Steve Harvey, generational icon of comedy and TV, shares his journey from homelessness to fame, fatherhood, and legacy—opens up about hard road to success, his biggest regret, Family Feud legacy, what moves him to tears, and responds to Katt Williams.

"Heavy is the head that wears the crown, but you don't get to take the crown off." Steve Harvey Pivot Family, we have a special episode with this one for you, get ready to step inside the life of one of the most prolific figures of our generation. In this powerful and unfiltered conversation, comedy icon, TV mogul, and entrepreneur Steve Harvey sits down with Ryan Clark, Fred Taylor, and Channing Crowder to talk about the pivotal moments that shaped his life — from homelessness to the Live at the Apollo to big screens of Hollywood. He shares the keys to not giving up, how becoming successful is one feat but staying there is true fulfillment. With his signature blend of wisdom and wit, Steve opens up about the grind behind his success, the faith that kept him grounded, and the mindset that separates the great from the average. But beyond the fame, Steve gets deeply personal — reflecting on his upbringing in Cleveland, the sacrifices his parents made, and how his father’s discipline and his mother’s prayers laid the foundation for everything he’s built. He speaks on how their influence still drives him today, especially in how he leads his own family and honors their legacy through purpose-driven work. In an emotional revelation, Steve shares with the guys the depth of his bond with his father and how the closeness is something that can never be replicated and how the loss still sticks with him today. Steve's ability to use humor to discuss tough topics and address some of the darker times in his life is a masterclass on legacy, resilience and betting on yourself. Steve unpacks his biggest pivots — including walking away from secure paychecks to follow his calling, navigating public criticism, and balancing fame with responsibility. He also drops gems on generational wealth, manhood, and what today’s young men need to hear about purpose, respect, and staying true to who they are. From generational wealth and black fatherhood to choosing purpose over popularity, Steve delivers game and vulnerability in equal measure. He talks about his own children, especially his daughters and how difficult it is to protect them while in the public eye but also where to draw the line between fame and privacy. This conversation goes far beyond words — it’s a blueprint for building a meaningful life. Thank you to Toyota and as you heard, we talked about Toyota's all in partnership with football and game day giveaways, Learn more at https://toyota.com/nfl Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:01Speaker 00

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• 0:30Ryan Clark?

  Today's guest is Steve Harvey. I would list everything that he's accomplished, but you pretty much know it all, and we try to keep these intros under a minute and a half. So here's what I'll tell you. He's extremely kind. He opened his home to us. He took care of us before, during, and after our conversation. And everybody that worked for him just happily did anything they could to make us feel at home. And the most telling, his right-hand woman, Ms. Megan, has been with him for three decades. We talked, we laughed, we learned. Okay, it's The Pivot, so you know we cried. And he told us why he worked so much, and why he focuses on taking the right job. He shared on fatherhood, multiple marriages, divorces, and homelessness. We did fit some sports in, though. We talked about his hometown, Cleveland Browns,

• 1:14Ryan Clark?

  and their relationships with quarterbacks. He also mentioned a phrase that no one said to him after his father died. Well, at least until he met Marjorie. No wonder why he loves that woman so much. So grab a chair for this one. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, I forgot. He also spoke on Cat Williams. How'd I forget that? All right, well, that's enough of me. This is The Pivot's conversation with Steve Harvey, and it starts now. I need to get richer friends. I'm stopping hanging around, y'all. I want to come to Steve's house.

• 1:44Channing Crowder?

  I thought I had money, but this is money money.

• 1:47Fred Taylor?

  This is motivation. This is motivation, boy.

• 1:51Channing Crowder?

  I'm not as talented as Steve. Let me come on in.

• 1:54Fred Taylor?

  Oh, shit.

• 1:55Channing Crowder?

  What's up, Ryan? The OG.

• 1:59Channing Crowder?

  I'll be honest with y'all. I ain't as talented as old Steve, y'all, sir.

• 2:03Fred Taylor?

  Yeah, you got me. You got talent.

• 2:05Ryan Clark?

  Hey, Chan, I felt like the Princess of Munda when I pull up. I was like, you know what? What they got to eat? Whatever food you like.

• 2:14Speaker 04

  I was like, heck yeah.

• 2:16Channing Crowder?

  He had a Doberman picture meet you and nod at you.

• 2:19Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:20Channing Crowder?

  You and my dog, your dog and me had a moment. We just nodded at each other. He said, what's up, brother? I said, man, you good.

• 2:27Speaker 04

  He's the character checker.

• 2:29Channing Crowder?

  Just to see.

• 2:30Speaker 04

  Yeah, if you're not cool, you don't get in.

• 2:33Fred Taylor?

  You got a character check. I got a real quick heat check before we get going. If we did a pivot poll, were you, RC, and Stephen A. Smith, suit gang? Who winning? Straight to it.

• 2:44Speaker 04

  Ain't no, ain't no.

• 2:45Fred Taylor?

  Straight to it.

• 2:46Speaker 04

  This ain't even no, really. You shouldn't even have had the poll.

• 2:50Fred Taylor?

  I mean, we gonna have a poll.

• 2:52Ryan Clark?

  Wait, hold on. I'm gonna have to call you Mr. Harvey.

• 2:56Speaker 04

  Well, you ain't got to, but.

• 2:58Ryan Clark?

  But, can we? I feel like it's a two-man poll, right? We should eliminate Stephen A. out the game.

• 3:04Speaker 04

  This what I think. I think to me, right now, on TV, in the sports anchor game, you the best dressed dude on TV.

• 3:12Fred Taylor?

  Okay.

• 3:13Speaker 04

  To me.

• 3:13Ryan Clark?

  We leave it down.

• 3:14Speaker 04

  Hands down. I'll leave that alone.

• 3:16Fred Taylor?

  Okay, but.

• 3:18Speaker 04

  The best dressed man on TV, television, all forms,

• 3:28Speaker 04

  that damn Steve Harvey.

• 3:53Ryan Clark?

  Well, he needs no introduction. Welcome to the pivot. This is Fred Taylor, Ryan Clark, this is Channing Crowder, the great Steve Harvey. Pivot fam, thank you guys for pivoting with us. Probably about two weeks ago, and you know, I told you thank you at the time. You just sent me a text message out of the blue. I just want to let you know, I was dealing with some things based on who I am, whether it be on TV or who I support. And to get that text message from you to keep on going and to keep on being who I was meant the world to me. And so, you know, I want to say thank you. After you text me, I was like, well, I'm gonna give him about a week and a half before I ask him to be on the show.

• 4:30Speaker 04

  The show did.

• 4:32Ryan Clark?

  But I would like to ask you, you don't do a lot of things like this. What made it sort of okay for you? Or what made you make the decision to sit with us?

• 4:42Speaker 04

  You know what it is, man? Because I watch the show, I watch y'all's podcast. I don't watch a lot because I'm just not into. Especially people's opinions and thoughts and stuff. I let them have what they want to have. But this show right here, man, to me, was like a safe place for men to come. And I've watched you all embrace men on this show like I've never seen people embrace men. To offer them your friendship, your guidance, to tell them that you love them, to hug them when they crying. And I said, man, I've never seen a group of men get together to celebrate manhood.

• 5:27Speaker 04

  And then to turn around and honor each other, but then to offer sincere help. And that's why I said, man, that's a dope show, man. I would do that. Before you even ask, I said, man, I'd do that show, but I don't reach out. I don't, hey, man, can I do your show? You know, just ain't never been me. And then you had dude that played cornerback for LSU on.

• 5:49Ryan Clark?

  Greg Brooks.

• 5:50Speaker 04

  And that had an accident and got paralyzed and started walking again. And that interview was compelling to me. But when he got up and walked off and it broke you down, I said, okay. Yeah, them real dudes right there.

• 6:08Ryan Clark?

  Appreciate it.

• 6:08Speaker 04

  Because you held it together for him to let him say what he say. But the whole time, man, you was hurting for him. Because you know, all y'all, y'all play a violent game, man. But they don't know behind these violent games are real men that hurt, that have feelings. That, you know, you figure, you a football player, you ought to be that, right? But y'all are, are men with, y'all family men. Y'all got kids and stuff, and you know, we joke about that. But when it broke you down, man, that really mattered to me. I said, damn, these dudes is real. So as soon as you asked me to do it, I said, cool.

• 6:46Ryan Clark?

  He did.

• 6:47Speaker 04

  You know, because I don't, I don't really fool with a lot of them.

• 6:51Channing Crowder?

  But Steve, that humanity of it, though. You're a super famous, worldwide. It was just something that came out that motherfuckers knew you before. Tom Cruise or something I saw online. That humanity of being a black man, where does that come from? Because you could be just a famous dude, but you really care.

• 7:11Speaker 04

  I had to get that to my mother, man. My childhood was different, man. My mama was a Sunday school teacher for 40 years at the same church. My father was a hoodlum. My father was a hard-working, the dude that drank on the weekends. But my father, he didn't go to church. My father never talked to me about God, never talked to me about prayer, faith. All he talked to me about was hard work. Hard work, be a man, take care of your family. Take care of your sisters, take care of your mama. When I ain't here, and I was the youngest. Take, when I ain't here, this what you gotta do, this what men do. My mother taught me about faith.

