Matt Gourley Needs A Fan

Conan talks to Sid in Budapest about innovation in the world of cheese development. Wanna get a chance to talk to Conan? Submit here: teamcoco.com/apply

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• 0:03Conan O'Brien?

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• 0:14Conan O'Brien?

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• 0:17Speaker 01

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• 0:39Conan O'Brien?

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• 0:43Speaker 01

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• 0:44Conan O'Brien?

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• 0:45Speaker 01

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• 0:46Speaker 01

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• 0:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 0:56Conan O'Brien?

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• 1:33Speaker 02

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• 1:43Speaker 03

  Hey, guys.

• 1:44Speaker 04

  Hi, Sid. Welcome to Conan O'Brien Needs a Fan.

• 1:46Speaker 03

  Hello, thank you so much.

• 1:48Speaker 04

  Hey, Sid, how are you?

• 1:50Speaker 03

  Hey, Matt. Hey, David. Hi.

• 1:53Conan O'Brien?

  Yes.

• 1:55Speaker 03

  You can leave.

• 1:56Conan O'Brien?

  What the hell was that? You got Conan O'Brien in the room, you got the Queen of England in the room, and you're talking to the footman. What are you doing? Here's what it is. Okay.

• 2:04Speaker 03

  This is the inaugural episode of Matt Gorley Needs a Fan.

• 2:08Speaker 04

  Oh, what? Look at you, you've got a James Bond poster and a cat back there. You are-

• 2:14Speaker 03

  You're goddamn right.

• 2:16Conan O'Brien?

  Wow, this is great. Listen, I am very secure in my fame, and I will allow Matt Gourley to have one fan, and that can be you, Sid, as long as you remain in Budapest and never leave.

• 2:29Speaker 04

  Wait, I can never meet him?

• 2:31Conan O'Brien?

  You can never meet him.

• 2:32Speaker 04

  Aw, man.

• 2:32Conan O'Brien?

  That I will not allow. You meeting a fan, I won't have it.

• 2:35Speaker 04

  Alright.

• 2:35Conan O'Brien?

  Uh, no, well this is-

• 2:36Speaker 03

  Gourley, I'll come to Pasadena and I'll find you. How about that?

• 2:38Conan O'Brien?

  Oh my god, sounds like you already know where he lives.

• 2:41Speaker 04

  Sounds ominous.

• 2:43Conan O'Brien?

  Well, tell us a little bit about yourself. We already know that you... Do you listen to this podcast at all, or you only listen to Matt Gourley products?

• 2:53Speaker 03

  Well, here's the thing. First of all, I listen to this podcast religiously.

• 2:58Conan O'Brien?

  There you go.

• 3:00Conan O'Brien?

  I'm like Trump. I'm like Trump, you really need to blow a lot of hot air my way, and then I come around.

• 3:04Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 3:06Conan O'Brien?

  Alright, okay.

• 3:07Speaker 03

  You're like him in a lot of ways.

• 3:08Conan O'Brien?

  I'm a lot like him.

• 3:09Speaker 04

  It's true.

• 3:10Conan O'Brien?

  It's true. I bloviate, I have insane hair. Uh, I spend a lot of time in Florida.

• 3:17Conan O'Brien?

  But anyway, so go ahead. Tell us the story. You listen to this... I like how this is starting. You listen to the Conan O'Brien podcast all the time? Go ahead.

• 3:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, and I re-listen to episodes as well. I find certain ones that sort of comfort me a lot. I'm a big fan of the podcast, but I have to be honest, Conan. It was your podcast that made me a fan of you.

• 3:39Conan O'Brien?

  You mean it was Matt's podcast? It was... Oh, wait a minute, I'm sorry.

• 3:43Speaker 03

  Well, this is episode one, we'll see how it goes.

• 3:45Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, yeah. But what I'm saying is, it was... You didn't know about me at all, and then you started listening to my podcast.

• 3:52Speaker 03

  Well, I knew your name, I knew your face. I saw your little walk on Cam' you in the office and stuff like-

• 3:58Conan O'Brien?

  You saw no reason to pursue.

• 4:02Conan O'Brien?

  I heard your name and I saw your face and I was out. I love that he knows me from my cameo on The Office. That's fantastic. Uh, listen, here's my attitude about all of this.

• 4:13Speaker 03

  You wanna know the fucked up thing about that? I thought you were Craig Kilbore.

• 4:16Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, oh wow. There's a name I haven't heard in a while.

• 4:19Speaker 04

  I know, yeah.

