TBT: Dani Williamson

Your favorite country kid holistic nurse practitioner, Dani Williamson, is back! In this episode, she dives into the connection between childhood trauma and autoimmune disease, explaining how conditions like Hashimoto’s and gut issues often stem from unresolved trauma. Dani also shares her common sense tips for radical healing, including the importance of gut health, removing gluten and dairy, managing stress, and balancing hormones. Dani and Bunnie also talk about the role of environmental toxins and how to reverse autoimmune diseases. Plus, Dani answers questions from Patreon listeners and introduces her new book Wild & Well, offering practical advice on how anyone can take charge of their health and start healing today. Watch Full Episodes & More: www.dumbblondeunrated.com Dani Williamson: Website https://daniwilliamson.com/wild/ | Wild & Well https://daniwilliamson.com/wild/

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:00Bunnie XO?

  Hey guys, I need to ask you a question. I want to know why in the hell are you not on Patreon? I don't think you guys even realize how much content we have on Patreon. Let me break it down for you. We have the Bunny XO Show, we have Meet the D-Fords, we have Popaganda, we have more shows that we're adding, and not to mention, we have the visuals of the podcast. Not only that, we have four tiers that caters to everybody's budget and everybody gets the podcast. There's no more excuses. Head over to www.patreon.com/dumblonddownblondpodcast and sign up. Stop missing out. We have built a huge community over there, guys. I'm talking about hundreds of thousands of people over there.

• 0:41Bunnie XO?

  We even have live chats, live chats that I actually am talking in every single night. Last but not least, we give away gifts every frickin' month. I'm talking like signed stuff from Jay and I lives. You just never know what kind of surprise you're gonna get. It's like a Cracker Jack box. I love the community that we've built over there at Patreon. If you are already a Patreon member, I freaking love you, dude. Thank you so much. You guys are my babies for life, my writers. If I could, I would literally make out with each and every one of you. I love you guys so much, and that's a lot of kisses, actually. Gotta go bye. Bunny XO. She was a Vegas girl. Bunny XO. She changed my life. Dumb Blonde Podcast and Bunny XO. Jelly Rolls like Bunny XO.

• 1:23Speaker 01

  Bunny XO. Talk to me about Bunny XO. Barney.

• 1:39Bunnie XO?

  Is this thing on? What's up, you sexy motherfuckers? Welcome to another episode of Dumb Blonde. Today, I have your, I have you guys' and my favorite holistic nurse practitioner, Ms. Dani Williamson in the house, baby.

• 1:56Speaker 02

  So glad to be here, so excited. It's long overdue.

• 2:00Bunnie XO?

  Dude, last episode we had went bonkers. Everybody is obsessed with you.

• 2:05Speaker 02

  Really?

• 2:05Bunnie XO?

  Oh yeah, they love you. They love you. They love your hair, they love your aura, they love your spirit, they love it all. Like, we, you are probably one of the most requested comeback guests that I have.

• 2:17Speaker 02

  I had no idea. Well, thank you. Well, you know, I'm a common sense, practical medicine country kid, right? From Gilbertsville, Kentucky, who just happens to have done pretty well.

• 2:27Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 2:28Speaker 02

  You know?

• 2:28Bunnie XO?

  I'm so proud of you.

• 2:29Speaker 02

  As a nurse practitioner, it's common sense, right?

• 2:31Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 2:31Speaker 02

  A lot of it is.

• 2:32Bunnie XO?

  Yes. I'm so proud of you. Um, if for those of you who want to know Dani's entire story, we did that the last time she was on the podcast. So you can go check out that episode. This episode is gonna, we're gonna really like dive into some things like a lot of you guys on my Patreon asked questions. I have questions for Dani. There's things Dani wants to talk about. So we're gonna talk about a lot of it. And Dani, you brought your book with you. Let's plug that really quick, too.

• 2:56Speaker 02

  Yes, yes.

• 2:57Bunnie XO?

  Wild and well. It's a great book.

• 3:00Speaker 02

  It is, isn't it? It's Common Sense Practical Medicine. I wrote it so that everyone from a country kid to a Harvard educated person could read it and say, whoa, whoa, if I was born healthy, I don't have to live sick and I can turn this around. And I am living proof after turning around 24 years of chronic lifestyle diseases that you can turn anything around.

• 3:22Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 3:23Speaker 02

  Right? It's very simple, but it's not easy, as you know.

• 3:27Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, you have to really want, like, I feel like a lot of people are like, I just want to feel better. I want to get better. But then when they're given the protocols, people don't want to put the work in. It's almost like they want their health to magically heal on their own without doing the work.

• 3:41Speaker 02

  That's exactly right. But because by nature, you know, we are pretty, we want things the easy way. Well, this is not easy. It's not easy. It's real simple, though. Garbage in equals garbage out, right?

• 3:54Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 3:54Speaker 02

  For me, you have to heal the gut. You have to eat well, sleep well, move well, poop well, de-stress well, you need to commune well. But for me, after seeing doctors for 24 years, I also had to address the childhood trauma. And most of my patients do. And actually, my patients' healing has gone through the roof. Once, I learned about childhood trauma. Well, you and I've talked about this for hours. And when, the body definitely keeps score. And for me, it manifested itself in the gut. Many of my patients, though, it manifests itself in the thyroid. Because this is your fifth chakra here. This is your voice.

• 4:37Speaker 02

  And many of these women, mainly I see women, many of these women who had childhood trauma, they lose their voice, or they feel like they don't have a voice. So they have thyroid issues, thyroid cancer, thyroid nodules, Hashimoto's thyroiditis. And this is your voice. And once we get their voice back, and we get their thyroid working better, and we address the trauma, it's amazing to watch these patients' lives just blossom.

• 5:02Bunnie XO?

  Mimi was actually just diagnosed with Hashimoto's.

• 5:05Speaker 02

  Mimi? Really?

• 5:08Bunnie XO?

  Where's the microphone?

• 5:09Speaker 02

  That's my focus, that's what I do.

• 5:11Bunnie XO?

  Where's your microphone, Mimi?

• 5:12Speaker 02

  Yeah. It's the number, Hashimoto's thyroiditis is the number one undiagnosed autoimmune disease in the United States. Because it is an autoimmune disease, right? It's an autoimmune disease of the thyroid. And I don't have Hashimoto's. My trauma, my childhood trauma manifested itself in irritable bowel syndrome.

• 5:30Bunnie XO?

  I think that's my problem, which we'll talk about. But I definitely want to get into the Hashimoto's thing.

• 5:35Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 5:35Bunnie XO?

  Mimi, if you have any questions for her. But I do know that like, online, a lot of people are being diagnosed with this. And I never even knew about it. So I want you to kind of dive in about Hashimoto's, but also about the link from childhood trauma into autoimmune disease. Can we start there?

• 5:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, absolutely. So we know that there's a huge link between childhood trauma and autoimmune disease. And I think, I don't remember the statistics off the top of my head on autoimmune disease with it. But if you have a childhood, an ACE, an adverse childhood experience score of four or more, you have a 1,200% more, greater likelihood of dying by suicide.

• 6:20Bunnie XO?

  What, um, yeah, what test is this?

• 6:23Speaker 02

  That's the ACE questionnaire, the Adverse Childhood Experience questionnaire, the 10-question test that we did on the very first visit with you. And it talks about trauma, talks about physical abuse, mental abuse, abandonment. It's 10 questions, not perfect, developed by the CDC and Kaiser Permanente out in California.

• 6:44Speaker 02

  And addressing what happens to you before the first 18 years.

• 6:49Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 6:49Speaker 02

  So we know that what happens to you before the first 18 years of life can set you up for a lifetime of chronic disease and autoimmune disease and

• 6:59Bunnie XO?

  And you set a score

• 7:00Speaker 02

  Drug addiction.

• 7:01Bunnie XO?

  And you set a score of how much or higher?

• 7:03Speaker 02

  Four or higher sets you up for 1,200% higher rate of suicide, 390% rate of higher rate of pulmonary lung disease, 200 to 400% higher rate of drug use. It's it's greater than six, which I'm a six, you have a decreased lifespan by 20 years.

• 7:23Bunnie XO?

  Oh, my God.

• 7:23Speaker 02

  And the list goes on and on and on. And it's not a perfect test. And it's in the book, like I have it in the book, but you can also get it online for free. It's a good starting point for your childhood because I spent 24 years seeing doctors. I know you've spent years seeing doctors. No one ever asked me, Dani, what happened to you before the age of 18? It's not normal to poop your pants every time you eat almost. To have to know where the bathroom is at every, every restaurant that you go to. That's not normal. Something's going on. And, and again, you know, I grew up with a child molester for a stepfather, one that beat me up. My mother was mentally ill. My grandfather died by suicide. That's not uncommon.

• 8:08Speaker 02

  I mean, we know that 67 to 75% of the population have this kind of childhood trauma.

• 8:15Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. I mean, I feel like everybody has some sort of childhood trauma, even if you had the quote unquote, perfect

• 8:21Speaker 02

  It's very rare that I get someone come in the office and they say, oh, yeah, my childhood was phenomenal. Dani, I'm just here, just check my labs. I feel great or whatever. I mean, very rare do I have someone who said, yeah, I had the Mayberry childhood. Very rare.

• 8:35Bunnie XO?

  So childhood trauma manifests into autoimmune disorder, well, manifests into tons of things in your body.

• 8:41Speaker 02

  Things.

• 8:41Bunnie XO?

  I, everybody on the podcast knows, have a problem with pooping. I cannot poop to save my life.

• 8:47Speaker 02

  So you're went the opposite way, right? You didn't open up like I did, like chronic diarrhea. You clamped down.

• 8:55Bunnie XO?

  Mm hmm.

• 8:56Speaker 02

  Constipation.

• 8:57Bunnie XO?

  My butthole puckered.

• 8:58Speaker 02

  Your butthole puckered because you never knew.

• 9:03Bunnie XO?

  I love that.

• 9:04Speaker 02

  I'm sure my nurse practitioner school is like, oh my Lord Danny, this is not medical. But your butthole puckered, whereas mine opened up, right? I mean, and, and because you never knew when the trauma was going to happen, right? And you hold on, you hold on to that. And it's fascinating. And I went to onsite, you know, I went to onsite for a week and spent a week at onsite doing intense trauma therapy. And that took my healing to a whole nother level. But again, everyone manifests their trauma into something different. But the thyroid is a huge one for women, huge for women.

• 9:41Bunnie XO?

  And that is Hashimoto's, right?

• 9:43Speaker 02

  Hashimoto's thyroiditis. And women have autoimmune disease eight to 10 times more than men do. Eight to 10 times.

• 9:51Bunnie XO?

  That's crazy.

• 9:51Speaker 02

  Now, we are also the most toxic, right? The lotion, the makeup, the hair color, the tampons. Tampons are a huge problem for women and, and.

• 10:02Bunnie XO?

  We've been screaming this and now it's finally viral on TikTok that they have lead in the tampons.

• 10:07Speaker 02

  Yes, with the lead in it and heavy metals in it. And we've been talking about this for years.

• 10:11Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 10:12Speaker 02

  You and I have. And, and I didn't know that. I put Roundup and bleach in my vagina for 35 years. I had no idea. I have a great education.

• 10:19Bunnie XO?

  I wear diapers now.

• 10:21Speaker 02

  Hmm?

• 10:21Bunnie XO?

  I wear diapers now.

• 10:22Speaker 02

  I have another patient who wears diapers as well.

• 10:26Bunnie XO?

  I love it. I will fucking diaper it up no matter fucking how heavy I am. You can wear, like, you know how the pad, you used to go through pads? And I would go through, because I'm heavy, I would go through multiple, multiple pads. Diapers, I literally, literally go through like maybe three my entire period.

• 10:44Speaker 02

  Are you serious?

• 10:45Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 10:46Speaker 02

  Well, I never got an opportunity to try the diaper situation. And I also never got an opportunity to use a menstrual cup.

• 10:52Bunnie XO?

  I, no, those always freaked me out because anything that goes inside of me hurts me. So I've never was brave enough to do it. Tampons even hurt me.

• 11:01Speaker 02

  Really?

• 11:01Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 11:01Speaker 02

  Well, tampon, tampons, I can see why, because again, we know toxic, or cotton's one of the most toxic crops in the United States. It has more glyphosate sprayed on it than pretty much any other crop. And then they. Take that Roundup ready cotton you're getting ready to put in your vagina for decade after decade. And they bleach it with Clorox bleach. Clorox bleach and Roundup in your vagina. And you wonder why you have heavy periods and cramping and clotting and PCOS and endometriosis and just can't get out of the bed. So, so a cup, a menstrual cup, my patients swear by a menstrual cup. I never got to use it. I don't know. I think it takes a minute to get it right. But again, autoimmune disease in women is a, it's a, a toxic burden.

• 11:44Speaker 02

  And I tell women this, I wasn't born with lupus, which I have. I wasn't born with fibromyalgia. Say you had MS or you know, you weren't born with MS or you weren't born with rheumatoid arthritis. We turn that on, turn that on. And that through decades of dysfunction, most people do. Now there's genetic component to it, right? But as a rule, it's allostatic load. And just like with Mimi, I don't know the reason for the Hashimoto's. But you know, there's probably decades of stress and maybe bad food. I don't know. Perfume, makeup, all the things you put in your thyroid. Look what you do for a living, right? We're breathing in this nose or through the nose. Here's the nose, here's the thyroid. There's a proximity issue to these chemicals as well.

• 12:29Speaker 02

  And so it's, it's like the straw that broke the camel's back. It just builds up, builds up. It's, it's, it's, I tell patients, it's not the one time you drive through Chick-fil-A and eat a chicken sandwich, right? It's the decades of driving through fast food or you know, chronic stress. And then it builds up and boom, it tips over. And it's like herding cats trying to get them all back in, trying to get it all back together. And, and it's difficult. I know. I spent 24 years seeing doctors, 10 doctors. Before a doctor looked at me and said, what are you eating? You know, and.

• 13:04Bunnie XO?

  Is there a way to reverse Hashimoto's? Cause I've been, I've been studying for Mimi to try to uh, figure out like a, something we could do, but I wanted to wait.

• 13:13Speaker 02

  This is my specialty.

• 13:15Bunnie XO?

  What was the first thing I told you?

• 13:16Speaker 03

  Yeah. She goes, you're just going to see Danny.

• 13:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, like we reverse it every month in the office.

• 13:24Speaker 02

  And I get patients who come in who their endocrinologists tell them, oh, there's nothing you can do about it. We don't ever need to check your thyroid antibodies again. You're never going to be able to lower those antibodies. So what happens with Hashimoto's thyroiditis, you have these thyroid antibodies that quote unquote, it's attacking the thyroid, right? Like with me with lupus, it attacks my joints. And so, but it's really not attacking it, but it's an inflammatory response. Hashimoto's thyroiditis, vasculitis, thyroiditis, gastritis, colitis, itis means inflammation. So it's an inflammatory response where the thyroid is inflamed, right? Not the prostate, not the joints, it's the thyroid that's inflamed.

