25 Year Old Mindset + Being in a Gallery for 30 Minutes

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• 0:00Speaker 00

  The following podcast is a Dear Media production. The following podcast is a Dear Media production.

• 0:19Mary Beth Barone?

  Hey, can you come pick me up? Yeah, what's wrong? Nothing. Are you sure? Yeah, no, I just need a ride. Ride, ride. Oh, my God. So what? I just want to have fun. Start your engine. Tighter.

• 0:30Benito Skinner?

  I'm Benito Skinner.

• 0:31Mary Beth Barone?

  I'm Mary Beth Brown.

• 0:33Benito Skinner?

  And this.

• 0:33Mary Beth Barone?

  Is.

• 0:34Benito Skinner?

  Ride.

• 0:38Mary Beth Barone?

  Are we rolling? Can I just say?

• 0:41Speaker 03

  Isn't anybody going to notice my purse?

• 0:46Mary Beth Barone?

  Go. No way.

• 0:49Benito Skinner?

  Was that what you were gonna say?

• 0:50Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 0:51Benito Skinner?

  Sorry, now I only hear you in one ear. Keep all this.

• 0:54Mary Beth Barone?

  I was gonna say, we started early today, which is the first time ever in the history of Ride. It's 4:59, right after dark.

• 1:01Benito Skinner?

  Oh, pitch black outside. As I walked here, I thought, I'm gonna be on time. I wonder if there will be a full crowd applauding when I arrive.

• 1:11Mary Beth Barone?

  I wanted to. I brought you a treat, not even knowing that you were gonna be early, so.

• 1:15Benito Skinner?

  She brought me a sparkler. Sparkler, you guys. If one of these is on the table, I'm on my back.

• 1:21Mary Beth Barone?

  God's dead, by the way. Let's talk about that.

• 1:25Benito Skinner?

  How do we not start with that? This season is insane.

• 1:28Mary Beth Barone?

  I know.

• 1:29Benito Skinner?

  I actually think like, it's a time capsule. We should never listen to it again.

• 1:33Mary Beth Barone?

  I don't think so, yeah.

• 1:35Benito Skinner?

  It's hard, though, as a fan of you, because I'm fan first.

• 1:37Mary Beth Barone?

  Well, yeah. As am I, by the way.

• 1:39Benito Skinner?

  Thank you. Thank you. It's hard to not go back and, because I keep thinking, I'm like, what are the funny things she says? The TikTok has made that so easy. And again. These are these dynamic things I bring up, these real fucking zingers. I find that I actually have nothing to say as I'm in the writer's room.

• 1:59Mary Beth Barone?

  That's not, oh, oh, I see what you mean because you're in the writer's room. Also, I have a little cold right now. I think it's allergies. It might be a cold, but I'm like a week into it. So I'm not contagious. I'm just gonna say that. But it is why I sound like this. So at one point you turned to me, I don't know what it was born in reaction to, but you said, God's dead. You said, God's dead, by the way, and I didn't hear you.

• 2:19Benito Skinner?

  I'll tell you after what it's about.

• 2:20Mary Beth Barone?

  So I said, who? And you went, God. And I went, oh.

• 2:24Benito Skinner?

  Oh, and then we both went back down into our phones.

• 2:27Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah. God said, by the way.

• 2:29Benito Skinner?

  Who?

• 2:29Mary Beth Barone?

  God.

• 2:30Benito Skinner?

  Oh.

• 2:31Mary Beth Barone?

  And then we move on.

• 2:32Benito Skinner?

  Oh, okay.

• 2:33Mary Beth Barone?

  Who's Madeline?

• 2:35Benito Skinner?

  Who's Madeline? So obviously I have a new tic and it's consumed me in a way you can't even imagine. But I had this like really strange, like dystopic thing happen where Lily Allen's new album, yes, we're talking about it this season. Cause like anything, anything goes.

• 2:50Mary Beth Barone?

  Pervasive not to, I think.

• 2:52Benito Skinner?

  Agreed. It's consumed me too much. Like if I did, I'd be restricting myself and the podcast to a certain degree. I mean, come on.

• 2:58Mary Beth Barone?

  And me.

• 3:00Benito Skinner?

  I feel crazy today. Oh, we've just been, okay, I'll just tell, so.

• 3:06Mary Beth Barone?

  Oh, no, no, no. Can I start? I woke up this morning in Baltimore. I was in Baltimore, which by the way, I have a lot of love for Baltimore. My brother went to Leola, Maryland, then he lived there for many years.

• 3:18Benito Skinner?

  My aunt lives in Baltimore. Hello.

• 3:20Mary Beth Barone?

  Hello. And my good friend from high school, Ari, and her lovely husband, Sam, live there. So I actually was excited to go. I did have to do a show at Johns Hopkins, which college shows are so interesting. And actually, we're gonna cut that. I did a show at Johns Hopkins.

• 3:32Benito Skinner?

  Keep it.

• 3:33Mary Beth Barone?

  No. Okay, fine. So I woke up in Baltimore. I had to take the Asela to New York. I was on Zoom, on the writer's room, on the train, got in a cab, stayed in writer's room, picked up Pinky, went home, writer's room. Now we're here. And I have a date with my gay guys tonight. That's why I'm wearing this.

• 3:51Benito Skinner?

  I was about to say, what a sexy look for Lucian with two gay guys.

• 3:55Mary Beth Barone?

  Well, that's how.

• 3:57Benito Skinner?

  Have we talked about Jake Samus on the pod? Is this Jake Samus's debut?

• 4:00Mary Beth Barone?

  It might be Jake Samus's debut. So Jake is Benny Stylist, brilliant stylist.

• 4:05Benito Skinner?

  Stylist and just like total bestie.

• 4:07Mary Beth Barone?

  He only styles the hottest guys.

• 4:09Benito Skinner?

  Well, he's a darling of the pod and a darling of our lives.

• 4:11Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 4:12Benito Skinner?

  It's one of those things where if he's coming, I can tell you spark up a little bit.

• 4:16Mary Beth Barone?

  Well, I.

• 4:16Benito Skinner?

  He's one of those gay guys that's got you on attention, girl.

• 4:18Mary Beth Barone?

  I know. Well, the thing is with me is like, I fuck with 999 out of 1,000 gay guys.

• 4:24Benito Skinner?

  Mm hmm.

• 4:25Mary Beth Barone?

  It's not 99 out of 100. It's 999 out of 1,000.

• 4:29Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 4:30Mary Beth Barone?

  And he is just one that I fuck with, dude.

• 4:34Benito Skinner?

  I hate me too.

• 4:35Mary Beth Barone?

  I just met him and I knew immediately.

• 4:36Benito Skinner?

  Same.

• 4:37Mary Beth Barone?

  When he drove me to the Coachella party, the overcompensating Coachella party in his Land Rover, I thought, this is a man that's gonna be in my life forever.

• 4:45Benito Skinner?

  We had you in the backseat and we knew, we gotta pump this girl up.

• 4:48Mary Beth Barone?

  Mm hmm.

• 4:48Benito Skinner?

  We gotta.

• 4:50Mary Beth Barone?

  Invigorate.

• 4:51Benito Skinner?

  Set the tone in a lot of ways. We met when I was a little slutty football player for Vanity Fair. And he did that. That was all him.

• 4:58Mary Beth Barone?

  Whoa.

• 4:59Benito Skinner?

  Yeah. And he was like, we're doing the pads. And he was just incredible.

• 5:01Mary Beth Barone?

  He's got vision.

• 5:03Benito Skinner?

  He's got vision and we have to call that out. People are the kind Newman of it all. I got so many messages about.

• 5:09Mary Beth Barone?

  That's weird. I got none.

• 5:10Benito Skinner?

  Well, they knew who to come to.

• 5:11Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah, they do.

• 5:12Benito Skinner?

  So friendly fire, if you will. So. What? I still can make her laugh. Five hours of pitching you freaking college bullshit and you still laugh.

• 5:22Mary Beth Barone?

  What'd they say?

• 5:23Benito Skinner?

  Season two's so good. Sorry. Okay. It's so good. No, just people being like, you know, what's the backstory here? Like, we've never heard you guys talk about someone in this way.

• 5:31Mary Beth Barone?

  We gave the backstory.

• 5:32Benito Skinner?

  I gave it. I just, he's the best. And some of his friends were like, you're gassing him up too much.

• 5:36Mary Beth Barone?

  Ew.

• 5:38Benito Skinner?

  I'll tell you later.

• 5:39Mary Beth Barone?

  Okay.

• 5:41Benito Skinner?

  I love all this offline stuff. It must be so fun to listen to this.

• 5:45Mary Beth Barone?

  And watch it for that matter.

• 5:47Benito Skinner?

  Oh, wait, didn't we skip something?

• 5:48Mary Beth Barone?

  Well, you were gonna say, I think, what you did today, but then it felt like we got so far from that that I wasn't sure if you wanted to circle back.

• 5:54Benito Skinner?

  What I did today?

• 5:55Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah, you were gonna be like, we're in the writers' room all day and blah, blah, blah, blah.

• 5:57Benito Skinner?

  Oh, if you're curious, I feel like we keep talking writers' room and it's like, you know, if you're gonna talk about the industry in that way, explain it.

• 6:04Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah, what is a writers' room?

• 6:06Benito Skinner?

  Everyone's asking. It's the question on everyone's lips at the CFDA Awards. But yeah, it's essentially just like you go on Zoom for five hours and pitch things for episodes and we're three episodes in.

• 6:19Mary Beth Barone?

  And it's been so fun.

• 6:20Benito Skinner?

  It's so much fun. I love this goddamn program. The most fun is knowing the actress playing the parts now. Like, the first season, we just didn't know that, that you weren't even cast. Fuck, I wasn't even cast. Let's be real.

• 6:31Mary Beth Barone?

  Let's be real.

• 6:32Benito Skinner?

  So now, knowing that we have to do it is both scary and so fun. And I've been training for the thing I'm doing in the season and it's like, I'm electrified.

• 6:41Mary Beth Barone?

  It's fun. Well, I also wanna say, and this gets into my ride a little bit, but I did want to just say, congratulations on moving to New York at the best possible time, which is when we have elected Zara and Mom Donnie to be our mayor. It's a new era alert.

• 6:55Benito Skinner?

