Israel & Hamas Meeting, Epstein's Blackmail Network CONFIRMED & Diddy Locked Up | PBD Podcast | Ep. 661

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick break down Hamas and Israel’s secret peace meeting, new evidence confirming Jeffrey Epstein’s global blackmail network, and Diddy officially being locked up. ------ 👕 VT ALLEGEDLY COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/3KzXIaV Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES COMMUNITY: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kJ71lc⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4kJ71lc 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A 📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7 📰 VTNEWS. AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3OExClZ 🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:01Speaker 00

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• 1:08Speaker 02

  My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.

• 1:12Patrick Bet-David?

  You are a 101?

• 1:13Speaker 02

  My son's right there.

• 1:14Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 1:22Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, folks. Rough weekend for, if your name is Diddy, but a great weekend if your name is 50 Cent. He has got another great opportunity to troll him because apparently Diddy already expected to be free and he had a speaking engagement this week. And 50 Cent comes on and says, don't worry, guys. I'll do the speaking engagement if you want me to do it. I'll come out and I'll do my thing, you know? But lots of things going on in Chicago with ICE to the point where they're not even protecting the feds. Vinny was talking about a couple of clips where the local PDs are backing up and Pritzker's saying it's all propaganda with everything that's taking place. And I cannot believe the president didn't call me to get approval about him deploying National Guard

• 2:06Patrick Bet-David?

  to our state in Oregon and other places. Well, it's called you suck in leadership and your people are saying, please come and protect me. What do you expect them to do? Your people are begging for leadership, absolutely begging for leadership because they don't have one. You know, they don't have one. There's more guys like you.

• 2:26Patrick Bet-David?

  And this other guy named Gavin in California that are thinking more about their 2028, uh, what do you call it presidential campaign than they're thinking about actually taking care of their city and their states. Uh, then you have Israel ceasefire meetings that are taking place. I think Kushner and Whitkoff are on their way, Rob. He said to Egypt this morning to have the meeting. By the way, Kushner, we haven't heard that name in a long time. He's getting in there for the negotiation stuff. So originally, you know, we didn't know if he was going to be involved a lot, but, uh, you know, in these types of instances, he is getting involved. Epstein, Howard Lutnick is talking to someone and explains a time where he is in Epstein's home. And while he's in there, he asked, oh, wow, you have a room here just for massages

• 3:11Patrick Bet-David?

  and candles. He says Epstein gave an answer to him that he and his wife, Lutnick and his wife said, I don't ever want to be around this guy ever again. Then the interviewer asks, what do you think about Gates and others? And you should hear what Lutnick had to say about that. By the way, if you're a quarterback, let's just say you played in the NFL and you are famously known for running into your offensive lineman, your center. The butt fumble. What are you doing racing others in an alley? And then we're thinking somebody attacked you, but allegedly you attacked somebody else. I mean, this is like, you were the best looking bachelor, right? You were like the guy to be with. And then this story comes out.

• 3:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny's not happy about it and he's got a few things he wants to say about it, which we'll talk about. Uh, aside from that, folks, if you're watching this and you're between ages of 70 to 79 years old, Wall Street Journal wrote a story for you. And it says the new age of entrepreneurship, 70 to 79. You know, we're 20 years away from being 66 years old, but this is some interesting stuff that's going on over there. Adam Allmending, there's a million stories to talk about. All he cares about is the comedy stuff that happened in Saudi. And he's asking, how come no one called me for money? Like Adam, if you, by the way, if some other people, if you're doing the next Saudi trip for comedians, Adam is willing to do it pro bono because he's met his requirements

• 4:35Patrick Bet-David?

  for pro bono for free comedy skits for the year. He's willing to go. Vinny, you're gonna have to pay for, Adam would be for free. It's like a buy one, get one for free. It's go go.

• 4:45Adam Sosnick?

  Buy one a Syrian, get one Jew for free. Hello? And I'll go for half price.

• 4:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. And then aside from that, you know, Trump is floats handing out $2,000 tariff rebates to all Americans because of $63 billion that rebate tariffs they made the last two months. Here's another story for you, and you know who wants to talk about this story. Women would rather stay single than compromise. Politics. A global study shows, not a local, not a regional, not a national. This is a global study, folks.

• 5:17Adam Sosnick?

  Not practice.

• 5:17Patrick Bet-David?

  We're talking about.

• 5:18Adam Sosnick?

  Not a game.

• 5:19Patrick Bet-David?

  I watched a clip yesterday from the show Ted Lasso. And Ted Lasso is talking to one of his best players. And he's going through and saying everything to him. And then 30 seconds into it, you realize what speech he's giving, Tom. You know what speech it is after after the show? It's just so funny. It's so funny. I love this Ted Lasso thing. One day a guy named Greg, sure, a good friend of ours says, watch Ted Lasso. Tell me this doesn't remind you of Tom. I watched one episode. I'm like, this is Tom Ellsworth.

• 5:45Adam Sosnick?

  So you got Ted Lasso and you got your Squid Games that you're all you're all about these days.

• 5:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Squid Games is bad to watch, but it's so addicting. Let me tell you, it's a horrible thing to watch. And I.

• 5:54Adam Sosnick?

  I've never seen you watch any TV whatsoever. Now Squid Games, you're addicted.

• 5:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Last night, Tico comes back. He was out of town with these white family he was hanging out with, but they're back.

• 6:03Adam Sosnick?

  Great people.

• 6:04Patrick Bet-David?

  While they're back, he wants to watch Fallen. Cause I told him how great Fallen is. This guy's like is up at 10:40 finishing Fallen. I'm like, nobody, we're gonna finish it another day. And it's.

• 6:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Is on my side. Yes, it is. Have you ever seen?

• 6:20Adam Sosnick?

  Oh my, with Denzel? Oh, I'm gonna start, it's like a shadow.

• 6:23Patrick Bet-David?

  And he starts doing.

• 6:25Adam Sosnick?

  That'll give me nightmares.

• 6:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Whatever that actor's name is, he's phenomenal. He's phenomenal. What is between lions? And anyways, it's the folks, don't watch Fallen. If you just don't watch it. New York City mayoral rates are still going on. Cuomo rips hypocrite Zoran Mamdani and which Cuomo? This is Chris Cuomo, not Andrew Cuomo. Andrew Cuomo apologizes to Jewish people, but his brother rips Mamdani.

• 6:52Patrick Bet-David?

  And then we got a couple of other things here and then we got, we gotta talk about all this stuff with Israel and Netanyahu, uh, uh, we'll definitely cover that. Young people are now richer than boomers were folks. If you're a boomer, when we talk about the story, maybe some earmuffs would be good for you because apparently these guys are making more money than you, according to the story. Disney attendance plunges to an all-time low for 2025 as visitors report ghost towns at parks. Can you imagine that? Disney ghost town at parks and Tom's got some updates for you. Pornhub suffers 50% drop in UK traffic after age restrictions added. And, and that's an interesting concept because I knew when I was talking to the owners of Pornhub,

• 7:37Patrick Bet-David?

  I said, why don't you put age restriction? They said, we won't do it. This is exactly why. I guesstimated they would have 50 to 90% drop off and it's already happening in UK. Fox News dominates news brands with 1.1 billion YouTube views, uh, in Q3. The billionaire Trump, this billionaire Trump ally and his son are building an unprecedented media empire. Van Jones had a few things to say on the Bill Maher clip, which probably will get to, uh, Bill Burr dismisses all this stuff that was going on. And then of course we have to talk about how many more lawsuits are friend, not friend, a guy that maybe was many people's friends when they were going to his white party, did he? How many lawsuits he's pending

• 8:20Patrick Bet-David?

  after what happened? And then Bad Bunny, how many guys are excited? But if you're watching this right now, who's excited about Bad Bunny halftime show? And by the way, guess what, folks? Guess what? You have a few months left to learn how to speak Spanish. Sí. Because you need to learn Spanish, not him learning English. It's your duty to learn Spanish. Sí. According to Bad Bunny. Bad Bunny. Cause he said so, right? Dale, dale, let's go. You gotta, you gotta learn Spanish. You got four months to do so. A lot of people are not happy. And then we talk about the Chicago stuff, we'll get into Virginia AG candidate faces bipartisan. Is this the Jay Jones guy that we're talking about? The Virginia AG candidate faces bipartisan backlash over violent inflammatory text messages?

• 9:01Speaker 05

  But he apologized, Pat, so it's all good.

• 9:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, we have to talk about it. Let's, let's read his apology.

• 9:05Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 9:06Patrick Bet-David?

  And, uh, French influencer. Did you see this one? The guy's going around syringes?

• 9:10Speaker 05

  Yeah, he just got arrested, too.

• 9:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, he's going around shooting people. I sent it to Rob. I'm like, what is this all about?

• 9:14Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 9:15Patrick Bet-David?

  So anyways, uh, so we got a lot of stories to cover. Folks, if you're, if you're watching this today, I'm gonna make it very simple for you. Yesterday, guys were posting pictures of being at football games and baseball games. One baseball game I wasn't too happy about, but they were watching it at a bunch of these baseball games. And you know what hat they were wearing and what shirt they were wearing? They were wearing the allegedly shirt.

• 9:37Speaker 05

  Ooh.

• 9:37Patrick Bet-David?

  This is by far the biggest insurance policy for you folks. Go pick up allegedly hat for 15 bucks, a sweater, a shirt, a coffee mug. Go get it. This is like limited, limited supply left because these things are running out. Originally, we can, we had a lot of different sizes, but if they have your size, go ahead and place the order with these things. They're, they're, they're one of the coolest conversation starter shirts you can wear out there. And people ask you, why are you wearing an allegedly shirt? Well, listen, it's my insurance policy to make sure I'm protected. Now, all you have to say is allegedly to make sure you're protected from people coming after you. Anyways, allegedly gear is one that people like to wear no matter where they go. All right, let's get right into the stories.

• 10:18Patrick Bet-David?

  First story I want to get into, Vinny, is, uh, uh, uh, I say we start off with the Howard Lutnick.

• 10:25Speaker 05

  I love it.

• 10:26Patrick Bet-David?

  If you want to put up the Howard Lutnick clip. So here's Howard Lutnick telling a story about what happened with him with Epstein ones. It's a very, very, so this is, they're at the house.

• 10:38Speaker 05

  Yes, this is, cause, cause mind you, Pat, this is a four and a half, four minutes, 43 second clip.

• 10:42Patrick Bet-David?

  We're not gonna watch the whole thing, but.

• 10:42Speaker 05

  So, so right now, so he's sitting down with New York Post.

• 10:45Tom Ellsworth?

  He happens to live next door. Epstein moves in. Now they're neighbors.

• 10:48Speaker 05

  Yeah, now they're moving, cause Lutnick's been there since 2005. They had to renovate. So now he doesn't really know who, uh, Epstein is yet. Trust me, guys, I did the research. He didn't know him. So, uh, and by the way, he's sitting down with the New York Post. Miranda Devine. So Epstein, I'll fill you up to this point. Epstein's assistant comes knocks on Howard Lutnick's door and goes, hey, Mr. Epstein is your new neighbor. He wants to bring you over for coffee. He's giving them a tour at him. And even Howard Lutnick is like, bro, the house is ridiculous. It's huge. And this is when he shows a part of the house and it gets a little weird. Go ahead, Rob.

• 11:20Speaker 07

  So he gives me a tour in the living room, big living room. And then across from it is double doors. I assume it's the dining room.

• 11:27Speaker 08

  Yeah.

• 11:27Speaker 07

  And he opens the door and there's a massage table in the middle of the room.

• 11:32Speaker 08

  Ooh.

• 11:33Speaker 07

  And candles all around and stuff. So I ask very insightful, cutting questions. I say to him, massage table in the middle of your house? How often you have a massage? And he says, every day. And then he like gets like weirdly close to me.

• 11:52Speaker 08

  Ooh.

• 11:53Speaker 07

  And he says, and the right kind of massage.

• 11:56Speaker 05

  And his wife is with him.

• 11:57Speaker 08

  Ooh.

• 11:57Speaker 07

  Now, my wife is standing here. So she looks at me and I look at her and we say, I'm sorry, we have to go. And we left. And in the six or eight steps it takes to get from his house to my house, my wife and I decided that I will never be in the room with that disgusting person ever again.

• 12:26Speaker 05

  God.

• 12:27Speaker 07

  So I was never in the room with him socially, for business or even philanthropy. If that guy was there, I wasn't going because he's gross.

• 12:38Speaker 05

  Okay, now, now stop it, Rob. So now. There's another part though that's coming. So now it keeps going, guys. And he's just, and by the way, I, I don't, in that world, I don't trust any of the old people that I believe exactly what the hell he's saying. He's like, I'm disgusted because everybody, once you put Howard Lutnick's next to Epstein, everybody was like, oh, he's in. No, no. It's not analysis. It's first hand. First time knowledge. Yeah, witness. So now this next one, guys, and Robbie, I would start it, Rob, started like about three minutes. This is when, uh, the conversation of other people that were there and showing up and stuff like that. And this is what, um, uh, Miranda asked him now. Go ahead, Robbie.

• 13:13Speaker 07

  Ooh, the deep nuance of Howard Lutnick. This guy is gross.

• 13:17Speaker 08

  Right. So how come Bill Gates and all these other people could hang around him and not see what you saw? Or did they see it and ignore it?

• 13:26Speaker 07

  No, they participated.

• 13:27Speaker 05

  Boom, boom.

• 13:28Speaker 07

  That's what his MO was, you know, get a massage, get a massage. And what happened in that massage room, I assume was on video.

• 13:34Speaker 05

  Video.

• 13:35Speaker 07

  This guy was the greatest blackmailer ever.

• 13:37Speaker 05

  Woo.

• 13:38Speaker 07

  Blackmail people, that's how he had money, so.

• 13:42Speaker 08

  So what happened to those videos? Why is there now such a dearth of information when, you know, Donald Trump's people are running the FBI and the DOJ?

• 13:51Speaker 07

  I assume way back when.

• 13:53Speaker 08

  Mm hmm.

• 13:53Speaker 07

  They traded those videos in exchange for him getting that eighteen month sentence. It allowed him to have visits and be out of jail. I mean, he's a serial sex offender.

• 14:07Speaker 08

  Hmm.

• 14:08Speaker 07

  How could he get eighteen months and be able to go to his office during the day and have visitors and stuff? It must have been a trade.

• 14:16Speaker 08

  Hmm.

• 14:16Speaker 07

  So my assumption, I have no knowledge.

• 14:19Speaker 08

  Hmm.

• 14:20Speaker 07

  But my assumption is there was a trade for the video.

• 14:22Speaker 05

  Okay, now, now, okay. First of all, I don't even think that they knew that.

• 14:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Is Lutnik still on the inside?

• 14:28Speaker 05

  Oh, of course. Well, oh, you have Lutnik on the inside? As far as the Trump administration. But, yes. He's the Commerce Secretary. Yeah, but at the end of this, Pat, when they're asking.

• 14:37Patrick Bet-David?

  At what level of inside is he right now? You think he's in the inner, inner, inner, inner, inner circle?

• 14:42Speaker 05

  I don't, no, no, I would take off one inner. Inner, inner, inner circle, he's definitely in the inner, inner. Yeah, no, he's inner, but even at the end, she's like, well, how does Donald Trump, the president, feel about you? He's like, listen, I don't talk to him about this, I don't know this, but I want people to understand what this guy was saying, like, what they're saying goes against everything that the White House and Cash Patel and Dan Bongino and Pam Bondi have been saying. He said they participated. Bill Gates participated. And he's assuming, which, you know. Allegedly. Allegedly, but think about, great, great word, but he said assuming, which is allegedly, like, he's listening. Plug your shirt here, buddy. Yeah, he's, think about it, he's, he's hearing something. We're learning. He's on the inside, he's heard things, he's heard a lot of things.

• 15:25Speaker 05

  I'm pretty sure he's picked up on the old Bill Gates and, bro, the connection with Bill Clinton and Mark. Middleton and him committing suicide and by the way him bringing Epstein when Epstein would visit Bill Clinton in the White House all those times 11 times or whatever Epstein would come with different younger women each time and the guy that signed him on hanged himself in front of his house with the wire and shot himself in his chest and they couldn't find the gun this is crazy this is this is very very like revealing

• 16:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Actually, you know, there's something very do you remember when we went by his house?

• 16:04Speaker 05

  Yes, yes, of course, we were running by it.

• 16:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Security, everything that was there, yeah. Yeah, I mean, look, I like his answer and I but it is contradictory.

• 16:16Speaker 05

  To the White House, to the official narrative.

• 16:18Patrick Bet-David?

  So it is contradictory to the narrative and but you gotta give him props for telling his experience with Epstein and how and how horrible it was and you know what experience? By the way, what year is he talking about?

• 16:30Speaker 05

  2005 is when that they they had the house and then he was arrested in 2008.

• 16:35Patrick Bet-David?

  2005, he's at the house, 2008. So when did the president kick him out of Mar-a-Lago? Oh, seven or oh eight?

• 16:43Speaker 05

  Oof, I don't know.

• 16:45Patrick Bet-David?

  So Rob, can you find out when did Epstein not was he not able to go back to Mar-a-Lago? Tom, what do you what do you think about the story here with Howard?

• 16:54Tom Ellsworth?

  So I have a couple of views on it and the first is why would Howard right now with all that's going on and with all the success Howard has had? Let's face it, he has the distinction of running one of the most successful presidential transitions ever in that he and Susie Wiles picked people, helped interview them, he's had this great success. Why would you go get in the mud pit of the Epstein stuff? You could stay way out over here talking about other things. There's speculation that he was interested in Besen's position if Besen went to Fed, but then they said, no, no, Besen's not going to go to Fed, he's going

• 17:37Tom Ellsworth?

  to stay right where he is. And so why with all of that and all the gloss that you've got, why would you do the interview like this unless one thing? It's true. That's what I think. Why would you even get in the mud?

• 17:50Patrick Bet-David?

  You, you just said these two things. Are you saying this is his way of getting back for not getting Besen's job?

• 17:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I mean, he, he was getting, if Besen goes to Fed, Lutnik was a leading candidate to step into Besen's.

• 18:07Patrick Bet-David?

  So why talk about this stuff now?

• 18:09Tom Ellsworth?

  So, yeah, see, I think either it's true, or...

• 18:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Why would he lie? I believe it's true.

• 18:15Speaker 05

  I believe him.

• 18:16Patrick Bet-David?

  The guy's next door to him, so why would he lie about something like this?

• 18:19Tom Ellsworth?

  That's exactly right.

• 18:20Patrick Bet-David?

  And remember what he said. What's the part about this that you can't lie about? He says, "I'm standing there and my wife is standing right here."

• 18:27Speaker 05

  And he gets close.

• 18:28Patrick Bet-David?

  And then I said, "Jeffrey, we have to go." And then they leave, right? And we take the six steps to my house, or whatever words he used. So I, I don't know why he would lie about something like this.

• 18:37Tom Ellsworth?

  That's right. There's no reason for him to lie. There's no reason to get in the mosh pit.

• 18:41Speaker 05

  And why would he say the greatest blackmailer in the, ever? Like, he knows stuff.

• 18:45Patrick Bet-David?

  I think, Vinny, I, I've come to a conclusion. I know where it's at. Yesterday, we have people over at the house for Dylan's birthday, and we're talking, and, and a couple of guys that are there are like, "Oh, you know, we just want to let you know, we watch a podcast for a long time." So, "That's great, fantastic, that's okay." So, what do you think happened here with Epstein? They're kind of, you know, it's like the, you can always tell what people are interested in.

• 19:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, of course.

