Ron Taylor Is Funny AF | Your Mom's House Ep. 860

Check out Tom's new bakery, Ciccio Bomba, at the new third location at 1100 South Lamar Blvd in Austin, right across from the Alamo Drafthouse. SPONSORS: - Find LUCY near you at http://lucy.co/stores, or save 20% on your first online order at https://lucy.co/YMH with promo code YMH. - For simple, online access to personalized and affordable care for Hair Loss, Weight Loss, and more, visit https://Hims.com/YMH. - Find furniture, decor, and essentials that fit your unique style and budget. Head to https://Wayfair.com right now to shop all things home. - Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial today at https://shopify.com/ymh What does it actually feel like to win a Netflix comedy competition while running out of time on stage every single round? Ron Taylor, the winner of Netflix's Funny AF, sits down with Tom to break it all down, from the electric energy of the finale to the surprising strategy that accidentally worked in his favor. Ron grew up in Detroit, stumbled onto a stage at 18 with zero material, and spent 16 years grinding through black rooms, mainstream clubs, and bar shows before getting his shot. He and Tom go deep on what separates a real comedy special from just a collection of jokes, why a tight 60 minutes will always beat a self-indulgent 90, and how Ron's questionable time management might have actually won him the whole thing. They also get into the nuances of the roast comedy debate, a game of "Tom or Black?", check out some horrible or hilarious clips, and Ron's honest take on what the Mothership crowd feels like compared to the Comedy Store. Your Mom’s House Ep. 860 https://tomsegura.com/tour https://christinap.com/ https://store.ymhstudios.com https://www.reddit.com/r/yourmomshousepodcast Chapters 00:00:00 - Intro 00:04:52 - Opening Clip: Waking Up Sleeping Guy 00:13:27 - Getting Started In Detroit 00:18:04 - The Secret To A Great Comedy Special 00:27:13 - Comedy Aspirations 00:33:57 - The Moment Ron Knew He Could Win 00:39:46 - Content Creation vs. Stand-Up Focus 00:47:16 - The Blackface Debate (Real Talk) 00:55:01 - Tom Or Black? 01:04:05 - Mothership vs. Comedy Store Crowds 01:06:53 - Horrible or Hilarious 01:13:19 - Wrap Up 01:14:41 - Closing Song - "Always High And Tight" by DeadRoses Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Tom Segura?

  What's up? Are you in Austin? Are you visiting Austin? Do you live in Austin? Well, I welcome you to please come check out Chicho Bomba. That is the Italian bakery that I have opened in Austin. We are now at three locations. We're at the Fairground Food Hall underneath the Wells Fargo Building downtown. We are in the lobby of the Scarborough Building. And we have our all new flagship location at 1100 South Lamar, right in front of the Alamo Drafthouse. We have pastries, we have coffee, we have homemade Italian sandwiches. We have pizza, we have pasta. So just come in, rub my big belly, which is in our statue, eat some food and enjoy yourself. And I hope you have a good time at Chicho Bomba, which means little fat ass.

• 0:45Speaker 01

  Welcome, welcome to Your Mom's House.

• 0:55Tom Segura?

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• 1:39Tom Segura?

  of what is arguably the best time of the year to be a cigar guy. Use code YMH at checkout for 20% off your orders of $50 or more, or visit cigarsinternational.com/ymh. And the discount applies automatically. Some exclusions apply. Welcome to another episode of Your Mom's House. I am here today joined by the winner of Netflix's own Funny AF. It's the great Ron Taylor, everybody.

• 2:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:10Tom Segura?

  Listen to that. Listen to that.

• 2:12Speaker 02

  Appreciate it.

• 2:13Tom Segura?

  It's pretty crazy that I can say I was there.

• 2:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:18Tom Segura?

  I was there and if you don't yet follow Ron, follow him on Instagram at comedianronT. You can get all information for shows there.

• 2:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:29Tom Segura?

  It was a, I have to tell you before I get your take. I did an episode early on in the season where I did like the showcase in LA.

• 2:41Speaker 02

  You were, you were the LA one?

• 2:42Tom Segura?

  Yes.

• 2:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:43Tom Segura?

  So in LA, I flew out, I went to the improv, it was like during the day. And Kevin and I watched like, I don't know, like a dozen or so comedians.

• 2:53Speaker 02

  Yep, yep.

• 2:54Tom Segura?

  And it was fun, you know, it was like, it was a good atmosphere and I was like, oh, this is cool. And you saw like, some people had great sets, people had good sets, people were like, okay. Kind of like what you expect.

• 3:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:04Tom Segura?

  And for whatever reason, you know, I just expected kind of like the same sentiment. You know, the same kind of energy and everything on the finale. I just, I didn't know what to expect. I was like, oh, it'll be like that.

• 3:17Speaker 02

  Right.

• 3:18Tom Segura?

  So we go to this theater in downtown LA and I'm just like getting ready to like, kind of go through the same thing. And when we, we walked out as the, like the guest judges, like we weren't really judging, but you know, Nikki and I walked out. First I was like, oh shit, the, uh, the energy in here is pretty hot right now.

• 3:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:38Tom Segura?

  Cause I was like, which like, you don't always get at taping. Sometimes tapings fucking blow.

• 3:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:43Tom Segura?

  And so I'm like, oh fuck, okay, this is cool. And then there was four finalists.

• 3:49Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 3:50Tom Segura?

  And I'm sitting there on the couch with her and like after every set, I'm like, oh my God, like these guys are destroying. It was fucking electric in there.

• 3:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was. And all the crowds, especially ones that get to the theater shows. So we had the roast in the theater, the topical in the theater, then we had the semifinals and the finals.

• 4:11Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 4:12Speaker 02

  And because we were still in production of the show, we didn't really see the warm up guy. Go out there and do it. So when we got out there, we kind of were just feeling like, God damn, this warm up guy is amazing.

• 4:25Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 4:25Speaker 02

  I don't know what he did. I don't know if it was all him.

• 4:28Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 4:28Speaker 02

  Or if it was just like you said, the environment, the energy. But something was going on, like they really wanted to laugh and it was a bunch of them, you know, it's theaters like. All of us at that point had played a theater before.

• 4:41Tom Segura?

  Uh huh.

• 4:41Speaker 02

  But they didn't come for us. We just happened to be there.

• 4:44Tom Segura?

  That's right. That's right.

• 4:45Speaker 02

  So it was kind of different when, you know.

• 4:47Tom Segura?

  Cause now they're excited to see you guys.

• 4:49Speaker 02

  Right.

• 4:50Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 4:50Speaker 02

  Right.

• 4:51Tom Segura?

  And I, I said this, um, I think I said this to you later that night at the Comedy Store. But, um, I don't remember cause I, I was telling other people, but when I left there. I feel like whenever you see good stand up, no matter who it is. If you're a stand up, it makes you want to do stand up. Like you feel inspired.

• 5:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was the interviews afterwards. I saw that.

• 5:13Tom Segura?

  Yeah. And I was like, I want to go do stand up. So I went to the store and did a spot because I was like, I felt so fired up. Watching you guys. I was like, I gotta get on stage.

• 5:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, I did a spot too, but it was like, oh, I gotta get to work now.

• 5:26Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 5:26Speaker 02

  I just burnt 30 minutes of little time I got and I gotta, you know, either rebuild or replenish. So.

• 5:32Tom Segura?

  Yeah. Well, it's a good to have that mentality, you know? It's definitely good to have the mentality of like, accepting that you, first of all, that you can, right? Like that, some people go like, I'm done. Like I burned it. And you're like, it's not how it works.

• 5:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 5:47Tom Segura?

  You can, you can keep doing it, but we'll get all into it. I'm just going to play you an opening clip here and then we'll, we'll get into the show. Here's our opening clip of the show.

• 5:57Speaker 03

  Hey, get up, get up, get up. We got money to get.

• 6:01Speaker 01

  Bro, get the fuck out of here.

• 6:02Speaker 03

  Nah, we got money to get.

• 6:02Speaker 01

  Get the fuck out of here.

• 6:03Speaker 03

  It's money to get.

• 6:04Speaker 01

  Get the fuck out of here.

• 6:05Speaker 03

  Nah, we got money to get.

• 6:08Speaker 03

  Hey, bro, you better, you better, you better watch it, bro. Yeah, all right. You gonna fuck around and find out. Fuck you motherfucker.

• 6:19Speaker 01

  Don't bring anyone mothering to this. Your mama in the fucking stand! Welcome, welcome to your mom's house. With Tom Segura.

• 6:30Speaker 04

  And Christina Pajitsic.

• 6:34Speaker 01

  Welcome to your mom's house.

• 6:59Tom Segura?

  It's kind of a long intro.

• 7:00Speaker 02

  Hey, that's alright, man. We hear a hip-hop remix.

• 7:11Tom Segura?

  We have a sick kid at the house, so Christina's not here today.

• 7:14Speaker 02

  Oh, okay.

• 7:15Tom Segura?

  He's got the hantavirus, or whatever it's called.

• 7:18Speaker 02

  Jesus.

• 7:19Tom Segura?

  Yeah, whatever.

• 7:19Speaker 02

  What's that?

• 7:20Tom Segura?

  Well, I'm not getting that shit, I'll tell you that. I was like, you can stay around that. So, I gotta, so, I gotta tell you too.

• 7:29Speaker 02

  First of all, that video, I feel for that guy.

• 7:32Tom Segura?

  Oh, yeah, right?

• 7:32Speaker 02

  I have to say, as a fellow van dweller.

• 7:36Tom Segura?

  Yeah, you are a van dweller.

• 7:37Speaker 02

  That was mean. To be woken up.

• 7:39Tom Segura?

  Oh, it's the worst.

• 7:40Speaker 02

  And you always think it's the police.

• 7:42Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 7:43Speaker 02

  So to see somebody messing around, saying, "We got money to get." If I had money to get, would I be in a fucking van?

• 7:49Tom Segura?

  I know, I know. It's both upsetting and funny. Because like, it's funny to wake someone up who is clearly napping and be like, "We got money to get." But, but there's nothing worse than being woken up for no reason. Like, if somebody just fucks with you to wake you up, it's one of the meanest things you can do. It's, you know, probably right there with disturbing while you're taking a shit. Because that's also a really fucked up thing to do.

• 8:14Speaker 02

  I dated a girl who did both of those.

• 8:15Tom Segura?

  She would fuck with you?

• 8:16Speaker 02

  Yeah. She had no sense of like, privacy when it came to the bathroom.

• 8:21Tom Segura?

  That sucks.

