Jeff Goldblum

The fabulous Jeff Goldblum pulls up a seat at the table this week. In the midst of his whirlwind tour of promoting his brand new album, Night Blooms, Jeff popped over to New Cross for lunch. A master storyteller, we heard about Jeff’s love of working in the UK, how he met his contortionist wife, why filming Wicked made him pescatarian, the food his family cooked while growing up, and we find out the answer to the ultimate question - ‘at what age should you show your kids the Jurassic Park films?’. Jeff is about to embark on a UK & European tour, including a night at the gorgeous Royal Albert Hall on the 30th June, don’t miss it! The brand new album Night Blooms is available now. Listen & watch Table Manners here - https://tablemanners.komi.io/ Follow Table Manners on: Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/tablemannerspodcast/ TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@tablemannerspodcast Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/tablemannerspodcast YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@TableMannersPodcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy https://acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:13Speaker 01

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• 0:35Jessie Ware?

  Hello and welcome to Table manners. I'm Jessie Ware and I'm here with Lemmy, looking very glam.

• 0:41Speaker 03

  Do I look glam?

• 0:41Jessie Ware?

  You do. You really like, you're rocking the walking stick, which won't be with you forever. We know the hit won't always be bad.

• 0:49Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 0:49Jessie Ware?

  But you are rocking it, the old like, you know, camel beige, camo stuff.

• 0:55Speaker 03

  I didn't bring my leopard print one. I brought my white kind of Dalmatian print today. Yeah.

• 1:01Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 1:04Jessie Ware?

  How are you, Mum?

• 1:05Speaker 03

  I'm not bad, darling.

• 1:06Jessie Ware?

  I've had such a fun week.

• 1:08Speaker 03

  Tell me.

• 1:08Jessie Ware?

  I went to Onteb, well via Corsica on the tarmac for six hours.

• 1:12Speaker 03

  Corsica? Why Corsica is out of, it's an island, not even on the mainland.

• 1:17Jessie Ware?

  Thunderstorms, honestly.

• 1:19Speaker 03

  Oh, no.

• 1:20Jessie Ware?

  But luckily, luckily I could watch six, oh, no, eight hours of Off Campus. My favourite thing.

• 1:29Speaker 03

  Tell me.

• 1:29Jessie Ware?

  Mum, I think you'd like it. Coming of age, ice hockey.

• 1:33Speaker 03

  Who's in it?

• 1:34Jessie Ware?

  Nerd, gorgeous, will they, won't they? Gorgeous. Loved it.

• 1:38Speaker 03

  I'm working on the pit, darling.

• 1:40Jessie Ware?

  Okay. No, this is lighter release. It's great. So I watched that. I had the funnest time. I was with Zimmerman in Onteb.

• 1:48Speaker 03

  Who's Zimmerman?

• 1:49Jessie Ware?

  Zimmerman is an amazing brand, Australian brand.

• 1:51Speaker 03

  Related to Bob Dylan?

• 1:53Jessie Ware?

  Don't think so. Two gorgeous gals, Nikki and Simone, started their company like selling beachwear on the beach in Bondi, I think. And now we're like.

• 2:03Speaker 03

  So did you

• 2:04Jessie Ware?

  Highly successful.

• 2:04Speaker 03

  Did you wear an outfit?

• 2:06Jessie Ware?

  I mean, they did that thirty five years ago. I I wore a few outfits.

• 2:09Speaker 03

  And?

• 2:10Jessie Ware?

  Met fabulous people.

• 2:11Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:11Jessie Ware?

  Danced.

• 2:12Speaker 03

  Did you eat well?

• 2:14Jessie Ware?

  Did I? It was delicious.

• 2:15Speaker 03

  So there was a formal dinner?

• 2:17Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, everything was just so beautifully done. So.

• 2:20Speaker 03

  I'm so pleased you had another couple of days holiday.

• 2:23Jessie Ware?

  Well, you know, I was working the room.

• 2:25Speaker 03

  Okay, darling.

• 2:26Jessie Ware?

  Um, no, it was really fun and I felt very lucky to be there. Um, but now I'm back to reality.

• 2:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:32Jessie Ware?

  And we have the most fantastic guest today.

• 2:34Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 2:35Jessie Ware?

  Jeff Goldblum.

• 2:36Speaker 03

  I wondered if he was going to fly in.

• 2:39Jessie Ware?

  Why?

• 2:40Speaker 03

  He was the fly, David Cronenberg's The Fly.

• 2:42Jessie Ware?

  Was he?

• 2:43Speaker 03

  Don't you remember?

• 2:43Jessie Ware?

  Never saw it.

• 2:44Speaker 03

  Most terrifying film I've ever seen in my life. Yeah. He metamorphosis into a fly.

• 2:51Jessie Ware?

  Okay. Oh, yeah, I remember that.

• 2:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:53Jessie Ware?

  Well, no, I doubt he will.

• 2:55Speaker 03

  No, he looked very jaunty on his Wikipedia page with his kind of pork pie hat. Looks very jazzy.

• 3:01Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, well, jazzy is correct. He has a new jazz album out called Night Blooms and it's out today whilst we record it. Um, and so it's got Cynthia Erivo on there doing a duet. Ariana.

• 3:15Speaker 03

  Scarlett Johansson.

• 3:16Jessie Ware?

  Scarlett Johansson, Charlie Puth.

• 3:17Speaker 03

  Yeah. I didn't know.

• 3:19Jessie Ware?

  Mum, she was a fantastic hedgehog in Sing.

• 3:22Speaker 03

  Oh, I didn't know, darling.

• 3:24Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 3:25Speaker 03

  I'm very interested that we're all blooming at the table. He's, yeah.

• 3:29Jessie Ware?

  Night Bloom, Super Bloom. Yeah, very good. Yeah. So he's coming on to talk about the new jazz album. He's doing some, a run of shows. He's doing a Royal Albert Hall, which is such a great venue. And some European dates. So, yeah. And on the menu today, he's a pescatarian, dairy free.

• 3:44Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 3:44Jessie Ware?

  So I wanted to do something from my friend's new cookbook. So it's Med-esque. It's by Georgina Hayden. She's an amazing Greek secret chef.

• 3:54Speaker 03

  That's her new one?

• 3:55Jessie Ware?

  Yeah. She's such a wonderful chef. She's a brilliant human being and this is her new cookbook.

• 4:01Speaker 03

  And really easy recipes.

• 4:02Jessie Ware?

  Really great recipes. So I've gone.

• 4:06Jessie Ware?

  For the baked cod, fennel and olives with couscous.

• 4:09Speaker 03

  Nice.

• 4:09Jessie Ware?

  It's got a bit of saffron in there, fennel seeds, coriander seeds, do it with a bit of fish stock. It seems very straightforward.

• 4:16Speaker 03

  Good.

• 4:16Jessie Ware?

  So I'm doing it with some couscous and I've just pan fried some pistachios that I've chopped up and then because I make the couscous a bit prettier. And then she's also got a really good green salad in there that I'm doing with it.

• 4:27Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 4:28Jessie Ware?

  And then you've done pudding.

• 4:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, so he didn't want anything with dairy, which is kind of restrictive for pudding. So I've made Elizabeth's fruit salad.

• 4:37Jessie Ware?

  Oh, cousin Elizabeth.

• 4:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, so it's a tropical fruit salad.

• 4:40Jessie Ware?

  Yep.

• 4:41Speaker 03

  But it's got ginger in.

• 4:43Jessie Ware?

  Stem ginger.

• 4:44Speaker 03

  And I bought light cheese on the internet. Tin light cheese. Which came as a kind of catering tin. So it's got tin light cheese and stem ginger in, and I hope it's delicious and some lime juice.

• 4:54Jessie Ware?

  Great, amazing.

• 4:55Speaker 03

  I made an enormous amount so that my grandchildren can have it.

• 4:58Jessie Ware?

  Okay, amazing, thank you. Geoff Goldblum coming up on Table Minds.

• 5:10Jessie Ware?

  Geoff, you're here and you came in with, well, the sophistication and

• 5:15Speaker 03

  Gorgeous.

• 5:16Jessie Ware?

  gorgeousness that we have come to know of you, but it's real. You're here, you smell delicious. What is that scent?

• 5:24Speaker 04

  Oh, interesting you should say. Is it still, oh, it's still lingering.

• 5:28Speaker 03

  Oh, it's gorgeous. It's so.

• 5:31Jessie Ware?

  It's, can I guess?

• 5:32Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 5:32Jessie Ware?

  Keel's Musk.

• 5:33Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 5:34Speaker 03

  How did you know that?

• 5:35Jessie Ware?

  And now I'm gonna kill you. No, like

• 5:37Speaker 04

  Because I like that book, I know, I know.

• 5:40Jessie Ware?

  I love that smell.

• 5:41Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, thank you.

• 5:43Jessie Ware?

  It's such a good one.

• 5:44Speaker 04

  Are you, are you sporting anything particular?

• 5:46Jessie Ware?

  God, I haven't even put perfume on for you, Jer.

• 5:49Speaker 03

  I've got

• 5:49Jessie Ware?

  No, I've got nothing. I've got Odor what, like taking the kids to school, no.

• 5:54Speaker 03

  You've got

• 5:54Jessie Ware?

  I've got nothing, I've got fish stock on my hands.

• 5:56Speaker 03

  Odor cod, yeah.

• 5:58Speaker 04

  Are you

• 5:58Speaker 03

  I've got Chloe on.

• 6:00Speaker 04

  You don't, right.

• 6:01Speaker 03

  But I always have Chloe.

• 6:03Speaker 04

  Oh, hey, that's nice.

• 6:04Speaker 03

  Oh, God.

• 6:05Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, I should have put something on.

• 6:06Speaker 03

  And then he has snuggled into your neck, yeah.

• 6:09Jessie Ware?

  Listen, I'll get it for dessert. Um, how are you?

• 6:12Speaker 04

  I'm so happy to be here, I'm fine and dandy, thank you.

• 6:16Jessie Ware?