• 7:52Speaker 04

  And I think the most important message she gave me a long time ago, she said, listen. She said, it's something about you that's different from all these kids. She say, one day, God gonna give you a big house up on the hill. When you get up on the hill, you can't get up there and don't show nobody else how to get up there. And you remember that. Now, you know, when you ate, this ain't registered. Big house on the hill. I just want a driveway where we ain't got to drive in and back out. That's all I want. I don't need a house on a hill.

• 8:25Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 8:27Speaker 04

  I want a driveway where you can go around like that. Because, you know, Christmas, they used to take us out to the suburbs, watch, look at the Christmas lights. And all them driveways, they went around like, I said, Daddy, why we can't get one? He said, we ain't got no money for that. He said, but if you work hard, one day you can get that. And so that was part of probably my mother's doing, man, to make me remain humble and remember to give back.

• 8:49Fred Taylor?

  And you're still doing that, though. You were giving us flowers and how we sit with men. You have a mentoring program for the young men through your foundation, right, with your wife?

• 8:59Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 9:00Fred Taylor?

  I think you say you teach them like principles of manhood.

• 9:02Speaker 04

  Right.

• 9:02Fred Taylor?

  Teach them how to unlock, you know, the potential within and unlock dreams. Kind of speak to that a little bit. It's like a five-day camp.

• 9:09Speaker 04

  Yeah, because all it is, man, is I bring in boys 13, 18 years old from single-parent homes that have no father figure, have no father in their life. And the way I started it, man, was, you know, my father died when I was forty-three. And my mom had died when I was forty. My mother's death affected me differently. It was the single most crushing blow I've ever had, man, in my whole life. But when my father died, I couldn't believe it. Because he was just the coldest dude I knew, man. My father was just that dog. He was just that dog, man. And I couldn't believe he died, right?

• 9:48Speaker 04

  And at the funeral, he in his casket, and I was sitting there going, man, without that dude right there, there's no way I would have been here. He just taught me too much dog, man. He, he, he put the dog in me, the, the fight, the, the grit, the toughness. And without him, I wouldn't have been there. So I'm on the plane going back home, and I said, man, how do you make it without a father?

• 10:16Speaker 04

  And I said, wow, that's gotta be a difficult thing for a young man to make it in this world without a father. Because, look, man, a boy without a father is like an explorer without a map. No guidance. Bro, you don't know how to get there. Manhood can only be taught by men. So that was the birth of my foundation right there. I said, man, so I had a ranch in Dallas. I said, man, I'm gonna start bringing boys in there to teach them about how to make your dreams come true and how to be a man. Because if you got a single mother, God bless them, and there's some wonderful mothers out there.

• 10:59Speaker 04

  But your mother can make you a good citizen, a good student, a God-fearing man, law-abiding citizen. She can make you courteous. She can make you well-kept in good. She can't make you no man, though. She cannot do it. You need that from somebody. And so that was the birth of the foundation. And so we bring them out, out at my ranch. It's different now. I sold that ranch in Dallas. I got another ranch about an hour twenty south of Atlanta between here and Macon. And I bring them in for five days and I only cover two things. Principles of manhood and dream building. How to be the best man you could be and how to make your dreams come true.

• 11:39Speaker 04

  Cause that's the key to these, especially minority boys, or any boy really, that's the key. And so we do that for five days. I have a lot of speakers and stuff come in, all male speakers. Now, you know, sometimes you get some corporate help and they, American Airlines one time said, well, we have a female speaker we want to speak. I said, well, do you have a man that could do it? Well, what we're not gonna do is be slighting because you have some gender preference. I said, no, no ma'am, listen to me. They hear from women all the time. I need to show them as many men as I can that they can look up to as an example. So if you just send me a man. Oh, this lady was just arguing with me, man.

• 12:24Speaker 04

  Arguing with me. To the point where the argument got down to, we will take our tickets that we gave you to fly in on if we don't let this woman speak. I said, okay, cool. So I let her speak. The most ineffective speech ever at that ranch.

• 12:43Ryan Clark?

  And you know, this has been, you know, started off, you've been dropping some gems, right? It's been a lot of wisdom. But I'm not gonna let you just keep sliding in this affluent lifestyle you have.

• 12:55Speaker 04

  How slide it in?

• 12:56Ryan Clark?

  So, you know, I had the ranch in Dallas, but see, we sold that one. So now I got a ranch that's like an hour and a half from here. That's between here and Macon. When we pulled up, right? Channing was driving down in the golf cart, on the back of the golf cart, and he was like.

• 13:14Speaker 04

  I was mesmerized.

• 13:15Ryan Clark?

  You know, when you have all that though, like there's a motivation when you're broke. There's a motivation when you've seen your father work so dang hard every day. When he's instilled that in you. When you got 17 million shows on TV. When you've authored bestselling books. When you have a beautiful family, different houses you can go to. We yacht in Europe in the summer. What keeps Steve Harvey motivated now?

• 13:43Speaker 04

  Well, I gotta go back to my mama being a Sunday school teacher, right? There's a scripture that says, "A man without a dream or vision shall perish." You got to always have something you're shooting for, or what you're getting up for. See, you can't lose your motivation. That's why when a lot of people retire, they just wither and die, because their reason to get up and go live has been taken away. They thought retirement, but they had purpose. See, you gotta always have purpose. I tell young people this all the time, man, it's hard to make money, man. And it's hard to make a lot of money, and it'll take a long time to make a lot of money. But if you think it's hard to make money,

• 14:26Speaker 04

  it's way harder to keep it and to add to it. I equate it to doing 100 push-ups. You know, all y'all in physical shape. You can play in the league. But the average person can't do 100 push-ups in a row.

• 14:43Speaker 04

  I bet you, it'd be every 2,000, 5,000, 10,000 people you can find do 100 in a row. Probably more than that. But let's say that you manage somehow to get to 70, and every fiber in your body is shaking and quivering, and you get to 80, and your teeth has got hairline fractures in it, and the veins is bulging out your head. And then you get to 90 push-ups, and you're peeing on yourself.

• 15:16Speaker 04

  People are talking to you, but you can't even communicate. And somehow, by the grace of God, you get 100 push-ups in. You are now successful. Now, guess what? To stay successful, guess what you gotta do? You got to hold. You got to lock and hold. And after 100, that locking and holding is hard, because you done burned everything up getting there. Now, you got to hold, but that's the only way. You got to lock and hold. And you got to stay there, man, because at that point, by the time you get here, you got so many people counting on you.

• 15:57Speaker 04

  And like, you know, you all heads of families. What happened if you stopped doing what you do? Have you counted the people that will crumble and suffer?

• 16:09Speaker 04

  If you stop doing what you do. Oh, yeah. You can start with all them people that bought all these cameras and drove all these trucks. They gotta go find something else to do. That's starters. Then their family got to get the news, I ain't working no more with Pivot. They gotta start thinking of something else. You ain't even said nothing about what you do for your parents. What you do for your wife's people, because you helping everybody. Because everybody think you it. Yep. And heavy is the head that wears the crown. The cold thing about the crown is you don't get to take it off. You don't even get to lay down with it. That's why you toss and turn at night, because that crown cutting in your head.

• 16:54Channing Crowder?

  See, is that why you don't say no to no jobs?

• 16:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, man.

• 16:58Channing Crowder?

  You don't say no to nothing.

• 17:00Speaker 04

  No, I stack them.

• 17:02Channing Crowder?

  You, have you ever said no to anything? Because that's the thing with you. What's the thing you did when you messed the little girl name up?

• 17:09Speaker 04

  You gonna bring that up? I knew it wasn't coming.

• 17:12Channing Crowder?

  That was funny to me. I laughed.

• 17:14Speaker 04

  2015? Damn. Man.

• 17:18Channing Crowder?

  That was 10 years ago.

• 17:19Speaker 04

  That's been 10 years.

• 17:21Channing Crowder?

  So the beauty contest to the little kids talent shows to the...

• 17:24Speaker 04

  You will never, you never will say no to a job. Look, man. Somebody told me one time, they said, "Man, Steve, it seem like everything you touch turned to gold."

• 17:36Speaker 04

  Now I just don't touch everything.

• 17:39Speaker 04

  I only touch what's brand worthy. And what's on brand. Look, man, I was homeless, right? I lived in a car, everybody know that. But somebody asked me one time, they said, "Hey, man, why you spend so much money on your cars?" Because I have like really nice cars. I said, "Well..."

• 17:56Channing Crowder?

  That's all?

• 17:57Speaker 04

  "'Cause if this ever goes bad, I'm gonna be living in a Rolls Royce."

• 18:06Speaker 04

  It got refrigerator in it, TV, computer, icebox, got heated seats. Everything. You know, I'm gonna be a lot more comfortable. Right. Now, in essence, really, I'm gonna sell that car and buy a house, in essence, but I've been running from poverty for so long because I was in it for so long. I guess I'm kind of afraid of, you know, it going bad. And I just can't stand the fact that some one person can come up to me, because I've been laid off before. At General Electric, they came and gave me a layoff slip right at Thanksgiving. And then they let me have a 20-pound turkey. And I had to go home, tell my wife and twins, I got 20-pound turkey, I ain't got no job no more.

