The history of Ginger Nuts and understanding the Human Condition via the Temptation of Christ

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• 1:00Blindboy Boatclub?

  Pluck the Lenten pigeon drenched in St. Vincent's piss, you humpbacked endes. Welcome to the Blind Bite Podcast. There's long evening sun outside. You can't hear that fucking truck reversing, can you? There's also a fucking truck reversing. Can you hear that? I'm gonna turn off the limiter. See if you can hear the violence of that sound. There's been a truck. Can you hear it there? Can you hear that? I've got the limiter turned off. I've had that all day long.

• 1:45Blindboy Boatclub?

  Not even reversing. The truck isn't even reversing. It's cleaning a window. There's men cleaning a window on a tall building. And here we go.

• 1:58Blindboy Boatclub?

  You get that intermittent beeping, they're not even reversing. This, this, now there's a seagull getting involved.

• 2:07Blindboy Boatclub?

  So it's quite a noisy day, I've just turned off my limiter, so you could hear that properly. I'm gonna turn the limiter back on. Now, I use a thing called a limiter, which technically cuts out background noise, but it impacts how I speak. When I use a limiter, I have to be careful not to breathe audibly, because you get a weird sound like this.

• 2:35Blindboy Boatclub?

  You see that?

• 2:37Blindboy Boatclub?

  And I can't laugh, that's the limiter up at 100, I can't laugh. So what the limiter does is it only picks up when I'm speaking, but then anything that's that's breathy, it cuts it out. So if I breathe like,

• 2:53Blindboy Boatclub?

  it cuts it off, and then when I laugh, it sounds like it sounds like if a cheese grater could masturbate, and then this is what it sounds like with no limiter at all. You're just bareback in the environment there. You're getting everything there, see?

• 3:14Blindboy Boatclub?

  The sound of my annoying fan, the sound of my computer, and luckily where someone could fart next door and you'd hear it.

• 3:24Blindboy Boatclub?

  Now, I'd prefer to record like this, because you hear all of my voice, but then you get background noises, so all we have to do is turn the limiter back on, so you get this. But that's too much limiter, so let's go.

• 3:39Blindboy Boatclub?

  About here, here's okay, but still, I have to be careful with anything breathy. So all day I'm dealing with the sound of a beeping, reversing truck, which is getting in the way of recording. The truck isn't even reversing, it's lads washing the window of a large building. The truck is stationary, but they have the beeping noise on, as if it is reversing. And that truck beeping noise, the reverse beeping noise.

• 4:06Blindboy Boatclub?

  It's known as the backup beep, invented by a fella called Matsubaru Yamaguchi in Japan in 1963. And it's the same backup beeping noise everywhere around the world. And there's arguments that it doesn't work anymore. That in an urban environment, you hear so many trucks beeping and backing up every single day that we just ignore the noise. And also, it's a very easy noise for birds to mimic. So half the time, when you think you hear a truck reversing, it's a blackbird, a blackbird mimicking the sound of the truck reversing.

• 4:47Blindboy Boatclub?

  And now we've got a siren.

• 4:52Blindboy Boatclub?

  Let's just let the siren do its thing.

• 4:56Blindboy Boatclub?

  Before we turn the limiter back on. There we go. But yeah, you get birds, you get blackbirds in particular, mimicking the sound of the backup beep from trucks. And we don't really know why blackbirds do this. I read a very interesting study about mockingbirds in Texas over in America. But mockingbirds, they imitate many sounds. Mockingbirds will imitate the sounds of other birds and whatever sounds they hear in their environment. And as with blackbirds, it's the male, it's the male who sings, who sings all these songs. And, and the theory is, is that

• 5:40Blindboy Boatclub?

  a male mockingbird, the more songs and the more sounds that this mockingbird can imitate, then the greater that mockingbird's territory and the more resources that it has access to. It's like the mockingbird's song. It's listing out everything, everything that it knows and everything that it's heard. A bit like a hipster, a bit like a hipster who's trying to impress a woman. With how esoteric his knowledge of music is, or how many films he knows, or what books he's read. And the researchers arrived at this assumption because they found that the male mockingbirds in this area of Texas,

• 6:23Blindboy Boatclub?

  the ones that had the largest repertoire of mimicked noises and songs, they also were the ones who had territories that were larger and richer in food and resources. So the, can you hear it? Can you hear that beep?

• 6:45Blindboy Boatclub?

  So the blackbirds, the blackbirds that are fucking mimicking the sound of that backup beep in Limerick City, they're trying to attract a female blackbird, especially at this time of year. And they're saying like, did you know that the backup beep was invented by Matsubaru Yamaguchi in 1963 in Japan? But the female blackbird doesn't wanna hear that. What the female blackbird wants to hear is the blackbird doing impressions of frogs. Because if the blackbird is doing impressions of frogs, then what he's saying is, I live near a fucking pond, I do, with an endless supply of slugs and snails and flies and insects. Cause I live beside a pond and to prove it to you, here's the noise of a frog.

• 7:31Blindboy Boatclub?

  That's gonna get a blackbird his hole, not, do you like the sound of this truck? Well, baby, listen to this. Beep beep, beep beep, climb into my nest and we have a fuck. That's, that's what the blackbirds are saying, that's what they're saying. And then the female blackbirds are like, what the fuck are you talking about? What are you, I don't care about trucks or lorries or the beeping noises that they make. I'm a blackbird, I don't even know what they are. I don't even know what these things are. I want to, I wanna kill a snail with my beak and eat it. Tell me about snails.

• 8:13Blindboy Boatclub?

