SC EP:1255 Strange And Unexplained Part1

Matt writes "Hey Wes, I have a crazy story from my time on the railroad involving what I believe was a squatch, plus a strange frogman encounter I experienced when I was much younger around 21 or 22. I'm turning 42 soon." I spoke with the witness, who is from Massachusetts, and he shared several unsettling experiences that happened while working the rail lines. According to him, there was one particular stretch of track where strange activity was common. During one incident, the train was stopped when he suddenly heard something massive crashing through the air from the tree line about 30 feet behind him. What happened next shocked everyone on site. A tree had been hurled like a spear, striking one of the rail cars with enough force to pierce straight through it, leaving the trunk protruding from both sides. One of his co-workers immediately told him, "That was Sasquatch." The witness went on to describe several other bizarre incidents in the area and said workers were often warned not to talk about what they experienced out there. We will also be speaking to Jacob. In March of 2026 Jacob and his friend were in Florida driving on the highway when they noticed a ball of light following them over the bed of the truck.

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:05Wes Germer?

  The Pentagon releases declassified UFO files.

• 0:12Wes Germer?

  Alright, I'll play along. I'll see what these two donkeys have to say.

• 0:17Speaker 01

  Congressman, Tim Burchett is with us with more. I gotta first give you credit. You've been fighting for this information to be made public for a long time. Thank you for the fight that you're in. I think it runs a lot deeper. The most compelling information I saw was from our own astronauts on top of the videos. But you know a lot more than that, don't you?

• 0:41Wes Germer?

  No, Sean, he doesn't.

• 0:43Speaker 02

  I do, and I do wanna personally thank President Trump for keeping his word to me personally. We had a long conversation and I brought that up to him and he said he was gonna get it out there and that gummed he kept his word. And you know, but I wanna warn people though, this early stuff that we're seeing is not all of it.

• 1:01Wes Germer?

  No kidding.

• 1:01Speaker 02

  And this is just the tip of the iceberg. But Trump's having to fight, you know, he's having to fight the deep state. And it's just, and the next files will be tougher to get, but I suspect he'll get them 'cause he is Trump, he knows how to work this thing.

• 1:16Wes Germer?

  Don't hold your breath Congressman.

• 1:17Speaker 02

  And until that day comes though, there's still gonna be more and more and there's gonna be more questions.

• 1:23Speaker 01

  Okay, when you watch the, as for the Bob Lazar story, which I know you're very familiar with. He's saying we have aircraft, do we?

• 1:40Wes Germer?

  He doesn't know.

• 1:41Speaker 02

  I think we do, but I don't think they're in quite in our hands. I think what they've done is handed out to some of our defense contractors or some private entities because that way they're not FOIA-able, Freedom of Information Act.

• 1:54Wes Germer?

  Now we're getting somewhere. You wanna know what the deep state is? It's not the Wizard of Oz behind the curtain, it's private contractors. And in 1950, the US government started using private contractors. Why? There was this little kooky incident that happened in 1947 near Roswell.

• 2:17Wes Germer?

  And Americans generally don't trust the government and will force them to pass laws to share what they know. You can submit a Freedom of Information Act and the government has so much time to where they have to release that information. But with a third-party company, you can go to Boeing or any of these other companies and say, "I want to see this, I want to see that," and they'll just tell you to go after yourself.

• 2:43Speaker 02

  Quite in our hands. I think what they've done is hand it out to some of our defense contractors or some private entities because that way they're not FOIA-able. Freedom of Information Act, say, "We handed something off to Ford Motor Company." We haven't, I don't think, but if we had, and me as a congressman could not FOIA that from Ford, but I could if it was the FBI, if we really trusted them to give us the right information, which I don't always. But I think that's what they've done with it. And they've compartmentalized this stuff so much, Sean, that it's very difficult. You'll have somebody within one department tell you that it does not exist. We don't, you know, a little guy with a man bun in the Biden administration telling me we don't have data points on this.

• 3:24Speaker 02

  And then, you know, the next week, I'm getting briefed by somebody in his own, in the same alphabet agency that's telling me that in fact they do exist and here's the footage of what we're seeing and we don't know what they are. And why in the world would these pilots, go ahead, I'm sorry.

• 3:40Speaker 01

  Well, I mean, the astronauts aren't going to lie. It makes it seem like a certainty that people that know like yourself and Marco Rubio, that you guys know, that government officials already know. So hopefully this is the beginning of many disclosures. I mean, I'm sure you've watched The Age of Disclosure.

• 4:02Wes Germer?

  He was actually in the movie, Sean.

• 4:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm in it a little bit. So, yeah, I saw it. And thank God for people like Lou Alizondo and so many other real patriots because, you know, Lou was sort of like Bob Lazar, you know, they came out and said, "Oh, he didn't do that," and they tried to discredit him. And, you know, Lazar, they even said he didn't work for them and he produced a dadgum check stub to show that he did work for them. And so, you know, it's the same program. There's arrogance, there's power, there's control. They think they know what we can handle and it's not their business to know that. And President Trump hit that nail right on the dadgum head.

• 4:41Speaker 01

  We really appreciate your hard work and I think the American people can handle whatever it is and I think there is a lot more Congressman Burchett you're doing a great job.

• 4:51Speaker 03

  What would you say you do here?

• 4:56Wes Germer?

  Exactly.

• 5:04Speaker 04

  It looked like somebody was bent over and had their head in the window of the deer blind and it either heard me or smelled me and he pulled his head out of the tent and stood straight up and that shocked me.

• 5:25Speaker 04

  They don't make people that big.

• 5:32Speaker 01

  The way it moved, almost as if it was gliding across the beach. I've never seen anything move like that in my life.

• 5:46Speaker 01

  They were screaming at each other in gibberish. It sounded like a language and they were chuntering away, back and forwards, back and forwards, back and forwards.

• 5:58Speaker 01

  I know what a bear looks like and there is no way on this planet that what I saw were bears.

• 6:16Speaker 01

  911, what are you reporting? Jesus Christ, you better... Sheriff, see ya!

• 6:21Speaker 05

  Hello? Get somebody out here. What's going on now, sir? That son of a bitch is about six foot nine, I don't know. Do you see him now, sir? Yes, I'm looking right at him. Uh-oh.

• 6:36Speaker 05

  This is Alicia from Kennesaw, Georgia and you're listening to the best podcast on the planet, Sasquatch Chronicles.

• 7:10Wes Germer?

