Pod Insights Dumb Blonde TBT: Jeffree Star - The Internet OG About this episode Throwback Thursday
Y'all might not be ready for this one. The iconic Jeffree Star drops in this week to talk his truth on everything from the state of social media, how he built an iconic brand from nothing, what really happened to the beauty influencer community, and why he fled from LA to a yak ranch in Wyoming. He talks about what's next in his world domination, from embracing the new generation of TikTok to opening a store that sells makeup and meat.
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0:00 Bunnie XO? Is this thing on?
0:01 Speaker 01 Bonnie, who used to be a former sex worker and now hosts the podcast Dunblom. Most little girls grow up wanting to be doctors and lawyers and shit. And I was like, I want to be super hot, make a lot of fucking money and be a rock star's wife. That was my goal as a child and here we are.
0:16 Bunnie XO? What's up, you sexy motherfuckers? Welcome to another podcast. Today I have the enigma, the social media enigma, the queen of queens.
0:28 Speaker 02 Hi.
0:29 Bunnie XO? Jeffrey Star, baby.
0:30 Speaker 02 Thank you for having me.
0:31 Bunnie XO? Dude, this has been a long time coming.
0:33 Speaker 02 It really has.
0:34 Bunnie XO? I'm so happy you're here.
0:35 Speaker 02 Thank you for having me.
0:36 Bunnie XO? Who the fuck would have known that Montana would bring us together?
0:39 Speaker 02 I know. So we're literally in Bozeman, Montana. We're backstage.
0:43 Bunnie XO? In a locker room?
0:44 Speaker 02 We are. We're in a locker room. The glory holes are behind me. And we are meeting for the first time today.
0:50 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
0:50 Speaker 02 We've been talking all year.
0:52 Bunnie XO? Yes.
0:52 Speaker 02 And life finally brought us together. So thank you for having me.
0:55 Bunnie XO? And it's crazy because we did have a mutual friend who just passed away. Daniel.
0:59 Speaker 02 Yep, rest in peace.
1:00 Bunnie XO? And he fucking loved you so much, dude. He told me he just-
1:04 Speaker 02 It's crazy that you met him and I like, and hung out with him for so long and I never met you.
1:08 Bunnie XO? So I never-
1:09 Speaker 02 That's crazy to me.
1:10 Bunnie XO? I never got to meet Daniel.
1:11 Speaker 02 What?
1:11 Bunnie XO? We were literally online friends for like 10 years.
1:14 Speaker 02 Oh my God, I thought you guys partied in Vegas back in the day as well.
1:17 Bunnie XO? Nope, nope, nope. Just what, we grew up around the same circle. He had the same friends I did. Like, we never got to actually meet.
1:23 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:23 Bunnie XO? But we literally talked all the time online. Like, it was crazy. I just loved that. I loved him, dude. He was just such a good soul.
1:30 Speaker 02 His spirit was one of a kind, honestly.
1:32 Bunnie XO? So I just feel like this was like Daniel's doing, possibly, like pushing us together.
1:35 Speaker 02 That's beautiful.
1:36 Bunnie XO? I have seen so many podcasts of you and I feel like-
1:42 Speaker 02 Did you notice how I was like silent for a long time and then I just, you know, it was like, you know what? It's time to talk.
1:46 Bunnie XO? What, what, what brought that on? Like-
1:48 Speaker 02 I think during 2020 and like during the pandemic, like I had such a crazy trajectory. And then the pandemic and so much online drama like exploded.
1:57 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
1:57 Speaker 02 So I moved to Wyoming. I went to therapy. I really worked on myself. And I was like, you know what? I want to share that journey, not just all the dramatic, chaotic, you know, shit and just makeup stuff, only I wanted to share how I healed.
2:12 Bunnie XO? I love that.
2:13 Speaker 02 And let people see like who I am now, you know? So I started doing podcasts-
2:16 Bunnie XO? The growth is amazing.
2:17 Speaker 02 And thank you. And a lot of males fixate on sex every time I'm on their podcast. We all know I'm never gonna fully kiss and tell.
2:26 Bunnie XO? I love that about you because I'm the same way. I was a hooker in Vegas.
2:29 Speaker 02 Period.
2:30 Bunnie XO? So I've never gonna kiss and tell the celebrities that fucking.
2:33 Speaker 02 What do you get when you put two escorts together?
2:37 Bunnie XO? Jeffrey and Bunny.
2:38 Speaker 02 So a lot of people don't know that I used to be the queen of Craigslist in LA.
2:42 Bunnie XO? Yes.
2:43 Speaker 02 Um, I used to make so much money during the MySpace era.
2:46 Bunnie XO? Oh, yeah, for sure.
2:46 Speaker 02 And then.
2:47 Bunnie XO? So when you say queen of Craigslist, where you mean like putting like ads on there and stuff or like to do?
2:52 Speaker 02 Yep. And I, and I recently found some old ads in my old account.
2:55 Bunnie XO? I love.
2:56 Speaker 02 Cause I am writing an autobiography finally.
2:57 Bunnie XO? That's brave because Craigslist and Backpage, man, you literally like.
3:01 Speaker 02 Oh, I missed Backpage.
3:04 Bunnie XO? You were literally risking your life to be on those. I did Eros. I was an Eros girl.
3:08 Speaker 02 Okay.
3:08 Bunnie XO? So I literally would post my ads and then, you know, screen them. And then sometimes I would work for the services in Vegas and stuff like that. But.
3:15 Speaker 02 And networking, we're in big cities. So it's like people think like, they think we're like at the, the street corner with no teeth with their thumb out.
3:22 Bunnie XO? There's levels to this shit.
3:23 Speaker 02 Levels.
3:24 Bunnie XO? I try to explain that to people all the time and nobody gets it.
3:27 Speaker 02 And then you, you start networking and meeting people. So I'm this broke kid. I moved out at 17. I was like, fuck you to my mother.
3:33 Bunnie XO? Let's rewind that really quick.
3:34 Speaker 02 Rewind it. Then we'll get to the head and the, and the bottoming.
3:38 Bunnie XO? So I want to rewind it back because you remind me so much of myself. We have been through a lot of shit. We mask it with dirty jokes and.
3:48 Speaker 02 And humor.
3:49 Bunnie XO? And humor, very dark humor.
3:51 Speaker 02 Yep.
3:52 Bunnie XO? And, you know, going through the stuff that you've gone through, I don't, I'm pretty sure, you know, half of my following probably does know your story, but I'm sure the other half doesn't. And I think that that really is an epic part of your journey because it's showing overcoming.
4:08 Speaker 02 Yes.
4:09 Bunnie XO? So.
4:09 Speaker 02 We're survivors.
4:10 Bunnie XO? Yeah, exactly. Yes, for sure. So growing up, you grew up in?
4:15 Speaker 02 Orange County, California. So I'm from Huntington Beach, 714.
4:18 Bunnie XO? Yay, I love H B.
4:20 Speaker 02 Growing up, like it was just, everyone was like surfing and skating and I just never really felt. Like I fit in. I was very punk rock. I had, I was the first person to have like pink hair dye at my school. And I just tried to break all the barriers without really knowing it. I was just like, well, I'm gonna be me and I'm gonna be myself. Um, and for some reason I got over the part where you care what other people think.
4:42 Bunnie XO? At an early age?
4:43 Speaker 02 At an early age, I think, cause my childhood was so chaotic. My parents were drunk my whole life. Um, and that, so people don't know this. Well, some people do, but I've never tried alcohol.
4:51 Bunnie XO? Right.
4:52 Speaker 02 And I think people sometimes have a hard time believing that. Cause you know, we all, we always used to post pictures with stuff.
4:57 Bunnie XO? Right.
4:57 Speaker 02 So there's photos of me with like a whiskey bottle. I'm like, yeah, it's all for show.
5:00 Bunnie XO? Sponsorships too.
5:01 Speaker 02 It's literally all for show. So, you know, people always dig things out of the ashes, but I've never tried alcohol. I never will. Uh, my dad died when I was five, so he drank himself to death. He killed himself and he was just really miserable and.
5:14 Bunnie XO? Did he commit suicide or did he die from cirrhosis?
5:17 Speaker 02 Uh, it's like a, it's like a tricky line.
5:21 Bunnie XO? Right.
5:21 Speaker 02 But suicide.
5:22 Bunnie XO? Right.
5:23 Speaker 02 Yeah. So he was like on the brink and was like, okay, I'm finally done. So the last time I remember seeing him, his skin was yellow, his eyebrows were falling out. He looked horrific and he grabbed me by the arm and I was five and a half and he was like, please don't ever drink. Like it's ruined our family. And that was my last memory of my dad.
5:39 Bunnie XO? That was his blessing to you?
5:41 Speaker 02 Yeah, it was wild, it was wild. Yeah.
5:42 Bunnie XO? Yeah, my mom did that to me when she.
5:44 Speaker 02 Spiraled and obviously got worse.
5:45 Bunnie XO? Right.
5:46 Speaker 02 So she would drink, recycle the beer cans to get more alcohol and just had a string of really annoying boyfriends. No one ever like abusive or crazy, but just always fighting. She never fell in love again. She was literally in love with my dad. And it didn't work out cause his, he couldn't stop drinking. That was what ruined the marriage.
6:04 Bunnie XO? What, when you're five years old and your father passes away, how are you feeling? Like, do you remember any of it?
6:11 Speaker 02 I do. I remember my mom telling me like a, a week or two after I saw him, she took me to the same park. And she goes, hey, like she tried to explain to me like my dad died and she always likes to say this. I literally like blinked, immediately put all the trauma away and was like, okay, um, could we get some more ice cream?
6:32 Bunnie XO? So you knew just growing up in chaos that it was better to just push it down instead of react?
6:37 Speaker 02 Yes.
6:38 Bunnie XO? It had to.
6:38 Speaker 02 Which was horrible for me later when all the like emotions and traumas and demons were coming out. And I'm in high school, my whole body's a cutting board.
6:46 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
6:46 Speaker 02 I'm like fully and like I see, you know, secret one, not like, I want attention, like, you know, it's.
6:52 Bunnie XO? I feel like back in the day, mental health was not talked about.
6:55 Speaker 02 No one talked about it.
6:55 Bunnie XO? Like how it is now.
6:56 Speaker 02 Yeah. And in cookie cutter, Orange County, no one was talking about feelings.
7:00 Bunnie XO? Right.
7:01 Speaker 02 It's like, get the fuck over it. You know, everyone's, all the husbands are cheating on the wives, all the, you know, everyone's getting beat. All these crazy things are happening and it's just swept under the rug and it's like the real housewives of Orange County.
7:11 Bunnie XO? Absolutely. Yeah, I know. It really is. The West Coast is a different beast. People don't understand that unless you've grown up on the West Coast. It's completely different way of thinking and way of living as like, you know, fucking Montana or fucking Wyoming.
7:23 Speaker 02 So I didn't untrain this behavior until probably like six years ago.
7:28 Bunnie XO? When you were cutting, was that your way of just kind of like relieving the pain and did your mom know?
7:34 Speaker 02 She didn't know for years and then I slipped up and got comfortable and she saw it for the first time.
7:41 Bunnie XO? Was it on your arms? Is that why?
7:43 Speaker 02 It was everywhere, but I would wear like heavy clothes all the time. It would be 90 degrees, but I was Gothic and my style was very punk rock. So no one ever questioned it.
7:52 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
7:53 Speaker 02 You know, it would be like, I would, I had photography class and I would go in the dark room and cut my legs and then come back out and no one ever knew, like crazy stuff like that.
8:00 Bunnie XO? You're just hurting so bad.
8:01 Speaker 02 Yeah. So I felt like it helped me feel a little bit because I felt so numb and like dead inside, but I never wanted to kill myself.
8:10 Bunnie XO? Right.
8:10 Speaker 02 I never had thoughts.
8:11 Bunnie XO? Well, because your dad passed away that way. So possibly that was like.
8:16 Speaker 02 So I never had the thoughts of like, I want to end my life, but I was doing it to just feel something.
8:21 Bunnie XO? Right. I understand that.
8:22 Speaker 02 And then it became like an addiction.
8:25 Bunnie XO? Well, you get addicted to the pain because it's the only time that you actually.
8:28 Speaker 02 It was really fucked up is I was also addicted to the watching it heal.
8:34 Bunnie XO? Wow.
8:34 Speaker 02 It was like a, yeah. Hi, nice to meet you.
8:38 Bunnie XO? Don't start joking.
8:40 Speaker 02 No, yeah, it was, it was really like, yeah, it was that serious.
8:44 Bunnie XO? That's so much trauma to go through at such a young age. When did you start cutting?
8:48 Speaker 02 I would say like ninth grade and then I stopped when I graduated high school. And I broke away, but my mom did catch me. So we're in this little apartment. And she always made me do chores, single mother, only child, and I'm a Scorpio. It's a lot there.
9:03 Bunnie XO? I think you might have a lot of Capricorn.
9:06 Bunnie XO? Cap and Sag.
9:07 Speaker 02 A lot of Sag.
9:07 Bunnie XO? I want to do your birth chart. Have you done your birth chart? What is it?
9:10 Speaker 02 Stunning. I'll show you later.
9:13 Bunnie XO? He's like, I'm not showing anybody online.
9:15 Speaker 02 It's stunning. Um, so she caught me when I was doing the dishes. She always made me do chores and clean the bathroom and have manners and la la la. And I was a straight A student. She said, you can look however you want, do whatever you want, dye your hair pink, red, black, do extensions. I shaved off my eyebrows in 10th grade. No one was doing that.
9:30 Bunnie XO? At all?
9:30 Speaker 02 It was like horror and shock.
9:33 Bunnie XO? Right.
9:34 Speaker 02 And.
9:35 Bunnie XO? Like a pioneer of sorts.
9:36 Speaker 02 It was crazy. And she caught me one day when I was doing the dishes and I wasn't wearing long sleeves and she came home from work early. And when you've been doing it for so long. So she caught me and she saw the side of the arm. I'll never forget it.
9:49 Bunnie XO? What did she say?
9:50 Speaker 02 I mean, you know, mo- most parents don't fully know how to articulate it because they immediately go to, he wants to die. And it's like, you know? And she is a fucking train wreck. So you are bitch.
10:00 Bunnie XO? So was my mom. Trust me, I get it.
10:02 Speaker 02 Yeah. So it was rough and we never gelled. So I'm seventeen and a half. I graduate high school early. I'm out. I'm going to LA. And by then I had been going to a lot of shows. I was seventeen with the fake ID, going to the key club, the whiskey on sunset.
10:20 Bunnie XO? I was at the Rio and fucking pinkies and all that shit.
10:23 Speaker 02 So much makeup. No one really knew how old I, like, they couldn't tell if I was sixteen or thirty, you know?
10:29 Bunnie XO? Let's dial it back real quick before you left home because didn't, wasn't one of your first sexual experiences at twelve?
10:35 Speaker 02 Yeah.
10:36 Bunnie XO? I mean, how do you even know to have sex at twelve?
10:39 Speaker 02 Oh my god. Um, I don't know. It just naturally happened. And I think boys are really curious, but men don't like to talk about this stuff.
10:46 Bunnie XO? Right.
10:47 Speaker 02 So when you're in like ninth, well, this is eighth grade for me.
10:50 Bunnie XO? Right.
10:50 Speaker 02 So let's dial it back to eighth grade.
10:52 Bunnie XO? Right.
10:52 Speaker 02 Me and this guy Jeff in the football team and a foreign exchange student.
10:57 Bunnie XO? Not another Jeff.
10:57 Speaker 02 Yeah. So the first guy I ever blew had the same name as me.
11:00 Bunnie XO? Wow.
11:01 Speaker 02 Life.
11:02 Bunnie XO? So you were already feeling that you were into boys.
11:05 Speaker 02 Yeah, so eighth grade was the first experience. Fifth grade was when I was like, oh, like, OK, girls are attractive, but I'm more attracted to men.