• 14:09Speaker 02

  So you cool it down, just like you do any other autoimmune disease, right? And yes, you can reverse it. Yes, you can bring those antibodies down. What's the number one trigger for, for Hashimoto's? Food wise, number one trigger for Hashimoto's to, to raise those antibodies up? Gut health? Well, gluten, gluten, number one food. Yes. Well, your gut health, yes. Gluten is the number one inflammatory agent for Hashimoto's thyroiditis. I feel like gluten is- Gluten cross reacts with those thyroid antibodies, creating an inflammatory response in that thyroid. So the first thing that you do as a patient of mine, in any book you read on Hashimoto's, you cut gluten out immediately. And your doctors will say, there's

• 14:52Speaker 02

  no research on that. That's bullshit. There are decades of research, Mimi, on gluten and thyroid and dairy and thyroid. Gluten and dairy. Yeah. I ask my patients to go gluten and dairy free, to start bringing down the inflammatory response in the thyroid. And we watch those thyroglobulin antibodies come down and those thyroid peroxidase antibodies come down. So your people who are listening, if they're just getting a TSH checked, a thyroid stimulating hormone checked, they, they need a new provider because that's only like one fifth of the labs that you need checked to check your thyroid properly. Oh. TSH.

• 15:34Speaker 02

  Free T3, free T4, which we check on you all the time, right?

• 15:39Bunnie XO?

  Those are my favorite.

• 15:40Speaker 02

  Thyroid hormones that are circulating around, they're active. And then your thyroid proxidase antibodies and your thyroglobulin antibodies. Not everybody has both of those positive for Hashimoto's. But 90% of the people who have Hashimoto's have a positive thyroid proxidase antibody.

• 16:00Bunnie XO?

  Wow. So I have a question. Mimi has no tonsils and she has had strep throat probably six times this year. And is that caused from the Hashimoto's?

• 16:11Speaker 02

  No, that's a, that's a strep infection going on in you, some sort of chronic strep infection.

• 16:17Speaker 03

  Yeah, I have no tonsils, haven't had them in years. Six times in a year I have now gotten strep. So I'm just like, I literally feel like I'm living on antibiotics.

• 16:26Speaker 02

  Right.

• 16:27Bunnie XO?

  Which is so bad for your gut.

• 16:28Speaker 02

  Which is absolutely not destroying the gut, but creating even more of a leaky gut.

• 16:34Speaker 03

  And I wondered if, if that caused an issue with the thyroid because I'm on so many antibiotics.

• 16:39Speaker 02

  Well, it could, it could because it's an inflammatory response, just like childbirth. So a lot of women who, who deliver babies, they've, they weren't, they didn't have Hashimoto's before. But after childbirth, it's called postpartum thyroiditis. So they have thyroid antibodies present then afterwards, sometimes up to 18 months after we'll have positive antibodies. So you had some sort of trauma and that very well could be what did that.

• 17:06Bunnie XO?

  She has a three year old.

• 17:07Speaker 02

  The problem is, we don't know, did you have Hashimoto's before? So did anybody check your labs? And this is where, this is where we have a, we have a disconnect in the medical field. We don't check thyroid antibodies, you know this, I check a lot of labs. And, and either rule in or rule out Hashimoto's thyroiditis when you walk through that door. Do you have it or you don't?

• 17:30Speaker 03

  I was checked right before my daughter was born and I was put on levithroxine because they said I had hypothyroidism during the infertility treatments. And they were like, maybe that's causing infertility problems. So I was put on the levithroxine right before my daughter. And then they took me off of it while I was pregnant. And then went out, after I had her, my levels. Equaled out and they're like, we don't feel like you should be put back on it.

• 17:53Speaker 02

  Okay, but you were hypothyroid, which is completely different than Hashimoto's thyroiditis.

• 18:00Speaker 03

  What's the difference?

• 18:01Speaker 02

  Different disease processes, not disease, but hypothyroidism is hypothyroid, a sluggish thyroid, right? Your thyroid stimulating hormone is rising, you're not making enough thyroid hormone, so it keeps prompting up, popping up. The thyroid stimulating hormone, so you have a high TSH, that's hypothyroid. Hashimoto's thyroiditis is a completely different thing. You can be hypothyroid for decades and never have Hashimoto's. Never, never. But you can also have Hashimoto's thyroiditis and never be hypothyroid. So I have a whole group of patients who have Hashimoto's, but their thyroid works fantastic. They're not hypothyroid, they don't need to be on medication, on thyroid hormone, levothyroxine,

• 18:46Speaker 02

  which this is something else your, your tribe needs to know. If you're taking generic thyroid medicine,

• 18:54Speaker 02

  that's the one, there are three medications I would never use generic, thyroid medicine, seizure medication, and blood thinner. Those, those medications need to be spot on every single month to keep your levels, your blood levels normal. So I don't prescribe generic thyroid medicine. Were you on Synthroid or generic levothyroxine?

• 19:15Speaker 03

  Just the levothyroxine, just, that's all it is.

• 19:19Bunnie XO?

  Just sounds like, I feel like Western medicine just throws a pill at everything.

• 19:24Speaker 02

  Everything.

• 19:24Bunnie XO?

  Like literally, you could be like, I have a headache, they're like, take a pill. And my husband is like that. If somebody, if a doctor prescribes him something, he's like, I'm gonna take it. And I'm like, no you're not. I'm like, there's a way that we can fix this. And now he's gotten so much better because he's just so used to me being his wife. But like, even the other day, he was, they prescribed him a Valium and I had him all freaked out. I'm like, where did you get the Valium? What pharmacy was it filled at? Is it in a pill bottle? Like, I just freak out. Well, he needed it to travel on the plane.

• 19:51Speaker 02

  Right.

• 19:52Bunnie XO?

  Because he was so tired from, uh, in between shows. And he was like, I found myself getting freaked out and I was just, he goes, I got mad because I was like, stop rubbing off on me, you know?

• 20:01Speaker 02

  But you should, because you know, that's a big deal. And you know, we hand out benzodiazepines like crazy.

• 20:07Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 20:08Speaker 02

  And I don't, I had a, I had someone call me last week wanting me to prescribe. Anti-anxiety meds. And I said, you know, I stopped it 10 years ago.

• 20:15Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 20:15Speaker 02

  Not doing it. I'm not doing it. There are plenty of people out there to write those prescriptions now. And sometimes people need an anti-anxiety. I'm not saying never, but I I'm not writing another Xanax again as long as I live. I'm not going to because I've had too many patients not be able to get off of them. And you were hardcore. It's miracle. You didn't end up, you know.

• 20:35Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, no. Getting off Xanax was probably one of the hardest things I've ever done.

• 20:40Speaker 02

  Absolutely.

• 20:41Bunnie XO?

  That and to stop drinking cold turkey was really hard too. But yeah, Xanax, uh, I have, I'm missing a big chunk of my twenties because I took so much Xanax. Like there's things I don't remember. My long-term memory is like shot from how much Xanax I used to take. And let me tell you, it, you don't have a care in the world, but you do other weird shit. So for what it fucking like, it made me a klepto. I loved to steal when I was on Xanax. Boy, let me tell you, if I walked in a store, something was getting stolen. Like it just, it, so for every ailment that it was supposed to cover, it gave you other things that were like just out of this world weird.

• 21:19Speaker 02

  Oh, there's no telling what I would have done then, because I got thrown in jail for stealing. I got thrown in jail for stealing. I was 18 years old. Freshman year in college. Oh, this is gonna be terrible. Freshman year in college. Yes, I sure did. And, and you know what I said? Walmart, don't mess with Walmart. They will.

• 21:35Bunnie XO?

  I got caught at Target.

• 21:37Speaker 02

  They will nail your ass to the wall at Walmart. Walmart, 69 cents, spool of thread. I stole. Spool of thread. I was a fashion design major in college. So my first 20 years was all in merchandising. And I stole 69 cents. My, and my roommate did too, or she stole something else, a pattern. But anyway, they hauled our ass to jail in Bowling Green, Kentucky, strip searched us, put us in jail. My mother didn't come pick me up because we know her history. And so, uh, when I called her, my roommate's mother had already, or my roommate had already called her mother. I called my mom. Carolyn answered the phone and she goes, you thief. Boom. And hung that phone up and never showed up. Never showed up. He came and got, her dad came and got us out. And, um, yeah, no. So I can't imagine.

• 22:22Speaker 02

  Imagine what it, yes, that was eighteen, had just turned eighteen. Oh, my gosh. Can you imagine? I was put on probation for three years in college, three years.

• 22:32Speaker 02

  I wouldn't eat a grape off the dang, uh, you know, produce thing, you know, testing out the.

• 22:38Bunnie XO?

  That's like, my friend actually cut a tag off of her mattress and ended up going to jail for that.

• 22:45Speaker 02

  What?

• 22:45Bunnie XO?

  You know how it says.

• 22:46Speaker 02

  Don't take it off.

• 22:47Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, she ended up going to jail for that. I thought that was a joke. Like, if you cut your, you can really be prosecuted if you cut that tag off of mattresses. Why the fuck is that tag even on there?

• 22:58Speaker 02

  I had no idea. I learned something new.

• 23:00Bunnie XO?

  Why is that tag even on there? Every, I have a weird OCD thing with tags. I can't have tags on anything, so I cut it off of everything. But yeah, my girlfriend, April, poor, poor baby, ended up going to jail for cutting a tag off of a mattress.

• 23:13Speaker 02

  Oh, we've got bigger problems in this world to deal with than cutting off your mattress tag, right? But anyway, talk, going back to, to, people don't need to know I ended up in jail, but I did. And Ella used to say.

• 23:25Bunnie XO?

  A little bit of an edge. It makes you more relatable.

• 23:28Speaker 02

  Inopportune times, my daughter would go, Mama, tell us about that time you got thrown in jail. I mean, it would be like wherever, out in public, and I'm like, you know. But, so, and I was stone cold sober, not on Xanax, so I can't imagine have I, if I had been on, you know, taking Xanax, but it, we treat, we treat symptoms. And that's how I was taught in school, and that's how all of your medical doctors are taught, and your nurse practitioners and your PA, because we don't understand root cause. And my, like, my son is fourth year medical school right now, fourth year, just started his fourth year. Which means he's gonna be out, hopefully, you know, in four more years. He's not taught root cause medicine.

• 24:10Speaker 02

  Now, he knows, because he's grown up with a mom, that there's a root cause for Bunny's constipation. There's a root cause thyroiditis, there's a root cause for her heartburn, right?

• 24:24Speaker 02

  People aren't born with heartburn. What's going on? And so that's what we have to do. We have to get better about that in allopathic medicine and ask those questions, right? So what happened to your childhood? Or, you know, what are you eating? Your diet will heal you or kill you. It is as simple as that and you are good at your diet. You are true to the course.

• 24:45Bunnie XO?

  Well, that leads me into my next question that I have for you because you know how crazy I am with my diet. I don't do, I do no sugar. I do do a little gluten, but I get it through sourdough because that's the only bread I'll eat. But it's a special sourdough that I order and it's like, I am so diligent in my frickin diet, but my blood sugar is still wonky. So I had my, I had Gary Brekka's team do some of my blood work earlier this year, before you did mine. And they came back and told me like, hey, you need to stop intermittent fasting. You're almost making yourself hypoglycemic because of how, which is crazy because I feel so much better when I intermittent fast. But then every time I go and get my blood checked, people tell me my blood sugar is high.

• 25:30Bunnie XO?

  So how am I hypoglycemic if I have high blood sugar?

• 25:35Bunnie XO?

  Both my parents are, both my parents are diabetic, by the way.

• 25:38Speaker 02

  Okay, so type two diabetics, not type one, they're not on, they weren't on insulin, were they?

• 25:43Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, no, my mom was.

• 25:44Speaker 02

  Your mom was an insulin dependent diabetic.

• 25:46Bunnie XO?

  Yep. I don't know, I think my dad was too.

• 25:49Speaker 02

  Okay. So we want to pay close attention to that, but I would, if I were you, I would get a, I can give you a blood glucose monitor, you know, checking. So what you're doing is you're getting just a snapshot, one shot, when you draw your blood. If you did a glucose monitor, a continuous glucose monitor, we would know 24/7, every day, every minute, what's going on with your blood sugar. And then you would know, oh gosh, when I'm intermittent fasting for 14 hours, yeah, I'm dropping or I'm spiking or whatever.

• 26:21Bunnie XO?

  I think I have what's called the dawn phenomenon. So my blood sugar is always high in the morning, no matter what I do. I could fucking eat perfectly the night before and I still have high blood sugar in the morning.

• 26:32Speaker 02

  Okay, that is the dawn phenomenon. Yes. And so most people don't eat enough protein during the day.

• 26:38Bunnie XO?

  I eat 135 milligrams a day.

• 26:41Speaker 02

  Grams.

• 26:42Bunnie XO?

  135 milligrams or 135 grams. Yes, grams. Yeah, sorry. She said grams, bitch, grams.

• 26:50Bunnie XO?

  Yes, grams.

• 26:50Speaker 02

  Grams. And so that's good because a hundred, yeah, that's, that's really good. So you're getting, um, are you eating breakfast? Are you eating most of that?

• 26:59Bunnie XO?

  I ate breakfast, lunch, dinner. I think the, the only thing I, you know me, I'm always trying to figure it out. I am high protein, high carb, low fat. So I'm thinking that me being high carb is what's triggering it.

• 27:12Speaker 02

  Probably, probably.

• 27:13Bunnie XO?

  That segues into my next thing about, what is it called? Tri, tri-epidite? I'm thinking about doing tri-epidite because I want to lose a couple of pounds, but I also want to regulate my blood sugar. How do you feel about semi-glutide, tri-epidite and all that stuff?

• 27:29Speaker 02

  On the spot.

• 27:32Speaker 02

  All right. I didn't, um, I think there's a place for it. Absolutely, there's a place for it and it has changed many of my patients' lives.

• 27:41Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 27:41Speaker 02

  I'm not prescribing it. I'm doing a tiny bit through a compounding pharmacy here for a few people that's sublingual. So it's under the tongue. It's not an injection.

• 27:50Bunnie XO?

  I want to microdose it. I don't want to do.

• 27:52Speaker 02

  Well, it's microdosing it. So I just barely started it and it's been several years, right? That this has been popular because I really feel like you need to know exactly what you're doing and I didn't have time. Honestly, my mom is dying and all, but no. My gynecologist, I went in there the other day to see her. She looks unbelievable and she told me, she said, we're doing tri-epidite.

• 28:12Bunnie XO?

  Tri-epidite.

• 28:13Speaker 02

  Tri-epidite. I just, um, tri-epidite, Dani. And she said, I would highly recommend you get into it. And I said, okay. So she was telling me that, you know, all the benefits and how her patients, not everyone, not everyone's a candidate for it.

• 28:26Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 28:27Speaker 02

  But the blood sugar regulation benefits of that. Now, do we have long-term studies on all of this to see? No, we don't.

• 28:38Bunnie XO?

  No. And that's what scares me because I've been doing a ton of research.

• 28:41Speaker 02

  Which is why I haven't done it yet with patients.

• 28:44Bunnie XO?

  I know. I'm waiting for you to hop on the horn.

• 28:46Speaker 02

  I know. I know. But then I'd, yes, yes. But I think that that's, that's a really great one. I mean, I've got patients on. I mean, they're on everything from metformin to Wegovy to the one that right now that.

• 28:59Bunnie XO?

  I've read so many bad things about metformin and the side effects.

• 29:03Speaker 03

  I was on it for a long.

• 29:04Bunnie XO?

  Were you?

• 29:05Speaker 03

  I mean, not even, I can't, you know, I take that back. It wasn't long, long because I couldn't handle it. I literally had to come to my doctor and said, you're killing me.

• 29:13Speaker 02

  Diarrhea? Was it diarrhea?

• 29:14Speaker 03

  I mean, everything. It was coming out of every hole. I was like literally becoming, I was becoming like to the point that like I made myself sick because I couldn't even drink a glass of water without it just coming somewhere.

