Shatter Your LIMITING BELIEFS: 3 Secrets to UPLEVEL Your GROWTH MINDSET

Imagine what you could achieve if you didn’t tell yourself you were limited. That’s where your true potential lies. Today we bring to light the common stories we tell ourselves holding us back from reaching our full potential, and how to break free from those limiting beliefs! Rob Dial, Noah Kagan, and Dr. Joe Dispenza to explore the powerful theme of breaking free from the limiting stories we tell ourselves. Rob Dial shares insights from his extensive experience in personal development, discussing how changing our internal narratives can lead to manifesting desires and achieving happiness. Noah Kagan brings his expertise in entrepreneurship, revealing how reframing our approach to challenges and failures can unlock paths to financial freedom and success. Dr. Joe Dispenza rounds out the conversation by explaining how modern science supports profound personal change, teaching listeners how to rewire their brains and bodies for better health and a more fulfilling life. In this episode you will learnStrategies to dismantle limiting beliefs and rewrite empowering personal narratives. How to apply principles of mindset change to achieve personal and professional goals. Entrepreneurial tactics for overcoming mental barriers to success. Scientific methods to transform your health and elevate your consciousness. Practical steps to evolve beyond old stories and embrace a new identity for transformative success. For more information go to www.lewishowes.com/1604For more Greatness text PODCAST to +1 (614) 350-3960Links to full episodes featured today:Rob Dial – https://link.chtbl.com/1516-podNoah Kagan – https://link.chtbl.com/1572-podDr. Joe Dispenza – https://link.chtbl.com/1540-pod Get more from Lewis! Get my New York Times Bestselling book, Make Money Easy! Get The Greatness Mindset audiobook on SpotifyText Lewis AIYouTubeInstagramWebsiteTiktokFacebookX

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• 0:00Lewis Howes?

  Welcome to this special masterclass. We've brought some of the top experts in the world to help you unlock the power of your life through this specific theme today. It's going to be powerful, so let's go ahead and dive in. Why do people create fears that hold them back from attracting or manifesting more?

• 0:18Rob Dial?

  So many people are held back by, I'll take a step back. So when I look at fears, I categorize them in two different types of fears. There's primal fears, and a primal fear is there is physical pain or death that's attached to it. And so we should have primal fears. So what kept our species alive, species alive, but there's actually on two fears that people are born with. It's the fear of loud noises and the fear of falling are the two that are built into the human circuitry. Everything else is learned. And so out of all the other ones that are learned, you have primal fears, which is actually like physical pain or death attached to it, which we need to survive. The other ones are intellectual fears, and an intellectual fear would be like I ran a

• 1:00Rob Dial?

  a webinar last night with a few thousand people. We were talking about the book and and I said, what's your number one fear? Everyone put in the chat, the thing that's holding me back the most. Ninety percent of them is a fear of failure. So it's like the fear of failure, the fear of rejection, the fear of not being loved, the fear of running out of money. All of those are intellectual fears because they're not actually existing in reality in this moment. And there's a quote that's in the book that I really loved, which is fear, an intellectual fear like we have and we're talking about is a perception of a imagined future event. And the key part is imagined future event.

• 1:35Lewis Howes?

  It may never happen.

• 1:36Rob Dial?

  And it's not happening right now. And so what's happening is we have these, we think and we feel like intellectual fears feel like primal fears in our body. Which is there's danger, I shouldn't go and do this. And so it's like, I have this fear of failure, there's danger, I shouldn't go and try to create the life that I want. I shouldn't try to manifest the life that I want. And so we have these fears and then so people say, okay, like Louis, I've got this fear of failure. Tell me how to overcome it. And then here's the craziest part is when you look at a fear that is an intellectual fear and you say, okay, now that I've identified it, how to overcome it? The key to it is you can't overcome something that doesn't exist.

• 2:14Lewis Howes?

  So how do you like go with that?

• 2:15Rob Dial?

  You, you, right. So that's, that's, that's the key, right? So, so first off, people need to like really get into their heads first off. Is you cannot overcome something that doesn't exist. You are creating in your mind, the boogeyman and all day you are fighting the boogeyman. But the boogeyman doesn't exist in the first place. And that's your fear of failure, the fear of rejection, the fear of not being good enough, not smart enough, not pretty enough to have the success that you want. The imposter syndrome, all of those are just figments of our imagination. And we're fighting them all day long and they don't actually truly exist. And so what it comes down to is, okay, I can't overcome it. But it still kind of lives inside of me from my childhood, right? And so what I've been teaching people is it's not about overcoming the parts of you that exist. It's about integrating the parts of you that exist. And so it's like, you can have the fear of failure.

• 3:00Rob Dial?

  Like I'm afraid of failing all the time and I screw up all of the time, right? And that's just the way that it goes. But it drives me to create better content. It drives me to create better stuff. And so the way I like to look at the fears that you do have that are intellectual fears is they are tools for your tool belt. Where it's like, okay, I have this fear of failure. I feel it inside of my body, which is usually where you feel it first. You don't notice the fear in your brain. It's usually like, I feel kind of anxious right now. And so you notice the fear inside of your body. And it's like, what am I afraid of right now? I'm afraid of failing. Okay. I notice it. I'm not trying to get rid of it because you can't get rid of parts of you. You know, if you look at like internal family systems, it's a, a version of therapy. It's the different parts of you. And so I can say, okay, this part of me is afraid of failing.

• 3:45Rob Dial?

  I can listen to that part of me or I could say, how can I use this fear to actually help me create better content or help me create, write a better book? You know, if I'm afraid of like putting this book on it just completely flopping, could do that, right? Or I could say, I remember when I was writing it, I was like, I really want this to be good. It made me do more rounds of edits, which in turn hopefully made it a better book.

• 4:06Lewis Howes?

  Yeah. And get more feedback from people and make sure you're more prepared and things like that. And there can be a, how can we make sure that we? Pursue the things we want and not get paralyzed by needing to be perfect due to our fear of failure.

• 4:21Rob Dial?

  Yeah. Yeah. So that actually goes perfectly, which is the third, the third part of, of chapter one, which is what holds people back. So there's identity, there's, or part one, which is identity, which is fears, and then the purpose that people have. And there comes a point in your life where you have to realize that failure and in success are not different. There, there are two sides of the same coin. You know, when you look at the creator of Honda said success is 99% of failure. Like you, you and I, we've put out over a thousand podcast episodes. I think I'm at like 13, 1400.

• 4:51Lewis Howes?

  1500.

• 4:52Rob Dial?

  You're at 1500, right?

• 4:53Lewis Howes?

  Who's keeping track?

• 4:55Rob Dial?

  We've had some flops, right? We've, we've done some things which are not the best. We've put out content that is not done really well. But what it's really about is like, you stop looking at the numbers and you say, what's my purpose actually behind this thing? My, one of my very first mentors used to always say to me, um, you've got to get off yourself and you've got to get on purpose. Off yourself is thinking about all of your intellectual fears. You know, if, if we're talking about creating podcast episodes, right? Cause we're both podcasters. If I don't want to start a podcast because I'm afraid of my, I work at a job and I'm afraid of Nancy in HR making fun of me for it, right? I could, it's a fear of, of failure. It's a fear of judgment. It's a fear of not being accepted, kicked out of the tribe, whatever it might be. And so we can look at it that way and say, well, I'm not going to start because I'm afraid of people judging me.

• 5:38Rob Dial?

  Or we, and that's being on self and thinking about myself. But if my purpose is like, for me, my purpose is, I remember what it feels like. I was nine years old and my dad was an alcoholic. I remember him passing away when I was 15 from being alcoholic. I remember the trauma that came from it. And I remember what it felt like to be in absolute suffering in my mind. And it was hell and I, I, I would never want to go back there. You couldn't pay me enough to go back to that moment. But through years of working on myself and trying to become better and coaching myself and reading books and going to courses and doing therapy and doing all of that, I've gotten myself to a place where I can overcome things that become hard. And I feel obligated to teach that to other people. That is my purpose.

• 6:23Rob Dial?

  And my purpose is to have people not be in suffering that I was in at one point in time because I know what it feels like and I hate that other people are in there. And so I don't care what anyone else thinks about me because my purpose is so strong that it doesn't matter if somebody says, "This podcast sucks." If it doesn't matter when I get a one-star review that people are like, "I love his content, but I hate that he cusses." And I'm like, "But that's authentically me."

• 6:47Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 6:48Rob Dial?

  And so...

• 6:49Lewis Howes?

  It sounds like when people get in alignment with their purpose, it doesn't matter what fears they might have or it doesn't matter what they're afraid of people saying them because when you're truly on purpose, you're willing to risk making a fool of yourself being judged for failing because you care more about the purpose than that fear.

• 7:11Rob Dial?

  For sure. A hundred percent. I care more about what... And what's interesting about is like the fear that we have of, "Oh, I'm gonna be judged if I put this out there, if I do this thing." There's such a small amount of people that judge you or that will be... There's such a small amount of haters in the world and there's such a huge amount of people who will actually say, "This is amazing, this is great." And so we think there's gonna be way more haters than there actually are. There's such a small amount of haters and there's so much... There's a large amount of lovers that are out there in the world and a lot of people just don't start the thing that they really, truly want to because they're afraid of just that one person that could possibly say something to them.

• 7:46Lewis Howes?

  That's true. And something I think about a lot, and this has helped me overcome any insecurity about putting something out or launching something or the fear of failure, is really thinking about my future self and saying, "Would my future self be proud that I didn't take the shot? Or more proud that I actually did take the shot? I failed, I learned something from it and it led to something even better after that failure or that loss." And I don't think our future selves will ever think, I'm proud of you for not taking a chance.

• 8:15Rob Dial?

