#167 Lindy Li - Obama’s Third Term, Kamala Paying Beyoncé, Cardi B, and Oprah

Lindy Li, is a former campaign advisor and prominent commentator on U. S. politics who’s made significant contributions to the political landscape. After moving from China to America at the age of five, she eventually attended Princeton University where she became the first woman to serve as class president for all four years. Her early career included roles as a financial analyst at Merck and Morgan Stanley before pivoting to politics, where she served as the Women's Co-Chair and Mid-Atlantic Regional Chair at the Democratic National Committee. She was also involved in the Asian American outreach team for Joe Biden's 2020 presidential campaign. Li has recently transitioned from her Democratic roots to align with conservative politics, citing a toxic culture within her former party as one of many reasons for her departure. She has been vocal in criticising both President Biden and Vice President Harris, claiming that their leadership has stifled dissent within the party. She currently co-chairs the Justice Unites Us Super PAC, focusing on increasing Asian-American voter turnout, and has been recognized as one of Pennsylvania's most powerful women. In January 2025, she was appointed to President-elect Donald Trump's inaugural fundraising committee, marking a significant shift in her political affiliations. Shawn Ryan Show Sponsors: https://shawnryanshow.com/newsletter Lindy Li Links: Substack - https://substack.com/@lindyli TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@lindyliofficial Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/lindy_li/ X - https://x.com/lindyli LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/thelindyli/ Please leave us a review on Apple & Spotify Podcasts. Vigilance Elite/Shawn Ryan Links: Website | Patreon | TikTok | Instagram | Download Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:01Speaker 00

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• 1:05Speaker 02

  Lindy Lee, welcome to the show.

• 1:08Speaker 03

  Shawn, you're the best. So happy to be here.

• 1:10Speaker 02

  Thank you. Well, we have a lot to talk about today.

• 1:13Speaker 03

  Let's do it. I'm ready.

• 1:14Speaker 02

  You sure?

• 1:15Speaker 03

  Totally ready, born for this.

• 1:16Speaker 02

  Got some big news, some names I heard you're gonna drop?

• 1:19Speaker 03

  Whatever you want. I'm here, 100%, even if it's ugly.

• 1:23Speaker 02

  Perfect. All right. Well, we'll start it off with a introduction here. Lindy Lee, recognized as a prominent political strategist. You've raised millions of dollars for the DNC and for both the Biden and Harris campaigns. You've become outspoken critic of the DNC and its wasteful spending and misguided policies. Recently appointed to the Trump Vance Inaugural Committee, raising money for President Trump's inauguration. Now you work with RNC leadership, and you are the youngest woman ever to run for Congress in American history. When did you run for Congress?

• 2:01Speaker 03

  When I was 24. Oh, man, didn't go well.

• 2:05Speaker 02

  What made you want to run for Congress at 24?

• 2:07Speaker 03

  I wanted to save our country. Actually, Sandy Hook happened on my birthday and it became my life mission to ensure that another five-year-old would never be murdered in the classroom. Obviously, I didn't complete my mission yet.

• 2:19Speaker 02

  So are you anti-two-way?

• 2:22Speaker 03

  No, I'm not. I'm anti-five-year-olds getting killed at school.

• 2:26Speaker 02

  I think everybody is.

• 2:27Speaker 03

  Exactly. But the right to bear arms is in the Constitution. That's not where my argument is. My argument is these poor babies.

• 2:35Speaker 02

  So how, I'm actually curious, how, what's, what's, what's the answer in your opinion?

• 2:40Speaker 03

  People like Adam Lanza shouldn't have access to guns. He's clearly, he was clearly off his rocker and his mom should have been more responsible. She should have done everything she could to lock up the gun. Parents have responsibility. This is not about restricting the Second Amendment. This is about making sure that people who are clearly lunatics should not be accessing guns. It's common sense.

• 3:00Speaker 02

  Do you think the parents should be held responsible?

• 3:04Speaker 03

  In this case, yeah, because Adam had a long history of mental illness. So it wasn't, this is not a leap. The mom should have been cognizant of the risks, but she was very slipshod and haphazard with the way that she handled guns.

• 3:18Speaker 02

  Yeah. All right. Well, we got a lot of stuff to talk about.

• 3:23Speaker 03

  I'm not a San Francisco liberal who wants, I'm not a Dianne Feinstein who wants to, you know, come to your house and take away your guns. That's not where I'm, just to be very clear.

• 3:30Speaker 02

  That's good. That's good. Because I'm not going to give them up. Not dumb, but, uh, um, but we have a lot of stuff to talk about. The most important subject, the one that I want to talk about the most is, you know, Biden's cognitive decline.

• 3:46Speaker 03

  I have so much to say about that.

• 3:47Speaker 02

  I can't wait to get into that, but I, I just have one thing I have to know.

• 3:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 3:53Speaker 02

  Whose cocaine was in the White House?

• 3:57Speaker 03

  Oh my gosh.

• 4:01Speaker 03

  Can I just say that I am friends with members of the Biden family, one of whom actually lives down the street from me. I think it's easy for people to figure out who does. I mean, I live in Philadelphia. Okay, fine, Ashley Biden lives in Philadelphia. I did hear from someone close to the Bidens that when Hunter said he was sober, he actually wasn't sober, and this is when Biden was president.

• 4:28Speaker 02

  So it was Hunter's Coke?

• 4:29Speaker 03

  I can't say for sure that that particular bag of Coke was his, but I'm just saying that when he claimed to be sober, he wasn't sober.

• 4:36Speaker 02

  Oh, okay. I think if it was Hunter's, it probably would have been an empty bag.

• 4:41Speaker 03

  But I'm just saying, you know, he had this mirage of the fact that, you know, he pretended to turn the leaf, he pretended to be a good man now, but a lot of that was just a charade.

• 4:55Speaker 02

  Yeah. Hunter definitely likes to party.

• 4:58Speaker 03

  He certainly does. And going to that, I want everyone to know that at every event, he was in the front row, sitting like he was royalty. And a part of me was just like cringing inside because he was waltzing around, like the entire world didn't see him prancing around naked with prostitutes and snorting cocaine. I just like, does this guy have no shame to be at the White House in the hallowed halls of the people's house, pretending like nothing happened, pretending like the world didn't see him in a bathtub?

• 5:31Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yeah. You know, I think there was a lot of the past four years, a lot of disgusting stuff that happened over in the Capitol and in the White House. I mean, there was that, who was that guy? That guy that was...

• 5:44Speaker 03

  I asked one of your staff if I'm allowed to curse in here, like fucking in Congress?

• 5:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 5:49Speaker 03

  Disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. It's like, it embodies everything that's wrong with the Democratic Party.

• 5:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, that, and then the...

• 5:57Speaker 03

  And then the topless man, let's just say a man, on the south lawn of the White House.

• 6:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, that was...

• 6:03Speaker 03

  An absolute disgrace.

• 6:04Speaker 02

  That was crazy, man.

• 6:05Speaker 03

  Disgusting.

• 6:06Speaker 02

  That was crazy. I was actually in DC when that happened. Not at that party, though.

• 6:13Speaker 03

  I would have questions of who were that party.

• 6:16Speaker 02

  But, and then.

• 6:18Speaker 03

  I wasn't, I'm usually invited to stuff. I wasn't invited to that party.

• 6:21Speaker 02

  And then, before we get started, when you, when you, when we first met you, what happened on Joe's podcast? He came out and said something about the Harris, uh.

• 6:32Speaker 03

  He came out this morning, or the clip, the clip was released this morning. He basically exposed the Harris campaign as a liar, as though we didn't already know that, but. So a book is coming out. That states that it was Joe's fault. That Kamala didn't go on his podcast. Joe basically came out and put the lie to that. The Harris campaign wanted to blame him for it not working out.

• 6:59Speaker 02

  Why? Why do they want to?

• 7:00Speaker 03

  Because they realized it was the biggest fuck up to not do the podcast. She should have been on your show. She should have been on Joe's podcast. She, she should have been everywhere. Instead of building $100,000 shop, um. Fake set for Call Her Daddy.

• 7:13Speaker 02

  Yeah. We, we invited her. We were talking to her people and, you know, it was. It could only be an hour. Then we had to discuss the topics first and it got, it just got to the point where. I was like, look.

• 7:31Speaker 02

  Why don't you just give me the outline? And I'll do that interview because I don't care what you give me. I'll make it work and, um, and then. And you know what I think it was? I think it was the Bret Baer interview, which honestly, to be honest with you, I didn't even think it was that bad. I mean, there's a couple of parts, but I thought, I thought she handled it. Okay. And, uh, but after, it was like after that, it was dead silence. We had Newsweek put something out. We had the Washington Post put something out and it just turned into crickets, but.

• 8:02Speaker 03

  I don't understand why it's so hard for her to answer simple questions. I don't understand why she has to do these endless word salads. Like, why is it so hard for you to be human? Just answer the question. You don't have to talk in endless circles. I just don't get it and I know her. Like when I talk to her, she's fine, but when she does these interviews, she becomes like a android. You know what I mean? It's like, like Sean, you're talking to me like a real. Full-blooded person? Why can't she just be that? You know, we, we don't wanna rehearse. We don't wanna caricature as president. We want a human being that we can relate to.

• 8:40Speaker 02

  Why do you think she can't? Do you think she is intimidated? Do you think?

• 8:44Speaker 03

  There are several explanations. Some, some people say that she's just not that intelligent it could be. Maybe she can't think on her feet. Maybe she relies on, you know, um, talking points. But I have friends on her staff who tell me that she would get pissed at them for her own lack of preparation. Like she would yell and she would get frustrated at them for her own inability to read the talking points and to internalize them. Um, it's just, I don't know.

• 9:12Speaker 04

  So I, you know, I, we do need to move on because our time is short. But I'm trying to understand how it is that with this emphasis on the border, the numbers of crossings quadrupled under the first three years of the Biden-Harris administration. What, how did that happen?

• 9:34Speaker 05

  There are a variety of factors that relate to what we have seen globally and what we are not immune from at our own border in terms of what we have seen in terms of surge of immigration and irregular migration. And there are solutions at hand, but we've gotta have leaders who are solution-oriented, which we've been and are, and I am going forward, instead of leaders who want to make it a problem they can run on.

• 10:11Speaker 02

  She definitely didn't seem quick on her feet, but, um, but I would still love to interview her. And I'm glad Joe, you know, was able to set the record straight.

• 10:20Speaker 03

  Yeah, and I'm here. If you, I will give you as many names as you need in order to make the interview happen because I know she, she, her staff and she will see her requests, it's just a matter of her, her willingness, you know, because she's so afraid to fuck up.

• 10:35Speaker 02

  Yeah. What's she doing now?

• 10:38Speaker 03

  She's deciding whether to run for governor in 2026 or try again for 2028. And I had someone, I kid you not, call me at 3:30 a.m. this morning.

• 10:48Speaker 02

  Run for governor in California?

• 10:49Speaker 03

  Yeah, well, she didn't call me, but I have a mega donor. She's a co-founder of Two Factor Authorization. She called me at 3:30 a.m. this morning saying the Democratic Party is in shambles. Yes, we already knew that, but coming from the horse's mouth, it was very important. And she, um, she was saying how nobody, nobody, there's not a single person of importance in the Democratic Party thinks that Kamala Harris should run again. But Kamala Harris is in her cloud of delusion. She still might, she still might run again in 2028 for president. So right now, the choice is whether to run for California governor in 2026 or president in 2028. And let me tell you something that the press doesn't know about.