  And then the male blackbird is, he's like, I, I don't know anything about snails. I live in an alleyway in Limerick City. I don't know about snails. I can tell you about some bins and car alarms, maybe a siren. I could have a crack at a pigeon. Are you sure, are you sure you're not interested in, listen again? Beep beep beep beep beep beep. You're not into that, no. But noise pollution can actually, can really harm the reproductive behaviour of birds. Urban noise pollution and artificial noises can reduce bird populations. They can reduce the fecundity of male birds.

• 8:54Blindboy Boatclub?

  The closest thing, within the next five years, within the next five years, human men are gonna start getting catfished by AI. Artificial intelligence is gonna get so good that men are gonna think they have an online girlfriend who looks like a real woman and talks like a real woman. And he's gonna be spending his money buying her gifts to try and impress the artificial intelligence woman that doesn't exist. And that's what's happening to, to male urban blackbirds who mimic the sound of lorries that are reversing. Female blackbirds aren't interested in hearing this. And, and that's how those noises are contributing to biodiversity collapse.

• 9:38Blindboy Boatclub?

  I'm liable to go down to the two lads. I'm liable to go down to the two lads who are washing windows and say that to them. A, I can't record my podcast because you're beeping all day long. B, you're cockblocking a lot of blackbirds, you selfish, selfish men. So I'm very happy this week, 'cause I've been nominated for two awards. I made two pieces of television last year. I made a documentary called Blind Boy, The Land of Slaves and Scholars. And I adapted one of my short stories. Did you read about Arsene Fogarty? And I adapted that into a short film. And I made them both with my own production company.

• 10:21Blindboy Boatclub?

  I started a production company last year called Cunliffe's Well, which is named after the mythical well, the well of eternal inspiration where the salmon of knowledge lived and where the goddess sinning, the poet. Went to drink inspiration from the water and the well rejected her because she was greedy. And it overflowed and carried her body all the way down through Ireland into the Atlantic to form the river Shannon that flows through Limerick City. So I named my production company Conla's Well, after that well. And I have my own production company. It sounds fancy, but it's not that fancy.

• 11:03Blindboy Boatclub?

  It means creative control. It means the only person you answer to is the commissioner and that's it. You see, how, how making television works is if you're what's known in the industry as the talent. Talent is the person who appears on screen or maybe the writer. Let's just say you're a fucking comedian. You're a comedian and you want your own TV show and you're up and coming. Well, usually what happens is it's a production company that approaches you. One of the many production companies comes to you and says, would you like to make a TV show? I reckon we can get it on BBC. So you say yes.

• 11:42Blindboy Boatclub?

  And you're on the screen and you're writing, but it's the production company that's commissioned by the TV channel. And your production company might be a pack of pricks. They might not be interested in getting your vision on screen. They might be interested in taking that commission and instead of producing the best piece of work, they want to take big production fees and then put fuck all money on screen. You can lose a huge amount of creative control and all of a sudden the work that you've been making by yourself on the internet or your stand-up work is really good. But now this thing that you've made for television is not good at all. And that's a very, very common story. That's a very common story.

• 12:27Blindboy Boatclub?

  Like I've had, I've had production companies who I don't even know, who I've never worked with. Go to television channels on my behalf without even telling me and they will go to a television channel and pitch.

• 12:42Blindboy Boatclub?

  A horrendous idea. Male mental health with Blind Boy. Blind Boy goes up a mountain with a lot of young men and they lift up logs and cry. It's like reality television but with men crying. No mention whatsoever about underfunded mental health services or structural inequality. Just performative, performative slogans and cliches about men's mental health and just opening up. I've, I've had a TV production company who I've never met. Go to a TV channel and pitch to them the idea of a TV show where I interview people and I take my bag off. I'm not wearing a bag, I'm using my real face. An idea that I would never agree to, that I'd never do.

• 13:27Blindboy Boatclub?

  And then the TV production company would come to me and say, hey, we got a commission. This TV channel is interested in making this documentary that we haven't told you about at all, that we never contacted you about. And then I say, fuck off. Please don't pitch ideas to TV channels without asking me first. I don't even know who you are. But then other times you get lucky and you meet a production company full of like-minded, creative, nice people who wanna make good TV and that exists as well. Well, I've been making TV since two thousand and fucking nine, I think. So that's, Jesus, sixteen fucking years, Christ. I started young. I've been making TV for sixteen years.

• 14:12Blindboy Boatclub?

  So finally, I'm bypassing all of that shit and now I have my own production company. So if I make TV, the only person I have to answer to is the commissioner. So my production company has been nominated for two awards now. I've only made two things with this production company this year and they've both been nominated for awards. So I'm very, very happy with this information. It's the RTS Awards, which is the, the Royal Television Society. Which I don't know why it's called Royal, because it's Irish nominations, but I think they're, they're the wing of a larger television society in which the Brits are probably involved. I'm gonna have to just take the soup on that one. So the documentary and the short film have both been nominated for awards.

• 14:58Blindboy Boatclub?

