A Crash and 2 Geneses Sedan Walk Into a Crew Show

Matt Farah's Porsche got hit; he and Zack Klapman review two Genesis sedans; Big Sur is on fire; and more! Patreon questions include: The watch addiction begins What's on your 2001 CD? Auto factories we've toured Rolex Yacht Master: cool or no? Inviting cars at $10k, $30k, and $50k Our tasteful mod formula Choosing routes on two wheels Are BMW i8s a bargain at $50k? Why cars warn you when they're cold Why 997.2 Turbos are SO expensive Our healthy gas station foods Thanks for the free car Recorded August 10, 2026 Tickets to our live show: https://improv.com/irvine/event/the+smoking+tire+live+feat.+smith+and+sniff+with+matt+farah%2C+zack+klapman%2C+richard+porter%2C+and+jonny+smith/14213624/ DeleteMe Get 20% off your DeleteMe plan when you go to https://www.joindeleteme.com/TIRE and use promo code TIRE at checkout. Factor Head to https://FACTORMEALS.com/tire50off and use code tire50off to get 50 percent off and 1 free breakfast item per box for 1 year, while supplies last until 10/31/2026. See website for more details. nstagram: https://www. Instagram.com/thesmokingtire https://www. Instagram.com/therealzackklapman Enter to WIN our AMAZING 2025 Porsche 911 Turbo S!! https://www.dreamgiveaway.com/tickets/porsche?promo=SMOKINGTIRE Promo Code Offer: Get 4X bonus tickets with any donation of $25 or more. With every donation you are helping benefit some wonderful veterans' and children's charities. Podcast Promo Code: SMOKINGTIRE

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• 0:00Matt Farah?

  Los Angeles, TST Live is coming to you and we are doing it huge because we're bringing along Richard Porter and Johnny Smith. Smith and Sniff is joining TST for a live collab podcast at the Irvine Improv, August 18th, 8pm. It's a big room, so a bunch of you guys can come. Parking's free and tickets start at just 40 bucks, you guys. Come on down, it's gonna be an amazing hang. TST with Smith and Sniff, live in Irvine, August 18th. Tickets at the link in bio while they last.

• 0:39Matt Farah?

  Alright folks, on this episode of the podcast, Zach and I have enjoyed a pair of Geneses. Geneses, as we establish is correct. Geneses for the week, the G80 and the G90, plus some bad news from the Farah stable of cars. But we're talking about it today, it's the Smoking Tire Podcast, let's go. Welcome to the podcast, where currently the date is August 10th and Big Sur is on fire slightly. That's not great. We'll circle back on that if there's updates by the end of the show and they will not matter for the rest of you.

• 1:18Matt Farah?

  Oh, it's been, it's been a week. I went up to see our friend Thaddeus. Friend Thaddeus Brown has started a dry ice blasting business. If you're in LA, this is a great way, if you're working on your car, to clean the grime that's maybe been on there for 20 or 30 or 50 years.

• 1:43Speaker 01

  Dude, he sent me before and after pictures, like the side by side. It's crazy. I thought-

• 1:50Matt Farah?

  He did like the left half of a 9/11-

• 1:52Speaker 01

  Great photo. I just, I thought everything on the right is like, oh, everything under there is painted black at the factory and just has some road dirt on it. I didn't realize that everything under that car should be bright aluminum and was covered in sludge.

• 2:05Matt Farah?

  From the factory, it would have Cosmoline on it, which looks like Flex Seal, basically.

• 2:13Speaker 01

  Oh yeah, that's like a grease stuff, right? They pack guns in it.

• 2:16Matt Farah?

  Kind of, yeah. It's greasy, but like if you just touch it with your hands, it shouldn't really come off, like once it's on the car. But it's a protectant, right? So the dry ice blasting does take off whatever Cosmoline is left in that car. So like, you could have it recoded with Cosmoline if you wanted, if you were, and if you were doing this and like, maybe continuing to drive your Porsche through salty winters, you might consider that. But like in California, I don't think it's a thing you would do. So he's gonna go do my Lambo, you know, now that the suspension is all together and before they put the engine

• 2:57Matt Farah?

  back in, you know, he went over and checked it out and like, it seems like it's not bad, but like there's room for improvement. So he's gonna go give it a blast. But he was also, is also trying to like, be like, I've got this machine, like what else can we do with it? So he's like, why don't you come by while we're doing this 9/11 and bring like your cast irons. Bring your old, bring your Les Crusades, bring your, and guess what I learned, Zach Laven? Doesn't work.

• 3:28Speaker 01

  Really?

• 3:29Matt Farah?

  It works on cars. What, you know-

• 3:34Speaker 01

  It worked on baking sheets, I think?

• 3:36Matt Farah?

  Nope. Tried that?

• 3:36Speaker 01

  Really?

• 3:37Matt Farah?

  No. The, the, the, and I'm not saying there is no circumstance in which it worked. Like we tried, I brought like four Dutch ovens, because I have the whole, I was smart. I registered, I, we, credit where it's due, my lovely wife Hannah, we registered for all the Les Crusade shit. So for our wedding was Les Crusade and toilet paper. And everyone fucking laughed at us when we put 32 racks of toilet paper on our wedding registry and then the pandemic happened and who's fucking laughing now, motherfucker?

• 4:11Speaker 01

  That's true.

• 4:12Matt Farah?

  I had a fucking weapons-grade hoard of shitting paper in my, in my house. They're like, they can't get to their rationing TP at Ralph's. I'm like, fucking $80 a roll, right here, let's go.

• 4:25Speaker 01

  That's how you bought your Ferrari?

• 4:27Matt Farah?

  Capitalism, baby. Where was I? How did I get on that?

• 4:33Speaker 01

  It does not clean cooking stuff.

• 4:36Matt Farah?

  So whatever happens with cooking shit, the high temperatures, the fact that like the stuff's being on there with like literal fire, in the case of the underside of my, you know, Dutch ovens, that is just too much stained for, for, for this ice, dry ice to deal with. Now maybe, we turned the thing all the way up, like it didn't do it. Now it did get a li, some of the staining out of the inside, you know, because a Les Crusade has like a white inside and over time it does get stained. Even the clean as you can

• 5:19Matt Farah?

  get it, it's gonna get stained if you're really using it. So we got everything, like almost all of the staining off of the inside, but the shit on the outside, the underside where the fire was for hours and hours-

• 5:32Speaker 01

  And it's more porous under there and it just like bakes in or maybe bonds more strongly.

• 5:37Matt Farah?

  That is how we think, that's why we think it didn't really do so much on the, the raw cast iron. It's like, if you look at those, the cast iron restorations on like Instagram or TikTok-

• 5:48Speaker 01

  I've done it.

• 5:49Matt Farah?

  Have you?

• 5:50Speaker 01

  Yeah. We, we had a cast iron that over years of me caring for it incorrectly-

• 5:54Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 5:55Speaker 01

  -got like, well, it was developing a bunch of weird stuff and then it rusted because I stopped using it.

• 6:02Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 6:03Speaker 01

  And I just followed the, you know, the Lodge website. Lodge makes cast irons, but they have a great website-

• 6:07Matt Farah?

  You did it with the oven?

• 6:08Speaker 01

  Yeah. I did the whole thing of like stripped, stripped everything off of it, scrubbed it, scrubbed all the rust off, and then followed like the oven baking procedure and it does completely restore it. It's amazing.

• 6:18Matt Farah?

  So have you seen, but there's guys on Instagram and TikTok that like will go to like estate sales and get a cast iron of total, you know, or like they'll find one in the woods, you know, at some campsite or something.

• 6:35Speaker 01

  It's the Larry Casilla of cast iron restoration.

• 6:37Matt Farah?

  And they, they have a system of like, it goes in like almost like an acid bath of some kind. And there's a, there's one where there's an electrical current that's put into, you know, a 55 gallon drum of this liquid and it's like, you know, hung from a thing like a body, like a wheel being dipped in chrome, you know, into this bath of whatever the fuck with electricity going into it from like a car battery.

• 7:03Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 7:04Matt Farah?

  I'm guessing the side, the byproduct is meth, but like, you know-

• 7:07Speaker 01

  I didn't do that. I didn't know that existed.

• 7:10Matt Farah?

  Yeah, no, that's like, so that's, it, so it didn't, it didn't really do that. So, yeah, the way, the oven, the, the high temperature like-

• 7:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, steel wool, high temp thing. What's crazy, and this makes sense that it didn't blast off that hard stuff, is, you know, the dry ice blasting will take off like old power steering fluid mixed with mud, mixed with sand, like the stuff that when you're under a car falls in your eyeballs.

• 7:33Matt Farah?

  Right.

• 7:34Speaker 01

  But doesn't damage rubber fittings.

• 7:36Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 7:37Speaker 01

  So it's pretty incredible that, you know, it's, it's abrasive enough to take off like soft, soft stuff that's really gunky.

• 7:44Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 7:45Speaker 01

  But if it won't, if it won't damage a rubber fitting, then it probably isn't gonna harm like baked on compounds that have been, you know, heat treated into your cast iron.

• 7:53Matt Farah?

  Yeah. And it's just, the temperatures are just so high and cycled so many times. I mean, the cast irons, I've, I'm talking, we're 25 years.

• 8:01Speaker 01

  It basically, it'll take off things that you could scrub off the underside of your car or your cast iron or whatever.

• 8:06Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 8:07Speaker 01

  But it does it in like one one hundredth the time that it would take you to clean it off.

• 8:12Matt Farah?

  And it doesn't use any liquid. So it doesn't, you can blast electrical components, there's no water.

• 8:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:19Matt Farah?

  Like you can blast a fuse box and it doesn't damage it. And also, as I learned-

• 8:22Speaker 01

  It's pretty rad.

• 8:23Matt Farah?

  Because I went up there and it was like, you know, 97 degrees in fucking North Hollywood. It was brutal. But like, it's a built-in cooling system while you're using it. So the person using it is just getting with like this lovely cold, cold breeze, just constantly. It's very pleasant, actually. But yeah, we learned it does not work so well for cooking stuff that's are cycled for like, you know, 500 degree temperatures. But on a car, yes. That photo of the side by side with the underside of the Porsche was pretty amazing. So we'll get some, we'll certainly get some side by sides with the underside of the Lamborghini. Now that we have shock absorbers back from wherever the

• 9:08Matt Farah?

  fuck, six shock absorbers.

• 9:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, that works. What's his business called? Does he have?

• 9:15Matt Farah?

  Huh?

• 9:16Speaker 01

  What's their, what's their business called?

• 9:17Matt Farah?

  I don't know. Thaddeus is Dry Ice.

• 9:20Speaker 01

  If you're in SoCal, hit up round, round, round one on Instagram.

• 9:22Matt Farah?

  Yeah, or, you know, if you, if you're actually interested, like I'll connect you over DMs or whatever, like get, get at us if you want. I just had a side thought, I wanted to write down before I forgot it, but-

• 9:36Speaker 01

  Oh, the, the dip thing you're talking about is called electrolysis.

• 9:39Matt Farah?

  Yes, thank you. So not, it's not meth. How interesting.

• 9:44Speaker 01

  No, and it's the wrong kind of acid for me. You just smoked things that were burning off of a cast iron pan.

• 9:50Matt Farah?

  They told me it was meth, but tasted like old bacon. Fucking, alright, so, couple things happened.

• 10:04Matt Farah?

