Sept. 2025 Housing Market Update: Mild Correction, Any Signs of a Crash?

We can definitively say it now: the buyer’s market is here. The housing market is cooling down, but the deals are heating up as a “mild” correction slows down hot markets and gives buyers even more power in cold ones. With it comes buying opportunities—ones that real estate investors have been starved of over the past few years. You can negotiate for more, offer less, and lock in a lower mortgage rate than last year. The question is: will this correction turn into a full-blown housing crash? Dave’s giving you his honest (and data-backed) opinion in this September 2025 housing market update! Mortgage delinquencies are rising rapidly in one subset of the market, the crash-bro clickbaiters say it’s a sign of a coming housing apocalypse—are they finally right about something? One thing is certain: a few housing markets across the US are in danger of slipping into an even more oversupplied market. But, with new data showing that sellers are quitting and walking away, will this reverse the worrying trend? Stick around, we’ve got your housing market update without the hype. In This Episode We Cover The “mild” housing market correction: what it means and whether it’ll become a crash Updated home price predictions and how much prices will rise/fall by the end of the year Signs that you can start confidently bidding under asking price (but by how much?) Why inventory is beginning to reverse (have sellers finally had enough?) Mortgage delinquencies are rising: who’s affected and could it lead to foreclosures? What investors should do now to prepare to buy discounted deals (be patient!) And So Much More! Check out more resources from this show on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BiggerPockets.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/real-estate-1179 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Dave Meyer?

  The buyer's market is here. Deals are getting better, but there is risk in the market, too. So the key is to understand exactly what's happening right now. So you know a good deal when you see it and you can avoid costly mistakes. Are home prices likely to go up or down? Could the correction turn into a crash? Today, we're breaking down the most recent housing market data to help you understand how to find and execute on the increasing opportunities in the housing market.

• 0:35Dave Meyer?

  Hey, everyone. Welcome to the BiggerPockets Podcast. Thank you so much for being here. I'm Dave Meyer, real estate investor and housing market analyst. And today on the show, we're going to be looking at the data as we do every single month. And today we have a lot to cover. The market is moving into a correction, as I've been saying, was likely all year. And this creates interesting dynamics for investors, both good and bad. So today we'll start with what's happening with both prices nationally and regionally. We'll talk a little bit about what's likely to happen with price growth and appreciation in the next year. We'll even get into how rents are trending a little bit, inventory trends, housing market health,

• 1:18Dave Meyer?

  because we got to monitor if the correction is going to turn into a crash. And then, of course, at the end, we'll talk about what this all means. Let's do it. So let's talk about price growth first because this is an important one, of course. Everyone wants to know this one, and it's the one that really is changing. I think, according to the data, we are in a correction at this point. It really depends on who you ask what the exact number is, but most reliable sources have price appreciation somewhere between positive 1% and negative 1%. So pretty darn close to even, but that is on a nominal level. And that is really important to remember. We'll talk about that a couple of times throughout the show.

• 2:00Dave Meyer?

  But when I'm saying they're up or flat, I am not talking about inflation adjusted prices. So on the high end, they might be up 1% year over year. When you just look on paper, yeah, they're up a little bit. But when you compare that to inflation, which is up about 3%, you're actually losing a little bit of ground. And as a real estate investor, I want to know that difference. That difference matters a lot to me. The difference between nominal and real, real just means inflation adjusted pricing. And I think for most of the year at this point, we've seen that we are in negative real price appreciation, even though we're kind

• 2:39Dave Meyer?

  of flat on nominal home prices. So personally, I would categorize that as a very mild correction. This isn't a crash yet, and we'll talk more about whether or not that is likely. And it is certainly not happening in every region of the country. We're seeing very different performance depending on where you are, what state you are, even different cities in the same state are seeing really different performance. But I think on a national level, this kind of lull that we're feeling, I think at this point, we can qualify it as a correction and a buyer's market. And as I said at the top, and we'll get into a lot today, that means there's both risk and opportunity. But before we talk about how you should go about playing

