The Snack: Phillies Karen, VMAs, and Unknown Number

Welcome back to The Snack – a lighter serving of Girls Gotta Eat. This week, we're talking about: Spit-Gate at the Eagles vs. Cowboys game Phillies Karen Man getting stuck on the American flag VMA highlights (Mariah, Gaga, Sabrina, etc.) The insane Unknown Number documentary Headlines: Luigi x Shein, Tr*mp's bday card to Epst*in, new hot celeb couples Follow us on Instagram @girlsgottaeatpodcast, Ashley @ashhess, and Rayna @rayna.greenberg. Visit girlsgottaeat.com for more. Thank you to our partners this week: Function Health: Our first 1000 listeners get a $100 credit toward their membership at https://functionhealth.com/GGE or use code GGE100. Saks Fifth Avenue: Head to Saks Fifth Avenue or saks.com for inspiring ways to elevate your personal style. Bilt: Get points by paying rent at https://joinbilt.com/gge. Skims: Get our favorite bras and underwear at https://skims.com/gge. Live Conscious: Get 15% off at https://liveconscious.com with code GGE. Addyi: Learn more at https://addyi.com/. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  This week on the snack, we have a wild sports report, highlights from the VMAs. We are breaking down the documentary Unknown Number, High School Catfish, and more. This is a Dear Media production. Enjoy.

• 0:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Hi, guys.

• 0:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  Hello.

• 0:15Rayna Greenberg?

  Welcome to the middle of your week, the end of your week.

• 0:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Towards the end, second to last day of the week.

• 0:20Rayna Greenberg?

  We got there.

• 0:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  Do you like a week, a four day week that's Monday to Thursday or Tuesday to Friday? Do you like having Monday off or Friday off?

• 0:30Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, I like, I like to front load the week. So Monday, I worked so hard yesterday. I woke up at six in the morning. I worked straight through. I even told you like seven, like I'm done. And then I, I like to front load the week, get a ton done on Monday. I like to record with you on Tuesdays and then I'm trying to just fucking chill.

• 0:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  I hate a Monday off. I feel so behind.

• 0:49Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't want it. What do you, what do you mean, like you and I will, will fly home like in an inconvenient time on a Sunday night, just we're back on Monday.

• 0:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  I always like to be home on a Sunday as early as possible, have the Sunday, get my shit together, start Monday fresh, never work on a Friday.

• 1:04Rayna Greenberg?

  I would never.

• 1:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Do not talk to me.

• 1:06Rayna Greenberg?

  I will do anything to make sure we don't work on Thursdays and Fridays.

• 1:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  I do be working on Fridays, but sometimes you are bothered by it.

• 1:12Rayna Greenberg?

  Only if it's like three p.m. later, or if anyone talks to me at four o'clock on any day of the week or later.

• 1:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. Well, let's talk about our partners, some newbies.

• 1:24Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 1:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  Let me get into it.

• 1:25Rayna Greenberg?

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• 1:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  And thank you to Saks Fifth Avenue. Head to Saks Fifth Avenue or saks.com for inspiring ways to elevate your personal style every day. And Live Conscious, get 15% off at liveconscious.com with code GGE. And Addy, learn more at addyi.com.

• 1:58Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm so excited for our report this week.

• 2:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 2:00Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm so excited.

• 2:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  A sports report. Sports are back.

• 2:05Rayna Greenberg?

  Sports are back. Steelers and the Eagles won this week. I love to see it. We won with our geriatric quarterback, Aaron Rodgers. I'm not calling 41 geriatric, but in quarterback language.

• 2:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's geriatric and sports and in getting married. I am a geriatric bride and I'm proud. It's just like he's a geriatric quarterback.

• 2:25Rayna Greenberg?

  We'll see how it goes.

• 2:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  What, my wedding?

• 2:27Rayna Greenberg?

  No.

• 2:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  The season? I always forget he's the quarterback.

• 2:31Rayna Greenberg?

  No, he's new.

• 2:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, oh, oh, right.

• 2:35Rayna Greenberg?

  He was the Jets quarterback.

• 2:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, God. Yeah, I don't, you know, I just keep up with one team and one team only.

• 2:40Rayna Greenberg?

  It's enough. One is enough.

• 2:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  I mean, you said you were jealous and you have a right to be. Jalen Hurts is the hottest man alive?

• 2:49Rayna Greenberg?

  Alive?

• 2:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, in the league, but also just alive.

• 2:52Rayna Greenberg?

  Who voted that?

• 2:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Everybody knows this. Every time he speaks, I have to change my underwear.

• 2:58Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, we, a lot of stuff happened in sports this week, specifically in Philly.

• 3:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, so, yeah, so it really is Philly themed. We didn't plan it like that, but we're gonna kick it off with Spitgate. So this was the season opener of the NFL. We talked about it on Monday's episode. The Eagles played the Cowboys. Obviously, the Eagles won the Super Bowl last year, so they're gonna kick it off. I could not wait for this game, Raina. I was so hyped for it. I was like, ready. And I was sat for it. Boys to Men sings the National Anthem. Rob Mack from Always Sunny introduces the team. All this stuff is happening and all of a sudden, Jalen Carter is ejected from the game.

• 3:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Six seconds into the game.

• 3:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  I said, what game?

• 3:39Rayna Greenberg?

  Six.

• 3:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  The game has not started, but this happened before the game even start. Like, the game was not going. He's ejected from the game. I got whiplash. I was like, what just happened?

• 3:52Rayna Greenberg?

  So we'll tell you guys what happened. This is really unprecedented in sports. That's why we're talking about it. You don't have to be a sports fan to think this is crazy. This is a really crazy thing.

• 3:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 3:59Rayna Greenberg?

  So Dak Prescott, the quarterback of Dallas, I guess spit, he says like-

• 4:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  We didn't see that till later.

• 4:05Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 4:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  That, they like ran tape later. All we see is Dak Prescott talking shit to Jalen Carter, who is the Eagles defensive tackle, one of the best defensive players in the league, by the way. So for him to just be out, beginning of the game, just sucked the life out of the stadium.

• 4:20Rayna Greenberg?

  But these are both really famous, seasoned, long time professional players.

• 4:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  So Dak Prescott pops off at him. He spits on him.

• 4:28Rayna Greenberg?

  It's, I couldn't believe it.

• 4:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  He spit on the quarterback. And he, he walked off like, kind of like, I know I'm out. And that's fine. Like his, I know he's apologized since and he probably is obviously so embarrassed and ashamed and hates that he did that to his team. But the look on his face was like, he deserved it. And then later they run tape and Dak Prescott had spit towards him. Like there was other people around and he spit and then I'm assuming it was like, did you spit at me? And then he got in his face and then he spit on him.

• 5:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like I was texting like my brother and Corey, like what are we watching?

• 5:08Rayna Greenberg?

  This is unprecedented in sports. It does not happen. It couldn't, this is not like a year one player that's just like, this guy understands sports. You don't see this. And Dak Prescott played it off in such a weird way too. He was like, I just spit. I just spit all the time. I just be spittin'. And also sounds not true.

• 5:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  I be spittin' bars. You know me, I just be spittin'. Sometimes it should be like that. You know, I got a wet mouth and I'm just out here spittin'. Sorry, Jalen. You know what it is? Also your mama. Like what did Dak say? Like I, he was like, your mom, your mom knows how to spit. Your mom be spittin' when she goes down on me. Like what did Dak Prescott say to him? I was like, I have to know.

• 5:48Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm dying. And you don't see this. This is the first game of the NFL season. This is a Super Bowl winning team. These are professionals at the highest level.