• 19:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so this one was the Epstein interest. I said, "What do you think?" He says, "Well, I, I think, you know, I'm trying to see for my..." I said, "Listen." Eventually, we're going back, and I said, "Look, this, there's, you got the emotional community, you got the hardcore, cutthroat, logical community." When we had Eric Trump on the podcast Friday night, I showed a clip that Eric had never seen about his father with Baron Trump, right? When he's like, "He is smart, he is strong, he is vicious, but you have to be smart, because to win in life, you gotta be smart." So, "Good luck to you, kid."

• 19:39Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 19:40Patrick Bet-David?

  That's what you do. So the point is, to be a president, you have to be vicious. To be a president, you have to be ice cold. To be a president, you have to know how to use that, those assets. I am convinced... They're using all of those assets to hold every one of those guys blackmailed, to make sure none of them get in the way of them fulfilling whatever they have in the agenda. And I think the cutthroat vicious ice cold community fully understands that. And everybody else who doesn't, I also understand them as well. That's the conclusion I've come up with. Of course he's a blackmailer. What are you talking about? Like, of course, what the hell do you mean like the former prime minister visits 30 something time? Yo, oh, no, no, it's just they're playing backgammon. That's what it is. That's what I got, you know?

• 20:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, that's what I'm playing. Now, are you ready? What are you gonna do? We're gonna play dominoes together today. No, we're gonna play today. You would, bra, bra, we're gonna play, you know, Uno today. Today's Uno day. That's what we're doing today. Now, something's going on here. Adam, we know you have very insightful feedback on this one here. Tell us what you're thinking.

• 20:42Adam Sosnick?

  I fully agree with you that they're protecting uh, rich, powerful, connected people at the expense of young women. Pretty much it. Um, you know, there's the rule of law in our country and then there's vigilante justice. So the rule of law would say, well, you know, he was arrested 20 years ago and they did some sort of sweetheart deal, this Alex Acosta guy. And they got 18 months rather than 18 years because they worked out some deal and that's for the Justice Department. And for the rule of law to basically comprehend that. But on the flip side, it's funny, I was watching Steven Crowder.

• 21:26Adam Sosnick?

  And he goes, um, you know what they do to pedophiles in Russia, right? He goes, you didn't hear the story? He goes, yeah, so some father found out that some pedophile was like talking to his daughter. So what happened was, uh, turns out the pedophile decided to suicide himself. And he dig grave, uh, for 30 feet. And he stabbed himself in the back 25 times. Whoopsie, I guess he suicide himself. So it just basically shows in Russia, they'll deal with a situation with vigilante justice. Now, one might say, he got exactly what he deserved, bro. He's a pedophile. On the flip side, in America, we have the rule of law. And sometimes you might not like the outcome of the rule of law.

• 22:11Adam Sosnick?

  But that's for the, uh, Justice Department or whoever it was that made that deal. I fully agree with you that they're protecting rich, powerful people.

• 22:20Patrick Bet-David?

  You just sounded like the guy from Despicable Me.

• 22:23Speaker 05

  Yeah, he's the bald guy with the.

• 22:25Adam Sosnick?

  What is this person, a good person?

• 22:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, you just sounded like the guy from Despicable Me.

• 22:29Adam Sosnick?

  I'm from Baku, PBD.

• 22:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Baku, Azerbaijan.

• 22:32Adam Sosnick?

  This is me.

• 22:33Speaker 05

  Let me ask you a question. Did any of the people that were at your house talking, did any of them believe that Trump is, meaning not Trump is guilty, but that these guys are like, hey, listen, we have all this footage, we have CIA, whatever, and they're like, we're in control. You don't do, you don't, you're not putting any of this out there. None of them had that, okay.

• 22:52Adam Sosnick?

  But didn't they, did we cover this one time?

• 22:53Patrick Bet-David?

  No, Vinny, that, that to me is, is out the window. That to me is out the window. And, and, and the reason for it is because, do you believe, do you believe the call that Trump made screaming at Netanyahu about what happened with Qatar?

• 23:12Speaker 05

  Hundred percent.

• 23:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you believe?

• 23:13Speaker 05

  Did it happen? Yeah.

• 23:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you believe, did you not just see that Netanyahu came and apologized to Qatar of what they did without telling the president?

• 23:20Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 23:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes. Do you, do you think a person who has that kind of blackmail on our president would allow anyone to talk to him like that?

• 23:29Adam Sosnick?

  No way.

• 23:30Speaker 05

  No.

• 23:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Then it's done.

• 23:31Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 23:31Patrick Bet-David?

  That's where I'm at. Because whoever has blackmail has authority. And Netanyahu shows me no authority around Trump. And I know it's a, at one point I'm like, maybe there is, maybe let me watch it. But then when you hear multiple times, we're like, yeah, we have decided to build on Gaza. We're thinking about putting a Trump tower or something like that. And then Epstein, Netanyahu makes the famous look. Do you remember that one? No, no, this guy is a, this guy's a funny guy. No, he is toying with these guys and, but do I think he has, you know, the ice cold blood, like, do I think his blood is pure ice cold? I think it's got a drop of warm red blood in it, and he hides it.

• 24:15Patrick Bet-David?

  He makes sure you never see it. Cause when I asked Eric Trump multiple times, I said, so. Have you seen your dad get emotional? First, we talk about driving. Says one time he's driving in a Rolls Royce and everybody's flipping on off. He says, "Look, everybody loves me here." He's driving 55 miles an hour in the Jersey Turnpike. Did he ever make you breakfast? "Oh, no, he never made us breakfast." Did he, you know, did he ever cry? Yeah, we all got emotional with this last election. He didn't want to say it, but he said, "We all got emotional with this election." I believe him. Look at this. That's the Mar-a-Lago to the left. And look, can you imagine Trump at a gas station filling up the tank with his... Oh, my God. Gas is $1.29.

• 24:48Tom Ellsworth?

  And now he says he doesn't drive at all.

• 24:49Patrick Bet-David?

  No, it's actually 29 cents. That's how you can...

• 24:51Tom Ellsworth?

  No way. And even Eric Trump said, "There's a picture..."

• 24:54Adam Sosnick?

  Thanks, Joe Biden. Gas under Trump used to be 29 cents.

• 24:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Eric referred to, I think Eric used the word epic. He said, "There's also a picture of him at the car in the pink shirt that's rather epic." Because he's at a gas station.

• 25:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Anyways, let's get to the next story here. Let's talk about the Israel ceasefire. So, the Israel ceasefire that's taking place right now, I believe, Whitkoff and Kushner are on their way to Egypt to negotiate the deal and see what's going to be happening there. But let me read a couple of these things and then we'll get right into it. Rob, is that the one telling us that they're on their way there? Okay, go for it.

• 25:27Speaker 09

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• 26:48Speaker 10

  Yeah, good morning, Willie. So we're getting some new details starting to emerge from Israel about those negotiations that are set to begin tomorrow. President Trump announced yesterday that Israel agreed to initial line on the map for its eventual withdrawal from Gaza. Now, once Hamas agrees, the president says the ceasefire and prisoner exchange will begin immediately. Netanyahu himself, Israel's prime minister, addressed the Israeli public last night, saying he hopes that all of this will wrap up in these talks in just a few days, after which the remaining 20 living hostages will be returning home. But there are still a lot of details to work out here, Willie.

• 27:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Can pause right there, right? So, so, right here, a couple of things. Tens of thousands of people are in the streets of Tel Aviv pressuring Netanyahu to close the deal on the hostage release. Boom, that's taking place. Then you have Whitgoff and Kushner, which we just talked about. And then you have President Trump issuing a new warning to Hamas to move quickly on hostage release, or bets are off over peace deal. Tom, your thoughts on what's going on here?

• 27:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, there's a couple of things that are going on in Gaza that we saw over the weekend. No speculation, everyone agrees. All the news media, everybody's reporting it the same way. Even news media doesn't like each other. There is a street which is forming a line. There's a map of Gaza, and there's a street that says, hey, you can go from, I think it's, you can go from west to east, down the street, across the center of Gaza, and they have sirens going off, and they have announcements saying, you guys got to evacuate. You gotta evacuate here to clear this out, this zone. And I think, yep, the peace deal, yep, there's this section that I think Israel's going to go in there and saying, okay, any of you Hamas that don't want to get with points

• 28:30Tom Ellsworth?

  2, 3, 4, 7, and 9, you know, on the peace deal, once all the citizens and everybody are out of there, we are going to sweep this thing if you're still there. And I think this is basically the end of the end in this area.

• 28:44Adam Sosnick?

  And so that's what we're hearing. The other thing is that Hamas didn't say absolutely no. And there is a kind of a not a not quite a neutral, but Egypt in there allowing them to have a place to come talk about it. So I see all of that as progress, but I'm still skeptical on Hamas. But I think this is progress. Uh, number one. And number two, I think it's really bad news for Hamas. Because once this evacuation order and all this section and you and I looked at that map, that one street that goes straight across, man, everything that's inside there that is holding a gun and behaving badly, you don't need an insurance actuarial table to determine what's about to happen to that. They are gonna sweep this thing.

• 29:25Speaker 05

  Adam.

• 29:26Adam Sosnick?

  So by the time this episode comes out, it's tomorrow's October 7th. So by the time a lot of people watch this, it'll be the one year anniversary, I'm sorry, the two year anniversary of October 7th. So I'll ask the following questions. What did this war accomplish? Because if you look at it from the Palestinian perspective, if you go back to October 6th, two years ago, literally today, two years ago, they were living in actual normalcy. Now you might critique the extent of which this quote unquote blockade was uh, in Gaza, but they were free. Uh, you know, as much as that means.

• 30:04Speaker 05

  As much as a Middle Eastern.

• 30:05Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, like there's literally no free place in the Middle East, which is the hypocrisy of free Palestine. There's not one free place in the Middle East other than Israel. But look at Gaza now. How did this benefit the Palestinian people? I feel horrible for these people. Like anyone that doesn't view this as a humanitarian crisis.

• 30:22Speaker 05

  Yeah, by the way, that that right there is a drone shot of Gaza. And I'm just trying to figure out, was Hamas hiding in every single building?

• 30:32Adam Sosnick?

  So this isn't Detroit, this is Gaza. Yeah, Hamas does a lot of booby traps.

• 30:35Speaker 05

  No, no, Adam, hold on, hold on. You cannot tell me that that is complete and total. That looks like a nuke went off. Like that's not even, that is insane.

• 30:46Adam Sosnick?

  So you're absolutely right. And I would argue that this is exactly what Hamas wanted. Think about that for a second, because I didn't say the Palestinian people, this is what Hamas wanted. Because they knew when they went in on October 7th and they killed all these people and took hostages. You think this is their first time dealing with the IDF? They've been feuding with these guys years. They know what they're doing. They were willing to martyr their own people to sacrifice for their cause. So, October 6th, they were living in somewhat normalcy. You see videos of, dude, Gaza is one of the most beautiful places on the planet. Do you understand that? Just north of it is Tel Aviv. It's a gorgeous Mediterranean Sea town.

• 31:31Adam Sosnick?

  But look at the town now. So, did this help the Palestinian people? Not at all. Did it help the Palestinian cause? I would say yes. So this October 7th was the best and worst thing to happen to Israel. What do I mean? Well, regionally, Israel is kicking everyone's ass. Hamas, the Houthis, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad. We see what's going on in Iran. Everyone's lost, lost, lost. Syria, Lebanon, Hezbollah. But globally, this has affected the brand of Israel and even Jewish people for that matter. So you know, they say you can, you know, win the battle but lose the war. There's a lot going on with that.

• 32:14Adam Sosnick?

  So, I think from a Trump perspective, this is going to possibly be the biggest deal he's ever done. If he can get this done. The one gliver of hope that I do have is that Trump, remember when he went around the Middle East? And he had all those, he went to Saudi, he went to Dubai, went to Qatar, he had all these meetings. What's the likelihood, he said, guys, we gotta end this war and I need your help. And you hear him say, I want to thank Jordan, I want to thank Egypt, I want to thank Saudi, I want to thank Qatar. He's understanding that in order for this deal to get done, it's not about Hamas. It's about the 99% of the rest of the Muslim Arab community that says, let's help you with this. And if he can do that, there's a possibility of a ceasefire and a peace deal, but I don't trust Hamas.

• 32:59Tom Ellsworth?

  You're well read on this. What do you think? What do you think the effectiveness of the commission that will be led by Trump and Blair? Because that's different. There's never been like a, like, I don't want to say the word, but I'm gonna say it. Kind of like a mini UN that they're establishing with world leaders from other places that are gonna be in governance. What do you think the potential for success with that?

• 33:21Adam Sosnick?

  Well, I trust Trump and Kushner and Whitkoff, Tony Blair. I mean, isn't he like?

• 33:27Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm talking about the commission.

• 33:28Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, is he partially responsible for what happened many years ago in the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan? That's a whole nother conversation. It's kind of like letting the wolf into the sheep's den. But as far as the commission, I would love to see a coalition of like-minded, moderate Arab states who's saying, "We want stability in the region." We all know the biggest, baddest actor in the region has been the Islamic Republic of Iran. They've been defanged and we see what's going on with that. But I think this coalition for regional stability is the most important coalition that Trump might have put together in the history of the Middle East. The only downside is Hamas cannot be a part of it.

• 34:09Adam Sosnick?

  And Hamas is gonna have a choice to say, "Do I really want to disarm and give these hostages back? Or do I want to literally rule a city of ashes?" And if you know anything about Hamas, they're a big believer in this thing called jihad. And that trumps everything, so to speak.

• 34:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Vinny?

• 34:28Speaker 05

  Well, like you, so tomorrow is October 7th, two years. I remember two years, it was October, I want to say 9th. No, I'm sorry. It was like a week after October 7th. John Kirby under Biden said, somebody was like, "So how did this happen? How could the most secure location on the entire planet have this attack happen? They didn't know, six hours this." And you remember what he said? "Now's not the time." It's been two years. There's still nobody talking about how that happened. I think to find out how we got here, we have to figure out what happened. There's been no, no, no explanation of how that happened. There's even, I saw Israeli IDF soldiers in Israel, and it's all in Hebrew with subtitles. And the guy's saying, "We got stand-down orders."

• 35:12Speaker 05

  At the hours of this time and this time stand down orders. That guy needs to, I don't know what's happening in their courts. Who, who would give that type of order to IDF soldiers not to, to respond? It's almost like what's happening in Chicago, don't fight, don't fight, stay back. So that has to be answered and I think this dragged out two year war, Adam. They were going to do this, in my opinion, regardless. What, I think the anger.

• 35:35Adam Sosnick?

  They who, they Hamas?

• 35:36Speaker 05

  No, no, I think, no, I think BB, the goal was to wipe, like, I think the mission was to do this. But, and, and by the way, it's not antisemitism that's happening. I think it's anger at the Israeli government. If you were gonna do it, do it. You think should have came in and attacked.

• 35:53Tom Ellsworth?

  I, I, I don't know. I mean, you're saying that, that Israel would have done it anyway. Destroy Gaza.

• 35:58Speaker 05

  Yes, it was gonna happen regardless, Tommy.

• 36:00Tom Ellsworth?

  There were two parts of Gaza. The part above ground, a part underground. The part above ground, there was a huge percentage of, of people living in Gaza. Including, including Jewish people, Israelis that lived in Gaza. So there was all the citizens that were living at peace and had a working economy. And you see all the pictures of that, that, that thing we last saw there, um, which showed the, uh, the, the, all the boats and everything. Look at all the boats at the marina, look at this, there's a beach community, not, not like.

• 36:27Adam Sosnick?

  This is when?

• 36:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Like Florida, yeah, this is before.

• 36:29Speaker 05

  This, that's before and after.

• 36:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Abdullah El Haji, and.

• 36:32Adam Sosnick?

  That's actually impressive, Tom. But then, just to clarify, there were zero Jews living in, anywhere near Gaza.

• 36:37Speaker 05

  Yeah, so I, so that's, that's why.

• 36:39Adam Sosnick?

  They're literally not allowed there.

• 36:40Speaker 05

  No, they're not allowed in Gaza.

• 36:41Adam Sosnick?

  Wait a minute, talk about apartheid. No, they're literally not allowed to go anywhere.

• 36:46Speaker 05

  So Tom, my, my point is being.

• 36:47Tom Ellsworth?

  So you had the above ground community that had voted for the.

• 36:50Patrick Bet-David?

  But let's go with your point.

• 36:51Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 36:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's go with your point. So Vinny, your point is, you're saying that, uh, they were gonna do this regardless, is what you're saying. Okay, there's multiple arguments, because I've, I've heard this on, on, on, uh, what do you call it? Like a, it's like a broken record. It's every time it's the same thing of, how did you stand out? We were one of the first podcasts to even address that. Would Charlie try to sit in exactly where you're sitting right now, right? Okay, so we got that, and this is the clip. If you wanna clear, uh, press the first part, go ahead, Rob.

• 37:23Speaker 11

  I've been to Israel many times, the whole country is a fortress. When I first heard this story, I still have the same gut instinct that I did initially. I find this very hard to believe. I've been to that Gaza border. You cannot go 10 feet without running into a 19-year-old with an AR-15 or an automatic machine gun that has an IDF.

• 37:41Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it right there. So, so, so we, we address this, but this is where I'm going. Where I'm going is, do I believe there was a stand-down and for whatever reason, they didn't come and get it? I do. Like, do I believe that? I, myself, I do. Uh, because i- if, if your intel is that smart and that brilliant, where you can send 5,000 pagers and you're this creative and you can get intel and, you know, Trump is like, "I'm sorry, what are you doing? Where are you? I can tell you exactly where you're at." Trump didn't get that intel. He got it from Israel, Mossad gave it to him, right? So, you can't be that good and not know. However, that is one thing. The other, the fact that they attacked, they imposed.

• 38:23Speaker 11

  100%.

• 38:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so they imposed. So, they imposed their attack and this guy saying, "Oh, really? This is what you want to do? Let them. Look what we're gonna do to them. We're gonna destroy them." Do I think an instance like that could have happened? Yes. But the reality of it is what? They prompted it.

• 38:39Speaker 11

  Oh, for sure.

• 38:39Patrick Bet-David?

  So, they prompted it. So, I know this, this whole thing is like, you know, you know, the, the, the, it's still the lingering energy of, you know, "This is all because of Israel. This is all because of Israel. This is all because of Israel." Not the first domino. The first domino is Hamas.

• 38:55Speaker 11

  100%, 100%, I agree.

• 38:56Patrick Bet-David?

  The way to react, you can question the reaction and say, "Well, we would have done this, we would have done that." You know, uh, it's sometimes when somebody wants to do something to you and you've told them many, many years, "Don't do this, don't do this, don't do this." Eventually, like, "You want to do it? Let them do it. Let them do it and then see what happens to them." You know, a kid screws up, you tell him, "Don't do it." You eventually are like, "Go ahead and put that thing in the, in the, what do you call it? Electricity."

• 39:24Speaker 11

  You're gonna shock yourself.

• 39:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead and do it. Just let them do it one time. And then he's like, "I will never do that again, Brad. How many more hundreds of times do I need to tell you? Don't put it there." So, I think there was something there, you know, again, you could say, "But that's evil." That goes back to the Epstein story of Trump having the information and, and you haven't.

• 39:42Speaker 11

  And using it as leverage.

• 39:43Patrick Bet-David?

