The Snack: Picklewiches, Wicked P*rn, and Breakup NDAs

Welcome back to The Snack – a lighter serving of Girls Gotta Eat. This week, we're talking about: A horny announcement for pickle lovers Picklewiches – yay or nay? Wicked dolls linked to a p0rn site Megan Fox and MGK are pregnant Wheel of Fortune and Family Feud mishaps Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders back for S2 on Netflix Post-election self talk and self care Brianna Chickenfry and Zach Bryan's $12M hush money Follow us on Instagram @girlsgottaeatpodcast, Ashley @ashhess, and Rayna @rayna.greenberg. Visit girlsgottaeat.com for tour dates, merchandise, and more. Thank you to our partners this week: Helix: Get 25% off + 2 free pillows with any mattress order or a free bedding bundle with any Luxe or Elite mattress at https://helixsleep.com/gge. Skims: Shop Skims Holiday Shop at https://skims.com. Hexclad: Get 10% at https://hexclad.com/gge. Embark: Get $65 off Embark's Breed + Health test and free shipping at https://embarkvet.com with code GGE. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Rayna Greenberg?

  Welcome to the snack, a lighter serving of Girls Gotta Eat.

• 0:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  This is a Dear Media production. Enjoy.

• 0:10Rayna Greenberg?

  Hi guys.

• 0:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Hi.

• 0:12Rayna Greenberg?

  Happy Thursday.

• 0:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Happy National Pickle Day.

• 0:15Rayna Greenberg?

  It's pickle day in our lives a lot.

• 0:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Suck on a pickle.

• 0:18Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm glad that you asked.

• 0:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  Tune into YouTube right now, everybody. Raina.

• 0:23Rayna Greenberg?

  This is thicker than any beyond, this is bigger than the microphone.

• 0:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Almost.

• 0:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  The hero we need.

• 0:32Rayna Greenberg?

  There's only one dick I think I've ever had in my mouth is this big.

• 0:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's not, uh huh.

• 0:38Rayna Greenberg?

  How big he was?

• 0:44Rayna Greenberg?

  Like break your jaw.

• 0:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  This might have the most YouTube. Did you unlock your jaw?

• 0:50Rayna Greenberg?

  Screen jobs that, no, you see me deep throat microphones on stage and pickles like not that even that big of a jump after that.

• 1:03Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, actually, so the two biggest I've ever had were the guy I lost my virginity to.

• 1:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 1:08Rayna Greenberg?

  And which I fact checked like 10 years, like we kept, we kept sleeping with each other for a long time. So after somebody else had blown me out, like I got back in there.

• 1:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, because you don't know for sure what it, you know, after your first, you don't know what's normal.

• 1:19Rayna Greenberg?

  And the bodyguard in Charleston.

• 1:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 1:21Rayna Greenberg?

  It's, it's accurate.

• 1:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  To look at that is like triggering, like I could feel that in my pussy. I think you're liking it. Okay. Now the jar.

• 1:29Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm, I am liking it a little too much.

• 1:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right back to the jar.

• 1:31Rayna Greenberg?

  No, Tessa, can you go take this?

• 1:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Eat this later. This will be on her resume one day.

• 1:38Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah. Here, take this side that wasn't in my mouth. I'm giving you the side that wasn't in my mouth.

• 1:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Just throw it out. We have plenty more. Yeah. Grab that end.

• 1:44Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah. Yeah, you can throw it out.

• 1:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  What if we looked over Tessa was sucking on it? I would be proud of her. Close to you.

• 1:52Rayna Greenberg?

  Like that's your bonus.

• 1:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Pickle Sisters. Okay, so today is National Pickle Day and we will tell you why it's important to us this year because we are launching a new product. But we sent Tessa out on a pickle run and she brought a jar of her yesterday and I was like, not big enough, you know, let's see if we can find the the big ones.

• 2:11Rayna Greenberg?

  She got sliced ones.

• 2:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, she was like, they were bigger. She brought us a couple of options and I was like, no, I'm looking for like jumbo. And then Tessa just.

• 2:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Look at those little chow.

• 2:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Went on a search through the city to find these. And where did you get them, Tessa? Smart and final. Smart and final.

• 2:28Rayna Greenberg?

  These look like the Sam's Club tub.

• 2:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  So Smart and Final is where you can find your thick pickles. Those are thick boys.

• 2:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Thickles.

• 2:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  Thickles.

• 2:38Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. Do you know what this reminded me of? I can't believe this hasn't come up yet. This summer, we took a trip.

• 2:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 2:45Rayna Greenberg?

  It's a, yeah, when I saw Sparkle Eyes's dick. Um, no, this summer, we took a trip and your mom was so sweet. She texted me and our friend, what would you guys like in the house? And our other friend that's coming has some dietary restrictions. She's very specific about what she wants, but she got very specific about the pickles.

• 3:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  About the pickles, yes.

• 3:03Rayna Greenberg?

  And she sent your mom a bullet pointed list and I have, I roasted her. So you were on the text. I think everybody was just trying to like, not bother you. You, you know, you coordinated the house and the trip.

• 3:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Once I heard about it, I was, I wasn't pleased.

• 3:15Rayna Greenberg?

  I was like, do I tell her? Cause our friend sent your mom a bullet pointed checklist from her notes section, snacks, cloths and pickles, ideally the sandwich stackers, but spears will be the next best thing, then half pickles, then whole. So your mom goes to the grocery store, hey, would you like bread and butter? Or would you like dill? Dill, please, works for me. This, I mean, imagine saying it to somebody's mom.

• 3:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  She is thorough. She, the thing is, is at first I was like, please do not treat my mom like she's your assistant. Like, she's nice enough to go grocery shopping for everybody. But then I really tried to get my head around it because I didn't love it. And I love her and she's like family.

• 3:55Rayna Greenberg?

  We love her.

• 3:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  She sent the list she would want to receive because if she was in the store and you had told her to get pickles, she would want to get you those exact same pickles. And she would be like, well, what's your second choice? Okay. Well, what's your third choice? Give me your top five choices of pickles so I can get the right thing for you.

• 4:11Rayna Greenberg?

  And how do you want them sliced?

• 4:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. So she gave the list she would want to receive. But I was like, how dare you? Cindy is a saint. And now she's doing your pickle run.

• 4:22Rayna Greenberg?

  I was upstairs and my, I was in my bedroom and I was like, I don't know if I could tell Ashley about this.

• 4:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm fine. We all got through it, but yeah, Pickle Gate was this past summer.

• 4:31Rayna Greenberg?

  And I like, listen, she's a good supporter. She let me make, I made fun of her in front of your mom for days.

• 4:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Exactly. No, like, I was like, the way my, and my mom roasted her, like, everybody was in on it. She walked that list back quick.

• 4:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Anyways, we'll thank a couple of our partners and we'll talk about why we're telling you about pickles. Thanks to Skims Shop, Skims Holiday Shop at skims.com and Hexclad. Get 10% off at hexclad.com/gge.

• 4:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  And thanks to Helix, get 25% off sitewide and two free pillows with any mattress order and a free bedding bundle with any luxe or elite mattress order at helixsleep.com/gge. And Embark, get $65 off Embark's breed and health test and free shipping at embarkvet.com with code GGE. Okay. So we already gave you the spoiler, but this is our pickle report. Kicking it off with the pickle report on National Pickle Day. Raina, you want to do the, do the honors?