• 5:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  It was a wild game. Obviously the Eagles pulled off a win, but then there was a weather delay for an hour. People on the East Coast, three in the morning, the game ended. Like I was talking to Corey. She was like, I'm still up. My kids went to bed so many hours ago. Like the game got delayed. Like the game was delayed for an hour. I took a shower, a blue jar on my hair.

• 6:13Rayna Greenberg?

  What I would give to know what Jalen Carter said to him, to be like, I don't care. He, he had to have known he was going to be ejected from the game. This isn't like, maybe I'll be allowed to play.

• 6:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  I gotta know. I fucked your mom. It's unprecedented. Like you said, like who's to say?

• 6:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  Is it in the rulebook? You can't be spitting on people?

• 6:32Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, you can't. It's unsportsmanlike contact.

• 6:35Rayna Greenberg?

  They don't, they don't even let you like dance in the end zone anymore. Like

• 6:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, you be, people do it and then they just take the fine. You know, I'd be getting fined every game. And then, so Michael Jordan was at the game? Yeah, that's the price you pay. Michael Jordan was at the game.

• 6:46Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh.

• 6:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like the GOAT and Jalen Hurts, after he scored, he did a like shrug, like a Michael Jordan shrug, like a tribute to him. And they asked him about it at the press conference and he talked about it and I got so horny, just listened to him talk. But whatever, they finally played the tape and then all of Philly, who by the way, was like, this was classless and we're embarrassed. Like, you know, Philly is going to ride for their players, but they were like, that's out of, that's out of pocket. And then Philly turned into Dak spit first. I think a billboard went up, Dak spit first.

• 7:17Rayna Greenberg?

  He fucking started it.

• 7:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Started this shit. And then you had to finish it. You fuck around and you find out.

• 7:21Rayna Greenberg?

  That's what Philly's.

• 7:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  So my favorite thing was, of course, there's memes and everyone, I swear to God, like the memes took a minute to, to surface. Cause I think people were like, what just literally happened?

• 7:33Rayna Greenberg?

  So it was, it was a jump scare to me. Honestly, the level of Will Smith slapping Chris Rock.

• 7:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  You're like, what?

• 7:47Rayna Greenberg?

  I'll never forget where I was with your mom and your brother and your sister-in-law in your brother's living room. And all of us were like, what have I just witnessed?

• 7:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  You are so accurate. Like Jalen Carter spitting on Dak Prescott is so comparable to Will Smith slapping Chris Rock where you're stunned.

• 8:05Rayna Greenberg?

  Like, okay, Will Smith has spent years hearing people talk shit on him and his wife. He has a 30, 40, 50 year career. It's the same thing with like professional sports players. Like I'm sure that they talk shit to each other all the time. Like I'm gonna fuck your mom after this game. Like you gotta have some self-restraint.

• 8:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  So there was a response once people finally digested what had happened, but Jason Kelsey tweeted out, I mean, everyone knows you don't spit, you swallow, obvi.

• 8:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  In these unprecedented times, he came up with a blowjob joke and said, fucking send it out.

• 8:36Rayna Greenberg?

  He's the comedian we all need.

• 8:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  New Heights, put it on their feed. They grid posted it before the game was over. I was like, okay.

• 8:45Rayna Greenberg?

  Put him in. I want him to do the commentary for every football game. I want low key blowjob jokes every week.

• 8:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  Jason Kelsey in that moment was so happy he was retired because he would have thought of it if he was on the sidelines, but he wouldn't have been able to get it out. He was like, this is the best part of retirement.

• 8:59Rayna Greenberg?

  Football's so like low key sexual, just all these guys just like laying all over each other, just like tackling each other to the ground, touching each other's butts and stuff. Like, there should be more innuendos like this.

• 9:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know.

• 9:09Rayna Greenberg?

  Jason Kelsey for commissioner of the NFL.

• 9:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  We haven't talked about spitting in people's mouths in a while. I feel like that was a real COVID talking point. Like, I feel like we were always, and obviously we have a podcast where we're talking about sex, like, I feel like spitting in mouths, I was doing crowd work and stand up about it, like, we haven't touched it in quite a while, so it was good to have a spit gate.

• 9:26Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, I mean, it got really big for us when that guy spit in my mouth.

• 9:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, you were patient zero.

• 9:30Rayna Greenberg?

  That guy who worked at a bar called Felons choked me and spit in my mouth. That guy hated women. He fingered my butthole and never asked if it was okay.

• 9:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, he was from Tampa, so.

• 9:44Rayna Greenberg?

  He's not from fucking Tampa.

• 9:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  Which brings us to the next part of the sports report, because it did happen in Florida, appropriately.

• 9:50Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, it did?

• 9:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, so it was the Phillies played the Marlins in Miami. The very next night after spit gate, homerun Karen gate. So, the Phillies center fielder Harrison Bader hit a homerun. It goes up in the stands and a bunch of people try to get the ball. And this, I went to a baseball game Sunday, like, this always happens. There's a bunch of people around, unless there's one clear person. And so this woman with like two different color hair, looking like a true Cruella Karen, tries to get the ball. This man kind of comes from the end of his row, and he came in and he got the ball and he brings it back to his son. And she goes up and she kind of accosts him.

• 10:27Rayna Greenberg?

  He looks like a real bitch.

• 10:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  He clenches up and he looks really frightened and she, she did touch him. I mean, that stranger comes, you aren't expecting it, you're gonna react physically. But anyway, he, he did give her the ball. He, he was classy about it. He was like, I'm not gonna fight with this woman. He gives her the ball. They're on the cam, like they're on the, you know, Coldplay Kiss Camp. No, they're on the Jumbotron. So the whole stadium is seeing this. They're booing. And afterwards, the Marlins came and gave him a goodie bag, the kid. And then after the game, Harrison Bader met with the family. They gave him a signed bat. Since then, this camper company has come out. I think they gave him a free camper and tickets to the World Series.

• 11:04Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, my God.

• 11:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Kid is totally made out.

• 11:07Rayna Greenberg?

  Totally.

• 11:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  This is the best thing that ever happened in his life now. And everyone has come for her.

• 11:12Rayna Greenberg?

  Obviously. I mean, we agree. She seems like the worst.

• 11:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  But I mean, in her defense, she was just acting in accordance with Florida.

• 11:20Rayna Greenberg?

  I.

• 11:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  No ruder than anyone else in Miami. Absolutely not. We love Miami, but you're the rudest city in America, per the stats.

• 11:27Rayna Greenberg?

  I am gonna, I will say, I do think it was her ball. It, so I.

• 11:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Rena!

• 11:33Rayna Greenberg?

  Let me, let me finish my thought. All right.

• 11:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Let me finish my thought. So objectively, it did, it did go to where her and her husband were. It went directly there.

• 11:40Rayna Greenberg?

  And that guy came from the other side of the row. However, I do think if a parent wants something for their child, it defaults to the child. That lady, I mean, maybe she's the biggest super fan that ever lived and that's, she's the biggest fan of that.

• 11:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  I mean, they flew, they went to Florida. They're all fans. If you're there for the most part.

• 11:58Rayna Greenberg?

  Optically, watching where the ball landed, it was hers. And he came from the other end of the row to get that ball from her. It's weird to steal something from a kid.

• 12:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. So she's in the wrong in how she reacted and she should have known better. That's not how you act. But I had that thought too. Like, is it appropriate to run all the way down your aisle? But I mean, there was a clear pathway. It's not like he took people out on the way. I see your point, but you never take it from a fucking kid. Like, she should have seen that kid and been like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

• 12:32Rayna Greenberg?

  So the US Open CEO, basically there was a hat. He snatched it straight out of this kid's hand. It was crazy to see it. That guy had to fly to that kid's house and apologize to him. It was wild. That is so clearly unfair. But I don't know. It is debatable to me whose this was. And she also could have run down there after that guy, thinking he took it and then realized. It was for a kid.

