Trisha Paytas: Internet Trolls, Kidnapping & Nudes (FBF)

Join Alex in the studio for an absolutely insane and hilarious interview with Trisha Paytas. Trisha takes Alex back to where it all started and reflects on growing up dreaming of becoming famous, having no friends in high school, and desperately wanting to escape her small town. She gets real about her problematic early days on YouTube, what was really going on in her personal life behind the scenes, and reveals her eventual rock bottom moment. Trisha opens up about being addicted to the drama and why she’s totally over it now. Then, Alex and Trisha crack up discussing nudes, internet trolls, and butt plugs. The pair also read some of Daddy Gang’s DM’s and give their advice on everything from what to do when your BFF is secretly hooking up with your brother to when you get caught sending nasty messages from a burner account. This episode is so chaotic and fun… get ready to laugh your ass off.

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:00Alex Cooper?

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• 3:14Alex Cooper?

  What is up Daddy gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy.

• 3:23Alex Cooper?

  Trisha Paytas, welcome to Call Her Daddy.

• 3:25Speaker 01

  I'm so excited.

• 3:26Alex Cooper?

  Um, Daddy gang, we're gonna be really honest with you right now. We were just recording for a solid 10 minutes. We were cruising down the freeway. We were thriving. And then we realized it wasn't recording.

• 3:36Speaker 01

  And it was gold. Those 10 minutes were gold. And we can't recreate it. You're like, pretend we didn't do any of that. I'm like, ah, I can't recreate that gold.

• 3:42Alex Cooper?

  Everything was going amazing. So if you guys feel like we're a little on edge here and ready, like, ready to end it all, it's because we are, okay? Um, I was saying to you, Trisha, congratulations, you just announced your second child. Tell me how you're feeling again.

• 3:58Speaker 01

  I feel very excited from the beginning. I'm like, do we go through everything we just said?

• 4:01Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 4:01Speaker 01

  Where did the names come from? I always thought all this in Malibu before the movies came out.

• 4:06Speaker 01

  From 10, I'm a middle child, older sister, brother, younger sister. You're the baby. Who are you close with? Brother, sister? You're like, I'm gonna get in trouble and that's when it cuts.

• 4:13Alex Cooper?

  You guys, we literally went through. Okay, no, we are doing it again. How are you feeling? Talk to me about all the food that you can eat because you're pregnant.

• 4:20Speaker 01

  Oh, I just feel, oh yeah, that's what we were saying. It's like, see now I forgot already. Um, yeah, I just feel like usually I do eat what I want, but I feel guilty about it. Now I just eat what I want and don't feel guilty. Cause you know, you're like growing a baby, so.

• 4:30Alex Cooper?

  You're growing a baby, you're allowed to just like shove food into your mouth and no one can get mad at you or judge you. It's like, fuck off, I'm pregnant, leave me alone.

• 4:37Speaker 01

  And most of the time I don't care what other people think. It's usually what I think. So it's usually like, oh no, I don't feel bad. Now I'm like, oh, I'm not judging myself and I can sleep all that I want. Usually I like, I gotta be busy, I gotta do. But now I just take naps and I don't even feel any guilt.

• 4:47Alex Cooper?

  You're napping and you're eating.

• 4:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's the best.

• 4:50Alex Cooper?

  I'm so happy for you.

• 4:51Speaker 01

  That's why I love being pregnant.

• 4:52Alex Cooper?

  You said you want more than two.

• 4:54Speaker 01

  Well, we thought two. I don't know. I don't know. We don't have two yet. One is very difficult.

• 4:59Alex Cooper?

  Right.

• 4:59Speaker 01

  In my head, I'm thinking like four, you know, cause we were talking about how three is like hard. So I was like, it's two or four.

• 5:05Alex Cooper?

  Okay. I know I already asked you this, but just to set the scene for people, where did you grow up?

• 5:09Speaker 01

  I was split my time between Illinois and California. My dad was in California and my mom was in Illinois. So I went back and forth a lot. I quit school a lot to like be homeschooled and stuff. Then I'd go back into school. Like I was constantly doing that. Cause I loved, I loved like the lifestyle here in California with my dad. But you know, my mom is what I used to. And like, we lived in a town of like a thousand people back in Illinois. So it was like two extremes. Yeah.

• 5:29Alex Cooper?

  Were you closer with your mom or your dad?

• 5:31Speaker 01

  Um, I mean, definitely my mom. Yeah. Like my dad, I saw like the summers, you know what I mean?

• 5:35Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 5:36Speaker 01

  Um, but my dad, I think in that though, I thought my dad was so cool. Cause he was like in California and I was like, even though like, obviously he was the worser of the parents, my mom literally raised us. I always felt bad saying like, my dad was the best.

• 5:46Alex Cooper?

  I feel like that happens so much when you come from divorced parents. The one that's like, the cooler one is actually just the one that never had to like instill any boundaries or like tell you like, you're grounded because you did this.

• 5:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 5:58Alex Cooper?

  Or like just was not the one parenting as much.

• 6:00Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 6:00Alex Cooper?

  And then you grow up and you're like, oh.

• 6:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:03Alex Cooper?

  Dad, maybe not as fabulous as mom putting in all the work.

• 6:07Speaker 01

  All the work. My mom worked four jobs, bus driver, bartender, all this stuff like that. And I'm like, I love my dad more. It was like so weird. But yeah, especially at the wedding, we had a wedding and like my dad walks us down the aisle and gives the speech and my moms don't get anything at the wedding and they do all the work. I kind of felt bad.

• 6:20Alex Cooper?

  Good point.

• 6:21Speaker 01

  Yeah. And my mom still helps us out. She's like watching our daughter right now.

• 6:41Alex Cooper?

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• 8:51Alex Cooper?

  Can you kind of paint the picture, though, like before high school, just like of your childhood? I feel like obviously so much of like who we are is from our childhood. And I know you just mentioned like your mom was working for jobs. Like, can you kind of just paint the picture growing up in Illinois with your mom?

• 9:06Speaker 01

  Um, yeah, we lived in like these farm towns and they were, yeah, they were less than a thousand people. We kind of moved around a little bit because, I don't know, I just never liked school. And, um, yeah, it was just small. It was a small town. It was a farm town. So everyone, and my mom like was from there. So it was just like farm town. My grandparents were on a farm. And there's just not much to it, to be honest. It's really just, it was so boring. And I just, I hated it. I haven't been back since. I left at 17 and I have not been back since.

• 9:31Alex Cooper?

  Oh, my God. Do you think if you landed in Illinois, like, would you get triggered?

• 9:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, for sure. Even just going to Chicago, which is like two hours from where I could live, I'm like, not Illinois.

• 9:40Alex Cooper?

  No. I kind of relate to that, though, and I think a lot of people, especially during the holidays, like I've seen people always say like, it's triggering to go back to your hometown. Because, one, I think we like repress so many memories. And two, it's just like, it just reminds us of a version of ourselves that like, if you were cool in middle school and high school, like, kudos to you, but like I wasn't.

• 10:00Speaker 01

  I was like, not really either. I wasn't like bullied really. I mean, a little tiny bit like everybody, but I wasn't cool either. So I was just, I was just neutral, just everywhere.

• 10:08Alex Cooper?

  Just kind of neutral. What did you want to be when you were growing up?

• 10:10Speaker 01

  Famous.

• 10:11Alex Cooper?

  Famous.

• 10:12Speaker 01

  I just wanted to be famous and this was before like reality TV. So I was like, I need to be a singer or an actress.

• 10:17Alex Cooper?

  Stop.

• 10:18Speaker 01

  But I can't do either of them, but I came out to do it. Cause that's all you got famous back then.

• 10:22Alex Cooper?

  So when you're sitting in Illinois, are you like, or were there any like TV shows or magazines or anything that you were watching or like people you were like, I want to be like that person?

• 10:31Speaker 01

  Brittany Spears, of course.

• 10:32Alex Cooper?

  Did you tell people in your town you wanted to be famous?

• 10:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, I was most, I was voted most likely to be famous in one, and I think two of my yearbooks. I was most likely to be famous. Yeah. Just cause I like was, I just liked attention. And like I said, I don't know. I just, I feel like I always stood out, you know, even feel like you just kind of know if you have like a little it factor, you know? So I knew I had something, but I was like, it wasn't talent. So I was like, how do I parlay this?

• 10:53Alex Cooper?

  Going back to high school, like, did you have a lot of girlfriends?

• 10:56Speaker 01

  No.

• 10:56Alex Cooper?

  No.

• 10:57Speaker 01

  I was, I was, I wouldn't say it picked me, but I definitely was like, girls are charm. I used to be that. I used to be the girl that like did not like girls because of that reason. Cause I was just intimidated. I just thought, oh, no guy's gonna look at me if I'm in a room of girl. I just was not a girl's girl. Like it took me a while. Um, now I'm only a girl's girl and like can't stand like men. But it took me a while. I definitely was insecure. Never wanted to be around girls. You know what I mean? I just, I think I was always a girl hater, especially just like, I just never felt good enough. I never felt skinny enough, pretty enough. I never had boyfriends until I was like 30. So, yeah.

• 11:26Alex Cooper?

  No, I think that's relatable though of like when, especially when we're younger, like we're constantly comparing ourselves in rooms because at that age, it's also like what guy likes what girl? And if you're not getting picked, then you feel like a loser and you feel like fuck, like I wish I looked like them. And then it's just this comparing game that you can never win.

• 11:44Speaker 01

  Definitely.

• 11:44Alex Cooper?

  So it's hard to, like, I had that a lot where I like, my best friend was like the gorgeous one. And I was always like, I love you so much, but like, fuck me.

• 11:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, don't be around me.

• 11:54Alex Cooper?

  Right. Like, can you move a little to the fucking right?

• 11:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 11:58Alex Cooper?

  Too good in parties. And I'd be like, I'm literally never going to get chosen if you are sitting next to me.

• 12:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 12:03Alex Cooper?

  And it's hard with girls, but it's like, now I look back and I'm like, oh my God, it wasn't actually about us competing with each other. It was about the men.

• 12:10Speaker 01

  Uh.

• 12:11Alex Cooper?

  That we were trying to like appease their standards and had nothing to do with the girls like liking each other or not.

• 12:17Speaker 01

  No.

• 12:17Alex Cooper?

  All about based off of if guys like.

• 12:19Speaker 01

  Of course, with everything, with acting, with anything. It's just like, you know, it's just what they, what they approved of, what they liked and had nothing to do with you. So I know. I wish I would have found my own lane earlier. Cause I, and I do love pretty girls. I'm like, I actually like am obsessed with pretty girls. I just like, was just too scared to be around them.

• 12:34Alex Cooper?

  No, it is intimidating. Like, I agree, like you, and, and also it's hard to not be envious of like, I wish I had what you have and like, I wish I was you. But at the end of the day, once you get to know those people, a lot of times, they've got their own shit.

• 12:45Speaker 01

  Oh, for sure.

• 12:45Alex Cooper?

  They're not perfect either.

• 12:46Speaker 01

  Oh, no, for sure. I was always envious of you. I was very envious of you. I remember like when I, I think it was like 2019, 2018, you girls were on Impulsive. And I remember being like, and I didn't know anything about podcasts. I didn't know how people got podcasts. And I remember just being so jealous. I was like, wow, they have a job where they're just like talking and talking about sex. I was like, I could do that. That could be me. And I was like, how did they get this? And you girls were so much younger. I was like so jealous. And then, obviously when you get your Spotify idea, I was just like, oh my God. You know, I was, I was that person who was so jealous.

• 13:13Alex Cooper?

  Dude, it's so funny, Trisha, because I remember just like watching you on YouTube so often. And I would be so jealous of you because before I started my career, I'm like, I wish I had Trisha's platform. I wish I could like, sit on YouTube and like do what she does.

• 13:27Speaker 01

  That's crazy because I was like alone and crying all the time. Like, I wish I could be that person.

• 13:32Alex Cooper?

  That is so crazy that we're both like, oh, I was jealous of you.

• 13:35Speaker 01

  Oh, for sure. I definitely was. I definitely was just like, I don't get Call Her Daddy. I definitely was. So when I did this, I was like, all I know is that clip is gonna be resurfacing. So let me just go ahead and say it.

• 13:42Alex Cooper?

  It's so funny because I had one of my really good friends now, she went on a podcast at one point and was like, I don't get the Call Her Daddy girl shtick. It's so fucking dumb. Why are they acting like that? They're like acting like little whores. Like, I, I'm the first person and I think that we can talk about that too with your career of like, by having a career on the internet, you just say so much stuff. And half of the time in the beginning days, I felt like I also said stuff that I regret. And I remember in those OG days back in the day with my old co-host, like we, when we started to get desperate for views, we would like, say stuff about celebrities. And I'm so deeply embarrassed that we said those things. But I know it wasn't coming from a place of like actually being like mean girls. It was, I know from my POV, it was genuinely just like,

• 14:27Alex Cooper?

  how do we stir shit up?

• 14:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:28Alex Cooper?

  And it, you can teeter this line that's so unhealthy. And you just become like, how do we get more? How do we get more?

• 14:34Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 14:35Alex Cooper?

  And I'm like, why did I say that? So if that clip resurfaces, I wouldn't give a fuck. I literally wouldn't, Trisha, because I, first of all, you didn't know me. You had never met me.