• 3:23Dave Meyer?

  this new market dynamic that we're in, just wanted to drill into some of those regional differences that we're seeing quickly. Not much has changed in terms of patterns, just the scale has changed a little bit. So if you're living in the Midwest or you're living in the Northeast right now, you're probably not sensing that correction that I'm talking about, because even if you look at the numbers seasonally adjusted and inflation adjusted, you're probably seeing positive home price growth year over year. Almost all of the markets in the Northeast are still positive. The Midwest is starting to see more of a mixed bag. But like I said, the scale is changing. So even those markets that were

• 4:06Dave Meyer?

  really positive, take Milwaukee, like the beginning of the year, Milwaukee was like 8% year-over-year growth. Cleveland was really hot. We saw Indianapolis really hot. They're still positive, they're just less positive. So now they're 3% year-over-year. Now they're 4% year-over-year. And so that's why I am Saying that we are in a buyer's market and we're probably heading into more of a buyer's market. It's because even the markets that are doing well are doing less well. Now, that is certainly not an emergency, but you see the same trend of slowing appreciation in pretty much every market in the country. At this point, the markets that have actually turned negative in terms of sales price are mostly concentrated in the West.

• 4:47Dave Meyer?

  And, you know, we see markets in California and Washington, Oregon, Arizona, Denver for sure. And then in the Southeast and in Texas with the biggest declines still being in Florida and along the Gulf Coast. So overall, mixed bag, but the reason I'm saying that we're a buyer's market is there's just a lot of evidence. There's data that buyers now have a lot more leverage in the market. And this can be a very good thing for investors, as we'll talk about. But there's this metric I want to share. It's called the sale to list percentage. It's basically a ratio of what percentage of the asking price does it ultimately wind up selling for? So if you were in a perfectly balanced market, which pretty much never happens, it would be at 100%.

• 5:31Dave Meyer?

  That means every seller gets exactly the price that they list it for. If it is above 100%, that usually means that you're in a seller's market because people are bidding over asking in order to lock down deals. Or like we are seeing right now, when that number falls below 100, that usually means that you're in a buyer's market and buyers have regained power. Right now, according to Redfin, the average sale to list percentage or ratio has dropped to below 99%. So it's not like we are seeing a huge difference, but it means on average sellers are not getting their list price. And this is across the entire country.

• 6:12Dave Meyer?

  And so we'll talk about this more at the end, but one key takeaway that every investor should be thinking about when they hear this news is that they should be offering below list price because they probably, according to the average, are going to be able to get that. And of course, 1% not crazy, but that's the average. And so for investors who want to buy below current comps, who want to get the best possible deal that they can, not only should you be offering below list price, but the chances that you'll get a below list offer accepted are going up. So that's what we see so far in terms of sales prices across the country. Of course, I'm sure everyone wants to know now, where do we go from here?

• 6:54Dave Meyer?

  And actually pulled together forecasts from a couple of the top, you know, most reliable data providers out there to share with you. And then I'll give you my reaction in just a second. Zillow, which I know people knock on Zillow data, but I really appreciate one thing about Zillow's data. They revise their forecast every single month. And what they are saying right now is that they think through the end of 2025 that we'll wind up with home prices at negative 1% nominally. So similar to where we're at, but a modest correction. Now that is a change from where we started the year. Zillow was forecasting modestly positive prices, but they haven't changed that much. They've just pulled it down a little bit over the course of the year.

• 7:39Dave Meyer?

  Now we have the Case Schiller lens, which comes from Reuters. They actually updated their forecast in September and they are still forecasting a positive increase in appreciation of 2.1%. They say that they think home prices will grow next year, 1.3%. CoreLogic says 1.4% year over year. Goldman Sachs, they haven't updated since April, so I don't take that one as seriously, but they were saying 3.2%. And Realtor.com hasn't updated there since December, so take that one with a grain of salt, but they're saying 3.7% year over year. So that is what some of the more notable names in the industry think is going to happen. And I'm going to share with you what I think is going to happen. But first, I need to share with you what's going on

• 8:24Dave Meyer?

  with inventory and new listings, because I'm going to base all of my predictions and forecasts about pricing for the rest of the year and into 2026, based on inventory data and demand data. That is what is sort of the lead indicator for prices in the housing market. So let's dive into that. But first, we got to take a quick break. We'll be right back. This week's bigger news is brought to you by the Fundrise flagship fund. Invest in private market real estate with the Fundrise flagship fund. Check out fundrise.com/pockets to learn more.

