547 Relieve Stress, Find Inner Peace and Live Your Greatness with Nick Ortner

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• 0:00Speaker 00

  This is episode number 547 with New York Times bestselling author Nick Ortner.

• 0:07Lewis Howes?

  Welcome to the School of Greatness. My name is Lewis Howes, a former pro athlete turned lifestyle entrepreneur. And each week, we bring you an inspiring person or message to help you discover how to unlock your inner greatness. Thanks for spending some time with me today. Now let the class begin.

• 0:33Lewis Howes?

  You'll never find peace of mind until you listen to your heart, George Michael. Welcome everyone to this episode. I'm very excited because we have my good friend Nick Ortner in the house. And something magical happens around the half point of this interview. I bring in Caesar, my COO, to run a little experiment and exercise with Nick. And something transformational happens. You have to stick around to listen to it or to watch it on the YouTube channel, on the video, because it's kind of mind blowing what happens. Caesar has a stiff neck. He literally can't even move his neck any which way.

• 1:14Lewis Howes?

  He has to move his whole body to see you. And at the end of this exercise, something magical happens. He can fully turn to the side, both sides. It's pretty crazy in just a few minutes. And for those that don't know, Nick Ortner is the CEO of The Tapping Solution and a New York Times bestselling author of The Tapping Solution, A Revolutionary System for Stress-Free Living. He also made a documentary around tapping, which inspired five online Tapping World Summits. It reached over a million people. He's raised over a million dollars for other related charities on inner peace and finding relief as well with stress in your life. So I'm very excited to bring him on. And some of the things we talk about are why we stack

• 1:58Lewis Howes?

  limiting beliefs on top of one another, how we can construct realities built on these stories. Also, why we're walking around with a stress response, thinking we are about to die. How to live on the edge without stressing yourself out and why stress is all about safety. Guys, we dive into a lot and again, give you some practical things you can try out at home to help you relieve stress and find inner peace in any moment. Whether you're feeling emotional anxiety, you have physical tension in your body or something's going on, there's a simple exercise that we're gonna break down and there's some research and science backing it, so I'm excited for you to check it out. Before we dive in, want to give a shout out to the review of the week, the fan of the week.

• 2:42Lewis Howes?

  This is from Rajan Bowman, who said, "I listen to the podcast every day without missing a beat. Sometimes that means listening to the same episode two or three times just to truly soak it all in. It's amazing that Lewis Howes just knows how to ask the right questions to get the most out of every guest. Truly, this podcast keeps me learning on my feet and highly motivated to succeed in life. Thank you, Lewis, for everything you do." So Rajan Bowman, thank you so much for leaving your review over on iTunes and for being the fan of the week. If you guys want to be considered for a shout out on the podcast, go to the podcast app on your phone or on iTunes. Type in School of Greatness and just right there on your phone on the podcast app,

• 3:27Lewis Howes?

  you can just click on the review, leave a review and click the stars you want to have as your review and click submit and there you go. It's as simple as that. And you'll get a chance to be given a shout out for the review and a fan of the week. And before we dive in, guys, we are launching today. School of Greatness Academy is open for its 11th class. So this is the 10-week program, intensive training online, where we build learning, coaching and accountability to help you achieve your biggest goals and dreams in the next 10 weeks. So if you've had any dream or goal that you have over the last year that you haven't accomplished yet, now is the time.

• 4:09Lewis Howes?

  Make sure to go to lewishouse.com/soga. That's S-O-G-A. LewisHowes.com/soga. Register today. There's hundreds of people joining who are...

• 4:20Lewis Howes?

  All on the journey to achieve their goals and dreams, increase your productivity, get clear on the vision for your life. All of those things are included in the School of Greatness Academy. So make sure to sign up, get involved. Let's finish the year strong. And also, The Mask of Masculinity. We are a couple of weeks away from the most anticipated book launch of the year. I just said that myself and made it up, but I actually believe it's pretty anticipated because there's so much pain and suffering and hatred in the world. And a lot of it is stemming from angry men who don't know how to express their emotions.

• 4:59Lewis Howes?

  And this book is so timely because it gives men the tools on how to release this trauma, release the stress, release the pain, the suffering, the all those feelings that men don't believe they can release or talk about. I talk about how to break it down and make it simple for men to do that. At least as simple as possible, as it is challenging for men to open up. And also for women, how to understand the men in their life, the husbands, boyfriends, brothers, fathers, sons that moms have who are disconnected or feel like they aren't opening up. I give you practical tools, resources and research on how to connect with the men in

• 5:40Lewis Howes?

  your lives to get them to open up, drop the masks and step into who they authentically are. So make sure to go to maskofmasculinity.com, preorder copy there and send me a message over on Twitter or Instagram at Lewis Howes when you get your copy. So I can give you a quick shout out and thank you for grabbing one. Again, maskofmasculinity.com. They are, there are a lot of bonuses over there on that page. So if you buy multiple copies, we get you some goodies and some bonuses as well. Again, maskofmasculinity.com. All right, guys, I'm pumped for this. It's all about finding inner peace, stress relief and living your greatness with the one, the only Nick Ortner.

• 6:26Lewis Howes?

  Welcome back everyone to the School of Greatness Podcast. We've got the legendary Nick Ortner in the house. Good to see you, man.

• 6:31Speaker 00

  So good to see you, man.

• 6:32Lewis Howes?

  Very glad that you're here. Yes, I don't even remember the last time we saw each other.

• 6:36Speaker 00

  I'll tell you, we were in a bar in New York City. And we were.

• 6:41Lewis Howes?

  When was it though?

• 6:42Speaker 00

  Five, six years ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like before you were doing, you were in the city trying to figure out your life, like doing your thing. Good friends with my sister and I actually think I was in the city because we had a mastermind. For our affiliates then and met up at the bar and chatted for a little while and have been in contact.

• 7:00Lewis Howes?

  Was your other brother there too?

• 7:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 7:02Lewis Howes?

  Okay, your sister was there at the same time. We were all hanging out. It's like after the mastermind or whatever.

• 7:06Speaker 00

  I remember, I remember where, you know, sometimes you remember, like we were standing there at the bar.

• 7:09Lewis Howes?

  Where was this? Do you remember which bar?

• 7:11Speaker 00

  No, that, that is absolutely, that's Jim Quick territory.

• 7:14Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, he would remember anything. Yeah. That's cool, man. Well, it's been a while, but congrats on everything you've been up to.

• 7:19Speaker 00

  Thank you.

• 7:19Lewis Howes?

  And you've been helping so many people over the last decade through releasing pain, right? And there's been a lot of trauma and pain in the world. It seems like more so this year than ever. There's a lot of pain and inner suffering.

• 7:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 7:35Lewis Howes?

  Which the inner suffering from my experience turns into physical pain.

• 7:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 7:38Lewis Howes?

  Is that what I'm understanding?

• 7:40Speaker 00

  I mean, 100%, you know, look, the correlation isn't always as direct. Like we tend to be like, oh, I have pain in my back. It must be emotional. Or I have cancer. I must have thought the wrong thought, right? The way I look at any of these things, it's that it's, it's a combination of stuff, right? So let's look at something as difficult as cancer or pain in the body. You start out with a genetic component, right? You're coming in with a certain set of genes, like they do something. They don't control you, but they, they set you up, right? And now you add in a trauma or a stressor or something that you don't let go of. I mean, I was just reading in, in your book, like talking about that, right? As men, we push it down. We push down these traumas, this pain.

• 8:21Speaker 00

  And if we don't acknowledge it, if we don't deal with it, if we don't move it through our body in some way, whether that be tapping, which we'll talk about, I think it's one of the best ways, meditation, exercise, journaling, moving these energies through our body.

• 8:35Lewis Howes?

  Just sharing it verbally?

• 8:36Speaker 00

  Just, just talking about it, right? Right? It's moving that energy. What happens when we don't move it? We swallow it down, right? And you like, you've met these people, right?

• 8:46Lewis Howes?

  I've been that person.

• 8:46Speaker 00

  You've been that person, right? That have just been swallowing things for so long. And you get that sense, like you could be, I'm sure when you were swallowing, you could like, you were happy on the outside, right? People were like, oh yeah, Louis is happy in the, but then there's just that underlying gnawing thing of like, you know what? I've been swallowing something for so long and it's eating away at me. Yeah. And frankly, I think that we're doing that with big traumas and with little traumas. All right, we're doing it with the things that happened in our childhood that we just, it's too painful to look at. And we're also doing it with just the daily stressors and just like the competition and the idea of like, Comparison. Comparison and all that adds up, all that boils over.

• 9:28Speaker 00

  That is why people blink and they go, wait, what do you mean I have prostate cancer? You know, what do you mean I have this? What do you mean my relationship fell apart? Like I was, the reality is everyone's doing the best they can every single day, right? People are putting it in like with, from the resources they have. And so many people just aren't getting that result. They're not getting that inner peace. They're not getting that inner clarity. They're not cultivating that sense of all is well. Yeah. What I love about tapping, what I love about this work is that for too long, I feel like we've just been up in our heads and we haven't brought the body into it. And so when we, when we talk about trauma, right, the things that have happened in our past,

• 10:09Speaker 00

  these traumas happen at a cellular level and like, you know it, you feel it in every bone in your body. When something traumatic happens, and again, big or small, it could be sexual abuse. It can be you got up in front of the class in fifth grade and you stumbled on a word when you were reading and everybody laughed at you. And that little fifth grader in that moment said, this is not safe. This environment is not safe. The brain decided, no more, right? So then they say, they stumble, everyone laughs at them, they have to give a report the next year. They spend the next three months before the report terrified of giving this, right? We stack, we stack, we stack, and now that's the person that you meet. And I ask my audience, who here is scared of public speaking?

