Macron Shoved, Trump BLASTS Putin, Jordan Peterson DESTROYED & Ron DeSantis BOOED! | PBD Podcast | Ep. 592

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick cover French President Emmanuel Macron’s shocking shove during a heated public exchange, Trump’s escalating feud with Apple CEO Tim Cook, Jordan Peterson gets destroyed during a debate, and Ron DeSantis gets booed at WWE. ------ 🏋️ VT ATHLEISURE COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/4mEY1jo 🖥️ VT WEBINAR: HOW TO BE A KILLER IN BUSINESS WITHOUT KILLING YOUR MARRIAGE | JUNE 11TH | 12:30PM: https://bit.ly/4hVTkPK 🎫 THE VAULT 2025 | SEPT 8TH - 11TH | THE GAYLORD PALMS | ORLANDO, FL: https://bit.ly/4dJlmfL 🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: https://bit.ly/4jYg3Lh 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A 📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7 📰 VTNEWS. AI: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ 🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! SUBSCRIBE TO:‪@VALUETAINMENT‬ ‪@ValuetainmentComedy‬ ‪@theunusualsuspectspodcast‬ ‪@HerTakePod‬ ‪@bizdocpodcast‬ ABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:14Speaker 00

  My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.

• 0:18Speaker 00

  You are a one of one?

• 0:19Speaker 01

  My son's right, man.

• 0:20Speaker 00

  I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 0:28Patrick Bet-David?

  And I know a lot of you guys have been waiting, but those of you who have, we have a big show here for you today. We are not in the States, if you don't already know. This isn't the usual set, guys. We are out of the country. By the end or middle of the podcast, we may reveal a video to kind of show to you where we are for some of you guys that don't know. I'll maybe give you a little bit of a hint why we're here, why we decided to be here at a crazy time like this with all the stuff that's going on for us. But there's a lot of stories that's going on, and I have so many opinions. I know Tom does. I know a lot of us do. And I'm sure some of you guys do as well on these topics that we'll cover here. Let me kind of get into some of them. Again, it's one of those things where I feel like we haven't done a podcast for quite a few days, and so much has happened. Putin is, uh, Trump is not happy with Putin. Yep.

• 1:11Patrick Bet-David?

  On a call, he specifically said, "I am not happy with what he's doing." We'll talk about that. Uh, even calling him crazy. Crazy, all caps. All caps, calling him crazy. Katelyn Clark is driving the WNBA insane. It's to the point that she may need to step away from the WNBA, have a billionaire come in that has the money to prove a point, and say, "Katelyn, I'll pay you $50 million just to see if the WNBA can make it without you. Let's go create a completely different league and expose the hell out of the WNBA just to embarrass this Angel Reese girl that Jemele Hill just said. She could go down as a Michael Jordan of WNBA." Yeah.

• 1:50Patrick Bet-David?

  And what, wait till I show you a couple of statistics here. And then Ryan Clark made a comment about, you know, RG3 and saying RG3, "You wouldn't know what it's like. You're married to a white woman." This thing got very ugly, very quickly. And then Brittany Griner, this guy out of nowhere comes out and, what happened?

• 2:05Speaker 03

  This guy out of nowhere?

• 2:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, he didn't he doesn't he shoot without a shirt on like isn't it I thought it's a

• 2:10Tom Ellsworth?

  I mean he I saw him shooting at his pool and he was just

• 2:13Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm under the impression it's a transgender it's not like

• 2:15Tom Ellsworth?

  He was wearing surf trunks by the pool shooting baskets baby

• 2:18Speaker 03

  I'm being genuinely confused she may be a he

• 2:21Patrick Bet-David?

  It may be I thought it's a guy but

• 2:22Tom Ellsworth?

  When the topless pool sent the friends

• 2:24Patrick Bet-David?

  He he Brittany let's just say Brittany comes out and Brittany makes some comments saying I miss the good old WNBA days when the audience weren't here and it wasn't packed it was more like a and she calls he she calls Kaitlyn a white trash and by the way you know what happens to Kaitlyn? We'll talk about that here when something happens to Kaitlyn it's gonna

• 2:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh really?

• 2:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Mix it up yes Trump is giving a speech and he starts talking about trophy wives which by the way it's another one of those funny things but you gotta love this guy that he'll say things that drive a lot of other people insane Cuomo made some comments on the religion of Islam Tommy Robinson's officially free there's a TV network in Lebanon that I want to show you one of these clips of this man who's a host who happens to be Muslim and on this Lebanon broadcasting internationally and he interviews

• 3:06Tom Ellsworth?

  LBC

• 3:07Patrick Bet-David?

  10 year old 13 year old girls that are with a 27 year old man crying it's it's wild LBC and it's not for the LBC you think about this is a different LBC uh like I'm talking like Long Beach Crip this is we're talking about the radio station and TV station on on Lebanon and then uh Oprah I got an old clip of Oprah I want to show very old clip of Oprah I want to show to you guys money market a very interesting data was shared by Shamath the other day that I retweeted that shows how much money is in uh money market today it's the highest money we've ever had in money markets ever it's not really a good sign because a money market where you go is to play safe because you don't really know what's going on with the market I'll show it to you guys I'm

• 3:50Patrick Bet-David?

  sure Tom's got some thoughts Jordan Peterson did one of these Jubilee type of shows you know the where they kind of sit there and talk then he's talking to all these other this other Christian one of the Christian kids said something and it seemed like to be a little bit of a clash I actually want to get Tom's thoughts as well as your thoughts on it Harvard Harvard foreign student uh You know, are upset at Trump. Kristi Noem came and said something to Harvard directly. Trump is thinking about taking 3 billion of money out from Harvard to give it to trade schools. Very interesting what is formulating over there. One fun fact about the MB, I want to kind of reveal to you guys. And I saw this, I said, you know what I think could be a story all the way at the end that we can talk about. Nuclear energy. There's a story about nuclear energy and what the president is doing to accelerate.

• 4:32Patrick Bet-David?

  We right now, I think, only have one in development right now that are waiting for permits. China's got 18 pending. That they're already going through and they're accelerating and our permits are slowing down the process of coming up with these next nuclear plans, which we do need. Tim Cook may get a 25% tariff tax. If he doesn't build these iPhones in the States, Trump's not happy about it. We'll see what's gonna happen there. And then Tim Cook makes a phone call to the Texas governor about these safety, child safety legislation that I think maybe a little bit of Leila Mickelwitz was pushing with the guest that we had on the podcast because she was going after Pornhub and we had the owners of Pornhub here on the podcast. Shipping costs for companies may double due to the China-US trade war that's taking place.

• 5:14Patrick Bet-David?

  There was a, I think it was a five-year anniversary of George Floyd's, uh, uh, uh...

• 5:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Overdose.

• 5:19Patrick Bet-David?

  He overdosed. Yeah, it was a five-year anniversary of it.

• 5:21Tom Ellsworth?

  He did overdose.

• 5:22Patrick Bet-David?

  And then there was a major boycotting of Target. Target is in the middle of this. They don't know how to handle it. You should have seen this mayor crying. It's a lot of spectacles going on, but we'll talk about that. Macron got hit by his husband and it was a very weird situation when you saw this because...

• 5:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Hey, Pat, boys will be boys.

• 5:38Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, it is what it is. A part of it is...

• 5:40Tom Ellsworth?

  Still rascals.

• 5:41Patrick Bet-David?

  At this point of the game, listen.

• 5:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Getting off an airplane, maybe he didn't let him sit in first class or something.

• 5:45Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know what it was, but it was, it was pretty upsetting. It was a pretty upsetting on what happened. MTG, uh, she had something that happened with a, with a, with Grok, I believe. They had a feud because somebody said, is she still a Christian? Is she not a Christian? What's going on? And she got upset and she went after it. And then there was another chatbot, which, folks, this is crazy. Another chatbot threatened the user that if you, if you share this with others, I'm gonna tell your wife that you're having an affair because I know what you're searching based on... Your phones. I had some creepy stuff right there.

• 6:19Tom Ellsworth?

  And it searched his email on his computer.

• 6:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you, that is gonna be some real stuff for some guys. Holy moly.

• 6:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Exactly.

• 6:29Patrick Bet-David?

  So guys, before you get your phone with all the different chatbots, you may want to listen up to this one here. Let's just kind of clean up your life and get rid of some distraction. All right, Iran, the fifth round of negotiation. There's a profile. I found a video about back in the days what Iran's, what the US CIA's profile was on the Shah and they broke it down. Very interesting to watch. I found a clip of the Shah with Walt Disney that we got to see as well. And we got a few other things here. I believe we have Adam. Adam, tell us, let's see how you sound. Can you say a few words, Adam, to see if we can hear you loud and clear?

• 7:02Speaker 03

  He's not listening.

• 7:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, can you hear us or no?

• 7:06Speaker 03

  No.

• 7:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Adam, we can't, we can't hear the dialogue on the Nutrisystem.

• 7:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, if you want to, if you want to speak with him and maybe tell him to turn off that adult movie that's playing in the background. But anyways, all right, so we'll figure this thing out. Everybody's in different places. We've done it before. If not, we got a lot of stores we'll do here in house as well. All right, before we get into it, I want to share with you guys. One of the biggest things that we had is a lot of people were saying, well, Pat, you know, some of the stuff that I have, I can't wear it to the gym. Can we get them by a gym gear? And we finally got it and our model that we hired is kind of a big deal. We are this good looking Assyrian guy who happens to be single with one of our friends here, Natalia. Rob, can you show us the new gear we have with ValueTainment merch for those that go to the gym and workout? Go for it, Rob.

• 8:03Patrick Bet-David?

  That's it.

• 8:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Look at those legs, Pat.

• 8:15Tom Ellsworth?

  You seen that little wink at the end there?

• 8:19Speaker 03

  I saw that on else for you, baby.

• 8:21Tom Ellsworth?

  The future looks strong and sweaty.

• 8:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Go to VTmerch.com, place your order, get your gear, go to the gym, support the future looks bright, and anybody that places an order, you get a I love VT keychain being sent your way. Okay, so let's get right into the podcast. Rob, for whatever reason, I want to kind of start off with a different story here today if we can. I think we start off with this story about Trump and Putin. So if you have the clip of Trump not being happy with Putin, calling him crazy, I'll read the story here and then we'll get into it. So Trump says he's not happy with Putin after massive Ukraine strike. Now you got to keep in mind, the president has been negotiating hardcore with Putin to get things done there, but he's not listening.

• 9:06Patrick Bet-David?

  And President Trump expressed strong disapproval of Vladimir Putin's actions, stating that at Morristown Municipal Airport, and here's what he had to say, go for it, Rob.

• 9:13Speaker 05

  Yeah, I'll give you an update. I'm not happy with what Putin's doing. He's killing a lot of people and I don't know what the hell happened to Putin. I've known him a long time, always gotten along with him, but he's sending rockets into cities and killing people, and I don't like it at all, okay? We're in the middle of talking and he's shooting rockets into Kiev and other cities. I don't like it at all. President, what do you want to do about that? And I'm surprised, I'm very surprised. We'll see what we're going to do. What am I going to tell you? You're the fake news, aren't you? You're totally fake. All right, any other questions? I don't like what Putin is doing, not even a little bit. He's killing people and something happened to this guy and I don't like it.

• 9:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, your thoughts on this?

• 9:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, the president's being very clear here, absolutely clear, but you know what? He doesn't negotiate with the media, in front of the media, nor does he give the media anything other than what he wants them to run with. And what I think was happening behind closed doors is, he really thought, two weekends ago, that he had Putin and he had Zelensky kind of walking to a bridge. Walking on a bridge here, not to blow it up, not to jump off, but a bridge of understanding and kind of a bridge of solution. And all of a sudden, you've got additional rockets going off that multiple sources have confirmed, and worse, they were hitting civilian areas, not military targets. And so you can kind of see the ire in the president's voice there about you're hitting, you're killing people, you're launching these rockets, and he named one of the small cities there.

• 10:44Tom Ellsworth?

  And so I think he's very frustrated with that. And on the other side, you've also heard him be equally frustrated with Zelensky. And he was saying, Zelensky's been saying some things, and he better knock it off, and he better, and he, there was a warning to Zelensky versus a statement to Putin. That's what I heard. The statement to Putin was, I don't like it at all. To Zelensky, it was, he better knock off these things he's saying, and he better knock it off soon. That's a different tone to both men, even though Trump is in the middle, thought he had a bridge, it sounded like, two weeks ago, and is very frustrated at this moment.

• 11:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, before I come to you, turn off the TV behind you. Vinny, what are your thoughts on this?

• 11:20Speaker 03

  Well, I think, Pat, this goes to show, like, I remember all the years that we had to hear what Trump is Putin's puppet, and Putin's, Putin's puppet would never, ever talk like that. He is pissed off because he had them both at the negotiating table, okay? This war did not start under him. He's trying to clean up the mess from the other previous administration. I'm not ever gonna say Biden administration ever again, Pat, because it had nothing to do with Joe Biden. This is all because of their fault. Joe Biden said, out of his mouth, he said, you know what? If Russia invades Ukraine, if it's a minor incursion, eh, it's all good. He invited them to go do it, and now he's cleaning up a mess. And Putin, I'm telling you right now, Putin is not going to budge, especially with NATO trying to creep in, which they promised them. Remember, who was this time? Who wasn't that said, "Nyet" means "Nyet"?

• 12:05Speaker 03

  Not going in at all. And this is just a direct result because Zelensky's acting like a little spoiled little brat that they freaking created, and Putin is a boss that they pushed to the limit, and this is what we get because of it.

• 12:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, your thoughts?

• 12:17Adam Sosnick?

  So first, can you hear me okay?

• 12:18Patrick Bet-David?

  I can't, yeah.

• 12:20Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, great. Um, I think, you know, Vinnie, as, as much as I love you and respect you, you couldn't be further off from what is happening here. The reason I say that is this. Trump is realizing in real time that Putin is the problem. Putin is the bad guy. Putin is the autocratic thug that cannot be controlled. As much as Zelensky is annoying and feminine and taking our money, at least he's an ally. In my opinion, Putin's looking at the situation and saying the following. "Oh, you thought you were gonna end this in day one, really, Mr. President? You thought you were gonna come in and just dictate what the new world order was gonna be?

• 13:05Adam Sosnick?

  Really, Mr. President? Well, let me show you how I operate. I've been running Russia for 25 years. What you say is irrelevant to me. And in my opinion, Putin is doing this just to piss off Donald Trump. So we're gonna see where this relationship goes."

• 13:22Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I, I like what you're saying. I like what you're saying. I'm gonna give you a twist to it. Let me give you guys a twist. Here's what I'd love to see. And I would love to see Trump go so hard on Putin and to watch Democrats the next day become Putin fans and hate Ukraine. You know, I mean, these guys are so, I guarantee you, if Trump all of a sudden went hardcore on Putin and said, "He's a this, he's a dictator, he's a this", overnight, you would see the Dems sitting there, "Oh no, oh my God, you know, this is not fair, what he's doing". It would be the 80-20 split and they would take the other side on what's going on there. But the reality of it is, you know what Putin is saying? He's his own guy. And, and, and it's showing that when it comes down to this negotiation with these two guys, it's a lot harder than he thought it was going to be.

• 14:04Adam Sosnick?

  Of course.

• 14:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Whether this is gonna get done or not, who knows whether it's gonna get done? They're all playing power games right now. And everybody wants something in the deals and someone's not happy. Sometimes when you go through this kind of stuff, it happens in business all the time, where something, some offer was made, then you flipped, then you lose the guy, then you want the guy to come back and negotiate with you, but you lost trust with them, because now you haven't kept your word. On three different instances, the guy doesn't trust you moving forward. It could be on anything that a company is doing. It could be a bonus you were paying. It could be a anything that you're doing like, listen, I just don't trust what this guy's going to be doing because this is not becoming a track record. So if behind closed doors, promises were made on deals that are not being kept, someone is not happy.

• 14:45Patrick Bet-David?

  If then Putin thinks that a side deal is happening with Zelensky that he's not aware of, that now Trump is going and siding with him, Putin is going to sit there and say, listen, I'm not in a hurry to doing any deals with you. I'm going to keep going as far as I'm going to be going. If you're now siding with that over then, you know, over a deal you were doing with me. Because at this point, the minerals deals he wanted from Zelensky is what? It's done. They got it in place. But he hasn't gotten Putin to slow down with the fight. So that that may take a minute as they're going through it. It doesn't seem like Putin is going to be listening. Rob, what is this clip that you have here, Rob? Sky News reporting, Sky News reporting on the Kremlin calling Trump emotionally overloaded. Really? Go for it. Play the clip.

• 15:28Speaker 07

  From the Kremlin now, this is being brought to us by the Reuters news agency responding to their remarks made by Donald Trump regarding Vladimir Putin. And the Kremlin says there is some emotional overload at this crucial moment. That is the line being brought to us, quoting the Kremlin, saying though, that despite Donald Trump saying that Vladimir Putin has gone, I quote, absolutely crazy, the Kremlin saying we are grateful to Trump for assistance in launching the Ukraine peace negotiations. And that Russia, it says, had taken decisions necessary for the security of Russia and that it claims that the strikes on Ukraine were on military targets.

• 16:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Why are they showing an old clip of them having John Bolton there? Sky News has shown this thing. Very interesting to show a clip from back in the days.

• 16:20Tom Ellsworth?

  And Mnuchin.

• 16:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, Mnuchin and Ivanka and Jared and a lot of these guys that are not showing the new regime that's there. All in all, you know, Putin is going to say all that stuff to try to get under his skin. This is a clip from 2019. But this seems to be a little bit of a more difficult task for him than it seemed like while he was in office.

• 16:37Speaker 03

  But who's fault, and Adam, I respect you for having your opinion, but at the end of the day, none of this happens if it wasn't for the last administration. Putin wasn't doing anything. He was at bay, he was chilling, zero. Now it's a shitstorm because you propped up one guy, they made all of us think the other guy was Satan, as if we're innocent as a country as well. I'm not, I don't buy it, bro. I don't buy it at all. And I think it's, we created two freaking monsters, and then, and then by the way, Zelensky, he's our ally? What has, what has he done for us, Adam? I'm just very curious. I know Pat wants to go to the next story. What, what is Ukraine doing for us? How is Ukraine helping the United States of America? How are they allied, besides sucking us dry for all of our money?