• 18:50Speaker 04

  That's the last time I had one job. That's nasty. So like, if Family Feud come to me and say, you ain't got no more job, I just go do the judge show. Judge show come to me and say, you ain't got no more job, then I just go do the radio show. If the radio show say, you ain't got no more job, then I'm gonna go overseas. Because I got some more jobs. Ain't no one person finna take me out.

• 19:12Speaker 00

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• 19:40Channing Crowder?

  Is there any job you've taken that you regret or you haven't taken that you look back and regret?

• 19:47Speaker 04

  I tell you the biggest mistake I ever made?

• 19:52Speaker 04

  Because I didn't know business back then. Years ago, man, I had a TV show called Steve Harvey's Big Time. It came on the WB. And I had three judges, three celebrity judges, but they wasn't real celebrities. You didn't hardly know them. The WB was a fledgling network. So they paid who they could. We called them celebrities. They was nice people. And I hosted the show, and I bought out. You ain't know these people. I didn't know them.

• 20:21Speaker 04

  But I introducing them for them. Ladies and gentlemen, please. Put your hand. And then pointed at him and he stand there and waving.

• 20:29Fred Taylor?

  Beating their.

• 20:31Speaker 04

  I've said, who the hell is this? And so, that was a show and I bought acts who did everything. Dude that could, a woman take a toaster and spin it around and just bust her husband in the head with it. And then she spin it around and bust it until a whole toaster explode. You know, I was doing stuff like that. I had a dude that could sit on top of firecrackers and M80s and cherry bombs. He had to go to hospital. I was there at night when he sat on the wrong thing, looked at too much. He lost a testicle.

• 21:10Speaker 04

  On my show, I, it's crazy stuff I was doing. And so, you know, people doing all kind of crazy acts, right? And so, it lasted for two years.

• 21:23Speaker 04

  And then, I didn't know nothing about business. I didn't own it. I just created. I was the king of making appearance money. And the show went off the air.

• 21:33Speaker 04

  The next year, a show came on that had three judges on it, had a host on it. They hired all the producers from Steve Harvey's Big Time. And all of the acts that I had the first year on it, appeared on that show. You know the name of that show? America's Got Talent.

• 21:59Speaker 04

  Biggest mistake I've ever made, man. Cause I didn't have the paperwork and the business, the ownership, the IP. And I got all of that from Showtime at the Apollo. Cause I said, man, they ought to take Showtime at the Apollo and make it prime time. No, that's barbaric, the booing. Well, no, not really. I said, okay, well, and that's why I got the whole concept. That's the biggest, hey man, I wouldn't even be, I wouldn't even have to work today.

• 22:30Fred Taylor?

  That's crazy. I think God does work in mysterious ways for us, not having the paperwork actually landed us the pivot. That's how we got this show.

• 22:41Speaker 04

  What you mean by that, though?

• 22:43Fred Taylor?

  Ah, man, I don't even like to talk about it. But we were on another podcast during the pandemic, and the paperwork wasn't together. So, we got together. We had to pivot from there, and we all got together. Alicia, the producer, we tapped in with R.C., and we said, "Before we do anything, we gonna make sure the paperwork good." So, we had to pivot. The pivot was born, and it's a blessing for all of us.

• 23:06Speaker 04

  Now, we sit with Steve Harvey.

• 23:07Fred Taylor?

  Yeah.

• 23:08Speaker 04

  But see, y'all doing something. See, I kind of missed that edge, because I didn't know what you all know, the smartness of social media and the technology. Because I'm an old-school cat, you know? So, I kind of missed that mark, you know? I've been straight, real TV, and now TV is changing. TV is not the giant that it was, because there's too many streamers out there now. When I was doing the Steve Harvey Show with Sid, that was my second sitcom, because I had a sitcom called Me and the Boys. To stay on TV and be a success, you had to have a 7.5. Me, Jamie Foxx, Parenthood, The Wayans,

• 23:53Speaker 04

  we was all on the same network with sevens. A hit show today to stay on TV is a .7. Wow.

• 24:03Fred Taylor?

  It's crazy.

• 24:03Speaker 04

  It's crazy, man. There's a show that's been on CBS for 12 years called FBI, I think it is. Seven years, they get a .7. Make all the money they can. But TV has changed now, man. And so, now with the change coming, you know, I have to constantly think of, what's the next move? You know, because change is inevitable. You got two things you can do with change. You could participate in it, or you could react to it. If you react to it, you're gonna be late. So, since the change is coming, you might as well participate. I really respect what you all doing, like with the podcast. Because like, it was crazy. I'll tell you what else tripped me out. People say, you know, "You don't really do podcasts."

• 24:47Speaker 04

  Because everybody asks me, "Where's your podcast?" "It's in Miami. All you gotta do is fly down." "No, no, that ain't finna happen." "I'm not finna spend no money."

• 24:57Speaker 04

  To go, I spend money to make money. That's the business, you know. If I gotta get a jet, then come on, man. I need to be making some paper. So, when Ryan asked me, I said, hey, man, where y'all at? He said, man, he said, we'll come to you. I went, okay, what kind of money they got? Because that ain't, that ain't no regular podcast. Because everybody I know got a podcast is po. You know. They just, because they podcast and they, they want to send a Zoom and do you have, do you have, do you have Microsoft meeting and can you? So I'm not finna do that, man. I'm on TV for real. I'm not finna sit on a computer and press no button and have some bad light on me. I already got big nose. You know, you can't, you can't have like large features and then be badly lit.

• 25:41Fred Taylor?

  That's crazy.

• 25:42Speaker 04

  It just don't make no sense. In that small box at that. Boy, God, dog.

• 25:46Channing Crowder?

  Oh, so you ain't tell them we can get them on Southwest?

• 25:48Speaker 04

  No, we can't. He don't fly no Southwest.

• 25:50Channing Crowder?

  Yeah, he ain't been.

• 25:51Speaker 04

  Now, the last time I been on, they had to seat that face you.

• 25:55Channing Crowder?

  Looking back at you.

• 25:56Speaker 04

  Yeah, this little.

• 25:59Fred Taylor?

  Let me tap into this real quick. Because you crazy.

• 26:01Speaker 04

  See how I caught myself?

• 26:02Fred Taylor?

  Yeah, boy.

• 26:03Speaker 04

  I said, boy, that right there, that's gonna light the internet up. What did you say?

• 26:07Fred Taylor?

  I don't know if I ever been on Southwest when they had to seat that face you.

• 26:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, I been on now.

• 26:11Fred Taylor?

  I want to go back to where R.C. started about motivation. You said it's hard to stay there.

• 26:17Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 26:17Fred Taylor?

  But you were homeless for three years.

• 26:19Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 26:20Fred Taylor?

  And it'll be probably more people that homeless and trying to get out of that situation than where you are now and have them to stay.

• 26:27Speaker 04

  For sure.

• 26:28Fred Taylor?

  So speak to that, like, was it harder to, to fight out of that and get to this spot? More so than maintaining?

• 26:36Speaker 04

  Of course, at the time, it feels that way. Because in order to get to it, you got to go through it. And it's the going through part that people don't want to deal with.

• 26:47Fred Taylor?

  Yeah.

• 26:47Speaker 04

  You know, I look back on everything that's happened to me. And was it worth it? Yeah, because I get to be here now. But for people who are stuck, like you ain't gotta be homeless to be having it hard. You could be in a full-blown relationship with somebody and be having it hard. You know, man, you can have a nice house and have it hard, because you don't know. I try to say to people, it's not where you at. It's where you going. And you can't lose sight of where you going. Because today is temporary. If it all goes right, today will be called yesterday.

• 27:30Speaker 04

  And if it all goes really right, tomorrow gonna be today. And so if you can understand that it can change for you tomorrow, it'll give you the fortitude to hang in there today. Because all you got to do is wake up. See, when you wake up in the morning, man, that's God sending a clear signal to you that he ain't through with you yet. That he still got more for you to receive. And that's how I look at it. So when I was in that car homeless, I hated it. But I knew God was showing me something. But after about, I'm gonna tell you real, man, after about a month, I told God, I said, "Okay, man, I got it. I got it."

• 28:12Speaker 04

  Made your point, huh?

• 28:14Channing Crowder?

  I need the mattress, brother.

• 28:15Speaker 04

  You have my attention. Got it. Six months in, I said, "Okay, God." I put both hands on the dashboard. Got it, locked in, undivided attention. Me, right here, what you want? I'm looking, I'm here. A year later, "Hey, hey."

• 28:36Speaker 04

  Okay, you tripping. Yeah, you, oh, you, I'm here. What we doing? I got it. Two years in, I'm done. Hey, man, it's not even, "I got it no more." It's, "What else do you want?" Because I done gave it all. Three years in, I said, "I can't take it no more." I'm out. I'm gonna go home. Because, see, my parents never knew I was home. My ex-wife, I got a wife, twins. So I said, man, let me call my daddy. Ask my daddy if I could stay at his house for six months. Get a job. I'm gonna let this go. And that was the plan.

• 29:20Speaker 04

  And before I called him, they had let me put a phone in their attic with an answer machine on it. Because they knew I was out on the road. So I called my answer machine on the day I was gonna give up. And a phone rang and it was Chuck Sutton from Showtime at the Apollo. This is 91. He said, hey, man, I saw a tape of yours. You funny as all outdoors. We got an opening on Showtime at the Apollo on Sunday. If you can get here, give me a call, blah, blah, blah. Let me know. It's Thursday. I'm in Pensacola, Florida. I got $35. It ain't no way I can get to New York with $35. It ain't no way. I ain't got no gas in the car.