  It's not for the average day-to-day person. And it's, it's a side of this job that you have to be ice cold. I mean, what did Netanyahu do before he became the prime minister? What did he and his brother do? Mossad, yeah. What wars did they fight? No, not just Mossad. He was a higher level. These guys were Delta Force. These guys were both highest ranking level Delta Force of Israel, killing, getting shot at, his brother died, like, they're not- His brother died in the raid on Entebbe, which was a hostage rescue mission. These are not some, you know, good-looking millionaire life that came out that, hey, this is what we're gonna be doing. They are as, like, I don't even know how to make the comparison of them in America, politically. Tell me when's the last time we had a president that was Delta Force or Special Forces? We never had one, no. Tell me when's the last time we had somebody like that?

• 40:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Never. Like a Teddy Roosevelt or something? No, but he wasn't, not this level. Maybe Eisenhower's like the guy you have to go to that back? And maybe even that. Maybe. But what I'm saying to you is, like, probably the best comparison to this

• 40:44Patrick Bet-David?

  is the George Washington-ish, like, guys from the beginning that just, the way they got what they got is by, we are a byproduct of America the first hundred years being very nasty. How old is Israel right now? 1948 is when it was- So how old is Israel right now? Six, seventy-some years? Okay, do you know what I'm saying? It's seventy-seven years old, seventy, what is it, seventy, yeah? So I'm seventy-seven years old? So, check this out, if it's seventy, what did America look like the first seventy-seven years? So go 1776, go into the 1850s. What did America look like? We kinda had a civil war just after that. What I'm saying to you is, like, they're so in it, that to say who you compared that to,

• 41:26Patrick Bet-David?

  yeah, we don't have people like that in America, right now. These guys are true, true believers. They look at everybody else and they, even these guys, the only people they probably look at and say, "You're comparable to us", is a Putin, cuz Putin fought, Putin did. They look at the people that were warrior leaders of a nation. You don't have to agree with it. You don't have to sit there and be, uh, uh, uh, what are you saying? Saying, "That still doesn't make sense, how could you say something like that?" I totally get it. These are ice-cold people. That responded to what Hamas did and then they said, okay, you want to do that? Let's wrap it up. That's what I think happened. Go ahead.

• 42:05Speaker 05

  So let me ask you a question. So it's been, and Adam, I'm sorry, because I want to know both of you guys. So it's been two years and what I'm saying, I know like this was, this was the goal anyway, because Pat, we're talking about Hamas, tunnels, hostages, they're not going to give them up. Okay. Meaning, this is going to be the fight that you're going to have regardless. Do you think if Bibi and the Israeli government, Tom, like gave everybody a week, guys, because they've killed, what, sixty, seventy, how many thousands of innocent?

• 42:32Adam Sosnick?

  Well, relax, buddy. Half of those people are Hamas. So.

• 42:35Speaker 05

  You, but you, or you have, but you're definitively.

• 42:37Adam Sosnick?

  Hamas's numbers?

• 42:38Speaker 05

  No, no, I'm not listening to any numbers. You're, how do you have your numbers? That you're saying half of them, all right, Adam?

• 42:44Adam Sosnick?

  Well, how do you have your numbers?

• 42:45Speaker 05

  Let's just say, I'll give you half. I'll give you, I'll give you half. I'll give you half. Thirty-five thousand, thirty thousand innocent people are dead.

• 42:52Patrick Bet-David?

  What's, what's your point?

• 42:53Speaker 05

  My point is that, here's my point. Here's my point.

• 42:55Adam Sosnick?

  That war is nasty?

• 42:57Speaker 05

  Because everybody's saying that there's a bunch of antisemitism happening right now. I think it's anti-government. If they went in and just did it, Pat, quick like that, you think the people, like, the, the sentiment of the world would be angry, as angry as Israel now? I'm just curious.

• 43:13Patrick Bet-David?

  I think here's what you have to realize, okay? And, and this is never going to go away. I think you're talking to a community of two billion people who hate a community of fifteen million people. It's, it's not ten X, it's a hundred and fifty X of their people. If there's one person in the room right now to speak on their behalf and a hundred and fifty people on the other side, who are you going to believe?

• 43:39Speaker 05

  You have a hundred and fifty people?

• 43:40Patrick Bet-David?

  That's what's happening to you. No, no, what I'm, what I'm trying to say to you is that's what the world is going through right now.

• 43:47Speaker 05

  Well, but you, but you understand my question though? If it happened faster, would there be that many angry people still?

• 43:52Patrick Bet-David?

  But Vinny, let's get to the bottom of it. That's not the bottom of it. That's the, the bottom of it isn't that.

• 43:56Adam Sosnick?

  I'll answer Vinny's question.

• 43:58Patrick Bet-David?

  But let me, let me just say that from my perspective, that's not it because we'll go here and then we'll go here and then we'll go here and then we're like, yeah, but isn't it that this? No, no, just get to what you think is going on and what you really think is taking place. Here's what I think is really taking place. Okay. Then say it if that's what you think's taking place. But the reality of it is these guys, when you're saying, you know, they were eventually going to do it. If you live. Next to a certain neighbor Vinny, where every night you're worried for the safety of your kids, you're probably eventually gonna do something.

• 44:33Speaker 05

  Of course.

• 44:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, and that's what they're doing.

• 44:35Speaker 05

  Yeah, so, and that might, my point is, why didn't it happen faster? It's been two years.

• 44:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Well.

• 44:40Speaker 05

  Like, you know what I mean? Like, get to it.

• 44:42Adam Sosnick?

  Why didn't what happen faster?

• 44:43Speaker 05

  Like, get in the tunnels and go kill, like, go for it. Go get, do an underground mission.

• 44:48Adam Sosnick?

  You're oversimplifying a hostage situation in a war-torn, ravaged area as if it's just like, come on, bro, let's get the hostages.

• 44:55Speaker 05

  Adam, they're down to, did you hear what they said? They're down to 20 alive hostages. That means they've been torturing them and killing them. So you've been waiting for two years. I'm saying, for the sake of the hostages, go and effing get them. And start, go for it. No, they thought about it, but Adam.

• 45:10Adam Sosnick?

  You think this is somebody that just came to the realization?

• 45:11Speaker 05

  My point is, it's taken two years.

• 45:13Adam Sosnick?

  You probably wanna get those hostages.

• 45:14Speaker 05

  Two years, and we're assuming.

• 45:16Adam Sosnick?

  That's been the linchpin in all of this.

• 45:17Patrick Bet-David?

  But, by the way, that's a valid question as well, that Vinny's asking. Like, you know, game one of the Yankees against, who do they play? Yankees played, uh.

• 45:26Adam Sosnick?

  Blue Jays.

• 45:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Not Blue Jays, the one that they won.

• 45:28Adam Sosnick?

  Red Sox.

• 45:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Red Sox. He takes Jason Fried out after six and, uh, two-thirds or one-third? I don't know what it was. Yeah, six innings and a third, right? And takes him out, he's doing great, and he takes him out and then they lose. So why'd you take him out? Then the next game, the rookie guy's pitching, Schlechter, and he leaves him till the eighth inning, he pitches 12 strikeouts, right? And you make adjustments. And these are professionals.

• 45:50Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 45:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, that's a very valid question. Maybe that was a mistake they made. In a military, you're not gonna get it right with everything that you're doing.

• 45:57Adam Sosnick?

  I agree.

• 45:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Maybe that's a mistake that they made, but go ahead, Adam. Wrap the stuff so we can get to the next story.

• 46:00Adam Sosnick?

  You talked about this whole concept of Hanlon's razor. Not everything is this coordinated, conspiratorial thing. Sometimes things just happen. Is that the whole premise that we're talking about? Hanlon's razor?

• 46:09Patrick Bet-David?

  No, Hanlon's razor.

• 46:10Adam Sosnick?

  It's the fact that it's, don't chalk up, uh, put-together coalition of things with just stupidity.

• 46:16Patrick Bet-David?

  No, Hanlon's razor is about, don't think because that person's late because they're disrespecting you and they don't respect you. Don't think that everybody is trying to do bad things. It's not malice.

• 46:27Adam Sosnick?

  Never attribute malice to which can inadequately explain to stupidity.

• 46:31Patrick Bet-David?

  So meaning, don't jump to conclusion.

• 46:32Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, so, so regarding what happened that day with Charlie Kirk, let me just address that. Those questions of the. Total, uh, can totally be asked. I have friends in Israel. I have Jewish friends. I have friends from all over the world that ask that question. The point is that I've tried to emphasize is jumping to conclusions. People are just jumping to a conclusion. So, October 7th, you asked like, why didn't, uh, they respond, on October 8th, the world started condemning Israel, two years ago. That to me was like, whoa. On October 8th, when the hostages were just taken, they just killed 1,200 people, the world was condemning Israel. That was a big turning point for me. I'm like, what? Even if you don't agree with some of the political and geopolitical arrangements

• 47:17Adam Sosnick?

  there, you're applauding Hamas and condemning Israel the day after this atrocity? That to me was a telltale sign. As far as this October 7th, you know, was it a stand down order? Uh, let's just address a couple of things. What day did it happen? On a Saturday morning, which is Shabbat, the Sabbath. Charlie Kirk was, uh, writing a book about, uh, turning your phone off and, uh, observing the Sabbath. A lot of people in Israel do that. This was also a week after Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur and a holiday called Simchat Torah, meaning it's like the highest holy holidays in Israel. So if you're Hamas and you're gonna, and you're gonna attack, you're gonna do it when everyone has their phones off during the holy month where they're

• 48:01Adam Sosnick?

  not prepared. Now you could say, well, you should still be prepared.

• 48:05Speaker 05

  The military doesn't stand down for holidays.

• 48:07Adam Sosnick?

  And I totally understand that.

• 48:08Speaker 05

  They have to get heightened. They get more heightened because they know that the enemy was

• 48:12Adam Sosnick?

  Put it this way, in Israel, if they take a Saturday off at this point, then you're sleeping on the job, homeboy. But as far as, uh, people's commentary, in my humble opinion, if you've never been to that side of the world, I mean, you've never stepped foot in Israel, the Middle East, Saudi, Iran, shush.

• 48:30Adam Sosnick?

  You have no clue what it's like. You have no clue what it's like. If you're talking, if you're on a college campus and you've never been to that side of the world, time for you to shush. Because the loudest people in the room are the woke white liberals, not the Middle Eastern community. You don't see protests in Saudi. You don't see protests in Dubai. You don't see protests in Iran. And if you do, those people are hung the next day. It's always protests in white, woke liberal countries that have been invaded by the Muslim Brotherhood. So, we're gonna see what happens here. Truly, truly, truly, I think there's a very small segment of the Palestinian people that actually want peace. Actually don't think they want peace. Because they've had the opportunity to have peace deals for years

• 49:14Adam Sosnick?

  and years and years and years, and they've constantly rejected it. Because there's a phrase they've constantly said, tell me if you've heard this, "From to the river to the sea, Palestine will be free," which means what thing? They want it all. So, if there's a genocide going on, really, wouldn't you want a ceasefire immediately? Like, there's a geno- stop the ceasefire. They're like, "Well, let's wait and see if we like the deal or not." Okay, I get that. But if there's really a genocide, probably want to take this deal immediately? Which goes to show, it's all the genocide, all the apartheid, all this, it's all talking points. Like PBD said, there's 150 people saying, "Ceasefire now!" And there's one person be like, "Yeah, okay, let's do it. Give us the hostages." They're like, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

• 49:59Adam Sosnick?

  That's a little too much of a bargaining point here, buddy. You want the hostages back?" So, I think the truth will come out. And if this happens, Trump will get a Nobel Peace Prize, but I'm still not sold.

• 50:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you, the fact that they're doing this out there, trying to make this deal happen, we hope it gets done, and it gets done ASAP, because there's been way too much talking wars for the last two years, whether it's them or Ukraine, Russia. We'd like to see this stop. And by the way, both of those wars, just so everybody knows this, they both got started under a guy named Joseph Biden. Joseph, for one, no, they're not under Trump. They got started under Joseph Biden. And he has to now- Find a way to stop it. All right, let's go to another place that is a problematic place right now to be ran by a guy named Pritzker. Illinois, Chicago, the ICE is out there, right?

• 50:53Patrick Bet-David?

  First of all, Rob, if you don't mind going out there and showing the clip of Pritzker talking about on Twitter, if you can go on Twitter, Pritzker tweets out something about, just go to my Twitter account, Rob.

• 51:03Speaker 05

  I love that you said something last night.

• 51:05Patrick Bet-David?

  If you just go to my Twitter account and that's Pritzker right there, Rob, if you can zoom in on, yeah, please, there you go. So he says, "This evening, President Trump is ordering 400 members of the Texas National Guard for deployments to Illinois, Oregon, and other locations within the United States. No officials from the federal government called me directly to discuss or coordinate." So your people are begging for leadership and you're not providing it. If you were able to do the job, the president wouldn't need to step in. What am I gonna do calling you at this point? Well, what we gonna do right now, calling you? You're like, "No, no, no, we have it under control." This is purely a publicity stunt on your end. Okay, purely a publicity stunt on your end. Now, let me, let me kind of go through some of this stuff. So White House authorizes deployment of National Guard to Illinois.

• 51:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, I think you have a clip on this, if you don't mind pulling it up. It's from the one on page six. So President Trump and the White House is like, "Look, guys, we're done, we're not waiting." Calls the shot, here's Pritzker, not happy about it with an ugly tie on. Buck, why don't you play this clip, Rob, if you can? Go ahead.

• 52:06Speaker 12

  Secretary doesn't know what she's talking about. She frankly says that people are clapping, they're not. They're booing her on the street and they're booing ICE and CBP. They're marching, CBP marching on a beautiful Sunday in Michigan Avenue in downtown Chicago. They're raiding neighborhoods where instead of going after the bad guys, they're just picking up people who are brown and black and then checking their credentials. "Are you a US citizen?" I don't know about you, but I don't carry around papers that say, "I'm a US citizen." So you can imagine, people are getting detained, they're getting arrested, US citizens. And they did this, of course, when they raided a building in the middle of the night in South Shore. 130 people that were emptied out of this building.

• 52:51Speaker 12

  They were going after a few gang members. And instead, they broke windows, they broke down doors, they ransacked the place. And there were people that were held, I mean elderly people and children zip tied. Elderly people held for three hours at a time. They are the ones that are making it a war zone. They need to get out of Chicago if they're not going to focus on the worst of the worst, which is what the president said they were going to do. They need to get the heck out.

• 53:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so, Chicago. White House calls, deploys a National Guard. Federal Trump is sending 300 National Guard troops to Illinois. The latest example of federal government sending guardsmen to public cities amidst ongoing violent riots and lawlessness that local leaders like Pritzker have refused to step in to quell. President Trump has authorized the 300 folks to go out there. White House spokesperson Abigail Jackson said in a statement, Pritzker on Saturday said he was informed the President Trump's administration plans to send the 300 people. So Tom, what do you think is going on over here?

• 53:54Tom Ellsworth?

  So I'll tell you what's going on. The Dems need their next George Floyd. They need blood and they want blood. They want somebody on their back bleeding, shot by a federal officer or shot by the National Guard. That's what they want. They do not care about the people. If they cared about the people, they would be looking at the impact of the crime. And he said, oh, these people weren't cheering, they were booing. How many clips do we need on X and elsewhere of people saying, I'm glad you're here. I live over there. Where are you? Can't you help the school over here? How many of these? These are not paid actors. There are problems, but guess what? You can't run for higher office and you can't run for president if you're running on a

• 54:36Tom Ellsworth?

  platform that says that you were unable to improve Illinois and Chicago. So you couldn't help there, now you want a bigger job? Really? Your political LinkedIn looks pretty terrible here. You didn't do a very good job in your prior assignment. That's what's going on. And it is, Trump is not going to go in here just...

• 54:58Tom Ellsworth?

  To do it. He's doing it because it's necessary and because leadership stands up and stands in the gap for the innocent when it's necessary. And this is being politicized by J.B. Pritzker and others so they could use the A-word authoritarianism. Oh, it's fascist authoritarianism, sending in the military because that's their narrative. But the truth, as you take a look at these things, is they're going to find all the images, they're going to portray it this way, that way, and then, in Chicago, when angry mobs show up, people that don't want to be deported and people that support them, suddenly show up around them, you tell the police, speaking of stand-down orders, you issue a stand-down order in Chicago to

• 55:41Tom Ellsworth?

  leave these people hanging out. They want blood. They want that crowd to form around those officers. They want those officers to kill somebody because now they've got their George Floyd. And then, as the old phrase goes, now you have the bloody albatross to wave and to claim victimhood. That's what's going on.

• 55:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, and by the way, while this is happening, Trump pauses a $2.1 billion Chicago infrastructure project over race-based contracting concerns. So, to make that sure that the funding is not flowing via race-based contracting, the director of the office management and the budget, the OMB, announced this Friday, $2.1 billion Chicago infrastructure project, specifically the red line extension and the red and purple modernization project have been put on hold to ensure funding is not flowing via race-based contracting. I mean, while this is taking place, so they're going through that. Is that it, Rob?

• 56:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes.

• 56:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead and play the clip.

• 56:34Tom Ellsworth?

  The people of Chicago have been begging for these improvements. This is like the California train to nowhere. The money comes in, it gets corruptively skimmed, and the people don't get the red line and purple line so they can go back and forth to work.

• 56:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch this here. Go ahead.

• 56:45Speaker 13

  Right now, the red line only goes as far as 95th Street, but the extension project would take it further south and east, all the way to 130th Street. But for the moment, all that is on hold with the Trump administration putting a freeze on $2.1 billion in federal grants that Congress approved for the project.

• 57:03Speaker 14

  We're going to use every tool that's available to me to ensure that those dollars are... Restore to the people of this city.

• 57:10Speaker 13

  The US Department of Transportation said it is in the process of reviewing the funding for the project, quote, "to ensure no additional federal dollars go towards discriminatory, illegal, and wasteful contracts."

• 57:21Speaker 05

  Vinny, your thoughts on this story?

• 57:22Tom Ellsworth?

  It's... They couldn't pay for it themselves, this is US taxpayers paying for their trains.

• 57:26Speaker 05

  Exactly. I just, I just hope, I hope people on that side are listening, please don't just listen to them and watch mainstream media, which is at an all-time low of trust. I hope they're watching podcasts like this, and I'm not being, I'm not trying to promote our show, just listen to another side. They don't care of... Oh, my mic just went. I just lost.

• 57:47Tom Ellsworth?

  We just lost Vinny.

• 57:48Speaker 05

  Oh, uh, yeah. They don't care about you at all, okay? Zero. That's all BS propaganda, talking points, and then the attitude towards ICE, Pat. Gavin Newsom, all that, all that rhetoric, that dog-wilson that they do, same with JB Pritzker, on Saturday, to go back to the ICE, officers, DHS officers, were ambushed in what looks like to be a coordinated attack. Ten cars boxed them in. Baramar Martinez, okay, this one girl, she was armed with a semi-automatic weapon, she didn't fire, but she used her vehicle to ram these, the DHS vehicles. They trapped them in, and they fired at her, hit her, didn't kill her. She

• 58:32Speaker 05

  took off and was found a mile away at a repair shop before taken to the hospital. And then another suspect, Anthony Ian Santos, was arrested for assaulting and impeding officers. Okay, Rob, can you show that one video of, like, this is what they're dealing with? This is what these guys are dealing with? Keep going, Rob. Um, I think I slacked them to you. Oh, yeah, so look, that, that white car is an ICE vehicle. Look, look what's happening. Can you imagine, Pat? White car's an ICE vehicle? The white car's an ICE vehicle, you can see how the things are flashing. This person, this individual, this isn't the girl, this is just another instance. Look at it, ramming and driving and pushing the car, and then look at him. The guy's trying to, look, and then still, still... Who is the Escalade? Who is the black suburban?

