Pod Insights Girls Gotta Eat The Snack: Song of the Summer, Obsession, and Dot Cakes About this episode Welcome back to The Snack – a lighter serving of Girls Gotta Eat. This week, we’re talking about:
Noah Kahan’s new album and Netflix documentary
Gwyneth Paltrow’s unhinged arugula suggestion
The viral Dot Cake craze
The Songs of the Summer are here...but what's The One?
Were Taylor and Travis in Dewey Beach?
Rayna reviews the Euphoria finale
Ashley reviews the movie Obsession
Amanda Batula’s f*ck ass bun
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0:01 Rayna Greenberg? This week on the snack, Songs of Summer: Obsession and Arugula Drama. This is a Dear Media production. Enjoy.
0:13 Ashley Hesseltine? Hi guys.
0:13 Rayna Greenberg? Hi.
0:14 Ashley Hesseltine? I am in my voting sticker.
0:16 Rayna Greenberg? Oh, I thought you were gonna say, your hair, like, you popped again today.
0:20 Ashley Hesseltine? It is growing.
0:22 Rayna Greenberg? It's long.
0:22 Ashley Hesseltine? I walked 90 seconds to my voting place. It's across the street. It just keeps getting easier and easier to vote in California. Across the street.
0:31 Rayna Greenberg? Mine's like a 90 second walk.
0:32 Ashley Hesseltine? Everyone there is so nice. Just shout out to the people that run the poll centers.
0:37 Rayna Greenberg? I feel like, it's so embarrassing, I feel like emotional by how nice they are to me.
0:41 Ashley Hesseltine? Oh, I know.
0:42 Rayna Greenberg? They're there for free, volunteering, and they're so sweet and kind. Every time I vote, I just like-
0:48 Ashley Hesseltine? Every single time.
0:49 Rayna Greenberg? I get a little choked up about the workers.
0:50 Ashley Hesseltine? No, because this mom and her daughter came in, her daughter's first time voting, like, must have just turned 18. And she was like, do you mind if I get a photo of her?
1:00 Rayna Greenberg? Cutie.
1:01 Ashley Hesseltine? And they're like, you can get a photo as long as no one else is in the photo. I was like, I don't want to be in this photo.
1:06 Rayna Greenberg? You should have been like, I'm a celebrity if you'd like me to be in that photo.
1:08 Ashley Hesseltine? Get me to host for it. I heard, that's so funny, that I would have heard her say, can we get photos in here? And I'm like, I'll take a photo with her. They're like, this has nothing to do with you.
1:16 Rayna Greenberg? I've had some real humbling moments where somebody's been like, excuse me. And I'm like, yes, it's me. And they're like, can you take a photo of us? I've been really humbled to the ground.
1:24 Ashley Hesseltine? Well, I have a story coming in hot on Monday, that that happened, and it took a turn.
1:29 Rayna Greenberg? You know.
1:30 Ashley Hesseltine? Also, I don't have a watch on today and I feel so naked.
1:34 Rayna Greenberg? Wait, I don't have a watch on today. Where'd my watch go? I had a watch on when I got here.
1:38 Ashley Hesseltine? Oh, can I wear it? Oh, there it is.
1:41 Rayna Greenberg? Yeah.
1:43 Ashley Hesseltine? So can you guys please?
1:45 Rayna Greenberg? If you want to.
1:46 Ashley Hesseltine? I always have a watch on.
1:48 Rayna Greenberg? That would be too dainty for you.
1:49 Ashley Hesseltine? I would have worn one at my wedding if people would have allowed it.
1:51 Rayna Greenberg? I feel like people have had to tell me, like, at fancy events, that I can't wear watches.
1:56 Ashley Hesseltine? But my watch is fancy, both of them.
1:57 Rayna Greenberg? But they're not, it's not dainty.
1:59 Ashley Hesseltine? For sure.
1:59 Rayna Greenberg? Mine's dainty and I still, people have to tell me, like, watches with formal wear don't really go.
2:04 Ashley Hesseltine? I know, but like, I don't have even a scrunchie on. Can you guys please comment on how good my naked wrists look? Just hype me up. Please, I feel so naked.
2:11 Rayna Greenberg? You got that bone popping?
2:12 Ashley Hesseltine? Guys, can I just say one thing? Raina says she feels like she's out on Noah Khan.
2:17 Rayna Greenberg? I didn't say out, I just said like, I was his like, number one fan.
2:20 Ashley Hesseltine? Early days, sixth season.
2:22 Rayna Greenberg? Yes, I made like a playlist just based on like Noah Khan. And then I just feel like I haven't been as into it. I made a folk playlist that I listen to a lot in the morning, like Benson Boone, Noah Khan kind of stuff.
2:32 Ashley Hesseltine? Okay, Raina, have you listened to the new album?
2:36 Rayna Greenberg? I keep promising everybody that I will.
2:38 Ashley Hesseltine? Here's what you need to do.
2:38 Rayna Greenberg? You said it's sad.
2:39 Ashley Hesseltine? No, I love the new album. I love it more than the previous album. I love this album, I listen to it all the time.
2:46 Rayna Greenberg? More than Adele drunk?
2:47 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah, I like it more. And the documentary, and maybe that's why I like the album. So this documentary, Noah Khan on Netflix, I didn't know it existed. I wasn't planning on watching it. Shashank just put it on. He's, he's been, he introduced me to Noah Khan, early days. I mean, that's also his part of the country.
3:03 Rayna Greenberg? He's a, um, what, he's not a Boston boy, he's from New Hampshire.
3:06 Ashley Hesseltine? A New Englander.
3:07 Rayna Greenberg? Yeah, a New England boy.
3:08 Ashley Hesseltine? Yes, both of them. I just love this man so much. Like, I didn't really know much about him. You learn so much about him, he's so vulnerable. He, it's his parents and their divorce and his, like, his dad's health issues and his body insecurities. I really think you should watch it. There's this part where he brings in this little girl with cancer. Shashank didn't cry like that at our wedding.
3:31 Rayna Greenberg? Shashank cried.
3:32 Ashley Hesseltine? Shashank cried, he doesn't cry a lot.
3:34 Rayna Greenberg? I've never seen him cry.
3:35 Ashley Hesseltine? This really tugged at him. Like, this documentary is so wonderful, and I think ever since then, I just love him more. And so maybe that's why I love the album more.
3:43 Rayna Greenberg? All right, well, I'll get, I've been promising myself and everybody that I'll get into this album.
3:45 Ashley Hesseltine? You're not busy enough.
3:46 Rayna Greenberg? No, I don't, we'll talk about Monday, what I'm doing this week, but I got a lot of stuff to do.
3:52 Ashley Hesseltine? All right, well, we can just thank our partners and get right into it. Thank you to BetterHelp, find support in therapy, get 10% off at betterhelp.com/gge. And thank you to Rocket Money, reach your financial goals faster at rocketmoney.com/gge. And we are going to kick it off with a food report. Big food news coming out of everywhere.
4:12 Rayna Greenberg? I saw this and I was like, this will be the most viral thing that happens all week. So Gwyneth Paltrow was on the Today Show, she's making a recipe. And did you watch the, have you seen the whole clip? Do you know why she said this? If not, I will explain it.
4:24 Ashley Hesseltine? No, please explain it to me. And can I just say right off the bat? I saw this clip and I thought it was an old clip that resurfaced.
4:33 Rayna Greenberg? It does feel out of touch.
4:35 Ashley Hesseltine? So, Raina, no, I, hear me out. Do you remember that clip of that lady pouring vodka on the, she was like doing a recipe?
4:40 Rayna Greenberg? Was it Sandra Lee?
4:41 Ashley Hesseltine? Yes, Sandra Lee.
4:43 Rayna Greenberg? I didn't even know, I just guessed because Sandra Lee in her little, sweet little homemaker dress. She just was always like, and all you have to do is just add a little vodka and she would just turn the whole bottle upside down.
4:53 Ashley Hesseltine? Gavin Newsom?
4:54 Rayna Greenberg? Andrew Cuomo.
4:55 Ashley Hesseltine? Andrew Cuomo. I got my governors could be.
4:58 Rayna Greenberg? I don't think they ever got married. I think longtime girlfriends.
5:01 Ashley Hesseltine? Yes, right. They were not married. You're exactly right. Like, so there's this clip of her and it feels old. It is old and she's pouring vodka, whatever, cooking with vodka. I thought this Gwyneth clip was like of that era. It felt so old. It took me a while to register that this was current.
5:18 Rayna Greenberg? Yeah, Sandra Lee hasn't had a show for like 20 years or something, but Gwyneth Paltrow is on the Today Show and she's making this recipe and she says, if you want to avoid dairy, one trick I do is to dice up arugula and put it in. It sounds weird, but just trust me, it works. And you're like.
