#2253 - Theo Von

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• 0:01Speaker 00

  The Joe Rogan Experience.

• 0:15Speaker 01

  Who sings that?

• 0:17Joe Rogan?

  How dare you. How dare you say who sings that?

• 0:19Speaker 01

  No, who, who's, uh...

• 0:20Joe Rogan?

  Angus Young.

• 0:22Speaker 01

  AC?

• 0:22Joe Rogan?

  Angus Young is the guitarist, right?

• 0:26Speaker 01

  Why is that?

• 0:26Joe Rogan?

  It's, uh... God damn it.

• 0:29Speaker 01

  My brother used to beat the shit out of me with that music.

• 0:34Joe Rogan?

  That's right. And then, before him... Bon Scott. Bon Scott died of a drug overdose, right?

• 0:41Speaker 01

  Aw, man.

• 0:42Joe Rogan?

  Is that how he died? Just went too hard.

• 0:46Speaker 01

  That's the thing. It's like, it's that moment where you're like, do we want to go any harder?

• 0:49Joe Rogan?

  I saw a video of Angus onstage the other night, like, recently. He's like 70 years old.

• 0:55Speaker 01

  From ACDC.

• 0:55Joe Rogan?

  Going ham. Old fucking dude, white hair, just dancing. See if you can find that video. Just dancing around onstage. Carl is still up. He's like, "Dad, you didn't even put me down yet."

• 1:09Joe Rogan?

  It takes 3 minutes to calm him? You got a, you got a whole system?

• 1:13Speaker 03

  It's usually 3 or 4 minutes, and then by, for sure, 7 or 8, he's asleep.

• 1:16Speaker 01

  And get him a weighted, do they have a weighted blanket or not for him?

• 1:21Joe Rogan?

  I don't think they do that for dogs.

• 1:23Speaker 03

  He doesn't have that much anxiety. He's pretty good.

• 1:25Joe Rogan?

  Does that really work with people? I feel like there's other ways.

• 1:29Speaker 01

  There's that one video that, like, really, like, kind of, kind of weak kid who gets trapped under one or whatever. Have you ever seen that?

• 1:36Joe Rogan?

  Oh, no!

• 1:37Speaker 01

  At that birthday party?

• 1:38Joe Rogan?

  How big is the blanket?

• 1:39Speaker 01

  I mean, it's like, I guess it's like 80-pound test or whatever. I don't know, heavy to thread.

• 1:44Joe Rogan?

  Like a Marlin blanket? A Marlin line?

• 1:47Speaker 01

  I mean, I don't know how heavy the thread was, but it's like... He's like trying to text for help or whatever.

• 1:52Joe Rogan?

  Jesus Christ. Oh, so it's just a joke?

• 1:56Speaker 01

  No, no.

• 1:56Joe Rogan?

  It has to be a joke.

• 1:57Speaker 01

  I, I...

• 1:58Joe Rogan?

  For real? No, he was really trapped?

• 1:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, it looked like he was very much trapped under there.

• 2:02Joe Rogan?

  Oh, man.

• 2:03Speaker 01

  Some, he was very, um, I don't know, say malnourished or unner, you know, he just did, he didn't like to eat or whatever. One of those kids that only eats nuggets or whatever.

• 2:12Joe Rogan?

  Oh, well, nuggets are better than just chips. At least nuggets are some kind of protein.

• 2:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:18Joe Rogan?

  I mean, some kind of. What do you think Bobby Kennedy's gonna do when he gets into the White House? I think we're starting. Are we rolling? Yeah, we're rolling.

• 2:29Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 2:29Joe Rogan?

  You think they're gonna get rid of nuggets? See, here's my take on, like, I was just reading this whole thing about, uh, Chick-fil-A.

• 2:36Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:36Joe Rogan?

  And they were saying, "This is the most dangerous food in America. The number one burger, Chick-fil-A is like the number one fast food sandwich, chicken sandwich, and there's a fucking thousand ingredients and this, like..." Yeah, just don't eat it every day, stupid.

• 2:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:52Joe Rogan?

  I eat 'em. I'm healthy. I'm real healthy. You just don't eat 'em every fucking day.

• 2:57Speaker 01

  You enjoy 'em.

• 2:59Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you don't, it's not your primary diet.

• 3:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, if you're going over there every day or whatever, leaving your kids at home to go get one or something, if you're lying.

• 3:08Joe Rogan?

  You're just fiending for Chick-fil-A all day.

• 3:11Speaker 01

  Well, they're so good and they come in that little bag. It almost has that, um, they come in the unmarked bag, you know?

• 3:16Joe Rogan?

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• 4:37Speaker 01

  I went to a football game the other day, ate three of them.

• 4:40Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Feel good, still work out, still feel healthy. The key is just don't make that most of what you eat.

• 4:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:48Joe Rogan?

  Every now and again, a little Chick-fil-A is not gonna hurt nothing.

• 4:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, treat your lady, treat your friend, treat yourself.

• 4:54Joe Rogan?

  Treat yourself.

• 4:55Speaker 01

  Get off of work, I'm gonna have one today.

• 4:56Joe Rogan?

  I'm gonna get me a double double from In-N-Out, fuck it.

• 4:59Speaker 01

  That's a lot, though. Double, just get a regular one.

• 5:03Joe Rogan?

  If you're gonna go hard, go all the way hard.

• 5:06Speaker 01

  See, I'm the guy who I would get two singles instead of getting a double.

• 5:09Joe Rogan?

  You know what I get at In-N-Out? I get the Flying Dutchman. You know what that is? It's just patties with cheese on it. It's so good, it's so good, cuz it's fresh. Cuz In-N-Out doesn't freeze their meat. Their meat is always fresh, so when you get those... I mean, it's just perfect, man. It's two burger patties with two slices of cheese, and I pick those greasy bitches up and

• 5:35Joe Rogan?

  and I feel great. I don't feel bad at all. It's like the closest thing you can get to healthy food at a fast food spot.

• 5:42Speaker 01

  And so you're, and there's no bread on them?

• 5:44Joe Rogan?

  No bread. No bread, no nothing, no sauce, no ketchup.

• 5:47Speaker 01

  You pick them up with two forks?

• 5:48Joe Rogan?

  Like a fucking pig, like a sloppy glutton.

• 5:54Joe Rogan?

  I just, I just resign myself.

• 5:57Speaker 01

  That's that Missouri sushi, dude.

• 6:00Speaker 01

  It's meat and cheese.

• 6:01Joe Rogan?

  Just meat and cheese and greasy fingers.

• 6:04Speaker 01

  That's that Montana Sashimi, brother.

• 6:06Joe Rogan?

  It's so hot, you can barely hold on to it. Oh, people do it with the onions on it, too? Yeah, I've had that.

• 6:11Speaker 01

  Oh, I haven't seen all this.

• 6:12Joe Rogan?

  The onions is good, but my way is no onions.

• 6:16Speaker 01

  I have a block on my computer, I don't think I can look at some of this stuff. Oh yeah, if I put the Flying Dutchman, dude, it's gonna bring up.

• 6:23Joe Rogan?

  My buddy Cody gets them with, uh, onions inside of them, so you, they slice up the onions. Put it inside of them, grilled onions inside. That's nice.

• 6:32Speaker 01

  I love onions. I think onions are a, um, underrated... Um, food.

• 6:39Joe Rogan?

  Do you think onions have any nutrition in them at all? I love onions too.

• 6:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:44Joe Rogan?

  About whenever I eat onions, I'm like, what am I doing here? This is, there's nothing here.

• 6:48Speaker 01

  Right, but there's something about them that's like, oh yeah, but you want some, huh?

• 6:52Joe Rogan?

  They, well, there's a tinge, you know what I love? I love a good tomato and onion salad. You know?

• 6:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:58Joe Rogan?

  When they give those like beefsteak tomatoes, like heirloom tomatoes with slices of onion and some balsamic on that bitch.

• 7:05Speaker 01

  I love that.

• 7:06Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's nice.

• 7:08Speaker 01

  Oh, I love that and.

• 7:09Joe Rogan?

  That's like an old school New York steakhouse thing, you know?

• 7:13Speaker 01

  Like a Barata style thing, you mean?

• 7:14Joe Rogan?

  That's good too, yeah.

• 7:15Speaker 01

  If you go Barata, you're great.

• 7:16Joe Rogan?

  Oh, the Barata and the tomatoes, you can't go wrong.

• 7:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 7:19Joe Rogan?

  But the onions and tomatoes, tomato and onion salad was like a steakhouse thing. I never really saw it anywhere else. But like tomato and onion salad was like a big thing in like New York steakhouses.

• 7:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, baby, that sounds good.

• 7:32Joe Rogan?

  Hmm.

• 7:33Speaker 01

  I like having, I, I like when you get, there's a Vidalia onion, you ever seen that one?

• 7:37Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 7:38Speaker 01

  That's a beautiful onion, bring one up. If you don't mind, Jamie.

• 7:41Joe Rogan?

  But well, let's guess though, cause I, I genuinely have no idea.

• 7:44Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 7:45Joe Rogan?

  Do you think there's any nutritional content in onions?

• 7:51Speaker 01

  Let me think about it, let me think about while I'm eating one.

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• 9:58Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 9:59Joe Rogan?

  There might be some sneaky shit that like only like Andrew Huberman can tell you about. You know, some weird ingredient.

• 10:06Speaker 01

  Like some back, like a back end magnesium or something?

• 10:09Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, it's weird.

• 10:11Speaker 01

  Like some fucking.

• 10:12Joe Rogan?

  Some weird shit.

• 10:13Speaker 01

  Like.

• 10:16Joe Rogan?

  That's a Vidalia onion. Okay, so I think I've seen them before. I just didn't know they had a different name.

• 10:21Speaker 01

  Those are good.

• 10:22Speaker 03

  There is a lot of nutritional value. I have it on the next tab.

• 10:25Joe Rogan?

  Okay, that's what I want to know. Impressive health benefits of onion. Okay. Now I feel better for liking onions. Tell me what can they do for you?

• 10:32Speaker 03

  Vitamin C.

• 10:34Speaker 01

  Easy, we should have known it.

• 10:35Joe Rogan?

  Let's see, look at all that. There's a little sugar? Interesting. 4.7 grams of sugar in an onion. Imagine how nasty it would take without that sugar. How nasty would onions taste if they taste that good with that much sugar?

• 10:49Speaker 01

  And just say just God put a touch in there, he knew it.

• 10:51Joe Rogan?

  Has anybody ever had onion sliced onions with sugar all over it?

• 10:55Speaker 01

  Hmm, I don't know.

• 10:56Joe Rogan?

  Damn.

• 10:56Speaker 01

  Cause you would think it would bring the sugar out even more.

• 10:58Joe Rogan?

  More, right? You know what I had the other day that was really good? Watermelon with salt on it. You ever have that?

• 11:06Speaker 01

  No, I haven't had that.

• 11:07Joe Rogan?

  Dude, it's like it's you either love it or you what the fuck have you done to watermelon?

• 11:13Speaker 01

  Oh, I could see that.

• 11:14Joe Rogan?

  I love it.

• 11:15Speaker 01

  Mexican people like to put crazy shit on fruit.

• 11:20Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Chili mango man, that's a big one in Mexico.

• 11:23Speaker 01

  You like this fruit and they're like, now you'd like it or what motherfucker?

• 11:26Joe Rogan?

  That's spicy fruit.

• 11:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, they get crazy dude.

• 11:29Joe Rogan?

  But chili mango works uniquely. Like out of all spicy fruits, that's the one that caught on so much it made it to potato chips.

• 11:37Speaker 01

  Chili mango?

• 11:37Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, chili mango's in everything.

• 11:39Speaker 01

  I haven't had that.

• 11:39Joe Rogan?

  Oh dude, I drink chili mango element. You know what element is? Like the hydration mix?

• 11:45Speaker 01

  Uh-uh.

• 11:46Joe Rogan?

  It's nice.

• 11:46Speaker 01

  I like hydration though.

• 11:48Joe Rogan?

  That's Rob Wolf's company, right? I believe so.

• 11:51Speaker 01

  Dude, why are people, why is there so much hydration now? And also dude, thank you, I just wanna say thank you to Mexican people? Just for doing everything that they do, dude. I feel like every week we should have a round of applause for Mexican people, I feel like in America.

• 12:05Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's weird to wanna keep them out. You know, they have some of the best food. They're the nicest people. They're hard, they're some of the hardest working people like one of the dumb-

• 12:15Speaker 01

  And they're organ donors too, a lot of them.

• 12:16Joe Rogan?

  Well, that's awesome. One of the dumbest like stereotypes ever was like the lazy Mexican. Like what are you talking about? Everyone I've ever met has like fucking three jobs. They're all working 12 hours a day, like what the fuck are you talking about?

• 12:31Speaker 01

  I knew a Mexican guy, he had to leave work to go to his job.

• 12:34Joe Rogan?

  Bro.

• 12:35Speaker 01

  All the, it never ends dude.

• 12:37Joe Rogan?

  You know Mexicans used to have a feud with Puerto Ricans back in the day with boxing. In boxing, there was always like this feud between Mexicans, Puerto Ricans. And the Mexicans would always say that the Puerto Ricans didn't work hard enough.

• 12:49Speaker 01

  What?

• 12:51Joe Rogan?

  Like the discipline, like some of the Puerto Rican guys are maybe more talented, but the Mexican guys were known for discipline. Like some of the great Mexican boxers, like Julio Cesar Chavez, one of the things about him was his volume was insane.

• 13:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:06Joe Rogan?

  His knowledge of boxing was insane, but his volume was insane. And the only way you could have volume like that is if you have supreme conditioning.

• 13:15Speaker 01

  And what does volume mean? Volume punching?

• 13:17Joe Rogan?

  Volume of punching.

• 13:18Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 13:18Joe Rogan?

  You ever watch Julio Cesar Chavez? One of the greatest of all time.

• 13:22Speaker 01

  He passed away?

• 13:23Joe Rogan?

  Of all time. No, no, he's still alive.

• 13:25Speaker 01

  Oh, good.

• 13:25Joe Rogan?

  And his son is boxing now. His, his son is a really good boxer. Not at the level that his dad was, but Julio Cesar Chavez Senior was one of the all time greats. But he would just overwhelm people with volume and just break them down. Pull up a Julio Cesar Chavez highlight. Cause when he was in his prime, he, one of the greatest fights of all time was him versus Meldrick Taylor. And he knocked Mel- Meldrick Taylor, who's an Olympic gold medalist, phenomenal boxer. And he knocked out Meldrick Taylor with like 10 seconds to go in the final round.

• 13:58Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 13:59Speaker 03

  He made this dude cry?

• 14:00Joe Rogan?

  He made this dude cry? Well, I, look, his hair should make him cry.

• 14:03Speaker 01

  Who's that against?

• 14:04Joe Rogan?

  That's, is that the dude from Red Clay Strays? That's his brother?

• 14:09Joe Rogan?

  He looks like- He looks like he could be his cousin that wants money from him. Oh, it's my cousin, the boxer shit.

• 14:18Speaker 01

  That looks like, uh, it looks like fucking machine gun punching.

• 14:23Joe Rogan?

  This is, so I don't know why he made this dude cry, but just go, get me a highlight. Because we don't have the time to like just watch him break this dude down. Give me just like a Julio Cesar Chavez Junior hi- oh, excuse me, Chavez Senior highlight.

• 14:35Speaker 01

  She comes from Silver Spoon.

• 14:37Joe Rogan?

  Those guys, you got one of their jackets on, man. You, you're wearing a red case, red clay strays hoodie.

• 14:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, I am.

• 14:43Joe Rogan?

  They're great, man.

• 14:44Speaker 01

  Thank God this is warm.

• 14:46Joe Rogan?

  So in the 1990s, he was the fucking man.

• 14:50Speaker 01

  He was an animal, huh?

• 14:52Joe Rogan?

  He was, I forget what his record was before he had his first defeat, but it was something crazy like 80 or 90 fights before he had his first defeat.

• 15:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, I had to let it go.

• 15:02Joe Rogan?

  Bro, and just, is there a highlight of his knockouts? Just give me a highlight of like him beating the fuck out of people. He was so good dude.

• 15:12Speaker 01

  Look at this, he about to cook this brother up.

• 15:14Joe Rogan?

  That was Meldrick Taylor.

• 15:15Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 15:15Joe Rogan?

  So Meldrick Taylor and him had an epic fight where Meldrick was winning the beginning of the fight. The Meldrick was very good.

• 15:21Speaker 01

  That's Meldrick?

• 15:22Joe Rogan?

  No, that's Purnell Whitaker. That was a fight where he probably shouldn't have won. But they gave it to him and a lot of people, including myself, watched that and think Purnell Whitaker got robbed. Purnell Whitaker was like the slickest of all of the uh, American boxers of his era.

• 15:40Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 15:40Joe Rogan?

  But Julio Jesus Chavez just broke Meldrick down later in the fight.

• 15:44Speaker 01

  What made him so good then? What made him?

• 15:47Joe Rogan?

  Well, you know what makes a fighter? There's a lot of things, but he didn't stand out in terms like he wasn't faster than everybody.

• 15:53Speaker 01

  Right.

• 15:53Joe Rogan?

  Or hit harder than everybody. He wasn't a one punch guy.

• 15:54Speaker 01

  He seemed like a John Stockton fighter right here.

• 15:57Joe Rogan?

  He's, he was a volume puncher. So he would put guys away by breaking them down. He would break their will and crush them. That was what he would do. And he would do it with this fucking mean look on his face when he's just at the end of fights when he had guys broken. He would just overwhelm them and swarm them. He was one of the most terrifying guys because he can keep his pace up. 12 rounds, no fucking problem, iron chin.

• 16:18Speaker 01

  Like Dominic Cruz?

• 16:20Joe Rogan?

  But different, you know, it's like Julio, that's the final punch that dropped Meldrick Taylor.

• 16:24Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 16:25Joe Rogan?

  And that was one where it was a fucked up call because Richard Steele knew that Meldrick Taylor was out. But there was really only two seconds left in the fight, but he still has to wave it off because the dude can't fight.

• 16:36Speaker 01

  Right.

