Stassi Schroeder: A Proud Basic B*tch (FBF)

Get ready for an outrageously good time as Stassi Schroeder joins Call Her Daddy. Once Alex and Stassi start talking, there's no shutting them up. When discussing her outfit of the day for the interview, she confesses to once splurging 40k on a national OOTD holiday. Settling some debates, Stassi shares her take on various trends, determining whether they are basic or not. Aperol Spritzes? GRWM videos? Prepare for an unexpected opinion as she weighs in on Ozempic. Alex and Stassi also take a moment to reflect on Stassi's growth since her time on Vanderpump Rules, reminiscing about some of her most iconic moments. While she appreciates her current drama-free life, Stassi admits missing a little bit of excitement and sometimes tries to stir up some trouble with her husband. Stassi has a revelation that will shake Vanderpump fans to the core - she's not actually a birthday person. She gushes about how she knew her husband was "the one" and gives a glimpse into what her life is truly like without the cameras around. Get ready for a wild ride with Stassi Schroeder on Call Her Daddy!

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:00Alex Cooper?

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• 0:45Alex Cooper?

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• 1:30Alex Cooper?

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• 2:13Alex Cooper?

  What is up, daddy gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy.

• 2:24Speaker 01

  Finally.

• 2:25Alex Cooper?

  We.

• 2:26Speaker 01

  We did it. We did it. We're here.

• 2:28Alex Cooper?

  How's your mic feeling?

• 2:30Speaker 01

  Um, what do you mean? I can't hear myself.

• 2:32Alex Cooper?

  Well, you but you like, is it close enough?

• 2:34Speaker 01

  Oh, I mean, I it's right. Listen, normally I do it with headphones.

• 2:37Alex Cooper?

  So you're it's a little mind fucky.

• 2:38Speaker 01

  So, yeah, so I don't feel like I'm doing a real podcast right now.

• 2:41Alex Cooper?

  Doing headphones?

• 2:42Speaker 01

  No, I look so much better like this, I think.

• 2:45Alex Cooper?

  I used to do headphones. I was like, it's giving like more ogre vibe because it's just like so well, I'm like just calling you an ogre because you wear headphones in your podcast. But you know what I'm saying?

• 2:53Speaker 01

  No, it does. But I feel like I can't. Well, I'm not leading this podcast. You are. I can't lead properly if I can hear other things.

• 3:02Alex Cooper?

  Okay, like, do you have ADHD?

• 3:04Speaker 01

  I.

• 3:04Alex Cooper?

  You're like, no.

• 3:05Speaker 01

  I mean, I used to be addicted to Adderall, but I think I was just abusing it. I don't think I actually like.

• 3:11Alex Cooper?

  Like, no doctor prescribed me Adderall. I did it myself.

• 3:14Speaker 01

  I did it.

• 3:14Alex Cooper?

  That's fair. I just realized I didn't even introduce you. Stassi Schroeder, welcome to Call Her Daddy.

• 3:20Speaker 01

  Thank you. I'm so excited. No, like, I know everyone says that, but I'm ridiculously excited. And this room is so chic. I'm just so obsessed with the color of this, the way it just.

• 3:29Alex Cooper?

  These used to be orange and I got them in here and I was like, this needs to immediately change. Like, you don't feel Call Her Daddy vibes from this? What is that noise?

• 3:38Speaker 01

  A fucking plane. What do you mean?

• 3:39Alex Cooper?

  Sorry, sorry. No, because there has been something happening with our air conditioner recently that it sounds.

• 3:44Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 3:45Alex Cooper?

  It's like, and then I don't focus. Okay, that's probably I should be wearing headphones. How did you pick your outfit today? We were just talking about.

• 3:50Speaker 01

  Okay, wait, no, I have to tell you this, okay? Because I haven't stressed out this much about a fucking outfit. I can't even tell you. It was harder to pick an outfit for this right now than it is to like, go on tour, go on a red carpet, fancy outfits, because let me explain.

• 4:07Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 4:08Speaker 01

  I want to match your vibe, you know? I'm not here to like, act like I'm going to some fancy gala.

• 4:16Alex Cooper?

  But you could.

• 4:16Speaker 01

  While you're wearing sweatpants and a t-shirt. But Alex, not everyone looks as cute.

• 4:22Alex Cooper?

  No.

• 4:22Speaker 01

  As you do in sweatpants as a t-shirt. And when you're pregnant and you feel like you look like a beast, it's extra hard. So like, it would have been easier for me to just like, really like, find a nice dress or outfit that's chic and nice and cool, like, maybe like, you know, a little bit businessy. I don't know, whatever. But this. These are literally, I think this is like $10 from H and M.

• 4:43Alex Cooper?

  It's good. No, I'm not kidding.

• 4:45Speaker 01

  These are maternity leggings.

• 4:46Alex Cooper?

  You walked in and I said, I literally didn't notice you were pregnant for a second. Like, I have questions about you being pregnant, but I forgot.

• 4:51Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 4:51Alex Cooper?

  And I'm not just gassing you up. Like, I'd be like, you look pregnant.

• 4:54Speaker 01

  Pregnant women everywhere need to hear that. You know what? If you see a pregnant woman on the street, just be like, you didn't even look pregnant. Like, you didn't even li- it took me a while to realize. That's what we want to hear.

• 5:06Alex Cooper?

  It's true. And like, the outfit is great because you were worried, like, am I sitting? Like, can you see my belly? First of all, like, let it rock, but also, it's because you're wearing all black, you can't really see it.

• 5:14Speaker 01

  That's what I'm here for.

• 5:15Alex Cooper?

  And the chairs are like, also, who gives a fuck? You're pregnant. That's amazing.

• 5:18Speaker 01

  I know, but I'm not one of those who, I wish I was one of those women, like Rihanna, that like, you know, wears, that has her belly out. I'm like, God, she looks so good. There's so many women that look so great like that. I've never felt that way. I feel best when I'm in bags. You know?

• 5:33Alex Cooper?

  Well, this bag is looking phenomenal today.

• 5:36Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 5:36Alex Cooper?

  So, you're pregnant. How are you feeling?

• 5:39Speaker 01

  Honestly, I feel really good because this pregnancy isn't during, it, it, it feels like it's my first pregnancy because my first one was during COVID. So I wasn't allowed to leave my house.

• 5:49Alex Cooper?

  Got it.

• 5:49Speaker 01

  You know what I mean? So I'm able to live my life this time around. I'm able to work. I'm able to travel. I'm able to go to restaurants. You know?

• 5:58Alex Cooper?

  You probably didn't have anyone being like, super sweet to you and like, holding the door and making you.

• 6:01Speaker 01

  No, I never got that experience. I never got, you know, and that is like a rite of passage as a pregnant woman to be treated like a fucking queen.

• 6:08Alex Cooper?

  Wow.

• 6:09Speaker 01

  And you didn't get that. Now I'm getting it. So I'm just like feeding off of that energy, you know?

• 6:13Alex Cooper?

  Okay, I do love that for you because I do, I agree with you. Pregnancy and COVID obviously probably had pros of like, you don't have to leave the house. You can just like.

• 6:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, so when you did look like a beast, it didn't matter. No one was there.

• 6:25Alex Cooper?

  But I'm sure your husband still loved you so much.

• 6:27Speaker 01

  He says he did.

• 6:28Alex Cooper?

  Oh. You're like, we're not divorced yet. So how does he handle your pregnancy? Like, what is he like when you're pregnant?

• 6:35Speaker 01

  I mean, he really is great. Like, he, I, I really did luck out with that, but he can't, like, he says that, he's like, I give you compliments all the time. I tell you how beautiful you are. I want to have sex with you all the time. I'm always coming after you. And I'm like, it doesn't matter. I need to hear those things from other women. I need to hear I look beautiful from other women. I need the compliments from other women. He tries so hard to make me feel good about myself. And of course, I want my husband to desire me and want me and think I'm beautiful and all of those things. But there's just something about a compliment from another woman that really is what like feeds my soul. That's what keeps me going.

• 7:11Alex Cooper?

  No, I get what you're saying. It's like there's a difference between like men objectifying us where like we get it. And like, obviously some men also like love when women are pregnant too.

• 7:19Speaker 01

  No, Bo's like that. So Bo is like, I wish I could, I mean, I'm, yeah, you talk about sex a lot.

• 7:25Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, I don't know why. I don't know why. This is a good morning, America.

• 7:29Speaker 01

  Sorry, sorry, brain fog. Yeah. No, he's like, I wanna like, I love your pregnant body. It's so sexy. I love when you change in front of me. I love all this. And I just feel gross. So I'm just like, no, I mean, thank God. Because imagine if I like he was somebody who

• 7:44Alex Cooper?

  No.

• 7:44Speaker 01

  who didn't like a pregnant body.

• 7:46Alex Cooper?

  That is actually something I've thought about. I've heard women say like, he really just like wasn't into the pregnancy thing. And in my mind, I'm like, I don't know if I could be with a partner that doesn't at least fucking fake it. But I guess you could probably tell if they fake it.

• 7:58Speaker 01

  You totally would be able to tell.

• 8:00Alex Cooper?

  Like Matt, like my partner, I don't even, I'm not pregnant and I pray to God I can get pregnant. But like if I get pregnant, all he talks about is like, oh my God, like I don't know how I'm gonna control myself. And I'm like, wha- what?

• 8:11Speaker 01

  Yes, but see, at least you have that. So it doesn't matter what, what side effects, like pregnancy side effects, you have like, he will still be so into you. But at the same time, it's a burden because I don't feel sexual whatsoever at all.

• 8:26Alex Cooper?

  That's like, I was gonna ask you, like, how do you handle, like, I think women are great online that talk about their pregnancy. But there's a little too much glamorization from what I've heard from some moms of like, it's not all fucking great. And sometimes you feel like shit about yourselves. And sometimes it's like, not the sexiest that you're feeling. And so like, can you talk about the real shit of like, how are you feeling with your sex life?

