Giggling about apologies, dachshunds, and red witches

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• 1:35Speaker 02

  Sup, Giggler? Gary, fix your Wi-Fi. Manifest that shit. We can't be managed.

• 1:45Speaker 02

  I mean, the day just got away from me.

• 1:49Hannah Berner?

  I need to let you know.

• 1:52Hannah Berner?

  I just chugged a dirty chai latte. So, anything that's about to happen on this pod, I'm not responsible for. And then I'm gonna cool it off with a little Dunkin' refresher.

• 2:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 2:02Hannah Berner?

  That's my idea of a fun night. So, everyone lock in.

• 2:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, locked.

• 2:09Hannah Berner?

  First of all, I have to make an apology.

• 2:11Paige DeSorbo?

  We didn't even say, "Oh, we're going." Okay, I thought this was our preamble and you were like, "And now I'll start." Oh, we're in it. Giggler, sorry. This week is different. We're in it. Here we go.

• 2:21Hannah Berner?

  We've changed everything.

• 2:25Hannah Berner?

  Okay, so I posted my last video, a video with Lululemon. And I was making some jokes, some light jokes. And I made a mistake. And it was, it was a bad mistake, cuz you know when you don't know you made the mistake? And then people in the comments are like, "How did she not know this?" And I'm like, "That is so fucking true. I didn't know this." Do you know it's not pronounced dashhounds?

• 2:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Dashhounds?

• 2:48Hannah Berner?

  Apparently, it's daxins.

• 2:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Hold on.

• 2:52Hannah Berner?

  No. Sorry, cat people are so confused right now.

• 2:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Sorry, hold on.

• 2:59Paige DeSorbo?

  This, I feel like-

• 3:01Hannah Berner?

  This is a bummer, pay grade.

• 3:02Paige DeSorbo?

  This is, this is not a bit, but genuinely, can you spell it?

• 3:07Hannah Berner?

  Okay, so this is the thing. It's spelled D-A-S-C-H-O-U-N-D-S, along those lines, like close to that.

• 3:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, okay, okay.

• 3:16Hannah Berner?

  I already lost you after like the second letter that you were like, "Not important."

• 3:19Paige DeSorbo?

  I, my brain immediately went to Szechuan chicken.

• 3:26Hannah Berner?

  You know, I'm hungry.

• 3:27Paige DeSorbo?

  I immediately was at my favorite Chinese restaurant right next door. And I was like, "Kung Pao Chicken." Okay, that's what I'm getting for dinner.

• 3:35Hannah Berner?

  Side of duck sauce, thank you. So, I guess I've just been reading online, all the influencer girls, like, writing, like, "I got a dashhound." That's how I was reading. And then I was saying like, types of girls based on their Lululemon outfit. And I was like, "This girl-

• 3:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Bought a dashhound."

• 3:52Hannah Berner?

  Got adopted a dashhound before it was trendy. The comments were like, "You dumb bitch." It's pronounced daxin'. And I go, "Maybe we're not dumb, maybe..." This isn't-

• 4:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Where's the X?

• 4:04Hannah Berner?

  I thought Doxen was a whole separate breed.

• 4:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Same.

• 4:07Hannah Berner?

  I thought it was D.O.X.E.N.

• 4:10Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like there are people out here in the world saying the word Dash Hound.

• 4:14Hannah Berner?

  Isn't it? There was Connor and Cupid and Doxen and Blitzen.

• 4:20Paige DeSorbo?

  What do they have to do with this?

• 4:22Hannah Berner?

  I thought that was one of the Doxens.

• 4:27Hannah Berner?

  So, anyway, I'm still confused and I don't want to Google it because I feel like that'll get me more confused. But I thought Doxen and Dash Hound are two different.

• 4:36Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 4:36Hannah Berner?

  Daphne's behind you is like, I don't care about this kind of conversations about dogs. She's licking her own paw, being like, I'm over it. Paige is Googling it.

• 4:46Paige DeSorbo?

  This is a job. This is a job-

• 4:49Hannah Berner?

  For Chris, who's not here.

• 4:51Paige DeSorbo?

  This is a job for ChatGPT. This is above Google's pay grade.

• 4:55Hannah Berner?

  Mm-hmm.

• 4:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, actually, I spelt everything wrong, so- Chat's like, um, actually-

• 5:02Hannah Berner?

  This reminds me of me when I, um, tried to go through Dez's, um, Mandarin phone and I realized I don't understand anything on it.

• 5:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Dash Hound pronounced, yeah, Da- Doxen, the official breed of, they're a German dog. Nicknamed Wiener Dog, Sausage Dog.

• 5:18Hannah Berner?

  Okay, but bear with me. Dash Hound sounds like a real dog. What's a Dash Hound?

• 5:25Paige DeSorbo?

  So whether someone says Dash Hound, Doxen, or Doshen, they all mean the same iconic, long-bodied, short-legged little dog.

• 5:32Hannah Berner?

  Wait. She's been redeemed.

• 5:36Paige DeSorbo?

  So you can call it either.

• 5:38Hannah Berner?

  I take back my apology.

• 5:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 5:40Hannah Berner?

  I take it back.

• 5:42Paige DeSorbo?

  This is why you can't listen to the internet. It's lit- I'm like, I'm not apologizing for that. Fuck off.

• 5:46Hannah Berner?

  I take back my apology. Bleep it out, Grace.

• 5:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Anything I haven't seen, anything that I haven't apologized for means it's not fucking true and suck my dick, okay? That's why I haven't apologized for it because I don't know you bitches.

• 6:01Hannah Berner?

  But you know I'm quick for an apology. I'll apologize for anything. But this one, I ta- I take it back. I take it back.

• 6:08Paige DeSorbo?

  I'd rather double down, think about it again, and then come back to you.

• 6:12Hannah Berner?

  That's like that meme where mid-fight, you know you're wrong and you start trying to turn it.

• 6:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh my god, what a way to start the day.

• 6:20Hannah Berner?

  What a way to start the day. Now I'm feeling myself even more. My heart's pumping.

• 6:25Hannah Berner?

  My algorithm is full of AI cat podcasters.

• 6:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 6:32Hannah Berner?

  It is cracking me up and I have to stop sending it to people in my life because it's ruining my relationships. Because the cats are just shitting on dogs and their owners. And it's literally us. Like, the cat will be like...

• 6:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Our lives have been reduced to such small, like dope dopamine hits. I'm like, this is really good for my mental health right now if I watch this AI cat coming out of an ice cream machine.

• 6:56Hannah Berner?

  Not to quote Stacy Oricchio, Oricso, I'm not pronouncing it right. There's got to be more to life than chasing down every temporary high.

• 7:09Hannah Berner?

  Do you remember that song?

• 7:10Paige DeSorbo?

  No, but I agree with her.

• 7:13Hannah Berner?

  Everyone, check out that song. Um, how, how are you?

• 7:18Paige DeSorbo?

  What happened to hello? How are you?

• 7:23Paige DeSorbo?

  I just got back from being under the Tuscan sun.

• 7:26Hannah Berner?

  Oh yeah, you were in fucking Italy. You've been to Italy twice in like, three weeks.

• 7:32Paige DeSorbo?

  I just want to say that, to the gigglers that are in my DMs being like, why do you do this every time you go to Italy? You say you have no outfits and then you bust out like the craziest looks we've seen.

• 7:44Hannah Berner?

  Yep.

• 7:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Thank you so mu- so much. I like to set the bar low.

• 7:48Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 7:48Paige DeSorbo?

  So that your expectation, you have an even better day. But the girl saying that I need to chill on my spray tan?

• 7:56Hannah Berner?

  It's real, baby.

• 7:57Paige DeSorbo?

  That's all natural, honey. And I'm, I'm, I'm literally keeping it till November. I've literally oiled up all summer for this.

• 8:05Hannah Berner?

  It's called being Italian.

• 8:06Paige DeSorbo?

  It's called being Italian in Italy. And it's, it was one of, I mean, I feel like I've gone to a lot of crazy wedding weekends in my day. I feel like... If there's one thing I've experienced in my twenties and thirties, it's insane weddings that I'm like, this is crazy. This definitely was one of those. It was one of my oldest friends from New York. So I feel like once a year I have like this, it feels like a high school reunion. Cause it's just everyone I've ever met in New York City ever. And I'm like, oh, this is awkward. Okay. There were many times where I was like, actually, I think someone's yelling my name. I gotta go. I do wanna say, I didn't take one beta blocker. Oh my God. Sorry, sorry.

• 8:51Hannah Berner?

  Sorry.

• 8:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Sorry.

• 8:52Hannah Berner?

  Sorry.

• 8:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Sorry, I'm jumping around here. We will get back to the wedding. Did you see, did you see that the Wall Street Journal wrote in and?

• 9:04Hannah Berner?

