E554 Joe Rogan

Joe Rogan is a comedian, podcaster, and UFC commentator. He is the host of the biggest podcast in the world, “The Joe Rogan Experience”, and also owns the Comedy Mothership in Austin, TX. Joe Rogan joins Theo to talk about drones vs. aliens, if anyone will be able to stop government corruption, and what Joe wants to do with his time when he’s done podcasting. Joe Rogan: https://www.instagram.com/joerogan ------------------------------------------------ Tour Dates! https://theovon.com/tour New Merch: https://www.theovonstore.com ------------------------------------------------- Sponsored By: Celsius: Go to the Celsius Amazon store to check out all of their flavors. #CELSIUSBrandPartner #CELSIUSLiveFit https://amzn.to/3HbAtPJ Prize Picks: First time users, download the PrizePicks app, use code THEO and PrizePicks will instantly give you $50 on your first lineup of $5 or more. No strings attached. Put in $5 and instantly get a free $50. Moonpay: Head over to http://moonpay.com/theo to sign up. Rocket Money: Go to http://rocketmoney.com/theo to cancel your unwanted subscriptions with Rocket Money. Shopify: Go to http://shopify.com/theo to sign up for your $1-per-month trial period. ShipStation: Go to http://shipstation.com and use code THEO to sign up for your free trial. NetSuite: Go to http://netsuite.com/theo to download the CFO’s Guide to AI and Machine Learning for FREE. ------------------------------------------------- Music: “Shine” by Bishop Gunn Bishop Gunn - Shine ------------------------------------------------ Submit your funny videos, TikToks, questions and topics you'd like to hear on the podcast to: [email protected] Hit the Hotline: 985-664-9503 Video Hotline for Theo Upload here: https://www.theovon.com/fan-upload Send mail to: This Past Weekend 1906 Glen Echo Rd PO Box #159359 Nashville, TN 37215 ------------------------------------------------ Find Theo: Website: https://theovon.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/theovon Facebook: https://facebook.com/theovon Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thispastweekend Twitter: https://twitter.com/theovon YouTube: https://youtube.com/theovon Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheoVonClips Shorts Channel: https://bit.ly/3ClUj8z ------------------------------------------------ Producer: Zach https://www.instagram.com/zachdpowers Producer: Nick https://www.instagram.com/realnickdavis/ Producer: Cam https://www.instagram.com/cam__george/ Producer: Colin https://instagram.com/colin_reiner Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Theo Von?

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• 0:41Theo Von?

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• 1:20Theo Von?

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• 2:04Theo Von?

  He is the biggest podcaster in the world. I am thankful for him and Jamie for welcoming me here. The first half of this episode was on his channel, and the second half of the episode is here now. Today's guest is the powerful Joe Rogan.

• 2:39Theo Von?

  Thanks, man. Nice to see you, bro.

• 2:41Speaker 01

  Good to see you too.

• 2:42Theo Von?

  Yeah, man.

• 2:42Speaker 01

  We had a fun time. We were just talking about how if we had a camera on us when we were in Vegas having dinner a couple of weeks ago, that one night, bro, we were so silly. We were dying laughing.

• 2:53Theo Von?

  After UFC?

• 2:54Speaker 01

  Dying laughing.

• 2:55Theo Von?

  Yeah, your buddies were there. One of them, there was pro, um, pool, pool players?

• 2:59Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 2:59Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 3:00Speaker 01

  Jeremy Jones and Carl Boyce.

• 3:01Theo Von?

  And they were, they had been swimming in a pool of beer. They'd been playing in a deep end of a pool of beer.

• 3:08Speaker 01

  They were there for six hours of the fights drinking.

• 3:11Theo Von?

  They were cooked.

• 3:12Speaker 01

  Cause they got there with me, so they started watching the fights at like 3:30 PM.

• 3:17Theo Von?

  Yeah. Oh, during that Chris Wyman fight, one of them kept yelling hole in one over and over again.

• 3:22Speaker 01

  Really?

• 3:22Theo Von?

  Yeah, I knew that they were fucking in.

• 3:23Speaker 01

  Hole in one?

• 3:24Theo Von?

  Yeah, I mean, they were just getting pretty cooked up.

• 3:27Speaker 01

  Well, that's unfortunate.

• 3:30Theo Von?

  Yeah, dude, that was fun. That dinner was fun. It was fa- that place was fancy in there. Um, but it was a good time. Man, you just got back from Scotland?

• 3:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:40Theo Von?

  Well?

• 3:43Theo Von?

  How was it?

• 3:44Speaker 01

  It's cold as shit. Beautiful.

• 3:47Theo Von?

  Did they talk to you like that? Oh, Joel?

• 3:48Speaker 01

  They talk like that, yeah. Yeah, I don't want to do an impression of it. I'll fuck it up, but I like it over there. It's beautiful.

• 3:55Theo Von?

  Would you, like, was there?

• 3:57Speaker 01

  I think that it's like, it's one of the most beautiful places, but it's like very lightly populated. I almost don't want to talk about it because it's so cool, because there's not a lot of people there.

• 4:07Theo Von?

  Oh, yeah.

• 4:08Speaker 01

  But it's also, there's like some shit there that's so old. They had, uh, some guide stones on this property. And, uh, they said, I go, how old are these things? They're like thousands of years old. We don't even know. Don't know who put them there. Don't know why they're there. So these like 4,000, 5,000 year old stones that are sticking out of the ground. They have a stone circle there that's older than Stonehenge. It's crazy.

• 4:30Theo Von?

  Yeah. Yeah, Stonehenge is crazy, dude. I remember when, um, in school, they would teach us like, Stonehenge, it's crazy. Who knows what happened, you know?

• 4:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:39Theo Von?

  Like Smurfs, aliens, like they had all this crazy shit they would teach you. And then-

• 4:43Speaker 01

  They taught you about that in school?

• 4:44Theo Von?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 4:45Speaker 01

  Smurfs?

• 4:46Theo Von?

  Or just everybody didn't know what it was about, right? But then-

• 4:49Speaker 01

  Stonehenge is by Smurfs?

• 4:50Theo Von?

  Fucking-

• 4:51Speaker 01

  Jamie, did you get that in Ohio? Did they teach you that?

• 4:54Speaker 02

  I learned about it all at the same time, like, probably.

• 4:55Theo Von?

  Yeah, this is during the eighties, bro, early nineties. And, um, but then we went there one time, we were touring, and we drove by, and literally, they had an exit for Stonehenge, and it was just right there. It was like a rest area. It was just like right off the highway.

• 5:09Speaker 01

  And when you went there, was it impressive?

• 5:11Theo Von?

  No, it was like, I was impressed, because I'd learned, they didn't give a fuck. There's like people over there just like changing their kids in front of it and stuff on the ground. Like, people didn't give a shit.

• 5:20Speaker 01

  And you could walk up to it and touch it, right?

• 5:22Theo Von?

  It's right there, dude. They had like a sign that was like, um, I don't even think it said, "Please don't touch." It was like, just something more vague than that.

• 5:30Speaker 01

  Did you ever see the Georgia Guidestones?

• 5:32Theo Von?

  Mm-mm.

• 5:33Speaker 01

  The Georgia Guidestones were this thing that, I don't know if they know who built it. Do they know who funded that thing?

• 5:40Speaker 02

  I don't think so.

• 5:42Speaker 01

  So the-

• 5:43Speaker 02

  I don't think they ever found out.

• 5:43Speaker 01

  The Georgia Guidestones, somebody spent a lot of money to make these giant stone statues with the guides to how to keep a civilization intact. And then-

• 5:56Theo Von?

  Oh, like the rules?

• 5:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 5:57Theo Von?

  Oh, wow.

• 5:58Speaker 01

  Yeah. It's written in a bunch of different languages. So what is it lang- so somebody blew it up, man?

• 6:04Theo Von?

  No.

• 6:05Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. Let's it down the bottom. Somebody, um, somebody blew it up, and then they decided after the person blew up part of it to destroy it all. Which I don't understand that logic. Why they wouldn't just rebuild it? Why didn't you just rebuild it? So a mysterious monument meant to guide into an age of reason was destroyed after an apparent bombing.

• 6:25Theo Von?

  That's, and that right there is like a perfect example of existence, it feels like.

• 6:29Speaker 01

  How about just leave it there?

• 6:30Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 6:31Speaker 01

  Okay, June in 1979, a man going by the pseudonym of R.C. Christian approached the Elberton Granite Finishing Company with the task of building a monument. He said that no one was ever to know his true identity or that the group that he was representing, or the group that he of the group, or that of the group that he was representing. He seemed to have an endless supply of money to fund the project, and by the terms of the legal contract, all plans had to be destroyed after completion, and all information about him withheld from the public. So the stones were finished in 1980. They carry a tablet in the front proclaiming, "Let these be guide stones to an age of reason." Engraved in the stones are ten guidelines

• 7:12Speaker 01

  meant to reestablish the planet and society, perhaps after an apocalypse. They're written in eight different languages: English, Spanish, Swahili, Hindu, Hebrew, Arabic, Chinese, and Russian, amongst other commandments preached to "maintain humanity under 500 million in perpetual balance with nature." Wow. "Rule passion, faith, tradition, and all things with tempered reason." "Balance personal rights with social duties." Yeah. "Be not a cancer on the earth. Leave room for nature."

• 7:43Theo Von?

  Wow.

• 7:44Speaker 01

  Solid laws.

• 7:46Theo Von?

  Yeah, do you think?

• 7:47Speaker 01

  That's solid.

• 7:47Theo Von?

  Yeah, it seems like a great plan. Do you think that humanity is supposed to reach like this place where we kind of get it all figured out? Or do you think it's always just this constant ebb and flow of? Like?

• 7:59Speaker 01

  Well, I think-

• 8:00Theo Von?

  Step forward, step back, or two steps forward, step back?

• 8:03Speaker 01

  We were talking about on the podcast, like, what's happening in terms of like people slowly turning into genderless aliens.

• 8:11Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 8:11Speaker 01

  You know, I think, I think that's probably really what's going on. I don't think humanity ever gets together. I think humanity stops being humanity. Because I think what keeps us from getting it together, a lot of it, is if you think about the horrors of society, like violence, war, thievery, like stealing resources, all that stuff, imprisoning people, corruption, all those things are like, those are built-in primal behaviors in human beings, especially with unchecked- Power and I think that as long as we're just human beings, we're gonna have those things. We'll have less and less of them. We have way less now than we had during fucking King Henry the eighth. Like back during King Henry the eighth, you couldn't have a podcast, he would fucking kill you.

• 8:56Speaker 01

  When he wanted to get rid of his wives, he just chopped their fucking heads off.

• 8:58Theo Von?

  Oh.

• 8:59Speaker 01

  Give me get a new one. Get rid of her. Off with her head.

• 9:02Theo Von?

  You couldn't do that now.

• 9:03Speaker 01

  Right. Was it? Was it Henry the eighth that was off with their head?

• 9:07Speaker 01

  Wasn't he the guy? He had like a few of them.

• 9:10Theo Von?

  He would see it now, it would be, his wife would make a TikTok about it in a heartbeat. I feel like, or her sister would.

• 9:15Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. She would like that motherfucker. There was nothing wrong with her head. He said her head was cursed.

• 9:21Theo Von?

  Henry is lying.

• 9:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, nowadays are different, man. So there's like, that's like Steven Pinker's work. If you follow his work on violence and crime. People always wanna think that violence and crime is more now than ever before, but the reality is when you look at the course of human history, it's, there's never been a more, uh, safe time to be alive than right now.

• 9:44Theo Von?

  What do you think it looks like coming up? Do you think like people start to like, if, if fear, if like people continue to be so like full of fear? Do we, do people like resort back to like their tribal nature or what kinda starts to happen?

• 9:56Speaker 01

  They definitely do if the power goes out. The only thing that keeps society together is power. As soon as power goes out, you have no electricity, you have no cooling. So you can't stay in places where it's too hot and you can't live in places where it's too cold.

• 10:07Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 10:08Speaker 01

  You're in a bad spot there. So then if you're living in a place where it's too cold, you're heavily dependent upon firewood. So a big part of your day is getting firewood. You have to make sure you have enough. If you're living in Siberia, you have to have a fucking shit pile of firewood and you never let that fire go out.

• 10:24Theo Von?

  I'd get a bunch.

• 10:26Speaker 01

  Ever. You need to have a bunch.

• 10:27Theo Von?

  I would. I'd get there early.

• 10:28Speaker 01

  You gotta keep that fucking fire going, man. Cause if you're stuck out there and it's seventy degrees below zero, like you'll die.

• 10:36Theo Von?

  Dude, imagine you fall asleep and it fucking goes out and then you have to wake up the other people.

• 10:40Speaker 01

  And a lot of these guys aren't using matches to start fires either. Cause you know, that's one of the things that survivalists will tell you is like, you're gonna run out of matches. You should learn how to start a fire without matches. So you gotta learn how to start a fire with steel and flint and.

• 10:55Theo Von?

  I don't know how.

• 10:55Speaker 01

  It's fucking not easy, man. There's some fire starters you can get like. They're pretty good.

• 11:01Theo Von?

  Have you seen people do it? Like when you go hunting and stuff? You have?

• 11:03Speaker 01

  I've done it. Yeah. I've started fires with these little flint sticks. So it's like, um. It's like a piece of steel and a piece of flint. And there's these little things called fire starters. And some people make them too. One of the ways they make them is they take cotton balls, like cotton swabs.

• 11:19Theo Von?

  Uh huh.

• 11:20Speaker 01

  And they soak them in Vaseline. And so then you take tinder. So you have like, some people use steel wool.

• 11:29Theo Von?

  Oh yeah.

• 11:29Speaker 01

  They use different things that you can like, there's, you can, you can make it with like shavings and dry the shavings out. And then you slowly get little sparks onto those shavings and

• 11:41Speaker 01

  and then once you get it going, then you put some little sticks on, then you put some bigger sticks on, now you have a fire.

• 11:45Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 11:46Speaker 01

  And they say that you should know how to do that because you don't want to be on that last match going fuck, fuck. Like you have to know how to actually start a fire. The best way is with tools. I tried to start a fire when I was in the Boy Scouts with the bow.

• 11:59Theo Von?

  Mm hmm.

• 12:00Speaker 01

  I don't know if you ever did that one, but like there's a stick and you wrap.

• 12:02Theo Von?

  Oh yeah, and you do it like that or whatever?

• 12:04Speaker 01

  Back and forth and back and forth.

• 12:04Theo Von?

  That cotton eye Joe or whatever?

• 12:06Speaker 01

  I got it to smoke. I got blackness came out of it. I never got a fire.

• 12:09Theo Von?

  Damn.

• 12:10Speaker 01

  I never got it to the point where I could like light something on fire there.

• 12:13Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 12:14Speaker 01

  But I was also dumb. I didn't realize you gotta like put little tiny pieces of wood down in there. Once it starts going, then blow on it. I didn't, I was, I thought it was a fire was gonna get going.

• 12:24Theo Von?

  Just fucking go, huh?

• 12:25Speaker 01

  I thought that thing was gonna light fire eventually. Yeah, it didn't, didn't.

• 12:29Theo Von?

  What, um, in Scotland, do you see any good, um, music? ACDC's from Scotland.

• 12:34Speaker 01

  Oh yeah.

• 12:35Theo Von?

  That's what I was thinking of earlier when we were talking. For those No, that's not them.

• 12:41Theo Von?

  Is that them?

• 12:45Theo Von?

  ACDC is?

• 12:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, you son of a bitch.

• 12:47Theo Von?

  Uh, they keep changing it. They keep changing it.

• 12:54Speaker 01

  They keep changing it. It's like Berenstain Bears, you know? It's like the Mandela effect.

• 12:59Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 12:59Speaker 01

  That's what it is.

• 13:00Theo Von?

  What, um, yeah, what's a famous band that is from Scotland then?

• 13:03Speaker 01

  Take that back. Two of the members are from Glasgow, so.

• 13:06Theo Von?

  Oh.

• 13:08Speaker 01

  Jimmy came at you hard there.

• 13:10Theo Von?

  Uh.

• 13:11Speaker 01

  Came at you a little hard there.

• 13:12Theo Von?

  What else do they sing? ACDC?

• 13:14Speaker 01

  Long Way to the Top.

• 13:15Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 13:15Speaker 01

  Back in Black.

• 13:16Theo Von?

  Back in Black.

• 13:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, Hell's Bells. Yeah. Whole Lot of Rosie.

• 13:25Theo Von?

  I've heard that one, I don't think.

• 13:26Speaker 01

  Whole Lot of Woman. Yeah, you have, you have. Whole Lot of Rosie. You know that song.

• 13:32Theo Von?

  Maybe I have heard it.

• 13:33Speaker 01

  You never heard that song? Come on, son.

• 13:35Theo Von?

  Say it again?

• 13:36Speaker 01

  Listen, give me, give me a little Whole Lot of Rosie. You gotta hear this. You never heard this song? There's no way you never heard this song. This is a, this is a Bon Scott ACDC classic, the early days.

• 13:47Theo Von?

  Rock it, blah.

• 13:51Theo Von?

  That's the shit we used to listen to.

• 14:08Speaker 01

  About a woman I know.

• 14:11Speaker 01

  When it comes to loving.

• 14:14Speaker 01

  Steals the show.

• 14:17Theo Von?

  I never heard it.

• 14:17Speaker 01

  Pretty.

• 14:20Speaker 01

  And exactly small.

• 14:29Theo Von?

  That's crazy, dude.

• 14:33Theo Von?

  Come on! Those were the fucking days, dude.

• 14:36Speaker 01

  It's just picking up. Give me a little more. Oh, we're in trouble already. We're in trouble. It's your show. It's your show.

• 14:42Theo Von?

  That's true. We're in trouble, dude. Yeah, we're get, we, we, yeah, we probably won't be able to play that. Um, but what is it called?

• 14:49Speaker 01

  Hold it out. They will come for you. Um, did you see that Facebook, uh, put out new standards today for content moderation?

• 14:55Theo Von?

  No, I did see that they're supposed to, that, uh, that Dana White was doing something with Mark Zuckerberg.

• 15:02Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 15:02Theo Von?

  And that they were-

• 15:03Speaker 01

  He's a part of his board now.

• 15:04Theo Von?

  And that they were gonna allow more free speech. That's what they said.

• 15:07Speaker 01

  They're gonna allow more free speech and allow people to not be restricted to talk about things where hot button issues before. So, and they're gonna remove, they're gonna remove the content moderation for, uh, a type of community notes. Facebook and Instagram, get rid of fact checkers. The problem with fact checkers is, there's been a lot of fact checkers that were just wrong. And it's very ideologically based. Especially anything that has to do with climate change, or anything that has to do with vaccines, or anything that has to do with anything pharmacologically.

