KHC 161 - Sh*t Talkers Weekly 16

Join us for a new Sh*t Talkers Weekly podcast episode. This week Cam and James cover some raw statements on the growing crisis of male loneliness in today’s world and controversy from the last Sh*t Talkers Weekly conversation about it. Then, the moment thousands have been waiting for, the winner of the once-in-a-lifetime Utah hunt giveaway is announced and called LIVE! From there they talk about their recent trip to Nashville for Tucker Carlson’s ALP party, Jelly Roll’s incredible fitness transformation, and more! Follow along: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cameronrhanes Twitter: https://twitter.com/cameronhanes Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/camhanes/ Website: https://www.cameronhanes.com Timestamps: 00:00:00 – A Statement on Male Loneliness 00:08:26 – Utah Hunt Winner Announcement 00:18:42 – Nashville and Jelly Roll’s Fitness Journey 00:29:17 – Podcast with Whistlin’ Diesel 00:34:01 – ALP Party in Nashville 00:41:22 – Jelly Roll & Cam’s Viral Running Video 00:45:16 – Jelly Roll’s Haters, “Lizard People”, & the Illuminati 00:53:48 – Final Thoughts: Upcoming Trip to TX and The Bowhunter Film Thank you to our sponsors: LMNT: Visit https://drinklmnt.com/cam for a free sample pack with any purchase Sig Sauer: https://www.sigsauer.com/ use code CAM10 for 10% off optics Ketone IQ: https://www.ketone.com/Cam use code CAM for 30% off your first subscriptionGrizzly Coolers: https://www.grizzlycoolers.com/ use code KEEPHAMMERING for 20% off Black Rifle Coffee: https://www.blackriflecoffee.com/ Use code KEEPHAMMERING for 20% your first order Montana Knife Company: https://www.montanaknifecompany.com/ Use code CAM for 10% off

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• 0:00Cameron Hanes?

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• 2:22Cameron Hanes?

  Keep Krammering Collective, are we live?

• 2:24Speaker 01

  We're live.

• 2:25Cameron Hanes?

  Oh shit, I gotta start like this. That's for our like, normally it's like a-

• 2:30Speaker 01

  That's our clapboard.

• 2:32Cameron Hanes?

  What's that for? But what's it, what is it? Sound check?

• 2:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, sound syncing.

• 2:36Cameron Hanes?

  Sound syncing. So the Keep Krammering Collective Sound Syncing, Episode 1. This is Shit Talkers 16?

• 2:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:44Cameron Hanes?

  Is it? I'm kinda fucking wound up, why? I just did Piska, I just got my gas bowstrings, put on my bow.

• 2:52Speaker 01

  Nice.

• 2:53Cameron Hanes?

  Just got my shit dialed in, got some broadheads for Jelly Roll, got some... I don't know, had a few M&Ms and now I got some coffee. Did they ever decide, so is Tucker gay or Nick gay or are they both not gay?

• 3:08Speaker 01

  No, it's a fed.

• 3:10Cameron Hanes?

  But somebody called one of them gay.

• 3:13Speaker 01

  Tucker called Nick gay.

• 3:14Cameron Hanes?

  Right, okay.

• 3:15Speaker 01

  Maybe Nick, Nick probably called Tucker gay.

• 3:18Cameron Hanes?

  They're both like, did the Spider-Man fed thing?

• 3:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:23Cameron Hanes?

  I don't know, I think Tucker's cool. I met him, he seems cool.

• 3:27Speaker 01

  Seems cool to me.

• 3:28Cameron Hanes?

  But who the fuck am I?

• 3:29Speaker 01

  Yeah. I do have to say one thing, cause I got a couple DMs and I had a discussion with a buddy, shout out Dylan. This is gonna be the last time I speak on this.

• 3:38Cameron Hanes?

  Hmm.

• 3:39Speaker 01

  And it's again about the male loneliness epidemic. It, I guess, people took what we said as, if you're lonely, you're a pussy. If you're sad, you're a pussy. So I wanted to clear the air and say-

• 3:50Cameron Hanes?

  I never said that.

• 3:51Speaker 01

  No, we never said that. But, you know, I can see how I said it as like, you know, buck up and make yourself valuable. And stop being sad or lonely, which is not what I meant. Someone that I've struggled with depression, I struggle with anxiety every day. I'm not dismissing anybody's feelings.

• 4:11Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 4:11Speaker 01

  What I'm saying is, to pit yourself against society.

• 4:17Speaker 01

  To to kind of make yourself an outcast and then at the same time be a victim and feel that you're owed something is a terrible combo.

• 4:24Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 4:25Speaker 01

  And as a man, nobody is coming to save you.

• 4:28Cameron Hanes?

  Right.

• 4:28Speaker 01

  So at at a certain point, you do have to put your shit on your own back and and dust yourself off.

• 4:35Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I mean, I've heard Andrew Tate, which obviously that's going to trigger people, but say like, if you're a man, nobody gives a if you're sad. I mean, and it's not that's not that shouldn't be the case because we should be able to like, you're not immune to.

• 4:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:53Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, we're all humans, right? But there is a certain aspect of it where I guess, you know, counseling can help everybody. I haven't done a lot of counseling, but I know counseling has helped a lot of men. And maybe that's if it gets bad enough, maybe that's where it goes. But there's a certain part where men are just, I mean, you just.

• 5:19Cameron Hanes?

  You just gotta push your shit.

• 5:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 5:21Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, whether you're sick, tired, cold, hungry, don't want to go to work, it doesn't matter. You gotta go to work.

• 5:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 5:29Cameron Hanes?

  You gotta go to work. And then after you so after you do your job or do whatever, after that, I guess it's up to you. But I think the point that we were trying to make is is like, you can be intentional about self improvement, about, like I said, reading, but where are you trying to meet people? What? How are you trying to? You know, this doesn't just happen, you know? We talk about, you can talk about business opportunities or employment opportunities. Usually people aren't coming to your front door saying, hey, I know you haven't really been seeking this, but I got a great opportunity for you and you have a chance to make a career and and some amazing money and this could turn into life changing. It doesn't happen that way.

• 6:12Speaker 01

  No.

• 6:13Cameron Hanes?

  It happens when you go and you can seek it out and you like make yourself.

• 6:19Cameron Hanes?

  I think, what'd you say, make yourself

• 6:21Speaker 01

  Valuable.

• 6:21Cameron Hanes?

  Valuable, right? I mean, so valuable to society or valuable to an employer. It's the same thing.

• 6:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:28Cameron Hanes?

  What are you doing?

• 6:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:29Cameron Hanes?

  So that's, we're not trying to dismiss people who are really struggling and actually need medical advice or attention or guidance. That's, you know, that's a whole different thing.

• 6:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:41Cameron Hanes?

  But in general, we can do a lot ourselves.

• 6:45Speaker 01

  And if you do go to therapy, you are a pussy.

• 6:49Speaker 01

  I'm kidding, but it's a joke. And it's with all love.

• 6:54Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 6:54Speaker 01

  I got, um.

• 6:55Cameron Hanes?

  I call therapy the spearmint rhino in Vegas.

• 7:01Speaker 01

  I went to, when I got caught stealing in high school and I got court appointed therapy. I went, I had to do six sessions. The first one, I went in there, I dumped all the bad shit that happened in my life in a, in an hour span. And the next four, I sat in silence and we stared at each other for an hour.

• 7:20Cameron Hanes?

  That was goodwill hunting. So that's, that was based on your life.

• 7:25Speaker 01

  And I had one left and she just said, you know what? I'm gonna go ahead and sign off on that last one. You don't have to come next week. And I was like, thank you.

• 7:30Cameron Hanes?

  You're making me uncomfortable.

• 7:32Speaker 01

  You've shown a lot of improvement.

• 7:36Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, it's a, I haven't, oh man, I haven't realized many benefits from any counseling I've ever had to do. But.