  My Taycan got hit. So this is, this is, this, this stinks. It's not that bad. The bill's really high.

• 10:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 10:13Matt Farah?

  But if you look at a photo, it's not that bad. And what's really worse is I wasn't driving it. I, I allowed my friend to borrow it. And he was hit, uh, from behind, uh, sort of a rear end slash side swipe while he was driving it. And my friend, uh, is a very, is, is, is actually, you know, is, is a bit of a character, but he's a, he's a responsible human, actually. He has a good driving record. He's never been in a crash before. He is, uh, currently sober. Um, and, and, uh, he really, really feels terrible about the fact that he borrowed my Porsche

• 10:57Matt Farah?

  and was in an accident with it at all. And, um, the damage is not that extensive. Um, it's litter, it's, it's really, but, but it's, it's fucking expensive. Did I tell you how much it was yet?

• 11:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 11:14Matt Farah?

  Okay.

• 11:15Speaker 01

  But it's insane and it's not extensive, but the damage leapt around the car.

• 11:20Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it was really, really strange.

• 11:22Speaker 01

  It's really weird.

• 11:23Matt Farah?

  So he was hit, you know, uh, uh, rear end slash, oh, look, look at this. I have a, I have a car. Uh, rear end slash side swiped, uh, on the driver's side. So, so the rear bumper, uh, and the parking sensor, the very cool over fender on both the, the over fender is actually a three, is three pieces, I think.

• 11:50Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 11:51Matt Farah?

  But it was just the rear one. So not even the front two. And, and the wheel, which was completely, just completely destroyed. Um, and then, believe it or not, the air shock, not in the rear left where he was hit, in the front right, the air shock was destroyed, which is very, very odd.

• 12:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 12:19Matt Farah?

  Um, apparently maybe the force of him getting hit that pushed the shock and it somehow tore the airbag in his air suspension. That's what they said. And I was like, can you like double check that that's not a?

• 12:35Speaker 01

  It's a real JFK magic bullet situation. Like I was on, I was in the car when you called them and we both like, how? But it, I guess because it's, the car's gripped up and it just got hit and it was like a sudden shock to that shock system.

• 12:48Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 12:48Speaker 01

  On the front right, like the, the force went diagonally across the car and the wheel had grip and you were, the car, I think it was stationary and it just went and just tore it. It's crazy.

• 12:56Matt Farah?

  Which is a very weird thing to happen. And, and the phone call was actually the follow-up. They just, he just, you know, he just goes, here's the estimate for this. And, and I went, I read it and I go, can you call the guy again and the tech and make sure this is correct?

• 13:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:13Matt Farah?

  Cause it says front right.

• 13:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, we don't want to cut off the wrong leg.

• 13:16Matt Farah?

  It was clearly, it was clearly the hit on the left rear. And, uh, no, it's the front right. And the compressor. It's the shock and the compressor. Cause the, I guess when you tear the shock, the compressor goes kinda haywire and it burned out. So you got a, you got, and then you got a lot of labor, obviously. Um, and, uh, so it's, it's expensive. It, it's not like, it's like not bad, but it's expensive. In fact, the-

• 13:51Speaker 01

  The compressor is shockingly not that expensive. Online, I'm looking right now.

• 13:58Matt Farah?

  I'm being charged $2,400 for it, I think.

• 14:02Speaker 01

  I mean, we should check part numbers, but I'm, I'm gonna, I'm gonna show you these results, cause-

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• 16:40Speaker 01

  Uh, maybe if there's four, you know, all of these are like 212, 260.

• 16:46Matt Farah?

  Oh, I don't know about that.

• 16:47Speaker 01

  Uh.

• 16:48Matt Farah?

  We'll, we'll double check it. I, I, I'm pretty sure that's, I mean, I think there's a, whatever, I don't know. I don't think I'm being overcharged that much, but, um, but certainly we can, uh, double check the bill this afternoon. But it's like, it's fucking expensive, um, to fix it and it's very frustrating.

• 17:07Speaker 01

  Did they have to replace the whole left rear, like quarter fender thing?

• 17:13Matt Farah?

  No, it's just the bumper.

• 17:14Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 17:15Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it's just the bumper and the one little bit. The, it, seriously, when I, when he sent me the picture, like when he told me he got hit, I was like, god damn. And then he sent me the picture and I was like, oh, well, that's actually not, that's not that bad. Uh, and then, you know, when I was like, why is the car sitting on like maximum ride height? Like the lift mode, like the high lift mode? And he was like, it's actually only on that mode on one side. I just went, oh no. Cause like the left was up and the right was down.

• 17:52Speaker 01

  Right. Cause that front right collapsed. Okay. So it was leaned over.

• 17:57Matt Farah?

  Mm-hmm.

• 17:58Speaker 01

  So what's the, do you want to talk about the total estimate cost or?

• 18:01Matt Farah?

  Um, the estimate is $17,200. Yeah. Yeah. And that actually includes a 50% discount from HRE for the wheel. That's 50%.

• 18:18Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 18:19Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Turns out, it turns out that's like a $4,200 wheel.

• 18:23Speaker 01

  It's a complicated car, but like that's, that's so much money.

• 18:27Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it's a lot of money and it's probably, car's probably gonna be down for, it'll probably, the car will probably be down for like two more weeks, one of which we won't be here.

• 18:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:40Matt Farah?

  We won't be here and then, uh, it might take another like week or two to get the other wheel back. So we'll probably have to drive it on the stock wheels for a couple of weeks, but like, it's, it's very frustrating.

• 18:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:55Matt Farah?

  Uh, the, the person who hit him is not just outright admitting that she hit him. She's, she's, she's gumming up the works a little bit. Even though if you, if you imagine, you just saw a picture of a car with damage right, right here.

• 19:13Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 19:14Matt Farah?

  And another car, another car stopped here with similar damage.

• 19:20Speaker 01

  Oh, there's another car that she hit a second car.

• 19:22Matt Farah?

  No, no, she, her car.

• 19:23Speaker 01

  Oh, okay.

• 19:24Matt Farah?

  Her car, you know, damage to the front, to the front, right? This car damaged to here. They're, they're on the road, they're not in a park. Unless he fucking put that motherfucker in reverse and stomped on the gas.

• 19:35Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 19:36Matt Farah?

  It's pretty clear who hit who here.

• 19:38Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 19:38Matt Farah?

  Like, this is a pretty, to, to me, this is a pretty clear cut black and, and there is a police report that I certainly hope will back up.

• 19:48Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 19:48Matt Farah?

  You know, his version of, of events. And either way, you know, unfortunately, the, the, the, the real negative side effect, believe it or not, does not, I mean, insurance will fix the car. That's what insurance is for, you know, that sucks. But it, it, it, it means I can't do the, I don't have the purity of the used Taycan test. Because now when I go to sell it.

• 20:14Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 20:15Matt Farah?

  It's gonna have an accident on the record and.

• 20:18Speaker 01

  It throws off the depreciation.

• 20:19Matt Farah?

  It throws off.

• 20:20Speaker 01

  Or the math, yeah, that you're gonna do later.

• 20:22Matt Farah?

  Throws it off. I can't be like, well, it's a, it's a car that was taken care of by me. So you know, it was just always, well, it's like, but yeah, it was hit. So it just, it fucks up the science, which like, like, don't get me wrong, like, I really like the Taycan, like, it's a fucking fabulous automobile, but like, that was the thing.

• 20:42Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 20:42Matt Farah?

  You know, like, I, I could, I could have fucking leased a Mach-E rally or fucking what, you know, whatever, and this shit happens and you just go, well, see, this is not actually my problem.

• 20:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, it puts an asterisk on it. I mean, you'll see what you get when you eventually sell it, but, you know.

• 21:01Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I mean, when you see a picture of the before, you can, you look at it and you go, that's clearly not a horrible accident. Like, that's, you know, it's a fix, it's not a, it's not that big of a deal in the grand scheme of the car.

• 21:15Speaker 01

  Right.

• 21:15Matt Farah?

  And like, I'm not selling the car soon, but like, what a bummer. You know, like, the, the purity of the test is like soiled, because now it's like, not just depreciation, it's depreciation plus.

• 21:26Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 21:26Matt Farah?

  Has been an accident.

• 21:27Speaker 01

  Right.

• 21:28Matt Farah?

  So that's like a real bummer.

• 21:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was not a great, not a great day. You were both really bummed for obvious reasons.

• 21:35Matt Farah?

  I was napping when I got that call. I was woken from a nap by, I got hit in your car.

• 21:44Speaker 01

  At least you were rested. It depends on if the call came at the beginning of the nap.

• 21:48Matt Farah?

  And it was like on a, on like a Saturday night at like 6:00 PM, far as fuck away. So I couldn't even flatbed it just to the shop. I had to flatbed it to my shop first and deal with it and then fucking take the, get, take the wheels off, send that, send the wheel to HRE, put the other, you know, then flat, second flatbed, just, just a pain in the fucking dick.

• 22:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 22:14Matt Farah?

  You know?

• 22:15Speaker 01

  That's a lot of steps versus just like, take it to this place.

• 22:18Matt Farah?

  And like 90% of the time the car gets driven, like, it's by Hannah. And so now, she's like, ah, all right, I guess, you know?

• 22:25Speaker 01

  So she, yeah, so she's down a car.

• 22:27Matt Farah?

  She's down a car. Her other, her other choices are not air conditioned.

• 22:32Speaker 01

  Right, good point.

• 22:35Matt Farah?

  Oh.

• 22:36Speaker 01

  In August.

• 22:37Matt Farah?

  It's real hot.

• 22:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 22:39Matt Farah?

  And she doesn't.

• 22:40Speaker 01

  And the power can't even go fast enough to really blow air in the window.

• 22:43Matt Farah?

  No, you know what it has? The little spinny corner window.

• 22:46Speaker 01

  Those are helpful.

• 22:47Matt Farah?

  It has the little spinny. That, that's one thing where it's like, you know, God help you, and if you're in a, if you're in a crash and you've got that fucking things fun around, but outside of that.

• 22:55Speaker 01

  I never thought of that, just like.

• 22:57Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 22:57Speaker 01

  Ninja star.

• 22:58Matt Farah?

  Yeah, first collision, your bumper on theirs, second collision, that window in your eyeball.

• 23:04Speaker 01

  I wonder how often that happened, because they had those windows for a long time.

• 23:07Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 23:07Speaker 01

  And was it just, was it, is it less of an issue than we think it is? Or is it just something they didn't care about for a long time?

• 23:13Matt Farah?

  No, I don't think that that specific triangle window to the eyeball scenario had to happen. I think it was, you know, after Ralph Nader and unsafe at any speed, and they started focusing on dashboard safety, collapsible steering columns, not having steering columns that literally looked like warheads pointed directly at your chest.

• 23:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, the spiker, spiker is a steering column and steering wheel.

• 23:41Matt Farah?

  A variety of things to impale yourself on should you get into the smallest of accidents. Crazy.

• 23:48Speaker 01

  Metal dashboards, they do look cool, but.

• 23:50Matt Farah?

  I almost fucking, I almost, dude, again, the second time, the Cadillac.

• 23:55Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 23:56Matt Farah?

  I love this Cadillac so much, but I went to demonstrate to somebody how I almost injured myself the first time, and I almost injured myself on the same stabby thing, but in a different part of my body this time. Like, it went like almost, like the door sprung open and I, but it was, just had enough bounce to come back and it, I, I was like, I was like, it was like a fucking St. Gall movie where they go.

