#2227 - Adrienne Iapalucci

Adrienne Iapalucci is a standup comic. Her Netflix special "The Dark Queen" premieres on November 12. www.adrienneiapalucci.com https://www.netflix.com/title/81900915 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:01Speaker 00

  The Joe Rogan Experience.

• 0:13Joe Rogan?

  That shirt.

• 0:14Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 0:14Joe Rogan?

  It's pretty tight.

• 0:16Speaker 02

  Is it tight, you mean?

• 0:17Joe Rogan?

  No, no, nice, like tight.

• 0:18Speaker 02

  Nice.

• 0:19Joe Rogan?

  Nice.

• 0:21Speaker 02

  I feel like they're gonna sue me.

• 0:23Joe Rogan?

  For the shirt?

• 0:24Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 0:24Joe Rogan?

  Do you sell it?

• 0:25Speaker 02

  I'm trying to.

• 0:26Joe Rogan?

  I don't think they want to sue anybody. I think they want to keep it on the DL, especially you, because you could just go on podcasts and talk about it.

• 0:32Speaker 02

  Not if I'm dead. I could talk about it till I'm dead.

• 0:37Joe Rogan?

  Let's see, if they haven't killed, there's so many, if they haven't killed malice, there's so many people that they haven't killed.

• 0:44Speaker 02

  I'd be a fun kill, though. They just come to the Bronx. It's like so easy to just kill me.

• 0:49Joe Rogan?

  Right, anybody gets killed in the Bronx. Happens all the time.

• 0:53Speaker 02

  And nobody cares.

• 0:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, probably.

• 0:56Speaker 02

  They don't care.

• 0:56Joe Rogan?

  Few people would be upset, and then it would go away.

• 0:58Speaker 02

  My mom.

• 0:59Joe Rogan?

  Like Epstein.

• 1:01Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:01Joe Rogan?

  That kind of went away.

• 1:02Speaker 02

  It did go away.

• 1:03Joe Rogan?

  The guy who tried to kill Trump, kind of went away.

• 1:06Speaker 02

  It did. Well, didn't that guy get shot, though?

• 1:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's dead.

• 1:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:09Joe Rogan?

  But now he's gone. Poof, gone. No one talks about it.

• 1:11Speaker 02

  Do you think P. Diddy is in prison waiting for the Clintons to just kill him?

• 1:16Joe Rogan?

  Do you think?

• 1:17Speaker 02

  Every dad would be looking for them.

• 1:19Joe Rogan?

  I don't think the Clintons were involved with P. Diddy, do you?

• 1:21Speaker 02

  No, but Epstein.

• 1:24Joe Rogan?

  Was Epstein involved with P. Diddy?

• 1:26Speaker 02

  No, I just feel like these pedophile rings have to cross points, you know, at some point.

• 1:31Joe Rogan?

  The P. Diddy thing sounds like just complete unchecked depravity. Like, I don't even think he was gay. He was just fucking guys. Maybe he's gay, but it seems like he's just depraved.

• 1:45Speaker 02

  Because then he would just be fucking women.

• 1:46Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, for sure, at least for like 10 minutes.

• 1:48Speaker 02

  He's at least bi.

• 1:52Joe Rogan?

  Well, I mean, it might just be whatever drugs are taken. Like, I don't understand it. When that whole, like, I, I think I had peripherally heard that P. Diddy had big parties, but I never heard of freak-offs or any, I never heard of that stuff until pretty recently, like, post-pandemic. I think, Jamie, when did you first hear about, like, P. Diddy parties?

• 2:19Speaker 02

  I mean, I would think that he, I've heard about him having big parties.

• 2:21Joe Rogan?

  Your mic has to be off because of Carl's breathing.

• 2:24Speaker 03

  He's breathing pretty heavy still right now. I'm just trying to keep it down.

• 2:26Speaker 02

  Oh my god, he's so cute.

• 2:27Joe Rogan?

  He's adorable. Carl and Marshall, they, they go at it.

• 2:31Speaker 03

  Uh, first time I heard, I don't know. I've heard of, I don't even know what rumors I would have heard. I just heard, like, you know.

• 2:36Joe Rogan?

  But it was not-

• 2:37Speaker 03

  He's got crazy parties. I didn't, he had nothing.

• 2:38Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it was never like in the zeitgeist. It was never-

• 2:42Speaker 02

  It's just weird too, because he always had the white parties where you have to wear all white and I just feel like that's the worst color for body fluid.

• 2:49Joe Rogan?

  Ew. Yeah, right? Just shit and blood.

• 2:51Speaker 02

  Maybe that's how he kept track of who he fucked. That person's already gotten it. That person's, that person's already covered in disgusting stuff.

• 3:02Speaker 02

  That's what he kept track of.

• 3:03Joe Rogan?

  There's so many horrific accusations involving, uh, young singers, young, like, children.

• 3:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's disgusting. He-

• 3:11Joe Rogan?

  It's insane.

• 3:12Speaker 02

  He makes R. Kelly look like a decent guy.

• 3:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 3:16Speaker 02

  It's so crazy.

• 3:17Joe Rogan?

  It is crazy. And meanwhile, the guy was like hanging out with Oprah, hanging out with Obama.

• 3:24Speaker 02

  Jay-Z, everyone.

• 3:25Joe Rogan?

  Everybody.

• 3:26Speaker 02

  I'm sure the Clintons were there at some point.

• 3:29Joe Rogan?

  Maybe Bill.

• 3:31Speaker 02

  Bill is so nice.

• 3:31Joe Rogan?

  I went one time.

• 3:33Speaker 03

  Was he?

• 3:34Speaker 02

  He's so ni- like, when I met them-

• 3:35Joe Rogan?

  So charming.

• 3:36Speaker 02

  He is, and he's actually still kinda good-looking. Like, even for an older dude. Yeah, why not? He's still so good-looking and she's just so miserable.

• 3:44Joe Rogan?

  Well, she was publicly humiliated and she thought that her big retribution would become president. You know, become president.

• 3:53Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 3:54Joe Rogan?

  And then that would be it. All water under the bridge. I'm a strong woman. I'm running this country. And then, and America was like, nah.

• 4:01Speaker 02

  I mean, it doesn't matter what color you are, America does not want a woman in charge.

• 4:04Joe Rogan?

  Well, that's not exactly true because she won the popular vote.

• 4:07Speaker 02

  She, I mean, not, uh, Kamala, though.

• 4:09Joe Rogan?

  No, but Kamala was a terrible candidate. The difference between her and Hillary, it's night and day.

• 4:15Speaker 02

  Well, Hillary had a lot of experience too. She's been doing this for a long time.

• 4:18Joe Rogan?

  Sure. She was the Secretary of State, and on top of that, she could answer questions.

• 4:23Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 4:24Joe Rogan?

  Like, you could have a question on, with her about, like, what would we do differently if you were president about the Israel Gaza conflict?

• 4:32Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 4:32Joe Rogan?

  She would have something off the top of her head. What would you do differently than Joe Biden? She wouldn't say, I can't think of a thing. She would never say that.

• 4:40Speaker 02

  No.

• 4:41Joe Rogan?

  Kamala Harris is just not good.

• 4:43Speaker 02

  She's definitely not good at interviewing either.

• 4:45Joe Rogan?

  No, I mean, I don't know if she's good at running things, because you'd have to be behind the scenes to see how that works.

• 4:51Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 4:52Joe Rogan?

  But when it comes to, like, talking off the top of her head, what she's good at is a pre-rehearsed speech that she reads off a teleprompter.

• 5:01Speaker 02

  Sure, but if someone asks you a rogue question, then you have to be ready to answer it.

• 5:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, when, rogue questions, like, you have to be able to say what differentiates you from Biden. You have to. That's like a, that's pretty simple.

• 5:15Speaker 02

  You're just like, well, I'm still alive.

• 5:17Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that too. That would be funny if she said that.

• 5:19Speaker 02

  Right, that's what she should do. If she could be funny, people would love a funny person.

• 5:23Joe Rogan?

  I can answer questions. I can look you in the eye.

• 5:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 5:25Joe Rogan?

  I remember what I'm talking about. Yes.

• 5:27Speaker 02

  I was surprised she didn't come on the podcast a little bit.

• 5:31Joe Rogan?

  It seems like, and this is all reports, these are all anecdotal reports, right, but it seems like her campaign was kind of chaotic. Like, no one could make a decision. They had, I don't know how many conversations with my folks.

• 5:46Speaker 02

  Right.

• 5:47Joe Rogan?

  But multiple conversations, giving different dates, different times, different this, different that, and we knew that she was going to be in Texas. So I said, "Open invitation."

• 5:56Speaker 02

  Right, you said you can come whenever you want.

• 5:58Joe Rogan?

  Anytime. You pick a time, I will be here.

• 6:01Speaker 02

  And you would have been the best person for her to talk to, because you're not going to attack her. You would just ask her questions, but that's the problem. I don't know if she'd be able to answer those questions.

• 6:08Joe Rogan?

  I'll ask her questions, but I think they had requirements on things that she didn't want to talk about. She didn't want to talk about marijuana legalization, which I thought was hilarious.

• 6:15Speaker 02

  Why?

• 6:16Joe Rogan?

  Like, that's so, because of her prosecuting record.

• 6:19Speaker 02

  Oh, well, I mean, that is like, that was her old job, though.

• 6:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and, you know, she put a lot of people in jail for weed. Fifteen hundred, apparently.

• 6:28Speaker 02

  It's not really that many, though, fifteen hundred.

• 6:30Joe Rogan?

  Tell those guys, those fifteen hundred together in a room. No.

• 6:34Speaker 02

  Oh, okay. Then they're fine now.

• 6:36Joe Rogan?

  Well-

• 6:37Speaker 02

  Prison really builds character. You go in there and you really figure out what kind of person you are.

• 6:44Joe Rogan?

  I bet it does, yeah. But when you are held past your release date to fight wildfires for the state because Kamala Harris wants you to do that.

• 6:53Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 6:53Joe Rogan?

  With the swipe of my pen.

• 6:55Speaker 02

  Right, you guys are, I mean, it's not like the worst idea.

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• 9:47Speaker 02

  So just clean up the wildfires?

• 9:49Joe Rogan?

  Well, you should probably pay people for all work.

• 9:52Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 9:52Joe Rogan?

  You know, even prisoners.

• 9:53Speaker 02

  But that's just free.

• 9:56Joe Rogan?

  I got a problem with all that. I mean, I have a problem with slave labor in prison because it's essentially mandated.

• 10:03Speaker 02

  Right.

• 10:03Joe Rogan?

  You have to have a job in some prisons.

• 10:06Speaker 02

  But I mean, what else are you gonna do in prison?

• 10:07Joe Rogan?

  Read books, do pushups.

• 10:09Speaker 02

  Okay, but at some point, I'm gonna...

• 10:10Joe Rogan?

  Not have someone tell you what to do.

• 10:11Speaker 02

  If I'm gonna want to do hair, I'm gonna want to cook at some point. Like, you just do need a routine, otherwise the time... How many books can you read every single day?

• 10:19Joe Rogan?

  That's true. That's true. Yeah. How many yoga classes can you take?

• 10:22Speaker 02

  You just need a schedule, kind of, just to like, I don't know, that just helps your day go by. Like, even if you hated it, you still need... Like, when I was on unemployment for a period, I'm like, I'm actually very bored. You know what I mean? Like, you like it for a couple of days, but you need that routine to kind of like, I don't know, if I was in prison, I'd want a job.

• 10:38Joe Rogan?

  This is my fear when it comes to automation, AI, and then ultimately, I think everyone's gonna have to have universal basic income. I think all countries are gonna have to have it. I think the United States is gonna have to have it, too. And people need a purpose. They need a thing.

• 10:55Speaker 02

  For sure.

• 10:56Joe Rogan?

  They need an identity. And a lot of people identify with whatever their job is. You know, they find, they take pride in it. It means something to them to show up at work and have people say they do a great job. And you're very valuable to the company and you're, you know, the customers like you. And all that stuff is really good for people. It's good for self-esteem. It's good for giving you a purpose. If, if universal basic income is a thing, which I think it's going to have to be a thing. It's gonna be real weird psychologically for people to adjust to that.

• 11:24Speaker 02

  I think there'd probably be a lot of riots. Like, I don't know, what else would you do?

• 11:28Joe Rogan?

  Just riot with government money?

• 11:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was thinking Trump might not win and there was gonna be a bunch of riots. And I would be able to just get like a free computer. Like, I was kinda hoping for that.

• 11:38Joe Rogan?

  Well, you know, you can buy a computer, Adrian.

• 11:40Speaker 02

  No, I want it for free.

• 11:42Joe Rogan?

  Successful comedian.

• 11:42Speaker 02

  Listen, a free computer is better than a computer you have to pay for.

• 11:45Joe Rogan?

  Is it?

• 11:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 11:46Joe Rogan?

  Wouldn't you feel guilty at all?

• 11:47Speaker 02

  No, if they're rioting, everything's for free. That's the rule.

• 11:53Joe Rogan?

  That was the rule during George Floyd.

• 11:54Speaker 02

  But that's what I'm saying. During Black Lives Matter, I lived by a CVS that was like getting broken into all the time. I had to have like shampoo and conditioner for years.

• 12:00Joe Rogan?

  Did you go in there?

• 12:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, why not? I was in there when it was happening. I was like, well...

• 12:04Joe Rogan?

  You're gonna get arrested. Shh, don't say that.

• 12:06Speaker 02

  No.

• 12:07Joe Rogan?

  These are all jokes, right?

• 12:08Speaker 02

  Wink, they're all jokes.

• 12:09Joe Rogan?

  Wink is a lot.

• 12:10Speaker 02

  Listen, I was just supporting Black Lives Matter and that's how you do it.

• 12:12Joe Rogan?

  That's how you do it. You get shampoo for free.

• 12:14Speaker 02

  Shampoo and conditioner.

• 12:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. The most racist thing I ever saw was a CVS that had everything locked up except sunscreen.

• 12:21Speaker 02

  I mean, that's pretty much how it is in every CVS.

• 12:26Speaker 02

  And white people don't buy sunscreen because we wanna be dark. So no one's stealing it or buying it.

• 12:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Good, good call. The, well, they do if they're worried about cancer. If you're one of those people, it puts it everywhere all over your face. Meanwhile, you're putting toxic chemicals all over your face.

• 12:43Speaker 02

  People do that and they're like smoking cigarettes. It's like, what are you doing? Just get cancer.

• 12:47Joe Rogan?

  Well, I was reading this thing where they were talking about that, see if you can find this... So what this person was saying was that people who spend less time in the sun are more likely to get deadly skin cancer.

• 13:04Speaker 02

  Is it because your body's not used to it?

• 13:06Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you get cooked. You know, your body doesn't have any melanin, so you go out there and you get like fucking burnt to death and your body develops cancers. But also, you're not, you don't have vitamin D. So vitamin D is like a critical hormone and it protects you from a lot of things. It's, it's crucial for your immune system. It's crucial for a lot of different functions.

• 13:27Speaker 02

  It's also interesting because one time we were at the cellar and Louis kept telling me that I needed vitamin D because I'm so white and I was just like, vitamin, is that a real thing? It just sounds like dick.

• 13:40Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you need vitamin D.

• 13:42Speaker 02

  I was like, is that like a real thing?

• 13:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you're so white, you need some vitamin D.

• 13:46Speaker 02

  So you need to get fucked by somebody that's gonna help you.

• 13:48Joe Rogan?

  That's the only thing that's gonna help you.

• 13:49Speaker 02

  That's only, that's gonna keep me alive?

• 13:51Joe Rogan?

  Imagine if that was true. Imagine if like the only way you can maintain health is to get fucked?

• 13:57Speaker 02

  I mean, it makes sense. People that are homeless are just like fingering themselves all the time. There must be something to it.

• 14:03Joe Rogan?

  I think they're mentally ill.

• 14:04Speaker 02

  Sure, but they also are like, I want to stay alive. I want to prolong this homelessness.

• 14:11Speaker 02

  Keep me alive as long as we can.

• 14:13Joe Rogan?

  There's, there's a book I read, Fingering Yourself for Health.

• 14:15Speaker 02

  I mean, all of the homeless people on Sixth Street are just like fingering themselves constantly.

• 14:19Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there's a lot of that, that kind of activity.

• 14:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 14:21Joe Rogan?

  With homeless, oh, I think they just give up on shame, on everything and they just...

• 14:25Speaker 02

  I think you're out of your mind. You have to be out of your mind. Where you're like, who cares?

• 14:29Joe Rogan?

  There's this poor lady on Sixth Street. There's a gas station that I only go to if everything's gone totally wrong and I need gas for sure.

• 14:36Speaker 02

  You just run out of it.

• 14:38Joe Rogan?

  But you're like, you're there, you get out of your car, you're ready to fight people. It's a sketchy gas station.

• 14:42Speaker 02

  Oh, I guess.

• 14:43Joe Rogan?

  And there's this poor lady who, her head, instead of being like here, her head is like... It's like it's broken, her neck is broken.

• 14:53Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 14:53Joe Rogan?

  And so her head is like down here. And she has to look at you like this. She can't lift her chin off of her sternum. Like literally down like this and she's just a bag of bones, just barely alive.

• 15:07Speaker 02

  Like, okay, obviously, we're not gonna help homeless people, like, there's no money in helping poor people. Like, let's give them all fentanyl, clean up the streets, do the kindest thing we can for them.

• 15:17Joe Rogan?

  Ode them?

• 15:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, if I'm on the street for longer than a week, please kill me, it's not going well.

• 15:22Joe Rogan?

  Some people have recovered, some people have gotten their shit together.

• 15:25Speaker 02

  How many?

• 15:25Joe Rogan?

  I don't know.

• 15:27Speaker 02

  How many CEOs were like, I was on the street for years, and then I got some vitamin D, I turned.

• 15:33Joe Rogan?

  Well, how many CEOs enjoy life? That's the real question. I, just because something's difficult to do, doesn't mean it's good to do, right?

• 15:42Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 15:43Joe Rogan?

  Like, some people think that becoming extremely wealthy and running a major corporation, because it's difficult to do, that's something you should aspire to. But those guys all die young, they all have heart attacks, strokes.

• 15:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's a very high-stress position.

• 15:57Joe Rogan?

  Insanely high-stress, and the hours are insane, and you're probably fucking miserable, other than the time you're doing coke and banging strippers.

• 16:05Speaker 02

  Right. I think I would like the rich part, and then I would just do something with, like, animals.

• 16:10Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 16:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, I love animals.

• 16:12Joe Rogan?

  I know you do.

• 16:12Speaker 02

  People forget, but like.

• 16:14Joe Rogan?

  Well, I brought Marshall just for you.

• 16:15Speaker 02

  I mean, Marshall is so beautiful, like, if I ever go bald, I told you, I want, like, a wig. I don't know how white women are now, just wearing Golden Retrievers wigs, because it's beautiful, his hair.

• 16:25Joe Rogan?

  But it would stink when it gets wet.

• 16:27Speaker 02

  I mean, everyone thinks white people smell anyway, but who gives a shit? You remember the first time you heard that black people thought white people smell like dogs? You're like, we love dogs.

• 16:36Joe Rogan?

  I have never heard that.

• 16:37Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 16:38Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 16:38Speaker 02

  They always think we smell like dogs. It's like, that's, try hurting my feelings.

• 16:42Joe Rogan?

  Well, I guess if you're around dogs, I think human beings smell if they don't wash, that's all it is. Like, I don't think there's a difference in the smell of black people and white people. And this is coming from someone who does jujitsu.

• 16:55Speaker 02

  Sure, maybe not.

• 16:56Joe Rogan?

  So I smell people like that close when their chest pressed up against my face. I've never noticed a difference in human odor.

• 17:04Speaker 02

  All I know is black people think white people smell like dogs, wet dogs when they get wet.

• 17:07Joe Rogan?

  Maybe that's just like a fun thing to say.

• 17:10Speaker 02

  I think it's more than one black person saying it.

• 17:12Joe Rogan?

  For real?

• 17:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:13Joe Rogan?

  I've never hea- Jamie, you ever heard that? Jimmy never heard it.

• 17:16Speaker 02

  Well, I hang out with a lot of black people. Yeah.

• 17:18Joe Rogan?

  Weird.

• 17:19Speaker 02

  I'm like, that doesn't hurt my feelings. I love dogs.

• 17:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, dogs are great.

• 17:22Speaker 02

  They're amazing.

• 17:23Joe Rogan?

  If you're gonna smell like an animal, I mean, that's not the worst one to smell like. Cats are kinda crazy, cuz they never smell. And they don't even take showers. They just clean themselves.

• 17:31Speaker 02

  No, but if you get like one of those hairless ones, you have to like clean their nails and their skin and stuff.

• 17:36Joe Rogan?

  The hairless ones are fucking weird.

• 17:37Speaker 02

  They are, but I like them.

• 17:39Joe Rogan?

  Do white people really smell like wet dogs to black people? The smell comes from their follicles when they get wet. Hair follicles secrete an oil that spreads some- spreads somewhat when wet and a small amount of water gets in. Okay. Interesting.

• 17:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:56Joe Rogan?

  And that's from, uh, Cora. It's hilarious.

• 17:59Speaker 02

  That sounds like a white person.

• 18:00Joe Rogan?

  But that's hilarious. Go back up to that. Cora is one of those answer websites, right?

• 18:07Speaker 02

  Oh, I thought Cora like a black lady. See, you're a-

• 18:09Joe Rogan?

  Uh, gee.

• 18:11Speaker 03

  Look at all the Reddit posts that are- they say-

• 18:12Joe Rogan?

  I understand the Reddit posts, but here's my point. Cora is like one of those, like, you can ask it, like, how do you make a nuclear bomb?

• 18:19Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 18:20Joe Rogan?

  Like, that kinda stuff. And imagine if it said, "Do black people really smell like dogs?"

• 18:26Speaker 02

  What do black people smell like when they're wet?

• 18:28Joe Rogan?

  I don't think they smell any different than anybody, but the point is, you could never have that question on a question web page.

• 18:34Speaker 02

  You can't? They'll take it off?

• 18:36Joe Rogan?

  No fucking chance. But you could have it about white people.

• 18:39Speaker 02

  Could you ask it what Indian people smell like?

• 18:42Joe Rogan?

  I don't think you should. Cuz they'd have a record-

• 18:46Speaker 02

  But nobody cares about Indian people at all.

• 18:48Joe Rogan?

  Indian people do.

• 18:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, but you ever see what they're doing in India?

• 18:51Joe Rogan?

  Vivek Ramaswamy becomes president, you're gonna have a real issue with this.

• 18:54Speaker 02

  I don't even know who that is.

• 18:55Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 18:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:56Joe Rogan?

  You don't know who Vivek is?

• 18:57Speaker 02

  I try not to pay attention to what's going on.

• 18:59Joe Rogan?

  Good for you.

• 19:00Speaker 02

  I really don't know anything.

• 19:01Joe Rogan?

  Good for you. That's so healthy.

• 19:03Speaker 02

  I know, like, very little.

• 19:05Joe Rogan?

  If you can exist like that, it's a good way to be. You know, there's plenty of people in this world that are paying attention.

• 19:11Speaker 02

  I know. I'm not one of them, though.

• 19:14Joe Rogan?

  I don't have a problem with that. That's Ari Shaver too.

• 19:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's why we're good buddies.

• 19:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he has no idea what's happening.

• 19:20Speaker 02

  He's, I mean.

• 19:22Joe Rogan?

  You talk to him about laws being passed, he's like, "What? That's not real."

• 19:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, Ari's the best. He's like, Ari's, but he's also so autistic, which is why, like, him even producing my special was so good because he's so, like, focused and he knows exactly what to do.

• 19:37Joe Rogan?

  Very focused. Love stand-up as an art form.

• 19:40Speaker 02

  Love stand-up. He's the best at, like, not killing seats for the show. He is the best person for that.

• 19:46Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. Yeah, he knows how important that is. Yeah. His special that he did was, the Jew special was so ridiculous because they had to keep those candles lit and so they had to constantly light them.

• 19:58Speaker 02

  I was there for it. I opened for it. It was so hot and he taped it in June. It was so hot. I was on stage, I did like fifteen minutes, I'm like, "Oh, it's really hot in here."

• 20:08Joe Rogan?

  Boy, there's a fire behind you.

• 20:09Speaker 02

  I know.

• 20:10Joe Rogan?

  You think about all those candles? How much fire is that? That's a lot of fire.

• 20:14Speaker 02

  It's crazy. It was a crazy amount.

• 20:16Joe Rogan?

  Did they have, like, fire extinguishers standing by in case some shit went sideways?

• 20:19Speaker 02

  Probably. I'm sure there was some, like, there might have been a fire marshal they had to hire just to make sure.

• 20:24Joe Rogan?

  Probably.

• 20:25Speaker 02

  But even if the whole place goes on fire, what's he gonna do? He's like, "Well, there's a fire."

• 20:29Joe Rogan?

  What's he gonna do? He's gonna run away.

• 20:30Speaker 02

  Right, so what is he gonna do? Like, I mean, you would need so many, uh, fire extinguishers.

• 20:35Joe Rogan?

  No, they're little tiny fires. They're a bunch of little itty-bitty fires. There's not like one major, eh, all-consuming fire.

• 20:43Speaker 02

  What if I get to hold of, like, eh, the curtain?

• 20:46Joe Rogan?

  Eh. If you have fire extinguishers, how far back was the curtain from that? Was there a curtain at all?

• 20:51Speaker 02

  I'm pretty sure there's a curtain. I'm pretty sure there's a curtain, yeah. It, I mean, it looks beautiful, though.

• 20:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's not as easy to light things on fire as you'd think. And if fire marshals are standing by with a fire extinguisher, they put that shit out real quick. And that would actually be kinda funny.

• 21:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 21:04Joe Rogan?

  They'd probably keep that on the show.

• 21:05Speaker 02

  That'd be fun, if there was a fire.

• 21:08Joe Rogan?

  Put your fucking candles on stage.

• 21:10Speaker 02

  That'd be amazing.

• 21:11Joe Rogan?

  Well, he was running that special for, forever, for a long time. And then, you know, the whole Kobe thing happened and he stopped and then he came back.

• 21:21Speaker 02

  What's crazy, I was with him in, um, I guess it was Charlotte when the whole Kobe thing happened and I, he was sick. I was like, "Oh, just, we were on the road." I was like, "Just go to sleep." And then I wake up and I'm like, "What did you do?"

