Brian Cole BUSTED, Halle Berry NUKES Newsom + Candace REJECTS TPUSA Challenge | PBD Podcast | Ep. 695

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick break down January 6th pipe bomb suspect Brian Cole’s arrest, Halle Berry’s explosive comments blasting Gavin Newsom, and Candace Owens’ public response after being challenged by Turning Point USA. ------ 🧢 LIMITED EDITION CHRISTMAS FLANNEL SNAPBACK: https://bit.ly/48SQWqh Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kSVkso⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kJ71lc ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4kJ71lc 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 1:08Speaker 02

  Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.

• 1:17Patrick Bet-David?

  You are a one of one?

• 1:18Speaker 02

  My son's right there.

• 1:19Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 1:24Patrick Bet-David?

  La la.

• 1:25Speaker 04

  But you drop something?

• 1:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you sing it already or no? La la la la la la la la la la la la la. Mer hayas sanum. How we're on? Oh, we're on. Sorry, Armenian song.

• 1:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Wake up, everybody!

• 1:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, no, now I'm singing.

• 1:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom went there already. I love it. That's not funny, Tom. Okay, because this was Armenian. I don't know what that has to do with Armenians, okay? Focus on Tom's face turning red real quick, please. La vash!

• 1:56Tom Ellsworth?

  Hey, I'd like to apologize for the Armenian. Look at the hue.

• 2:00Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, here we go. Guys, this is, this is what we deal with every day. But if you think this is with the camera on, imagine how bad it is with the camera off. We have like six HR people sitting here right now. Every single time we do these podcasts.

• 2:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Apparently, they do nothing now, they just sit.

• 2:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Okay, so Trump promises largest tax refund season ever for Americans coming in.

• 2:22Patrick Bet-David?

  2026, Trump warns US may launch land operations inside Venezuela very soon. Says regime sent killers to America. We got a bunch of clips with the pipe bomber. Vinny's got a video he wants to show me that I haven't seen yet. Apparently this white man, according to Jake Tapper.

• 2:39Speaker 04

  Yup.

• 2:40Patrick Bet-David?

  That I gotta see this, what this white man looks like.

• 2:42Speaker 04

  It's, you have to emphasize the hu, he's white.

• 2:45Patrick Bet-David?

  He's white.

• 2:45Speaker 04

  White, white supremacist.

• 2:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Scott Besant blasts New York Times at their event. Halle Berry, Halle Berry. Wasn't Newsom also speaking at the same event?

• 2:57Speaker 04

  Newsom was there, Mr. Beast was there.

• 2:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Halle Berry goes after Newsom, her governor, and says, but at least, he's not gonna be governor for too long. You know, and he will definitely not be a president with the way he's going with women and menopause. And you gotta see this clip, it's fascinating. She had a good point about a good program, too. Yeah. Paranoid Maduro sleeps in different beds, changes phones, report. Wouldn't you? I mean, are they talking like he's sleeping around or are they saying that he's like for safety?

• 3:25Speaker 04

  Yeah, or he's just.

• 3:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Not, not like he's going. It could be both.

• 3:28Speaker 04

  It could be both, you never know.

• 3:29Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, I mean, listen, when you hear stories like. He's a playboy on the run. Besant says Trump administration will be able to replace tariff even if it loses Supreme Court decision. I want to hear about that. President Trump issues new warning on looming Supreme Court decision. If they keep talking about it, that means they're not for sure certain that this is gonna get done. That's scary, guys. They just got one decision yesterday, it could be today, it could be tomorrow, it could be Tuesday. Americans want US to lead globally but doubt military can win major wars overseas, survey finds. Texas Muslim city rebrands with unthreatening new name.

• 4:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Steve Hilton, California governor candidate, launches tip line to expose fraud over a billion dollars Minnesota debacle. I will see, I mean, wait till you create that tip line for California, what that's gonna look like. We called it. Yeah. Police arrest suspect in DC pipe bomb, we'll talk about that. Shapiro, Josh Shapiro blasts Kamala Harris. Book claims about her utter bullshit in fiery interview response. I mean, hold it together, Josh. You may run for office one day.

• 4:38Speaker 04

  Is he running against her next time?

• 4:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Barack Obama suggests military resistance pushing back on polarization of the Justice Department. Here we go again. Ben Stiller is back, folks, and he says, "Stop calling them garbage." He was so upset on what happened, and we'll definitely talk about that. GOP Representative Luna files discharge petition to force a vote to ban members of Congress from stock trading. Who's the other lady, the one that you like a lot, who was on Pierce Morgan and about Muslims?

• 5:09Speaker 04

  Valentina Gomez?

• 5:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, she was.

• 5:11Speaker 04

  Oh, my God, she was on fire.

• 5:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Her filter was...

• 5:15Speaker 04

  She doesn't give a damn.

• 5:17Patrick Bet-David?

  She's your type, though. That's your type.

• 5:19Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 5:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you want me to hook you up?

• 5:21Speaker 04

  But wait, you don't realize, if you're with a girl like that, your security has to have their security to watch them.

• 5:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, if anybody messed with you, you would say, "Hey, I'm gonna tell you you're messing with me."

• 5:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, she's gonna go nuts.

• 5:33Patrick Bet-David?

  You go to... Maldani effect: Wealthy New Yorkers show renewed interest in Miami's billionaire beach.

• 5:38Speaker 04

  Renewed interest?

• 5:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, renewed interest. How Palantir shifted course to play key role in ICE deportation. And then home prices fall in almost a quarter of U.S. cities in 2026. And worrying new forecast, Daily Mail report will show that to you. Florida City heating up with global demand. And then Turning Point breaks silence on Candace Owens's wild Charlie Kirk assassination claims. Daily Mail, CNN bets on wager, platform Calci striking exclusive partnership to inject odds-making into coverage. And then we got a couple of stories in the middle of the night that broke.

• 6:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Nick Fuentes had some things to say about Candace. Is that the one, yeah, calls that Candace Owens' Times of India? All right, and then literally run out of bounds, down 15. Ilhan Omar calls Trump-supported "might attack Somalis." So Somalis should be worried about MAGA, apparently. And brushes off the fraud scandal. What happened with the billion dollars, not a big deal. It's not a big deal.

• 6:40Speaker 04

  It's only a billion.

• 6:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it's just a billion dollars. And then what we know about the Brian Cole DOJ releases photo of alleged D.C. pipe bomb. And we got a couple of other stories here that we'll get into. I didn't cover what happened on Ritz on Wednesday, so I will today. And aside from that, we have to also talk about what happened when Eddie, the guy who called us about trying to put a podcast together with Sam Shimon. Yeah. And then this guy named Uthman jumps on the call and then we see a video. And we call Eddie, we're like, what was this? So we have to address that as well. We have to talk about that. That manipulation is what I told Eddie is I don't like to deal with. We have to address it because there was a clip saying that we said something. We'll show the clip as well so you guys can. Can you send that clip to Rob so Rob can get that as well?

• 7:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Fake news, Middle East version. Yeah, we, uh, audio is horrible and the music is so loud. Whoever edited that maybe did it on purpose. Anyways, guys, let me tell you what we're doing here today. It's a special day today. Here's why. Yesterday, we gave away almost 500 trees. Christmas trees. I was outside till gotten, we started at 3 o'clock till about 8, 9 o'clock. We're giving away trees. Rob, you can play this clip here. It was awesome. We even had a Santa Claus. We were trying to figure out whether he was drinking a little bit too much or what he was up to. He was a bad Santa. And a charming elf. But it was a great, great experience. People coming up, taking pictures, talking. Our kids were there. Families showed up. We were having great conversations with the folks that came out. It was the most trees we've given, uh, now that we're doing this every year. It's been an incredible tradition.

• 8:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Next year's gonna be even sicker and crazy. And I was there with one of my helpers on, the guy on the left kinda looks like Vinnie.

• 8:14Speaker 04

  You know what somebody said to me?

• 8:15Patrick Bet-David?

  What?

• 8:15Speaker 04

  Some guy hugs me and goes, "Man, I didn't know that you were that short." And I was like, "That wasn't a good moment." Cause I'm not wearing any, I'm, cause you realize I'm wearing elf shoes, so they're just like... Yeah, he did.

• 8:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you, did you smack him up?

• 8:27Speaker 04

  Yeah, I was like, you know.

• 8:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, but let me tell you. You can't hit the mayor of manners. As bad as that is, as bad as that is, let me tell you what Kamala said about Christmas. Rob, if you wanna play this. She loves it?

• 8:38Speaker 04

  She has to be pro-Christmas.

• 8:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Here's what she said about Christmas, if you wanna go back a little bit. I just want you to see this, folks. I don't know about you. For me, Christmas, the best time of the year. Okay? Even 10% of me still wants to believe that Santa Claus is real, even though I'm 47 years old. There's nothing like it. So whenever I hear politicians get up and talk like this about Christmas, it does something to me. Tell me how you feel about this. Go ahead, Rob.

• 9:05Speaker 06

  And when we all sing happy tunes and sing Merry Christmas and wish each other Merry Christmas, these children are not gonna have a Merry Christmas. How dare we speak Merry Christmas?

• 9:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh no.

• 9:18Speaker 06

  How dare we?

• 9:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh my god. She's so angry. Do you have the other clip I gave you, Rob? What the hell is she talking about? The other one that I gave you. She's probably the border. No, listen, there's another one that I like how, how the president responds to this about Christmas because what do you mean how dare we say Merry Christmas? By the way, how many guys go in the comments section and just say Merry Christmas? Merry Christmas. Right? Go say Merry Christmas and, and talking about you can't say Merry Christmas. What's wrong with you to say something like that? But I like how the president responded to it. Here's how he responded to it when she said, how dare we say Merry Christmas? Go ahead, Rob.

• 9:48Speaker 06

  How dare we speak Merry Christmas?

• 9:50Patrick Bet-David?

  The music.

• 9:51Speaker 06

  How dare we?

• 9:51Patrick Bet-David?

  So serious.

• 9:52Speaker 07

  Well, guess what? We're saying Merry Christmas again.

• 9:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Christmas. It's almost as good as the other video that went viral. It's the best, man, listen. When she's like, I'm at the border. So. Don't come. So here's what we're doing. Stop, stop, stop, stop. Don't do that. What I'm, why are you doing that at this time? We're talking Christmas, you're telling a joke like that. That's inappropriate. It's not a joke, that's just what, there was an actual video that he did. I understand, what does that have to do with this right now? He said, don't come across the border. And then he said what? I don't know what he said, that's, that's the. You think this is the right time to put something like this? I didn't, he said it, not me. I understand that, what does that have to do? We're talking about Christmas right now, guy. Okay, go ahead. You're so funny, like, these are two complete separate conversations. Okay. You are, this guy is so funny, Adam. This is why sometimes with Adam, we gotta zip him to see the comments that he makes at the wrong time. We're trying our best. You are so funny, Adam. Anyways, let me get back to Christmas, folks, that we're talking about here. So here's what we're doing.

• 10:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Every year at this time, intentionally, we do this. Intentionally, because we're proud to say Merry Christmas. We wanna say it forever, okay? There's something special about what happens during Christmas. Families, the values, the principles, the stories, the moments that we have together. It's a very, very special moment that we have together. For us, I look forward to what we do together. So, this year for Merry Christmas. The hat we announced last year sold 3,000 like this within a couple of days. This year, we're doing a limited edition one for today, Rob. If you wanna show this up there, this is the limited edition Merry Christmas hat. Numbered out of 250. On the side, it says, "Future looks bright." These will go in no time, by the way.

• 11:27Patrick Bet-David?

  If you're somebody that's proud to say Merry Christmas comfortably, place an order, get this for somebody that's also proud to say Merry Christmas. This could make for a very, very good Christmas gift. And anybody that places an order, I believe this is for the first 100, if I'm not mistaken, Rob. Anybody that places an order, gets a mug that says "Future Looks Bright" and "Merry Christmas." And on this side, you get an ornament as well that gets, that says Merry Christmas. "The Future Looks Bright Edition, Sent Your Way." So go to VTmerch.com, place an order, Merry Christmas hat, coming your way. All right, having said that, let's get right into it. Rob, what was our first story? Our first story that we have that the audience wants to talk about?

• 12:10Patrick Bet-David?

  You want to go to the pipe bomber? What do you want to go to? Pipe bomber would be good. All right, so let's go to the pipe bomber. Rob, what page is that story on?

• 12:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Tell me the story we're on, on the pipe bomber one. That is page 10. Page 10, okay, here we go. Page 10, "Police Arrest Suspect in DC." Pipe bomb case after five-year investigation that they've been talking about. So remember when this happened, the timing of it, right? So people have forgotten about it. You know, some haven't forgotten about it, some have, some have kind of moved on because we've had so many different stories that we have going on here. A suspect who allegedly planted pipe bomb blocks from US Capitol on January 5th, 2021 is now federally, federal custody after a nearly five-year investigation. Law enforcement sources told Fox News Digital on Thursday,

• 13:03Patrick Bet-David?

  "Video footage released by the FBI showed an unidentified person placing the pipe bombs near two headquarters more than 16 hours before law enforcement found them." The suspect was seen wearing a gray hoodie, Nike Air Max SpeedTurf sneakers, a mask, glasses and gloves, but the person's identity had long been unknown. And the initial investigation had shown...

• 13:28Patrick Bet-David?

  In under two months, by the end of February 2020, a possible result of credible leads drying up at the time, according to a congressional report, authorities discovered the two-pipe bombs near the Republican and Democrat National Committee headquarters around the same time that thousands of protesters a few blocks away began to dissent on the Capitol over 2020 elections. The bombs were described as visible and could have exploded at any time, according to the FBI. The suspect arrest comes after a renewed push by the FBI to solve the case, including the release of new video footage and a $500,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of the person responsible. Go ahead, Rob.

• 14:06Speaker 00

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• 15:07Speaker 08

  This was the work of multiple agencies working together. This morning's operation was carried out safely and successfully. We know that there is, there are so many issues when you're issuing search warrants. Dangerous things can happen, and this was carried out safely and securely, thanks to all of the people standing around me. They have worked tirelessly on this. Today's arrest happened because the Trump administration has made this case a priority. The total lack of movement on this case in our nation's Capitol undermined the public trust of our enforcement agencies. This cold case languished for four years until Director Patel and Deputy Director Bongino came to the FBI.

• 15:53Speaker 08

  The FBI, along with US Attorney Pirro and all of our prosecutors, have worked tirelessly for months, sifting through evidence that had been sitting at the FBI with the Biden administration for four long years. Let me be clear, there was no new tip, there was no new witness.

• 16:12Patrick Bet-David?

  So they've known this entire time?

• 16:13Speaker 04

  Of course they did.

• 16:15Patrick Bet-David?

  And they didn't want to report it?

• 16:16Speaker 04

  Of course not.

• 16:17Patrick Bet-David?

  So what clip do you want to show me?

• 16:18Speaker 04

  Okay, so guys, we talked about this yesterday, Pat, with our friend that was here yesterday. Guys, the entire movement of why I think America started waking up is the moment that Jim Acosta was talking crap to the president in 2016, and he said, "I'm not going to give you any questions, you're fake news." And that moment, you'd think CNN would realize, after all the firing, Pat, after losing all the money, Jake Tapper, another guy who acted like he didn't know about Biden's mental decline, writes the book blaming everybody. You can't make this up, I had to check this five times to make sure it wasn't AI. Look at him describing the guy, Brian Cole Jr., as what? Go ahead, Rob, this is a joke.

• 17:00Speaker 09

  Welcome to the lead, I'm Jake Tapper.

• 17:01Patrick Bet-David?

  This is when?

• 17:01Speaker 09

  After nearly five years of investigation, the FBI finally announced that they had arrested a suspect. A suspect accused of planting pipe bombs near the Republican and Democratic National Committee headquarters the night before the January 6th, 2021 Capitol attack. Brian Cole Jr., a 30-year-old white man from the D.C. suburbs, is charged with transporting an explosive device in interstate commerce and with malicious destruction by means of explosions.

• 17:29Speaker 04

  Stop, white guy!

• 17:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Go back again, Rob, go back again, like when he says that, go back a little bit, yeah, five seconds right there, go ahead.

• 17:35Speaker 09

  ...attack. Brian Cole Jr., a 30-year-old white man from the D.C. suburbs, is charged with transporting an explosive device in interstate commerce and with malicious destruction by means of explosions. CNN observed local and federal law enforcement outside his home.

• 17:52Speaker 04

  Now, let me just give you a little backstory about this. And again, they're saying it is who he is. I don't know how tall this guy is, the Brian Cole, but the videos, Pat, if you see it, it's a 5'7", that's why. It looked kinda weird, but I don't know how tall this guy is, but we're gonna find out. But his dad owned statewide bonding, Inc., uh, Virginia-based immigration bail bond company. Think about this, the family built business, they were built on freeing illegal immigrants from ICE custody. And that same business sued the prior administration's DHS in 2019 over discrimination. Okay, and think about this, this makes sense, if this is him, why they held it for, for four years? He's a young black kid, guy, who was anti-Trump, alright?

• 18:35Speaker 04

  He sued Trump, he sued ICE, he sued the DHS, he pushed radical, uh, justice causes and worked at the, at the family bond place. Um, and think about it, they didn't lose him, Tom. They had receipts, they had his license plate number, uh, they had phone data, they had the footage. They knew exactly who he was, they could have exposed him, but the narrative was, let's put something to distract all law enforcement. Cause Pat, because of this, all law enforcement was diverted from January 6th, and they were worrying about this guy. They were worrying about this white supremacist, white guy from the suburbs, as Jake Tapper says it, and it was all on purpose, okay? And I genuinely, this is my opinion, Christopher Wray, who was in charge of the FBI, Tommy, needs to be investigated, just like Jim Comey.

• 19:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Agreed.

• 19:19Speaker 04

  He had 13% of the FBI going after January 6th cases. That's 5,000 out of 38,000 people, hunting grandmothers, grandfathers, people that weren't even in Washington that day.

• 19:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Including over getting over petabytes of information where they help identify people who are wearing winter gear and covered up by the way they walked and their anticipated height. So they took that action of people that were on the thing, but they had all sorts of street footage, and they couldn't find this guy for five years.

• 19:49Speaker 04

  Yeah, so, yeah, for five years, and then Cash-

• 19:51Tom Ellsworth?

  I just wanna make sure I understood.

• 19:52Speaker 04

  No, yo, you get it, and then it's weird that they come in and they find him like that. It's the narrative, January 6th was the setup from the, from the beginning, and if you think about it, the pipe bombs didn't go off because then they, they know they'd be in a, in a world of crap, but look at how this FBI, and I want people to understand, Cash Patel, Pam Bondi, all Dan Bondi, all these people, good job, they're doing something, we have criticized them in the past, but think about- All the agents, Tom, that are still in the FBI, that still have that hate, that still would do the, you know, the color revolution that we keep talking about. You, just because they're in charge doesn't mean anything. Those people are still involved, just like the Lisa Pages, just like the freaking Peter Strzok.

• 20:27Tom Ellsworth?

  There's like five stories here you're covering. First you have the CNN, by the way, this is CNN's habit, Pat. Remember George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin? And George Zimmerman, you know, the two networks that took the most heat for calling him a white Hispanic? Do you remember that?

• 20:42Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 20:43Tom Ellsworth?

  George Zimmerman, the white Hispanic that gunned down Trayvon Martin? No, they didn't wrestle on the ground. He wasn't trying to get him. He wasn't shot that way. He gunned him down, right? And George Zimmerman was a white Hispanic. And CNN, ladies and gentlemen, CNN, Jake Tapper, and NBC took the most hit for using, which one coined it uncertain, but they both used it to death, and now they're using this. By the way, do you know who's responsible for the Ukraine war? A white Russian named Vladimir Putin.

