Kam Patterson rising comedy star on Kill Tony secrets, Kevin Hart, Tony Hinchcliffe, finding his voice, handling fame, betting on himself, lessons from his father, comedy, acting, failure, growth, and why you have to do the things that scare you

“In life, you have to do the things that scare you.” Kam Patterson Kam Patterson, comedian and Hollywood star, sits down with Ryan, Channing and Fred for an honest conversation about his metaphoric rise in comedy and the lessons that shaped him along the way. Kam opens up about growing up, finding his voice through stand-up, and the invaluable advice his father gave him that continues to guide his life and career. He reflects on the mistakes he's made, the pressure that comes with sudden success, and the challenges of staying authentic while navigating the entertainment industry. The conversation dives into Kam's breakout moments on Kill Tony, his experiences around Saturday Night Live, and the challenges he faced trying to adapt his comedic style to formats like Weekend Update. He shares how those struggles pushed him to grow as a performer and better understand his voice as a comedian. Despite recent backlash his mentor Tony Hinchcliffe has received from the black community, Kam shares a different side of working with the comedian who he credits for changing his life in ways he can’t explain. Kam also discusses making the leap into acting and what it's been like working alongside Kevin Hart on his upcoming movie, offering a behind-the-scenes look at the opportunities and responsibilities that come with expansion, discussing the transition from stand-up stages to the big screen. Filled with humor, honesty, and insight, this episode is a powerful conversation about resilience, self-belief, embracing challenges, and trusting the process even when the path forward isn't always clear. From family and failure to fame and finding purpose, Kam delivers a candid, hilarious, and inspiring look at the journey behind one of comedy's fastest-rising stars. This is a conversation about perseverance, growth, and betting on yourself when nobody else sees the vision. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:30Ryan Clark?

  Everybody's chasing the next thing, the next opportunity, the next dream. But very few people are willing to leave everything they know and bet on themselves, all the while staying the same person when the world around you is changing. But our guest today, he did just that. He started out working at Foot Locker, telling jokes with his homeboy, moved from Orlando to Austin at just the age of 21 with nothing but belief in his talent. Cam Patterson never stopped betting on himself. Also, his father bet on him when the rest of the world didn't even believe. And then came Kill Tony, sold out rooms, and now the biggest stage in entertainment, Saturday Night Live. But success hasn't changed him. We talk about growing up around what he called

• 1:13Ryan Clark?

  "tough guys in the O," and hooping. Sometimes the ball went in, sometimes it didn't. And now that white women are sliding into his DMs, he wants everybody to know he got the same girl. I mean, sometimes they're up, sometimes they're down, but right now, they're up. He also explains why Saturday Night Live has been the hardest challenge of his career, and he refuses to become somebody different just because life has changed. And somewhere along the way, guys, we get off track, and he starts making fun of my workouts. And you know Chan loved that. It's honest, it's hilarious, and it's a reminder that no matter how high you climb, the people worth rooting for never forget where they come from. And if they believe enough,

• 1:56Ryan Clark?

  they may just land a Netflix movie with Kevin Hart. This is another Pivot with me, Chan, and Freddie T. Pivot fam, again, thank you for pivoting with us.

• 2:06Speaker 02

  Hold up.

• 2:16Speaker 02

  Knowing me, I got the key. Only vision I can trust, trust. Limitless, niggas tell me kind of pinning it. I thought they hear the witness it. Got my people feeling militant.

• 2:26Ryan Clark?

  You know, I feel better now that I'm not, I'm still not on red in the DM.

• 2:30Speaker 03

  Nah, he got a lot of shit going on, man, nigga. Woo.

• 2:33Ryan Clark?

  As soon as he got picked for the cast, I was like, man, this is dope. We shoot New York all the time, it's a young comedian, wanna put him on. Then he hit me up like, hey, man, get my guy Cam on. I screenshotted it to him. I was like, here the DM, I sent him in December.

• 2:48Speaker 03

  I folded. Real niggas fold all the time, man. Real niggas fold all the time, dawg. I can't fold.

• 2:55Ryan Clark?

  He was fighting.

• 2:56Speaker 03

  Yeah, I folded a little bit, I'm sorry.

• 2:59Channing Crowder?

  They called me loud and they were like, you might be loud.

• 3:02Fred Taylor?

  You can hear him 10 miles away.

• 3:04Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, but I mean, I can't be shy.

• 3:06Fred Taylor?

  It's not a bad thing. I was telling him, I was like, it might be more of a part of being a comic.

• 3:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, I can see that.

• 3:13Ryan Clark?

  Well, Cam Patterson, man, welcome to the show.

• 3:14Speaker 03

  What's up, what it do?

• 3:15Ryan Clark?

  Welcome to the show. This is Channing Crowder, Fred Taylor, Ryan Clark, Pivot fam. Thank y'all for pivoting with us. So, we were talking about it before, cuz I know, you know, I saw you make the pitch to me, you know, on Weekend Update. So, I know if these little chicks DMing you, you answer them. But you left your boy on red for months, dawg.

• 3:33Speaker 03

  Now, first of all, I ain't mean to. That was, one, it was accident. Two, I'ma tell you something about the mad situation. So, I want everybody, I want everybody to know, cuz I love black queens. I'm, you know what I'm saying, for, for, feel me? Where my camera at, right here? I love, I love, my mama black, my grandma black, I love my black queens. And on SNL, I shot my shot at a black queen and she ain't respond, which is okay, it's cool, man. I'm still, I'm still waiting, it's all good. But I want to understand. What did, what did happen was, when I shot my shot at me, I landed up and snowbanded in heaven. So, if I [bleep] a white bitch, ain't nobody be mad at me cuz I tried. I tried and I tried hard. I'm on a real nice television show and I tried really hard. And what happened was, a white bitch was like, well, she not answering.

• 4:20Speaker 06

  I'm around.

• 4:21Speaker 03

  You gotta catch that punt.

• 4:22Speaker 06

  You got it, well, I'm not gonna let it fall. You can't let it drop.

• 4:25Fred Taylor?

  Nah, it's more like a rebound.

• 4:26Speaker 06

  A hundred percent.

• 4:27Fred Taylor?

  You and Meg need a rebound.

• 4:28Speaker 06

  A hundred percent. I love her though.

• 4:30Fred Taylor?

  See what I did there? You see what I did?

• 4:31Speaker 06

  No, that was good.

• 4:33Ryan Clark?

  Hey, he said if I hit one of them, not my fault.

• 4:36Speaker 06

  He can't be mad at me.

• 4:38Ryan Clark?

  Hey, he also said, he's like, he said, "Am I the man you want?" No. "Am I the man you need?" Also no.

• 4:46Speaker 03

  Honest.

• 4:48Speaker 06

  She don't need me. She don't need me at all, but I'm here. You folks sound around.

• 4:54Speaker 03

  Yeah. Did it crank up? Once you got, you know what I'm saying? Once your fame got up and all that.

• 4:58Speaker 06

  Oh, yeah, it started going crazy. But I gotta let it though. I be, I be talking all crazy shit. I gotta let it.

• 5:02Speaker 03

  Oh, okay. How long?

• 5:04Speaker 06

  Like five years, off and on.

• 5:05Speaker 03

  Off and on?

• 5:06Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 5:07Speaker 03

  What's that mean?

• 5:08Speaker 06

  Shit.

• 5:10Ryan Clark?

  That mean when he doing right, they up. And when he not.

• 5:13Speaker 06

  When I'm doing good, we silent.

• 5:15Ryan Clark?

  Yeah. And when I'm...

• 5:18Ryan Clark?

  You know what I'm saying? When I'm fucking up, I mean messing up. I be trying to, I be trying to stop myself. I be trying to get better. But I be messing up. It's like, you know, we figuring it out though.

• 5:27Speaker 06

  Nah, she the best though. She with me for, she been, she with me since I was like, like, trying to figure it out, like just lost, you feel me?

• 5:35Speaker 03

  Yeah. And that journey? That journey be hard?

• 5:38Speaker 06

  I mean, stand-up wise?

• 5:40Speaker 03

  Just stand-up, just, just the journey of comedy. Can I, can I do it all? And we was just joking about it, but you know what I'm saying? I tried and all, but to make a living out of it, that shit hard?

• 5:49Speaker 06

  I mean, it was tough. I mean, it happened for me pretty quick though. So it was, it was, it was like really a blessing how fast it happened. But I mean, I situation where, I mean, I been doing comedy five years since, in April, so... I wouldn't say it was tough, but it was, it was, it was fun though, like getting to this point, being like, the rise been amazing. You feel what I'm saying? Because at one point, it was just, I just locked in on stand-up. Like all the way, I was like, I'm gonna do it every single day until, till something happen. And then by the grace of God... Shit starting to shake. You feel me?

• 6:19Fred Taylor?

  You a Florida boy, too.

• 6:21Speaker 06

  Born and raised.

• 6:21Fred Taylor?

  Born and raised. Chan was just saying, but you from Orlando. He said Orlando not tough.

• 6:26Speaker 06

  Who said that? Why?

• 6:27Fred Taylor?