• 11:30Speaker 03

  In order to run for governor in 2026, she would have to betray one of her closest friends. Because the current lieutenant governor is a woman named Eleni. She's a long Greek last name, please don't make me say it. But she's the current lieutenant governor of California under Gavin Newsom. She is running for governor now. She's the current frontrunner. She's very close with Kamala. In fact, her cousin Kristin Bertolina Faust was Kamala Harris's finance chair. So for Kamala Harris to run for governor, she would have to stab her friend in the back. And I know, um, her, this is important because it's, it's a question of integrity versus ambition. Is she gonna put her friend first or she's gonna put her ambition first?

• 12:12Speaker 03

  If I were to, I mean, I know Kamala and I would say that she would probably put her ambition first. Um, friendship is collateral damage for her.

• 12:21Speaker 02

  Man, well, she'd probably be a shoo-in out in California.

• 12:26Speaker 03

  I don't know. I think honestly, after the fires, I think the fires were a game changer and showed even Democrats that the entire party is just a party of fuck. Like even liberals understand that now. There's been a complete mood shift across Hollywood. And I have donors across Hollywood, across finance, they are fed up.

• 12:45Speaker 02

  Wow. All right, well, let's move in. Got a couple of things to cover first. So I have a Patreon account. There are top subscribers, there are top supporters. A lot of them have been with us since the very beginning. I started this thing in my attic, believe it or not, and then we moved here. Now we're building a new studio and it's all because of them. But, um, so one of the things I do is I offer them the opportunity to ask each and every guest a question. And so this question is from Eric Algar. Lindy? You're a strong advocate for progressive policies and frequently appear in the mainstream media to push your message. Conservatives often argue that media landscape is overwhelmingly biased towards the left.

• 13:28Speaker 02

  Silencing, distancing voices. Given your platform and reach, do you acknowledge that there is a media bias problem? And if not, how do you explain the censorship and suppression of conservative viewpoints on major platforms?

• 13:43Speaker 03

  I totally agree. Well, there's one element of that question that I'm gonna have to politely disagree with. I don't think I'm, I've never been an outright progressive. I'm progressive on the environment, but that's pretty much it. I want clean air and clean water, and I want to remind everybody this is a fundamentally Republican issue originated with Richard M. Nixon. He started the EPA. All right. Putting that aside, there is tremendous bias against conservatives across mainstream media. But I think the 2024 election was kind of, it's the moment when the crack just, you know, the crack deepened and people realized that the facade was falling.

• 14:23Speaker 03

  You know, the Democratic Party no longer, despite the entire array of the mainstream media, they still weren't able to perpetrate the lie that Biden wasn't in cognitive decline, that Kamala Harris wasn't a weak candidate. So finally, the scales are falling off of people's eyes and they're realizing the mainstream media is in cahoots with the Democratic Party and they're sick and tired of that. So I'm really glad that people like superstars like you, like Joe Rogan and so many, actually, you and Joe, just the two of you, and others in the podcast landscape, you guys are, you know, putting the lie to the mainstream narrative. For example, the Hunter Biden laptop story.

• 15:09Speaker 03

  I want to be, I'm here to be painfully honest, okay? I don't think the 2020 election was stolen, but I think it was rigged.

• 15:17Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. How do you think it was rigged?

• 15:19Speaker 03

  Because the Hunter Biden laptop story was real as fuck. It was real. It wasn't Russian disinformation. The intelligence, the intelligence community lied. Which is, I actually know Tulsi, I'll tell you why later, but she is right to question the conclusions of the intelligence community. Because these are the same people who told us that the Hunter Biden laptop story was fake. And they're still, the vast majority of Democrats are still gonna tell you that it's fake. It's not fake. Even the Washington Post did a deep, um, analysis of the contents of the laptop. And the Washington Post substantiated the validity of the laptop. Okay? And so the big guy, that's true. The 10%, 10% to the big guy, that's true.

• 16:03Speaker 03

  You know, they checked out the metadata. This is not, it's not Russian disinformation. And you have people like Anthony Blinken lying on behalf of his boss. That is not okay. So it may not have been stolen, but it was rigged. Because that story should have gone out. The New York Post shouldn't have been censored. People on social media, people on Facebook and Twitter at that time. They should have been able to spread that story. And I am sorry, I'm sorry, here, I'm gonna apologize, okay? I'm sorry that I, I bought into it. I didn't, I knew, I know Joe, okay? And a part of me is still gonna, I'm sorry if you think I'm nuts. But a part of me still is gonna love him for the rest of my life.

• 16:46Speaker 03

  Because of the kindness that he's shown to me, but now I know he's corrupt.

• 16:52Speaker 02

  Well, we're gonna dive into all that corruption. All right. Oh, and then lastly, everybody, everybody gets a gift here.

• 16:59Speaker 03

  Oh, my gosh!

• 17:00Speaker 02

  Little something for the ride home.

• 17:02Speaker 03

  This is amazing!

• 17:03Speaker 02

  The Jonsley gummy bears made here in the USA. They taste amazing. They're not the healthiest, but you know.

• 17:10Speaker 03

  Thank you so much. It's just in your store, everyone should buy them if they are.

• 17:13Speaker 02

  Oh yeah, they're in the store, but they're always sold out.

• 17:17Speaker 03

  Thank you. This is so kind.

• 17:18Speaker 02

  You're welcome. Alright, so let's move on. So, a little bit about you. Your great-grandfather was executed by the CCP, correct?

• 17:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, and he wasn't even a major dissident. He just raised objections at a village-town meeting. It wasn't even anything. It wasn't even anything important.

• 17:38Speaker 02

  What, what did he do?

• 17:40Speaker 03

  He just dared to. I don't, it wasn't even consequential enough to be documented. It was just, he disagreed with the local communist leaders and they just basically shot him. And so my dad grew up without a grandfather and my dad was so poor that he had dirt floors. It's amazing that he managed to come to the West. It's, it's amazing. He's the hardest-working person I've ever met in my life.

• 18:03Speaker 02

  So they immigrated to England?

• 18:06Speaker 03

  I did, actually.

• 18:07Speaker 02

  You did?

• 18:07Speaker 03

  My parents left me two weeks after I was born and then picked me up when they were ready and we went to Sheffield, England.

• 18:12Speaker 02

  Wow, wow. And then, how'd you get to the States?

• 18:16Speaker 03

  We did it the right way and that is why I feel so strongly about illegal immigration, let me tell you. It's illegal immigration. Why can't we say illegal aliens? Isn't that what they are? Like, enough of the euphemisms, okay? Democrats police our language and it's ridiculous. These people are illegal immigrants. We waited for years to come here. We came here with 200 bucks. We never took a hand out. We did everything the right way. We got, we built our life through blood, sweat and tears. And that is the way it should be. No one should be storming the southern border, okay? We all had desperate lives. The CCP were literally killing, was literally killing us, so. It might, you know, it's just...

• 19:01Speaker 03

  We are not the trash can of the world.

• 19:03Speaker 02

  It's interesting, though. I mean, I'm just curious because a lot of, you know, you see a lot of people that come from communist countries or have roots in communist countries, China, Cuba, Venezuela. I mean, you go to South Florida and Cubans are terrified

• 19:23Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 19:23Speaker 02

  that the US is gonna wind up like Cuba. And a lot of the, a lot of the people of Chinese descent that I talk to too are terrified that the US is, is starting to turn into communism in some way, shape, or form. And so I'm just curious, how did you, what was the path to becoming a Democrat? Are your parents Democrats?

• 19:47Speaker 03

  No, they weren't even really political.

• 19:49Speaker 02

  They're not political?

• 19:50Speaker 03

  Well, I grew up in suburban Pennsylvania and that was Democratic. So my local congressman actually was a veteran named Joe Sestak. Have you heard of him? He was a three-star admiral.

• 20:02Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 20:02Speaker 03

  And so it was almost by default. I interned for him starting at age 13, and then it was Obama. He was elected when I was 17 years old, so I was fully indoctrinated. I went to Princeton. It's like a very, very liberal bastion. Being a conservative there was

• 20:23Speaker 03

  a blemish. You just couldn't. I can think of like two conservatives, two Republicans. It was just not a thing you could do. It was the age of Obama. People were enthralled by him. So it wasn't an option to be a Democrat. I actually didn't realize until recently that I could be a Republican. And let me remind you, I live in Philadelphia, where there's this eight to one voter registration difference. It's not okay to be a Republican. You're ostracized. I've lost all my friends, Sean. Friends. They were fake. I mean, I actually had someone b-reating me, someone whom I thought was a friend. He was texting me. He basically said, "How could you?"

• 21:05Speaker 03

  You don't, you can never reply to questions like that. So in my Instagram story, I replied to everybody. It was like, "Shaming me isn't gonna change a single thing."

• 21:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 21:15Speaker 03

  But, yeah, Sean, I've lost-

• 21:17Speaker 02

  So you kinda got groomed into it.

• 21:20Speaker 03

  It just, yeah, there was no other option.

• 21:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 21:23Speaker 03

  There were no other Republicans. Like, where were they? I, I lived in the collar counties of Pennsylvania, they're all Democrats.

• 21:29Speaker 02

  Yeah. Okay, and so, so you in, you interned at thirteen?

• 21:35Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm, I'm kind of weird. I had a really difficult childhood.

• 21:39Speaker 02

  You did?

• 21:40Speaker 03

  I did, yeah.

• 21:41Speaker 02

  How so?

• 21:47Speaker 03

  It's just tough being an immigrant kid. I love my parents, but it was tough. It was really tough. I, um,

• 21:57Speaker 03

  English is my second language. It's my parents' second language. I, I survived childhood by playing Chopin and Tchaikovsky and Liszt and Mozart and Beethoven on the piano for hours on end. That is how I survived. And like, um, who said it? Was it Nietzsche or somebody else? Somebody said it. Was it Nietzsche? He said, "Without music, life would be a mistake." And I survived by hanging on to music.

• 22:28Speaker 02

  Okay, okay.

• 22:29Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 22:30Speaker 02

  So, how did, so how did you, so you interned at thirteen?

• 22:35Speaker 03

  And that went on. It wasn't just thirteen, it was like thirteen, fourteen, like entire time. It started then.

• 22:40Speaker 02

  So you had, you had interest in politics at age thirteen?

• 22:44Speaker 03

  Absolutely. Actually, and you know the people who guided me? It was a guy named Bill Walsh. He was also a veteran. He was, he was part of the Navy. And he, even today, when I started exposing the Democrats and their corruption, he sent, he, he continually sends me messages saying how he's still proud of me. This is a Navy that, you know, um, you guys have always had my back. It's just, um, so yeah, I've, I've always wanted to make, I had to change the world.

• 23:14Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 23:15Speaker 03

  Do you understand? You're one of those who, I can tell. You just, you just got to.

• 23:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:20Speaker 03

  A normal life would be the greatest,

• 23:24Speaker 03

  it would be the worst for you.

• 23:27Speaker 02

  Be kind of boring.

• 23:28Speaker 03

  It would be the worst.

• 23:29Speaker 02

  A lot of people like boring.

• 23:30Speaker 03

  I can't.

• 23:31Speaker 02

  You know, but so then you move on age twenty four. You run for Congress.

• 23:37Speaker 03

  I was an investment banker at that time, Morgan Stanley.

• 23:40Speaker 02

  You were an investment banker?

• 23:41Speaker 03

  Yes, Morgan Stanley.

• 23:42Speaker 02

  And then you ran for Congress.

• 23:43Speaker 03

  Yeah, I hated Wall Street. It was so empty. I started, um. People just didn't really give a shit about anything but money.

• 23:50Speaker 02

  Mm hmm. And then, how did you get involved? In the White House?