5:33 Ashley Hesseltine? And she's dead ass.
5:34 Rayna Greenberg? Gwyneth, not now.
5:36 Ashley Hesseltine? Read the room.
5:36 Rayna Greenberg? Could we not? We've lost so much in the last couple of years, Gwyneth. Could we just have cheese?
5:42 Ashley Hesseltine? Okay, is she saying sub for cheese?
5:46 Rayna Greenberg? So I'll, I'll give you the whole, the internet exploded and the comment section is truly the best comedy I've ever witnessed in my entire life. I mean, I feel like Gwyneth Paltrow would get dragged more than this, but she's so committed to this persona. People are not going to have a one-sided beef with her.
6:01 Ashley Hesseltine? Gwyneth can say whatever.
6:03 Rayna Greenberg? She can. I feel like she's just like outside of the cusp of like anybody caring. Also, I love Goop.
6:09 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah.
6:10 Rayna Greenberg? She provides you and I, I've had Goop three times this week.
6:12 Ashley Hesseltine? She was a real OG vibrator pioneer too.
6:15 Rayna Greenberg? Forgot about that.
6:16 Ashley Hesseltine? I just, I love Gwyneth, I always will.
6:18 Rayna Greenberg? So she's making these meatballs and she's saying.
6:23 Ashley Hesseltine? I didn't know all this and like, that's my favorite food and now I'm even more offended.
6:27 Rayna Greenberg? She's saying like, a lot of people don't really want to have dairy. And so crazy thing, if you don't want to have the Parmesan cheese in meatballs, use arugula. And what she meant is the texture and the pepperiness you can kind of get from Parmesan. It's, it's so stupid.
6:46 Ashley Hesseltine? Okay, honestly, I get it now. That's what she was saying.
6:49 Rayna Greenberg? Not, because you hear dairy and you're like, what do you mean? Like, I'm going to substitute arugula for like the cream and mac and cheese?
6:55 Ashley Hesseltine? Yes, 100%. That's what I pictured, milk. But it makes sense. Parmesan and arugula both have that really strong flavor profile. A little, almost like, yeah, pungent. What's the flavor word for pungent? Whatever it is.
7:10 Rayna Greenberg? Pungent is a flavor word.
7:12 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah, it was a smell word.
7:13 Rayna Greenberg? Oh, that's a good point. Um, peppery.
7:16 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah, almost.
7:18 Rayna Greenberg? Like a biting, a biting sourness.
7:20 Ashley Hesseltine? It's got a bite to it.
7:21 Rayna Greenberg? The comments on this was just, I mean, it was truly some of the best comedy I've ever witnessed on the internet.
7:28 Ashley Hesseltine? Okay, while you're finding them, so my husband has an app called Kitchen Sync and on his Instagram, I didn't even see this. He was on his own journey. People probably thought this was me, but Anna Royzman, who we've had on the show, commented on our burrito video, our latest video we did. And he wrote back, you can sub arugula for cheese. I was like, okay, King. Got involved. So funny. She was, she texted me like, this is so funny. I'm like, I didn't even know he did that.
7:50 Rayna Greenberg? All these businesses have like gotten on it. It's my favorite thing in the world. Sometimes when I want a salad, I make a margarita instead.
7:58 Rayna Greenberg? I love that. I sprinkle arugula all over my cereal instead of milk. Not today, Gwyneth. Gwyneth Corr always put a long fucking day. She's smoking arugula.
8:08 Ashley Hesseltine? Arugula like as a milkshake. Like I just, I'm thinking of all the things. I immediately, my mind goes to milk, obviously, when I hear dairies. It was subbing arugula when you should be using milk.
8:21 Rayna Greenberg? I wish this was my joke. If this was my Instacart shopper, they're out of milk, would you like to substitute your arugula?
8:28 Ashley Hesseltine? There is some Instacart shoppers out there that probably had a field day with this.
8:34 Rayna Greenberg? I'm so jealous of that joke.
8:36 Ashley Hesseltine? That's so funny.
8:37 Rayna Greenberg? I mean, it's just crazy because I think that like any other kind of pretentious, I live in Brantwood, white woman would have gotten dragged all over the internet forever. And I think people really are just like, Gwyneth is gonna Gwyneth.
8:49 Ashley Hesseltine? But it, once you explained it to me, it made sense. Like, when I first heard this, Gwyneth suggests subbing arugula for dairy. I was like, that is the most out of pocket thing I've ever heard in food in my life. And you explain it, makes sense. Instacart and Postmates, they always send funny push notifications. They all should have capitalized on this. Like, Postmates should have been like craving arugula, or craving.
9:10 Rayna Greenberg? Craving pizza.
9:11 Ashley Hesseltine? Craving pizza, or craving meatballs, or Instacart. Like, I just think it's so funny.
9:16 Rayna Greenberg? It was a missed marketing opportunity if you work in food.
9:18 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah, maybe they did. Maybe I missed it. But they, they do a great job. I love those funny push notifications. Okay, let's move on to dot cakes.
9:25 Rayna Greenberg? Okay, so there's these cakes, they've been around for many years, dot cake. And they were at Butterfield Market, and people started waiting in line for hours. People are saying this is one of the longest lines like ever clocked for food. And that's saying something because in New York City, I mean, people wait in line for an hour and a half for a fucking bagel. Yeah.
9:43 Ashley Hesseltine? Just memory unlocked. I literally did that once. I didn't see it coming.
9:46 Rayna Greenberg? Where'd you wait?
9:46 Ashley Hesseltine? This was like, early days in Shoshone. It was the first trip to New York, and I took them to Tompkins Square Bagel. And I, Raina, I would never have done this in my life, but the line was deceiving. So I thought we were gonna get in there and it was gonna, I don't remember exactly the logistics, but somehow, it was an hour. That's crazy. And I'm not, and it was like, by the time we realized how long the line actually was, it was wrapping around like we were Disney World, waiting in line to get on a ride. And by the time we really clocked it, we'd been in line, we'd, whatever, we also like knew, fallen for each other. Like, we just like, and now it's like, you're both pretending to be like.
10:19 Rayna Greenberg? Good people.
10:19 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah, yeah. No, we were talking our shit. But anyway, so yeah, people will wait.
10:24 Rayna Greenberg? So these dot cakes, they're these cute little cups. They come in lots of different flavors, chocolate vanilla, red velvet, it looks lovely. They've been around for years.
10:30 Ashley Hesseltine? And this. But just started being sold at Butterfield.
10:33 Rayna Greenberg? I think so.
10:34 Ashley Hesseltine? They had their own little storefront. So it's this mother and daughter, I believe. They had their own. Storefront that was manageable and then they brought them into Butterfield, which by the way Butterfield, I've been salivating over for years. Sophia eats NYC, this little cutie. I think she must do their, so she's involved with them in some way. So remember she would always be posting their stuff and I want all of it. So I've just been a fan for years, but that's what I feel like caused the hype.
10:57 Rayna Greenberg? The hype and I don't know if they were sending them to all these influencers. The first person I saw, I think it was acquired style. She slides it into the screen. She has like 18 of them on the screen. She's like, I have all these dot cakes.
11:08 Ashley Hesseltine? Wealth hoarding.
11:08 Rayna Greenberg? Yeah.
11:09 Ashley Hesseltine? They are eight dollars for a little cake.
11:11 Rayna Greenberg? That's it, right? I want one so bad. I am a cake slut. You know this, I have a secret cake life and I want one so bad.
11:18 Ashley Hesseltine? I do too.
11:19 Rayna Greenberg? I'm crazy and you and I could just go make it right. We could go to Air One right now and make it.
11:23 Ashley Hesseltine? I, here's the thing that is so surprising to me is that the sprinkles don't come off when you put your spoon in and the way that people are making these videos, they drag your utensil across the top to show that it's kind of this like hard shell on the top that sprinkles. I'm not even a sprinkle person.
11:40 Rayna Greenberg? I like those little crunchy sprinkles.
11:41 Ashley Hesseltine? But yeah, so you get the moist cake with this crunch. I can't stop thinking about it and people are hating on waiting in that line. If you want to wait in line for something for hours that brings you joy, fucking do it. What else are you doing scrolling? Like, I don't care. Like if, if you want to and you, and A, if you're an influencer and you're going to make content and this is going to benefit your business, but if not, you just want to have this thing to say you did it. What, do it then.
12:08 Rayna Greenberg? That's so true. I could either do it in a line, I could scroll in a line or could scroll in my bed.
12:12 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah.