  Welcome to the show. Tonight is my part one of strange and unexplained encounters. We'll be speaking with Matt and Matt comes to us from Massachusetts and he had this really weird encounter with what I guess I'll call a person. I've heard this one other time and a lot of his details sound like the other person I talked to and I kind of passed it off as maybe it was a Sasquatch, but now I'm not so sure. I know that's extremely vague, but I'll let Matt go into it. Matt also worked on the railroad and a lot of weird things happened in this one area of the tracks that he

• 7:53Wes Germer?

  would constantly work. And then we'll be chatting with Jacob and back in March, Jacob and a friend of his was returning from a trip down in Florida when this ball of light was following them. Jacob told me, you know, as they started to get nervous about it, he turned around and it blinked out. It was gone. And tomorrow night is even stranger. I'll let the members decide on this one. I'm 50/50 on this one. I don't know if this guy ran into another human or if he ran into a Sasquatch and this quote unquote, human couldn't really talk. It would just mumble. And when you

• 8:33Wes Germer?

  listen to the witnesses description of this quote unquote, person, I mean, it does sound more like a Sasquatch than it does a person, but that's for tomorrow night. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. My email address is [email protected]. And if you had a chance, check out SasquatchChronicles.com. You can become a member and get additional shows and I'll see the members back tomorrow night. Let's jump into it. I want to welcome Matt to the show. Matt, thanks for coming on.

• 9:13Speaker 03

  Thank you, Wes. Glad to be here.

• 9:15Wes Germer?

  Yeah, I appreciate you being here. And the very first encounter I want to talk about happened to you in the early 2000s. And this happened out there in Massachusetts. If you would walk us into what happened, what were you doing and what did you end up seeing?

• 9:31Speaker 03

  I was, um, living down in Westport. Um, it was the late spring of 2006. My ex's father had found this pretty cool spot to take the quads out by, uh, some power lines. Kind of like, it's like the woods on the edge of Dartmouth and, and Westport. Um, it's been a lot of years since I've been there. And, uh, it was one Saturday morning. I didn't have any work. My, my ex's dad had said, hey, the trailer soaked up to my truck. If you want to, you know, throw your bike on it and go take it out for a little while. Um, at that time, my ex and her mother had gone out shopping and my daughter was, you know, not even a year old at the time. So they went off and did their own thing for the day. And I was, I was like, okay, cool. So I loaded up my quad.

• 10:15Speaker 03

  Um, I had an old blaster at the time. Mechanically it was sound, uh, visually looked like it was being held together with, with duct tape and bubble gum. It was just living on a dream and, uh, he, you know, kind of pointed me in the right direction of where this was. I'd been there, you know, a couple, couple, three times, but never, never with the quad, just doing, you know, normal. It's stuff. So I got out there, got the, got the, uh, quad off to the edge of the, the trail leading into like the power lines and, um, loaded everything back up in the truck, all the ratchet straps and whatnot. Locked the truck up and, you know, went on about my way. I got about, I don't know, 10 or 15 minutes into it.

• 10:55Speaker 03

  And the way that this, these power lines are set up, it's literally just straight. But you can see for over two miles. It's just straight. Not a lot of bumps. And, um, we'd, we'd gotten quads up, you know, pretty, pretty high speed coming through there. I was probably doing about 40, 45. I also want to note about, I, I, we're going back some years. I wasn't really judging distances back then, but I'd say probably about. Three quarters to a mile from where I had parked the truck, there's a big bowl like in the middle of of this trail. And we used to, you know, come off the edge of that trail, into the bowl, catch air, come down and catch air again on the backside of this bowl.

• 11:38Speaker 03

  Well, on the other side of this bowl, there is a giant rock. It's probably about 10 feet tall. I couldn't even tell you the other. I never really stopped to look at this rock. I mean, it's a rock. I never really, you know, paid attention to it. This one particular day, it's out there by myself. It's probably about 75 degrees. I knew it was warmer. I had a T-shirt on. And I see this guy walk out of the woods, wearing all blue tracksuit, hair sunglasses. Um, he had darker hair. I don't remember if it was black. I never got close enough to him anyway. Uh, clean shaved face. And he was kind of moving like, like jelly, like he he is so fluid in motion. He didn't like, take normal steps. And he, at that point, must have heard my quad because he he stopped walking forward, turned his

• 12:23Speaker 03

  head to the right, looked at me. And then, did this, I don't even, it's like, in, I don't even know how to explain it. It's not a human like motion. He jumped, straight up in the air, landed right on top of this rock, and perched up like a frog. I call him a frog man. But he didn't like bend his knees and jump. You know what I mean? Like, like a normal person when they're about to jump? It's like he jumped off the balls of his feet and is like, I I can't explain it. Nobody can jump like that. Like, it's a weird, it was, it was so weird. And when he landed, perched up like a frog, butt on the ground, knees, you know, kind of pointed up to his chest and feet right between his, their hands right between his feet. Looked like a frog. I, I, that's why I call him the frog man. I don't, I don't know what else to, and his head was bobbing up and

• 13:07Speaker 03

  down. And he creeped the shit out of me. I slammed on front, back brakes in my quad, and just looked at it for a second. And his head was just doing this weird bob thing. And I literally blew a donut right there and the trail went right back to the truck. How was he able to that? No way, no way. The weirdest thing I've ever seen. It creeped me out. I tried to tell my, um, my ex at the time about it. She's like, what are, what are you really saying right now? I'm like, never mind. I guess, nothing. I saw nothing. Never mind. And I got, when I got back to the house, my ex's dad was like, damn, that was quick. And I was like, yeah, I guess I'm just not, uh, not feeling it today. But that was, that was the incident that happened down in Westport, Darby Bay area, 20, 20 years ago, 2006.

• 13:48Wes Germer?

  How far away from you was he, Matt? And if you would, would you describe him?

• 13:54Speaker 03

  Well, I'm six foot tall and I've stood next to this rock before and the rocks, like I said, it's got to be easily 10 feet. It's taller than I am, much taller than I am. Yeah, I'd have to climb up it. Like you, there's no way anybody could jump that high. And I've got friends that do CrossFit. I even have a friend who owns a CrossFit gym. And there's, there's no way, no, absolutely no way without doing some sort of knee bending. Um, as far as how far away he was, probably 50 yards, 60 yards, maybe.

• 14:23Wes Germer?

  His overall appearance, did it appear like a man or did it appear like a frog?