• 59:12Speaker 05

  It's just a Chicago person that's just trying to get involved and try to, uh, attack ICE agents and stop them. Yeah.

• 59:19Tom Ellsworth?

  There were allegations that it was a stolen vehicle being used as a ram.

• 59:22Speaker 05

  Look at this.

• 59:23Tom Ellsworth?

  I haven't found anything from the police department that confirmed that, Pat.

• 59:26Speaker 05

  What?

• 59:26Tom Ellsworth?

  But it certainly looks like a bunch of guys stole the car and used it as a ramming tool.

• 59:31Speaker 05

  And I know I said this last week, um... Attacks on ICE agents are up 800%. Okay, where's it, it's not coming organically. In fact, we talked about the sources and the people that are funding and pushing this stuff. I really hope we get to the root of the cause of what's of causing the division and this insanity and this chaos in the country. Uh, and then, yeah, Pritzker was on, um, Tapper. He said it was propaganda. Rob, do you have that, that clip as well? Yep. He said, "It's really hard to know the facts." You just saw what you saw, Pat. Listen to this guy.

• 1:00:03Speaker 15

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• 1:01:30Speaker 12

  Well, we don't have a lot of facts. What happens in these sorts of incidents is typically ICE puts out a press release before anybody else can speak with the press and then it gets reported on social media and elsewhere. Remember, these are the same folks who killed a person, unarmed person, just a couple of weeks ago in Franklin Park. At first, they said that the officer had been threatened with his life. The reality of it and the truth of it has now come out, and that wasn't the case. They killed somebody. So here, it's really hard to know exactly what the facts are, and they won't let us access the facts. They are just putting out their propaganda.

• 1:02:15Speaker 05

  Propaganda.

• 1:02:16Speaker 12

  And then we've got a later.

• 1:02:17Speaker 05

  Like you just did, talking about the person that was killed. So propaganda in Dallas, they're not going on ruse. It's your propaganda, my propaganda's okay. Yeah, and they're not sniping and shooting at ICE agents. It's like this whole attitude of all these leaders that you're talking about, these horrible freaking leaders. Pat, there was a New York Post reported that the chief of patrol, John Hine, gave an order to stand down and not help ICE agents. Okay, do you understand how diabolical that is? Your brother in arms, they need your help, and you're saying, "Oh, guys, you're responding?" Do not respond to that. Okay, it's not going to go well for these guys. Okay, they are doing their jobs, all right? And it's unbelievable, Pat. Like, Chicago, guess how many shootings happened this weekend in Chicago?

• 1:03:02Speaker 05

  There's probably three or four mass shootings. He doesn't care. He doesn't give a damn. He doesn't care, but he can't just say, "Hey, Trump, thank you. Hey, thanks. Thanks for getting people that aren't supposed to be in the country illegally, that I basically told them, 'Hey, come to our city because we're sanctuary.'"

• 1:03:15Patrick Bet-David?

  So here's the question. Here's the question, and Adam, I'm going to come to you. So, the question is the following. What is Pritzker and all these leftist politicians going to do? When the streets of Chicago shuts down crime within two weeks and it's cleaned up. Now, what are you gonna say? He's screwed. What are you gonna say? Actually, think about the optics. He, he, he, the governor. Yes. Is gonna hope for crime to increase when National Guard comes in. Yeah. To say, imagine what psychological issues you have to say. Yep. Kill somebody, crime. Yeah. I'm speculating. Yeah. I'm saying, my opinion is they're gonna be rooting for crime to increase. They know, what did the mayor of DC say? Hey, they kinda cleaned it up within 12 days.

• 1:03:57Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, if they do that in Chicago, what do you think the African-American families who voted for Kamala, all of a sudden gonna be saying? Hey, wait a minute. Yep, it's kinda working, man. Maybe this guy knows what he's doing. Adam?

• 1:04:10Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, well, this is politics. There's no chance that someone like JB Pritzker is gonna be like, you know what? Trump?

• 1:04:15Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right.

• 1:04:16Adam Sosnick?

  We really need your help here, buddy. Like, our city is out of control. And by the way, we've had a Democratic established government here for about 100 years, but we really need your help.

• 1:04:24Patrick Bet-David?

  And my DoorDash was hijacked three times this week.

• 1:04:26Adam Sosnick?

  There's no chance that they're gonna say something like that.

• 1:04:30Patrick Bet-David?

  24 wounded in Chicago just this weekend.

• 1:04:32Adam Sosnick?

  And unfortunately, this is why they call it Chirac, cuz it's like, that's it? Only five people this weekend? Congratulations, your numbers are actually down in Chicago. But let's not pretend everything is just finny dandy here in Chicago. Uh, we're, we're desensitized to just people getting killed, people getting shot every weekend. Chicago, DC, no big deal. By the way, it also happens in Memphis and it happens in certain other cities, Little Rock, what have you, but even in Fort Lauderdale. But there's no secret that the, the, the worst of the worst of the worst is going on in these Democratic sanctuary, uh, strongholds. And Chicago is the tip of the spear. And now JB Pritzker, of all the nonsense that he rattled off,

• 1:05:14Adam Sosnick?

  there was one thing he did say that was accurate when he said, let's focus on the worst of the worst. I agree. I don't wanna see ICE coming in and just jacking somebody's nanny or the gardener. There needs to be a pathway to citizenship for a lot of these people. Cuz if we, how are we gonna deport 10 million people? But if we focus on the worst of the worst of the worst, then that's where I think we'll have some success right there. Now, as far as, Tommy made a comment about.

• 1:05:39Tom Ellsworth?

  They need their George Floyd. A lot of it is accurate.

• 1:05:43Adam Sosnick?

  Exactly.

• 1:05:44Tom Ellsworth?

  And by the way, if you'd volunteer to die for us, we're gonna put you on T-shirts. We're gonna paint you and murals on the side of buildings. Your family will have your memory all over the place. If you'll just be our martyr.

• 1:05:54Adam Sosnick?

  It's sad, but it's that dark. Because if you actually take a compare and contrast to what you would call the left's victim mentality and the right's actual victim in Charlie Kirk versus George Floyd. It's non-comparison, it's actually laughable. George Floyd, you know, peace be upon him, as they say. Habitual line stepper, in and out of jail, problematic, druggie, what have you. Beat his girlfriend, but he's the martyr of the left. Charlie Kirk, who I would literally say is one of the greatest humans I've ever met, to see how his legacy is being trounced on by certain people is pathetic to me.

• 1:06:35Adam Sosnick?

  One of the greatest people ever, and he's being sort of labeled this racist, disgusting person. Charlie was a great person and George Floyd was a shitty person. And it just goes to show whose role models and martyrs each side looks up to.

• 1:06:51Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, so let's get to this next story. So Diddy Combs, Sean Diddy. Combs is, he's found guilty. Rob, if you can pull up the videos on this one, that'd be great. He's found guilty, let me just read this. So after he was found guilty, and I think he has to do what, four years and a half, Rob? Something like that, that he has to do.

• 1:07:10Adam Sosnick?

  Correct, four years.

• 1:07:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Four and a half years, something like that. There was maybe a sentence to just around four years behind bars in criminal case on Friday, but he still faces a mountain of lawsuits accusing him of sexual violence, sexual criminal, sexual violence and other disturbing acts. The nearly seven civil suits will prove to be a headache for Combs as he already faces legal fees in his federal sex crimes case that could easily top $15 million so far. Damn. Experts told The Post lawyers were split on if the Bad Boy Records founder would fight like hell or... Dip into his dwindling estimated $400 million of fortune to quickly pay off his long list of accusers.

• 1:07:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Attorney Nicole Brennike said that it wouldn't shock her if Combs moved to settle many of the claims since the financial impact would be minimal and he would quickly end the continuing headache. But hip hop and celeb attorney Bradford Cohen says the cases he reviewed appear thin and that Combs should fight back. Settling doesn't make sense in the long run because the others are going to want to pursue you even harder now that you once settled one convicted of two prostitution case counts of his Manhattan federal trial. He was still acquitted on the more serious sex trafficking rap. He just got exonerated on multiple felonies. I think he's going to come out stronger than ever, the attorney said. It's a business decision on how much he wants to spend and I'm sure his lawyers are not cheap.

• 1:08:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Now, while this is taking place, okay, Rob, what do you have here?

• 1:08:43Speaker 16

  This is Fox News talking about the appeal process. Diddy's attorneys are going to appeal the sentencing.

• 1:08:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, go for it.

• 1:08:49Speaker 16

  CB Cotton is live in New York City with the latest. Hi, CB.

• 1:08:53Speaker 17

  Hey, Mike. Well, between the years Sean "Diddy" Combs has already spent in jail and the credit he could receive for good behavior, it's possible he's out of prison in two and a half years. But Diddy's defense attorneys are still not satisfied with this prospect.

• 1:09:07Speaker 18

  What we feel happened today was that the judge acted as a 13th juror, one that we did not choose, and that he second guessed the jury's verdict. We think that a jury verdict should mean more than our jury's verdict seems to mean, and so we are planning to appeal.

• 1:09:25Speaker 17

  As part of the judge's four-year sentence, Diddy was also ordered to pay a half a million dollar fine and he'll have five years of supervised release once he's out. For more than four hours yesterday, supporters, defense attorneys, and Diddy's adult children, well, they all pleaded for mercy. Diddy addressed the court himself apologizing and saying his own behavior was disgusting, shameful, and sick. His eight-week trial over the summer accused him of creating a criminal enterprise using fame, fortune, and fear to coerce and sex traffic women into drug-fueled sex parties with male escorts called freak-offs or hotel nights. He was acquitted of the most serious charges-

• 1:10:05Patrick Bet-David?

  He begged the judge for another chance and vowed that he was a changed man. The judge told Diddy, "You abused them physically, emotionally, and psychologically." So, that's that. Now, 50 Cent.

• 1:10:19Speaker 05

  What's he doing there, Pat? Did you see that photo?

• 1:10:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I mean, some of these pictures are.

• 1:10:23Speaker 05

  The other way, other way. Great artist. What is he, what's he doing down there? One more. You had, what's he doing right there?

• 1:10:28Speaker 16

  That's when he was, apparently that is when he received the sentence, he fell to the floor and started banging on his chair crying.

• 1:10:34Speaker 05

  Oh.

• 1:10:34Adam Sosnick?

  Or it could have been a free call from under the table. You don't know what's going on.

• 1:10:37Speaker 16

  By the way, when he goes to prison, let's remember that pose.

• 1:10:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom.

• 1:10:42Speaker 05

  Oh, Jesus.

• 1:10:42Adam Sosnick?

  There's Tom again. Can we make a note for when Tom makes inappropriate comments?

• 1:10:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, no.

• 1:10:47Adam Sosnick?

  Let's just keep score. He's the GOAT.

• 1:10:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, listen, at least one of the things is, it was the first time Tom used the bathroom with seven years.

• 1:10:54Adam Sosnick?

  It's true.

• 1:10:55Speaker 05

  Seven years he had to go.

• 1:10:56Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, let's go through it.

• 1:10:56Adam Sosnick?

  Tom is the Diddy of inappropriate comments.

• 1:10:58Patrick Bet-David?

  While this is going on, while this is going on, Diddy had a speaking gig this week.

• 1:11:04Speaker 05

  Really?

• 1:11:05Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know if you guys are gonna go watch him speak, but he had a speaking gig this week. And 50 Cent wastes no time trolling the 50-month sentence, and he goes out there and says, "Sean Diddy comes to a sentence, 50 cents, 50 months in prison on federal prostitution charges. The rapper, whose real name is Curtis Jackson, posted on X not long after Diddy's sentence was revealed, "offering to take his spot on a upcoming speaking engagement. Hey, to whoever was booking Diddy for speaking engagement, I heard he won't be able to make it. I'm available," 50 Cent wrote, including a link to his website, G-Unit Brands. He was likely referencing speaking engagements that Diddy has booked for next week in Miami, "which the prosecution revealed during the sentencing hearing. The two artists are longtime rivals. I was going back and forth." Is this it, Rob?

• 1:11:49Speaker 16

  Yes.

• 1:11:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Because whoever has booking him, I'll be able to. So, Vinny, what are you thinking with this whole Diddy lawsuit, everything that's going on here?

• 1:11:55Speaker 05

  I mean, I'm just. For all the people, all the castes that were on camera, beaten, all the people that were drugged, that didn't want to be drugged and all that stuff, I think that this is some type of, I mean, four years is at least something, you know what I mean? Because I'm going to be honest with you, I thought for a minute, because Adam, we were talking about this, like, he was going to walk, like, with all the... Tom, were you honestly thinking that he was going to do time? Like, did you actually feel like... I honestly, from everything I was following, I was like, oh, he's going to walk. So, at least a four-year sentence, they're going to appeal whatever, I don't know. He'll probably do, what, two years? Two years? It's not fair, but I want something. There's some accountability where he's going to be, because he's already been in jail for how long now? Has it been a year? So, he'll be, I think altogether, it'll be three years.

• 1:12:39Speaker 05

  I, you know, I would hope for more, but...

• 1:12:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I look at it a couple of different ways. First of all, you can change the headline that said, "Diddy's lawyers refuse to stop billing and are going to appeal till the end of the earth and the return of Christ so they can." There's a lot that goes on in these criminal cases on the legal side. And so, lawyers are like, hey, we're going to appeal this, we're going to appeal this. There are federal sentencing guidelines, and he was guilty of certain crimes. And the judge gave the sentence that was within those guidelines in addition to the time he's already been incarcerated, you know, throughout the trial. So, that's it. The other thing that people are talking about is that, as part of the sentencing process in America,

• 1:13:25Tom Ellsworth?

  you're allowed to, not allowed, but part of it is, you have what's called victim impact statements. And then you also have what's called pretense investigation reports. So, victim impact statements, where the people that were victims can go up there and they can present to the judge their own verbal representations without histrionics of how they were impacted and their fears and things like this. And the judge can consider that, but he's tied to what is he guilty of and what are the federal sentencing guidelines. So, think of those as goalposts, so the judge can decide which side of the goalposts he wants to put the football.

• 1:14:05Tom Ellsworth?

  So 50 Cent also came in and said, "I am a relevant party. I have been at odds with him. I have felt for it." And I think we have it here somewhere. Some of the, um, the words. Uh, look at this. "I've had an ongoing dispute." This is a quote from 50 Cent that this is, this has been posted online. This is allegedly the exact words used by 50 Cent. If this posting, um, is correct. "I've had an ongoing dispute with Puffy for over 20 years. He's very dangerous. Multiple times have feared for my life. I think you should consider the safety of the general public, Your Honor, before unleashing, unleashing him upon them. There hasn't been enough time for him." And now this is his opinion, but he's expressing-

• 1:14:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Wait, what he says later, his son, who's dealing with his own rape allegations, claimed that the feds had hit the wrong house.

• 1:14:56Tom Ellsworth?

  Huh.

• 1:14:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Anyway, Diddy's only going to return to hiring more male sex workers and keeping most of the baby all away from the general public. And babies needed. My next slide is coming.

• 1:15:06Tom Ellsworth?

  So, yeah.

• 1:15:07Adam Sosnick?

  By the way, 50 Cent is trolling everybody. You can't take this as a-

• 1:15:12Tom Ellsworth?

  But the, the interesting thing here is-

• 1:15:14Adam Sosnick?

  As a true, uh, character-

• 1:15:17Tom Ellsworth?

  This is a normal, you may laugh at the last part, and the last part is kinda funny. But the, the whole point of this is the judge hears this, and then the judge-

• 1:15:27Adam Sosnick?

  Trust me, bro, here's a joke that's basically what this is- Well, he's a troll too.

• 1:15:29Tom Ellsworth?

  And then the, then the judge says, "I will now hear from friends and family of the defendant." And that's where the defendant, you only have one thing to say. Whether you're lying or not, you have to say, "Oh, this trial and everything has hit me so hard. I've reconsidered all this. What a disgusting reflection I can finally see in the mirror of life." And, you know, you're reading a statement basically prepared, uh, uh, by the judge. However, the judge has had the benefit of the witnesses, the benefit of the trial itself, and seen the demeanor of, of Diddy throughout the course of it. And so I think it's rather interesting, um, that 50 Cent presents certain, you know, facts of his opinion and then chooses to troll at the end of it. But this is a normal part of our process.

• 1:16:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Statements get to be made and the judge takes them all into account before looking at the federal guidelines and saying, "Here's the guidelines, here's what he's actually guilty of, and I can put you left or right in those guidelines based on other things."

• 1:16:24Adam Sosnick?

  Well said, Tom. Well- Uh, look, here's what Michael Chev, SNL had to say. He goes, listen, regarding Diddy, it's really hard to, uh, watch somebody I love get punished. But hey, that's what Diddy would do. So Diddy has been found guilty for four years, uh, that he's going to be in jail. Now let's understand what he's been found guilty of. Two counts of transportation to engage in prostitution, but he was not found guilty. He was acquitted of sex trafficking and Rico charges, which we know, um, the mafia is all about here.

• 1:16:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Working with a group.

• 1:16:59Adam Sosnick?

  He's definitely guilty of lots of baby oil, lots of freak offs and some sexual abuse. But I also have a, um, a prognosis, a, uh, a hypothesis, a prediction. I think in about three years, the hottest, biggest podcast guest is going to be Diddy. This guy's going to come out of jail, whether it's in two years or four years, and everybody's going to want to hear from him. The fact that he was about to go on some speaking tour in Miami is just sort of a telltale sign of what's going to happen here. And by the way, how quickly we all move on. Do you know when Diddy was, uh, found guilty? July 2nd. So basically three months ago. Have you heard Diddy's name in the news once in the last

• 1:17:40Adam Sosnick?

  three months? I've heard very little of Diddy. It just goes to show you, the media controls the narrative. They punch us all out there. All of a sudden, Diddy's back in the news. We'll go back in the jail. People won't think about him. Then he'll come back out again and everyone's going to want Diddy on the podcast.

• 1:17:54Tom Ellsworth?

  You've covered the case. He's guilty. You're waiting for the sentence. What more can you talk about?

• 1:17:58Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah. Well, uh, everyone was very, very preoccupied with Diddy.

• 1:18:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Kind of puts you in your place. This is what, what Tom just did.

• 1:18:06Adam Sosnick?

  Take that, take that.

• 1:18:07Patrick Bet-David?

  That's, that's called.

• 1:18:08Adam Sosnick?

  I'll meet you under the desk.

• 1:18:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. They, no, he puts you on your place. You can go under the desk if you want.

• 1:18:12Adam Sosnick?

  He puts you there.

• 1:18:13Patrick Bet-David?

  He puts you on, you know, so anyways, let's go to next door here. Next door I want to go to is, um, there's this guy, like I was saying earlier, this guy's a, when, when the biggest highlight of your career is bumping into your center as an NFL quarterback playing for the Jets, maybe he wanted to kind of outdo that highlight. But this is not the way to do it, Mark Sanchez.

• 1:18:35Adam Sosnick?

  Jeez, no.

• 1:18:36Patrick Bet-David?

  This is just not the way to do it. Was known as the best looking guy in the NFL. Is that it, Rob? I don't even know if we can play that. Look at that. Look at that right there.

• 1:18:45Adam Sosnick?

  The butt fumble?

• 1:18:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at this. Boom. Okay. Look at, okay. Boom. Boom.

• 1:18:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh my God.

• 1:18:52Patrick Bet-David?

  You pause that right there, Rob.

• 1:18:53Speaker 05

  Oh, man.

• 1:18:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Hey, a different guy has the ball now.