  The day after I got here, I moved on my birthday.

• 6:57Mary Beth Barone?

  I know, and I was at the party, the results party, and it was kinda funny because like they announced he won before everybody got inside because it was so obvious. So it was, I mean, it was a fabulous evening, but it was just kinda funny, like, because it was like, oh, yeah.

• 7:12Benito Skinner?

  More of like a birthday party than like a ball drop.

• 7:15Mary Beth Barone?

  Exactly. Oh, my God, that's so true. It was way more of a birthday party than a New Year's Eve party. But I am so proud of everyone who got involved and got educated.

• 7:22Benito Skinner?

  I'm proud of you. Can I just, me and everyone here at Melrose Podcast Studios on Avenue B are so happy. No, you're incredible and you really brought him in front of so many people. And I know maybe you won't accept those flowers, but you should. You were wearing Vitera Hoffs with him on stage at the Bell House.

• 7:37Mary Beth Barone?

  I was wearing gloves.

• 7:38Benito Skinner?

  You wore evening gloves, my darling. And I just think he's incredible and New York City, what an amazing time to be here. I feel so lucky.

• 7:45Mary Beth Barone?

  And I'm starting a new movement. So you know, okay, here's the thing, like, there's a lot of like- Old ideologies that we can modernize, but we just have to make them. We have to put it in a language that people today can understand.

• 7:55Benito Skinner?

  Of course.

• 7:55Mary Beth Barone?

  There's this idea of champagne socialism. And I'm starting a new movement, which is called Dior Bag Socialism, which I have spoken about. And I feel like people really latched on to this idea of being a socialist with a Dior bag. So if you identify with that, you are a Dior Bag Socialist. And it's like, as long as you'd be willing to give it up to help someone in need, you can call yourself a socialist.

• 8:16Benito Skinner?

  Here's the thing. What word do I say on here the most? Is that duality?

• 8:20Mary Beth Barone?

  It's duality.

• 8:21Benito Skinner?

  Me in the writers' room, duality.

• 8:23Mary Beth Barone?

  It's duality.

• 8:23Benito Skinner?

  But it is, it's duality.

• 8:25Mary Beth Barone?

  And I'm just excited.

• 8:26Benito Skinner?

  Not just one thing, darling.

• 8:27Mary Beth Barone?

  I'm not just one thing. And there's a lot of, I think, I'm excited for these ideas to spread. And I think New York is going to be an even better place to live, which like, I didn't know was possible. I've been here for 13 years and it's just been not a bad day.

• 8:40Benito Skinner?

  13 years?

• 8:41Mary Beth Barone?

  Not one bad day. I dropped out of college when I moved here.

• 8:43Benito Skinner?

  That's so cool.

• 8:44Mary Beth Barone?

  So it's almost 14 years, actually. We're coming up on 14 years.

• 8:47Benito Skinner?

  Wow.

• 8:47Mary Beth Barone?

  And it hasn't broken me yet.

• 8:49Benito Skinner?

  Someone asked how many years we've been friends and I actually didn't know what to say at that point. Is it seven?

• 8:54Mary Beth Barone?

  We're coming up on seven, but it's one of those things where it's like, I guess I just think of myself as always having known you.

• 8:59Benito Skinner?

  Hey, I met you in every life.

• 9:00Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah, no.

• 9:01Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 9:02Mary Beth Barone?

  What's the thing from past lives?

• 9:04Benito Skinner?

  That.

• 9:04Mary Beth Barone?

  I think there is something special, as you mentioned with watching someone vape and seeing them naked. There's something really interesting to me about watching a barista

• 9:15Mary Beth Barone?

  squash the dirt, the matcha dirt, with a kabuki brush.

• 9:18Benito Skinner?

  Oh, the matcha, I thought you meant the espresso when they pop, pop.

• 9:21Mary Beth Barone?

  No.

• 9:22Benito Skinner?

  And then they unhinge it.

• 9:23Mary Beth Barone?

  It's matcha, it's earth that they grind to make matcha.

• 9:27Benito Skinner?

  Ceremony.

• 9:27Mary Beth Barone?

  And they do this with a kabuki brush.

• 9:29Benito Skinner?

  Ceremony, ceremony. It's ceremonial, it's ceremony.

• 9:32Mary Beth Barone?

  It's ceremony, it's sort of adjacent to watching them make guacamole at the table, but it feels wrong for some reason.

• 9:37Benito Skinner?

  Sorry, you can't say guacamole at the table without me thinking of it just like that.

• 9:41Mary Beth Barone?

  Well, I know. And I said that on purpose.

• 9:44Benito Skinner?

  That being like a thing, restaurants, I think it's cool to do whatever you gotta do. But sometimes those interactive things, I just sit there and I don't know where to put my eyes. So what do you want me to do?

• 9:53Mary Beth Barone?

  There's nothing you can do.

• 9:54Benito Skinner?

  I just.

• 9:55Mary Beth Barone?

  Have you heard of surrendering? It's that.

• 9:58Benito Skinner?

  No. Can I just say, I actually haven't heard about that.

• 10:01Mary Beth Barone?

  Wait, I'm telling you right now.

• 10:02Benito Skinner?

  Wait, what's it like?

• 10:03Mary Beth Barone?

  It's something you could try.

• 10:05Benito Skinner?

  I've been working with a trainer here, shout out Michael. Sorry, JR. It's really hard. That's the first time I've done that.

• 10:11Mary Beth Barone?

  I'm not amplifying. I'm saying nothing.

• 10:13Benito Skinner?

  And he asked me a question today. He's like, do you ever not do something in a really intense way? And I thought, no.

• 10:21Mary Beth Barone?

  No. No.

• 10:24Benito Skinner?

  Yeah. And then I slammed my head against the mirror.

• 10:27Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 10:27Benito Skinner?

  Yeah. That's it.

• 10:30Mary Beth Barone?

  I wanted to follow up on being a Pepsi family because my mom did something that was so cute.

• 10:34Benito Skinner?

  What'd she do?

• 10:35Mary Beth Barone?

  So Vicky, my sister, saw my mom come in with Coca-Cola, Diet Coca-Cola. And my sister was like, oh, why not Pepsi? And my mom said, they ended their DEI initiatives. So I'm not buying Pepsi anymore. And then my mom was like, and now Coca-Cola, I think, like donated to Trump's inauguration or something adjacent to that.

• 10:54Benito Skinner?

  Okay.

• 10:54Mary Beth Barone?

  And my sister just said to my mom, I think you can keep buying Pepsi. I think it's okay.

• 10:59Benito Skinner?

  Pepsi's Pepsi.

• 11:00Mary Beth Barone?

  But thank you. But like, what a beautiful gesture to be like, I'm gonna give up this lifelong love of Pepsi because of their abandoning DEI.

• 11:08Benito Skinner?

  And she's gacking down an Ollie Pop in the backyard.

• 11:11Mary Beth Barone?

  Oh, God. Ginger lemon Ollie Pop. We're like, Mom, you don't have to do this.

• 11:15Benito Skinner?

  Hey, hey, you don't have to do this.

• 11:16Mary Beth Barone?

  You don't have to do this. My mom's so funny. She texts me on election. She's so tapped into the culture, but this text exchange cracked me up. She goes, are you at an election party? I said, I will be in 40 minutes. She said, well, the opposition was so desperate today that they were flooding Insta with the most outrageous stuff. And I said, oh, my God, like what? And then she goes, he's not what you think. Supported a terrorist and shit like that. They knew they were in trouble.

• 11:43Benito Skinner?

  She's got this sass. She's a spunky little naughty girl.

• 11:48Mary Beth Barone?

  She's crass, she's blunt, and she is unapologetic.

• 11:51Benito Skinner?

  She's my favorite woman. Jesus Christ. They don't make them like that anymore.

• 11:55Mary Beth Barone?

  They really don't.

• 11:56Benito Skinner?

  I wish they fucking would.

• 11:57Mary Beth Barone?

  I know. I'm as close as we're gonna get.

• 12:00Benito Skinner?

  I know. And hey, we're pretty happy.

• 12:02Mary Beth Barone?

  I'm trying.

• 12:03Benito Skinner?

  So I just want to talk about this great date night we had.

• 12:06Mary Beth Barone?

  That's a CFTA.

• 12:07Benito Skinner?

  CFTA works.

• 12:08Mary Beth Barone?

  CFTA. Thank you for having us. What an insane event. Insane parentheses complimentary.

• 12:14Benito Skinner?

  It just felt like, so I had just arrived in New York. It was my 36th. Birthday? I literally thought I was thirty-three for a second. I'm thirty-two, right?

• 12:22Mary Beth Barone?

  You're thirty-two. I'm thirty-four.

• 12:23Benito Skinner?

  Cool. Okay, I just wanted to check. And to just get to do a carpet with your best friend, but I-

• 12:29Mary Beth Barone?

  The press line with your best friend.

• 12:30Benito Skinner?

  The press line, that, a long press line.

• 12:32Mary Beth Barone?

  It was long. It was lengthy.

• 12:34Benito Skinner?

  I will say, I had no idea that Mary-Kate and Ashley were gonna be there. And so, for that to happen, I've had people ask, like, what were they like? And so lovely, but it was like two seconds, but it was really, they were led the wrong way. Not by me, but not not by me, I think in a lot of ways. And I just said, like, you trusted a gay guy, I don't know what to tell you, and I got a little giggle.

• 12:54Mary Beth Barone?

  Oh, wow. That means the world. To see you on a stage together meant everything to me. I hope you know that.

• 13:00Benito Skinner?

  Well, I told them, I said, I'll spend anything on the row. I don't really give a fuck. And they giggled, so I got a few giggles, actually. I was kinda doing bits for them.

• 13:07Mary Beth Barone?

  You did like a type five.

• 13:08Benito Skinner?

  No, of course, I might tour it.

• 13:09Mary Beth Barone?

  I love that. I mean, there's images of you together.

• 13:12Benito Skinner?

  It's so weird.

• 13:13Mary Beth Barone?

  Incredible.

• 13:13Benito Skinner?

  God, I've never felt like, just more like a fucking linebacker.

• 13:17Mary Beth Barone?

  It looks like they like, it's Photoshop. I hate when people say it's Photoshop.

• 13:20Benito Skinner?