• 8:48Speaker 01

  Oh, my God, no, my sex, I literally have zero sex drive. But I will say that I am a champion and I take one for the team in my household. And I don't let it go like a week and a half. Like I will, if I've, if it's like a week and, you know, three days, I'm like, I should probably do this. Like I'm being selfish right now.

• 9:08Alex Cooper?

  No, but I think that's so relatable. And I feel like people don't like to talk about that of like, sometimes you gotta just, and it's different if you're like hooking up with a random guy and you're like, I guess I have to sleep with him. No, no, no. This is your husband. It's your relationship. Sometimes you're like, I'm aware I have no sex drive. I still love you and I'm attracted to you.

• 9:22Speaker 01

  And I want him to feel good about himself. And it does bond us. It's like, once we do it, I'm like, oh, I'm so glad I did this. I should do this more.

• 9:31Alex Cooper?

  Isn't that the worst with sex? You're like, if sometimes you're too in your head or you have no sex drive that month or whatever it is, you're like, I literally can't even get myself there. I know I love him, but like, I'm not there. And then afterwards, you're like, we should do that more. And they're like, fuck you.

• 9:43Speaker 01

  I know.

• 9:44Alex Cooper?

  Fuck you. I literally ask you all the time. Sometimes it just takes like going through the act.

• 9:48Speaker 01

  Yes, 100%. Yes.

• 9:50Alex Cooper?

  Do you have like an alter ego when you're pregnant?

• 9:53Speaker 01

  This is how I think of myself. Um, I, when I'm pregnant, I feel like I'm, I'm Santa.

• 10:00Speaker 01

  I'm not joking. I just feel like this round, jolly.

• 10:06Alex Cooper?

  What is your alter ego? So he's like, so I'm Santa. Through and through, like, don't get.

• 10:11Speaker 01

  For real. Like I look in the mirror and I'm like, everything's round and I'm just jolly. And I'm just, you know, I'm so excited about the baby that, that like, and I'm sober. So like you don't, I don't get depressed that easily when I'm pregnant.

• 10:26Alex Cooper?

  Right, right. You're not like having the up and down of like getting hammered one night, waking up, like regretting your life. Backing up, you are like the queen of OOTDs.

• 10:33Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 10:34Alex Cooper?

  Like I, I remember literally like back in the day, like everyone would start hashtagging it, but you really like owned it. You're like, this is my motherfucking outfit of the day.

• 10:42Speaker 01

  I bought a national holiday. What a waste of money. Honestly, that's so cringe.

• 10:46Alex Cooper?

  You actually bought it?

• 10:48Speaker 01

  You have to buy it. You don't just get to like own holidays for free, Alex.

• 10:52Alex Cooper?

  Like, how much did it cost? Is this gonna be embarrassing?

• 10:55Speaker 01

  It's so embarrassing. I think it was like forty thousand dollars. No, it it was. No, it's so embarrassing. And you guys, I would not do it again. Okay, I would never just throw away that money to have a holiday. But at the time, I was like, oh, this is good branding. I was just in like business mode. My book was coming out. I'm like, I think that this is good branding. So it's like, I'm putting money into my career. That's how I felt. But no, I mean.

• 11:18Alex Cooper?

  Hold on. What exactly? That feels like when people buy like a fucking star in the sky. Can't we all just point like that one's mine? Like, what day is it?

• 11:27Speaker 01

  It's it's June thirtieth.

• 11:28Alex Cooper?

  Okay. And it's not like on all of our calendars, like Apple didn't upload like. So how do we even know you own it? Like, what was the point of buying it?

• 11:37Speaker 01

  Well, so can I tell you something that like you own it for a year? And I didn't know that. And so the next year came around and they were like, all right, you gotta pay for it again. Or like the dude, I think it was just the same amount of money. I'm like, you're out of your fucking mind. This is a lifetime commitment that you think I'm gonna spend this every year. So now technically, I think on the list, if you were to like, search the list, my name isn't even up there anymore. But everyone on Instagram, it's already been hashtagged in in all of that.

• 12:06Alex Cooper?

  Do you really think you had to buy it?

• 12:08Speaker 01

  They thought I would. Like, honestly, Alex, I like.

• 12:11Alex Cooper?

  Forty thousand dollars?

• 12:13Speaker 01

  I'm so embarrassed. I'm so embarrassed.

• 12:15Alex Cooper?

  No, wait, I think it's.

• 12:16Speaker 01

  I don't care if people come for me because like I deserve to be come for.

• 12:20Alex Cooper?

  I agree, but I think it also gives though a little bit of credit to like, you really were committed. And like, you are.

• 12:27Speaker 01

  To the OTG.

• 12:27Alex Cooper?

  I also just can't believe it was forty thousand dollars for a year.

• 12:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, a year. Maybe not the best business decision.

• 12:33Alex Cooper?

  No, but I respect it.

• 12:35Speaker 01

  You loved it. You know who I respect? The people who came up with this business.

• 12:39Alex Cooper?

  I I was about to say.

• 12:40Speaker 01

  People who are just who are like, you know what? I'm gonna own a national social media calendar. How does one get the authority?

• 12:48Alex Cooper?

  And were you just like a little miss like Googling? Like, how do I get my own day? And like.

• 12:53Speaker 01

  No, I think I asked like my agents or my publicist and I was like, how do I find my own holiday? And they were like.

• 12:58Alex Cooper?

  I want one. Okay, well, this does go give you credibility.

• 13:02Speaker 01

  Why?

• 13:02Alex Cooper?

  I don't know. I just feel like you. Gives you some type of credibility, like in the fashion world, like you're giving, like you're, you're dedicated.

• 13:10Speaker 01

  First of all, the fashion world, they don't say O O T D.

• 13:13Alex Cooper?

  No, you're right. You are.

• 13:15Speaker 01

  I just literally ostracized myself from the fashion world.

• 13:18Alex Cooper?

  You're like never getting invited to anything.

• 13:19Speaker 01

  One hundred percent.

• 13:20Alex Cooper?

  But you like fashion.

• 13:21Speaker 01

  I love it. Yeah.

• 13:22Alex Cooper?

  Okay, what clothing staple did you used to wear that you would not be caught dead in now? Like what's something that you were like, oh, I fucking love this shit. Now you're like, huh?

• 13:31Speaker 01

  Statement necklaces. I rode so hard for statement.

• 13:35Alex Cooper?

  I remember that.

• 13:36Speaker 01

  You know what? They will come back again. Not in the way that I wore them before. But I mean, like they weighed me down. Like they were, it was like they were battle, like to wear into battle, like the plates of armor. Like it was, it's insane. If you look back on like Vanderpump Rules interviews, I'm like, who, how?

• 13:56Alex Cooper?

  Huge.

• 13:56Speaker 01

  Did I think that that?

• 13:57Alex Cooper?

  Like your whole chest.

• 13:58Speaker 01

  That it was, that was the outfit.

• 14:00Alex Cooper?

  But it will come back. That's what like, I, I was gonna ask you, like, what's a trend that you're like so not into? But I don't really care about trends because I'm like, it always comes back.

• 14:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:09Alex Cooper?

  It's not an actual trend. It's like, this is fashion and it's just what's in, what's not sure, but like it's gonna come back.

• 14:15Speaker 01

  It does. It always comes back. And you know, now I'm to the point, God, I love Gen Z. I really do. I really appreciate them because they have this like anything goes mentality about fashion and clothing that I just really fucking love. Because I feel like while they do follow trends, they don't. At the same time, it's kind of like just express yourself and wear what you feel comfortable in and what you like. And, and I've found what I, what looks I like and whether they're dated or not, I kind of don't care. And Gen Z gave me permission. So.

• 14:44Alex Cooper?

  You know what? I agree with that because I feel like back in the day when I was growing up, if you didn't have like the double popped Abercrombie polo with like the lace.

• 14:53Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 14:54Alex Cooper?

  And like the denim skirt and the leggings and the, you're like, you're a loser.

• 14:58Speaker 01

  Who were you?

• 14:58Alex Cooper?

  Nobody.

• 14:59Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 14:59Alex Cooper?

  You were a loser. You weren't in the in crowd. And so like, I remember begging my mom, like, I know this is so expensive, but like this is literally for my social equity. Like I'm not going to be respected on dress down days if I can't wear this.

• 15:11Speaker 01

  One hundred percent.

• 15:12Alex Cooper?

  No one actually cares that much anymore.

• 15:13Speaker 01

  No one cares. You can. Get away with so much and what a glorious time to live in.

• 15:17Alex Cooper?

  You're right. And everyone loves to dupe. Like everyone's like down for like if it's real, actually people are like, that's like nasty.

• 15:24Speaker 01

  Yeah. Like, why are you buying national holidays? Like that's, but that's giving the same energy. Wait, can I just say this? Okay. So when you were in Milan, you were there for Prada, right? I was just talking to my hair and makeup person about this. I was like, Alex in Prada is such a good like mix and vibe and relationship. You are such a good Prada girly. So like, I hope that that like

• 15:46Alex Cooper?

  Keeps going.

• 15:46Speaker 01

  That keeps going and just like builds into just like something bigger because that was like, I would not have thought that.

• 15:52Alex Cooper?

  Neither.

• 15:52Speaker 01

  Until I saw your photo.

• 15:55Alex Cooper?

  Me either, saucy.

• 15:57Speaker 01

  Well, because I just see you just being casual and everything, but then I saw you in your looks and I'm like, yes.

• 16:03Alex Cooper?

  I really appreciate that because I will say I was nervous because I too never envisioned like what fashion house would I like jive with the most? And when I found the Prada moment, it felt so me and I actually felt so comfortable and confident, which like I never fucking going into these type of events feel confident because I'm like, I'm a poser. Like I don't wear this shit all the time. But now Prada, I've started to like buy my own shit from Prada and be like, I actually feel like if I'm dressing up, Prada feels right for me.