• 10:53Speaker 00

  Like 10 to 20% of people raise their hand. That, think about that, that makes no sense, right? That someone would be scared to walk up and talk, like you and I are not scared right now.

• 11:03Lewis Howes?

  Mm-hmm.

• 11:04Speaker 00

  We're being watched by people, but there are, for some people, this experience right now would be terrifying. And that's because something has happened along the way in their brain that said, this is dangerous. And we know what they are, right? When we dig in, we say, well, my brain says, what if Louis thinks I'm saying stupid things? What if the audience doesn't like me? What if I stumble over a word? What if I this? What if I that? These are the beliefs that we stack on ourselves and our lives. And these are the chains that we stack on ourselves.

• 11:34Lewis Howes?

  Mm-hmm.

• 11:34Speaker 00

  What ends up happening after enough of those events and enough of that, creating who you are? Is that that's when you're shackled and you say, oh, this is just who I am. I am, and we say it with I am. I am scared of public speaking. I am lazy. I'm a procrastinator. Oh, I start things and then I always stop, you know? Or I have trouble, like we have all these I am's.

• 11:55Lewis Howes?

  I'm not smart enough to do this. I'm too young. I'm too old, all these, all these things, right?

• 11:59Speaker 00

  These are all behaviors, they're all experiences that stacked one on top of the other.

• 12:03Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 12:03Speaker 00

  You know? And then we, look, we, half the time, we walk around like robots, right? We're just like, we're going on all these old programs. You say something to me and I'm pulling a program from 20 years ago that someone said something similar. And now I'm offended. And you were like, wait, no, what do you mean? That was a joke. Or like, where are you getting this, right? We construct these realities out of these previous experiences. And it's been my experience in the last, you know, 10 plus, now 15 years of me doing the tapping personally, that when I, see, I got to a point, and I know you got to the same point, when I was like, okay, I know that I want to create change in my life. Like, everyone listening, like, you don't listen to School of Greatness.

• 12:42Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 12:43Speaker 00

  Right? Like, there's some of the population that doesn't know to create change in their life. It's one of the things that I think Tony Robbins, our mutual friend, does so, like, one of his big gifts to the world, what he did in my life in 2001 was, I went to a weekend and said, oh, I'm in charge? Like, I create this? Like, I take responsibility for this, right? A lot of the world doesn't take responsibility for their actions. So, one thing is Knowing that's step one, like, okay, now I know. So I'm gonna listen to this podcast. I'm gonna try to create change. But what I was so frustrated with was like, I know, I know where I am. I know where I want to be. Why can't I get there? Like, what is the disconnect? Why do I take two steps forward and one step back? Why is it a struggle? Why is it like I've got to push through my life?

• 13:29Speaker 00

  And I found when I did this work of saying, what are the things, what are the experiences? What are the things I'm feeling in the moment? That are holding me back, that are keeping that stress response running? Because that's what we're really looking at here. When that fight or flight is activated, when there's a fear of public speaking, when there's an old trauma, that amygdala is firing, the stress response is activated. When that happens, blood, you know, this flows away from the brain into the arms and legs. Now we're fighting and fleeing, you know? So, and I like to joke, like, imagine having this conversation and I'm being chased by a tiger. Like, if I'm scared right now, that would be like me being chased by a tiger or a bear. And then think about the things that we really want in our lives.

• 14:08Speaker 00

  So to write that book, to make that call, to say I love you to someone, to apologize for something that we did, to dream a bigger dream, to actually take this action, all these things that we want, these positive aspirations. Try to think about them when you're being chased by a tiger. Because if you're being chased by a tiger and I'm like, Louis, tell me about your book. Like, this is incredible. What, what is next? What is your vision for this? How do you want to reach people? Why, why did you do this? Give me your love and your heart. You would say, I'm being chased by a tiger. The only thing that matters in this moment is that I don't die. And too many of us are walking around running that stress response. Where the only thing that matters is that we don't die.

• 14:52Speaker 00

  The only thing that matters is that we don't feel these feelings again. That we don't feel that pain and that hurt and that heartache. I think a lot of times people are scared to look at this stuff, right? Mask of masculinity is like, whoa, you're asking a lot for people, right? Like, this is, this is scary stuff. If you don't have a tool to process those emotions, which I know you have in the book, if you don't have journaling or meditation or tapping, then it makes sense to bury it down. Right? Because who, who wants to feel that for no reason? Right? So let me bury it down. Let me get to work. Let me just do my thing. I'm gonna bury it. What I found with tapping and people will experience it when we, when we do it in a little while is that.

• 15:34Speaker 00

  You feel the emotion and then you actually process through it. It's supposed to say swallowing anger down. Like if you're angry about something, we could tap and it'll happen time and again. You'll be angry. Okay, fight or flight, right? There's something in your body that's saying, I have a right to be angry about this. I was harmed. I'm gonna stay angry, right? For safety. So we tap and we talk about it and you acknowledge this is how I feel. And we send these calming signals to the amygdala in the brain. The brain all of a sudden gets this wiring mechanism that says it's safe. And now all of a sudden you'll say to me, you know, I don't feel that angry anymore. I'm just kind of sad about this situation. Oh, well, that's interesting. Well, let's take a moment to feel that emotion.

• 16:15Speaker 00

  Yeah, you know, it was such a great friendship and we just got at each other and things went the wrong way. And now I'm feeling that sadness. Okay, let's tap through that sadness. You know, I don't feel that sadness. I just really realized that we were just both meant to go our own ways. Right? All of a sudden, like this incredible healing that sometimes takes decades for people to get to.

• 16:35Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 16:36Speaker 00

  Happens in minutes because we are allowing the body to feel and express the emotion.

• 16:40Lewis Howes?

  Hmm. What were the things that you suppressed the most? Growing up before you got into tapping?

• 16:47Speaker 00

  Yeah. You know, I think I was operating, because I'm like thinking about all the different aspects of my life. A place where I saw this pattern running and I'll try to dig out where the suppression was with it, was around finances and money. And people are like, what do you mean tapping for money? Well, my family growing up, like I was born in Argentina, lived there till I was seven years old.

• 17:13Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 17:13Speaker 00

  Came to, you know, the US, didn't speak a word of, well, spoke a little bit of English because we had like second grade English classes, or whatever the equivalent is.

• 17:21Lewis Howes?

  Are you still fluent in Spanish?

• 17:21Speaker 00

  I'm still fluent in Spanish. Yeah, yeah. And um. You know, so second grade, joined a new world.

• 17:30Lewis Howes?

  No English.

• 17:31Speaker 00

  No English, didn't complain that the Flintstones were in English and I couldn't understand it. I mean, that's, I remember clearly being at JFK airport, like we got, we got in late. And we had to stay at the airport before driving out to Connecticut where we were living. And we put the Flintstones on and I am just, I just, my parents tell me this story, I threw myself back in the bed and I said, I'll never understand this. You know, cause in that moment, right? They're just.

• 17:54Lewis Howes?

  No one did this.

• 17:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, the cartoon is just jabbering in English and oh my gosh, right? So, so growing up, you know, we, middle class, there wasn't a lot of money for extra little things, but we were fine. My family definitely ran the pattern. I saw it again and again of boom and bust. It was like, things would go really well for my dad and then something would go wrong. And then things would go really well and something would go wrong. And I get into my twenties, I start my own web design company. I'm doing really well. I'm feeling good about life. I'm passionate. I'm living in New York City. I took all my friends to this trip in Mexico where I paid for the villas. Like, I'm like doing it, right?

• 18:33Lewis Howes?

  It's pretty sweet.

• 18:35Speaker 00

  Perfect, right? And then, a year later, broke. Hundred thousand dollars in debt.

• 18:41Lewis Howes?

  Oh, man.

• 18:42Speaker 00

  Right? Boom or bust.

• 18:43Lewis Howes?

  When was this? What year?

• 18:44Speaker 00

  So, this is, graduating, this is two thousand and one. This is right after the towers fell.

• 18:49Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 18:49Speaker 00

  Moved into Manhattan.

• 18:50Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 18:51Speaker 00

  Two thousand and two.

• 18:52Lewis Howes?

  You moved in after they fell?

• 18:53Speaker 00

  Yeah, I was, I was planning on it. We, we moved to Brooklyn for the first year and then lived in Manhattan, uh, the next year. So, it's like everything.

• 19:01Lewis Howes?

  Were you watching the towers from Brooklyn or?

• 19:03Speaker 00

  No, it was, I moved to Brooklyn maybe about a month after they went down.

• 19:07Lewis Howes?

  It's crazy.

• 19:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 19:08Lewis Howes?

  And that, talk about trauma and the whole city there.

• 19:11Speaker 00

  And which we're still, still dealing with.

• 19:12Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 19:13Speaker 00

  Still dealing with. Um, and, uh, yeah, so, and what I noticed.

• 19:21Speaker 00

  With the money situation, what I finally unlocked for myself, right? Cause it's like, wait, why am I doing so well? We go on this trip. Everything's great. We're, we're planning the next year's trip.

• 19:31Lewis Howes?

  That you'd paid for already.