• 8:22Speaker 02

  She would come in and it's like, "I could be doing anything in here. It's nowhere sacred." And she would wake me up, now granted, I get this, but this is almost worse because it's like, you could wait. She would wake me up and try to fuck. She tried to suck my dick awake, which is like, it's fine. But the only thing better than a blowjob is, is sleep.

• 8:41Tom Segura?

  Sleep's amazing.

• 8:42Speaker 02

  Like fucking, just hold your horny horses.

• 8:45Tom Segura?

  I, I would say you're an evolved man. A lot of people would, would contest that. Would it be like, she's like, well, I'm up. So let's, let's do this. Is that how it would be?

• 8:54Speaker 02

  That's how it would be expressed, but if I'm being real with you, I think it's fuck him. I'm gonna wake him up and have it be in a way that he can't be mad at me.

• 9:05Tom Segura?

  Oh, right, right. Yeah.

• 9:06Speaker 02

  What? I just wanted to suck it. You could have waited.

• 9:10Tom Segura?

  How early would she be doing this to you?

• 9:12Speaker 02

  You know, when, when you wake up before you're ready to wake up?

• 9:16Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 9:16Speaker 02

  You feel like you could sleep another six hours.

• 9:18Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 9:19Speaker 02

  It might only be 30 minutes in real life.

• 9:21Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 9:21Speaker 02

  But it's just like, an hour?

• 9:24Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 9:24Speaker 02

  You know, if you see I'm dead asleep.

• 9:27Tom Segura?

  Yeah, dead asleep and then like wake up.

• 9:29Speaker 02

  It'd be different if I rolled over.

• 9:30Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 9:31Speaker 02

  Bitch, I'm dead.

• 9:32Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 9:32Speaker 02

  And you're fucking with stuff. And then when I'm wide awake and I grab you, uh, my head hurt. I was asleep. That ain't stop you.

• 9:38Tom Segura?

  See, this goes back to my review after seeing you that you are, you have the soul of an older man. Cause a young man would be like dick sucks all day. But an, an older guy goes, you know what? Sleep first. I wanna sleep first.

• 9:53Speaker 02

  We need that.

• 9:54Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 9:55Speaker 02

  If I don't sleep at this point, especially in my life, all the drinking and drugs I've done. If I don't sleep, I won't be able to get it up anyway.

• 10:02Tom Segura?

  Right.

• 10:02Speaker 02

  I need to recharge my body. Give me a break, please.

• 10:05Tom Segura?

  That makes a lot of sense. I like sleep more than anything. Sleep over everything, man.

• 10:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 10:10Tom Segura?

  Yeah. I mean, sleep over food, sleep, yeah. Sleep is, it's the best. It's, there's nothing greater. And also it fucks, it dictates the day.

• 10:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 10:20Tom Segura?

  The whole day is dictated by sleep.

• 10:22Speaker 02

  Your mood, your energy.

• 10:23Tom Segura?

  Everything.

• 10:24Speaker 02

  Your, your mental clarity.

• 10:25Tom Segura?

  Do you have, are you just like a crash guy? Or do you have like a sleep routine? Like, do you prepare yourself for sleep?

• 10:31Speaker 02

  At this point in life, I'm trying to, you know? Uh, but the only thing I could do is like, try to just. Just regiment the amount of sleep. That's kind of the only thing I can control at this point. You know, there's times where I'll have a spot at the mothership at like 11:50.

• 10:47Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 10:48Speaker 02

  So I can't have a bedtime of 10 o'clock if I'm still trying to get up.

• 10:51Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 10:51Speaker 02

  So it's like, hopefully I don't have anything to do in the morning and then I can like sleep at least at this point. I really want seven, but if I get six, I'm good.

• 11:00Tom Segura?

  That's my cutoff point, too. Everyone's different. Six to me is I can still have a productive day.

• 11:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 11:05Tom Segura?

  Less than six, I feel like absolute shit. And if I can get seven or eight, it's golden.

• 11:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, man. It's definitely needed. Like I said, I've kind of beat my body up, so it's gonna take some time.

• 11:15Tom Segura?

  Were you like a big partier?

• 11:18Speaker 02

  No, but drinker.

• 11:20Tom Segura?

  Yes, drinker. What was your drink of choice?

• 11:23Speaker 02

  Whatever's free.

• 11:25Tom Segura?

  Free stuff.

• 11:25Speaker 02

  I mean, throughout my drinking career, like if I started drinking at 21, about when I worked at the store, when I became a door guy, so about 24 to about 20. Well, I'll give it, I'll give it 30. Yeah, I'll give it 30. I was, I was going, I was going hard, but I didn't know I was going hard.

• 11:50Tom Segura?

  Right.

• 11:50Speaker 02

  You know, and when it's like, I mean, I guess I kind of knew, but I didn't know that your body would react like that.

• 11:55Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 11:56Speaker 02

  You know, it's funny when they say like addiction, I'm thinking like, oh, that just means you can't stop. No, it means if you stop, your body stops working.

• 12:03Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 12:03Speaker 02

  I can stop doing anything, but when you're fucking shaking or whatever the fuck, or you can't wake up.

• 12:08Tom Segura?

  So you were drinking like that?

• 12:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, I mean, I did a lot of stuff like that. It's a whole nother story, like 2020, you know.

• 12:14Tom Segura?

  Well, 2020 fucked up a lot of people.

• 12:16Speaker 02

  We had fun, but yeah, yeah, I've got to sleep.

• 12:19Tom Segura?

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• 14:29Tom Segura?

  And you started, you started in Detroit, right? Where you're from?

• 14:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, correct.

• 14:33Tom Segura?

  How did, when, how old were you when you first got up?

• 14:37Speaker 02

  18.

• 14:38Tom Segura?

  So how long you been doing Sam now?

• 14:39Speaker 02

  16.

• 14:40Tom Segura?

  Okay, so that makes sense to me why you're so polished. That makes sense.

• 14:45Speaker 02

  Appreciate it. Yeah.

• 14:46Tom Segura?

  You also, I couldn't tell if you were like 19 or 38. I can't tell.

• 14:51Speaker 02

  That's funny.

• 14:52Tom Segura?

  But it's one of those things where like, were you also, because I felt this way from the couch, watching you guys. The finalists were Osama, you, Kaitlyn and-

• 15:03Speaker 02

  Reg Thomas.

• 15:04Tom Segura?

  Reg?

• 15:05Speaker 02

  Reg Thomas. Yep, yep.

• 15:07Tom Segura?

  I was fucking, honestly, man, like I've said it, but like I was blown away. Were you like impressed with how good people were?

• 15:18Speaker 02

  I don't know about impressed because these are my peers.

• 15:21Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 15:21Speaker 02

  So I can't, I can't personally knew like what everybody could do.

• 15:25Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 15:26Speaker 02

  I guess I was impressed with all of us, myself included.

• 15:30Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 15:30Speaker 02

  At how we, especially come the finals.

• 15:33Tom Segura?

  Mm hmm.

• 15:34Speaker 02

  And how we all recognize like.

• 15:36Tom Segura?

  The moment.

• 15:36Speaker 02

  The moment and like it was, in a way, it was almost easier than some of the other stuff.

• 15:41Tom Segura?

  I understand.

• 15:42Speaker 02

  You knew it was it.

• 15:43Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 15:43Speaker 02

  Win, lose or draw, this is it. I'm going balls to the walls. There's nothing left for me to hold on to, which strategy of winning a competition, and that's a whole nother conversation we could have, but like it's kinda when you've got, you know, I don't wanna say limited material, but you, when you perform in an hour, as you know, like there's some jokes that work because they're here.

• 16:05Tom Segura?

  Yes.

• 16:06Speaker 02

  Or at least they work really well because they're here. Once you start isolating things from a constructed hour.

• 16:11Tom Segura?

  It's very different.

• 16:12Speaker 02

  It's different. So how do you plan picking?

• 16:16Tom Segura?

  Did you plan when you're going into this and as you're progressing, save this if I get that far like?

• 16:23Speaker 02

  A little bit, right? So quick backstory on that. Long story short, I did a competition years ago, like in Kentucky or somewhere like that.

• 16:32Tom Segura?

  Mm hmm.

• 16:33Speaker 02

  And it kinda was like a place system until the finals. So, you know, the first three get, get, you know, move to the next one. And I was getting first place, first place, first place. The last one, first place winner wins it. But all the people who were coming in third and second were saving material for the finals.

• 16:51Tom Segura?

  Ah.

• 16:51Speaker 02

  And then I lost and people were like, what the hell? This guy was great, but it had nothing to do.

• 16:56Tom Segura?

  Uh huh.

• 16:56Speaker 02

  With the last ones. It was about this one.

• 16:58Tom Segura?

  Right.

• 16:59Speaker 02

  So I kinda learned from that. I ain't gonna call it a mistake, but from that situation going into this competition, there were some things where I was like, I think I can get away with not doing this one yet.

• 17:10Tom Segura?

  Mm hmm.

• 17:11Speaker 02

  But. I can't say like, oh, yeah, I know I'm gonna make it, then I'm gonna do that.

• 17:14Tom Segura?

  But you had the thought at least of like, you gotta have something super, put together, solid to perform later on.

• 17:22Speaker 02

  Right, either that, or, which I kinda did both. Whatever I do, I'm gonna have to beef up like it's a closer.

• 17:30Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 17:30Speaker 02

  Like, you know, sometimes, I guess when you're trying to get, I heard Louis CK say this, when he's trying to beef up jokes, like he'll, I forget where he put it.

• 17:38Tom Segura?

  He put it at the front.

• 17:39Speaker 02

  He put it at the front.

• 17:39Tom Segura?

  I heard that too.

• 17:40Speaker 02

  Right, so I kinda was like, doing these jokes that sometimes would go in the middle of my actual act. As if they were my big closer. So I kinda beefed them up, and you know, you turn it on a little more, you just turn it, kinda turn up the volume, so. Between that and like, saving some, in a way, that's what ended up happening. But more than all of that, the biggest thing that happened to me in this competition, that I think that helps me win, other than supporting, you know, me working hard and all that stuff. The sets were five minutes, so what you saw in LA, was five minutes. And then, in LA, we did the callbacks, that was five minutes.

• 18:23Speaker 02

  That, that second five minutes in LA, I just didn't, I'm not used to doing five minute sets. So, I had planned three jokes, I only got to two. I couldn't get to the closer of that five minute set. Had I known I wouldn't get to the closer, I wouldn't have picked these first two jokes. I did it, but I got through anyway. Now I still got that closing joke. Then it happened again, oh, I'm trying to get to this joke, I don't have time, I'm running out of time. I ended up still getting through anyway. I got these two closing jokes that I actually meant to do earlier in the competition. And that's what I ended up closing with, like, the finals and semifinals.