  No.

• 8:16Lewis Howes?

  I'm proud of you for having a dream and not going for it.

• 8:20Rob Dial?

  For playing small.

• 8:21Lewis Howes?

  For playing small and for shying away because you were afraid of what a few people might think or say about you. I'm proud of you. Way to go. I don't think our future self would ever say that. I don't think our, you know, mentors would ever say, you know what? It was a good thing that you didn't go for it. You didn't give it a try. It doesn't matter if we succeed or win in everything we do, but it's the effort of doing it, I think, is where we gain pride in ourselves. So I think that's really cool.

• 8:50Rob Dial?

  Well, I think that's also where confidence comes from. Like, a lot of people will ask, like, how do I? A lot of people ask, how do I get confident, right? How do I build confidence in myself? And they think I have to go do something and I have to succeed. That's not necessarily the truth. Sometimes I think a lot of our confidence comes from feeling fear, doing it anyways. Maybe not having the results that we actually wanted to. But in turn, looked at and said, I'm really proud that I showed up for myself.

• 9:14Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 9:14Rob Dial?

  And that builds confidence in you.

• 9:15Lewis Howes?

  Huge time. You show up for you. That's big. But a lot of people don't know what their purpose is, or they feel like they have too many ideas, too many passions, and they don't know which direction to go. So what have you discovered about how to discover or find your purpose at this stage of life? And is there a formula you teach people?

• 9:35Rob Dial?

  Yeah. So there's a couple of different things. The thing that I hear more than anything else is that most people don't know what their passions are. And they don't know what their purpose is. More than I hear that I have too many of them. I heard a couple of that last night when I was live. And some people said that they did have too many things that they could do. But majority of people are like, I don't know what my passion is. I don't know what my purpose is. And then I ask them, I'm like, well, how often do you do something new? And they're like, not very often. And I was like, so here's the key to it is it's okay, right now, if someone's listening, not to know what their purpose is. It's okay to not know what their passion is, but it is not okay to not wake up every single day and not be in constant pursuit to find what that passion is, if you don't know what it is. And so if it's-

• 10:19Lewis Howes?

  And that takes trying new things.

• 10:20Rob Dial?

  Of course. You have to try a ton of new things. Like, for instance-

• 10:23Lewis Howes?

  And ruling out things you don't like.

• 10:25Rob Dial?

  Yeah, exactly. And try things and be like, oop, that didn't work. I don't like that at all. Like, you know, and the other thing that's important to know about passion and purpose is that your passion doesn't have to be your paycheck. Like you can look at people and see like I'm lucky enough, you're lucky enough that we're so passionate about this and we happen to be paid for it. That's amazing. Like that's by the grace of God, the best thing that's ever happened to me, right? But there's other things where it's like, some people are like, I really enjoy riding horses. And how do I make money off of horses? How do I make them my passion? I was like, you don't necessarily have to make money off of it, but maybe you start going, well, you know what I would like to do? I like to take my horses and I like to teach people that are in the inner city, how to ride horses. Or I like to teach people who have um, have uh, maybe psychological symptoms and they have anxiety or bipolar.

• 11:09Rob Dial?

  And I've learned that horses end up calming them down in some sort of way. And you decide that you want to help them. It doesn't mean you have to make money off of it. But I always say, if you found something that you love so much, why don't you try to spend as much of your time doing it? And so if it is this horses thing, and maybe you make like five grand a year of horses, or maybe it costs you more money. Can you have a job that you at least somewhat enjoy, not hate, but you somewhat enjoy? But it gives you enough free time to do the thing that you actually makes you feel alive. And so people always say like, well, how do I find those things? I think my personal belief is I think that that God, the universe speaks to you through energy, of the energy that we feel doing something. Like when I get done with this podcast, I am going to 100% have more energy than when we first started the podcast.

• 11:52Rob Dial?

  Cause this is what actually makes me feel alive. Like I feel the most alive doing this.

• 11:56Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 11:57Rob Dial?

  And so I think a lot of people need to think like, where's the most energy for me? Where do I have the most curiosity to try to learn something? What would I, what would I do even if it didn't make me any money? Like I would still, I mean, for years I didn't make money off of the podcast or anything that I did, right?

• 12:10Lewis Howes?

  You kept doing it because you loved it, yeah.

• 12:11Rob Dial?

  Hundreds of podcast episodes before I made a dollar off of it, right? Just because I love learning about people. I'm obsessed with neurology. I'm obsessed with learning about like, sitting down with someone and be like, why is Louis Way that he is? I want to know about his mom. I want to know about his dad. I want to make connections and put this puzzle piece together of this person. And so it's like, it gives me energy to meet people and find out what's going on and where they come from and how they became that.

• 12:33Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, I was interviewing um, someone yesterday and her name was Jenna Zoe. And she had a curiosity and a love for this thing called human design, which is about understanding kind of your. You're not personality type, but you're energy type.

• 12:47Rob Dial?

  Right. Based off of when you were born and.

• 12:49Lewis Howes?

  Exactly. Yeah. And she was, she had another business or she was working in the food industry, creating something around food and it wasn't really succeeding. But she loved doing this other thing on the side for years, like reading people's charts and like really helping them identify their energy type and making sure, are you in alignment with what you should be doing? And just supporting them in that, that creation of life. And she did that for years and you know, she didn't make any money for a long time. Then she made a little bit of money, but she enjoyed it so much that eventually she was like, why don't I just try doing more of this and see if I can make money? After five, six, seven years and eventually started making money and then said, you know what? Okay. Now I'm going to go all in on this.

• 13:30Lewis Howes?

  It doesn't have to be all in right away, or you don't have to monetize something you're enjoying right away. Maybe the timing will come later, like it did with you in some ways as well. And maybe if you lean into the curiosity and just keep doing that on the side or the weekends with your horses, eventually you could make money. Maybe you can, maybe you can, but finding the time to dive into things that you love more. I think it's always going to help.

• 13:55Rob Dial?

  You know what I've found that kind of goes with that too, that's important is that people want to start something and they think they should be like making a bunch of money in three months. I've found that for the majority of people who I've met that have become like something like big and they've been able to do something very successful, it takes at least five years. Five to seven is pretty average before it like really starts to take off. I don't know if it's like the universe testing us to be like, do you actually want this? Cause you better keep on this path. But I think the path of mastery is something that I like really love. Like I have, my first tattoo is a Roman numeral for 10,000 because I love the 10,000 hour rule. It's on my wrist right here. So I see it every single day. And I just love the idea of mastering something. And I think that if we just, we find something that we're kind of interested in, that seems interesting, that seems fun. And we start putting energy into it, we start getting better at it.

• 14:40Rob Dial?

  It's like Tony Robbins always says, progress equals happiness. When you feel like you're progressing towards something, not making money, but just progressing towards something, it makes you feel good and you want to keep doing it.

• 14:50Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 14:50Rob Dial?

  And you fast forward five years or seven years and you've become one of the masters of that thing. That's usually when people can write a book about something, they can start a podcast, they can grow a following on it. And that's usually where they can start to monetize.

• 15:02Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, you gotta have some type of skill set or some type of mastery. Maybe you're not the master, but you've mastered a part of it. And you'll start to attract more financial opportunities that way.

• 15:11Rob Dial?

  Yeah.

• 15:11Lewis Howes?

  Uh, but one of the things I feel like holds people back from discovering their purpose, tapping into their purpose, taking action on their purpose is the old character they've been playing for so long. You talk about this in your identity chapter, you know, they've been holding on to an identity that has been developed for them that isn't in their highest, best way, right? It's been the way society wants, parents, kids, whatever it might be. How can we get the courage to eventually kill off the parts of ourselves that are no longer serving us for our highest sense of purpose?

• 15:47Rob Dial?

  Yeah. Um, have you ever seen the, uh, the documentary Jim and Andy on Jim Carrey?

• 15:52Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 15:52Rob Dial?

  So.

• 15:53Lewis Howes?

  Incredible.

• 15:53Rob Dial?

  It is incredible, right? So everyone should watch it.

• 15:55Lewis Howes?

  So Jim Carrey is amazing.

• 15:57Rob Dial?

  He did the movie The Man on the Moon like in 1999.

• 15:59Lewis Howes?

  Andy Kaufman, right?

• 16:01Rob Dial?

  He was playing Andy Kaufman, right? So he was playing Andy Kaufman and he's a method actor, which means that he had to literally become him and he had to play him all day long for three or four months straight. Uh, to the point where even his driver said when he would pick him up in Hollywood and drive him home, he would still be Andy Kaufman in the car. On the way home, he'd be Andy Kaufman on the way home or on the way to go and shoot every single day. The crazy part about it though is that Andy Kaufman also played other characters. So Andy Kaufman was also Tony Clifton, which is a whole other character. And so he would, if, if they stopped shooting and he was Tony Clifton, he would go home and be Tony Clifton. And so he was Andy Kaufman some days, he was Tony Clifton some days, he was never Jim Carrey in those three or four months. And it's really interesting when you watch it because the people who are like, they were in taxi with him and they, they were on the show were like, he was almost indistinguishable.

• 16:46Rob Dial?

  Like he was the closest thing to Andy Kaufman that I've seen since Andy Kaufman. To the point where even his daughter, Andy Kaufman's daughter went and did sessions, like almost like mini therapy sessions, sitting down with Jim Carrey as Andy Kaufman as being her dad.

• 17:00Lewis Howes?

  That's crazy.

• 17:01Rob Dial?