• 4:21Conan O'Brien?

  Listen, uh, I, Sid, this is good for me. You're like a loofah for my ego. You're scrubbing away at it, removing all of the dead layers. Uh, so I welcome this.

• 4:32Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 4:32Conan O'Brien?

  You know, I have too many people on the street saying, "I wanna do you, do me now."

• 4:37Speaker 04

  Oh, we walk around with you and I've never, have you ever heard?

• 4:41Conan O'Brien?

  No, I've never heard that. This is in my mind.

• 4:43Speaker 04

  I've also, but I've heard you say that lots of times, yeah.

• 4:45Conan O'Brien?

  I say it to myself. No, but Sid-

• 4:48Speaker 03

  You walk around with earbuds on.

• 4:49Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, yeah. It's just a recording of me on a loop.

• 4:55Conan O'Brien?

  Uh, Sid, uh, I am fine. I like that you, I, here's my, here's how I feel. I'm kind of like a drug dealer in that as long as I get you on heroin, I don't care how you

• 5:05Speaker 04

  Oh, I see.

• 5:06Conan O'Brien?

  Came to like it. So, if, when people say to me, "Oh, I only knew you from your, um, failed line of Designer Jeans in 1996," I'm like, "I don't care, as long as I got you in the door."

• 5:17Speaker 04

  But now I feel like I have to apologize because I'm responsible for getting you hooked on this heroin. You know what I mean?

• 5:23Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, because you're a Gourley fan, right? You listen to Gourley's podcast, which one?

• 5:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, okay, so Matt, um, genuinely, I am a bit starstruck talking to you.

• 5:34Speaker 04

  Oh, you, come on.

• 5:36Conan O'Brien?

  No, I'm liking this, this is good.

• 5:37Speaker 04

  This makes me so uncomfortable, you're so sweet.

• 5:40Speaker 03

  I, I, I understand that, but I do have to say it. Uh, but, uh, you, you and, you and I had a brief, uh, interaction on Twitter, actually, back when it was Twitter, uh, a few years ago, where I, where I said that you were, um, more like, uh, instrumental in forming my comedic voice than anyone else. Uh, and that's through me listening to the James Bonding podcast.

• 6:00Speaker 04

  Oh my god.

• 6:01Speaker 03

  Uh, from, from day one, over and over, actually. I've re-listened to the entire run, I think maybe six or seven times.

• 6:07Conan O'Brien?

  Wow.

• 6:09Speaker 03

  And it was when you were talking to Matt Myra about, uh, working with Conan, that I was like, "Oh shit, Gourley's got another podcast, let me check the Conan podcast."

• 6:16Conan O'Brien?

  Oh yeah.

• 6:18Conan O'Brien?

  He's got another podcast with ugly face from the Office cameo?

• 6:23Speaker 04

  I believe I said Craig Kilbore.

• 6:24Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, weird name, ugly face. From the cameo. Well, I'm gonna, Sid, you are, I honor your love of Gourley. He's very talented, very funny, and this is all, a great day in my life occurred when I met this, this gentleman. And so, no, no, seriously, I, I'm, I'm, this is all not gonna irritate me. It's not gonna irritate me at all. Yeah, you seem fine. I'm gonna get over this. I'm gonna put the knife away. Speaking of heroin, I'd like just a little taste right now. I wanna disassociate from my emotions at the moment. No, but that's great, I'm glad, but let's, let's, we'll go back to Gourley, but I wanna

• 7:08Conan O'Brien?

  find out a little bit about you, okay? Because part of the whole reason for this podcast, where I talk to people around the world, is to find out what they're up to, and then we can return to the great Matt Gourley. Tell us about yourself, what do you do? Are you native to Budapest? Tell us about yourself.

• 7:29Speaker 03

  Matt, is it okay if I answer that question?

• 7:31Conan O'Brien?

  Yes. I will allow it, but you've got 20 seconds, then we get back to me.

• 7:37Speaker 03

  Well, okay, so, I'm not native to Budapest. Good pronunciation, by the way, Conan. I am originally Indian.

• 7:43Conan O'Brien?

  You know, I have such an ugly face, I have a lot of time to get pronunciations right. Because no one invites me out, but go ahead.

• 7:50Speaker 03

  I don't want it to be on the record that I find you ugly, because I don't, I find you to be a very attractive man, so let's just get that out.