• 7:46Speaker 01

  I just think it's tough for a guy to go in somewhere and trust somebody to be, and be like, hey, this is the shit I'm dealing with and not feel like that person is gonna use it against you.

• 7:59Cameron Hanes?

  That's what being a guy is. You tell, you tell your buddy, hey, can I tell you something I've been kinda dealing with? You know, you're, everybody's gonna know about it and you're just gonna be ridiculed for probably years. Cause you were at a weak point and had to open up to somebody. So that's where guys just get used to be, be like, you know what? I'm good. I'm actually good. Oh, really? But I walked in and you had that gun to your head, but you're, you're okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, you'll, oh.

• 8:29Speaker 01

  It was a joke.

• 8:30Cameron Hanes?

  That was, yeah, I was, I was just messing.

• 8:33Speaker 01

  That was the old me.

• 8:35Cameron Hanes?

  So, yeah, I don't know. It's it. I don't, you know, we're sort of joking around, but it is a serious thing, but also on the other part of it. It's like the victim role is not the way to go. Being the victim for society and for like even with Nick talking to Tucker, like saying, you know, blaming the women and it's like, like all like, I do understand that when you get the whole DEI includes inclusivity, all this bullshit, like white men are, I mean,

• 9:10Speaker 01

  hated.

• 9:11Cameron Hanes?

  hated. Yeah. It's just like, what can we do to get rid of all these white men? That's basically some people's attitude. So when you're like looking in your skin going, I'm got a dick. Talking about me?

• 9:27Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, it is kinda like, what the, what, what did we do?

• 9:30Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's kind of the conversation I had with my buddy too, is like, I'm not saying that it's not hard. What I'm saying is,

• 9:38Cameron Hanes?

  it's, it's half hard right now.

• 9:39Speaker 01

  Yeah. I'm like that.

• 9:42Cameron Hanes?

  I just brushed up against it. Those pills, those pills, like the wind blows and you're like, holy shit.

• 9:51Speaker 01

  The rhino horn dust from the gas station.

• 9:54Cameron Hanes?

  Shit, it works. It's not good for your heart, but,

• 9:58Speaker 01

  but in a pinch.

• 10:01Cameron Hanes?

  Just a pinch between the cheek and gum is what I do.

• 10:05Speaker 01

  But yeah, I'm like, I, I'm not trying to dismiss anything, but at the end of the day, if it is hard because you're a white man, that sucks.

• 10:14Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 10:15Speaker 01

  Again, nobody,

• 10:16Cameron Hanes?

  what are you gonna do?

• 10:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, exactly.

• 10:17Cameron Hanes?

  Can deal with it.

• 10:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 10:19Cameron Hanes?

  Got to, got to just be better.

• 10:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 10:21Cameron Hanes?

  Hey, look at, I probably, I don't have it on right now, but nobody cares. Work harder. You know what that means? That means nobody gives a shit about your problems. And the answer is more work.

• 10:31Speaker 01

  Yep. I agree. Uh, are we gonna call the hunt winner or no?

• 10:35Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, what's the guy's number? And what's his name? You said it already.

• 10:39Speaker 01

  Clinton Myers. He's a firefighter from North Carolina.

• 10:43Cameron Hanes?

  Okay. Okay. Let's go, baby. Clinton?

• 10:48Speaker 01

  Clinton Myers.

• 10:59Cameron Hanes?

  This is live on the Love Line.

• 11:03Speaker 01

  Probably not gonna answer. It's like eight over there.

• 11:05Speaker 02

  Hi, this is Clint Myers. I am currently on the mobile at this time. If you could please leave your name and number and a message, I will call you right back. Thank you.

• 11:15Cameron Hanes?

  Well, Clinton, this is Cameron Hanes. I was gonna tell you, you won a killer elk hunt, but you must be present to win, so better luck next time.

• 11:24Cameron Hanes?

  Just kidding. You still won. I know you're probably at work. I think I heard you're a firefighter. Is that right? Is that what you said?

• 11:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 11:31Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. So, hey, congratulations. You are the winner of one of the best elk hunts I've, uh, I've ever been on, and I'm pumped to share it with you. And, uh, well, I won't, I won't be there in camp at the same time, probably, but I might be. But you're gonna go, and it's, uh, it's incredible. Hopefully, we'll get a chance to catch up. But I'm calling you right now on Shit Talkers Live, Shit Talkers Weekly Live. So we gotta do it live right now. You won. Congrats. Thanks. I don't, I'm not sure what you bought, but, you know, I don't care what you bought. I'm just pumped you won. So, good job, brother. You're gonna have fun. Get ready.

• 12:09Cameron Hanes?

  Okay.

• 12:10Speaker 01

  Okay. Uh, yeah, anyways, so I just wanted to cover that real quick, clear the air.

• 12:16Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, yeah.

• 12:17Speaker 01

  And, uh, our next topic is, and this is just a quick one, but this is more of a, I put a questionnaire up on my Instagram story, and I need to publicly say that the majority of you guys who responded to that are

• 12:33Cameron Hanes?

  What was it? What was the premise of this?

• 12:35Speaker 01

  I just said, this is when we were traveling, I said, "Questions make them entertaining," which I guess they did, but 95% of them were gay-related. And

• 12:48Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, what?

• 12:51Cameron Hanes?

  It'd be like me being surprised I got hunting-related questions.

• 12:56Speaker 01

  That's my audience, I guess.

• 12:57Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, so you can't really be that shocked.

• 13:00Speaker 01

  Yeah. But my favorite one was somebody asked, uh, if Whistling Diesel was gonna do a durability test on my ass.

• 13:13Cameron Hanes?

  Well, you took the corner out and you couldn't get that one out seamlessly. You had a few hiccups in there, but it was, the delivery wasn't bad. Um, I don't know if, if whistling is gonna be down for this.

• 13:26Speaker 01

  Oh, right.

• 13:27Cameron Hanes?

  So.

• 13:28Speaker 01

  We'll have to run it by him.

• 13:29Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, but, uh, good question.

• 13:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:32Cameron Hanes?

  Good, good question.

• 13:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, great question. Stay tuned to find out. All right.

• 13:38Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 13:38Speaker 01

  So now to the meat and potatoes, we just got back from Antarctica, the ice shelf.

• 13:45Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, we did. Yeah, it was good.

• 13:46Speaker 01

  And the earth is flat.

• 13:48Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. Oh, we got, we verified that.

• 13:50Speaker 01

  No, we were in Nashville. What were we doing there?

• 13:53Cameron Hanes?

  Oh my God. Um, what were we doing? Well,

• 14:00Cameron Hanes?

  um, we went to a Christmas party. What do we, God?

• 14:03Speaker 01

  Well, first day we got there.

• 14:05Cameron Hanes?

  Okay, yeah, go ahead. You help me.

• 14:07Speaker 01

  We got in.

• 14:07Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, wait a second. Wait a second. Wait a second.

• 14:09Speaker 01

  Getting called back.

• 14:12Cameron Hanes?

  Hey, what's up?

• 14:14Speaker 02

  Is this Cameron Hanes?

• 14:16Cameron Hanes?

  This is Cameron Hanes. Is this Clinton Myers?

• 14:19Speaker 02

  Yes, sir. How are you doing?

• 14:21Cameron Hanes?

  Good. Did you listen to my message?

• 14:23Speaker 02

  Yes, I did.

• 14:24Cameron Hanes?

  What do you think about that?

• 14:26Speaker 02

  That's freaking insane.

• 14:28Cameron Hanes?

  Isn't that, isn't that nuts? Yeah, it's like, and dude, this place, oh, have you elk hunting before?

• 14:35Speaker 02

  I've never been elk hunting.

• 14:37Cameron Hanes?

  But you hunt?

• 14:39Speaker 02

  Oh, I love to hunt, sir.

• 14:40Cameron Hanes?