  Well, technically of three nominations because the short film has been nominated twice. But it means that the short film and the documentary are going against each other in, in one category. Now, you know, I don't like awards. I, I, I don't like any type of external validation, but these are, these are industry awards. So it means that, it means that the film and TV industry have deemed these pieces of work worthy of being nominated for awards. And there's a very practical benefit to that. The only reason I make anything, the only reason I write books or make TV

• 15:39Blindboy Boatclub?

  is so that I can make more. I love the process. I adore the process, particularly writing. I love writing for television. I love writing with other people for television. I love working with really talented, passionate people. I love it. The bit when everything's finished and I can see it on a screen, that's actually the saddest part. That's the least enjoyable part. The enjoyable part is the journey and the process. That's what I live for. And I make things so that I can make more things. And getting industry awards, that's what brings more projects. It's that simple. Getting industry awards means that

• 16:23Blindboy Boatclub?

  something else would probably get made in the future. That's all I want. What is the next thing? What's the next project that gives me personal meaning? Where I get to wake up in the morning and say, today, I'm gonna do something that I love. And this thing that I love doing is also the reason my bills are paid. So I wanna do that for as, as long as humanly possible, until I die, ideally, especially with books. Cause my favorite thing in, my, writing books is my favorite thing in the whole world. I fucking adore writing books. And I write books so that another book gets commissioned. But with this TV shit and the production company, I'm taking stories from my books

• 17:05Blindboy Boatclub?

  that are written and then adapting them for television with other people. And I wanna speak again about humility and failure and the importance of failure. About one year ago, maybe 14 months ago, I did a podcast about failure, about if you're working in the creative industry, you must fail. You have to fail. You have to fail frequently. And what will keep you from creating is the fear of failure. But failure is inevitable. You must fail all the time. So like a year ago. One of these projects that just got nominated for an award. Did you read about Erskine Fogarty, the short film?

• 17:47Blindboy Boatclub?

  I'd spent about two years adapting that from a short story into a script. And a year ago, it had been almost commissioned. As in, all that needed to be done was the ink had to be signed. This was getting made, loads and loads of effort. Two years, two years of adapting this thing from a story into a script. And then at the very last minute, at the very last minute, they pulled the plug on the commission. The TV channel that was commissioning it pulled the plug. The worst thing that can happen, to have the plug pulled on a huge project with two years of work. To have the plug pulled just before you're about to sign the contract.

• 18:31Blindboy Boatclub?

  That fucking happened, that happened. One year ago, I did a podcast about it when it happened, I told you. That's failure, that is crushing failure. That's what that is right there. First time that ever happened to me. I was 24, I just made a TV pilot for Channel Four. I spent 18 months writing the script. We got it filmed, everything done, the pilot was made. Channel Four were like, we love it, we love it. This is gonna get made into a TV series. Yeah, most likely this will get made into a TV series. And then just before it was gonna get made into a TV series, the commissioners changed. And the commissioner axed the project.

• 19:13Blindboy Boatclub?

  Two years of work down the drain, didn't know what I was gonna do with my career. Thrust me into a deep fucking depression, really, really upsetting. I, I really took it personally, cuz I was like 24, 25, crushed me. Same thing happened last year, the exact same thing happened last year. I spent ages writing and developing a script. Surefire commission, ready to sign the fucking contract and then boom, it's all pulled away. Did I go into a deep depression when that happened last year? When the exact same thing happened last year? No, I did not. I was disappointed, I was appropriately disappointed and inconvenienced.

• 19:57Blindboy Boatclub?

  But did I tell myself, you're a fucking failure, you're never gonna work in television again, you're toxic, you have no talent, you're useless, you didn't get a commission because you have no talent. You have failed, you failed to get a commission and you have failed because you are a failure. That's the shit I told myself when I was twenty five. And that type of negative self-talk, I then start experiencing feelings of depression. And now my entire worldview becomes negative. I become afraid of failing again, I don't want to try again, it's too scary. What did I say to myself last year? Fuck it, this is what happens in the industry, that's disappointing, but it's just failure.

• 20:39Blindboy Boatclub?

  Happens all the time, I have to fail, I must fail. And because I looked at it through that realistic, that realistic lens. Now I'm not depressed, I'm appropriately disappointed. And I'm solution focused and I said to myself, fuck it. I thought that was gonna get commissioned and it didn't, bollocks, that's disappointing. I wonder can I salvage anything from the rubble here? Where are the positives? Well, the positives are, okay, I just spent two years writing a script. Didn't get commissioned, but at least I've got a fucking script that took two years to write. Let's see if anybody else wants it. And my production partner who adapted the script with me, just shopped it around and says, look, we've got a full fucking script, does anyone want it?

• 21:24Blindboy Boatclub?

  And then Screen Ireland came along and said, yeah, fuck it, we'll take that, let's make this. So we did, and now one year later, what was a crushing failure is now being nominated for an award. That's a success. And then next year I might have another failure. And the point I'm trying to make is, there's no such thing as failure. There is no such thing as failure so long as you keep trying. It's especially true for art, it's especially true for anything creative. But on a long enough timescale, there is no failure. That isn't also a gigantic lesson, like not getting that Channel Four series in my mid twenties. That crushed me. Was that a failure? No, it fucking wasn't.

• 22:06Blindboy Boatclub?

  I had the opportunity to learn how to write scripts for two years. Doesn't matter that it didn't get commissioned. Even though it failed, I got to write a script for two years and have it and run it past fucking professionals and make it into a pilot and work with a lot of professionals and learn and watch. There's no such thing as failure. Whatever the fuck you're doing, just stick at it, just stick at it. And when it, and expect failure. And then when it does fail, you say, great, I just failed. Where are the positives? What can I do next? How can I get back up? The only failure is doing nothing because you're scared to try. That's it. And I'm, I'm not sucking my own fluid here, talking about getting nominated for an award.

• 22:52Blindboy Boatclub?

  What I'm trying to do is I'm trying to illustrate how this theory is actually true. I did the podcast a year ago where I told you I've just had a crushing failure where something I've worked on for two years has not gotten commissioned. I'm really disappointed. And now a year later, the project got commissioned somewhere else and it's up for an award. I could have done nothing because I was scared to try. I had a choice. I could have chosen, I could have chosen to have said, I've just worked on something for two fucking years and it didn't get fucking commissioned. They told me it's because they didn't have the money, but really I know it's because I don't have any talent and they didn't believe in me. This is hopeless.