  Crazy, right? And so what's crazy about it though is that when it ended, he said he forgot who Jim Carrey was. Like he literally forgot, he's, there's a point where he, the, there was that song, um, I think it was R E M did the song Man on the Moon. They're like, can you be, you know, we're gonna shoot the, the, the, the video, the music video for it. Can you be Andy Kaufman? And he's like, I don't think I can. He's like, cause I lost myself so much in that role that when it ended, I forgot what I liked. I forgot what I didn't like. I forgot my belief systems. I forgot everything about who Jim Carrey was. And the quote that he says, and it's actually in the book, is, I realize if I could lose Jim Carrey so easily, then this Jim Carrey. And you realize it was just another character that he was playing in his life. He was waking up and unconsciously every morning deciding to be Jim Carrey. And he was being that person.

• 17:45Rob Dial?

  And if you've seen like the spiritual awakening he's gone on in the past like 20 years, that was the beginning of it. It's because he lost his identity. He forgot who he was. And it shows you that it's like, our, our identity is just something we're choosing to be every single day. And we can look at parts of ourselves and we can say, do I like this aspect of myself? Do I not like this aspect of myself? So like, there's aspects of myself that I like. There's aspects of myself that I, that I don't like, and I've changed over years. Like, one of the things that was the hardest for me was, you know, with my father not being around, my mom working a lot, is I don't feel like I really felt a safe space of love when I was a kid. I didn't feel like it was just there and omnipresent. Like my wife, you know, her mom and dad are still together. She's got her two sisters. They're all really close. We, we were never really close.

• 18:29Rob Dial?

  So I never really had that. And so, we've been together now for 10 years. In the first couple of years, she was way more loving and I couldn't open up to the love. Like, it was hard for me to, because I felt uncomfortable. Like, my nervous system was like, what's going on? This person's too close to me. It almost didn't feel safe for you because it was unfamiliar. A hundred percent. Even though it should be the safest feeling in the world, right? But you're like also afraid of it, but you want it, but you don't want it, yeah. And so it was like me, me noticing different aspects of myself of like, I'm not as loving as I think I probably truly am, or what I could be. So let me, that was a part of me I didn't like. And so I was like, how do I open myself up to be a little bit more loving?

• 19:08Rob Dial?

  Which is hard because, you know, opening yourself up to be vulnerable allows you to, and be vulnerable, especially when you love somebody, allows you to be really hurt, especially when you've gone through heartbreaks and you've been, you know, if you've been heartbroken, cheated on, divorces, all these things that people could have. I think it really comes down to of how are we trying to have the courage to do it is that, uh, it's funny because I've, I literally have two tattoos. I'm referencing both of the tattoos. So the only other tattoo that I have is a, is a tattoo on my arm. When I was first starting the podcast, I was really nervous. And when I was, I left my job where I was making like a quarter million dollars a year. And I was like, I'm gonna do this thing. I don't know why, it just feels right, like the feelings felt right. And I was really fearful and I was like, I might go back to work for someone else.

• 19:51Rob Dial?

  And my sister comes out, I went home and I was back for Thanksgiving in 2015, the year I started the podcast. And she goes, hey, have you ever seen these box, this box from dad of dad's stuff? And I was like, no, and my dad had passed away, you know, 14 years ago at that point. And there were these, you know, it was like a T-shirt of his, it was his glasses. And there was these letters, my dad was in jail for a little while and he wrote letters to us. And he wrote a letter to my sister on her 20th birthday, which was a year before he passed away. And the very end of the letter, it says, I hope you live your life with courage, love and laughter. And I read it and I was like, this is actually speaking to me. Cause I'm in so much fear right now that I'm gonna go back to work for someone else and literally throw my passion away.

• 20:33Rob Dial?

  And I took my dad's handwriting, exact handwriting, it's on the inside of my arm right here. Yeah, it's on the inside of my arm. That's cool. You wanna see it? Yeah, I do. Anybody, it's on YouTube. So it says, live your life with courage, love and laughter. It's in the exact handwriting. And it's the end of that, that letter. It says courage, love and laughter, right? Which if you think about it, I was in so much fear. I was in so much fear that I was about to give up my entire passion and everything that I felt like I was born to do. Because I just wanted to go back to what was safe. And I think everybody feels it. And it's like, when you feel fear, we're always like, what's a hack? The only hack is you're gonna have to get yourself to a point where you're like, I have to do this. Or else I'm not going to be able to create the life that I really truly want. Right. And my biggest fear, like I have, I have fears, of course, I'm just a normal person.

• 21:19Rob Dial?

  But my biggest fear, like I remember, Louis, I remember sitting, the first person who I ever knew that passed away was my dad. Nobody I'd ever known that had passed away before. I remember flying up, we had, we had flown up to go see him and he was still in the hospital at the time. There, he was unconscious, we were flying to go see him. And by the time we got to the airport, we got the news that he had already passed away. So I went up there to go see somebody and ended up going there for a funeral. And so we were in this tiny little room and we were viewing it, the casket, and he was in the casket. And we were on this sofa that was right there and it was myself, my grandmother, which was his mom, my mom, my sister, the four of us are just sitting there. And I was looking at him and my dad was a dreamer and he was an amazing person, but he had a lot of demons that he had in his life.

• 22:04Rob Dial?

  His father killed himself and he walked in the room and saw it right after it happened. So he had demons that he just didn't overcome. And he was a dreamer, he was an amazing person, but I remember looking at him at 15 and being like, this guy had so much potential and he didn't follow his potential. He didn't, I know that he didn't create the life that he probably would have wanted to. And I was like, that will not become my life. It will never become my life in any sort of way. And so can I feel fear? Of course I can feel fear, but at some point you've got to decide, am I going to live a life that's full of fear or am I going to start being more courageous and live a life that's courageous? Because we all have a choice and we could go one way or we could go the other. But really what it comes down to is like, I know I'll be ridiculed for putting stuff out there.

• 22:47Rob Dial?

  I know that people are going to bash different things that I put out there, but it's more for me of like, what feels right in my heart is what I'm going to follow. And I think that's what people should think of. It's like, where do I have energy? What, some people are like, I'm 45 years old, I've been in this job, I went to college for this. I'm like, you could live to, you know, 90 years old, you're halfway through your life and you're going to live the rest of the 45 years doing something that you don't want simply because you went down the wrong path for a little while? Yeah. And so I think you just got to get to a point where you realize there's going to be fear that's omnipresent, it's always going to be there. It's just the way that we are as humans, you've just got to be courageous at some point in time.

• 23:27Lewis Howes?

  So when did you realize that you actually were worthy of love, of being rich?

• 23:34Rob Dial?

  Yeah.

• 23:35Lewis Howes?

  Of having nice things or buying a house with the money you've earned? When did you realize you were worthy?

• 23:41Rob Dial?

  I was in Barcelona.

• 23:43Speaker 02

  And I was just recognizing my own life. I was working with this woman, Stephanie. And I was just kind of, I was outside, there's Arc de Triomphe in Barcelona. And I remember being outside journaling on this iPad. Feeling like, wow, like what a cool life I created. Actually finally recognizing my own life.

• 24:00Lewis Howes?

  Reflecting back in the last 20 years and all the different things, ups and downs.

• 24:04Speaker 02

  The sadness of what I've done to the ex fiance, how I've created this company that I finally get to actually live my dream. And just kind of, you know, being able to reflect on all of that. Help me accept it and just enjoy it. Like, hey, money is great. I know people say money can't buy happiness. It's definitely made me happier now, finally being able to embrace it.

• 24:22Lewis Howes?

  Once you love and accept yourself and believe you're worthy, then money can buy you additional happiness.

• 24:27Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 24:28Lewis Howes?

  But it cannot buy you happiness if you feel unlovable.

• 24:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:32Lewis Howes?

  You don't accept yourself and you don't face the challenges and the pain and the sadness that's within you. Then it's just more sadness because I make this money.

• 24:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:41Lewis Howes?

  But I'm like still shameful about who I am.

• 24:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's still chasing. It's still this external side. And so with Stephanie, it, and it's the simplest thing. It's just day by day.

• 24:50Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 24:50Speaker 02

  Like do something for yourself. Do something that you're proud of for yourself. Like back in the day, we had this thing called Gebby. It was me and my buddy Adam from My Body Tutor, basically gratitude exercise breakfast you. And if anything, it's just like, just how do you do one thing for yourself each day? You feel good about yourself. Maybe it's in a relationship. So for me, it was like, all right, I'm dating these women. I have a, I did have a goal. I was like, I'd like to have kids and I'd like to have a real partner that I'm getting what I want.

• 25:14Lewis Howes?

  When did you realize you wanted to have kids and a partner where it was like a harmonious relationship? When did that come about?

• 25:20Speaker 02

  It took, it took years and it took years. After breaking up with fiance, it was like back and forth with her. And then working with Stephanie, I was like, I really did have to close the door in the past. And there was a visualization and I couldn't swing to my next branch, holding on to my previous one.

• 25:34Lewis Howes?

  Oh my goodness.

• 25:35Speaker 02

  You know what I'm saying?

• 25:37Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 25:38Speaker 02

  I was holding on because I was like, I like partying.

• 25:41Lewis Howes?

  Your previous identity, the lifestyle, the.

• 25:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 25:44Lewis Howes?

  And wow.

• 25:46Speaker 02

  It was feeling more harmonious just daily. It was honestly like a daily practice of, I really enjoyed being in Barcelona. I felt like, wow, I get to work on this business. I get to meet interesting people. And then it was directionally. I didn't know, kind of faith, what you were talking about with your stuff, like I had faith there's going to be someone out there that I'd eventually now start meeting. But I was being intentional about it and I told the ex, I sent her a message like, I can't reply to you anymore. And that was hard. That was really.

• 26:09Lewis Howes?

  You closed the chapter.

• 26:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah. And I'm sure she was mad and all these things, but I was like, you know, you, I want you to find someone that this good for you and.

• 26:17Lewis Howes?