• 19:01Tom Segura?

  Wow.

• 19:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 19:02Tom Segura?

  Wow.

• 19:03Speaker 02

  Just poor time management, that's, that's what happened.

• 19:06Tom Segura?

  I noticed this regularly when I'm on tour, so when I'm on tour, I'm doing an hour a night, right? You're doing an hour, hour, like, and you just get like, into this thing of like, I'm doing an hour, five, six times a week.

• 19:17Speaker 02

  Right.

• 19:18Tom Segura?

  And then you come back home and you're like, I'm gonna go do a set. And then you start to go like, wait, how do I do a 15 minute set?

• 19:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 19:26Tom Segura?

  Like, your brain kinda goes like, do you try to do these chunks? And what I found was that- It was, a lot of times, it felt more challenging than going into, like, the hour, you just go, first of all, you can breathe.

• 19:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 19:37Tom Segura?

  You can set the table and you can just, like, get into your thing.

• 19:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 19:40Tom Segura?

  But the, the shorter time makes you really start to do the math of like, how will I start the set? How do I build it? How do I close it? And within this, these parameters.

• 19:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, and I guess it really gave me an appreciation for the start of a comedy career. My comedy career, a comedy career, because you start doing small amounts of times. And the small amounts of times are the more, are, are, you know, it's the important stuff.

• 20:08Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 20:08Speaker 02

  You get three minutes at the store.

• 20:10Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 20:11Speaker 02

  You go to open mic, you get five minutes. Like you said, you're on the road, you're doing an hour. And I didn't even realize that sometimes I'm like, I'm doing a five-minute setup. You know, it, it.

• 20:22Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 20:22Speaker 02

  It'll pay off, but it's like, I forgot, oh, like, you can make things funnier faster if need be. Like, it's almost like a skill that I just stopped working at because I'm trying to work at the skill of doing an hour.

• 20:37Tom Segura?

  Dude, I just did this, I did an interview in, in LA during Netflix is a Joke, and they asked me, like, what have you, like, what is one of the things you've learned from doing specials? And I was like, well, the, the thing, one of the things that stands out, aside from like, the, you know, the writing, performing thing, I go, is I'm better at editing.

• 20:54Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 20:55Tom Segura?

  Right? Because editing is essentially what you're talking about.

• 20:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:57Tom Segura?

  And not just like onstage, even in the edit. When you sit in the bay and you watch a special, when you're a younger guy, anything that gets a laugh, period, you're like, yeah, fucking leave it in, right? You got a laugh. And what I, what I noticed was that I developed a skill over time to watch the, the, the first cut of a special, that's obviously the longest version, and go like, yeah, that got a big laugh, but it doesn't, it doesn't tell you anything. It's not, it's kind of like, it's not the best joke, like, just cut it. And sometimes, like, the editor will be like, cut that? I'm like, yeah, cut it. It's not, it's not helping this hour set. Let's make it as tight as possible in the edit. So every special I've done actually gets shorter.

• 21:41Speaker 02

  Huh, interesting. Obviously, I have not had that situation. I haven't done a bunch of hours to even think about that. But that's, that's, that's pretty interesting, uh, place to get to.

• 21:51Tom Segura?

  I also thought that like, I think about that in the special. The other thing that I realized in live shows was there's this thing amongst comedians of like, almost like a sense of pride and, and, and like bragging sometimes of like, how much time you can do, right? So it's like comedians will be like, I did, I did seventy, I did eighty, I did an hour and a half. And this is what I, I've discovered about live headlining in, in big rooms. You can, if you have an hour and a half, you can do it and, and perform it. The difference is if you cut it down to the tightest sixty, like the tight, like it's a tight sixty.

• 22:33Tom Segura?

  When you say goodnight, A, they'll pop out of their seat, like it's a boom. And they'll leave going like, fuck, that was awesome. I wish that was longer.

• 22:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 22:43Tom Segura?

  When you see an hour and a half, and I've, I've been in the audience for that as well as on stage for that. When you say goodnight, they go like this, they stand up and they don't go, God, I wish there was more. They're like, God damn, we gotta get to the fucking car.

• 23:01Speaker 02

  That's funny.

• 23:01Tom Segura?

  And I just feel like it's something that I've noticed over time that there's a reason that like, it's called like an hour. Should be, if you can get it there, the polished tightest version of that set. Anything over, I mean, you know, obviously you do sixty-two, sixty-five, but once you start getting into like seventy-five, eighty, ninety, I think it's just gratuitous masturbatory, like.

• 23:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, and there's definitely some of that. And I know, especially in, uh, you know, black comics, we, you know, cause.

• 23:37Speaker 02

  Like, I remember hearing that, uh, Chris Rock would do two hours.

• 23:40Tom Segura?

  Really?

• 23:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:41Tom Segura?

  Well, Dave would famously do like six sometimes.

• 23:44Speaker 02

  I've been there for that. I've never seen Chris Rock do two hours and I might even have that wrong, but I remember hearing that. And it's like, you know, it's, I don't know if it's like, hey, hey, look how long I can captivate these people's attention or.

• 23:56Tom Segura?

  Maybe, and I should probably say like, look, those guys can do whatever the fuck they want. I'm talking about the rest of, uh, mortal people.

• 24:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:03Tom Segura?

  Like, I feel like you can just tell if you're like dialed in, you're paying attention, that people want, can pay attention and laugh and have a good time for about that amount of time. And they start getting antsy and looking at their phones and like kind of wondering when this is wrapping up, if you start going well over that.

• 24:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, I've found that like when, and again, I think this was Chris Rock I heard say this, like, there's a difference between like a special and a collection of jokes.

• 24:33Tom Segura?

  Mm-hmm.

• 24:34Speaker 02

  And that's what I've been trying to work on like for the last 10 years at this point. It's like, if I just do every joke that I've ever wrote that I remember and that works, I could probably do like two and a half hours.

• 24:49Tom Segura?

  Right.

• 24:49Speaker 02

  And I'd still be forgetting some stuff.

• 24:51Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 24:53Speaker 02

  And if they're not, you know, if they care at all, they'll probably still laugh even at, you know, two hours, 30 minutes. But that's not special.

• 25:00Tom Segura?

  Uh, yeah.

• 25:01Speaker 02

  That's not, there's no cohesive story.

• 25:03Tom Segura?

  Right.

• 25:03Speaker 02

  There's no points. Like you said, there's like, okay, that was fine, or maybe even that was good. And then they're ready to go.

• 25:10Tom Segura?

  Mm-hmm.

• 25:11Speaker 02

  But trying to make a hour that like, almost has an arc, has a story at the, like you said, at the end, like, oh man, I wish I had more or like, oh, that's what you're, I see it now.

• 25:26Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 25:27Speaker 02

  That is what I understand to be a special.

• 25:30Tom Segura?

  I think you're right.

• 25:31Speaker 02

  Craft that, I don't.

• 25:35Speaker 02

  I don't know. I haven't, I don't want to say I haven't done it because I don't want to crap on anything I've put out before.

• 25:40Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 25:40Speaker 02

  But I look forward to mastering it.

• 25:44Tom Segura?

  Oh, yeah. And you will. You have the fucking goods, man. You're gonna, you're gonna kill this special for sure.

• 25:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, I appreciate it.

• 25:51Tom Segura?

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• 27:01Speaker 05

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• 28:22Speaker 02

  Huh.

• 28:24Tom Segura?

  Was like bar shows and stuff like that?

• 28:25Speaker 02

  Okay, so the first place I technically did stand up, I went to Wayne State for theater arts. I shouldn't went for engineering or something. That's a whole nother story. Went there for theater arts. I think did one semester, the next semester, I think I forgot to enroll or something stupid, but there was a comedian named Mike Green who came to our school. Now, I was in college for theater arts because I wanted to be a comedian. And I heard Dave Chappelle say in a James Lipton interview or something like, if you want to be a comedian, you gotta go to school for theater arts, whatever. So that's what I did.

• 29:05Tom Segura?

  Wow.

• 29:06Speaker 02

  So now I'm just in school, learning about plays and the Stanislavski method and all this stuff. But I'm just trying to tell jokes. I'm now technically out of school, but I'm hanging around the campus. This guy, Mike Green, comes to the school. He's doing a show. I got friends in the audience and they're laughing about something or whatever. Looking back on it, now I know they were heckling, but like the comedian, Mike Green, is probably just collecting a check. Who's a great guy, but he's like, whatever. Hey, what are you kids laughing at? My friends were like, he's got a joke he wants to tell you, pointing at me. That wasn't true. I don't know why they said that. And he said, hey, you think you're funny? You think you can tell a joke? I didn't say nothing. He said, you guys want to see him tell a joke?

• 29:49Speaker 02

  They're like, yeah. And that went up on stage. So that was my first time getting on stage.

• 29:55Tom Segura?

  Seriously?

• 29:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, which is just, it's a weird.

• 29:57Tom Segura?

  But you had nothing planned?

• 29:59Speaker 02

  No.

• 29:59Tom Segura?

  And did your, so your friends knew you had this comedy aspiration? Like that's why they did that?

• 30:03Speaker 02

  Correct.

• 30:03Tom Segura?

  So what'd you do when you got on stage?

• 30:05Speaker 02

  I had just told stories that I had told people before that kinda uh uh uh got me into. That's how people even knew I was funny from just talking stuff. I think I had made something, uh, well, I had embellished something about like going out on a date and not being able to get it up, pissing in a condom, jerking off on the toilet and shitting and sneezing. Just fucking potty.

• 30:30Tom Segura?

  You said all that?

• 30:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 30:32Tom Segura?

  And wait, how did it go?

• 30:33Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 30:34Tom Segura?

  You blacked out?

• 30:35Speaker 02

  Completely blacked out. I don't know if they laughed. I don't know if there were people there.

• 30:39Tom Segura?

  Do you remember how Mike responded to you at all?

• 30:44Speaker 02

  Vaguely. I think he just shook my hand and then, and then I came back.

• 30:48Tom Segura?

  Wow.

• 30:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 30:49Tom Segura?

  And then, did you befriend him from this?

• 30:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 30:52Tom Segura?

  So what, you went and talked to him after the show?

• 30:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think so. And he told me some different places and I think it was him that told me about Joey's Comedy Club.

• 31:02Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 31:02Speaker 02

  Right.