• 29:27Speaker 02

  Oh, gosh.

• 29:28Speaker 03

  So they were like, okay, well, we'll try you on the slow release. Okay, now take it at this time. Now try this. We'll put you on the lowest. I was on the lowest dose on the like slow release of it. It still could not keep anything within my body.

• 29:41Speaker 02

  Then it's not your thing.

• 29:42Speaker 03

  Exactly. And so I hadn't been on anything until recently. I did go on trisepotide and I can handle it. I can fully handle it.

• 29:51Speaker 02

  I hear great things about trisepotide. I do.

• 29:55Bunnie XO?

  Do you know the difference between, what's the difference between semaglutide, Ozempic and trisepotide? Isn't it all the same thing?

• 30:01Speaker 03

  Semaglutide is Ozempic.

• 30:02Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 30:02Speaker 03

  Monjaro is trisepotide.

• 30:04Bunnie XO?

  Okay, gotcha.

• 30:05Speaker 03

  So it's the hormone receptors, it's what it's blocking. So that's why they're using trisepotide for addicts because it blocks two hormone receptors versus the semaglutide only stops one of them.

• 30:16Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 30:16Speaker 03

  So like people who are addicted to, you know, they put them on the Suboxone a lot of the times.

• 30:22Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 30:22Speaker 03

  Instead of Suboxone, they're trying the trisepotide because it does, and I will be honest, I was on the semaglutide to begin with. I could still feel some of my food noise. Trisepotide, zero.

• 30:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, I have a patient who's, who went out to LA and is on, in Monjaro, the same thing. And she said it cha, it completely took away the food noise in her and she, I didn't think she needed to lose any weight anyway. She looks fantastic. And she said, you know, she'll start weaning off of it now. But here's where I, here's where I'm still skeptical on so many, so much of this is you have to change the root cause to whatever's going. On with you. Once we stop this, right? Or your portion, where your portion size is too big. Were you eating too many carbs, right? Were you not eating enough protein? Were you not exercising? Was your stress level through the roof, right? Are you not sleeping at night?

• 31:17Speaker 02

  I mean, I think sleeping is almost equally as important as your diet. You know, are you eating real food? Are you still driving through, you know, fast food and you're getting your food out of somebody's window? Well, that's not real food. So we have to change all the emotional things that go on around food. Once we stop this, once you stop your GLP one, whatever it is you're taking. And, and I don't know that everyone's doing that.

• 31:45Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 31:45Speaker 02

  So I'm worried about people losing a tremendous amount of weight, which you don't have a tremendous amount of weight to lose. You don't have a tremendous amount of weight to lose. But then gaining more weight back.

• 31:54Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 31:55Speaker 02

  Because you didn't fix the root cause.

• 31:58Bunnie XO?

  Well, I do all of those.

• 31:59Speaker 02

  Yes, you do.

• 32:00Bunnie XO?

  Um, but my thing is, is I want, I want to lose about five to 10 pounds. But I also want to, I feel like I've hit a plateau. I'm sitting at in between 155 and 160, and I've been here since January. That wild yam cream.

• 32:14Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 32:14Bunnie XO?

  Everybody has all of these great reviews about wild yam cream. That shit fucked me up. You know, I'm always going to be honest about it. It did not do good for me. Like it literally, it made me feel terrible. And it also made me like, um, now that I've gotten off of it, I've been off of it probably about three months. I am the skinniest and tightest on my period. And anytime, and it was the minute I'm off my period, I'm swollen, I feel inflamed, like I hate it. It like has made me reverse. Uh, it's so crazy.

• 32:44Speaker 03

  That's wild. That happens to me.

• 32:46Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 32:46Speaker 03

  I feel my skinniest, like the day before I start my period.

• 32:49Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. I'll drop down to like 155, 156, right before my period. And I'll, I'll weigh that all through my period, which is unheard of for me. Normally I gain like five pounds on my period. And then as soon as it comes off, I go up five pounds as soon as my period's over with. Anywhere from like three to five pounds. Like it, that stuff really sent my hormones for a loop.

• 33:09Speaker 02

  It did, didn't it?

• 33:10Bunnie XO?

  My body is so opposite.

• 33:11Speaker 02

  It is because progesterone is the. Calming hormone. It is the, the first hormone that starts to drop in your body in your thirties. Actually in your mid thirties. And so it's the first, it's the, it's the one that keeps a baby in the womb. It's the one that keeps you calm and helps you sleep at night. It was, it's a game changer for most people.

• 33:30Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 33:30Speaker 02

  But not everyone, and this is why you have to have personalized medicine, right? Not everybody gets the same treatment, but for you, it wasn't a good thing. And that doesn't mean that maybe later it wouldn't be.

• 33:40Bunnie XO?

  Oh, no, like when I'm going through menopause.

• 33:41Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. When you're old lady like me.

• 33:43Bunnie XO?

  Let's talk about.

• 33:44Speaker 02

  Progesterone is my favorite, man. I love it. I take it every night, a hundred milligrams, man. Give it, no, a hundred and thirty. We're up to a hundred and thirty now.

• 33:52Bunnie XO?

  Let's talk about menopause because I feel like so many people do not want to touch the menopause subject. And, you know, for the longest time, I was always like, oh, my God, like dreaded menopause. And now I'm actually kind of like, I can't wait, dude. Like, I am so tired of having periods. Um, let's talk about perimenopause, menopause and post-menopause. So perimenopause usually starts in between what ages?

• 34:14Speaker 02

  Thirties, thirties, mid thirties ish, somewhere right around there. And women don't even notice it. I didn't notice it. Did you notice it in your thirties?

• 34:21Bunnie XO?

  Uh-uh.

• 34:22Speaker 02

  No, but some women do, but it, it's the first hormone that starts to drop, the progesterone does, you know? And some people get a little more emotional, maybe before their period or their periods get a little erratic in, in the thirties. And then in the forties, most women do start to notice something at forty-four is when I was like, gosh, this is weird. But I always had really regular periods. It is, it's, it's just a hormonal fluctuation. And, you know, a lot of women have babies in their late thirties and early forties. And think about that. Out with the baby goes what little bit of progesterone they had left. You know, once they have this baby, oftentimes we have to supplement progesterone during pregnancy for these women.

• 35:02Speaker 02

  Because it is a, the hormone that helps keep the baby in the womb and, but it's the calming one. It's the one that balances breast tenderness, helps you sleep at night, helps you poop, all those things. Progesterone's calming. And that's perimenopause. And it's, it can be a little erratic, those seasons. And then here we are raising teenagers.

• 35:21Bunnie XO?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 35:22Speaker 02

  And all the things while we're perimenopausal, right? And your hormones are doing this and their hormones are doing this, especially if it's girls and nobody's getting along at all in there.

• 35:30Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 35:31Speaker 02

  Um, at the house. And menopause, oh, my gosh. And I'll be fifty-nine. It is, and I tell women this every day and they look at me so mad and so angry. Um, they're hot flashing, their vagina's drying up, it's like rice paper. They don't want. Damn. Well, it gets. The visual. Yeah, yeah. And it hurts. It's like glass, they tell me, and they bleed a little bit with sex. And, you know, the hot flashes and the, you know, it's when osteoporosis, you know, gets diagnosed. It starts decades before. But when we, before we get into all the symptoms of menopause, always remember, it is an honor and it is a privilege and it is a rite of passage denied by many women.

• 36:17Speaker 02

  Always remember that, that it is, many women never live this long to get through menopause. We all have friends who've died before they ever hit menopause. It doesn't mean it's fun. It doesn't mean it's always enjoyable, but it is an honor to go through. And once you get to the other side, it is freedom like you have never seen. And you do have to keep your hormones balanced, right? Or you will have, you know, rice paper vaginas that just shred apart. And, you know, and, and you hear it, you listen to the women, you know, they don't want sex. Their libido goes down. Well, that starts, that could start anytime. I have 25 year olds who have no sex drive that are married, you know? And that's a whole nother topic we could talk about. Yeah.

• 36:58Speaker 02

  Why that is. But menopause, if it's balanced properly, if you're done. What I have found is that women who have the worst time going through menopause are the ones who have the most inflammation in their body. Because inflammation is the root of every single bit of these chronic diseases. Menopause is not a disease, but it, it, it's going to be exacerbated the more inflamed you are. Right? The worse your gut is, the more you're not sleeping, the more you're, you know, your job is killing you and your kids are killing you and you, you can't poop and all those things. When you start getting those things in order, those balls in order, your menopause symptoms level out. But you also have to have a healthcare provider who understands hormones. Then you get into, Bunny, you get into.

• 37:44Speaker 02

  I'm scared. I don't want, my doctor says I can't take hormones. I should never take hormones. Bio-identical hormones cause cancer. Well, show me that research. I wanna see, I wanna see the studies that say, cause I have studies as big as this book right here that show bio-identical hormones do not cause research, or cause cancer. Now, there are hormone-based cancers, absolutely. But if bio-identical hormones cause cancer, then all the women who have hormones in their body would all have cancer.

• 38:15Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 38:16Speaker 02

  The Baileys, right? My daughter Ella, you know, um, our 25-year-olds, our 30-year-olds, our 35-year-olds. They're not the ones who get cancer. Who gets cancer? Women my age with no hormones in their body.

• 38:29Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 38:30Speaker 02

  That's who gets cancer. So if they're balanced properly, and if the inflammation is, is, is down in your body, um, I believe bio-identical hormones are an unbelievable thing to transition. I just don't think we're designed to shrivel up and dry up.

• 38:46Bunnie XO?

  No.

• 38:46Speaker 02

  Right?

• 38:47Bunnie XO?

  I wanna be juicy forever.

• 38:48Speaker 02

  You bet. And so think about Bailey and think about my daughter Ella and, you know, those girls, their brains are on fire. Now, they may be, you know, kooky and crazy right now, but you know what I mean? Their, their hormones are firing, their brains are firing on all cylinders. It's estrogen that keeps your boobs up to here, right? Your skin up to here. Your brains and your bones strong, right? And, and I don't think we have to be like we're 20 years old anymore, but I definitely want my hormones balanced so that I'm not hot flashing. Hot flashes are horrible. Have you ever had a hot flash?

• 39:21Bunnie XO?

  I have panic attacks and I get really hot when I have panic attacks. So if that's what hot flashes feel like, I don't want it.

• 39:27Speaker 02

  It is. And it is, it is no fun. I can tell you that. And when your hormones are balanced.

• 39:32Bunnie XO?

  And then I think that's when the wild yam cream will come in to play for me.

• 39:36Speaker 02

  Absolutely. And maybe you don't even need the wild, and maybe, maybe you need something different. Maybe you need Chasteberry, Vitex. I don't know. You know, there's many things that we can do to get you through perimenopause, menopause, post-menopausal, herbal-wise, you know, there's tons of herbs out there that we can use. And then we get into the bio-identical hormones.

• 39:56Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 39:56Speaker 02

  And you find a provider who's going to help you do that. If you have a healthcare provider who says, "No, I'm not prescribing you hormones," then find a new provider. You know, you've got a family history of cancer. That's right. Yeah, got a family history of cancer. But I don't have to be my genetics.

• 40:15Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 40:15Speaker 02

  Right? So, and they say the genetics pulls the, or loads the gun, but your environment pulls the trigger. So, I will die with my bioidentical hormones held in my hands as tight as anything. Dani Williamson will go to her grave with her estrogen, progesterone, testosterone, and pregnenolone, which is the happiness hormone. I will take them until I'm done.

• 40:38Bunnie XO?

  Does it, does it take a long time to get adjusted to them?

• 40:40Speaker 02

  Well, it didn't for me, although I've had a little blip lately and had to have a biopsy and all this, some post-menopausal bleeding. I think, I don't know if you saw or not.

• 40:50Bunnie XO?

  I did, I saw it online.

• 40:51Speaker 02

  And then I had to have a biopsy last week because I had an abnormal pap smear. So, this is something that your tribe needs to know. You know, the guidelines say now you don't have to have a pap smear, but every three to five years.

• 41:01Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I'm not cool with that.

• 41:02Speaker 02

  Have they lost their mind?

• 41:04Bunnie XO?

  I go once a year.

• 41:05Speaker 02

  I do too, and insurance pays for it.

• 41:07Bunnie XO?

  And also, I wanted to bring up to you guys, when you go and get a pap smear, ask them for an ultrasound of your ovaries also, because pap smears only check for cervical cancer, they do not check for ovarian cancer.

• 41:20Speaker 02

  That's right. We have no screening for ovarian cancer. But the test we did, the Galleri cancer screening test, you know, that looks at, at the methylation cycle. So, the only way that we know about ovarian cancer is when they do the bimanual exam, when we do the pap smear, right? And we put the fingers in there, that's, we're feeling ovaries, right? To see if anything's off. The only signs of ovarian cancer are bloating and early satiety, like eating and getting full very quickly.

• 41:48Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 41:48Speaker 02

  Those are signs of ovarian cancer. Well, who doesn't have that?

• 41:51Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I'm like God. Me every day.

• 41:54Speaker 02

  So, so I had for the first time, 58 years old, she called me and said, Dani, we've got an abnormal pap, but it's not just abnormal, it's low grade, like could be a cancer, not, not just atypical cells. And I said, what are you talking about? And we went back and looked 15 years I've been with her, never had an abnormal pap smear. So I had to go in for a colposcopy and a biopsy two weeks ago. And I just got the phone call Friday that it's completely negative. There is no cancer there. There is no cancer. But what if, and I had a pap smear last year, I have one every year. What if I'd waited the guidelines and had a pap smear in three years?

• 42:33Speaker 02

  Well, that atypical or low grade cells could have turned into a cervical cancer. And that's only one of five cancers that we screen for. So I'm a big believer in getting your pap smear every single year. And I, and the ultrasound as well, and interns may not pay for that, right? And some people can't do that. And ultrasounds are pretty inexpensive. But I'm a believer in going in and getting your manual, getting your breast exam from the clinician, whoever it is, if it's a gynecologist, whatever, or family practice, get the breast exam, get your pap smear every year. These are things we can do, preventative medicine.

• 43:12Bunnie XO?

  Which I still need to go get my mammogram this year. I haven't done it yet. I mean, I've had enough health shit this year. I'm just like, fuck my life. I'm like, Lord, I don't want to go get another test done, but I actually do need to get it done. So maybe I'll try to get that done before we go on tour.

• 43:27Speaker 02

  Always go to your dermatologist.

• 43:29Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. And I didn't get my ultrasound either because my, my gynecologist, her ultrasound machine wasn't working. So I need to get that done too, before I leave for tour. But I did get my pap smear, so we're good.

• 43:38Speaker 02

  Well, that's good. Get your pap smears. I'm telling you, that's a big deal, but get your preventative things done.

• 43:43Bunnie XO?

  Absolutely.

• 43:44Speaker 02

  Your skin, I just went, I just got a big, a little biopsy there taking off. Um, Friday I went and saw my dermatologist, had my first skin cancer six months ago on my leg, a basal cell. I mean, it's like, what in the world? But getting older, age is a risk for cancer. It is a risk for cancer. So the older you get, the more determined you have to be to stay on top of your preventative medicine.

• 44:09Bunnie XO?

  Absolutely. Health is wealth and.

• 44:11Speaker 02

  Health is wealth and your wealth. Your wealth will help you with better healthcare, but I am telling you, you better take care of your health, no matter what. Because you could have all the money in the world and it's not gonna, you're not gonna live any longer if you get diagnosed with it.