  You have a good love affair with the UK, we love you, you kind of love us, I think.

• 6:21Speaker 04

  I'm not kind of, I love you very, very much. I've always, I've been here, I've done a lot of things here, I've read all of P G Wodehouse.

• 6:29Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 6:30Speaker 04

  I pester people by reading it out loud to people over the years. And then I've done things here. I was in, you know, I was in the first movie that Emma Thompson ever did.

• 6:40Speaker 03

  Which one was that?

• 6:41Speaker 04

  The Tall Guy, that Richard Curtis, it was his first script that he

• 6:44Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 6:45Speaker 04

  Did, and Emma Freud, I love, love them. I've done Red Nose Day's things, I'm crazy about him. We've hung out with him recently with them and their kids, love them. And then I did this with the old Vic, you know, and I was on the West End, and I love it, I love it here. And we filmed Wicked here.

• 7:02Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, you were here for ages.

• 7:03Speaker 04

  Yeah, we were there for ages, and then we filmed the last Jurassic Park movie that I did.

• 7:09Speaker 03

  In England?

• 7:10Speaker 04

  Yep, in England.

• 7:11Speaker 03

  God, we've got dinosaurs in England, yeah.

• 7:13Speaker 04

  We filmed it at, you know, Shep- Shepherd.

• 7:15Speaker 03

  Shepperton.

• 7:16Jessie Ware?

  There's Elstree in Shepperton.

• 7:18Speaker 04

  Wicked, Wicked we did at Elstree and Sky, we were at Shepherd, and, and we were the first people to go out pretty much during Covid. So before they had the vaccine and everything, so we were all, but my kids were there, and we all sequestered ourselves for a while there. Yes, I love England.

• 7:34Jessie Ware?

  How long are you here for?

• 7:36Speaker 04

  I'm here for, well, you know, I'm spending a lot of time in Florence with my family.

• 7:42Jessie Ware?

  Oh, great.

• 7:43Speaker 04

  The kids, Reverend Charlie, nine and ten, go to Lise Frances in Los Angeles, and they have many sister schools. And we have found ourselves in Florence for the last four years. And they go there, so we're a hop, skip and a jump away from here, so I'm around here, and then we just toured with our band.

• 8:04Jessie Ware?

  Yes.

• 8:05Speaker 04

  Yes, there's the record, today is the release day.

• 8:07Jessie Ware?

  Congratulations.

• 8:08Speaker 04

  Thank you so much.

• 8:09Jessie Ware?

  It's so gorgeous and

• 8:11Speaker 04

  Did you listen to it?

• 8:12Speaker 03

  Yeah, I listened to it, it's wonderful.

• 8:14Jessie Ware?

  Night blooms.

• 8:15Speaker 03

  It's just gorgeous.

• 8:16Speaker 04

  And your last album was of course, Super Bloom.

• 8:17Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's what we're saying, you're all blooming here, yeah.

• 8:20Jessie Ware?

  Listen, it's rea- and it's such a beautiful cover. It's got, you know, everyone from Melody Garda.

• 8:26Speaker 03

  Oh, I love her.

• 8:29Jessie Ware?

  Ariana's on there.

• 8:30Speaker 04

  You know, she sings, Melody Gardo sings Misty on there.

• 8:32Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, it's really good.

• 8:34Speaker 03

  No, I heard it. It's beautiful.

• 8:36Speaker 04

  Look at me.

• 8:37Speaker 03

  I must helpless as a kitten lost its tree.

• 8:40Speaker 04

  Wow, talk about a voice.

• 8:42Speaker 03

  No, I can't sing at all.

• 8:44Speaker 04

  You sing up a storm.

• 8:45Jessie Ware?

  Cynthia's on there. You've got a duet with Cynthia, haven't you?

• 8:47Speaker 04

  We do a duet with Cynthia Arrivo.

• 8:49Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 8:50Speaker 04

  Did you? I saw her opening night in Dracula.

• 8:52Jessie Ware?

  Oh, don't. I didn't get to go see it.

• 8:54Speaker 04

  And, and I saw her at the Hollywood Bowl doing.

• 8:57Jessie Ware?

  Jesus Christ, that looked insane.

• 9:00Speaker 04

  That was fantastic. So anyway, she's great. Yes, we do a song from The Wizard of Oz. We do a duet of If I Only Had A Brain. How about that?

• 9:10Jessie Ware?

  I know. Who had that idea, Jack? Like, was that you on set?

• 9:15Speaker 04

  No, no. We, you know, we were singing everything on set and then Ariana signed up for something. You know, I started to sing, I don't know why I love you like I do. I don't know why I just do. She said, why, why are you singing that? My grandfather sang that to me all the time. So I said, hey, you want to record with us? And then she said, yeah. And then Cynthia's saying something. She sings, you know what Cynthia sings? We'll meet again.

• 9:37Jessie Ware?

  Oh, she does that one as, yeah.

• 9:38Speaker 04

  Yeah, she did that before. And there's another version of that here. And then we do If I Only Had A Brain. I have a brilliant group that we play with. Our guys, Alex Frank is our musical director and they help pick songs and they're, they're very smart.

• 9:52Speaker 03

  But you're performing this at the Royal Albert Hall.

• 9:54Speaker 04

  So here's what's happened. So the reason, the question originally was, what am I doing around here? How long am I here? We've been around these parts now for a little bit because we've been touring. We went to Wolverhampton and to Manchester, we were just in, where I presented Olivia Dean with a Brit Award a little bit ago. And, and Leve was on stage. I went on, on stage with Leve there. And then she returned the favor at the Troubadour.

• 10:18Jessie Ware?

  Amazing.

• 10:19Speaker 04

  Amazing. So.

• 10:20Jessie Ware?

  The Troubadour in Los Angeles.

• 10:22Speaker 04

  Yes. And then we'll be, we're going to go to the Ottawa Jazz Festival in a little bit.

• 10:27Jessie Ware?

  Wow.

• 10:27Speaker 04

  And then we're going to go to Royal Albert Hall.

• 10:30Speaker 03

  Have you played there before?

• 10:31Speaker 04

  We were there a few years ago on a remembrance day.

• 10:36Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 10:36Speaker 04

  Very movingly and importantly, and we played. One song in the program. Now we're gonna be there for this thing with a new kind of show with a fifty seven piece orchestra.

• 10:47Jessie Ware?

  Wow, the the sound is fabulous in there.

• 10:50Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 10:50Jessie Ware?

  I it's my favorite place to sing.

• 10:52Speaker 04

  Really?

• 10:53Jessie Ware?

  Oh.

• 10:53Speaker 04

  You've sung there many times?

• 10:55Jessie Ware?

  I've done lots of kind of fundraisers there or charity events there. Um, and I just love it. You look out and it's just glorious. You'll love it. You'll love it.

• 11:03Speaker 04

  I can't wait to be there again. Last time when this Remembrance Day, my wife was there who's Canadian. And so she was thrilled that the Queen at the time was there and the whole royal family. They were there and we played for them. She was very, you know, she loved loved the Queen.

• 11:18Jessie Ware?

  She's a she was a rhythmic gymnast.

• 11:20Speaker 04

  Yes, my wife, Emily Livingston, now Emily Goldblum, she took my name, Mrs. Mrs. Emily Goldblum. Um, we've been together now fourteen years, was the Pan American Champion. The best rhythmic gymnast, the ribbon and the ball, you know, that that thing in North and South America. The next year, you know, she was sixteen at the time, uh, next year, I think sixteen, seventeen, she went to the Olympics in Sydney in two thousand. That's what she does and she's still in world class shape and she performs with us sometimes, besides doing many other things. Um, during a song, we did it at the London Palladium, we did it at the Troubadour, and she's gonna do it in Royal Albert Hall. During a song, she gets on stage, she starts dancing.

• 12:03Speaker 04

  And she gets on top of the Steinway Grand Piano and she does a routine which involves hand standing of an eye popping kind and contortion.

• 12:14Jessie Ware?

  Oh, wow.

• 12:15Speaker 04

  Yes, she does that. And so that's what she's gonna be doing. That's what she she still does. Our kids, by the way, play piano. And they played at the London Palladium and the Troubadour, uh, each a song and stole the show.

• 12:30Jessie Ware?

  They must be pretty good for you to let them get on the stage.

• 12:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, they're pretty good.

• 12:34Jessie Ware?

  Just a take note. No, listen, my daughter plays and she's just changed from doing classical to jazz.

• 12:38Speaker 04

  I saw the piano up up there in the other room and I saw a couple of jazz books. I looked into it for a second.

• 12:43Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, she's like.

• 12:44Speaker 04

  How old is she?

• 12:45Jessie Ware?

  She's nine and she's really into it. She's got it.

• 12:48Speaker 04

  Really?

• 12:49Jessie Ware?

  I love hearing her play.

• 12:50Speaker 03

  And she plays with two hands.

• 12:54Jessie Ware?

  And I never had it with that, like, I couldn't ever do the sight reading stuff. I used to play piano, but like really badly. Yeah, and I don't, obviously, I don't do that.

• 13:03Speaker 04

  Beautiful hands.

• 13:03Jessie Ware?

  No, thanks.

• 13:04Speaker 04

  Yes, yes. The, the, so ours is nine, ours is nine and ten, and they play piano, it falls to me and Emily, and a lot to me, and a lot to Emily, to facilitate their practice every day. I, when I was a kid, I took lessons, but you know, I wasn't so good in the practice, and then I finally discovered jazz and got better. But they, you know, it's good for their development, isn't it?

• 13:23Jessie Ware?

  Do they practice every day?

• 13:25Speaker 04

  Yeah, they, they do, because we kind of.

• 13:28Speaker 03

  Encourage.

• 13:29Speaker 04

  Kind of encourage it and facilitate it and watch it and help it.

• 13:31Speaker 03

  And it's worth it?

• 13:33Speaker 04

  Well, I think so, the development, and now they like it, and the older one, both of them are enjoying it, the older one kind of practices, will practice, getting something out of it. Um, and they like to play for people. If we go to a restaurant or somebody's house and they go, can I play?