• 21:35Speaker 02

  I was like, you're sick, you're supposed to go to sleep. And then I was like, oh, Ari. And then the funniest part is people were like, we're gonna kick your ass if you're ever in North Carolina. And he's like, I'm there. They're like, all right, well, if you come to where I'm at, we're gonna kick your ass.

• 21:49Joe Rogan?

  Well, he was really into making fun of people when they died because everybody was like really kind to people when they die. And, and he was always like, fuck them. And some of them were really funny. The Kobe one was not. But some of them were really funny.

• 22:03Speaker 02

  Sure. I also don't think he knew, like, he didn't know, like, the daughter was there. Like, he was just...

• 22:08Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 22:08Speaker 02

  He was just doing it about Kobe.

• 22:11Joe Rogan?

  Jimmy, your microphone is rubbing. Oh, um, yeah, I, but just, he doesn't do that anymore, thank God.

• 22:20Speaker 02

  What's funny is the Uber came to pick us up the next day and it's like, just like a black dude picking us up. And he's like, I gotta go to the bathroom. He takes us to like, a transient bus station.

• 22:29Joe Rogan?

  The Uber guy?

• 22:30Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 22:31Joe Rogan?

  Oh, God.

• 22:32Speaker 02

  And I'm like, does this guy know about... I'm like, are we gonna get murdered? The guy leaves for like 20, 30 minutes to take a shit.

• 22:38Joe Rogan?

  No way.

• 22:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, before we're going to like the airport.

• 22:41Joe Rogan?

  No way.

• 22:42Speaker 02

  He did. And I was like, this is crazy.

• 22:44Joe Rogan?

  I would've ordered a second Uber to pick me up where the first Uber was.

• 22:47Speaker 02

  No, we were ready to get murdered.

• 22:48Joe Rogan?

  You were ready?

• 22:49Speaker 02

  We were just sitting there.

• 22:50Joe Rogan?

  The time is now. If this is my fate.

• 22:53Speaker 02

  This is my fate, we're dying right now.

• 22:54Joe Rogan?

  Imagine if you die because Ari Shaffir decides... First of all, for the longest time, Ari realized that he could not have a phone because he would be addicted to social media and it was terrible for his mental health.

• 23:06Speaker 02

  And that's what happened.

• 23:07Joe Rogan?

  And so he had a flip phone forever.

• 23:09Speaker 02

  Oh, I know.

• 23:10Joe Rogan?

  And I was like, good for you. Like, David Tell still has a flip phone.

• 23:13Speaker 02

  He does.

• 23:13Joe Rogan?

  And it's brilliant. Like, the people that do it, Sebastian Younger, he came in here, he still has a flip phone. There's people that, that rock a flip phone.

• 23:21Speaker 02

  If he would've not had that flip phone, he wouldn't have done the Kobe stuff.

• 23:24Joe Rogan?

  Oh, 100%. But I think things like that ultimately are good.

• 23:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, he's not, he doesn't regret it. If you talk to him.

• 23:32Joe Rogan?

  He shouldn't have done it, right? But he, now he knows he shouldn't have done it and that's just another layer of experience in life and just overcoming this horrific cancellation.

• 23:42Speaker 02

  Should he not have done it, though?

• 23:45Joe Rogan?

  In hindsight? Yeah, I think he's probably, it's probably not a good thing to do. To mock a guy and his daughter dying.

• 23:52Speaker 02

  But he didn't mock the daughter, he just mocked him.

• 23:54Joe Rogan?

  True, yeah.

• 23:57Speaker 02

  So, I asked him, I'm like, "Do you regret doing it?" He's like, "No."

• 24:00Joe Rogan?

  Of course he's.

• 24:01Speaker 02

  And nobody, nobody really, like, people were upset, that's the whole thing with cancellations, people are upset for like, two, three days and then they forget.

• 24:06Joe Rogan?

  Well, especially in this new cycle. This new cycle is so crazy. It's just, no matter what happens, there's always something right around the corner that just covers it up.

• 24:15Speaker 02

  Just a new thing to get upset about.

• 24:17Joe Rogan?

  Another wave comes in and you no longer, it fades. Whatever it is.

• 24:22Speaker 02

  Bridges, let me know, think about the FEMA person who got fired, because if you had a Trump, yeah, if you had like a Trump thing on your...

• 24:29Joe Rogan?

  Can you imagine that?

• 24:30Speaker 02

  I know, but it's like, if you have any signs, that means your house didn't get hit hard by a hurricane.

• 24:36Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 24:37Speaker 02

  Come on.

• 24:38Joe Rogan?

  No, because you could have a Biden sign. Look, it doesn't matter.

• 24:40Speaker 02

  Right, any sign, but that's what I'm saying, if you have any sign...

• 24:43Joe Rogan?

  Depends on how the sign was secured. Depends entirely on how the sign was secured.

• 24:45Speaker 02

  If your roof came off, you think that sign's gonna be there?

• 24:47Joe Rogan?

  Bottom line is, that's not what she was saying. What she was saying is avoid all houses that have a Trump sign. You cannot do that.

• 24:55Speaker 02

  Oh, I know, but I'm just saying, what's funny to me is like, if you have a sign and it didn't lift off the ground, like, how hard was your house hit?

• 25:03Joe Rogan?

  Your house could have been completely flooded, you have no power, no electricity, no running water. Yeah.

• 25:08Speaker 02

  I guess.

• 25:09Joe Rogan?

  Your house needs to be drained.

• 25:12Joe Rogan?

  Like, it's federal emergency management, it's not supposed to be federal emergency management for whoever this one person who's in charge with ideologically agrees with.

• 25:21Speaker 02

  Absolutely, I don't, I'm, I was making a joke, like, if you have any sign there and it survived a hurricane, like, your house is probably fine.

• 25:26Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 25:26Speaker 02

  Also, I want FEMA funds to go to the Fire Festival. Like, that's all our money should be going through, is white guys trying to run a festival who fail.

• 25:35Joe Rogan?

  Do you know that guy's doing another one?

• 25:36Speaker 02

  I know, is it a, it's not a Fire Festival, is it?

• 25:39Joe Rogan?

  I think he's calling it Fire Festival 2. Is he? Yeah, and he's charging like a million dollars a ticket? His move is to just charge an insane amount of money and see how fucking stupid some people are?

• 25:54Speaker 02

  I mean, I love that.

• 25:56Joe Rogan?

  The whole thing was nuts. It's like, one dude, it's always like some guy who you think could be selling Bitcoin or a pyramid scheme and now he's decided to put on a music festival.

• 26:07Speaker 02

  Because he wants to be cool. You know what I mean?

• 26:09Joe Rogan?

  Wants to party with people.

• 26:10Speaker 02

  He wants to party with people.

• 26:12Joe Rogan?

  But didn't he get like famous people to go?

• 26:15Speaker 02

  I think a lot of people pulled out.

• 26:18Joe Rogan?

  At the last minute?

• 26:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 26:19Joe Rogan?

  Probably when they heard.

• 26:21Speaker 02

  No, but who was the guy that was like, was like, uh, not Jadakiss?

• 26:24Joe Rogan?

  Ja Rule?

• 26:25Speaker 02

  Ja Rule was doing it with him. I mean, if you have Ja Rule on anything, it's not gonna be well.

• 26:30Joe Rogan?

  Was Ja Rule one of the organizers?

• 26:32Speaker 02

  He, I think he was just like one of the faces of it. I don't know if he put money in it or not.

• 26:36Joe Rogan?

  Right, like he gave him a piece of it or something like that?

• 26:39Speaker 02

  I don't know. He was there. They brought all these influencers out and they, I mean, listen, if he, if he pulled it off, it would have been pretty good. I mean, he did have everyone post at the same time, like, what was it, that orange box or something? So like everyone saw it and they were like, oh, what's this? And then all these like rich kids are there and they're like crying. I mean, honestly, the Fire Festival was for all of us. That's what it was.

• 27:01Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 27:02Speaker 02

  For all of us to see all these kids crying in these FEMA tents and there's just, it was amazing.

• 27:09Speaker 02

  It was amazing.

• 27:10Joe Rogan?

  See if you can find his videos where he's trying to promote Fire Festival 2. So he's walking down the street of New York City saying that all, so many tickets are already sold and if you want to-

• 27:20Speaker 02

  I think they sold a lot of tickets.

• 27:21Speaker 03

  I'm looking to buy one and I can't find the website to buy them. Not that I want to go, I just want to see-

• 27:25Joe Rogan?

  Well, it might not even be real. He might be completely insane at this point.

• 27:28Speaker 03

  There's a lot of press about it.

• 27:30Joe Rogan?

  About Fire Festival 2?

• 27:31Speaker 03

  Yeah, posted on multiple websites. This was all happening, it could have just been a press release from, you know-

• 27:36Speaker 02

  Where, where is Fire Festival 2 gonna be?

• 27:38Speaker 03

  Somewhere in Mexico on April 25th through 28th.

• 27:41Speaker 02

  Oh my god, I hope the cartel finds out.

• 27:42Joe Rogan?

  This year?

• 27:43Speaker 03

  No, coming up, yeah.

• 27:44Joe Rogan?

  This year coming up, yeah. Wow. Who the fuck is gonna-

• 27:50Speaker 02

  Who's going to Mexico for a fucking Fire Festival? That's crazy.

• 27:55Speaker 02

  Just go to Cancun, it's so much closer.

• 27:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 27:58Speaker 02

  Fire Festival.

• 27:59Joe Rogan?

  Go to Puerto Vallarta. You don't have to go to Fire Festival. What's the place that all the kids go to? Tulum. They love to party in Tulum.

• 28:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, have it, have it there.

• 28:08Joe Rogan?

  I don't know why Tulum. That's not, that's like one of the major places where they have those Aztec ruins, I think, or Mayan ruins. I don't know why Tulum is like the big, it's like where like-

• 28:20Speaker 02

  Beautiful.

• 28:21Joe Rogan?

  Hippies and psychedelic people go, they go to Tulum. They do a lot of Instagram posts.

• 28:26Speaker 02

  I mean, that's all, everything's about an Instagram post.

• 28:29Joe Rogan?

  I was watching this lady and her boyfriend the other day, we were walking in the street and they had basically taken up the entire street. Because the girl was sitting on this like marble bench and she was posing and you couldn't walk in between the two of them and he was like 12 feet away from her. So there was like, like, what is this?

• 28:45Speaker 02

  You're just stopping.

• 28:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 28:46Speaker 02

  I would have went right through them.

• 28:47Joe Rogan?

  And it was a long photo shoot, like it went on for a couple of minutes. It was fucking stupid as shit. She kept changing her, her pose and her face and the angle that he photographed her at. I wanted to take his phone away, like, hey fuckhead, get out of the way.

• 29:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, they do that. I was in CVS and they, they were doing a sketch and everyone was like, you gotta get out of here.

• 29:06Joe Rogan?

  A sketch in CVS?

• 29:07Speaker 02

  There's a bunch of people with cameras and they were trying to do a sketch and they were screaming and this girl was like, this girl behind the counter is a nice girl and she's also like a little bit slow, so she's trying to get these people out of there. It's just like chaos.

• 29:21Speaker 02

  I get why people steal in CVS because nobody helps you and you're like, I will just steal. It's just, you're better off stealing than waiting there for somebody to come help you. It's just a nightmare.

• 29:31Joe Rogan?

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• 31:14Speaker 02

  An eye wound?

• 31:14Joe Rogan?

  Odd, some odd, like something like their head looks oddly shaping, like they got hit with a brick, like something off.

• 31:20Speaker 02

  Well, that's where veterans go to work. They send you back.

• 31:23Joe Rogan?

  To CVS? Really?

• 31:25Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 31:25Joe Rogan?

  No, you're just making that up?

• 31:27Speaker 02

  I make a lot of stuff up.

• 31:28Joe Rogan?

  There's so many of these fucking sketches and pranks that people are doing now on YouTube. It's like, everybody, if you look at kids today, like they did some sort of a survey where they asked kids, like, what do you want to be when you grow up? And most of them said famous.

• 31:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, if you get famous, opening like unboxing videos. Like, I mean, if you could do that, why wouldn't you want to do that? I mean, I'd have a kid just to see if they could do that.

• 31:55Joe Rogan?

  Well, you know that kid on TikTok, Keith Lee? Do you know who he is? He just reviews food?

• 31:59Speaker 02

  No.

• 31:59Joe Rogan?

  With a sort of a monotone voice? He's actually brothers with a, he was an MMA fighter himself. And he's brothers with Kevin Lee, who was a top UFC contender at one point in time. And he just does these like, sort of monotone videos where he reviews food.

• 32:14Speaker 02

  Is he like?

• 32:15Joe Rogan?

  Super, super popular.

• 32:16Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 32:17Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Like how many?

• 32:18Speaker 02

  It's like, why even go to school if you could just unbox a video?

• 32:21Joe Rogan?

  One of a kind study shows that 27 million paid creators operating in the US. 11.6 billion of them working full-time as creators. Wow.

• 32:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, it's like-

• 32:32Joe Rogan?

  Is that a number one job?

• 32:33Speaker 02

  If you're from another country and you're like, "Why don't we just bomb America?"

• 32:37Joe Rogan?

  Wait, that might be-

• 32:39Speaker 02

  That's crazy.

• 32:40Joe Rogan?

  Isn't the number one job driving vehicles in the United States? Which is one of the things they're really worried about when it comes to automation, because that's one of the first jobs that's gonna go.

• 32:49Speaker 02

  I've seen those cars where they're operating, there's no one operating them and they're just driving.

• 32:52Joe Rogan?

  There you go. They're weird. Okay, number one occupation, retail salesperson is 3 million. Home and health personal care is 3 million as well. Three, both of them are 3,700,000. General and operations managers, 3,500,000. Fast food counter workers, 3,400,000. Showmall?

• 33:11Speaker 02

  What's interesting is-

• 33:12Joe Rogan?

  16 more rows?

• 33:12Speaker 02

  The retail and the home health aides, they're the same people doing both jobs because they can't afford to live. Just one job.

• 33:19Joe Rogan?

  So drivers isn't even in the top 10. That's interesting. I thought it was like number one of the top ones. So cooks is 2,700,000 and that's number 10. Stalkers, order fillers, 2,800,000.

• 33:32Joe Rogan?

  Um, and so influencers was what, 1 million? That's what it was? 1-

• 33:36Speaker 03

  11.

• 33:37Joe Rogan?

  1 point, 11, oh 11? Wait a minute, so that's more than that?

• 33:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 33:40Joe Rogan?

  So what the fuck? So go back to that chart again? 11.6.

• 33:45Speaker 03

  That's like the top four combined almost.

• 33:48Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy.

• 33:49Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 33:50Joe Rogan?

  So it's the most common job? So why is it saying retail salesperson? It's like literally three times more common than that.

• 33:57Speaker 03

  Well, I have to then dig into where they're getting their data from, I guess, but-

• 34:00Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 34:02Speaker 03

  See, it says retail has been the most common job in the US since 1997.

• 34:06Joe Rogan?

  Not anymore, bitches.

• 34:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 34:08Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy. So that means that influencer or content creator, whatever the fuck you want to call people, that's me too, I guess. With, that's the number one job. Number, podcasting. I used to have a joke back when it was just reality shows, that, um, there's gonna be a reality show about a cameraman on a reality show.

• 34:27Speaker 02

  Somebody's filming him?

• 34:28Joe Rogan?

  It's someone's filming the cameraman on a reality, what a crazy job. "You are a cameraman on a reality show." And then someone's gonna say, "But who's the cameraman behind the-" Cameraman.

• 34:38Speaker 02

  Right.

• 34:38Joe Rogan?

  And then it's gonna be like two mirrors facing each other with the United States is gonna be filled with just camera people filming other camera people.

• 34:46Speaker 02

  I'm into it.

• 34:47Joe Rogan?

  It was a joke, but it's kind of true now. Like once, cause I, back when I said this, this is like, you know, two thousand something when I was on Fear Factor. There was no social media stars. It didn't exist. And social media itself didn't exist, but now that it does, now that you see the impact that it has and how many people are making a living as air quotes, content creators. It's kind of fucking crazy.

• 35:12Speaker 02

  It's incredible.

• 35:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's a totally new market that emerged out of nowhere. And according to that thing at least, it's the number one job in the country.

• 35:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, it makes sense. People are making a ton of money off of it. That's why people are like filming every single thing that they do. And just putting it on Instagram or TikTok.

• 35:33Joe Rogan?

  Well, they learn from the Kardashians that it doesn't even have to be interesting.

• 35:36Speaker 02

  No, it doesn't.

• 35:37Joe Rogan?

  You just have to have a new scene every five seconds.

• 35:40Speaker 02

  And also if it's like something crazy, if somebody's fighting, like a fight.

• 35:43Joe Rogan?

  That helps.

• 35:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 35:44Joe Rogan?

  But it doesn't even, that doesn't even matter. All you have to do is just constantly switch angles. Do you ever watch a reality show? The, the, the scenes constantly change.

• 35:55Speaker 02

  Just switching.

• 35:55Joe Rogan?

  My wife watches that stupid fucking Kardashian show.

• 35:58Speaker 02

  I'll watch it too, but sometimes it's so monotone. Like it's just one monotone person to another monotone person.

• 36:03Joe Rogan?

  She just likes the clothes and the, this.

• 36:06Speaker 02

  I mean, listen, I've watched the Kardashians. I get it.

• 36:09Joe Rogan?

  But the point is, every like five seconds, the camera changes angles. You never have like what, like the, like a podcast.

• 36:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:18Joe Rogan?

  It's just you, me. The only thing that changes is your cameras on when you're talking, my cameras on when we're talking. Sometimes it's both, both of us talking on camera.

• 36:25Speaker 02

  I mean, I wish Kris Jenner was my mother. I mean, the way she's made these kids so famous, like, could you imagine telling your kid to fucking have a sex scene and then release it?

• 36:36Joe Rogan?

  Do you think that she did that?

• 36:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, she absolutely did that.

• 36:39Joe Rogan?

  For sure?

• 36:40Speaker 02

  I think so.

• 36:40Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 36:41Speaker 02

  I'm pretty sure.

• 36:42Joe Rogan?

  Hmm. I reserve judgment.

• 36:45Speaker 02

  I think she did, and I think it was the smartest thing she could have done for all their careers.

• 36:49Joe Rogan?

  Definitely worked.

• 36:50Speaker 02

  Absolutely.

• 36:52Joe Rogan?

  And then, everybody has sex.

• 36:54Speaker 02

  Right.

• 36:54Joe Rogan?

  You wanna watch, go watch.

• 36:55Speaker 02

  Go watch it.

• 36:56Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 36:57Speaker 02

  Like, you would never think a mom would put that out there, but it was, like, pretty brilliant. My mom would never do something like that for me.

• 37:03Joe Rogan?

  Well, you know, that, she's a little unconventional.

• 37:06Speaker 02

  Sure. Yeah, it takes an unconventional woman to, like, release your kid's sex tape.

• 37:12Joe Rogan?

  She kinda turned her husband into a woman, and basically made the entire clan super rich.

• 37:18Speaker 02

  Well, even Rob is rich.

• 37:19Joe Rogan?

  Super rich.

• 37:19Speaker 02

  They're all rich.

• 37:20Joe Rogan?

  Crazy rich. Yeah, for no reason. Like, not-

• 37:24Speaker 02

  Because of that sex tape.

• 37:25Joe Rogan?

  Right, but like, that is kind of the seed.

• 37:27Speaker 02

  It is.

• 37:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 37:29Speaker 02

  Ray J was more famous than Kim when they did that.

• 37:32Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 37:33Speaker 02

  And now Ray J's like, nowhere.

• 37:34Joe Rogan?

  I know, that sucks.

• 37:36Speaker 02

  Like, if his mother also was on top of it with Kris, he could have been a bigger star too. Nobody gives a shit about Ray J anymore.

• 37:42Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy that he didn't capitalize on that.

• 37:45Speaker 02

  Because his mom wasn't Kris Jenner.

• 37:47Joe Rogan?

  Right, but why didn't he figure out a way? Because like, what is-

• 37:50Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 37:51Joe Rogan?

  What's unique about her way of thinking?

• 37:54Speaker 02

  I think it's just, uh, Kim is very pretty.

• 37:58Joe Rogan?

  That helps. He's a good-looking guy, though.

• 37:59Speaker 02

  He is a good-looking guy.

• 38:01Joe Rogan?

  Got a big dick, right?

• 38:02Speaker 02

  He, I assume, you know, I never saw the video.

• 38:05Joe Rogan?

  How dare you lie to me like that, right to my face.

• 38:07Speaker 02

  That he has a big dick?

• 38:08Joe Rogan?

  No, that you never saw the video.

• 38:09Speaker 02

  I didn't. I saw the video, but I didn't see his dick in it.

• 38:12Joe Rogan?

  What did you see?

• 38:13Speaker 02

  I think I saw it too late. I seen it years later. I seen it years later. I checked it out too late when the dick wasn't in it.

• 38:19Joe Rogan?

  What? The dick was removed eventually?

• 38:21Speaker 02

  I think the dick was eventually removed. I don't know. I've been searching for it pretty hard.

• 38:26Joe Rogan?

  I bet Jamie can find it right now on Pornhub.

• 38:28Speaker 02

  Let's see.

• 38:28Joe Rogan?

  Can you find it?

• 38:29Speaker 03

  Pornhub's blocked in Texas, Joe.

• 38:31Joe Rogan?

  Oh, no. Well, you know what?

• 38:33Speaker 02

  Why is it blocked in Texas?

• 38:34Joe Rogan?

  You wanna have free guns.

• 38:38Speaker 02

  Why can't, why is it blocked in Texas?

• 38:40Joe Rogan?

  It's not blocked. It's not blocked. You just have to have proof that you're 18.

• 38:44Speaker 02

  How do you prove that? With your license?

• 38:46Joe Rogan?

  Upload, yeah.

• 38:47Speaker 02

  You have Kris Jenner say that you're over 18?

• 38:51Joe Rogan?

  You have to have proof.

• 38:53Speaker 02

  Okay, I guess. Well, I'm gonna go home and search it.

• 38:57Joe Rogan?

  Well,

• 39:00Joe Rogan?

  porn addiction for kids is a real thing.

• 39:02Speaker 02

  I dated a guy that had porn addiction.

• 39:04Joe Rogan?

  Yeah? What happened?

• 39:06Speaker 02

  I mean, we broke up eventually. He was also a little autistic. And then he went to see a sex therapist and I think they were fucking, so I guess she fixed it.

• 39:14Joe Rogan?

  What? He fucked his sex therapist?

• 39:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:16Joe Rogan?

  Jesus Christ. For real?

• 39:18Speaker 02

  I mean, that's what he told me. I don't think he was like lying about it.

• 39:21Joe Rogan?

  What a bitch.

• 39:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, but you have to like, it's like any other addiction, you have to like stop doing it. I didn't even know he had it.

• 39:27Joe Rogan?

  I'm just focusing on the sex therapist.

• 39:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:29Joe Rogan?

  Like, how crazy is it she's fucking her clients? Maybe her boyfriend wasn't fucking her at all. And she was like, at least someone's obsessed with it.

• 39:36Speaker 02

  Well, maybe.

• 39:37Joe Rogan?

  Give it to me.

• 39:40Speaker 02

  Maybe that's how she cures you.

• 39:41Joe Rogan?

  Cause if you're horny, if you're like a healthy person who's just horny normally. And the person you're with is not horny at all. And you're exhausted by that, but you're a sex therapist. And then you're, you're talking to some guy, he's a good looking guy and he's like, I, I wanna fuck all the time.

• 39:57Speaker 02

  That's the thing with.

• 39:58Joe Rogan?

  And she's like, you know what, I wanna fuck all the time too.

• 40:00Speaker 02

  Sure. But like with porn addiction, you're so used, like he would have like 300 screens open at once. So one person to him is boring. So that's what like porn addiction is, you need so. I'm exaggerating, but you need like a lot of different things open and it probably has to get more and more progressive for you to like get off.

• 40:17Joe Rogan?

  Wow. Well, that's where it gets real weird, right? Like you start getting into like the darker side of porn. Like violent porn and choking and gagging, spitting and slapping and abuse. Tying people up. That kinda shit. Like, cause if you're, if you're just getting your jollies, if you're not just trying to masturbate and have a little fantasy, you wanna like, it's gotta get darker and crazier and cra- it's gotta like really freak you out.

• 40:44Speaker 02

  But that's why I think you have all those screens open. You're watching all of it at once.

• 40:47Joe Rogan?

  You're getting tiny dopamine hits from a hundred sources.

• 40:51Speaker 02

  So then like.

• 40:52Joe Rogan?

  And then your therapist calling you up, get over here.

• 40:55Speaker 02

  I got 300 other therapists here.

• 40:58Joe Rogan?

  You're a naughty boy, get over here.

• 41:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, so, I mean.

• 41:02Joe Rogan?

  How did she say, how did he say that it started with the sex therapist?

• 41:06Speaker 02

  I don't know. He didn't tell me like the specifics of it. We had been broken up already and we like remained friends and he just told me that they started sleeping together.

• 41:13Joe Rogan?

  Jesus. That seems crazy. That's like prison guards fucking the prisoners.

• 41:19Speaker 02

  I mean, if I was in prison, I would try and fuck all the guards. What else are you gonna do?

• 41:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 41:23Speaker 02

  I would do everything. I'd become Muslim. I would like become trans. I would do everything I could do in prison.

• 41:27Joe Rogan?

  Right, just mix it up.

• 41:28Speaker 02

  To pass the time.

• 41:29Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, especially if you have a long sentence.

• 41:31Speaker 02

  If you're there for life, I'm down to do everything.

• 41:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 41:34Speaker 02

  I'll do license plates. I'm gonna do hair.

• 41:38Speaker 02

  I'm gonna cook. I'm gonna do everything there.

• 41:41Joe Rogan?

  Of course, yeah. Yeah. It's weird how many people are in prison. I mean, we went over this the other day. How many people are in prison in the United States compared to like the rest of the fucking world? It's like, we have the highest percentage of people that are in prison, I think of any country in the Western world for sure. I mean, you got, China's hard to count because you have essentially slaves.

• 42:07Speaker 02

  Well, also in China, they all live in like tiny boxes anyway, which are prisons of their own doing.

• 42:12Joe Rogan?

  Well, like you wouldn't say necessarily that the people that make your iPhone are slaves. But they're literally sleeping in dorms and they put nets around the building to keep them from jumping off.