• 23:58Speaker 03

  Oh, I think I skipped a major part. Well, I was the first woman at Princeton to be elected president all four years. And that gave me the confidence to do whatever I wanted. Like, I just knew that I. So at age seventeen, I was knocking on hundreds of doors and getting rejected and, you know. Spit on and vilified, but that gave me the resilience to just keep going. And let me tell you, you know Steve Carell? He was a graduation speaker that day for my graduation. It was raining. It's online. Um, on graduation day, the dean of the university told me not to give my speech because of the rain. I told Steve that. I said, they're not gonna get, let me give my speech. I've been, I've waited for this year for four years.

• 24:39Speaker 03

  And Steve told me, you're on live TV. If you go up, they can't pull you back down. Um, so that's what I did.

• 24:48Speaker 02

  Nice.

• 24:48Speaker 03

  That day, I had won reelection as alumni president, so they had to call me up. And when I went up, I gave my whole speech. Whole speech, not a word. Not a word except, uh, um, missing. Um, and Steve was right. And I got a standing ovation because of that speech. And that was the moment I knew I was born to do this. This is what I was.

• 25:11Speaker 03

  This is what I was put on this earth to do.

• 25:13Speaker 02

  Nice. And so how did, how did you get involved in the White House? How'd you get connected there?

• 25:18Speaker 03

  With the Biden White House?

• 25:19Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 25:21Speaker 03

  Well, I was also involved with the Clintons and this is a long time coming. This is like a decade. So, um.

• 25:32Speaker 03

  Wow, I've I've been involved with the DNC for like a decade.

• 25:37Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 25:37Speaker 03

  So people realize that I was able to deliver. I was a huge fundraiser. I helped with Pennsylvania. I'm a commissioner. The governor appointed me a commissioner of the Commonwealth. I'm really involved with him, Governor Shapiro. I raised millions of dollars for members of Congress. People like Senator Duckworth, who was also a vet. She, I know she came down hard against Hegseth. But I do want to give credit where credit is due. On a human level, she's a really decent person. You can choose not to believe me, but she is a decent person. And I'm sorry that she was so harsh on Pete. I cringed too.

• 26:15Speaker 02

  So were you the primary fundraiser for the Biden Harris campaign?

• 26:20Speaker 03

  I was one of the top. I was the youngest member on their National Finance Committee.

• 26:23Speaker 02

  How much money did you raise?

• 26:25Speaker 03

  Tens of millions.

• 26:26Speaker 02

  Tens of millions of dollars.

• 26:27Speaker 03

  Tens of millions. And that includes a super PAC as well. There's a super PAC which raised about 1.5 billion.

• 26:34Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 26:34Speaker 03

  It's called Future Forward, and they totally fucked up. They should have responded to the trans ad. But they kind of just let Trump have it. And he's right. I don't want a president who wants to fund gender reassignment surgery for prisoners. Do you?

• 26:48Speaker 02

  No.

• 26:49Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 26:51Speaker 02

  Definitely not. But so I want to I want to get into kind of the meat of why you're here. Biden's cognitive decline. And so you're basically coming out and saying that the cover up of Joe Biden's cognitive decline, basically, it's it's not. It's not a conspiracy. He was declining, correct?

• 27:16Speaker 03

  The conspiracy was a cover up.

• 27:18Speaker 02

  Mm hmm.

• 27:18Speaker 03

  That is conspiracy. And it was a years long conspiracy, and it started escalating in 2022. His situation got seriously worse. I was on the trail with him in 2019. I went to San Francisco. I was actually within the day after the debate. Do you remember when Kamala claimed I'm a racist? Do you remember that, Glenn?

• 27:38Speaker 02

  No, but you know, I'm.

• 27:41Speaker 02

  I remember in 2020 and in parts of 2019, you know, I don't really, I don't watch any legacy media anymore. But at the time I did because, you know, COVID was rampant, obviously. It was the start of it. So everybody's glued, you know, what's going on, what's happening? And at the same time, the, you know, the debates were getting ready to fire up. And I remember Fox kept saying over and over again that this guy, you know, is, he's not with it. Nobody's at the wheel. Nobody's driving this train. This is, this is basically just describing what we now we all know is true. But I didn't buy into it.

• 28:22Speaker 02

  I was like, ah, this has to be, this has to be way over embellished. There's no way somebody would be running for president. And then I remember watching the first debate with my wife and I saw him come up and I saw him struggling to put a sentence together and I was like, holy shit. This is real. And, and so, you know, I didn't understand how anybody bought off on it from the first debate. I can't even remember exactly what he said. We're going to roll some of the clips, uh, during the interview of, of, of how that went. But, I mean, I, I thought it was very apparent right at the very get go, debate one, that he, he wasn't with it.

• 29:07Speaker 02

  And so, when did you notice?

• 29:08Speaker 06

  Making sure that we're able to make every single solitary person eligible for what I've been able to do with the, uh, with, with the COVID, excuse me, with, um, dealing with everything we have to do with, uh, look, if we finally beat Medicare.

• 29:29Speaker 00

  Thank you, President Biden. President Trump?

• 29:31Speaker 07

  Well, he's right. He did beat Medicare. He beat it to death and he's destroying Medicare.

• 29:36Speaker 03

  Sean, I have to say that.

• 29:40Speaker 03

  Again, I'm unlike the Democrats, I will take responsibility. In 2019, when the debates were happening, and into 2020, I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. He told me that it was a stutter and a speech impediment. So I was like, okay, all right, maybe it is. Maybe it gets worse with age. I'll extend him grace. And this is a guy who showed me tremendous kindness. I actually met him not through politics. I met him because I was a trustee of the American Association for Cancer Research. I met him in 2016. Okay, so I'd known him when I was 25. And because he showed me kindness then, I believed him.

• 30:25Speaker 03

  Like, I decided to, okay, maybe he just is tripping over his words. But this is a guy who still has control of his mental faculties. So in 2019, 2020, I didn't really think it was an issue. It just didn't really occur to me. And I wasn't watching Fox then. So it wasn't a narrative that I was exposed to.

• 30:43Speaker 02

  You didn't see slow decision making or inability to put, I mean, you chalk that up.

• 30:49Speaker 03

  He remembered my dad's name at that point, which I thought was impressive because most people wouldn't. Like, and it wasn't, he doesn't like hang out with my dad. He just met him once. So I thought it was impressive. Maybe it was just good luck on his part that he happened to remember that my dad's name is Richard.

• 31:04Speaker 02

  So, I mean, and then, you know, I want to, you were a big fundraiser for the campaign too. So I wanted to, let's dive into a little bit of the campaign. You know, back then, you know, there were all these, Trump had thousands of people showing up. Biden wasn't really, he didn't have anybody showing up.

• 31:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, and I want to bring your, I don't think people realize this. In May 2019, when he was running for president the first time, I remember talking to our friend and saying, there's more press here than actual attendees. Like, what's going on here? This is in the middle of Philadelphia. It's a hugely democratic city.

• 31:44Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 31:45Speaker 03

  The turnout should be much more robust than this. I thought it was just because it was hot that day. Like, Sean, I realize now that I was making so many excuses for him, but I really, when someone is your friend, you really just want to give him the benefit of the doubt. But at some point, you realize that reality is just way too discordant with the narrative that they're presenting. So around 2021, 2022, I was like, okay, this is getting to be a little bit ridiculous.

• 32:18Speaker 03

  And I was-

• 32:19Speaker 02

  What was it that you saw? What did you see that was getting ridiculous?

• 32:24Speaker 03

  I would be at private events and he would have a teleprompter at private events with like 10 people. This is not a major speech. And at private events where everybody wanted him to succeed, it wasn't, it wasn't an aggressive crowd. This is like a crowd of his top donors. Not only that, you would have Jamie Harrison, the DNC chair, pre-selecting questions and telling us, telling the rest of us basically to shut up. We weren't allowed to talk. And confiscating our phones.

• 32:54Speaker 02

  Confiscating your phones.

• 32:56Speaker 03

  They confiscated my phone. Not only that, somebody, and he knows who he is.

• 33:01Speaker 02

  Who is he?

• 33:02Speaker 03

  He's, well, he's, he's Asian. He was, they know who it is. I, he's no longer there, but-

• 33:08Speaker 02

  We're here to drop names, Lindy.

• 33:09Speaker 03

  He's not important enough to drop, you know? He's like the civilian. He was big. If it's, if it's important person, I will, like I do with Jamie. And I'm sure it came down from Jamie. He specifically asked me never to tweet anything about any of these events, never to post any pictures, never to post any Instagram stories. I had posted an Instagram story from a dinner with Biden. He pulled me aside very angrily and told me to take it down. It wasn't even a video, it was a picture. That's how, that's how tightly wound the operation got to be.

• 33:45Speaker 02

  Why did they prop him up? Why was it him?

• 33:48Speaker 03

  Because the alternative for them was so dire. The alternative for them for would have been Kamala Harris and they thought she was such a shitty candidate that they had to prop him up. And so it's just so ironic to me that within days she became the second coming of Jesus. Like everyone thought she was, they didn't hate her, they just thought so little of her. Do you understand? Like they just didn't think she was capable of,

• 34:16Speaker 03

  you know, litigating a campaign and they were right, but um.

• 34:19Speaker 02

  And none of the other candidates would have been.

• 34:22Speaker 03

  The thing about that, and I know.

• 34:24Speaker 02

  Was it Tulsi?

• 34:27Speaker 03

  Tulsi about that time had gone off the reservation. She was in, to her credit, she left knowing that the entire thing was rotten. She left. That was good. Good on, good on her. But people wanted to run against Biden and I don't, um, they're not going to tell you publicly, but I'm going to tell you right now. They commissioned polls because they wanted to run against Biden, but given his name ID, no one could beat him. So pre-debate Biden was still stronger than Shapiro, still stronger than Newsom, Whitmer, Harris, Buttigieg. Right? So if they could have, they would have, but they couldn't. And the only dude who actually did, Dean Phillips was a total like loser and no one knew who he was. He had like zero name ID.

• 35:13Speaker 03

  But let me tell you amongst the donor class, no one wanted a second Biden term. Nobody did. And so Jeff Katzenberg, Jeff Katzenberg, the DreamWorks dude. He was the architect behind everything. He would invite top donors to the Oval Office and do tours and not ask for money in the White House. But the undertone was so abundantly clear, like come on, like, why do you think you're invited? And um, everyone who was invited on these tours was expected to write the max check, which is like $938,000. That's the, that's the FEC limit. One person can give $938,000.

• 35:56Speaker 03

  Any, but that's the limit for the campaign, but all bets are off for the super PAC. You can give as much as you want.

• 36:03Speaker 02

  So, so back to, what, what, what was it that, I mean, was it a, was it one event that you witnessed that, that you realized, and I think you said 2022 is when you started to see?

• 36:14Speaker 03

  Twenty, late 2021, um, 2022. I hosted, things became like undeniable in 2023, and that's actually when I started leaking to the press. This is the first time I said that. But yeah, I started leaking to the press, and you will see some, some of my background quotes in articles, um, with a political reporter named Holly Otterbean. I tried, I basically said, you know, this is crazy. This is nuts. He's not in any shape or form capable.

• 36:48Speaker 02

  I mean, what was it, though? I mean, we saw him falling down the steps of Air Force One. We saw him fall off his bike. We saw him, we saw him go past Secret Service or the Marines or whatever, or just, just like, oh, I forgot the White House doors over here, and just kept walking.

• 37:04Speaker 03

  And how he fell up the steps, like, fell up the steps.