• 24:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, where like they find the pressure point with the thumb, you know, the Kung-Fu master.

• 24:26Matt Farah?

  Oh, my God.

• 24:28Speaker 01

  That Cadillac, that corner is so aggressive. The whole thing, it's like, uh, it's like the bramble, the evil bramble bush, you know, in a Disney movie that's like grabbing you and pulling you into the netherworld.

• 24:38Matt Farah?

  I love it so much, but fuck, it's just, you need, you're like.

• 24:44Speaker 01

  You have to be very agile and careful.

• 24:46Matt Farah?

  Yeah, you got eyes up.

• 24:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:48Matt Farah?

  And I'm just talking about getting in and out of it. Like, I'm not even talking about driving this thing. Drives beautifully, actually.

• 24:56Speaker 01

  He doesn't want you in there. It's, it's the car Christine or whatever.

• 24:58Matt Farah?

  You can get a fucking head, serious head injury just getting out of that, oh, oh, the, the, what is that, 200, maybe?

• 25:05Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 25:06Matt Farah?

  Maybe I read that shit wrong. Maybe it's not.

• 25:08Speaker 01

  I mean, shops also, they do need to make profit on parts.

• 25:11Matt Farah?

  No, no, but there, there, the suspension by itself was $10,000 to fix. There, there was, there was something with the word compressor on it that was over $2,000. I don't know if it's just that or whatever.

• 25:24Speaker 01

  Or maybe it needs four of them, maybe, or sorry, maybe each shock corner has its own compressor, I don't know.

• 25:28Matt Farah?

  Maybe, I don't know. I, I, it seemed plausible, I'll double check it, I, I cannot imagine I'm being overcharged 10X, and if I am, that's gonna be a problem for this particular vendor. We're gonna, we'll be discussing that on the next show, if that turns out to be the case. I suspect it is not, but, um, so that just sucks my ass, doesn't it? And, and everyone else's ass that wanted to see how much depreciation I would take on this car in a puro.

• 26:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, because now it's like you have to get creative with the math and go, well, it sold for this, but how much of that drop was due to this crash that's in Carfax?

• 26:08Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 26:08Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 26:09Matt Farah?

  Yeah, guess we just drive it into the ground.

• 26:11Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 26:12Matt Farah?

  I like it.

• 26:13Speaker 01

  It's really nice.

• 26:14Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I like it, I'm gonna, I wanna keep it as long as I can. The, uh, should we talk about the, the Genesee?

• 26:21Speaker 01

  Yes, we have.

• 26:22Matt Farah?

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• 27:07Matt Farah?

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• 27:50Matt Farah?

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• 28:58Speaker 01

  How many?

• 28:59Matt Farah?

  Do we have a linguist out there? Genesis? Genesee? Genesis? Genesis is.

• 29:07Matt Farah?

  I suspect it's Genesis.

• 29:10Speaker 01

  Genesis. Genesis.

• 29:12Matt Farah?

  Genesis?

• 29:13Speaker 01

  It says Genesis.

• 29:14Matt Farah?

  How do you spell that?

• 29:15Speaker 01

  G E N E S E S.

• 29:17Matt Farah?

  Yeah, Genesis. Oh, yeah, Genesis. Okay, yeah, sure.

• 29:20Speaker 01

  So basically, you just change the second to last letter, which is confusing.

• 29:24Matt Farah?

  That's okay. English is good. Um, okay, so we've, we've had, we've had the Lido Genesis. We had the G80, uh, which is there, I guess you'd call it a mid-size, mid-size sedan? Mid slash full-size sedan?

• 29:36Speaker 01

  I think so.

• 29:37Matt Farah?

  The size of a BMW 5 Series or a Mercedes E-Class.

• 29:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:41Matt Farah?

  And then we, I also had, did you ever go in it ever before or just made?

• 29:46Speaker 01

  No, I drove it the last two days.

• 29:48Matt Farah?

  No, no, the, the 90, the one I've got, the white one. You didn't drive it at all, did you?

• 29:53Speaker 01

  Maybe I didn't.

• 29:54Matt Farah?

  No, you drove the, the...

• 29:55Speaker 01

  Didn't we trade? They look so similar.

• 29:57Matt Farah?

  No, no, no. The 80 is the one with the red interior.

• 30:00Speaker 01

  Oh, okay.

• 30:00Matt Farah?

  That's the one that you drove up the mountain and have been driving.

• 30:04Speaker 01

  I thought we traded.

• 30:04Matt Farah?

  The 90 is the white one in that picture, which is the faux Bentley. And I mean that in a very complimentary way, right? This, this is the full-size, big-boy, rear-reclining massage seats. It's the, it's the Korean Flying Spur.

• 30:23Speaker 01

  Definitely is. It's like a foot, I think it's a foot longer than the 80.

• 30:27Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 30:27Speaker 01

  And the wheelbase is like eight inches longer.

• 30:29Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 30:30Speaker 01

  Uh, but funny enough, the trunk is smaller in the 90 than the 80.

• 30:32Matt Farah?

  Well, because, because of the... Yeah, because if you want a reclining rear seat, that takes up a bunch of space.

• 30:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 30:38Matt Farah?

  Um, so let's talk about the 80 first. We both drove, uh, the 80. Um, it looks sporty, right?

• 30:46Speaker 01

  It does.

• 30:47Matt Farah?

  Um, the, Zach will find a photo. It's, um, I think it's like super good-looking, actually. I think it's, I think it is a really, it's what you might call derivative styling, but, uh, very attractive. Um, I think the interior is really nice, uh, comfortable, stylish, uh, pretty accessible. Everything is sort of, everything's pretty straightforward. Other than like, I think if you're the owner, you need to really arrange that slidey menu of main options so that your fa- six favorites are right on the homepage.

• 31:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, 'cause it, it goes for quite a ways, right? There's a lot of volumes and sections there.

• 31:32Matt Farah?

  And there's like, stuff like, that I wanted to use a bunch, like, um, in, particularly in the G90, like the, the seat massagers, which was like three swipes deep in that thing. And I'd want to have that on the home screen, 'cause I'm hitting that motherfucker every time. So, we'll get back to the 90, but here's the 80. Um, I think it looks good. This is exactly the color we've got with a nice red interior. It's got the quilting. Um, it's not that sporty, actually.

• 32:04Speaker 01

  No, it's not.

• 32:05Matt Farah?

  That's the, that's the disappointment of it. The disappointment of it is, looks pretty sporty, but it kind of isn't.

• 32:12Speaker 01

  It's a great highway cruiser. It's a great around-town car. I mean, the, the seats are comfortable and supportive. Uh, it's really quiet inside. Shock tuning was like pretty good around town. And then once we got in the canyons, and like, it's not trying to be an M car. It's not saying that. Like, it has decent horsepower. I think it's 380, 400.

• 32:33Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 32:34Speaker 01

  It has that, and it has like, you know, some modes. It has a Sport Plus mode, which is funny, and is not great.

• 32:39Matt Farah?

  No. It only changes the, the throttle and shift mapping, not the shocks.

• 32:45Speaker 01

  And the steering weight, which gets way too heavy.

• 32:46Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 32:46Speaker 01

  But yeah, it doesn't change the suspension. Um, rear steer, right? Which is really good when you're parking, but is also kind of aggressive. Like, it, it reminded me of Ferrari's early rear steer, or, or as you said, the, the S-Class.

• 32:59Matt Farah?

  The current...

• 33:00Speaker 01

  Like, it's a little bit too much at any speed. It just does a little bit too much in the back.

• 33:05Matt Farah?

  Um, but if you're talking about a highway commuter, sort of an everyday car, where a baseline of decent steering, braking, and power is important, but you don't really care about manual gearbox control, you're not driving it up too many mountains at speed, you're just driving it in normal situations, and you want it to look and sort of feel sporty, but you don't really need it to be sporty, this is there. These are like, this is the modern version of what you would just call a luxury car.

• 33:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 33:42Matt Farah?

  It's not a sports car, but it's got that, you know, if it was an Audi, it would be an S-line, you know, the, that, the styling package. Those wheels are pretty aggressive.

• 33:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 33:52Matt Farah?

  You know, the front end says, "I'm a sports car." Um, and, and the interior is pretty sporty as well, but it just like, it doesn't quite finish the job with the, with the dynamics. You know, those are pretty good bolsters for a, for a car that can't pull many Gs.

• 34:12Speaker 01

  They were, you know, I was in the canyons, like, it helped me pretty well. Um, great-looking seat, really comfortable shape to it, and the materials felt really high-quality. And I like, like, especially compared to the BMW stuff, where there's just tons of screen, and they use a lot more cheap black plastic, and they've got all like, the, you know, the color, the LED colors like bouncing all over the place. This just seems like the return to the simplified luxury thing, like Jaguar used to do, Bentley does. It's just, it's, remember?

• 34:42Matt Farah?

  Now that you mention it, doesn't this have kind of a Jaguar, um, XF-ish interior vibe?

• 34:50Speaker 01

  Especially, I mean, the, the console with the pucks is very Jaguar.

• 34:53Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 34:54Speaker 01

  But I just think it's enough screen, but it's not too much. And then the hard controls are like nice and easy to use, feel pretty expensive. Um, the sound system was really good. Uh, I still get the pucks mixed up. And I know it's a journalist's problem, like, but I've now driven three Genesis's in like the last two months, and I, and the puck sizes are almost exactly the same.

• 35:15Matt Farah?

  Hannah complained about it too. Hannah goes, "They need to make the, the, the top puck, which is the scroll-y puck, not the shifter."

• 35:22Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 35:23Matt Farah?

  And one of them is the shifter.

• 35:24Speaker 01

  Right.

• 35:25Matt Farah?

  And the other one is the scroll-through-fangs puck. They need to make that one two-thirds the size it is, where you will not confuse it for being the shifter puck and vice versa.

• 35:34Speaker 01

  I agree.

• 35:35Matt Farah?

  In the G90, this is a solved issue. So, I'd forget which one came out first, or it's just that the G90's more expensive and has controls that are, look a little different. But this is a solved issue in the G90.

• 35:50Speaker 01

  Nice.

• 35:50Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Um, in, in general, I thought the G80 was a, as usual, like, when, the, the one that, the one that really, really, really is still blowing my mind with how nice it is, is the GV60 Electric. Because all of these cars, and I'll bump to G90 now, the G90 is basically, if you want, this, if you want like, so, when, when, when people buy of like a Flying Spur, right? The Flying Spur like, is like a 207 mile an hour car, right? It's like a, it's, it's a, it's a true 200 mile an hour car.

• 36:32Matt Farah?

  And most people are doing nothing of the sort with a Flying Spur. Most people are cruising around town. And, and this is sort of like how I talk about electric cars. Like, why would you buy the fucking 1,000 horsepower one when you're like puttering around town, and, you know, you really only need the, the 400 horsepower, not the 1,000 horsepower? This is that, but with a gas powertrain applied to the long-wheelbase luxury sedan formula. It doesn't try to do a Bentley impression, um, with the interior. It does a mild Bentley impression with the exterior. Uh, the seats are amazing, the massage seats are super bangers,

• 37:16Matt Farah?

  but it doesn't try to ape a Bentley's styling. It's just clean, uh, tasteful, but if you, uh, I think it looks better in white than in black. Black, it could, black, it could be anything.

• 37:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:28Matt Farah?