11:14 Bunnie XO? Gotcha.
11:15 Speaker 02 And yes, I've slept with both. I love everyone, but I prefer men.
11:18 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
11:19 Speaker 02 Um, but I love everyone.
11:20 Bunnie XO? I loved boys in makeup. Boy George was my first crush.
11:23 Speaker 02 Hate it. Love Boy George, but I am not attracted to men in makeup.
11:28 Bunnie XO? Really?
11:29 Speaker 02 I don't like femininity.
11:30 Bunnie XO? Wow.
11:30 Speaker 02 I like a fucking man.
11:32 Bunnie XO? I love that.
11:33 Speaker 02 So if someone looked like me, it's the biggest turn off.
11:36 Bunnie XO? Right, well, yeah. I wouldn't want to fuck somebody who looked like me either, so I get it.
11:41 Speaker 02 But like, I'm not into glam boys, I'm not into femininity, but I love a bad bitch. Like, you're fucking hot.
11:47 Bunnie XO? I love you.
11:47 Speaker 02 But I don't like a guy in makeup.
11:49 Bunnie XO? Right. But you know what? My dad was a musician and he had long black hair and he played in the band and he had, you know, so I've always been attracted to the emo boys, you know, the Chris Motionless and the.
12:01 Speaker 02 Yep. He was just in Wyoming.
12:03 Bunnie XO? Shit like that, so I know.
12:05 Speaker 02 I can't. We're talking about that later.
12:08 Bunnie XO? We can, but we'll have to bleep his name out.
12:10 Speaker 02 No eyeliner, like, nice body, tattoos, whatever.
12:15 Bunnie XO? Sports guys, right? Or no?
12:17 Speaker 02 Nowadays, but in the Warped Tour days, it was like country boys and like scene boys, the MySpace, you know.
12:24 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
12:24 Speaker 02 Oh, my gosh. So many flashbacks.
12:26 Bunnie XO? Dial in bag.
12:27 Speaker 02 We're in eighth grade, I'm ready to swallow.
12:29 Bunnie XO? Fifth.
12:32 Bunnie XO? OK, fifth grade, you were already attracted to boys and then eighth grade.
12:37 Speaker 02 And I already looked different, where in fifth grade was the first time I was called a gay lord and a faggot.
12:43 Bunnie XO? Oh.
12:44 Speaker 02 Oh, yeah.
12:45 Bunnie XO? Really?
12:46 Speaker 02 Oh, absolutely. It was, it was this era of nineties where like the guys wanted to be like gangster and wear baggy flannel and these huge Tommy Hilfiger.
12:56 Bunnie XO? All I dated was gangsters.
12:57 Speaker 02 And I was more like little button up, boy scout, like tight cut, military haircut, because my grandparents raised me while my mom was getting sober.
13:06 Bunnie XO? Right.
13:06 Speaker 02 So she got sober when I was in high school, finally.
13:08 Bunnie XO? Oh, good.
13:09 Speaker 02 Thank God, and she's been sober since.
13:10 Bunnie XO? Yay, mom.
13:11 Speaker 02 Congratulations to her, twenty-three years. Let's go.
13:13 Bunnie XO? Let's fucking go.
13:15 Speaker 02 But, yeah, it was.
13:17 Bunnie XO? So twelve years old, you and Jeff hook up and it turned into a threesome, right?
13:22 Speaker 02 Yeah, so my first like real experience with a guy was with two guys.
13:26 Bunnie XO? Okay, gotcha.
13:27 Speaker 02 And while I've been writing my book, I've been told by the guy that's writing with me.
13:32 Bunnie XO? Which by the way, I love Neil Strauss.
13:34 Speaker 02 He's a genius.
13:34 Bunnie XO? Don't fuck around, like, love him.
13:36 Speaker 02 So he definitely let me analyze myself very deeply with this. And he's like, everything you do without you knowing it is extreme. And I was like, huh, and that hit me hard in a good way. But it's like everything I do, like, oh, I bought some land. Now it's the biggest yak ranch in America and I'm in seven restaurants. I can't just like let things be.
13:54 Bunnie XO? Right, well, you came from nothing and I'm literally, I'm a money hoarder. Literally, I have so much shit around, like, it's crazy. Once you, when you come from nothing, you want everything.
14:05 Speaker 02 We both turned dirt into diamonds.
14:07 Bunnie XO? Literally, and you're never happy, like, it's, once you reach one goal, it's the next goal, it's the next goal, it's the next goal.
14:13 Speaker 02 Okay, good, you understand.
14:14 Bunnie XO? Yeah, no, totally. I have a lot of Capricorn in me though, too, so I'm like, I never give up. I'm literally just always going. Um, so moving on, after your first threesome, take me on that journey. You're seventeen, you've are leaving home, you're going.
14:27 Speaker 02 I literally got a U-Haul, and I always had older friends, of course. I hate, I hated immature little kids. Um, so someone.
14:35 Bunnie XO? I was the same way.
14:36 Speaker 02 That's it, so they rented me a U-Haul. We pulled up, I said, bye, mom, like, I'm, I'm, I'm out and I.
14:42 Bunnie XO? And she just let you go?
14:43 Speaker 02 Yeah.
14:44 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
14:44 Speaker 02 I mean, what, what was she gonna do, you know? But it was good, it was really good, but I had to grow up quick.
14:49 Bunnie XO? Right.
14:50 Speaker 02 So.
14:50 Bunnie XO? Especially on the streets of Hollywood.
14:53 Speaker 02 So my birthday is in November, so then I turn, school's over in, in June, July. So I'm doing like little freelance makeup jobs, barely making it by, and I'm sleeping on someone's couch. She works at MAC makeup. She was like, you're eighteen now, like, you need to work at MAC, your, your makeup's so fierce, like, hello. And she was way older than me, so she got me the in, and obviously I sold myself, my first job. So my first job ever was at MAC cosmetics. And now I'm their competitor.
15:21 Bunnie XO? Yeah, literally. You went in there, took all their tips and tricks.
15:25 Speaker 02 I'm a MAC alumni, I have, I have Ruby Woo lipstick tattooed on my arm, I'm a MAC alumni forever, like, and I, and I still wear their, their powder, I love it.
15:32 Bunnie XO? I could totally picture you being at MAC, too.
15:34 Speaker 02 Yeah, highest seller.
15:36 Bunnie XO? I bet.
15:36 Speaker 02 But then it already started, everyone already, you know, the jealousy, the craziness, the. Then I learned the industry was really catty. It wasn't about the artistry. It was all very competitive and LA was like very cutthroat. And back then, there wasn't a million makeup artists like there is now.
15:51 Bunnie XO? Right.
15:52 Speaker 02 There was no technology, no phone, no one could even process that. We barely just started having phones, right?
15:57 Bunnie XO? Right.
15:57 Speaker 02 So there's no-
15:58 Bunnie XO? I had beepers and shit.
15:59 Speaker 02 Yeah.
15:59 Bunnie XO? I'm looking at my, when I look down, I'm looking at my list of notes that I have, so.
16:04 Speaker 02 And what were we just saying?
16:06 Bunnie XO? Um, you were talking about Mac.
16:07 Speaker 02 Come on, hybrid and indica.
16:09 Bunnie XO? He's like squirrel. Um, you were talking about Mac.
16:11 Speaker 02 Baby.
16:12 Bunnie XO? And everybody's being a fucking hater.
16:14 Speaker 02 We were freelancing, we were going to different locations and I was always had the top sales. It was really fun. And as you meet people in the stores, customers, you start networking. So from day one, my online journey, and by the way, I was already online at this point.
16:28 Bunnie XO? Right.
16:29 Speaker 02 I was already on these websites that people don't even know exist, like hot or not dot com.
16:33 Bunnie XO? Dude, I loved hot or not.
16:34 Speaker 02 Live journal and all these things that people don't even know existed.
16:37 Bunnie XO? No, that was, that was our childhood.
16:39 Speaker 02 Yes.
16:39 Bunnie XO? Literally.
16:41 Speaker 02 So I would meet people.
16:41 Bunnie XO? Is anyone up dot com?
16:42 Speaker 02 Is anyone up? Oh, Jesus.
16:44 Bunnie XO? All those.
16:45 Speaker 02 Oh, my God, yes. And all of a sudden, I'm getting clients outside of the store.
16:50 Bunnie XO? Right.
16:51 Speaker 02 And I'm doing makeup for music videos, lo-fi, Z-list movies that no one's ever heard of. And then I meet this girl and she started, I start working for Hustler. I started doing makeup for porn.
17:02 Bunnie XO? Wow.
17:03 Speaker 02 At nineteen. So I would just started networking and just making as much money as I could. But for the lifestyle I knew I was meant for, it wasn't enough.
17:12 Bunnie XO? Right.
17:12 Speaker 02 So that's when someone introduced, of course, I did some girls makeup. She was about to go turn a trick, didn't know it. And she's like, oh, baby, the guys would love you.
17:22 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
17:23 Speaker 02 I'll never forget her saying that line. And I was like, what do you mean? And she's like, this and this. And I was like, I can't. Like, I didn't even fully understand. A lot of men have fantasies, la la la. So I'm ignorant. Bitch, she sold me out in a good way.
17:37 Bunnie XO? She turned you out.
17:37 Speaker 02 Yeah.
17:38 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
17:38 Speaker 02 She got her 10%.
17:40 Bunnie XO? We love that.
17:41 Speaker 02 Oh, my God. So I started the journey of hustling and doing sex work, which I haven't really talked about much.
17:48 Bunnie XO? I think it's important for people to know that. I'm so-
17:50 Speaker 02 And I'm never ashamed.
17:51 Bunnie XO? Ever. I feel like people think that we should be ashamed for what we had to do to survive. And I'm never gonna fucking apologize.
17:58 Speaker 02 Even though I'm at this stage in my life, I sometimes still wish I could do it.
18:04 Bunnie XO? It was so, it was a different time. Where like if you wanted to wake up and make X amount of dollars, you could.
18:12 Bunnie XO? That or even a sugar daddy. Have a sugar daddy who just fucking gave you.
18:15 Speaker 02 I even had ones online that I never met. So people were like, okay, you're on MySpace. How did you, people would send me high powered cameras. I didn't know that existed. Teach myself everything. So I was one of the first people to do a vlog. Me and Paris Hilton were the first ones to ever make money off of being a social media star. So I coined internet, um, an internet celebrity.
18:37 Bunnie XO? Absolutely. I remember the first time I saw you was MySpace. It was you, forbidden.
18:42 Speaker 02 Oh, my God. Rest in peace.
18:44 Bunnie XO? I know. How sad.
18:45 Speaker 02 And Tila Tequila.
18:46 Bunnie XO? Tila Tequila, where the fuck is she?
18:47 Speaker 02 And I'm the last one standing bitch.
18:49 Bunnie XO? And normal somewhat.
18:50 Speaker 02 That's it. Oh, my.
18:52 Bunnie XO? You haven't lost your mind.
18:53 Speaker 02 Miss Tequila's crazy.
18:54 Bunnie XO? I know.
18:55 Speaker 02 Forbidden could never escape not being a star anymore. And God bless her, um, addiction, alcohol. That's literally like in Orange County's culture. I hate it.
19:04 Bunnie XO? No, it's so sad because she was such a beautiful woman, but Tila, I don't know what the fuck happened. I think she had an aneurysm and just never got right after that, right?
19:12 Speaker 02 I have no idea.
19:14 Bunnie XO? They say it's the Illuminati, but I'm not sure.
19:17 Speaker 02 No, we're not claiming her. No, no, no, no, no. We don't know who that is. She wanted to be a part of the club. No, thank you.
19:24 Bunnie XO? I don't think she made enough money, right? Don't you have to have like a certain amount of money to get into the Illuminati?
19:29 Speaker 02 I'm not sure.
19:31 Bunnie XO? Everybody thinks my husband and I are in the Illuminati and I'm like, I'm glad you guys think we have that much money. Like, it's not what it is.
19:38 Speaker 02 Yeah, it's interesting. It, it, yeah. Life's very interesting.
19:41 Bunnie XO? Yeah, definitely.
19:42 Speaker 02 So I moved to Wyoming and I escaped a lot of things.
19:46 Bunnie XO? Right. So let's dial back, though. You had started, you had started doing sex work. And how long did you do sex work for? Did you use that as like a means to an end while you were doing social media?
19:57 Speaker 02 Yeah, exactly. Okay. And then like the Warped Tour days really took off and I started doing music.
20:04 Bunnie XO? Yes, I loved Beauty Killer.
20:05 Speaker 02 So people forget, thank you, oh my god, that I was obviously a working makeup artist.
20:09 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
20:10 Speaker 02 And then MySpace and social media really exploded for me.
20:13 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
20:13 Speaker 02 And I started to all of a sudden have like merchandise and I'm number one in Hot Topic. So I stopped obviously doing makeup on others.
20:19 Bunnie XO? Right.
20:19 Speaker 02 People would hire me back in the day like, oh, will you do my wedding? Or like, come to my daughter's birthday party. Like, those days were very fun.
20:26 Bunnie XO? Right.
20:26 Speaker 02 But then I started doing music.
20:28 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
20:28 Speaker 02 Yeah. And I did music as a joke. I rapped on this Hollywood Undead song a very long time ago.
20:34 Bunnie XO? My husband just did a feature with them.
20:35 Speaker 02 Oh, that's awesome.
20:36 Bunnie XO? They're still around and still kicking ass.
20:38 Speaker 02 That's it.
20:38 Bunnie XO? Like, love them.
20:39 Speaker 02 And the first album, I was supposed to be on it, and then there was drama and they took me off, but the song was already online for free called Turn Off The Lights.
20:48 Bunnie XO? Right.
20:48 Speaker 02 And it was massive. I even rerecorded it. Interscope Records and whoever at the time took me off, but the song was already massive online.
20:57 Bunnie XO? Wow.
20:57 Speaker 02 And it was just very interesting.
20:59 Bunnie XO? Isn't it crazy how record labels work? Like, they're just, they're shady. Yeah, they're shady as fuck.
21:04 Speaker 02 Not all, but most.
21:05 Bunnie XO? Not all, but pretty much most of them are. They're just so shady. Um, I feel like Hollywood Undead always had some sort of drama going on. They were, they were fighting each other.
21:13 Speaker 02 I know. It was awful.
21:14 Bunnie XO? Sorry, guys, I don't mean to talk shit, but I'm just saying.
21:16 Speaker 02 No, it was just crazy.
21:17 Bunnie XO? Back in the day, like they were beefing with each other.
21:19 Speaker 02 Worked it out, yeah.
21:20 Bunnie XO? Yeah, for sure. But let's talk about your music career. I mean, you had like Nicki Minaj as a feature and like, dude, so cool.
21:27 Speaker 02 A lot of, I work with a lot of really cool people.
21:29 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
21:30 Speaker 02 I did music, I always say like as a joke, but I actually really enjoyed it. When I did the first rap verse, I freestyled it, wrote it down in 10 minutes. It was very, very crass. And I was like, I want it.
21:41 Bunnie XO? Freestyling right now before the cameras started rolling.
21:43 Speaker 02 I even put forbidden in my first verse.
21:44 Bunnie XO? Oh.
21:45 Speaker 02 The first, yeah, ever. It was, yeah, it was, that's so funny. The little last line is, "I watched me eat forbidden's that pussy."
21:51 Bunnie XO? No.
21:52 Speaker 02 That's so fucked, but so good. And she loved it, by the way.
21:55 Bunnie XO? I bet, but it's just like.
21:56 Speaker 02 And it was, it was crazy. It was vicious. And I was like, I want to be like the obscene, like white little Kim.
22:02 Bunnie XO? Right.
22:02 Speaker 02 And that was my shtick. And I penned some wild ass shit.
22:06 Bunnie XO? It was actually really good. I loved, what is the song? Um, Plastic Slumber Party?
22:11 Speaker 02 Plastic Surgery Slumber Party.