  So it was still kind of lingering energy was like, okay, we're not together, but hey, how are you and checking in and every once in a while.

• 26:24Speaker 02

  Waiting for a text.

• 26:26Lewis Howes?

  Intermittently, yeah.

• 26:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 26:27Lewis Howes?

  So you made the decision like, hey, I cannot communicate with you anymore.

• 26:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 26:31Lewis Howes?

  You sent that message.

• 26:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 26:33Lewis Howes?

  Did your coach or therapist kind of guide you in that or was that something within?

• 26:36Speaker 02

  Yeah. So she was like, you need to send this message. And I was like, I'm not doing it.

• 26:40Speaker 02

  So she was, and, and this is kind of a weird, I would say hack for others. If you do have coaches or you meet with other people. I'd record my conversations with their permission.

• 26:49Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 26:49Speaker 02

  It's not secret.

• 26:49Lewis Howes?

  And listen back to it or?

• 26:50Speaker 02

  I listened to myself. And I noticed, I'm like, huh, are you proud of how you're, what you did with these dates? Are you proud of how your work is? Are you proud? And then just kind of an interesting moment of reflection, like when you do content, when you do anything, you get a chance to actually learn. And so through that I was listening to it and then when I was ready, you know, it takes time for all of us. How many times has someone given you advice? And then you read the book or you listen to something and finally like the 18th time you finally accept it. And I kid you not, it was probably about four weeks later when I finally sent it. And then four weeks later I met Mafe.

• 27:20Lewis Howes?

  Isn't that fascinating?

• 27:21Speaker 02

  I know, I know. I hate that story, but the key part, I don't hate, sorry, I love that story. But one thing that I've changed my perspective on based on, you know, what, what Isaac was asking. I believe I'm more optimistic. And not optimistic because yes, I'm, things are good, all this stuff, but like, how do you be optimistic when things aren't good? And there's a book, Learned Optimism, phenomenal book. And that optimism is a choice.

• 27:44Speaker 02

  And so, okay, business isn't working out, business, we still have problems. I told you, the YouTube team, most of them quit.

• 27:49Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 27:50Speaker 02

  AppSumo, we still have partners complaining or different things happening. How do you stay optimistic that, do you think the future is going to be better than today or not?

• 27:57Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, I think it's gonna be bright.

• 27:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, but that's hard.

• 28:00Lewis Howes?

  Even when things are going down and there's challenges and there's stress, I'm like, this is all happening in my favor for a brighter future.

• 28:07Speaker 02

  That's tough though, when it doesn't feel good, man, you know?

• 28:09Lewis Howes?

  It didn't feel good.

• 28:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 28:11Lewis Howes?

  For like, many months this year, I was going through a lot of challenges, just like, man, there's challenge here in the business and this person and this is challenging and revenue is going down and, you know, all these different things. And I was like, you know, after, you know, a period of being frustrated, you know, internally, I was like, okay, how can I look at this in a way? Because being frustrated and stressed is not going to cause me to feel better. And it's probably not going to get me into flow and creativity.

• 28:37Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 28:37Lewis Howes?

  And I'm probably, you know, stressing my, you know, girlfriend, now fiance out or whatever, people around me with that tense energy. It's not like I was explosive or anything, but it was more like, I just wasn't my happy self-will, right? And I started to shift that energy internally and say, this is all happening in my favor. And maybe this continues for six months or a year. And knowing that I'm going to make sure I put my attention on it, I want to align the right people towards it. We're going to be figuring it out. And eventually you will figure it out.

• 29:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:08Lewis Howes?

  Hopefully it figures out today, but if not, it's gonna be figuring itself out. And just take care of my health, my mindset, my attitude.

• 29:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:16Lewis Howes?

  I think that's really the only thing we can control.

• 29:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:18Lewis Howes?

  Is who we are and how we show up. I'm curious about this.

• 29:25Lewis Howes?

  Where do you think you'd be if you didn't emotionally and physically send that, that text of like, hey, I need to close this chapter with this relationship?

• 29:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:34Lewis Howes?

  Where do you think you'd be right now if you kept that door open? Whether it's with that or any type of door.

• 29:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:40Lewis Howes?

  From a previous thing that was kind of holding on to. Where do you think you'd be? Do you think you'd be in a peaceful, loving, beautiful relationship with a child on the way? Or do you think something else would be happening?

• 29:52Speaker 02

  How many times has something bad happened that turned out to be great?

• 29:55Lewis Howes?

  For me, every time.

• 29:57Speaker 02

  When people say do the work, I'm always like, what's the work? You know, you hear it, you're like, do the work. I'm like, can you tell me what it is so I can do it? And I think the work is just really trying to understand ourselves. Understanding what's going on, like, do I want to live the way I'm I've been living? And it's like, no, this is not what I want. I'm like, excited to have a family one day. And so, okay, what is necessary for me to feel worthy?

• 30:17Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 30:18Speaker 02

  To then lead to that kind of that.

• 30:20Lewis Howes?

  So what was that thing that was necessary for you to feel worthy of a different life? Financially, emotionally.

• 30:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 30:29Lewis Howes?

  Spiritually, you know, family, relationship. What was that thing?

• 30:34Speaker 02

  There's, there's not, there's not one thing. There's not one day that like I magically woke up because I meditated or something specially happened. I think it was literally like each day, can I just be a little kinder to myself? Just a little bit more generous to myself and then to others. And, you know, with the, let's just take it piece by piece, right? I have noticed that when my relationship's going well, guess what else is going well?

• 30:55Lewis Howes?

  Everything else. Yeah.

• 30:56Speaker 02

  And when one thing's going bad, it's like, maybe these other things are going bad. So let's start working on these different pieces of it.

• 31:01Lewis Howes?

  But I feel like you've always been a very generous person to others. Like, since I've known you, you've always been generous, giving, like, willing to jump on a call and say, let me help with anything, strategy, or you need an introduction. You're like that with everyone.

• 31:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 31:12Lewis Howes?

  So you're very generous outwardly to other people. Were you not generous to yourself?

• 31:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, generous with the money.

• 31:18Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 31:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, like, I didn't really enjoy the money. I told you, I was like, living in it. I lived in an 800 square foot house that's falling down. Literally like cracks in the floor, cracks in the walls. And it's like, and that's what I thought of myself. This is actually kind of an interesting experience. And I do want to answer your question, but I'm trying to think more through it. Go back to your old life. Go back to three years ago. I went to my old house about three months ago. I was like, huh, wow, this is what I thought of myself. And

• 31:44Lewis Howes?

  Your environment.

• 31:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was a representation of what I thought I deserved. And it's interesting for all of us, like what we think we deserve. Do we deserve great families? Do we deserve great, great money? Do we deserve a great where we're living? And then you start realizing like, okay, what's really holding me back from that? And every time it's yourself. And so going through therapy, talking with a therapist, talking with Stephanie, I wouldn't say it's like some, it wasn't some overnight thing.

• 32:08Lewis Howes?

  It usually isn't overnight. It's usually a series of events, a series of conversations, reflections, integrations.

• 32:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:14Lewis Howes?

  Closing of chapters, you know, practices. And then over time, it comes together. It's usually not like, oh, the first conversation I had, I learned to love and accept myself. It's like unwinding and unpacking things that caused us to believe we're unworthy.

• 32:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:32Lewis Howes?

  And learning to finally integrate that emotionally and physically.

• 32:36Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 32:36Lewis Howes?

  With the present day of doing things over and over that show you that you believe you're worthy.

• 32:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:43Lewis Howes?

  It's not just like, oh, I'm gonna think about it and I'm worthy. It's like, you've got to act on it.

• 32:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:47Lewis Howes?

  Continuously. And usually when someone's like, okay, I'm gonna let go of this old apartment or whatever, that is really serving my vision of what I want to be stepping into. So let me transition from this to the next thing. Let me leave a job that really isn't the vision I have. And I leave that and I don't know where I'm gonna go next. But then magically something unfolds. It's when we leave a relationship, we finally say, I love you, I appreciate you, but this is not good for either of us. It's time for me to close this chapter.

• 33:15Speaker 02

  Hundred percent.

• 33:16Lewis Howes?

  How hard that is emotionally, especially if you've been with someone for years and you've already talked about the future and unwinding that is extremely hard. But then, boom, something unfolds magically, it seems like.

• 33:29Speaker 02

  Isn't that funny how that happens?

• 33:30Lewis Howes?

  Isn't that crazy?

• 33:31Speaker 02

  I would also, I was, I was thinking how it's also experimenting.

• 33:34Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 33:35Speaker 02

  Like, okay, what if, what would a great relationship? Can I go on a date and just see what a great relationship would be like, maybe? Could I try? And I told you, like, try nice houses, see what that's like? Can I try first class? Be like, this is pretty good. Right? And then you start feeling like, okay, what do I need to do so that I can feel more comfortable doing these all the time? Besides just the money part.

• 33:51Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 33:51Speaker 02

  And I think with the worthy, it was just day by day, just doing things that I felt proud for myself.

• 33:56Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 33:56Speaker 02

  Like, is my behavior making me proud? Like, there's a lot of times where if I'm out to have a drink, I'm like, Do you think you'll feel proud of yourself for making this decision? And that's what I think a lot. And sometimes it's like, yeah, have a drink. Great. And other times it's like, no, let's not. And I'm like, good. Keep saying these kind things to yourself. That's something that I always think the word generous and generous, I think people think of money to others. But I think generous as words to yourself. Just be like, and you can also be generous with words to other people too, with your partner or with people you admire. Generous yourself be like, hey, man, you're doing well, even if it's not great or even the success immediately. You can just keep doing it.

• 34:29Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 34:30Speaker 02

  And there's no one stopping it. It's unlimited.