• 16:36Joe Rogan?

  So it's kind of crazy. So all these people were mad at Richard Steele because if he didn't do that, Meldrick Taylor would have won the decision. So he stops the fight with like two seconds to go. How many seconds was it when he called the fight off? I, I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say two seconds. It might've been five seconds.

• 16:51Speaker 01

  And what would you do in that situation then?

• 16:54Joe Rogan?

  Well, he's doing the right thing. The ref, the referee is there to save the fighter. If he takes one more punch in those two seconds and that one punch kills him.

• 17:03Speaker 01

  Right.

• 17:03Joe Rogan?

  That's him. It's on him.

• 17:05Speaker 03

  17 when he went down.

• 17:06Joe Rogan?

  So 17 he goes down. Well, so let's see what happens. So he gives him the, the count, which is a standing eight count. And then he looks at him and he asks him a couple of questions. Give me some volume.

• 17:18Joe Rogan?

  So, look, he's not looking at the clock, he's looking to save this guy. But look at, look at the wa- look at him. Look at him.

• 17:28Joe Rogan?

  He looked him in the eye, he wasn't there.

• 17:30Speaker 01

  Three seconds left.

• 17:31Joe Rogan?

  But he's doing the right thing. He's doing the right thing. It's crazy if there's three seconds left, but he is doing the right thing.

• 17:38Speaker 01

  It's because the referee's job is to make sure that they stay alive.

• 17:41Joe Rogan?

  Yes, protect the fighter.

• 17:43Speaker 01

  Because a fighter wouldn't make the right choice, you're saying?

• 17:45Joe Rogan?

  Right, that's why, that's why a referee has to protect a fighter from a cut. Like if the cut's too bad, the referee has to call it or bring in a doctor to call it. There's some times where the referee, it's, it's a judgment call and sometimes they get it wrong because they're human. But it's a crazy job, they have the hardest job in the world. So the guys like Herb Dean, the guys like Mark Goddard, those guys need more praise because it's, it's one of the most difficult jobs in all of combat sports, other than being a fighter. The second most difficult for sure is being a referee.

• 18:16Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 18:16Joe Rogan?

  Because you gotta make these calls, you're like in the middle of chaos in a world title fight where millions of people are watching. And you gotta keep this thing together in this very chaotic sport.

• 18:27Speaker 01

  That would be so tough. Yeah, I wonder, what are the requirements to be a referee? Like how much, you know, like to be one of those, um, like Mark Goddard or, um...

• 18:37Joe Rogan?

  Well, there's courses you can take. You know, um, I know Big John McCarthy was very instrumental in, uh, educating people. Herb Dean's very instrumental in doing this, there's a lot of these guys. Uh, Mark Goddard, they, they'll put together seminars and help guys that are coming up and there's probably a formal, let's see, it's a find out like what is the website that's like best for if someone wants to go and learn how to be a referee, but, you know...

• 19:03Speaker 01

  You could probably just pull up in Memphis and start blowing the whistle on a bunch of shit going down.

• 19:07Joe Rogan?

  Most of them are massive fans, of course, most of them train, like Mark Goddard trains. I believe, I believe Mark Goddard's a black belt in jiu-jitsu, we'll have to check that. Uh, Herb Dean I know had a few MMA fights.

• 19:19Speaker 01

  Oh, so they also have, a lot of them also have experience?

• 19:23Joe Rogan?

  You have to say of some, you have to know what's going on because sometimes, especially in like submissions and things like that, like it, things get complicated real quick.

• 19:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 19:32Joe Rogan?

  Like someone not letting go of an inside heel hook. And like, that's a scary one. There's like, do you remember Husamal Paul Harris?

• 19:39Speaker 01

  Uh-uh. No way.

• 19:41Joe Rogan?

  His that, his name was Tachino, which means, uh, tree trunk. That's like his, uh, his nickname.

• 19:48Speaker 01

  Husamal, he's Brazilian?

• 19:49Joe Rogan?

  Husamal Paul Harris. He was the scariest guy of all time. Because he was all leg locks, and he was built like a tank. He was like five eight, a hundred and eighty-five pounds, just this fucking ball of muscle. And he would dive on dude's legs and just rip them apart.

• 20:04Speaker 01

  Oh, like a python.

• 20:05Joe Rogan?

  And wouldn't let go. Wouldn't let go of the legs. So the guys would be tapping. He's the only guy to ever get kicked out of the UFC, winning.

• 20:12Speaker 01

  Because he was doing that?

• 20:13Joe Rogan?

  Cause he was holding submissions. They kicked him out. They said, "You can't do that."

• 20:16Speaker 01

  What do you mean, "You can't do it"? You can't do what?

• 20:18Joe Rogan?

  You gotta let go when the referee says, "Stop."

• 20:20Speaker 01

  Oh, he kept-

• 20:21Joe Rogan?

  Because he's crippling people.

• 20:22Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 20:23Joe Rogan?

  You wanna see a highlight that makes you cringe? Pull up Husamal Paul Harris submission highlights.

• 20:28Speaker 01

  Oh, I don't wanna see it, but I'll see-

• 20:30Joe Rogan?

  Jake Shields punched him in the face after their fight because he got a hold of a kimura, Jake tapped, and he still kept cranking on it. He would do that with guys. He just was a pit bull. He wouldn't let go. But there's an unsportsmanlike aspect to it for sure.

• 20:44Speaker 01

  Do you feel like that that's unsportsmanlike at a certain point? It seems like it is.

• 20:46Joe Rogan?

  One hundred percent. You know you're gonna cripple a guy. You know, if you keep twisting on a knee, he's gonna have to have surgery. You know, if a person taps, they, you, it's supposed to be, "That's it." You know? And there's the heat of the moment stuff, but then there's some people that just do it over and over and over again. And there's, you know, folks that are known for that. So, look at he would do, man. He would just get a hold of a guy. Look at his knee. Look, and he's still, he's tapping, and he's, that was with John Fitch. Show that one again. So he's tapping, so he gets this knee bar. This knee bar is awful. Look how bad it is. Tapping, and he's still cranking, still cranking.

• 21:22Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 21:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, still cranking. So it was like, he would hold on for an extra second or two, which is more than enough to destroy your knee.

• 21:28Speaker 01

  And they kicked him out.

• 21:29Joe Rogan?

  A second doesn't seem like a long time unless you're caught in a knee bar. That seconds, that's an eternity, where your, your knee is getting exploded, and you're tapping, and he won't let go. You gotta let go immediately when the person taps.

• 21:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:43Joe Rogan?

  When the referee stops the fight, you gotta let go immediately.

• 21:46Speaker 01

  Now, do you let go when the guy taps? Do you let go when the-

• 21:49Joe Rogan?

  Look at this here.

• 21:51Joe Rogan?

  The referee was on him, the guy screaming in agony, still cranky.

• 21:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, he might have had a vengeance, he might have had a.

• 21:58Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he was a mean dude, but he grew up very poor, on a farm, horrible upbringing, you know, it's like, there's a kind of a crazy story to it.

• 22:06Speaker 01

  Lot of pain.

• 22:07Joe Rogan?

  Lot of pain, grew up in extreme poverty. And, um, like this scar on his chest, this scar on his chest, like they had to glue a wound that he had as a child, like on the farm. They glued it together, that's why there's this big scar on his chest, just a hard man.

• 22:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 22:23Joe Rogan?

  And a scary dude, if you got a hold of your legs, because he wasn't gonna let go.

• 22:27Speaker 01

  God, I'm glad I don't know him. I mean, in some ways, you know.

• 22:32Joe Rogan?

  Well, you're glad you're not grappling with him.

• 22:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm glad I don't have to know him like adversely, um, damn dude. I can't believe we saw Shane too.

• 22:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, what did you say, he looked like a pickled egg?

• 22:44Speaker 01

  That's what you're saying.

• 22:46Joe Rogan?

  You right away, you hadn't seen him in how long? As soon as you saw Shane's in.

• 22:52Joe Rogan?

  Shane's in the sauna and you're like, you look like a pickled egg.

• 22:55Speaker 01

  Well, he looked like one of those kind of eggs, like in that, in that little cage or whatever at the gas station, you know?

• 23:00Joe Rogan?

  Those bucket eggs, the ones that are on the bars, the pickled, give me one of them pickled eggs. Do you know how fucking hungry you have to be?

• 23:10Joe Rogan?

  These fucking eggs, who knows how long they've been sitting there, you're like, yeah, give me one of them.

• 23:16Speaker 01

  There's always some trucker over there just bobbing for apples in the tank of them like.

• 23:23Joe Rogan?

  He looks so unsanitary.

• 23:26Speaker 01

  Bro, and the fart that rips out of your body off of that thing.

• 23:28Joe Rogan?

  How are you gonna ban Chick-fil-A, but you're not gonna ban that?

• 23:34Speaker 01

  Dude, that has to be RFK's arch nemesis right there.

• 23:39Joe Rogan?

  Imagine if you were living off those eggs, the farts you would have, if that's your only food source, like, let's imagine. You're like stuck on a boat in the middle of the ocean with only bottled eggs.

• 23:55Joe Rogan?

  After a while, your own farts are gonna make you jump in the ocean. You're like, I can't even be around myself.

• 24:03Speaker 01

  But there's a lot of like, there's that truckers high that they get from huffing their own gas. There's like a syndrome or something that starts from it. From people, just imagine, that can't be good for you, right? Caging yourself up at eighty miles an hour with your own farts?

• 24:21Speaker 01

  And just cruising state to state, just fucking.

• 24:24Joe Rogan?

  Just letting it go, baby. And the combination of things, ring dings and pork rinds and fucking Pepsi.

• 24:33Speaker 01

  Saying the, saying fag over and over again. Just all of that just compiled at once into you.

• 24:39Joe Rogan?

  And then listening to conspiracy theorists talk on podcasts all day.

• 24:45Speaker 01

  Just deep into fucking the murky waters of Alex Jones, just hopped up.

• 24:49Joe Rogan?

  I've been, I've been on social media a little too much lately.

• 24:53Speaker 01

  Yeah?

• 24:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I've been reading too many people fighting and arguing about stupid shit to the point where I'm starting to develop theories. And I don't, I don't want to.

• 25:04Speaker 01

  Like, what do you, well, I saw Alex Jones and he looks really good, doesn't he?

• 25:08Joe Rogan?

  He's losing all weight.

• 25:09Speaker 01

  He looks like he has to go to court for something.

• 25:10Joe Rogan?

  No, Sean, our friend Sean is helping him. He's, he's working out with him every day, yeah.

• 25:15Speaker 01

  Bro, I noticed it like in a month, I just saw like, and I was like, oh my god.

• 25:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's really committed. He's gonna do a documentary on it. He's gotta do a documentary on taking, taking back my health.

• 25:24Speaker 01

  It's, it's so noticeable, I was like, wow, he looks handsome.

• 25:27Joe Rogan?

  But this is fucking theories that it's not even him.

• 25:30Speaker 01

  Oh, really?

• 25:31Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's theories that they replaced him with a different guy. Yeah.

• 25:35Speaker 01

  Who did, though? That's always the thing.

• 25:38Joe Rogan?

  That's the thing. But here's the thing, I know that's not true. Like, I know the guy who's training him, I know him, like, I'm still in touch with him. Like, I text Alex all the time. I know him, he's just losing weight, but if you go online, there's a lot of people that believe that this is like a different person. There's a lot of people believe he's been co-opted by the government. There's a lot, like, he has to chime in on every single thing that everybody wants him to, otherwise he's been co-opted. And I'm starting to develop these theories where I don't know how much of that conversation is real. I certainly think there's a percentage of that conversation is real.

• 26:12Speaker 01

  What conversation you mean?

• 26:14Joe Rogan?

  When people think that people have been co-opted.

• 26:17Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 26:17Joe Rogan?

  By the government, like that they've become, what is that one that they like to use? Controlled opposition, that's all, if you want to pretend to be a smart conspiracy theorist, you have to say controlled opposition.

• 26:27Speaker 01

  I could easily see, bro, in two weeks, Tom's the girl will be playing this guy.

• 26:31Joe Rogan?

  He looks great, that's all it is, he looks great.

• 26:34Speaker 01

  He does, but he-

• 26:35Joe Rogan?

  But he doesn't look like the same person.

• 26:36Speaker 01

  Not at all, dude.

• 26:38Joe Rogan?

  Cause he's laid off the booze, he's laid off the booze, he's not eating any bullshit, I don't know, I don't even know if he's-

• 26:42Speaker 01

  Drinking a lot, bro.

• 26:44Joe Rogan?

  Really? Yeah, he's investigating-

• 26:45Speaker 01

  Can you bring this back up, please, one time, brother?

• 26:47Joe Rogan?

  Satanic pedophiles all day long.

• 26:49Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 26:49Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, sometimes you want to take the edge off.

• 26:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, bro, he fucking, I mean, he looks totally-

• 26:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 26:56Speaker 01

  Different now, he looks like, um, Ra- Randy, uh, Orton.

• 27:01Joe Rogan?

  Now, but imagine if this was no internet. Imagine there's no internet, so we don't know-

• 27:06Speaker 01

  You believe in a heartbeat it wasn't a rogue guy?

• 27:07Joe Rogan?

  Sure, there's no way that's the same guy. This guy on the left looks fifteen years younger.

• 27:12Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, dude, a chubby guy used to do the pool when I worked at this farm one time, he used to do the pool, and one year he got on, um, Dexatrim or some illegal fat burner or whatever, and he came and did the pool one time when I was there, and I didn't even believe it was him. And never believed it, totally different.

• 27:31Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 27:31Speaker 01

  So, yeah, if you didn't have stuff like this, you'd be like, that's not the same guy.

• 27:34Joe Rogan?

  So, this was just the television days, no social media?

• 27:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think that they recasted the guy, cause something happened to him over the offseason.

• 27:41Joe Rogan?

  One hundred percent, you would think, oh, someone replaced Alex Jones, with a fake Alex Jones.

• 27:46Speaker 01

  But he would tell you if that happened, right, he would be like, Joe, somebody-

• 27:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they replaced me, he would say they replaced me.

• 27:50Speaker 01

  They're sending somebody in.

• 27:51Joe Rogan?

  Who the fuck is gonna do his voice, there's only like four people alive, they could do a good Alex Jones impression. Are you, are you aware of the Elon Musk, Adrian Ditman controversy?

• 28:03Speaker 01

  That he- I saw something, there's a, they, they, they said he, that he was a fake person, that he made a fake.

• 28:10Joe Rogan?

  So it's, I think they call them sock puppet accounts.

• 28:13Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 28:13Joe Rogan?

  And it's, uh, it's generally frowned upon to have a fake account, like. It seems like it would be a fun way to fuck around online. I don't have one, but it seems like it would be a fun way to fuck around online.

• 28:26Speaker 01

  It takes a lot of time, it seems like.

• 28:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but you could have like a fake account where if you, if you're a public person. You know, like Elon Musk, and you wanna say some wild shit, but you don't wanna take responsibility for it. You just wanna shitpost like everybody else, like an anonymous person.

• 28:41Speaker 01

  Oh, that's true. He can't do that, really.

• 28:42Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I would say that would be a smart thing to do.

• 28:45Speaker 01

  Did it, was it really him? Did they find out?

• 28:47Joe Rogan?

  But is that, is that unethical, that when one person can call themselves, you know, cat turd? You know, that's a legit name for a dude. I don't know anything about that cat, but he can, that guy could just talk about anything he wants to talk about. But if Elon Musk does it, well, he has the responsibility of his public image, but maybe he doesn't want that.

• 29:05Speaker 01

  Right.

• 29:05Joe Rogan?

  Like if you, it's, I don't have a problem with either one of them.

• 29:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, sometimes you just wanna shed your skin, you just wanna take a layer off, and you wanna relax at the house, you wanna kick your feet up and yell something down the hallway you shouldn't yell.

• 29:16Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 29:17Speaker 01

  And that's what he wants to do.

• 29:18Joe Rogan?

  I think you should be allowed to do that.

• 29:19Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 29:20Joe Rogan?

  This is one of the problems with making the internet, you know, like taking away the anonymity, but here's my, my question. Because of that, right? So if people can just have fake accounts and people should be able to, which I think they definitely should be able to do. Be, because of that, though, then you have to wonder, when you see arguments, how many of these arguments are real people and their real opinions? And how many of these arguments are this giant block of accounts that's been purchased by a large organization? That is hiring people or using AI to have arguments with people and incite things online.

• 29:57Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 29:58Joe Rogan?

  It's not zero percent people. Now.

• 30:01Speaker 01

  No.

• 30:01Joe Rogan?

  I'm, I'm saying, like, if you have a personal belief in something, like, no, they're not bots, cuz I think that way, I, I'm not saying that you don't believe what you believe. And I'm, I'm not even saying that you're wrong. I'm saying. That if there's any hot button cultural topic, you can fucking guarantee that some of the people talking about it aren't real. Either they're not real in that these are not their real opinions, they're being told to say these things, or they might not even be a real human. They might be an algorithm, or they're a bunch of people that have been hired. Whenever there's hot button cultural issues or voting issues, or political issues, a lot of those people arguing are not real.

• 30:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 30:47Joe Rogan?

  And there's a real question as to what the number are. Like, how much of this is like real interaction between people? And how much of this is all of this meddling? That's being done, like they're changing the way people think about things and forcing, and arguing with these things all day, very persuasively on behalf of some sort of special interest group.

• 31:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think that sounds very plausible, especially these days, there's like, there's not as much, you know, it used to be that a lot of media was controlled by a few channels and networks, right? I mean, that's safe to say, would you agree with that?

• 31:23Joe Rogan?

  It was all controlled by a few channels.

• 31:25Speaker 01

  Right.

• 31:25Joe Rogan?

  It was all, I mean, all you had when we were kids. You had, I remember when cable came out, it was crazy.

• 31:32Speaker 01

  Really?

• 31:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 31:33Speaker 01

  What was before that?

• 31:34Joe Rogan?

  You had ABC, NBC, CBS, that's it.

• 31:38Speaker 01

  No.

• 31:38Joe Rogan?

