Sean Kingston's Beautiful Unpaid Bills w/ Ira Madison III

This week, Laci welcomes Ira Madison III (Pop Culture Writer for GQ, Keep It! Podcast) to discuss Sean Kingston and his mom, accused of defrauding vendors out of 1 million dollars. They discover Sean Kingston's troubled past, Janice Turner's eyebrows, his discography, and where it all stands today. Stay schemin’! Keep the scams coming and snitch on your friends by emailing us at [email protected]. CON-gregation, catch Laci's TV Show Scam Goddess, now on Freeform and Hulu! Follow on Instagram: Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod Laci Mosley: @divalaci Ira Madison III: @irathethird Research by Kathryn Doyle SOURCES https://www.reggaeville.com/artist-details/sean-kingston/about/ https://www.aaemusic.com/artist/sean-kingston/ https://www.theguardian.com/music/2011/may/31/sean-kingston-jet-ski-crash https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/29/us/sean-kingston-mother-fraud-guilty.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/24/arts/music/sean-kingston-arrested.html https://variety.com/2025/music/news/sean-kingston-guilty-wire-fraud-decades-in-prison-1236351705/ https://www.tmz.com/2025/03/28/sean-kingston-found-guilty-federal-wire-fraud-case/ https://nypost.com/2025/03/29/entertainment/sean-kingston-mom-janice-turner-found-guilty-in-florida-federal-wire-fraud-case/ https://mginjuryfirm.com/sean-kingston-jet-ski-accident/ https://nypost.com/2025/03/29/entertainment/sean-kingston-mom-janice-turner-found-guilty-in-florida-federal-wire-fraud-case/ https://abc3340.com/news/entertainment/miami-jury-finds-sean-kingston-and-his-morther-guilty-of-defrauding-vendors-in-high-profile-fraud-case-eenie-meenie-fire-burning-beautiful-girls-south-florida-news-april-4-2025

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• 2:25Laci Mosley?

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• 2:54Laci Mosley?

  Back with another installment of the comedy podcast all about robbery, fraud, and those who practice it. Sometimes we love them, sometimes we hate them. And you already know congregation, get up, wave your hands, put your, um, Martin Luther King, you know, y'all got them fans with the, with the popsicle stick on the end from the funeral home. Yeah, wave them in the air, wave them in the air. Cause you already know that I'm very what? Yes, excited for today's guest. He is a bishop of the congregation, an OG member. Welcome him back to the clergy, okay? He's a dope guest. He's an American television writer and podcaster born in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, alma mater, I could never say Loyola correctly, Loyola University. He's the main host of the Crooked Media Podcast, Keep It,

• 3:39Laci Mosley?

  a podcast where pop culture and politics collide. He released his book recently, which is guaranteed to be a good time. Y'all ready, cover to cover in one sitting. It's called Pure Innocent Fun Essays. It's a nostalgic collection of 16 original essays combining a memoir and criticism, offering a brand new pop culture manifesto, and it certainly does that. Congregation, please welcome the incomparable Ira Madison III to the show. Hello, Ira.

• 4:06Speaker 06

  Hi, Sister Lacey.

• 4:09Laci Mosley?

  We got through it. Once I edit it, it's gonna sound perfect. But I did read Pure Innocent Fun, cover to cover, and I had so much pure innocent fun. I have beef now with Ms. Halston, who definitely should have cast you in one of them damn plays.

• 4:24Speaker 06

  Thank you.

• 4:27Laci Mosley?

  So she'll be on my shit list forever. I had a, I had a theater teacher like that. I did get cast, but I would never get like the main role. But that shows her. I'm the only professional actor out of that damn school. So, you know, adversity, adversity.

• 4:39Speaker 06

  They do it to us, you know, they do it to us. The, the person who's the lead is never, do you ever see them anywhere?

• 4:45Laci Mosley?

  Mm-mm. I'm not gonna throw no shade, cause if I say what they doing right now, then that's no shade. But like, they're definitely not working in the industry. But you know what? That's fine. I played my bit parts to the best of my ability and I ended up winning awards for them. So I was like, y'all can't hold me back. Y'all can't hold me down. But I did also have to work in the like set department as well. Like you like doing tech work and stuff sometimes.

• 5:07Speaker 06

  Exactly.

• 5:09Laci Mosley?

  I know how to work a circular saw, not well, but you know, they let me have it.