• 21:11Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 21:12Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, no, it's coming, right? Everything, everything's quite fair. They're, they're showing you what they're gonna do. That's one story. Now you have the cover up. Now you have petabytes of information, but they choose not to look at it until now. And then they finally look at this guy. This is incredible.

• 21:25Speaker 04

  And you know why, if you think about it, guys, Trump wasn't supposed to win. Their plan, their entire plan, this wasn't supposed to come to, to pass. Their plan was jail him, destroy him, that didn't work, shoot him in the freaking head, didn't work because they hire people that have shitty aim, and we are where we are. And I mean, and Tom, I get it because I'm impatient. I have to work on my patience. I want it faster. I have the hope, I have the faith, but come on, like the Comey, Comey and Tish James, they just got their cases, what, kind of dismissed? But they're gonna keep going back after them, because I'm telling you.

• 21:58Tom Ellsworth?

  There was another dismissal yesterday.

• 21:59Speaker 04

  Yeah, this is, this is, this is, this is huge. This is huge, and it exposes them.

• 22:04Adam Sosnick?

  This, this investigation took five years?

• 22:06Speaker 04

  No, no, Adam, this isn't, well, for them, for Cash Patel, less than a year, less than a year to find the guy that they buried the story.

• 22:12Adam Sosnick?

  Cause you're tracking the story a little bit more than me. Are you saying that under the Biden administration, they just, this guy was just walking around, they did nothing?

• 22:18Speaker 04

  And nothing, Adam, nothing. They knew where he was. My opinion, it's, you can't be that stupid, Adam, you can't be that stupid. They lost the case on November 10th, 2020. They lost the case. The, like, the, it, it, this is humiliation for the FBI.

• 22:31Tom Ellsworth?

  We'll put the files in Biden's garage, even he'll forget about it.

• 22:34Adam Sosnick?

  But they found the pipe bombs next to the RNC and the DNC. So this guy wasn't, he was just sowing chaos? It wasn't exactly aligned with the party, huh?

• 22:43Speaker 04

  But here's the thing, what was, what was his motive? To distract, Adam, when you have bombs in Washington, you know how many cops and everybody's distracted looking that way? So that the January 6th mayhem can go exactly the way that they want it and Nancy Pelosi could say, well, I don't want the National Guard. It's all, guys, and for how many years? It's been five years and it was, oh my God, the biggest threat to democracy. We even had that, that maniac, who was the guy?

• 23:09Speaker 04

  Steve Schmidt? Steve Schmidt. If January 6th was worse than 9/11, shut up. That's the narrative that they wanted to push with the Lincoln Project? This is a joke. It was a joke. They provoked those people and this is where we are today.

• 23:21Tom Ellsworth?

  This sort of has intel, sniffs of intel, doesn't it? The pipe bombs are put at two locations, number one. Number two, they said, well, those pipe bombs were viable. There was real explosives, it could have been done. And they won't tell us though, um, were there a, was there a timer in it? Was the timer not set properly? Was this appeared to be purposely designed? The FBI, believe it or not, has a database on all the types of bombs that are used because they know which groups circulate documents to each other's on the how to's. There's how to's out there among these groups. And I was reading last night that says, the FBI needs to come out and tell us, what was the design of the bombs? What do you suspect was the source? Because they can tell you, oh, those are Middle East guys did it that way. These guys do it that way.

• 24:01Tom Ellsworth?

  All they say, no, they were viable bombs, but they didn't go off. Why didn't they go off? In your professional bomb expert opinion?

• 24:07Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, and I'm just, those are important details. I just want to understand one thing. What was his motive?

• 24:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Why is he doing this? Who was paying him? What was his motivation?

• 24:14Speaker 04

  Well, Adam.

• 24:14Tom Ellsworth?

  What is he looking to do? What team is he on?

• 24:16Speaker 04

  That's a great question.

• 24:17Tom Ellsworth?

  That to me is the first question.

• 24:17Speaker 04

  But if you think about it, who's, if you had to assume, why would he be on the Republican? He's anti-Trump, anti-this, loves Antifa or whatever the hell, all these facts. This is the, I'm telling you right now, you gotta give them credit. They are so good because it almost worked.

• 24:33Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, Rob, what's the story about? If it does work, Kamala Harris was by the DNC? Is that the story? If you want to maybe tell us a little bit about that?

• 24:42Speaker 11

  Yeah, in fact, she was reportedly at the DNC headquarters the morning of January 6th. Apparently, she was in the vicinity of where, if these explosive devices had gone off, she would have been injured or worse. They actually asked Pam Bondi about that yesterday because you never hear the Vice President-elect was almost assassinated in Washington DC on January 6th? You never hear that narrative, but it almost happened. Pam Bondi was asked about that yesterday.

• 25:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, this is it?

• 25:08Speaker 11

  Yep.

• 25:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 25:10Speaker 12

  Any theory on why Kamala Harris is never mentioned coming within 20 feet of being assassinated? And any news on why her Secret Service team took so long to find this bomb at the DNC?

• 25:20Speaker 08

  No, but what I will tell you is that evidence has been sitting there collecting dust. This wasn't a new tip. It wasn't some new evidence. It was the hard work of President Trump's administration, Deputy Director Bongino and Director Patel. I watched them from day one come in here and say, "We are going to solve this crime." And they did, working hand in hand with US Attorney Pirro and all of our great attorneys.

• 25:50Speaker 04

  And I hope during the investigation, he actually has the Brian guy to say, "Who did it? Who told you?" Because if you really think about it, the insurrection act that they were going to try to use to not let the president run again, this was the main thing that put it over the hump, Pat. Like, you guys had white supremacist pipe bombs? Oh, he can't be the president. And look at how-

• 26:10Tom Ellsworth?

  If the Biden administration knew about it, Pat, wouldn't they have like invented phrases like, "insurrectionists and potential assassins"?

• 26:17Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 26:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Wouldn't they have like invented that and tagged that onto it? If there was like- A half a block possibility that Kamala could have been injured.

• 26:25Patrick Bet-David?

  What I want to know is, okay, so.

• 26:27Tom Ellsworth?

  That seems odd to me.

• 26:28Patrick Bet-David?

  So now that they're showing us that we know who this white man was, okay, that did what he did. Okay, so now, tell us why he did that, okay? Take it a step ahead and tell us why he did that to the American people can find out. Because if this was sitting there, find him, have you interviewed him? Is he still around, by the way? Is he dead? Is he alive?

• 26:48Adam Sosnick?

  He's alive.

• 26:48Tom Ellsworth?

  The rest take it into custody.

• 26:50Speaker 04

  And Rob, show us how. Let Pat show us how. Patrick Z bad too, not shit. Look, look at the, look, he's not.

• 26:55Patrick Bet-David?

  He lives in a cul-de-sac.

• 26:56Speaker 04

  Yeah, you live in a cul-de-sac, bro? You're doing well.

• 26:58Adam Sosnick?

  You're in the nicest house at the end of the street.

• 26:59Patrick Bet-David?

  So you gotta find out why he did it, who he's connected to, messages, emails, exchanges. You can find, you should be able to find out, you know, even the best criminals out there. You should be able to find out what the motive behind what they were doing. Anyways, I want to get to the next story with this. If you want to give your final thoughts.

• 27:16Adam Sosnick?

  No, just say one thing, don't look now, but it seems like the Trump administration, all these guys, are very much aligned and unified. Epstein thing aside, where Cash Patel and Pam Bondi and Dan Bongino, we're all catching beef. Oh, my God, what's going on? Seems like everybody's falling in line right now. That's all I'm saying.

• 27:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Unified on this topic?

• 27:34Adam Sosnick?

  Just in general.

• 27:35Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I don't.

• 27:36Adam Sosnick?

  It seems like they're a little bit more unified.

• 27:37Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know.

• 27:38Adam Sosnick?

  Than the gaslighting that was going on.

• 27:40Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think so. I don't think so.

• 27:41Adam Sosnick?

  You don't think so? They're standing there together.

• 27:43Tom Ellsworth?

  No, well, that's the catch.

• 27:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Who is aligned? The Bongino.

• 27:46Adam Sosnick?

  Trump administration.

• 27:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. On this issue, sure. And by the way, to be honest with you, I think Bondi is trying to keep her job.

• 27:56Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 27:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, I think that's what she's trying to do. You know, Bondi's trying to keep her job and she has to have some victories. And there's been a lot of, you know, fumbles and the way things were handled, a lot of mishandling going on there. And they're trying to redo and reframe the reputation and come out and get some stuff out there. And this is a good beginning of what things could take place.

• 28:18Adam Sosnick?

  I agree.

• 28:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Hopefully, if they continue going. Anyways, all right, let's go to the next story here. Next story I want to get to is Scott Besson at a New York Times event.

• 28:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Himself and Alex Karp from Palantir and Halle Berry. But let's first start off with Scott Beson. Scott Beson is being interviewed and they're talking about a bunch of different things. And then all of a sudden, he blasts New York Times at their own event over the coverage of Trump's health. Go ahead, Rob.

• 28:46Speaker 13

  You had what was the greatest, one of the greatest scandals of all time, that the coverage of the Biden administration, Joe Biden's diminished capacity and the cover up. And that's why it's probably fair to raise these questions. Where was the New York Times? We just had a three hour cabinet meeting yesterday, Andrew. For 10 months, the Biden administration did not have a cabinet meeting. How are you going to invoke the 25th amendment if the cabinet secretaries never see the president, which they didn't?

• 29:17Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, Rob, that's not even the best clip. The clip is when he talks about, I mean, you can find another clip that he calls him out because there's a couple of clips with him and, and, and New York Times. He just goes boom, left, right. And that's a fact, like 10 months? 10 months. They didn't have a freaking cabinet meeting? Yeah. Holy crap. And to the point that even he doesn't have anything to say. Tom, what was your reaction when you first saw this here with Beson? Is this the one, Rob, that's a longer version of it?

• 29:43Speaker 11

  That's a little bit of a shorter one. Hang on.

• 29:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, you, you keep looking at, I think there's one other clip.

• 29:47Speaker 11

  This is 134.

• 29:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, let's just see this one here.

• 29:50Speaker 13

  Is this a new normal? That, Andrew, there's no new normal. And, you know, I can tell you that, you know, I actually don't read the New York Times anymore, but sometimes, I do watch CNBC, but, you know, occasionally people send me articles and like, there's just this fever swamp. And, you know, you're, you're now a pop historian with 1929.

• 30:13Patrick Bet-David?

  There you go.

• 30:14Speaker 13

  And, you know, in 20, 30, 40, 50 years, the New York Times is no longer the paper of record. You can't go, you're like, you know, I read this article, but President Trump is slowing down, President Trump's mental capacity. It is 100% fake that like, he only called me twice at 2:00 in the morning last week. Instead of three times. You're saying he called you, I believe that he called you at two or three in the morning. That, you know, like that, that whole narrative, you, you had what was the greatest, one of the greatest scandals.

• 30:44Patrick Bet-David?

  So we watched this, Tom, go ahead.

• 30:46Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, what I think it just shows how, how prepared and the leadership of Scott Besen.

• 30:51Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm just a big fan of Scott Besen.

• 30:52Tom Ellsworth?

  I am a big fan of Scott Besen. I love his leadership. I love the policy decisions he's, he's, he's taken very much. And what he does here is Deal Book is part of the LA Times, excuse me, LA Times, New York Times. I gotta, gotta get my liberal fish rap straight. So he does this and he tries to put these things out there and he's just leading with his chin, unfortunately. Andrew Ross Sorkin in the mornings on CNBC, he's kind of the liberal voice that's there and he gets pushed a lot on there. But he's a knowledgeable guy and everything. And then here he goes trying to put these common things up there and kind of not really a debate format, but in kind of a counter format. And Scott Besen just says, you're gonna throw an 80 mile an hour fastball at me. There's a word for 85 mile an hour fastballs, souvenirs.

• 31:37Speaker 13

  Yeah.

• 31:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Because he's gonna hit that and that's exactly what Scott Besen did. He hit it and I, I, I very much liked it. And it was a big day for people taking a stand and making statements that were a little embarrassing. This was supposed to be a business conference talking about how politics and, uh, you know, treasury policy, rates and everything meet business. And he had a lot of people on stage there and it turned out that, you know, Andrew Ross Sorkin gets slapped a couple of times.

• 32:02Patrick Bet-David?

  And by, by the way, I'm a fan of him.

• 32:04Tom Ellsworth?

  I like him in the morning.

• 32:05Patrick Bet-David?

  I think he's good at what he does. And I applaud New York Times for inviting the people that they did. They invited Erica Kirk. They invited Scott Besen. They invited, so good for them for doing that, but you got your ass handed to you by Scott Besen. And by the way, while this is going on, they invited Halle Berry to a New York Times event. What? Halle Berry? And Halle Berry gets up on stage. If I were to tell you right now, Halle Berry is gonna get on stage, at a New York Times event and call out Newsom, and I told you last week, I wanna make a prediction. What would you have been, your odds of this happening? Slim to none? Watch what she says. Go ahead, Rob.

• 32:41Speaker 14

  But the opposite of that, back in my great state of California, my very own governor, Gavin Newsom, has vetoed our menopause bill, not one but two years in a row. But that's okay, because he's not gonna be governor forever. And with the way he's overlooked women, half the population, by devaluing us in midlife, he probably should not be our next president either. Just saying. I need every woman in this country to fight with me. But the truth is, the fight isn't just for us women. We need men too. We need all of the leaders, every single one of you in this room. This fight needs you.

• 33:24Patrick Bet-David?

  That's pretty wild for her to speak the way that she does. Adam, your thoughts on how it works.

• 33:29Adam Sosnick?

  How old is Halle Berry now, by the way?

• 33:30Patrick Bet-David?

  She just posted a picture saying, celebrating 68 or 58 or something like that. Can you pull with her?

• 33:35Adam Sosnick?

  She's in the way, she's 68.

• 33:37Patrick Bet-David?

  She's just had 59.

• 33:38Adam Sosnick?

  Wow. She's still got it, baby. Oh, she looks great. Hell, you still got it. So just so you understand the framing of the situation, this is a New York Times event, and they're inviting people to have open conversation.

• 33:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 33:50Adam Sosnick?

  Sort of unlike what the actual paper does.

• 33:52Patrick Bet-David?

  New York Times.

• 33:53Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah. How often have you heard Trump go, "The failing New York Times, the failing New York Times." The New York Times, let's get this straight, they used to be the gold standard for reporting, for journalism.

• 34:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 34:04Adam Sosnick?

  They were like, "We're the New York Times. How dare you question us? We're the New York Times." At this point, they're like, the running joke or leftist gag, like, "Oh, the New York Times did it again. The New York Times said this." Okay, buddy. And they still act shocked when you call them out for their misinformation, their mistrust, their disinformation. They're supposed to be the ones who are speaking truth to power, but they're no longer journalists, they're just activists, just parroting the leftist progressive mouthpieces of, "You see what's going on in New York." This is the New York Times at this point.

• 34:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom. So on Halle Berry. Halle Berry and Newsom. By the way, if, Rob, Newsom responded. If you want to pull up Newsom, he did not respond, but his team responded and said something like, "We are looking forward..." There you go, I think you have, was that it or no? Gavin Newsom and Halle Berry out of California, when women are struggling silently. That's what she said. That's what she said, yeah. He responded, his team said, you know, "We appreciate Halle Berry's concern, and we are willing to work." Yeah, Gavin Newsom responds to this, zoom in a little bit, deep admiration for Halle Berry's advocacy and is reconciling this after he... Received a sharp rebuke from the Oscar winning actor. Uh, who warned he probably should not be president during her address. In my great city, Cal, go a little bit lower. Is there a uh? Is there a sentence on?

• 35:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Newsom told, yeah, I'd be, is that the one?

• 35:23Speaker 11

  No, that's from uh, October.

• 35:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. So anyways, apparently his team responded and said something that, you know, we, we understand. The importance here and. You know, we want to work with her to. Get what she wants done in the state of California. In some cert, some words like that. That uh, they responded to. Tom, your thoughts on uh, Halle Berry?

• 35:43Tom Ellsworth?

  You know what? I love that she stood up for this because. Every now and then you'll find a celebrity with an authentic cause. And what I mean by that is. When you reach celebrity status, you will get coached by your publicist. Oh, save the whales. Keep the dolphins out of the tuna nets. You know, and all that. By the way, dolphins are supposed to be smart. If they're so smart, what are they doing in a tuna net? Anyway, so they go on these kind of fake. Um, you've saw, you know, they would encourage you, publicists encourage you in Hollywood. You're a comedian actor. Hey, get behind some kind of charity. You know, and it has nothing to do with you. Halle Berry says this has to do with women. And what she's trying to get, you know, I believe. Um, you, that, that Medicare plans include Cialis or Viagra now.

• 36:28Tom Ellsworth?

  And people are asking, saying, what the hell is the government really paying for that? And check me on that. I believe Medicare plans cover that. And what Halle Berry is trying to do is saying, hey, let's get insurers to cover. Drugs that affect uh, hormone drugs, hormone replacement drugs and osteoporosis drugs. And the things that women need as supplements at menopause. So apparently Halle Berry is with a very legitimate cause. As a woman entering middle age and still looking great and representing it and saying, my governor can't get behind this. I'm not out here with save the whales. I'm not out here with some weird charity. I'm out here specifically stating, these things could help women.

• 37:07Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, this is Newsom at the airport responding to it. Go ahead, Rob.

• 37:12Speaker 15

  Halle Berry had some comments, do you have any she had?

• 37:15Speaker 07

  Actually, just connected with her manager, we're ability to reconcile, so we're reconciling.

• 37:20Speaker 15

  So like

• 37:21Speaker 07

  I've included it in the budget next year, she didn't know that.

• 37:23Speaker 15

  Oh, really?

• 37:23Speaker 07

  So we're reconciling.

• 37:24Speaker 15

  So how do you, what's your message to women who might have been offended by the bill? Or just what do they not understand about the bill that they should understand?

• 37:31Speaker 07

  They didn't understand we already were on the process of this, so we're getting a fix.

• 37:34Speaker 15

  So did you have a, you talked to our manager exactly?

• 37:38Speaker 07

  He's such a

• 37:39Speaker 15

  Governor, any chance, uh, 2020?

• 37:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay, if it was already in there, why would Halle Berry say that? If it was already in there, why does she go on stage in New York? We're reconciling.

• 37:49Patrick Bet-David?

  He's the spin master.

• 37:49Tom Ellsworth?

  We didn't fix it.

• 37:50Speaker 04

  Amazing.

• 37:51Adam Sosnick?

  And he's not scared to go on camera and say, yeah, this is exactly what happened and defend his position.

• 37:55Speaker 04

  The definition of sociopath is they, they actually, they know it's a lie, but they're so good that they believe it.

• 38:01Adam Sosnick?

  He is like water.

• 38:02Speaker 04

  But did you, I don't, did you actually see him on the stage? I think we should take a moment of silence for his actual, his manhood that was crushed.

• 38:09Adam Sosnick?

  For that killer crossover?

• 38:10Speaker 04

  Who, why do Democrats sit like that? I, look at how even the other leg is folded, Pat? That can't be comfortable. Him and Obama, like, how, how would you not talk like this? That's how I would talk. It hurts.

• 38:22Adam Sosnick?

  Maybe he drank.

• 38:22Speaker 04

  Hey, guys, how do you feel about California? That's how that would

• 38:25Tom Ellsworth?

  So he could be like the six foot three Christmas elf?

• 38:28Speaker 04

  Yeah, exactly.

• 38:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, you were gonna say something.