• 5:26Rayna Greenberg?

  I had to suck on that pickle. So you know, Ashley and I love our suck and blow gel from Vibes Only. And we are announcing by very popular demand, overwhelming demand, a dill pickle suck and blow gel. And this took me by storm because you posted on your Instagram, like, what flavors are you guys looking for? And like overwhelmingly dill pickle.

• 5:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  So to give you guys the backstory, this was earlier this year, I posted on my story. I might've even been over the holidays of 2023, like what, I was just bored at home, you know, like what flavors? Do you guys want to see next year in 2024? And again, a lot of people said dill pickle and I couldn't tell people were trolling me or not. And we find that a lot of people will say things just to get a laugh and they wouldn't really buy that shit. Like people were like, Old Bay. I was like, shut up, y'all. So for April Fool's Day, we put out some funny flavors as like an April Fools gag for our second blow gel, which again is penis and vulva friendly. It just enhances the oral experience. We love it. It's a best seller and you guys love it and we love that. And we did dill pickle, charcuterie. Do you remember some of the others?

• 6:28Rayna Greenberg?

  Spicy rigatoni.

• 6:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  Was taco flavor one of them? No, I don't think that was one of the ones that made the cut. But there were so many different ones and tested design these funny posts. And in the comments, people were like, I wish this was real. Definitely the pickle one. Like people were like, I can't believe the pickle is not real.

• 6:43Rayna Greenberg?

  So for a limited time only, we have dill pickle on the site vibesonly.com. And you can suck a dill pickle flavored pickle or put it on your pussy.

• 6:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  New meaning to pickleball.

• 6:55Rayna Greenberg?

  That is great.

• 6:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  Get your mouth around some pickleballs. If you don't like to play the sport, make it a sport in the bedroom. We're playing pickleball tonight, babe. Can you imagine? Like the puns alone, the flirting, dude, you get it for the flirting of it all. You ready for some pickleball tonight?

• 7:10Rayna Greenberg?

  I love it. If you're just like a hamburger enthusiast or just like a condiment enthusiast in general, maybe you're like from Chicago. You like the Chicago dogs with all the relish on it, you know? Make a Chicago dog.

• 7:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  And you can make a pickle witch with his dick. And we wanted to talk about the pickle witch. So Jimmy John's released a pickle witch. They're not the first people to ever make a pickle witch. People were saying there was this place in Detroit that was like the creators, whatever. I'm not, so I don't want to credit them with like inventing the sandwich. But they introduced it on October 24th and their pickle witch is pickles on as the bread, basically. So, and there's two different types you can get, but like the turkey pickle witch, for example, is two giant pickles as the roll and then tomato, provolone, turkey and lettuce.

• 7:59Rayna Greenberg?

  I feel that the ratio of pickle to fillings on these, not for me. I need a little less pickle and a little more fillings.

• 8:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 8:07Rayna Greenberg?

  Like I would, listen, it's not my favorite thing. I would fuck with this a couple bites, especially if I was pregnant.

• 8:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, pregnant people got excited. What's not gonna be for me is to bite into what should be a, you know, hoagie roll and it squirts.

• 8:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Or it snaps. I hate that snap of the pickles.

• 8:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't like the squirt. Like, that's why I don't like, like, a sausage casing. Like, I don't wanna, it's something that like, you know, I don't know.

• 8:29Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, I don't bite into a sausage. I like to slice it.

• 8:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right.

• 8:32Rayna Greenberg?

  Like, that's, I like that little slice up the hot sauce. You know, so like, when I bite into it, it doesn't snap like that.

• 8:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't like a snap. Yes.

• 8:38Rayna Greenberg?

  It gives me the ick.

• 8:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 8:39Rayna Greenberg?

  It gives me the ick like when I get Botox too, you know, that little pop.

• 8:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Stop, stop, stop. Okay, so some of the, some of the comments, some of my favorite comments, which Raina and I love when, like, food brands comment on each other's shit, or they beef. Like, I love, like, Wendy's and Burger King will, like, beef on Twitter. So Hellman's Mayonnaise commented, "It's missing something with the eyes."

• 8:57Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, the Hellman's, you can't put a Hellman's Mayonnaise, though, on, I'm a huge Mayonnaise fan. If you can't put it on pickles, it would be too wet. Can you imagine how wet, that thing would be slipping and sliding.

• 9:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  Not the slip and slide. Okay, one of my favorite comments is Cheese It commented, "Speechless."

• 9:14Rayna Greenberg?

  You could, you know, I could dry that out a little bit with some Cheese It's. Food bloggers tried it.

• 9:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, yeah, and here's the comment, "What's the dill Detroit?" We just wanna shout out Detroit. So, "What's the dill Detroit?" is what people were crediting. That's stuffed kosher pickle sandwiches in Detroit at this deli. If you guys are in Detroit, try that out. And food bloggers tried it. I mean, a lot of the headlines I saw were, "I tried the pickle, which so you don't have to." Cause this is a one-time thing. Like, do you think people are going back for repeat purchases?

• 9:41Rayna Greenberg?

  No, this is not like a, you're not going back.

• 9:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  But what if you just, it hits, it might hit different for some people, pregnant people.

• 9:48Rayna Greenberg?

  And also, it would have to be dill pickle for me. It couldn't be anything else. Like, a really mild, like, Jewish dill pickle, like, Jewish deli dill pickle and a couple bites.

• 9:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  I mean, pickles are polarizing. I feel like the best couple is one that doesn't like pickles and one, is one person likes pickles and one doesn't, cause then you always get their pickle.

• 10:06Rayna Greenberg?

  I like pickles. Okay, hear me out. I don't need a pickle sandwich, but I'll do a pickle stack. Like, the pickle is like the chip on the bottom and then you put shit on top of it. But like, the double pickle gives me the ick.

• 10:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, like, I used to stack it.

• 10:19Rayna Greenberg?

  When I was a kid, I would take a dill spear and wrap it in, like, a cold cut.

• 10:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  What? Is that weird?

• 10:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  When I got home and then I would eat a sleeve of Oreos.

• 10:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  You know, I had a problem. You know, my parents were like, you have to stop eating Oreos.

• 10:38Rayna Greenberg?

  This is the really trashy version of the Italian like melon and prosciutto.

• 10:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  I invented, I invented charcuterie, everybody.

• 10:48Rayna Greenberg?

  This is like the Ralph's grocery, the Aldi grocery store of the like beautiful high end Italian appetizer of melon and prosciutto. Ashley's like pickles and salami.

• 10:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  It would usually be turkey. It would usually be a little boar's head, but yeah, I love wrapping a pickle in a cold cut. There are turkeys on the pickle witch.

• 11:07Rayna Greenberg?

  I need something salty in there.

• 11:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. You know what? Now that we're doing this, I want to tell you the other pickle witch. So there's two. I read you the turkey one, but the other one is a little crazier.

• 11:16Rayna Greenberg?

  All right, I'm into it.

• 11:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  The other one went a little rogue. The Vito pickle witch. Okay. So this is basically the Italian. Oregano, basil, tomato, provolone, capocolo, salami, onion, oil and vinegar and lettuce. Okay. So you can get an Italian or a turkey, basically.

• 11:29Rayna Greenberg?

  I love an Italian sandwich so much and I've tried all of them. I make it like my literal business to go to every place and try Italian sandwiches, like in the world.