• 44:27Bunnie XO?

  That is the one thing I realized whenever we went through that aneurysm scare was I was just like, I've worked my, my ass off to be where I'm at. And it's like, what if something so simple like that can just take it away at the blink of an eye and take you away from all of it. And it was just like, you can't take any of that with you, you know? So you have to really stay on top of your health, be preventative, check everything. Every year, I, every year I get blood work done by you. I get, I get blood work done. I get mammograms. I get pap smears. Like it's a ritual that I do that if you can, you know, and thank the Lord, we're fortunate enough to be able to do that. And, you know, a lot of insurances will cover most of these things, the basic stuff, right?

• 45:11Speaker 02

  Absolutely. I was on Ten Care. I was on food stamps and Ten Care for six years going through nurse practitioner school. And I got divorced and lost everything. Let me tell you, Ten Care or Kentucky Medicare or whatever, any of it, that was the best insurance I've ever had in my life. It paid for everything. It paid for everything. Every pap smear, every preventative stuff. So even if you're on Ten Care, right? Or if you're on state aid, like I was, utilize it and get your preventative treatment, medicine or preventative, preventative exams done, you know? But people are scared. They put their head in the sand and I am telling you, putting your head in the sand will kill you.

• 45:51Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, you can't do that.

• 45:52Speaker 02

  It will kill you. You would never let your child, if you had children, you would never ignore your child's health. If there was something going on, right? Maybe you would take them straight.

• 46:02Speaker 03

  I'd be dicking my kids to the doctor all the time.

• 46:05Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 46:05Bunnie XO?

  You have to be your advocate, your health advocate. I've learned that too. You have to be, you know, doctors will do the bare minimum, especially Western medicine. So you have to be like, hey, man, this is what's going on. I learned that last year whenever I couldn't figure out why my blood pressure, my blood sugar and blood pressure kept spiking and I fucking figured out that it was rice that I'm allergic to. They were ready to put me on blood pressure medication. Nobody would advocate for my own health and you are the only person who knows your body as well as it is, you know? So it's like you have to be your own advocate. If something doesn't feel right and you don't agree with something, don't just go with it and take the pill. Go, search further. Like be like, no, this, I need to figure it out. And process of elimination can help you figure out so much stuff that's going on with your body too.

• 46:50Speaker 02

  You bet. You bet. And then, you know, rice, who knew? Rice is, you know, the Asians eat rice every day, all day. What in the world? It's not killing, you know? I mean, it's not the devil.

• 47:00Bunnie XO?

  My body is so weird. I miss rice. I want rice so bad. I love rice.

• 47:06Speaker 02

  And that's where, you know, the ability to be able to do food sensitivity testing that, that we've done and that I do, that, and not everyone has the ability to be able to do that because it's like $400, you know, for, for the big test. Great big test. But the top seven foods out there that affect most people, the top seven foods that that whole chapter is written on in there, gluten, dairy, soy, corn, sugar, eggs, and peanuts. Those are the top seven inflammatory foods in the country. They always have been. That's not going to change anytime soon. Who knew rice for you, right? Avocados for me. My body doesn't like avocados.

• 47:42Bunnie XO?

  That's crazy.

• 47:43Speaker 02

  Does not like avocados and does not like cashews. And cashews are my favorite. Oh, I love cashews. And, and anything that's dairy free, because I can't dairy, eggs, gluten, cashews, avocados. Those are the five big ones for me.

• 47:55Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. I don't do dairy, cashews. Last time I ate cashews, I fucking felt like I swallowed glass and had to take Benadryl. I've eaten cashews my whole life and I ate them one day and it, that was it. Game over. Couldn't eat them again. My heart was racing.

• 48:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, my body hates cashews and it is a highly inflammatory nut.

• 48:11Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. A lot of people are allergic to cashews.

• 48:14Speaker 02

  They certainly are, you know? And so peanuts aren't so bad. It's the mold in the peanuts. That's the problem, right? It's the aflatoxin.

• 48:22Bunnie XO?

  You didn't know that there's mold?

• 48:23Speaker 02

  No. So the mold in peanuts.

• 48:26Bunnie XO?

  Because Mimi eats peanut butter all the time.

• 48:28Speaker 02

  Mimi, I need you to read that.

• 48:29Bunnie XO?

  Which could also contribute to your, your Hashimoto's because it's an inflammatory.

• 48:34Speaker 02

  Yes, so it is so polluted peanuts. I have a whole section in here on on peanuts and and you know, and it's so good. Peanuts are so good. I love peanut butter. I could eat a peanut butter and jelly sandwich right now.

• 48:45Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 48:46Speaker 02

  Sitting here with you. Love it. I don't have a peanut sensitivity at all, so I can eat organic peanuts that are not loaded with mold. And so I talk all about it in here, you know, they grow in the ground and stuff.

• 49:00Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 49:01Speaker 02

  Yeah. And so it's the same with corn. Corn is the mold problem.

• 49:05Bunnie XO?

  Yep.

• 49:06Speaker 02

  As well, the afrotoxin, right? But Trader Joe's has organic, and as does Costco, organic peanut butter that's Valencia.

• 49:14Bunnie XO?

  Peanut butter.

• 49:15Speaker 02

  Valencia peanut, but Valencia peanuts have less mold in them.

• 49:19Speaker 03

  Okay, I'm gonna go check. I have organic peanut butter at home. I keep it in the fridge.

• 49:22Speaker 02

  Valencia.

• 49:23Bunnie XO?

  Does it have sugar in it, though?

• 49:24Speaker 03

  I got a, I don't think so, because Jason eats it. He doesn't eat sugar, so it probably shouldn't then if, I don't know.

• 49:30Bunnie XO?

  You gotta be careful, because there are some organics that have sugar in it. You have to make sure it says sugar free on it.

• 49:35Speaker 03

  Oh, my.

• 49:36Bunnie XO?

  I know.

• 49:37Speaker 02

  Just peanuts. You just need peanuts in it.

• 49:39Bunnie XO?

  Yep.

• 49:39Speaker 02

  You know, and maybe some salt.

• 49:41Bunnie XO?

  I taught her that, the least ingredients.

• 49:43Speaker 03

  Yeah. Oh, I taught Olivia that recently. She is obsessed with reading ingredients now.

• 49:47Speaker 02

  When you read those ingredients, that, you know, if it's got more than two ingredients in it, that's fake food.

• 49:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 49:54Speaker 02

  And you people don't realize it. I mean, they, they, I, I, I just so want to go up to people at the grocery that are down the frozen food aisle, right?

• 50:03Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 50:03Speaker 02

  And and you look at the back of those meals and literally the ingredient list is that long.

• 50:09Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 50:09Speaker 02

  You know, and and I rat on Chick-fil-A all the time, but I mean, I love, I mean, I think it's great. I mean, it's fine.

• 50:15Bunnie XO?

  I think this will be.

• 50:16Speaker 02

  There's fifty one ingredients in one Chick-fil-A sandwich.

• 50:20Bunnie XO?

  What? Tell me about Chick-fil-A.

• 50:25Speaker 02

  Chick-fil-A, there is a reason that Chick-fil-A tastes the same in Nashville, Tennessee, as it does in Las Vegas, Nevada. It is 100% Frankenfood. That's it. There's nothing real about it. There's 51 ingredients, count it, in their chicken sandwich. 51. There is a piece of chicken. That's the number one ingredient, but it's got hormones and antibiotics, which they refuse to take that out this year in 2024. Number three ingredient is MSG. 51 ingredients. There is a reason it tastes the same all over the United States. It is a chemistry experiment. And it's not just Chick-fil-A. I mean, you might as well

• 51:06Speaker 02

  eat at McDonald's, or Taco Bell, or any of that, because they're all the same. Or Cracker Barrel. It's a formula. Nobody's chicken sandwich, if you cooked a chicken sandwich three days in a row, it would taste different every time, because we mix it up a little bit different. Not when it's a chemistry experiment. That was designed specifically for addiction. Addiction. And people are addicted to it.

• 51:32Speaker 03

  I know some people who eat it almost every day.

• 51:33Speaker 02

  Every day.

• 51:34Bunnie XO?

  I want waffle fries. I love their waffle fries. But ever since you came on the podcast and told me that, I don't eat it anymore. I'll eat it if I have to. And it's like once every fucking six months. I can't even remember the last time we had it. But I won't eat it anymore. I feel so gross, and my face gets so red and flushed after I eat anything from Chick-fil-A.

• 51:56Speaker 02

  It's unbelievable. And I think, you know, they're an amazing company, I'm sure, but they gotta pay their board members, right? I mean, they've got, if it tasted different here, as it did in Paducah, Kentucky, you know, that's a problem. You know, people will be returning their chicken sandwiches. So always think about that. Why does it taste the same everywhere? It's the same with frozen food in the frozen food aisle. It's the same with all of this. It's not one ingredient food. Now, we don't always have time to put together a big meal, right? But you can chop up some broccoli and some cauliflower and, you know, an artichoke. I think we talked about artichokes last time. You know, you don't have a problem cooking them. It takes me all day.

• 52:36Bunnie XO?

  We love them.

• 52:37Speaker 02

  I know. I love artichokes. But you know, that's one ingredient food. Look at the list of ingredients in what you're buying. And if it's in a package, a box, a bag, a can, a tube. It's designed to be eat randomly, not all the time. That's the allostatic load that we're talking about, right? Eating it every day, all day. Well, it's gonna build up, build up, build up. And those, those, those toxins, those chemicals, that inflammation. And then boom, we're gonna tip over into autoimmune disease, chronic lifestyle diseases, diseases you weren't born with.

• 53:13Bunnie XO?

  So that brings me to another question then, because we had, some people got offended at a conversation that Mimi and I had had about getting lower ingredient foods. They were like, well, we don't have the money to do that. And, you know, for you to talk bad about certain foods isn't okay. But so for the people at home that are on a budget.

• 53:32Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 53:33Bunnie XO?

  What can they eat that's healthy and low ingredient food?

• 53:38Speaker 02

  Well, one ingredient food. I mean, seriously, you know, Walmart is the number one buyer and supplier of organic food in the world. So even if you don't eat organic, right? Even if you're eating traditional sprayed apples, grapes, all of that, you're on a budget, right? You're on a budget. You have Aldi's, you have Walmart. You can go and get, it may not be clean, but you can get one ingredient food. So, I mean, you can, the farmer's markets. I mean, I was on food stamps and I didn't know that you could use food stamps at most farmer's markets. I had no idea. Most of them take food stamps. But it takes a little effort.

• 54:21Speaker 02

  So then you have to look, okay, if you're busy, if you were like me, two little kids, on food stamps, no money, $430 a month in child support and in school full time, right? Nurse practitioner school. I mean, I had to do the best I could. I did the best I could and we ate a lot of frozen pizza, you know? Don't beat yourself up.

• 54:40Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 54:41Speaker 02

  When you know better, then you begin to do better. But, but. If you can make soup, right? Like I used to make a ton of soup. I used to use my crock pot. All the time. Well, I still do. I mean, I love my crock pot. I'm a crock potter. There is a cookbook called Make It Fast, Cook It Slow. One of the best cookbooks. I need it for tour. Maybe you need it. Make it fast, cook it slow. One of the best cookbooks I've ever had. It's all gluten free. Actually, and so, and I used to use it. You can do that on a budget. You can buy cheap, cheap, cheap meat. On a budget, put it in a crock pot. We eat so healthy on tour, so I love crock pot meals.

• 55:19Speaker 03

  And I think the issue is, is like, people don't want to identify. It's not that healthy food is expensive. It just takes more effort.

• 55:26Speaker 02

  It does.

• 55:27Speaker 03

  And that's where people, I think, get offensive with it. It's like, oh, well, we don't have the money. No, no. Cause I know how much broccoli costs. I know how much a zucchini costs. They don't cost $10 a zucchini.

• 55:39Speaker 02

  No, they don't.

• 55:40Speaker 03

  But it is gonna take you going home and cooking it.

• 55:42Speaker 02

  You gotta chop it, cook it, bag it, meal prep it and all that.

• 55:45Speaker 03

  And I'm, I'm guilty of that though, because I didn't love putting effort in. And I've noticed going one ingredient and she's really helped me change my diet and that is it does take a lot more effort. That's just the give and take of it.

• 55:58Speaker 02

  But the cleaner your diet is, the more one ingredient food you eat, the less you eat too, because it does.

• 56:05Speaker 03

  It fills you up.

• 56:06Speaker 02

  Food is designed, that Chick-fil-A, that McDonald's, that's designed to keep feeding you, right? Or to keep you getting hungry, to keep you eating, right? Diet Coke has so much sodium in it for thirst, so that you will be more thirsty and drink more. It's designed for addiction. And, and you just keep eating and keep eating the chips, right? The popcorn, all of that. But when you eat one ingredient food, you eat less. You're full?

• 56:29Speaker 03

  You do.

• 56:29Speaker 02

  Don't you?

• 56:30Speaker 03

  I had this conversation with my husband yesterday because he ate a hot dog at Costco. And then he got home and he goes, and he goes, this is the first time I've started to realize that the, the food, cause you know, my husband is a food addict, like his is way worse than mine, but.

• 56:46Speaker 02

  He really, I was proud of him for yesterday identifying how his body felt after eating that. Right. Man, he goes, I don't feel full and it made me feel bad. Yes. And he's never said that about foods before. So many people are not in tune with how they feel. They think it's normal to be exhausted after they eat, to be bloated after they eat, to have to go have diarrhea after you eat. That's normal. That's just who I am. That's not true. No. That's not how we were designed to live. I feel better at 58 years old than I ever did at 38. Same. I feel better at 44 than I have in a long time. And you know, I did change my diet, but I also changed the stress level and I got a lot of stress, but I cut out the soul suckers in my life.

• 57:30Speaker 02

  I automated a lot of things and eliminated and delegated a lot of things in my life. And I think people, they oftentimes people poo poo things they're, they're not up on, right? That, that, because it's, it's, they don't have the other things in their life in balance, right? Maybe they're not sleeping. It's very difficult to eat well if you're not sleeping at night because you're exhausted. Yeah. You're exhausted. And so we have to get you sleeping and, you know, and we need to get you exercising because your body's designed to move itself. You don't have to go to, you know, CrossFit four days a week, but you do need to move your body at least after you eat. Yeah. And that's going to help you feel better and make better decisions. And when you feel better, one step at a time, you make better decisions.

• 58:12Speaker 02

  And there's no shaming anyone if they can't afford. You know, I've been there. I grew up with a mom that, that had no money, but my mom also grew a garden and she canned everything, you know? And I don't do that. Yeah. I wish I could grow a garden. Me too. That is one of my dreams is to be a gardener. Yes, I know. And me too. And it takes, you talk about taking time. Yeah. Right? But man, if all heck breaks loose and the grid goes down and we have some sort of massive happen, something happen here. The people who are canned up and have canned their vegetables and like my mom, oh yeah. They're the real MVPs. You bet they are. You bet. And that's a whole nother way to also eat if you have the time.

• 58:53Speaker 02

  Because it, it's expensive initially to get everything together, but then it's so less expensive. But I am telling you, the people who, who do it, who have children, we have the opportunity right now to change the entire next, the, the, the trajectory of the next generation. Yeah. And it starts with diet and they are not feeding their brains on, you know, their brains can't grow on sugar and carbs and red food coloring and blue food coloring and and processed packaged food.

• 59:25Bunnie XO?

  The food coloring, I just cut red dye out of my son's diet and he is a different child.