• 30:05Speaker 04

  So I knew I had to get some gas. Because, you know, I'm really owe y'all an apology. Because I'm the one person that's solely responsible for the sign that says, pay before you pump. Because I could get some gas. I'm gonna fill it up. I don't, I wasn't getting like $5. Because you're gonna go to jail for the $5. Right. I'm filling up. Soon as ain't nobody looking. Ease on over to buy the dough. Right. Drive off. So I just wanted to put that out there. I apologize that y'all dealing with that sign. So I get back in my car after I get this message.

• 30:49Speaker 04

  And I'm broken. Because the one thing I wanted to do was be on TV was Sunday night in New York. And I can't even get there. I ain't know what to do, man. So I got us a man, let me go back and call the machine and see if he said this Sunday. Maybe he said next Sunday, maybe I can hustle up some money and get up there. I called back and he said the same thing. It's Chuck Sutton, Showtime at the Parlor, I saw a tape on you, very funny. I got an opening on parlor, if you can get here by Sunday, give me a call. Click, and I was finna hang up and it said, you have another message. And I pressed the button, he said, Steve Harvey, this is Tom Sobel from the Comedy Caravan.

• 31:31Speaker 04

  I don't know where you are right now, buddy, but I got a gig in Jacksonville, Florida, at the Punch Line, if you can get there tomorrow night, I got a hundred and fifty dollars for you. I called Tom Sobel, I got the gig. I drove from Pensacola to Jacksonville, made the hundred and fifty dollars on Friday night. I said, man, I got a hundred and fifty. I called Chuck Sutton, he ain't answer the phone. He said, I was so funny, he said, hey, man, I'm gonna replace the act we got. If you stay another night, I'll give you another hundred and fifty. That's Saturday. I said, okay, cool, cuz I hadn't heard from Chuck Sutton. I do the hundred and fifty, I get on phone, I call Chuck Sutton, he said, yeah, this Chuck Sutton. I said, it's Steve Harvey, man, you still got that opening tomorrow night? He said, yeah.

• 32:15Speaker 04

  Eastern Airlines was opening, I bought a ticket for ninety-nine dollars. Flew to Harlem, New York. Did Showtime at the Parlor, got standing ovation. I been on TV ever since, man.

• 32:26Ryan Clark?

  Wow. Wow.

• 32:27Speaker 04

  That's crazy.

• 32:28Ryan Clark?

  That's sort of like the picture you always see where the one guy stopped digging right before he got to go.

• 32:33Speaker 04

  Bro, that's my favorite picture.

• 32:36Ryan Clark?

  You know?

• 32:37Speaker 04

  Everybody do that, man. You know, Deion Sanders told me one time, man, we was talking. He said, Steve, everybody got a turn back moment. Everybody got a moment in their life where they turn back. You get to choose now. Because turning back is the simplest way to go about it sometimes. It's easy to turn back, it ain't hard no more. But that's kind of crazy. Some dude asked me the other day, said, one of my partners, we was talking, he said, Steve, why you always take the hardest road, man? You always go to hard, why you always pick the hardest road?

• 33:16Speaker 04

  I said, hey, man, what make you think I see two roads?

• 33:20Speaker 04

  That's real. I only, I just know that way. Right. That's the way. And the way is hard. That, that's the way. See, all, all is hard, homie. You just gotta pick your hard. It's hard to go to the gym and get in shape like y'all. But it's hard to be a fat motherfucker too now. Shit. They hard. Yeah, that's hard. Walk your ass back up that hill. It's, it's hard. You'd have been better off going to the gym. Yeah, it's hard to open up a business. It's hard to start a company. Yeah, but ain't it hard to go to a job you hate and get underpaid? That ain't hard.

• 34:06Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's hard to buy a big house. I, I know that. That's hard. Ain't it hard living in a tiny house though? Hard living in a car too. Hey man, you know a funny thing though? I had a TV show, talk show right now. Had these people on from tiny homes.

• 34:28Speaker 04

  Producers had put them on the show and I, you know, I don't know what's gonna be on the show all the time. I just come to work and they say, this is the show we're doing this week. And, and today we have the representatives from tiny home. And you know, I tried to get all the jokes out. My system in the production room, you know, cause I'm not fitting to sit up in here and co-sign this tiny house shit. I'm just not fitting to do it, no. I done lived in the car, I'm not fitting in. So we get on the show and here these guys is and they just, they pulling up pictures and this is our deluxe model, deluxe. And I'm sitting there going, man, I'm, I'm just looking at this and I just don't see the benefits of a tiny home. I just don't see how I'm sitting up in here cooking.

• 35:14Speaker 04

  My wife's standing there at the kitchen cooking and I'm sitting here shitting

• 35:20Speaker 04

  right next to the stove. And my baby is trying to do homework on a bunk. I know he can smell me.

• 35:33Ryan Clark?

  It'd have gotten the egg.

• 35:34Speaker 04

  Yeah, it all in the egg. I'm changing the channel with my toe. I'm sitting here, come on. And I'm sitting here, man, and I'm just on this show roasting this tiny house. And the owner, I was, the audience was screaming. The owner just folded his arms. Needless to say, we couldn't add a segment. Because it just.

• 36:00Ryan Clark?

  They didn't put it on TV at all?

• 36:01Speaker 04

  No, they couldn't do that, though. Because I had annihilated tiny homes.

• 36:09Speaker 00

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• 36:38Ryan Clark?

  Can I do a hey, Steve?

• 36:39Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 36:40Ryan Clark?

  I've always, you know, the lady, what's the lady's name that holds the microphone? She's not here for me to, for me to talk to. So I'm gonna be the Cleveland Browns. Right? And my hey, Steve is this, because you, you brought it up. Hey, Steve, how you doing? I'm the Cleveland Browns. We haven't had a good quarterback in, in decades. And we now have drafted, uh, Shador Sanders. Uh, but we're gonna start Joe Flacco. And Shador Sanders is going to be on our bench as the third quarterback. Steve, my question to you is, how do you feel as a fan?

• 37:14Speaker 04

  As a fan? Well, thank you for asking that question. So kind of you. Happy you're here. Where you from?

• 37:23Ryan Clark?

  I'm from New Orleans, Louisiana.

• 37:24Speaker 04

  Oh, that's good. I've been a Cleveland Brown fan my entire life. I happen to be 68 years old. I was sitting on the floor with my father in 1964, watching the Cleveland Browns beat the Baltimore Colts ass. I was seven years old. I watched that. I watched Jim Brown get up, be the last man into the huddle, all of that. I have watched us not win nothing since 1964. And you gonna sit here and ask me about a damn quarterback? Joe Fleck will be playing a few games, but his old ass gonna get hurt. You just can't be 40 and run that fast away from all these people. So Joe Flacco gonna get hurt.

• 38:06Speaker 04

  Then we gonna go to this white dude that no one has ever heard of until draft day. We've never heard of him. Why Shador lasted this long in the draft is beyond me. But it's okay. They did what they did and everybody knows what was done. We ain't gotta beat the dead horse. Now, the game I saw Shador play was an impressive game. The second time, they put four, five linemen in the game that had never played football, organized, uh, Pau or no other league. And he got sacked 800 times, thrown for 2,000 yards in losses. Right. We find out later on that none of them damn linemen is playing football even today.

• 38:50Speaker 04

  They shouldn't have been playing in the first damn place. So now, we're gonna watch this Gabriel boy go out here and panic his ass off soon as he get thrown in there with the wolves. Cause the real wolves come during the season. Pittsburgh is coming. Baltimore is coming. The real wolves is coming. Now, I am praying to God that Shador gets an opportunity to show what he can really do. And I think that would be probably the best thing for him. But knowing the Cleveland Browns, they dumbass gonna trade him.

• 39:32Speaker 04

  They gonna trade him away, cause you know quarterbacks ain't what we do. We had Deshaun Watson. The Deshaun Watson. What'd he do? Well, he had a great quarterback. He just massages. You know, here's what Deshaun should have done. And I'm still a Deshaun Watson guy. What he should have done? He, at one point, you had to learn, it's okay to get the massage. You got to quit turning over, though.

• 39:59Speaker 04

  And this has been HD on the pivot. I'm sorry, man.

• 40:02Channing Crowder?

  That's a perfect segue, man. How do you, that, the, I don't want to say the cancel culture, but going between like the acceptable jokes and the culture to the mainstream to the back and forth. And I even see you on, um, Family Feud sometime. I can see the, the clock working where you got a joke, but you're not allowed to say that joke.

• 40:27Speaker 04

  I got it. And see, it's, it's very hard, but that's, that's why I left stand-up in 2012, 2015, one of them. I left stand-up then because I had so many shows. I had built such a catalog of work. I was making money. I had to let something go and if I tour on the weekends, I, I wouldn't even have a family. So I let stand-up go because I saw the change coming. You remember I said, change is inevitable, you got to react or participate. So my participation was to get away from it because the cancel culture started becoming everywhere. Comedy is too hard to do right now. And you got, and all you got to do is look at now, the way the cancel culture works.