• 17:20Speaker 03

  Taking advantage of our old administration with the son and the dad and all those deals? I don't see any positive coming out of Ukraine. What, can you give me one except hot girls? No, I'm being dead serious.

• 17:33Adam Sosnick?

  Don't ever, don't ever downplay that. Let's just be clear on that.

• 17:36Speaker 03

  But I'm just saying.

• 17:37Adam Sosnick?

  But, everything you said was correct, you know, as far as, if we want to play Monday morning quarterback of why we got here, that's great, you're right. But how the hell does that help us end the war? It, it could have been prevented, sure, if, if Trump was the president, none of this would have happened, the red line, sure. But that doesn't help us end the war now. And you are right, like, Ukraine, up until now, was not an ally to the United States. They're not a member of NATO. You are, you are right about that. But, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Let's never forget that. We're learning in real time that Russia, as much as certain people want to twist it,

• 18:17Adam Sosnick?

  the Tucker Carlsons of the world, how they want to be sycophants to Putin's Russia, they are not our ally. The Cold War is still not over, and Putin is a legacy of the Cold War. And we're learning in real time how this guy wants to operate. That's my opinion.

• 18:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Alright, let's go to the next story here, guys. Next story I want to go to is, a story, two stories having to do with Tim Cook. So one of them is, having to do with tariffs. The other one is about him and, uh... Uh, the governor of Texas, two different things, but both very, very interesting. I'll start off with the first one. Uh, Rob, I don't know if we have a clip on this one or not. We do. Okay, so let's go through the first one. So Trump-Apple relationship devolves with threats. This is The Hill. President Trump threatened a 25% tariff on Apple products if the company does not shift more manufacturers to the US, stating, "I have long ago informed Tim Cook of Apple that I expect their iPhones that will be sold in the US will be manufactured and built in the US as well."

• 19:19Patrick Bet-David?

  And later told reporters, "The iPhone, if they're going to sell it in America, I want it to be built in the US." This marks a shift from the cordial relationship during Trump's first term, when Apple secured tariffs exemption, as Cook now faces pressure despite a $500 billion US investment pledge, including a new Texas factory. The tariff threat, part of Trump's broader push to reshore manufacturing, follows Apple's supplier Foxconn, $1.5 billion investment in India, prompting Trump to say, "I said to him, Tim, you are my friend. I don't want you to build in India." Rob, is this the clip? Yes. Go for it, Rob.

• 19:55Speaker 07

  President, on Apple, on Apple, you said this morning that if they don't make their iPhones in the US, you're going to hit them with a 25% tariff.

• 20:03Speaker 05

  Right.

• 20:04Speaker 07

  Do you have the power to tariff one single company? And why would you want to hurt an American company in that way?

• 20:09Speaker 05

  It would be more, it would be also Samsung and anybody that makes that product, otherwise it wouldn't be fair. So anybody that makes that product, and that'll start, I guess, at the end of June, it'll come out, I think we have that appropriately done by the end of June. So if they make that product. Now, again, when they build their plant here, there's no tariff. So they're going to be building plants here, but I had an understanding with him that he wouldn't be doing this. He said he's going to India to build plants. I said, "That's okay to go to India, but you're not going to sell into here without tariffs." And that's the way it is, yeah.

• 20:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, your thoughts?

• 20:47Tom Ellsworth?

  So, basically, it goes back to the, this is the China chess game. Number one, he loves the fact that India is flanking China with trade deals. He loves that, and he loves that Tim Cook and Apple have been moving for several years in this direction. That's a good thing. The thing that President Trump is also pointing out is like, "Look, I want you to onshore or nearshore your manufacturing." And even if you have automated manufacturing, and there's a few people that work there, those are jobs working there, and it's also a whole bunch of jobs to build those buildings and those factories. And that's what Trump wants.

• 21:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Trump wants jobs in the US. He wants US economy to get the benefit first. So he doesn't mind the flanking, but he doesn't want Apple to stop there. There's your headline. "I want you to move out of China. I just don't want you to merely go next door to India and not bring any benefits to American shore." That's what the discussion is about, and I support the president. I think he's absolutely right.

• 21:57Patrick Bet-David?

  What percentage does he have to move to the States for him to be happy with it? Because he didn't say 100%, right? He says a portion. What is a portion? Do you think they've had that specific conversation to say, "I need 20% to be made here"?

• 22:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I don't know if it's a percent, or it's like, "Look, take me through your products that, you know, that you could make here without crushing the cost for the consumer." What could you do? Could you do AirPods here? What could you be making here onshore so that there'd be a benefit to the American consumer in terms of jobs, benefit to the American economy, and you're not going to crush the price? I think that's the conversation. Trump does deals. So I think that's the discussion with Tim. "Tim, come on. You know, what can you put onshore? What can you do that won't crush your economics and also make it hard for the consumer?" Because he even said, when the reporter followed up, "Well, what about Samsung? No, no, no, it'll apply to all of them, otherwise that wouldn't be fair." You heard him say that?

• 22:53Tom Ellsworth?

  So he's saying openly there, "Hey, Tim, I'm not going to disadvantage you. I'm going to press the button for everybody." I think it's a discussion of what can be brought on. But if I had to throw a dart at the wall, you know, I think he's going to look at it and say, "Okay, what percent of..." What percent of your devices are sold to Americans? And I think he's gonna wanna put them on a path toward that number.

• 23:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, your thoughts?

• 23:17Adam Sosnick?

  So, uh, get ready for your iPhone to cost more money, my American friends. You ever gone to the mall, you ever seen, um, the, at the Apple Store, just people lining up for hours, if not days, for the latest iPhone product? Have you seen this ever?

• 23:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Of course.

• 23:35Adam Sosnick?

  So I see it all the time. I'm like, I'm still, I think, operating on an iPhone 14. I don't even know what version we're on these days. But, two things are gonna happen. First, let's, let's get this out of China into India. I totally understand why Trump wants it made in the USA. But understand that as an American, when you see "made in the USA", you know what's gonna happen next? Get ready, get ready to pay a premium. Because if iPhones cost a thousand bucks and you're talking 25% tariffs, your iPhone is now gonna cost 1,250 bucks. And the American consumer is gonna pay the price for being made in America. Now, if you love America, get ready to pay a little bit more. And that's fine.

• 24:19Adam Sosnick?

  But most Americans are paycheck to paycheck. Most Americans feel they deserve the latest, the greatest, the best. But you're gonna have to pay a little bit more for that, buddy.

• 24:28Speaker 03

  Well, guess what? Adam, and I'm happy that you have the 14, cuz guess what? If we want to make America great again, and we do wanna bring jobs back here, Tommy, guess what? If you have the 14, you don't need the 17 or the 18. This is a freaking battin' down the hatches type of moment. And I get, and I love that attitude. I'm saying, I love that point of view. It's like, we want the next, like, I don't, I hate this phone now. And it's almost as if, remember when, uh, Apple got in trouble, Pat? They were sending that, that, uh, thing that made the phone and the battery die quicker? They got in trouble for that shit, cuz they want you to buy the new phone. You know what I mean? You don't need the brand new phone every single year. Who the hell do you think you are? If you can't afford it, calm your ass down, let America adjust, and then we move on from there. That's my attitude.

• 25:07Patrick Bet-David?

  They're talking about 60 million new phones. If they bring and build a fully manufactured phone in America, it's roughly 3,500 bucks. It's thirty five hundred dollars.

• 25:17Speaker 03

  If you want to buy the brand new one.

• 25:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Fully manufactured iPhone built in America. It's thirty five hundred bucks. So to me, if that comes here, companies are making more profits. You're creating more jobs. Salaries are going up. No problem.

• 25:33Speaker 03

  You can afford it.

• 25:33Patrick Bet-David?

  But if it's not.

• 25:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 25:35Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a big price. So what happens then? Then Apple sits on a lot of phones that are not moving. Apple knows if they go to India, then Apple's gonna do whatever they can to get a new president to come in. Because a new president hopefully is gonna be in a different way with phones being made. Who knows what's gonna happen? So there, there, there is the pressures and free enterprise. When you see things like this happen. A story came out about the fact that shipping. I don't know what page that shipping story is on, Rob, but there's a story about shipping. That prices for shipping, huh? Say that again? Page seven. Page seven. Yeah, there's a story about, and has nothing to do with the phones. I'll come back to it. Shipping costs set to double as companies rush to import goods before China-US trade ends. So for me, I would love for those things to be built here, but you just have to know.

• 26:19Patrick Bet-David?

  The prices are gonna go up. So major shipping carriers like Hapag-Lloyd plan to raise their rates for a forty foot container from China to West Coast, uh, to sixty five hundred dollars, Benny, from thirty five hundred dollars. These containers used to only cost you thirty five hundred dollars. Now it's sixty five. And East Coast ports to seventy five hundred dollars instead of forty five hundred dollars. For West Coast, it's an eighty percent, ninety percent increase. For East Coast, it's roughly seventy percent increase. That's a massive increase.

• 26:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 26:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Of what they're doing. That's not a joke. As of June first, as companies rush to import goods before May twelfth, China's US trade truce expires with Jay Forman of Basic Fund stating, "The increase will squeeze profit margins and it will result in higher prices for consumers." Another hack, eighty five hundred dollar container is expected to be by June fifteen, according to Journal of Commerce. So gradually they're raising the rates, going a little bit higher, a little bit higher. And this leads me to, Rob, if you can go to my, uh, um, the story with the money market. There's a tweet I put up there from Shamad, right? If you can show this, watch this. So, uh, bar chart, Tom, if you take a look at this, a staggering seven point two. Four trillion dollars is now sitting in money markets. Can you just click on the, uh, click on the, this is an all time high.

• 27:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny, you know what this is? You know what a money market is? So money market is kinda like, uh, imagine you have a checking account. You make no interest on it. Then say you gotta save an account. Let's say you make half a percent on it. Then let's say you got a CD today. I don't know what a CD pays today, Rob, if you can pull it up. What does a CD pay today at a bank?

• 27:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, one year, two year, five year, Rob.

• 27:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Whatever the number is it tells you. Say it's, any of between one to three percent. I'm just making up numbers right now.

• 27:57Speaker 03

  Four point five zero?

• 27:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Current best, the best CDs are paying four point five zero, four percent. Okay, great. Uh, a six month is paying three point eight five. They got a four percent. So, uh, a money market today, what is the rate of return in the best money market account? You can literally put your money in a market, money market today. No matter what the stock market does, no matter what the stock market does. Your money market as of today at any bank you choose, many of them, Discover Bank, three and a half percent. All the way up to four point four percent. Okay? Bank rate even tells you it's between four to four point five percent. So let's just say a person's got a million dollars. Let's say, uh, uh, ten million dollars.

• 28:38Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 28:39Patrick Bet-David?

  You put ten million dollars on the money market, what are you making per year?

• 28:42Speaker 03

  Four percent?

• 28:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Four percent, four and a half percent. What's four and a half percent on ten million?

• 28:45Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, no, Vinny.

• 28:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Four hundred and fifty thousand dollars per year.

• 28:48Speaker 03

  I was gonna say it.

• 28:48Patrick Bet-David?

  If a person's making four, four hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year. You know what the money market was four years ago? Nothing. Go, what was money market rates, money market rates?

• 28:58Speaker 03

  Below?

• 28:58Patrick Bet-David?

  In twenty nineteen.

• 28:59Speaker 03

  Below percent?

• 29:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me just find out what it was in twenty nineteen.

• 29:02Adam Sosnick?

  It was counting, it was point two five, nothing, barely anything.

• 29:05Patrick Bet-David?

  In nineteen it was four.

• 29:05Speaker 03

  Point zero one?

• 29:06Patrick Bet-David?

  The, the point is, it's gone up. It's rarely this high. So when you're seeing that much, okay? Rob, go back to the, the, the, the money market accounts where it's at. Look at this here. We have seven point two trillion dollars, seven point two, is it trillion? I think it is trillion. Seven point two trillion dollars right now, Vinny. That's sitting in money market. That's cash.

• 29:27Speaker 03

  That's a lot of money.

• 29:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you know what that sign is of? Because the, the president wants that money to be where? If I believe in the future of S and P five hundred. Where would that money be? In the stock market? If it's in the stock market, that means I'm optimistic.

• 29:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes.

• 29:42Patrick Bet-David?

  If it's in the money market, I'm saying, dude, I don't know what's gonna happen.

• 29:44Tom Ellsworth?

  I wanna make sure my money's chilling.

• 29:45Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm just gonna be chilling. So even with all the instability that's going on, if that my prediction in the next six to eighteen months, that's gonna drop to five point five trillion to six point two trillion. Because I think people are gonna go to the market. Do you see how that looks like from two thousand and eight?

• 29:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Jump.

• 29:59Patrick Bet-David?

  How all of a sudden it dropped? No, look at the drop. What is the drop? The drop is, no, the other, two thousand and eight, two thousand and eight. Go a little bit higher, that's five. Right there, you see eight? Boom, all of a sudden it drops. Which means people are going into the market, right? I'm gonna put some money in the market. And I'm gonna go and then boom, it spikes up again, I'm nervous. So we haven't seen a drop off since two thousand and eighteen, two thousand and nineteen in the market. We haven't seen it. So th- there's a concern here, what that could look like. Tom, your thoughts on this chart?

• 30:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, this is a great chart, Pat. There's two spikes. You see the spike we have right now, which is like the tariff spike. And then you have the spike, then there's a little flatness there, where it's like a little jiggly. And then you see that spike that's there, Vinnie, twenty twenty, twenty twenty one. See that big spike right there? You know what that was? Covid. Oh my god, what's happening? I'm scared and I put out of the market and I put my money in a money market. And then we come out of covid, it levels for a bit. Now here come the tariffs. Oh my god, I'm scared. What do I do? I pull out and I put my money in a money market. But take a look at what's happening. The S and P is back to fifty eight fifty. We had a big bounce yesterday. Because Trump said, well, you know what? You know what? Maybe I'll wait another thirty days, sixty days, ninety days before full impact of tariffs.

• 31:10Tom Ellsworth?

  The market love that. So here we are, fifty nine hundred again. By the way, sixty one fifty is basically the all time high under, since November fourth when the.

• 31:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, what do you think about seven point two trillion in money markets?

• 31:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Here's what I think. The minute those things feel confident and they go out, start demanding stock, the indexes are gonna go up. But what it says is that people are uncertain and a little bit scared at the moment. That's what it shows. It shows uncertainty and fear. And the best thing when you're uncertain and fear is you flee to things. Like gold and cash when interest rates are good with interest rates being the key there.

• 31:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me go to the next story here. Uh, Tim Cook called Texas governor to stop online child safety legislation. Whoa, why would Tim Cook call to stop online child safety legislation? This is a Wall Street Journal story. Apple CEO Tim Cook personally called Texas Governor Abbott to request changes or a veto of a child safety bill requiring app stores to verify users' ages. With an Apple spokesman stating if enacted, Apple marketplaces will be required to collect and keep sensitive personal identity information. For every Texan who wants to download an app, even if it's an app that simply provides weather updates or sports scores, the bill passed with veto proof.

• 32:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Majorities would make Texas the largest state to adopt such an app store accountability law, potentially increasing costs for Apple and Google. The Texas legislation mandates that app stores verify device owners' ages, linking minors' accounts to parents for an app approval would support her. Senator Angela Paxton said her parent, help parents understand what their children are really interacting with and give them tools to help them make a good parenting decision. Tom, your thoughts on this?

• 33:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, Tim Cook's had a busy week. Um, he's, he's working hard and he's got things going on. But there's some things in here that America needs to think about. Think about this, if you want to operate a liquor store in the state of Texas, actually in the state of anywhere. Right? Uh, Vinnie, you want to operate a liquor store. You have to check IDs, everybody in there, right? And you have to get yourself a liquor license.

• 33:23Speaker 03

  Do I have to have an accent like I want to sell?

• 33:25Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, no, don't, don't do that.

• 33:27Speaker 03

  I'll stay, just go. I want to get into character.

• 33:29Tom Ellsworth?

  But you want to do it, you want to, uh, you, you get yourself a license in some state and you start, you operate a liquor store. And you have to check IDs for everyone that doesn't look 30 and you have those stickers that are up by the register. If you don't look 30, we're going to card you. Don't get pissed off. Okay. And guess what? When you swipe their credit card, you're keeping sensitive information. You have their name, you've got date of birth, you've got all kinds of things and you've got a credit card record. So now all they're saying. is hey, Apple, if you want to operate in the state of Texas and when kids are downloading apps like games where they can actually they want to buy, you know, additional levels and things in the games or the games or things like Grand Theft Auto, they're saying, hey,

• 34:12Tom Ellsworth?

  guess what? You got to link the kids account to your account because parents are also asking, wait a minute, I want to know what's on Instagram and Facebook. I know that certain things at Grand Theft Auto are going to get rated higher and I have to allow, I have to allow my kid unless they get around me to get that app. And Tim Cook's being told, but says, listen, want to operate a gun store, want to operate, you know, liquor store, you want to operate a supermarket that sells beer? You got to check ID. You have to do like this. Guess what? We're asking you to check and we're asking you to link because there's another thing hiding an iceberg below the surface that Apple doesn't want to talk about and Meta doesn't want to talk about. And the fact is, all these statistics on kids and the distraction and what's happening in school when they're on social media during

• 34:56Tom Ellsworth?

  class, what's happening to the minds and young girls, we don't need to do it now, but there's a ton of data out on young girls that were suffering depression, hurting themselves or doing things online they shouldn't be directly attributed to social media and social media platforms that were actively out there trying to exploit them. And so now Texas has said, we've had enough. Apple, you are the store. And if you want to sell these things in your store to Texans, you got to check. This is what we want you to do. And they said, well, it's going to cost us a lot of money. It says, okay, well, let me, let me check. Checking my notes. Yeah, you're the largest, most valuable company in the world. I think you got some walking around money that you can, you can handle putting these things in place and do development. You're a software developer.

• 35:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, your thoughts.

• 35:42Tom Ellsworth?

  things to make it easier.

• 35:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, your thoughts?

• 35:45Adam Sosnick?