• 37:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 37:07Speaker 03

  Saw that. But I was raising the red flag before all of that because of his inability to formulate thoughts. Um, and also,

• 37:20Speaker 03

  the truth of the matter is that for the past four years, the White House has been run by his senior advisers and Jill Biden.

• 37:27Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. We'll get to that. We'll get to that.

• 37:30Speaker 03

  And I will name the senior advisers.

• 37:32Speaker 02

  But what, we, we will get to that. But, I mean, did you have a lot of personal intera- interaction with him while he was in?

• 37:39Speaker 03

  And that's why it was so hard because, Sean, please don't judge me, but I'm here to be honest, and I love the man. I still do because he was so kind to me, and I want to make it very clear, this is not personal for me right now. This is our country, and the American people.

• 37:58Speaker 03

  It's so ironic that people are now blasting Elon for not being elected. But you know who else wasn't elected? The senior advisers who were running our country for the past four years while our president was just not present.

• 38:14Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. So what were these interactions like? Walk me through one. Walk me through the first one where you-

• 38:20Speaker 03

  Oh, my gosh, I have a perfect one, actually. I, um, he had given a speech and they usually put me in the front row so he could easily see me afterwards. He, you know, usually would greet me like, "Lindy", he would remember my name. But one time he said, "Tell your husband I said hi."

• 38:38Speaker 03

  Shaun, I don't have a husband.

• 38:48Speaker 03

  I just remember, um-

• 38:52Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 38:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, and he knows that.

• 38:56Speaker 02

  What are some more?

• 38:58Speaker 03

  Um, I, I am, I do think it's kind of like, maybe it's just a quirk that he did remember my dad's name. Maybe it's, I don't, I don't know why he just always did. Uh, maybe it was just a one-off thing, um.

• 39:14Speaker 03

  It wasn't even the personal interactions that raised the flag. It's the way that he had, the way that he couldn't answer basic questions that were already prescreened by the party. And I would just be waiting with bated breath for him to finish the sentence because he couldn't finish it. Like matters of basic American policy and how, for example, he would shit on our allies at private events. Like he called our ally Japan xenophobic. Japan is a critical ally.

• 39:48Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 39:48Speaker 03

  FYI, like in case you didn't know. Th- this is an American president vilifying our ally just offhandedly because he forgot or whatever that you weren't supposed to do that. These are just like basic things you shouldn't be doing. Like, right? It's just, um- Um, he just didn't have it together and.

• 40:11Speaker 02

  Were you part of the prep team?

• 40:12Speaker 03

  No, I'm, no, I'm not. I, I'm actually, I'm proudly not part of the prep team because they failed the country.

• 40:19Speaker 02

  And they would run him through these questions, I'm sure, time and time again, before he actually gives a speech or has an event, correct?

• 40:26Speaker 03

  Right, and the people around Bob Bauer, Ron Klain, his chief of staff, his first chief of staff, these are the people who are largely responsible um for his prep or lack of prep or inability to absorb the information. And they had to, you know, so he really liked handouts, like printed material, and everything on his printed material would be really big and graphic and colored and there would, there would be signs, like, "Stand here" or like, "Exit stage left." Everything would be abundantly clear, like, it would be like for kinder- kindergartner.

• 41:03Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 41:04Speaker 03

  Um, and also you could tell that the president wasn't fully present because he completely neglected the people who put him there. Uh, this is just the messy part of politics, and Trump is great at that. He's great at taking care of his friends, and you need to do that because that's just the essence of politics. You had dozens of top donors, dozens of top supporters who were writing into the Oval Office saying, "What the fuck is happening? Why are we being completely ignored?" People who are still angry to this day that they were ignored by them Biden White House. Um, because the president wasn't there. He just wasn't. And so you had a bunch of twenty, thirty old staffers running the show. Not only that,

• 41:52Speaker 03

  these staffers are basically nerds who are reliving their high school days by living out their fantasies in the most powerful residence in the world. And what I mean by that is they commandeered the White House Social Office and the, the, the coveted list, the invite list. They would invite all their own friends instead of inviting Biden or Harris's friends. And so they commandeered the White House Social Secretary list for their own benefit, political gain, rather than doing, you know, executing the wishes of the president. And it got to be a serious issue that I helped to raise. We eventually rectified it. But you had a bunch of like me- millennials and Gen Zers running the show.

• 42:35Speaker 02

  Wow, so.

• 42:38Speaker 03

  And you can tell, you can tell by looking at the photos, it was the same group of people over and over again, the same cabal of far-left influencers.

• 42:47Speaker 02

  Geez. So there was like, nobody at the wheel.

• 42:54Speaker 02

  Running this country.

• 42:55Speaker 03

  The senior advisors, and do you want me to name them?

• 42:59Speaker 02

  In a minute, in a minute. But, what I want to ask is, how did they, did they intimidate you not to leak? You had mentioned-

• 43:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, they did, they did. Well, you remember with the policing of the photos and the... I was really, you know, I had raised like a million dollars for the event at which they told me I couldn't post anything, and where they confiscated my phone, they put it in a Ziploc bag?

• 43:25Speaker 03

  And they didn't pull anybody else aside, they pulled me aside. I was really struck by that, and, um...

• 43:33Speaker 03

  But that was minor compared to what happened eventually. I, it got to the point, this is after the debate, it got to the point where it's like, okay, I really need to do something, not just to save the party, but to save the country, because Biden is in no way, shape, or form capable of being commander in chief. I told Shannon Bream from Fox News Sunday that I wanted to say this on the record. Politico publishes the names of the people who go on Fox News Sunday the evening before. And I guess they check that every night, um, the White House checks that every night. They called me the night of July 20th, and I have, I have the receipts on my phone, because I texted somebody.

• 44:17Speaker 02

  Can we see them?

• 44:18Speaker 03

  I'm gonna show you right now, actually.

• 44:19Speaker 02

  We'll put them up on screen.

• 44:21Speaker 03

  Can we cover the person's name that I'm texting?

• 44:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, you can airdrop it to us and we'll put it up on screen.

• 44:28Speaker 03

  But let me show you now. Um... So you know...

• 44:35Speaker 03

  Do you see the date, July 20th?

• 44:39Speaker 03

  The White House just called to babysit me?

• 44:42Speaker 02

  Can I read it?

• 44:43Speaker 03

  Oh, oh wait, leave out any private parts, I didn't, did I say anything private?

• 44:48Speaker 02

  No.

• 44:51Speaker 02

  Are you still free to chat? Maybe text, long day. Okay. This may be the most important day of my life. I still haven't fully figured out how to navigate telling the truth about Biden. Learning, in parentheses, earning Fox's favor. And covering for the Biden, in parentheses, earning the White House's. The White House called me today to babysit me. I got the message. They said that I am the biggest offender of the president's. Yikes. What was the message? To hold the line, stay loyal. And in exchange? Can I go down?

• 45:30Speaker 03

  I don't, wait, hold on.

• 45:34Speaker 02

  I didn't even tell them, but Politico and Fox announced my appearance. Fox has been promoting it. They even cut an ad.

• 45:42Speaker 02

  I also have other issues.

• 45:44Speaker 03

  Yeah, so? Do you understand what's going on here?

• 45:48Speaker 02

  Tell us.

• 45:49Speaker 03

  They called me the night before Fox News Sunday saying, it was like a Tony Soprano move. Stay loyal. We know that you're the president's biggest supporter.

• 45:59Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 46:01Speaker 03

  It was the friendliest threat.

• 46:03Speaker 02

  So what do you think they would have done? What, what? I mean, it's pretty vague.

• 46:07Speaker 03

  Done. I've been banned from every event.

• 46:12Speaker 03

  I...

• 46:13Speaker 02

  Did you?

• 46:15Speaker 02

  I mean? So what I don't understand is?

• 46:20Speaker 02

  In essence, I think most Americans, country comes first, not party. Correct? And so? How many people? Inside the Democratic Party? Put the party over the country?

• 46:36Speaker 03

  Ninety-nine point ninety-nine percent.

• 46:39Speaker 02

  So pretty much all of them?

• 46:40Speaker 03

  Everybody. I mean, they see, I am the guinea pig.

• 46:44Speaker 02

  Why? Why, why? Why are they s- Why is the party more important than the country?

• 46:49Speaker 03

  Because it's a religion for them. They, they don't have a religion, so it's become their religion. Wow, that's the first time I've- I think that's really it. It's their entire lives. Sean, I'm telling you, I lost all my friends. I have nobody left other than my, you know, actual friends. They've all left me. I used to get texts from senators, members of Congress on a daily basis. Or even especially on holidays, I would get gifts in the mail. I got nothing this year. I got banned by the White House Holiday Party. I used to go to the VIP Naval Observatory Party. I got banned by all of that. I got banned from calls. And what did I do? Like, I, I would, I'm,

• 47:29Speaker 03

  I was treated worse than a low-life criminal. And I'm someone who's never, I don't even drink alcohol. Like, I've never, I've never done anything. I live the most straight edge life and they treat me like I'm some like crack dealer.

• 47:44Speaker 02

  And what, what year was that? July twenty-two, July twenty-second or what year?

• 47:48Speaker 03

  Twenty twenty, twenty twenty-four.

• 47:50Speaker 02

  Twenty twenty-four?

• 47:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 47:52Speaker 02

  How long did you want to come out before that?

• 47:54Speaker 03

  I already did. I told you that I was leaking to the press. Like, you can tell who, you can read my quotes if you just Google Holly Otterbean's political articles. I'm on background numerous times saying that Biden is too old to run. And there are members of Congress and senators who would tell me that Biden is too old to run, but they didn't have the guts to say so. And one of them who told me that Biden was too old to run, ended up being the chair of his campaign.

• 48:27Speaker 02

  Jeez. So they have no courage whatsoever?

• 48:31Speaker 03

  No courage. But they see what happens when you do have courage.

• 48:37Speaker 03

  I lost every, I lost everything.

• 48:40Speaker 02

  What did you start leaking to the press?

• 48:42Speaker 03

  Twenty twenty-two.

• 48:43Speaker 02

  What did you start leaking to the press?

• 48:44Speaker 03

  The Biden was in, Biden couldn't run again.

• 48:48Speaker 02

  Did you give specific examples?

• 48:51Speaker 03

  Um, they didn't. I think if I were, if I did, it would identify me. And at that point, I wasn't, it's, it's really hard to, it's like coming out of a cult. You just can't. It's really hard. They will, it's like coming out of the Church of Scientology. They will do everything to discredit you, just own you, um, to destroy you.

• 49:13Speaker 03

  Sean.

• 49:18Speaker 03

  I hope my parents aren't gonna, I hope my parents aren't gonna watch this and I'm, I'm just gonna hope for the best here. But let me tell you, this has been one of the hardest periods of my life. And, um, it's been so stressful for me. I no longer,

• 49:43Speaker 03

  I, I, sorry, I, I no longer, I no longer, I've, I have health issues because of this.

• 49:52Speaker 03

  I can't, I can't bring myself to say, but maybe someone can, someone can understand. It's been so hard. Like what, people call me a grifter and I, and that I earn money by doing this. I'm asking like, who paid me for this? Like you tell me. Like where are my pay stubs? Who do you think paid me? Fox didn't pay me. Who paid me? Are you paying me?

• 50:16Speaker 02

  I'm not paying.

• 50:16Speaker 03

  No one's paying me. And so how am I a grifter when I'm exposing the actual grifters? The people who actually lied to the American people?

• 50:24Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. Well, how was the, how did the press receive the information? I mean, it wasn't just DC the problem.

• 50:32Speaker 03

  They chased after me. They were very happy to get my quotes.

• 50:35Speaker 02

  They were?