• 14:29Speaker 03

  No, he looked completely human. That's the part that was weird. It was completely human, just like a normal Joe. If you saw him on the side of the road, you wouldn't even think about it. I was just so crazy. I've never been back to this spot, even, even I lived down in that area for another seven years. I never once went back there. Because that's how, how much it creeped me out. He, um, it's like, it's like, he didn't even jump. He just like, something picked him up off the ground and placed him like, that's how, like there was no body movement when he jumped. He just poof, looked like Mario. You know what I mean? Like boing, like right up, just perched up on a rock. And his head was doing this weird bobble thing. It was, it was, it was, it was very odd, very odd. Just a normal person. He was clean shaved, you know, normal looking face, normal looking mouth, nose, ears. Everything was normal. Pair of sunglasses. That was it.

• 15:15Speaker 03

  I, I remember the sunglasses because it wasn't really, it was like partly cloudy. Like it wasn't, you know what I mean? Like I didn't, I was riding a quad and I didn't even have glasses on. And I was like, why is he wearing sunglasses? It's not even that bright out. He was in the woods. You know? I don't know. It was one of those things that stuck out to me over the years, thinking about it and, you know, trying to, trying to make some rationalization of somebody moving in a, in a like non-human way.

• 15:40Wes Germer?

  You know, I think it's in Ohio. They have the Loveland Frog Frogman. And I've never really paid that much attention to it. About three years ago, there was a guy in your general area that I interviewed. He didn't want it to air on the show because it was so weird. But it was at night and what he told me that he saw was this humanoid figure. He said it looked like a man. He's more or less watching the outline of of this thing, a little bit more than an outline, but I remember him talking about the way it jumped and the way it kind of landed. And he described it kind of like a frog, like how you are.

• 16:22Wes Germer?

  And, you know, I was thinking of maybe the Loveland Frog incident. But I mean, this sounds like a man. I mean, well, his appearance, anyway. What do you think it was? Do you think it was someone who was like possessed?

• 16:36Speaker 03

  I have no idea. I mean, I've, I honestly have no idea. I had no idea. For a long time, I didn't even think about it. I'm like, I just, maybe I just didn't see that. That's fine. But, you know, I did. I know what I saw. I was there. It freaked me out enough to, you know, to beat on my quad a little more and rip a pretty big donut and go away. It is crazy. As I was riding back, you know, at full speed at this point, I turned my head and looked back. He was still sitting on the rock. Like, I know, you know, other instances of like Sasquatch will walk people out of the woods, chase them out, you know, intimidation. This guy did nothing. He just sat, continued until I lost sight of him. That was, that was the end of it.

• 17:19Speaker 03

  I mean, so I looked at him. I glanced. He was still there, freaked out again, kept driving. I was never, never looked back further past that point. It was the most creepiest thing I've ever seen. I didn't know somebody could jump like that. It's, it's, it's a pretty high jump. Like nobody, I don't, there's no way. I don't care if you, how far you bent down to the ground to get leverage. There's no way you could jump 10 feet, as easily 10 feet.

• 17:40Wes Germer?

  Yeah, it's very strange. And he was wearing clothes and everything?

• 17:44Speaker 03

  Yeah, an all blue tracksuit.

• 17:46Wes Germer?

  Yeah, now it makes me wonder. Well, I wonder what you saw, but now it makes me wonder what that other guy saw because I know he was kind of in your same general area of Dartmouth and

• 17:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's right on the west border line. That's right where I was like if you drive far enough into those woods, if you go past that bowl where that where he was, where he did that that weird frog jump. Probably another, oh, Jesus, I had 200 yards. You're in Dartmouth.

• 18:11Wes Germer?

  Yeah, now I'm really going back and kind of thinking about that interview I had with that guy because he kind of said the same thing. His was at night, though. It wasn't during the day. And it was a little bit better than an outline, but I remember him talking about, he said it was kind of humanoid. I mean, it reminded him of a man. And it kind of did the same thing, like it would jump really high and really far. And he said it land, when it would land, it would land like a frog. And I was seeing Sasquatch at the time, but I'd never heard of them doing something like that.

• 18:46Speaker 03

  Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same person or thing or whatever. I mean, I saw him clear as day. It was, it was one o'clock in the afternoon, maybe noon time. I saw him clear as clear as day. He's, it's weird. Like I said, I would, I saw him come out of the woods and I didn't think anything of it until he did that weird jump and just a full vertical jump like it like without any kind of, you know, uh, any kind of physical exertion, just jumped right up.

• 19:14Wes Germer?

  You know, I interviewed this guy, this veteran. This is many, many shows ago. And he was telling me when he was in Iraq, um, he was walking down this alleyway, a pretty wide alleyway. And he sees this guy and they make eye contact and then the guy walks up the wall. And I said, whoa, what, what do you mean? He walked up the wall like he, he goes, yeah, exactly. He walked up the wall like gravity didn't apply to this guy. And I was like, was he, um, was it a ghost? And he's like, no, this looked like any other villager. He had clothes. He had, I mean,

• 19:55Wes Germer?

  he was solid and he just walked right up this wall and it freaked this guy out. I remember the soldier, I guess he talked to the locals and they basically told him he had run into a gin, which in the Muslim culture is the same thing as like in the Christian culture, we call them demons. But it was a strange account. I mean, I don't know if it was something like that that you ran into. I don't know. I'm kind of at a loss. Even the gin story, I was kind of at a loss.

• 20:23Speaker 03

  I have no idea. I never questioned it afterwards. I thought about it. It was one of those things you gotta keep to yourself. I remember a couple of months after I tell my mom about it and she was, she's like, what are you, what are you, what are you saying right now? And I'm like, I guess nothing. Never mind. Everybody was, you know, the two people I told about this were, you know, pretty in disbelief. And I was like, okay, I guess I'm just, how about those, how about this, we have a saying here, how about those Red Sox? Just to change the subject. How about those Red Sox?

• 20:51Wes Germer?

  Yeah, I hear you. I really wish I had a better answer for you. I've only heard it one other time. And like I said, I mean, looking back now, I'm kind of wondering what that guy actually saw. Tell me about working for the railroad and some of the different things that have happened out there. When was this? And if you would, kind of walk me into some of this strangeness that happened out there.