• 12:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  I do think that is a more normal reaction. Like, she could have been, this is not in defense of her. I'm just playing out like a kind of a normal human interaction of someone who may be a little bit of a hothead, a Philly person. Now they're in Florida, they're even amped up even more. They've been in Miami airport, everyone's on FaceTime in public. They're like, I can be rude as I want. So, and then, yes, you run down there and you're like, I'm gonna fucking get into it, very Philly. And then you're like, oh no, there's a kid. I gotta back off. Like, you don't take the ball then.

• 13:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, it's really weird.

• 13:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's really crazy. And so, everybody's dragging her. And, you know, KFC from Barstool did a great thing on this, which I respect. And it's like, there's never any reason to dox people to threaten their lives over something like this. Like, she's, the punishment's fitting the crime. This lady cannot show her face in public. She's been dragged all over the internet.

• 13:39Rayna Greenberg?

  Can't show that haircut public.

• 13:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right. She's gotta get, she's gotta go into witness protection, change her hair. Like, the punishment is fit the crime. Like, she can't show her face in her community. Like, let's not try to show up to her house and ruin her life. Like, save that energy for actual abusers. I don't know, ICE agents who were masked and out here, like, terrorizing the community. You know, so, it's just, I hate that we take it too far. It's like, this is why we can't have nice, funny things, because people have to take it too far and start sending death threats.

• 14:08Rayna Greenberg?

  I, it reminds me of Scandival on Bravo. And then every other show tried to have their, like, Scandival moment. And I feel like we're all chasing that high of the Coldplay CEO with, like, the US Open CEO. And that guy, I think that guy's a dick. But do I think he had to, like, board a flight, fly to where that kid lives? And do all this? I don't know. People really went after that company pretty hard. And it affects the livelihood of the people in that company that work there, not just that person.

• 14:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. I just think when these things go public, people behaving badly, that's the punishment. Let's enjoy it. Let's talk our shit and just know that they can't show their face at the Target for a while, in their town.

• 14:53Rayna Greenberg?

  She's gotta get a whole new haircut. And honestly, she made out, because someone, something had to make her dye that a different color.

• 15:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  This was all a long, a long con for a change your hair. So I've loving all the memes. My favorite one is the Spirit Halloween costume. So it's so easy to do Phillies jersey wig glasses. We saw a kid, we went to Sunday, we were in Denver and we went to a Rockies Padres game. We saw a kid, probably, I don't know, seven, eight years old. He was really the only person the ball was going to because you know, the players throw the ball after they get off the field. So, so, so many balls were coming right to us. We were like with these great seats. This kid caught it in his mitt, perfect catch. I was like, that fucking kid in his third grade class on Monday, fucking legend.

• 15:40Rayna Greenberg?

  Send him to the MLB.

• 15:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  I just was like, that's how it should be. Took his mitt out. I was like, that's, that was iconic.

• 15:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Literally that kid is going to get so much pussy.

• 15:52Rayna Greenberg?

  Someone's parent is going to catfish him for years.

• 15:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's not funny. It's fucked up.

• 16:00Rayna Greenberg?

  And then our last sports report happened at the Steelers game.

• 16:05Rayna Greenberg?

  At MetLife Stadium, the Steelers were playing the Jets. You guys, if you have not seen this, I invite you to please pull up our YouTube and watch the image of this. Google this. It's, it's hard to take in what this actually looked like. So at the beginning of the game, they're singing the national anthem. There's a 100 foot American flag covering the entire field. And they have people all around it, like waving, there's hundreds of people on the flag. They're waving the flag. It covers the whole field and there's a man. I don't know, maybe he like lost control of the flag. He's crawling across the flag. He cannot get his bearings. It's so Pittsburgh.

• 16:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think it's so America. This man fighting for his life as he crawls across the symbol of the country in 2025. Like this is all of us right now.

• 16:51Rayna Greenberg?

  He could have stood up, but he didn't. He's crawling the whole hundreds feet across the.

• 16:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  So you think he got flipped up?

• 17:04Rayna Greenberg?

  Right, because we think that it's like some, you know, thin flimsy flag. It's a massive, like, hard thing he got.

• 17:14Rayna Greenberg?

  Like, they're saying, no one knows who this man is. Like, the internet did not do its thing on this one. No one knows who this man is, or how he got there. Like, we don't know how he got on the field. It's like, there was hundreds of people in the field, like, waving that flag. So he just, like, accidentally fell on the flag.

• 17:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, do people have conspiracy theories? Like, is this an alien?

• 17:33Rayna Greenberg?

  It's unknown how the person-

• 17:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, did someone accidentally come down? Like, he wasn't supposed to be there, from outer space?

• 17:37Rayna Greenberg?

  It's unclear how he ended up on the field. Nobody knows. It's an incredible thing to see.

• 17:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's really wild. Yeah, you said it to me, I was like, add it to the sports report. Okay, well, let's just take a quick break, and then we will get back into it. So, this episode is brought to you by Saks Fifth Avenue.

• 17:55Rayna Greenberg?

  Fancy.

• 17:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  So, we are self-proclaimed in our fashion era, and we are always looking for the best places to get our clothes. Listen, it's arguable. And we have been loving Saks. So, I mean, I've always loved Saks, who doesn't? I feel like that was early days, one of my first, like, oh my god, Saks Fifth Avenue.

• 18:13Rayna Greenberg?

  When we were going to Saks, growing up, I knew we were about to have a lit day.

• 18:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, like, going to New York City with my mom, just to see it, you know, when I was a kid. So, you can get your trendy clothes, your classics, and really find your personal style with their in-store stylist and online at saks.com. So, they have so many of the brands that we love. Alice in Olivia, I wear so much Alice in Olivia, so much of what I've worn on my tour has been Alice in Olivia, Veronica Beard, Lejeune, even Good American. And then, of course, designers like your Dolce & Gabbana, Oscar de la Renta, Miu Miu. And I am discovering new designers. So, I was in the site, and I saw this black dress. I lost my mind over it. I'm gonna put it up on the screen for you guys. It was by Mac Dougal, which I had not heard of. So, you guys, check it out. And this dress, it's super reminiscent of the white dress I wore in Vegas last year, but better. And I'm like, I just have to have that. I don't know where I'm wearing it, but I must have it. Black at my wedding, why not?

• 19:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's my wedding dress now. So, you guys, check it out. You saw it here first. So bottom line, they truly have clothing for every occasion from a wedding to a workout and at various price points. So if you are like us and in your fashion era, or you just need a closet refresh for fall, head to Saks Fifth Avenue or saks.com to shop.

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• 20:48Rayna Greenberg?

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• 20:52Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 22:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Go to A D D Y I dot com to find a provider.

• 22:08Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, the VMAs were Sunday night. You and I watch award shows now. We live in LA. We watch them every year.

• 22:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  LL Cool J hosted it. Nikki should have hosted. She should host everything.

• 22:18Rayna Greenberg?

  She was there.

• 22:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  She presented. She presented Tate McCray. But I feel like all the, there's a lot of young people in the audience. Like, they had all young people, like Gen Z looking people in the pit, were probably like, whose dad is this? Like, LL Cool J? Like, it was a mixed bag.

• 22:37Rayna Greenberg?

  This was my main takeaway from the VMAs this year. There's a lot of young artists on the stage. This was the opposite. So this was a year of like some extreme nostalgia. Ricky Martin performing, he got the Latin Icon Award. He did some incredible throwbacks. You had Lady Gaga, who I wouldn't say is an old timer, but she hasn't been there in five years. You'd Busta Rhymes, he got the Rock the Bells Visionary Award. Post Malone and Jelly Roll, they're longtime artists. Jessica Simpson, who said she hadn't been there in many, many years. Steven Tyler, Mariah Carey, who got the Video Vanguard Awards. LL Cool J hosted. Like, these are- There are old timers in the music industry, all these people.