12:12 Rayna Greenberg? And that looks delicious.
12:14 Ashley Hesseltine? I want one so bad.
12:15 Rayna Greenberg? But like, I couldn't understand what was happening on Saturday. It was.
12:18 Ashley Hesseltine? Did you see the line in person?
12:20 Rayna Greenberg? No, no, no, I was here. Um, I was scrolling Instagram and I was like, every single thing on my phone is this fucking dot cake. Like what is happening?
12:27 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah. And I mean, there's always been that culture, New York being like the top, where there's just so many places that people are doing this. You just walk around New York, you see lines on a Saturday. A line just got, get into a good store. You know, whatever it may be, a new sneaker drop. There's always a line and then food, especially a line for Salt Hanks wrapped around the block.
12:46 Rayna Greenberg? Like Apollo bagels, crazy. You and I just walked in. Not my fave.
12:50 Ashley Hesseltine? But.
12:51 Rayna Greenberg? Not my fave.
12:51 Ashley Hesseltine? I heard people are waiting in line for hours for this frozen yogurt.
12:55 Rayna Greenberg? Yeah, so.
12:56 Ashley Hesseltine? What is this?
12:56 Rayna Greenberg? Yogurt. Um, it's just like Greek frozen yogurt.
12:59 Ashley Hesseltine? So whatever you want to do, whatever brings you joy. To me, that is so strange to me because like the dot cake has novelty. Like, why is the frozen yogurt so different about it? Maybe I'm missing something.
13:12 Rayna Greenberg? I wish I could speak to it more. I mean, maybe their toppings are great. People are saying it is one of the best frozen yogurts you could. To me, there's a real ceiling to frozen yogurts.
13:21 Ashley Hesseltine? Agreed.
13:21 Rayna Greenberg? I don't.
13:22 Ashley Hesseltine? What is it called? People are gonna want to know. Myka? M Y K A. And then that's currently the most viral spot. It originated in Madrid. It uses a thick creamy blend of authentic Greek yogurt and kefir. I mean, it sounds dank. And then you can have baklava, crushed pistachios. This sounds incredible. And then there's Go Greek in NoHo and then Mimi's as well. I think there's lines outside a lot of these, but.
13:47 Rayna Greenberg? M Y K A, Mika or Mika, this Greek one that's just, it's like exploded. The toppings look good as fuck.
13:53 Ashley Hesseltine? No, it looks amazing. Like, I, I really don't want to shade people for spending their time, how they want to spend it.
14:00 Rayna Greenberg? It's just, I'm not gonna do it and I don't care what other people do.
14:03 Ashley Hesseltine? But I want that cake.
14:05 Rayna Greenberg? I really want that cake.
14:06 Ashley Hesseltine? It's people, it's funny that people are doing like giveaways. People are stocking up like it's fucking Labubus.
14:11 Rayna Greenberg? I've never seen anything like it with my entire feed.
14:12 Ashley Hesseltine? There's a resale market for dot cakes.
14:14 Rayna Greenberg? But how did every influencer on Instagram, every single person got this?
14:18 Ashley Hesseltine? I know. I think that it's got this ASMR vibe where you hear the sound first and then you see. I love watching these and I am dying for one.
14:27 Rayna Greenberg? It is, seems like alien that none of the little dots come off of it.
14:31 Ashley Hesseltine? That I know. Cause the first time I was like, okay, what? Cake with sprinkles? Who cares?
14:35 Rayna Greenberg? I like that crunchy when you bite into them.
14:37 Ashley Hesseltine? That's what I'm go after. Is that crunch with the moistness.
14:41 Rayna Greenberg? What I'm after. That's what I'm about. I just, I think it's funny, like what you wait in line for. I would say of all the extreme lines in New York City, the people are just like in lines for, Salt Hanks is probably the thing I understand the most just because like, you can't actually walk down the street and find that somewhere else. Like, bagels in New York City is a crazy thing to wait in line for.
15:01 Ashley Hesseltine? Hundred percent. Like, I can't believe I've done it. Like, again, it was a mistake, but.
15:05 Rayna Greenberg? I do it at Tompkins. I waited in line for like 30 minutes at Tompkins the other day, but I'm not, I'm not in New York that much.
15:11 Ashley Hesseltine? No, no. What were you did? There's so many.
15:13 Rayna Greenberg? I was in Union Square. I was like walking somewhere and I was just like, I want a bagel. And it didn't look too bad. I mean, there was like 40 people in line, but in New York, they just get those people through.
15:21 Ashley Hesseltine? I also just think this is a do it for the plot type of thing. Like, you and your friend, you and your bestie, you and your man, your girl, your dog, you guys waited in line for four hours for this fucking cake. Was it worth it? Share the story. You're gonna get good engagement if that's what you're after, or you're just gonna get a nice little sweet treat. Live your truth.
15:40 Rayna Greenberg? I wonder what I would be. So, you know, I started, if you guys are like newer here, I was a food blogger and that's how I left my job at Amazon and became an influencer and eventually met Ashley. And like, I was food influencing before that was like cool to do it. Like, it was not cool to be taking photos of your food. It annoyed everybody all the time. I wonder what I would be like today if I was like doing it. Like, I never had to like, yeah, I never had to wait in line. I never had to like, people didn't care about food that much back then. It wasn't like, there weren't these viral lines for anything. I wanted something, I went and got it that minute.
16:10 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah, but you were, it's TikTok.
16:13 Rayna Greenberg? It is TikTok.
16:14 Ashley Hesseltine? You were a food influencer before TikTok.
16:15 Rayna Greenberg? Maybe, I mean, years before. And like, I also never had problems like getting, like, restaurants were not shelling out free food for every social media influencer on the planet. So I would DM people and be like, can I come in? And they'd be like, yeah, no one ever asks.
16:28 Ashley Hesseltine? Right.
16:29 Rayna Greenberg? We'll load you up.
16:30 Ashley Hesseltine? You did it right.
16:31 Rayna Greenberg? I did.
16:31 Ashley Hesseltine? It was a great era. Same with me, to be an influencer with Rosebean Basic. Like, oh, the golden years.
16:36 Rayna Greenberg? And then same with, we started podcasting.
16:38 Ashley Hesseltine? I know. Guys, listen. Follow us for more career advice. Okay, Songs of the Summer. So Spotify put out their pics and they made a playlist.
16:50 Rayna Greenberg? I'm glad you brought this up. So you you put on our outline, the Spotify Songs of Summer, and I like linked the article and I was like trying to find this playlist on Spotify and I couldn't find it. So I was clicking into each song individually from the article and you were like, there's a playlist.
17:04 Ashley Hesseltine? Okay, so I'm gonna be honest with you. At first, I was like, I couldn't find it either. And I was like, I'm gonna have to listen to all these songs individually to be able to report on it. And then I was like, there's no way there's not a playlist. There's no way Spotify didn't make it a playlist. I just couldn't find it. So anyway, it's titled Songs of Summer, The Songs of Summer 2026, as chosen by Spotify editors, but we can link it for you guys. But yeah, there's, I don't know how many songs. There's an hour and 38 minutes worth of songs. And are you supposed to vote?
17:34 Rayna Greenberg? I just, I think it's just whatever gets the most listens.
17:36 Ashley Hesseltine? Okay.
17:37 Rayna Greenberg? And it'll tally it. So I, I mean, I just, I enjoyed it. It's very dancey. Spotify said 2025 was like low energy, not a lot of dance music. This year, more dance music.
17:44 Ashley Hesseltine? There is some dancey tunes there, but it's a mix. There's a little bit of country, a little bit of reggaeton. There's some slower stuff.
17:51 Rayna Greenberg? Reggaeton.
17:52 Ashley Hesseltine? I, what do you say?
17:54 Rayna Greenberg? Not something cooler than that.
17:55 Ashley Hesseltine? Reggaeton?
17:56 Rayna Greenberg? Reggaeton.
17:57 Ashley Hesseltine? Reggaeton?
17:58 Rayna Greenberg? Regga.
17:58 Ashley Hesseltine? Here's my take. I don't think we can pick the song of the summer. It picks us. You can't force this. I'm personally still chasing the high of 2024, A Bar Song by Shaboozie. That is a perfect song of the summer. Let's take it back 2014, Fancy by Iggy Azalea. Like, you remember when they really were the song of the summer and they weren't forced on us? So last year, if you guys remember, there was no actual song of the summer.
18:26 Rayna Greenberg? Wow.
18:26 Ashley Hesseltine? The unofficial song of the summer was Jet 2 Holiday. And I looked this up. Guess what the internet and probably Spotify, whoever said last year's song of the summer was? Just guess, just take a guess. My number one cause that I amplify is this song.