• 38:31Speaker 04

  Sorry.

• 38:31Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I was gonna say, if you, he, what he's doing there, if you were to connect the dots, and this was Republicans, you know what they would say? If that was, if that was, if Halle Berry was a Republican, and then that was Gavin Newsom there, they would say Gavin Newsom accused Halle Berry of lying. He said that she was, didn't even do her research, didn't know it was there. That would be the media coverage. But why would Halle Berry go to New York to stand on a stage at the New York Times Deal Books Summit? And say something she knew not to be true? If they already had the coverage with it, why is it a cause? Why would she do that? Why would she, you know, stick her chin out? She wouldn't.

• 39:06Speaker 04

  Nope.

• 39:07Tom Ellsworth?

  I, I don't, I don't, personally, I don't believe Gavin Newsom, and I'd like to see the receipts that say that all the things that Halle Berry is specifically talking about, coverages, drugs and whatnot, are truthfully, honestly in there. Now, if he's saying, we have it in the budget, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I thought this part of this was she wanted to compel insurance carriers and other people. We have it in the budget? Wait a minute, how? You see where I'm going? How would I have it in the budget if it was supposed to be a policy that forces health insurers to do something?

• 39:36Patrick Bet-David?

  How much do you think, Tom? How much you think this Tish Hyman lady is influencing Halle? What is the likelihood that he has watched, she has watched all those videos with Tish? You know what I'm talking about, Rob?

• 39:50Speaker 04

  I think it's very likely. I think it's very likely.

• 39:51Patrick Bet-David?

  How likely you think it is?

• 39:52Speaker 04

  I think it's over ninety percent.

• 39:54Tom Ellsworth?

  The black lesbian lady in Boon Jim? Halle Berry is an Oscar award winning actress. And you know what they do when they, they get to get into character? Actresses and actors of her caliber, Academy Award winnings, do a lot of research. You know about this. You do deep research to get in with the character. Deep research to know what you're gonna do, how to present yourself.

• 40:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, I ask a simple question.

• 40:14Tom Ellsworth?

  So why wouldn't she?

• 40:14Patrick Bet-David?

  What's the likelihood that she's watched Tish Hyman?

• 40:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Excuse me, I'll answer it. I'll answer it.

• 40:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead.

• 40:18Tom Ellsworth?

  So, um, the likelihood that she has looked at other people and how to present herself and including Tish Hyman? I think is pretty high.

• 40:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Just say yes. So it's high likely that she did?

• 40:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes.

• 40:28Patrick Bet-David?

  That's all you have to say. It's not, I don't need an explanation. So if she's watched it, so she's probably inspired by what she's also saying. Like the level of agitation for women in the state of California is that, hey, we are ourselves, uh, uh, uh, you know, following a story like this to see what's going on here. But I think her level, Tom, stay with us here. You don't, you don't need to, just stay with us. So I think the part here with Tish, I think she's playing a role in California. I think she's playing a role in California, Tish is. I think Tish needs to understand that she has what it takes to possibly even influence politically. So I think if there is a relationship there for her to get out there and be vocal about what she's talking about?

• 41:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, when's the last time Halle Berry was that vocal about Newsom? Rob, can you even pull up? When is the last time Halle Berry's ever been vocal about Newsom? When's the last time?

• 41:23Speaker 04

  Or even politics in general, Pat? Have you ever heard her say?

• 41:26Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I just wanna know, when is the last time Halle Berry has been vocal about Newsom? When has that ever happened? Prior to yesterday?

• 41:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, priests have come only in October, Newsom, menopause, this veto October, okay, Barry had officially last October event. Got it, okay. So, so she has not, she's never been vocal about Newsom ever till now.

• 41:51Adam Sosnick?

  That's crazy.

• 41:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, when was Tish Hyman vocal about Newsom?

• 41:55Adam Sosnick?

  I mean recently, within the last month.

• 41:57Patrick Bet-David?

  So I think Halle is getting her confidence from other women that are questioning things for her to say this makes sense. That's the point I'm trying to make. I think Tish is playing a role in California, getting others to be thinking.

• 42:11Adam Sosnick?

  Think about how bad it is when you lose liberal, black women in Cali, gay black women, you're losing your whole audience. Are you kidding me? You're losing the L, the G, and the B over the T, we're gonna have a problem.

• 42:26Speaker 04

  Is that wild? Is that wild?

• 42:28Patrick Bet-David?

  That is, that is pretty wild.

• 42:29Speaker 04

  But I'm so happy, how happy are you to see it though? Like it's, and, and, and what's his name too? Who was the, uh, the guy that's gonna try to take over Nancy Pelosi? The, the Jewish guy, the, the guy with the glasses.

• 42:39Adam Sosnick?

  Why would you do my know him?

• 42:41Speaker 04

  The weird guy that was taking photos at the, at the parade.

• 42:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, yeah, I don't know.

• 42:45Speaker 04

  That's, that's, they're all, they act like they're about women, they don't give a damn about women.

• 42:49Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know who that guy is. I don't know who that guy is. Okay, in the interim, while this is taking place, Rob, do you, do you wanna pull up the, I'm trying to see if I go to this one now, or do we wait till the end? Yeah, let's go to this one here. Barack Obama suggests military resistance pushing back on politicization of the Justice Department. Okay, so Barack is back at it again, Rob, go ahead and play this clip, let's see what he has to say, go for it.

• 43:16Speaker 16

  I didn't, I would not have expected, uh, the legitimacy of an election and the peaceful transfer of power to be, to have been challenged.

• 43:28Speaker 04

  Really?

• 43:29Speaker 16

  I thought that was not something that would happen today.

• 43:32Speaker 04

  Look at his legs.

• 43:35Speaker 16

  I would not expect, um...

• 43:42Speaker 16

  The politicization of the Justice Department or our military.

• 43:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Wow.

• 43:49Patrick Bet-David?

  He's really gonna say this.

• 43:51Speaker 16

  Happened. I think there's been resistance, particularly in the military to that, but the degree to which.

• 44:00Patrick Bet-David?

  I can't even listen to this. Five second pauses. Go ahead, Tom.

• 44:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Color revolution playbook. That's what you're saying. The legitimacy of challenging this. This is color revolution playbook. And this guy is still at his core, right out of Saul Alinsky's playbook. That's what I see.

• 44:18Speaker 04

  Like, the, the, the absolute gall for him to sit there, again, with his legs folded, because he's one of them too. His legs folded, sitting there talking about weaponizing and the Justice Department. His, his DOJ was already spying on Trump before every, he's the guy. He's, I, I truly believe, Pat, Tom, he's the guy behind all this. All the, you know, the questions of who signed the auto pin? Who was, who was really in charge? That guy. I think Barack Obama silently in the back, remember that video that he did? He's like, I wish, um, I had a little earpiece that I could just, because he wanted, he even said he wanted to run for a third term. He's the guy. And Tom, I keep hearing, and you're so right.

• 45:02Speaker 04

  It's a color revolution. They want to delegitimize the actual guy who we all voted for. The popular vote, swing states, you name it. We wanted it, but they're trying to tell us, no, no, no. And what is he talking about, Pat? He's basically talking about the Venezuela bombings, correct? That's what he's talking about. He's talking about orders that are legal. But you're having these people like the Mark Kellys and all these people in unison, try to say and delegitimize the orders of the sitting president of the United States as if, as if any of them are in the briefing rooms, any of them in the situation rooms, any of them know what the hell's going on. And the fact that they're trying to push a narrative that it's a fishing boat. Robbie, can you, can you look at what these boats actually look like, Patrick? It's not, they're speeding towards.

• 45:45Speaker 04

  Uh, uh, America, what, what are you, what are you coming for? And is it just me? Or does Venezuela not have internet? Do none of these narco idiots understand? If you're coming on a boat, speeding with drugs, we're gonna bomb the shit out of you. Stay away. Like, yeah, who's fishing on that thing? What are all those barrels in there? What are you, stupid?

• 46:04Tom Ellsworth?

  It's chum. We're gonna throw it in there. We're chumming, we're chumming for, uh, chumming for tuna.

• 46:09Speaker 04

  But it, it drives me crazy about this guy, Barack Obama, one of the most divisive, drone-striking racists, telling people that if you're, if you're, if you're black, you gotta vote for, for Kamala. I think he's the guy. I think he's the ringleader. And I think Hillary is standing right next to him with all the stuff that was going on for the past four years.

• 46:26Tom Ellsworth?

  When you say ringleader, we look at Steele dossier, Russia, you can go down the list. He was either in the room, had knowledge, or called the shot. And multiple points based on a list of people that were at meetings, based on the list of people that were covered, including his chief of staff on emails, all those things.

• 46:41Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 46:41Tom Ellsworth?

  You were there, you called the shot, or you were in the room?

• 46:44Speaker 04

  And he has immunity. Do you know who talks like that? A guy that knows that he'll never gonna go to jail. He has presidential immunity. Go, sit there and get your $250,000 for this speech, probably more, and just lie. Lie.

• 46:56Adam Sosnick?

  Look, I, uh, watch a lot of different news outlets, sort of a mixed media diet, and I'm looking for the Democratic Party to be like, this is what they stand for. And as a former liberal, I'm thinking, you never know. You never know. If the right goes too deranged, maybe I'll go back left. And I'm seeing literally nothing come from the left. Nothing. Where I'm like, huh, good point. Huh. Cause the entire narrative is we hate Trump, he's the worst, he's a bad man, he's Hitler. Trust us, bro, trust us, bro. You're not selling us anything. You're not giving us any hope. What was his whole thing? His whole message was hope and change?

• 47:34Speaker 04

  Yeah, changed my ass.

• 47:34Adam Sosnick?

  They're doing nothing but try to tear down what Trump has built. And for the average person out there, they're like, Trump or Ilhan Omar? Yeah, I'm gonna go with Trump on this one, buddy. And that's essentially what the Democratic Party is. As bad as they think Trump is, their approval numbers and their poll numbers are literally lifetime low. So that's how bad the Democratic brand is at this point.

• 47:56Tom Ellsworth?

  You make a good point. If that was W. talking about, um, you know, Clinton, or if that was, um, Trump talking about Obama, what would the news coverage be?

• 48:06Adam Sosnick?

  Instead, you're so correct. Silence, crickets. Obama says all this stuff, crickets.

• 48:12Speaker 04

  What do you think, Pat?

• 48:12Adam Sosnick?

  How much relevancy does Obama even have at this point? How much is he moving the needle? He used all his bullets during the election, so to speak.

• 48:20Speaker 04

  And there were blanks.

• 48:21Adam Sosnick?

  Black men, listen to me. And they're like, yeah, we're good, Barack. We're gonna vote for Trump.

• 48:25Patrick Bet-David?

  This is all around Venezuela, right? Is this what this is all around?

• 48:29Speaker 04

  Yeah, he's talking about the orders that the president is giving to blow up.

• 48:33Patrick Bet-David?

  So let's go to that. Let's go and talk about that. So new details emerge about the controversial September 2nd strike on alleged drug boat that killed survivors. This is ABC News. Rob, I think you got a clip on this here if you want to play the clip.

• 48:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Is this the one, Rob? Yep. Okay, go for it.

• 48:53Speaker 17

  And tonight, new information. According to a source familiar with the incident, the two survivors climbed back onto the boat after the initial strike. They were believed to be potentially in communication with others and salvaging some of the drugs. Because of that, it was determined they were still in the fight and valid targets. A JAG officer was also giving legal advice. So again, David, that video will be key, and Admiral Bradley will be on the hill.

• 49:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so is this the back and forth on Hexit ordering a lethal attack but not the killing of the survivors? These two stories are kind of one hand in hand, right, Rob? Do you have that one as well?

• 49:32Speaker 11

  Yeah, so that was ABC News. Now CNN reports that the admiral has said that the people, the two remaining survivors of the September 2nd boat strike, they were not actually trying to radio to other drug smugglers. This is CNN reporting this late last night.

• 49:49Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, with what?

• 49:51Speaker 18

  Breaking news, we have new exclusive reporting on the double strike on that alleged drug boat in September. Admiral Frank Mitch Bradley, who oversaw the operation, told lawmakers today that the two survivors did not, as some defense officials have been claiming for months behind scenes, radio for backup before a second strike killed them. That's according to two sources with direct knowledge of today's closed-door briefings. Now, joining me is Senator Tammy Duckworth, a member of the Armed Services Committee and a retired US Army pilot. So Senator, does this change the calculus when determining whether a secondary strike would be necessary? The idea that there was not a radio call?

• 50:26Speaker 19

  It doesn't really, Anderson. It tells you that the Defense Department has been lying to everybody since September, but it doesn't change their calculus because, as I, you know, if you were, if these were pilots, if this was war and this was, this was a pilot who'd been shot down, you're sitting in a rubber dinghy in the middle of the ocean and they radio for help, you're supposed to pick them up, you're supposed to help them. Or even if their, even if their forces pick them up, you can't just go in and kill those people just because you think that they might conduct future operations against you. It, it just violates all sorts of international laws of warfare. It's illegal on so many levels.

• 51:00Patrick Bet-David?

  The imposter right there. Okay, Vinny, what do you have to say about this?

• 51:03Speaker 04

  Okay, well, well, first and foremost, just to make it clear, these aren't fishermen coming here to get tuna and all that nonsense, okay? These are people coming here, Patrick, fentanyl, and some guy yesterday on CNN with us was like, "It's cocaine, it's cocaine, it's fentanyl, it's drugs that are killing hundreds of thousands Americans." Put that in your, in your, in your minds out there, and this is what they're fighting for. This, this is it. And those two guys are hanging on the water, they're calling for help, or, or their boys are gonna come get them. Who do you think's gonna come get them? Other drug dealers that are gonna grab the drugs.

• 51:39Patrick Bet-David?

  So what's the issue, though? What, what's the controversy here?

• 51:41Speaker 04

  They're trying to say, Pat, that Pete Hegseth is ordering a second strike. As you know, as a, as a soldier, as a veteran, and I've watched these videos, Pat, because that's all I would do when I was in the military. When you strike and you see those like AC-110 Warthog, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, and you hit them and they're wounded, and they're staying there, you hear, "Hit 'em again." You gotta get rid of the freaking threat, because if you keep them alive, they get another boat, and they keep bringing the drugs to the country. I, I can, I approve to this 1,000%. He has a mandate, Pat, this is the Department of War, okay? Enough is enough. We can't let anybody here, and if you think about it, every mandate that Trump has, every mandate, the border, they, they want to open the borders as best they can, deporting people, they have a problem with that, the terrorists that we're gonna get to, 83 billion dollars

• 52:25Speaker 04

  a month, they want to stop that. He's killing people that are coming here, that are going to eventually, with their poison, kill Americans, and this is just something, Pat, that- The, the media and the left, this is the tactic. They have to do something and it's not gonna work cuz it's not illegal. It's not illegal. Ask the hundreds of thousands of mothers and fathers who've had to bury their kids. Two of my friends, Rico and Foo from, from California. Yeah, they're at a party and they did a, a little bit of drugs and they both died. Two of my friends cuz they're, this cocaine had fentanyl in it. They didn't overdose, they were poisoned. So enough of this nonsense, enough. This is just another talking point that she had to come out and admit. And now anything, Pat, every day it's something different. Well, they were floating, well, they weren't waving. I don't give a shit.

• 53:09Speaker 04

  If you're coming here to kill Americans, you're gonna die. Get, if they, those Venezuelans, get an email. Look at, look at the internet, get X and know that we will bomb your ass if you come here. Period.

• 53:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Play this clip first, go ahead, Rob. So this is what, this is Hexet saying that he did watch a nine-two boat strike, but says he didn't, uh, stay around for the entirely. And then says it was Adam, uh, Admiral Bradley that made the call, right? To sink the boat.

• 53:32Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 53:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, go ahead.

• 53:33Speaker 07

  Good. Watched that first strike live. Uh, as you can imagine, at the Department of War, we got a lot of things to do. So I didn't stick around for the hour and two hours, whatever, where all the sensitive site exploitation digitally occurs. So I moved on to my next meeting. Couple of hours later, I learned that that commander had made the, which he had the complete authority to do.

• 53:52Speaker 04

  Bingo.

• 53:53Speaker 07

  And by the way, Admiral Bradley made the correct decision.

• 53:55Speaker 04

  Bingo.

• 53:56Speaker 07

  To ultimately sink the boat and eliminate the threat. He sunk the boat, sunk the boat and eliminated the threat. And, uh, it was the right call. We have his back and the American people are safer. Because narco terrorists know you can't bring drugs through the water and eventually on land if necessary.

• 54:15Speaker 04

  Has to do.

• 54:16Speaker 07

  To the American people. We will eliminate that threat and we're proud to do it.

• 54:20Speaker 04

  So he didn't say he survived. Pat, plain and simple, plain and simple. I, I got up, I have other stuff to do. My admiral, chain of command, said, blow them, kill them. That's it. That, the message should be out there. Okay, and this whole Venezuela case, didn't Maria Machado, didn't she technically win the election, Patrick? That guy's not even supposed to be in there. And he's running for his life, like you said in the beginning, sleeping in different beds. Enough is enough. Any American. That is gonna be threatened by your drugs, we're going to kill you. What the hell does Anderson Cooper know about war? What briefing rooms does Anderson Cooper or anybody at ABC? I have a source that's a Trump-hating congresswoman. Go in front of the camera and talk shit about the president. Enough already, enough. He has a mandate? That's what I voted for, Pat.

• 55:04Patrick Bet-David?

  What is this? What is this? Do you have the clip about Maduro sleeping in different beds? And, you know, changing phones just to big show her because he's worried for his life?

• 55:12Speaker 04

  I do. I think it's...

• 55:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Is this a clip or?

• 55:16Speaker 04

  But I believe it's in...

• 55:19Speaker 11

  Alberto, what are they saying?

• 55:21Speaker 20

  Me informó de otras cosas parecidas a esta pero más...

• 55:24Patrick Bet-David?

  It's in Spanish?

• 55:24Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 55:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. See if you can have that and translate it. Tom, tell us your thoughts about this story here.

• 55:29Tom Ellsworth?

  So Maduro, if he's truly sleeping in different beds, it means he is convinced... I found three stories together to be very, very funny. Maduro said, "I had a peaceful and productive..." I think those were the translated Spanish words. "Peaceful and productive phone call with President Trump." And then we hear, "He's sleeping in different beds and he's using different phones." Okay? That sounds like a guy who's a little worried about sophisticated triangulation through electronic devices and is now sleeping in different places. Because if you take a look at, um, look at the Israeli actions in Beirut. They knew what room and what apartments that guys were in, and they hit that room in that apartment.

• 56:12Tom Ellsworth?

  You don't think Maduro knows that kind of technology is available to the entire West, especially the US?

• 56:17Speaker 04

  Of course.

• 56:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Of course he does. So Pat, this is a nervous guy who is saying the right things to the camera about a phone call with Trump, but is scared to death. But he's putting up a brave, you know, big dictator face in public. But behind closed doors, he is worried that his day could come tonight or tomorrow night. So he's moving around, trying to avoid getting hit. By the way, the last, you know, bit of the movie of, on Pablo, excuse me, the documentary Pablo Escobar, Pablo Escobar was doing the same thing. He was moving around, he was active, and finally he got found one morning. They identified him, and he tried to escape one safe house to another, and they shot him on the roof of the house. So you don't think Maduro's thinking that? That's what Maduro's thinking about.

• 57:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam?

• 57:03Adam Sosnick?