• 23:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, I totally agree, but then there on the flip side, there were people I didn't know. I'm gonna, I'm gonna age myself. There were a few, there was a presenter, whoever performed at the very end, I didn't know him. I really enjoyed it.

• 23:26Rayna Greenberg?

  Alex Warren?

• 23:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, no, no. Oh, can we stop Alex Warren? If I never fucking hear that song again.

• 23:30Rayna Greenberg?

  I listen to Alex Warren a lot.

• 23:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  It will not be soon enough. Rayna, that song. A lot of days. The way they have shoved Ordinary down our throats for a year, I cannot hear that fucking song. But there was, of course, Tate McCray and Sabrina Carpenter, and then Cat's Eye One. Like, there was both. It feels like they are trying to reach everyone. Like, of course, you would not have reached a young demo with all of the old school performers and presenters, nor would you have attracted your core MTV audience, like our age millennials, with all the new people. But I feel like they were trying to do the most. Like, for me to see these people, like Mariah Carey era that I grew up with, and then to see people I hadn't even heard of, like, they accomplished something.

• 24:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  They really were playing to an older audience. I, of course, I love it, but I just feel like people are like, who is this? But there was a few highlights. I loved Lady Gaga leaving early to go perform in Madison Square Garden. I just love that energy in general. Like, I have to head out.

• 24:29Rayna Greenberg?

  That's like, we would do that.

• 24:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  I have an arena to headline. I'm just gonna start doing that, leaving a party. I have somewhere bigger and better to be. This, this is just, I stopped in, but I have something more important to be at.

• 24:40Rayna Greenberg?

  It reminds me of that New Year's when like, what, you, Hannah, Remy, everybody like left the stand. You were all, you all like sat that night. You came over to my house for a party.

• 24:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, yeah. We had to work first, then we came to your house. Her performance was terrifying, and I would say not safe for children, and I was triggered as someone who saw the Thriller video too young, and it scarred me for years. Rayna, that performance.

• 25:01Rayna Greenberg?

  She's probably like, mission accomplished.

• 25:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  She's the fucking best. Like, if, again, I say it's, it's pure art, but it was scary.

• 25:08Rayna Greenberg?

  She'll, I mean, she'll come out covered in blood and meat.

• 25:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Sabrina Carpenter, loved her performance.

• 25:15Rayna Greenberg?

  I love everything she does. I think she's great. I, I mean, I love Tate McCray. Like, I'm an OG Tate McCray fan, which you found out last night. And I loved her performance. I thought it was so sexy. But the sand, I just kept thinking, like, if I was in the pit.

• 25:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 25:27Rayna Greenberg?

  Sand.

• 25:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, your first thought wasn't sand all up in her pussy?

• 25:31Rayna Greenberg?

  I guess that was my first thought, was sand in her pussy. I mean, I thought that that was a bold outfit in general to wear if you're gonna do those type of moves. My pussy would have been hanging out on either side of that thing.

• 25:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, but like, sand in the puss? She's like, the sand was not my smartest move.

• 25:47Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, she-

• 25:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, you're not in the splash zone, you're in the sand zone? Like, if I got hit with a face full of sand?

• 25:52Rayna Greenberg?

  I, I totally agree with you, like, but that is an outfit that welcomes sand up the vagina, too. Like, there, there are other outfits you can worn, but I was like, damn. But what if you were in the pit getting hit? Okay, would you rather? Would you rather be in a pit getting kicked sand on you, or, or water?

• 26:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  Wa- water. It's sand in my face, I'm suing.

• 26:14Rayna Greenberg?

  I guess-

• 26:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  Straight to jail.

• 26:15Rayna Greenberg?

  It's like, really uncomfortable.

• 26:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, is this, what is this, Burning Man?

• 26:18Rayna Greenberg?

  But like, I paid a lot for this blowout, and like, sand's not gonna mess that up. I, I honestly, I can't decide, but I think I'm with you. Sand's objectively, like, physically uncomfortable.

• 26:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 26:28Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 26:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Mariah. So, just a fucking legend. She really is. She's so unintentionally funny all the time. And she is a legend, and she is the voice of a generation, and she is not a dancer, and she never has been, and she can get up on that stage and do whatever the fuck she wants. But she was the epitome of, yes, girl, give us nothing. Right? Like, this video, like, and I, people, I saw a video this morning from Chicks in the Office, and they were saying the same thing, and people in the comments were like, how dare you? And it's like, she's a legend, don't get it twisted, she's like, the diva, the icon. She does not, I love this about her. I, I'm saying this as like, I love that she stood up there and she was like, I'll perform. You will hear the song.

• 27:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  But this video I took, like, right up, this, the walk is so slow, wait till she starts walking. And the dancers are at a 12. The dancers are full-

• 27:22Rayna Greenberg?

  They went too hard. It just, it, it really highlights that she's not even-

• 27:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  And here she comes.

• 27:26Rayna Greenberg?

  Not even walking.

• 27:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's not even a strut. I love it. It's just walking down the street.

• 27:34Rayna Greenberg?

  I walk quicker down the street with more, when I take my little five o'clock walk every day, I walk with more energy.

• 27:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  A strut and I fucking love that. She looked stunning. I mean, and I just have to say, like, that was apparently allegedly her first VMA and it was the Video Vanguard Award. And she shaded it to a little bit, like what took you so long, MTV. Like, Raina, I will not comprehend this. How can this be?

• 28:00Rayna Greenberg?

  So I, when she said that, I, I actually was like, that can't be true.

• 28:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, like I need proof.

• 28:05Rayna Greenberg?

  When did the VMAs start?

• 28:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  In, I, I mean.

• 28:09Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, she, I mean, she had to be.

• 28:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, they were all through the nineties.

• 28:12Rayna Greenberg?

  Like she had to still be at the peak of her career.

• 28:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  She was MTV.

• 28:16Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 28:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  I remember the emotions video, like she, Mariah was the nineties. Like how in the world? Like, I don't understand it. Like then you have Sabrina Carpenter, who she's just won her second Moon Man and as she should, rightfully so, but she's newer on the scene. She's has two Mariah Carey number one. What is happening? I truly couldn't believe it.

• 28:36Rayna Greenberg?

  She predates by a long time, Britney Spears, Justin Timberlake, who were like the stars of the VMAs in the early 2000s.

• 28:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 28:42Rayna Greenberg?

  She really, she predates them. I am really confused. I thought it was, I thought it was really like a real jump scare. I was like, nah, girl, you don't remember.

• 28:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. VMAs, yeah, I thought it was the eighties. So the VMA started in 1984. I mean, so her whole career was during the VMAs. I mean, she was the voice. It was her and Whitney Houston. What, how did this happen? How did like Fantasy and Honey? And I mean, Fantasy is just crack. Like.

• 29:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  Her Christmas album should have won a Grammy.

• 29:09Rayna Greenberg?

  Literally.

• 29:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  She should still win Grammys.

• 29:11Rayna Greenberg?

  We should actually give it to her now. She, Mariah Carey is Christmas and she deserves an award for it.

• 29:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  And she is music and she is MTV and I could not believe that. She, she is so fun to watch. She like, she doesn't know she's funny. She's hilarious.

• 29:25Rayna Greenberg?

  She's on the level of like Martha Stewart to me. She should just be saying whatever she wants now. Yes.

• 29:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's the same person in there.

• 29:33Rayna Greenberg?

  They, you just, you hit an age and a diva level where you're just like, I will say whatever I want.

• 29:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  I hate that she's Nick Cannon's ex.

• 29:40Rayna Greenberg?