• 14:44Speaker 01

  jealous a hundred percent because honestly as soon as they called for this like literally like my management from Canada flew in they're like this is I'm like yes this is the biggest thing you know what I mean so I think but I really try in the past especially since being thirty I really try now to really just not hate on girls even if like everyone's hanging on him I really try to find like even with data pink I'm like I try to find like the good side of this I'm like you know she dealt through a lot now she can so I try to I try to keep it positive with every girl you know

• 15:07Alex Cooper?

  I agree you're right I think what we can both understand it's like being in the media a lot of times when we do the stupidest shit is when we're hurting the most and so trying to find like any type of empathy for anyone when you see someone like acting out it's like well what the hell are they going through

• 15:23Speaker 01

  there's still people that like I can like oh I just can't find the silver lining if I just go I scroll past but now I don't like to say anything I'm like let me just if you have nothing nice to say don't say it all so I I feel like I've matured a lot and like I don't really like hate on girls but if there is a girl that annoys you and there is like I just annoy some people just you know I just keep it going it just makes you look bad like I just look so bad like you said I just look so bad talking like so much crap about people but I really can tell you like it came always from a place of like jealousy always like I used to talk about like the demelios when they were like eighteen and sixteen and I was just like I was so jealous that I wasn't me but I was like thirty years old being like oh my god you're speaking out of snail how ungrateful like you know they're eighteen

• 15:56Alex Cooper?

  no but I also think that comes from a place too of like people on the internet then probably like writing to you being like saying mean things about like I get it now like relevancy or like age as a woman and it's like as a woman if you're past the age of twenty one you're like old as fuck and you're outdated and so naturally that's gonna cause resentment of us feeling like when you see younger girls but really we shouldn't be mad at younger girls we should be mad at society and mainly men being the ones that tell us like after a certain age you're not valued anymore

• 16:28Speaker 01

  thousand percent true right right exactly

• 16:30Alex Cooper?

  fuck you

• 16:32Speaker 01

  I love it no it's true it is true

• 16:34Alex Cooper?

  I want to talk about you going to LA so you graduate high school and I remember reading like the day after you moved to LA

• 16:41Speaker 01

  yeah like literally the day of yeah

• 16:42Alex Cooper?

  what was your plan and what was your job when you got to LA

• 16:45Speaker 01

  um well I initially moved with my dad so that was the first thing I'm like lasted about he wanted me to go to college so I went to like two weeks of like community college it did not work out Because I never had a math class in my life in high school. So I took like a pre-algebra and I like had no idea what was going on. So I was like, I drop out. Um, and so yeah, I got on a TV show right away. I got on a show called The Greg Berant Show. It was like filmed at Culver Studios. It was like syndication show. It was like a talk show. And so I did like 10 episodes of that. I was in Sega after. So I was getting like, you know, seventeen hundred dollars an episode, which was like so much. It was great. And then I got another show with Stan Lee called Who Wants to be a Superhero? It was on sci-fi. So I was like crushing it. That was like 18 and then like 19 hit. And then I kind of like, ooh, I had no money, nothing. And then that's when I did the whole stripping, escorting. I wouldn't even say escort. I was like a hooker on the street, but I like to say escorting. It sounds like fancier.

• 17:27Alex Cooper?

  Trisha, slow down.

• 17:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 17:28Alex Cooper?

  Hold on. Trisha's like, I can go, I love how fast you can talk. You're like, I can go through my entire life story.

• 17:33Speaker 01

  Literally.

• 17:33Alex Cooper?

  I'm like, Trisha, we need to like get an hour in here.

• 17:36Speaker 01

  I'm like, Brad, 18 and I'm like, we gotta get to 35.

• 17:39Alex Cooper?

  Okay, first of all, I'm dying at your math comment because I was so fucking bad at math. Shout out to Oscar. He was this kid in my math class that he would, I would sit next to Oscar. And I would pretend I'm writing my whole math class, do, do, do, do, doing nothing. Then when Oscar was done his, he would hand me his test and I would hand him my test and he would take my test for me and he would like even like change like his writing to be more girly. And then Oscar would hand me back my test and I would go hand it in. And I'm like, Oscar, I knew he was like going to Harvard or something. And I was just like not meant for math. And I just knew like there's, there's gonna be a phone for a reason that has a calculator. I don't need to know like the square root of things.

• 18:17Speaker 01

  You manifested or you knew? There was already cell phones back then. Way to have cell phones in high school. So I don't know.

• 18:23Alex Cooper?

  We did have cell phones, but you know.

• 18:26Speaker 01

  I just like manifested. This is gonna happen one day. I was like, wow, you made the iPhone happen.

• 18:33Alex Cooper?

  Honestly, I absolutely will take credit for that.

• 18:37Alex Cooper?

  I'm dead. Yes, I absolutely made the iPhone happen for sure. 100%. And then I, no, I was like, I just knew I didn't need math in my fucking life because I knew I wanted to be in entertainment. Did you ever cheat in school?

• 18:49Speaker 01

  No, I've never had friends. So like my friends were literally like I said, I was just like hitting up like celebrities, just trying to be like, hey, but I've never had friends in school, never had friends now. I'm just not a friend person. I don't know. But I'm really trying now with my daughter. I really am like being trying to be as social as possible. Like we're going to birthday parties for her because I just don't want her to grow up like that with like no I don't really mind it doesn't make me sad because I don't know any different.

• 19:09Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 19:10Speaker 01

  And also I'm just like not a great friend because I'm not someone to like hang out with all the time. I've just never been that person. So, but I'm trying out for my daughter. Like we gotta make her friends, make sure she's social and yeah.

• 19:18Alex Cooper?

  Okay, let's talk about you saying so casually when you're talking this fast, you're like, okay, and then I'm going to just.

• 19:22Speaker 01

  I love it. You have an hour. So I was like, let's get it in an hour. Our podcast goes like three and a half hours. So I'm like, I gotta get it all in.

• 19:28Alex Cooper?

  We know. I was more saying, Tricia, we need to at least get to an hour. You're going to talk about your whole life story in 30 seconds. You're like, okay.

• 19:36Alex Cooper?

  Okay, so you got finally after like you were in LA for a second, you were having some success and then you just casually were like, and then I became a stripper and an escort, but not really. What happened?

• 19:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. So I just had like no money. I was just like running out of money. My mom like was helping me as much she could and then she kind of ran out of money. I like maxed out her cards and stuff. So we all ran out of money. Um, she had a husband at the time. So she was like living with him and she was like, fine, but my dad was not in the picture at all. Like he hated that I moved out, like cut me off completely. So I had like no help, no money. And so I didn't know what to do. I didn't like, I wasn't educated. Like, you know, I didn't have college degrees. I had no idea. I could, I tried to do like the regular jobs, you know, like making smoothies and stuff, but that was just like, oh, not for me either. And I just, you know, love the stripper life as like in movies. Like I loved it. I thought it was like so glamorous. So I'm like, this is going to be for me, but like my stripper life was not glamorous. I was like literally at like Canoga Park, like V and I is like Godfathers. It was like super sketchy. I wanted to be at Spearmint Rhino, but that was like the bougie pretty girls with the fake boobs already.

• 20:28Speaker 01

  I was in like, I don't know. If you know Godfathers, it's just like sketchy. Um, so yeah, I had a stripper life and then, yeah, then I just, you know. I think casually then you just start, because like Hansa Palvira there is like a bunch of hookers. Like so I just casually started like going on the street because you just get more money that way. Don't put it with the club and stuff like that. But, um, I was like, I was kind of like out of my mind there. I would never, I don't consider myself like an addict, but I definitely was using a lot back then.

• 20:52Alex Cooper?

  Okay. Can I ask what you were using?

• 20:54Speaker 01

  Back then it was just like, I did a lot of coke. I did a lot of like. I didn't do meth until like 2019, but I did do stuff that I didn't know. Maybe it was like. You know the ones where you snort with like rocks. I don't know if that's meth. I don't know what it was, but I was like snorting rocks. Yeah, I literally didn't know what any of the drugs were. I just know I did a lot of just everything was snorting. And one was like really rocks, like it was just like hurt my nose all the time like that. And so, uh, I was just, yeah, I was just doing a lot of that stuff. I was just like out of my mind, honestly, whatever people gave me. And at eighteen and nineteen, you're just kind of like, don't care. You know, I didn't care. I was like, I don't really care where my life goes.

• 21:27Alex Cooper?

  When you said your dad cut you off, like what happened?

• 21:30Speaker 01

  Oh, just cause like I didn't want to do school and he's just like, I don't know, I'm not gonna support you. And yeah, I mean.

• 21:36Alex Cooper?

  You were on your own.

• 21:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, so I was like, alright.

• 21:38Alex Cooper?

  Were you scared at all whenever you were stripping? Like, were there any moments where you like got into situations where you're like, I am like a little scared?

• 21:45Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, I feel like all of it, like going home with guys all the time. Like, yeah, it's crazy that like I'm alive. It all scared me. Um. I guess at the time you just didn't get scared, cause you don't think about it, right?

• 21:56Alex Cooper?

  No, I, I get that. I think it's like when you almost like can get into something that you just kind of fall into and then you can almost just like keep going down that rabbit hole and you almost don't know when like to stop or when to like check yourself. Cause again, you're right at that age, like if you don't have someone like that's a parent being like, stop it, you kind of can just start to go wild. And like not know like what is bad, what is good. And I'm finding myself and I'm figuring myself out. And if you didn't have friends, like you kind of had no one probably to compare yourself to, like my friends aren't doing this. Had you ever done drugs before you went to LA?

• 22:30Speaker 01

  No, no, I was super good. I never drank. Like I just didn't, I wasn't having like sex in high school or something like that. Cause I just never, I never was that person. I don't know. So maybe I just thought like LA, be wild, you know what I mean? I thought, and again, I think being insecure, I just was like, you thought like having sex meant like you're so attractive, like everybody wants you, you know? And you get paid for it. Like, that's actually insane to like to me. I was like, oh my gosh, like people are gonna pay me to have sex with them? That's wild.

• 22:52Alex Cooper?

  You're right, though. I, I can see what you're saying of like going from like being in a position where you're like, oh, like I wanted to be liked by these men and then to get this profession where like they all love you and they're all paying attention to you. But then I can imagine like the drugs probably made you get into situations. Like, could, could you share any stories of just like situations you got into that you woke up? And you're like, why did this happen?

• 23:15Speaker 01

  Oh, my gosh. I mean, honestly, a lot of them that I like blacked out. I mean, really just, I mean, I've been kidnapped a bunch of times where it's just like you'd wake up in like a truck and the truck's moving and stuff like that. Yeah.

• 23:24Alex Cooper?

  Trisha?

• 23:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 23:26Alex Cooper?

  Sorry, what?

• 23:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, I got kidnapped. Well, I guess, I don't know if it's kidnapping if you're over eighteen, but I was nineteen. I've been abducted, I guess.

• 23:36Alex Cooper?

  It's kidnapping, no matter if you're forty five.

• 23:38Speaker 01

  Wait, really?

• 23:39Alex Cooper?

  Yes.

• 23:40Speaker 01

  I could be kidnapped at thirty five?

• 23:41Alex Cooper?

  Yes.

• 23:42Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 23:42Alex Cooper?

  We, we.

• 23:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, I was, yeah.

• 23:45Alex Cooper?

  Can you walk?

• 23:46Speaker 01

  But it's like, it's in the sense where it's like, I don't know where I met. Like, I go with somebody and all of a sudden you wake up, you're like, oh, in someone's truck and stuff like that.

• 23:53Alex Cooper?

  At one point in your life, you woke up in the back of a truck.

• 23:55Speaker 01

  I mean, multiple times, yeah, for sure. Yeah, it's crazy. There's like, and you know, back then, again, you don't think in there, but you're like, well, I went with this person willingly. So, yeah, you just don't think about stuff like that.

• 24:06Alex Cooper?

  When you would wake up in the back of those trucks, like, what did you do?

• 24:10Speaker 01

  You kind of just don't do anything. Well, you know, you're like coming off a drug, so you kind of just like let things happen. You're just like, oh, and then they like let you off or something like that. So you kind of just, and you don't, again, I just, I didn't think of it like anything. I hear people talk about their stories and for me, it just like, I say it casually because it's, to me, it almost seems casual. Like, it almost seems like, oh, well, that's what I was doing, I guess, even if I didn't want it, or like someone like, you know, brought me with them. Like, it's kind of a, I don't know. I'm like, well, this is the life I chose, you know, which is like such a weird way to think. And of course, anybody else in this situation, I'd be like, oh, my God, that's so awful. But for me, I just thought, well, this is what I chose, but.

• 24:44Alex Cooper?

  I think also there's a level of like, at some point, you kind of have to just like disconnect from it because a lot of that, like, for any woman listening, like, that is, I'm sitting here being like, sorry, you woke up in the back of a truck? Like, that's so scary.

• 24:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:56Alex Cooper?

  I do think, obviously, when you're on drugs, though, everything can become way less intimidating because you, your senses are like not heightened whatsoever. You're just like, kind of in a sedated state.

• 25:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:08Alex Cooper?

  So like, you can't really, you don't have the ability to like, make maybe the decisions you would make when you're sober.

• 25:13Speaker 01

  Oh, for sure.

• 25:14Alex Cooper?

  Um, but when you look back at yourself in those situations, like, how do you feel?