• 1:18:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. So anyways, Mark Sanchez had a rough weekend, to say the least. I mean, I don't want to like underestimate what happened there. This is truly a qualified rough weekend that he had. If you want to kind of tell the audience, Vinny, what happened, I'm going to turn it over to you.

• 1:19:12Speaker 05

  Okay, so, all right, so on Saturday, mind you, I think, pretty sure Mark Sanchez is in Indianapolis, because who did Indianapolis play this weekend? Was it the Ravens? He's working, he works for Fox, he's a contributor. Apparently, allegedly, he's at one of, he's at a bar, it's midnight, and he's, from what the reports are saying, he's doing wind sprints in the alley, okay?

• 1:19:35Tom Ellsworth?

  What?

• 1:19:35Speaker 05

  I'm not even joking, guys, and I don't even want to make light of this, but, so a 69-year-old grease truck driver shows up.

• 1:19:45Tom Ellsworth?

  What?

• 1:19:45Speaker 05

  Adam, and he's blocking, he's in the alley, because guess what he's doing, Adam? His job, okay? He's doing his job.

• 1:19:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Come on, a grease truck is, they come at the end of the night and take all the...

• 1:19:54Speaker 05

  All the used grease?

• 1:19:55Tom Ellsworth?

  All the oil and everything out of the fryer, he's doing his job, it's late, restaurants close, he comes, does the rounds, basically picking up garbage, which is old grease.

• 1:20:03Speaker 05

  Old grease, not a freaking great job, but apparently this driver's 69, he has hearing aids, they're out because the truck is really, really loud and messing with his ears. So Sanchez, according to police, walks up to the guy's truck in the alley, behind the two hotels downtown, opens the guy's truck door and starts an argument, because hey, you're doing wind sprints at midnight, whatever. The driver says Sanchez was drunk, slurring words, smelled like booze, and it got worse. There's a video that shows him chasing the old guy, a 70-year-old guy. Grabbing him.

• 1:20:33Patrick Bet-David?

  There's a video.

• 1:20:34Speaker 05

  There's a video, we have, no, we don't have the video, but that's what the cops are saying. There's a video apparently showing, that's how they arrested him inside the hospital. They grab him, shove him against the wall by a dumpster, so, and now this is the reports, that the guy felt threatened, pepper straight Sanchez, okay? Sanchez keeps coming, the guy stabs him. The 70-year-old stabs Sanchez a bunch of times and says it's self-defense. So Sanchez goes in the hospital. With stab wounds, upper body, stable condition. He was in critical condition for a minute. And the old guy walks in with a cut in his face. Can we show, guys, look at what the altercation with Sanchez? Look at what this, imagine your grandfather is trying to do a grease truck.

• 1:21:18Tom Ellsworth?

  That's not a cut. He's gashed from his.

• 1:21:21Speaker 05

  By the way, Sanchez had a knife or this guy had a knife? This guy had a knife, but from what it looks like Sanchez might have gotten a hold of it. Cause he stabbed him so hard, it went through his cheek and cut his tongue. Okay, and now Sanchez is facing three charges. Battery causing injury, unlawful entry to a motor vehicle. He went in this guy's cab. Okay, and public intoxication. Alright, and now here's my thing that I, and again, this is coming from a guy that, you know, used to drink and get aggressive and bars and stuff like that. This, he needs help. Like if you're at the point where you're getting drunk, and you're doing that to a 70-year-old guy that is just doing his job. There is something deeper. I think he needs freaking genuine help because listen, we've all been drunk, we've all had fun.

• 1:22:03Speaker 05

  If a guy's blocking an alley because you're doing wind sprints at midnight, and you do that, that's the altercation you have. There's something deeper.

• 1:22:10Tom Ellsworth?

  He's not blocking an alley, he's driving in an alley to do his job.

• 1:22:13Speaker 05

  Exactly.

• 1:22:14Tom Ellsworth?

  And he's blocking you from using this alley while you're drunk after midnight to do wind sprints.

• 1:22:18Speaker 05

  Yeah, exactly. So I think it's, I think it's something deeper. Is this a witness rob? Uh, yes. What, what is he saying? Here.

• 1:22:25Speaker 19

  Just up the road, so I followed them up and stayed across the street to see what was going on.

• 1:22:32Speaker 20

  According to police, Sanchez and the unnamed driver had an argument about where the truck was parked. At some point Sanchez tried to get into the truck and even shoved the driver as the driver was trying to flag security. It escalated into a fight in which the victim pepper sprayed and later stabbed Sanchez multiple times. A short time after getting to the alley, Loughlin saw both men carried off on gurneys.

• 1:22:53Speaker 19

  The second person, they brought him out of the alley here on the gurney and he was setting up on the gurney and had a towel wrapped all the way around his head.

• 1:23:01Speaker 20

  Loughlin saw the delivery truck backed into the dock and says there was enough room for a car to pass by. According to court documents, security footage shows Sanchez throwing the driver into the dumpster and nearby pallets.

• 1:23:14Speaker 05

  What is that? What are you doing?

• 1:23:15Speaker 19

  At first, I just didn't want to believe that it was him.

• 1:23:17Speaker 20

  Sanchez reportedly told police he didn't know what happened and could only remember grabbing for a window at a nearby pub. Loughlin recalls seeing someone come out of the business, not knowing it was Sanchez at the time.

• 1:23:27Speaker 19

  You don't think you're gonna see somebody, you know, recognizable in something like this?

• 1:23:32Speaker 20

  In a statement, Marion County Prosecutor Ryan Mears condemned the incident, adding in part, "What began as a disagreement between a 38-year-old former professional athlete and a 69-year-old man should not have escalated into violence or left anyone seriously injured."

• 1:23:45Speaker 05

  Hold on, the 69-year-old is doing his job. He's backing in there to do, and on top of that, a crappy job, okay? And what the hell is Sanchez doing? Like, what? You're in town to work for the NFL, for Fox or whatever. You're doing a reporting thing. What the hell kind of mentality goes in your head? That's Tom, that's, that's something, like I said, that's way deeper than just alcoholism and blacking out.

• 1:24:09Patrick Bet-David?

  So he got a misdemeanor charge, battery with injury, unlawful entry of vehicle and public intoxication. He was later released from the hospital and taken to jail. Bond was reported at 300. His initial court appearance scheduled to be Tuesday following the incident.

• 1:24:24Speaker 05

  And you know why he got arrested? Because they showed them, they showed, like, people like, what's going on? Here's a video. He, the guy's doing his job and you don't like where he's parked? Who the hell is Mark Sanchez? You're not, you're not security. You're not working for the damn building. He didn't like it and he got in the car.

• 1:24:38Tom Ellsworth?

  I think the headline, Vinny, is, what was he thinking according to the allegations? According to the allegations and the police who saw some camera footage, and then they see the wounds on people and they investigate everything, whatever security cameras they've got, and the police, these are the charges. He hasn't been found guilty, but these are the charges, the allegations. And you can certainly step back from this and say, what the hell are you thinking? Might you need some help? Is this, what are you hanging out at a bar?

• 1:25:03Speaker 05

  At midnight.

• 1:25:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Completely blotto when you're on, on location for this? Might, I think that suggests that I would agree with you. If these allegations are true, and this is all that's coming down, it really suggests that, that maybe there's something going on inside Mark Sanchez that he needs to get some help.

• 1:25:19Speaker 05

  Hundred percent. I, I agree.

• 1:25:21Adam Sosnick?

  Dude, so imagine you're just the average person following sports over the weekend and you go on to ESPN like I did and it was like, Mark Sanchez stabbed and hospitalized. You're like, oh man, like, I know Mark Sanchez, what's going on here? And then the next day it's like, yeah, Mark Sanchez arrested. I was like, what?

• 1:25:39Speaker 05

  What happened?

• 1:25:41Adam Sosnick?

  And they came in and arrested him while he was in the hospital.

• 1:25:43Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:25:43Adam Sosnick?

  So you're like, what, this is why you never jump to conclusions?

• 1:25:46Speaker 05

  Ever.

• 1:25:46Adam Sosnick?

  And it's like, what is going on here? So in my opinion, this is what's happening. Mark Sanchez is in Indianapolis because he's going to call the game on Sunday against the Ravens. By the way, they beat the crap, I'm sorry, the Raiders, they beat the crap out of the Raiders 40 to six. Culture looking good. He's supposed to try the game. But you know, they say in the, in sports, you know, you don't got to get ready if you stay ready. Here's Mark Sanchez drunk at midnight, running wind sprints because they might have a backup quarterback problem in Indy one of these days. And next thing you know, he gets called up to be the third stringer and he's just staying ready. Meanwhile, this guy pulls up in a truck, just, hey, I'm here to clean out the grease. Not on my turf, buddy. And they get into a Jets versus Sharks wet side story, shank off fight with a knife?

• 1:26:30Adam Sosnick?

  And it leads both of them to the hospital? It's just so dumb. And the last comment that the guy said is like, this should never have happened. Now, they say that life is a series of decisions and consequences. What the hell are you doing? Doing Irish car bombs and running wind sprints in the back of a hotel? What's going on here? What are you thinking?

• 1:26:49Speaker 05

  It doesn't, I mean.

• 1:26:50Adam Sosnick?

  But it just goes to show that guy's face is cut off. You don't know what's going on with Mark Sanchez? I'll tell, I'll tell a quick story. This is, this happens to do with drinking. I'm at Florida State. This is my sophomore year and it's a Friday afternoon and my, and my buddy goes, I have some friends coming to town this weekend. We're going to get pissed drunk, we're going to have a time of our lives. All right, good, have, have fun, buddy. This guy, his buddy shows up, I swear to God, this changed my life forever. Buddy shows up, he goes, "What's up, man? Let's pound some beers." So he's drinking some beers. I'm not a big beer guy, I'm just watching him. Some girl walks in, she goes, "Some guy upstairs called me a bitch." And I don't think he... He goes, "What? Let me show him what's up." This guy doesn't know anybody. He came to visit school for the weekend. He runs up to this guy's room, busts in the door, he goes,

• 1:27:33Adam Sosnick?

  "Yo, did you call my friend a bitch?" He walks in the door, the guy takes a beer bottle, because he came in his room, smashes it on this guy's head. He doesn't know this guy. This guy's now in a gash from here to here, because he wanted to be tough on a visit to Florida State. You don't know what you're gonna get up into. Nope. And it just goes to show, you do stupid things, you know, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Mark Sanchez is playing stupid games in the back of a hotel alley, running wind sprints, gets stabbed by a grease fry cook.

• 1:28:00Patrick Bet-David?

  But did we hear any stories of him dealing with alcohol or drugs?

• 1:28:03Adam Sosnick?

  Never. No, that's the point. Is that one stupid decision can change your life.

• 1:28:09Tom Ellsworth?

  If it's one stupid decision, great. But if there's something back there, then friends and family have an opportunity.

• 1:28:14Adam Sosnick?

  So Mark Sanchez is known for the...

• 1:28:16Patrick Bet-David?

  I think maybe there's something there, I don't know what that is.

• 1:28:18Adam Sosnick?

  Mark Sanchez is known for the butt fumble? And now getting stabbed by a 69-year-old dude while he's doing wind sprints in an alley.

• 1:28:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Did he play for USC or UCLA? He was a USC guy, right? He was somebody that people thought he was gonna do something.

• 1:28:29Adam Sosnick?

  After Carlson Palmer, I would say.

• 1:28:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Alright, let's get to the next story here. Next story I want to get to...

• 1:28:33Adam Sosnick?

  Stud of a guy, though.

• 1:28:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Next story I want to get to is, uh, what happened here with, uh, uh, uh, mayoral race in New York with Mamdani? So Chris Cuomo calls out and rips hypocrite Zohran Mamdani for owning Uganda land while championing abolition, abolition of private property. Rob, do you have that clip of Cuomo? So, I don't know if there's a clip or not, but I think you either tweet it, or there was a video of it, if you want to find it. So Mamdani, who on the outside, has a lot of ideologies. He says he's a democratic socialist, but he's got some words he uses that has to do with words that Karl Marx used in communism.

• 1:29:20Patrick Bet-David?

  But here's Chris Cuomo, socials New York City mayor Zorah Mamdani is a hypocrite for owning Luker Lama, Uganda, while cosplaying on the campaign trail as a working class savior. Ex-Governor Andrew Cuomo told the Post, being a wealthy landowner with foreign investments while holding a rent stabilized apartment in the tightest housing market in the nation is the height of hypocrisy, said Cuomo, who's running as an independent and polling second behind frontrunner Mamdani in a mayoral race. Zorah Mamdani can call himself a working class champion all he wants, but it's just an act from an award winning director's son. Working men and women don't live in mansions with armed guards and have family homes around the world oligarch sons do. Zorah Mamdani is a mansion boy living off family's wealth. I don't know, Rob, is there a clip of that or no?

• 1:30:05Speaker 16

  No, I believe he told the Post this, so it was an interview.

• 1:30:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Got it. So the 33 year old Queens Assemblyman who has pushed for the abolition of private property reported in recent state and city financial disclosure filings that he owned vacant land in Jinja, Uganda, valued at 100,000 to 250,000 dollars since 2012. His high flying parents, Columbia University professor Mahmud Mamdani and Mansoon wedding filmmaker Miranayer also own a breathtaking five bedroom, four bathroom villa in Uganda overlooking Lake Victoria that's been renting out an Airbnb for the last eight years. So that's the property there?

• 1:30:44Speaker 16

  Yep.

• 1:30:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, that's the property. So, but you do have the, so while this is taking place, Tom, is there anything between now? Cause what month is it? We're now in October. So what do they say happens in October? They call it surprise. Today's the 5th. The election is exactly four weeks and one day from today. Okay? Four weeks and one day because it's what? Four weeks, Monday, one day, Tuesday, November 4th. That's what I think it falls on. Is there anything that can happen the next four weeks, Tom? For Mam Donnie to lose anything.

• 1:31:17Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't think so. Short of Curtis, and I'm talking about the Republican candidate. Yep, and short of him dropping out and there being such a resurgence toward Cuomo. There, I mean, it's gotta be big. You have to have a dropout and you have to have more than a October surprise. You need an October nuclear surprise. And I think this is very telling. And this is where Chris Cuomo is being a news guy, doing research and on things. And then Cuomo, Andrew Cuomo, coming out and calling him, calling him out on these things.

• 1:31:58Tom Ellsworth?

  And there's things going on here that I think are just not enough. I just don't think it's gonna get there, Pat. And Andrew Cuomo, in a related story, he actually apologized to people for COVID. So Cuomo is doing, Andrew that is, is doing everything he can to say, hey, I'm sorry, I really apologize for this to, and I think he was speaking specifically to Jewish New Yorkers, if I'm correct, Adam, he was speaking to that audience very specifically. And they're calling this guy out for being, you know, a mansion boy who has got this, these, these thoughts, and this is what he wants to do, but he's really come from, come from nothing. I don't think it's gonna move it. Are we gonna tighten up, Pat? Could it

• 1:32:43Tom Ellsworth?

  be five points or seven points? I think it could, but I don't think he can get past that.

• 1:32:48Patrick Bet-David?

  And Andrew Cuomo came out and apologized to the Jewish New Yorkers for COVID-19 lockdown. Rob, is this it? Yes, sir. Go for it.

• 1:32:56Speaker 21

  My friends, as we approach Yom Kippur, the holiest day of the year, we are reminded this is a time of reflection, of forgiveness, and of recommitting ourselves to do even better.

• 1:33:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Of course.

• 1:33:08Speaker 21

  That is true for all of us. And it's true for our leaders as well. During COVID, as governor, I made decisions with the best of intentions to protect health and save lives. However, I recognize that some of those decisions caused pain in the Jewish community because we did not always fully consider the sensitivities and traditions that are so deeply important. We could have done better, and for that, I am truly sorry.

• 1:33:38Speaker 21

  My intentions don't change the impact, and I sincerely ask for your understanding. On this holy day of atonement, I am committed to learning from these lessons. Today, Jewish New Yorkers face another challenge, the rise of antisemitism. It is real, it is dangerous, and it must be confronted. An attack on the Jewish community is an attack on every New Yorker, because we are one family, the family of New York. Yeah, right. I stand with you.

• 1:34:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, you can pause. Adam, how do you feel about what he's saying?

• 1:34:15Adam Sosnick?

  Well, that was a nice little hostage, reading a script by Governor Cuomo. Now, as much as I...

• 1:34:22Speaker 05

  It seemed to lack warmth, didn't it?

• 1:34:24Adam Sosnick?

  That's true, Tom. As much as I enjoy Chris Cuomo...

• 1:34:27Speaker 05

  It lacked warmth. He was just reading from the table.

• 1:34:30Adam Sosnick?

  As much as I like Chris Cuomo, Andrew Cuomo is a dead man walking. I don't mean literally, guys, but you know they say you can't teach an old dog new tricks? This is a very old political dog, and it's just very obvious, reading this sort of like staged letter. "I apologize to the Jewish community on the holiest day..." Like, stop it. At the very least, learn something from what Mom Donnie's got going on. He's a charismatic, young leader who's thriving on the social media world, and Andrew Cuomo is reading scripted letters still in 2025, when people want authenticity. Now, is Mom Donnie authentic? You better believe it.

• 1:35:13Adam Sosnick?

  Is he, does he want to authentically globalize the Antifa? Yes. Is he a democratic socialist? Yes. Is he secretly some sort of capitalist that owns property in Uganda, as if that's like the Hamptons? Yeah, he's a social justice warrior, and he's going to win this election. I think the poly market odds are, I don't know, 85% or so. Andrew Cuomo, thank you for serving your state, for your city, your country. Your time is done. You've got 30 more days of being relevant. Respect to you. The fact that you haven't done podcasts all over the country is a glaring weakness. It's like the Kamala Harris approach. What are you doing, bro? Can't wait for your book to come out.

• 1:35:54Adam Sosnick?

  Anyway, as far as what Mom Donnie stands for, it just all sounds great. But we've seen this a million times, whether it's Bernie or AOC.

• 1:36:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so here's what I'm saying.

• 1:36:04Adam Sosnick?

  And now him, he's got a math problem.

• 1:36:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Andrew Cuomo said he will take a endorsement from Eric Adams, but he will not take an endorsement from Donald Trump.

• 1:36:12Adam Sosnick?

  Why do you think that is?

• 1:36:13Patrick Bet-David?

  So he just said that to Kristen Walker two days ago, three days ago. So here's the part, like that was the only chance he had.

• 1:36:19Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 1:36:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Because if Trump would have called in to say, New Yorkers, we gotta get behind Andrew Cuomo. That is literally the last shot he had, and he gave that up. I don't know, and then when you watch a clip like this,

• 1:36:38Patrick Bet-David?

  look, you know how you have the good guy, bad guy, like who's in your ear, right? That's telling, there's one side that I'm like, oh dude, I can't wait for Mamdani to win, for people to see what's gonna happen, how shitty this is gonna be, right? And then the other side of me is like, I freaking love New York. We go to New York, we're hoping to go to Yankees game, but this, listen, I have to tell you, I don't know, the last time I had this much animosity towards Canadians was Pierre Poliev. I haven't been this upset towards Canadians since Pierre Poliev. And Pierre Poliev, who won the worst candidates ever, who was talented, apple-eating candidate, who was a great speaker, but was lazy to pompous, arrogant to go sit down and talk to the regular, average, day-to-day people

• 1:37:22Patrick Bet-David?

  he didn't want to do because he thought he was better than you.

• 1:37:25Adam Sosnick?

  He disappeared, too.

• 1:37:26Patrick Bet-David?