  Well, I, I want to kick this back to you, PPD, because this seems like something that, that parents need to be fully aware of, whether they're in Texas or not, you know, I, um, this past weekend, I was at one of my best friend's sons' bar mitzvah, 13 years old. I took my nephew, Rory, who's 12. So all my friends, their kids are 10, 11, 12, 13 in this age bracket. And they all freaking have phones. And I remember being at

• 36:16Adam Sosnick?

  quinceañeras and birthdays and bar mitzvahs, you know, 100 years ago when I was that age. And you were so fully in the moment and so fully present. And now everyone's on a phone. So what I want to understand is, as a parent, how do you navigate stuff like that these days? Because for me, it's very weird seeing kids 13 years old, 12 years old, just face down in their phone, not living their life. I know you've been very clear about how you handle this. But what's your advice on the general parenting with phones out there?

• 36:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, I mean, look, what Apple is trying to do. We had Leila Mickelwold on and Pornhub owner, Rob, if you remember when we had the Pornhub owner on. And I'm asking him, saying, so why aren't you just checking IDs for people that go on Pornhub? No, we can't do that. Why? Is it because 90% of traffic would drop because nobody wants their IDs to be checked? Like, imagine you're going on a porn website. Okay, post your picture of your ID. Hell, no. Yeah, I know who you are and what you watch. No, no, you don't want to, the person's gonna be like, I don't want to be documented. I said, well, you would lose 90 to 95% of your traffic. No, we wouldn't. I guarantee you, you would. So Leila Mickelwold pursues this and goes as far as doing this. And I think she was one of the ones that, you know, caused this Senate Bill 2420 to be taking place

• 37:31Patrick Bet-David?

  at Governor's Signature, aiming to require app stores to providers like Apple and Google to verify users. This is, let me tell you, this is massive for a lot of people in the porn industry. That if this legislation goes through in Texas, guess who does it next? All the other red states, they're gonna say, we want the same exact thing. When it comes on to phones, Dylan's over here. So as a kid, your kids are gonna ask you for the phone for a few different reasons. Let's go through them. One of them is what? Is video games. Okay? What's the other thing? Is listening to music. What's the other thing? Texting their friends. So remember, you have three things. Well, they can't buy if they don't have your credit card. Well, Amazon. Yeah, but if you don't give them a logged in account that they can't log in and just go buy stuff.

• 38:16Patrick Bet-David?

  So you got what? You got texting, you got music, you got video games. Yes. Or YouTube if they're watching videos and they're watching movies and stuff like that. Netflix, right? So as a parent. If you want him to, like, we're on a flight here, and on the flight, you know, the kids watch movies in the, you know, on the

• 38:32Speaker 03

  On the seat.

• 38:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Seat, you can see that. So that at least gives you that. Hey, I want to listen to some music. You hand a phone to him. He's listening to music. But he's listening to music and he's texting. Or she's texting. So, okay, now I'm texting. Do you want that level of accessibility at that youngish to be texting somebody non-stop?

• 38:47Speaker 03

  No.

• 38:47Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't. So now, phones and iPads, you have to be, if parents have to be very much, because kids can tell you, I just want to listen to some music, but they're really texting somebody and not playing video games. I'm definitely not for, yesterday we went to dinner, and we had a few people that are not accustomed to being with dinner with us, and the phone was sitting on the table. And it's driving me nuts the entire time. You know why? Because I'm like, my kids are not going to come and say, well, if they can have a phone on the table, why do you not? And I'm like, no, everybody. So, you know how we go to summertime, we go vacation together, or Christmas, or whatever we do, what happens? All phones are off the table.

• 39:18Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 39:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, I, Vinnie, we literally grab our phones, I know this sounds weird, and we fully put it on a different table, and we don't even look at the phone.

• 39:27Speaker 03

  Great idea.

• 39:27Patrick Bet-David?

  For two hours, and what does it make us do? We're talking.

• 39:30Speaker 03

  Talking, looking at each other.

• 39:32Patrick Bet-David?

  We're talking, we're talking, we're talking, conversation. I think we need to go more and more in that direction, but this is to the average parent, to the average person that's reading the story, they're like, I don't even know why they're covering the story. To the average person, trust me, it may not be a big deal to you. But to somebody that's in business that knows what's about to happen with Apple, there is a reason why Tim Cook picked up the call and called the governor, not saying one of his C-suite executives to call. This could be massive for Apple and very expensive across the board. They do not want this. Let me get to the next story here. Next story here. All right. So the only reason I'm bringing this up is because how a small little story elevated into this crazy story that we got here today.

• 40:11Patrick Bet-David?

  So, you know, Caitlyn Clark is playing a game, and there's this issue with her and Angel Reese. There's this, Caitlyn Clark pushes one of the teammates of Caitlyn Clark, I'm sorry, Angel Reese pushes one of the teammates of Caitlyn Clark. Caitlyn Clark fouls Angel Reese. Angel Reese does one of these LeBron flops and falls on the ground, I mean, she learned it from LeBron, falls to the ground, and the next thing you know, DeMarcus like, oh my God, she's Because she's white and all this other stuff and then Angel Reese comes out and she's saying all these things and then Jamil Hill comes out, Rob, I don't know if you have this clip or not. Jamil Hill comes out and says Angel Reese at the end of her career uh uh is gonna end up being uh uh calls Angel Reese

• 40:53Patrick Bet-David?

  end of career will be known as Michael Jordan, alright, so for some of you guys that are watching this.

• 40:59Adam Sosnick?

  Unbelievable.

• 41:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Have you seen this thing? So Jamil Hill, Rob, if you can find this thing. She says Angel Reese will end up being Michael Jordan in the end of her career, alright, we'll find this, yes, I just typed it up, asked the question. Yes, Jamil Hill has publicly expressed her her belief in Angel uh uh Angel Reese has the potential to become the Michael Jordan of WNBA in a recent statement he'll place ahead of a Katelyn Clark suggesting that Reese could be viewed as the league's defining superstar like a Michael Jordan, is that the one, Rob? If you can uh

• 41:31Speaker 03

  I'm looking for the clip.

• 41:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, okay, anyway, so so then, outside of that, uh RG3 and comes out and says man, you know, Katelyn Clark is a superstar and she's, you know, bigger than life and all this stuff. Ryan Clark, out of nowhere. Ryan Clark, who's a commentator, out of nowhere comes out and he says well, what does RG3 know anything about this? RG3, who was a former quarterback, a great rookie quarterback.

• 41:58Speaker 03

  Washington.

• 41:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Washington, yeah.

• 41:59Speaker 03

  Went to Marshall.

• 42:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Went to Marshall. He says, what would RG3 know, who's a black man, by the way, says, what would RG3 know about this? He's married to a white woman.

• 42:08Speaker 03

  So stupid.

• 42:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Wait, what did you say? Ryan Clark says RG3 is married to a white woman, what would he know about all this stuff that's taking place?

• 42:16Speaker 03

  He actually said those words.

• 42:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you kidding me?

• 42:18Speaker 03

  I swear to you, I haven't heard that.

• 42:20Patrick Bet-David?

  So, okay, Rob.

• 42:21Speaker 03

  What a, what a crappy thing to say.

• 42:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you find this clip? Where Ryan Clark says, how would he know he's married to a white girl? Can you, is that the clip, Rob?

• 42:31Speaker 03

  Yes, sir.

• 42:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, play this clip, watch this, Vinny.

• 42:34Speaker 05

  We moved in to being able to read the expressions of a person and know their intent, know their character, know their perspective. But he does understand hate because I think he also understands the hate of self. When you look at the play, which is all we could speak to as professionals, all we could speak to as analysts, Angel Reese pushed one of her teammates, Katelyn Clark had a hard foul, which is part of basketball. I feel like it was assessed correctly. And Angel Reese's reaction is the sort of reaction you get in a situation when you feel like you took an intentionally hard foul. That's competitiveness. That's rivalry. That's not hate. And so now, though, when RG3 jumps on to the hate train or to the angry train and now follows

• 43:19Speaker 05

  along with what we saw from Keith Oberman, what we saw from Dave Portnoy, as they poured on to Angel Reese to make her the villain in Katelyn Clark's heroic or hero story. The one thing we know about RG3 is he's not having conversations at his home about what black women have to endure in this country, about what young black women and athletes like Angel Reese have had to deal with being on the opposite side of Katelyn Clark's rise and ascension into stardom. Now, when you look at it, I think Asia Wilson is the face of the league.

• 43:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Who is? Who's the face of the league?

• 43:57Speaker 03

  He said Angel Reese.

• 43:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Who did he say is the face of the league?

• 44:00Adam Sosnick?

  Asia Wilson.

• 44:02Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause that. RG3 responds back. RG3 responds back and says, what is that all about? To Ryan Clark's credit, he apologizes about this. Then Brittany Griner is playing a game, and this is what Brittany Griner calls, I was not going to comment on any of this stuff until this took place. Watch what she says. The entire internet has reacted to this. Here's Brittany Griner. They're playing against the Indiana Fever, and look what she's saying. Go ahead, Rob.

• 44:33Speaker 03

  That pretty much sounds like trash effing white girl. I mean, let's just be honest.

• 44:38Patrick Bet-David?

  So the whole market reacts to this with Brittany Griner, right? And then the other quote, Rob, then I'm gonna wrap this up and then I'm gonna go to Adam. Put the quote of Brittany Griner, what she said about the NBA. This is so funny how all this stuff works out, right? She says, this is from Brittany, every time we play her, there's this commotion. Like this loud rumbling from the stands. Turns out it's people, thousands of them, just sitting there, watching on purpose. It's very disruptive. It's called a freaking game that they pay you money to play. Don't play the game. It's very disruptive. It continues. Brittany Griner voiced frustration in a recent interview claiming that Katelyn Clark is ruining what used to make the WNBA great. Wait for this.

• 45:21Speaker 03

  Empty stands?

• 45:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, let me just...

• 45:22Speaker 03

  You're so mad.

• 45:23Patrick Bet-David?

  WNBA games used to be a chill, quiet place. You could bring your laptop and relax, maybe even get a little work done. But now, it's like there's a large gathering of people watching us from the stands. Some of them are yelling crazy shit about what they're seeing, putting unfair pressure on us to score like we're there for their entertainment, and that's pretty gross. Are you...

• 45:48Speaker 03

  I act like this is not what you're joking.

• 45:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, can you verify that this is what she said on the mom and pop WNBA model? That she's sick of the... And then she says, "The whole thing is toxic. I saw a guy with his daughter in the crowd, both of them yelling, couldn't hear what they were saying exactly, but it was either about my performance or some light racism. Definitely one of the two." Give me a flipping break.

• 46:09Speaker 03

  Can I say something like that?

• 46:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, of course.

• 46:10Speaker 03

  This is incredible. Yeah, first of all, I mean, and Adam, I know, Adam, you have, definitely have something to say, but... And I know Adam, I'm gonna piggyback off of Adam, because Adam's been saying this for a while, that this is why the WNBA is never, ever, ever going to work and never make money. And this is exactly what Katelyn Clark gets for bending the knee. Do you guys remember when she said, when we lost all respect for her, when she said, "I want to say I've earned every single thing, but as a white person, there is privilege." And the more we can elevate black women... This is going to be a beautiful thing. That's when it was all over. And Angel Reese and Brittany Griner, they walk around like the league owes them something. Even Ryan Clark's attitude as if, bro, where's the victimhood? These are freaking millionaires. Like, what are you talking about?

• 46:55Speaker 03

  It's attitude, it's no humility, just entitlement. And that's not confidence, it's arrogance with receipts. Okay, if you want fans, if you want your league to grow, act like a professional. Okay? The league already started underwater and instead of fixing it, they're just poking more holes in the boat. And think about it, Brittany Griner talking all that trash. We traded the merchant of death for your ass. And you're out there talking shit and being, saying racist shit on the freaking sideline. And it's disgusting. Okay, that's why nobody watches it and it'll lose money.

• 47:27Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, the point is, Vinny, if Katelyn Clark goes and is playing, they're watching it. Guess what was just announced yesterday?

• 47:33Speaker 03

  What?

• 47:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Katelyn Clark's injured, she'll be out for two weeks. Let's see what happens to viewership.

• 47:38Speaker 03

  Good, good.

• 47:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's see what happens to viewership.

• 47:40Speaker 03

  But do you think, and I know Adam's gonna go, but do you think Katelyn Clark on her own is going to save this thing? I, I, there's no way, especially with what she said and how they're all going to eat her alive. Because she's a white girl in a league with predominantly black women and the fact that, by the way, how can you say, I'm sitting there and people are yelling, thousands of people, it's distracting. You're playing basketball in an arena. It doesn't make sense, Tom. They're doomed. They're doomed and good for them. Adam, how much money did they lose a year?

• 48:13Tom Ellsworth?

  All of it.

• 48:14Speaker 03

  How much?

• 48:16Speaker 03

  How much?

• 48:17Adam Sosnick?

  I mean, it's not even just a year, they've

• 48:19Speaker 03

  Every year.

• 48:20Adam Sosnick?

  They've lost tens of millions of dollars every year.

• 48:23Speaker 03

  They're like the Federal Reserve. Adam, what are your thoughts on this?

• 48:26Adam Sosnick?

  So, I'm not gonna do what you think I'm gonna do and just trash the WNBA and tell you how horrible of a league it is and what a zombie company it is. And how it is just completely toxic feminism with a little bit of racism and completely losing money. I'm not just gonna do that, PBD.

• 48:47Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm glad you didn't even mention it.

• 48:48Speaker 03

  Thanks, Adam.

• 48:49Adam Sosnick?

  Exactly. I'm also gonna tell you that, uh... The only reason that we're talking about the WNBA is two reasons. Number one, you know that summer's here and the NBA, the NHL football season is pretty much either ending or coming to an or beginning because all we have left is Tom's favorite sport, Major League Baseball or WNBA. And this is the reason they played in the summer because there's nothing else going on. So you know that the WNBA is coming with that. Number two, we started this conversation with Angel Reese is going to be the second coming of who?

• 49:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Michael Jordan.

• 49:31Adam Sosnick?

  Michael Jordan? Stop it. Okay? Kobe's not Michael Jordan, LeBron's not Michael Jordan, Harold Minor back in the day was never Michael Jordan. Now?

• 49:41Patrick Bet-David?

  The left-handed Michael Jordan.

• 49:43Adam Sosnick?

  Exactly. So now some six foot four, maybe lesbian or not, is the new Michael Jordan? Stop it.

• 49:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 49:50Adam Sosnick?

  The whole reason we're talking about the WNBA is because of Katelyn Clark. Angel Reese at best is the next Karl-Anthony Towns. Shout out to the Knicks. But I will say one last thing. Sports, no matter what.

• 50:04Patrick Bet-David?

  There's no wishes Karl-Anthony.

• 50:06Adam Sosnick?

  Is still the last place that DEI does not exist.

• 50:09Patrick Bet-David?

  There's no wishes Karl-Anthony Towns. You know why there's no wishes Karl-Anthony Towns? Karl-Anthony Towns shoots 40% from three and he scored 20 points in the fourth quarter the other day. This is an insult to Karl-Anthony Towns. Rob, can you pull up the stat that was just pulled up? Watch this here. Rob, I just ask you to Google something. Go all the way to the top. What did you Google, Rob? Can I tell the audience? You typed in Angel Reese, 22.7% lowest field goal percentage in season. Yes, in a ESPN report shows that Angel Reese has a field goal percentage of 22.7% in a WNBA game, which is a significantly lower than our average usual, the lowest percentage reported. This woman in a season. Rob, do me a favor, Rob.

• 50:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Go to chat GPT and type in the following. What is the single worst shooting percentage ever in WNBA? What is the single worst shooting percentage ever in WN? No, you type in ever, ever, ever in WNBA.

• 51:08Patrick Bet-David?

  What is the worst shooting percentage ever in WNBA? If you can put that ever in WNBA, watch this folks, zoom in a little bit if you could. Watch this, look what's gonna come up. You ready? This is supposed to be Michael Jordan. The lowest.

• 51:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Angel Reese in contrast. What do you see? Angel Reese's performance. Watch this, this is the kicker. Amongst players with more substantial playing time. Angel Reese's performance in 2024 stands out. She shot 43.8% on attempts within five feet of the basket. Do you know what five feet is, Vinnie?

• 51:43Speaker 03

  That's right here.

• 51:44Tom Ellsworth?

  Hang on, if she's 6'4", then fingertip to fingertip is 6'6".

• 51:48Patrick Bet-David?

  So these guys are such clowns. You have a shot at getting more eyeballs to your league. And all of a sudden, you fear because it's Katelyn Clark, a white girl. You know who Katelyn Clark's gonna end up being in the weirdest way possible if she makes it? She's gonna be the Jackie Robinson of WNBA. Who was the Jackie Robinson of MLB? He brought blacks to the game.

• 52:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Of course.

• 52:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. Jackie Robinson of the WNBA would be Katelyn Clark. If she stays healthy, there's a group of them that would hope for her to be out.

• 52:22Adam Sosnick?

  Why do you say? Why do you say she's gonna be the Jackie Robinson of the WNBA? It's not like she's the first white girl.

• 52:28Patrick Bet-David?

  She's not the first white girl, but she's the first white superstar at the levels where she's scoring these. You know, the threes she's shooting, she's like a Steph Curry. She's the first actual superstar that people care. When's the last time we watched like college basketball? If I told you, tell me the greatest college basketball female basketball players last 30 years? And you watch, I know her, she's our meet, but you look at some of these names. You see some of these people on how they do. But Katelyn Clark came out the gates and put up some numbers we've never seen before.

• 52:58Adam Sosnick?

  Can I give some pushback to that?

• 53:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Of course.

• 53:00Adam Sosnick?

  Because if you Google, if you Google, who is the greatest WNBA player of all time? I guarantee you Diana Taurasi is gonna be at the top of the list. Find that out for me. What's my point? She made her mark in college, I think for UConn.

• 53:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Katelyn's been playing for a year and a half, Adam. Of course she's not the greatest of all time.

• 53:21Adam Sosnick?

  That's not what I'm asking.

• 53:22Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:23Adam Sosnick?

