Perrie Edwards In The Hang Out on Solo Pressure, Little Mix Nostalgia, & Hilarious Misheard Lyrics!

The question mark is on the door for a Mystery Door Monday… Ant was concerned there hasn’t been a severe lack of Geordie energy on the show, so he’s invited fellow Geordie and popstar onto the show - it's the amazing Perrie Edwards! Perrie fills us in on how she’s found becoming a mother of two, her new music and what it was really like winning X Factor and having to leave home age 17. She also talks about the pressure of being a solo artist when you’ve come from a group, and shares her thoughts on how LeighAnne will fair in the new Celebrity Traitors. Along with the boys, they go through some of your misheard lyrics that have us howling. Join us on Thursday for another main ep - but until then, keep your correspondence coming and respect guys! ----- Your personal data will be handled in accordance with applicable data protection laws and will only be retained for as long as is reasonably necessary for production, editorial, legal and compliance purposes. You can read more about our privacy policy at: ⁠https://www.mitrestudios.com/privacy-policy/⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 2:03Ant McPartlin?

  What's that?

• 2:04Declan Donnelly?

  It's my table.

• 2:05Ant McPartlin?

  Huh?

• 2:06Declan Donnelly?

  It's my table.

• 2:06Ant McPartlin?

  What do you mean by the table?

• 2:08Declan Donnelly?

  Hello, everybody!

• 2:09Ant McPartlin?

  Hello, everybody!

• 2:10Declan Donnelly?

  Welcome back to the hangout, for another hanging out with him and me.

• 2:12Ant McPartlin?

  Welcome back to the hangout. For another hanging out with me and him.

• 2:15Declan Donnelly?

  Why are you sitting all the way over there?

• 2:16Ant McPartlin?

  Why? Well, this is where normally you sit.

• 2:18Declan Donnelly?

  Well, what's all this about?

• 2:20Ant McPartlin?

  Well, that is because it is Mystery Door Monday.

• 2:24Declan Donnelly?

  Why have you got two cups of tea?

• 2:25Ant McPartlin?

  And you don't... They're both for me, actually.

• 2:27Declan Donnelly?

  Thirsty boy?

• 2:28Ant McPartlin?

  No, they are. They are both for me.

• 2:30Declan Donnelly?

  Why?

• 2:31Ant McPartlin?

  Because one was cold.

• 2:34Ant McPartlin?

  But it wasn't cold enough. So I asked for a cold water.

• 2:38Declan Donnelly?

  Oh, it's water?

• 2:39Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah.

• 2:39Declan Donnelly?

  I thought your tea was cold.

• 2:41Ant McPartlin?

  Nah, water.

• 2:44Declan Donnelly?

  Cold water, he's got, he's got two cups here, if you're just listening. So water in one of your cups and tea in the other.

• 2:49Ant McPartlin?

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:50Declan Donnelly?

  What, what's in?

• 2:51Ant McPartlin?

  Bob water.

• 2:54Declan Donnelly?

  Why?

• 2:55Ant McPartlin?

  Because one wasn't, it wasn't cold enough. And I thought I don't want to waste it.

• 2:58Declan Donnelly?

  So you've got a room temperature water?

• 3:00Ant McPartlin?

  Mm, it's still pretty cold.

• 3:02Declan Donnelly?

  And a colder one?

• 3:03Ant McPartlin?

  A really cold one.

• 3:04Declan Donnelly?

  Alright, alright, J Lo.

• 3:06Ant McPartlin?

  Huh?

• 3:07Declan Donnelly?

  What's on your rider? Room temperature water and a cold water?

• 3:10Ant McPartlin?

  And biscuits. No, the biscuits are because we've got a very special guest this week.

• 3:14Declan Donnelly?

  It's not even a plate of biscuits, that is a veritable platter.

• 3:16Ant McPartlin?

  It is a platter of biscuits. Because we've got a very special guest who Dex knows nothing about.

• 3:23Declan Donnelly?

  I can declare I do not know who this week's guest is.

• 3:25Ant McPartlin?

  I can declare I do know for the first time, I think, on this whole series of Mystery Door Mondays.

• 3:31Declan Donnelly?

  I think it is, I think it's the first time you know and I don't.

• 3:33Ant McPartlin?

  Good, right?

• 3:34Declan Donnelly?

  Hmm.

• 3:35Ant McPartlin?

  You don't like being out of control, do you? You're quite a control freak!

• 3:38Declan Donnelly?

  A little.

• 3:38Ant McPartlin?

  He's a little freak!

• 3:39Declan Donnelly?

  A little bit uncomfortable.

• 3:40Ant McPartlin?

  He's a little freak!

• 3:41Declan Donnelly?

  Can I ask you a question?

• 3:42Ant McPartlin?

  He's a little freak, sorry, I just like... Stay calm, you freak!

• 3:46Declan Donnelly?

  Can I ask you a question?

• 3:47Ant McPartlin?

  Uh-huh.

• 3:48Declan Donnelly?

  Do you feel weird drinking water out of a cup?

• 3:51Ant McPartlin?

  No.

• 3:52Declan Donnelly?

  I feel weird now drinking water out of a cup.

• 3:54Ant McPartlin?

  Why?

• 3:55Declan Donnelly?

  I haven't done it for ages, I drink water...

• 3:56Ant McPartlin?

  Just via common?

• 3:57Declan Donnelly?

  Water out of a glass. But how do you drink water out of a cup? Do you drink water out of a cup? I like water out of a cup. Do you? I prefer to drink it out of a plastic.

• 4:04Ant McPartlin?

  Cup when I'm at home. A plastic cup? Yeah, I feel like a. What are you, a toddler? Yeah.

• 4:09Declan Donnelly?

  A sucky cup.

• 4:12Ant McPartlin?

  You know when you get the water bottles and like, see you get the everyone, they've got the little sucky thing at the top?

• 4:17Declan Donnelly?

  Oh, yeah.

• 4:18Ant McPartlin?

  Oh, I can't stand them. I hate them things. I have to screw them off. That's what I always have. Where? Here. Oh, you've actively went out and bought one? Yeah. You're psycho. You're the freak? You're all little freaks. Are you doing all right or shall I just bring in the mystery guest?

• 4:37Declan Donnelly?

  I've been great. I'm, I'm, I'm looking forward to the World Cup, but I guess we're not going to talk about that.

• 4:41Ant McPartlin?

  Not really. What's that got to do anything?

• 4:44Declan Donnelly?

  Well, just the football season's finished now.

• 4:46Ant McPartlin?

  Uh huh.

• 4:46Declan Donnelly?

  That's all put to bed.

• 4:47Ant McPartlin?

  And now you're looking forward to the World Cup?

• 4:49Declan Donnelly?

  I'm looking forward to the World Cup. I couldn't get my head in the World Cup while there was still domestic programme going on.

• 4:54Ant McPartlin?

  I agree.

• 4:55Declan Donnelly?

  So now.

• 4:55Ant McPartlin?

  I agree.

• 4:56Declan Donnelly?

  I'm looking forward to the World Cup.

• 4:57Ant McPartlin?

  Okay, good. Good. We'll chat about that later.

• 4:59Declan Donnelly?

  Okay.

• 5:00Ant McPartlin?

  We should do like, we should do a World Cup special though. Don't you think?

• 5:05Declan Donnelly?

  Yes.

• 5:05Ant McPartlin?

  I can World Cup draw.

• 5:06Declan Donnelly?

  Shall we do a World Cup special? Like Gary Lineker, he's going to New York and he's going to do all his podcasts from New York. Shall we do that?

• 5:11Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah, but yeah, yeah, no.

• 5:15Declan Donnelly?

  No?

• 5:16Ant McPartlin?

  No, we can't do that.

• 5:17Declan Donnelly?

  Okay, we're not allowed.

• 5:18Ant McPartlin?

  We could just do a draw maybe.

• 5:19Declan Donnelly?

  Okay.

• 5:20Ant McPartlin?

  And talk about it a lot.

• 5:21Declan Donnelly?

  Okay.

• 5:22Ant McPartlin?

  Right, we should get cracking and wait hopefully for a knock on the door, which will signify our very special guest coming in to the studio. That knock is not happening. But I will keep talking about it until that knock does happen. Still not there. There's still no knock at the door. Oh, there it is. There it is. Right. Shall I get it?

• 5:45Declan Donnelly?

  Yes, please.

• 5:46Ant McPartlin?

  Okay.

• 5:47Declan Donnelly?

  I'm excited.

• 5:48Ant McPartlin?

  Please welcome the very special guest. That is fellow Geordie.

• 5:53Declan Donnelly?

  It's Karina Wood.

• 5:56Ant McPartlin?

  Hello, how are you?

• 5:57Declan Donnelly?

  Hi.

• 5:58Ant McPartlin?

  Come on in.

• 6:00Declan Donnelly?

  Come on in.

• 6:01Ant McPartlin?

  How are you? Geordie was a special guest. Yes, you are.

• 6:03Declan Donnelly?

  That's a very nice surprise. And it's not always great surprises.

• 6:06Ant McPartlin?

  Oh, really?