• 21:15Speaker 03

  This was only a couple of years ago. So like I had said, I'd been in my industry for 20 something years and I got sick of it. You know, I needed a change of pace. So I had seen an ad for railroad and I was, okay, cool. Let's try it. I started working there early 2023. By June, I had left the union and took a supervisor position, night shift supervisor position. It was, nothing changed for me. I was already on night shift anyway. I still had kept this to the same two days off. Railroad days off were weird. I had Tuesday, Wednesday off. That was my weekend. And when this incident happens was

• 21:53Speaker 03

  October of 2023. The way the railroad works, you have to have somebody at the tail of the train. If you're doing a backwards boat, you know, backwards movement and The crew had wanted to get out a little earlier, so I was like, okay, I'll go protect it. That's fine. So I was sitting out in the yard that we had five miles long. And you have your main line and then they had like a siding line. And that's where the, uh, the main railroad company would drop off the train. We'd bring the train into the yard, stack it in five, you know, five car length rows. And it was all auto racks that would unload all the vehicles off it and we'd stack the cars back empty.

• 22:35Speaker 03

  Put them back out on the siding for the, the rail company come and pick up. And that would just be a repetitive process, day after day after day. Day shift was in charge of putting them on, on, on the tracks. We were in charge of taking the empty ones off and putting them back out. So it was the final, final movement of the night was like the last 15 or 16 cars in the yard. We were putting out, um, I don't, you know, a train system works, works off, uh, compressed air. When there's no air in the system, the brakes are completely applied. When you add air to the system, it releases the brakes. That's how it can move. Each rail car is held together with like an air hose coupling, but a big air hose too. It's thick, it's probably as thick as a baseball bat. It's, it's, it's a big air hose.

• 23:18Speaker 03

  So when you hook in with, you know, a little bit of cars into a lot of it of cars, it takes a while to air all that up. So anywhere from, you know, 15 to 20 minutes or whatever, you'd sit there and wait to, to air it up. Depending on who was driving and depending on whether they wanted their overtime that week, it could take longer. You get what I'm saying? Um, so I was sitting out the tail. Um, I had the pickup truck for the yard and this pickup truck has every LED light option possible on the outside. You know, I'm talking like a light bar on the grill, one on the roof, right above the windshield. It's got the LED bulbs on the side of the bed and it, it lights up. You can see, uh, if you're out in the middle of it and on the tracks, you know, what we call the siding.

• 24:03Speaker 03

  You're out on the siding with those, every those lights on, you can see, depending on where you're at, a good quarter mile. I'm just, it's just so bright, like everything is so bright. So I was sitting there and I was waiting for, um, Waiting for the uh the engineer to give me the signal that everything's aired up and he's ready to move. And I can tell him, you know, he's clear for however X amount of cars he can you can keep, you know, start moving. And I was sitting there and my my phone had just died, like my personal phone had just died. And um so I was bummed out about that. I'm like, ah, what am I gonna do now for twenty minutes? And anyway, this tree.

• 24:43Speaker 03

  And it's it's a limb. I want to say it's definitely a limb because it had no other branches off of it. Comes flying out of the woods like a spear, right into the side of the railcar, impales it. And it touches the inside of the other, the other side of the railcar. And it's just sticking out of the railcar. Thing had to weigh, it's probably thirty feet long. Uh, at the fat end was roughly about, I don't know, probably two feet around. At the skinny pointy end was about a foot. And something through it with so much force, it impaled the railcar right through it. Like a spear. It looked like, and I I hunt a lot. And it looks like, honestly, what it looked like, uh, I don't know if you, you know, ever hunted or use a compound bow. But like when you we launch an arrow down into like a foam block.

• 25:28Speaker 03

  If you're looking, you can see the tail end of the uh of the arrow shaking where the where the the knock is. And I'm like, oh, my God, it's I I I it. My heart sank right down to my feet. I'm like, what? What is that? What am I looking at? So I threw my truck in reverse. I got on the radio, told the engineer to dump the train. Because I, you know, I didn't know what it was. Thing's sticking out thirty feet past. If the train came by, it's gonna hit it. So I um. Threw it in reverse, got to the turnaround point behind me and um started heading back towards our, like, you know, our main yard. And I called my uh my supervisor at the time and I told him what had happened. And he said, oh, my God, all right, I'm getting dressed. I'll be there in like forty minutes. He lived like forty minutes away.

• 26:09Speaker 03

  I said, all right, cool. I got down to the locomotive, told the engineer in person what had happened. And he's like, what? I'm like, yeah, yep, something launched a tree out of the woods. And I got a, just for some context, the clearing from like tree line to tree line is roughly about two hundred feet.

• 26:29Speaker 03

  And with the brightness of the truck with all the LEDs on it, you can see a good 15, 20 feet into the tree line. It was nothing there, nothing there at all. So something threw this thing far and hard enough to impale a rail car. So I went back to, you know, waiting for the supervisor to get my supervisor to get on site and it was gone. Limb is gone, pulled out, just a big basketball sized hole in the rail car. Um, some bark on the ground and some bark on the inside of the rail car. That's it. Limb is just missing. Like somebody reached up, grabbed it and walked off with it. No wood, no splinters, just, you know, bark in a, in a giant perfectly, you know, round hole on the side of the rail car where it got impaled.

• 27:12Wes Germer?

  Oh man, I'm not even sure what to say. I've heard some strange accounts from guys who work on the railroad, but what was kind of going through your mind, especially going back and it's gone?

• 27:24Speaker 03

  That's, that creeped me out more than, than watching it happen like in, in real time. Like I was, it's crazy. It's one of those things that you people would be like, were you sure you didn't catch that out of the corner? I know I, I was looking straight ahead. It was only about 30 feet away from me, probably about, I don't know, maybe 10, 10, 12 feet off the ground. I mean, a rail car for these specific rail cars, just for, for context, they're about 145 feet long, 20 feet tall. And I don't know, 10, maybe 12 feet wide, big enough for a vehicle, you know, full size truck.

• 28:00Wes Germer?

  You know, there's, there's a lot of weird accounts around the railroad and around railroad workers. And I've heard some odd ones. And I don't know what your feelings about Sasquatch were at the time, but I mean, a man's not going to throw that. I can't think of anything. I mean, if you don't believe in Sasquatch, then it must've been a giant that threw that. Beyond, thank God that didn't hit me. I mean, what did you think actually threw that, that tree? Especially like a spear. Jesus.

• 28:31Speaker 03

  Oh, I've always been a firm believer of Sasquatch. I mean,

• 28:35Speaker 03

  I mean, look at it this way, aliens exist. Like, we know this because our own government has released all the files they had. So why wouldn't you think that something like that exists as well? Like, you know what I mean? Like, I think, I think aliens is pretty much top of the, top of the line. You know what I mean? Like, that's, that's one of those things that kind of destroys religion a little bit. And, uh, that's the first thing within my head. I was like, it had to have been something like that. What else could throw a 400-pound, 300-pound branch like, like a Spartan spear? Like, I was like, is Gerard Butler in the woods? I didn't know what was going on. I, it was, it was, it was such a wild sight to see this thing fly perfectly straight. It wasn't flying like, like the tail of it dipped down. It was perfectly straight. Like, something purposely threw this.