• 11:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  Love it. Okay. So let's transition into something else green and that is going to be the Wicked premiere.

• 11:42Rayna Greenberg?

  So the Wicked movie premiere, the movie version of Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo, and it was like my whole feed. And so I was like, we've got to talk about it. The red carpet was all green and pink, some interesting outfits, but that was not the craziest thing that came out of the whole wicked situation. So Mattel was supposed to, Mattel released a

• 12:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Wicked dolls.

• 12:06Rayna Greenberg?

  A wicked doll. Mattel was supposed to have a hit with its wicked dolls ahead of the movie premiere, but it backfired. So the official Mattel dolls, the wicked dolls on the back, there is a link, there's a QR code and there's a link, but it links to a porn site.

• 12:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  So it links to wicked.com. Which. Who didn't check this? You know, like it's supposed to be wickedmovie.com basically, and it just links to wicked.com. I checked out wicked.com this morning, obviously.

• 12:34Rayna Greenberg?

  How is that site?

• 12:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's not so bad. Like you don't open it and it's just like, you know, dick and pussy, but it's like shows other like movies. You know, do you know what's at the top of it is Stormy Daniels.

• 12:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, so it's like Let's Get Naughty.

• 12:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, yeah. No, kids should not be on it.

• 12:47Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 12:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  But it's funny because they probably got a lot of traffic and they were like, put Stormy at the top. Make sure it's, she's trending.

• 12:54Rayna Greenberg?

  That's crazy.

• 12:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  And she's coming up again in this episode, I want to be clear.

• 12:57Rayna Greenberg?

  She is.

• 12:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  I have another thing to say about Stormy Daniels. We're talking about hush money.

• 13:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Get into it. No, I just thought it was funny. It was like, what's the most trending porn? They put it at the top. Yeah, it's just like a porn site. I don't know. I don't, I don't know if it's like a Netflix type thing.

• 13:11Rayna Greenberg?

  Do you think that this was on purpose? Not like, do you think somebody from the inside like played a joke on Mattel? This feels shocking.

• 13:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  It doesn't fucking matter. Someone's supposed to check that shit.

• 13:21Rayna Greenberg?

  But like the person who's supposed to check it might've done it. I was like, it's an inside job.

• 13:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like the, the, the final boss of fact, of the, of editing.

• 13:30Rayna Greenberg?

  Got them. So Mattel was asked to make a statement and they said, consumers who have already have the product are advised to discard the product packaging or obscure the link and may contact Mattel customer service for further information. So Mattel's official statement is.

• 13:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Just throw out the box. Do you think these are collector's items?

• 13:47Rayna Greenberg?

  Fuck yeah. I would never throw out this box.

• 13:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  These have to be on eBay right now.

• 13:51Rayna Greenberg?

  But like, can't you just change the link?

• 13:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like the Clandel.

• 13:57Rayna Greenberg?

  Was the Clandel ever really released? Or was just like the promo for the Clandel released and no one ever got the Clandel?

• 14:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  People got the Clandel.

• 14:08Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes. Like it was on the website, people ordered the Clandel?

• 14:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think so.

• 14:14Rayna Greenberg?

  Do you think it's on, do you think it's on eBay?

• 14:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, that's what I'm saying. There were, it was, that's people put it on eBay. Which is like, just fucked.

• 14:22Rayna Greenberg?

  Wait, was it really called the Clandel or you made it up?

• 14:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's what the internet called it.

• 14:28Rayna Greenberg?

  It's on Facebook Marketplace.

• 14:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, we don't support this.

• 14:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, so you can get the porn doll on eBay. It's gotta be, the box has gotta be on there.

• 14:41Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, somebody kept those boxes, but I like the Mattel's like official statements like, what do you want me to do? Throw out the box, leave us alone.

• 14:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Target.

• 14:48Rayna Greenberg?

  Mattel's like, we wish we had the URL. Links to purchase the dolls on websites, including Targets, have stopped working. Mattel declined to confirm whether a recall would happen. So they're just like, grow up.

• 14:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Grow up.

• 14:59Rayna Greenberg?

  That's what Mattel, Mattel's telling people. Mattel's like, we sell toys to kids, but also grow up.

• 15:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  And you know what? If your kid is able to access that URL, maybe they shouldn't have a phone.

• 15:07Rayna Greenberg?

  Also true.

• 15:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Is your kid on your family computer wicked.com?

• 15:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  You know what I mean? Like, maybe.

• 15:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Teaching them a lesson.

• 15:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  You shouldn't have an iPhone that opens a QR.

• 15:16Rayna Greenberg?

  No, I'm with you.

• 15:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, I have one more thing about the movie, which I haven't seen it yet, but I've seen the musical on Broadway and I love it. And so, you know, we, we support Wicked, obviously.

• 15:25Rayna Greenberg?

  I read the book on brand.

• 15:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  That is crazy.

• 15:27Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 15:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's always, that's very, Raina, it's, it's very like, um, nobody, Raina. I read the book.

• 15:33Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes, it is.

• 15:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  One little fun fact I thought was very cute was Jonathan Bailey is in it from Bridgerton. Both of his characters, Fiero and Wicked and Anthony Bridgerton in Bridgerton are horseback riders. And so both projects required Bailey to work closely with an animal. In this case, it was the same horse.

• 15:51Rayna Greenberg?

  Wait, that's so precious. Oh, I love that.

• 15:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  Is that like his horse?

• 15:56Rayna Greenberg?

  Had the same horse.

• 15:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  There's like his horse?

• 15:58Rayna Greenberg?

  I think it's just his like sidekick on movies.

• 16:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  Wait, that's so cute. Oh, they're like a bonded pair.

• 16:03Rayna Greenberg?

  Like, I love that he was like, I'm gonna need the same horse.

• 16:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  Cause horses are unpredictable. You know, like he has this bond with that horse.

• 16:09Rayna Greenberg?

  Wait, that's so sweet.

• 16:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 16:11Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, I love that. Yeah. Um, I can't wait to see the movie. It looks so good. I'm so excited. And we had a really good friend that went to the premiere and she said it was incredible.

• 16:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 16:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Uh, so I can't wait.

• 16:21Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 17:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's like, let's talk about their health and what the breed mix could teach you about it. It's a great holiday gift. I love this. I mean, if it's, you know, obviously you get it for yourself or a dog lover in your life, anyone who's really obsessed with their dog, which is most people who have a dog, this is really one of the most thoughtful gifts you can give. And I always just want to mention that this is the breed test that my vet recommends, Dr. Lisa Littman, who has just been with me every step of the way with Dewey and with Azul. This is the one she recommends. And one of the things she told me about it when we talked about it initially was she told me that you can find your dog's family and who their relatives are. So embark's relative finder gives you the ability to find and connect with your dog's relatives using their messenger feature. Can you imagine? Like, it's just crazy. Like, I could find Azul's relatives

• 17:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  and I could like message them and be like, you want to meet up?

• 17:50Rayna Greenberg?

  No, I love it. It's so sweet.

• 17:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  So embark will tell you based on science how much DNA your dog shares with other embark dogs in the database, of course, that the other dogs have to be in the database too, and offers you the ability to connect directly with them. I just think that is so cool. So this is just the best thing. We, this is the breed test that that we recommend and that we endorse. And again, it makes a really great holiday gift and it's a fun game to play. I mean, to be able to just present a breed reveal, way better than a gender reveal.

• 18:16Rayna Greenberg?