  Yes, that's it, and then out of nowhere.

• 31:41Speaker 01

  You had three chances for?

• 31:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, Fox, Fox was crazy. Married with Children, The Simpsons. Fox was nuts. Fox was this wild network. So that was, that was the fourth, that was the fourth network.

• 31:53Speaker 01

  Married with Children was so good, dude.

• 31:55Joe Rogan?

  So good. So you have this fourth network, and then cable comes along, and then satellite, and now streaming and the internet, it's like, what? I don't even think we're aware of how much more content we absorb than people that were, you know, that lived like when I was 21.

• 32:13Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

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• 33:31Speaker 01

  Well, even if you're just by the airport or whatever, sometimes I wish they'd be like, can someone turn all this shit off? It's like, you don't even know what's going on anymore. In the middle of the night, I'll have like songs playing in my head that I heard on TikToks and shit. It's just bad. Like, it's gotten to be too much. But I think that there's, what I'm saying is if, if somebody had all that control at one point, or if a few networks did, there's no way that now that they have less control, they're not still trying to find that control. And that they're hiring different groups to beat Twitter bots or Twitter personalities or whatever.

• 34:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, make TikTok accounts, do TikToks about issues. People, look, people have said flat out that they were offered money and then they got paid money to...

• 34:16Joe Rogan?

  Make things for political people. Like make people, make people think that they were really excited about voting for someone, they would pay them for pro content.

• 34:26Speaker 01

  Right.

• 34:26Joe Rogan?

  So pro whatever that person is. But there's a whole business in this where they reach out to popular influencers and they say, hey, I want you to endorse this person. Would you do that for X amount of money?

• 34:39Speaker 01

  Well, didn't that happen with like Megan Thee Stallion or somebody? Didn't they, weren't they hired recently or some of the, and I'm sure the Republican Party did it too. I think that was a Democratic one that they had. Where they hire performers to come and perform?

• 34:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, this was, this was the big controversy. We tried to get to the bottom of it. It's hard to know. So the real, the accusation was that there was a few artists. Lizzo was one of them.

• 35:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, that too was Lizzo.

• 35:07Joe Rogan?

  Eminem was another one. Beyonce was the big one.

• 35:12Speaker 01

  Right.

• 35:12Joe Rogan?

  And that they were paid an exorbitant amount of money to go and endorse Kamala Harris at these rallies. I don't know if it's true. It seems like there might be something to it. They spent so much money, dude. It's so crazy that the economy is like one of the biggest problems that we think of today. Like you think of.

• 35:36Speaker 01

  Like what do you mean the economy?

• 35:37Joe Rogan?

  The economy. Like if, if people worried. The people, with people that want to vote on things, what do they want? They want the economy to be healthier. They want us to have less national debt.

• 35:46Speaker 01

  Safety?

• 35:47Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they want less inflation. They want safety, want low crime. If that is, the amount of fucking money they went through. Like you, you, you spent 1.5 billion dollars and you paid celebrities to, if that's true, you paid celebrities, you're like, how am I supposed to trust you?

• 36:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:11Joe Rogan?

  With spending money? You imagine if like, if you were gonna marry a gal and you just gave her access to your credit card, you're like, look, baby. You know, you and me, uh, we're in it now, so, uh.

• 36:25Speaker 01

  Here you go.

• 36:25Joe Rogan?

  I want you to be happy. And she just goes fucking ham.

• 36:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:29Joe Rogan?

  And she says, hey, I'm only doing this up until we get married.

• 36:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:34Joe Rogan?

  Because once then, then I'm, I'm all about a sensible budget. I'm, I'm all about fiscally being responsible.

• 36:41Speaker 01

  You couldn't believe that.

• 36:42Joe Rogan?

  You wouldn't believe it.

• 36:42Speaker 01

  Not at all.

• 36:43Joe Rogan?

  You'd be like, wait a minute, you've been going crazy with these fucking handbags and jewels and shit.

• 36:49Speaker 01

  He'd be like, I'm not marrying you then because, yeah, we have too much shit. I can't even see you in the apartment now.

• 36:55Joe Rogan?

  Also, I can't trust you with the credit cards. You're a fucking maniac.

• 36:58Speaker 01

  Dude, my, I had this roommate for a while, this dude, and he would get all high out in the living room and he would get, um, these empty boxes, cardboard boxes, and he had a couple cats and he'd get out there and he'd, um, and he would have them do, uh, tricks and stuff up the, up the box. He'd stack them really high in the living room. It's like a 20-foot ceiling. And he'd get stoned, he'd get upset if I didn't come out and watch. Fucking weird is that?

• 37:24Joe Rogan?

  Meanwhile, that guy can vote.

• 37:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 37:27Joe Rogan?

  That's, that's the kind of guys go, whoa, Megan Thee Stallion, is that who she's voting for? Well, fucking sign me up.

• 37:34Speaker 01

  He would get pissed if I didn't come out and watch, dude.

• 37:38Joe Rogan?

  That's what's crazy is like, they spend money to make sure that people think that famous people will vote for them.

• 37:45Speaker 01

  I don't think anybody, dude, I don't even believe that there's famous, famous this, uh, it doesn't even seem like a real thing anymore. It's like, like the other, like I was just texting with, uh, Nikki Glaser did the, um, whatever it's called.

• 37:58Joe Rogan?

  Golden Globes?

• 37:59Speaker 01

  Golden Globes, right?

• 38:00Joe Rogan?

  That's what it was, right?

• 38:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, she hosted the Golden Globes.

• 38:02Joe Rogan?

  I heard she killed it.

• 38:03Speaker 01

  She did a great job, right? She did a great job and she was like, just confident and fun and ri- just, it was awesome. She did a great job. Um, so I was just texting her and saying, hey, congrats, that was awesome. And, uh, and I said, were you, were you nervous at all? You know, there's a lot of famous people. And then she's like, no. And I was like, I, and then I was thinking, it doesn't it- It doesn't even seem like people are that fa- fame has kind of gotten different over the years. Does it seem like that at all? I think that some of the most popular people aren't, it used to just be like they were movie stars, you know? But now it seems like it's just changed, like you could have just as much infatuation for somebody that you saw that made an entertaining video on Instagram as you could for Tom Cruise, you know?

• 38:45Joe Rogan?

  Well, what-

• 38:45Speaker 01

  Do you know what I'm saying? Am I making any sense?

• 38:47Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well, I think one of the worst things that's happened to actors is they talk outside of acting. It's almost the worst thing you could do. Cause then everybody, it changes your opinion of who they are.

• 39:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:00Joe Rogan?

  You don't like them as much anymore, you know?

• 39:02Speaker 01

  Well, Hollywood all was always one way. Remember four years ago, you couldn't even say the word Trump or Republican and you would be fucking ostracized. I mean, it was like, or eight years ago?

• 39:12Joe Rogan?

  I'm sure it's probably still like that now in Hollywood. We're just not experiencing, cause you're living in Nashville and I'm living here in Texas. But if you're in certain circles in Los Angeles, they still feel the same way.

• 39:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:24Joe Rogan?

  You know, it's, um,

• 39:27Joe Rogan?

  it's just, uh, I wonder how much of the division in this country is caused by what we were talking about? By this thing that's legal? And again, I think it should be legal. I don't think you should have to tell your fucking name if you want to talk shit about something that's going on that affects your life. Or that affects your job, or that affects your kid's school. You shouldn't be subject to fucking prosecution because you said something about the school board. Because you just felt like being an anonymous person sitting there, a bunch of fat slobs and retards. And you wanted to say that, but you couldn't say that because then you would get in trouble, your kids would get in trouble and this and that.

• 40:05Speaker 01

  Well, that's what's happening in England right now, isn't it?

• 40:08Joe Rogan?

  It 100% is. It 100% is.

• 40:11Speaker 01

  Is that really happening?

• 40:12Joe Rogan?

  Yes, it's really happening. You can't give people that much fucking control. You can't give people that much control over what offends them or what offends people, what you could say, what you can't say.

• 40:25Speaker 01

  Can you imagine if we could, if, they would come at the end of every episode, they'd be waiting outside of your-

• 40:30Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, here's the thing, man. This is a new thing. This wasn't England 10 years ago, alright? This is a new thing. And it's a scary thing. It's a really scary thing. They, they arrested thousands of people for social media posts. Thousands.

• 40:44Speaker 01

  That's crazy. Were they threatening people?

• 40:46Joe Rogan?

  Well, this is what they're doing, man. First of all-

• 40:48Speaker 01

  No, no, were the people, were the posts threatening-

• 40:50Joe Rogan?

  No, no, no, no, no. They don't have to be. They don't have to be threatening.

• 40:54Speaker 01

  What?

• 40:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they could be misgendering. There's a lot of things that you could get in trouble for.

• 40:57Speaker 01

  Why be alive if you can't even think or say what you want?

• 41:00Joe Rogan?

  People could deem it racist, if it's anti-migrant, you know, they have a migrant crisis over there in Europe.

• 41:07Joe Rogan?

  People can deem it, you know, anti-migrant and Islamophobic and you can... There's a bunch of, you know, them that are threats. People threaten people online, which totally makes sense.

• 41:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 41:18Joe Rogan?

  You shouldn't be allowed to threaten people online. But when you get past that, if you have an opinion about something, about something that's affecting the country that you live in, I think you should be able to express yourself. And I don't necessarily think that, uh, people should know that it's you. I don't think you should have to carry that around. Like, you, you should be able to express yourself and not have to be famous. I don't, I don't think there's a problem with that.

• 41:44Speaker 01

  You mean to not have to have it be known? So you're saying that-

• 41:46Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 41:46Speaker 01

  Elon should be able to also have a separate voice if he wants to, or anyone should.

• 41:49Joe Rogan?

  But the problem is, if you do that, then you're gonna have corporations that are doing what we're suspecting that they're doing. And what this, uh, one former FBI analyst, we pulled up this article a thousand times, Jamie, but pull it up one more time, just 'cause it's just so crazy, you can't believe it's real. This guy was analyzing the, uh, amount of Twitter people that are bots. And this was a contentious issue, contentious aspect of the purchase when Elon bought Twitter. So when Elon bought Twitter, they were saying there's only 5% bots.

• 42:20Speaker 01

  I remember that.

• 42:20Joe Rogan?

  We sampled 100 people, 5% of them were bots. And he's like, "That's not enough. You have hundreds of millions of people that are signed up for this. How many of these people are fake? And they really didn't want to tell. They didn't, they just like, they just, "Not a lot, don't worry." It's like, you know-

• 42:37Speaker 01

  Yeah. How many bots were programmed to lie if they were asked if they're a bot?

• 42:41Joe Rogan?

  It's like a guy asking a girl, "How many guys have you slept with?"

• 42:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 42:45Joe Rogan?

  "A couple. Nothing. Nothing."

• 42:46Speaker 01

  Four.

• 42:47Joe Rogan?

  "Don't worry about it. I'm a former CIA cyber operations officer, studies bot traffic. Here's why it's plausible that more than 80%..." Of Twitter's accounts are actually fake and Twitter is not alone. More than eighty percent.

• 43:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:01Joe Rogan?

  See, I don't think we realize that because we're on there for real, we're real people on there. But your real people, where fake people are constantly arguing right in front of your face like the world is ending. And it's not necessarily all real people. There definitely are real people arguing on Twitter. Don't get me wrong. And I think even the fake people arguing is very addictive. And I think you wanna get involved too, cuz like you seen this guy dunk on that guy, I wanna fucking dunk on somebody.

• 43:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:31Joe Rogan?

  And then people are spending all their time in this job that they hate when no one's looking, the boss isn't around. You know, typing up some real witty nasty shit on Twitter. And

• 43:43Joe Rogan?

  I think there's

• 43:46Joe Rogan?

  you wanna be able to do that anonymously, but if you do have that and you don't know who's doing what.

• 43:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:53Joe Rogan?

  You do get to this point where someone can fucking manipulate it, but if you do know, then the problem is the government has already shown how fucking shady they are when someone comes out and says something that goes against what they agree with. Or what they're trying to push, or what agenda they have, or what's best for them financially. So they'll fucking throw the kitchen sink at you. We've seen them do that. You can't have those kinda people in power where they can know exactly who's saying what. You still have to have the ability to have whistleblowers. So you have this conundrum. On one side, you're gonna have this completely manipulated environment that's done by corporations and fake people and and and people that are paid by parties just to push the party line.

• 44:36Joe Rogan?

  And to go out there and debate it vigorously and argue it. They're paid to do it.

• 44:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 44:40Joe Rogan?

  And all you have is your wits. All you have is your ability to try to form your own opinions of things. Regardless of like where you feel like you're pulled because of whatever ideology you you know, you've publicly proclaimed to be. I'm I'm a liberal person. This is how I feel. I'm pro this, I'm pro that. And then

• 45:00Speaker 01

  Right.

• 45:00Joe Rogan?

  they'll start fighting about what that means.

• 45:04Speaker 01

  Which scares When that happens because then you also have locked yourself into a space where you might not change because you're afraid of what your public persona is.

• 45:12Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 45:13Speaker 01

  And that's gotta be.

• 45:14Joe Rogan?

  Well, that's how you get to Dick Cheney endorses comma Harris and the liberals like, yeah, boom. I saw this dude, he posted a atomic bomb gif and is like, after that happened, like, it's over, boom. Like, you guys are just dorks who don't play sports. Do you realize what kind of mental gymnastics you have to go through where Dick Cheney, rest in peace, where Dick Cheney?

• 45:37Speaker 01

  He passed away.

• 45:38Joe Rogan?

  He just passed away. Where Dick Cheney endorsing your liberal progressive candidate. That somehow or another, that's a good thing. The guy was the architect of the fucking architect of the Iraq invasion. Weapons of mass destruction host, all that shit.

• 45:55Speaker 01

  He was a slumberger guy, right?

• 45:57Joe Rogan?

  Scary guy, man.

• 45:58Speaker 01

  He was the oil guy, right? He couldn't put.

• 46:00Joe Rogan?

  Halliburton.

• 46:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, Halliburton.

• 46:01Joe Rogan?

  From Halliburton.

• 46:02Speaker 01

  Fuck.

• 46:03Joe Rogan?

  Bro.

• 46:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, that was bizarre. I mean, that's the thing.

• 46:06Joe Rogan?

  Gymnastics.

• 46:07Speaker 01

  Everything's gotten so bizarre, dude.

• 46:10Joe Rogan?

  He's not dead? No. Oh, it's a fake report? Yeah. Fake Dick Cheney death report came from RT parody account. Those motherfuckers.

• 46:18Speaker 01

  Here we go, bro.

• 46:19Joe Rogan?

  They got me. But this is the thing. It's like, you can't tell what the fuck is true. Well, first of all, how's he still alive? You know? How many soccer players do we lose this year? Midfield, massive heart attacks, just running down the street. People are dying.

• 46:35Speaker 01

  And list.

• 46:35Joe Rogan?

  And somehow or another, Dick Cheney's still alive.

• 46:38Speaker 01

  Dick Cheney's still out there twerking.

• 46:39Joe Rogan?

  Different heart.

• 46:40Speaker 01

  Yeah. That's what they're doing now.

• 46:41Joe Rogan?

  Fake heart.

• 46:42Speaker 01

  I'm sure he does. I'm sure he's on his sixth or seventh heart. A lot of these, you don't think politicians are getting fucking separate hearts and organs, dude? You don't think they're first in line when they fucking?

• 46:52Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, for sure. That's probably part of like, if you're gonna open up a hospital, this is what I want. The moment my shit goes south. I want, I want a doctor ready with his hands scrubbed.

• 47:02Speaker 01

  Yeah. Oh, I bet there's a sick Ross shot out there somewhere and every month they're putting a new ticker into him.

• 47:07Joe Rogan?

  Dude, I was. Reading a uh, a story last night about this dude who was one of the, I think he was Rockefeller. Uh, who got eaten. See if that's, I believe he was one of the Rock, Rock, Rothschilds or Rockefellers. God damn it. One of them fancy people. When you hear the name, you're like, oh, that fancy family. One of those. So this dude went to New Guinea and got eaten by cannibals.

• 47:32Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 47:32Joe Rogan?

  Apparently he went there.

• 47:34Speaker 01

  I'd hate.

• 47:35Joe Rogan?

  Michael Rockefeller. So apparently he went there, um, and they were fine, they were fine with him the first time he went there. But he was trying to get something from them and the something that he was trying to get from them was sacred.

• 47:48Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 47:48Joe Rogan?

  And apparently they were very pissed off at him. So, uh, he didn't know that they were pissed off at him. So when he went back, he thought they'd be friendly with him.

• 47:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:56Joe Rogan?

  And they killed him and ate him.

• 47:57Speaker 01

  Oh, my gosh.

• 47:58Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. And then they hid it. They hid the story forever. So they went looking for this guy like, hey, uh, my rich cousin is missing. Where is he? And they're like, I don't know.

• 48:08Speaker 01

  They just.

• 48:09Joe Rogan?

  Fucking burp. They just ate that dude.

• 48:12Speaker 01

  They just, somebody just coughs up a, uh, one of those, um, things that keeps your, uh, what is that thing that goes on the end of your shirt, Joe?

• 48:20Joe Rogan?

  Your cuff?

• 48:21Speaker 01

  A cuff link?

• 48:22Joe Rogan?

  Oh, cuff link.

• 48:23Speaker 01

  I just fucking.

• 48:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 48:24Speaker 01

  Somebody just coughs up a cuff link.

• 48:25Joe Rogan?

  Hey, let me give a shout out to the person who's, uh, it was on their YouTube channel because, uh, I can't remember. Most of the details of the story. But if you go to this dude's YouTube channel, he lays it out.

• 48:39Speaker 01

  I'll try to find a hat that matched with y'all's curtain in here.

• 48:41Joe Rogan?

  This is perfect. You nailed it.

• 48:43Speaker 01

  Thanks.

• 48:44Joe Rogan?

  I get it in here somewhere. I have a real problem with these goddamn YouTube videos. I'm watching too much. I'm absorbing a lot. I'm learning things.

• 48:52Speaker 01

  But do you think like, um,

• 48:55Speaker 01

  like you talked about, uh, Islamophobia?