• 29:19Speaker 03

  And it, it's funny, I, I've listened to, you know, some of your shows and you hear all these, you know, they see these things. And how the gutter people understand the, the sheer strength they actually do have. And I got, at least for me, it was reverse. I saw the strength. I never saw what threw it. But if, if I, that's the case, I don't ever want to see what threw that.

• 29:40Wes Germer?

  Yeah, I don't blame you. And then to have it not be there, to have something actually pull it out when you went back to look at it. That is weird, man. What happened when your supervisor got there?

• 29:51Speaker 03

  Oh, he's like, you know, we're just gonna pretend this never happened. Don't ever tell anybody this because you're, you're, you're gonna need an evaluation. It's like, I'm just, I'm like, I looked at, we'll call him Bill. I'm like, Bill, you, you can see the hole. You can see the bark. You know, I'm not crazy. You can see the evidence. So like, who, how'd that happen? Tell me. I'd love to, I'd love to hear your explanation of how you think that perfect, round basketball-sized hole wound up in the side of that railcar. With all the tree bark all over the place. I'd love to hear your explanation. He's like, well, you know, it's windy here. And I'm like, there's no wind, dude. Let's not, let's not. It just kind of just got dropped, brushed off.

• 30:32Speaker 03

  Oh, we had, but he was even through a little, well, maybe, maybe, you know, a hot main came by and hit it. And I'm like, well, if that was the case, they would have hit it at windshield level of the logo. And the driver would have dumped the train or put in the suppression. Something would have happened. We would have heard them come by. I mean, even the regulation for, for the company around here is when they're coming through the signals at each end of our yard, they have to radio ahead to make sure we're not out there. Or somebody's not, you know, and we have to confirm that there's nobody out there. So there's like a three point like radio response that actually absolutely has to happen. If it doesn't, they will sit and wait until you confirm you're not in the way. They don't just drive through.

• 31:14Wes Germer?

  Yeah. And to have him kind of dismiss it is weird. I know from talking to you last night, there was other things that happened in this general area. But his explanation of like the wind, I mean, unless there was like a hurricane that went through there.

• 31:30Speaker 03

  No, there was definitely no hurricane. I can confirm that. It was like I said, it was beginning of October. Probably secondly, the hunting season had just started here. It usually starts around like the, the seventh or so in October, uh, depending on where in the state you live. But I mean, yeah, no, it was no wind. I mean, that, that leaves are just starting to fall. I mean, it was, you know, like I said, I could see into the woods. And that's not even one of the weirdest things I've, there's so many weird things that I've had happen on that railroad at night. Over the, uh, almost two years I worked there.

• 32:02Wes Germer?

  Yeah. Tell me about some of the weird things.

• 32:05Speaker 03

  So it's very not on, it's not uncommon at all, uh, for deer to get hit by trains. And I'm sure you can imagine what happens to a deer that gets hit by a, uh, you know, a freight train and it's two miles long, traveling at 40, 50 miles an hour. I mean, there's pieces and parts go everywhere. There was one night I was protecting it again. This was, it was in the summer of this same exact year. And I was driving down, there's a, a spot on the siding where you get onto the siding from the main road. And I was just, just at that point. And it's at the same exact, almost the same exact point as, you know, the tree branch. And to come to think of it, all the weird incidences have happened around that same exact area of, of the yard.

• 32:46Speaker 03

  And I was driving and I look, you know, look up and I can see a bunch of deer laying on the, on the, not on the tracks, but on the, the driving part of the siding. And as I'm driving, I'm protecting it so I can't stop. So I drove, you know, did my thing, but protected it and. You know, the crew took over after that, you know, cutting away and all that stuff. And I drove back and I'm looking at these deer. They're completely intact, not a drop of blood, not nothing, no blood, no nothing, nothing there. And their necks are twisted. Look, there's somebody snapped, something snapped their necks. There were six of them, six does. Just heads completely twisted around. That was it. Just left there and like a, in a, in a pile. Very odd.

• 33:28Speaker 03

  They just left it like it didn't even bother. They just, it was, it was almost like they're trying to block the road with deer. You know what I mean? It's very, it's very unsettling, especially it's, and first thing went through my head is me being a hunter was, ah, what a waste, you know? Those are some good, some good potential, potential deer when, when we run out of, uh, bug tags here. And I don't know if this is anything related, but we, there's some giant snapping turtles there around, around the pond portion of the, uh, of the yard. And I'm talking like thirty, forty pound snapping turtles. Shell is completely hollowed out.

• 34:02Speaker 03

  There was one time in the winter that year, it was probably, you know, it might've even been January of twenty twenty four. I was working the crew because they had a void and, um, the engineer. Wanted his hours. So here he is going out and he dumped the train. Oh, I don't know what just happened. And regulations on railroad regulations are, if that ever happens, you have to walk the entire length of the train, one person on each side. Walk it. So you can see if there was a break in the airlines connecting the, uh, the rail cars. And as I'm walking, I'm on the, let's see if you're facing, the train's facing, you know, uh, to the direction I'm walking.

• 34:41Speaker 03

  I'm on the right-hand side and there was a bear leg, an entire black, there's a big population of black bear there too. It was a whole bear leg just laying there and a blood trail going off into the woods. That was it. And here, we don't have, you know, like mountain lions and all that crazy stuff. I mean, we've got bobcats and such, but nothing that's crazy to take down a black bear. Just a big black bear leg, front leg laying there, ripped. It was ripped. It was ripped off. Like you could tell by the, uh, the way the meat was torn. It was just ripped off. And it wasn't there a couple hours before and we weren't out there and it was on like our yard side of the main line.

• 35:21Speaker 03

  So it definitely, there had been a splatter. Unfortunately, this just sounds disgusting, but I've watched, I've watched deer get hit by the train. And it's kind of like the pink mist is just poof. You know, it's, a freight train has a big snow plow on the front of it. It's like a big blade. You hit, you know, you hit a deer, it's just, I'm sorry, it's going to pop. It is what it is. All of it's in the same area, like a good half mile to a mile stretch of this, this controlled sighting.

• 35:50Wes Germer?

  Yeah, it's very interesting that it's all kind of happening in the same area along the tracks. All the deer being piled up with their necks broke and that bear leg. In all your time out there, did you ever see the lights we talk about on the show in this general area?

