Chelsea Handler: ON How Therapy Changed Her Life

If you’re on the fence about whether or not you can learn anything from therapy you’ll be interested to hear Chelsea open up about how it completely changed her life. She gets candid about losing her brother at such a young age and how she’s using tools she learned in therapy to cope with it now. Her vulnerability in this episode is inspiring for anyone who has had to deal with loss in their life. Just remember, I AM. Identification, Awareness, Modification. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:00Jay Shetty?

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• 3:09Speaker 01

  All of these things that build up and you kind of have like, you know, I know I've had the veneer, like, it doesn't matter, I'm, I'm, I'm cool with it. It does, it does matter, and it is a deep injury. And until you really repair your own injuries, you're not very useful to other people. So if you want to have a meaningful existence or life, and I want to do things that are impactful and make change, then I need to be get real about it.

• 3:38Jay Shetty?

  Hello, everyone. Welcome back to On Purpose, the number one health podcast in the world. Thank you so much for being here. I'm so excited to introduce you to our next guest. She's one of the leading figures in entertainment today. She's a talk show host, an activist, a comedian, and a bestselling author. And I'm so excited to introduce you and the podcast, Chelsea Handler. Chelsea, thank you so much for being here.

• 4:02Speaker 01

  Thank you. Thank you for having me.

• 4:05Jay Shetty?

  It's such a pleasure to have you here. I know we just connected, I think literally like 10 days ago. So you were speaking at this conference called Wisdom 2.0.

• 4:13Speaker 01

  You were also speaking.

• 4:14Jay Shetty?

  And I was there to do a bit of speaking too. And I remember this moment when I was being interviewed on stage, and then I saw you in the front row, and I was like, oh my God, it's Chelsea. Like, I had a moment where I, where I fangirled on stage. I'm not sure if it was obvious at all. And then I was really happy that I bumped into you later on at dinnertime. And so when, when we spoke and we connected, I, I felt your energy was awesome, and I'm so glad you came out here.

• 4:37Speaker 01

  Thank you. That's very nice. Thanks. Yeah, I went with my sister with my, because my psychiatrist. Which I have to say all the time now, my psychiatrist had referred me to that, or asked me if I had any interest in speaking at the Wisdom 2.0 conference in San Francisco, is what we're talking about. And I was like, well, not really, but sure, that sounds interesting. And he's like, well, we could talk about us, or you don't have to, you know, I can't talk about us. I'm like, well, then let me, because my entire book is about my relationship with my psychiatrist, and my kind of, for lack of, I hate the word journey, because The Bachelor ruined that around 10 years ago. But, but like, for lack of a better term, my experience with therapy and what it did,

• 5:19Speaker 01

  you know, I didn't think I needed it, and I didn't think I needed to calm down or slow down, and then I did. So it's all about that. So he said, hey, why don't you come and talk about, at Wisdom 2.0? And I was like, all right, well, I may as well start promoting the book, you know what I mean?

• 5:34Jay Shetty?

  That's what you do.

• 5:34Speaker 01

  That's what the book is about. So sure, let me get out there.

• 5:37Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, and I found that really refreshing. And the book's called, Life Will Be the Death For Me. It's out April 9. So for anyone who's listening or watching right now, it's probably past April 9 now, so you can go ahead and get the book. It's probably out by now. But that's what I love about the book. And when I saw you there, and I saw you when Wisdom 2.0 was sharing that you were going to be there, I was just like, wow, I'm really fascinated by your story and journey, lack of a better word, to mindfulness, to meditation, to personal growth and self-awareness. So we're going to dive into that today. My audience is in love with this theme, and I think they're going to gain so much from hearing about it from your perspective, which I think's going to be really unique for them. So one of the first things I wanted to ask you about was around the quote that you start the book with, from Gloria Steinem. And you talk about this quote,

• 6:21Jay Shetty?

  around how everyone's looking to find the right person, rather than trying to be the right person. And I wanted to ask you, why did you start the book with that quote? And why was that so important to you at setting the tone?

• 6:34Speaker 01

  Because I think a lot of like, you know, from my experience, a lot of my life has been about the end result rather than the being. It's about the doing and like the walking off the stage, not being on the stage. And I think that kind of transfers to people too. A lot of us are looking for someone to complete our lives, or somebody to like, you know, be the lid for our pot, so to speak. So for that theme is very important to me because I'm always been very like fiercely independent, almost to the point where it's like, no, when I'm gonna reject everyone, so nobody gets to reject me, you know. And so I have that kind of opposite, like I can do everything, I can handle this, I don't need help from anyone. So I relate to that theme because it's the opposite of what I

• 7:18Speaker 01

  feel. You know, I have it in the opposite direction. I just, you know, it's too powerful, too strong, too like, you know, I can fix everything. And I don't need a man, I don't need you, I don't need a family, I don't need anything. So, I mean, I think those are themes that we all have. It's one or the other for most people, I think.

• 7:36Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. And when I was reading through your book, one thing I found is that it's so open and vulnerable and honest. And one of the things that that reminded me of is this beautiful Banksy painting, I'm not sure if you've seen it, and it says, be with someone who makes you happy. And this little girl has crossed off the with, and then it turns into be someone who makes you happy. And it's a beautiful principle. And I think starting with that is such a powerful point, and it's a powerful message to everyone reading the book, because you're so right, that we've just never been taught to get to know ourselves. Like, one of the things I always talk about is how we've never had a moment to take a meeting with ourselves, even though we have meetings with everyone throughout the day.

• 8:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think that's important. I think, you know, you can kind of, you can lose the plot a little bit, you know, we're always into doing and what we're achieving, instead of figuring out what kind of person we're behaving like while we're on that road, you know, or to actually take the time and look outside your lane and look at other people's experiences and how they're unlike your own. Like, not, not many of us have the luxury to even do that. People are just trying to scrape by, you know. And so if I have the luxury to do it, I better do it. I better do that work. If I can afford to go see a psych Psychiatrist for a year, then yeah, I'm gonna be a better human being at the end of it, which is what I kept telling myself, even though it was painful and, you know, I didn't want to talk about all these things that I didn't think had a real impact on my life. I thought it was the past and I'm strong and I'm successful, so it doesn't matter.