  And so Toronto decides to play the Yankees and do what they do. Toronto, I don't like you right now. And Vladimir Guerrero, screw you with your grand slam homerun you put up there going six for seven.

• 1:37:37Adam Sosnick?

  I think Adam made a great point.

• 1:37:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, I'm sorry, Tom. I don't appreciate you interrupting me.

• 1:37:41Adam Sosnick?

  Tom.

• 1:37:42Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't like what happened with Toronto. And, and I'm not happy what happened there, Tom. As good of a point as he made, I'm moving on to the next story.

• 1:37:50Adam Sosnick?

  That's true, man.

• 1:37:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, next story that we need to get to. Is, uh, uh, I don't know whether I go to this one or to this one. Both of them are good stories. Which one should I go to? Go to that one. Did you have the one with the viewership? Is that what you had, Rob? Uh, yes, I just sent you something as well. Okay, let me see. Oh, is that the one we're talking about? Yep. Uh, uh, uh, okay. I love it. Fantastic. Okay, so let's go through this. So, check this out, folks. Some very, very interesting data that will surprise you. But hang tight, because after I give you this interesting data, there's a small media company that not a lot of people are paying attention to that, you know, but the people in media space kind of now want to share with you what happened with them. Watch this. Fox News dominates news brands Bingo.

• 1:38:33Patrick Bet-David?

  with 1.1 billion YouTube views during Q3. And everybody in the marketplace is talking about it, okay? Everybody's talking about this, what Fox News did. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody, club, get into it, see, but, so, right, so, Everybody in the club. So, let's, let's read this. Let's read the story if I can find the right page, and I can read it to you. So, here, here we are, all right? So, number one brand on YouTube with more than 1 billion video views. Fox Now News led the runner-up MSNBC by 200 million views. Videos shown also topped NBC News, ABC News, CBS News combined, damn! Damn. During the news-heavy third quarter, Fox News grew 45% compared to last year,

• 1:39:18Patrick Bet-David?

  uh, to pile up 1.1 billion views, uh, compared to 848 to MSNBC, 627 to CNN, 427, 424 to NBC, and 359 for ABC, and 163 for CBS. Uh, according to Amplify, it was the fourth consecutive quarter that Fox News surpassed all news brands. Fox News finished the quarter strong with 408 million views. Just a shellacking. Is the way to put it. I don't even know if that word is a proper word here or not. Uh, uh, we're dealing with a limited amount of vocabulary, but I think shellacking would be appropriate, Vinny.

• 1:39:52Speaker 05

  It's a good word. That's actually a really strong word.

• 1:39:54Patrick Bet-David?

  So if you look at this though, Tom, there is a small media company. And by the way, folks, can you do me a favor? If you guys love the way Tom's been dressing up lately, this is brought to you by Stefano Ritchie. Tom is looking so good that every day we're done with the podcast, there's 10 girls waiting for him that are former.

• 1:40:12Speaker 05

  Throwing themselves.

• 1:40:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Foreman, foreman woman that were working on projects of general contractors.

• 1:40:16Speaker 05

  Jumping on his car.

• 1:40:16Patrick Bet-David?

  They're saying, Tom, busy dog. But anyways, go back to the story. Watch this. Watch this here. So the numbers, there's a small media company, a small little media company. That is competing with some of these other guys and watch what these guys are putting up, Rob. Can you pull up this other number here? Because we at ValueTainment also had a record-breaking quarter.

• 1:40:37Speaker 05

  Weird.

• 1:40:37Patrick Bet-David?

  On YouTube alone. Look at that right there. Okay? So Fox was 1.1 billion, MSNBC was 848 million. VT and PBD Podcast, 692 million. By the way, if we put VT Comedy, we're number one. Okay?

• 1:40:52Speaker 05

  That's what I was just gonna say. Okay, alright, we'll separate.

• 1:40:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Cause Vinny alone with comedy probably destroyed a couple of these guys as well himself. But watch this. VT and PBD Podcast.

• 1:41:03Speaker 05

  Wow.

• 1:41:03Patrick Bet-David?

  We beat CNN by 70 million views. 65 million views. NBC 424, ABC 359, and CBS, we nearly 5X'd CBS. Think about it.

• 1:41:19Speaker 05

  If you really think about, that is insane. We're just stuck there in the little middle.

• 1:41:23Patrick Bet-David?

  YouTube, okay? Talk about YouTube, okay? 692 million views and we just wanted to say thank you.

• 1:41:30Speaker 05

  Oh, big time.

• 1:41:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Because it wouldn't happen without you. And thanks to the whole team that's working. But by the way, folks, you have to realize. When I tell you we're just getting started, I'm literally telling you we're just getting started. FYI. If you guys have anybody, Tom and I are gonna be doing one segment per week of the three podcasts that we're doing per week. One of them, we're thinking about making it business only. If you have anybody that you know on the business side, we would like to bring a big name with us to talk business stories on a weekly basis, because next year, the Vault, we're holding it at MGM Grand Arena. I was just in Las Vegas a few days ago, coming back, and we have a big vision of what we want to do with Vault Conference by 2030. If there's anyone you have that's a business content creator, let us know. We're interested. We're hiring talent right now, left and right. Her take, Rob,

• 1:42:16Patrick Bet-David?

  you know the Her Take link, if you can put it below as well. We are hiring right now aggressively. We're looking for strong talent. If you know anybody, tell us about it. We are definitely looking for some good people.

• 1:42:28Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, if I was running a political campaign, and maybe I was behind, and I saw a chart like this, oh, never mind, I'm just thinking out loud.

• 1:42:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so Tom, that takes me to the next story, which is a very interesting story that I'm sure you want to talk about. Pornhub suffers 50% drop in UK traffic after age restriction added.

• 1:42:49Tom Ellsworth?

  I warned them.

• 1:42:52Patrick Bet-David?

  We're talking about viewership, and I think viewership, while people are watching more Fox News and MSNBC and VT, people are watching fewer porn in UK. Now, that could be the reason for the crime. Many, some people are speculating, but who knows what's going on here. So let me read this to you. Online traffic for pornography has plummeted in the UK after new age verification laws were put in place over the summer since July 25th. Porn users, to all the public porn users in England, Scotland, and Wales, as well, let's not forget about Northern Ireland, must

• 1:43:31Patrick Bet-David?

  prove they are 18 or older by uploading identity documents, credit card information, or selfie that uses facial recognition technology to guess their age. Did you hear about this?

• 1:43:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes.

• 1:43:44Patrick Bet-David?

  You're about to watch porn, you're like, alright.

• 1:43:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Say cheese!

• 1:43:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Years old.

• 1:43:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 1:43:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Pornhub, the most visited adult website in the world, suffered a staggering 50% plummet. I thought it was gonna be 90%, to be honest with you. I said 50 to 90. This is the exact idea I was proposing. And the Pornhub owners were not okay about it. And I said, 50% or more than 1 million visitors, according to the Australian Broadcasting Company, Hannah Swirsky, the head of Policy and Public Affairs at the Internet Watch Foundation, a nonprofit that works to eradicate child sexual exploitation online, told the outlet that the regulators have been effective, the regulator have been very clear that self-declaration, so just ticking a box to say that you're above 18

• 1:44:33Patrick Bet-David?

  is not a highly effective form of age assurance, she said. Children were often raising the issue of involuntarily seeing harmful content, such as pornography, online, and this also makes it a lot harder. They're talking about like difficult, it's a bad word.

• 1:44:48Speaker 05

  A lot more difficult.

• 1:44:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Online that it also makes it a lot difficult, I'm changing the word, if you are trying to seek this material out. So, by the way, because of this, Playboy Magazine and old Hustler magazines are on fire in UK right now. It's eBay, people are buying. People are buying and selling them. But let me tell you, let me tell you, I don't know if we can find the clip or not. This is exactly when I talked to the Pornhub owners that came in, the rabbi. Remember when I was having that conversation with the guy?

• 1:45:15Speaker 05

  He's a rabbi?

• 1:45:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes. Yeah. So, when I had the guy on and I said, why don't you guys require people to put IDs? If you're telling me, because a lot, the question I was asking is, how do you know the porn stars in these movies and these videos are over 18? Well, we know because of XYZ. Why don't you just ID all of them? No, we can't do that because X. So, this is the problem with this time. When you look at this, you as an expert yourself, like you're watching data, viewership that comes in. What do you say about the story?

• 1:45:46Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, first of all, this is, this is finally coming to the internet what had been in place in other ways. You know, Kids who go to 7-Eleven or whatever, try buy Playboy if you weren't 18, they wouldn't let you buy it, right? And you wouldn't let you get that. And the internet just gave everybody access to it. And this is why parents have been, you know, really freaking out, especially when Facebook was caught doing deliberate manipulations to put certain content in front of young girls. And parents were saying, and that wasn't pornographic content, that was comparative content. And girls were feeling very depressed about their image, they don't get as much likes. And that was leading to documentation about teenage suicides.

• 1:46:30Tom Ellsworth?

  So what happens online is not good. There's a lot of things that are not good. And one of the things people have been talking about, and Florida did it, Florida has an age requirement. If you're trying to log in in Florida, I don't know how they do it. If it senses that you're at an IP address, it's in Florida zip code, I suppose.

• 1:46:50Tom Ellsworth?

  You're not supposed to be allowed to see certain things in Florida. And I think that Pornhub is now seen in the UK, and the UK has said, okay, enough of this. We want the age restriction in place. Here's how we're gonna make, find out if you're viewing it from the UK, and you have to do all this. And you tell me a kid that's gonna, a 19-year-old kid is not gonna take a selfie, upload his driver's license and a credit card later, information that can be hacked. So somebody hacks the porn site later and has all this customer information, and it publishes a list of who's who and what you like watching? No, no, no one's gonna do that. So it has an effect of, having a positive effect, taking the underage viewership away, at least we hope.

• 1:47:35Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, and I think they're discovering that when you're trying to, you know, put some big marketing thrust to increase your sales. Whoa, Tom. And penetrate the youth market, and you're unsuccessful. You're gonna see your sales go down, and you're gonna take a shortcut.

• 1:47:51Speaker 05

  Because I'm sorry, because I have to take a step back. The owner of Pornhub is a rabbi? And who's the girl next to him that I saw rocking a cross on her chest? Who was that?

• 1:48:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Wait, you don't, you never watched this interview?

• 1:48:04Speaker 05

  I was, I didn't.

• 1:48:05Patrick Bet-David?

  She's a nun. No, she's not a nun.

• 1:48:07Speaker 05

  No, no, but I'm just curious, and the Jewish.

• 1:48:09Tom Ellsworth?

  And then there's an Imam right there that's running the town.

• 1:48:10Speaker 05

  Hold on, I'm curious, I'm dead serious. Is that cool for a rabbi to own, like, a porn? No, I'm just saying in general, like.

• 1:48:18Patrick Bet-David?

  This is owner. This is who we had on.

• 1:48:19Speaker 05

  Solomon Fr- what?

• 1:48:20Patrick Bet-David?

  He's the owner, yeah. He's a lawyer?

• 1:48:22Speaker 05

  I swear to you, I had no idea. I don't know rabbis. I swear to you.

• 1:48:25Patrick Bet-David?

  You've never seen this interview? He's a criminal lawyer. Okay, you have to watch this interview.

• 1:48:28Speaker 05

  I'm going to, number one, but number two, a rabbi is a religious guy.

• 1:48:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, you have to, and no, but hang on a second. I asked him all those questions. You should go watch it.

• 1:48:37Speaker 05

  I swear to you, I want to watch it.

• 1:48:38Patrick Bet-David?

  You should go wa- it's actually such an interesting interview.

• 1:48:42Speaker 05

  Okay, and who's the girl sitting next to him?

• 1:48:43Patrick Bet-David?

  A girl is somebody that's been with him for many, many years.

• 1:48:46Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 1:48:47Patrick Bet-David?

  When I bought it, they, when I watched it, they had just bought it. It's not like they've owned it for 15 years.

• 1:48:52Speaker 05

  Got you, yeah, yeah.

• 1:48:53Patrick Bet-David?

  They had just bought it and they, you know, the, the, the, the company was going through challenges. They saw this as an opportunity to clean it up and be able to, so they added new technology to it. Yeah, Rob, but do you remember some of the stuff that I said in the conversation with this guy? Did you find it or no? This is crazy.

• 1:49:07Speaker 05

  I think I found a portion. Hang on one second. I'm going to watch it tonight.

• 1:49:11Patrick Bet-David?

  So a lawyer owns it and then he's got Rabbi Beck Booty, you know, on his staff. You're gonna love this interview.

• 1:49:17Speaker 05

  And she's about, I'm not, I'm not pointing, I'm just pointing out, and she's wearing a cross on her neck.

• 1:49:21Patrick Bet-David?

  That, that, that made it very uncomfortable.

• 1:49:22Speaker 05

  That's weird, bro.

• 1:49:23Patrick Bet-David?

  I said, I said, you know what I asked? I said, isn't, is your goal to get people to stop making porn? I said, your goal isn't for people to make porn, right? You want people to stop making porn and go have normal lives. Well, no, we think this is actually an honorable profession. That's when they lost me.

• 1:49:38Speaker 05

  Oh, no.

• 1:49:38Patrick Bet-David?

  I said, wait a minute, if they're on, are you guys helping people to stop making porn? That was the question. Rob, play the clip. While the video is being shot, there needs to be someone saying, before we do this scene, this is what it is. I am at this age, we're shooting it at this age, here's how old I am, and here's how old he is. I am 22 years old, he is 24 years old, I'm 21 years old, he's 19 years old. This is what's about to happen. Then you could say, yes, 100% we know, and then you have to see, is that ID being verified on an ID website to be able to, the, the ability to check? So now, let's go back to the other question. What is the business model of Pornhub? I don't know what the business model of Pornhub, how do you guys make money?

• 1:50:23Speaker 22

  It's an ad-supported platform primarily.

• 1:50:26Patrick Bet-David?

  So it's not a membership, it's an ad-supported?

• 1:50:28Speaker 22

  That's right. So ALO as a company, we have Pornhub that's ad-supported and then we have subscription-based sites like

• 1:50:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, we can't stop right there. I mean-

• 1:50:36Adam Sosnick?

  That cross is burning on her chest.

• 1:50:38Patrick Bet-David?

  It's worth watching. It seriously is worth watching to learn more about. I was so curious about this. And we had another one. We had Leila Mikewait, who's the lawyer that sued them. Do you know about Leila Mikewait?

• 1:50:52Adam Sosnick?

  The pretty girl. I remember somebody that was pretty.

• 1:50:55Patrick Bet-David?

  In the middle of the podcast, Rob thought it was a good idea to go to Pornhub.com.

• 1:50:59Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, great. That's my boy. That's my boy.

• 1:51:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Actually, dead serious. It wasn't his idea. I said, no, you can go. You're not gonna get in trouble. So he goes to Pornhub.com and I'm like, did you know on the homepage, there's everything? I thought there's like a disclosure before you go.

• 1:51:15Adam Sosnick?

  No, I definitely didn't know that, Pat. Yeah, they just jumped right in. Rob was doing his due diligence.

• 1:51:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, anyway, alright.

• 1:51:24Adam Sosnick?

  Regarding this porn and what they're doing, I actually think I'm okay with the UK doing this. I mean, as much as they're curbing free speech in the UK.

• 1:51:33Patrick Bet-David?

  I actually love that they're doing it.

• 1:51:34Adam Sosnick?

  Curbing access to Pornhub. So here's some stats for you. The most likely to watch porn are 18 to 34-year-old men. They're two and a half more, like, times more likely to watch porn than women. Apparently, there's a sharp decline after age 55, but you still might make jokes. The internet, in my opinion, should be 18-plus. Because if you need to be 18 to buy a pack of cigarettes, or 21 to drink, I would argue that the things you can see on the internet and the things you can experience on social media are way worse. Way worse. Talk about hiding kids from harmful content.

• 1:52:15Adam Sosnick?

  Look, back in the day, we all remember being a 14-year-old boy, 15-year-old boy, what you would do to get a Playboy magazine. Let's not all get it twisted. I mean, I know young men that would cut off their left arm, definitely not their right arm. Definitely not their right arm unless they had ambidextrous tendencies to get a Playboy. Now you can go on the internet and watch anything you'd ever wanted in the world? This is a, this is very challenging for young people. If I had kids that were 13-plus, 18, you know, under 18, I'd be very, very cautious with letting them anywhere near the internet.

• 1:52:50Patrick Bet-David?

  FYI, good for UK. We talk a lot of crap about UK with how they handle a lot of different things, immigration. Good for you for doing this right. Maybe, I don't know, maybe it's like, maybe, by the way, it kinda does make sense for UK though, because of the increased level of Muslims in UK. Maybe they would support for these levels of measures to go in.

• 1:53:20Patrick Bet-David?

  For there not to be porn available for people under the age of eighteen.

• 1:53:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Very, very interesting, because culturally, that's, that's no good.

• 1:53:29Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no, no, that's not, that's not, that's no good for them. But, uh, look, there's a lot of angles I could go right now. I'll pause, and let's, let's just make this, let's just make this about this right now, and we'll go on to some of the other stories. All right, um, next story, next story I want to get into, uh, French influencer, folks. This is one of the darkest stories I've seen in a long time, and you know, normally we'll say, this person's doing dumb things. I don't know if you put anything above this. So this is a guy that's an influencer in France going around with a needle shooting people up. And there's an-

• 1:54:08Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, he's dead serious.

• 1:54:10Patrick Bet-David?

  By, by the way, so let me just read the story to you.

• 1:54:13Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm not here, okay.

• 1:54:14Patrick Bet-David?

  French influencer, Amin Mohido, decent last name, sentenced to prison after terrifying syringe pranks videos. What? Okay, so I see this, I'm like, there's no way this is real.

• 1:54:31Patrick Bet-David?

  French influencer Amin Mohido, his real name is Elon M., was recently sentenced to jail following outrage and fear that was generated in France from his syringe prank videos. The Paris Criminal Court made the ruling on Friday, October 30th, and sentenced the 27-year-old to 12 months in prison, of which six months shall be served in custody and the rest suspended. Mohido was also fined $1,500 and prohibited from, uh, possessing or carrying a gun for three years. This prankster went viral when he posted clips where he spoofed injecting bystanders with empty syringes on Parisian street.

• 1:55:07Patrick Bet-David?

  They went viral just days before the county's Fete de la Musique, World Music Day in June, when France was on edge enough due to unfounded rumors of attacks involving needles at festivals and student parties. Just, by the way, earmuffs? If you can't watch stuff like this, don't do it. I'm giving you the warning. But here's the clip. Go ahead, Rob. Look what he does at him.

• 1:55:30Speaker 05

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• 1:57:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh my god.

• 1:57:01Speaker 05

  Bro, this guy deserves every ass whooping he could possibly get.

• 1:57:05Patrick Bet-David?

  I honestly don't think the amount of crime he got is not enough.

• 1:57:09Speaker 05

  Oh, I fully agree with you.

• 1:57:10Patrick Bet-David?

  I think 12 months is nothing. I think this is like...

• 1:57:16Speaker 05

  Oh, whoop his ass. Whoop his ass, dude.

• 1:57:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Dude, what is wrong with this guy?

• 1:57:26Speaker 05

  Like, bro, this guy's neck, dude? Are you kidding me? What the fuck? Like, like, in your head, you're like, what do I, what did he give me? AIDS? Remember that guy that was running down and putting HIV into people? Let me, let me, can I be dead serious with you? I, my, you know, I would have-

• 1:57:43Patrick Bet-David?

  My blood pressure's gone up just watching this.