• 6:07Declan Donnelly?

  But this is a great surprise.

• 6:08Ant McPartlin?

  It is a very good surprise. So I was up in Newcastle and I have been up in Newcastle, seen the family, seen my daughter who's at uni there. And I was like, we've got to get more Geordie guests on the podcast.

• 6:19Declan Donnelly?

  We're lacking in Geordies.

• 6:20Ant McPartlin?

  Nice. Okay. Would you like, would you like a warmer room temperature or cold? Oh.

• 6:25Speaker 04

  Cold, please.

• 6:27Ant McPartlin?

  There it is, there it is, there it is.

• 6:29Speaker 04

  Oh, thank you so much.

• 6:30Declan Donnelly?

  How do you feel about drinking your water out of a cup?

• 6:32Speaker 04

  It's a bit odd, isn't it?

• 6:33Declan Donnelly?

  It is a bit weird, isn't it? Yes.

• 6:35Ant McPartlin?

  I'm cool with it. I've got two on the go.

• 6:38Speaker 04

  I can see that. Are they both water?

• 6:39Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah.

• 6:41Speaker 04

  Okay, that's random.

• 6:42Ant McPartlin?

  Well, that one's really cold and that one's just cold.

• 6:44Speaker 04

  Like, I like a cup of tea in a cup. It's a hug in a mug, isn't it? So it's like, something warm and, mm, glossy.

• 6:50Declan Donnelly?

  I think when you drink water, are you drinking it out of a glass or a bottle?

• 6:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's a bit odd, but I'm not complaining though. Thank you anyway.

• 6:58Declan Donnelly?

  Have a little go on it. What do you think of that?

• 7:00Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's fine. It's great. Thank you.

• 7:03Declan Donnelly?

  I find it weird.

• 7:04Ant McPartlin?

  So how are you? Thanks for agreeing to come in.

• 7:06Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 7:07Ant McPartlin?

  And make this even more Geordie than it already is.

• 7:09Speaker 04

  Yeah. Have you had many Geordies on yet?

• 7:12Declan Donnelly?

  Hmm, just me and you.

• 7:13Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah.

• 7:13Declan Donnelly?

  Um.

• 7:14Speaker 04

  Oh, no.

• 7:15Declan Donnelly?

  That's it.

• 7:15Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah, no, we haven't.

• 7:16Declan Donnelly?

  You're the first Geordie guest.

• 7:17Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah, you are.

• 7:18Declan Donnelly?

  Yes.

• 7:18Ant McPartlin?

  We've talked about Newcastle a lot, obviously.

• 7:20Speaker 04

  Right.

• 7:21Ant McPartlin?

  Do you miss it? Do you go back a lot?

• 7:23Speaker 04

  I do. I try to. I think 'cause my family are from all over the place. I've got Weymouth family.

• 7:29Ant McPartlin?

  Right.

• 7:29Speaker 04

  Then I've got, my nana is still in Shields and then I've got my brother still there. But then a lot of my family, they just live everywhere.

• 7:37Declan Donnelly?

  Because you were born in the North East, but then didn't you travel around a bit?

• 7:39Speaker 04

  So I was born in the North East, then I moved to Weymouth.

• 7:43Ant McPartlin?

  Right.

• 7:43Speaker 04

  Then I moved back to the North East, then we moved to New Zealand.

• 7:47Ant McPartlin?

  Bloody hell.

• 7:48Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's so random. And then I spent a year and a half in New Zealand. And then I used to speak like with a Kiwi accent.

• 7:54Ant McPartlin?

  Did you?

• 7:55Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 7:55Declan Donnelly?

  How old were you then?

• 7:56Speaker 04

  Like 11.

• 7:57Declan Donnelly?

  Right.

• 7:57Speaker 04

  And then I came back and then I stayed the rest of my days in South Shields.

• 8:02Ant McPartlin?

  So that's how you got the accent, well and truly back?

• 8:05Speaker 04

  Yeah, I've been everywhere.

• 8:06Declan Donnelly?

  That's crazy.

• 8:07Speaker 04

  Weird, isn't it?

• 8:08Declan Donnelly?

  What was New Zealand like?

• 8:09Speaker 04

  Unbelievable. The best experience of my entire life.

• 8:12Ant McPartlin?

  Was it?

• 8:12Speaker 04

  We loved it, yeah.

• 8:13Ant McPartlin?

  Would you ever retire there? Have you got plans to take the kids there?

• 8:17Speaker 04

  I don't know, because I think like when I was a kid, I loved it so much. And I remember coming home from school one day and my mom being like, right, we're going back to England. And we were like, why? You've ruined it our lives. And she was like, because I just want to go back. And I understand it now that I'm an adult and I've got kids and I know what it's like. But when you're going to school and you're making friends and you're making a community and you're making a life for yourself, it's different. My mom had nobody. And when I think about it now, I'm like, I don't know how she coped for even a year and a half.

• 8:43Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah.

• 8:43Speaker 04

  It must have been so lonely not having friends and family there.

• 8:46Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah.

• 8:47Speaker 04

  And I get why she wanted to move back. So in hindsight, I'm glad we did because obviously then I did X Factor and won. And that did really well.

• 8:56Ant McPartlin?

  We would have brought that up if you hadn't mentioned it, of course.

• 9:00Speaker 04

  You know, keeping it humble, but yeah, so it was like the best thing that could have happened, really.

• 9:03Declan Donnelly?

  And also like going to New Zealand, it's not like you can pop home. You literally can't be further away.

• 9:09Speaker 04

  Yeah, she felt so isolated. And do you know what? Bless her heart, she got really chubby because all she did was bake. She was so bored. All she did was bake. She got into baking bread, baking.

• 9:19Declan Donnelly?

  She got so chubby.

• 9:22Speaker 04

  She did, bless her heart. She was just so bored. She hated it there.

• 9:25Ant McPartlin?

  Was the weather good where you were? Because it's not always great. It depends where you are in New Zealand.

• 9:29Speaker 04

  It rained a lot. Yeah, it rained a lot. But I just loved the lifestyle there.

• 9:33Ant McPartlin?

  Oh, because I always think that when we do I'm a Celebrity every year in Australia, the kids play outside all the time. The lifestyle is really cool.

• 9:41Speaker 04

  Yeah, I love Australia as well, to be fair.

• 9:43Declan Donnelly?

  Yeah, it's amazing.

• 9:44Speaker 04

  It is nice. I could imagine myself living there, but it's just so far.

• 9:48Declan Donnelly?

  It's far away.

• 9:48Speaker 04

  It's a decision. I think once you make that decision, you kind of have to stick with it for a little while at least. You can't just get up and go back.

• 9:55Ant McPartlin?

  No.

• 9:55Declan Donnelly?

  Well, you can't, you can't, yeah, man.

• 9:56Ant McPartlin?

  If you get a bit chubby, then it's, if it's understanding, though, if you pull a couple of pounds on.

• 10:01Declan Donnelly?

  I'm just going to nip on and lose some weight.

• 10:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, bless her.

• 10:04Ant McPartlin?

  No, but I have thought about like in the future, maybe spend, yeah, maybe I would.

• 10:08Speaker 04

  Of all the places in the whole world, would it be Australia?

• 10:10Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah, and especially the Gold Coast area where we shoot I'm a Celebrity. It's just so lovely.

• 10:15Speaker 04

  The food's so good there as well.

• 10:16Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah, it is really good. And the coffee's so good.

• 10:18Speaker 04

  Yeah, everything's good.

• 10:20Ant McPartlin?

  But what we've never done is we've never explored really the rest of Australia. We just know that one. Apart from years ago, when we were releasing music, we went to Melbourne and Sydney. And that was it, was it? Brisbane? But we haven't ever done like the Northern Territory. Yeah, we need to, I'd love to.

• 10:38Declan Donnelly?

  Maybe we'll do a documentary one day that we, we explore the rest of Australia.

• 10:42Ant McPartlin?

  Do you want to come along?

• 10:43Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 10:43Ant McPartlin?

  Okay.

• 10:44Speaker 04

  That would be really good.

• 10:45Declan Donnelly?

  And then we've got New Zealand.

• 10:46Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 10:47Declan Donnelly?

  Do some baking.

• 10:47Speaker 04

  And I'll show you around. Do some baking. No, you'd love New Zealand. Honestly, it's so nice.

• 10:52Ant McPartlin?

  In documentaries, when you go back to your old house, this is where I used to live.

• 10:56Speaker 04

  I would love to go back to my old house. Sometimes I stalk it on Google Maps.

• 10:59Declan Donnelly?

  Do you? Do you?

• 11:00Speaker 04

  Yeah, because I lived in Tamahiri at first and we lived in a. Massive house with a pool because obviously back then you got more for you.

• 11:07Declan Donnelly?

  Yeah.

• 11:07Speaker 04

  Pounds, didn't you?

• 11:08Declan Donnelly?

  Yeah.

• 11:08Speaker 04

  Not now. But back in the day, we were like, all right. And then the next house we moved to, because we moved around a lot in New Zealand too. Don't be fooled, Deb's loves a move. And I remember, I remember that house and I look at it all the time on maps. Just to reminisce.