• 25:18Speaker 01

  It's almost like I just don't even know that life. You know, it's kind of like my high school life. I don't know that life. I don't know. Like, there's so many stages I look back on it. I'm like, oh, I don't even like recognize, like, I remember it. Um, but some of it, I don't even like recognize, you know what I mean? Because I was just so, such a different person. And it almost, it almost seems like I'm telling a story. You know what I mean? Like, it almost doesn't seem like my life. It's almost like, this is a story about this girl, but like, it like, you know, and I, it took me a while. I didn't go. Therapy for like a really long time and even in therapy now I like don't talk about it cuz it's just like it's not trauma to me you know stuff that happened to me as a kid too I'm just like oh it's not trauma even though like it is It's just like I don't know I don't like it's like it's not something I'm like uncomfortable talking about what with like therapy I don't get deep into it cuz I'm like it's fine and they're like no it's not but I'm like to me it's fine like you know it doesn't I don't think it affected me but they're saying it does and

• 26:02Speaker 01

  It probably did cuz I mean I am kinda I was messed up for a long time so

• 26:06Alex Cooper?

  Well yeah I think a lot of the time it's like the body keeps things in but like if you've done such a good job essentially like dissociating from it like I get what you're saying like you're telling the story But you don't personally feel That affected by it right now cuz you have survived through it and you're like I don't really like connect to that person anymore Which I think is how a lot of people survive and I think there's also like a stigma where people which I completely understand when people would look at you being like well you have to figure it out you have to solve it I think that there's a lot of people that don't wanna go and relive some things and I think that's okay Obviously if it's like significantly affecting your life to this day where like you're having like

• 26:47Alex Cooper?

  Whether you're feeling like if you're having sex you're getting triggered or you're having PTSD or flashbacks like That's usually when to like open it back up but like

• 26:55Speaker 01

  Definitely yeah

• 26:56Alex Cooper?

  Everyone has to figure it out on their own time

• 26:58Speaker 01

  Yeah I definitely had that I've definitely had that where I had to like talk to someone cuz it was like if someone like touched me like I was you know it's like Just dealing with all that stuff so I've definitely dealt with that for sure but yeah

• 27:07Alex Cooper?

  Yeah I'm curious like going through that with men and like being in positions where obviously I'm sure like you've kind of alluded like There's taken like taking advantage moments like how did you kinda like rebuild your relationship to men?

• 27:20Speaker 01

  I think I just like always hated men and I feel like I'm still kinda there especially like giving birth I just had like such bad experiences with men like not understanding postpartum like just So I just I've just all my life is just like any type of men I've just like I don't know I feel like I wanted their like validation And they were all awful so I feel like I have still such a strong hatred I think if there's anything to fix it's like maybe my hatred towards men And like it's like it's not even just like me being this feminist men suck you know it's just like I really dislike them and when I like have to talk to a straight like this year I really made a Conscious effort to do only female podcasts like I make don't want to talk to like men like I don't know what it is and it's like that's obviously not right either you want to like be equal and like you know not hate men but

• 28:01Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, no, but I get what you're saying. I think like when you've been like fucked over or wronged by men or even just as simple as like They don't understand women and there are some men that when you're actually looking at them in the eyes, you're like, oh, you don't get what I'm talking about. You don't get what I'm like even trying to say to you and that can be so infuriating and it's not worth our time sometimes like it's not our Job to educate men on why we should be treated equally to them or why we should like have respect like If you're talking so there are some men that are great like your husband seems great but like overall I get what you're saying of like the trauma of Having men fail you so many times in your life, why would you like them?

• 28:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, and that's how I feel and you're right. There are there are like my husband's like amazing and I have like a friend that has like an amazing husband too and it's like There are some good ones, but then you hear on TikTok so many horror stories of men that don't want to change diapers Or they don't want to like be planned the wedding or they like just constantly like like that to me is like so and I hear it all the time. I'm like, God, that's so like triggering. I'm just like, you know what I mean? Just the way they treat women. It just makes me so upset. I don't know.

• 29:00Alex Cooper?

  So fucked up and then to see like how many women then want to have like a say on what women do with their bodies.

• 29:05Speaker 01

  Oh, wow. That's a whole other that is yeah.

• 29:07Alex Cooper?

  Girl.

• 29:07Speaker 01

  That's what I'm saying with like postpartum or hormones when you're pregnant, all the stuff, you know, all the abortion stuff and so it's just like It's infuriating that like men have a say period and I just feel like men should not have a say ever about anything like Just don't say anything like giving birth giving after like after I gave birth, I had so many guys online like criticized me for Taking fentanyl for having a C-section because I was, you know, I had an addiction to like drugs at one point and like, oh, well, she said she never took drugs, but she took fentanyl for a C-section. I'm like, they They make you because they're cutting you open like I don't get the choice not to really so. Yeah. And so I think all of that really made me hate men even more and straight and gay because you know what I mean? Like they both Kind of don't get sometimes. So I was like, ugh. So even I had like a hairdresser. I was just like, I had this. Now it's like, okay, now I'm letting gay men back into my life more, but like

• 29:48Speaker 01

  The straight men is still hard for me. You know what I mean? And it's it's one thing and I think because I'm married now, I don't even really need them as I Used to think I needed them in the past was like dating and stuff.

• 29:57Alex Cooper?

  When you're in the dating world, like I'm sorry, but like I get it. Women are always gonna try to like, look cute for the day and look this way and talk this way. Like, there are little things we always do because we still live in a man's world.

• 30:08Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 30:08Alex Cooper?

  It's like, we have to be delicate with how we unravel it. But once you're in a healthy, safe relationship, it's kinda nice, you're right, to be like, I now don't need men. And if I'm gonna interact with men, it's gonna be on my terms.

• 30:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's the best. It's the best feeling. It's just so great. And I'm like, I don't care if I'm skinny enough. I don't care if I'm, if there's a prettier girl in the room to me. Like, none of it matters, you know, so it's just like, it's so freeing. It's so wonderful. Like you said, if you're in a good relationship, the wrong relationship will make you feel the opposite.

• 30:33Alex Cooper?

  That's almost worse than being in the dating game.

• 30:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's awful. You're like, yeah.

• 30:36Alex Cooper?

  And I'm sure, like, I'm sure so many women, including ourselves, sitting here, have been in those type of relationships where you're like, I am a shell of a human. I was, I was better off when I was dating a bunch of assholes, but going on dates rather than being with one guy that has your claws in you, that's so like, manipulative and like emotionally or physically abusive, whatever it is, like.

• 30:55Speaker 01

  The worst, calling you crazy, judging what you eat, counting how many nuggets you eat. It's like, that to me, and I thought I was like, so in love, and then you look back and you're just like, oh my god, this person like hated me. But I was trying so hard, everything I could, and I'm like, and it's happened, yeah, it's happened. I've only been in like, two relationships, so it's like, both my relationships are horrible.

• 31:09Alex Cooper?

  You had a man that would count how many chicken nuggets you would eat?

• 31:15Alex Cooper?

  What the?

• 31:15Speaker 01

  On camera.

• 31:16Alex Cooper?

  No.

• 31:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's like, still out there. It's like, compilations of all the time, yeah. It's like, that to me is the most traumatic thing of my life. I've been kidnapped probably over forty times, but that was the most traumatizing. Thinking about it, I like disassociate right now. I'm like, oh no. I like get scared. I don't know. It's like such a weird thing.

• 31:33Alex Cooper?

  You're like, leave me the fuck alone. Let me eat my nuggets in peace, you piece of shit.

• 31:37Speaker 01

  It was, it's like, so, it's actually, it's like traumatizing. When I think back, I'm like, oh my god. And to this day, I literally had to cry the other night, like, we were eating pasta, like, something triggered me from like, that relationship. And I was just like, and it's so weird, like, I'm so, like, I never think about it, whatever, but there's like, this, like, I was eating this pasta, and I was like, oh my god, I just started like crying, and I was just like, I feel like a disgusting person for eating this. And my husband is like, so great. He's just like, pasta's like, the most like, popular food. It's in every country, like, what, like, it's totally normal for you to eat this.

• 32:03Alex Cooper?

  Right. It's like, it's like, wipe your tears and eat your pasta, Trisha.

• 32:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:07Alex Cooper?

  Okay, I read a study that like, pasta makes you happier.

• 32:09Speaker 01

  I repost that. Instagram all the time. I always see you see it. Yeah. I was like repost.

• 32:13Alex Cooper?

  I'm like, absolutely happier. Let's go pasta every night.

• 32:17Speaker 01

  I eat pasta every day. Usually I don't care. And then like, I don't know.

• 32:20Alex Cooper?

  Third day.

• 32:21Speaker 01

  Started a spiral for some reason.

• 32:22Alex Cooper?

  I totally get it.

• 32:40Alex Cooper?

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• 35:22Speaker 01

  God, so many, so many. That was, that was rock bottom moment in like when I was 19 that happened. Like I literally, I lived next to, his name was Christopher Dennis. He was the Hollywood Superman. There was a documentary made about him and he, he recently passed. He was so sad. But he, um, he found me just completely like in piss and shit, all this stuff. Cause my, my apartment didn't even have a doorknob. It was on Yucca and Highland. There was like no doorknob. I think it's still there. It's like behind a liquor store now. And he like found me and like my dad and I hadn't talked for like two and a half years at this point. And I don't know how, I don't know if he called him, whatever. But my dad like showed up, took me to like Riverside Hospital. I was in there for like three weeks in like 2007, 2008. And, um, yeah. And then I, I kind of got a little better. Then my dad was trying to get me back to go to college, did that for like six months and then I moved

• 36:05Speaker 01

  back out again. My mom came out. So, but that was a rock bottom. And then 2019 was my rock, rock bottom. 2019 was my, the meth, I was in three mental hospitals. I, that's when I was like really hardcore into meth. There was two guys that I dated, um, who both have since passed from overdoses. And, um, yeah, I was just, I was just wild. I think I slept with probably like 200 guys that in one year, three mental hospitals, like just really. Myself, the internet. Oh, my God. Everybody was making like hate videos about me like PewDiePie made a hate video. I was like, oh, my God, like, what did I even do? So it was like my rock rock bottom and which ironically I was the skinniest. So

• 36:43Speaker 01

  sometimes it's like I want to be skinny. And then I was like, oh, maybe not. That 2019 was a rough.

• 36:48Alex Cooper?

  Oh, my God. Wow.

• 36:51Speaker 01

  And that was documented that 2019. That was a rough year.

• 36:53Alex Cooper?

  Cause you were on YouTube at that point.

• 36:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, I was making like a lot of videos. There's a lot of deleted videos with the people I was with. Um, yeah, just was really like crazy.

• 37:02Alex Cooper?

  Let's talk about your OG YouTube days because yes, there were some videos put out that like people considered controversial and people like tried to bring your old YouTube videos back to this day like you got involved in like, I feel like a good bit of drama back then. Like when you look back at the OG YouTube days, how do you feel about them? And how would you even describe them?

• 37:25Speaker 01

  It's like so many eras of YouTube too. Like the OG ones were just like so great. It was like before you could make money on YouTube. It was just like fun. And then you start making money and then it's like, where do you find your knees? Like I said, I never felt like I had like talents. I was like, what can I do? Oh, I can like piss people off. I can do this. So I definitely went like the trolling route because it was like the most money I ever made without having to like strip or hook. And I was just like, this is it, you know? So yeah, I definitely had a lot of like problematic videos and just stuff that like I didn't necessarily even think. I think if I was like me, I could like hold stronger to like, oh, I was just like young or whatever. But it was just like stuff I'd hear other people say that were like, and I would just like repeat it. I just wanted to be shocking and um, you know, and I like, I totally own up to it. And I look back at my videos. I'm like, well, you know, some of them are pretty bad, but

• 38:09Speaker 01

  I try to give myself grace and forgiveness with that because I used to be really hard on myself. I'm like, I know I suck. I'm problematic. And to this day, like I don't get sponsored on my podcast, like shout out to our Patreon, like our Patreons do it and stuff. So it's, you know, it's great. But um, yeah, I definitely forever have like this like mark on me on the internet of like, kind of like, mm, she's a little controversial or you know, you just, people don't want you like around. But you know, it's, it's fine. Like again, I My word of wise to people when I see people trolling now on the internet is like just maybe don't because it'll like follow you forever. People will think of you as that forever. And rightfully so, like, you know, like those clips will always be out there and people either see the change and the growth or they don't. And I think either one you just have to like work with, you know?

• 38:47Alex Cooper?

  But I do think it's helpful that you're like explaining your backstory. And that's why I wanted to talk to you about it today because it's like for sure. I bet I'll get comments being like, why the fuck are you having Trisha Paytas on like what the fuck? I totally understand that. I also though think it's important, like the fact that you just said like, I could make more money doing this than stripping and hooking. It's like, okay, like it's good to know someone's backstory. And I think when, again, when you're saying those type of things, usually the people that are saying those things, you're not in a great place.

• 39:17Speaker 01

  Never. Oh, my gosh. Oh, back then I just couldn't, I didn't care about me, my, I didn't think anything of the future. I was just like, I need to make money now. I'm just gonna piss people off. I don't care. I don't have friends for a reason. Never thinking like it would be a full career or anything, you know?

• 39:31Alex Cooper?