  Wait, I'm not subscribed, so I couldn't read it.

• 9:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, so halfway through, the craziest part about the whole article, I literally go, when the fuck did I get a Wall Street Journal subscription?

• 9:18Hannah Berner?

  I'm wondering, how did you read it? You realize you've been paying $23 a month?

• 9:23Paige DeSorbo?

  I literally get to the end of the article and I'm like, sorry, who charged my card for this?

• 9:30Hannah Berner?

  I should not be allowed to read this kind of content.

• 9:33Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, how long have I had this?

• 9:35Hannah Berner?

  Someone messaged me, I was like, by the way, the Wall Street Journal wrote an article about you guys and beta blockers. And I go, that's none of my business, cause I'm not subscribed.

• 9:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Literally none of, none of our business. Um, honestly, I did see like some of the comments and they were like, oh, like the person that wrote it obviously hates Hannah and Paige. But, but I read the article and I was like, oh, I don't think so. The only thing that the headline, like on the Instagram, how I saw it was like a girl sent me like the actual Wall Street Journal Instagram. And it said, the pill that women are taking for everything from like very menial things to like your wedding day. And I was like, okay, please don't act like we're 1950s housewives, like comatosing ourselves because we get a little anxious, like.

• 10:20Hannah Berner?

  Also, let's not, let's not use the word menial and women together.

• 10:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, it just, I was.

• 10:25Hannah Berner?

  A woman's never done anything that's menial.

• 10:28Paige DeSorbo?

  It went through the whole thing of like.

• 10:30Hannah Berner?

  Also, what does menial mean?

• 10:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Like small, minute, like, oh. Sorry, I got really excited during something. I'm like, oh, actually, this one I know. But basically, the whole article was that how like our generation like takes medicine and like is it our beta blockers actually good for you? And like, will it actually have like a long-term effect of heart disease instead and blah, blah, blah, and whatever? Here's the thing, if you're getting your medical information from Paige Audy-Distorto, you got bigger problems, okay? You got way bigger shit going on.

• 11:03Hannah Berner?

  Also, it is non-addictive and it's not like, we're not, we're telling people, talk to your doctor first, but like-

• 11:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Obviously, like, I spoke to a doctor.

• 11:13Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 11:13Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, like a grade A professional. Here's what I will say, the reason that I chose to take beta blockers was because I don't like Xanax and I don't like anything that does like mess with my brain because I do feel like I would be someone that would like get addicted to Xanax.

• 11:32Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 11:33Paige DeSorbo?

  And like, I don't even, wouldn't even want to go down that road. And I take a beta blocker, I mean, maybe once a month now.

• 11:39Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 11:40Paige DeSorbo?

  But I still wholeheartedly stand by it. I think they're the best things ever.

• 11:44Hannah Berner?

  Well, for a lot of, I personally, when I have a physical reaction, I then get like more anxious and it like adds to the anxiety. You know when you have anxiety about your anxiety? So, beta blockers can like slow the physical reaction, so it kind of, and also, we started it when Paige was having panic attacks on tour. And I started it in support of her.

• 12:06Hannah Berner?

  In solidarity.

• 12:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Someone commented and was like, Paige is just out here taking drugs and from anyone. And I was like, okay, sorry, I'm a good time? Like, give me a goddamn break.

• 12:16Hannah Berner?

  It was her best friend and I sourced it from a makeup artist, so.

• 12:21Paige DeSorbo?

  If you've ever taken a drug from a makeup artist, you know that it's really good.

• 12:26Hannah Berner?

  Um, okay, so you're not taking, you're off your beta blockers in Tuscany.

• 12:31Paige DeSorbo?

  I literally like forgot to take them because I honestly was like being dramatic, but it was all my friends. So, I like actually wasn't nervous, but big crowds, obviously, it is scary. Um, but it was such a fun weekend. It was like how they did it was, everything was right on the property. So, like each day that we had like a wedding event, it was like right there.

• 12:52Hannah Berner?

  Amazing.

• 12:53Paige DeSorbo?

  So, it was like really nice.

• 12:54Hannah Berner?

  I hate when there's travel admin.

• 12:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, the weather was amazing. Um, their after-party.

• 13:01Paige DeSorbo?

  These are like New York City people. These are like born and raised New York City, just like vibes. So you like walk up to the after-party, they had like the door people like full on acting. Like it was an interactive play. And they had it like it was a real New York City club and they had like a rope and they had clipboards and headsets.

• 13:22Hannah Berner?

  Oh, you loved that.

• 13:24Paige DeSorbo?

  I loved it. They told everyone like they couldn't get in and we're just like, we like know the owner.

• 13:30Hannah Berner?

  We had to like beg to get in.

• 13:32Paige DeSorbo?

  No, they literally did a bit. Like it was a full bit.

• 13:35Hannah Berner?

  That is so fucking funny.

• 13:36Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it was so fun. They had McDonald's with their like wedding thing on it.

• 13:40Hannah Berner?

  I love that they went to Tuscany to eat McDonald's.

• 13:42Paige DeSorbo?

  No, they had so many like amazing details and if like any friend was gonna have like so many little details, it was gonna be like this couple.

• 13:51Hannah Berner?

  It looks spectacular.

• 13:52Paige DeSorbo?

  It was just the best. But I I'm sad because I feel like now my summer really is over.

• 13:57Hannah Berner?

  Summer's not over because we still have our Dunkin' refreshers.

• 14:00Paige DeSorbo?

  And I'm drinking the blueberry refresher. I tried it for the first time the other week and I was obsessed. And I add lemonade to mine because it just like adds a little extra kick, but I'm loving this one.

• 14:11Hannah Berner?

  You guys know I love the mango pineapple with green tea. I'm obsessed with it.

• 14:17Hannah Berner?

  So good. Not too sweet. I get a little less concentrate. Highly recommend. We were scheduled to record this pod.

• 14:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 14:26Hannah Berner?

  At like nine AM. And Paige texts last night and is like, Hannah, I'm too tired. I can't do nine. Can we do 11? And I'm like, anything for my baby. Like, you know I have your back. I realize I'm coming from California, so we're jet lagged different ways.

• 14:43Paige DeSorbo?

  We're in the opposite way.

• 14:45Hannah Berner?

  So you were actually probably awake early.

• 14:48Paige DeSorbo?

  I was awake. Well, I had fucked myself on the plane. I slept the whole plane ride. So then when I landed and I got home at like six o'clock, I'm wired. Like I'm up.

• 14:58Hannah Berner?

  So you couldn't fall asleep.

• 15:00Paige DeSorbo?

  So I couldn't fall asleep. So I wasn't asleep till like 1 AM.

• 15:03Hannah Berner?

  See, I'm being so dramatic because I was in California for three days and I'm like, guys, I'm so jealous.

• 15:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Sorry, like I can't.

• 15:12Hannah Berner?

  Mind you, um, where was I? I was in, no, I was in Vancouver.

• 15:18Hannah Berner?

  Sacramento.

• 15:19Paige DeSorbo?

  How was that?

• 15:20Hannah Berner?

  And Oakland.

• 15:22Paige DeSorbo?

  That is far. Vancouver is far as fuck.

• 15:26Hannah Berner?

  I was in Alaska.

• 15:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 15:27Hannah Berner?

  Which is almost in Russia. So I-

• 15:31Paige DeSorbo?

  You're a penguin. I mean, you're a literal penguin.

• 15:35Hannah Berner?

  So my, my stand-up tour's officially started and I'm like obsessed with the new show. Um, and the girls are wearing ties, like it's so cute, but I like walk in the green room and we don't remember any of-

• 15:50Paige DeSorbo?

  Anything.

• 15:50Hannah Berner?

  Any, anything, but I walk into this green room and I'm like, Paige had a panic attack there.

• 15:57Paige DeSorbo?

  You're like,

• 15:59Hannah Berner?

  I sense, I sense, I smell a beta blocker.

• 16:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, I have something else to say after this. Okay, keep going.

• 16:05Hannah Berner?

  No, but I walk-

• 16:05Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like I haven't talked to you in like-

• 16:07Hannah Berner?

  No, I know. I know. I miss you. I walk in and I'm like, I miss Paige. And like, I take everything, like, at the time I felt horrible that you were like struggling in some of these green rooms, but then I was like, missing it. I was like, I was, which Paige was here? And I was trying to like, say things that might make her feel better.

• 16:27Paige DeSorbo?

  I've grown up in so many green rooms. It's crazy.

• 16:30Hannah Berner?

  So it's this like weird feeling where like, stand-up is so fulfilling because I feel like so creative and I'm like building my hour. But then also it's like this emptiness of the green room where I'm like, I wish Paige was here.

• 16:43Paige DeSorbo?

  I know. I like, knowing that you're going on tour, I'm like, oh my God, she has to travel so much and do so many outfits and I like, don't envy that, but I miss, I miss it. Good.