  He just said that.

• 6:28Speaker 06

  Why play with us like that?

• 6:29Channing Crowder?

  Orlando dudes.

• 6:30Speaker 06

  Okay, we go down there and tell some niggas like that. Oh, go tell them. Listen, I'm out of it. I left. I'm gone. You go tell, you go tell niggas in my city, they not tough. How about you go do that?

• 6:39Channing Crowder?

  You just be like.

• 6:40Speaker 06

  You go down to Pine Hill, you go down to Paramore, you go down to Mercer Drive, you tell them niggas right there, you niggas ain't tough. I want you to see how you feel. You go tell them. Go tell them.

• 6:48Channing Crowder?

  Y'all be like, Orlando.

• 6:51Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 6:52Channing Crowder?

  That's Disney.

• 6:53Speaker 06

  No, it's not. I'm from the cuss. Had to stop myself.

• 6:56Fred Taylor?

  You cussing.

• 6:57Speaker 06

  Oh, no, the fuck it's not. No, it's not. Disney's in Kissimmee, man.

• 7:01Channing Crowder?

  Uh huh.

• 7:02Speaker 06

  That's Kissimmee.

• 7:02Fred Taylor?

  Yeah.

• 7:03Channing Crowder?

  Orlando got some.

• 7:04Speaker 06

  They got some shit. Nah, I'm removed. I'm a funny guy.

• 7:07Channing Crowder?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 7:07Speaker 06

  I'm a funny individual. You feel what I'm saying? We ain't, you know what I'm saying? We ain't pussy.

• 7:11Channing Crowder?

  Y'all do your thing.

• 7:12Speaker 06

  We ain't pussy. He not pussy. I'm not gonna say it. You know what I'm saying?

• 7:15Fred Taylor?

  He Florida for real, though.

• 7:16Speaker 06

  You know, we not pussy. That's like, that's the main thing.

• 7:18Channing Crowder?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 7:19Speaker 06

  Just know we not pussy.

• 7:20Fred Taylor?

  What was your childhood like prior to, you know, comedy and even that thought? What was it like, you know, growing up in Orlando?

• 7:27Speaker 06

  It was good. I mean, I had, my mama stayed, my daddy hate when I say this, but it's the real shit. My mama stayed in the suburbs in a white neighborhood, and my daddy stayed like hood adjacent. So I would go back and forth like a lot. And so, I mean, growing up, I just played sports, trying to find a way to stay out of trouble and shit like that. And then when basketball ended, I tried to jump into the streets. But that shit, you gotta understand, when you try to get into the streets at like 19, it's too late.

• 7:49Fred Taylor?

  Right.

• 7:49Speaker 06

  It's too late, dawg. There's been people outside, and they were like 12, 13, shit like that. It was no point for me. We just know when you try to figure out stuff and when you younger, it's like you just get lost for a second. But my childhood was great. I had a great upbringing. You feel what I'm saying? I love where I'm from. Like, I wasn't changed. I wasn't changed. I was raised for nothing.

• 8:05Ryan Clark?

  When you in Foot Locker and Cat's telling you, though, you could be funny professionally, right? Because like, there's some dudes that I grew up with, who I knew were funny, I knew they couldn't do stand-up.

• 8:16Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 8:16Ryan Clark?

  Right? And or make a career out of it. When people start to tell you you're that type of funny, what was sort of the catalyst to make you believe in yourself and leave and go to Austin and make sure this could be something you gave a real run?

• 8:31Speaker 06

  It was my dad. I mean, everybody in Foot Locker was, my dog Vince, my dog JJ, shout out them boys. Like, they really like, kind of put it in my brain that I could do it. But it was really my pops. Like, I was 19 in Foot Locker, 19 or 20. I would just tell basketball stories, cause I had a crazy basketball coach. I would just tell them stories all day, cause the Foot Locker was empty. So I would tell them stories like, throughout the whole day. And they were like, "Man, you gotta try. You just gotta try." And so, I tried when I was 19. My mom came up to me the first time, and I just didn't. I didn't like the embrace I got from like, all the other comedians. I just didn't feel like, they were trying to help me out. So I didn't do it again until I was 22. And I remember like, man, I was just, I used to tell this story on stage, cause it was really shit. You know, when you was younger, I mean, y'all boys was in the league, y'all boys was... But for niggas who ain't, the dream ain't come true for real.

• 9:15Speaker 06

  You get to a point where it's like, I don't know what I'm gonna do with my life. Like, I was just so, I was just so lost and confused. So when I got to 22, I was smoking every day, not doing nothing productive. Like, I was trying to do some other shit, but it wasn't like, going right. You feel me? One day, I got on my knees and I prayed. I was like, "God, if you would let me find my passion, I'll go as hard as I can at it." And I remember going to my mom and just saying, like, "I think I'm gonna try stand-up." And no disrespect to my momma, but she just didn't. At the time, she didn't see it, cause like, you know what I'm saying? I'm 22, I'm smoking every day, I ain't doing nothing right. And now I'm like, "Hey, momma, I'm gonna be a clown, just so you know." That's crazy. So she was like, "Man, go, you can't do that here." So she sent my dad a house, and I got on my daddy's couch. And I remember my momma had called my pops, and she was just like,

• 9:58Speaker 06

  "You gotta talk him out of it, just tell him he can't do it. Tell him it's like a bad idea." And I remember my dad just going, "Okay, I'll talk him out of it, don't even worry about it. I'll handle it." And he hung up the phone, and he was just like, "Hey, if you wanna do it, I'll give you a year. Just promise me you go hard at it." And since then, we been, we been running. You feel me? So I'm...

• 10:21Channing Crowder?

  When was the click, though? Cause like, yeah, you wanna go, yeah, do some open mic nights. Like, everybody can do that.

• 10:27Speaker 06

  For sure.

• 10:28Channing Crowder?

  Your daddy said you got a year.

• 10:29Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 10:30Channing Crowder?

  What happened when your daddy was like?

• 10:32Ryan Clark?

  Okay, bruh.

• 10:33Speaker 06

  Nigga, when I hit that couch again, nigga, I gotta figure some shit out.

• 10:36Ryan Clark?

  But, but when did you not hit the couch again? When did you know that you?

• 10:40Speaker 06

  When I, when everything was like going, shit, probably like, when I got on Kill Tony, that's when everything started like to move, you know what I'm saying? When I got there, everything started like to shake for real. But I remember, I remember like, I was always like, I always believed in myself, dude. After my pops, I was like, you just need one person to believe in it. And my dad was, was going. My dad and my lady were the only two people that really like was on board, like with the, with the whole vision. And so when my dad believed, I was like, oh, I'm good, like I, I'll figure it out. It got to a point where I was staying with my cousin, we was staying in the project. I remember I asked her, she had like an extra room, and I was like, hey, hey, can I just stay with you? Cause my stepmom was like, you gotta find somewhere to go. After a year, I was doing good, but I was still like on the couch. So she was like, you gotta find somewhere to go. So I'm gonna go to my cousin's house, and I was like, hey, I can stay with you, cuz? She was like, how long do you need the couch for?

• 11:23Speaker 06

  And I was like, until comedy blow up. And I ain't give her no time, I was like, no, I just gonna, just, just, until comedy pop. Comedy gonna pop soon. And then, I was probably on her couch for like, three months, then I moved off her. And then, it, it went up, you know what I'm saying, it went up.

• 11:39Ryan Clark?

  And this is a question I have, right? With Tony.

• 11:42Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 11:43Ryan Clark?

  Many people in our community feel like he went too far with the George Floyd joke at the Kevin Hart roast. What are your thoughts on that? In being a, a black man, but also somebody who was around him, knows him, and it's really a huge part of why your comedy career took off?

• 12:04Speaker 06

  Tony changed my life, dawg, and I knew like him as a person, and his, his character and stuff. I mean, that's just his form of comedy. You know what I'm saying, that's just what he liked to talk about. I can't speak for somebody how, what they wanna talk about. But I know him, I know he not a racist, I know a nigga mama, dawg. Like I done been around, you know what I'm saying, all these people and shit. He helped change my whole life. So I can't sit here and be like, oh, he's a, I know the guy, he's not a, he's not a racist. That's just his form of comedy. I think everybody's form of comedy is very different, you know what I'm saying? I try to be an advocate, especially like for us, in white spaces, as best I can. You feel what I'm saying, nah, I'm, I'm, I'm getting older and I'm figuring out how to do that out. I'm figuring out how to do that, that better, but I mean, it's a situation where I...

• 12:48Speaker 06

  How I feel about a joke don't matter. Cause I know his character and I didn't know him as a person. You know what I'm saying?

• 12:54Fred Taylor?

  And recognizing that, what's like the biggest thing that you learned from him? Whether people agree with him or not?

• 13:01Speaker 06

  Not everybody gonna like you.

• 13:02Fred Taylor?

  Right.