  I honestly, the whole time you were talking, I was like, when can I bring up Nick Cannon? No, you forget because she seems so far removed from this man who like impregnated half of Los Angeles. Like, you're just like, that can't be Mariah Carey.

• 29:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know. We didn't even talk about this, but she had an interview recently where they told her Katy Perry went to space. Did you see this?

• 29:58Rayna Greenberg?

  No.

• 29:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  You didn't see this? And she said, oh, Katy did. Oh, she went to space? What'd she do there? Did she? Literally someone, Mariah, did you know Katy Perry went to space? She was like, oh, so cute. For what? And then they said, would you ever go to space? She said, I've done enough. You didn't see this? It was so good.

• 30:19Rayna Greenberg?

  I've done enough? That is so iconic.

• 30:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  I just, I really love her music and I always will.

• 30:26Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm gonna use that forever for the rest of, every time somebody asks me like, have you done that? I've done enough.

• 30:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 30:31Rayna Greenberg?

  Exactly.

• 30:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't have to. I've done enough. That's not true. Ashley and I have tons of plans, but. So that was pretty much the VMAs. I mean, you know, I did like a lot of the nostalgia, some of these new people on the scene. I didn't, I did, nothing really blew me away, but you and I are of the era of the true shock value. Like, you'll never see another Madonna, Christina Aguilera, Britney moment, or Miley Cyrus's Robin Thicke performance. So that was so provocative. Like, I don't know. I don't think we're gonna see any of that anymore. We have a high bar.

• 31:02Rayna Greenberg?

  Stuff that shocks you?

• 31:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. I feel like the VMAs used to be about that. Like, that's when people would really show out. They couldn't do that stuff at the Grammys. So I feel like if you even Google like wildest VMA moments, like, it will blow you away. And some of the stuff is like inappropriate now.

• 31:17Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 31:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  And it hasn't aged well. But like, we come from an era of just like, oh, this is a little show.

• 31:22Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, let them.

• 31:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  No surprises. Let them cook.

• 31:29Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. And then, you know, stay tuned for the Emmys. They're on Sunday night. They're 9:14, Sunday night, the primetime Emmys. I don't know who's hosting it. I should have looked it up. I didn't. You guys figured it out.

• 31:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Is it not Nikki?

• 31:39Rayna Greenberg?

  I know. I was like, why isn't it Nikki?

• 31:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Let's see who's hosting it.

• 31:44Rayna Greenberg?

  Every show that is out, we're like, why didn't Nikki host that?

• 31:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  She's the perfect host. Like, she's the, obviously, her is a comedian.

• 31:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  But she's the age you want, like she transcends the different generations, like whatever.

• 31:59Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, she's hosting again next year for, you know, I always be forgetting.

• 32:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  You are gonna be surprised.

• 32:05Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm so excited.

• 32:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  Do you wanna guess?

• 32:07Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, is it a man or a woman?

• 32:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Man.

• 32:09Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, are they?

• 32:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'll never guess that.

• 32:12Rayna Greenberg?

  An actor?

• 32:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  No.

• 32:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Are they in comedy?

• 32:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes.

• 32:15Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, it's a man in comedy. Is he 30 to 40?

• 32:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Hmm.

• 32:20Rayna Greenberg?

  You're not sure? He's 40 plus?

• 32:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  Hmm, yeah.

• 32:22Rayna Greenberg?

  Has he hosted before?

• 32:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, I don't think he's ever hosted anything before.

• 32:27Rayna Greenberg?

  40 plus, never, God, I want it to be Chris DiStefano, but they would never let him.

• 32:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Top, top comedian.

• 32:32Rayna Greenberg?

  Really famous.

• 32:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes.

• 32:34Rayna Greenberg?

  Um, above for Bill Burr?

• 32:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  No.

• 32:38Rayna Greenberg?

  Um, okay, has never hosted any of these things before. It's not Ricky Gervais, obviously. Um.

• 32:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's just, it's unexpected. I'm, one of the top five comedians right now.

• 32:49Rayna Greenberg?

  Can you give me one more clue?

• 32:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  No.

• 32:51Rayna Greenberg?

  It's either white or black.

• 32:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  He's white.

• 32:53Rayna Greenberg?

  A white guy.

• 32:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right, a top, top. We talk about him as like he sells stadiums, like.

• 32:59Rayna Greenberg?

  Nate Bargatze?

• 33:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes.

• 33:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  Does he even know a song? Does he know music?

• 33:08Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 33:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  He might know Jelly Roll. Does Nate Bargatze, he doesn't strike me as someone who listens to music.

• 33:14Rayna Greenberg?

  No, the prime time Emmys. It's not like Grammys.

• 33:19Rayna Greenberg?

  It's like, what is she getting at?

• 33:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  Sorry, I was on the VMAs. Okay, so he might watch a little TV.

• 33:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  So.

• 33:27Rayna Greenberg?

  Real disconnect there.

• 33:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  I was like, what is she getting at?

• 33:31Rayna Greenberg?

  Sorry, it makes a little more sense now. I'm, okay. Here's what I think might have happened.

• 33:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Nate Bargatze hosting the Grammys would be unhinged.

• 33:37Rayna Greenberg?

  No, if you told me that, I would be like, no.

• 33:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Sorry, yes, I got it all twisted up in my head.

• 33:42Rayna Greenberg?

  Maybe it's CMAs.

• 33:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, I can see him.

• 33:45Rayna Greenberg?

  So, the CMAs. So he is the number one selling comedian in the, in the world, I think, but in terms of ticket sales by Ticketmaster last year, number one, I mean, by hundreds, like a hundred million or something like that, so. And he is a clean comic, so I think they know that, like, what they're gonna get with him.

• 34:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  He'll be great. He will be great.

• 34:03Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, he'll be amazing.

• 34:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  You know, speaking of Philly today, he performed in Philly recently. He, my Corey and Ham went to go see him. And he, they adopted a dog in Philly and named it Philly.

• 34:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Wait, Nate did?

• 34:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. Oh, that's so sweet. Yeah. Just adding to the Philly update today, but. That's so interesting.

• 34:19Rayna Greenberg?

  I, he is one of my favorite comedians ever. I think he's phenomenal, but I did not see that coming.

• 34:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm still feeling a little hot from conflating the Emmys and the Grammys. I was like, what is she doing? Cause it was just like music. You got it. Okay. All right. Should we move on to a known number? Oh, God, Ashley, I'm so excited. I'm foaming at the mouth to talk about this.

• 34:37Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, this is a documentary on Netflix. It is about a, a, a high school.

• 34:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  They call it high school catfish.

• 34:44Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes, and this is a high school couple that is getting cyberbullied essentially by this phone number. They keeps texting both of them. It seems to really know a lot about them both. And it is an unknown number. And so it's a 90 minute documentary. It's a quick watch about who this is. And I will tell you, obviously there are spoilers ahead. I have never seen.

• 35:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Spoilers are ahead, you guys. If you really want to be so surprised and you have not seen this on the internet and you are interested at all, stop listening.

• 35:12Rayna Greenberg?

  I will say, I have never seen spoilers like this for a show in the history of time. People were so amped to just talk about their thoughts and feelings that like, they were just like, I gotta make a video right now. Like, I have not seen, like, I've been like teasing like we were liars for like so long. I'm not gonna say what happened.

• 35:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know, but you know what's interesting is that I think people feel like they can share a spoiler of a real news story.

• 35:39Rayna Greenberg?

  It wasn't national news.

• 35:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  You know, like you could Google what happened. Not that you would have never heard of this. It happened in a small town in Michigan. But I think people are like, treat it differently than the, I don't know, the end of a movie. Yeah.

• 35:51Rayna Greenberg?

  Totally. You're totally right. It was a national, a nationally televised news story.