• 11:24Declan Donnelly?

  That's nice though.

• 11:25Ant McPartlin?

  That is nice.

• 11:26Speaker 04

  Yeah, it was lovely.

• 11:27Ant McPartlin?

  Did you ever, did you never do any promo down there with Little Mix or anything?

• 11:30Speaker 04

  Yeah, we did. And I wanted to go like my old school and see people, but we never really got to. Again, it was like in and out. When we did the gig, we left Australia, we had a bit more free time. And I did a radio show out there once and they flew my best friend over from New Zealand.

• 11:46Declan Donnelly?

  That's such a.

• 11:46Ant McPartlin?

  Sorry, but the question mark just fell off the door.

• 11:48Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 11:49Declan Donnelly?

  It's because that was such a good story.

• 11:51Speaker 04

  Really? I thought something was slid under the door like a little.

• 11:53Declan Donnelly?

  Note.

• 11:54Speaker 04

  Note or something. I was thinking.

• 11:55Ant McPartlin?

  It's your best friend.

• 11:59Declan Donnelly?

  You haven't seen us since.

• 12:01Speaker 04

  That was lit. No, but it was really nice that they did that. I was buzzing.

• 12:03Declan Donnelly?

  That is cute.

• 12:04Speaker 04

  Haven't seen her for years.

• 12:05Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah, lovely.

• 12:06Speaker 04

  And they flew her over. It was really cool.

• 12:08Declan Donnelly?

  That's amazing.

• 12:09Ant McPartlin?

  Talking of family and friends, how was your family?

• 12:11Speaker 04

  Yeah, good.

• 12:12Ant McPartlin?

  Kids all right?

• 12:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, love it. I know, it's wild going from one to two.

• 12:17Declan Donnelly?

  It's, it's different, isn't it?

• 12:19Speaker 04

  It's the dynamic shift.

• 12:20Declan Donnelly?

  And I think your two are pretty similar to my two. Was there like three or four years difference between them?

• 12:26Speaker 04

  Sax was four and a half.

• 12:27Declan Donnelly?

  Right.

• 12:28Speaker 04

  And cheese and potato. Fresh potato.

• 12:32Declan Donnelly?

  Fresh out the oven.

• 12:32Speaker 04

  Yes, fresh out the oven. She's gorgeous. Like Axel loves her. She's a bit boring for him right now.

• 12:37Declan Donnelly?

  Yeah.

• 12:37Speaker 04

  But he keeps getting cute aggression with her. Like he keeps going.

• 12:43Declan Donnelly?

  Just wanna squish you.

• 12:44Speaker 04

  And I'm like, all right, be gentle. And he's like, yeah. And he do, you do, you do. It's so funny though, because he's just not like that in general, when he's around her. But same with Alex.

• 12:53Ant McPartlin?

  That means he'll be.

• 12:54Speaker 04

  They both are.

• 12:57Speaker 04

  I'm like, look at that too. It's so weird. I feel like having a girl in the dynamic has really softened the boys, I don't know. But I never thought I was gonna have a girl, ever.

• 13:07Declan Donnelly?

  Did you not?

• 13:07Speaker 04

  I just thought I was gonna be a soccer mom forever.

• 13:09Declan Donnelly?

  Did you?

• 13:09Speaker 04

  Proper boy man. And then when that.

• 13:12Declan Donnelly?

  Even when you were pregnant, did you think? It was a boy, you thought it was another boy.

• 13:15Speaker 04

  At first I thought, I thought, no, this feels different. Like it felt so different. But I was still convinced that I wasn't gonna get a girl. I was just gonna have boys, which I would have been really happy with as well. And then when we did a reveal, just me, Alex and the baby, with the bin. And the pink balloon came out and I swear he had a breakdown.

• 13:32Declan Donnelly?

  Really?

• 13:33Speaker 04

  He was devastated. He just looked at the pink and he went, I don't want it to be hanging out. And we were like, oh, and I didn't know what to like do because he was so disappointed.

• 13:42Declan Donnelly?

  And what about Axel? How did he react?

• 13:44Speaker 04

  Yeah. No, honestly, it was wild. But even like that whole day, I was walking around thinking, whoa, this is weird. That is so strange. But obviously she's the best thing ever. And I'm buzzing now. I've got a girl to do like girly things with and.

• 13:59Declan Donnelly?

  Well, you've got a bit of backup now in the house.

• 14:00Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 14:01Declan Donnelly?

  Otherwise you're just gonna be football on all the time.

• 14:03Speaker 04

  But it is.

• 14:04Declan Donnelly?

  Oh, it is already.

• 14:05Speaker 04

  But he's, Axel's a mini him and she's a mini me.

• 14:07Declan Donnelly?

  Oh.

• 14:08Speaker 04

  Blue eyes, fair haired. It's wild.

• 14:10Declan Donnelly?

  Oh, lovely.

• 14:11Speaker 04

  I know. But she's great. She's no bother. I'm very blessed. She's a good girl.

• 14:16Ant McPartlin?

  Freddie Moore, is that it now?

• 14:17Speaker 04

  I think I might be done.

• 14:18Ant McPartlin?

  Right, okay. Well, you mind me. But you're back to work though?

• 14:22Speaker 04

  I know.

• 14:23Declan Donnelly?

  You didn't hang about?

• 14:24Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah, I've got your truck as well. Have you sat back once?

• 14:26Speaker 04

  No, well, I was for four months. And then I thought, yeah, but I agreed to most of the stuff I agreed to before the year.

• 14:33Declan Donnelly?

  Right.

• 14:33Ant McPartlin?

  Right, okay.

• 14:34Speaker 04

  So I was like, yeah, I'll be fine. I'll be all right. And then when it creeped around, I thought, oh no. But I'm actually all right. It's fine. And I've got my mom, Debs.

• 14:42Declan Donnelly?

  Debs is there, baking away.

• 14:44Speaker 04

  Baking away. She is actually. She makes homemade bread all the time.

• 14:47Declan Donnelly?

  Oh, lovely.

• 14:47Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 14:48Ant McPartlin?

  But you love it, right? Still?

• 14:49Speaker 04

  Oh, she's the best, honestly.

• 14:52Ant McPartlin?

  No, not your mom. Like work, I'm saying. So you like.

• 14:56Speaker 04

  It's good to see her. I'm pretty fond of the woman, I.

• 14:58Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah, she's all right.

• 14:59Speaker 04

  No, she's the best. No, I love, I do love work.

• 15:01Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah.

• 15:02Speaker 04

  Like I do enjoy it. And I feel like it's me. So it's like I get to be myself again instead of just covered in puke and. Do you know what I mean? It's nice to have the balance. I like it.

• 15:12Declan Donnelly?

  The thing is, it's brilliant being a parent and there's nothing better.

• 15:16Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 15:16Declan Donnelly?

  But also to have your career and have something else to get your head into, I think is really, really important.

• 15:20Speaker 04

  I love it. I think it's healthy. I think it's good if you wanna stay at home with the kids and it's good if you wanna get out as well. It's like, I like the balance, honestly. Yeah.

• 15:28Ant McPartlin?

  You got a new single out now?

• 15:29Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 15:30Ant McPartlin?

  It's good?

• 15:31Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 15:31Ant McPartlin?

  It's really good.

• 15:33Speaker 04

  Thanks. It's like the closing of the Perry campaign.

• 15:37Ant McPartlin?

  Right.

• 15:37Declan Donnelly?

  Right.

• 15:38Speaker 04

  So this is the last song from that kind of body of work, that last bit of the campaign and that I did, and then I'm gonna start again.

• 15:45Ant McPartlin?

  So have you started writing stuff now?

• 15:48Speaker 04

  Yeah, I have stuff already that I absolutely love. That is in the direction of where I wanna go, like sonically and that kind of world. So I'm, I'm just excited to be honest.

• 15:56Ant McPartlin?

  How do you choose what to do? Like, do you, do you get ideas for lyrics first, or do you think like musically, this is the direction I wanna go in, or do you just wait for inspiration to strike on any given day?

• 16:07Speaker 04

  I mean, do you know what? It's, it was actually really hard going from a group dynamic to being on my own. Because I feel like when you've been in it for so long, like you two, you'll just be in such a pocket of doing things and it's such a swing and it's a flow. And you know what you wanna do, you know what you don't, you know what works. Little Mix was that. And it was like, we had all the strategies. We knew our sound. And then when you go solo, you kind of look at yourself and you think, so who am I actually without the group? I don't know if yous would feel the same, but I just felt a little bit lost for a while. And I thought, oh my God, like, and the fact that I could do anything overwhelmed me even more.

• 16:43Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah, I'm sure.

• 16:44Speaker 04

  So it was like, do I wanna go more like pop rock? Do I wanna go down this route? Do I wanna do that? And then I kind of experimented with it. But I feel like with already being on a platform from being in a girl group, people have expectations then.

• 16:56Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah.