• 16:32Speaker 01

  No, it does. Really fit well. I loved it.

• 16:35Alex Cooper?

  This is like a really random fact that I learned on Selling Sunset and I don't know if it's true for every woman, so I need to ask you this. On Selling Sunset, there was a woman that's pregnant and it was her first time being pregnant. And she was asking advice from other moms and the other mom was like, oh, by the way, girl, like, yeah, you can't shave your V after like a certain amount of time.

• 16:53Speaker 01

  No, I can't see. I'm, I go rogue. No, literally like this morning, I just, I guess.

• 16:58Alex Cooper?

  You just guess.

• 16:59Speaker 01

  I literally feel around and I'm like, hmm.

• 17:03Alex Cooper?

  Okay, that's good to know. So like you actually can't see it, but then that woman was like, so I just didn't touch it. I don't, I think it'd be way too itchy for me. And then she was like, or have your man do it.

• 17:13Speaker 01

  Oh, no, I wouldn't. I don't trust any, no, I don't trust him with a razor. That just does not sound enjoyable. No, you can't see at a certain point. You can't, you just have to feel for it. Yeah, I can't grow it out. It's way too itchy.

• 17:26Alex Cooper?

  Right, because that's what I was thinking. Like, at least if you're, if you can't see your vagina over the belly, you're at least gonna go rogue, but like, you'll just, you're not getting it completely bald. You're just getting it down to a place where you're comfortable that you're not itchy.

• 17:38Speaker 01

  I mean, I try to get it, but I try to do it.

• 17:41Alex Cooper?

  And you're just like, you can't see shit.

• 17:43Speaker 01

  I can't see shit. I mean, we've done it for so long that like,

• 17:45Alex Cooper?

  That's true.

• 17:46Speaker 01

  It's like muscle memory.

• 17:48Alex Cooper?

  No, that's true. I do have a lot of women that still write in that are like, can you like, give us a tutorial on like, how to shave? And I'm like, girls, like, let's, let's not.

• 17:57Speaker 01

  Really easy.

• 17:58Alex Cooper?

  Like, this show, you can come here for a lot of things, but like, I feel like you can like, look it up somewhere. And like, we don't need to go that into, okay, and if like, you're pregnant doing it, like, someone with, that's not pregnant, and you can see that shit, like, just take your time.

• 18:09Speaker 01

  No excuse, yeah.

• 18:11Alex Cooper?

  Okay, you have written two New York Times bestsellers. Congratulations, you little brainiac over there.

• 18:17Speaker 01

  It is really exciting. When I hear it, when I hear other people say it, I'm like, God. Like, you know, we all suffer from imposter syndrome. I feel like all of us.

• 18:23Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 18:24Speaker 01

  We all do, because it's like, well, you know, I wouldn't have that if I wasn't on the show, and blah, blah, blah. And I wouldn't have that if this didn't happen. But like, you know, no, that's really fucking cool. Yeah.

• 18:34Alex Cooper?

  No, it is really cool, and I think it's also amazing that you've done two now.

• 18:38Speaker 01

  Well, I'm working on my third right now. Yeah.

• 18:43Alex Cooper?

  Wait, how long does it take you to write a book?

• 18:45Speaker 01

  A long time. I worked on the proposal, six months. Six months I worked, and it wasn't like that for my second book. And like, my first book actually came a lot quicker to me also. This third one, it's, it's harder, because like, I'm, I'm really trying to be, the way that I write, it's like, I have to be specific about, like, with one thesis, like, and then everything spitters from that. And I'm just like, struggling, I was struggling a little bit with what that was. So it took me a really long time just to do the proposal.

• 19:17Alex Cooper?

  Well, I was gonna say, like, I think there's so many people in Hollywood that have like, that one book, and they're like, peace out, I just wanted to say, I wrote a book. Clearly, you like, really like doing this.

• 19:25Speaker 01

  Oh, no, I love it. And that's why I started, like, for the first one, I was like, I want it to be a handbook, so that if I wanted to keep going, the theme could change. So it's always still like, a basic bitch handbook to something. It's just depending on what's going on in my life. It's such a good idea, and so I want to play a game. Okay.

• 20:01Alex Cooper?

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• 21:26Alex Cooper?

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• 22:08Alex Cooper?

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• 22:49Alex Cooper?

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• 23:52Alex Cooper?

  So the whole like basic bitch handbook, clearly first question is, can you help us all decipher? What is the difference or is there a difference between chugi and basic?

• 24:01Speaker 01

  Okay, well, personally, what I think, I think chugi is kind of cringe. It's like, you know, like cringe clothing or cringe, you know, things that I don't know. There's a cringe element to chugi. I personally think that anything that's basic, it's just like leaning in so hard to something that you really love and doing that unapologetically. It's like if you really love rom coms or if you really love murder docs and just like leaning in and it's like, oh God, you're so basic, but like, but it makes me happy. It brings me joy. It's like leaning into the things that like really bring you joy and not giving a fuck if it's like what's cool.

• 24:42Alex Cooper?

  Basic to me kind of is a timeless situation where like, basic also means that a lot of people though are doing it and it's just something that kind of is timeless.

• 24:51Speaker 01

  Yeah. And it's, and there's a reason those things are popular, like because they feel good or they make you happy or like, I don't know, they fucking spark joy. So like, I'm, I love being basic.

• 25:03Alex Cooper?

  Santa over here. You're like, I can say it. You can't say it, Alex. Okay. We're playing a game. You're going to tell me if it's basic or not.

• 25:13Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 25:13Alex Cooper?

  And also you can just give me your thoughts on the topic in itself. Okay. Number one, Aperol spritz.

• 25:18Speaker 01

  Are you fucking, that's the most basic?

• 25:20Alex Cooper?

  It was my favorite drink in the whole world. I crave it every day. That's the worst part of pregnancy. The worst part is that I can't have multiple Aperol spritzes all day, every day.

• 25:32Speaker 01

  Dude, okay. I make Beau make them. So I'm like, I'm going to have three sips and I literally swish it around my mouth for as long as I can.

• 25:39Alex Cooper?

  Spit it out?

• 25:40Speaker 01

  No, I swallow it. It's like my baby can handle a few sips of an Aperol spritz, but like I literally swish it and hold it in there. And I'm like, oh, that felt good. That feels good. That feels good.

• 25:50Alex Cooper?

  I love them so much and I think people consider them basic, but I think they're great. So that's great. Okay. Get ready with me videos.

• 25:57Speaker 01

  Oh my God. So I didn't know what this was and I'm a big Tik Tok fan.

• 26:02Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 26:02Speaker 01

  Okay. And all of a sudden I just kept seeing G R W M.

• 26:07Alex Cooper?

  M.

• 26:07Speaker 01

  Everywhere. And I was like, Grown woman. I literally was like, what the fuck is everybody writing grown woman? Like, what is this stuff? Because not all get ready with me videos look the same. They weren't all makeup. Some of them are like picking outfits. So like, there was no theme right away.

• 26:23Alex Cooper?

  And most of the time, it's a woman doing it.

• 26:24Speaker 01

  Yes. So like, I thought grown woman was the vibe and like, it took me like a few months to realize. I feel like that it was get ready with me. And this is the thing, I tried one. I put, I put one out like three weeks ago and

• 26:39Alex Cooper?

  How'd it do?

• 26:40Speaker 01

  On, I feel like the kids loved it. Although I will say, everyone was commenting being like, wow, 2016.

• 26:49Alex Cooper?

  No.

• 26:49Speaker 01

  And I'm like, oh, wait, I was trying to do a thing. You know, I was really trying to do a get ready with me. And everyone's like, this is so nostalgic. You do your makeup like it's 2016. But I'm like, that's because it works for me.

• 27:01Alex Cooper?

  Wait, who cares? At least you're not trying to like pretend you're in a generation you're not.

• 27:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, like, you know, putting the like foundation, like letting it drop on your face. And like, I, I can't, I can't, I can't fuck with that. Like, it kills me. Every get ready with me that I see that people are just dropping the liquid on their face. Like, it's so, it's so not appealing.

• 27:21Alex Cooper?

  Wait, how do you do it? I don't do it like

• 27:23Speaker 01

  Are you telling me you drop it on your face?

• 27:24Alex Cooper?

  No, no, I don't. I don't. I'm just interested. Like, how do you do it?

• 27:26Speaker 01

  Okay. Well, I take my foundation and I have a tin and I pour some out and then I

• 27:30Alex Cooper?

  In your hand?

• 27:31Speaker 01

  No, on a tin.

• 27:32Alex Cooper?

  Oh, tin.

• 27:32Speaker 01

  And then I use a brush or a sponge and like a normal fucking person and then do the damn thing.

• 27:39Alex Cooper?

  Do you think they're on to something that we don't know, though?

• 27:42Speaker 01

  No.

• 27:42Alex Cooper?

  I don't either.

• 27:43Speaker 01

  I think they're bored and I think that they're just coming up with new ways to do makeup. When like what works already is there. So like, I don't get it.

• 27:52Alex Cooper?

  The fact that you thought that it was grown woman?

• 27:57Speaker 01

  No, listen, Alex, I also got a lot of comments from people being like, I thought the same thing. So there are lots of millennial women out there who are thinking that it is grown woman.

• 28:06Alex Cooper?

  I get it. GRWM, grown woman.

• 28:09Speaker 01

  How would anyone just automatically know get ready with me?

• 28:11Alex Cooper?

  But what, what about GR makes you think grown?

• 28:15Speaker 01

  Good point.

• 28:17Alex Cooper?

  I, I like it. I think it's funnier. I think we should start leaning in and be like grown woman video coming right at you. Okay, Tom, Tom, basic, not basic.