  What I'm saying is this, nobody gave a crap about Diana Taurasi because she became, she came out pre feminism, pre this push for making everything about femininity, feminism and femininity and pushing women down our throats. Without them pushing Katelyn Clark and them advertising and marketing and putting her on TV, nobody cares about the WNBA. Diana Taurasi did the exact same thing Katelyn Clark is doing. Shoots threes, makes assists, and you know, does her thing. But nobody cared. But now that they're pushing this down our throat, you gotta like the WNBA. You have to watch this, you have to watch this. Now people start caring. Diana Taurasi already did this.

• 54:08Adam Sosnick?

  She was the Jackie Robinson, so to speak. But now they're doing this with Katelyn Clark and was it for supposed to be like, oh my God, I can't wait for more WNBA. No one cares. But they're pushing feminism down our throats.

• 54:22Speaker 03

  And it's the same, by the way, and it's just anything with the words NBA in it. Same thing with LeBron James. He's the face, he's anti-cop, he's anti-American, he's pro-China. And how's the NBA doing? How's the NBA doing regular season? Is anybody watching the NBA? Be honest. This guy used to watch it all the time. I don't even remember the last time you even watched the game. When's the last time you actually saw an actual, full NBA game?

• 54:44Patrick Bet-David?

  For me.

• 54:45Adam Sosnick?

  That Knicks-Indiana series is going good.

• 54:47Patrick Bet-David?

  In this case, in this case, when you look at Taurasi when she came in versus Katelyn Clark, a part of what Adam is saying is trying to say that the women empowerment is bigger than it's ever been before and that's why this is going on. I don't know if that's the case, maybe, maybe not. But the reality of it is, I've never seen anybody more exciting as a female basketball player than her. It's got nothing to do with skin because Diana Taurasi is also not black. She's, you know, I don't know what nationality she is.

• 55:13Speaker 03

  Italian?

• 55:14Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know, I don't know, I want to, I don't know if she is.

• 55:17Speaker 03

  I mean, we're in Italy, so.

• 55:18Adam Sosnick?

  She's a white girl.

• 55:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Diana Taurasi.

• 55:23Adam Sosnick?

  Some people thought she was Indian and all of a sudden she turned black. I don't know what happened with her.

• 55:28Patrick Bet-David?

  I thought she was, I thought maybe she was Armenian, but apparently she is, let me see, uh, is she Arabic? Or is she something? I thought she was Armenian. Who cares? Look, I mean, at this point again, we're moving on. But the reality of it is Angel Reese, according to Jamil Hill, is going to be the Michael Jordan of the WNBA. And they lost Caitlin Clark. Let's watch some data to see what the WNBA viewership does the next couple of weeks. All right, let's go to the next story. Let's go to the next story. Next story I want to go to is, um, Jordan Peterson, Rob, if you got this clip. I just want to get your reaction to it. Jordan Peterson, over the last 10 years, has gotten billions of views online. He's one of the most watched influencers. He'll put events together. Thousands of people will show up and pay to watch this man speak.

• 56:11Patrick Bet-David?

  He's had a lot of influence over young men, wrote 12 Rules for Life that sold millions on top of millions of copies. Has been very successful, made a lot of money, but they do this jubilee thing that he sits down with this other young man and, you know, look, kudos to anybody that goes here because you're being targeted by 20 people that have all been researching to put you in your place and have an opportunity for a video like this that we don't know who you are. And all the eyeballs coming, you get a bunch of attention, right? Here's him and Jordan Peterson speaking. Go ahead, Rob, and play the clip.

• 56:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Is that relevant?

• 56:42Speaker 01

  Because you go to a Catholic church, don't you? Or you've attended recently. You're interested in Catholicism, aren't you?

• 56:46Tom Ellsworth?

  Sure.

• 56:46Speaker 01

  All right. Are you familiar with their doctrines?

• 56:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Somewhat.

• 56:49Speaker 01

  Okay, you're, you're familiar. How do they regard, how do they regard Mary?

• 56:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Why are you asking me that?

• 56:53Speaker 01

  Because you're a Christian.

• 56:55Tom Ellsworth?

  You say that? I haven't claimed that.

• 56:58Speaker 01

  Oh, what is this? Is this Christians versus atheists?

• 57:01Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't know.

• 57:01Speaker 01

  You don't know where you are right now.

• 57:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Don't be a smart ass.

• 57:04Speaker 01

  Well, either you're a Christian or you're not.

• 57:06Tom Ellsworth?

  If you're a smart ass.

• 57:07Speaker 01

  Oh, either you're a Christian or you're not. Which one is it?

• 57:10Tom Ellsworth?

  I, I could be either of them, but I don't have to tell you.

• 57:13Speaker 01

  You, you don't have to tell me. I was under the impression, I was invited to talk to a Christian. Am I not talking to a Christian?

• 57:20Tom Ellsworth?

  No, you were.

• 57:21Speaker 07

  invited to I think everyone should look at the title of the YouTube channel. You're probably in the wrong YouTube video. You're really quite something, you are. Aren't I, but you're really quite nothing, right? You're not a Christian.

• 57:31Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, I'm done with him.

• 57:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow. What do you think about that?

• 57:38Speaker 03

  I mean, I mean, if I'm being real, I'm really disappointed. We got a guy who's helped millions to see value and order, discipline, family tradition, and then you pull back on the one foundation that you come from, okay? He's lectured on biblical stories like he's Moses, and then the guy just asks you, "Are you a Christian?" There's, I don't care Catholic, Protestant, are you a Christian? Because you've been claiming and you're preaching it that you are, why have that moment? What are you scared of? Why, why? So now you've confused the shit. Tommy, am I, am I, you know what I mean? You can't talk about the power of the Bible and logos and Christianity and Jesus Christ and claim all this,

• 58:19Speaker 03

  and then when the moment happens, and I think that kid, whoever this kid is, won this freaking debate to where you have to say, "I don't want to talk to you anymore," you lose it right there. Why don't you say that you're a Christian? What are you, what are you scared of?

• 58:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, what's funny is because originally when they uploaded this video on Jubilee, it was, the title was "One Christian vs. 20 Atheists." Then they changed the title to "Jordan Peterson vs. 20 Atheists." Did you get that?

• 58:43Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 58:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so you want me to say that one more time? So originally it was "One Christian," which is who?

• 58:48Speaker 03

  Jordan Peterson.

• 58:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Jordan Peterson vs. 20 Atheists. And then they changed it to "Jordan Peterson vs. 20 Atheists" because he said, "How do you know if I'm a Christian?" I mean, that, that, that change took place. But Adam, how did you see this between Jordan Peterson, this young kid?

• 59:03Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, only in the modern day of the internet and soundbites can a kid who's likely done nothing with his life, nothing with his life, probably in college so far, come in and own one of the greatest philosophers, speakers, doctors of our time, Jordan Peterson. Now, Jordan Peterson probably should have had a better answer. I don't know his religion. It's not for me to comment on he is who he is. But this kid has gone famous now for owning Jordan Peterson. I would have loved to seen the rest of the discussion. I would love to see if there was any... Productivity of having a conversation like this.

• 59:46Adam Sosnick?

  But for Jordan Peterson's, his entire career to be, you know, stomped on by this kid who just wants to basically dunk on Jordan Peterson and say, "You stand for nothing," or whatever he said, is just sort of testament to where we're living today. Where a kid can go famous and viral for basically dunking on a great thinker, when a great thinker doesn't necessarily want to argue with a meaningless child.

• 1:00:12Speaker 03

  But you're assuming it, Adam, because Jesus Christ didn't mince words. In Matthew, Tom, chapter 10, verse 33, he said, "But whoever denies me before men would also deny him before my Father, who is in heaven." It's not a riddle, it's a lie in the sand. You can't play neutral when it comes to Christ. And I don't care what moment he's having, or how philosophical, and yes, he's a great mind, but Jesus Christ didn't suffer and die so he could treat faith like a philosophy class. Because that's not how it is, Adam. Either you're all in, or you're one of these sideline poop talkers, and I'm just not a fan of it.

• 1:00:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, your thoughts?

• 1:00:46Adam Sosnick?

  I don't understand the premise. If he's not a Christian, then he doesn't have to...

• 1:00:50Speaker 03

  No, so, no, he is a Christian. But when you're on the spot and you're saying it, why not say? He said...

• 1:00:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, your thoughts?

• 1:00:58Tom Ellsworth?

  So I think Jordan Peterson missed a wonderful opportunity because, you know, what's interesting is, if you're going to do a debate with people on anything, right? Anything. You know, baseball people 10 years ago debating about designated hitters, should it be in both leagues? If you go into a debate on anything at all, and you hit the other person on the head, you're going to get nowhere. And in, when sharing about faith and when talking about faith, he missed an opportunity because this young man told him what he was thinking. He said, "Aren't you concerned with... Are you familiar with some of the doctrines of Catholicism?" And all you have to say is, "Yes, I'm a Christian, and I understand the teachings of Jesus Christ, and I know why I believe them.

• 1:01:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Can you share with me what your foundation is and why you believe that?" That's a non-offensive question, asking the other person to level set. And then you can walk into... Apologetics and talk about the very beautiful message that is present. And there are many examples given in the Bible of how to debate this. Paul, the Apostle Paul, went to Rome. And when he was in Rome, he walked around and he found an altar. And it was, the Romans at that age were very superstitious. They had Roman gods for everything. And they had gods for why there was thunder and why there was rain and all kinds of other things. And he comes up to them, and because they're superstitious, maybe they missed one. They had the thing that said, "To the tomb," no, "an altar to the unknown God."

• 1:02:28Tom Ellsworth?

  So they're saying, "And just in case we missed one, we don't want you to be upset. Here's your altar and here's where we are." And he said, "Might I tell you about one you don't know?" And the people were curious and they engaged in debate. And they said, "Many understood and believed." So when you have an opportunity like this, I think Jordan Peterson missed the boat. Is, what is the problem in saying, "Yes, I'm a Christian and here's why I believe what I believe? I'm interested in you. Why do you believe what you believe? Let's talk through a couple of these things." Instead, you set it all up, and the curiosity I had was it set up as a kind of an internet debate roundtable to get sparks and to bring on views? I don't know what the premise of it was. I'm not the producer and I haven't really studied it.

• 1:03:12Tom Ellsworth?

  But this could have been done so much better for the benefit of the young man that was sitting there so that he could have understood.

• 1:03:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I have a different opinion. I mean, what did he do most of his career? He did what? He was a professor, he was a teacher. And what kind of people did he deal with? Exactly like that kid. Think about what he taught. He dealt with kids like that. And he's probably sitting there profiling this kid and is like, "Dude, what are you talking about? You know how many tens of thousands of conversations I've had with someone like you? However, if you've got a position, take the position." Rob, is this another one clip that happened from the same episode?

• 1:03:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, from the same joke.

• 1:03:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, let's watch this one here.

• 1:03:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you go back a little bit, we didn't hear the first part? Yeah. Do you believe in the all-knowing, all-powerful, all-good notion of God? What do you mean by believe?

• 1:04:03Speaker 03

  You think it to be true?

• 1:04:04Adam Sosnick?

  That's the circular definition. What do you mean?

• 1:04:07Speaker 03

  How is that circular? How is that circular?

• 1:04:10Adam Sosnick?

  Because you added no content to the answer by substituting the word "true" and "believe".

• 1:04:17Speaker 03

  I said, "You think it to be true."

• 1:04:19Adam Sosnick?

  Alright, so if you believe something, you stake your life on it.

• 1:04:23Speaker 03

  What do you mean by that?

• 1:04:25Adam Sosnick?

  You live for it, and you die for it.

• 1:04:28Speaker 03

  Okay, so you're saying that you don't believe something if you wouldn't die for it?

• 1:04:32Adam Sosnick?

  No, really, no.

• 1:04:33Speaker 03

  Okay, so then-

• 1:04:34Adam Sosnick?

  How would you define belief? Something you say?

• 1:04:37Speaker 03

  Okay, so I explain, like, I could believe it is the case that this pen exists, but if someone like threatened my life, right, I would lie in order to be able to save my life, right? Like, I think you would do that too. You wouldn't lie to save your life?

• 1:04:47Adam Sosnick?

  Don't be so sure.

• 1:04:49Speaker 03

  You wouldn't lie to save your life?

• 1:04:50Adam Sosnick?

  How much do you know about me? I didn't lie to save my career. I didn't lie to save my clinical practice.

• 1:04:57Speaker 03

  Would you lie to like save your children, your mom, your dad?

• 1:05:00Adam Sosnick?

  I don't think lying would save the-

• 1:05:02Speaker 03

  Now, can there ever be a circumstance logically that lying could save someone?

• 1:05:06Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, and if you're steeped in sin, you're likely to live in circumstances like that.

• 1:05:10Speaker 03

  I'll give you an example. If you're like, in like Nazi Germany, and it is the case that there's like Jewish people in your attic and you're trying to protect them, would you lie to like the Nazis?

• 1:05:18Adam Sosnick?

  I would have done everything I bloody well could so I wouldn't be in that situation to begin with. It's a hypothetical and it's not answerable. No, I can't answer a hypothetical like that because it's far- Don't play games.

• 1:05:31Speaker 03

  I'm not playing games, I'm just asking if you hated it.

• 1:05:33Adam Sosnick?

  I just told you, I would do everything that I could to make sure that I'm never in that situation. By the time you've got there, you've made so many mistakes that there's nothing you can do that isn't a sin.

• 1:05:46Speaker 03

  Being born in Nazi Germany and trying to protect people that you care about, like there could be a Jewish friend that you have, and you want to protect them.

• 1:05:52Adam Sosnick?

  I think you should just give up on that line of questioning.

• 1:05:55Speaker 03

  But like, okay, again, you're not answering this hypothetical because you know it shows that you clearly would lie to save someone's life.

• 1:06:00Adam Sosnick?

  I'm answering it in a manner you don't find acceptable.

• 1:06:04Speaker 03

  I wouldn't be in that scenario. Obviously, right, logically, because that's already happened, like that's in the past. You don't have a time travel device. I don't get the, so wait a minute. The kid is making a point, Pat, by saying, let's say you were a German person in Germany during Nazi Germany, and you're harboring a Jewish family to save them. That's a very hypothetical, but Jordan Peterson's argument is, I would never put myself in that situation. No, he's missing the point completely. He's saying, what if you were that German family? If you're, it doesn't make, he's not making any sense in that argument.

• 1:06:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, did you understand the argument he was making?

• 1:06:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, what the kid was trying to do was, um, basically called the sin entrapment. And he's trying to get him to admit that he would lie. And he said, oh, so lying is a sin, so you have to lie to do this or that. Whereas you're talking about being faced with great evil. And if you read in the Old Testament, there is an example of a woman who lied to Pharaoh's hitmen and sent them off in the wrong direction so that other people could proceed on God's mission over here. And so would I have lied about people being in the attic? Yeah, you have Schindler and you have Anne Frank and you have all the stories of everything, what happened over there. And the kid was, I feel like trying to put this in a corner.

• 1:07:23Tom Ellsworth?

  But then Jordan Peterson was almost kind of losing his composure and losing his patience. And I kind of agree with what you said a few minutes ago, Pat. It's like, I have, you are example number six. And I have seen so many of you kids who are example number six, and I'm not even gonna listen to it. No, you know what? You know what? There's a great verse in the Bible. And it says how Jesus put his hand on a man and it said, Jesus sighed because he was tired. But you know what he did that day? He still did what he was intended to do and he healed the guy. But it said he sighed and you could just see him going. Be healed. It means he was tired and there's a lot going on in life. And what I think's going on there,

• 1:08:04Tom Ellsworth?

  it appeared that Jordan Peterson was out of, out of patience. You kind of lost his composure a little bit. And at a, at a time where you really need to call on the peace of God so that you can present these things to people who are doubters and see if you can win, you know, a, not win a point. It's not about winning or losing, but maybe bring them to a level of understanding or bring something forward to them.

• 1:08:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Because they came in armed to kind of point you in one or two directions. And guess what? That's fine.

• 1:08:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, your thoughts?

• 1:08:39Adam Sosnick?

  So, you know, Jordan Peterson, this moral question of whether you should lie to save a life, whether you're Nazi Germany or whether you're in modern day America, preserving life and saving a life overrides all other perceived sins by far. So to me, it's not even a question. Yes, you lie, cheat and steal to save your kid's life, to save your wife's life, to save your own life. It's a non-starter for me. Yes, you lie in that case. Just like Oskar Schindler lied thousands of times to save thousands of lives. It's, it's a non-question to me.

• 1:09:21Tom Ellsworth?

  But what, Adam, but what, I'm sorry.

• 1:09:22Adam Sosnick?

  As far as what Jordan Peterson is doing, I don't know if this is a good look for him or a bad look. I think it's an obvious bad look for someone who's basically made a name for himself over decades to basically be dismantled by a group of young pompous frickin atheists. Cool. But then on the bright side, there's going to be an entire new audience of teenagers and 20-somethings who go, who is this guy? Jordan Peterson? And they're going to find out about his books and they're going to find about his speeches. They're going to find out of what he believes. So he's almost needs to, in my humble opinion, reinvent himself for the modern Gen Z culture. Cause everyone who is in their 30s and above

• 1:10:06Adam Sosnick?

  has heard of Jordan Peterson in my perception. So, uh, Jordan is a, is a, he's very smart, but also emotional man. I've seen him cry on camera too many times to mention. PBD, I know you've had an experience with this. So, I don't know what he's dealing with right now, but he's one of the greats. He's one of the goats, especially in, uh, the modern internet podcast culture. And I wish him the best.

• 1:10:30Speaker 03

  But, but the question was, Adam, twice, and yes, these are atheists. And number one, you know what you're getting into. You don't go to a wedgie contest and then you get a wedgie and you're like, what the hell's going on? He's going to a debate with atheists. And if you're gonna claim you're a Christian, he'll say things like, I act as if God exists. I'm afraid he might exist. That's not a confession of faith. That's a hedge bet. And I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be preacher guy. You know what I mean? I'm not talking the talk, I'm walking the walk and I'm trying to live that life and I'm trying to be a better person. If you're gonna be that guy, say it, admit it, okay? I'm a, I'm a Christian and that's it, Tom. There's no if, ands, or what's about it. I'm not as knowledgeable as you, I'm not as smart and, you know, you know, philosophical as Jordan Peterson.