  Black, it hides it. I, I think it's good in some, I've seen a blue one that I thought looked really nice. My Uncle Phil, uh, I have an Uncle Phil, who is the, the husband of Aunt Liz, the famous publicist, Aunt Liz Rosenberg, which is where I got the Mercedes from, Uncle Phil and Aunt Liz. He da- this is his car. He has a G90, and he loves it. And he's got, they got plenty of money, he could buy anything. He absolutely loves his G90. Um, but the seats are really, really nice, the controls are really nice. So when I talked about there being a, the problem being solved, um, the shifter in the G90 is the big golf ball-type orb that feels completely different from the puck, okay?

• 38:13Matt Farah?

  And also, the puck is a bit redundant in this car, because in front of the puck, you've got these two lovely knurled scroll knobs. This may be my favorite radio control system in any modern car. They have the volume scroll knob right next to the tune scroll knob. So when I'm going through like serious channels or any, you just, brrr, just, it's so nice.

• 38:42Speaker 01

  And it doesn't do presets, it goes channels?

• 38:44Matt Farah?

  You can do, you can do either.

• 38:45Speaker 01

  Oh, cool. Okay.

• 38:46Matt Farah?

  You can, you can set it so like, so that you have, it goes through presets, or so, but, or that it goes through just all the channels, just right there with one scroll knob. It's something that's like, I'm amazed that nobody does. Um, it was very nice. The air suspension, the ride in this car is super beautiful, um, as one might expect. It has a very small amount of height adjustability. It's not like my Taycan, where it's got, you know, four inches of change. It's maybe like an inch and a half of change. Um... But it's got roughly that same MMI that you have in the other stuff. So it's really easy to use. It's not, uh, it's not too complex.

• 39:29Matt Farah?

  I would be nervous about throwing Uncle Phil or my, my parents even into like a brand new S-Class. I think they'd get lost.

• 39:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, definitely.

• 39:39Matt Farah?

  They're not, uh, the boomers won't get lost in this one. It's, it's pretty straightforward. As long as you get that home screen right. Cause then you're otherwise you're swiping through a bunch of, bunch of bullshit. You know what's weird about the Genesis, all of them? The, the, in the gauge cluster, at least the default gauge cluster, I think there's a couple of different options. But the main one, the speedometer, it, it goes up. But, but inside the speedometer, which this is all digital. The speedometer goes up and the, but the TAC is just a number inside the speedometer.

• 40:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 40:14Matt Farah?

  But it visually should be a, a, a needle with attached to this number. So it goes up, they go up differently from each other and it blows me every time.

• 40:24Speaker 01

  They also put the Speedo on the left side where I think TACs normally live, right? So when I was driving in the canyon, I was like, oh, those are my revs. You know, I'm driving in manual mode and then I realized it was the Speedo and below it was the math. You know, it was this times this RPM. And it's just very tiny and I get, it, it's not that sporty of a car. And I cycled through, um, the gauge cluster options, thinking, you know, there's going to be like the double gauge one. And it doesn't, it doesn't have that, at least not that I found it, it's just like track trip stuff, information like that. So it's definitely, the gauges are commuter car.

• 40:57Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 40:58Speaker 01

  Even if the seats and the power to a degree is a little bit more like commuter plus.

• 41:02Matt Farah?

  Yeah. And the engines are smooth, but they're not exciting. And you know, they're only, they're powerful enough. What does Car and Driver have zero to 60? Look, 5.1. Um, and what do they have? And yeah, a hundred bucks, it's a, it's a six-figure car. The one I tested was a hundred thousand dollars, a hundred and one or a hundred and two. And you know, look, that's somewhere between a third and a quarter of what you're spending on a Bentley. So you're getting way more than 25%. You're probably getting 60% of a Bentley for 25% of the price.

• 41:40Speaker 01

  And so, uh, you know, to compare to the Germans, uh, the BMW seven series starts at $99,000 for entry level. I mean, they look the way they look. We, we all know how we feel about that, but this was like a pretty loaded car for around where BMW starts.

• 41:54Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 41:55Speaker 01

  Um, and then they, you know, top out at like 170.

• 41:58Matt Farah?

  And this has, I mean, this has a lot, like this has rear massage seats, rear, you know, rear reclining seats. The full, um, I forget who does the stereo, but it's a, it's a great, great high-end, you know, stereo. The massage seats are superb in this. They're really like strong, they're really nice. It's generally a very, very nice thing. Other than other, you know, it's so funny. I was like, they should make a two-door GT version of this car. Like they should do it. They should Bentley, they should Bentley, they've made the spur.

• 42:34Speaker 01

  You know, it would look cool. Cause Hyundai's designer is Genesis too, like they're designing really nice looking stuff, but no one would buy it.

• 42:41Matt Farah?

  Make it electric.

• 42:42Speaker 01

  That'd be cool.

• 42:43Matt Farah?

  So there, here's the thing, the gen, they, they haven't, none of the Koreans, they've nailed a great seat. They've nailed a, a pretty straightforward interface. Once you get it set up, they've got a good ride. They have, they have done handling with the IONI, with some of these cars.

• 43:00Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 43:01Matt Farah?

  But the, the, the gas engines.

• 43:03Speaker 01

  Well, it's a 3.5 V6 turbo, right? And then if the, the top spec of the 90, and I think you can get an 80 is like turbocharged plus electric supercharged.

• 43:12Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 43:13Speaker 01

  For a little bit more power, all-wheel drive. But it, it is an older feeling engine.

• 43:17Matt Farah?

  It's just not, it's not that interesting. So, but whereas with the GV60, you have the mimicking of the Bentley thing, but you have electric propulsion. And because you don't have a front engine, you have the beautiful suspension geometry that comes from having infinite space up there. That gives you that amazing ride. So you have this little thing that has a ton of room in the front and all the shit you touch feels like a Bentley. It goes like a motherfucker. It handles properly and it has a gorgeous ride and it's like $75,000. And you're like, ah, this is fucking where it's. So if they took that and just made a coupe body version of this, I think it'd be a banger.

• 44:01Speaker 01

  It'd probably look really cool.

• 44:02Matt Farah?

  Didn't they have a recent concept that was like sick looking?

• 44:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, um, they're.

• 44:06Matt Farah?

  Google Genesis convertible concept. Right? Cause it was a convertible, I think, right? Or a coupe or coupe, was it a coupe or convertible?

• 44:15Speaker 01

  No, I think it was there.

• 44:16Matt Farah?

  Right?

• 44:16Speaker 01

  It was this thing.

• 44:19Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 44:21Speaker 01

  Where'd it go, where'd it go?

• 44:23Matt Farah?

  Genesis concept cars, that thing. Well, that's the, yeah, look at the wagon.

• 44:28Speaker 01

  The wagon looks amazing.

• 44:28Matt Farah?

  The wagon is so fire. Look at that fucking thing.

• 44:31Speaker 01

  So good looking front and like the back looks great. This color is amazing.

• 44:35Matt Farah?

  Except, I mean, imagine it looked like this and just drove like the one that we had though. Wouldn't we be disappointed?

• 44:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 44:40Matt Farah?

  If it looked like that?

• 44:41Speaker 01

  Yeah. Cause the, the engine is, the numbers are fine. 0.16 and 5, fine. And the power is fine, but it like, it, the red line's kind of low because it's a V6. You don't want it to be loud because it's going to sound terrible. So you gotta make it really quiet. It just, it lacked some like effervescence, you know, the revs were, were a little bit lazy.

• 45:02Matt Farah?

  But goddamn, does that look good. That thing.

• 45:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, the, the GT concept.

• 45:06Matt Farah?

  The magma GT concept.

• 45:07Speaker 01

  This was gorgeous.

• 45:09Matt Farah?

  That's, that's the race car.

• 45:10Speaker 01

  That's the race car.

• 45:10Matt Farah?

  Give me a street car.

• 45:11Speaker 01

  Real car, real car.

• 45:12Matt Farah?

  You will show me street car. There we go. It's very pretty.

• 45:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 45:17Matt Farah?

  It's got Koenigsegg vibes, a little bit of Lotus. Looks funsies, looks like a good time.

• 45:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, really. They're doing, uh, really good work design-wise, I think.

• 45:27Matt Farah?

  So anyway, um, luxury, these, these two are luxury cars. They're, they're, they're, they're okay in a corner if you have to go up a mountain for some reason. But the real enthusiasts, this is your daily.

• 45:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think that's been their meat and potatoes and it continues to be like when they, I'm not saying they're incapable of straying into sportier lands. Like you said, they know what to do, but they do a really good job of just comfy ride, nice controls, sound. Like all the things that you, most people really interact with and care about in cars, they do it well.

• 46:01Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 46:01Speaker 01

  And the styling, which some of their competition that tends to be more expensive and from Germany has like gone a little too far. And people are enthusiasts at least are pushing back on some of the designs.

• 46:12Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I think maybe not the electric supercharger, but also like if you don't really care about having a zillion horsepower for every day. Uh, there's something to be said for like a bit more normal engine as well, you know?

• 46:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, I like them.

• 46:28Matt Farah?

  Um, thank you to, to Genesis for letting us sample those wares. Have enjoyed them.

• 46:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 46:35Matt Farah?

  I think we get, uh, when we get back from Dream Cruise, I'm pretty sure we have the Rivian R2.

• 46:39Speaker 01

  Oh, cool.

• 46:40Matt Farah?

  Yeah, that should be cool.

• 46:41Speaker 01

  Very anticipated.

• 46:42Matt Farah?

  And then also like, I'm driving the Eccentrica, the Diablo Eccentrica. The, the Resto Ma Diablo, which we saw one at, um, HK.

• 46:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, we did.

• 46:53Matt Farah?

  It was a yellow one.

• 46:54Speaker 01

  We saw one at Quail originally, right? And then HK had one, which was a better color, I think. The one they launched with at Quail.

• 47:02Matt Farah?

  It was like silver.

• 47:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:03Matt Farah?

  Yeah, the one at HK was yellow.

• 47:07Matt Farah?

  I'm not, it, I'm not entirely sold on it.

• 47:13Matt Farah?

  I'm, I'm waiting to see. I, I really like how original Diablo's look.

• 47:22Matt Farah?

  I understand why somebody would want to, uh, to do this to one. I think there's probably a, a real business opportunity, particularly with the early cars that are, uh, undervalued and underappreciated.

• 47:39Matt Farah?

  And I, I really look forward to driving it. It's a, it's a very, it's, it's a very interesting opportunity that I was not going to say no to.

• 47:50Matt Farah?

  But I've driven a variety of good Diablos and bad Diablos and all over the place Diablos. And my experience has been if you want a good driving Diablo, just get one of the ones that Audi built.

• 48:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, I agree. I think, I think, I think this is the one that was at HK, right?

• 48:07Matt Farah?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 48:08Speaker 01

  I'm trying to find a picture.

• 48:09Matt Farah?

  Did I say yellow? It was green.

• 48:10Speaker 01

  Uh, you know, when I saw the one at Quail, the styling was like, I'm just not quite sure about it. Like the recessed lights thing versus the covered lights is, uh, I'm less enthused about, but you know, maybe it drives great. It's just, it's a Diablo that's been kind of like brought into modern era, I guess, a little bit, a little more geometrical, less smooth in some places.

• 48:34Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I mean, it, it looks like the kind of thing where they've, they've tried to modernize the exterior as well as the interior to make it more racy and more analog. And in sort of in, in the way that they like to style cars today. I don't hate that center console.