• 35:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  But the documentary itself is, is fine, but I had heard going in, I didn't know who the harasser was. I, I didn't know how it ended. I had heard like, you'll never believe it. I could have never believed it. I had to see it through. Like, the documentary, I don't know if I want to call it mid. It wasn't.

• 36:13Rayna Greenberg?

  I liked it.

• 36:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. I, yeah, I guess I've liked it enough, but I wasn't so enthralled, but I had to see it through. And of course, like you said, it's only like 90 minutes. So, should we just say, I mean, if you guys, if you've seen it, you're listening and the person cyberbullying this young. Um, middle school age, early high school and her boyfriend and honestly, the whole community had really stretched out. Like it tore this community apart. People were being falsely accused. The FBI got involved.

• 36:38Rayna Greenberg?

  Poor kids were accused.

• 36:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes. Like the, again, the school got involved and it wasn't enough. So the FBI got involved and the person who was doing it was the girl's mom.

• 36:47Rayna Greenberg?

  I, I like chills. I, watching it through the lens of knowing that it was the mom was honestly even a crazier experience for me because.

• 36:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh yes, you knew. Yes.

• 36:58Rayna Greenberg?

  I knew because everybody, I mean, I was like, I know this is, watching it through the lens of that and watching all of her interactions. Cause she gives interviews in the beginning as though she can't believe this was happening. And when she's caught, she does say, I didn't start this.

• 37:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  She, which is a blatant lie.

• 37:12Rayna Greenberg?

  She's a really sick individual, really, really mentally ill, but she says, I didn't start this. So I guess in the interviews, she is interviewing as though it had nothing to do with her in the beginning.

• 37:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  Which is just irrelevant. Yes, she did. It's very clear that no one else did. She just wanted to give herself an out to be like, I'm not as fucked up. She says like she tried to get involved because she was trying to figure out who was doing it and then she got carried away. But I mean, if you guys have seen it, of course, like these texts are sexual. She essentially tells her daughter to kill herself. I mean, it's really dark on so many levels. And I was thinking to myself, like, this would be more understandable if this mom was bullying other kids. You would be like, she's mentally ill, but this is like, you're a monster. Like that's the difference between somebody who's just like really fucked up and someone who was like, feels so dangerous. Like to do this to your own child.

• 38:02Rayna Greenberg?

  So, I mean, that is the definition of Munchausen by proxy. So Munchausen by proxy is that somebody is either forcing usually a child or some kind of dependent to act sick or making them sick. And so that you are the dependent that they're coming to. And it's fascinating in the end of the documentary, when the daughter finds out that it was her mother and it's her mother comforting her and putting her arm around her and holding her hand. I mean, I, I felt, I've never felt so physically uncomfortable watching something because the police are in their house telling the daughter, it is your mom. And the mom is the one comforting her. And you do see the dynamic because this girl was so terribly bullied for about a year and a half. And that was her main protector and safe space was this person.

• 38:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right. And it's like, she probably obviously is still, well, she's traumatized for life and she feels really broken. Like the way she speaks is like a real victim. Like early on, I was like, yes, of course, this could just be like a really shy girl who, you know, is uncomfortable, maybe talking on camera. And you realize that as it goes on, I mean, she's been really traumatized. And then towards the end, you're like, she's just broken. I mean, I, she's, she's now closer to her dad, which is great. I mean, they do show her having a deeper relationship with the dad. The dad is just like, fuck you, you crazy lady. And he's obviously done with her, but the daughter is not, they keep in touch while the, the mom goes to prison for about a year and a half, I think. And the mom is out and they're trying to figure their relationship out.

• 39:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  And the daughter has just graduated high school like this past May. So we don't really know what the future holds for her. But I mean, you were saying like, why did this mom participate in this? What the fuck?

• 39:39Rayna Greenberg?

  So I looked and she said, basically, I mean, this is a, this is, watching this is one of the deeply craziest people I've ever seen in my life. I mean, this is somebody who should probably be in prison for the rest of their lives or in a mental institution.

• 39:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes.

• 39:49Rayna Greenberg?

  Um, but she said that she felt like this documentary was going forward no matter what. So she did want to be a part of it to like, tell her story.

• 39:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, yes, you can see that she thinks she is going to convince you like that she's not a bad person. She is a real gaslighter and a manipulator. And they even say that like the way that she acts in court. And she's like this victim and she's had trauma in her childhood too, which of course you don't want to minimize anybody's abuse that they've experienced. And, you know, hurt people, hurt people and people who are abused turn into abusers. Not all the time, of course. So you see how she is trying to, she went into the documentary being like, I'll get them back. No, you won't, sis.

• 40:30Rayna Greenberg?

  This is just a deeply sick person that has no connection to reality. But can I tell you what scene like I was like, what are you doing? So the police come to the house and they basically like get her to confess. They tell the daughter, they call the ex-husband to come there, basically pick up the daughter. And then they just leave. The police leave and they leave this man who has just found out that his ex-wife has been traumatizing their daughter.

• 40:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right.

• 40:54Rayna Greenberg?

  Alone in a home with the two of them.

• 40:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 40:57Rayna Greenberg?

  And like cra- crazier things have happened than somebody very violently assaulting a co-parent for what they have done to a child.

• 41:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 41:06Rayna Greenberg?

  Like, I couldn't believe, the police were like, see you later.

• 41:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  He even says that, he says like, I forget what exactly how it goes down, but he kind of alludes to being like, I don't want to do anything crazy right now.

• 41:15Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 41:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Cause I'm so angry, but I wanted to show you Trevor Wallace's video. He parodied the mom.

• 41:22Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, before you show this to me.

• 41:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 41:24Rayna Greenberg?

  I have to tell you, I spent at least 60 of these 90 minutes. So she has a pretty prominent like buck tooth and her top lip starts at the top of the teeth.

• 41:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  What top lip?

• 41:33Rayna Greenberg?

  And I spent the whole documentary trying to make my face do that.

• 41:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  This is, this, well, you gotta watch this.

• 41:38Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 41:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right. So I've said, Raina, don't watch this. Don't, I don't want you to spoil it. And so we'll put a snippet of this in the screen, but it's, I mean, Trevor's videos just get better and better. This is like a masterpiece. This is the most diabolical masterpiece. His Paris vlog.

• 41:54Rayna Greenberg?

  He does stuff that is like five minutes and you're like, how is this still going?

• 41:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Why, I, it's like, it's too long, but not long enough. I don't know. Okay.

• 42:02Speaker 03

  All the moms and I were just wondering who could be texting my daughter this?

• 42:08Speaker 04

  You ugly ass [BLEEP]. Owen thinks flatter than that ass is that jump shot.

• 42:13Speaker 03

  Because I think I'm crazy.

• 42:16Speaker 05

  I mean, yeah.

• 42:17Speaker 04

  Owen put his fingers in my suck hole.

• 42:20Speaker 03

  He only gets DUIs all the time. Like, if you don't get caught, you don't get a DUI. But I got a DUI. Do you understand like what I'm saying?

• 42:29Speaker 05

  Are you drunk right now?

• 42:31Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 42:31Speaker 04

  Girl, heavens calling. You picking up?

• 42:33Speaker 03

  I just got addicted to texting my daughter like I was in an Xbox Live chat room.

• 42:39Speaker 04

  Owen, more like moaning, cause he want me.

• 42:42Speaker 05

  Did you send 17,000 horrific text messages to your daughter?

• 42:46Speaker 03

  I only sent 16,998 of them. The first two, I don't know. The person is a real monster.

• 42:53Speaker 05

  Wait, wait, hold on. Did you just text me?

• 42:55Speaker 03

  No.

• 42:56Speaker 05

  This is you.

• 42:57Speaker 04

  That's AI. That's you. I got a DUI. That's AI. Where's Owen?