• 5:14Speaker 06

  I know how to sew, you know, I know how to do the things.

• 5:17Laci Mosley?

  I know which props go on which prop table, okay? And now I work in entertainment. So y'all lost, I won anyways. No, but I really loved your book. Uh, it was very nostalgic for me, just like going through all these like historical pop culture moments and kind of seeing them through your lens of like growing up as a youth. And so it was really fun. What, what made you want to write this book?

• 5:40Speaker 06

  Well, I feel like I've always wanted to write some form of a book. When I was a kid, I thought I was gonna write my own Goosebumps.

• 5:46Laci Mosley?

  Cause you was on them forums. You been, you writing on the forums.

• 5:50Speaker 06

  Baby, I was, I was, I loved Goosebumps. I was writing on the Buffy forums. I was doing fanfic. Uh, I thought I was gonna write either that. I was gonna write, you know, some, um, Fear Street books, some Christopher Pike. Like I would have even written my own like Hunger Games or something, you know? But, um.

• 6:05Laci Mosley?

  Okay.

• 6:06Speaker 06

  No, I went to school for theater and then I started working in TV in LA. So I think all that stuff like gets away from you. You, you know what it's like, you know? You're, you're doing something for so long and then you sort of, you don't have time to do anything else if you're trying to do it well, you know? But, um, I'm gonna take you right on back to this little thing called COVID. And, uh, then the writer's strike. Back to back. So.

• 6:34Laci Mosley?

  Which took forty-two percent of the writers out the game. People didn't realize like the recovery after the writer's strike was not like, oh yay, we off the pick a lot, everybody go back to work. It was like now everybody go write their own show by themselves. What, what's going on? Where the rooms?

• 6:47Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 6:47Laci Mosley?

  What's happening?

• 6:48Speaker 06

  I'm, I'm on the other side of the game.

• 6:53Speaker 06

  In the bookstore. So that is what happened to me. I was just, um, I don't know, reading one of my favorite books, Sex, Drugs and Cocoa Puffs, which was sort of much close to men, very formative to me for falling in love with pop culture criticism. Um, and got me into writing it, you know, for like GQ, New York Magazine, BuzzFeed, et cetera. And, um, I was rereading it when we were in lockdown and I was like, this is, this is something I can write, actually, you know? It was just a longer form version of what I'd been writing for magazines and websites. And so I was like, let's get in on that. It was a lot harder than I thought.

• 7:33Laci Mosley?

  And you went to Amsterdam to do it, right?

• 7:34Speaker 06

  I did, I went everywhere.

• 7:36Laci Mosley?

  That's very writer-y of you to like go to a remote, uh, European city and write your book. I just imagine you having so many coffees and like staring out the window and having a typewriter, like an old school typewriter.

• 7:49Speaker 06

  Yes, I like a little, um, I like a little writer's vacation, you know? I think everyone tries to have their little Baldwin or something moment, but I just, I can't really write at home. I think since, since, you know, COVID and everything, it's, uh, once I started recording a podcast at home exclusively and then all of my other work I do is at home too. You know, it's, um, it's so hard for me to just write inside the apartment.

• 8:15Laci Mosley?

  So we need to change the scenery.

• 8:16Speaker 06

  You need to change the scenery, you know? And so I put in the back, actually I put everywhere that I wrote the book, you know? I wrote it on Fire Island during the summer. I wrote it.

• 8:23Laci Mosley?

  Now, how were you writing on Fire Island? I know there was a lot of parties going on and a lot of fun.

• 8:28Speaker 06

  Well, now, listen.

• 8:29Laci Mosley?

  Not, not you was at the ounts, ounts, ounts with your quill out, with your quill out over here, ink to paper. And as the gays press their hot sweaty skin next to each other, I couldn't help but wonder. Like, sir, I'm gonna need you to be serious.

• 8:46Speaker 06

  It's, uh, when you go, it's for a share for the whole week, you know? And so my friends have real jobs and most of them do. And when, during the day, when they'd be, you know,

• 8:58Laci Mosley?

  On their computer, yeah.

• 9:00Speaker 06

  I was doing my work from home too, you know?

• 9:02Laci Mosley?

  Okay, classy, classy.

• 9:03Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah, also, I interviewed Nicole Kidman on Zoom like last year for, uh, for La Ficheal, for, um, the magazine cover I did, a profile I did of her last year. From my Fire Island house, girl.

• 9:19Laci Mosley?