• 15:42Theo Von?

  Yeah, it says in a video posted alongside a blog post by the company on Tuesday, chief executive Mark Zuckerberg said third-party moderators were too politically biased, and it was time to get back to our roots around free expression. But do you think they're real? I wonder if there's something else going on, because I find it hard to believe they're really willing to give up that bias, you know?

• 16:01Speaker 01

  Well, it's probably not good for business to keep that bias. They're in a business, right? Their business is social media. And if Twitter sets a standard, which it clearly does, so Twitter is the most wild of all big platforms. You can get away with a lot of shit on Twitter.

• 16:16Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 16:17Speaker 01

  That has not been the case with Facebook or Instagram. And if Twitter continues to have the kind of engagement that it has, because it lets people go wild, and I know there's a lot of criticisms about even Twitter's content moderation, but everybody has to admit it's certainly better than everywhere else.

• 16:34Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 16:34Speaker 01

  It's like, there's a dispute now about whether or not people should be demonetized, right? Whether, if you're allowed to speak on the platform, if they can say, "You're saying things we don't like, we're gonna be able to take away your ability to make money." Well, you're kind of censoring people in a way. Because you're enforcing self-censorship. Because they're not gonna say those inflammatory things anymore, because then, then they need an Adrian Ditman account, right?

• 17:02Theo Von?

  Right.

• 17:04Speaker 01

  Talk some shit, blow a little steam off.

• 17:07Theo Von?

  Well, I wonder is-

• 17:07Speaker 01

  Talk a little shit about the government.

• 17:09Theo Von?

  Is AI, what if AI? But how do we know that the information in AI isn't being adjusted to fit whatever they wanted to say? Like, that's what I, one thing I always thought like-

• 17:19Speaker 01

  Well, it is. It certainly is. Like, that was the problem with Google's Gemini when it first came out. You know, Google's Gemini, when it first came out, they said, "Make images of Nazi soldiers." They had multicultural Nazi soldiers. Did you see that?

• 17:32Theo Von?

  Uh-uh.

• 17:32Speaker 01

  Oh, you have to see it. You have to see it, you're gonna freak out.

• 17:35Theo Von?

  They had all types of Nazi soldiers?

• 17:36Speaker 01

  They had black Nazi soldiers. They had a Native American Nazi.

• 17:39Theo Von?

  Oh, at least everybody was doing it.

• 17:40Speaker 01

  They had Chinese Nazis.

• 17:43Speaker 01

  So dumb, but it's like that's what you try to be woke and you attach it to everything. Look, oh, well, you're not representing reality. I said, show me Vikings, not Chinese midgets. Like, what are you doing? Like, what are you doing? Why? Why are you showing me this? Because it's woke is not reality. And if you do that with AI, like, look at this, look at those images.

• 18:05Speaker 01

  Look at that. It looks like guys from fucking Nigeria, the lower left hand corner. Look at the Native American lady with her braids. That's so crazy. That's a Nazi soldier.

• 18:14Theo Von?

  He's a cutie kind of.

• 18:15Speaker 01

  She is kind of cute. But look at that. That's nuts. So if that's artificial intelligence, that's not intelligent at all. You're ignoring the reality of what a Nazi looked like.

• 18:25Theo Von?

  Right, but you'd only need a couple of generations that it feels like to end up just brainwashing every, you know.

• 18:30Speaker 01

  A hundred percent.

• 18:31Theo Von?

  Like, that's the thing that's super scary. It's like, instead of controlling what people write, you control what the paper will say, right?

• 18:37Speaker 01

  One hundred percent.

• 18:38Theo Von?

  It's almost like controlling, um.

• 18:40Speaker 01

  He who controls the AI controls the narrative of the whole country. And it's going to be smarter than you and me. Like, you and me, if we have an opposition to something, maybe we could say it in a funny way. Maybe we can, like, relate to people because they know the way we think, but AI is going to be way better at communicating. So it's going to be like, we're going to look stupid. Like, have you ever had a debate with someone who's way smarter than you and they're making more points than you and you're stuck?

• 19:02Theo Von?

  Your episode of La Waga.

• 19:05Speaker 01

  It's frustrating, right? But you, you like, you're trapped and you're like, ah, fuck, I can't really articulate this as well.

• 19:12Theo Von?

  Most of my life is like that.

• 19:13Speaker 01

  Right. So imagine that, but with the smartest people in the world not being able to keep up. Because AI is going to literally be like, not just the smartest person in the world, but all of the smartest people in the world together.

• 19:27Theo Von?

  Wow, fuck. Yeah, that's it. I just worry then whoever controls that is going to control everything.

• 19:32Speaker 01

  Exactly. And these fucking eggheads that are running us towards the edge of the cliff have to do what they're doing because China's doing it and they're stealing our data for sure, you know?

• 19:42Theo Von?

  But let them have it. What are they getting?

• 19:44Speaker 01

  They're replicating our research. They're making AI as well. They're way ahead in a lot of stuff, man. Way ahead. China's way ahead in drone technology. Way ahead.

• 19:53Theo Von?

  But what is, somebody could, like, I, sometimes I, I guess with drone they can come and I guess eavesdrop, they can see what's going on.

• 20:00Speaker 01

  Commercial drones, okay, I don't know what the military has, and this was like a big subject of the Sean Ryan podcast the other day, do you know about this?

• 20:07Theo Von?

  Yeah, they had a guy on there who came through and said that, um, oh, that Liversburg guy?

• 20:12Speaker 01

  Um, the guy who supposedly blew himself up in the Tesla Cybertruck in front of Trump Tower.

• 20:20Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 20:20Speaker 01

  Right? So, there's a guy who came on the Sean Ryan podcast and said that this dude, Matthew Liversberger, is that how you say it? Uh, was, who apparently was on a television show 12 years ago with Tim Kennedy.

• 20:34Theo Von?

  Oh yeah, I saw that.

• 20:35Speaker 01

  Green Beret TV show where they did Green Beret shit.

• 20:37Theo Von?

  Pretty cool.

• 20:38Speaker 01

  Yeah. So, this guy, uh, wrote this manifesto, he sent this, uh, not, I wouldn't say a manifesto, but a statement. And in that statement, he had, there's no indication he was gonna blow himself up in that statement, by the way, the statement was just talking about what he knew. And what was the problem was that these Chinese drones are operating on this anti-magnetic technology and that we have this technology as well.

• 21:02Theo Von?

  Was that the stuff that the guy who came on here was talking about that time?

• 21:04Speaker 01

  Here's what he says, here's, he says, "What we've been seeing with drones is the operational use of gravitic propulsion systems powered by aircraft, mostly recently China in the East Coast, but throughout history, the US only. Uh, only we in China have this capability, our open location for this activity in the box is below, China has been launching them from the Atlantic from submarines for years, but this activity recently has picked up. As of now, it's just a show of force and they're using it similar to how they use the balloon for Signet and ISR, which are also part of the Integrated Comm System. There are dozens of these balloons in the air at any given time, so what, so what is, because of the speed and stealth of these unmanned AC,

• 21:48Speaker 01

  they are the most dangerous threat to national security that has ever existed, they basically have an unlimited payload capacity and can park it over the White House if they wanted, it's checkmate.

• 21:58Theo Von?

  Wow.

• 21:58Speaker 01

  The US government needs to give the history of this, how they're employing it and weaponizing it, how China is employing them and what the way forward is, China's poised to attack anywhere in the East Coast.

• 22:10Theo Von?

  Do you think that this is just, this seems to me also like a fear tactic?

• 22:15Speaker 01

  It could be, it could be, you know.

• 22:17Theo Von?

  Cause it feels big like that.

• 22:19Speaker 01

  When someone releases a letter like that and then blows themselves up where they don't have a chance to talk about it and shot himself in the head with a fucking Desert Eagle. You ever seen a Desert Eagle?

• 22:28Theo Von?

  Uh uh.

• 22:29Speaker 01

  It's a giant overkill of a gun. It's like a 50 caliber pistol. But is a Desert Eagle 50 caliber?

• 22:36Speaker 02

  Yes, I, I'll, they, I don't know, I mean, they found the Desert Eagle, I don't know if this officially said that's what was used.

• 22:42Speaker 01

  Oh, but didn't they say that he shot himself in the head?

• 22:44Speaker 02

  They said there was a gunshot wound to the head of the victim in the car.

• 22:48Theo Von?

  And it's the worst too because.

• 22:49Speaker 02

  They didn't even claim it was him yet.

• 22:51Speaker 01

  Right.

• 22:51Theo Von?

  Wow.

• 22:51Speaker 01

  They haven't even, no, because the DNA is so destroyed, I mean, he's cooked. So they have to, you know, sample DNA and then run it through a lab and then figure out if it's him.

• 23:00Theo Von?

  Fuck.

• 23:01Speaker 01

  They think, they believe it's him though.

• 23:03Theo Von?

  Right. It's so crazy how when something happens now, it's like, there's, we get the news so fast, right? And we get video footage of it, like we get a lot of things fast that you don't, you start getting so many ideas of what's happened and so many like angles and lanes and you've had two podcasts come out from different people before you even get anything from like the authorities, right?

• 23:25Speaker 01

  Right.

• 23:25Theo Von?

  But then you feel like you can't even trust the authorities anyway. It's so wild how we just, um, are having a piece, everyone is kind of piecing together for themselves what has happened every time.

• 23:34Speaker 02

  That's crazy.

• 23:35Speaker 01

  So that's, that shows what it actually looks like when a 50 caliber shoots a, a skull that's wrapped up in that ballistic shell.

• 23:42Theo Von?

  Show one more time? Can we show this?

• 23:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, watch this. Boom, it just gets destroyed. That's, it's an enormous round. I mean, it's, it's massive overkill to shoot yourself in the head with one of those. But the question is, why would you use a Cybertruck? Because one of the things about a Cybertruck is if you're trying to do damage, a Cybertruck is way more robust than most trucks. I mean, you can't even, they're bulletproof.

• 24:07Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 24:07Speaker 01

  Uh, you know, I should try to shoot an arrow through one of them out here.

• 24:10Theo Von?

  Yeah. Which is the worst thing ever to say about a vehicle, I drive, I have a Cybertruck. And it's the, because then everybody's like, oh, is it fucking bulletproof bitch? You know? They want to shoot at your truck. Everybody's like, yeah, look at this metal queer, people would yell at me and shit like, like what is going on?

• 24:26Speaker 01

  That's so weird.

• 24:26Theo Von?

  Just crazy, I mean, but people want to challenge it.

• 24:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, they don't like it. There's a lot of people that either love those things, I'm on that side, or hate him, that's my whole family.

• 24:35Theo Von?

  Oh yeah.

• 24:36Speaker 01

  They're fucking ew, they think they look gross.

• 24:39Theo Von?

  I feel a little embarrassed when I get out of it sometimes, or when I have to get back in it.

• 24:42Speaker 01

  It's a statement.

• 24:43Theo Von?

  Uh, I, well, I got it like five years. I wanted it so bad and you could put it on a hundred bucks and say you had one kinda, you know?

• 24:49Speaker 01

  I got one on order.

• 24:50Theo Von?

  Yeah, I got one on order, right? Everybody had one. But the thing that, um, you always feel like you're working for Lowe's, but you're never dropping off whatever you're supposed to drop off too.

• 24:58Speaker 01

  You feel like you're in a pickup truck?

• 24:59Theo Von?

  Yeah, I feel like I'm always like, uh, like I'm gonna-

• 25:01Speaker 01

  You are in a pickup truck, actually.

• 25:02Theo Von?

  It's a good point. I feel like I've always got a, um, washer dryer, but I've just don't know how to, it just, it has a feeling to it like I work for a Home Depot.

• 25:09Speaker 01

  And you're delivering stuff?

• 25:11Theo Von?

  Yeah, like I-

• 25:11Speaker 01

  Something heavy?

• 25:12Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 25:12Speaker 01

  Well, it's so heavy.

• 25:13Theo Von?

  I always, how was that feeling? That feeling of refrigerator, it feels like?

• 25:16Speaker 01

  Bro, if you get in an accident with that thing, you're gonna do something. Damage.

• 25:19Theo Von?

  Dude, I'll tell you what you don't wanna do is get stuck, uh, in rural Mississippi having to charge it, bitch. Yeah.

• 25:26Speaker 01

  No.

• 25:27Theo Von?

  During the holidays.

• 25:28Speaker 01

  Oh, no. What'd you do?

• 25:30Theo Von?

  Dude, well, first of all, I pull up and this-

• 25:32Speaker 01

  They must circle you with coyotes.

• 25:33Theo Von?

  It was crazy. People were coming by, looking at it, you know?

• 25:38Speaker 01

  Revving their engines from a distance, brum, brum.

• 25:40Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 25:40Speaker 01

  Challenging your technology.

• 25:41Theo Von?

  People were, like, women were like, who, who were like barren, were like rubbing their b****s against it and stuff. I get that, like, I remember, people were like, thinking it had magical powers. Some brother came right up, right? I had, I had the window cracked. He ordered two Black and Milds from me. Like, I was like, uh, uh. I was like, I'm just charging, like, let me get two Black and Mild, eh, you know? Like, I was in a, like, you can't even imagine where I, where I was. Town, probably, six hundred people.

• 26:08Speaker 01

  How did they have a charger?

• 26:09Theo Von?

  This one place had a charger. It was like an IGA.

• 26:12Speaker 01

  How long did it take you to charge that whole Cybertruck?

• 26:14Theo Von?

  It took me two hours to just get enough to get out of there, basically, which is-

• 26:18Speaker 01

  How many miles did you get with two hours where the charging?

• 26:20Theo Von?

  Um, I would bet I got forty miles.

• 26:23Speaker 01

  That's it?

• 26:24Theo Von?

  Yeah, it was, it was a tough, I mean, it took me half the day to get back to my mom's in Baton Rouge.

• 26:29Speaker 01

  See, that's the problem with long distance unless you go to a place that has like cities where they have the superchargers.

• 26:35Theo Von?

  Yeah, well, then when I drove back to Nashville, I hit like ones that had three hundred, uh, two fifty kilowatt hours. One has four hundred kilowatt hours. It was a Mercedes dealership.

• 26:43Speaker 01

  Wow, so how quick would that charge you up?

• 26:46Theo Von?

  That thing will charge you up, I bet, in about forty-five minutes.

• 26:49Speaker 01

  It's still-

• 26:49Theo Von?

  All the way to three hundred and twenty miles.

• 26:51Speaker 01

  That's still a long fucking time.

• 26:52Theo Von?

  Dude, I plugged it in at my buddy's house. It gave me two miles an hour. So in the mo- I woke up six hours later and had twelve miles.

• 27:00Speaker 01

  That's so crazy.

• 27:01Theo Von?

  Yeah, so that was, but that was just like a, like a lamp. Yeah.

• 27:04Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah, it takes a lot of electricity.

• 27:08Theo Von?

  No power to read by, basically.

• 27:10Speaker 01

  Do you really save money, though? Have you ever looked at that? Like, it's like, how much is he paying on gas versus how much does it cost for electricity?

• 27:17Theo Von?

  I don't think you really save any money. And especially if you have to charge on one of those trips, then it costs like, it's pretty expensive to charge up. Like, it's not more than gas, but it's probably half the price. Dude, and then this was the worst thing. So, in Louisiana, they put a couple chargers back behind this church's chicken, right?

• 27:32Speaker 01

  I like, you're like...

• 27:34Theo Von?

  Oh, I gotta tell you about this shit.

• 27:36Speaker 01

  You get some hand movements in your...

• 27:38Theo Von?

  Well, look, bro.

• 27:39Speaker 01

  As soon as you start doing this, like, I know you got a point.

• 27:43Theo Von?

  This was my holidays, dude, it was tragic. So, I get off, I get, they got a church's chicken, right? So, to drive, the chargers are behind a church's chicken for some reason. But there's no lane to just drive back to the charger. You have to get in the to-go lane of the church's chickens. You have to go in. So, there's a big line at the church's chicken, right? So, I get in line, I have to wait in line to go to the lady at the order thing. You know, it's like, take your order, uh, at the to-go order. And I'm like, I'm just going to the charger. So, then I go back there. And now I have to, like, meander back and forth, like, back and forth, to get my car to park. And there's hardly any room. Now, I'm just facing the people who are waiting in line to pick up their chicken. And there's two types of people in the world.

• 28:26Theo Von?

  There's like people that wait in line at a church's chicken in a drive-thru to get food, and people who, uh, have a electric vehicle, right? They're just... They're two different people.

• 28:37Speaker 01

  Very.

• 28:38Theo Von?

  Oh, so, all these people are like, and then I had to leave, right? So, I sit there and charge. I had to leave. Some lady is like, wouldn't let me back in line because she didn't want me getting her chicken, right? She's like, can't get my chicken. And I'm like, I fucking, I don't want your chicken, right?

• 28:56Speaker 01

  I'm just trying to get out of here.

• 28:57Theo Von?

  Just try, but there was no way to go around the line. Like, you had to get in the line to leave.

• 29:01Speaker 01

  That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of.

• 29:02Theo Von?

  So...

• 29:03Speaker 01

  So, you had to order chicken in order to use their electricity?

• 29:05Theo Von?

  No, but I had to promise a lady I was not gonna get her chicken, dude. I'll give you $11 not to ever fucking even get any chicken from this place.

• 29:14Speaker 01

  11?

• 29:16Theo Von?

  Or twenty seven or whatever. It just made me mad, dude. But anyway, just that whole, but just.

• 29:20Speaker 01

  How fast was that charger?

• 29:21Theo Von?

  That charger was pretty quick. It's two hundred fifty kilowatts an hour. Say about an hour, an hour and fifteen minutes you could charger.

• 29:26Speaker 01

  And you were ready to go? An hour and fifteen minutes?

• 29:28Theo Von?

  I got out of there pretty, I got out of there early. I cut out early. But it was just a lot, man.

• 29:32Speaker 01

  I love driving a Tesla around town because I know I'll be able to park it at home or park it here and charge it. But if I had to go on a road trip, I would be very nervous.

• 29:40Theo Von?

  Yeah, I would say not, do not do it. That's what I would say.

• 29:42Speaker 01

  Also, it's like, whatever the range is, like, let's say the range is three hundred sixty miles, not the way I drive.

• 29:48Theo Von?

  Yeah, you're not getting that. You're getting two twenty, two ten.