• 31:03Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 31:03Speaker 02

  So, uh, back then, you know, uh, smartphones weren't as prevalent as they are now. But, you know, I had this GPS app and I just put in the word comedy in GPS. And everything that came up, I just called or went to. So I went to a bunch of stores that just sold comic books and stuff like that, you know? I had called people, there were people who put their business information in the GPS. So it went directly to comedians. I'm like, hey, you guys a comedy club? He said, no, I'm a comedian. Are you trying to book me? I said, fucking no.

• 31:33Tom Segura?

  Wow.

• 31:34Speaker 02

  So yeah, I went to Joey's and I took a comedy class.

• 31:38Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 31:39Speaker 02

  You know, I read all the books in the library about comedy. So those are the first places I went up, at Joey's Comedy Club, like Mark Ridley's. Then I made a white comedian named Jeff Horace. Who showed me the black rooms in Detroit?

• 31:54Tom Segura?

  He showed you?

• 31:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, I didn't even know they existed.

• 31:57Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 31:57Speaker 02

  I knew black comedy existed. I was just like, I guess black people don't do comedy in Detroit because the black comedy rooms weren't clubs.

• 32:04Tom Segura?

  Mm hmm.

• 32:05Speaker 02

  They were bars.

• 32:06Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 32:06Speaker 02

  I'm 18. I haven't been to any of these bars. How would I even know?

• 32:09Tom Segura?

  Sure.

• 32:09Speaker 02

  Then I go to starters with Tony Roney and start hanging out around Mike Bonner, you know, Def Jam guys, Comic View guys, and then now I'm doing Bakers with Kool-Aid. He was a Detroit legend, God rest his soul, and I'm just, now I'm getting, now I'm doing both. But that's what kept me comfortable in both worlds, that technically I started in mainstream clubs.

• 32:30Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 32:30Speaker 02

  Naturally, you know, I can do black rooms. That's kind of what I am.

• 32:36Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 32:36Speaker 02

  And I think that's helped me progress throughout my career, uh, outside of, you know, unlike some of my good friends and peers, you know, it's a comfortability level.

• 32:47Tom Segura?

  You feel comfortable in both rooms?

• 32:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:49Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 32:49Speaker 02

  I feel home in both. It's like, oh, hey, my cousin. Oh, hey, the place I started.

• 32:55Tom Segura?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 32:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:56Tom Segura?

  So that, yeah, that for sure gets you way further than somebody, because what, the thing that happens to most comedians, I feel like, especially early on, is they go like, okay, this, I'm only comfortable here. I'll, I'll perform here. And then they hear about, this is a gay show, this is a black show, and they're like, ah, it's not for me. I, I'm, I want to go over here.

• 33:15Speaker 02

  I, I hate that, man.

• 33:16Tom Segura?

  Yeah, I know.

• 33:17Speaker 02

  I hate that. And I'm, I'm, especially now, because of this competition, one of the craziest things about winning i- is, is people do change up, but they change up in such interesting ways.

• 33:29Tom Segura?

  Mm hmm.

• 33:30Speaker 02

  No one's asked me for anything, you know, what do you want, to open up for my special, you know, it's like, it's not like there was a lottery or prize money, but people now, people I've known forever, are now acting as if the information I have is more valid. So now they ask me questions about comedy or whatever. It's like, what, I'm, you didn't care yesterday?

• 33:51Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 33:51Speaker 02

  The information is not different at all.

• 33:53Tom Segura?

  Right, have the same opinions.

• 33:54Speaker 02

  But I would. I have people come up to me, and I have been over the last couple of days, over the last week, asking me like, hey, well, how can I get up? How can I get better? I'm like, you don't, you don't do the store.

• 34:06Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 34:06Speaker 02

  You hate the store.

• 34:07Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 34:08Speaker 02

  You need to crack that nut. Like, that, that's your issue. You hate chocolate sundaes. Go do that. Like, oh, well, they don't get my stuff. That's the point. Once they get it, once you make them get it, then you can take that and take it elsewhere. Like, there should not be a place in comedy that you cannot make those people laugh.

• 34:28Tom Segura?

  Well, now they just feel like you're credible, you know? They're like, before you were just another guy, and now they're like, well, he's, he's won this thing, so he's credible now.

• 34:36Speaker 02

  Which, I mean, I guess.

• 34:38Tom Segura?

  I mean, yeah, that's how people think, you know? Yeah.

• 34:41Speaker 02

  Just, just get up. Like, you can have your favorite places.

• 34:45Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 34:45Speaker 02

  Like, I've got rooms that I like over other ones.

• 34:47Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 34:48Speaker 02

  But if somebody said, hey, go make them laugh.

• 34:50Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 34:50Speaker 02

  I can do it. I've, I've practiced it.

• 34:52Tom Segura?

  Yeah, well, that's why you're, that's why you're good, man. Um.

• 34:55Speaker 02

  I'll take it.

• 34:56Tom Segura?

  Yeah, I mean, that's, that's definitely. I gotta say also the thing that, so I'm, I'm, I'm on that couch, I'm watching each of you guys, right? And every set, I'm like, this is fucking fantastic. And then we're sitting there, and they get to the voting. Yeah. And, and man, Kevin Milks, that moment, like a real showman.

• 35:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 35:19Tom Segura?

  Where it's like, and the tension, I, I found myself going like, read the fucking envelope, man. Like, he was really building it up to, he eliminated two, and then it was you two, and then he was like, now, let's see, but first.

• 35:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 35:33Tom Segura?

  And like, and we're like, what are you doing? And, but it really worked, where like, the tension built so much. In that moment, when you hear your name called, are you like, oh my God? Like, is it heart racing?

• 35:49Speaker 02

  I don't know if it was heart racing.

• 35:54Speaker 02

  All right, I'll tell you the truth here.

• 35:57Speaker 02

  I figured it was possible during the semifinals.

• 36:01Tom Segura?

  To what, to win?

• 36:02Speaker 02

  To win.

• 36:02Tom Segura?

  Okay.

• 36:03Speaker 02

  It was feasible.

• 36:04Tom Segura?

  What made you think that?

• 36:05Speaker 02

  So throughout the entire competition, there were fan favorites. If you're just watching it as a show, those favorites were Osama and, uh, not Olivia. Well, she was another one, but Caitlyn. Right? Both of those people got pushed through in some part immediately. And the audience is watching this as pre-recorded. So you already know that these are the favorites because they're technically, I mean, they're Kevin's favorites. He said, hey, there's no deliberating this next round you're going through. It happened with Osama twice, and I'm not sure how many times it happened with Caitlyn. But they also were killing.

• 36:46Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 36:47Speaker 02

  Osama's getting, uh, standing ovations down there every set. Caitlyn is getting standing ovations down there every set, and everybody else is killing on top of that.

• 36:56Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 36:57Speaker 02

  Once we get to the semifinals and they're gonna do the first runoff voting, or whatever they call that style of voting.

• 37:09Speaker 02

  I know that it's gonna be, because they, they, when they first split us, it was black versus white. This is inside. They, they had us draw numbers and it just happened to be like me, Reg, Osama versus the three white people.

• 37:23Speaker 02

  So they had to.

• 37:24Tom Segura?

  Good.

• 37:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm like, no, keep it that way if that was random. They had to switch it around and Caitlyn was in one group and Osama was in another group. From both groups, one person gets moved on immediately, then you got four people left. And two more go forward from that four. In my mind, Osama and Caitlyn are going, duh.

• 37:46Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 37:46Speaker 02

  Like, they already killed it and they're the fan favorites. I just gotta try to get in to be one of the other two out of the four left. It's a lot, it's a lot of explaining to say. When they called my name during the semifinals instead of Caitlyn.

• 38:03Speaker 02

  That's when I knew like, oh, this, this might have something to do with these sets right now. Nothing else matters.

• 38:10Tom Segura?

  Right.

• 38:11Speaker 02

  So if I have the best, anybody can have the best set, you know, that night, if, you know, it's anybody's game. If I can have the best set during the finals, I could win. So when they called both of us up, I'm like, I know it's possible, but Osama's got people chanting for him.

• 38:30Tom Segura?

  Chanting.

• 38:30Speaker 02

  Like before he went up.

• 38:32Tom Segura?

  Yes.

• 38:33Speaker 02

  After he went up.

• 38:33Tom Segura?

  Oh, yeah.

• 38:34Speaker 02

  And during the voting.

• 38:36Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 38:36Speaker 02

  They're chanting.

• 38:37Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 38:37Speaker 02

  The only name I hear is Osama. Why would I think they're gonna say Ron? I already made it this far. This is crazy. I should have been eliminated after I forgot my jokes.

• 38:46Tom Segura?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 38:47Speaker 02

  So when they said, when they said Ron, I, I hadn't, I hadn't really thought about winning at that point.

• 38:53Tom Segura?

  Right.

• 38:54Speaker 02

  I knew it was possible, but it never entered my brain what to think. I would have like prepared some cool moment or something. I was just like, what the fuck is going on?

• 39:03Tom Segura?

  One of the things that also stood out to me about, especially watching on that finale, was I realized, oh, I'd never seen like at least a big type of competition where it wasn't like clean comedy.

• 39:16Speaker 02

  And yeah, we were talking about that.

• 39:18Tom Segura?

  That was like such a, a cool thing. I was like, oh, that's part of why I'm enjoying this so much is that they're just doing the sets they would. This is like club comedy, you know?

• 39:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah. Afterwards, there's a lot of things that we all realize afterwards, like, oh, yeah, when, like, I don't think there's ever been voting immediately.

• 39:37Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 39:37Speaker 02

  From viewers.

• 39:38Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 39:39Speaker 02

  Like, I've never seen a competition where people were saying the stuff we're saying, like.

• 39:44Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 39:44Speaker 02

  I, I did a, I did a dick joke.

• 39:47Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 39:48Speaker 02

  Like extensively, just yelling about my dick.

• 39:51Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 39:51Speaker 02

  In a competition while wearing a suit dressed like Richard Pryor.

• 39:55Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 39:55Speaker 02

  I've never seen this before.

• 39:56Tom Segura?

  No.

• 39:57Speaker 02

  So it was a, it wa, it, it, it was intense. Like, was my heart racing? Uh, no, not when they called my name, but as it. Continue like Kevin Hart's like, what the fuck? He's running around.

• 40:12Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 40:12Speaker 02

  I get the comics from like LA, they're standing up, pointing. I'm seeing people crying. I hear Kevin's voice start to wiggling. I didn't even really know there was like rafters.

• 40:23Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 40:23Speaker 02

  They're all standing up. I'm like, now it's like building up. I'm like, yo, what?