• 48:56Speaker 01

  Center console's really cool.

• 48:57Matt Farah?

  I like the center console with the knobs, um, but they're, and they've done some, some sort of Diablo GT-esque designs with it, but you know, sort of the same thing with the Evoluto 355, man, like this was a pretty dope shape. You know, like.

• 49:14Speaker 01

  And I think these guys, Eccentrica, went further than, um, the 355 did.

• 49:19Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 49:20Speaker 01

  That, that was really subtle. I think you kind of had to know, especially look at the exterior. Added a couple of like fins here, a little tiny wider there, but this is a lot more noticeable.

• 49:29Matt Farah?

  I think some companies have been a lot more successful with like, who's been the, to me, like the, the best at this so far. I mean, you really have Singer, but they're combining multiple things into one car. But even if you just choose one variant, the turbo, their current production turbo. Pretty, pretty awesome updating of that look.

• 49:52Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 49:52Matt Farah?

  Very, very respectful of the original design.

• 49:56Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 49:57Matt Farah?

  Like making that rubber, the rubber impact zone thing out of carbon fiber, but you have to get like eight inches from it to know.

• 50:05Speaker 01

  And also not getting rid of that.

• 50:07Matt Farah?

  Right.

• 50:07Speaker 01

  Thing because you know, some people might go, oh, I hate this rubber compacting version on the normal car. Let's just make it all body color.

• 50:14Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 50:14Speaker 01

  But they're like, no, no, like let's leave that detail because it is so distinct.

• 50:17Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 50:18Speaker 01

  But how do we make it cool?

• 50:19Matt Farah?

  So you've got that, I mean Chimera is there, they do it pretty well.

• 50:24Speaker 01

  That's pretty rad.

• 50:25Matt Farah?

  Chimeras are pretty, that's, you don't look at those and go, eh, I don't know. I mean, you, you pretty much everyone looks at a Chimera 037 and goes, yep, that's correct.

• 50:35Speaker 01

  And also the 037, the original one looked kind of crazy.

• 50:37Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 50:38Speaker 01

  Even if you put it, if you, if you brought it out today and said it was a 2026, it's such an exaggerated design anyway that you can.

• 50:45Matt Farah?

  The original Lancia 037?

• 50:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, like you can continue, I think, further.

• 50:48Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 50:48Speaker 01

  Just to pay like, like the 355, I thought was pretty, I don't know, perfectly shaped and smooth. So you can't go, you can't go as extroverted as this.

• 50:56Matt Farah?

  But you know who did it? That Alpha, the, the Totem, that was pretty successful.

• 51:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:02Matt Farah?

  They really, they really didn't fuck with the exterior shape in a negative way at all. They really accentuated the things that you liked, toned down a little bit, the things you didn't like, but didn't get rid of them entirely. So it didn't change the shape of the car.

• 51:19Speaker 01

  Right.

• 51:19Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 51:20Speaker 01

  You really, from profile, it actually, it looks very similar. It's only when you kind of look top down, you see the fender flares and obviously the, the taillights are different, but they didn't change how many of them there are or how like, are they more gregarious than they were in the old car? You know, they, I think they just stayed true to the metal and then update some of the details a little bit. This, like the back of this car, you know, I think it looks pretty different from a regular Diablo.

• 51:47Matt Farah?

  It really doesn't look like any Diablo at all.

• 51:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, there's a lot of it back here. That's, that's pretty different.

• 51:52Matt Farah?

  You know what this says to me is Ring Brothers. And I, and I mean, and I, and I mean it as like, I actually think the Ring Brothers would do a better job than this.

• 52:02Speaker 01

  Well, that Aston thing that they did was stunning looking.

• 52:07Matt Farah?

  No, like shout out to Mike and Jim Ring, like that, like they're, they have a very distinct style. And more times than not, I really like what they build. Every once in a while I don't, who gives a shit? They're not for me. They're customers. But, but that, there, but the Ring Brothers aren't building a series of cars. They're building a car for a customer and an audience at SEMA, you know, but, but they're not building a hundred cars that look like this and asking you to buy that.

• 52:37Speaker 01

  Right.

• 52:37Matt Farah?

  So like that Aston is fucking awesome.

• 52:40Speaker 01

  Yeah, like that, that shape.

• 52:41Matt Farah?

  Put that on the list of successful updates to a car. God damn, is that pretty?

• 52:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 52:48Matt Farah?

  Yeah. See, they, these fucking guys know exactly what they're doing. But this, but I don't think, like this is like if you took what they do to something else and apply it to a Diablo a little bit. Jim, they're going to take my fucking drive away before I even go if I talk shit about this. Well, hopefully they don't. I still want to drive it. I mean, it'd still be interesting, right? What could?

• 53:11Speaker 01

  I'm trying to find, like their Pantera, I remember was.

• 53:14Matt Farah?

  The Pantera, yeah, you gotta go pretty far back. That was back to like 2012 or something.

• 53:18Speaker 01

  A lot of stuff, but yeah. I don't, how many cars are they trying to sell, Eccentrica? Do you know?

• 53:24Matt Farah?

  You know, who knows? It's probably like 50 or something. Yeah. We'll find out when we go drive it.

• 53:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 53:30Matt Farah?

  Um, yeah, and then I'm going to Monterey, the, oh, there's the Pantera. Then I'm going to Monterey, like the, the week, the three days after car weekends for the Bentley Supersport launch for a day.

• 53:39Speaker 01

  Oh yeah, that'd be fun.

• 53:41Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 53:41Speaker 01

  Laguna Seca, I assume?

• 53:42Matt Farah?

  But, uh, yeah. Um, Dream Cruise is going to be awesome. Very excited.

• 53:49Matt Farah?

  I have procured Ford GT, so for, for cruising.

• 53:55Speaker 01

  For cruising?

• 53:56Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 53:56Speaker 01

  Which, which gen new?

• 53:58Matt Farah?

  No, 06.

• 53:59Speaker 01

  Oh, good.

• 54:00Matt Farah?

  From Ford's collection.

• 54:01Speaker 01

  Cool.

• 54:01Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 54:02Speaker 01

  Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

• 54:03Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Best, best supercar.

• 54:04Speaker 01

  They emailed, I'm probably both of us, like, here's a list of things you could drive in the cruise. And I was like, what of these do I want to idle in?

• 54:11Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 54:12Speaker 01

  You know, that's the hard thing. I'm like, I don't know.

• 54:14Matt Farah?

  Well, we can also, you know, we, we don't, we idle in them at, on Woodward, but you know, early in the morning, go out, go somewhere else.

• 54:23Speaker 01

  True.

• 54:23Matt Farah?

  And have a little funsies. I didn't, I don't know if he confirmed the V10 Mustang yet. That was what I really wanted was the prototype V, uh, the, the, the prototype engine. There were, I think, two or three Ford made, the V10 four cam engines. I got to try one in that Cobra Daisy that was down. We went down to Curated, went to Concorde's Club.

• 54:52Speaker 01

  Oh, they had.

• 54:53Matt Farah?

  That Ferrari thing.

• 54:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:55Matt Farah?

  And I got to take two or three.

• 54:57Speaker 01

  Shelby concept.

• 54:57Matt Farah?

  Slow, but, but fun laps in that, in that car.

• 55:01Speaker 01

  Right.

• 55:01Matt Farah?

  That had the engine. There's one on a stand somewhere and the other one is in this 2001 Mustang that doesn't look like anything. So I said that, I want that. And, um, they were working on it, but in the meantime, Ford GT, not that that's any kind of consolation prize, but I wanted to have one, the best American supercar of all time. And also something.

• 55:27Speaker 01

  There's your microfiber.

• 55:28Matt Farah?

  Also something deeply nerdy and stupid.

• 55:31Speaker 01

  Well, I think, uh, I'm not sure what Ford's policy is, but another OEM said that getting their concept cars out of their proving grounds can be difficult. So like the V10 Mustang, do they have plates on it? Or is this something that was only driven at proving grounds?

• 55:44Matt Farah?

  Some M plate on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It would, it's, it's, it's a, it's a running, driving car. I, I think.

• 55:49Speaker 01

  Cool.

• 55:49Matt Farah?

  Yeah. I don't know if there was any logistical hurdles or not, but that was the thing I said I wanted to drive that. Yeah, that's it.

• 55:56Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 55:57Matt Farah?

  It just looks like a Mustang. Boss 351 concept. 5.8 liter dual overhead cam V10. There it is, baby. You would not, you wouldn't look at me fucking for half a second.

• 56:12Speaker 01

  No, it's in boring silver. And it's got, it doesn't even have the, uh, the Cobra front fascia. It's got the little one.

• 56:18Matt Farah?

  Nothing.

• 56:19Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 56:20Matt Farah?

  That's, that's the shit right there.

• 56:22Speaker 01

  But then you open, look, I mean, this engine bay is great.

• 56:24Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 56:25Speaker 01

  Twin intakes.

• 56:27Matt Farah?

  See, that's, that's the thing I want.

• 56:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 56:30Matt Farah?

  Yes. So anyway, we'll see if it happens, but worst case, we will be cruising in a Ford GT.

• 56:37Speaker 01

  Love it.

• 56:38Matt Farah?

  Uh, should we go to the people?

• 56:40Speaker 01

  I think it's time. It's, we're about an hour.

• 56:42Matt Farah?

  Lastly, before we go to the people, thank you to everybody for buying our Blazers. Really appreciate that. The order books, I believe are closed on them. So, uh, thank you for, for supporting that. And I hope you enjoy them. Send us your photos if you're wearing, particularly if you're wearing one at Car Week.

• 56:56Speaker 01

  Definitely tag us in your photos.

• 56:57Matt Farah?

  Tag us in your photos. I want to see them on you.

• 57:01Matt Farah?

  I told, I did tell Roger the final number and he was like, actually, pretty good.

• 57:07Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 57:08Matt Farah?

  Pretty good.

• 57:09Speaker 01

  Wow, cool.

• 57:09Matt Farah?

  He said, I did not, he said, that's for a first effort at a thing, at a hard garment to sell. It's pretty good. So he was mildly impressed.

• 57:19Speaker 01

  Considering our marketing budget was pretty much zero.

• 57:22Matt Farah?

  He said, I said, I said, would you like one? He said, Matt, I'm never wearing a blazer again.

• 57:28Speaker 01

  I respect that, yeah.

• 57:31Matt Farah?

  Shout out to Big Rog.

• 57:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 57:33Matt Farah?

  And on August, I think it's August 22nd, the guardrail guy is coming. Have you seen the guardrail guy on Instagram?

• 57:43Speaker 01

  Is this the guy that talks about EVs that hit guardrails?

• 57:45Matt Farah?

  He's the guy who talks about unsafe guardrail design and he's insane. And he's like, he's on a mission and you know, the straight pipes guys are fucking obsessed with this dude. Steve Elmers, that's him, the guardrail guy on Instagram. I, dude, for like a year, for like a year, the straight pipes guys were like, you gotta have this guy out. You gotta this guy out. You gotta this guy. And so finally I DM'd him and was like, you wanna come to LA and do the show? And he was like, yup. So, alright. He is going, he is an advocate for, you know, one of those things that I love.

• 58:24Matt Farah?

  And people don't talk about. I love, my favorite thing in the world is improving road safety using fucking science that already exists. And like, we do not need to hand over the keys to our lives to autonomous vehicles to improve road safety.