• 16:57Speaker 04

  So if I was working away albums after album after album, who, sonically different every time. People would probably just get on board eventually with whatever I was doing, hopefully. And they'd be like, oh, this is great. Like Sabrina Carpenter, she's been around for years and she's tried so many different things. And then all of a sudden it stuck. But I think when you're already established in a big group, it's all eyes on you straight away. And if you don't get it right out the gate straight away, it's almost like people are either disappointed or thinking, oh, I was expecting this, I wasn't expecting that. But I'm like, but let me just. Have a minute, you know what I mean?

• 17:27Declan Donnelly?

  There's a really fine balance, isn't there, between giving people what they expect, but still being able to surprise them enough that

• 17:33Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 17:34Declan Donnelly?

  That they didn't, oh, this is not the sound that I thought she was gonna come out with.

• 17:37Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 17:37Declan Donnelly?

  And then be pleasantly surprised. So it's really weighing all off.

• 17:40Speaker 04

  Really weird. And I feel like everyone's watching everything I do already. So I can't even necessarily experiment without people being like, well, is this a sound then? And I'm like, but not necessarily. I'm just trying it.

• 17:51Declan Donnelly?

  Yeah.

• 17:51Speaker 04

  I'm just trying it.

• 17:52Declan Donnelly?

  Yeah.

• 17:52Speaker 04

  So I'm kind of just like going with the flow. And then the Perry album was, it was very me, but it was, there was a lot of different kind of things on there, sonically. So now I think I know the world that I'm in.

• 18:02Declan Donnelly?

  And also, you change as a person.

• 18:04Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah.

• 18:05Declan Donnelly?

  And, you know, that will mean your sound will probably change and you'll become, you'll have different tastes. And now you've got two kids.

• 18:12Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 18:13Declan Donnelly?

  I don't think artists are ever the finished article.

• 18:16Speaker 04

  No, I agree. Yeah.

• 18:17Ant McPartlin?

  And I think it's good if you're not.

• 18:19Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 18:20Ant McPartlin?

  Because if you think that this is just, this is me and this is how I sound and this is how I sing, then you will end up kind of burning out quite quickly, I think. It's good to be inspired and influenced by lots of different things. And travel and kids and families and relationships.

• 18:34Speaker 04

  Relationships, life experiences, the ups, the downs, everything. I think that's why artists love music so much. Cause you can kind of escape in it.

• 18:42Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah.

• 18:42Speaker 04

  But another thing as well is like, why is she writing about this that happened years ago? Why is she writing about this that happened and it's not even our life now? But what do you want me to do? I'm so happy in my relationship and I got two kids, like 24/7. Like, it's not gonna work, is it?

• 18:56Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah.

• 18:56Speaker 04

  Nobody wants to hear me saying how happy I am in my relationship and this, that and the other all the time. It doesn't work like that. Like, I wanna find inspiration from different things in my life that didn't go to plan.

• 19:06Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah.

• 19:06Speaker 04

  Or that went tits up, or just things that are like relatable.

• 19:09Declan Donnelly?

  And people out there will be able to relate to those things because they're going through, even though it's something that's happened to you in the past.

• 19:14Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 19:15Declan Donnelly?

  And I always think we are all products of the slings and arrows that we've had to face during our lives. We're products of the people we've loved and lost and the loves we've had. And we are who we are now because of what's happened to us.

• 19:26Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 19:26Declan Donnelly?

  Doesn't mean you can't write about it because it was 10 years ago.

• 19:29Speaker 04

  But people are like, oh, why are you writing about that now? Why are you hopping on about that now? And I'm like, oh, God, I can't win.

• 19:36Declan Donnelly?

  Throw me a freaking bone here, guys.

• 19:38Speaker 04

  It's just, it's just a lot. But I think like, the other side of it is just so freeing. And it's like, you can do what you want, be who you want.

• 19:45Declan Donnelly?

  Express yourself.

• 19:46Speaker 04

  And it's amazing. And nothing makes me happier than singing. Like, being on stage is just my happy place. Like, I love it. I thrive, you know? Like, I just feel like, oh, there's nothing better than that natural high.

• 19:58Ant McPartlin?

  Have you always felt like, oh, I've got a good voice?

• 20:00Speaker 04

  Yeah, I guess so. I mean, people used to ask me to sing all the time in the playground and things like that.

• 20:05Ant McPartlin?

  So you kind of always knew from a young kid that, yeah, there's something there.

• 20:09Speaker 04

  Yeah. And that's all I've ever wanted to do. Like, I wasn't good at anything else. And like, I remember being a kid in school. And you know, when you go to secondary school and you pick your things that you want to do and like, you do, you pick French, you pick whatever. And I picked dance, music, drama and French. I don't know why. And then I remember being like in the queue waiting to write down what kind of lessons I wanted to take. And some, one of my friend's mom was behind and she was like, oh, you're taking the academic route then, I see. And my mom was like, hang on a minute, or Deb's. And she was like, hang on, she wants to be a singer. And I remember being a kid and everyone being like, no, but what do you really want to do? And I'd be like, I've just told you, I'm gonna be a singer. And they're like, no, no, no, but seriously, what?

• 20:53Speaker 04

  And I thought, wait, is this not normal then? Am I never gonna be a singer? Is this not right? So I'm glad I stuck to my guns and thought, no, because I suck at everything else, I'll be honest. I'm really bad at everything, unless it's the performing arts. I'm really not good.

• 21:06Ant McPartlin?

  Oh, I wouldn't have a clue. We, we've talked about this. I wouldn't have a clue what we'd be doing if we weren't doing this.

• 21:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's wild, isn't it?

• 21:11Declan Donnelly?

  People always say, don't they, what would you do if you weren't working in food business? Oh, I don't know.

• 21:15Speaker 04

  I don't know.

• 21:15Ant McPartlin?

  I would be very good at selling mobile phones.

• 21:19Speaker 04

  Right, okay.

• 21:20Ant McPartlin?

  Not cars, that would be a stretch, but mobile phones.

• 21:23Speaker 04

  Oh, that's so funny. But if it's something you're passionate about.

• 21:26Declan Donnelly?

  I'm not passionate about mobile phones.

• 21:31Declan Donnelly?

  I mean, I've got the new iPhone, but that's about as passionate as I get.

• 21:34Speaker 04

  No, I remember you do now.

• 21:36Ant McPartlin?

  You know your stuff when it comes to phones. Don't give me that.

• 21:38Declan Donnelly?

  I can get you a good case, not give me.

• 21:40Speaker 04

  Oh, wow. That's snazzy, isn't it? That is good.

• 21:43Declan Donnelly?

  I'll get you one if you want.

• 21:44Speaker 04

  Thanks. Maybe three, so.

• 21:47Declan Donnelly?

  What, what kind of age were you when you thought, right, I'm really gonna go for this? Cause was X Factor on telly already? Was there?

• 21:54Speaker 04

  Yeah. Oh, yeah. I was a huge fan. Yeah. My mom was actually, she was gonna take me to the Australian one. Cause she thought it would be less competitive. She was like, I know Australia's smaller. Why don't we like do something there? And I was thinking, oh gosh, gonna drag.

• 22:10Declan Donnelly?

  Let's move.

• 22:11Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 22:12Ant McPartlin?

  Again.

• 22:12Speaker 04

  Move again.

• 22:13Ant McPartlin?

  But not big.

• 22:14Speaker 04

  Yeah, no, and I thought, no, please, no. It did. It did make sense.

• 22:17Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah.

• 22:18Speaker 04

  And obviously everyone like, I was thinking, oh God, people are gonna see me from school and I'm gonna be on the telly. And if I don't make it, everyone will laugh. And like, I was very conscious of that. So I was kind of just embarrassed. But I'm glad that my mom kind of pushed me into it and Newcastle auditions were cancelled last minute. I think they lowered the age as well. Cause I was only fifteen or sixteen for the first ever audition.

• 22:40Declan Donnelly?

  Right.

• 22:40Speaker 04

  And then my mom woke up one morning, she was like, Newcastle's cancelled, we're going to Glasgow. And I was like, what do you mean? And it was like three in the morning. She dragged me out, took me to Glasgow and then I did the audition there. And then luckily it obviously worked out for me and I'm glad, but I was terrified.

• 22:57Ant McPartlin?

  I bet.

• 22:57Speaker 04

  I was so scared. And that was the first time I've experienced nerves. And like normally when I'm singing, I'll just sing, but sitting in a little tent with somebody staring at us. My voice was like Larry the Lamb. And I'm saying, and I thought, oh my God, what's happening? This is weird.

• 23:12Ant McPartlin?

  And that had never happened before.

• 23:14Speaker 04

  Never happened to me before.

• 23:15Ant McPartlin?

  You'd never question your own ability in that way.

• 23:16Speaker 04

  No.

• 23:17Ant McPartlin?

  Or worried that it might fall.

• 23:19Speaker 04

  It was wild. But every time I sung in front of people, it was awful. So I don't know how I got as far as I did. I really don't. It's wild.

• 23:26Declan Donnelly?

  What do you remember about that, that time? Do you, do you remember it fondly? Or is it all a bit of a blur now? Cause what has it been like fifteen years?

• 23:33Speaker 04

  It was kind of a blur, but it was also one of the best times of my life.

• 23:35Declan Donnelly?

  I bet.