• 41:10Speaker 04

  See, y'all got a podcast and you're doing it brilliantly. Please don't stop doing the way you do. See, the problem with people is they get something that work and then they want to find something that work better. You ain't, you ain't got to fix it if it ain't broke. See, I'm on radio for real. I have a real radio show. I have the number one adult contemporary show, 25 to 54 in America. The Steve Harvey Morning Show. I'm in 112 markets. I got nine million listeners.

• 41:41Speaker 04

  I'm controlled by FCC rules. The problem is, these people go get these podcasts who have no FCC rules to abide by. But you have to remember, even though you're on a podcast, you still got a brand. And so you can't say what you want to say and expect to be relevant and not get canceled. You can't have a podcast and the way that you think you can make money is on clicks and views at the expense of others. And not expect to have to pay the expense.

• 42:20Speaker 04

  You can't have a podcast and light me up and don't expect to get lit up. You can't have a podcast, let somebody come on your show and talk about your friends. I agree. Okay, you got a podcast, y'all got a guest on here. And he starts slamming Fred. He knows something about Fred happened in the past, will lie or not, and just start slamming Fred. Y'all gotta shut that down. Yeah. Cause you, this your brother, you gotta protect him and you gotta protect the brand. They don't do that no more. So you come on my show. You spread all these lies about some people that I call my so-called friends. And I just let you sit there and check it.

• 43:03Speaker 04

  And because your podcast had so many views on that right there, your next guest is the same type of guest. Cause now you want, you want your money to be made off clicks and views at somebody's expense. Well now guess what, you got paid for that. Cause once you put it out in the universe that I want clicks and views, the universe does not differentiate. It just give you clicks and views. So now here to come the rest of them. And now you got clicks and views.

• 43:33Ryan Clark?

  My question to that though is, there was a podcast and there was a comedian who talked about you. And you waited a while before ever responding to Cat Williams. But when you responded, it felt like there was a lot more vitriol to your response than it was all of the initial accusations. Why do you think the response to what you said was so different from what he said on Shannon's show?

• 44:03Speaker 04

  When you say vitriol, what you mean?

• 44:05Ryan Clark?

  The social media fodder was upset with you for the way you finally responded to him. You mentioned his hiatus and what you could do if there was ever an altercation. They said they felt like what he said about you was true because of the nature of your reaction.

• 44:24Speaker 04

  Oh, well see, first of all, I ain't really good at social media, so I didn't even know that was out there. But they can like really kiss most of the corners of my ass.

• 44:35Speaker 04

  When you say stuff like that. First of all, man, let me say this. And I probably. See, first of all, when I said that I was on stage at Earn Your Leisure. I was really just joking. I slapped him, permed, all this. I was just in front of a whole lot of people. I was really just joking. I don't really. I don't really. If I had a chance to talk to Kat about anything, I would just ask him what's wrong. Just what's wrong? Let's go to that. Listen to me, man. Just because a person sits on the show and don't hesitate or say um or ah

• 45:12Speaker 04

  and speaks eloquently, that don't mean it's true. That just don't mean it's true, man. And I probably shouldn't have said anything.

• 45:24Speaker 04

  That's a regret I have. I really shouldn't have said nothing. Because we not in the same league, though. We shooting at two different baskets. I shouldn't even have said nothing. And so, really, man, I think I would apologize to him if he took offense to what I said. I was joking, but I would apologize to him. And like I said, if I had a chance to sit down with him, I would just say, hey, man, what's wrong? But you got to look at the whole tone of the interview. If the whole tone of the interview is what everybody else ain't, what everybody else ain't got, what everybody else doing. I think that's kind of like hate and jealousy.

• 46:08Speaker 04

  And hate and jealousy is a form of grief. You're grieving because, obviously, all them people you talking about have something you either want or are something that you ain't. And you're grieving. And the funeral becomes the podcast. So now, just let me roast all of these people.

• 46:29Speaker 04

  And be honest with you, man, and I'm not talking about him in particular. But if you go on a podcast to degrade and belittle another group of people, that's a little bitch move to me. That's just real bitchy to me. I don't... You know, if y'all ask me on the show, man, I don't want to talk negative about nobody. That's why I say, man, like, I would apologize to him, or I would say, "Ask the brother what's wrong," because I really want to know. You know, but I'm glad I don't really pay attention to social media much. Somebody told me last week that there's a rumor going around that somebody got on a plane and flew into town and slapped me.

• 47:11Speaker 04

  Please tell me that don't happen. And... Not with that security. Yeah, and I was sitting up here and I said, "Okay, Mr. Harvey, did that ever happen, they get on a plane and fly and slap you?" I said, "Well, okay, but where the rest of the story?" Yeah. Yeah, just tell me where the rest of it's at. "What you mean?" I said, "So, but after he slapped me, what happened?" Because that's what I need, it's gotta be some more. You ran in the house crying. Yeah.

• 47:44Fred Taylor?

  Not with all that security.

• 47:48Speaker 04

  When you slapped me... What was the next move? Yeah, because why are you kicking my ass? What is I'm gonna be doing? That's what I be wondering, man. And like, you know, I'm older now, I'm 68, I don't even... I'm not throwing hairs with you. I got a lot of people that I pay. They'll lay you down out here. We saw...

• 48:09Ryan Clark?

  I'm gonna tell you this.

• 48:09Speaker 04

  That's a big ass though.

• 48:10Ryan Clark?

  The way they took my selfie, and I still don't have my license, if they slapped you, they'd get fined.

• 48:16Fred Taylor?

  They got my license too.

• 48:20Speaker 04

  See, we got, look, man, you can't come on here. Cause we are workers and stuff. And you come on here, you can go stay in another building or something, you know.

• 48:29Channing Crowder?

  On the compound.

• 48:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, by the time 4:30 get here and we know everybody out. If you ain't picked your license up, you still here.

• 48:37Channing Crowder?

  We gotta watch it.

• 48:38Speaker 04

  Yeah, so now we gonna come find you.

• 48:40Channing Crowder?

  I gotta, I gotta follow up on that. Why don't you and Cat just sit down and talk? You, you have the resources, he has the resource. I know y'all know enough people. That shit blew up, like, why can't y'all just talk? Cause that's how we do it. We've done it. You even bring up us, we have arguments.

• 48:57Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 48:58Channing Crowder?

  And, bruh, shit hit me, let's talk.

• 49:02Speaker 04

  That's easy, that's easy to do, you know, but I don't like, look, man. If you don't have a desire to talk to me, I don't have time to run you down. But I wasn't, I wasn't the accuser. I didn't see, you gotta be careful.

• 49:17Speaker 04

  Of people who become victims of circumstances that they create. You on here talking about me. I didn't talk about you. If you wanna sit down, I'll sit down. Man, I'll sit down with anybody. I promise you I will, man, I'm that bigger man now. You know, now 30 years ago, I'd have found you.

• 49:38Speaker 04

  With purpose. But not no more, man.

• 49:41Fred Taylor?

  Is it low hanging fruit because of everything that you do? Are you an easy target? Like, cause a lot of 68 year olds, like, you just supposed to just be family, doing your thing, retirement. But you still do so much, you're so relevant. And it's so easy for people to attach my wagon to, to you. Like, clout, or whatever it might be, right? Because social media is gonna respond.

• 50:06Speaker 04

  My youngest child, man, is 28. So they in that generation. And I asked him, "What is it?" And they said, "Dad, you clickbait."

• 50:16Speaker 04

  He said, "You clickbait." He said, "You one of the most viral people in your age group out there." He said, "Dad, every clip on Family Feud got you on it."

• 50:26Fred Taylor?

  Yeah.

• 50:27Speaker 04

  You clickbait. If they can take your face and put it on anything, you become clickbait." He said, "That's what it is, you know." The girl that runs the Shade Room, who's friends with my kids, they're like very decent towards me. You know, they don't put salacious stuff out. They don't let it go, you know. They watch stuff like that. There's people out there, man, I hear stuff about me, man, that just be crazy. I mean, it'd be outlandish. My wife is sleeping with the bodyguard, with the chef, with the driver. How they still driving and cooking?

• 51:05Speaker 04

  What you talking about, man? What kind of bitch-ass dude you think I am, man? I mean, really, man, you really think I'm finna lie this? I be looking at people, man.

• 51:15Fred Taylor?

  That's wild.

• 51:16Speaker 04

  And people get on there and they repeat the stuff.

• 51:19Fred Taylor?

  Right.

• 51:20Speaker 04

  Like I had this one dude got on the podcast and was just talking about my wife, man, using derogatory words and stuff. And I've known the cat before. I found him. I say, "Hey, man, let me explain something to you. You can say whatever you want to say about me. I really don't care. But that girl right there, she off limits, man. You don't know what she did for me. You have no idea. Her presence in my life, what it has done for me, what she's given to me." I said, "Now, I'm gonna give you a chance to explain it. This conversation gonna be real simple." And he just said, "No, man, I ain't mean it like that. I just use that word. I use the word bitch all the time, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah."

• 52:05Speaker 04

  So we kind of talked it out and we got to an agreement, you know. But that's the only thing I come for people for. You know, me, I don't care what you say about me.

• 52:16Speaker 00

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• 52:44Channing Crowder?