• 58:41Speaker 01

  Right.

• 58:42Matt Farah?

  Tell a fucking honest tale if you're gonna do it. We could drastically improve road safety two dozen ways with paint and concrete and metal. And people just applying themselves. Like today, just today, wouldn't be hard at all, actually. So he's, this is a guy who goes around looking at fucked up, shoddy guardrail design and talking about how we can fix it.

• 59:06Speaker 01

  Cool. I like it.

• 59:08Matt Farah?

  And he reaches across political lines. He's not, he's not a fucking socialist. He's not, he's not, he's not even a super lefty like me. He's just-

• 59:19Speaker 01

  Well, this just comes down to engineering and science. So you can just look at, this design goes through the car. This design crumples. Well, you know, we've adjusted so many other things in terms of safety in the last hundred years.

• 59:31Matt Farah?

  Yeah. And actually, he's been calling out Flock recently, not for the horrible Orwellian surveillance state that they're enabling, but because they're doing a shit job mounting their camera posts into the ground. And they're mounting them in like a non-permitted, like unsafe way.

• 59:47Speaker 01

  Oh, and so it's, a car could potentially hit the camera.

• 59:50Matt Farah?

  If a car hits it, it causes, it causes even more damage to the car and potentially hurting the driver. You know, but yeah, it's so, it's, it's guardrails that are having to withstand, you know, heavier and heavier vehicles, but also generally shoddy repair and engineering that is under-engineered for its task. Kind of interesting stuff. I know the numbers, the numbers on it'll be terrible, but I can't wait to talk to this guy.

• 1:00:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, you know, every, once a quarter, we do one for us where we learn and 12 people also want to learn. Oh, baby hedgehog. But yeah, I think this is very interesting. Yep.

• 1:00:30Matt Farah?

  Well, let's go to the people. We love them over at patreon.com/the smoking tire podcast. That's, that's the crew. That's the gang. That's who keeps the ship floating down to the ocean. And once you join us over there at Patreon, you get to access the live stream of the show and then ask us questions that we can answer on the air. You get the show early, same day that it's recorded. You don't have to wait for Tuesday, Thursday. You get extra show. We do the extra show every month for the pro drivers and the champions. You can get a show, a show, not a single show, all the shows without ads at tier two?

• 1:01:08Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:01:08Matt Farah?

  Tier two.

• 1:01:09Speaker 01

  Show without ads, uh, yeah.

• 1:01:10Matt Farah?

  It's tier two.

• 1:01:10Speaker 01

  Sorry, it's tier two.

• 1:01:11Matt Farah?

  Tier two is the show, show without ads. And honestly, even, I have to say, at just that tier right there, which is what, like $6 or $8, $6, that ad free one? If you have $6 a month, that is, because people ask all the time, like, what is the best way to support? We will, giving us $6 a month is like so much more than we will make selling ads to you. And you don't have to listen to ads. That's, that's a, that's a literal good value for you. So that's like, that's a good value. It's the best way to help the boys, keep the show going. We got these suspension rebuilds.

• 1:01:56Speaker 01

  People are hitting your cars. I'm gonna get spine surgery. This is a funny, this is like a Make-A-Wish fundraiser.

• 1:02:05Speaker 01

  PBS telethon, yeah.

• 1:02:07Matt Farah?

  Telethon for my air suspension. I'm gonna need to hold up a sign, you know?

• 1:02:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:02:11Matt Farah?

  Alright, so let's see what these motherfuckers have to say. Oh, Robert Hall says, I just bought my first nice parentheses, but cheap watch, Seiko 5 GMT. What would you say is the next step up for this? Looking for my next watch. Okay.

• 1:02:27Matt Farah?

  This is an addictive place to dip your toe in the ocean. This is a $5 rock, first one's free. A Seiko, a Seiko 5, a Seiko dive watch is what I say that everyone should buy or some kind of equivalent, rather than those dumb fucking moon swatch things, which everyone I know who's like bought it, it's like broken already. And you can't fix those. You buy one of these things, a few hundred dollars, it'll last the rest of your life. Like, that's it. Could be the last watch you'll ever need. However, when you buy one, you will immediately start looking for more watches because that's what happens. Cause you're a fucking junkie. So like, here's the deal, dude. The next step up.

• 1:03:11Matt Farah?

  There's a bunch of directions to go here. This, these watches are like 500, right? The next step up is like 202500. There's not really any difference. And I say this as someone who sells a 1300.

• 1:03:27Speaker 01

  I was about to say.

• 1:03:28Matt Farah?

  In most cases, and I will say what, where the difference is, in most cases, there's not a lot of difference in quality of watch from 500 to 2000. Exceptions include microbrands. The vast majority of whom play in that zone. So if you wanna get into microbrands, we sell a microbrand. Although notice has moved, I think, out of microbrand to brand. Some do, some don't. But microbrands are brands that will use, that will make, they're smaller companies

• 1:04:05Matt Farah?

  and they will use off-the-shelf movements like from Seiko or from other places, Citizen or Swiss movements like We Buy from Le Joux Perret. And they'll design cases, they'll design bracelets, they'll design dials and bezels. And they'll have a nice looking watch that is, that is under their brand and is powered by a Seiko movement. And whereas the Seiko, you know, with the same movement is 500, maybe theirs is 800 or 900 and vaguely, you know, has their own style or resembles Rolex or whatever. That's that zone. So if you wanna go microbrand and get nerdy, which is great, you could support small business and support independent watchmaking.

• 1:04:47Matt Farah?

  You can do that. Beyond that, if you wanna go heritage brand, two grand, 2500 is really your next step, which is like entry level Breitling and Tissot and Longines, the new Longines Hydro Conquest is really nice. You know, stuff like that. Or used. Lots and lots of used stuff out there. I bought, I bought a bunch of great Swiss watches used for $2,500 and under. Good question, though. Welcome to the wrist heroin.

• 1:05:24Matt Farah?

  Panic, stop at the disc brakes. Your general recommendation last year for Mr. Cal's Big Truck Driver has been such a vibe lately. Another song recommendation from a different artist, please, that might have played right after on your burned CD in the Mountaineer. You know, I think Mr. Cal just got sentenced to a very long time in prison.

• 1:05:46Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:05:47Matt Farah?

  I don't, I, I have to say, as much as I enjoy the song Big Truck Driver by Mr. Cal, I do not endorse anything he did, starting with one day after leaving the studio where he performed Big Truck Driver.

• 1:06:01Speaker 01

  Yikes.

• 1:06:01Matt Farah?

  What'd he do?

• 1:06:02Speaker 01

  Uh, well, he just got sentenced to 20 years.

• 1:06:04Matt Farah?

  Ooh, Mr. Cal.

• 1:06:07Speaker 01

  Uh, pleading guilty to third degree from a 2002 assault at his Prairieville home.

• 1:06:12Matt Farah?

  Shit. Is it gonna stop me from listening to Big Truck Driver once in a while? Damn, that is a great song.

• 1:06:18Speaker 01

  I can't listen to Kanye anymore. I, I want to. I met, he had so many great songs.

• 1:06:23Matt Farah?

  That's true.

• 1:06:24Speaker 01

  But what a strange piece of shit he's become.

• 1:06:27Matt Farah?

  Yeah. I can't listen to Louis CK anymore.

• 1:06:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, me neither.

• 1:06:30Matt Farah?

  That, yeah. But damn, Big Truck Driver, it's one three-minute song. And no one ever said Mr. Cal was some kind of genius that needs to have clothing or anything. Big Truck Driver is a silly, silly song. It's like, it could have been, it could have easily been, here's what I need. I think Adam from Avance knows him pretty well. We need to get Sir Mix-a-lot to cover Big Truck Driver.

• 1:07:00Speaker 01

  Ah, then you can listen to the song again.

• 1:07:03Matt Farah?

  It's like Taylor's version.

• 1:07:04Speaker 01

  But will it be the same? You know, will it have the same snap though? I don't know.

• 1:07:08Matt Farah?

  We need to have Matt's version. We need to have a non-affiliated version of Big Truck Driver.

• 1:07:15Speaker 01

  I have to bleep so many words in this show.

• 1:07:16Matt Farah?

  Somebody get Sir Mix-a-lot on the phone. He's in the Seattle car community. We could get him.

• 1:07:25Matt Farah?

  He needs to cover Big Truck Driver.

• 1:07:28Speaker 01

  Well, what else was on your CD in the early 2000s? I like TI. TI Bring 'Em Out came out a few years after that, but that song is a banger all the time.

• 1:07:37Matt Farah?

  How about?

• 1:07:37Speaker 01

  Highly recommend.

• 1:07:38Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Bring 'em out.

• 1:07:41Matt Farah?

  Juvenile, back that ass up.

• 1:07:43Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 1:07:44Matt Farah?

  Have you seen the Juvenile Tiny Desk Concert? Where he performs that, by the way?

• 1:07:48Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:07:48Matt Farah?

  I'm, I'm, no bullshit dude, it's exceptional.

• 1:07:52Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 1:07:52Matt Farah?

  It's so.

• 1:07:53Speaker 01

  That's pretty cool.

• 1:07:54Matt Farah?

  Put, write it down, watch it at home later. I wish we could watch it right now together without it getting like, you know, swiped, but like.

• 1:08:03Speaker 01

  We can watch it later together at home.

• 1:08:04Matt Farah?

  It's, it's really, really amazing. The, the Juvenile Tiny Desk Concert, back that ass up is, is superb. Um, how about the Jay-Z, Linkin Park? Mashup album. The whole album, start to finish.

• 1:08:18Speaker 01

  Yup.

• 1:08:19Matt Farah?

  Best, uh, best canyon carving, not skip of track one of all time.

• 1:08:24Speaker 01

  I cheated, I looked up Wikipedia's, uh, top, Billboard Top 100 of 2001. Missy Elliott, Get Your Freak On? Missy Elliott, I love. She's amazing.

• 1:08:32Matt Farah?

  I love Missy Elliott, the idea of Missy Elliott and the general attitude of Missy Elliott, significantly more than I like Missy Elliott's actual music.

• 1:08:42Speaker 01

  No, I like her music a lot. Huge fan.

• 1:08:44Matt Farah?

  Alright.

• 1:08:45Speaker 01

  It's okay?

• 1:08:45Matt Farah?

  That's okay.

• 1:08:46Speaker 01

  We can.

• 1:08:46Matt Farah?

  I have a Missy Elliott doll in my living room.

• 1:08:50Speaker 01

  Interesting.

• 1:08:50Matt Farah?

  They sit on the chair. Tupac, Biggie and Missy Elliott dolls. They're great.

• 1:08:54Speaker 01

  Uh, Ludacris, Southern Hospitality came out that year also. That was.

• 1:08:57Matt Farah?

  Ludacris is, uh,

• 1:09:01Matt Farah?

  what's that, uh, what do you got in that case? I, I like that song. He likes, I like some old Ludacris.

• 1:09:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:09:06Matt Farah?

  Ludacris is alright.

• 1:09:07Speaker 01

  He's good.

• 1:09:08Matt Farah?

  Yeah. Before he had his, before he had his teeth fixed.

• 1:09:12Speaker 01

  Oh, he did?

• 1:09:13Matt Farah?

  Oh yeah, his whole face looked all, looked way different until he started, uh, acting.

• 1:09:19Speaker 01

  You got, he got veneers or something like that?

• 1:09:21Matt Farah?