  Okay, that's very cool. And I love, like, I love your love for Nikki Kidman. And when you talk about her in the book, because I also do have a deep love for Nikki Kidman. And I do think it's funny that her and Tom Cruise divorced, but then they came back together to bring movies back in their own ways.

• 9:35Laci Mosley?

  Like, I was like, there's nothing like a place like this. And then Tom Cruise was like, I'mma jump off every building. Y'all come get back in these movies. I'm jumping off all these buildings. I'm trying to kill myself. Watch it in 4K. And, you know, they did a great job.

• 9:49Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 9:49Laci Mosley?

  So we always ask on this, on these podcasts, what's your relationship to scams? Have you been scammed? Have you run any? It could be anything recent, anything in the zeitgeist that's really grabbing your attention.

• 10:00Speaker 06

  Baby, I'm running a scam right now.

• 10:02Laci Mosley?

  Oh, we love activity.

• 10:05Speaker 06

  No, now you'll have to describe it for your listeners, you know, but look at this.

• 10:13Laci Mosley?

  Wait a minute, these glasses, I thought these glasses were for seeing. They're just for being seen?

• 10:19Speaker 06

  Now, girl, I, I got LASIK in 2019.

• 10:25Speaker 06

  And everyone who knew me prior to then, used to, I, I wore, I wore glasses, you know? Uh, I never was a contacts person.

• 10:33Laci Mosley?

  I'm a contacts person.

• 10:34Speaker 06

  I was, I could not get the contacts in, girl. So I was never a contacts person. And after like the LASIK, um, I got used to like my, you know, my face without the glasses. But there was a certain point last year or so where I found, um, you know, those like black, like big black. Like the way they sunglasses, right?

• 10:54Laci Mosley?

  Uh huh, yeah.

• 10:54Speaker 06

  I found, uh, somebody was selling a pair in Times Square.

• 10:59Laci Mosley?

  On a blanket?

• 10:59Speaker 06

  Ten dollars, ten dollars, yeah, ten dollars, bought it, bought it. But then I was going to an event and I was like, sometimes, you know, you can like do the like little chic wearing the sunglasses at the event thing, but it was like,

• 11:12Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 11:13Speaker 06

  These didn't really look goo- good for like the outfit or the event. And then they were on ten dollars, so I popped the lenses out and these were chunkier. So it was giving, you know, like, um, Dwyane Wade was giving a different world, like nineties like black chic. And my friends were like, oh my God, I love these. And ever since then, I love a fake glasses.

• 11:35Laci Mosley?

  I love having 2020 vision, but then realizing like glasses really give me that read, so I would keep wearing them.

• 11:41Speaker 06

  Off their vibe, you know? And also the other scam too was this girl saw me at this event and she was like, wait, the way they came up with the CIA glasses for them? And I was like, and I was like, and I was like, yeah, baby, fresh off the runway.

• 11:55Laci Mosley?

  You ain't ready for these, you ain't ready for that. I got these at Fashion Week, okay? They were thrown on at Mercedes Benz and I caught a pair.

• 12:02Speaker 06

  But just like New York, I thought I'd never see this girl again, right? Why did I keep running into her at other things? And she would like tell people, she'd be like, he got like the low, the way they go. So I'm like, girl, enough.

• 12:14Laci Mosley?

  Now you gotta go with the bit, now you gotta go with the bit. You gotta tell everybody, you caught him at Mercedes Benz Fashion Week, Kylie Jenner ripped them off her face and you were like, thank you, Miss Mamas. I also love like having 2020 vision and still wearing glasses for the bit, for the vibe.

• 12:28Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 12:28Laci Mosley?

  They do look good. And you're one of the few people that I know who's had LASIK that they didn't have any trouble with it. So that's good too, a blessing for your corneas. Cause you know, they said the girls who were getting LASIK were going down bad.

• 12:40Speaker 06

  Were they?

• 12:42Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, like a lot of times, like if it's done wrong, like your eyes hurt forever.

• 12:46Speaker 06

  Oh.

• 12:46Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 12:47Speaker 06

  That, listen, I, I'm blanking on the basketball player's name because I don't know NBA. Uh, but, um, but I got, I got my LASIK back when I was still in LA. And I went to, I did my research. I went to this doctor in Beverly Hills who had like done some celebrities' eyes. So I was like, if he ain't, if he ain't fucking up the eyes for them.

• 13:10Laci Mosley?

  Of the stars.