  Your family, there's no family for dogs.

• 18:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  Just go around the room. You know what else I like is that you could, if you love to be right, like me, you could predict what you think and then see if you're right. You could have a whole like

• 18:28Rayna Greenberg?

  drinking game around it?

• 18:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  What's it called? Like a pool, like a gambling thing, like in the family.

• 18:33Rayna Greenberg?

  I just said, Ashley, you just love the idea of being in the middle of a bunch of people and they're all like, you're right, you're right, you're right.

• 18:38Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 19:02Rayna Greenberg?

  All right. So with the holidays coming up, I think we're entertaining more than ever. We're having people over to our houses and the most important thing when I'm entertaining is having cookware that is just like reliable, easy to clean. I like that it like, looks good. Like when people walk into your house, they see all stuff on your stove and like, looks beautiful. I love that. So Hexclad's innovative hybrid design combines the best of both worlds, giving you the ease of nonstick cookware, the durability of cast iron and the versatility of stainless steel. I just like, love, I love all the things that they're saying. So normally a high-end cookware takes forever to clean. It is just the easiest thing to clean. That is really important to me. Like, I will leave pots and pans in my sink for days, otherwise, just like, avoiding the task. But they make it really, really simple to just like, clean, move on, take care of the people that you love. So it can be like a great family tradition to incorporate into the holidays.

• 19:50Rayna Greenberg?

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• 20:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  I got some pots and pans, but I love the, I got the big wok.

• 20:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Uh huh.

• 20:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  And I love it because I did not have like, a big, like, wok pan.

• 20:47Rayna Greenberg?

  I love one.

• 20:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  You know, I know. So I'm excited to cook with that and it's really gorgeous. I love the inside of it. It just looks kind of like different and cool, fancy, high-tech.

• 20:55Rayna Greenberg?

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• 21:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, so we're just gonna run through a couple of quick headlines.

• 21:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Here's one that really took me by surprise. Megan Fox is pregnant with Machine Gun Kelly's child and they previously suffered a miscarriage. So it's their rainbow baby. I just never know if these two are together. I just, I can't keep up. I think they were at some event together recently. I saw them getting out of a car together and I was like, oh, whose birthday party were they at? Doesn't matter.

• 21:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I just don't really keep up with them.

• 21:44Rayna Greenberg?

  And she went on Call Her Daddy and I think said that they weren't really together and they've broken up kind of publicly. And then there was like all these insinuations. There was like a cheating scandal with somebody in his band, but they are together and Brian Austin Green congratulated them. Cute.

• 21:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  It was cute. Yeah, I mean, congrats to them. What do you think they're gonna name that baby? You think it's gonna be something crazy?

• 22:03Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes. There's not a chance in hell that's not gonna be a crazy name. I was looking at Brian Austin Green for a second and this interview popped up where Tori Spelling had to remind him that they had sex.

• 22:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  The two of them?

• 22:12Rayna Greenberg?

  The two of them. Cause she knew they were on 9210 together. She was his girlfriend on 9210. And she was like, no, we've had sex together.

• 22:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  But like, real? Outside of the show?

• 22:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Outside of the show.

• 22:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh.

• 22:24Rayna Greenberg?

  Donna was emerging.

• 22:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Why did that come up?

• 22:26Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't know.

• 22:29Rayna Greenberg?

  Just, you know, I was on the internet trying to find joy.

• 22:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 22:32Rayna Greenberg?

  You know, there's not a lot of joy on the internet right now, so I'm trying to avoid other stuff.

• 22:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, well, speaking of joy on the internet, this really gave me a laugh. So this Wheel of Fortune moment went viral after he guessed wrongly. So this contestant, this was just this past Monday, the contestant will attempted to solve the puzzle, give yourself a round of applause and will show it up on the screen for YouTube, like the letters that were already there.

• 22:54Rayna Greenberg?

  It's not that close.

• 22:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  And with just a few squares missing, will incorrectly guessed, treat yourself a round of sausage.

• 23:06Rayna Greenberg?

  It's not really close, you guys.

• 23:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  But it's, it depends on where your head's at.

• 23:12Rayna Greenberg?

  I, if I was drunk, it's not even close, to be honest. And if

• 23:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  You're right. The letters don't even match.

• 23:18Rayna Greenberg?

  They don't match up. They don't match up if you spell them out. I mean, if I was drunk, maybe.

• 23:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 23:23Rayna Greenberg?

  I could see drunk me making that decision because I'm just like, who cares?

• 23:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  He was just hungry.

• 23:26Rayna Greenberg?

  You're just silly.

• 23:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  He just wanted some sausage. You shouldn't play Wheel of Fortune hungry.

• 23:31Rayna Greenberg?

  You can't go to the grocery store.

• 23:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Go to the grocery store hungry. I love stuff like this, like Wheel of Fortune and like Family Feud. Have you ever watched like Family Feud, like compilations?

• 23:41Rayna Greenberg?

  I know. It's like your favorite thing. I actually only watch Family Feud when you send me Family Feud stuff. I forget that you're such a Family Feud stan.

• 23:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, I just think Steve Harvey is hilarious and I love when people surprise him, you know? He has the funniest reactions. I want to go on that one day.

• 23:58Rayna Greenberg?

  I know. It's your dream.

• 23:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  My family, like I just, I'm dying. And I watched it with my grandma when I was a kid. Like I, I'm not sitting around watching it every night, but I've always really had an affinity for it. And I really used to watch it back in the day.

• 24:09Rayna Greenberg?

  Who would you want to go up against?

• 24:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh my God, like what other family?

• 24:12Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah. I can't believe you never thought about this. You're like really such a fan. And I want to manifest this for you. No, I mean, I still remember you telling me about this. We were like,

• 24:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  What family would we do?

• 24:23Rayna Greenberg?

  Would be like you, right? Be like you, Matt, Cindy, like everybody, the family.

• 24:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Your family?

• 24:28Rayna Greenberg?

  No.

• 24:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes.

• 24:29Rayna Greenberg?

  We would just argue the whole time?

• 24:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Wait, I'm obsessed with this. It should be both our families against each other. Your dad, your dad versus my dad.

• 24:38Rayna Greenberg?

  My dad would be drunk.

• 24:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Your dad would shuffle up to the thing.

• 24:40Rayna Greenberg?

  He'd fart on stage.

• 24:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm dying. No, like I love this idea because you and I would go up against each other to start, to kick it off. And then our brothers and then our dads and then our sister in laws.

• 24:53Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, I like that idea. Okay. And my mom would be like, why am I even here? This isn't funny. I don't like this.

• 24:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. I don't know. I think my, I think my mom would do, well, I don't know. I'm trying to think of, Matt would probably,

• 25:04Rayna Greenberg?

  Arlen would, Arlen would sweep the room.

• 25:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 25:06Rayna Greenberg?

  He would be so good at this.

• 25:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think we would too.

• 25:09Rayna Greenberg?

  I would put Arlen as a teammate, number one.

• 25:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 25:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Not me. I would not, I'm not, I'm not the, I'm not the team captain for this one.

• 25:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Not the team captain.

• 25:18Rayna Greenberg?

  My brother just like knows so much about so many things.

• 25:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  But there's some categories you might know more, like more pop culture stuff.

• 25:25Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, he's not on social media. So I'm like, how do you know anything?

• 25:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  Exactly.

• 25:28Rayna Greenberg?

  But like, if you want to talk about like fossil fuels and finance.