• 8:59Speaker 01

  It doesn't, you know, if I'm in pain from a nine-year-old injury of my brother dying, if I'm in pain from, you know, my father's reaction of my brother dying. All of these things that build up and you kind of have like, you know, I know I've had the veneer, like, it doesn't matter, I'm, I'm, I'm cool with it. It does, it does matter and it is a deep injury. And until you really repair your own injuries, you're not very useful to other people. So if you want to have a meaningful existence or life, and I want to do things that are impactful and make change, then I need to be get real about it, you know? And so I had to get real with myself, which I thought I'd been being real forever. And then I was like, ugh, gross, I have to unfeel this? Like, it was so, it's such a cliche also.

• 9:42Speaker 01

  Like, me, you know, turning 40 and having going my midlife crisis and all of this kind of identity, uh, you know,

• 9:52Speaker 01

  kind of discovery what my identity is and my identity crisis. So it's all been like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But I figure, you know what, I've made a career out of oversharing. This is something worthwhile because not everybody can afford it. So we all are recovering from some injury we had, you know, as a child. But, you know, I have, there's a part of me that's very cynical and that's very much a realist. So I have a hard time with a lot of this LA mumbo jumbo. And spirituality can, can, can stink of mumbo jumbo a lot of the time. So, you know, it's, you don't, that's why I had a hard time with therapy because I thought it represented that. Like, oh, me navel gazing after I have a show and books about me, I'm gonna go talk about myself for two hours? Like, what kind of loser am I?

• 10:37Speaker 01

  So that's, you know, it was all about ego. Like, I can't, it's too much, you know what I mean? I'm a narcissist.

• 10:43Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, and we all have different excuses. Like, you're sharing some of the ones you have. And I think we all have excuses, whether it's to see a therapist, a psychiatrist, spirituality, whatever it is. And I want to dive into everything you just said, but I want to go back to what even opened you up? To the fact that, like you're saying, you had all these excuses in your head. You had the ego, the narcissism, all of these things that you talk about deeply in the book. What allowed you to go beyond that and say, okay, no, I really need to do this? And then stay committed? Because you say, when you first started meeting therapists and psychiatrists, you were just sitting there lying to people. And I'm not sure how many people actually go out there and are paying people to lie to them, which seems like a crazy thing to do. But how did you get beyond that last one, then find someone that you could?

• 11:22Speaker 01

  Well, I interviewed him on my Netflix show, my last show on Netflix. I interviewed him about brain adolescent brain development. And I, and he was very smart and literal, and he spoke in ways that I could talk about the brain in a non-emotional way. So I took that as my, like, you know, invitation to kind of discuss the brain with him. So when I realized I had to go see somebody, it was after the election, and I just had such outrage. And my anger was at a 10 all the time. And I couldn't work, I couldn't focus on anything but the news and this 24-hour spin cycle that it created. And I just was like, oh, my God, I have to harness this anger into something powerful and good, not this. I can't be this way all the time.

• 12:04Speaker 01

  And they were like robbing me of my life, this administration, and I allowed them to. And I was like, no, no, no, I'm not doing this. So I went, you know, there for that. And what I realized, what I uncovered with, through seeing the psychiatrist, because for the first three sessions, all I did was bitch and moan about Donald Trump. Like, I was paying somebody, you know, this money to listen to me complain about him. And I got a lot out of it. I mean, I would have paid him more. But after three sessions, like, we started to get real and started talking about what Donald Trump's, like, presidency represented to me, which was an unhinged childhood, when things were completely out of control. So for the first time in my adult life, things felt completely out of control. And it, like, reminded me of my brother going off and saying he was going to be right back and dying.

• 12:49Speaker 01

  Like, that was the other time my life was out of control. So that's why it triggered all this stuff on me. And so, talking to somebody and having somebody who has a degree in, you know, psychiatry and, and, and other things. Telling you, hey, this is, don't minimize an incident just because you weren't raped or sexually assaulted, you have a right to be in pain. You lost your brother, that's painful. You probably haven't matured much beyond that emotionally when it comes to men at nine years, from nine years old. And I was like, no, that's exactly what's happening. I'm a nine-year-old when it comes to romance, because my brother was like my crush, you know, I mean, he was the oldest, I was the youngest. And once somebody said that to me, I'm like, oh, my God, is it that obvious? Like, that's how basic this all is? Answer,

• 13:33Speaker 01

  yes, it is. And if you don't, you know, ask questions like that, or admit it to yourself, then you're just kind of masking pain.

• 13:42Jay Shetty?

  So I loved what you said there, because it's almost like giving yourself permission to feel pain. Like, a lot of us are masking ourselves from it, or we're like, oh, that didn't matter. Like, and for you, it was losing your brother, which you talk a lot about, how it actually defined you and your family for a period of time, before you went through this process, where you were able to actually say, I'm not gonna let that define me.

• 14:03Speaker 01

  Right. I mean, I think I was being defined by loss. I was being defined by, oh, you know, as a nine-year-old, I didn't have the ability to understand that my brother didn't have a choice. He didn't go kill himself. Or, to me, it felt like he left our family to go live with another family, because he found somebody he liked better, with a cooler little sister, or whatever. I was, you know, I didn't understand that it was an accident. So I was mad at him, and I was, I continued to be mad at people, you know, for any sort of vibe like that, which is, you know, what leads to not ever trusting men, or being in a relationship, and why I feel so, like, strongly about providing for myself, so that I don't have to rely on another person.

• 14:41Jay Shetty?

  How did you start revisiting these moments in a constructive way? When I hear you speak, it's like, you're able to find the patterns, you're seeing the parallels. Obviously, thanks to your psychiatrist, you're able to see that this event could have sparked this. How does someone relook at their life constructively, as opposed to destructively? Because it could feel like if you, I think the reason why we shun away from these things is because we're scared of diving back into a past experience and having to make sense of it.

