, they will come to their senses and say, "That makes sense." And, uh, the majority of people I talk to think it needs to happen. I did speak to one individual, and he's like, "No, I don't need, I don't, why would I need that?" I'm like, "Well, you need it when you go to the airport." He's like, "Even at that, I don't wanna do it." I said, "Well, like, that's the thing, that's the logic of that person who doesn't want it." It's like, it's just too much effort.

• 40:08Shawn Ryan?

  How were you received there? Does everybody hate you in California?

• 40:11Speaker 03

  No, people love me in California.

• 40:13Shawn Ryan?

  Really?

• 40:15Speaker 03

  Like, literally, everywhere I go, more people love me than don't like me, 'cause they're seeing through, they're seeing these scams and these frauds take place. It's just that small group that get upset, it's the fraudsters.

• 40:31Speaker 03

  They also have to be the most outspoken, the most violent, and the most vicious.

• 40:38Shawn Ryan?

  What's going on on Skid Row?

• 40:41Speaker 03

  Skid Row, they will get homeless people to sign these petitions, saying that there's somebody to get enough, uh, enough names to then pass like propositions, or to be able to pass bills, or to be able to like,

• 40:59Speaker 03

  they'll use homeless people to get votes,

• 41:03Speaker 03

  to be able to go through with whatever political campaign is taking place. That's been happening for a long time, so like Ken Higbee, James O'Keefe, they did a very good expose on that, showing like how easy it is, and people are paying, people like five bucks, here's five bucks for a signature. I've seen that take place on Skid Row as well.

• 41:20Shawn Ryan?

  We do, I got something here of children living in tents in Skid Row. What is that all about?

• 41:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, so then, Skid Row, um, I got, I saved a kid and his mom, who were homeless, they had been homeless for about 10 days or so, on Skid Row, and I put him in a hotel, put it on my social media saying, "This is happening", and within a few days, we got the kid out of the streets and into, um, a shelter where he's now enrolled into school. Meanwhile, there's NGOs that receive millions of dollars inside of Skid Row, and they left the kid and his mom all alone, sleeping in a tent, next to drug addicts, next to gang members.

• 42:04Shawn Ryan?

  This is like a legit single mother trying to care for her kids, living in a fucking tent?

• 42:09Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 42:09Shawn Ryan?

  Skid Row?

• 42:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, cuz I mean, a lot of homeless people, it, it maybe it happens to them for a week, or it happens to them for two weeks, they're trying to, they get kicked out of a house, and they need to get, they need to get back, put back on their feet. And so then they become homeless, but they have these kids, and these kids should be like the number one priority for a state. And so I, I was filming this whole separate video, and I see this kid in this tent. I said, "Well, like who am I to go out and do this journalism? Or who am I to go show people what's happening and actually not be a part of the solution?" So, I see this kid on like cable, "This is not happening, like we're not gonna let you sleep here in this tent, we're gonna get you in a hotel, I'm gonna make sure we get the hotel, and we're gonna send your mom to, we're gonna send your mom $500,

• 42:54Speaker 03

  and by that time, we're gonna find somebody to take care of you."

• 42:59Speaker 03

  And your mom. So, within literally three days, we were able to get a kid off the street of Skid Row, into a hotel, and then into a housing system that then gets him enrolled into school. It had nothing to do with the government.

• 43:13Shawn Ryan?

  Good man. Good man. How bad is it? I mean, you've been to California a couple of times before, right?

• 43:21Speaker 03

  It's really bad.

• 43:22Shawn Ryan?

  Is there any, has there been any improvements?

• 43:24Speaker 03

  No. In fact, it honestly just gets worse.

• 43:27Shawn Ryan?

  Describe to me how bad it is.

• 43:31Speaker 03

  Like homeless-wise, it's everywhere.

• 43:34Shawn Ryan?

  What do you mean everywhere?

• 43:35Speaker 03

  Like, you'll be in Beverly Hills, one block away, you'll have a person passed out with fentanyl. Or you'll have a person living in a tent. And the quality of life there for, people have just come to their senses like, oh, we're just gonna live with it. But you don't actually have to live like that. Like, this wasn't happening twenty, thirty years ago. From everyone I talked to in California, they're like, this is not what California was. That's why people are so upset about it. Because now you have these people hooked on fentanyl, they're doing drugs, and then you have a state that continues to give billions and billions of money, but it just gets worse and worse.