  Okay, well, okay, this is, you're gonna have the best elk hunt. Well, I'm gonna say, it's easy to say of your life because you've never been on one, but man, this place is the best elk hunt I've ever been on as far as bulls, numbers of bulls. It's, it's crazy and I'm super pumped you won.

• 14:58Speaker 02

  This is insane.

• 14:59Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I'm excited for you. I'm excited.

• 15:03Speaker 02

  I grew up western hunting, blacktail and mule deer and killed my first blacktail with a bow when I was 18.

• 15:10Cameron Hanes?

  Nice.

• 15:12Speaker 02

  I got a call the other day saying that I was one of five and that day I killed my first whitetail buck with my bow.

• 15:17Cameron Hanes?

  Whoa, well, that's a good sign then. You got, things are going your way, it sounds like.

• 15:23Speaker 02

  Man, this is unbelievable.

• 15:26Cameron Hanes?

  Well, I'm, I'm so pumped. I mean, I just know what elk hunting means to me. And I know like when I first started, you know, hunting is like my dream was to kill a big bull. It's like all I ever thought about. And so to be able to share, like I said, it's the, as far as elk numbers go, this place is insane. And to be able to share that with somebody like a, another hunter, I never thought I'd be in a position to do it. I'm just super grateful and I'm, I'm glad you're so excited and I'm, I'm pumped for you to experience elk hunting in Utah at this place. And, uh, man, I'm just happy for you.

• 16:03Speaker 02

  I don't even know what to say. Thank you. This is awesome.

• 16:07Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, well, yeah, I mean, the pleasure's mine. I, I, you know, I do these giveaways and it's like, I guess it's supposed to be for the winners, for people like you, but it's for me. This is, I do this because it's like I get the high from it. I get the, this is, this is, I don't know, I just feel grateful I'm able to do this. And, you know, the fact that you're so pumped, it just means that much more.

• 16:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, I couldn't even begin to tell you. If, if my heart rate's running this fast for elk, I'm, I'm probably don't stand a chance.

• 16:41Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, you're, you're gonna do great. Um, you said you grew up, you killed a blacktail out here at 18? Where'd you grow up?

• 16:48Speaker 02

  When I was, I grew up in California.

• 16:50Cameron Hanes?

  Okay.

• 16:51Speaker 02

  And, um, yeah, just got into, my, my dad was big time into bow. I can still remember the bow hunting magazines with Chuck Adams on the front page.

• 16:59Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 17:00Speaker 02

  Yeah. So I started there and then, um, joined the army, come out here and got into whitetail hunting. And my fiance lives in Eagle Mountain.

• 17:10Cameron Hanes?

  Hmm.

• 17:10Speaker 02

  So I've been flying out there and seeing the elk and I just really miss that. You know, I was a little too young to really understand the, uh, concept of spot and stalk and all that, but.

• 17:21Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 17:22Speaker 02

  Man, what a, this is gonna be crazy.

• 17:27Cameron Hanes?

  It will. It's, I'm excited for you. And I, I want to thank you too for, you know, your service to our country. Thank you for, you know, what you, what you've done with our military and that makes this even better for me.

• 17:43Speaker 02

  So what's next? If I leave tomorrow, I'm ready.

• 17:46Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 17:49Speaker 02

  I've been following you for a while and not to get too personal, but started following you at one of the darkest times of my life and really dove into bow hunting, more so because of you and watching Joe Rogan and Jaco and Dudley and you guys and just following that content, learning a lot. So it means a lot.

• 18:10Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, man. Well, I'm super happy for you. Just, uh, so I think you got like a few months to get ready or more than a few months. You got plenty of time to get ready, but just be prepared because, uh, I don't know if you're going to bow hunt or rifle hunt. It's either weapon at this place, but, uh, just, I'm just want you to, uh, I don't know. I'm just excited for you to get there. I'm, I'm probably as excited as you are, um, because I know what it, what, you know, what it feels like to be a new elk hunter and, uh, I'm super pumped.

• 18:42Speaker 02

  I've been dreaming of being in the, not, not to kill an elk, but to be in the same canyon and hear one bugle.

• 18:51Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, wow.

• 18:53Speaker 01

  Gonna hear plenty of that.

• 18:54Cameron Hanes?

  You're gonna hear a lot of that, brother. Yeah.

• 18:57Speaker 02

  Wow, this is amazing.

• 18:58Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. Well, I'll, uh, I'll have Rihanna get ahold of you, get ahold of you for the details and everything else. And, uh, but yeah, I just, mostly I'm just calling to tell you, you won. You're the winner of the premium elk hunt there in Utah. And, uh, man, it just warms my heart to, to make this call.

• 19:16Speaker 02

  Well, thank you very much for this opportunity, sir. This truly is a blessing.

• 19:20Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, I feel the same. All right. Well, have, have a good night and, uh, great to talk to you.

• 19:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, you do the same, sir. Thank you for all the good content you put out there.

• 19:29Cameron Hanes?

  All right, brother. Thank you. Take care. Bye.

• 19:34Cameron Hanes?

  Okay. Um, yeah, that's cool. He seems pumped.

• 19:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, he does. That's awesome.

• 19:39Cameron Hanes?

  That's great.

• 19:41Speaker 01

  I love when seemingly good people like that, when the

• 19:43Cameron Hanes?

  I know.

• 19:44Speaker 01

  It seems like every single one of them.

• 19:46Cameron Hanes?

  I know. We haven't, we haven't had, uh, I mean,

• 19:51Cameron Hanes?

  yeah, I don't, I don't know. We, we've either been lucky or we just have all badass, cool people who follow. But I guess it's just, uh, I'm just happy that our winners have all been like that.

• 20:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 20:03Cameron Hanes?

  And it's just, I don't know if it's a, you know, I don't know what it is karma. I don't really think karma is a thing, but I think we're just getting lucky and just cool people are winning. I like it.

• 20:14Speaker 01

  Yeah. If karma does exist, I'm,

• 20:17Speaker 01

  and I ever have kids,

• 20:20Speaker 01

  they're definitely going to be retarded.

• 20:21Cameron Hanes?

  They're gonna be gay retards.

• 20:26Speaker 01

  Booger eaters.

• 20:27Cameron Hanes?

  They're gonna be pre-cum babies for sure.

• 20:32Speaker 01

  Don't make me worried.

• 20:34Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, God.

• 20:37Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, yeah, that's,

• 20:41Cameron Hanes?

  anyway. Anyway.

• 20:44Speaker 01

  Anyway, so back to

• 20:45Cameron Hanes?

  Where was I?

• 20:50Speaker 01

  Back to the Nashville trip, flew in that afternoon. We had a couple hours, so we, uh, we went over to Jelly Rolls.

• 20:57Cameron Hanes?

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• 21:37Cameron Hanes?

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• 22:22Cameron Hanes?

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• 22:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 22:52Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, wait, let me, God, I can't even remember.

• 22:55Speaker 01

  Cause that was the night he had a little birthday party.

• 22:58Cameron Hanes?

  Oh.

• 22:59Speaker 01

  Early birthday.

• 22:59Cameron Hanes?

  What do we do? Just go visit? And then did he shoot his boat?

• 23:03Speaker 01

  And then he shot his boat.

• 23:04Cameron Hanes?

  Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that was fun. Yeah. So I went over to his house. He's shooting really good. We got our hunt coming up. Went and got him some broadheads. So I think we're going to be pretty dialed in. He shot sitting down, which he hadn't done before. And on this hunt, we're in a blind. So you're sitting on a chair. But he's super accurate. As long as you go through every, every key checkpoint of that process, he's dialed in.

• 23:32Speaker 01

  Yeah. He's, he's excited. That's for sure.

• 23:34Cameron Hanes?

  My God, I'm so pumped.

• 23:35Speaker 01

  I know.

• 23:36Cameron Hanes?