  That's what I also think sometimes, like people feel like they're lucky because they can make their fake accounts. But like, God forbid, one day all of your fake account comments and trolling and you like telling people to go kill themselves or whatever. Like there are people on the internet that are so ruthless, but they don't have the balls to do it publicly and have their own name on it. If that, God forbid, you walked into work one day and all of your comments were placed on your own desk, like would you be fired or not? And I think it like, if you look inward, all of those people are not in a good place and clearly you weren't either. And you've kind of had this like redemption arc, but like when you look back, do you think you were addicted to the drama? Once you started to see the money?

• 40:10Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. I mean, for so long, like a good like 10, 12 years, I was so addicted. I was just so miserable. So like any attention was good attention. Money was just money. You know what I mean? So it just, yeah, it's, it is crazy, but I did reap the karmatic, you know, effects of it all. So it does, like you said, even the trolls, I think it, I think it's so real. I think karma is so real. And like I've reaped all of that 10 times over, I'm sure. And still due to this day, we get a sponsor and like everyone harasses them like, don't. So we lose, at this point, I'm like, don't even give us sponsorships because I just know. So it's fine. Luckily, I have my ways to make money. But yeah, you just you reap it for a long time. So.

• 40:48Alex Cooper?

  Why do you think, though, second chances are so important?

• 40:51Speaker 01

  Because I think people do like change. I think majority of humans evolve as human beings, especially when you get older. When you're find happiness, when you find love, like you mean, people do change. And I think like, that's the whole point of humanity, right? Is like, the evolution of it all, like, I think our society shows that, like, you know, from like us in like the sixties, you know, with like segregation. So you know, I think it's like just shown, like, obviously, people are like change. So I think that's important. Otherwise, you never like, never can grow and never can like, you know. Um, but yeah, I've had second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, and so I appreciate all of them. Some people don't deserve them. Some people don't want to give them to you. But I do think it's important to like, try to see people changing. Yeah, I think I really think people do and can.

• 41:32Alex Cooper?

  I agree. I think also, it's really difficult on the internet when you have a persona that I even feel it sometimes, like, I feel like sometimes I've met people and they're like, oh, my gosh, like, I thought you were gonna be such a bitch. You're gonna be this. And I'm like, oh, like, I mean, I don't know, you can be honest, like what you thought of before you met me.

• 41:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, cuz you just hear all the stuff, right? You hear all the drama. And so you're just like, wow, she's a ruthless, she's this. And you know, not to say I don't judge. Because obviously, I know, like, I know how people take things, but you hear those things are just how, I don't know, you think someone's just gonna be arrogant or whatever. Because you have all this like money and you're skinny and you're pretty. So you're like, well, you just know, you know, I think you have that assumptions. Again, at this age, I don't, I'm just like, and I was, I was surprised the energy you have is just so different than like people would think, you know what I mean?

• 42:14Alex Cooper?

  No, I appreciate you saying that because I think that's the point is like, we see people online and most of the time, we never get to meet these people in person. So like, there's a image online that people will like assume of you. And it's really fucking hard to break away from that. And so obviously, like, I know my, my, the way that I got through it was like, I know the truth and I know what happened. And I know I feel like I can go to sleep and I'm a good person and I have good people around me and like, and if I'm good with my life off the internet, I think then I did become a better version of myself on the internet. Because it's like, when all you are looking for is validation from the internet, which it seems. Like at one point that was you didn't have friends. You were really in a dark place like you're gonna just say some crazy fucking shit and you don't give a fuck.

• 42:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 42:59Alex Cooper?

  But I do think second chances, you're right, are important because like I'm so proud of the growth that I've had and I know you feel the same way about yourself of like of course we've changed and of course now like when you have things you care about everything is put in perspective.

• 43:12Speaker 01

  Oh my god, so different. Now it's like, oh, I don't want to embarrass my husband. I don't want to embarrass my daughter. You know, you're like, so it changes everything about you. That's what I knew, like I had to change all of it and it just and I, I really do feel it and I'm like, people can see it or they don't see it. I don't care because I, I could feel better, but it does feel especially right now that people have like seen it. It's not me saying I've changed it. It's, you know, it just took time, you know, I think with anything like just public feuds, anything, you know, people always, you know, there's always sides that people pick without knowing the full truth and it's just like getting through that and it doesn't really matter at the end of the day what people think, you know, about it. It's like some people are going to think I'm this person, some whatever.

• 43:44Alex Cooper?

  It's okay. Right. As long as you know who you are. Let's.

• 43:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:48Alex Cooper?

  Okay, we're gonna play a little game.

• 43:49Speaker 01

  Giant cards.

• 43:50Alex Cooper?

  Oh man, huge.

• 43:51Speaker 01

  I love them.

• 43:51Alex Cooper?

  Huge. And there's like tiny little writing. I'm like, okay. Let's play a game.

• 43:55Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 43:56Alex Cooper?

  I'm gonna give you a topic and I want to hear your opinion on it. Reusing nudes.

• 44:02Speaker 01

  Oh, uh, yeah, I do it all the time. My OF is still that. It's just old nudes from 2020 and people still new people come in, I sell them.

• 44:07Alex Cooper?

  Oh, slay.

• 44:08Speaker 01

  Or just like sending you, I mean, sending them too. But don't you can tell now. I feel like you can tell by the dates now. People say, I don't know. Did you send nudes? Were you someone who sent nudes?

• 44:16Alex Cooper?

  Oh, yeah.

• 44:16Speaker 01

  Really?

• 44:17Alex Cooper?

  Oh.

• 44:18Speaker 01

  And you've never posted nudes online?

• 44:19Alex Cooper?

  I've never posted nudes online. I just was such a nude girl. Like I remember I dated this guy that was obsessed with nudes to the point where it was like very unhealthy. And he was like literally.

• 44:29Speaker 01

  Like every day you're sending them?

• 44:30Alex Cooper?

  I would be at work, Trisha, and this man would be like, come on, like, can I get a pic? And like I was in such a bad relationship with him that like I knew that like if I didn't, like if it is another girl gonna send him a nude. So I would feel so insecure. So there I was at work with like my like pencil skirt on and I'd like mosey my way over to the bathroom.

• 44:47Speaker 01

  Oh, you took them fresh. I thought you'd have like a library.

• 44:51Alex Cooper?

  No, no, no, trust me. I, and oh my god, like I would absolutely edit them. I would like go back. I know, literally, I, I would, it's like, I would be at work on the clock getting. Being paid, I would go take it in like the um handicap bathroom, sorry.

• 45:06Alex Cooper?

  Bigger and like I needed my privacy. God forbid someone walks in in the stalls and I'm like getting that ass shot.

• 45:13Speaker 01

  Give them the stall.

• 45:15Alex Cooper?

  And so I would get out and I would go back to my desk and I would like look around and I would always had a girl behind me and whenever she would go to lunch, I would pull up my nude. I would go on pick monkey and I would start like rearranging, like make the ass fatter.

• 45:29Alex Cooper?

  And then I would like send it off to him and be like, here you go. And he'd be like, so hot, so fire. And then I would save those though. And then obviously like if I was talking to another guy that day, I'd be like, mm, here you go. I loved a good nude. I thought that I, it almost became like an art form at one point. You know, like you really get those angles. You learn how to like make it look good. Like I loved a good nude. It was fun. And then, oh my God, like I've definitely sent like some videos and like all that stuff, but I never went, I never made money off of it now.

• 45:56Speaker 01

  Never. Would it ever get out? No one ever posted on YouTube?

• 45:59Alex Cooper?

  No, because I think like I know the amount of people that I've sent it to, like I know those specific guys. And if they ever did, like, I think they know I would try to sue them. So I think they're like too scared.

• 46:08Speaker 01

  Especially now, I feel like they would put you out there because you're you.

• 46:10Alex Cooper?

  Right. But I'm like, yeah, but like try me. Let's go to court, motherfucker. But God forbid, like I ever feel like I gotta pull out. I'm gonna bring out my, I have literally an old nude. Like catalog, like album. You know, you've got that MacBook that you've got it on and you're like, ooh, which one should I use today?

• 46:29Alex Cooper?

  I should change the album name from old nudes to retirement plan.

• 46:34Speaker 01

  Kind of like everyone's doing it now, but I get you. I totally get you.

• 46:37Alex Cooper?

  Meeting your celebrity idols. Have you ever, who are your idols?

• 46:42Speaker 01

  I love meeting celebrity idols. Yeah, I think, I think like the bigger the idol, the nicer they are. I feel, I feel like when you like a D-list person, they have like, you know, maybe like Tom Sandoval or something. I don't know. I don't really know him, but I just know he's all over TikTok. Like he probably won't be nice. But I've met like Quentin Tarantino, Eminem, The Weeknd just sent me a DM and I feel like the bigger they are, the nicer they are.

• 47:01Alex Cooper?

  We, so you're talking about this on your podcast, what was the DM from him?

• 47:04Speaker 01

  Literally, I was on a podcast like two weeks of the Zach Sang show and I was like, oh, I, I pay for music and I'm like, I just bought like six of the weekend songs. And he's like, thanks for the support. Me and my team appreciate you. Like sent me a DM and I was like, wow. He cares that I spent six dollars on his music.

• 47:18Alex Cooper?

  No.

• 47:18Speaker 01

  Everything.

• 47:18Alex Cooper?

  They do because I I think I saw, who did I see? I think I saw Snoop Dogg recently saying like there were a billion

• 47:24Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 47:25Alex Cooper?

  And he made forty K from it.

• 47:26Speaker 01

  No, that's wild to me. That's why I buy the music off iTunes and I still do and they appreciate it. I mean, I was shook. I was like, oh, my God, Abel's in my DMs was crazy.

• 47:33Alex Cooper?

  Like, literally, maybe they need to start an OnlyFans. Like, fuck. He's like, babe, thanks for the six dollars. You're like, babe, literally get an OnlyFans.

• 47:40Speaker 01

  I was like, let's go. He would make bank of you on OnlyFans. Well, I mean, Idol is basically like OnlyFans. It's just him like fucking Lily Rose Depp and I loved it. That's why I became a fan this year. I saw the Idol and I was like, woo.

• 47:50Alex Cooper?

  That was crazy.

• 47:51Speaker 01

  I never get horny about anything and like literally that show made me like crazy.

• 47:55Alex Cooper?

  Okay, Taco Bell.

• 47:56Speaker 01

  Um, pass. Is this, what are we playing? Are we doing Pass or Smash? Am I rating this? Taco Bell, no.

• 48:04Alex Cooper?

  I love how also like, you're right. We've kind of changed the game for every single question.

• 48:08Speaker 01

  What was the game originally?

• 48:10Alex Cooper?

  Oh, I want to hear your ta- opinion on.

• 48:12Speaker 01

  Oh, okay, okay, got it.

• 48:13Alex Cooper?

  Taco Bell.

• 48:14Speaker 01

  Um, I'm not a, I love fast food, but I'm just a Taco Bell fan.

• 48:17Alex Cooper?

  What's your favorite fast food place?

• 48:19Speaker 01

  Um, McDonald's.

• 48:20Alex Cooper?

  McDonald's.

• 48:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, just because there's one close to us. I always get the nuggets. Right now they have adult happy meal. Oh, wait, I think we're boycotting McDonald's, maybe. I think everyone told me we're boycotting them.

• 48:27Alex Cooper?

  We why?

• 48:28Speaker 01

  Um.

• 48:29Alex Cooper?

  Oh.

• 48:29Speaker 01

  Well, I don't know. I don't get political, but I think something is happening with them. So I'll be on a strike until the strike is over, but.

• 48:36Alex Cooper?

  Where are you gonna get your nuggets?

• 48:37Speaker 01

  Oh, man, maybe Chick-fil-A. Oh, but Chick-fil-A is controversial, too.

• 48:41Alex Cooper?

  Fuck them.

• 48:41Speaker 01

  I know.

• 48:42Alex Cooper?

  They don't support the gays.

• 48:43Speaker 01

  Oh, no. A lot of my gay friends love Chick-fil-A, so I go with them. Uh, fuck, everything's controversial.

• 48:48Alex Cooper?

  That's interesting. If you go to Chick-fil-A with one of your gay friends.

• 48:51Speaker 01

  I think it's fine.

• 48:51Alex Cooper?

  Then it cancels it out.

• 48:52Speaker 01

  I think so. They love it, so Chick-fil'gay.

• 49:02Speaker 01

  I love fast food, but they're all problematic.

• 49:04Alex Cooper?

  They are. Okay, so McDonald's first, then Chick-fil-A. Do you like Wendy's?

• 49:08Speaker 01

  I love Wendy's spicy nug- I'm just a nugget person, so I only get nuggets at all these places.

• 49:12Alex Cooper?

  What do you dip it into?

• 49:13Speaker 01

  Yeah. Oh, nothing. No sauce. Yeah.

• 49:16Alex Cooper?

  What?

• 49:16Speaker 01

  I'm no sauce. Yeah. I recently heard Jenna or Tika said she has no sauce, too. I'm like, no sauce, girlies, get it.

• 49:21Alex Cooper?

  Wait.

• 49:22Speaker 01

  Never.

• 49:23Alex Cooper?

  This is.

• 49:24Speaker 01

  There's no live. Try to find a clip of me eating sauce.

• 49:27Alex Cooper?

  You.

• 49:27Speaker 01

  Actually, there's clips of me trying sauce, but I don't like it. Yeah.

• 49:30Alex Cooper?