• 42:23Speaker 02

  I'd rather be in prison. How do you get in prison?

• 42:25Joe Rogan?

  At least in prison, they probably like, give you less hours than the Foxconn workers.

• 42:31Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 42:31Joe Rogan?

  You probably get better food. How many people? End of 2023, the US had 1.8 million people in prison, which is more than any other country. China had the second highest number of prisoners with about 100,000 fewer than the US. But the thing about China, again, like it's not just the amount of people in an actual prison. You have to think about the actual people that are slaves. US has the highest incarceration rate in the world, 724 people per 100,000.

• 43:00Joe Rogan?

  England and Wales has an incarceration rate of 145 per 140,000 and Russia has 581 people per 100,000. So Russia's nipping at our heels. Russian people are fucking crazy though.

• 43:14Joe Rogan?

  Uh, US has longer sentences than many other countries, which contributes to the high incarceration rates. I wonder how many other countries have private prisons, too. That's the dark part.

• 43:22Speaker 02

  Well, that's how you make the money.

• 43:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah. Profit, profit off of people. I remember when I found out that prison guard unions were lobbying to keep marijuana laws because they wanted people to be in jails. Like, what?

• 43:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, because they want to make money.

• 43:37Joe Rogan?

  They want money. They need, they need that job. They need those contracts. So, uh, many countries have private prisons, including United States has the most private prisons in the world. Hundred and fifty-eight facilities in thirty states, Puerto Rico and the District of Columbia. Australia, high percentage of privatized prisons, New Zealand, United Kingdom, Scotland, Wales, South Africa, Japan, Brazil. When did they start with the private prison thing? Like, who, what fucking monster? Okay, Google this. What was the first private prison? What fucking monster didn't see, didn't see the road ahead when you allow people to profit off of people being locked up? What monster didn't see you're gonna just have people lock more people up?

• 44:21Joe Rogan?

  Nineteen eighty-four, these motherfuckers. It's George Orwell, literally is Orwell.

• 44:26Speaker 02

  I would have thought it was before that.

• 44:28Joe Rogan?

  No, it's a fairly recent thing. Prison used to be something that we used to have because we had to lock certain people up to protect them from society. And instead, it became, hey, I think I could make money. I think I can make money off people in jail. They're using people like batteries to generate money.

• 44:46Speaker 03

  This thing says Louisiana privatized. It's penitentiary. I don't know if there's a big differentiation between that.

• 44:52Speaker 02

  Eighteen forty-four.

• 44:53Joe Rogan?

  Privatized, which was run as a factory. Yeah, inmates were used to produce cheap clothing for enslaved people. Wow! That's crazy. You're producing clothes for slaves.

• 45:06Speaker 02

  I mean, that is basically just, um, Xi'an. That's what they're doing in China.

• 45:11Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 45:12Speaker 02

  All those clothes that are like two dollars.

• 45:14Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's weird, right?

• 45:15Speaker 02

  I know.

• 45:16Joe Rogan?

  You can buy a total knockoff of a designer dress for like four bucks.

• 45:19Speaker 02

  I know. It's great. I love it.

• 45:21Joe Rogan?

  They're being, they think, you love it. I think there's a documentary on that that I was watching. My kid was watching and I walked in on it.

• 45:29Speaker 02

  Was it like the Xi'an documentary?

• 45:31Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm. Yeah, they were talking about these people like they lost their contract because they weren't able to produce things as fast as this company needed them. And it was just all about the knockoff industry over there. So if you're a designer, you might like that top that you're wearing and people like it, they'll just take that top and copy it exactly. And sell for five bucks, you know, and you're like, what? It's fifty-nine dollars on my website. Nope.

• 45:53Speaker 02

  Why are there not knockoff iPhones?

• 45:56Joe Rogan?

  There are. Not only is there not, not only is there a knockoff iPhone, there's a knockoff Apple Store in China. Where every single item is not really Apple.

• 46:06Speaker 02

  But it works just as good? It does not work as good.

• 46:09Joe Rogan?

  I doubt it.

• 46:11Speaker 02

  How long does it last?

• 46:12Joe Rogan?

  Why wouldn't they cut corners? They're already lying to you.

• 46:14Speaker 02

  I know.

• 46:15Joe Rogan?

  Like, why wouldn't they put a cheaper chip in the laptops, wouldn't they put cheaper screens? If you want to use like Gorilla Glass and AMOLED displays, that's just expensive. Use some cheap ass, you know, five year ago bullshit and just sell it to morons.

• 46:29Speaker 02

  If it lasts for a couple of years, that's great.

• 46:31Joe Rogan?

  Five year old bullshit still works.

• 46:33Speaker 02

  Yeah. It does.

• 46:35Joe Rogan?

  It's not great, though.

• 46:36Speaker 02

  I mean, I drop my phone all the time.

• 46:37Joe Rogan?

  Try to register with the Apple Store and they're like, nah, player. That's ain't an iPhone.

• 46:43Speaker 02

  That's why you need Riot so you can steal the stuff. It all comes back to that.

• 46:50Speaker 02

  Stealing all this stuff.

• 46:51Joe Rogan?

  But someone's gotta make the stuff. Slaves.

• 46:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, in China.

• 46:54Joe Rogan?

  Slaves in prison, in China. Yeah. I mean, what percentage of, let's, let's ask this. What percentage of our electronics is made in China?

• 47:04Speaker 02

  Probably ninety-five percent.

• 47:06Joe Rogan?

  Well, a lot gets made in Japan and South Korea. Like Sony, huge. Samsung, huge. They're probably one of the biggest electronic makers. They make everything. They make refrigerators. They make like smart refrigerators where you can like check your refrigerator with your phone, see what the fuck's in there.

• 47:22Speaker 02

  To make sure your refrigerator is like not doing something.

• 47:25Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, checking on you. Keep an eye on that motherfucker.

• 47:28Speaker 02

  What's going on in there?

• 47:29Joe Rogan?

  What are you doing?

• 47:30Speaker 02

  How many ice cubes have you made?

• 47:32Joe Rogan?

  You lazy bitch. Where's my fucking ice, ice cubes from your refrigerator, from your freezer? Are they the dirtiest ice cubes of all time? Like, I don't ever want those in my glass.

• 47:43Speaker 03

  Remember, although I think the Apple stuff is all coming from China.

• 47:46Joe Rogan?

  You nailed it. Oh, yeah, all the stuff that gets made actually gets made from Apple. That's all China. Laptops and computer monitors, China supplies ninety-two percent of US imports.

• 47:58Joe Rogan?

  Phones, China supplies seventy-four percent of US phone imports. So Samsung does not use China for phones. And I don't know if it's an ethical thing or what, but I think they make their phones in India and somewhere else. Maybe Vietnam?

• 48:16Speaker 02

  Did they, is there a correlation between them like stopping killing baby girls in China with making all of this stuff? Where they go like, let's keep them alive, so we can have them?

• 48:27Joe Rogan?

  No, I think they just woke up and said, we have like eighty-five percent men.

• 48:31Speaker 02

  Right.

• 48:31Joe Rogan?

  And all these poor women are fucked. You know, like.

• 48:35Speaker 02

  They have to keep fucking all these guys.

• 48:36Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 48:37Speaker 02

  There's not enough women.

• 48:38Joe Rogan?

  They have to live with like three or four guys, just to balance it out.

• 48:42Speaker 02

  Gross.

• 48:43Joe Rogan?

  Take turns.

• 48:43Speaker 03

  Competition, they're not as highly competitive in China, it sounds like.

• 48:47Joe Rogan?

  Hmm, they relocated some of the manufacturing from China, Southeast Asia, to avoid high labor costs. What?

• 48:56Speaker 02

  Say?

• 48:57Joe Rogan?

  Those slaves are expensive, Adrian.

• 48:59Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 49:00Joe Rogan?

  Uh, Samsung also hasn't been able to compete with Chinese brands like Xiaomi, Oppo, and Vivo in the Chinese market. Interesting.

• 49:08Speaker 02

  I've never even heard of those brands.

• 49:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they make, um, Xiaomi makes, um, like, high-end Android phones. In the rest of the world, Android phones are huge.

• 49:19Speaker 02

  I know.

• 49:19Joe Rogan?

  Because everybody uses WhatsApp. They don't really give a fuck about iMessage.

• 49:23Speaker 02

  WhatsApp is like big in the Hispanic community, too.

• 49:26Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, WhatsApp is huge. Well, I have friends that only talk to me on WhatsApp.

• 49:30Speaker 02

  I do too.

• 49:31Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Like, well Zuckerberg owns it. You know, he owns it. But I don't talk to him other than WhatsApp. He's a WhatsApp, but he owns WhatsApp.

• 49:40Speaker 02

  You talk to him on WhatsApp?

• 49:42Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I talk to him on WhatsApp.

• 49:42Speaker 02

  What does he say?

• 49:43Joe Rogan?

  He talks shit about things.

• 49:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, he's like, what's up?

• 49:46Joe Rogan?

  He's a nice guy. He really is. He's, no, he's a billionaire. Yeah, he's a nice guy. It's when someone's like really rich, like, oh, that guy's not a person.

• 49:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, but he didn't start out rich though, did he?

• 49:55Joe Rogan?

  No. Of course not, he invented Facebook.

• 49:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, but some people start, some people are rich and they like had, their families had money the whole time, so that, yeah.

• 50:02Joe Rogan?

  That's weird, right? Cause then you're insulated from birth and then you go right into a deeper layer of insulation where you're like completely, yeah, yeah. Completely disconnected from people. That's when you get into like Bill Gates category, which, let's figure out a way to block out the sun.

• 50:19Speaker 02

  You're so rich where you're like, I really wanna fuck shit up for everyone.

• 50:23Joe Rogan?

  Imagine, like, I was reading this thing about Bill Gates's idea to block out the sun and oopsies, oopsies, Jamie.

• 50:29Speaker 02

  Sorry.

• 50:30Joe Rogan?

  No worries, it happens.

• 50:31Speaker 02

  I'll, I'll clean it, I'm a woman, I'll clean it. I know my place.

• 50:37Joe Rogan?

  Like, he, they were talking about Bill Gates has some plan to stop global warming and like, shoot particles into the air to block out the sun. And people are like, hey, do you know how many fucking people are on Earth? You can't just come up with that idea and try it. Like, what about the rest of us?

• 50:52Speaker 02

  You only need vitamin D.

• 50:53Joe Rogan?

  But imagine being so ridiculous, you're, you're so wealthy that you think, oh, I could just block the sun.

• 50:59Speaker 02

  I kinda love it. I kinda love that this guy's so nuts.

• 51:03Joe Rogan?

  He is nuts.

• 51:04Speaker 02

  And then you're like, I'm just gonna stop, like, water from hap- like, you're just gonna, like, I love so many of the things that can do that much damage to the world.

• 51:11Joe Rogan?

  I think people should just stop eating meat. And then he just, like, tries to get everybody stupid fucking fake meat.

• 51:17Speaker 02

  That's fine, but imagine, like, blocking out the sun.

• 51:18Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy. Yeah, he's also buying farmland.

• 51:21Speaker 02

  To do what?

• 51:22Joe Rogan?

  Who fucking knows? Probably grow his fake meat food.

• 51:26Speaker 02

  Like GMO shit?

• 51:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well, fake meat is made out of plant protein, and so you have to grow plants.

• 51:32Speaker 02

  I've never had it.

• 51:33Joe Rogan?

  It's nasty.

• 51:34Speaker 02

  I bet it's disgusting.

• 51:36Joe Rogan?

  The thing about it is, like, if you wanna have healthy vegetarian food, go eat Indian food. It tastes delicious, it's good for you, and it's vegetarian. Like, it just doesn't have to pretend to be a cheeseburger.

• 51:49Speaker 02

  Right.

• 51:49Joe Rogan?

  The fake cheeseburger stuff is all seed oils.

• 51:52Speaker 02

  Just eat legumes and whatever you're gonna eat.

• 51:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, if you, you can do it. Like, if you can, if you wanna eat healthy and have delicious food, Indian food's the way to go. One hundred, there's an Indian food restaurant in Woodland Hills I used to go to all the time. It was this cool place, it was like, everybody spoke Hindi. And you went in there and, like, you had to, like, just guess what you're eating and point, everything was vegetarian.

• 52:15Speaker 02

  Pretty scary to me.

• 52:16Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it was super, super authentic. It was like, there's this weird offshoot Indian community, and so they had, like, this Indian grocery store. And then in the back of the Indian grocery store, they had this cafe, and it was all Indian food. It was really. Good though.

• 52:29Speaker 02

  It's probably, they use a lot of spices too.

• 52:31Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah, they know how to spice the shit out of those vegetables. But it was good. It was like delicious vegetables.

• 52:37Speaker 02

  It's pretty healthy.

• 52:38Joe Rogan?

  It's very healthy.

• 52:39Speaker 02

  It's like vegetables and like all that stuff's pretty good.

• 52:42Joe Rogan?

  Also, they use a lot of turmeric, you know, like and curcumin and all the, those spices and like, that's all anti-inflammatory turmeric.

• 52:49Speaker 02

  Right. I mean, you have to be close to a bathroom, but like it is pretty good.

• 52:52Joe Rogan?

  Let's go. You gotta be ready to go.

• 52:56Speaker 02

  I'm gonna eat this on the run.

• 52:57Joe Rogan?

  But that's my point is like, if you wanna fucking eat vegetarian, if you wanna eat vegetables only, there's a way to do it that tastes good and you don't have to pretend you're eating a fucking burger. Those burgers are nasty.

• 53:09Speaker 02

  Feel left out? Like what is the point of pretending to eat that?

• 53:12Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's cause the people quit eating meat.

• 53:14Speaker 02

  Right. I understand that.

• 53:16Joe Rogan?

  No, they quit and then they want the meat back. They wish they could have the meat. Oh, you could pretend you're eating the meat. It even bleeds just like a burger.

• 53:24Speaker 02

  Gross. Just eat a burger or eat beans or whatever you can eat.

• 53:28Joe Rogan?

  Super duper unhe- unhealthy for you.

• 53:31Speaker 02

  It can't be healthy to manufacture it like that.

• 53:34Joe Rogan?

  It's so processed. If you wanna eat vegetables, this is how you eat them. Come out of the ground, clean them up.

• 53:41Speaker 02

  Put some spices.

• 53:42Joe Rogan?

  Cook them. That's a vegetable. You don't run it through fucking machines and glop it up with oils and extract things and compress it and shut the fuck up.

• 53:53Speaker 02

  Tempeh looks like?

• 53:54Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it's nasty.

• 53:55Speaker 02

  I know. My friend was eating it one time. I was like, that looks disgusting.

• 53:58Joe Rogan?

  Ugh. I was watching the production of tofu, like from scratch with all these machines. Like, why would you ever think that's natural?

• 54:05Speaker 02

  And tofu doesn't taste good. I mean, I know it picks up the flavor, what it, whatever it is, but it's like, it's on its own, it has no taste.

• 54:11Joe Rogan?

  No, on its own has no taste. It's a crude source of protein that doesn't have a lot of amino acids in it and it's not as bioavailable. But you can live on it. Like you can live, you, you can live on vegetables. You can do it. It's just, it's not advisable.

• 54:26Speaker 02

  You just don't have energy though.

• 54:28Joe Rogan?

  No, you're missing so many things. You're missing creatine, you're missing a bunch of amino acids, you're missing vitamin B12. There's a bunch of things you're gonna have to supplement with. You know, there's ways people supplement that, that can mitigate some of that. Um, algae's a good one. Cause algae's kind of a life form that's different and you can get certain vitamins from algae that you can't get from just like. Plants that grow above ground.

• 54:52Speaker 02

  This sounds disgusting.

• 54:53Joe Rogan?

  It does sound disgusting. You know what vegans should really consider adopting into their diet? Molusks. Because mollusks are actually more primitive than plants. They just, you gotta go over the fact that they move, okay? Because Venus flytraps move too.

• 55:10Speaker 02

  They do.

• 55:10Joe Rogan?

  Would you feel bad about eating a Venus flytrap salad? If you do, you're a cuckoo person. You're not just a vegetarian. You're a cuckoo person. Now, you think the Venus flytrap is smarter than like cabbage? That's stupid. That doesn't make any sense.

• 55:23Speaker 02

  Do vegetarians not eat any vegetables either? Aren't there some people that believe like all that's...

• 55:27Joe Rogan?

  Oh, fruitarians. That's a fruitarian, yeah.

• 55:29Speaker 02

  So then what do they eat?

• 55:30Joe Rogan?

  Well, those people eat cancer. They die.

• 55:32Speaker 02

  I mean, that's crazy.

• 55:33Joe Rogan?

  That's so bad for you to just, you only eat fruit. You're overwhelmed with sugar. You're eating sugar all day long. Sugar should be something you have every now and then, I think. I mean, I think sugar is generally, it causes all sorts of inflammation. It's not really good for you. It tastes great, but it's not good for you.

• 55:50Speaker 02

  You mean like fruit sugar or like...

• 55:52Joe Rogan?

  Even fruit sugar. I think you should get fruit sugar in the form of fruit only. You definitely shouldn't get it in orange juice. Orange juice is no different than drinking a Coca-Cola.

• 56:01Speaker 02

  But what if it's like a hundred percent just orange juice?

• 56:04Joe Rogan?

  Doesn't matter. Your body's not used to processing all that liquid sugar. Yeah, exactly the same way, maybe even worse. Because some, like, uh, my daughter once got one of them little apple juices from Disneyland. And she looks at, she goes, "Jesus Christ, this has eighteen grams of sugar in it."

• 56:21Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 56:22Joe Rogan?

  Tiny thing.

• 56:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 56:24Joe Rogan?

  Like, what is a Coca-Cola, Jamie? Is it thirty? Let's guess. How many grams of sugar do you think Coca-Cola has in it?

• 56:30Speaker 02

  Probably about forty.

• 56:31Joe Rogan?

  Forty?

• 56:32Speaker 02

  Thirty-eight.

• 56:33Joe Rogan?

  I say about thirty. What do you think, Jamie? Like thirty-ish?

• 56:37Speaker 03

  Thirty-nine.

• 56:37Joe Rogan?

  Thirty-nine? Okay. That's it?

• 56:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, sorry, that's what it is.

• 56:42Joe Rogan?

  Okay. So what is, uh, twelve ounces of orange juice? Twelve ounces of, let's say, fresh squeezed. So it's, you think you're eating healthy. Fresh squeezed orange juice.

• 56:53Speaker 02

  There's, you still have to be better off having a fruit juice over a diet Coke.

• 56:57Joe Rogan?

  Not, well, not.

• 56:58Speaker 02

  Or not a Coke, a regular Coke.

• 56:59Joe Rogan?

  Not much. Well, there is, they're both fructose, right? Thirty, yeah, real similar, real similar to Coca-Cola. You do get vitamin C, you get that. But if you want orange juice, you should get it from eating oranges. Cause when, that's what, your body knows what to do with that. Your body gets a slice of orange, it goes, I need to do with this. This is good, there's plenty of fiber in there.

• 57:23Speaker 02

  Okay, so let me ask you this. If you're drinking orange juice, how come your body doesn't recognize that as an orange?

• 57:28Joe Rogan?

  Because it's going straight to your liver, okay? There's no breaking down of fiber. There's no, and you're getting a dose of equivalent to like eating eight oranges immediately.

• 57:39Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 57:39Joe Rogan?

  Your body's like, what the fuck is this? That's why soda's so bad for you.

• 57:44Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 57:44Joe Rogan?

  Your body's like, what the fuck is this?

• 57:48Speaker 02

  Well, I stopped eating sugar.

• 57:50Joe Rogan?

  Totally?

• 57:51Speaker 02

  I only have like fruit, but like, other than that, I don't have any like cookies or cake or any of that stuff.

• 57:57Joe Rogan?

  How do you feel?

• 57:58Speaker 02

  I feel better. I mean, I lost a ton of weight.

• 58:00Joe Rogan?

  You did, you look great.

• 58:01Speaker 02

  Thanks, I, uh.

• 58:02Joe Rogan?

  How much you lose?

• 58:03Speaker 02

  From the last time I was here, probably like forty-five, fifty pounds, but I also was working out too.

• 58:08Joe Rogan?

  How do your joints feel? They must feel so much lighter.

• 58:10Speaker 02

  They do, but like I have a friend who's like losing weight, it doesn't matter how much you weigh, it doesn't weigh on your joints. And I'm like, you know, that's like not true.

• 58:18Joe Rogan?

  That doesn't make any sense.

• 58:19Speaker 02

  I know, but you just kinda have to let people think that, cause what am I gonna do, fight with you about it? Just, okay.

• 58:23Joe Rogan?

  She said it doesn't make a difference in your joints?

• 58:25Speaker 02

  Doesn't make a difference how much you weigh, like on your knees.

• 58:29Joe Rogan?

  Guy or a girl?

• 58:29Speaker 02

  A girl.

• 58:32Speaker 02

  And I was like, okay, I'm just, like I was staying at her house too, and I was like, I'm not gonna fight with you about this.

• 58:36Joe Rogan?

  I used to notice the difference when I was fighting, when I would lose weight, when I would, uh, compete. So I used to weigh like a hundred and fifty-five pounds, and I had to compete at a hundred and forty.

• 58:48Speaker 02

  And just that fifteen pound weight you felt?

• 58:50Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah, I felt so light, I felt so, so light on my feet. Well, I work out with a vest, I put a weight vest on, so it's a twenty-five pound weight vest, and I do like all these body weight exercises. When I get that, that twenty-five pounds doesn't seem like much. I get that thing off me, I'm like.

• 59:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, my back, everything feels better.

• 59:08Joe Rogan?

  Of course, your joints, everything, you're overstressed, but your legs are probably as strong as fuck. I used to say that about Ralphie May, I'm like, bro, if you could lose weight, you could kick through a fucking building.

• 59:20Speaker 02

  But I think your knees are just like, we need a break.

• 59:23Joe Rogan?

  Right, but they will get a break, they're gonna get a break because you're gonna lose 400 pounds.

• 59:26Speaker 02

  If you lose 400 pounds, sure.

• 59:29Joe Rogan?

  I mean, but I was looking at his legs, I'm like, the muscle you must have in your legs, you go upstairs. You know, Ralphie was performing in the belly room. Ralphie went into the belly room, so he had to go upstairs. You remember the belly room of the store? That's a fucking stair, old school staircase.

• 59:45Speaker 02

  But I mean, how often are you doing that?

• 59:47Joe Rogan?

  Well, he's walking a lot, because he was always walking, just walking. Imagine if, okay, I weighed 205 pounds, if I had to put on a, what did Ralphie weigh in his prime, if you had to guess?

• 1:00:01Speaker 02

  I have no idea, 500 pounds?

• 1:00:03Joe Rogan?

  If I had to put on 300 pounds, imagine if, and I'm in shape, imagine if I had to walk around the Comedy Store with a dumbbell on my weight, on my back, or a barbell on my back, with 300 pounds on it.

• 1:00:16Speaker 02

  Okay, but I mean, you're not-

• 1:00:17Joe Rogan?

  I could make it like 30 steps, then I have to put it down and take a break for like five minutes, and then try to pick it up again, and I'd be exhausted, this dude's just walking around all day like that.

• 1:00:27Speaker 02

  But if you're walking around that much, you're gonna lose a lot of weight, too.

• 1:00:30Speaker 03

  He almost lost that much weight.

• 1:00:32Joe Rogan?

  That's what you lost?

• 1:00:33Speaker 03

  Yeah. He weighed almost 800 pounds.

• 1:00:36Joe Rogan?

  Yo.

• 1:00:37Speaker 02

  And just walking up the stairs at the belly room, he lost 300 pounds?

• 1:00:40Joe Rogan?

  Just once, one time.

• 1:00:41Speaker 02

  One time? That's crazy, why are we not having all the fat people walk?

• 1:00:45Joe Rogan?

  Wow, he used to weigh over 800 pounds, he underwent gastric bypass surgery and lost 350 pounds, but he struggled with his weight. He, um, he blew out his gastric bypass twice.

• 1:00:56Speaker 02

  Well, the thing is with, I mean, a lot of people that get those surgeries, you're not, if you're not figuring out the reason why you're overeating like that, it doesn't matter, you can still gain the weight back if you eat small meals all day long. I have friends that have gotten it and you just eat small meals all day long.

• 1:01:10Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:01:10Speaker 02

  And you're just still gaining the weight back, yeah.

• 1:01:12Joe Rogan?

  Keep, you at least maintain your weight. You can't keep as much in there at a time as like a giant plate of food, but.

• 1:01:18Speaker 02

  No, but if you eat little meals all day and graze, you'll gain the weight back. I know people that have had that surgery and you're like, oh, you just gained a lot of your weight back.

• 1:01:27Joe Rogan?

  Right, so they're not eating because they're hungry. They're eating because they're crazy. There's something wrong.

• 1:01:31Speaker 02

  Right, it's like the same way people abuse anything, right? Like if it's alcohol or sex or drugs, you know, it's the same thing, right? You're trying to like numb out and fill a void. So if you don't actually address that, you're not gonna just stop eating.

• 1:01:42Joe Rogan?

  So, someone told me this, um, find out if this is true. Does Bruno Mars owe the MGM a ton of money from gambling? Is that true?

• 1:01:51Speaker 03

  I've seen the story where someone's claims they were there.

• 1:01:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I've talked to someone who claims it's, someone who would know, who claims it's true. But isn't that crazy, if true, that even a guy like Bruno Mars, who's just super wealthy, super famous, super talented singer?

• 1:02:08Speaker 02

  Doesn't mean you don't have issues, though.

• 1:02:09Joe Rogan?

  Right, but the gambling one is a nutty one.

• 1:02:11Speaker 02

  It is, well, my dad was a gambler.

• 1:02:13Speaker 03

  MGM, he has no debt.

• 1:02:15Joe Rogan?

  Because MGM probably made some sort of a deal.

• 1:02:17Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:02:18Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:02:18Joe Rogan?

  Because doesn't he have like some sort of, he has no debt with MGM? Wink, wink. So they have a deal. So what is, uh, would, they have some sort of a, he has a residency there, right?

• 1:02:29Speaker 03

  I think so.

• 1:02:32Joe Rogan?

  The word is.

• 1:02:33Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:02:33Joe Rogan?

  I don't know if he's got a gambling problem.

• 1:02:35Speaker 02

  My dad was a gambler and like he made no money. It's the craziest thing to be a gambler when you have no real money.