• 25:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  And sometimes they're dirty. Like, I love the like sexual ones and, you know, and like Steve Harvey ax all surprise. It's like, you knew the category. The one recently said like sexiest game show host. Like, he was on the board. Like Steve Harvey was up there.

• 25:46Rayna Greenberg?

  Can you try to find this? Like people that submit responses to Family Feud? Because they said that like 30 million people were, but like, have you ever met anybody that's ever submitted? So Family Feud is basically like-

• 25:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, like how they do the surveys?

• 25:58Rayna Greenberg?

  How do they do the surveys? So like basically, if you guys have never seen Family Feud, it'll say like, give me an example.

• 26:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, A, they have like top six whatever. So who answered that? And at the end, they say like the percentage of people that answered these other questions. It's all based on like these alleged surveys.

• 26:15Rayna Greenberg?

  So you say like, okay, what are the top six things you take camping with you? And then it's a list and then like people shout things out like a tent. But like they've surveyed people to see like what are the, what's the number one thing through six? And like, they say that they've surveyed like 30 million people, but we don't know one person that's ever taken this.

• 26:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, exactly. Let us know.

• 26:32Rayna Greenberg?

  That's who found it.

• 26:33Speaker 02

  So it's anonymous polling. So you-

• 26:35Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, I bet it is.

• 26:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, because they don't want to, you don't want to like, they don't want you to know that it's for Family Feud.

• 26:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  But who's, what, where do you sign up for this?

• 26:43Speaker 02

  So it says, "Today polling for Family Feud is conducted via telephone surveys similar to those used in political polling."

• 26:49Rayna Greenberg?

  Who is it? The telephone?

• 26:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  Your phone banking. Let me do this.

• 26:53Speaker 02

  Applied Research West is a- Is a third-party polling firm selected in 2000 by NBC to conduct weekly surveys for the game show. They use random digital dialing to ensure that the sample is more reflective of the general US population. And each survey includes 30 to 40 questions gathered from writers who submit hundreds of potential queries to the show's producers because they only poll 100 people per question.

• 27:14Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, what if somebody called you and was like, "Hi ma'am, do you have some time to talk about camping?" Like what? Who is answering and then saying yes?

• 27:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know.

• 27:22Rayna Greenberg?

  But did they say we're calling from Family Feud?

• 27:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, I mean, it sounds like it's anonymous.

• 27:26Rayna Greenberg?

  But who would stay on the phone?

• 27:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  People do stay, older people do stay on the phone. Like, it's easy for us to be like, hang up. But like, older people, that's who you are able to get through to.

• 27:34Rayna Greenberg?

  Think of the older people you know. My dad, you, my dad would stay on that phone.

• 27:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's probably, I don't know, you'd be surprised. They stay on the phone more than younger people.

• 27:42Rayna Greenberg?

  It's the kind of people that talk to Uber drivers.

• 27:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, it was your dad.

• 27:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, well, now we know. Allegedly, they're calling people. Allegedly, they're phone banking, but I want to be, I want to get in on that.

• 27:52Rayna Greenberg?

  Um, you know.

• 27:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  And they're so skewed sometimes, because like, one, the craziest one I saw recently was best rappers. And it's like, who did they, did they call a bunch of

• 28:01Rayna Greenberg?

  My dad.

• 28:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  middle-aged people in middle America to ask this question? Like, the results were crazy. Like, people were shook by it. Like, I don't remember. It was like, just not who you would have expected. Even Steve Harvey was like, who answered this?

• 28:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, and the last headline is Dallas Cowboys show docu-series America Sweethearts is going to come back for season two. We loved the first season, we talked about it a lot, but I have to read this, like, kind of shade that I saw from Kate Kennedy, which Kate Kennedy loved the show, and we talked about her a lot. She did a lot of episodes on it. Her podcast is called Be There in Five, and she had Victoria on the show.

• 28:40Rayna Greenberg?

  Right.

• 28:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  Remember? And if you know the show, you know Victoria, obviously, and she didn't go back for her final fifth season. And she's been like vocal about kind of the toxicity within the organization. And a clip of Kate talking to Victoria went viral and saying that Victoria felt hurt that people didn't come to her birthday party. And she was just open about it. She was like, I don't know if everybody got the invite. Like, she wasn't really slamming anybody. And then all of the cheerleaders, like, commented on the TikTok and were like, I'm really hurt that you feel like this, like, made it about themselves. It was kind of crazy. And Kate was, like, running the tape on this, and she talked about it on her podcast as well, did a whole deep dive. And she was like, they're all together right now at, like, training camp and what's sitting around, like, bombing the comments of this thing. And so, anyway, so Kate wrote on her story.

• 29:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  She says, I hope in season two, there's a clip from the day the entire team broke down during training camp to comment on my mid-tier podcast video, saying they were hurt. Victoria said that the team hurt her feelings. I repeat, they were upset. She made them look bad, not that she was hurt by them. So, I, I mean,

• 29:41Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, they would never allow that.

• 29:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Great.

• 29:42Rayna Greenberg?

  I just think that they're very protective of their image and I don't think that like the organization of the Dallas Cowboys would allow a clip like that to come out. It's very much like protect the image at all costs.

• 29:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, of course. You know, not trying to drag anybody, but I like to, that's all out there for you guys to listen to if you guys are curious. And I did listen to her interview with Victoria and I enjoyed it and kind of her coming out of the organization and being able to see a lot of things she didn't see when she was inside of it. And so I found that really interesting.

• 30:08Rayna Greenberg?

  You know, it was like one of my favorite shows of the year.

• 30:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 30:10Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm just, I'm obsessed with it. I can't wait till, I miss Reese. I miss her so much. Sweet little angel.

• 30:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  I feel like, I don't know, I might be out on some like deep south Texas content. I understand. In 2025. I understand. Yeah. You know, whatever you need to do to protect your peace, but I'm gonna be there. Catch me at CCC season two. Well, I did just want to say something kind of along that note. You know, we did our episode last week, which was our recap and our feelings and thoughts on the election and we got a ton of positive comments from you guys and saying it helped you feel better and we really appreciate that. And some people didn't echo those thoughts and that's fine too. And some people wish we would have went harder. And again, like our feelings are gonna like evolve and change. And I think a lot of the things we said on last week's episode was like the self-talk we're trying to tell each other.

• 31:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  But, you know, again, this isn't going to be every week, but right now it still is like the thing that's dominating all the news. It's, it's gonna be like this. Unfortunately, I feel like it's reminding me of how this was in 2016 as we kind of started to have a cabinet being selected and all these things. And it's just gonna dominate the news cycle. And so we are still a week post-election. And I think a lot of us are still filled with a range of emotions, like anger, sadness, you know, still in disbelief that this country elected a president who has made it so clear he wants to be an authoritarian leader and dismantle all our democracy. And that's what I struggle with a lot. It's just that those thoughts of like, where are we headed and how did we get here? And I consume a lot of content of like, best course of action. What can we do?