• 50:36Speaker 03

  Very happy, yeah. And they agreed with me. The entire, like Politico, um, ABC News, all of these outfits I would work with. Everyone thought that Biden was unfit. I, I don't know a single person who thinks that Biden was fit to run. I, I don't. Other than James Clyburn, who like really drinks the Kool-Aid. I, I don't know of a single person.

• 50:59Speaker 02

  Man, I mean, it took a long time for him to admit that. I mean, which is heard time and time again. I mean, didn't his doctors say, oh, he's the best press fit president ever? And, I mean, who were his doctors?

• 51:10Speaker 03

  Let me tell you something else. Um, Jen O'Malley Dillon, his campaign chair, right? After the debate, she calls me and a few other donors. I'm in my 30s. I'm a marathon runner. I'm vegan. I live a very healthy life. She tells us on the phone call,

• 51:30Speaker 03

  she literally says, Biden is healthier than all of you. Don't worry about it.

• 51:38Speaker 03

  And I, we were, it was a Zoom call and I was texting other people on the call saying, "What the fuck? What, did you just hear what she said? Like, does she think, like, is she stupid? Does she think we're stupid? How could she possibly say something like that?

• 51:53Speaker 03

  And this is the same Jen O'Malley Dillon who issued that press release on election night saying that Kamala still had a path to victory. I was like, "Oh, my God, these people are just completely just...

• 52:05Speaker 03

  They're just, they've lost it."

• 52:07Speaker 02

  I mean, as far as cognitive decline goes, I mean, it's not just a Democrat issue. It's also a Republican issue. I mean, look at McConnell. Spaces out, time after time again, doesn't know where he's at. Evan Strokes on camera. Feinstein died in office. I mean, am I missing? There's, there's probably more. Who am I missing? But, so, I mean, it was the president and I think that they definitely...

• 52:36Speaker 03

  Stakes are so much higher with the president.

• 52:38Speaker 02

  But, I mean...

• 52:39Speaker 03

  It was a weekend at Bernie's situation.

• 52:41Speaker 02

  Jeez.

• 52:44Speaker 02

  Jeez. So what, so you didn't get any pushback from, from the left-leaning media? They, they wanted, they, they were, you were feeding them and they were chasing after you?

• 52:54Speaker 03

  There was no pushback, yeah.

• 52:56Speaker 02

  And what year did that start? That was also in 2024? Or 2022?

• 53:02Speaker 03

  As soon as I realized. I felt like I had a responsibility to at least tell somebody. Like, if I wasn't gonna come out and use my face, I was, I needed to say something.

• 53:10Speaker 02

  What outlets gave you the most?

• 53:13Speaker 03

  Politico.

• 53:14Speaker 02

  Politico?

• 53:14Speaker 03

  Yeah. Um, I think, yeah. Politico, Washington Post,

• 53:25Speaker 03

  ABC News, MSNBC, CNN. I worked with all of them. I've been blackballed by all of them now, too.

• 53:33Speaker 02

  Why are you blackballed? They were chasing after you and now they have blackballed.

• 53:36Speaker 03

  Because I dared to ask questions about the Harris campaign.

• 53:42Speaker 03

  They, uh, someone high up at MSNBC left a comment on my Instagram the other day calling me nasty.

• 53:51Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 53:54Speaker 03

  Yeah, um.

• 53:58Speaker 02

  So, does the Democrat Party pay these outlets? How are they controlled?

• 54:08Speaker 03

  Sean, I forgot to tell you an actual, actually, pretty important fact. So after I exposed Biden's cognitive decline on Fox News Sunday,

• 54:20Speaker 03

  they called me the night before, I already told you, they called me afterwards too. I didn't pick up. And they called me three times angrily. I, I never, I don't pick up, but I can probably guess what they were gonna say. They weren't, they weren't happy. And that woman who called me, she was a woman, who ended up being high up in the communica-, she became high up in the Harris campaign and became a communications person for Harris. I think she was yanking me off of MSNBC every time I was about to go on and they put on Ian Sams instead. The first time it happened, I was like, okay, that's just really bad luck on my part, I'll just write it off. But it kept happening. It happened

• 55:02Speaker 03

  five times and I've documented it. Every time I would announce I was going on MSNBC, moments later, I would get yanked. And it would always be the same person who replaced me and it'd be the White House spokesperson, Ian Sams. And so, I, I remember, I remember calling my mom. I was like, what is going on here? Like, the first time, okay, the second time, there was a pattern and it kept happening. It got to the point where I no longer announced any of my appearances because I would summarily get yanked. I would get an email from MSNBC saying, hold up, either the White House or the Harris campaign has somebody else. We can't do you today, we're sorry.

• 55:44Speaker 03

  And so, it never happened to me before I blew the whistle on the age thing, but it happened so many times afterwards and it, it's like... It's so hard on you. It's really hard, you know, and it's humiliating. It's, I felt like shit. I felt awful.

• 56:03Shawn Ryan?

  Man, I'm gonna ask you again, or I didn't ask you, but what, what, what health issues are you having from all the stress and all the blowback coming back from the Democratic Party?

• 56:16Speaker 03

  I really hope my parents aren't watching these. They're strict Asians. I don't get my period.

• 56:29Speaker 03

  It's like a psychosomatic thing, so you can't be in a, you can't be in a survival mode.

• 56:37Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 56:38Shawn Ryan?

  I'm sorry to hear that.

• 56:40Speaker 03

  Well, hopefully, um, hopefully I'll get it back. Sorry, that's too much TMI.

• 56:48Shawn Ryan?

  Well, um, let's take a quick break, and then when we come back, I want to talk about who is actually running the White House.

• 56:55Speaker 03

  Sounds good. Thank you.

• 56:59Shawn Ryan?

  I know everybody out there has to be just as frustrated as I am when it comes to the BS and the rhetoric that the mainstream media continuously tries to force-feed us. And I also know how frustrating it can be to try to find some type of a reliable news source. It's getting really hard to find the truth in what's going on in the country and in the world. And so one thing we've done here at Sean Ryan Show is we are developing our newsletter. And the first contributor to the newsletter that we have is a woman, former CIA targeter. Some of you may know her as Sarah Adams, call sign Superbad. She's made two different appearances here on the Sean Ryan Show.

• 57:43Shawn Ryan?

  And some of the stuff that she has uncovered and broke on this show is just absolutely mind-blowing. And so I've asked her if she would...

• 57:56Speaker 02

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• 58:41Speaker 02

  All right, Lindy, we're back from the break. We're gonna get into some names here, bud. You know, just on the, what, 10-minute break that we took, guess what? Mitch McConnell fell down the stairs again. My producer Jeremy just found it on Twitter, right? So, dude, this is a huge problem. This is a huge problem.

• 59:01Speaker 03

  The United States is a gerontocracy.

• 59:02Speaker 02

  What? I ju- I don't know what... How do people keep voting this shit in? It's just, it's just mind-blowing on, on either side. It just doesn't make any damn sense to me at all.

• 59:16Speaker 03

  It's name ID and it's money, the power of money. It's very alluring. It's really hard to go up against the hundreds of millions of dollars that Mitch McConnell can array time and time again. And that's how much it costs to run for senate nowadays.

• 59:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, but you see that, you see it here, you see, right now. You can do a podcast for free and we crush the numbers of mainstream media. It's ridiculous.

• 59:37Speaker 03

  That's why you're changing the game. Like, in the past couple of years, you guys have redefined what it means to be a politician's voting, where you need to be. Kamala Harris fucked up because she didn't go on your podcast, because she didn't go on Joe's podcast, and now they realize, too late. But you guys, you were right, you redefined the game in recent years, and it's gonna be different. That the power is shifting away from cable TV to people like you.

• 1:00:04Speaker 02

  I'm just trying to humanize the candidate, find out who exactly they are, where they grew up, what their, what their actual values are, and it's, I think it's hard to, it's hard to hide that in a two, three-hour interview, even an hour-long interview.

• 1:00:18Speaker 03

  Exactly. You got things out of me that I would never have offered on cable TV. There's just no way I would've.

• 1:00:25Speaker 02

  Tell me about Beyonce.

• 1:00:28Speaker 03

  Despite her repeated denials, Beyonce was paid.

• 1:00:31Speaker 02

  Who was she paid by?

• 1:00:33Speaker 03

  The Harris campaign. She was paid tens of thousands of dollars to not sing. Well, no, she refused to sing. She was paid tens of thousands of dollars to give a speech that no one wanted to hear. And Kamala Harris thought all these people came out to Texas to hear her speak. Yeah, right. They came to hear Beyonce sing. And you know what? This is the second time they failed to deliver Beyonce. The first time was at the DNC. They promised that Beyonce would perform. Beyonce did not perform. Um, so that was let down number one. Let down number two.

• 1:01:09Speaker 03

  They went to Texas to prop up this candidate who could never beat Ted Cruz, Colin Alred. And they promised, they told NBC News that Beyonce would perform. Beyonce came out and gave this speech, this boring ass speech, and just left without performing. And then Kamala Harris got booed. She got drowned in booze. Um, because people didn't really care what she had to say. They were there to hear Queen B. Um, so that was number one. Beyonce was paid, show up. Cardi B was paid. Okay? Cardi B, who famously said she wasn't paid, her production company was paid to show up. Katy Perry was paid. Christina Aguilera was paid.

• 1:01:54Speaker 03

  These people were all paid. And Oprah wasn't paid a million. She was paid two million. Okay, let's be very clear.

• 1:02:01Speaker 02

  Two million?

• 1:02:01Speaker 03

  Two million dollars to Harpo Productions. Who owns Harpo Productions? Flip Harpo backwards, it spells out Oprah. It's Oprah's production company, was paid two million dollars to put on that town hall.

• 1:02:17Speaker 03

  In which, um, Meryl Streep calls her Mrs. Madame President. It was a love fest for Kamala Harris. Um, so Oprah was paid two million and who else? Al Sharpton was paid half a million dollars moments before he interviewed her, okay? An MSNBC anchor, Al Sharpton was paid money. A so-called journalist was paid money moments before he interviewed the Vice President. People like Roland Martin, who are attacking me now. He was paid three hundred and fifty thousand dollars to interview Kamala. Advertising costs, okay? Advertising costs, wink, wink. To interview Kamala Harris.

• 1:03:01Speaker 03

  Um, the Pennsylvania Democratic Party was paid twenty-five million dollars after the chair raised hell for not being paid enough street money. Street money is just a boondoggle. It's a cauldron of corruption. They just hand out money to board leaders. And so this is how donor money was spent. Donor money was spent was, donor money was basically set on fire for five-star hotels, um, luxury trips, private, you know, charter planes, just this ridiculous stuff. And a lot of these donors are hard-working Americans. I had people giving anywhere from ten to fifteen dollars, all the way to a million dollars.

• 1:03:45Speaker 03

  All of them worked hard for their money. If, and if they knew that their money was spent this way, they never would have given.

• 1:03:54Speaker 02

  You know, there's a lot of, uh, corruption coming out right now about USAID. Did they fund any of this campaign?

• 1:04:02Speaker 03

  I don't think they funded any of the Harris campaign, but you know, the Democrats are so pissed off and freaking out about USAID because that is, Trump got it. He hit it on the nail. That's where the corruption is. And we need to look into what happened with that missing Ukraine money. All those billions that were supposed to go over there and Zelensky said he never got it. What the hell happened to that money? Why are we funding transgender operas around the world? Why? Why are we funding DEI programs not only here at home, but across the globe? Someone's got to answer for it. And you can tell that we hit on the right, we hit the target by how angry they are.

• 1:04:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, man, I don't think there, I mean, what's it gonna take for the Democrat Party to to turn things around?