• 19:33Speaker 00

  I paid, no, I paid for just the villa the first year, right?

• 19:36Lewis Howes?

  They got their flights.

• 19:36Speaker 00

  They got their flights. It was a good deal, right? Second year, we're planning it and I couldn't get the same deal on the villa. So it's gonna be more expensive for people. And I got pushback from some friends, one in particular, who's a dear friend today. So it's all good. But she was like, you know, Nick, we don't all make the money that you make. You know, and it came with a little bit of attitude, right?

• 19:58Lewis Howes?

  You can't expect us to come and pay for these things if we don't have it or whatever.

• 20:01Speaker 00

  So there I am like feeling on top of the world. And then, oh, I don't fit in anymore. Like now I'm different than you. Now we're not friends. I'm making more. We're not connecting. Sure enough, my unconscious mind took over for the next year and went bust again.

• 20:17Lewis Howes?

  Sabotaged myself so I can stay in the community.

• 20:20Speaker 00

  So I can stay in the community so I can fit in, you know? And if I look at growing up. Look, I'm passionate about the world. I'm passionate about these tools of change. Before it was tapping, it was other things I would rope people and you gotta read this book. I mean, you know, right? So, and that passion doesn't always fit in, right? Um, I remember in fourth grade, I wrote a blog post about this. It was funny. Playing volleyball, we're playing volleyball, gym volleyball, right? So everyone plays, teams are divided in two. There's one dude, boys and girls, people just stand there. Like people who literally can't hit the ball. It's okay, right? It's like as bad as it gets. And I'm like, I'm the cheerleader, you know? I'm like, hey, we're playing a game. Like, let's go all in.

• 21:05Speaker 00

  Do this, you know? And I'm a nice cheerleader too. I'm not like yelling at the person for missing. Like I'm positive.

• 21:11Lewis Howes?

  Got this next time.

• 21:12Speaker 00

  Right? And I remember, I still remember his name. This is what these things do to us, right? He said, who are you? Captain Kangaroo? Now I didn't even know who Captain Kangaroo was. He was actually a TV host from like the seventies. He was like a, it was like a Mr. Rogers kind of person. I didn't even have to know, right? But think about this, I didn't have to know who that person was to know exactly what he meant. Captain Kangaroo, like you think you're better than us. You think that you're like, yay, hooray, hooray, hooray. So these things happen and then we just shrink down, right?

• 21:47Speaker 00

  The opportunity, I think the growth in our lives, I think the place where we find the most fulfillment is to feel these edges. And you know, not power through them, not bust through them. Feel the edge, be with the edge, understand why the edge is there, accept the edge. You know, with the tapping we do, even though I have this problem, like what we start with generally is like whatever's going on, even though I'm anxious. I'm scared, I'm overwhelmed, I have this limiting belief about money, whatever it is, even though I have this. I love and accept myself, or I love and forgive myself, I want to forgive myself at the edge. I don't want to say that I've got a power through it, that if I fail, I'm not enough, I want to love myself in that place where that discomfort is.

• 22:32Speaker 00

  To me, change happens from that place. We can for, we can willpower our way to great things, but change where it says, I'm a different person today. And I went through this and I changed and I grew and I learned something from it, happens from that place of acceptance. And we see it with our, our body and weight loss, right? My, my sister who, you know, who wrote a book about tapping for weight loss and body confidence. She says that we can't panic our way thin. And I think that happens to like every place we look, but this is what people do, right? They go, let me panic enough about how I look in the mirror. Because if I put enough hate, anger, pressure, fear and stress on myself.

• 23:17Speaker 00

  Starvation. Starvation, I'm gonna get this done. Yeah. And it doesn't work, it doesn't work. Does it work for 1% of the population? Yeah, probably. It doesn't stay, probably. Doesn't stay, you know, the 1% that makes it work, they're miserable inside, they're crumbling inside. When you stop and talk to them and ask them, how do you feel? They, they don't feel any better, still not enough. Yeah. Right? So how do we? Find these edges in our lives and and be with them and be present to them, be present to to how we feel.

• 23:46Lewis Howes?

  I think a lot of kids don't have tools to to cope with the the feelings also, you know. I wish that school taught us for an hour a day meditation, tapping, talk therapy, whatever may be self-confidence, just the things that are gonna be helping us throughout our entire lives. And I remember as I started to chase my dreams from college into professional sports and beyond. It was like I lost all my friends from college, like I would keep reaching out to people.

• 24:16Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 24:17Lewis Howes?

  And I was like, here's what I'm up to, I'm like going after this thing. And it was like they stopped wanting to talk to me. I was like, I keep reaching out and no one responded to my calls anymore. I was like, what's going on?

• 24:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 24:28Lewis Howes?

  Like, why are they? And they were all hanging out together, but I was, since I was chasing my thing.

• 24:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 24:32Lewis Howes?

  And they weren't chasing their thing. It was like they stayed kind of comfortable.

• 24:37Speaker 00

  Well, and who knows? Look, things worked out, but who says that your injury wasn't a a way of saying, oh, this isn't safe.

• 24:43Lewis Howes?

  Right, exactly.

• 24:45Speaker 00

  I want my friends, you know, like.

• 24:47Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, yeah. But it was just kind of like, uh, it sucked to feel like, huh, you're gonna be alone when you chase something. So let me retreat back and shrink myself so I can be around other friends.

• 24:57Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 24:58Lewis Howes?

  Luckily for me, I felt like, you know, I'm just gonna find new people who do support me.

• 25:01Speaker 00

  Sure.

• 25:02Lewis Howes?

  And it sucks that I don't have these friends that I had for many years, but I guess it's part of life.

• 25:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 25:06Lewis Howes?

  So I started finding people that were inspiring enough to similar things.

• 25:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 25:11Lewis Howes?

  And generate new friends.

• 25:12Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 25:12Lewis Howes?

  And every step of the way, the more I'm going after my dreams, I lose friends.

• 25:17Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 25:17Lewis Howes?

  And find new friends.

• 25:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 25:19Lewis Howes?

  Some stay around, some have come back from 10 years ago and they're like, hey, man, I'm really sorry.

• 25:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 25:23Lewis Howes?

  Like, I'd love to reconnect and and that's kind of interesting, too, to see like where their reflection is.

• 25:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 25:30Lewis Howes?

  But yeah, it's hard if we don't have those tools.

• 25:32Speaker 00

  When you and you talk about kids, it's one of the things I'm most passionate about.

• 25:35Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 25:36Speaker 00

  We have a kids book for tapping where like it's a children's book and through our foundation, one of the big focuses over the next year is a program for schools. So we've got a curriculum written. And what we're, what we're doing is basically working on these little videos in the morning. So like five minutes, start your day by doing the tapping. Teachers are doing it all over the place now with their kids on their own. We're just looking to, you know, make that part of the system.

• 26:02Lewis Howes?

  That's cool.

• 26:02Speaker 00

  What, what happens is you get them tapping, they get grounded in the body. They get, they release that stress, they release that anxiety. And one of the things that I love about the process as opposed to, you know, talk therapy is great, but how are you going to do talk therapy with 30 kids in the classroom, right? And how are you going to do talk therapy with a seven year old who maybe not even, doesn't have the way to express how he feels. But he knows that he showed up at school this morning and his parents were beating each other up in the morning before he showed up at school. And he's showing up and he's tense and he's scared and he's angry and he's overwhelmed. How's he going to think? How's he going to read? How's he going to do anything? Impossible. We do the tapping, we're just calming his body. We're just telling the brain that it's safe.

• 26:43Speaker 00

  And if you do it in that moment, like if you do it when it's active, that's when you can change the destiny of someone. That, that fifth grader who got laughed at, right? There was two ways that that experience could go. She or he could get laughed at and say, this is dangerous. Or get laughed at and say, you know what? I'm going to be better and I'm going to be stronger and I'm going to, or do the tapping and let go of the trauma. Like we have all these points in our lives where we can take one way or the other. The tapping helps us bring ourselves back to that place of peace, calm that amygdala, calm that nervous system. So then we can make the decisions that really serve us best.

• 27:20Lewis Howes?

  Hmm. Have you been big into meditation as well? Or is this your form of meditation?

• 27:24Speaker 00

  No, I mean, I love it. I think it's a, my best combo is usually tap first and then meditate. Right? So like people should try it because that monkey mind that you waste, you know, you're like, I just meditated for 20 minutes and nothing happened. Or the last 30 seconds, you finally are like, ah, and then it's like ding, you know? Tapping first, just acknowledging what it is that's going on, acknowledging the stress in the body. Some of the latest research has shown that just an hour of tapping, this was in like a session, drops cortisol more than cognitive behavioral therapy or just sitting there. Massive drop in like cortisol, stress hormones in your body. So you do that before meditation, you'll, you'll see how deep you go.

• 28:03Lewis Howes?

  Tell me the science of what tapping, what tapping does and the research that backs it.

• 28:08Speaker 00

  Yeah. So there's over a hundred research studies now. This has been around for 30 years. It's only in the last couple of years, I've put a lot of personal money into the research. Something finally lit up for me about five years ago. Yeah. That said, I gotta put money into research because it matters. I didn't think that way for a long time because I was sort of naive. It was like, did you see what that just did? Did you see how that person was just in pain and now they're not in pain? Did you see how much happier this person is? Like, I just went on results. Like, that was, was exciting me, right? But you get to a point, and especially when you want to affect institutions in a bigger way. So, we do a lot of work with veterans with PTSD. VA hospitals and people inside them have sort of been doing it, you know, undercover. Yeah. Getting amazing results with veterans.