• 31:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  How can we, you know, self-care? And I think at this point, you know, the best thing you can do is, is really find your community. And this was something that I saw AOC talking about, like Jessica Williams on the on the Daily Show and like really find those people that like understand you and hold your same values and make you feel safe and just hold on to them like we do have to stick together and use our power together and those moments with those people make you feel better too. And when you're around those people that you feel safe around and that you feel like you can share openly about how you're feeling, those moments make you feel better too. And I think really think about the things that like bring you joy and like lean into them. You know, this is things I've had to think about like I'm like, I can't shut my brain

• 32:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  off like I need to do something that makes me feel better in this moment. And like, what is that going to be? And like finding that balance of like what you consume, how you consume it, you know, you can't let this take over your brain and your thoughts and your life for who knows how long. And so this is like the self talk I'm giving myself too, because I've been on a loop where like every hour, it's another thing that fires me up or something. And so I'm like, how much am I do I need to be on social media? Like what other news do I need to consume? Like what's going to feel less inflammatory to me, but still keeping me abreast of what's going on? I do think that balance is important, but I, you know, I don't want people to like bury their head in the sand. You know, like what is going to happen? And soon could have a lot of negative impact on a lot of

• 33:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  people. You know, we're talking about the Donald Trump shuttering the Department of Education, these mass deportations, like find that balance for you and take care of yourself. But I encourage you to not look away. And, you know, we have a midterm election in two years where hopefully things can change, you know, Democrats can hopefully get their shit together and we can take back the Senate and the House and really restore that system of checks and balances that the US is known for. And I also just want to say, pay attention to your governors and your senators and your local leaders. You know, what Gavin Newsom is trying to do right now is really protect the state of California from a lot of these things that may happen. He's kind of kind of Trump proof it. And I think it's important to pay attention to what the people are doing in your state and in your local communities.

• 33:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  13 states next year will have women governors. That's a record. Sadly, it should be more, but that's positive. See what they're doing. You know, your senators, you know, know their names if you don't already. See what they stand for, support them if they hold your values. And these people are just really important and they're more important than ever as we move forward. And so I just think get to know them, know their names, you know, and like stay abreast of what's going on, even if it's sometimes hard to digest what's happening at the national federal level in the White House, like what's going on in your like local and state governments. And I recommend Emily Amick's book. She was on our podcast a few months ago, Emily and Your Phone. And you can listen back to that episode.

• 34:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  And then also, I just think her book is really great when it comes to actionable items and things you can do, especially to get involved on like a local level. So if you're like, what can I actually do, you know, like I'm not the expert, you know, she's a great resource too. So that's how I'm feeling today.

• 34:50Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I think there's still a lot of feelings and mixed emotions. And I found a lot of hope in all of your comments last week and all of your emails and your responses and things you guys wrote on YouTube. And a lot of you are very kind to each other even. And I think that this type of stuff really, it encourages a lot of inflammation and arguing back and forth online. And I was really proud of our audience that you guys approached this with a lot of kindness and openness. And that to me is self-care as well, not arguing with people online and just taking care of yourself. And if you need to take a break from social media and things out there, that's fine too, you know? And I certainly have. And I think that, you know, we all got to find our balance between burying our heads in the sand and just taking a mental health break, which is what I have needed to do.

• 35:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Mm hmm.

• 35:35Rayna Greenberg?

  So just take care of yourselves.

• 35:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, definitely. I think again, it's finding that balance because I understand feeling like you got to put someone in their place and being like angry and wanted to say something and wanted to pop off. And again, I've been

• 35:48Rayna Greenberg?

  Save it for Thanksgiving dinner.

• 35:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  I've been working on this for years, trying to find that balance, you know? So that's all I can say. We're just like with you and we are here for you and we feel you if these are the emotions that you're having. Okay, well, we are just going to take another quick break and then we will get back into it and talk about the tea. I am going to tell you guys about Helix. Oh God, good sleep is more important than ever. I will say that. And I will say, people have asked like, how are you sleeping? And I'm like, I'm sleeping fine. When I wake up. It's, it's some, I remember some things and life starts to, reality starts to sink in, but my sleep is great.

• 36:26Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 36:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  And I really think I have Helix to thank for that. Like, I was rolling around in bed this morning, just like, this is why I sleep well. This is the reason. Like, how comfortable my bed is, is the number one reason of why I sleep so well. So, we're obsessed with Helix, the mattresses. We both have them. Our family and friends have them and had them for years. I mean, I have one, my, obviously, my house, and then there's one in my guest room. I have one in my parents' house. I have the Midnight Luxe. That is what I sleep on. And I used to have a Moonlight Luxe. They offer big and tall mattresses. They offer mattresses for kids. And then they have their standard mattresses, their luxe mattresses, and their elite mattresses. So, they have a quiz online. You can take it and talk about what type of sleeper you

• 37:08Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 37:48Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 38:17Rayna Greenberg?

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• 39:01Rayna Greenberg?

  It is so comfortable. It looks cute. Honestly, I would even throw it on a pair of heels and wear it out. Like it is just the most comfy. It looks great. It's great to lounge around the house. It's very, very soft and flattering.

• 39:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's everybody's getting this this year. Sorry. Like cats out of the bag. That that soft lounge sleep set, like again, Rain and I have both have the, the, the red color, but there's different colors. I've never worn anything like it.

• 39:22Rayna Greenberg?

  Told you.

• 39:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's, I want to live in it.

• 39:24Rayna Greenberg?

  I told you, I've been wearing that black for a long time. Now I got the brick.

• 39:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's ribbed. It's soft. It's like stretchy.

• 39:30Rayna Greenberg?

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• 39:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 39:47Rayna Greenberg?

  Now we sent you guys.

• 39:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 39:48Rayna Greenberg?

  So the thing that is really dominating my news seed is the Brianna Chicken Fry, Zach Bryan breakup and all the tea she is spilling because she rejected a $12 million hush money payoff.

• 40:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. So we talked about them right when they broke up. The news was breaking.

• 40:04Rayna Greenberg?

  As.

• 40:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  As we recorded the snack a few weeks ago and she said she was blindsided by his breakup post. And as it turns out, they were trying to get back together. She was trying, like she thought they were maybe going to get back together and then he hit her with that post and it kind of came out that it was because he had been seen on Raya. So you can listen to all this on the Barstool Podcast BFFs, which she does with Dave Portnoy, which is, you know, not that we're the biggest fan of that, but this is like where the tea is. I mean, she's a Barstool podcaster. So they broke up and then it was like back and forth. For a while and she wasn't sure if it was over and then he was on a riot, which is like, you're the most famous person, you know? And so then he kind of tried to cover it up and like post on his Instagram, like we're broken up

• 40:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  and she didn't see that coming. She hadn't told her family. She hadn't told her friends. Like, we've all been in those relationships where you think it's still going to work out. You know, even though we'll talk about how it was so toxic and, you know, so emotionally abusive, like she was still like, had hope for the relationship. And so she didn't even, she wasn't even certain it was over. And then he posts this thing online.

• 41:08Rayna Greenberg?

  I think at that level of fame, also you expect somebody to give you a heads up. Like, it's the news cycle is going to start around this. You're going to start getting calls. Like, most couples, if it's relatively amicable, release a statement on the same day. I mean, you're talking about one of the most famous singers in the country right now. You'd think he'd give her like a warning shot. In honor of our relationship, I know it's over, but like here, this is going to happen. So he did not do that. So apparently it was a very volatile, I would say emotionally abusive, verbally abusive relationship. The stories that have come out, they sound awful to deal with. And he offered her, um, his people did $12 million to sign an NDA, a home, um, also an apartment. So she has rejected all of this and she has decided to forego the money and spill the tea instead.