• 40:28Tom Segura?

  It's fucking cool.

• 40:28Speaker 02

  I didn't know this was this big. What is going on?

• 40:30Tom Segura?

  Yeah, yeah. Congratulations, man.

• 40:32Speaker 02

  I appreciate it.

• 40:33Tom Segura?

  It's really, it was really cool to be there and watch that.

• 40:37Speaker 02

  And it's fun.

• 40:38Tom Segura?

  Do you have a plan now? Like, is there a plan for how you want to approach? You know, I mean, obviously it involves touring, but do you have it like a strategic plan for how do you want to do it?

• 40:48Speaker 02

  You know, I've had representation for about 10 years now.

• 40:52Tom Segura?

  Mm hmm.

• 40:52Speaker 02

  And you know how that is. They, they, they make money.

• 40:55Tom Segura?

  Mm hmm.

• 40:56Speaker 02

  From, with, off you.

• 40:58Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 40:59Speaker 02

  I've, I've been.

• 41:03Speaker 02

  I've been less than helpful at different points throughout the years, right?

• 41:07Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 41:09Speaker 02

  But now it's like, like, you know, I feel like today with management or even agency. Versus, I don't know, when Michael Jackson was coming up or Elvis, you know, managers had a different job. Maybe they created something or whatever, but now it's like, hey, just. Make content, get famous and we'll manage that.

• 41:30Tom Segura?

  Mm hmm.

• 41:30Speaker 02

  Which is like, well, I mean, then it's just hard to do, right? So I've never really managed. I mean, I've never really created a bunch of content and stuff like that. So there was nothing for them to manage. Now there is something for them to manage, like. There's dates, like there's a special to do, like, so the plan of attack.

• 41:54Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 41:54Speaker 02

  Is being created, whereas before I was just doing stand up.

• 41:58Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 41:59Speaker 02

  Right? So like, I've gotten what I want to do. I got my desires and stuff.

• 42:03Tom Segura?

  Well, your focus should stay that way. You shouldn't be, I mean, in my opinion, don't become a content creator guy. You should, you're so good at stand up. Keep focus on that.

• 42:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah. I mean, I appreciate it and I don't want to be that guy, you know, wagging my finger and whatnot, but. The space to create content leisurely is what I would like to do. And if I were to, you know.

• 42:28Speaker 02

  Kind of ramp up the production of leisurely creating content, great. But creating content like a crackhead, like I'd never wanted to do that.

• 42:38Tom Segura?

  No, and you know what's funny about, uh, production content? I find that like, I've discovered sometimes you can put like real production into something. And you're surprised that, like, online, I'm saying.

• 42:53Tom Segura?

  People don't always respond to it as much as, um, like just holding your phone and like, yeah, saying some shit about like whatever you had for breakfast. Well, you, as long as you make it like, uh, you know, deliberate, engaging and funny and like you yourself. Sometimes like just talking to the phone is what people like, you'll see the engagement be like 20 times higher.

• 43:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, I've seen that somewhat this week, you know, cause of kind of like when we were trying to win the competition. There was kind of a campaigning, you know, you had to say, hey, guys, vote for me.

• 43:25Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 43:25Speaker 02

  Even my last day in LA doing the festival, I, you know, I had to like announce some upcoming tour dates. And like that video alone, like kind of went crazy as opposed to me doing some funny bit and doing editing and stuff like that, so.

• 43:40Tom Segura?

  Well, look, here's some content this guy did. This is lo-fi, but it's cool.

• 43:46Tom Segura?

  Right? If you could do something like this and he could just sit like that.

• 43:49Speaker 02

  This, I can't imagine this ending well. Please don't tell me he hurts himself.

• 43:55Tom Segura?

  I think he's just showing off.

• 43:59Speaker 02

  I'm scared for this.

• 44:04Speaker 02

  Just tell me, is he gonna hurt himself?

• 44:05Tom Segura?

  I don't think so.

• 44:06Speaker 02

  Okay, alright.

• 44:07Tom Segura?

  But he's balancing with a, like a tree in his asshole, yeah.

• 44:13Tom Segura?

  I mean, it takes tremendous core strength.

• 44:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, but what do you, why are you practicing that?

• 44:18Tom Segura?

  I mean, he's clearly practiced a lot.

• 44:21Speaker 02

  What is to be gained from that, man? And this will have a million views.

• 44:26Tom Segura?

  Absolutely. Can you imagine you announcing your dates like that?

• 44:31Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yeah, I mean, Drewski, he could do something like that.

• 44:36Tom Segura?

  Oh, yeah.

• 44:37Speaker 02

  Create that video.

• 44:38Tom Segura?

  God, those keep getting better.

• 44:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, and that, that, that is, that, that's a skill.

• 44:44Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 44:44Speaker 02

  And I think, and tell me what you think, I think there's a, cause at this point, now he's doing production, right?

• 44:52Tom Segura?

  Yes, now that it's evolved, yes.

• 44:54Speaker 02

  Before, it was just doing something, whether it was funny or not.

• 44:58Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 44:59Speaker 02

  But I think there's a skill, or maybe it's just a lack of fear in being able to just make something, just have it exist. I guess from me crafting jokes, I, I feel weird like just making something.

• 45:16Tom Segura?

  I get, I get what you're saying, a hundred percent.

• 45:18Speaker 02

  It's like, I want to at least have it decent enough to where I'm like, this is good, not simply this exists, but it's like this volume, like, approach to things that I've never wanted to do. Now Drewski is in the place where it seems like it's all quality and, you know, you know, volume.

• 45:41Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 45:42Speaker 02

  But to go past that moment or that timeframe of where you're just throwing shit out, I don't want that to exist.

• 45:48Tom Segura?

  But see, in, if I were analyzing like what you're talking about and, and say it in regard to Drewski, one thing that you notice, like that I've noticed is that he's not just daily going, here's some shit, here's some shit, here's some shit.

• 46:04Speaker 02

  Right.

• 46:04Tom Segura?

  These releases are quality, he's put time into like, whatever the, the, the bit that he's gonna do, the actual execution, and then the edit itself. Everything does have real thoughtfulness, and then when it comes out, it beca, it's like an event to watch these things. So he's not, but he's not just overdoing it, you know?

• 46:28Speaker 02

  Now, he's not.

• 46:29Tom Segura?

  Right.

• 46:30Speaker 02

  And that's the thing, it's like, he took the time to.

• 46:35Speaker 02

  To just throw shit at the wall.

• 46:36Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 46:37Speaker 02

  Like because it be to to gain a following.

• 46:39Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 46:39Speaker 02

  It would it would be like, you know, black girls drink coffee like this.

• 46:43Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 46:43Speaker 02

  Didn't matter how much thought it was was beyond like that surface level.

• 46:47Tom Segura?

  Mm hmm.

• 46:48Speaker 02

  And I think there's a a a skill in being able to just just put stuff up and just.

• 46:55Tom Segura?

  A fearlessness too.

• 46:56Speaker 02

  Fearlessness, just like, and it's hard to do that for me, man. I I'll look at a video like, this isn't perfect.

• 47:02Tom Segura?

  Oh, I see. Yeah, yeah.

• 47:04Speaker 02

  Why did, why would I even put this out when I should be thinking about the next one?

• 47:07Tom Segura?

  You probably should, yeah. But you have to, it, there's a balance, what you're saying. You should maintain like some of your standards, right? Like where you go, yeah, um, I'm not just gonna put out any bullshit that I think of or whatever.

• 47:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 47:22Tom Segura?

  But you can't get to the point of like, it's not perfect, so therefore nothing goes out. It's a balance.

• 47:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 47:29Tom Segura?

  But what he's done is incredible now.

• 47:31Speaker 02

  Now, I mean, he's like a studio at this point.

• 47:33Tom Segura?

  I know, and I always think about too, like, you know, like Endgame, like people always think most of the Endgame.

• 47:39Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 47:39Tom Segura?

  And I'm like, I feel like what he's doing is an endgame.

• 47:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 47:44Tom Segura?

  I don't, like, there's nobody doing it better than him at what he's doing.

• 47:49Speaker 02

  This last one I saw when he, you know, was talking about British actors.

• 47:53Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 47:53Speaker 02

  I was like, this is, do a movie.

• 47:56Tom Segura?

  It's so funny.

• 47:57Speaker 02

  Just do a movie, brother.

• 47:59Tom Segura?

  So funny. I know, he, you know what he kind of, like, you even saying it now, do a movie. I'm like, oh, this is the kind of the closest thing we've had to Sasha with like Borat and Ali G in years.

• 48:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 48:13Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 48:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 48:14Tom Segura?

  It's really fucking funny though, man.

• 48:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, and uh, I, yeah, I'm not big into politics for reasons, but when he did that Eric.

• 48:23Tom Segura?

  Oh, yeah.

• 48:24Speaker 02

  When he did that Eric.

• 48:25Tom Segura?

  Oh, yeah.

• 48:26Speaker 02

  Just seeing people that mad, man.

• 48:28Tom Segura?

  It was so great. It was so great to see people so mad.

• 48:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, what a, what a, what a, a person. I don't wanna call.

• 48:39Speaker 02

  I don't wanna call it unattractive, but Jesus, man.

• 48:43Tom Segura?

  That bit was great, man. He keep, he, he's killing it, dude.

• 48:46Speaker 02

  Is it, is that offensive to white people? Is that considered white face?

• 48:50Tom Segura?

  Well, a lot of people that are like very far right, I think, postured as if it were offensive. I think if you took, if you go like the majority of white people, there's no way they were like offended by it.

• 49:06Speaker 02

  Is white face a thing to you?

• 49:08Tom Segura?

  No.

• 49:09Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 49:10Tom Segura?

  No.

• 49:11Speaker 02

  You know what I think? And I, I, I don't wanna get canceled by the black community.

• 49:14Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 49:15Speaker 02

  For this take. I think blackface is blackface. White people playing black people is not blackface.

• 49:25Tom Segura?

  Right.

• 49:25Speaker 02

  Like what Robert Downey Jr. did is not blackface, obviously. And people like it.

• 49:31Tom Segura?

  Well, you're getting into like the nuances of like the term.

• 49:34Speaker 02

  I am.

• 49:34Tom Segura?

  Yeah. And like what it means.

• 49:36Speaker 02

  I am, but, right. So this or anybody else.

• 49:41Tom Segura?

  Shit, he's got like Ron Taylor hair.

• 49:45Speaker 02

  Or even if, what was the, the Paul brother? Was it Logan or Jake Paul that said they were gonna dress up like Druski?