  Yeah. I felt kind of like a security guard when we were walking, though, because I've never seen more phones and more people stare. Like, they really are just-

• 13:27Mary Beth Barone?

  Well, because they don't step out that much.

• 13:28Benito Skinner?

  No, which, how, it's so fabulous. It's so, the mystery, the-

• 13:32Mary Beth Barone?

  To have that reputation, reputation.

• 13:35Benito Skinner?

  The sweats.

• 13:35Mary Beth Barone?

  I know.

• 13:36Benito Skinner?

  No, it was, it was truly, it was a magical night because I got to be in New York with my bestie at the National History Museum, and it does get into my ride.

• 13:43Mary Beth Barone?

  And then you came over and you hung out with Pinky for a minute.

• 13:47Benito Skinner?

  Well, it was my birthday, and all I wanted to do was eat cereal with Pinky in bed. Got my wish, pretty easy. I'm a simple man.

• 13:53Mary Beth Barone?

  You are a simple man, and I've always said that. He wants for nothing.

• 13:56Benito Skinner?

  Wanted to know something kind of sad, though?

• 13:58Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 13:58Benito Skinner?

  I didn't get any gifts. I haven't gotten a single gift for my birthday.

• 14:03Mary Beth Barone?

  Well, I was working on one that unfortunately did not pan out.

• 14:05Benito Skinner?

  I know, it was very sweet.

• 14:06Mary Beth Barone?

  It's hard, and I've said this before.

• 14:09Benito Skinner?

  Hey, can I just say, I'm not shouting out, but this is what happens-

• 14:11Mary Beth Barone?

  I know, but can I say something? No, let me say it first.

• 14:13Benito Skinner?

  If anyone likes the, the joy of opening a present, don't do a podcast episode where you say you don't care about your birthday, because, okay, I don't care, but like, you know, I'd love a top.

• 14:24Mary Beth Barone?

  I bought you a photo on Getty Images.

• 14:27Benito Skinner?

  Oh my god.

• 14:28Mary Beth Barone?

  First of all, don't make me come up with receipts. Two, you are literally the man that has everything. So I'm just like, I don't know what to get you at this point. Like a shirt. And I, I, I, I will do, I will do off season, as you know, that's more my vibe, but.

• 14:42Benito Skinner?

  I want you to know, I want you to know this. I'm a grown man. I don't actually need a gift. I just thought it was funny because I was like, oh, like you really do get to that part in adulthood where it's like, oh shit, I kind of just like.

• 14:53Mary Beth Barone?

  When you're single.

• 14:54Benito Skinner?

  Oh, yeah.

• 14:56Mary Beth Barone?

  L.

• 14:56Benito Skinner?

  Aye.

• 14:58Mary Beth Barone?

  God said, by the way.

• 15:00Benito Skinner?

  Who?

• 15:01Mary Beth Barone?

  God.

• 15:02Benito Skinner?

  Oh.

• 15:02Mary Beth Barone?

  Oh.

• 15:02Benito Skinner?

  No, I got, you know what? I did get a present. I got to spend an amazing night with my bestie in a suit.

• 15:08Mary Beth Barone?

  In midtown in a lot of ways.

• 15:09Benito Skinner?

  With the schlacked hair, I felt like a little sex pot, next to a sex pot.

• 15:12Mary Beth Barone?

  It was an awesome night. So we decided to give my nieces the weekend off and Benny is here to do ads with me. And guess what we're starting with? It might be called Third Love, but it's the first ad of the week.

• 15:24Benito Skinner?

  Third Love. I got this Third Love.

• 15:27Mary Beth Barone?

  Third Love makes better bras, period.

• 15:29Benito Skinner?

  I knew you'd laugh at that randomly.

• 15:32Mary Beth Barone?

  Founded by women who were sick of settling for bras that were good enough. Let's talk about it.

• 15:37Benito Skinner?

  10 plus years of redefining what a comfortable bra looks and feels like. Made to solve fit issues that many of you face, my love.

• 15:45Mary Beth Barone?

  Well, not me because of my flat chest.

• 15:46Benito Skinner?

  Well, of course.

• 15:47Mary Beth Barone?

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• 15:48Benito Skinner?

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• 15:52Mary Beth Barone?

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• 15:53Benito Skinner?

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• 15:55Mary Beth Barone?

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• 16:31Benito Skinner?

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• 16:50Benito Skinner?

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• 16:52Mary Beth Barone?

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• 16:56Benito Skinner?

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• 16:57Mary Beth Barone?

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• 17:07Benito Skinner?

  Netflix has more than 18,000 titles globally, but only like 7,000 of those are available in the US.

• 17:13Mary Beth Barone?

  And to just say specifically too, HBO is not available in other countries. So do you know what I have to do to watch my favorite shows?

• 17:20Benito Skinner?

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• 17:21Mary Beth Barone?

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• 17:24Benito Skinner?

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• 17:25Mary Beth Barone?

  It's ExpressVPN.

• 17:26Benito Skinner?

  You have to say you're in Utah.

• 17:26Mary Beth Barone?

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• 17:37Benito Skinner?

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• 17:38Mary Beth Barone?

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• 17:39Benito Skinner?

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• 17:41Mary Beth Barone?

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• 17:41Benito Skinner?

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• 17:43Mary Beth Barone?

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• 17:44Benito Skinner?

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• 17:48Mary Beth Barone?

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• 17:49Benito Skinner?

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• 17:55Benito Skinner?

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• 18:03Mary Beth Barone?

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• 18:04Benito Skinner?

  Good luck finding me, motherfucker.

• 18:05Mary Beth Barone?

  Inside the house! ExpressVPN also keeps you private and secure by routing all of your traffic through an encrypted tunnel. So yeah, I've watched a lot of HBO programming when I'm in other countries. I mean, I dated a British guy for goodness sakes and you think I'm not trying to watch Entourage? I am.

• 18:21Benito Skinner?

  I am. She has to. It makes her think of home.

• 18:24Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 18:25Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, and LA, her favorite place.

• 18:27Mary Beth Barone?

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• 18:50Benito Skinner?

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• 18:51Mary Beth Barone?

  Mm-hmm. Have you heard of Goldbelly? Have you heard of Goldbelly?

• 18:55Benito Skinner?

  No.

• 18:55Mary Beth Barone?

  Because I've used it before.

• 18:56Benito Skinner?

  Tell me more.

• 18:56Mary Beth Barone?

  It's this amazing site that I order from all the time.

• 18:58Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 18:59Mary Beth Barone?

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• 19:14Benito Skinner?

  Goldbelly can ship smoked turkey from Salt Lick BBQ in Texas, savory sides like lobster mac and cheese straight from Maine, and legendary desserts like the three-in-one Pie Caken. Who put Pie Caken in this? Because you know that's gonna stick with me.

• 19:29Mary Beth Barone?

  And how did you know Benny was gonna read that?

• 19:30Benito Skinner?

  How'd you know Pie Caken was gonna be put in front of me? To make hosting a breeze. And they make beautiful holiday gifts you can send to anyone across the country, like La D'Art, macarons, New York's famous Junior's Cheesecake, and more. Send me all of this, by the way.

• 19:45Mary Beth Barone?

  All of it, please. We need a wish list on Goldbelly for Benny Drama.

• 19:48Benito Skinner?

  No, I wanna be Maria and then all arriving at your new apartment. Yeah, this holiday season.

• 19:51Mary Beth Barone?

  I once ordered from Issa Bagel to Connecticut, and it came, and it had like, you know, the packaging required to keep the food fresh.

• 19:59Benito Skinner?

  I love that.

• 20:00Mary Beth Barone?

  The quality of the food, fabulous, ease of shipping, I mean, yeah.

• 20:03Benito Skinner?

  Duh, it came.

• 20:04Mary Beth Barone?

  I would say if there's anything you're skeptical about with ordering Goldbelly, just let it go.

• 20:08Benito Skinner?

  Don't, sweetie, just like, hey, take a deep breath, let it rip, and just like, you got a Goldbelly down.

• 20:13Mary Beth Barone?

  Goldbelly down.

• 20:14Benito Skinner?

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• 20:32Mary Beth Barone?

  Goldbelly.

• 20:34Benito Skinner?

  It's so fun talking to someone with you, knowing we're thinking all the same exact things.

• 20:39Mary Beth Barone?

  Yes.

• 20:40Benito Skinner?

  And that is like, what could be better than that? Like, someone says something, and I just think, that man just said he doesn't trust female pilots. And I get to talk about that in the car with Mary Beth in...

• 20:51Mary Beth Barone?

  A gay guy, for what it's worth. Not a straight guy.

• 20:54Benito Skinner?

  And I thought, what, 20 minutes left? And I get to talk about this in the car with you?

• 20:57Mary Beth Barone?

  I go, what do you know about it?

• 20:58Benito Skinner?

  Yeah. I just thought, what led you to that statement to me here?

• 21:04Mary Beth Barone?

  But also, I do want to say I learned a lot that night. I knew going into it, wearing satin was going to be a risk.

• 21:10Benito Skinner?

  Of course.

• 21:11Mary Beth Barone?

  And I knew the wrinkle, big wrinkle potential. And yes, that did happen. But you know what? Sometimes you just have to wear the peach satin dress and just own it.

• 21:20Benito Skinner?

  Wear, wear the Alberta Furedi.

• 21:22Mary Beth Barone?

  Wear the Alberta Furedi.

• 21:24Benito Skinner?

  Okay.

• 21:24Mary Beth Barone?

  Wear it, please. Dust it off.

• 21:26Benito Skinner?

  I thought it was a choice. You know what? I have to say, everyone is so up everyone's booty cheeks about wrinkles. And it's like, I'm wearing the clothes. Like, I'm sitting in a car. I'm, I'm moving.

• 21:38Mary Beth Barone?

  It's wearable art.

• 21:40Benito Skinner?

  I'm on a lime. It's wearable art.

• 21:41Mary Beth Barone?

  The Roberto Cavalli that I work for Seth Meyers, that I got so much flack.

• 21:45Benito Skinner?

  It was like that on the runway.

• 21:46Mary Beth Barone?

  Before you come for me, check the runway image. Please, just do your research.

• 21:51Benito Skinner?

  Let me point you to a little site called WWD.

• 21:54Mary Beth Barone?