  I just want to know if there was a different alternative to what's going on. So obviously, we're fully supportive of drugs not pouring into our country. Criminals just running around. I'm just simply wondering, are there better approaches to just blowing up drug boats? Why aren't, you know, maritime, Navy, police officers rolling up and hijacking this? Like, is there a better alternative? I'm not questioning the motive. I fully support not having these people in our country or provide drugs. I'm just simply asking a question. Is there a better approach just to just blowing them up out of the water?

• 57:34Speaker 04

  Where they are, Adam, to send, to send stuff out there. And it's a, it's a huge military operation. Here's the thing, here's the deterrent.

• 57:40Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, but we have the number one military in the world, bro.

• 57:42Speaker 04

  Adam, are you ready for this? They've been warned. Don't bring your drugs to our shores. Period. International water, and they're speeding. What fishermen's driving 100 miles an hour? Like, what are we, what are we lying? This is, Adam, they're not playing games. They're not going to stop, pull them over, bring them here. Enough of it, because they're sending them all the time. Every day, there's another boat. Every single day, because, Adam, that's their money. That's their bread. It's Maduro. You know what I mean? All the freaking, all the nastiness that this guy's done in his freaking life, all the cartels, everything is drugs.

• 58:13Adam Sosnick?

  They're blowing them out of the water and they continue to send them?

• 58:14Speaker 04

  They keep sending them every day.

• 58:16Adam Sosnick?

  Do these people not hear, hey buddy, what happened to Hector and Juan and Carlos?

• 58:19Speaker 04

  Apparently, are you ready for this?

• 58:21Adam Sosnick?

  What about the other guys?

• 58:21Speaker 04

  Look at this video, Rob. Look at this video. They don't even have HD. They still don't have HD, bro. You think they're sitting there? They're not following the internet? Like, all the Venezuelans, if you have, you know, people, tell them to stop. You're going to get blown up. Period, Adam. And end of story. There is no.

• 58:37Adam Sosnick?

  So are you saying that, that the guys who take the next mission and the third mission?

• 58:41Speaker 04

  They're not listening. They're not on X.

• 58:43Adam Sosnick?

  No, no, they made it. It's okay, let's go, vamos, easy, easy. Yeah, tenemos las drogas, okay? And then they just boom?

• 58:48Speaker 04

  No, I think that they know. No, I think that they know.

• 58:50Adam Sosnick?

  They don't want to send the risk guys involved?

• 58:51Speaker 04

  They know, but they're like, hey, you know what? The cartels are saying, get your ass and go. Get your ass and go, because you might make it.

• 58:57Adam Sosnick?

  So they're mules and they're saying, listen, you're going to die one way or another. You're either going to stay in the country, we're going to kill you if you don't do this. Or afuera, you're going to go figure it out.

• 59:05Speaker 04

  How about, how about this, don't even man them, have a remote control boat. Well, I don't know. Well, don't give my ideas, buddy. Don't send, do something different, you moron.

• 59:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, okay, let's get to the next story here. Next story I want to go to is, uh, with, uh, Turning Point USA apparently eventually responds back to Candace. Rob, if you have that clip up there, there's a video that was going viral, I think, was it yesterday or the day before with them reacting? Uh, uh, uh, what, how long is that one, Rob?

• 59:31Speaker 11

  So this is, I have two clips. This is Blake Neff from Turning Point USA. The first one is him listing all of the different people that Candace Owens has claimed to have been involved in the assassination of Charlie Kirk. The second clip is the invitation for Candace to join them.

• 59:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it, let's see this.

• 59:48Patrick Bet-David?

  And, and by the way, can you pause it, Rob? Who is he first? Who, what, what senior role does he have? Is he a, is he a leader of the company? Is he a spokesperson? I've not seen him before, and I, I don't want to say, he may be very big in the TPUSA community, I don't know.

• 1:00:02Speaker 11

  Producer of the Charlie Kirk Show.

• 1:00:04Patrick Bet-David?

  He is the producer of the Charlie Kirk Show. Okay, so he, he's involved, go for it.

• 1:00:08Speaker 21

  A flood of allegations against people at Turning Point USA, people at Turning Point Action, and people who work for this show. She's made them against some of Charlie's closest friends and against some of his most dedicated employees. She has suggested that Michael McCoy, Charlie's chief of staff, knew Charlie would be murdered, was happy that he died, and stayed silent because he was told he would be the next Charlie. She has suggested Michael is not his real name, it is, I have seen his birth certificate myself. She has called it suspicious that Mikey's wife, who works at Turning Point, helped plan the campus tour event where Charlie was murdered, which she didn't, by the way, she doesn't work on campus events.

• 1:00:50Speaker 21

  Candace has suggested the Utah Valley University event was unusual and its details suggested a, quote, "inside job." She has claimed that foreign aircraft have followed Erica Kirk around the country and that Turning Point has lied about this happening. She has accused us of lying about Charlie wanting Erica to take over for him if he died. She has suggested Charlie's security team intentionally denied him first aid after the shooting to ensure that he died. She has raised suspicions about the head of our technical team because he took an SD card out of a camera. She has spread absurd claims that Tyler Boyer, who we just had on the show, sexually abuses male interns.

• 1:01:34Speaker 21

  She has suggested that TPUSA faith-affiliated pastors like theologian Frank Turek, who we'll have on in a moment, and Pastor Rob McCoy are part of a military-

• 1:01:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so he's going through, he's going through a, all the claims that Candace has made about TPUSA. Okay, if the folks have seen it, you've seen it, he keeps going through it. Okay, and Rob, what's this clip?

• 1:01:54Speaker 11

  This is a quick clip, this is 37 seconds, this is Blake inviting Candace to appear with the rest of the Charlie Kirk Show in Arizona in December.

• 1:02:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, go for it.

• 1:02:03Speaker 21

  Candace has mentioned several times that the ball is in our court. So, here's what is going to happen. In the near future, there will be a livestream here in Phoenix where we address in a clear and comprehensive way the claims and accusations, the false accusations, that have been made against Charlie's family, friends, and the people here at Turning Point. We plan to walk through everything carefully and thoroughly. If Candace is available, we would sincerely welcome her participation in that livestream at our studio here in Phoenix. At this point, we believe the ball is back in her court.

• 1:02:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so has she responded to it?

• 1:02:43Speaker 11

  She did. This is Candace Owens, after that was offered, here she is.

• 1:02:49Speaker 22

  No, but I cared about Charlie. Have you no shame? We're gonna find out. You can pick the place, you can pick the time, I say we do it tomorrow, we don't need to plan for this, we don't need lawyers in between us, lawyer statements, it's not how I roll, okay? I don't care about any of that, I want it to be authentic, like I said, you can take the money, you can, we can raise money live for this conversation, that is how badly the world is demanding it. So I accept it, with whistles and bells, everything, I fully accept. I say, let's do it tomorrow. Let's do it tomorrow. And my only ground rule is no assassinations. Okay? No assassinations, no funny business, you can't pretend you're gonna do it and then Candace died in a mysterious accident, okay? We'll be right back after a quick break.

• 1:03:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so she responds back to that, the no assassinations comment's kind of weird, but she responds back to it. What else do you have, Rob, here on what's been said?

• 1:03:43Speaker 11

  So then Blake Neff offers the Monday, December 15th at 4:00 PM offer to Candace. This comes at 1:21 in the morning. And then I have another tweet that I'll pull up right here. This is Candace Owens then stating that the invite didn't work.

• 1:04:00Patrick Bet-David?

  She's saying the invite didn't work?

• 1:04:02Speaker 11

  December 15th does not work in person in 2:00 PM Pacific time is also literally the time that I do my podcast live every day. We will happily cancel the daily podcast and will join you guys virtually instead of the live stream on the 15th. If that works on your end, let's lock it in. And then I have one final tweet. This is Blake saying that the invite is no longer on the table after Candace turned down the in-person interview.

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• 1:05:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so I'm not understanding. So she says anytime, any place.

• 1:05:32Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Then they say.

• 1:05:33Adam Sosnick?

  Wednesday.

• 1:05:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Wednesday, and then she says yes.

• 1:05:37Speaker 11

  She said, then she says, well, I can't do that. I'm shooting, but I could join you virtually. I can't be there in person. And then they respond with this saying, okay, well, we're now longer going to consider having you on the podcast since you can't appear in person.

• 1:05:50Patrick Bet-David?

  And then what did she say next? Anything else after, outside of that?

• 1:05:52Speaker 11

  I have not seen anything else. I believe there was a response she did last night. I'll look and see if I can find it.

• 1:05:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, all right. So Adam, your thoughts?

• 1:05:59Adam Sosnick?

  Well, a lot to unpack here. So let me just understand this. She spends the last three months questioning everything. Her entire brand for the last three months has been like, what the hell's going on with Charlie? What's going on here? I have questions. I have serious questions. And when I say I have questions, you know the type of questions that I have. I mean, you know. So anytime, anywhere, any place, I'm there for it. Okay, yeah, Candace, here's the date, the time, come on, I'm busy. You're busy. What do you have? Well, I have my podcast that day and time. Oh, you mean the podcast that you spent every single waking moment talking about Charlie Kirk, questioning everything we got going on?

• 1:06:42Adam Sosnick?

  You're trying to tell me that you can't come on our podcast to talk about what exactly you're talking about? This doesn't add up. It's kind of like two guys are about to go to a fight. It's like, bro, meet me in the park at 3 o'clock. 3 o'clock? You got it, bro. Meet you there. Okay, cool. See you there. All right. Yeah, dude, I actually had a prior engagement. Yeah, so move it. I really wish I could, man. I'm sorry. But hey, if you want me to sign in virtually, it just doesn't add up to me. It's kind of like you're calling the bluff.

• 1:07:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 1:07:12Adam Sosnick?

  Here's the biggest problem I have. If you give me 30 more seconds.

• 1:07:17Adam Sosnick?

  I don't know if you noticed over the last couple of days, Candace, former friend, I'd say, has not exactly been gratuitous. She put me on the cover of a thumbnail. I don't care. I can take the heat. My biggest question comes down to one word: friendship. Is this really what friends do?

• 1:07:38Adam Sosnick?

  When someone gets murdered, is this what your friend does? Because with friends like these, who needs enemies? So, a friend, you would support the grieving wife, not question her, okay? You would help build the company that you helped create, not try to destroy it. And the worst thing of all, you're trying to dismantle Charlie's legacy when you should be trying to defend it. If Charlie is looking down from heaven, and if there's an angel out there, it could be Saint Charlie. What do you think he would be saying to Candace at this point? "Thank you Candace, thank you for questioning my life, my wife, and my legacy. Thank you so much, great friend." So to me, that's what this comes down to.

• 1:08:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Benny.

• 1:08:17Speaker 04

  Well, Rob, did you find out what Tim Poole? Tim Poole went crazy.

• 1:08:21Adam Sosnick?

  He dismantled her.

• 1:08:22Speaker 04

  By the way, so did Nick Fuentes.

• 1:08:24Speaker 11

  I have both of those.

• 1:08:25Speaker 04

  Rob, Pat, you want to see like what?

• 1:08:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Tim Poole.

• 1:08:26Speaker 11

  I have a shorter version, because Tim was, um, Tim's was about five minutes, as was Nick Fuentes.

• 1:08:33Patrick Bet-David?

  You don't need to listen, let's just listen to the first minute of Tim Poole, go for it.

• 1:08:36Speaker 23

  What I care about is what is true, and what will help this country, and what works. And she is a fucking scumbag, okay? And she's getting worse every day. And she crossed the line. She continually crosses the line every day, insinuating the turning point literally killed the guy who made them all rich. And I have to, and I hear this in the streets, and I, at a certain point, I'm like, "Holy shit, we're gonna lose the midterms." "We're gonna lose the midterms, then we're gonna lose in 2028." And it's because she's a piece of shit. Because instead of saying, "Guys, let's come together and figure out how to work together," she says the stupidest retarded crap, and now everybody's running around divided and broken. For what reason? For literally what reason?

• 1:09:22Speaker 04

  So, Tim is not...

• 1:09:23Adam Sosnick?

  Because she wants to be the main character.

• 1:09:25Speaker 04

  Well, okay, but can we, uh, okay, so about the situation, um...

• 1:09:31Speaker 04

  By the way, do you have what Nick Fuentes had to say?

• 1:09:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's, go ahead, Vinny, and then we'll go to Nick.

• 1:09:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, well, okay, so, well, I, I agree. If you're, if you're gonna want the smoke, and they offer you to get the smoke, go get it. I don't get, date, time, candi-, you go, go, cuz you, she knows what she's doing. Bring your ass, sit there, and go after them. Because if you think about it, all this stuff, I, I am kind of weirded out, though. All this stuff that she's saying, is that not libelous, Tom? Like, can you sue if what you're saying is false, actually false?

• 1:10:00Adam Sosnick?

  Stay tuned on the next episode.

• 1:10:01Speaker 04

  Well, no, that's what I'm saying is, like, I, I, because, just like the, the book, The Real Dr. Fauci, where Fauci didn't sue RFK, and all that stuff was there. He couldn't, he could have sued him, but he didn't. But my thing is this, and we talked about this, guys, at the end of the day, Candace, what is her job? Her business is what?

• 1:10:19Adam Sosnick?

  Murder mystery?

• 1:10:20Speaker 04

  What's the number one? You talked to me about the, the, the, murder mystery, crime, true podcast. She gets how many, Robbie? Hundred and fifty, sixty some thousand? I'm not saying she doesn't care about Charlie, but a lot of this, I think, is, like, tomorrow, we're gonna get this. You might see this over there. This person said this, the angle is o- o- over this. And I get it, it's, people love that stuff. People love that. By the way, my favorite show, First Forty Eight, who did it? What's happening? What's over there? Oh, my God! It's a suspense thing. So, don't, at the end of the day, she's not stupid. This is a great business model for people that are like, oh, my God! Pat, was it Pat? Was it Tom? So, you gotta give credit where credit is due, but the same token, if somebody calls you out like that, then I get it.

• 1:11:03Speaker 04

  Family, four kids, business, you have the podcast. But when somebody says, yo, bring it, Candace, go bring it. Go sit down with them, and show them everything that you have, bring their receipts, and say that shit to their face. That's what I would do. That's, no, what do you mean, how what? Go in there and go sit where you said you were gonna sit. Sit in that chair.

• 1:11:21Adam Sosnick?

  Buddy, you know, listen, she is so talented.

• 1:11:22Speaker 04

  I know she is.

• 1:11:23Adam Sosnick?

  But you know she was never gonna show up to Turning Point, to their face, when they have all the answers, all the receipts, and she's gonna question them with what? A dream I had? Excuse me? Were you in my dream? No. So, I'll never say that Candace is stupid.

• 1:11:40Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you mean, a dream I had?

• 1:11:41Adam Sosnick?

  She said, she's dreaming out there. She's dreaming, she's seeing visions. This is beyond just normal. This is just Candace making stuff up. Candace has graduated from talking about cultural issues and politics to doing the Nancy Grace phenomenon murder mystery Scooby Doo. I would have gotten away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.

• 1:12:05Tom Ellsworth?

  I didn't like the assassination comment at the end, throwing that in at the end. It takes, kind of takes away from the argument she's trying to make and that kind of disappointed me to see that. Also, if Turning Point knew the times and presented something that was intentionally blocked, you know, on time and they knew it, as she said. Because we can all look at the schedules, she was and is normally on the air at that time. So that makes it look like, did you really want her to come or did you present a time that maybe was, was a little off?

• 1:12:39Adam Sosnick?

  Bro, she can postpone her show for this, stop it.

• 1:12:43Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, no, no.

• 1:12:43Speaker 04

  And livestream it as well.

• 1:12:44Adam Sosnick?

  But it's not kidding me?

• 1:12:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Look, if they want, if they want her there and they want to clear the air and they're going to present this long list.

• 1:12:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Didn't Rob just say that she said anytime, anyplace?

• 1:12:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, she did and the question is, you know, what does all that mean?

• 1:12:56Adam Sosnick?

  Anytime, anyplace, anywhere except for the.

• 1:13:00Tom Ellsworth?

  That's seem odd, I'm not taking sides there, it just, it does seem odd.

• 1:13:03Adam Sosnick?

  Take a side, take a side on it.

• 1:13:04Speaker 04

  Tommy, hold on, real question, you know the business.

• 1:13:06Adam Sosnick?

  I'm so sick of people not taking sides on this.

• 1:13:08Speaker 04

  You know the business, right? Couldn't she, can Candace livestream that the same time for her show?

• 1:13:13Adam Sosnick?

  The answer's yes, the answer's yes.

• 1:13:15Speaker 04

  Right?

• 1:13:15Adam Sosnick?

  Whatever the hell it is, the question is, the answer's yes.

• 1:13:17Speaker 04

  That would be 250,000 views.

• 1:13:18Adam Sosnick?

  She can do whatever she wants, she's her own boss now.

• 1:13:20Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, to me, if Candace can take a week off during Thanksgiving, she can take a day off and go do the show.

• 1:13:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Of course.

• 1:13:29Adam Sosnick?

  I want, and I want her to, I want to see it.

• 1:13:32Patrick Bet-David?

  I think the world wants this to stop.

• 1:13:35Tom Ellsworth?

  That's what I.

• 1:13:36Patrick Bet-David?

  That's what the world wants.

• 1:13:37Tom Ellsworth?

  That's my net, this isn't bringing people together, there's a core of the 10.

• 1:13:40Patrick Bet-David?

  The world wants this thing to stop, the world wants, Tom, for somebody who, you know.

• 1:13:47Patrick Bet-David?

  The world wants this to stop. The world wants this thing to be done. The world wants to move on with their lives. So if Candace wants it to be done, well then get to the bottom of it. Does it benefit for it to be done? Then that's a question. And you gotta ask that question. If it benefits to be done, great, let's move on. They're offering for you to go there. If for the last three months, someone's been talking about this only. What percentage of her show has been around this?

• 1:14:14Speaker 04

  Every show.

• 1:14:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Give me a percentage. What percentage of her shows has been on this topic?

• 1:14:18Speaker 04

  I think every episode's been about Charlie.

• 1:14:20Speaker 11

  Uh, yeah, my wife listens. I think it's been about 90% of her content has been Charlie. And then there's been some other stuff mixed in there. But a lot of it has been Charlie.

• 1:14:29Adam Sosnick?

  A little bit of Bridgette Macron.

• 1:14:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, where are you at with this? Where are you at?

• 1:14:33Speaker 11

  Uh, if you're gonna say any place, any time, then you have to show up any place, any time. You can't make that declaration and then not go. On the other hand, them issuing, hey, you have 24 hours to accept our invitation. And we send that invitation at 1:21 in the morning. I've worked in radio and podcasting.

• 1:14:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Invitation, is it 1:21? Like they gave her 24 hours from 1:21?

• 1:14:56Speaker 11

  They said, yeah, they said that they, well, she has until the end of tomorrow, uh, the end of today to give us the answer.

• 1:15:01Patrick Bet-David?

  That's a full day though. So it's not like they're not given a full day for it to decide.

• 1:15:04Speaker 11

  It's not a way that you invite someone. I can't imagine, it doesn't feel like an invitation to appear on a podcast. It feels more like an invitation to a hostage negotiation. Like, we've invited people to the podcast. It's not, you come now or don't come at all. That's not an invitation.

• 1:15:19Adam Sosnick?

  No, I, I, I, I respect it. I love Rob. You say the following words, any place, anywhere, anytime. That's the end of the discussion. You show up.

• 1:15:29Speaker 04

  Well, she did say, I'll come tomorrow.

• 1:15:31Adam Sosnick?

  Anywhere, anytime. Yeah, but except for these following dates and times. I also have a doctor's appointment. By the way, do you know where she was this two days ago?

• 1:15:39Speaker 11

  Dollywood was, according to reports, she was at Dollywood after the death threats had come through. I cannot find any verification of that other than, uh, people on the internet claiming that. And then she was also at.