• 13:03Speaker 06

  You know what I'm saying? I don't watch people hate that man since I met him. He's only gotten bigger. You feel what I'm saying? Some situations where like not everybody gonna rock what you got going on or like what you doing or how you move and stuff, but the people that rock what you gonna be there. You know what I'm saying? As long as them people still got your back, I mean, it's not. You know what I'm saying? What you gotta worry about everything else for? Cause I mean, online is online, but when you tell you know somebody like as a person, that's a very different thing. You know what I'm saying?

• 13:28Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 13:28Speaker 06

  And that's how I feel about, cause I, one thing come about the comedy thing, I know, I know it's a lot of like small beefs and all the other shit when it come to stand up. When it come to me, when it come to anybody that does comedy, if you fuck with me or you don't fuck with me, I respect you as a, as a comic. You feel what I'm saying? Cause it's such a hard thing to do. And I know how hard it is to, to one, blow a comment and then stay relevant. End the thing, you know what I'm saying? So, I mean, Tony just taught me just to, just to keep. Whatever anybody feel about you, how you, how they, how they think, what you hear or something, just keep running.

• 14:00Ryan Clark?

  We always talk about separating art from the artist.

• 14:03Speaker 06

  Hmm.

• 14:03Ryan Clark?

  Right? Or you look at athletes from the person. From a viewer's standpoint, or someone who loves to watch stand up and comedy, how much should we draw a conclusion about who a person is? Based on their jokes?

• 14:19Speaker 06

  It depend on the comment.

• 14:20Ryan Clark?

  Okay.

• 14:21Speaker 06

  It depend on, like, I don't know, like, me personally, like, a lot of my stuff comes from, like, real life, you know what I'm saying? Cause I tell like stories and stuff. But some people just like to go out there and just tell. You know what I'm saying? Just one line of shit like that. So it just depend on what kind of the comedy, I think a storyteller you, you can, you can learn from. I mean, like, like life experience and shit like that. But, yeah, it just, it just vary from comedy to comic, I think.

• 14:44Ryan Clark?

  Got you.

• 14:44Channing Crowder?

  And I was saying, funny's funny.

• 14:46Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 14:47Channing Crowder?

  Funny's funny. Do you think that way? Like, I cannot agree with the thought of it.

• 14:52Speaker 06

  Hmm, yeah.

• 14:52Channing Crowder?

  But I can see that joke was well-prepared. You looking at the art of the joke? I'm looking at the art of the joke. Where funny is funny. I can see how you well-prepared it and you hit the punchline. Okay, I'm not gonna laugh at it.

• 15:04Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 15:05Channing Crowder?

  Cause you got an emotional reaction out of me early.

• 15:07Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 15:07Channing Crowder?

  But I can see how that was funny. Is that, is that like? Is that the art of comedy?

• 15:14Speaker 06

  It's trying to make, damn, what's the best way to explain this shit? It's always sound crazy.

• 15:20Speaker 06

  Basically, I mean, basically, yeah, funny is funny. That's what I mean, you kind of hitting on the head on that. It's just like, but it's what you find funny. Like, what you find funny is not what he might not find funny. He might not find that funny, you know what I'm saying? So, it's all, it's all, it's like a spectrum. It very, you feel what I'm saying?

• 15:35Channing Crowder?

  Because I don't think the frat, that frat boy goofy stuff, I don't find that funny.

• 15:38Speaker 06

  And some frat boy love that shit.

• 15:40Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 15:40Speaker 06

  You feel what I'm saying?

• 15:41Ryan Clark?

  A lot of them.

• 15:42Speaker 06

  They love that shit, you feel me? So, it just depend on who your audience is. That's all it is. But, the game plan is of a comic, and I mean, everybody that I think jumped on the journey with me in the comic, in the words, they'll tell you, like, it's just like, man, just trying to find a way to craft the joke so everybody can fuck with it. You know what I'm saying?

• 16:01Channing Crowder?

  So, like you said, you need to know the audience.

• 16:03Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 16:04Channing Crowder?

  Kill Tony, SNL, or back in the tough Orlando.

• 16:10Speaker 06

  Yeah, they, they, I'm black, I put respect on them. Nah, you see, I respect that, thank you.

• 16:14Channing Crowder?

  Pull up a base on my boys. If you go back to Orlando, where them boys, them boys sticking.

• 16:19Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 16:19Channing Crowder?

  Do you write your set different?

• 16:20Speaker 06

  Nah, I don't change none of my shit.

• 16:23Channing Crowder?

  For anywhere you go, Wisconsin, California, New York, anywhere you go.

• 16:27Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah, I don't change shit.

• 16:29Channing Crowder?

  Your set is the same?

• 16:30Speaker 06

  I might, if I'm in a black room, I might try to get the shit faster. Because in a black room, you know what I'm saying? We don't really got too much time to be waiting around for you. Get to the, get to the punch, yeah, where it's at. White room, that give you a second to be like, alright, we're with you, buddy. Let's see, let's see where you go now. Okay, it was like that, black was like, alright, fuck, nigga, hurry up.

• 16:51Speaker 06

  I got somewhere to be, I already shit the fuck up. Come on, what's going on, you feel me? But that's the only, that's the only difference, though. I'll probably speed up a punch or get there a little faster. But I don't, I don't really change.

• 17:00Channing Crowder?

  Right.

• 17:00Speaker 06

  Hell, nah.

• 17:01Channing Crowder?

  Right.

• 17:01Ryan Clark?

  And black folk be like, man, may put my good clothes on.

• 17:03Speaker 06

  What? I got a house, I got me a babysitter, don't fuck around with me today, nigga.

• 17:08Channing Crowder?

  That babysitter, I already paid for two hours.

• 17:10Speaker 06

  I'm watching the kids and shit, I don't got time for this shit right here. Be funny now, nigga. Be funny now. Most of them talking about this shit too, with the situation, too, where it's like, you can, you can be crushing in a black room for like 25 minutes. You say one wrong thing, niggas like, oh, fuck him. I knew you was a bitch when you started. I knew, I knew, I didn't wanna like you at first, you got me, you tricked me. You tricked me for 25 minutes. Now, I knew you were pussy. You lame in here. You slip up in the white room, they like, it's okay, you got it. They support it? Yeah, you'll get it. You'll get it together, I believe in it, this is good.

• 17:49Speaker 06

  What?

• 17:49Fred Taylor?

  Yeah, nah, I think every comedian have their rough room, like you say, it's your crowd, right? I went to a show, T.I. show, and everybody sat back like, okay. What T.I. we gonna get? And they gave him hell, but then he got to a point where they loosened up, like, ah, he can be pretty decent at this.

• 18:04Speaker 06

  T.I. getting good.

• 18:05Fred Taylor?

  Yeah, he is getting better.

• 18:06Speaker 06

  T.I. getting good, I done seen him a couple times, I like T.I. stand-up.

• 18:09Fred Taylor?

  What's the best story that you have that you bombed? That you can actually laugh at now, or have you ever bombed?

• 18:16Speaker 06

  Oh, I bombed, I bombed all the time. What? I bombed a lot, the best bomb, I remember I, I tried to tell the story on my stage sometime, I remember one time a dude told me, and I never, I never recover from this. One time a dude, I was two weeks in the combat, 14 days. 14 days in, I'm jacking it started. And I just asked the guy, you know, I was like, hey man, what do you do for work? And I shit you not, he just like, I fuck your mother.

• 18:38Fred Taylor?

  From the crowd?

• 18:39Speaker 06

  From the crowd, like, no, he's front row, he looking at me in my soul. I fuck your mama.

• 18:46Speaker 06

  I was like, oh, okay, sir.

• 18:50Speaker 06

  Well, that wasn't, I didn't think that was a job, for real, I'm sorry. And then, I'm thinking we done, I'm thinking, oh, this is it, this is it. You fuck my mama, I'm trying to think of something, then he go, yeah, every Tuesday and Thursday, gave me days he did it. Like, I fuck on Tuesday and Thursday, and he said, and he was like, her pussy was bad. Then he gave me a review, dawg. He told me fuck my mama, he told me days, then he gave me a review, dawg. How'd you respond? I didn't. I didn't, I was, I didn't know. And stand-up is like a thing where it's like, you gotta be, you gotta come out with something funny. You feel what I'm saying? I'm 14 days in, bruh, I'm fresh off of doing what I was, I'm, I didn't have nothing funny to say to him. It was death and destruction, that was the only thing that was in my mind.

• 19:32Speaker 06

  So it was like, okay, I just gotta, I tried to recover and I just walked off stage. Did you actually feel?

• 19:38Ryan Clark?

  Like, did you feel something, though, when, when he told you that? Like, were you upset?

• 19:42Speaker 06

  And the crowd was laughing. So I was like, damn, how can, how can I combat this? You know what I'm saying? At the time, I just didn't have the, I didn't have the skill to do that.

• 19:50Fred Taylor?

  So he just ran him off, like, I f*** your mama.

• 19:53Speaker 06

  Going, going.

• 19:53Fred Taylor?

  And the Tuesday, Thursday. And the, like, boom, boom, boom.

• 19:57Channing Crowder?

  But we talked to, who's the, Mojo Brooks?

• 20:00Speaker 06

  Yeah. Love Mojo.

• 20:02Channing Crowder?

  Yeah, Mojo.