• 34:31Lewis Howes?

  I know. How do you think someone can

• 34:36Lewis Howes?

  become more valuable in the marketplace? Become more worthy of financial abundance of making and earning more? What are some things they can do internally and externally to appreciate and value?

• 34:52Speaker 02

  Like to get a better salary or to start their own business?

• 34:55Lewis Howes?

  Either one.

• 34:55Speaker 02

  Yeah. I think the thing that I've always found the most fascinating.

• 34:58Lewis Howes?

  Or to create a great relationship or all these things, you know, and just appreciating in value.

• 35:03Speaker 02

  Yeah. The thing that I've always come back to is how can you just go help one person? Like a lot of times on my YouTube channel or at AppSumo or with this book, like, I don't just go help one person. I think we get, you know, when people want a business, they think about million and they don't get the dollar. And when you actually help another person, you really realize like, oh, I have a lot more ability and capabilities really than I even realized.

• 35:26Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 35:27Speaker 02

  In the workplace, I think one, everyone should be an entrepreneur so that you have some control over your destiny. And you can keep your data. We have a lot of entrepreneurs at AppSumo. We have like Amy, she has a flower shop. Nick has a teeth whitening business. Alman's wife has a facial business, you know, they, and that's great. And so you can have that option. Within the company, I think it's really, this has been really fascinating, like who gets paid more and why? Like, how come an engineer makes 200 and someone in customer support makes 35? And it's within everyone's ability to recognize like what things are getting paid more for. And there's no limit that they can go do those other things. Like we have a lot of people in our company, like Matt Bean went from launch operations to now he's a product manager. Pretty cool. And there's all these people within our company and elsewhere.

• 36:12Speaker 02

  It's like, well, if you want more money, it's, there's no limit to what you can create. And so figuring out what is more valuable in a business and then how do you move up that chain?

• 36:18Lewis Howes?

  What do you think are the three most important skills for people to earn more money that they can develop?

• 36:24Speaker 02

  Number one is follow up. No one follows up.

• 36:28Lewis Howes?

  Just being consistent with following up.

• 36:31Speaker 02

  Bro, no one follows up. It's unbelievable. I like deleting people's emails just to see what happens.

• 36:37Lewis Howes?

  See if they reply in a week.

• 36:39Speaker 02

  DMs, emails, texts, just see what happens. No one follows up. If you really want something, you follow up, you persist. So I'd say that that's one of the best things. Number two, I mean, coming back on it, I would say it's how are they learning? What is their learning approach? I've seen different people that are like, yeah, I'm good. This is where I want to be. And it's like, well, you'll stay where you are. And I've seen other people, like, let's take Sean, for instance, he's the head of revenue at AppSumo. He was six years ago our junior salesperson. Now he's responsible for 80 million. And that's because Sean kept learning.

• 37:08Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 37:08Speaker 02

  Right? He has different coaches, he's taking different courses. And I'm like, ah, there's something there with that. So you're following up, you're learning. All these skills are available for everyone. There's nothing exclusive. I'd say the last one is attitude.

• 37:18Lewis Howes?

  Oh, gosh, man.

• 37:20Speaker 02

  I know, it's some of these obvious shit, but it's like, who's, it's been interesting to see the attitude of people, especially, we've had hundreds of people work at AppSumo. YouTube team, all these people, I've seen a lot of different friends at a company. It's like, who is people, whose attitude? And I like people that have a solution attitude.

• 37:39Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 37:39Speaker 02

  Like, oh, this didn't work. What else can we do?

• 37:41Lewis Howes?

  That's huge.

• 37:42Speaker 02

  And it's not exclusive. Everyone can work on their attitude, no matter what. If you're starting your business, if you're as an employee at a company, or whatever it is, in a relationship, whatever that is.

• 37:51Lewis Howes?

  Dude, I have, you know, half my team is virtual and half my team is here. And Alexandra and Sammy here, who are in the office here.

• 38:00Lewis Howes?

  You know, every day I walk in and they just have, you know, they just have a good attitude. And for me, you have no idea how far that goes, when, especially as someone who's got challenges. If you're the business owner, you've got challenges, fires you're putting out all day and just different people you're dealing with throughout the day, right? Decisions to make. So when someone is just consistently following up with a good attitude, even when they got challenges, they don't have to be perfect every day, but just like a consistency of a positive attitude, a solution oriented attitude, you have no idea how valuable that is.

• 38:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:33Lewis Howes?

  How, how much people appreciate that. There has been so many times that I've played sports on teams where. There was some incredibly freakish athlete, just like so talented, like just way better than everyone else, but had the worst negative attitude and it ruined the entire dynamics of the team. But you're like, oh, but they're so good, but they're just bringing everyone down with their attitude.

• 38:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:59Lewis Howes?

  And the moment you remove that person, or they remove themselves, it's like, wow, there's this flow and this is like connection and there's this collaboration and there's just this, you know, progress that's more effortless. When you remove one person with a negative attitude, or they remove themselves for whatever reason.

• 39:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:18Lewis Howes?

  It's incredible. I'd rather have a team of people who would just have a solution oriented attitude than like the superstar talented technical engineer or like graphic designer or video editor with a negative attitude all day long. You can do so much more with positive attitude. I always talk about like the three things we look for are attitude, energy and effort. It's like, if you can be consistent with those three things, you've got a place here. You know, and those are all things in your control.

• 39:47Speaker 02

  A hundred percent.

• 39:48Lewis Howes?

  They're all in your control. And if you have a learning mindset as well, and you keep growing, like then the earning potential just keeps going up more and more, so faster.

• 39:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:55Lewis Howes?

  Man, I love this, man. This is powerful stuff. I don't know if this is what you were thinking about.

• 39:59Speaker 02

  No, this is the opposite of literally what I was thinking we're going to talk about, which is it's good. It's like, I like getting outside of the, like our auto narrative.

• 40:06Lewis Howes?

  Yes, yes.

• 40:07Speaker 02

  And, but I, I don't think it's unique in the sense that we're all going through our own different challenge, like everyone, you have your own personal life going on. Everyone watching has their own, like, I've got a family and I'm struggling and maybe I'd like to be an entrepreneur, or I've got a day job and it sucks, or I want to get a job. And, you know, we're all going through it.

• 40:22Lewis Howes?

  Exactly.

• 40:22Speaker 02

  We're all, frankly, the real answer is we're all figuring it out.

• 40:25Lewis Howes?

  We are, man.

• 40:26Speaker 02

  And so it's been, it's been a journey that I'm, I'm happy to share and I've been. Fortunate to be able to figure it out at 40 where I'm at than figure it out at 60 or 70.

• 40:36Lewis Howes?

  Figuring it out. We're still figuring it out. Once you have your kid and you know, the relationship dynamic is just gonna be like, ah, I don't know anything. What do I do now? Right?

• 40:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, but I think one of the things that's cool is there's so many other people that have figured these things out, or at least have gone through what we're going through. So it's been super cool having the baby. That I call up friends. I'm like, what outfit, what outfit should I buy? Well, for my, for my, the baby mom, I was like, you know, what's cool clothing for her? So like this week I was buying cool clothes for her. Or I'm talking to my business partner and he has a baby and I'm like, what apps do you use? And he's like, oh, Wonder Weeks. You gotta check out Wonder Weeks and The Bump. And so I have these apps now.

• 41:08Lewis Howes?

  I gotta check these out. I mean, I'm not.

• 41:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, let's get you there, dude. Now I'm like, team baby. Let's go, everyone.

• 41:14Lewis Howes?

  Once I'm, once I'm ready, I'm gonna be hitting you up.

• 41:16Speaker 02

  Dude, please.

• 41:16Lewis Howes?

  You'll have like a year of experience by that time.

• 41:18Speaker 02

  Well, I'd love, if you, people have kids out there or they babysat kids and they have comments or feedback, I'd love, I love suggestions.

• 41:24Lewis Howes?

  Give your parenting tips below.

• 41:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, man. So that's been, but there's people out there that have gone through it and like, same as AppSumo, who's these coaches that have already gone through it. Uh, and so there's been a lot of people that we've asked for, for help.

• 41:35Lewis Howes?

  I've got a few more questions I want to ask you, but I want people to, uh, get the book Million Dollar Weekend. I don't know if anything we talked about here is my head to the book, but get the book Million Dollar Weekend, The Surprisingly Simple Way to Launch. Seven Figure Business in 48 Hours. Packed with battle-tested entrepreneurial strategies. You know, I think it's interesting because probably when you wrote this book, you were thinking about, okay, what are all the tactical things? That I did and other people have done that they can actually launch with strategy and game plan and goal setting and team and delegation and optimization. And all these different strategies which are time-tested and backed.

• 42:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 42:15Lewis Howes?

  But a lot of these entrepreneurs, they are successful in that, but then they forget how to love themselves, love other people, have healthy relationship with self. Feel worthy and deserving of the success they're having. Manage the success without overwhelm and stress. Like there's all these other emotional things that we need to learn once we create that, if we don't learn them before. And I'm glad you're talking a lot about those things right now. Speaking of having kids and. Billionaires, you've interviewed a lot of mega millionaires billionaires who do have kids. And I'm assuming some of them have regrets around not being there for their kids as much as they would like to.

• 42:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 42:56Lewis Howes?

  Or not being as emotionally available, focusing more on the business than them. And then there's others that maybe did it really great and they showed up for their kids in a beautiful way and they built their business in a big way. How do, without being a parent yourself yet, but interviewing a lot of parents with a lot of money. What have you learned from rich people with kids on how to not ruin their kids? With access to a private jet, with access to unlimited money, with access to the best private teachers and everything and. You know, just without spoiling their kids, how do you raise conscious, loving, generous, healthy, kind humans? When you are mega rich?