  Wait, do you? So you don't like ranch dressing?

• 49:32Speaker 01

  No, I don't like any sauce. Like, no barbecue, no ketchup, no mustard.

• 49:35Alex Cooper?

  Your whole life?

• 49:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm just like, I like a plain. I'm very, my tastes are plain. I love like butter noodles. I love chicken tenders, like pizza. Like, that's what I like. Yeah.

• 49:43Alex Cooper?

  I have food for you to try downstairs. Now I'm like rethinking everything.

• 49:46Speaker 01

  Did you make it?

• 49:46Alex Cooper?

  Um, I'm having someone make it right now.

• 49:48Speaker 01

  Oh my boo.

• 49:49Alex Cooper?

  No, no, no, no, no.

• 49:50Speaker 01

  Content house with a chef. Like, you live here? Like, no, just to shoot here. I was like, wow.

• 49:55Alex Cooper?

  I just begged someone downstairs. I'm like, listen, there's this one pasta that I want Trisha to try. Do you think?

• 49:59Speaker 01

  Wait, what?

• 50:00Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, I want you to try it.

• 50:01Speaker 01

  What kind of pasta?

• 50:02Alex Cooper?

  You know how like, girls are like, oh my god, like, I have my like, like, my girl dinner? And it's like, when the men are away, the girls will play. And like, you make like, just dumb shit that like, men would be like, I'm not eating that shit. So like, I grew up on this like spaghetti sauce that my mom would make me, but it's like this like, Progresso, like, I don't even want to.

• 50:18Speaker 01

  Wait, Progresso?

• 50:18Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 50:20Speaker 01

  Is that like, wait, what? Oh, Progresso. It's like Prego sauce? Cause I do like, I like pasta sauce. I'm trying to figure out Progresso sauce. I love a jar sauce, if that's what you're talking about. Okay. Is that Progresso? I have Prego.

• 50:37Alex Cooper?

  I can't breathe. It's in a, it's in a jar. And I swear to god, Trisha, I want you to try it. Like, I know you like plain stuff. Like, I'm interested to see your take.

• 50:46Speaker 01

  I love pasta sauce.

• 50:46Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 50:47Speaker 01

  I love.

• 50:47Alex Cooper?

  We're gonna film it downstairs, but like, it's good to know.

• 50:50Speaker 01

  Where's that going? Guess bonus content? Where did that go?

• 50:54Alex Cooper?

  Gotta get that coin, girl.

• 50:55Speaker 01

  I love it. Oh no, save, save, save.

• 50:58Alex Cooper?

  I'm like, you're gonna save for 10 hours, right?

• 50:59Speaker 01

  I love it.

• 51:00Alex Cooper?

  We're good to go.

• 51:01Speaker 01

  I will.

• 51:02Alex Cooper?

  Okay, so no to Taco Bell.

• 51:03Speaker 01

  No Taco Bell.

• 51:04Alex Cooper?

  Okay, I'm crying. Okay, internet trolls. What is your opinion on them?

• 51:08Speaker 01

  Oh gosh, um, oh wow. I have a soft spot for them, because I was an internet troll for a minute. Now I can't stand them. I see people like yelling at the camera, being ridiculous. I'm like, oh no, this is gonna haunt you forever.

• 51:19Alex Cooper?

  You should literally on every time you see somebody doing trolling videos be like, trust me.

• 51:25Speaker 01

  Don't stop. Yeah. There's that girl, that pearl girl out there now. And I'm like, girl, let's pump the brakes. This is gonna follow you forever.

• 51:31Alex Cooper?

  Dude, wait, I feel like I know who you're talking about.

• 51:34Speaker 01

  She's like, anti, yeah, she's like kinda anti-woman, I think. I don't know. She's like a woman, but like hates women. She's like, oh, if you're, if you're divorced, you're less than, or if you have sex before marriage, like they don't want you. I don't know. She's kinda weird.

• 51:44Alex Cooper?

  Does she have like strawberry red hair?

• 51:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, mm-hmm.

• 51:47Alex Cooper?

  She's made videos about me being like Alex Cooper, and I always just stop it immediately.

• 51:51Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 51:51Alex Cooper?

  I never watch the video because I'm too scared. I don't wanna know.

• 51:55Speaker 01

  Of everyone. And I get it. It's like a shtick or something, hopefully. But I'm like, girl, this is like gonna not do well for you. Because you'll like run out of money. Like you'll spend the money. I know. Trust me. I've made like 10 million dollars trolling and I've wasted all of it. I didn't buy a house until OnlyFans, so. I'm just like, no, girl.

• 52:10Alex Cooper?

  Girl, stop.

• 52:11Speaker 01

  Stop. I know.

• 52:12Alex Cooper?

  She'll probably clip this and be like, you fucking whore, shut up. Like, oh.

• 52:16Speaker 01

  Literally. No, I know. I used to be scared of people talking about me, but I'm like, oh no. I just, I literally like I have, again, it comes from a place of I know what it's like. Like I get it. And I'm just like, oh no.

• 52:26Alex Cooper?

  Do you ever scroll on TikTok? And if you hear someone talking about you, do you watch the videos?

• 52:30Speaker 01

  Oh, no. I scroll. I scroll instantly. The last, I don't even have a, but the last person I saw talk about me, I like literally cried for days.

• 52:37Alex Cooper?

  What?

• 52:37Speaker 01

  Yeah. She told me I looked like I had electrocuted hair and I like cried for literally like a week. And I'm like, why is this affecting me so much? It was literally like a month ago and I couldn't stop crying.

• 52:45Alex Cooper?

  Wait, I'm so sorry. That's so mean.

• 52:47Speaker 01

  I had a lot of postpartum hair loss, but then when I was young, people made fun of me for having like frizzy hair. It was a whole thing. So I kinda, so it hasn't happened in so long that someone made fun of my hair. I'm used to weight. I'm used to acne. And I was like, oh my God, this one like hit. This one hit hard.

• 53:01Alex Cooper?

  That's when it's the most fucked up is if it's something from like when you were younger, that was like something you got the shit bullied out of you for and that, or that you were just insecure about for yourself.

• 53:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 53:10Alex Cooper?

  When you're an adult and someone picks on it, you're like, I'm regressing to being 12 right now and I'm sobbing.

• 53:16Speaker 01

  That's how I felt. It's like that and like eating like chicken parm. Like both of those things are like weird things that you wouldn't think like, people call me fat, people call me all these things. And I'm just like, oh, I don't care. But those, I don't know. That was like.

• 53:23Alex Cooper?

  I'm so sorry.

• 53:24Speaker 01

  Yeah. So I, but it's because I like stayed on it for a minute. I saw and I was just like, let me hear this person. to say cuz I like the person cuz I was like oh I love this person I talk nice about them all the time and I was like oh shit and then I like so I and I I like I don't like to be in like the drama of it all but I was just like damn that one hurt that one hurt like hard

• 53:41Alex Cooper?

  it's just like again stop being mean to people on the internet like why are also I just feel like it's so we're so above or should we at least some we should be commenting on women's appearance aren't we done with that

• 53:53Speaker 01

  it just didn't like in general like hair weight I'm just like that's it like that's like there should be and again I guess it's like a compliment that that's what you're going for like if that's the only thing but but it's the worst thing to hear as a woman is like your appearance you know

• 54:04Alex Cooper?

  you're right and I feel like it's expected from a man cuz it's like you're dumb but from a woman you're like

• 54:10Speaker 01

  you know it sucks it sucks cuz I'm so like pro women now so I'm very and I know I haven't always been that's what I'm saying the karma kinda comes back to me I'm like alright I guess I deserve it I guess I've talked enough about other people's appearances so you know it does come back around so I'm like okay I'll take it that's how I have to look at it I'm like it's just another karmatic

• 54:25Alex Cooper?

  you got thick skin girl

• 54:26Speaker 01

  yeah sometimes but sometimes I really do like I haven't cried in a long time and I was like oh my god why am I crying and like last night when I cried over the pasta I'm like this is very odd usually I'm not like that

• 54:34Alex Cooper?

  well at least you allow yourself to cry I feel like sometimes people hold it in too much if you're gonna cry cry and then keep eating that pasta

• 54:42Alex Cooper?

  how do you feel about reincarnation do you believe in it

• 54:46Speaker 01

  oh I don't know what do you think

• 54:48Alex Cooper?

  didn't I see something on the internet that people were convinced what is the theory

• 54:53Speaker 01

  maybe

• 54:53Alex Cooper?

  yes

• 54:54Speaker 01

  oh yeah I did I did have there I did birth the reincarnation of Queen Elizabeth last year I guess which you know what honestly makes me believe it

• 55:01Alex Cooper?

  wait why do people think that

• 55:03Speaker 01

  it was so weird it was the weirdest it was okay literally someone looked it up it was the most time I was searched it was the most searched I've ever been was in September twenty two and two a week before my daughter was like more searched than anything that's ever happened in my life any controversial thing that was the Google high point and it was so weird it was like a week before I gave birth I said I was like one centimeter dilated which is like you know normal and you're gonna give birth in like a week or two

• 55:23Alex Cooper?

  right

• 55:24Speaker 01

  but then the queen died the next day and everyone's like Trisha just gave birth and the queens and and I was still very much pregnant I just didn't have my phone with me it was very it was so bizarre like TMZ was calling my dad my mom like everything it was the weirdest

• 55:37Alex Cooper?

  Oh my god, you know why you were probably so searched is like you kind of like tapped into like you infiltrated the royal family. Like but everyone in England was like, wait, who is this bitch? I need to see like, is the queenie coming out of that V? Like what the fuck is going on?

• 55:50Speaker 01

  The day she died, I'm like trending, I have a screenshot like right underneath her, like it's so bizarre. I know, when I announced my pregnancy, everyone's like, uh-uh, King Charles, nine months left. I'm like, no. Don't even start it. Wait, that's I was, yeah, it's funny now, at the time I was actually a little traumatized, I was like, oh my god, what did I do? Like, because I didn't even start it. Like, I get if I start my own shit, and I was like, no. And I was out of drama, I was so out of drama, I didn't have my podcast, I was like not talking about anyone, I was like, oh shit.

• 56:16Alex Cooper?

  We're back.

• 56:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 56:17Alex Cooper?

  Not like that bad of drama to be a part of, because you're like, oh my god, like I just gave birth to like the new queen.

• 56:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 56:22Alex Cooper?

  But that's also gonna be such an interesting thing, like if your daughter Googles herself one day, like, not about Google search.

• 56:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, for sure, your queen, and she kind of is, she's very like royal regal, she waves to everybody, she's very that, actually. So if I do believe reincarnation, I do believe that could be, yeah, I don't know how Queen Elizabeth was, I heard maybe she's not a nice person, but maybe she'll be reincarnated as a good person. I don't know, I know nothing about the royal family, but.

• 56:43Alex Cooper?

  Okay, how do you feel about retail therapy?

• 56:46Speaker 01

  Oh my god, that's all I do all day, every day. I spend way too much money.

• 56:49Alex Cooper?

  What do you spend your most money on?

• 56:51Speaker 01

  Purses, I have so many purses, yeah, I have too many, I probably have, it's, I don't know, maybe five hundred purses, and I sell a lot, too, so I probably bought five hundred purses.

• 56:59Alex Cooper?

  Wait, but you said you never leave your house?

• 57:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, just buy it online. Like, twenty twenty, I bought like six Birkins that were like a million dollars altogether, and now I can't sell them. I wish I could, I've had so many Birkins that are ugly, and I'm like, oh, I have like a dead ostrich in my closet, and I'm like, I don't want this anymore.

• 57:15Alex Cooper?

  Wait, and you like, you barely leave your house also, so like, where do you wear them?

• 57:19Speaker 01

  Dear, you're like, I love your Prada bag, I'm like, thank you. This is my only shot to wear it.

• 57:24Alex Cooper?

  Oh my god, so like whenever you're gonna go do an appearance, you'll wear it, but other than that, it just sits in the closet?

• 57:28Speaker 01

  But my closet's beautiful, it's like sparkles and shine, it makes me really happy, like they actually just make me happy to look at them. I used to like never wear my purses out, like I just love to look at them.

• 57:35Alex Cooper?

  Look at them. What's your favorite one?

• 57:37Speaker 01

  Uh, oh, I have the Paris Hilton Birkin, like the pink one with the Sowaskis on it, it's the same retailer that got it, the Privy Porter, shout out Privy Porter, she made Paris's bag, and then she made mine, and I love it. But when you get the aftermarket crystals, they go down in value so much, so I wouldn't suggest that. I bought a fifty thousand dollar rainbow Birkin, and no one even wants, I can't even give it away for like eight thousand dollars, so. Yeah, so don't do aftermarket. But I love my pink one. I don't like the rainbow one.

• 57:59Alex Cooper?

  Okay, let's talk about sex.

• 58:16Alex Cooper?

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• 59:01Alex Cooper?

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• 1:01:07Alex Cooper?

  have kind of like lately in this interview, talked about just like your relationship to men has evolved, but to women that are like, Tricia, how the fuck do we get confident in the bedroom? Like, what personally would you say makes you feel the most confident in your sex life?