  WWD. And yeah, you need to subscribe, honey.

• 21:57Benito Skinner?

  Flip through the buck.

• 21:58Mary Beth Barone?

  Please.

• 21:59Benito Skinner?

  Yeah. You have bangers lately. Like, I just get to just...

• 22:03Mary Beth Barone?

  Well, these are all the thoughts that if I was gonna, I guess, write a book, or if I had Twitter, I don't know. Either one of those two things.

• 22:09Benito Skinner?

  Hey, put them in the show.

• 22:10Mary Beth Barone?

  And I will.

• 22:11Benito Skinner?

  That's me. I can't even... Yeah, I have no original thoughts. It's only via the show.

• 22:15Mary Beth Barone?

  Right. And my, and stand-up and all that shit.

• 22:18Benito Skinner?

  Well, yours goes into stand-up, which is amazing. I haven't thought of a stand-up bit in like, well, except my incredible bits I did for the Olsen.

• 22:26Mary Beth Barone?

  For Mary-Kate Nashley.

• 22:27Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, never mind.

• 22:28Mary Beth Barone?

  When men tell me they listen to Audrey Hobart, I'm like, are you hearing what she's saying? Are you internalizing the words?

• 22:34Benito Skinner?

  You say you're listening, but are you listening?

• 22:37Mary Beth Barone?

  Are you hearing?

• 22:38Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 22:39Mary Beth Barone?

  Because I feel like if you were, you might act different.

• 22:43Benito Skinner?

  Oh, that just reminded me, my story of Lily Allen, the dystopic story.

• 22:47Mary Beth Barone?

  Oh my god, yeah.

• 22:47Benito Skinner?

  Just stick around, you guys. We'll always come back to you.

• 22:50Mary Beth Barone?

  Where did we even go from there?

• 22:51Benito Skinner?

  I don't even know where we are.

• 22:53Mary Beth Barone?

  I don't know. We're at the Geneva Convention. We're in Geneva.

• 22:56Benito Skinner?

  You guys, this might just be the set, by the way.

• 22:58Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah. I think we found our permanent home. Now that we're no longer two vagabonds. Although, we will be in London soon, and we will be back in the library.

• 23:05Benito Skinner?

  I cannot wait to be back in that library.

• 23:07Mary Beth Barone?

  At BeforeTheLightsUK.

• 23:11Benito Skinner?

  Incredible. Oh, I'm pumping iron there.

• 23:13Mary Beth Barone?

  And as am I.

• 23:14Benito Skinner?

  It's really hard to communicate your voice via text sometimes. Do you find that?

• 23:18Mary Beth Barone?

  Well, of course.

• 23:19Benito Skinner?

  Lily Allen coming soon.

• 23:20Mary Beth Barone?

  Well, of course.

• 23:20Benito Skinner?

  This is my commercial for it. It's coming in a sec.

• 23:22Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 23:22Benito Skinner?

  But I just, I kinda go too, too hard, too fast sometimes.

• 23:26Mary Beth Barone?

  No. Well, you mean with Josh?

• 23:29Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, was I a little too intense?

• 23:30Mary Beth Barone?

  No, I liked it.

• 23:31Benito Skinner?

  I just said, I want an ass kicking.

• 23:33Mary Beth Barone?

  Cause I'm in every text, every text conversation you're in, I'm also in. Every text you have is a group chat. I was thinking of all the things we share. Trainer.

• 23:42Benito Skinner?

  Manager.

• 23:42Mary Beth Barone?

  Manager, Realtor. There was more. Now we should.

• 23:46Benito Skinner?

  You gave me the best Realtor in the world because the first thing you asked me was, "I'm a lamb, what are you?" And I said, "I'm a monster." And then that was it. I was like, okay, I'm in. And then I said, and then we sang "Migrate" to each other.

• 23:57Mary Beth Barone?

  Wow.

• 23:58Benito Skinner?

  Locked in. I said, "Oh, family."

• 24:00Mary Beth Barone?

  Speaking of a gay guy that I'm gonna know for the rest of my life.

• 24:03Benito Skinner?

  Oh, Philip Salo, my love.

• 24:05Mary Beth Barone?

  So Lily Allen.

• 24:06Benito Skinner?

  So Lily Allen. So I love this album. Also, I've been a Lily head for so long.

• 24:10Mary Beth Barone?

  Me too. Oh, my God. Riding through the city with my bike all day because the Phil took away my license. That's from her first, I think, first album, LDN.

• 24:27Benito Skinner?

  And also I loved "Come On Then," the last like album she had. I loved that song. I thought that was a great album. It was like in 2018. So this album, so I'm listening to it on this flight because I cannot sleep. It's a red eye. I'm a buzz. You know, I've left LA. It's very sad.

• 24:41Mary Beth Barone?

  When you're moving to New York. Welcome to New York. New York. It's been waiting for you. Welcome to New York. Welcome to New York.

• 24:49Benito Skinner?

  It's the sound of, I could see this. Remember when Taylor Swift said, "Bodegas are your friends"?

• 24:55Mary Beth Barone?

  Well, remember when she was the tourism ambassador to New York? That's just a dream. That's a dream that I have.

• 24:59Benito Skinner?

  I think they've got a new one here.

• 25:01Mary Beth Barone?

  We should be.

• 25:03Benito Skinner?

  I know. Wait, you guys.

• 25:04Mary Beth Barone?

  Who gets to pick that?

• 25:04Benito Skinner?

  Something massive might be happening so soon with me and Mary Beth. I'm not saying it's like we've met the final boss, but if this goes through, and I can't stress enough, you'll know it when you see it.

• 25:18Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 25:19Benito Skinner?

  It'll be early morning, but you'll know it when you see it.

• 25:21Mary Beth Barone?

  You'll know it.

• 25:23Benito Skinner?

  I need it to happen. It's consumed me.

• 25:26Mary Beth Barone?

  So you're listening to Lily Allen on this flight.

• 25:28Benito Skinner?

  So I'm listening to Lily Allen on this flight and when I get off. This woman is struggling to get a massive bag. And then I just pulled it and I was like, oh, is it yours? And she turns and she's like, no, and it's Lily Allen.

• 25:40Mary Beth Barone?

  You didn't tell me.

• 25:40Benito Skinner?

  And I had her, my headphones in, listening to her. And I went, I'm literally listening to your album. I didn't know what else to say, but I was just like.

• 25:47Mary Beth Barone?

  She was at CFTAs as well.

• 25:48Benito Skinner?

  I was like, it's fucking demonically good. And she was like, thank you, baby. And it was like, she was so perfect. She's so beautiful.

• 25:56Mary Beth Barone?

  I read her book.

• 25:56Benito Skinner?

  So beautiful.

• 25:57Mary Beth Barone?

  I read her book. Wonderful.

• 25:59Benito Skinner?

  She's just in, oh, my God. I mean, she, what a, what an incredible album. But yeah, it was so strange. I just.

• 26:04Mary Beth Barone?

  That's surreal.

• 26:05Benito Skinner?

  And I said, New York, so many surprises await, don't they?

• 26:09Mary Beth Barone?

  Yes.

• 26:10Benito Skinner?

  Yes.

• 26:10Mary Beth Barone?

  Yes.

• 26:11Benito Skinner?

  Should we get into our rides?

• 26:12Mary Beth Barone?

  Yes. This week, I'm riding for a 25-year-old mindset. But there's like more to it. It's a 25-year-old mindset with the wisdom of a 34-year-old.

• 26:22Benito Skinner?

  Perfect title for a show.

• 26:24Mary Beth Barone?

  We need a new longest title of an episode of all time. I think we're gonna get it with this one.

• 26:28Benito Skinner?

  Well, I thought constituents would be in there. I thought we were gonna keep all that.

• 26:31Mary Beth Barone?

  Well, I did.

• 26:32Benito Skinner?

  I look terrible today.

• 26:33Mary Beth Barone?

  No, I don't think so.

• 26:34Benito Skinner?

  Holy shit.

• 26:35Mary Beth Barone?

  I don't think so.

• 26:36Benito Skinner?

  Oh, my God. You know what? It's just, what's a bummer is that we could have kept pods to radio vibe.

• 26:43Mary Beth Barone?

  I almost sneezed.

• 26:45Benito Skinner?

  Don't.

• 26:46Mary Beth Barone?

  Whoa, that was scary. What are you writing for?

• 26:48Benito Skinner?

  I will be writing for, be, wait, this will be a really long one. The title of this will be.

• 26:53Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah, I know that. So that was the joke.

• 26:54Benito Skinner?

  Oh, for both of us. I thought it was just you.

• 26:56Mary Beth Barone?

  Well, mine would be the longest, but, and we couldn't keep constituents. I think you meant counterparts and a lot of people have offered that as a gift. Is that you meant that? And I think they're correct.

• 27:05Benito Skinner?

  Of course, I meant that. But here's the thing, like, you're gonna see. You're gonna see all of me. Like, I'm at my wit's end here.

• 27:13Mary Beth Barone?

  I want to know if other podcasts are as self-referential as our podcast. We constantly talk about the fact that we're doing a podcast.

• 27:20Benito Skinner?

  I know. And also, someone was like callbacks, which I didn't realize how much we do until I was writing a script and then I went callback, callback, callback. Like, to write a second season of a show? Oh, my God, it's a fucking.

• 27:31Mary Beth Barone?

  You're eating.

• 27:32Benito Skinner?

  Everything's a callback. I can, oh, my God. So I will be writing for being in a gallery for 30 minutes.

• 27:39Mary Beth Barone?

  Wait, where are we going?

• 27:40Benito Skinner?

  Who cares? Ride!

• 27:43Mary Beth Barone?

  This is so cool, because I finally get to talk about being sexually harassed at LACMA.

• 27:46Benito Skinner?

  Oh, good. Yes, of course.

• 27:48Mary Beth Barone?

  The first time I did a gallery in 30 minutes, so I was running.

• 27:51Benito Skinner?

  Do you want me to go, or you go, sister?

• 27:53Mary Beth Barone?

  I think you should go first.

• 27:55Benito Skinner?

  Thank you.

• 27:55Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 27:56Benito Skinner?

  So, I have a short attention span, definitely, so you can probably figure out why being in a Zoom for a long time is sometimes difficult for me.