• 28:27Speaker 01

  You know what? I'm gonna say, but I, I, I think it's basic, but like I, again, I love things that are basic, but like you can't get any more basic than like the, the representation of Vanderpump Rules in bar form.

• 28:39Alex Cooper?

  True. Do you go there?

• 28:40Speaker 01

  I don't really, because I'm asking for attention if I go there. Do you know what I mean? Like, I really love it and I'll go there if it's someone's birthday. So I'm going for someone's, you know what I mean? But if I go there, everyone's gonna take photos and, and I'm like,

• 28:54Alex Cooper?

  No.

• 28:55Speaker 01

  I'm not.

• 28:56Alex Cooper?

  I get it. I get it. Um, Ozempic.

• 28:59Speaker 01

  Oh my God. Tweet to like, I really want to try it when I give birth.

• 29:05Alex Cooper?

  You're like, I want to go on it now, but I am pregnant, so I'm gonna wait.

• 29:08Speaker 01

  No, the amount of times I've researched this, being like, I mean, I think it's safe and healthy. Like, I think it's good for you. It's like taking vitamins.

• 29:17Alex Cooper?

  Stassi. I, how do we put a disclaimer? Be like, nothing that was said in this podcast medically, please do not listen to this.

• 29:25Speaker 01

  But like, come on.

• 29:26Alex Cooper?

  It's basic.

• 29:27Speaker 01

  Anyone who hears about Ozempic has to fucking be curious. You are a liar if you tell me that you have not thought about it, thought about jumping on that train.

• 29:35Alex Cooper?

  I.

• 29:36Speaker 01

  I mean, not, you don't need it. I don't mean you.

• 29:38Alex Cooper?

  But like.

• 29:38Speaker 01

  You should think about it.

• 29:40Alex Cooper?

  I get what you're saying. I think it's, this is what I've started to realize and maybe it's just like with age. Like I remember one of my things on here was bone broth and I was thinking about the, all the debate with Gwyneth when everyone was like, you are like promoting bad eating that like for people that's not realistic and it whatever. And I'm like, why does everyone care?

• 29:58Speaker 01

  No, like.

• 29:59Alex Cooper?

  She didn't say to only eat bone broth for you. She was just being honest. Would you rather lie?

• 30:03Speaker 01

  She's just telling her story. She's literally just, she's trying to be transparent, which is what everybody is asking of people. Please be honest and transparent. So then you can't get mad about what you hear.

• 30:13Alex Cooper?

  Right.

• 30:13Speaker 01

  When someone is being transparent or honest. So have I Googled Ozempic and what it would be like? And am I thinking about it? Yes, I am. Because you were just talking about bone broth. My first pregnancy, I ate bone broth for dinner for six fucking months after I gave birth.

• 30:27Alex Cooper?

  And I kinda don't feel like doing that again.

• 30:29Speaker 01

  I love that for you.

• 30:30Alex Cooper?

  I'm like, I don't want to.

• 30:31Speaker 01

  I want a quickie. I want an Ozempic. I'm an Ozempic girl, not a bone broth girl anymore.

• 30:36Alex Cooper?

  We love that. I love the honesty. Cause that's what I, I got annoyed where I was like, I think people are really getting too triggered. Like Gwyneth wasn't like, everyone should do this. She was asked what she eats in a day. And instead of being like a cheeseburger for dinner and a day, she just told you, you don't have to do it.

• 30:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, you don't have to do it. Like, would you want her to lie to you and then you're gonna wonder like, wait, why don't I look like this? When I'm eating a cheeseburger for dinner and like, you, you wanna, I wanna know that it's a struggle for Gwyneth. I wanna know it's a struggle.

• 31:06Alex Cooper?

  Me too. And I also love, it's like, people need to realize, I know the whole world influencer has really taken over, but like, you look inward if you're being really heavily influenced by every single influencer on the internet.

• 31:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:19Alex Cooper?

  Let's, let's just do a little check.

• 31:21Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 31:22Alex Cooper?

  Just a little check in.

• 31:22Speaker 01

  You know, just be responsible for yourself. Be responsible for yourself.

• 31:26Alex Cooper?

  Okay, so Ozempic, Ozemby. Okay, so she's gonna go on Ozempic. You're gonna tell us how it goes.

• 31:32Speaker 01

  You'll go on it. Someone else doesn't have to.

• 31:34Alex Cooper?

  Exactly.

• 31:34Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 31:35Alex Cooper?

  And then you're gonna be, feel how you wanna feel and they can feel how they wanna feel. While they're on the elliptical, you're.

• 31:43Speaker 01

  They're gonna look at me now.

• 31:45Alex Cooper?

  Do you think you'll be promoting it that like you're on it or you won't talk about it?

• 31:48Speaker 01

  Um, I would like to, to think that I would be somebody that promotes it and talks about it. Because again, I really do, I love when other people are transparent and honest. So I wanna be that for other people. But like, God, people are really hard.

• 32:04Alex Cooper?

  People are really hard.

• 32:05Speaker 01

  On, on that, on things like that. And it's like, do I feel like going through all of the hate that I'm gonna get? Well, unfortunately. About it.

• 32:13Alex Cooper?

  Unfortunately, you're on Call or Daddy right now saying you're gonna do it. You know what would be the worst? If, if you actually don't go on Ozempic and you're like, hit the gym and they're like, that bitch is on Ozempic. You're like, no, guys, I'm actually.

• 32:23Speaker 01

  I totally probably just fucked myself.

• 32:26Alex Cooper?

  Right. No matter what, they're all, either they're like, it's not working or it's working and you could have been doing it like organically.

• 32:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:31Alex Cooper?

  Okay, well, keep us updated. What do you think about manifesting?

• 32:34Speaker 01

  I'm so basic.

• 32:36Alex Cooper?

  You manifest?

• 32:37Speaker 01

  I manifest the shit out of life. I think I've naturally been manifesting my whole life and just like not know. When we were growing up, manifesting wasn't a word.

• 32:45Alex Cooper?

  Right, right, right.

• 32:46Speaker 01

  That we like really.

• 32:47Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 32:47Speaker 01

  The way that we use it now.

• 32:48Alex Cooper?

  Totally.

• 32:49Speaker 01

  But I think that I've always just been that way and I really, I really do fucking ride so hard for manifesting because I feel like what works with manifesting is like you just envision that the things that you want are gonna happen.

• 33:02Alex Cooper?

  Right.

• 33:02Speaker 01

  And then you slowly start working towards those things, whether you realize it or not.

• 33:06Alex Cooper?

  True.

• 33:06Speaker 01

  And like, that is manifesting. It's like quite simple.

• 33:10Alex Cooper?

  That's true. Okay, give us an example. What's something like big you manifested and like boom, it happened?

• 33:14Speaker 01

  My whole entire life, I wanted um, to live in a Spanish style home in the hills.

• 33:19Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 33:19Speaker 01

  Okay. And I, when it got to the point where I was looking at, at houses, like it just so seamlessly happened and I realized that like, wow, I had been like, planning for this and working towards this. And I'd always just said it. And then I was like, I should have manifested bigger. I should have been like a ten million dollar house. Spanish style house in the Hollywood Hills. Like, why didn't I manifest a yard attached to that house? Like, fuck.

• 33:47Alex Cooper?

  I get what you're saying, but like, okay, so you had this vision and now it's come true.

• 33:51Speaker 01

  Yes, because you, then I like, I saved the money in order, like, I started like, or I would accept this job and put that money away to like, start.

• 33:58Alex Cooper?

  Right.

• 33:58Speaker 01

  Being like, this is gonna happen for me, so I need to prepare for it when it does.

• 34:02Alex Cooper?

  So kind of like back in the days, they would just say like, a dream you have.

• 34:09Alex Cooper?

  Now we have like a better word that's like, a little bit more like proactive.

• 34:13Speaker 01

  Basic as fuck.

• 34:17Alex Cooper?

  Okay, are you watching reality TV shows?

• 34:19Speaker 01

  Um, well, I just recently started watching Vanderpump Rules.

• 34:24Alex Cooper?

  Dude, were you not watching it?

• 34:26Speaker 01

  No.

• 34:26Alex Cooper?

  And then you had to catch up?

• 34:28Speaker 01

  And then once um, Scandal happened, I was like.

• 34:30Alex Cooper?

  I gotta catch up.

• 34:31Speaker 01

  I got, I didn't catch up, but like, I will, I'm. I've seen like the last three episodes. So like I've, I've been like, I should probably, I'm interested. I want to see.

• 34:40Alex Cooper?

  That whole drama, I can't imagine how annoying it was for you because like, how many people wanted to hear your take on it?

• 34:47Speaker 01

  No, you, you have no idea. In, in fact, like, it's interesting that you say that, that you can see that, that you can see that that would maybe be annoying. Like when it happened, like it's like one of those things I joke about this that like, you know, it's like when there's like a natural disaster or a world event. And like, you never forget where you were that day. And like, you could be at work or at school and then like you stop what you're doing and like you, you get with your coworkers and you find the nearest fucking TV. And then years later, you're like, I'll never forget who I was with and what we were doing. That's how I feel about fucking Sandoval. Like truly.

• 35:18Alex Cooper?

  I can't imagine. Like, what was your take?

• 35:21Speaker 01

  Well, at first I was just like, I, I don't think that this is real, but then I'm like, this is, I start texting the people that I, I know, obviously. And I was like, like, I mean, just like, I think everyone's the same as everyone's reaction. Like holy fuck. And then I, I was like, I feel like I'm thrown right back into something that I've been away from.