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• 10:56Dave Meyer?

  Welcome back to the BiggerPockets Podcast. I'm here giving you my September housing market update. So far, we talked about that housing prices are pretty flat on a national basis, and we are still seeing some of those regional trends. And I shared with you what many of the big forecasters in the industry think are going to happen. Now, I want to share with you my projection for the rest of the year, and just some early thoughts about 2026. But first, I need to tell you what's going on with inventory, new listings. We need to dive into some of this other data, because that is what informs us where prices are going to go. Inventory, that word, is basically just a measure of how many homes are for sale at any given point.

• 11:38Dave Meyer?

  And what we saw in August was actually really surprising. The pattern over the last several years, basically since 2022, when rates started to go up, is that inventory has been climbing. And that makes sense if you have been paying attention to these housing market updates. But basically, what's been going on is more and more people are starting to sell their home. And even though there is some demand, there is still stable demand. We are seeing homes sit on the market longer, and that means inventory is going up. Just for some reference, from 2012 to 2017-ish, the average number of homes for sale at any given point in the United States was about

• 12:22Dave Meyer?

  2 million. For the years leading up to the pandemic, from 2017 to about 2020, it was, you know, 1.7, 1.8 million-ish. Then during the pandemic, it dropped all the way down to about 1.1 million. That was during peak craziness, and it has been slowly climbing back up. And we are now back above 1.5 million for the first time since 2019. So that's pretty significant. And that is worth noting. And you're gonna see a lot of headlines saying that inventory is climbing like crazy. But remember that even though it has been going up, and we're about 1.5 million, we're still about 16% below pre-pandemic levels. And I think the most-

• 13:04Dave Meyer?

  Interesting statistic I saw while I was researching and pulling the data for this episode is that inventory actually fell from July to August, according to Redfin. And that should make you pause because the narrative in the media and you know, the truth has been that inventory has been going up like crazy. And I reference this media narrative because I think I hear this a lot from people who are saying that the market is going to crash and they point to inventory going up over the last several years as evidence of that. And if inventory were to go up indefinitely at the pace that it is going up for the last couple of years, sure, yeah, the market would crash,

• 13:48Dave Meyer?

  but there is no guarantee or no reason to even believe that inventory would go up forever. So seeing inventory fall from July to August, which is the last month we have data for, is really notable. It is showing that inventory is starting to level off and it is only one month of data. So we're going to have to look at this for a few months, but just even seeing it level off for one month is really notable. And there are reasons to believe that this pattern, the shift in pattern, could be sustainable. And that is because we have this other lead indicator that we need to look at, which is new listings. Now, I know it's a little bit confusing, but new listings and inventory are actually different metrics. Inventory measures how many

• 14:30Dave Meyer?

  homes are for sale at a given point in time. The new listings actually measures how many people put their home for sale on the market in that month. So we're talking about August. And the difference is that, you know, you could have a lot of new listings and inventory can actually go down because there's a lot of demand and those homes are selling quickly. But actually, what we're seeing is inventory go down because new listings are actually going down as well. And this is another super important dynamic. We've actually seen this in the data for the last month or two, that counter to the crash narrative that are saying more and more people are selling their homes, they're desperate, they're going to do anything to sell their homes.

• 15:14Dave Meyer?