18:41 Rayna Greenberg? Your number one cause, pets?
18:43 Ashley Hesseltine? No, like, it's
18:44 Rayna Greenberg? Fostering old pets.
18:45 Ashley Hesseltine? No, like, in terms of music, this is a cause that I've been speaking out against.
18:50 Rayna Greenberg? Against?
18:51 Ashley Hesseltine? Yes.
18:52 Rayna Greenberg? Yes. Country music.
18:54 Ashley Hesseltine? No, a song.
18:56 Rayna Greenberg? Your number one song?
18:57 Ashley Hesseltine? That I speak out about.
18:59 Rayna Greenberg? That you speak out about.
19:01 Ashley Hesseltine? Is it Morgan Wallen?
19:03 Rayna Greenberg? No. Is it, um, Post Malone?
19:06 Ashley Hesseltine? No. You're just making people. You know this, I'm gonna say you're gonna know, because I've put out content about this and I've spoken about on this podcast.
19:17 Rayna Greenberg? You know I have a bad memory.
19:18 Ashley Hesseltine? Ordinary by Alex Warren.
19:21 Rayna Greenberg? That's insane.
19:21 Ashley Hesseltine? The audacity.
19:22 Rayna Greenberg? That's on my folk playlist with Noah Khan.
19:25 Ashley Hesseltine? The way the music industry shoved that song down our throats for a year.
19:29 Rayna Greenberg? We didn't want it.
19:30 Ashley Hesseltine? It's not even a summer bop.
19:31 Rayna Greenberg? We didn't want it and we certainly didn't want it in the summer.
19:33 Ashley Hesseltine? No one has ever gotten off a plane in Mexico and been like, hand me a margarita and put on Ordinary by Alex Warren.
19:40 Rayna Greenberg? It's not a Q3 and it is a ridiculous thing to force down our throats.
19:44 Ashley Hesseltine? That's not vacation vibes. That's not slutty vibes. That's not beach vibes.
19:48 Rayna Greenberg? I listen to it in the morning when I'm waking up with Benson Boone and O'Conne.
19:51 Ashley Hesseltine? I've never listened to it intentionally, but Spotify said it was my most played song of 2025 and that's my conspiracy. I fucking, this song.
19:58 Rayna Greenberg? Industry plant.
19:59 Ashley Hesseltine? He's not though. He is just like, sad story. I looked into him because I was like, clearly he's a nepo baby industry plant. He's like, not. And this isn't even about the song. The song's fine, but the way they shoved it down our throat, the audacity to call that the song of the summer last year.
20:11 Rayna Greenberg? It's not a summer bop. Get out of here. A white man? A white man cannot, I'm sorry, they can't do the songs for the summer. Post Malone can be on a track.
20:21 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
20:22 Rayna Greenberg? Morgan Wallen could maybe be on a track.
20:24 Ashley Hesseltine? He was 2023 with.
20:28 Rayna Greenberg? Last night we let the liquor talk.
20:30 Ashley Hesseltine? That's a little too slow for me. I need more upbeat for a song of the summer.
20:34 Rayna Greenberg? That's not a song of the summer to me.
20:36 Ashley Hesseltine? I agree.
20:37 Rayna Greenberg? That's on my country playlist.
20:39 Ashley Hesseltine? Flowers by Miley Cyrus, but that came out months before summer because I remember we had just moved here.
20:43 Rayna Greenberg? It's a spring song.
20:44 Ashley Hesseltine? Spring, song of the spring. So here's what I think. Again, we can't pick the song if it's gonna pick us, but Drake putting out three albums is meaningful. Be right before the summer.
20:55 Rayna Greenberg? Is there a bop?
20:56 Ashley Hesseltine? So Spotify on the playlist has Janis. That seems to be the most popular song. I think it's Shebang and I don't know if you know these, but Shebang.
21:08 Ashley Hesseltine? Manisha on the beach, shebang. All of my ops, they did.
21:12 Rayna Greenberg? But you know, you don't sing songs to the right tune. So I don't know.
21:14 Ashley Hesseltine? That's accurate. Why do they gas me up? Where does it go in my head?
21:20 Rayna Greenberg? Okay, I like this. I could pop.
21:21 Ashley Hesseltine? I'm seeing a lot of people do reels and TikToks to it and like shebang has a real summer vibe to me as opposed to Janice. And so, or I've mentioned this before, Ho Phase. What better song for summer than Ho Phase? So these are my picks. I mean, I, you know, I like the Drake's albums that he just dropped. The timing is right, but I'm not advocating for him. Like we'll know it when we know it and we might not get it.
21:42 Rayna Greenberg? It will come to us. And also.
21:43 Ashley Hesseltine? Or not. We don't deserve it.
21:45 Rayna Greenberg? It's not a great concert summer for me either. Like I feel that I really did not experience the concerts I should have last year. And I had a lot of guilt about that. And I was like, this year is my year to spend all my money on concerts. And there's not a lot.
21:57 Ashley Hesseltine? I don't even know who's really touring.
21:58 Rayna Greenberg? That's what I'm saying. There's not a lot of people touring.
22:00 Ashley Hesseltine? We're seeing Dermot Kennedy, but that's in the fall. I think Noah Khan is touring.
22:05 Rayna Greenberg? Noah Khan is touring.
22:05 Ashley Hesseltine? But are they baseball fields? Like.
22:07 Rayna Greenberg? And MGK is touring, sort of. But like, he's been on tour for a super long time. So I think these are just like the last couple of stops.
22:14 Ashley Hesseltine? Um, Kid Cudi, Dave Matthews Band.
22:18 Rayna Greenberg? I'm gonna pass.
22:19 Ashley Hesseltine? Uh, Usher and Chris Brown, if people have, that's the big one. Obviously controversial. And then I would see My Chemical Romance. I love that shit. I would go see My Chemical Romance.
22:29 Rayna Greenberg? But I think that's an older band. So you're right. There's really not a lot. I mean, I really was committed to a lot of concerts this summer and the world is not committed to that happening for me.
22:37 Ashley Hesseltine? This is crazy.
22:39 Rayna Greenberg? Did you see that people are saying that Taylor Swift is gonna get married in MSG?
22:45 Rayna Greenberg? I don't hate it. And hear me out, there's no windows. I get it. Like she's just, you know, he's, he's an athlete. I don't understand the connections in New York, but like I've heard these rumors and I was just like, I do get it. There is like entrances underground. No helicopters.
23:03 Ashley Hesseltine? Makes me sad. No. She needs to be outside.
23:07 Rayna Greenberg? Yeah, but like helicopters.
23:08 Ashley Hesseltine? In the prairie.
23:09 Rayna Greenberg? I do feel what you're saying, but like it's gonna be the most like paparazzi wedding of all time in like history.
23:15 Ashley Hesseltine? Okay, you're right. Yeah, I guess you're right. She can't be outside. Okay, yeah. These Taylor Swift rumors have to stop, you guys. We thought she was in Dewey Beach last week and I, she may have been, but like the whole town was a buzz. So there was a wedding last week and I know this girl that got married, she actually, speaking of cakes, made my mom's 70th birthday cake and she's like a listener of the show and stuff and she married this guy who I think is from Cincinnati with Travis, a good friend of Travis, all over his Instagram, genuinely friends with Travis Kelsey. So everybody assumed Taylor and Travis would be at the wedding and they may, I don't think that they were, my brother got reports that they weren't, my brother was not at the wedding. But the rumors in the town were that they were in Dewey Beach, that they tried to go to the Rusty Rudder, but it was too packed. Not that they can't get in, but it's just too packed for them to be there and that they had.
23:59 Rayna Greenberg? It would cause a mob scene.
24:01 Ashley Hesseltine? And that they had rented out Starboard Raw for the after-party of the wedding. And I think the couple actually did, but people thought Taylor and Travis rented out Starboard Raw, the whole town thought this. And then Starboard Raw posted an Instagram story, we're closed tonight at 11 for a private party. What a rush. And my brother was like, I'll be there. I know everybody in the town, you know, I don't work for Starboard anymore, but obviously in the, they weren't there. And it was just like, everybody in the town was like convinced. I was losing my mind over it.
24:29 Rayna Greenberg? I would have gone, I was like, actually, I'm still at Alix, I will fly back there. But also, like, do you remember when she went to Jack Antonoff's wedding last year in Rhode Island? And like the mobs of people that like stormed the streets, like she can't be in public, like, and it's weird that she can do that in New York City and she's going to all these restaurants. They roll around like normal people.