• 15:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think, I mean, if it's really painful, you obviously, like, need a professional, because a lot of people aren't willing to, or capable, I think, or have the vocabulary to access your pain, you know what I mean? At nine, something happened to you that was traumatic when you were a child, you don't have the vocabulary to articulate that pain, so that carries with you to adulthood. And as an adult, you still don't have the vocabulary, even though you do. So I think that like you just have to really know that like unwelcome thoughts are great things to explore, you know, and everyone talks about that with meditation to like, don't try and shut up a negative thought or a doubtful thought, but actually welcome it and consider it and go, oh, okay, this is here, give it the airtime it needs so

• 15:50Speaker 01

  that maybe when it leaves, it's gone for longer rather than trying to tamp something away. So I think all of those things with regard to like memories when you're growing up, it's just you have to, you have to believe in science and data and understand that going through these conversations with someone is going to be a helpful event for you most often, unless you have some quack that doesn't give a shit about, you know, helping you. So I think most people are in this business because they want to help other people. So yeah, I think it's important to think about your, the memories you don't love. Don't obsess about them, but give them like the respect that they deserve so that maybe you can sort them out.

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• 17:57Jay Shetty?

  This episode is brought to you by Whole Foods Market. If you're talking about quality food, you can't forget Whole Foods Market, who've been holding themselves to the highest standards since they opened in 1980. That means you'll see thousands of organic products across their stores, from the produce department to the aisles. It also means you'll never see certain ingredients. They've banned artificial sweeteners and colors, high fructose corn syrup and more, so you can shop with peace of mind. Shop Whole Foods Market in-store or online. Yeah, I think a year ago, I completely agree with you. I made a video called "How Meditation Made Me a Bad Person", and it was because when I first started to meditate,

• 18:40Jay Shetty?

  it made me more aware of all the stuff I needed to deal with. And so all of this negativity was there, all of this other stuff was surfacing from my childhood, from my background. And so the video was all around that principle around like, it's not like you're meditating and you feel great straight away.

• 18:53Speaker 01

  No, I totally can relate to what you're saying. Because like, I said this to my doctor. I said, "Hey, listen, now that I'm meditating like 15 minutes a day", I mean, and this is hard for me. Like, I'm not into meditation the way I want to be. I want to get it because I know it's right and it's going to help. And I've already seen small signs of it helping with my patients and, you know, setting an intention for the day and, you know, yada, yada, yada. But I think like, when you do, you know, I think sometimes when you're addressing the very issues you have, the opposite side of those things becomes louder than normal. Because you're now more aware of your behavior. So that gets, that din gets a little bit louder. And you're like, "Wait, I'm becoming, I'm doing all the right things. Why am I having doubtful thoughts? Why am I having negative thoughts?"

• 19:36Speaker 01

  And you're like, "Because you're more aware", and those pass too.

• 19:41Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 19:41Speaker 01

  So I can relate to that.

• 19:42Jay Shetty?

  Oh, good. I'm glad. I'm glad. I thought it was just me. But it was that, yeah, the, the tradition that I studied as a monk would describe it as when you try and clean a room, a dusty room, the first thing that happens is the dust comes up in your face. And it feels cloudy. It doesn't feel comfortable. It's uncomfortable. Because you're trying to clean a place that hasn't been cleaned for a long time.

• 19:59Speaker 01

  Right.

• 20:00Jay Shetty?

  Or hasn't even been seen for a long time. But I love what you talk about in the book. You talk about us building bubbles. And, and I like the way you describe that because I do think, and you've mentioned the LA bubble a bit already, but it's like, we live inside a bubble. And then we all think we don't, but everyone has their own bubble. And then we're living inside multiple bubbles. Tell me about your experience when you started to recognize you're like, "Oh, wow, I'm in a bubble", and then, "How do I break this bubble?"

• 20:24Speaker 01

  I think, you know, again, with the election, it was like when all of this racist stuff was like coming to a head, you know, for me, I really thought like that we had gotten somewhere. Like, I was naive and it was, that just was another example of the bubble I live in. You know, is that I couldn't believe it. And we, more black people are like, it happens all the time. Like, why are you guys surprised now? Like, why are white people not better allies and advocates to people of color? And that's what I spent my time doing last year, reading books, you know, like James Baldwin and Ta-Nehisi Coates, or however you say his name, I always screw it up. But, you know, like, really just thinking outside of my own experience, because clearly I'm part of some fucking lucky club, because

• 21:08Speaker 01

  I don't have to, you know, worry about what I'm gonna do next, even though I do, you know, I can pretty much do whatever I want. And you have to realize that's a rarefied experience to have. And I just thought I deserved it for a really long time, until I really started to be like, okay, you know, scared about what was happening in the world and looking around. And I'm embarrassed that it took that long.

• 21:30Jay Shetty?

  I have so much respect and admiration for you for having to do that at that stage, like, right now in your life, because I think it's wonderful that, when I hear you speak, it's like I recognize the judgment you have on yourself and just like, you know, I know how much you want to change. And at the same time, I'm just like, Chelsea, no, thank you. Like, thank you for doing this. Because I think that what it's showing is that it's never too late or too early. It's never like, oh, you're too far gone, or you're not. It's not this process of like, oh, I wish I learned this when I was a kid. It's like, no, I'm gonna take responsibility now, and I'm going to change it now. And I think that's so refreshing. I think it's gonna help so many people.

• 22:04Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 22:04Jay Shetty?

  So, from my side, I'm genuinely just excited to see your journey be a catalyst for so many people to just push out of their own complacency, me included, and all of us to look beyond that.

• 22:16Speaker 01

  Well, that would be great. I mean, can you imagine? I start a movement?

• 22:20Jay Shetty?

  I think you can. I believe you.

• 22:21Speaker 01

  Embracing your grief.

• 22:22Jay Shetty?