  That is not what is happening. What's happening is that people are recognizing that this might not be a great time to sell your home. They are also noticing sellers also notice that there is a correction going on. And they're probably thinking, you know what? I don't really want to sell right now. And so I'm going to not list my home for sale. And I think that is what's going on. That mindset is what's happening throughout the market. People are just choosing not to sell. And that is one reason. And I'll share some other data with you. I believe we are in a correction, but we are not likely heading for a crash. Because for as long as people have the option not to sell, it is very unlikely that you get crash dynamics. That really just hasn't happened before.

• 15:58Dave Meyer?

  And so it remains very unlikely. Now, this is going to be one that we're going to watch really closely. As you probably know, we do these housing market updates every single month. And so when we report back in October for, you know, September data, I will share with you what's going on with inventory and new listings. Because I am personally very curious if we see this fall. And for those of you who are astute observers of the housing market, you're probably saying, oh, maybe they fell because of seasonality. They always fall this time of year, and that is true. But the data I've been sharing with you is seasonally adjusted, which is how we want to look at this kind of stuff. There are all sorts of ways that analysts seasonally adjust this data. And we're seeing it fall on a seasonally adjusted basis,

• 16:42Dave Meyer?

  which is why it's so significant. Now, of course, there are still markets that are seeing huge increases in inventory. Lakeland, Florida is the biggest example. I actually pulled some data that shows the change in inventory from pre pandemic levels. Because I think that's still the metric we want to use here. Because sure, it might not ever go back to pre pandemic levels. But looking at inventory year over year, which is how you would want to look at it. It just doesn't really make sense because coming up from a artificial low like we've been in the last few years doesn't really tell us all that much. And so if you look at inventory changes from 2019 to the same month in this year,

• 17:27Dave Meyer?

  that's what really tells you a lot. And what we see is in certain markets like Lakeland, Florida, that's the number one. It's up 60% over pre-pandemic levels, which is huge. Austin is up above 30%. San Antonio above 30%. Denver's sitting at about 27%. We see Tampa pretty high. New Orleans pretty high above pre-pandemic levels. That's why these markets are likely going to see price declines. Meanwhile, you look at places like Providence, Rhode Island and Hartford, Connecticut, they're still like 60% below pre-pandemic levels. So the chances of them seeing corrections are relatively small, but it's still absolutely possible.

• 18:10Dave Meyer?

  So, given all that, my forecast for the remainder of the year is that we are going to remain relatively flat. I'm sticking with the prediction I made in November of last year is that we are going to be plus or minus two or three percentage points on a national basis, but the general vibe of the housing market is going to be pretty much flat. And I think that's what we were seeing. And my hypothesis about that is that affordability in the housing market just wasn't going to change that much. I know that in the beginning of the year, a lot of people were saying mortgage rates were going to be in the fives. I never bought that. I have been saying that they are going to stay in the sixes, somewhere between 6.25, 6.75, somewhere in that range for most of the year, and that has been accurate. And I think that's where mortgage rates are staying for the remainder of this year.

• 18:55Dave Meyer?

  I know that the Fed has said that they are going to cut rates two more times this year. I don't think it's going to move mortgage rates that much. Maybe a little bit, but I would be pretty surprised if it goes below 6% by the end of this year, just because of what is going on with inflation, what is going on with the risk of recession. I just don't think mortgage rates are going to move. And I think inventory is starting to level off. So if you look at those two things combined, I think we're going to get more of the same, at least for the remainder of 2025, which it's crazy to say is really only three more months. So as we look forward to 2026 to understand if we're going to get into a crash, or if the housing market will recover, or if we'll have more of the same. We really need to understand the state of the American homeowner,

• 19:40Dave Meyer?

  and we're going to do that right after this break.

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• 22:44Dave Meyer?

  Welcome back to the BiggerPockets Podcast. I'm Dave Meyer, giving you our September 2025 housing market update. We've talked about prices, we've talked about inventory, and I want to turn our attention to a third bucket of data that I think is super important going forward. This is homeowner health. Just generally, how is the average American homeowner doing with their properties that they own? Because to me, this is another lead indicator, maybe the main lead indicator that we need to look at going into 2026, about whether the correction that we're in is going to turn into a crash. Like I mentioned, inventory is super important to that.