22:13 Bunnie XO? Love. That was one of my favorite songs.
22:14 Speaker 02 And that was very like lofi fun electro MySpace music.
22:18 Bunnie XO? Like Depeche Mode needs like techno. Like it was really cool. Yeah, you had to have been there. It's the best way to describe it.
22:24 Speaker 02 And for some reason, because of MySpace and I was already popular for being me and my char-, you know, who, this character.
22:31 Bunnie XO? Right.
22:32 Speaker 02 It just got big.
22:35 Bunnie XO? Why don't you pursue music anymore though? Cause you're so good at it. And it seems like it's a passion of yours.
22:40 Speaker 02 Been asked this for every time I do an interview.
22:43 Bunnie XO? Really?
22:44 Speaker 02 And we have definitely been dabbling for fun.
22:47 Bunnie XO? Hmm. Dude, my husband will help you.
22:49 Speaker 02 It's really, I love it.
22:51 Bunnie XO? But.
22:51 Speaker 02 Listen, I, you never know, there may be a little comeback.
22:55 Bunnie XO? Yeah, do it. Please. I think TikTok needs a Jeffrey Star Trek. It will go fucking.
23:02 Speaker 02 I, I even have a new song on my phone.
23:05 Bunnie XO? Uh, can we get a little snippet?
23:06 Speaker 02 Later on the bus.
23:07 Bunnie XO? Okay.
23:09 Speaker 02 So I've been doing it for fun.
23:11 Bunnie XO? I, but you're so good at it. Like, I think that's something that you need to do. And it's also a creative outlet for you.
23:17 Speaker 02 It's really cool.
23:18 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
23:18 Speaker 02 And now that I'm living this Wyoming life and I'm older and my voice is less faggoty. I can say that. Number one faggot right here. Um, my voice is deeper.
23:29 Bunnie XO? Right.
23:30 Speaker 02 And I really like my voice. And someone came over the other day and we did, I'm not even kidding, you're gonna die. Beauty Killer Acoustic.
23:36 Bunnie XO? Wow, no.
23:37 Speaker 02 Oh, yeah. And they're like, would you ever perform this before?
23:40 Bunnie XO? Fucking scene kid that grew up with us needs that, dude. You have no idea.
23:44 Speaker 02 So when I opened up my retail store, we're jumping 30 years ahead.
23:47 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
23:47 Speaker 02 I just.
23:48 Bunnie XO? We're just all over the place.
23:49 Speaker 02 Opening, I had Yellow Wolf perform.
23:50 Bunnie XO? Yeah, we love yellow.
23:51 Speaker 02 We broke the record of biggest event ever in Casper for downtown. It beat even the eclipse from 2018.
23:57 Bunnie XO? Yay.
23:57 Speaker 02 And we've never been on the moon. But anyway, um, that's for, that's for the next 10 minutes. It was epic.
24:03 Bunnie XO? I love that.
24:04 Speaker 02 So I was like, you know what, everyone's you should go perform a song. And I was like, oh, hell no. But then it actually kind of inspired me.
24:09 Bunnie XO? Good. I'm proud of you.
24:11 Speaker 02 So you never know what could happen.
24:12 Bunnie XO? You need to do that. Do stuff that makes you set your soul on fire.
24:15 Speaker 02 Yes.
24:15 Bunnie XO? You know, I feel like you've done so much shit now for not just you, but for everybody else and to maybe prove points. Because from all the trauma that we have come from.
24:23 Speaker 02 Yes.
24:24 Bunnie XO? We're always proving a point.
24:25 Speaker 02 We are.
24:26 Bunnie XO? And I feel like.
24:27 Speaker 02 Thank God she knows that.
24:28 Bunnie XO? I feel like music for you is therapeutic.
24:31 Speaker 02 It is actually.
24:32 Bunnie XO? And I also feel like it's something that you enjoy.
24:34 Speaker 02 It is.
24:34 Bunnie XO? As much as like your yaks and shit.
24:35 Speaker 02 Because the makeup brand took off so big.
24:37 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
24:37 Speaker 02 I was like, and I really became engrossed.
24:40 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
24:40 Speaker 02 I went from living in a one bedroom apartment with a thousand dollars to like, I want to be a CEO of my own company. And I had to literally teach myself everything.
24:48 Bunnie XO? But I mean, you did it and look what happened. So you're in, let me, let me, so when we left off on your story.
24:54 Speaker 02 Music, yeah.
24:55 Bunnie XO? You had just started music. When you decided to stop music and then when did you start getting into makeup?
25:02 Speaker 02 Oh, that's a good question.
25:03 Bunnie XO? Coincided with each other?
25:04 Speaker 02 It was also, the music was literally like a 10 year journey.
25:08 Bunnie XO? Right.
25:09 Speaker 02 And I was always independent until the end.
25:11 Bunnie XO? You were touring and everything, right?
25:13 Speaker 02 Oh, yeah.
25:13 Bunnie XO? You're hopping on the tour bus tonight with us.
25:15 Speaker 02 We had tour buses. I was performing and there was no like real label behind me. I had an independent deal through Warner, which means I had no support.
25:22 Bunnie XO? It's like a distribution deal.
25:24 Speaker 02 It was literally a distribution deal. That was it. And it was sick. And we had a, you know, we had a cute little number one dance album and la la la. But I never got the success that I wanted.
25:31 Bunnie XO? Right.
25:32 Speaker 02 I wanted to be like number one. And then there was other people in the industry coming up at the same time. And they chose Evil Deals, Kesha, Lady Gaga, and they even stole from my.
25:47 Bunnie XO? Aesthetic.
25:48 Speaker 02 Oh, baby. And I'm not blaming them. I'm blaming their stylists and their team. They would go out and they would steal.
25:53 Bunnie XO? Gaga for sure.
25:54 Speaker 02 Girl.
25:55 Bunnie XO? Yeah, like that's your, that's your whole shit.
25:57 Speaker 02 It was crazy back in the day.
25:58 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
25:59 Speaker 02 I would go and I, and I saw their first show once.
26:02 Bunnie XO? People weren't doing cease and desist back then, right?
26:04 Speaker 02 Pink on the, on the screen right before she goes on stage.
26:07 Bunnie XO? Like your cereal shot, right?
26:08 Speaker 02 Girl, the cover of Plastic Surgery Sumber Party, I'm puking pink.
26:12 Bunnie XO? Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. You have your finger in your mouth.
26:14 Speaker 02 This woman's show. She's throwing up pink on the Jumbotron for her first big tour.
26:20 Bunnie XO? And there's nothing you can do.
26:21 Speaker 02 Devastated crying. Fifteen years later, I'm reviewing her concealer. We're cool. Lady Gaga, I love you, but it was her team. And later down the road, when I became uh, signed to similar folks, they all had stories and it was really dark and it's none of it was her fault. When you're that big, you have such a team behind you and you're just going with the fucking flow.
26:42 Bunnie XO? And no say so, like literally, yeah, right. We never know.
26:47 Speaker 02 But a lot of them chose horrible deals. Um, you know, people call it selling their soul. I've always kept my soul.
26:53 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
26:54 Speaker 02 And I've been offered a lot.
26:55 Bunnie XO? I'm looking you in your eyes. You seem to have a soul still. Yeah.
26:58 Speaker 02 It all cracks.
27:00 Bunnie XO? He turns into a reptilian right now.
27:02 Speaker 02 They wanted me to go full reptile. I didn't want to.
27:05 Bunnie XO? Really?
27:06 Speaker 02 Yeah.
27:06 Bunnie XO? How does that even work? How does somebody come to you and say, hey, I want you to be a reptilian?
27:10 Speaker 02 They see the potential that you can do to shift the culture.
27:13 Bunnie XO? Right.
27:14 Speaker 02 And I chose to shift it myself.
27:16 Bunnie XO? So people actually will come to you and say, hey, I want you to be a reptilian. What does that entail?
27:20 Speaker 02 It's more like, will you, it's basically like selling your soul. It's such a tricky, such a tricky thing to say.
27:26 Bunnie XO? Like Ursula and the Little Mermaid, like sign on the dotted line and pretty much.
27:29 Speaker 02 You have to give more than that.
27:30 Bunnie XO? Really?
27:31 Speaker 02 Yeah.
27:31 Bunnie XO? Like a firstborn or like your left nut or something?
27:36 Speaker 02 Listen, if you want that tour bus to not have the brakes go out tonight, no, I'm just kidding. No one can hear us. No one, no one knows we're talking about this.
27:42 Bunnie XO? No, we're good.
27:43 Speaker 02 It's a tricky slope because the industry is really dark.
27:46 Bunnie XO? Right.
27:46 Speaker 02 And there's a lot of people that will do.
27:47 Bunnie XO? There's such a dark side and there's such also a light side. It just depends on which.
27:51 Speaker 02 There is. But thankfully, because of social media and people having the guts, a lot of things are now infiltrated. Harvey Weinstein, Jeffrey Epstein, all these things are coming out.
28:00 Bunnie XO? Right.
28:01 Speaker 02 And it's like, thank God.
28:02 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
28:03 Speaker 02 So Hollywood is so scared.
28:04 Bunnie XO? Yeah. Oh, I bet. They're shook.
28:05 Speaker 02 There's no new artists. They're all pushing the stupid satanic demon shit. It's all so dumb.
28:09 Bunnie XO? Fucking, what's her name? Doja Cat right now? It's getting weird.
28:12 Speaker 02 It's just getting boring.
28:14 Bunnie XO? It's getting uncomfortable to the point of.
28:16 Speaker 02 Right is what it is.
28:17 Bunnie XO? Yeah. It's just getting uncomfortable to the point of just like, who are, what are you trying to prove? We get it. You know, like you're.
28:23 Speaker 02 It's to make them feed into it like they really are. I know. It's, it's so boring. I listened to the new song for the first time on the plane right here and I'm just like. This is it, huh?
28:34 Bunnie XO? Yeah, you're like, that's it.
28:35 Speaker 02 Second verse is kinda cute, but it's like, I just bought a limousine and I'm just like, my IQ is dropping right now.
28:41 Bunnie XO? Oh, yeah.
28:42 Speaker 02 It's not great.
28:43 Bunnie XO? She's losing her razzle dazzle.
28:45 Speaker 02 I even like Pink the Town, right? I think it's cute. It has a great beat. Obviously, these producers know what they're doing. They create a beat that you're gonna be hooked on and you can sing it in your head.
28:53 Bunnie XO? A loop, yeah.
28:53 Speaker 02 It's all a game, you know what I mean? So I never played the game with these top producers. I never, I saw how dark the industry was and it was like, could go here or this way. So I fired everyone. I said goodbye to Akon. I said goodbye to Convict Music.
29:08 Bunnie XO? Which you were assigned to Akon whenever you were doing your music career.
29:11 Speaker 02 So my last few songs, it has the iconic clink Convict. Do you know how cool that was? That very first time I got to put a track out with his fucking intro? It was like, I made it. It was insane.
29:22 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
29:22 Speaker 02 Prom Night, the crazy single.
29:24 Bunnie XO? Yeah, yep.
29:24 Speaker 02 Where our little kid's shooting up everyone at the end.
29:26 Bunnie XO? Yep.
29:27 Speaker 02 Such a forward thinker.
29:28 Bunnie XO? You really are, though. You have always been, no, for sure, for sure. You have always been ahead of your time, though.
29:35 Speaker 02 Baby Columbine had just happened. I'm like, we're gonna tap into this, cuz I also was getting death threats every day. It was different times. I would walk out the streets looking like this, faggot. I was called the craziest names. Nowadays, people don't talk like that.
29:48 Bunnie XO? Right, well, you get fucking cancelled.
29:50 Speaker 02 That's it.
29:50 Bunnie XO? I'm so tired of online fucking trolls and shit.
29:53 Speaker 02 But back in the day, it was just so different.
29:54 Bunnie XO? Twenty fourteen, you're already doing MySpace.
29:58 Speaker 02 Twenty fourteen is when I started the brand.
30:00 Bunnie XO? Right, so I was gonna say, MySpace was after music or?
30:04 Speaker 02 Before.
30:04 Bunnie XO? Before?
30:05 Speaker 02 And during.
30:05 Bunnie XO? Okay, gotcha.
30:06 Speaker 02 And then remember, MySpace
30:09 Bunnie XO? Tanked.
30:10 Speaker 02 Finally started having it to run. Facebook's here, Instagram's here, all these new things are happening. The population's changing, the last generation's now, you know, just, everything's evolving.
30:21 Bunnie XO? Mm-hmm.
30:22 Speaker 02 So it was a very hard time for me. I let go of the music world.
30:27 Bunnie XO? Right.
30:27 Speaker 02 I knew I was never gonna be number one single and, and performing in front of twenty thousand in my head, not knowing what was gonna come later.
30:35 Bunnie XO? Right.
30:36 Speaker 02 And I gave it all up. And that was like the only moment where I almost felt like giving up. Not like full suicide, but it was like, I, I, I was like very hopeless.
30:46 Bunnie XO? Right.
30:46 Speaker 02 And I was sitting in this apartment that I did the documentary on, right? Me and Shane Dawson, we even went back to the old apartment. It was so fucked.
30:53 Bunnie XO? Right.
30:53 Speaker 02 And
30:56 Speaker 02 It was it was just a moment of like, we're going this way or this way. So then I just started using the internet, which is free. You don't need to go to college. And I taught myself how to make a product, how to build a brand, and I just taught myself everything from the ground up. And there was a makeup, I mean, I'm in LA. There's makeup labs everywhere. People want to work with me. But it was at a really weird stage. So as I quit, I start, I went back to the Warped Tour crowd. I started selling merchandise and doing meet and greets with no music anymore.
31:24 Bunnie XO? Right.
31:25 Speaker 02 Here's a sick merch line. Come meet me. Cause I was broke.
31:29 Bunnie XO? The tenacity, though.
31:30 Speaker 02 I was fucking broke.
31:31 Bunnie XO? Most people don't have the tenacity that you do to do that, to to go and teach themselves things and to just keep fucking hustling. That's like something that you can't fucking teach people. You should be proud of yourself for that.
31:43 Speaker 02 Survivor mentality, it was like, it was do or die.
31:46 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
31:47 Speaker 02 So I'm on Warped Tour 2013, testing out my first ever lipstick formulas in the heat. It was awesome.
31:55 Bunnie XO? Oh.
31:56 Speaker 02 And I'm concocting my plan and and thinking about what I'm gonna do. And I'm like, okay, I want to put out three liquid lipsticks. There's only like three brands on the market at the time.
32:04 Bunnie XO? Kylie wasn't around then.
32:05 Speaker 02 Nope. Her lips were still normal.
32:07 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
32:08 Speaker 02 And mine weren't.
32:10 Bunnie XO? Oh, we had, we got into plastic surgery at a young age because that's where, that's how we grew up. That's how the West Coast is.
32:16 Speaker 02 Exactly.
32:17 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
32:18 Speaker 02 So I'm on this tour bus. We're doing meet and greets every day in the hot sun. Everyone else, you know, they do their thirty minute set, their little ten minute meet and greet. And they all go try to fuck and get wasted. I'm under that hot tent, seven hours, working that motherfucker. Making, making all the money.
32:35 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
32:35 Speaker 02 Never partying. And once the seven hours is over, then I go chill, redo my makeup, then we swallow.
32:43 Bunnie XO? Line them up.
32:44 Speaker 02 Line them up.
32:44 Bunnie XO? Line them up, baby.
32:45 Speaker 02 But, you know, it was just, it was such a crazy time for me. So I felt very hopeless. But then I'm ready to start the brand and launch this shit.
32:54 Bunnie XO? Right.
32:54 Speaker 02 I have no investor.
32:58 Speaker 02 Akon was gonna own part of my brand. Shout out to Akon, amazing musician, right?
33:03 Bunnie XO? Is he a good human too?
33:04 Speaker 02 He is, but he was going through so much turmoil in his life with his record label playing games and all these things. He could not be the best manager for me.