• 28:51Speaker 00

  But if we want to make a system-wide change, we need the research. So, over a hundred studies on everything from, like I said, veterans, PTSD, unbelievable results. Sure. You know, and again, think about some of the mechanisms that are happening. Let's say you're a veteran, you come back from war. I sit you down as a therapist and I say, Louis, tell me, what happened? And you're like, who are you? First off, who are you? Yeah. You know, to ask me this question. Second of all, think about mask of masculinity and men. Like, we can't talk about something that happened at work the other day that is stressing us out. How are these brave veterans gonna talk about war and the things that they saw and experienced? With it happening, as long as we start to access these memories and emotions, we don't have to say anything. All right?

• 29:34Speaker 00

  So, I can be like, hey, I know that you went through something 20 years ago and you don't have to share it with me. Like, it's, it's too hard to talk about it right now. That's okay. Let's just, you think about it. You run that memory, you feel these feelings in your body, and let's tap through it, right? Boom, tapping through. Now, you're connecting to that memory, you're firing it in your brain, calming the amygdala, calming, relaxing the body. In essence, telling the body, hey, this is safe. And it's the weirdest thing because, first off, what will happen is, five minutes later, you'll go, you know, I want to tell you about it. Mm-hmm. Right? Cause you'll want to share it afterwards, yeah. You just took that edge off, you took the fear off around it. I remember hearing from a parent who was using it with their teenage daughter and... Teenage daughters all upset, something's going on, right? Right.

• 30:19Speaker 00

  So like mom knows something's going on. But she won't say. She won't say, right? Something with a boy had to be, right? Of course, of course. She won't say, let's do the tapping. Okay, we'll do some tapping. We'll just talk. We don't have to say anything. Just tap through the point. Boom, boom, boom. Think about it. Think about it. Sure enough, she opened up, told the whole story. All right, so veterans with PTSD, like, we can go slowly. We can start to unwind the memories. And when we bring in this physical component, the brain rewires, the cortisol drops, DHEA comes, goes up, like, all these healing hormones flood through our body from this process. And I tell you, I know people are like, I'm just showing the points that people are like, wait, what are you doing? I know people are like, what are we doing tapping? I wake up every morning and I say, what is it that I actually do?

• 31:02Speaker 00

  I teach this tapping technique, but I think we're gonna look back a decade from now. And it's just gonna be like meditation now is the hottest new thing, right? It's been around for 10,000 years. Right, right, right. Now we finally figured it out. Yeah, now it's mainstream. But now we have in institutions, whether it be the government or corporations saying, we have to lower the stress, like, we need to do something out of self-interest, you know? A corporation's self-interest is to reduce pain in the body, to reduce sick days for people, to reduce stress and absenteeism. Right, so we, we have to look at these tools and tapping is just an extraordinary one to make that happen. Hmm. How did you discover in the first place? Yeah, so I, um, I found it online, you know, I'm not the originator of the technique.

• 31:47Speaker 00

  Like I said, it was, it was first sort of formed in the late 1970s by a psychologist, Roger Callahan, who combined his psychology with this idea of acupressure, with stimulating these acupressure points. Uh, one of his students, Gary Craig, took it and turned it into EFT, which is its current form that I sort of learned from and, and built off of. Um, I- EFT stands for? Emotional Freedom Techniques. Yeah, so EFT, EFT tapping, they're all sort of general words for, you know, the tapping technique. Got it. Um, I remember finding it online. I, one of the first things that I used it on, I've mentioned pain a couple of times, how well it works. On pain relief. And I remember waking up with a crick in my neck, you know, it's like

• 32:28Speaker 00

  you sleep wrong, like you wrestle the bear in your sleep, you know, you're like, what happened? You know, like, how did I hurt myself sleeping? And you know, usually what do you do? You pop a Tylenol or an aspirin or you stretch it out, lasts a couple of days, right? Those are the conventional things that you do. And I kept hearing about how tapping works on pain relief. So I was like, all right. I made sure to shut the blinds so my neighbors didn't think that I was really going crazy.

• 32:51Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 32:52Speaker 00

  He's hitting himself. And I went through the process, even though I have this crick in my neck. And I tried to think about what was stressing me out in my life. And I did the tapping. And sure enough, the whole thing just let go.

• 33:03Lewis Howes?

  Wow, really?

• 33:04Speaker 00

  It just released. And that's when I was like, okay, there's something here.

• 33:09Lewis Howes?

  So you learned, you saw like a video training online and there was someone demonstrating it and said, okay, do this process and you try it yourself. No one taught you.

• 33:15Speaker 00

  No one taught me. And that's what's like, people can just do it on their own. That's what I love about it. That's why psychologists and psychiatrists around the country are bringing this into their practice. The reason is they can do it one on one and then they can say, all right, hey, Lewis, I'm not going to see you for another week or another month.

• 33:31Lewis Howes?

  Here's something you can do.

• 33:32Speaker 00

  You can do, right?

• 33:33Lewis Howes?

  Like when you feel overwhelmed or stressed.

• 33:36Speaker 00

  You know, I mentioned when we were talking before that I live in Newtown, Connecticut, which is the site of the Sand Hook school shootings. And I've had the honor of working with first responders from that with mothers who have lost their children. And one mother in particular has become a dear friend, Scarlett Lewis. She lost her son Jesse. And Jesse was amazing. He was one of the heroes. There's a New York Daily News with him on the cover that says hero because he yelled, run, and he saved 12 other kids' lives.

• 34:03Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 34:04Speaker 00

  He's a special kid. And, and we tapped together and we looked to minimize as much as you could the trauma, not the grief, right? It's not like you tapped to get rid of the loss of your son, but you tapped to get rid of the shock and the trauma and the fear and the holding on. That if you don't let go of that, you're just going to walk around with this for the rest of your life. And she didn't want that. She wanted to make sense and meaning and build off this tragedy. She didn't want to walk with this thing in her heart. So we worked together and she learned the tapping and a couple of months later, she woke up at three in the morning in the middle of a panic attack. And she had had panic attacks before. This was something that she was used to. And if anyone listening is familiar with panic attacks, full blown.

• 34:49Speaker 00

  There's a point of no return, right? There's a point where it's like she's thinking to herself, I have to go to the hospital now. Like I need medication because I am panicked, my body's panicked, hurt. Other son JT was sleeping in the room next door. She thought to herself, I'll call an ambulance, go to the hospital, get some meds, and then I'll be back before he even wakes up, right? Like crazy, but this is just the state of panic that she's in. She found that space, that little gap, right? That this is what we need in our lives, that little gap to say, what if I can do something different here? And she started tapping. Like she went, even though I'm panicking and I'm so scared and this, that and the other, just verbalizing her feelings. 10 minutes later, she's asleep.

• 35:27Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 35:28Speaker 00

  She talks about this to, about that to this day. And to me, the power in that is that she took the power back. Like she didn't rely on having to get help. Not that there's anything wrong with getting help, but what do you do at three in the morning when you're having a panic attack? Like we have such a culture that's focused on these outside things like, oh, that person can fix me. You know, people, when I tap with them, I always say, oh, you, you, you really fixed me? Or that was amazing. I can't believe you did. What are you talking about? I showed you a way for you to take control of your emotions, your feelings and your body.

• 35:59Lewis Howes?

  Hmm. Yeah. I want to actually, I was gonna practice with me, but I actually think Matt has like a stiff neck.

• 36:06Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah?

• 36:06Lewis Howes?

  The last three days.

• 36:07Speaker 00

  All right.

• 36:07Lewis Howes?

  He hasn't been able to move his neck. So I want you to grab him and see if, what happens.

• 36:12Speaker 00

  Oh, boy.

• 36:13Lewis Howes?

  No pressure.

• 36:14Speaker 00

  No pressure. Yeah.

• 36:15Lewis Howes?

  He's been like.

• 36:15Speaker 00

  He's like, it's worse.

• 36:16Lewis Howes?

  He's got a, he's got a two-year-old, uh, little girl, not, I'm sorry, two-month-old.

• 36:20Speaker 00

  Oh, boy.

• 36:21Lewis Howes?

  So he just had his first child.

• 36:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 36:23Lewis Howes?

  You know, very little sleep, been traveling for my events. Uh, it's a little under the weather.

• 36:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 36:29Lewis Howes?

  So he's been going through a lot of change, a lot of, you know, both him and his, his wife are up late and, you know, stuff going on. So I want to see if he can come in and actually be your.

• 36:40Speaker 00

  My guinea pig?

• 36:41Lewis Howes?

  Your guinea pig. We'll see. We'll bring him in in a minute. Let's go over the points though.

• 36:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 36:45Lewis Howes?

  Before you bring him, before we bring him in, let's go with the points. There's seven points? Is that right or more?

• 36:48Speaker 00

  Um, a couple of different variations, but let me show you the basics, right? So we start by tapping on the side of the hand.

• 36:55Lewis Howes?

  Does it matter which hand?

• 36:56Speaker 00

  Nope. Whatever's comfortable. Whatever's comfortable. I usually go, you know.

• 37:00Lewis Howes?

  We'll go through the points first. You're gonna come in and be a guinea pig or something. We need you for something.

• 37:03Speaker 00

  He looks really excited.

• 37:04Lewis Howes?

  In a moment, in a moment. We'll bring you in in a moment. Yeah. Stay here though. Stay here.