• 23:36Speaker 04

  Like meeting the girls and becoming like four best friends and sisters and. Everything. It was just such a fun experience.

• 23:42Declan Donnelly?

  So remind me then, because you you were in a pair, weren't you?

• 23:47Speaker 04

  So I was, we were all solo.

• 23:49Declan Donnelly?

  You're all solo, then you got put into a pair?

• 23:51Speaker 04

  Then we got put into different groups. I mean, Jessie were in a group and Jane and Liam were in a group. And then we got nosed again. And then they brought the four of us on together and they were like, do you think you could work together?

• 24:01Ant McPartlin?

  God, that's amazing, isn't it?

• 24:02Speaker 04

  Because it was wild.

• 24:03Declan Donnelly?

  And then you went on to win it?

• 24:04Speaker 04

  Yeah. It's not weird though.

• 24:06Declan Donnelly?

  It's mad.

• 24:07Speaker 04

  But they based it purely just on our height.

• 24:09Ant McPartlin?

  Did they?

• 24:10Speaker 04

  Because we were so small. We were all exactly the same height, five foot four.

• 24:13Ant McPartlin?

  You'd look good together.

• 24:14Speaker 04

  Yeah. And that was one of the things.

• 24:15Ant McPartlin?

  That is crazy. I saw a really funny thing on social media the other day where they said, can you believe the X Factor used to have an over twenty five category?

• 24:24Speaker 04

  We just spoke about that about today.

• 24:27Ant McPartlin?

  As a viewer, you would watch and go, oh, go on, you old fortune.

• 24:31Speaker 04

  Oh, my gosh.

• 24:33Ant McPartlin?

  Keep chasing that dream.

• 24:34Speaker 04

  No, we just had this conversation and I remember being a kid thinking, why don't they just get rid of that category? Nobody cares about these old people. And now I'm thirty two, I think, wow. But do you think people back then were a lot older, at that age than we are now?

• 24:49Ant McPartlin?

  The over twenty fives looked like.

• 24:50Speaker 04

  They seemed older to me.

• 24:51Declan Donnelly?

  Like your mum and dad.

• 24:52Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah, they did, yeah.

• 24:54Speaker 04

  Whereas now I feel like a thirty year old's not that old.

• 24:56Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah, I agree.

• 24:57Speaker 04

  I don't know, but oh my God, I was so savage. I was like, get these old fiddies off. Nobody cares. Give it up already.

• 25:04Ant McPartlin?

  Come on, the young ones.

• 25:05Speaker 04

  Give it up, you're not going to win.

• 25:06Ant McPartlin?

  Real talent.

• 25:07Speaker 04

  Oh, God.

• 25:08Ant McPartlin?

  And your final was at Wembley Arena, was it?

• 25:11Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 25:12Ant McPartlin?

  I remember watching that.

• 25:12Speaker 04

  So good.

• 25:13Ant McPartlin?

  And it would just looked insanely huge on TV.

• 25:16Declan Donnelly?

  Well, I remember watching it because we were cheering for you guys because because of you and Jade.

• 25:22Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 25:22Declan Donnelly?

  So we were like, come on, the Jodie's, the Jodie's are going to win X Factor.

• 25:25Speaker 04

  We definitely had a massive following back home.

• 25:27Declan Donnelly?

  Yeah.

• 25:28Speaker 04

  Like, that's probably where the majority of the votes came from.

• 25:30Ant McPartlin?

  And you got no idea. I mean, we know, like, you know, hosting Britain's Got Talent, that they act, I have no idea when it comes to the final of.

• 25:36Speaker 04

  No.

• 25:36Ant McPartlin?

  You might think that I'm doing well and we've got lots of support or whatever, but you've still got no way of knowing.

• 25:41Speaker 04

  You've got no idea, but we kind of convinced.

• 25:43Ant McPartlin?

  Did you try and look for a little tick in Dermot's eye, like, is he going to give something away?

• 25:45Speaker 04

  We just convinced ourselves that it'd probably be good if we don't win. Because for some reason, One Direction, like, like, everybody who didn't win ended up doing really good anyways. So we were like, it doesn't matter. Like, we've got this far.

• 26:00Ant McPartlin?

  It's almost better if we don't win.

• 26:01Speaker 04

  It's almost better if we don't, right? And then when they were like, let me, we were like, we'll take it. Anyway, we are winners, champions. But we were buzzing. But we had no idea. And obviously, girl groups never get far on the X Factor, do they?

• 26:13Ant McPartlin?

  No.

• 26:14Speaker 04

  They're always booted out straight away. We used to get papped, like, going into the studios and they'd be like, oh, enjoy it while it lasts, girls. You'll be out Sunday or whatever. And we'd be like, oh.

• 26:23Ant McPartlin?

  Lovely. Thank you.

• 26:24Speaker 04

  Really nice. Yeah, they were so mean to us. Oh, my God, that's horrendous. I know. We proved them wrong though, didn't we?

• 26:29Ant McPartlin?

  Yes, you did. Good for you. And then when you won it, your life must have just been turned upside down.

• 26:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, it was mad. My mom always says, God, I've talked about my mom a lot. She, she always says, like, she's glad she took me, but she almost regretted it. Because I was only sixteen, seventeen, that was it. I was gone. Moved to London. Me and Jade moved to Notting Hill. We didn't know anywhere in London. So we were like, Notting Hill?

• 26:51Ant McPartlin?

  Seen the film?

• 26:52Speaker 04

  We've seen the film. We'll move there. Didn't know how expensive it was. Jeez. And then, yeah, so it was hard because we were just away from our families and friends for the foreseeable future then. And that was it.

• 27:03Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah, of course. Yeah. We were the same. And we moved to London. We had to wait till I was eighteen, so we could sign the record contract, didn't we? Yeah. And then we moved out of London here. It was either that or my mom would have to go everywhere if I'd signed it when I was seventeen. And we thought that was probably best not.

• 27:19Speaker 04

  Cramping your style a bit.

• 27:20Ant McPartlin?

  I was up for it, but.

• 27:21Speaker 04

  Fair enough.

• 27:23Ant McPartlin?

  I like Christine. She's good crap.

• 27:28Ant McPartlin?

  She was dying out on you saying that. That'll be a text alert tone. Yeah. So then we moved and we never really had that moment where we're like, you know what, like, you move out and kids go to university or you move out, the people move out the house. You have a cargo box full of your stuff.

• 27:43Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 27:43Ant McPartlin?

  We never had that moment of moving out because we just, we went away for a couple of weeks to do this road show. And then we came back. And then we went away for a few more weeks to do a promo tour. Then we, then we came back to Newcastle. Then we just never kind of went back. And I'm still look back on that with. Madness that we didn't have that moment of.

• 28:00Speaker 04

  I know what you mean of like, oh farewell, this is it. I'm doing it. I'm going. You kind of just whisked off.

• 28:05Declan Donnelly?

  Yeah, it must have been the same for you. You just won the X Factor, then you went off and did some promo and you'd go home for a bit, but then go for a bit longer.

• 28:12Speaker 04

  Yeah. No, it's wild when you think about it, isn't it? I think at the time you're just so caught up in everything. Like, everything just feels like it's just fast paced and it's going and it's new and it's fresh and it's exciting. But when I look back on it now, I'm thinking, how did we do that?

• 28:25Declan Donnelly?

  Yeah.

• 28:25Speaker 04

  Like, if somebody initially had said, do you want this life? This is what it takes. Will you do it? It probably would seem overwhelming, wouldn't it? And you probably would be a bit scared going into it.

• 28:35Declan Donnelly?

  Yeah.

• 28:36Speaker 04

  When you don't know what's coming and you just kind of go in there blindfolded a bit, you're like, oh, this is fun.

• 28:40Declan Donnelly?

  Yeah.

• 28:41Speaker 04

  You know, you just go over the floor. Yeah.

• 28:43Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah, and there's times where you think, well, we've made it or no, we haven't. Oh, it's gonna finish. Oh, it's coming back. It's never a straight line. It's never like that. It's always, that's just life though, isn't it? You know, it's like that, I presume, in every career.

• 28:56Declan Donnelly?

  And I think when we left as well, we'd known each other for five years or something. We'd done Biker Grove and then it all started to snowball. But for you, I suppose, you, you won the X Factor, you got whisked off, you were doing promo, you were recording studios and stuff. And you didn't really know the girls that well. You were still getting to know each other.

• 29:16Speaker 04

  Yeah. Yeah, when you think about it, yeah.

• 29:18Declan Donnelly?

  You were quite new to each other, you know, you'd been put together through the show.

• 29:23Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 29:23Declan Donnelly?

  Was that tough?

• 29:24Speaker 04

  Not at all.

• 29:25Declan Donnelly?

  Wasn't?

• 29:25Speaker 04

  No, I think that's why we got lucky, because we just, it just worked. Like, we just loved each other so much. And I remember thinking, oh my God, this is so cool. Like, and I thrive in a group dynamic. Like, I think we all did. Um, being on our own seemed a bit more like don't. And but when you've got each other going through everything and all the dramas that the industry brings and all the ups and downs, like having each other was probably what we needed at that age as well.