• 29:51Speaker 01

  When you accelerate on the highway, you're like, wee.

• 29:54Theo Von?

  Oh, I pulled it in with a charger with four or five miles left. Right into that bit.

• 29:59Speaker 01

  Then you're, that's like a pedestrian.

• 30:00Theo Von?

  I don't give a fuck, son.

• 30:01Speaker 01

  You're so close to being a pedestrian. You're like minutes on a wa- tic toc, tic toc, tic toc, tic toc. Only from being a pedestrian, only from walking until you run out of water, tic toc, tic toc, tic toc, tic toc, tic toc. You're four minutes away. Fuck that, dude.

• 30:17Theo Von?

  For those about to rock, fire.

• 30:20Speaker 01

  See this, you can call a tow truck, they can come with a tank of gas, like that.

• 30:24Theo Von?

  But that one, they'll just come.

• 30:25Speaker 01

  They show up, you tip the guy, thank you, brother, appreciate it. Where's the nearest gas station? He hooks you up, you pay for the gas, you pay for his service, you give him a tip, you drive to the gas station. Bro, that's a fifteen minute ordeal. You're good to go, filled up, you got fucking beef jerky, you get a Mountain Diet Mountain Dew.

• 30:44Speaker 01

  You're on the road, you got a bag of peanuts you're not gonna eat, you're on the road, son.

• 30:47Theo Von?

  Yeah, you gotta fucking, uh, you're riding in your truck again, you're gonna fart and huff it.

• 30:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, we're talking about farting in the earlier episode. Guys, I wonder if there's been a study on the drop in IQ from huffing your own farts driving trucks.

• 31:00Theo Von?

  It can't be good for you, or animals would do it. You know what I'm saying? You would see, I guess caved animals probably do it.

• 31:07Speaker 01

  It can't be good for you. Just can't be.

• 31:10Theo Von?

  No, because it's your body trying to say, no way, and then your nose is like, yeah, yeah.

• 31:14Speaker 01

  Yo, you know what's really bad for you? Scented candles.

• 31:17Theo Von?

  Really?

• 31:18Speaker 01

  Yeah. I was reading about this, um, they're trying to figure out why there's been an uptick in lung cancer from people that don't smoke. And they're trying to figure out what it is, and they think it's.

• 31:32Speaker 01

  There's a combination of factors, burning, uh, toxins, uh, some cooking oils when burned create like problems and people inhaling, like especially for prolonged periods of time, but also candles, like candles are not good for you. Those scented candles, you're getting a bunch of funky chemicals you're brewing. So if you have a one bedroom apartment, right? You got a little bedroom and you got like 10 candles in there because you like it, look it sexy. You know, you like to listen to fucking moody music, you know?

• 31:59Theo Von?

  You like to lay on your back and jerk off with your legs in the air like that?

• 32:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 32:04Theo Von?

  Like some weirdo?

• 32:05Speaker 01

  Yeah. Listen to PJ O'Rourke.

• 32:07Theo Von?

  Listen to Joel Osteen.

• 32:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, I wanna get moody.

• 32:16Theo Von?

  Dude, that has to be the craziest way to jerk off is laying on your back, legs in the air, right?

• 32:23Speaker 01

  Legs in the air, yeah. Asshole of God.

• 32:25Theo Von?

  God, that's crazy. Hold on. And some, one of my buddies like, yeah, sometimes I put a pillow under my butt. I'm like, what is that for?

• 32:32Speaker 01

  I don't even feel comfortable stretching like that when I'm alone. You know, I stretch like that when I'm alone. I lie on my back and I get both my ankles and I pull them down like this to work on my kicking flexibility.

• 32:43Theo Von?

  God damn, brother.

• 32:44Speaker 01

  I don't even feel comfortable doing that, but I'm by myself. Just me by myself.

• 32:48Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 32:49Speaker 01

  Stretching out my legs like this, like wee.

• 32:52Theo Von?

  That's hitchhiking for the devil right there, brother.

• 32:54Speaker 01

  That's what I'm saying. I'm giving off a message to the demons in the world.

• 32:57Theo Von?

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• 33:40Theo Von?

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• 37:15Theo Von?

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• 38:21Speaker 01

  Do you think demons are real?

• 38:23Theo Von?

  Oh, yeah, I believe that there's, I believe that there's good and evil.

• 38:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, I do too.

• 38:28Theo Von?

  And some of it, I believe, is might be our own individual wars, you know? And I believe that there could be a group war. I'm amazed that at a group level, we don't start to say, hey, this stuff is evil, and let's not do it, right? But I think that's where like temptation and all that comes in. And yeah, I think it's pretty fascinating. Sometimes I'll wake up with and look at my life as like, wow, this is a war I'm in. This is a, and I am the, the, the, the guy who's leading my vessel or whatever, you know?

• 38:59Speaker 01

  There is.

• 38:59Theo Von?

  Doing my best, you know, doing my best.

• 39:01Speaker 01

  That is kind of what it is. There's a lot of that, right? You're in a war of choices. You're in a war of decisions and you're a war of good behavior and detrimental and destructive behavior. And, you know, when, I mean, especially guys like you that have gone through periods of addiction, you know, that's always a war of temptation in your mind. There's always going to be that there. There's always going to be smelling salts.

• 39:28Theo Von?

  Oh, I'll hit it.

• 39:30Speaker 01

  There's always going to be smelling salts to bring you. This is, this is the dark road. This is, everybody wants to talk about gateway drugs. Oh, don't you bring out a new one, you son of a bitch?

• 39:41Theo Von?

  You gotta-

• 39:41Speaker 01

  This one's strong enough, Jamie. Let's check.

• 39:43Theo Von?

  Is that strawberry?

• 39:44Speaker 01

  No.

• 39:45Speaker 02

  I'm trying to find flavored ones.

• 39:46Speaker 01

  The thing is, they're so scary when they bring the new ones out. Like, I'm scared of the new ones. I'm scared, oh, this one's so strong. Oh, my god, this is so strong.

• 39:54Theo Von?

  Bro, I can already-

• 39:57Speaker 01

  Oh!

• 39:58Theo Von?

  Feel a little of that.

• 39:59Speaker 01

  God!

• 40:01Theo Von?

  Let me ride-

• 40:01Speaker 01

  You know what the difference is, Jamie?

• 40:02Theo Von?

  Let me ride that little bitch.

• 40:03Speaker 01

  You know what the difference is? This one, I kept this on it. I didn't even realize I was doing it. But I kept that on it, and then it was sealed.

• 40:11Theo Von?

  I'll lay on my back in sixty-nine, this thing, brother. It's already gonna be strong, Joe, quiet. Don't look at me when I do it.

• 40:17Speaker 01

  Hit it, hit it.

• 40:21Theo Von?

  I didn't get enough.

• 40:22Speaker 01

  You didn't get enough?

• 40:22Theo Von?

  Nope.

• 40:23Speaker 01

  Really? You didn't inhale, you got scared. You missed.

• 40:26Theo Von?

  You're right.

• 40:27Speaker 01

  Oh, my god! Oh, my god! No! No, you don't do that! You don't do that! What you just did scared everyone.

• 40:36Speaker 02

  Take a break. I'm sweating.

• 40:39Speaker 01

  I'm sweating too.

• 40:39Speaker 02

  Because of that.

• 40:40Speaker 01

  How are you? Are you okay? Bro, you just changed timelines.

• 40:46Speaker 01

  Because of you, Justin Trudeau resigned. Because of that!

• 40:50Theo Von?

  Give me another hit.

• 40:51Speaker 01

  Before that, before you did that, it was a different timeline. Trump didn't win. Trudeau didn't resign. Mark Zuckerberg didn't start doing jujitsu. That's part of what happened, by the way, I'll tell you. For a fact, Mark Zuckerberg started doing jujitsu, and nothing turns you into a libertarian like jujitsu.

• 41:09Theo Von?

  Really?

• 41:10Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. Yeah. Nothing turns you into a person who, like, really values hard work and discipline and, uh, struggle, like jujitsu.

• 41:21Speaker 01

  Because of exposure of character on a level that, like, there's not, nothing else is like it.

• 41:27Theo Von?

  Wow. I hadn't thought about that that much.

• 41:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, because you expose character in a way, uh, that it's almost impossible, even with other martial arts. Because with other martial arts, you can only spar so much, man. Believe me, because I sparred too much. You spar a lot, you get hurt. And you get hurt, eventually you get dinged up to the point where your brain is just not firing so well anymore.

• 41:48Theo Von?

  Mm-hmm.

• 41:48Speaker 01

  Like, I was reading this horrible, uh, story where they're talking about Parkinson's and, uh, Muhammad Ali's daughter was talking about how she remembers when she was young, when he fought Leon Spinks the second time, she could tell afterwards that he talked different.

• 42:02Theo Von?

  Oh.

• 42:04Speaker 01

  Oh, you know?

• 42:06Theo Von?

  It's gotta be tough for a kid, huh?

• 42:08Speaker 01

  Oh, my god.

• 42:09Theo Von?

  And you probably pretend that he doesn't because you don't wanna hurt his feelings or whatever.

• 42:12Speaker 01

  Well, you, you must be so scared if you're a kid and your father is a fighter. That has to be so terrifying.

• 42:17Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 42:18Speaker 01

  Especially watching, I've seen people that bring their kids to a fight and then they get flatlined. And you see the, the terror in the kid's eyes, where their father is fucking laid out unconscious, bleeding from his mouth, and a doctor's holding his head up and his feet are twitching.

• 42:35Theo Von?

  Yeah, and sometimes the kid doesn't even know if the dad won or not, he's still cheering and you're like, this is, does he make any sense? This kid is crazy.

• 42:42Speaker 01

  Well, that kid might have other problems. That kid might be already sparring already.

• 42:44Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 42:47Speaker 01

  That kid's sparring young. There's an argument for sparring young because you can't hurt each other.

• 42:51Theo Von?

  Oh, yeah, sometimes I'll see like, um, reels on the internet of, uh, on social media of kids that are young sparring. It's really funny. Sometimes they don't know what to do.

• 42:59Speaker 01

  Well, as long as they learn control, they gotta learn control. But if they learn control when they're young, and they learn not to hit each other hard, but just to do it fast, man, they can get so good. Because they don't hurt each other the way, the way adults hurt each other.

• 43:11Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 43:12Speaker 01

  Like, once you get to be like a hundred and seventy pounds, man, you can generate a lot of force. And so if you're sparring hard with another guy that's a hundred and seventy pounds, you're blasting each other in the face and the legs and the body. It's like, oh, god, you do so much damage.

• 43:24Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 43:25Speaker 01

  So much damage. But little kids don't do that kind of damage. They just slap each other a little, pat, pat, pat. They just tap each other. It's like a good way to learn.

• 43:32Theo Von?

  Oh, if I could go back and be a kid.

• 43:34Speaker 01

  Is that what you'd do?

• 43:35Theo Von?

  I mean, I would slap. Cause you, if you could go back in time being a kid, think of all the stuff you would do.

• 43:39Speaker 01

  Well, let me tell you this. If you were ninety years old right now.

• 43:42Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 43:43Speaker 01

  God, if I go back in time when I was forty-four and limber.

• 43:45Theo Von?

  It's true, huh?

• 43:46Speaker 01

  That's what you'd do. Like, back in time, Theo Von, twenty twenty-five. Oh, my god, I should've taken jiu-jitsu back then. I could've been a badass in ten years. If you took jiu-jitsu right now, by fifty-four, you could be a black belt.

• 43:58Theo Von?

  You think I could?

• 43:58Speaker 01

  One hundred percent. Yeah, you're an addict. All you have to do is get addicted to jiu-jitsu.

• 44:02Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 44:03Speaker 01

  That's what happens to a lot of addicts. They get addicted to running.

• 44:06Theo Von?

  Hmm.

• 44:06Speaker 01

  Come marathon runners like uh my friend John Joseph, he became an Ironman guy and just started doing Ironman.

• 44:12Theo Von?

  What about Goggins? Did he ever suffer with addiction?

• 44:14Speaker 01

  Food.

• 44:15Theo Von?

  Oh yeah, that's right, huh?

• 44:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think we all have that.

• 44:18Theo Von?

  What um I get sugar sometimes. I'll uh.

• 44:21Speaker 01

  Sugar's a good one.

• 44:22Theo Von?

  God, I just want something.

• 44:23Speaker 01

  Look at that Gatorade. Is that a sugar-free Gatorade or a regular?

• 44:26Theo Von?

  I told him to get su- it's sugar-free.

• 44:27Speaker 01

  Zero.

• 44:27Theo Von?

  I asked him to get sugar-free. You want a little bit of it?

• 44:30Speaker 01

  No.

• 44:30Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 44:31Speaker 01

  He's like, I want to hit. You want a taste in this whiskey?

• 44:33Theo Von?

  Do you want a gram of this shit? Dude, I would get so uh I've just been getting so dehydrated. First of all, why is dehydration more of a thing now? Dude, when I was growing up, nobody was like.

• 44:42Speaker 01

  We were talking about that in the other podcast and we just, that's why this is important. If you're gonna listen, you gotta listen to both podcasts. And listen to that one first, because we started talking about dehydration, but then you got, I think you started talking about zebras or something.

• 44:54Theo Von?

  I did?

• 44:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, you went off in a different.

• 44:56Theo Von?

  Not you. You went off in a different direction, dude.

• 44:58Speaker 01

  You started talking about bombs and.

• 45:01Theo Von?

  You haven't met.

• 45:01Speaker 01

  Aliens.

• 45:02Theo Von?

  You haven't met you, dude.

• 45:05Theo Von?

  I gotta introduce you to you. You're gonna, you're gonna be in or you're gonna be intrigued.

• 45:11Speaker 01

  I'd be fascinated.

• 45:12Theo Von?

  Um, but no, I think uh, what was I saying?

• 45:15Speaker 01

  Hydration is important, though. That's why electrolytes, electrolytes are important.

• 45:18Theo Von?

  Why is it a big thing now? Like, you remember saying years ago, nobody was like, 10 years ago, it was like, people were like, yeah, stay hydrated, but nobody was like, elect- there wasn't this big crazy thing about it.

• 45:27Speaker 01

  There was once they figured out Gatorade. So do you, do you know what the original Gatorade ingredients were? It was like citrus juice, like lemon juice, salt, sugar and water, I believe. Pull up, pull that up. So this was a criticism that someone was bringing up on one of them Instagram reels. And they were talking about the original Gatorade versus the Gatorade that they have now with all these crazy dyes and the color blue and all these fucking, all the weird shit. Like, Gatorade didn't used to be like that. Gatorade was just like a hydration drink that was pretty fucking good, pretty fucking good.

• 46:00Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 46:01Speaker 01

  Like, hydration drinks are legit. Electrolytes, that's a legit thing, you know? You really do need, you need uh sodium, you need magnesium, you need, you need electrolytes.

• 46:10Theo Von?

  Trace minerals.

• 46:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, all that stuff's fucking really good for you. And when you sweat a lot, it helps to replenish it in your body.

• 46:16Theo Von?

  Do you think um, do you believe in that hydrogen water stuff where it's like you charge water?

• 46:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's legit.

• 46:22Theo Von?

  It is?

• 46:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 46:23Theo Von?

  I thought about maybe getting one this year.

• 46:26Speaker 01

  The original Gatorade invented in 1965 by UF's, is that University of Florida?

• 46:31Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 46:31Speaker 01

  Robert Cade consisted of glucose, sodium, potassium, and water. That's it. So sodium, potassium, water, and some sugar. The same formula we use for oral rehydration in cholera. It worked, but it tasted like tiger piss. Then Pepsi bought Gatorade and Michael Jordan sweetened it with high fructose corn syrup and voila! Michael Jordan brought us into the high fructose corn syrup maze.

• 46:56Theo Von?

  It was it. Yeah, I remember. He was the best ever.

• 46:59Speaker 01

  Who's done better with sneakers than that guy?

• 47:02Theo Von?

  Nobody. Jordans, it became his name.

• 47:04Speaker 01

  But also, it became a thing. Like, it's a part of a brand. It's a huge brand and it's bigger than the brand.

• 47:10Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 47:10Speaker 01

  Jordans are bigger than Nikes. Like, if you have Nikes on, that's one thing. If you have Jordans on, like, oh, he's got Jordans on.

• 47:15Theo Von?

  That's wild, huh?

• 47:16Speaker 01

  Theo Von's wearing Jordans. Look at that, yeah.

• 47:19Theo Von?

  I've never been a big shoe guy, really. I got these Jelly Roll shoes on he gave me.

• 47:23Speaker 01

  Oh, those are tight.

• 47:24Theo Von?

  These are like, hey dudes, they're called?

• 47:26Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, I got a pair of those.

• 47:27Theo Von?

  But they're men, they're really men's slippers and it's some of, something about it, yeah.

• 47:30Speaker 01

  You're wearing slippers.

• 47:31Theo Von?

  It's like, let me go on the-

• 47:32Speaker 01

  What are you gonna do if you have to fight?

• 47:34Theo Von?

  Not put these on and go out on the porch?

• 47:36Speaker 01

  On the porch?

• 47:39Speaker 01

  Theo's scrapping on the porch. By the way, I've seen more fistfights online over the last three years than I have in my entire life.

• 47:46Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 47:47Speaker 01

  My entire life of actually seeing street fights, my entire life of being out in comedy clubs and nightclubs and bars and seeing street fights. I've seen more in the last three years than all that combined.

• 47:59Theo Von?

  Do you feel like we get a unrealistic view of reality because of all the stuff that we see online?

• 48:04Speaker 01

  You do.

• 48:05Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 48:05Speaker 01

  But if you don't go and see an actual bar fight, you don't know reality. Like, I remember I was 21 years old. I was in Boston. And I went to this bar and I saw this dude break a Heineken bottle on this dude's face. I don't remember what they were arguing about. The dude did it so quickly. Out of nowhere, his first move was break a Heineken bottle on this guy's face and just cut this guy's face wide open. It was blood was pouring down his face. I was like, that is crazy. And I was as close to that guy is, as I am to Jamie. It was, it was right there at the bar. I watched it all go down. I was like, that's, and it put in my head. Like, don't ever talk shit to somebody at a bar.

• 48:46Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 48:46Speaker 01

  Like, de-escalate always.

• 48:48Theo Von?

  Too many weapons around.

• 48:49Speaker 01

  Cause well, just there's people out there that will just break a fucking bottle over your face. Especially if you threaten them. I don't know what that guy said. I don't know what happened. I just saw the act of the guy breaking. I saw, I heard loud arguing and then smash.

• 49:02Theo Von?