• 23:26Dave Meyer?

  But if we want to understand why inventory is leveling off and whether that's going to change and it's going to start accelerating again, to me, it really comes down to homeowner health. As I said earlier, people right now, the reason inventory is leveling off is because they are choosing not to sell. They don't have to sell. In other words, they are not being forced to sell, which is the term that we use in the housing market to describe when people no longer can pay their mortgage and are forced to sell their property on the market. This dynamic can really push up inventory and can flood the market in the right circumstances to create crash scenarios. So we need to know if this is

• 24:06Dave Meyer?

  going to happen. And luckily, we have tons of data that help us understand whether or not this is likely. The first thing that I like to look at is just delinquencies, right? This is how many people are behind on their mortgage payment. Because I know people look at a price declines and think, oh, my God, they're going to get foreclosed on. That is not actually how this works. This is a common misconception about the housing market. You cannot be foreclosed on just because the value of your property goes down. If you are quote unquote underwater, that does not mean that the bank can foreclose on you. The only way that foreclosures start to happen is if people start to default

• 24:48Dave Meyer?

  on their mortgages. Basically, they stop making their payments. And as of now, that is not happening. What we saw in 2008, in that time, we saw delinquencies go up above 10%. They were above 5% from about 2006 to, I don't know, 2014. So for eight years, we saw delinquencies rate above 5%. As of right now, they're at 3.5%. Before the pandemic, they were about 4%. So even in 2019, when the housing market felt relatively normal, the delinquency rate was higher than it was today. And this actually makes sense,

• 25:30Dave Meyer?

  right? Think about how many people refinanced their mortgages during 2020, 2021, 2022. The ability for people to pay their mortgages has only gone up over the last couple of years. Now, there are certain kinds of mortgages. That are seeing increases of delinquencies and we'll get into that. But I really want to just emphasize this. Foreclosures really are still below pre pandemic levels and delinquency still below pre pandemic levels. Now, there are some pockets of mortgages that are seeing increases in delinquencies. Those mostly come from FHA loans. We have seen those go up to about 10, 11%, which are above pre pandemic levels. So that is notable.

• 26:14Dave Meyer?

  They're about at 2015 levels, but they're not like skyrocketing and they've started to level off a little bit. And the fact that they've risen in recent months actually makes a lot of sense because there was a moratorium on foreclosures in FHA loans for a while. That ended, I think, in April. And so seeing them spike up in April makes sense, but we really haven't seen them keep going up from there. Same sort of thing is happening with VA loans as well. We're seeing modest increases in delinquencies. They are above pre pandemic levels. So these are things that we do need to keep an eye on. But keep in mind that these types of mortgages make up about 15% of the overall mortgage market.

• 26:55Dave Meyer?

  So that's why when I say the aggregate delinquency rate is still low, that's true. It's because FHA and VA loans only make up a small portion of the mortgage market. So that's one side of the homeowner health equation. Basically, we're seeing very low delinquencies. We're seeing very low foreclosure rates. Of course, that can change if we saw just a huge break in the labor market. Unemployment skyrocketed. That could change, but as of right now, there is no evidence that that is happening. So that would have to be a total change in the pattern going forward. Obviously, we'll update you on that. The other piece of homeowner health that I want to share with you, I don't think we've talked about on these

• 27:36Dave Meyer?

  market updates over the last couple of months is just how much equity US homeowners have right now. The number is actually about $17 trillion in terms of equity in the United States. I just want to say that again, the aggregate amount of equity that the US homeowners have Is it 17 trillion dollars, which is an all time high? And the number of mortgages that are underwater is tiny. It's like 1%. But what's kind of crazy about this is just how healthy the average American homeowner is still right now. With that 17 trillion dollars of equity built in.

• 28:19Dave Meyer?