• 49:52Tom Segura?

  Uh huh.

• 49:52Speaker 02

  One of the Paul brothers.

• 49:53Tom Segura?

  Yeah, you're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 49:54Speaker 02

  If they put on makeup to make themselves look like Druski.

• 49:58Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 49:59Speaker 02

  That is not blackface to me.

• 50:01Tom Segura?

  It's, it's different because like for, to understand, I think, you have to understand what blackface, the origins of it were. And what, that it's, it's part of, of the way that blackface evolved was doing it in this kind of careless, um, ridiculous manner. Like, one of the things you're seeing with, with, uh, Robert Downey Jr. here is that this isn't like just thrown together, like where they would literally take like shoe polish and be like, I'm black.

• 50:31Speaker 02

  That is blackface.

• 50:32Tom Segura?

  Right.

• 50:32Speaker 02

  And that's the only distinction that I make. Now, if somebody. Did what Dave Chappelle did, like in the last season of Chappelle's Show? When he was like, he was a-

• 50:43Tom Segura?

  I'm a white guy now.

• 50:44Speaker 02

  No, no, he was, it was like the one that he, the, the season where he wasn't doing, uh, it was just Charlie and-

• 50:50Tom Segura?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 50:51Speaker 02

  There was an episode where he was playing a pixie in blackface. That shit is blackface. Now, if you did that, if Jake Paul did that, that, I can imagine how one would get offensive or get offended. But if somebody made themselves to, to truly look like a black person-

• 51:08Tom Segura?

  Like, like he does there?

• 51:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 51:10Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 51:10Speaker 02

  Then it's like, even if they do that and they say something racist, okay, sure, you are racist, but to me, you didn't do blackface. And the only reason I make that distinction is because if that's blackface, what do you call the shoe polish and white lips?

• 51:24Tom Segura?

  Right.

• 51:25Speaker 02

  That is something that I-

• 51:27Tom Segura?

  So essentially, you're saying like, I think part of what you're saying is that if the effort is made to make it like believable, like if it's high level makeup and there's an attempt to, uh, to actually look like a black person, like, like in this image here, right? Like he's-

• 51:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 51:44Tom Segura?

  This isn't like, uh, shoe polish and white lips, like you're saying. This is like a high level makeup artist doing something.

• 51:52Speaker 02

  I'm saying, I'm going a little deeper than that. I'm saying this, we can call it whatever and you can still be offended.

• 52:00Tom Segura?

  Uh huh.

• 52:01Speaker 02

  Beat him up. I don't care.

• 52:02Tom Segura?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 52:03Speaker 02

  But this is blackface.

• 52:04Tom Segura?

  Right.

• 52:05Speaker 02

  I, if you want to be offended at both, fine. That's blackface. This is some different shit.

• 52:10Tom Segura?

  Do you remember when we had, um, Ari and he was talking about in Estonia? Can you pull that up? Where like in, he said like in their singing competition shows or like whatever, their variety shows?

• 52:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 52:22Tom Segura?

  They'll just have someone be like, I'm James Brown. And like, they'll do that. And he'll perform like, uh, I don't know if you could see that guy. Can you make that bigger?

• 52:34Tom Segura?

  Like that.

• 52:35Speaker 02

  Jesus, that's horrible.

• 52:36Tom Segura?

  Yeah, that he's like, I'm James Brown.

• 52:38Speaker 02

  I mean.

• 52:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, now.

• 52:42Tom Segura?

  See, but see, like, that's so poorly.

• 52:43Speaker 02

  It's poorly done.

• 52:44Tom Segura?

  Right.

• 52:45Speaker 02

  But he's trying to be a black person. Maybe we should call that brown face.

• 52:48Tom Segura?

  Brown face, yeah.

• 52:49Speaker 02

  You know, that, tha- tha- that's horrible, but no, that's not blackface to me.

• 52:54Tom Segura?

  That's not blackface to you because what? It's not?

• 52:56Speaker 02

  Cause it's not black.

• 52:58Tom Segura?

  I, I got it.

• 52:58Speaker 02

  It's like, blackface was the red lips, white gloves.

• 53:03Tom Segura?

  Minstrel shows.

• 53:04Speaker 02

  Minstrel, that's blackface.

• 53:06Tom Segura?

  Yes.

• 53:06Speaker 02

  You do that, we got a problem. You do this, perhaps you're being insensitive. Maybe you're making fun of black people. Maybe you are a racist.

• 53:14Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 53:15Speaker 02

  But that minstrel show shit is, is wild. There are toys and figurines.

• 53:20Tom Segura?

  From that time, right?

• 53:21Speaker 02

  Of blackface.

• 53:22Tom Segura?

  Yes.

• 53:22Speaker 02

  Bamboozled, a movie by Spike Lee. That shit was blackface.

• 53:26Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 53:27Speaker 02

  What Drake did, that was blackface. That is just, that's just something that.

• 53:34Tom Segura?

  That's just Italian.

• 53:35Speaker 02

  Yeah. That's just what it is.

• 53:37Tom Segura?

  Yeah. It's a guy from Sicily, man. What are you doing? That's crazy, though. That's crazy. He's like, get on up. With that makeup on, it's insane. It's fucking insane.

• 53:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's horrible. How much would it, how much would, would it take to get you in blackface?

• 53:54Tom Segura?

  In real blackface? I mean, enough where I didn't have to ever work again.

• 54:01Tom Segura?

  A pretty substantial amount. Yeah. Enough where I could hide and everything and have a security detail. It'd be a lot. It'd be a lot, man. But I feel like doing what Robert Downey did, like, in my opinion. Like, I'm not, I'm not black, so I can't, but I go like, oh, that's, that's doing, like, fully committing to a character.

• 54:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 54:27Tom Segura?

  I didn't, I never interpreted it as like he's doing, I know it's like. Even in the movie, they're like, what are you doing? You know, he's like, I'm the character right now.

• 54:35Speaker 02

  Have you ever seen like the deleted scenes?

• 54:38Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 54:38Speaker 02

  Of of him in that character?

• 54:40Tom Segura?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 54:41Speaker 02

  It's it's so skillful.

• 54:44Tom Segura?

  Mm hmm.

• 54:44Speaker 02

  So masterful that like, I mean, obviously, there's people who wouldn't even know that's not a black dude.

• 54:51Tom Segura?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 54:52Speaker 02

  Like, so and still, he could be a dirty fucking racist for all I know. But that by itself, I don't think Robert Downey is. But that by itself is like, that's just, it's just imitation. He just happens to be good.

• 55:05Tom Segura?

  He's happy to be good at it, yeah. I mean, that's the whole thing about when you do any, whether it's black, um, uh, Asian, Latin. If you're not one of these things and you do them, you do the voice or you're you're doing an impression. The more skillful you are at it, where like that group goes, damn, that's good. The less it's perceived as you being offensive and the more it's viewed as being skilled and accurate. The more accurate you are, the more it's celebrated.

• 55:37Speaker 02

  You know what? I think we could relate this to like, trans, trans people.

• 55:45Tom Segura?

  Mm hmm.

• 55:46Speaker 02

  The more you pass, the, I, trans women are women.

• 55:50Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 55:51Speaker 02

  Blackface people, if they, if they pass enough, you know what? Fuck it, you're black.

• 55:56Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 55:57Speaker 02

  Now you're, you're, blackface people are blackface, trans women are women. There it is. I'm very progressive now.

• 56:04Tom Segura?

  There you are, you're super progressive. You wanna see, um, we did a game where we recorded, um, it's called Tom or Black. And I play an audio clip and then you guess if it's me or a black person.

• 56:16Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 56:17Tom Segura?

  You wanna play?

• 56:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 56:19Tom Segura?

  All right.

• 56:19Speaker 02

  I don't see how I would not immediately know that if it's you or a black person.

• 56:24Tom Segura?

  That's the right mentality.

• 56:25Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 56:26Tom Segura?

  Okay, you keep score. Okay, here we go.

• 56:29Speaker 02

  All right.

• 56:30Tom Segura?

  I'll play it as many times as you want, by the way.

• 56:34Speaker 02

  Okay, play it again.

• 56:37Speaker 02

  You know, I just remembered. One of your albums, the one where you were wearing braids and I think dressed like Michael Jackson.

• 56:43Tom Segura?

  Oh, well, that's like two different albums. There's White Girls with Cornrows and there's Thrilled, yeah.

• 56:48Speaker 02

  Okay, I forgot you could do a very good black guy.

• 56:51Tom Segura?

  That's what I forgot. Why do you think we came up with this game?

• 56:54Speaker 02

  Okay, play it again one more time.

• 56:58Tom Segura?

  So it's either Tom or a black person.

• 57:01Speaker 02

  All right, one more time. Damn.

• 57:06Speaker 02

  I'm gonna go Tom.

• 57:08Tom Segura?

  Okay.

• 57:10Speaker 06

  I left a wallet there.

• 57:11Speaker 02

  No, that's Tom. That's Tom. Sup, Kane? Say it again. Sup, Kane?

• 57:21Speaker 02

  That's, that's Tom.

• 57:25Speaker 02

  That's cricket right there. That's, that's Tom.

• 57:28Tom Segura?

  You writing that down?

• 57:30Speaker 06

  Cry, he came through.

• 57:32Speaker 02

  Play it, do it again.

• 57:34Speaker 06

  Cry, he came through.

• 57:36Speaker 02

  That's gotta be a black guy.

• 57:39Speaker 06

  What's going on here?

• 57:44Speaker 02

  Play it again.

• 57:46Speaker 06

  What's going on here?

• 57:48Speaker 02

  I hope that's not Tom, but I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say a black guy. I hope that's not you.

• 57:57Speaker 02

  Play it again.

• 58:01Speaker 02

  I think that's a black guy. That's sounding like Richard Pryor.

• 58:07Speaker 02

  Play it again.

• 58:10Speaker 02

  That's a lot of bass. That's gotta be a black guy.

• 58:12Tom Segura?

  All right, you did okay.

• 58:13Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 58:15Tom Segura?

  I'll tell you, I was scared for a minute, Josh.

• 58:17Speaker 02

  Yeah?

• 58:18Tom Segura?

  Yeah. So you got...

• 58:22Speaker 02

  So that was Tom.

• 58:23Tom Segura?

  That's me.

• 58:23Speaker 02

  That's you, okay.

• 58:24Speaker 06

  I left a wallet there.

• 58:25Tom Segura?

  That's me.

• 58:26Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 58:28Speaker 02

  That's you.

• 58:29Tom Segura?

  That's me.