• 1:57:45Speaker 05

  I would have shot him. He's lucky he's doing it there where nobody has a gun.

• 1:57:49Adam Sosnick?

  What did you just say?

• 1:57:49Speaker 05

  I would have shot him dead.

• 1:57:51Adam Sosnick?

  What if he does this in Texas?

• 1:57:53Speaker 05

  Oh, bro, this guy's finished. Let me explain something to you. When it comes to my life and my-

• 1:57:56Adam Sosnick?

  One of those ten people is gonna draw down.

• 1:57:58Speaker 05

  I would have won, listen. Put all the, I, I, I still practicing Christian, he's trying to kill me. Cause I don't know what the hell's in there. HIV, whatever the hell, bro, poison. I'm going to-

• 1:58:09Patrick Bet-David?

  All he got is 12 months.

• 1:58:11Speaker 05

  How about this? The guy that's in on it with him recording, he should be in jail too.

• 1:58:14Adam Sosnick?

  And the judge called him a public menace. A public menace, the judge said.

• 1:58:19Speaker 05

  Just for anybody out there that's armed. Rob, I'm, I'm really curious, Rob, can we, can we ask our audience? Pat, just a regular, uh, concealed or open carry now in Florida carry. If a guy with a mask is approaching you with a syringe to hit you, are you gonna shoot him?

• 1:58:34Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think, uh, look, we're not inside, we're not- We're not recommending this.

• 1:58:38Speaker 05

  No, I'm not.

• 1:58:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me ask the question this way. This is a better way of asking the question. What would you do if somebody did this to you?

• 1:58:45Speaker 05

  Yeah, Rob, do that. What would you do?

• 1:58:47Patrick Bet-David?

  You're, you're in, you're with your girl, you're with your wife, you're with your kid. Somebody comes and puts a needle in your wife's arms, what do you do?

• 1:58:53Speaker 05

  Oh my god, or your kid!

• 1:58:55Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I don't even want, I don't even, I, I can't even tell you where my mind is going.

• 1:58:59Speaker 05

  That drives me crazy that he's doing that.

• 1:59:00Adam Sosnick?

  Let me tell you.

• 1:59:01Speaker 05

  And you're right.

• 1:59:02Adam Sosnick?

  This guy deserves every ass whooping he could have possibly gotten. You notice he didn't do it to any big, strong, tough, masculine dudes. It was always like women or like old guys sitting down. Any reasonable dude would try to hunt this guy down. But it just goes to show, this whole get rich quick, go viral quick, sort of lifestyle thing.

• 1:59:23Speaker 05

  It's clicks.

• 1:59:23Adam Sosnick?

  It's, it's this clickbait, attention, uh, eyeball mentality. It, it, it has its very deep, dark side. Like, you've seen pranks where, like, we've talked about this guy. The guy goes and he's like, "What's up, S. A. D. You got a problem?" And he's like joking with these guys, then he gets his ass whooped. Or maybe he gets all- So like, some people take these pranks way too far. In my opinion, they set a horrible precedent with this. He had to pay fifteen hundred pounds and fifteen hundred euro and he's only getting six to twelve months in jail. This guy's gonna come out of jail and do this crap again.

• 1:59:57Speaker 02

  Hundred percent.

• 1:59:58Adam Sosnick?

  Cause this is what he's known for.

• 1:59:59Speaker 02

  You're making an important point.

• 2:00:00Adam Sosnick?

  This guy needs to be shamed and condemned and set an example.

• 2:00:03Speaker 02

  Well, if that happens to me.

• 2:00:04Tom Ellsworth?

  You should be making an important point about the, about likes and pranks, you know? In that, there, it's a slippery slope because Adam, you're right. Each prank has got to be bigger and weirder and odder than the next one to get even more likes. And you go down a slippery slope too, you have a guy that's actually doing this.

• 2:00:21Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 2:00:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Whereas if he was in a, a place like Texas or Florida where a lot of people carry, all you need is one out of ten to, to, to draw down and flinch. That's all you need. And, and I don't wish that on him, but I'm just saying the consequences of just freaking people out.

• 2:00:36Patrick Bet-David?

  You know where this takes me? By the way, comments section, you guys are unbelievably funny, what people are saying, even though this is not a funny topic. Rob, do you remember when Shugnott comes out of jail? Okay? And he goes on Kimmel. Okay, have you seen this? And what he says, don't, don't say anything, I want to see, if they haven't seen it, I want them to, have you ever seen this? Okay? Uh, let me show this to you.

• 2:00:58Tom Ellsworth?

  I've definitely not watched Kimmel, so that's probably why.

• 2:01:00Patrick Bet-David?

  So, but this is, we're talking about fifteen years ago, okay? So he's on, he goes on Jimmy Kimmel, that's it, Rob, good for you, there you go. Watch this. Go ahead.

• 2:01:10Speaker 02

  Right, right. Why the bulletproof vest? Oh, it's not, oh no, that's just, it's in the style, you've been in the can for a while.

• 2:01:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen.

• 2:01:18Speaker 02

  Should all the talk show hosts are wearing. This is a new thing, right? Yeah. See, if somebody gonna do something to somebody, see, technology is so high, right? Right. So if you shoot somebody, you go to jail forever. So the kids, you don't wanna go to jail forever, right? So they got this new thing out there, people sell them all the time. They got this stuff they call, they get blood from somebody with AIDS. And then they shoot you with it.

• 2:01:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, well, that seems bad.

• 2:01:40Speaker 02

  That's a slow death.

• 2:01:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:01:42Speaker 02

  The Eazy-E thing, you know what I mean?

• 2:01:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:01:46Speaker 05

  He said that?

• 2:01:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Why are you moving?

• 2:01:48Speaker 05

  You've never seen this?

• 2:01:49Patrick Bet-David?

  An Eazy-E thing? The Eazy-E thing.

• 2:01:51Speaker 05

  Oh, he even had it. I didn't know.

• 2:01:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. The Eazy-E thing, because Eazy died from AIDS. Yeah, Kit Frost is telling a story of Eazy-E's on the eighth floor of this hospital, which was the AIDS thing. People would only go on the eighth floor if it was AIDS. One of his girls was calling Kit Frost saying, "Eazy's on the eighth floor." And Kit Frost tells this exact story and says there's a guy in hip-hop, they call him the devil. He says, "The people who know this, they know who I'm talking about." It's a seven-minute clip.

• 2:02:19Speaker 05

  Oh, my goodness.

• 2:02:19Patrick Bet-David?

  I've had Kit Frost on a podcast before. We had him on ten years ago.

• 2:02:22Speaker 05

  And what's this devil guy do?

• 2:02:23Patrick Bet-David?

  The hip-hop devil?

• 2:02:24Speaker 05

  No, no. He's saying this guy goes around and...

• 2:02:26Patrick Bet-David?

  He's saying Shug is the devil? Yeah. Going around and just injecting people with AIDS. So anyways, this needle joke is not a real... This is not a... This is... This is a terrible joke to play. And the crime used to be a much higher crime than what that guy got. That is just absolutely insane when you think about that. Anyways, let's get to the next story here. Back-to-back highs, August as September, bringing in $62.6 billion of revenue in tariffs. Okay, back-to-back. And with the $62.6 billion of tariffs that the US government collected last two months, the president is now floating an idea of handing out... Well, I'll let him tell you. Go ahead, Rob.

• 2:03:10Speaker 23

  Your tariffs are gonna be over a trillion dollars a year, in my opinion. We're gonna do something. We're looking at something where, number one, we're paying down debt, because people have allowed the debt to go crazy. But, you know, with growth, with the kind of growth we have now, the debt is very little, relatively speaking. You grow yourself out of that debt. It's not a question of paying it. You grow yourself out. And the numbers are so much bigger than they ever were. The numbers we have now are bigger than they ever were. So when you have $36 trillion in debt a year ago, or two years ago, and you have a lot less revenue coming in, then you have 37 or 38. It's not 38 yet, but it will be. And the numbers are so much bigger, all of a sudden thirty-eight, you're under levered,

• 2:03:53Speaker 23

  whereas for thirty-six, you were highly levered. We're not highly levered anymore. Now, with that being said, we'll pay back debt, but we also might make a distribution to the people, almost like a dividend to the people of America. How much are you thinking for that, sir? Well, we're thinking maybe a thousand to two thousand dollars. Be great.

• 2:04:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you imagine a thousand to two thousand dollars, okay, to send out to people with the tariffs? So, what happened to all the people that were screaming about the tariffs, Tom?

• 2:04:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I remember that.

• 2:04:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Where are those guys?

• 2:04:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 2:04:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Where did they go?

• 2:04:26Tom Ellsworth?

  I was on certain podcasts.

• 2:04:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Now, don't get me wrong, some prices are up.

• 2:04:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay.

• 2:04:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Because of tariffs. It's not like some industries are not taking a hit. I'm trying to buy a watch, and the guy is saying, Pat, it's a very well-known brand, people know what the brand is. So he's going back in for not buying directly from them, and he says, the reason why this watch is not here yet is they're waiting for the tariffs to change in the next few months before they ship it out, because right now the tariffs are very high on this. So some industries are definitely taking a hit on tariffs, there's no question about it. But the reality of it is, you know what people are realizing? Every once in a while, when you change the comp plan, and your sales team at first is like, eh, I don't know if this is gonna be real, I don't know if it's gonna be permanent, it's probably just a temporary comp plan. Sometimes it takes three, six, twelve months for people

• 2:05:13Patrick Bet-David?

  to realize, this thing is here to stay.

• 2:05:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 2:05:16Patrick Bet-David?

  I better make some adjustments. They want my quality of business to improve. So I think that's what they're doing, it's obvious now, it's not going away. Tom, your thoughts on this?

• 2:05:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Vinny, let's do some math, but make it... Oh, damn it, Tom! No, no, no, no, no. I was having such a great Monday morning! Okay. Okay, go. Why is there a tariff? Because stuff's coming from over there to over here.

• 2:05:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, no.

• 2:05:35Tom Ellsworth?

  So, we've got tariffs on it, right?

• 2:05:37Patrick Bet-David?

  You've already lost Vinny, Tom.

• 2:05:38Tom Ellsworth?

  So they have to pay tariffs to go to the government.

• 2:05:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:05:41Tom Ellsworth?

  So, you... Or a manufacturer. So you don't want to make it over there anymore because it gets tariff coming over here and then you sell it to Americans. Yeah. So what if you start making it over here? Okay. Who do you need to help you make it? America. Americans. Yeah. Because you give them jobs. I did good. And guess what? Ah, good. The tariff money goes down because you're no longer making them over there. Okay. And paying a tariff over here. Hmm. Now, people over here called American workers. Have jobs. Have jobs. Paying taxes. And they're paying taxes to the government. Yes. So now the government gets the money that way. Yeah. So tariffs is a way to pull jobs back over here. And as Pat said, there's an adjustment. So you don't have to do the math. You can just do the steps. Thank God.

• 2:06:23Tom Ellsworth?

  You say, we're collecting tariff now. And so if Americans really want that product, that product, that product, that product, and there's a tariff on it, that's going to be built into the price. However, over long term, Vinny, the business owner says, maybe I should figure out a way to make it over here and I'll employ American workers and I'll make it over here. And you'll select areas where you could pay a certain wage because housing is a certain price. And so it creates this effect, this incentive. And that's what Pat's talking about. You put together a compensation plan and all of a sudden your salespeople go, oh, wait a minute. If I sell these products, I get a little bit better commission than selling these products. Well, guess what? Then I'm going to get good at presenting and talking to customers and selling these products. That's how it works.

• 2:07:07Tom Ellsworth?

  And so what's happening here is phase one is working. And then phase two is how many American companies want to figure out how to put the jobs over here? It won't always be easy. Real estate may be expensive. It's expensive to build and you get and worker wages and everything over here that we should pay so people can live. Yeah, that's correct. But work your way out of it and bring those jobs back home. And that is exactly what the president's doing and it's having a success. To the point where now he's looking at it and saying, you know what? The tariffs have worked so well, what if I give everybody a thousand, two thousand, like tariff benefit, whether it's on your taxes or some other way?

• 2:07:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Guess what? He's not printing money like Biden says, hey, sorry, COVID has messed up your life. Here's 1,400 bucks. He's saying, hey, we're changing the playing field for America. Here's a little sugar. They can't do that, Tom.

• 2:08:02Patrick Bet-David?

  I just did the math because if they if they give $2,000, how many working people do you think he has to give it to?

• 2:08:08Tom Ellsworth?

  I think there I I didn't see it, but I'm not assuming it's population. I'm assuming it's like taxpaying unit or households.

• 2:08:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 2:08:15Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm assuming.

• 2:08:16Patrick Bet-David?

  So how many households would it be?

• 2:08:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Probably barely a 110, 115.

• 2:08:22Patrick Bet-David?

  115 million.

• 2:08:23Tom Ellsworth?

  I think.

• 2:08:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you know that's 200 billion dollars?

• 2:08:28Patrick Bet-David?

  So he can't make these types of promises if he can deliver to send a thousand, $2,000. That's a 200, you do $2,000.

• 2:08:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, the math has to work, otherwise you're Joe Biden.

• 2:08:41Patrick Bet-David?

  No, the the math doesn't work. So if you do two, $2,000. Times 100 and, okay, he's got 132 million households here, 2,000 times 132 million households. You're looking at 264 billion dollars. That's the first year revenue of tariffs has gone. I don't think it's a good idea. And and and I think if they if they were gonna send it to anybody, I think you have to be selective on who you send it to. Uh, but, uh, or you just don't do it. Yeah, we can't afford to send 260 billion dollars. Adam, do you have any thoughts on the story?

• 2:09:13Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, well, it reminds me of the story that the time where you actually, uh, during the Trump tax cuts.

• 2:09:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:09:18Adam Sosnick?

  When you rewarded employees, I think you said for every month that you were with me, you're gonna give them.

• 2:09:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Hundred dollars.

• 2:09:23Adam Sosnick?

  Hundred bucks. So some people ended up getting thousands of dollars, I would assume. So you definitely want to reward loyalty. You definitely want to reward people on your side. You actually also want to reward people for staying the course on, you know, sort of. Uh, going with you. At the same time, they do have a math problem. I don't know how this is gonna work. I don't know how this is gonna help inflation. I don't know how this is gonna help our debt. I don't understand how that's gonna work, but I do like the idea of rewarding people who have been with you, but I will give Trump credit. Uh, the numbers just came out. This was, uh, the end of September where they said the US GDP expanded. At a strong 3.8% pace in the second quarter. And that was revised because they actually predicted it'd be closer to 3.3%.

• 2:10:04Adam Sosnick?

  So it was actually 3.8, which is almost four. They thought it would be 3.3, which is closer to three. And if you know anything about dynamic growth in our country, uh, average GDP annualized is somewhere between 2 and 3%. Meaning we're doing good in America.

• 2:10:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 2:10:19Adam Sosnick?

  In the second quarter. So, uh, we'll see what happens, uh, for the rest of the year. But, uh, for all the people that were like, uh, after, uh, what was it, um?

• 2:10:31Adam Sosnick?

  Independence Day, not Independence Day. What did Trump call it when it's gonna be the certain day where Liberation Day? Liberation Day. Everyone's like, "Oh, my God, the tariffs. What's gonna happen?" Turns out, we're taking in money. Turns out that inflation has not risen. It turns out that employment is doing OK. Turns out the Fed has cut rates. Turns out that Trump was right about everything.

• 2:10:53Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, let's get to the next thing here. All right, Bad Bunny, folks. I know you guys got a few months left to learn how to speak in Spanish. That's what he's telling you. Rob, can we play those clips or no?

• 2:11:04Speaker 16

  We can play the Bad Bunny one.

• 2:11:05Patrick Bet-David?

  So Bad Bunny trolls MAGA critics of his Super Bowl halftime show while hosting Saturday Night Live. And he took a shot at Fox News. And you have to hear what he had to say at Fox News. But Bad Bunny mocked his critics with Fox News. I'll just let you watch the clip and we'll react to it. Go ahead, Rob.

• 2:11:21Speaker 24

  I'm very excited to be doing the Super Bowl. And I know that people all around the world who love my music are also happy, especialmente to todos los latinos.

• 2:11:33Speaker 05

  Those people are just randomly in the audience. Random.

• 2:11:36Speaker 24

  And the Latinos in the world, and here in the United States, all the people who have worked to open doors, more than a single achievement.

• 2:11:45Adam Sosnick?

  He said, "For my people here in America that are working hard, doing their thing."

• 2:11:49Speaker 24

  More than a single achievement is a achievement of all, demonstrating that our legacy and our reputation in this country, nobody will ever be able to take or destroy.

• 2:11:58Speaker 05

  I want a burrito so bad right now. I'm so hungry.

• 2:12:02Speaker 24

  And if you didn't understand what I just said,

• 2:12:09Speaker 24

  you have four months to learn.

• 2:12:12Speaker 05

  We have a great show for you tonight. Go, Ya Chav, is here. Thanks, people.

• 2:12:19Speaker 16

  Just so you guys know, I don't know if you've ever been to SNL. There's applause signs. So every time the audience is cheering when he's speaking Spanish, they're being cued by the staff at SNL to cheer. It's not like those people actually understood what Bad Bunny was saying. Maybe some of them did. But they're being cued to cheer by the people at SNL.

• 2:12:36Adam Sosnick?

  And they are usually warmed up by local comics that come on and do three minutes each, give or take. And sometimes, members of their own cast will come out. I don't know if our friend, who's been on here from Miami, has done it. But they usually get them really warmed up before they go out.

• 2:12:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, thoughts?

• 2:12:58Adam Sosnick?

  So what is exactly the problem with Bad Bunny performing at the Super Bowl? I want to understand this so I can fully embrace what the argument is. Is the fact that he's not quote unquote, "American"? He's Puerto Rican? Is the fact that he doesn't love Trump? Like, what's the criticism?

• 2:13:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Have you, have you heard what he said or no?

• 2:13:16Adam Sosnick?

  I want, I want to know what is it that's triggering people?

• 2:13:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:13:19Adam Sosnick?

  I've heard, I've heard comments he's made.

• 2:13:20Patrick Bet-David?

  What have you heard? What have you heard about the comments he's made?

• 2:13:23Adam Sosnick?

  Uh.

• 2:13:23Patrick Bet-David?

  What have you heard about comments he's made that's upset conservatives?

• 2:13:27Adam Sosnick?

  So, that's what I'm asking for clarification on. I've heard comments, but nothing has been so radical that I'm like, "Oh, my God, cancel him from the Super Bowl."

• 2:13:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Such as what? What have you heard?

• 2:13:37Adam Sosnick?

  So, why don't you tell me some of the comments that...

• 2:13:39Patrick Bet-David?

  But you're asking a question. This is your story, so you circled it. So, don't, if you're circling that that's your story, don't start off with a question. Make the comment.

• 2:13:46Adam Sosnick?

  No, sir.

• 2:13:46Patrick Bet-David?

  What comment do you have on this? Because this is your story.

• 2:13:49Adam Sosnick?

  So, what I'm asking is, why are people so upset by this? Let's just get, uh, first things first.

• 2:13:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 2:13:54Adam Sosnick?

  Uh, do I condone everything he's said ever about Ice and Trump? No. But, at the same time, I acknowledge, this is one of the biggest musical artists in the world. Period. Okay? And that doesn't mean he should be excused from saying horrible things. But, let's be very, uh, careful cancel culturing people, because you don't like what they have to say. So, let's not forget, the NFL, because he's going to potentially be performing at the Super Bowl. This is a global brand. If you've noticed anything about the NFL, games they've had this season, Mexico, Germany, London, they're trying to expand their brand, and they would love to expand it into Latin America. Um, so they can stop playing football and play American football. So, whether it's the World Cup, whether it's the Olympics, these are global brands.