  No, his whole fucking mouth is like a different shape now. Yeah. It's alright, good for him. Not the only one. That's what I'm talking about. If you were there, you were there.

• 1:09:29Speaker 01

  The fast and the fixed?

• 1:09:31Matt Farah?

  The fast, the fast of the, the veneer, veneer side RF7.

• 1:09:35Speaker 01

  The facial plastic? I don't know what the word.

• 1:09:37Matt Farah?

  Rage Against the Tire-Changing Machine. What auto plants have you gotten to tour and are there any you would like to see?

• 1:09:44Speaker 01

  I got to see Ferraris, at least part of it, and that was pretty, pretty cool. And it was a very modern system, obviously, with like conveyor belts that move things around and they could build a bunch of different cars on one line, which was rad. And I think they have their own aluminum, like smelter on, we couldn't see that, but they have one there where they're like, that's where we make our aluminum stuff, or most of it.

• 1:10:05Matt Farah?

  I've seen, uh, McLaren, Morgan, Ford Dearborn, or Ford River Rouge.

• 1:10:12Speaker 01

  We saw Corvette.

• 1:10:13Matt Farah?

  Corvette, Bowling Green.

• 1:10:16Speaker 01

  Singer.

• 1:10:17Matt Farah?

  Yes.

• 1:10:18Speaker 01

  Zinger.

• 1:10:18Matt Farah?

  Singer and Zinger.

• 1:10:20Speaker 01

  Which are neighbors.

• 1:10:21Matt Farah?

  Both sides of the same wall.

• 1:10:22Speaker 01

  Yup.

• 1:10:23Matt Farah?

  Uh, Koenigsegg, I've been to. Uh, I've been to Lamborghini.

• 1:10:29Matt Farah?

  I've not been to Ferrari, interestingly.

• 1:10:31Speaker 01

  I've seen where Hyundai makes hydrogen, but I have not seen where they make cars, which is funny.

• 1:10:37Matt Farah?

  Oh, so we went to, uh, I don't know if we actually went in the factory. Do we go, do we do a factory tour at, uh, in, in South Carolina at Spartanburg?

• 1:10:46Speaker 01

  No, we just did the, the BMW school stuff.

• 1:10:49Matt Farah?

  Um, I feel like that's, that's it. The, what?

• 1:10:53Speaker 01

  We saw where they used to make Packards, but that was just a building.

• 1:10:56Matt Farah?

  Yeah, right? If you find yourself in England, uh, in the middle of really not anything, Morgan is really an amazing thing to see. That's, that's worth your time. Koenigsegg was awesome as well. Um, oh, I was in Leipzig, Porsche Leipzig. Leipzig is where they build, um, Macan, Cayenne, Panamera on the same line.

• 1:11:19Speaker 01

  Oh, um, Lotus.

• 1:11:21Matt Farah?

  Stuttgart. Lotus, yeah. Lotus, yeah, yeah. That was cool.

• 1:11:25Speaker 01

  Also in the middle of nowhere in Britain.

• 1:11:26Matt Farah?

  Charming. It was, that was like a, a true medium-sized car factory.

• 1:11:31Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:11:31Matt Farah?

  Like, you don't, you don't, I don't really see that a lot. I usually see either handmade or like giant. This was like, kind of, not entry level, but like, the smallest big factory, or the biggest small factory.

• 1:11:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, they had some very professional, professional, like, high-tech areas, like where they check paint and there was a bunch of, you know, uh, Mercedes engines that had just come out of boxes with lots of wires hanging out, but then their cafe was small.

• 1:11:58Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it wasn't as automated as like, uh, the Corvette factory.

• 1:12:01Speaker 01

  No, not at all.

• 1:12:02Matt Farah?

  Uh, to Marion's Balbonner, uh, what do you think of the Rolex Yacht Master? Uh, assume you mean the Yacht Master 1. Uh, I like it. In some colors. The Yacht Masters come in all different color combinations, some of which to me, look weird, and some look a lot better than others. Uh, our pal Nat Monday, HK, wears a Yacht Master. I like the Rhodium Yacht Master very much. I think that's a beautiful dial combination. There's a new Yacht Master 2 that just came out that is actually the countdown chronograph that I've been asking for, for many, many years. It's $20,000.

• 1:12:42Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 1:12:42Matt Farah?

  I will not be getting it. And it's also 44 millimeters. It's a, it's a big boy. Big boy.

• 1:12:48Speaker 01

  Uh, which one made Kevin Leary cry? Which was?

• 1:12:51Matt Farah?

  What?

• 1:12:52Speaker 01

  Have you seen that stupid viral video? He's on a show talking about getting some Rolex that made him weep.

• 1:12:57Matt Farah?

  No, that's an AP.

• 1:12:58Speaker 01

  Oh, it is?

• 1:12:59Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it's an AP. That's when, that's when, yeah, that's when AP made him a piece unique.

• 1:13:04Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:13:05Matt Farah?

  I remember that clip. Some fucking fugazi AI person fucking made it, I saw it reposted recently and said it was about Rolex.

• 1:13:12Speaker 01

  Oh, that's exactly what happened.

• 1:13:14Matt Farah?

  No, it's about an AP. Yeah. I mean, it's equally loser shit.

• 1:13:19Speaker 01

  Oh yeah, definitely.

• 1:13:20Matt Farah?

  It's not about a Rolex, yeah.

• 1:13:23Matt Farah?

  Kamisa's Van Gena.

• 1:13:27Matt Farah?

  You mentioned.

• 1:13:27Speaker 01

  We're gonna get a letter from him about that.

• 1:13:29Matt Farah?

  You mentioned in a previous, no, I think, no, isn't that his camera vehicle? Doesn't he call it Van Gena?

• 1:13:35Speaker 01

  Does he?

• 1:13:35Matt Farah?

  I think he probably does.

• 1:13:36Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:13:37Matt Farah?

  You mentioned in a previous episode that the Mans is perhaps the most inviting, nicest and most disarming vehicle for the price point. Uh, can you think of vehicles that may have the same sort of charisma, uh, than, at even lower price points? Maybe 10K, 30K or 50K. You can get a Mans for all of those amounts.

• 1:13:57Speaker 01

  Very true.

• 1:13:58Matt Farah?

  Uh, our, our, our buddy, uh, Cooper Davis, uh, who, uh, runs a, a, a car show here called, in LA called Treasure State. He bought his Mans on Facebook Marketplace for $12,000 and I think he took it to a Volkswagen shop and had it like, gone through and made like decent to drive for another three or four. So maybe not 10,000, but like 15.

• 1:14:24Matt Farah?

  30 gets you a Mans off of Facebook Marketplace that's like turnkey ready to go. 50 is the, you could get a brand new Mans from, from them for 50.

• 1:14:36Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:14:36Matt Farah?

  Yeah, with a, it would, it would not, with a basic interior, a Volkswagen engine and, and a, a solid color paint job. I think it's like, I, I think it's like low 50s. If you, if you keep it, if you keep it pretty basic. I actually think you might be able to get one from them starting in the 40s if you get it pretty basic, but.

• 1:14:56Speaker 01

  Wow. I think 30 and 50 would also get you old Morgans.

• 1:15:00Matt Farah?

  Oh yes.

• 1:15:00Speaker 01

  Old MGs, Austin Healey's, like, you know, things that, uh, are British that don't run great, but people will, will smile when you're on the side of the road.

• 1:15:09Matt Farah?

  Yeah, you, I mean, if you have, if you drive a, an old Morgan three-wheeler, and I mean, the, not the Super 3, the one with the motorcycle engine, you, like, Alex Roy, our friend, is like, very like bon vivant. And he's like the right kind of person. Like, if you're gonna drive that, that, that'll do her right there, for sure. But you better be the person they hope you are when you get out of the car.

• 1:15:37Speaker 01

  Alex's character, he's more extroverted than that car is, and that's impressive. Yeah, very true.

• 1:15:42Matt Farah?

  Yeah, like, if, if a, if a regular, like a meager person gets out of something like that, it's very disappointing.

• 1:15:48Speaker 01

  Yeah. He gets out of, he gets out of the car and talks faster than that car is capable of going at full throttle. You need to be that.

• 1:15:56Matt Farah?

  But yeah, no, I mean, like, car, it's, it's cars that are, that are cute. Like dude, the Pow. That's, that's, that's one.

• 1:16:06Speaker 01

  Fiat Jolly? How much are those?

• 1:16:07Matt Farah?

  Fiat, a Fiat 500, a classic Fiat 500. Does, Jollies are expensive. Doesn't have to be a Jolly, but like, yeah.

• 1:16:13Speaker 01

  Classic 500.

• 1:16:14Matt Farah?

  Classic 500, a Volk, like a BMW Isetta, like anything that's not like a macho car and has like a bit of a pop of color, like something that's like, that's not macho and a little whimsical.

• 1:16:31Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:16:31Matt Farah?

  And you're, you're right in the zone.

• 1:16:32Speaker 01

  Everyone assumes that if you have a really fast supercar or a lifted truck, they assume something about you, either personality or physicality. Go the opposite way. That's where you wanna be. Did, uh, by the way.

• 1:16:44Matt Farah?

  That's where the good times are. That's like when I was in my early twenties and I used to wear fucking Greenwich, Connecticut, Ralph Lauren, when it was rugby, when the rugby store was the big thing and we were all wearing the rugby's, remember that? Uh, it's coming back for sure, by the way.

• 1:17:00Speaker 01

  My dad wore those in college, by the way.

• 1:17:01Matt Farah?

  Yeah, no, every twenty-five.

• 1:17:03Speaker 01

  Twenty-five years.

• 1:17:03Matt Farah?

  We're due, we're due in like two years. It's coming back. Um, that with a mohawk. Boom.

• 1:17:10Speaker 01

  The collision.

• 1:17:10Matt Farah?

  The fucking collision. They're like, I need to know more about you.

• 1:17:13Speaker 01

  Yeah. By the way, did, uh, did Camisa name his van before this one? Cause this is three years ago as a Vangina.

• 1:17:19Matt Farah?

  Wow, this is a Ford Transit that says, tag me on social, one month period supplies donated. Yep, this van is full of tampons.

• 1:17:28Speaker 01

  And the license plate is Vangina.

• 1:17:30Matt Farah?

  China.

• 1:17:30Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 1:17:31Matt Farah?

  Wow, I can't believe a, uh, a state actually gave them that plate. Good for them.

• 1:17:36Speaker 01

  Well, for, Isupportthegirls.org probably got to, uh, campaign for the DMV and go, hey, this is who we are. And then, all right, we'll allow it.

• 1:17:44Matt Farah?

  Uh, the toking tire, that's probably the best weed, weeded version of our show name that I've heard. Usually they, usually people who try and turn the name into something else do a truly terrible.

• 1:17:59Speaker 01

  This is very simple.

• 1:18:00Matt Farah?

  Right, one letter.

• 1:18:01Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 1:18:01Matt Farah?

  Two letters, excuse me. Best, most tasteful mods for a two thousand and eight Boxster SS manual. Um, thinking exhaust, short shifter kit and leave it there, but don't want to miss anything. Well.

• 1:18:14Speaker 01

  What's your budget?

• 1:18:15Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:15Speaker 01

  And what's, and what's your objective with the car? Like, what kind of driving do you do? You know? Do you need coilovers? Wheels make a car pop, you know, or do you only, if you only have? Well, exhausts aren't cheap. I mean, you know, if you just want to change those things, but you like the way it drives, you can go with what you chose.