• 44:15Speaker 03

  And so, this, this homeless industrial complex that they've created inside of California, they've figured out that if they receive more money, well, if we receive more money, why would we stop the solution? Because then we stop receiving more money. And so, each person, each NGO is actually incentivized to keep the homeless going. Because it makes them more money. They're able to buy more properties with that money. They're able to build up their assets. And they're able to get rich. While homeless continues to run rampant.

• 44:51Shawn Ryan?

  Wait, so people are opening shelters? Is this?

• 44:54Speaker 03

  Yes. So, I have another video coming out that I haven't posted yet. And in that video, we kind of investigate the homeless industrial complex. And we see where all this money's going. Because, for instance, twenty-four billion dollars went unaccounted for just a few years ago. Nobody knows where that money went. Well, money goes somewhere, so you can, you can track it. And these, a lot of these NGOs, they go up and buy these hotels, or they buy these apartment complexes. And a lot of times, they're actually not even housing homeless people. They're housing low-income individuals, and then putting them on, that are then on Section Eight. And so then the NGOs then continue to receive money from the government, who pay the section eight.

• 45:36Speaker 03

  So the person renting the apartment might only have to pay thirty dollars. Meanwhile, the government's giving them eighteen hundred dollars for that apartment. And so these NGOs, then they just continue to buy up these apartment complexes or these hotels. And they just accumulate more and more and more assets.

• 45:52Shawn Ryan?

  So this is a big business.

• 45:54Speaker 03

  Big business.

• 45:56Shawn Ryan?

  Is this happening everywhere?

• 45:58Speaker 03

  California is like the worst of it. I think it does happen in other states, like for instance, in New York City. Their average spend for a homeless person is eighty one thousand dollars. That's more than the median household income inside of New York City.

• 46:17Speaker 03

  So to take care of one homeless person, it's eighty one thousand dollars in New York City.

• 46:22Shawn Ryan?

  Eighty one thousand dollars.

• 46:24Speaker 03

  That's how much money.

• 46:24Shawn Ryan?

  What does that go to?

• 46:26Speaker 03

  To the housing.

• 46:29Speaker 03

  Like literally, who knows? Like, one of the key aspects is the housing. But eighty one thousand dollars.

• 46:35Shawn Ryan?

  And that's more than the median income?

• 46:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's just equal.

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• 49:48Speaker 03

  And it wasn't like that five, 10 years ago.

• 49:51Shawn Ryan?

  There's like nothing in this country that makes a damn bit of sense anymore.

• 49:55Speaker 03

  No. It's actually, it just pisses me off. And I think that's why you're starting to see so many people look at these issues and be like, "Okay, let's just figure this out because this is costing everyone so much money. Our quality of life's actually not getting better. And we're just seeing a lot of these politicians, these NGOs enrich themselves. Meanwhile, we're still doing our day to day, working hard, paying taxes and all this corruption."

• 50:20Shawn Ryan?

  Our country looks like shit.

• 50:24Shawn Ryan?

  You're describing it right now. Tents, fentanyl needles, bums everywhere, fucking trash all over the place. Our road system sucks. Our power grid fucking sucks. I mean, it's, it's, then you go to some other countries, it doesn't fucking look like that.

• 50:40Speaker 03

  No.

• 50:40Shawn Ryan?

  Not everywhere, but you know, we keep, we keep, we keep getting fed this fucking nonsense. "Oh, we're the best country in the world." I don't, are we? Are we?

• 50:50Speaker 03

  We, we should be.

• 50:52Shawn Ryan?

  You're damn right, we should be.

• 50:54Speaker 03

  That's what makes me mad.

• 50:55Shawn Ryan?

  Looks like shit here.

• 50:56Speaker 03

  Yeah, it really does. And a lot, in every big city in America, you can go somewhere and you'll see people passed on fentanyl. For instance, I literally walked over a dead body in San Francisco. And then a little kid then walked over that dead body.

• 51:08Shawn Ryan?

  Oh, man.

• 51:11Speaker 03

  And so it's like this suicidal empathy that's killing our country. And then when you do try to bring out the solution, you're attacked.

• 51:20Speaker 03

  Like people come after you for trying to create.

• 51:21Shawn Ryan?

  It's interesting. I mean, who's, that's, that's what I, I mean, that's why I was asking. When you go to California or any of these other places, you know, how, how are you treated? You're, you're telling me that everybody loves you there. They want you there. They want you to uncover this shit.

• 51:40Shawn Ryan?

  Where are the attacks coming from? Because I see it. I see it on your social. They're just hammering you. I saw the meme from nuisance team.