• 7:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, so I'm originally Indian. I left there when I was very young, when I was eight. And I was basically raised in central eastern Europe. I lived in Prague for a couple of years. And for the last 25 years, I've been here in Budapest. So, I'm essentially a local here, but I don't present as such, obviously.

• 8:16Conan O'Brien?

  Do people in Budapest think that you are a tourist, often?

• 8:21Speaker 03

  You know, um, when I was, when I was a teenager, they thought I was a member of the Roma population. And so they would kind of get a little bit nervous that I was gonna, you know, uh, steal something from them, or behave in an unsavory way, or whatever.

• 8:38Speaker 04

  Did you live in America? Because-

• 8:40Speaker 03

  Are you, are you asking because the accent?

• 8:42Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 8:42Speaker 03

  Yeah, so I, there's, there's an American school here, and that's where I went to school.

• 8:46Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 8:47Conan O'Brien?

  But I mean, the fact that you have that accent, oh, so you've been in, in the United States? You spent a lot of time here?

• 8:53Speaker 04

  No, you went to an American school.

• 8:54Speaker 03

  There's like, an, an American international school here in Budapest. That's where I went to school.

• 8:59Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 8:59Conan O'Brien?

  That's very impressive that, uh, you would, I mean, honestly, I feel like, if I was just talking to you on the phone, I'd feel like you were from Ryan, New York.

• 9:09Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 9:10Conan O'Brien?

  Or, you know, uh, it's just, it's incredible that you, a, a school can provide that, give you such-

• 9:18Speaker 04

  Yeah, did movies and James Bond movies have anything to do with that? I know they're English, but-

• 9:22Speaker 03

  Well, uh, the, it, it's weird. It was more cartoons, actually, because when, when, when I left India, it was, you know, a lot of cartoons, but you know, the Bugs Bunnies and the Cartoon Networks of the world. Um, but, you know, obviously, I still, I, I still, when I speak to my family, I still speak with an Indian accent, so I like code switch.

• 9:42Conan O'Brien?

  But that happens. I go back to Boston. I haven't lived in Boston since 1981. But, I mean, I haven't, I haven't really been, that's not true, 1985. Um, but, but when I drift back to Boston, I find certain things coming out. I'm much more abrasive, intolerant.

• 10:03Speaker 04

  The Bill Burr and you comes out.

• 10:05Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, suddenly, yeah. Little short quips and short breaths. Um, I'm an insane driver, suddenly. Uh, so that can happen. What do you do for a profession? What is your-

• 10:16Speaker 03

  What puts bread on my table?

• 10:18Conan O'Brien?

  Yep.

• 10:18Speaker 03

  Um, so I'm the head of marketing for a cheese company, which is run by my childhood friend. Um, so he's the CEO. It's like a family-run company, so I'm their head of marketing. Um, on the side, I also dabble in, in stand-up. Uh, but yeah, what, but obviously, that doesn't pay anything.

• 10:38Conan O'Brien?

  Well, I don't know. I mean, it might. Is there a thriving stand-up scene in Budapest?

• 10:43Speaker 03

  You know, it's not bad. It's pretty good. But I guess the market for it is kind of limited because you have a couple of filters. You have, number one, people who are interested in comedy, which in a former Soviet country is also questionable. There's people interested in comedy, people who are interested in comedy who speak English, people interested in comedy who speak English, who actually want to go to a basement bar on a weekday. So there's a few levels. But, you know, we draw a crowd. There's a few very talented people that I admire a lot. And, yeah, it's pretty good. It's an up-and-coming scene. It's been active for, I guess, at most, maybe 15 years.

• 11:24Conan O'Brien?

  Why don't you do me a favor? It'd be a nice thing to give a shout-out to some of your favorite comedians that you see in the Budapest scene.

• 11:33Speaker 03

  And your favorite cheese.

• 11:37Conan O'Brien?

  We want a pairing of best comic with best cheese. But seriously, just quickly name a few people so that maybe some of our listeners, someone out there might hear about this and then we might discover somebody.

• 11:49Speaker 03

  Oh, trust me, I'm gonna tell them about it. Alright, so shout-out to... And yourself as well, Sid, your full name, too, so people can come see you.

• 11:54Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, what's your full name?

• 11:55Speaker 03

  Hey, Sid Murti. Thank you very much.

• 11:59Conan O'Brien?

  There was no applause.

• 12:02Conan O'Brien?

  Please, please, settle down. Please.

• 12:04Speaker 03

  I'll edit some in. Thanks, Garly. Alright, so shout-out to Rom, obviously, who's a big Conan fan. Kitty, Albert, Rebecca. No, we don't have time for that. Rom can call in.