• 29:50Declan Donnelly?

  Yeah.

• 29:50Speaker 04

  Because we were so young and yeah, we were just like loving every part of it together.

• 29:55Ant McPartlin?

  We say that though, that is very much the same as us. You know, if it wasn't for each other, it would have been very hard to kind of navigate.

• 30:04Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, absolutely.

• 30:05Declan Donnelly?

  And the one thing you will all have also is that, you know, you are the. Only four people to have ever experienced.

• 30:10Speaker 04

  That's what we always say. Well, like, nobody will understand us the way we understand each other. Like, nobody. And we can, like, whinge and moan or, like, go through motions with other people that are in our, in our circle. And obviously, they get it, but not to that extent. It's not the same at all. So I'm glad we've got that still.

• 30:29Declan Donnelly?

  Yeah.

• 30:29Speaker 04

  You know?

• 30:30Declan Donnelly?

  Oh, you'll have that forever.

• 30:31Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 30:32Declan Donnelly?

  The relationship with the four of you, the things you've experienced together is unique. And Leanne, I've seen, has just signed up for Celebrity Traitors.

• 30:39Speaker 04

  I know. Wild. I've never seen it.

• 30:41Ant McPartlin?

  I've never.

• 30:42Speaker 04

  Never.

• 30:42Ant McPartlin?

  I haven't seen, I'd only seen the last Celebrity Traitors. That was it. I don't watch the.

• 30:47Speaker 04

  Did you like it?

• 30:49Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah, I like the Celebrity one. I tried to watch the civilian one, but I wasn't, wasn't at five.

• 30:54Speaker 04

  I just, I can't get into it, but now I'm gonna have to. Cause Leanne's on it, so I need to watch it now.

• 30:58Declan Donnelly?

  Is she a good liar?

• 30:59Speaker 04

  Oh, no. Is that what you have to do?

• 31:01Declan Donnelly?

  Yes.

• 31:02Speaker 04

  Oh, she's so annoying. I already know it's gonna annoy me.

• 31:06Declan Donnelly?

  Really?

• 31:06Ant McPartlin?

  Is that what you have to do? Like, yeah, just, if she's a traitor, then she has to lie.

• 31:10Speaker 04

  No, she's annoying like that. She used to do that all the time. That's her thing.

• 31:13Ant McPartlin?

  What, lying?

• 31:14Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 31:17Speaker 04

  No, like, you don't understand how infuriating it is. She'll lie about, like, silly things. So, like, she'll do pranks. And we're like, Leanne, that's, and she goes, it's a prank. I'm like, it's not a prank, you're just lying. Like, it's just annoying. Do you know what I mean? It's one of them. So I don't know if I've got it in me to watch her do that then for a full series.

• 31:32Declan Donnelly?

  Well, it depends. If she's a traitor, she has to lie. If she's a faithful, she has to try and catch the traitors.

• 31:37Ant McPartlin?

  Is she good at spotting liars, then?

• 31:39Speaker 04

  Oh, she'll be useless at that. Oh, what's she gonna do on this show?

• 31:41Ant McPartlin?

  All right, twenty pence on her to win.

• 31:43Speaker 04

  Yeah, no, I think she'll be good. I'm gonna have to watch it now, right? I get it now. Okay, I get it. I'm gonna watch it then.

• 31:51Ant McPartlin?

  Have you settled into a solo performer?

• 31:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, I think so, yeah.

• 31:56Ant McPartlin?

  How was your circle when you travel?

• 31:58Speaker 04

  Oh, great. I love my circle. I'm very lucky. I've got a very good circle around me. And I still have the girls. Like, we still have each other whenever we're going through things. Or like, is this normal? Should I be doing this? Should I be doing that? And then we kind of like lean on each other that way still. So it's nice. But I'm very lucky. The people around me are incredible.

• 32:16Declan Donnelly?

  That's good.

• 32:16Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 32:17Declan Donnelly?

  You need good people around you.

• 32:18Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, you do.

• 32:19Declan Donnelly?

  Yeah. We're recording this before Mighty Hoopla.

• 32:21Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 32:22Declan Donnelly?

  When this goes out, you will have done Mighty Hoopla.

• 32:24Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 32:24Declan Donnelly?

  Are you excited about it? And how did it go?

• 32:27Speaker 04

  Oh. It was epic.

• 32:31Speaker 04

  The vibes were great.

• 32:34Speaker 04

  It was fun.

• 32:34Declan Donnelly?

  It's a good one, isn't it, Matty?

• 32:35Speaker 04

  It is, yeah. Yeah, I love it. I just love being on stage. I can't explain it. I'm obsessed with it.

• 32:40Declan Donnelly?

  Yeah.

• 32:40Speaker 04

  Before I go out, I feel like I'm going to puke.

• 32:42Declan Donnelly?

  Do you?

• 32:43Speaker 04

  But then once I'm on there and I'm like singing and just, oh, I just love it.

• 32:46Declan Donnelly?

  There's a lot of love from that crowd as well, isn't there?

• 32:48Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 32:49Ant McPartlin?

  Is there anything else that you want to do that you haven't yet done?

• 32:52Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'd love to be in like a movie musical vibe.

• 32:56Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah.

• 32:57Speaker 04

  Like, you know, like The Greatest Showman.

• 32:58Ant McPartlin?

  Yes.

• 32:58Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah. That is a piece of me, that.

• 33:00Ant McPartlin?

  Okay.

• 33:00Speaker 04

  That is a bit of me.

• 33:01Declan Donnelly?

  I can see you doing that.

• 33:02Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah, I can see you doing that.

• 33:03Speaker 04

  Like, I just love musicals and movies and even West End, things like that. I just love it. So I think that would be fun.

• 33:11Ant McPartlin?

  I'm performing live every night.

• 33:12Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 33:13Ant McPartlin?

  On Broadway.

• 33:13Speaker 04

  That would be epic.

• 33:14Ant McPartlin?

  By your street.

• 33:15Declan Donnelly?

  How about the old man? How's he getting on? Um, he's just won the league with Celtic.

• 33:20Speaker 04

  I know.

• 33:20Declan Donnelly?

  What a day that was!

• 33:22Ant McPartlin?

  And possibly the cup.

• 33:23Speaker 04

  The atmosphere was epic.

• 33:24Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah, I bet.

• 33:25Speaker 04

  Honestly, unbelievable. I've never seen anything like it in my life.

• 33:28Ant McPartlin?

  Oh, everybody, even if you're not a Scottish football fan, everybody was watching on that day because they wanted to see what happened.

• 33:34Speaker 04

  It's the way they all run on to the pitch. I've never seen anything like that. Like, the chaos is insane, but I love it. I love, I love it. I'm glad we were there.

• 33:43Declan Donnelly?

  What an atmosphere.

• 33:45Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah, I bet.

• 33:45Speaker 04

  It was so good. And we went partying after and

• 33:48Declan Donnelly?

  Yeah, I bet.

• 33:48Speaker 04

  realised how old we were and how tired we are. But I'm so proud of him. He's won everything possible to win in football.

• 33:54Declan Donnelly?

  Amazing.

• 33:55Ant McPartlin?

  Go on, what's he won?

• 33:56Speaker 04

  He's won, like, everything.

• 33:57Ant McPartlin?

  He's there?

• 33:58Speaker 04

  Any cup, any, anything. He's won all of them in British football. And now he's in Scotland and he's just won that one.

• 34:03Ant McPartlin?

  That's a tattoo and a half, isn't it?

• 34:04Speaker 04

  Isn't it, though?

• 34:06Ant McPartlin?

  Not just the cups or the outlines of the cups, just I've won everything.

• 34:09Speaker 04

  I've won everything there is to win, ever.

• 34:11Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah.

• 34:11Declan Donnelly?

  I've won one and all, mate.

• 34:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'm so proud.

• 34:14Ant McPartlin?

  Complete it, mate.

• 34:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, complete it, mate.

• 34:16Declan Donnelly?

  Fantastic, that.

• 34:17Speaker 04

  So done. I'm like, so buzzing for him.

• 34:18Ant McPartlin?

  That's brilliant.

• 34:19Speaker 04

  I know, and I love Glasgow.

• 34:20Declan Donnelly?

  It's a great city, isn't it?

• 34:21Speaker 04

  I know, I'd love to stay there a bit longer. It's the best. I think it's because I just love the Northerners personally. So chatty, so friendly, so approachable. Love it.

• 34:29Declan Donnelly?

  Do you always find as well, um, audiences, the further north you go?

• 34:33Speaker 04

  The more rowdy.

• 34:34Declan Donnelly?

  Yeah.

• 34:34Speaker 04

  Yeah, I like that.

• 34:35Declan Donnelly?

  Yeah, me too.

• 34:36Ant McPartlin?

  I know Glasgow used to get quite a bad reputation for being too rowdy.

• 34:40Speaker 04

  No, never too rowdy.

• 34:41Ant McPartlin?

  But we always liked it.

• 34:42Speaker 04

  I love it.

• 34:42Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah, the rowdier the better.

• 34:44Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 34:46Ant McPartlin?

  Before you go.