• 51:49Speaker 03

  So that's the problem is you, even if it's 1%, that's a few million people like in the country. So if it's 1%, that's 3 million people, which is a ton of people. And they're going to be a lot louder than the other 300 million. So I'll give you like a good example. I'm at this gas station, California. Some guy comes up and he yells like, F you Nick Shirley. At the same time, some other man comes up to me. He grabs my hand and he says, you have no idea how many people are praying for you. And so, and he says it's super silent, like very quietly, very humble. Meanwhile, you have this other person yelling, F you Nick Shirley.

• 52:34Speaker 03

  So you have that 1% that is literally crazy, like literally insane. And then you have a vast majority who see what you're doing and are supporting you. But that 1% is a lot of people. If you're in a crowd of,

• 52:53Speaker 03

  if you're in a big crowd, 1% can make a big difference.

• 52:59Shawn Ryan?

  What is this new video you said you're working on?

• 53:02Speaker 03

  Uh, yeah, it's going to be about the homeless industrial complex in California.

• 53:06Shawn Ryan?

  What else you got? When's this releasing?

• 53:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's going to come out in the coming weeks.

• 53:10Shawn Ryan?

  Okay.

• 53:11Speaker 03

  I've been traveling a lot, so I need to sit down, be able to edit it all. I'm working on that. I have some other fraud cases I'm looking into.

• 53:18Shawn Ryan?

  You want to talk about it? This isn't going to come out for a couple of weeks.

• 53:21Speaker 03

  Yeah, we can, we can talk about it.

• 53:23Shawn Ryan?

  Let's do it.

• 53:24Speaker 03

  Essentially, these NGOs are literally just becoming like these mega enterprises that are receiving millions and millions of dollars. And I mean, some NGOs, their assets are upwards of half a billion dollars.

• 53:37Shawn Ryan?

  Half a billion dollars?

• 53:39Speaker 03

  Yes, they've been able to accumulate that much money and assets. And they'll buy like a hotel, for instance, and then they'll value that hotel room for $200,000. And it's really like a 10 by 10 room with a shower in the back.

• 53:56Speaker 03

  And these aren't just in bad areas, like one of the parts I'll show my videos, a hotel in Encino, California. That's one of the wealthiest zip codes in the Los Angeles area.

• 54:07Speaker 03

  Just next to it are $10 million mansions, and they're gonna be bringing in troubled youth and homeless individuals into this hotel next to these $10 million mansions.

• 54:22Shawn Ryan?

  I bet they love that.

• 54:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, and then people are still gonna vote for a Democrat. Like, people are still gonna vote for the people that continue to let this happen. Like, I think Karen Bass is still gonna win. Hopefully she doesn't, but I think she might win for mayor again in LA.

• 54:45Shawn Ryan?

  Oh, boy. Oh, man. How about the theft? You remember, what, right before, what, I guess for the past about four years, we've just been seeing just mobs of people, Ramsack, Target, jewelry stores, the Apple Store, anything in sight? Is that stuff still going on? Have you seen that stuff going on still?

• 55:08Speaker 03

  I think that slowed down. I think they changed whatever was allowing people to steal upwards of $900 and walk away.

• 55:15Shawn Ryan?

  They did change that. What, did they start enforcing the law?

• 55:19Speaker 03

  I think they started to enforce the law. Um, I'm not 100% sure on that, but I knew, I know at one point you were able to steal, I believe, upwards of $900.

• 55:28Shawn Ryan?

  Do you think that was over embellished?

• 55:31Speaker 03

  What do you mean by that?

• 55:31Shawn Ryan?

  Do you think the, do you think that the media was over embellishing?

• 55:38Speaker 03

  No.

• 55:38Shawn Ryan?

  How common that was?

• 55:40Speaker 03

  No.

• 55:41Shawn Ryan?

  I have no idea. I don't, I just, I don't go there.

• 55:43Speaker 03

  No, I remember.

• 55:44Shawn Ryan?

  I don't go to California. I see what I see, I'm like, I don't need to go there.

• 55:48Speaker 03

  No, they weren't, actually. In CVS, you have to literally wait for somebody to come and unlock the door so you can buy deodorant.

• 55:58Speaker 03

  People were stealing everything. In fact, if you just wait a lo, wait around long enough at a CVS in California, you'll catch someone, uh, shoplifting.

• 56:08Speaker 03

  And a lot of the stores are just, like, leaving.

• 56:13Speaker 03

  They did a lot of damage to the country underneath Biden. Like underneath those, underneath, from like 2020 to 2024, a lot of damage took place.