• 28:05Mary Beth Barone?

  Sorry, I'm watching the fuzz that you just took off your lip float away.

• 28:09Benito Skinner?

  Yes.

• 28:10Mary Beth Barone?

  It was airborne for a while.

• 28:11Benito Skinner?

  Well, I was so excited, it got to be on my list. I said not yet.

• 28:15Mary Beth Barone?

  And it almost landed back on your mouth. I just watched it.

• 28:17Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, well, of course.

• 28:18Mary Beth Barone?

  But it didn't quite meet.

• 28:19Benito Skinner?

  It's desperate. It's pathetic. I used to feel so much guilt, like I would, if I was going to like a gallery or something, or I was at like a museum, I think, fuck, okay, I gotta be here a long time.

• 28:27Mary Beth Barone?

  Well, it's a whole day.

• 28:29Benito Skinner?

  It's a whole day, and I'm like, everyone will judge me. And so then it limited how many museums I was going to. Because I was like, well, it's a whole fucking day. I gotta, I gotta be in the Whitney for two hours.

• 28:38Mary Beth Barone?

  I think that's instilled from school, because if you went to a museum, that was the whole day.

• 28:41Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 28:42Mary Beth Barone?

  You were doing a field trip, and you were there the entire day.

• 28:44Benito Skinner?

  Did they teach us anything we needed? So, I, no, I love schools, I love teachers. The American education system is broken. Okay, so, within museum culture, yeah, I just thought it would be disrespectful. But then the more I thought about it, the more I'm like, but that means I'm not going. And then, I was in, travel privilege, Paris.

• 29:04Mary Beth Barone?

  When you stole from the Louvre?

• 29:06Benito Skinner?

  Yes. Let me tell you, I wouldn't have, those wouldn't have been the things I would have stolen. Let's just be totally honest. Like, what do you want? That's not what I'm stealing.

• 29:14Mary Beth Barone?

  No, and we'll talk about offline what you're stealing.

• 29:16Benito Skinner?

  Oh, of course. Yeah. There's a, yeah, I've got a few pieces I've got my eyes on. No, I would have robbed the Picasso Museum in Paris, because it's so, it's small. And this is what kind of like alerted me to this, because I thought, wait. I went with our friend, I know a. I had the best afternoon there, or thirty minute afternoon, because we got, literally, we went in, it was coffee time, it was like eleven. Go in, out at eleven forty-five.

• 29:42Mary Beth Barone?

  It's just stop along the way.

• 29:43Benito Skinner?

  Went on a thirty minute walk, well, I just forgot what the fucking, what's the water called? The Seine. Walk across the Seine and get a little lunch, and it's like, I did so much more for the rest of the day, but it was like, this Picasso museum also like, come on there, easy airways, tell me you're listening, right? I said that to myself.

• 30:02Mary Beth Barone?

  Problematic fave as well, I just want to call that out.

• 30:04Benito Skinner?

  A problematic fave, I know, I know, I know, and I'm sorry.

• 30:07Mary Beth Barone?

  Hey, I'm sorry we brought that up.

• 30:09Benito Skinner?

  I'm fucking sorry.

• 30:09Mary Beth Barone?

  I'm sorry we put the unknown artist Picasso in front of so many new people.

• 30:14Benito Skinner?

  I'm sorry to give a voice to Picasso, so, yes, I, I went into this museum and it was like, it just, it was a little trip, and I just got like, I was a little inspired, it was beautiful to see the work, it was such a lovely way to spend some time with a bestie, we played the game, which I love playing, which is like, which one would you take home? Which I played at the Louvre, and then I did it, it was perfect. And so I've been really inspired, because now being back in New York, so many museums, obviously, and I'm like, I'm gonna do that, so, the other day, I was just walking, and I went into this random gallery, and I just was in there for like fifteen minutes, and I did a lap, and I loved it, and I took a photo of a few things, and then I left, and no one's mad at me, that I know of.

• 30:54Mary Beth Barone?

  Right.

• 30:55Benito Skinner?

  Obviously, if you go to the Met, I think thirty minutes is gonna be tricky, you're probably gonna get just out of the lobby.

• 30:59Mary Beth Barone?

  Right.

• 30:59Benito Skinner?

  But.

• 31:00Mary Beth Barone?

  You're gonna get through the line in that time.

• 31:01Benito Skinner?

  But I guess it's the sentiment of, you don't have to be in there any longer than you want to be.

• 31:06Mary Beth Barone?

  And you don't even have to see everything, you could do a floor here, a floor there, like, I think it is also a difference between LA and New York, because I find that in LA, I really can do one thing per day, whereas in New York, I do about twelve to fifteen things per day, so it's like, if I'm going to the Whitney or the MoMA or whatever, I'm just like, I'm popping in, I'm doing a few laps of different areas, and then I'm leaving, and I usually go to museums alone, or galleries, because I know that I'm gonna move at a pace that other people are not comfortable with.

• 31:32Benito Skinner?

  Exactly, and I feel judged by the people I'm coming with, because I'm like, if, I guess if I don't read every plaque, they're gonna think I'm an idiot.

• 31:37Mary Beth Barone?

  Well, they're gonna think you're unlearned.

• 31:39Benito Skinner?

  They're gonna think I don't know what constituents mean.

• 31:40Mary Beth Barone?

  They're gonna think you don't know how to say "serevi."

• 31:43Benito Skinner?

  Don't reference our ads too. They're gonna just need to know all of it.

• 31:47Mary Beth Barone?

  Well, yeah, as they should.

• 31:49Benito Skinner?

  Dive into the work.

• 31:50Mary Beth Barone?

  Please.

• 31:51Benito Skinner?

  Or don't. But yeah, I just, this is kind of my new thing. I think it's lovely and I want to challenge everyone to go into a museum and rip through it. Jog if you have to. Just, just do what you have to do to get fed by the art. And there's no time limit on that.

• 32:06Mary Beth Barone?

  Right.

• 32:06Benito Skinner?

  I'm also saying, you know, do whatever you want, be in there for five hours. But I do say this to people sometimes if I'm like, if you really want to dive into this museum in like the deepest way possible, you have to do that on your own.

• 32:18Mary Beth Barone?

  Absolutely. And we're gonna go to the Planetarium at the Natural History Museum. There is a new exhibit voiced by Pedro Pascal.

• 32:23Benito Skinner?

  Oh, I can't wait. I literally can't wait. Him talking about galaxy and I'm sitting next to Ms. Galaxy Brain.

• 32:28Mary Beth Barone?

  Me, Galaxy Brain. So one time I went to LACMA alone. I was just like having a day, you know, I was gonna just like have a day of on my own.

• 32:35Benito Skinner?

  LACMA is so beautiful.

• 32:36Mary Beth Barone?

  It's so beautiful. And I was looking at this exhibit. I was having a great time. And then the sky with the French accent, was he French? I don't know, but he had the accent.

• 32:45Benito Skinner?

  Sebastian.

• 32:45Mary Beth Barone?

  He came up to me and he was like, do you know the name of this artist? And I was like, oh, like I like, I had taken a photo of the name and I showed it to him. And then he started following me. And then he was asking me like, what are you doing in LA? And I was like, oh, I'm here for work. I stupidly told him that I was a comedian. He asked my name, he pulls up my website, he's looking at my stand up. He references this joke I have that I became a slut late in life because I never went to camp. So he's like watching my Comedy Central Cluster Fest set, like at the museum, following me, by the way. And I'm like trying to lose him, like I'm walking fast, you know, I'm a fast walker. And he says, what is in like slut late in life? And I was just like, what? And he was like, he like showed me, he was watching my, and I was like, oh, it's just like a joke that I have.

• 33:29Mary Beth Barone?

  And then he was literally following me like, there's one thing at LACMA that's like really big steel like walls that you can move through. And he followed me through that. And eventually I was just literally like, I actually like, I just like left, walked out of the museum. He follows me to the street and he's like, could I take you to dinner? And I was just like, no.

• 33:46Benito Skinner?

  No.

• 33:47Mary Beth Barone?

  So then I did do a museum in 30 minutes because of a safety issue.

• 33:50Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, so this isn't what I meant.

• 33:52Mary Beth Barone?

  No, but I'm just saying, and, and, and I allowed myself, I said, I don't need to stay at this museum one minute longer. I can just leave anytime.

• 33:59Benito Skinner?

  And feel no guilt about that.

• 34:00Mary Beth Barone?

  No, and I felt no guilt and I left.

• 34:02Benito Skinner?

  We just want you to be safe.

• 34:03Mary Beth Barone?

  And I was safe, but it was something that, that is something that happened to me, so.

• 34:07Benito Skinner?

  Every story a woman tells me. It's a fairy, it seems like it's a fairy tale.

• 34:10Mary Beth Barone?

  Yesterday was a fairy tale.

• 34:12Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 34:12Mary Beth Barone?

  And my life is a movie.

• 34:14Benito Skinner?

  Last night was a fucking movie.

• 34:16Mary Beth Barone?

  Last night was a movie. I love this. I also love the idea that like when you go to a museum or a gallery on your own, you move at your own pace. Like you could stay there all day if you want. You could have lunch in the cafe.

• 34:24Benito Skinner?

  It's crazy to think that every piece of art would speak to me. So I stop for the things that do and I don't for the things that don't. And it's no hate to the art. I just, it's not for me. But yeah, I also think what's really nice is if you go to a place that is really big, you go to the specific exhibit.

• 34:39Mary Beth Barone?

  Right.

• 34:39Benito Skinner?

  That's coming, you know, that's very special too. I've done that with LACMA a few times. They did a really amazing McQueen exhibit in like 23, 2023. And then they had this amazing exhibit one time where it was Interscope artists and they had all these artists come in and repaint like covers of albums, like do their artistic interpretation of album covers. That was explosive.

• 34:58Mary Beth Barone?

  Wow.

• 34:58Benito Skinner?

  So just things like that. And I saw that and it took me like 30 minutes and I could have felt guilty, but I said, my dad jogs through museums and I think this is who I got it for. I took him to the Academy Museum. And I kind of thought like, okay, well, this one I might, you know, it's like, I'm gonna stay for a bit. They've got the ruby red slippers and jaws here. Like I'm gonna lock in. Also, they had the, the painted backdrop from a Hitchcock film.