  I believe, is that what we're gonna call it?

• 22:24Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 22:24Jay Shetty?

  Can we come up with a shorter title?

• 22:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, embracing your grief. It doesn't sound like an upper.

• 22:28Jay Shetty?

  No.

• 22:29Speaker 01

  I'll think of something else.

• 22:30Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, we need some good marketing. But no, I mean it like I'm and I'm not just saying it like when I see you talk about this story, when I see you share this message, I get so excited and activated.

• 22:40Speaker 01

  Oh, thank you.

• 22:41Jay Shetty?

  Because there's so many people watching you that admire you for so many different talents that you have. And then when you say, actually, all of this, like, this is giving its meaning, right? Like, this is now giving it meaning.

• 22:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, I suppose so.

• 22:52Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 22:53Speaker 01

  It's hard, you know, like to think of yourself in that way. So, you know, you just try.

• 22:57Jay Shetty?

  I'm doing it for you.

• 22:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, thank you. Great. I'm glad you did. Thank you.

• 22:59Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. And you talk about this book, Man Says for Meaning, which I had on my, which I had on my bookshelf. So I picked it up for this session. You talk about this book changing your life. How did you even come across it? And how did it, how did it impact you?

• 23:09Speaker 01

  I don't know. You know, I read a lot of really hard books when I was in my twenties because I skipped college. So I was overcompensating in a major way because my family is, you know, they all did go to college. So I didn't want to be like the one that didn't go and not have my wits about me. So I read a ton. And that was just one of the books. I mean, that's a book that so many people have read and people quote from all the time. But it really just, it was an aha moment, reading that line out of a book, which is something my dad told me to do at a very young age, like, take one line out of every book, even if you don't like it. And that, that, that you take with you in life, that you think about, you know what I mean, and contemplate. And, you know, when I was a kid, I was like, oh, please just shut up. Like, I would just make up lines, you know, out of Anna Karenina. I'm like, here, this line right here. But that book was the first book that I saw the line. And it was, you know,

• 23:54Speaker 01

  stop asking what life expects out of you and start asking, no, stop asking what you expect out of life and start asking what life expects out of you, something along those lines.

• 24:04Jay Shetty?

  Yes, yes, that's it, yeah.

• 24:05Speaker 01

  And I was like, wait, what? I was like, wait, what's life expecting from me? It's like you grow up and you think you want, and you're greedy, and you want this, and you want success, and you want money, and you want happiness, and all of whatever you want. And you're never, I never thought, what is life expecting from me? I'm just like, they're lucky to have me, was my attitude.

• 24:25Jay Shetty?

  I'm a blessing to the world.

• 24:27Speaker 01

  Right.

• 24:27Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. And then, no, that's.

• 24:28Speaker 01

  Talking about, yeah.

• 24:29Jay Shetty?

  No, I love that. And that is a beautiful piece of advice from your father. Like, I think everyone who's listening or watching the podcast right now, make sure you do that. Because I think so often we feel like, oh, I Have to finish a book to understand it. And you know, we, we place so much emphasis, like what you said at the beginning of the show, uh, beginning of the episode, you were talking about. It's always about results. And we're always like, oh, how many books have you read? Or how did you get to the end of that book? And actually, you could just take one line out of every book. And it could be transformative.

• 24:55Speaker 01

  The one book that I've never finished was Salman Rushdie Midnight's Children, because I couldn't, I didn't understand where the hell the man was or the boat. Or I didn't know what continent we were on. I was reading that and I'm like, I can't finish. And I had such like OCD about finishing books as a child, growing up. That I, I always did finish. It was the first book I did not finish with Salman Rushdie. I was like, I can't, I don't know what this is about and I cannot finish it. I mean, Kierkegaard was easier to get through.

• 25:20Jay Shetty?

  Oh, wow.

• 25:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:21Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, no, and I, I've had plenty of books that I've never read front of, uh, back to front, but I found so much value in. Like, it's not about that.

• 25:30Speaker 01

  Right. It's about taking, like, I always think now, oh, if something's in front of me, like an article or somebody forwarded me something like, there's something in there for me. So just read it or watch the video for as long as you can and try and just grab something from it, you know?

• 25:43Jay Shetty?

  Absolutely.

• 25:43Speaker 01

  So sometimes it's like really kind of people are putting stuff in front of you. It feels like, oh, wait, you're supposed to see it, you know? And I'm not into that, all of that stuff. But I definitely think that their energy makes a big difference in this world.

• 25:57Jay Shetty?

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• 27:01Speaker 02

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• 27:04Speaker 03

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• 27:05Speaker 02

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• 27:10Speaker 03

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• 27:18Speaker 04

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• 27:22Speaker 03

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• 27:25Speaker 04

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• 27:32Jay Shetty?

  And I'm really glad you said that because I love how in the book, and I share this with you because I'm born and raised in London. I grew up as a complete rebel until the time I was 18. Most of it still lasted till 22 when I became a monk finally. But I started off in a very unspiritual environment, was never fascinated by spirituality or anything of that sort. I studied behavioral science at business school. So the brain and the mind for me is where I come alive and love talking about research and all the rest of it. But I love how you call out the superficial use of the word gratitude, universe, crystals, for the sake of it, not offending anyone. But I like the point that you make very strongly that that's not really it. And I kind of feel like what service, what disservice do you think that does to this wisdom

• 28:18Jay Shetty?

  that you've now opened up yourself? Because I guess you and others may have been pushed back by that kind of language.

• 28:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, I definitely have been. But I mean, that's LA. I think LA is very specific to, you know, it's not like, you know, people think that, yeah, it is a turnoff in a way. For me, it certainly was. It was a turnoff for like therapy. I just group it all together, you know, therapy, crystals, colonic's. Like, no, thanks. I'm not into any of it.

• 28:41Jay Shetty?

  Before you came in today.

• 28:43Speaker 01

  So like, I just don't, but I'm sure, watch, catch me in two years. I'll be like, you know, shoving crystals up my ass. This is amazing. I love it. I mean, I've definitely gone down the road of every trend and fad in LA. I mean, some a lot less than others. You know what I mean?