• 49:00Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 49:01Speaker 01

  In Britain?

• 49:03Joe Rogan?

  Uh. Did I talk about it? What do you mean?

• 49:06Speaker 01

  Or did you mention it a minute ago, Islamophobia?

• 49:08Joe Rogan?

  Well, we were talking about migrants. We were talking about the migrant crisis. We didn't, weren't necessarily saying Islamophobia. I think there's a, you know, it's like the migrant crisis in the United States. It's not a crisis of one type of individual coming in. The idea is that you want to be able to vet everybody who comes in. From, no matter what, whether they're from Guatemala, or they're from Syria. You want to find out who the fuck they are. You don't want to let in criminals and psychopaths. That's, it's all that simple. And if you start, you know, blocking off people's ability to do that. I always have to wonder, like, what are you trying to do?

• 49:49Joe Rogan?

  If you're just trying to let everybody in and not check, are you trying to create chaos? Is that what you want? Because that's what I would do if I was an evil person and I wanted to fuck up an entire civilization. I would just let criminals in. I would encourage criminals to go there. I would release them out of my jails and give them money to go north.

• 50:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:09Joe Rogan?

  You could just walk across to America. We're gonna pay you to do it.

• 50:12Speaker 01

  Well, I think you have a lot of people that have like, that believe in some sort of a moral and ethical code. And they feel like they don't have a place to be sometimes, you know?

• 50:24Joe Rogan?

  Well, there's also some people that grow up and they just got fucked by the world. They just got brought to a real bad spot and they started off way worse than you and I.

• 50:33Speaker 01

  For sure.

• 50:34Joe Rogan?

  And that's the reality of if you want to keep a healthy society, you have to keep those fucking people out. Like, the world is not fair. It's not fair. And if you want to protect the best aspects of the world, you gotta keep them safe. And then spread out, spread out that safety from there. It's not let in all the bad. It's spread out the safety. It's like, the way to do it isn't to just let all the criminals in and then, oh, well, now we all live with crime. Like, no, that's stupid. The way to do it is to solve the crime problem in an area and then expand that area ever greater across the world. That is totally doable. That's totally doable. You're never gonna stop all crime. But you can minimize it significantly with a concerted effort, which is not being done. They're not doing that.

• 51:20Joe Rogan?

  And there's a bunch of different things that they have to do. Instead of just hiring cops to fuck people up, they should train cops better. They should pay them more, they should make them more respected.

• 51:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, I saw the-

• 51:29Joe Rogan?

  Make, make people appreciate cops, instead of like, think of them as the enemy.

• 51:33Speaker 01

  I agree, we always thought that cops were reliable, but then I guess some cultures have different experiences with cops. But these days, cops are so diverse that it's like you couldn't have a, like, you'd almost have to be a, uh, alien or something to have a racial issue, it feels like sometimes, you know?

• 51:50Joe Rogan?

  Well, I think cops are just like all, all kinds of people. And the problem with all people is they're gonna vary. There's gonna be some people that can handle pressure and, and some people that can handle having power and being a boss.

• 52:02Speaker 01

  Oh, that's a good point.

• 52:03Joe Rogan?

  You got good bosses. I've had great bosses, who are great guys. They made you happy to work with them. You knew they were the boss, but it was a cool situation. And then you got people that are cunts, just because they're bosses. You got this guy that just won't stop talking down to you, cause he knows he can get away with you, cause you need the job.

• 52:20Speaker 01

  Ah.

• 52:20Joe Rogan?

  He can get away with shitting on you. You've all had that, too. And those, that's, that's the problem with being a cop. Like, some people are just not good at having power over people, and some people are great with it. And then there's the reality of the stress that they face. Every fucking day you might get shot. Every day you're pulling people over. What is the worst thing that's gonna happen to you in your day? Oh, oh, did someone open their door on your car? Oh.

• 52:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, someone whistle at you, cause you had big tits or whatever?

• 52:46Joe Rogan?

  I saw a ten-year-old get their face shot in.

• 52:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 52:48Joe Rogan?

  You know, I saw a little girl get run over by a car. I saw horrible murder scenes. You know, they, they're, they're going upon car accidents every day. You're seeing so much awful shit. You're dealing with, and then every time you pull somebody over, every cop has seen those videos. Of people pulling people over and just getting lit, lit with bullets, just da-da-da-da-da-da, fall into the ground. There's so many of those videos. Getting your gun taken away from you, getting shot and killed.

• 53:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 53:17Joe Rogan?

  We've all seen those videos.

• 53:18Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 53:18Joe Rogan?

  They're fucking horrible.

• 53:19Speaker 01

  That's at Walmart everywhere. A lot of that shit, it's like, there's just so much violence now.

• 53:23Joe Rogan?

  There's this one where this guy was beating up this female cop, and his daughter was telling her to, telling him to stop. The daughter was trying to get him to stop beating this cop to death.

• 53:35Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 53:35Joe Rogan?

  You're like, oh my god. So, like, that job is not a normal fucking job. And when people don't have respect for it and don't appreciate it, it's a, it's a sign of the, the sickness of society. It's the, the illness of society that we don't appreciate law and order. And we think of it as something that somehow or another, that it's uniquely oppressive. And that with, without it being there, you'd have less problems. So there was that, that was all that defund the police thing.

• 54:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:07Joe Rogan?

  Which is just, we should have learned from that. And I hope a lot of people did. Like, that's a terrible idea. The problem is not cops. The, the problem is cops are human. And they, they have to stay human, otherwise you're gonna get fucking robo-cop.

• 54:23Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 54:23Joe Rogan?

  So what are, what are we gonna do?

• 54:25Speaker 01

  Robocop could easily get hijacked too. That's another issue. It's like, a lot of sci, like,

• 54:29Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 54:30Speaker 01

  If there were cyber attacks, like, um, where they wanted every, uh, electric vehicle or something to just go drive off a cliff. They could just control, like,

• 54:39Joe Rogan?

  One hundred percent.

• 54:40Speaker 01

  If they wanted every oven to just heat to two hundred and fifty degrees and just burn down every house.

• 54:45Joe Rogan?

  Sure.

• 54:45Speaker 01

  Like, if something got hacked, you know, it'd be very spooky. So, yeah, if cops got hacked, bro, that would be crazy. And then also, they could just say they hacked it. Like, you could have a dirty entity hack the cops and use them for whatever they want. And then who do you even sue with that? What are you gonna even, you know, they're not even people, you gonna put a robot on the stand?

• 55:03Joe Rogan?

  Well, you also, you would have to know what kind of, like, hacking is even possible and whether or not it can be detected. Cause if they're doing it wirelessly, like, can they do it wi, like, Jamie, you would probably know this. Can you hack something wirelessly from an anonymous account? And like, get into a system and no one knows who did it? Or is everything ultimately traceable if they could find the source of the invasion?

• 55:31Speaker 03

  I think when you get to that high level of stuff, they're going to hacker like the the pointer to doing the attack goes through so many levels to try to hide where they're going from.

• 55:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, so they can hide somewhat. And also, how many of those guys that are like operating at that level even exist?

• 55:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:50Joe Rogan?

  How many of those like super high level hackers are out there? And everybody else is just kind of at the mercy like if you like try understanding that if you don't do that.

• 56:00Speaker 01

  It's impossible.

• 56:01Joe Rogan?

  So how is a judge gonna understand it? How's uh who's gonna understand it?

• 56:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 56:05Joe Rogan?

  How are the cops gonna understand it?

• 56:07Speaker 01

  Right, it's kind of yeah, it's gotta be weird if you know that much stuff, you're kind of in a world of your own.

• 56:11Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah, if you're like a super Bitcoin creator type dude, you're in a world of your own. You're you're existing in the the most sophisticated layers of the technological power of the likes the world's never seen before, never seen anything like it. And you're the people that are at the head of the code. You're the people that are making AI.

• 56:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, you're like crypto for Columbus or whatever. You're the fucking.

• 56:38Joe Rogan?

  Crypto for Columbus is great. Bro, that's great.

• 56:42Speaker 01

  Dude, if people, that's why I've said this for years, people with autism are the they're the link between regular people and machines. It's that's where we're headed. It's all no in seven, two generations, everyone will have autism, you won't be able to find anybody that doesn't have it or that doesn't like kind of freak out if like somebody's like whistling or whatever.

• 57:05Joe Rogan?

  It's it's almost like whatever the reason why more people have autism today, I'm sure there's a bunch of people that think it's vaccines, there's a bunch of people that think it's environmental issues, there's a bunch of people think it's.

• 57:16Speaker 01

  It's Chick-fil-A, some people probably.

• 57:17Joe Rogan?

  Could be, could be Doritos.

• 57:20Speaker 01

  I'll take it though dude, it's so fucking good. There's no way you wouldn't take some Chick-fil-A autism dude if they had it, bro.

• 57:27Speaker 01

  If you're like every now and then, just a weird guy runs out of the back room with a couple pickles on his back, dude, I'd fucking be like, I love this guy no matter what he has, you know?

• 57:37Joe Rogan?

  I totally forgot what I was gonna say.

• 57:39Speaker 01

  Sorry dude.

• 57:40Joe Rogan?

  But it was, it had something to do with autism, that, oh, what we were talking about, like-

• 57:45Speaker 01

  Oh, I think that this is the end of that rant.

• 57:47Joe Rogan?

  So, just imagine-

• 57:48Speaker 01

  Alright.

• 57:49Joe Rogan?

  So, there's, whatever the reason why there's more cases of autism, most people, I think, will agree, there are more cases of autism now than ever before.

• 57:59Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 58:00Joe Rogan?

  But what meaningful changes have we done, if any, to try to limit that? Or to try to mitigate that, or pull that back? I'm not sure. And what meaningful, like, like, what progress has been made, where you're saying, like, "Oh, now we have 20% less autistic kids." So, if- This episode is brought to you by The Farmer's Dog. Here's a fun fact: research shows that dogs who maintain a healthy weight can live up to two and a half years longer, on average, than dogs who are overweight. Isn't that wild? And also kind of obvious at the same time? So, why is feeding vague scoops of ultra-processed kibble still the status quo for most dog owners? Healthy alternatives exist, and trust me, I know.

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• 1:00:42Joe Rogan?

  So if that's not the case, and yet we're in the greatest technological time that we've ever been aware of, and people have more access to information now than ever before, why, why is it moving in that direction? And maybe that is a natural thing. Maybe all this transgender shit where everybody's like, oh my God, like I am so sick of hearing there's boys and there's girls and that's it. Maybe when you find out about plastics and the things that's happening to the human body because it's fucking with our endocrine system and it's shrinking people's genitals and shrinking people's taints and lowering testosterone levels and causing more miscarriages, causing more miscarriages.

• 1:01:23Joe Rogan?

  If you were watching this play out, if you were not connected to us, and if you were like from another planet and you're like, what is this thing doing? Oh, so this is a very complicated animal and this animal gets involved in various plastics and metals and it has a symbiotic relationship with plastics and metals where the plastics and metals, it gives them... Cars and handbags and television sets. But it also robs them of their primal essence and slowly turns them into these genderless weird creatures that can only survive by replicating through their DNA.

• 1:02:04Speaker 01

  Dude, well said, bro.

• 1:02:06Joe Rogan?

  Cause if you're, if you were looking at it from somewhere else and you were looking at, well, what are we addicted to? We're addicted to electronics? And we're addicted to plastic.

• 1:02:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:02:13Joe Rogan?

  We use plastic for everything.

• 1:02:15Speaker 01

  And we're willing to sacrifice something for it.

• 1:02:17Joe Rogan?

  Dude, I was reading this whole thing about petroleum in the healthcare industry. And like health and wellness and like oils and shit, like how much petroleum is used in all this? It's everywhere. It's just everywhere. It's bizarrely everywhere.

• 1:02:33Speaker 01

  Petroleum is?

• 1:02:33Joe Rogan?

  Petroleum is.

• 1:02:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:02:34Joe Rogan?

  So you've got oil and you've got plastics and you've got all of these weird funky phthalates and chemicals and pesticides and herbicides and we're all aware of it. Like this is really a problem. This is really a problem. I'm fucking blasting the air. It's all over your food. Like this could be a problem. Cause everyone's on fucking Monsanto.

• 1:02:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, nobody can sleep anymore.

• 1:02:56Joe Rogan?

  Everywhere. And everyone's like, well, we'll certainly get to the bottom of that. Once we make it safer for queer kids.

• 1:03:05Joe Rogan?

  And then slowly, we're going to get to a point of no return. Where our genetics are fucked by our environmental pollutants, which have only existed over the last couple hundred years. So our genetics get fucked by these environmental pollutants and they're like giant changes in human testosterone levels just from the nineteen seventies. Giant changes.

• 1:03:23Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, dude.

• 1:03:24Joe Rogan?

  So I think if you're on that path and you're, you're clearly on that path, we're, we are as a human race, we're clearly on that path.

• 1:03:32Speaker 01

  Fast.

• 1:03:33Joe Rogan?

  And we're also at the same time on the path of artificial intelligence. It's like, how much time do we really have? How much time do we really have here?

• 1:03:43Speaker 01

  What if this though, what if a trans kid, how many trans people are there?

• 1:03:49Joe Rogan?

  They're all trans now. Everybody.

• 1:03:51Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:03:52Joe Rogan?

  The whole country is trans.

• 1:03:53Speaker 01

  What if this?

• 1:03:54Joe Rogan?

  I think they've backed off a lot of, a lot of people have decided that they really didn't want to do it anymore.

• 1:03:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:04:00Joe Rogan?

  There's quite a few and they get, people get mad at them, which is really wild.

• 1:04:03Speaker 01

  When they, when they, um.

• 1:04:05Joe Rogan?

  People get mad at them for changing their mind.

• 1:04:06Speaker 01

  Have you interviewed anybody that has gone down the surgery path and didn't, did, and didn't want to have the surgery? Have you ever talked to somebody like that?

• 1:04:14Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 1:04:15Speaker 01

  Just curious what that whole, what that world is like.

• 1:04:17Joe Rogan?

  Everybody's got their own weird thing with that because it's a weird thing. Like you're, you don't like your sexual organs that you're born with, you identify with another gender, or at least you think you do. At least like you identify with what they like more than what the boys like.

• 1:04:36Joe Rogan?

  You're probably just gay. And that's one of the things that they've studied is when they leave transgender or supposedly transgender youths and they don't do anything, they eventually become gay men.

• 1:04:47Speaker 01

  Oh, I see.

• 1:04:48Joe Rogan?

  Big, big percentage of them.

• 1:04:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:04:51Joe Rogan?

  Does that mean they're all like that and some people don't like genuinely have like true gender dysphoria? No, that's always been a thing too.

• 1:04:59Speaker 01

  And being gay used to seem like if you were just gay, that was everything. It was like, it was like, but I guess.

• 1:05:06Joe Rogan?

  Everything?

• 1:05:06Speaker 01

  It was like gay didn't, it was like, oh, if you, if you were trans or any, now it's LGBTQI, right?

• 1:05:13Joe Rogan?

  Oh, there's also, yeah, there's intersex, there's two, plus.

• 1:05:17Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:05:17Joe Rogan?

  What is plus? Which one is plus?

• 1:05:19Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 1:05:20Joe Rogan?

  I know two is two spirit, which is my favorite.

• 1:05:23Speaker 01

  Really? I know I'm gonna need.

• 1:05:25Joe Rogan?

  They took the kooky two spirit people and.

• 1:05:27Speaker 01

  The Native Americans?

• 1:05:28Joe Rogan?

  No, two spirit is like a, a, a very specific, like, let's Google it. Two spirit is like, you think you're like Foxkin or some shit like that.

• 1:05:37Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 1:05:38Joe Rogan?

  Well, they, they, this is where I found out that, I, I might be fucking up what two spirit is, but this is where I found out about this stuff because, uh, my, a buddy of mine who lives in Utah, his wife, uh, worked at a public school. And he told me that she told him that they were having a meeting because one of the parents had, uh, proposed putting a litter box in the bathroom because their kid thinks it's a cat.

• 1:06:05Speaker 01

  Oh, that's crazy.

• 1:06:06Joe Rogan?

  Uh, and he told me that, I talked about it on podcasts and people started saying that that was transphobic. And this is a transphobic lie. And I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

• 1:06:18Speaker 01

  So it wasn't a real story, you mean?

• 1:06:19Joe Rogan?

  But first of all, what does that have to do with transgender? What does that have to do with that? You're talking about someone who thinks they're a cat. How is that transphobic?

• 1:06:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:06:28Joe Rogan?

  And then I realized, like, oh, there's a lot of things connected in this one group that are not the same thing. Like, they're just trying to lump in every idea. Like, say if you only have, like, you know, the Electoral College, you get like a couple of points in this state, but if you win like ten fucking states, you got a big coalition, you can get in the White House.

• 1:06:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:06:47Joe Rogan?

  You know? So it's like, if you can't, just transgender people on their own, too many people like, no, you can't go into the women's room. Get out of here. But then you add them to the gays.

• 1:06:57Speaker 01

  Oh, I see.

• 1:06:58Joe Rogan?

  You add them to the queers, which is like, what does that mean? You know, and then if you're-

• 1:07:03Speaker 01

  And you're more of a buffet of folks.

• 1:07:04Joe Rogan?

  Are you in, okay, two-spirit people, maybe straight, gay, bisexual, asexual, or queer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. They're the people that want to pretend the most. I'm everything. I'm a boy.

• 1:07:15Speaker 01

  Right, they want to play the shell game, kinda.

• 1:07:18Joe Rogan?

  You're a fucking narcissist, probably. You're probably a loon. Or, maybe you really have this two-spirit thing. I don't know. But there's a variety of things that are true at the same time. You know, you're gonna have people that are kooky, and you're also gonna have people that unfortunately really do wish they were born a girl.

• 1:07:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:07:36Joe Rogan?

  Both those things are real. But the thing about us as a species, if you're looking at these drops that are all clearly established markers in terms of testosterone levels, miscarriages, um, men who are, um, incapable of having children, low sperm counts, smaller testicles and penises, like, we're moving in the gen- we're moving in a direction of looking like those fucking aliens.