• 13:47Jessie Ware?

  So what are some of the ones that they're gonna like bust out if they're in a restaurant or at the London Stadium?

• 13:51Speaker 04

  At the London Stadium and at the Troubadour, they played a couple of different things, but Charlie did a version of Flight of the Bumblebee.

• 14:00Speaker 03

  His fingers must have been going like.

• 14:02Speaker 04

  Fingers are good. I'll show you, if I had my phone.

• 14:04Jessie Ware?

  Your, your son did that?

• 14:05Speaker 04

  Yep, I'll show you one he sent me.

• 14:07Jessie Ware?

  Is that the ten year old or the nine year old?

• 14:08Speaker 04

  Ten year old. And then the nine year, yeah.

• 14:10Jessie Ware?

  Oh, no, they're good, they're good.

• 14:11Speaker 04

  I'll show you my, my, finally, he just sent me a new version of it, and they are good, and, you know, not Mozart, but they're, they're, they're good. And, and River did, did a version of a James Bond song. Oh, he did the theme.

• 14:25Speaker 04

  And now he does, he likes to do the Leonard Cohen Hallelujah song.

• 14:30Speaker 04

  It's, it's, it's.

• 14:32Speaker 03

  Does he let you sing along?

• 14:35Speaker 04

  Uh, I sing along, and nobody can stop me from singing.

• 14:37Jessie Ware?

  My daughter tells me to stop cramping her star. Yeah, I was there being like, and she was like, mum, please.

• 14:44Speaker 04

  Well, I do think sometimes Charlie, I just me even tapping my foot or I start to do it. It goes dada. They call me dada. They're kind of French oriented. Dada. Excuse me. Stop.

• 14:54Speaker 03

  Does your wife speak French? Cause she's Canadian.

• 14:56Speaker 04

  Very much. Yes. She's her mom, which you remind me of a young, beautiful version of her mom.

• 15:02Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 15:02Speaker 04

  Also, to whom she's very close.

• 15:04Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 15:04Speaker 04

  This is a sort of a familiar scene to me. And she takes care, helps take care of the kids and she stays with us a lot. She's just wonderful. Bernadette Carizere. She's French from Nantes. And so, and I didn't know that French people, I think, I don't think it's atypical. They like, they are devoted to passing on French culture. Uh, as they go along. But when it came to picking a school, it was sort of a fait accompli.

• 15:31Speaker 03

  But that's good to listen, cause you can move around the world with it.

• 15:34Speaker 04

  And it's very good. And, um, and she has been speaking to them in French sort of consistently. So they speak French and they, you know, in ways that I don't and, um, you know, and they also now, cause we've been in Italy, speak Italian. So those kids speak three languages.

• 15:50Speaker 03

  That's clever.

• 15:51Speaker 04

  I know. I mean, I'm getting a big kick out of them. They're amazing.

• 15:56Speaker 03

  They're fantastic.

• 15:57Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, I know.

• 15:58Jessie Ware?

  Mum, whilst I just sort out the food a bit, why don't we set the scene with asking Jeff?

• 16:03Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 16:03Jessie Ware?

  A memorable dish.

• 16:05Speaker 03

  Well, also, no, I want to know where, where you started. Where were you born?

• 16:10Speaker 04

  I was born in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

• 16:12Speaker 03

  So Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Are there a lot of Jewish people there?

• 16:16Speaker 04

  Yes, there's a, there's an enclave there, um, called Squirrel Hill. That, uh, where we might have lived, but we were in West Homestead. And Squirrel Hill has Taylor Alderdyce in it. And, you know, I might've gone to school there, but we didn't. We went to West, we were in West Homestead.

• 16:32Speaker 03

  Did you, you have one brother who's, who's, um, I believe.

• 16:36Jessie Ware?

  Two brothers.

• 16:37Speaker 03

  Two brothers.

• 16:37Speaker 04

  I had two. There were four of us originally. There's a sister, my sister Pam, two years younger than I am, is still in Los Angeles. Wonderful painter, wonderful person, um, and woman. And then I had two older brothers, two older brothers. Lee was five years older than I am and now I'm. I'm seventy three and he was, he died when he was sixty sevenish. Yeah, yeah, thank you so much. And he, you know, he, he, he died when he was sixty seven. My other brother, who's four years older than I was, was Rick. He died when he was twenty three.

• 17:10Speaker 03

  I know, I read that.

• 17:11Speaker 04

  You might have read, yeah. He was, he was a great, he was a hero of mine and we were close. He turned me on to music and the Beatles, in fact, about whom I was talking today and many things. He was gonna be a writer maybe, although I'm twenty three, so young. And then he was traveling around kinda adventurously in North Africa. Agadir, Casablanca.

• 17:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 17:29Speaker 04

  And got a quick thing.

• 17:31Speaker 03

  Oh, God.

• 17:32Speaker 04

  I was in, just in New York seventeen, you know, or something and.

• 17:36Speaker 03

  You got something.

• 17:37Speaker 04

  Eighteen, nineteen, yes, I was in a show and they called up and.

• 17:41Speaker 03

  I'm so sorry.

• 17:42Speaker 04

  Horrible, yeah, thank you.

• 17:43Speaker 03

  So was your mom a good cook? Was it chicken soup and matzo balls and roast chicken on a Friday night?

• 17:50Speaker 04

  Not, not.

• 17:51Speaker 03

  Not a traditional Jewish?

• 17:52Speaker 04

  Well, not traditionally like that, but you know, we had, they made farfel. Nobody talks about, does anybody, do you know what, you don't, you seem unfamiliar. Farfel is a kind of a traditional Jewish.

• 18:03Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 18:04Speaker 04

  Grain of sorts.

• 18:05Jessie Ware?

  Where's it from?

• 18:06Speaker 03

  It's kind of Ashkenazi, it's an old Ashkenazi farfel, but my mom never made it.

• 18:11Jessie Ware?

  What would you have it with, Jeff?

• 18:13Speaker 04

  What, what did I have it with?

• 18:14Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, what would your mom make it with?

• 18:16Speaker 04

  I don't know, but I remember a day in school, I was a little bit of a fish out of water in school. There weren't others kind of like me in one way or another in school. And I remember at a show and tell project, I brought in a dish of farfel that I think my parents. So it wasn't horribly received, but you know, it was a buttery, it's a kind of a whitish grain, not like, not like kasha.

• 18:38Speaker 03

  No.

• 18:38Speaker 04

  Not like kasha varnish, cause you know, but it's a grain and we put a lot of butter in it and mushrooms. And it was very delicious.

• 18:45Speaker 03

  Delicious.

• 18:45Speaker 04

  Delicious. So, so she made, you know, traditional things like that. And, you know, we had brisket and things like that, but more, yeah.

• 18:54Speaker 03

  Was she a good cook?

• 18:57Speaker 04

  As I remember, cause now it's a while ago, as I remember Shirley Goldblum was.

• 19:02Speaker 03

  Shirley Goldblum.

• 19:03Speaker 04

  Was a, um, yes, yes, she was a, she was an okay cook. I, I, I, I, yeah, she was an okay cook.

• 19:11Jessie Ware?

  You're not telling it to us, Jeff, I have to say. An okay cook? Would your mum have killed you to hear you call?

• 19:18Speaker 04

  She was a foodie. She prided herself on pretending to know about wine.

• 19:25Jessie Ware?

  Sweet. Did you all sit round the dinner table to eat?

• 19:28Speaker 04

  Yes, yes, we did. There were six, you know, there were six of us and my mom was there and my dad was there. I had a steady place like my kids do now at the kind of breakfast, uh, kind of table. I was next to my dad here. This is kind of in the breakfast room so called and, you know, the kids are, oh, oh. Pam, was Pam here? My younger sister and the two boys were there, something like that. Yeah, and we'd go around every night. Yes, and we'd have dinner and she'd make, you know, meatloaf. I know you're gonna ask about, I know, a nostalgic meal, but meatloaf I liked.

• 20:03Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 20:03Speaker 04

  Uh, you know.

• 20:04Speaker 03

  What would she make her meatloaf? Did she use, um, ground turkey or ground beef?

• 20:09Speaker 04

  Ground beef. Ground beef then, you know, this is not the new age.

• 20:13Speaker 03

  The new age of turkey.

• 20:14Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, this is the fifties, sixties. So ground beef and, you know, and I tell you about meat. It's, it's nice that I've kind of staved off meat a little bit now because I've never been into gristle and bone and fat and, and, and really doing something, uh, you know, like that. I always liked a meatball or a meatloaf. I liked when it was ground up or turned into a.

• 20:38Speaker 03

  Looked like it where it had come from. Yeah, I understand.

• 20:41Speaker 04

  Like where's it come from? No, I, I don't like anything that's kind of reminds me of the.

• 20:45Speaker 03

  The person, of the animal, yeah.

• 20:47Speaker 04

  Of the personality of the thing. As soon as I find, so I, I kinda, I'm, I still, I go, you know, I can spit out things. I don't know what you do with it. Thank you so much. Oh, beautiful dishes.

• 20:56Speaker 03

  What, what's your favorite? What, what, did your mum make fish? Did she make gefilte fish chopped and fried?

• 21:02Speaker 04

  She didn't make gefilte fish, but we, you know, we, we, we, we had gefilte fish around. I think you got it in what was it, Manischewitz or you get.

• 21:09Speaker 03

  Manischewitz, yeah.

• 21:10Speaker 04

  You get the, in the jar. Yeah, and borscht, you know.

• 21:13Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 21:14Speaker 04

  I remember the first time I had really homemade, really borscht in New York.

• 21:17Speaker 03

  Gorgeous, yeah.

• 21:18Speaker 04

  I moved to New York after Pittsburgh, you know, that's, that's something. But we'd have it and, you know, stuff like that around. But, but, but you know what I liked on all, it's the question to what really makes me nostalgic. It's the answer to that question. It's she had spaghetti bolognese. So I like, as you can tell, bolognese, so you know, meat like that, which isn't a tomato.