• 35:23Mary Beth Barone?

  Whoa.

• 35:23Benito Skinner?

  North by Northwest.

• 35:25Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 35:25Benito Skinner?

  And I was like, I just, I was so excited. So we, we were literally there for like maybe 40. Like we just completely ripped through it. And I'm just like, I think this is just who we are.

• 35:36Mary Beth Barone?

  And that's okay.

• 35:37Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 35:37Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah. My parents took us to like Italy when I was a kid and we went to so many museums. But that was back in the day when I, I think, like I wasn't necessarily in a stroller, but I like could have, like I could get away with being in a stroller on that trip just because.

• 35:52Benito Skinner?

  Someone told me stroller late in life.

• 35:54Mary Beth Barone?

  Stroller late in life, pacifier late in life.

• 35:56Benito Skinner?

  Oh, you didn't have to say that.

• 35:57Mary Beth Barone?

  My blankies, as many people know. I mean, it's exhausting. It's an athletic pursuit.

• 36:02Benito Skinner?

  Of course. I mean, it's a lot of people. It's a lot of line waiting. I will say, talking about Italy, the Last Supper. Is just so not where and what you think it is.

• 36:13Mary Beth Barone?

  The painting? Where was it?

• 36:14Benito Skinner?

  Well, yeah, it's on a wall in a church.

• 36:17Mary Beth Barone?

  Oh, yeah. I mean, they'll just do that.

• 36:19Benito Skinner?

  Blew me away.

• 36:19Mary Beth Barone?

  No, they'll just do that.

• 36:20Benito Skinner?

  Do you know that it was bombed during World War II and that it stayed and the rest got destroyed?

• 36:25Mary Beth Barone?

  World War II?

• 36:26Benito Skinner?

  Shit like that fucks me up so raw.

• 36:28Mary Beth Barone?

  I think what's so interesting about World War II is that we all know so much top line. Yeah, it's a clip. We all know so much top line, but so much shit happened in Europe that we don't even know about. And I learned about like what happened in London because I was dating a British guy. But like, they were literally bombing the city. And all these kids had to take the train out to the countryside without their parents for like safety reasons.

• 36:53Benito Skinner?

  That's the plot of Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe.

• 36:55Mary Beth Barone?

  Oh, I didn't know that.

• 36:56Benito Skinner?

  Isn't that what? I hope that's right. I believe that's.

• 36:58Mary Beth Barone?

  If it's not, lock your doors.

• 37:00Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, they're sent out.

• 37:01Mary Beth Barone?

  Lock your doors.

• 37:02Benito Skinner?

  They're sent out of the city and then they stay in that castle. I'm very excited for the Greta Gerwig.

• 37:07Mary Beth Barone?

  The reboot.

• 37:07Benito Skinner?

  The reboot.

• 37:08Mary Beth Barone?

  Although I will say Timothy Chalamet, your Vogue cover, there's easier ways to say you listened to Ride.

• 37:13Benito Skinner?

  Exactly, and that you're very excited for a special coming.

• 37:15Mary Beth Barone?

  Or a Netflix special called Galaxy Brain. Also, for that matter, I am touring. That will have been announced, that I am touring all across this beautiful nation and Vancouver.

• 37:24Benito Skinner?

  Are you touring after the writer's room? Yeah.

• 37:26Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah. It's in the new year. 2026, get your tickets.

• 37:30Benito Skinner?

  I should be in the back room.

• 37:31Mary Beth Barone?

  And the special taping sold out in like an hour and a half, so thank you, Briones. We crashed the NYU website. Thank you.

• 37:39Benito Skinner?

  Thank you. It's a perfect hour of comedy. I'll watch an hour of comedy and do 30 minutes.

• 37:44Mary Beth Barone?

  At a museum.

• 37:44Benito Skinner?

  At the world's most beautiful museums. No, I, um, fuck this.

• 37:48Mary Beth Barone?

  You're burping a lot.

• 37:49Benito Skinner?

  This La Qua, no, someone needs to burp me. Do you understand?

• 37:52Mary Beth Barone?

  Later, at Lucien. Later.

• 37:55Benito Skinner?

  Thank you. I hope this is just one of those rides that just really inspires you.

• 38:01Benito Skinner?

  Sebastian Stan.

• 38:03Mary Beth Barone?

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• 38:22Benito Skinner?

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• 38:39Mary Beth Barone?

  Winter Soldier.

• 38:40Benito Skinner?

  Soldier, tinkered, tailor, soldier, spy.

• 38:42Mary Beth Barone?

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• 38:58Benito Skinner?

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• 39:15Mary Beth Barone?

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• 39:30Benito Skinner?

  Come take this Nutrafol with me, okay? Do you think they'll play any of these ads in our Lifetime Achievement Award sizzles? Great.

• 39:39Mary Beth Barone?

  So, here's the thing.

• 39:40Benito Skinner?

  I fucking love Zocdoc. I'm serious.

• 39:42Mary Beth Barone?

  I mean, we just can't say enough good things about it. I could flip this table.

• 39:44Benito Skinner?

  What's up, doc?

• 39:45Mary Beth Barone?

  Whoa.

• 39:45Benito Skinner?

  Zocdoc.

• 39:46Mary Beth Barone?

  This is how much I love Zocdoc.

• 39:47Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 39:48Mary Beth Barone?

  A lot of people know that I floss every day, and that's something that I'm really proud of. So I started flossing, and things were getting caught. My floss was getting caught. I couldn't get it down there between two of my teeth, and I said, "I think something is rotten in Denmark." So I was in LA. I wasn't with my usual family dentist. I had to go on Zocdoc. I found a dentist. I went in. I needed a filling. I got it done.

• 40:07Benito Skinner?

  It's easy.

• 40:08Mary Beth Barone?

  It was literally so easy and I couldn't have done it without Zocdoc because my god, if you just Google dentist, Los Angeles, it could be dizzying.

• 40:13Benito Skinner?

  And you can get in day of, like for so many places.

• 40:16Mary Beth Barone?

  You can get in day of. You see all of the available appointments.

• 40:18Benito Skinner?

  It's really, really fantastic. And I know this is hard. I don't know. Something about our generation, it's just the doctor's office is of it all.

• 40:24Mary Beth Barone?

  Our parents made our appointments way too late in life. That's the real problem. Zocdoc is a free app and website where you can search and compare high-quality in-network doctors and click to instantly book an appointment. You can book in-network appointments with more than 100,000 doctors across every specialty, from mental health to dental health, primary care to urgent care and more.

• 40:43Benito Skinner?

  You can filter for doctors who take your insurance. This is like my favorite little feature, are located nearby, are a good fit for any medical need you may have, and are highly rated by verified patients. You can see their little ratings.

• 40:53Mary Beth Barone?

  Appointments made through Zocdoc also happen fast, typically within just 24 to 72 hours of booking. More often than not, you can get same-day appointments, as you mentioned. So stop hitting off those doctor's appointments and go to zocdoc.com/ride to find and instantly book a top-rated doctor today.

• 41:06Benito Skinner?

  That's Z O C D O C dot com slash ride. Zocdoc dot com slash ride.

• 41:13Mary Beth Barone?

  I'm gonna talk about having a 25-year-old mindset with the wisdom of a 34-year-old.

• 41:20Mary Beth Barone?

  Being 25 was a very tumultuous time for me. I had just gotten out of a long-term relationship. I had just started doing comedy. I had completely blown up my life. And I was like, I need to get out there and have experiences.

• 41:30Benito Skinner?

  You did a hard reset.

• 41:31Mary Beth Barone?

  I did a hard reset. And honey, obviously I've grown. I'm self-actualized now, or at least I think I am, which I think you are. If you think you're self-actualized, I think you are or something.

• 41:40Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, you're like close-ish. I think I'm like 90%. I've got like 10 left. I'm excited.

• 41:45Mary Beth Barone?

  So I just, I'm back out there. I'm out in these streets. I'm single.

• 41:50Benito Skinner?

  Raw.

• 41:51Mary Beth Barone?

  Raw. And I'm taking a lot of the experiences that I have when I was 25. And like some of them, I'm really like letting go and falling into, like going out with my best friend and getting drunk. I'm in a drinking era, which I think will end on New Year's Day, but we'll see.

• 42:05Benito Skinner?

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 42:06Mary Beth Barone?

  We'll see.

• 42:07Benito Skinner?

  Well, it's like drinking while you're shooting a show is hard.

• 42:09Mary Beth Barone?

  It's really hard. So I think right now I'm like, I'm going out, I'm socializing. I'm having conversations.

• 42:17Benito Skinner?

  Work in the table at CFDA.

• 42:18Mary Beth Barone?

  Oh, honey, I had no choice. I had no choice. So I'm really putting myself out there in the way that I did when I was 25. But I now have, I have so much more like respect for myself and I know what I can handle and what I can't a lot better. When I was 25, I could just put up with a lot more and now I'm just not going to do that. So it's like knowing your worth, knowing what your boundaries are, knowing your limits.

• 42:42Benito Skinner?

  It's really incredible. I've been working with a therapist, which I haven't for a long time, not since randomly college, but you know what's so funny? When I was abroad in London, I went to this therapist because I was really trying to get Zoloft. And it was a bitch to get randomly. And so I go and I'm like talking to this woman and then we talk for an hour and then she's like, come back tomorrow. Like we should do another hour. So we do an hour. At the end, she looks at me and goes, you are gay.

• 43:08Mary Beth Barone?

  That was your diagnosis?

• 43:09Benito Skinner?

  I just went, uh, yeah. So you're really going to clock my tea right now?

• 43:13Mary Beth Barone?

  So after our session, I, I went into my book of mental illnesses that they publish, that the NHS publishes.

• 43:19Benito Skinner?

  Well, she was in the Great British Library and she, uh, I have a book on this one.

• 43:22Mary Beth Barone?

  Gay, homosexual.

• 43:24Benito Skinner?

  Gay, gay, gay, gay, gay. She didn't lie and she, I mean, I should go back to her and see what she thinks now.

• 43:29Mary Beth Barone?

  I'll go visit her.

• 43:30Benito Skinner?

  Oh, I'll go see her.

• 43:31Mary Beth Barone?

  25 is actually when I started therapy for the very first time, was at 25.

• 43:34Benito Skinner?