  Of that 17 trillion dollars, this is crazy. The quote unquote, "tappable equity," which is basically if everyone in the United States who has a home and has positive equity, they all went out and did their maximum cash out refi. They could pull out 11.5 trillion dollars in equity, which is remarkable. And it's going up. It was up 4% quarter over quarter. It was up 9% year over year. And this just shows how much money the average American homeowner has right now. So again, this is another reason why we probably are not going to see a crash.

• 28:58Dave Meyer?

  Because there is just so much wealth for the average American homeowner and they are not having problems paying their mortgages. So if things get bad in the broader economy, they're just going to choose not to sell. And that provides a bottom for a housing market. And that is what happens during a normal housing correction. And I think that's what we're seeing here. So in summary, average American homeowner still doing pretty well. We are not anywhere near where we were in 2008, where all of these red flags were flashing warning signs. Like we saw delinquency rates going up before 2008. Homeowner equity was declining for years. That is not happening right now. And of course, things could change in the future, but the data suggests we are in a regular correction

• 29:41Dave Meyer?

  and we are not on the precipice of a crash. So remember that. So what do we make of all this data as investors for the rest of 2025 and heading into next year? My main point to investors right now and has been for the last couple of months, and I think is going to remain that way for the foreseeable future, is that being in a buyer's market is an interesting time. It creates risk in the market for sure, because prices could be going down and we don't know when they're going to pick back up. At the same time, it also creates opportunity. I see this almost every day. The average deal that I am seeing come across my desk is better than it has been probably since 2021 or 2022.

• 30:25Dave Meyer?

  And I think that is going to stay that way for a while. Because even though the market is not in a free fall, I do think we're going to see more motivated sellers. And I think we're going to see a lot of the social media investors, people who are sort of a little bit interested in real estate investing, but not really committed to it. I think they're going to kind of go away for a while at least. Because the benefits of investing in a correction market like we're in are not that obvious, right? The average person is going to see, oh, prices went down 1% year over year on Zillow. And they're going to say, you know what? I don't want to buy that. But for an investor who has a long-term buy and hold perspective,

• 31:08Dave Meyer?

  they could be thinking now is the time to buy great assets at a slight discount. And to me, that is an attractive option. Now, you have to be very disciplined and patient to not buy junk on the market because there's going to be plenty of that. But if you find the opportunity to buy great assets during a less competitive market like we're in right now, that is a good opportunity for buy and hold investors. The other piece of this that I haven't really gotten into much today, maybe I'll do another episode on this soon, is that I believe that cash flow prospects are going to improve starting in 2026. We are getting through a lot of the glut of supply in the multifamily market, and it's still going to take a little bit of time.

• 31:53Dave Meyer?

  But I do think we're going to start seeing rent prices increase gradually next year. And with prices staying stagnant, that means the opportunity for cash flow is going to improve. And that should get every buy and hold, long-term investor excited. But the key, again, to investing in this market is, one, having that long-term perspective. Because if you're buying a property to sell it in a year or two years, I think it's a little bit risky right now. Now, I'm not Saying you can't do it, but if you're gonna do a BRRRR, just run the numbers and make sure if you can't refinance, that it's still worth holding on to. I think that is the prudent, conservative way to approaching this kind of market.

• 32:36Dave Meyer?

  If you're gonna hold for five to 10 years and you can find great assets and they pencil at current interest rates, I would do those deals. I'm personally looking at those deals and I think that is a perfectly good approach to investing in this market. But remember, be patient and negotiate because you can. We are seeing buyers regain the power in the housing market for the first time in a long time. And you, as investors, it's on you to go out and use that newfound leverage that you have in the market. To me, that's an exciting opportunity and hopefully you're feeling the same way, that you're gonna be able to go out and buy great assets at below current market comps. That is real estate investing 101, and I think it's going to be achievable

• 33:21Dave Meyer?

  for a lot more people in the coming year or so. That's our housing market update for September 2025. Thank you guys so much for listening. I'm Dave Meyer, and by the way, if you have any questions about this, always hit me up on BiggerPockets or on Instagram, where I'm at the Data Deli. Happy to answer any questions you have there. Thanks again. We'll see you next time.

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