• 1:11:13Speaker 03

  But Adam, this isn't a, a sideline thing, bro. When it comes to Christ, you're either all in when you, if you believe in him and you are a Christian, either you're all in or you're not. There's none of this, oh, well, these people, I'm gonna hang out with them, I'm gonna be over here. No, I don't, it's not it, Pat. What do you think?

• 1:11:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, no, to me, he looks, uh, upset. He looks agitated. He looks, uh, annoyed. And by the way, happens to many of us when you're sitting in a place like that and, you know, you're not gonna be a robot. You know, even when the, Trump was asking the question, saying, hey, so, uh, what are you gonna be doing if Putin doesn't listen? You think I'm gonna tell you? You think I'm gonna tell you fake news? You, you know, nobody here's a machine and a robot. However, in a situation like that, when you're sitting with someone and your mind trying to debate an atheist? Like, I don't know how long it's gonna take for this guy to realize it. Because typically, faith is a experience of life, something's happening to you and going through a journey. I mean, you saw a story recently that talks about Joe Rogan's been going to church.

• 1:12:10Speaker 03

  Oh, beautiful.

• 1:12:11Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you mean, Joe Rogan's been going to church? Yeah, Joe Rogan's been going to church. Uh, you know, you, you, I think the, this happened after, you know, Wes Huff, you know, you were telling me yesterday with ex atheist. Joe Rogan makes major life changes after revelations on Podcast Sparks, resurgence of Christianity.

• 1:12:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Um, how did that happen? Did that happen accidentally? Did that happen to a 22-year-old man? You think Joe's had a lot of deep conversations with a lot of powerful people around the world and met a lot of weird people? You think the best podcasts Joe Rogan's ever done are the podcasts that you've seen on Spotify or Apple or YouTube? No, the best podcasts Joe Rogan's ever done were never recorded, were never televised, were never put on a outfit. You, you don't think he's had enough people that are on the atheist side try to convince him otherwise? Why is he not looking at it at this age? He's had the most money he's ever had. It's not like he is, you know, going through something. He's famous, he's got money, he's family, everything's good. And you're going through that. So, this process

• 1:13:09Patrick Bet-David?

  of a person thinking they know it all when they're 23 years old, coming out of college, getting a tattoo that says whatever on it with the little, you know, I don't know if you saw that little fatty that had a tattoo there. You know, you, you see, you see these types of things that happen. And then you're like, you know what? One day I'm gonna grow out of it. I, I'll never forget, I'm on my army unit, I'm, I'm there at the tattoo shop about to get a tattoo of a cobra on my chest.

• 1:13:31Speaker 03

  Yes!

• 1:13:32Patrick Bet-David?

  And I'm like, "Man, I wanna get this cobra." "Why do you wanna get a cobra?" Because my unit at 228, uh, Fort Jackson was called the Cobras. And so I was gonna cost you $200. I'm like, "Dude, I only got 80. I can't do it." You realize if I had an additional $120, I would've had a cobra tattooed on my chest.

• 1:13:48Speaker 03

  That would've been sick, Pat.

• 1:13:49Patrick Bet-David?

  That would've not been sick. I would've been sitting here explaining to myself why.

• 1:13:52Speaker 03

  I would've slithered that, Charlie.

• 1:13:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but you know, you know what the moral of the story is? When you're young, you do some dumb shit and you think you know it all.

• 1:14:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:14:00Patrick Bet-David?

  And sometimes it takes life to really beat the living crap out of you to grow up and say, "Maybe I gotta start looking at some of this stuff." Maybe you have to realize that, you know, how did this kid happen? This is a full-on miracle. Go watch a couple deliveries and see what takes place and what God does. Go, go through life and experience some of the things. You realize, "Maybe I don't know it all, man." Maybe, maybe, yeah, maybe this, you know, whole thing about, you know, the only thing I know is that I know nothing. Like, the more you're growing up, I think Socrates said that on his deathbed if I'm not mistaken. We're all learning, we're all getting better, just like these 20 people, as well as Jordan Peterson. He's also going through it as well. And you know, who knows what he's going through? But this definitely, when you do something like this.

• 1:14:40Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know if losing your cool, by the way, you know, you know how simple this could be? We had a rule in our office. Say you're giving a speech today to 50 people that are coming to us to do business with us. Say Adam's giving a speech, you know what the rule was?

• 1:14:52Adam Sosnick?

  What?

• 1:14:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Whoever's the speaker that's speaking to guests and clients today, no one go tell him bad news before he hits the stage. We had a basic rule, like let's just say something very bad happened. It's like, don't go, why'd you give him bad news?

• 1:15:07Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, it ruins the flow.

• 1:15:08Patrick Bet-David?

  And then he gets on stage and he's pissed off. Something bad could have happened literally 30 minutes before he went in there. They pissed him off and mom called him, wife called him, somebody called him and he got pissed off. Going in there like, you know what, what the fuck, what's up? And then he puts it on those people, no one knows. Anyways, you're a professional, you should be above it, above it. Let's move to the next story. I think, Adam, you were gonna ask something?

• 1:15:25Adam Sosnick?

  I just wanna get, I know this, I'll go real quick, but one of the greatest things PBD has ever done to me is say, Adam, get closer to God and whether, whatever religion you are, you know, I love what you say about, you know, getting married is hard, not getting married, um, i- i- is, is riskier, is harder, not having kids is risky. Having, not having kids is, is riskier, not following God is risky, not believing in God is riskier. My, my question is this, cause I've moved in this direction, I've seen Vinnie move in this direction and I know Tom has changed lives, for, for followers of Christ, my question is this, you remember when I went to the, uh, Jerusalem and I went to the Armenian church?

• 1:16:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 1:16:08Adam Sosnick?

  And I sent you those videos and I got you the, the gifts from Jerusalem, from the Armenian church? It had me thinking, I said, man, like, all right, what's the difference between the Armenian church and the, the Vatican and the Roman Catholic Church and Eastern Orthodox? And, and you know, I went to high school in Miami and it was a Presbyterian high school. And then I have friends who are Mormon and Protestant, evangelical, Lutheran, Methodist, Anglican. Neither of these are the names I'm thinking of, Jehovah's Witness. In Egypt, there's Coptic Christians, Anglican Baptists.

• 1:16:46Adam Sosnick?

  Isn't it all just you have to be a follower of Christ if you're, if you're a Christian? Why are there so many different sects to Christianity?

• 1:16:54Patrick Bet-David?

  You're asking me the question?

• 1:16:56Adam Sosnick?

  I'm asking just the general question is, maybe Jordan Peterson isn't a quote unquote Christian, he's just a believer in God. So my, that's my question to the, to the group. What's the difference with all these religions and does, do it, does it have to be partitioned into all these different segments? Aren't you just supposed to be a follower of Christ? Isn't that the whole conversation?

• 1:17:17Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I, I think now you're going to, you know, we believe the baptism is under what, we believe it's with the drop of the water, no, we believe it's this and we believe, it, it's these, you know, changes that they make on small things that they add. Some of them have more rituals than others and there's a very much of a high retention rate to a organization that causes their members to have rituals versus those who don't, because if it's rituals, you're thinking about it more than another faith is thinking about it, so the other faith that's not thinking about it, the other sect that's not thinking about it as much, they're not as disciplined. And if you notice Muslims, you know, no matter what's going on, they're praying, some of them are praying, God knows how many times a day, that forces you to be more disciplined, to be thinking about your God, to be thinking about your faith.

• 1:18:02Patrick Bet-David?

  So that's a whole different topic. That's a two, three hour podcast that I, I, I don't think. Yeah, I, I don't think it's something we need to get into, but I think.

• 1:18:10Adam Sosnick?

  And I get that, but maybe that's what Jordan Peterson was thinking is don't define me by a specific.

• 1:18:15Patrick Bet-David?

  I get that, but if you're sitting with that audience, if you're sitting with that audience, you have to sit there and like, let's just say if I sat down and there's 20 of the guys and we're talking business. Well, you know, capitalism, all they care about is this. Have you ever started a, I have. How many employees do you have? Tell us that. Who has ever quote on you, stolen from you? Nobody ever. You haven't ever built a business yet. You're small. So you're kind of going through that, a, a moment of conversation versus who, do you have a job? Yes. Who pays you? Boom. What company is it? Boom. Who was the founder? You think they lost, let me just go look them up right now. You think that person went through a divorce? You think that person went through some challenges? I think it's gotta be that giving the perspective versus automatically jumping. into conclusion, losing patience to now not allow them to be sitting there saying, wow, you know, what a

• 1:19:00Patrick Bet-David?

  uh, uh, uh, I like the way he handled me that he got me to think about it. You know, it's like that one video. What is that one video we show where this man keeps going to this man that's talking about Jesus loves you. Shut the fuck up. Have you guys ever seen this clip?

• 1:19:12Speaker 03

  With the black guy?

• 1:19:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think, did we show this on a podcast a couple of weeks ago?

• 1:19:17Speaker 03

  I don't.

• 1:19:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, did we show this on a podcast? Oh, my God, you have to see this thing. Oh, I don't, I almost don't want to even show it because he's disrespecting him the entire time. Does he use some choice words, Rob, uh, Vinnie?

• 1:19:28Speaker 03

  I

• 1:19:28Patrick Bet-David?

  I think he used some choice words.

• 1:19:29Speaker 03

  He does a couple, but they might have bleeped it all. I'm helping look. So, yeah, it's, it's

• 1:19:32Patrick Bet-David?

  And then all of a sudden, you see, he asks him, "Hey, man, can I just pray for you?"

• 1:19:37Speaker 03

  Pray for you.

• 1:19:38Patrick Bet-David?

  "Can I just pray for you? You mind if I pray for you? Let me pray for you."

• 1:19:41Speaker 03

  And it's silent.

• 1:19:41Patrick Bet-David?

  And then eventually, the white man is probably in his mid 50s, the, the mid 40s. I don't know how old he is.

• 1:19:49Speaker 03

  He looks a little bit younger.

• 1:19:50Patrick Bet-David?

  You showed me this clip. If you can't find it, let me, maybe Humberto's texting us saying that he found it. Let me see if that's the one that he's texting. No. If you find it, we'll show it. You text it to me somewhere, but it was great. Anyways, the moral of the story is, at the end of it, the guy says, "Can I just pray for you?" And he says, "You know what? I appreciate that." No one's, "I appreciate the fact that you just dropped a prayer for me. It was a great exercise." Anyways, okay, if you find it, we'll show it. If not, I'm gonna move on to the next story. Next story here uh, is George Floyd. So, very, very interesting. Another Target boycott called this Sunday to honor George Floyd and a prayerful protest. Reverend Dr. Jamal Bryan announced a national Target boycott on May 25th to honor the fifth anniversary of George Floyd's murder,

• 1:20:35Patrick Bet-David?

  leading to a nine-minute, 29-second prayer gathering at Conyers, Georgia Target, stating his national act of unity through faith. Twenty other faith leaders will hold similar protests at Target stores across multiple states, following Target's rollback DI program. Rob, is this a clip? Before you clip it, let me give some stats here to everybody that's watching this. Target has faced declining sales with a 3.1% revenue drop in Q4 and a 2, 2.8% decline in Q1 of 2020. 25 driven by a 6% fall in comparable stores sales with a 4.8% decrease in store visits per placer.ai Brian's target fast.org claiming 200,000 supporters demanding target reinstated

• 1:21:19Patrick Bet-David?

  $2 billion in black owned product purchases and fully restored DEI as he told CNN we're not going to spend our dollars where we're not honored Rob go ahead and play this clip.

• 1:21:29Speaker 00

  Yeah, it reflects America moving backwards away from equality for all people. Five years ago, the CEO of Target said that George Floyd could be one of his employees and with no pressure made a pledge of $2 billion.

• 1:21:57Patrick Bet-David?

  That doesn't look like R. Kelly to you?

• 1:21:58Speaker 00

  To see mega companies now walk away from diversity, equity and inclusion is a stark contrast from where we were five years ago.

• 1:22:06Patrick Bet-David?

  To give your name the glory, the honor and the thanksgiving, God keep us on target.

• 1:22:12Speaker 01

  It was very important to me. The pastor declared he had a vision to what was supposed to take place. That vision didn't happen. We stand on business. We stand on God's promise. We stand on the word. We're not going back, we're going forward. We are like the number one consumer spender. I myself fall in that category.

• 1:22:30Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause that one there, Rob. Tom, your thoughts on this? I honestly, but listen, guy, I'm not trying to be offensive. I thought it was R. Kelly for a second. He got out. I thought he was in doing time. Apparently it's a pastor. God bless you. Go ahead, Tom.

• 1:22:42Adam Sosnick?

  He reminded you of R. Kelly.

• 1:22:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, he reminded me of R. Kelly. Go ahead.

• 1:22:46Tom Ellsworth?

  So I'll start with Target and I'll make that short and sweet. They managed this horribly from DEI to George Floyd and then they had all the conservative people mad because they had all these, remember those, the trans wear for small children, the bathing suits that were girls bathing suits for boys that featured a pouch for tucking, all that stuff that flipped out the conservative in the family audience because that stuff was there and they said, we're boycotting you and they went the Other way in DEI and then when they walked back DEI, all the people in favor of the I came back and said, now we're upset with you and we're boycotting you. So, bad management and bowing to public pressure and and things like that, puts you in a bad place. That's

• 1:23:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Target. Now, I'm going to talk about the the people gathering together there. I think it was beautiful that they gathered together peacefully. I think it was beautiful that they were using freedom of speech to make their point. I think it was beautiful that they had their pastor there. Now, you know, you can't criticize one group's boycott and holding prayer service and then condemn another group's boycott and holding a prayer service, right? Even though they may be a little different. And I think what this comes out is, we need a national act of unity on parenting. We need a national act of unity on communities living together without artificial things like DEI trying to force issues. And I know

• 1:24:14Tom Ellsworth?

  people are going to say, well, you're a white guy, you could say that. No, no, I can say that. I can say it would be better in America if we all came together in a spirit of unity and starting with churches and, you know, I think would be a great place to start that. And I think Target, you know, really blew it, you know, bowing to one side or the other. And these people are getting together and they're standing for their side peacefully, freedom of speech. I didn't see anything crazy there. And so, they're boycotting and other people are boycotting. Our national unity needs to be to go upstream and get to the root causes. What was going on with George Floyd? What was going on with Fentanyl? What was going on with with men without fathers? And these are the things that we need to

• 1:24:57Tom Ellsworth?

  come together and find unity because in our diversity of thought, we will find unity of purpose in wanting to make things better and raise better citizens along the way.

• 1:25:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, your thoughts?

• 1:25:09Adam Sosnick?

  So, the conversation that we need to have, especially for my friends in the black community, is the conversation around the hero-making machine, which you've touched on timeless times, PBD.

• 1:25:22Adam Sosnick?

  George Floyd was not a hero. He was not a legend. He was not a champion of any particular cause, especially any cause that affects the black community. What he was is a poster child for perceived victimhood or perceived police brutality. My hope and prayer for my friends in the black community is stop perpetuating the same two or three career paths as the heroes. The black community will succeed, in my opinion, when they do this. Stop putting athletes, ballers, and rappers as the people to look up to in life. When you start putting people like businessmen,

• 1:26:07Adam Sosnick?

  thinkers, doctors, physicists, lawyers,

• 1:26:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Teachers.

• 1:26:13Adam Sosnick?

  Anyone who's actually got a degree and done something with their life or started a business and has improved the community, that is the time that you'll see your community succeed. I want nothing in life more than as American to see people who have been wronged in the past to basically rise up and be the greatest they could possibly be. That includes having more black fathers in the home. I have a lot of black friends, a lot of black people that are amazing friends of mine. I want nothing more than to see them succeed. And I will start with the father in the home and the hero-making machine being elevated to a better extent.

• 1:26:53Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, this is a mayor. Rob, is this the funeral? Is this the five-year?

• 1:26:57Tom Ellsworth?

  This is the funeral of George Floyd.

• 1:27:00Patrick Bet-David?

  This is not the five-year.

• 1:27:01Tom Ellsworth?

  No, this is at the funeral where he breaks down and cries.

• 1:27:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Where he breaks down and cries. I mean, it's a spectacle. It's what it is. It's not necessarily anything that the mayor is crying with his mask on. Yeah, so Vinny, what are your thoughts on the story here with Target?

• 1:27:13Speaker 03

  I don't, to be honest with you, I don't have a crazy opinion of it. It's just the whole situation. And I've said this how many times? You would never have heard George. None of us in this room or the entire world, no BLM, no nothing, none of it happens if George Floyd wasn't a piece of crap as a human being for all the stuff that he did robbing people's houses with a bunch of guys with a pregnant woman holding a gun to her doing all the stuff high on drugs trying to pass a fake 20 at that place he never would have met Derek Chauvin if he wasn't a piece of you know what that's at the end of the day be a good person and again Adam you nailed it too it starts at the home it starts with freaking being raised the right way even though

• 1:27:56Speaker 03

  society it promotes that single mother you go you could do it all by yourself and all that nonsense and trying to destroy the nuclear family it's all on purpose it's trying to make everybody reliable on the freaking government and when you want to talk about murders Tom what's the number one murderer of black people and you've talked about this before and you brought her name up who started the whole thing oh you want to go you're gonna go really quick please Planned Parenthood Planned Parenthood yep how many children how many black children does that thing freaking murder every single year it's never been greater than 16 the African American community is not crossed far to my memory 16% of the population but it consistently rides at 40 to 42% of the

• 1:28:38Speaker 03

  annual abortions let that sink into everybody so when people want me to cry and bend the knee and and and and burn the entire country down because of one scumbag was high on drugs I'm not buying it Pat sorry

• 1:28:52Patrick Bet-David?

  this message is brought to you guys by Trojan condoms look without even taking any money from them I want to say go use their product because you know even last minute when you get excited you still got to find one sometime we got to run down the store to 7-Eleven we can find something there's 7-11s everywhere they're everywhere you gotta go protect yourself because we got to lower that 42% to 16% 13% uh okay let's go to a real story guys I mean you know we all fight you know we all have issues with our spouses and things happen but I swear to God if your wife smacked you upside the head the way Macron's husband and Macron's wife hit him this is inappropriate and if he's watching this this is very inappropriate you don't behave like this when

• 1:29:35Patrick Bet-David?

  the world is watching watch this here watch this here what happened the best part about this is how many people have made spoofs of this with blonde hair with wigs being thrown all this other stuff Rob go and watch this clip watch this clip here go for it

• 1:29:51Speaker 03

  Oh. Hey.