• 1:01:21Speaker 01

  Oof. You know what it is? I always say this to everyone is like, guys really don't care if they're like with you at that point where they're like undressing you, like they don't care. Do you know what I mean? I've, I don't know, guys just, they kind of get what they get. You know what I mean? They just are excited to be with you. And I've never, I've never been insecure in that way because maybe because I've like hooked and I've been with like a hot, like 500 guys. Like, I mean, maybe that made me more confident weirdly, but I've just never had any like complaints. And I used to have like uneven boobs. Uh, I mean, like back when I was like a hooker, I mean, I didn't shower for like five days and they would be fine with it. So I think guys are just kind of nasty and they'll just take what they get. So don't feel bad. If you're hygienic, I think that's a plus.

• 1:02:00Alex Cooper?

  If you put on deodorant that day, girls.

• 1:02:03Speaker 01

  They're fine. Yeah.

• 1:02:04Alex Cooper?

  You're good.

• 1:02:04Speaker 01

  Just do a little wash.

• 1:02:06Alex Cooper?

  It's such a good point. Men are like kind of disgusting. And so I feel like sometimes like we're in our own heads about like, oh my God, do I need to do this? No, you don't need to do shit.

• 1:02:14Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:02:14Alex Cooper?

  Show up.

• 1:02:15Speaker 01

  I, yeah, I've been with, and I've been with all types and I, I think like in, like I've been saying like, oh, I've been like on the streets or whatever. But I also been with like, you know, some WWE wrestlers that like prefer a big girl, you know what I mean? And they like love it and they can't get enough of it. You know what I mean? So I think there's just like types and some people love a skinny girl, but they're not going to go to bed with you if they want a skinny girl. Whoever's like in bed with you, like wants you. So I don't know. I've never had any complaints. Like I said, I've had like my boobs have been uneven. I've like, I've looked crazy so many times. Guys just don't care. And I think as long as you're not, I don't know. I've never been self-conscious about that. I don't know why.

• 1:02:46Alex Cooper?

  No, I think that's great. I think that's why I know people want to hear from you on it because I think you're right of like, we are in our own heads so much more than men are like if, if you're right, if he's in the room with you and wanting to have sex with you.

• 1:02:58Speaker 01

  Done. Yeah. He's, that's it. They're not going to be like, no, thank you. I've never had anybody like, oh no. You know what I mean? Ever.

• 1:03:05Alex Cooper?

  Exactly. Like you've got a vagina, they're gonna.

• 1:03:07Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, yeah. Guys are very easy that way. So I always feel bad when girls get like self-conscious and I'm like, I'm like, they, guys want you.

• 1:03:13Alex Cooper?

  Yeah. Like I've had girls write in being like, oh my God, like I'm insecure about my labia or with the way it looks. I'm like, don't be.

• 1:03:18Speaker 01

  Oh, right.

• 1:03:19Alex Cooper?

  Don't be.

• 1:03:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:03:20Alex Cooper?

  Men don't give a fuck.

• 1:03:21Speaker 01

  And people love all types. They love the outies, the innes, the in-betweenies. They love all of it.

• 1:03:26Alex Cooper?

  Exactly. Like who cares? Um, how old were you when you had your first orgasm?

• 1:03:30Speaker 01

  Oh, oh my God, like 32.

• 1:03:33Alex Cooper?

  I love that you say that though, because I think so many women, even if they would lie about it, like, oh, I bet a lot of women feel that same way. Like they, we, of course we didn't have orgasms at such a young age.

• 1:03:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't know how people do.

• 1:03:45Alex Cooper?

  Men don't know how to fucking please us.

• 1:03:47Speaker 01

  Guys don't care about it.

• 1:03:49Alex Cooper?

  Did you give it yourself or did you get it from a guy?

• 1:03:51Speaker 01

  Oh, the first time, the first time was with a threesome. It was like in a threesome. They had the one of those, I call them hibachis. They're not hibachi. Are they hatachi?

• 1:03:57Alex Cooper?

  Hatachi. Mr. Hatachi's.

• 1:03:59Speaker 01

  Yes. That like changed my life for real. That was like, I was in like this like throuple and they used it on me and I was like, oh my God. That was when I was like, I didn't know if I was peeing or what. I was like, everything was going everywhere. It was insane.

• 1:04:10Alex Cooper?

  Oh my god.

• 1:04:10Speaker 01

  So that was like the first time where I knew what it's supposed to feel like. And that's why I was like, holy shit. Like that was like explosive. So.

• 1:04:16Alex Cooper?

  Wait, that's so funny because Bridget and Holly, when they came on, Bridget was the one that talked about it. She was like with Hef, like obviously we weren't getting off. So we would have these Mr. Hitachi's. And she taught me about it. And now, okay, so.

• 1:04:27Speaker 01

  They're so good. Yeah. And so that was like the thing where I was like, oh, that's what, even when I did OnlyFans, like all my squirting ones are with that because it's just like, it's just so intense. Like. If you don't know how to do it or whatever, because I'm like, how does that even happen? Or you're scared to like forces you to, I mean, with your consent.

• 1:04:43Speaker 01

  But it's like, you don't even have a choice because it's so much pressure. And you're just like, wow, this is gonna happen. Yeah.

• 1:04:48Alex Cooper?

  That's so interesting.

• 1:04:49Speaker 01

  So if you have like trouble orgasming or you don't know how it's supposed to feel, like highly recommend going on like the big setting of those.

• 1:04:54Alex Cooper?

  And just get it going.

• 1:04:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:04:56Alex Cooper?

  Wait, when you say you were in a throuple, was it for just sexual or were you actually in a relationship with a couple?

• 1:05:00Speaker 01

  It kinda was just sexual, but they did come to my birthday party. I think she's done like videos about me. I think she did interviews about someone. It was like my first like throuple relation. They were. Gorge. Oh my God. She was like hot, you know, fake implants. He was like gorge six pack anesthesiologist. Like they were really gorge. And um, yeah, I think it was just like my Tinder year. I think that was 2019, but it was uh, they were, it was great. I don't know. I think I was just like so curious about everything.

• 1:05:23Alex Cooper?

  How do you even get involved in that? Like, do you like, did you meet her or him first?

• 1:05:27Speaker 01

  Him on Tinder. Yeah. And then he's like, this is my girl. They show right away that this is my girlfriend. I was like, oh, well, this could be exciting. You know what I mean? And it was, it was actually really, really fun. Yeah.

• 1:05:35Alex Cooper?

  How did, how do those things end?

• 1:05:37Speaker 01

  It was fine. Honestly, I think um, what was that one?

• 1:05:41Alex Cooper?

  What was that one?

• 1:05:41Speaker 01

  I know. I'm trying to think. I was dating a lot of people at the time. I was like dating so many people. So I think I was just like not like looking to date. I think they wanted to date, date. And I was kinda like not looking for that.

• 1:05:49Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, like three people in a relationship is tough.

• 1:05:51Speaker 01

  Oh, I don't know how they do that. Yeah. But they did that all the time with people. And I think they wanted to bring someone in like to date. And I don't know. I think for me, I was like, oh, how am I gonna introduce like my parents, like my mom, you know, I'm really close with. And not that she's like not judgmental, but I don't think she would get it. Like this is my boyfriend and girlfriend. I don't know.

• 1:06:06Alex Cooper?

  Okay, no, I get that. You're like, hi, this is my couple.

• 1:06:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:06:09Alex Cooper?

  And I'm the third.

• 1:06:10Speaker 01

  It's still bizarre. Yeah. I see on TikTok and I think more power to people, but I'm always like, this is, it's still bizarre to me.

• 1:06:16Alex Cooper?

  I get that.

• 1:06:16Speaker 01

  Maybe it'll get more normalized.

• 1:06:18Alex Cooper?

  So the Mr. Hitachi, what are, I was gonna say, what are your top three like sex toys in the bedroom that you would recommend? So one is Mr. Hitachi. What are another two?

• 1:06:26Speaker 01

  That's the first, um. Hmm, I think that's pretty much it. I've been liking plugs lately, which I normally don't love a like an anal thing, but I just think they look really pretty. And it feels like it just feels more pressurized and I've been really into like that lately.

• 1:06:39Alex Cooper?

  I agree.

• 1:06:40Speaker 01

  Um, it's great. I think like try out plugs and I think it kind of just like, I don't know, it just feels good if it's not anything else, just gives you like a little more added pressure.

• 1:06:47Alex Cooper?

  I completely agree.

• 1:06:48Speaker 01

  I've never had like a gangbang, but I'm assuming that's what it feels like, right? You're like, you're all your holes filled?

• 1:06:55Speaker 01

  I don't know. Maybe not. Maybe I don't know what a gangbang is.

• 1:06:59Alex Cooper?

  I love you, Trisha.

• 1:07:01Speaker 01

  That's what I would imagine. Not to say I want all my holes filled, by the way. I usually prefer just sex, like we do vanilla sex, but I love it. Like it's like my fave. I don't need to things fill me up, you know what I mean?

• 1:07:12Alex Cooper?

  So the plug can just be like there.

• 1:07:14Speaker 01

  It's fun. It's fun for like an added like bonus, you know what I mean? But um, I yeah, I'm, I'm kind of just vanilla. Actually, when it comes to like sex, I kind of just like love to have sex with just as is.

• 1:07:23Alex Cooper?

  I like, yeah, I like that.

• 1:07:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, but yeah.

• 1:07:25Alex Cooper?

  Do you, if you have advice for someone, like how do you approach your partner if you want to try a new thing in the bedroom?

• 1:07:31Speaker 01

  I don't know. I guess just be honest, although you know, I've had people ask me to do some weird stuff and I'm like, that's weird. So I don't know. I'm like the last person to ask about this kind of thing.

• 1:07:39Alex Cooper?

  Right. Like try to read the room.

• 1:07:40Speaker 01

  Maybe, yeah, like know your partner. Like if he asked me to do something freaky, I'd might like look at him kind of weird. I don't know.

• 1:07:45Alex Cooper?

  Right. Like I'm done. I'm breaking up with you.

• 1:07:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, I've had people like ask me to like hang upside down and like weird stuff. I'm just like, I don't know. I mean, I guess that's like a thing with like swings. I'm just not.

• 1:07:53Alex Cooper?

  Hang upside down. Right. Like how would they fuck you if you're hanging upside down?

• 1:07:56Speaker 01

  There, yeah, it's like the swing and you're like upside down and I guess they, I don't know. I know I didn't do it because I'm like, that looks so dangerous. It was like high up and.

• 1:08:03Alex Cooper?

  I just like get a headache.

• 1:08:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't like it. I don't like anything that involves like hurting blood, any of that stuff. Like people always want to like slice you open and stuff. I'm like, no, thank you.

• 1:08:11Alex Cooper?

  Have you, have you had someone ask?

• 1:08:13Speaker 01

  Yes, multiple times.

• 1:08:15Alex Cooper?

  They want to slice you open?

• 1:08:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:08:17Alex Cooper?

  Are you fucking army hammer?

• 1:08:19Speaker 01

  Yes, and not him, but someone close. Actually, when that came out, I was like, wait. And then I was like, oh no, it's someone who kind of looks like him.

• 1:08:27Alex Cooper?

  No way.

• 1:08:27Speaker 01

  Yeah. I think celebrities can be like the freakiest, especially like those kinds of celebrities are like D-list, you know, they're kind of like freaky.

• 1:08:33Alex Cooper?

  You know, Tom Sandoval's cutting them up like.

• 1:08:38Alex Cooper?

  Whoa, so you've had people literally be like they wanna, what do they do? They just wanna cut you or drink your blood?

• 1:08:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, they, that, yeah, just drink the blood and also just like slice you like on your stomach a little bit. Cause they say it's like has fat there. So you can't die, like you can't bleed out. I don't know. I've had a couple of people say it, yeah.

• 1:08:54Alex Cooper?

  And what do you say?

• 1:08:55Speaker 01

  No, absolutely not. I can't do that. I don't know.

• 1:08:58Alex Cooper?

  Do you proceed to have sex with them or do you just leave immediately?

• 1:09:00Speaker 01

  Um, leave immediately. No, leave immediately. The one that wanted me to hang upside down, I guess I stayed with. He was kinda, he kinda looked at me on Manson a little bit. He kinda had like those vibes. So I was into that for a second. I'm like, oh yeah, this is my, this is my person. But, um, yeah, I just said I like couldn't do it. Like physically couldn't do it.

• 1:09:17Alex Cooper?

  You're funny. This is hilarious. Um.

• 1:09:19Speaker 01

  It's so funny. You can talk about this cause I feel like no podcast talk about sex.

• 1:09:22Alex Cooper?

  Oh my god.

• 1:09:22Speaker 01

  Oh yeah, you're on Spotify. So it doesn't matter. You're not demonetized on YouTube. I'm like YouTube, they can't say anything.

• 1:09:27Alex Cooper?

  Oh no, I'm like, let's talk about everything.

• 1:09:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, that's great. It's so funny.

• 1:09:30Alex Cooper?

  What do you think of for advice for someone who wants to lose their anal V card? Like, give us the advice, Trisha.

• 1:09:36Speaker 01

  Just take some poppers, you know, loosen it up a little bit. Cause that's the only thing I could think of.

• 1:09:40Alex Cooper?

  Right. Did you even enjoy it?

• 1:09:42Speaker 01

  No, I mean, like I said, I love the plug recently, but I don't love, I don't love like anal.

• 1:09:47Alex Cooper?

  Penetration.