• 13:11Speaker 06

  Then, of the stars, then I'm good.

• 13:13Laci Mosley?

  So you went to the right place. I think a lot of people went to the places that were advertised online. I remember I was in Texas and there was always this laser guy, Dr. Booth, and he had a very strong Texas accent. He went, "My name is Dr. Booth and I'll do your LASIK for you. I'll cut your eye real good." And it just felt like you should not be getting LASIK from Dr. Booth. Um, no shade to Dr. Booth out there. I just felt like he was a little too country with it.

• 13:38Speaker 06

  The girls do that. And it's like, I, case in point.

• 13:41Laci Mosley?

  It's like getting a BBL in Miami, like, or in the Dominican Republic. I'm like, no, I'm gonna do it. I need to go to the best.

• 13:48Speaker 06

  Case in point, there were some, um, people in New York recently who joined a class action lawsuit against this, uh, doctor who it turned out he was giving fake Botox, you know, to people.

• 13:59Laci Mosley?

  Oh, come on.

• 14:00Speaker 06

  For two things about that. One, a friend I know admitted that, um, on Instagram, like, "This is a scam. I'm joining the class action lawsuit, etc." I was like, well, first of all, you would never catch me admitting that I got fake Botox online.

• 14:14Laci Mosley?

  Cause Botox is so cheap. Why are you getting fake Botox?

• 14:17Speaker 06

  Just join the class action lawsuit, but you don't need to tell people on Instagram. And then, two, yes, in Hell's Kitchen.

• 14:25Laci Mosley?

  Joe said, Jess said, "In Hell's Kitchen."

• 14:28Speaker 06

  It was in Hell's Kitchen, girl.

• 14:30Laci Mosley?

  Ain't nothing good happening in Hell's Kitchen.

• 14:32Speaker 06

  Baby, he got a lot of the New York gays, okay? He got a lot of them with the fake Botox. And my other thing too is, one, Botox is so cheap. So why are you going, why are you not going to the best of the best? Right. Why are you not going to the best of the best? And then second, back on like the LASIK thing, this is my eyes, you know? I'm like, if I'm spending money on getting the LASIK, I'm going to the best of the best doctor. I'm not. Like, I get that money is tight. However, we back in a new recession again. But if you are going to do something like that, where if, if it goes wrong, you go blind, then you need to spend the actual money.

• 15:10Laci Mosley?

  I have a nurse practitioner. Shout out to Allison. I go to a nurse who was a nurse. She quit during COVID. She was like, it's too ghetto here. And now she's just, does professional injections. I don't go to no damn, I don't go to no Botox party. What you talking about? We have a champagne and needles.

• 15:25Speaker 06

  Oh, baby. No. Botox and burgers, parties that these girls be inviting people to? Absolutely not.

• 15:32Laci Mosley?

  Absolutely not.

• 15:33Speaker 06

  I'm not shooting up in your living room.

• 15:35Laci Mosley?

  In your living room with a glass of prosecco in a plastic glass? Girl.

• 15:39Speaker 06

  If I wouldn't eat your cooking, if I wouldn't eat your cooking, I'm certainly not gonna get Botox in your living room.

• 15:45Laci Mosley?

  No, you didn't give me some cooks and orange juice. Talk about, here go a needle.

• 15:50Speaker 06

  Not the cooks.

• 15:51Laci Mosley?

  No, no. Y'all got me fucked up. Absolutely not. Not the bougie lay and a needle. Y'all, please be serious. Y'all, certain things do not need to be discounted. That is a scam. If you get major surgery, if you wanna get you a BBL or a little, or a knee BL of that, the guys are getting knee BLs, breaking their knees to get longer legs. I'm like, please don't learn how to walk again 'cause you wanna be three feet taller. Like, that's not, let's not do this. But if you gonna do it, please, go to a professional. No one you saw online. No advertisement you saw on the train for some titties. No. If they got an advertise on the train, on TV, those not the people you wanna go to. Word of mouth, professionals, please.

• 16:32Speaker 06

  Now, I have knee BL. I might need knee surgery soon, though. You know, I'm a...

• 16:37Laci Mosley?

  You are tall. You don't need no knee BL.

• 16:40Speaker 06

  I know, not no DBL. But baby, the knees ain't what they used to be, okay? I'm a millennial of a certain age. You know what it's like.

• 16:47Laci Mosley?