• 12:18Conan O'Brien?

  What's Rom's full name?

• 12:20Speaker 03

  He would prefer to remain anonymous.

• 12:22Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, he'll go far.

• 12:26Speaker 03

  No, he's a...

• 12:27Conan O'Brien?

  He hires a publicist. Alright, here's what we're gonna do. I'd like to be anonymous. What? What are you talking about? What's your name? This isn't important. Can we have a photograph of your face? No. I want you in a film. I won't do it. I might be seen.

• 12:41Speaker 03

  It's actually a little bit relevant because he's an outspoken Iranian.

• 12:45Speaker 04

  I know.

• 12:46Speaker 03

  Not in Iran. So if he's seen as talking shit about the government, then he can be called back and, you know.

• 12:55Speaker 04

  Does he wear a disguise when he performs, like the unknown comic?

• 12:58Speaker 03

  No, the disguise that he wears is remaining in relative anonymity in a

• 13:04Speaker 04

  I see.

• 13:04Speaker 03

  Pretty small comedy scene.

• 13:05Conan O'Brien?

  It's so funny. I asked for a shout out. And by the way, we hear from fans in Tehran. We hear, we have fans in Tehran. And a shout out to them because I know they've been going through, you know, a difficult time and I'm talking about the people of Tehran. There's a lot of young people out there and some of them are listening to this podcast and I, I think it's relevant to say that we've been hearing from them. And it's so funny that you're saying. So this, there are people in Iran who are listening to this podcast and I say, let's give a big shout out.

• 13:47Conan O'Brien?

  Let's put the spotlight on one of your friends who you think is really talented. And you mentioned a guy who's in hiding.

• 13:52Speaker 04

  And am I right? So he can, he has to like fight a certain amount of success. He can't be too good because if he becomes known, then he's in danger. So he has to be like a mediocre comic to stay alive.

• 14:03Conan O'Brien?

  Trust me, I'm familiar with this process.

• 14:09Speaker 04

  That explains a lot.

• 14:11Conan O'Brien?

  There aren't, there aren't a lot of people out to get me, but there are some. That's why I've kept it at kind of B, B, B minus celebrity status.

• 14:20Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 14:20Conan O'Brien?

  Very comforting to me.

• 14:23Speaker 03

  He's been given the Tonight Show, but don't worry, he'll be off very soon.

• 14:27Conan O'Brien?

  You know what? It's been a long enough time that I can really laugh at it and no, I can't.

• 14:34Conan O'Brien?

  Sid, now I'm coming after you.

• 14:37Speaker 03

  Bring it on, man.

• 14:38Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah. Wow. Okay.

• 14:41Conan O'Brien?

  I can't wait to jump out of a mailbox in Budapest and attack you. It'll just be with like a wet stuffed animal that I hit you with.

• 14:55Conan O'Brien?

  You know, winning an award, that's a big achievement, right?

• 14:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, I love awards.

• 14:58Conan O'Brien?

  Every now and then in life, maybe something nice like that comes your way. Winning them consistently is almost impossible. It just doesn't happen, you know? Well, guess what? Winning five times in six years? You know what that sounds like to me? Sustained excellence.

• 15:12Speaker 01

  Nice.

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• 16:20Conan O'Brien?

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  I fell for a scam?

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• 16:29Speaker 01

  I did lose and it was very inconvenient and now they put protections on my account like I'm, uh, dumb.

• 16:35Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, I don't know where they got that impression.

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• 16:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 16:56Conan O'Brien?

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• 16:56Speaker 01

  Maybe I should start scamming.

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• 18:34Speaker 01

  Me, too.

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  Yeah.

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• 19:06Conan O'Brien?

  So the cheese business, you're doing that.

• 19:08Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 19:08Conan O'Brien?

  I'm gonna take a wild stab and say, I don't think you take that business very seriously. I don't think it's your passion.

• 19:14Speaker 03

  Well, how can you? How can you take cheese here? Who does take cheese seriously? Like, apart from Jordan Schlansky?

• 19:21Conan O'Brien?

  My father-in-law.

• 19:22Speaker 03

  Does he really?

• 19:23Conan O'Brien?

  And Jordan Schlansky.

• 19:24Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 19:24Conan O'Brien?

  They would take cheese very seriously, yes. But there are people out there, I'm not saying I approve of them, nor do I approve of my father-in-law, but Jake, if you're listening, I'm after you, too. But there are people that take cheese very seriously. I mean, you can pick any object and there's someone in the world who takes it very seriously. So, um, there are people. Is it a profitable cheese concern? Is it doing well?