• 56:23Shawn Ryan?

  Mm hmm.

• 56:24Speaker 03

  Like, damage that is hard to fix.

• 56:27Shawn Ryan?

  What do you think motivated them to start enforcing the law?

• 56:31Speaker 03

  People leaving the state.

• 56:34Speaker 03

  A lot of high wealth individuals decided to leave, people complain.

• 56:40Shawn Ryan?

  They, they all left for taxes.

• 56:42Speaker 03

  Yeah, but I mean, just like the average person who's living inside that city, they don't want to have to live with that. Like, a mom shouldn't have to worry about her son walking over a dead body like I saw in San Francisco.

• 56:54Shawn Ryan?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 56:57Speaker 03

  It's like this suicidal empathy that's killing the country.

• 57:02Speaker 03

  And like this straight up delusion, like this brainwashing, like people can't think critical these days, I feel like.

• 57:08Shawn Ryan?

  Well, that's no shit. What else you got coming up?

• 57:14Speaker 03

  You know?

• 57:16Shawn Ryan?

  What's piquing your interest?

• 57:18Speaker 03

  Like, the fraud's really bad. I do want to get back to doing some like international videos. Um, like I did a lot of like work in like El Salvador, where I went and showed what was happening. Like, that was super fun to go. And I was like the first one ever to report on the prisons there, or to go to the favelas in Brazil. It's just now harder for me to like move around in the United States, like go film a video.

• 57:39Shawn Ryan?

  Yeah, I'll bet it is.

• 57:40Speaker 03

  The fraudsters, they're on high alert, protesters are on high alert too. Cause a lot of the protesting here in the United States isn't organic either, and they're that crazy 1%.

• 57:53Speaker 03

  Cause I was popular before all this stuff, like I still had like millions of followers. And now it's gone up exponentially. And fraudsters always complain the loudest, and they don't want, they don't want to be exposed.

• 58:07Shawn Ryan?

  You're gonna have to come up with some good disguises.

• 58:10Speaker 03

  I know, that's what people keep telling me to do, but also it's, I actually like just going like as I am. Like, okay, answer the question. If you have nothing to hide, just answer the question. If you do. You're gonna run, or you're gonna scream and shout, and you're gonna expose yourself.

• 58:26Shawn Ryan?

  Are you getting a report back to the administration now, or are you, do you have a direct line in?

• 58:32Speaker 03

  No, like, me, I think that's why I've been so effective, because I'm not working for the federal government. I'm just a one man going out and doing it. And if they want to see the video on X or on YouTube, and then go investigate, go ahead. Um, I do, I wouldn't mind if they like sent me, opened up some of the databases. Like, I think they should open up all the databases to the public. And that's why they're actually having such a big problem with like fraud. And like New York, for instance, like the home healthcare is like the number one business inside of New York right now. Is home healthcare. People will sign up to watch their grandmas and make money from the government. But New York doesn't want to give over that information.

• 59:14Speaker 03

  Which is a, which is a problem.

• 59:16Shawn Ryan?

  Have you been in contact with Newsom?

• 59:20Speaker 03

  Not really, no.

• 59:21Shawn Ryan?

  No? He did have some, uh, key points. California acted first. He signed the Senate bill six, six, four, and two thousand and one to ban all new hospice licenses. Years before the Trump administration started talking about the issue and extended

• 59:40Shawn Ryan?

  the

• 59:42Shawn Ryan?

  moratorium through January of twenty twenty seven. California is a top fraud recovery state. California ranked fourth in the US in twenty twenty four in dollars received per medical enrollee across civil and criminal investigations, leading all other large states, including Texas, Florida, and New York.

• 1:00:05Shawn Ryan?

  Trump dismantled federal oversight. Have you heard all this stuff?

• 1:00:09Speaker 03

  I've heard about him with the moratorium, and I think that, but like I said, the damage had already been done.

• 1:00:15Shawn Ryan?

  Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

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• 1:01:27Shawn Ryan?

  All right, I got a hot question for you. You ready?

• 1:01:30Speaker 03

  Ready.

• 1:01:31Shawn Ryan?

  All right.

• 1:01:33Shawn Ryan?

  So we actually used Claude AI to scrape the internet for the most viral moments tied to your name. And here's what it came up with. There was some controversy around your Channel 5 interview with Andrew Callahan. A lot of people online were bashing you online for the word benevolent. What's your response to that interview?