• 1:02:41Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it's a crazy one. It's a crazy addiction. It's an addiction that, um, I, I first saw when I started hanging out in pool halls when I was 23. I started, I became addicted to playing pool. I was playing it all the time. I blew my knee out. I needed to get knee surgery. And, um, uh, when I blew my knee out, I couldn't work out, so I had to wait for surgery and so like my ACL was all fucked up. And so I just started playing pool with one of my friends and I became addicted to playing pool. And I would go there all the time. Because as a comedian, I didn't have a job. I just would go on stage at night and during the daytime,

• 1:03:14Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:03:15Joe Rogan?

  I'd hang out in pool halls and at nighttime I'd hang out in pool halls and I just. Got around these people that I I'd never known anybody like that before. Just fully addicted to gambling all day long. They would go to the racetrack. They would go to off track betting.

• 1:03:28Speaker 02

  My dad used to take me to OTB as a kid. That's brutal. And that's when they used to let you smoke. You just come home smelling like smoke. It's disgusting.

• 1:03:36Joe Rogan?

  In there as a kid.

• 1:03:37Speaker 02

  Me and my sister, we would hang out with my dad in the OTB for hours.

• 1:03:41Joe Rogan?

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• 1:05:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, you're way better, Dad. It wouldn't be bad if my dad was gambling and he was like, you know, he was a mailman. You can't, you can't gam- you can't do both of those things at the same time.

• 1:05:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. It's a crazy one. It's a really cra- who was it that told us that the dad, the dad was gambling so hard they lost their house? Oh, fuck, I forgot the whole story, but it's just, you don't hear a story, very rarely, about a gambling addict who like kills it and like they retire in Vegas and they have

• 1:05:57Speaker 02

  No, because you keep going until you eventually lose everything.

• 1:06:00Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's a dark one. Did you see Uncut Gems?

• 1:06:03Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:06:05Joe Rogan?

  You should see it. Well, you might be too close to home.

• 1:06:07Speaker 02

  It doesn't matter.

• 1:06:08Joe Rogan?

  It's, uh, it's Adam Sandler, I think his best movie ever, and it wasn't even a comedy at all. It's a drama.

• 1:06:14Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:06:14Joe Rogan?

  He fucking kills in it, too. It's so good.

• 1:06:16Speaker 02

  I have heard other people say that.

• 1:06:18Joe Rogan?

  It's so good.

• 1:06:18Speaker 02

  I gotta watch it.

• 1:06:19Joe Rogan?

  But it's, for me, like, having known those people.

• 1:06:22Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:06:23Joe Rogan?

  And it's so filled with anxiety, because it's a, it's a sports betting thing. Sports betters are the craziest ones, because there's so many different ways to bet. You can get, bet the spread, you can bet parlays, you can do all.

• 1:06:34Speaker 02

  My dad, for a while, my dad was like taking money from his pension, which like, yeah, so when he died, there was like really not that much money. My mom was forcing him to go to Gambler's Anonymous while he was also still gambling.

• 1:06:46Joe Rogan?

  It's not gonna help.

• 1:06:47Speaker 02

  If you don't really wanna stop, right, if you don't wanna stop, you're not gonna stop.

• 1:06:51Joe Rogan?

  I think food is the hardest one, um, because food addiction, you always have to eat food, right?

• 1:06:58Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:06:58Joe Rogan?

  All the other ones, you can kind of just not do them anymore.

• 1:07:01Speaker 02

  That's why I stopped eating sugar, because once I started eating it, I can't stop.

• 1:07:04Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:07:04Speaker 02

  So then, once it's like out of your system, you don't crave it anymore.

• 1:07:07Joe Rogan?

  Well, that's because your gut bacteria changes.

• 1:07:09Speaker 02

  That makes sense.

• 1:07:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's, what is it, candida, is that what it is? There's a specific type of gut flora that consumes sugar and, uh, it thrives on sugar. And with people that eat a lot of sugar, it's very prominent in their, their gut bacteria. And it literally changes your brain. It changes your chemistry. It changes your mood.

• 1:07:30Speaker 02

  Doesn't sugar also just like a breeding ground for cancer, like when you have cancer?

• 1:07:34Joe Rogan?

  One of the things they tell you if you get cancer. Stop all sugar, get on a ketogenic diet, so get your body to eat like high fats. Yeah, eat a lot of macadamia nuts and things with, you know, things you get a lot of fat from. And just that's, you, your body starts burning fat, which you feel so much better when you live like that. Your brain works better.

• 1:07:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, for sure. You're just like in a brain fog.

• 1:07:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, for sure. Sure for me, I mean, you know, I'm Italian, so I grew up eating pasta and bread and pizza, it was like common. And when I stopped doing it, when I went like on a carnivore diet, the first thing that I thought that was really bizarre was I wasn't hungry during the day. Like I ne- I never got this like famished starvation feeling.

• 1:08:16Speaker 02

  Well, cause isn't it like you're, if you're eating stuff that's like high in carbohydrates like that, you're, doesn't your blood sugar like drop really quickly and stuff?

• 1:08:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it spikes when you eat, it's like, it's insulin. Your body produces a ton of insulin and you want, you want your body to run on ketones. If your body runs on ketones, it's just like, it works better, your thought. One of the things that I noticed like almost immediately was like when I came in to do podcasts, I was much better at it. My, my brain, like just as a, from a performance enhancing perspective, my brain functions better. I can form sentences better.

• 1:08:50Speaker 02

  If I was eating like a lot of sugar, you almost get like that same hungover feeling as if you drink. Like I've had that where like if you binge eat sugar and then the next day you're like, oh my god, I feel so hungover.

• 1:09:01Joe Rogan?

  It's similar, yeah. It's similar. Like there's something to, it's not as extreme, cause you're probably not dehydrated too. But yeah, your body's like, what are you doing to me, man?

• 1:09:10Speaker 02

  It's not good.

• 1:09:11Joe Rogan?

  It's not good.

• 1:09:12Speaker 02

  Not at all.

• 1:09:12Joe Rogan?

  But it's so delicious. Like,

• 1:09:14Speaker 02

  It is, sure.

• 1:09:15Joe Rogan?

  Cake is so fucking good while you're eating it.

• 1:09:17Speaker 02

  I know.

• 1:09:17Joe Rogan?

  While you're eating it, you're like, god, this is so good.

• 1:09:19Speaker 02

  My dad felt gambling on the horses. He's like, this feels so good. And then, what he, so they would send us to Catholic school and he would like not pay, like tuition and then they would call me in to like talk to me.

• 1:09:32Joe Rogan?

  Oh no.

• 1:09:32Speaker 02

  And I'd have to go talk to my dad.

• 1:09:34Joe Rogan?

  And he was gambling the money away?

• 1:09:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, my dad was always gambling.

• 1:09:39Joe Rogan?

  I think people need some excitement in their life, you know?

• 1:09:43Speaker 02

  Sure, and it's like, why are you doing that? What are you trying to numb out? Cause god knows what he was, you know what I mean? Like everyone's kind of, trying to fix their problems from their childhood or they're not.

• 1:09:53Joe Rogan?

  There's that, but I think with gambling, it's also it's excitement.

• 1:09:57Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:09:58Joe Rogan?

  And you get addicted to just having a purpose and having excitement. Your purpose is to figure out when the Knicks are gonna win by seventeen points.

• 1:10:05Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 1:10:06Joe Rogan?

  And if they win, you win, and then, yes, I'm alive!

• 1:10:10Speaker 02

  It like spikes, like you're just like that feeling of like winning and then that feeling of losing.

• 1:10:14Joe Rogan?

  Well, that's the craziest thing about the Adam Sandler movie. There's a moment in it, spoiler alert, where he does make this big win. And so with this big win, he's gonna be able to pay all these people off that are trying to kill him, and he immediately doubles down and puts it on another, and you're like, what the fuck are you doing?

• 1:10:27Speaker 02

  Right, you just, because that's the thing, you're chasing that high constantly. I had a friend who's a huge gambler, and like, he lost so much money, and no matter how much he gambles, if he's up fifteen thousand dollars, he's still chasing that eight million dollar loss. So it doesn't matter, he's, he's constantly chasing that big loss. And like, no matter how much he wins, he's like, yeah, but I still lost all that other money, so I'm gonna keep chasing this.

• 1:10:51Joe Rogan?

  My good friend Dana White is a gambling addict.

• 1:10:54Speaker 02

  And also, if you're super rich, you just have more to lose.

• 1:10:57Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah, he, he goes hard. We went to visit him at, um, Green Valley, was it Green, no, River, Red Rocks? Red Rocks. We went to visit him at Red Rocks, Jamie and I went, and when we got there, he was six hundred thousand dollars down. When we got there.

• 1:11:11Speaker 02

  That's crazy.

• 1:11:11Joe Rogan?

  Playing blackjack. But at the end of the night, he stayed till like six in the morning, he was six hundred thousand dollars up. So he won that money back, and then he got him for six hundred grand.

• 1:11:21Speaker 02

  That's crazy.

• 1:11:23Joe Rogan?

  He's there all the time, he loves it, he lov, but he's worth like, you know, I don't know what he's worth, hundreds of millions of dollars, like.

• 1:11:30Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:11:30Joe Rogan?

  He can get away with that, but it's like, jeez.

• 1:11:32Speaker 02

  Not my dad who's making forty grand a year.

• 1:11:34Joe Rogan?

  But it's nutty that even a wealthy guy, you would think, you're that wealthy, why would you wanna gamble?

• 1:11:39Speaker 02

  It's just the feeling, there's nothing that replicates that feeling that you get when you're like winning or losing.

• 1:11:45Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's a real drug.

• 1:11:47Speaker 02

  For sure.

• 1:11:48Joe Rogan?

  And it's a weird one, it's a really weird, it's like, it hijacks like your, your human reward system that's built to solve problems and overcome adversaries and, you know, conquer and get conquered. Like, it's, it's hijacking that little part of your brain.

• 1:12:03Speaker 02

  I kinda wanna gamble.

• 1:12:04Joe Rogan?

  Right now, right?

• 1:12:05Speaker 02

  Right now, let's just fucking go.

• 1:12:07Joe Rogan?

  If you were a gambler, what do you think your game would be?

• 1:12:11Speaker 02

  Whenever I do it, it's just like slots.

• 1:12:13Joe Rogan?

  Really? That's the dumbest one.

• 1:12:14Speaker 02

  I know, cuz I don't really know how to play blackjack or anything. So I'm just like, "Ewwww." "I'm gonna lose all my money."

• 1:12:24Joe Rogan?

  Well, you wanna learn, though?

• 1:12:25Speaker 02

  I would like to learn, yeah. I did learn blackjack a little bit. My friend was teaching me.

• 1:12:29Joe Rogan?

  I think I could learn blackjack craps. I'm like, "You might as well be trying to teach me how to read, you know, ancient Hebrew."

• 1:12:36Speaker 02

  The weird one to me is like someone who puts all the money on the red or black.

• 1:12:39Joe Rogan?

  Oh, roulette?

• 1:12:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:12:40Joe Rogan?

  That's a nutty one.

• 1:12:41Speaker 02

  It is, cuz don't you have to get the number? How do you even like, how do you even bet on that? It's such a chance.

• 1:12:47Joe Rogan?

  I think there's a bunch of different ways you can bet. I think you can bet red or black. You could bet specific numbers. You know, I think there's a bunch of different ways, but if you wanted to like bet at all, red or black, I think you can. I think you can bet like a hundred grand on one roll. I think it's gonna come out red.

• 1:13:02Speaker 02

  I don't know, I just imagine like the feeling you get putting, say you put a hundred grand down and then you lose and you're like, "Nooo."

• 1:13:11Speaker 02

  "That's my children's tuition. There goes our house."

• 1:13:14Joe Rogan?

  But that thing addicts people. I mean, that's the argument why casinos shouldn't be everywhere. Because people would just, everywhere they would be falling into gambling addiction.

• 1:13:24Speaker 02

  For the most, I mean casinos, like there's one in Yonkers in New York, it's so depressing. It's just all old people that are there on disability, just sitting there and they're doing that thing.

• 1:13:32Joe Rogan?

  The slots.

• 1:13:33Speaker 02

  The slots and just smoking. I know.

• 1:13:37Joe Rogan?

  Just waiting to die.

• 1:13:38Speaker 02

  It's very sad. You're waiting to die.

• 1:13:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. It's a dark thing that you just sit these people in front of those things and just they press buttons. And all the lights are going on, so the little brain is getting activity. Ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding.

• 1:13:51Speaker 02

  My mother told me that my grandmother was like a big gambler and she also didn't have money. It's crazy, you know, when people who are poor gambling. And she would lose the money all the time, like the rent money. My grandfather used to hit her.

• 1:14:02Joe Rogan?

  Oh, God.

• 1:14:03Speaker 02

  I know, and I was like, "I guess he didn't hit her hard enough to learn this." Cuz she kept doing it.

• 1:14:08Joe Rogan?

  It didn't work.

• 1:14:10Speaker 02

  She just kept doing it.

• 1:14:11Joe Rogan?

  My grandmother used to run the numbers for the mom.

• 1:14:14Speaker 02

  Interesting.

• 1:14:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, she actually went to jail. She went to jail for like six months.

• 1:14:18Speaker 02

  You really are Italian. I didn't even know you're Italian.

• 1:14:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Yeah, my grandmother, um, she was addicted to the numbers and she would always talk about the numbers. Like, "I was gonna bet this, that, and that, but this one came through and I changed my mind." She was always like, "Change your mind at the last minute."

• 1:14:34Speaker 02

  That's gotta be the whole time, where you're just like, "Should I do this number, should I do that number?"

• 1:14:37Joe Rogan?

  It was, most conversations I had with her were about either ghosts, psychics, or the numbers.

• 1:14:44Speaker 02

  Do, I mean, do psychics work? Cause wouldn't you think they could predict the numbers?

• 1:14:49Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. I think, um, psychic phenomenon is an emerging property of human consciousness that's not quite there yet. I think that language didn't develop overnight. I think eyesight didn't develop overnight. And I think, uh, psychic connection between human beings is a, it's a real thing that nobody... I think some people are better at it. They have more of a gene for it, or more of a... It could be like a biochemistry thing. It could be a psychology thing. There's, there's a something that you connect to sometimes where you know something.

• 1:15:26Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:15:27Joe Rogan?

  But you don't know why you know it. There's, when you know someone's gonna call and then they call, you're thinking about someone and they call you. I think that's real. I think it's just not, you can't put it on a scale. I think the problem is it's too ethereal. It's like too ephemeral, rather. It's too... It's not quite there yet. But I think it's an emerging thing that's happening.

• 1:15:46Speaker 02

  Would you wanna know the day you're gonna die if you could find out?

• 1:15:49Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 1:15:50Speaker 02

  Would you wanna know how you're gonna die?

• 1:15:51Joe Rogan?

  No. No. I'm interested in while I'm alive, just living.

• 1:15:56Speaker 02

  I would, I would like to know the day.

• 1:15:58Joe Rogan?

  I wouldn't wanna know. I don't wanna know.

• 1:16:00Speaker 02

  Because then I would just take a lot more chances.

• 1:16:01Joe Rogan?

  You'd be freaking out the last few days.

• 1:16:03Speaker 02

  Sure, but like, I would probably do a lot of stuff now if I knew I was gonna die at like seventy or eighty.

• 1:16:09Joe Rogan?

  We probably are gonna die at seventy or eighty.

• 1:16:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, but you don't know for sure.

• 1:16:13Joe Rogan?

  Well, technology could come along and extend that quite a bit.

• 1:16:15Speaker 02

  Cause then I would try and see if I could die before. Just like run across the highway.

• 1:16:20Joe Rogan?

  Really? Like, just beat the system?

• 1:16:23Speaker 02

  See if I could beat the system.

• 1:16:24Joe Rogan?

  Well, you can always jump off a bridge. Imagine that.

• 1:16:26Speaker 02

  George Washington Bridge, if I was gonna do it, that's the best, that's the bridge to go off of.

• 1:16:30Joe Rogan?

  Do people do that?

• 1:16:31Speaker 02

  I'm sure they do. But you gotta do it when it screws enough people, like Labor Day weekend or something. Just hold that traffic up.

• 1:16:38Joe Rogan?

  I had a friend who jumped off the Golden Gate.

• 1:16:40Speaker 02

  I guess he died.

• 1:16:41Joe Rogan?

  He did.

• 1:16:42Speaker 02

  Do you ever see that documentary? About the people that live?

• 1:16:44Joe Rogan?

  I haven't seen it, but I've heard of it. I know about it, yeah.

• 1:16:46Speaker 02

  It's interesting, because some of the people that lived are like, as soon as you jump, you regret it.

• 1:16:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, of course. It's like, your body's like freaking out. It's like, oh my god.

• 1:16:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:16:54Joe Rogan?

  You have three seconds to think about life before you plummet seventy-five miles an hour into the ocean.

• 1:17:00Speaker 02

  They always stop traffic to on the bridge.

• 1:17:02Joe Rogan?

  Which is weird.

• 1:17:03Speaker 02

  Right, because you're like, they're already dead.

• 1:17:04Joe Rogan?

  Pop out of the water and land in the middle of the road.

• 1:17:06Speaker 02

  And look for them. What are we doing up here? Why can't I, why can't I go over the bridge?

• 1:17:10Joe Rogan?

  Why are you stopping traffic on the bridge? I guess it's to make sure that nobody pushed him.

• 1:17:15Joe Rogan?

  Look for evidence of like fingernails clawing at the poles.

• 1:17:18Speaker 02

  Sure, but like, the highway's fine, though.

• 1:17:22Joe Rogan?

  I agree.

• 1:17:22Speaker 02

  Just like, look on the edges.

• 1:17:24Joe Rogan?

  I think whenever they get a chance to shut things down, they like it.

• 1:17:27Speaker 02

  One time I got hit by a, um, a car, a drunk driver, and they shut the highway down. Everyone, all the cars are there, and you kind of just are like,

• 1:17:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:17:34Speaker 02

  It's amazing.

• 1:17:35Joe Rogan?

  This is all for me.

• 1:17:36Speaker 02

  We did this.

• 1:17:37Joe Rogan?

  Fuck you. It's kind of weird.

• 1:17:39Speaker 02

  You guys aren't picking your kids up.

• 1:17:40Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, sorry.

• 1:17:42Speaker 02

  Because this drunk driver decided to hit me.

• 1:17:43Joe Rogan?

  Oh, guess you're gonna shit your pants. Sorry. Not gonna make it home in time.

• 1:17:48Speaker 02

  That's true.

• 1:17:49Joe Rogan?

  Fuck yeah, it's true.

• 1:17:50Speaker 02

  I had a drunk driver hit my car, and then asked me if I would help them push their car off the highway.

• 1:17:55Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's adorable.

• 1:17:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, he was so wrecked.

• 1:17:57Joe Rogan?

  How drunk was he?

• 1:17:58Speaker 02

  I don't know. He, he went away in handcuffs, but like, he had an Audi, and he, it wasn't even his car.

• 1:18:03Joe Rogan?

  Oh, Jesus.

• 1:18:05Speaker 02

  He was undocumented.

• 1:18:06Joe Rogan?

  Oh, Jesus.

• 1:18:07Speaker 02

  I don't even know if, did he have a license? I don't know, but he was, it was crazy, the whole situation. He was like, hey, can you push me off the highway? I was like, probably not.

• 1:18:14Joe Rogan?

  God damn, dude. That's how people die, too. Buddy of mine from high school died that way. He was changing his tire side of a highway.

• 1:18:22Speaker 02

  That's crazy.

• 1:18:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. It's so dangerous. People don't fucking pay attention.

• 1:18:26Speaker 02

  They don't, especially if it's late at night.

• 1:18:27Joe Rogan?

  Well, especially now. This was many years ago, before cell phones, when this kid died. But this, like, now? The odds are, like, when I see people on motorcycles, I'm like, god damn, that's so risky.

• 1:18:39Speaker 02

  It's very risky.

• 1:18:40Joe Rogan?

  So few people are paying attention. I see people texting all the time.

• 1:18:44Speaker 02

  Everyone is texting all the time. I would rather drive with drunk drivers than people texting and driving. Cause they're always all over the road.

• 1:18:50Joe Rogan?

  All over the road, and not only that, the amount of space you cover. While you look down at your phone for like a couple of seconds and type in a word. The amount of space you cover if you're going sixty miles an hour is really crazy.

• 1:19:02Speaker 02

  Of course, and then you're also not paying attention to the other people who are texting and driving.

• 1:19:06Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 1:19:06Speaker 02

  It really is just like.

• 1:19:08Joe Rogan?

  Chaos.

• 1:19:09Speaker 02

  Maybe I'll get home, maybe I won't.

• 1:19:11Joe Rogan?

  Why don't we all have bumper cars? Let me ask you that.

• 1:19:14Speaker 02

  I think, um.

• 1:19:15Joe Rogan?

  Wouldn't it be better if everybody had a big rubber thing all around the outside of the car? So we could just kind of bounce off of each other?

• 1:19:21Speaker 02

  Probably, that would be a good idea, but then you also need people to die, cause like we're just too overpopulated.

• 1:19:26Joe Rogan?

  That's where fentanyl comes in.

• 1:19:27Speaker 02

  Fentanyl, exactly. Give everyone fentanyl.

• 1:19:32Joe Rogan?

  Um, like if you were gonna fix the homeless problem and you weren't gonna use fentanyl, what would you do?

• 1:19:39Speaker 02

  I'm giving them fentanyl, cause it's like a nice way to go out.

• 1:19:41Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:19:42Speaker 02

  It's quick.

• 1:19:43Joe Rogan?

  It is quick.

• 1:19:43Speaker 02

  And you're so happy, and then you're dead.

• 1:19:45Joe Rogan?

  They have Narcan everywhere though, they just bring people back to life. But the thing is, it's like.

• 1:19:49Speaker 02

  I never see Narcan anywhere.

• 1:19:51Joe Rogan?

  If you weren't going to, like if you, like for real, if you were trying, if you were just objective. You weren't looking at this in terms of like what's the kind thing to do, and you wanted to clean up the homeless situation.

• 1:20:02Speaker 02

  Well, you have to spend a lot of money on mental health.

• 1:20:05Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:20:05Speaker 02

  You know, you have to like care about the veterans. I like, I have a whole joke about this on my special about how like we don't really care about veterans. And I've dated a lot of them, a lot of veterans that like come back and they're so screwed up.

• 1:20:16Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:16Speaker 02

  And we're not like actually helping them.

• 1:20:19Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 1:20:19Speaker 02

  And a lot of them end up on the street and they're crazy, but they need like a lot of, you know, like mental health and they have to. You have to like kind of figure out how to go back into society.

• 1:20:29Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:20:30Speaker 02

  Like I've dated several veterans and like they're crazy understandably, you know?

• 1:20:34Joe Rogan?

  Understandable.

• 1:20:35Speaker 02

  You can't go to war for like eight years and then come back and work at Target. Like it's just not a way that that happens.

• 1:20:40Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:20:41Speaker 02

  So you would have to be willing to like help veterans, you'd have to spend money on mental health and you have that. But this is the problem is like doing those things doesn't really yield a lot of money. So people don't want to waste their money into it.

• 1:20:51Joe Rogan?

  That's what's fucked up.

• 1:20:52Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:20:53Joe Rogan?

  They do whatever they can get away with. And if they get away with like using the veterans and not paying for them to be better, they just do.

• 1:21:00Speaker 02

  Also, everyone's like, well, they can go to a VA hospital. It's like, I've seen how hard it is to get services from there and that's a person that's not really crazy and messed up from war.

• 1:21:09Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:21:09Speaker 02

  So it's like you're making it so hard for these people that go and serve the country.

• 1:21:13Joe Rogan?

  I know.

• 1:21:15Joe Rogan?

  I talked to J D Vance about this. Talked to him about psychedelics.

• 1:21:19Speaker 02

  What did he say?

• 1:21:20Joe Rogan?

  Well, he wasn't aware of it, honestly. And so he was interested in it. And hopefully, um, now that he's actually the vice president, I could connect him with some people that could, um, perhaps show him some things and explain to him, uh, all the different ways that they've figured out, especially in other countries like in Mexico, to help veterans. Um, Ibogaine's a big one. Ibogaine, psilocybin, ayahuasca, all these different psychedelics have shown to have remarkable effects.

• 1:21:48Speaker 02

  Even for depression, I think people take it. They microdose.

• 1:21:51Joe Rogan?

  Yep. Well, not just microdose, like the, the Ibogaine one is, I've never done that, but what I understand, it's like, almost like a 24 hour, you want some more? It's like a 24 hour experience.

• 1:22:04Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 1:22:04Joe Rogan?

  That shows you like a movie of your life.

• 1:22:08Speaker 02

  I don't want to see that.

• 1:22:09Joe Rogan?

  If it shows you, well, it shows you apparently, and I'm, this is just me hearing what other people have told me. But it explains to you why you have these problems and shows to you what, what developed, where the, the issue started.

• 1:22:22Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 1:22:23Joe Rogan?

  And by seeing that, you could figure it out. You go, oh, okay. Well, I won't do that anymore. Now I get it. Now I get what this hole I've been trying to fill is.

• 1:22:32Speaker 02

  Mm hmm.

• 1:22:33Joe Rogan?

  I don't need to fill the hole anymore.

• 1:22:34Speaker 02

  I don't, but that's the thing, like, I feel like I know what was like probably wrong in my childhood. I know that, but it doesn't like. Fix me.

• 1:22:40Joe Rogan?

  Right, it's different. Um, it's not just knowing it. It's like seeing it at almost like a subatomic level.

• 1:22:49Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:22:50Joe Rogan?

  Seeing the process, seeing what's going on inside of you and recognize that this is a very bad path to follow. Not just knowing it and still doing it, not just like not being able to get out of a habit, not being able to get out of a pattern of behavior. But to see like the source of it, the path, where it takes you, and the right way to go. And to see it laid out, where you go, oh, I could just do this and just like let that go and move on and be a better person, be a healthier person, be happier.

• 1:23:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:23:21Joe Rogan?

  And so many people that I know have done that. They've stopped drinking, stopped opiates. You know, opioids is a big one. It's a big one that it helps. Ibogaine does. And ibogaine is like completely non-addictive. Apparently it's a terrible experience and nobody wants to do it again.

• 1:23:36Speaker 02

  Ibogaine?

• 1:23:37Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you do it.

• 1:23:38Speaker 02

  What is it?

• 1:23:38Joe Rogan?