24:48 Ashley Hesseltine? Well, that's what I said to my brother. My brother was like, there's no way she can be in Dewey. And I'm like, she's running around New York every night of the week. But it's different. That's, people in New York are used to her, just like people in LA, like Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey in Dewey Beach. I don't know, though, I want to give the people more credit that they're like super chill. But still, I mean, there's been celebs in Dewey. I remember Vince Vaughn was there once and people like left him alone, but I can't imagine her at the fucking Rusty Rudder.
25:14 Rayna Greenberg? I would not be chill. I would not be chill at all where I used to work.
25:18 Ashley Hesseltine? Okay. Do you want to talk about our partners?
25:20 Rayna Greenberg? Oh, yeah.
25:21 Ashley Hesseltine? We will get back into it.
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26:48 Rayna Greenberg? It's crazy.
26:48 Ashley Hesseltine? Which I knew, like, I canceled my Hulu and we use his and, but like, we both have Netflix. What are we doing?
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28:21 Rayna Greenberg? Okay, tons of TV and movie news. Euphoria, thank God, is over. They ended the third season. People are like, maybe they're doing a fourth. No, let's be done with this.
28:32 Ashley Hesseltine? I'm dead, right?
28:34 Rayna Greenberg? They did, so spoiler.
28:35 Ashley Hesseltine? All of my ops, they did. Shang.
28:41 Ashley Hesseltine? Shang.
28:42 Rayna Greenberg? See, it's growing on you. No, it's just your version, Taylor's version. So spoilers ahead. I just have to say, this wasn't just one of the worst finales I've ever seen. It was one of the worst episodes of television I've ever seen. It's one of the worst seasons of television I've ever seen. And I, I hated the finale so much and it wasn't like one of these like, you know, you can't ever satisfy anybody. Like some of my favorite shows of all time, The Sopranos, Mad Men, Girls and The Office, they're my four favorite shows. Like I spent years of my life with these people and you want them to like, you want to honor that with a great finale. I don't even care about that with Euphoria. I was like, can we just wrap up some of these storylines with like some, like.
29:23 Ashley Hesseltine? With some respect?
29:24 Rayna Greenberg? With some respect, yes.
29:25 Ashley Hesseltine? Put some respect on their names?
29:26 Rayna Greenberg? And I realized also another thing I hate about this show, not only is it a complete departure from the original show, which I made peace with. All the people in the show seem to be in a different show as well. So they said that so many of these people were so busy, so many actors, they couldn't film with each other. Nate never films, Jacob Elordi never films with another person on the cast except for Cassie, except for in one episode. I mean, he is in like a gangster mob movie where he's just like getting shook down. Then you have this like drug cartel show in the Wild West with Rue. And then you have this like kind of funny OnlyFans plotline with Sydney Sweeney. Lexi is working for a Hollywood studio. They never give Lexi or Jules a storyline at all. They're just like, give them a few lines, that's it.
30:10 Rayna Greenberg? They don't give them a storyline, which is really disappointing to me.
30:13 Ashley Hesseltine? Was that Maude Appetow?
30:14 Rayna Greenberg? Yes. They obviously killed off Jacob Elordi last week. I don't care.
30:18 Ashley Hesseltine? Well, I didn't, I see these memes. I follow all the accounts that cover all this stuff. And when you told me yesterday, they killed off Jacob Elordi weeks ago. I was like, what? What do you, how?
30:30 Rayna Greenberg? It's funny you missed that.
30:31 Ashley Hesseltine? I don't know how I missed it. I mean, I also think people are aware of spoilers, you know, these accounts. So maybe it just, it wasn't, it might've been like deeper in a carousel or something, whatever. I just missed it completely.
30:44 Rayna Greenberg? But you know, I saw this person say this and it was really interesting. The first two seasons of Euphoria, and I know you never really got into it, but one of the hallmarks of that show is that every character sort of gets like an episode where they tell you about their whole backstory. And how they grew up and why they are the way they are. And it's a really deep dive into like the human psyche of like why people grow up and become who they are. It's one of my favorite things about the show. And the third season, it's like, there's no character development. It's not like this is how we got here in the last four years. It's just like, here it is. Rue is in the drug cartel. And then they have all these extra characters that, there was like nobody from the main show except for like Maddie, even in the last 30 minutes. We watched an hour of it and I was like, this has to be over. And then they were like, nope, another hour.
31:23 Ashley Hesseltine? Two hours?
31:24 Rayna Greenberg? Two hour finale.
31:25 Ashley Hesseltine? I mean, do you feel like these directors or whoever the fuck were just like, fuck it? Just go completely off the rails?
31:31 Rayna Greenberg? Do everything.
31:32 Ashley Hesseltine? Why? Who cares?
31:34 Rayna Greenberg? I just think there's so many shows.
31:35 Ashley Hesseltine? I'm not saying that's what the audience wanted to see.
31:36 Rayna Greenberg? It's like the, I, I don't even know what to compare it to, how bad it is. I told you like, and just like that was, I was like, I could hate watch this and still enjoy myself. I couldn't even hate watch it. So it's over. Thank God. They wrapped up every storyline with the dumbest possible way. They basically didn't wrap up most of the storylines.
31:52 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah.
31:53 Rayna Greenberg? But you don't even care because they didn't really tell you why any of the characters are the way they are now.
31:57 Ashley Hesseltine? Mm hmm.
31:58 Rayna Greenberg? So that's, that's my feelings and thoughts. And I think that's the overall, I've, I've never seen one person be like, it's good.
32:03 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah, I saw a couple of people, but I don't know. Maybe they knew, had a personal connection. They're not like us. Well, speaking of a perfect series finale, on the flip side was Hacks. And this was weeks ago, but I just wanted to speak on it because this is one of my favorite shows of all time. I would say this is one of my top five favorite shows of all time is Hacks. And this last season was incredible. I loved it so, so much. I mean, there's a different theme of every season. I've loved every season. Last season was the late night show. And this season was like Deborah getting back out there and supposed to perform at MSG. Raina, just spoiler alerts ahead, this is weeks old. Watch the finale because of this, you mentioned MSG. The thing that happens is you have to just watch it and you'll pick up on what's been going on. I mean, I hate that you gave up on the show, but like,
32:47 Ashley Hesseltine? you have to watch this finale because of this thing that happens to her. And it's like the most irrational fear a performer could have. And so I really want you to watch it. It ends in New York. No, you're not even ready. And I saw it coming and I knew it was about to happen. And I was like, oh my God. And then it ends in New York and it's just perfect. And I think they wrapped the season up perfectly. And that's what most people are saying. And I also just want to say in this last season, there's an episode, I think it's called Montecito or whatever. They're in Montecito. And it is one of the funniest episodes of television I've ever seen. I've never heard Shashank laugh out loud that much. He loves the show too. But like laugh out loud multiple times. Leslie Bibb is in it.
33:26 Ashley Hesseltine? And they're at this lesbian couple's house and they have to pretend to be lesbians. And it is one of the funniest things. Like you're watching it and you're like, what I would do to be in that writer's room. Like how jealous to come up with these storylines. And I just wanted to say like, I love the show. I'm sad it's over. End of an era and they wrapped it up perfectly. And again, that specific episode is one of the best episodes of TV I've ever seen.
33:47 Rayna Greenberg? It's a nice feeling. It's a nice feeling to feel like I dedicated all these years to these people.
33:50 Ashley Hesseltine? Well, that's different between this woman run show and Sam Levinson.
33:54 Rayna Greenberg? Sam Levinson was just like Sydney Sweeney's tits. Get it on the screen.
33:57 Ashley Hesseltine? It's just such a, such a huge difference. Okay. So we want to talk about the crash on Netflix. Why don't you guys watch it and let's just deep dive next week. I have so much to say. I'm obsessed with this and it's like taking over my Tik Tok. And so watch the crash on Netflix, you guys. That's your assignment. It's like 90 minutes. Yeah, it's a quick documentary.
34:13 Rayna Greenberg? Fascinating.
34:14 Ashley Hesseltine? And if you really want to get more, there's a show called Mean Girl Murders.
34:18 Rayna Greenberg? Oh.
34:18 Ashley Hesseltine? That's about the same story.
34:20 Rayna Greenberg? Is it a bunch of different?
34:21 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah. And it was on like Investigation Discovery Channel, but you can see it on Hulu. So if you.
34:25 Rayna Greenberg? Are you sure you don't want to talk about this?
34:26 Ashley Hesseltine? I just, we're running out of time and I want to like to talk about obsession. Just you guys watch it because then we can talk about it together next week. Okay?
34:33 Rayna Greenberg? There's so much more. Also Love Island starts today as we're recording. We're going to go to the premiere. So Ashley and I are committed. I said this year, I was committed to getting into Love Island and we are actually going to the premiere.