• 1:08:03Speaker 01

  Well, that's what I've, I've said this for years. If you look at an alien, their head is big.

• 1:08:06Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:07Speaker 01

  Cause that's the only thing that's going still.

• 1:08:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:09Speaker 01

  And their body is this useless sort of fucking, uh, Christmas ornament.

• 1:08:13Joe Rogan?

  Spindly, genderless thing.

• 1:08:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:08:17Joe Rogan?

  Not genderless, like, no tits?

• 1:08:19Speaker 01

  That's stuck under a weighted blanket, too, probably, dude.

• 1:08:21Joe Rogan?

  Trapped.

• 1:08:22Speaker 01

  Bro, if you want to stop an alien, throw one weighted blanket on that bad boy.

• 1:08:26Joe Rogan?

  I bet they don't interact with things.

• 1:08:29Speaker 01

  Well, of course they don't because everything happens in their head. It's all built in at that point. Why do you even need if you can just blink and come or whatever? You just, you know, you fucking blink again and you have a mortgage? And then you fucking cough and your fucking parents are deceased. It's just like-

• 1:08:43Joe Rogan?

  There's no non, non-aware language. You, you, you speak every language. You know every fact about everything on earth. At any given moment, it's all in your head. There's no questions.

• 1:08:55Speaker 01

  There's no-

• 1:08:56Joe Rogan?

  You have no dick.

• 1:08:57Speaker 01

  You have no mouth.

• 1:08:58Joe Rogan?

  You can't even enjoy food. You have no mouth.

• 1:09:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, dude. Well, if I got a dick, you got a mouth, dude.

• 1:09:04Joe Rogan?

  Let's party!

• 1:09:05Speaker 01

  Food's second.

• 1:09:06Joe Rogan?

  Let's party!

• 1:09:08Speaker 01

  I'm catching a BJ. I don't know.

• 1:09:11Joe Rogan?

  I'm a fucking alien. Imagine getting head from an alien. Imagine you wake up in the middle of the night, like you're having a crazy sex dream. And you're like, oh my god. Like, you, you're getting, like, you ever have a dream where you're having sex?

• 1:09:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:09:23Joe Rogan?

  You think in the dream you're actually having sex and it feels real. Guys coming in their pants.

• 1:09:26Speaker 01

  Oh, I had a dream. I was on an airplane one time, dude. I was flying to Philadelphia, right? And I had a dream that I was doing oral sex, right?

• 1:09:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:35Speaker 01

  And, uh, and I was just kinda like that in the air and this old dude fucking shook me and he's like, "Get it together."

• 1:09:41Joe Rogan?

  Whoa.

• 1:09:42Speaker 01

  I was on the plane. It was just-

• 1:09:43Joe Rogan?

  He told you to get it together.

• 1:09:44Speaker 01

  Well, yeah, I was eating air pussy. What are you talking about? I think at that point, at that point, it's okay if somebody shakes you.

• 1:09:52Joe Rogan?

  Imagine if you open your eyes and an alien was blowing you.

• 1:09:55Speaker 01

  I bet it's like-

• 1:09:55Joe Rogan?

  And you just feel trapped. You're paralyzed. The alien is just sucking your dick, looking you in the eyes. Big insect eyes. Could you imagine?

• 1:10:04Speaker 01

  No, dude.

• 1:10:05Joe Rogan?

  Bro, fuck Stephen King. That's a real horror movie. Could you imagine you're paralyzed and an alien is sucking your dick?

• 1:10:13Speaker 01

  What sound does it make? I bet it makes a sound like a-

• 1:10:15Joe Rogan?

  Slurpee.

• 1:10:18Joe Rogan?

  They, they overexaggerate. They give you like a caricaturized version of our porn films. We know they like it when you make a lot of noise. They're gonna be gagging.

• 1:10:32Speaker 01

  But they're not even moving, it's just a feeling and making the noise. Or it also has that light, you know like whenever you make a Xerox copy of something and that fucking light goes down in back, it's like that.

• 1:10:43Speaker 01

  I wouldn't want that. Dude, what was I seeing the other day? They're having, uh, gay, uh, animals now? Is that?

• 1:10:50Joe Rogan?

  They were having gay animals? What are you saying?

• 1:10:52Speaker 01

  If you pull that up, Jamie, if you see anything of it. Or that animals-

• 1:10:56Joe Rogan?

  What kind of request is that?

• 1:10:57Speaker 01

  Well, I'm just saying, if you see, um-

• 1:11:00Joe Rogan?

  Bro, animals fuck couches. They fuck your leg.

• 1:11:03Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:11:04Joe Rogan?

  You ever have a dog?

• 1:11:05Speaker 01

  Well, some of them-

• 1:11:05Joe Rogan?

  Dogs will grab a hold of your leg. They know your leg isn't a female dog. They don't care. They grab a hold of your leg. Does that mean he's gay? No, it means he's crazy horny.

• 1:11:14Speaker 01

  But no, I was seeing something where they were trying to have a hot, it's like a upscale meat or beef that comes from a gay-

• 1:11:21Joe Rogan?

  Why, this one, hold on to this. Why are scientists ignoring all the gay animals? Go down to that, cause this fuck-

• 1:11:27Speaker 01

  It's a great question.

• 1:11:28Joe Rogan?

  There's a study. This, this is like those, that James Lindsay, Helen Pluckrose-

• 1:11:35Joe Rogan?

  Peter Boghossian thing. Uh, what is it, what does it say? Can I read the headline? Why are scientists ignoring all the gay animals?

• 1:11:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:11:44Joe Rogan?

  Imagine, like, you're a scientist and, you know, you're trying to figure out how old the universe is. And that, that's the complaint you read first thing in the morning and you're like, hey, hey, hey, hey! There's other shit to worry about!

• 1:11:58Speaker 01

  You telling me this otter ain't a homosexual?

• 1:12:01Joe Rogan?

  I'm trying to figure out how old the fucking universe is. That's why. There's not a lot of federal funding for gay animals.

• 1:12:08Speaker 01

  Oh, there is now, I bet.

• 1:12:09Joe Rogan?

  Bro, you have to get funding for this stuff.

• 1:12:11Speaker 01

  I'm sure we spent a bill on it, dude.

• 1:12:13Joe Rogan?

  Yo, that was, uh, another thing that was crazy about the Harris campaign was, uh, when you found out that they can pay activist groups. They give, give donations to activist groups. Like, large sums of money.

• 1:12:28Speaker 01

  To activist groups?

• 1:12:29Joe Rogan?

  Like, why? So that these people will endorse them.

• 1:12:33Speaker 01

  Oh, I see.

• 1:12:35Joe Rogan?

  There's an accusation that she gave, uh, what's that dude's name? Who's on MSNBC? The old dude?

• 1:12:42Speaker 01

  Don Leonard?

• 1:12:43Joe Rogan?

  No, no, no, no, no. Tom Leonard, you combined two names. Don Lemon and who, Sugar Ray Leonard.

• 1:12:49Speaker 01

  Don Lemon. Yeah. Hey, bro.

• 1:12:52Joe Rogan?

  No, Al Sharpton.

• 1:12:53Speaker 01

  Don's got, Don's got a little more sugar than Ray Leonard, I think. To be honest. No judgment, dude. But I'll tell you this.

• 1:13:01Joe Rogan?

  That's maple syrup.

• 1:13:02Speaker 01

  Gay animal, bro. Gay animal meat is gonna be the new thing. You telling me you're at a restaurant, right?

• 1:13:08Joe Rogan?

  Right, to be a gay lamb.

• 1:13:10Speaker 01

  And they're like, hey, okay, you can have this lamb, seventy dollar, this shank. Or you could have this sweet little lamb shank over here for ninety bucks.

• 1:13:20Joe Rogan?

  The best of both worlds. So it's got the firmness of male.

• 1:13:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:13:24Joe Rogan?

  What else has that sweet tenderness of female?

• 1:13:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's also been basted from the inside, you know? I think there's, you tell them you're not gonna get a gay steak, dude, for an extra twenty bucks. You're not gonna try it?

• 1:13:35Joe Rogan?

  Especially if you're LGBT friendly. You wanna support the gay steak market.

• 1:13:38Speaker 01

  You have to.

• 1:13:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:40Speaker 01

  That's the next thing, though.

• 1:13:42Joe Rogan?

  They start cheating, though, and encouraging straight cows to fuck each other. Just because they want that, because they realize there's more money in gay steaks.

• 1:13:53Speaker 01

  You're like, I'll take a steak. You're like, is it gay? You fucking better be, buddy.

• 1:13:57Joe Rogan?

  In the attention market that is social media, there has to be a few people out there that are pretending to be gay that aren't. Like, here's a good example.

• 1:14:05Speaker 01

  Oh, for sure.

• 1:14:05Joe Rogan?

  Here's a good example. There were a bunch of girls and people got mad at them because they're hot, female, OnlyFans girls, and they started putting fake dicks in their, in their pants.

• 1:14:17Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:14:17Joe Rogan?

  And pretending that they're trans. Cause that was getting them a lot more views.

• 1:14:22Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:14:23Joe Rogan?

  So apparently, the way to get a lot of views is to be a really hot, trans person. Like, really hot, trans people are in right now. Like, really hot, like, girl, like, a super hot girl with a hog on ya.

• 1:14:38Speaker 01

  With this smoker.

• 1:14:39Joe Rogan?

  Big ol' hog on ya. So people got mad and started saying that my identity is not your costume. Like, the actual trans people.

• 1:14:48Speaker 01

  Cultural appropriation, kinda.

• 1:14:49Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but like, ay!

• 1:14:51Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:14:52Joe Rogan?

  Aren't you doing that? Aren't you doing that? You have a dick and you're saying you're a girl. And then these girls who don't have a dick are putting a dick on and you're saying you can't do that.

• 1:15:03Speaker 01

  Oh, so they're all-

• 1:15:03Joe Rogan?

  This is crazy.

• 1:15:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's like we're caught in a blender, dude.

• 1:15:07Joe Rogan?

  First of all, it's very short sighted because you should be pro-trans even if it's fake-trans.

• 1:15:11Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:15:11Joe Rogan?

  If, that would make more people into trans people. That'd be better for everybody.

• 1:15:15Speaker 01

  Right, no matter what. Now, are some people-

• 1:15:17Joe Rogan?

  It's famine thinking.

• 1:15:19Speaker 01

  Are there really some people?

• 1:15:23Speaker 01

  Are people born with weiner and breast? Is that a real thing?

• 1:15:27Joe Rogan?

  I have not heard of that, but I know that some guys do have problems with their breasts. Like, there's a thing when guys take steroids. They develop something called gynomastica. And gynomastica is an enlargement of the breast tissue. I know guys who have had to get their nipples cut open. And they have to get that removed and then sewn back together again. It's like a serious operation.

• 1:15:49Speaker 01

  But so are some people-

• 1:15:50Joe Rogan?

  But that is, that's breast tissue because they take so much testosterone that their body starts producing extra estrogen.

• 1:15:58Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:15:58Joe Rogan?

  And then they get titties as a side effect.

• 1:16:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:16:00Joe Rogan?

  I don't, I hope I'm not fucking that up. That's what I've been told. I'm pretty sure that's how it goes. But the point is, that's the only time I've ever heard of, like, with a dick and tits.

• 1:16:08Speaker 01

  But some people are born with both genitals, right?

• 1:16:10Joe Rogan?

  Yes. That's a little different, right? That's pretty rare. That's called a hermaphrodite. Or now, I think they call them intersex now. People are always trying to come up with new names.

• 1:16:19Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, my buddy had these growing up.

• 1:16:21Joe Rogan?

  Hot tits. Normal breast tissue hormone imbalance causes swelling.

• 1:16:26Speaker 01

  First of all-

• 1:16:27Joe Rogan?

  Causes some sweet titties.

• 1:16:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, first batch I ever saw where my buddy, shout out to him, dude.

• 1:16:32Joe Rogan?

  I'll tell you what, if I could just crop out that right tit, I could, I could rub one off of that right tit.

• 1:16:37Speaker 01

  I used to look at my buddy like that.

• 1:16:38Joe Rogan?

  Go back to that tit, please. You go back to his, uh, it's his left. So, his left. It's like, no, no, no, I don't want to see those, the technical, the actual one. So if you just cropped in, his left, his left, that one.

• 1:16:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:16:53Joe Rogan?

  Just crop in that, remove all side of hair.

• 1:16:57Speaker 01

  Look at that. Look at that little milk port she's got on him, brother.

• 1:17:01Joe Rogan?

  That's like a hot athletic girl's boob.

• 1:17:04Speaker 01

  Oh damn, brother. That's a fucking little nerve branch.

• 1:17:07Joe Rogan?

  We don't really need to, don't do that, Jamie.

• 1:17:09Speaker 01

  That's a lot, dude. But I'm telling you this, you telling me this, if you don't, you make a steak out of that man, you're not gonna pay an extra thirty bucks?

• 1:17:16Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and then the problem would be they would start-

• 1:17:18Speaker 03

  OnlyFans models with the bulge.

• 1:17:20Joe Rogan?

  Oh, see?

• 1:17:22Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:17:22Joe Rogan?

  That's it. So, so they're doing it.

• 1:17:25Speaker 01

  A lot of people, but what if, do you think though, this is what I wonder sometimes, do you think that science has us headed so we were all, that everyone is gonna be trans at what, like it's, like it's all merging?

• 1:17:36Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I think we're gonna be genderless, really. Go to that article again, I wanna see what they were saying. What would they say?

• 1:17:42Speaker 03

  It said it was only two of them, I don't know how, it could have spread since like-

• 1:17:45Joe Rogan?

  Not on my Instagram feed.

• 1:17:46Speaker 03

  It's September, so.

• 1:17:47Joe Rogan?

  This is gang them.

• 1:17:48Speaker 03

  They might have started a trend.

• 1:17:49Joe Rogan?

  They're all over the place. OnlyFans models, can I just read that? OnlyFans models are targeted by online LGBTQ mob after posing in underwear with fake bulges. That's so crazy. That's so crazy, that's so hypocritical.

• 1:18:04Speaker 01

  I wonder, dude, I heard Jelly Roll's got that thang on him, I heard he's got a reel.

• 1:18:09Joe Rogan?

  I bet he does. Look at that, just two boys being silly alongside a trans flag.

• 1:18:16Joe Rogan?

  How can you get mad? How can you get mad?

• 1:18:20Speaker 01

  Got that donkey on him.

• 1:18:21Joe Rogan?

  But you, you can't get mad because that violates, like, you're saying that your standards are more important than them doing this thing to get attention. That your standards of what's real is not real, like, no, no, no, no, no.

• 1:18:36Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:18:36Joe Rogan?

  It doesn't work that way. Like, because the only way, cause then, it's only your standards, cause if you want that kind of a strict control of the way people view things, you're gonna allow people to turn that on you. And there's gonna be way more people that have a hard time with you saying that you're a woman when you have a dick, than there's gonna be for a bunch of girls who just wanna take pictures where they have fake bulges.

• 1:19:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:19:00Joe Rogan?

  That doesn't make, you're just being a control freak. Like, you don't, you can't have no fake trans people, but only real trans people, but don't let anybody-

• 1:19:11Speaker 01

  Right, it's like saying you can't-

• 1:19:12Joe Rogan?

  -be in control of who decides what's real and what's not real.

• 1:19:14Speaker 01

  Right, it's almost the same with like a lot of cultural appropriation and stuff, but at a certain point it just gets ridiculous. It's like, you know-

• 1:19:19Joe Rogan?

  Did you see that one dude who faked it for like six months?

• 1:19:22Speaker 01

  Faked being black?

• 1:19:23Joe Rogan?

  He faked, no, you can't do that anymore.

• 1:19:25Speaker 01

  I'm not doing it.

• 1:19:27Joe Rogan?

  Um, no, he faked uh being a woman. You know that dude, he was on like one of those reality shows? And he had all the tattoos. He was like, good looking guy, which which is why it was crazy. And he said he was transitioning. And he's, it was just a troll. He did it for like six months.

• 1:19:41Speaker 01

  Meeting chicks?

• 1:19:42Joe Rogan?

  No, just like making videos online.

• 1:19:44Speaker 01

  Oh, no, I didn't see that.

• 1:19:46Joe Rogan?

  But he he kept it up forever. That dude. Explaining Josh Cedar's trans hoax, alleged fake death, and why Monica Beverly Hills is involved. I don't know who Monica Beverly Hills is.

• 1:19:57Speaker 01

  Me neither.

• 1:19:59Joe Rogan?

  Um, so this guy. It was very smart.

• 1:20:03Joe Rogan?

  He said he's been undergoing a crash out of most epic. Out of the most epic proportions. And somehow RuPaul's Dragways doll Monica Beverly Hills is involved. Is this like a far left wing blog? Cause the way they're writing this is like. Okay, well, that makes sense.

• 1:20:22Speaker 01

  Them dot us, it's called them, first of all, it's called them dot us.

• 1:20:26Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I was like, what is the, I don't understand what the tone of this article is. So go back to it now.

• 1:20:33Speaker 01

  So he was pretending to be trans, Joe?

• 1:20:35Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 1:20:36Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:20:36Joe Rogan?

  For a long time. Okay, here it goes. Uh, scroll up a little bit, so, oh, here it goes. The former reality stu- TV star has gone viral on social media for the worst reasons. That's definitely not the worst reason.

• 1:20:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:20:47Joe Rogan?

  Allegedly faking his own death and claiming it was a hack. As well as pretending to be trans and posting photos of himself in feminine clothes is an experimental mockery of trans people that he claims is exposing the woke mind virus. Um. But that's not the worst reasons. The worst reasons is like you killed a bunch of folks. The worst reasons you lit a school on fire. That's the worst reasons. Like, that's not the worst reasons for going viral. Because why did he pretend to be trans? He came out as a trans woman, he gave interviews with public, like Page Six.

• 1:21:19Speaker 01

  But are there people that aren't? Um, came out of the trans community. So this guy just pretended to be trans for a long time.

• 1:21:26Joe Rogan?

  A long time.