  And did the guy make a sound when he hit him or anything like that?

• 49:04Speaker 01

  I don't remember. Just, I remember blood. The blood was instant. It just gushed down his face.

• 49:11Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 49:11Speaker 01

  I mean, this guy got ruined for life. He has a giant scar on his face for the rest of his life, for sure. There's no way he doesn't. It was just, his whole face, blood.

• 49:23Theo Von?

  Did you, um?

• 49:24Speaker 01

  Don't fuck with people, man.

• 49:25Theo Von?

  Oh yeah, I'm not fucking with anybody.

• 49:26Speaker 01

  I know you don't, but for everybody else listening, don't fuck with people.

• 49:30Theo Von?

  Yeah, especially if you're at a bar too. Shit is wet. That, I don't, I don't like to be in places where people are real drunk because shit can get too weird. It makes me, it makes me nervous, I think.

• 49:39Speaker 01

  A hundred percent. People do stupid fucking things when they're drunk.

• 49:43Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 49:43Speaker 01

  That could ruin the whole rest of their life, just being hammered.

• 49:47Theo Von?

  Imagine how many people have just sobered up and been like, you're lying. I did that happen? And they don't even have any memory of it.

• 49:52Speaker 01

  I was watching this video that I just saw on Instagram the other day of this guy. He was a former Muay Thai fighter in Mexico. And he got in a fight with these dudes and just started KOing dudes left and right. He KO's like four or five dudes and one of them died. Cause this is one of the things that I tell people all the time, absolutely happens in street fights. You knock a person out. They fall down, they bounce their head off the concrete and they fucking die. And it happens. All the time. It happens all the time. And it hap- so in 25% of the people this guy knocked out, one of them died. So 25% of them died. One out of four, he KOs all four of them. One dude never wakes up and now he's charged with murder. Have you seen the video? It's pretty impressive.

• 50:36Theo Von?

  No, and the guy's just defending himself?

• 50:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, these guys are coming after him and uh, he just starts flatlining him.

• 50:42Theo Von?

  Damn.

• 50:43Speaker 01

  Blap. He's got a good right hand.

• 50:45Theo Von?

  Did you um, did you see any UFC fi- any fighting when you were in Scotland? What did you do for fun when you were there?

• 50:50Speaker 01

  No, there was no UFC fights. Um, have you seen that video Jamie? I could send it to you if you want.

• 50:56Theo Von?

  Who's a Scottish fighter? Paul Craig, is he Scottish?

• 50:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's Scottish. He's a bad motherfucker.

• 51:00Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 51:01Speaker 01

  He's got one of the greatest triangles in the history of the sport. That guy's triangles off the charts. I know I sent it to Tommy. Me and Tom Segura sent each other everything fucked up. Including that nuclear explosion, which I'm- I also saw that, that uh, lady get body slammed. Did you see that one Jamie?

• 51:20Speaker 01

  You didn't see that lady get body slammed?

• 51:21Speaker 02

  I don't know what specific time you're talking about. I've seen the video of that before.

• 51:24Speaker 01

  Some lady punches this guy in the face and the guy body slams her.

• 51:27Theo Von?

  Was it that Pen- it wasn't that Pentecostal deal, was it?

• 51:29Speaker 01

  No, this one is uh, in, I think it's in Toledo, Ohio. And they're out in the middle of the street. And uh, this lady is yelling at this dude's girlfriend. So the, I just sent it to you Jamie.

• 51:42Speaker 01

  Oh Jesus. That's another one.

• 51:46Theo Von?

  Ooh.

• 51:47Speaker 01

  Oh, he picked that woman up and slammed her like that?

• 51:49Theo Von?

  Wow, that seems, first of all, weight class, that's a catch weight, huh?

• 51:52Speaker 01

  That's so awful. That's so awful. Oh my god, damn it. Jesus Christ. That's not the one I'm talking about. The one I'm talking about is uh, I just sent it to you Jamie.

• 52:02Theo Von?

  You gotta be careful, man.

• 52:04Speaker 01

  This one, the lady punches the guy in the face though. The guy's trying to de-escalate, he tries to walk away. And the lady says, "Get the fuck out of my face", and then she punches him in the face and the dude picks her up and just slams her.

• 52:14Theo Von?

  Oh my god.

• 52:15Speaker 01

  And she, her boyfriend was in the car the whole time. She's calling out to the boyfriend in the car and the dude does not get out of the car. He's like, "Nope." She's like, "You go ahead and fuck- look, give me some volume."

• 52:27Speaker 01

  Angle fullscreen. Watch this.

• 52:32Speaker 03

  Get out the fucking door! You want to rob your fucking ass! Get out the fucking door there bitch! Get out! Get out! I didn't touch your fucking car, you dumb bitch! You were on my gun! Come and touch me, cause my man's right fucking there! Come and put your fucking hand on me! I ain't driving crazy! Your bitch was on my goddamn ass!

• 52:51Speaker 03

  I went to fucking other lane! Get out of my face!

• 52:54Speaker 01

  Silly.

• 52:55Speaker 03

  Bitch! My gun!

• 53:01Theo Von?

  That's why you gotta go to a meeting dude, I'd go to a meeting before I do this shit.

• 53:04Speaker 01

  Okay. Just for the record.

• 53:06Theo Von?

  That's a Mazda I think huh?

• 53:07Speaker 01

  No, it looks like a Cadillac. Like a shitty old Cadillac. For the record, that lady could die.

• 53:14Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 53:14Speaker 01

  Like you could die from that. Like if her head banged off the concrete, I'm not sure if it did. But if it did, with the weight of all of his body and her body, like that shit is very dangerous.

• 53:26Theo Von?

  Oh, look how much we heard it, from here.

• 53:28Speaker 01

  Yeah. He was charged with assault and battery, by means of dangerous weapon, causing serious bodily injury, vandalizing property, unlicensed operation of a motor vehicle. The man involved was arrested, but he wasn't driving.

• 53:42Theo Von?

  Yeah, that blows me up man.

• 53:44Speaker 02

  This is just what someone posted below, that could be...

• 53:46Speaker 01

  It might not be true. The woman suffered injuries, but was released from the hospital.

• 53:52Speaker 01

  The thing is, is like she assaulted him first.

• 53:54Theo Von?

  Right. Oh yeah, it doesn't, it seemed like they would get that figured out.

• 53:58Speaker 01

  But, doing that, oh he did bang her head, for sure.

• 54:00Theo Von?

  Oh! Yeah, you, well you think, yeah, look at that.

• 54:03Speaker 01

  That's super dangerous. Super fucking dangerous.

• 54:07Theo Von?

  Yeah man.

• 54:07Speaker 01

  Like that's even more dangerous than knocking somebody out.

• 54:09Theo Von?

  I mean that's horrible. That's the kinda stuff.

• 54:11Speaker 01

  You could 100% kill somebody doing that. 100%.

• 54:14Theo Von?

  Well people wanna do dangerous stuff, did you see there's a woman that just died petting an eleph- trying to pet an elephant, I think in Thailand? If you don't mind.

• 54:22Speaker 01

  A guy get trampled by an elephant recently.

• 54:25Theo Von?

  You did?

• 54:25Speaker 01

  Oh, it was awful. This elephant got tired of this guy ordering it around and just folded this dude up and just squashed him. And you see him trying to get away and it just squashes his head. Yo.

• 54:38Theo Von?

  Spanish woman killed by elephant in Thailand while bathing animal.

• 54:41Speaker 01

  Oh, by the way, I did that.

• 54:43Theo Von?

  You did it?

• 54:44Speaker 01

  I didn't get in the bath them, but my family did. We in Thailand rode the elephants. And I was like, I don't think this is cool. I they thought, oh, this is so beautiful. This is what happens. You go to this elephant reserve, like it's like they rescue these elephants. By the way, the elephants are completely free range. So they're wandering through the jungle. So while you're there, you hear trees branching, branches snapping. And you see elephants is making their way through the jungle to this group. And then they feed them sugarcane. So you feed these elephants sugarcane. So you give them a bunch of sugarcane and then you clean them. So you wash the elephant and you say nice things to it.

• 55:24Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 55:24Speaker 01

  And you develop this little relationship with the elephant. And then you ride the elephant through the jungle. The elephant takes you and then at the end of it, you bathe the elephant.

• 55:32Theo Von?

  Right.

• 55:33Speaker 01

  You get the elephant in the water and you wash them. You're basically being nice to them. They're being nice to you. They're letting you ride them. You give them free food and you give them a little massage, but I made a video about it, I think.

• 55:43Theo Von?

  When does he go ask you?

• 55:44Speaker 01

  Definitely did. I was like, I don't recommend it.

• 55:46Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 55:46Speaker 01

  I was like, it's cool. Cause like I was hanging out with this elephant in the video, like they're really sweet creatures. They're so gentle, but they're so big and they just, they're deciding not to kill you. You know, and, and you're riding them, which is like, why do you have to ride them?

• 55:59Theo Von?

  Why, why do we have that fatu- that fatuation with people that want to take pictures of like, you know, let me pet this newborn cheetah, right? Let me bottle feed this fucking senior citizen tiger. You know what I'm saying? There's always like, let me breast, let me um, bathe this elephant, you know?

• 56:19Speaker 01

  Well, the tigers are all drugged up too. That was another thing we did in Thailand.

• 56:22Theo Von?

  You gotta be careful, dude.

• 56:23Speaker 01

  Tigers are drugged up, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Super drugged up. So this is what it is. It's like you go to these tiger sanctuaries. What? You can. You certainly can on tigers. In Thailand.

• 56:34Theo Von?

  Oh, Thailand.

• 56:35Speaker 01

  So you go to this place and they have ki- they have little kittens. So the kittens, the tiger cubs,

• 56:39Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 56:40Speaker 01

  they're different. They're super active, like, ah, they're biting things and playing with each other.

• 56:44Theo Von?

  And you can touch them?

• 56:45Speaker 01

  And, yeah.

• 56:45Theo Von?

  Oh, good.

• 56:46Speaker 01

  You can touch them.

• 56:46Theo Von?

  Okay.

• 56:46Speaker 01

  But then when they get slightly older, you can be in the cage with them, but there has to be a dude with a stick. A dude with a stick to stand in between you and this small tiger.

• 56:54Theo Von?

  Fuck, no. Whose team is he on?

• 56:55Speaker 01

  Oh, it's so crazy. It's so crazy. It's so crazy.

• 56:58Theo Von?

  And he's on your team?

• 56:59Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 56:59Theo Von?

  Okay.

• 57:00Speaker 01

  And this is a small tiger. This tiger is like forty pounds. And then when they get bigger, then they have to drug them. So then when you get into the adult tiger, they're like this.

• 57:10Speaker 01

  Like, so obvious. And people are taking pictures, like, sitting next to the tiger. Tigers, literally, like, just like, huh. He has no idea what's going on. They keep them all heroined out of their mind. The tigers don't move. And you realize they're drugged up and you get real sad.

• 57:22Theo Von?

  Yeah. RFK is gonna end that shit. I'll say that, dude. We're gonna have real active tigers fucking attacking people.

• 57:28Speaker 01

  You want a photo with the tiger, you gotta risk your life.

• 57:30Theo Von?

  But that's the thing. It's like, why do we have that infatuation, though, of like, I wanna take this with this cobra around my neck? I wanna take this, you know?

• 57:35Speaker 01

  It's a good question.

• 57:36Theo Von?

  You can't, like, get these things where you wanna pet a tiger, you wanna, you know, brush a lion's teeth, you wanna tickle a cyst out in Akron or something without getting, you know, and some, like, people, you're gonna get attacked. You gotta be careful.

• 57:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 57:50Theo Von?

  But why, what is that inside of us that makes us wanna do that?

• 57:52Speaker 01

  Cause it's scary. It's scary to pet a crocodile. So when a guy can, like, put his hand on the crocodile's face, you're like, whoa.

• 57:58Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 57:59Speaker 01

  Did you ever see that one where the dude is like, the crocodile grabs a hold of his arm and goes into a gator roll in front of the crowd? Oh, it's horrible. Rips his arm off. Front of the whole crowd.

• 58:08Theo Von?

  I haven't seen that. Um, what else was I gonna ask you about?

• 58:13Speaker 01

  What do you think the drones are, Theo?

• 58:15Theo Von?

  I thought it's just a bunch of fucking, I think it's a, what does a PSYOP mean? I always hear that.

• 58:20Speaker 01

  Psychological operation.

• 58:22Theo Von?

  Okay. I think it's a PSYOP by somebody. I think it's, you know? Yeah, it's a couple drones over New Jersey, whatever. I don't fucking know. It could be Jimmy John's is gonna have a new delivery thing they're gonna try next year. Who, I wouldn't be surprised at all. I wouldn't be surprised if Amazon's gonna do a new, I wouldn't be shocked at all. It could have been one of those, you know, they have those, um, New Year's Eve displays, like fireworks displays now are drones instead of fireworks. So they'll have like a thousand drones and they just make a bunch of shit and it's different, right?

• 58:50Speaker 01

  I saw that at the Post Malone concert.

• 58:51Theo Von?

  It could have been eleven people, eleven drones escaped from a drones in enslavement camp where they're forced to do these shows. And it's gonna be a Pixar movie in two years, you know what I'm saying?

• 59:01Speaker 01

  So you're not concerned at all?

• 59:02Theo Von?

  I'm not concerned. Dude, look, if they're gonna come get me, come get me.

• 59:05Speaker 01

  Come get me, look at you.

• 59:06Theo Von?

  What are they doing? Who's the, who's, who are they?

• 59:08Speaker 01

  Who are they? These fucks.

• 59:10Theo Von?

  Yeah, they're gonna come, come get me.

• 59:12Speaker 01

  Come get me bitch.

• 59:13Theo Von?

  Yeah, if they wanna get me, they know where I am.

• 59:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 59:16Theo Von?

  They know where I am. Huh?

• 59:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, otherwise leave me alone. Don't make me look at you flying around the sky like an asshole.

• 59:22Theo Von?

  Yeah, what are you doing up there? Come down here and fuck if you wanna party.

• 59:25Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 59:26Theo Von?

  Or come down here and fucking party. Come down here and have a drink. Come down here and do something. You're a drone in the distance fucking looking at shit.

• 59:32Speaker 01

  Do you think we'll ever get to a point where aliens are so comfortable with us they could just come hang out?

• 59:35Theo Von?

  Dude, I think Earth to aliens is a dump dude. I think Earth to alien, cuz aliens go on vacation every year, right? They're just like us, right? And they take their kids on a trip or whatever and the kids who are so poor, right? And I'm, and look, we were poor, my mom would take us to the beach when it was freezing cold and fucking wouldn't tell us, you know, fuck whatever dude. It was like, it seems cold, I'm saying whatever, so well. And um, but the, the aliens that don't care about their kids, whatever, they bring them here to fucking shit. They're like, oh, and the kids like, we have to go to fucking Earth dude, our life sucks, you know? Like the cool alien kids go to all more neater shit, you know?

• 1:00:13Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:00:14Theo Von?

  Does that make sense to you?

• 1:00:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:00:16Theo Von?

  Yeah, that's the kinda thing I'm saying, man. Did you know Scotland actually has some of the most UFO sightings in the whole world?

• 1:00:22Speaker 01

  Well, they had one of the best UFO sightings. They took photographs of it. It was in that movie, the program.

• 1:00:27Theo Von?

  What's it called? Bridgebury?

• 1:00:29Speaker 01

  Uh, yeah, something like that. James Fox's documentary, The Program, he was just here promoting it. And they showed the photo and it's a photo from the nineteen nineties that they got of this thing. There's, apparently there was three photos. Bonnie Bridge, that's it.

• 1:00:43Theo Von?

  Most UFO sightings on the planet.

• 1:00:44Speaker 01

  Whoa, three hundred per year. Also, let me tell you something, those folks like they drank. I mean, bro, they drank.

• 1:00:52Theo Von?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:00:52Speaker 01

  Have a weed grab, have a weed grab. If someone's says have a weed drab that means it's time to get fucked up this dude who poured me a shot of Irish whiskey that was like that thing I was like oh we're gonna go

• 1:01:03Theo Von?

  they're getting

• 1:01:04Speaker 01

  we're getting ready to go

• 1:01:05Theo Von?

  oh you're talking did they call you

• 1:01:07Speaker 01

  have a weed drab they're the nicest people they're the nicest people

• 1:01:10Theo Von?

  and they're gay I think they'll have a lot of gays over there either if they have a lot of blue eyed people over there you know that

• 1:01:15Speaker 01

  you don't think they have a lot of gays

• 1:01:16Theo Von?

  I don't know

• 1:01:16Speaker 01

  what do you think they do with them

• 1:01:18Theo Von?

  I mean they have them I bet they don't say that they're that they're I bet they're secretive

• 1:01:22Speaker 01

  nah I don't think so I think they're pretty open minded in fact I think they have a pretty woke government I think they have a very woke government

• 1:01:29Theo Von?

  they wear a lot of kilts that's for sure dude

• 1:01:30Speaker 01

  there you go it's close to gay wearing a dress

• 1:01:32Theo Von?

  it's not but it's like what if a kilt says free awning on it

• 1:01:36Speaker 01

  what if it's a rainbow kilt do they sell do they sell rainbow kilts they probably do

• 1:01:42Theo Von?

  it's always raining what if it just says free awning on it you're like oh that seems like a trap bro

• 1:01:48Speaker 01

  dry your head off down here

• 1:01:50Theo Von?

  but if it says kids awning you gotta be that's fucking

• 1:01:54Speaker 01

  yeah free toys

• 1:01:57Theo Von?

  hey the top's empty

• 1:02:00Speaker 01

  Jesus Christ

• 1:02:01Theo Von?

  I'm just saying dude the Scottish we need more of them dude and I believe that in the future we'll get more of them man

• 1:02:06Speaker 01

  you think they're gonna breed a lot or do you think we're gonna like import people

• 1:02:10Theo Von?

  they've had some explosions of population I know over the past like fifty years I think like the

• 1:02:14Speaker 01

  oh really

• 1:02:15Theo Von?

  yeah I think so

• 1:02:16Speaker 01

  it's like a million people over there there's nobody over there

• 1:02:18Theo Von?

  yeah but they're getting more

• 1:02:19Speaker 01

  I think the whole country is like six million people

• 1:02:22Theo Von?

  most redheads most blue eyed people yep most redheads per cap as of twenty twenty two the population of Scotland was five point four million

• 1:02:30Speaker 01

  yeah largest population ever recorded by Scotland census population grew by two point seven percent since the two thousand eleven census which was slower rate of growth in the four point six increase between two thousand one and two thousand eleven

• 1:02:42Theo Von?

  they're smashing they've been listening to Ed Sheeran brother

• 1:02:45Speaker 01

  get the candles lit

• 1:02:46Theo Von?

  yeah they're coming back

• 1:02:47Speaker 01

  lung cancer it's a fuck it fuck it I'm keeping atmosphere going

• 1:02:52Theo Von?