  So the same with me. It's like, I've killed so much shit. Dude, now it's just like, I still, you know, it's what I do, but I get more. A bigger reward off of helping other people. And so to for Jelly, oh my God, dude. His first bow kill, if this could, you know, please God, help us in this endeavor. But if that could happen, I'm going to be, it's going to be the pinnacle of my hunting life. I think.

• 24:05Speaker 01

  It'll be insane.

• 24:06Cameron Hanes?

  Nice. I mean, from him to have taken this personal turn in his life from losing over 200 pounds to running every day to bow hunting. I mean, what a change.

• 24:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's incredible.

• 24:21Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 24:21Speaker 01

  I mean, I feel like if he is like the perfect, the poster child of anything is possible.

• 24:29Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 24:30Speaker 01

  You know what I mean? Okay, you know, forget the, forget the weight loss, just his journey through, you know, who he was when he was younger, you know, going through the system and being in jail.

• 24:40Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 24:41Speaker 01

  And now making it as this, one of the most successful country artists. I mean, that by itself is insane.

• 24:46Cameron Hanes?

  Nominated for three Grammys.

• 24:48Speaker 01

  And then you throw the, the weight loss on top. I mean, it's insane.

• 24:52Cameron Hanes?

  No, and, and I mean, you go look at the life that he's put together now. And if you would have, I mean, I didn't know what he, I've seen what he, what he came from. Of course I wasn't around.

• 25:03Speaker 01

  Right.

• 25:04Cameron Hanes?

  But you would never think that that's possible.

• 25:07Speaker 01

  No.

• 25:07Cameron Hanes?

  And you know, I, I think even talking with Alexi too, where she was battling with depression herself and felt like, you know, after her Olympics, she was, had, you know, I think a lot of athletes deal with like what, what now after the Olympics, but she's had so much other stuff in her life, but to go where she was at that time or that feeling to where she is now, it should just give, and Jelly the same thing, should get everybody hope. It's like, yes, we're in different situations. Of course, Alexi and Jelly, Alexi was an Olympic athlete. Jelly was a, you know, a drug dealer that was basically in jail for most of his young adult life.

• 25:48Cameron Hanes?

  So completely different trajectories of, of their journey, but they both changed night and day from.

• 25:56Cameron Hanes?

  From those experiences. And it's like, if they can do it. So I guess the point is, it's like, whatever your circumstance is, it doesn't even have to be like anybody else's. It's yours. You own it. But that doesn't mean that it can't change. And those are two great examples of it changing.

• 26:11Speaker 01

  I mean, if you took Jelly Roll sitting in his cell and told him what the rest of his life was gonna look like, he would have, I mean, there's absolutely zero chance he could have ever fathomed that. And I think that's just proof of like, no dream is too big.

• 26:26Cameron Hanes?

  Right.

• 26:27Speaker 01

  Not to discount the work between the two points, but.

• 26:29Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, it doesn't just happen.

• 26:31Speaker 01

  No.

• 26:31Cameron Hanes?

  It doesn't happen.

• 26:32Speaker 01

  But.

• 26:33Cameron Hanes?

  But it can happen.

• 26:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's insane. I mean, I was having this conversation with Anthony, who we met at the out party. And it was just like, you look at shit like that and it's like,

• 26:45Speaker 01

  I don't know. I mean, anything is possible. Like Kevin Garnett says.

• 26:50Cameron Hanes?

  Anything is possible. Fucking fakest thing I've ever heard, but yeah.

• 26:58Speaker 01

  And Jason Tatum.

• 26:59Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, did he? He did that too, probably just even more fake. God, can these come up with anything original? Jeez. But yeah, I think it's like, it is incredible. I think

• 27:19Cameron Hanes?

  it's gotta be, it's gotta be a God thing too. I mean, you have to believe there's a chance. You have to believe in something bigger than yourself.

• 27:25Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 27:26Cameron Hanes?

  You have to believe in

• 27:29Cameron Hanes?

  it's gonna work out. You have to believe that if you, yeah, I don't know. I wish I had the, I wish I could say it exactly right to give people hope. But I just look at those examples and that should give people hope.

• 27:45Speaker 01

  Yeah. I mean, I, the way I look at it is.

• 27:49Speaker 01

  You know, to take or to even dream of things like that, some people will call you stupid, but it's scary. You have to take a risk. You have to take a risk on yourself. And so to believe in God or to say, you know, it's in God's hands, I think, gives you the freedom to dream that big.

• 28:04Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 28:05Speaker 01

  Because you know, whatever happens, it's in God's hands.

• 28:07Cameron Hanes?

  It doesn't have to be realistic, maybe. Maybe if you, maybe if it's bigger than yourself, because normally people dream, you know, in their own little realm.

• 28:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:16Cameron Hanes?

  You know, and it might be like, and that's okay. It's okay to start there.

• 28:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:20Cameron Hanes?

  It's like, hey, if you don't have a job, I want to get a job. Okay, well, get a job. Get out there, get a job. And then like, what's the next thing? So it's like, I guess you don't go from unemployed to be like, I'm going to be a multimillionaire.

• 28:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:34Cameron Hanes?

  It's like, well, let's get a job first.

• 28:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:39Cameron Hanes?

  But I think that, yeah, no dream is too big. Once you start on that path, it just get going on the right.

• 28:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:46Cameron Hanes?

  Get going the right direction and get on that path. And then, once you're focused, and I think when with Jelly, it's like what I wrote in that caption on some of the photos that you took, amazing photos. But um, I wrote that, you know, people want to make excuses how he lost the weight or they want to come up with these things. It's like, he just got, got up every day and he started off, he wasn't running, he was walking. He said he'd take smoke breaks on the walk. He couldn't even walk point seven miles. But he was out there and he was putting in the work and he was like, worked on his diet. He's got his chef there that helps, you know, stay healthy on, on eating clean food, not drinking as much and just getting out and into the fresh air. So yeah,

• 29:27Cameron Hanes?

  he wasn't running miles like we did yesterday. At first, at first he was just walking and he couldn't even walk without stopping. But he was going in the right direction is my point. He was actually making a positive effort for a change. Once you start there, then yeah, once you're going that way, who knows where the end is.

• 29:45Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah, I kind of had that revelation while we were running with him was, you know, I was thinking about the 5K with, with Bert and Tom and then. How he, how good he was running when we were with him. And, you know, I was like, well, to, to a normal person, you see him between these two points and you're like, wow, that happened overnight. But then I thought about all the countless days in between where he probably felt like a miniscule amount of progress was being made, but he stuck with it. And you compound that day after day. And now all of a sudden, he's got the fruit of his labor, basically.

• 30:19Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 30:19Speaker 01

  And it's like, I mean, obviously those people commenting on Instagram weren't there, but he was running at a great pace.

• 30:27Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. I mean, you were sweating.

• 30:29Speaker 01

  I was sweating.

• 30:29Cameron Hanes?

  You had your sweatshirt off.

• 30:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 30:31Cameron Hanes?

  And it was like.

• 30:32Speaker 01

  Sweat dripping down my face.

• 30:33Cameron Hanes?

  It was cold that morning. And I mean, it's, it is amazing to think where he's been because if you would have seen him at 540 pounds, and when, when people are that big, you know, it's just like, even like walking can be a challenge. And to now go to where he's like, I mean, I was just at the bow rack and there had to like, didn't know who I was running with. They were like, had to look who that was. Cause they're like, that is Jelly Roll? You know? I mean, fucking crazy.

• 31:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:10Cameron Hanes?

  So.

• 31:10Speaker 01

  It's amazing.

• 31:11Cameron Hanes?

  Pretty exciting.

• 31:12Speaker 01

  But yeah, kind of back to where we were. We did that. We shot, Jelly Roll shot his bow. That was the end of that day. Then the next day we did a podcast with Cody Detwiler, otherwise known as Whistling Diesel.

• 31:26Cameron Hanes?

  Diesel.

• 31:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:27Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, we did. Nicest kid.

• 31:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:30Cameron Hanes?