• 28:57Jay Shetty?

  Which ones have you gotten into?

• 28:58Speaker 01

  Like, you know, I've tried, I mean, and I haven't gone off the deep end in the way that my like, you know, girlfriends have. But like, I've, you know, cleansed for five days or, you know, fasted for five days. I've done, you know, diets and all sorts of things. I mean, I guess I don't have the stick-to-it-iveness that I, that my friends do with this stuff. But yeah, I usually lose interest like two to three days in when it's like something silly or I'm drinking charcoal or, you know what I mean?

• 29:25Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, that's for whitened teeth? Is that what it is?

• 29:28Speaker 01

  No, I'm not sure what it's for. I think it's for a chondoscopy. So I have no idea why I would be drinking it at home. But there's just a lot of things in it, you know, like healers. You know, that's a great thing, but it's not as big of a community as people make it out to be. You know what I mean? There are real healers and then there are not real healers. And there are, you know, all sorts of varying degrees of bullshit in this town.

• 29:51Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 29:51Speaker 01

  So it's, it's just important to make sure, you know, like you're not a moron.

• 29:56Jay Shetty?

  And how have you separated that? Like, how have, how have you gone through it? Because I think that's useful. I like what you're saying right now. I think so many people will agree with that, especially people who've come across the community, the tribe, the space, whatever it may be. What's been your way of just calling out stuff and saying, that's not real? That doesn't work.

• 30:11Speaker 01

  Well, I don't really call it out. I just, it's like, whether it works or not for you is up to you. So like, if I had a better attitude and a less cynical attitude and I went to a psychic and I wanted to believe all of it, then great, I could live in that hubris for the next five days. And maybe it's real or not, but like, I don't want to do that anymore. Like, that's not a good use of my time. I don't think that I need, you know what I mean? Like, I can, I, there are things that I find interesting. I don't call it out. I don't want to put people down for what they believe in. I mean, unless they're, you know, ridiculous friends and I could just say it to them, which usually I've tried to do, but I try to do less of now. But I think that you just say, no, you're not into it. You know what I mean? Like, my friend just opened a Korean spa and it's like, you gotta come, you gotta come.

• 30:52Speaker 01

  And I go, buddy, I'm just not into getting my face, my body scrubbed by a bunch of women. Like, it's not my thing. I like massages. Open up as a massage spa and I'll come. Like, you just kind of say no, and it's not personal. It's just my preference.

• 31:05Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. Now I'm really happy you came on this podcast. Because you could have just been like to me, no, I'm not coming on podcasts.

• 31:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, I could have.

• 31:10Jay Shetty?

  I don't like, I don't like spiritual podcasts.

• 31:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, right, right. But here I am.

• 31:14Jay Shetty?

  But here you are. So I feel better than your friend with the Korean spa. How did, tell me about some of, you alluded to it then. What are some of the things that have changed habits wise? Lifestyle wise? You just said there, I try and do it less.

• 31:26Speaker 01

  Like, being less reactive. My thing is I was always telling everybody the truth ad nauseam, like whether they wanted it or not. You know, it didn't have to be like solicited. And I just was like this. Loudmouth and like finally I was just like fuck who do I think I am like cool it. Why, why am I inserting myself and having like these strong opinions based on very little knowledge, you know, and so I think after a while and plus I just got burned out, you know, with everything and working so hard and so fast without taking a look around and missing kind of those integral moments that you want to remember and have valuable time with. So the things, sorry, I'm rambling.

• 32:03Jay Shetty?

  No, no, no.

• 32:03Speaker 01

  To answer your question, the things that have changed, well, I meditate now. My doctors say commit to three months and so I've, I've done it and I'm like now into it. Like I do it every day. Yeah, 15 minutes a day, which is big for me.

• 32:16Jay Shetty?

  It's amazing.

• 32:16Speaker 01

  Um, I am less reactive. I don't say what's off the top of my, you know, uh, my, I don't.

• 32:22Jay Shetty?

  How have you stopped that one because that sounds hard.

• 32:24Speaker 01

  I just, it's so much cooler to just sit back and not say anything when somebody, you know, you don't have to like correct people or tell them what's right. It doesn't matter. Like just chill out. I mean, I take a lot of cannabis also, just so you know, like this is part of my program because it, because it cut my drinking in half mostly. And then I realized like the great benefits of that. So then I got all passionate about that and how it makes you more present and more mellow and like for me especially, it's great, ameliorant. So that's changed a lot. I, you know, I'm just more present and I also don't, you know, when someone sends me a text or an email that annoys me or I don't like, I don't ever respond now. Like I used to just be like, you know, sitting there typing angrily on my phone and it's like,

• 33:08Speaker 01

  it's not a hot look. So just cool and shit like, you know, cool it and relax. And that's my attitude towards everything now.

• 33:14Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 33:15Speaker 01

  So between the meditation, the cannabis, the therapy, I mean, I'm killing it.

• 33:20Jay Shetty?

  I love it. I love it. You're, you're, you're killing life. I love it. No, that's great. It's, it's awesome. We all know that life is made up of habits and what we break it down into and you're only going to let go of bad ones when you take on new good ones. So it's nice to see that. And yes, 15 minutes is huge.

• 33:33Speaker 01

  And it's also, it's great to recognize when you feel like, you know, if I feel like I'm losing my patience, I know myself now and I'm like, okay, either remove yourself from the situation or get your shit together. Like you're not going to snap at a person. You're not doing any of that, you know?

• 33:48Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 33:49Speaker 01

  So that's good. It makes you feel like an adult more, which is a feeling I've never had in my life.

• 33:55Jay Shetty?

  I love that. Yeah, no, I completely agree with you. And we still all have our moments where we do snap or we don't react the way we want to, etc. But it's a marathon, right?