• 58:29Speaker 02

  Right? That's cricket right there. That's you.

• 58:32Tom Segura?

  That's me.

• 58:33Speaker 06

  Cry, he came through.

• 58:34Tom Segura?

  You said black guy.

• 58:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 58:35Tom Segura?

  That's me.

• 58:38Speaker 06

  What's going on here?

• 58:40Speaker 02

  What the?

• 58:41Tom Segura?

  That's a black guy.

• 58:42Speaker 02

  Well, is it? Who's that?

• 58:44Tom Segura?

  Right?

• 58:45Speaker 07

  Yeah, I think so.

• 58:46Tom Segura?

  Yeah. That's just a guy from a video. Okay.

• 58:51Tom Segura?

  You said black guy.

• 58:51Speaker 02

  Right.

• 58:52Tom Segura?

  That's me.

• 58:52Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 58:53Tom Segura?

  And then.

• 58:55Tom Segura?

  That's me.

• 58:56Speaker 02

  What the fuck?

• 58:59Tom Segura?

  So you did okay.

• 59:00Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 59:00Tom Segura?

  How many did he get right? Like?

• 59:02Speaker 07

  Five.

• 59:03Tom Segura?

  Five. Okay. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. You got five out of eight.

• 59:06Speaker 02

  You know what?

• 59:07Tom Segura?

  What?

• 59:07Speaker 02

  I don't know if you've done this already or not, but you should do like some voiceover work and play some black characters.

• 59:13Tom Segura?

  Man, that would be a dream come true.

• 59:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 59:15Tom Segura?

  One time we were, um, but you know, that's like very looked down upon.

• 59:20Speaker 02

  Is it?

• 59:20Tom Segura?

  Oh, yeah. Because what happened?

• 59:21Speaker 02

  By who?

• 59:22Tom Segura?

  What the general feeling from like industry is when you, when you do something like that, for any, not just for a black, if you, if you go like, I want to, especially when it's a, a different race, they go, you should, that role should go to somebody of this group. And you're, you're taking the job that could go to, let's say, if you're like, I'm going to do an Asian woman. I'm going to do a, a Latin guy. I'm going to do a black guy. They're like, yeah, or you could just hire somebody who could actually, who is that to do that job?

• 59:55Speaker 02

  I, I, I heard that. And yeah, I get that. But if the creation of the joke.

• 1:00:03Tom Segura?

  Comes from you?

• 1:00:04Speaker 02

  Comes from the fact that this person is doing this job. So then this is a insert person job. This, this character is voiced by a white person. This black character is voiced by a white person. That's the joke. That's why this exists.

• 1:00:19Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:20Speaker 02

  Cause what is that? American Dad? The, I think Chris is the character's name? And he'd be singing all this R and B and it's a, it's a white dude who like be singing R. Kelly. Like, I don't want that to be a black dude.

• 1:00:34Tom Segura?

  Right.

• 1:00:34Speaker 02

  It's less funny. It's funny because it's a white dude singing like a black guy.

• 1:00:39Tom Segura?

  Yeah, exactly. No, I mean, I'm not opposed to it. I always thought it'd be fun to do.

• 1:00:43Speaker 02

  Hey, man, I'll support you.

• 1:00:44Tom Segura?

  Thanks, man.

• 1:00:45Speaker 02

  I like to do it, although I have to be careful about that, you know? I, I just got some notoriety and now there's a lot of my black friends and family and colleagues and coworkers and comedians who are looking at me like, so you, you down with Tony Hinchcliffe?

• 1:01:03Tom Segura?

  Oh.

• 1:01:05Tom Segura?

  Oh, man. Yeah.

• 1:01:06Speaker 02

  I don't want to be.

• 1:01:07Tom Segura?

  How do you answer that one?

• 1:01:09Speaker 02

  I don't really, I just like, man, you tripping. And I, because it's just happened. The roast just happened.

• 1:01:15Tom Segura?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:01:16Speaker 02

  The competition just happened.

• 1:01:17Tom Segura?

  There was, um, I didn't realize, there was a lot of, at least I saw online. I haven't had a lot of personal conversations, but a lot of blowback online about roast jokes and like, it was written by white writers and they're, they're, these things are racist. I, I didn't have, it wasn't on my radar, but scrolling, I saw a whole bunch of stuff about it.

• 1:01:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, and like, I mean, people get mad at whatever they get mad at. Yeah. We, we as humans, we enjoy being angry and having a righteous fury. So I, I get it, but you know, they don't know who wrote each joke.

• 1:01:48Tom Segura?

  I know.

• 1:01:49Speaker 02

  Like David Lucas was on there, Jaron Horton was on there. Which jokes did they come up with?

• 1:01:54Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:54Speaker 02

  They don't know.

• 1:01:55Tom Segura?

  They don't know.

• 1:01:55Speaker 02

  I don't know, and I know these people.

• 1:01:57Tom Segura?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:01:57Speaker 02

  But

• 1:02:01Speaker 02

  I, and I was at the roast.

• 1:02:03Tom Segura?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:02:04Speaker 02

  This stuff was racist, of course, and all that stuff, but that kind of was the name of the game. So I don't, I've never understood the, the idea of like, you know, these people are anything because of their jokes. Even sexist, racist, homophobic, transphobic. Even if that's true, I've never got that, that because they're joking about this.

• 1:02:30Tom Segura?

  That's what they are.

• 1:02:31Speaker 02

  This is what they are.

• 1:02:32Tom Segura?

  I feel the same way. I also feel like, look, I'm not a roast expert, but what I do know about roasts is if you've, if you've been around them, if you go to them, you, the, even like the best roast writers will tell you that you go always to first thought and what is obvious. Like if, like, if you are roasting a black guy, you're gonna have black jokes. If you're roasting a fat guy, you're gonna have fat jokes. You're gonna have, if he's gay, you're gonna, like, that's the name of the game. That's how, that's, that's literally how it's played. So I, I'm not saying that like, something can't be overboard or overdone or thoughtless, like, it can.

• 1:03:14Tom Segura?

  But these jokes are going to be a part of, of, of who you're roasting. What, what is it about them?

• 1:03:20Speaker 02

  And if you're famous.

• 1:03:21Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:22Speaker 02

  Like the dais was. You kind of gotta do your thing somewhat too. So Tony, in order to be Tony Hinchcliffe.

• 1:03:30Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:31Speaker 02

  Has to give you some Tony Hinchcliffeisms.

• 1:03:34Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:34Speaker 02

  And I think that's where that George Floyd joke came from. Like, it, put it this, there are some jokes that I heard, and this is how I, this is how I know we just like to be angry at different things. There's some jokes that I heard, and I was there.

• 1:03:48Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:49Speaker 02

  That I just laughed at or winced at and thought nothing about.

• 1:03:52Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:52Speaker 02

  Then I go online and I hear people repeating these jokes or saying like, how could he say something like that? And I am like, yeah, I could fuck him, how could he say? But it's like, you weren't there.

• 1:04:04Tom Segura?

  Right, right. It's different in the room.

• 1:04:05Speaker 02

  I'm telling you, if you were there, you wouldn't be, you would not feel that. Your brain is not registering these jokes like that. And if your brain isn't, the person who said it isn't like, you know, it's just, it's just different. I, I, I think the George Floyd thing was it. So when we did the roast in our competition. I was thinking about stuff like that. And before it was the roast of Marshawn Lynch. It was the roast of Kevin Hart. But then Kevin Hart was having an actual roast. So they made the competition roast Marshawn Lynch. But while I was thinking about Kevin Hart, I was thinking about like, cause I'm not a roaster. So I had to watch roasts and see like what people were doing. And it, people were talking about death and everything.

• 1:04:50Speaker 02

  So I'm thinking about stuff like that to write for Kevin. I didn't do it because I'm like, I don't want to drag dead people into it.

• 1:04:55Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:56Speaker 02

  But if it worked, then you pop like Nikki Glaser, then, then what? You don't know, it's a fucking joke.

• 1:05:03Tom Segura?

  Yeah, I totally agree. Um, I gotta take a quick piss break, dude.

• 1:05:07Speaker 02

  Hey, man.

• 1:05:07Tom Segura?

  And we'll be, I'll be right back. I want to ask you, do you, I'm just curious, from your perspective, do you notice, do you feel, as somebody who worked the store? And here, mothership, doing sets, do you notice any, like, is there a notable difference for you? Like, do you?

• 1:05:24Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:05:25Tom Segura?

  What do you, what do you pick up on? Just curious.

• 1:05:30Speaker 02

  The sto, not the store, the mothership.

• 1:05:33Speaker 02

  Is, and it's not a bad thing necessarily, this is just a thing. It's like a homogenized audience and crowd. They're, they're essentially one organism of, I feel like that about Austin comedy as a whole, to tell you the truth. It's one type of audience. Now, what that type of audience is, that's, you know, one can decide. But in LA, I feel like it's a different type of audience that all kind of share a mentality. And that mentality may be, I don't know, progressiveness or whatever, but there's different type of people.

• 1:06:18Speaker 02

  Out here, it's like a cult of, I mean, to be completely, completely honest, it's like a cult of the Rogan sphere. And Kill Tony, which is, you know, part of the Rogan sphere, which is great. But it's almost like some of these people aren't necessarily coming to see comedy. They don't mind comedy, they might even enjoy comedy, but they came to be a part of the fucking shit.

• 1:06:45Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:46Speaker 02

  And they're excited and they're appreciative and they're like, yes, let's eat elk.

• 1:06:52Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:52Speaker 02

  Let's fuck in, let me see some wild shit.

• 1:06:55Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:56Speaker 02

  And it's great. I mean, I'm still here.

• 1:06:58Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:59Speaker 02

  I enjoy it and you need those different, you know, sectors of comedy and, you know, you, you're gonna, you're gonna have that. But, I mean, Austin is just smaller.

• 1:07:10Tom Segura?

  Yeah, it is.

• 1:07:11Speaker 02

  We're talking about LA, we're talking about a scene that's existed, what, since, since stand-up or whatever, you know, so it's not even comparable. Like, the fact that you can have a scene of this quality this fast is amazing in itself. So, yeah, it'll take a while for, you know, something to branch off in Austin as big as JRE and Kill Tony, but in a completely different, you know, sphere. There's no black shows out here.

• 1:07:40Tom Segura?

  Right.

• 1:07:40Speaker 02

  You know, so that's a whole sector.

• 1:07:42Tom Segura?

  Other thing, yeah.

• 1:07:43Speaker 02

  I don't know where the gay shows are, they might be out here, but, yeah, so it's, it's one type of crowd out here, it seems like. And I could be wrong, but it seems like that, but, no, it's, it's. Yeah, it's definitely different.