• 41:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. And it was interesting because it's not a lump sum. If you guys are curious how it worked out, it was like three years. So like one year, if she doesn't say anything, she gets the $4 million. And then, you know, $4 million each year is what it sounded like.

• 42:06Rayna Greenberg?

  Investing schedule?

• 42:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, it's just.

• 42:08Rayna Greenberg?

  This is hysterical. I did not know this.

• 42:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, it makes sense. I have questions. I mean, obviously an NDA is not for three years. Like they're saying they're contractually what you can't say anything forever. Or they could come back and sue you for the money, right?

• 42:23Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't know if there's statute of limitations on an NDA. I mean, you could put anything you want in a contract. Yeah. You could put a gag order on somebody until the end of time and that's what the money's for.

• 42:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  I mean, Trump only offered Stormy Daniels $130K.

• 42:35Rayna Greenberg?

  That is so cheap.

• 42:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Brian's level.

• 42:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  $130,000.

• 42:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Compared to this 12 billion of

• 42:46Rayna Greenberg?

  I guess it depends on what you have on somebody, right?

• 42:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right.

• 42:48Rayna Greenberg?

  So Brianna Chicken Fry said, basically, I mean, she's told quite a few stories that sound very emotionally abusive.

• 42:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like narcissistic, really.

• 42:55Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 42:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  Just like screaming at her.

• 42:57Rayna Greenberg?

  A little. Yeah. And really just taking all of her self-worth and her confidence and if these things are all true, which I'm assuming that they are. But she said in one of the stories that she has video of him, her family and her friends have video of him like verbally berating all of them and screaming. And she said, I'm assuming part of the money is for the video. So I don't, I think also like, all these other people aren't on an NDA. Like she could have taken the money and everybody around her could have released this stuff.

• 43:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  I love that.

• 43:26Rayna Greenberg?

  Like she could have taken that. I just, I, I

• 43:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  I could have now? I never thought of that. Like, like me and you, obviously.

• 43:34Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 43:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, are you going to be in my NDA? Like, are you under my NDA too? Cause then you're like, well, I need some money too. Cause I'm like, if this happened to me, if some famous person and I broke up and then they were like, okay, Ashley, well, here's your 12 million dollars over three years to not say anything. I'm like, but you didn't say Reina.

• 43:52Rayna Greenberg?

  It's funny you ask that. Cause Grace O'Malley, who she does the podcast with, people were saying, you know, she hasn't said anything. She hasn't made a statement. And the song that he wrote, Pink Skies, is about Grace O'Malley and people, he mentions her in the song.

• 44:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  What?

• 44:07Rayna Greenberg?

  So basically what had happened was the song, Pink Skies, and he mentions Grace.

• 44:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, Zach Bryan song.

• 44:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Jack Bryan song. Basically Brianna Chicken Fry says, I forced him to go to her grandmother's funeral, Grace O'Malley's funeral. He screamed at me for the whole day and then he wrote that song at night. And then people are saying like, is Grace O'Malley on his side? Did he pay her off? Is that why she's not making a statement? And they have had some like pretty public, not falling out, but back and forth. People have thought they may not be friends anymore or anything. My theory is that when you are with somebody who is emotionally abusive, they try to isolate you from the people around you that are going to help you and be on your side. And that makes a lot of sense why a friendship would fall apart. So she did finally release a statement. She said two days ago. I wish I didn't even have to say this, but there is no world where I would ever take money

• 44:56Rayna Greenberg?

  from that clown to shut me up. There's been, this has been quite a year and I'm still not ready to talk about it online. I'm just happy that Bry is free and from that piece of shit. That's all for now.

• 45:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  Damn.

• 45:08Rayna Greenberg?

  Love it. Love to see it. And she posted, the background is a post, I guess from that event, that maybe the funeral or something. It's a photo of that day.

• 45:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Mm-hmm.

• 45:18Rayna Greenberg?

  So she's basically saying, these stories are true.

• 45:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right.

• 45:22Rayna Greenberg?

  These things happened and yeah, I'm on my girl's side.

• 45:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. Oh, I don't even know where, if we have so many things we want to discuss, we don't, I don't even know where to begin, but like, the theme is just what a fraud he is, you know, and how he would start these fights and then obviously be like such a good guy in public. Like there was this dress she wore to this event and he slut shamed her and was like, "Don't wear that," you know, which is very like emotionally abusive again. And then he ended up like, what, posting a picture of her in the dress on his story and like, "That's my girl."

• 45:51Rayna Greenberg?

  Was it the Grammys?

• 45:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  Was it the Grammys?

• 45:53Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't know where to show.

• 45:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. And, you know, just basically being like, you know, "That's my girl." Like, that's so gross. That's actually one of the grosser things of all of it. It's just like, that is sick. Like if someone ever does that, that is so like, just feels like so manipulative, like so premeditated, like to know that you're fighting with somebody, slut shaming them, whatever it is over something they're wearing, and then you're gonna post it on your own story, like, "How hot is she?" Like, "Oh, I'm sticking by it." The same thing with that. Like, if he was like, "I don't want to go to this fucking funeral," and then he's gonna write a song about it. Like, he's just a fraud and he's trying to look good in public and I don't know what's, what's gonna happen to him. You know, I really liked his music. I think a lot of people did. You know, he kind of defied these genres of pop and country and he was really blowing up. And it's like, now, clearly not a good guy.

• 46:34Rayna Greenberg?

  It's just, it's very interesting to see behind the curtain of something like that. Like the specifically the photo you're talking about where he's like, "She's so beautiful, she looks so great, that's my girl." Like, I looked at them online and I was like, "That is the most in love couple."

• 46:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes.

• 46:45Rayna Greenberg?

  They're so happy. Like, if these two can't make it, who can? And like, I really watched them, their online persona, and was like, "This is, this is love. This is what companionship looks like. This is what best friendship looks like." I mean, the way that they would speak about each other, I was like, "This is it."

• 47:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  But doesn't that kind of go to the whole like, not that I buy into this all the time, but what like the longer the caption, the like, the more they're fighting behind closed, you know, like kind of it's the ups and the downs. So when you see the picture perfect relationship on social media, that's an up, you know, like it's coming off of a fight. They just made up. I mean, we all know how those ups and downs goes, like the volatility followed by the really intense, like making up, the makeup sex, the I love yous, all that stuff. So it's like, you see the posting in those highs, which is not, not authentic, you know, it's just like, that's what is happening when you're showing the world your relationship.

• 47:41Rayna Greenberg?

  It's just I

• 47:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  More stable relationships don't always appear that way.

• 47:45Rayna Greenberg?

  But like you and I are so hyper on the internet. I know that everything you see is not true and I know that so many things are put on, but like that relationship and like Jason Tardik and Kat, I don't root for anybody to break up, but like I saw them and I was like, that's the goal. Look how in love they are. They look so happy. He just loves her daughter and they're such a team and such a unit. They seem so elated. And I, you know, you look at that and you're like, I want that for myself. I want those things. And it's like, it's just a good reminder that like what you see is not always

• 48:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Very different.

• 48:14Rayna Greenberg?

  Reality.

• 48:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think Kat and Jason, what was happening on

• 48:17Rayna Greenberg?

  Tremendously different.

• 48:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, like that's, I don't, those are not comparable in terms of that. Like, I don't think they had some toxic thing going on the inside. I know they didn't. They just broke up for other reasons and I think you can tell he's very sad and you know, like it feels really authentic to me. Like this was not authentic and because she's been like emotionally abused and she knows she is and she takes a lot of blame for it, which you know, it's not fair to blame yourself. We've all been there, you know, but she's like, I kept going back to it, you know? Like, I hate that I enabled this person by staying with him.