• 23:37Blindboy Boatclub?

  What's the point? What's the point in spending two years working on something only to get it rejected at the last minute? Why does this always happen to me? Why am I so unlucky? I'm the most unluckiest person in the world and bad things always happen to me because I'm a bad person. And I have spoken to myself that way in the past when I fail. And one reason is because of a, a lack of humility, placing myself worth, myself worth, my identity and my self-esteem into external achievements. When I was 25 and I got that fucking commission from Channel Four, the pilot. I thought I was the shit.

• 24:18Blindboy Boatclub?

  I was deeply insecure and I allowed the external validation of that to soothe and bam, to temporarily soothe my deep insecurity. The little boy, the little child in me, who wasn't good enough in school, who failed his leaving cert, who the teachers said was stupid. When I was in my mid twenties and I got that Channel Four commission and it got written about in the paper, I let it all temporarily reassure and soothe that wounded child. I measured my self-worth against my achievements. "Oh, you've just been given a pilot by Channel Four. Not many people get that opportunity. You must be fucking brilliant.

• 25:03Blindboy Boatclub?

  You must be an amazing person. You must be a good person. You must be a genius." All horse shit, all a big load of fucking horse shit. And then when it fails, now the work hasn't failed, but I've failed as a human being and it hurts so bad. And when the rejection came, when the failure came, I would have said things to myself such as, "You're a failure. You have no talent. You've been found out. You're inherently unlucky. Bad things happened to you. All the teachers who called you stupid were right. The principal who expelled you, she was right. You've just failed now. You've made a fucking idiot out of yourself. You've disappointed everybody.

• 25:45Blindboy Boatclub?

  You're a bad, broken person and anything good you've ever done before has been an accident." And that sent me into a spiral of creative block for like a year where I couldn't create because I was terrified of failing. I did nothing because I was scared to try for about a year and I can't get that year back. So why didn't that happen last year? Two years of work, commission pulled at the last minute, failure, when my attitude towards that failure was much more flexible and realistic, actively practicing humility. None, my work doesn't define my worth as a human being in any way. If I write a good book, if I write a book that I'm not happy with.

• 26:26Blindboy Boatclub?

  All it is is work. None of it has to do with me as a human being and my value as a human being. I just got nominated for two awards. I'm conscious and aware that that's an achievement. I'm conscious and aware that that is an achievement. That's hard to do. There's a lot of competition and also, the first ever things I've produced, I don't give a fuck. None of that makes me a good person. None of that makes me better than anybody else, more important than anybody else. None of it. Stories that I write, films that I make, whatever, these are just aspects of my behaviour. They're just aspects of my behaviour. They're pieces of work and they have nothing to do with me as a human

• 27:07Blindboy Boatclub?

  being. It's not really that important. What's important is the daily mindful effort of treating other people the way that I'd like to be treated. Cause that is effort. That is effort. Sometimes we get angry, pissed off, frustrated, and we're not as nice to people as we'd like to be. So the daily, active, self compassionate effort of treating other people the way that I'd like to be treated. I'd like to focus on that. That's what I wanna focus on. And if I get nominated for an award, I'm only happy because it probably means I get to make more work. But if I identify with that award nomination and start

• 27:48Blindboy Boatclub?

  to say, oh, look at you. You're class, you are. I must be better than other people because society says that this is an achievement. That's a very intoxicating drug and I have to resist that temptation. I have to resist the... You see, it's a temptation because like I said, that temporarily soothes my insecurity. It temporarily soothes my insecure child. Whereas something I've started to do recently... And it really, really works. Instead of temporarily soothing my insecure child, I try to be kind and compassionate to future me. And I find that really works.

• 28:30Blindboy Boatclub?

  So if I wanna be kind and compassionate to future me, then I view an award nomination realistically. This is a pat on the head for a job well done, for a piece of work. I'm not getting this award. A piece of work is getting this award. That's it. And I'm gonna have other pieces of work that don't get commissioned, that people don't like, and that'll be viewed as shit and a failure. Because failure is inevitable. That's what happens. And my pieces of work have nothing to do with my value as a human being. And if you wanna practice compassion for your future self, I find it incredibly useful. You start off simply. And what I mean by that is, most people struggle with smartphone use in bed.

• 29:14Blindboy Boatclub?

  Right? That's very common. We all get stuck on Instagram and TikTok when we're lying in bed and we should be going to sleep. You make the decision to go to bed nice and early. You feel great. Fucking hell, I'm in bed, early, wonderful. Can't wait to sleep. And then you whip out your phone. And now you're on TikTok. And now it's three in the morning. It's three in the fucking morning. And you're awake and you've done nothing but scroll through TikTok. You wake up the next day exhausted. You're cranky all day. You're not present. You're thinking negatively. And you feel like shit because of what you did the night before. So tonight, when you're saying to yourself,

• 29:59Blindboy Boatclub?

  "I actually really want to go to sleep tonight. I don't wanna scroll through TikTok or Instagram. I don't wanna be looking at my phone screen. I wanna go to bed and be rested." When that little temptation comes up, where you're like, "Fuck it, I'll just do five minutes. Just five minutes of TikTok. It'll be grand." Think of future you tomorrow. And say things to yourself like, "Jesus, this is really mean. Why am I doing this to that person?" They're not a bad person. And you're thinking about future you almost as a separate human being. They're not a bad person. They're a nice person. Why would I punish that person with sleep deprivation? That's really mean. Why would I do that to that person? They don't deserve that.

• 30:44Blindboy Boatclub?