• 43:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'll find out. I'll tell you.

• 43:40Lewis Howes?

  What have you learned from people you've interviewed?

• 43:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, I'd say the number one thing is how are you leading by example? In all aspects. Yeah. So how are you showing up yourself? Are you? And I was, I heard a story where these rich people hired a nanny and then the kids never even saw the parents.

• 43:56Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 43:57Speaker 02

  Are you doing the dirty work? Are you doing the dishes? Are you showing up or are you just outsourcing everything? And not showing up for your responsibility? And how are the parents treating them? Because I think if you earn money, which I think everyone should have a chance to do it, which they do. You, and you have access to be able to have help, to get groceries, to buy whatever things you want. And you shouldn't do that. You should definitely do that. It makes your life easier. But I think it's figuring out like, what are the parts you really want to impact on your kids and how are you teaching them that by doing it yourself? And so that's something that with Mafe, it's talking about like, how do we want to, do we want to have a bunch of staff? And I'm like, no, we shouldn't. Both of us have agreed, like, let's do the hard work in the beginning. And then we figure out, okay, where is it? We don't need to always do these things and we can hire help around that stuff.

• 44:36Lewis Howes?

  Sure, sure.

• 44:36Speaker 02

  So that to me is how we're looking at it.

• 44:39Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 44:40Speaker 02

  I think most of the other people probably have been so focused on this money. And I remember with Mafe, I brought it to my house. It's a $2 million house. It's gone down because the market's going down. You know, maybe it's one and a half by the time you watch it. I remember brought it to my house.

• 44:54Speaker 02

  And she goes in the door and I'm like, when I've brought over dates in the past, it was a very long time ago. I'm like, look at this house.

• 45:01Lewis Howes?

  I'm the man.

• 45:01Speaker 02

  Look at this house. Look at this. I have a photo of me once you walk in, you know, right there. And she didn't give two. I was like, what the? I did all this work. You're supposed to be impressed. She's like, and I remember, and I asked her about it a few months ago. I was like, you came over to my house. You didn't give two, you didn't care about it at all. She's like, I just care about who you are.

• 45:18Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 45:19Speaker 02

  And I was like, what? You know, I was like, I did all this work. And it was a beautiful moment of just for all of us.

• 45:26Lewis Howes?

  That's beautiful.

• 45:26Speaker 02

  Like, who are we? Without any of these extra things, right? Who are you as a parent? Who are you as an individual? How are you showing up for as a partner in your business and your relationship at work, whatever that is? And that was a great moment. I'm very lucky to be with someone like her.

• 45:39Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 45:39Speaker 02

  That in parenting, I have a great partner in that. And then how am I showing up that just as a dad? And I asked a friend of mine, I was like, how do you, how do you be good parents? I feel there's people who had great parents and they go to therapy. There's people who had bad parents go to therapy and all these things. The friend was like, it's hard to say how that's going to happen. You just have to give a. And that's it. And that's it. Just show up, leave by someone, give a these, these kids and you can't really control all the other outcomes of this stuff. But if you're doing that, you're doing your best around it.

• 46:08Lewis Howes?

  That's beautiful, man.

• 46:14Lewis Howes?

  When we enter a relationship from survival or stress or lack of worthiness or neediness, I need someone to make me feel more love because I don't have it myself.

• 46:26Lewis Howes?

  What do we usually attract and create when we're attracting from neediness, survival and a lack of wholeness?

• 46:35Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah, I think that all of that lack, all of that separation is separation from love. Right? And the problem is, is that we've just been conditioned into thinking that it comes from out there. It comes from that person, that drug, that circumstance, that, that thing, that object, the app, whatever it is. And you're, you're relying on your outer world to change your inner world. And so when things are good, you feel good. When things feel bad, you feel bad. So you're, you're out of fact, you're not a cause in any way. So what if though, you had a way to find that independent of your outer world? The data we have suggests it's absolutely possible. Now, you're free.

• 47:18Joe Dispenza?

  You're free, like you don't need anybody or anything. You'll be a lot cooler to hang around with. Everybody would be like, "Well, you know, that's just..." That would allow them, I know this. Your presence would allow them to move out of survival. They would open their heart a little bit more, they'd trust you a little bit more, they'd be more kind, they'd be more soft-spoken, less egocentric. Your presence would do that, and may not be the first time, but they would start figuring out like, "Wow, this guy is really different." You know, something's different about him. And that's just because you're present and you're giving them your attention without judgment. You see how hard it is to change. You've actually made that change.

• 48:01Joe Dispenza?

  Because you've made that change and you see that you've made that change, but you see that in them, you're no longer judging them. You have compassion for them, like, "Dude, that's a tough one." "Dude, it took me a long time to get over that," but you're not judging them. Like, what's wrong with you? You're like, "Oh, my God, I totally know what that's like." You've crossed that river. So, of course, you would never offer them advice unless they asked you. You would probably give them a one-liner. I mean, people who heal in our work, so many times, you know, people in a state of desperation will say, "What meditation did you do?" And they laugh at them, like, "It has nothing to do with the meditation, it was just I changed." And it was an arduous process, but they're telling a different, they're telling the story of their future.

• 48:45Joe Dispenza?

  They're not telling the story of their past, their ex, or their betrayer, or whoever that person is. They have no regrets about that, because why? They wish them well, they hope they're happy. It's not like they're even trying to forgive to be spiritual, you know? People who try to forgive, like, "I'm really gonna try to forgive that." Working hard to forgive. Yeah, it's just not how that works. Like, you're in love, like, you don't have to try to forgive, you're just, you just don't want to lose this feeling, and you take your attention off that person, you're good. There's a lot of freedom in that, and that's how people heal. They're building their own field, they're giving their body their energy back again, they're taking their power back in so many ways. So, and then there is, then there is community, a collective consciousness. Like, I...

• 49:30Joe Dispenza?

  I like great conversation. I like spirited conversation. I like to be scientists or people in my life that I love. I like to engage in just what the limit is and like everybody take us on a journey to see how far we can go. I don't like to talk about like things that really that are that where there's pain or suffering or what I don't know. Where there's ego, I don't really like that. Like that's a consciousness and and everybody's done it. But i- if you're truly on the path of evolution, you outgrow it. Yes. You outgrow complaining like you just, you just don't, you don't want to make yourself unhappy anymore. You outgrow talking about yourself like you're better than anybody because if you do, you gotta face off with that person tomorrow and overcome them tomorrow. After a while, you're like, dude,

• 50:16Joe Dispenza?

  just stop that. So you don't have to deal with you like that anymore. So you just start, you start outgrowing things that are just the side effect of your evolution. It's not like you have to try to do it. It's just the side effect of a change in consciousness, a change in energy, a change in awareness, change in emotional states. Yes. And so in the heart, it is the selfless place. It's a selfless place. We can give from the heart. We care from the heart. We're kind in our heart. We're compassionate in our heart. We're inspired in our heart. You know, we fall in love with our heart. We're grateful in our heart. And so I think people feel with every other part of their body but their heart. Like they just don't feel with it, right? So practice feeling with your heart. Yes.

• 50:57Joe Dispenza?

  And um, God, we have, we have such great data. You know, we put these monitors on people for 24 hours, right? And I used to think primarily it was women that had these moments. Now we're seeing that men have them too. In fact, the men whose spouses take them or partners take them to an event and they really don't want to come, those guys are gonna be fine. They have really, really big moments. So, so we see them in their meditation where you can these little blocks of five minutes and you see the heart just drop in the coherence and it's just beautiful lines, beautiful looks, you can see this, it's very easy to see. You see this person sustaining it for 45 minutes during their meditation. So you're like, hmm, alright, this person nailed it. You go to the next meditation,

• 51:40Joe Dispenza?

  another 45 minutes again. Hmm, done it once, done it twice. This is, looks like this person's getting a skill. All of a sudden, they do it a third time, another 45 minutes, and then low and behold, those three meditations in one day, then they're, they're in their room. You know, getting unpacking and getting ready for bed, they're still wearing their heart rate monitor. And while they're not in a meditation, for one hour, while they're just unpacking, getting ready, there's an enormous amount of heart coherence is taking place for a whole hour. Why? Because, just like a person who has a panic attack, who's embracing the worst-case scenario in their mind every day and emotionally feeling the anxiety and the fear of that event actually occurred, that image of that emotion, that stimulus and response, that

• 52:24Joe Dispenza?

  thought and feeling is conditioning the body to become the mind of anxiety. The body has a panic attack with you or without you. Try as you may to control it with your conscious mind. You can't control it. You program it subconsciously, right? So is it possible to have a spontaneous love attack? That's what she had. She had one hour or her body went into ecstasy. Wow. And you could see it. I said- A love attack? A love attack. Wow. She, I said to her, "What did you do?" She said, and I saw it. She, she laid, she got in bed and she laid down and rolled over and went to sleep. So you see her, about an hour and 10 minutes, perfect heart coherence and just see it drop off into sleep. 13, 1400 different chemicals released to restore and repair the body. So the love that you feel

• 53:09Joe Dispenza?

  is, is the glue that creates connection on a cellular level, on a molecular level, on an atomic level. Peel the atom all the way back, right to the center of the nucleus and you have nothing but energy. And that energy is what's called low entropy. And low entropy is high order. And high order is high energy. And it's a lot of, lot of power. So as you move closer to, to that source of everything physical and material, we have such great data to show that people actually run into it. And when they do, their autonomic nervous system goes into these elevated states of high, high, high gamma brainwave patterns.

• 53:52Joe Dispenza?