• 1:15:49Adam Sosnick?

  She was at Tucker Carlson's Christmas party. Why would I know that? After everything I said about Tucker. Cause turns out I got a text from, and I'll show it to you. I won't show the name. Who's in this picture? Don't say the person. Candace and someone else, right?

• 1:16:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:03Adam Sosnick?

  Hey, I'm here with your friend.

• 1:16:06Adam Sosnick?

  That's a whoa. I go, say hello for me. She says hi too. Really? I go, great. Merry Christmas. I said, send her my regards. Meaning, I don't have beef with Candace. I don't, I don't. I have beef with what she's doing to her friend. And friends don't do this to one another. She's going to war against Charlie's wife and company and all his friends. That's like me saying, hey, PBD, thank you for everything, bro. I've been, I've known you since what year, PBD? 2012. But we started the podcast 2020. God forbid anything would happen, but God forbid. Could you imagine me attacking Jen, attacking value tainment? Attack, that is so disgusting to me.

• 1:16:51Adam Sosnick?

  Attacking the closest people to our leader. As if I should question ever what he has going on in his life. Hey, by the way, why would all these people, why are they around you? What's, why would you do value tainment? What are these receipts? How about you shut up? And respect the fact that a family, a company, a legacy is in mourning. How about that? But no, let me fuel the flames here, try to tear this down. Here's the point. There's builders in this world and there's destroyers. Both are equally talented, equally talented. Candace is a destroyer. She is so good with her words. She is so talented. She sees something, whether it's BLM, whether it's Israel, whether it's Charlie frickin Kirk and goes,

• 1:17:37Adam Sosnick?

  light the match, burn it down. And she's so good at it. And we'll see how she recovers from this. But is this what a friend would do? Not on my watch, homie.

• 1:17:48Speaker 04

  Benny. I mean, with the, you have to admit though, with the BLM and all that stuff and the George Floyd, she was right about that.

• 1:17:52Adam Sosnick?

  But that's the thing.

• 1:17:53Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:17:53Adam Sosnick?

  You could be right on some things.

• 1:17:54Speaker 04

  Of course.

• 1:17:55Adam Sosnick?

  And deathly wrong on another. And people are not nuanced or smart enough to be like, you know what? Candace is right on everything, everything.

• 1:18:04Speaker 04

  Well, again, no, I, no, I mean, those people are idiots because they're just blind.

• 1:18:07Adam Sosnick?

  Have you ever seen, this isn't wackos on the left. Calling out Candace, this is Tim Poole, this is Steven Crowder, did you hear the dismantling of what Nick Fuentes had to say? I mean, if there's anybody that maybe should be aligned, it's the Tucker Carlson, Nick Fuentes, Candace crew, Dave Smith. But here's what Nick Fuentes had to say, do you have that? How about this?

• 1:18:31Speaker 24

  ...afraid for her life, why was she at Tucker Carlson's Christmas party in Nashville last night? Why was she at Dollywood on Thanksgiving, the theme park? So allegedly, the French government and the Israeli intelligence have put a hit out on you, they've paid millions of dollars to kill you, but you're walking around a theme park in your town? You're walking around, for those that don't know, Dolly, what is it, Dollywood, Dollyland? It's like Dolly Parton's Disney World. You're walking around Disney World? You're walking around an amusement park in your hometown on the holiday weekend when allegedly everyone's trying to kill you?

• 1:19:13Speaker 24

  Then you go to a Christmas party with Tucker Carlson? In the same city, attended by hundreds of people, and people know you're gonna be there? With Tucker and all the base people in one room? But you can't go to Turning Point? Where everybody knows you're gonna be? And if anything happened to you, God forbid, they would immediately blame Turning Point? It doesn't even make any sense!

• 1:19:34Speaker 04

  And you know what my thing is?

• 1:19:35Adam Sosnick?

  And by the way, that was the nicest thing he had to say, do you have the real scathing clip, by the way?

• 1:19:39Speaker 04

  I can find that.

• 1:19:40Adam Sosnick?

  That was like, I sent it to you on Slack, by the way.

• 1:19:42Speaker 04

  Because at the end of the-

• 1:19:43Adam Sosnick?

  That was like, hey, let me give you some grace for a second. Nick Fuentes giving grace to Candace? But that was part A. I don't know if you can find part B? When he goes, "nuclear" on the lady?

• 1:19:55Speaker 04

  And here's the one thing, Adam, with everything that's going on, with all the Turning Point, with all the this, all the that, at the end of the day, the official narrative of the Tyler Robinson thing isn't, I'm not buying it in that sense, meaning, the real questions we should be asking is- The roof, the gun.

• 1:20:13Adam Sosnick?

  No, no, no, don't go there.

• 1:20:14Speaker 04

  No, what do you mean?

• 1:20:14Adam Sosnick?

  We're gonna get there. This isn't about the facts of the case. This is about her friendship relationship with Charlie and what they're doing.

• 1:20:21Speaker 04

  Can I make my point? My point, my point is, that's what everybody should be talking about.

• 1:20:25Adam Sosnick?

  I agree.

• 1:20:26Speaker 04

  Is, George Zinn, the guy that stood up, waved the white freaking handkerchief, like, "Look at me," so the killer could get away. Where is that guy? Where is the guy with the pedophile phone all of a sudden? Where is, by the way, the furry?

• 1:20:38Adam Sosnick?

  Robert, send me the clip, buddy.

• 1:20:39Speaker 04

  Tyler Robinson's furry boyfriend? Whatever. That guy's been missing, Adam, for almost two months, three months, since the shooting. He's been missing. Those are the questions. To put all this on Turning Point and say that this was a huge, that is a freaking stretch. My focus is, I hope they're trying to find out who the hell this guy is, if it was actually him, who helped him do it, who the George Zinn connection was, and if anything else. They still can't define a bullet, that magic bullet from JFK? Adam, me personally, and I know, we're not going there, a bullet, there's no magic bones in anybody's body that's gonna stop a 30 at 6. I'm sorry. That thing goes through deers, it goes through elk. Those are the questions we should be asking. That's the, that should be the main focus.

• 1:21:23Adam Sosnick?

  Here are more questions that Nick Fuentes has for Candace, if you don't mind.

• 1:21:29Speaker 24

  They're gonna do a livestream, they're gonna answer all the questions about Charlie Kirk. They invite her to show up. She says, "Challenge accepted. Name the time, name the place. We don't need to plan it out, let's just do it." They say, "Okay, December 15th." She goes, "Oh, but that's a bad day for me. I can't do it then. Can I Skype in? Can I Zoom?"

• 1:21:53Speaker 24

  Bitch. We can't, what are we doing here? I said it on Telegram, you actually just have to admire the audacity.

• 1:22:01Adam Sosnick?

  Total audacity.

• 1:22:02Speaker 24

  This woman has gone in every single day for three months, and she has dragged everybody, and like, every country? The wife, the friends, the company, the government, the FBI, Israel, France, Egypt. She's dragged everybody through this, whatever you wanna call it, this investigation. It's served up to her on a silver platter. "All right, Uncle, we give up."

• 1:22:35Speaker 24

  We're losing to disinformation and mass hysteria. You know, the open society is failing. Mass psychosis has taken hold over the nation. Fine, we'll do a livestream, we'll justify why we didn't kill our boss and you can ask us anything you want, just show up. And she goes, "I can't that day? Honestly, what else do you have going on? This is your job, you're a YouTuber." She acts like she's, like she's a wagee, like, "Oh, I gotta check with my boss." This is your job, this has been your obsession and crusade for three months.

• 1:23:16Adam Sosnick?

  I gotta give Candace credit, because it sounds like we're... Candace, respect to you. You want people knowing your name, saying your name? Bravo, you did it. I don't know if this is what you want them saying, but there's a famous phrase, "Don't care what you say about me, just spell my name right." Everyone's spelling your name right right now. Not sure if you want this smoke, but she signed up for it.

• 1:23:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so this is her responding. So it has been decided by the public that the best response for this is for me, for my team to livestream your livestream and provide commentary. Since you already picked our regular podcasting time, we look forward to providing live responses to your once and for all answers. So she's gonna livestream to their livestream?

• 1:23:57Adam Sosnick?

  Who gives a shit about another livestream to their livestream? Go show up and answer the questions, or ask them the tough questions.

• 1:24:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny, Tom, what do you think about this?

• 1:24:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, here's what I think. Tim Poole, I'm on Tim Poole's page, maybe with not that kind of fire and intensity and language.

• 1:24:12Adam Sosnick?

  He called her a scumbag?

• 1:24:13Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, no, no, no. But what Tim Poole said, you know, "In the middle of all this, we're not coming together, we're getting distracted. And we have got a lot of things to do." And you look at the polling data, there was a special election that the Republicans barely won the other day, which I think should be a big blinking light on the dash of what we need to do. And at a time where all these voices can be coming together about what we need to do as a country and where we need to go and the causes that we need to take, we're in the middle of this, this fire. And so, I'm with Vinny. Candace, if you have the receipts and everything, show up with the receipts. You said anytime, anyplace. Yeah, they sent something late, maybe it conflicted with that, but... Come together and do it. Sit down and do it. Nick Fontes is right. Nothing's gonna happen to you at Turning Point in their building with other people.

• 1:24:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Let's go do it. But let's get back to the focus.

• 1:25:01Adam Sosnick?

  PBD, maybe not even a Candace thing. Let me just... If you say, "PBD, oh, okay, yeah, anytime, anyplace, anywhere," you say those words. And then the other person, the debate, the challenger goes, "Yeah, sure. This date, this date, this date." Do not move mountains in your world to show up anytime, anyplace, anywhere. Whatever this case may be.

• 1:25:23Patrick Bet-David?

  If it's something that is pure conviction, anytime, anyplace. And it seems like this is pure conviction for Candace. Because if this is a thing that you're coming from a place of this level of conviction, then yes, take me anywhere, anytime, anyplace. Provide security. You know, you... We would fund security for Candace. We would send our team and, you know, maybe, you know, whoever she wants that... We would fund it to say, "Here's security, 20 people. What is it gonna cost? We'll fund it for you." Go there to feel safe. Because she's right, she needs to feel safe.

• 1:25:57Tom Ellsworth?

  She should.

• 1:25:58Patrick Bet-David?

  But at the same time, to me, if it's... If this is like, there's a part of me that's like, "Go with the Macron story, right? Go with the Macron story." Tom, what is that? Does that have to do with the story, or...?

• 1:26:16Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I was just...

• 1:26:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. So, go with the Macron story. So with the Macron story, there's a part of it that you're interested in the Macron story. Right? Where it's like, "I wanna know." Okay, let's keep going. I wanna know what's going on, how this thing's gonna end. But with Turning Point USA, guys, I don't know if you really...

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• 1:27:39Patrick Bet-David?

  You realize like without TPUSA, Trump doesn't win. I don't know if people are like thinking about it that way. Forget about all this feud and, "Oh my God, and what's going on? And I think I'm on her side, I'm on their side. It's not, she's this, she's a Scottish guy." Set all that stuff aside. If there's no Turning Point USA, Trump does not win in 2024. Perfect. If I'm the Democrats, if I'm Qatar, if I'm anybody that wants Democrats back in, dude, I have to dismantle Turning Point USA. And she's helping in that process. So now whether she's coming from a place of, you know, she's doing it because she's

• 1:28:23Patrick Bet-David?

  getting eyeballs, she's doing it because a dream she had with Charlie and Charlie told her this, whether it's because she's funded, whether it's because that's exactly what she believes, I don't care what those reasons are. Everybody has their own reasons for doing some things and sometimes it doesn't make sense to you and then it takes 10, 20 years to really learn the motive. It took us four years to realize what happened with the pipe bomber, right? The four, five years. Five years, yeah. Yeah, to realize what's going on with the pipe bomber. We may not know what's going on here for a long time, but what we do know is the following. Turning Point USA falls. Someone is replacing those kids being fed. And then who is that? Name me the second biggest Turning Point USA organization that you trust.

• 1:29:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Name me who you trust above Turning Point USA where the guy Charlie Kirk put it together. Then we have to, we have to make one of two things. Either Charlie Kirk was such a horrible leader that he picked people the wrong way, then we're questioning his character.

• 1:29:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Because you get judged for who you choose. Okay, and so Candace's argument is a turning point, you say is that bad? Then that's questioning his character. And his wherewithal to pick the right leadership team. On what to do with the company. Okay? So then if that's the direction you're gonna go. I don't know, I think long term, when you think about who's playing a positive role. On the right values and principles being passed down to the kids, as a man who's got four kids. I would put Charlie above everybody. I don't put anybody above Charlie Kirk. I don't know if I would put Tucker. Or Candace. Or who else, who else, none of those guys.

• 1:30:10Adam Sosnick?

  Nobody. They all came to his event.

• 1:30:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, no, what he was doing is, and I'm not even saying that they're not role models, or they are role models. That's not their brand. Their brand isn't grow up to be a great man, family man, all this stuff. Tucker is the one that's exposing and, you know, interviews and Candace is the one that's kinda like a little bit of crime and. You know, entertainment that she does, mystery, yeah. But to me. If you're somebody that has kids, you have young boys. What organization was helping raise young boys? I would come home at night. And I would see Dylan on his own. Watching a two hour debate of Charlie Kirk on pro-life, pro-choice, because he wanted to learn more about it, because somebody in school. Asked him the question, we lost that guy.

• 1:30:56Patrick Bet-David?

  He didn't curse, he didn't drop F bombs. He didn't say anything else. He was a great example. Okay, and he was a Christian guy. Family guy, go get married, have kids, make money, read books. Go read the stuff on Hillsdale, he was a good, likable guy. So. Either he is such a horrible leader. That he built a company of everybody backstabbing him. He was so oblivious and naive, which Charlie never gave me naive vibes.

• 1:31:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Or you're just, I don't, I, this other side is like, what? So, I don't know, because to me, I would, like, the way I see it is the following. Okay, I, I think Nick plays a role, Fuentes, I think Nick plays a role. Because I think Nick to me is Tupac. Nick's just gotta stay alive. And, and he's his own enemy. Nobody is a bigger enemy for Nick than Nick. And I don't think he has somebody he listens to, I don't think he has somebody he trusts that can give him that feedback, I don't think he's that guy. But I think he's, he plays a role. I think Tucker plays a role. I think, you know, um, a lot of these content creators, I think Crowder plays a role. I think, you know, Shapiro plays a role.

• 1:32:12Patrick Bet-David?

  I know it's like, yeah, I think, I think Michael Knowles plays a role, I think Matt Walsh plays a massive role. I think a lot of these guys play a role, but none of them played as big of a role as Charlie Kirk. And for me, you know, uh, uh, I, I, I would even be somebody that would sit there and say, I don't, I don't know if I agree with certain ways Erica handles herself with camera being on, and I've, I've said that, you know, some things with hand on the back of the head of J D Vance, and they just announced J D's gonna be speaking at Turning Point USA's Amphastement, which is great. But to me, it was Kirk, number one priority. T P USA as an organization, number two priority. What can we do to make sure this thing continues?

• 1:32:56Patrick Bet-David?

  And then who's running it? Who did this? Those questions are good questions, like, we can debate who should be the replacement, the board, the face, the podcast, all of that stuff, I think those are good questions to have. And those are things we should question, like, when, the day that Charlie Kirk got killed, we were talking about what happens with T P USA. Who's gonna be the guy that's gonna run it, or the gal that's gonna run it? Who's gonna be able to continue the legacy of what Charlie did? That was on my mind. And that's a valid, that's kind of like age, Steve Jobs died. Who's gonna continue the legacy of Apple? It's hard to replace Charlie. It is. There's a book called After Steve that I think everybody at TPUSA needs to read. It's called After Steve. The book is about after Steve Jobs.

• 1:33:38Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a phenomenal book for everybody at Turning Point USA to read this book. Everybody, because he was like a Steve of his space. Of course. So, this was a book that was written probably seven years ago. I don't, what year did it come out? Five, three years ago? Phenomenal book that they gotta read. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what's going on over here. And if America matters, if the future of our kids staying responsible, good citizens matter, if all of those things are important, you know, we have to highlight what organizations do that. Because it's not an easy thing to do. It is very hard to build a Turning Point USA.

• 1:34:19Patrick Bet-David?

  But it's even harder to continue that company after the face of the company dies. It's very hard. You know why it's very hard? Because everybody at TPUSA right now that's working there, guess who everybody's being compared to? Who do you think? 24/7, bro. Of course. No one's gonna char, no one's gonna char, no one's gonna Charlie. And you know how sometimes like a father, like you know, I had Reza Pahlavi here, who I've been very critical of him the last six months. Mohamed Reza Pahlavi. And I sat him down the first time. And I said, you know, do you feel like there's some unnecessary pressure? Do you even want this job? And you could tell for the first time in his life, on camera, he said, "Yeah, it's a lot of pressure. No, I don't want it." I said, "Maybe you don't want this job."

• 1:35:02Patrick Bet-David?

  And he later said, "No, I'm gonna come in." What is the pressure, everyone? "Well, you're not your father." "Well, you're not your father." "Well, you're not your father." "Well, you're not your grandfather." "Well, shut the..." You know, like, you sound like... Leave me the hell alone. Everybody at TPUSA right now said, "Well, you're not Charlie. Well, you're not Charlie. Well, you're not Charlie." "No shit, Sherlock. I know I'm not Charlie." "But I'm trying to do my best to continue the guy's legacy." "Can you stop doing that?" They have a lot of pressure on... And if I have to sit there and see who to me seems more reasonable? Who to me seems more... I don't know. And, and, and, uh, yeah, I don't know. And listen, I don't want, even my own enemies.

• 1:35:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, even my own enemies. I'm not, I'm not intimidated by enemies to have. I'm not intimidated by people who agree or disagree. It doesn't do some, it doesn't do a lot for me. I'm not a guy that sits on X and reacts to everybody that says negative things about me. I have fun with it. Hey, Manect this. Hey, thank you for the marketing. Boom. We have a massive download day of the apps yesterday and it's like, you know, you, you guys are scheduled, yeah, like right here. I cannot believe, seriously, who is paying for this? What is this? Forty-eight thousand dollars per minute for thirty minutes? Uh, uh, and I'm not even forty-eight thousand dollars for thirty minutes. It's on Manect is forty-eight per hour. But I said, thank you for promoting the Manect app. I've gotten multiple calls due to your marketing efforts. You're the best, right? We'll have, we'll have fun with this because we believe Manect is a way for you to get a hold of people.

• 1:36:29Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, I, I don't know if people even know, we get, I get paid three fifty to a half a million dollars for speaking gigs. Yeah, I don't want to be a speaker. I don't want to go on the tour. I don't want to go on the circuit. But we do two, three a year and if it's something that we want to build a relationship, we'll entertain it. It's not something we want to do. We run in companies, but going back to it with what's going on here. Um, if Candace is that confident with all the research and everything, yes, go face off, have the conversation, finish it off. And by the way, you know what I would actually, you know, what, what I would actually do if I'm TPUSA? I would actually encourage Candace to come with somebody.

• 1:37:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Like bring someone with you. So let's just say Candace wants to bring a lawyer or another person that's in or whatever it is. Have her bring somebody else as well, because if it's going to be team and team, and let them have the conversation. But according to what we just said right now, it's not going to be happening because she's just going to be live streaming and reacting to it.

• 1:37:29Adam Sosnick?

  Or they could just change the date and say, oh, okay, you want to, you want to play this game? Want to not be available or tell us the day you're available? We'll change our calendar. How about that? My assumption is she does not show up. Cause how could she? She doesn't have the receipts?