• 36:08Speaker 03

  You know, I did see something with lights. I don't know if it's the same thing that you have had, had other, other people mention. So at the far east end of our yard, there's a turnaround right by the signal. And there's no, really no access roads. And I had just got done protecting a movement and I had to drive down further, probably another, I don't know, half mile, three quarters mile to hit this turnaround spot. And when I did that, you know, turn around and came back and I seen these two, I thought they were headlights because they were perfectly spaced apart. And just high enough off the ground, it would, you, anybody would think it's headlights. It came and I stopped the truck because there's only room for one vehicle to go through there.

• 36:52Speaker 03

  And, um, the headlights just turned off. So I was sitting there for a minute and I'm like, I don't know what's going on. So I threw up all the side lights and, um, nothing was there, nothing at all. Nothing was there. It was just like a vehicle had just disappeared. Nothing was there. I don't know what else to say about it. It was just gone.

• 37:12Speaker 03

  So I don't know if that's what that is. It looked like, honestly, it just looked like headlights.

• 37:17Wes Germer?

  Yeah, that's a very strange account. I want to go back to the spear for a moment. If that was a Sasquatch, which I don't know what else could do that. What do you make of that behavior? It's almost like it was angry at the train or something.

• 37:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, thinking back about it now, it's, you know, must have been his, his little area for that time being. And me sitting there must have given it an uncomfortable feeling. I don't think it was an aggression towards the train. I think it was a message to me like, dude, leave. Like, yeah, you need to, you need to get out of here. This isn't, this isn't where you want to be. And he was right. That is definitely not where I wanted to be. It is, I wish, I wish that I was allowed to carry my gun with me because after that, I mean, even that aside, we've had issues with like the rail cars that come from Mexico, like the Hondas and stuff. Where there was a, another friend of mine that worked there and he said that he come out on the siding one night and seen three Land Rovers fly down.

• 38:14Speaker 03

  It's a big, good cartel, you know, issue with them hiding stuff in their cars and then coming back to pick them up with the train stuffs. We've, we've opened up rail cars and seen the tires missing, batteries missing, radios ripped out of it. All the quarter panels ripped off of it, but left there. Tires with, you know, just gashes in them, left there. Crazy stuff. So honestly, a lot of the stuff that goes through, through your mind out there is more so like human on human. You know, I don't want everyone to be in that situation, you know, seeing something out there like that. That was in my head long before this tree incident. So, I mean, that was just one more layer. And I'm like, great, I gotta look out for this now too.

• 38:55Speaker 03

  It's just weird stuff, like weird stuff. You can't even explain. You can try to. It's just, it's just odd, very odd behavior. There was a weird owl incident. Oh, I, I gotta know too. Driving up down that siding, I don't think I've ever been in a vehicle that's been hit by so many birds ever. They just fly out of the wood line, slam into the driver's window and then fly back off. An owl, giant owl did it one time. I mean, I'm not a specialist on owls. I don't know what kind it was, but I knew it was an owl. I see the space because it waited right in the window, hit the window of my, the truck I was driving. I was sitting out there one night again, protecting the shelf. Right around the same area and I heard something, you know how an owl sounds like whoo?

• 39:38Speaker 03

  But it was like a grown man like trying to to mimic an owl. It was like whoo? And I was, it kind of made me laugh. I was like, who? That was kids playing around, but it also is one o'clock in the morning. I mean, area where there's really no houses, nobody around. It's a, you know, a quiet little town anyway. And then it happened again, but louder. And I never got creeped out of it. It just, it it made me laugh. It was funny. I was like, that's the best you got? That was the best you could you could do? So that was, that was in the, one of the other incidents and I didn't, I didn't think about it until all the other, you know, started

• 40:15Speaker 03

  cascading onto each other. I'm like, okay, well, obviously there's something, something else there. It was very strange. That was, that was strange, but it was hilarious. At the time, I don't know, I thought it was just hilarious. Somebody trying to imitate an owl, but didn't come anywhere close.

• 40:30Wes Germer?

  You'll often hear eyewitnesses report the owl sound or something mimicking an owl. Uh, some people will say it was like an eight hundred pound owl. I heard it one time in Texas and it really sounded like an owl in the beginning, but as it went on, it started to fall apart. I mean, it sounded more and more like a man. And by the end, I mean, I can't do an owl sound. It sounded like me trying to do an owl sound.

• 40:57Speaker 03

  That's exactly what it sounded like. It sounded like a full grown man on the other side of the train. Trying to sound like an owl, but like the most low pitched voice. It was strange. It was a very low pitched who? And it was clear, clearly who like, and it was dead quiet. There was nothing going on. The train wasn't moving. Nothing was coming. It was, you know, like I said, one o'clock in the morning, we were around there. Um, we were all about to get out of, just about to get out of work. So I mean, it was, uh, yeah, it was noticed. It was, you could, you could hear a pin drop. It was pretty quiet.

• 41:28Wes Germer?

  And I'm curious to know what you think Sasquatch is. Before I ask you that, though, did any of your coworkers ever talk about these creatures possibly being around? I mean, there's a lot of weird stuff going on.

• 41:41Speaker 03

  Um, one guy had mentioned it after the the bear leg incident because it was kind of like at the junction of a railcar, uh, the two railcars. So as we were going down, I yelled to her like, hey, come look at this and you know, the bear leg. And he's like, whoa, he's like, dude, what could do that? I'm like, I don't know. I mean, around most parts, the bear, black bear. I mean, I know they don't generally get big. I mean, we're not talking Kodiak size, but I mean, for for a black bear. Um, they get, they get, you know, decent sized here. I mean, my buddy and I, we had one on our on our kill list and we were hunting and she was, it was a sow and she was roughly about, she was tagged and collared and they were, you know, DCRs, the um,

• 42:21Speaker 03

  like the wildlife division here. They were tracking her movement through, you know, satellite and she was, she was up over 650. As a big black bear. So I mean, but I don't, I don't know what could have done that. And him and he's like, oh, it's a Bigfoot. I'm like, shut up. You know what I mean? Like, shut up, Bigfoot. But yeah, it's uh, in the back of my head, I'm like, he's probably right because what else could rip a leg off like that? It wasn't even near the track. You know what I mean? That I know he didn't get hit because on that side, the only one that could have hit the bear would have been our own engineer. And if he knew that kid, he was very skittish. There was no way. You know, if it, if it rains too hard, he's making it very, very vocalized that it's raining. So if he had hit a bear, we would never have heard the end of it.