  It's from the aboga tree, which is an African tree that had, it's a very bizarre, I don't know what category of psychedelic it's in, but it's not technically, it's not like psilocybin, it's not, which is mushrooms, it's not like dimethyltryptamine, which is ayahuasca. It's something completely different, some different pathway, but particularly effective. Again, I've never tried it, but everybody I've talked to that has, particularly effective in curing addictions.

• 1:24:08Speaker 02

  Interesting. I've never heard of that.

• 1:24:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I know quite a few guys. My friend Ed Clay, he actually opened up a place in Mexico because he hurt his back. He's a jujitsu guy. A lot of jujitsu guys fuck their backs up, like my back's all fucked up. And then you go to, yeah, you get an operation or you get a pill. You know, you need some pain pills because you literally can't tie your shoes because your fucking back is flared up. And the next thing you know, you're hooked. And thanks to the Sackler family, those sweeties.

• 1:24:36Speaker 02

  They made so much money though.

• 1:24:37Joe Rogan?

  Those fucking monsters. We were just talking the other day about they, they started the Valium thing too. They were responsible for the Valium thing in the 1970s. Same family. It's a family of demons.

• 1:24:49Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 1:24:50Joe Rogan?

  Just fucking monsters and no one's in jail.

• 1:24:54Speaker 02

  I watched a documentary, I guess it was about the Sackler family with-

• 1:24:57Joe Rogan?

  Was it the Netflix one?

• 1:24:58Speaker 02

  I don't know, there was a couple, there was one on I think Hulu and there were, or, and then there was one also on Netflix.

• 1:25:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there was Dope Sick-

• 1:25:05Speaker 02

  I watched Dope Sick, that was very good.

• 1:25:06Joe Rogan?

  What was the Netflix one, one called, Jamie? Painkiller? Is that what it's called? That's the Peter Berg one. Peter Berg came in and explained it all to us and talked about the documentary. It's fucking great. It's so good because it's like, they're such demons. And just to know that people like that exist and walk amongst us. That's it, Painkiller.

• 1:25:27Speaker 02

  Well, listen, speaking of Netflix, go watch-

• 1:25:28Joe Rogan?

  Matthew Broderick fucking kills it in that too.

• 1:25:31Speaker 02

  Go watch my Netflix special.

• 1:25:32Joe Rogan?

  Yes!

• 1:25:33Speaker 02

  The Dark Queen.

• 1:25:34Joe Rogan?

  The Netflix special. Tell her, where'd you film it?

• 1:25:36Speaker 02

  We filmed it at The Cellar.

• 1:25:37Joe Rogan?

  Oh, nice. Nice. That must be good for you, right? Comfortable?

• 1:25:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, just because I'm used to it, but I gotta tell you, like, your club is amazing. I love it.

• 1:25:44Joe Rogan?

  Thank you.

• 1:25:45Speaker 02

  I would definitely film something-

• 1:25:46Joe Rogan?

  Well, we love you too.

• 1:25:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, I would definitely film my next one there.

• 1:25:48Joe Rogan?

  Everyone's been trying to get you to move here.

• 1:25:50Speaker 02

  I'm gonna be moving here.

• 1:25:52Joe Rogan?

  Oh shit!

• 1:25:52Speaker 02

  I'm gonna come here, um, probably like a little bit in December, then I'm going to LA to promote The Dark Queen, and then I'll be here in January.

• 1:25:59Joe Rogan?

  Oh shit!

• 1:26:00Speaker 02

  I know.

• 1:26:01Joe Rogan?

  Nice!

• 1:26:02Speaker 02

  And I'll be seeing Marshall all the time.

• 1:26:04Joe Rogan?

  So the last time I talked to you about this was in the bar at Mitzi's. You, me, and Bridget.

• 1:26:07Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 1:26:08Joe Rogan?

  Do we help?

• 1:26:08Speaker 02

  Ari's been like-

• 1:26:09Joe Rogan?

  Do we push over the top?

• 1:26:10Speaker 02

  Well, Ari, Ari was like, said the meanest thing to me.

• 1:26:13Joe Rogan?

  Wanna see the text that Ari sent me?

• 1:26:14Speaker 02

  Sure, yeah.

• 1:26:15Joe Rogan?

  He sent me a text, like, Adrian's coming to Austin, convince her to move there.

• 1:26:19Speaker 02

  He's telling everyone that. He's like, he goes, "Well, fine, just be a feature the rest of your life." I was like, "All right, Ari, I get it."

• 1:26:28Joe Rogan?

  I'll find it.

• 1:26:31Joe Rogan?

  Fuck, there's too many, there's too many goddamn-

• 1:26:34Speaker 02

  But Ari, Ari's excited for the special, he's like, "I think everyone's gonna be really upset." I was like, "I hope so." I, listen, I want people to like it, but I also know that, like, it's triggered topics that people are gonna be upset by.

• 1:26:46Joe Rogan?

  Of course, but that's your specialty.

• 1:26:48Speaker 02

  I know. It's weird to-

• 1:26:50Joe Rogan?

  You like doing that.

• 1:26:50Speaker 02

  But that's the thing, I think people think I'm trying to like, be dark, it's just kinda who I am.

• 1:26:56Joe Rogan?

  Well, you joke around like that offstage as well.

• 1:26:59Speaker 02

  Right!

• 1:27:00Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:00Speaker 02

  Like, and I think nothing of saying it.

• 1:27:02Joe Rogan?

  Well, if you were raised by a guy who took you to a smoke-filled off-track betting when you were a little girl, when little girls wanna go to the park-

• 1:27:09Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 1:27:10Joe Rogan?

  And hang with their friends, and instead you're around a bunch of fucking gamblers and degenerates.

• 1:27:13Speaker 02

  I mean, yeah, my uncle was a-

• 1:27:15Joe Rogan?

  That's the kinda humor.

• 1:27:16Speaker 02

  My uncle was a hell's angel. Like, it's just my whole, everyone's crazy in my family.

• 1:27:19Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:20Speaker 02

  So it's like-

• 1:27:21Joe Rogan?

  It's the way you make fun.

• 1:27:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, and I had a friend in grammar school that killed himself and we all went to the funeral and then went out after and all of our sense of humor is so dark. And you're like, oh, that's also where I got it.

• 1:27:32Joe Rogan?

  Where was this?

• 1:27:33Speaker 02

  Uh, in the Bronx.

• 1:27:34Joe Rogan?

  The Bronx, yeah. Well, the Bronx is, that's a high sense of humor type of place, because there's just so much fucked up things going on.

• 1:27:40Speaker 02

  Right, and everyone's like kinda poor.

• 1:27:42Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and they have the darkest senses of humor, because they've experienced the most.

• 1:27:46Speaker 02

  My mom also has a dark sense of humor.

• 1:27:48Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 1:27:49Speaker 02

  Yeah. So like, it's, it's just that's kind of passed down, I think.

• 1:27:54Joe Rogan?

  Well, I think your mom probably experienced a lot of fucked up things too, obviously, and she was married to your dad, so that helps.

• 1:27:59Speaker 02

  She married to my dad.

• 1:28:01Joe Rogan?

  Cops have the most fucked up sense of humor. Joke around with cops. Once they get comfortable with you.

• 1:28:06Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:28:06Joe Rogan?

  They see the worst shit all day long.

• 1:28:10Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 1:28:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they have the most fucked up senses of humor.

• 1:28:13Speaker 02

  So do firemen.

• 1:28:14Joe Rogan?

  A hundred percent, yep.

• 1:28:16Speaker 02

  Anyone that has like a high PTSD, anyone that has a high P, what is it, PTSD?

• 1:28:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:21Speaker 02

  And I date a lot of guys with PTSD.

• 1:28:23Joe Rogan?

  That's your thing?

• 1:28:23Speaker 02

  And I just give them more. It's a cycle of PTSD. All should be hospitalized and institutionalized.

• 1:28:30Joe Rogan?

  Do you meet guys after shows? Like, how do you meet them? Like, they kinda have to know what you do before they see you, otherwise they're gonna go, oh, Jesus Christ.

• 1:28:38Speaker 02

  I mean, I've had people like that, I think the tour preparing for the special was hard because it was just people coming out that didn't know my sense of humor. And if you don't know that and you're taking a chance on me, I'm not like that person to take a chance on.

• 1:28:51Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:28:52Speaker 02

  Or I think sometimes they're like supporting a woman and I'm like, I'm not the right woman to take a chance on and support.

• 1:28:59Speaker 02

  You're just not gonna be happy.

• 1:29:01Joe Rogan?

  He's gonna be so mad at you.

• 1:29:03Speaker 02

  I've had people walk out. I did that military joke in Texas.

• 1:29:06Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:29:07Speaker 02

  And like twenty cowboys just walked out. And I wasn't even saying anything bad about the military. I'm like, we just don't care. We don't care about them.

• 1:29:15Joe Rogan?

  Some people are just dumb and they see it as they're, this is my chance to make a protest, let me just get up right now.

• 1:29:20Speaker 02

  But they, they hung in so long through the show, whereas like.

• 1:29:24Joe Rogan?

  That one was it?

• 1:29:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was probably fifty minutes in.

• 1:29:27Joe Rogan?

  Did you crack jokes about Jesus at all?

• 1:29:29Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 1:29:30Joe Rogan?

  And they were fine with that? Maybe they were on the edge.

• 1:29:32Speaker 02

  They didn't walk.

• 1:29:33Joe Rogan?

  Maybe Jesus put them to the edge of their sheet.

• 1:29:35Speaker 02

  It's, it's interesting because both sides have woke things they're upset about.

• 1:29:39Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:29:39Speaker 02

  You know? I walk people about Ukraine, the Middle East. I was doing jokes about the Middle East and this lady was like, next.

• 1:29:45Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:29:47Speaker 02

  And you're like, no.

• 1:29:48Joe Rogan?

  I used to have this joke about the Second Coming Project.

• 1:29:51Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:29:51Joe Rogan?

  The second, do you know what the Second Coming Project was?

• 1:29:53Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:29:54Joe Rogan?

  It was a thing that they were trying to do, remember when Dolly the Sheep, when they first cloned Dolly the Sheep?

• 1:29:58Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:29:59Joe Rogan?

  Well, the idea was that they would take genetic material from the Shroud of Turin and they would clone Jesus.

• 1:30:06Speaker 02

  Great, do it.

• 1:30:07Joe Rogan?

  And my joke was, well, cloning is not an exact science. Like, if you want to do it now, like, they had to do like twenty dollies before they got one dolly, like, before it was real. A lot of them come out all fucked up, like, what happens if you clone Jesus and he comes back with Down Syndrome? And so this, the whole joke is about-

• 1:30:23Speaker 02

  You kill him anyway, you have to kill Jesus.

• 1:30:25Joe Rogan?

  Following Jesus around and he's, you know, wearing a hockey helmet and turning dog shit into cookies.

• 1:30:30Speaker 02

  So did they actually do it?

• 1:30:31Joe Rogan?

  No, they never did it.

• 1:30:32Speaker 02

  Oh, okay.

• 1:30:33Joe Rogan?

  It, it, it's kind of a bullshit thing, but, um, this lady goes, "Next subject!", and I just kept going on with it. I was like, no.

• 1:30:41Speaker 02

  Religious people are so weird to me.

• 1:30:42Joe Rogan?

  It's not even a religious thing, it's just some people just, they, they don't want to hear wild things. They want to, don't want to hear things you're not supposed to say, they don't hear them all day at work.

• 1:30:52Speaker 02

  That's fine.

• 1:30:52Joe Rogan?

  And they come out in a comedy club and they want to sort of apply their sensibility.

• 1:30:57Speaker 02

  But like, if you're willing to believe a wild story like that, how about believe this other wild thing could happen too?

• 1:31:02Joe Rogan?

  Well, the thing is, it's not, it wasn't totally a wild story, I think it was people that were ignorant as to the science, um, that were proposing it because they thought this would be the pathway to bring Jesus back.

• 1:31:14Speaker 02

  What is Jesus gonna be doing anyway?

• 1:31:17Joe Rogan?

  Well, who knows? I mean, depending upon what that means, right? If that is the pathway, let's, let's just imagine, okay, everybody is thinking, um, if you're really religious, you believe that one day we'll have the rapture and Jesus will return.

• 1:31:31Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:31:32Joe Rogan?

  So, if God created us in His image and God instilled in us an insane sense of curiosity that has led people to create things like genetic engineering and cloning. And then we have an understanding of genetic material, not where we are now, but maybe in a future sense, where you could literally get a cotton swab from a person and reproduce them.

• 1:31:56Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 1:31:56Joe Rogan?

  Like, they, that's all they need, or cotton swab's all they need for twenty-three and mate, right? You get a little swab in your mouth and they sell your data to China. And then, but that-

• 1:32:06Speaker 02

  I would never do that.

• 1:32:07Joe Rogan?

  I did it, I just wanted to know what was going on, it was all things I knew.

• 1:32:10Speaker 02

  What did you find out?

• 1:32:11Joe Rogan?

  Um, mostly Italian, um, some Irish, uh, one percent Asian, one point six percent African.

• 1:32:18Speaker 02

  You're eight, one percent Asian?

• 1:32:19Joe Rogan?

  One percent Asian, one point six percent African, yeah. I would think the Asians probably like Genghis Khan shit. I think Genghis Khan just fucked so many people. It's just gotten to so many people, so many different places.

• 1:32:28Speaker 02

  Crazy.

• 1:32:29Joe Rogan?

  It's crazy, yeah. That guy fucked everybody. He had, um, there, we've talked about it before, but I always forget the number. There's a certain percentage of people on earth that have his DNA and it's astounding. It's an astounding number.

• 1:32:42Speaker 02

  Pretty cool.

• 1:32:43Joe Rogan?

  Well, he also killed ten percent of the population while he was alive.

• 1:32:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, and that's why he was like repopulating them.

• 1:32:49Joe Rogan?

  Well, took a lot of slaves, sex slaves. They called, called them wives back in those days. It was different. But when they would conquer people, he'd just take their wives, take everybody's wife.

• 1:32:58Speaker 02

  I mean, it sounds like the thing you should do.

• 1:33:00Joe Rogan?

  That was his move.

• 1:33:03Speaker 02

  It's not bad.

• 1:33:04Joe Rogan?

  It's interesting that all these years later, and you know, he's thought, he's not thought of as a monster. He's thought of as like a historic figure.

• 1:33:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean.

• 1:33:11Joe Rogan?

  He was Hitler times a hundred, like.

• 1:33:13Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 1:33:13Joe Rogan?

  He was fucking insane, like, they, they used to light bodies on fire and then use them as catapults. They would, uh, launch them onto roofs to burn the roofs down. That's, uh, that's how they would scare people, just take victims.

• 1:33:26Speaker 02

  Crazy, a crazy way of like doing that.

• 1:33:29Joe Rogan?

  They did so many insane things. One of the things they did was when they would capture a city, they would take the generals and the, all the, all the different people. And they would, um, create a platform and lay all these people out and then stack the platform on top of them. Then they would all climb on top of the platform and eat. So they would eat lunch while they were crushing these people to death slowly.

• 1:33:54Speaker 02

  That's crazy. Were the people dead already?

• 1:33:56Joe Rogan?

  No, no, no. They killed them that way. Yeah. I think that's how he killed royals. That was his, his move for killing royal people. Like, instead of just slaughtering them outright and hacking them, they would just kind of crush them. They had a bunch of different ways that they would kill people. They would take, um, when they would capture people, they would use those people a- at the front of the line and push them towards their own army. So they would sack a city, capture a hundred thousand people, take those hundred thousand people and put them at the front line and press them to go further into the city. And those people would just get slaughtered in front of them and they would eventually. Kill everybody there.

• 1:34:32Speaker 02

  It's crazy.

• 1:34:33Joe Rogan?

  It was so crazy that there's a guy named Dan Carlin. He's got an amazing show called Hardcore History. And he's got this one episode called The Wrath of the Khan. It's not, it's five episodes, but this one series. And it's all about Genghis Khan. And one of the stories is about the Shah of Chorisma. Um, this Shah is making a, he's making a trek to Jin China to like, to see like, what's going on over there. Like, what do you guys got? Talk to the king and see what's happening in your, whoever the fuck's running your city. And as they're going there, um, the roads were so fucked up with decayed bodies that they had abandoned the roads because all their wagons were getting stuck in the mud of decaying people.

• 1:35:15Joe Rogan?

  And they looked in the distance, they thought it was a snow-covered mountain that they were looking at way in the distance. It turns out it was a pile of bodies. They'd killed a million people and just stacked them on top of each other in the middle of the town. They killed the entire city. They killed everyone.

• 1:35:30Speaker 02

  That's crazy and there's no one to clean up the bodies.

• 1:35:33Joe Rogan?

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• 1:37:38Speaker 02

  It's wild.

• 1:37:42Joe Rogan?

  Imagine living back then.

• 1:37:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, I know. Your wheelbarrow is getting stuck in someone's head.

• 1:37:47Joe Rogan?

  I know, yeah. If people were taking gender studies in class today, back then, back then, they were fucking just running for their lives.

• 1:37:57Speaker 02

  It's crazy.

• 1:37:58Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:38:00Speaker 02

  I guess that we get to do stuff that's sometimes so dumb and like people are like just fighting to stay alive.

• 1:38:05Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's also interesting that like over time that becomes less and less acceptable. Like the horrors of Gaza, when we find out about it today, like everyone's outraged. Back then, wouldn't be the same type of horrors, obviously, because they didn't have missiles. But horrors are just horrors.

• 1:38:21Speaker 02

  Sure, yeah. You're just killing people.

• 1:38:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. And so it's way grosser today.

• 1:38:27Speaker 02

  Well, it's because we also have photos and everything of it, right?

• 1:38:30Joe Rogan?

  From like- Back then, they, they saw it in real life, which is way worse.

• 1:38:35Speaker 02

  But you had to be there to see it, right?

• 1:38:37Joe Rogan?

  Right. But if you were alive in 1200, let's imagine you and I were alive in 1200. How many people do you think we would have seen get slaughtered with swords and arrows and shit in front of us by now?

• 1:38:47Speaker 02

  Probably a ton. It becomes desensitized, do it.

• 1:38:50Joe Rogan?

  It becomes a, it becomes a thing.

• 1:38:52Speaker 02

  Like when I first started watching The Walking, uh, what is it?

• 1:38:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, Walking Dead.

• 1:38:55Speaker 02

  Walking Dead, you're like, I can't believe they just did that. And then two episodes in, you're like, oh, this is normal to me. And it's gotta be kind of what it would have been like back then. You watch someone's head get blown off and now you're like- Oh yeah, that's just like a Tuesday.

• 1:39:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, people get real accustomed to things and if you're real accustomed to barbaric living and slaughtering people and fire and launching them and catapults onto the thatched roofs of these houses and watch them burn.

• 1:39:21Speaker 02

  Right, you can't imagine not doing that if that's all you say.

• 1:39:24Joe Rogan?

  It's what you do.

• 1:39:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:39:25Joe Rogan?

  That's what we do.

• 1:39:26Speaker 02

  That's just what we do.

• 1:39:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they didn't wash, they wore their clothes until they rotted off of their skin.

• 1:39:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, I think if they're like catapulting dead bodies, it's like who cares what you're wearing.

• 1:39:37Joe Rogan?

  Sometimes they just lived off the blood of their horses. They would just drink the horse's blood and that's what they sustain themselves with.

• 1:39:44Speaker 02

  But then you just need your horse to like travel.

• 1:39:47Joe Rogan?

  Horse keeps eating, you don't kill them. You just cut a little nick in their neck.

• 1:39:50Speaker 02

  And you just suck a horse's blood?

• 1:39:53Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's what they would do. They would take it and put it in a jug.

• 1:39:55Speaker 02

  You really could survive, like if you were just somewhere by yourself. You, I don't think I could, but I think you could survive.

• 1:40:04Joe Rogan?

  I would need stuff.

• 1:40:05Speaker 02

  You need a horse.

• 1:40:06Joe Rogan?

  You need stuff. You need, you need physical things, like you need shelter and knives and you need something you start a fire with. You need something that you can hunt with.

• 1:40:16Speaker 02

  But if I had that same stuff, I would be dead and you would thrive.

• 1:40:20Joe Rogan?

  I wouldn't thrive.

• 1:40:22Speaker 02

  You would survive.

• 1:40:23Joe Rogan?

  For a little while.

• 1:40:24Speaker 02

  I didn't know you could drink horse's blood.

• 1:40:25Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but you gotta keep that horse alive and then you have, the horse is gonna die.

• 1:40:32Joe Rogan?

  The horses don't eat meat.

• 1:40:34Speaker 02

  They don't?

• 1:40:35Joe Rogan?

  No, they do occasionally eat birds.

• 1:40:37Speaker 02

  What if they're starving? They won't eat like a person?

• 1:40:40Joe Rogan?

  No, no, they're not interested in rotting bodies. They're, they're herbivores, but they do occasionally eat birds. There's this really fucked up, uh, video of this horse following this bir- or it's a cow, following this bird around. I've seen horses do it too, where they found like a ground nesting bird and they just eat it. And the mother bird's like flying at them, pecking at them, like shut the fuck up, I'm eating your baby.

• 1:41:04Speaker 02

  At least she tried.

• 1:41:05Joe Rogan?

  Deer do it all the time. Deer do it, it's so bad, like they had this net that they use to catch birds. And the deer found the birds in the net. And so the deer would just go up to the net and feast like, like a grapevine.

• 1:41:20Speaker 02

  Right, like a buffet.

• 1:41:21Joe Rogan?

  Eat all these birds. And that's when we started understanding that if a deer catches a bird, slip it and they just eat them.

• 1:41:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, why wouldn't you?

• 1:41:28Joe Rogan?

  Because they eat plants.

• 1:41:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, but like a bird is kind of like caviar to them, probably.

• 1:41:33Joe Rogan?

  Probably.

• 1:41:34Speaker 02

  They're like, mm, delicious.

• 1:41:35Joe Rogan?

  Yes, a little foie gras.

• 1:41:38Speaker 02

  Don't mind if I do.

• 1:41:40Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, have you ever seen cows eat birds?

• 1:41:43Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:41:43Joe Rogan?

  Find a video of cows eating birds.

• 1:41:45Speaker 02

  I've only seen cows eat, eat grass.

• 1:41:46Joe Rogan?

  And they eat birds. It disturbs the shit out of people who are like peaceful. They're like, you know, I think the less suffering we have, the better.

• 1:41:53Speaker 02

  But also a bird can fly away, it's kind of their fault.

• 1:41:57Joe Rogan?

  Well, not babies.

• 1:41:59Speaker 02

  Survival of the fittest, you're dead. You're now dead.

• 1:42:01Joe Rogan?

  It's probably nature's way of keeping baby birds from overwhelming us.

• 1:42:05Speaker 02

  Why wouldn't you put your bird dust higher? It's on the mom.

• 1:42:08Joe Rogan?

  Look at this, look at this cow.

• 1:42:10Speaker 02

  Oh yeah, he's going right into his mouth.

• 1:42:12Joe Rogan?

  Yep, chomp, chomp, chomp. Oh yum, yum, yum. Isn't it so weird that they decide that they want to eat that? Just weird. It's weird that they just decide, look at the little kid.

• 1:42:22Speaker 02

  Right, why wouldn't you just eat the kid?

• 1:42:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:42:24Speaker 02

  If you're gonna eat that bird.

• 1:42:25Joe Rogan?

  Kid comes with people, people have guns. They figure it out after a while.

• 1:42:28Speaker 02

  You think so? They know the guns are coming?

• 1:42:30Joe Rogan?

  They know that people can kill them. I definitely think they know the people are in control. I don't think they feel a sense of power where they're gonna attack the kid.

• 1:42:36Speaker 02

  Also, you can eat that kid in one gulp.

• 1:42:39Joe Rogan?

  Right, people are gonna know.

• 1:42:40Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:42:41Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:42:41Speaker 02

  If you could just eat it in one gulp.

• 1:42:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but you just swallow the kid. I don't want to have any good. She says I ate, I didn't eat nothing.

• 1:42:48Speaker 02

  I'll help you look.

• 1:42:49Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:42:50Speaker 02

  Let's all look. You have a shoe in your mouth.

• 1:42:53Joe Rogan?

  I will help you look. Well, that was a legitimate concern for people hundreds of years ago. Your, your kid would get eaten.

• 1:43:00Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 1:43:00Joe Rogan?

  If it was out in the yard, wolves, I mean, that's like the big bad wolf, that's what all that shit was. Little red riding horse.

• 1:43:05Speaker 02

  Imagine like your kid survives cholera and then it just gets eaten.

• 1:43:11Speaker 02

  I can't believe that.

• 1:43:13Joe Rogan?

  Right, like that's not even that long ago that people were dying of cholera.

• 1:43:16Speaker 02

  How many years you think that was?

• 1:43:17Joe Rogan?

  Oh, who knows? I mean, how many different fucking diseases killed people just because of poor sanitation? That's what a lot of that stuff came from.

• 1:43:24Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 1:43:25Joe Rogan?

  A lot of that stuff came from poor sanitation. I mean, just think about how many people were just dying in these cities because of the plague, because they'd throw their shit out the windows.

• 1:43:36Speaker 02

  I mean.

• 1:43:36Joe Rogan?

  And there'd be rats and bugs.

• 1:43:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think I would learn pretty quickly if I threw my shit out the window once that like that's not great.

• 1:43:44Joe Rogan?

  I think you would think that, but there's people in India that shit in the street to this day.

• 1:43:48Speaker 02

  I mean, I watched a video where there's like a parade and they're just throwing shit. Like, that's part of the parade.

• 1:43:53Joe Rogan?

  That doesn't... Is that in India?

• 1:43:55Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:43:56Speaker 03

  Cow dung festival or something.

• 1:43:57Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:43:58Joe Rogan?

  Oh, cow shit's like a different kind of shit. It's gross, but it's not like human shit. Human shit is the nastiest shit.

• 1:44:04Speaker 02

  I'm sure you don't think anyone's mixing human shit in at this dung festival?

• 1:44:06Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I bet they're not.

• 1:44:08Speaker 02

  I bet they're like, hey, let's spice it up.

• 1:44:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but it's not pure, dog.

• 1:44:11Speaker 03

  It's not as clean as you think, maybe.

• 1:44:12Joe Rogan?

  Oh, Jesus Christ, just throwing at each other. Imagine, like, this is what you sign up for and they're all smiling?

• 1:44:18Speaker 02

  I don't get the appeal.

• 1:44:20Joe Rogan?