33:11 Bunnie XO? So, okay, circling back, we, you're, it's on Warped Tour, you're doing, you're working your ass off and you're staying sober this whole time?
33:17 Speaker 02 Yeah.
33:18 Bunnie XO? Yeah, so you've never had a problem with drugs or anything?
33:20 Speaker 02 No.
33:21 Bunnie XO? Wow.
33:22 Speaker 02 So I didn't smoke. So here's a great, I didn't try weed till I was 23.
33:26 Bunnie XO? Okay.
33:27 Speaker 02 We were on tour and I'm with Daniel and the very first time was in Salt Lake City at this venue and their, their house, the venue owners, their house was above the venue.
33:36 Bunnie XO? Weird.
33:37 Speaker 02 And it was very cool. Shout out to Jackie, I still remember her and they had the volcano bag.
33:41 Bunnie XO? Oh my God, a gravity bong type thing?
33:43 Speaker 02 No, no, no, like the volcano, like the one that blows. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not the bong, but like the bag.
33:47 Bunnie XO? Okay, gotcha.
33:48 Speaker 02 And it's like pure vapor, so it's very strong.
33:51 Bunnie XO? For your first time?
33:52 Speaker 02 Yes.
33:53 Bunnie XO? Extreme.
33:53 Speaker 02 And obviously people always ask like, why did you want to do it then? It was like in the moment, I'm feeling that, not that rock star life, but like I had made it, I'm on stage, there's a few thousand people there every night. It was very wild times.
34:06 Bunnie XO? Right.
34:06 Speaker 02 And I'm with Daniel, I felt very safe. Um, and I was like, you know what? Let me just try it for the first time. Like everyone else was smoking and they're acting normal. I didn't, I didn't like the wasted, gross, aggressive emotions, all this. I saw the array of people really happy, really violent, crying, trauma coming out and I'm like, fuck all this.
34:24 Bunnie XO? When you're sober around drunk people, I just talked about this on a podcast yesterday.
34:27 Speaker 02 People don't get it, it's hard, it's awful.
34:28 Bunnie XO? I just, I tell everybody I'm judging you because there's nothing attractive about a woman spilling all over the place, a guy in your face just breathing on you. Like I hate it. It's so gross.
34:37 Speaker 02 People don't realize that until they're sober.
34:39 Bunnie XO? Right.
34:40 Speaker 02 So it was, it was great times though. It was amazing.
34:44 Bunnie XO? Right.
34:45 Speaker 02 So we're at this weird trajectory of like, how am I gonna get this brand launched? And then once the Akon-
34:49 Bunnie XO? The gravity bag though.
34:50 Speaker 02 Yeah. Oh, the gravity bag. See, I'm already on the gravity bag today. So we try weed for the first time. So I take a hit. I'll never forget this. And the bag is like big and you take a hit. And I'm like, I literally felt nothing. And a lot of people go, well, sometimes the cannabinoids don't work on your first time. Yeah, whatever. So I didn't know the vapor takes like, hmm, maybe five to 10 minutes to like kind of kick in.
35:14 Bunnie XO? Hit you, yeah.
35:14 Speaker 02 So Mr. Extreme over here, I take like five more hits.
35:20 Speaker 02 And I'm like, nothing's happening. This is so like, wow, I can't believe I took this long to try weed and nothing's happening. It hit me like a train.
35:29 Bunnie XO? Oh, no.
35:29 Speaker 02 In the best way.
35:30 Bunnie XO? Oh, good.
35:31 Speaker 02 No bad first trip.
35:32 Bunnie XO? Good.
35:34 Speaker 02 I can't stop laughing.
35:35 Bunnie XO? Oh.
35:35 Speaker 02 I'm already a silly bitch.
35:37 Bunnie XO? Yeah, yeah.
35:38 Speaker 02 Me and Daniel are on, it's this cheetah print rug.
35:41 Bunnie XO? Oh.
35:42 Speaker 02 I'm laughing hysterically in my fucking underwear. The show's done. I'm all sweaty. You know what I mean? We're just up there chilling. Everyone's getting a drink, la la la. I cannot stop laughing. The munchies hit.
35:52 Bunnie XO? Oh.
35:53 Speaker 02 And we're like, okay, we're, you know, we start saying goodbye. I'm high for hours. We get into the van to go to the, the hotel, the little La Quinta, the little La Quinta. We're in the van going to the hotel and I feel like we're on a roller coaster and we're going thirty five miles an hour.
36:05 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
36:05 Speaker 02 I'm laughing hyster- we get to the hotel. I clean out the vending machine.
36:09 Bunnie XO? Oh.
36:10 Speaker 02 I have no idea, but I'm so high. My brain blacks out.
36:15 Bunnie XO? Oh, no.
36:17 Speaker 02 I wake up. There's chili Frito bags, Funyuns, Snicker bars, like, I cleaned out that bitch. And I had an eating fest with Daniel. We ordered pizza. I don't remember ordering and I, and I had the best sleep of my life. That's what I remember.
36:32 Bunnie XO? What a fucking great memory of you two.
36:34 Speaker 02 It was beautiful.
36:34 Bunnie XO? Oh.
36:35 Speaker 02 And I felt so safe with Daniel, so.
36:36 Bunnie XO? I love that.
36:38 Speaker 02 I start my journey of liking weed.
36:40 Bunnie XO? Hmm.
36:41 Speaker 02 And I didn't fully really get into it until I started my brand and I felt comfortable. And now I, you know, I, I've said I've been high for ten years, but marijuana has been a really big. I don't know. It's so hard to like, claim something as doing something.
36:56 Bunnie XO? Right.
36:57 Speaker 02 But it definitely has helped my creativity flourish.
37:00 Bunnie XO? Right. Do you battle with mental illness still or anything?
37:03 Speaker 02 Honestly, no, not really.
37:04 Bunnie XO? Hmm.
37:05 Speaker 02 Like we all.
37:06 Bunnie XO? No cutting or anything like that anymore? I was gonna say, maybe it like eases that.
37:09 Speaker 02 Yeah, it does take away full anxiety. I could, I don't ever really feel anxious, but I do smoke weed every day. Um, where it's legal.
37:17 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
37:17 Speaker 02 And let's say my team's like, yo, okay, I created a concept, but you need to name these thirty five eyeshadows, like now.
37:24 Bunnie XO? Right.
37:25 Speaker 02 Puff.
37:27 Speaker 02 It starts coming out. I need like if I that's why music. Oh, my God. When I did that first album. I had never really smoked.
37:35 Bunnie XO? Right.
37:35 Speaker 02 Beauty Killer and all the EPs.
37:36 Bunnie XO? But it was a way for you to channel.
37:38 Speaker 02 Yes.
37:38 Bunnie XO? Your energy.
37:39 Speaker 02 Yes.
37:39 Bunnie XO? And just throw yourself into something that you really enjoy.
37:42 Speaker 02 Yeah.
37:42 Bunnie XO? I love that.
37:43 Speaker 02 It's really cool.
37:44 Bunnie XO? So let's talk about something else that you enjoy. Makeup. Do you still enjoy makeup?
37:47 Speaker 02 I really do.
37:48 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
37:48 Speaker 02 Yeah.
37:49 Bunnie XO? And skincare now, too.
37:50 Speaker 02 Obsessed.
37:51 Bunnie XO? Talk to me about it.
37:52 Speaker 02 Yeah, I I've always loved skincare. I used to tell people as as young as fifteen, don't move your face.
37:59 Bunnie XO? Right. Yeah.
38:00 Speaker 02 Which was always my thing.
38:01 Bunnie XO? That's why I'm frozen.
38:02 Speaker 02 Now, as I get older, I don't care. I dissolved all my filler and I'm just kind of living a more free life. But I'm still me. I'm still Jeffrey fucking Star.
38:09 Bunnie XO? Do you do botox or anything?
38:10 Speaker 02 I have it in two years.
38:11 Bunnie XO? Wow, it looks amazing, though. I have to have it. I can't. When I start getting the wrinkles in the forehead, I freak out.
38:17 Speaker 02 I yeah, I do have more wrinkles. I'm not embracing them. Maybe they'll go away this this winter.
38:22 Bunnie XO? You look great, though.
38:23 Speaker 02 Thank you. But I'm just doing a little more like my lips were too crazy, so I dissolved a lot. And you know, when things start to migrate and all this.
38:28 Bunnie XO? I look like fucking Marge Simpson.
38:30 Speaker 02 So I had to.
38:31 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
38:31 Speaker 02 I had to tone it down for me, like below my nose was getting weird.
38:35 Bunnie XO? No, your face is perfect. You look beautiful.
38:37 Speaker 02 So I had to tone it down a notch for me.
38:38 Bunnie XO? Yeah, but we always do things for us, not for anybody else.
38:42 Speaker 02 But I always go extreme.
38:43 Bunnie XO? Yeah, for sure. So you started the makeup brand in twenty fourteen.
38:47 Speaker 02 Twenty fourteen, I launched three liquid lips on Black Friday.
38:51 Bunnie XO? And you were looking for an investor. Akon was gonna invest, but he couldn't.
38:55 Speaker 02 He was out. Next, let's hit up my best friend of twelve years, Kat Bundy. She's down. She shows me a makeup lab and I start doing my formula. She literally gives me a sample with a name of the lab. I call it Do All The Work. When she tried to destroy my career online, which flopped and backfired, she said she did everything. It was the biggest insult I think I've ever felt in my entire life. Because I did everything.
39:19 Bunnie XO? Yeah, it's always hurtful when a friendship breaks up. It's like worse than a divorce.
39:24 Speaker 02 And publicly, for the very first time, because I had not really done online drama, then after that, as bigger as as things got, oh, it's a bloodbath.
39:31 Bunnie XO? I feel like people just come for you just to be.
39:34 Speaker 02 Yes. They used to all the time just to get attention. So but it was my first big taste of the internet flipping.
39:41 Bunnie XO? Right.
39:41 Speaker 02 Without knowing any facts.
39:42 Bunnie XO? Oh, they don't care.
39:43 Speaker 02 And then days later, if I recall, they all flipped back and realized it was all full shit.
39:48 Bunnie XO? Yeah, they don't care.
39:49 Speaker 02 But it was so hurtful for someone to say, I created his brand. It was like, but it was believable. That was a problem. And now knowing.
39:55 Bunnie XO? Cause she was a little bit bigger than you back then. Right. Cause she had the LA or whatever.
39:59 Speaker 02 Having more money than me and she liked being the friend that had more. So when I surpassed her, she flipped on me. Twelve year friendship. She's tattooed my whole body. Fifty portraits.
40:10 Bunnie XO? Would you guys ever be friends again?
40:12 Speaker 02 No.
40:13 Bunnie XO? You just, because of you?
40:15 Speaker 02 Because of the way I was treated, I can never forgiving is fine when you get older. You can never go back to someone that stabbed you that hard.
40:24 Bunnie XO? Well, you could forgive but not forget.
40:25 Speaker 02 Yes. So it was one of the most painful things I've gone through.
40:29 Bunnie XO? Do you think maybe she's grown a lot since being a wife? And I'm just playing devil's advocate.
40:32 Speaker 02 Yeah, no, I honestly have no idea.
40:34 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
40:34 Speaker 02 I'm one of those people that now that I've, I've really helped myself, I don't lurk. It's like the old days, I would care what everyone's doing. It's so unhealthy.
40:42 Bunnie XO? It is. It's very toxic. I need to stop doing that.
40:44 Speaker 02 I don't, so I don't read the news. I don't know what's happening anymore. I don't care who's fucking who. What's this? Who did this? Who? I just don't care. It's so unhealthy.
40:54 Bunnie XO? You just get to a point of just serenity.
40:57 Speaker 02 But when you're in the same world, yes, you're told she has a kid now. That's crazy. Crazy.
41:04 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
41:05 Speaker 02 Insane that shit. That's fucking insane. And when you say also like, I hate children and then you have one, anyone's allowed to change their mind, obviously. I've grown a lot. It was wild to see someone become a parent.
41:18 Bunnie XO? Right.
41:18 Speaker 02 So hopefully it makes them nicer.
41:21 Bunnie XO? I feel like children soften women too. So, you know, you never know. Never say never. Maybe you guys will cross paths somewhere down the road and be able to.
41:29 Speaker 02 But I'm ready to share because I have never really talked about it. And I think that I never got to say my piece because no one wanted to hear what I had to say at the time.
41:36 Bunnie XO? I know. I just hate that for you. I feel like you're so misunderstood. Not now. I feel like with TikTok, everybody's starting to get to see the real you or the grown you. And I feel like everybody's loving it and embracing it.
41:49 Speaker 02 Her saying misunderstood was the only time today where I felt like a tinge of wanting to cry.
41:53 Bunnie XO? Aww, I love you. Guess what? You wanna hug? Let's hug.
41:58 Speaker 02 Later.
42:00 Bunnie XO? Listen.
42:01 Speaker 02 But yeah, it's hard when you have success to say you feel any type of way because people equate money to you feeling fine.
42:07 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
42:08 Speaker 02 I didn't, I never started the brand to make money.
42:10 Bunnie XO? Right.
42:11 Speaker 02 It grew insane and then I, so.
42:13 Bunnie XO? You started the brand because you came from nothing and you had something to prove.
42:17 Speaker 02 Yes.
42:17 Bunnie XO? You didn't wanna be a piece of shit. Your whole, or you know, whatever, a people, a derogatory name that people were calling you. I totally understand. I've been a hooker my entire life. Now I'm a millionaire because I fucking worked my ass off.
42:29 Speaker 02 Understand it.
42:30 Bunnie XO? Yeah, like they can't let go of that past, but they wanna, you know, they don't wanna acknowledge what I've done with my clothes on, you know? So I totally understand where you're coming from. Let's talk about the brand though. So you started in?
42:40 Speaker 02 I started it.
42:41 Bunnie XO? Twenty fourteen.
42:42 Speaker 02 So Kat was gonna be the investor.
42:44 Bunnie XO? Yes.
42:45 Speaker 02 Flips on me. We all know that, how that ended. And isn't it funny? She doesn't even have, own her brand anymore. It's gone.
42:51 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
42:52 Speaker 02 The irony in the last, my brand turns nine years old this November. Crazy. So grateful for the journey. We, so I then, in the music industry, I'm like, okay, I have no, I have no investor. I've already met the lab. The three colors are done. The formula's better than the ones on the market. I have no money. So I'm sitting there in full hopelessness, but I'm like, I'm still a hustler. Hello.
43:14 Bunnie XO? So how many dicks do I gotta suck?
43:16 Speaker 02 That's it. And, and shockingly, none to get the first loan.
43:21 Bunnie XO? Good for you.
43:22 Speaker 02 Isn't that great? So I start hitting up booking agents, people that are in the industry. Do you know anyone?
43:27 Bunnie XO? Connections that you've made by working your ass off.
43:29 Speaker 02 I know everyone. I know all the, all the booking agents from the little punk rock venues to the House of Blues to the arenas. And I'm like, okay, I'm gonna start networking. I start calling people. This guy that owns Sumerian Records had a meeting with me. And the co-owners of Sumerian Records, Ash and Jeff Cohen.
43:49 Speaker 02 invested in me and believed in the project.
43:51 Bunnie XO? Doesn't that feel good?
43:52 Speaker 02 It was insane.
43:53 Bunnie XO? To have somebody believe in you, in your vision.
43:55 Speaker 02 Clicked of like you, you have the funds to make the dream a reality. And all I needed was a hundred thousand. So I, I put everything I had in and they gave me the last of what I needed. On launch day, I paid them back in five minutes.
44:09 Bunnie XO? Wow. I just got goosebumps.
44:11 Speaker 02 It was beautiful. Cause it was so like, is anyone going to care? I'm like, I have to do a photo shoot. I do a photo shoot in a pink coffin.