• 37:09Speaker 00

  So, well, step one before anything is like, what are we working on?

• 37:13Lewis Howes?

  Uh huh.

• 37:13Speaker 00

  Right? So, and what's great is everyone can pick something. So you're sitting at home, pick one thing. I like to start on the one thing that's just stressing you out right now. You know, it's like, it's the pain in your neck, right? It's something you have upcoming. Like, oh, I got this project launch in two weeks.

• 37:31Lewis Howes?

  Book launch, whatever.

• 37:32Speaker 00

  Yeah, like, right? If you just feel that heaviness around it, like, look for the place where you feel heaviness. Look for some sadness if you're anxious about something, if you're mad at somebody, right? And we want to get really specific. That way we can focus on it and then see the shift. Right? Because we can just tap through the points and you'll feel better, but.

• 37:48Lewis Howes?

  So if it was on like the person I had an argument with that I'm mad about.

• 37:51Speaker 00

  Yeah, somebody says something to you this weekend and you think about it and you're angry and it's a level eight? Perfect. We give it a number on a zero to 10 scale because we want to see the change. Right? So everyone just pick something.

• 38:02Lewis Howes?

  Or if you're in pain.

• 38:03Speaker 00

  If you're in pain, boom, right there.

• 38:04Lewis Howes?

  Like lower back pain or neck pain.

• 38:06Speaker 00

  Pick the pain. Pick the pain and we'll go a little deeper with the pain because there's an emotion behind the pain.

• 38:11Lewis Howes?

  Sure, sure.

• 38:11Speaker 00

  So pick the thing, you got your number, and then we tap on it. So should we just go through the whole process?

• 38:16Lewis Howes?

  Let's do it. Let's get him in here first, actually, since Caesar's here now. So Matt's gonna come on, Caesar, and I'm gonna let him walk through it.

• 38:22Speaker 00

  How are you?

• 38:22Speaker 02

  I'm great.

• 38:23Speaker 00

  Nice to meet you.

• 38:24Speaker 02

  Pleased to meet you. Thanks for being on the podcast.

• 38:28Speaker 00

  Yeah, so, um, we're gonna do some tapping. You ever heard of tapping?

• 38:32Speaker 02

  First time.

• 38:33Speaker 00

  All right, all right. And I heard you have a stiff neck.

• 38:35Speaker 02

  I do. Left side of my neck is just pretty hard to turn left.

• 38:39Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 38:40Speaker 02

  So.

• 38:40Speaker 00

  So you're locked up to the left? How's the pain, zero to 10?

• 38:44Speaker 02

  Um, straight on, I'm good. But the second I start moving left, it's, it's a good six, seven.

• 38:49Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 38:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:50Speaker 00

  Okay. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I can move. Yeah. And when did it start?

• 38:55Speaker 02

  Uh, started a few days ago.

• 38:57Speaker 00

  Okay. Do you remember? Did you like, felt like you did something?

• 39:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think it was just to wake up one morning, slept wrong, slept funny, you know? Got a newborn baby at home, so sleeping's a little bit of a challenge.

• 39:08Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 39:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:09Speaker 00

  How is your general life stress level right now?

• 39:12Speaker 02

  Pretty good.

• 39:13Speaker 00

  Yeah?

• 39:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think it's pretty good.

• 39:14Speaker 00

  Okay. Alright, so here's what we're gonna do. The first round, we're just gonna tap on the thing. So everyone watching, like, please pick something, like, do this now, because such a good opportunity to have the experience. Don't just watch Matt go through it. Pick anxiety, pick stress, pick like, the one thing that you wanna focus on, and release. And so, six or seven, we have no mobility to the left. How about to the right?

• 39:37Speaker 02

  To the right, it's much better.

• 39:39Speaker 00

  Yeah, look, he just turns his shoulder. Yeah, to the right is much better. He goes like this. That's the chair swiveling. You actually didn't move.

• 39:48Speaker 00

  Alright, so we start.

• 39:51Speaker 00

  We start by tapping on the side of the hand. Everyone else just join along. And I want you to just tune into that feeling in your neck. And the first round, we're just gonna tap on the thing, and then we're gonna go deeper, look into some other stuff. So you can repeat after me, and everyone watching at home, you can use the same language, you can change it up a little bit. I'm gonna try to be very general, but you just focus on that neck, alright? So even though I have this pain in my neck, and just say that out loud.

• 40:17Speaker 02

  Even though I have this pain in my neck.

• 40:19Speaker 00

  I choose to relax now.

• 40:20Speaker 02

  I choose to relax now.

• 40:22Speaker 00

  Even though my neck is all locked up.

• 40:24Speaker 02

  Even though my neck is all locked up.

• 40:25Speaker 00

  I love and accept myself.

• 40:27Speaker 02

  I love and accept myself.

• 40:29Speaker 00

  Even I'm holding on to all this pain.

• 40:31Speaker 02

  Even though I'm holding on to all this pain.

• 40:32Speaker 00

  And I'm not sure what it's about.

• 40:34Speaker 02

  And I'm not sure what it's about.

• 40:35Speaker 00

  I choose to relax now.

• 40:37Speaker 02

  I choose to relax now.

• 40:38Speaker 00

  And we're gonna tap through the points. The first point, you can do one hand or both hands. The meridians run down both sides of the body, so whatever feels comfortable. And you're gonna go on the inside of the eyebrow, right where the hair ends and it meets the nose. That's perfect. And you're just tapping five to seven times. It's not a perfect process. You could tap here 100 times and you would be great. And you're just tuning into that pain in your neck, or the anxiety about that project, or the anger that you feel. Just take a moment to be present with that thing. Now we go to the side of the eye. It's not at the temple, right on the bone here. Again, one side or both sides. And being present to your body, feeling yourself safe and grounded, thinking about what is going on. What's the thing that you picked?

• 41:22Speaker 00

  If you're anxious, what are you anxious about? If you're angry, run that movie in your mind about what happened. And now, under the eye, right on the bone. And just tuning into that pain, that stress, that stiffness. And being present with your body. Under the nose. Right on the bone there.

• 41:46Speaker 00

  If there's pain in your body, you can ask yourself, what's this all about?

• 41:51Speaker 02

  What is this all about?

• 41:54Speaker 00

  Under the mouth, right in the little crease in there, it's above the chin.

• 42:00Speaker 00

  And ask yourself if there was an emotion in that pain, in that stiffness, what would it be? Think about that now, just say that out loud.

• 42:10Speaker 02

  If there was an emotion or a pain in this stiffness, what would it be?

• 42:16Speaker 00

  And what's the answer?

• 42:18Speaker 02

  Ouch.

• 42:20Speaker 00

  What's the emotion? What's underneath the ouch?

• 42:26Speaker 02

  Stress, distress.

• 42:29Speaker 00

  Stress about what specifically?

• 42:35Speaker 02

  The annoyance of it.

• 42:40Speaker 02

  It's annoying. It's not my natural state.

• 42:43Speaker 00

  It's not my natural state. Go to the collarbone, just feel for the two little bones of the collarbone. And you go down an inch, out to each side about an inch, you can tap with all 10 fingers of both hands. So you're angry at the pain?

• 42:57Speaker 02

  I would say I'm angry at the pain, yeah.

• 43:02Speaker 00

  Just be present with that pain and stiffness.

• 43:06Speaker 00

  So you have a lot going on in your life right now? A lot of demands?

• 43:11Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 43:14Speaker 00

  And you're staying strong?

• 43:16Speaker 02

  Staying strong.

• 43:16Speaker 00

  Staying stiff?

• 43:18Speaker 02

  Staying stiff.

• 43:19Speaker 00

  Can't bend.

• 43:21Speaker 02

  Cannot bend.

• 43:23Speaker 00

  No time for bending.

• 43:28Speaker 00

  Right?

• 43:29Speaker 02

  No time for bending here, right?

• 43:34Speaker 00

  Under the arm. About three inches underneath the armpit, right on the bra line for women, either side of the body.

• 43:41Speaker 00

  There's no time for bending.

• 43:43Speaker 02

  No time for bending.

• 43:46Speaker 00

  Top of the head, right at the crown. I've gotta stay stiff.

• 43:54Speaker 02

  Gotta stay stiff.

• 43:58Speaker 00

  Back to the eyebrow.

• 44:01Speaker 00

  And just answer this question out loud. What would happen if you relaxed?

• 44:07Speaker 02

  If I relaxed, the pain would go away.

• 44:14Speaker 00

  Side of the eye.

• 44:19Speaker 00

  Just be present to the pain. Be present to the stress in your life, right now.

• 44:25Speaker 00

  A new baby. A lot of demands.

• 44:32Speaker 00

  A lot of travel. Under the eye.

• 44:37Speaker 00

  Just notice the last couple of weeks and the burden, the stress and the pressure it's put on your body.

• 44:48Speaker 00

  Under the nose.

• 44:53Speaker 00

  And everyone else, just keep tapping along with us. Being present, watching what happens, listening to the words that your brain is bringing up. What's it saying? What's it doing? What are you thinking about? Sometimes we start tapping with one thing and we find something else.

• 45:07Speaker 00

  Under the mouth.

• 45:11Speaker 00

  Sometimes we're angry and then we realize we're sad.

• 45:15Speaker 00

  Sometimes we think we're stressed about something, but it's also about something else altogether.

• 45:22Speaker 00

  Collarbone.

• 45:31Speaker 00

  Just go ahead and take a deep breath in. You can gently stop tapping.