• 1:01:58Speaker 03

  Yeah, that interview with Andrew, it was a two and a half hour long interview. He cut it down to an hour long interview. So imagine me and you have this conversation for two hours and you just chop out an hour of the conversation.

• 1:02:11Shawn Ryan?

  Everything that you say?

• 1:02:12Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:02:15Speaker 03

  Like, that's not how a podcast works.

• 1:02:17Shawn Ryan?

  Oh, man.

• 1:02:18Speaker 03

  And that was very messed up on his part, I believe, to go about and doing that. I was very kind. I let him come to the location where I had... I told him to film it. He actually made me mad, too. But first, so I had... That was like 72 hours after I'd posted the video. I'd been off, functioning off of literally like six hours of sleep that day. Or six hours of sleep those past three days. I said, like, me and Andrew are boys. Let's do the interview. I'm like, I'm down to have a conversation. In that text prior, he's like, oh, I've been getting doxxed and stuff like that. I said, yeah, um, like, here's the location, come film. And so then I see the interview and I see, I'm like, wait, what is this? Like, this is like all chopped up.

• 1:03:03Speaker 03

  You don't put in your answers to the questions where you know you were wrong as well. Like, that's not a fair interview. And luckily, I had filmed it on the back end, too.

• 1:03:11Shawn Ryan?

  Nice. Did you release it?

• 1:03:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, I released it.

• 1:03:14Shawn Ryan?

  Good man.

• 1:03:15Speaker 03

  And I'm not gonna say that was my best interview by any means. Like, I wasn't functioning at a hundred percent.

• 1:03:19Shawn Ryan?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:19Speaker 03

  To be honest. I just thought like, like, I thought we were boys. And, uh, obviously we aren't.

• 1:03:26Shawn Ryan?

  Man.

• 1:03:26Speaker 03

  And, uh, yeah, I mean, I messed up on the word benevolent, my bad.

• 1:03:30Shawn Ryan?

  Have you heard, have you heard from him since?

• 1:03:32Speaker 03

  He then made a full reaction video to the video. And what makes me mad is he knew that, uh, not to say the city I was in. And he does that in the reaction video. I was like, K, well, you just doxxed me.

• 1:03:46Shawn Ryan?

  What an asshole.

• 1:03:47Speaker 03

  Yeah, exactly.

• 1:03:48Shawn Ryan?

  Wow, wow.

• 1:03:52Shawn Ryan?

  You just met Elon Musk and you were rewarded a hundred thousand dollars from X for your investigative article. What was your conversation with Elon Musk? And is there something bigger coming between you and Elon that you haven't announced yet?

• 1:04:08Speaker 03

  I think we both just wanted to meet each other. And the first thing I said to Elon was just like, thank you. Said like, thank you for X, for having a platform where real world change can take place. All these other social media platforms, like YouTube, for instance, I posted that Minnesota video. It got four million views. I posted on X, it got a hundred and fifty million views. And within seven days, uh, altogether across all social media, across the internet, that video got four billion views.

• 1:04:37Shawn Ryan?

  Whoa, whoa, four billion views? Holy shit, dude.

• 1:04:43Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:04:44Shawn Ryan?

  Holy cow.

• 1:04:46Speaker 03

  And, and I said, thank you.

• 1:04:47Shawn Ryan?

  My whole channel has like two billion views.

• 1:04:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, so that Minnesota video.

• 1:04:54Shawn Ryan?

  Oh my gosh.

• 1:04:55Speaker 03

  It's the most viral video potentially ever in the internet. The most viral video on X.

• 1:05:03Speaker 03

  That's what they told me at X as well. And so I said, like, thank you. Like, your platform is where real world change can happen. This can't happen anywhere else. And I don't think too many people actually like say thank you to Elon Musk. Like, do people realize what he's actually done for society?

• 1:05:20Speaker 03

  Like, between Starlink, between Tesla, between the, uh, between X, between the tunnels, like, do people realize how much this man has done? PayPal, too. Like, do people actually realize how much impact this man has had on society?

• 1:05:40Speaker 03

  And everyone just wants to demonize Elon Musk.

• 1:05:44Speaker 03

  And so I'm sitting there, I'm looking at him, just eye to eye. I'm like, I'm like, wow, like, this man has done a lot for society. And he's taking his time to just talk with me. Like, he, I think, I think we both just wanted to meet each other and to have a conversation.

• 1:06:00Shawn Ryan?