  Now, gamma is super consciousness. Gamma is very conscious, very aware. So the person's whole entire autonomic nervous system is processing hundreds of standard deviations of gamma outside of normal. That's not a little gamma. And it's so coherent. Now, the autonomic nervous system- Touches every single cell in the body, controls and coordinates all those systems, right? So now imagine stress is autonomic dysregulation, incoherence. This is autonomic regulation, but this is not a little regulation. This is enormous amount of energy that's taking place in the brain. And the autonomic nervous system is on fire and every single cell in the body is getting

• 54:36Joe Dispenza?

  touched by that frequency. And that frequency is carrying information and energy is informing matter. And that connection creates that feeling of pure love, of ecstasy or bliss. And now the person takes a piece of it with them, they become more of it and it becomes them. And so we measure their blood and there's a lot of oxytocin. We measure their blood and there's information in that blood that wasn't there before that heals cancer, that reverses Alzheimer's, that causes viruses to not enter the cell. I mean, it causes the microbiome to change in a matter of days. Like so that that interaction with that unifying field of energy that exists beyond our senses, whose signature is oneness, whose signature is wholeness, whose signature is pure love,

• 55:22Joe Dispenza?

  means then that it lives within you and all around you, then you'd be remembering who you are and where you came from, which is pure love. And it is the most familiar unfamiliar feeling you'll ever have. And it's not chemical. Wow. It's electric. And when you have that moment, many times, there's an upgrade that takes place in the body. There's a disease, now it's gone. There's the eczema, it's gone. There's a myasthenia gravis, now it's gone. There's the Parkinson's, now it's gone. There's the blindness, now it's gone. There's a energies informing matter and that enormous amount of regulation, high, high amounts of regulation is raising the body in frequency, it's raising the body in light and all diseases lowering in frequency. So the person is connecting to something way bigger than their senses, way something beyond their senses and it's

• 56:07Joe Dispenza?

  coming from within them. Now, and you only need one of those and you're, you're okay from that point forward and the way you see life. You have some veil, some illusion, some conditioning, some hypnosis is removed and you're now way more relaxed in your heart.

• 56:27Joe Dispenza?

  And way more awake in your brain instead of unconscious, stressed out in a program, right?

• 56:33Lewis Howes?

  And when I think you're more awake in your, your heart and your brain, you start to attract more great opportunities and you start to see, is this person in alignment with my type of?

• 56:44Joe Dispenza?

  Resonating, resonating in that consciousness.

• 56:46Lewis Howes?

  Exactly.

• 56:47Joe Dispenza?

  You'll be able to find your tribe. It'll be as obvious as anything.

• 56:50Lewis Howes?

  Exactly. Whether you're looking for a partner or friends or community or a place to work.

• 56:54Joe Dispenza?

  Business partner that you can trust.

• 56:55Lewis Howes?

  Exactly.

• 56:56Joe Dispenza?

  That you resonate and you feel that and, and, and the heart is a strong element in the creative process. So if you have a coherent brain, then you're sending the signal out into the quantum field. That's the, that's the potential in the quantum field that you're selecting that already exists. And you gotta have an intention. The more coherent the brain, the more the electrical signal takes place in the field. But if you wanna create the experience, the synchronicity, the opportunity, you gotta need a coherent heart and the heart is the magnetic field and the magnetic field draws things to us. So now we don't have to go get it any longer because that's what we do in three dimensional reality. All of a sudden you start noticing, I really didn't do anything. Well, I got the email.

• 57:37Joe Dispenza?

  I got the phone call. I got the opportunities. I met this person led to this and wow, and all of a sudden I have this life. And, and so if you're gonna believe in that future that you're imagining with all of your heart, it's gotta be open and activated and train people to get in that place. And when they're in that place, they have wonderful relationships with everything and everybody because they're okay with themselves.

• 58:02Lewis Howes?

  Yes. Can you explain, I love this explanation. At your retreat, you talk about this over and over, sending an intention with a signal from your thought out into the field.

• 58:13Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah.

• 58:13Lewis Howes?

  And then with your heart, drawing this intention from the physical world to you physically.

• 58:19Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah.

• 58:20Lewis Howes?

  Can you explain, every time you say this, I love it. And it just reminds me about the power of intention and having a coherent heart and brain connection, right?

• 58:29Joe Dispenza?

  And those are the tools.

• 58:30Lewis Howes?

  Being so clear on your thought and thinking of why you want this thing, you know, not wanting it from a place of lack, but already feeling grateful, all these different things that you teach in the retreat. But can you explain what this does when you have a signal from the brain and you have a magnet from the heart? How does that work in the physical world and how can we apply this to? You know, if someone's been single for a long time and they're like, you know what? I'm ready for love. I'm ready for a greater connection and I've let go of my past. I've forgiven. I feel like I'm in a space that's allowing me to feel love myself and I'm allowing to bring a partner to me. How does this connect to that as well?

• 59:10Joe Dispenza?

  Okay. Well, let's talk about how we typically create. Okay? We, we basically create in lack or separation. And you're walking down the street and you see someone with a nice car and you're like, I love that car. And you don't have it. You want that car because you don't have it. So you're gonna go out and work or do whatever you can to get that car. And, and in order for you to get that car, we're in the plane of demonstration. You gotta do things. So there's the thought of having the car. And then there's the experience of having it. And the diff- the distance between the thought of the car and the experience of getting it is called time. Right? That's separation. So then, in three dimensional reality, you gotta, you gotta, everything that we do to create, to, to bring those two points of consciousness together,

• 59:52Joe Dispenza?

  takes time and energy. So we gotta do things. We gotta get up and go try things and try things out and do things and work and duh. And then you buy the car finally, and then you may have to make payments. So you gotta keep working to pay it off. So it takes a lot of time and energy. So in three dimensional reality, the plane of demonstration, there's a separation between the thought of what you want and the experience of having it. And you gotta do things to get it and that's called time. So then the cause and the effect, one point of consciousness, another point of consciousness, the separation is called time. Okay. Well, you can get really good at that. You can get trained. You can go to school. You can make a lot of the right choices. You can meet the right people. You can figure out ways to accumulate more things and get all the things I want that you think that makes you happy. Right?

• 1:00:34Joe Dispenza?

  But after a while, you're like, some people never actually create the thing they want. They spend their entire life in lack because they're waiting for that event to happen to take away the lack of not having it. Right? So. Their senses are fooling them into the illusion of separation, right? So they're creating matter to matter. And matter to matter takes time and energy. You can get really good at doing it. Okay. So there's this invisible field of unifying energy that exists beyond the senses. That's unifying everything physical and material. And the forces of nature, quantum physicists have been trying to unify gravity and strong and weak nuclear forces and electromagnetism. Some, there's some intelligence that's keeping all of this in order after an explosion.

• 1:01:17Joe Dispenza?

  Like after there's an explosion, there's no meaning disorder, but we've got a lot of order here. So unifying all those principles is really what quantum physics is about and finding the mathematics to do it. But undeniably, in this realm, in the quantum realm, there's no separation. It's, there's nothing physical. There's nothing material. There's no matter. That's all taking place in three dimensional reality. It's all energy. It's all frequency. It's all vibration. It's all information. It's all consciousness. It's all thought. That is that invisible field of energy. So, okay, that invisible field of energy, Einstein said, the field is the sole governing agency of the particle. He didn't say the particle controls the particle. He said the field controls the particle.

• 1:02:00Joe Dispenza?

  So if I can change information in the field, I should be able to affect the particle matter. So it turns out that the, an atom is 99.99999% energy, information. There's nothing physical or material there. Point 00001 material, when the probability of us seeing the truth of reality is zero. And we are only seeing a small spectrum of frequency, the rainbow, visible light, bouncing off the most stable form of energy called matter, giving us this hologram, this illusion of separation. Okay. So if there was a way to create from the field, instead of from matter and move closer to source,

• 1:02:41Joe Dispenza?

  and create from a place of wholeness unless from separation, I'd have to be able to get to the field.

• 1:02:46Rob Dial?

  Yes.

• 1:02:47Joe Dispenza?

  So then if, where you place your attention is where you place your energy. And you could, you develop the ability to take all of your attention off your body. All your attention off all the people in your life. All the objects and things, your cellphone, your car, your house, whatever. All the relationships with all the people, all the places you need to go, the place you're sitting, the place you grew up, the place you sleep, the place you work. And not think about the predictable future, the familiar past, and settle into the present moment. You would go from a somebody to a nobody. From a someone to a no one, from something to nothing, from somewhere to nowhere, from sometime to no time. That is the moment your pure consciousness. You would be disinvesting all of your attention, all of your energy out of this three dimensional reality, out of the known, and placing it on the unknown.

• 1:03:31Joe Dispenza?

  Now, let's demystify the process. Take away everything physical and material in the universe. Take away the earth, take away the moon, take away all the planets, all the moons from the planets. Take away the sun, the light from the sun, the stars, all the light from the stars, galaxies. You say everything away, wipe everything out, physical material. What are you left with? Nothing. Turns out that that nothing is filled with a lot of frequency and energy. That's true. And I don't know how to explain nothing to a materialist. But when you can linger in that place without a name, without a face, without a body weight, without a diet, without a disease, without a profession, without an identity in any way, without a past, and you can linger as pure consciousness, something really profound happens to the brain. Different compartments of the brain that have been modulated or compartmentalized

• 1:04:15Joe Dispenza?

  or subdivided because of the stress hormones, you know? You shift your attention from one person to another person, to another problem, to another thing. That habituation fragments the brain. The brain becomes a house divided against itself, and you narrow your focus, you over-focus. You become obsessive about something. That's what we do in stress. We turned out, it turns out if you open your awareness to nothing, the brain starts getting highly organized. Different compartments of the brain that were modulated start unifying. The brain starts firing this more holistic state, and the whole entire brain is resonating at the same frequency. Now, you get that brain going for that period of time like that. Waves start, that are coherent, start interfering with each other, and when they do, they create bigger amplitudes. The higher amplitude, the higher the energy in the brain.