• 1:29:55Speaker 03

  Oh, is this slow motion? Is this slow motion?

• 1:29:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Wait, you opened the door too early.

• 1:30:01Speaker 03

  Oh, two hands. Hi, everybody. Hey, what you doing?

• 1:30:06Speaker 03

  Look, he's rubbing his face. And then look at this.

• 1:30:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Does he walk? Does she walk? Yeah.

• 1:30:10Speaker 03

  He, yeah. Look at those shoulders, bro. Look at that guy. Look at this guy. Look at this guy, bro.

• 1:30:19Tom Ellsworth?

  If I was Macron, I would have kicked him in the nuts.

• 1:30:24Patrick Bet-David?

  What was that, though? What do you, what do you think happened there, Vinny?

• 1:30:27Speaker 03

  I just, I mean, I mean.

• 1:30:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think it's just a fight between a couple? You think that's all that was? Like, what happened there?

• 1:30:32Speaker 03

  I mean.

• 1:30:33Patrick Bet-David?

  What did they say, Rob? What has been said, the, the, the feedback on what happened there?

• 1:30:37Speaker 03

  Well, what they said, well, Macron brushed it off and he said that they were, he was joking around with his wife. And he said people were overreacting, calling it geo-planetary catastrophe. And, and by the way, his team claimed initially that the video was fake. Did you guys know that? Just like CNN with deep fakes with Joe Biden falling over the place, but then he admitted it was real but harmless. And Brigitte didn't take his arm afterwards, like you guys saw, walking all stiff. But I mean, guys, let's just, let's remember, are you gonna believe anything that these people say? Be, be honest with yourself, because if allegedly all the reports, especially with everything that we've heard, which has ruined them, they met when he was 15 and she was 40 years old, okay?

• 1:31:18Speaker 03

  I think that she has been abusing him his entire freaking life since he was underage and a freaking child. And could you imagine being exposed, as much as they've been exposed? I mean, it's bad.

• 1:31:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:31:31Speaker 03

  What kind of conversations are happening there? You know what he, she is saying? How, I'm, I'm assuming, how dare you, you let people like Candace Owens get this to a point where she, he, she, he, you know what I'm talking about, can't even walk around, because you know, guys, put yourself in, in Shim's feet and shoes, high heels or sneakers when they're at the house. Everybody's looking at them in France and the talk of the town is that that is a man. That is the talk of the town. So could you imagine the conversations that Brigitte is saying? Saying Emmanuel, you're the president. You couldn't have paid more, you couldn't have offered more or done more to shut up these voices for what's happening.

• 1:32:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you have any opinions on this? I don't want to spend a lot of time on this. I just know.

• 1:32:16Tom Ellsworth?

  No, it just.

• 1:32:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Alright, let's go to the next story then.

• 1:32:19Tom Ellsworth?

  My last word is, it's a bad look. It's a bad, it was a bad look and it's poorly explained.

• 1:32:23Speaker 03

  Who's ever done that, Pat?

• 1:32:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, you seem like you have a lot of opinions on this.

• 1:32:28Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:32:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Strong opinions.

• 1:32:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Strong shoulders.

• 1:32:31Adam Sosnick?

  It's, it encapsulates what France is at this point. It's, it's a young French dude getting dominated by a alleged transgender ideology.

• 1:32:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Older French dude, dude.

• 1:32:49Adam Sosnick?

  Exactly. So, any real man would not play this game. A real, like, we all been in relationships, you get in arguments. To put your hands?

• 1:33:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Both hands.

• 1:33:03Adam Sosnick?

  On your husband's face to slap him around and he's like, hey, hello, hello, good to see you everybody. It just, it encapsulates exactly not only what's going on in that relationship, but in that country. If you're telling me that someone's together and there's a 25 year age difference?

• 1:33:19Tom Ellsworth?

  No.

• 1:33:20Adam Sosnick?

  I'll say, okay, how much older is he than her? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. He's the younger guy. What? It makes completely no sense to me.

• 1:33:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:33:32Adam Sosnick?

  But this is what the French people elected.

• 1:33:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Would you have respected him more if he slapped back? Would you have liked, like, let's just say the same thing happens. He hits, uh, uh, what's her name? Brigitte hits him and then you see him backhanding Brigitte. Would you have respected him more if he swung back?

• 1:33:50Speaker 03

  1,000% yeah.

• 1:33:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, personally, I wouldn't, I wouldn't want to have seen that, but I'm waiting for the, I'm waiting for the memes.

• 1:33:57Patrick Bet-David?

  What if it's kind of like?

• 1:33:57Tom Ellsworth?

  You always do the last line before we get off the.

• 1:33:59Speaker 03

  Plane. Yeah.

• 1:34:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, I'm being serious with you guys.

• 1:34:02Speaker 03

  I'm being dead serious.

• 1:34:02Patrick Bet-David?

  So let's just change it for a second.

• 1:34:04Speaker 03

  Go ahead.

• 1:34:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Look, many years ago, Dana White, Dana White had an incident.

• 1:34:07Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:34:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Dana White had an incident at a bar on December 31st, whatever it was, New Year's Eve. I don't know if you remember that.

• 1:34:11Speaker 03

  Of course, in the nightclub?

• 1:34:13Patrick Bet-David?

  He even reacted to it.

• 1:34:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:34:14Patrick Bet-David?

  But then it was bam bam.

• 1:34:16Speaker 03

  Quick.

• 1:34:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Right? It was bam bam. It's like 1-1.

• 1:34:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:34:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Would you, would you have respected Macron more if he swung back?

• 1:34:23Speaker 03

  Yes, because I believe that that's a dude. So guess what? If two fellows want to get it on.

• 1:34:28Patrick Bet-David?

  We don't need to play that, Rob. I'm just saying like.

• 1:34:28Speaker 03

  I'm saying, I'm saying, yes, especially if, which I believe in my heart of hearts, that that's a dude. I'll punch him back, dog. Like, yo, homie.

• 1:34:35Patrick Bet-David?

  No, but that's not, that's not it.

• 1:34:36Speaker 03

  I let you eat the last cookie before we get off the plane.

• 1:34:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's just say, let's just say if it, if it is a lady, let's say if it is. It's, it's a strong-shouldered lady, but let's just say if it is a lady, if it is a lady, would you have said, okay, he at least like protected himself or no, he shouldn't put hands on her?

• 1:34:52Speaker 03

  To block, block it? I would have definitely blocked it. I mean punching her, it's not even a fair fight because even if it's a dude.

• 1:34:57Tom Ellsworth?

  No, you're blocking constrained. You don't, you don't cock-a woman. You're blocking constrained.

• 1:35:02Patrick Bet-David?

  All right.

• 1:35:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Men are bigger, stronger.

• 1:35:03Patrick Bet-David?

  But if you knew.

• 1:35:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Typically.

• 1:35:06Patrick Bet-David?

  But if you, but if you knew that Brigitte is a man in that happen.

• 1:35:09Speaker 03

  Pat, I'm doing like an elbow.

• 1:35:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Off the top rope, top of the.

• 1:35:13Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, no. I'm, I'm, I'm.

• 1:35:15Speaker 03

  Shoulder drop.

• 1:35:15Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm doing dental work. I'm telling you.

• 1:35:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:35:18Patrick Bet-David?

  We got, we got a little out of control here. It was just an innocent question, guys. Trying to see what's gonna happen here.

• 1:35:22Adam Sosnick?

  Answer is no.

• 1:35:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. All right.

• 1:35:24Adam Sosnick?

  Unless you're Joan Conery.

• 1:35:26Patrick Bet-David?

  All right. Sounds good. Well, listen, Adam, I'm glad you said what you said.

• 1:35:29Speaker 03

  Give a woman a little crap.

• 1:35:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me go to this Ron DeSantis story. Where's this Ron DeSantis story? It says page six, but I'm on six and I don't see it. Is it seven? Uh, uh, Rob, can you tell me where the Ron DeSantis story is? I do not see it on page six. Oh, okay. Let me go. Page five it is. Okay. So Ron DeSantis seemingly met with You Suck Chance at Florida's WWE event. Newsweek. At WWE, I don't know if this, okay, Saturday night, main event at Tampa's, uh, Youngling Center. Uh, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis faced apparent crowd hostility with a viral video promoting an ex-user to post Governor DeSantis just showed up and the crowd started booing him and chanting, "You suck." There's no way that's him. Go ahead and play this rap.

• 1:36:18Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:36:30Patrick Bet-David?

  No, that's not Rob. There's no way. What was happening prior to that? There's no way he walked in and they booed him, "You suck." Are you guys following Tom?

• 1:36:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, yeah. What was happening in the ring? I want a wide shot of the whole arena. What was going on there? I mean, was this a, like a... When things like this happen, I've heard that at wrestling or boxing events, Pat, where an undercard, or it's a split decision, and the "You suck", that's meant for the refs, you know what I'm talking about? I want to see the wide shot of the arena. What else was going on there? Is this really reacting to the walk-in by Ron DeSantis? Or is there something else going on?

• 1:37:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, what's this? This is a different angle?

• 1:37:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, this is a different angle. And you can see the ring. It doesn't look like there's any action happening inside the ring at the time. And when you watch, you can see the TV guys are going towards Ron DeSantis. They want to do that if there's a match going on inside the ring.

• 1:37:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me see it.

• 1:37:33Tom Ellsworth?

  I mean, but it is a wrestling... Oh, boy. I hadn't seen this angle before. I'd only seen the isolated... But listen, maybe it's the audience trying to like, like christen him into the whole, "Yeah, we're wrestling and where you suck." Like, I don't know.

• 1:37:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, go to chat GPT and ask the question. Were fans booing Ron DeSantis when he walked into the WWE arena? Let's see, because I'm sure this has been asked so many times by different people. I'm sure they have the data on it. Let's see what they say. Screaming "You suck", when he walked into the arena. No, you have to put "You suck", because can you just stop that search and just add the "You suck" to it? The keyword is "You suck." I don't want to keep saying that phrase, but I just like if you can yelling "You suck", yeah, there you go. "You suck", yeah, there you go. All right, let's see this here. See what our friends at chat GPT will say about this event taking place. Yes? Oh, shit.

• 1:38:31Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm trying to give him grace here during WWE's Saturday Mainline. The Youngling Center in Florida, come around, met with boos and chants of "You suck" from the crowd as their peer rings out with his children. The reception was notably hostile with attendees making their disapproval clear. This incident asked to pattern of right-wing figures receiving negative reactions at WWE events. For instance, Hawk Hogan with similarly booed fans on Monday Night Raw in January despite WWE. Got it. Well, I don't know about that, but uh... I think this is the biggest awkward thing, Adam, here for me, and I'll come to you as the following. Is, you know how in life, there's levels? There's levels to any game you play. There's levels to being a good with girls.

• 1:39:15Patrick Bet-David?

  There's levels to being good with playing poker. There's levels to being good at backgammon. There's levels to have a knowledge on cigars. There's levels to being a bodybuilder. There's levels to wealth. There's levels to fame, okay? It's such a bad look to walk into an arena thinking he's gonna get the reaction that Trump did. It's just, it's just a bad look, cuz you are not Trump, okay? These, you're just not, and the more you try to do that, you're... Like, if you ever read the book 40 Laws of Power, 33 Strategies of War, or if you read The Prince, like, I don't know if he's ever read these books. He needs to go read these books for the next three months. Take time off and just read like 20 of these books I would recommend you to go through.

• 1:40:00Patrick Bet-David?

  You don't try to come and shine while the greatest promoter of all time as a president is in the White House right now. You think you're gonna get the same reaction as him? It's a very, very bad look, in my opinion. I, I was trying to give grace, thinking there's no way in the world that happened. It was two other wrestlers in there, until Rob, who apparently is an anti-Desantis guy, I didn't even know that, jumps in. But Adam, your thoughts on this?

• 1:40:27Adam Sosnick?

  I think we got it all wrong here, guys. I mean, we all remember when they were all shouting, "F Joe Biden," and they interpreted it as, "Let's go, Brandon." So, in my humble opinion, at this wrestling match, which I think Logan Paul was wrestling, I want to say, they were saying, "You're up," not "You suck." They wanted the great Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida to wrestle Logan Paul. They said, "You're up, you're up, you're up." They wanted him to be a fighter, not a bootlicker. And they wanted him to get the ring and not be the heel.

• 1:41:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Tom, your thoughts on this, because Adam's being silly right now. I was actually asking you a sincere question.

• 1:41:13Tom Ellsworth?

  You know what, I'm gonna follow up on this. I'm gonna ignore the last 42 seconds that ever happened in world history, and I'm gonna go to your point. And your point is clear. How many times have we seen, Pat, like, businesses come to Bet David Consulting, or they come to the Vault, and they say, "Hey, my competitor did this, should I do this?" And we always ask them, "Why do you want to do that? Is that their positioning? Is that your positioning? Are you showing your difference? Are you showing their difference? Are you trying to have your next innovative campaign and do something in it?" Copycatting rarely works, whether it's commercials, whether it's, you know, political stunts, it rarely works. You've seen situations where they tried to copy.

• 1:41:57Tom Ellsworth?

  I remember when Al Gore, in 2000, this goes back 24 years ago, 25 years ago. I remember when Al and Tipper, who told this big lie, that the movie and the book "Love Story" Eric Segal wrote, was based on him and Tipper. That's pretty-

• 1:42:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Where do I begin?

• 1:42:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 1:42:18Patrick Bet-David?

  To tell a story of how-

• 1:42:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:42:20Patrick Bet-David?

  -greater love can be.

• 1:42:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Avoiding the draft, because my dad took care of me. So-

• 1:42:28Patrick Bet-David?

  That was actually really good. Good. Good job, Tom.

• 1:42:31Tom Ellsworth?

  So it's all, yeah, it was, maybe it was about Al Gore. Hell, maybe I'm the one that's wrong here.

• 1:42:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Freaking funny.

• 1:42:35Tom Ellsworth?

  So, basically, they, they, they were doing this kiss at the end of their rallies. And the kiss became bigger. And then he started like dipping her like, you know, the way, you know, the first kiss, you know, you have a first dance with your bride. And, you know, at the dance at your reception, you give her a little dip and a kiss and everybody applauds and she dances with her dad and all that kind of stuff. So, you, you don't run the other guy's playbook if you want to be different. You don't run the other guy's copycat playbook anytime in marketing. And I think that's what DeSantis just did. And it, that kind of stuff doesn't work. Whether they're yelling or not, it's the wrong playbook.

• 1:43:12Patrick Bet-David?

  That, that would have been, but I will tell you, Tom, I was in a complete different setting. And he did come out and he did get that kind of reception. They never, never walked out with him. But he was somewhere, comedy or something that was going on that he walked out. And he did get that kind of reception. You know when it was? At the peak of COVID. Because at the peak of COVID, people loved the work that he was doing. Something happened after the way he handled himself in the 2024 election, trying to be a president that completely took away all the great work he did during COVID. Being the best, the greatest governor in all of America, being the standard of how to handle COVID. In my opinion, he crushed it. And hopefully he will hire a different marketing team.

• 1:43:56Patrick Bet-David?

  If he hasn't already, who knows? Maybe they've been fired 17 times and there's new people coming in left and right. That we don't even know about. All right, let's continue to the next story here. Rob, the next story I want to go to is, it's got to do a little bit with Chris Cuomo, what he said recently. But maybe I'm going to take a different angle with this. So, I'm watching this, this show. You know, and, uh, uh, uh, obviously we, we heard about the tragic event that took place last week with Muslim killing a Christian and a Jew, I believe at the Israeli embassy. Originally, they thought it were both going to be uh, uh, uh, Jewish, but they were not. One of them was a Christian, one of them was Jewish. And then Chris Cuomo came out and had some thoughts to share about this. Rob, go ahead and play this clip. Go for it.

• 1:44:40Adam Sosnick?

  Democrats, my brothers and sisters, I understand why you're worried about Trump. I understand why you call him an ultimate evil, but I don't agree. And if you want the ultimate evil, look at the Islamists, the extreme ones in America, not just Muslims. And mind your dogs who are doing their bidding. What am I talking about? Look online to the reaction. Americans calling a terrorist a hero again, saying he, like the healthcare CEO murderer, was justified in violence. It's the same thing I've heard in Iraq and Afghanistan, but now echoing from Indiana.

• 1:45:22Adam Sosnick?

  This is not a one-off. It's just one more of what we choose to ignore. You remember that Islamist who drove a pickup truck with an ISIS flag attached through Bourbon Street? Killing 14 people, injuring dozens and dozens more? You know, he's a citizen from Texas, right? And we used to see that as an irony, right? Wow, from Texas. That's like the last place you'd expect a Muslim extremist from, right? Wrong. Texas is ground zero for what I'm talking about. Did you know there's a push to create an Islamic residential development there? A thousand homes, K through 12, faith-based school? Mosque, shops, insular community. What's wrong with that?

• 1:46:08Adam Sosnick?

  Everything. Here, we assimilate. Here, the struggle is to remove the distinctions, the melting of the melting pot. That's what we're trying to reduce.

• 1:46:22Adam Sosnick?

  The religious leader pushing for the project has openly admired the Muslim Brotherhood. Who are they? I'll tell you. Openly defended Hamas's killing of innocent civilians on October 7th. The developers initially advertised that the community would limit sales to only persons we believe will contribute to the overall makeup of our community. Meaning who?

• 1:46:46Adam Sosnick?

  Reports say 75% of the housing fees will go to finance a local

• 1:46:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Right there. So you see Chris going very hard on this right here. And it's interesting the position he's taken, but what happened there, okay? And then you and I are sitting there watching this one host. His name is Malik Maktabi. I think originally his family's from Esfahan, Iran. He's in Lebanon doing a show that, uh, uh, I don't know what the show is called. It could be his name. But it's a show where he does some controversial interviews.

• 1:47:17Speaker 03

  LBC?