• 45:40Speaker 00

  And now we tune back in. So, we, whatever you're working on, the anxiety, the stress, the fear, we look at that number. Everyone at home, check back in. What's that number? We can get really distracted by a lot of other things. Where's that number now? And how's the pain? Zero to 10?

• 45:54Speaker 02

  Numbers.

• 45:56Speaker 00

  Well, there we go.

• 46:01Speaker 00

  Did we get a good angle on that turn? The chair did not move.

• 46:07Speaker 02

  That is some Jedi stuff, right there.

• 46:13Speaker 00

  Zero to 10 on the pain? Look at that.

• 46:16Speaker 02

  I mean, zero.

• 46:17Speaker 00

  No pain?

• 46:18Speaker 02

  Zero.

• 46:21Speaker 02

  That's a little bit won there, but there's nothing to left.

• 46:28Speaker 02

  Holy moly.

• 46:31Speaker 00

  Wow. What do we do? Five minutes? Maybe? Max?

• 46:36Speaker 02

  Unbelievable.

• 46:37Lewis Howes?

  Really? You're not faking it, huh?

• 46:39Speaker 02

  No. No faking.

• 46:42Speaker 00

  No, I don't think you're gonna fake it either. Yeah?

• 46:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was like... Oh my god. No, this is good. This is good.

• 46:50Speaker 00

  So, look, that's... that was a couple of minutes. We relaxed the body. We decreased the stress hormones in your body. We acknowledged some of these feelings. Like, I'm sure you had your own internal process, right? As you were doing that tapping. Wasn't just about your neck. It was like, man, I've been holding strong recently and maybe I just need five minutes to just bend a little bit, you know?

• 47:10Speaker 02

  That was a nice five minutes, I have to say. I mean, unbelievable.

• 47:14Speaker 00

  Yeah, so Louis said, "What's it gonna take for him to stay flexible?" Right? Not go back? That's it. Yeah. So, look, that was only a couple of minutes. If you and I sat down for another half hour, I'd say, "Let's really talk about how you're feeling with everything that's going on and tapping on releasing that stress and that anxiety." It may be that you just needed a little bit of a release and now you're good to go.

• 47:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 47:36Speaker 00

  It may be that three hours from now, you're gonna be on the phone and you're gonna find yourself, you're starting to stiffen up and you go, "Oh wait, who am I talking to now? Oh, I don't like this phone call."

• 47:45Speaker 02

  Right.

• 47:46Speaker 00

  Like, Louis walks in the room.

• 47:50Speaker 00

  Then we know it's his fault, you know? Right? So, we look for these clues. Like, what is our body telling us? You know? All too often, we get a symptom in our body and we say, "Oh, it must just be this." You know, we go to Google and we look it up and we say, "Stiff neck, here's what you take for it," and that's just what it is.

• 48:07Speaker 02

  Right.

• 48:08Speaker 00

  So, we're asking ourselves, like, "What is the emotion here? Like, what am I feeling? What am I going through?"

• 48:11Speaker 02

  Yeah. I typically go to ibuprofen. I mean, sadly, I mean, that's my first step with physical pain, you know?

• 48:18Speaker 00

  You're good. We just throw him in. He would have bought it all the way.

• 48:20Speaker 02

  I have to say, yeah, I feel like physical pain requires some sort of physical adjustment rather than mental. That's typically my go-to rather than just sitting there and having a moment of meditation, tapping, just allowing yourself to be and breathe.

• 48:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 48:37Speaker 02

  I don't think I do that enough.

• 48:39Speaker 00

  Well, keep me updated and I'm happy to work with you more.

• 48:42Speaker 02

  Thank you. Very good.

• 48:42Speaker 00

  My pleasure. My pleasure.

• 48:43Speaker 02

  All right.

• 48:44Lewis Howes?

  Keep it relaxed.

• 48:47Lewis Howes?

  Don't go back. Awesome.

• 48:49Speaker 00

  Yeah, look at him.

• 48:50Lewis Howes?

  Does it feel better?

• 48:54Speaker 00

  He looks better, doesn't he?

• 48:56Lewis Howes?

  He walked in stiff.

• 48:56Speaker 00

  He walked in, yeah, like, he's got more blood to his face.

• 49:00Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, yeah. Keep trying it. Do another five minute session when you feel. Wow.

• 49:06Speaker 00

  You walked in better.

• 49:08Lewis Howes?

  There you go. I figured he would be a better transformation than me.

• 49:11Speaker 00

  Yeah, I mean, look, there's nothing better than a visual, right?

• 49:14Lewis Howes?

  Exactly, exactly.

• 49:14Speaker 00

  But to me, it's like, what's great about that visual is that that's what's happening inside, right? This is how we move through. Like, this isn't just about pain relief. This is about, you know, it is about greatness, right? We both have greatness, like, the manifesting your greatest self, you know? It's like, how do we bring that out of ourselves? How do we bring out our greatness?

• 49:33Lewis Howes?

  Well, here's the thing, we cannot do anything greater for tight at all.

• 49:37Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 49:37Lewis Howes?

  The greatest athletes.

• 49:38Speaker 00

  You know that in sports, right?

• 49:39Lewis Howes?

  That's it. You've gotta be in the flow at the most times you can be throughout the day. If you want to be able to make an impact, have meaningful relationships, make sure your body is in tune to what the way you want it to feel and look, and the results you want financially, everything. And that's why it's all about, okay, what are those tools and strategies that are gonna help us stay relaxed? And focused on something bigger than ourselves, a vision of impact, a vision that will inspire other people, as opposed to a vision of, I'm not enough, or I'm suffering, and focus on me, me, me.

• 50:13Speaker 00

  Yeah. And what do most people, their instinct when they have a vision, I mean, I do a process with people. It's like, all right, you wanna make a goal come true, or a dream come true, this is what you do. I'll tell you right now, right? You sit, you close your eyes, you imagine that dream and that goal. At first, it feels good, right? You're like, oh, yeah, I can do this, I can make it. And then you pay a little attention, you ask yourself questions like, what's the downside of this happening? Or you bring your family members in, like, right? So you want your dream house? Like, we're in this beautiful apartment, right? You want your dream place? Like, have a family member walk in and see what they say. See how, just in your mind, right? We can do this instantly. Like, you know, you can bring anyone that you know in your mind, and you know what they will say, right?

• 50:56Speaker 00

  So have them come in, see how they react, see how you react. What are the things that you say to yourself? You want to publish a book? See it on Amazon. What will I hear from people? They'll be like, "Oh, it's so great it's on Amazon." Oh, wait. But what if it gets a one-star review? You know, it's like, instant fear, instant going to like, what's the downside? If you don't accept one-star reviews, like I, this, when new authors come out and like, I'm helping them with the book and talking, I call them up when they have a one-star review on Amazon and I congratulate them. I tell them, "You've made it." Like, because no, if you don't have a one-star review, your book hasn't gotten out enough, right? You haven't sold enough copies. Like, that should be your job. Like, someone's gonna have something to say about what you have to say, no matter what. Guaranteed. You know?

• 51:41Speaker 00

  So that's how we have to bust through those fears.

• 51:43Lewis Howes?

  Even when we don't go after our dreams, someone's gonna talk negative about us.

• 51:47Speaker 00

  I mean, that's it.

• 51:47Lewis Howes?

  You might as well do it.

• 51:48Speaker 00

  Yeah, exactly.

• 51:49Lewis Howes?

  You might as well go after it, because either way, people are gonna judge you.

• 51:52Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 51:52Lewis Howes?

  Talk negative about you. If you're sitting around on the couch all day, they're gonna say you're lazy.

• 51:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 51:56Lewis Howes?

  If you're going after your dreams, they're gonna say you're not good enough, or you're not doing it the right way. So either way.

• 52:00Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 52:01Lewis Howes?

  Um, well, thank you for doing that for him, because he's been stressed out the last few days.

• 52:05Speaker 00

  I'm so glad, yeah.

• 52:05Lewis Howes?

  And as much as I try to relax him and get him to breathe, you know, sometimes it's too close to, to home. Um, why, what is the cause of all stress in your mind?

• 52:15Speaker 00

  That's such a good question. Um,

• 52:19Speaker 00

  you know, I, I think it all comes back to safety. Alright, so, is, on one side of the spectrum, we had that tiger chasing us, right? That is that originating behavior. I, I, I really liked, so day two of the book, I did this thing where there's Grog and Thor, right? They are cavemen, our ancestors.

• 52:36Lewis Howes?

  Mm-hmm.

• 52:37Speaker 00

  And I, I paint this picture of Grog and Thor sitting out there, you know, in the savanna, right? And I forget who's who, but let's say Grog is meditating, right? Because he's just like, he's Mr. Positive.

• 52:48Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 52:48Speaker 00

  You know, he's just like, he's omi and he's meditating and he's doing his affirmations on the rock and like, he is just being so positive. And Thor is just like, dude, I hear it, like a saber-toothed tiger, like, you know, he's on the lookout, he's looking around, he's scared, and he's going to Grog, "Dude, this, I, this thing's coming closer. Like, do you hear the sound of this?" And Grog's like, "Look, man, you need to be positive." You know, like, you need to manifest the things that you want in your life. You need to visualize, and he's sitting there visualizing peace, right? Thor, who's just like, ah, freaking out, freaking out. He says, I'm, I'm out of here. I'm leaving for higher ground. Sure enough, Grog gets eaten, right?