  They deserve a good night's, a good night's sleep and to have rest and happiness and to be able to enjoy their day. Why am I doing that to this person? And if you can practise that little, that little thought experiment, that mind exercise, where you look at potential actions now as being mean, doing something mean and nasty to future you, you're not going to go near that phone. You're going to put it down and you're gonna, you're gonna go to sleep. And it's a very useful, that's a really useful exercise in, in self-compassion. This episode has turned into a phone call.

• 31:23Blindboy Boatclub?

  I'd actually planned on speaking about Christ, Christ's 40 days in the desert this week because it's, it's coming up to Lent. But anyway, look, I'm glad to be nominated for awards. I'm glad that the work was considered good enough to be nominated for awards. And it's not just me up for awards, it's an entire team of people who did wonderful work. And I would like to win these awards just for the practicality of it creating more opportunities to be creative. For one of the categories, you can vote if you like. Um, just go to my Instagram, Blind by Boat Club on Instagram. And at the top of my profile, there's saved stories just underneath my profile picture.

• 32:07Blindboy Boatclub?

  And one of these saved stories says, "Vote here." So if you click on that, you can actually vote. And what I will say about the vote is, so Did You Read About Ars Cenfogarty? And Blind by the Land of Slaves and Scholars, they're actually competing with each other for the same award, the People's Choice Award. So I would ask if you could vote for Did You Read About Ars Cenfogarty, please? Because what I really, really want to do is, I want to take my short stories and turn them into films and television. I do enjoy making documentaries, but I'd rather be behind the camera. I don't even like being on fucking camera, to be honest. I like writing and making podcasts. So please vote for Did You Read About Ars Cenfogarty?

• 32:52Blindboy Boatclub?

  And the Royal Television Society People's Choice Awards if you are voting. Let's have an Ocarina pause. This is another, another fucking phone call podcast because I've been up the walls with gigs, gigs and another very exciting project that I can't tell you about just yet, but you're gonna fucking love it when it's done. But I was up in Belfast all weekend, gigging and working, had a wonderful podcast in Belfast. Let's have a little Ocarina pause. I've got my large stone Ocarina, which makes a baritone sound, doesn't interrupt any dogs.

• 33:28Blindboy Boatclub?

  Sounds like a distant ship.

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  That was the Ocarina Pause. You would have heard an advert for some bullshit. Support for this podcast comes from you, the listener, via the Patreon page, patreon.com/theblindbypodcast.

• 37:13Blindboy Boatclub?

  If you enjoy this podcast, if it brings you mirth, merriment, entertainment, distraction, whatever has you listening to this podcast, please consider paying me for the work that I'm doing because this is my full-time job. This is how I earn a living. It's how I rent out this office. It's how I have the time to record and write this podcast. And it's why I turn up every single week, every single week to chat to you because I'm so grateful that the podcast exists and I'll never take that for granted. So all I'm looking for is the price of a pint or a cup of coffee once a month. That's it. But if you can't afford that, if you can't afford that, if you don't have the money, you can listen for free, listen to the podcast for free. Everybody gets the exact same podcast I get to earn a living.

• 37:56Blindboy Boatclub?

  Patreon.com forward slash the blind by podcast. And if you're using an iPhone and you're signing up to the Patreon for the first time, don't use the Patreon app on the iPhone because Apple are greedy bastards and they take 30%. So if you are signing up to Patreon for the first time, try and do it in a browser, not on an app. Upcoming gigs, Killarney, Killarney down in Kerry this Friday. I'm in the Aineck. Now that gig is sold out, but I was holding back about 30 tickets for the guest list. I'm now going to put those tickets out to sale because there was too many people who couldn't get tickets to the gig. So if you want to come

• 38:38Blindboy Boatclub?

  to Killarney on Friday, there's now a few tickets left. Next week, Thursday, the 13th of, are we March? 13th of March. We are in the Cork Opera House, the wonderful, wonderful Cork Opera House at the Cork Podcast Festival. I love the Cork Podcast Festival. Check it out. Then at the end of this month, I'm off to Australia and New Zealand. That whole tour is sold out. I can't fucking wait. I can't wait. I hope I get to go for a run in the Sydney Botanical Gardens, just by the Opera House.

• 39:13Blindboy Boatclub?

  I remember I did that. The last time I did a Life podcast in Australia was probably 2020. And I remember saying at the time that my, if I had a version of what heaven could be, it'd be going for a run, listening to music in the botanical gardens in Sydney. Hopefully I can do that this time. For Melbourne, loads and loads of my listeners have requested that I speak to a fella called Tyson Yunkaporta. Loads of people have said that me and him would have a good chat. So if anybody knows him personally, tell them I'm looking for him. Then I'm back on the 23rd of April, Limerick fucking concert hall sold out. Can't

• 39:56Blindboy Boatclub?

  believe that. And then June, my big tour of Scotland and England. I'm in Bristol, Cornwall, Sheffield, Manchester, Edinburgh, Glasgow, York, London, East Sussex, also known as Bexhill, and Norwich. And you can get those tickets on fain.co.uk forward slash blindbuy. And a lot of those gigs are setting out very, very quickly. And fuck it, I have a gig in Derry. I have a gig in Derry in September that I keep forgetting to promote. But if you're around Derry in September, I know it's six months away, come to my gig in Derry in September. I'm in the Millennium Theatre, wonderful venue. Last

• 40:37Blindboy Boatclub?

  week I did a podcast about Madeira cake. I spoke about how my mother, when I was a kid, Madeira cake was the choice of cake and how it used to frustrate me because it's such a plain austere cake. And my ma would say to me, we're getting Madeira cake because any other type of cake would be extravagant. And so many of you had the exact same experience. It wasn't just a fucking Irish thing. Americans were calling it pound cake. There was a different name for it in Australia. But Madeira cake appears to be ubiquitous. And it's the cake that your mother buys when she's pretending that she's not buying cake. And something

• 41:20Blindboy Boatclub?

  else people started bringing up with me was ginger nut biscuits, or ginger snaps, as they're known outside of Ireland. Ginger snaps are-

• 41:31Blindboy Boatclub?