  With your kids, and your daughters especially. We was joking about it earlier, where my damn son, we tighten the ass up quick. The girls are tough.

• 52:51Speaker 04

  Right now.

• 52:53Channing Crowder?

  You know what I'm saying? I call it pow pow. That's an old school spanking, and everybody give me a hard time. Boys can get a pow pow. You can't pow pow a girl.

• 53:04Speaker 04

  I've dusted my boys off to near death.

• 53:08Channing Crowder?

  But the pressure that your fame, the pressure that the last name Harvey has put on your daughters of just living a normal life, and then even you being a father, and having to deal with those, the boyfriends, the exes, the all that stuff, where, bruh, you joked about it, but that's why I thought about it. Where you were like, you can't really just go whoop nobody ass. You're Steve Harvey. You can't walk into a Denny's and slap somebody.

• 53:38Speaker 04

  Man, my wife tell me that all the time. She says, "Steve, you gotta quit talking like that." She said, "You got too much to lose."

• 53:44Channing Crowder?

  But that with, my daughter's 12. I couldn't think about her now dating and me fucking up the money for going to tighten one of these dudes up.

• 53:58Speaker 04

  But you know, look, man. The daughters is different. Because as their father, I'm their protector. I'm their example of what love looks like towards their mother. So how I treat their mother is very important, because they looking at it. And they see it. So that's why I always try to be a great example for them for that. Every boy that has ever come through that door to date any of the four daughters, they've all heard the same speech. "Hey, man, listen to me." This could last, this might not last. Y'all can break up, y'all can quit talking. You can ghost her, you can stop texting.

• 54:42Speaker 04

  But if you put your hand on her, I will find you. And I am going to do some things to you that's going to be ungodly. Cause if you beat this daughter of mine, who I've never beaten, I've never struck one of my daughters. You can't do that either. Cause if you do, and I hear about it, that ain't no more words. I'm gonna find you. And I have, I have income, disposable income dedicated to you.

• 55:12Ryan Clark?

  He's all like, taken. I have a, I have a particular skill set. I have a particular skill set. I will come for you. I will find you.

• 55:20Speaker 04

  I have disposable income. Hey, bro. That's one of my favorite lines.

• 55:25Ryan Clark?

  Yeah.

• 55:25Speaker 04

  I have a partic- I will find you. He listened to that dude's voice. That's one of my favorite scenes. And, and that's just it. You know, I tell this story, man, like, oh, my daughter was, uh, 15 and they had a junior prom. And this little boy was gonna take my daughter to the junior prom. I said, no. Marjorie said, Steve, she can go. So the little boy came over to the house and I met him. And, uh, he was 16. I'm looking at him and I hate him, you know, I hate him. I have nothing for him. I have number pure hatred for this boy.

• 55:57Ryan Clark?

  And you also didn't know him?

• 55:59Speaker 04

  No, I didn't know him.

• 56:00Ryan Clark?

  You just hated him?

• 56:00Speaker 04

  Yeah, instant.

• 56:02Ryan Clark?

  Okay, respect.

• 56:03Speaker 04

  Instant, like, like, like Folgers. I just need the hot water. This shit couldn't be coughed.

• 56:12Speaker 04

  So I'm sitting here looking at this little boy. And so the, the, the junior prom ended at 10:00 PM. And so I said, my man, what time the party over? He said, 10 o'clock, sir. I said, okay, uh, Lori has to be home by 10, 10:30. He said, no, Mr. Harvey, hold on one second. He said, the after-party, uh, starts at 11. I said, yeah, that's fine, that's fine. Lori has to be home at 10:30. He said, no, Mr. Harvey, but you, you, you misunderstand what I'm saying. The after-party is at 11 o'clock. I said, yeah, okay, I got all that. Lori gotta be home at 10:30, she 15, she gonna take that. He said, Mr. Harvey, but it's right upstairs.

• 56:56Speaker 04

  I said, right upstairs from where? He said, in the hotel.

• 57:02Speaker 04

  I said,

• 57:04Speaker 04

  little motherfucker, you,

• 57:07Speaker 04

  are you telling me that you taking my daughter upstairs in a hotel? That, that what you? I said, boy, there's no chance of me okaying no stuff like this. Now, what he don't know is, his ride to the prom is already taken care of. Cause my driver taking y'all to the prom. And my security gonna ride in the front seat. She gonna be in the car, she gonna be back house. I said, so are we clear about that? She's home. He said, yeah, Mr. Harvey says, anything else you need me to know? I said, yeah, just one thing, man. I said, just know this, whatever you do to her, I'mma do to you.

• 57:47Speaker 04

  I said, so if I look outside and y'all kissing real hard, when you come in here, me and you gonna kiss real hard.

• 57:58Ryan Clark?

  I'm stealing that.

• 57:59Speaker 04

  No, sir. Yeah. You feel me? I said, if anything else happen, we gonna do that too.

• 58:05Ryan Clark?

  Hey, I'd have told the driver, hey, drop me off at my house first. Hey, like right now.

• 58:10Speaker 04

  But the thing is, she was home at 10:15.

• 58:13Ryan Clark?

  As she's gotten older, Lori has obviously dated famously. How difficult, cause listen, both of my daughters are very pretty girls.

• 58:23Speaker 04

  Beautiful young women.

• 58:24Ryan Clark?

  When they post, I don't, I be trying to show love, cause you know, on social media, you don't love your daughter if you don't repost her. And I be scared to repost my daughter, cause I know a lot of like, football players and athletes and entertainers follow me. And I don't want them sliding in DMs, cause you saw my daughter on my page. My son won't post either of them.

• 58:45Speaker 04

  I got you.

• 58:47Ryan Clark?

  As she's gotten older, and now you can't tell the men, I'mma do to you what you do to them. How difficult has it been to see Lori date now?

• 58:57Speaker 04

  It's, it's, it's hard, man. I ain't gonna lie, it's hard. I've had to swallow some things, you know? And I feel for her because she's in the public. You know, she's a brand ambassador, so she makes a really good living promoting products, wearing clothes, jewelry, makeup, skincare line, bikini line. I got it. But you know, man.

• 59:27Speaker 04

  See, I gotta be real careful because Lori, boy, she be in my ass. I can't make no mistakes. I can't make such... I saw one of her exes somewhere at a game somewhere and I shook his hand. Boy, I can't even touch his ass no more. I better not acknowledge him or look at him or nothing no more. So I'm off limits. If you a ex, your ass is my ex too. That's the rule. The rule in our house is any boy that's a ex, he's now my ex too. I must hate him like we was dating. It's been hard, man, because her life has had to be played out in the public eye. People don't understand when, like, you understand, you have attractive daughter that's in the light.

• 1:00:12Speaker 04

  It'll attract a certain...

• 1:00:15Ryan Clark?

  Demographic of men.

• 1:00:16Speaker 04

  Yeah, a certain cat, man. And cats that's got more, know that they got more to offer so they can come quicker. You know what I mean? So it's been difficult, man, watching her. But she's very smart. And everything they say online, I know is never true. I hate it for her. But I think she's figuring it out now. I hope. And I think she's learned from her mistakes like you want your children to learn from their mistakes. But she's an adult. And I don't get a say-so in it. I just get a, you know... Everybody come to the house is nice. "Oh, man, Mr. Harvey. Thank you so much for this opportunity." You right, I can't say you taking her to the prom if I catch you kissing her because they already know they kissing.

• 1:01:00Speaker 04

  So that can't happen. But when she was 15, kiss her now.

• 1:01:06Ryan Clark?

  You do Celebrity Family Feud too. And I wanted to ask you about what I think is one of the funnier moments on the show. You know, you mentioned guys who could offer more and different things. Stefan Diggs was on the show. And it's the end of the show and it said, "Leave it." And his answer was, "In."

• 1:01:25Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:01:27Ryan Clark?

  And you said, and when they revealed it, you said, "See, all your homeboys said that's your damn problem." When you have an athlete like that that says something like that, how do you gauge what reaction works? Because your reaction to say, "Hey," and they say that's your damn problem, was probably the perfect thing to say to something like that, because you know exactly what he was thinking.

• 1:01:51Speaker 04

  Yeah. You know, man, all of us improv is impromptu. I can't even remember half the stuff. Celebrity Family Feud, my favorite thing is when the athletes come on, because I know all of them. Because I'm a fan. I'm a fan of your sport. I'm a fan of basketball. Now, if they bring baseball players on, probably ain't gonna know who they is. You know, unless you bring on Barry Bonds or... What's the dude that used to pitch for the great reliever for New York that retired?

• 1:02:20Ryan Clark?

  Mariano Rivera.

• 1:02:21Speaker 04

  Mariano Rivera. He was on the show. And they said, "Name a word that rhymes with yummy." And he said, "My yummy."

• 1:02:32Speaker 04

  And man, I screamed. I couldn't breathe. I had to walk off the set. Because he's that. I said, "Name a word that rhymes with yummy." He said, "My yummy." And I went, "God, dawg."

• 1:02:47Speaker 04

  And that was the only... But athletes are my favorite ones on the show, because I know Shaq, they'll come on. Everybody with a gold jacket, I know. I know them. You seen the Netflix special on the Cowboys?

• 1:03:00Ryan Clark?

  Yeah. You didn't see it? They just love some Jerry.