• 35:42Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 35:43Speaker 01

  For so long, but it's, it's like, is it my place to be a part of it or is it not my place? I don't know. And then I have all of these people just DMing me. I mean, I've never been DM'd more about anything than I was about like, I'm in it or commenting and attaching or tagging me in it being like, I'm going to need Stassi to weigh in. I'm going to need Stassi to weigh in. I'm like, but I don't know if it's my place anymore. And I've been out of this for so long that like, I think it would be kind of fucking weird if I'm like going on my Instagram, being like, this is my take on.

• 36:13Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 36:13Speaker 01

  And like, it was all, it was, it's been kind of like a mindfuck, which is weird to say, cause it's not even happening to me.

• 36:20Alex Cooper?

  I kind of agree. And I, that's what, when I, when I had Ariana on, I was like, it was actually so weird because the amount of people that were like, fuck, like we kind of wanted you to have Rikel on. And I was like, this is why I also hate the internet so much because whenever I have villains on the show, everyone's like canceled. When I don't have them on, then they're pissed. But when I have them on, they're pissed, whatever. But did you ever like Tom Sandoval?

• 36:39Speaker 01

  No, I mean, no, and he never liked me. And that's the thing, you know, I will say this, not being on this last season, it's like my, my talents were wasted. Because I could have, you know, this was when I could have really just like given it to him and been like, I've always knew.

• 36:57Alex Cooper?

  Right, right. There's gotta be something that everyone is seeing in him, but like, he, I feel like has always been a slimeball.

• 37:04Speaker 01

  Well, that's interesting that you say that, just because I felt like he was always so beloved. And so, and I would even, I would say to my producers, I'm like, when is he gonna get the edit that like, I've, I feel like the rest of us see? Like, why does he keep like, getting away with being just this dude who just wants to like, give people things and help people out, man? And like, all of that. I'm like, that's not what I'm seeing. I'm seeing somebody who's constantly like, blaming others for things and dredging things up from the past and like, and just deflecting constantly. Like, if like, the rest of us look bad, then he looks good. And, and I've always felt that way. And so, yeah, the fact, the fact that I'm not on it this season, it's like, fuck, you know?

• 37:44Alex Cooper?

  Yeah. Do you miss reality TV?

• 37:46Speaker 01

  I miss reality TV at, at times. Like, I loved filming. I love, like, that was, it was like, all my twenties were spent doing that. And, you know, I love the camaraderie of it, and I loved all my producers and the team and the cat, like, it's fun. It's really fun. But, you know, there's something about like, being out of it for so long. And, and I watched that like, the success of a show is like, directly tied to how badly the cast hurts each other. And that like, feels weird.

• 38:20Alex Cooper?

  I agree. It's like, I think that's something that we're struggling with now, is like, watching it because there is social media. I, I feel like people are having a harder time, like, actually choosing a villain. Because it's also weird of like, but then that person's life is actually ruined on social media. And people are getting canceled and people are getting death threats. Where like, back in the day, you kinda like, the never saw the people. And it was like, whoa, that was a great show. Where now, it's like, a little bit like, oh, people have to be really calculated to fuck shit up. And like, how, how far are people going to ruin each other's lives? And is it honest? Is it real? Like, I don't know.

• 38:58Speaker 01

  Yeah. It just, it's weird. It's dark. Like, when you really think about it. It's fucking dark.

• 39:03Alex Cooper?

  Right, like I feel like there's a, I think you have a good life now outside of it and it's almost better to be nostalgic for it than be still in it and like look what's happening right now.

• 39:12Speaker 01

  No, I, I think so too because I, I think, you know, obviously I get asked all the time, like, would you go back to reality TV? Would you go back to Vanderpump Rules, all that stuff? And I'm like, I don't, I, you know, there might come a time when I'm like, oh, this makes sense. This type of reality TV makes sense for me or, or whatever. And this is a reflection on what really my life is like.

• 39:31Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 39:31Speaker 01

  You know, it might be a little more boring than what you're used to seeing.

• 39:35Alex Cooper?

  Right, but it's at least a little bit more authentic where you're not having to like really create that character again.

• 39:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, but like, I don't think I'd want to put my family in a position to be in something where like, again, the success is tied to like how much you can hurt each other. And like, I just don't, I don't, it, it's not like a healthy place to be. Like it's not good on relationships. You can be in the strongest relationship and, and I mean, if you think about it, it's like Vanderpump Rules is like, who's betraying who? Who's cheating on who? Who's being shady? And like, sometimes they, you know, they, things are invented that like never even happened. And so to put that stress on a relationship and then if you have children on top of that, I'm just not sure that that's like the healthiest thing for me. But I do miss it.

• 40:18Alex Cooper?

  No.

• 40:18Speaker 01

  I do.

• 40:18Alex Cooper?

  I get it. Like, it's almost like reality TV to a certain age should be appropriate because you actually, your life is toxic and chaotic. Like, season one, it was like, you were so like, in the best way, unhinged and like sanctioned. But like, I was like that with my boyfriends when I was in my late, like, early twenties. Then I think when you get to a certain age, it's like, you're just fucking your life up.

• 40:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 40:40Alex Cooper?

  For camera.

• 40:41Speaker 01

  Yes, yeah.

• 40:58Alex Cooper?

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• 43:44Speaker 01

  Well, Katie's one of my best friends in the world. She's Hartford's godmother, and she was my maid of honor. And I'm still really close with Lala. And honestly, the producers, like I'm, I hang out with the producers more than most people. Like, they're some of my closest friends.

• 43:58Alex Cooper?

  Really?

• 43:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, so it's so weird to like, be hanging out with them. And we kinda don't talk about it that much.

• 44:04Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 44:04Speaker 01

  You know what I mean? Like, the show part of it. But now that, like, Scannamals happened, we talk about it a lot more, I guess.

• 44:10Alex Cooper?

  How do you feel about how much hate Tom is getting online?

• 44:15Speaker 01

  Um, I mean, obviously, I've been in a position where I've received so much hate before. And like, that's, I don't like where we're at, like, in society. We're like, that's how we punish people. It's like, it's like, it's like emotionally beheading people.

• 44:32Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 44:33Speaker 01

  You know what I mean? And it's, and who's to decide what the punishment should be? Like, who, who makes someone the authority on that? Like, what makes this person on their computer the authority on, on what they think is enough hate for him to receive?

• 44:50Alex Cooper?

  Right.

• 44:50Speaker 01

  I don't get down with that. Like, I really, I don't like it. Like, do I like Tom Sandoval? No. Do I think what, like, what he did is disgusting? And like, Fuck him, but like, I see now I feel like I'm even adding to it.

• 45:04Alex Cooper?

  No, but I feel like there's a level. There's a level of like, if you're being asked about it, you can talk about it. And I think everyone with their friends can talk about it. But I do think there's like a level of we're just as bad of like, people that are going out of their way to comment on his photos or something and be like, go fucking kill yourself. You're so disgusting. It's like.

• 45:23Speaker 01

  That it's like that, that, that no one like, let's, let's just like, not do that as like a group of people.

• 45:29Alex Cooper?

  Cause it's like, you probably didn't say that fully to like, even your dad when he cheated on your mom and you guys have a divorced family now. Like, there's so many people that have gone through sadly, something very similar, like cheating affairs like that. And it's awful, but like, we don't know these people. So yes, they've put their lives out there for us, but like, at what point is it like, talk shit to your friends in your group chat, but to actually make an effort to like, go wait outside of his house or to go make comments. It's like, let's.

• 45:55Speaker 01

  And it's some, yeah. And at some point, like, that is how people become incredibly depressed. And then suicidal. And it's like, how would we all react if we knew that that's how.

• 46:06Alex Cooper?

  It ended.

• 46:07Speaker 01

  One of, yes. How, what, it just, it's not right.

• 46:11Alex Cooper?

  You were obviously so different back in the day as we all are of like, in your early twenties versus where you're sitting now. On the show, you were probably one of my favorite characters because it was like, I was watching a scene this morning. I was trying to, I was like telling my friend, I was going to sit down with you. I'm like, no, you don't understand. Like, no one was more iconic than Stassi. Like, she would go into these like rage blackouts, basically that looked like it on screen where you were just like, I am the devil, motherfucker. And like, just the shit you said was like so gold. And I'm like, are you going to ever let your daughter watch the show?

• 46:43Speaker 01

  I can't hi- I can't hide it from her forever. Of like, so of course, I honestly just hope she learns from my mistakes. Like, I hope she sees it and cringes and is like, you were fucking awful. And like, I don't want to talk to you for two weeks. And I'm like, fair. And then she just literally goes, you know, that just swings her in the opposite direction. And she just wants to be this like lovely, kind child, but like.

• 47:05Alex Cooper?

  That's fair.

• 47:06Speaker 01

  You know.

• 47:06Alex Cooper?

  Okay. How would you describe yourself back then versus now to someone maybe that didn't watch the show? Didn't know you.

• 47:12Speaker 01

  Oh my God. I mean, oh my God. I think. So incredibly selfish. Like, I still have selfish tendencies. Like, 100%, that's always gonna be a personality trait.

• 47:23Alex Cooper?

  Love it.

• 47:24Speaker 01

  It is. But like, I really truly thought the world revolved around me. I thought that everything that I was going through mattered to everyone. I just felt like what I had to say was so important. I was also one of those people that's like, I just tell it like it is. You gotta just deal with it. And, and now that I'm older, like, I don't like that about myself. And I think that's such an overrated quality. Because all you're saying is like, you don't care about how your words affect other people. So like, sometimes like, it's good to just think before you fucking speak. You know, it's like called being polite and gracious.

• 47:59Alex Cooper?

  True.

• 47:59Speaker 01

  Like, I just like, and there are still people that like, you know, are in that reality TV world that are still like that, that are just like, well, I tell like it is. I'm honest. Like, if you can't handle the truth, then like, I'm not for you. And I'm like, but do you really wanna be that way?

• 48:12Alex Cooper?

  I get what you're saying about like, holding yourself back from maybe speaking about certain things. But again, the environment that you were in, like, that is what would make you a better person on reality TV.