• 34:05Speaker 01

  Or you leave your therapist and get down to the parking lot and get into an argument with the guy who's parking your car. I mean, that's happened to me where I've been like, you are such a fucking asshole. Meanwhile, two seconds ago, I'm like, you know, meditating with my psychiatrist.

• 34:17Jay Shetty?

  And he's watching from the window and shaking his head.

• 34:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, but I said that. I remember telling him, I go, oh, my God, you should have seen me. I go, I left there and just got in a fight with this guy in the parking lot. And he's like, well, at least you know you like, at least you're identifying it now. He goes, you, two years ago, you would have done that without thinking twice about it. Like, next time, don't do it.

• 34:35Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, we undervalue just identifying, right? We undervalue that. We undervalue that because we want to skip from doing something bad to never doing it again. And the point in the middle is identification and recognition and acknowledgement of a mistake we're making. And that's like such an important step.

• 34:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, I agree with that for sure. I think identification, awareness and modification is an acronym that my guy Dan taught me, which is, you know, identifying the issue is half the battle. And then, you know, you're aware of it and then just modify it. Just don't react. Don't do the thing that you do every single time. Do something different. And then before you know it, that's your habit. And that's rehabilitating yourself to like all the positive things.

• 35:15Jay Shetty?

  For sure. Identification, modification.

• 35:18Speaker 01

  No, come on, keep up. Identification, awareness, I am, modification.

• 35:24Jay Shetty?

  Oh, I am. I like that. I'm not ready. I'm not ready. Oh, no. This is good. Look, you're sounding like a psychiatrist now, but you just told me you're not ready.

• 35:33Speaker 01

  What a pivot for my career. Now I'll be giving grief counseling therapy sessions with absolutely no degree.

• 35:40Jay Shetty?

  But on TV, but on TV to reach more people.

• 35:44Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 35:44Jay Shetty?

  It may work, it may not work.

• 35:45Speaker 01

  A televangelist.

• 35:47Jay Shetty?

  I love it. I love it. And with this book, I mean, writing it must not have been easy, I feel.

• 35:53Speaker 01

  It wasn't hard. It was, I welcome that kind of like, I like a challenge.

• 35:56Jay Shetty?

  You like challenging yourself, right?

• 35:57Speaker 01

  But yeah, I was definitely in a lot of different parts of the world, crying in airports or on planes, writing it. And even rereading it, it still is like hard. Even when I did the audio recording, it was hard. And so I'm doing this tour and I'm going around the country to different cities and I'm doing, instead of doing stand up, I'm having a Different celebrity in each part of the country interview me. Somebody who's like Sean Hayes is doing Chicago. Natasha Lyonne is doing New York City and so on and so forth. So, yeah, and if you come to that, you get a book also.

• 36:29Jay Shetty?

  Oh, nice. I love that.

• 36:29Speaker 01

  So it's LiveNation.com. You can buy tickets for that. It starts April 11th in Boston.

• 36:33Jay Shetty?

  Oh, I love that. That sounds fun. How many cities are you doing?

• 36:35Speaker 01

  Twenty.

• 36:36Jay Shetty?

  Oh, wow.

• 36:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:36Jay Shetty?

  Okay, brilliant. That's gonna be a lot of fun. So, yeah, wherever you are in the US, you can head over. Are you doing anything in UK as well?

• 36:43Speaker 01

  No, not the UK, no.

• 36:44Jay Shetty?

  No, the UK, sorry, guys. You have to wait. You have to, you're not ready.

• 36:46Speaker 01

  No.

• 36:47Jay Shetty?

  You're not ready. Everyone in London, England, you're not ready.

• 36:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, that would be a real wake-up call in London.

• 36:51Jay Shetty?

  I know. Can you imagine that? You think you're cynical. The cynicism in England is huge. Like, having grown up in London my whole life, like, the amount of cynicism around self-growth, personal growth, personal development is huge. Like, one of the things that I found refreshing when I moved to New York two and a half years ago now and then when I moved to LA was so many people would say, "Oh, I was just with my therapist the other day." I've never heard that in my life, living in England. Like, that's a big cultural difference.

• 37:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, for sure.

• 37:16Jay Shetty?

  Just in terms of-

• 37:16Speaker 01

  I have a British friend who lives here and she's like, "Oh, my God." You know, she's like, "Oh, everybody's all therapied out here."

• 37:23Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 37:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, meanwhile, cut to, she'll be in therapy.

• 37:26Jay Shetty?

  Oh, she's not yet?

• 37:27Speaker 01

  Within the next two weeks.

• 37:28Jay Shetty?

  She's not yet?

• 37:28Speaker 01

  Oh, no, she is.

• 37:29Jay Shetty?

  Oh, she is. Okay, okay, she is, she is. Yeah, it seems to be positive and it's about finding that right person. That's how I've always felt about it, that it's finding that right person and then it just, it's just waiting, I guess, till you feel you can be honest with someone.

• 37:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:42Jay Shetty?

  Right, until you keep lying. But, okay, so, one of the things I want to talk to you about that you bring up a lot in the book is this feeling of what empathy really is and how so often we think we're showing ourselves crying for other people or feeling for other people, but really we're just doing it so that we can be seen that way.

• 38:00Speaker 01

  Well, some people, no. I mean, I don't speak for everybody.

• 38:03Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, of course.

• 38:03Speaker 01

  But for me, I was sympathetic, but I lacked empathy. Like, I was-

• 38:08Jay Shetty?

  Explain the difference for us?

• 38:09Speaker 01

  Sympathy is like if you see somebody, a homeless person who needs money, you give it to them. But empathy is actually thinking about what it is like to be a homeless person asking for money. Like putting yourself in that person's shoes. So I'm great at showing up in a crisis and being like, you know, a fixer and doing all of that stuff. But I was never really considering what that person was going through. You know, I want to do the Band-Aid and fix them up and patch them up. But I want everything to be back to normal because I, you know, know how to fix a bad situation because of my brother dying. So like that led to me to kind of never think of empathy. Like I had to ask what the distinction was as well. And so it's eye opening. And once you identify again that you don't have something or you're, that's not your like,

• 38:55Speaker 01

  you know, muscle that you've been using and you look out for it, then you're already in, you know what I mean? You're already so much better off. You just have somebody tell you. I was so excited when he told me like these things that I was missing. I'm like, okay, great. Where do I get it?