• 1:21:27Speaker 01

  So he was making a mockery of them.

• 1:21:29Joe Rogan?

  He said five months, so he did it for five months. So, um,

• 1:21:33Speaker 01

  What did he do, was fake being a faker?

• 1:21:34Joe Rogan?

  Five months later, he said that he was actually, it was all a social experiment on an episode of the conservative podcast, Primetime with Alex Stein. Cider said the purpose was to expose how gullible and delusional the left is. What I did is I faked being a faker, he said. I pretended to be a pretender.

• 1:21:52Speaker 01

  But yeah.

• 1:21:53Joe Rogan?

  Well, that's, the thing is like, people don't want to admit that he's correct because it makes you insensitive. But what he's saying is like, logical.

• 1:22:01Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:22:02Joe Rogan?

  It's logical.

• 1:22:03Speaker 01

  And so what if people are actually trans? Are some people actually trans?

• 1:22:07Joe Rogan?

  You'd have to ask them. There in lies the problem.

• 1:22:10Speaker 01

  I see.

• 1:22:11Joe Rogan?

  I think there are people that are not, though. There's people that are perverts, for sure, and pretend to be trans so they can go to women's rooms. For sure.

• 1:22:17Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, yeah. That's at LAX.

• 1:22:19Joe Rogan?

  For sure. I'm not accusing all of them. I'm just saying.

• 1:22:21Speaker 01

  It's, I've seen it.

• 1:22:22Joe Rogan?

  There's, you're going to have that if you have this thing, this new thing. This new thing. When I was a kid, if a guy with a beard and a dress tried to go into the women's room, men would go in there and beat the fuck out of them. They wouldn't let that happen. They would say, oh, that guy's a pervert.

• 1:22:36Speaker 01

  And if a woman went into the men's room, we'd tell her to bring a couple of her friends, you know what I'm saying? But still, in a respective way. Or you would guard the door while they were urinating. That was another thing. If a woman said, I really need to urinate in here, you know?

• 1:22:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well, no one would care.

• 1:22:49Speaker 03

  The added thing is he had a parent, maybe, had a relationship with this Monica Beverly Hills person.

• 1:22:55Joe Rogan?

  Oh, is Monica Beverly Hills a gay guy?

• 1:22:57Speaker 03

  It's a contestant from Drag Race.

• 1:23:00Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 1:23:02Speaker 03

  This person like tried to out them, I guess, and he denied it, and then I guess there might be evidence of it.

• 1:23:07Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:23:09Speaker 03

  So that's, they're saying that he might have done this all in retaliation for this.

• 1:23:13Speaker 01

  See, that's what happens a lot of times is, people will...

• 1:23:16Speaker 03

  That's what I just, I just read that.

• 1:23:18Joe Rogan?

  Well, listen, for whatever, maybe the guy's gay and he pretended to be a woman. He's not a woman. Alright, so maybe he had a gay relationship with a drag queen. Or maybe it's not even a gay relationship if it's a drag queen. I don't remember anymore. I don't know what the new regulations are.

• 1:23:33Speaker 01

  All I'm telling you is-

• 1:23:34Joe Rogan?

  I don't know what the new regulations are. All I'm saying is, if you wanna be a person who is open-minded and who's compassionate and who wants to let people live and let live, you can't get mad at these girls putting rubber dicks in their pants. You can't, it's too stupid.

• 1:23:50Speaker 01

  Well, it's like somebody dressing up like for someone for Halloween, I feel like, right?

• 1:23:53Joe Rogan?

  A little bit. But you could say that's what they're doing, though.

• 1:23:57Speaker 01

  I see what you're saying.

• 1:23:58Joe Rogan?

  You know?

• 1:23:58Speaker 01

  So you're saying, you're making your own Halloween. So you can't be upset if we make a Halloween.

• 1:24:03Joe Rogan?

  You can, you can say you're a girl. You can say you're a girl. And you can be a guy with a beard and long nails and say you're a girl. But you can't make me go along with it.

• 1:24:12Speaker 01

  I see what you're saying.

• 1:24:12Joe Rogan?

  I'm not saying that you can't say you're a girl. I'm not saying that you can't call yourself a new name. But if we're in this weird aggressive situation and you want me to say you're a girl so that you can go do girl things in the girls' room and like, you can't make me agree to that. That's where it gets crazy. Like, if you're not infringing on anybody else's space, there's a reason, girls don't wanna be in a fucking bathroom with dudes.

• 1:24:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:24:37Joe Rogan?

  And if it's like trans men in the men's room, men don't give a fuck. Because women aren't going in there to rape men.

• 1:24:44Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:24:44Joe Rogan?

  Right? So that's the difference. They're women that think they're men, no one cares. If a woman who thinks she's a man wants to enter into men's sports, no one's gonna stop her.

• 1:24:54Speaker 01

  Right, cuz it's all one direction, isn't it? Isn't it always men going to women's stuff?

• 1:24:59Joe Rogan?

  Well, for sports, for sure. Look, there have been women that have turned trans and competed against boys. That, it definitely has happened. But the striking dominance that you see where trans men or trans women, biological men who identifies women, compete against regular biological women in sports.

• 1:25:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:25:21Joe Rogan?

  It's crazy. You get people with like-

• 1:25:25Speaker 01

  I would just wanna.

• 1:25:27Joe Rogan?

  It's just, it's a delusion. It's just a delusion that you shouldn't let in. If you wanna have an all-trans league, do that.

• 1:25:32Speaker 01

  That's what we should do, I feel like. It seems like there should be that, so that then-

• 1:25:36Joe Rogan?

  It's just a cheat code. You can't just say you're a girl. You're not a girl. Let's do a DNA test. Let's do a chromosome test. Oh, look, X, Y. You're a guy.

• 1:25:45Speaker 01

  Will DNA tell you the truth every single time? Will that answer always be the-

• 1:25:49Joe Rogan?

  Your fucking chromosomes will.

• 1:25:50Speaker 01

  Okay, so there's no-

• 1:25:51Joe Rogan?

  Look, there's gonna be a variable thing. There's gonna be a thing even with that, right? So, if you have like, male and female, all male and all female are not created equal. There's a giant curve between like, the most manly man and the most womanly man. And then the most manly woman, and the most womanly woman. Like, there's this giant fucking curve that all it means to be a human being. I can't tell you where you are in that curve.

• 1:26:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:26:18Joe Rogan?

  I don't know, but you are you, man. You be you. I'll be me.

• 1:26:21Speaker 01

  I'm doing fine.

• 1:26:22Joe Rogan?

  I want you to be happy. But you can't pretend you're in that other group. You can't, especially if you are the male pretending you're a female, and you wanna enter into like, women's rooms. You can't do that because there's too much of a potential for that to be abused by creeps. So what's the solution? I don't know what the solution is. I don't know. You know, individual bathrooms?

• 1:26:42Speaker 01

  What about that family restroom that always has, dude, I'll tell you this, the worst thing is-

• 1:26:47Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that one with the diaper table?

• 1:26:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:26:48Joe Rogan?

  That one special bathroom, a big bathroom.

• 1:26:51Speaker 01

  Diaper table, man. It's got that Australian diaper table in it or whatever, you're like, what is this for?

• 1:26:57Joe Rogan?

  You don't even have a diaper, but you do have a hog and a dress.

• 1:27:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:27:00Joe Rogan?

  And you're like, I'm just gonna use this one, just not freak anybody out.

• 1:27:04Speaker 01

  Like Jelly Roll, dude, he's got that hog on him, huh?

• 1:27:06Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but he's clearly identifying as a male.

• 1:27:09Speaker 01

  Oh yeah, no one's denying.

• 1:27:10Joe Rogan?

  But if he wasn't, and then he had that big ol' hog, keep him out of the women's room.

• 1:27:14Speaker 01

  I'm just saying, he's got that mistletoe on him, I heard, you know? That's what I heard, dude. I heard he's got that, you know that thing that cops throw out to get the car to stop if it's going real fast?

• 1:27:24Joe Rogan?

  Those nails on the strip.

• 1:27:26Speaker 01

  I'm just saying, I heard he's got that rope on him, boy.

• 1:27:28Joe Rogan?

  Damn.

• 1:27:30Speaker 01

  So, whatever, dude. Stay black, homie. That's what Joey Diaz always says. Black.

• 1:27:35Joe Rogan?

  That's the most important thing. Oh, my God. Have you ever seen the video where, uh, speaking of Alex Jones, where Joey Diaz and Alex Jones, uh, Alex Jones is trying to calm Joey Diaz down, and I'm next to him. I'm just crying, laughing, and Joey's telling some story about how he smuggled, but smuggled weed through the airport under his nutsack. And that they didn't catch him. And then, like, what kind of fucking security do we have here? Like, see if you can find it. Because it's, I am, like, literally crying, laughing. Like, I can't breathe. I'm fucking crying.

• 1:28:07Speaker 01

  I haven't seen that. I'm trying to think of what I've seen.

• 1:28:09Joe Rogan?

  Joey's going off, and this is, you know, Alex Jones of, like, the early 2000s.

• 1:28:14Speaker 01

  No, I saw they got that new tariff in New York City. You see that? Nine bucks to drive into the city now.

• 1:28:19Joe Rogan?

  That's so crazy.

• 1:28:20Speaker 01

  During congestion time, so during.

• 1:28:22Joe Rogan?

  That's so crazy.

• 1:28:23Speaker 01

  I think it's 5:00 AM to 2.

• 1:28:25Joe Rogan?

  They're just trying to ruin that city, man.

• 1:28:28Speaker 01

  Well, I just wonder what will that, like, who does, obviously, it hits, everything hits people that don't have money the hardest, right?

• 1:28:35Joe Rogan?

  You know, we were talking about how, once people have power over you, once they have control of you, they never want to let that go.

• 1:28:41Speaker 01

  Oh, for sure.

• 1:28:42Joe Rogan?

  The East Coast is a great example of that, and one of the best, uh, best examples is the tolls. The tolls were supposed to be created to pay for the city, to build the, the roads.

• 1:28:53Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:28:53Joe Rogan?

  Build the bridges. But they paid for it 100 times over. Once it's already been paid, now you're just stealing money from people because you can.

• 1:29:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:29:00Joe Rogan?

  So then they just fill their coffers up, then fill their bureaucracy, and fill their red tape to justify all this money coming in.

• 1:29:06Speaker 01

  It's all a, it's all a scheme.

• 1:29:08Joe Rogan?

  This is Joey on the Alex Jones Show. 2010.

• 1:29:12Speaker 05

  Michael Jackson. I watched, I watched this.

• 1:29:15Joe Rogan?

  They're just better at covering up what they do.

• 1:29:16Speaker 06

  Did they kill Michael Jackson?

• 1:29:18Joe Rogan?

  No, I don't know.

• 1:29:19Speaker 05

  Look at the movie. He was dancing and singing, and next you know he's dying of oxygen. No, not, not right. A junkie's a junkie's a junkie's a junkie every day. He doesn't wake up singing, dance, and then he has oxygen tanks at night. Something's not right there. And, in my case, like, old school. You're worth more dead than what you are alive. You understand me?

• 1:29:36Joe Rogan?

  And now they got a new record coming out.

• 1:29:37Speaker 05

  He ain't in debt no more. He's doing a tour next year with the people from, uh, Vegas that jump up and down the Blue Band Group, whatever the hell that is. I mean, he's worth more now than he's ever been. I think Paul McCartney killed Michael Jackson. If it was up to me, me knowing what I know, I'd smoke another joint, I'll break it down. I'll break it down, cuz he bought the music from Paul McCartney, didn't wanna give it back to him. And all of a sudden, they, they put Paul McCartney in the Super Bowl, they tried to build up the Beatles to get their thing going, and all of a sudden, Michael Jackson.

• 1:30:07Speaker 01

  I believe it.

• 1:30:08Joe Rogan?

  It goes, it goes a lot longer. The best is the end, though, he says, stay black. Just get to the very back.

• 1:30:15Speaker 05

  Time you listen to your bullshit congressman, or your bullshit governor, or even a bullshit president, or somebody who's running for president, and he's hitting you with that same four shit that they give you every four fucking years, and you still vote for the fucking Momo, and then you get mad. Think about me saying the word fuck. With that, I'm outta here, I gotta go smoke a cigarette.

• 1:30:31Joe Rogan?

  Ah, hell on him, we gotta say bye here, everybody.

• 1:30:33Speaker 01

  He's making some very solid points.

• 1:30:34Joe Rogan?

  Don't do the, uh, don't, no, I know, Joey, you, you get it.

• 1:30:37Speaker 05

  I'm with you, but this is to let the American public know that every four years, they buy the same shit they've been buying every four years, and the same people with their Harvard articulation, and how they don't curse, and they're Christians, and they have a family, and these are the same people that shove it up your fucking ass every year. The one thing that you get about me is, I'll say fuck, but I will not fucking rob you. If I need something, I'll ask you like a man.

• 1:30:59Joe Rogan?

  I know, you're gonna get one.

• 1:31:00Speaker 05

  Hey, hey, go fuck yourself, you cock-

• 1:31:02Joe Rogan?

  Hold on, hold on one second.

• 1:31:03Speaker 05

  Take a joke, take a shuttle. Joey Diaz, Facebook, Twitter, check yourself before you wreck yourself. Big dicks in your ass, up there for your health.

• 1:31:11Joe Rogan?

  Get outta here, you're in trouble.

• 1:31:13Speaker 05

  He goes back.

• 1:31:14Joe Rogan?

  I, I'm the un- power, fire, this is, I'm throwing, alright, alright. Listen, I-

• 1:31:19Speaker 05

  Stay black, cuz that's the most important.

• 1:31:20Joe Rogan?

  Oh, okay, okay. Hey, Joe.

• 1:31:25Speaker 01

  Stay black, dude. Bro, they, we gotta start getting more, you're gonna, when are you gonna start to see people just identify as black, then?

• 1:31:32Joe Rogan?

  You can't do that, they won't let you do that.

• 1:31:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, but that's what they said about everything.

• 1:31:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but that one's been a hard line for a while. They used to be able to do blackface. Think about it. So many people did blackface in movies. Robert Downey Jr. did blackface in the early 2000s, right?

• 1:31:45Speaker 01

  Good point.

• 1:31:45Joe Rogan?

  You used to be able to do it, and look at that movie Soul Man, remember? The guy pretended to be black to get like a college education. Yeah, he did it. A lot of people did it.

• 1:31:54Speaker 01

  Lex, Lex Luthor, I don't even think-

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• 1:33:33Speaker 01

  He looks...

• 1:33:35Joe Rogan?

  I think that's his real skin color.

• 1:33:36Speaker 01

  You do?

• 1:33:36Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I think that is.

• 1:33:37Speaker 01

  Okay. That's a rumor.

• 1:33:39Joe Rogan?

  The point is, that is, it's going the other direction. It's not going the direction of like the Rachel Dolezal.

• 1:33:45Speaker 01

  I think you're gonna have a real resurgence coming up.

• 1:33:49Joe Rogan?

  Well, there are people that have tried it. The problem is, now with 23andMe, it's real hard to pull off.

• 1:33:55Speaker 01

  Mike Perry?

• 1:33:58Speaker 01

  He's got like 2%. You're gonna tell, hey, I ain't gonna tell him he ain't.

• 1:34:03Speaker 01

  That's for sure, dude.

• 1:34:06Speaker 01

  I ain't telling him, I ain't telling him, Mike Perry is a zebra if he wants to be, dude. But can you bring up people that are trying to be black and see, um, like by texturizing their skin, there's new things, Joe.

• 1:34:21Joe Rogan?

  Well, I definitely think that people are taking pills. I've heard of that.

• 1:34:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, darkening pills or whatever?

• 1:34:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there's uh, some kind of medication that you can take, maybe it's a peptide that darkens your skin. It may, it may be a peptide, but uh, I've heard of it. It might even have some weird like melanin name, like melanin or something like that. I don't remember though. But I do remember seeing it on an internet article where, you know, there's like, how far are people going to like, look different? And all the different shit that people are doing.

• 1:34:51Speaker 01

  Dark Buddy or whatever they're calling it?

• 1:34:53Joe Rogan?

  Dark Buddy?

• 1:34:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, they call him Dark Buddy, and you just like take a couple of pills of it?

• 1:34:58Joe Rogan?

  Oh, I was thinking of Justin Trudeau doing blackface.

• 1:35:00Speaker 01

  Dude, you know, he just retired.

• 1:35:01Joe Rogan?

  He's just retired, yeah.

• 1:35:02Speaker 01

  That's crazy.

• 1:35:03Joe Rogan?

  Well, he had, he's stepping down till they find, they're gonna have to find a replacement, and then he leaves.

• 1:35:08Speaker 01

  I liked him better when he was black.

• 1:35:10Joe Rogan?

  But that, that was very brief, I think.

• 1:35:13Speaker 01

  But still, dude, it was a fucking vibe then.

• 1:35:17Speaker 01

  Bro, people have hammered on that guy so much, but did you see?

• 1:35:19Joe Rogan?

  Rightly so, man, that guy's a creep.

• 1:35:21Speaker 01

  He doesn't seem like he has

• 1:35:23Joe Rogan?

  Seems like a communist.

• 1:35:23Speaker 01

  Any strength inside of him, of his own.

• 1:35:25Joe Rogan?

  No, no, no, no.

• 1:35:26Speaker 01

  And he almost seems like a character from a Charles Dickens novel. Bring, if you bring up that, his retirement speech from the other day?

• 1:35:31Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Well, it's fake, that's why.

• 1:35:34Speaker 01

  It was like, oh, father.

• 1:35:35Joe Rogan?

  It's fake, it's all fake, he's like a fake progressive, the whole thing's fake. That's why, he was an authoritarian, and he kept cracking down on, on people's rights, and they all really saw it during that trucker, uh, protest, cause that's when it was really in front of everybody's face, where you couldn't ignore it. Here's this guy who is trying to, he's freezing bank accounts from the people that donated money to the truckers.

• 1:36:00Speaker 01

  He is now.

• 1:36:01Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I don't wanna listen to this, fuck this guy.