• 20:03Ryan Clark?

  His crowd, his crowd work's crazy.

• 20:04Channing Crowder?

  The crowd, that, that crowd work is where people are special.

• 20:07Speaker 06

  I want to apologize, he's amazing, he's amazing. He came to see my, he came to my show and, it's, it's up too, I, I hated this. I, cause you know, every, every, every now and then, you get like a show that's kinda alright. And I told him, he was like, well, he came to my show and, uh, Chicago just popped in. He didn't tell me, I just looked in the crowd, see that big ass chain he got? She was trying, oh, it's Mojo Brooks? And I'm, I was just, I was just having like a rough set. And I remember telling him, like, hey, man, I'm, I'm sorry, nigga.

• 20:34Speaker 06

  I just wanted to apologize, you, you came there, you ain't tell me you were coming, I, I, I'm sorry. That was really bad. I, I ate myself up, that, that for like two weeks, bruh. Hell, yeah, but I, I love Mojo, he, he great.

• 20:46Channing Crowder?

  That crowd, cause you have a set, but then if you start pointing, like you said, you pointed at that man, you don't know what they gonna say, and then get hit. And then you gotta.

• 20:56Speaker 06

  You gotta have something, yeah.

• 20:57Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 20:57Speaker 06

  I'm better at it now, but I mean, I was, I fought 10 days in.

• 21:01Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 21:01Speaker 06

  You feel me? It was just like, some shit you had, kinda had to learn.

• 21:05Channing Crowder?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 21:06Speaker 06

  But yeah, I mean, when it come to bombing, that shit happen all the time. When it kinda stand up for me, like, I'm really hard on myself. I think I got, I think you gotta be like your worst critic in a sense. And so like, I'm, I'm super, I'm super doable to myself, like this situation where, unless, I, I told, I was telling somebody the other night, like, I did a show at, uh, the, uh, the Comedy Store, and I just didn't, I just didn't like it. And I never blame the crowd, it's never the crowd fault, it's always me. If I fuck up, it's, it's, it's me, it's, it's not them. Cause it's, in, in my mind, it's like, somebody can come in here and crush. You feel me? It don't matter what the crowd like, somebody can walk in this room and crush. So I should be able to do that. If I wanna be the best as I, that I think I can be, I should be able to do that. And it was a situation where, only this, how I grade myself on stand up is if, unless I'm trying all new shit, and it's just like, I'm going up there and it's just like,

• 21:51Speaker 06

  I've never said none of this before, maybe I said like, once or twice, but it's not really like a foreigner joke. It's situations where if I'm doing my regular set, it's either I kill or I bomb, there's no in-between. You feel what I'm saying? There's no like, either I had like, if I did okay, I bombed. You know what I'm saying? There shouldn't be, there's no in the middle. I want to be great. So no situation where it's like, oh, man, like, that could have been better, but I ain't know it could have been. It should have been better. You feel what I'm saying? And like, like we were saying, like, when people come out to see you, they do get babysitters. And it do be like anniversary, it do be like date nights and shit like that. And so it's like, I can't have a night off of people that paid to come see me. You feel me? I want to give them the best so possible.

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• 23:06Ryan Clark?

  How important are first impressions in comedy? Because I know for me, if a comedy special drops and it's the first time I've seen someone, I give them like 15, 20 minutes. And if I don't like it, I'll probably never watch anything they do again. How much pressure is it on it when every time you're in those rooms, to make sure that that person who gets an opportunity to see you on date night or anniversary, whatever it is, becomes a cam fan?

• 23:35Speaker 06

  It's huge. I mean, all I can really do is go out there and do my best and that's up to the people, how they feel about it, you know what I'm saying? But I mean, it's, it's huge. That's why I think I go, I do, I do stand up down there every night. You know what I'm saying? So it's sense where it's like, so when people do come see me for the first time, it is like polished and ready to go. You feel me? So I ain't like, I ain't try to just bullshit and like lollygagging. Like I got some shit like, ready for them. You feel what I'm saying? Because I ain't get this far for no reason. I'm like that for real.

• 24:05Ryan Clark?

  I really don't know how Orlando schools work.

• 24:08Speaker 06

  Go ahead.

• 24:08Ryan Clark?

  But I watched you read your first time on Weekend Update.

• 24:12Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 24:13Ryan Clark?

  And it felt like it was a little difficult.

• 24:15Speaker 06

  Hey, let me tell you something. I don't know if you know this or not.

• 24:19Speaker 06

  But I was very excited. I was very, I'm gonna say it right now. I love SNL.

• 24:25Speaker 06

  I love it. But what I'ma say, like, really, shit, okay, we can update. It's five, bruh, it's, first of all, it was the first episode, that was the one thing I wanted to do when I got there, 'cause I ain't, I don't know what I'm saying, like, it was one of the biggest thing in my life, growing up, but when I knew, I knew, I knew we could update, everybody know we can update, you feel what I'm saying? So, it's my first episode, but I can read, I ain't no dummy, bruh, I can read. You feel me, I'ma say that first, first and foremost, I can read good, I'm a good reader, you feel me? But it's like, I ain't never, you, hold on, quick question.

• 24:55Speaker 03

  The dude that say I ain't scared is usually scared.

• 24:57Speaker 06

  Well, no, hear me out, no, did you, did you like popcorn reading in school, did you enjoy it?

• 25:01Speaker 03

  What's that?

• 25:02Speaker 06

  The popcorn reading, when you had it, they was like, okay, it's your turn to read, you like, did you enjoy that?

• 25:06Speaker 03

  No.

• 25:06Speaker 06

  Did you enjoy it? Popcorn reading, you did? Absolutely. I stu this ass nigga.

• 25:09Speaker 03

  I didn't mind, I didn't carry it away. I used to wait for them to call on me.

• 25:14Speaker 06

  Hell, no, I was never a fan, so imagine doing that shit in front of the world.

• 25:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 25:19Speaker 06

  You feel what I'm saying? So, the coolest thing about SNL in general is like, it's so fast-paced, that it gets to a point where that, that update that I did the first time, we've changed it.

• 25:28Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 25:28Speaker 06

  A million times. We did that table read and it was different, and then it got passed, it goes through, and then you do it on Friday, like, in the morning, no, everybody in their regular clothes, dah dah dah, you know what I'm saying, we just running it. Then you do it at dress, they change it again. Then by the time it airs, it's been changed from us, you need the cue cards, you know what I'm saying? And then, the cue card guy, I love my whole heart, but they, they got, they had that bitch doing the daggy between the cameras and shit. So now, it's like, I'm a kid who wasn't, didn't like to read for real, now we changed it like 12 times, you know what I'm saying? And then this nigga goddamn doing the goddamn electric shit, electric boogaloo and shit behind the camera, it's a lot, so I'm trying to,

• 26:08Speaker 06

  you feel me, I'm, but I'm get, I'm, I'm figuring it out, though, like, okay, so, that's one, my favorite thing about the SNL shit was like, I like, I watched, the first one I did was where I was, like, when I was kind of nervous and I was still trying to get into the groove and shit, then I watched the Mad one, I was like, I've gotten.

• 26:22Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 26:23Speaker 06

  So much better, and that, that's, that's a lot of help to, like, I mean, the people they surrounded me with to, to do a better job, but it was like, it was, that first one was, you know what I'm saying, it was, it was tough, man.

• 26:35Speaker 03

  You could read.

• 26:36Speaker 06

  I could read. I can read, I'm not gonna say it, I can read, I read good. And, what I learned too is like, being around, bro, you understand like, everybody around there been acting this shit since they was like,

• 26:50Fred Taylor?

  Yeah.

• 26:50Speaker 06

  Look, you know what I'm saying? I remember my first table read, we all reading around the table and shit. And, I'm watching everybody, and I'm reading like, I'm reading. It's a script and I'm reading it. And they getting into their whole like, the bag and the voices and all this other shit. And I'm just like, oh, this is a whole different thing. And so, trying to figure that out has been like the best part of the job, I think. Not trying to play like catch up, and I ain't racing nobody but myself. We just trying to like learn from everybody that is so good at the things that they do. You know what I'm saying? And being around so many times, I mean, because they cash that we got out there, they so talented, dawg. You feel what I'm saying? So to be able to learn from them every week is a blessing.

• 27:33Fred Taylor?

  Comedy is different. Sometimes the sensitivity levels of a joke can either make you famous, or can get you canceled.

• 27:40Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 27:41Fred Taylor?

  Like, how do you navigate between what might be borderline okay, or simply just saying, fuck it, it's my joke, it's a joke, deal with it?

• 27:49Speaker 06

  A lot of my jokes are like my hour, like family stories and like stuff I grew up on. So, in situations where it's like, I think I can, I can kind of speak on most of that stuff, because it's like, that's like my real life. So I don't really write too much stuff, because I don't really do too much outside of like, my life and like stories, and I try to tell stories. You feel what I'm saying? So, and I don't really think I say too much shit that can be crazy, like super insane, and if I ever like, and no, I ain't gonna lie to you, I done said some shit on stage where I been like, I ain't gonna lie, I done said some shit on stage, I'll be like, ooh, I can't say that no more. I could never say that again, you feel me? So I done said some shit on stage before, and I'd be like, ooh, hope nobody recorded that shit right there. God, we trying something, and it didn't work.