• 16:54Hannah Berner?

  This, guys, the second tour was over. Paige was like, when can we go again? Um, it's like a different, it's a different level of mental illness.

• 17:00Paige DeSorbo?

  You just feel a different level of accomplishment.

• 17:04Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, you, you feel busy, like you're so tired, but you feel busy. Um, but I am announcing, my, this is why I love the gigglers. I announced like my first leg of the tour and obviously it's not all the states.

• 17:16Paige DeSorbo?

  Sorry, I keep like rubbing my eye because I have like Daphne's hair in it. Keep going. I'm listening.

• 17:22Hannah Berner?

  Get the hair out of your eye.

• 17:26Hannah Berner?

  Cat mom problems.

• 17:27Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it's crazy.

• 17:29Hannah Berner?

  So, the gigglers don't just say like, "Hey, when are you coming to Toronto?" They'll be like, "So you fucking hate Toronto." Like, they're always like so funny and sassy with it, and they're like, "Oh, cool, so you thought about, you know, Nashville, and then you thought, 'No, I don't want to go to Nashville.'" So... So today, I'm announcing the second leg of all the states that you guys are like, "Bitch, where the, why the fuck wouldn't you go to North Carolina?" Um, the Toronto girls were really mad at me, like, they were like, "How the fuck have you not done Toronto?" But I'm officially announcing...

• 18:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Toronto.

• 18:02Hannah Berner?

  I'm shooting my special in Toronto.

• 18:05Paige DeSorbo?

  When is that?

• 18:07Hannah Berner?

  February. So basically, I have all these months to like, prepare for the special.

• 18:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Is that the last show?

• 18:15Hannah Berner?

  I have like, a couple after.

• 18:17Paige DeSorbo?

  Because I was gonna say, maybe, just putting it out there, like, if you were to celebrate after filming that, we could go on like, a little ski vacation in Canada.

• 18:29Hannah Berner?

  Who's skiing?

• 18:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Dez.

• 18:33Paige DeSorbo?

  And you and I can go to the spa.

• 18:37Hannah Berner?

  Dez and his limp leg. Sorry, baby. I'm sorry, baby, if you're listening. Um, no, Dez is still recovering from his ACL tear.

• 18:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Sorry, I'm just trying to go to Whistler, but I don't even know where that is.

• 18:47Hannah Berner?

  Wait, I sprained my pinky in Whistler.

• 18:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, that's where you sprained your pinky?

• 18:51Hannah Berner?

  I'm, okay, but, one thing about us, is we do Rise Like the Phoenix.

• 18:56Paige DeSorbo?

  Is there any other way to be?

• 18:58Hannah Berner?

  Is there any other way? I'm like a ball. I bounce, I go down, I go right back up.

• 19:02Paige DeSorbo?

  They try and push you down, you get back up.

• 19:04Hannah Berner?

  So I will do skiing, but only with you. Because Dez gets too intense.

• 19:08Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, so then maybe it's this winter, we take a break.

• 19:12Hannah Berner?

  No, that's not our, that's not our style.

• 19:15Paige DeSorbo?

  It's not for us this winter, though, maybe, just...

• 19:18Hannah Berner?

  I'm down.

• 19:18Paige DeSorbo?

  We'll see, we'll see.

• 19:19Hannah Berner?

  We'll see, we'll see. What were you gonna say before you got attacked by Daphne's hair in your eyeball? And you blinded yourself?

• 19:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Anytime I go away, I get my period. It's like clockwork. It's the, it's one of the craziest things. And the only reason why I was excited for it was because I could feel my boobs getting bigger and I was like, my dresses need boobs this weekend. So like, ah, so whenever you want to come, absolutely rip it. Literally the day I get there, my period comes. I'm like, perfect. I have it all weekend, Sunday, and usually I'm like, after I froze my eggs, my period actually used to be like a full six to seven days. It kind of cut down to like a, a normal three to five.

• 20:05Hannah Berner?

  That's amazing.

• 20:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, lovely. Obsessed with it. So Sunday night is the, there was like that lunar eclipse where like the full moon and it was like, this like hasn't happened in however many years. So I'm on TikTok and I get a TikTok that says, if you have your period right now, you're a witch. You're, so what they call a red witch, which means if you're bleeding, all of your enemies are bleeding now too. And so I was like, oh my God, if my enemies are having a really horrible weekend, I want to know, can you please check in with me?

• 20:45Hannah Berner?

  Wait, I just envisioned you alone in your hotel room, like.

• 20:47Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I'm literally like.

• 20:52Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, I was so excited. I was getting over it.

• 20:55Hannah Berner?

  I know, I knew you're a witch. Like, we know. Like, tell me something I don't know.

• 21:01Paige DeSorbo?

  They were like, you're such a witch that actually you're like releasing things that didn't even have to do with you. It's generational. Like, you're helping your ancestors. That's how like witchy and in tune you are.

• 21:13Hannah Berner?

  I'm obsessed with that.

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• 22:30Hannah Berner?

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• 22:37Paige DeSorbo?

  Great use of encapsulated. I went whimsical. My jacket is the Tea Light Pearl Shine and it really does give Tea Light Pearl Shine.

• 22:46Hannah Berner?

  It gives it.

• 22:47Paige DeSorbo?

  It's honey.

• 22:48Hannah Berner?

  Honey. And mine's black.

• 22:51Paige DeSorbo?

  Because sometimes in the winter, you just see all the same colors. And I'm like, okay, but let me throw like a galosh on with my puffer coat and let me have it be fun colors.

• 23:01Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, because you like a coat to be part of the outfit.

• 23:04Paige DeSorbo?

  It's the outfit.

• 23:04Hannah Berner?

  Not ruining the outfit. But also I hate when you put on coats and then you're like stiff. You guys, I literally could swim in this.

• 23:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, it feels like it's light, but it's also extremely warm.

• 23:15Hannah Berner?

  It's not overpriced.

• 23:17Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 23:17Hannah Berner?

  And we love giving the gigglers a good deal. And it has space for layering. Like you don't feel Like it's tight, so I can layer a lot.

• 23:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Very important because there's nothing worse than like layering and you're stiff and then you're sweating and it's like a cold sweat and it's like, no. And I love that it has these things for your hands because I, I really use them with my thumbs. I love when jackets have this.

• 23:38Hannah Berner?

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• 26:41Hannah Berner?

  So I have a friend.

• 26:43Paige DeSorbo?

  I do.

• 26:44Hannah Berner?

  I don't. You go, and stop the pod. Not to brag, I have a friend, um, who like, I know like, kind of okay. But recently, we like, got into like, a good chat. And I find out, she just casually drops, she's like, you know, when I'm drunk, I like, can tune in. And I'm like, and stop right there.

• 27:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. Tune into what?

• 27:08Hannah Berner?

  I take back all the bad things I've said about you. What do you mean by this? And she's like, me and my aunt, like, can tap in if we, if we want to. And she's like, and I can only do it when I'm drunk. And I'm like, who are you tapping, tuning into? And she's like, when I get drunk.

• 27:29Hannah Berner?

  Like, I feel things. She's like, I feel on the, she said on the left side, I feel like it's either an older person, or a regular person, or a not a regular, a medium, whatever.

• 27:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, middle aged. A normal person, a wacky person.

• 27:48Hannah Berner?

  Or um, a kid. And then she like, will feel things. Like if someone like, like she was like, around someone and she felt like an older person and she felt like water. And she was like, hey, I feel like water in my ankles and I feel like an older person trying to talk to me. And they're like, my grandpa died in a boating accident.

• 28:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait Hannah, this, I feel like I should like do a one on one with someone that could help me. I think I could also do that if I honed in on it.

• 28:18Hannah Berner?

  So I Googled it for her and it basically says like, when you're drunk, it tunes out the noise, like you're less, you lose your inhibitions and you're just like, not overthinking anything. Cause she's so much, she's sober, she can't. But like, her friends would be like, get drunk, get drunk.

• 28:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 28:33Hannah Berner?

  But she says sometimes, she doesn't, she feels like she's making it up, cause it's just like coming to her and she's just saying it. And I told her that I watched a documentary about psychics, where the psychics all have a time where they go, I'm afraid I'm like making it up, but it's like, true. Cause it's like, you, cause they're seeing things and saying things. But I've actually had another friend, who when she's drunk, this is what she does. But like, the problem is, I was like, dude, this is incredible. And she's like, yeah, but I can't just be like, hammered all day giving people readings. It's not like sustainable.

• 29:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, did you see the girl that made the TikTok about Angel from um, Boston, that like, all the gigglers go to her now and she like said to one of the gigglers, like, I used to have like old creepy men that would come and now my, now any appointments are all like young girls and you guys have the best energy. Like you've changed my whole business.

• 29:30Hannah Berner?

  Wait, is Angel killing it for them?