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• 1:04:20Theo Von?

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• 1:05:02Theo Von?

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• 1:06:38Theo Von?

  That's ShipStation.com code Theo. Um, I had a question. Do you think Joe about, um, do you think that Elon and Vivek Ramaswamy will really be able to have an effect on things?

• 1:06:50Speaker 01

  I'm interested to see. Elon is a very pushy man. Once he gets an idea in his head, you know, it's very difficult to get him off of it. I'm interested to see if they can do anything. I'm interested to see what the reaction is to it too. Like what, what, what kind of resistance is there to them trying to change things?

• 1:07:07Theo Von?

  By the actual government elected officials?

• 1:07:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's going to be interesting too. Like sometimes you find out more by resistance than you do from like we did with like the, we were talking about in the other podcast, the Trudeau thing with the truckers in Canada. When he went after the people that donated money to the truckers and he closed their bank accounts, that's crazy fascist.

• 1:07:25Theo Von?

  I didn't know he did that.

• 1:07:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's crazy tyrannical overreach. That's that's like really dangerous authoritarian government tactics. You close the bank accounts of people who donated to a peaceful protest. So sometimes like in resistance, you get to see what someone's really about.

• 1:07:43Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:43Speaker 01

  You know, and so I'm interested to see. Well, they already tried to kill him. You know.

• 1:07:48Theo Von?

  I know two times. I think even after that, they're like, we gotta let him keep going.

• 1:07:51Speaker 01

  That's the other weird one about the killing them thing, the trying to kill them. Is there there's all these connections. This is the big tinfoil hat conspiracy thing. They're all connecting them to Fort Bragg. So there's three connections to Fort Bragg. There's this guy who blew himself up allegedly in the Tesla. There's the dude who tried to kill Trump on the golf course. He had visited Fort Bragg a hundred times. Um, there's uh, one other one. What's the other one?

• 1:08:19Theo Von?

  The New Orleans guy?

• 1:08:21Speaker 01

  The New Orleans guy. Yeah, that's right. The New Orleans guy who ran over those people in the street. That guy's from Fort Bragg as well. And so.

• 1:08:28Theo Von?

  I'm praying for those groups. It's.

• 1:08:29Speaker 01

  What people are really terrified of is the idea of mind control. And that they train people that are very vulnerable, people that are all fucked up. They train these people to uh, become hitmen and terrorists. And there was uh, an undercover camera thing. I'll send this to you, Jamie, because you see it and you're like, what the fuck? These are real people? Where this guy is explaining how they do this. And he's explaining how they take people and push them over the edge.

• 1:09:02Theo Von?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:09:03Speaker 01

  People that are uh, maybe like a little bit lost and they give them a nudge to get them to uh, to do things.

• 1:09:11Theo Von?

  Well, that all makes sense. I mean, just like religion can find you or just like um.

• 1:09:14Speaker 01

  Sure, the government can find you.

• 1:09:16Theo Von?

  Yeah, people, something can find you when you're vulnerable.

• 1:09:18Speaker 01

  Well, that's the kid that shot Trump. That's what a lot of people think that is too. The tinfoil hat conspiracy is that they found this very vulnerable kid. He did a BlackRock commercial and then, you know, a year and a half later, whatever it was, he's shooting at Trump off of a roof. So listen to this.

• 1:09:37Speaker 01

  So CIA agent explains how the government baits and tricks mentally unwell social media users into committing crimes they wouldn't normally commit. And so it says you set them up.

• 1:09:47Speaker 04

  You create the situation to where they have no choice but to act on their impulse. And once they act on that impulse, then we call that entrapment, we call it a nudge.

• 1:09:55Speaker 01

  A nudge.

• 1:09:56Speaker 04

  A nudge.

• 1:09:57Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 1:09:58Speaker 04

  Sometimes just get a quick look, just to see what happens, right?

• 1:10:01Speaker 01

  And how does that happen?

• 1:10:03Speaker 04

  You put a post out there, or you have some fake profile say something that triggers, that we know is gonna trigger them, right? Like, we already know your history. If we're to that point, we already know everything about you. So we're like, oh, this'll piss them off.

• 1:10:20Speaker 04

  Sometimes you like to fuse and just wait for it to follow.

• 1:10:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:10:23Speaker 04

  Nothing like putting on a fake social media thing to like really get people mad.

• 1:10:26Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:10:27Speaker 04

  Post fake news, you know, sometimes it's... It's not fake.

• 1:10:32Speaker 01

  That's crazy.

• 1:10:32Speaker 04

  It's embellished a little bit.

• 1:10:34Speaker 01

  So, this is, the guy's name is Gavin Oblennis, and says CIA contracting officer, former FBI, San Diego. Like, is that to protect or serve? Like, what is that for? You imagine that government money is being spent to manipulate vulnerable people into doing things that they wouldn't ordinarily do? That's crazy.

• 1:10:54Theo Von?

  I could totally imagine that. I mean, that's what's scary about-

• 1:10:56Speaker 01

  Why is it always these chatty gay guys that get busted?

• 1:10:58Theo Von?

  Well, this guy, obviously, it seems like was trying to flirt with whoever he's talking to, to me. And I'm not saying the guy-

• 1:11:04Speaker 01

  That's always what it is, is he-

• 1:11:05Theo Von?

  enjoys buddies or whatever. I'm just saying, it seemed like that to me.

• 1:11:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, chatty gay guys. That's how they keep busting them.

• 1:11:12Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:12Speaker 01

  They get hot guys on Grindr to go meet up with chatty gay guys.

• 1:11:17Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:17Speaker 01

  I wonder how they set that up. I wonder if you have to have a bunch of verified fucks in order for people to take you, like, where's your blue checkmark?

• 1:11:23Theo Von?

  You gotta be really gay, buddy.

• 1:11:25Speaker 01

  You gotta get a pink checkmark, someone fucked you. Alright, this guy's legit.

• 1:11:28Theo Von?

  Oh. And you think there's a lot of people being fake gays or whatever to help the government?

• 1:11:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, all that James O'Keefe stuff. Back when he was at Project Veritas, they'd always bust these gay guys.

• 1:11:41Theo Von?

  James O'Keefe, the author? No.

• 1:11:42Speaker 01

  No, no, the investigative journalist.

• 1:11:45Theo Von?

  Oh, I didn't see that.

• 1:11:45Speaker 01

  Very controversial investigative journalist that does these undercover ops where he finds, he gets one of his guys to wear a camera.

• 1:11:54Theo Von?

  I'm thinking of Robert O'Keefe, I think.

• 1:11:55Speaker 01

  I don't know who you're thinking of, but James O'Keefe was with Project Veritas. Now he's got his own thing. What is it called?

• 1:12:02Speaker 02

  Uh, the James O'Keefe's. OMG something?

• 1:12:06Speaker 01

  OMG, right? O'Keefe Media Group.

• 1:12:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:12:09Speaker 01

  And so.

• 1:12:10Speaker 02

  Looking into this guy, he might, that might.

• 1:12:12Speaker 01

  Might be a bullshit artist.

• 1:12:13Speaker 02

  He might have been lying just so he could get laid, you know?

• 1:12:16Theo Von?

  That's what I felt like a hundred percent. This guy seems like.

• 1:12:19Speaker 02

  Just what someone claimed to look into him and said he didn't work there.

• 1:12:21Speaker 01

  He's VA employed, Advanced Medical Support Assistant. Um, okay, it says, this guy's my age. He was checking in patients at the VA when I started as an FBI agent, and that was 10 years older than many in 2022. He was a secretary at the FBI. Be skeptical, people, geez.

• 1:12:39Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:39Speaker 01

  So he might be just, but well, it seemed like he was. But also, he probably does know how they do it. Maybe he's not even saying that he does it because he has a low position, but if he's explaining how the FBI does it, and he does work for the FBI.

• 1:12:54Theo Von?

  It makes sense. Do you think we can trust our FBI anymore?

• 1:12:59Speaker 01

  I think you can trust some of them, but the FBI is like people and people in positions of power. They, they get corrupted. Some do get corrupted. Some are great patriots. It's just like everything else, man.

• 1:13:09Theo Von?

  And the CIA, the same thing?

• 1:13:11Speaker 01

  I think with every fucking group of people that are in power that don't have a lot of oversight, or where the organization itself has been corrupted. You know, there's a lot of people that think the FBI back in the day, not the same people a lot today, of course, but they had something to do with Martin Luther King's assassination.

• 1:13:25Theo Von?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:13:26Speaker 01

  You know, there's a lot of people that think they had something to do with Malcolm X's assassination and, um.

• 1:13:30Theo Von?

  Kennedy.

• 1:13:31Speaker 01

  Yeah. There's a lot of fucking theories, and I don't know the, the truth. I don't know the truth. But when you look in the January 6th thing, and you say that the FBI, didn't they admit they had 26 agents there? Is that what they admitted to, Jamie?

• 1:13:46Speaker 01

  Because it's the most recent discussion about what actually took place in January 6th. Like, how many of those people?

• 1:13:51Speaker 02

  This article is talking about, it says 20?

• 1:13:54Speaker 01

  20.

• 1:13:55Theo Von?

  I just wonder what

• 1:13:56Speaker 01

  20 agents.

• 1:13:57Theo Von?

  What starts to happen if you don't, if as a society you don't believe and trust in, I believe that the the trust overall in government and government and authority and in America really as a whole is kind of starting to dissipate.

• 1:14:13Speaker 01

  Along with the trust in the media.

• 1:14:14Theo Von?

  Right.

• 1:14:15Speaker 01

  Same time.

• 1:14:15Theo Von?

  So then what, so where did, has that ever happened in history and then I'm sure it has and where do we go from here?

• 1:14:22Speaker 01

  Well.

• 1:14:23Theo Von?

  I guess it's too big of a question.

• 1:14:25Speaker 01

  When we say, has it ever happened in history, sure, things have fallen apart before, but has it ever come back together again? Maybe not, but maybe it didn't have the internet back then.

• 1:14:34Theo Von?

  Right.

• 1:14:34Speaker 01

  So what people are looking at, like with Trudeau resigning and Trump winning and then you know, all this talk of Robert Kennedy getting in, the Make America Healthy Again movement, like that we might be able to see legitimate change this go around. Like with Vivek and Elon being in charge of government efficiency, we might be able to see, I'm hopeful, I'm really hopeful for the first time in a long time. But I'm curious to see what can actually get done.

• 1:14:58Theo Von?

  Who do they have to answer to Vivek and Elon? Who do they have to

• 1:15:01Speaker 01

  Good question.

• 1:15:02Theo Von?

  first present stuff to? Somebody said it was Marjorie Taylor Greene, is that true or somebody made that up?

• 1:15:06Speaker 01

  They're in.

• 1:15:09Theo Von?

  I met her at a party, actually.

• 1:15:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, did you?

• 1:15:12Theo Von?

  I didn't know that it was her. I don't know like a ton about politics, but it was definitely interesting though.

• 1:15:16Speaker 01

  I'm fucking sure.

• 1:15:18Theo Von?

  Tucker had that party for Alp. He has like a new

• 1:15:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, his nicotine pouches. They're good.

• 1:15:23Theo Von?

  I haven't done them.

• 1:15:24Speaker 01

  They're legit?

• 1:15:25Theo Von?

  But, uh, yeah, it seemed cool. Mel Gibson was there, that was pretty cool.

• 1:15:28Speaker 01

  So I went without nicotine pouches for five days. See what that was like.

• 1:15:32Theo Von?

  What happened?

• 1:15:33Speaker 01

  Um, when I tried the eights, when I came back, I got these, uh, Lucy's, these breakers, the eights.

• 1:15:38Theo Von?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:15:38Speaker 01

  I couldn't take it. It was too much. Because five days off, I was like, whoa, this is too much.

• 1:15:42Theo Von?

  And what happened? You get to sit down somewhere? Did you just?

• 1:15:44Speaker 01

  I got it taken out of my mouth. Then I switched to these, uh, threes. I'm on this, uh, athletic nicotine, these threes.

• 1:15:51Theo Von?

  Hmm.

• 1:15:51Speaker 01

  So I've been taking these while I do podcasts, but completely killed my desire to just pop them in throughout the day.

• 1:15:57Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:57Speaker 01

  Because I was used to the eights, so I was popping them eights all day long. But then I realized when I wasn't taking them for the five days, I'm like, ooh, I'm a lot more calm.

• 1:16:04Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:05Speaker 01

  I'm a lot less ramped up. I'm like, I don't need to be ramped up while I'm on vacation. I don't have to do any podcasts.

• 1:16:10Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:10Speaker 01

  You know?

• 1:16:11Theo Von?

  I don't need to be alive as much.

• 1:16:12Speaker 01

  I don't, well, I just mean, I mean Enjoy, just be chill. Why be alert? Why be so alert?

• 1:16:18Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:21Speaker 01

  Thing is, you get used to being so alert. And then you want them all the time. Want them before I lift. Fucking give me an eight before I lift.

• 1:16:26Theo Von?

  Oh, I want something all the fucking time, dude.

• 1:16:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:16:29Theo Von?

  I wanna fuckin-

• 1:16:29Speaker 01

  Want another sniff?

• 1:16:30Theo Von?

  I wish I had that trach hole. I'd just fucking-

• 1:16:32Speaker 01

  Want another sniff?

• 1:16:33Theo Von?

  Booth shit right into my neck all day. Yeah, I'll take whatever you got, boy. I heard a buddy the other day saying he's sober. Oh, you're in, dude.

• 1:16:44Theo Von?

  Wow, you look like a Jets fan.

• 1:16:46Speaker 01

  I'm like looking at fireworks right now. My eyes are closed, it's just fireworks.

• 1:16:51Theo Von?

  Oh, yeah, give me some of that-

• 1:16:53Speaker 01

  It's dying off. Ooh, fireworks.

• 1:16:53Theo Von?

  Katy Perry dust, buddy. Oh, Joey, you wanna see me ride it, don't you, love?

• 1:16:59Speaker 01

  Imagine if Katy Perry takes her panties off.

• 1:17:01Theo Von?

  Hmm.

• 1:17:02Speaker 01

  And that's it.

• 1:17:03Theo Von?

  Oh, no. And I shouldn't have said the first part either, cuz she's married.

• 1:17:07Speaker 01

  Katy Perry does this. Yes, be respectful.

• 1:17:09Theo Von?

  I am, and I-

• 1:17:10Speaker 01

  Let's imagine not a real Katy Perry, but a robot Katy Perry, cuz that's coming.

• 1:17:14Theo Von?

  Yeah, and we met Catherine Perry, who grew up down-

• 1:17:16Speaker 01

  Different gal. She's from Toledo. She's the girl that got body slammed.

• 1:17:22Speaker 01

  Take a snap. Oh, you went deep, son. You went so deep. You got that into your hairs. Yeah, give me that back before you hurt yourself.

• 1:17:30Theo Von?

  Come on, eh!

• 1:17:31Speaker 01

  You were reluctant to give it back. You were thinking about going again.

• 1:17:34Theo Von?

  I'll fucking go again, boy. Huh?

• 1:17:37Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:17:38Theo Von?

  Yeah, dude.

• 1:17:42Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:17:42Theo Von?

  I'll do one more little one. I'm gonna do a big one, though. We ready. We ready. We're gonna go.

• 1:17:54Speaker 01

  When you shake it.

• 1:17:57Speaker 01

  Oh, my God, what have you done?

• 1:18:00Theo Von?

  Play the pipes, Joey Rogan.

• 1:18:04Theo Von?

  Darn it, you aliens, Joe.

• 1:18:08Speaker 01

  Jesus, son.

• 1:18:15Theo Von?

  Oh, fuck, that shit'll turn you into a raccoon, baby boy. Dude, you know the worst thing was? Besides that?

• 1:18:24Speaker 01

  Your eyes, when you close your eyes, do you see fireworks?

• 1:18:26Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:27Speaker 01

  Like, when I closed my eyes, it was like my whole... It was all lit up.

• 1:18:32Theo Von?

  It reminds me of that thing, have you ever seen that game show, it's, um... Sauce challenge or whatever?

• 1:18:37Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:18:38Theo Von?

  Hot sauce challenge?

• 1:18:39Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, hot wings.

• 1:18:41Theo Von?

  Hot wings, right?

• 1:18:41Speaker 01

  Hot ones.

• 1:18:42Theo Von?

  Hot ones.

• 1:18:43Speaker 01

  Have you ever done that?

• 1:18:45Theo Von?

  Yeah, I did it a few years ago. And it was a great, that guy Sean Evans is a great guy.

• 1:18:49Speaker 01

  That's all I hear about him. Everybody says he's a nice guy.

• 1:18:52Theo Von?

  He's so smart, and he's a neat, he's just a nice dude, and, um... But people are always like, "How are the sauces?" Well, seven of them are sauces. A couple of them are fucking shit, you used to clean this out of a boat, you know? It's like... It's like... Like, sauces went into that weird realm where it was like, "We just wanna burn a hole in you" kinda thing, you know?

• 1:19:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:19:12Theo Von?

  And so, some of them got to be very, um... I don't wanna get sued for saying that, can I say that? I'm just joking, right?

• 1:19:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, you're just joking.

• 1:19:20Theo Von?

  But they're like, some of them are like, "Oh, this isn't, I wouldn't put this on anything."

• 1:19:23Speaker 01

  Right, it's too strong.

• 1:19:24Theo Von?

  It's, it's not a sauce, it's just like a chemical, it felt like.

• 1:19:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's dangerous.

• 1:19:28Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:29Speaker 01

  What about that one chip challenge, you ever try that?

• 1:19:31Theo Von?

  I did that, it's fun.

• 1:19:32Speaker 01

  It's preposterous.

• 1:19:33Theo Von?

  It's nice, yeah, it's like a Mexican Christmas type of thing, I think it comes out every year.

• 1:19:36Speaker 01

  But the chips are stale and bullshit, though, that's what was terrible.

• 1:19:38Theo Von?

  The chips are bullshit, it's just a gateway drug for spice or whatever.

• 1:19:41Speaker 01

  I feel like it was just a way to reuse shitty old chips that had gone bad. That's what it felt like to me. Like, whoever did it is a goddamn genius. Cause that's, I was offended by the fact that the chip was so dry.