44:19 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
44:19 Speaker 02 My first brand shoe ever. And my eyes are open and I'm like, the liquid lipstick you've all been dying for. Coming soon. And that was this journey of my, of even creating a website, letting people know.
44:31 Bunnie XO? Where you are.
44:32 Speaker 02 And then it was just like, you know, releasing colors and then the first highlighter and then the first lip scrub. And now it's spiraled into this massive thing. And it's just so beautiful and I'm so in love with makeup and I've changed the entire industry.
44:44 Bunnie XO? Literally.
44:45 Speaker 02 Everything I enter, even TikTok. I'm changing TikTok right now. I'm taking the credit. From doing the live streams and the live crowd.
44:51 Bunnie XO? Dude, we crack up seeing you on live all the time. I'm like.
44:54 Speaker 02 You never know what you're getting.
44:55 Bunnie XO? I'm like, Jeffrey is fucking hilarious.
44:57 Speaker 02 Really fun.
44:58 Bunnie XO? No, you're hilarious.
44:59 Speaker 02 And then battling like the TikTok creators and the people that I didn't know existed. And then be- becoming part of the family and then half of them fucking loving me and you know, half of them fucking hate me.
45:08 Bunnie XO? I, I don't think they hate you. I think they just hate to love you.
45:11 Speaker 02 Yeah. And they can't believe I joined their platform and I'm loving it. They, some people are shook at how much I love it.
45:18 Bunnie XO? When I saw you on there, I was like, Jeffrey's on TikTok. And I was like, it's about fucking time.
45:22 Speaker 02 I know. So in the pandemic, when it was this whole dancing era.
45:25 Bunnie XO? Hated it. I wouldn't do it either. I was like, you're not going to catch my fucking ass on there.
45:30 Speaker 02 It was the first time where I was like, wow, I'm not progressing with the internet culture.
45:35 Speaker 02 But YouTube is still so big. So let's go to, I start the brand. I learned what a beauty influencer is, rolling my fucking eyes in the back of my skull right now.
45:44 Bunnie XO? I feel like everybody's so catty in that industry and just.
45:47 Speaker 02 I start doing YouTube. I upload my first tutorial. Now remember, I always forget to tell this to people. No one had seen me. Without makeup on before.
45:57 Bunnie XO? Hmm.
45:58 Speaker 02 So my big.
45:59 Bunnie XO? Which I think you're gorgeous without makeup on. I love you without makeup on.
46:02 Speaker 02 I and a lot of people do. Thank you for saying that. But I wasn't ready and I felt insecure about it.
46:08 Bunnie XO? So it was your whole, it was your mask, your entire life.
46:11 Speaker 02 Exactly.
46:11 Bunnie XO? You hid behind that.
46:12 Speaker 02 Absolutely. And now that my trauma was starting to heal, I wasn't broke anymore. I had tax evasion. My bank account was frozen. No one knew any of this. And it was really, really dark times. I started.
46:25 Bunnie XO? The IRS is the real fucking gangsters.
46:26 Speaker 02 That's it. They love me.
46:28 Bunnie XO? But they do.
46:29 Speaker 02 They love me and it and I it transformed my entire life. So as I started to heal, the big shock was I'm gonna be bare face on YouTube.
46:38 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
46:38 Speaker 02 And I saw what the other girls were doing.
46:42 Speaker 02 So boring. We all know I fuck up everything I enter.
46:44 Bunnie XO? I love that you always want to do your own thing because I'm the same exact way. I don't want to follow everybody.
46:49 Speaker 02 That's it. So I enter YouTube. I'm the first person I'm doing a tutorial. I'm lighting up the bowl. They changed the rules. You can't do that anymore.
46:55 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
46:57 Speaker 02 Two thousand fifteen, sixteen, seventeen. Oh, my God. And then eighteen, nineteen was just obviously in fucking credible. And my channel went from a hundred thousand to eighteen million people. And it was just like, how is this real? From tutorials to showing everything about my, I call it my marriage, my five year marriage, from every surgery to every mistake is all on my channel.
47:15 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
47:16 Speaker 02 And I quit last year.
47:18 Bunnie XO? You shared your life with everybody.
47:19 Speaker 02 I did.
47:20 Bunnie XO? I was so invested in you and Nate's relationship. That is one thing.
47:22 Speaker 02 It was beautiful.
47:23 Bunnie XO? It was gorgeous to watch and.
47:24 Speaker 02 Thank you. Because I fell in love for the first time, not knowing it was gonna be on camera, really.
47:28 Bunnie XO? Right.
47:29 Speaker 02 And it was really cool.
47:30 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
47:30 Speaker 02 I finally felt loved for the first time by another man that didn't want me to be a secret. And it really helped me heal. So being in love in that relationship really helped me heal.
47:40 Bunnie XO? What happened with you guys, if you don't mind me asking? Can we talk about it?
47:45 Speaker 02 Um, there's a lot of paperwork involved.
47:49 Bunnie XO? Wow, really?
47:50 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah.
47:51 Bunnie XO? Wow.
47:52 Speaker 02 Yep.
47:53 Bunnie XO? On his part?
47:55 Speaker 02 Um, we, yeah, that, yep.
47:59 Bunnie XO? I just went and lurked his Instagram last night and he doesn't look like he's doing well.
48:02 Speaker 02 Really?
48:02 Bunnie XO? No.
48:03 Speaker 02 Oh, my God, that's so weird to hear because I don't lurk anymore. Obviously, this was.
48:06 Bunnie XO? I was like, where is he? Because I was writing my questions down.
48:09 Speaker 02 Oh, my God. This November, I'm four years single. I mean, no, I've dated people. That's not fair to say, but in a deep, real relationship.
48:16 Bunnie XO? Yeah. Are you, are, do you think that maybe you're scared?
48:19 Speaker 02 Of what?
48:20 Bunnie XO? Of falling in love again.
48:22 Speaker 02 Oh, that's a great question. No, I, I, and I'll get back to that. No, I'm, I'm open now. I'm not afraid.
48:28 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
48:28 Speaker 02 I'm not afraid at all. I know.
48:31 Speaker 02 No, I'm really not. Like, I'm very open to it. Um, haven't met the right person. I've dated some people. We've had a good time, la la la, but I haven't met anyone like I felt when I met him and our souls were like, wow.
48:45 Bunnie XO? Twin flames.
48:46 Speaker 02 Yeah, had no idea. So I have not felt that since. Our breakup can legally not be discussed.
48:54 Bunnie XO? Gotcha. I hate that for you, baby.
48:58 Speaker 02 I'm so sorry, everyone that wants the tea. I know, I know, I, I, it's not like I even want to talk about it. It's just, it's a normal thing.
49:05 Bunnie XO? Right.
49:06 Speaker 02 Like, you can legally talk about your breakups and whatever. I cannot, which is a different world we live in.
49:11 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
49:12 Speaker 02 So we had a great time.
49:15 Bunnie XO? Does, so there's not one person that you have met that has like just set your soul on fire?
49:21 Speaker 02 Not since.
49:21 Bunnie XO? Oh.
49:22 Speaker 02 Yeah.
49:22 Bunnie XO? You're just.
49:25 Speaker 02 That's my vibrator. It's on the bus.
49:27 Bunnie XO? It's my blood pressure cuff in my purse. When it goes off, people think it's a vibrator.
49:30 Speaker 02 It's the NDA vibrating in my backpack.
49:35 Speaker 02 Oh, fuck.
49:36 Bunnie XO? So moving on.
49:37 Speaker 02 Mm hmm. So you lurked. That's so funny.
49:42 Bunnie XO? Yeah, so, yeah.
49:43 Speaker 02 And what, and what is your synapses?
49:44 Bunnie XO? So I went.
49:45 Speaker 02 Miss Bunny?
49:46 Bunnie XO? Yeah, because I was writing on my interview last night and I was like, where the fuck is Nate? Because that is the only part of your life that I was ever invested in. I have not been invested since. No offense.
49:54 Speaker 02 No, I love that.
49:54 Bunnie XO? I don't get in the drama and I don't care. Like, I just love you as a human.
49:57 Speaker 02 I love that. Thank you.
49:59 Bunnie XO? So.
49:59 Speaker 02 So you did a little lurking for me?
50:00 Bunnie XO? I did. So I went on Nate's profile and he looks and I, you know, this is just my observation. I'm not saying anything. I don't know anything.
50:08 Speaker 02 Okay.
50:08 Bunnie XO? He looks. Like he might be under the influence of something, not positive, but he just doesn't look mentally okay. You know, so I don't know. I even said that to Haley earlier today. I was like, he didn't look good. Like you can look at you and see that you're glowing and that you're trying to heal and you know, be a better human. And with him, it just kind of looks like he's lost, probably.
50:30 Speaker 02 That's interesting.
50:35 Speaker 02 Oh my god.
50:37 Bunnie XO? Do you ever miss him?
50:39 Speaker 02 No.
50:39 Bunnie XO? Okay. Moving on.
50:42 Speaker 02 I love all the times we had though, and a lot of it, which is funny, is on camera.
50:47 Bunnie XO? Right.
50:47 Speaker 02 We went to Bora Bora for the first time together. Like those were so cool. And obviously there were so many moments off camera of, of love and affection. And you know, we, we had little pieces on YouTube, but it was a beautiful relationship. It really was. And I had really fell in love with the first time.
51:02 Bunnie XO? It served its purpose.
51:03 Speaker 02 Yeah. And it did. And it was so, it was really great for me because it really did, like I said, help me heal. And I think it's hard for people. If you haven't really fallen in love, what that feels like. Cause I thought it was made up and then it happened to me.
51:16 Bunnie XO? He probably helped heal a bunch of childhood trauma wounds, you know?
51:20 Speaker 02 It really did. Yeah.
51:21 Bunnie XO? Growing up in chaotic households like we grew up in, we searched for that puzzle piece. That can make us feel like the, you know, the little kid that we were before.
51:31 Speaker 02 And so cliche, when I stopped looking is when it hit.
51:34 Bunnie XO? Yeah. But hello, I've never dated a fucking, a big guy before. And I literally had sworn off all dudes and then here comes this fucking big squish. And he fucking just bounces into my life, dude. And I just love him.
51:45 Speaker 02 Connect and he cannot explain it.
51:47 Bunnie XO? At all. Like he is just seven years and I just couldn't imagine life without him. So it's gonna happen for you again too. Cause you're a beautiful human and you deserve to be loved.
51:55 Speaker 02 I agree and I'm, I'm open to it.
51:57 Bunnie XO? Yeah. Well, you guys hear that? Jeffrey's looking. Well, no, Jeffrey's not looking. He's open.
52:01 Speaker 02 You never know. Yeah. Right now I'm back in my ho era, I think.
52:05 Bunnie XO? Would it be a regular guy or would it have to be somebody who's on the same level as you? I would think trying to date you would be hard.
52:12 Speaker 02 It is. But I'm also really busy. So it's hard to, right now, want to give. A bigger piece of me right now.
52:20 Bunnie XO? Right.
52:21 Speaker 02 I'm obsessed with my ranch. I'm a real farmer.
52:23 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
52:23 Speaker 02 Like, I'm out there in Louis Vuitton, covered in yak shit. I got over three hundred and fifty yaks. I have four backdrain camels.
52:29 Bunnie XO? I know why you love yaks. I've come to the conclusion because I was pulling up a picture of them the other day.
52:34 Speaker 02 And they're the most diva of all cows.
52:36 Bunnie XO? I was like, what the fuck is a yak?
52:38 Speaker 02 Terminology?
52:39 Bunnie XO? Tell me that's not the scene kid of the animal kingdom.
52:42 Speaker 02 That is a Highland Scottish cow.
52:45 Bunnie XO? Okay, well, I thought it was a yak.
52:47 Speaker 02 But they look very similar.
52:48 Bunnie XO? Okay.
52:48 Speaker 02 They do look similar.
52:49 Bunnie XO? Gotcha. I was like, it's the hair. It's the emo hair. Like, he has to.
52:53 Speaker 02 Those are called, so though yaks that look like that are called super willys.
52:56 Bunnie XO? Okay.
52:56 Speaker 02 And there's different, like, hair on the yak, but they're all really beautiful. They're like, I call them the diva of all cows.
53:02 Bunnie XO? Are they fucking majestic as fuck?
53:04 Speaker 02 They are.
53:04 Bunnie XO? I can't wait. I'm so excited.
53:05 Speaker 02 I live at the base of a mountain.
53:06 Bunnie XO? Can I ride one?
53:07 Speaker 02 Yeah, um, you can ride a camel. No, no yaks. Yeah, but you can pet a yak. You can rub one to the ground.
53:12 Bunnie XO? Oh.
53:13 Speaker 02 They're really cool creatures.
53:14 Bunnie XO? And are they just so loving?
53:15 Speaker 02 Yeah.
53:16 Bunnie XO? I heard the coolest, uh, quote the other day that said, um, if you want to buy land and fill it with animals, it's because in the time of need that you had, uh, during your trauma, that was what the only thing that was there for you were the animals. And I was like, that's me. Cause I can't wait to dye my hair red and fucking be a gardener and fucking be ugly and just fucking have animals around me.
53:39 Speaker 02 Horrible food.
53:40 Bunnie XO? Right.
53:40 Speaker 02 That we're probably being poisoned with.
53:42 Bunnie XO? What is your diet?
53:44 Speaker 02 Um, pretty, uh, pretty bad. It's way better now.
53:46 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
53:47 Speaker 02 So let me, let me drop a shot. Let me drop a shocker. No fast food, really.
53:52 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
53:53 Speaker 02 Obviously, I've had In-N-Out once or twice a year, but I used to eat and promote fast food like it was part of my thing.
53:58 Bunnie XO? Right.
53:59 Speaker 02 And I do not, I haven't eaten fast food in like three years.
54:01 Bunnie XO? Yeah, I don't eat fast food either. I ate In-N-Out when we were in Vegas.
54:05 Speaker 02 Yeah, sometimes you have to.
54:07 Bunnie XO? I literally didn't eat in sauerkraut and ground chicken today to just make my tummy feel better.
54:11 Speaker 02 I love food, so like, and I, and I eat a lot of yak now.
54:14 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
54:14 Speaker 02 So obviously I raise them for pets and breeding, but now I have a full meat operation.
54:17 Bunnie XO? Do you have certain yaks that you love and they get to live?
54:20 Speaker 02 People always go in on me like.
54:22 Bunnie XO? You're killing your pets. Yeah.
54:23 Speaker 02 The ones I name and I'm rubbing on on Instagram obviously are not being slaughtered for meat. No, we haven't. We're not taking snowflake and snowstorm to the butcher. So we have a whole meat herd, which you'll see when you come to the ranch. And they're just there for food. We're in six restaurants now.
54:40 Bunnie XO? Wow.
54:41 Speaker 02 Unreal. We're in the busiest steakhouse in all of Wyoming called Fire Rock.
54:44 Bunnie XO? I love that.
54:45 Speaker 02 And it's wild. Oh, yeah. Or we'll cook them at the house, wherever you want.
54:48 Bunnie XO? Yeah, whatever you want to do.
54:49 Speaker 02 Yak steaks. So then, of course, I opened up my new store.
54:52 Bunnie XO? Right.
54:52 Speaker 02 The Jeffree Star store.
54:53 Bunnie XO? We're gonna go visit that tomorrow, too.
54:54 Speaker 02 Makeup and meat.
54:55 Bunnie XO? Okay, so let's, before we get to the store, you quit YouTube.
54:59 Speaker 02 Yes.
55:00 Bunnie XO? You fucking left LA.
55:01 Speaker 02 After almost nine years on YouTube, billions of views.
55:06 Bunnie XO? Did you just have enough?
55:08 Speaker 02 It ran its course, and then the drama from all my old friends, they ruined YouTube. I always, I'm, it's their fault. They really did.
55:14 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
55:15 Speaker 02 So they, the last final hurrah was two ex-friends uploaded a video full of lies about me, and it literally ruined the internet. It was at a point where people did not want drama anymore. It's on CNN, fifty million views, and they're all trying to flip on me because I just keep climbing and climbing.