• 1:37:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think if she says any day, anytime, TPUSA changes it? Says any day, any, anytime in the next two weeks, you pick the time and date. You think she says yes?

• 1:37:55Adam Sosnick?

  What does any day, anytime, anywhere even mean?

• 1:37:58Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no, no, no. You didn't hear what I said.

• 1:37:59Adam Sosnick?

  Sure.

• 1:38:00Patrick Bet-David?

  TPUSA goes back and says, okay Candace.

• 1:38:05Patrick Bet-David?

  We're willing to do it anytime here in Arizona, pick in shoes in the next two weeks. Pick the date and the time, we'll give it to you. Do you think she says yes?

• 1:38:15Speaker 04

  I think so.

• 1:38:16Adam Sosnick?

  I think.

• 1:38:16Speaker 04

  I think she would. Or else it's over for her.

• 1:38:19Tom Ellsworth?

  I think she has to, right?

• 1:38:21Adam Sosnick?

  At that point, they're forcing her hand.

• 1:38:23Speaker 04

  If you give a two-week window, that's a 1,000% you have to do.

• 1:38:26Adam Sosnick?

  If you say anytime, anywhere, and we say, alright, you pick the date, and you don't honor that, your credibility.

• 1:38:35Speaker 04

  What do you think, Tom?

• 1:38:36Tom Ellsworth?

  I agree with that. If they came back and they say, okay, anytime, anyplace, then she's got to pick it, and she's got to show.

• 1:38:42Patrick Bet-David?

  So this kind of goes into this one, something that happened to us last week. So I get a call on a Saturday. We're going to dinner. I think we're going to Eddie V's or something. We were going to dinner. And I get a call from this guy named Eddie, who's a nice guy. He's coming here. I've been on the show before. He's a Muslim guy, runs a YouTube channel, good-sized YouTube channel.

• 1:38:59Speaker 04

  Nice guy.

• 1:38:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Million-plus subs. And bring him over to the house. We sit down, we have a conversation together. And he tells me about, you know, his beliefs, and he meets my chef. We cook him a meal. We had a good conversation. And then all of a sudden, he says, hey, I saw Sam Shimon on your podcast. I'm here with a guy named Uthman, if I'm saying the name correctly. He would like to come on, since you had him on, he'd like to come on and have a conversation. I said, okay, so let me call Sam and see what I can do. So I call Sam Shimon. Sam says, absolutely, but he says, there's no way they're gonna do it. He's gonna cancel if they find out I'm coming. And then he says, but why don't you tell them if Eddie

• 1:39:42Patrick Bet-David?

  and Uthman are coming, let me bring a guy named Avery. I don't know who Avery is. Vinnie automatically says, I know Avery.

• 1:39:49Speaker 04

  He's a beast.

• 1:39:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. And Vinnie says, I know Avery. And then this guy says this, and this is when I had to call Eddie. And then, by the way, they're like, then I get on a call. It's me, you, him, and Eddie. And when he found out it's Eddie and Avery, he's like, well, why don't we just do it, me and you? And, you know, why don't we just, I said, no, if you're gonna have a debate, because it started off with Sam. I already called Sam. Sam already agreed. I'm gonna fly him out. Uh, uh, uh, let's, let's have the conversation. No, well, I have to fly out anyways. Well, I said, if I would have changed you, you would have came. But I have to fly. Well, let's just do it another time. And then the next day, this video is played. And I call Eddie, Rob, if you want to play this clip.

• 1:40:29Speaker 25

  What are PB and D, whatever he is, right?

• 1:40:31Speaker 26

  Yeah.

• 1:40:31Speaker 25

  Let's, let's call you out right now, right? Somebody send this video to him. If you're honest, then bring Emran, me, anybody else, any Muslim die, and give us the same time, the same way, by ourselves, on your platform.

• 1:40:50Speaker 27

  He won't do it, right?

• 1:40:51Speaker 25

  And me and Eddie were supposed to go on there against two, whoever he picks. And he backed up.

• 1:40:58Patrick Bet-David?

  He backed up, liar.

• 1:41:00Speaker 25

  Of having me, because he was saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:41:06Speaker 27

  But then, yeah, then another brother went on with Eddie, right?

• 1:41:09Speaker 25

  And then like we go on, two other brothers go on. Daniel and Jake went on, right? But the reason originally that they didn't want me on is because they said, you cannot attack them. If they're gonna attack you, you're just gonna answer, right?

• 1:41:21Patrick Bet-David?

  You can't. So I said, so you can pause right there. So, so, wait, wait a minute. That I can't attack, you can't attack them, they can attack you. That's what he just said.

• 1:41:29Speaker 25

  Yes.

• 1:41:30Patrick Bet-David?

  So, I, I don't even know that who this guy is at the time. I've seen the face because I've seen the clips, but I don't know the name. So, I see this video and I call Eddie. And he's like, you know, where are you? Well, I said, listen, FaceTime. Who's with you? Me and Vinnie. No problem. I said, I want to get your take on this. I said, this interview that we did with this guy. I said, he just, oh, no, no, Patrick, but that was a week ago. That's not a new interview. That's, I said, okay, great. But I want you to listen to what he said. For you to know why we can never do anything together. Cause I don't do games. And then I played for him. When I played for Eddie, it's FaceTime, you're sitting right next to me. How long was this pause?

• 1:42:12Patrick Bet-David?

  When I say, did we ever say that he can't say? Go back 10 seconds, Rob, if you don't mind?

• 1:42:18Speaker 25

  And by the way, horrible editing, horrible.

• 1:42:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Horrible editing.

• 1:42:21Speaker 25

  Why would you play the music that loud?

• 1:42:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Pause right there, Rob, pause right there.

• 1:42:24Speaker 04

  To drown out the lies? Exactly.

• 1:42:27Speaker 25

  Eddie didn't actually go on, two other brothers go on. Daniel and Jake went on. Right? But the reason originally that they didn't want me on is because they said, you cannot attack them. If they're gonna attack you, you're just gonna answer.

• 1:42:39Patrick Bet-David?

  So that's what you call a liar?

• 1:42:40Speaker 04

  That's a liar.

• 1:42:41Patrick Bet-David?

  When I have Eddie, watch this, I said, Eddie, is that true?

• 1:42:47Speaker 04

  And he said, no.

• 1:42:48Patrick Bet-David?

  I said, Eddie, is that true? Five seconds, he's looking.

• 1:42:50Speaker 04

  Yeah, he's waiting.

• 1:42:51Patrick Bet-David?

  He says, no, that's not true. I said, I will never have this guy on here, because I don't play those games. You're gonna go out and question our character that we said something like that? You're a liar. And I was willing to have him on to sit down and talk to Sam and Avery. I don't know why he's scared of Avery and Sam.

• 1:43:05Speaker 04

  You know why?

• 1:43:06Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know why.

• 1:43:06Speaker 04

  Petrified.

• 1:43:07Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't, I don't, I've never, I've never talked to Avery.

• 1:43:09Speaker 04

  And I'll tell you right now. Oh, and I'll tell you right now, Avery and Sam.

• 1:43:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:43:12Speaker 04

  Sitting here, or sitting there, again, with that guy, and bring another, bring a third person, everybody will let you talk, you will be destroyed, and they're scared. And they're scared, Patrick. Petrified, because why, if you're, if you're gonna talk the talk, if you're gonna talk the talk, bring it. If you know, if you're that knowledgeable in the Quran, in the Muslim world, in Islam, come and sit with two Christians, with Sam and Avery, because they know at the end of the day, they're going to destroy them. Because when you mention stuff like, like I mentioned about calling for non-believers to die, and they'll, they're gonna come up with an excuse, even though, and let me just say this right quick, Quran 47:4, when you meet the disbelievers in battle, strike them

• 1:43:57Speaker 04

  in the neck until you have subdued them. It's calling for violence against, I could, I have a list, Tom, number one, and I got into an argument with a guy on, on my neck, when I said, the Prophet Muhammad was, Aisha was, met her at six, had sex with her at nine, there's no, how are you gonna defend that? How can you?

• 1:44:15Patrick Bet-David?

  The argument they make is, but at that time, that was not considered pedophilia.

• 1:44:18Speaker 04

  Guess what? Then why wasn't Jesus Christ doing it? Why, why weren't, why weren't those people, why weren't the disciples, why were people there doing it? That's a horrible, horrible excuse, because sleeping with a nine-year-old, I don't care what time it was, it's wrong. So going back to the point, there's no, Pat, when you know you're gonna get, when you know you're gonna fight Mike Tyson, guess what you do? No, no, he lied. No, no, no, you lied. Pull a muscle in training. Yeah, yeah, no, no, they, they'll get destroyed, because if you're so, like... Believing in your motive and your Islam and everything, then go and sit with them. And we'll let, by the way, like we were gonna tell them, no, no, you can't talk. Just let the Christian guys, no, that's such a lie and it's such a, sorry, pussy way to freaking try to be like, no,

• 1:45:00Speaker 04

  it was Pat. Like you would ever do that. Like they can argue, you can't argue. Like who, who's gonna believe that? With your 1600 views on next. Don't, don't play that game with us, bro. You're scared. You're petrified to sit with Sam and Avery because they know the truth and they're gonna destroy you. So, and you missed your opportunity.

• 1:45:18Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know why they shiver with Sam.

• 1:45:21Speaker 04

  I don't get it. Is it because he knows their book Inside and Out?

• 1:45:25Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know. I don't know why they shiver with Avery. I don't know why they do.

• 1:45:27Speaker 04

  Oh, man.

• 1:45:29Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, I don't know. I don't know why they do. And by the way, Mohammed Hijab responded to Sam Shimon being on the podcast and he said, tomorrow night, Tuesday, he gave him like 24 hours and then Sam's like, I'll do the debate, but not tomorrow night. So, maybe, maybe Mohammed Hijab, who's a very heavyweight, very educated guy, PhD background, very well read, maybe he would be willing to sit down with Sam and have the conversation at a time that works for both people's calendars. We've invited him before as well. But I was very disappointed on the way he handled himself, especially when he said the word that we said you can come. And if you believe him, the fact that we would say something like that, you're, you deserve exactly what you're getting.

• 1:46:07Adam Sosnick?

  That's the point that I, I, I wasn't there for this phone call, so I'm not even gonna participate. I saw this on this. I believe it, I believe it. But the, the fact that you, that you would even preface, yeah, you have to sit there and take them arguing at you and you just have to smile, is so antithetical to everything that you've ever done in the history of this podcast. You believe in debate. What are our four core principles? Capitalism, leadership, debate?

• 1:46:32Speaker 04

  Yup.

• 1:46:33Adam Sosnick?

  And entrepreneurship? Is that not us?

• 1:46:35Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:46:35Adam Sosnick?

  So don't we encourage debate? So this, this spewing of lies like, yes, you invited me on, but I have to sit there, take it like a punching.

• 1:46:43Speaker 04

  Who would sit?

• 1:46:43Adam Sosnick?

  Nobody, that's such a dumb.

• 1:46:45Speaker 04

  Think about, think about how, just on its surface, how stupid is that? Hey, listen. So they're gonna be able to say their points, but when you talk, shut up and we're gonna stop you because you can't fight. Who, who has ever said? Said that in a debate, or like as a setup. Does that sound like any normal person would do? It's a lie.

• 1:47:02Adam Sosnick?

  This is a couple of different stories now of what you call like fake tough guys. Oh yeah, anytime, anywhere, anyplace? Yeah, sorry, I'm actually busy that day.

• 1:47:10Speaker 04

  Bring it, like bring it.

• 1:47:11Adam Sosnick?

  So Candace, God bless, whether it's these hijab crew, whatever they got going on, they're bluff artists. They're all bark, no bite. Oh yeah, this is the date. Yeah, dude, I actually have a doctor's appointment that day. My bad, bro. So they talk like lions, but they're paper tigers.

• 1:47:26Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, let's go to the next story here, Rob. If you want to play the Ilhan Omar.

• 1:47:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Ilhan Omar says Trump supporters might attack Somalis. That's what she said here to Jake Tapper, who called her a white woman, probably. Go ahead.

• 1:47:46Speaker 09

  Practical effect on the Somali community when the president says things like that.

• 1:47:50Speaker 28

  I mean, it creates fear. And there is a possible danger that a lot of the people who follow the president have exhibited violence in many cases, especially in my case. Whenever he has said something about me that is derogatory or says I'm a threat to the country. I have gotten death threats. There are so many people that have been incarcerated over the years that have been encouraged by the president's words. And so there is fear for Somalis, not just in Minnesota, but across the country, that some of these people might attack and harm them.

• 1:48:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Vinnie, thoughts?

• 1:48:31Speaker 04

  Well, one of the guys caught, well, first of all, I'm going to get to the part of me just not being happy with what bothers me the most about this entire Minnesota Somali and fraud terrorist Ilhan Omar Waltz, the mayor. Rob, if you could find that video of the mayor eating food in a restaurant with them to show how much he loves Somalis. He looks like he's going to throw up because he's playing with the food and trying to bury it. And he's like, oh, he's that, one of the biggest beta males bowing at George Floyd's casket, speaking and worshiping them because in my opinion, they're ill. By the way, Pat, this is him eating at a Somali restaurant. Does he look like he's enjoying this meal? Play this video. Look, mm.

• 1:49:13Speaker 04

  Look at this, the other guy on the right is like, "You don't know what you're eating, there's probably bugs in there." Look at this guy. Look, he's playing with it, burying it. You're not eating that, bro.

• 1:49:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Is he a white guy?

• 1:49:21Speaker 04

  He's white.

• 1:49:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, he's-

• 1:49:23Speaker 04

  A real one. Wait. Jacob Frey. Jacob Frey.

• 1:49:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Is he really white?

• 1:49:26Speaker 04

  He's white, white.

• 1:49:27Patrick Bet-David?

  He's not Muslim?

• 1:49:28Speaker 04

  No, he's a huwa, huwa. He's white, white.

• 1:49:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Stop it.

• 1:49:32Speaker 04

  I'm dead serious. He's the one that tried to speak Somali to them. He pandas.

• 1:49:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you doing a Jake Tapper thing, or?

• 1:49:40Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, no, no, no. This is the guy from the Democratic Party up there-

• 1:49:43Speaker 04

  He has a mask on as well.

• 1:49:44Tom Ellsworth?

  Whose job, Pat, is to work with the Muslim community, specifically the Somali community, and to ensure that they vote Democrat. That's his job. So what he's been doing, Pat, is out there pandering, trying to talk Somali, going to photo ops like this, eating their food at cultural events. And guess what? There are people that have worked with him and said, "What we ended up with was far worse." They know about the fraud. They know about what's going on in the insurance frauds. And they're like, "Hey, we befriended these people. We went to get their votes and everything, and now suddenly we're implicated because we're photographed with them and we're places with them on what's going on." But that's his job. He's a Democrat operative who is like the ambassador to Somali. Go get those votes.

• 1:50:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so let me read this and I'm gonna come to you, Tom. So what did Omar, Ilhan Omar, know about the billionaire welfare fraud case in her Minnesota district? Rob, this is a New York Post. Is this, she's being asked about it?

• 1:50:37Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 1:50:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, go for it.

• 1:50:38Speaker 09

  ...light on why the fraud got so out of control in Minnesota?

• 1:50:44Speaker 28

  Um, I think what happened is that, you know, when you have these kind of new programs that are designed to help people, you're oftentimes relying on third parties to be able to facilitate. And I just think that a lot of the COVID programs that were set up, they were set up so quickly that a lot of the guardrails did not get created.

• 1:51:09Speaker 04

  She's blaming the guardrails.

• 1:51:11Tom Ellsworth?

  And they're new.

• 1:51:11Speaker 04

  Not being set up for the billion dollar fraud that happened there. Can you, like, can you wrap that around your mind? Pat, and by the way, one of the men that was caught in the feeding our future best was a Somali restaurant owner named Abdifata Ahmed. He's a, he ran Safari Restaurant Minneapolis. Uh, the spot claimed that they were feeding thousands of kids every single day. The numbers were so wild, Pat, like if it showed up, people would be stacked, like, you wouldn't be able to fit in the room. So investigators said that the restaurant pulled in millions through the program. Uh, and almost all of it was fake. The money was pushed through friends, family, shell companies, luxury purchases, and, and overseas accounts. And as we're finding out, so some of these, uh, terrorist groups.

• 1:51:51Speaker 04

  So if you think about it, all these people, everybody that's involved, Tom, what bothers me the most, and I'm, and I, and I know you want, you have a lot to say about this topic, uh, is these people, you're coming from a third world country, okay? And the fact that you're being ungrateful to the greatest country in the world that's bringing your ass here, and you don't show up, you don't speak the language, you don't assimilate, all you do is bash the country that you, that is opening its doors to you. You bash the president, you bash, you bash the followers who are us, okay? And then you steal a billion dollars and then you're gonna sit there and be like, well, you guys should have set up the guardrails. No, no, no, and I love, listen, the old Trump was back when he's like, no, it's garbage. They're coming from a country that doesn't have any freaking government.

• 1:52:35Speaker 04

  And you're gonna come here, show some gratitude. And I said this before the podcast started. You know what, Ilhan, and your whole freaking Tim Walz and all these people? If you'd shut your mouth about the president and you didn't talk all the crap that you've been talking for all these years, you mi- it might have slipped under the cracks. But you keep talking at the freaking, the beast, and guess what? The beast turns around and looks at you. And now I, I hope to God, they have all these people that get accountable. And I have a feeling she's involved, Tim Walz is involved, and Mr. Eating the Bowl of whatever bugs that he was eating, he's involved.

• 1:53:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Tom, so, uh, Joseph Thompson is the US Attorney for Minnesota. And he's been fading, facing an uphill fight. He's been faced with obfuscation, people refusing to cooperate. But this is so widespread, and by the way, they're covering for each other. People are covering for each other. But it's been so widespread. Just in September, he got eight defendants who took 400,000 each of a skim from a payout account that started at 21 million in 21 and went to 104 million in 24, based on qualifications. Now, what a qualification is, is kids with autism. Well, the Somali community and the ones that he found within that community were paying

• 1:53:46Tom Ellsworth?

  small amounts of money to people to enroll their kids as autistic in it. And then they set up a legal address of the clinic. But then they covered the windows with newspaper and silver foil. And there was no clinic going on in there. But they had the enrollments of actual humans, actual kids. And then they were getting an amount per kid coming in from the state and indirectly the US federal government. Make sense? So, oh yeah, there's 400 kids in here and the money's just flowing into this address, but it's not there. And so Joseph Thompson's been fighting this uphill fight. He then got a 24-year-old defendant late this summer, 900,000 in fraud proceeds, that some of it went to the Maldives and some of it went for a $64,000 Dodge Ram pickup

• 1:54:31Tom Ellsworth?

  that he got for himself. Because, you know, he's stealing all this money, he needs a pickup to carry it around.

• 1:54:35Speaker 04

  Of course.

• 1:54:36Tom Ellsworth?

  And then Minnesota House Speaker Lisa Demuth, who is a Republican and like the last standing Republican in the Minnesota House, not federal, but Minnesota House, she said, "Numbers we're seeing says that this billion is just the tip of the iceberg because of all the programs that are involved." And some of these programs were not emergency stood up under COVID. They predated COVID. So Omar talking about, "Well, they're new programs and guardrails aren't in place." That blames the program, but what's really happening is this is systemic. This is systemic. We don't want to, we don't want to just wave off all Somalis in Minnesota. But there is a large number of them that are collaborating together, basically as

• 1:55:20Tom Ellsworth?

  their own organized crime Somali mafia that is skimming from our federal government. And you've got this, this, this poor, you know, US attorney from Minnesota, Joseph Thompson, who's up there trying to fight it and then pointing out, "We just think this is the beginning."