• 43:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  So we, yeah, we didn't mention that, like, essentially she seemed to have a crush on her daughter's boyfriend.

• 43:08Rayna Greenberg?

  It was all about getting them to break up.

• 43:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, but it really escalated from there because they did break up and she kept going. Kendra kept going.

• 43:17Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, he found another girlfriend in a new state and she found that girl and that girl's mom. What after them? This poor boy, I just, I'm obviously this poor girl, but like, yeah.

• 43:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, he's legal now, Rena, so you showed me his picture and you said he was hot. So you are Kendra now. You're going to be sending those texts.

• 43:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  And I need to keep an eye on you. This is how we run the business into the ground. Rena starts texting me. Rena's the unknown number. If I come in and you're like, oh, I was nothing. I was, I wasn't doing anything. You put your phone away.

• 43:53Rayna Greenberg?

  Listen, as a former catfish victim, okay, that one time I got catfished.

• 43:59Rayna Greenberg?

  Hurt people, hurt people.

• 44:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh my gosh. All right. Well, so that is Unknown Number on Netflix. It's a wild watch. So you guys check it out. Let's just talk about our remaining partners and then we will wrap it up with some headlines for you guys.

• 44:16Rayna Greenberg?

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• 44:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  I use this and you should too.

• 44:48Rayna Greenberg?

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• 45:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  And just understanding your body, understanding what's going on in your body, what you might be prone to. I mean, like your thyroid, your immune system, your cholesterol, your metabolism, like all these different things. Like you were saying, it's your goal to really go to the doctor and see what's going on in your body.

• 45:32Rayna Greenberg?

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• 45:50Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 46:35Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 47:17Rayna Greenberg?

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• 47:59Rayna Greenberg?

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• 48:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, so we just have some headlines for you and then we will send you on your way. Luigi Mangione update. He starred in a Shein ad.

• 48:23Rayna Greenberg?

  So if you were scrolling Shein and you saw Luigi in a shirt, which has sold out now multiple times, that shirt went crazy.

• 48:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  I couldn't process this. Like a bunch of people sent it to me and I kept trying to get the whole story and there is no story. Like essentially they just used this image. Shein has still has apologized and they were like, we got this from a third-party vendor. And everybody's debating whether or not it's AI. Obviously, he didn't sit and model for Shein out from prison. You know, he's not a former model. He's a former assassin.

• 48:55Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, we've been needing a little bit of Luigi in our lives and I don't care who gives it to me. But fashion brands have been doing this for many, many years. I mean, since the beginning, predating like current AI tools. I was always able to mock up stuff that we sell on models.

• 49:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, okay. I was like, what are, no, but like not famous people, yeah.

• 49:13Rayna Greenberg?

  But like it is, I mean, I can choose from like 10 or 12 models when I upload it. And I guess that website could have provided whoever.

• 49:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, I am very confused. Like Shein, Shein, Shein, whatever, they're a Chinese brand. Does China know Luigi? Like, did someone at Shein or this third-party send this image over? And they were like, they're never gonna know. They're never gonna know. And then it's like, we're gonna know.

• 49:41Rayna Greenberg?

  That's, but like, it's a major crime in the US. Like, did China know about this? Probably not.

• 49:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  Did someone slip this in?

• 49:49Rayna Greenberg?

  And they were like, yes.

• 49:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  China won't know. Like, I've gotta know how that, how this went down.

• 49:54Rayna Greenberg?

  Absolutely.

• 49:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  They're blaming someone, like, is there just like an intern at Shein that was like, watch this?

• 50:01Rayna Greenberg?

  Probably.

• 50:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  See if this makes those websites?

• 50:03Rayna Greenberg?

  Or it came from the top and they're like, we're gonna get so much attention from this. Who cares?

• 50:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, right. So like, what is the punishment, if any, here? I mean, there's, I feel like we're losing the battle to AI. So like, if this was intentional, brilliant. It got all this attention, it sold the shirt, you know, everybody's talking about it. And then they're like, oh, whoopsie.

• 50:26Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, it depends on how much money you have to fight somebody legally. Nobody can use your name and likeness.

• 50:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 50:31Rayna Greenberg?

  So like, you and I cannot be on a website. Anybody could take our bodies and our faces. I don't know why you'd want to.

• 50:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, but they're like, what's he gonna do? He's in jail.

• 50:38Rayna Greenberg?

  Right. What is he gonna do? But I bet you like, he has a lot of financial backers that do stuff pro bono for him.

• 50:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, there is a fan club that is selling merch and the money is supposed to go towards his legal fees. I don't know if he's involved in it, but I do think there is actually official Luigi merch and the money is supposed to go to

• 50:57Rayna Greenberg?

  Did he model for that?

• 50:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  To his case.

• 50:59Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 51:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  But I'm like, who's to say that those people are legit? I mean, do they know him? Are they family members? I don't know.

• 51:04Rayna Greenberg?

  Fans.

• 51:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, just fans. That's the fan club.

• 51:07Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, this came down unfortunately.

• 51:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, well, that's your Luigi update.

• 51:11Rayna Greenberg?

  What if he became like the Revolve girl for Shein?

• 51:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, like he's like

• 51:17Rayna Greenberg?

  No one knows her name.

• 51:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Shein, you can use it. You just gotta pay me.

• 51:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Like, she has the same, oh, there's a couple of Revolve girls, but the main Revolve girl.

• 51:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Which I don't know if she's a real person, but someone said they saw her once.

• 51:28Rayna Greenberg?

  No, she, no one's ever, she doesn't go to events. I learned her name once and I forgot.

• 51:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Such a celebrity. What have we got her on the podcast?

• 51:35Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't even know what I would do if I saw her. I feel like she doesn't speak. Like, I just think she, she's a mannequin to me. It is a jump scare when you hear some model speak. You're like, you're not supposed to be doing that. I didn't know you could do that so good. She, there are a couple of Revolve girls, but the main one, I would love to just see her in the wild, but she's not AI generated, but like, she could be.

• 51:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  She looks AI generated, but she predates AI generation. I mean, she's been the Revolve girl since I've been shopping, since I had enough money to shop on Revolve. So for the last 10 years. Okay, so next is Trump's birthday card to Jeffrey Epstein. Everyone knows they were buddies. He was always there. And this birthday card has been in the news and they finally got a hold of the birthday book. So this birthday book that a bunch of other rapists gave to Jeffrey Epstein, I guess Donald Trump was in it. And we knew the copy on it. It's like this little skit he mapped out or something. It's very confusing, but it starts with saying like narrator, and then it's like a script between him and Jeffrey Epstein saying like, we have so much in common or something like that, which feels a little

• 52:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  high level for him.

• 52:39Rayna Greenberg?

  I can't believe he was that creative to come up with this. And then it is the outline of a cadaver.

• 52:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's like a woman's body. It's supposed to be.

• 52:45Rayna Greenberg?

  With no arms.

• 52:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  A little bit of like a lewd drawing.

• 52:48Rayna Greenberg?

  And at the bottom, Donald Trump scribbled his signature. I thought it was, I actually, I swear to God, I didn't know it was his signature. I thought it was a woman's bush. Like, is that supposed to look like someone's bush?

• 52:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  The little titties?

• 52:58Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, doesn't it look like a vagina?

• 53:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  But of course, he's like, I don't draw pictures. His stupid kids are like, he doesn't draw. And it's like, yes, of course he draws pictures.

• 53:07Rayna Greenberg?

  Smoking gun. Donald Trump doesn't.

• 53:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  Eric Trump is like, my dad doesn't draw. He's a literal child. He does draw. Like, I know for certain. Like, I feel like this is like a toddler who colors all over the white walls with a crayon and is like, I didn't do that. I would never do that. I can't even hold a crayon. And it's like, the crayon is in your hands.