55:31 Bunnie XO? Right.
55:32 Speaker 02 We all kinda, and then YouTube itself kinda broke. The beauty industry of YouTube was dead.
55:38 Bunnie XO? Right.
55:38 Speaker 02 We're all getting thirty million views. No one cares anymore.
55:41 Bunnie XO? Right.
55:42 Speaker 02 And it's a new era.
55:43 Bunnie XO? The monetization on it has changed even.
55:45 Speaker 02 Yes.
55:46 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
55:46 Speaker 02 But the cool thing is, all my old videos are still there.
55:48 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
55:48 Speaker 02 I get a check every month from Google. It's like residuals on music. It's pretty cool.
55:52 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
55:52 Speaker 02 So will I ever upload again? I don't know, maybe. I've been asked, when I launch big makeup collections, to go back and swatch them in a thirty-minute video.
56:00 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
56:00 Speaker 02 Versus this quick TikTok, like, how do you promote a collection with ten new items?
56:04 Bunnie XO? Right.
56:05 Speaker 02 With a quick little thirty-second. So you never know.
56:08 Bunnie XO? I think if anybody can figure anything out, it's you.
56:11 Speaker 02 Absolutely.
56:11 Bunnie XO? If you can make anything your bitch, it's you.
56:13 Speaker 02 Burnt out.
56:14 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
56:14 Speaker 02 So we're on twenty years of social media.
56:16 Bunnie XO? Yeah. You just needed a break. Your soul was tired.
56:20 Speaker 02 And then I discovered TikTok in a good way.
56:22 Bunnie XO? When you quit YouTube, did you, was that when you moved from LA to Wyoming?
56:27 Speaker 02 I'd already lived in Wyoming.
56:29 Bunnie XO? Oh, so you had already moved and you were already getting ready to just.
56:32 Speaker 02 Yep.
56:33 Bunnie XO? You were going through a change.
56:34 Speaker 02 Yes, a big one.
56:35 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
56:35 Speaker 02 And it was it was a necess it was necessary.
56:38 Bunnie XO? Did you leave LA just because of the the humans that are there? Because I tell everybody, like when Leo Scepi came on the podcast, I was like, Leo, don't go to fucking LA. It's not the same as it used to be. It lost its sparkle.
56:50 Speaker 02 It's lost its magic. It's really not what it used to be anymore.
56:53 Bunnie XO? At all.
56:54 Speaker 02 And I fell out of love with it.
56:55 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
56:56 Speaker 02 And then it was just getting so dark and toxic and just so many weird things are happening behind the scenes. And a lot of people did not want me around anymore because of this moment of like, when all the YouTube drama happened, I was going to expose a lot of people. And this is a tricky conversation. Someone else's, let me word this the right way.
57:21 Speaker 02 I got cocky and thought that I could expose someone else's trauma and story
57:31 Speaker 02 to X out someone else.
57:33 Bunnie XO? Gotcha.
57:33 Speaker 02 That person did not want me to. Therefore, this person is still free.
57:39 Bunnie XO? Wow.
57:41 Speaker 02 And that was very hard to deal with.
57:43 Bunnie XO? Right. Yeah.
57:45 Speaker 02 But it was also selfishly wanting to let everyone know, this person's a piece of shit.
57:49 Bunnie XO? Right.
57:49 Speaker 02 And it's like, I had to learn through my journey of healing and through therapy that was not appropriate, which is I never did it, obviously.
57:58 Bunnie XO? Right.
57:59 Speaker 02 But those thoughts were haunting me.
58:00 Bunnie XO? But your intention behind it was good.
58:02 Speaker 02 Yes, because so many people.
58:04 Bunnie XO? Trying to hurt somebody.
58:05 Speaker 02 Were supporting someone who is so awful.
58:07 Bunnie XO? Right.
58:10 Bunnie XO? It's that misunderstood thing again.
58:12 Speaker 02 Mm hmm. Yes. So the internet, as the roller coaster of my career has been, they wanted me to be the villain, I guess, that that year.
58:19 Bunnie XO? Everybody needs a villain.
58:20 Speaker 02 And it was crazy. So this person begged and pleaded me not to share what they had told me. I obviously respected it and never did it.
58:29 Bunnie XO? Right. That's still, that's shows that you're a good human. You know, you didn't do it.
58:33 Speaker 02 And to see this person still out there, they're not thriving like they used to be at all, is just interesting. But the industry does have demon demonic snakes.
58:42 Bunnie XO? Yeah, absolutely. I'll have to, you'll have to tell me who it is later, so I can steer clear of that human.
58:47 Speaker 02 Oh, his name is James Charles.
58:48 Bunnie XO? Oh, no, really? Damn it. Do we need to bleep that?
58:52 Speaker 02 No, no, James, you know, you're a biggest, he's the biggest piece of shit in the beauty industry.
58:57 Bunnie XO? Wow.
58:57 Speaker 02 And he allegedly has done a lot of horrible things. He admitted to talking to minors. He is a fucking piece of shit.
59:03 Bunnie XO? So that is true. I just, I always stay out of the drama.
59:06 Speaker 02 He did a video allegedly, not allegedly, admitting to sexting minors.
59:12 Bunnie XO? So I never knew this. Hey, we had a situation where he used one of my makeup artist's hacks and didn't tag her. So I just, on my backup account, I have a backup TikTok, TikTok account. I was just like, hey, James, we love you, we respect you, but you know, give credit where credit's due.
59:25 Speaker 02 He wants to be the one that.
59:27 Bunnie XO? He did, though.
59:27 Speaker 02 Oh, okay.
59:28 Bunnie XO? I was very surprised. Right. But what's crazy is everybody in the comments started telling me about the pedophile stuff and I was like, God, I didn't know, you know, like I stay out of it, but.
59:37 Speaker 02 One of the most vile human beings on this planet.
59:42 Bunnie XO? Lord.
59:42 Speaker 02 Yep.
59:43 Bunnie XO? That's crazy. Well.
59:45 Speaker 02 Honestly, and I have never really talked or addressed these things, but he is a literal fucking monster.
59:53 Bunnie XO? Wow.
59:54 Speaker 02 And the fact that he's out there and somehow has a beauty product, I guess, that just came out and A-list celebrities are promoting this alleged child fucker.
1:00:04 Bunnie XO? Is, um.
1:00:05 Speaker 02 People aren't ready for the truth. Everyone wants to keep their mouths shut and they keep, why?
1:00:09 Bunnie XO? Right.
1:00:10 Speaker 02 If someone is bad, let people know.
1:00:12 Bunnie XO? Yeah, no, I agree.
1:00:13 Speaker 02 You have A-list celebrities literally using this shit.
1:00:16 Bunnie XO? Has he been?
1:00:16 Speaker 02 It's all demonic and really dark and all those people, they stick together.
1:00:21 Bunnie XO? Has he ever been charged?
1:00:22 Speaker 02 I don't know. I don't think so.
1:00:24 Bunnie XO? Yeah. I think that's probably what.
1:00:26 Speaker 02 Will we see it in the future? Yes, I'm sure.
1:00:29 Bunnie XO? Well, also the Illuminati, though, not to keep bringing that up, but don't they use people like James Charles to bleed into? Other area, you know, because they can easily access minors.
1:00:41 Speaker 02 The children.
1:00:41 Bunnie XO? Right, yeah.
1:00:42 Speaker 02 He is a big problem. And I don't speak on him, but they tried to ruin my career because of all the information I had.
1:00:50 Bunnie XO? Wow. It's really brave of you to.
1:00:52 Speaker 02 So I moved away. I stood up to all of them, said fuck you.
1:00:57 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
1:00:57 Speaker 02 And I left that little LA county. And they're so controlled mentally by it. It's really sad. So.
1:01:05 Bunnie XO? And you're free.
1:01:06 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:01:06 Bunnie XO? You're literally.
1:01:07 Speaker 02 But it's shocking, honestly. It really is. And I never speak about this. People ask me about this shit all the time.
1:01:12 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
1:01:12 Speaker 02 I don't dwell. I don't really think about them. But when you start, you know, you're interviewing me. We're talking about the literal past.
1:01:18 Bunnie XO? No, I appreciate the honesty.
1:01:20 Speaker 02 And it's like, I'm always gonna keep it real.
1:01:21 Bunnie XO? Need to know. It's not fair. Well, you could be saving another child, you know, like.
1:01:26 Speaker 02 That part.
1:01:26 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
1:01:27 Speaker 02 But they don't take, people are not taking it as serious anymore. Or like new people discover someone and they're like, eh, whatever.
1:01:33 Bunnie XO? Well, hopefully they will after hearing you speak on it because somebody such as yourself who's been in the industry for so long, who has street cred, literally, you know, to be able to stand up to somebody as powerful as him, because he is a powerful dude.
1:01:47 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:01:47 Bunnie XO? And say that, you know, maybe people will start listening now.
1:01:51 Speaker 02 It's scary. Oh, it makes me sick just like thinking about his name.
1:01:54 Bunnie XO? Sorry. I had no idea.
1:01:56 Speaker 02 But I've learned that it's not, I don't need to expose anyone. I don't need to do any of that. It's all gonna play out how it's supposed to be.
1:02:05 Bunnie XO? It always comes to light. What's done in the dark always comes to light.
1:02:08 Speaker 02 And he is pure evil. Let me just leave it at that.
1:02:11 Bunnie XO? All right. Moving on to more beautiful things. Casper. Take me, take, we're gonna go see this ranch tomorrow.
1:02:20 Speaker 02 Exploded. I don't know Wyoming's coming, but I'm like, I'm just so over living here.
1:02:25 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
1:02:25 Speaker 02 And I also had an ego death.
1:02:27 Bunnie XO? I love that you know when to tap out.
1:02:28 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:02:29 Bunnie XO? A lot of people don't know when to do that.
1:02:30 Speaker 02 And you know about ego deaths?
1:02:32 Bunnie XO? Uh, yeah. Haley just had one on the PJ last night. She took a.
1:02:35 Speaker 02 What? Really?
1:02:37 Bunnie XO? She took a fucking edible and thought she died. She was looking.
1:02:40 Speaker 02 No, but I'm talking about like when you, your real ego, like diminishes.
1:02:44 Bunnie XO? Oh, yeah. No, I've been through, I went through a really, uh, bad domestic violence relationship where I almost died a couple of times.
1:02:49 Speaker 02 Horrible.
1:02:50 Bunnie XO? That will humble you and literally make you
1:02:54 Bunnie XO? take the shell of the human that you were off and become a different human. Yes, for sure.
1:03:00 Speaker 02 I'm playing this in my book, like, December nineteen, I'm single for the first time in five years. I move into the, one of the biggest houses in LA, the big, one of the biggest mansions in Hidden Hills.
1:03:11 Bunnie XO? Yeah, it was a big motherfucker. I remember seeing it online.
1:03:13 Speaker 02 Single, twenty-five thousand square feet.
1:03:17 Bunnie XO? That'd be lonely.
1:03:19 Speaker 02 Pandemic starts. We had so much fun, we filled so much content, but I had a realization, sitting in this massive home, surrounded by all these things, that it didn't make me happy.
1:03:31 Bunnie XO? Yeah, material shit doesn't make you happy.
1:03:33 Speaker 02 No, but I didn't know that because I didn't have time to really think until.
1:03:37 Bunnie XO? You were working towards the goal.
1:03:38 Speaker 02 Yes. So I don't know I want to leave California permanently. I just know I want to be away. I want to be in quiet. I want to actually go heal and not pretend and talk about it like all my ex-friends. And we, I've been to Wyoming so many times. I've been on tour, right, for years. We passed through here. Oh, my God, stunning. So I'm looking around, Jackson Hole is very famous. What a celebrities live there, big mansions, no land. I'm like, fuck this. This is literally like going to LA.
1:04:03 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
1:04:04 Speaker 02 We discover Casper. It's a small town, sixty thousand people, a hard-working town. People are nice.
1:04:11 Bunnie XO? Country boys everywhere.
1:04:12 Speaker 02 Yep, oilfield workers, farmers.
1:04:15 Bunnie XO? There are some really hot fucking oilfield workers. I see them on TikTok. I'm like, damn.
1:04:20 Speaker 02 Hot UPS workers, baby, listen. So we, we fly there a few times. We love it. Everyone's really nice. Instead of like LA, what do you do for a living? You know how they look you up and down? How can I use you? It's, how are you? I was like, people care.
1:04:35 Bunnie XO? To hear you say.
1:04:36 Speaker 02 Y'all really want to know how I'm doing?
1:04:37 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
1:04:38 Speaker 02 I had to train myself to like not.
1:04:39 Bunnie XO? That's how it was when I moved to Nashville.
1:04:41 Speaker 02 The guard had to come down a little. Fell in love with it. I find a property that has a bunch of land for sale around it, end of the road, no neighbors really, silence. Don't know I'm gonna become a farmer and own one yak.
1:04:56 Bunnie XO? Farmer Jeff.
1:04:56 Speaker 02 Farmer Jeff's in the building and all of a sudden I have all this land and I'm like, oh, okay. I had seen yaks on tour in Switzerland. Two thousand ten.
1:05:06 Bunnie XO? No.
1:05:07 Speaker 02 We're in Geneva. We're going through in the little tour bus. Yaks on the hillside.
1:05:11 Bunnie XO? Could you have ever imagined in two thousand ten that you would own a fucking yak farm?
1:05:15 Speaker 02 Insane.
1:05:15 Bunnie XO? That chance encounter with them.
1:05:18 Speaker 02 I Google, are they legal? It's a fucking bovine cow. I don't know this though, because I've only seen them in other countries.
1:05:22 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
1:05:23 Speaker 02 I Google it. There's even a yak farm in fucking town.
1:05:26 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
1:05:26 Speaker 02 I buy my first three.
1:05:28 Bunnie XO? Oh.
1:05:28 Speaker 02 You know, I can't leave it alone and just have them be my pets.
1:05:30 Bunnie XO? Right.
1:05:32 Speaker 02 Now we're.
1:05:32 Bunnie XO? I'm surprised they're not in the house with you.
1:05:34 Speaker 02 Sometimes they are.
1:05:35 Bunnie XO? Really?
1:05:35 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:05:36 Bunnie XO? Oh, my God.
1:05:36 Speaker 02 The little ones that are trained, they'll come in and out. They're really cute. The dogs love them.
1:05:40 Bunnie XO? I'm gonna cry.
1:05:41 Speaker 02 They're really cool.
1:05:42 Bunnie XO? I need that. I'm gonna go tell my husband right now. We need land.
1:05:45 Speaker 02 And there are yaks in Tennessee, even though it's humid there in the summer and I don't really recommend it. My friend does have a yak ranch out there.
1:05:52 Bunnie XO? My husband, actually, I told him last night about your land in Casper and he was like, dude, let's look for some land. I was like, I'll ask him if he knows anybody that's selling stuff. We're ready. We're trying to get a farm.
1:06:02 Speaker 02 In peace and quiet.
1:06:03 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
1:06:04 Speaker 02 There's nothing like it.
1:06:05 Bunnie XO? Yeah. So what does Jeff?
1:06:08 Speaker 02 Now we're here.
1:06:09 Bunnie XO? What does Jeffrey do next? Do you just kick up your feet and just fucking relax? Like, does the little boy in you?
1:06:17 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:06:17 Bunnie XO? Is he ever gonna be proud?
1:06:19 Speaker 02 I'm really proud now.
1:06:20 Bunnie XO? Good.
1:06:21 Speaker 02 I am. Running your nine of the brand, two years into skincare. I'm raising Tibetan yaks and camels.
1:06:27 Bunnie XO? I mean, come on.
1:06:28 Speaker 02 And the farm life is so fulfilling. So last year, for six months, I didn't travel, except twice to do photo shoots. Everyone came to me. Jay saw snow for the first time. We did a photo shoot in ten degree weather.