• 43:08Wes Germer?

  What do you think Sasquatch is?

• 43:10Speaker 03

  I don't know. I mean, there's so many theories out there. I, I think it's real. I think it's alive. I don't think it's some mystic creature, uh, whether it's from here or from a different, you know, planet or whatever. I think it's, it's just, I don't, I honestly don't know. I'd love, to be honest, I'd love to see one. Just look at it, be like, wow, that's a, that's, that's cool. I'd like to see that. I don't know what it is. I know it, you know, I think it's not human, but I think it's, it's definitely uh, flesh and blood.

• 43:45Wes Germer?

  Yeah, I think that they're very flesh and blood too. I think that's where the fear comes from. You know, you run into something and you realize this thing could do whatever it wanted and there's nothing I could do to stop it. But I really appreciate you taking the time to come on. That first encounter with that weird guy, that'll stay with me. And there was a lot of weird stuff going on at that railroad. I really enjoyed chatting with you, Matt. Thank you again.

• 44:12Speaker 03

  Yeah, man, I appreciate being on. It's been fun.

• 44:27Wes Germer?

  Next up on the show, I want to welcome Jacob. Jacob, thanks for coming on, man.

• 44:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, thank you, Wes. Appreciate you having me on here.

• 44:35Wes Germer?

  And you had this strange encounter back in March. If you would, would you start from the very beginning? What were you doing and what happened?

• 44:44Speaker 01

  Okay, so we were, I had one of my buddies, he's an airline pilot. I'm in the shipping industry. So we kind of, we click, you know, and we're headed back down from, is it 12 hours of Sebring, which is a 12 hour car race in Sebring, Florida. And if you don't know anything about Sebring, Florida, there's nothing out there. It's basically a racetrack. So we're headed back down Highway 27 and there's not a whole lot. There's not a lot of traffic on the road. It's a pretty barren area. A lot of just grass, farmland, and it's very dark. And we're going along and my buddy's driving, it's his truck. He has a Ford Raptor. So it's a, it's a full size truck, which will come into play here in a little bit.

• 45:29Speaker 01

  He says, hey, man, what is that light behind us? And you know, I'm not really thinking too much of it. I look in the side view mirror and I'm like, it was a very dull, it was white. It was very circular. It was a very dull glow. This wasn't some big, bright, shiny light. I mean, I want to emphasize that. It wasn't huge. Between, it's between a baseball and a bowling ball. I would say probably closer to the baseball size, maybe a little bit bigger. This was, it was right off the bed of the truck. And I say he's got a Ford I mean, that truck is it's a pretty big truck, you know, for what it is. So the distance wise,

• 46:12Speaker 01

  that's why I'm trying to use my best depth perception on the size of this thing. It was almost when I was looking in the side view mirror, I mean, it was clearly following us. I mean, there's no doubt about that. And I'm telling my buddy that I know what like we're looking at it at an orb, you know, what that is. I don't know, but I know it wasn't headlights. I mean, like I said, I'm very well versed in navigational lights, beacons, satellites, stars. Of course he is. He's an airline pilot and this wasn't anything like something I've ever seen personally. And I look in the rearview mirror and still clear as day there.

• 46:52Speaker 01

  To me, where it got weird was I undid my seatbelt and I turned around and looked at it. And I would say less than three seconds, the thing disappeared. And it it just disappeared. And I'm not saying it shot off or anything. It's almost like it just disappeared, you know, and it's just, I don't know. I've been thinking about it every night and it's just, it's strange, I guess, to say the least, you know, and that that image is so perfect in my head, you know, what I saw and there's no doubt about what I saw. It's just I really don't know what it was.

• 47:30Wes Germer?

  That is weird how it kind of just vanished on you and you said it was about the size of a bowling ball or softball?

• 47:38Speaker 01

  Well, I would say, like I said, I was trying to use my best depth perception because I want to be as accurate as possible. From the from that distance, you know, if I were to say the bowling ball had was able to light up. You know, it was somewhere between the bowling ball and the baseball. I mean, it wasn't, it wasn't overly huge, to say the least, you know, this was a not a huge object. Um, I would say definitely between.

• 48:03Speaker 01

  The baseball and the bowling ball, exactly how big I have a hard time putting, you know, my, my finger on it, but it was in that 100% in that size range.

• 48:13Wes Germer?

  How close was it to the truck? It's creepy. It was following you.

• 48:19Speaker 01

  Well, see, this is where, this is where we had the talk is where it got really out weird for me. When I first looked at it out the side view mirror. I was thinking, I don't know. I guess it didn't click to me how close this thing really was. And after I turned around, I clearly saw how close it was then. But my buddy that was driving, he said, hey, that thing was literally like almost over the, the bed of the truck. And I was thinking, I was like, it, it was, I mean, that's where it was. And when you say it wasn't following the truck, 100%. And the thing that gets me, the more I think about this, this whole encounter was, how long was it following the truck? You know, if that makes, cause,

• 49:00Speaker 01

  he just happened to look up at that time. I don't know how often he was looking up. He just happened to look in his rearview mirror and see that. Whatever it is, why was it following us? You know? If it wasn't right over the back of the bed of the truck, it was right on the tailgate. I mean, it was, it was there. Like, that's why I mentioned the whole, you know, we're in a Ford Raptor, not a huge truck, but a full sized truck. I don't really know the exact dimensions, but you know, I mean, it's, so from us being in the front seat, I mean, you're talking probably less than 15 feet from us. I mean, that's, that's how close this thing was. Did this thing, it didn't shoot up, you know, I would have definitely like, I have an eye, you know, I can see, you know, it's like, I would have definitely saw like,

• 49:42Speaker 01

  you know, a shooting star. I mean, you're gonna see a thing shoot across the sky. This thing didn't, shoot up, move. Like, it's like wherever it was, it disappeared from that spot, you know? That's, that's the part that.

• 49:55Speaker 01

  The whole thing's creepy, you know, kind of, I have a lot of questions about it, but that part right there was like, all right, that really just happened, you know? And nobody, and that's another issue. I'm glad I had a witness, you know, I had, there was two of us there to say that I'm not crazy, you know?

• 50:14Wes Germer?

  That is weird how it just kind of vanished. I know that you're a merchant marine. I mean, you're used to seeing signals and lights and, you know, this is a light you've never seen before and your buddy's a pilot. What did your buddy say about the whole thing afterwards?