  That's 'cause you be dipping it low and stuff, okay? That's 'cause you be at Fire Island in between writing a book.

• 16:52Speaker 06

  Lil Jon used to tell us to get low. How many songs we grew up with where they were like, get low? Okay?

• 16:58Laci Mosley?

  And we should have better sense than to listen to Lil Jon. And that's really the lesson here, okay? All he was supposed to do was say, "Yeah!" In the back and, "Okay!", and that was enough.

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• 19:09Laci Mosley?

  So let's get into today's episode. To keep it in the pop culture realm, Pure Innocent Fun, our expert here. We're gonna be talking about something y'all have been hitting me up for a long time. Shawn Kingston and his mama Janice.

• 19:28Speaker 06

  Yo Shawn, yo Mr. Kingston.

• 19:31Laci Mosley?

  Mr. Kingston. You're way too beautiful, girl. That's why I gotta scam the government.

• 19:42Laci Mosley?

  He's like, oh, I like that better. Just say, you way too beautiful, girl. That's why I gotta scam the world. Yes. So Shawn Kingston here and his mama Janice stole $1 million worth of watches, cars, jewelry, and mattresses by pretending to pay for them using forged receipts. Now, I will say, cars, jewelry, Shawn King, I know you had that one song. I know Serena Williams took you on a date. At one point, you were really living the high life. And I haven't heard much from you since those days. And I can understand you trying to keep up that lifestyle. We're looking at a picture of him and his mama. He got his mama in some kind of rap dress.

• 20:24Laci Mosley?

  She looks like, you know, she's getting her hair done once a week at the beauty salon.

• 20:29Speaker 06

  She looks a little like Onisha, doesn't she? Respect the law.

• 20:32Laci Mosley?

  A little bit, in the face.

• 20:34Speaker 06

  She did not respect the law, though.

• 20:37Laci Mosley?

  Not at all. They were very much disrespecting the law.

• 20:42Laci Mosley?

  They're on a red carpet, but they look like they're going to two different places. Like, she's got on a gown. He's got on some dusty sneakers and a jacket. And I don't know where they're going. I guess this is the American Music Awards.

• 20:55Speaker 06

  Leather cargo pants, too.

• 20:58Laci Mosley?

  Oh, leather cargos are just, where did you even find these, sir? This is assault.

• 21:02Speaker 06

  That's hood. Like, I, I thought, I thought all of those were confiscated when, um, the police raided the Bad Boy Estates. Like, leather cargo pants is so.

• 21:14Laci Mosley?

  Cause what do you need? They are. Cause what are you putting in those cargo pant pockets? Guns?

• 21:19Speaker 06

  Right.

• 21:20Laci Mosley?

  Baby oil? Why do you have this?

• 21:22Speaker 06

  And they're leather, so you're hot. So you probably don't need extra stuff on you.

• 21:26Laci Mosley?

  So your gun sticking to your thigh through the leather pant? And it's not given true leather. It's, yeah, sweaty cheeks is just, sweaty cheeks for sure. Like, you know, when they use the bathroom, like, when they pull their pants down, I feel like the mirror, the mirror definitely fogging up just from like the condensation coming out of them pants.

• 21:43Speaker 06

  I've definitely worn some leather pants once to the club and they, like, trying to get them down to pee or trying to get them off when you get home too is, couldn't be me.

• 21:53Laci Mosley?

  That's where you gotta humble yourself and lay down as an adult and just peel them off your body. Like, you, that you have to really peel them off slow like a fruit roll-up. It's just layers that you gotta get off of your body. You know, you get a fruit roll-up that's been sitting in the store too long and all the plastic, it gets stuck? That's how leather pants are to get off. And I can't imagine if they got this many pockets. But you know what, Sean King? You were, you were giving what the times required of you. I do wanna say, like, cars, watches, jewelry, that's all keeping up the famous facade. And obviously, all we know from Sean King is beautiful, girls. I don't know another Sean King song. Um, was he on American Idol? No, that was Ruben's thud.

• 22:31Speaker 06

  I love how you keep calling him Sean King like the other scammer.

• 22:34Laci Mosley?

  Oh, I know, Sean Kingston. I be getting them mixed up. I be getting them mixed up. Sean definitely Black Kingston. I'm gonna put some respect on his black ass name. But like, I get trying to keep up the celebrity lifestyle because that begets more success. So if we see Sean Kingston at an award show and he's got on his tightest leather pants and his mama on his side, we might be like, ooh, new music, Sean Kingston.