1:06:39 Bunnie XO? Your team, by the way, his team is here and they're just amazing.
1:06:43 Speaker 02 And we're in the snow, ten inches of snow, shooting the Wyoming winter campaign. Like, we've done so many cool things. So I didn't travel for six months. I got to really become a rancher.
1:06:52 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
1:06:53 Speaker 02 And it's me and a few guys. We do it all ourselves.
1:06:56 Bunnie XO? You get out there.
1:06:56 Speaker 02 All the time.
1:06:57 Bunnie XO? And just bust ass.
1:06:58 Speaker 02 Love it.
1:06:58 Bunnie XO? Oh, I love it.
1:06:59 Speaker 02 It's like my, my big pet project. I'm obsessed with it.
1:07:02 Bunnie XO? I love this for you.
1:07:04 Speaker 02 So now we're just growing it. More restaurants. We open, so we just opened up the store.
1:07:08 Bunnie XO? Right.
1:07:09 Speaker 02 Which Yellow have performed at, iconic.
1:07:10 Bunnie XO? Meat and makeup. Like, what a fucking crazy concept.
1:07:14 Speaker 02 Isn't it cool?
1:07:14 Bunnie XO? And a lot of people. Does it work?
1:07:16 Speaker 02 Oh, baby.
1:07:17 Bunnie XO? Yeah?
1:07:18 Speaker 02 I'm gonna call my store, one of the busiest retail stores in Wyoming history.
1:07:22 Bunnie XO? Wow.
1:07:23 Speaker 02 And September.
1:07:24 Bunnie XO? And you're there working it. I see you online, just working it.
1:07:27 Speaker 02 September fourteenth, two month anniversary.
1:07:29 Bunnie XO? No.
1:07:30 Speaker 02 It's a zoo every day, a line out the door. And then I started to like make up a funny concept, Celebrity Works the Register. It's my own store. I I'm very hands on with everything I do. So I'm like, you know what? I'm gonna go live and I'm gonna just help the customers out and like ring them up. Let's just see how it goes. I'm on a six hour stream. It's fucking crazy.
1:07:51 Bunnie XO? Insane.
1:07:52 Speaker 02 And me and TikTok are good friends now. We've just worked on a really big deal together.
1:07:56 Bunnie XO? Yeah, can we talk about it?
1:07:57 Speaker 02 Working on it.
1:07:58 Bunnie XO? Can we talk about it?
1:07:59 Speaker 02 Do some announcements soon.
1:08:00 Bunnie XO? Good.
1:08:00 Speaker 02 But they are very happy that I joined.
1:08:03 Bunnie XO? Uh, duh.
1:08:04 Speaker 02 One of the, one of the highest viewed streamers ever, which is crazy.
1:08:09 Bunnie XO? It's not crazy.
1:08:10 Speaker 02 And you guys seen the battles, right? And you've seen people go live, but you can send the gifts.
1:08:14 Bunnie XO? The fucking island boy is always on there.
1:08:16 Speaker 02 So the.
1:08:17 Bunnie XO? I can't stand that dude. He's, he's, he's a piece of shit also.
1:08:21 Speaker 02 They tried to battle me and I'm like, no.
1:08:23 Bunnie XO? Yeah, no, they're just not agreeing.
1:08:25 Speaker 02 So there's, it's all very addicting and it's very fun. And we're working on some big Jeffrey Star moments.
1:08:31 Bunnie XO? Yay.
1:08:33 Speaker 02 Which is so cool to be, and I'm the OG of social media.
1:08:36 Bunnie XO? That's what I was gonna say.
1:08:37 Speaker 02 The newest hottest platform, twenty years later, to be like, well, yes, sir.
1:08:42 Bunnie XO? You reinvent yourself. You're like the Madonna of social media.
1:08:46 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:08:47 Bunnie XO? Madonna's kind of, literally, you are, you literally reinvent yourself and you always know how to stay, you know, abreast of everything and just.
1:08:57 Speaker 02 He's relevant.
1:08:58 Bunnie XO? Always, always relevant, baby. I love that for you. And I love that this, this journey that you're on. I love this Jeffrey right here. Just, you seem so at peace.
1:09:07 Speaker 02 Proud of myself. So it's so cool that you said that, because I never really talked about that. I'm very grateful. I'm very humbled. And I wake up every day like it's my last and I just go hard.
1:09:15 Bunnie XO? I love it.
1:09:16 Speaker 02 I think if I'm given this opportunity, I can't be lazy one day out of my life.
1:09:19 Bunnie XO? No. So do you ever think you're gonna be able to rest?
1:09:23 Speaker 02 Currently, no.
1:09:24 Bunnie XO? You're a restless spirit like me. I don't, it's like I always have, no matter how proud of myself I am, it's like, okay, what can I do next? Like, I have to stay busy.
1:09:32 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:09:32 Bunnie XO? No, I get that. I totally understand that.
1:09:34 Speaker 02 And there's so many more dicks to conquer.
1:09:38 Bunnie XO? We didn't even get into the dicks.
1:09:40 Speaker 02 Isn't that nice? Finally, someone had me on their podcast and it wasn't about my deep throat. It wasn't about all the band guys and all the athletes.
1:09:48 Bunnie XO? No, I don't like that stuff doesn't.
1:09:50 Speaker 02 It's so, we've already done it all, especially from our past.
1:09:53 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
1:09:53 Speaker 02 Yeah, it's fun off camera. Maybe I'll show her a picture.
1:09:56 Bunnie XO? Yeah, no, I would like that.
1:09:57 Speaker 02 Maybe I'll show her a few A-listers.
1:09:58 Bunnie XO? We can, we can, we can compare notes.
1:10:00 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:10:00 Bunnie XO? For sure. But I just feel like there's so much more to you than the dicks you suck.
1:10:03 Speaker 02 Thank you. And it is fun.
1:10:05 Bunnie XO? You're a fucking mogul, dude.
1:10:06 Speaker 02 Thank you.
1:10:07 Bunnie XO? Like, you can pick any dick in the world and suck it. You know what I'm saying? You have the choice of dicks.
1:10:12 Speaker 02 Does the audience know that we've maybe slept with one or two of the same people?
1:10:14 Bunnie XO? Um, well, no, but they do now.
1:10:20 Bunnie XO? I never go into, I never discuss about who I slept with. So Jeffrey, except for that one time when MJ came on my podcast.
1:10:26 Speaker 02 Yes, and that, okay, so the reason, not the reason, but it accelerated our friendship. As I wake up one day, oh, it's accelerated, bitch. I wake up one day and I'm on TikTok and I'm just starting my journey. And I'm like, why am I getting tagged in this thing about fucking sucking dick? And I'm like, oh, typical. Then I'm, and it's you and your friend. And we're, and it was just hilarious.
1:10:49 Bunnie XO? Yeah, so my friend, so MJ, MJ Fresh came on the podcast and I get a fucking FaceTime. I'm on the phone with her. And I'm like, this is a Wyoming number. Do you think it's Jeffrey? And she's like, no, answer it. And I'm like, no, I'm not answering it because I don't know who it is, you know? Calls three more times and I'm like.
1:11:05 Speaker 02 I'm the only Wyoming number she should have on that phone. There's one area code for the whole state.
1:11:09 Bunnie XO? Literally.
1:11:10 Speaker 02 Shout out to 307.
1:11:11 Bunnie XO? So I text it and I'm like, you called? And he's like, bitch, this is your new bestie Jeffrey. And I was like, holy shit. And he's like, so I heard that I'm sucking dick. Long story short, Jeffrey, Jeffrey actually sucked one of my ex's dicks. And hooked up with MJ Fresh's ex. So that, that's how it had gotten brought up. And we were just like, shout out Jeffrey. What if I, he's a playa, you know?
1:11:34 Speaker 02 So can I ask a question?
1:11:35 Bunnie XO? Yeah, of course.
1:11:36 Speaker 02 How did she or you know?
1:11:38 Bunnie XO? So.
1:11:39 Speaker 02 That's all I've wanted to ask.
1:11:40 Bunnie XO? So my ex. Um, told me. Yeah, he, we, I'm very.
1:11:45 Speaker 02 From Vegas?
1:11:46 Bunnie XO? Yeah. He was like, Jeffrey sucked my dick one night. And I was like, how was it?
1:11:50 Speaker 02 The tall one?
1:11:51 Bunnie XO? Um, very tall and he's fucking built like he's got a little baby arm.
1:11:54 Speaker 02 Oh, my God.
1:11:58 Speaker 02 Oh, my God, I'm deceased.
1:12:00 Bunnie XO? Yes. So he told me.
1:12:01 Speaker 02 Very long.
1:12:02 Bunnie XO? Yeah, yes. So he told me and I was like, dude, how was it? He was like, it was the best.
1:12:06 Speaker 02 So I have a photographic memory. Last name?
1:12:08 Bunnie XO? Yes. Yep, absolutely. That's crazy that you know that. She said the tall one, the blonde, blonde, tall blonde. Um, yeah. So when that, when she, when he told.
1:12:18 Speaker 02 I'm deceased.
1:12:19 Bunnie XO? When he told me.
1:12:19 Speaker 02 Well, shout out to him for telling you.
1:12:20 Bunnie XO? And he said it was the best head he's ever gotten. And I was like, too fucking amazing. I need some lessons, obviously.
1:12:29 Speaker 02 Why do you think I flew in to do this?
1:12:30 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
1:12:33 Bunnie XO? I love it. I do have a question for you though about one hookup.
1:12:36 Speaker 02 Go ahead and, well, right now, he can fix it on camera. It's funny.
1:12:38 Bunnie XO? Yeah, that's fine. I don't care.
1:12:40 Speaker 02 Oh, my God. Can I have a sip? Can we share?
1:12:41 Bunnie XO? Of course.
1:12:42 Speaker 02 I'm clean.
1:12:42 Bunnie XO? No, you're fine.
1:12:43 Speaker 02 If a guy's flying out, he's getting 24 hour testing with the results to my email.
1:12:48 Bunnie XO? Yeah. Is that, do you meet people?
1:12:51 Speaker 02 Not that many people. I sound like I fuck every day. No.
1:12:53 Bunnie XO? No.
1:12:54 Speaker 02 Have I met some people? Yeah. Yeah, it's every other day.
1:12:56 Bunnie XO? You have to be very, you have to be guarded. Have you guys ever hooked up? No?
1:13:01 Speaker 02 But he, he's seen. Go ahead, tell him. Oh, so, so besides, can I say this or no? So besides doing wigs, Jay also does porn on the side.
1:13:12 Bunnie XO? Nice.
1:13:13 Speaker 02 He's a star.
1:13:14 Bunnie XO? I love that.
1:13:16 Speaker 02 Come, Kevin, come on.
1:13:18 Speaker 03 And Jeff was like, take me with you. And I said, well, this is for talent, but I'll bring you in.
1:13:26 Bunnie XO? I love that.
1:13:28 Speaker 02 Cause I'm like, where, where can I go in? Cause I started to get more famous as the makeup brands pop in.
1:13:32 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
1:13:33 Speaker 02 And I'm like, I don't want to go to this men's free clinic anymore. People are gonna think, oh, he has something. So he's getting checked. He'll make up the craziest shit.
1:13:39 Bunnie XO? Yeah, for sure.
1:13:39 Speaker 02 And I'm like, no, I just want to make sure I'm safe and clean, bitch.
1:13:42 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
1:13:42 Speaker 02 So I was like, damn, Jay, I don't want to go to this place anymore. People are gonna like take it, you know, cause you're in the lobby. Someone goes like this.
1:13:49 Bunnie XO? Yeah. Oh, no.
1:13:50 Speaker 02 Oh, my Lord.
1:13:50 Bunnie XO? And then they, they, you can have the rest of it. You're fine.
1:13:52 Speaker 02 Thank you. So.
1:13:53 Bunnie XO? They, literally people will say something and it's like word is bond. Like they, they don't have to have any proof. It just spreads like wildfire. Fucking does that shit to me every day. I'm always.
1:14:03 Speaker 02 Hook me up and, you know.
1:14:04 Speaker 03 But I have been on the Jeff, like, obviously being, and he's like right next to me doing it.
1:14:10 Bunnie XO? So you guys, are you guys like BFFs?
1:14:12 Speaker 02 Yeah, like obviously people can turn that into something. So it's like, you know, I'm in a very, very strong clique. We've all been friends for years.
1:14:19 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
1:14:20 Speaker 02 So I was like, hey.
1:14:21 Bunnie XO? I love that.
1:14:23 Speaker 03 Thank you, Kevin.
1:14:24 Bunnie XO? Of cour- well, look, I don't go any- these two are my shadow.
1:14:27 Speaker 02 That's it.
1:14:28 Bunnie XO? And Mimi, like, when you find your squad that you trust.
1:14:32 Speaker 02 We've had other employ- like, people have tried to fight us. They ran and I'm in, I'm literally like-
1:14:36 Bunnie XO? I wouldn't try to fight you guys.
1:14:37 Speaker 02 Looking like this and I'm like, I have his back always.
1:14:40 Bunnie XO? I want to see Jeffrey mad, running in full glam.
1:14:42 Speaker 02 Swinging.
1:14:43 Bunnie XO? I would pay for that.
1:14:44 Speaker 02 Swinging, baby.
1:14:46 Speaker 03 A fan wanted to take a photo, but Jeffrey was having a conversation.
1:14:50 Speaker 02 And you know, people have sometimes no boundaries, no respect.
1:14:53 Bunnie XO? At all.
1:14:54 Speaker 03 And the fan was feeling drunk and, uh, I don't tolerate not to respect.
1:14:59 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
1:14:59 Speaker 03 But God forbid a public figure or somebody, uh, acts on their feelings.
1:15:07 Speaker 02 Yep.
1:15:08 Speaker 03 They get bashful, right? Because they don't see the other side.
1:15:10 Bunnie XO? Yeah. Oh, absolutely. There's always two sides.
1:15:13 Speaker 03 Now, give me just one second, we finish this conversation.
1:15:16 Bunnie XO? Mm-hmm.
1:15:16 Speaker 03 The fan fell some type of way into a drink.
1:15:20 Speaker 02 I haven't had a drink thrown on me. I'm talking-
1:15:23 Speaker 03 And this was like a year ago.
1:15:25 Speaker 02 I'm talking, the marijuana's hitting. I'm talking 10 years. We're in Casper, Wyoming. She don't have- she can't get her photo right now. She throws a Red Bull can. It splashes my shoulder and it gets on him.
1:15:38 Speaker 03 And it gets more on me?
1:15:40 Speaker 02 Game over. Let's just say game over.
1:15:43 Bunnie XO? Oh.
1:15:44 Speaker 02 It's a wrap.
1:15:45 Bunnie XO? I don't understand how people feel so entitled to somebody's time and body.
1:15:48 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:15:49 Bunnie XO? It's just crazy to me.
1:15:49 Speaker 02 But I'm also so nice. I love taking pictures. Look how fucking sickening I look. I want to take a photo with you. I don't want to hide in the dark.
1:15:55 Bunnie XO? Yeah, for sure.
1:15:56 Speaker 02 I'm, hey, I'm just having a- people don't care.
1:15:58 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
1:15:58 Speaker 03 A lot of people also try to, uh, think that they can get away with attacks of guys too.
1:16:03 Bunnie XO? Yeah, that's crazy.
1:16:04 Speaker 02 Baby, I don't care who it is.
1:16:06 Bunnie XO? If you- don't start none, won't be none.
1:16:07 Speaker 02 That's it.
1:16:08 Bunnie XO? You know what I'm saying?
1:16:09 Speaker 02 But we're not about the disrespect, but most people are obviously really great. They are.
1:16:12 Bunnie XO? No, and we do this because of you guys. You know, like, without you guys, there is no us. So, alright, so I'm- I'm gonna ask you some questions. We're gonna end this on the hot seat. Dude, we've been talking for an hour and a half.