• 1:04:54Speaker 03

  Um, they have someone who wants to abolish the Second Amendment and ICE and who wants to defund the police running the party now, so I don't think they're gonna be out of the woods for the next ten to ten years. I think it's gonna be golden era for conservatives.

• 1:05:12Speaker 02

  I think they're gonna have to be honest with the American people and um, it meant a lot of faults and it's gonna take somebody really tough to turn that around, but.

• 1:05:22Speaker 03

  I don't see anyone on the horizon, do you? And I went down the list and I can, I can tell you why all of the people they have. One last thing I'll say, Obama, at this point in two thousand four, two thousand eight, everyone knew that Obama's gonna run for president because he had given that famous DNC speech in two thousand four. Now, a- and at this time in the cycle, there's no one of that stature, of that talent on the Democratic side, right? They just have no one waiting in the wings of that caliber.

• 1:05:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, it seems like all the moderates have switched. Before we, one, one other question, you know, we were talking, I brought up Biden's doctors and how they said that he's-

• 1:05:59Speaker 03

  Kevin O'Connor.

• 1:06:00Speaker 02

  What's his name?

• 1:06:00Speaker 03

  Kevin O'Connor.

• 1:06:01Speaker 02

  I've always wondered who it was, but, you know, there's a lot of people that think that he was basically doped up before he would get on TV or get on and give a speech or whatever. Is there any truth to that?

• 1:06:19Speaker 03

  I only want to tell you things that I saw with, I've seen with my own eyes. Um, I do know that he likely took something for the State of the Union.

• 1:06:29Speaker 02

  I was wondering, because I was there.

• 1:06:31Speaker 03

  Oh, really?

• 1:06:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was there for that and uh, he seemed sharp at the beginning and then.

• 1:06:39Speaker 03

  Hmm. Yeah.

• 1:06:41Speaker 02

  Kind of went downhill there towards the end.

• 1:06:44Speaker 03

  Um, like clockwork, all the Democrats are praising him to the high heavens for simply reading off the teleprompter. That's not a high bar to jump over, okay?

• 1:06:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:06:53Speaker 03

  Anyone can, anyone who has rudimentary understanding of English can read off a screen.

• 1:06:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:06:58Speaker 03

  It didn't require any impromptu thinking on his part.

• 1:07:01Speaker 02

  So any rumors of, I mean, you were in there. Were there any rumors of him getting doped up, Adderall?

• 1:07:08Speaker 03

  Oh, there were plenty of rumors, but I'm here to give you the facts. Like, everything I've said to you so far has been like proven, or I've seen it with my own two eyes. I've never seen him get doped up, but there were plenty of rumors that he would get doped up before every major event. Like, for example, after the debate, he went to North Carolina. It was basically, um, it was a life or death moment for his campaign. He had to prove that he was still ready to continue his race. The rumor was that he took something, you know, the night after the debate. He basically self, just self-destructed before the eyes of the whole world. So the next day, he had to prove that he could still keep going. And that's what we were told, that he got some sort of injection or whatever before

• 1:07:53Speaker 03

  he went onstage on, in North Carolina. But I wasn't there to see that, and I don't wanna, I can't say for sure, but, um...

• 1:08:01Speaker 02

  So even within the Democratic crowd, they knew something was going on?

• 1:08:06Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, absolutely, because it was night and day. His energy level, he would be like Pee-wee Herman in one moment, and then just be like Muhammad Gandhi the next, you know, like, it would just, it would just be night and day. His energy level, the delta between the two was just really significant. Um, yeah, it just, for example, the previous night, he was like, "We finally beat Medicare." And the next day, he was like hollering onstage. It's like two different people.

• 1:08:36Speaker 02

  Wow, wow. So, let's move into...

• 1:08:42Speaker 02

  Who was running, who was running the presidency for the last four years? A lot of people say it was Obama's third term. There's rumors of, you know, and these aren't even, these are friends of mine that are moderate Democrats say that they thought it was Elizabeth Warren running it. They thought it was Bernie Sanders running it. But I think the general consensus, I think if you asked, you know, the majority of the population, they think it was Obama's third term.

• 1:09:12Speaker 03

  It was for sure Obama's third term. I don't think that's even a question. I don't think anyone, it definitely was. And that's why you saw Obama fighting for his dear life. Why was he fighting so hard in the fall? Because he was fighting for his fourth term. He was fighting for his own legacy. The relationship between Obama and Biden is most reminiscent of that between LBJ and JFK. JFK had little respect for Lyndon B. Johnson, but he had him, he picked him anyway because he wanted to win the South. He wanted to win Texas. But he had very little respect for LBJ's intellect. JFK was surrounded by his Harvard brain trust. And he had immense disdain for LBJ's Texas Hill country vibe.

• 1:09:54Speaker 03

  And that was the same attitude that Obama had towards Biden. Obama thought that Biden would eventually fuck everything up. And that's eventually actually what happened. So, um, but also he didn't have much faith in Kamala Harris. Before she ascended to the top role, he was vetting people like Mark Kelly and Andy Beshear. Most people, most party chieftains didn't have Kamala Harris as their number one choice. But in the party of DEI, you can't skip a black woman. The optics would have been terrible.

• 1:10:33Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. So who, who was running it? Who are the names?

• 1:10:37Speaker 03

  Steve Rochetti, his senior advisor, Anita Dunn, Mike Donilon, Ron Klain, Jeff Zients, Bob Bauer, his personal lawyer, who's actually his personal lawyer, who actually leased a book, basically grifting off his relationship with the Bidens. I'm gonna get in so much trouble for saying all this. Please give me credit for. But these are the people who ran our country for the last four years.

• 1:11:03Speaker 02

  So let's go through each name for, for, for all of the audience. Not everybody is as tuned in with who's who in, in the political world.

• 1:11:12Speaker 03

  As a general overview, these are the people who made a living off of their connection with Biden. It's like, they were leeching off the Biden name for decades and all of them realized that they would never work for another president, so they had to ride the gravy train all the way through, you know?

• 1:11:32Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:11:33Speaker 03

  They would ride it to the very end. And that's why all of them refused, refused to concede the truth, which is that Biden is unfit and he would have been comatose by the time he was 86.

• 1:11:45Speaker 02

  Who's the first name you mentioned?

• 1:11:47Speaker 03

  Steve Rochetti, the same guy who put his own kid at the treasury.

• 1:11:51Speaker 02

  Who is he? What's his position?

• 1:11:52Speaker 03

  His most senior, White House senior advisor. Like, all of them are White House counselor or White House senior advisor. And they are the gatekeepers of the president.

• 1:12:03Speaker 02

  Who's the next name?

• 1:12:04Speaker 03

  Mike Donilon, the same guy who's feeding, I'm just gonna say it like it is, feeding Biden fake numbers telling him that he would win, he would beat Trump. Like, are you, like, seriously, are you kidding me? And, um, the truth of the matter is, by the time Biden was gonna drop out, he was on track to lose Electoral College by 400 votes. Trump was on track to get 400 Electoral College votes. Not a typo, I'm not misspeaking, 400 Electoral votes by the time he dropped out. And Mike Donilon, his pollster, whom he, I mean, they go back decades. By the way, the only, like, the major qualification for all these folks

• 1:12:48Speaker 03

  is that they know Biden really well. These aren't like PhDs or like rocket scientists or anything like that. It's just because of loyalty. And they've stayed with him for a number of years. So Mike Donilon, Nancy Pelosi actually called him out.

• 1:13:04Speaker 03

  And she said, show me the numbers, Mike, like, show me where you're getting these numbers that show that Biden can still beat Trump. And Donilon wasn't able to deliver. No such numbers exist.

• 1:13:17Speaker 02

  Who's the next name?

• 1:13:19Speaker 03

  Who did I say? Anita Dunn. I actually have a soft spot for Anita Dunn. Because she got iced out of the Biden circle in July, August of this past year, because she dared to say, maybe it's a good idea for the president to shy away from his convicted felon of a son. Because the optics aren't great.

• 1:13:39Speaker 02

  Why do you have a soft spot for somebody who's running the country in the shadows to the ground?

• 1:13:45Speaker 03

  Because she dared to speak up. She's the only one who did.

• 1:13:51Speaker 03

  She's the only one who dared to utter criticism.

• 1:13:54Speaker 02

  But we went four years.

• 1:13:56Speaker 03

  I know, but she's the only one who did anything a little bit different, you know? And she got, she got exiled, she got kicked out of the White House.

• 1:14:04Speaker 02

  When?

• 1:14:04Speaker 03

  So she's July.

• 1:14:08Speaker 03

  So she got booted out, and then not only her, her husband got booted out. Her husband, Bob Bauer, was Biden's personal attorney. So after Anita, oh, so I should also mention that after the debate, Hunter basically commandeered the White House. He sat in on all the White House top-level meetings. You had a former cocaine addict sitting in on the most sensitive meetings of the most consequential and important government in world history. Does that sit right with you?

• 1:14:42Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:14:42Speaker 03

  Without security clearance, mind you, no security clearance. That's who was basically running the show. So Hunter basically battened down the hatches after the debate to make sure that his father would only receive intel that he pre-approved. And so Anita Dunn got exiled around this time, along with her husband. Her husband was playing Trump in the debate prep. Von Klain was disgraced after the debate blew up. And then Jeff Zients, the person who's worth like hundreds of millions of dollars, the chief of staff.

• 1:15:19Speaker 03

  I should mention that the weekend that Biden made the decision to drop out, he only told two people in that circle, and that's Jeff. Uh, I'm sorry, that's Steve Buscetti and Mike. He didn't tell Anita because I was on a call with Anita that morning, and she had no idea it was gonna happen. It completely caught her off guard. So by that time, they were already easing her out of the circle.

• 1:15:42Speaker 02

  Is there any, did we cover all the names?

• 1:15:45Speaker 03

  Um, did we?

• 1:15:51Speaker 03

  Jill Biden?

• 1:15:52Speaker 02

  Jill Biden.

• 1:15:53Speaker 03

  She, she was like president. She was president. I was with, um, Joe and Jill the, the night of the debate. I was at their VIP debate watch party. I slept all the way to Atlanta, Georgia for that, to show my support. Oh, my gosh, Sean, I, you wouldn't believe it. Um, so that night, I was with, I have the pictures too. I was with Joe. And so Jill takes Joe by the hand. The names are so similar, I'm sorry. Jill takes Joe by the hand on stage and she's like, Joe, you knew all the facts. You answered all the questions. And you know that hand gesture that she does? And I'm thinking, you're treating him like a first grader. You know, like just because he,

• 1:16:38Speaker 03

  you know, like you shouldn't applaud him for doing the basics. Um, and you could just tell that she was fighting for dear life to hold on to the vestige of power. And just a few days later, she was on the cover of Vogue. So the whole thing was a Jill Biden show.

• 1:16:56Speaker 03

  Um, she was not as authentic as Joe. I, I wanna say. I think as Joe got older, he,

• 1:17:05Speaker 03

  maybe you think I'm naive in saying this, but I'm not even sure if he remembers all of the corruption that he engaged in.

• 1:17:11Speaker 02

  But it doesn't surprise me.

• 1:17:13Speaker 03

  Like, I don't think he, I don't think he had a full understanding of what was going on.

• 1:17:16Speaker 02

  I don't think anybody would argue that.

• 1:17:18Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:17:19Speaker 02

  Um, and so when we say, was this Obama's third term? How was he connected with these people?