• 21:38Speaker 03

  I love spaghetti bolognese.

• 21:39Speaker 04

  I love it. And then spaghetti, whatever that was, whatever that spaghetti was. But I remember in a particular, very particular, green translucent kind of bowl, big bowl. And that with, with Kraft Parmesan cheese that you're gonna put it on. I, I, I loved that.

• 21:54Speaker 03

  It was delicious, yeah.

• 21:55Speaker 04

  I thought that was great. I thought that was great. My dad was a kind of simple, simple man. He prided himself where she was a little, the wine and showy, you know. She was, she was kind of a little showy, but vivacious, you know, and delightful. My dad would like simple things.

• 22:12Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 22:13Speaker 04

  He was a kind, he was a doctor, but he was an authentic kind of simple guy.

• 22:17Speaker 03

  What sort of doctor was he?

• 22:18Speaker 04

  Internist.

• 22:19Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 22:19Speaker 04

  We're kind of a family doctor and he'd have a bag, he had a bag back then and he would go make house calls and, you know, stuff like that. He was a good doctor and I think his pa, his patients loved him. But he liked, you know, a hamburger, just a plain hamburger and a, and a tomato. That's what he liked and sliced tomato, you know, that's what he liked. But I, I like everything. We'll get into food, but I like everything. Oh, I remember something she made is potato salad. She made a good potato salad.

• 22:45Speaker 03

  We need to know what she put in it.

• 22:47Speaker 04

  It was probably nothing special, but potatoes and, which were not too al dente. I to this day don't like vegetables of all kinds, even potatoes that are too hard. And even broccoli and carrots and Brussels sprouts. Give me something mushier, maybe not too mushy, but mushier. And, oh, so the potatoes were, you know, on the nice, tender side with mayonnaise.

• 23:12Speaker 03

  Did she put gherkins in or capers?

• 23:15Speaker 04

  Not capers, not capers. By the way, I want to talk to you about capers and the difference between little capers and one of the big capers called.

• 23:21Speaker 03

  I love the big, oh. Caper berries? Caper berries.

• 23:24Speaker 04

  Caper berries.

• 23:25Speaker 03

  Not into it.

• 23:28Speaker 04

  Ah, you know, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll bite one, but not so into it. You know what I really don't like? And I, and this is, the headline is, I'm easy to please and I like everything and I'm adventurous and I've tried everything.

• 23:38Jessie Ware?

  You could have fooled me, Jeff.

• 23:39Speaker 03

  Yeah, me too.

• 23:39Speaker 04

  You know what I don't like, but, but I am getting kind of fussy and kind of particular. You know what I don't like so much? This may upset everybody.

• 23:46Jessie Ware?

  What?

• 23:46Speaker 04

  Sun dried tomatoes. What don't I like about sun dried tomatoes?

• 23:51Speaker 03

  They're very strong taste.

• 23:52Speaker 04

  It's a strong taste that I'm not crazy about and that texture, I'm not crazy about.

• 23:58Jessie Ware?

  You don't like the chew?

• 23:59Speaker 04

  I don't like that chew.

• 24:00Speaker 03

  I agree. They can overpower a dish.

• 24:02Jessie Ware?

  You said the same thing the other day when I put them in something.

• 24:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, and I took them out.

• 24:06Speaker 04

  I'm not crazy, but you know what else I have a very strong opinion about? I like anchovies, but

• 24:10Speaker 03

  Me too.

• 24:11Speaker 04

  There are two different kinds of anchovies. There's the white and the brown. I love the brown. I discovered it in Pittsburgh when I was young. Ooh, salty. I ate a whole tin of it. The white are kind of fishy. I like fish.

• 24:21Jessie Ware?

  Fatier ones. The fattier ones you don't like, like croquembouche.

• 24:24Speaker 03

  They pickle them kind of more than oil.

• 24:26Speaker 04

  I like pickled things, but I don't like those white anchovies.

• 24:30Jessie Ware?

  I'm now feeling quite anxious. I'm giving you fish for...

• 24:32Speaker 04

  I love fish. I'm a fish, I, I, I...

• 24:34Jessie Ware?

  Well, you're a pescatarian, aren't you? Dairy free pescatarian.

• 24:37Speaker 04

  One might say, you know, I've, I've sort of advertised it since, um, well, like I've already said, you know, me, you know, personality in the food turns me off. I don't want to pick, I don't want bones in the fish. Sorry if I'm asking being too demanding.

• 24:52Jessie Ware?

  A loin of cod, so we're fine.

• 24:54Speaker 04

  I don't want to see that. I don't want to see the head on the fish and, um, and meat. Like I don't, I, I really don't want bones. Chicken, poultry, you know, I don't want bones. But my kids are not the same. My kids are like, you know, maybe all kids are, maybe they'll grow out of it, but I don't remember ever being like that. They will take a bone and leave it clean.

• 25:11Speaker 03

  Sure, yeah.

• 25:11Speaker 04

  And they'll take, they like a lobster when we're able to have a lobster and they like to, they pride themselves on, yes, on doing things with it. I don't want to do anything with it. I don't want to have any task and I don't like, I don't want any detritus. I don't want any shell. I don't, you know, et cetera, et cetera.

• 25:27Jessie Ware?

  But the, the thing of being a pescatarian came from wicked, right?

• 25:30Speaker 04

  That's what I was gonna say. Oh, so besides being kind of fussy about my, you know, animal, eating animals. Yes, the idea of being nice to creatures is kind of appealing to me. And since I played this sort of not so nice character, the wizard in this Wicked, who facilitates animal cruelty in a bad way and sets Elphaba Cynthia Revo against me. You know, I turned over a leaf and I think they're both vegetarian and I kind of, and besides, my doctor said, I think it's better if you stay off the red meat and this and that for one reason or another. So I've been pescatarian and off the dairy and off a couple of other things. Although, to tell the truth, these days, if I have a hankering for something, I'll

• 26:15Speaker 04

  allow myself to get a little protein of one kind or another.

• 26:19Jessie Ware?

  Can I feed you this, please?

• 26:21Speaker 04

  You know, yes, please. That's the loveliest offer and I know, I knew I was in for this and I'm so excited and grateful and appreciative already. Wait a minute, I don't even know what this is.

• 26:32Jessie Ware?

  Okay, sorry.

• 26:33Speaker 04

  I smelled it as soon as I came in the door, I smelled something delicious.

• 26:36Jessie Ware?

  So this is from my friend Georgina Hayden's cookbook, Medesque, and it is cod baked with fennel and olives and what else is in there? Yes, so great.

• 26:49Speaker 03

  He loves solives, you're all right.

• 26:50Jessie Ware?

  Thank God, because it's nearly as big as the caper berry. And then we're doing it with couscous with a bit of pistachio and coriander and then a very nice green salad with a shallot vinegar.

• 27:00Speaker 04

  That's fantastic.

• 27:01Jessie Ware?

  Great, okay, good.

• 27:02Speaker 04

  I'm very excited.

• 27:03Jessie Ware?

  I just hope that the cod is cooked, this is my fear, but I think it's cooked. And if it's not, I'll put it back in.

• 27:08Speaker 04

  Whatever you're like, oh, there it is.

• 27:10Jessie Ware?

  There it is.

• 27:10Speaker 04

  There it is in that skillet, in that, what do you call that, an iron?

• 27:13Jessie Ware?

  A little le cruse, isn't it? Like, what is it?

• 27:17Speaker 04

  You're so, look, my mouth is doing something funny already. It looks fantastic, pleasing to the eye as well as to the palate.

• 27:23Jessie Ware?

  Okay, good, fine. Do you want some salad?

• 27:26Speaker 04

  I love salad.

• 27:27Jessie Ware?

  Are you like the French, they have it after the meal?

• 27:29Speaker 04

  No.

• 27:30Speaker 03

  You like it with?

• 27:31Speaker 04

  I do.

• 27:32Jessie Ware?

  Help yourself to some salad.

• 27:34Speaker 04

  Oh, my gosh. And can I have salad on a separate plate? Because I'd put it in here, but if I had my druthers, if I'm really asking, you don't have to comply.

• 27:43Jessie Ware?

  No, I think you're right.

• 27:44Speaker 04

  But I do, I do like dessert. Yes, I like everything together. As a matter of fact, they don't like us in, well, they do. But in Italy, when I say, oh, bring it all together, you know, they say first course, second course. No, no, no. Give, give, give it all. Oh, thank you so much. Give, give it to me all together. I'll have the fish and the pasta together. And as a matter of fact, listen to this, heretical, is that the right word? Idea. I like to have dessert at the same time.

• 28:07Jessie Ware?

  Oh.

• 28:07Speaker 04

  Sometime. You don't have to do it today.

• 28:09Jessie Ware?

  I'm not doing that.

• 28:10Speaker 04

  But, but I go, that's why I like room service. I say, no, no, don't save the ice, don't save the sorbet till later. Bring it up now, because I will go savory, savory, sweet, back to savory. Then I'll have a little dessert and then, isn't that crazy?

• 28:24Jessie Ware?

  That's um.

• 28:25Speaker 04

  But it becomes even more radical because at home sometimes I go into the refrigerator when I'm not trying to be more human.

• 28:31Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 28:31Speaker 04

  Like a human being, like I'm being trained to be now. Um, I take everything out of the refrigerator at the same time. I just take it all out. And sometimes my wife says, don't you want to heat it up? I say, no, no, that's okay. And so I take it all out. Although I'm getting fussy about leftovers.

• 28:46Jessie Ware?

  Is she a good cook? Oh, are you? I wanted to interview you.

• 28:48Speaker 04

  Yeah, a little bit. Um, she is a good cook and she goes on, on Instagram and posts herself making things and inventing things and following cookbooks and, and sharing recipes. She's very health. Uh, she's conscious and oriental and she wants our kids to be healthy. So, yes, and she's very good. Uh, she makes pancakes in the morning.

• 29:12Jessie Ware?