• 29:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes, I was so happy for her.

• 29:34Hannah Berner?

  Okay, so Giggly Squad's a coven, 100% a coven. So DM me if you're another person that like, when you're drunk, you can like tune in.

• 29:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Or if you can, okay. I feel like I need to, and whoever DMs Hannah, if you could also coach me, let me know. Because I felt that way, this is gonna sound so crazy, when I got Daphne.

• 29:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Because when I got Daphne, I had a whole list of names in my phone. And when I like first held her, it wasn't like I thought of, oh, I think I'll name her Daphne. It was like it was told to me in my brain that like that was already her name. Like she's telling you what her name is, was the feeling I got. And I couldn't say that to anyone because they'd be like, you're a fucking freak.

• 30:21Hannah Berner?

  By the way, guys, we would never have these kinds of conversations in public. Like this is a private.

• 30:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Please don't write a Page Six article about this one.

• 30:29Hannah Berner?

  If this went out to the public, like people would be like, these girls lost their fucking mind. But I, as like, I have like coach mentality, I think, because like my grandpa was a coach. And um, I told her, I was like, we need to train this and like, this is a really special thing. And she's like, I know, but like, I have like another career I'm trying to do and da, da, da. But she also said, there are a lot of people that can tune in. You just have to like, it is something you have to work on. And I was Googling it for her, um, because people also said like meditation can help you get in that trance like state that you get when you're drunk. But it's crazy. And now I'm like, what if I get drunk with her and my grandpa doesn't come through and then I can't talk to her again?

• 31:13Paige DeSorbo?

  I had a psychic tell me, because I've like brought it up to multiple psychics, like how do I really like hone in on it? And I've had psychics be like, you don't, because you don't really like care that much about it right now. You're not going to really hone in on it until you have children because you want to be psychic with what they're doing. So that's when you'll really be able to be a psychic.

• 31:35Hannah Berner?

  All Italian moms are psychic.

• 31:37Paige DeSorbo?

  And I'm like, I'm already practicing, like, no, you're not going. I saw that it's not a good idea and you're not going.

• 31:45Hannah Berner?

  Speaking of moms, um, if you haven't watched the Catfish texting documentary, that's on you now. Like that's on you. Um, now when I get a mean comment, I go, Lenore has been acting quiet lately.

• 31:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, now when I get a mean comment, like, people will just like post that lady's picture and be like, this is who's commenting on your Instagram. And I'm like, it makes me feel so much better.

• 32:10Hannah Berner?

  That documentary actually helped, um, you understand like what trolling is, where it's just like, it's a mental illness and people who like are projecting all their shit onto people.

• 32:24Hannah Berner?

  And she was just harassing her daughter with horrible things, but like, that's what you can experience online if you put yourself out there.

• 32:31Paige DeSorbo?

  If you take a chance.

• 32:32Hannah Berner?

  If you chase your dream. So try to shift your perspective if you're out here chasing your dream in a public way. Not to, not to read the comments.

• 32:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, I have something I want to bring up.

• 32:44Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 32:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Since it's like back to school and fall and I, I truly do can't wait to get back into like a studio. I have like, I have a chair that I want to get for us. I think I'm done with the table. Anyway, that's not even what I was talking about.

• 32:56Hannah Berner?

  Oh, okay. Yes.

• 32:58Paige DeSorbo?

  So I was talking to one of my girlfriends and I was like, wow, my favorite thing when I was little for back to school was to go school supplies shopping. Like,

• 33:08Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 33:08Paige DeSorbo?

  You could have seen my type A then because I was so particular on like what color went with what and like, what was my vibe that year? What was my theme? Like, what was, like, my backpack had to go with, like, I was very crazy about it. My mom had to go into multiple stores, buy and return. It wasn't the vibe. We did that two years ago.

• 33:29Hannah Berner?

  Like florals for spring groundbreaking next door.

• 33:32Paige DeSorbo?

  I mean, I definitely was a monster. So I'm like talking to my girlfriend and I'm like, oh, when do you have to do like all the back to school shopping? And like, and she was like, oh no, like, it's not like that anymore. And I go, pardon? And she goes, you can just give the school like a hundred dollars and they get all the stuff.

• 33:49Hannah Berner?

  No.

• 33:50Paige DeSorbo?

  And then like, everyone has the same thing. And then like, there's no like back to school shopping. It's just like you pay dues and you get your stuff. And I go.

• 34:00Hannah Berner?

  Is there no individualism?

• 34:02Paige DeSorbo?

  In school supply shop, like, I was, I was like, but what if you don't want to do that?

• 34:07Hannah Berner?

  What if the color scheme is not like?

• 34:10Paige DeSorbo?

  I was like, what if they make science blue when that's clearly for math? Like, what, like?

• 34:17Hannah Berner?

  Science is green though, right?

• 34:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Yep. Well, science is green.

• 34:22Hannah Berner?

  One more thing about psychics, do you ever see a psychic be like, um, hey, tell me what color I'm thinking?

• 34:32Hannah Berner?

  And I think a color and then they say that color? That's happened to me like twice. So just everyone treat me differently.

• 34:39Paige DeSorbo?

  I got a massage this weekend in Tuscany.

• 34:43Hannah Berner?

  So unrelatable. She goes, you know, when you're in Tuscany getting a massage?

• 34:47Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, when you're in Tuscany and you're like, let me go to the spa.

• 34:48Hannah Berner?

  You're like, this massage won't hit unless I'm in Tuscany. Continue.

• 34:51Paige DeSorbo?

  And they did this little ritual thing where she had like different crystals and she said, pick two crystals that speak to you and that is the chakras that we need to work on. And you tell me. Now, prior to going into this massage, I have this gorgeous, cute little Italian girl say to me, I know who you are. And I go, you do? How do you know who I am? And she goes, I watch a lot of American TV. No one here knows who you are. I watch Summer House. And I'm like, I'm obsessed with you. Thank you so much. We're chatting, chatting, chatting. So then she does, she presents the crystals. And so I picked two of them, one. And so I picked them and she goes, they're so you. And I like couldn't wait to hear. I was like, well, what is it?

• 35:36Paige DeSorbo?

  One was like your throat. She was like, well, you talk a lot. And the other one was my lower back. And I was like, well, I'm carrying everything on my back. Like, you get it. And so we did like the massage based on that.

• 35:49Hannah Berner?

  I want to invent a yoga pant that has a really good band that supports your lower back. Like, you know, you see construction workers that wear those like,

• 36:01Hannah Berner?

  it's all for their lower back, but like it's very bulky and gross and very manly, like making it like so dramatic. Your lower back hurts, but sometimes you-

• 36:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, I have a tilted pelvis.

• 36:10Hannah Berner?

  And that makes sense. Is it tilting backward or do you know?

• 36:14Paige DeSorbo?

  My pelvis tilts back and I have to always like try and correct it. Because then my shoulders hurt. So my posture is bad. So I'm always tilting my pelvis forward.

• 36:26Hannah Berner?

  And we don't know what a pelvis is.

• 36:28Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm always trying to work with my pelvis.

• 36:30Hannah Berner?

  You were bringing up, oh yeah, the fall. I was obsessed, not with the colors of anything. This is so us. But I was obsessed with like the texture. Like I needed my pen to be an inky pen and not too inky, not too dry, but it needed to fly. It was very like-

• 36:45Paige DeSorbo?

  See, I wasn't a ballpoint girl. I was not a ballpoint girl. It was too messy, it would get on my hands.

• 36:52Hannah Berner?

  True, see, I wanted that. I wanted to leave feeling like I just bathed in ink.

• 36:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, you like put in the work, look at it.

• 37:00Hannah Berner?

  I wanted it to be Slide City, as Justin Bieber would say when I'm writing. Cause like the feel was really important to me.

• 37:07Paige DeSorbo?

  If you didn't have wounds at the end of the day, did you even go to school? Is how you felt. You were like, if I don't have something to show for it, I wasn't learning hard enough.

• 37:17Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, I wanted to get home, my mom was like, were you in a war? And I'm like, yes. Speaking of fall, I have a style question for you.

• 37:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 37:26Hannah Berner?

  With boots.

• 37:27Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 37:28Hannah Berner?

  Are we doing square toes? Or are we doing pointed toes?

• 37:35Paige DeSorbo?

  I would say, ugh.

• 37:38Hannah Berner?

  Cause I've seen some stuff online, the girls are trying to push the square, and as you know, I have nubby feet, so I was like, oh, I liked the point.

• 37:48Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, it's funny because I feel like when I was younger, every season, my mom would, I would always hear my mom be like, pointy toes out, square toes out. Like, that was such a thing in our house.

• 37:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Not our household, just between the two of us. And she was like, no, we're not doing pointy.

• 38:03Hannah Berner?

  Good morning!

• 38:09Hannah Berner?