• 1:36:04Speaker 01

  But he very much has a character from a Charles Dickens novel, doesn't he?

• 1:36:07Joe Rogan?

  It's it's because it's performative.

• 1:36:09Speaker 01

  Look, he looks AI though, look at him.

• 1:36:11Joe Rogan?

  But if you go to see a movie about Charles Dickens, here's one thing, when you ever go to see like an old timey movie, everyone talks in a more elegant and sophisticated manner.

• 1:36:21Speaker 01

  Hello?

• 1:36:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there's there's a difference to the way people talked in those like Dickens.

• 1:36:25Speaker 01

  I've got rubella dad.

• 1:36:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:36:27Speaker 01

  Tommy has rubella.

• 1:36:28Joe Rogan?

  You know why? Because it's fake, right? Like, that's how people used to make movies back then.

• 1:36:33Speaker 01

  Did people really talk like that back then?

• 1:36:34Joe Rogan?

  No, no, people talked the way they talk. It's just people were just not, well, they talked and they had different vernacular than than they do now. But people, when you're performing something, performing something was new. You have to think about this. If you go back and watch movies, like, one of one of the things that's great about um the fact that we produce so much content is that what what it's done, the entire bank of all the content that people created since the beginning of television being started to the rock and roll uh boom of the nineteen sixties, to the internet, to all these things, you can see the way people communicate evolves and changes.

• 1:37:15Joe Rogan?

  And if you go back to the earliest representations of broadcast media in the country, everyone talks in a way that's not natural.

• 1:37:24Speaker 01

  James J. Braddock like that.

• 1:37:26Joe Rogan?

  Here we are.

• 1:37:27Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 1:37:27Joe Rogan?

  ABC News World Report, Hitler has moved into, you know, it's like, there's a way that they talk back then, and then there's, if you go watch those movies, they talked fake in the movies.

• 1:37:39Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 1:37:39Joe Rogan?

  Marlon Brando was the first guy to not talk fake, and everybody's like, what is this guy doing? It's revolutionary. He seems like he's a real guy. Like, no one even knew how to do that until Brando came along and did it.

• 1:37:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:37:53Joe Rogan?

  And so then movies.

• 1:37:54Speaker 01

  Oh, that's good.

• 1:37:55Joe Rogan?

  Became, and then you get a guy like a Daniel Day Lewis.

• 1:37:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:37:58Joe Rogan?

  You know, where does he come from? Well, he comes from this entire evolutionary tree of people figuring out what's the best way to pretend publicly.

• 1:38:09Joe Rogan?

  And the way that they would do it in the Charles Dickens movies was a primitive way. It's like when you're watching, um.

• 1:38:16Speaker 01

  Albert is sick dad.

• 1:38:17Joe Rogan?

  Rudolph the red-nosed reindeer was on the other day. It was like Christmas around the house.

• 1:38:21Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:38:22Joe Rogan?

  The, the old one, the claymation one. When the, the snow was moving around.

• 1:38:27Speaker 01

  Rudolph.

• 1:38:27Joe Rogan?

  The snowman.

• 1:38:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:38:28Joe Rogan?

  It's goofy as fuck. Santa looks goofy as fuck. It's terrible. The way people talk.

• 1:38:33Speaker 01

  Santa.

• 1:38:34Joe Rogan?

  It seems so fake, but that was the standard. It's like Six Million Dollar Man was a good show. Okay? It was a good show.

• 1:38:41Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:38:41Joe Rogan?

  That was the standard. The standard was terrible. Like, we had a terrible standard for communication.

• 1:38:47Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:38:48Joe Rogan?

  That standard's changed over time. It's changed. So the people that are still doing it that way, it's glaringly obvious.

• 1:38:57Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:38:57Joe Rogan?

  So what Justin Trudeau is doing, he's doing like a, a fucking strip club DJ voice.

• 1:39:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:39:04Joe Rogan?

  He, you know, he, he's like Lexus to the main stage.

• 1:39:07Speaker 01

  Good evening, Manatoba.

• 1:39:09Joe Rogan?

  You don't know who that guy is. You're not getting any of him. That is a mask.

• 1:39:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:39:13Joe Rogan?

  You're not getting any of him.

• 1:39:15Speaker 01

  Well, he went to that tragically hit concert. Is that the band Tragically Hit or whatever? Huh? Tragically Hip, yeah. He went to that concert and he wore a jean jacket and everybody thought he was like a vibe and I think that's how he won that election or whatever.

• 1:39:27Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 1:39:28Speaker 01

  You know.

• 1:39:28Joe Rogan?

  That's hilarious.

• 1:39:29Speaker 01

  And then.

• 1:39:29Joe Rogan?

  Well, he's good looking, he's tall, and he's charismatic. He's figured out a way to bullshit. In the beginning, before he had any power, it worked.

• 1:39:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:39:36Joe Rogan?

  Cause he sounded like a sensible guy. But people get revealed when they face pressure. And when he faced pressure during that trucker thing, then he showed his true cards.

• 1:39:45Speaker 01

  Do you think that they'll take Canada into be the 50s, uh, first or second state, whichever one it is?

• 1:39:50Joe Rogan?

  I think, this is what I think. I think we take Canada and then we go right into Mexico.

• 1:39:54Speaker 01

  Let's fucking go. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

• 1:39:56Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's what I said. I tweeted that today.

• 1:39:58Speaker 01

  You did?

• 1:39:59Joe Rogan?

  I tweeted that today.

• 1:39:59Speaker 01

  I didn't see that.

• 1:40:00Joe Rogan?

  We should, we should let Mexico in too.

• 1:40:02Speaker 01

  I wanna be fucking Mexican.

• 1:40:03Joe Rogan?

  Sneaking over. How about we just let him stay here?

• 1:40:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, huh?

• 1:40:05Joe Rogan?

  Just like, how about we go into that? How about what I said? How about what he said? Like, instead of trying to like let all the bad stuff in, how about we make this like totally locked down safe? And then expand safety. Expand it. But you gotta do it without stripping people their rights.

• 1:40:24Speaker 01

  It's a lot.

• 1:40:25Joe Rogan?

  It's a lot.

• 1:40:26Speaker 01

  But also there's some-

• 1:40:27Joe Rogan?

  It's a big problem.

• 1:40:28Speaker 01

  Like, Poland doesn't let anybody in or out of their country, is that right?

• 1:40:31Joe Rogan?

  They don't fuck around, dude.

• 1:40:32Speaker 01

  Poland doesn't.

• 1:40:32Joe Rogan?

  They don't fuck around.

• 1:40:33Speaker 01

  And that's why, like, why isn't, why don't some countries, like, well, I guess America is kind of this, it's kind of a halfway house of, like, ideals over the years. It feels like, you know, it feels like, like, I always thought there was this, like, yeah, idea of this is an American, this is what we do, you know? It's kind of like how you were brought up, like, with the Pledge of Allegiance, civics class, all that type of stuff. Like, this is what it means, like, forward tough type vibes, you know? But then, everything kind of changes over time, and now I feel like, it's, we don't know what America is. And I think that's the part that seems super scary to people sometimes.

• 1:41:05Joe Rogan?

  Well, that's the part that's easy to manipulate, right? So, in this moment of chaos that we're talking about, "I don't know what America is anymore", that's when you get all these fucking activist groups that are not real. That's when you get this discourse online. That's when you get people attacking. And you get real people that get caught up in it too. And they're getting you caught up in it as well, because all these people, like, people are super addicted to arguing with stuff online. And I, you know, I see, like, otherwise very reasonable people that are on Twitter 12 hours a day, and I just don't understand what the fuck is wrong with you.

• 1:41:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:41:34Joe Rogan?

  Otherwise very reasonable, successful people. Like, what, why are you doing this?

• 1:41:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, some people tweet all day. Elon tweets all day.

• 1:41:40Joe Rogan?

  All day.

• 1:41:41Speaker 01

  But it must be an addiction, right, at this point? I mean, there's no way-

• 1:41:43Joe Rogan?

  It has to be.

• 1:41:44Speaker 01

  And if it's real, do you think it's really him doing it?

• 1:41:47Joe Rogan?

  Um, well, that was the Andre Dittman thing. That was the thing.

• 1:41:50Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:41:51Joe Rogan?

  That people were saying that this was a fake... So, was that proven that it wasn't him?

• 1:41:56Speaker 03

  I've, I've been trying to track that down, too. I have no idea what's-

• 1:41:59Joe Rogan?

  I'd, I'd heard that it was proven that it wasn't him, because this guy who sounds like Elon was doing something while Elon was playing Diablo Live.

• 1:42:09Speaker 03

  Yeah, they had them talk to each other, I think, in a space.

• 1:42:12Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:42:12Speaker 03

  But they were, they were talking, they were definitely both making noise at the same time. But, again, like, without seeing both the-

• 1:42:18Joe Rogan?

  Also-

• 1:42:18Speaker 03

  I've never seen a picture of the other guy, I don't think.

• 1:42:21Joe Rogan?

  That could be AI. Right? You're telling me a guy like Elon couldn't, like, just for funsies, rig something like that?

• 1:42:28Speaker 03

  Be a fun way to test it.

• 1:42:28Joe Rogan?

  He's catching rockets with robot arms, you know? You don't think he could figure that out?

• 1:42:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:42:33Joe Rogan?

  He can figure that out. He, he could have the algorithms talk to each other. I think there's, you know, they can already translate your, your language, that, you know, they can take whatever you're saying right now in your podcast and they can translate it to German, they could translate to Spanish, they could translate to anything.

• 1:42:50Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 1:42:51Joe Rogan?

  If they can do that, they could for sure have a version of you that's quick enough with AI that it could respond like a person would.

• 1:43:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:43:03Speaker 01

  Well, it's just, it's all gonna get interesting because now there's, there used to be places, if you didn't like what was going on, you could sail off to another place, but there's not that many of those places anymore.

• 1:43:11Joe Rogan?

  No, that's one of the reasons why, uh, we gotta protect America. We gotta protect freedom because if they can lock down on us, we are the last beacon of hope for the world. And I, I know that sounds ridiculous. Oh, you guys are so ridiculous. Help, uh, so egocentric. Look what's happening to Europe. Look at the chaos. Look at the chaos. Look at, look at what's happening in terms of like how people are upset at their political parties. Look at what's happening with Palestine and Israel. Look what's happening with Ukraine and Russia. Did you see that fucking bomb that went off today? You wanna see something nuts?

• 1:43:50Speaker 03

  I don't know if that's real.

• 1:43:50Joe Rogan?

  You don't know if it's real?

• 1:43:51Speaker 03

  I don't think so. I, I'm a, I, yeah.

• 1:43:54Joe Rogan?

  For real?

• 1:43:54Speaker 03

  Did you send me in the middle of the night?

• 1:43:56Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:43:56Speaker 03

  Yeah, I don't think.

• 1:43:58Joe Rogan?

  I was taking a shit.

• 1:44:00Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:44:00Joe Rogan?

  Jamie needs to know about this one.

• 1:44:02Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, dude. I don't like shitting at night because sometimes I'll, I'll go back to sleep while I'm sitting there and my legs will fall asleep. You ever had that happen to you, bub?

• 1:44:10Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 1:44:12Speaker 01

  And then you try to get up and you're like, I'm stuck here on shit island.

• 1:44:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Your legs go numb. And then you fall down and hurt yourself. Imagine if that's how you hurt yourself, like slipping, your pants down by your ankles and your numb ass stupid legs.

• 1:44:28Joe Rogan?

  You bang your fucking head into the nightstand like, ah!

• 1:44:32Speaker 01

  And your wife's like, is this who I'm married?

• 1:44:34Joe Rogan?

  Ah! Yeah. You're the protector. You KO'd yourself in the toilet room slamming your head off the fucking doorknob. Boom. You get a big circle in the middle of your forehead for a month.

• 1:44:48Joe Rogan?

  Every time she looks at you, she looks at you with your stupid fucking bruise, your pants down by your ankles, half wiped ass.

• 1:44:56Speaker 01

  Dude, my mom used to always come. We'd doze off on the shit or as children, you know, my mom would always come in there and rescue us or whatever, you know?

• 1:45:03Joe Rogan?

  That's hilarious. Well, now it must be more common because of phones.

• 1:45:08Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, people all the time.

• 1:45:08Joe Rogan?

  Spending way more time.

• 1:45:10Speaker 01

  A lot of crazy stuff happening. You know, the Asians can't eat hot dogs anymore. I just saw that the other day.

• 1:45:14Joe Rogan?

  They can't as a general rule?

• 1:45:16Speaker 01

  They're not allowing it. North Korea.

• 1:45:18Joe Rogan?

  What were you just looking up, Jamie?

• 1:45:21Speaker 03

  Ukraine hypersonic thing?

• 1:45:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. You need to see this.

• 1:45:24Speaker 03

  Oh, I said, I've, how to shoot down. Um, it's, I don't think that video is real. I'll just start there.

• 1:45:33Joe Rogan?

  You son of a bitch.

• 1:45:34Speaker 03

  But there's already saying like, don't believe the hype from a 2023 Ukraine and the Kinsel missile. Don't believe the hypersonic hype.

• 1:45:41Joe Rogan?

  Well, I remember in the beginning of the war, there was a bunch of footage that turned out to just be video games. It was going everywhere because people can make money from clicks, right?

• 1:45:50Speaker 03

  So, but that, I'd say that explosion is not real.

• 1:45:53Joe Rogan?

  Can I see that again?

• 1:45:54Speaker 03

  It's not real. I just.

• 1:45:59Speaker 01

  Well, everything's just dangerous now.

• 1:46:01Joe Rogan?

  Um, how do you know that's not real?

• 1:46:04Speaker 03

  That, when it comes up here, that video of that bomb and that tree line, that's two, someone edited that part. Those two things aren't the same.

• 1:46:12Joe Rogan?

  In what way?

• 1:46:14Speaker 03

  Just, I'm just, uh, my history of looking at this stuff a lot.

• 1:46:18Joe Rogan?

  So.

• 1:46:20Speaker 03

  It's a lot of separation right there.

• 1:46:22Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 1:46:23Speaker 03

  See that line?

• 1:46:24Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm. But if it's far enough away for the curvature of the earth, wouldn't that, um?

• 1:46:29Speaker 03

  All right. In theory, it could be real, but this is the only video of this that exists.

• 1:46:34Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:46:35Speaker 03

  And no one else is claiming that this is real anywhere else online.

• 1:46:38Joe Rogan?

  Right. Um, what I'm seeing though, is that that thing that you're looking at in the background is elevated, right? So that, that would indicate to me hills and valleys. So that means the bomb could be going off in the valley below that, and I don't know how far down that is. So if you're talking about an area, like, this could be Utah, right? So if you're taking a photograph in certain-

• 1:47:01Speaker 03

  It looks like Utah. It's got a soccer field.

• 1:47:03Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, where is that?

• 1:47:04Joe Rogan?

  Do they play a lot of soccer?

• 1:47:05Speaker 03

  In Ukraine?

• 1:47:06Speaker 01

  Utah? Oh, Ukraine?

• 1:47:08Joe Rogan?

  They probably do, right? So, see what I'm saying? Like, that could be far enough over that hill where you get that effect of separation and still be natural?

• 1:47:17Speaker 03

  The way that it even looks, though, it looks like someone's got a TV behind another thing and they're showing an explosion of a TV. The way that that looks is not even-

• 1:47:28Joe Rogan?

  Right, it does look like a little, um-

• 1:47:29Speaker 03

  Exposed correctly, if you will.

• 1:47:31Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:47:31Speaker 03

  And even when it pulls away, it gets weird.

• 1:47:34Joe Rogan?

  It looks grainier.

• 1:47:35Speaker 03

  And I don't know how you would be filming that to catch a hypersonic missile. It says it was a US reporter accidentally films it, like, okay, really?

• 1:47:42Speaker 01

  And it's going pretty slow at that point, too.

• 1:47:44Joe Rogan?

  Let me see it again? Well, it's a perspective thing, like, it might look slower than it is because, you know, it's covering a lot of distance.

• 1:47:53Speaker 03

  It looks like Terminator 2, really. That's what kind of like starts.

• 1:47:58Joe Rogan?

  It's hard, too, because, like, we're probably looking at cellphone footage, and cellphone footage is still not that good.

• 1:48:05Speaker 01

  So bizarre.

• 1:48:06Joe Rogan?

  They keep making it better and better, but-

• 1:48:08Speaker 01

  And it gets worse and worse, the photos do.

• 1:48:09Joe Rogan?

  Well, first of all, like, drones? I have not seen one good cellphone drone video. So all that argument about, like, if UFOs are real, where are the fucking videos? Everyone's got a phone. Those arguments are now out the window, because we know the drones are real, right? So we don't, what?

• 1:48:24Speaker 03

  Sorry, here's the result for the Kinsol missile thing. Like, it just starts talking about it.

• 1:48:30Joe Rogan?

  Oh, the type of missile that they're saying that that was?

• 1:48:32Speaker 03

  If that was a real video, it, in theory, would be everywhere.

• 1:48:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:48:37Joe Rogan?

  It would be everywhere? What do you mean?

• 1:48:38Speaker 03

  There would be a bunch more results saying, like, look at this crazy video of this missile going off.

• 1:48:42Joe Rogan?

  Oh, I see, I see. So that's only, there's only one video, and there's no other reports of that bomb going off like that?

• 1:48:50Speaker 03

  I'd also like to look at the account that posted it, and start looking at some of the other shit they posted. It's a little-

• 1:48:54Joe Rogan?

  What is, oh, it's a shit poster? What was that one, though, that did blow up? Was it in Iran or in Syria recently? Where they hit some ammo depot, the Israelis did, and it looked crazy? And that was a real one? Well, yeah, you remember that one? Was it, I think you're right. I think you're right.

• 1:49:14Speaker 01

  That's heartbreaking.

• 1:49:15Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it's so scary. You watch the, the amount of explosion when it hits. You're like, Jesus. Check this out. Oh, this is a different one, but this is another one that's crazy. This is an ammunition depot building that blows up, but watch this.

• 1:49:31Speaker 01

  Oh, you're lying.

• 1:49:33Joe Rogan?

  Bro, how fucking scary is that? So play that back again.