• 1:09:47Speaker 01

  Because you know what it is? I just eat so much food and I know you're not supposed to eat a lot before, like, you know, girls that do OnlyFans, you're supposed to like clean it out. Guys too, all my gay friends, like, yeah, you can't eat before. So I was like, yeah, that's the only time we have sex is like after we eat. So I was like, well, I don't want, you know, I don't want to have my butt after we eat.

• 1:10:01Alex Cooper?

  Right. Like I want my nuggets and I want my pasta.

• 1:10:04Speaker 01

  Exactly. Oh my god. Did you imagine having anal after lasagna?

• 1:10:10Speaker 01

  I don't know if I could imagine that. It's just involuntary, everything.

• 1:10:15Speaker 01

  I'm, I'm, I'm a bad like anal, I'm not an anal queen, that's for sure. But, um, you know, try it. Maybe start with some, a finger or something, you know?

• 1:10:23Alex Cooper?

  A little pinky.

• 1:10:24Speaker 01

  A little pinky. See if you like it. Some people really love it. I don't know.

• 1:10:28Alex Cooper?

  I get it. I think the, I think the pinky is a good way to start. You're right.

• 1:10:31Speaker 01

  Right?

• 1:10:32Alex Cooper?

  Um, I'm loving your advice. So the daddy gang wrote in some scenarios that they're going through right now. There's drama in their life.

• 1:10:38Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:10:39Alex Cooper?

  And you're not a part of drama right now, Trisha. You're clean, you're free. You're like, ooh, I, but now we need to read their drama and help them with their drama. Okay. So someone wrote in and said, "My brother's messages linked to my laptop and I just found out that he and my best friend have been seeing each other behind my back. I'm so traumatized from seeing these texts and pictures. There are so many messages that I'm talking about how I'll, how I'll react if I find out, but it's so hot that they're sneaking around. Lately, when she comes over, it seems like she's there for my brother and the two of them actively leave me out. How do I confront them about the situation and do I bring up the fact that I saw their nudes?"

• 1:11:20Speaker 01

  No, you're the sister. Like, what? Why do you care? Stop. That's weird. What is she gonna say? "I saw your nudes, brother? You're hooking up with a girl that's not me? How dare you?" Like,

• 1:11:33Speaker 01

  that's the weirdest question I've ever heard.

• 1:11:37Speaker 01

  That's right. If it was your brother, you're gonna be like, "Oh my God, what?" Like, it's so weird. Lannister status over there. Just like, "My brother's fucking someone else?" I don't like it. It's weird.

• 1:11:51Alex Cooper?

  I get what you're saying. Like, first of all, no, girl. You're not telling your brother, like, "I saw that dick pic." Like, that shit's big.

• 1:11:59Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. That's more on you. I would immediately stop looking at messages. You keep looking at them like a weirdo.

• 1:12:04Alex Cooper?

  I understand the side of like, your friends lying to you. Like, you would like to know, like, is she going behind your back? Maybe just address it with your friend of like, "Hey, I get you're hooking up with my brother. Can you just be honest so it's not awkward?"

• 1:12:16Speaker 01

  But maybe they're not like, serious yet. Maybe they're not like, you know, maybe they're just hooking up. Maybe they want to keep it, like, why do you have to tell everyone you're in business? Be like, "Oh yeah, we're actually having sex if that's okay with you. Not quite dating. We'll let you know when it hap-" Like, it's weird. I don't know.

• 1:12:28Alex Cooper?

  Trisha, this is where friendship gets a little complicated.

• 1:12:33Speaker 01

  I don't have friends, so I don't know.

• 1:12:36Speaker 01

  Don't listen to me on that one.

• 1:12:37Alex Cooper?

  No, no, no. I definitely, I think you're right about the brother thing. Like, don't fucking tell him, like, "I saw your nudes." Like, leave the brother out.

• 1:12:44Speaker 01

  Right, right.

• 1:12:45Alex Cooper?

  I think you could go up to your friend and be like, "Listen, I don't care what you and my brother are doing, but like, I don't want to constantly be sitting in the room and feeling like you guys are like, keeping things from each other. Let's be open with it. You guys are fucking fabulous. Let's move on."

• 1:12:56Speaker 01

  Okay. You want to know? Okay. I don't think I'd want to know. I'd be like, "It's fine. Don't tell me." Like, if you're having sex with my brother, I don't think I need to know. I think I'm good.

• 1:13:03Alex Cooper?

  But if it was your best friend?

• 1:13:05Speaker 01

  I guess I don't know that situation. So, yeah. I guess, I guess, maybe.

• 1:13:09Alex Cooper?

  No, you're right.

• 1:13:10Speaker 01

  I still don't think I want to know. I don't even want to know my brother had sex with his wife. Like, I just don't want to know any of it. I'm like, "I'm good."

• 1:13:14Alex Cooper?

  I actually kind of agree. Whenever I think about my brother having sex, I'm like, no, he doesn't.

• 1:13:18Speaker 01

  Oh, no, I don't want to know any of those details. Don't tell me.

• 1:13:21Alex Cooper?

  Yeah. So girl, just let it go. Go have sex.

• 1:13:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just let them do what they're doing. Like, I don't know.

• 1:13:26Alex Cooper?

  Yeah. And you go date.

• 1:13:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:13:27Alex Cooper?

  Make yourself busy.

• 1:13:28Speaker 01

  That might be, yeah, find something else to do.

• 1:13:30Alex Cooper?

  Maybe she needs to get laid.

• 1:13:31Speaker 01

  I think that's it. Where it's just like, if you're that concerned about your brother's sex life and if they're telling you or not, like, I don't know.

• 1:13:37Alex Cooper?

  Move on.

• 1:13:38Speaker 01

  I get what you're saying, though. I get what you're saying too, so.

• 1:13:40Alex Cooper?

  Okay, next one. I have a group of six girlfriends and we've all been close since high school. Recently, a new girl has been introduced to the group. She hasn't done anything actively wrong and nobody seems to have an issue with her. But something about this girl just fucking annoys me.

• 1:13:55Speaker 01

  Oh, my.

• 1:13:56Alex Cooper?

  One day.

• 1:13:58Speaker 01

  She's like, hate her.

• 1:13:59Alex Cooper?

  She's like, hate her.

• 1:14:00Speaker 01

  Get you out of the group.

• 1:14:01Alex Cooper?

  One day, I had five glasses of wine, too many, and decided I was gonna say something. So I messaged her from a fake Instagram account.

• 1:14:08Speaker 01

  Oh, my god.

• 1:14:08Alex Cooper?

  I said, "Stop leeching onto other people's friend groups. It's sad."

• 1:14:12Speaker 01

  Oh, my god.

• 1:14:14Alex Cooper?

  Ruthless.

• 1:14:15Speaker 01

  Yeah. That's why I don't have friends. That's so scary.

• 1:14:20Speaker 01

  Oh, my god.

• 1:14:21Alex Cooper?

  She said, "It's sad and pathetic. They obviously don't want you around and they all feel too bad to tell you the truth, so I will."

• 1:14:29Speaker 01

  Oh, my god. That girl sounds crazy. And I know, I don't use that word lightly.

• 1:14:34Alex Cooper?

  No, that's insane. She, she found out it was me by the email linked to the account and told all of our friends. Now I'm basically booted from the group. What should I do?

• 1:14:45Speaker 01

  Oh, my god. Well, good. At least she was booted. At least she got some repercussions.

• 1:14:51Alex Cooper?

  Dude, that's insane.

• 1:14:53Speaker 01

  That's crazy. This is why I don't want girlfriends. Like, that's so nuts.

• 1:14:56Alex Cooper?

  I just think, first of all, if you're gonna use a fake account, I've learned, make a new fucking email, bitch.

• 1:15:04Speaker 01

  Go to a different, go to the library, get a different IP address. Don't want to be traced.

• 1:15:09Alex Cooper?

  Literally dude, never, never. If you are stalking people on your fake, don't ever let them know it's you.

• 1:15:15Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:15:15Alex Cooper?

  Second of all, what is so, what is this girl doing that's so triggering that you felt the need to message her?

• 1:15:21Speaker 01

  From a fake account that no one likes you.

• 1:15:23Alex Cooper?

  Do you ever go on your fake account? Do you have a fake account?

• 1:15:26Speaker 01

  I don't have a fake account.

• 1:15:27Alex Cooper?

  Have you ever had?

• 1:15:27Speaker 01

  It's like a lot to like make a whole new account.

• 1:15:29Alex Cooper?

  It's a lot.

• 1:15:30Speaker 01

  No, I don't, I don't, I don't, I've never had a fake account. I've always just looked from my account, but I really just don't look period anymore. I used to look and like, like find out everyone's doing and it's honestly, life is so much better when I don't look for real.

• 1:15:40Alex Cooper?

  Trisha, I used to have one. I would say like, I would say a year and a half ago, I deactivated mine and I've felt lighter. I felt happier. I've just felt like, why am I stalking an ex? Why am I stalking, like what am I doing?

• 1:15:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:15:55Alex Cooper?

  Or even if I like saw something online, like why am I on a fake account? If I don't want people to know I'm looking at it, then just maybe I shouldn't be looking at it.

• 1:16:01Speaker 01

  That's how I feel too. That's how I feel. Like that feels weirder when you go on like incognito and stuff like that. It feels like you're doing something wrong.

• 1:16:05Alex Cooper?

  I think that the moral of the story is everybody delete your fake accounts. You don't need to have a fake account.

• 1:16:11Speaker 01

  It feels better. I know how addicting it is because I was so addicted to like Reddit, looking up everybody. I have like, oh, how many views is this person getting now? Look, I get it. But it's like so time consuming, so energy draining. And like the minute I did like, I stopped in August of this year actually. And like, I honestly like, good things have come, like just like fortune has come, income has come. Everything has come like for real. I'm like, wow. So I just didn't go back to it because like good energy was coming in. I was like, maybe there's something to this. So I was like, let me just stop putting like any sort of bad energy out there.

• 1:16:36Alex Cooper?

  There has to be something to it because I also think like, you're right. I, oh my God, I do, I think I read, the last time I read Reddit, I think now it's like around two years ago.

• 1:16:44Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 1:16:44Alex Cooper?

  That I stopped and like, I remember I was so consumed by it because you're constantly trying to be like, okay, these people think this about me. So then all of a sudden you're like in a video or an episode trying to like appease them.

• 1:16:54Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:16:54Alex Cooper?

  And when you stop giving, also when I look at it, I'm like, there's like 200 people.

• 1:16:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:16:58Alex Cooper?

  I'm like, whoa, we're really like shaking it up here. Like, why am I listening to 200 people if you have like hundreds of thousands to millions of views on something?

• 1:17:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:17:07Alex Cooper?

  Obviously there's people that like what you're doing. So keep doing what you're doing and don't give them like energy.

• 1:17:12Speaker 01

  It feels so much better. And honestly, like I really feel like there's no, I mean, maybe because I just don't see it, but I'm like, oh, I feel like. My reddits did get taken down like the no one can start a new reddits on me it's like really weird

• 1:17:21Alex Cooper?

  Really?

• 1:17:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, we did this like documentary on it. We like called Reddit all this stuff like that and like there's no more reddits. Mine are like forty thousand people. And now there's like no more and it's wonderful. So shout out Reddit. I don't know what they did, but anyone who tries to make a new one on me, they take down right away. So.

• 1:17:32Alex Cooper?

  That's amazing.

• 1:17:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, there's no, there's no trish piss snark credit. So they were like crazy. Like I was during my pregnancy, they were like harassing like my doctors and they were like my babies like hospital and like they were just like, they were being nuts. They were putting my baby's like image out there. Like photoshopping weird things with her. So I think they had to take it down because it was like actually disgusting. Yeah. So I think that like we did this whole thing about it this year because I was like, okay, what's gonna and then now that it's down, it's just like, it's great. And I don't, so I don't, but I don't see hate anymore. So I don't know.

• 1:17:59Alex Cooper?

  Dude, I swear to God, the only place that is there's like main hate is on Reddit. And if you get that rid of your life, you're like.

• 1:18:06Speaker 01

  I know I have no hate anymore. It's wonderful. I was like, no one hates me.

• 1:18:08Alex Cooper?

  No one hates me.

• 1:18:10Speaker 01

  That's how I feel in my head and I still feel that way.

• 1:18:13Alex Cooper?

  Live that way, girl. Let it live that way.

• 1:18:15Speaker 01

  It's like perpetuated itself. Like I feel like it manifested itself. Like I feel like so many people like me now and I'm like, oh, okay. Maybe because I stopped looking at hate. Done. Now more people like me. So yeah.

• 1:18:23Alex Cooper?

  Let's do one not friendship.

• 1:18:24Speaker 01

  Okay. Cause all these friendship ones, I'm like, I don't know.

• 1:18:26Alex Cooper?

  How about this? My boyfriend and I have been go having ongoing conversations about getting engaged and planning to do that next year. But lately, something has been really weighing on my conscience. My question is, do I tell him that I gave his best friend the gluck gluck nine thousand?

• 1:18:45Alex Cooper?

  The gluck gluck nine thousand blowjob on the trip that the two of us met before, obviously we had feelings for each other. We see this friend quite often and I'm worried that my boyfriend will feel uncomfortable if he knows that I sucked his friend's dick.

• 1:18:57Speaker 01

  Oh, my God.

• 1:18:58Alex Cooper?

  Should I come clean or is this something that you take to the grave?