• 53:22Rayna Greenberg?

  Also, this conversation makes no sense. And he's like, that's lit. Send it.

• 53:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 53:27Rayna Greenberg?

  This is just a bunch of like, innuendos about them having sex with young women, by the way. That's what this is. And he put it in a birthday book. He's like, let's immortalize this forever.

• 53:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  The wilder thing is this narrative that was spun last week, that Trump was an FBI informant. Do you not see this?

• 53:45Rayna Greenberg?

  What?

• 53:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  You did not see this.

• 53:46Rayna Greenberg?

  To take Epstein down.

• 53:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes.

• 53:49Rayna Greenberg?

  Carolyn Levitt wrote that.

• 53:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think, I think Mike Johnson like co-signed this. They've, they've walked it back a little bit. But I swear to God, like, MAGA was believing this, like, that Trump was this hero in a cape that was at the parties with the underage girls as an FBI informant. And people believe this. And I like to tread lightly with. Calling people stupid, but you're stupid if you believe it. If you believe that he was an FBI informant and was at these parties because he was trying to, what, like, get Epstein from the inside?

• 54:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Ashley, this is so crazy. This reminds me of when I was 15 years old and my boyfriend came over and he brought a bunch of liquor. And I probably drank a whole bunch of it. I put it in my underwear drawer like an idiot. And my mom did my laundry and opened up my drawer and she was like, what the fuck is this? And I was like, a bunch of kids were drinking and I took it.

• 54:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes.

• 54:37Rayna Greenberg?

  I took it because I didn't want them to drink. And my mom bought that story.

• 54:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  Not to call her stupid, but if you believe this, you are stupid and you are in a cult.

• 54:48Rayna Greenberg?

  It is so idiotic. My mom let me sell her that story that I just like, didn't want other kids to be drinking. And that's why there was a handle of liquor in my drawer.

• 54:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  Because she wanted to believe you were a good kid, which is understandable from a mom to a daughter, but not here.

• 55:02Rayna Greenberg?

  For adults that are supporting the president of the United States. Also, I wasn't the president.

• 55:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  Also, he wasn't in the FBI. Like, you know what's so funny is they used the word FBI. They didn't say he was a secret agent. They said FBI. Can't the FBI be like, he's not on the roster?

• 55:18Rayna Greenberg?

  No.

• 55:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Donald Trump? He's not an FBI agent.

• 55:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Not the Department of War is gonna like, crush the FBI. They're like, you better not say it.

• 55:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, he was just a scammer that was at the parties with the girls.

• 55:27Rayna Greenberg?

  Doing the same stuff.

• 55:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, doing the same stuff. But anyway, it's just...

• 55:31Rayna Greenberg?

  He immortalized it on this weird cadaver with a Bush signature at the bottom.

• 55:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  The cadaver. It looks like a cadaver. There's no arms.

• 55:39Rayna Greenberg?

  Alright.

• 55:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  She doesn't have arms.

• 55:41Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, let's lighten it up with who, what, what hot people are dating what other hot people? It is an avalanche of hot people dating hot people this week. And they're just like, they're just like, fuck it. I don't care. I'm gonna go on dates and enjoy myself. And I love to see it. So Olivia Jade double dipped right now. Leave some for the rest of us.

• 55:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Which is Aunt Becky's daughter, if you guys are familiar.

• 56:00Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes, Olivia Jade Giancooli, I think is her last name. She was on a date with Glenn Powell. And then was also spotted at her ex-Jacob Alordi's premiere last night. So people are speculating that they're still, I mean, this girl leaves no crumbs.

• 56:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, if you were stringing along both Glenn Powell and Jacob Alordi.

• 56:19Rayna Greenberg?

  What the fuck would she do? She got that Meghan Markle pussy.

• 56:24Rayna Greenberg?

  She's got that leave the royal family pussy.

• 56:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Aunt Becky's like, she got that, like, she got it like that. That's how Aunt Becky, Aunt Becky got Uncle Jesse with that good puss.

• 56:35Rayna Greenberg?

  And then Austin Butler was actually parading around with Zoe Kravitz a lot, but then they were actually just, they were on a movie together, so.

• 56:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes.

• 56:42Rayna Greenberg?

  And then they split off and they have been also just dating up a storm. Her and Harry Styles have been all over New York.

• 56:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Zoe Kravitz.

• 56:49Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes. Zoe Kravitz, lots of three different dates. They're kinda cute together.

• 56:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh my gosh, don't, I can't, I ship this more. Zoe Kravitz's taste is impeccable. So Channing Tatum, obviously that was my favorite celeb couple of all time, but who did we talk about? That she dated someone else that was like more Raina's type? Like, we went through her dating history.

• 57:08Rayna Greenberg?

  It's incredible. She's, she's like the number one.

• 57:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  And now Harry Styles, I'm obsessed with this. I guess he lent her his blue jacket. He has this like beloved blue jacket that people recognize. She's wearing it.

• 57:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Also, I didn't realize how tiny she is and he's kinda tall. He's six feet, he's tall for, he's tall for a person in entertainment. He's six feet tall and she's five two. They're so cute together.

• 57:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh my gosh, can't get enough.

• 57:31Rayna Greenberg?

  And then finally, Austin Butler spun off from her and he has been on a date with Emily Radikowski and they're like parading around together too. All of these are just like obscenely hot people. It's crazy, hot people are dating hot people.

• 57:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  I remember the person that she like allegedly dated was Drake.

• 57:48Rayna Greenberg?

  Who?

• 57:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Zoe Kravitz. We talked about this before. Channing Tatum, Chris Pine, Penn Badgley, these are people she's dated or have been rumored to date. But I just, I love her taste. And yeah, I mean, you were saying like, leave some for the rest of us.

• 58:00Rayna Greenberg?

  It's crazy.

• 58:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's just, but you know, hot people are gonna do that.

• 58:03Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 58:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  And then I think one of the most beautiful women alive is Kaia Gerber, but she is dating someone who I don't really know who he is and he's not that hot, but that's fine.

• 58:12Rayna Greenberg?

  She broke up with Austin Butler, she's had enough hot.

• 58:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, she was dating him too? I can't keep up.

• 58:15Rayna Greenberg?

  That was, that's her ex, that's who she was with for years.

• 58:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's like a real web.

• 58:18Rayna Greenberg?

  That's what I'm saying. These people are just like jumping around each other. She's dating an actor that's like, like a B-list, like mildly known.

• 58:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  I always.

• 58:27Rayna Greenberg?

  And they went, they went public this week also.

• 58:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  Zoe Kravitz is 36 and Harry Styles is 31. Oh, okay. He's, he's, he's grown up. I always think of him as young. I think of like One Direction. I think of The Idea of You.

• 58:43Rayna Greenberg?

  I know that book.

• 58:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  The book, yeah. And the movie also that was like loosely based on him, but I think of him as young and he's, look at him, 31.

• 58:51Rayna Greenberg?

  All grown up.

• 58:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  I like that little age gap between them.

• 58:52Rayna Greenberg?

  I rewatched Don't Worry Darling on a plane the other day.

• 58:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  I've never seen it. I need to watch it.

• 58:56Rayna Greenberg?

  People didn't like it that much. I loved it.

• 58:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 58:58Rayna Greenberg?

  Anyways.

• 58:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, guys, well, that's your snack. We hope you enjoyed it. You can find us at girlsgottaeat.com, Girls Gotta Eat Podcast on Instagram and TikTok. I am Ash Hess. Raina is Rayna Greenberg. Subscribe on YouTube. Share this episode with a friend and we will see you Monday.

• 59:14Rayna Greenberg?

  Stay tuned for a big announcement on Monday.

• 59:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Get ready.

• 59:17Rayna Greenberg?

  Have a great weekend, guys.