• 23:02Laci Mosley?

  You know, maybe. So, but the mattress for me is what I actually am impressed with.

• 23:07Speaker 06

  The mattress.

• 23:09Laci Mosley?

  Cause like stealing a mattress, okay, at least you wanna, you know, scam and have good sleep. You know what I mean? You scamming a full night's rest so that you can do crime even better.

• 23:18Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 23:19Laci Mosley?

  I wanna know what mattress. Was it a Sleep Number?

• 23:21Speaker 06

  Right.

• 23:22Laci Mosley?

  Was it a Casper?

• 23:23Speaker 06

  Because mattresses are, I will say mattresses are expensive as hell.

• 23:29Laci Mosley?

  They are. And a good one, let's talk about it, okay? So, Shawn Kingston's background. This is my worst Jamaican accent. Thirty-five-year-old Shawn Kingston was born Kishan Anderson. And he grew up in Florida and Jamaica, which is where he got the stage name Kingston. So he just took that from Kingston, Jamaica. He was like, my name is Shawn and I'm from Kingston. You know what? Solid name. Famous record producer Jack Ruby was Shawn's grandfather. Oh, not a nepo. But Shawn had a rough upbringing as he tells it. So he was a nepo a little bit, but he said he had it rough. Okay, this photo is definitely giving rough. Can we go back to that other photo?

• 24:12Laci Mosley?

  What happened to Shawn here? Was this after his skiing accident or something? Jet skiing?

• 24:18Speaker 06

  Oh, we jumping ahead a little bit, right? But that's what I remember. He was on death's door.

• 24:22Laci Mosley?

  That, he was knock, knock, knock. So this is the latest picture of Shawn Kingston. Oh, no, that's worse.

• 24:27Speaker 06

  That's, that's lockup.

• 24:29Laci Mosley?

  That's lockup. That's, he had, he eat ramen noodles. I know his diet is full of salt now. And, and no aki, no, no, no fish. It's, it's giving prison food. Oh, Shawn. Shawn, you gotta start working in the, in the prison, um, kitchen and, and get all vegetables up, cause.

• 24:48Speaker 06

  Get in the prison gym too.

• 24:49Laci Mosley?

  You real puffy, baby. So his mother and his sister were sent to prison when Shawn was fifteen. His mother, Janice Turner, AKA Mama Kingston. Now she changed her name to Mama Kingston where her son got on. Look at her. She was like.

• 25:02Speaker 06

  Oh, mama.

• 25:05Laci Mosley?

  Tattooed eyebrows. And look, she still had her last extensions when they picked her up. She had just got a fresh fill.

• 25:11Speaker 06

  Batty.

• 25:12Laci Mosley?

  Batty, pose for me.

• 25:15Speaker 06

  The wig is gone.

• 25:16Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, they took her wig. They took, like, she got almost like the Stevie Wonder situation where the braids is starting at the nape of the neck because where is the hair in the front?

• 25:25Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 25:26Laci Mosley?

  That, you can only have that hairstyle if you blind, babes. Like, I know you can see that. We can, we give Stevie a pass because he blind. Like, you can't have that, baby, but okay. So Mama Kingston, as she's known on Instagram, pled guilty to stealing over $160,000 in a bank fraud scheme and spent more than a year in prison at that time. And so this is a quote, Shawn Kingston said, "I've been through a lot. I did 21 days in jail, been to boot camp, got sent to Jamaica, slept in cars with my family. I had a rough life." Okay, Shawn. I understand why you went to scamming. Like, you had a rough life, sleeping in cars with your mama and, and the back of her braids. That's, this is a tough time. I can also understand why you would want a mattress.

• 26:10Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 26:11Laci Mosley?

  But the mama got her eyebrows tattooed too.

• 26:14Speaker 06

  I'm looking it up now too, and I have a Satva mattress. Um, which is, you know, it, it runs for like 2,100.

• 26:23Laci Mosley?

  Okay. I had a Casper.

• 26:25Speaker 06

  Yeah, I got, but I got that when I first moved into this

• 26:31Speaker 06

  three and a half years ago, and so I've, I've had it ever since, you know? And it's gonna move with me to my next apartment too, because it's a good ass mattress.

• 26:39Laci Mosley?

  It's a good ass mattress.

• 26:40Speaker 06

  That's another, that's another thing too, just like, um, spending money on surgeries or whatever.