• 1:03:04Speaker 04

  Have you seen it?

• 1:03:05Ryan Clark?

  All the bits and pieces.

• 1:03:06Speaker 04

  I've seen the whole thing. And you know, I'm from Cleveland, right? So the Browns and the Cowboys were in the North Division. See, I've been watching football before there was an AFC and NFC. I've seen every Super Bowl. I've never missed a Super Bowl. I've seen every last one of them. I've been watching sports since I was a little boy. I saw the Browns in the championship game against the Colts in 64 with my daddy. The Cowboys, I always hated them because they were in the North Division with the Browns. So I hated the Dallas Cowboys. I didn't care what. Fast forward, I own a comedy club down in Dallas, Texas.

• 1:03:49Speaker 04

  All the Cowboys used to come through there. Emmett, Michael, Nate, all the boys. Prime, everybody came through the club. So we've had a great relationship, man. Them were the coolest dudes, man. But I hated the Dallas Cowboys. I've always loved the players. And then me and Prime had a house across the street from each other. I was over at the house with Prime one day talking here. You knew it was his house because he had Prime on the gate.

• 1:04:23Speaker 04

  So we standing there talking. And we stayed in this division called Willoughbyan Country. It's 55 homes of the biggest houses, probably second wealthiest community outside of Richland Hills in Dallas. And the house across the street from Deion was massive, man. I'm talking about massive, 30,000 square feet. It was huge. And me and Deion was standing out there, man. And Deion said, man, what's your favorite house? And I said, Ed, what? I said, man, do you know him? You met him? He said, no. And we said, man, what do he do? I know what I do. I'm on TV. I know what Prime do.

• 1:05:06Speaker 04

  He a professional athlete. Who bought that house? As soon as we said it, a convertible Mercedes pulled out and it was a white guy in it. He turned the corner, he looked and he said, oh my God, oh my God. And he slammed the brakes and got out the car. He said, my two favorite people, Steve Harvey and Deion Sanders. Man, I've been watching you on Showtime at the Apollo. Man, your shows are great. I love you. Deion, I'm a big fan. So we, see, gets autographs. You know, wasn't no phone cameras back then. So then he settled down. Deion said, hey, man, hey, hey, hey, hey. Let me ask you a question. What do you do? He said, who, me? Nah, just got a job. He said, no, what kind of job you do?

• 1:05:50Speaker 04

  He was the CEO of Frito Lay.

• 1:05:55Speaker 04

  He ain't play no sports. He ain't shoot no baskets. And I be, and I thought about this, man. As much money as they play you, pay you to play sports, as much money as they pay me to be on TV, they're not paying you more money than they're making. Because that's not a good business model. So, I'm saying all that to say, you know, I know they got rid of Parsons and that. That was just crazy to me. But I watched the special, man, and I saw some inside stuff. It's really a dope special. I, I love Jerry Jones, man, and the way he is with some of the players, how he kept Michael around and supported him all like this. And I love what he's done with his family to leave this for his family

• 1:06:39Speaker 04

  and how his sons feel about one day his father ain't gonna be here at a really emotional moment. But, I still hate the Dallas Cowboys.

• 1:06:49Ryan Clark?

  He said, he said, I said, all that to say, I still hate them.

• 1:06:53Fred Taylor?

  Yeah, I actually thought you was gonna say you was a 49ers fans, 'cause I'm looking at Richard and, um, I don't know, man. What's your favorite Richard in the room?

• 1:07:03Speaker 04

  That one over there?

• 1:07:04Fred Taylor?

  That one?

• 1:07:05Speaker 04

  Richard Pryor. Richard Pryor, man, was like the king of all of this.

• 1:07:10Ryan Clark?

  You guys were the kings of comedy. Who are your kings of comedy?

• 1:07:16Speaker 04

  If I had to have a Mount Rushmore?

• 1:07:19Ryan Clark?

  Oh, man.

• 1:07:20Speaker 04

  First of all, Pryor.

• 1:07:22Fred Taylor?

  Sit up for this one.

• 1:07:24Speaker 04

  Pryor is a statue all by himself. There's nobody belongs on a rock next to him. Pryor is a statue all by himself in the world of comedy. The only other person that gets a statue alone by himself is Eddie Murphy. He just gets one by, and it's not just his stand-up. It's the hundred million dollar movies. Do you know that no one has made more hundred million dollar movies than him? Except Tom Hanks. He the only person ever made more hundred million dollar. That damn Eddie boy. So they hit a rock by theyself. My Mount Rushmore is, I have one for the public and one for me. My Mount Rushmore is Saturday Night Live. I never laughed so hard in my life, man.

• 1:08:09Speaker 04

  I've sat with Saturday Night Live and I'm talking about, man, peed on myself.

• 1:08:15Speaker 04

  And I've been with Seth since 89, man. TV shows, The Kings. He's just the funniest human being I've ever been around. Earthquake is the other funniest cat I've ever been around in real life, and J. Anthony Brown. Those are the three funniest dudes in the world to me. On stage, they not gonna get the popularity of most people, but I laugh for a different reason. Now, here's the guys that's the ones that the public would get and understand. Chris Rock is on that rock. Dave Chappelle is on that rock, man. And then it get real, it get real foggy after that.

• 1:09:00Speaker 04

  It get real.

• 1:09:01Channing Crowder?

  It's one more.

• 1:09:02Speaker 04

  It's two more on the rock.

• 1:09:04Channing Crowder?

  But there's one more that's not foggy, and he was a king of comedy.

• 1:09:08Speaker 04

  Well, see, hold up, that's different though, because he gonna get on the rock. Bill Cosby is on that rock, because he's the most prolific stand-up to ever live. He had over 20 comedy albums. I don't think people understand how dope this dude really was. And then, for me, on that rock is The Kings.

• 1:09:33Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, they all, yeah.

• 1:09:34Speaker 04

  The Kings is on the rock, to me.

• 1:09:37Ryan Clark?

  I agree.

• 1:09:38Speaker 04

  And you know why, man? Because they did something that had never been done before.

• 1:09:44Speaker 04

  And it hasn't been done since, until 85 South. And 85 South has done something, man, I didn't think would ever be done. They put an improv troupe of comedians together and made it work, and I thought that would never work. So my rock up there is Cosby, you know, Rock, Chappelle, and The Kings.

• 1:10:06Ryan Clark?

  I love that.

• 1:10:07Speaker 04

  But Eddie and Richard is peeks by theyself.

• 1:10:13Ryan Clark?

  Raw and Delirious still to this day are things I re-watch every year on the plane. Every single year. And you could never do that today, though. You couldn't do either of those today.

• 1:10:23Speaker 04

  No, you can't do nothing. I can't do the first joke I wrote. The first joke I ever wrote as a stand-up in 85 was about AIDS. I wrote an AIDS joke. Bet it's funny.

• 1:10:33Ryan Clark?

  I just started laughing thinking about, hey, I just started laughing.

• 1:10:37Speaker 04

  In eighty-five.

• 1:10:38Fred Taylor?

  You can't joke about the AIDS in the eighties.

• 1:10:40Speaker 04

  No, in eighty-five, it was killing. They was, they was throwing beer at me. They was laughing so hard. He said it was killing. I wrote, I wrote an AIDS joke. That AIDS joke would cost me my entire career today.

• 1:10:54Ryan Clark?

  I think you should just get to the biggest pivot.

• 1:10:56Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:10:56Channing Crowder?

  Get to the biggest. Hold on, I got one more. One more quick, I gotta ask him one more quick one. Cause we were just with Lavelle Crawford. And they was talking about, there was something online about you stealing jokes. And Lavelle Crawford told me I stole the mama's dick joke from him, which I never heard him tell the mama's dick joke. I go from a racial standpoint. My daddy's a big black dude, my mama's a little white lady. I saw my, my daddy walking around in the house naked when I was a kid and I always thought I'd catch up to him and I never did. So I must have my mama's dick. It's a funny joke.

• 1:11:28Ryan Clark?

  Look at his face.

• 1:11:31Speaker 04

  Hey man, he said I must have my mama's dick? God damn.

• 1:11:35Channing Crowder?

  My daddy had a slug and I, it, it, mine never extended.

• 1:11:39Speaker 04

  I could never have said that.

• 1:11:40Channing Crowder?

  It's a good joke.

• 1:11:42Speaker 04

  About your mama? Man, boy, do you know, woo, I got tight. Hey man, that's the one subject. At sixty-eight years old, that I fight instantly.

• 1:11:55Channing Crowder?

  What's that?

• 1:11:55Speaker 04

  If you say anything about Illos Vera Harvey. My mama, and my mama been gone twenty-eight years. Cause I still cry about her, man. If you say, oh dog, it'd be some days, man, it just hit me, you know? My mom been dead twenty-eight years, man. But it was the most crushing, nothing's ever happened to me like that, dang. My mama's death was the most crushing day of my life. It was worse than homelessness in anything I've ever seen. The, when I lost her, man, I didn't know what I was gonna do. So, I got in a fight in Detroit. I'm talking about after the kings of comedy.