• 1:19:53Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:53Speaker 01

  I was like, "Look, you could do this with a Dorito and it wouldn't be as offensive." You know, one thing about Doritos, every time you open those bitches, it's the same... I know they're using seed oils and a bunch of chemicals, but guess what? I don't eat Doritos all the time, but I had a bag of Doritos five days ago, and guess what? I enjoyed it. It was Cool Ranch.

• 1:20:14Theo Von?

  Oh, they're so good.

• 1:20:15Speaker 01

  They were good.

• 1:20:16Theo Von?

  I remember when they came out with those, people couldn't even fucking, didn't know what to do.

• 1:20:19Speaker 01

  They couldn't stop eating.

• 1:20:20Theo Von?

  I remember our stepdad came back for like a week when they came out, and he's like, "Yeah, everything's gonna be fine."

• 1:20:25Speaker 01

  Cool Ranch.

• 1:20:26Theo Von?

  Fuck, they were good.

• 1:20:27Speaker 01

  A little bit of queso.

• 1:20:28Theo Von?

  Oh, dude, Cool Ranch was good, I remember, um... Trying to think of the early cheese balls. Those were good. Those were good.

• 1:20:36Speaker 01

  You can't outlaw that stuff. Just because some people have no self-control.

• 1:20:39Theo Von?

  Do you think, are some people gonna start to be like, oh shit, this guy's gonna take away Chick-fil-A like you were saying?

• 1:20:45Speaker 01

  Probably. Yeah. Can't, we can't let that happen.

• 1:20:48Theo Von?

  Well, that's, we can't now go against Bobby Kennedy.

• 1:20:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, we have to. We have to fight him. It's the same thing.

• 1:20:53Speaker 02

  Remember Jay Leno was a Doritos guy?

• 1:20:55Speaker 01

  Jay Leno was selling Doritos. I think that's when Bill Hicks started attacking him.

• 1:21:00Theo Von?

  They didn't get along?

• 1:21:01Speaker 01

  No. No.

• 1:21:02Theo Von?

  I didn't know that. Did you ever meet Bill Hicks?

• 1:21:04Speaker 01

  I never met him. I saw him live twice. Two or three times. I think three times. Um, but I said hi to him. Like, you know, like that. Like, hey, what's up?

• 1:21:14Theo Von?

  Was he like famous when you saw him?

• 1:21:16Speaker 01

  He was famous for comedians. He was famous, he had been on Rodney Dangerfield's Young Comedian Special. And that was a big deal back then. This was before he even had his big HBO special. Um, he was just this, uh, weird guy who was connected to Kenison. And then the first time I saw him live, I was like, holy shit. He was doing things that are so different than any of the other comedy that was, uh, popular back then. It was all like, he had something to say about things. It was like cultural, it was like cultural commentary with jokes. But the cultural commentary was as much of a part as what he was saying was the fact that it was funny. That was totally unique. And then it became a thing where everybody was copying him.

• 1:22:00Theo Von?

  Oh, really?

• 1:22:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:22:02Theo Von?

  So he was like one of those guys that people just started being like, without even, you think without even realizing it?

• 1:22:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, without realizing it and realizing it and just openly plagiarizing him. He was very plagiarized by a bunch of people. But he was, uh, just doing something different because his interests were different. He was following his interests.

• 1:22:18Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:18Speaker 01

  You know, that's what he was interested in talking about. So, and, and he was touring so much, that he was working so much that he had so much material because he was just constantly playing in all these places. And unlike a lot of like really respected comedians. He didn't do his tours in the big cities. He was like touring around the deep south. You know, he called it his flying saucer tour. Because everywhere he would tour was where flying saucers would be spotted. Like these weird fucked up cities. And so he developed this like really intelligent act that would work on dumb crowds.

• 1:22:51Theo Von?

  Huh.

• 1:22:51Speaker 01

  Very unique guy.

• 1:22:53Theo Von?

  Like lowbrow, high art kinda stuff.

• 1:22:55Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm. Well, some of it was lowbrow, some of it was highbrow, some of it was just funny. Great social commentary on the war. You know, he was just great. It was just a different thing. I mean, he wasn't as like laugh out loud funny as like Richard Jenny. But I remember me and Richard Jenny watched him once and he said, "God, every time I see that guy, I'm like, "I gotta do more of that."

• 1:23:13Theo Von?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:23:14Speaker 01

  Richard Jenny said that. I saw him say it. And so I'm like, "Wow." Richard Jenny, to me at that time, was one of the greatest comics alive. He was so good in the 1980s. Like, people don't realize. I've told this story before, just for you. There's one time he was at the Eastside Comedy Club. And, uh, Eastside Comedy Club was a big comedy club in Long Island. Great club, awesome club. Richie Minavini used to own it. And, uh, we were there on Sunday and the dude who was the emcee over the weekend was depressed. He was like, "Richard Jenny did four different hours." And he goes, "He didn't repeat a joke once and every hour he killed." He goes, "He did four completely different hours." And no one could do that back then. So for Richard Jenny to tell me that he was watching Bill Hicks, like, "I gotta do more of that."

• 1:23:59Theo Von?

  Wow.

• 1:23:59Speaker 01

  Like, that's how influential he was.

• 1:24:03Theo Von?

  Did you see George Carlin perform then too?

• 1:24:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, I saw George perform a bunch of times. I saw George perform in a time where he wasn't doing so good.

• 1:24:10Theo Von?

  He was struggling with the drugs, you think?

• 1:24:12Speaker 01

  I don't know, man. I saw him bomb in New Ha- New Hampshire. I took my roommates to a casino, saw him play in a casino in New Hampshire and he fucking ate shit. It was weird. It was weird. It's like it wasn't worked out.

• 1:24:24Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:24Speaker 01

  It's like he was, uh, he would go on stage with notebooks. And he was just kinda like working out ideas. He had a very different way of doing comedy. Like, his way of doing comedy was he would write everything out. And then he would, uh, bring notebooks on stage and perform it as he wrote it. Like, he didn't do it like, almost like doing a one-man show. And then every year he would film it for HBO.

• 1:24:45Theo Von?

  Damn.

• 1:24:46Speaker 01

  Yeah. It was a totally different style of doing comedy. And so he went through periods in time where he was doing real well. And he was real funny. And then he went through some dark times where he was bombing a lot. And that's unfortunately the first time I saw him.

• 1:25:00Theo Von?

  Have you ever seen, um, Roll Tide Willie, that guy, uh?

• 1:25:05Speaker 01

  Who's that? Do you know what that is?

• 1:25:08Theo Von?

  I'll put you on him.

• 1:25:10Theo Von?

  He's like, I guess he's kind of a comedian now. He was a, he played football for Alabama and then he got injured.

• 1:25:16Theo Von?

  He was in the military.

• 1:25:20Theo Von?

  See if you can pull up something of him.

• 1:25:23Speaker 01

  So what does he do? Does he say his crazy things?

• 1:25:25Theo Von?

  He loves Alabama. He's like a, um.

• 1:25:28Speaker 01

  Like a mascot?

• 1:25:29Theo Von?

  Yeah, yeah. He's like a mascot. He likes alcohol.

• 1:25:33Speaker 01

  He looks like he likes alcohol.

• 1:25:34Theo Von?

  Yeah. Sitting here watching and waiting on the Bama game.

• 1:25:39Speaker 01

  Look right here on this side.

• 1:25:40Theo Von?

  Chilling.

• 1:25:41Speaker 01

  Chilling. Don't give a piss.

• 1:25:46Theo Von?

  Don't give a piss about nothing but the tide.

• 1:25:50Speaker 01

  What you doing?

• 1:25:51Theo Von?

  The tide, Alabama tide, he likes.

• 1:25:53Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 1:25:53Theo Von?

  That's one of his favorites. Yeah, he's a, um.

• 1:25:55Speaker 01

  Give people the freedom to not give a fuck about anything but the tide. Right? That's one of the, right? If you're gonna have transgenders going into the men's room or the women's room, you're gonna have to have that guy too. You gotta, you gotta give, you gotta be tolerant of that guy.

• 1:26:10Theo Von?

  Oh, a hundred percent, man.

• 1:26:11Speaker 01

  How come you're not?

• 1:26:12Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:26:12Speaker 01

  Why are you so judgmental? Like that guy, have some tolerance.

• 1:26:16Theo Von?

  Yeah, he served for our country too.

• 1:26:18Speaker 01

  Did he?

• 1:26:18Theo Von?

  Yeah. He got injured in the, uh, or I think he got injured. He, uh, he was in the military with my friend's dad. But he, um, I think he played at University of Alabama, but now he's like, like the biggest fan. But, um, he's kind of a, yeah, mascot for Alabama. He's like the, they call, they, he goes by Roll Tide Willie.

• 1:26:37Speaker 01

  Hmm, okay.

• 1:26:39Theo Von?

  So just so you know.

• 1:26:39Speaker 01

  Why'd you wanna bring him up?

• 1:26:42Theo Von?

  I don't know.

• 1:26:43Speaker 01

  Just came to mind?

• 1:26:44Theo Von?

  Yeah, I just think we're just talking about, what were we talking about? Oh, comedians, entertainers? I think entertainment's getting interesting because a lot of people are getting entertainers too, just off of, um, off of social media reels, right?

• 1:26:53Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:26:54Theo Von?

  So it's like you're finding somebody you might wanna watch, like, uh, um, Jessica McGowan or something, or, um.

• 1:27:01Speaker 01

  Who's that?

• 1:27:03Theo Von?

  Shit, the lady from Buffy the Vampire Slayer I'm talking about, or, or, you know.

• 1:27:08Theo Von?

  Gwyneth Paltrow, or watch like a um, or watch Roll Tide, you know what I'm saying? It's just so it's, entertainment is just super interesting now.

• 1:27:19Speaker 01

  Well, it's definitely open to more things, right? Like Tim Dillon turned me on to that family in New Jersey that goes to Costco and yells out about cookies.

• 1:27:28Theo Von?

  Oh, the booms.

• 1:27:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:27:30Theo Von?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:27:30Speaker 01

  That's unfortunate, right?

• 1:27:32Theo Von?

  I mean, that's crazy.

• 1:27:35Speaker 01

  We saw how many millions of people watched that, like, that's way more than watch CNN.

• 1:27:39Theo Von?

  We bring the boom, yeah, that kid. And the one kid I heard didn't even make good grades unfortunately, which is like, well, he's not even in school.

• 1:27:45Speaker 01

  Why should he? He's gonna make that Costco TikTok money. They better not ban TikTok. Imagine that family becomes homeless.

• 1:27:52Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:52Speaker 01

  Because some heartless politicians decide to stop that Chinese spyware. How about let those morons stay on that shit? Let them steal their passwords. Let them go boom.

• 1:28:01Theo Von?

  Dude, I'm on there.

• 1:28:03Speaker 01

  You should be.

• 1:28:04Theo Von?

  But they're taking all, they're taking, but yeah, I guess I'm wondering sometimes what are the Chinese actually taking that they already have for me? Except, I mean, they could geolocate me.

• 1:28:13Speaker 01

  Your DNA. They're gonna clone you. You're gonna be like Alex Jones, gonna have a different version of you.

• 1:28:18Theo Von?

  Half my family's in recovery. You can have it, bud. You can fucking have it, dude.

• 1:28:26Speaker 01

  Do you think any of those drones are Chinese?

• 1:28:29Theo Von?

  How could we have in our airspace a drone from another country and we don't know it? That's why I.

• 1:28:35Speaker 01

  Well, is it that we don't know it or we can't do anything about it?

• 1:28:39Theo Von?

  Oh, we could do something about it.

• 1:28:41Speaker 01

  Well, you have to decide to do something about it. And the Biden administration doesn't seem like they're the type that would just be shooting shit out of the sky.

• 1:28:49Theo Von?

  That's a good point.

• 1:28:50Speaker 01

  Whereas Trump, that motherfucker will shoot some shit out of the sky. You know, they didn't tell him about some of the balloons that China had circling the country because they were worried he was gonna have them shot out of the sky.

• 1:29:00Theo Von?

  No way.

• 1:29:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. They openly admitted that they didn't tell Trump about some of the balloons. Remember when they shot that balloon out of the sky?

• 1:29:06Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:29:07Speaker 01

  When they shot that balloon out of the sky, we were talking about this the other day, they missed. One of those missiles missed.

• 1:29:13Theo Von?

  And went where?

• 1:29:14Speaker 01

  Who fucking knows?

• 1:29:16Theo Von?

  Oh. It's like New Year's Eve in San Antonio, dude.

• 1:29:19Speaker 01

  Imagine if you're hiking, you're out there in the wilderness, like, this is amazing, I've got my jet boil, I'm gonna cook, I'm gonna cook up some ramen tonight.

• 1:29:27Theo Von?

  Yeah, hey Thomas.

• 1:29:29Speaker 01

  Boom, right in the face, right in the face, a missile that was meant for a Chinese balloon.

• 1:29:35Theo Von?

  And they're never gonna admit to that, they'll say it was, yeah.

• 1:29:37Speaker 01

  You vanished.

• 1:29:37Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:29:38Speaker 01

  There's nothing to even test.

• 1:29:39Theo Von?

  You'll be on one of those 411 documentaries or something.

• 1:29:41Speaker 01

  You get hit in the face with a missile, there's nothing left.

• 1:29:44Theo Von?

  That's on you too, dude.

• 1:29:45Speaker 01

  There's nothing left.

• 1:29:46Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:29:47Speaker 01

  They don't even know you were there, you just, you got ate by wolves, who knows what happened to you?

• 1:29:52Theo Von?

  Baby girl is gone.

• 1:29:53Speaker 01

  You're gone, there's nothing, you're pink mist. They're gonna scrape you off the leaves, do a DNA test.

• 1:30:00Theo Von?

  Yeah, dude.

• 1:30:02Speaker 01

  You get hit with a missile out of a fucking fighter jet.

• 1:30:05Theo Von?

  It wouldn't be enough, it'd be barely enough for a wolf to lick a little bit of you off a rock.

• 1:30:08Speaker 01

  Okay, let's imagine that Beirut bomb.

• 1:30:11Theo Von?

  Okay.

• 1:30:11Speaker 01

  That Beirut bomb.

• 1:30:12Theo Von?

  What do you do? You see it falling, what do you do?

• 1:30:14Speaker 01

  You don't do anything.

• 1:30:15Theo Von?

  You gotta do something.

• 1:30:16Speaker 01

  You don't do a thing, you just go, oh no, and then you vaporize, you prepare yourself for the next dimension.

• 1:30:22Theo Von?

  How long do you get? Say if it's...

• 1:30:24Speaker 01

  You don't get any time at all.

• 1:30:25Theo Von?

  Come on, man.

• 1:30:26Speaker 01

  It just happens so fast, if you're in the epicenter of one of those bombs and it just goes off, you don't have any time, it's just boom, vaporize, the whole city's vaporized.

• 1:30:35Theo Von?

  What if you're 2,000 yards off?

• 1:30:39Speaker 01

  You might live, who knows, you might be behind a fucking building and the building might stay up and you just get your eardrums blown out and you get the kinda concussion that you usually get from a horrible car accident. Who knows?

• 1:30:52Theo Von?

  Dude.

• 1:30:52Speaker 01

  I would imagine there's like a level where you could be far enough away where it's not death, like instant death, but where's that level? Where is it? It's not close, close you're dead for sure. So like, how far out do you have to be where you, now you're deaf for the rest of your life? Now you can't see, you know, who knows? Now you have no memory of your childhood. It's like a concussion of epic proportions, even if you survive, depending on how far out you are. And then, you know, you get far out enough that it doesn't affect you at all, you could see it from a distance. That's gotta be crazy too, to know that you could've just been over there and you would've been vaporized. Do you hear about the dude that survived Hiroshima? And then he went to Nagasaki to work and then he survived Nagasaki?

• 1:31:34Theo Von?

  Nah, uh, he survived both of them?

• 1:31:35Speaker 01

  He just survived both of them.

• 1:31:36Theo Von?

  Still alive?

• 1:31:37Speaker 01

  Still alive. I think he died recently. But this dude, he went from, yeah, I think he died a while ago now that I'm thinking about it. This dude went, he was in Hiroshima. Bomb blew up. Killed, you know, how many people? Hundred fifty thousand people instantaneously?

• 1:31:53Theo Von?

  Uh huh.

• 1:31:53Speaker 01

  He escapes, gets out, goes to Nagasaki to work. Nagasaki gets hit.

• 1:32:00Speaker 02

  He was less than two miles from the blast zones of both bombs.

• 1:32:03Theo Von?

  Geez. And did he say how he survived each time? What was the guy's name?

• 1:32:08Speaker 02

  I can't pronounce the first name, I'll show you.

• 1:32:10Theo Von?

  Give him some credit.

• 1:32:11Speaker 01

  Give, uh, Theo a shot at it. What's his name?

• 1:32:16Theo Von?

  Uh, Sum- Sumtomo? Sumtomo Yamaguchi.

• 1:32:20Speaker 01

  Yeah. Tetsumo Yamaguchi.

• 1:32:24Theo Von?

  Tetsumo Yamaguchi was less than-

• 1:32:25Speaker 01

  Been in quite a few fires named Yamaguchi.

• 1:32:27Theo Von?

  Two, two files.

• 1:32:28Speaker 01

  Less than two miles from the blast zones of Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings and miraculously survived both without debilitating injuries. "My double radiation exposure is now an official government record," Yamaguchi said. "I can tell you the younger generation the horrifying history of the atomic bombings even before I die."

• 1:32:45Theo Von?

  Do you think we should have done that, Joe, that bomb?

• 1:32:47Speaker 01

  Wow, he lived, he died of stomach cancer at ninety-three.

• 1:32:51Theo Von?

  Oh my god.

• 1:32:52Speaker 01

  That's incredible, he lived that long?

• 1:32:53Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:32:55Speaker 01

  Stomach cancer. One of his because of the bomb. I mean, he died at ninety-three.

• 1:33:00Theo Von?

  But some Asians live very long. You can get a hundred and twenty years out of an Asian.

• 1:33:04Speaker 01

  Do I think we should have dropped the bomb on people? No.

• 1:33:07Theo Von?

  Yeah, me neither.

• 1:33:07Speaker 01

  No, it's fucking insane. It's so insane.

• 1:33:10Theo Von?

  But it just goes to show you that somewhere inside of us, there's an evil that will be evil, you know?

• 1:33:15Speaker 01

  Bro, look at this. No, go, go up, go up, go up. "He opposed the country's role in World War II and became so despondent about the war that he considered killing his wife and infant son with sleeping pills if Japan lost." Holy fuck, dude.