• 48:49Rayna Greenberg?

  I just, I think there's a lot of self blame that comes with this and you and I are certainly not therapists, but like it's not your fault and people don't start off acting like this day one. And they break you down with a lot of love and kindness and friendship. And he was so kind to her family, bought them a house. Like he really ingratiated himself with her, her community. It seems like he slowly started to do these things, isolate her from her friends and create situations that you can't come back. From and you know, to blame yourself at all for this is it's so natural, but it's so not the truth because he didn't show up day one and call you a piece of shit and slut, you know?

• 49:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Love bombed, which is actually how it starts. So all, you know, like even on the podcast, they were like, oh, he tattooed your name on him, you know, week one or whatever, like red flag. You know, it does start with love bombing. Again, not, not blaming anybody for not like picking up on those signs, but it's like, that's more typical of how these relationships start. And so many celebrities are like this. I'm not saying all famous artists are, but so many are. This is like a tale as old as time, you know, a lot of times these people who get super famous have the ego and this is how they're going to be in a relationship. Again, not all of them, but the paying someone off is so gross. It's like, you know, not saying he's like a physical abuser or anything is like Diddy, but it's just like, that's the, that's the energy. I can pay my way out of this. Like I can move through life, just hurting people, collateral damage,

• 50:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  whoever, you know, ruining these women's lives in some cases. Again, I'm not saying that's, that's just across the board, the people that have done this. And then I'll just pay my way out of it. And it's just like, not anymore. You're not. And I love that she didn't take that money. She's like, I'm not taking your hush money, you know, like I can't live in a house. I know you bought, so I wouldn't talk about how terrible you are, but I was thinking deep about it. I was like, I couldn't do it, you know, I just couldn't, I couldn't live with myself knowing that's where that money came from. I don't want this fucking money, you know, and that is just personal to me. And I don't, I wouldn't shame anybody who, who would, you know?

• 50:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I, either way that you chose, I would have no judgment about it. Like if somebody was like, $12 million would change my life, my family's life forever. And I need this. And it's not, it's not, it's more important to me to do that. Like I'd be like, go off, do whatever you want, you know, but she, it's so admirable and incredible that she's like, no, no, no, I want the whole world to know what you are like.

• 51:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, and this is when you just start to see people getting so famous and you know, it's sickening. And this is, I mean, you know, as an example, is like a Brett Kavanaugh situation, you know, like what he did to Christine Blasey Ford, you know, when they were in high school, she obviously tried to forget, you know, he wasn't a politician at the time. You know, and then you watch somebody about to be a lifelong Supreme Court Justice. I mean, the same with Trump or whoever it is like you. These things happen and however you cope with them is how you cope with them. There's no right or wrong. And then you see them getting more famous. I mean, obviously Zach Bryan is so famous now, but he's only going to get more and more famous. You will never be able to escape him. You know, like he could be one of the biggest recording artists in the world and you have to be like, I can't say anything because he paid me. No, couldn't live with myself.

• 51:50Rayna Greenberg?

  You really couldn't. I know.

• 51:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  You're like, maybe I could.

• 51:53Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't know. I just, she's 25, 25 year old. Me probably would have taken the money. I don't, I really have no idea. And you say to yourself like, well, what impact can she make? You know, and I see it a lot of ways, you know? I think a lot of people can separate the artist from the art. If you're just like, well, he is a verbally and emotionally abusive boyfriend, but I can still go to his concerts. That's not me, you know? But I hope that some people will digest that and take the time to think. You and I were talking about this. Would you want to put your money towards somebody like that? You know, if friends of ours, you and I offered us a ticket to his concert, not only would I not give my money for that, I wouldn't go.

• 52:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  I wouldn't go. Yeah.

• 52:30Rayna Greenberg?

  Like I wouldn't support that publicly. If his song came on the radio, I probably wouldn't change the channel.

• 52:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. So yeah, so I have made my Spotify say, do not play Diddy music, which was tough because I was a bad boy for life. And he's in a lot of songs, but I had to say, I don't want to hear it. On Spotify, you can say, don't play this artist if you guys didn't know. So if you want to do that, R. Kelly, Diddy, whoever it may be, I'm not doing that with Zach Bryan on my Spotify as an example. But no, I'm not ever going to see him live. I'm not going to be in the audience like, oh, I love this song. You know, like I can't support you. And so that's my line. Yeah.

• 53:01Rayna Greenberg?

  And I hope that also like people will listen to her story and see themselves in it and say like, I've experienced this and you can't escape it. You can get away from it. You can be brave and heal from it. It's not your fault. And I think that like that is what it'll do for so many women, that they'll see themselves in these experiences. Cause I think a lot of men are like this. A lot of coercive control goes into relationships. And there's a power imbalance with fame and money and age. And all of that kind of comes into play and at least somebody will see themselves in. This and escape a bad situation. That's what I hope.

• 53:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. And I think she hopefully will thrive. And you know, who knows what being silenced would have done to her career wise, you know, like that shit could eat at you and like hinder you in so many other ways. You know what I mean? Like, who knows what that would have done if like having to hold that in and taking that money, you know, she might blow past that 12 million, whatever she would have made, you know what I mean? And that's, you know, the goal.

• 53:59Rayna Greenberg?

  I think that somebody that like slowly erodes your boundaries like this and makes you feel so powerless and you keep forgiving them, you keep trying to love them, you just, you feel like no self-worth at the end of the day. And like, this is where you take your power back. I mean, god damn, she left 12 million dollars on the table. It's, it's incredible.

• 54:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. So, you know, that's, that's the tea. I hope you guys enjoyed this episode. I hope you guys enjoy National Pickle Day. You can get that Dill Pickle Suck and Blow Gel at vibesonly.com. Limited, limited run. I meant to say that. So not a lot. Like, we didn't know how this was gonna go. So, very limited quantity. So, very

• 54:39Rayna Greenberg?

  Quanies, I like that.

• 54:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  I like

• 54:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Funny.

• 54:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  While supplies last.

• 54:45Rayna Greenberg?

  Quanies.

• 54:47Rayna Greenberg?

  It's so, I feel like Krista Stefano.

• 54:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  You said Jack Brian earlier, and we're leaving that.

• 54:50Rayna Greenberg?

  You said the Democrats twice last week. I was like, show, show correct yourself.

• 54:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  It was not twice, it was one.

• 54:55Rayna Greenberg?

  It was twice. Yeah, no, it was.

• 54:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  Run the tape.

• 54:57Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, well, we're on the tape.

• 54:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  I did not say the Democrats twice.

• 54:59Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, we'll go back.

• 55:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  You heard wrong. All right, Jack Brian. Okay, so you guys can find tickets to the remaining shows.

• 55:07Rayna Greenberg?

  The limited Quanies.

• 55:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  There's gonna be limited Quanies for the tickets at girlsgottaeat.com, Girl's Gotta Eat Podcast on Instagram and TikTok, reina.greenberg, Ash Hess on social media, YouTube. Again, subscribe, share this episode with a friend, leave a comment, let us know what you're thinking about the snack, and we will see you Monday.

• 55:25Rayna Greenberg?

  Have a good weekend, guys.

• 55:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  Bye.