  Oh, I don't know. Maybe how like, you know, if you eat a lot of sugar, you get that candida, and maybe if you play with shit enough, you get that shit bacteria.

• 1:44:31Speaker 02

  I mean, their teeth look so white because they're covered in shit.

• 1:44:34Joe Rogan?

  They're just covered in shit. Guys, shower up, this is ridiculous. We had to deal with the infections from the cow dung.

• 1:44:43Speaker 02

  How are they not... What is going on here?

• 1:44:46Joe Rogan?

  We won't get any infections from the cow dung, he says. Wait, what does he say? What was his statement?

• 1:44:51Speaker 03

  Because of the coronavirus and other viruses.

• 1:44:52Joe Rogan?

  But back it up before that? Okay, here. Heaps of cow dung are brought in one place, we all play in it. We have had to deal with the coronavirus and other viruses.

• 1:45:05Joe Rogan?

  So we believe we won't get any infections from the cow dung.

• 1:45:08Speaker 02

  I mean, you see this and then you're like, you know what, it's not that bad that we're doing unboxing videos.

• 1:45:13Joe Rogan?

  I mean, these are kind of, these guys are basically content creators.

• 1:45:17Speaker 02

  They are content creators, but they don't know that. They don't know that we're watching these videos. I mean, can you imagine just being in there and just throwing shit at someone?

• 1:45:27Joe Rogan?

  How do they not know now, though?

• 1:45:30Speaker 02

  I don't know. I don't think that's an old video either.

• 1:45:33Joe Rogan?

  Do you see when, um, like, they give Amazon Tribes Starlink and they give them phones?

• 1:45:38Speaker 02

  You said Amazon, I just thought of Amazon, like, that I order stuff from.

• 1:45:40Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. Not the other one.

• 1:45:43Speaker 02

  I just want regular Amazon that brings, I order stuff from Amazon that's like a three dollar thing and somebody's driving to my house and dropping off, like, whatever it is, floss.

• 1:45:53Joe Rogan?

  They figured it out. I never buy toothbrushes from the fucking store. I just click a link. Bam.

• 1:45:59Speaker 02

  But it's like so, I'm spending such little money for stuff that someone's driving to my house to drop it off.

• 1:46:05Joe Rogan?

  Eventually, it's just gonna be drones.

• 1:46:08Speaker 02

  I mean,

• 1:46:10Speaker 02

  drop it off at your head.

• 1:46:11Joe Rogan?

  Drop it off at your house. And then there's people that's, that's the, those are some of the grossest people, people that steal people's packages.

• 1:46:17Speaker 02

  Especially during the holidays.

• 1:46:19Joe Rogan?

  You don't even know what's in there.

• 1:46:21Speaker 02

  But that's the fun you get and you're like, this could be a TV. This could be an iPhone, it could all, it could also just be toothbrushes.

• 1:46:29Joe Rogan?

  There's so many funny videos of people getting busted, you know?

• 1:46:32Speaker 02

  I've, I've seen them, yeah. People just stealing videos for like Christmas.

• 1:46:36Joe Rogan?

  If you live in a neighborhood where someone steals your packages, that's such a shitty feeling. There's fucking people in your neighborhood that are clocking what's getting dropped off at your house.

• 1:46:45Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:46:46Joe Rogan?

  Chris Rock used to have a bit about, um, putting, uh, if you bought a new TV, like, you had to be careful putting the box out on the street in the garbage, because people would know you have a new TV.

• 1:46:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:46:56Joe Rogan?

  And then want to break in your house and steal your TV.

• 1:46:58Speaker 02

  I mean, now TVs are like worth nothing.

• 1:47:00Joe Rogan?

  They're worth nothing. TVs, I remember in nineteen ninety-four, when I first moved here, I got a big TV for the first time. It was fucking big. It was like this big.

• 1:47:10Speaker 02

  Nineteen ninety-four was a great year.

• 1:47:11Joe Rogan?

  It was like twenty-four inches. But it was like, yeah, to pick it up, like it was a giant ass TV, like it had a whole back to it.

• 1:47:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was humongous.

• 1:47:18Joe Rogan?

  And then it was one of those years, like ninety-four, ninety-five, they came out with a plasma TV. And it was twenty thousand dollars. And it was like forty inches and flat. And because it was flat, it looked like shit, it didn't even look good. Because it was forty inches and flat, it was like twenty thousand dollars. I remember thinking, that is the dumbest thing, like, I'm paying twenty thousand dollars for this space behind the TV.

• 1:47:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:47:42Joe Rogan?

  I don't give a fuck if there's space behind the TV.

• 1:47:45Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:47:45Joe Rogan?

  There's like six feet between the TV and the wall, what do I give a fuck?

• 1:47:49Speaker 02

  I know.

• 1:47:49Joe Rogan?

  There's an extra twelve inches of TV behind it? What are you, stupid? You're gonna pay twenty thousand dollars because it's flat?

• 1:47:56Speaker 02

  I guess people wanna hang it on the wall.

• 1:47:58Joe Rogan?

  It was a thing to let people know you had it.

• 1:48:00Speaker 02

  Money.

• 1:48:01Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you had a plasma TV.

• 1:48:03Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:48:03Joe Rogan?

  See, if you can find a plasma TV from nineteen ninety-five-ish, they looked like shit. I think it was, must have been ninety-six, because that was when I first bought a house. They looked like shit. And they were twenty thousand dollars. I was like, this is crazy.

• 1:48:18Speaker 02

  They were so heavy, those big TVs.

• 1:48:20Joe Rogan?

  Oh, giant. Might not have been twenty grand, I might be exaggerating, but it had to be like eight or nine. And this was like, again, ninety-five-ish. How much did they cost back then?

• 1:48:29Speaker 02

  I remember the, that TV right there, the silver one, where it like comes with its own stand, kind of?

• 1:48:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that one.

• 1:48:36Speaker 02

  That's where you go over to the person's house, that's, that person has the, uh, the Super Bowl party.

• 1:48:40Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you had to have friends help you carry that in. So it was Fujitsu in ninety-five. Fujitsu introduced the first forty-two inch, and it was how much money? Price. Uh, no, I had it right there, right there. Uh, sample price for the forty-two inch was one thousand, or one million yen. But Fujitsu aimed to sell it for about five hundred thousand yen per unit. What is that in dollars? What's one million yen?

• 1:49:10Joe Rogan?

  In dollars.

• 1:49:11Speaker 02

  It's like fifteen thousand.

• 1:49:13Joe Rogan?

  Six thousand, so six thousand five hundred bucks.

• 1:49:16Speaker 02

  That's still a lot of money.

• 1:49:17Joe Rogan?

  Still a lot of money, so it wasn't twenty grand, I exaggerate.

• 1:49:19Speaker 02

  That's a lot of money still.

• 1:49:19Joe Rogan?

  But it was just, the regular TV was like a hundred. Like, what, how much is a regular TV? It wasn't that much money. But if you had that, you were the man, like, oh, Bobby must be doing really well in Hollywood, look at this.

• 1:49:32Speaker 02

  Look at that TV.

• 1:49:34Joe Rogan?

  Flat screen television. Oh, ten grand. By the year two thousand, prices had dropped to ten grand. Oh, prices had dropped to ten grand.

• 1:49:41Speaker 02

  So maybe it was twenty thousand.

• 1:49:43Joe Rogan?

  Hmm, interesting, see if it says up there, oh, fourteen, fifteen thousand. Okay, one of the first flat plasma TVs. I think it was a Philips that I saw. It was available at four Sears locations in the US for fifteen grand.

• 1:49:58Speaker 02

  Is there Sears anymore?

• 1:50:00Joe Rogan?

  I don't know, I haven't seen a Sears forever.

• 1:50:02Speaker 02

  I remember when I was like a kid, I got like a Sears credit card and I just bought like my ex-boyfriend at the time, like rims for his car. And that's what you just spend your money on.

• 1:50:10Joe Rogan?

  I don't even, I, Sears is almost like the Bernstein Bears effect. Like, the fact that you said Sears, I was like, oh, that's a thing? Like, I forgot about Sears. But how could that not be a thing? Like, Sears was huge.

• 1:50:25Speaker 03

  They still have a website.

• 1:50:27Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 1:50:28Speaker 02

  But, do they have any loc- there's no locations, though?

• 1:50:32Speaker 03

  No, I mean, it's giving me a store locator, but it's not showing me on that.

• 1:50:34Joe Rogan?

  But that's a weird one, like Sears, like, that had left my memory, until this. And then you saying it, like, even though I said Sears, available at Sears.

• 1:50:44Speaker 02

  It didn't hit your head.

• 1:50:45Joe Rogan?

  Then you started going Sears, oh, I remember Sears, and then I was like, oh, I remember Sears too.

• 1:50:51Speaker 02

  Do you remember Nobody Beats The Wiz? Do you remember that store?

• 1:50:53Joe Rogan?

  Yes, yes. Do you remember Crazy Eddie's?

• 1:50:55Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:50:56Joe Rogan?

  Crazy Eddie was actually crazy.

• 1:50:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:50:58Joe Rogan?

  Turns out.

• 1:50:59Speaker 03

  There's nine left.

• 1:51:00Joe Rogan?

  Oh, wow.

• 1:51:01Speaker 03

  One in Puerto Rico, eight on the mainland.

• 1:51:03Joe Rogan?

  Interesting. We should take a road trip, just to go to a Sears.

• 1:51:08Speaker 02

  We should go to one in Puerto Rico.

• 1:51:10Joe Rogan?

  We should bring Tony.

• 1:51:12Speaker 02

  Let's bring Tony. That'd be amazing. First of all, Puerto Ricans were not upset by that. I mean, I'm sure some were, but like, my friends were like, "I'm still voting for Trump."

• 1:51:20Joe Rogan?

  Puerto Ricans can take a joke. They're some of the best shit talkers on earth.

• 1:51:25Speaker 02

  Absolutely.

• 1:51:26Joe Rogan?

  It's common in Puerto Rican communities, just have fun and joke.

• 1:51:31Speaker 02

  Absolutely.

• 1:51:31Joe Rogan?

  It's not a super sensitive neighborhood. It's a super sensitive ethnic group.

• 1:51:36Speaker 02

  No, but most people didn't care. They're like, "I don't care."

• 1:51:38Joe Rogan?

  It was a stupid thing to do it there, but it turned him into a legend. As long as Trump won. If Trump didn't win, we were gonna have to hide him.

• 1:51:47Speaker 02

  For real?

• 1:51:47Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I was gonna hide him. I was gonna move him to Thailand or something.

• 1:51:50Speaker 02

  To Thailand?

• 1:51:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's gotta get out of the United States for a while.

• 1:51:53Speaker 02

  For how long now?

• 1:51:54Joe Rogan?

  A while. Depending on how bad sideways things go. If Kamala Harris becomes president, a deep state takeover, and they completely censor all social media, remove everybody's guns, force vaccinations on all your babies, everybody gets a sex change, who knows?

• 1:52:07Speaker 02

  And he's just in Thailand?

• 1:52:08Joe Rogan?

  And he's in Thailand.

• 1:52:09Speaker 02

  With ladyboys?

• 1:52:10Joe Rogan?

  Just drinking his life away because he can't believe he fucked it up for one shitty laugh.

• 1:52:16Speaker 02

  He could go live in Puerto Rico.

• 1:52:18Joe Rogan?

  You know, there were stories that were ready to be published if Trump lost, blaming it on Tony.

• 1:52:23Speaker 02

  That's crazy.

• 1:52:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah. Blaming it on that one joke in Madison Square Garden, where the fact is, and Tony will tell you, "Actually, Puerto Ricans voted 26% more for Trump," which is true.

• 1:52:36Speaker 02

  They probably did.

• 1:52:37Joe Rogan?

  Than ever before, yeah. Well, people were fucking fed up. People were fed up.

• 1:52:41Speaker 02

  I didn't even vote.

• 1:52:42Joe Rogan?

  None of this makes any sense.

• 1:52:45Speaker 02

  I mean, I think honestly, most people right now, their main concern is like, they can't even afford groceries.

• 1:52:50Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 1:52:51Speaker 02

  So they're like, "Whoever I think is gonna help me with that." But, listen, I don't know what is true or not true, but like, people who are like, "I can't afford to feed my kids."

• 1:52:58Joe Rogan?

  It is so crazy. I was watching this guy on MSNBC, and he was dismissing that in terms of like, when people think a certain way, like, people have like, if they're a leftist, or if they're a fundamentalist Christian... They have one thing in common, and that thing that they have in common is they want everyone to think like them.

• 1:53:19Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 1:53:19Joe Rogan?

  And this guy was saying that about like young people listening to podcasts and they're getting air quotes radicalized. And that we need something that can do this from a feminist perspective.

• 1:53:33Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:53:34Joe Rogan?

  And teach young men feminism. The whole thing was so strange, but one of the things that he said that was the most strange. He said, instead of like these minor grievances like the price of eggs or someone is teaching you some, your kid something in history that you don't agree with, instead of those minor thing, like what's major then, man? Food for kids.

• 1:53:56Speaker 02

  Also like history is just history.

• 1:53:58Joe Rogan?

  And in history, well, you know, he said something you don't agree with, like what, I don't know what that means. But education is primary. It's one of the most important things for kids. You gotta, for their view of the world, they have to be correctly informed. It really helps if you have a good education.

• 1:54:13Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 1:54:14Joe Rogan?

  And then if you have food, if you can afford eggs, that really fucking helps. And so this idea that these are minor issues and the important issue is connecting men to feminism.

• 1:54:25Speaker 02

  Listen, you can do that if you want, but like most people right now are like, I can't afford to pay for groceries for my kids. I don't even have kids, but like people are like, I can't afford to buy groceries.

• 1:54:34Joe Rogan?

  Of course.

• 1:54:34Speaker 02

  People who are making more money now are like, I can't save any money.

• 1:54:37Joe Rogan?

  Yes. Everything's more expensive. People are fucking out of touch. I'm clearly out of touch. Clearly. But I remember when I was poor. I understand it. I really do. And I know what the fuck is going on. And I know people are saying, hey, this isn't a minor deal. This is like one of the biggest deals. You guys fucked up the economy and you're gaslighting everybody and telling everybody you didn't. You guys have spent billions of dollars on a war that nobody agrees with, hundreds of billions. And you're gaslighting us.

• 1:55:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, I just also like these teachers that are just like spending all their own money for supplies. It's like, what are you doing?

• 1:55:12Joe Rogan?

  Crazy.

• 1:55:13Speaker 02

  Why do teachers not have supplies for kids?

• 1:55:15Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:55:16Speaker 02

  And you're right, they are the future generation. So if they don't have food and they don't have, they're not like being instructed in, you know, learning stuff and you have these schools where there's so many kids to one teacher.

• 1:55:25Joe Rogan?

  The United States is like someone who owes you money and they say they don't have it and they keep buying cars.

• 1:55:29Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:55:30Joe Rogan?

  That's what it's like.

• 1:55:31Speaker 02

  Kind of.

• 1:55:31Joe Rogan?

  It's like, how did you have the money to spend all this money on another country? When you don't have any money to spend on the education of kids?

• 1:55:39Speaker 02

  I mean homelessness, the veterans.

• 1:55:41Joe Rogan?

  Okay, let's just pick, let's just pick education. Like, how much could they fix education with a hundred and seventy-five billion dollars?

• 1:55:48Speaker 02

  You shouldn't have a teacher that needs to buy supplies.

• 1:55:50Joe Rogan?

  Right. And imagine this, imagine if companies were incentivized, like, what if they got government grants based on how well the kids performed in the school districts?

• 1:56:00Speaker 02

  That would be great.

• 1:56:01Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, like, literally make it like Halliburton for schools. Like, you know, Halliburton, they blew up Iraq, Halliburton comes in, cleans everything up. Have something that profits off these places getting better and the better they do in terms of dropping in crime, education raids, graduation raids, college raids, everybody gets more money. Figure that out.

• 1:56:20Speaker 02

  Well, I mean, they just want more money for prisons.

• 1:56:23Joe Rogan?

  They do that, too, that's true.

• 1:56:24Speaker 02

  Because if you don't spend on education, then you could just have these people have to turn to crime and put them in prisons and that's how you'll get money.

• 1:56:30Joe Rogan?

  There's a bunch of things they did in the eighties that still fuck with us today and that's one of them. That's a big one. Then the eighties must have been so wild because there's no computers and it's just like TV and the newspaper and everyone's running wild and Reagan's the president, so nobody thinks anything's real. You got a fucking movie star as the president. JFK's dead, nobody still understands that one.

• 1:56:54Speaker 02

  Wasn't Reagan's, was Reagan's wife the one that was called the throat goat?

• 1:56:58Joe Rogan?

  Allegedly. Yes.

• 1:57:00Speaker 02

  Give her her flowers, I think she is the throat goat.

• 1:57:03Joe Rogan?

  Well, I mean, you could bestow that upon someone to besmirk their memory, you could do that. It's hard to say.

• 1:57:09Speaker 02

  Is that necessarily a bad thing?

• 1:57:11Joe Rogan?

  But also the kind of gal that can capture up a president, probably knows how to get things done.

• 1:57:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:57:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:57:16Speaker 02

  That's not necessarily a bad thing, good for her.

• 1:57:18Joe Rogan?

  I think it's a good thing.

• 1:57:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:57:19Joe Rogan?

  It's a, I mean, every guy would agree.

• 1:57:21Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 1:57:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's a good skill for a lady to have. Then there's the problem of how'd you learn that? Unless you're a savant, first dick you suck, you're just like, wow.

• 1:57:31Speaker 02

  Somebody had to just figure that out.

• 1:57:34Joe Rogan?

  There probably was glasses back in the Roman days.

• 1:57:37Speaker 02

  You think so?

• 1:57:37Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. Probably guys showing each other how to suck each other off. Everybody was blowing everybody back then.

• 1:57:42Speaker 02

  They're just, you know, throwing bodies on fire and then also there's throat goat glasses.

• 1:57:47Joe Rogan?

  Imagine what their balls smelled like back then.

• 1:57:49Speaker 02

  Disgusting. I can't even imagine it.

• 1:57:50Joe Rogan?

  Jesus Christ.

• 1:57:51Speaker 02

  You'd probably put shit on their balls so you couldn't smell what their actual balls smelled like. You're like, I'd rather smell straight shit than listen to that.

• 1:58:01Speaker 02

  So gross. That has to be the worst smell.

• 1:58:03Joe Rogan?

  Did you ever see how they wiped their asses?

• 1:58:05Speaker 02

  Where? In the Roman times?

• 1:58:06Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they would take a sponge that was on a stick. It was a communal sponge.

• 1:58:10Speaker 02

  Why did I just see this on like Instagram or something? Yeah, it's like just, I think I'm all, I think I'm all set.

• 1:58:17Joe Rogan?

  I went to Pompeii and I took my family there a few years ago. It's really interesting. Cause these people died like instantaneously and then they've sort of uncovered a lot of it. And one of the things that they uncovered was like this communal like shit house. So it's just like these holes around this, like a horseshoe pattern. Yeah, like that. So these holes, so these dudes just sit there and just shat into the ground.

• 1:58:42Speaker 02

  So it's like kind of a toilet kind of idea?

• 1:58:45Joe Rogan?

  But I mean, I don't think there's any water. And there's the sponge. That's the sponge. Look at the word. They had a name for it.

• 1:58:52Speaker 02

  How often do they?

• 1:58:53Joe Rogan?

  Xyllospongium.

• 1:58:55Speaker 02

  How often do they change the sponge?

• 1:58:58Joe Rogan?

  Oh, they couldn't change it enough. Even if you had your own sponge.

• 1:59:02Speaker 02

  But like a month?

• 1:59:03Joe Rogan?

  You're dunking into that fucking, okay, hold on a second. Academics disagreed to its exact use, about which the primary sources are vague. It has traditionally been assumed that a type of shared anal hygiene utensil used to wipe after defecating and the sponge is cleaned in vinegar or water, sometimes salt water. Other recent research suggests it was most likely a toilet brush.

• 1:59:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, they're probably cleaning a toilet and also your asshole.

• 1:59:30Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, maybe it was all those things.

• 1:59:34Joe Rogan?

  Middle of the first century, Roman philosopher Seneca the Younger reported that a Germanic gladiator died by suicide with a sponge on a stick. According to Seneca, the gladiator hid himself in the latrine of an amphitheater and pushed the wooden stick deep into his throat. Yo.

• 1:59:53Speaker 02

  Did he take that sponge off first?

• 1:59:56Joe Rogan?

  No, he wanted to die that way. He wanted to suffocate himself. That's how much he didn't want to fight in the Gladiator Wars.

• 2:00:02Speaker 03

  See also shit stick.

• 2:00:04Joe Rogan?

  Means a thin steak or stick used instead of toilet paper for anal hygiene and was a historical item of material culture introduced through Chinese Buddhism and Japanese Buddhism. A well-known example is, I'm not even gonna try to say that word. Where'd it go? Oh.

• 2:00:23Joe Rogan?

  Well, example, a dry shit stick from the Chan Zen, I'm not gonna say that word, in which a monk, a monk asked, "What is Buddha?" And Master Yunmen Unman answered, "A dry shit stick." Buddha is a dry shit stick, because everybody got a shit stick that had everybody else's shit already on it, and you just smear an extra shit on your butt.

• 2:00:46Speaker 02

  It's like, I'll just have my own shit.

• 2:00:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you're dunking it in the water, but how clean's it really get? And then it's just soaked in shit water, and you're taking that, and you're wiping your own asshole with it.

• 2:00:55Speaker 02

  I am glad that I was not, I am glad I was not born during that time.

• 2:00:59Joe Rogan?

  What do you think people in the future are gonna be saying about this time, though? What are they gonna be most shocked that we did that was so stupid?

• 2:01:05Speaker 02

  Hmm. I don't know.

• 2:01:08Joe Rogan?

  Because if we're looking back at Pompeii, what was Pompeii? What year did that go down?

• 2:01:13Speaker 03

  It was like sixty-seven, something.

• 2:01:15Joe Rogan?

  Sixty-seven A.D.?

• 2:01:16Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:01:17Joe Rogan?

  It's pretty wild when you're there. It's weird, because you get to see some of the bodies they preserved that are just completely frozen in place, like the ash overwhelmed them, and they're just like, like, almost like a little stone statue.

• 2:01:30Speaker 03

  Seventy-nine.

• 2:01:30Joe Rogan?

  Seventy-nine A.D. Can you show me some of the photos of the Pompeii victims? So there's like, people that are like, just piled on top of each other, like, that's it, like, right there.

• 2:01:43Joe Rogan?

  They just were overwhelmed by ash. Just volcanic ash, the volcano, the heat and the gases just killed everybody like almost instantly. Just completely overran the town.

• 2:01:58Joe Rogan?

  It's pretty insane.

• 2:02:00Speaker 02

  That is insane.

• 2:02:00Joe Rogan?

  Because it's just weird that people don't know that. Like when they're building these cities, they don't know that that can happen. Like, look at that.

• 2:02:12Speaker 02

  I mean, I wouldn't know that that can happen.

• 2:02:14Joe Rogan?

  No, no one knew back then, but I mean, we know now. Look, look at that. That's so crazy. That's what it looks like. I mean, that's a human being that was just literally turned into a statue in place. Fuck. There was one where these two guys were embracing. And someone tried to say that it was, uh, perhaps they were lovers. And someone on Twitter was a very funny comment. They're like, Jesus Christ, imagine dying in front of your friend, then everybody finds you like, oh, I knew he was gay.

• 2:02:42Speaker 02

  Imagine like jerking off.

• 2:02:44Joe Rogan?

  Right? You die in the middle of it. You have your dick. You have your hand on your balls.

• 2:02:48Speaker 02

  And you're just fucking now frozen in time like that?

• 2:02:50Joe Rogan?

  Forever. At least nobody knows who you are.

• 2:02:52Speaker 02

  That's true.

• 2:02:53Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, those are the guys.

• 2:02:54Speaker 02

  I don't know, those people, yeah. That looks, that's on the way down.

• 2:02:58Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Fucked up way to go. Instantaneously.

• 2:03:02Speaker 02

  Like, that's Bob and Tom.

• 2:03:04Joe Rogan?

  And when I was a kid, um, Mount St. Helens blew up. What year was that, Jamie? Mount St. Helens was in the Pacific Northwest and was a big deal. Cause it was a, an actual real volcano that killed people in the United States. And we were like, whoa. Like what? I thought volcanoes were like in other countries, nineteen eighty. So I was, uh, not even in high school.

• 2:03:29Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. That was, uh, that was a crazy one. How many people died from Mount St. Helens?

• 2:03:36Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they, they knew it was an active volcano, but they didn't think. Wow, it's like people live on the side of active volcanoes. Like in Hawaii, there's a bunch of people that live on the side of an active volcano.

• 2:03:48Speaker 02

  When I was in Hawaii, I think there was, um, one of the volcanoes did go off.

• 2:03:52Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. It happened when I was there too. At the Big Island. The Big Island is very active. There's crazy film of lava overcoming this Mustang. Have you ever seen it?

• 2:04:03Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:04:04Joe Rogan?

  There's a Mustang parked in front of the street and the lava is coming from this eruption and it just slowly consumes the street and eats this car. Right in front of this dude's house. Like these people have been living there chilling their whole life, coming home from school. Hi mom, I'm home.

• 2:04:19Speaker 02

  Does your insurance cover that?

• 2:04:21Joe Rogan?

  Probably not. They try to cover as little as possible. If you live on the side of an active volcano like.

• 2:04:26Speaker 02

  It's like, hey, I'm gonna get volcano insurance.

• 2:04:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's uh, that's up to you player.

• 2:04:30Speaker 02

  But I want, I wanna have my expensive car.

• 2:04:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I had a friend who um, he had some crazy situation. I think he had like flood insurance, but he didn't have damage from water from a hurricane insurance. So like your roof can get destroyed from a hurricane and you don't have insurance for that, but you have insurance if like your pipes break. Like he got fucked in some sort of a weird loophole.

• 2:04:58Speaker 02

  What's weird too with stuff like that, anytime it's like an adjuster, if you get the right adjuster, they can do whatever you want. But you have to get an adjuster who's gonna do it. Like I used to call and do like appeals for um, health insurance stuff. And if you kinda sweet talk someone, they might just put it through for you. You have to just keep calling back until you get an adjuster that's gonna give you what you want.

• 2:05:21Joe Rogan?

  Or you have to charm them in person.

• 2:05:23Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 2:05:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:05:25Speaker 02

  That's what, cuz they're just regular people.

• 2:05:27Joe Rogan?