• 1:19:01Speaker 01

  Oh, my wait. Did you trademark gluck gluck?

• 1:19:03Alex Cooper?

  I did.

• 1:19:03Speaker 01

  I love that. So like when people say it, you like get money? I love that. That's so smart. I remember that was such a big thing. Like I really do. I just remember like, wow, it was crazy.

• 1:19:11Alex Cooper?

  It's great. It's a great thing.

• 1:19:12Speaker 01

  Oh, my God. So smart. You trademarked it.

• 1:19:13Alex Cooper?

  The double hand twist. Yes. Gluck gluck nine thousand.

• 1:19:16Speaker 01

  The sex toys. That's that. Cause it sounds like a machine anyways.

• 1:19:19Alex Cooper?

  It kind of does. Okay. Good to know.

• 1:19:22Speaker 01

  Where it feels like you're like anyways, um, I don't know. That's.

• 1:19:25Alex Cooper?

  That's tough.

• 1:19:26Speaker 01

  I feel like you need to tell them. Otherwise. Like fraud or something.

• 1:19:28Alex Cooper?

  I agree and God forbid like one night like something happens like if you're married and he finds out you never told him that it could like literally end a marriage.

• 1:19:37Alex Cooper?

  Just tell him. It was also you guys didn't have feelings for each other at the time.

• 1:19:41Speaker 01

  Right, yeah. About how he reacts to like if he's upset about it then like maybe that's not the one for you. And he's like, okay, it was before we met, whatever.

• 1:19:49Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you a jealous person?

• 1:19:51Speaker 01

  I was, I used to be so jealous, oh my god, I was so jealous, like at the beginning of a relationship, I was so jealous, all of a sudden I had to have his passwords, go through his DMs every day, like. I was super jealous, but now not at all, like I don't.

• 1:20:00Alex Cooper?

  Now you're fine, now you're fine.

• 1:20:01Speaker 01

  I think so, but he's so good, like he gives me no reason to be jealous, like even if like girls like, you know, girls that like me want a picture with him like in public, he just doesn't like no, because he just like doesn't want that out there. I'm fine with it, I'm like literally whatever, but he's very that, so he never gives me a reason to be jealous, but.

• 1:20:14Alex Cooper?

  That's the type of man you need in your life.

• 1:20:15Speaker 01

  For sure, because I am a jealous, I was, I was always very jealous and everyone, yeah.

• 1:20:19Alex Cooper?

  I think I used to be jealous, but because it was coming from a place of insecurity of like, I had gotten cheated on before, so then I'm like, oh my god, like you must be doing it too. And so like, when you're just not in like healthy relationships, the toxicity, you can't help but be kind of paranoid, which turns into jealousy, where you're like. Oh my god, like I don't want you out and I don't want you doing this, and then you're just like the worst version of yourself.

• 1:20:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's, I think that's like the worst like jealousy, and we're together twenty-four seven, so I think that helps too, I'm just like, we're never apart, so. Yeah, we're like codependent in that, or I'm codependent that way, so I don't know, but I never, of course now I'm like never jealous, and he's like definitely not jealous, like I'll say like, oh my god, the weekend's so hot or whatever. He's like never gets jealous. Yeah, yeah, yeah, literally, I was like, ah, he's the first one I texted when I got a DM from him, I'm like, the whole weekend just DM me.

• 1:21:01Alex Cooper?

  He's like, yes, babe.

• 1:21:02Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, he's like, what are you gonna text back? Like, he was so excited.

• 1:21:06Alex Cooper?

  If the weekend wanted to have a threesome with you guys, would you do it?

• 1:21:09Speaker 01

  Oh, I would, I don't think my husband would, that would be like the dream come true.

• 1:21:13Alex Cooper?

  I think he's gotta do it and just like suck it up, okay?

• 1:21:20Speaker 01

  I probably wouldn't cuz I I I love it. I love my husband so much but cuz threesomes do get sticky like I've yeah anyone who wants a threesome and anytime I've had a threesome I feel like it just like ends in disaster.

• 1:21:31Alex Cooper?

  It does, right?

• 1:21:31Speaker 01

  Unless I don't know. I feel like with my husband of all people like I know I couldn't with another girl. I'd be so fucking jealous but I think with a guy I don't think he would. I don't know. I don't know. Even with a guy I'd feel like kinda weird.

• 1:21:41Alex Cooper?

  I don't think I would with Matt either. I'm like it's just too.

• 1:21:44Speaker 01

  With another girl?

• 1:21:44Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't think so.

• 1:21:46Alex Cooper?

  It's too much.

• 1:21:47Speaker 01

  See especially if they have sex with a girl. Like sometimes they don't have sex with the other person but I I would I'd be livid.

• 1:21:53Alex Cooper?

  I would be literally in the bed like this.

• 1:21:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, how people.

• 1:21:57Alex Cooper?

  Pissed.

• 1:21:57Speaker 01

  Oh, the throuple I was in she like loved watching it. They got off. I was like this is and I think that's amazing. Like I like being the third but like I don't know.

• 1:22:03Alex Cooper?

  Being the main that's bringing in the third?

• 1:22:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:22:06Alex Cooper?

  You gotta be a strong bitch.

• 1:22:07Speaker 01

  No, I don't know how people do it. I think that's a different person. Yeah. It's a different definitely a different breed which I'm like more power to you but I'm just like.

• 1:22:14Alex Cooper?

  I completely agree.

• 1:22:15Speaker 01

  It's crazy.

• 1:22:16Alex Cooper?

  Okay, I have two more questions for you.

• 1:22:19Speaker 01

  I like these.

• 1:22:19Alex Cooper?

  What is the biggest misconception people have about you? We're done with the questions.

• 1:22:23Speaker 01

  Oh, okay.

• 1:22:23Alex Cooper?

  No, yeah.

• 1:22:24Speaker 01

  I like talking about other people's drama. I was like.

• 1:22:26Alex Cooper?

  You're like, put me in.

• 1:22:27Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:22:27Alex Cooper?

  Um, yeah. What is the biggest misconception you think people have about you?

• 1:22:31Speaker 01

  I think you know what it is. I think it's just that I've had like bad intentions. I think people think I was like a I'm a bad person which I think is like the worst part because through it all of it like I've never really had bad intentions to like hurt anyone ever and I think that's like the worst part of it cuz I'm like truly at like my core. I've never like hated anybody like anything. It's really comes from a place of either like wanting attention, being miserable, or being just like completely ignorant.

• 1:22:53Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:53Speaker 01

  So I like hate that people have like this, oh, she's a horrible person. I see that all the time and I get why people say it. But it's just like, oh, that sucks cuz it's like I've never I've truly never been. But I know I like made that bed so like you know it is what it is. So I think that's the worst is like I never like had bad intentions. No, there was never malice behind it. I never wanted to like ruin someone's life.

• 1:23:12Alex Cooper?

  Totally. I also think just even from this interview, I hope it gives people more clarity too because I feel like I have seen so much of you online, but I think this interview like we really kinda went from start to finish and it shows your growth of like where you came from like the decisions you made, like the headspace you were in and like. Of course, I'm not saying it was like right, but it's like it you people grow and people change and the fact that you're even able to also like take accountability and I also love how you're like, but I also get it and like I'm not asking like I think that's also a really mature way to look at it. Like there are just some people that will never look at you or me and like change their opinion if they hate us. That's okay.

• 1:23:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:23:49Alex Cooper?

  But you clearly know like you're a good person and you did all of that in a place of whether it was like you said, like jealousy or insecurity or just being in a bad place like

• 1:23:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:23:56Alex Cooper?

  That happens. And I think it's obviously we have a social footprint that some people don't have that, but everyone said dumb shit in their life. That can be hurtful or taken the wrong way. It doesn't always mean it's coming. Yes. From like a bad intentioned place where you're trying to like actually hurt someone.

• 1:24:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, I was never that and I wasn't even diagnosed with borderline until I was thirty, thirty-one or something. So I was like, I had undiagnosed like mental illness for like a really long time too. And again, like that doesn't like excuse it, but they're like explains more because I was like, wow, I really can't control myself. And then I was like, oh, this is like why? And now I can like work on like, now I know how to like control myself and breathe in all that stuff.

• 1:24:29Alex Cooper?

  Do you feel better now when you're going into like doing your podcast? Do you feel like you now have a better handle on like what you're going to say and what you're not going to say as if maybe in the other days you'd be like, I'm just going to spew all this shit and whatever.

• 1:24:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, I definitely will just like take into consideration people feelings and that like people will see it and people do like get hurt by it. You know what I mean? I know like Charlie and Amelia just did Jay Shaddie's podcast. She's like, yeah, people were like really mean to me, like really affected me and I was like spiraling and I was like, but you know, hopefully they changed. They have a baby now. I'm like, oh my God, what are you talking about me? Cause I was like, and it was like, I was so like, I was so aggressive for no reason. And so like just you don't think like people will see it and stuff. So now I just really come out of place where I'm just like, I really try to again, find the silver lining, try to find like the optimistiveness and everything, you know, it's of course fun to like gossip and stuff, but I always feel like again, if it's something like not nice or someone could hear that would make them feel bad. I'm like, it's better just to like, you know, gossip with your husband or something like that.

• 1:25:19Alex Cooper?

  Say, literally just do it not online.

• 1:25:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:25:22Alex Cooper?

  Every human being gossips. Everyone wants, is drama is interesting to us as humans.

• 1:25:26Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:25:27Alex Cooper?

  Just don't put it on the internet.

• 1:25:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, especially if it's like not nice. If you're like being mean and that's like, I never even privately, I never even like make fun of someone's looks. That to me is always like weird. I mean, there's so many other things to say about people out there and I'm like, it's just weird when people like attack their looks. I don't know.

• 1:25:38Alex Cooper?

  That's just like the lowest. Form of like someone coming at someone who's like you're such like that's just such a weak low blow. And then you obviously have to be like, well, what's wrong with that person that they're going at someone's looks?

• 1:25:49Speaker 01

  No, for sure. If like my husband started like making fun of like a girl, I'd be like, you're fucking weird. And like, I feel that way too. I'm like, it's just a weird thing. So it's like, there's so many other things to like gossip and make fun of and make light of or whatever, but.

• 1:26:01Alex Cooper?

  For those of who may not know, Trisha attempted to win a Guinness World Record for her speed reading skills. I love how the two of us, like I am, I have to actively try to talk slower.

• 1:26:18Alex Cooper?

  And I'm like, slow down.

• 1:26:19Speaker 01

  I didn't think that about you. Like, I did not think of you as like this, like, really fast talker.

• 1:26:25Alex Cooper?

  When I'm having fun with someone, which I am right now, like, I feel like we're actually having girl talk. We're like, some interviews, I'm like, more doing the interviewing. I don't want to be a part of the conversation. I want it to be about them. Our vibe is just like.

• 1:26:35Speaker 01

  Oh, I love like asking people. Yeah. I hate when it's like all about me. Like, I love to be like, what about you? Because I need to know where you're coming from.

• 1:26:45Alex Cooper?

  No, I feel that. And so, but then because you talk fast, like my best friend Lauren talks so fast. That I feel the same way with you where I'm like, then I'm just gonna match your energy. And then when I do talk fast, people are like.

• 1:26:57Speaker 01

  I feel like people will like it. Like, I know I get comments on my podcast, like, oh, my ADHD, like, thanks to you, because they just like, wanna keep, like, keep going at that.

• 1:27:03Alex Cooper?

  That's actually such a good point. Like, people can just be like, shut the fuck up, get to the point. We're getting there. We're moving fast. Okay, before you go. Can you just speed read this little message to the daddy gang? You can read through it. It's literally a bunch of like nonsense. It's just like, Happy New Year.

• 1:27:17Speaker 01

  Oh, okay. I love it.

• 1:27:23Speaker 01

  Oh, my gosh. Okay. Luckily, there's no, like, too big words. Sometimes I get, like, the, the Guinness World Record is Hamlet's soliloquy. So it was like, to be or not to be that is the question, was it nobler than mine? It was like this whole, like, really long thing. And I was like, I don't even know the words. They were so hard. All right, here we go. Daddy gang, thank you so much for having me. This has been so much fun. It's 2024. Let's make it the best year ever. It's the year to stop giving a fuck about whatever. And to own our own confidence. It's the year to try new things, the bedroom, and finally have that well deserved organ. It's the year of the, it's the year of giving the Glock, Glock, nine thousand, only trademarked. If you are also receiving some bum ass head and return, take risks, put yourself out there. Don't get too involved with the drama. It's never that deep. Give people second chances. Apologize when you're wrong. Puff that pussy, shake that ass. Follow me where no accounts, YouTube, TikTok, Instagram. Don't be stingy. Spread my only fans. You're feeling it. Check my podcast, just, just. I love you guys. Thank you for taking the time to get to know me. I hope this isn't the last time we chat. XOXO. Tish Pena. I saw it so fast.

• 1:28:03Alex Cooper?

  Trisha.

• 1:28:04Speaker 01

  I didn't know it was like my outro. I love that. I would have put more oomph into it. This is so cute.

• 1:28:08Alex Cooper?

  Trisha, that was iconic. Thank you so much for coming on Call Her Daddy. This was truly so fun.

• 1:28:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, I had a great time. Thank you.

• 1:28:13Alex Cooper?

  Thank you. Dude.

• 1:28:30Alex Cooper?

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