• 53:28Speaker 00

  Grog was not looking out for danger. Thor is our ancestors, right? That, we are made of that. We are made of many pessimistic people. Yeah. Who, in times of danger, looked out for the negative. It's called the negativity bias. Rick Hansen talks about it in detail, like. So our brain does that. And I think I loved exploring that and learning about that because the second you acknowledge, hey, my brain is going to have this bias, right? Then you can, first off, take a little bit of the pressure off of being positive, like, oh, I just, oh, there, my brain went there. Great. Now let me acknowledge it. This is where tapping now rewires that brain and that nervous system and tells that amygdala is calm.

• 54:11Speaker 00

  And then you can feel the positive emotions truly, right? You can like actually feel them as opposed to like trying to fake your way to them, like, no, I looked at this fear. So, back to your original question, stress is about safety. Some part of us doesn't feel safe. If we're stressed because we're running around, why are we running around? Because we think we have to, because we think we have to do it to fit in, because we have to pay the mortgage or, like, it all comes back to safety. And I find when I, like, people can just literally tap with, I feel safe. I feel safe in my body. It's something that we never think of, right? Because for most of us, thankfully, we are physically safe most of the time. It's not the case for a lot of the world, but we are.

• 54:51Speaker 00

  But that emotional safety isn't there. Like, they could read your book, I feel safe. I feel safe. Yeah, I have a mask and I feel safe, right? And like, what if I could let go of that mask? What if I could let go of these things that I'm putting on? What if I could feel safe in my body? When you and I feel safe around each other, we're not stressed, right? If I think that you're judging me, if I'm worried about this, I'm worried about that, that's when the stress goes up. And you can feel it with everybody around you, right? Like, do they feel safe, comfortable? I mean, I felt that in this environment when I walked in today. Yeah. Like, the people you have working with you, there was, there was a grounded, safe energy. They were happy and just like, it was, it was beautiful. And it was because.

• 55:37Speaker 00

  At some level, they felt safe in their body. They were passionate about what they're doing. You created a safe environment for them. Um, in corporations, I mean, they've done studies at Google that the number one thing for like worker cooperation and enjoyment and productivity is a sense of safety.

• 55:52Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 55:53Speaker 00

  That I can say, hey, Lewis, I actually don't agree with what you're doing with that project there. Like, I think you missed the mark there. And we can feel safe enough to go, oh, okay, yeah, I see what you're saying there. Well, what if I do this, right? As opposed to what normally happens is like, I either don't say anything, or I say something and now you're pissed off. And now we hate each other and can't get any work done, you know, where there was a collaboration based on safety.

• 56:14Lewis Howes?

  Hmm. What would you say is your biggest stressor or fear in your life right now? Someone who's been practicing this for over a decade, who's been helping the world feel. Do you ever find yourself falling back?

• 56:29Speaker 00

  Yeah, so, um, I mean, my biggest stressor is I'm a parent of a two and a half year old daughter. So that has been just beautiful and amazing. And that is just the, the basic parent stress that exists. I actually have a book coming out, uh, next year on tapping for parents, kids and teens. And, uh, I'm donating a hundred percent of the profits of that in perpetuity. Never gonna make a penny on it to the foundation because I think that work is so important. Like, I see it. So, but that's, I'm okay with that, those stressors. Like, that's just the life stuff. Um, I think for me, you know, certainly as a public figure, as representing myself out there, sharing the tapping.

• 57:09Speaker 00

  I feel a deep sense of responsibility for the technique, like for tapping itself as almost like a thing. Um, there's many other people talking about it. I'm not the only one. I just happen to be someone who can share it in a way that people resonate with.

• 57:25Lewis Howes?

  Build an audience.

• 57:26Speaker 00

  Yeah, build an audience and, and resonate with, um. From the beginning, we were talking about the movie I made earlier. I'm barely in the movie. It was never about me. I didn't want to be the guy. Like, me on the cover is a weird thing for me.

• 57:40Lewis Howes?

  I know, we talked about this, yeah.

• 57:41Speaker 00

  It's a weird thing for me. I had to really, I had to get a lot of opinions. It wasn't, just wasn't what I just naturally wanted to do, you know? Now that I'm doing it, how do I balance work and, and family life? You know, I mean, the same challenges that I think so many of us have, like, I have this passion. I believe that this tool can help not just you and I and on stiff neck and all these great things, right, which are important? I think it can help and transform the lives of veterans with PTSD where we don't have any answers. Um, I think it could play a role in the opioid crisis and the, the deep pain and suffering that people are going through. So it's, it's just about like,

• 58:23Speaker 00

  that feeling and how do I do that and also just stay in balance, right? And not be scattered and you know, the opportunities that are everywhere all the time. You could follow a different, a million different paths at any moment. So it's like, how do I, what do I do to grow my business, to support my family, to support our employees? And to get the message out and the thing with the tapping is I'm always working on like, what's the best delivery vehicle of this, right? Cause we can't all tap one-on-one and we can't all, gonna have me around when, you know, someone has a stiff neck, right? So, and we're doing some things there with an app and other, other forms of getting that. So when, you know, when someone like Scarlett has a panic attack at 2am, like,

• 59:06Speaker 00

  she knew enough and had the presence of mind to do the tapping, but maybe someone else doesn't and maybe they can pull up their phone and have a resource there to just ease, you know, not fix everything, but just ease that pain.

• 59:18Lewis Howes?

  I think as, you know, yoga kind of became more mainstream in the last 10 years, you know, 10 years ago, there was really what? Maybe one or two yoga studios in LA and New York. Maybe 15 years ago is more like that. And then the last 10 years, it's all over the country. And now it sounds like meditation is starting to make its boom.

• 59:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 59:34Lewis Howes?

  Becoming mainstream, you know, Headspace has done a great job of getting the word out there, you know.

• 59:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 59:39Lewis Howes?

  Andy Podik comes on, you know, Jimmy Fallon and Ellen and, you know, doing this work and kind of making it more mainstream. Do you think, since this does come from more of a, you know, let's say, new agey technique, that it will ever get to the mainstream level of a yoga and of a meditation?

• 59:59Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's a great question. I do. I mean, I'm as biased as I get.

• 1:00:02Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, of course.

• 1:00:02Speaker 00

  But I do because of the research. Like, we're just gonna keep plodding away at the research and it's not cheap and it's not fast. And it's just like, it takes time, but there's going to be a point where if you think I'm crazy, you can't ignore me after a point when I say, look, you know, here's a thousand research studies that show it, you know?

• 1:00:23Lewis Howes?

  Right. From all these credible.

• 1:00:25Speaker 00

  Credible universities. And look, right now, we have psychologists and psychiatrists using it every day in their practice. There's a psychiatrist right now, as we speak, using it on their client. And I've heard time and again, I mean, psychologists will come up to me, both practice and say, I've been practicing for 20 years. I don't know how I did it before.

• 1:00:43Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 1:00:44Speaker 00

  Like, I don't know, because the results that I get now are so astonishing that it's just like, you know, they didn't waste 20 years, but part of them feels that way, like, why did I have to wait this long to know about this?

• 1:00:57Lewis Howes?

  It doesn't take six months to a year to break through with someone. It takes a session or two, or maybe whatever, yeah, depending on the case.

• 1:01:03Speaker 00

  It is shocking. You know, the original case that Roger Callahan had when he created this, he was working with someone who had a water phobia. And like terrified of water, like drinking water was stressful, right? Like, just full-blown phobia. Traditional therapy, cognitive behavioral therapy, exposure therapy, trying all these things, nothing was working. He'd been reading about the meridian system in the body. They were working at his house, looking at a pool.

• 1:01:30Lewis Howes?

  The pressure points?

• 1:01:31Speaker 00

  The pressure points, exactly. And he had read that the stomach meridian is underneath the eye. His client, Mary, was talking about, you know, when I look at the pool, I just get all these butterflies in my stomach. I get so queasy. She was having that physical response. Whatever that brain link-up had been, water, danger, right? He said, try tapping underneath your eye and the phobia cleared.

• 1:01:51Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 1:01:51Speaker 00

  Like that. And you can imagine, he's a traditional psychologist, he's going, how?

• 1:01:56Lewis Howes?

  What's going on?

• 1:01:57Speaker 00

  Now, this is why we need the research. You hear a story like this, like that, and you go, come on, I mean, all right, that happened once.

• 1:02:04Lewis Howes?

  Placebo or something.

• 1:02:04Speaker 00

  Placebo, this, that and the other. But when we have tens of thousands of, I mean, at some point, we have to listen to anecdotal studies. We have to listen to that experience, right? Like,

• 1:02:15Speaker 00

  we brought someone in with a stiff neck,

• 1:02:17Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:17Speaker 00

  who was taking ibuprofen, never met him before, five minutes later, his neck is moving. That is different than what I had seen in my life before tapping. Have you ever seen it?

• 1:02:26Lewis Howes?

  No.

• 1:02:27Speaker 00

  Right?

• 1:02:27Lewis Howes?

  No. And maybe if you spent a half hour with him and you really got him to relax without being on camera and all these other things, like, maybe it would have been like,

• 1:02:33Speaker 00

  Yeah, like, yeah, you could visualize. And again, to me, it's not a competition of tapping and meditation. They're both like, you know, but, uh, so if, if that happened, then we need to start asking some questions about it, you know?

• 1:02:46Lewis Howes?