  Right. And they could decide.

• 2:05:29Speaker 02

  Absolutely. They hold so much power sometimes.

• 2:05:31Joe Rogan?

  That's a crazy power to have.

• 2:05:33Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:05:33Joe Rogan?

  Tell a person you can get your house fixed.

• 2:05:35Speaker 02

  Right, or like your car is totaled and we're gonna pay for it or we're not.

• 2:05:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, or you're gonna have a shaky ass car for the rest of your life. As you take it on the highway. You ever had a car that's fixed that really probably shouldn't have been fixed?

• 2:05:49Speaker 02

  I mean, my first car I had was like um, a Ford Tempo and I remember the steering wheel like came off in my lap as I was driving it and I was just like picked it up and just kept driving.

• 2:06:01Joe Rogan?

  He put it back on?

• 2:06:02Speaker 02

  Oh, I should not have been driving that car.

• 2:06:04Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god. When you're a kid and you buy shit boxes, like the chances of those things just completely falling apart as you're driving are so high.

• 2:06:13Speaker 02

  My dad also would just like wanna paint a car. So he would just like start painting a car and prime it, like half of it, and then he would give up. So we'd have like a two colored car as a child. It's like so embarrassing.

• 2:06:25Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, if you have a poor car.

• 2:06:27Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, we had poor cars.

• 2:06:29Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, poor cars are not good.

• 2:06:30Speaker 02

  And then my mom got into a car accident, and then we got a car with that money.

• 2:06:33Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 2:06:34Speaker 02

  The Ford Tempo was like five grand.

• 2:06:36Joe Rogan?

  Mmm.

• 2:06:37Speaker 02

  It had like bright red pleather inside.

• 2:06:40Joe Rogan?

  Bright red pleather.

• 2:06:41Speaker 02

  I remember, yeah, I was driving that car, me and my friends on the highway, and I'm like, oh, the steering wheel just came down, but it's still connected. So I'd just pick it up and like make the turn.

• 2:06:49Joe Rogan?

  Oh, so like the thing that adjusts the steering wheel dropped off?

• 2:06:53Speaker 02

  I don't know. It just like fell in my lap when I was driving. And I just picked it up and like still drove it.

• 2:06:59Joe Rogan?

  Jesus Christ. There's a lot of those cars out there. That's why we need inspections, Adrian. It's very important.

• 2:07:05Speaker 02

  My dad, though, knew a guy who would just keep passing that car.

• 2:07:08Joe Rogan?

  Phew.

• 2:07:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:07:10Joe Rogan?

  Those guys are a problem.

• 2:07:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. It's like the right, it's a person that's like not an adjuster, but like if you know them, they'll do it for you.

• 2:07:17Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, my friend was telling me about that for muscle cars in Los Angeles. That there's a place you can go in like the hood, and this guy will completely pass like any car. I was like, that sounds like an FBI sting.

• 2:07:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, but I mean, there's so many things like that.

• 2:07:29Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Well, especially in New York.

• 2:07:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, yeah.

• 2:07:34Joe Rogan?

  I mean, New York is all about knowing a guy.

• 2:07:35Speaker 02

  All about knowing a guy. It's all about like what you can get away with.

• 2:07:38Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:07:39Speaker 02

  New York City is disgusting, and I've lived there my whole life. I hate it, but I can't imagine like living anywhere permanently for the rest of my life.

• 2:07:46Joe Rogan?

  What do you, uh, think is gonna be the hardest adjustment about moving here?

• 2:07:53Speaker 02

  I don't know. Um, I'm not sure. I mean, I can't live here during the summer. I can't do it like flying roaches. Whatever, like whatever those things are, I just can't. I'm out.

• 2:08:07Joe Rogan?

  Flying roaches?

• 2:08:08Speaker 02

  I just see them out. Like, it was like a hundred five degrees here when I came last June with Ari and it was just like, we were in his hat. He got a really nice Airbnb.

• 2:08:17Joe Rogan?

  He probably brought them with him.

• 2:08:18Speaker 03

  There were a lot of crickets this year, but I don't think that was, that's different.

• 2:08:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:08:22Speaker 02

  There, I mean, I was in the room in the bathroom and there was one like this big.

• 2:08:25Joe Rogan?

  A roach.

• 2:08:26Speaker 02

  Whatever, maybe they're cicadas, whatever they're called.

• 2:08:29Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. Cicadas are very different than roaches.

• 2:08:31Speaker 02

  They look like roaches.

• 2:08:32Joe Rogan?

  People eat them.

• 2:08:33Speaker 02

  Sure, people eat people. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it doesn't make it cool or right, but like, you can eat whatever you want.

• 2:08:39Joe Rogan?

  No, but I mean, it's like a delicacy. Like, people enjoy it.

• 2:08:42Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 2:08:43Joe Rogan?

  No, like, I know a lot of, I know a guy who does it.

• 2:08:45Speaker 02

  God bless. That's not for me.

• 2:08:47Joe Rogan?

  My friend Ryan Callahan, he had a recipe of how to cook cicadas.

• 2:08:51Speaker 02

  Don't they look like big roaches, though?

• 2:08:53Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, like a bug.

• 2:08:55Speaker 02

  Anyway, I go to get Ari to kill it and he's like, oh, it just flew. I'm like, what? That is like a new fear unlocked. It flew?

• 2:09:04Joe Rogan?

  It probably was a cicada. It probably wasn't a roach.

• 2:09:06Speaker 02

  It might not have been a roach, but like, I forget it.

• 2:09:09Joe Rogan?

  That's what a cicada looks like.

• 2:09:10Speaker 02

  I can't.

• 2:09:11Joe Rogan?

  Fucking cool. They're fucking cool. Um, see if you find cicada recipes. See if you can find Ryan Callahan's cicada recipe. My friend Ryan, he, uh, would cook them with like teriyaki sauce and bake them. Yeah, apparently, look, I've gone to Mexico before and at certain resorts in Mexico, they'll serve you like fried crickets.

• 2:09:30Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 2:09:31Joe Rogan?

  Have you seen that?

• 2:09:32Speaker 02

  I've heard about it.

• 2:09:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Fried crickets or grasshoppers? I forget which one. But they're good. They taste good.

• 2:09:37Speaker 02

  They're probably crunchy.

• 2:09:38Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, crunchy and it was kind of salty. It's pretty good. It's actually not bad for you, like legitimately.

• 2:09:44Speaker 02

  It's protein, right?

• 2:09:45Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's the same kind of animal protein that you get from a lot of different things. Um, but protein from cicadas is apparently particularly good. It's like they're, because they're big, I guess. Probably a lot of protein in those little fuckers.

• 2:09:57Speaker 02

  I mean, I just remember being out, like, outside on like a bar here and they were just...

• 2:10:02Joe Rogan?

  That's all it is for you is the bugs?

• 2:10:04Speaker 02

  The heat's not great.

• 2:10:06Joe Rogan?

  You can handle the heat?

• 2:10:07Speaker 02

  I can handle the heat over those bugs.

• 2:10:10Joe Rogan?

  Just stay away from the bugs. I don't run into them.

• 2:10:12Speaker 02

  They fly.

• 2:10:13Joe Rogan?

  Adrian, I'm telling you, you're hanging out in the wrong spots. I'll show you where to go with the bugs.

• 2:10:16Speaker 02

  Sure, maybe I'm in the poor places, but like the bugs are just, I can't deal with the flying of them.

• 2:10:20Joe Rogan?

  Just don't know where the bugs are. It's not that big of a deal. Mosquitoes are a pain in the ass, sometimes.

• 2:10:25Speaker 02

  I don't care about that. I mean, yeah, it's not great, but like, those big things, I can't.

• 2:10:28Joe Rogan?

  Like Lady Bird Lake, if you go around there, you're gonna, there's gonna be a lot of mosquitoes. They're all over the fucking place. But that's also, um, what the bats keep in check. Have you seen the bat, um, emergence before?

• 2:10:38Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:10:39Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it's fucking cool as shit.

• 2:10:40Speaker 02

  Bats are actually pretty cute.

• 2:10:41Joe Rogan?

  Well, there's a, there's the bridge, right? The South Congress Bridge. And if you go by the South Congress Bridge, there's people every night that are waiting for the bats to leave. Cause millions of bats leave. So, as billions of critters have emerged for seven years. So, is this Ryan?

• 2:10:57Speaker 03

  I think so.

• 2:10:58Joe Rogan?

  Okay, so you're showing, so you peel off the skin of these little fuckers.

• 2:11:02Speaker 02

  What, what is this guy doing?

• 2:11:03Joe Rogan?

  That's not Ryan Callahan. I don't know who that guy is.

• 2:11:05Speaker 03

  I could find a video of him doing it then.

• 2:11:07Joe Rogan?

  Okay. But so, this guy's just showing how you cook cicadas. So, he's basically taking away the outside area, and he made a cicada taco for this kid. And this lady, and they're eating it with a, mm.

• 2:11:22Joe Rogan?

  She's, she's freaking out. Whatever.

• 2:11:24Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:11:24Joe Rogan?

  She said it's not bad.

• 2:11:27Joe Rogan?

  What was I just talking about before that, though? We're moving on to something else.

• 2:11:31Speaker 02

  Oh, what I'll miss about being in, being here as opposed to New York?

• 2:11:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, we talked about, oh, um, oh, the bats. That's what we're talking about.

• 2:11:39Speaker 02

  The bats eating the mosquitoes.

• 2:11:39Joe Rogan?

  Show the, um, bats emerging from the South Congress Bridge. It's really crazy. I've seen, I've only done it once, where I went out there and watched it happen. It's like a million bats. It's like the sky fills with bats, and they kill all the fucking mosquitoes. They're death for the mosquitoes.

• 2:11:54Speaker 02

  Why are they not eating the cicadas also? That's pretty cool, though.

• 2:11:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:11:57Speaker 03

  I've never seen the photos of it.

• 2:11:59Joe Rogan?

  It's pretty badass. I've seen it live like that. And, and if you go under that bridge, you hear them.

• 2:12:04Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:12:07Joe Rogan?

  Little flying rats clinging to the roof.

• 2:12:08Speaker 02

  What else do they eat? They can't eat just mosquitoes.

• 2:12:10Joe Rogan?

  Mosquitoes.

• 2:12:11Speaker 02

  That's it?

• 2:12:12Joe Rogan?

  They're mosquito killers. They keep the mosquitoes in check. Uh, they probably eat a bunch of bugs. I'm sure they don't only dine on mosquitoes, but they're a significant factor in keeping the mosquito population down. Allegedly. That's what I read. Let's find out if that's true. I think it's true, though. I think it's true. I think that's one of the main things that they helped with.

• 2:12:30Speaker 02

  My friend, he lives in, uh, I guess the country, and he's like trying to put up those places where bats will come to eat the mosquitoes. Like, I guess you put up those little bat houses or whatever. Put pheromones in them, I guess, and he's like, he can't get them to come there, because he has a lot of mosquitoes, because he lives by a lake.

• 2:12:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I bet bats, it's hard to get them to move into new areas. You know, because I bet wherever bats live, if they live by a lake, there's probably plenty of bugs. Like, why would they take a risk to go somewhere where they're not sure if resources exist?

• 2:12:58Speaker 02

  I mean, they could just fly.

• 2:12:59Joe Rogan?

  Right, but they live under this bridge, and they've been on this bridge forever.

• 2:13:02Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, I don't think he's gonna get these bats.

• 2:13:04Joe Rogan?

  But you know what I'm saying? Like, when bats find a spot that works, they're not migratory.

• 2:13:08Speaker 02

  Right, they're just gonna stay there.

• 2:13:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they're just gonna stay there. So to get them to go to a new spot, he's probably gonna have to bring bats. We actually had a bat expert on the podcast.

• 2:13:18Speaker 02

  Do you know what I need? I need an expert for pantry moths.

• 2:13:22Joe Rogan?

  We'll try to find you one.

• 2:13:23Speaker 02

  I mean, I have pantry moths for the last three months, and I can't get rid of them.

• 2:13:27Speaker 03

  They do migrate.

• 2:13:29Joe Rogan?

  Where do they go? They migrate seasonally, flying south for the winter, and then returning north in the spring. Interesting.

• 2:13:34Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's how I heard about it, because there's a bunch more in Houston.

• 2:13:37Joe Rogan?

  Right, so they probably, because Houston doesn't get as cold, probably. But they probably have, like, an established range, is what my point is. It's like, bringing them to a new range, like, to your friend's place, is gonna be difficult, because there's not a history of them being there. But I wonder if, what was that dude's name? What does it say? It says they eat between 10,000 and 30,000 pounds of insects, including mosquitoes.

• 2:14:00Speaker 03

  Every night.

• 2:14:00Joe Rogan?

  And, every night. On their nightly flights, and harmful agricultural pests.

• 2:14:05Speaker 02

  They gotta be eating those cicadas.

• 2:14:07Joe Rogan?

  So Austin's bats, they're fucking huge. They're really, they come in handy. Um, but, ah, fuck, what was I, um, asking about other than that?

• 2:14:15Speaker 03

  Merlin Tuttle.

• 2:14:16Joe Rogan?

  Yes, that's his name. Merlin Tuttle. So he is a, a bat expert. And he lives in Austin as well. Fascinating dude. He's been studying bats his whole life. He's a scientist.

• 2:14:26Speaker 02

  Is there still new stuff to find out about bats?

• 2:14:28Joe Rogan?

  Sure, yeah. I mean, bats carry a lot of weird diseases. It's one thing, you know? Like, uh, and there's some crossover diseases. That's the coronavirus is essentially was a bat disease that they took and fucked with and made it, uh, vulnerable for humans. So they, um, they've done a lot of work with like bats and diseases. One of the craziest stories, though, there's these two doctors, or two scientists, rather, and they, um, they were in Africa and they decided to set up photography to film these bats as they were flying out of the cave, cause there's a certain cave in Africa that has like some fucking insane number of bats.

• 2:15:10Joe Rogan?

  It's just filled with them. And when these bats flew out, they shit. So these guys are on the ground in front of the bat cave filming.

• 2:15:20Speaker 02

  Getting covered in shit?

• 2:15:21Joe Rogan?

  Didn't take into account they're gonna be covered in bat shit. Just millions and millions of bats shitting in their face. And they died. They died of like some crazy hemorrhagic virus that just raged through their system. If you imagine you are a, a human being and you're essentially intravenously taking in bat shit into your system. It's going in your eyeballs. It's going in your mouth.

• 2:15:52Speaker 02

  Turn of events.

• 2:15:53Joe Rogan?

  It's going through the, the blood-brain barrier. The bat shit's getting into your blood and it's circulating through your whole body. And you just develop a horrible hemorrhagic virus.

• 2:16:05Speaker 02

  So you can't play in that shit like you can play in cow shit?

• 2:16:08Joe Rogan?

  No, I don't think so. I think, well, bats eat a lot of like living organisms, unlike cows, you know?

• 2:16:14Speaker 03

  Turning these crocodiles orange.

• 2:16:15Joe Rogan?

  Bat poop has turned these African cave crocodiles orange.

• 2:16:19Speaker 02

  I mean, that orange crocodile looks pretty cool.

• 2:16:21Joe Rogan?

  That's a pretty dope looking crocodile.

• 2:16:23Speaker 02

  I'd like a pair of boots.

• 2:16:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, no shit, right? Like, natural?

• 2:16:26Speaker 02

  Nice.

• 2:16:26Joe Rogan?

  Natural orange crocodile from bat poop?

• 2:16:30Joe Rogan?

  You know, bat guano is a very potent fertilizer, right? Because bat guano has like, I think it has high levels of nitrogen. I think that comes from them eating all the insects. So that like, there used to be wars over bat shit. And that's where the term bat shit crazy comes from.

• 2:16:51Speaker 02

  I did not know that.

• 2:16:52Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, guano was like a very expensive commodity. Because people needed it to grow crops. So if you could get...

• 2:17:00Speaker 02

  That's crazy.

• 2:17:00Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, bat guano is apparently a very potent fertilizer.

• 2:17:05Speaker 03

  They have a forty-three-hundred-year-old poop core in a Jamaican cave that they've been studying.

• 2:17:10Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 2:17:11Speaker 03

  Five thousand different species of bats have been shitting on for...

• 2:17:14Joe Rogan?

  Jesus Christ! Oh my god! Depositive into sequen... Wow! Sequential layers by generations of bats for over four thousand, three hundred years. And it's two meters tall. That is so crazy. Largely undisturbed and holds information about changes in climate and how the bats' food sources shifted over the millennia. Wow!

• 2:17:40Speaker 02

  Imagine going to Jamaica for spring break and that's where you go.

• 2:17:42Joe Rogan?

  That is so crazy. That's so nuts.

• 2:17:47Speaker 03

  Yeah, I know. I'm trying to find a picture of it, but I don't see it.

• 2:17:51Joe Rogan?

  You know what I'm really fascinated with? Is things that existed like only in myth, but that every culture has. Like dragons. Like I had this guy Forrest Galant. He's a wildlife biologist. And he thinks that there's a real possibility that dragons were an actual thing. And that...

• 2:18:10Speaker 02

  Well, when they have lived, like when dinosaurs were around?

• 2:18:13Joe Rogan?

  No, no, they lived alongside humans. That's why there's all these records in all these different cultures. And you know, there's Chinese culture has dragons. Japanese culture has dragons. Ancient Europeans have dragons. Like dragon is a real... Not fire breathing. That seems to be bullshit. But maybe even...

• 2:18:33Speaker 02

  What kind of, like, what would their purpose be?

• 2:18:36Joe Rogan?

  Well, they're probably like a crocodile that flies. There's probably like more than one kind of really dangerous reptile that they call dragons. Like Komodo dragons.

• 2:18:47Speaker 02

  Right, Komodo dragons.

• 2:18:48Joe Rogan?

  Giant lizard, they call it a dragon, right? Crocodiles, dragons.

• 2:18:51Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:18:51Joe Rogan?

  The question is whether or not one of them actually flew. Cause we know that pterodactyls were a real thing. And if, if pterodactyls-

• 2:18:58Speaker 02

  I mean, they probably were real then.

• 2:19:00Joe Rogan?

  Nah. I think it's probably something like that. You know, some kind of like enormous bird type creature.

• 2:19:07Speaker 02

  I only want a dragon if it's going to like just have fire come out of its mouth.

• 2:19:11Joe Rogan?

  All the time, yeah.

• 2:19:12Speaker 02

  That's the only kind of dragon I want.

• 2:19:13Joe Rogan?

  Stick it on your enemies.

• 2:19:14Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 2:19:14Joe Rogan?

  Shut the fuck up. You know?

• 2:19:17Speaker 02

  Send it to your house.

• 2:19:17Joe Rogan?

  Like when you're in Game of Thrones and that lady's standing there and then you see the dragon's head slowly emerge behind her.

• 2:19:23Speaker 02

  I never watched Game of Thrones. I know.

• 2:19:24Joe Rogan?

  How dare you.

• 2:19:25Speaker 02

  I know.

• 2:19:26Joe Rogan?

  It's so good.

• 2:19:27Speaker 02

  I keep trying to get into it and I can't.

• 2:19:30Joe Rogan?

  The new one is, nah.

• 2:19:31Speaker 02

  No, but I mean, I mean the old one.

• 2:19:33Joe Rogan?

  The old one is so good. It's so good. It's so good. It makes you want a dragon. The lady who, was her name, Veneras? Who had the dragons? Is that her name?

• 2:19:44Speaker 02

  I have no idea. You didn't watch it either? Could you not get into it?

• 2:19:48Joe Rogan?

  She's too busy playing video games and golf.

• 2:19:50Speaker 02

  Bring me your, bring me your pup.

• 2:19:52Joe Rogan?

  Oh, what are you, a reality?

• 2:19:54Speaker 02

  Bring me your puppy right now. Bring me Carl.

• 2:19:57Joe Rogan?

  Like Jamie's like, I don't like fantasy.

• 2:19:59Speaker 03

  Not that kind.

• 2:20:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, I don't really like fantasy like that either.

• 2:20:02Speaker 03

  I don't know, like sci-fi stuff, a little more interesting.

• 2:20:04Joe Rogan?

  Have you seen, uh, Three Body Problem?

• 2:20:06Speaker 03

  No, I, it was on my list to watch it and started it.

• 2:20:09Speaker 02

  Is it good?

• 2:20:10Joe Rogan?

  Really good. Really. By the guys who made Games of Thrones. Or the gals or non-binary folks, whoever the fuck it is.

• 2:20:16Speaker 02

  Whoever made it.

• 2:20:16Joe Rogan?

  Whoever made Game of Thrones. It, some, that's a thing that you repeat without looking any further. I don't know what producers or whatever, but the point is like, it is a really, really good show. Like really fun and science fiction. And, uh, my wife who's not even into science fiction, she loves it.

• 2:20:32Speaker 02

  I gotta check it out. I really want Carl.

• 2:20:35Joe Rogan?

  Little Carl, isn't he adorable?

• 2:20:37Speaker 02

  He's so cute.

• 2:20:38Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's gotta rest up for Marshall. In about fifteen, twenty minutes, he's gonna meet Marshall again.

• 2:20:43Speaker 02

  Marshall is like, Marshall is just happy right now.

• 2:20:46Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah, he's happy when Carl's nowhere near him.

• 2:20:48Speaker 02

  He's like, Carl, please, I can't.

• 2:20:50Joe Rogan?

  Especially if like, he doesn't have a toy where they could play tug of war.

• 2:20:53Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:20:53Joe Rogan?

  If they could play tug of war, it's cool, but Carl is just a psycho.

• 2:20:56Speaker 02

  As soon as I came in, he was just like biting my sneaker.

• 2:20:59Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he just wants to fight, he wants to play.

• 2:21:01Speaker 02

  He's still so young, though.

• 2:21:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's a little baby. But he's also a crazy dog, like he's like a little torpedo. He launches himself through the air at Marshall.

• 2:21:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, he's like, if he was a person, he'd be a dictator. He's like nuts.

• 2:21:13Joe Rogan?

  He'd be a gladiator.

• 2:21:15Speaker 02

  He's like just jacked.

• 2:21:17Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he'd be one of them dudes fighting. He'd be like that, he wouldn't be the guy that killed himself with a shit sponge.

• 2:21:24Speaker 02

  No, no way. He'd be killing people with the shit sponge, just plunging it right in their throat.

• 2:21:29Joe Rogan?

  But you imagine if like, today was the lion fight, you're like, I don't wanna do this. I'd rather choke to death on a shit stick. Imagine how bad your life has to be.

• 2:21:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think you're like, I'm just gonna off myself with this shit stick.

• 2:21:40Joe Rogan?

  Imagine like, that's all you have to kill yourself is a shit stick?

• 2:21:45Joe Rogan?

  I mean, how bad your life has to suck to take this fucking sponge covered in other people's shit

• 2:21:52Joe Rogan?

  and just bypass your gag instincts and stuff it down your hole until you die?

• 2:21:57Speaker 02

  Imagine you don't die right away either.

• 2:21:59Joe Rogan?

  You definitely don't die right away.

• 2:22:00Speaker 02

  You're just like ingesting those fumes.

• 2:22:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you're growing up in the middle of killing yourself by stuffing it in your neck.

• 2:22:10Speaker 03

  I think someone thought that would kill them and they just tried smelling it until they died and it didn't work.

• 2:22:13Joe Rogan?

  Nah, they're probably used to that kinda smell.

• 2:22:16Speaker 02

  It's like smelling salts. I bet that shit wakes you right up.

• 2:22:19Joe Rogan?

  You want some?

• 2:22:20Speaker 02

  No. I used to work at a place that's...

• 2:22:24Speaker 02

  I'll do it, but I'm not gonna do it that close.

• 2:22:28Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 2:22:29Speaker 02

  That's what people do with the shit stick.

• 2:22:30Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god. That was the biggest one I ever got. Ever. Oh my god. I thought it had lost a little bit of potency from the other day.

• 2:22:40Joe Rogan?

  Yo.

• 2:22:41Speaker 03

  It's like a delayed reaction.

• 2:22:42Joe Rogan?

  Yo. That one hit me harder than anyone ever.

• 2:22:45Speaker 02

  I thought it wasn't even that close to me. It's like chlorine, but the most chlorine. So I worked at a place that did abortions. It was like an OB GYN and they used that stuff to like wake people up.

• 2:22:56Joe Rogan?

  Oh fun.

• 2:22:58Speaker 02

  Ugh, god, that is so bad.

• 2:23:01Joe Rogan?

  Gets addicted though. You wanna try it again, don't you?

• 2:23:03Speaker 02

  No, I don't.

• 2:23:04Joe Rogan?

  You don't? Sure?

• 2:23:05Speaker 02

  I'm not a gambler. I'm not a gambler.

• 2:23:06Joe Rogan?

  Doesn't matter.

• 2:23:07Speaker 02

  I'll do it from further away.

• 2:23:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

• 2:23:09Speaker 02

  Let's do it again. Let's do it again.

• 2:23:12Joe Rogan?

  It's one of those things where everybody does it and like, what the fuck?

• 2:23:14Speaker 02

  That is so bad.

• 2:23:15Joe Rogan?

  Let me try it again. Let me try it again. Everybody wants to try it again.

• 2:23:20Speaker 02

  That's brutal.

• 2:23:20Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's rough. It's rough stuff.

• 2:23:23Speaker 02

  What do they use that for besides?

• 2:23:25Joe Rogan?

  Weightlifters.

• 2:23:26Speaker 02

  Oh, if they get knocked out.

• 2:23:27Joe Rogan?

  No, no, no. They take it right before they power lift.

• 2:23:30Speaker 02

  Why?

• 2:23:31Joe Rogan?

  It get, it's like, it's apparently, I don't know the actual science, maybe Jamie can look it up. The idea, I think, that is it shocks your system, like just jolts everything alive. And then you're like, fuck it, ah! And then you can lift more weights. Allegedly.

• 2:23:46Speaker 02

  That's crazy, cuz I didn't even have it that close to my face.

• 2:23:49Joe Rogan?

  They used to use it with boxers, but they made it illegal. They would put it under a boxer's nose.

• 2:23:52Speaker 02

  To wake them up, right?

• 2:23:53Joe Rogan?

  To wake them up, yeah. If they got like rocked and hurt, they would snap them back.

• 2:24:00Joe Rogan?

  I don't even know if it works.

• 2:24:01Speaker 03

  Lots of athletes use it.

• 2:24:02Speaker 02

  What is that? What is it though?

• 2:24:04Joe Rogan?

  Is it legal for them?