  I mean, not only that, he's also motivated an entire new generation of innovators. I mean, they're all building, not all of them, but a lot of them. I interview a lot of them. That's it, that's their inspiration. And a lot of them are building, are innovating, things that are gonna go along with his mission to Mars or whatever, whatever. I mean, it's just, it's, it's, it's huge.

• 1:06:29Speaker 03

  100%.

• 1:06:30Shawn Ryan?

  He's inspired.

• 1:06:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, and just like the drive to still be doing this. Like, he doesn't need to be like, he's not money driven.

• 1:06:37Shawn Ryan?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:38Speaker 03

  And everyone wants to get mad at him for having money. I'm like, that's just what happens when you provide such value to the world.

• 1:06:44Shawn Ryan?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:06:46Speaker 03

  And, uh, so we talk and I was super nervous to initially go in there. Cause like, the first floor of X is like, uh, the first, so there's, the first floor of X is kinda like, more like a common area. And like, there's like, uh, cafeteria and they have their offices where they're doing certain stuff. And then you get up to the second level where he's at. And that's like more, more like serious vibe. Like, all the lights are dimmed. There's, uh, a lot more. A lot more like artwork of like the SpaceX, like the, like X, like the, the galaxy and stuff like that. And then you get back to where Elon is and he has all, all his security

• 1:07:27Speaker 03

  and there's windows and he has uh, security everywhere, like almost nearly every single window, there's a security guard. And so then his assistant comes and grabs me and I walk over to Elon and take my hand, take me in, we have this conversation. And we, like, like I said, the first thing I said is like, thank you, like for what you've done. And uh, I told him like some things I think he, like that X can improve on. And then I was super nervous. I had like a whole itinerary of stuff. I thought I was gonna have to like lead this conversation. And then we just started talking about like the fraud and his experience with exposing the fraud and like how incompetent the government can be at times. He told me like in PayPal, when they were building PayPal, they'd like come up, they'd make these cases of the people that are committing the fraud and give them

• 1:08:12Speaker 03

  to the FBI. And he'd be like, go, like, like arrest these people. And the FBI wouldn't do it, or, or it'd take a long, longer time. And he kinda talked about how kinda incompetent the government can be. And then we just talked about like, how corrupt it is and like uh, how suppressed we could become, what will happen if we do become suppressed and oppressed from, from the government. What does he say will happen? Potentially like a war could break out or states that could, could start to secede.

• 1:08:48Speaker 03

  Um, we talked, I, I mentioned like, yeah, like I, one of the reasons why I got into this is because I started to see what was happening in the UK. I told him this. And he's like, I can't even go to the UK. He's like, he said, I think I'd be arrested. And he says, people, people don't realize how bad it is until we are oppressed. To a point. Yeah.

• 1:09:11Shawn Ryan?

  Man.

• 1:09:12Speaker 03

  Can you imagine being in my position, just like, sitting there talking with Elon? It was, it was very surreal.

• 1:09:17Shawn Ryan?

  I'll bet it was, man. I'll bet it was.

• 1:09:19Speaker 03

  You wanna hear something funny, though?

• 1:09:21Shawn Ryan?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:21Speaker 03

  So, I, I probably had like, the craziest seventy-two hours of my life. Cause

• 1:09:28Speaker 03

  within seventy-two hours, I met

• 1:09:32Speaker 03

  uh, the richest man in the world.

• 1:09:36Speaker 03

  Then, the most powerful man in the world talks about me in a cabinet meeting. And then, I meet the vice president as well. All within seventy-two hours.

• 1:09:44Shawn Ryan?

  Pretty wild, isn't it?

• 1:09:46Speaker 03

  Yeah. I also went to seven different states in between those seventy-two hours. It's like, make all this stuff happen.

• 1:09:55Shawn Ryan?

  Life's a hell of a ride, isn't it?

• 1:09:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, it really is. It's fun.

• 1:09:59Shawn Ryan?

  I'll bet. It's awesome. Well, Nick, I can't wait to see what you got coming next.

• 1:10:05Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 1:10:07Shawn Ryan?

  Keep going, man.

• 1:10:08Speaker 03

  I will.

• 1:10:09Shawn Ryan?

  It's important.

• 1:10:10Speaker 03

  Thank you. You've, you've been actually one of the first, one of the first people who openly, like, supported me. I remember seeing your tweets, like, uh, you said something about, like, this kid has it, essentially. And then someone's like, someone's like, what makes you think that? And you, and you literally said, just wait and see.

• 1:10:26Shawn Ryan?

  I was right, wasn't I?

• 1:10:27Speaker 03

  You were.

• 1:10:43Shawn Ryan?

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