  Right, right, yeah. Um, cool, man. This is powerful stuff. I want to make sure you guys get a copy of the book, Manifesting Your Greatest Self, 21 Days to Releasing Self-Doubt, Cultivating Inner Peace and Creating a Life You Love. Make sure you guys get a copy right now. It is out right now. Um, and for me, again, all these things come back down to inner peace. So I'm glad you have inner peace in there because if we don't have inner peace, we're not able to be our greatest self. We're not able to flow, we're not able to connect, we're not able to reveal who we truly are, which is what I talk about in my book.

• 1:03:16Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 1:03:17Lewis Howes?

  We're projecting certain things and holding tension all the time as opposed to just, this is who I am and I'm going to allow it to flow.

• 1:03:24Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 1:03:24Lewis Howes?

  So I'm glad you wrote the book and I'm excited for people to get this.

• 1:03:27Speaker 00

  Thank you.

• 1:03:28Lewis Howes?

  Couple of questions left for you.

• 1:03:29Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 1:03:30Lewis Howes?

  This is called the three truths.

• 1:03:31Speaker 00

  Very good.

• 1:03:33Lewis Howes?

  So imagine this is the last day for you, many years from now. You live to be as old as you want to be. But for whatever reason, um, all the work you've ever done has been erased. All the books, videos, talks, they're gone. And you've had a lot of stuff by this point, but they're erased.

• 1:03:51Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 1:03:51Lewis Howes?

  And all you have is a piece of paper and a pen by your bedside and you get to write down the three lessons or the three truths that you know to be true for yourself from all your experiences. And this is all people would have to remember you by. What would you say are your three truths?

• 1:04:04Speaker 00

  Boom, I love it. Um,

• 1:04:08Speaker 00

  I think number one, and it's manifesting your greatest self, the school of greatness, that there is greatness within you, right? And greatness.

• 1:04:18Speaker 00

  I love the word, but many people attach this sort of sense of perfection around it. Like I talk in the book like, no, no, no. This isn't about being your perfect self. Right. This is being about your greatest self. Like this isn't the school of perfection. Mm hmm. This is a school of greatness. And so acknowledging that that is within you and then also

• 1:04:40Speaker 00

  determining for yourself what greatness means. Mm hmm. Cause greatness isn't about having a million followers on Instagram. Like that's where our brains go instantly. Oh, if I'm great, I'm famous, right? Isn't that like one of the classic like, or I'm rich or successful. Like, what does greatness mean to you? Does greatness mean that you were kinder to someone today than were the day before? Does greatness mean that you said, I love you when it felt a little difficult? So define that for yourself. Like, we don't set these parameters. We'll never know if we meet them. That's one, that there's greatness within you.

• 1:05:17Speaker 00

  Two is that underneath all this, underneath looking for greatness, underneath striving and achieving and doing the tapping, I think we're just looking to love and to connect to the love that we feel in our hearts and to connect to the love we feel for others. I, one of the things that I've really been getting in the last couple of months as I've been doing tapping myself with, with people and for myself personally is that we, we talk about these things, like what it means to love someone. But we don't really know. Like we, we haven't been to the depth of feeling that love, some moments in our lives, right? You see moments where people are like, when my daughter was born or my wedding day, you know? So the question is like, that love is there. How do we cultivate it?

• 1:06:01Speaker 00

  The same way we're cultivating inner peace, cultivating love, cultivating that openness of heart. So two, cultivate inner peace, cultivate love. And three. Look, if it's my legacy, I gotta say, you gotta tap. Tap. You gotta tap, you know, it's too powerful. I know it's funny. I know it might take a little getting used to, but I guarantee you that, you know, the tens of thousands of people, of people listening and watching, they had experiences. Like, they said, oh, I was anxious at a level eight, and now I'm at a level five. Right? That's big. Like, we are in control. Like, you have this tool, you have this technique that I believe can shape your destiny, so use it. Is there anyone you've worked on with tapping that didn't get results?

• 1:06:46Speaker 00

  Yeah, I mean, for sure, right? Like, um, when I was writing my book on pain relief, I would work with people who were in pain and, um, it didn't work a hundred percent of the time, you know? There, it's not like all pain is all psychological. It's a component. Did we potentially open a door, right? Did we potentially open a door so they got up and exercised and now went to the right doctor or the right naturopath or the right herbalist to help them move along? Like, so I'm not like, I'm the tapping guy and I'm not like, this is a hundred percent cure for everything you have in your life. Right? And you're never gonna have any problems or any stress again, or any roadblocks. Um, so yeah, I've seen times when it's been, you know, oh, man, I wish it worked. Right. Um, usually,

• 1:07:32Speaker 00

  if I have the time to dig and if there's the willingness, we're gonna get somewhere. Yeah. You know, we're gonna get somewhere. And there, there has to be the willingness. If you're closed off and guarded, then you're probably not gonna get any results. Yeah, you know, what's funny is just the physical component. Like, people say, is it a placebo effect? Like, do you have to believe in it? I remember driving to a Yankees game with my buddy who, he still thinks I'm crazy, but, you know, he really thought I was crazy then. He had hurt his arm playing football. I had just heard about the tapping. I was like, the running joke was, don't say anything is wrong around Nick, cause he'll make you tap on it, you know? I said, just try this thing for your shoulder. And he's looking at me like, you gotta be. Kidding me, you know, like we're driving in the car. I'm showing it to him, tapping blah, blah.

• 1:08:12Speaker 00

  He's gone, shoulder opens up, right? So something happened physically there that let go. He thought I was crazy. He didn't believe it. The placebo effect was not in place, you know, and something changed. So.

• 1:08:23Lewis Howes?

  That's cool. Well, I would acknowledge you for a moment, Nick, for healing so many people and giving people the opportunity to have a tool. That can heal themselves ongoingly. I think there's so much suffering and lack of peace within people. And for you to give people and be the champion of this and out there every single day committed to it when people know, maybe it's not popular. At certain times and maybe it's challenging at certain times, but for you to continue to be the driving force and give back to so many people. Who are suffering, you're making a massive impact. So I want to acknowledge you for your incredible gift and support and empathy and compassion for. Human beings in the world.

• 1:09:04Speaker 00

  Thank you, my friend. It's it's an honor. It's an honor. Thank you for having me on.

• 1:09:07Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, uh, got one final question.

• 1:09:11Lewis Howes?

  Besides, besides getting the book, where's the best site for you?

• 1:09:14Speaker 00

  Yeah, the tapping solution.com.

• 1:09:17Lewis Howes?

  The tapping solution.com. Awesome. And the final question is, what's your definition of greatness?

• 1:09:27Speaker 00

  You know, being a little bit better today than you were yesterday, loving a little more, being a little kinder. Like opening your heart a little more.

• 1:09:38Speaker 00

  Being vulnerable.

• 1:09:41Speaker 00

  Being willing to take risks. Being willing to say, tell people how you feel.

• 1:09:50Speaker 00

  The actions that we do and you and I are action guys, right? But that's just on top of it, right? That's just all this noise around it. To me, the greatness is and just.

• 1:10:04Speaker 00

  Be more loving, caring about our fellow man. I mean, it seems like it's gotten so lost, you know, that just that concept, like, do, do we feel responsible for each other? You know, we can be capitalist and we can be like growth oriented and we can want to change the world and we can want to make money, like, we can be successful and we can also deeply care about our fellow human beings. Yeah. And to me, that's greatness. Like, if you're walking around deeply caring about the people in your life, that's greatness. Hmm.

• 1:10:33Lewis Howes?

  Nick Ortner, thank you, man. Appreciate you, man.

• 1:10:37Lewis Howes?

  I hope you enjoyed this one. If you did, make sure to share it with your friends. LewisHowes.com/547. Nick Ortner is making a massive impact in the world and something as simple as tapping and really tapping on different points in your body and expressing and channeling out some emotions or some trauma, putting words to the things that are frustrating you and allowing your body to release it. This is all part of the process, guys, of living into your greatness. If you want to be great, you need to be able to express your emotions and get them out in a comfortable, safe way that doesn't hurt people, that doesn't cause pain in other people, that doesn't lash out into arguments or fights or all the things

• 1:11:20Lewis Howes?

  that have been happening that creates so much conflict in the world. So make sure to check out more, share this out if you enjoyed this, LewisHowes.com/547. And if you want to watch the full exercise, you'll see the video there where you can watch Caesar go through his transformation where he was tapping as well. And you see his neck completely turning at the end of the exercise. Also, School of Greatness Academy is open for the 11th class, guys. Some powerful people all over the world have joined to fully dive in, overcome their challenges, their fears, and start achieving their goals that they've had all year. So step up. It's at LewisHowes.com/Soga. You can get signed up today. Class

• 1:12:05Lewis Howes?

  starts today. Go to LewisHowes.com/Soga right now. Also, the Mask of Masculinity, guys, if you haven't pre-ordered. Yeah, go to maskofmasculinity.com. Get a few copies. Get a copy for your friends. Give them out as gifts. You can also get a signed copy at lewishouse.com/sign. It's S-I-G-N. So again, make sure to pick up a copy. You've got some bonuses. If you get one copy, we give you guys some bonuses. So check out what those are at maskofmasculinity.com. And again, you'll never find peace of mind until you listen to your heart. George Michael said that. I hope you guys start to connect to your heart and start to express the things that you

• 1:12:47Lewis Howes?

  need to share the most because that'll help you heal the mind and relieve that stress as well. I love you and you know what time it is. It's time to go out there and do something great.