• 2:14:37Adam Sosnick?

  So, to say that you don't want a global superstar, who's dating, by the way, uh, one of the Jenner chicks, Kendall Jenner, because he said some not favorable things about Trump, I think is a little feckless. Now, am I an advocate of someone that talks shit about America? Hell, no. But I'm not going to cancel somebody because you don't agree with their opinion. That's un-American to me. So, if there's something that he's said that I'm unaware of, that is completely uncalled for, I'd love to hear it. But, critiquing Ice and critiquing Trump is not grounds for firing someone from the Super Bowl.

• 2:15:09Speaker 05

  Not for firing, but, but Adam, you look at your audience. Who is watching football?

• 2:15:13Adam Sosnick?

  The world.

• 2:15:14Speaker 05

  No, it's Americans. Americans. As if Bud Light didn't get the message. Like, just, let's just think about this. Why would you take something like Bud Light and put... Gay beyond gay is Dylan Mulvaney and meaning you Bud Light as a company, they listen to one person in there.

• 2:15:31Adam Sosnick?

  Are you saying Bad Bunny is the equivalent of Dylan Mulvaney?

• 2:15:33Speaker 05

  No, no, what I'm saying is, no, what I'm, well, by the way, if you've been following Bad Bunny used to be dope. He got into Hollywood, now he's wearing dresses all the time.

• 2:15:41Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, you know who else did that in Hollywood? Uh, every dude ever. That's Hollywood.

• 2:15:45Speaker 05

  No, by the way, and doing satanic worshiping videos.

• 2:15:48Adam Sosnick?

  I'm with you.

• 2:15:49Speaker 05

  And guess what? And that's what you're gonna be.

• 2:15:51Adam Sosnick?

  But that's Hollywood.

• 2:15:51Speaker 05

  This is the hot, but the, the Super Bowl halftime show was supposed to be entertainment. And this is supposed to be, but by the way, football is an American sport. You're gonna bring a guy that's basically telling America, I'm just saying it from a, from a advertising point of view. Yo, y'all, you guys better learn Spanish in four months because that's how it's.

• 2:16:07Adam Sosnick?

  Bro, that's a joke. You're a comedian. He's on SNL. He's joking. He's not saying America. Start learning Spanish.

• 2:16:12Speaker 05

  Well, guess what?

• 2:16:13Adam Sosnick?

  It's a joke.

• 2:16:14Speaker 05

  You think he's gonna be singing in English or in Spanish?

• 2:16:16Adam Sosnick?

  I think he's gonna be singing all his hits were in Spanish.

• 2:16:18Speaker 05

  Okay, so guess what? So what I'm saying is, and by the way, did you know the, the stuff that he said about ICE and stuff and about the ICE people?

• 2:16:23Adam Sosnick?

  That's what I wanna know.

• 2:16:24Speaker 05

  And, and in Puerto Rico, he was talking crap about them. He said, um, uh, there was an issue like, uh, effing ICE could be outside my concert. He said, uh, strong criticism against them. They often, um, he, uh, called ICE in Puerto Rico, sons of bitches. Sorry for my language and arrested people, most of, uh, Dominicans on the island and stuff. But Adam, my, my point being.

• 2:16:45Adam Sosnick?

  Listen, all those words are fine, dude. People say that about Trump. People say that about Biden.

• 2:16:50Speaker 05

  But you're asking me, but you're asking me.

• 2:16:51Adam Sosnick?

  We're leaving free speech here, don't we?

• 2:16:52Speaker 05

  But, but, and, and another angle, Adam, this is the NFL. These are the same people that have to have end racism and all this stuff. This is to me, the what, of all the people that you could pick, why Bad Bunny? I think this is also an F you to Donald Trump. An F you to Donald Trump.

• 2:17:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, play this clip, Rob. Play this clip. Play this clip.

• 2:17:09Speaker 05

  That's what it is.

• 2:17:09Patrick Bet-David?

  A reaction from, uh, Chicago.

• 2:17:13Adam Sosnick?

  Chris, did you know him?

• 2:17:13Patrick Bet-David?

  One Ray, no, it's not Christina. It's actually somebody you would like to look at. And, uh, where she's talking about why she is not happy about Bad Bunny.

• 2:17:22Adam Sosnick?

  Let's hear it.

• 2:17:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Performing at the Super Bowl. Rob, if you got the clip, please go ahead and play it. And, uh, let's see what you have to say. Go ahead, Rob.

• 2:17:32Speaker 25

  So the NFL picked Bad Bunny for the 2026 Super Bowl halftime show. But let me be so real, I had never even heard of him. I thought Bad Bunny-

• 2:17:42Adam Sosnick?

  So she's automatically-

• 2:17:43Speaker 00

  Stop, stop, stop.

• 2:17:44Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, go ahead, sorry.

• 2:17:45Speaker 25

  Maybe some type of influencer. But it turns out, he is actually a Trump-hating, anti-Ice activist who doesn't even sing in English. But look at him. We know why they picked him, right? Here's a fact, he refused to tour America because he said ICE might be outside of one of his concerts. And that's who the NFL thinks should represent America's biggest stage. Hey NFL, do you even know your audience? Your fans love God, country, and football. Not open borders and woke politics. You could have picked anyone to bring people together. But you went with someone who openly trashes conservatives and mocks the values of your core fans. This is a middle finger to every American

• 2:18:30Speaker 25

  who still believes in faith, family, and freedom.

• 2:18:32Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 2:18:32Speaker 25

  So congrats NFL, you just turned the Super Bowl halftime show into a political protest yet again.

• 2:18:39Speaker 00

  Adam, go ahead.

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• 2:19:37Adam Sosnick?

  Well, I mean, if I'm her and I'm probably have her audience and beautiful girl, she's doing identity politics 101. The fact that she goes, "I've never even heard of Bad Bunny", you're disqualified sweetheart. That's like someone saying, "What? We're having a Beyonce perform? I've never even heard of this person. He's the biggest Latino artist in the world." And the fact that you don't know who that is, is testament to the fact that maybe you're living in some sort of a bubble. My mom doesn't know. And I fully agree that he should not make those comments. I fully agree that you should be pro-American. But at the same time...

• 2:20:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think? By the end of the video, she sounded pretty well researched. Let me, let me...

• 2:20:12Adam Sosnick?

  The fact that she didn't know who Bad Bunny was.

• 2:20:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me ask the question.

• 2:20:14Adam Sosnick?

  She's disqualified.

• 2:20:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me ask the question in a different way. Maybe let me ask the question in a different way. Because she's wrong. Bad Bunny is massive. Not, not a little bit massive. Rob, can you just go on YouTube and type in Bad Bunny and then go to search for, search for views? Bad Bunny and then go to filter and go to views and look how many views his biggest hits have gotten. Okay? Zoom in a little bit, 3.5 billion. No, zoom in a little bit, Rob. 2.4 billion. Uh, go to the next one, uh, 1.6 billion. Go to the next 1.6 billion. Uh, 1.6 billion with Drake, 1.4 billion. Go to the next 1.3...

• 2:20:49Adam Sosnick?

  And this chick's never heard of him.

• 2:20:51Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no. And, and, but, and, and look, Dylan listens to Bad Bunny. Is when he, you know, since we were in Dallas, he would listen to Bad Bunny. But this guy's everywhere. That's not the point. The point is the following. I think the NFL had an opportunity, Adam. That, that's the, that's the main thing for me. I think the NFL had an opportunity for this year's halftime to actually speak to God, country, America, football. That's what people are saying. For me, it would have been with, what just happened with Charlie Kirk? Can you imagine if the NFL brought a country singer? Okay? Brought a Morgan Wallen? Brought, you know, brought a person like that? What would happen if we would have done that?

• 2:21:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Would have been pretty epic. I think timing is the key to me. You know, when it comes on to who they've had in the past, Janet Jackson, Justin Timberlake, Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, a couple of years ago when they had Snoop, 50 Cent... The history of hip-hop. Yeah, history of hip. I actually liked that one, when they did the history of hip-hop. And people were complaining about that one, but I liked that one. I like when they did that. Yeah. So to me... I get her argument. I get your argument. I simply saw this as an opportunity for them to have somebody else come in, but it makes sense to me. Tom, do you have anything to say about this here?

• 2:22:10Adam Sosnick?

  I want to... Nothing different. I agree with you. Okay. Did you see what Kristi Noem had to say?

• 2:22:15Patrick Bet-David?

  What?

• 2:22:15Adam Sosnick?

  Kristi Noem said the fact that the NFL won't be able to sleep at night over the Bad Bunny Super Bowl performance. This is, uh, this is just like fake outrage.

• 2:22:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Is this it?

• 2:22:25Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, is this it right here?

• 2:22:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Is it?

• 2:22:27Speaker 26

  And you messaged the NFL with this decision? It seems like they were trying to send a message to the Trump administration?

• 2:22:31Speaker 27

  Well, they suck and we'll win and God will bless us and we'll stand and be proud of ourselves at the end of the day and they won't be able to sleep at night because they don't know what they believe and they're so weak. Well, we'll, we'll fix it.

• 2:22:47Speaker 26

  Thank you.

• 2:22:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Pause it right there.

• 2:22:49Speaker 26

  Thank you, madam.

• 2:22:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that Benny?

• 2:22:51Adam Sosnick?

  That's Benny. Well...

• 2:22:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Mr. 2 million subscribers, Benny. Uh, but you know, no, but let me tell you, like, that right there to me is a, um, I think it's a, it's, that was a weak argument to see what they said. They'll lose and we'll win and all this other stuff.

• 2:23:06Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 2:23:06Patrick Bet-David?

  That's not where I'm at.

• 2:23:07Adam Sosnick?

  It's just identity politics 101. Look, they're saying that they're gonna bring ice to the Super Bowl because there's gonna be illegal... Listen, do you know what the average price ticket for a Super Bowl is?

• 2:23:18Speaker 26

  Wow.

• 2:23:18Adam Sosnick?

  Average, five grand. Corporations come in there, big brands, they buy the whole place out to pretend that some random Mexican guy's like, "Hey, I'm trying to go to the Super Bowl." That's not happening, dog. It's the biggest, best, highest ticket around in the world stage and you're acting like it's gonna be some like La Migra ice situation. By the way, there's zero, zero, zero case examples of the Super Bowl bringing anybody from the right. The Morgan Wallens of the world, the Jason Aldeans, zero. Here are the last performers of the Super Bowl. You tell me if any of these people happen to be on the right. Kendrick Lamar was last year. You have Usher, Weekend, Shakira, J-Lo, Maroon 5, Justin Timberlake, Lady Gaga, Snoop, Drake, Rihanna.

• 2:24:01Speaker 26

  No, it's all Hollywood.

• 2:24:02Adam Sosnick?

  It's all left.

• 2:24:03Speaker 26

  No, it's all left.

• 2:24:03Adam Sosnick?

  So the fact that like, "Yeah, we're doing Bad Bunny." It's like, yeah, that actually makes complete sense based on the last 10 years of Coldplay and Beyonce.

• 2:24:10Patrick Bet-David?

  You missed the entire point I just made. You missed the entire point I just made. What happened, Rob?

• 2:24:15Adam Sosnick?

  Not just he missed the entire point. No, I heard your point.

• 2:24:19Patrick Bet-David?

  No, you didn't, but it's okay.

• 2:24:19Adam Sosnick?

  They're saying, hey, bring us a country music artist.

• 2:24:22Patrick Bet-David?

  No.

• 2:24:23Adam Sosnick?

  Because that's what red America wants right now.

• 2:24:25Patrick Bet-David?

  That's not what I said.

• 2:24:26Adam Sosnick?

  And the NFL is basically saying, no, we care about our money and our bottom line.

• 2:24:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam.

• 2:24:30Adam Sosnick?

  And we want the most famous person in the world.

• 2:24:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, listen, and that's why you are Adam Sosnick.

• 2:24:35Adam Sosnick?

  That's true, baby.

• 2:24:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, and that is why you're Adam Sosnick.

• 2:24:38Adam Sosnick?

  I'll take it.

• 2:24:39Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, every, every two, three, four, one of one who Brandon whooped your ass last Wednesday when he was on. And he had 48,000 live streamers.

• 2:24:48Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, Brandon had it. That's right.

• 2:24:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Brandon crushed it that day. Yes, he did.

• 2:24:52Adam Sosnick?

  I'm proud of Brandon.

• 2:24:52Patrick Bet-David?

  I know, I am as well. I'm telling you.

• 2:24:54Adam Sosnick?

  If there's anybody that's exciting, it's Brandon. I'm proud of him.

• 2:24:55Patrick Bet-David?

  It is a, it is a Brandon, a one of one type of guy.

• 2:24:59Adam Sosnick?

  I fully agree. He might be performing at the Super Bowl this year, giving a speech.

• 2:25:03Patrick Bet-David?

  The point was missed as usual.

• 2:25:06Adam Sosnick?

  What was the point that I missed exactly?

• 2:25:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, I'm running out of time. Okay, let me see what else I got here before I wrap up.

• 2:25:09Adam Sosnick?

  We don't have that kind of time.

• 2:25:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, this one I'm gonna do in time. I'm only coming to you with the story.

• 2:25:14Adam Sosnick?

  I'll be at the Bad Bunny concert this weekend. You guys enjoy church.

• 2:25:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Disney attendance says the 45-year-old single man who's at the clubs every weekend, doesn't own a car, doesn't own a house, and he's bragging about he's gonna be at Bad Bunny. What a freaking comment you just made right there.

• 2:25:29Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, my God, this guy sounds horrible. You guys would be at church. Wow.

• 2:25:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Disney attendance.

• 2:25:33Adam Sosnick?

  That's accurate and very telling at the same time.

• 2:25:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Disney attendance plunges to an all-time low for 2025 as visitors report ghost towns at parks. Okay, let's go through this. This is Disney, by the way, we're talking about. All right, let's go to this here. So Disney World. Okay, let me go to see here. Disney attendance, Walt Disney World logged its lowest three-week stretch of the year in September, putting it on track to be the quietest month since 2021. Crowd tracker data for mid-August through mid-September shows average waits dropped to about 24 minutes per ride, even shorter than during the Fourth of July holiday.

• 2:26:13Patrick Bet-David?

  According to posted times from Disney, my Disney experience app aggregated by third-party tracker, thrill data and analyzed by Disney. tourist blog on Tik Tok some visitors described the parks as ghost towns I'm at Magic Kingdom right now and this place is a tomb one user said there's literally nobody here there's no way time for anything Space Mountain walk on hunted mansion walk on Pirates of the Caribbean walk on the longest I've been able to wait is 30 minutes Tom what do you know about what's going on here

• 2:26:43Tom Ellsworth?

  so there's a couple things um my wife our family used to have season passes in Los Angeles we love to go to Disneyland the girls would go down there I mean we had season passes because if you go twice a year it's worth it for the season pass versus paying for everything all at once and in Southern California you got California Adventure and it's rides right across from Disneyland parking the same parking lot you know go down there for a whole day um and so I know what I'm talking about here what is happening several angles first they need to understand what they have done with pricing the pricing and the parking has had a a definite impact on

• 2:27:26Tom Ellsworth?

  people so the first point is affordability is real the second is long-term not boycott but preferences changed Disney can't continue to kick its core customer in the face with the kind of content it puts out with the kind of things that come out both my daughters thought that that actress weird remember Rachel Zegler weird weird attacking the traditional story for Snow White right as she was in um there has been long-term impact that they have had on the viewership and the preference of the customer it's not just hey boycott Bud Light this weekend

• 2:28:10Tom Ellsworth?

  because you're pissed off about Dylan Mulvaney and that can right no this is a long-term preference change that people are making and the expense of it and also you know middle-class America right now has had a long-term impact of inflation it's tough to swing a holiday like that and if you look at all of that coming together it's over time Disney has strangled itself and I now words talk no no no no no no everything's okay but the numbers are screaming look at this I mean, and it's a combination of those things, Pat, and I speak from absolute experience, speaking both as a consumer and my wife.

• 2:28:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, have they made the adjustment of lower prices?

• 2:28:53Speaker 05

  I was just gonna ask that too. Are they adjusting at all?

• 2:28:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Have they made the adjustment, Rob, of lower prices?

• 2:28:57Speaker 16

  In the state of Florida, they do offer Florida passes for Florida residents at a discounted price, but nothing for people out of state that I'm aware of.

• 2:29:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so what is the worst season, what is the worst season for Disney World every year? Like, what month is the worst month for Disney?

• 2:29:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, usually, usually.

• 2:29:16Patrick Bet-David?

  I would assume going back to school, September.

• 2:29:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, back, usually back to school, but also, um, my understanding is that it, that when Florida gets blistering hot in August, it's really hard to do a whole day at Disneyland. And I've been up there in August. It's pretty, it's not Disneyland, but it's pretty, pretty unbearable.

• 2:29:36Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:29:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so I just asked here, what is the worst? It says mid-January to mid-February, after the holiday rush, crowds drop sharply. Okay, I see that. Late August through mid-September, school is back in session, hurricane season starts, heat humidity is brutal, so.

• 2:29:53Speaker 05

  So just now.

• 2:29:54Patrick Bet-David?

  So just now, right, exactly. So what is, what, in the last, in the last 10 years, what is the worst month Disney World has had outside of COVID season? Okay, let's see what it says.

• 2:30:11Tom Ellsworth?

  And as you look at this, Pat, you and I like to look at, um, sales stats, like year over year. So even if it's a tough time of year, year over year, they're having challenges.

• 2:30:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, is there, is there, is there, by the way, can you, can you, uh, I don't know how to run this poll, though. I guess what I'd wanna know is people who used to go who no longer go. Like, I don't go to Disney, not because of any of the stuff with, I'm not gonna go there and have a bunch of transgender people walking around. We went to Universal. And I'm all about going to Universal. I love the Universal in LA when we go to it.

• 2:30:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Heck yeah.

• 2:30:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Believe it or not, as weird as it sounds, when we went to Universal LA, there was no transgender stuff. When we went to Universal in Florida, it was a bunch of transgender.

• 2:30:51Tom Ellsworth?

  I was with you, and it wasn't just a random dude. So before everybody jumps into comments, it was not a random guy doing it. They had park attendants, and just same way that when there's an attendant around Winnie the Pooh when he walks around, because you're not supposed to touch them, you're not supposed to like, you know.

• 2:31:09Speaker 05

  Yeah, of course. You're not supposed to interact physically.

• 2:31:10Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, you're not supposed to do it. So they have park attendants that are with them. Excuse me, please step back.

• 2:31:14Speaker 05

  Yeah, like a bodyguard.

• 2:31:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, and so Mickey Mouse leans down, takes a picture, puts a little armor on your kid. So there's things he can and can't do. This was a trans demonstration with park attendants. It was part of the experience.

• 2:31:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. I don't know. I don't know what's going on there. Anyways, gang. All right. So it is 11:31. We're gonna wrap up. We're gonna do this again on Rob. Do we have a Wednesday? We may have a special guest tomorrow, right? If I'm not mistaken.

• 2:31:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Working on it, trying to confirm.

• 2:31:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. Is that the research that we're doing this afternoon?

• 2:31:44Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh, yes, but that won't go out till Thursday.

• 2:31:45Patrick Bet-David?

  That won't go out till Thursday. Okay, so we'll stay tuned, folks. Either way, it could be a interesting interview that's coming up this week. God bless everybody. Take care. Bye bye, bye bye.

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