• 28:35Speaker 06

  And it sound crazy.

• 28:37Fred Taylor?

  Right.

• 28:37Speaker 06

  You feel what I'm saying?

• 28:38Fred Taylor?

  You know your DMs about to be crazy, you talking about the white bunnies early.

• 28:42Speaker 06

  What?

• 28:43Fred Taylor?

  The blacks chick, they finna hit you up now, they be like, ho, we gotta save you. They coming to get you.

• 28:47Speaker 06

  Come get me. I mean, I got a lady with it, and she black, and she dark skinned.

• 28:53Ryan Clark?

  She dark skinned it.

• 28:54Speaker 03

  That's my boy.

• 28:55Ryan Clark?

  You like, they all the way in.

• 28:56Speaker 06

  They all the way, they all the way locked in. Dark skinned it.

• 28:59Fred Taylor?

  So y'all on right now?

• 29:00Speaker 06

  Huh?

• 29:00Fred Taylor?

  You say y'all on right now?

• 29:01Speaker 06

  We good, we good, we good, yeah. Because she hate when I go on podcast, because she be like, you be going crazy on podcast. Like, I'm just being myself.

• 29:08Ryan Clark?

  Just being yourself.

• 29:09Speaker 06

  I'm just being myself. I don't be doing that crazy.

• 29:11Fred Taylor?

  Podcast with this one?

• 29:11Speaker 06

  Yeah, he a problem.

• 29:12Ryan Clark?

  Listen.

• 29:12Speaker 06

  I know about you, nigga. You are a problem.

• 29:16Speaker 03

  No, I'm the answer.

• 29:18Speaker 06

  Nope. That nigga say that the biggest problem. I'm the answer. Nah, you, you, you, you, you.

• 29:24Ryan Clark?

  You the issue.

• 29:25Speaker 06

  Yeah, he had the issue.

• 29:26Ryan Clark?

  You the issue.

• 29:26Speaker 06

  Hell, yeah.

• 29:28Fred Taylor?

  What comedians did you look up to growing up? Like, who encouraged or inspired you the most?

• 29:32Speaker 06

  Yeah, Eddie. Eddie for sure. That was a big one for me. My, my, my cousin Justin would play a lot of stand-up when I'd go stay with him. He would probably put on Cadillac. My mama did, my mama did something dope when I was younger that, I don't think she realized how cool it was. But I couldn't watch TV, like, on, on school days and shit like that. When I got a little older, she started letting me watch TV a little bit, but not at night. And then, when I got like, like, I want to say like 11, 12, I could, I could just watch certain, like, she was the modern times I would watch. But at some point, if she ever, like, saw Comedy Central on the TV, she would never turn it off.

• 30:08Ryan Clark?

  Wow.

• 30:09Speaker 06

  And then I remember, like, I remember being younger and seeing a lot of, like, Kev like that, seeing, like, early, uh, like, Laugh In My Pain, shit like that, when I was younger. So Kev was a huge.

• 30:18Ryan Clark?

  That brings us to now, though, like, you got an opportunity to work with Kev.

• 30:22Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 30:23Ryan Clark?

  Right? 72 Hours.

• 30:24Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 30:24Ryan Clark?

  It's coming out. What are those moments like for someone you watched growing up? Someone who inspired you in ways to have worked yourself into a position where you can now be a colleague of Kevin Hart's?

• 30:40Speaker 06

  It's surreal. I mean, I say all the time, bruh, it is just like a blessing to go from somewhere like where I just, I idolize this guy. I remember one time this girl talked, she was like, uh, I was in middle school, and she was like, oh, you think you Kevin Hart? And she was trying to, like, be funny. I was like, bitch, maybe. That's what I kind of do, whore. Yeah, how about that?

• 30:59Speaker 06

  Yeah, I do, bitch. How about that? Yeah. I mean, Kev was the blueprint for me. You feel what I'm saying? Even coming in, I watched so much of him. Sort of be able to work alongside him. And in my first movie, Nonetheless, I mean, I can't thank nobody but God. You feel what I'm saying? And then to be able to like come by, I pray a lot, dog. I pray often. And I pray for like very specific things. I remember just, I was asking, I just, one time I asked God, I just be like, I just, I want just like guidance to figure out like what's going on, how to navigate what I'm doing. You know what I'm saying? And then the movie popped up. And being able to watch him work was probably, I mean, the best day for me in my career. Cause I mean, he gave great advice. Said some dope, you know what I'm saying?

• 31:45Speaker 06

  And a lot of the time when he was saying dope shit, I was just so locked on him. I'm like, nigga, this Kevin Hart. But being able to watch him, his work ethic is like, I mean, it's real. Like, you feel what I'm saying? Like, he not, he not the guy he is. They for no reason. It's like a, he worked his fucking ass off. And then it's like, it'll be the coolest shit. We be in like a, he be on a, on a, on like a meeting or something like that. And then he'll come into the, to the, to set. And he'll look at the script one time, get into it, and then knock it straight out the park.

• 32:17Channing Crowder?

  Really?

• 32:19Speaker 06

  Like photogenic memory. Like crazy. And so to see how like, how he working stuff was just like the biggest, I mean, it was a blessing.

• 32:29Channing Crowder?

  And to see, cause we had him on. We had him on the show. Yeah. And like, same way. He walked in on the call, had his little earpiece in. He walked in, he talking. He went over there and pointed at the shirt he wanted to wear. He had his little, little designer, whatever it is, over there, had his social media people. Got off the call and was like, hey, y'all, we got 55. Y'all do this right, it's gonna go big. And he killed the podcast. But to see that side of it and to see how, you know what I'm saying? Like, how he works and why he's.

• 32:58Speaker 06

  A hundred percent.

• 32:59Channing Crowder?

  Kevin Hart, that's, that was the most surprising thing to it. But he could turn on.

• 33:05Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 33:06Channing Crowder?

  So he's having a, you having a business call about multimillion dollars. And then, now you could be funny. And then he can go on another million dollar business call. You, watching you.

• 33:18Channing Crowder?

  You could turn on.

• 33:19Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 33:20Channing Crowder?

  But you're not allowed, you're not allowed to turn off. It's something that I do a lot of times because I'm the charismatic, ha-ha, laughy guy. And then every time somebody walks up to the airport, I gotta turn back on.

• 33:30Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 33:31Channing Crowder?

  Is that hard to, you have to be Cam? The, the one that we see, you have to be him every second that you walk out the door.

• 33:39Speaker 06

  It's not hard, but it is like, I mean, that's just the job. You know what I'm saying? That's what you ask for. I mean, when I'm, when I'm home, shit, when I'm around, like, I'm, I'm very like, quite same, probably same, I'm quiet and chilling and shit like that. Because this, this is me. You feel what I'm saying? But when you, when you go outside, it's like, yeah, you gotta be, hey, how, what to do, what to play, you feel what I'm saying? Like, what, what's the game plan? But I mean, it's not, that's the job.

• 34:00Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 34:00Speaker 06

  You know what I'm saying? Sometimes you get what you prayed for, you better be ready for, you better be ready for it.

• 34:03Channing Crowder?

  That's real. Ready for that.

• 34:04Speaker 06

  You feel me? Yeah, yeah.

• 34:06Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 34:06Speaker 06

  And I'm, I'm, I'm ready.

• 34:09Fred Taylor?

  So with that though, since meeting Kevin and seeing how he works and seeing why, you know, he exude that much greatness and that it's not just luck, right?

• 34:17Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 34:18Fred Taylor?

  Because a lot of people see success, but they don't see the grind. But you got a chance to see the behind the scenes. How has that changed your mindset? And what have you done different, you know, in your approach to be a better comic?

• 34:29Speaker 06

  I, I think kind of just the, the same thing I've been doing. I mean, when I, when I met him till now, I was just like, I was doing stand-up every single day, even during the movie, like, and they take no time off. We was filming in Jersey. And I would, I would be out here like almost every night and then coming back to do stand-up. So I mean, he just motivated me to get the way he got. But now I just gotta like, now I think it's just about being like a better businessman. I, I think I got the funding down, but everybody say, every big comic can say it's, it's a, it's a, it's a business.

• 34:57Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 34:57Speaker 06

  You feel what I'm saying? So now I'm just trying to figure it out. But I mean, watching him showed me that like, that it's, it's just, you know what I'm saying? That's very possible.

• 35:04Ryan Clark?

  What's more difficult for you, Cam, in, in this space now? Is it the stand-up still? Is it SNL? Because SNL is, you know, it's part improv, but it's also acting and preparation. And then now you've filmed your first movie. What was the most difficult start to parts of your career? Stand-up, SNL, or movies?

• 35:29Speaker 06

  SNL for sure.

• 35:30Ryan Clark?

  Really?

• 35:31Speaker 06

  SNL was.

• 35:32Ryan Clark?

  What, what made SNL difficult?