• 1:47:17Patrick Bet-David?

  LBCI. LBC International. What is LBC? Lebanese Broadcasting Corporation International.

• 1:47:23Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:47:24Patrick Bet-David?

  And he's interviewing this young girl, okay? If you watch this interview, he's interviewing this young girl. And Vinnie, I don't know if you've seen this or not. He's interviewing this young girl. Rob, I don't know if you have the clip or not. It's a young girl he's interviewing who is maybe 13 years old. She could be 13 years old. And the question comes about about her fiance that she's married. And he's straight up going and asking these tough questions. Is this the one, Rob?

• 1:47:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, there's another one.

• 1:47:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Zooming a little one? Okay. Can I see if this is the one? Can you refresh this real quick to see if this is the one? Uh, uh, uh, let me see this one. Okay. Yeah, this is the one. Play this clip. Okay, watch this, folks. Little weird, little weird, but watch this. Audio. Go for it.

• 1:48:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Hello, Asher. We're going to the school? No. Who took you out of school? Khattib. My fiance. Ahmaud. Ahmaud.

• 1:48:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Who will be responsible? Khattib. My fiance. How old are you, Ahmaud? I'm 25 years old. What is the man, Raash? He's a child, he's not a child. I don't want to let her loose. How old are you? I'm 10 years old. She's 25 years old.

• 1:48:44Speaker 03

  He's 25 years old.

• 1:48:45Patrick Bet-David?

  He's 25 years old, she's 10 years old. And, and by the way, just so you guys know, the interviewer, Rob, just, just so everybody knows it, this is what makes it very interesting. The interviewer, if you go look up who he is, Rob, Malik, uh, uh, Maktabi. Can you ask, what, what religion is Malik Maktabi? Okay? No, Rob, you just fully butchered the last name. It's M-A-K-T-A-B-I. M-A-K-T-A-B-I. What religion is he? Just go to his, uh, Wikipedia. Go to his Wikipedia if you could. Zoom out a little bit. Okay, so zoom out a little bit, so zoom in a little bit so I can read it, Rob? Yeah. So, so Beirut is a television presenter known for his show Amir Bill, uh, Hat Al Rid, Red and Bullface. And if you go through reading about him,

• 1:49:30Patrick Bet-David?

  he is himself, I believe, a Muslim interviewing these things. So you're hearing what, you know, Chris is saying, "Hey, we can't, this cannot happen in America, this cannot happen over here, that cannot happen over, over here." Vinnie, what is your thoughts when you're hearing Chris, you know, "We're watching this clip, a 10-year-old fiancee, 25 years old, in Lebanon." You know, these are very strange stories when you hear about it. What's your position with this?

• 1:49:55Speaker 03

  Uh, first of all, I am beyond uncomfortable about that. I sent Rob another one, Pat, an updated, like a newer one, version of a girl and her age, I think that's, that's, that's Adam. Adam, you're rustling your papers. Um, I just sent one, Adam, about a 13-year-old girl, her name is Weem, 13-year-old, and they, with a 29-year-old, and they asked, she said, "The girl, she can't say no, it's against her culture." Rob, you sent, have the one that I just sent you? That's it, Rob. Pat, look at this poor girl.

• 1:50:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I saw this.

• 1:50:24Speaker 03

  Look at her.

• 1:50:29Speaker 03

  Oh, that drives me crazy.

• 1:50:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Same show.

• 1:50:33Speaker 03

  Same show.

• 1:50:37Speaker 03

  What annoys you the most?

• 1:50:40Speaker 03

  I didn't finish my studies. She's 13 years old.

• 1:50:46Tom Ellsworth?

  Pull him out of school for a reason.

• 1:50:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:50:49Speaker 03

  Look at her, look at her. Life ruined. Right?

• 1:50:57Speaker 03

  And we saw it by the law.

• 1:51:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, pause it. Okay, and here's my thing, and I'm... That actually makes it hard for me to talk, but... And I want people to understand this. This isn't... All Muslims are bad people, and I know a lot of people out there are gonna... I'm gonna get the messages, and I can give a shit. Okay, but Islam as an ideology is rooted in original texts and traditions that include extreme conditions, especially to women and children, okay? We're not talking about people, we're talking about the foundation, alright? Anytime I criticize another country's leader or government, automatically I get a blanket over the entire people, okay? But lick it, let's go to the truth, okay? And I don't care who you are out there, if that doesn't bother you, there's something wrong with you, okay? You were... however you're programmed, is wrong, okay?

• 1:51:46Speaker 03

  And I'm gonna go back to Muhammad. He married Ayesha when she was six, okay? Constantly the marriage when she was nine, okay? Muhammad was in his 50s, I do believe, Rob, you can fact-check me if I'm wrong. That's not fringe, that's mainstream Islamic teaching, okay? And it's still being justified just today, as you're seeing right there in that freaking video, with the girl whose life is destroyed for the rest of her life, alright? Now, fast forward to this, and we're seeing this, where they're ruined, she can't say no because it's against her culture, okay? And then, what you're talking about, about these cities and all this stuff, Pat, slowly but surely, that culture is shaped in Sharia law, which is based in the Quran and the Hadiths, H-A-D-I-T-H-S, same text, okay? And let's walk through the Sharia law, because guys, at the end of the day,

• 1:52:28Speaker 03

  say what you want, look what's happening in Europe, okay? Look what's happening, Sharia law. Child marriage, in many Islamic countries, ready? Child marriage is legal, you guys are seeing it. Iran, Yemen, Afghanistan, parts of Nigeria, why? Because the Prophet did, that's the defense, okay? Under Sharia law, a woman's testimony in court is worth half of a man's, alright? Marital rape is not recognized as a crime.

• 1:52:53Speaker 03

  Aposy, leaving Islam, is punishable by death. Blasphemy against the Prophet Muhammad, you'll get killed. Remember who was the guy, Tom, that drew the thing about Muhammad? Charlie Hebdo? Yep. And what happened to that guy? And yeah, homosexuality punished by death. And it's like, these aren't isolated, uh, events anymore. It's systemic, it's rooted in doctrine, and it's protected by law and repeated generation after generation. So to answer your question, Pat, that right there drives me insane. You know, remember we talk about, and you challenge this a lot, and you always question, and you ask, "What sword are you willing to die on? What hill are you willing to die on?" That right there drives me insane. It disgusts me, and I'll be damned, me, to hell.

• 1:53:34Speaker 03

  If any religion or anybody's gonna try to come to this country and do that shit and try to change this country and shift it to what that is, because that can't happen.

• 1:53:43Patrick Bet-David?

  How do you fight it? Because when you watch this clip from 10 years ago, Rob, if you want to play this clip for the audience to see, this is a 10 years ago from UAE Foreign Minister HH Sheikh Abdullah bin Zayed warned Europe of what would have happened if they continued down their path of suicidal altruism by inviting dangerous fanatics into their nations. They should have listened. This is 10 years ago, folks. Watch this, go for it.

• 1:54:05Speaker 05

  And, uh, and let me say this in English, so you can understand what I'm saying. I have translation. No, I know you have translation, but I'm, I just want to make sure you get it right.

• 1:54:19Speaker 05

  There will come a day that we will see far more radical extremists and terrorists coming out of Europe because of lack of decision-making, trying to be politically correct, or assuming that they know the Middle East, and they know Islam, and they know the others far better than we do. And I'm, I'm sorry, but that's pure ignorance.

• 1:54:50Patrick Bet-David?

  You watch this, right? And you see Tommy Robinson yesterday. He comes out of jail. First of all, Tommy Robinson doesn't look like Tommy Robinson. It looks like he hasn't shaved for a while. Here's Tommy, he's out. Right after being out of prison, you see the prison is right behind him.

• 1:55:04Speaker 03

  Yup.

• 1:55:04Patrick Bet-David?

  And he was being asked a question, look what he says. And this is in UK. "It was once the financial capital of the world." Go ahead, Rob. Unfortunately, in a country that doesn't believe in free speech, being a citizen journalist, this place is an occupational hazard. It's ridiculous. 16 years ago, when I first started speaking out against Islamic rape gangs that were plaguing this country, from that point on, I faced

• 1:55:30Adam Sosnick?

  relentless attacks from the British state wielding lawfare as a weapon in order to silence me. I have never been convicted by a jury. Every one of my convictions have been handed down to me by judges. The lucky thing with this, everyone got to see the film. Fa- fa- I have to say thank you to Elon Musk because without X, if we didn't have X, everyone would just think I lied. No one would have got any other narrative. Fortunately, I think, what was it, a hundred and sixty seven million people saw the truth? So that gagging order, these attempts at censorship, to silence, to cancel people, it hasn't worked.

• 1:56:12Adam Sosnick?

  You've attempted to lock up the truth and that truth has been echoed around the entire globe. It couldn't have been any more successful. I knew exactly what I was doing when I released.

• 1:56:21Speaker 03

  And he's run across outside that train. Still, by the way, just got out, Pat, for talking the shit that he got it went in for and he's still talking it.

• 1:56:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, your thoughts?

• 1:56:31Adam Sosnick?

  Well, I only have one person to blame for what's going on in the world right now, and that is uh white Christian tolerance. I'll say that again. White Christian tolerance is going to be the death of not only uh the world, but the potential Christianity. What do I mean by that? Because if you think that this is just an Israel and radical extremist problem, you're thinking way too small. Um because they're saying it out loud. They're coming after every single major Christian city around the world.

• 1:57:15Adam Sosnick?

  Starting with London, Paris, Sydney, Toronto, New York, LA, the list goes on. And because of Christian tolerance, they allow it to happen. And then you start locking up people who start talking about it. Hey, maybe we don't want Islamic rape gangs in our country. What? You're going to jail. So Israel just happens to be on the front lines of this, but you know who knows this better? than anybody? Who are the people that have already banned the Muslim Brotherhood and the radical extremists and jihadists from their country? Well, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Egypt, Jordan, the list goes on. Because they know that that radical ideology is bad for society.

• 1:58:00Adam Sosnick?

  So the last but not least point is this. What is going on in America today is downstream from what is happening in Europe already. Be very fearful of white, young college kids in kafias. They used to say, you know, the classic phrase, if you're young and you're not a liberal, you have no heart. And if you're older and if you don't, if you're not a conservative, then you don't have any brain. These days, the new phrase is this, if you're young in America, you have no brain if you go to college, because you end up becoming a woke, progressive, socialist, anti-American, gay-for-Gaza jihadist. That is the new liberal in America. And it's up to us to fight it.

• 1:58:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, final thoughts on you?

• 1:58:46Tom Ellsworth?

  You know what? I agree with Adam, and I wouldn't racialize it. And I'm not saying racism, but he made a racial specific about, you know, white Christian. It is basically the lukewarm, if you want to live life as a lukewarm church, you're going to have lukewarm results. And in the Book of Revelation, there is a list of churches, read the first four chapters, that tells you about the churches that get it wrong, and the consequences of getting it wrong. And right now, you will find places in Africa and in places in Asia where missionaries and the word of God is spreading and spreading very rapidly. And then you'll find uncomfortable Western civilizations.

• 1:59:27Tom Ellsworth?

  So I won't say white, because it's more than just white, but I'm amplifying Adam's point and adding my own clarity to it, not denying his point at all, because I think the core of his point is right. The lukewarm church is going to get, you can get more, expect more of what you accept. And I think that's where it's going now. And the lukewarm church not standing up and saying, this is the kind of community we want. This is what we want is is gonna live with the consequences. And I agree, look, look at Chris Cuomo, who a lot of people would say, he's no friend of Christian America.

• 2:00:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Wait a minute, he's Catholic and he's speaking up from liberal New York with his family and his history. And the one thing I agree that Chris said is, is it okay to have an insular Muslim community? That will discriminate on housing and will just do the following things? Is that okay? He goes, no, that's not okay. Chris is right and it's up to where are we? Where where are we standing up and what are we accepting? And guess what? You can expect more of the consequence of what you accept.

• 2:00:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:00:39Adam Sosnick?

  PBD, can I ask you a question, PBD?

• 2:00:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Of course.

• 2:00:42Adam Sosnick?

  Um, cause and thank you, Tom, for mentioning Chris Cuomo where we started this thing. I actually didn't even know we were going to talk about this segment. I I'm in New York right now. I texted Chris Cuomo this weekend. Hey, great take, just randomly. And he goes, hey, thank you.

• 2:00:57Adam Sosnick?

  You're one of your family mottos was tolerance, but you removed it. I know we've discussed this, but I feel like it'd be very relevant to ask this question now.

• 2:01:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:01:07Adam Sosnick?

  Why is tolerance no longer some of your family credo?

• 2:01:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen, this is how I judge everything. It's very simple. I'll watch an individual and I'll say, what is that sound, Rob?

• 2:01:20Tom Ellsworth?

  That is police. They must be driving by.

• 2:01:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 2:01:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Police.

• 2:01:23Patrick Bet-David?

  So I'll watch, I'll watch, uh, uh, friends of mine, okay? That we're doing business with or during the company. And I'll see two guys that are having lunch. And say this guy was on the right track, he was doing the right thing. And I noticed he's hanging out with this person a long time. A year he's around them all the time. Life gets worse, quits the business, starts drinking, partying hardcore, gets distracted. And I realized anytime that person is around anybody, their life gets worse. Okay. So then you'll look at certain companies, Tom, and you'll you'll judge somebody that's with a company. And you'll say, when, when, when I'm around that company, I just make better decisions in life. When I'm working. With that company, they produce better leaders. Jack Welch was known as what?

• 2:02:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Producing great executives that everybody wanted to hire. Xerox had a reputation of what? If you worked at Xerox for five to 10 years, guess what Xerox produces? Incredible salespeople. If you go through IBM sales system, they produce great salespeople. If you worked at Valley Total Fitness, they had an incredible sales system, combining with Tom Hopkins and all this other stuff. They learned how to sell. If you worked in certain companies, you learn how to get better with people, right? Look, I, I, it's pure results.

• 2:02:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Every community, America was founded on Christianity. Okay, America, the foundation. I'm not telling you it's 100%. You know, the debate with Thomas Jefferson, I totally get it. We can, we can go there as well. But it was their, their entire constitution is very close. What things they use from the Bible, but the main principle was conservative values and principles. Christian conservative values and principles. What do they produce and who do they attract? How many companies did they build? That positively impacts around the world? How many people can come here? Who lives here? Can we attract anybody and everybody that comes here? Muslims come here. Muslims feel safer here than a Muslim nations. Because opportunity is better. Okay, great. So then the argument becomes, alright,

• 2:03:19Patrick Bet-David?

  if you claim your religion is peaceful, show peace. If you claim that you guys produce better products, show what companies you produced. Show that if your community goes into a city, it becomes safer, produces jobs, works with other people, does better. Show it. Show it. Listen, a lot of people say a lot of bad things about Scientologists. A lot of people say a lot of bad things about Scientologists. And it, it's, it's very easy religion to have a what do you call it? Like a punching bag, taking shots at them. You know what I know about Scientologists? Any Scientologist I've worked with, they work their asses off. Okay, they, they just do. They, they, they, they ask very good questions. That, that whole system they go through. And I know this is maybe for some people it's gonna be weird.

• 2:04:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Analogy, they create jobs, they create businesses, people in that community benefit. What city in America known for Scientology? Is it Tampa? I think that's one of the cities that they have. Clearwater. Right, guess what? There's jobs that are being created. If you do good, you do good. If you don't, you don't. You can't go and judge everything with Christians, Jews, Catholic, Muslims, Scientology, seven-day Jehovah Witness, LDS. Go judge them atheist, agnostic, go judge them. What happens to those communities? If it produces results, I want more of it. You notice a pattern that you go to UK and you destroy UK? And you're changing UK and all these cities?

• 2:04:46Patrick Bet-David?

  And you want us to sit in America and be patient and tolerant and not be speculative that what could happen in America? No, that's not gonna happen here. We're gonna do our part on, if you're coming here, this is America. This is the greatest country in the world, and it's the last place. If we don't figure this thing out in America, everywhere across the country, you're gonna have to get on that place that Elon Musk wants to go to, that's living on another frickin' planet to say, dude, they screwed this one up. Let's at least go to a different planet, see what they're gonna be doing with that one. No, you gotta stay strong with it. And again, I have a lot of messages that they send to me on my neck. Can't believe you just said this? Show me communities that create jobs, businesses, and it's safe, low crime? Show me, show me, and then we'll entertain it.

• 2:05:31Patrick Bet-David?

  If not, I'm sorry. You have to have a proof of your argument that you have. And you have to show that it happens in multiple places. Not taking one of the best exception to the rule and send this one demo that's 78 people living there and this is what's going on here. No, I'll go to the next one, tell you what's going on. So Iran, let's go to Iran, okay? So the nuclear deal with Iran. Rob, if you can tell me what page it is, I'll go straight to it. Uh, there it is. So Iran rejects all compromise at fifth round of talks with US begin. This is a bribe art story, Rob. I think you got a video on this one here. If you can play this clip, here's President Trump, watch this one here, go for it.

• 2:06:11Adam Sosnick?

  We had some very good talks with Iran yesterday and today, and let's see what happens. But I think we could have some good news on the Iran front. Likewise with Hamas on Gaza. We want to see if we can stop that, and Israel. We've been talking to them, and we want to see if we can stop that whole situation as quickly as possible. But having to do with nuclear, we've had some very, very good talks with Iran, and I don't know if I'll be telling you anything good or bad over the next two days, but I have a feeling I might be telling you something good. We've had some real progress, serious progress.

• 2:06:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, thoughts?

• 2:06:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I think it was a very busy interview on the tarmac, because this is one of our earlier stories started here, too.

• 2:07:02Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right.

• 2:07:03Tom Ellsworth?

  And I think what... Look, the interesting thing is, I was waiting for a reporter to speak up on this one, for him to say is... I'm not going to tell you how I'm going to do this. Waiting for that, because our reporters just don't know how to cover foreign policy. I like what he was saying, and I think what he's got to figure out is this red line in the sand, is how do you stop Iran from continuing their enrichment program and to build centrifuges that are going to enrich...