• 1:55:37Speaker 04

  So they have pirates in the water that take over ships and then they have fraudsters on land taking billions of dollars from taxpayers and then they talk shit about the country that let their asses in and they want to assimilate.

• 1:55:48Tom Ellsworth?

  And it's so bad they are getting prosecutions even though they don't get witness cooperation.

• 1:55:52Speaker 04

  Weird. And then they marry their brother. Okay, for citizenship. Got it. Okay, everything I need to know. That's it.

• 1:55:59Adam Sosnick?

  Tom, that was a very good breakdown. I'm gonna try to simplify this and maybe you guys will even find that Adam has a point here. Here's the question in mind. If there was an election and you, there was a binary option. This is it. This is it, guys. You have Donald Trump or you have Ilhan Omar. Your answer to that question tells us all we need to know of who you are. If you happen to choose Ilhan Omar, we got it.

• 1:56:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, let me tell you who Ben Stiller picked. Can you pull up who Ben Stiller picked? Here's what Ben Stiller said. Ben Stiller, Tropic Thunder, okay? Mr., what was the gym called, Rob? The, the...

• 1:56:38Speaker 04

  Globo Gym.

• 1:56:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Globo Gym? Here's what he had to say. Somalis are not garbage. Immigrants and refugees from anywhere are people like you and me. They should not be demonized. This country is built on the backs of people who have come from other places. It's what our country is all about. Blue heart.

• 1:56:57Adam Sosnick?

  Sure. Well, Ben Stiller, respect to you. Let me give you a counterargument. Not all immigrants are the same. Okay, not, you know, your Italian guy who came here to have a better life or your Irish immigrant or your Jewish immigrant that came or even a Mexican immigrant. It's a little bit different than Somalis who come here on fraud and fake paperwork and marry whoever and then send the number one disbursements to Al-Shabaab in the world, which is the terror organization. It's a little bit different, guy. So, back to my earlier argument about Donald Trump versus Ilhan Omar. The example couldn't be more stark. One is America first, one is Somalia first, legit.

• 1:57:41Adam Sosnick?

  One is a conservative, one is a progressive Islamist. That's pretty obvious at this point. One loves capitalism, one loves socialism. Okay, one marries supermodels, one allegedly marries a brother. Good for you. One genuinely loves America and wants to make America great again. One is doing this to the benefit of Somalis. So to me, it's not even close. It's not even close.

• 1:58:03Speaker 04

  And guess what? Have you been to Somalia? It is garbage. And let's be honest, how many people do you know?

• 1:58:09Adam Sosnick?

  No, but I've been to Minnesota.

• 1:58:10Speaker 04

  I'm going on vacation. Where are you going? Somalia.

• 1:58:13Adam Sosnick?

  No, of course not.

• 1:58:14Speaker 04

  And guess what? And this is what pisses me off. My mom and dad, my grandparents, his father, the whole crew. We came here the right way. We came, they all learned freaking English. It wasn't the best English, but they learned the language. They assimilated, they fit in with the community, they gave back, they paid taxes. We went to school and we, look what the byproduct is. Look what the byproduct is. You're gonna come here and take it and steal, bro, and steal and scam us? And then, that's what infuriates me. Have some gratitude. You, oh my god.

• 1:58:45Patrick Bet-David?

  4,000 people voted. Watch this. Did Ilhan Omar know about the Minneapolis fraudulent fund?

• 1:58:51Speaker 04

  Almost 60%.

• 1:58:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, she knew 58%. But watch the rest. Yes, she was complicit. Yes, she was involved. 4% said no.

• 1:58:59Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:58:59Patrick Bet-David?

  96% said that she knew she was complicit and she was involved.

• 1:59:04Speaker 04

  There's, it's almost unbelievable to even fathom that she did it. Because think about it. Who knows the connections with the donors in this and keep you in?

• 1:59:13Tom Ellsworth?

  What was that word?

• 1:59:14Speaker 04

  The donors?

• 1:59:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Donors to a campaign.

• 1:59:18Speaker 04

  Oh, easy, Tom.

• 1:59:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Let's just wait, baby.

• 1:59:20Adam Sosnick?

  Can I give some free, unsolicited advice to the Ilhan Omars of the world?

• 1:59:25Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:59:25Adam Sosnick?

  And the Rashida Tlaibs and the Gomoronis? And like the entire Free Palestine Islamist group? This is free advice, unsolicited advice.

• 1:59:34Speaker 04

  At least fake it.

• 1:59:36Adam Sosnick?

  At least fake that you love America. At least bring an American flag to a rally. Maybe you don't burn the American flag. Maybe you learn a little habla ingles. Maybe you fake that you love it here in America. Maybe you don't like have a rally, put on a fake hijab, put on the kaffiyah, burn the American flag. Maybe you don't like blatantly hate America, maybe.

• 2:00:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 2:00:03Adam Sosnick?

  Maybe you're like, you know what, guys? I think they're on to us. All this death to America, death to Satan, burn the flag. Maybe we, uh, we oversold our hand here. Maybe we fake it. But they can't even do that.

• 2:00:19Tom Ellsworth?

  She could have answered that question. You know, I think you're speaking about a few people that may have manipulated a federal program and those people need to be brought to justice. The Somali's that are in Minnesota, they appreciate the assistance they're giving at this time of their life. They appreciate it and they should follow the program as written. And I understand what you're trying to say, but I think to, and then go after it, say, to, to push on all the people is wrong headed. The people that have done wrong need to face justice, but these programs are helping people that need it. That's all you have to say to fake it to your point.

• 2:00:49Adam Sosnick?

  Hey, listen, we are so grateful for America to take us in. We're so happy to be here. This is the greatest country in the world. We love it here. We want to assimilate, we want to be a part of this. Instead, scur, you hear, America is a white colonizer racist. This is, it's a 1619 project, everything about America. It's like, then why? Go back to Somalia, homegirl.

• 2:01:08Speaker 04

  They don't even hide the attitude of we're, we're here. We're like Wajahat and all these people are like, what are you gonna do?

• 2:01:13Adam Sosnick?

  We're here, we're queer, have no fear.

• 2:01:15Speaker 04

  And guess what? If you are in the Muslim community, and guess what? I have, we have Muslim friends. We're not, we're not gonna play that game. But you know what? What type of look is it when people, this is your opportunity? You come to America, you go to freaking Minnesota. Let's, let's see how the Muslim community is gonna treat that, that place. You're not speaking English. You're stealing money. You're sending it to fucking terrorists. Like what, what are you doing? And then you wonder why people are kind of scared. Like, wait a minute, but these people are taking over towns. They're taking, they're buying mosques in Texas. Oh, really? Look at England, look over the pond and they're. content creators, their peers, they can't even admit what's going on. They, and what I, what do we get into the fricking Pakistani rape gangs, which I, it's disgusting.

• 2:01:54Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, there's a, there's a clip, uh, Pierce Morgan with this lady that's on their podcast, on this podcast. And they're going back and forth, Rob. I don't know if you have this clip or not. It gets pretty heated. I mean, it gets to the point that Pierce was, you know, said, I will never invite you back on and blocked her, I believe, afterwards. I don't know if you heard about this or not. Yeah, he blocked her afterwards and she posted it saying that I got blocked by him. Uh, and they had a massive, massive exchange that went back and forth. Rob, I don't know if you have the, the highlight, there's, there's a.

• 2:02:25Speaker 04

  That one above, Robbie, was a good one.

• 2:02:27Patrick Bet-David?

  I think this is the one, Rob. Okay, I'm gonna send this one to you, Rob. If you wanna look at your text, this is the one to play. And, uh, uh, right there, Rob, you have this one, if you wanna play this one. It's a back and forth on what's happening. And I think at the end, she just flat out is like, no, I'm not changing my position. I'm staying here.

• 2:02:49Patrick Bet-David?

  He did not like this here. So let's, let's play this clip. Go for it, Rob.

• 2:02:53Speaker 29

  I apologize for nothing. My statements and my actions have endured the test of time. And Pierce, since you cut me off, let me finish. You've been in national television for 20 years and during that entire time, England has only gotten more Muslim. For 20 years, you're like the boss, you can say the faggot, or to even call out the rapist Muslims. Pierce, you are not incensed. The truth is, you have, you're, you have been complicit with the rape of England into its submission. It's not only on Pierce Damer, it's also on you, on the police and the courts that have covered up for their crimes. Absolutely. And I'll say what everybody else is thinking. England is better off without all the Muslims.

• 2:03:32Speaker 29

  And that goes the same way to the United States. We can solve all of our problems if these Muslims are sent back to their Sharia nations. Because they're not here to assimilate to the Americans or the British. You think you'd have no, you think you. I apologize for.

• 2:03:47Speaker 04

  I mean. Let's, I mean, let me explain something to you. She gets extreme, but at the end of the day, is she lying about Keir Starmer and all the Pakistani rape gangs in England? Who was Ed Sheeran? Sat down with, what's his name, Robbie? Theo Von. And he goes, "How is it in England?" He goes, "Everywhere is sketchy now. You can't go anywhere." This is Ed Sheeran saying it. And it's like, how much more lying? And I love Pierce, but with all due respect, enough of this nonsense of, "Oh, I love Curry and all this nonsense." Okay? It's happening. The UK is finished. You guys are finished. The only beauty about this country is, is our First Amendment backed up by the Second Amendment. Good luck coming with that shit here. They have over a hundred-some Sharia courts in England.

• 2:04:32Speaker 04

  In England, okay? And nobody's saying that shit. So when we talk about these stories about Somalia, we try to talk about this. She is extreme, but guess what? At the end of the day, Pat, she's not wrong. If you're not coming here to assimilate, once you're the majority, let's see how that attitude changes. And don't play that, "Oh, no, no, let's talk..." Let me give you my side. I don't want to hear that shit. We're a Christian nation. Our founding fathers founded this place on Christianity, and we're open to everybody. Practice what you want. I'm praying for you. And I know me and you have done this before. I pray for people to come to Christ. Everybody. Muslim, Buddhist, Jewish, everybody. At the end, when Jesus comes, every knee will bow. That's my message to people. I still love you. I still pray for you. I still, I love my enemies, which is the hardest thing, Pat, for me,

• 2:05:16Speaker 04

  is forgiving people and praying that they come to Christ. It's so hard because you're enemy, you want to hate your enemy. But these people know, they're gonna come in, they're gonna come in. Look at what happened in Minneapolis. Look at England. Look over the pond and tell me that they're not furious. That lady that we showed, Pat, on that phone call, crying. People are getting stabbed, walking around. It calls for them to get stabbed in the Quran? And you're gonna play that? No, we're a loving. The moment of the majority, it's a rap. It's not gonna happen here. Period. I actually respect her for going all this.

• 2:05:45Patrick Bet-David?

  What's this clip, bro? Is this a, you want to play this clip? Because this is her continuing.

• 2:05:49Speaker 30

  A white Christian commits a heinous crime? I don't assume that every white Christian is the same. Why would you?

• 2:05:57Speaker 29

  Piers, you can take the Muslim out of a terrorist nation, but you cannot take the terrorism out of a Muslim. And give me one example of a Christian committing a terrorist attack right now against Muslims.

• 2:06:06Speaker 30

  Let me ask you that. When the UK and the United States illegally invaded Iraq in 2003, I waged a campaign against that. So what would you say about that illegal invasion of a Muslim country?

• 2:06:21Speaker 29

  Muslims are killing Christians in Nigeria, Piers.

• 2:06:25Speaker 30

  Right, I didn't ask you about Nigeria. I asked you about Iraq.

• 2:06:30Speaker 29

  Iraq? Well, repeat your question again, please.

• 2:06:33Speaker 30

  Do you agree that we illegally invaded Iraq in 2003?

• 2:06:37Speaker 29

  I don't think she's bright enough to understand your question, Piers.

• 2:06:38Speaker 30

  I don't think she does. I don't think she wants to understand it. But in 2003, we, in my opinion, illegally invaded Iraq, a sovereign country. A million people died. It created ISIS, which then wreaked mayhem for two decades and was a stain on my country and on the Prime Minister Tony Blair, who I think should have been held up in a court of law over what happened under my name and the name of the British people. But do you care about that? Do you care that a million people, including hundreds of thousands of Muslims, were killed in a war in Iraq, which, in my opinion, was fought on an illegal, false pretext that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, which he didn't, it turned out?

• 2:07:22Speaker 29

  Piers, in 2003, I was four years old, and I cannot change what happened back then.

• 2:07:27Speaker 30

  No, I asked you for your opinion. I asked you for your opinion.

• 2:07:30Speaker 29

  And they can bomb every terrorist country they want. That's the reality. Your intellect has not grown a year since then. Okay, the Taliban, ISIS. You still think like a four-year-old. But then they're obsessed. Then they're... Yes, I'm honest. I'm honest. And I am the American dream on steroids. I have worked my way to the top.

• 2:07:44Speaker 30

  You're not the American dream, Valentina. You're not the American dream. You're the American nightmare. You're somebody fermenting hatred.

• 2:07:53Patrick Bet-David?

  And then he continues to say, you know, "When you lose, you will never be able to come back here again in Texas. But if you win, I will bring you back on the show so we can talk about it." She's bold. She's fearless, but she's going after these guys.

• 2:08:08Adam Sosnick?

  She needs to be careful. She needs to be careful. By the way, she's very talented. She used to come on my show from time to time. We know her brother. She's very outspoken. Who's in the national guard now? So here's the challenge that she's gonna have. She can't ever backtrack on those comments. She went full scathing, full scorched earth. It is what it is. Here's my response, because I too get some criticism. I too get some critique. I don't know if you've noticed this by the online chat. I don't know if you noticed it. But here's my position. I love Arabs. I enjoy Arab culture. I was out last night at Art Basel with my Saudi friends. I have Egyptian friends. We know one of my closest friends here is Lebanese, okay?

• 2:08:49Adam Sosnick?

  Persian culture, Assyrians, Chaldeans, there's Mizrahi Jews who are Arab Jews. I love the culture, the hospitality, the warmth, the food. Brother, come on in. My challenge is the Islamists. The Islamists who want to practice political Islam, Sharia law, put everybody in a hijab, shout death to America. Wow, they're living in America. That's the problem I have. So some people can, you have one of three options. You either say, no, I am against these people. I am Muslim. I am against these people. This is not who we are. Okay? Speak louder, please. You can kind of pretend that there's nothing going on here with this culture war or this potential

• 2:09:32Adam Sosnick?

  conflict, let's just call it that way. Or you could just go full on death to America. But at this point, the cat's out the bag. You have to pick a side here at this point. You're either, yes, I love America. I want to be here, or you're shouting death to America, or you hate America, you want to burn America down, and they gonna find you, buddy.

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• 2:10:52Patrick Bet-David?

  All right. You got that out of your system?

• 2:10:53Adam Sosnick?

  I don't know. Do you want to weigh in on this?

• 2:10:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Nah, I think she's got a point on what she's saying. And I think she is relentless about what she believes in. I think Pierce, he's been on TV for 30 years. Can you go look at the UK population 50 years, 30 years ago versus today? When it comes down to Muslims? What has happened from 1995 to 2025 Muslim population in UK? What has

• 2:11:23Patrick Bet-David?

  relation in UK from 1995 to 2025? What has happened from 95? From 950,000 to 4 million today? Forexed in 30 years during his time being there. And by the way, guess what? You can keep saying, "I don't see an issue. I don't see anything happening here." No problem. Keep saying that. But then when it gets to the tipping point, you can't get rid of this many people off an island. UK is an island. How are you going to get rid of them? You're, they're permanently there. There is no way of having them leave you. They're yours. And UK becomes a complete different country. And then you move to Florida. And that's what you do. Okay?

• 2:12:08Patrick Bet-David?

  And you know what? I'm going to come feel safer at Florida than where I'm at.

• 2:12:11Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, I totally understand why, why someone like Pierce wouldn't want completely shocking, unfounded allegations out there. I understand he's trying to narrate, but is it me? Does Pierce seem kinda soft on this issue?

• 2:12:25Speaker 04

  You think?

• 2:12:26Adam Sosnick?

  He seems a little, well, you know.

• 2:12:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Why do you think, though?

• 2:12:29Adam Sosnick?

  That's my question. I'm not on Pierce.

• 2:12:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Where does he live?

• 2:12:31Speaker 04

  He lives there. If he starts being honest, they're gonna kill him.

• 2:12:36Patrick Bet-David?

  He lives there.

• 2:12:36Adam Sosnick?

  Do you think that's his concern?

• 2:12:37Speaker 04

  Adam, why else would you?

• 2:12:39Adam Sosnick?

  Do you think Pierce is the type of person that is scared to say what he believes?

• 2:12:42Speaker 04

  Pierce is an amazing human being, and guess what? He's very smart. He's not stupid.

• 2:12:46Adam Sosnick?

  So you're saying he's playing scared?

• 2:12:48Speaker 04

  I, Adam, if you live, if you live in the middle of Harlem, you think you're gonna be walking around talking shit about all the people that live in Harlem? The majority that's taking over?

• 2:12:57Adam Sosnick?

  It's not like Pierce is walking the streets.

• 2:13:00Speaker 04

  What do you mean?

• 2:13:00Adam Sosnick?

  Hanging out and, you know.

• 2:13:01Speaker 04

  No, but Adam, if they wanna get, if somebody wants you, they're gonna get you.

• 2:13:05Adam Sosnick?

  So you're saying that he's playing scared?

• 2:13:06Speaker 04

  I think so.

• 2:13:07Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, let me do one story.

• 2:13:08Speaker 04

  That audience is not gonna F around, bro.

• 2:13:09Patrick Bet-David?

  CNN bets on a wager plan from Cal She, striking exclusive partnership to inject odds-making into coverage. Rob, if you wanna go to this. So Cal She had a pretty good day. They raised a billion dollars. And their valuation went to 11 billion dollars overnight, pretty much. They struck a deal with Cal She that will inject a real-time prediction market come out, digital, a move that stands to rewire how one of the country's largest newsrooms interprets the future. Cal She, which bills itself as the world's largest global prediction market company, that the agreements mark its major news partnership. The company is seeking to become the most authoritative source of information about the real-time probabilities

• 2:13:52Patrick Bet-David?

  of major cultural and political future events, according to CEO and co-founder Tarek Mansour. Mansour, that newsrooms traditionally focus on explaining what has already happened is happening in the present, with Cal She's data flowing into CNN through an interface that updates automatically that journalists will be able to help audiences interpret what may happen more accurately in the future. Tom, your thoughts about the story?

• 2:14:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, there's a big difference. First of all, congratulations to the guys at Cal She. What a big, what a big day. There's a big difference between polling and prediction. Polling is you go out and ask people, who are you voting for? And from that poll, I try to make a prediction. Well, it looks to me with 1,100 likely voters in Tennessee that Epps has about a 4% lead, 5% lead. And what have we seen in the polling the last couple of elections? None of it's right. Atlas and tell Rasmussen standing above the pack at the top, and then everybody else really sad shape. But what if I ask you a different question? Who do you want to win the Super Bowl? You would have said the New York Giants twice.

• 2:14:59Speaker 04

  Obviously, against the Pats.

• 2:15:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Right, exactly. But who do you think is going to win the Super Bowl? And you would have said, well, I kind of, you know,

• 2:15:07Speaker 04

  Probably the Pats.

• 2:15:08Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm with it. I'm blue. I'm New York Football Giants, but you know, I, I, I think Pats are gonna win. Guess what? That has proven to be more accurate. And that's exactly what a prediction market is. And so, calcio allows people to make these markets. They go in and they make their prediction on it, not who they're for, but who they predict. And their accuracy in the elections and in sports has been amazing. And so, now, Harry Enton and CNN are going to use them, hey, what does America predict versus what does a thousand people polling say? And what do I predict out of that poll? It's a little bit different. And it's proving to be more accurate. And you will see millions and millions of dollars because people can make a prediction a dollar at a time.