• 26:44Laci Mosley?

  You gotta go for the quality.

• 26:46Speaker 06

  You gotta go for the quality with the mattress, because that, baby. Yeah, I wanna, I wanna tell young people listening, your future self will thank you for spending the correct amount of money on your mattress. Because I've had a bad mattress in my twenties. I've got the IKEA mattresses before, okay?

• 27:03Laci Mosley?

  I had one mailed to me from Walmart that when you open it up, it starts to inflate with the air.

• 27:08Speaker 06

  That's, yes, we've all been on those mattresses.

• 27:11Laci Mosley?

  Mm-hmm.

• 27:11Speaker 06

  That, that is why I got the back problems I got now.

• 27:14Laci Mosley?

  Right, if you don't want a crick in your neck, if you don't want any of that, then you might have to scam yourself a good mattress. They weren't wrong with that one. That was a good purchase.

• 27:22Speaker 06

  And back problems, back problems are not like, you always hear old people joking about it. It's not, it's not a joke. Like a back problem fucks up your day, fucks up your life. Like, it does not go away. It hurts.

• 27:34Laci Mosley?

  And it comes back randomly. It'd be like, ooh, it's a little rainy outside. Here go my back. What?

• 27:39Speaker 06

  Right. You'll think you're perfectly fine. I think my back problems went away for like years. I had to get a personal trader to like get it out of it. And all of a sudden, I'm just like, like getting on the subway.

• 27:50Laci Mosley?

  Stretch every day, y'all.

• 27:51Speaker 06

  And then I'm just like, ooh, it's like your back goes out. And I'm like, actually, y'all, I'm gonna have to go home.

• 27:56Laci Mosley?

  No, no, but you gotta go home.

• 27:58Speaker 06

  No, no, because when the back, baby, when the back goes out, out, it's, then you're, you're done for the day.

• 28:03Laci Mosley?

  Yes. So y'all stretch every day, get a good mattress, even if you gotta scam it. It'll be, it's a lifetime guarantee. That's a lifetime scam guarantee is a good mattress. So, you know, Sean Kingston had a rough life, right? But he had breakout fame as a teen and seemed to lift him and his family out of that rough life. He borrowed a friend's computer to join MySpace, where he found the page for producer J R Roto, who produced Rihanna's S O S. And Kevin S O S.

• 28:33Speaker 06

  Baby, I, I love J R Roto, okay? I was just gonna put that out there.

• 28:40Laci Mosley?

  Look how he looks.

• 28:42Speaker 06

  If, uh, you know what?

• 28:44Laci Mosley?

  How much hair product does he have in right now?

• 28:46Speaker 06

  That's a lot of hair product for that time.

• 28:49Laci Mosley?

  He uses in a jar a day.

• 28:51Speaker 06

  Girl, it would have worked on me back in that era. Okay, he's, by the way, he's South African.

• 28:56Laci Mosley?

  Oh, Lauren, not another one of our white South Africans. He better be doing better than Elon.

• 29:02Speaker 06

  Okay, but he's not Elon, okay? Because he gave us S O S. He gave us, um, obviously Beautiful Girls and Take You There by Sean Kingston. He gave us Ashley Tisdale. He said, she said. Uh, he gave us, um, Cheetah Girls, Fuego, okay? He gave us Britney, Everybody.

• 29:21Laci Mosley?

  See, this is why we have the pure innocent fun expert here. Because Ira knows everything about pop culture. He ain't reading nothing. He literally just knows.

• 29:29Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 29:30Laci Mosley?

  Okay, so he contributed to the community.

• 29:32Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 29:32Laci Mosley?

  He can stay in America.

• 29:34Speaker 06

  One of my favorite songs, Walkin' Not a Talker, which is from Maya's album Liberation, which I don't think it was even released in the US. I think it was like Japan. But, um.

• 29:44Laci Mosley?

  Damn, Maya. You can get over here.

• 29:47Speaker 06

  His, um, like his credit shout, just the way she's like, JR, like, I love it. And by the way, look up Walkin' Not a Talker. It's a great song featuring Snoop Dogg. And also look up the demo Walkin' Not a Talker, because it was originally from Lindsay Lohan.

• 30:01Laci Mosley?