• 19:51Speaker 03

  It is. It's doing very well, it's thriving. We sell a lot of cheese in the Middle East, actually. So the company is owned by a Lebanese family here in Hungary.

• 20:01Conan O'Brien?

  What a melting pot this is.

• 20:03Speaker 04

  No, yeah.

• 20:03Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah. And of course, an Irish guy sweeps up afterwards. You've got everyone working for you. So, yeah. And the cheese is good? You're backing the cheese? How many kinds of cheese do you make?

• 20:17Speaker 03

  Tons. And we also invent new kinds of cheese as well.

• 20:22Speaker 04

  Really?

• 20:22Speaker 03

  So...

• 20:23Conan O'Brien?

  What's a new kind of cheese? I thought there were just the cheeses that exist that are always on a plate when you, you know, go to a nice party and they put out the cheese course and there they are. There's the blue cheese, there's the soft cheeses, the breeze.

• 20:36Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 20:36Conan O'Brien?

  But, but there's the cheddar, there's the... But are there really that many kinds of cheese?

• 20:42Speaker 03

  There are countless types of cheese. I mean, like, if an accident happens with, like, your milk and acid levels, then boom, that's a new type of cheese. So, like, you just sort of improvise. But it's, you know, different, like, consumption methods or whatever.

• 20:58Speaker 04

  Could you theoretically invent, like, a Conan cheese?

• 21:01Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, could you make a cheese? Or, he's gonna wanna make it about you. It's gonna be a Matt Gourley cheese.

• 21:06Speaker 04

  But I think cheese is much more appropriate for you.

• 21:08Conan O'Brien?

  Okay, that's good, that's good.

• 21:10Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 21:11Conan O'Brien?

  Do you make rods up the ass? Like a stiff rod up the ass? Because then we could name that after Matt.

• 21:23Conan O'Brien?

  New ass stiff rod. We call it the Gourley.

• 21:27Speaker 04

  But it's signature?

• 21:28Conan O'Brien?

  It's signature.

• 21:29Speaker 04

  I'll take it.

• 21:30Conan O'Brien?

  And it's made of a fine ash. It's, their quality is superb.

• 21:35Speaker 04

  I worked with the designer and I approved this stiff rod at the ass.

• 21:39Conan O'Brien?

  It's you looking slightly uncomfortable, but also you're, you're a little pleased. You're having a low level of erotic high. Yeah, maybe you can make a Conan cheese and we could maybe profit together from this venture.

• 21:55Speaker 03

  Well, okay, good, because this is kind of what I do. So every year, our, so here in Hungary, our most like popular profitable, whatever you want to call it, type of cheese is halloumi, which is like a Mediterranean type of cheese, which is really popular in the Middle East as well. And, and every year we introduce two new flavored halloumi products. This year we did a tandoori one and tomato and basil, kind of basic ones. But we like to go for, for more and more, I guess, shocking, surprising flavor combinations.

• 22:37Conan O'Brien?

  Well, I am shocking and surprising, I think.

• 22:40Speaker 03

  Well, that's, that's really true. And I don't know, I'm getting a lot of like citrus, citrus energy from you.

• 22:47Conan O'Brien?

  Oh, yeah, I'm very acidic. I also have me with any medication and the medication will be less effective.

• 22:57Speaker 03

  There you go.

• 22:58Conan O'Brien?

  And I mean, that's just part of my personality.

• 23:00Speaker 03

  It is there though.

• 23:01Conan O'Brien?

  What's that?

• 23:01Speaker 03

  Well, orange, orange hair.

• 23:03Conan O'Brien?

  Orange hair.

• 23:03Speaker 03

  Vitamin C, C for Conan.

• 23:05Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah. There it is. This is very good. Matt, and there's a reason you love Matt. I don't get it yet, but I'm going to listen to this podcast he's got.

• 23:13Speaker 03

  Please don't.

• 23:15Conan O'Brien?

  I'm going to.

• 23:16Speaker 03

  Please do not.

• 23:16Conan O'Brien?

  Be discussed. I think an orange flavored cheese and maybe we add some other things that are very Conan-y.

• 23:23Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 23:24Conan O'Brien?

  If it could look like it has some kind of spotting or freckling, that would, my arms are just riddled with, you know.

• 23:31Speaker 03

  That would be maybe like rose petal.

• 23:33Conan O'Brien?