• 1:18:29Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I mean, IMO, in my opinion, the best thing to do when modifying a car is accentuate the things it's already good at. So it's already good at, it's lightweight, it's engaging, it's, you know, uh, it's going to transition through corners well. So like, turn the wick up on that a little bit. So your exhaust and your short shifter, sure. Lightweight wheels, better tires, uh, make sure your brakes are really good. Um, and also two thousand and eight, like, refreshing that car to stock in terms of like shocks and bushings and stuff. Might make it feel like you've modified a bunch of things, but you actually haven't. Yeah.

• 1:19:14Matt Farah?

  Uh, double shuffle retirement clubs, uh, when riding a motorcycle or scooter, do you prioritize your commute for fun or for efficiency? Uh, for instance, turning on the avoid highway setting in Google Maps in hopes of twisty backroads. Well, for us, that's not an option. LA doesn't have that. LA has, uh, uh, LA has the grid and LA has the mountain. And so, you know, uh, you're usually, if you're commuting, you're just on the grid. So you're only optimizing for traffic. That's it.

• 1:19:46Speaker 01

  I think one exception would be, you know, folks that take, uh, what's the canyon that goes over to the valley from Hollywood?

• 1:19:52Matt Farah?

  Oh, like Laurel Canyon?

• 1:19:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. I have seen people riding motorcycles there, but that canyon's frightening to me. It's just tight, blind, there's driveways. I wouldn't want to ride a scooter over it. Uh, I'd rather take like a highway.

• 1:20:03Matt Farah?

  Yeah, I will say this, when I used to live in the true suburbs where, where the, where the term backroads actually existed, that's not, that's not a term that really happens in Los Angeles. In the, but in Greenwich, Connecticut and Westchester County, oh yeah. And I, uh, in my fun car, uh, or if I was on two wheels, I would, I would probably take the backroads. Yeah, I prefer the backroads, given the choice. We don't have a choice here. Here, but here, scooter is all about lane splitting. Uh, Uli Kunkel's Autobahn, starting to see middle mileage BMW i eights in the forty-five to fifty-five thousand dollar range. Uh, is this a move on an interesting car at this price point?

• 1:20:47Matt Farah?

  They don't do it for me.

• 1:20:50Speaker 01

  I see people like stunting around LA in them because they used to be expensive. They do look like they're still from the future, but I don't like them, I don't like them dynamically. I don't think they sound good. And I don't think, they're just not my aesthetic for a car. But they definitely have a presence because they still look like they're from twenty fifty. And I think if you pull in, people will still say, most people will say, what is that? Unless they're, you know, car enthusiasts. Um, is it a move? I don't know what the reliability is or the serviceability. I have no idea.

• 1:21:21Matt Farah?

  Yeah, they're much more interesting to look at than they are to drive. They're not all that interesting to drive. Um, having said that, if it's a, if it's a well-kept example and you like how it looks, they don't drive terrible. They just don't, they don't drive like supercars. They just drive like a regular car.

• 1:21:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:21:38Matt Farah?

  They just look like that, which is like, fine, if, if you're into it, it never really did anything for me. Um, but, you know, the fact that it does look like that and they never really made anything else that looked like it since. There's a floor, you know, they, they won't go to zero. So it's like, it's, I'm not, it's, it, it may not go back up with that powertrain, but it probably won't be zero either. Some, there will always be a buyer for that car. So interesting. Puro Sanguiche. The GR Corolla shows a warning on the dash to not use acceleration, uh, excessive acceleration from cold start until it gets up to temperature. Uh, do other performance cars have any, anything similar?

• 1:22:22Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:22:22Matt Farah?

  Yes.

• 1:22:23Speaker 01

  Like my, my car, the Tac, you know, is like sixty-two hundred, it's yellow and then those number, the lights turn off and then the red line basically goes up.

• 1:22:31Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:31Speaker 01

  But I've also, we also.

• 1:22:32Matt Farah?

  Corvettes too?

• 1:22:33Speaker 01

  We had a press car recently, I forgot, I just got in it and it did the same thing. It was like, don't accelerate aggressively.

• 1:22:38Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:38Speaker 01

  And then the light would turn off when it was time that you could do that. So.

• 1:22:41Matt Farah?

  I want to say the fucking Miata has a light that comes up that's just a cold. It's just a blue, blue cold light. I've seen the blue cold light before.

• 1:22:49Speaker 01

  All cars, you should follow this procedure with all cars. It's just some tell you and some don't.

• 1:22:54Matt Farah?

  Yeah. I think part of the, the reason the GR Corolla does is at least when it's a manual, it's not really capable of limiting boost in that, you know? If it's an automatic, the computer ultimately has control of the gear changes and that. In a manual, you pretty much can do whatever you want. There's not a lot the computer is going to stop you from doing. So, um, I think in a car that relies on boost as much as this thing does. It does, it probably is, is maybe more crucial than some other cars to not beat on it until it gets warm. But that's solid advice for any high performance car.

• 1:23:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:23:35Matt Farah?

  Um, twenty twenty-five Cayman GTS four point oh MT. Man, really? Thank you for telling me the entire specification of your car, although I know it's hard to come up with a username, but. Uh, as fun car prices have climbed, is the nine nine seven dot two turbo manual coupe a bargain at under two hundred K? Full win with no excuses other than being a fifteen-year-old car. Uh, it is a bargain and you should buy, buy it from Eric Vargas, my manager, who's about to sell his dot two manual.

• 1:24:08Speaker 01

  It is wild though, that this is a fifteen-year-old car and they, they make turbos, they can, they kept making them, they got faster and PDK got better, dah, dah, dah, dah. And it's like, is this a bargain at under, just under two hundred grand? Like the new cars a couple of years ago were just under two hundred.

• 1:24:25Matt Farah?

  Dot two, nine nine seven dot two manuals turbos are really rare.

• 1:24:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:24:32Matt Farah?

  Because when that came out, it was the Turbo S with PDK and it was like the quickest accelerating car of all time. The Turbo S also came with the ceramic brakes and like in that world, people just get the S.

• 1:24:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:24:48Matt Farah?

  I mean, the, they, they sold so many more S's. Um, when we were at Graham's, uh, for the Indy five hundred, he had a nine nine seven turbo manual cab. Um, that was not particularly interesting aside from being a, you know, and I knew how rare that would be. And it had a number on it, starting with a three. Yeah. I mean, they're just so, there's just so few of them.

• 1:25:11Speaker 01

  Is gorgeous. It's such a good looking car. Oh man. And that's, you know, the cars are smaller, which I do appreciate, but just the numbers are crazy these days.

• 1:25:19Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:25:20Speaker 01

  Oh, did you see the Ferrari four five eight that sold, allegedly sold for like one point three million? And the spec was quite a thing to behold.

• 1:25:30Matt Farah?

  Yeah, it's, uh.

• 1:25:31Speaker 01

  It's, I'm suspicious. And I'm saying allegedly dealership, don't sue me, but the price was over a million dollars and it was like white interior, four thousand miles, you know, strange.

• 1:25:43Matt Farah?

  I'm suspicious. Um, uh, Elon, Elon Alexander Hamilton. I travel for work nine to ten hours a day and have a bad habit of grabbing gas station pizza slices and calling it lunch.

• 1:25:58Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:25:59Matt Farah?

  What's your go-to semi-healthy on the road lunch? Extremely difficult, extremely difficult.

• 1:26:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:26:06Matt Farah?

  Best case is probably a local Mexican spot and grabbing a couple of tacos.

• 1:26:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:26:13Matt Farah?

  Or a chicken burrito is going to be a lot better than gas station, anything.

• 1:26:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, gas station, like, hot food from a gas station, I just, I won't eat it. And then I think the healthiest thing that you can get is like mixed nuts, a banana and water.

• 1:26:30Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:26:31Speaker 01

  And that's, and I eat a lot of protein bars, but they're made of science and who knows what. And like, those are, you know, sugar alcohols aren't good for you. They've been linked to like dementia, so I'm starting to pull away from those things, but like.

• 1:26:41Matt Farah?

  Non-commercial beef jerky?

• 1:26:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, that, that can be pretty good. Beef is, beef jerky is so expensive now because the price of beef has like tripled, but.

• 1:26:49Matt Farah?

  I haven't bought it recently.

• 1:26:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, just try to have the fewest ingredients in there and just get healthy fats, protein and fiber. Like, that's, that's what you should get. Popcorn is actually a pretty good choice in terms of fiber.

• 1:27:00Matt Farah?

  And actually like, if, if, I know it's shitty, but like the, you know, the answer to this, the answer to this is pack your own food and bring it with you.

• 1:27:08Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 1:27:08Matt Farah?

  I mean, that's, dude, if you really want to eat healthy, living like that, you're not going to be able to do it. I mean, and not, not, you're not, you're, if you can do it, depending on where in the country, it's going to be expensive. And like, you know, making yourself like meal prepping is, that's going to be what does it.

• 1:27:25Speaker 01

  It is.

• 1:27:27Matt Farah?

  Real education through working on shitboxes. Uh, what would you do for your family that gifted you the Merc if, when you go to sell it? It was a gift, but obviously you're putting your own money into it and I'm in a similar-ish situation. Uh, the reason he's asking is he was gifted a car by my family as a non-running project. I've put a ton into it to get it to be a pretty great example. Any ideas for gifts or things that you would do as a token of appreciation? I, I think you're, you're incredibly thoughtful. Uncle Phil and Aunt Liz were like, take this thing.

• 1:28:04Speaker 01

  Get this out of here.

• 1:28:05Matt Farah?

  Get this out of here. And, uh, you know, I just, all I had to do was have a truck appear at their house and take it. Um, having said that, would, would I do, uh, if I was in your shoes? Well, uh, I'd personally not, it might sell for seven or eight K and I made it for more than ten. Okay, you're not talking about a huge amount of money. It's not, it's not like they gave you a, you know, a shell of a nine eleven and it's actually worth five hundred thousand dollars. Okay? Um, do you owe them anything? Not really. With that, with the, this amount of money, I wouldn't give them cash. I, I'd take them to a nice dinner, buy a nice bottle of wine.

• 1:28:46Speaker 01

  Especially because if what they're saying is true, you are actually losing money on this. You spent more than ten, if you sell it for eight, you're still down two to whatever.

• 1:28:54Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:55Speaker 01

  So, and I would make sure they know that because if they hear you sold it for eight grand, depending on your relationship with them, they might go, oh, that worked out pretty good. And you go, hold on a second.

• 1:29:04Matt Farah?

  Yeah.

• 1:29:04Speaker 01

  But doing something nice for them because you got to enjoy this project and sell it for something to recoup your costs, I guess. That'd be cool.

• 1:29:11Matt Farah?

  Yeah. All right, that's our show, folks. Thank you to our patrons. If we didn't get to your question, we'll hang on to it for the next show. Don't worry, we care about you. Your questions matter. Um, you're going to be hearing this, I guess it's a lag. When, when does this go up? Is that Tuesday?

• 1:29:28Speaker 01

  This will go next Tuesday.

• 1:29:29Matt Farah?

  Next Tuesday. All right. So we'll, we'll have hopefully survived the dream cruise and we will recap it for you next time. Uh, actually we've got the live show from the dream cruise.

• 1:29:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:29:39Matt Farah?

  So you'll hear that. Um, thanks you to our patrons for asking such good questions and supporting the show.