• 1:17:29Speaker 03

  Oh, Jen O'Malley Dillon is an Obama vet. She ended up, she became the Deputy White House Chief of Staff. And she ended up running Kamala Harris's campaign because she gave Kamala an ultimatum saying, "The buck doesn't stop with me, I'm out of here." Because Kamala Harris has a history of putting her family in charge. People like Maya Harris, Mina Harris, and Tony West, the chief legal officer of Uber. When you put your family in charge, things, unless you're like Bobby Kennedy, like the original Kennedys, probably doesn't end well. And her 2019 campaign was a disaster. She was polling at 1%, she was a sitting US Senator.

• 1:18:12Speaker 03

  She didn't even make it to Iowa. That's how bad it was. And so Jen O'Malley Dillon was Obama loyalist. Her primary loyalty was to Obama, and she gave Kamala Harris that ultimatum. And then you had people like David Plouffe. So they helicoptered in Obama's people. They were running Kamala Harris's 2024 campaign like Obama's 2008 campaign. But the world has shifted since then.

• 1:18:44Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. And so would all these people congregate together and come up with the plan? I mean, the border, the Afghanistan withdrawal, the DEI, the LGBTQ.

• 1:18:57Speaker 03

  Well, you gotta keep in mind that a lot of these people hated each other. So when Harris ascended to the top, she pushed Donnellin out. Okay? And Anita Dunn was never known to be, I'm trying to be euphemistic, was never known to be a fan of Kamala Harris's. The Biden White House and the Harris naval, the Harris office are two very distinct entities. They hated each other. Their staffers were constantly at war. And so these are two very distinct entities.

• 1:19:29Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:19:30Speaker 03

  And their interests often collided.

• 1:19:34Speaker 03

  Like, right now Vance and Trump, they're like, there's no daylight between the two of them. They're rolling a concert. That's not what happened at all. That's not what, that wasn't the dynamic between Harris and Biden. From the get-go, things were rocky.

• 1:19:49Speaker 02

  So where did, I mean, I guess, where did the agenda come from then? Did it come from Obama through these people?

• 1:19:58Speaker 03

  I think that, that's true. Also, it came from unelected inexperienced, the twenty, thirty-year-olds that I was referencing earlier. People, people that we, none of us ever elected, people whose names you would never recognize, imposing their own vision of America onto everyone else. There was a huge LGBTQI, I'm losing track of the letters, LGBTQIA+ contingency in the White House,

• 1:20:29Speaker 03

  who sought to impose their own vision of wokeness onto the rest of us. And so you had the pride flags on the, on the storied pillars of the White House.

• 1:20:41Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. Yeah. And, man, this is crazy.

• 1:20:48Speaker 03

  Like, pride became their religion, you know? Um, there's nothing wrong, I mean...

• 1:20:55Speaker 02

  What about all the executive orders? Who was writing those up?

• 1:20:58Speaker 03

  His senior advisors.

• 1:21:00Speaker 02

  So they were just, all these different people that weren't congregating with each other? There was no, like, collective agenda?

• 1:21:06Speaker 03

  There was this one time-

• 1:21:07Speaker 02

  They were all out for themselves.

• 1:21:09Speaker 03

  Yeah, exactly. There was this one time, he signed an executive order and someone in the crowd was asking him about it the next day, and he had, he would have no idea what they were talking about. So it's just-

• 1:21:24Speaker 03

  He just had immense trust in his senior staff to execute his mission.

• 1:21:32Speaker 02

  And what was he doing this whole time? I mean, he wasn't doing press conferences. Nobody had ever heard from him.

• 1:21:38Speaker 03

  He's most active.

• 1:21:39Speaker 02

  Going to bed at 8:00 P. M.

• 1:21:40Speaker 03

  That's late. Well, he usually checks out by four. So you're giving him extra credit. Eight is actually really ambitious for him. He's most active between 10 to four, so the White House staff knows not tries not to schedule anything outside of those hours. That's why he,

• 1:21:59Speaker 03

  you know, face planted so hard at the debate, which is so late and out of his window of activity. He wasn't used to that. And all of us have, we've all had cold. We've all had colds, right? No cold would result in that sort of debate performance. We don't lose our minds when we have a cold. That's no excuse.

• 1:22:21Speaker 02

  So what's his daily routine? I mean, he's not writing the executive orders. He doesn't even really know what's going on.

• 1:22:29Speaker 03

  He watches Morning Joe.

• 1:22:31Speaker 02

  He watches Morning Joe.

• 1:22:32Speaker 03

  He watches Morning Joe.

• 1:22:34Speaker 02

  And then what?

• 1:22:39Speaker 02

  He just spaces out?

• 1:22:42Speaker 03

  They don't really hold cabinet meetings. It's like, I think they held one in the past year.

• 1:22:50Speaker 03

  You know, we're lucky that, we're lucky that disaster didn't strike. You know, well, I mean, disaster did strike multiple times, but we're lucky that something worse didn't happen, you know? We're lucky that another pandemic didn't hit under Biden's watch.

• 1:23:07Speaker 02

  I think a lot of things hit, you know? Funding terrorism.

• 1:23:12Speaker 03

  Ukraine, yeah, you're right.

• 1:23:14Speaker 02

  Ukraine. The border.

• 1:23:18Speaker 03

  The border was an unforgivable mistake, unforgivable.

• 1:23:22Speaker 02

  Was it intentional?

• 1:23:24Speaker 03

  Absolutely, I think it was intentional, absolutely, because we have members of Congress in the Democratic Party who love migrants, who think that we should offer asylum to basically anyone who asks for it. These people, and I don't know why it's so controversial for people to acknowledge that, yes, that, yes, Democrats want these people to be potential, potentially new voters. I think that's a logical conclusion. Why is that controversial to say?

• 1:23:50Speaker 02

  Is there a?

• 1:23:52Speaker 03

  Like, they would never admit that. But, I mean, like, the DNC itself would never admit that, but there are a lot of, like, members of Congress who's, who openly are vouching for that.

• 1:24:03Speaker 02

  Was that the agenda? I mean, was that the, was that the, was that the talk behind the scenes? We've got to get these people in to turn them into voters?

• 1:24:11Speaker 03

  No, because the people at the DNC, at least, like, the top donors, they're kind of like limousine liberals. It's a different vibe. It's different from the activist level.

• 1:24:20Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:24:21Speaker 03

  There are different gradations. Like, the people that I, the people that, I'm sorry if this sounds like leaders or anything, but like, when I donor events, they're like venture capitalists, they're Silicon Valley, um, you know, they're investment bankers. They're not thinking that way. But the activists, for sure. They want to open the borders. They don't want national borders. They don't have, they don't give a damn about national sovereignty. Um, they care more about, like, people in Mexico than they do about American children. And why is it so controversial to, to want, to want America first? Why is it bad to say that? I don't understand. I love this country so much.

• 1:25:03Speaker 03

  You know, I'm so grateful to be here. In China, I would have been arrested already. So why is it so bad to want to put my country first? To take care of our people first? I don't want to be funding transgender operas in overseas.

• 1:25:22Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:25:23Speaker 03

  Why is it too much to ask?

• 1:25:26Speaker 02

  I, I, I can't answer that. I don't know. Did he have any senators or congressmen in his era?

• 1:25:37Speaker 03

  He's very close with a guy named Chris Coons, a senator out of Delaware, actually. Um, yeah. Chris Coons is an interesting fellow.

• 1:25:49Speaker 02

  So very influential to Biden?

• 1:25:51Speaker 03

  Very, very influential. I think he was the single most influential senator, um, during the Biden years. Um, who else? Chris Coons, it's the Delaware thing. And Ted Kaufman, who became senator when Biden became vice president, was also very close to Biden. Um, he was also close to the author John Meacham.

• 1:26:16Speaker 03

  John Meacham obviously was aware of Biden's cognitive decline, yet he still went on cable TV espousing the opposite. You had the entire, these people who supposedly, I'm gonna get in so much trouble for saying this, but Sean, it's the truth. These people who supposedly, you know, they embody the greatest pinnacle of American media and American journalism. All of them, almost without an exception, lied to the American people. Kamala Harris lied to the American people when she vouched for Biden's cognitive fitness. When all of them knew that he wasn't fit.

• 1:27:00Speaker 02

  And so, let's go back to, I'm trying to figure out how Obama was running the show, because you pretty much said, yes, it was Obama's third term.

• 1:27:09Speaker 03

  And he's the one who pushed Biden out, too.

• 1:27:12Speaker 02

  But we're also saying that all of the people that you just mentioned were not on the same page. It was very argumentative. They didn't like each other. And so if he was influencing all of them, it seems like they would have been on the same page.

• 1:27:28Speaker 03

  I should also mention that these people are Obama people, too. They worked for him. Like Anita Dunn was originally an Obama person. Jen O'Malley Dillon was an Obama person. So there's tremendous overlap, too. But Obama was definitely, he continued to pull the strings up until the very end. He was the one who orchestrated the Clooney letter. Now, George Clooney is angry at Obama for getting him involved in politics, because Clooney is getting a lot of pushback for everything.

• 1:28:01Speaker 02

  Poor Clooney.

• 1:28:02Speaker 03

  And so Obama is the reason why donors even gave. Like, let's be honest, Biden is no draw. I hosted Biden myself on May 1st at the Mayflower in DC. I had to beg people. Sean, it got to the point where I was sending texts in like capital letters saying, "Please give emoji face." Like, please. Because my name was on the flyer, like... I I had to deliver, you know? It was hard, it was so hard to make this out because people, you can't lie to the American people. You know, on the whole, the wisdom of the crowds. The American people knew, you could see it, that this guy wasn't fit. It was like pulling teeth to get people to give.

• 1:28:47Speaker 03

  So finally, I was able to raise just a million dollars, which is far lower than I'm, than I usually do. But um, it's just.

• 1:28:57Speaker 02

  So were these his agendas, were these Obama's agendas that we saw roll out over the past four years? That's what I'm asking, because, you know, I am a realist and I just want to know the truth. And so, you know, like, like I had mentioned, like, a lot of people think that it was Obama's third term. But then we have this, then we have you saying that these people weren't getting along.

• 1:29:18Speaker 03

  But that's not mutually exclusive.

• 1:29:20Speaker 02

  If it was orchestrated, then from him, then it seems like these people will be getting along. And do you see what I'm saying?

• 1:29:29Speaker 03

  It it's not mutually exclusive because they didn't get along because they were all vying for the most power.

• 1:29:34Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 1:29:35Speaker 03

  Like amongst themselves, they were vying for ascendancy amongst themselves, but they were still executing his agenda. Like they, Obama is what continues to be more forceful figure than Biden is. Um, and he was the draw at fundraising events. He, he was the reason why people were showing up. Biden is no draw, okay? So I was a co-host for an event that George Clooney and Julia Roberts hosted in Hollywood in June. People came for Obama and I, I don't know, the press ever mentioned this, but that night, Obama himself was shocked to see Biden's decline, you could tell.

• 1:30:18Speaker 03

  And he was like holding Biden by the hand and shepherding him off the stage. Because Biden didn't know to leave the stage after the event was over. And you could just tell people in the crowd. Like, looking at each other, they're saying, like, what's going on? But everyone was playing their part in an emperor has no clothes situation. Because in their mind, the alternative was so dire, and that is Trump. And have you seen The Wire? You know that phrase, you come at the king, you better not miss?

• 1:30:51Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:30:52Speaker 03

  If you can't push Biden aside, and you fail that attempt, the only person who benefits is Trump. So that was their logic.

• 1:31:00Speaker 02

  Okay. So were they, why are they so fearful of Trump? Are they worried that, I mean, we saw these executive orders come out. Does it have to do with protecting themselves? You know, we have the Epstein stuff that's hopefully gonna come out if Cash Patel gets in. Um, we have the Diddy stuff going on.