  They're just one up from a digestive. We call them ginger nuts. It's not ginger bread, although it tastes like gingerbread, but they're round biscuits. They're quite hard. They're just sweet enough and they taste like ginger. And these were, these were the austere biscuit treats that my mother would buy. Cause you're not getting like a Mikado, which was an elite sweet biscuit, almost a cake, marshmallow and jam, profoundly tasty. You're not getting a fucking Mikado or a Viscount. They're not even fancy anymore, but when I was a kid, Viscounts, Jesus Christ, these were

• 42:12Blindboy Boatclub?

  mint chocolate biscuits, individually wrapped in file, once a year, that's it. So the sweet biscuit of choice was the ginger nut, or the ginger snap, as you might call it. The Madeira cake of the biscuit world. And because so many were bringing up ginger nuts to me, I wanted to look into the history of fucking ginger nuts. It's very, very interesting indeed. So to go to the roots of the ginger nut biscuit. It comes from medieval funeral traditions. So there used to be a thing called a funeral cake. And this was present in a lot of medieval European cultures. It was kind of half pagan, half Christian. When a person died,

• 42:59Blindboy Boatclub?

  their dead body would be laid out and people would make a bread or a cake, like the dough not baked yet. They'd get the dough of some bread or a cake and they'd put it on the chest of the corpse. And as the yeast in that bread would rise, people believed that the bread was rising with the sins, the sins of the dead person. So that if you let the bread rise on a corpse's chest when it's lying in wait before burial, all that person's sins are filling up, filling up this yeast. And then they'd bake it, but also, and this is medieval times.

• 43:44Blindboy Boatclub?

  Dead bodies were anointed, okay? And the anointing of a dead body was, embalming didn't exist. So some dead bodies were covered with oils with, with strong smelling spices to hide the smell of decomposition. And these, these funeral cakes that were rising on the chest of a corpse, that the yeast was rising, sometimes these cakes, they started to be flavoured with spices that were associated with anointing. So cloves were used, caraway seeds and ginger, lots and lots of ginger. Ginger was very popular in medieval Europe.

• 44:27Blindboy Boatclub?

  So now you've got this ginger flavoured cake, this funeral cake, rising on a corpse's chest, rising with, and absorbing the sins of that dead person into, into the fucking cake. And it's flavoured like ginger, then it's thrown into the oven and it's baked and this is the funeral cake. And it was presented at the wake for the dead person. But in England, England, very much Wales and parts of Ireland, some communities had a, an individual known as a sin eater, often an incredibly poor person in the village. And their job was to be a sin eater.

• 45:08Blindboy Boatclub?

  And what this meant was, this person would call around to the wake where the dead person lay. And the cake that had risen on that dead person's chest had absorbed all the sins. So the poor sin eater, who didn't have any money, would eat the cake full of that person's sins. So the sin eater was eating the sins of that person, this ginger flavoured cake. They're eating that person's sins and then absorbing the sins into themselves. So the person who's dead now gets to enter heaven with no sins, cause the poorest person

• 45:52Blindboy Boatclub?

  in the village is after eating all their fucking sins. And then once the sin eater was finished, and it's like, that's it now, I've eaten all the cake, yum yum, yeah, I can feel all their sins inside me, definitely I have their sins, then everyone at the wake.

• 46:08Blindboy Boatclub?

  Would like be overcome with this contemptuous hatred. This, they would contemptuously look down, they'd look down on this poor person. This poor person who was, who was willing to eat cake and absorb someone's sins. And then they'd kick the living shit out of the fucking poor sin eater. The sin eater would be forcibly removed from the wake, full of the dead person's sins. And then the bereaved party, the friends and family of the dead person, would spit at and shout and beat the sin eater and banish them. So that tradition of these ginger cakes that rise on the chest of a dead person and absorb all their sins.

• 46:54Blindboy Boatclub?

  Over the centuries, by the time you get to the Victorian period, you now have funeral biscuits, which are what we would now call ginger nuts, ginger snaps.

• 47:07Blindboy Boatclub?

  So there were these biscuits with a strong, sweet ginger taste that were hard to bite. And people at funerals made them into like little skulls. Or they might have Bible verses on them, or even an image of the person who died. And these Victorian funeral biscuits, they'd either get eaten by the mourners or they'd keep them as souvenirs from the funeral to remember the dead person. And those biscuits eventually became ginger nuts, ginger snaps. The hard ginger biscuit that you buy, that's a little bit sweet that you're gonna have with your tea. You can follow a thread to the early Middle Ages,

• 47:50Blindboy Boatclub?

  where there were cakes full of sins, leavened on the chest of a corpse and flavoured with the spices that you'd use to stop a corpse smelling. So I got a new form of respect for fucking, for ginger nuts or ginger snaps after that. Now, if you're listening to this podcast on the day it goes out, today is the, the, Wednesday, the 5th of March, it's Ash Wednesday, so today is Ash Wednesday. Now, you know, I'm, I'm not into religion, I'm not a religious person. Christianity was something that was done to me in school against my will. But also, you know, I love mythology and at the end of the day.

• 48:30Blindboy Boatclub?