  Are you in or are you out? That was, you know.

• 38:12Paige DeSorbo?

  So that's like a phrase that I feel like I've heard my whole life, like, pointy toe or square?

• 38:17Hannah Berner?

  I'll be the same.

• 38:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Honestly, I think both are in style. Like, I just love a fuck ass pointy, the pointiest toe ever and a big flare jean. Like, I just think it's so cunty.

• 38:30Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 38:30Paige DeSorbo?

  But I also think like there is something so artistic about like a square toe and like a really cool pair of pants.

• 38:37Hannah Berner?

  Okay, okay, so now I'm.

• 38:39Paige DeSorbo?

  So I think it's like what the outfit calls for. Like, if you're going like, if you're wearing like fake glasses, I feel like you're wearing square toe. You know, like, she's different, she's like, but if you're wearing like capris, you're wearing pointy.

• 38:52Hannah Berner?

  Okay, actually, that was super insightful. Did you watch the VMAs or see any of the VMAs' looks and stuff?

• 38:59Paige DeSorbo?

  I just saw some of the looks. I didn't really watch, I didn't, not really, I didn't watch it at all, but I did see some of the looks.

• 39:07Hannah Berner?

  What were your thoughts?

• 39:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Um.

• 39:10Hannah Berner?

  It's very experimental, the VMAs, like it's.

• 39:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I love the VMAs because you can do whatever you want and you can like really like make it your own. I will say, maybe it's just because I'm, we're older now. I just feel like when we were younger, the VMAs were a little bit more, I mean, we grew up in the era of Lady Gaga showed up in a meat dress.

• 39:31Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 39:32Paige DeSorbo?

  No one's doing that.

• 39:34Hannah Berner?

  Well, there's this whole concept of like, Gen Z's worried about being cringe, which I didn't know. I didn't know about this and I get all these TikToks being like, don't be afraid to be cringe.

• 39:45Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you want to know why? Because people are so much meaner now.

• 39:49Hannah Berner?

  Well, also, if you think about it, back then, you didn't look at a lot of photos of yourself. And I'm talking about like, like, pre-Facebook. Like, do you realize teenagers, like, occasionally you'd see a photo of yourself, but like, now our whole lives is looking at photos of ourselves, like, that's not meant to be. So I think, and then, yeah, like, everyone's producing videos of themselves. So I guess it is easy to start like, being mean girls about the content.

• 40:23Paige DeSorbo?

  I mean, the concept of like trolling hadn't like happened yet. People were more skeptical to like leave a mean comment because there were so few comments. And like, everything was traced back to you, like you were, people didn't have like fake Facebooks yet. Because it, you literally had to be attached to your school, you had to prove that was you. I just feel like there needs to be some type of regulation of like anonymous things.

• 40:50Hannah Berner?

  In some positivity of women supporting women, which we're trying to do. Um, can I say, a person I think I want to break through?

• 41:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Break through what?

• 41:02Hannah Berner?

  Like, pop culture, like VMAs.

• 41:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 41:06Hannah Berner?

  Rebecca Black.

• 41:08Paige DeSorbo?

  I don't know who that is.

• 41:11Hannah Berner?

  Okay, that's the first problem.

• 41:12Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay, sorry, I'm a ripe, I'm almost thirty-three.

• 41:16Hannah Berner?

  No, this is why you should know who she is. She's saying, "Friday, Friday."

• 41:21Paige DeSorbo?

  I do know her.

• 41:22Hannah Berner?

  Okay, so if you haven't checked her out, she has had, I don't want to say rebrand because it's called She Grew Up.

• 41:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 41:30Hannah Berner?

  She's giving like, you know how Addison Rae showed up to the VMAs with like the coolest like, um, perky breast bra thing that everyone was like, "That's weird, she's such a tryhard."

• 41:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 41:43Hannah Berner?

  Fake, whatever.

• 41:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, like the pointy.

• 41:45Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 41:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 41:46Hannah Berner?

  Which now like Miu Miu's doing in their latest campaign, "Not to be a fashion girl obsessed with you, Miu Miu." Um, Rebecca Black.

• 41:53Paige DeSorbo?

  In a world full of like caloric deficit. No, kill me, literally fucking kill me.

• 42:01Hannah Berner?

  No.

• 42:02Paige DeSorbo?

  A wise woman once said to me, she said, "If you want to have a little bit of a fat ass, you have to also have a little bit of a stomach."

• 42:10Hannah Berner?

  Did I say that?

• 42:10Paige DeSorbo?

  And that wise woman was a handle, a sea burner. And I think you said that to me about five to six years ago, and I said, "You know what? Thank you, thank you, because yeah, if you want all this junk in the back, you're gonna have to deal with a little bit of my stomach, so leave me be, leave me be."

• 42:32Hannah Berner?

  But with that said, like Rebecca Black is one of those people, I hate when people say you can't go somewhere because of like, what your path was to get there. Like Addison Rae's from Louisiana, obviously she wasn't doing cool indie films in, you know, the Lower East Side to like become where she is. And I hate when people are like, "No, you can't get there unless you've done this path." That's called gatekeeping. And it's like similar to me, like I was in reality TV to now stand up and people can judge like how you got there instead of how, where you are.

• 43:06Paige DeSorbo?

  It's kind of similar to how people hate nepo babies. It's like, well, what do you want them to do? Just like not exist? Like, do you want them to just be like, "You're right, my parents are famous, so I should just never do anything." Like, what do you want them to do?

• 43:18Hannah Berner?

  When you see like an amazing, like for example, Trinity Rodman is, this is like getting into sports, um, tea, but she's dating Ben Shelton, who's like the hottest American tennis guy right now. Trinity Rodman, hot, um, soccer girl, crushing it. Her dad's, her dad's Dennis Rodman. As she should be the most athletic girl. I want, that's what I want to see. I want to see her dunk on bitches, playing soccer. She comes from that elk. I, yeah, I don't like when nepo babies are just like, it actually was a disadvantage.

• 43:54Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, I think like one of my biggest pet peeves is, and I feel like I've been like this since I was little, is wasted potential. Like, I would see like my, like my other girlfriends who were like better at things that I wasn't good at, like athletics.

• 44:08Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 44:08Paige DeSorbo?

  And like they would just maybe like not do it or like not want to do it. And I, and I would just be like, what are you talking about? You're so good. Like, why would you not do this? I hate wasted potential. So when I see someone who has been born with a leg up already and doesn't take advantage of it, I'm like, what are you doing? So like when I see like trust fund kids who like their parents have the most money in the world and they literally have never had a job, I'm like, you're a waste. You're a waste. Like, do something. Start a charity.

• 44:41Hannah Berner?

  But it's also like, do you guys wish Addison Rae was a nepo baby? Would that make more sense for you, for her to become a pop star? If her parents were pop stars, like, how is the right way to get somewhere? Also, you don't know what you want to be. So it's like, sorry, I didn't know what I wanted to be. And I ended up on a reality show and then the universe was like, that's not what you're meant to do.

• 44:59Paige DeSorbo?

  If my parents were rich and famous, oh, you guys would, I would, I just, I don't even know. I would be insufferable.

• 45:08Hannah Berner?

  If my dad had bigger hands, I would be in the WNBA. But unfortunately, he does it, but he's very funny and very nice and has, and very brave.

• 45:17Paige DeSorbo?

  He's a really nice guy.

• 45:19Hannah Berner?

  He's athletic. He's athletic, but he's only about six feet. Okay. So anyway, I think Rebecca Black is really like fashion forward and cool. And people, for whatever reason, are like hesitant to get into it. But I think she might pop off, pop off soon. But yeah, people love an origin story to be, but like they like to control the origin story of people. Like, it has to be a certain kind of come up. Like, if you came up from like, you know, like being homeless, they're like, that's amazing. But if you're homeless and a TikToker, they're like, I don't know.

• 45:55Hannah Berner?

  They did TikToks. They did TikToks. They're not, we can't take them seriously.

• 45:59Paige DeSorbo?

  So true. Like, remember when the TikTokers got on SNL and people were like,

• 46:04Paige DeSorbo?

  livid. It's like, oh my god.

• 46:06Hannah Berner?

  Wait, I woke up and I thought me and you got kicked off of SNL.

• 46:11Paige DeSorbo?

  Literally. I was like, did I get fired also?

• 46:14Hannah Berner?

  Actually, let's be so honest, I'd be fired.

• 46:20Hannah Berner?

  That's my journey.

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• 48:58Hannah Berner?

  The Columbia Amaze Puff Jacket is so iconic because I feel so encapsulated and warm, but it's so light.

• 49:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Great use of encapsulated. I went whimsical. My jacket is the Tea Light Pearl Shine and it really does give Tea Light Pearl Shine. It's honey.

• 49:16Hannah Berner?

  Honey. And mine's black.