• 35:34Speaker 06

  It was just terrifying. Like in the same sense of the word, it was just like getting the phone call and telling me that I was... I ain't telling nobody this shit. So the real shit was like, "Okay, I'm on Kaiton, I'm doing good on the show, you know what I'm saying? Everybody, everybody that fuck with me, everything is going great." It gets to a point where in your career, you gotta try to figure out like, how you would like to expand and move forward. You feel what I'm saying? And I think sometimes, I think people get lost on the fact that like, you gotta do the thing that makes you like scared. And SNL scared the shit out of me because I've never done sketch comedy for real like that and I've never done improv. And so I remember like when they gave me the call and told me I got a job, I called my mom and I like cried.

• 36:19Speaker 06

  Because I was like, I don't even know if I'm making like the right decision. Now, now I've been through my first season, I know exactly what I needed. Because I, I want to be really good when it comes to stand-up and all types of comedy. You know what I'm saying? And SNL gave me a shot to do that. But it was, it was the scariest transition for me because it was so uncertain. And it was something I've never done before. You feel what I'm saying? So I mean, it scared the shit out of me. But I think that's, I mean, I think that's really why I liked it so much. When it started to get better and I started like to slowly figure it out, it became a thing like, "Oh, I, um, you know what I'm saying? I think I made the right, the right choice." But SNL was definitely the scariest.

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• 37:30Ryan Clark?

  I read two different stories about you from the same people. And initially, they were really questioning you being a part of the cast this season.

• 37:40Speaker 06

  I was questioning myself.

• 37:41Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, you know, there's like, you know, because he curse and he uses slurs and I don't know if he could be funny without those things and all that. And then after the first weekend update, it's funny, we talked about it earlier, there's like, oh, he got it.

• 37:51Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 37:52Ryan Clark?

  Right? It's like, yeah, he's gonna have to sharpen some things, but you can tell he's gonna have the skills to acclimate to SNL. When did you start to feel comfortable in that space with people who have been doing that job for an extremely long time and been in the business for a while? When did you finally feel comfortable as a cast member on SNL?

• 38:15Speaker 06

  At the end, toward the end. The beginning was just...

• 38:20Fred Taylor?

  You were intimidated.

• 38:22Speaker 06

  I wouldn't say intimidated. I wasn't intimidated by it. It was just like, the beginning was, I just had to, I had to, had to change me a little bit.

• 38:30Ryan Clark?

  What do you mean, you had to change you?

• 38:31Speaker 06

  Because in going into it, I was like, I'm gonna be, I'm gonna go in there, I wanna play characters that are like me, I wanna do, you know what I'm saying? I don't wanna play no, all these weird ass, different characters and shit. But it's like, in growth, it has to be changed.

• 38:44Speaker 06

  You feel what I'm saying? There needs to be some change in when you're trying to grow as a person. And so I had to get out of the mindset of just being like, oh, I'm just gonna do one thing. And I'm not, but hopefully coming back the next season, it's like, I wanna do all types of shit on the show. I wanna do voices, I wanna do characters, I wanna figure out how to do that. But in the very beginning, I was very like stubborn to the fact of like, no, I'm just gonna do this thing. You know, I'm just gonna do me. And when you, especially when you go into a thing where it's like, it's a team, it's like a cast, it ain't just me. You feel what I'm saying? I think with stand-up, it's like, it's me, I'm up there by myself and I got myself and it's just me. But when you go on SNL, it's like, there's some people that got your back. You feel me saying in a space like that?

• 39:24Speaker 06

  So learning how to like work on a team was what kind of changed throughout the season for me.

• 39:31Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, I'm old, so I watched VHSs and DVDs and all that stuff growing up. One of my favorite VHS tapes I had was Eddie Murphy's Greatest Sketches from Saturday Night Live. And the thing I recognized the most is he was so many different characters that became iconic.

• 39:50Speaker 06

  Hundred percent.

• 39:50Ryan Clark?

  Right, whether it was like Mr. Robinson, James Brown, Hot in the Hot Tub. You know what I mean? Gumby, like whatever it is, he did all these different. Stevie Wonder singing with Frank Sinatra. He did all these different things and he was able to make them his own. But still, he stretched himself, pushed his boundaries. And then you saw it turned him to a person that could be 17 characters in one movie.

• 40:14Speaker 06

  Hundred percent.

• 40:14Ryan Clark?

  You know what I mean? So I do think him stretching himself there is what allowed him to be so successful in a movie career as well. So it's a good point you make, like I'm going into the next season trying to do more.

• 40:26Speaker 06

  Hundred percent.

• 40:26Ryan Clark?

  That's dope.

• 40:27Fred Taylor?

  But even also just to hear young people get it, like you get it. You know what I'm saying? Like you want to be the best you could be.

• 40:35Ryan Clark?

  Yeah.

• 40:36Fred Taylor?

  You know, you want to expose yourself to, you know, these opportunities. And to be able to identify that, you're not even 30. Like you got so much more road ahead of you. And I would always say exposure leads to expansion. That's part of growth. But also to go back on, when I hear you talk about learning to be comfortable in uncomfortable situations, it seems that you're leaning into that sport mentality that you had when you was much younger, which is only going to make you that much better in this space.

• 41:06Ryan Clark?

  Can I play sports, Fred?

• 41:08Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 41:09Fred Taylor?

  Yeah.

• 41:09Speaker 06

  What sports you play?

• 41:10Ryan Clark?

  I play basketball.

• 41:11Fred Taylor?

  Yeah, you talked about it earlier.

• 41:13Speaker 06

  Yeah, I was five.

• 41:14Ryan Clark?

  That's why I'm like.

• 41:15Fred Taylor?

  See, because he ready to talk about basketball.

• 41:18Channing Crowder?

  Jesus Christ, don't do Trump. Please don't bring out the basketball.

• 41:22Ryan Clark?

  I was waiting on it.

• 41:24Channing Crowder?

  I was all Louisiana.

• 41:26Ryan Clark?

  I was waiting on it.

• 41:29Fred Taylor?

  What you playing, Evans?

• 41:30Speaker 03

  You still, you still be hooping? No, hell no. Oh, okay, I finna say. I mean, I can go out there, I'll hoop you though. Okay, let's do it. I'm with that. Everybody, see, everybody wanna try me like I'm really not like that, let's do it, let's hoop.

• 41:42Fred Taylor?

  Where'd you go to, Evans? You went to, um, did you go to high school?

• 41:44Speaker 03

  My sister went to Evans.

• 41:45Fred Taylor?

  Oh, she went to Evans?

• 41:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 41:47Fred Taylor?

  Yeah, I know it was nice down there.

• 41:48Speaker 03

  Hell, yeah.

• 41:48Fred Taylor?

  But he squat 300 plus.

• 41:50Speaker 03

  I done seen him in the gym, it's weird.

• 41:53Speaker 03

  I done seen your gym video, they, they, you do a lot of this and that, a whole bunch of, you know what I'm saying, dilly dallys. This is dally dippin'. Don't y'all start. You be in the gym, when you be in the gym, just doing a bunch of weird ass shit.

• 42:05Speaker 03

  Gimme 60 ree.

• 42:09Speaker 03

  Gimme 60 10, it is. I was just on you the other day about the weird ass work. I seen him, what, huh? Hot, come on now. Huh. It's not great. A lot of, a lot of that stuff you can't do. Ah, you right, and I don't wanna do it. I don't wanna do it. He had the rope turning his little ankles. What you training for?

• 42:29Speaker 03

  Who coming for you, who looking for you, man? You never know what's gonna happen, Cam. Who, what's going on? Man, people be talking crazy on the internet, man, you never know what you might need to do. How this gonna help you? Nigga hit one of these, nigga. He gonna flip them hips on, he gonna flip them hips on the bitch quick. What you say, huh?

• 42:49Speaker 03

  Say something again, I swear to God. He see his little body, and he built like a bad woman? Hey, I'm not looking at his ass. You, you in the freaking frog, niggas, I can't eat. He built like a woman. First off, I'm not. Listen, throw some, throw some seeds on RC, get them arms a little thinner, he'll be fine, fine. Yeah, Jack. What you talking about, man?

• 43:13Speaker 03

  What you got going on? What I done start, I'm sorry, I apologize. Strange, ain't he? Oh, man. You see when he started?

• 43:18Fred Taylor?

  You can't open the door.

• 43:19Speaker 03

  He was like, you know, I'm, he got, he got really serious, like, no, I'm real, I'm real shit, no, like, you understand? He kinda like, he high waisted like a lady.

• 43:27Channing Crowder?

  He soft and supple, like a woman.

• 43:29Speaker 06

  If you put, you can't go to one.

• 43:31Channing Crowder?

  Look at Cardi B like a dog.

• 43:32Speaker 06

  Well, you go to jail, boy, you gonna be hell, boy. You go to prison, I'm just saying, look at him, look at him. Just look at him, though.

• 43:41Channing Crowder?

  That's how you gonna be sitting too.

• 43:42Speaker 06

  Real shit like that, I'm telling you, like, you see him?

• 43:45Channing Crowder?

  Damn, Cam.