• 39:09Jay Shetty?

  Yeah.

• 39:09Speaker 01

  Like, do I buy it or like, you know, and or do I, you know, build it? And so that is great. What's great, the powerful, like, you know, the power of the human mind and how you could create stuff that you have a deficit in, so to speak.

• 39:23Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, I love how the book oscillates between playful and profound. And I was wondering how your, the comedian in you has transformed through this journey. Because I guess that's been such a strong part of your identity for so long.

• 39:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, but yeah, yeah, I don't know. I mean, I

• 39:38Jay Shetty?

  The book's very funny.

• 39:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, it has to be for me. I wouldn't want them to read a something and expect something from me that doesn't deliver on that front. I mean, it's going to be much deeper than people had probably expected.

• 39:49Jay Shetty?

  I think that too, playful and profound.

• 39:51Speaker 01

  But it's, yeah, I think it's for me, I can't digest anything too serious. I need funny, like a little bit, you know what I mean? And there's already been too much seriousness with this, with the election and politics. It's too much. Like I needed to get away from all of that and focus on something that I'm going to do with my life and other people that, you know what I mean? Like I want to really do something and make a difference in a way. So it's about that. And yeah.

• 40:17Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, it is a challenge that we fill our lives speaking about, thinking about, and gossiping or talking about something that we don't like. It is funny how that just evolves so quickly.

• 40:27Speaker 01

  We like the negative.

• 40:28Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, we just find that every one of our conversations, every one of our meetings ends up being about what we don't like, and hence we're not building or putting energy into anything practical. Like you're saying, you needed to get away from it. I mean, that's one of the things so a lot of people say to me, like with the videos I make online, like, why do you think that's working or whatever in the last couple of years that I started making content? And a lot of the feedback, I think, is because people want to move away from everything else that they see on social and everything that they see on the news.

• 40:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 40:53Jay Shetty?

  They're looking for alternatives.

• 40:54Speaker 01

  Right, yeah, yeah. People want alternatives. I mean, there was just a stat that came out about Alexandria Ocasio-Ortiz getting more Twitter, and all of her tweets are positive, and they did some, you know, saying that she's getting as much, more attention than Donald Trump for all the positivity she's creating versus his negativity, which is good, great. Let's go with that.

• 41:13Jay Shetty?

  Yep, yeah, let's go with that. Absolutely. That was the article I was sharing as well, that Inc. did that piece on the 777 million Facebook posts of 2018, and the most popular ones were all positive. They were all uplifting. The top 500 were not full of the negativity. So it shows that there is a shift in humanity. Like, we are changing as a whole, not just you, but your change is very...

• 41:33Speaker 01

  Well, it's, I don't think it's, we're changing. I think people are inherently good or inherently bad, and I think there's more good than there is bad. I mean, I'd like to think that, but I also think that it's just more exposed now because we have the capacity to make these videos that you make, you know, so well. Like, people have, they can spread the love and share the love, and they can spread the hate, and they can share that too. So it's just a matter of which one has more people. So like, let's get everybody on the right side of things.

• 42:01Jay Shetty?

  Let's shift. So this book's gonna do it.

• 42:02Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 42:03Jay Shetty?

  We're gonna make more videos.

• 42:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, this should change everything.

• 42:04Jay Shetty?

  This should change everything. This book is gonna define now. But, but it is, it is hopeful. It is hopeful. Like, I, I don't know how you see it now, like, having gone through the process, I'm got, where are you at with how things are now, and how's your viewpoint changed?

• 42:18Speaker 01

  Well, I think things are moving in the past with regard to...

• 42:21Jay Shetty?

  With regard to the state of politics.

• 42:23Speaker 01

  Oh, I just think optimism is great because I think, you know, positivity is better than negativity, and optimism and visualization of positive things works. I mean, like, it's just about like, which direction do you want to go in, you know? Which road do you want to go down? I'd rather be happy, you know, than pissed.

• 42:42Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I think for me, it's that... Feeling of being activated and energized to be a part of that change, to try and push forward, do something different, which I see, you know, and I know we're joking two seconds ago about this book changing the world, but it's it's still someone like yourself taking a stance to say, I'm choosing this side, I'm going this way. And I think that's important. I think the more people that choose to do that with their platforms and everything will will help people move that way. Because it's you verbalizing your choice to everyone, which you could have just made to yourself. What made you want to do it for everyone else? Like, what made you want to articulate this to other people?

• 43:18Speaker 01

  I think my just experience with my therapist, I thought, you know, I was taking time a year off and all I was doing was like campaigning for people or throwing fundraisers in my house to try and, you know, flip the house in 2018. So during that time, I was like, all right, I'll go to therapy while I'm doing it. And then after like a couple of months, I started writing stuff down. I'm like, wait a second, this could help people that can't afford to do this. This could help people who have that childhood pain that they can't unlock and they don't know why they're failing at things in their life as a result of it. Or why, how it's in fact, you know, impeding themselves, you know, their growth. So then I started writing it and I was like, oh, this is really personal. Like, no one's gonna want to read this. It's too personal. It's like, you know, it's a bummer. It's like, you know, some, there's a lot of death in the book.

• 44:03Speaker 01

  And and then I, my editor just kept pushing me. She's like, I think you need to just write what's happening with you right now. Like, write it all. Like, I don't care if it's, I'm like, this is gonna be a death book. Like, this is, no one wants this. And she just kind of pushed me to do it. And then through it, I was like, this is exactly what I should be writing about. Oh, my God. And then I was like, oh, wow, this is gonna be some something people can look to who don't, you know, who have the same feelings. Since I wrote it and since I recorded the audiobook, I've heard like two other people, just in passing, people I didn't know, with the same identical stories as me. So I can't even imagine how many people are out there.