  The Bible is a gigantic book of mythology written by human beings from the Iron Age. So I'm fascinated in that respect in the same way that I'd be fascinated by Greek mythology or Irish mythology. So today is Ash Wednesday, which means that Lent begins today. And when I was speaking there about that medieval practice of the sin eater, which was, it was a bit of an outlawed practice in Christianity. It was half pagan, half Christian. It wasn't sanctioned by the church. It was a bit too weird. Like, there's a poor fella in the village and he comes and eats a fucking cake on your dead man's chest to eat our sins.

• 49:13Blindboy Boatclub?

  And then presumably, when the sin eater, the sin eater who has his belly full every week when people die, that sin eater then, when he dies, he goes to hell, he's got everybody's sins. But that sin eater most likely comes from an Old Testament practice known as the scapegoat. So like two and a half thousand years ago, in the desert in the Middle East. What the people would do is they'd get two goats, two goats that are related, like brother and sister or whatever, or maybe twin goats. And they would kill one goat, they'd sacrifice this goat.

• 49:54Blindboy Boatclub?

  But then the goat that lived absorbed all the sins of the entire community. And then they would get this goat that's alive and they'd just send it off into the desert to wander. And that was the scapegoat. This goat that wanders in, the wilderness is hell effectively. This goat that has all the sins of the community wanders the hell desert. And in the desert in the Old Testament, in the wilderness, there's this, a demon, he's a fallen angel, he's a bit like Satan, but his name is Azazel. And Azazel, he was a fallen angel that gave humans forbidden knowledge.

• 50:37Blindboy Boatclub?

  So like Azazel was the one that showed humans how to, how to sin, basically, how to make weapons, how to commit adultery, how to steal, whatever the fuck. Azazel was the one that showed humans how to do this. And in some stories...

• 50:54Blindboy Boatclub?

  The scapegoat that's sent out into the desert becomes Azazel, becomes this goat-like devil. But anyway, the scapegoat, the scapegoat definitely inspired the sin eater. But most likely too, the Old Testament story of the scapegoat probably inspired the story of Christ. So today's Ash Wednesday, and Ash Wednesday is the beginning of Lent. And Lent is when it's, it's, it's the temptation of Christ. So Christ, like the scapegoat, fucks off into the desert. Christ had just been baptized by John the Baptist, right? And now that he'd been baptized, now he's gonna be tempted.

• 51:36Blindboy Boatclub?

  The Holy Spirit doesn't take him towards safety, but takes him out into the unsafe barren wilderness, the desert. Now, Christ is wandering, he's not eating, he's denying his, his physical body. All sources of stimulation and pleasure, food, drink, comfort, in order to achieve humility, to be free from desire, to be free from attachment, to abstain from, from wants, needs, ego, to strip himself down to nothing. So now Christ is walking the desert forty days and forty nights, right?

• 52:16Blindboy Boatclub?

  And he's freezing cold at the night time, he's roasting hot at the daytime, he's hungry, he's at his absolute weakest, he hasn't slept, he's fucked. And then when he's at his weakest in the desert, out pops your man, Azazel, the goat devil fellow. And he says, "Oh, it's Christ, is it? The fellow who can perform miracles, water into wine, loaves and fishes. All right, okay, I seen you walk in the desert here, no food, no sleep, nothing, starving." And then Azazel, the devil, he picked up a stone and said, "If you're really, if you're really the son of God, if you're as important as you say you are, turn these stones into bread."

• 53:00Blindboy Boatclub?

  And Christ said, "Yeah, I am fucking starving. I'd love some bread right now, and I could turn those stones into bread. I could do it in two seconds. Oh, it'd be so tasty, and I could eat all that lovely bread." But then he goes, "No, no, I'm going for something greater. I'm gonna abstain from the bread." No, I'm not doing it. And Christ kept on walking, meditating, not eating, going about the desert. And now Azazel, the goat devil fellow, was getting real pissed off. And he did some devil magic. And now, all of a sudden, they weren't in the desert anymore. They were at the top of a very tall tower above a city.

• 53:39Blindboy Boatclub?

  And Azazel says to Christ, if you're the son of God, then you can jump off this tower, down to the ground, and angels will come out of nowhere and they'll save you. And what's being tempted there now is, that's arrogance. That's human arrogance is what's being tempted. Thinking that you're brilliant, thinking that you're invincible, thinking that you're better than other people. The arrogance of, I'm the son of God, I can jump off this tall building and I can do whatever I want and the angels will save me. That's hubris, arrogance, cockiness. Thinking that you're better than other people rather than equal to other people. That's what's being tempted there.

• 54:20Blindboy Boatclub?

  So Christ says to Azazel, the goat devil, go fuck yourself, you prick. No, I'm not jumping. I want to wander the desert for forty days and forty nights and not eat and abstain and achieve humility. All right, that's what I'm doing. Now they're back in the desert. Azazel is really pissed off with Christ now. Nothing's working. The devil goes off. Azazel has a bit of a think and he comes back. And now he approaches with the greatest temptation of all. Christ is wandering the desert, very hungry. And then Azazel waves his hands or whatever. And then before Christ, the desert changes. And what's in front of him is this beautiful city.

• 55:04Blindboy Boatclub?

  Gorgeous buildings, all the riches you can imagine, all the food you can imagine, the most beautiful women he's ever seen, fucking everything that he could possibly want right there in this city. And Azazel says to him, you can have that. I'll give, I'll give you all of that right now. Every bit of it, all you gotta do is worship me. You can have all of that. Every pleasure you could ever want is yours. Just worship me. And Christ says, no, fuck off, I'm not interested. I'm, I'm here to wander the desert. I'm here to achieve spiritual atonement and humility. And then the angels came down, told the devil to fuck off. Azazel. And, and the angels gave Christ food and, and met his needs and he was happy.