  Does she?

• 29:12Speaker 04

  And waffles. And yes, my, you know what my son makes for me? He's very helpful and they like to give gifts. They're very generous. My son Charlie is very helpful and capable in many ways, makes, uh, these days, as of a couple of months ago, uh, matcha tea.

• 29:31Jessie Ware?

  Matcha tea?

• 29:32Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 29:32Jessie Ware?

  Why?

• 29:33Speaker 04

  With oat milk.

• 29:33Jessie Ware?

  Don't eat that yet. I forgot to put an ingredient in. Oh.

• 29:36Speaker 04

  It's good. With, uh, oh, you took a plate too. With, um,

• 29:39Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 29:39Speaker 04

  With a little oat milk, which I kind of like now foamy. I'm crazy about it. I'm staying off the caffeine.

• 29:46Jessie Ware?

  What is this?

• 29:47Speaker 04

  I'm very excited about seeing you guys. Excuse me if I'm too chatty.

• 29:50Jessie Ware?

  No, I love this. Don't. This was supposed to be cooked with it, but you're just gonna have to have a bit of vinegar now. That's so. Annoying that I forgot to do that.

• 29:58Speaker 03

  I the less than that you've put on.

• 30:00Speaker 04

  I have a very sensitive sniffer. All this is already doing something to me.

• 30:04Jessie Ware?

  Okay, fine.

• 30:05Speaker 04

  Sometimes if I'm not allowed to eat something, you know what suffices smelling it.

• 30:10Jessie Ware?

  I may have just put too much vinegar in your thing now.

• 30:12Speaker 04

  I love it. Oh, that looks great. Okay, I'm tasting this salad.

• 30:17Speaker 03

  Delicious, Jess.

• 30:19Speaker 04

  I appreciate a good salad. That's simple and fantastic. The dressing, the.

• 30:23Jessie Ware?

  I know.

• 30:24Speaker 04

  What do you call it? Shalat?

• 30:25Speaker 03

  Shalat, yeah, shallots, yeah, shallots. You call it shallots?

• 30:28Speaker 04

  We say shallots.

• 30:29Speaker 03

  Do you need salt?

• 30:30Jessie Ware?

  There is salt and there's pepper.

• 30:33Speaker 04

  It's got protein and carbs. I always look for a kind of a, if I have just. Yeah, I look for a balance. And this, this couscous is fantastic.

• 30:41Jessie Ware?

  Great.

• 30:41Speaker 04

  Let me, wait a minute. Is that gar- garlic?

• 30:45Jessie Ware?

  I don't know, is it?

• 30:46Speaker 04

  Let me see.

• 30:48Jessie Ware?

  Is it fennel?

• 30:49Speaker 04

  I think it's garlic.

• 30:49Jessie Ware?

  Oh, it's garlic?

• 30:51Speaker 04

  And I love a, I love garlic. I like raw garlic, but I like, um, I like a cooked garlic. That's fantastic.

• 30:57Speaker 03

  Can I ask you?

• 30:58Speaker 04

  You must.

• 30:59Speaker 03

  Where you met your wife? How does an actor meet a contortionist?

• 31:03Speaker 04

  Here's what happened. Hmm. I was working out, as I still do on a daily basis, if I, if I can. And, um, I went to the gym that day, fourteen years ago, on Sunset Boulevard, you know, the Equinox there.

• 31:16Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 31:16Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 31:17Speaker 04

  And, um, and I saw her there. She happened to be there in the sliding doors way, you know, like what if, uh, this hadn't happened. Her sister had just had a baby. So the day we met, her sister had her first baby, who's now fourteen years old. And she otherwise would have been working out in the afternoon, but she was for some reason there in the morning when I showed up. It was kismet, it was a bishert. And then we, um, do you speak English?

• 31:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, of course.

• 31:43Speaker 04

  And then, um, and then I went over to her and said, what are you doing? Because she was.

• 31:47Speaker 03

  Was she doing a few?

• 31:48Jessie Ware?

  I bet she was really impressive.

• 31:49Speaker 04

  She was not showing off. She was there to kind of do her stuff.

• 31:52Speaker 03

  And did she do a few contortions?

• 31:57Speaker 04

  Called for, you know, skin the cats and meat hooks.

• 31:59Jessie Ware?

  Oh, yeah.

• 32:01Speaker 04

  I wish, which her, she's hanging and she does pull ups and she was hanging.

• 32:05Jessie Ware?

  Skin the cat is really hard. It's like calisthenic stuff, yeah.

• 32:09Speaker 04

  And her legs are going near, uh, near by her face and over there very slowly. And then they're going here and she's, she's hanging by the, and then she's doing something, you know.

• 32:18Jessie Ware?

  And what were you doing?

• 32:20Speaker 03

  Watching.

• 32:22Jessie Ware?

  Which which apparatus were you on?

• 32:23Speaker 03

  Doing nothing darling, you was enchanted.

• 32:26Speaker 04

  I was trying to do do that, I do a little cardio and a little standard weightlifting. And then I saw her her do this and um yeah.

• 32:34Speaker 03

  So you went over.

• 32:36Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 32:36Speaker 03

  Oh my goodness.

• 32:38Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 32:38Speaker 03

  So what was the opening line, Joe?

• 32:41Speaker 04

  I think I said something like, you know, I have no formulaic, I'm not trying to pick anybody up. But I said, you know, just, you know, jeez, you, what, this is so interesting. What are you, what are you, what are you doing? You must be a.

• 32:52Speaker 03

  A contortionist.

• 32:53Jessie Ware?

  Nastropan.

• 32:55Speaker 04

  And you know, she, you know, and we struck up a conversation.

• 32:58Speaker 03

  So no, back to great.

• 32:59Speaker 04

  She didn't know who I was, by the way, she said, I said, uh, my name.

• 33:02Jessie Ware?

  She'd never seen Jurassic Park.

• 33:03Speaker 04

  No, no, she'd never seen anything.

• 33:04Jessie Ware?

  Never seen the fly.

• 33:05Speaker 04

  No, she was very.

• 33:06Speaker 03

  Did she know who you were?

• 33:07Speaker 04

  No, she did not know. And I said my whole name, not in a way that I thought was um, but I said, you know, hi, Jeff Goldblum. What, what, you know, I wasn't trying to go on Jeff Goldblum. I I I went Jeff Goldblum and she went hello, but you know, we kind of hit it off outside of that, even though she didn't know. And then um, yeah, that was it.

• 33:26Speaker 03

  Well, you've got to use what you've got. Jeff Goldblum's a pretty impressive introduction.

• 33:31Speaker 04

  I don't know about that. And uh, but uh, yeah, that was it. Oh, and then what did I say? Oh, yeah, no, yeah, I said, what are you doing? Yeah, that's it. The first date really was when we talked, we said, I said, give me your number, let's be in touch. And she said, I said, you know, I, did I say then, I might have said, you know, I've been teaching acting. She said, well, I'm taking acting lessons and I said, you know, I.

• 33:51Jessie Ware?

  I'd love to teach you.

• 33:52Speaker 04

  I think I did, that's probably, yeah, not not attractive sounding, but I did. I think I did say at some point, you know, she said, yeah, I'm working on things in class. My, I said, if you need, you know, I want things that might be enjoyable, or maybe we could do that or, you know. And um, but before she came over to my house in a few days to work on that ostensibly, uh, she said, this very night, I'm dancing in a, I'm performing. I said, I, I, may I come to see you? Yes, so that night, uncharacteristically, I was usually in bed early. She was starting kinda late and I kind of found myself driving along. Did you go on your own? Huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah, just on my own. That's really brave. Yeah, and you know, I said, wow, I, yeah, I was, well, she, you know, love makes you brave. Yeah.

• 34:36Speaker 04

  I guess, and, um, and then I said, well, I'm performing in a couple of days from now at this gig. And she said, let me come see you. And she did a couple of days later. That was the next thing that happened and our band was playing and she was there. And then I dared her to get up and do a routine on top of the piano, which she does now, but she did it at that point. And she said, yeah, I'll do it. And she, I cleared off the things on the piano and she did this amazing thing. Uh, that was that date. And then a couple of days after that, she came over to maybe work on her monologue or something. But one thing led to another quickly. I gave her a tour of the house, actually. And, um, I said, look, you can see, let me, let's go up in the hill. I'll show you this bench up there. Let's sit on the bench.

• 35:20Speaker 04

  And, um, and look, you can see from here, the Capitol Records building. That's, you know. Oh, I love that building. Isn't that a great building? That's where we did our first record, where we did. But at that point, we hadn't even done it. I said, look, isn't that a great looking building? And as she said, and I, I remember, uh, she said, I said, look over there. And she, she went, wasn't a trick, but she went and as I, I saw the corner of her mouth right here, but still I find irresistible. And, and she, and when she turned back around, I. You moved in. I moved in. Well done. That was the, and then I'll stop right there with the details. Okay, okay. But, um, but that's what happened. I know my, my current favorite joke, which you see, I never get tired and see, and the

• 36:03Speaker 04

  family does, is that I switched the whole story around. And for the kids' benefit, I said, whenever anybody makes a, this is gonna sound awful, some kind of thing that could be turned into a double entendre. Um, I say, well, that's what you said when you first came over to the house. I went, what did, what does that mean? She said, I'll show you. You know, I do some, some version of the story where she's very aggressive and I'm the, you know, innocent. You'll be innocent. Yes, and then I'm being set upon. And then we said, what do you kids, who do you believe? And she goes, that's not true. I never did that, et cetera, et cetera. That's our favorite joke.

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• 37:18Speaker 03

  What would be your last supper? Your start and main dessert drink of choice?

• 37:23Speaker 04

  I know. I'm gonna tell you. Well, it's not, I've heard you say it's not, don't worry, it's not, you're not being executed.

• 37:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, you're not.

• 37:29Speaker 04

  It's not because you're on death row. But I like that movie. Do you know Monsieur Verdoux? The Charlie Chaplin movie where he speaks? It's in black and white, Martha Ray's in it. I like it a lot. And at the end of that movie...