• 43:46Speaker 06

  Don't say Cam, don't say Cam. Don't damn Cam, shit. Don't damn Cam, nothing. Hell, I leave, I walk out this bitch. I leave, damn, don't damn Cam, shit.

• 43:58Channing Crowder?

  But even if you mess around, like you said, you say slurs and say all that, you gotta turn, you gotta turn that off.

• 44:04Speaker 06

  Who said slur?

• 44:05Channing Crowder?

  No, no, they were saying, we're going in the TV.

• 44:08Speaker 06

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 44:08Channing Crowder?

  You gotta turn that off. Is that just a switch? Because I'm the same way, I cuss all the time, you know what I'm saying? We know how we speak, how we speak in the South.

• 44:16Speaker 06

  Yeah, for sure.

• 44:17Channing Crowder?

  Yeah, but then, okay, network TV.

• 44:20Speaker 06

  Yeah, nope.

• 44:21Channing Crowder?

  You can just, you'll never mess up.

• 44:23Speaker 06

  I ain't messed up, yeah, I ain't gonna, listen, I ain't, knock on wood, I hope I don't never mess up.

• 44:27Channing Crowder?

  But you can turn the switch off.

• 44:28Speaker 06

  Yeah, I don't think it's that hard, though. I mean, you know, I'm so new into it, I think people just take what they seen from me in one place and they go, oh, that's just him. But I'm, you know what I'm saying? I'm still trying to show the world what I got, for real. So they don't know all of me. So it's not too hard for me to get to one place and be like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, tied up in a button, I can go to another place and just be, you know what I'm saying, a nigga.

• 44:51Channing Crowder?

  You talking about the business side, though. Is that what you learn, like, from Kevin Nemo, is that? I walk in this room.

• 44:57Speaker 06

  You feel me?

• 44:58Channing Crowder?

  Then I can go on stand-up, then I can go on SNL. It's almost like compartmentalizing.

• 45:02Speaker 06

  A hundred percent.

• 45:03Channing Crowder?

  Your career.

• 45:04Speaker 06

  Yeah, like, I mean, stand-up gives me a great, a great escape from it. Like, so when we doing the show all week, I can still go out and do stand-up and then just be myself on stage. And I get back to that place. And like, when I say I wanna do characters and stuff, I still wanna be me, that's how I know I'd be funny. But also, like, trying to, you feel what I'm saying? Get into that bag of, like, what Eddie was doing. I think every character you play is gonna be a little bit of yourself. And if I can find a way to do that well, I think. Yes.

• 45:31Ryan Clark?

  That's the key.

• 45:32Speaker 06

  Yeah, for sure though.

• 45:33Ryan Clark?

  Have you ever crossed paths with Josh Johnson?

• 45:36Speaker 06

  I've been in his DMs though, we talking DMs, I'm sorry. I know.

• 45:39Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, it's crazy.

• 45:40Speaker 06

  But I'm not gonna lie, he DM'd me.

• 45:41Ryan Clark?

  He funny though.

• 45:42Speaker 06

  He funny, no, he DM'd me and I ain't hit him back at first neither. He DM'd me, congratulated on SNL and I ain't get it back till like, I think a month ago.

• 45:49Ryan Clark?

  Thank you, Josh, Josh over there.

• 45:52Speaker 06

  What?

• 45:53Ryan Clark?

  Josh. He's doing that freaky stuff again.

• 45:56Speaker 06

  Oh. Come on, man.

• 45:59Ryan Clark?

  I'm messing around, man.

• 46:00Speaker 06

  Nah, that nigga, you know, he funny. He funny there. But he do something that's so like, to be able to, he was putting out like, what, an hour and a half?

• 46:08Ryan Clark?

  He still does it, every week.

• 46:10Speaker 06

  Yeah, that's, he's a monster, dawg. And that's a different, I mean, he been doing it a long time, but I mean, he's the person where you look at what he doing as a comic and I just go, man, that's, it's just beautiful. My brain don't work like that yet, I don't, I don't know what year he got to when it clicked for him like that. I've been watching him for a long, I remember when he had the Afro, you know what I'm saying, on Comic Central. So I've been watching him for like, a long time, but this shit he doing right now was just so, I mean, it's beautiful to watch. As a young comic, just, you know what I'm saying, trying to get better, be able to watch him and see how his brain work when it comes to what he puts out is phenomenal, dawg.

• 46:46Ryan Clark?

  I've seen him on a ton of shows now. When we had him on the show, he hadn't done as many podcasts. It was like, he first got the job on The Daily Show, and I remember him sitting down with us and just killing it. Like, just, every story was great, his comedic timing was amazing, but the thing that he does really well, why he's able to put a set out, is because he talks about current events.

• 47:10Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 47:11Ryan Clark?

  Whatever happened during that week, he's basically doing a podcast on the stage.

• 47:15Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 47:18Speaker 06

  Oh.

• 47:19Speaker 09

  What? I'm sorry, uh, we're trying to, wow, are there stairs?

• 47:23Speaker 06

  Hmm?

• 47:24Speaker 09

  Stairs? I think we have stairs going.

• 47:26Channing Crowder?

  You're not sure?

• 47:29Speaker 09

  You don't know?

• 47:29Channing Crowder?

  No.

• 47:30Ryan Clark?

  Well, we shooting a show right now, so. Yeah, we filming something.

• 47:35Ryan Clark?

  No problem.

• 47:36Speaker 06

  You see, all the cameras go, I'm still gonna ask a bunch of questions.

• 47:39Ryan Clark?

  Just cut.

• 47:40Speaker 06

  I got more questions though. Nigga, the stairs! Where the stairs though? Oh, we filming something? I'm a white lady! The stairs!

• 47:51Speaker 06

  Where are the stairs at? When we doing the pod? I heard what you said, brother. Where the stairs at?

• 47:58Ryan Clark?

  Hey, she like, the time of year it is, man, in society right now. You gonna answer my question.

• 48:02Speaker 06

  Real shit. I was saying like that. Where are the stairs? Oh, nervous. We gotta find the stairs. Somebody find the damn thing. I think they over there, man.

• 48:09Channing Crowder?

  I saw the sign right there. I ain't gonna tell them.

• 48:12Ryan Clark?

  Kel, when Lorne Michaels said that you'd be part of the cast and new members, it was written about you that you were a black conservative.

• 48:21Speaker 06

  Yeah, I don't know. I don't...

• 48:23Ryan Clark?

  And I thought about it, because I thought about, I think about Josh's commentary, which is often about the current events, politics, different things like that. Do you feel like that perception is fair of you? And I believe it does have to do with some of your jokes and the attachment to Tony as well.

• 48:41Speaker 06

  Yeah. No. I'm a... Look at me, bruh. What are you... What the fuck? I had to look up where the conservative was when I seen that shit. Nigga, I don't... What? I vote for who my mama vote for. And if you see my mama, who the fuck you think she voted for? You know what I'm saying? Like, but I'm not like... And I don't know, it's weird. As like, in my, in my late, like, late twenties, and I'm 27 and shit. So, I mean, I should be more, like, into politics or what's going on. I'm just, I got so much running, bruh, I'd rather, I don't know too much. So, I do leave it up to my mama to tell me shit like that. But, let's be honest. It was shocking to read. Nigga, it's for you.

• 49:26Speaker 06

  Imagine me, oh, they just grabbing that shit, dawg. Because I know when they're talking about that, Trump had got shot. And I was like, ew, black as hell for that. Because that would have... You know what's crazy? So, Trump got shot the first time they got him in the air. I was in, I was in, like, Phoenix or something. And I was like, I was like, you gonna talk about it? I was like, shit, I don't, I don't think so. And I went there and I was just like, I just started going. And then it was, it was going well, so I said, fuck it, I'm gonna post it. And then people be like, oh, he, he's conservative. Nigga, no. The only job for me is trying to be funny. I'm not, I'm not, though, I'm not really political, but when the situation is like... Be fucking for real, man. Be like, be for real, dawg. You know what I'm saying? That's you sound, they sound crazy.

• 50:08Ryan Clark?

  Now, it was, it was a whole article and I was like, this don't sound right. But then I thought about the connections and different things. I was like, oh, people are just drawing conclusions.

• 50:17Speaker 06

  Yeah, that's it. They just reaching for shit.

• 50:19Ryan Clark?

  Yeah.

• 50:20Channing Crowder?

  But also, like, what, what was it? What Jordan said? Republican buy shoots too. Like, it's the both sides, but you kind of said it earlier where it's gonna have your group and you gotta stick with the people that mess with who mess with you.

• 50:34Speaker 06

  Yeah, but it's also like, bro, I'm not.

• 50:36Ryan Clark?

  I'm not political.

• 50:37Speaker 06

  I'm not political. And I, I think that's, I think that's like a, is it like a weird, I think it's like a weird thing to say, but it's like, my lady was like, I gotta start saying that. But I just don't, I don't look into the shit enough to, to give, to give the right opinion on what's going on. I don't know enough about it. You feel what I'm saying? So I can't sit here and tell you what side was going on and shit. I can just tell you one thing I knew. When my mama go vote, I vote with her and then she go pit these people right here. And I go, yes, ma'am. And then people go, well, that's illegal. And I go, I never said that.