• 1:31:20Speaker 03

  They think that Trump was on that list.

• 1:31:22Speaker 02

  They think that Trump was on that list?

• 1:31:23Speaker 03

  They think, they think, they think, they pretend to hate Trump, but it's just a gag. It's just a show, it's a charade. You saw Obama yucking it up with him at someone's funeral, at Jimmy Carter's funeral. Democrats pretend to hate Trump. At the end of the day, they crave him. They're obsessed with him. They need him for their fundraising machine. They need him for their raison d'etre. They, without Trump, they would have no rudder. They would be even worse off than they are. Trump is their lodestar. It's their reason for existence. They're obsessed with the man.

• 1:32:01Speaker 02

  So they're not trying to protect themselves?

• 1:32:03Speaker 03

  They have no other reason to exist at this point. Because their party is just, it's just, their party, basically, it's in shambles.

• 1:32:14Speaker 02

  Let's talk about the executive orders that came out at the very end.

• 1:32:17Speaker 03

  Terrible, terrible.

• 1:32:19Speaker 02

  So who orchestrated that? I mean, who was on there? It was Fauci was on there.

• 1:32:24Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:32:24Speaker 02

  There was, Milley was on there. There was the J six committee was on there. Who am I missing anybody?

• 1:32:31Speaker 03

  His entire family?

• 1:32:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, that was the first run. That was what the night before and then what? What? It was like an hour or two before.

• 1:32:38Speaker 03

  And by the way.

• 1:32:38Speaker 02

  It was his entire family.

• 1:32:39Speaker 03

  Exactly. So I called, I, I predicted that on, I, I told people months ago that this would happen, by the way. I went on Times Radio and I said this and it happened exactly the way I said it would. He would pardon his entire family. James, Valerie, Biden Owens, everybody. Because all of them were involved in Hunter's business. And James Biden was involved in the failed hospital network situation.

• 1:33:06Speaker 03

  And I want people to know that extends all the way back to 2014. The start of the Burisma situation in Ukraine. So the whole thing is sprawling. The entire family enterprise was influence peddling. Like everyone was in on it essentially except Ashley. She's out there doing her own thing. I actually personally really like Ashley. I know her, you know, she's my fellow Philadelphian. She's not really involved in anything. She's recovering from, you know, she's a recovering addict. She's doing, she's just doing her own thing. But everyone else is involved.

• 1:33:40Speaker 02

  So who orchestrated? Let's talk about the families first. Who, did that come from Jill?

• 1:33:45Speaker 03

  It's an influence to the intelligence of the American people. That Joe Biden pretends that he had nothing to do with it. Joe Biden had everything to do with it. Flying his son on Air Force Two to China. Like, do you think we're stupid? Like, seriously? Really?

• 1:34:04Speaker 03

  If you gave me a million dollars, I wouldn't even go back to China.

• 1:34:10Speaker 02

  But did he know? You know, did he understand? Did Joe Biden know what was going on?

• 1:34:16Speaker 03

  Absolutely, he knew. Absolutely, he knew.

• 1:34:22Speaker 03

  And he used his addict of a son as his bad man.

• 1:34:27Speaker 02

  So he was with it enough to orchestrate?

• 1:34:29Speaker 03

  Because this started, this started when he was Vice President in 2014, like the 2010s. He was definitely with it then. This was the year, this was the year when he was debating Paul Ryan. He did a good job. Didn't he do a stand-up job with Paul Ryan? You know that debate?

• 1:34:44Speaker 02

  I don't remember that debate.

• 1:34:46Speaker 03

  Actually, he did a decent job in 2012. He had control of his faculties then. When I first met him in 2016, he was fine too.

• 1:34:57Speaker 02

  What about Fauci?

• 1:35:00Speaker 03

  Oh, man.

• 1:35:04Speaker 03

  I love how Fauci is like, I need taxpayers' paid security. And it turns out to be like this valet, like whole shebang, like the whole operation and like limousine and everything. Like Fauci, you made enough on your own. You can pay for your own security. Why are you charging us? How much is he charging us a day?

• 1:35:24Speaker 02

  Well, what I'm asking is, did Fauci get to them and did these people ask for the pardons?

• 1:35:29Speaker 03

  Oh, I don't know what Fauci. I'm not in touch with that. I can't speak to what Fauci did. But I do know that he was under tremendous, Biden was under tremendous pressure to pardon, like everybody.

• 1:35:40Speaker 02

  Who was pressuring him?

• 1:35:41Speaker 03

  The members of Congress, especially you had the Squad. People like Ayanna Pressley, AOC, begging Biden to pardon like death row murderers and letting out all the cretins of the world. It's just like, this is just, I live in Philadelphia, okay, where crime is seriously rampant. This is what happens when you have liberals running this, running the show. You have criminals on the streets and crime is not being prosecuted.

• 1:36:15Speaker 03

  Um, and we're all about receipts, right? And I, um, one of the reasons why I actually turned conservative.

• 1:36:26Speaker 03

  Sean, I was just standing on the curb and I got pelted by rocks.

• 1:36:36Speaker 03

  And I started bleeding and I was bruised. And I couldn't say a single thing because I'm Asian.

• 1:36:45Speaker 03

  And the people perpetrating the crime were Black Americans. And I would be labeled as a racist if I said anything.

• 1:36:52Speaker 02

  That's why you turned Republican?

• 1:36:54Speaker 03

  I mean, it wasn't like I didn't like decide the next day I would be Republican. But just so you know, I, I do want to pull up that, um.

• 1:37:08Speaker 03

  Um, it just, the Republican Party is the only group of people who are willing to admit that there's black on Asian crime.

• 1:37:19Speaker 03

  You're not allowed to say that as a Democrat.

• 1:37:23Speaker 03

  Because in the Democratic Party, they would label me, the victim, as a person at fault and the perpetrator as

• 1:37:35Speaker 03

  the perpetrator as the victim of some imagined grievance, someone in need of reparation or whatever. And all I did was stand on the curb. Actually, I was so stunned, I couldn't even react. And it wasn't the first time. It happened to me two times afterwards. There was nothing I can do. I filed a police report, but there's nothing I can do.

• 1:38:06Speaker 03

  And just so you know that this happened.

• 1:38:08Speaker 02

  What's this?

• 1:38:09Speaker 03

  Um, I sent it to my therapist, actually, right after it happened.

• 1:38:14Speaker 02

  This is from you. "Hi Lauren, I was just walking to get my dinner. A group of teenagers started pelting rocks at my head. I am now bruised and crying. Do you have any thoughts on how to move past this? Thanks so much. Hope you're well. Please feel free to respond when you're back in the office. No need to rush, just needed to send this as this just happened and I'm shaken. A million thank yous."

• 1:38:38Speaker 03

  Um, and so this is just randomly, this just happened to me, just um, standing on the street in the middle of Philadelphia. And it's a liberal ones, it's a Democratic-run city. And this is what happens when you have a George Soros-funded prosecutor

• 1:38:58Speaker 03

  governing our city.

• 1:38:59Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. Yeah.

• 1:39:01Speaker 03

  They've done so much damage. The Soros prosecutors, not only in my city, but San Francisco, Los Angeles, across the country.

• 1:39:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, and they defund the police movement. I mean, what are they gonna do? You know? What are they gonna do? They have nobody to back them.

• 1:39:16Speaker 03

  And now the person who wanted to defund the police is running the DNC. So, yeah, things are going well.

• 1:39:23Speaker 02

  Genius move.

• 1:39:25Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 1:39:26Speaker 02

  So, is that, is that, I mean, what other values?

• 1:39:31Speaker 02

  Or, or, I mean, is it, is there anything else? I mean, just looking at it from a, from a different perspective. I mean, you've been demonized, you've been ostracized from the Democratic Party. You've, say, you've lost all of your friends. I mean, are you, are you looking for acceptance in the Republican Party? Because you have nobody? Does that have a play in this?

• 1:39:59Speaker 03

  The Trump team already reached out to me. I was appointed to the inaugural committee. They, they were incredible. The Chair of the RNC, Casey Crosby, she's incredible. She's treated me with the utmost kindness and graciousness. It's been unbelievable. I want to give a shout out to her because she's treated me with more decency in a day than Jamie Harrison did my entire life. It, it's just, I'm like on a different planet.

• 1:40:32Speaker 02

  But let's just take all the acceptance and decent people out of it. Let's just talk about, you know, what is it about conservative values that, that draws you into the party?

• 1:40:44Speaker 03

  I've always been conservative, but I've had to hide it. And I was trying to tell, and I'm on record, even five years ago, you know, I'm on record telling people again and again that I'm a conservative Democrat. I grew up as a Christian conservative. I went to church every Sunday. I went to youth group every Friday. Even today, I read the Bible every night in my battered King James Version of a Bible with the calendar in the back. I, you know, faith is such an important part of my life. It's always been, um, I'm just conservative and also Asian. I can't get away from that.

• 1:41:27Speaker 03

  We're just a conservative culture, you know, socially conservative, fiscally responsible. I grew up with nothing. My first job was at Wawa, the hoagie shop, making nine dollars an hour.

• 1:41:43Speaker 03

  You know, my parents had nothing, and we built something magnificent out of it. We've created hundreds of American jobs over the years.

• 1:41:51Speaker 02

  Do you feel like you've lied to the American people through the concealment of Joe Biden's cognitive decline?

• 1:41:58Speaker 03

  No, because I tried as soon as I realized in 2022, I started telling the press.

• 1:42:04Speaker 02

  And so...

• 1:42:05Speaker 03

  I have a paper trail of that.

• 1:42:07Speaker 02

  As we kind of close this interview out,

• 1:42:12Speaker 02

  what do you have to say to members of the Democratic Party who were a big part of that lie, who did not have the courage to speak up or say anything still to this day?

• 1:42:27Speaker 03

  You failed the American people. Shame on you. Shame on you.

• 1:42:33Speaker 03

  You had one job to protect the American people, and you failed objectively at it in order to preserve your own position. And it's just something that you can never get... We're never going to let you live it down. And you sought to destroy people like me and others who dared to tell the truth, who dared to buck the party line. Because in this cult, you can't ask any questions. You can't utter any criticisms or any divergence from the party line.

• 1:43:04Speaker 03

  And because of their lies, the Democratic Party has been discredited for a generation. Like, good fucking luck getting out of this.

• 1:43:15Speaker 02

  It's going to take a lot of work.

• 1:43:16Speaker 03

  It's going to take a hell of a lot of work. And it's not just the lie about this. It's the media manipulation of Kamala Harris, who, from the worst and most poorly rated vice president in American history to somehow the second coming of Jesus in a matter of days. Like, did you notice that? Like, we went from being, "Who is she?", to, "Oh, my God, she's like this megastar."

• 1:43:45Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, I saw it.

• 1:43:47Speaker 03

  Within days.

• 1:43:49Speaker 02

  Yeah. Well, Lindy, I really appreciate you coming. And do you have any more aspirations?

• 1:43:59Speaker 03

  Can I just say, I've watched so many of your interviews, and you are a national treasure. You truly are. You're just really good at this. You are like, I don't know, such... You're some sort of... You have what it takes to get people to really open up and divulge their innermost thoughts. It's a very rare talent. And I'm so glad that you're here. This country is lucky to have you. And I just want to say that the balance of power is shifting away from legacy media and is shifting towards people like you. So please keep going.

• 1:44:38Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 1:44:38Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:44:38Speaker 02

  I appreciate that. Well, Lindy, best of luck to you.

• 1:44:42Speaker 03

  Thank you so much.