• 34:47Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 34:48Ant McPartlin?

  We spend a lot of time on this podcast talking about misheard lyrics. We've done a little bit of time on this last week, I think it was, two weeks ago.

• 34:57Declan Donnelly?

  Couple of weeks ago.

• 34:58Ant McPartlin?

  And it's far more common than you think.

• 35:00Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 35:00Ant McPartlin?

  I'm sure you must have. Have you ever had that with any of your stuff, Little Mix stuff?

• 35:04Speaker 04

  Oh, all the time. Shout out to my eggs.

• 35:07Ant McPartlin?

  No way.

• 35:09Speaker 04

  Such a popular one.

• 35:11Declan Donnelly?

  Yes.

• 35:11Speaker 04

  Shout out to my eggs. I mean, I get it because it kind of sounds like that.

• 35:15Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah.

• 35:16Speaker 04

  But yeah, I do it a lot with lyrics as well myself.

• 35:18Ant McPartlin?

  Oh, I do. I'm terrible at it.

• 35:19Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'm so bad.

• 35:20Ant McPartlin?

  We have had some suggestions sent in, which you don't know about, you don't know about. So I'm happily, I'm gonna read you the line.

• 35:26Declan Donnelly?

  Right.

• 35:26Ant McPartlin?

  And you've got to tell me what you think the actual lyric is and what the song is.

• 35:31Declan Donnelly?

  I often think that songwriters get offended by this when you go, you know, you've pored over your lyrics and every word that you've written.

• 35:37Speaker 04

  I mean, I guess it's your own fault for not enunciating.

• 35:40Ant McPartlin?

  Very good point.

• 35:41Speaker 04

  Do you know what I mean?

• 35:41Ant McPartlin?

  Yes.

• 35:42Speaker 04

  You're gonna go self to blame.

• 35:43Declan Donnelly?

  In the booth.

• 35:45Ant McPartlin?

  Okay, so this one, for you, I peed myself dry.

• 35:51Declan Donnelly?

  Oh, this is, uh, Coldplay.

• 35:54Ant McPartlin?

  Yes.

• 35:54Speaker 04

  Oh, yes.

• 35:58Ant McPartlin?

  Yellow by Coldplay. Yeah, this is from, um, so this is from Kitty, who writes, uh, in my family, I'm known for mishearing or misnaming lyrics. That's what she thought the lyrics to Yellow were.

• 36:09Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 36:09Declan Donnelly?

  That shit peed everything out.

• 36:11Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah, well, she said, I remember when I was six, asking me dad why someone would write a song about that. He explained how it's about love and wanting to give everything to another person, to which I replied, even you wee.

• 36:22Speaker 04

  Oh, my God.

• 36:23Ant McPartlin?

  I'm 22 now, and ironically, that misheard pee is still used by me and my family.

• 36:28Speaker 04

  I'm gonna sing that from now on now.

• 36:29Declan Donnelly?

  I'm gonna.

• 36:30Speaker 04

  That's gonna be my thing.

• 36:33Ant McPartlin?

  Another one here. Hello, it's Bethan Parfit again.

• 36:36Declan Donnelly?

  Bethan?

• 36:36Ant McPartlin?

  From the Bethans of the World Unite Movement. There's not a movement. So shut up. There's not a movement. I've got some good misheard lyrics.

• 36:43Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 36:44Ant McPartlin?

  Uh, please try and guess. I used to sing all. Your socks are on fire.

• 36:50Declan Donnelly?

  Oh.

• 36:51Speaker 04

  Your socks is on fire.

• 36:54Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah, that's it. No disrespect, but I'd much rather hear her sing it.

• 36:59Speaker 04

  Sorry, Zach.

• 36:59Ant McPartlin?

  She has got a much better voice than you.

• 37:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's a good one, actually.

• 37:03Ant McPartlin?

  Kings of Leon.

• 37:03Declan Donnelly?

  Kings of Leon, yeah. Your socks are on fire.

• 37:06Ant McPartlin?

  Your socks are on fire.

• 37:06Declan Donnelly?

  That's good.

• 37:07Speaker 04

  The name is someone.

• 37:08Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah.

• 37:08Speaker 04

  The name is someone.

• 37:08Ant McPartlin?

  I was only 11, Beth and I said.

• 37:10Speaker 04

  Okay, there you go.

• 37:11Ant McPartlin?

  And my mum never corrected me because she didn't want to tell me what sex was.

• 37:14Declan Donnelly?

  Yeah.

• 37:15Ant McPartlin?

  Understandably so.

• 37:16Speaker 04

  Fair enough, fair enough.

• 37:17Declan Donnelly?

  Can I tell you a story about that song? I was at a friend's birthday party and there was some other famous people there. And it was a karaoke and my then six year old girl, Isla, got one of the microphones and the next person to come up to sing was Peter Crouch. And he sang that, sang that alongside my then six year old girl. Sit next to her, sit next to her and he's singing, ah, your sex is on fire. And I go, this is really weird.

• 37:47Speaker 04

  Oh, no, that's hilarious.

• 37:49Ant McPartlin?

  And was she singing socks because she didn't understand?

• 37:51Declan Donnelly?

  She was just going, ah. And I was going, Isla, come here, come here. She was like, no, I'm not getting down.

• 37:57Speaker 04

  Oh, that's so funny.

• 37:59Declan Donnelly?

  Peter Crouch was very weirded out singing alongside Isla.

• 38:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, not surprised. That is jokes.

• 38:03Ant McPartlin?

  I remember being told of the Kings of Leon. I was, I went back to, they were in the days where we used to do SMT Live, Saturday mornings. Back to Cat Dealey's house on a Saturday after the show. You weren't there, you'd gone back to Newcastle for the weekend. And I was like, I don't know if I'm going to stay much longer. Everyone was kind of getting tired and people were kind of leaving and all that. And then the doorbell went and she went, would you get that? I answered the door and there's the four scruffiest looking blokes you've ever seen. I was like, if this is the caliber of people coming in now, I'm leaving. So I left, got in the taxi and she was like, you didn't stay when the Kings of Leon came? I went, was that the Kings of Leon?

• 38:36Speaker 04

  Oh, my gosh.

• 38:40Ant McPartlin?

  I know, what a shame.

• 38:40Speaker 04

  That is hilarious.

• 38:42Declan Donnelly?

  That's like an episode of Chums. Ding dong, it's the Kings of Leon.

• 38:47Ant McPartlin?

  It's my own fault for being too judgy when they turn up at the door.

• 38:50Speaker 04

  Yeah, that'll teach you.

• 38:51Ant McPartlin?

  It is really. Hi guys.

• 38:54Declan Donnelly?

  Hi.

• 38:54Ant McPartlin?

  At seven years old and aspiring to be a pop star, which sadly didn't work out, I thought I would rehearse a song and proudly perform it to my family.

• 39:02Speaker 04

  Oh no. It's all I remember. It's just good already.

• 39:05Ant McPartlin?

  The lyrics that she sang

• 39:07Speaker 04

  Right.

• 39:07Ant McPartlin?

  were, "I saw an angel called Adam Shaw."

• 39:11Speaker 04

  I saw an angel called Adam Shaw.

• 39:15Declan Donnelly?

  That's, um, Blundy.

• 39:17Ant McPartlin?

  Jim Blunt, "You're beautiful."

• 39:19Declan Donnelly?

  "You're beautiful, yes."

• 39:20Ant McPartlin?

  "I saw an angel called Adam Shaw." That was a good one.

• 39:24Speaker 04

  He smiled at me on the subway, but he was with another man. Oh, it makes sense.

• 39:28Ant McPartlin?

  It does make sense.

• 39:29Declan Donnelly?

  Adam Shaw was with another man.

• 39:31Ant McPartlin?

  Adam Shaw was with, no, no wonder you'd be annoyed. That was from Chloe Bentham from Southport.

• 39:36Speaker 04

  Oh, that's really cute.

• 39:38Ant McPartlin?

  Do you want another one?

• 39:39Speaker 04

  Yeah, go on then. I like this.

• 39:40Ant McPartlin?

  This is from Louisa Bird in Mount Sorland, Leicestershire. "Alan Partridge in a Bad Dream."

• 39:46Speaker 04

  Alan Partridge in a Bad Dream.

• 39:49Declan Donnelly?

  What, the 12 Days of Christmas?

• 39:50Ant McPartlin?

  Yes.

• 39:51Declan Donnelly?

  No.

• 39:52Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah, when, yeah.

• 39:54Speaker 04

  That's too funny. I feel like I'm quite good at this kid.

• 39:57Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah, you're very good at this kid. Your parents have to be big Alan Partridge fans for you to miss the lyrics to the 12 Days of Christmas, right?

• 40:05Declan Donnelly?

  Yes.

• 40:05Speaker 04

  That's really funny.

• 40:06Declan Donnelly?

  Alan Partridge in a Bad Dream.

• 40:08Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah. Oh, this, this one. You'll never get this one.

• 40:10Speaker 04

  Oh, go on then.

• 40:11Ant McPartlin?

  Okay. So this is from Lindsay in Teeside, Middlesbrough fan. Don't hold it against her.