• 2:24:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, well, they're using the smaller versions, but yeah.

• 2:24:07Joe Rogan?

  Why can't boxers use it then?

• 2:24:09Speaker 03

  I don't know that they can't.

• 2:24:10Joe Rogan?

  I don't think they can. I think smelling salts are illegal in between rounds. I think it actually was an issue that somebody brought up because... I think someone was asking why someone, it was one of the fight men in the UFC, one of the, um, excuse me, one of the cut men in the UFC, was holding someone's nose open after they got rocked, like with his finger, but it was just to create the more airway.

• 2:24:32Speaker 03

  It says that because they can cause, they can mask more serious injuries and cause further harm.

• 2:24:36Joe Rogan?

  Right, right, right.

• 2:24:36Speaker 03

  That's what the sinboxing is why it's.

• 2:24:38Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that makes sense. So like if you get rocked and then they give you smelling salts, you might think you're okay, but really you're still fucked up.

• 2:24:44Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:24:44Speaker 03

  The worst injury from them is, is what this is backing up. I, when I was looking into it is whiplash. It's not like burning your nose.

• 2:24:50Joe Rogan?

  That's hilarious.

• 2:24:51Speaker 02

  I was like from just going like that?

• 2:24:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, because you can't not react that way.

• 2:24:55Joe Rogan?

  That's hilarious.

• 2:24:56Speaker 03

  And people that are more hurt can fuck, get fucked up more.

• 2:24:59Joe Rogan?

  You need to do some neck exercises, homie. You get whiplash from that. That's ridiculous.

• 2:25:03Speaker 02

  You get into a car accident and you wanna, you want like to get more money? You just do that for whiplash?

• 2:25:08Joe Rogan?

  Take a couple blasts of that.

• 2:25:10Speaker 02

  What is that stuff? Like what? It just smells like ammonia kinda?

• 2:25:12Joe Rogan?

  I think it is ammonia. Yeah. Yeah, it's just ammonia in like crystal form. But this is this company is, uh, it's this, the product is called Ah. This is the strongest one we've ever tried.

• 2:25:24Speaker 02

  I mean, I've smelled it before too, but like that is very strong. It was like, it was like here and I smelled it.

• 2:25:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it was, this smelled so bad that it smelled inside the sealed container. So it had a sealed plastic container on the outside. I had to open that. I could smell it through the container before it was even open. Then once I unsealed it and opened the bag, while this was sealed and with like a, a top to the lid, like, so there's the top that's like sealed over the bottle and then the lid on top of the top.

• 2:25:49Speaker 02

  And you still smelled it through that?

• 2:25:50Joe Rogan?

  Still smelled it through that. With like the plastic seal, you gotta pull the seal back and everything. Once we opened it up, I could, it's just, it's insane. Whatever the fuck is in, whatever it does to your system.

• 2:26:02Speaker 02

  How do they like get it in crystal form? No. Okay. You do it first.

• 2:26:06Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 2:26:09Speaker 02

  Why would you go that close?

• 2:26:13Speaker 02

  That's pretty close.

• 2:26:19Joe Rogan?

  Get in there, girl. Big breath, big breath, big breath, big breath.

• 2:26:23Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 2:26:24Joe Rogan?

  No, that was nothing.

• 2:26:24Speaker 02

  I smelled enough.

• 2:26:25Joe Rogan?

  That was nothing.

• 2:26:26Speaker 02

  I don't care. I'm not gonna breathe in it, I'm gonna lie. I'm gonna pretend I'm doing it.

• 2:26:31Joe Rogan?

  You did it.

• 2:26:32Speaker 02

  That first time, that first time is like brutal.

• 2:26:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Doesn't it wake you up, though?

• 2:26:36Speaker 02

  It does, for sure.

• 2:26:38Joe Rogan?

  So if somebody had rocked you, if you're in there with some girl's boxing you up.

• 2:26:42Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:26:42Joe Rogan?

  Just piecing you up.

• 2:26:43Speaker 02

  And they just smell that.

• 2:26:44Joe Rogan?

  Gets you in the corner, you're like, whoo.

• 2:26:46Speaker 02

  I can see it making you like angry, too.

• 2:26:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. I would think it'd probably be good to mask any symptoms of you being hurt.

• 2:26:53Speaker 02

  They should've had that on the shit stick.

• 2:26:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, imagine just swallowing a bottle of that to kill yourself? Yeah!

• 2:27:01Speaker 02

  But that's better.

• 2:27:02Joe Rogan?

  Probably take a long time.

• 2:27:04Speaker 02

  You don't think you would die from that right away? It's ammonia.

• 2:27:06Joe Rogan?

  I wonder. Okay. How much ammonia would you have to consume for it to be lethal, Jamie?

• 2:27:12Speaker 02

  I feel like a cup.

• 2:27:14Joe Rogan?

  This is not even a cup.

• 2:27:15Speaker 02

  Well, that's in crystal form, though.

• 2:27:17Speaker 03

  I think it'd be prolonged. If it's the amount of time, you're probably doing it.

• 2:27:19Joe Rogan?

  But if you just down this whole thing, it should kill you.

• 2:27:22Speaker 03

  Swallowed it?

• 2:27:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, the whole thing. I feel like we shouldn't be giving anybody any ideas.

• 2:27:27Speaker 02

  Probably not. People were like eating Tide Pods, don't.

• 2:27:29Joe Rogan?

  They were, right? That was real.

• 2:27:31Speaker 02

  That's a crazy time, where like...

• 2:27:33Joe Rogan?

  I think China did that to us. I think they tricked us on the internet. Yeah, they got some like fake people to pretend to eat Tide Pods and talk dumb kids.

• 2:27:40Speaker 02

  Like, remember when they were locking up detergent because kids were eating Tide Pods?

• 2:27:46Speaker 02

  Where you're like, I don't know, man, if you're eating those Tide Pods, you deserve it.

• 2:27:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. We're always gonna have kids that do stupid shit. There's no way around that.

• 2:27:56Speaker 02

  Tide Pods is probably...

• 2:27:57Joe Rogan?

  I was lucky Tide Pods weren't around when I was a kid.

• 2:28:00Speaker 02

  You would've definitely been eating them.

• 2:28:01Joe Rogan?

  I know somebody who would've ate them. There's always that one kid in the neighborhood that'll do anything. Get attention, eat a bug.

• 2:28:07Speaker 02

  They do feel cool, though. They're like soft and...

• 2:28:11Joe Rogan?

  What is in them?

• 2:28:12Speaker 02

  Detergent.

• 2:28:13Speaker 03

  Oh, sorry, Tide Pods.

• 2:28:15Joe Rogan?

  What were you saying, Jamie?

• 2:28:15Speaker 03

  They were saying, this is probably how this got into sports. They thought it counteracted head trauma.

• 2:28:22Joe Rogan?

  Right, yeah. Wakes you up.

• 2:28:24Speaker 03

  Not ju- but I mean, fully like if you were knocked out.

• 2:28:28Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:28:28Speaker 03

  Which you had, I mean, you had a, I know it would wake you up, but like they thought it like fixed you.

• 2:28:31Joe Rogan?

  Right, they thought it brought you back. Well, they didn't know shit back then.

• 2:28:35Speaker 02

  I still smell it.

• 2:28:36Joe Rogan?

  I mean, when do you think they figured out brain damage? When they start figuring out if you get punched in the head too many times, you, you lose your ability to communicate.

• 2:28:43Speaker 02

  I think they probably knew it pretty early and they were like, I'm betting on this game, though.

• 2:28:48Speaker 02

  Let them keep it in each other.

• 2:28:50Joe Rogan?

  Well, they definitely knew about it because boxers were washed up even in the 50s and the 60s. But I don't think they understood the extent of it until probably like the 60s and the 70s. People started discussing like being punch drunk, punch drunk boxers. Like, I think boxers knew about it, but I think like the general public, it wasn't really a big thing.

• 2:29:09Speaker 02

  What about football people, like, you know, concussions and stuff?

• 2:29:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, for sure. They get it real bad. All of them. All, all contact athletes, your head getting jarred like that. But I think for us, the big one was Muhammad Ali because Muhammad Ali was such a cultural hero. And to see Muhammad Ali in this later stages of his life, like unable to communicate and shaking is like very disturbing. Because as much as they try to tell you that had nothing to do with boxing, like, come on.

• 2:29:35Speaker 02

  It definitely did.

• 2:29:36Joe Rogan?

  Of course it did.

• 2:29:37Speaker 02

  You jostling your brain around.

• 2:29:38Joe Rogan?

  But there's also a trauma-induced Parkinson's is a real thing.

• 2:29:42Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:29:43Joe Rogan?

  And so when you see people that are like Freddie Roach, who's a, he was a boxer and now is a famous trainer. He has trauma-induced Parkinson's. It's a shake that he tells you is from his career as a boxer. It's just something that happens to people. And so when you see it happen to someone like Muhammad Ali, you're like, fuck.

• 2:30:00Speaker 02

  Right, because this guy's like the, the sign of strength.

• 2:30:03Joe Rogan?

  Oh, not just a sign of strength, but the way he would talk was so different than any other boxer. He was so fast. He was so funny. Like Howard Cosell called him truculent once. He seemed very truculent champ. He goes, whatever truculent is, if it's good, I'm that.

• 2:30:18Speaker 02

  That's a great answer.

• 2:30:22Joe Rogan?

  He had so many funny things that he said. He was the first guy that was like talking shit in a funny way and getting the whole world to pay attention, you know? He said one of his opponents, I forget who it was, he goes, have you ever dreamed you beat me, you better wake up and apologize? He just said some funny, funny things he would say, but also like refused to fight in the Vietnam War. He said, hey, man, fuck you. I'm not going over there.

• 2:30:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, good for him.

• 2:30:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. And then lost his title, lost his ability to make a living for three years because of it. Like, the prime three years of his career was taken from him because he refused to fight in the Vietnam War. So he was, he was a lot more than just a fighter. He was like a cultural icon who defined rebelling against a corrupt and evil system. And then, you know, eventually at the end of his life, he was a victim of the sport that made him famous. And we watched it.

• 2:31:14Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:31:15Joe Rogan?

  And that's the first time we ever watched someone go from, you know,

• 2:31:20Joe Rogan?

  just celebrated for the way he talked to being unable to communicate at all.

• 2:31:23Speaker 03

  This gives two very different versions of when it was discovered.

• 2:31:28Joe Rogan?

  Ancient Egypt.

• 2:31:29Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:31:30Joe Rogan?

  1848 Phineas Gage, a railroad worker, survived a traumatic brain injury when an iron rod shot through his skull and destroyed much of his left frontal lobe. Gage's personality changed dramatically and his case considered a landmark in the study of brain damage and personality.

• 2:31:46Speaker 03

  So we have pictures of that.

• 2:31:47Joe Rogan?

  Yo, let's see the pictures. Oh, boy. Oh, boy.

• 2:31:53Speaker 03

  This says it went right through.

• 2:31:54Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my god.

• 2:31:56Speaker 03

  He didn't apparently feel much pain.

• 2:31:58Joe Rogan?

  Oh, boy.

• 2:31:59Speaker 03

  He was throwing up for every 20 minutes, but he was lucid and remained talking the whole time.

• 2:32:05Joe Rogan?

  So he just made like his hair part over the hole in his head?

• 2:32:08Speaker 03

  It said he had obliterated his left frontal lobe.

• 2:32:10Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 2:32:11Speaker 03

  He survived the accident of a 13 inch railroad rod.

• 2:32:17Joe Rogan?

  Is that the rod that he has in his hand?

• 2:32:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think so.

• 2:32:19Joe Rogan?

  Oh, Christ.

• 2:32:20Speaker 02

  He's kept it?

• 2:32:21Speaker 03

  That could be a gun or something.

• 2:32:22Joe Rogan?

  No, that looks like the rod, dude.

• 2:32:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:32:24Joe Rogan?

  That's the thing that went through his fucking head and he lived.

• 2:32:27Speaker 02

  And now he's keeping it.

• 2:32:28Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's what it looked like. Oh, my god.

• 2:32:35Speaker 02

  Wait, so it didn't go through his eye?

• 2:32:37Joe Rogan?

  It went through his head and destroyed his eye.

• 2:32:38Speaker 03

  On his jaw.

• 2:32:39Joe Rogan?

  What do you think that, what did it say it did to his personality?

• 2:32:43Speaker 03

  That's why, so this was like the first study in psychology, it's changed psychology and...

• 2:32:48Joe Rogan?

  Right. What did they say, how did they say it affected his personality? Phineas Gage on second thought, that's interesting. What does that say on the top, the title of it?

• 2:32:57Speaker 03

  For profane and hostile afterwards.

• 2:32:59Joe Rogan?

  A reexamination of the famous case of a man's personality change from a grievous brain injury.

• 2:33:09Joe Rogan?

  Uh huh.

• 2:33:12Joe Rogan?

  Okay, wait a minute.

• 2:33:14Speaker 03

  I know.

• 2:33:14Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:33:15Speaker 03

  Double across that.

• 2:33:16Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:33:17Speaker 03

  Alright, find another way.

• 2:33:19Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's hard to know. This is a funky site.

• 2:33:23Joe Rogan?

  The dude who runs that site's funky.

• 2:33:27Speaker 02

  I mean, I bet he wasn't a good time to be around.

• 2:33:29Joe Rogan?

  Well, it does definitely dramatically change people. Like, um, I was reading about this guy who developed, um, an ability to, uh, see mathematics in like geometric form. And, uh, it's called, uh, acquired savant syndrome. So this guy started creating like geometric art. Like, apparently had no interest in mathematics at all.

• 2:33:51Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:33:51Joe Rogan?

  And then I think he got mugged. I think he got beat up and, uh, then developed some bizarre mathematical ability.

• 2:34:00Speaker 02

  I mean, that's better than the people that have like traumatic brain injuries and become pedophiles. Like, definitely pray for the mathematic genius.

• 2:34:08Joe Rogan?

  Well, I know quite a few comics have had them. Roseanne Barr, Kinison, both got hit by cars. Both changed their personalities dramatically afterwards. It's probably like quite a few people that just got knocked in the head and then just became a different person.

• 2:34:23Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:34:23Joe Rogan?

  It's really weird. It's a sketchy thing.

• 2:34:27Speaker 02

  Oh, no, your joke was about somebody taking medicine.

• 2:34:30Joe Rogan?

  Oh, the, the joke about, yeah, the Parkinson's drug. That's true. That's true.

• 2:34:35Speaker 02

  That's crazy.

• 2:34:35Joe Rogan?

  It's so crazy. Yeah, it's called a dopamine agonist. And, uh, apparently with some people, it completely removes their inhibitions.

• 2:34:44Speaker 02

  Right, he was gambling.

• 2:34:45Joe Rogan?

  Gambling, gay sex, just went off the rails.

• 2:34:50Speaker 02

  And what did you say? He lost like six hundred thousand or something?

• 2:34:52Joe Rogan?

  Somewhere in the neighborhood of that, yeah. Lost everything.

• 2:34:57Speaker 02

  But then when he stopped taking the drug, he was okay.

• 2:35:00Joe Rogan?

  Got back to normal. He's like, what the fuck was I doing? He won in court, which is the craziest thing.

• 2:35:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, you said but he lost.

• 2:35:07Joe Rogan?

  He sued Galaxo Smith Klein.

• 2:35:08Speaker 02

  But he lost more money.

• 2:35:09Joe Rogan?

  He lost as much money as he gained back and he was also raped twice. Uh, no, raped once, I think. He was just randomly picked. He was raped? He was raped. He was raped. Yeah, he picked a guy up off Craigslist.

• 2:35:21Speaker 02

  I guess he didn't see that.

• 2:35:22Joe Rogan?

  He just became addicted to gay sex and gambling.

• 2:35:24Speaker 02

  It's crazy to like, stop doing that and then you're like, wow, I remember all those dicks I took.

• 2:35:29Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:35:30Speaker 02

  That was a crazy time.

• 2:35:31Joe Rogan?

  Well, he was a different human, like, his brain, like, we don't think about it this way, but your brain is essentially this functional ecosystem of all of these different things. Dopamine and serotonin, all these neurotransmitters, and, and then the blood that's flowing through your body, it's all operating on this sort of like, fairly regular schedule of what's available to use, and how you interpret consciousness based on the chemicals. And then all of a sudden, you introduce this new shit, and this new shit makes you want to suck cock and play bingo.

• 2:36:08Speaker 02

  It's just crazy that both of those things are like, the same in this guy's head.

• 2:36:13Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's just wild impulses. I'm sure he had probably other impulses, um, I don't know if he got more violent, but that, that sometimes happens where people like, can't control, you know, like, someone cuts you off in traffic, and you're like, oh, this fucking idiot.

• 2:36:25Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:36:25Joe Rogan?

  Well, they just fucking can't take it! They just want to just drive someone off the road, they just lose their impulse control. That happens to people with CTE as well. A lot of people with CTE, they have a very short fuse, like, very short fuse.

• 2:36:38Speaker 02

  Didn't they think that happened on Aaron Hernandez?

• 2:36:40Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:36:42Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they said he had the worst CTE, I think that they had ever diagnosed, and he was alive and 28. You know, so he wasn't, well, he's dead, obviously, because they did an autopsy, but I mean, he was alive at 28 before he killed himself with the worst CTE they had ever seen. So it hadn't even killed him.

• 2:37:01Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:37:02Joe Rogan?

  But it had destroyed his brain. I mean, his brain was destroyed. It was just filled with holes.

• 2:37:09Speaker 02

  That's crazy.

• 2:37:10Joe Rogan?

  Crazy. And, um, they said that, when they studied, uh, football players, there's some extraordinary number of football players that have CTE. It's in like, the high 90%. And this is not just college, this is high school, college.

• 2:37:26Speaker 02

  But all those people that, that have those high CTE counts, like, they're not killing people either.

• 2:37:30Joe Rogan?

  Some of them are.

• 2:37:31Speaker 02

  Not a lot.

• 2:37:32Joe Rogan?

  No, not a lot. But the thing about it is, first of all, when it's over, you, there's a lot of them that went up killing themselves. Um, that's a big thing with, uh, that happens with fighters, it happens with, uh, soldiers also, the PTSD compounding, the fact they have brain injuries. Lot of heavy depression. So, three hundred and forty-five NFL player, former NFL players with chronic traumatic encephalopathy out of three hundred and seventy-six former players studied. So, out of all those people studied, only thirty-one dudes didn't have it. So, it's ninety-one point seven percent. Among those diagnosed in the last year, two former players who once represented the teams, paired in the Sunday Super Bowl.

• 2:38:16Joe Rogan?

  Former Philadelphia Eagles quarterback. Could you do me a favor and just Google Aaron Hernandez CTE?

• 2:38:23Speaker 03

  I did, yeah, yeah.

• 2:38:24Joe Rogan?

  With results?

• 2:38:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, he had. The second highest you could have. I don't know the stages, but says stage three, worst you've ever seen in someone that young.

• 2:38:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:38:33Speaker 02

  Cause he was, yeah, that's what I was gonna say. He wasn't playing as long as some of these other people.

• 2:38:37Joe Rogan?

  That's what's crazy. Um, range of symptoms, including emotional and behavioral changes, memory loss, and depression. Yeah. Yeah. It's nuts. It's not since ninety-one percent of the players.

• 2:38:51Speaker 02

  It's crazy too that you just keep playing football because you make so much money from it.

• 2:38:55Joe Rogan?

  Well, I think Aaron Hernandez was a violent dude already. You know, there was like a lot of abuse in his childhood and there's a lot of crazy stuff.

• 2:39:03Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 2:39:03Joe Rogan?

  I think there's a lot going on with that guy.

• 2:39:05Speaker 02

  Right, so he might have been a little unhinged to begin with.

• 2:39:08Joe Rogan?

  He murdered a bunch of people, right? At least one. They think he murdered at least two.

• 2:39:12Speaker 02

  I thought it was like-

• 2:39:12Joe Rogan?

  They think he murdered two.

• 2:39:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, I thought it was two.

• 2:39:15Joe Rogan?

  But I think one is like confirmed. How many people did Aaron Hernandez murder?

• 2:39:19Speaker 02

  I know, I thought it was three.

• 2:39:21Speaker 03

  So, they're charged for one.

• 2:39:23Joe Rogan?

  I mean dudes, uh, playing in the NFL.

• 2:39:25Speaker 03

  He's acquitted of a double homicide.

• 2:39:26Joe Rogan?

  Playing in the NFL, superstar, also just gunning people down. With one of the worst examples of CT they've ever discovered.

• 2:39:36Speaker 03

  He was found guilty of first degree murder and sentenced to life in prison.

• 2:39:39Joe Rogan?

  Did he hang himself? Is that how he died? Did he hang himself?

• 2:39:43Speaker 03

  I believe so.

• 2:39:47Joe Rogan?

  Imagine like, an injury, like that dude with the rod through the brain, and now all of a sudden, you're a totally different person. Like, all your life, you've been one person, and then, gone. That person's gone.

• 2:39:58Speaker 02

  It's kind of fun.

• 2:40:00Joe Rogan?

  Maybe not.

• 2:40:01Speaker 02

  There's only one way to find out.

• 2:40:04Joe Rogan?

  You would try, like, you'd want to know, like, how hard do I have to get hit in the head to be really good at math? Like, you don't want to overdo it?

• 2:40:10Speaker 02

  No, you don't want to. You're like, "Keep pushing me, I still can't figure this equation out."

• 2:40:14Joe Rogan?

  "One more kick to the face, please. I think we're right there. I think I'm starting to see geometry."

• 2:40:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's crazy.

• 2:40:21Joe Rogan?

  But it doesn't happen to everybody. That's what's weird.

• 2:40:24Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:40:24Joe Rogan?

  Some people make some great comics, some people just make some brain-dead.

• 2:40:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:40:31Speaker 02

  There's a fine line.

• 2:40:32Joe Rogan?

  There's a fine line.

• 2:40:33Speaker 02

  Between genius and brain-dead.

• 2:40:34Joe Rogan?

  In everything, there's a fine line. Alright, should we wrap this up?

• 2:40:37Speaker 02

  Let's wrap it up.

• 2:40:38Joe Rogan?

  It was really fun.

• 2:40:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:40:39Joe Rogan?

  Always is. Thanks for being here.

• 2:40:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:40:40Joe Rogan?

  You're very funny. I really enjoy your comedy. I love the risks you take, you know, you just go for it. It's fun to watch. It's great. It really is. It's fun. It's a different thing than anybody else is doing, and people love it. I think there's reason for that. And I think you're like, one of those people that they have to find out about you to appreciate you. And, you know, that happened with a lot of people. That happened with, like, Steven Wright, that happened with, like, Mitch Hedberg. Like, people had to, like, know what they're coming for, to really appreciate it.

• 2:41:07Speaker 02

  Do you remember that story? I don't know if, when Mitch Hedberg did his special for Comedy Central? It took so long because he was, like, bombing the whole way through.

• 2:41:17Speaker 02

  You've never heard that? I mean, and he's like, a genius, but like, his special, he was not doing well, and they kept filming it. And like, finally, he's like, sitting down on those stairs, because I think he had been at it for a while. And you watch that special, and it's like, hilarious. He's like, a genius, so funny. But like, yeah, in the room, it just was not going well.

• 2:41:34Joe Rogan?

  Well, it all depended with Mitch on, also, who, is there a complimentary opening act that makes sense?

• 2:41:40Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 2:41:41Joe Rogan?

  Like, he would have guys on the road, he would like, have a middle act on the road that the club would provide. And that dude would be doing backflips and singing songs.

• 2:41:48Speaker 02

  Right, that's not a great person for you to follow.

• 2:41:50Joe Rogan?

  It's terrible. And so, people didn't know who he was back then. It was just, "Who's the headliner?" "Oh, there's a guy named Mitch Hedberg." Like, why does he have sunglasses on? Why is he staring at the ground?

• 2:41:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:41:59Joe Rogan?

  But, once they knew who he was, then they would come to see him, and then it was awesome. And I think there's a thing like that with you.

• 2:42:05Speaker 02

  Well, what's funny too is like Louis, you know, directed and he's like, let's do this thing. At first, he was like, let's do this thing where nobody knows you're filming a special. He's like, you know, you're just going out there and like, you know, usually half the crowd loves me and half the crowd doesn't. So I was like, let's do one show like that. And that show, I tap danced the whole way and it was so brutal. I left that, the first two shows we did, I was like, the first one was okay and the second one was so brutal because none of them knew who I were. They didn't know I was doing a special. They just thought they were coming for a regular show. And I'm up there for an hour. And people, like, there was like seven people that liked me, but like,

• 2:42:43Speaker 02

  we all left so dejected. Like Louis was like, I can't even watch this. And Ari, I seen Ari being like so depressed. And then I went home that night and I was like, I'm gonna have to quit comedy.

• 2:42:54Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my god.

• 2:42:55Speaker 02

  And then the next two shows the next night were amazing, but like, yes, I'm not for everyone.

• 2:42:59Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you're not for everybody.

• 2:43:01Speaker 02

  Not even my biological father.

• 2:43:05Joe Rogan?

  Well, you're for me. I appreciate you.

• 2:43:06Speaker 02

  Well, thank you. Thanks for having me.

• 2:43:08Joe Rogan?

  My pleasure. So, one more time, Jamie, show it. It's available now, Netflix, The Dark Queen. Tell people your Instagram, all that jazz.

• 2:43:17Speaker 02

  Uh, just my name, Adrian Appalucci.

• 2:43:19Joe Rogan?

  Spell it, though, because people are like,

• 2:43:21Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 2:43:21Joe Rogan?

  Appalucci must mean A.

• 2:43:23Speaker 02

  I know. Well, also too-

• 2:43:24Joe Rogan?

  But you have an I first. This funky I.

• 2:43:27Speaker 02

  But everyone always thinks it's an L, so that's why I was like, we need to use

• 2:43:30Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 2:43:31Speaker 02

  A font where it's an I. So it's A D R I E N N E, and then the last name's I A P A L U.

• 2:43:38Joe Rogan?

  Have you ever thought about just changing your last name to an A? Just put an A there?

• 2:43:41Speaker 02

  I mean, everyone thinks it's an L.

• 2:43:42Joe Rogan?

  How about just changing it, one big A? So people know how to say it.

• 2:43:45Speaker 02

  I feel like, I like being a little difficult.

• 2:43:48Joe Rogan?

  You do? That makes sense. Keep it that way. Don't listen to me. Thank you very much. Appreciate you very much. Bye, everybody.

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