• 49:19Paige DeSorbo?

  Because sometimes in the winter, you just see all the same colors and I'm like, okay, but let me throw like a galosh on with my puffer coat and let me have it be fun colors.

• 49:29Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, because you like a coat to be part of the outfit, not ruining the outfit.

• 49:33Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 49:34Hannah Berner?

  But also I hate when you put on coats and then you're like stiff. You guys, I literally could swim in this.

• 49:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, it feels like it's light, but it's also extremely warm.

• 49:43Hannah Berner?

  It's not overpriced.

• 49:45Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 49:45Hannah Berner?

  And we love giving the Giggler's a good deal. And it has space for layering. Like you don't feel like it's tight, so I can layer a lot.

• 49:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Very important because there's nothing worse than like layering and you're stiff and then you're sweating and it's like a cold sweat and it's like, no. And I love that it has these things for your hands because I I really use them with my thumbs. I love when jackets have this.

• 50:06Hannah Berner?

  So cute. And they have all different length options for what you prefer, depending on how long your torso is. Visit Columbia.com to get your hands on an Amaze Puff Jacket.

• 50:17Paige DeSorbo?

  It's tough on cold, soft on you.

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• 50:50Hannah Berner?

  Also, with the fall upon us, you guys, I just want you to raise awareness. It is fantasy football time.

• 50:55Paige DeSorbo?

  Oh, yeah.

• 50:56Hannah Berner?

  Paige has-

• 50:57Paige DeSorbo?

  Shoot, last year I said I was gonna do it with you this year, and then I literally-

• 51:03Hannah Berner?

  I think next year we do it with the gigglers. We have to do it with the gigglers. Um, the day got away from you.

• 51:10Paige DeSorbo?

  The day got away from me with fantasy. I also don't care.

• 51:14Hannah Berner?

  Dez is like you. Dez doesn't support it. If I'll get, I'll be like in a bad mood and he's like, what's wrong? Thinking there's something serious. And I'm like, my fucking-

• 51:21Paige DeSorbo?

  It's just there's so many. It's Thursday, Friday, Saturday. It's, it's so much.

• 51:26Hannah Berner?

  It is just, it's distracting me from, um, real life. That's what it is.

• 51:33Paige DeSorbo?

  It's a lot. Um, wait, I was just gonna say some, oh, when you were talking about, what's her name?

• 51:38Hannah Berner?

  Rebecca Black.

• 51:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Rebecca Black. I'm obsessed with young Holly. Here's one thing we do have to say, though. Because like fame, I feel like is so different these days. Like, we grew up where it was very clear there were A, B, C lists. Now it's like kind of jumbled because there's like TikTokers, influencers, they're at these award shows, whatever. The circle of like young Hollywood that is still, I feel like very close knit, but even so, there's some influencers in there. Specifically Olivia Jade being seen with like Glenn Powell, but then being spotted-

• 52:14Hannah Berner?

  Jade is connected to A-list actor.

• 52:20Paige DeSorbo?

  Connected to A-list celebrities, but then she kinda popped off on her own for her YouTube channel, then obviously she had that whole scandal, the whole thing. She was seen out with Glenn Powell a couple of days ago, then seen with Jacob Elordi, who she previously was dating and they said they broke up. I feel like he saw that she was out with someone else and was like, no, no, no, you're not like going out with someone else. Then Emily Radikowski being seen out with Austin Butler, Zoe Kravitz being seen with Harry Styles, but she'd been linked to Austin Butler, like I'm just obsessed.

• 52:51Hannah Berner?

  I have a hot take.

• 52:53Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 52:53Hannah Berner?

  When I saw Harry Styles and Zoe Kravitz out together, I, heart of hearts, I was like, they've dated before. They haven't, but it's giving, I've seen this before, like.

• 53:09Paige DeSorbo?

  I have a feeling that like in 20 years, I'm gonna say, yeah, that Zoe Kravitz and Harry Styles' daughter, like she's so, like, think of her parents, they're so cool, like, I could see my daughter being obsessed with.

• 53:21Hannah Berner?

  Yes.

• 53:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Zoe Kravitz and Harry Styles' daughter.

• 53:24Hannah Berner?

  But this is the thing, I've, it's like a formula where I'm like, I swear they've dated before, I've seen this before. They haven't, but it's like, some, it moves around like that. But again, it's kind of like, it's kinda like high school where it's like, oh, like, yeah, the cool girl was done dating him.

• 53:42Paige DeSorbo?

  It's like a boarding school, it's a boarding school.

• 53:44Hannah Berner?

  It's a boarding school, like, and that's how they like make each other jealous is by going to be seen on like, a page six thing. Um, but yeah, I was, I guess it was Emily Radikowski that was with, I don't know why I tried to say her full name, Emrata.

• 53:59Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 54:00Hannah Berner?

  Who was with Harry that I was getting confused with.

• 54:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Yes.

• 54:04Hannah Berner?

  Um, but I just swore, I was like, this is an AI couple, I've seen it before. Speaking of AI.

• 54:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 54:11Hannah Berner?

  Japan is making AI robot pets.

• 54:17Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 54:19Hannah Berner?

  And this is my thing, they're not gonna have an aura. They're not gonna have a colored aura, but they're saying that you can like, you can connect to it and you can train it and they could like-

• 54:28Paige DeSorbo?

  No, that's so stupid.

• 54:29Hannah Berner?

  There's, there's a ton of cats and dogs that need to be adopted, yeah.

• 54:34Paige DeSorbo?

  No, I don't need, no. Absolutely not. I don't need a-

• 54:39Hannah Berner?

  You would've laughed so hard, um, I feel like we haven't seen each other in so long, because I've like seen other people. I was talking, I was talking to this guy, and I asked him what he did. Um, we were doing like, I was doing stand-up.

• 54:54Paige DeSorbo?

  They get mad when you do that.

• 54:55Hannah Berner?

  Crowd work, they got mad.

• 54:56Paige DeSorbo?

  They get real mad when you do that.

• 54:58Hannah Berner?

  So he goes, "Yeah, I'm in apparel." And I was like, "So you're in fashion?" And he was like, "No, I'm in apparel." And I go, "You're in fashion? Say what apparel? That's men trying not to be gay."

• 55:11Paige DeSorbo?

  What kind of apparel?

• 55:13Hannah Berner?

  And he was like, "Sweaters." And I'm like, "You're in fashion!"

• 55:19Paige DeSorbo?

  There's literally a whole Devil Wears Prada scene, dedicated to picking out sweaters. You're in fashion.

• 55:27Hannah Berner?

  You're in fashion? And then,

• 55:32Hannah Berner?

  I was talking to a girl who said she was a DJ. And I'm like obsessed with female DJs, DJ, DJ-

• 55:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Disc jockeys.

• 55:40Hannah Berner?

  Disc jockeys.

• 55:43Hannah Berner?

  I'm DJ Dashound.

• 55:44Paige DeSorbo?

  Isn't it crazy that that's what DJ sounds, that that's what DJ stands for, disc jockey?

• 55:48Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, that's crazy.

• 55:49Paige DeSorbo?

  Like, what? Chill out. Literally calm the fuck down.

• 55:53Hannah Berner?

  It's giving like, it's not music, it's a sport.

• 55:58Paige DeSorbo?

  It's giving a little boogie, like, I don't know.

• 56:00Hannah Berner?

  Did you hear what I said? I'm DJ, I'm DJ Dashound.

• 56:02Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I think that actually.

• 56:03Hannah Berner?

  So, I was-

• 56:05Paige DeSorbo?

  But like, late night, people call you DJ Dachshund.

• 56:10Hannah Berner?

  Once I have a dirty chai latte, I'm DJ Dachshund.

• 56:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Like you start your set as DJ Dash Hound and then it gets like

• 56:20Paige DeSorbo?

  DJ Dox.

• 56:21Hannah Berner?

  When the beat drops DJ Dox.

• 56:26Hannah Berner?

  So I was thinking about like, men just shouldn't be DJs. Cause tell me, tell me if I'm wrong, tell me if I'm wrong. Have you ever been in a car?

• 56:38Hannah Berner?

  And told a man to take the aux?

• 56:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 56:43Hannah Berner?

  Were they straight?

• 56:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah. Well, he, and you want to know what? It has nothing to do with them, classic, and everything to do with me.

• 56:51Hannah Berner?

  Oh, cause you were like, make them feel like they're in control?

• 56:54Paige DeSorbo?

  No, it's more like, I have, I don't care. And I like, I don't want the pressure.

• 57:01Hannah Berner?

  When you care, and you're with like a bunch of guys and girls, and you want the vibes to be right.

• 57:07Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 57:08Hannah Berner?

  And you want the girls to like, feel good. You give it to a girl.

• 57:16Paige DeSorbo?

  I go play this, all the girls will come in.

• 57:18Hannah Berner?