• 1:33:30Theo Von?

  Company man.

• 1:33:31Speaker 01

  Jesus Christ, that's so scary.

• 1:33:33Theo Von?

  It's heartbreaking.

• 1:33:34Speaker 01

  So the sky was lit with a blaze, the lightning of a huge magnesium flare.

• 1:33:39Speaker 02

  They saw the plane coming.

• 1:33:40Speaker 01

  Oh my god. He saw the Enola Gay fly over Hiroshima and drop an item carried by two parachutes. Suddenly, he said, the sky lit with a blaze. Oh my god.

• 1:33:51Theo Von?

  Do you have a bomb shelter? Joe, do you have a bomb? Do you have a bomb shelter at home?

• 1:33:54Speaker 01

  I should probably get one, but I really think that if a, if a nuclear war breaks out, you really wanna be like right where the nuke hits.

• 1:34:01Theo Von?

  You wanna end. You don't wanna be.

• 1:34:02Speaker 01

  You don't wanna live in a zombie apocalypse, like post-war. What am I, what? I think I fainted for a while.

• 1:34:10Speaker 02

  On above.

• 1:34:10Speaker 01

  Oh, the, the ground roared and an ear-shattering noise ripped through the air, tossing Yamaguchi into the air as a fireball imploded overhead. He was dropped face-first into a muddy furrow. The protective measures he took likely saved his life. A woman who had been walking beside him shortly before the blast disappeared altogether. I think I fainted for a while. When I opened my eyes, everything was dark. I couldn't see much. It was like the start of a film at the cinema before the picture has begun. When the blank frames are just flashing up without any sound.

• 1:34:41Theo Von?

  Unreal.

• 1:34:41Speaker 01

  Fuck dude, look at it look like. Fuck.

• 1:34:45Theo Von?

  Can you even fathom, one second it looks one way, and the next second it looks another way?

• 1:34:49Speaker 01

  And no one's ever done this before, that we know of on earth. And then they just decided to drop it on a, a city.

• 1:34:58Speaker 01

  Jesus, and they did it again. Boom, boom.

• 1:35:01Speaker 02

  The scene in the Oppenheimer when they're deciding where to do it, if that's how it went down is crazy.

• 1:35:05Speaker 01

  Nuts.

• 1:35:06Theo Von?

  I gotta watch that.

• 1:35:07Speaker 01

  That movie's crazy.

• 1:35:08Theo Von?

  Is it?

• 1:35:08Speaker 01

  It's crazy. Yeah, because you, you get to see, first of all, that dude, uh, Cillian Murphy, that guy's incredible. He's incredible.

• 1:35:18Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:35:18Speaker 01

  That's the dude from the Peaky Blinders?

• 1:35:20Theo Von?

  Oh yeah.

• 1:35:21Speaker 01

  He's so good. He's such a good actor. And so he like nailed this tortured genius Oppenheimer and this creation that he made.

• 1:35:31Theo Von?

  It'd be so scary, something you thought was probably for a purpose in the beginning and then you changed your mind during it.

• 1:35:36Speaker 01

  Well, also you have to do it because if you don't do it, if the Germans get it, they're gonna kill everybody.

• 1:35:42Speaker 01

  Still wounded and heavily badged, Yamaguchi returned to work on August 9th, the day Nagasaki was bombed. He was providing his supervisor a detailed account of the Hiroshima bombing. When the landscape outside the office suddenly lit up with, in a blinding light. And Yamaguchi fell to the floor as shockwaves destroyed the windows. Suddenly the same white light filled the room, he later recalled. I thought the mushroom cloud had followed me from Hiroshima. Wow, that's crazy.

• 1:36:11Theo Von?

  That's when you just gotta.

• 1:36:13Speaker 01

  That's crazy.

• 1:36:14Theo Von?

  A reinforced stairwell in the office protected the conference room where Yamaguchi and his colleagues were.

• 1:36:18Speaker 01

  Jesus Christ.

• 1:36:21Theo Von?

  They just heard his story and he said, it says, someone took cover in a manner similar to how he described in Hiroshima.

• 1:36:27Speaker 01

  His wife was soaked in black rain and was poisoned, as their daughter later recalled. In the subsequent weeks Yamaguchi suffered high fevers, severe hair loss, continuous vomiting and other symptoms from radiation poisoning. Motherfucker dude.

• 1:36:41Theo Von?

  How much would have to happen in America for things to get to a place where people are just like, every man for himself? Like, do you feel like?

• 1:36:48Speaker 01

  Like that, like that kind of thing, power going out, yeah. What keeps us together is electricity, right now, the way society is structured. We are so dependent upon electricity that without electricity, we don't have anything, we don't have any cooling. We have no ice, we have no way of processing water.

• 1:37:06Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:37:06Speaker 01

  We're fucked, without electricity, we have no transportation, we're, we're really fucked without electricity. Electricity without oil, that any fuel at all, we're doomed, we're fucking doomed and all we have is burning things.

• 1:37:20Theo Von?

  And do you think for the first day, people would be kind of organized, like, let's see what happens here, watching the news? And then the second day shit would get AWOL, like, how quick would people?

• 1:37:28Speaker 01

  As soon as people ran out of food, and that doesn't take long, that's a few days. It's a few days and then everyone's like, oh, I'm gonna get a rifle, learn how to hunt. Good luck.

• 1:37:39Theo Von?

  Not at the last minute. What are you gonna put an ad at the last minute? Sorry, it's so late, guys. Need to learn how to hunt or whatever.

• 1:37:45Speaker 01

  Now, by the way, if everybody goes hunting, here's the dirty secret about hunting. The reason why hunting works is because everybody doesn't hunt. If everybody hunted, there'd be no more animals. They almost did that in the 1800s, man. They started doing what they call market hunting. And market hunting almost wiped out everything in this country. Almost wiped out all the elk, wiped out most of the buffalo, almost wiped out whitetail deer.

• 1:38:08Theo Von?

  Really?

• 1:38:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, man, because people were hunting them.

• 1:38:11Theo Von?

  They could hunt as much as they wanted?

• 1:38:12Speaker 01

  As much as they wanted. There was no regulation and they were selling the meat. And there was no refrigeration, so you have to kill them all the time.

• 1:38:18Theo Von?

  Oh.

• 1:38:19Speaker 01

  So they would hire professional hunters and that's how they would get their meat. And they were just devastating populations of animals. I mean, you've seen the piles of buffalo bones, right? Terrifying. They killed millions of buffalo in a few years. They brought the herds down to nothing in a few years. Got that close to total extinction.

• 1:38:38Theo Von?

  And was that because people were like expanding west and they needed food?

• 1:38:41Speaker 01

  They needed food. They needed the skins. They wanted the tongues. Pickled tongues was a big delicacy on the East Coast. So they would shoot them for their tongue only, which is crazy. So you're taking one of the biggest animals that lives in North America and you're slaughtering it just for the smallest organ, for the smallest thing, their tongue. Yeah, so people did that already. And if there's no power, there's not enough food. There's just not.

• 1:39:08Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:39:08Speaker 01

  We don't have enough wild game for 330 million people for a year. Forget about forever.

• 1:39:13Theo Von?

  We don't, huh?

• 1:39:14Speaker 01

  We don't. We definitely don't. We definitely 100% don't. And the only reason why you can have these giant populations of people like Los Angeles, the only way you can have that is farmers.

• 1:39:24Theo Von?

  Right.

• 1:39:25Speaker 01

  You have to have farmers. You have to have people that are fucking fully dedicated 24 hours a day to growing animals and food all the time to supply those people.

• 1:39:32Theo Von?

  Amen.

• 1:39:33Speaker 01

  So if you looked at the amount of farmers versus the amount of people that they feed, it's crazy.

• 1:39:38Theo Von?

  Oh, it's a great point how exponential it probably is, huh?

• 1:39:40Speaker 01

  Crazy. So if all that's gone, then all those people have no food. And then where are they getting it? Are they gonna be willing to like, how are they gonna learn how to herd cattle?

• 1:39:52Theo Von?

  And the farmers are gonna be sitting there licking their chops.

• 1:39:54Speaker 01

  Well, they're gonna be killed, most likely.

• 1:39:56Theo Von?

  Oh, people are gonna try to get them for their food.

• 1:39:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:39:59Theo Von?

  But the farmers will be ready.

• 1:40:00Speaker 01

  For a while, you know, how long can you hold off millions of people with guns? The United States has more guns than most of the world. We have forty percent of the firearms on earth.

• 1:40:13Theo Von?

  Fuck yeah. They can do it for a while, I guess.

• 1:40:17Speaker 01

  See if that statistic is true. I believe it is. I think the American people have an exponential number in comparison to every other country. We're, we're, we have so much more weapons than any other country. And I think we have more guns than the entire Chinese army by a large amount.

• 1:40:33Theo Von?

  Really?

• 1:40:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, by a large amount. They're just, the American population has more guns.

• 1:40:38Theo Von?

  It's so embedded in our culture, because I'll meet people sometimes and they're like, you, you guys have all these guns. Like, what do you, there's no way to not have guns here.

• 1:40:45Speaker 01

  Well, there's more guns than there are people here.

• 1:40:47Theo Von?

  But how would you even do it if somebody were like, you should get rid of guns, right? Can you hear people say that sometimes? It's like?

• 1:40:51Speaker 01

  Well, you're not gonna get rid of guns altogether. You're not gonna eliminate the technology, right? So the technology, if it exists, someone's gonna have the guns. Who's gonna have those guns? Well, you're gonna have, the government's gonna have the guns. So you're basically giving the guns to people that are known liars, who've been manipulating and controlling people from the beginning of time. You can't have that. And the reason why the United States has such a unique freedom is because the First Amendment is protected by the Second Amendment.

• 1:41:17Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:41:17Speaker 01

  Didn't Chris Rock have a bit about that? I believe he did.

• 1:41:21Theo Von?

  I'm not sure if he did.

• 1:41:22Speaker 01

  I believe Chris Rock had a bit about that.

• 1:41:23Theo Von?

  He probably did.

• 1:41:24Speaker 01

  I think he did.

• 1:41:25Theo Von?

  Um, one last question before we go, Joe.

• 1:41:27Speaker 01

  What's up, Jamie?

• 1:41:27Speaker 02

  Thirty-five to fifty percent of the guns, somewhere in the range of two hundred and seventy million out of the six hundred and forty-five million total.

• 1:41:36Theo Von?

  Guns in America?

• 1:41:37Speaker 02

  Close to forty-two percent. It's a big estimate.

• 1:41:40Speaker 01

  Forty-two percent of the guns in the world, right here, baby. His dog's over there snoring. You know why? Because he can see, he can sleep well.

• 1:41:48Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:41:48Speaker 01

  There's hard men out there with pistols protecting that little dog. Dogs used to be, they used to protect us. Carl ain't protecting nobody.

• 1:41:57Theo Von?

  Carl's fucking-

• 1:41:57Speaker 01

  Carl bites me full blast every day.

• 1:41:59Theo Von?

  Really? He loves that. He loves to meet a man with his face.

• 1:42:03Speaker 01

  He doesn't hurt you.

• 1:42:04Theo Von?

  He doesn't?

• 1:42:04Speaker 01

  No, he's adorable.

• 1:42:05Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:42:06Speaker 01

  But you know what I'm saying? Like, we need to protect Carl. He can't protect us. That's how soft people have gotten.

• 1:42:12Theo Von?

  We gotta-

• 1:42:12Speaker 01

  Listen to more of this snoring.

• 1:42:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:42:16Theo Von?

  Yeah. He sounds like Lee Sayad a little.

• 1:42:19Speaker 01

  When Lee gets too many edibles, they're back. The Church of What's Happening Now is back.

• 1:42:23Theo Von?

  Just saw the first episode.

• 1:42:24Speaker 01

  Isn't that amazing?

• 1:42:25Theo Von?

  So cool.

• 1:42:26Speaker 01

  I was telling Joey for a while, I orchestrated getting the two of them together at the mothership. Like, gotta get you guys together. I was putting it in his ear, I'm like, Joey, you guys gotta bring the band back. He goes, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna. Joey and, and Lee in New, in California, when they had that show.

• 1:42:42Theo Von?

  Oh.

• 1:42:42Speaker 01

  It was in this weird little office building.

• 1:42:45Theo Von?

  So bizarre. You'd park out there, you'd be lucky to find a spot. It had a really eighties vibe out there. They had like one kind of neon kind of light that was kind of like.

• 1:42:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:42:54Theo Von?

  They'd have their door for their office like open a little bit and it didn't seem like it was an office. It seemed like it was a, it was a place where they shot like kind of quick porn over.

• 1:43:02Speaker 01

  Did you ever see the one episode where the, they had an office building at one point in time with a bunch of other people that had office buildings? And Joey was too loud and they were yelling at him to be quiet. He's like, shut the fuck up.

• 1:43:14Theo Von?

  No.

• 1:43:15Speaker 01

  It was amazing.

• 1:43:17Theo Von?

  We used to share a wall with the nail salon for a while.

• 1:43:19Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:43:20Theo Von?

  Yeah, and you, they'd always be chattering in there and yelling about stuff. It was fun.

• 1:43:23Speaker 01

  Oh, that's okay.

• 1:43:24Theo Von?

  Some of that was fun, dude. I remember we used to share a wall with, uh, Fighter and the Kid for a while and that was so much fun. We'd bang on the wall at each other.

• 1:43:30Speaker 01

  You guys had like, there was a bunch of podcasts that were being done in like a couple areas like that in California. Where they had little podcast studio places where like several sets would be.

• 1:43:39Theo Von?

  It was so much fun.

• 1:43:40Speaker 01

  But those guys, they'd always ran into some money problem. There was always like some producer that was taking too much money and they wanted to control the show. And I ran into so many dudes that had podcast deals that went south. And it was again, the same kind of thing, power and corruption.

• 1:43:56Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:43:57Speaker 01

  There was so many guys who had podcast deals and then they, the, the people that they did this, that had this network wound up owning their podcast and selling their podcast. And they were like, what the fuck? They just got robbed.

• 1:44:07Theo Von?

  Yeah, we got robbed. I mean, we got stolen from.

• 1:44:09Speaker 01

  You got literally robbed.

• 1:44:10Theo Von?

  Yeah, but we didn't, uh, we still had ownership, you know?

• 1:44:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, but they stole your ad revenue, right?

• 1:44:15Theo Von?

  Yeah, for a year.

• 1:44:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, man, there was a lot of dirty business in the podcast world.

• 1:44:19Theo Von?

  It was dark.

• 1:44:20Speaker 01

  Well, it's the wild west, right? It was a completely new thing and all of a sudden, when the money spigot. It opened, it just opened like woo like I made no money for like five years. I just did it for funsies. And then all of a sudden the spigot just opened.

• 1:44:33Theo Von?

  Yeah, your spigot. Yeah, really. You're the most open spigot.

• 1:44:37Speaker 01

  Right now, I have the most open spigot.

• 1:44:38Theo Von?

  And congratulations.

• 1:44:39Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 1:44:40Theo Von?

  You work harder than any podcaster by far, man, and you're so great at it, man.

• 1:44:44Speaker 01

  Well, you gotta keep your foot on the gas, son. That's the thing about podcasts or anything else. When you've got, uh, I don't know. If you're like, you're essentially, you're running a business, right? Well, what is the business? The business is interesting content. All right. How much are you actually interested in interesting content? Cause if you're not, it's not gonna work. So you gotta be fully interested, which I am. That's where I'm lucky. I'm lucky that I'm interested in all these things.

• 1:45:07Theo Von?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:45:08Speaker 01

  Paying attention to this shit, even if I wasn't talking about it, I'd be watching podcasts on this kinda shit. Cause I'm interested. I'm interested in ancient civilizations. I'm interested in cultures.

• 1:45:17Theo Von?

  Oh, yeah. Well, we learn a lot of stuff by listening to you learn it, man. So it's cool, you know? Um, I have one question. I know you, one time we were talking about if you ever retired, right?

• 1:45:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:45:27Theo Von?

  And you said maybe you would start painting, maybe if you ever retired?

• 1:45:30Speaker 01

  Did I say that?

• 1:45:31Theo Von?

  Yeah. You could have been, okay?

• 1:45:34Theo Von?

  Even if you were.

• 1:45:34Speaker 01

  I was probably taking some of that Delta eight. What's it called? The stuff they have out here? Delta eight, it's legal. It's a legal loophole, legal weed. Yeah, I'm all fucked up on Delta eight, son.

• 1:45:45Theo Von?

  You had a Delta eight, you had a bit, you had a?

• 1:45:47Speaker 01

  Oh, there's a bunch of Delta eight out here.

• 1:45:48Theo Von?

  But are you still using it?

• 1:45:49Speaker 01

  It's legit.

• 1:45:50Theo Von?

  Oh, yeah, sure it is.

• 1:45:50Speaker 01

  And it's, it is.

• 1:45:51Theo Von?

  It's at a gas station.

• 1:45:54Speaker 01

  Like boner pills. They work. Talk to Red Band.

• 1:45:58Theo Von?

  One of those makes your nose bleed really bad.

• 1:46:00Speaker 01

  Red Band stuff.

• 1:46:01Theo Von?

  Those, um, those, uh, aggressive rhinos, whatever those ones are, they make your fucking nose bleed. Oh.

• 1:46:07Speaker 01

  Red Band's a connoisseur. He'll tell you what the good ones are.

• 1:46:09Theo Von?

  Oh, I've been, I went down the road. I used to get them from India. I used to get all that shit.

• 1:46:13Speaker 01

  India?

• 1:46:13Theo Von?

  Yeah. Um, but what would you paint, dude? That's what I was thinking. I was just thinking about you painting.

• 1:46:16Speaker 01

  I was lying. I was lying.

• 1:46:18Theo Von?

  You were?

• 1:46:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, I had to be. I'm not interested in painting.

• 1:46:21Theo Von?

  Come on, man.

• 1:46:21Speaker 01

  No, man, if I, if I was gonna retire, you know what I would do?

• 1:46:24Theo Von?

  Dude?

• 1:46:25Speaker 01

  You know, if I was gonna retire, I would just bow hunt and play pool. That's what I would do. If I said I don't wanna do anything for money from now on, I would bow hunt and play pool. I try to play pool for money, but I will never win any money. I can never beat the best guys.

• 1:46:38Theo Von?

  If you think you could have devoted so much, as much time, dude, because that's one thing you start to learn about life. It's like, I only have so much time, right? If you could have devoted as much time, you think, do you think you could have been really good at it? Because I know you really loved it.