  Rose petal or, yeah, some kind of bacteria.

• 23:41Conan O'Brien?

  Just add a little salmonella in there. Lucky charms. Could you put some lucky charms in there? Oh, the marshmallows from Lucky Charms. I mean, we can think.

• 23:49Speaker 03

  How about, how about, uh, fruit pebbles, right? That's your go to?

• 23:52Conan O'Brien?

  I like a fruity pebble. I wouldn't say it's my go to. It will, it is what they're gonna find coming out of my mouth when I'm found dead. Yeah. In a hotel room. You have to have it removed from your house. Yeah, exactly. I, I did. I, we had a whole box of it. A crate. And I said, get this away from me. And then I accidentally bought you more and you would have thought I like brought him a gun. Yeah. Get that away from me? Depressed guy with a gun. Um, well, I think that's a possibility. Maybe we could get into business together.

• 24:19Speaker 03

  Yeah, let's do that. Um, you can have whatever cut you want because I'm on, I'm, I'm, I'm salaried, so I don't get a cut of anything.

• 24:27Conan O'Brien?

  Whoa. Oh, okay.

• 24:28Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 24:29Conan O'Brien?

  Well, I'd like you to see a little something. And also I think to be fair, we should, uh, cut Matt Gourley in as well.

• 24:34Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 24:35Conan O'Brien?

  Seriously. Great. I'm in. You're the one that, you're, you brought me Sid. Um, you were the entryway drug to, uh, to the much harsher and of course much sought after, uh, Conan drug. Um, so yeah, I think that Matt should also participate in the profits.

• 24:52Speaker 03

  Yeah. Okay. So we'll do this. We'll do the, the Conan cheese, which is with orange and, uh, salmonella. Done.

• 25:00Conan O'Brien?

  Very good. Can't wait for the ads for this. We'll have, there'll be no return customers. A wave of strange salmonella deaths in the cheese-loving, experimental cheese-loving community. Uh, all right. Well, Sid, um, you've, you've been terrific. It's been really nice to get to know you. You've been really terrific. Yeah. I've been really terrific. And, um, you've reawakened, uh, my, my love of Matt Gourley, which has been dormant for a very long time. Has it ever even? Well, I'm saying it goes back to before I even met you. It's like Halley's Comet, once every eighty years or whatever it is. Exactly. But Sid, very cool to meet you and best of luck to you and maybe we'll

• 25:45Conan O'Brien?

  cross paths someday. That would be really fun.

• 25:47Speaker 03

  Hey, I'd love to have you here in Hungary. You know what? It gets a bad rap in the media. All you hear about is how horrible the government is, which it is. And it's relevant that we're recording this now in June, which is Pride Month, where the rights of queer people are being stamped on every day. But you know what? There are good, solid people that don't get spoken about, and they're lumped in with all the horrible people. And I think that Hungary deserves a shot. Hungary deserves your presence in it. And I think that you'll find a lot to love over here.

• 26:24Conan O'Brien?

  Well, I think that's true of so many countries where the leadership sends you one signal, but there are lots of good people there. Lots of good people there. And that's a good point that you make. And so my shout out to Hungary and to all the people there. And I just love getting to talk to people, sensitive, funny, smart, creative people from all over the world who represent what's possible. So thanks for reaching out to us.

• 26:54Speaker 03

  Thank you for doing what you do, Conan. I think you've added more positivity in the world than you really realize. Your episode in Haiti in particular, and in Ghana as well, were very moving for me. And I think that you shed a light on the goodness of humanity in ways that will only become clear in a few decades. So your impact is felt.

• 27:20Conan O'Brien?

  But I'll still be alive. No.

• 27:21Speaker 03

  Yeah, because they'll rot up your ass.

• 27:26Conan O'Brien?

  You owe me for that. You know what saved you? They'll rot up your ass. Your left ventricle collapsed, but the circulation kept moving. All right. Hey, Sid, thanks for those kind words. Yeah. And maybe we'll see you soon. Take care, man.

• 27:38Speaker 03

  Absolutely. Hey, would it be all right if I took a picture? Is that okay?

• 27:41Conan O'Brien?

  Yeah, let's do it.

• 27:42Speaker 03

  So let's just do a screenshot. Fuck it. Thank you, guys, so much. Really appreciate this.

• 27:48Conan O'Brien?

  I love you. And say hi to your friend who's a comedian, but not too loudly. All right, take care. Kind of whisper it.

• 27:55Speaker 03

  Thank you for everything, Matt.

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