  On Spotify, my angry woman playlist is popping. I'm not gonna call myself a DJ, but I'm not not a DJ for putting together a playlist. Um, okay, I guess there are some guys that like will take the aux, but they always have to be like, have you heard this one? Have you heard this band?

• 57:34Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 57:34Hannah Berner?

  And you have to be like, no, let me listen. And then you like, listen to it, and you're like, no, that was really good. And they're like, you're really cool. I like you.

• 57:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Do you want to hear something really embarrassing?

• 57:43Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 57:44Paige DeSorbo?

  You know, like my running list of things I want in a guy that I've had since I was like 21?

• 57:48Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 57:49Paige DeSorbo?

  I know for a fact, even though I haven't looked at that list, I feel like honestly, probably in like two years. I know for a fact that on that list is someone who shows me cool, new music.

• 58:03Hannah Berner?

  You were stunted at 16.

• 58:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Honestly, one of the reasons I got off reality TV. I was like, I'm not emotionally growing.

• 58:14Hannah Berner?

  No, you're really not. They don't factor into your character emotional growth on reality TV. They want you to like change what you're doing, but not actually learn from anything.

• 58:25Paige DeSorbo?

  Truly, I was like, guys, I have to evolve. They were like, no. Keep dating horrible men and show us. I'm like, I can't.

• 58:32Hannah Berner?

  Dez shows me like movies from the eighties. Or you know how like you'll see an actor and they're just famous. You don't know what they're famous for. Like you're like, oh, Jack Nicholson. He's famous. What was his movie that made him? Dez will be like, you gotta watch this. And I'm like, oh my God, that's how everyone.

• 58:48Paige DeSorbo?

  Wait, but that is one way I love feeling better than people. I'm like, you didn't see their breakout role? You don't know what their breakout role is?

• 58:56Hannah Berner?

  See, I'm that person that feels, I, oh my God. Did you see that movie? What do you say when you don't see the movie? You could go two ways. You could lie and be like, yeah, I saw it. And it kind of shuts them up. But then potentially they'll be like, what was your favorite scene? Which is a crazy thing to ask.

• 59:11Paige DeSorbo?

  I tell the truth and I'm just like, no, never seen it. Like, oh my God, gotta add it to my list, I guess. Because then it gets them talking and then I can shut the fuck up and figure out how to get away.

• 59:22Hannah Berner?

  See, I feel like it depends on the person. Like sometimes I don't want them to keep talking. And they'll be like, have you seen this? And I'm like, oh my God, yeah. But if, yeah, because if I say no, then they'll be like, what? You have a, oh, where?

• 59:34Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like I do it all the time with Bradley Cooper. I'm like, do you even know? His first movie and like really what made him a breakout star?

• 59:42Hannah Berner?

  What was it?

• 59:44Paige DeSorbo?

  His first movie was Wedding Crashers, but The Hangover was his like breakout. Was where he was like the star.

• 59:50Hannah Berner?

  It's so interesting how his career evolved. Going back to when I said how people like grow. If some people start in comedies, people will be like, they can't act seriously.

• 1:00:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like you get typecasted.

• 1:00:05Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, where it's like, okay, just because they got in that way, arguably they're more talented because they could do funny and serious. Like Adam Sandler, when he did Uncut Gems, people were like, it's fucking amazing. This is crazy that he can act like a stressed out Jewish guy. And I'm like.

• 1:00:22Paige DeSorbo?

  That is him at his core.

• 1:00:23Hannah Berner?

  He can, of course he can do that. Anyway.

• 1:00:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Whenever I think of people being typecast, I always think of the Harry Potter people.

• 1:00:32Hannah Berner?

  Wow.

• 1:00:32Paige DeSorbo?

  Because they know, they, I feel like they were very vocal about like not wanting to get typecast. And then they literally, I feel like.

• 1:00:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Didn't, like, you don't remember, you don't, you couldn't name something off the top of your head. That was like another really big role for them. That's not Harry Potter. But I also am like, how sick though. That's how you're known. That's like.

• 1:00:54Hannah Berner?

  Yeah. Well, it's like musicians that get, have the biggest song ever. And then they start to hate that song because it's the only song they sing. But Emma Watson did do Belle in.

• 1:01:06Paige DeSorbo?

  Emma Watson is the only one that I would say.

• 1:01:09Hannah Berner?

  Yes, she's done some.

• 1:01:10Paige DeSorbo?

  Went on to do the most.

• 1:01:13Hannah Berner?

  I want to see more stuff from her, but also I like.

• 1:01:16Paige DeSorbo?

  And I'm talking like the three of them, not like.

• 1:01:17Hannah Berner?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:18Paige DeSorbo?

  Like obviously.

• 1:01:20Hannah Berner?

  Draco Malfoy, I think I've seen around town.

• 1:01:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Actors in that Maggie Smith is in that, like, you know.

• 1:01:25Hannah Berner?

  I also feel bad whenever I say like, oh, I want Rihanna to come up with that. I realize like, let women rest.

• 1:01:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Let women rest.

• 1:01:33Hannah Berner?

  Like, Emma Watson, do more rest.

• 1:01:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Let her rest. I'm never someone that's like, when is Rihanna putting music out? Let her, let her sit and chill.

• 1:01:41Hannah Berner?

  A hundred percent. Um, I also have one other story from this weekend. I flew into Sacramento. I haven't been to Sacramento in forever, maybe. Oh, with you, I, I was. But I walk into the hotel and I see a bunch of like cool dressed dudes. And I'm like, something's happening here.

• 1:02:03Paige DeSorbo?

  Do the police know about this?

• 1:02:06Hannah Berner?

  No, but like, they were like, like good sneakers.

• 1:02:09Paige DeSorbo?

  All the men are wearing watches. That's not a good sign.

• 1:02:13Hannah Berner?

  I'm like, something's happening. But there was like one girl with them. So of course I'm like, are you okay? I'm just kidding. There's one girl. And I'm, I was immediately interested, like, who are these guys? Corner of my eye, I'm like, that's Taiga.

• 1:02:28Paige DeSorbo?

  Okay.

• 1:02:30Hannah Berner?

  If you don't know what Taiga is.

• 1:02:31Paige DeSorbo?

  Read a book.

• 1:02:32Hannah Berner?

  Most, most famously Kylie Jenner's ex.

• 1:02:35Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:35Hannah Berner?

  Um, incredible musician. So I get in the elevator and I look like shit, like I just came from the airport. And the girl looks over to me and was like, hey, I love your podcast.

• 1:02:46Hannah Berner?

  So I'm, and I'm, whenever I notice someone who's famous, I like can't acknowledge them. Like I'll acknowledge everyone else but them, because I feel like I'm being like polite, but but then I realized like you're kind of being rude that you're ignoring them. But I was like, oh my god, thank you. And she's like, why are you here? And this is just a quick elevator ride and I'm, and everyone's listening, so it's kind of awkward. And these guys are like cool. And I was like, oh, like I have a show around the corner. What are you, what are you up to? And she's like, oh, we have a show too. I'm like, cool. And they're like, we're here for Lil Wayne. Now, when I tell you guys, I don't get excited about a lot of things.

• 1:03:22Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:24Hannah Berner?

  A vocal gasp came, I go, huh! Like Lil Wayne raised me. Lil Rain got, Lil Wayne got me through my hardest tennis practices.

• 1:03:36Hannah Berner?

  Lil Wayne brought me up when I was down, when I was crying on the bedroom floor.

• 1:03:42Paige DeSorbo?

  And if you- He spent there for everything.

• 1:03:45Hannah Berner?

  If somehow it hasn't crossed your desk, like, like his lyrics, his, he'd do like, he'd do like rock. He would do hip hop. He could do anything. He's-

• 1:03:54Paige DeSorbo?

  He's different.

• 1:03:55Hannah Berner?

  I actually got, huh! And she sees my reaction. And she's like, do you want to come tonight? So like I had a show and then he was obviously gonna, he's performing later like a couple blocks. And I was like, the elevator door is opening. And I just look at her and like, I don't even know if she knows my name. And I just go, yes, uh, DM me.

• 1:04:14Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:15Hannah Berner?

  So the whole rest of the day, I'm checking my DMs.

• 1:04:18Paige DeSorbo?

  You're like waiting for this DM?

• 1:04:20Hannah Berner?

  No DM.

• 1:04:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Nothing.

• 1:04:22Hannah Berner?

  Silence. So then I start the show and I'm like, hey guys, I know Lil Wayne has a concert tonight too. This is gonna be very similar.

• 1:04:32Hannah Berner?

  But I just have to say, I think I have to make my way. Lil Wayne is on tour.

• 1:04:36Paige DeSorbo?

  I mean, you're both performers. You're both performing your craft.

• 1:04:40Hannah Berner?

  If he needs an opener.

• 1:04:42Paige DeSorbo?