  I cannot believe how good a kid that is.

• 31:32Speaker 01

  So genuine.

• 31:33Cameron Hanes?

  And I saw, I'd blocked somebody because I love blocking people, but saying something, like saying something about him, something negative. And just like, what is this based off? You don't even, if you knew the kid, you'd know what a nice young man he is. And I guess I haven't watched all his videos. I don't know. Maybe he's done something that upset people, apparently. I don't know. But I know sitting and spending time with him.

• 32:04Cameron Hanes?

  Frickin', if, if my kids acted like him, I'd be happy.

• 32:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, even, even just at the out party was like, he was so respectful. He was just, he's just a normal, you know, nice respectable guy.

• 32:20Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I mean, yeah, super, super nice young man. I was really, uh, I feel really lucky to have that opportunity. Go check out what he's been building, what he's working on, learn more about him because, and he just texted me today too. He said, you know, he's been following me for 15 years. And it's like, I asked him in the podcast, you guys will hear it, but say like, like, who was your inspiration on this journey? He was just like, well, you.

• 32:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:48Cameron Hanes?

  He's like watching my videos and now he's, you know, he had his bow there behind me on the wall. It's just, I didn't know, I didn't know all that. I'm sure I get a lot of messages and I'm sure we did message back and forth years ago. And then I knew that he, I didn't know if it was the same kid, but the whistle and diesel, of course, I know that's like a different person to me in my head. Maybe, I don't know, but he's just been blowing up. And then so to hear that we've had this long history that I didn't hundred percent connect the dots on it. It's pretty cool, but uh, I'm just, I'm just blown away that at 27 years old, he has built something special.

• 33:28Speaker 01

  Yeah. And I mean, it seems like he's not, obviously he's not planning on slowing down anytime soon.

• 33:34Cameron Hanes?

  Doesn't seem like it.

• 33:35Speaker 01

  Tons of great ideas and he's, he's working towards what he says, you know, are really big goals. And yeah, it's pretty, pretty incredible. He's my age.

• 33:44Cameron Hanes?

  I cannot, that blows me away because I think about what I was like. I always do that with these kids, just like Benji the other day. It's just like, holy shit, I was such a.

• 33:55Cameron Hanes?

  But I'm so, it makes me that much more impressed with these young men just, you know, kicking ass.

• 34:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, pretty awesome.

• 34:02Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, but uh, yeah, Cody was great. I really liked that podcast. I learned a lot about him. I just sent it, sent it to him. So um, we can get it reviewed and then get it posted. You guys can enjoy that. And he hasn't done many podcasts, so.

• 34:16Speaker 01

  No, that was his only one that.

• 34:19Cameron Hanes?

  He said, and then somebody said it's not his first, but I think he said he did like a little one years ago.

• 34:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:24Cameron Hanes?

  So maybe that's what people are talking about. Of course, everybody's got shit to say about everything.

• 34:28Speaker 01

  I mean, everybody's got an opinion.

• 34:30Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 34:30Speaker 01

  The only one that matters is ours.

• 34:32Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 34:34Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, so that, that was great. That was a great time.

• 34:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, and then uh, you guys hopped in his Batmobile.

• 34:40Cameron Hanes?

  Holy shit.

• 34:41Speaker 01

  One of the sickest cars I've ever seen.

• 34:43Cameron Hanes?

  It is. I cannot believe how, I mean, he told me, I thought I was driving fast on some of these parts of this road. And that thing just hugs and just grips the road like, I don't even know how you could wreck it, but I'm sure you could. Cause I always thought I was going fast and he said, wait, the, how fast he'd went on that stretch? And I was just like, wow.

• 35:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, which was completely legal on this stretch of road, by the way.

• 35:13Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We were on the Autobahn.

• 35:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:16Cameron Hanes?

  Is where it was.

• 35:17Speaker 01

  Private track.

• 35:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, but that, that car was sick. It's a Ferrari. Um, it's got a, it's a V8, right? And then it's got four electric motors.

• 35:26Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 35:27Speaker 01

  Which, yeah, that's.

• 35:29Cameron Hanes?

  So they both like work, the V8 can charge the other ones or something like that at the same, or they both at the same time?

• 35:36Speaker 01

  They work together. So when you launch, there's no lag. I mean, pretty slick car.

• 35:41Cameron Hanes?

  Slick. Yeah, I'm not sure how much it costs, but his license plate says billions.

• 35:51Speaker 01

  Yeah. But yeah, so we did that podcast and then we went, did we go back to Jelly Rolls? For a second we did. Oh yeah, because you drove.

• 36:01Cameron Hanes?

  We drove over there.

• 36:02Speaker 01

  We drove the Ferrari over there.

• 36:04Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. And then I think that's, is that when they were shooting? No, no, no, no.

• 36:09Speaker 01

  No, because we rolled out of there.

• 36:11Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, okay. Yeah. But yeah, went over there. I said, hey, I texted him. I said, hey, could I swing by in the Ferrari? But to your house and say hi? He's like, yeah. So we did that. Um, yeah, just incredible. I mean, I think, was that the night of the party too?

• 36:28Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 36:29Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 36:29Speaker 01

  Right. Yeah. Cause after that, we went back to the hotel and, you know, it takes me a couple hours to get ready. I had to trim the armpit hair.

• 36:37Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, right. Get all spruced up. But I got my tux on.

• 36:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, we should have worn tuxes.

• 36:43Cameron Hanes?

  I know.

• 36:44Speaker 01

  But yeah, so then we go to the out party. How was that?

• 36:48Cameron Hanes?

  Standard, standard party.

• 36:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:50Cameron Hanes?

  Like I go to nowadays. Yeah.

• 36:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, pretty, pretty low key.

• 36:56Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 36:57Speaker 01

  Five, you know, five to 10 people there.

• 37:00Cameron Hanes?

  I don't know. I don't think anybody was there that anybody really recognized.

• 37:06Speaker 01

  No.

• 37:07Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, I guess Russell Brand, I don't know if anybody knows him.

• 37:11Speaker 01

  Kind of a niche market.

• 37:12Cameron Hanes?

  Candace Owens.

• 37:14Speaker 01

  Also niche.

• 37:16Cameron Hanes?

  Bryce Mitchell, Kobe Covington, Brendan Schaub, Jelly Roll.

• 37:24Speaker 01

  Theo.

• 37:25Cameron Hanes?

  Theo, Marjorie Taylor Greene.

• 37:29Speaker 01

  Travis Tritt.

• 37:30Cameron Hanes?

  Travis Tritt.

• 37:32Speaker 01

  Billy Gibbons.

• 37:34Cameron Hanes?

  Bradley Gilbert. Who was ZZ Top?

• 37:38Speaker 01

  Billy.

• 37:38Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, that's Billy Gibbons. Okay. Yeah. Um, yeah. So just.

• 37:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:42Cameron Hanes?

  You know.

• 37:43Speaker 01

  Tucker.

• 37:44Cameron Hanes?

  Tucker. Yeah. Nicest guy ever. God, he's so nice.

• 37:50Speaker 01

  Everybody was super nice.

• 37:51Cameron Hanes?

  Hell.

• 37:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:52Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, there wasn't, yeah, it was incredible. We were there for hours, just BSing, talking. It was fun.

• 38:02Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, had Jelly Roll say a prayer for Tucker, which Tucker, I think he said, nobody's ever prayed for him. So that was pretty iconic.

• 38:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't know how this happens, but every time we spend time with Jelly Roll, I always walk away amazed at how he can touch other people's lives.

• 38:20Cameron Hanes?

  Every time.

• 38:20Speaker 01

  Every single person. It's like.

• 38:22Cameron Hanes?

  That's what I was telling, I'm like, hey, I said, he had never met Jelly Roll, but I'm like, this guy has a Holy Spirit in him. I've seen it so many times. Every time he goes somewhere and I just love listening to him pray because he is so good. So I'm just like, I'm like talking to Tucker. I'm like, where, somebody, where is Joe? So I think Tucker's assistant there, Lexi, she's like, I think she went and got him or, I don't know.