  Wow, 25. I was in New York freshly out and, and putting on wigs. So I felt in that moment, like there was something, there was, I had verve.

• 43:43Mary Beth Barone?

  I was a lot more self-destructive when I was 25 and I think what I'm doing now is like it's self-destructive light. You know, it's like, I'm not doing anything that would cause permanent damage.

• 43:53Benito Skinner?

  Exactly.

• 43:53Mary Beth Barone?

  But I'm having fun and I'm, I'm trying to like let go a little bit, not feel like I need to be white knuckling every day.

• 43:59Benito Skinner?

  Surrender.

• 44:01Mary Beth Barone?

  This is our big surrender episode.

• 44:02Benito Skinner?

  Oh, of course. We, we love a theme. We do love it. I mean, oh my God.

• 44:06Mary Beth Barone?

  Season two, such good themes.

• 44:07Benito Skinner?

  I'll stop. But new therapist, what, what was I going to say about her? What were you talking about?

• 44:11Mary Beth Barone?

  I think like limits, boundaries.

• 44:14Benito Skinner?

  Oh, yeah. I think working with a new therapist and trying to find like. The kind of adult way of approaching some of these things with a youthful verve and energy to them and being excited by them. And I feel like that feels so, it's strange like to be constantly back in a college.

• 44:36Mary Beth Barone?

  I know. I was actually thinking about that today because I have a lot of memories from college that are sort of these like stories that I repeat in my head over and over and over that are extremely traumatic and damaging. And I was like, do I need to do like ketamine therapy to let go of that? But I also think being, being in a show about college, it just naturally brings that stuff up to the surface.

• 44:56Benito Skinner?

  Jake Samus was at my house and he knocked on the door because we were going to do like a

• 45:00Mary Beth Barone?

  A fitting.

• 45:01Benito Skinner?

  And I was writing this scene in the first episode. I unknowingly was sobbing at such a degree that it was like a little, like it was clinical kind of. And I was like, just a second. It like took me out of it because I did, I think I did feel very lucky that we get to do that. Because I'm like, this is so insane that this thing happened.

• 45:22Mary Beth Barone?

  Well, we get to process our grief through art, which is really a privilege.

• 45:26Benito Skinner?

  The only thing I get scared of is acting it out again because you just feel so sad. But then after it's fun. You just have to make sure while you're coming out 50 times on camera, they are also filming a Christina Aguilera Dirty Music video in the parking lot. And that's kind of the exact, that's the, that's the diagnosis on that one, gay.

• 45:44Mary Beth Barone?

  Gay.

• 45:45Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 45:46Mary Beth Barone?

  The biggest difference between being 25 and now for me, as far as like, you know, how I'm moving through the world of dating is like, when I was 25, I would take crumbs. I would take the tiniest little crumbs and be fine with that and be, I'd be fed. I'm not taking crumbs anymore. I just can't, I just can't do it. I just don't, it's, I have such a full life in so many other ways. I'm like, I can't be getting crumbs. But what's really scary is right now I don't have a crush on anyone.

• 46:11Benito Skinner?

  I know. And I'm so, sweetie, you deserve, I want one for you so bad. Like I'll do anything.

• 46:18Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 46:19Benito Skinner?

  Gay guys aren't off the table.

• 46:20Mary Beth Barone?

  And it's not like I'm not, it's not like I'm not out there meeting people.

• 46:23Benito Skinner?

  Fall, fall for me. Just let it happen. Don't fight it anymore. Fall.

• 46:28Mary Beth Barone?

  To anyone that is

• 46:30Benito Skinner?

  Fall.

• 46:30Mary Beth Barone?

  Fallen.

• 46:31Benito Skinner?

  Fallen.

• 46:31Mary Beth Barone?

  Fallen love. To anyone that is single and never expected that they would be ever again, which is my situation.

• 46:37Benito Skinner?

  Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

• 46:38Mary Beth Barone?

  I know, I know, wait, don't wait. I was in a four and a half year relationship that I, I thought we were gonna get married. And then my previous one also, I was like, this is it. So I never thought I would be doing these things. I see, I went to get an STD test recently.

• 46:53Benito Skinner?

  This is you at the club right now?

• 46:54Mary Beth Barone?

  This is me.

• 46:55Benito Skinner?

  With this 25.

• 46:56Mary Beth Barone?

  With my 25 year old energy. I'm, I'm like, why, I'm not connecting with these guys.

• 47:01Benito Skinner?

  I got an STD test today.

• 47:03Mary Beth Barone?

  Well, someone saw me say, I'm in my kissing era. All I really wanna do right now is kiss. And he goes, challenge accepted. He made a fool of me.

• 47:10Benito Skinner?

  Wait, that just kinda gave me goosebumps. That's kinda hot.

• 47:12Mary Beth Barone?

  He made a fool of me.

• 47:14Benito Skinner?

  Oh.

• 47:14Mary Beth Barone?

  A fool.

• 47:15Benito Skinner?

  Do I know?

• 47:15Mary Beth Barone?

  Yes. So then I did go get an STD test, which felt very 25.

• 47:20Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 47:21Mary Beth Barone?

  I don't know about you, but I'm feeling 25. Because when you're 22, you just have sex without whatever and you don't get an STD test. But when you're 25, I think you are a little more aware of like all the risks. So you're like, well, I'm gonna go get tested. So to walk into City MD, get an STD test. By the way, I'm walking by these people in masks going like, oh, you have COVID? I had sex.

• 47:42Benito Skinner?

  You're like, so, do you guys have anything for after you get fucked raw?

• 47:48Mary Beth Barone?

  The doctor was a barony.

• 47:50Benito Skinner?

  Oh, good.

• 47:50Mary Beth Barone?

  Loved the pod. And she had seen me do improv with Josh Sharp and Aaron Jackson just weeks prior.

• 47:55Benito Skinner?

  Perfect.

• 47:56Mary Beth Barone?

  She's like, my friends, we all love the pod. I go, HIPAA, be damned. You can tell them that. You don't, you don't have to tell them why I came in.

• 48:02Benito Skinner?

  Burn it.

• 48:03Mary Beth Barone?

  If you want, you can, but you can totally tell them that we met.

• 48:05Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 48:06Mary Beth Barone?

  And I was like, I'm in good hands.

• 48:08Benito Skinner?

  Oh, of course.

• 48:08Mary Beth Barone?

  And clean bill of health.

• 48:10Benito Skinner?

  That's how I felt with that.

• 48:10Mary Beth Barone?

  Can I just say clean bill of health?

• 48:12Benito Skinner?

  Well, the 25 year old mindset, I, I think I'm helping to contribute because what does a girly have in her 20? When she's 25, she has her Stanford.

• 48:21Mary Beth Barone?

  Her Stanford blast.

• 48:24Benito Skinner?

  You know what I mean?

• 48:25Mary Beth Barone?

  Totally.

• 48:26Benito Skinner?

  Come on now.

• 48:27Mary Beth Barone?

  Come on now.

• 48:27Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, Carrie's fully like the inner 30s.

• 48:29Mary Beth Barone?

  Or her Anthony.

• 48:31Benito Skinner?

  Of course. Or very Charlotte and Anthony. Oh, that's very us, actually, if I'm thinking about it. Yeah, I think there's something, there's verve, there's, yeah, I'm wearing less and going out more.

• 48:43Mary Beth Barone?

  There's also a level of hope, I think. I have slightly less than I did at 25. Because you feel like when you're 25, you have all the time in the world. Not that I feel old or that my like clock is ticking really, but for me, it's just like, there's potential that I will not meet someone.

• 48:56Benito Skinner?

  Well, I'm not a woman, so I have hope.

• 48:58Mary Beth Barone?

  Right. I'm in the acceptance phase of that, which is just like, maybe I'll, I'll just have this beautiful life in so many other ways. We'll see. We'll see. And I won't bring, I won't have to bring someone that drags me down to a dinner.

• 49:09Benito Skinner?

  La vida bonita.

• 49:10Mary Beth Barone?

  La vida bonita.

• 49:11Benito Skinner?

  That's so not, is that what it is?

• 49:13Mary Beth Barone?

  And under the Tuscan sun.

• 49:14Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, you know, the thing. Yeah. See you on New Year's, me and you.

• 49:18Mary Beth Barone?

  New Year's kiss?

• 49:20Benito Skinner?

  We'll see.

• 49:21Mary Beth Barone?

  We'll see.

• 49:22Benito Skinner?

  I heard you're in your kissing era.

• 49:24Mary Beth Barone?

  Well, yeah.

• 49:25Benito Skinner?

  Unfortunately, that would work on me. Like, that's not bad.

• 49:29Mary Beth Barone?

  He didn't say that.

• 49:31Benito Skinner?

  Oh.

• 49:31Mary Beth Barone?

  No.

• 49:32Benito Skinner?

  I thought he said that.

• 49:33Mary Beth Barone?

  No, I'm poetic.

• 49:35Benito Skinner?

  Oh, that's, this whole time I thought, and you didn't?

• 49:38Mary Beth Barone?

  No, he didn't say it so explicitly, but I'm just saying that's what happened.

• 49:44Benito Skinner?

  God, that sucks. I'm like, I got really excited. I'm like, okay, it sounds like the one that got away.

• 49:49Mary Beth Barone?

  So that's my husband.

• 49:50Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, I'm like, shit, girl, you should have locked it down. He's referencing the work?

• 49:54Mary Beth Barone?

  Well, he definitely referenced the work, but I have this way of like making any situation kind of a painting. You know what I mean?

• 50:02Benito Skinner?

  Sweetie, we're building worlds. I know exactly what you mean. Are you kidding?

• 50:06Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 50:07Benito Skinner?

  What did I do for grace in the first episode?

• 50:11Mary Beth Barone?

  What did you do?

• 50:12Benito Skinner?

  I painted worlds for you.

• 50:13Mary Beth Barone?

  You painted a picture.

• 50:14Benito Skinner?

  Yes.

• 50:14Mary Beth Barone?

  I have been really creatively inspired lately. I will say that, and that's what really scares me. Can I just say this scares me? And I might write a book about this, but my last relationship, until it completely blew up in my face, it was very stable, very quiet, very, very contained. And I didn't write anything during that relationship. My relationship with Edward, you know, very passionate, tumultuous, all that stuff. I was writing constantly. Now that I'm single, unfortunately, I am writing a lot. There's this fear, Katy Perry once said, the biggest lie we've been told as artists is that we need to be in pain to create. Unfortunately, I feel like I might be.