• 50:31Speaker 01

  You know, we, uh, we talked about it and I mean, he said, like, we were both, I mean, were we tired? Yes, but we weren't like hallucinating tired. Like we were just, it's just a long day, you know? And when this happened, we were both like, I mean, ultra alert after that, you know, we were looking, the whole time back home, we both did this, we were hoping that it was a headlight. Like we, I mean, I, I can vividly remember just looking back at the course and thinking, I wish one of those headlights would look like what we just saw. And, uh, it wasn't, it just wasn't. So he, uh, he wasn't as, I say shock, I, I think the adrenaline at the moment, you know, like the, the surprise of it all,

• 51:15Speaker 01

  you know, I don't think either one of us were just overly shaken up right then. But when we got back, we both agree, we talked about it. I said, for one, nobody's ever going to believe us about this. I mean, it's like, I mean, I personally don't know a whole lot of people that I can just say, oh, this is what we saw. And they're going to be like, oh yeah, totally agree. You know, that's what you saw. We just said, we know what we saw and we didn't know what we saw. So that's kind of a, that's kind of was his take on it was, we know what we saw, but can't put a finger on it.

• 51:47Wes Germer?

  And I've talked about on the show about me and my brother seeing the light and how it actually followed us, but it wasn't, um, it wasn't that close to our car. It was more or less kind of up in the tree line following us. But I'm telling you, if it would have been right on the bumper, I probably would have freaked out a lot more. In your gut, what do you think that light was?

• 52:10Speaker 01

  I mean, I, I'd say is something, it's gotta be tied to UFOs somewhere. I mean, that's just my personal take on this. Um, I think, I don't know what if this is like their, you know, we have security cameras, you know, we have all these drones and all this that do surveillance on our enemies and all that. What's to say that's not their version of surveillance? You know, like maybe that's some way that they, hey, we're going to send these little whatever it is down. Let's do some research on these guys, you know? I mean, I, I don't know. I really don't know. But that's, that's the only thing I can think of in my head that these could, and I don't want to think that because that's terrifies me. But I mean, what else could they be? You know?

• 52:54Wes Germer?

  Yeah, I used to think that too. I used to think, God, that, you know, some sort of drone makes the most sense. But it's just a weird light. I mean, there's, it's not really like a structure or like a craft. I think I lean more towards spirits, but I can't really prove that. That's just my opinion, of course.

• 53:13Speaker 01

  No, I know. And I actually, I'm not sure what your take is on this, but a few weeks ago, I actually watched, uh, David Poulade's American Sasquatch. He goes, you know, it touches on the orb thing, you know, the, the lights in the woods, uh, you know, in those same areas, Sasquatches and all that, you know, it's like, is there a correlation? You know? I mean, it kind of makes you wonder like, is there some kind of, because you're talking about the spiritual part of it, you know? What what we think Sasquatch could be, you know, if it's like the Native Americans talk about it being a spiritual being, you know?

• 53:51Speaker 01

  I mean, I'm really not sure. It's kind of, it's a very hard, very hard question to wrap your head around, you know, of what it really is.

• 54:00Wes Germer?

  What's kind of your interest with Sasquatch and what do you think that they are?

• 54:06Speaker 01

  So my interest with them is actually started, um, it was one of my first jobs right out of college. Uh, we were working on ships, you know, you're going for a long time. So you get to know everybody you're working with. And I had a guy that had a very credible encounter in North Carolina, uh, just outside of Beaufort, North Carolina. And they just all, I mean, the backstory, everything kind of lined up with it. And then he recommended me to start listening to this podcast. So I was like, you know, I've, like, I've always like, I've never not, not Bigfoot Sasquatch. Like, I grew up hunting, fishing, like, there's, there's woods. I can take you 20 minutes up the road where I am right now, but me and you can't walk there, you know, physically.

• 54:46Speaker 01

  Like, we would struggle to walk there and to say that there's not something out there that we haven't found yet, I think is a, you know, it's a little ignorant in my opinion, but, uh, so I've always kind of been around it. And then I've heard, like I said, I've talked to, him and then another guy had a credible story in Louisiana that I worked with. And then the last one that really got me into it was a guy that lived just outside Jacksonville that I was working with back in, uh, it was June of 25th, 25th, and he actually was seeing the lights on the property also. That's kind of what got me into it. And then when I first got into this, just like I think everybody else, I always thought Sasquatch was,

• 55:27Speaker 01

  this is a, an undiscovered, very intelligent primate that, uh, we just haven't caught up to. And I think, uh, a lot of people think that. And the more I dig into this, uh, I don't think that's, I think there's more to it, you know, I think, uh, I've heard the stories of the whistleblower that says, uh, they're aliens. I've heard some of those stories. Um, I personally think that after watching some of the documentaries that, it's almost like these things are interdimensional, you know, the, the unexplained where people find footprints. And all of a sudden they disappear in snow where there's plenty of more snow that those footprints would have.

• 56:08Speaker 01

  Stuck in. So my take on Sasquatch is is it is living and breathing when we see it. And I think there's it's got some kind of ability that we just as humans either we cannot see, we don't understand or both. Yeah. So that's a that's kind of my viewpoint on this, on what a Sasquatch is.

• 56:30Wes Germer?

  Yeah, there is a lot of weird things that happen when these creatures are around that don't happen when normal animals are around. And then what's the deal with these weird lights showing up? The whole thing is a weird mystery. And I know it was kind of a a brief encounter with the light, but I really appreciate you sharing it. I'd never heard of of a light encounter like that before. And I can't thank you enough for taking the time to come on. I really enjoyed chatting with you.

• 57:00Speaker 01

  Yes, sir. And I appreciate you having me, Wes. And like I said, I really do appreciate everything you do for, uh, the people like me, you know, who just, uh, really just need somebody that will actually listen and take it for what it is. So I really do appreciate it.

• 57:14Wes Germer?

  Thanks again, Jacob. And that's it for tonight, everyone. Remember, if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email. My email address is [email protected]. And if you get a chance, check out sasquatchchronicles.com. You can become a member and get additional shows. Until next time, everyone.

• 58:21Speaker 05

  The lights on And it power grew wider The lights on So I put my speed a little wiser The lights on To do something a quieter The lights on This is my home Close your eyes Memories of you dear Untie your mind Close at the sky I'll miss my ride Memories of you dear

• 59:20Speaker 05

  Put the lights on This is my home Close your eyes Memories of you dear Untie your mind Close at the sky I'll miss my ride Memories of you dear

• 1:00:25Speaker 05

  Say that you're still here in my mind And that's my relief in my mind 'Cause I found the key to my mind

• 1:00:36Speaker 05

  So I won't you die in my mind And I may