• 38:48Speaker 01

  I did.

• 38:49Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, did you?

• 38:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, I went and found him.

• 38:51Cameron Hanes?

  Okay, good. Thank you. But, uh, yeah, so I was like wanting Jelly to be there and then, so you got him. Thank you. And, and, uh, yeah, I came over and it's just, you know, it's just like what he always does. He always impacts people that way.

• 39:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's, uh, I don't know. He's got a gift for it.

• 39:07Cameron Hanes?

  He is. He is touched by God for sure. Um, yeah, I mean, I can't even. Again, I don't know why I'm invited to these things, but.

• 39:20Speaker 01

  Well, if you feel that way, imagine.

• 39:23Cameron Hanes?

  Until they, yeah, until they, well, you did good too. There's like, I'm always like, do not fuck up like, hey, Cam, I've got to talk to you about your, this guy's with you, right? The guy with his pants around his ankles? Yeah.

• 39:36Speaker 01

  Standing over the top of the rock wall.

• 39:41Cameron Hanes?

  The guy with the big bush, that, that guy? Yeah. Well, yeah. So what, so yeah, he is. What, what happened? Well, this.

• 39:50Speaker 01

  Is this a problem? This is pretty standard Tuesday.

• 39:55Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, no, you, you did, you did great. And, uh, cause I always hear about everything when people don't do great, that somehow they're linked to me. I'm like, well, so anyway, you, I haven't heard any of those type of stories. So I appreciate that.

• 40:09Speaker 01

  I tried to keep the, uh, I probably.

• 40:13Cameron Hanes?

  I would.

• 40:14Speaker 01

  Make a joke.

• 40:16Cameron Hanes?

  Okay, yeah.

• 40:18Speaker 01

  I'll keep that one inside.

• 40:20Cameron Hanes?

  Well, let's keep that in our back pocket.

• 40:22Speaker 01

  I won't pull out on that one.

• 40:24Cameron Hanes?

  Good. No, we'll just, we'll just cream pie it.

• 40:28Speaker 01

  We'll keep that one cream.

• 40:33Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 40:34Speaker 01

  But yeah.

• 40:35Cameron Hanes?

  Which brings me to another topic. So I was just kidding, that doesn't.

• 40:39Speaker 01

  Some, some.

• 40:40Cameron Hanes?

  Doesn't, it doesn't.

• 40:42Speaker 01

  Party highlights were, uh, the cookies. I don't know if you had those, the snickerdoodle cookies. By the end of the night, I was stacking five up on top of each other and eating.

• 40:51Cameron Hanes?

  Oh.

• 40:52Speaker 01

  They were so good. Um, somebody puked in the urinal.

• 40:58Speaker 01

  And if you're listening to this, you and I need to have a word about how good you chew your food. Because.

• 41:04Cameron Hanes?

  It's not gonna go down through that little urinal screen. With the wafer in there, the scent wafer.

• 41:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, and rude. They didn't even try to waffle stuff.

• 41:18Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, well, I went in there and took a piss and there's girls like right outside the door taking pictures. It's just like.

• 41:27Speaker 01

  Hey.

• 41:27Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, people coming in, I'm just like right, there's like five feet away taking a piss, but it's all good.

• 41:34Speaker 01

  Sorry, I'll try to keep my dick out of your picture.

• 41:39Cameron Hanes?

  What's this?

• 41:40Speaker 01

  The worst part about the puke in the urinal is as you would piss, the aroma would waft up.

• 41:44Cameron Hanes?

  Hmm.

• 41:45Speaker 01

  So I was sitting there and I'm gagging. I was like, oh, I'm gonna add to this.

• 41:50Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah. Well, that sounds like one of your days with your guy friends.

• 41:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, so that was good.

• 42:03Cameron Hanes?

  Gotta work on that gag reflex.

• 42:08Cameron Hanes?

  You didn't, you just put that together? Shit. Yeah, so that's, that's good. Um, I didn't have, all I had at that party was coffee, basically.

• 42:19Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 42:20Cameron Hanes?

  So I had like two coffees.

• 42:22Speaker 01

  I had water that tasted a lot like tequila.

• 42:25Cameron Hanes?

  I saw that.

• 42:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 42:26Cameron Hanes?

  I did notice that.

• 42:27Speaker 01

  I had.

• 42:28Cameron Hanes?

  But, but you had to drive, so that was good.

• 42:30Speaker 01

  Well, right, yeah, I had two of them. Uh, but the problem was, is the last one I got, they were closing the bar, or maybe it was last call.

• 42:38Cameron Hanes?

  Filled it up with tequila.

• 42:39Speaker 01

  I think the bartender was trying to get me drunk. Granted, he was really hot, so I didn't mind. But yeah, the second one, I didn't even finish it because my cup was all the way full of tequila. I'm like.

• 42:50Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 42:50Speaker 01

  Holy shit, but no.

• 42:53Cameron Hanes?

  I don't, I have a hard enough time.

• 42:57Cameron Hanes?

  Not making poor decisions sober.

• 43:00Speaker 01

  My thought process was my social anxiety was so bad. I was like, maybe this will loosen me up.

• 43:06Cameron Hanes?

  You seem fine. I mean, you seem fine.

• 43:08Speaker 01

  Well, until you, well, there's no pictures of me in the background. I wanted to, I wanted some photos of me just like kind of lurking in the background.

• 43:16Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, I know that like caught off guard. Yeah.

• 43:19Speaker 01

  I could just.

• 43:20Cameron Hanes?

  No, she hasn't. She hasn't sent me. What did I get?

• 43:24Speaker 01

  Well, maybe they're just sending them out individually.

• 43:26Cameron Hanes?

  So I got three texts since we started this. Whistling Diesel, Jelly and Chris Williamson.

• 43:33Cameron Hanes?

  You know what? So Joey said, someone just told me our running video is going viral. I would say. I don't know what viral is, but that video he put up of us running, let me see what it, what is that?

• 43:51Cameron Hanes?

  Okay. Not too bad. 18 million views.

• 43:58Cameron Hanes?

  1.3 million likes.

• 44:00Speaker 01

  Is that good or?

• 44:01Cameron Hanes?

  107,000 comments.

• 44:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, that, that might be viral.

• 44:08Cameron Hanes?

  Holy shit. But him running as well as he was on his 40, 41st first birthday and then saying like normally he'd get drunk and do cocaine or whatever he'd do. But instead he's running in the morning. So powerful. So powerful.

• 44:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, that was pretty incredible. But anyways, that was the out party. I got a holster from Santa.

• 44:34Speaker 01

  And a metal can.

• 44:35Cameron Hanes?

  Nice.

• 44:37Speaker 01

  And then we left.

• 44:38Cameron Hanes?

  Those don't make me sick. So that's good because I swallowed one that night.

• 44:43Speaker 01

  It's gonna happen.

• 44:43Cameron Hanes?

  I know. Yeah. So that, but that was fun party. Thank you, Tucker Carlson. Thank you, Lexi Sin-Saroni or something like that. Is that her last name?

• 44:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 44:56Cameron Hanes?

  Anyway, she's a badass. Love her. Um, everybody there is amazing.

• 45:02Speaker 01

  Brigham was there.

• 45:03Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, Brigham shit. Yeah, Brigham. Oh, Willie Robertson from Duck Commander.

• 45:10Speaker 01

  Duck Dynasty.

• 45:11Cameron Hanes?

  Duck Dynasty.

• 45:12Speaker 01

  Josh Smith.

• 45:13Cameron Hanes?

  Josh Smith. Yeah. Who else was standing there? Oh, Kid Rock's son.

• 45:19Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 45:22Cameron Hanes?

  Travis Tritt's kids.