• 59:30Speaker 02

  Completely different, he'd do it, he'd do a total.

• 59:32Bunnie XO?

  Completely and it's, I slipped up and I didn't check a piece of food the other day. He ate it. Holy terror.

• 59:39Speaker 02

  That's right, but that wasn't food. He was eating Franken food if there was red food coloring and that's something. And it's these little things that you discover that you learn and when you know better, you do better. And so it's not all at one time. You throw the baby out with the bathwater. It's every day, every week, every month, every year. You make better choices and in six months you go, holy shit. I can't believe I feel so much better.

• 1:00:05Bunnie XO?

  I wanted to use that as an example. I cut out sugar going on two years ago. And I ate something the other day. I forget what it was. Oh, the ice cream. So Mimi and I, I was like, you know what? I haven't had sugar in forever. I'm gonna eat some ice cream with my friend because I deserve it, right? I ate ice cream with her. I could, it was delicious, but I could, it hurt. It had so much sugar in it. Like my taste buds have changed so much and then I get on a plane and have a panic attack for four fucking hours. Because I ate sugar and you really don't realize, like even these changes, you don't realize how much your body is affected by these things.

• 1:00:46Bunnie XO?

  Until you've been out of it for that long and then you try to go back and you're like, holy shit. Now I know why I cut this out of my diet.

• 1:00:54Speaker 02

  That is such a great point because people say to me all the time, patients, well, I don't feel like I ever had a reaction to gluten before and now I tried it. Now I ate it after you've made me be off of it for six months and I am, I mean, I had a horrible reaction. No. You lived in a constant reaction before. You had no idea that your body was in fight or flight and you had this huge inflammatory load going on. You didn't know any differently until you started feeling better. And then you, but you know, the goal is. And unfortunate, that's unfortunate that happened to you. The goal is though, to build up enough resilience. That when you do want to have ice cream with your friend Mimi, right? That you don't panic attack in an air.

• 1:01:36Bunnie XO?

  I don't think it, listen, let's just, Dani, at this point, I don't think my body is ma- in this lifetime, I don't think my body is made up to go back to bad habits. Like, once I've let something go, my body is so sensitive.

• 1:01:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, your body is. I'm not that sensitive, so if I wanted to have ice cream with you, even though dairy is like the top of my list, I have built up enough resilience through the years of healing my gut, right? With probiotics and things and all the things and, and, and eating clean, that I would probably feel it the next day in my hands, because that's where I feel it, is the joint.

• 1:02:08Bunnie XO?

  Me too, I get it, oh, the joints, I get, my hands get swollen and my feet get swollen.

• 1:02:12Speaker 02

  My feet don't, but my, my hands look like little piggies, looks like little piggy fingers and, but I would have built up enough resilience that I could handle it. And that is what you want. It's not about forever denying yourself. That's what people think is, oh Dani, I love good food, what do you eat? What do you mean, what do I eat? That's like five foods out of hundreds that God made.

• 1:02:35Bunnie XO?

  I love eating healthy, I feel so good after I eat healthy. If I eat like a fast food meal, I get so tired and so like, um, my stomach is just uncomfortable. Like, you just don't feel good.

• 1:02:47Speaker 02

  You're just, you're just dragging down, it drags you down. So your body is designed to heal itself. And it wants to be a hundred and fifty percent. But it's, it, it's a process and it, it takes, it takes time. But there's no shaming anyone.

• 1:03:01Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, and again.

• 1:03:02Speaker 02

  Who says they can't afford it, because I am living proof that you can.

• 1:03:06Bunnie XO?

  Absolutely.

• 1:03:07Speaker 02

  One little, one little thing at a time, like maybe just change one thing.

• 1:03:11Bunnie XO?

  Absolutely.

• 1:03:11Speaker 02

  You know, we're gonna, we're gonna eliminate, we're gonna cut down on gluten drastically. Or I'm gonna learn what is gluten.

• 1:03:17Bunnie XO?

  Cut sugar out once a week.

• 1:03:18Speaker 02

  Cut sugar out, that's right.

• 1:03:19Speaker 03

  Yeah, I love what you said about being more informative, you then tend to make better choices.

• 1:03:25Speaker 02

  Yes. Yes.

• 1:03:26Bunnie XO?

  But yeah, we never want to shame anybody and like we are always here just to bring awareness. It's not us trying to be like, oh, we're better than you because we eat organic. Like it's never like that. We just want you to know that there is a different way that you can eat to make yourself feel better. And me, Danny, Mimi, we're all living proof. Mimi's made drastic changes.

• 1:03:47Speaker 02

  Yes, you have.

• 1:03:48Bunnie XO?

  Since she's came back, um, since she's came into this, you know, the whole situation and she's done so good. How many pounds are you down now?

• 1:03:55Speaker 03

  Forty.

• 1:03:55Bunnie XO?

  Oh, that's right at forty.

• 1:03:57Speaker 02

  It's phenomenal. I'm so proud of you. And it is, it's about baby steps and it's just making these, these little changes. That, and you look back in a year and you're like, whoa, I can't believe where I was in twenty twenty four.

• 1:04:09Bunnie XO?

  Cutting out the dairy was big for me.

• 1:04:11Speaker 02

  Dairy's huge. And you know, dairy is such a trigger for patients, such a trigger because we love cheese. Most people do.

• 1:04:18Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:19Speaker 02

  And I tell people, you know, if you believe in the Bible, Daniel knew two thousand years ago, how inflammatory dairy was. He gave up dairy. That's the basis of the Daniel fast. The warriors who came out the strongest warriors after ten days. Daniel said, we're not eating that. We are not eating that food of the king's palace. Red meat, red wine and dairy. That was the basis of the Daniel fast. They knew two thousand years ago, they didn't have pasteurized dairy. They didn't have antibiotics in their dairy. They did not have glyphosate round up all over their grass, those cows eating it. And they knew then how inflammatory dairy was. And it was clean dairy. So I am telling you, dairy's for one thing, baby cows.

• 1:05:04Bunnie XO?

  I used to love cheese, like I, you could not.

• 1:05:07Speaker 02

  I could eat that whole table.

• 1:05:08Bunnie XO?

  I can't, I can't. They gave, they brought me a cheeseburger the other night and I sent it back.

• 1:05:12Speaker 03

  Yeah, she was like, ah, that's way too much cheese.

• 1:05:14Bunnie XO?

  Like, and normally I would have never said that, but now like since I've been off dairy for almost a decade, I can't, like, I can have it in small doses. But if it's like a lot, I can't, I just don't crave it anymore. And that's, I think that's another thing that we should bring up for, you know, as a point is like, yes, you might crave Doritos and you might crave french fries right now, but. Your palate changes the healthier you get. Like I crave Brussels sprouts and salads. Like, you know, just like good stuff. And I promise you, it's hard. It is so hard when you're first getting off something because it's an addiction.

• 1:05:50Speaker 02

  You bet it is.

• 1:05:51Bunnie XO?

  And it literally will take six months to a year, but if you stick with it, you will, the, just the rewards of sticking with a clean diet are so much better than going back and getting those fries.

• 1:06:04Speaker 03

  Okay, so funny. I'm not as clean as her. And she'll eat stuff sometimes and she'll be like, this is delicious. And because I'm not as clean, I'll eat it. And me and Haley are like, that's fucking disgusting.

• 1:06:16Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I gave them some like, I, this, this, I made this like concoction that I thought tasted like smores. And I'm like, taste it. It tastes like smores. And Mimi's like, this tastes like fucking dirt.

• 1:06:24Speaker 02

  Oh, I can't believe you just said that because I fixed something recently and Jackson was home from, from medical school. And I said, man, you can't tell the difference between gluten and I think it was a gluten free pizza. I can't remember what I mean.

• 1:06:37Speaker 02

  And he goes, mom, I don't think you understand. You have been doing this since 2010. This tastes nothing like a regular pizza.

• 1:06:47Bunnie XO?

  I love gluten free pizza though. I think it's, I love gluten free bread, all of it. I love it.

• 1:06:52Speaker 02

  And he said, mom, it just doesn't taste, but it's great because our palate has changed. Right? And so, but, but again, when you know better, you do better. And I mean, when you get the opportunity to see your children's lives change, if you have children. It is fascinating that the teachers will send notes home from school, like, what have you done? Like this kid is totally different. I don't know how these teachers do it now with these sugared up, chemical up, red food colored, blue colored, yellow colored up children.

• 1:07:24Bunnie XO?

  Doesn't that food contribute to autism also? Don't they say that or that it can? Is that wrong?

• 1:07:31Speaker 03

  Some people say that, but it, there's no like.

• 1:07:34Speaker 02

  The same with, with, I think it's all environmental. Yes. So it could be vaccines. It could be genetic something. It could be environmental. It could be, I think it's, again, it's the whole allostatic.

• 1:07:47Bunnie XO?

  And if I'm wrong, forgive me. I thought I had read that somewhere. I'm an information junkie.

• 1:07:51Speaker 02

  Have read that somewhere. Here's what I can tell you after working with autistic children for five years at my old clinic, which I left 10 years ago today.

• 1:08:01Speaker 02

  He was the greatest, or still is autism doctor. He, the minute he would take them off of red coloring and blue and yellow and sugar and gluten, those children's lives changed. Those children's lives changed. Sometimes, sometimes they went from non-verbal to speaking or from flapping.

• 1:08:20Speaker 03

  I've seen that too.

• 1:08:20Bunnie XO?

  Jenny Farley, JWowz, said had that has that same story about her autistic son. So I think that was another example that I had.

• 1:08:27Speaker 02

  You bet. And so again, you know, if this, if these children were not born autistic, we have to go back upstream and figure out what happened.

• 1:08:37Bunnie XO?

  What caused it.

• 1:08:37Speaker 02

  What's caused it? What's going on? And let's start working on reversing. And that's what Dr. Calvin did beautifully. It's the same with autoimmune disease. Same thing with what I do, right? What brought on this Hashimoto's? Now, it could be six strep infections, right?

• 1:08:52Speaker 03

  Well, I also, I got sepsis a year ago. I went into septic shock. Jill has died. Yeah. I, I was left in a waiting room for three hours in the ER until I started going into septic shock and my husband ran up and was like, help her. And I was, yeah, literally dying.

• 1:09:08Speaker 02

  Maybe he had no idea.

• 1:09:10Bunnie XO?

  I've been trying to get her into you for years. I'm like, please go see Danny.

• 1:09:14Speaker 02

  You know where I am.

• 1:09:15Speaker 03

  I'm coming. I'm coming.

• 1:09:17Speaker 02

  I'm in a good new location.

• 1:09:18Bunnie XO?

  Before tour, go, please. You guys need to figure this out.

• 1:09:21Speaker 02

  We got you covered, sis.

• 1:09:22Speaker 03

  I'll see you.

• 1:09:22Bunnie XO?

  So are you ready to answer some questions from Patreon?

• 1:09:25Speaker 02

  Let's do it.

• 1:09:26Bunnie XO?

  Cause I, all of our Patreon members love you to death.

• 1:09:28Speaker 02

  Oh, my goodness.

• 1:09:30Bunnie XO?

  They love so.

• 1:09:30Speaker 02

  I tell you what, they come in, you know, the ones that come just for appointments and how'd you hear about us and on our paperwork and it'll say, Bunny, Bunny, I know, Bunny.

• 1:09:41Bunnie XO?

  I love that. That makes me so happy.

• 1:09:42Speaker 02

  I love it too. It makes me, yeah.

• 1:09:43Bunnie XO?

  So we're going to head over to Patreon and we're going to answer a bunch of you guys' questions and they actually have some really, really good questions in here. We'll start off with one that I think that you could relate to because you said you do have lupus. What advice, Rachel is asking, what advice do you have for lupus? I was diagnosed with SRE lupus last year and I'm trying my best to manage it holistically and spiritually. I don't want to have to rely on medication. I know my autoimmune disease is related to my childhood trauma, which I'm also working on healing right now, as I believe they correlate. Any insight is appreciated. Thank you so much, Dani.

• 1:10:22Speaker 02

  Oh, my goodness. Rachel, right?

• 1:10:24Bunnie XO?

  Yes, Rachel.

• 1:10:25Speaker 02

  Okay, well, I hear you. And I was 35 years old when I was diagnosed with lupus, and that rheumatologist had that hand on that door. And she said, "Well, Danielle, there's no cure for lupus. It kills women every year." That's what she said to me.

• 1:10:39Bunnie XO?

  You know, some people should not have their fucking medical license, dude.

• 1:10:42Speaker 02

  Oh, she still practices. Yeah, she still practices, too. And so, so all that being said...

• 1:10:47Bunnie XO?

  What's her name? No, I'm just kidding.

• 1:10:48Speaker 02

  No, I know. Yeah. I had a patient probably two years ago who had her listed as her rheumatologist, and I said, "Oh, man, she's still on her as hell." She said, "Yes, she is." I said, "Yeah." She told me I was, you know, kills people. And it does.

• 1:11:02Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:02Speaker 02

  But here's the thing. You weren't born with lupus. She already has enough insight to know, Rachel, about the childhood trauma. And so, address that. I didn't, I took the pain medication. I took the lupus medications very briefly, and this was before I even knew anything about integrative medicine. And it boiled down to healing the gut. Find out real fast what your food sensitivities are. If you can't do that, then cut out, cut out the top seven foods initially, and do that for one solid month, and start bringing the inflammation down. And I would be taking a really great quality fish oil and turmeric. And I'm a big fan of CBD. Now, I don't know what her symptoms are, right? There could be a butterfly rash. There could be the joint

• 1:11:47Speaker 02

  pain. There could be the kidney manifestation, because lupus will affect the kidneys. But the bottom line is, it's an inflammatory response, lupus is. And so, once you have one autoimmune disease, the average is three. Did you know that?

• 1:12:04Bunnie XO?

  I did not know that.

• 1:12:05Speaker 02

  Did you know that Hashimoto's, multiple sclerosis, and celiac are like triplets?

• 1:12:09Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 1:12:10Speaker 02

  So, we want to stop it at one, right? One autoimmune disease. But it's an inflammatory response. So, fish oil, for sure.

• 1:12:20Speaker 02

  Turmeric, turmeric, turmeric, anti-inflammatory. That's anti-inflammatory. Anything you can do to bring the inflammation down in your body. And get sleeping, moving. Uh, but now some people need to be on medicine for lupus. So do not ignore that. I don't know how severe it is, but get a great rheumatologist. And if you don't have a good rheumatologist, this is probably the best advice you'll get out of me. Find a new one then. Find a new one. Because as you know, you and I know, there are multiple providers out there. There is someone out there who will help you.

• 1:12:58Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 1:12:59Speaker 02

  Right? And I am living proof, if you were born healthy, you do not have to live sick. And if you're in a toxic relationship at home, if you're in a toxic job, these are all things that have to be addressed. Because stress will kill you.

• 1:13:13Bunnie XO?

  Uh, absolutely. That's what I've had to do this year is really lower a lot of my stress. And it's worked out swimmingly.

• 1:13:20Speaker 02

  Well, and you know, if I hadn't wanted to do this, right? I could have said, buddy, I can't do this. I don't, I'm tapped out. We have the right to say no.

• 1:13:29Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:29Speaker 02

  And we don't, as women especially, we don't realize that. No is a complete sentence.

• 1:13:35Bunnie XO?

  Yes, I say that all the time.