• 1:04:58Joe Dispenza?

  So now you have resonance in the brain, and the brain starts getting very mathematical, very organized, right? So that brain that's coherent, the entire brain is functioning as one neurological network. The two hemispheres are coming together, and there's this kind of psychic union called wholeness. Now, that state of coherence, in moving out of the beta brainwave states into a slower brainwave state, produces electrical signals. Yes. And that electrical signal is the intention. That's, the more clear your intention is, the more coherent the brain is, the stronger the signal. Okay, so if you decided to create from the field instead of from matter and you were just pure consciousness, and I asked you to send the signal out from a coherent brain,

• 1:05:40Joe Dispenza?

  whatever that thing is that you wanted, you could, you trained, we trained you how to do that, then you would be shimmering the entire vacuum, that entire void, you are that, you're not you any longer, you're the source, right? So if you're the source and you're sending the signal out, then you're, you're touching the consciousness of everybody, of everyone, of everything, of everywhere, every time, the, the entire field is becoming electric because of your intention. Wow. Okay? Now, if you're source, why would you go anywhere to get anything? And so consciousness is coherent brain, and then the energy of the heart is love, and

• 1:06:24Joe Dispenza?

  pure, pure love is source. So if I asked you to fall in love with that future, and I asked you to draw the future to you with the magnetic field of the heart, the heart produces a magnetic field up to three meters wide, that's, that's, that's studied. So now, love is the glue that holds the atom together, okay? Okay, if I got a coherent heart, the more coherent my heart is, the more energy in my heart, the more I can draw my future to me. So you send the signal out, you draw the experience to you, and now you don't go anywhere to get anything. When there's vibrational match between your energy and some potential in the quantum field, that when there's a match, you start seeing those synchronicities, you synchronize your energy to that possibility.

• 1:07:08Joe Dispenza?

  And, and so you start seeing the coincidences and the synchronicities and the opportunities. I'm not talking about a parking space, I'm talking about like real life events. Yes. This is a critical moment for people, because I think people don't realize how powerful they really are. When that event happens in their life, they will look back at every single betrayer, everything that happened in their past, and they won't care, they won't care any longer. That's the moment their past no longer exists, because they're proving to themselves what they innately already know that they may have forgotten. Which is what? That is that the creator of their life. And when you have that synchronicity, you are humbled. By the truth and you feel this sense of greatness, like real greatness, like I am honored

• 1:07:53Joe Dispenza?

  to be human, I'm honored to be alive, I'm honored that I actually created, it's not the, it's not the wealth, you're gonna ask anybody in our community, it's not the health, it's who you became. And, and people think they want this or they want that, but I'm telling you what they want is wholeness. Yes. And you have wholeness that you no longer want, how could you want when you're whole? Game change is really amazing, and so the closer we get to Source, and that's our work, how deep can you go, and we teach people how to go as deep as they can, there's a brainwave state that takes place, that I can predict, when we see it, I know the person's gonna have a big moment. In fact, we can predict it, we can replicate it, um, and we can induce it.

• 1:08:35Joe Dispenza?

  And the person goes into these really slow theta brainwave states, and that's when they're in a hypnotic state, they're very suggestible to information. And they're in coherent theta, and when they move outside of normal, we know the next moment is they're gonna hook up, and the brain's gonna go into gamma, and they're gonna feel a whole lot of love, not a little love, like a lot of love, and it's gonna be an arousal, and it's gonna be ecstasy, it's gonna be bliss. To them, they're having, they're, they're seeing their, the unknown self, the ninety-nine point nine-nine percent of reality that we're unaware of, and don't exclude yourself from that. And so the person has a moment in the unknown, and a profound mystical moment, or understanding, or a download, or a connection to Source, or a healing, or something that takes place,

• 1:09:19Joe Dispenza?

  it took a bite of wholeness, it took a bite of it, right? They became more whole. And when you're more whole, you don't need as much. That's right. And when you're not, you don't need as much, you're really cool to be around, like it's really easy to be around you. In fact, if you're so whole that you feel so abundant, that the only thing you wanna do is give, we have people in this work that have created millions of dollars, and they're, they're giving it away, and the more they give it away, the more money they keep getting. That's the experiment for them, that's their experiment. They're trying that out as an experiment. Why? Because an abundant person would never hold on to anything, they have more than they need.

• 1:09:56Joe Dispenza?

  The side effect of creating from the field instead of from matter shortens the distance between the thought of what we want and the experience of having it. And that takes means there's less time and the greater frequency, the closer we are to source, the less separation is two points of consciousness, it means there's less time, it should happen in a shorter amount of time in three dimensional reality. In that event, it's none of your business when it's going to happen or how it's going to happen. Because the moment you try to predict it, you're back to Newtonian model of reality. You're wanting and needing again. You're laying a known over the unknown. And the consciousness that lives within us, that source says, I honor free will, go for it, do it your way. Yes. And so we have to lay down the very thing we used our whole life to get what we

• 1:10:40Joe Dispenza?

  want for something greater to occur. And that's not an easy thing. Well, man. Because it's such, there's such a propensity to jump in there and do, right? I know. Control it or force it. And so we control, we force, we predict, we fight for it, we manipulate, we cheat, we lie, we steal. We do everything when we're matter, trying to change matter to take away that lack or separation. But if there's an alternative way to do that, to shorten the distance between one point of consciousness and another point, between cause and effect, and you start believing that you're the creator of your reality, you stop trying so hard. You start, and people in this work, I think that the excitement for me, and what I'm proud of in terms of our community is that they do the work.

• 1:11:24Joe Dispenza?

  Not because they have to, or they want to please God, or do the right thing, it's not that. They don't want the magic to end in their life. They don't want it to end. It's not like, oh geez, I gotta go create my life. It's kind of like, so I, someone sent me a text just yesterday, a very, very, very wealthy, very successful person, and he said to me, I need to take a break from creating. Like, I'm gonna take a break. Is that okay? Is it okay? Like, his whole life has just gotten super beautiful, and he's so alive again, all these wonderful things happen. He said, I almost, I almost don't feel worthy. I don't, almost don't feel worthy, there's so many great things. You know how many times you showed up for yourself? You aren't worthy, that's why it's happening. Yes.

• 1:12:08Joe Dispenza?

  You aren't worthy, you showed up, man. If you don't show up, you don't believe you're a creator.

• 1:12:14Joe Dispenza?

  You show up, it means you do believe. And so many people, as I said, they may say, well, I think this stuff works, but I don't know if it works for me. This is a big moment because if you don't show up, then you don't believe it's possible. But if you show up, you still believe it's possible. So showing up for yourself every day, investing in yourself is investing in your future. And people say to me, well, I did it for two weeks and nothing happened. And I always say to them, you're not that good. Like, I don't know what else to tell you. It's not like it doesn't work for you. It's just like, learn a little bit more knowledge, understand what you're doing. Your health condition isn't changing. Okay, your relationship, you want a relationship?

• 1:12:55Joe Dispenza?

  And you want a relationship and love and you're living the three quarters of your day in fear? You think you're gonna attract love? You gotta be able to feel that feeling instead of fear. And when it's the hardest, it matters the most. Then you're worthy. Right. You're worthy of love. You are worthy. When you get to that point where you're worthy of love, it's not like entitlement, like, I'm worthy of love. That's not how that works. You are worthy of it. You're so worthy of it, you're okay without anybody. That's when it gets really good. That's powerful. When you don't need it. Because you don't, you don't need anything. Because you feel whole. Exactly. Now, I call that the natural state of being. That's why we practice so much, relaxed in the heart and awaken the brain,

• 1:13:36Joe Dispenza?

  because there are so many biological changes, neurological, genetic changes that take place in that present moment. So many wonderful changes. So the person who wants the wealth, the person who wants the relationship, they can't be saying, or the health, they can't be saying, well, how come I'm not healed? The person who's in the process of healing would never say that. That's the old self. Right. That says, how come I don't have a new relationship? Well, figure it out. Like, two weeks went by and were you spending the rest of your day in fear and in lack? Were you hating yourself and hating your life? What do you think? You think you're worthy of love at this point? You're not gonna be happy. No one's gonna make you happy until you make you happy.

• 1:14:21Lewis Howes?

  That's true.

• 1:14:22Joe Dispenza?

  And that changes everything. You find that person and they're happy for no reason. You gotta, and not just happy like always happy, but a sensibility that they can manage themselves and manage their emotions and manage their attention in such a way that's admirable. Like you're inspired by that person. Your relationship, the person that you're with is an inspiration to you. Like wow, I'm inspired by this person. I'm moved by this person. I wanna, I wanna show up for this person. I wanna give as much as they give in this relationship. I wanna, I wanna care as much as they care. I wanna be as kind as they are. I wanna see when everybody else reacts, this person doesn't react. Something is cool about that person.

• 1:15:04Joe Dispenza?

  That's, that gives the person or the people that we're in relationship, permission to show up differently. And that's, that's when it becomes infectious. That's when it becomes wonderful.

• 1:15:16Lewis Howes?

  I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness. Make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's episode with all the important links. And if you want weekly exclusive bonus episodes with me personally, as well as ad-free listening, then make sure to subscribe to our Greatness Plus channel exclusively on Apple Podcasts. Share this with a friend on social media and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts as well. Let me know what you enjoyed about this episode in that review. I really love hearing feedback from you and it helps us figure out how we can support and serve you moving forward. And I wanna remind you, if no one has told you lately, that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter.

• 1:16:00Lewis Howes?

  And now it's time to go out there and do something great.