• 45:24Speaker 01

  Anyway, so that was that. Went back to the hotel. Um, then that was it. Got breakfast. Actually, surprisingly, we had no hiccups with the flights or the airport.

• 45:38Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, after breakfast, though.

• 45:41Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, that's right. We went running.

• 45:43Cameron Hanes?

  That was Joey's birthday.

• 45:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 45:45Cameron Hanes?

  So that's when we went and went on our three and a half mile run. He did a bunch of hills, crushed it, did his viral video.

• 45:53Speaker 01

  Ran the hill nonstop.

• 45:55Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 45:55Speaker 01

  Three times.

• 45:56Cameron Hanes?

  Did so good. And, uh, yeah, that was, that was just amazing. I mean, yeah, again, to start his birthday like that, it's pretty surreal.

• 46:04Speaker 01

  Yeah. I, uh, you know, that, that morning when we met him, sitting down in his, at his house and he comes down the stairs and we talked about this, but he's like, oh, something's been weighing heavy on my mind. Like, oh, what is it? And he's like, your name is James, right? I was like, yeah. And he's like, I was coming down the stairs and I was feeling confident and I was gonna bust in here and say, what's up, James? But I got cold feet. We were talking, he's like, who says that?

• 46:32Cameron Hanes?

  I know. He didn't, he thought he, I mean, he's met you a few times. So he's like, he can't just like, say the wrong name after meeting you so many times. But, and so many people face that dilemma. Like I do all the time. I'm like, what is his name? Like, hey bud, you know, you just don't say the name. So, but he verbalized it and was so, he's so honest about everything, just saying he wanted to come down confident, say your name, but then he was like, got cold feet, wasn't sure. And then turn, you know, was just honest about the whole thing. But that's why,

• 47:08Cameron Hanes?

  I don't know who wouldn't love him.

• 47:10Speaker 01

  No.

• 47:10Cameron Hanes?

  He is.

• 47:11Speaker 01

  Does he have haters?

• 47:14Cameron Hanes?

  I don't get it. He does somehow, but I saw people saying shit like,

• 47:21Cameron Hanes?

  People are so weird, like, uh, I don't know, just saying stuff like, you know, if they say celebrities sold their soul to, like, they had a picture of him where, and they're saying like, look at his eyes. It's like, what the are you talking about? Like, somehow you could look at some weird, random picture and be like, say that, oh, that's how he got this fame or whatever, because he, I don't even know what people are talking about.

• 47:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:51Cameron Hanes?

  I don't even know what selling your soul actually, they probably say I have too.

• 47:55Speaker 01

  Yeah. Hey, you guys, go ahead, go to my Instagram page, you'll see I'm an absolute nobody. Uh, I have not been bought out by anybody. Let me tell you, he is not a lizard person.

• 48:07Cameron Hanes?

  God, that's what, people are nuts. I mean, I've seen this whole video thing about people analyzing, and then like, who he signed with and who his agent is, and it's just something like, Jay-Z and like this, whatever, they're related or linked to this and like, what the are you guys doing? Are you that nuts? You got nothing else to do?

• 48:29Speaker 01

  I, I think people get into this mindset where like, they don't think celebrities are real people.

• 48:36Cameron Hanes?

  I don't, I don't even.

• 48:38Speaker 01

  I don't know if they can't fathom it or, or what it is, but,

• 48:43Speaker 01

  like I said, I'm a nobody.

• 48:44Cameron Hanes?

  I've, I've met now, I'm not trying to big dick flex, but people who would be like, in the category of the lizard people or the soldier, so these people are the most genuine, nicest people.

• 49:01Speaker 01

  Well, that's how they get you.

• 49:03Cameron Hanes?

  Right. See, you get your guard down.

• 49:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 49:06Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, guys, relax.

• 49:10Speaker 01

  Yeah. And if that's selling your soul, and that's.

• 49:13Cameron Hanes?

  Being nice and successful?

• 49:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 49:17Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, just relax.

• 49:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 49:20Cameron Hanes?

  Holy shit.

• 49:21Speaker 01

  That being said, if there is somebody that wants to buy me out.

• 49:24Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 49:25Speaker 01

  Door's open.

• 49:26Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 49:27Speaker 01

  Inbox is empty.

• 49:28Cameron Hanes?

  Whatever it takes, you're ready.

• 49:30Speaker 01

  I'll do whatever humiliation ritual I have to.

• 49:35Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, I, I don't know, some of the stuff, you know, I guess it's, I don't know. I don't even know what to say.

• 49:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's, uh, I mean, to be fair, I guess. It was not too many moons ago where I had not met any of these people. I don't know about selling your soul, but you can definitely, you try to make a judgment based off of what you see, which is the crazy thing, because what you see on Jelly Roll is like, he's the nicest person. You know what I mean?

• 50:05Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, what are you getting this from?

• 50:07Speaker 01

  It's just gotta come from hate, I guess, or jealousy. But yeah, I mean, no.

• 50:11Cameron Hanes?

  Or does people weird, being weird?

• 50:13Speaker 01

  They're, they're real people. They live and breathe the same air that we do. So.

• 50:18Cameron Hanes?

  I mean, and you won't find, most people don't talk about their flaws or their, or their shit that they're like self-conscious about. Jelly Roll talks about everything. He's so honest and genuine. It's like, wha- what the are you guys talking about?

• 50:41Cameron Hanes?

  I seriously, I, I can't even, I look at some of that and I'm just like,

• 50:47Cameron Hanes?

  you know, I mean, even Travis Barker, which I, I've spent time with him quite a bit now. Nicest person ever. Most generous person ever.

• 50:58Speaker 01

  Yeah. I mean, here's, here's the thing is people like that, who are approached by everybody, who everybody wants a piece of their time. I never once with Jelly Roll have felt like he didn't, I mean, when I, when I'm sitting there, he looks me dead in the eye and he's like, how are you doing?

• 51:14Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, I know.

• 51:16Speaker 01

  I mean, he is not trying to get away from the conversation. He genuinely wants to know.

• 51:20Cameron Hanes?

  No, and he'll, he'll be like, however many people are there, he's looking at each one. You know what I mean? You know how some people don't do that? Like though, if you come up late, you might not be in this conversation at all. You're just kind of like weird outsider. But if you came up late and he was talking, he would, it just acknowledged you. And just like, look at you like, you know, like, oh, I'm, I'm part of this.

• 51:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:44Cameron Hanes?

  But just little stuff like that, which most time people, if they do have big egos or they have been very successful, they kind of lose that skill sometimes, I guess, a little bit.

• 51:56Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 51:56Cameron Hanes?

  He is so.

• 51:59Cameron Hanes?

  I almost said inclusive, which I hate that word, but he's like so like, I just keep saying genuine and just cares.

• 52:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, someone else that, and I do notice that like eye contact thing, which he does when he's talking, he'll, he'll look at everybody. But someone else that impressed me was Theo. Met him on early in the night and then like halfway through was talking to him again. He's like, your name is James, right? And I'm like, how many people have you met tonight?

• 52:24Cameron Hanes?

  I know.

• 52:24Speaker 01

  And you remembered my name?

• 52:25Cameron Hanes?

  Right, I know.

• 52:26Speaker 01

  It's insane.

• 52:27Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, it's a just, just good people. And then I guess when you're successful, you are going to get criticized by people who are miserable. And I think that that's what it is because all the people you mentioned get hate for whatever reason, or that we mentioned.

• 52:46Cameron Hanes?

  But yeah, I mean, maybe I don't know how it works. Maybe they, maybe they're getting ready to contact me about, about

• 52:55Speaker 01

  Your car's extending warranty.

• 52:59Speaker 01

  Well, if you look in the background, you know, there's a triangle.

• 53:01Cameron Hanes?

  My Illuminati application, I know. If I stand like this, isn't this something?

• 53:07Speaker 01

  Yeah. And then you have to put your dick through it.

• 53:12Cameron Hanes?

  And balls. And this is my cock ring.