• 1:13:36Speaker 02

  All the time, right? I know. That's why I just adore you. But, um, so seriously, bringing down the inflammation. I know what it's like. I know what it's like to have lupus. And it is something that, you know, it's, I still have lupus, but I don't have the symptoms of lupus. When I check my antibodies, lupus antibodies are there, but I don't have the symptoms. But I healed my gut. I am telling you, the gut, no matter what these gals are asking or guys on here, the gut is 80% of your immune system. So you could answer almost any health question by saying, or 80% of it, by saying you've got to heal the gut.

• 1:14:12Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 1:14:12Speaker 02

  And we do that by eliminating the inflammatory foods first. And then a good probiotic will bring down inflammation. You don't take a probiotic.

• 1:14:20Bunnie XO?

  No, I just, I just read about some guy dying because he took a fucking probiotic. I'm scared.

• 1:14:25Speaker 02

  I own a supplement store and I sell a lot of probiotics and no one has died from a probiotic.

• 1:14:32Bunnie XO?

  I'm telling you, I research everything. And by the way, any of these supplements that we do talk about on this podcast today, please go over to Danny's website and order them. What's your website?

• 1:14:41Speaker 02

  Danny Williamson dot com.

• 1:14:43Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 1:14:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, the store pops up. Yeah.

• 1:14:45Bunnie XO?

  Speaking of, speaking of supplements, though, let's talk about magnesium. Because, yeah, there's so many magnesiums on the market, though. How do you know which one to take and which one is for which?

• 1:14:57Speaker 02

  Well, so if you're constipated, a magnesium oxide, a magnesium citrate, we, I don't care for those. We have them because some people just want them, but they're very harsh on you, right? Magnesium, glycinate, chelate, malate. That's my favorite. That's that big one that that we've used with you before. I take three of them at bedtime at night. Magnesium has over 300 functions in our body. We are so deficient in magnesium as a United States population because there's no magnesium left in the soil. There's no minerals left in the soil. Magnesium calms you down. It helps with panic attacks. It helps with migraine headaches.

• 1:15:40Speaker 02

  It helps with heart palpitations, restless legs, constipation.

• 1:15:45Bunnie XO?

  So which one magnesium is best for constipation?

• 1:15:48Speaker 02

  Oxide and citrate are the ones that they give you for constipation.

• 1:15:52Bunnie XO?

  But if it's harsh on your body?

• 1:15:53Speaker 02

  It is. That's why I use glycinate, chelate, malate. Ours has all of it in it. There, that has magnesium glycinate and malate in it. I love it. I take three at night, poop like a goose. I don't have any problems with it, but, and I know you're not.

• 1:16:09Bunnie XO?

  How do you take three? I would fucking feel like I woke up off a, in a Benadryl coma. Magnesium makes me so tired.

• 1:16:15Speaker 02

  Then take one and.

• 1:16:17Bunnie XO?

  I need to take a friggin smidge of one.

• 1:16:20Speaker 02

  Maybe you're a good one. I just started. We just got in the store because people kept asking for it and I never would do it. A magnesium gel, topical, spray.

• 1:16:29Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 1:16:30Speaker 02

  And I've been putting it on the bottom of my feet at night. I sleep well, but I play around with everything to see how it works. And then putting it on my shins. It's fantastic. And I think it would work amazing on your belly. Girls who are having cramps, I know it would. I don't think it would. I know it would. Like spread on your belly.

• 1:16:47Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:47Speaker 02

  You know, if you're having cramps or if you're constipated, maybe put it on your belly, maybe use it topically. Because the best way to absorb anything, really, honestly, is transdermally.

• 1:16:57Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:57Speaker 02

  What you put on your skin, you put in your body within twenty six seconds flat.

• 1:17:03Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 1:17:04Speaker 02

  So it better be clean, whatever you're putting on, your lotion, your makeup, your hair color.

• 1:17:08Bunnie XO?

  Does it get in your bloodstream?

• 1:17:09Speaker 02

  You bet.

• 1:17:10Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 1:17:10Speaker 02

  Sure. This is the largest organ on the body right here.

• 1:17:13Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 1:17:13Speaker 02

  So when you put all that toxic stuff on your body, it's through your bloodstream.

• 1:17:18Bunnie XO?

  Haley uses the spray.

• 1:17:20Speaker 02

  You bet.

• 1:17:20Bunnie XO?

  She likes it.

• 1:17:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:17:22Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:17:22Speaker 02

  What'd you say?

• 1:17:22Bunnie XO?

  Haley uses the spray.

• 1:17:23Speaker 02

  The magnesium spray.

• 1:17:24Bunnie XO?

  She puts it on the bottom of her feet. And then she'll put socks on and go to sleep.

• 1:17:27Speaker 02

  You bet. And it's fantastic for children who don't sleep well or don't poop, you know, put it on the bottom of their feet, rub it on there, they'll sleep great.

• 1:17:34Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:17:34Speaker 02

  But yeah, I'm loving the magnesium. Magnesium is what is, and you can get magnesium from, from, you know, vegetables and some nuts and things, but um, I just think taking a magnesium supplement, and I drink a little magnesium. I drink my magnesium a lot at night.

• 1:17:50Bunnie XO?

  I do that too.

• 1:17:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:17:51Bunnie XO?

  At nighttime. It's like the one you stir in with the warm water and then fill the rest with cold water.

• 1:17:54Speaker 02

  Yep. And I put it in a wine glass. So it's like I'm having a cocktail.

• 1:17:58Bunnie XO?

  Fancy.

• 1:17:58Speaker 02

  A lot of times I'll, I'll, yeah.

• 1:18:01Bunnie XO?

  Danny's hilarious. All right. Heather Macy is asking, how can I naturally boost my testosterone levels? I'm doing the pellets at this time and it's great, but not pleasant to get.

• 1:18:15Speaker 02

  Well, pellets are great. I have pellets in me and I like my testosterone pellets, but natural ways to boost your testosterone level, like shilajot will help your testosterone level. S H I L A J. Shilajot. Shilajot will. Horny goat weed.

• 1:18:36Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:36Speaker 02

  Horny. Have you ever used horny goat weed?

• 1:18:38Bunnie XO?

  No, I've, I've taken it before, but I don't know if I took it long enough for it to do anything.

• 1:18:42Speaker 02

  You gotta take it consistently, long enough to do it. Um, we have a product, I call it Wild Vitality, and it's horny goat weed and shilajot. It's got all these things in it. But so say naturally, um, working out, hardcore lifting weights will help also. Um, well, exercise clearly will, but.

• 1:19:05Speaker 02

  Libido is a very strange thing. If your sex drive is not good and you're using and you're on testosterone pellet pellets, which is a hormone, which is a little pellet that's inserted through a surgical incision in the hip. If your libido does not get better on that, because it's a pretty high dose, then it's not a testosterone problem.

• 1:19:26Bunnie XO?

  Does that lower your voice?

• 1:19:28Speaker 02

  No, my voice, I've had testosterone in me for, and I've got this squeaky voice.

• 1:19:32Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:33Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:19:34Bunnie XO?

  I was just wondering.

• 1:19:34Speaker 02

  I don't have a lot of hair. All my hair's on my head. It's not on my, you know, my face. But I do shave my face. But, listen, if your testosterone, if your testosterone, if your sex drive doesn't get better on pellets, then it's not a testosterone problem. It could be a relationship problem. So this is one thing that a lot of women and men don't realize. You may not be in a good relationship. Maybe your libido's bad because you're in an asshole marriage. You know, or a relationship.

• 1:19:58Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, if a woman's mind, is if a woman's mind and emotional well-being is not stimulated in a positive way, she is not going to be horny.

• 1:20:07Speaker 02

  Bingo.

• 1:20:08Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:08Speaker 02

  Bingo. And a man can be mad as a horny. You could be fighting all morning long and he wants to have sex all the way down the hallway. Oftentimes, and a woman just shuts down. So it's way more than just hormones. Sex drive is, right? It's dating your spouse. It's sexting your spouse, right? I don't have one, but you know, if I had one, I'd be like, I am so horny right now. I can't wait to come home. I mean, or take your pants off. And we forget all of that, right? Redating our partner, redating our spouse. But working out, dating your partner, again, giving them their love language. And these are all natural ways to boost your sex drive.

• 1:20:50Speaker 02

  Because men are real simple. They want good food, good sex, and they want to protect you. Am I right?

• 1:20:56Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:59Bunnie XO?

  That's my husband through and through.

• 1:21:00Speaker 02

  I mean, they are like putty in your hands. Right? And they usually are goo- I mean, there are some men that are not good, right? There are women that aren't good, and then that's a bad situation. But if you give your partner what they need and their love language, if you're giving them your love language and their love language is not acts of service, well, it's not gonna go well.

• 1:21:23Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:21:23Speaker 02

  Somebody's gonna give them what.

• 1:21:25Bunnie XO?

  Somebody's needs aren't being met.

• 1:21:26Speaker 02

  You bet. And so, those are great ways to raise your sex drive. But again, Shilajat, horny goat weed,

• 1:21:35Speaker 02

  Sol Pelmetto oftentimes will raise your sex drive because oftentimes, um, women with low sex drive, like PCOS patients, polycystic ovarian. Yeah. So, Ovasota, Ashwagandha.

• 1:21:52Speaker 02

  Um, what did I just say?

• 1:21:55Speaker 02

  Those will lower, um, they actually lower testosterone a little bit, but it'll increase your sex drive.

• 1:22:02Bunnie XO?

  Hmm. I had a really adverse reaction to Ashwagandha.

• 1:22:06Speaker 02

  You did?

• 1:22:06Bunnie XO?

  Oh, it made me wanna fucking run a mile and kill myself all at the same time.

• 1:22:10Speaker 02

  Oh, don't say that.

• 1:22:11Bunnie XO?

  No.

• 1:22:11Speaker 02

  It's one of my all-time favorites, Ashwagandha.

• 1:22:15Bunnie XO?

  This was also when I was taking all of those other. You were like overdosing on. This is right before I overdosed on the vitamins, when I was taking all those standard processed vitamins. So I, I need to take Ashwagandha again and give it a fair shake.

• 1:22:29Speaker 02

  I think we have, we have a really clean one. That's a Sheldon Ashwagandha. It's, it's, it's a clean one. But again, you're sensitive.

• 1:22:36Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:37Speaker 02

  So, and you use things for a little bit and then you don't react well to it. So you have to mix your things up. But libido is such an interesting question.

• 1:22:47Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:47Speaker 02

  But I do love my pellets and there's a lot of controversy on pellets and I put pellets in, in women, but I don't, you know, um. Advertise it off the mountain. Anywhere that I do, but I do, you know, have a good little pellet. But I only put testosterone in patients. I don't use estrogen.

• 1:23:02Speaker 03

  Okay, I have a question about this then. So I don't have a great sex drive whatsoever, but when I was pregnant with a boy, it shot through the roof. When I was pregnant with a girl, none.

• 1:23:12Speaker 02

  Well, look at that, because you had all that testosterone going through.

• 1:23:14Speaker 03

  Is that what it was? So I should supplement with testosterone then? Because then that was, I'm telling you, like, I could not get enough. My poor husband. I was chasing him around the house when I was pregnant with Cash. But with Olivia, I didn't even want him to look at me.

• 1:23:30Speaker 02

  But I, this is the number one problem.

• 1:23:32Speaker 03

  Try the ashwagandha.

• 1:23:33Speaker 02

  Ashwagandha is great.

• 1:23:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:23:35Speaker 02

  And before you do testosterone.

• 1:23:36Speaker 03

  Oh, no, yeah, I want to try that stuff you're talking about.

• 1:23:40Speaker 02

  Vitex Chaseberry is phenomenal. Yep. Vitex Chaseberry, it helps with PMS, irritability, breast tenderness, and sex drive.

• 1:23:49Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:23:49Speaker 02

  It's been used for thousands of years, and we use it with PCOS patients as well. But libido is real interesting. It's the number one complaint I have in my office is low libido. It's real rare that I have a woman who comes in and says, heck, yeah, I got a great sex drive. Dani, I can't get enough.

• 1:24:04Speaker 03

  Me, her.

• 1:24:05Speaker 02

  I can't, yeah, she's like, yeah.

• 1:24:06Speaker 03

  I'm the horny goat over here.

• 1:24:08Speaker 02

  I, I can't, you know, and, and it's, again, it could go back to childhood. It, there's lots, and I always ask, when was your sex drive the best? Most people say it was before child, I mean, before I had children.

• 1:24:19Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:24:20Speaker 02

  And then, and that's where you got it, you got to really, um, put your God, your spouse, and your children in that order. We forget.

• 1:24:30Speaker 03

  Alyssa says, I'm so glad you're bringing back Dani. I found her through your podcast. She's helped me so much. I love her Sunday night services on Facebook. Great free advice. I talk to her and ask her questions through her chat. She's awesome, awesome.

• 1:24:44Speaker 02

  That make, thank you. I appreciate that, man. I try to answer them. That's hard. That's a lot of. A lot of messages. I appreciate that. You know, people who do what I do for a living, we give away a lot of free education, like she just said, because we love it. And I know what it's like to be sick, and I also know what it's like to be healthy, and I will never go back to how I felt. And I want everyone to feel the way that I do. And, you know, you give it away. Give away as much as you can.

• 1:25:14Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I think when you get to a certain point, you just want, you just want, the only thing that makes you feel good is helping people.

• 1:25:19Speaker 02

  You bet.

• 1:25:20Bunnie XO?

  That's how I feel too.

• 1:25:21Speaker 02

  You bet.

• 1:25:21Bunnie XO?

  Katie asks, what is the healthiest, cleanest form of protein for a vegetarian? I'm 44 and trying my best to eat enough protein every day to keep some muscle as I age, but I don't want to rely on junk protein like soy products or processed stuff to get it.

• 1:25:36Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 1:25:37Bunnie XO?

  I don't think I can go back to eating real meat, but I do eat fish, and I'm not opposed to some animal products. Please help. I love your other advice the last time you were on the podcast.

• 1:25:47Speaker 02

  Thank you. Well, I'm gonna tell you, if you're not opposed to some animal products, if, if, if you want a protein shake, I'm a huge fan of a paleo protein shake, which is bone broth protein. We have a wild, we call it wild paleo. It's the cleanest. It's 23 grams of protein, I think. And then by the time I've put everything in it in the morning, it's about 36 grams of protein in the morning. So it's a paleo bone broth protein. So if you're not opposed to animal protein, then I would find a good paleo protein, one like a bone broth protein. But there are clean vegan protein shakes out there that are cranberry, chia, pea, hemp, and rice protein. I think we do a good job with them. We have multiple ones, but,

• 1:26:33Speaker 02

  and then I just brought in the first whey protein ever. I can't drink it because I can't drink dairy.

• 1:26:39Bunnie XO?

  Whey makes me swollen.

• 1:26:40Speaker 02

  Well, but it, and me, I just would hurt terribly. I tested it, and it was amazing. And we brought in a just ingredients one because people have been wanting it. And, and some people just won't give it up. And I thought, well, if they're gonna be drinking it, I want them to, I want it to be just one ingredient, whey protein. It's the best one I've found. And if you're not against to it, and, and there's, there's great protein in whey protein, but. It's inflammatory for a lot of people.

• 1:27:09Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 1:27:09Speaker 02

  You know, and, and to get your protein as a veg- as a vegan or a vet- well, vegetarian's different.

• 1:27:14Bunnie XO?

  They have pea protein.