• 1:07:56Tom Segura?

  Yeah, yeah. I want to show you before we wrap up a couple. These we call horrible or hilarious. And we just show you videos.

• 1:08:05Speaker 02

  Are people gonna get hurt?

• 1:08:06Tom Segura?

  I don't know. I haven't seen them.

• 1:08:07Speaker 02

  Cause I, you know, I've. I've had a parasocial relationship with you, obviously, for years.

• 1:08:12Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:12Speaker 02

  And I am aware that pain is funny to you.

• 1:08:16Tom Segura?

  No.

• 1:08:19Speaker 02

  Not to me.

• 1:08:19Tom Segura?

  Okay, I'll tell you how this is done every day.

• 1:08:21Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:08:22Tom Segura?

  They put a folder together. I have not seen them. And we watch the videos and we actually genuinely react to whether it's funny or not.

• 1:08:31Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:08:32Tom Segura?

  So I don't know what I'm gonna see. So I can't even tell you. I can't tell you if someone's gonna get hurt.

• 1:08:36Speaker 02

  Okay, beautiful.

• 1:08:36Tom Segura?

  Okay.

• 1:08:42Tom Segura?

  Okay, he got hurt.

• 1:08:43Speaker 02

  I didn't even see him.

• 1:08:45Tom Segura?

  This guy at the bottom right, the tire just rolled off the highway and he was like having lunch or something. That tire.

• 1:08:53Speaker 02

  Jesus Christ.

• 1:08:56Tom Segura?

  Locked him. I will say this, you laughed. You laughed.

• 1:09:01Speaker 02

  Cause I didn't see the person at first.

• 1:09:05Speaker 02

  I thought it just hit something and the guy standing was like, oh.

• 1:09:08Tom Segura?

  But you know what? This is the kind of video where you don't see like a leg break, you know?

• 1:09:14Speaker 02

  At least it's grainy.

• 1:09:15Tom Segura?

  Yeah, it's like, it's grainy and I think he might have a concussion.

• 1:09:22Speaker 02

  I don't know, man. Those tires move, brother.

• 1:09:25Tom Segura?

  Yeah, those were really hauling.

• 1:09:26Speaker 02

  Jesus Christ.

• 1:09:28Tom Segura?

  I was trying to be optimistic. He might be dead. Okay, here's, um, is he? Did he die?

• 1:09:34Speaker 02

  Don't tell me. I don't wanna know, man. I hope all these people are alive.

• 1:09:39Tom Segura?

  All right. Next one. Let's see, I'll tell you if I find something better. Oh, okay, this might be good. Here we go. Here we go. Where is it? Oh, that's bad.

• 1:09:58Tom Segura?

  You shouldn't do that.

• 1:09:59Speaker 02

  What the fuck?

• 1:10:00Tom Segura?

  That was a bad idea.

• 1:10:02Speaker 02

  Why does he have an opossum? In a bag? Trying to kiss it?

• 1:10:09Tom Segura?

  Cause he was, he was trying to show off. That's why, this is what happened. He got that, it was probably, you know, somebody called him.

• 1:10:16Speaker 02

  Bit his fucking lip off.

• 1:10:18Tom Segura?

  And then he had to go get a rabies shot. Yeah. Yep.

• 1:10:21Speaker 02

  Oh, God.

• 1:10:23Tom Segura?

  Don't show off. Especially with wild animals.

• 1:10:26Speaker 02

  Why are all these brown colored people doing this ridiculousness? Show me some white people doing some ridiculousness. They supposed to know better, man. You don't handle no damn possum in a bag.

• 1:10:39Tom Segura?

  Uh, funny to you or not funny?

• 1:10:44Speaker 02

  Not funny.

• 1:10:45Tom Segura?

  Not funny. Okay. Rabies is a horrible way to die.

• 1:10:49Tom Segura?

  Thailand.

• 1:10:50Speaker 01

  Hold that motherfucker real quick.

• 1:10:56Speaker 01

  Let's go.

• 1:11:01Tom Segura?

  Oh shit. He said, let's go.

• 1:11:08Tom Segura?

  Ron liked that one. It's official.

• 1:11:11Speaker 02

  Cause it did, it, it looked like it hurt, but he got up immediately.

• 1:11:14Tom Segura?

  See, once you see someone recover, you can enjoy it more.

• 1:11:17Speaker 02

  And it's like, the more show off-y you are.

• 1:11:21Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:21Speaker 02

  It's like.

• 1:11:22Tom Segura?

  More earned.

• 1:11:23Speaker 02

  It's like, what, what do you even, this is, there's no part of this that is safe.

• 1:11:27Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:28Speaker 02

  At least with the possum, it's like, maybe you were trying to show the possum love and you're just stupid.

• 1:11:34Tom Segura?

  Uh huh.

• 1:11:35Speaker 02

  That is just complete.

• 1:11:37Tom Segura?

  Befoonery. Yeah.

• 1:11:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:11:39Tom Segura?

  And here's the, um, he was not okay. He, um.

• 1:11:43Speaker 02

  What?

• 1:11:45Speaker 02

  What?

• 1:11:46Tom Segura?

  Well, he had to go just, I think, seek some medical attention. He didn't die or anything.

• 1:11:50Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 1:11:50Tom Segura?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:11:51Speaker 02

  Oh, God.

• 1:11:51Tom Segura?

  Let's watch it again. Cause, um, this is in Thailand. They're all having fun.

• 1:11:58Tom Segura?

  Hold that motherfucker real quick. Well, these are some chocolate white guys. Let's go.

• 1:12:05Speaker 02

  Jesus.

• 1:12:09Tom Segura?

  He landed on his face.

• 1:12:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:12:14Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:14Speaker 02

  Probably broke a tooth or three.

• 1:12:16Tom Segura?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:12:18Speaker 02

  Fuck me, man.

• 1:12:19Tom Segura?

  One more. Here we go. This one, I have no idea.

• 1:12:26Speaker 02

  This is so dangerous. Please don't stab yourself.

• 1:12:28Tom Segura?

  This guy is stabbing a tire.

• 1:12:29Speaker 02

  Stop it.

• 1:12:30Tom Segura?

  Like a truck.

• 1:12:40Tom Segura?

  I saw the extended version of this. He actually, he gets up. Yeah.

• 1:12:45Speaker 02

  Now, this is fucked up. You know what makes that funny?

• 1:12:49Tom Segura?

  What?

• 1:12:51Speaker 02

  And all that African shit they were saying. I don't know what they were saying, but it's just.

• 1:13:03Tom Segura?

  It sounded like a warning.

• 1:13:08Tom Segura?

  That's a lot of pressure, man.

• 1:13:10Speaker 02

  You saw his feet to the side, both feet in the air.

• 1:13:14Tom Segura?

  Yep.

• 1:13:14Speaker 02

  Angle.

• 1:13:15Tom Segura?

  He walked away from that. I should say he crawled, but he, um, he left the scene. He was not there.

• 1:13:22Speaker 02

  What was he trying to do?

• 1:13:23Tom Segura?

  I think this is a, um, it feels like it's a, a protest of sorts against either this company or like this, you know what I mean? Like.

• 1:13:33Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:13:34Tom Segura?

  Like fuck these guys.

• 1:13:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, it looks all war torn now that you said, oh, I take it back. That's not funny.

• 1:13:43Tom Segura?

  He already laughed. He liked it. He liked it.

• 1:13:47Speaker 02

  Damn.

• 1:13:47Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:48Speaker 02

  Why they do all that in sandals? I don't get that.

• 1:13:50Tom Segura?

  I don't, man, sandals everywhere, man.

• 1:13:52Speaker 02

  You had no Jordans, no Timberlands. Let's send some Timberlands to Africa.

• 1:13:59Tom Segura?

  That could be like, um, your charity that you start.

• 1:14:03Speaker 02

  Timberlands to, and who else be using sandals working on cars? Indians.

• 1:14:07Tom Segura?

  Yeah. Yep.

• 1:14:09Speaker 02

  We need boots in India and Africa. That, that's, that's how we, we gonna advance as, as a, as a world.

• 1:14:16Tom Segura?

  This will be Ron's like version of Meals on Wheels.

• 1:14:21Tom Segura?

  Tim's to the motherland.

• 1:14:24Tom Segura?

  Well, look dude, this was a, I'm, I'm so happy for you.

• 1:14:27Speaker 02

  Good brother.

• 1:14:28Tom Segura?

  Congratulations. You deserve it. You earned it. You're ready for it. I'm so excited to see what you do with your special, but I hope you, I hope you savor the moments, like everything you're going through now. It's, it's so cool to see. And you, you were amazing on that stage, man. It was really awesome.

• 1:14:46Speaker 02

  Man, I appreciate it. Good brother. I thank you. I want to thank all the people that was in the show, period, you know?

• 1:14:53Tom Segura?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:54Speaker 02

  The, the top four, Reg, Kaitlyn, Usama, who were killing it. My buddy Steve Fury was in the top 10, Felicia Fokes, everybody. Obviously, I can't name everybody, but those were Comedy Store people. So that was a fun time, man. And I'm glad that you were a part of it.

• 1:15:09Tom Segura?

  I, I was thrilled to be there. And there's dates, there, you can, you can see them. Go to at comedian Ron T. I can see that from this drops, you'll be at Liberty Live in Huntsville, Alabama. You'll be at Zany's in Chicago, the Improv in Tempe, the Funny Bone in Albany. So you're, you're out there, you're working, man. It's gonna be, it's gonna be a different experience for you now. It's gonna be pretty fucking cool.

• 1:15:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, you know, to have the people come to me, that'll be interesting.

• 1:15:36Tom Segura?

  Yeah, I think you're gonna have a lot of fun with it, man. Well, congratulations and thank you guys for watching. Thanks for listening. We'll see you next week.

• 1:15:44Speaker 02

  Peace.

• 1:16:35Speaker 05

  Christina thinks Tom's a psycho, but who really knows? Brad was for damn sure, he's the Hydra Master! Keep those jeans high and tight! Keep those jeans high and tight! Keep those jeans high and tight! Keep those jeans high and tight! Keep those jeans high and... So fucking tight!

• 1:17:24Speaker 05

  Welcome to the 10th Hunger Games!

• 1:17:26Speaker 01

  Witness the beginning of the revolution. Hey Mitch, you can try and take down these games from the start. Filmed for IMAX. Make them remember you. The Hunger Games: Sunrise on the Reaping, November 20th, made in PG-13.