• 53:16Speaker 01

  Don't forget about the balls.

• 53:20Cameron Hanes?

  I don't know. I just, I, I did see a weird video the other day. Like this is supposed to be something.

• 53:28Cameron Hanes?

  All of that, but I saw it was like Jared Kushner. Was that who it was? Or was it maybe one of the Trumps? Maybe it's Eric Trump. Maybe that's who it was.

• 53:39Speaker 01

  Maybe.

• 53:40Cameron Hanes?

  But like intentionally stood like this and his wife came up and like, grabbed his arm. That seemed weird.

• 53:49Speaker 01

  Lizard person.

• 53:52Cameron Hanes?

  But here now, now I'm the one coming up with this shit. But anyway, that I think that's how it kind of gets. So yeah, maybe I'm part of the problem.

• 54:03Speaker 01

  You have been bought out.

• 54:04Cameron Hanes?

  But anyway, we're, we're, I guess I'm going to be getting that Illuminati application so I can be part of the club and then I'll learn all about the hand signals.

• 54:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:15Cameron Hanes?

  Until now, I haven't heard shit about it and nobody's talked about it. I don't know. All these lizard people haven't talked to me about becoming a lizard person. So I don't know what it takes.

• 54:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:26Cameron Hanes?

  It seems like somebody be talking to me by now.

• 54:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't know. And I mean, people aren't going to believe this because they suck, but it's like, we're having conversations with these people off the record. You know, they could say they're a lizard person and they don't.

• 54:43Cameron Hanes?

  Well, this one is like, even that part is like, no phones, no this or that is like, you could, they're people, come on.

• 54:52Speaker 01

  I did some old shed skin in the bathroom, you know, so.

• 54:56Cameron Hanes?

  Is that what somebody threw up in the toilet?

• 54:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:59Cameron Hanes?

  That's why it wasn't going down.

• 55:01Speaker 01

  Yeah. No, but anyways, that was, I mean, that was kind of our trip to Nashville. I had never been.

• 55:08Cameron Hanes?

  To Nashville?

• 55:09Speaker 01

  No, to Tennessee. We didn't even get any barbecue. Isn't that what Nashville is known for?

• 55:15Cameron Hanes?

  I thought that was Austin, like Terry Black's barbecue.

• 55:17Speaker 01

  Well, that too. I thought Nashville was like barbecue and hookers. I got the hooker part.

• 55:25Speaker 01

  The guys and the.

• 55:26Cameron Hanes?

  The call boys.

• 55:29Speaker 01

  Did somebody here order a stripper and it's just me?

• 55:34Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 55:42Speaker 01

  So, yeah, that's what we got some stuff on the horizon though. Quick turnaround.

• 55:49Cameron Hanes?

  God, no. Yeah, um, I gotta get in shape real quick and then we're going to go to Texas and then kill some bucks and kill some other shit. Um, doing, I don't want to say what I'm doing. Never mind. I'm not doing anything, but I am going to Texas.

• 56:08Speaker 01

  Good.

• 56:11Cameron Hanes?

  And yeah, we will have a couple good. I got, we're on the, we're on the tail end of our hunting hunting season finally. Got a few more, maybe get a few more arrows loosed and then we'll be done for the year. But yeah, new bow sick, new string on it sick, dialed in, shot out at one animal, killed it, one arrow. Where, where are those hours anyway?

• 56:36Speaker 01

  Are they still at?

• 56:38Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, I don't know where they are somewhere. But yeah, it was a, it was a good trip. Oh, the bow hunter.

• 56:46Speaker 01

  Oh, the bow hunter. Yeah, coming.

• 56:50Speaker 01

  Well, that would be next Sunday.

• 56:51Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 56:51Speaker 01

  So get ready.

• 56:54Speaker 01

  If there's any mean comments, I will kill myself.

• 56:56Cameron Hanes?

  How's, how's it coming?

• 56:58Speaker 01

  It's good.

• 56:58Cameron Hanes?

  How do you feel?

• 56:59Speaker 01

  I, yeah, the, the process has been classic.

• 57:07Speaker 01

  It has been the norm, but started terrible and now we've got it to a better point.

• 57:13Cameron Hanes?

  I think it's gonna be good. I think, well, I don't know who's to say good, but I think people will like it. How about that?

• 57:20Speaker 01

  I hope so.

• 57:20Cameron Hanes?

  Don't you think?

• 57:21Speaker 01

  I hope so.

• 57:22Cameron Hanes?

  Lisa was asking me about, they're having a watch party.

• 57:25Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 57:26Cameron Hanes?

  So she was like saying, everybody comes in, they're out, everybody's asking, when is it, when's it supposed to be? She's like, I've seen exactly what you've seen, only what Cam has posted. So I don't know anything. But yeah, people are, I think it's gonna be perfect timing because next Sunday is the last day of late season blacktail. Pretty much that's the end of hunting for everybody. So people are gonna be like, after hunting season, then you just like, okay, let's, let's just enjoy hunting films and think about next year.

• 57:54Speaker 01

  Yeah. I don't know. I'm proud of it. So I guess that's not what matters, but.

• 58:01Cameron Hanes?

  Where's, where's my edited version?

• 58:03Speaker 01

  It's coming. Yeah, I got the subtitles done. So.

• 58:07Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, you did?

• 58:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 58:07Cameron Hanes?

  Okay, good.

• 58:08Speaker 01

  I got a plug in.

• 58:11Speaker 01

  The clips you sent me from your first trip to Winnebago, but yeah, I'll export it tonight.

• 58:16Cameron Hanes?

  So yeah, cool.

• 58:17Speaker 01

  Then you can watch it.

• 58:18Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah, we, I had you add subtitles to the whole thing after I watched. That's another thing. Did Ella get in touch with you to get ahold of me?

• 58:29Speaker 01

  Langley?

• 58:29Cameron Hanes?

  Yeah.

• 58:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, sorry. I spaced that. I'll, yeah, I'll forward it to you.

• 58:34Cameron Hanes?

  Thank you. But yeah, so watching, choosing Texas or choose in Texas, her video, she had captions in the whole thing, which I'm like, you know, people are so used to like, especially hunting where you're talking in a low tone. I think captions help and then, yeah.

• 58:50Speaker 01

  And we wanted to be inclusive, deaf people.

• 58:52Cameron Hanes?

  Right.

• 58:52Speaker 01

  So.

• 58:53Cameron Hanes?

  Be on the lookout for the bow hunter.

• 58:57Cameron Hanes?

  And yeah, that's about it. I think. Is that all you had?

• 59:02Speaker 01

  That's it.

• 59:03Cameron Hanes?

  Okay. Well.

• 59:04Speaker 01

  When's your Ferrari coming?

• 59:06Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, I know.

• 59:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's the real question.

• 59:10Cameron Hanes?

  I don't know. It seemed a little bit out of my, from what he said price wise. I think I'm gonna have to, I'll just ease into the rolls first.

• 59:19Speaker 01

  Okay. Yeah. I'll split one with you. Like, I'll drive it.

• 59:25Cameron Hanes?

  I'd pay for it. The next giveaway, I think almost a hundred percent positive is gonna be a Rolls Royce.

• 59:32Speaker 01

  So for those of you out there that said, I just want a truck.

• 59:36Cameron Hanes?

  Then don't buy anything.

• 59:38Speaker 01

  Get loser.

• 59:40Cameron Hanes?

  Get lizard person.

• 59:41Speaker 01

  With all love.

• 59:43Cameron Hanes?

  Oh, that's right.

• 59:44Speaker 01

  Where the hell are our shirts?

• 59:46Cameron Hanes?

  Where are our shirts? We got, we got a line of customers who want those shit talkers weekly shirts. All right, guys. It's all love. Anything we said here can't be used against us in a court of law because it's shit talkers.

• 1:00:02Cameron Hanes?

  And Macy, please clean this up.

• 1:00:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

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