• 1:49:37Speaker 01

  That's real?

• 1:49:38Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm. Watch this.

• 1:49:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's what it looks like when one of them things blows up. Yeah, that's crazy.

• 1:49:45Speaker 01

  Could a Kevlar thing help you from that? A Kevlar?

• 1:49:48Joe Rogan?

  No, no, no, no, no, no. Everyone's getting smushed. Especially if you're close. The buildings are getting eliminated.

• 1:49:55Speaker 01

  And what could you hide behind? Like, what type of thing would you do there?

• 1:49:57Joe Rogan?

  There's nothing. You're not gonna do anything. You're gonna get vaporized. It's only about how much distance you are from that blast. Here's one too. Yeah, this is the one, the aerial, that's right, the Syrian army one. Check this out. See if you can do it from the beginning. It's fucking bananas, dude. Watch this. Look at this. Boom.

• 1:50:15Speaker 01

  This just happened?

• 1:50:17Joe Rogan?

  Um.

• 1:50:17Speaker 03

  Couple of weeks ago, maybe.

• 1:50:18Joe Rogan?

  Three weeks ago, it says. Fuck, look at that.

• 1:50:24Speaker 01

  And that was in Syria?

• 1:50:25Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:50:25Speaker 01

  What did they do wrong?

• 1:50:32Joe Rogan?

  The way he just phrased that was so funny.

• 1:50:34Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, I don't, I don't know.

• 1:50:35Joe Rogan?

  Um, if you really wanna pay attention, you, you have to go down multiple rabbit holes.

• 1:50:40Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:50:40Joe Rogan?

  But, you know, Assad was just removed as the dictator of Syria.

• 1:50:45Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:50:46Joe Rogan?

  What's that, Jamie? Oh, I thought you did. Um, he did get removed, right? And, uh, is he dead or is he? Cause there was reports that he was in a plane. The plane was shot out of the sky. But then there was reports that he landed in Russia. So I don't even know what's true. Did, did he get a shot out of the sky? Or was that, that was like a story that was in the news.

• 1:51:06Speaker 03

  I do remember hearing that and, uh, it's not saying he's dead when I Google his name.

• 1:51:14Joe Rogan?

  Are the stories still up that says his plane got shot out of the sky? Cause I remember th- th- there were stories that said his plane got shot out of the sky. And then there was some Twitter story saying that he was, that he landed in Russia. I was like, what is going on with this? Um, but they wanted a regime change and uh, they got it.

• 1:51:33Speaker 01

  How hard was it for him to get?

• 1:51:34Joe Rogan?

  I don't know. You know, that's the problem. If you want to go down this rabbit hole and have a conversation with like Dave Smith about it.

• 1:51:40Speaker 01

  He knows?

• 1:51:40Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:51:41Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:51:41Joe Rogan?

  He'll take you down a rabbit hole.

• 1:51:42Speaker 01

  He's an interesting guy, huh?

• 1:51:44Joe Rogan?

  He knows a lot.

• 1:51:44Speaker 01

  He's very smart, huh?

• 1:51:45Joe Rogan?

  Very, very smart. He knows a lot. He knows a lot. And he like legitimately knows a lot. He's not bullshitting about what he knows.

• 1:51:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:51:52Joe Rogan?

  And that's why he gets these, these guys, they get cocky and they want to have, like Chris Cuomo, want to have a debate with them and he just trounces them.

• 1:51:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, he cooked them.

• 1:52:00Joe Rogan?

  He knows what he's talking about. He's, and he's not lying, right? The difference between a guy like, like any of these CNN type media darling type who pushed the fucking COVID narrative and pushed every mainstream narrative. Those guys, there's, that's a very specific kind of mindset. It's a, a bullshitter's mindset. And those guys all melt in front of actual conversations with people like Dave Smith, who know what they're talking about, are not ideologically captured.

• 1:52:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:52:33Joe Rogan?

  Because there's certain things you just can't argue. You can't argue that it, it's a, a good idea to do certain things. And if you have not made that conclusion in your mind, you're still thinking like you're employed at CNN. You're never going to beat a guy like Dave Smith in a conversation. You, you, cause he's not going to argue with you if you're right. If you're right, he's going to agree with you.

• 1:52:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, he seems so locked in.

• 1:52:54Joe Rogan?

  These people that are, they're doing a totally different thing. Reuters reports Assad may have died in plane crash later removes report. Oh, they got the call.

• 1:53:04Speaker 03

  So he escaped, I guess, but yeah, so their regime is gone and down.

• 1:53:09Joe Rogan?

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• 1:55:12Speaker 03

  I've seen no more updates other than this, that I don't know where he is.

• 1:55:17Speaker 01

  Do you believe that we still can get real news information, Joe?

• 1:55:21Joe Rogan?

  Not from me.

• 1:55:26Joe Rogan?

  Speaking of which, I have to correct something. Cause uh, there was a conversation that I had with um, uh, Giannis Poppe and Krista Stefano. We were talking about Jon Jones. I'd heard a rumor that Jon Jones wanted thirty million dollars to fight Tom Aspinall. And I did hear that rumor. And I did hear that the UFC uh, said yes, but it is not true. So Dana contacted me, said that rumor's bullshit. So I felt obligated to tell everybody. That was, that was a fake rumor. I don't even remember who, cause we did that podcast unfortunately. We did that podcast two weeks ago.

• 1:55:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:55:56Joe Rogan?

  I don't remember who told me that.

• 1:55:58Speaker 01

  What do you think the amount is that Jon Jones would fight him for? Or do you think it's an amount?

• 1:56:02Joe Rogan?

  Well, apparently Jon is thinking about retiring.

• 1:56:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:56:05Joe Rogan?

  And he should. I mean, he's going to have to someday. He should, I'm not saying he should retire. I'm saying he should think about it. Give the man all the time he wants. He can fight whenever he wants to fight. That's Jon Jones. He's the GOAT. So leave him alone. If he decides one day to come back, and he comes back and he wants to fight Tom Aspinall for the heavyweight title, the question is like, how long are you allowed to hold on to the title before they start having that conversation? Now, he just knocked out Stipe Miocic, so give the man months. Give the man five or six months. Just leave him the fuck alone. But at a certain important time, you have to decide who the heavyweight champion is. And if Tom is the interim heavyweight champion and Jon decides he doesn't want to fight anymore,

• 1:56:47Joe Rogan?

  he could do that. And he could do that also and then come back in a year and fight for the title. He could do that. Like, he could do whatever he wants. But he might decide, you know what? Had an unbelievable career, never lost, except the disqualification loss to a rule that has since been reversed. He's the GOAT. He retires. He's got plenty of money. He's got a opportunity to do some acting. Yeah.

• 1:57:12Speaker 01

  He's, he's an interesting character to me because he seems like them, he seems uh, unique kind of.

• 1:57:20Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he's very unique, yeah.

• 1:57:21Speaker 01

  Like you, he seems hard to pinpoint kind of. Does that make any sense or no?

• 1:57:26Joe Rogan?

  No, but that doesn't ever stop me from conversations with you.

• 1:57:29Speaker 01

  Thanks dude.

• 1:57:31Joe Rogan?

  I don't require you to make sense.

• 1:57:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, he just seems unique.

• 1:57:36Joe Rogan?

  Imagine if I were, listen, Theo, I really love you. I love talking to you, but you gotta make sense. Imagine that would ruin our whole relationship.

• 1:57:46Joe Rogan?

  That would be the most ridiculous requirement. Well, you know what Joe said to me? People go, what? That is so fucked up. Why would he say that?

• 1:57:56Speaker 01

  God, give me one of those gay steaks, huh? Those things are thirty bucks more. God damners.

• 1:58:02Joe Rogan?

  Comes out, they fucking pull it out of.

• 1:58:03Speaker 01

  You're telling me queer shoulders, nine dollars more per pound?

• 1:58:07Joe Rogan?

  They serve it in a high heel shoe. The waiter takes it out of the shoe, plates it.

• 1:58:16Speaker 01

  The waiter just kinda scoops it onto your tongue?

• 1:58:19Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they call it a juicy Santana.

• 1:58:21Speaker 01

  The, uh, the, uh, the, but they're gonna, they're gonna start, it's gonna start happening. They're gonna start getting these LGBTQ meats. They're gonna start getting.

• 1:58:29Joe Rogan?

  What's the D? You put a D in there.

• 1:58:30Speaker 01

  Uh, I don't know. I think probably for cat.

• 1:58:33Joe Rogan?

  She said L G B D. I don't know, dude.

• 1:58:39Speaker 01

  They keep putting other stuff in there.

• 1:58:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they always add ones. But the one that pisses me off the most, they add the A. That's asexual. Hey, stay out of it. This is not you. Why are you in there? See, it's like the, it's the electoral college thing that I was talking about.

• 1:58:54Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:58:55Joe Rogan?

  Is they gathered up this gang.

• 1:58:56Speaker 01

  We get enough.

• 1:58:57Joe Rogan?

  Of like fucking Springfield, Ohio. Come on in. Come on in. We could use your vote. And then just pile it all on. Do you think it's a good idea to get rid of the electoral college? Do you think it should be one person, one vote?

• 1:59:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, I kinda do because I think it just, there's no way that it's like askew at all then, you know? I feel like it's one person, one vote. That's it.

• 1:59:24Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:59:24Speaker 01

  You know, I just worry about still like how many extra votes they had the one time, you know, if that was ever figured out or not.

• 1:59:31Joe Rogan?

  Nobody figured.

• 1:59:32Speaker 01

  Which seems crazy, but.

• 1:59:33Joe Rogan?

  There's theories.

• 1:59:34Speaker 01

  I just wonder, once our voting gets compromised, it's a wrap.

• 1:59:38Joe Rogan?

  There's theories, but the theories suck. The number's too big. To me. Fifteen million's too many people. You look at the like, the graph of how many people voted. You know, for two thousand twelve, two thousand sixteen, and then there's two thousand twenty.

• 1:59:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:59:54Joe Rogan?

  It's bananas.

• 1:59:55Speaker 01

  People showed up.

• 1:59:56Joe Rogan?

  And then there's twenty four, it goes back to normal again. And twenty four is probably the most consequential election of our lifetime. Where people felt more nervous. Like if these motherfuckers get in charge one more time, like we could get like literally invaded by terrorists. We could lose all of our rights to say things on the internet. They could, I mean, they were talking about. Cracking down on hate speech online. Like the free speech is not hate speech. That Tim Walz guy was actually saying that. Hate speech. Free speech does not include hate speech. Like what are you, by whose fucking definition, yours? A guy who thinks tampons should be in the boys' room?

• 2:00:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:00:35Joe Rogan?

  Like when Trump started calling him Tampon Tim, that was like one of the.

• 2:00:38Speaker 01

  That's crazy.

• 2:00:39Joe Rogan?

  Of all his names, that's my all time favorite. It didn't get used that much because he only had it for a couple of months because the guy went away as soon as the election was over, but. Tampon Tim is the best.

• 2:00:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think, um. I, I'm amazed how quickly after the election, everything just felt like.

• 2:00:55Joe Rogan?

  Dude, people in New York, Ari was talking about it, he said, people in New York, even though they didn't win, like their guy didn't win, they're happy that they didn't win. There's like a marked feeling of relaxation, like. Because people in New York are realizing your fucking city is under attack.

• 2:01:10Speaker 01

  And now it's eighteen bucks to drive in and out of it, it's nine dollars.

• 2:01:13Joe Rogan?

  It's under attack, and I mean, like invaders. There's that too, but there's also your rights are under attack, you're being propagandized. You're, you're getting your, your finances drained, they're sucking money out of you and not providing you good service. You have terrible leadership, you have corrupt leadership. You know, they saw with Bill de Blasio and I think they thought it was gonna be better with Eric Adams and this Kathy Holtchel lady's out of her fucking mind. Like, you're watching these lunatics run that state and they're running it into the fucking ground and people have to wake up before the thing hits the rocks.

• 2:01:48Speaker 01

  Do you think we'll start to separate into different countries and states eventually? Like, or do you think new things like that will start to happen? Do you think we'll figure everything out?

• 2:01:56Joe Rogan?

  Well, we are different countries. We're the United States of America, but we're like Europe, really. Like, New York is so much different than Idaho.

• 2:02:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:02:06Joe Rogan?

  You know? Iowa is so much different than Florida. You know? I mean, we all speak the same language, but how much different is Miami to Portland? I mean, they might as well be in another fucking country.

• 2:02:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:02:20Joe Rogan?

  Like, you might, you should have a passport to go to Miami.

• 2:02:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:02:22Joe Rogan?

  You should, they should check your papers if you wanna go to Miami. You just went to Cancun, son.

• 2:02:27Speaker 01

  You should have a passport to go to Eastern Washington, too, dude.

• 2:02:30Joe Rogan?

  Yes. Yes. But it's like, we're a bunch of different spots and that's one of the things that makes it cool is that you can move to a new spot. But like you were saying earlier, like, you could move to a new spot for now. Like, we moved. We moved. You moved to Nashville, I moved to Texas. We moved because we didn't like the spot we're at. We found a spot that was like, this is better. Like, this is more relaxing. I feel better. This, but if you are under one universal control and that federal control controls all of the social issues, all of the contentious issues about whatever it is, whether it's Second Amendment, First Amendment, abortion,

• 2:03:12Joe Rogan?

  immigration, whatever, if you have like central control, then you stifle the debate about what's best for the population. Because when the people get into control, they enforce that and then they penalize the people that don't agree with them. And they make it like real obvious that you step out of line, they're gonna come get you and they're gonna arrest you, just like they're doing in the UK. While they're arresting people that are making Facebook posts, you bet your fucking ass, there's a lot of people that wanna post things on Facebook and they don't.

• 2:03:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:03:42Joe Rogan?

  Cause they don't wanna go to jail. And that's not good. That's not good. That's the problem with centralized control.

• 2:03:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, I just saw a thing where they, oh yeah, well, that seems like the scariest thing because it's like, well, how do you think that people here are like people there or that the beliefs here are like the beliefs there? That's why I wish we almost had like places where it's like, okay, if this is how you believe, then this is a place for you, right? And if this is how you believe, then this is a place for you. Because I think if we have, you know, I don't think you'd have that many places. You need probably 10 or 11 places.

• 2:04:13Joe Rogan?

  Well, but then you get the problem of people coming into a place and deciding that they want to put their own beliefs on this place and change the place.

• 2:04:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:04:22Joe Rogan?

  That's where things get real weird and you're seeing that with, uh, you know, a lot of countries that are getting a lot of Islamic immigrants and they want to enforce Sharia law. And they want to do it in their neighborhoods, do it in their communities and.

• 2:04:35Joe Rogan?

  What is that thing? Is this bullshit? Because there was, there was, uh, some, some patrol group of Muslims in New York that were driving around in cars and they were dressed like cops. And I saw that. I was like, is this rage bait? Is this clickbait? Like what, what is this? What is this I'm saying? This can't be real. So it was these guys dressed up like cops that had cars that looked like cop cars. It says something about like, like.

• 2:05:05Speaker 01

  Could have been a music video or something.

• 2:05:06Joe Rogan?

  It could be, it could be.

• 2:05:09Speaker 03

  Is it this? This is five years old.

• 2:05:12Joe Rogan?

  Muslim community patrols protecting US mosques. So are they just security guards that are around mosques? Is that what it is? And people are blowing this up?

• 2:05:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:05:20Joe Rogan?

  That's what it is. Okay.

• 2:05:21Speaker 03

  I just saw two, uh, uh, election count. The numbers are pretty similar from 2020 to 2024.

• 2:05:26Joe Rogan?

  Really? Now that they have everything?

• 2:05:29Speaker 03

  You have 155 million votes for this.

• 2:05:31Joe Rogan?

  Can we see it? The graph?

• 2:05:33Speaker 03

  Uh, well, I didn't, I didn't feed on the graph.

• 2:05:35Joe Rogan?

  See, but the thing was the graph was that there was 15 million extra votes.

• 2:05:38Speaker 03

  The graphs were made before the election, the counts were all done.

• 2:05:41Joe Rogan?

  Right, but wouldn't that mean, oh, so, so now the numbers are high again?

• 2:05:46Speaker 03

  Uh, I mean, yeah, California didn't, didn't finish counting until like a week ago or something like that. They weren't done for a long time.

• 2:05:54Speaker 01

  Are you serious?

• 2:05:54Speaker 03

  I don't know the actual date, but it was a long time.

• 2:05:56Joe Rogan?

  Trump was just talking about it. The California hasn't finished counting yet. Bro, they're the worst.

• 2:06:01Speaker 01

  How could you take so long to count?

• 2:06:03Joe Rogan?

  Here's the best part. In every close race, after prolonged counting for long periods of time, Democrats won.

• 2:06:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:06:09Joe Rogan?

  The ones where they're... What are the odds? The ones where you see like how many counties shifted red, that's the same thing. It's like people are getting fed up with it. They're getting tired. They're sick. They're sick of bullshit. So, hey dude, we're gonna do my podcast and we're gonna do your podcast. So this is what we're gonna do.

• 2:06:27Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 2:06:28Joe Rogan?

  So we will, right now, we'll stop, we'll take a piss, and then people that want to follow this conversation, go to Theo Von's podcast. And it'll be this from now out.

• 2:06:39Speaker 01

  Thank you, Joe. I appreciate it, yeah.

• 2:06:41Joe Rogan?

  Listen, I appreciate you, bro. We're gonna have fun tonight, too.

• 2:06:43Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 2:06:43Joe Rogan?

  I'm excited. Shane's coming down. We're coming to the club. Joe DeRosa's here.

• 2:06:47Speaker 01

  Oh, we gotta let Shane out of that sauna.

• 2:06:49Joe Rogan?

  No, he's out.

• 2:06:49Speaker 01

  Oh, yes, okay.

• 2:06:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's a door. He's pushing out. He's a big boy.

• 2:06:54Speaker 01

  Pickle me! No, I'm excited to see him. It's gonna be fun. Thank you, bro. Thank you.

• 2:06:57Joe Rogan?

  All right, we'll be right back, folks, on Theo's show.