• 1:27:15Speaker 02

  Pea protein, that's right. We have pea, rice, cranberry. You can't have rice protein. But my favorite one is, is called, um, um, what is it? Wild vegan, I think. And it's cranberry, chia, pea, hemp, and rice protein, which you couldn't do because the rice was in it. But it's really good. Twenty-four grams of protein. But you know, there's a lot of protein in nuts. If you're just eating food, beans, nuts, soy, if you're not sensitive to soy. You know, if you're sensitive to soy, don't eat it. But soy's not the devil. Because again, look at all the Asians who eat the rice and the soy.

• 1:27:52Bunnie XO?

  And they look like freaking babies.

• 1:27:53Speaker 02

  Oh my lord, their skin looks great. Their boots are up to here.

• 1:27:57Bunnie XO?

  Age.

• 1:27:58Speaker 02

  Right? No, they don't age at all. So good, clean, non-GMO soy. I'm not against tofu. I don't know how to cook it. I love it if somebody can cook it.

• 1:28:07Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:07Speaker 02

  And the beauty of tofu is you can make it taste like anything. Because it just absorbs everything you put on it. So I'm not a good tofu cooker though. Can you cook tofu?

• 1:28:17Bunnie XO?

  Tofu scrambles are bomb. And then if you live in Vegas, there's a place called Greens and Proteins out there and they have these tofu fries. I promise you guys, if you're not a tofu fanatic, you will be after you eat these tofu fries.

• 1:28:27Speaker 03

  They're good.

• 1:28:27Bunnie XO?

  They're so good.

• 1:28:29Speaker 02

  Really?

• 1:28:30Bunnie XO?

  Oh, they're amazing. Danny, we'll have to go to Vegas one time just so you can have them.

• 1:28:33Speaker 02

  I would love to go to Vegas just so I could have those. Because, yes, absolutely. But you can get plenty of protein in. But I would do, I'm, my first thought is get a paleo protein. That's a bone broth protein.

• 1:28:44Speaker 03

  Oh yeah. Where do you get that though?

• 1:28:47Speaker 02

  Well, we have it online called Wild Paleo. But I don't know, I mean, you could just find a good one. Ours is clean, organic.

• 1:28:55Bunnie XO?

  I trust all of Danny's supplements. So if you guys are gonna, and this, we're not just plugging just her store, but like she really does.

• 1:29:01Speaker 02

  We do work hard.

• 1:29:02Bunnie XO?

  Pour her heart and soul into these supplements and you can trust what she has in her supplements.

• 1:29:08Speaker 02

  I started with one little shelf like you behind there and now it's gone to a full blown store. And it is, we are very blessed. We have done a lot of work and they're all new. You know, like medical grade stuff. So we do. Yeah. And we bring in stuff like if Mimi says, you know, Danny, I've been wanting to try these electrolytes like I I hate electrolytes, whatever. So we are now bringing in new things because we have a new store. You know, whatever. If people are wanting stuff, message us, we'll bring it in. But you do have to be careful buying your supplements. You do. You have to be careful. You know this. There's a lot of crap out there.

• 1:29:44Bunnie XO?

  Well, I went to go buy some magnesium because I'm going to try to start taking magnesium again. And every magnesium has magnesium steate or siate in it. And that they said that that's like the most horrific magnesium you could have. But all these supplements have it in there.

• 1:30:01Speaker 02

  You really should try like our powder magnesium that I do. The one I take, I should have brought you that instead of the Chilax Max. But it, you know, there's real, there's magnesium in that Chilax Max.

• 1:30:11Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I just, it, you know, I don't know. If my body likes something one or two times and then it like does something crazy.

• 1:30:18Speaker 02

  Magnesium threonate is phenomenal for your brain. And that's the one I drink at night and then I take my magnesium glycinate. But the threonate, I don't think you would react to. And it crosses the blood brain barrier and it helps with memory. And it helps calm you down, helps you sleep. It'll help you poop as well. All magnesium will help you poop.

• 1:30:37Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:30:37Speaker 02

  But the citrate and the oxide are the ones that are the most.

• 1:30:40Bunnie XO?

  It's crazy because I used to take magnesium all the time. And then one day I started taking it and it just made me so tired, like deathly tired. And I was like groggy the next day after I had taken it. And I was just like, I can't do this. Like there, it just makes me so tired.

• 1:30:55Speaker 03

  Was that the same time you were taking those other vitamins though?

• 1:30:58Bunnie XO?

  I'm not sure. I don't remember. It's been so long since I've taken magnesium.

• 1:31:02Speaker 02

  I don't remember. You do. Magnesium is a good one. You need a little bit.

• 1:31:05Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:31:05Speaker 02

  Just a little bit.

• 1:31:06Bunnie XO?

  I finally incorporated fish oils and vitamin D three and K two back in my diet. I do the D three and K two once a week now.

• 1:31:13Speaker 02

  You bet.

• 1:31:13Bunnie XO?

  I'll break the capsule open and just put a little bit under my tongue.

• 1:31:16Speaker 02

  There you go.

• 1:31:17Bunnie XO?

  Just to get it in. And I've, I could take fish oils, no problem.

• 1:31:21Speaker 02

  That's two of my five. I think people need a fish oil, a D three, a probiotic. Most people need a probiotic. Most people are not eating. Enough fermented foods and probiotic rich foods, right? A D three official or probiotic magnesium.

• 1:31:36Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:31:36Speaker 02

  And I think a good multivitamin, like a full food multivitamin.

• 1:31:40Bunnie XO?

  I just bought some multivitamins off of TikTok shop, the liquid one. It's tastes like almond cookies or something like that. They say it's for hair growth or whatever. Those Saint Anne, Mary Kate or something like that.

• 1:31:50Speaker 03

  Mary Ruth.

• 1:31:50Bunnie XO?

  So I'm gonna try to, I'm gonna try a little bit of that to see if my body can handle it because you know, if I don't have methylated vitamins, my body, especially like B vitamins, I'll be up for three days.

• 1:32:01Speaker 02

  You bet. And so every vitamin we have in that office is, I assume everyone has an MTHFR mutation. Because I assume they all have a methylation problem. So we just methylate everything. Everything's methylated. So it won't hurt you, could help you, is how I look at it.

• 1:32:18Bunnie XO?

  Maybe I'll come in there tomorrow and stock up on some stuff.

• 1:32:20Speaker 03

  I have a question.

• 1:32:21Speaker 02

  You need to let me know if you do, because it's the new, we're at the new store. It's beautiful.

• 1:32:25Speaker 03

  So I know these are trending right now. So this is gonna be a really great thing. Everyone's gonna wanna know about is these probiotic sodas. So these Ollie Pops, these, what are, there's another.

• 1:32:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, Ollie Pop. That's my favorite.

• 1:32:37Bunnie XO?

  My husband's addicted to those. He loves them.

• 1:32:39Speaker 02

  Me too. Cherry vanilla is my favorite.

• 1:32:41Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:32:42Speaker 03

  How do you feel about those?

• 1:32:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, I feel real good about them.

• 1:32:45Speaker 03

  Okay, good, because I just bought a case.

• 1:32:47Bunnie XO?

  So you do love the Ollie Pops?

• 1:32:48Speaker 02

  I love the Ollie Pop. I think that they are fantastic. I drank a cherry vanilla one yesterday.

• 1:32:54Speaker 03

  Fantastic.

• 1:32:54Bunnie XO?

  And they're probiotics?

• 1:32:56Speaker 02

  Poppy or.

• 1:32:56Bunnie XO?

  Free and pro. Oh, so maybe that's how I can get my probiotics.

• 1:32:59Speaker 02

  And there's some nielin in it and there's prebiotic. Yeah, you could, you could try it. See, I really think they're great.

• 1:33:04Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:33:05Speaker 02

  What's your favorite flavor?

• 1:33:06Speaker 03

  Is there's like a strawberry lemonade or something like that one? I really like that one. I don't like the new Barbie one.

• 1:33:13Speaker 02

  I tried that. I didn't like that at all.

• 1:33:15Speaker 03

  Peach and cream or something like that?

• 1:33:17Speaker 02

  Strawberry vanilla and the orange, the grape one is fantastic.

• 1:33:20Speaker 03

  What's the other brand called? Oh, Poppy. Poppy's the other one. That's the one that.

• 1:33:23Speaker 02

  Everybody likes that one. I prefer the Ollie Pop, but it's fine. Whatever.

• 1:33:27Bunnie XO?

  You think they're good ingredients?

• 1:33:28Speaker 02

  I do think so. I think so. I mean, I'm not drinking eight a day or even one a day, but I'll really love it. Oh, yeah. If you were trying to come off a Coke, there's.

• 1:33:39Speaker 03

  Is there?

• 1:33:40Bunnie XO?

  Oh, then I can't drink it.

• 1:33:41Speaker 02

  Is there, they add sugar to it?

• 1:33:44Speaker 03

  Let me check. Checking right now.

• 1:33:48Speaker 02

  But is it added sugar like but or natural sugar that's already in it? I don't know the difference. Well, it'll say five grams of added sugar or it'll say five grams sugar. And then if it doesn't say added, they have to put on there if it's added in it would just be the natural.

• 1:34:04Speaker 03

  I'm gonna look because that's a good, good question.

• 1:34:07Speaker 02

  So I think that there's a lot of trendy stuff out there. You just have to always be careful, right? Um, but I do think Ollie Pops are are good, but I do think most people need a foundational. Oh, and a lot of people always ask, you know, what do, what do, what do we really need? I think D three, most people need some D three. Most people need some fish oil. They need some magnesium, a probiotic and a, and a multivitamin. That's a basic right there, but other people, some people need extra, you know, CoQ10 or extra ashwagandha, or some people need, you know, D ribos or L carnitine.

• 1:34:43Bunnie XO?

  What about collagen? Collagen seems to be viable right now.

• 1:34:45Speaker 02

  I love collagen. Now, I've, I've used collagen for I don't know how many years, probably over 10 years. And I use a grass fed, grass finished glyphosate certified free collagen. So there may be grass finished, but if there's roundup on the grass, you're getting, you're still getting it. Yeah, we do.

• 1:35:03Bunnie XO?

  Okay, cool. Maybe I'll come grab some tomorrow.

• 1:35:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, the perfect.

• 1:35:06Bunnie XO?

  Cause I can just put them in my morning, morning smoothies.

• 1:35:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, and I don't notice anything. It comes in chocolate and it comes in regular, like I put it in my coffee. You don't, you're not drinking coffee in the morning, but it dissolves instantly, like instantly. You could put it in hot tea. You could put it in your smoothie. Um, I was at the dermatologist Friday getting shaved off. He said, man, your skin's looking good, Danny. But I've done the same thing for years. Maybe it's just working finally. But, um.

• 1:35:29Bunnie XO?

  Danny, for being almost 60 years old, you look fucking great.

• 1:35:32Speaker 02

  I am getting ready to be, I'm gonna be 59 in January.

• 1:35:34Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:35:35Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 1:35:36Bunnie XO?

  I want, I hope I look as good as you. Your skin is fucking glowing. Like you are beautiful. You got a head full of hair.

• 1:35:41Speaker 02

  I do have hair. I lost a lot of it. I got hair. I got a hair, but I got, I don't have a boyfriend.

• 1:35:46Bunnie XO?

  You could afford to lose some. You got a lot of hair, baby.

• 1:35:48Speaker 02

  I lost a lot during COVID. It's a little bit different than that. I know it's a miracle. I'm still single, right, baby?

• 1:35:53Speaker 03

  It is a miracle.

• 1:35:54Bunnie XO?

  These men are just.

• 1:35:55Speaker 03

  I dated her.

• 1:35:56Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I, I know. Danny's a catch. I tried to hook my dad up with her.

• 1:35:59Speaker 02

  I know you did and, and it.

• 1:36:01Bunnie XO?

  I mean, thankfully it didn't work out because this would have been a whole sad situation.

• 1:36:04Speaker 02

  This would have been terrible.

• 1:36:06Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, that would have been fucking god awful.

• 1:36:07Speaker 02

  Story of my life. It probably would have been the love of my life and then he turns around and dies. I mean, I mean.

• 1:36:13Bunnie XO?

  Well, that's, that's Bill's signature move.

• 1:36:15Speaker 02

  But it's better to have loved and lost, they say.

• 1:36:16Bunnie XO?

  That's Bill's signature move, though. Love them and leave them. So I mean, it would have been par for the course.

• 1:36:20Speaker 02

  That'd be a whole.

• 1:36:21Bunnie XO?

  But no, God was protecting you. You didn't want that. You didn't want the headache.

• 1:36:25Speaker 02

  Bunny stepmom.

• 1:36:26Bunnie XO?

  I could be better than that. I would have loved that. God, you'd have been the only stepmom I liked, dude.

• 1:36:31Speaker 02

  Oh, my God. I am pretty cool. I don't know. I think it's just, you know, I'm busy. I do my stuff. I had a woman tell me yesterday, she said, I think this is it, Danny. You really don't need a man to do anything. But I asked somebody to help me and he was very excited about it and all, because I needed something done at the house. She said, that's it. You asked him for help and he, he was thrilled to help you because he knows that there's not a darn thing that you can't get done.

• 1:37:00Bunnie XO?

  And I think that might be why you have such a hard time finding love, because you are so independent. Men want to feel masculine all the time. They want to feel needed. And when, and that's the same problem that I had when, even with my husband, when we first got together, he would be like, you're just so tough. Like, well, you're just so tough about everything. Can you just soften a little bit? And I've softened so much, you know? And I think that, you know, especially nowadays, men are threatened by women who have their own success going on. Thankfully, my husband's not, but in the dating world, it's hard.

• 1:37:31Speaker 02

  That's what my psychiatrist said. He said, I think it's an intimidation thing, Danny, a lot, but, but, but, but then that's shame on them. Because then they haven't taken the time to get to know me, right? To get to know me, to know that I can be soft and I don't, I don't have to have a man, but I want a man, right? And so not to, to do life with. I would love to eat well, love well, travel well. Those three things.

• 1:37:56Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, you just want a best friend. You just want a best friend that has a weener.

• 1:38:00Speaker 02

  Isn't that something? Yes.

• 1:38:02Bunnie XO?

  Literally, I totally want, that's how I feel about my husband. Like, that's my best friend and he has a weener that I can hop on every now and then, you know? So, and that's all we really want. I think if Jay and I didn't work out, I would be just like you. I would not, I would want somebody, but I would like, you know, be very picky.

• 1:38:17Speaker 02

  I'm not gonna settle.

• 1:38:18Bunnie XO?

  Right, about who I have in my energy.

• 1:38:20Speaker 02

  I'm not going to settle.

• 1:38:21Bunnie XO?

  You earned that right, though. You have worked your ass off to get to where you are and you don't have to just settle for anybody.

• 1:38:27Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:38:28Bunnie XO?

  Because you are special and you deserve to have somebody who makes you feel special.

• 1:38:32Speaker 02

  And we all do.

• 1:38:35Bunnie XO?

  For sure. Jaime's got, his girlfriend's got the nicest rack I've ever seen. What? I just saw her the other night. I had to not look at her for too long because her boobies were so luscious and delicious. I was like, okay, go Jaime.

• 1:38:47Speaker 03

  I've been missing out.

• 1:38:48Speaker 02

  I love them.

• 1:38:49Bunnie XO?

  They're real. The rack is huge.

• 1:38:53Speaker 03

  Sings like an angel.

• 1:38:54Bunnie XO?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:38:54Speaker 03

  She got nice tits and can sing.

• 1:38:56Bunnie XO?

  She can sing. Has she ever sing topless to you?

• 1:39:01Bunnie XO?

  If she hasn't, we need to make that happen. What were you gonna say? You brought up something?