• 40:16Declan Donnelly?

  Oh, come on.

• 40:18Ant McPartlin?

  Her nana used to sing this.

• 40:19Declan Donnelly?

  Uh huh.

• 40:20Ant McPartlin?

  The lyrics are, "You're the wobbly dog. You are the wobbly dog."

• 40:27Speaker 04

  Okay, you've thrown me with that one.

• 40:28Declan Donnelly?

  Is it "You're the wobbly dog" or "You are the wobbly dog"?

• 40:30Speaker 04

  "You are the wobbly dog."

• 40:32Declan Donnelly?

  You're the wobbly dog.

• 40:33Ant McPartlin?

  So I know it's slightly different.

• 40:35Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 40:35Ant McPartlin?

  "You're the wobbly dog. You are the wobbly dog."

• 40:38Declan Donnelly?

  I know what this is. Is it?

• 40:40Ant McPartlin?

  Ooh, ooh.

• 40:41Declan Donnelly?

  Honey, the wobbly dog, you are the wobbly dog. Ooh, ooh, ooh, honey.

• 40:46Speaker 04

  The wobbly dog, that, he's a song.

• 40:48Ant McPartlin?

  "You're the one I want." From Grease.

• 40:50Declan Donnelly?

  It's the title of the song?

• 40:52Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah. "You're the wobbly dog. You are the wobbly dog. Ooh, ooh, ooh, honey."

• 40:58Speaker 04

  Oh, that's really cute.

• 40:59Declan Donnelly?

  But it's literally the name of the song. Stick on the one that I want. You're the one that I want.

• 41:04Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah.

• 41:05Declan Donnelly?

  It's the call the one that I want.

• 41:06Ant McPartlin?

  Oh, it's the song from Grease. I would, I would know that.

• 41:08Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's true, actually.

• 41:09Ant McPartlin?

  It's the song from Grease. I've got one last one.

• 41:11Speaker 04

  Go on then, I love it.

• 41:12Ant McPartlin?

  This is from Helen in Basildon. My favourite misheard lyric at the moment. I popped out my tit.

• 41:23Declan Donnelly?

  I'm never gonna get that. I popped out my tit.

• 41:26Speaker 04

  Were you just...

• 41:27Ant McPartlin?

  Perry.

• 41:28Speaker 04

  I popped out my tit.

• 41:32Speaker 04

  I popped out my tit.

• 41:33Ant McPartlin?

  I'm trying not to give it away, yeah.

• 41:34Speaker 04

  I popped out my tit. I popped, I popped out my tit and I, I popped out my tit.

• 41:39Declan Donnelly?

  I popped out my tit.

• 41:39Speaker 04

  I don't know what that is. I popped out my tit. I popped out my tit. I popped out my tit.

• 41:48Speaker 04

  That is the best one. That's the best one.

• 41:51Ant McPartlin?

  You win. She wins. Helen in Basildon, you win.

• 41:53Speaker 04

  That's the best one.

• 41:54Ant McPartlin?

  Thank you for popping out your tit.

• 41:55Declan Donnelly?

  Well done, Helen. Now, now, put it away.

• 41:59Speaker 04

  Oh no, I'm never gonna sing these songs the normal way ever again. Ever. That's so good.

• 42:06Declan Donnelly?

  My favourite, yeah, my favourite is popped out my tit. And then wobbly dog.

• 42:09Speaker 04

  Wobbly dog.

• 42:12Declan Donnelly?

  Thank you for coming in. It's such a treat.

• 42:15Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 42:15Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah, you'd like it.

• 42:16Declan Donnelly?

  That's very good. Yeah. More, I'm all for more Jordies on the show.

• 42:19Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 42:20Declan Donnelly?

  All for more Jordies. Before you go, would you like to take a biscuit?

• 42:23Speaker 04

  I've been ironing them up like the whole time.

• 42:25Ant McPartlin?

  Well, okay.

• 42:26Speaker 04

  I love biscuits.

• 42:27Ant McPartlin?

  Take one. What would be your number one?

• 42:30Speaker 04

  Is that a chocolate hobnob?

• 42:32Ant McPartlin?

  Yes, it is a chocolate hobnob.

• 42:33Declan Donnelly?

  Or a chocolate digestive.

• 42:35Ant McPartlin?

  No, no, she said chocolate hobnob.

• 42:36Speaker 04

  No, not a digestive.

• 42:37Ant McPartlin?

  That was one of mine.

• 42:38Speaker 04

  The digestive doesn't do it for me.

• 42:40Ant McPartlin?

  Hobnob.

• 42:40Speaker 04

  The hobnob a hundred percent.

• 42:41Ant McPartlin?

  Hobnob.

• 42:42Speaker 04

  And the cookies.

• 42:42Ant McPartlin?

  It's yours.

• 42:43Speaker 04

  Dunkable biscuits they are.

• 42:44Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah, they are.

• 42:45Speaker 04

  Dunk and biscuit.

• 42:46Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah, they are.

• 42:47Speaker 04

  The tea is just a vessel for the biscuit.

• 42:50Ant McPartlin?

  I agree. It is. Yeah, it is.

• 42:52Speaker 04

  See?

• 42:53Ant McPartlin?

  And you've got to dunk.

• 42:54Speaker 04

  Love it. Thanks.

• 42:55Ant McPartlin?

  I mean, you don't have to. I mean, nobody's fingered them, but it's just fine.

• 42:58Speaker 04

  No, I'd love a hobnob actually. Thank you so much.

• 43:00Declan Donnelly?

  You're very welcome. Thank you for coming.

• 43:02Ant McPartlin?

  Do take with our compliments a chocolate hobnob.

• 43:05Declan Donnelly?

  Big round of applause for Perry.

• 43:10Declan Donnelly?

  Well done, Anne.

• 43:11Ant McPartlin?

  Thank you.

• 43:12Declan Donnelly?

  Perry was the perfect guest.

• 43:14Ant McPartlin?

  Lovely, isn't she?

• 43:15Declan Donnelly?

  Really lovely.

• 43:15Ant McPartlin?

  And we've met her a few times over the years, but she is just a very humble, lovely girl who is very talented. Great voice. The single's really good, you know?

• 43:26Declan Donnelly?

  Single's great. Passenger Princess, Out Now.

• 43:28Ant McPartlin?

  Out Now.

• 43:28Declan Donnelly?

  It's really good.

• 43:29Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah, it's really good.

• 43:30Declan Donnelly?

  Big jangly guitars.

• 43:31Ant McPartlin?

  I like it.

• 43:32Declan Donnelly?

  Big bassline. I love it. It's really good. We took a little picture before she left.

• 43:36Ant McPartlin?

  Yeah, we did take a picture.

• 43:37Declan Donnelly?

  I took a little selfie.

• 43:38Ant McPartlin?

  It's not nice. You're the only one in focus.

• 43:41Declan Donnelly?

  I took a little selfie of us.

• 43:42Ant McPartlin?

  Dad took the selfie. He's the only one in focus. It gets worse as it goes on. And at least you can kind of tell it's her. You don't even know it's me.

• 43:52Declan Donnelly?

  It was all blurry to me. I didn't have my glasses on.

• 43:55Ant McPartlin?

  We can unblur it and post it on our socials.

• 43:58Declan Donnelly?

  No, I think we should leave it as it is.

• 43:59Ant McPartlin?

  No, we shouldn't. You can't get a guest like Perrie Edwards and do her dirty like that. We won't get any more guests, Jordies or not. Very good guest, very talented.

• 44:10Declan Donnelly?

  She's great.

• 44:11Ant McPartlin?

  She can come back whenever she wants.

• 44:12Declan Donnelly?

  That's all we've got time for today. We'll be back on Thursday with the main pod. Those biscuits might not make it.

• 44:17Ant McPartlin?

  I don't think they will make it.

• 44:18Declan Donnelly?

  The crisp will make it. Look at that.

• 44:20Ant McPartlin?

  I mean, God, what is in that crisp?

• 44:22Declan Donnelly?

  It is still going.

• 44:23Ant McPartlin?

  That is still alive.

• 44:24Declan Donnelly?

  It will survive an apocalypse. But yeah, as I say, we'll be back Thursday for the main pod. Until then, thanks for watching. Thanks for listening.

• 44:31Ant McPartlin?

  Respect, guys.

• 44:32Declan Donnelly?

  Respect, guys.

• 44:33Ant McPartlin?

  And gals.

• 44:46Speaker 01

  Ugh, I hate Mondays.

• 44:48Speaker 02

  King's Hawaiian cinnamon swirl bite?

• 44:50Speaker 01

  Taylor Hansen? Sure, I'll try one. Mmm.

• 44:56Speaker 03

  Hey, let's get back to work, please.

• 44:57Speaker 01

  But Taylor Hansen's making my day way better with these new soft and swirly King's Hawaiian cinnamon bites.

• 45:02Speaker 03

  Taylor Hansen? Nice.

• 45:04Speaker 02

  Try one.

• 45:05Speaker 03

  Mmm.

• 45:10Speaker 05

  There's nothing like it.

• 45:17Speaker 05

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