• 48:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, no.

• 48:22Alex Cooper?

  So it's like, like, it's almost like you were rewarded when you would say crazy shit.

• 48:25Speaker 01

  I was.

• 48:26Alex Cooper?

  Now, it's like, when you're in private with friends, maybe we don't bring that into real life.

• 48:31Speaker 01

  Correct.

• 48:31Alex Cooper?

  But I get what you're saying of watching it back. You're like, why did I say? That's how I feel about when I look back at my, the earlier days of my show. I'm like, why did I say some of that stuff? But that's also life.

• 48:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, that's true.

• 48:40Alex Cooper?

  But we just happened to be like, recording our lives.

• 48:42Speaker 01

  Yes, and we were rewarded for it, just like you were rewarded for like, things that would come out of your mouth. It's like, that's, that's how we're paid.

• 48:47Alex Cooper?

  Tot- to be.

• 48:48Speaker 01

  Totally.

• 48:49Alex Cooper?

  To, to say crazy shit.

• 48:50Speaker 01

  Yes. What do you miss most about being in your twenties? Being selfish.

• 48:58Speaker 01

  Leaning into it. Like, and like, not knowing that it was wrong.

• 49:02Alex Cooper?

  Right, right.

• 49:03Speaker 01

  You know? Yeah, it's the delusion. It's like the not knowing any better and just really living for myself. But at the same time, it's like, I am such a happier person not living for myself.

• 49:15Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 49:15Speaker 01

  Like, as like, fun as it all was, to be reckless and selfish, like, I am so much more at peace and such a happier person.

• 49:24Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 49:25Speaker 01

  Now that I'm not like that.

• 49:27Alex Cooper?

  I get what you're saying. Like I was thinking about that as I wrote that question today. I was thinking like, okay. I oh, I am twenty eight, but I almost feel like I'm already thirty and I am like my earlier stages of my twenties. I feel like I thought I was having so much fun in the toxic relationships and going out and drinking, getting fucked up and blacking out and like jokingly waking up and having all my friends in the room and be like, I just ruined my life. And that's also like life. But there is some different level of peace you feel. Once you get over that hump where like I don't wake up with that anxiety of like, what did I say to that person? Like, was I like mean? Like, did I fuck up? Like, did I do something? I don't know. It's like calmer.

• 50:06Speaker 01

  I mean, there's like a reason that like, you know, elderly people are like, my idea of fun is like staying in in like watching like Downton Abbey. It's like be- because our preferences change as we age. And like, I agree with that. Staying in watching Downton Abbey is like the most fun you can have.

• 50:27Alex Cooper?

  Do you often hang out with elderly folks?

• 50:30Speaker 01

  I should, honestly. I should find myself a pack of elderly friends.

• 50:34Alex Cooper?

  I was gonna say like come over one night and there's like seven people that you just like went and picked up from the elderly home.

• 50:40Speaker 01

  I mean, I'm always down for granny vibes.

• 50:42Alex Cooper?

  I do love granny vibes too. Um, what do you love most about being in your thirties?

• 50:47Speaker 01

  In my thirties. Oh my gosh. I think that the I've learned that like the power of of saying no to things and and not caring about like well, if someone can be mad at me if I'm not going to what they just asked me to do, or if I say no to like a FaceTime or like I don't respond to a text message. Like I've prioritized, as much as like I, it's funny that I'm saying this because it sounds like I'm being selfish, but I've just prioritized my my happiness and well being and I I know how to do that and not worry about like, well, so and so gonna be mad at me. If I say no, like I'm allowed to say no. I'm allowed to say no.

• 51:26Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, you are. I love that too. Cause there's like, I get what you're saying. It sounds selfish, but there's a different level of maturity of like a freedom that you get instead of feeling like oh my God, but it has to be calculated. If I don't text them, it's because I'm like being mean. This is actually, I'm not being mean.

• 51:40Speaker 01

  Not be mean.

• 51:40Alex Cooper?

  I'm just, there's just things that I don't want to do.

• 51:42Speaker 01

  Oh yeah, I'm just kind of busy and I don't want to do that. Or like, I'd like to stay home with my daughter tonight. Like I, I just like, it's not for me. And honestly, I don't even owe an explanation.

• 51:51Alex Cooper?

  No.

• 51:51Speaker 01

  Like no is all I have to say.

• 51:54Alex Cooper?

  What's the difference between Stassi hammered in her twenties versus Saucy hammered in her thirties?

• 52:00Speaker 01

  Oh my god, I miss being hammered.

• 52:02Alex Cooper?

  How long, how much longer?

• 52:03Speaker 01

  Um, I'm due the beginning of September. That's a while. It's like three fucking months.

• 52:08Alex Cooper?

  You got this.

• 52:09Speaker 01

  Ew.

• 52:10Alex Cooper?

  You got this.

• 52:10Speaker 01

  Um, well, I would fully blackout in my twenties. Like, I wouldn't remember things and, and, and I, yeah, I wouldn't remember what I texted. I wouldn't remember what I said. It was super emotional. Now, because I have a, a kid, I'm not allowed.

• 52:28Alex Cooper?

  Right.

• 52:29Speaker 01

  I, I can't. It's unfortunate, but I can't let it get too far. So like, I honestly, I feel like I don't have that much of like a personality shift with I drink. Does that make me an alcoholic?

• 52:38Alex Cooper?

  Maybe, but.

• 52:41Speaker 01

  I feel like I'm kind of the same as I am right now.

• 52:43Alex Cooper?

  No, that's good. That's good. Okay, love that. It's just like you have, you're just having a little bit better time.

• 52:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, like I'm just having a better ti- that's what it is. I'm just having a better time in my thirties because like I'm not getting obliterated.

• 52:53Alex Cooper?

  Right, and you're not getting full blackout. That's fair. Um, speaking of being drunk, you talk a lot about dark passengering, and I think a lot of my fans may not have any idea, like, what does that mean? Like, can you explain what that means?

• 53:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, 100% I can.

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• 54:23Alex Cooper?

  You talk a lot about dark passagering and I think a lot of my fans may not have any idea like, what does that mean? Like, can you explain what that means?

• 54:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, 100% again. I mainly did this, I did this like all throughout Vanderpump Rules, but like it's became a thing when I started dating Bo, okay? So I would go absolutely psycho on him, like, I mean, breaking phones, texting him 73 times in a row, yelling, screaming, threatening things like violence, okay? When I wouldn't get my way. Normally it was because like I would want to leave a party early because like I, granny vibes. So like I'd want to go to bed at like 11 and he's so social and he would want to stay out later. And I've always had like a trigger when it came to that because like honestly, I feel validated now because of Scandival. It's like shady things in that group of friends always happen after hours.

• 55:14Speaker 01

  So I would start freaking out like what is, why does he want to be out with my friends and not coming home with me? And I would go just insane on him. I would, I would, it was like, that's why he would call it the dark passenger. It's like, I would literally see red, like anger is like the only motion that like overtakes me. I see red. I can't control it. I can't stop myself. Like that is what the dark passenger used to be. But again, now looking back, um, in light of like, you know, Scandival and all that, I was right to dark passenger.

• 55:48Alex Cooper?

  I was about to say, as you were describing that, I think it's totally understandable if your partner for like one night occasionally is like, oh my gosh, like no, I'm having so much fun with my friends. Like I want to stay out. If your partner, every single fucking time you guys go out is always lingering and you're going home alone, biggest red flag.

• 56:07Speaker 01

  You know what?

• 56:08Alex Cooper?

  Strange.

• 56:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's so true.

• 56:10Alex Cooper?

  Why, why would you want to stay and not come home with me?

• 56:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 56:13Alex Cooper?

  Like what?

• 56:14Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 56:15Alex Cooper?

  I can't imagine wanting to like, I, again, I get it. If like I'm having, all my friends are there and my fiance is like, I really want to go home exhausted. I'm like, fuck, but like I'm having so much fun with my girlfriends.

• 56:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 56:26Alex Cooper?

  Then I'm going to stay out occasionally, but like, I don't think I've ever been like, I desperately want to stay at this party. I'm not single. I'm not looking for dick. Like the dick I have is going home. Like, why don't I want to just go home with them?

• 56:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, thank you for validating me right now.

• 56:40Alex Cooper?

  But don't you think for like a lot, a lot of people listening to this probably are like, huh, like I have this a lot with my partner where like they stay out so many more nights than if I'm going home alone or like they're going out without me all the time. Like I guess to each his own. I personally wouldn't be down because I just wouldn't understand. Like, why would your partner always want to be out without you?

• 57:00Speaker 01

  No, I completely agree with that. And that was always my argument.

• 57:02Alex Cooper?

  You're like, so thank you.

• 57:03Speaker 01

  What is it? What is it that you want to be doing? Like, what is more fun than just like going to sleep with me right now?

• 57:09Alex Cooper?

  No, and I also get the trigger of like, if you have ever been cheated on or again, you saw shady shit.

• 57:14Speaker 01

  Like, you know, when Kristen and Jax, like season two or whenever, when like they, they did their thing, like that, that was always like after hours, after the party, after I had gone home. Like, so

• 57:26Alex Cooper?

  Nothing good happens.

• 57:26Speaker 01

  So nothing good happens after hours. So like, it makes me, it made me feel so weird when Bo would want to just stay out. And so that's, that's when we put a name to the dark passenger, but the dark passenger can really just like, it means like anytime you just literally see red and like anger is the only thing and, and you, you can't reason. There's no logic.

• 57:47Alex Cooper?

  Yep. I, I feel like you had a lot of that for like birthday parties.

• 57:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 57:51Alex Cooper?

  Let's talk about your birthday. Because I, I want to relate to you here and I can't, and I want to hear your explanation of like what your birthday means to you.