• 1:39:07Speaker 03

  Oh, no, the added sugars for the poppy. The poppies have three added sugars.

• 1:39:14Speaker 02

  Three grams, so a teaspoon.

• 1:39:18Speaker 02

  The poppy stick.

• 1:39:20Bunnie XO?

  Porkito.

• 1:39:21Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:39:24Speaker 02

  Tiny bit, tiny bit.

• 1:39:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, no, I love them. I love those sodas. I'm happy to hear that they're good.

• 1:39:29Speaker 02

  That's one good way. I mean, and get your, eat your probiotics, you know? I mean, nobody's eating, very few people are eating kimchi.

• 1:39:35Bunnie XO?

  I do.

• 1:39:35Speaker 02

  Sauerkraut. Well, I love it too.

• 1:39:37Bunnie XO?

  I will eat it with every meal.

• 1:39:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:39:39Bunnie XO?

  I love it.

• 1:39:39Speaker 02

  I grew up with.

• 1:39:40Speaker 03

  Another good source, if someone doesn't like, because I can't do sauerkraut. She should down some sauerkraut.

• 1:39:45Bunnie XO?

  I put, cut up sausage and put it with sauerkraut. Oh, my God, it's so good.

• 1:39:48Speaker 03

  I try to eat really green bananas.

• 1:39:50Speaker 02

  Green bananas?

• 1:39:51Bunnie XO?

  Green bananas.

• 1:39:53Speaker 02

  Green bananas are a good prebiotic. Prebiotics and artichokes, Jerusalem artichokes, prebiotic.

• 1:40:00Bunnie XO?

  What's a green banana? Like an unripe banana?

• 1:40:03Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:40:04Speaker 03

  And I do eat the hell out of some artichokes. I have an artichoke tattoo. That's how much I love them.

• 1:40:09Speaker 02

  What?

• 1:40:09Speaker 03

  I do.

• 1:40:10Speaker 02

  You gotta teach me how to cook them. Man, it took a half a day to cook them.

• 1:40:16Bunnie XO?

  And then you make this mayonnaise, not real mayonnaise, of course, we use.

• 1:40:21Bunnie XO?

  And you put garlic in it. Oh, my God, it's, and you mix it together and you just fucking dip.

• 1:40:26Speaker 03

  My daughter loves it too. She'll eat artichokes all day with me.

• 1:40:29Bunnie XO?

  So good.

• 1:40:29Speaker 02

  I love artichokes. Yeah, I do.

• 1:40:32Bunnie XO?

  Danny.

• 1:40:33Speaker 02

  I, um, I'm proud of you.

• 1:40:35Bunnie XO?

  I'm proud of you.

• 1:40:36Speaker 02

  You're kicking it over here. You're doing it. You're fighting for your health. You're fighting for other women and men, but you know, you're such a role model to these women that you can overcome.

• 1:40:47Bunnie XO?

  I love you.

• 1:40:48Speaker 02

  And overcome.

• 1:40:48Bunnie XO?

  And I appreciate that.

• 1:40:49Speaker 02

  You're a true warrior.

• 1:40:51Bunnie XO?

  I appreciate that, but you are the same. You're my birthday twin, right? Aren't you? What are you, January 21st?

• 1:40:55Speaker 02

  Eighteenth.

• 1:40:56Bunnie XO?

  Oh, the eighteenth. Yeah, we're on the same cusp.

• 1:40:58Speaker 02

  Yep, we are.

• 1:40:58Bunnie XO?

  We're on the same cusp as Dolly Parton.

• 1:41:01Speaker 02

  Yes, we are.

• 1:41:02Bunnie XO?

  You have moved, uh, places into a bigger, nicer area.

• 1:41:08Speaker 02

  One level. You're gonna love it. It's, it's really cool. It's about to give me a nervous breakdown, but yes, and it's, it's cool. And Jackson will come out of school eventually. The reason I'm doing it now is, is he'll come out and wants to go into practice with me. Have a pelvic floor, physical therapist in there with me now, who is unbelievable.

• 1:41:25Bunnie XO?

  I need that.

• 1:41:25Speaker 02

  She's practi- oh, she's phenomenal. She's, they come from all over to see her. She's, she's amazing.

• 1:41:30Bunnie XO?

  What do they do?

• 1:41:31Speaker 02

  Well, pelvic floor, so women's pelvic floor. I went to see her. My urologist sent me to her five years ago because I was peeing on myself. I'd laugh or jump or whatever and, you know, just old and getting older. And she does, she gets up and personal in there, all in there and checks your vaginal tone, your pelvic tone. When you're doing Kegels, when you're doing, she taught me the proper way to do Kegels. I'm a nurse midwife. I thought I knew all that. No, I didn't.

• 1:41:58Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 1:41:58Speaker 02

  You always do them on the exhale. You never do them on the inhale.

• 1:42:02Bunnie XO?

  A Kegel on the exhale?

• 1:42:03Speaker 02

  On the exhale, so.

• 1:42:04Bunnie XO?

  So teach me how to do a Kegel.

• 1:42:05Speaker 02

  So let's inhale.

• 1:42:06Bunnie XO?

  Okay.

• 1:42:07Speaker 02

  Okay, let's do it. Hang on. Here we go.

• 1:42:10Speaker 02

  On the exhale, squeeze it up, squeeze it up, squeeze it up. The beauty of Kegels is you can squeeze them. You can do Kegels, you can do a hundred of them sitting here.

• 1:42:18Bunnie XO?

  So when you do a Kegel, you don't just go like this.

• 1:42:20Speaker 02

  No, you're gonna pull it up like an elevator.

• 1:42:23Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 1:42:23Speaker 02

  Up, up, up, up, up.

• 1:42:24Bunnie XO?

  Hold on.

• 1:42:25Speaker 02

  Hold it.

• 1:42:27Speaker 02

  On the exhale.

• 1:42:31Speaker 02

  My pussy feels tighter. It was Jaime breathing with us for me. Men can do them too because, but they get leaky penises the older they get too. Really? So they kibble it up. I never knew that. Yeah. Oh, so funny. Their prostates get large, yeah, and then they start dribbling around. You got these guys with little, you see the little pee pee on the front of them, little poor, bless their hearts. Son of a bitch. I know, I know. I'm gonna have to find a guy who doesn't do that. Danny, we need to get you a young buck. I need a young one, Donna. We need to get Danny some street meat. Oh, not the street meat again. So anyway. It's not that one, but I just mean in general. You all stop. The new place is great. The new place is fantastic. Anybody who comes to Nashville or Brentwood needs to come see us.

• 1:43:15Speaker 02

  We'd be thrilled to death to have Bunny's Tribe in there. Yeah. Um, saying hello. Where, where do they go? Give them the address? 7105 Bakers Bridge Avenue, right catty cornered from Costco. Oh, I love that. We are in the perfect location now. Yay. Like everybody goes to Costco and gets a hot dog. Yeah. Or a piece of pizza. Yeah. Then they need to come over to me and get their probiotics, right? And get gut health products. That's right. And then if they want to shop online, they go to Danny Williamson dot com. That's right. That's right. And Danny Williamson Wellness is Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, all the things. Of course, I'm not as good at TikTok as you are, but you got, got us going. But again, um, your body's designed to heal itself.

• 1:43:56Speaker 02

  And Bunny, that's the thing. Everybody needs to know that, that listens to this is, I mean, you've got amazing guests that come on here. But, but the thing is, um, our bodies are so resilient and we are so resilient. And oftentimes we don't realize, we can't see the forest for the trees. We got so much going on. But just make one little baby step, one something, make one little change. Maybe it is the, the sugar. Go for a walk. Go for a walk. Go for a walk after dinner. I'm gonna do it three nights a week, or maybe put your phone down and don't take it to bed. We just got a bit, I mean, they just came out just yesterday. I think I shared it. In fact, it's still on my, it may still be on my Instagram, probably can't get over to it.

• 1:44:41Speaker 02

  Um, that, which we've been saying forever, do not get your phone in the bedroom with you. No, it's gone. The bed is for sleep and sex only, right? You don't sleep near your phone. You don't have it near your phone. This phone in its settings tells you how far it has to be off of your body to prevent cancer. It tells you, if you go to your settings, which we don't want people doing this because they'll, they'll get off air with you or whatever, but they won't, but you go to your settings to general, you scroll all the way down to legal and regulatory. Who knew this was in the bowels? Do you see it? I'm in it. Legal and regulatory, click it. The very bottom one says RF exposure. That stands for radio frequency exposure.

• 1:45:26Speaker 02

  And then it tells you, um, mine is on the second paragraph. This must be, um, uh, five millimeter separation off of your body. It's about a pencil eraser. So they're covered when you get brain cancer because you put your phone to your. I always speak on speakerphone. You bet you do. Distance is your friend with radio frequency, with electromagnetic fields. But they ju, well, they just came out with a study, just, just literally, just this week, I think. You know, the further this is away from you, the better. We're seeing a higher rate of testicular cancer on, on young men because they put their phone. Get your phone out of your pocket, get it away from your testicles. He literally sets it up on the counter. Okay, yeah.

• 1:46:10Bunnie XO?

  That's crazy.

• 1:46:11Speaker 02

  Right? And so back when these were smaller and women put them in their breast, we saw breast cancer is the shape of that lithium battery in there. This is radioactive. So you get it off your person. You speak on speakerphone with it, right? You don't put it up your head. You for sure don't have it on your head driving down a, uh, uh, the road in a metal tube where it's having to work super hard to find a cell signal. So it's putting out more electromagnetic fields. Yeah, this is a big deal. This was designed, you think Chick-fil-A is designed for addiction? This. Was highly intentional.

• 1:46:47Bunnie XO?

  Crazy. And that's why the symbol is an apple on the back of it because of Adam and Eve. And it has the apple that has a bite bitten out of it.

• 1:46:55Speaker 02

  You bet. So this there it's you could make yourself crazy thinking about everything that we need to do, but just baby steps, even if you get the phone away, right?

• 1:47:06Bunnie XO?

  I've been detaching from my phone a lot. I've been trying to detach from my phone a lot too. I feel so much better on days where I don't, I'm not online.

• 1:47:14Speaker 02

  You bet. You bet you do. It's called fubbing. So we, we actually wrote about it in here. Don't fub your spouse instead of snubbing your spouse, fubbing, fubbing the phone. We do, we fub our spouse. There's another reason you may not have sex drive, right? You're on your frigging phone all the time.

• 1:47:30Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:47:31Speaker 02

  Put the phone down eyeball to eyeball. There's nothing like eyeball to eyeball, is there?

• 1:47:36Bunnie XO?

  No.

• 1:47:37Speaker 02

  And just talking to people.

• 1:47:39Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:47:40Speaker 02

  Yeah. So again, it's all, it's all about allostatic load and it's just, nobody's perfect. Nobody's got all these balls in the air at the same time in beautiful rhythm. You know, somebody's kid's going haywire or, you know, out whatever happening to them. You know, somebody's finances are falling apart. Maybe, you know, you don't have time to cook and you had to eat a pizza, but it's okay. Tomorrow's a new day.

• 1:48:06Bunnie XO?

  Yep.

• 1:48:07Speaker 02

  Tomorrow's a new day.

• 1:48:07Bunnie XO?

  Just as long as you take those baby steps.

• 1:48:10Speaker 02

  Baby steps.

• 1:48:10Bunnie XO?

  Just change something once a week.

• 1:48:12Speaker 02

  Once a week.

• 1:48:13Bunnie XO?

  Up it twice, up it to three times.

• 1:48:15Speaker 02

  Because there's so much free stuff online, but you got to also know what you're, who you're reading. Cause there's a lot of crap, but I mean, the basic stuff, read about it, start making changes. And I'm telling you, we, we've got this beautiful life and don't waste it. Because just like what happened to you, you know, a couple of weeks ago, that was very scary. What happened to me last week when she said, you know, Dani, I've got to biopsy this because this could be cervical cancer. I was like, what? I've just gotten everything in order.

• 1:48:46Bunnie XO?

  Right. That's how I felt too.

• 1:48:48Speaker 02

  My life is great.

• 1:48:49Bunnie XO?

  I even said, I was like, Lord, you have given me my dream life. Are you really going to take it from me right now?

• 1:48:55Speaker 02

  And I am telling you, don't wait until you have a wake up call.

• 1:48:59Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:48:59Speaker 02

  Don't do that.

• 1:49:00Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:49:00Speaker 02

  Do it now because here's the beauty, and I know, I know we gotta go, but here's the thing.

• 1:49:06Bunnie XO?

  No, you're fine.

• 1:49:06Speaker 02

  If you get diagnosed with a cancer, right? If you get diagnosed with a stage three cancer and you've spent 15 years.

• 1:49:15Speaker 02

  reversing inflammation in your body, or you get diagnosed with a stage two and you've really worked hard doing, working the steps. Then that's a blessing that it's a stage two and not a stage four, because guess what? Had you not been doing the work the last four years or 10 years or whatever, that would be a stage four cancer.

• 1:49:33Bunnie XO?

  Yep.

• 1:49:34Speaker 02

  And we don't have a stage five cancer. You know, so, so don't discount the fact if you do get a bad diagnosis and you've really been working hard on something through the years, that you probably saved your life.

• 1:49:46Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 1:49:47Speaker 02

  Because you've, you've, you've decreased inflammation and you've really been working. So I, I think that's hard to, to hear when you're going through the fire, but yeah.

• 1:49:55Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, but it's needed to be heard, so. Well, we love you, Dani. Thank you for coming on again. I can't wait to have you back. I, you're one of my favorite people to sit down and just pick your brain because it's just so crazy, the wealth of knowledge that just flows out of you. Um, so I really appreciate you coming here.

• 1:50:13Speaker 02

  Thank you. Well, I love what I do and I'm blessed every day to get to go open those doors and I, it's emotional. And today, like I said, is my 10 year anniversary of leaving my office, stepping out of that boat to open that clinic.

• 1:50:24Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:50:25Speaker 02

  And, um, 10 years today, and it's very emotional because I could have gone bankrupt, which, you know, if I did, I did, right?

• 1:50:32Bunnie XO?

  But if you don't take chances, you never know.

• 1:50:34Speaker 02

  My thought was what's the worst case scenario? I go bankrupt? Well, okay, well.

• 1:50:38Bunnie XO?

  Get up and try again.

• 1:50:39Speaker 02

  Try again.

• 1:50:40Bunnie XO?

  That's right.

• 1:50:41Speaker 02

  And, and you know, I didn't have to. I was blessed. I walked on water and, and anyone can. If you're scared, I mean, do it scared. You've done everything scared your entire life. So have I.

• 1:50:51Bunnie XO?

  Yep. I thrive on being scared.

• 1:50:54Speaker 02

  I do too. I do too.

• 1:50:56Bunnie XO?

  If it doesn't make my butthole pucker, I don't want to do it.

• 1:50:58Speaker 02

  That's right. So I, I, I, that's right. I thrive on being scared too, apparently.

• 1:51:03Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:51:04Speaker 02

  You know, I'm getting older now though.

• 1:51:05Bunnie XO?

  We're adrenaline junkies.

• 1:51:07Speaker 02

  We are adrenaline junkies. That's, that's fact, unlike Chachi over there.

• 1:51:10Bunnie XO?

  Oh, he's sleeping, man.

• 1:51:12Speaker 02

  Look at him.

• 1:51:13Bunnie XO?

  All right, guys, we are out of here. Thank you guys for listening to another episode of Don Blonde. I will see you guys next week. Bye.