• 51:12Ryan Clark?

  I get it.

• 51:13Speaker 06

  I never said none of that. Everything I just said, I never said.

• 51:16Ryan Clark?

  When you sat down, you made it a point to say, I love SNL. Is that because every time you tell a joke, like, I didn't really watch it. I had never seen it.

• 51:28Speaker 06

  People take me for face value. And it's like, bro, I'm a comic, bro. I be, I play. I be playing around. Of course I saw SNL, bruh. Of course, you know what I'm saying? You can't, it's some historic shit.

• 51:39Ryan Clark?

  Right.

• 51:39Speaker 06

  You feel me? So I gotta, sometimes when people like, I mean, especially in like a space like that where it's like, shit getting a little bigger for me, I do have to, when I say thing, I need people to understand. Like, no, I'm, I'm joking, bruh. I'm a, at the end of the day, like. You can say what you want to say about me or whatever, I'm a clown, bruh.

• 52:00Speaker 06

  Like, for real, like professionally, like, by the grace of God, I get to be funny for a living. That's all I'm trying to be. You know what I'm saying, I hope people don't take a lot of shit I say for too much face value. And try to make, you know what I'm saying, I just, one, I want to be a good person, I want to be a, you know, a good son, a great, a great brother to my siblings. And then, out of that, just a good human being. So a situation where it's like, bro, I'm, and a great comic.

• 52:25Ryan Clark?

  Right.

• 52:25Speaker 06

  So I'm trying to do all those things, bruh, so I'mma, I'mma rub somebody like maybe the wrong way, I guess, a little bit. But, at the end of the day, everything, most of the things I say, I'm.

• 52:34Ryan Clark?

  Playing.

• 52:35Speaker 06

  I'm playing.

• 52:37Speaker 06

  I'm playing.

• 52:39Ryan Clark?

  They don't let you play no more, man.

• 52:41Speaker 06

  And it sucks.

• 52:42Ryan Clark?

  Cause everybody get, but also too, we're in a space, everybody has an opinion too.

• 52:47Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 52:47Ryan Clark?

  And they got a microphone, and they can type. And so you're gonna get critiques and scrutiny's and reviews from everywhere. I think the biggest thing is to be as absolutely authentic as you can be, and that's all you can control. And in my opinion, that's what you've done. So that's the important part.

• 53:04Fred Taylor?

  Yeah, nah, you got a growing fan base, a growing hater base. It just comes, it comes with the territory. But from, from hoops, Foot Locker, uh, SNL tour, stand-up, all this different stuff, right? What's been your biggest pivot in life? Like, that's the moment you can look at and say, because this happened to me or for me, I am who I am today.

• 53:24Speaker 06

  I go back to my dad, I think my dad just told me I could do it. Was probably the biggest thing. And then him being on board, got everybody else on board. And then, I mean, him being on board just got me to the mindset of just like, I can do it. You know what I'm saying, and then me being, thinking I could do it, got everybody else on board, and now we, and now we running.

• 53:43Fred Taylor?

  Right.

• 53:43Speaker 06

  So I think, I think him looking at me and telling me I could, that he believed in me, was probably the biggest pivot for me.

• 53:50Ryan Clark?

  Cam, I'll speak for me. I'm from New Orleans. And when I go home, people are always like, "Where you from?" And I'm like, "Man, I'm from here." And like, "Well, you don't sound like it." And I remember when I got to ESPN, they got me a dialect coach. To teach me how to talk and to say certain things because I said them like I was from the crib. You know, and then every now and then, like, when we get loose on this show, I have people from home being like, "Oh yeah, that New Orleans came out." Or you can hit an accent. How much do you feel like you're gonna have to work on losing some of the Florida to refine yourself in a way to where you can accomplish everything you want to accomplish?

• 54:29Speaker 06

  Yeah, that's the biggest thing right now. Cause I got, I got kinda like a dialect coach, somebody trying to help me like just talk back. I mean, that's the main thing I hear is like, "I'm Florida to the death of me." Say it again one more time.

• 54:43Ryan Clark?

  I remember when they sent me to the speech coach, being upset. Right? Cause I felt like you were telling me the way I am isn't good enough. Right? Like, the way I talk, the way people from where I grew up, the people I love, it's not good enough for TV. Right? And then I had to understand, there's a way you need to be able to present, there's certain ways you need to be able to sound in order to be digested, comprehended. Right? And I was, I pushed against it for a while. I was just asking, how much do you think about having to change certain things about you that make you uniquely you, but also is not gonna be something that other people can gravitate toward because they don't understand it?

• 55:28Speaker 06

  It's about growth. And when, when growth comes, change. And I, I kinda felt the same way. And nobody really like handed me, was like, "You got a chance at your talk." Nobody that, that did that, nobody did that. But it's like, you can, you know what I'm saying? Certain situations happen, it's like, "Oh, I, I need to get better at how I speak so everybody else can understand what I'm saying." Cause that is the biggest thing that I hear about. It's people be like, "Oh, we don't, I don't know what he said." And at first I would hear that, and I see that comment, and I just go, "You ain't, you ain't listening hard enough. You should listen harder." But then I go back and I listen, and I go, "Oh, yeah. That wasn't saying shit."

• 56:09Speaker 06

  I ain't say shit at all, dawg. That wasn't a real word. I made that up, I think. You feel what I'm saying? So I think it's just like a... And it's not like I'mma change me. I don't think you didn't change yourself. You know what I'm saying? But I think to get more people to understand what I got going on, how I'm moving, I think I would have to change how I talk. And I'm getting better at it. Like, I'm figuring it out. So only but certainly it is... I will say like, my dog say all the time, be like, "But two years ago, boy, your ass, it was different." It was... I... Shit. It was... Nobody knew what I was saying. You know what I'm saying? So now it's like, I am learning how to, you know what I'm saying, talk a little bit better. But that ain't no issue for me, you know what I'm saying?

• 56:51Channing Crowder?

  What is it? Be comfortable being uncomfortable.

• 56:54Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 56:54Channing Crowder?

  It's kind of that thing where you gotta adjust. And I ain't understand a damn word you said for an hour.

• 56:59Speaker 06

  I mean, more people don't.

• 57:02Speaker 06

  You was responding to that freak ass nigga. You knew something to shit I was saying. You knew a little bit, goddamn.

• 57:08Channing Crowder?

  I caught a couple of them.

• 57:10Speaker 06

  Yeah, I know. You knew some of the shit I was saying.

• 57:12Ryan Clark?

  Man, we appreciate you, bro. You know, I feel better that we got it done, even though you didn't answer my DM.

• 57:17Speaker 06

  Hey, man, you gotta get off that. You sound like a lady, man. Aw, you never DM me back, but I'm here. We made it happen.

• 57:24Ryan Clark?

  I said, "I'm glad we got it done, man." Nah, I appreciate you, bro. And best of luck to you, too, man. And stay authentic. I know sometimes when you're trying to reach your goals and accomplish certain things, you hear the pushback and in growth, you try to do everything you can to fit in. But I think in your case, man, the way you do stand out is why people gravitate towards you, man. So keep doing that.

• 57:45Speaker 06

  Got to.

• 57:46Ryan Clark?

  So before we let you go, though, you know, you talked about it being your first movie, what you learned from Kev. Tell us when it's coming out, how we can see it, and just kind of what we can expect from Cam Patterson's debut.

• 57:59Speaker 06

  So it come out July 24th. Seven Two Hours, it's me, Kevin Hart, Marcelo Hernandez, Ben Marshall, and then Mason Giddin. And, I mean, you can expect like a good old... A good old-fashioned, already comedy, dawg. You feel me? I had... It was just... It was fun making that bitch. I ain't gonna lie to you. So it was like a good old-fashioned, already comedy. My character is a...

• 58:24Speaker 03

  He likable.

• 58:27Ryan Clark?

  Just likable?

• 58:28Speaker 03

  I mean, yeah, if I, any other way I said it, it'd get me fucked up. So he very likable. He very likable, he a good guy, he just, he just happy to be there, you know what I'm saying? Type of, type of guy that see a squirrel and go squirrel type shit. He just happy to be around.

• 58:43Ryan Clark?

  You know what that's all like?

• 58:44Speaker 03

  Huh?

• 58:45Ryan Clark?

  Maybe a guy that's gangfully employed.

• 58:49Ryan Clark?

  He didn't have a lot of sketches, but he getting more. They say he getting better every week, you know what I'm saying? Playing crazy.

• 58:57Speaker 03

  Man, we're a free station.

• 58:58Ryan Clark?

  Thank y'all so much. They so say he getting better every week.

• 59:01Speaker 03

  He getting better every week.

• 59:03Ryan Clark?

  Thank y'all so much.

• 59:04Speaker 03

  Thank you so much.

• 59:05Ryan Clark?

  You funny as hell.

• 59:06Speaker 03

  Hey, thank you.

• 59:06Ryan Clark?

  Y'all, bro, I had a good time, bro. You funny as hell.