• 1:46:48Speaker 01

  Pool was a, if pool was a legitimate sport, when I was in my twenties, one hundred percent, I would have become a professional pool player. One hundred percent. I wanted to play pool all the time because it was a, a population of misfits. That's what it was. It wasn't just the game itself. It was the misfits. It was, I always felt like a misfit. When I was a kid, I felt like a misfit. You know, moved around a lot. My parents broke up when I was young. And it's like, I never felt like I fit in anywhere. Until I started hanging around the pool hall. I was like, oh, these guys are just like me. They're all people that, they're just too ADD to ever keep a real job.

• 1:47:25Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:47:25Speaker 01

  They're just nutty people and they all had like different things that they did for money, but what they were really obsessed with was that game. Was playing pool and going to pool halls. Cause you'd go to pool halls and it was a bunch of guys like you. Just a bunch of weirdos who were just wanting to laugh and have fun and play this game.

• 1:47:42Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:47:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:47:44Theo Von?

  Maybe, yeah, that, maybe that would be nice and painting.

• 1:47:48Theo Von?

  Painting.

• 1:47:48Speaker 01

  The problem with painting is, you know, I'd, look, I love art. If I was called to paint, like if it felt like something, maybe I would get into doing it. But that's not what I'm interested in right now, you know?

• 1:48:01Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:48:02Speaker 01

  Maybe I would be, but I don't think so. You know, I think, I think if I retire, I'm just gonna pursue interests. I'm just gonna like learn languages and shit, just do something different.

• 1:48:13Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:48:14Speaker 01

  I don't think, uh, when I stop doing this, I'm ever gonna do anything else publicly. I probably, I won't want to anymore. I'll, I'll get to a point where I think a lot of people get to where they're just like, eh, I'm on off this ride. Do you ever wear a disguise when you go places like if you travel? Every day. I'm wearing a disguise right now.

• 1:48:33Speaker 01

  Like Tall Biden. Remember when they had the fake Biden? Was that real though? Was that a tall guy? It was a tall guy. Get fucked, man. A tall guy pretending to be Biden. 100% wasn't Biden. The CIA has had like super sophisticated outfits. Look, have you seen Adam Ray when he dresses up like Dr. Phil? Yeah, sometimes you forget. Pretty fucking good. He did, we did uh the HEB, he did Biden. Bro, I mean, and this is like easy two hours of makeup. They're not even trying to make him look real. He looks real. He looks, it's crazy. This is him like 20 minutes in his car to, yeah. All you need is a dude with similar face structure to Biden and you can make him Biden. 100% and I think they definitely did that. Fuck. I think there was a point in time where he was laid up. America, we're protecting you Theo Von.

• 1:49:18Speaker 01

  We can't have China think that our president is down! And that Kamala Harris is running the military! Come on, son. We know what we're doing. Pull up the photo, pull up the video of the Tall Biden. Cause ain't no way it's the same dude. Bring his ass up. Cause he wasn't even a little taller. Bring that honky up. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't, it wasn't like, you know what I'm saying? It is the president. It wasn't like, you know, it was like Bobby Lee next to Ari. Yeah. It's like something is different. Not the same guy. Yeah, yeah. He's so much taller. He was like six inches taller. Like not a little taller. And they're like, we got nobody? No, we got nobody. Look at the size of this motherfucker. Oh, get fucked, dude. That's not real, dude.

• 1:50:03Speaker 01

  That's real. Look at the size, look at the size of his legs. Is that Will Ferrell? Bro, that guy's a basketball player. They got some, look at the difference in size. So that's the real Biden. And Trump really met him? And that's the real Obama, right? Real Obama, real Biden. Now go me, give me, give me fake Biden again. No, no, no, fake one. The giant. No, no, no, no, no. The giant one when he's walking around. This one. This video.

• 1:50:31Theo Von?

  Who is that?

• 1:50:32Speaker 01

  Bro, look at how much taller he is than Jill. He's never that much taller than Jill. Jill's wearing heels, son. Look at her heels. See her heels elevated in the back? She's wearing heels. He's towering over her. That's a giant Biden. That's Sasquatch.

• 1:50:47Theo Von?

  Wow, that's really, really interesting.

• 1:50:51Speaker 01

  Do people have done like a comparison to his height compared to like what he normally is?

• 1:50:55Theo Von?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:50:56Speaker 01

  Tall Biden was a real thing.

• 1:50:58Theo Von?

  Oh. Do you think, what happens to him after he goes away in office? What happens to him?

• 1:51:03Speaker 01

  Jimmy Carter. He votes like this.

• 1:51:05Theo Von?

  You think?

• 1:51:07Speaker 01

  He can't wait to vote for Pete Buttigieg.

• 1:51:11Speaker 01

  They roll him out there.

• 1:51:12Theo Von?

  Who controls Joe Biden if he's not controlling himself?

• 1:51:14Speaker 01

  Whoever is letting him fucking pardon eight million people.

• 1:51:19Theo Von?

  Some of the guys said they don't want the pardon. You see that?

• 1:51:21Speaker 01

  Bro, he's pardoned more people than anybody ever by a long shot. He's got all timers.

• 1:51:26Theo Von?

  Tiger King too, somebody said.

• 1:51:27Speaker 01

  Oh, he better pardon Tiger King.

• 1:51:28Theo Von?

  I think he did. Didn't he just get, somebody said he just pardoned him.

• 1:51:31Speaker 01

  Did he? That can't be real.

• 1:51:35Speaker 02

  It's a little overinflated because of all the marijuana charges that got added in.

• 1:51:38Theo Von?

  For Tiger King?

• 1:51:40Speaker 02

  They threw all those people in. No, and Joe Biden's pardoned.

• 1:51:42Theo Von?

  Oh, I want to see that mad slurper get back out.

• 1:51:45Speaker 01

  That's a good thing that he's doing that, but it's still, he's still pardoning more people than anybody ever.

• 1:51:49Theo Von?

  Bro, when Tiger King gets back out here, fucking wait, America.

• 1:51:52Speaker 01

  He'll be a guest on this podcast with a knee brace, pistol on his hip.

• 1:51:56Theo Von?

  With that whip?

• 1:51:57Speaker 01

  Yeah. He'll try to fuck Jamie for sure.

• 1:51:59Theo Von?

  Oh, he's gonna fuck his slurp on somebody, dude.

• 1:52:01Speaker 01

  Again, lobbies for presidential pardon. Jamie, what are the odds this guy tries to fuck you if we bring him in the studio? No way. It's 100%.

• 1:52:08Theo Von?

  Not that he's going to fuck you.

• 1:52:09Speaker 01

  No way would he.

• 1:52:10Speaker 02

  He'd be the first one on his list. I don't have all the people in the building. I don't know.

• 1:52:13Speaker 01

  You're the guy who moves on. No, no, no, no, no.

• 1:52:16Theo Von?

  We'll hold him back by the hips. We'll have ground.

• 1:52:17Speaker 01

  He moves on you.

• 1:52:18Theo Von?

  We'll have side control on him, but.

• 1:52:19Speaker 01

  He moves on you. You're a nice guy.

• 1:52:21Speaker 02

  I shaved my mustache.

• 1:52:22Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:52:22Speaker 01

  Maybe that's what it is, the mustache. He's trying. He's trying, but they're not gonna let him out. And they, maybe they should. I don't know.

• 1:52:30Theo Von?

  I don't know. I wonder if he got out of this, wonder where, what kind of job he would get into. They're not gonna let him work offshore or whatever.

• 1:52:36Speaker 01

  Stuffed animals. Sell his own stuffed animals. Yeah, open his own Build-A-Bear. Build a tiger. You know?

• 1:52:43Theo Von?

  He's just in there helping you stuff it?

• 1:52:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, you stuff it and then the little recording thing when you have a little thing in there where you press the button and it gives a little recording. One of my kids, I used to have one for one of my daughters where she'd squeeze it and it said daddy loves you.

• 1:52:57Theo Von?

  Oh, that's sweet.

• 1:52:58Speaker 01

  It was adorable. That's what he's gonna do. He's gonna do that for people.

• 1:53:00Theo Von?

  Same thing. I wanna suck your cock. Daddy loves you. I wanna suck your cock.

• 1:53:10Theo Von?

  Hey, what you doing with all that cock?

• 1:53:13Speaker 01

  I think this is his copy.

• 1:53:15Theo Von?

  Take me to the river.

• 1:53:16Speaker 01

  I'm looking around just Twitter and he tweeted that yesterday.

• 1:53:19Theo Von?

  No, he didn't.

• 1:53:20Speaker 01

  Look at that. Please repost, comment and tag anyone if you can show support right now more than ever.

• 1:53:26Theo Von?

  Why am I in the back? Is that really true?

• 1:53:28Speaker 01

  That's a real photo. You don't forget it happening? You don't remember that podcast? That was right after you did Bernie Sanders. That guy came in.

• 1:53:37Speaker 01

  What is it like for you? Can I ask you this? You're like interviewing legitimate people now. Like you interviewed Trump. You interviewed Bernie Sanders. You interviewed, um, who else? J D Walsh? Who else you interviewed? You've interviewed a lot of like very interesting people. Are you enjoying that?

• 1:53:56Theo Von?

  Yeah, I think I am, man. I think it's been, I've been trying to learn more, you know, so that's been one of my goals.

• 1:54:00Speaker 01

  You're doing a great job. Cause you, I mean, you get silly, you're still yourself, you know, you're still silly, but you're having like real conversations with these people.

• 1:54:07Theo Von?

  Thanks.

• 1:54:08Speaker 01

  You know, Bobby Kennedy.

• 1:54:09Theo Von?

  Yeah, for sure. I mean, I knew Bobby, which was lucky. And we were going through Vermont and Bernie said he would come on the podcast. So that was super fortunate. And then, um, Dana helped. You know, I wanted to talk to Trump because his brother had died of alcoholism and it was like a world that I had like spent a lot of my life like, you know, in and dealing with. And so I wanted to like,

• 1:54:30Theo Von?

  just see what he, like if he was normal about something like that, I guess. So, yeah, but I think it's been interesting. Um, I think it felt like a lot of responsive. I got, I, I started to have some ego issues. I think I was just trying to be like. You know, just know what you're doing, man. Like, you don't have some big responsibility. I think I had this ego trap where it maybe felt, I just had to kind of manage some stuff for a little bit. But I've been feeling better now, I think, um.

• 1:54:54Speaker 01

  Like, what, what was the trap?

• 1:54:56Theo Von?

  I think you just start to think, oh, well, I'm important, right? And it's okay if I am like, it's okay if I have importance to myself and, and there's things that I want to like, examine and learn for myself and, and that sort of thing.

• 1:55:08Speaker 01

  But your role as an important person.

• 1:55:10Theo Von?

  Right.

• 1:55:11Speaker 01

  You started thinking about that because you're getting a lot of views.

• 1:55:13Theo Von?

  Right. I think it started to just scare me. So I just, I got nervous and then I had people that would ask me about stuff that I felt like I didn't know about, or people would think that I knew more than I did, or like I had something to do with like the election, like things like that made me super kind of nervous.

• 1:55:27Speaker 01

  Got it.

• 1:55:28Theo Von?

  And so I think I just was kind of trying to manage that for a bit and, um, but I've been feeling like better about it. I, and I know some places are things to be funny, some places are things that mean something to me. Just like learning about healthcare and people getting screwed, like there are some like smaller causes, I can't learn about everything, but there are some things that I do care about that I can like, like seek more information about, you know?

• 1:55:49Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:55:50Theo Von?

  And then to just try to get more interested in things, like just be, you know, learn about, want to open myself up to learn about more things, you know? So.

• 1:55:58Speaker 01

  That's the key, is like knowing when to just listen, when to, when to try to be funny, just fuck around. Learn how to be yourself.

• 1:56:05Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:56:06Speaker 01

  The more you do them, the more relaxed you get when you do them, you know?

• 1:56:09Theo Von?

  Yeah, that happens too. I mean, this is probably the most relaxed I've felt like being around you today, you know?

• 1:56:14Speaker 01

  Around me?

• 1:56:14Theo Von?

  Yeah, I think I, I, I, I just like, yeah, sometimes that you get nervous.

• 1:56:19Speaker 01

  Do you get nervous just because so many people are listening? Is that what it is? The numbers?

• 1:56:23Theo Von?

  Yeah, I think at first, and then I think, um, yeah, I mean, I look up to you, I think, and so like, or, you know, and you're, you know, you're the champ, you're the best. And so it's like. I don't know if it's a nerve, I don't know what it is, but there's, sometimes I feel some thing, you know?

• 1:56:38Speaker 01

  Well, thank you, but you don't need to, you don't need to feel that, like, you and I have been friends for a long fucking time, you can be yourself.

• 1:56:43Theo Von?

  Yeah, you remind me of that, and I appreciate it, you know, cause it does, it does help, I think it's just like an old thing of like, um, it's like an old energy thing that doesn't make any sense anymore.

• 1:56:51Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:56:52Theo Von?

  You know?

• 1:56:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:56:53Theo Von?

  But sometimes like that template is still there a little bit.

• 1:56:55Speaker 01

  Right, right, well, that's a Hollywood template, right? Like, the people that are more established and bigger, it's like, oh, there's Johnny Carson.

• 1:57:02Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:57:02Speaker 01

  You know, there's that, you know, gets...

• 1:57:03Theo Von?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:57:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:57:05Theo Von?

  Yeah, you always, anytime I think that way, you always bring it back down to a super normal place, so thank you, um...

• 1:57:11Speaker 01

  But it should be super normal, that's really the appeal of all this that we do, is that it is super normal, is that a guy like you can have no pretense and just ask Bernie Sanders questions, like, why the fuck are they getting away with this, like, why, why is it structured this way, why are all these corporations stealing all this money and fucking everybody out all these, you know, why is, why is this happening?

• 1:57:30Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:57:30Speaker 01

  And those are, it's, if you can have those real conversations, this is the only place where they exist, then you're never gonna get these kinda conversations on a late night talk show. You don't, you're not gonna get them, they don't have these kinda, that, there's, it's not possible, you, you can't go into depth about things, there's no way you can go for hours and hours just talking to people, you can't do it.

• 1:57:49Theo Von?

  Yeah. Yeah, man, and I think it's interesting, it's like, you know, there's still things that I wanna do in my life personally, and there's, like, talking with people has helped me a ton. You know, like, even just confidence from being like, you know, from getting to talk with different UFC fighters and things over the years, like, there's a lot of, like, people that I've gotten to speak to, or people I've heard on your shows and other shows, that inspire me, like, in little moments of my life, you know, like, it's important, you know, um... Yeah, so I, I, I don't know, I definitely, I, I mean, I feel like, you know, I just wanna, you know, try my best, keep learning, I don't know, and just have a good time, too.

• 1:58:23Speaker 01

  Well, you, you seem like you're having a good time.

• 1:58:25Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:58:25Speaker 01

  And you're doing a great job, you really are, and you're getting really good at it, like, the more you do it, the better you get at it, you can really tell. There's a lot of good people podcasting now, it's an awesome time.

• 1:58:34Theo Von?

  You and Tim Dillon, so, did that episode, the last one you guys did?

• 1:58:37Speaker 01

  He's the best, he's, he's the absolute best at the rant.

• 1:58:42Theo Von?

  No, nobody else.

• 1:58:43Speaker 01

  No champ like him. He's the number one. He's the Michael Jordan of the rant.

• 1:58:47Theo Von?

  Yeah, even seeing Shane, seeing Shane for literally, my mom texted me last night. She's like, I, uh, that Shane Gillis, he just makes some of the best faces.

• 1:58:56Speaker 01

  Right away.

• 1:58:57Theo Von?

  And so even earlier, we go back to, you're like, I got Shane Gillis back here. I thought you were, it was like a new beverage or something you had made. And, uh, so I go back and there's a sauna back there by your gym.

• 1:59:07Speaker 01

  You never saw the gym before. I can't believe you never saw the gym. Gym's pretty dope, right?

• 1:59:12Theo Von?

  Yeah, the gym's great, but I didn't think you had a Shane Gillis on tap. So we fucking go in there and there's a meat closet where you're drying aged beef.

• 1:59:21Speaker 01

  I actually do have one of those.

• 1:59:22Theo Von?

  Of course. And the fucking, there's a fucking full body strap of Shane Gillis hanging in that bitch. And he just puts his head up near the glass and that moment alone, like, oh, that was the best.

• 1:59:34Speaker 01

  Doesn't it make you want to move here?

• 1:59:35Theo Von?

  Yeah, it definitely helps, man. I'm gonna start, I'm starting to look, cause I'm not having, I gotta get a family soon too, dude.

• 1:59:41Speaker 01

  Get yourself a nice Texas girl.

• 1:59:43Theo Von?

  I am, I'm, I'm, I am, I'm motivated.

• 1:59:45Speaker 01

  Ladies, let's put that energy out there. Get Theo a nice Texas girl. I know they're out here. There's a ton of them out here. This is the greatest place in the world to be a single guy like you.

• 1:59:54Theo Von?

  Is it?

• 1:59:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:59:55Theo Von?

  It seems very diverse here too, like.

• 1:59:57Speaker 01

  People are friendly. They're genuinely friendly and they're not friendly because they want something from you like LA. They're not friendly because you're famous and friendly because they want to get famous too. They're just friendly.

• 2:00:07Theo Von?

  Oh yeah, they're fun.

• 2:00:08Speaker 01

  Nice people living their life.

• 2:00:10Theo Von?

  They're fun, boy.

• 2:00:11Speaker 01

  Theo Von, I love you to death.

• 2:00:12Theo Von?

  I love you too, man.

• 2:00:13Speaker 01

  Thanks for everything. This is the end of part two.

• 2:00:16Theo Von?

  There it is. That's both of them. Jamie, thanks so much, dude. Nice to meet your dog for the second time.

• 2:00:20Speaker 01

  Powerful Carl. Look at him over there. Is he awake yet? He's waiting.

• 2:00:25Theo Von?

  He wakes up when?

• 2:00:26Speaker 01

  He wakes up right around now. He's like, probably about time for me to get up, start terrorizing people again.

• 2:00:33Theo Von?

  Like China.

• 2:00:34Speaker 01

  All right. Bye, everybody.

• 2:00:46Speaker 04

  The 50th Hunger Games. Witness the beginning of the revolution. Hey Mitch, you've been trying to take down these games from the start. Filmed for IMAX. Make them remember you. The Hunger Games: Sunrise on the Reaping, November 20th, rated PG-13.