• 2:07:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Maybe let me ask a question, because it looks like you're trying to answer for 30 seconds, you haven't put your thoughts together. Here's a question for you, Tom. Do you believe you can negotiate with Iran, and they are on it? Like, how do you hold Iran accountable, and they say, "We're not going to have a nuclear plant here"? How do you know for a fact that they're not going to do it? How do you trust them that they're not going to do it?

• 2:07:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, first of all, the trust level with Iran is somewhere between 5% and 0.

• 2:07:59Patrick Bet-David?

  So why should the president even attempt to negotiate with Iran? What's the benefit of negotiating with Iran?

• 2:08:03Tom Ellsworth?

  The benefit of negotiating with Iran is to let the rest of the world see what you see, and let the skeptics see that you tried everything you could before you had to do something that was heavily economic, or maybe turn to, you know, have Israel do a surgical strike to go take care of the nuclear capabilities. You have to show that you tried and tried and tried and tried, so you have the moral authority to go to the rest of the world and say, "I did it your way. I tried it." And so I think that's my thought on that.

• 2:08:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so you think there's no way they're gonna be honest with us? Because right now, when you think about Israel, Rob, if you go online, you type in, "How many nuclear weapons do Iran and Israel have?" It'll say zero, right? But majority of the world believes that both Israel and Iran have nuclear capabilities, okay? Whether they have it or not, and it's documented or not, who knows?

• 2:09:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Israel weapons, Iran capabilities.

• 2:09:06Patrick Bet-David?

  They have ninety of them, but Iran is, you know, well, they don't have any, but, you know, they do, they may not, all this other stuff, right? Now, Iran doesn't publicly acknowledge possessing nuclear weapons or not.

• 2:09:17Tom Ellsworth?

  They probably do.

• 2:09:18Patrick Bet-David?

  But I'm convinced they have it. I'm convinced they have it, and it's somewhere there. Why would you negotiate with them? So it's only for public to show the world that we are willing to work with them, to see how far along we can go with Iran. Adam, what is your position here with negotiating with Iran? This is the fifth round, and the president says, "I'm gonna have some good news." What could actually be good news that you would believe? That you would believe Iran's side?

• 2:09:42Adam Sosnick?

  I don't agree with you, PBD, that Iran already has a nuclear weapon. In my opinion, I could be wrong. The reason I'm so adamant about that is because I firmly believe if they had a weapon, they will use it and make everybody, including Israel and anyone in that surrounding area, go meet Allah. So it's no secret that nuclear physicists based in Iran go missing for some convenient reason, because Israel believes in self-perseverance and eliminating the threat before it actually occurs. So every single one of these major components has an agenda.

• 2:10:23Adam Sosnick?

  Israel wants a nuclear weapon to either A, use it, or B, hold the world hostage. The United States under Trump has a simple goal of getting a good deal. Don't forget, there was a bad deal in place under Obama that Trump reversed, and now they're trying to come up with a framework of a good deal, whatever that means. And then Israel, who's basically looking at the Iran and the world jockey for a position, and Israel is basically just saying, "Um, we don't want to be nuclear annihilated." And in my opinion, Israel could potentially strike first if they truly think that Iran actually has a nuclear weapon, because Iran would use it, based on all estimations.

• 2:11:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I'm convinced they have it. I'm convinced they have it. I'm convinced. Uh, North Korea has them and hasn't used it. You said that, I think, last week that you disagree, but at the same time, you believe if Iran had it, they would attack.

• 2:11:23Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, why do you think, why are you so convinced that they have it already?

• 2:11:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so, so listen, you know, uh, uh, I'm on a flight here. And on a flight here, it's, it's a, we're in a place that's only eight of us. Seven is people with me. One person says they're very successful man. He starts bragging about his, uh, fa- uh, uh, grandfather. And he and I just become close friends like this on a flight. And we talked for an hour and a half to the point where my son is like that. Can you stop talking to him and talk to me? And it was such an awesome conversation. And he starts telling me traditions he had since he was four years old. His grandfather was a very successful man. That at the age of one or two, net worth of three and a half, four billion dollars, super successful. And there's a quote about his profile that I'm reading. That says, this was a man that if you saw him on the outside, he was, you know, tough as nails.

• 2:12:12Patrick Bet-David?

  But if you were able to get all the way deep down inside, he was a teddy bear, right? And he has a very softer side. Many didn't see, few saw. Okay. Then there is the opposite. There's those who act hard on the outside, but deep down inside, they're scared shitless. And they don't want to do anything. I think that's exactly what the current regime in Iran is. I think deep down inside, they're scared. I think deep down inside, they want to act tough in front of their people to win over their people that they have. But on the outside, on deep, deep, deep inside, they, they are so afraid of what could happen to them. What could happen if they lose it all, all of a sudden? What could happen if people figure out how much they're abusing them, how much money they're stealing from them? What would really happen? And I'm talking Khamenei and all the way at the top, whatever names you want to talk about. I'm talking about all of them.

• 2:12:56Patrick Bet-David?

  They're worried about that. What if they find out Iran could be a, you know, power player around the world if we open up the market? I just don't believe what's gonna happen. Look, there's a video clip many years ago of Mike Wallace sitting down with

• 2:13:12Patrick Bet-David?

  the Shah. And they're talking, and Mike Wallace says, do you know how the CIA from America views you? Because you know, what do most people say after Mossad? They say, they say the Shah is whose puppet? They say the Shah is the West puppet. He's a puppet of the West. He's a, he's a West puppet. Look how US CIA profiling Shah. Because the Shah says, you can't tell me what they think about me. Have you seen this clip before? Watch this clip here. Watch this clip here. It's fascinating.

• 2:13:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Go back a little bit, Rob, we missed the first second, please. Yeah, go for it.

• 2:13:43Speaker 00

  Are you aware of a CIA psychological profile about you, sir?

• 2:13:49Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I must admit that it's the first time I hear that.

• 2:13:53Speaker 00

  Truly?

• 2:13:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, what is it?

• 2:13:55Speaker 00

  Would you be interested in hearing what the CIA had to say? Yes, why not? Really? Yes, why not? I have your permission?

• 2:14:05Speaker 00

  You won't send me to the Savak if I ask?

• 2:14:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen. Uh, no, I would spare you this terrible ordeal of going through torture.

• 2:14:13Speaker 00

  This secret study portrays the Shah as a brilliant but dangerous megalomaniac, who is likely to pursue his own aims in disregard of US interests. So how could I be your man, your agent?

• 2:14:26Speaker 00

  How do you mean? Safeguarding your interests. Well, it says that the Shah is an uncertain ally. His dreams of glory apparently-

• 2:14:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, ah, I know. So you would like me to be your stooge?

• 2:14:39Speaker 00

  Do you want me to go on or shall I forget about this?

• 2:14:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, some funny points, why not?

• 2:14:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Just being brutally honest, right? Just being brutally honest. You watch this video, Rob, can you show, can you show, this is the Shah, and guess who's in the backseat? Who do you think, this is a roller coaster ride. The Shah and the Queen are in the front. Guess who's getting in the backseat? Play the clip and you'll see in a second.

• 2:15:05Speaker 00

  There's the Shah of Iran and his pretty empress in the front seat. And Walt Disney and the pretty hostess in the back.

• 2:15:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Walt Disney in the back.

• 2:15:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Load audio a little bit, Rob.

• 2:15:27Speaker 03

  What a random group of people.

• 2:15:29Patrick Bet-David?

  But let me, let me show you. Okay, pause it. Okay, you know what this is like? This is like showing, uh, Rob, this is like showing, go to show the picture of Khamenei. Go, go to show the current president of Iran or the, you know, Khamenei, if you can type in, uh, uh, uh. This is like showing Khamenei right now, gets in a roller coaster ride with his wife and Bob Iger and his wife.

• 2:15:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, okay, well, there goes the hat.

• 2:15:59Patrick Bet-David?

  How do you do that?

• 2:16:00Speaker 03

  Oh, that's so bad.

• 2:16:01Patrick Bet-David?

  How do you do that today?

• 2:16:02Speaker 03

  It's not happening.

• 2:16:02Patrick Bet-David?

  But the point is Iranians have to realize what Iranians had at one point was absolutely amazing. The access to resources, the place where everybody wanted to visit, you know, a place where everybody could go and have some business as well, advertise as well. Watch this clip here showing women in different countries in the 70s versus today. This is Iraqi women in the 70s. Go ahead and play the clip.

• 2:16:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Who looks happier? Them?

• 2:16:28Speaker 03

  Nope.

• 2:16:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Who looks happier?

• 2:16:30Speaker 03

  Them.

• 2:16:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Egyptian woman, 50s, or them?

• 2:16:33Speaker 03

  No.

• 2:16:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Lower the audio a little bit, Rob, so we don't get any other stuff. Look at this one. Algerian woman, 1970, today, okay? And this continues. Syrian woman, 1973, today.

• 2:16:43Speaker 03

  Boom.

• 2:16:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Who looks happier? Actually, logical question. Iranian woman in the 70s, today. Iranian woman, 2023. Afghan woman, 1958, versus today.

• 2:16:53Speaker 03

  No.

• 2:16:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Who looks happier?

• 2:16:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I really can't. You know, I think it would be unfair to judge this because you can't see their faces anymore, so how do you know if they're happier?

• 2:17:00Speaker 03

  I wouldn't know.

• 2:17:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen, this message is being given more to the Iranian people than anything else. That you have to realize when you have something with beautiful natural resources, incredible history. I've been to a lot of incredible museums in my life, truly, a lot of incredible museums in my life. Some incredible places in Greece. You go to Acropolis, magical. I don't know if you've been. Of course, we're gonna go when you see it. Adam, you've been to Acropolis, it's something else, right? Tom, you've been to Acropolis, something else. You go and see where people fought, Alexander the Great. You go to, you know, Italy, beautiful places, you're Venice, the, you know, cathedrals they built. You know, Christopher Columbus walked here and all this other stuff. Every, all these museums in America, nothing comes close to the museums you go to in Iran.

• 2:17:45Patrick Bet-David?

  It's such a, I mean, obviously, I've never been to Israel, so I can't sit there, I look forward to going to Israel to see where Jesus walked and kind of go through, see a lot of those things, we'll probably will be doing that here in the next couple of years. I can't wait to do that. But Iran, nothing like seeing the history of Iran. There's something very unique about it. And I'd like to see very early, in the next few years, future looks bright. I'd like to do a hat like this, with Iran on the side, instead of Florida, because you know, right now, Florida was first place, second was Texas, third was California, fourth was New York. Fourth was last place, right? Florida was first place. I'd like to do these hats, except you know what I want these hats to be?

• 2:18:25Patrick Bet-David?

  To put the map of Iran, okay? I'd love to go and have that experience. Imagine we go with a big group of people together to go and travel there and have some kebab, have some l'omeh kebab, have some, you know, liver, you know, jigat, like with the seasoning on top of it, with the, you know, what do you call it? The corn with the salt and, oh my God, and listening to all the "De la mi jodbe is fahon bar yar damen", and you see Tom behind, he's just shaking his head, it's just going like this.

• 2:18:53Adam Sosnick?

  My favorite song, my favorite song.

• 2:18:54Speaker 03

  It's in my top five.

• 2:18:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I know it is in your top five, but that is, that is the part that I'd like to see happen. And you know who's capable of making this happen? It's hard. The Iranian people, as well as a little bit of help. The Queen the other day said, "It's very obvious we're not getting any help from President Trump to help Iran be free again." That comment was made, that the current administration is not helping that happen.

• 2:19:20Speaker 03

  So there's a difference between the Queen and that guy?

• 2:19:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Farah, Farah, there's only one, Farah.

• 2:19:25Speaker 03

  Yep, and what's her, what's her relationship with that guy?

• 2:19:27Patrick Bet-David?

  She was the husb, she was the wife of the Shah of Iran.

• 2:19:30Speaker 03

  Oh, okay. So, so, so, Pat, does this?

• 2:19:32Adam Sosnick?

  She's still alive?

• 2:19:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, she is.

• 2:19:33Speaker 03

  So the, so, so question, because you, historically, you could kind of help me out. So, the switch from that, the leader that made that happen, who got him out and put in the new one? Is it the people, or was it?

• 2:19:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, that's a very complicated story that a lot of people... Where you been?

• 2:19:52Speaker 03

  No, no, hold on, but hold on, so, so Pat, so, do the people have the power, right now, the people, to change that guy, like how we did, how America did with, with Trump winning in 2016, then what happened in 2020, and then coming back, and the people are like, no, no, we don't give a damn what you guys are trying to say what we want, this is what we want.

• 2:20:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you what they have, you ready? These are two things they got, these two things.

• 2:20:18Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:20:18Patrick Bet-David?

  This is what they have. They have a phone with a camera, and they got a mic. This is the most important weapon Iranians have. There's not a more important weapon than this. It's called a phone record post. It's called a mic, talk into it, and get louder, and louder, and louder. There's plenty of them that are doing it.

• 2:20:38Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:20:38Patrick Bet-David?

  And expose. In Brazil, there's a young man named Nicolas Vieira, right? The guy's an absolute incredible communicator, who is, I think he got the most views last year on Instagram for a couple, I think he has the most viewed video of the year, if I'm not mistaken. This guy's an absolute amazing young stud that'll be a president of Brazil probably by 2036, a- a- around that time. The younger generation of Iran needs to get louder, and louder, and louder, and louder, and louder, until you cannot arrest a thousand different kids in a bunch of different regions. Whether they're here, whether they're there, whether they're in Dubai, whether they're anywhere around the world that they left, they gotta get vocal, to the point that you can't go kill everybody.

• 2:21:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:21:18Patrick Bet-David?

  What are you gonna do, you gonna kill 5,000 people in 300 different locations? You can't do that, then everyone's gonna know what the hell you're all about, and it's out. But they gotta use these two weapons. Let them use all the other weapons, you use these two weapons. And it's gonna take a level of courage, I think the, the, this next generation, we're gonna see some heroes in Iran we've never seen before, who are gonna go in the history books of bringing peace in the Middle East. Of truly bringing peace in the Middle East. The kind of peace that this man, Mohamed Azar Shah Pahlavi, had in Iran, pre-1979, when it was free. But that's gonna take a while. But those two weapons are available to everybody. You know, we accidentally started, some guy who's a fan of Ayatollah starts an Instagram account called VT Farsi.

• 2:22:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, and if you go to VT Farsi, we don't do this. Just so you know this, if you go to VT Farsi, Rob, you gotta put VT Farsi together. Yeah, put VT Farsi together, and look how he does it. I don't even know how he does it, by the way. And it gets millions of views, okay? Can you go to the reels, Rob? Go to the reels if it shows up. Go to the reels that he's got. He's got the top three pinned over there. 1.9, 1.4. Go to, say, the first one. Whichever one that they translate my voice. Let's see if this is the one. Go ahead. I'm to you, Rob. Far the Iran, Qablu, bad as in, Gila, we be hit on, no show, bedam. Agi mi xwa in far gasho, be fahmiin. Farat be in do to share, he ke, bache hae Irani, bad as in, Gila, we zaman Shah, mi xoonan, gush koin. Far gat do to tarz, tafak, gora, mot vajh, mishin.

• 2:22:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Evil America, listen here, bro. This is the codeine for our operation.

• 2:22:54Patrick Bet-David?

  These are words from Allah, promised Allah. We can pause it here. But this is the power today. Ooh, there's a couple media companies that did it right. Use these two weapons. Use these two weapons you got. Use them accordingly. Unite, find each other, get loud, create groups, become... First start small, local, then go regional, then go national, then go international, then create big telegram groups, and it's already been done, by the way. It's already been done, but a big part of it is who's gonna get the credit? Who's gonna get the credit? Who's gonna get the credit? You want freedom is what you want. I don't give who gets the credit. You just wanna make sure that freedom happens there. But eventually, God willing, this will happen. And it'll actually make the world a safer place for a lot of other people. Anyways, we are at the end of the podcast.

• 2:23:37Patrick Bet-David?

  And we've been going for quite some time here, Tom. Uh, and Adam. Adam, originally, we were a little bit worried with you because when you first came on, y-y-y-you know, I don't know if we were gonna cut it or not, Adam was watching some inappropriate videos. It was disgusting. Isn't this hotel room? I'm like, why are you watching videos like that? Like, you're 40, 46, 45.

• 2:23:54Adam Sosnick?

  I'm sorry for watching CNN, PBD.

• 2:23:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, that's what we're talking about. Why would you watch that? But no, let us, let us, uh, we, we are right now out of the country. And you know what? Rob, I think, uh, showing that, do we show that? We're working on something massive that we're gonna bring back and show you what project we're working on. That we've been, we've been working on this thing for about, would you say a year and a half, two years? Has this been in ideation mode for about a year and a half?

• 2:24:22Tom Ellsworth?

  I think it's probably honestly two years.

• 2:24:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Two years, I think.

• 2:24:24Tom Ellsworth?

  From like early ideation, when you were thinking about it and you put some things down to, to processing that out to all the way where we are today, Pat, I think it's a full two years.

• 2:24:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, look, for those of you guys that are still here, are still with us after two hours, and I don't know where we are right now, 15 minutes, let's just show the highlight clip here on where we are right now, so you can kind of get an idea. We are somewhere in Italy right now, working on a big project that we'll be launching here very soon. Rob, go ahead and play the highlights.

• 2:24:58Patrick Bet-David?

  It's exciting.

• 2:25:00Patrick Bet-David?

  It's exciting stuff.

• 2:25:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh.

• 2:25:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at that tattoo, like damn.

• 2:25:21Patrick Bet-David?

  That was a good meeting, Vinnie.

• 2:25:22Speaker 03

  That was amazing. How soon?

• 2:25:25Patrick Bet-David?

  We will be releasing these meetings here soon. More intel, it'll be announced a lot at the Vault Conference, but stay tuned. You're in a half in the works.

• 2:25:44Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, Rob, we can put it on pause. Stay tuned. I think probably first week of August, we'll give you a teaser of what it is at the Vault. Everybody will see it and find out about it. It's been an exciting project that we've been working on for two years. But anyways, gang, hanging out with us. We will not be doing podcasts on Thursday. We'll be busy the entire weekend, and we get back next week, and we will definitely be doing the podcast next week, once we get, we get back in the country. With that being said, take care, everybody. God bless. Bye bye, bye bye.

• 2:26:24Patrick Bet-David?

  The.