• 37:39Speaker 03

  Is that like the only movie that Charlie Chaplin speaks in?

• 37:41Speaker 04

  He speaks in a couple.

• 37:42Speaker 03

  Yeah, okay.

• 37:43Speaker 04

  The Great Dictator, he speaks in, and he speaks in a few of them. But I like that movie. And he's murdered some of his wives or something like that. And he's going to be executed. And just before he does, they go, would you like a... They're leading him to the...

• 37:59Speaker 03

  Gallows.

• 38:00Speaker 04

  ...gast chamber, the gallows. And they, would you like to have a drink of something? I forget what it is. And he goes, he's already, you know, lost in deep thought of some kind and about this moment. And he goes, no, no. He goes, wait a minute, I've never, I've never tasted that. Let me taste it. He goes, hm.

• 38:23Speaker 04

  He just wants to taste something that he's never tasted before, just before he goes. So in a way, I kinda like that moment, that movie. In a way... My personality is such that I like to be surprised. If I, even a piece of music or a book, if I could read, I go, and when I go to restaurants, I kind of go, you recommend it, surprise me, you choose.

• 38:44Jessie Ware?

  But sometimes that doesn't work out well.

• 38:46Speaker 04

  Yeah, I know.

• 38:47Jessie Ware?

  I do this too.

• 38:48Speaker 04

  But I, I kind of, I kind of like that. So I wouldn't mind being surprised. That's one answer.

• 38:53Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 38:53Speaker 04

  The other answer is, you know, if there is love cooked into food, if, if who cooks it and how it's cooked has something to do with it, which I think does, I wouldn't mind if it was gonna be the last, if I wasn't gonna see them or her again, I'd have my wife's pancakes or waffles. That's another answer. If you want the usual interpretation of this answer, what's my favorite food?

• 39:16Jessie Ware?

  Yeah. Starter.

• 39:19Speaker 04

  Which is also difficult because I, I love pasta, I love pizza, I love sandwiches.

• 39:26Jessie Ware?

  Oh, you love sandwiches.

• 39:28Speaker 04

  Oh, my God.

• 39:28Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 39:29Speaker 04

  Many, many different kinds of sandwiches and ones that I've never had. I like to try new, but if I had to pick, recently, I had a meal that I thought was pretty fantastic, and that's, there was a sushi place in, um, in LA. It's called Sushi Park.

• 39:45Jessie Ware?

  I've been there. So good.

• 39:47Speaker 04

  It's a little bit, it's, it's expensive, but they're.

• 39:49Jessie Ware?

  Is that where you take the mortgage out before you go in?

• 39:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, it's, it's expensive.

• 39:53Jessie Ware?

  Benny found a more expensive one than that. Yeah.

• 39:56Speaker 04

  Yeah, but it's, it's modest looking. It's a little, it's at a mini mall upstairs. But, but what they do is special, and I believe, you know, you know, commensurate with what they're charging you, and what it is, is they're very sophisticated, and they've chosen this fish, or however they do it, and each morsel.

• 40:12Jessie Ware?

  It's beautiful.

• 40:13Speaker 04

  Is not only beautiful, but they go, here, this soy sauce on this, and no soy sauce on that, and each one you go.

• 40:20Jessie Ware?

  Oh, I know. Omami.

• 40:23Speaker 04

  God.

• 40:23Jessie Ware?

  No, it's not just omami, there's like, you, there's like tang on it, it's beautiful.

• 40:28Speaker 04

  Yes, they put different things on it, and it's the different fish.

• 40:31Jessie Ware?

  Do you like sushi generally?

• 40:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, uh, well, early on, I discovered it when it was kind of making its, um, debut back, I was doing a Broadway show in, the first one I ever did in New York in the early seventies, and the chorus, I was in the chorus, and the dancers said, hey, let's go, there's a new Japanese sushi, what's that?

• 40:52Speaker 04

  I don't know, but it's in Times Square here and we went and I was like, this is great. I loved it, you know, some kind of bowl of rice and fish. I, I, I thought that was great. And so often for the next decades, I would go have sushi. These days, because it can get a little, cause I've now known what really good sushi is. And it can get a little regular and standard and a little untrustworthy, uh, which I'm, uh, nervous about. Uh, it's okay, but I wouldn't choose it right away. I don't have to have it.

• 41:19Speaker 03

  Do your kids like it?

• 41:21Speaker 04

  Yeah, they do.

• 41:22Speaker 03

  All children like sushi.

• 41:23Speaker 04

  I took Charlie, just the two of us on a little field trip. The two of us were together, you know, I say you should sometimes divvy it up and take, have a one-on-one thing. We went to, what's it called? Clap? Here in London?

• 41:34Speaker 03

  Clap?

• 41:34Speaker 04

  Is it called Clap? It's a, yeah, it's a sushi, we're kind of high-end sushi with kind of, you know, uh, and he loved that. We had a great time there. And then we take him to, um, places there that they love. Yeah, they like it. They like it a lot.

• 41:47Jessie Ware?

  I was listening to your off-menu. We love those boys.

• 41:51Speaker 04

  Those, those, those are guys are fun, I think.

• 41:52Jessie Ware?

  Um, and at that's.

• 41:54Speaker 04

  You know how I like to talk about food.

• 41:55Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, but like at that stage, I don't think you'd shown your boys Jurassic Park.

• 42:00Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 42:00Jessie Ware?

  Now, we're recording this on a Friday and we try and do like a movie night with our kids. Um, I've got three.

• 42:08Speaker 04

  I want to talk all about that, cause I, I love to show movies.

• 42:10Jessie Ware?

  And it, and it's always that thing where I want them to see some old films. I mean, they don't feel old to me, but you know, so whether it's an E.T. or, you know, like nostalgic films from.

• 42:18Speaker 03

  Have they seen E.T. yet?

• 42:19Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, they loved it.

• 42:21Speaker 04

  Which, which?

• 42:21Jessie Ware?

  E.T.

• 42:22Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I showed ours E.T. and Close and Converge.

• 42:25Jessie Ware?

  Jurassic Park is something that I feel you've got to get it right when you show it to them. Because I've got a four-year-old who thinks he's a big shot, but I've also got, it's too early for him.

• 42:36Speaker 04

  Yep, I know. When we first did that movie and we went on the publicity tour and nobody had seen any of those movies yet. They said, you know, this may be too tough for kids and you should be, we should be vocal about and conspicuously lay our cards on the table and say, parents, you should screen it first and case-by-case basis, assess your kid's ability to take this. In all the years, I, young kids come up to me and I've never seen one go, it was too frightening. They love it. And I go. The parents still, it wasn't, did you get scared? No, no, no, no, no. So.

• 43:05Jessie Ware?

  So have you shown your boys yet?

• 43:07Speaker 04

  I've sho- yes, I showed my boys, they weren't scared at that so much. I've showed them some other things that I, or they've happened their way in, they've stuck their way into a couple of things that are pretty radical and probably too advanced for them. And when it gets scary, we showed them in fact, Hitchcock's The Birds.

• 43:25Jessie Ware?

  Oh, God.

• 43:26Speaker 04

  Cause I like the birds and I wanted to, I thought, ah, they said, yeah, we could, we could take anything. We're big shots and we, we, we like scary. What's the scariest movie you're saying? So I thought that that's kind of vintage, it's not so. And they were into it and but then there's a scene where the guy's eyes are pecked out and they were like, turn it off, turn it off. So they're not afraid to say, turn it off. So that's okay. I showed them The Elephant Man.

• 43:46Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 43:46Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 43:47Speaker 04

  Which is heavy stuff, but I think the theme is kind of wholesome. Uh, but at some point they had to back away.

• 43:55Jessie Ware?

  Have they seen your Marvel films?

• 43:58Speaker 04

  Yes, you know, they like Thor Ragnarok, they think I'm funny in that, you know, they like that.

• 44:01Speaker 03

  But they must have loved Wicked.

• 44:03Speaker 04

  And they liked Wicked. I took them to the stage show, I was crying again like a baby and then they were on the set and met the ladies who were very nice to them. And then they saw it, yeah, yeah.

• 44:13Jessie Ware?

  I loved Wicked.

• 44:15Speaker 04

  You do?

• 44:15Speaker 03

  We all loved it, yeah.

• 44:16Jessie Ware?

  And I wasn't a person that grew up on Wicked. It was never, so I went to go and see it in the play, at the play before I saw the film. Cause I was so excited about the casting of the movie. Like it was, it was so exciting. And to be able to hear Cynthia, I mean, Anna Ariana, like sing those songs.

• 44:34Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 44:34Jessie Ware?

  Um, and my kids, we were, we were all trying to do like the war cry. Uh, that, uh, yeah, and like we'd all have a go on those stairs and like, it was, it made my kids really feel something. So they're gonna be so excited that they've had.

• 44:50Speaker 04

  How old were they at the time?

• 44:51Jessie Ware?

  Um, the wizard here. And they were, probably my youngest was three. He says, he said, wake me up when the monkeys have gone. I said, fine. So we got rid of the monkeys there and then it was fine.

• 45:01Speaker 04

  Right.

• 45:02Jessie Ware?

  Um, yeah, probably about eight and six.

• 45:04Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 45:05Jessie Ware?

  Because you like eating dessert with your mains, I'm gonna have to get it out, cause you've got to go.

• 45:09Speaker 04

  Let's go, I mean, and, and.

• 45:10Speaker 03

  It needs to go in the bowl, sweetheart.

• 45:12Speaker 04

  You don't have to wait till I'm finished. And I should just stop because I would keep, I would keep eating, cause I saved my appetite, although I had a nice breakfast.

• 45:20Jessie Ware?

  What did you have?