34:42 Ashley Hesseltine? We're going to premiere night, so we're locked in.
34:44 Rayna Greenberg? So we have to watch it.
34:45 Ashley Hesseltine? Are we going to have to like pretend tonight that we've been watching it? I will be watching it. Like I don't want to get trapped in like a situation where someone's like, so what's your favorite?
34:55 Rayna Greenberg? I'll jump in. Just, just say I'm a mommy.
34:58 Ashley Hesseltine? Okay. We'll end this discussion with obsession, but anyway, Summer House reunion part two has happened and we're not going to go back in after we watch it. So we're recording this before it airs. And so we'll, you know, we will have seen what happens at this point. And if it's anything crazy, then we'll address it next week.
35:11 Rayna Greenberg? Yeah.
35:12 Ashley Hesseltine? Amanda's fuck ass bun has been going viral.
35:15 Rayna Greenberg? Why do I keep saying fuck ass?
35:16 Ashley Hesseltine? Everybody calls it that. Everybody calls it a fuck ass bun.
35:19 Rayna Greenberg? I've been saying fuck ass about everything, but it's, it started with the bun.
35:22 Ashley Hesseltine? There's a bunch of stuff that people are calling her like ha, it's a ponytail she hasn't pulled through. And she did it at the reunion and she's, it's international. She's in Italy with the fuck ass bun. What is happening?
35:34 Rayna Greenberg? I don't, I actually like, I think of her as being very stylish. I like really emulate her style. And she is able to do very like quiet luxury and she wears stuff that surprises me all the time. And I will watch her on seasons of shows that were filmed like eight months ago. And I'm like, she's wearing the trends eight months ago that are good today. And this. Blew me away. What are we doing?
35:55 Ashley Hesseltine? It's a real choice and I don't get it. Like, I think people really hate it because it it's looks like your ponytail isn't pulled through. Like, people are like, oh, my God, I just want to shake you and pull your ponytail through.
36:05 Rayna Greenberg? I do that when I'm cleaning the dishes and I like, I want to get my hair out of my face.
36:09 Ashley Hesseltine? I don't understand the choice. The funniest thing I saw was I got an ad served to me from Facetune that were like, basically put her in a bunch of different hairstyles and they were like, why would she do this when there's so many other options? It was an ad. They paid to promote it. It's still on their TikTok. So if you guys go to Facetune's TikTok, you will see them. You can do this in the app with yourself. A bunch of different hairstyles all look amazing. She would look great with short hair. I mean, we're not fans of her, but I'm just, I don't understand this hairstyle choice.
36:37 Rayna Greenberg? But she, she never does a lot with her hair. It's usually just like down and kind of straight and that looks great.
36:41 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah. Well, what is this rad tail?
36:43 Rayna Greenberg? I don't understand. And like, honestly, like, we already had enough to hate on, you know, like, did you have to give us more?
36:48 Ashley Hesseltine? Rage bait.
36:49 Rayna Greenberg? Seriously?
36:50 Ashley Hesseltine? Her and West, the way they look is rage bait.
36:52 Rayna Greenberg? She like put her hair back like, I'm, I'm about to fight everybody on this stage. Hold my hoops.
36:56 Ashley Hesseltine? That's so funny. You put your hair on. Okay. So I saw Obsession. Raina didn't.
37:05 Rayna Greenberg? I just, I, I want to watch it so bad because I love all the trailers and the memes and it looks so good, but I, I'm not a scary movie person. And maybe if I had a boyfriend that was a scary movie person, I'd watch it with them, but I can't watch it and then go to sleep alone in a house at night.
37:20 Ashley Hesseltine? So I used to love horror movies so much. We always say this, Scream is like our favorite movie. I have liked them less and less over the years. I don't seek out horror at all. I like psychological thrillers so much, but I don't like violence and gore and blood. And you don't really get a horror movie without that, or else it's a psychological thriller, but categorically. So I knew this was going to have some gore. A few people, I, I polled on Instagram and people were like, you should be fine. Half the people were like, you're probably not, girl. Maybe you shouldn't go. But I just, I've been hearing about it. Our friend Taylor was like, you've got to see this. And so we went and saw it. So a few things up top about the stats. Currently, right now, at the top of the box office are these two films by these 20 something dudes. So one is called Back Rooms, was a YouTube
38:02 Ashley Hesseltine? series, a horror series by Kane Parsons, who's 20 years old, YouTuber and filmmaker. And then A24 did back the film. It was $10 million budget. It opened on May 29th to $81.5 million domestic and 118 million worldwide.
38:16 Rayna Greenberg? It's insane.
38:17 Ashley Hesseltine? On 10 million, but more impressively, just numbers wise is Obsession. So Curry Barker, 26, YouTuber and filmmaker. He wrote and directed this 20 days on $750,000. And it's earned 106 million domestically. As of, it opened May 15th, 148 million worldwide. I mean, this is probably growing as we speak. And grew with the box office in both its second and third weekends. This is insane. This stuff impresses me like beyond belief.
38:49 Rayna Greenberg? It's insane.
38:50 Ashley Hesseltine? Under a million, 20 days? What do you mean 20 days?
38:52 Rayna Greenberg? And I just feel like we're in this like horrible era of movies where there's like, listen, we love Anne Hathaway, but they can't cast her enough. And Nicole Kidman too, we love them, they're incredible actresses. I would like someone else to get a turn. And so like in an era where like only four people ever get opportunities. It's nice to see someone else, the little guy get a win.
39:11 Ashley Hesseltine? And these actors you've never seen before.
39:13 Rayna Greenberg? Yes.
39:13 Ashley Hesseltine? A lot of commentary about that was like, this is proof we want fresh actors. Like the lead actress who plays Nikki in the film, like people are going crazy for her. Like this was, she was incredible. So the bottom line is this guy, he, this super insecure dude, like obsessed with his friend, his like best friend, her name's Nikki. And he, I don't need to go all through it, but he makes a wish with this thing. He gets at a gift shop, it's called a One Wish Willow. And he wishes that she would love him. His actual wish, like he verbalizes, I wish she would love me more than anyone else in the world. And it takes a turn and she turns completely unhinged and, and dangerous. And again, it's like a wild ride. It's a little bit of a slow start.
39:57 Ashley Hesseltine? And there are so many elements to it. And I will say, I, I, watching it and knowing what I knew about it, I appreciated it. I respected it. It kept my attention most of the time. Again, it was kind of a slow start. I did not like it, but like it was really disturbing. I mean, we had to kind of come down afterwards. We went and got drinks, like I couldn't stop thinking about it. And I have liked it so much more after the fact. Reading all of the interviews with the director and the think pieces about it. And just like what it's really about and like what you were supposed to take away from it.
40:27 Rayna Greenberg? What are you supposed to take away from it?
40:28 Ashley Hesseltine? So.
40:28 Rayna Greenberg? It's type two fun for you, by the way?
40:30 Ashley Hesseltine? Yes, exactly. I thought of you saying that. So there's a take from, obviously from the feminist side of like, this is about a deeply insecure man who feels entitled to a woman at any cost. And I'm not saying they're wrong. A guy who watches this movie and is like, that's about a crazy girlfriend break up with him. Like, it's so not like that. Like, this guy wished this thing upon this woman. It changed who she was. And the only way, like, do you care if I spoil it?
41:00 Rayna Greenberg? I don't, you're not like a spoiler.
41:02 Ashley Hesseltine? Okay, she likes to spoiler, okay. And the only way he can get out of it is if he dies. So if he like kills himself, then the wish will break. He has the opportunity to break the wish and he doesn't choose to. He chooses, he asks to alter it. Like, there's these moments and they're so creepy and so scary and he still is like, I want her to be with me, even though she is like a haunted version of herself. So, anyway, a couple of things from L. India. One of the quotes says, "At its core, this is not a story about a crazy girlfriend. It's about a deeply insecure loser man who wants validation so desperately that he strips a woman of her autonomy just to feel wanted. And once he gets exactly what he wished for, he realizes that possession is not love, but by then the damage is already irreversible."
41:44 Rayna Greenberg? Oh, it's sort of like a scary version of Stepford Wives or Don't Worry Darling. You know, Don't Worry Darling is that they like trap these women. Like, I haven't seen it. Remember, you told me I had to see it.
41:58 Ashley Hesseltine? And then, it says, "The pop culture has spent decades feeding us this idea that love is about persistence, that wanting someone hard enough will eventually make them yours. The awkward and relentless nice boy gets the girl, and perhaps that's exactly why obsession feels so terrifying. But this guy in real life wouldn't be a threat, by the way. You know what I mean? And obviously, he didn't intend for this outcome to happen, but diving into like the way he phrased it and then the way he acts after it comes to life is really illuminating and fascinating. And his name in the show is Bear. I think it's like short for barren. And so it draws onto like the man versus bear. You know, when they ask a woman, would you rather be trapped in the woods with a man or a bear? And most women choose the bear. You know this."