• 55:49Blindboy Boatclub?

  And then, of course, at the end of that, that's when he was crucified. That's, he's the scapegoat. He's, he's the goat that's, that took humanity's sins and was sacrificed. That's why they call him the, the Lamb of God, the sacrificial Lamb of God. The story's just, it's based on that much earlier scapegoat story. And again, I reiterate, I'm not into religion, but I view that story there as brilliant mythology. Brilliant mythology that was written down by human beings that contains fuck tons of wisdom, that aligns with, with psychology. The devil there, that's, that's our, our, our weakness.

• 56:31Blindboy Boatclub?

  That's our desire, that's our insecurity, that's our pain, the first temptation. Just because you can turn stones into bread, doesn't mean you should. Turning stones into bread there is, it's giving into short-term gratification. I mentioned earlier, both, you're going to bed and then you have this short-term gratification of, fuck it, I'll just look at TikTok for five minutes. Ah, fuck it, yeah, go on. I don't tolerate the, the frustration. I give in to that immediate gratification. I look at TikTok, now I'm up to three in the morning. I feel like shit the next day, I'm tired and I'm self-flagellating.

• 57:14Blindboy Boatclub?

  I turned stones into bread because I could. I chose the path of least resistance, the easy way out. Choosing to not do that, that's emotional resilience. Choosing to, to not look at TikTok, choosing to not argue with a stranger online, choosing to not give in to a feeling of, of anger and say something mean to another person. Christ's first temptation there is about emotional maturity. Having the, the emotional maturity to notice the feeling of frustration, to tolerate that feeling of frustration because you want to be nice to your future self. The second temptation.

• 57:55Blindboy Boatclub?

  Azrael, or whatever his name is, takes him to the top of the building and says, "If you're the son of God, jump, angels are gonna catch ya." Again, it's all emotional maturity, it's humility, arrogance, insecurity. Nobody who's secure in themselves, who has strong self-esteem, thinks that they're better than other people. Someone who has a narcissistic view of themselves, someone who consistently compares themselves to other people, whether that's by saying, "I'm better than them," or "I'm not as good as that person," continually comparing, or being jealous, temporarily soothing the feeling of insecurity

• 58:37Blindboy Boatclub?

  by telling themselves that, "I'm fucking brilliant, I'm better than everybody else, I can do what I like." Being at the top of the tower and saying, "I can fucking jump off, jump off if I want, I'm special, I'm brilliant, I'm special, the angels will save me." Instead, you go, "No, I'm a human being, the exact same as everybody else, doesn't matter who the fuck I am, even though I'm high up, even though I'm at the top of the tower, up here at the top of the tower, looking down at everybody else." I mean, that's a metaphor for status right there. Even though I'm at the top, if I jump, I'm just a bag of flesh and bones, I'm a human being, the exact same as everybody else.

• 59:18Blindboy Boatclub?

  We're all equal when it comes to death, that's what the second temptation is, that's about humility. "I'm better than nobody else, nobody else is better than me, because all humans are equal, we all have intrinsic value, it's the exact same, and we're all just bags of flesh and bones." Life is uncertain, anything can happen, the only certainty we have is death, everyone's gonna die. And then the third temptation, the devil says, "There you go, Christ, there's a kingdom for ya, with food, drink, women, everything, everything you want, it's there, you've just gotta worship me." Are you willing to have nice things, if it means being cruel and mean to other people? Would you like a life?

• 59:58Blindboy Boatclub?

  With meaning in it, with meaning, where your happiness comes from simply just existing and being alive and that's enough? Or do you want to become a slave to possessions? Do you want to become a slave to greed, jealousy, gossip, backstabbing, taking from other people to increase what you have? Having a life full of things but devoid of meaning and humble happiness? Do you want the end result? The emptiness of the end result? Or would you like to work on the emotional maturity? To pursue the present moment and enjoy what's happening right now? The process? And that one there is the last temptation?

• 1:00:43Blindboy Boatclub?

  And then the angels come along and they're sound to him? And what that means to me is, like, I don't believe in fucking heaven and hell. Heaven exists. Heaven is the present moment. If we can be free from internal chatter, negative thoughts about the past, negative thoughts about the future, and instead just simply observe and notice and be right now in the present moment, that's heaven. The happiest moments of your life, you've been in the present. You've been in the present moment, in the here and now, enjoying whatever that was. Hell is when we're not in the present moment, we're not here, we're off in the wilderness

• 1:01:25Blindboy Boatclub?

  of our thoughts. Worrying about what might happen or ruminating about what already has happened. So that's, that there, that's the whole pint of Lent and Ash Wednesday and all that shit. Ramadan is similar. It's an opportunity to abstain, to test yourself and achieve humility. And I don't want to be accused of Christianity there. That's a, that's a brilliant story that was written by human beings who understood the human condition. And that's what that is. And you can go at that without needing any belief whatsoever. All right, dog bless, I'll catch you next week. In the meantime, genuflect to a swan, rub a cat, marvel at some earthworms.

• 1:02:28Speaker 06

  Hey, I'm Pablo Torre, host of Pablo Torre Finds Out. And I have chased down a lot of strange stories. But nothing quite like what's inside a McDonald's Quarter Pounder with cheese. 100% fresh beef, cooked right when you order it. Hand-topped onions, plus cheese and pickles in every bite. And right now, you can get one with medium fries and a drink for just $8. Only at McDonald's. For a limited time only, prices and participation may vary. Prices may be higher in Hawaii, Alaska, and California. And for delivery, fresh beef not available in Alaska and Hawaii. Offer not valid for delivery.

• 1:03:05Speaker 05

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