• 45:21Speaker 04

  I like this breakfast at the hotel I'm at, I won't mention the name, but it's a very nice hotel and they do, I'm a connoisseur of breakfast and hotel breakfasts. Oh, they did, I had an egg white omelet with spinach and mozzarella cheese. I've been trying to stay away from cheese, but I had mozzarella cheese. I said, give me a cheese that can really melt and be part of the omelet. I don't like those omelets that open up and it's like a book and you see some ingredients there, you know, just sitting there, uh, separate from the thing. I like the cheese. So I had that with some Tabasco sauce and some sourdough bread with some salt and butter. And then I had a Virgin Mary that I traded off with a fresh squeezed orange juice. And then I had some porridge made with oat milk with some seeds and some berries on it, some honey. And a decaf cappuccino.

• 46:05Jessie Ware?

  Do you actually like the egg white omelet or is it for health?

• 46:08Speaker 04

  Well.

• 46:10Jessie Ware?

  Cause.

• 46:10Speaker 04

  It's kind of, they say I should be doing it for health these days, but, but wise minds disagree. Uh, every year or every week, yeah, you should eat the yolk. No, you shouldn't eat the yolk.

• 46:21Jessie Ware?

  I know, it's so annoying.

• 46:22Speaker 04

  Milk is good, no, milk is not good. You know, everything is always changing, so.

• 46:26Speaker 03

  Darling, we need spoons as well.

• 46:29Speaker 04

  I don't, I, I mean, the, oh, that looked great.

• 46:32Speaker 03

  I hope so.

• 46:32Speaker 04

  I see some lychee nuts in there that I heard Bill Nye talking about, it looks like eyeballs.

• 46:36Jessie Ware?

  Some people like lychee, some don't.

• 46:38Speaker 04

  I love them.

• 46:39Speaker 03

  So this is a tropical fruit salad that my beloved cousin used to make with stem ginger and light cheese in it.

• 46:45Speaker 04

  With stem ginger?

• 46:46Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, do you know what stem ginger is? It's kind of candied ginger.

• 46:50Speaker 03

  It's ginger that.

• 46:51Speaker 04

  Candied, I love anything, I love food poetry. I love, you know, candied, anything sounds good to me.

• 46:57Speaker 03

  Well, it's done, it's just all different tropical foods and it's got light cheese and it's got stem ginger in, which is, it comes in a little syrup in little balls and then I chop them up.

• 47:09Jessie Ware?

  I do feel like if I gave you a piece of sliced white bread, you would make like.

• 47:14Speaker 03

  It would be poetic.

• 47:15Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, you would make it poetic.

• 47:17Speaker 04

  I am passionate about food and I'm grateful for any food stuffs I get. And I'm easy to please and I'm, I'm very enthusiastic. My wife always says, hey, I'm glad I can cook and is it okay? Okay, I say, it's, you know, and I'm not kidding. I'm very appreciative. I serve you first.

• 47:32Speaker 03

  No, you serve yourself.

• 47:33Speaker 04

  I couldn't, isn't that unchivalrous?

• 47:35Speaker 03

  Because I think you need a, a, a, a, a start on us to.

• 47:41Speaker 04

  I'm a, I'm a lingerer, so here, I'm a malinger, okay.

• 47:45Jessie Ware?

  Did we ever get the last supper? Did we even get one?

• 47:47Speaker 04

  I'm going to, so the last supper, yes, I said.

• 47:49Jessie Ware?

  We've got sushi part.

• 47:50Speaker 04

  Well, here, first of all, a starter, if you're by your, your formula, the starter, I would say, do you know, when I first eat, if I'm, my appetite is up, do you know that first bite you take of anything is always like the best thing? The starter is like, oh, what did you like the best about the meal was the starter, because I was ready for it. And your mouth does something differently if it's that first bite. So I wouldn't want to waste the whole meal and ruin the others, the others on eating too much. So it would be something small, and I like a surprise, like I say, you know, hey, this is on the house. Can you, this is to start a little, what is it? Oh, it's a little, you know, mm. You know, whatever that is, I mean, you know, if I'm having sushi later, I wouldn't want it to be fish. I love all soups. I could love a small bowl of soup.

• 48:36Speaker 04

  Any kind of soup, you know, I love all, so many, many kinds of soups, um, you know, um, but hey, I'm gonna tell you something.

• 48:44Jessie Ware?

  Oh, yeah.

• 48:44Speaker 04

  I like hot things that are hot. I mean, temperature wise. I like food these days to be hot, and even if I have a plate of pasta, the first, excuse me, the first few bites, if they're hot, are good. And then I don't stop because it's probably still delicious, but I really want to stop after it loses its heat.

• 49:04Jessie Ware?

  You can finish that because bloody, it's probably freezing cold now, Jeff.

• 49:07Speaker 04

  It was absolutely lovely. And like I say, I can take things out of the refrigerator, not heat them up. But really, I like hot food. So soup, if I see, I've had a miso soup a tad to go. This is what, this is what I don't know, a miso soup, uh, and it's kind of tepid, and I'm like, this is like dishwater, why am I, why, why am I?

• 49:27Speaker 03

  You want to burn the roof of your mouth?

• 49:30Speaker 04

  Just shorten that, just shorten that. I don't, I've been burned, I don't like to be burned. Or I don't like to bite my lip or tongue. You ever do that?

• 49:37Jessie Ware?

  No.

• 49:37Speaker 03

  It's worse, isn't it?

• 49:38Speaker 04

  It's horrible. I don't like that.

• 49:39Jessie Ware?

  And it really just sneaks up on you.

• 49:41Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 49:41Jessie Ware?

  You never know when it's gonna happen. Like jaws.

• 49:44Speaker 04

  It's not your, your technique. It's not something that's sticking out. No, sometimes, oh.

• 49:48Jessie Ware?

  I know.

• 49:49Speaker 04

  Ow.

• 49:50Jessie Ware?

  I know.

• 49:50Speaker 04

  Yeah. Terrible, terrible. But I've never luckily broken a tooth on an unpopped piece of corn.

• 49:57Jessie Ware?

  Oh, don't talk to mum about teeth.

• 49:59Speaker 03

  Venieres.

• 50:00Jessie Ware?

  Hers come out.

• 50:01Speaker 04

  I have a couple of veneers. Oh, really? Sometimes.

• 50:03Speaker 03

  They pop off, yeah.

• 50:05Speaker 04

  Oh, I know what you mean. I never had a cavity or filling.

• 50:09Jessie Ware?

  Oh, I show off.

• 50:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, I know.

• 50:11Jessie Ware?

  So basically, Jeff.

• 50:12Speaker 04

  Yes, ma'am. And this is delicious, by the way. So your cousin.

• 50:15Speaker 03

  It's tasty, isn't it?

• 50:15Speaker 04

  Oh, it's delicious.

• 50:17Jessie Ware?

  Can you taste the ginger?

• 50:18Speaker 03

  Just a little.

• 50:19Speaker 04

  I love ginger, by the way. That's what I love about Japanese. I love that ginger, whatever that is. It's great.

• 50:24Jessie Ware?

  I don't think, I, I think from what I'm gathering, for the last supper, you'd have a little bit of this. You'd have a surprise. You'd have a soup. You'd have a hot soup. You would have a few bites of the hot pasta.

• 50:37Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 50:37Jessie Ware?

  Yes.

• 50:37Speaker 04

  Good idea.

• 50:38Jessie Ware?

  Okay. And where are we going for the pudding?

• 50:40Speaker 04

  For the what?

• 50:41Jessie Ware?

  The pudding. Oh, uh, dessert.

• 50:43Speaker 04

  You called it putt, pu.

• 50:44Jessie Ware?

  The pudding.

• 50:45Speaker 04

  Pudds, pudds?

• 50:46Jessie Ware?

  Pudding.

• 50:46Speaker 04

  The pudding. Well, you, we can talk. I like language, you know. Pudding. So what do you call pudding? I heard you're talking about pudding, which we have, which is pudding.

• 50:54Jessie Ware?

  I know. Dessert.

• 50:55Speaker 04

  But that's a pudding. You call everything sweet as a pudding. I know.

• 50:58Jessie Ware?

  Do you want a little pudding? Yeah.

• 50:59Speaker 04

  And this you call custard.

• 51:00Jessie Ware?

  Yes.

• 51:00Speaker 04

  I love it. I'd put that on anything. Vanilla sauce or something. I don't know. Custard, we call, is custard. Coconut custard pies to have all the time. I could go for a piece of that. So, yes, I like sweet things. And for dessert, you know, I mean, these days, I mean, I'd take a bite. I like when they bring over the whole tray of them. And they say, here, this is all in the house. Take every dessert in the house. And I go, I try to take one bite of everything, because I have to ta.

• 51:25Jessie Ware?

  To have an opinion.

• 51:26Speaker 04

  I do like to taste things. If my wife has something that only she's ordered, I go, can I, can I ta- taste that? Sometimes she says, I'll, I'll get you one. Yeah, she really does. Sometimes she does.

• 51:37Jessie Ware?

  Oh, don't.

• 51:37Speaker 04

  She's very generous. But some, I go, I really only want to ta. I just want to see what it is.

• 51:41Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 51:41Speaker 04

  I just want to taste it.

• 51:42Jessie Ware?

  That's why I like going for a curry.

• 51:45Speaker 04

  Indian food. I love Indian food. Oh yeah, yes, I like to pick. Well, I like a buffet. I like a buffet where I go, I'll, I'll pick how much and what it is.

• 51:54Speaker 03

  The best one is in Las Vegas, the Win.

• 51:57Speaker 04

  Really?

• 51:57Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 51:58Speaker 04

  What, like a breakfast buffet or everything?

• 52:00Speaker 03

  One and everyone queues because they have snow crab. Which is supposed to be fabulous and everyone queues for it.

• 52:07Jessie Ware?

  What would be your drink of choice?

• 52:08Speaker 04

  Drink.

• 52:09Jessie Ware?

  You're not a big drinker, are you?

• 52:11Speaker 04

  I'm not a boozer, you know, um, no, as a matter of fact, I'm like a kid. If it's like alcohol, I'm like, oh, how can you like that?

• 52:19Speaker 03

  Alcohol at all.