• 1:12:37Speaker 04

  I'm, I was at a skating rink with the radio show doing something. And I was walking through the skating rink and Detroit had big love for me, man. Steve, my man, what's up right here? Why don't you come skating? I used to could skate, but I know, don't, don't do this. I had them big ass suits on. It, it wouldn't be like. And a dude said, hey, man, let me hold it for a minute. I said, I ain't got time, man. And then, man, fuck, you ain't, we ain't never got time. Yeah. Your fat ass mama, just out of nowhere. Bruh, I without thought spun, go boom. I had my bodyguard with me. He couldn't get to me fast enough. I lit his ass up, man.

• 1:13:16Channing Crowder?

  On sight.

• 1:13:17Speaker 04

  I was in there swinging at a roller skating rink. Grown ass man, got money.

• 1:13:22Channing Crowder?

  In a suit.

• 1:13:22Speaker 04

  Famous suit rich.

• 1:13:24Channing Crowder?

  Suit.

• 1:13:25Speaker 04

  Fighting at a skating rink. And nobody else was in the skating rink fighting but my hood ass. Cause he said, man, your fat ass mama. Uh-uh.

• 1:13:34Channing Crowder?

  You can't do it.

• 1:13:35Speaker 04

  Uh, no.

• 1:13:36Ryan Clark?

  He, he lost his father recently and he actually asked a guy, Trent Shelton, on our show about it, who had lost his mother. And he, and he basically said, he was like, it never goes away.

• 1:13:48Channing Crowder?

  When, when does it stop? Cause like I be driving and the lighter turned green and I still say, appreciate it, Randy. And he died six months ago?

• 1:13:58Speaker 04

  Six months?

• 1:13:59Channing Crowder?

  Seven months ago?

• 1:14:00Speaker 04

  Nah, bro. I don't, it's 28 years.

• 1:14:04Channing Crowder?

  And you still, if something goes right in your life, you still think about your mama?

• 1:14:09Speaker 04

  Man, my mother, my father. Because you know, you know how much they gave you, man? And what they left you with is with you and you know it's from there. Sometimes when I laugh, I, I hear my father. That's, that's my daddy's laugh, man. That's my brother's laugh. My brother gone and my daddy gone. And man, I just don't know how, like you'll get better at it. My mom had been gone about three years and I was with this girl down in Atlanta. We was eating. And they had a big clock with the date on it. And all of a sudden the date popped up and it said March 27th. And that's my mother's birthday. And I looked at the clock.

• 1:14:49Speaker 04

  And man, tears just start coming down my face. She said, Steve, what's wrong? I said, nothing. She said, no, no, what's wrong? I said, it's crazy. I just looked at the clock, it's my mama's birthday. She said, how long has your mother been deceased? I said, three years. She said, and you still crying? I said, is your mom still living? She said, yeah. I said, okay. You don't know. You don't know. Cause, bro, I'm gonna tell you, man, it's like a it's unexplainable. That's why people, I see people at odds with their mom. I be going, man, you need to go fix this. You go fix it with your mom, man. Cause when she leave this world, man. I tell you what's, what hurts you.

• 1:15:33Speaker 04

  Your father's name was Randy. This is the quote that I learned that helped me with my father's death. And I couldn't understand why it was beating me up so bad. When a man's father dies, he realizes that the one man who truly wanted him to be better than him is gone. Your father is the only man that has ever wanted you to be better than him. There ain't another man living want you to be better than him. Bruh. I've never heard that. There's no one. Your father is the only man who wanted you to be better than him. I love you, man, but I don't want you to be better than me. Ryan crazy about you, but he ain't finna want you to be better than.

• 1:16:18Speaker 04

  That's real. Your father wants you to be better than him. And when he dies, you realize it. And what the part that fucked me so bad was, ah, man, I don't feel like crying today. Man. The only thing. How about that? Listen, man.

• 1:16:41Speaker 04

  I, I didn't have nobody. When my daddy died, I didn't have nobody to say they was proud of me.

• 1:16:58Speaker 04

  That fucked me up.

• 1:17:01Speaker 04

  Cause you know my dad.

• 1:17:07Speaker 04

  He used to call me and say, "Man, I'm so proud of you."

• 1:17:13Speaker 04

  And when he died, man, nobody said that to me no more.

• 1:17:20Speaker 04

  Nobody.

• 1:17:23Speaker 04

  And it's kinda crazy, man.

• 1:17:26Speaker 04

  Until I married Marjorie, nobody said they was proud of me.

• 1:17:31Speaker 04

  My wife, the only person say she proud of me, man. Only person. So loser, that's what the fuck part for me was with him.

• 1:17:44Speaker 04

  Cause man, like, he would, I would get him tickets. He came to all my shows, like, flying out. My mother never saw me. Cause she was, she ain't wanna hear me cussing.

• 1:17:55Speaker 04

  So my mother never saw me. My dad, even if the show was sold out, I'd make him take a foldaway chair and pop it up for him and my brother. And, uh, my dad would sit down there.

• 1:18:08Speaker 04

  And he was sitting next to this lady one time, she said, "Oh, well, you must be special, sir. They didn't put a foldaway chair in there." He said, "Yeah. You know that boy that finna come out here, Steve Harvey? That's my son. All these niggas in here done paid to see that boy right here."

• 1:18:26Speaker 04

  And my father would sit there, man. And I sent him money all the time, man. I used to send him ten thousand. Every week, every month, send him money. My mother said, "Your daddy go down there with that check in his pocket with his gun?" And everybody was trying to say, "Mr. Harvey, where is you getting all this money from? You seen the TV show? The Steve Harvey Show?" They say, "Yeah, that's my boy right there." And that, that, all that gave me the juice I needed.

• 1:18:58Speaker 04

  When he left, man, it fucked me. Really fucked me.

• 1:19:04Fred Taylor?

  Well, Steve, man, um, he was going through it too. But if we can say we proud of you, man, everything you do for the back community, I mean on some real shit.

• 1:19:16Fred Taylor?

  With Rashad and Troy and Invest Fest, Earn Your Leisure, the kids camp, the mentoring stuff, even after all the shows, trying to speak life into people. Like, that means a lot. And from a distance, I've always admired that about you. You have your funny, but then you have like where you try to really speak life into people. Like, this, this is what it's about. So, the question is this, because we ask all of our guests, their biggest pivot in life. That's that one moment you can look back on and say, because this happened to me or for me, this is why I am who I am today.

• 1:19:50Speaker 04

  Probably the biggest moment for me was that moment I had described to you, man, where I was finna call my father and give up.

• 1:19:59Speaker 04

  That moment of almost giving up, that was such a valuable lesson, that I had taken myself almost to extinction. I had taken myself to where I had had enough. I was up to here, I couldn't do no more, I couldn't take no more, man. I ain't got no more, which defies, which was another crazy thing about my father. You know what my father told me, man? He said, "Son."

• 1:20:29Speaker 04

  I used to work construction with him, and I said, "Dad, I'm tired." He said, "We gonna do this here." And I said, "Well, just keep going, boy." I said, "Dad, I'm tired, just keep going." I said, "But dad, I'm out, man. I can't do no more." He said, "Son, listen to me. When you've done all you can, and you can't do no more, do some more." And I be sitting there going, "Hey, man, did you not hear me say I'm done? I have no more?" "Yeah, I heard that."

• 1:20:58Speaker 04

  But when you've done all you can, you can't do no more. Do some more. And that instilled in me that there's always a little bit more. So the moment, man, that I was finna give up and call my father, and I got that call on the answering machine, it restored my faith. That God is with you, even when you don't feel Him or see Him or you don't think. God is with you at your darkest moment, and He's never late. It might take a while, but God ain't ever been late. And He's a right-on-time God. And that moment, man, when I called back there, and he said, "You got it for Sunday night", and I realized I had thirty-five dollars and I wasn't gonna make it, and I called back,

• 1:21:42Speaker 04

  and he said, "Sunday night", and I went, "Dog, I ain't even gonna be able to get there". And I called again, and they had a gig for me. Had I not called back to check, had I not took the gig, had I not felt like giving up, I never would've made the call. Had I not called, I never would've got the gig. If I never got the gig, I never would've been able to fly to the Apollo. If I never had flew to the Apollo and put that plastic bag on my head, none of this would've happened. When I went to the Apollo and did that Mike Tyson eye joke, I wrote that joke on the way. That joke threw me into the stratosphere.

• 1:22:27Speaker 04

  And that was the biggest pivot in my darkest moment, when I was about to give up.

• 1:22:34Speaker 04

  That light called Christ, God Almighty, never failed me yet, showed up, man, and just boom. And that launched all of this that is me today.

• 1:22:48Ryan Clark?

  Man, thank God for old-school answering machines. And Jesus Christ showing up on time.

• 1:22:54Speaker 04

  You have another message.

• 1:22:57Ryan Clark?

  I am so grateful, like, you know, and I just kept telling you through text, but I want to be able to tell you face to face, we are proud of you. We all need you. And just like I said, a simple text message from you when I was driving home, thinking about next moves and what I need to do and perceptions of people, let me know that I was on the right path. And I think as long as you keep being you, as long as you keep doing that, as long as you keep giving back, there's a whole bunch of people that are proud of you that probably never get to say it. So, thank you for sitting with us, man. We're so grateful. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. Appreciate you, man. That was amazing. No, man, I appreciate it. I really appreciate you. Freddie, my man. Really appreciate it. I need your number, man. Appreciate you, G. I don't know, baby.