42:36 Rayna Greenberg? Wow.
42:36 Ashley Hesseltine? You've seen that. Like, we see quotes that say, that's why women choose the bear. That's what they're referring to. It's like a psychological study.
42:42 Rayna Greenberg? Oh, I never knew that.
42:43 Ashley Hesseltine? Oh, really?
42:44 Rayna Greenberg? That's so interesting. I heard this thing this morning. This guy was interviewing this woman and he said, "If men weren't around, who would protect women?" And she said, "From who?"
42:50 Ashley Hesseltine? Oh, my god.
42:51 Rayna Greenberg? And I was like, holy shit. It was like a man on the street thing. It was so quick.
42:55 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah.
42:56 Rayna Greenberg? Yeah, the bear, a bear makes sense.
42:57 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah, the man versus bear debate is a viral sociological thought experiment, asking women if they would prefer to be alone in the woods with a random man or a random bear. And many women chose the bear.
43:05 Rayna Greenberg? I could outsmart a bear.
43:06 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah. You know what they're gonna do. That's that you can at least like predict it. So- I just wanted to read like one more quote from Curry Barker. And because I was like, did he think about it this deeply? Is he on this like feminist, like, did he think of it from the feminist lens? Or was it not that deep for him? And I think there's probably a little bit of truth in both. And he said that he was trying to send a message about modern dating culture. He says it has to do with the importance of putting yourself out there. We live in a world where everybody's on the internet and human connection feels like it's an all time low. Bear is a guy who's too scared. A lot of things would have been avoided in this movie if he had just told her how he felt. And there's this moment where she goes like, do you like me? Just say it. And you're like screaming like, just fucking say it.
43:50 Ashley Hesseltine? And instead, he doesn't say it. And then he snaps the wish thing. And then that's where it all, the wheels come off.
43:57 Rayna Greenberg? I just, it is hard to sometimes say like, I didn't really that deep. Like, there would be no movie if he said it, you know?
44:02 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah. And he just talks about this age old, be careful what you wish for trope. And how our deepest desires tend to revolve around personal gain. What I think is really funny, he said, anytime you wish for something, it's probably going to be selfish. When people ask me, Curry, if you had one wish, what would it be? I always say that the movie does really great at the box office. Instead, like, I could wish for world peace. And it's, it's interesting. So I've just been obsessed with it. Like Taylor and I all weekend were voice noting about it. And like, my mind would change on different things I read. I just, Raina, I really want you to see it. And like, I know.
44:34 Rayna Greenberg? It's fucked up. I would come over and watch it with you guys. Like, I'll probably do a Summer House later, but I will not. Because we're gonna, we feel like we're such a fun night plan. We're gonna go to the Lava Island premiere.
44:44 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah, then we'll do that.
44:44 Rayna Greenberg? And then we'll watch Summer House. I just feel like I can't watch horror movies until I get a boyfriend.
44:49 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah, I want to see it again. So like, when it is available for streaming, like, now that I know so much more, like, I haven't, I don't remember the last time I saw a movie that I liked more day by day because of the more I've dove into the symbolism and the themes.
45:05 Rayna Greenberg? Okay, also, this is not a hot take, but I feel less safe in LA than I feel in New York just because like, New York, one bedroom apartment. I, I can have eyes on the whole apartment at all times, my house.
45:17 Ashley Hesseltine? But you're not going to be scared of someone breaking in after this movie.
45:20 Rayna Greenberg? I would love for, I'd love for a man to want me to be obsessed with him. Because I just do that for free.
45:26 Ashley Hesseltine? Stop, you're Nicky. Wait, you are really Nikki.
45:31 Rayna Greenberg? I'll just do it and you don't even want it and I will do it. I will be obsessed with you. Try me.
45:35 Ashley Hesseltine? You know what?
45:36 Rayna Greenberg? I thought you meant Glazer. I was like, I thought you meant Glazer and I was like huh?
45:40 Ashley Hesseltine? No, sorry. Nikki, her name's, he says her name over and over and over. Nikki, Nikki, just be Nikki again. You know what I miss from growing up, from like our childhoods? Seeing horror movies in the theater with people's reactions. Like, because people were reacting to this movie. There was a few laughs here and there, but gasps, people clapped at the end. Like, I miss seeing those blockbuster horror movies. Scream, Scream 2. I know what you did last summer.
46:03 Rayna Greenberg? You and I go to movies all the time. We love going to movies.
46:06 Ashley Hesseltine? But, but horror movies in the theater hit different and some like comedies of our time. Like, that energy of people like being so scared is so fun. I like kind of forget like horror movies are more fun in the theater.
46:18 Rayna Greenberg? Well, they also just feel a little less scary. The fact that you get the energy. You and I, it's so funny. You and I did not see one movie together for like seven years and then the last year and a half, we've been like, we will see every movie in the theater.
46:30 Ashley Hesseltine? But just to watch a scary movie at home and then what? You gotta turn off the lights and go to bed? Uh-uh. We went to Elefante and had margaritas.
46:38 Rayna Greenberg? Was my guy there?
46:39 Ashley Hesseltine? I don't know what he looks like. I never met him.
46:42 Rayna Greenberg? You guys.
46:44 Ashley Hesseltine? Did he work at the big bar or the little bar?
46:45 Rayna Greenberg? The big bar.
46:46 Ashley Hesseltine? I love that little bar. We sat in the other room. Crazy.
46:48 Rayna Greenberg? Oh shit.
46:49 Ashley Hesseltine? We sat in the garden room.
46:50 Rayna Greenberg? Well, you just, I didn't know you went to Elefante.
46:53 Ashley Hesseltine? The movie theaters were, we went to a different movie theater.
46:55 Rayna Greenberg? Yeah, I know that theater.
46:56 Ashley Hesseltine? Because this movie is hard to get tickets.
46:58 Rayna Greenberg? Off of the promenade?
47:00 Ashley Hesseltine? We had to go to the promenade.
47:01 Rayna Greenberg? Promenade's scary.
47:02 Ashley Hesseltine? We go to, we go to the Marina dining in six, but there were no tickets available. I'm telling you, this movie, to watch it pick up week after week is crazy too. Like, I'm obsessed with stuff like that. Like a slower burn. Like, yes, it popped off on opening day, but now it's going, it's going viral. Like this movie that was made for under a million dollars. I, I just, I'm fascinated.
47:22 Rayna Greenberg? Um, I, now I want to make a list of like all the wishes that I would make. Even if you gave me top 10, they would all still be about me. You would throw in some stuff about your nephews, but I wouldn't. I feel like my nephew's gonna be fine.
47:34 Ashley Hesseltine? We all have one.
47:35 Rayna Greenberg? Like one, like, of course I would.
47:38 Ashley Hesseltine? Don't, we all.
47:40 Rayna Greenberg? There's like one thing if it happened.
47:42 Ashley Hesseltine? You guys know. I mean.
47:44 Rayna Greenberg? One wish. I think we all.
47:47 Ashley Hesseltine? I've been pretty excited.
47:50 Ashley Hesseltine? Some people have a bottle of champagne in the fridge, just in case.
47:55 Rayna Greenberg? Like, remember that day I was sitting in my apartment and streamers started coming down in front of the window because Joe Biden had been elected?
48:01 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah.
48:02 Rayna Greenberg? I would have, it would be like that for me, that day. It would be like streamers coming down from the sky.
48:08 Ashley Hesseltine? Pots and pans banging.
48:09 Rayna Greenberg? I would just run on the lawn and just start screaming.
48:13 Ashley Hesseltine? Streaking.
48:13 Rayna Greenberg? Shoot a gun in the air.
48:17 Ashley Hesseltine? Oh my god, we have to do these headlines.
48:21 Ashley Hesseltine? Okay, let's wrap up with some headlines for you guys. So, speaking of the White House lawn, this UFC fight, which is hard to comprehend, and like, you guys have seen it, like, there's been insider trading about it. Trump's like, bought stock in this company that's doing the fight. It's all so corrupt, it's all so disgusting, it's all something I thought Republicans were so against. So, there's that facet of it, but they're building a fucking cage match on the White House lawn.
48:49 Rayna Greenberg? It's, it's jarring to see it. So, this will coincide with Flag Day and Trump's 80th birthday. An 80-year-old is president, by the way, which is just crazy. We're not putting age limits or smart people limits.