• 58:00Speaker 01

  Oh my God, I'm going to disappoint you so much right now.

• 58:02Alex Cooper?

  Why?

• 58:02Speaker 01

  Okay, so the first few years of Vanderpump Rules, like 100%, I was a birthday beast.

• 58:09Alex Cooper?

  Yep.

• 58:09Speaker 01

  Okay, I was so obsessed with my birthday. I have no idea where it came from. You know what? I blame the fact that I am a summer like baby. And so like, I never got to like really have birthday parties.

• 58:21Alex Cooper?

  Fair.

• 58:21Speaker 01

  Like where all the people could come. So like, I like made it a much bigger deal as an adult or something. But like after the first few seasons of Vanderpump Rules, I stopped caring.

• 58:32Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 58:32Speaker 01

  I like got it out of my system.

• 58:33Alex Cooper?

  That's great.

• 58:34Speaker 01

  Bravo would never let me stop caring. I was like, no, but like this is

• 58:38Alex Cooper?

  This is a bit.

• 58:39Speaker 01

  This is like your, this is your thing. Like you are, people relate to this. This is like your, you are the birthday queen and literally to this day. When people come up to me like fifty percent of the time, they're like, um, either saying the quote about the devil or like Pinot Grigio and the other fifty percent of the time. It's like, thank you for making me feel good about my birthday.

• 58:57Alex Cooper?

  Dude, I remember watching it and like to people that didn't watch those seasons, like the rage that took over you of like, it's my fucking birthday, sit down and like be present. And I was like, I loved watching it, but I don't relate to that. And so I was like, I wanted to hear today. I, I think it's great. You're over it. So for your birthday now, you don't really care.

• 59:15Speaker 01

  No, I don't really care. Um, I think I was just always just like channeling main character energy, you know? And like when you're, when you, when you're trying to have main character energy, you, you need to care about your birthday. Main characters care about their birthdays.

• 59:26Alex Cooper?

  It's a whole month. It's a whole thing.

• 59:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 59:29Alex Cooper?

  And I think like that actually for reality TV worked. I think on Instagram, it's annoying as fuck when it's like,

• 59:33Speaker 01

  Totally is like my birthday month.

• 59:36Alex Cooper?

  We gotta stop.

• 59:37Speaker 01

  Ten days for my birthday. I'm like, no one gives a fuck.

• 59:40Alex Cooper?

  It's not countdown.

• 59:41Speaker 01

  No one cares.

• 59:43Alex Cooper?

  No one care. Okay. We can, we relate on that now. Okay. Um, do you secretly miss a little bit of drama in your life now you don't, that you don't have reality TV?

• 59:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, sometimes. I know. I say this to Bo a lot. Actually, I'm like, you know what? We should get in a fight and I should dark passenger because it would just like make me feel so passionate. That would probably make me horny.

• 1:00:01Alex Cooper?

  I get what you're saying. Like a little, a little bit.

• 1:00:04Speaker 01

  A little friction. No, a little bit. I remember when we were in Vegas in December, actually when I conceived.

• 1:00:10Alex Cooper?

  No.

• 1:00:10Speaker 01

  We were walking past, um, the sign for absinthe. Have you ever been to that show?

• 1:00:14Alex Cooper?

  No.

• 1:00:15Speaker 01

  Oh, it's so good.

• 1:00:15Alex Cooper?

  Is it good?

• 1:00:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's really good. And I was like, oh my God, Bo, remember the last time we saw absinthe? Like I full blown dark passenger it on you. And I was like, we should do that. That'll help us make a baby.

• 1:00:24Alex Cooper?

  Stop.

• 1:00:25Speaker 01

  And he thinks I'm insane and he thinks that's so unwell. But like, I just think that that I, I think makeup sex is fun.

• 1:00:31Alex Cooper?

  I agree. I think men have like a little bit harder time, like playing the role of like, we're fighting, but like it's not really a thing. And they're like, I don't understand. Like if I am trouble, like stop.

• 1:00:41Speaker 01

  One hundred percent.

• 1:00:42Alex Cooper?

  And they get scared. Like I try to do it with my partner all the time. Like just light, little tinges here and there can be fun.

• 1:00:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:00:47Alex Cooper?

  Not all the time, but like a little, like, I'm like, we've been so good. Let's not be so good.

• 1:00:54Speaker 01

  Let's not be so good.

• 1:00:55Alex Cooper?

  Let's have to come back to being good.

• 1:00:56Speaker 01

  I want to miss you. I want to be like, I want to be scared that I'm gonna lose you, you know?

• 1:01:01Alex Cooper?

  Even though I know I'm not, like, let me just pretend.

• 1:01:04Speaker 01

  Let me just pretend.

• 1:01:05Alex Cooper?

  And like, play with it. I feel like guys can't get there.

• 1:01:07Speaker 01

  No, not.

• 1:01:08Alex Cooper?

  But I kinda, okay, did you ever at one point, like, bring your trust issues in your past into your relationship that like, it really affected you guys?

• 1:01:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:01:16Alex Cooper?

  Or past the dark passenger of like, staying out late? Was there anything else?

• 1:01:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, we know, we started going to therapy, like, really early on into our relationship because I had all of those freak out moments and I just didn't trust him and he didn't understand where it was coming from because he was, he had never given me a reason for me not to trust him and we had to, like, talk through it. And the more, like, we went to therapy, the more than, he was like, thank you so much for articulating this, for communicating this, because I understand, that must have been really hard to have, like, this happen to you, to have your friend do this to you, to have, you know, other times that I had been cheated on, like, I get it now. And like, then we were able to work together. But like, yeah, it really affected our relationship.

• 1:01:58Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, I love that you have openly talked about, like, couples therapy because I think there's such a stigma of like, what's wrong with your relationship? And it's like, why is everyone?

• 1:02:07Speaker 01

  You shouldn't have to be going this early. Like, why? Because that's when the relationships, like, it's make or break, honestly, and you're coming into the relationship with all your separate baggage. So might as well get it, like, worked out right away.

• 1:02:19Alex Cooper?

  I agree. Okay, your relationship, you've talked kind of about how, like, you have very different sex drives with Bo and everything. Give the girlies tips of like, how do you keep things intimate without at times being actually physically intimate? Like, what are you guys doing?

• 1:02:33Speaker 01

  Honestly, Alex, I need the fucking tips.

• 1:02:37Speaker 01

  I need the tips. I think, listen, I think that Bo and I are really good at, at quality time. Like, we, we talk to each other. Like, we, we, we spend time together. Like, we, we're really good at parenting together. Like, I know that doesn't sound romantic, but like, when you're aligned in, in how you view things like that, like, when you get into a relationship with someone, you get married to someone, or you decide to have a child with someone, you better really fucking like that person. Because- When you have a kid, y'all are in it. You're fucking in it 24/7 like and so there are going to be days that are kind of boring. And you better really just like being around that person while doing all of the monotonous mundane shit.

• 1:03:20Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, that's such a good point. Like I was thinking about you and like having watched some of your relationships. Very toxic in the past to then like Bo seems like the complete opposite of like. Stable, normal, romantic, loving, sweet. Like in the beginning, did that freak you out?

• 1:03:36Speaker 01

  It didn't freak me out, but I made it. What I did with him is like I made. A a choice like an I was aware of the fact that I was changing my habits. Like everyone that I've dated in the past, it was kind of all the same like. E- exciting and like passionate right from the beginning, like just feeling like, you know, that feeling, which like ends up being toxic. Honestly.

• 1:04:00Alex Cooper?

  100%.

• 1:04:01Speaker 01

  And so Bo was kind of ev- everything different. You know what I mean? He was different than anything that I had dated before and I went about it. Both of us did really slowly and we casually dated and we dated other people and we just really got to know each other.

• 1:04:16Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:16Speaker 01

  And I think that that's like what. Made this relationship so solid is that like. We trusted each other. There was like constant communication, constant like getting to know each other. But it didn't know nothing about him scared me because I knew that I was doing everything different.

• 1:04:32Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, I kind of also had, I mean, I think a lot of people do. You have those like toxic relationships. But I think at some point, people always write in asking like, when will I be ready to like not, how will I know when to not go for the toxic? You just kind of know, you know, when you're done.

• 1:04:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, you totally will.

• 1:04:49Alex Cooper?

  There's a feeling of like, I don't want to deal with it anymore.

• 1:04:51Speaker 01

  And I think that there's like something like really overrated about the like love at first sight thing. I still have friends that like, you know, are single and will ask me like, well, what should I do? I'm like, well. You write someone off if you don't feel that in love, feeling that excitement right away. But like, that's kind of overrated.

• 1:05:07Alex Cooper?

  It is.

• 1:05:08Speaker 01

  We don't know people right away. So, so how real is that feeling?

• 1:05:12Alex Cooper?

  Right. It's like, there's a difference between going on a first date and actually like vibing and being like, there's definitely something here.

• 1:05:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, obviously you have to have attraction and you have to vibe. Yes.

• 1:05:22Alex Cooper?

  The feeling of like the butterflies, but also like anxious and like he's not texting and like waiting and like playing the games and like being so calculated and like, well, like that shouldn't be happening. Cause that's like unhealthy.

• 1:05:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:05:35Alex Cooper?

  Like, that's not enjoyable.

• 1:05:36Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 1:05:37Alex Cooper?

  But I think when you are doing that for so long, you can get into this rhythm of then normal feels boring. And I think it's like, I got to a point where I'm like, actually toxic became so boring to me.

• 1:05:48Speaker 01

  I completely fucking agree. Toxic is boring.

• 1:05:51Alex Cooper?

  Is boring. Cause it's so transparent of like, and then we're gonna fight. And then he's not gonna text me and then I'm gonna not text him and then we're gonna get in a fight and then we're gonna have this crazy sex and then I'm gonna feel insecure and then like, and then it's just like this and you're never able to be like, I feel really happy today on this nice Wednesday.