• 52:20Speaker 04

  No, it tastes like sticks and I burn, it's burny. I don't like, you know, I kind of get it. Whis- whiskey, why would you want to drink whiskey? I don't know. Oh, oh, it's like medicine or something. And likewise, I had a beer, I've never drunk beer, but I was in Dublin the other day where our band was playing and I said, bring it to me on stage. Oh, they'll witness me having a, my first Guinness.

• 52:39Jessie Ware?

  Oh, God.

• 52:40Speaker 04

  And they brought it to me. It was delicious. I get it. I like the idea of a cold beer sounds good and foam is always nice and mm. That was kind of great.

• 52:48Jessie Ware?

  Did you enjoy it?

• 52:49Speaker 04

  I didn't want to have the whole thing and I'm very sensitive. So if I have something, I start to feel fu- funny right away.

• 52:56Speaker 03

  Oh, my God. You're real lightweight.

• 52:58Speaker 04

  And then why, yeah, I'm very lightweight and wine I know nothing about, but you know, if somebody says, hey, this is a very special red wine. I go, okay, with the meal, not, I'm not going to just drink it, but with this meal, mm, very delicious food. Let me have the drink.

• 53:13Speaker 04

  Yes. Oh, I get it. Yeah. Nice. And then I'm done.

• 53:16Speaker 03

  How does your French mother-in-law cope with this?

• 53:18Speaker 04

  Well, you know, I don't know. She's very, she's very generous. She's, seems to be cordial and open-armed. Uh, about me and I certainly give her much reason to be.

• 53:28Jessie Ware?

  Your wonderful management are telling us that you must go.

• 53:32Speaker 04

  This was like one of those rides that you go and you just, I want to go again. It's too short.

• 53:36Jessie Ware?

  Please just come again.

• 53:37Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:38Jessie Ware?

  You are welcome.

• 53:39Speaker 03

  Anytime.

• 53:40Speaker 04

  I really love, love you too.

• 53:42Jessie Ware?

  Oh, God, and we love you.

• 53:44Speaker 04

  I kind of really do.

• 53:47Speaker 04

  I'm a little bit choked up and romantic. I, I really, really love you and I love this house and being invited here is very special.

• 53:53Jessie Ware?

  Thank you very much. You you make everyone feel very special, so thank you.

• 53:58Speaker 03

  He's got that.

• 53:58Jessie Ware?

  You've got that.

• 53:59Speaker 03

  Gift of making. It's just that making you feel that you are the most important person in the room.

• 54:05Jessie Ware?

  So thank you. And congratulations, it's a big day for you. Night Blooms is out today.

• 54:12Speaker 04

  It is out today. We're trying, that's why I'm ostensibly here to bang the drum and to get the word out, which I'm proud to do.

• 54:17Jessie Ware?

  Go on, hold it.

• 54:18Speaker 04

  Cause it's a, yes, I'd be proud to be pictured with a thing like this, cause. Yeah, my friend did that. You know, and you know, and these people in the, it's good music. It's our best album. I love doing it. We're gonna record some more. I love doing it live, so it's just fun for me. So it gets ten gold blooms out of a possible ten gold.

• 54:39Speaker 03

  Of course, I've just realised it's a play on words. Jeff Gold, Gold Bloom.

• 54:44Speaker 04

  Gold Blooms, yes, Night Blooms, yeah, you get it, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 54:47Speaker 03

  I've fallen in, yeah.

• 54:48Speaker 04

  I, I'm, I'm an idiot. I, I, I did Isle of Dogs. And it wasn't until I did the movie and then it was a year later we were doing the publicity and I went, yes, I love dogs. I love dogs.

• 54:59Speaker 03

  I love dogs.

• 55:00Speaker 04

  Is that what you meant? He said, yes, of course. Oh, I didn't get it, yeah, so.

• 55:04Jessie Ware?

  Oh, well, yeah, I only just got it when you spelt it out, so well done.

• 55:08Speaker 04

  I'm very slow. I'm very slow anyways.

• 55:10Jessie Ware?

  Before we let you go, and you may have already answered this, but a nostalgic taste that can transport you back somewhere, happy or sad?

• 55:16Speaker 04

  Well, you know, many things bring me back to my childhood and I like that movie Triptobountiful or that play. You ever see that? Geraldine Page wants to just go back before she dies to her home, just to see where she grew up again, you know. I know that feeling and I dream about the house in Pittsburgh. Oh, that food, um, you know, we went out to certain restaurants that we went to. My brothers and I got um, uh, pizza from the Junction Pizza, De Sal's Pizza, the Square Pizza. That was awful good. That'll bring me back, um, if I went there. And at home, that glass ball, that green glass ball of spaghetti bolognese or the potato salad would do it. And then we went into a phase where we got a grill in the backyard.

• 55:56Speaker 04

  And they would put on steaks on the grill. They liked that and you know, that was something. You know, but I like cold cereal and. Going back and having my cereal that I had then, Life Cereal, some Oatschecks or something.

• 56:10Speaker 03

  Oatschecks.

• 56:11Speaker 04

  Would do something for me.

• 56:12Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 56:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, Life Cereal, a lot of people.

• 56:15Jessie Ware?

  When it sweetens the milk and then it's just like.

• 56:17Speaker 04

  Oh, crazy about that.

• 56:19Jessie Ware?

  Oh, I love.

• 56:20Speaker 04

  Yeah, I like when it's a little bit, not too crunchy, it gets a little bit soggy, not too soggy, but you know. Although I like overnight oats, where you just soggy up the oats.

• 56:30Jessie Ware?

  Thank you for being on. Congratulations on Night Blains.

• 56:33Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 56:34Jessie Ware?

  And everyone can come see you in the UK and the Royal Albert Hall will be the London date.

• 56:39Speaker 04

  Yeah, the thirtieth, if you want, there'll be, you'll be the guests of honor, um, the June thirtieth.

• 56:44Speaker 03

  Oh, we could.

• 56:45Speaker 04

  June thirtieth.

• 56:46Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 56:46Speaker 04

  Thank you. Congratulations to you.

• 56:47Jessie Ware?

  Oh, thank you.

• 56:48Speaker 04

  Every little thing.

• 56:50Jessie Ware?

  You're so sweet. Well, thank you for being such a fantastic guest.

• 56:53Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 56:54Jessie Ware?

  And there is always room for part two. Whenever, so say the word Jeff and you can come.

• 57:00Speaker 04

  Part two, I'm counting on Fast and Furious to, I think, seven or eight.

• 57:04Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, let's do it.

• 57:21Jessie Ware?

  Jeff Goldblum, what a guy.

• 57:24Speaker 03

  He was just like a bundle of love.

• 57:26Jessie Ware?

  I mean.

• 57:27Speaker 03

  Warm, kind, knowledgeable.

• 57:30Jessie Ware?

  I think that was the most off-piece Last Supper.

• 57:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 57:34Jessie Ware?

  I don't know if we really got a Last Supper.

• 57:36Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 57:37Jessie Ware?

  But it's a little.

• 57:38Speaker 03

  But we did have his last films.

• 57:40Jessie Ware?

  Yes, I mean, he's amazing.

• 57:43Speaker 03

  Monsieur, what was it, Vilno?

• 57:45Jessie Ware?

  I don't know.

• 57:46Speaker 03

  Charlie Chaplin.

• 57:47Jessie Ware?

  I was too busy being kind of dazzled by.

• 57:49Speaker 03

  Yeah, he was dazzling.

• 57:50Jessie Ware?

  He's, for somebody that doesn't drink whiskey, he is like a fine glass of whiskey, kind of rich and fruity.

• 57:58Speaker 03

  His warmth is wonderful.

• 57:59Jessie Ware?

  And he was so lovely. And like, you know, my husband rocks up. I don't know why he had my son's guitar on the back. It looked like he was a kind of travelling, wandering.

• 58:09Speaker 03

  He had a pair of small shoes.

• 58:11Jessie Ware?

  Anyway.

• 58:11Speaker 03

  So mad.

• 58:12Jessie Ware?

  And he's like Sam Burrows and he knew everything.

• 58:15Speaker 03

  Everything.

• 58:15Jessie Ware?

  Knew my middle name.

• 58:16Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 58:17Jessie Ware?

  What a gent.

• 58:19Speaker 03

  Lovely.

• 58:19Jessie Ware?

  Jeff Goldblum.

• 58:21Speaker 03

  Blooming wonderful.

• 58:22Jessie Ware?

  Blooming fabulous. And his album Night Blooms is out this week. Go and get it. Um, it's really gorgeous.

• 58:29Speaker 03

  And we're into albums with blooms in the title.

• 58:32Jessie Ware?

  We are into albums of blooms. And maybe I'll show my kids Jurassic Park tonight.

• 58:37Speaker 03

  Maybe.

• 58:39Jessie Ware?

  It's just the bit when the bloody thing goes. That bit, you know what I mean?

• 58:43Speaker 03

  Yeah, the, the, the big boy toddler will be under the table.

• 58:46Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, maybe we just say avert your eyes on that bit. Anyway, um, we'll see you. I thought the food was nice. I'm so annoyed that I forgot the vinegar.

• 58:52Speaker 03

  It was fine.

• 58:53Jessie Ware?

  But it kind of was fine having it.

• 58:54Speaker 03

  It was delicious.

• 58:55Jessie Ware?

  It was very nice.

• 58:56Speaker 03

  Absolutely delicious.

• 58:57Jessie Ware?

  Georgie, I love you. You're a fantastic chef and always your cookbooks are wonderful. So that's from Medesque, which is out now. And I love that.

• 59:05Speaker 03

  Fruit salad.

• 59:06Jessie Ware?

  For the team that are here, did anyone try the fruit salad?

• 59:10Speaker 03

  They all did.

• 59:11Jessie Ware?

  Isn't it lovely? And very simple. Add a little bit of stem ginger in there, a tin of light cheese and some tropical fruit and jobs are good.

• 59:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 59:20Jessie Ware?

  Um, we'll see you next week for more table manners.

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