49:00 Ashley Hesseltine? This is the birthday party he's throwing for himself.
49:02 Rayna Greenberg? A cage match on the lawn. And, you know, it is so ridiculous, but what has really, like, stuck with me and you, is these aerial views of the White House and just how sad it looks that there's this, like, blown-out bomb shelter essentially, which maybe will be this ballroom, and then this cage being built on the front of the lawn. It just, I'm not like such a purist about, like, monuments and you have to, I don't really care one or the other, but this feels like really awful to me.
49:31 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah, when you see the imagery, like, the same with the ballroom, like, they really do hit different. And Hillary Clinton posted, I saw this on threads, it really hit me. She says, she shows the photo, we'll put it up on screen if you guys are watching the video. This is what Trump's done to the people's house. A third of it is rubble, another third is a cage match. What a metaphor. Like, violence for entertainment on one-third of the fucking lawn and the rest is a teardown. This is disgusting. And I was like, the accuracy of that?
49:58 Rayna Greenberg? Yeah.
49:59 Ashley Hesseltine? And the, like, insanity of that. I can't believe that. We are so embarrassing.
50:05 Rayna Greenberg? It is so embarrassing. Can you imagine any other president of any other nation putting a cage match on the lawn?
50:13 Ashley Hesseltine? And we'll report back on like who attends because these people were invited that people are like, they better not fucking go. Adam Sandler was one. There was one other that people were like, oh, I hope to God these people don't go because that will be very telling.
50:27 Rayna Greenberg? I do wonder, I mean, all the people that just stood on stage at the inauguration with him. I mean, it was Jeff Bezos and Mark Zuckerberg.
50:32 Ashley Hesseltine? Well, those people are expected, but people like Adam Sandler, like.
50:36 Rayna Greenberg? Anybody in comedy, I'm like, what are we doing?
50:38 Ashley Hesseltine? I know.
50:38 Rayna Greenberg? You guys are supposed to be better than this.
50:40 Ashley Hesseltine? It's like if they went to, um.
50:41 Rayna Greenberg? Saudi Arabia.
50:44 Rayna Greenberg? Yeah, that was crazy.
50:46 Ashley Hesseltine? And then on the same token is the Freedom 250 concert, so 250 Years of Freedom on July 4th, 2026. There's supposed to be a concert series also in the National Mall.
50:57 Rayna Greenberg? And all of these artists, I guess, had agreed to it with this company, not really understanding really what it was and that it was so aligned with Trump. And so now, one by one, they're all publicly making statements.
51:08 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah.
51:09 Rayna Greenberg? That they don't want to be involved in this. And Donald Trump's like, I'll just do it. I'll, I'll perform better than all these people. More people come to see me than Elvis. I'm the world's biggest attraction that there's ever been. He'd just be saying stuff.
51:21 Ashley Hesseltine? To see what? His little dance to YMCA, a gay anthem, his dance? I can't like, but his post on Truth Social, he hit us with the yips again. He said, because a lot of these artists are getting the yips. I can't, what, what are?
51:39 Rayna Greenberg? Every day.
51:39 Ashley Hesseltine? He did this one other time. So I love that they all came out and made public statements. I mean, Martina McBride, Vanilla Ice is still not out yet. Milli Vanilli.
51:49 Rayna Greenberg? Milli Vanilli.
51:50 Ashley Hesseltine? The people that they even tried to confirm are, not all of them, but a lot of them are just like washed up in the first place.
51:54 Rayna Greenberg? Is it just gonna be Nicki Minaj and Kid Rock?
51:57 Ashley Hesseltine? Nicki's done. She kind of walked back. We haven't, this didn't really make a lot of news where she tried to kind of go on an apology tour.
52:03 Rayna Greenberg? Ah, too late.
52:04 Ashley Hesseltine? Well, yeah, but people, people didn't really pick it up. So as of now, I think it's just Vanilla Ice and Flo Rida. Real disappointment.
52:11 Rayna Greenberg? I thought Flo Rida just dropped out.
52:12 Ashley Hesseltine? Oh, really? I mean, this is a.
52:14 Rayna Greenberg? I can't keep up.
52:14 Ashley Hesseltine? Like, um, developing story, but so Trump went from, I'm gonna headline to just cancel it. I hope they have this so much. I. Hope they have this with Vanilla Ice solo and Trump onstage doing his little dance and nobody is there.
52:31 Rayna Greenberg? Yes, like the Super Bowl halftime show.
52:33 Ashley Hesseltine? Hundred percent. This is Turning Point halftime show. Erica Kirk won't even come. She didn't go to the Super Bowl halftime show. Erica Kirk won't even be there with her sparklers and.
52:42 Rayna Greenberg? Well, she was at that fake assassination, so she's already done her. She's already done her time.
52:46 Ashley Hesseltine? So stay tuned, you guys, and happy 250, America. Okay, this one armed woman got pulled over for texting and driving and it went viral. She, I think she requested the body cam footage and she posted this herself.
52:59 Rayna Greenberg? You can do that? You can just request your own body cam footage?
53:01 Ashley Hesseltine? I think that's how the footage.
53:02 Rayna Greenberg? I guess if I'm on camera, I should be able to request it.
53:04 Ashley Hesseltine? So the court has been dismissed, but it's so hilarious because the cop runs up on her. You've been texting and driving and she's like, with what hand?
53:12 Rayna Greenberg? When she moves her little nub in the frame.
53:14 Ashley Hesseltine? And then he goes hand to God and she puts her.
53:17 Rayna Greenberg? Her nub up.
53:18 Ashley Hesseltine? And then she's like, oh, other hand. She fucks with this cop and it's so disgusting because he doesn't back down.
53:24 Rayna Greenberg? He doesn't. He never breaks.
53:25 Ashley Hesseltine? And I find it really gross that a cop can't accept that he's been wrong, continues to harass this woman. It's a huge problem with someone enforcing the law, but to watch it is fucking hysterical and she's obviously has, it's been dropped and she just like dunked on this fucking loser cop. I can't get over it.
53:44 Rayna Greenberg? He never backs down. I would have been like, I'm so sorry.
53:47 Ashley Hesseltine? I'm so sorry. Also like, I'm so sorry that I made a mistake, falsely accused you of something and it's a handicap person on top of it.
53:55 Rayna Greenberg? Yeah, you're hard enough.
53:56 Ashley Hesseltine? You're zero empathy.
53:58 Rayna Greenberg? It's crazy.
53:59 Ashley Hesseltine? And lastly, there is allegedly a new fish that's been discovered in Venezuela and people don't know if it's a hoax or not. It is bright blue. It looks like a vagina. People are calling it Bonnie blue and for the life of me, Rain, I can't figure out if this is real. I have done so much research on this. I think it's like a viral hoax that it says marine biologists have discovered a previously unknown species of fish off the coast of Venezuela and it has yet to receive an official scientific name. So like everyone's in the comments, like calling it different things.
54:27 Rayna Greenberg? The whole face is a vagina.
54:28 Ashley Hesseltine? Fishgina.
54:29 Rayna Greenberg? We'll put it up on screen. I mean, the whole face of this blue fish looks like Nikki Glaser does this joke about how her vagina looks like an unpacked suitcase and it looks like that.
54:39 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah, it can't be real and I just, that's like where we're at as a. As a nation is like, we don't know if a new species has been discovered or if this is AI.
54:50 Rayna Greenberg? I will never know if it's real.
54:52 Ashley Hesseltine? This is also a developing story, but I wish it was real. It's upset. I'm obsessed with it. It's bright blue and it looks like a pussy.
54:57 Rayna Greenberg? It really, it doesn't look like a flower. It looks like a blue vagina. It looks like with that, you don't like X-Men like I do, right?
55:03 Ashley Hesseltine? Someone called it labia azul.
55:06 Ashley Hesseltine? I'm in these comments.
55:07 Rayna Greenberg? It looks like Rebecca Romaine Stamos's character in X-Men.
55:11 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah, that blue color.
55:14 Rayna Greenberg? That's what her vagina looks like.
55:15 Ashley Hesseltine? Avatar, too.
55:17 Rayna Greenberg? Also Avatar vagina.
55:18 Ashley Hesseltine? Anyway. All right, guys. GirlsGottaEat.com, GirlsGottaPodcast Instagram and TikTok. I am Ash Hess on Instagram and TikTok. Reina is Reina.Greenberg, ReinaGreenberg.com for her fall tour tickets. And you can watch full video on Spotify and YouTube and share this episode with a friend. Hope you guys enjoyed and we will see you Monday.
55:38 Rayna Greenberg? Have a good weekend, guys.
55:39 Ashley Hesseltine? Bye.
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