1:16:24 Speaker 02 Bunny's meeting, we're about to start. It goes by so quick.
1:16:27 Bunnie XO? It's crazy, right?
1:16:28 Speaker 02 What's, what's, it's not tripping me out, but it's really cool and, and amazing when I meet someone and it's like, I've known you for a long time.
1:16:36 Bunnie XO? Aww.
1:16:36 Speaker 02 Cause you know, some people, and I've been interviewed a lot, you've been interviewed a lot, and so has your husband. And he knows sometimes, or a lot of the time, the vibe, or it's the same fucking question. So like, girl, you don't have anything else to say?
1:16:46 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
1:16:47 Speaker 02 And I feel like I've known you for a long time. I love your energy.
1:16:49 Bunnie XO? I mean, I love your energy. I think that's the biggest compliment that you could ever give a human is loving their energy.
1:16:54 Speaker 02 Absolutely.
1:16:55 Bunnie XO? And I've always felt drawn to you. And I watched those three podcasts because I really have not kept up with you. And when I got done watching them, I told my girls, I was like, he is me. Literally, like, we're like, the same type of human. It's just crazy.
1:17:08 Speaker 02 So she has watched me do a few podcasts and then been on them. It's, don't you find it weird sometimes of some, how people act on camera with me versus with other people?
1:17:19 Bunnie XO? Yeah, yeah. Uh, uh, yeah. I, I brought that up to you before the show. I was like, you know, maybe they're not straight, but we're not gonna say names on.
1:17:26 Speaker 02 Can I get a?
1:17:28 Bunnie XO? Yes, exactly. Alright, so this is called the hot seat. I'm gonna ask you a couple, probably like six questions.
1:17:35 Speaker 02 I'm ovulating.
1:17:35 Bunnie XO? You have to answer them as fast as you can, okay? Alright, marry, fuck, kill. Kanye West.
1:17:42 Speaker 02 Okay, marry, fuck, kill. Let's go.
1:17:44 Bunnie XO? Yep. Kanye West. Jelly Roll. Drake.
1:17:49 Speaker 02 Ooh, this fucking bitch.
1:17:56 Speaker 02 I know. Oh, I, I, listen.
1:17:59 Bunnie XO? Listen, Inquiring Minds wanna know, I feel like Drake swings the other way.
1:18:04 Speaker 02 So we're gonna marry Drake, fuck Jelly Roll, and behead Kanye West with a guillotine.
1:18:11 Bunnie XO? Okay, gotcha.
1:18:12 Speaker 02 And all my life, I have never slept with that man. We've been in the same room. I've fucked a bunch of his friends. I've sucked off some of his homies.
1:18:20 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
1:18:21 Speaker 02 I don't like short dudes.
1:18:23 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
1:18:23 Speaker 02 That, it's like guys that wear eyeliner.
1:18:25 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
1:18:26 Speaker 02 I, I'm not into short kings. You're not a king if you're short. Cause you, uh-uh.
1:18:30 Bunnie XO? I love tall guys, too.
1:18:31 Speaker 02 So, yeah, my average is like a nice six, four and up.
1:18:34 Bunnie XO? Right.
1:18:35 Speaker 02 Tallest I've been with, six, ten.
1:18:36 Bunnie XO? Cause you're six, one, right? And you wear heels.
1:18:38 Speaker 02 Mister six, ten, call me.
1:18:41 Bunnie XO? I mean.
1:18:41 Speaker 02 He's overseas playing basketball right now.
1:18:42 Bunnie XO? I was gonna say, that's gotta be hard to find, a six, tenner. What's the weenie on that look like?
1:18:46 Speaker 02 Oh my goodness!
1:18:48 Bunnie XO? Literally.
1:18:49 Speaker 02 Oh lord, it's giving medium rare, it's giving thick, it's giving stunning.
1:18:58 Bunnie XO? What's the dirty, what's the dirtiest thing you searched on your phone last?
1:19:04 Speaker 02 I'm gonna be a disappointment.
1:19:05 Bunnie XO? Okay.
1:19:05 Speaker 02 I don't really search dirty things.
1:19:08 Bunnie XO? Right.
1:19:08 Speaker 02 Um, I'm, I'm someone that's really into POV. I love when people film me on my phone. Another man has never filmed me on their phone.
1:19:16 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
1:19:17 Speaker 02 Um, but on my Google searches.
1:19:18 Bunnie XO? That's amazing that you've never let another man film you.
1:19:21 Speaker 02 Hell no, and when they come over, your phone's in the car.
1:19:23 Bunnie XO? Wow.
1:19:24 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:19:24 Bunnie XO? Do you make them sign NDAs? Absolutely. See, people get mad at me for making bitches sign NDAs.
1:19:29 Speaker 02 No, it's real.
1:19:29 Bunnie XO? You have to, you have to protect yourself, dude.
1:19:31 Speaker 02 And you also know when you've been doing this for a long time, as ex prostitutes, you know someone's energy.
1:19:36 Bunnie XO? Absolutely.
1:19:37 Speaker 02 Whether they a band groupie, a normal girl on the street, or an escort, you know if someone's trying to be fishy.
1:19:43 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
1:19:43 Speaker 02 And you don't think we know if someone's trying to pull a cap.
1:19:45 Bunnie XO? But even if they're not trying to be fishy at that time, once they don't have your time or your attention, then they get fucking shady, dude.
1:19:51 Speaker 02 Wow.
1:19:52 Bunnie XO? Like, that's how people are.
1:19:54 Speaker 02 That's a big statement.
1:19:54 Bunnie XO? It's so fucked up. What's the worst thing you've ever sent to the wrong person?
1:20:02 Bunnie XO? We airdrop people on planes, just fucking around all the time. We fucking, we'll like screenshot nasty shit.
1:20:08 Speaker 02 When something is near something, I have, but thank god it was with a friend.
1:20:12 Bunnie XO? Right.
1:20:13 Speaker 02 Of like, here's a wiener in my mouth. Like, that could ruin my, not, to me, it wouldn't ruin my career, people would actually like that.
1:20:19 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
1:20:20 Speaker 02 But like, you wanna see a picture that Jay took?
1:20:22 Bunnie XO? Sure, I would love to.
1:20:23 Speaker 02 This is on a little private jet moment.
1:20:25 Bunnie XO? I'm like, I would love to.
1:20:26 Speaker 02 Yeah, and obviously, like, hey, would, you know, do, are you down to take a photo? Cause there's, there's weird artists, like, there's the R. Kelly side, and then there's like, your, your friends and you all have fun side, okay?
1:20:36 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
1:20:36 Speaker 02 We're in the very fun side of life. When we're in the private jet and the sky is just blinging, it just looks stunning.
1:20:46 Bunnie XO? Whose wiener is that? All I saw was dick.
1:20:49 Speaker 02 Isn't that cute?
1:20:50 Bunnie XO? I didn't see the body it was attached to.
1:20:52 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:20:53 Bunnie XO? That is a huge wiener.
1:20:54 Speaker 02 Isn't that cute?
1:20:55 Bunnie XO? Goodness.
1:20:55 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:20:56 Bunnie XO? It's very cute.
1:20:57 Speaker 02 It's beautiful, right? But I love, and I'm really into like a nice 12.
1:21:02 Bunnie XO? That is huge.
1:21:03 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:21:04 Bunnie XO? Do you take that?
1:21:05 Speaker 02 So my maximum of deep throating, and I'll admit this on Bunny's show, is a 12 inch.
1:21:12 Bunnie XO? Right.
1:21:12 Speaker 02 After that, I can't take anymore.
1:21:14 Bunnie XO? I mean, that's 12 inches is a lot.
1:21:18 Bunnie XO? Do you take that?
1:21:19 Speaker 02 This folder is banging.
1:21:20 Bunnie XO? All right, let's finish these questions.
1:21:22 Speaker 02 Oh, my God. Look at these fendi glasses.
1:21:25 Bunnie XO? Good Lord. That is beautiful. That was a beautiful penis.
1:21:31 Bunnie XO? That was a different penis, right?
1:21:32 Speaker 02 Oh, way different.
1:21:33 Bunnie XO? Okay, I was like, that one's gorgeous.
1:21:34 Speaker 02 Those were three.
1:21:35 Bunnie XO? I need to see who that's attached to later.
1:21:37 Speaker 02 Okay.
1:21:38 Bunnie XO? I'm getting for climped.
1:21:39 Speaker 02 I'm in heat.
1:21:40 Bunnie XO? He's for climped over here.
1:21:41 Speaker 02 Who's not doing merch right now?
1:21:43 Bunnie XO? Jack, Jack from Sleeping With Sirens. He's over here.
1:21:46 Speaker 02 Never hooked up with him either.
1:21:47 Bunnie XO? Really?
1:21:48 Speaker 02 But a lot of his friends.
1:21:48 Bunnie XO? We were trying to put.
1:21:49 Speaker 02 He's too short.
1:21:50 Bunnie XO? We were trying to put bets on Alex or Jack. I was like.
1:21:52 Speaker 02 Neither, on God, neither. Yeah, too short.
1:21:54 Bunnie XO? We'll bleep this out.
1:21:55 Speaker 02 They're both too short.
1:21:56 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
1:21:56 Speaker 02 No, you don't have to bleep it out because I didn't.
1:21:58 Bunnie XO? He said too short. What's the grossest thing that comes out of your, that has came out of your body?
1:22:08 Speaker 02 Huh, I'm usually really quick.
1:22:11 Bunnie XO? I stumped Jeffrey.
1:22:14 Speaker 02 Huh.
1:22:15 Bunnie XO? Jay's like, I know.
1:22:19 Speaker 02 I'm like, I know, because I'm like, I'm very like, I'm so clean. Like, I never sweat. I never smell. I'm so like a cleanly person. Something like going out is like, I got hair transplant surgery, so seeing my, so seeing my skin. I know this is the answer people want, but seeing the skin removed while you're awake and then having it, because you're giving yourself an organ transplant.
1:22:37 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
1:22:37 Speaker 02 And then seeing it move to the front was crazy.
1:22:40 Bunnie XO? Was that painful?
1:22:40 Speaker 02 Yeah, fuck, yeah, it was. And it was worth every penny.
1:22:43 Bunnie XO? Worth every penny? My husband wants that. And I'm like, baby.
1:22:45 Speaker 02 My doctor's the best in America.
1:22:47 Bunnie XO? Okay. Oh, he's out here.
1:22:48 Speaker 02 Yeah, it takes like two or three weeks to heal. So when he's on the next album or doing something not on tour, amazing time to do it.
1:22:55 Bunnie XO? All right, I'll talk to him about it.
1:22:56 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:22:57 Bunnie XO? All right.
1:22:59 Bunnie XO? We got you hooked up, Daddy.
1:23:00 Speaker 02 Oh, my God. We got you, baby. Doctors Daring, we love you.
1:23:02 Bunnie XO? All right, would you rather make out with a dude who chews tobacco or go down on a girl on her period?
1:23:09 Speaker 02 Girl on a period.
1:23:09 Bunnie XO? His face. I said the same thing because they could keep a tampon in. You know what I'm saying?
1:23:15 Speaker 02 Period.
1:23:15 Bunnie XO? Exactly. And then I just the.
1:23:17 Speaker 02 Wyoming and all the fucking chew disgusting.
1:23:20 Bunnie XO? Chew's gross or how they spit in bottles.
1:23:21 Speaker 02 I don't want to make out with you with that fucking tar on your gums. I'm not doing it.
1:23:25 Bunnie XO? It's nasty.
1:23:26 Speaker 02 I'm not doing it. I don't do cigarettes. Uh-uh. And your cum tastes weird. Absolutely not.
1:23:30 Bunnie XO? No, yuck. Tangy, tangy cum. It's so gross. What's your favorite song right now?
1:23:37 Speaker 02 Sexy Red and Suki Hood Rats.
1:23:40 Bunnie XO? He loves Sexy Red.
1:23:41 Speaker 02 I'm obsessed with.
1:23:42 Bunnie XO? Literally.
1:23:43 Speaker 02 Hip hop. Ooh. And then I'm, I'm, I don't even know this person. Oh my God, the penis is still on my phone. Jesus, that was big. Oh my God.
1:23:51 Bunnie XO? No, it was a big penis.
1:23:52 Speaker 02 Oh my God, bitch. Look at the other angle.
1:23:53 Bunnie XO? No, it's crazy.
1:23:55 Speaker 02 That was like a ten and a half.
1:23:56 Bunnie XO? I love how happy you look with a dick in your mouth, though. Like you literally like it's.
1:24:01 Speaker 02 It's my happy place.
1:24:02 Bunnie XO? Jay is over here shaking his head right now.
1:24:05 Speaker 02 I'm gonna shout out a newer, a newer country artist, Josh Malloy.
1:24:10 Bunnie XO? Yeah.
1:24:11 Speaker 02 Fucking incredible.
1:24:12 Bunnie XO? You humped him?
1:24:13 Speaker 02 No, no, no, no, not yet. Uh, he has a song called Met the Devil in Oklahoma.
1:24:17 Bunnie XO? Okay, I haven't heard of him yet. You have to play it for us on the bus.
1:24:19 Speaker 02 It's cool.
1:24:20 Bunnie XO? I can't wait.
1:24:20 Speaker 02 And I love country. I just don't do the tobacco, y'all.
1:24:23 Bunnie XO? No, it's so gross.
1:24:24 Speaker 02 So if you want to fuck this face and use me as a basketball, no tobacco.
1:24:28 Bunnie XO? Listen, and I'll tell you right now, the pictures I just saw, I've never seen a happier human with a dick in their mouth.
1:24:34 Speaker 02 Really?
1:24:35 Bunnie XO? Like you're just lit up like a Christmas tree.
1:24:36 Speaker 02 Yeah, besides the like doing makeup, that's my happy place.
1:24:39 Bunnie XO? I love it. I love it. And I love you. I appreciate you coming on the podcast, Jeffrey.
1:24:44 Speaker 02 I'm so glad my knee's transplant's healed before I came here.
1:24:49 Speaker 02 On a real level, you guys, Bunny is a fucking queen. She's a mogul. She's an entrepreneur and I have so much respect for you and thank you for having me on your show, baby.
1:24:55 Bunnie XO? For that. I appreciate you so much.
1:24:57 Speaker 02 Thank you.
1:24:58 Bunnie XO? You want to shout out your socia's? I'm sure everybody knows where you're, you're at.
1:25:00 Speaker 02 Jeffreystar.com. Jeffreystar on literally everything.
1:25:03 Bunnie XO? And no OnlyFans.
1:25:04 Speaker 02 I'm so easy. OnlyFans offered me a lot of money. Almost did it, started doing all that type of stuff. Didn't take the deal, didn't need the money, but it was also very exciting, but it's just not time.
1:25:16 Bunnie XO? Not yet.
1:25:17 Speaker 02 So in the future, I don't honestly know.
1:25:19 Bunnie XO? Hold out like you did with TikTok.
1:25:20 Speaker 02 I don't have the desire to right now.
1:25:22 Bunnie XO? Yeah, absolutely.
1:25:23 Speaker 02 Is there a tutorial coming of me the 12 inches? I think that would be hot.
1:25:26 Bunnie XO? I think somebody, we need that tutorial. Cause I was told by an ex that he was the best head he ever had and I'm pretty, I like to pride myself. I can't believe that, cause it's, listen, this dude has a fucking little baby arm is what I call it. It's like a fucking huge.
1:25:39 Speaker 02 Anacondas have nothing on me.
1:25:41 Bunnie XO? Crazy. Oh, it's gonna be a long trip back to Wyoming.
1:25:44 Speaker 02 That's it.
1:25:45 Bunnie XO? Do we have cucumbers on the bus?
1:25:46 Speaker 02 All right, y'all, dislocating jaws since 1985.
1:25:50 Bunnie XO? Thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of Dumb Blonde. I will see you guys next week. Bye.
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