  Right.

• 1:04:44Hannah Berner?

  If-

• 1:04:44Paige DeSorbo?

  I feel like he would be a rapper that would have like comedians open for him.

• 1:04:49Hannah Berner?

  Yeah, or at least like, this is one thing though, I feel like musicians have like groupies, like people hanging around. Where like, I show up to a venue, they're like, is there anyone with you? And I'm like, no, thanks for reminding me.

• 1:05:01Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like I feel like in high school, my friends were always trying to hang out with like third eye blind or something. I'm like, guys, what are we doing? Like, we're 16. Like, where are we trying to get on this bus?

• 1:05:12Hannah Berner?

  I feel like the gigglers are like, Hannah needs rest. Like, the gigglers don't even ask for me to go out with them anymore. Um, so anyway, I almost performed with Lil Wayne this weekend.

• 1:05:21Paige DeSorbo?

  Speaking of going out, this weekend was some of my best Irish exiting I've ever done.

• 1:05:26Hannah Berner?

  Can you give the strategies to the gigglers?

• 1:05:29Paige DeSorbo?

  It's just when you feel that overwhelming feeling, I, when I feel that feeling of like, I could go, I mentally have 35 seconds to get out.

• 1:05:39Hannah Berner?

  You have 30 minutes?

• 1:05:41Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, gotta go.

• 1:05:42Hannah Berner?

  Do you make eye contact?

• 1:05:44Paige DeSorbo?

  No.

• 1:05:45Hannah Berner?

  See, that's where I fuck up.

• 1:05:47Paige DeSorbo?

  I say nothing to no one.

• 1:05:49Hannah Berner?

  Someone told me that I'm like, very warm and approachable, and I think tha- that's why I have-

• 1:05:54Paige DeSorbo?

  That's your downfall.

• 1:05:55Hannah Berner?

  That's my downfall in this life.

• 1:05:56Paige DeSorbo?

  And that's your problem right there. That's your problem right there. That is-

• 1:06:01Hannah Berner?

  If there's an Uber driver, he's like, she wants to talk. Do Uber drivers talk to you?

• 1:06:10Hannah Berner?

  See, it's the energy you give off. I have to give more like sour energy.

• 1:06:15Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, I think it's my fa- I, I think it's my face, because I actually met a lot of people this weekend, a lot of moms, and this is such a mom thing to say. I met a lot of moms that said, wow, you're just as pretty on the inside. And I was like, oh, that is so nice, thank you. So I think it is my face, because like, if you do come up to me, like, I am gonna be nice, but like, think twice.

• 1:06:41Paige DeSorbo?

  Do I really want to be here? And do you want to be here?

• 1:06:44Hannah Berner?

  See, I think I have kind eyes, but I also-

• 1:06:46Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, you do.

• 1:06:47Hannah Berner?

  People come up to me, since I'm like, 21, people will come up to me for directions. But then I, I was in San Francisco, and you're, are you familiar with Waymos?

• 1:06:58Paige DeSorbo?

  I am familiar, yes.

• 1:07:00Hannah Berner?

  So they're self-driving cars, which, where were you when I was taking my driver's license?

• 1:07:05Paige DeSorbo?

  Right, right.

• 1:07:06Hannah Berner?

  But at first I was like freaked out by them, but then someone told me like, when they drive in a Waymo, in the passenger seat, like- At night sometimes, I think it's, girls feel weird sometimes with an Uber driver late at night. You've had weird experiences. When you get in a Waymo, you're at peace, you can rock out to whatever music and

• 1:07:26Paige DeSorbo?

  Isn't that so sad?

• 1:07:28Hannah Berner?

  I know, but I'm actually like, now I'm leaning pro Waymo, cuz I'm like, the girls feel safe. And they said also, like, you rea- they said, you realize how bad human drivers are when you're in a Waymo? Like, every stop is like, super peaceful.

• 1:07:43Paige DeSorbo?

  Well, we'll never get them here.

• 1:07:46Hannah Berner?

  Why is it?

• 1:07:47Paige DeSorbo?

  Because New York City is just way too hard to navigate with like, traffic and just like, we got

• 1:07:54Hannah Berner?

  I told you, I was, when I was driving with Grace in like, midtown, I was like, on my phone, obviously not paying attention to the driving, even though I had a test coming up. And I realized like, we hadn't moved in like, twenty minutes. And I look up and I realize she just hasn't taken the turn yet. And I'm like, bulldoze these people. Get ahead, you, like, if you don't go, the, the crowd just goes. Like, they're like, kill fifty of us? No, you won't. And I'm like, you gotta push, you gotta be like, aggressive in New York to get moving.

• 1:08:23Paige DeSorbo?

  Being a woman is that there are so many times during the day that you have to think about your safety, that like, a guy just like, never has to think about it.

• 1:08:31Hannah Berner?

  No.

• 1:08:32Paige DeSorbo?

  And I saw a thing that it was like, oh, Uber's now offering, like, you can pick a female driver. And in my head

• 1:08:39Hannah Berner?

  Like a gyno?

• 1:08:40Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like, you can pick, like, have a girl be your driver. And I'm most nervous, cuz like, I don't stay out the way I used to in my twenties, where like, I would be coming home at like, four AM, which, thinking about it now, uh, oh my god, the amount of times I could have been taken then. But now, I feel like, the, like, if I'm up super early to go to the airport at like, four thirty or five o'clock, is when I'm most nervous to get in an Uber. I don't know why. But like I saw the thing where it was like, you can pick a girl. And my stomach sank, cuz I was like, girls also get you into sex trafficking though. Like if any, like they can also like buddy up to you. And, and then be the one that leads you to sex trafficking.

• 1:09:23Paige DeSorbo?

  So like, yeah, I love that they're like trying to come up with solutions to men just being, like they know that the men are automatically gonna do something fucked up to you. But it's like, oh, you can also have a girl. But now we're at the point where we're like, how about no humans? How about none of them?

• 1:09:38Hannah Berner?

  I, I love how they offered you a girl and you go, something's up. Cuz you know who made that decision? A man is in charge of Uber. So I don't trust the decision-making process in this.

• 1:09:47Paige DeSorbo?

  I'm like, I don't know if she wants to be doing this.

• 1:09:50Hannah Berner?

  Um, but my number one thing with Waymo is I realize no one's gonna talk to you. And it could be a super peaceful drive.

• 1:09:59Paige DeSorbo?

  What if you have a problem? Like, is there a customer service? What if he, what if it, the car just stops?

• 1:10:06Hannah Berner?

  I, I actually have no idea. I've never driven in a Waymo.

• 1:10:09Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah, like what is the, what is the like?

• 1:10:13Hannah Berner?

  So I, I was like, what if you do get in an accident? And someone was like, if someone gets in an accident with Waymo, like, that's on you, baby. Like, you're a bad driver, is what they told me. I'm just repeating what people told me. I'm probably gonna get messages, people, people being like, Waymo's really bad for things. And I'll, I'll apologize in the next episode.

• 1:10:30Paige DeSorbo?

  Waymo's definitely really probably bad for the environment. Right?

• 1:10:34Hannah Berner?

  I don't know if they're electric or not. Anyway, we've, we've lost the fucking plot. Um, thank you for giggling with us. I'm announcing my new tour dates. All the new places and then next, this weekend I'm gonna be in, okay. It's not Norfolk, it's Norfolk, apparently. Norfolk, Virginia.

• 1:10:54Paige DeSorbo?

  No, Norfolk, Virginia.

• 1:10:56Hannah Berner?

  I think it's Norfolk.

• 1:10:58Paige DeSorbo?

  It's not fuck. I feel like I've actually been trapped in Norfolk, Virginia before because my plane didn't wanna take off. And I actually spent the night one time in Norfolk, Virginia.

• 1:11:07Hannah Berner?

  Anyway, I'll see you guys there. Um, Paige, Daphne came out with like the cutest dress.

• 1:11:13Paige DeSorbo?

  Daphne came out with the cutest dress and we're actually doing our fall campaign this weekend. My mom and dad are coming in so sweet. Like, we're going on location. I feel like a real adult.

• 1:11:23Hannah Berner?

  Where are you going?

• 1:11:24Paige DeSorbo?

  We're going upstate to this like hotel. I was like looking for all these hotels upstate that had like a certain vibe.

• 1:11:31Paige DeSorbo?

  And then I found this one and it's just gonna be so cute. I'm so excited.

• 1:11:35Hannah Berner?

  I'm obsessed. I love upstate in the fall. It's the best thing ever.

• 1:11:39Paige DeSorbo?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:40Hannah Berner?

  Everyone have an amazing week. We love you. Good night.

• 1:11:43Paige DeSorbo?

  See ya.

• 1:11:45Hannah Berner?

  We couldn't do this one without Dunkin. Thank you for fueling the fun.

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