• 50:49Benito Skinner?

  I agree.

• 50:50Mary Beth Barone?

  We'll see. Maybe for some people, it's not a lie. I hope I'll find stability, but not, you know, monotony.

• 50:56Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 50:56Mary Beth Barone?

  But I'm digging these claws into like, this is a point where I can really like pour my heart into my work.

• 51:02Benito Skinner?

  But creation is like, I think it ebbs and flows. Like, at times, I feel, like, even if I'm, like, super happy, like, I can be super happy and have a ton of ideas and feel, like, relaxed and they come to me. But also, yeah, I can be, I would say now, it's like, I feel very creatively inspired.

• 51:18Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 51:19Benito Skinner?

  Certainly. Not out of, you know, of choice.

• 51:21Mary Beth Barone?

  Right.

• 51:22Benito Skinner?

  But you kind of just let it rip.

• 51:23Mary Beth Barone?

  Creativity is sort of thrust upon us.

• 51:25Benito Skinner?

  I know.

• 51:26Mary Beth Barone?

  But I do think, yeah, we'll see what happens. I mean, what's so cool is that not only are we gonna see what happens, but we got an audience and they are ready to dox people if they have to or cheer them on, and I think that's really beautiful.

• 51:40Benito Skinner?

  Who are they doxing?

• 51:41Mary Beth Barone?

  We're not sure yet.

• 51:42Benito Skinner?

  We don't know yet.

• 51:43Mary Beth Barone?

  Well, actually, I have a list, but I'm not, I'm a magnanimous person, so I'm not, I'm not gonna say.

• 51:48Benito Skinner?

  I know. For me to have to live with that list, see them out.

• 51:52Mary Beth Barone?

  It's the things they carried.

• 51:54Benito Skinner?

  The things Benny Drama carried.

• 51:56Mary Beth Barone?

  Carried, yeah.

• 51:56Benito Skinner?

  Have you ever thought about that?

• 51:58Mary Beth Barone?

  I actually have.

• 51:58Benito Skinner?

  Meeting my therapist, have you ever thought about that? She's like, I've never, first question, I go, did you watch Overcompensating? She's like, no, and I won't now. Hurt me.

• 52:05Mary Beth Barone?

  Whoa.

• 52:06Benito Skinner?

  Hurt, like a gunshot.

• 52:07Mary Beth Barone?

  Oh, my therapist watched Overcompensating, asked me to send her the Seth Meyers link, read my Grub Street Diet. She's like, I want to be tapped into the work.

• 52:14Benito Skinner?

  Oh, interesting. Mine was like, I just kind of don't want to see any of it. She said, girl, I'm getting enough.

• 52:19Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah. She's like, I think I know what it's about.

• 52:21Benito Skinner?

  She did. It was so funny. We were talking, she goes, I think I have a good sense of season two. And I, I just started, I was like, oh my god, yeah.

• 52:29Mary Beth Barone?

  You know what she said? The library is open, darling.

• 52:33Benito Skinner?

  She did the same thing. She did the same thing. She said, gay.

• 52:36Mary Beth Barone?

  Gay. She opened the CDC, mental illness.

• 52:40Benito Skinner?

  It took a while, in a Rolodex.

• 52:42Mary Beth Barone?

  Yay.

• 52:43Benito Skinner?

  Gay.

• 52:44Mary Beth Barone?

  You know what you are, Benny?

• 52:45Benito Skinner?

  Hmm, I [BLEEP].

• 52:46Mary Beth Barone?

  Your words, not mine. Babe, you're my ride or die.

• 52:50Benito Skinner?

  Ride or die.

• 52:52Mary Beth Barone?

  She began in a ride or die.

• 52:53Benito Skinner?

  Oh, wait, okay, circling back on that woman that said that to me, you know what's so crazy? It's like, I think about it and I was so in love with someone at the time. And I remember just like, I definitely had, like, said all these things and kind of like, left them, their pronouns kind of out. It was kind of like a Frank Ocean song in a way, like, it was just kind of...

• 53:13Mary Beth Barone?

  And that, dear media.

• 53:15Benito Skinner?

  Like, I just did. You couldn't, you couldn't find your way around it if you tried. And I'm sure, listening to it, she was sitting there like...

• 53:22Mary Beth Barone?

  She said, what's his name?

• 53:24Benito Skinner?

  Say it.

• 53:25Mary Beth Barone?

  Say it.

• 53:26Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, I just, oh my God, I wish I had that on camera. That'd be very helpful for the show. I wish I filmed more.

• 53:32Mary Beth Barone?

  You wish you filmed more of your therapy sessions.

• 53:34Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, no.

• 53:36Mary Beth Barone?

  I ride for going to a museum for 30 minutes. I think I'm always, wait, but you know, I'm always on the move. I'm always on my way to my next thing and I walk so fast. I walk so fast that like it is commented on by every single person I've ever walked with. It's never not commented on. So I'm moving through the world at this fast pace and I'm going the wrong way a lot of the time. But when you're in a museum, there's kind of no wrong way and I love that. It's kind of the opposite of corn maze in that way.

• 54:00Benito Skinner?

  Get lost and then after 30 minutes leave.

• 54:02Mary Beth Barone?

  Find yourself.

• 54:03Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, find yourself and go.

• 54:05Mary Beth Barone?

  I look forward to going to the planetarium with you.

• 54:07Benito Skinner?

  I know.

• 54:07Mary Beth Barone?

  At the Museum of Natural History. And we go in there and we go, God, I have so many good memories here from.

• 54:11Benito Skinner?

  And I say what I miss, MoMA PS1. And I'll stay longer than 30 there. It's some places I will. It's just like, I just, I don't feel. I want the option and I want no judgment. I of course ride for being 32 with a 25 year old mindset.

• 54:26Mary Beth Barone?

  We're in this together.

• 54:28Benito Skinner?

  Well, of course, sweetie. Aim for the bushes. What's that joke with The Rock and was it Kevin Hart at the beginning of that movie?

• 54:35Mary Beth Barone?

  Oh, the one where they die instantly.

• 54:38Benito Skinner?

  And they say aim for the bushes when they jump off a building.

• 54:40Mary Beth Barone?

  And but they die.

• 54:41Benito Skinner?

  If that ain't us.

• 54:42Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah, if that ain't us.

• 54:42Benito Skinner?

  I definitely feel more like risk taking and I think I marvel at your energy. I'm just, I'm such a two drink wonder though. I wonder if I ever will get past that.

• 54:54Mary Beth Barone?

  Oh, I'm loving two and a half drinks lately.

• 54:56Benito Skinner?

  Oh, two and a half drinks and I'm just, I'm moving. It's like I'm doing the figure eight. I'm feeling, I'm feeling my body and it's, God, it feels good to be alive. I love like going out to dinners a lot and getting trained.

• 55:09Mary Beth Barone?

  Oh, we're gonna go to so many dinners now that you live here.

• 55:11Benito Skinner?

  So many dinners.

• 55:12Mary Beth Barone?

  Like after this, for example.

• 55:13Benito Skinner?

  Like we're going to dinner tonight. Gotta get that. Gotta get that. Gotta get that, that, that, that.

• 55:22Mary Beth Barone?

  You know what's great about New York? We could go to dinner tonight. This isn't gonna happen, but we could go to dinner tonight, get buzzed and literally just go dancing if we wanted to.

• 55:31Benito Skinner?

  I know. Can you actually do that? I said, I know, but.

• 55:33Mary Beth Barone?

  You can.

• 55:34Benito Skinner?

  Oh, and I have danced twice.

• 55:38Benito Skinner?

  Twice since I've been in New York City. Well, I took a trip and then-

• 55:42Mary Beth Barone?

  More to come on that.

• 55:42Benito Skinner?

  I took a trip and then I-

• 55:44Mary Beth Barone?

  More to come.

• 55:45Benito Skinner?

  More to come. I really, I wanna dance more. Come on, let's do this thing. London, I ride for it because I have a front seat to you doing it. And I think you're gonna inspire me more. I don't know if I've totally tapped in yet. I've just been really hunkered down-

• 55:58Mary Beth Barone?

  You just had to move across the country.

• 55:59Benito Skinner?

  And I am moving across the country. Just a couple of things going on, but I think he lives in me.

• 56:06Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 56:06Benito Skinner?

  And I'm excited to meet him.

• 56:08Mary Beth Barone?

  Me too, cuz I didn't know you when you were 25.

• 56:10Benito Skinner?

  Oh, God. You went a lot.

• 56:12Mary Beth Barone?

  I would've, I guess I would've met you right after that, maybe.

• 56:15Benito Skinner?

  You met me probably 26, 27?

• 56:19Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 56:20Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 56:20Mary Beth Barone?

  We're gonna do it all.

• 56:22Benito Skinner?

  So hard, things that we've been through. Never thought that we'd only grow. But I'm in a house of home with you. Cuz we've been friends, isn't that seven years?

• 56:32Mary Beth Barone?

  And it feels brand new.

• 56:34Benito Skinner?

  I used to live inside a lie with you.

• 56:37Mary Beth Barone?

  I'm sure Charlie loves when we just completely bastardize her music on the pod.

• 56:41Benito Skinner?

  You know, I think she's used to it.

• 56:43Mary Beth Barone?

  Hey, a shout out's a shout out.

• 56:45Benito Skinner?

  When we first started being friends, I had this joke that I kept doing. It was similar to my Olsen bits, where I would go, "Charlie, can you play Pop 2 Start to Finn? Can you sing Pop 2 Start to Finn?" And then finally, it was just like, you know, it's probably not fun for her to hear that anymore.

• 56:58Mary Beth Barone?

  Or is it?

• 56:59Benito Skinner?

  But as we said, I'm friend first. I mean, I'm fan first. Come on. God's dead.

• 57:05Mary Beth Barone?

  Who?

• 57:06Benito Skinner?

  God.

• 57:06Mary Beth Barone?

  Oh.

• 57:09Benito Skinner?

  Oh, my exit.

• 57:11Mary Beth Barone?

  Benny, babe, eyes on the road. Benny, go!

• 57:24Speaker 04

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