• 1:06:07Speaker 01

  I know.

• 1:06:08Alex Cooper?

  You don't have that.

• 1:06:09Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:06:09Alex Cooper?

  And not just, I get it. I won't say to anyone in their early twenties or in their teens right now. Like you gotta go through it.

• 1:06:15Speaker 01

  You do have to go through it. And I'll say like, it is fun to go through it once or twice.

• 1:06:19Alex Cooper?

  Totally. But it would just be nice. Like if you can, if you start to feel like you're getting fed up with it, you have, you have to also change your ways.

• 1:06:26Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:06:26Alex Cooper?

  Like, that's just, okay. Um, how did you know Bo was the one?

• 1:06:32Speaker 01

  Because I could completely be myself, honestly. Like I felt like there was, I never had to watch what I said or what I did, or I never felt insecure in that way. Like, I felt like he loved everything about me and he, but not just loved it. He would like champion.

• 1:06:50Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:50Speaker 01

  Like, he was so into just like me being a basic bitch. That's like so not a dude thing to. To do to be like, yeah, you go with like your basic bitch self, you know, like

• 1:07:00Alex Cooper?

  I love it.

• 1:07:01Speaker 01

  Just like really accepting and a cheerleader. And I think that's what I realized. Like, I really want that for myself.

• 1:07:07Alex Cooper?

  Totally, totally. No, that's so cute. Like, obviously, I only get to watch your life like slightly through Instagram, but you guys look like so happy.

• 1:07:15Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 1:07:15Alex Cooper?

  And it's just like really cool to see like, again, I literally sitting down with you, the best, the best version of like a whole person I knew was from season one, two and three. And like watching those seasons, I love that part of you, but it's also cool to sit down with you and like get to know you as like a mom and a partner and like, just, I don't know. It's like you're, you seem great.

• 1:07:35Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 1:07:36Alex Cooper?

  You seem like you like got it together.

• 1:07:37Speaker 01

  I know. I feel like I got it together.

• 1:07:39Alex Cooper?

  Like, I think I do.

• 1:07:40Speaker 01

  I think so.

• 1:07:42Alex Cooper?

  Wait, so you're on tour.

• 1:07:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:07:45Alex Cooper?

  And Kate went to one of your shows and she was like, it is so crazy. Like she sells out everywhere. You are just like so personable and outgoing and everyone loves you and like all of your fans are amazing. And she was like, they're like the nicest girls in a room, just like loving life, being so happy to be there. Do you like touring?

• 1:08:02Speaker 01

  I love it. That was like the one thing when COVID happened that I was like, I, if I can do anything ever again, wow, I like, please let it be touring. Like, I really love it. I just love the whole process of it, not just like creatively putting together. It's like challenging. It's like fully challenging myself to do something that's so uncomfortable, like putting together like a set, like where it's like, I'm not a stand up comedian, but like I have to be for a second.

• 1:08:26Alex Cooper?

  Of course.

• 1:08:26Speaker 01

  I have to act a kind of and then write something for myself, then deliver it and hope that people find it interesting.

• 1:08:31Alex Cooper?

  Right.

• 1:08:32Speaker 01

  And then put together segments and, and, you know, just, I just love the creative process of it. And then I also like the whole traveling aspect of it, you know, like I love going to different places and seeing smaller towns and meeting people from different places and checking into hotels. I don't know. I, I just, I really, I love touring.

• 1:08:49Alex Cooper?

  I, I give you so much credit because I don't think people know how hard it is.

• 1:08:53Speaker 01

  It is fucking ridiculous how hard it is.

• 1:08:56Alex Cooper?

  How long is your show?

• 1:08:58Speaker 01

  Um, an hour and a half.

• 1:09:00Alex Cooper?

  To have Axe and yourself and everyone entertaining people for an hour and a half.

• 1:09:05Speaker 01

  No, it's like when you think about it, like I'll always like when I'm watching everyone leave the theater like I'm in my car and I'm like, all these people like spent their money to come here, like they got babysitters, they took Ubers, like they, they came here. So like if I didn't deliver, like that's, I'm letting them down. You know what I mean? It's not like they can just, they're at home flipping on a television show. It's like they went out of their way. Like, and I appreciate that so much that they put in that effort to come see me. So like I, the pressure is, is, is on, it's there.

• 1:09:35Alex Cooper?

  Do you get nervous to go on stage now or no?

• 1:09:38Speaker 01

  Um, there are, when I know people in the audience.

• 1:09:40Alex Cooper?

  And so how many cities do you do?

• 1:09:42Speaker 01

  I think we did, we're doing like 25, I think, but we're over halfway done. I think the hardest part now I've realized this is, and when I do this again, I'll plan it differently is I can't be gone like six days at a time. I miss Hartford too much. Like, so those last two shows, like I, I kind of just like end up not caring because I'm feeling down.

• 1:10:02Alex Cooper?

  Wanting to go to your dorm.

• 1:10:02Speaker 01

  I just want to go home and like be a mom. And so like, I've realized that I think that the next time around, I'll be like, okay, like three days.

• 1:10:10Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:10Speaker 01

  Then a week at home, like three days, then a week.

• 1:10:12Alex Cooper?

  Do you get exhausted by being pregnant and touring at all?

• 1:10:15Speaker 01

  No. Okay. Let me tell you something. This is going to sound extra alcoholic-y.

• 1:10:18Alex Cooper?

  Okay, it's okay.

• 1:10:19Speaker 01

  Because like I haven't sounded alcoholic-y enough this whole time. But I was way more low energy and tired. The first two tours that I did before COVID, because we would like drink and have fun. You know what I mean? Like we'd have like Bloody Marys on the plane and like drink rosé while we're getting ready and drink backstage and have Aperol spritzes on stage. And I just felt tired because of that. Now I think I have the most energy out of everyone that I'm traveling with because I'm sober.

• 1:10:47Alex Cooper?

  Wait, no, I actually so get that. Like you would just keep drinking. I would do the same thing.

• 1:10:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, you just keep going. So now I'm sober. So I feel like, I feel sharp. I feel just way more alert and with it and quicker. And yeah, sobriety really suits me. It's just not fun.

• 1:11:05Alex Cooper?

  You're like, I know it's for the best for me, but like the minute I have my child, I'm back on my shit.

• 1:11:10Speaker 01

  100%.

• 1:11:11Alex Cooper?

  I'm getting an Aperol spritz brought to my fucking room right after I deliver.

• 1:11:14Speaker 01

  Beau literally brought me, he made spicy margaritas in the hospital for me and he's gonna do that again.

• 1:11:20Alex Cooper?

  The fact that you said you swish around an Aperol spritz and just hold it there. I feel like that's what I'm gonna have to do if I ever get pregnant.

• 1:11:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, or like a really good red wine. Like I'll, I'll, I'll have a little bit of red wine every now and then. Like my doctor literally says it's fine to like have some few cents.

• 1:11:36Alex Cooper?

  Right, right. Everyone calm down.

• 1:11:38Speaker 01

  Half a glass, it's fine. Like I'll leave it in my mouth. Like literally it feels like for three and a half minutes. Cause you just, the taste, I miss the taste.

• 1:11:46Alex Cooper?

  I get it. What is like coming up in your life? So you're writing a book.

• 1:11:50Speaker 01

  Mm hmm.

• 1:11:51Alex Cooper?

  You're having a kid. I actually love how I didn't even have to ask you. You're writing a book, you're having a kid and you're on tour.

• 1:11:55Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:11:56Alex Cooper?

  You're kind of thriving.

• 1:11:56Speaker 01

  And I have two podcasts. So like.

• 1:11:58Alex Cooper?

  Dude, how do you do two podcasts?

• 1:12:00Speaker 01

  I mean, when you.

• 1:12:01Alex Cooper?

  And go on tour?

• 1:12:02Speaker 01

  The other one's with, with, with Beau. So like it's easy for us to just like make time to do it. So it feels, it doesn't feel like it's as much. Yeah.

• 1:12:10Alex Cooper?

  It's still a lot. Let's have you back home when you're hammers.

• 1:12:13Speaker 01

  But that would be so fun.

• 1:12:14Alex Cooper?

  Then we really can't air it.

• 1:12:16Speaker 01

  Toasty.

• 1:12:16Alex Cooper?

  That would be fun. To do one next time, we like actually get fucked up.

• 1:12:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:12:20Alex Cooper?

  And like see what comes out of our mouths.

• 1:12:21Speaker 01

  No, Alex, this was like one of my favorite podcasts I've ever done.

• 1:12:24Alex Cooper?

  Was it fun?

• 1:12:24Speaker 01

  This was so fun.

• 1:12:25Alex Cooper?

  I'm so happy you came because I had an idea. We would be vibing. We, I also feel like we never shut the fuck up. Do we have one breath of silence if we were like? I haven't even heard the room tone since we started, but I guess that's a good podcast, right?

• 1:12:39Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:12:39Alex Cooper?

  Or everyone's gonna be like, you guys are so fucking annoying.

• 1:12:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, you guys are annoying. You guys keep talking over each other. I don't think we were talking over each other.

• 1:12:43Alex Cooper?

  No, we were two professionals. Yeah. We like, right as you were finishing, I would pick up and it was like, yeah, I think we had a good time.

• 1:12:50Speaker 01

  No, this was, I'm not joking. This was one of my favorite podcasts I've ever done. Like I really just had a really great time.

• 1:12:55Alex Cooper?

  I had a great time and I felt like I really could just relax and we had like a normal, fun conversation that was just happened to be filmed for millions of people to watch.

• 1:13:02Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:13:03Alex Cooper?

  Woo, you were so fun. Thank you for coming on.

• 1:13:05Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 1:13:06Alex Cooper?

  Stacy, this is great. Oh my God.

• 1:13:23Alex Cooper?

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