• 2:15:53Tom Ellsworth?

  It's like a, like a little ticket, you know? I, I'm gonna put a dollar on that. That's my prediction. And if I'm right, you know, I get something back. But that's what it's all about. And it's, it's new. And it's proving to be very accurate from the last elections. And strong stuff.

• 2:16:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, your thoughts?

• 2:16:12Adam Sosnick?

  Look, Tom's obviously following this more than me. I'll just say one thing. I said five years ago, I don't trust pollsters. I said the only thing that I do trust is Vegas. Do you remember me saying this? So I've been shouting that from the rooftops because how often do the pollsters get it wrong? All the time. So now we see this calcio thing pop up. We've been following Polymarket for a while. You know, the Quinnipiac, I can think they do a good job. Pew does a good job, right? Real, Real Clear Politics, all these pollster type things, ABC, Fox, this, they can all sort of be swayed and bought and purchased. I don't know. If you have, if you send somebody to lose like Vegas does, then you're gonna put your money where your mouth is. You're not just gonna, remember the, during uh, the, the 2024 election, out of nowhere,

• 2:16:57Adam Sosnick?

  Kamala was winning Iowa by like 15 points.

• 2:16:59Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:17:00Adam Sosnick?

  They're like, what? How did, Trump's up 6, how? And then it turned out the Iowa, Des Moines Register, whatever was, and then the lady had to step down because she got it completely wrong. So this allows, I guess.

• 2:17:13Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, it's actually, yeah, I do, Rob, can you run a poll? Who do you trust more? Pollsters? Or Vegas? Just a very basic, uh, uh, basic, uh, uh, poll to run, okay?

• 2:17:27Speaker 04

  Can I make a, can I make a prediction?

• 2:17:28Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, I wanna know what, what the number's gonna be. I'm actually curious with you. I, I think it's gonna be massive.

• 2:17:33Speaker 04

  I think Vegas, I think they would trust, oh, because Vegas, as money's involved, pollsters are just, hey, I'm a political guy and I want to make people think that it's.

• 2:17:41Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, so exactly what I just said, good work.

• 2:17:43Speaker 04

  That's what, that's what I'm, exactly. I'm saying Vegas. I don't even wanna look.

• 2:17:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. No, I mean, it's Vegas, 80, 90, 90 to 10, 87 to 13.

• 2:17:53Adam Sosnick?

  Good luck getting 90 on any sort of poll.

• 2:17:55Speaker 04

  Well, those 14% are probably pollsters.

• 2:17:58Patrick Bet-David?

  How about we run a poll, Rob? I have a feeling, I have a feeling we could get a 90% if I run. How many guys love Adam?

• 2:18:03Speaker 04

  Go ahead, run it.

• 2:18:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Run a poll.

• 2:18:06Speaker 04

  You guys better say you love Adam.

• 2:18:07Patrick Bet-David?

  You love Adam, say yes, no, sometimes. Do yes, no, sometimes.

• 2:18:13Adam Sosnick?

  Do a binary, Ant?

• 2:18:14Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, you wanna do binary? I'll take the sometimes out.

• 2:18:16Adam Sosnick?

  Whatever you wanna do. You wanna say yes or no?

• 2:18:18Speaker 04

  No. I'd like, no, I think it should be yes or no.

• 2:18:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Just put yes and no, Rob. No, sometimes.

• 2:18:24Speaker 04

  What about yes, no, and 1000 points?

• 2:18:26Patrick Bet-David?

  No, put yes and no, Rob. Just put yes and no, because that's what he wants.

• 2:18:30Adam Sosnick?

  Just cut it off after the first vote if I get a up vote.

• 2:18:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, no, let's see what people say here.

• 2:18:35Adam Sosnick?

  By the way, Pat, how much?

• 2:18:36Speaker 04

  Yes, Adam!

• 2:18:37Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, you'd be surprised. He doesn't even wanna look.

• 2:18:39Adam Sosnick?

  Hold on, come on, guys.

• 2:18:41Speaker 04

  Uh-oh, baby!

• 2:18:42Adam Sosnick?

  Come on, guys. Vegas, let's go, roll the dice, us, us!

• 2:18:47Speaker 04

  Vegas, 1,000 votes, 50, 50.

• 2:18:49Adam Sosnick?

  Let's go, guys!

• 2:18:50Speaker 04

  That's what I'm talking about, Adam.

• 2:18:51Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, that's surprised him.

• 2:18:52Adam Sosnick?

  My mom's watching, guys, my mom's watching.

• 2:18:54Patrick Bet-David?

  That surprised him.

• 2:18:55Adam Sosnick?

  My mom's watching, guys.

• 2:18:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you kidding? By the way, that is the biggest shocker. Adam's gonna have the greatest weekend ever. You guys have no idea how much you've made his day.

• 2:19:07Adam Sosnick?

  Give me a vote, guy. I see you, vote for me.

• 2:19:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Tell me you love me. Is that gonna go? Tell me I'm pretty. Will it flip to 51 yes? We're gonna flip the vote and tell you right now.

• 2:19:18Speaker 04

  Is that a voter?

• 2:19:19Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't even know how to vote.

• 2:19:20Speaker 04

  Get on the damn.

• 2:19:22Patrick Bet-David?

  How do you even trust these polls? I trust Vegas.

• 2:19:26Patrick Bet-David?

  I almost went 51 51 for a split second. Even to the haters, I love you as well. Let me, let me wrap up with one story before we finish this up with Ritz Carlton. So, couple of days ago, we have our offsite meeting at Ritz Carlton. And you guys gotta realize, I'm a big fan of Ritz Carlton. I can't say how many of our clients, we've encouraged to go and hire Ritz Carlton for their Standards of Excellence training. And we did this year, by the way.

• 2:19:45Speaker 04

  I loved it.

• 2:19:46Patrick Bet-David?

  And how great was that training?

• 2:19:47Speaker 04

  But I won a trip to the.

• 2:19:49Patrick Bet-David?

  You won the trip?

• 2:19:50Speaker 04

  I haven't gone yet.

• 2:19:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, but you won the. We even ran a contest to send you to the best Ritz.

• 2:19:55Speaker 04

  I'm going.

• 2:19:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Which we can't tell you where, but we're sending you to place. You won the contest? Yeah. It's a rig system, I'm telling you.

• 2:20:02Patrick Bet-David?

  How great was the training?

• 2:20:03Speaker 04

  I forgot the girl's name and I'm an idiot for not remember. It was such a, the stories and the things that the Ritz Carlton does to, unreasonable hospitality to another level.

• 2:20:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, unfortunately, they don't longer have that. So, that's Horst Schultz, starts Ritz Carlton 1983. He takes the company from 1990, having 50% of retention with their employees. He increases it to 20%. People no longer quit. They love working at Ritz. Experience is incredible. 2001, he steps down. 1998, I think Marriott buys them. I think the dates are something like that. Then the next two guys that come in, another CEO comes in in 2001, becomes a CEO, Simon Cooper. And he stays for nine years. And then the next guy comes, Herb Homler. And he stays from 2010, I think he's even a CEO till today. They call him the number four employee. He was a number four employee in 1983 when, uh, Hurst started the whole, uh, concept of service.

• 2:20:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Incredible. Well, this last week, we're doing a meeting, offsite meeting strategy session, at the Ritz in Fort Lauderdale, which we have done. I love doing my meetings there. But let me tell you what happened this week. I didn't like it. So, I like to host it in a meeting that I regularly hosted.

• 2:21:10Speaker 04

  Meeting room?

• 2:21:11Patrick Bet-David?

  I like a meeting room over there on the side on the third floor that I like to go to.

• 2:21:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Anyways, so I come in in the morning, they put us in a big room, massive room. I'm thinking to myself, why are we in a massive room like this? I don't want to be in a massive room. I want the room to be close because I put sticky. Rob, you've been in the rooms before when we're doing strategy, we put all this stuff and we go for six, seven, eight hours. Strategize. And by the way, this meeting went from 7:30 till 8:45. It was the best meeting we've ever had. It was an incredible meeting. But, I walk in and I'm in the room, lights are down. I want a little bit of light to come in. I'm like, I didn't choose this room. He said, well, they just called us, told us we had to switch because I said, we booked this room a month, we booked that room a month ago. Cause we come here regularly when we're doing our, wow, no, they just moved this to this. I said, let me talk to the manager. So I go outside to see, talk to the manager.

• 2:21:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Guy comes out and this guy named Juan comes up, who is a fan of the podcast. He says, Pat, I told them, don't move your room here. I told them, you're not gonna like it. I said, why the room? He says, I don't know why they moved you, but they moved you. I said, who's the manager? And this lady who was helping us out, I think a Russian lady, very nice, very sweet.

• 2:22:16Patrick Bet-David?

  I said, can I see the manager? Yeah, he's Chris. So I see Mathew speaking to Chris, so I get on the phone to talk to Chris. I'm like, Chris, what's going on over here? And he's just being very quick. Yeah, we, we changed the rooms. I said, yeah, but we booked that room. Yeah, but we have to change it. Yeah, but we booked the room. He said, well, there's nothing we can do about it right now because that room's already being used. So I said, we gotta figure something out because I can't do a strategy session here. I'm waiting upstairs. It's 8 o'clock. The meeting starts at 8 o'clock. Anyways, I'm waiting for the guy. 10 minutes goes by, he's not coming upstairs. Nobody's coming upstairs. This is Ritz Carlton. This is the Director of Operation. The Director of Operation, let me get his name correctly, uh, uh, on what this guy's name is. The Director of Operation, his name is, uh, let me give you the exact, exact name.

• 2:22:57Speaker 04

  And while you're looking, this is, this is the Ritz Carlton that had an employee that found a teddy bear that a person left and did a photo shoot and then sent it back.

• 2:23:04Patrick Bet-David?

  That's their, that's who they used to be.

• 2:23:06Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 2:23:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Chris Lozano is the Director of Business Operations at this place. So I said, I'm waiting. 11 minutes goes by, he's not upstairs. 2 minutes goes by, 13 minutes now, it doesn't come upstairs. I asked another lady, "Sir, I've only been here for 2 months, 2 days." I said, "Okay, let me go downstairs." I go downstairs, and I go up to the front lobby. "I want to know what's going on, because I want to change a room." I said, "Where's Chris?" He's in the back. I see an employee coming, he's talking to another lady in the back. He knows I'm at the front. So eventually, 3 minutes into it, I said, "Chris, you're gonna stand, wait, make me..." There is no customers in line, it's just me. I said, "Chris, you're gonna make me stand any longer before you come and tell me what happened here?" He comes out with an attitude. I said, "Where's the general manager?" I tried to talk to the general manager. And so the general manager's not available.

• 2:23:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Then these 2 other guys come, and I said, "Guys, why did you change my room? I booked that room a month ago, this is our quarterly offsite executive meeting. I can't tell you what we just booked." I said, "Who's in the room right now?" He said, "Well, you know, I can't tell you." I said, "I'm going to the room right now." "You can't go to the room." So I got Dan with me, I said, "We're going to the room." I get in the elevator, we go upstairs with Mateo. We're going to that room, buddy. I'm going to... They're sending securities running after me. I go to the room, guess who's in the room? I can't wait to hear this. Nobody. Stop it. What do you mean, Pat? What do you mean, nobody? No one's in the room. So what are they saying, the room is booked for... So I said, "So why..." So the guy's not telling me anything, this guy. So then I'm like, "Wait a minute, this is what's going on here?" So the room's not used, I said, "Why'd you move me?" Not giving me an answer.

• 2:24:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Then the security guy is standing, and he keeps looking at Dan. Yeah, because Dan will crush him. And Dan is like standing there like a pit bull. And I'm like, "Okay, alright, let's just get focused." We'll go upstairs and do the meeting. They put us in a meeting, right next to another meeting. There's screaming, shouting match going on right next door to us. For the first 4 hours of the meeting, all we hear is, we keep saying, "Can you keep it down?" Nothing. We asked to lower the AC for 4 hours, 6 times. Never did anything with the AC, we wanted them to increase it because it was freezing. Eventually, they're just waiting, "Hey, how can we make this better?", all this stuff. I'm like, "No." I just got an email right now, Mateo's telling me, "The general manager finally responded back." Oh, really? Finally responded back, and sends an email saying, "I can imagine how busy you guys have been, and all this stuff with Patrick and David,

• 2:25:19Patrick Bet-David?

  and we wanted to make it good, so we asked to extend a 50% discount on the room rental. In addition, I would like to personally assist you with the future events." Bullshit.

• 2:25:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Jose Torres, I don't want your discount. I'm gonna pay full price, but you will never see me at Ritz Carlton ever again.

• 2:25:36Adam Sosnick?

  No, really?

• 2:25:38Patrick Bet-David?

  You will never see me at Ritz Carlton ever again, never. And I've done so many events at this Ritz Carlton, never again. And I've promoted their standards of excellence. You will never see me ever again. We'll go down the street to Four Seasons or another hotel. You cannot suddenly cancel a room and not explain why you did that.

• 2:25:56Adam Sosnick?

  And have nobody in the room.

• 2:25:57Patrick Bet-David?

  You cannot. People are hosting meetings that they've been prepared for the longest time and put a room like that. So Mateo, Mateo doesn't even know I'm saying this. Pay full price, pay them the whole thing. Let them get the money that was so important to them, because all I wanted was service and speed. And we didn't get it. And it's heartbreaking because sometimes when the guy that created the culture that became the best brand, this company was the only company that got two customer service awards from the US government. Ritz Carlton's the only one that ever got this. And then you got a leadership like this that do that forget about customer service. Very disappointing, but don't worry, Jose, whatever your name is, what was his name, that the guy, uh... What's his name?

• 2:26:37Adam Sosnick?

  The GM?

• 2:26:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Jose Torres. You didn't call me that. You could have called me. I was in a meeting. It wasn't like you wouldn't have got ahold of me. We're gonna give you the money. Don't worry about it. We don't want a discount from you. We're not looking for a discount. We want respect. That's what matters to us. And, uh... Heartbreaking because it is a brand. I've been bragging. How many years have you heard me brag about... You know what book I've recommended a billion times? Standards of Excellence, because it's Ritz Carlton. A billion times because what this Horst founder did, the amount of respect I got for this guy and the way that they built the company, the way that they would create all these amazing stories for customers that would come in here. Can you pull him up? Because I want to give him credit, Rob. Can you pull up Horst Schultz? Horst Schultz. You know what he was known for? He would personally go to offices.

• 2:27:21Patrick Bet-David?

  He would personally go and visit places. He would personally go look and talk to customers. He would personally do it. And this Jose Torres guy was too busy to give a call and come check us out? And just cancel our rooms? Unfortunate. Anyways, maybe Jose, you need to go back and read Standards of Excellence, and maybe Jose, you need to call Horst and ask him, "Hey, what could I have done differently in a situation like this with a customer that's a B-back customer? Keep your B-back customers." But, uh, unfortunate, folks.

• 2:27:46Adam Sosnick?

  I just want to say something I've learned from you. You're the type of person, when you are treated royally... And you enjoy a place, you will go back over and over and over again. Look at what you've done with Casa di Angelo. My friend Tarek, he runs our.

• 2:27:59Patrick Bet-David?

  There's a conspiracy thinking I own Casa di Angelo.

• 2:28:02Adam Sosnick?

  He runs a massive hip hop platform, Rolling Loud. He goes, dude, I grew up right near Casa di Angelo. Let's have dinner. I hear people he talk about all the time. Like your voice amplifies. So now Ritz Carlton, I have the date here. October 3rd, 2024. So 15 months ago. We had a company meeting.

• 2:28:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Were you in that training as well?

• 2:28:22Adam Sosnick?

  We were all, every, it was a company-wide.

• 2:28:24Speaker 04

  Awesome.

• 2:28:24Adam Sosnick?

  It was phenomenal.

• 2:28:25Speaker 04

  Ladies and gentlemen, serving ladies and gentlemen.

• 2:28:27Patrick Bet-David?

  We took a day and a half off just to do training of Ritz Carlton with this consulting firm.

• 2:28:32Speaker 04

  That was, it was like, you, you paid them to bring somebody here to teach their culture.

• 2:28:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 2:28:38Speaker 04

  And then they treat you like that.

• 2:28:39Adam Sosnick?

  Endless amount of money during this. I took this picture. That's how I remember the date. It's called fundamentals of the customer experience.

• 2:28:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:28:48Adam Sosnick?

  There's four, four pillars. This is what. Service. Attitude. Consistency. And teamwork.

• 2:28:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:28:57Adam Sosnick?

  How would you grade those four things in your experience?

• 2:29:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Say the first one.

• 2:29:01Adam Sosnick?

  Service. Attitude. Consistency. Teamwork.

• 2:29:06Patrick Bet-David?

  I will give a 10 with Juan. Cause Juan was very good to us. The Russian lady, I'd give her a nine. She was helpless, but she was trying to help us. But I give a zero to the management team. I give a zero to the management team and that's the problem. The problem isn't the people at the bottom. The people are, the problem is the leadership, how fast you move. You know, we have unhappy customers. It happens a lot when you run a good company. And the first thing I want to do is I want to talk to the client and see what it is because when I talk to them, I want to know if this person's being unreasonable because they just need attention. Or is this person truly a customer that's a real customer that I want to be able to retain? Once I'm like, 90% of the time, we screwed up. We're like, no, no. We gotta find a way to make this good.

• 2:29:48Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, are you sure we're good? No, we're good. You're hearing from me. I cannot believe you called me, Pat. I get, I deal with customers because it's so important. And sometimes when we miss it, you have no idea how upset I get on myself that we missed it. I don't like it because it's not our standard. We, yesterday we're doing the lead mastermind. One of our clients says, I cannot believe how great you treat us. Everywhere we go, we, we take so much pride in that. We don't get it a hundred percent of the time, just like Ritz didn't here. But Ritz's mistake was.

• 2:30:14Patrick Bet-David?

  You just had to come upstairs, not let the customer wait for 13 minutes. And it was at the low, it's not, Vinny, there was nobody in the front lobby when I came in. Zero. So it's not a traffic season. Very disappointing.

• 2:30:28Adam Sosnick?

  But this is the, this is the Ritz. This isn't the Hilton, this isn't the Radisson.

• 2:30:32Patrick Bet-David?

  You don't think, you don't think the higher ups are gonna find out about that?

• 2:30:35Adam Sosnick?

  This is the Ritz.

• 2:30:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Whether they do or not, it's disappointing because I have a lot of history with Ritz. And you will never see me at the Four Law Del Ritz ever, ever, ever again. Unless if somebody else is hosting an event that I'm supposed to speak or go to. But I will never, ever put an event there ever again. Extremely disappointed. Actually breaks my heart because I love going to the same place. I don't want to go to a new place. Trust me. I only like to go to the same places because trust is important to me, respect is important to me. We sit in the same place. We like the same waiters. We tip very well. We take care of our people. Disappointing. So, Jose, you will get your money. You don't need to worry about that. And we don't want a discount. We don't need the sympathy. All we wanted was respect. And service. And unfortunately, we didn't get it.

• 2:31:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Guys, to everybody else, going back to it, Christmas, hat, Merry Christmas. Get a gift for somebody, share it with them, put it on, go to work. Represent. Make sure everybody knows that you're not afraid or embarrassed to say the most magical words, which is Merry Christmas. God bless. Have a great weekend. We'll do it again next week. Take care, everybody. Bye bye, bye bye.

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