• 44:43Jay Shetty?

  Hundred percent. And I think that's so true that when we put out a story, it attracts that community together, who have that same story and experience, which we think often that we're the only one who are having that experience, but it is shared, it is a shared experience.

• 44:55Speaker 01

  It's shared and that's where the strength comes in, you know what I mean? That's such an energy attraction because people are so into, you know, commiserating with other people and finding out that they're not alone. Like, no one is alone. What you've experienced, someone else has experienced.

• 45:10Jay Shetty?

  Such a powerful point, yeah, so true. Never feel alone, yeah. There are so many people going through the same thing. And, I mean, the book does focus on, have a lot of death in it, but also you dedicate two chapters to your dogs.

• 45:21Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 45:21Jay Shetty?

  And I thought that was-

• 45:22Speaker 01

  Three, I have three dog chapters.

• 45:24Jay Shetty?

  Three dog chapters, okay.

• 45:25Speaker 01

  The two, the brother and sister only deserve one chapter, plus they're assholes, so they don't get their own chapters. But the other two, yes, God rest their souls. They deserved it. Chuck, for sure, deserves his own chapter.

• 45:37Jay Shetty?

  Yeah. Tell us about how much joy they've brought into your lives? How long have they been around?

• 45:41Speaker 01

  Oh, I have these two idiot dogs now. They're like a brother and sister named Bernice and Bertrand. I did not name them, so obviously I went to, I like Chow Chow mixes. So I went to a shelter north of LA, like two hours north, and she had a bunch of Chow mixes. And then she's like, but I have a brother and sister named Bert and Bernice. And I was like, I don't even need to see them. Like, that's, those are my dogs, bring them to me. And then she's like, oh, we have to do a home inspection. And I thought, what?

• 46:06Jay Shetty?

  Oh, my God.

• 46:07Speaker 01

  You don't really, but I thought, you know, I would let you go through my taxes with a forensic accountant if it meant I could have these two dogs named Bert and Bernice living at my house. They're like little lions.

• 46:17Jay Shetty?

  I call them to see them.

• 46:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's a big fat baby and she's a big fat, she's a big fat bitch. So I'm happy, yeah. They're very challenging. They love my cleaning lady. They don't want to be alone with me.

• 46:28Jay Shetty?

  Oh, wow.

• 46:28Speaker 01

  Unless I'm in a car, and then they'll go anywhere with me. So that's how I have to lure them. It's been a real bait and switch operation at my house.

• 46:35Jay Shetty?

  Amazing.

• 46:36Speaker 01

  And my brother, or my nephew moved in, and he's got an Australian shepherd. So we have three dogs now.

• 46:40Jay Shetty?

  Wow.

• 46:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 46:41Jay Shetty?

  Wow. Do you think that they're any, do you have any thoughts on like dogs positivity?

• 46:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, they're positive, for sure.

• 46:48Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, good friends and-

• 46:49Speaker 01

  Yeah. I mean, I like people that like dogs.

• 46:52Jay Shetty?

  Right. Nice, nice. I like little dogs. It took me a while because growing up in an Indian household, the closest thing you have to a pet is a fish, which I don't think really counts. And then when I moved to the US and I had so many friends who had dogs, I was like, oh, okay, now I'm going to figure out which types of dogs I like. I like small dogs.

• 47:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:07Jay Shetty?

  That's kind of where I'm.

• 47:08Speaker 01

  Well, that's good that you know that.

• 47:09Jay Shetty?

  Yeah, I know that. I'm self-aware. I'm identifying.

• 47:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:13Jay Shetty?

  Awareness and then modification. I'm going to remember that now. I am. I really like that. So now that I met you at Wisdom 2.0, which I believe is a wonderful conference. It was such a pleasure to meet there and speak there. I'm excited to see you be in those places, but also in the places that you are, where you do have your presence already, sharing this message. I'm so excited for the book to be out. We're recording this a bit before the book's out, but I'm so excited for the book to be out. I'm so excited to see how it helps and affects and supports so many people. And I'll be cheering on Mediting from the Sidelines for its success.

• 47:45Speaker 01

  Oh, thank you.

• 47:46Jay Shetty?

  And for it to meet a lot of people. But is there anything, Chelsea, I always ask yourself, is there anything I haven't let you share? Or you feel like I missed? Or you're like, you didn't let me share this. I really need to.

• 47:54Speaker 01

  No, I feel like I've shared.

• 47:56Jay Shetty?

  Okay.

• 47:56Speaker 01

  I feel like we're good, right?

• 47:58Jay Shetty?

  Amazing. Awesome. Yeah, no, so do I. I think you shared beautifully. Thank you so much for being open, vulnerable, and sharing so beautifully on the podcast. Thank you so much.

• 48:05Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 48:06Jay Shetty?

  Thank you.

• 48:12Jay Shetty?

  Thank you so much for listening through to the end of that episode. I hope you're going to share this all across social media. Let people know that you're subscribed to On Purpose. Let me know. Post it. Tell me what a difference it's making in your life. I would love to see your thoughts. I can't wait for this incredibly conscious community we're creating of purposeful people. You're now a part of the tribe, a part of the squad. Thank you for being here. I can't wait to share the next episode with you.

• 49:32Speaker 05

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• 50:02Speaker 02

  Mr. President, my company tore me of the explosion on our rig on October 2nd. Causing massive water displacement and triggering a tsunami. They all heap the blame on me. Tom Cruise is.

• 50:12Speaker 03

  Digger got us into this mess, and Digger's gonna dig us up. From the director of Birdman and The Revenant.

• 50:18Speaker 04

  What would happen if I stopped drilling? You're stalled, you're freezing there, that's what.

• 50:23Speaker 03

  With great power comes great deniability.

• 50:26Speaker 04

  I'm not the first daddy.

• 50:27Speaker 03

  Digger. See the trailer online. Only in theaters October 2nd. Rated R. Under 17. Not a minute without parent.