  Okay, I could see Lindsay eating that up too. I do, I love a Lindsay moment. I'm tired of rumors started. I'm sick of being followed. Yeah, I love, I love Lindsay in all her eras, her messy eras, all of them. So, yes, JR Rodeum, who obviously is iconic in the music scene, uh, was found by Sean Kingston on MySpace. And you know, that's used to be where the girls would be getting their hits. Like Cassie had, it's me and you now, I've been waiting. On MySpace, and that was a bop, okay? Um, he also did a Kevin Federline's Most Hated. Uh, I don't remember that, but Kevin Federline did try to do music before he just tried to be Britney Spears's, um, teat.

• 30:40Speaker 06

  You don't remember Popo's Out?

• 30:42Laci Mosley?

  Oh, Popo's Out. No, yes.

• 30:46Speaker 06

  Let me tell you about scams and embarrassing moments. And this will, this will be in, this will be in book two. You got a little tease, by the way, because book two's gonna get into the 2000s. Um, one night during college at Loyola, I went to the House of Blues and I did see Kevin Federline perform live.

• 31:04Laci Mosley?

  No. He did Popo's Out?

• 31:06Speaker 06

  Yes. And he was also, this was also like, it was very disrespectful that I was at this concert, because he was sort of like, fuck Britney Spears at one point in it, and no one joined in.

• 31:16Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 31:19Laci Mosley?

  Everyone's just silent. It was just crickets. He was like, oh, y'all not, alright. Anyway, popo's out.

• 31:24Speaker 06

  We're here for the laughs, sir.

• 31:26Laci Mosley?

  Right. Listen, we're here ironically.

• 31:28Speaker 06

  The ticket was fifteen dollars.

• 31:30Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, that's sad. He thought he was having a concert. We're like, this is for a bit. We're all here for the bit, bro. No one's here in any serious capacity. Don't get it confused. But I'm glad he was delulu enough to think that we actually came to see him do popo's out and his little background dancer moves. So Sean emailed JR every day until he got a response.

• 31:49Speaker 06

  Damn.

• 31:50Laci Mosley?

  Listen, you gotta hustle.

• 31:52Speaker 06

  How long? Does it say how long?

• 31:54Laci Mosley?

  It just says every day. So we don't know how many days that it was, but we know it was every, every day.

• 32:01Speaker 06

  Shout out to JR for not blocking him.

• 32:03Laci Mosley?

  Right. That was back before we started blocking people for real. You'd just be like, oh, they emailing me again.

• 32:08Speaker 06

  I block any email now. I block any email now.

• 32:12Laci Mosley?

  Any email now. But MySpace, we wasn't really blocking for real. So JR produced Sean's debut album single, Beautiful Girls, in May of 2007, when Sean was seventeen. It's played at number, it stayed at number one on Billboard's Hot 100 for three weeks. And suddenly, everyone knew who this reggae fusion teenager singer rapper was.

• 32:36Speaker 06

  That's a jam.

• 32:37Laci Mosley?

  His self-titled album was certified gold. He toured with Gwen Stefani, Chris Brown, Kelly Clarkson, and also co-wrote Jason Derulo's number one hit, Mm What You Say.

• 32:50Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 32:51Laci Mosley?

  So he was having a moment in the 2000s.

• 32:53Speaker 06

  And that was the Gossip Girl jam.

• 32:55Laci Mosley?

  Yes, it was. They was playing that song on Gossip Girl. And this is when Jason Derulo wasn't getting on our nerves because he wasn't on TikTok yet. Because then Jason Derulo got on TikTok and I swear, he will not put the baby oil down. And he's just baby oiled up, dancing with muscles every time we turn around. And you know what, Jason? Do what your heart desires. It's kind of cringe, but I love it for you.

• 33:16Speaker 06

  I support Jason Derulo only because when I used to live in LA, I used to go to the Hollywood Equinox, and he used to work out there. He looked good doing pull-ups.

• 33:28Laci Mosley?

  You support him because he looked good doing pull ups?

• 33:30Speaker 06

  He looked good doing pull ups, girl. I'm sorry, Jason Derulo is fine.

• 33:34Laci Mosley?

  I can't support. The only reason I can't support him is because I do think he's a little corny. And when he was with Jordan Sparks, like, and they was having that whole... Remember she had her purity ring and then she was with him? And then he had ran away with her purities and whatnot?

• 33:49Speaker 06

  No, you're not laughing at Jordan's purity.

• 33:51Laci Mosley?

  Right, girls, let's not bring, let's not bring back purity rings ever, y'all. You just, you do what you want with your body. We don't need to see the ring to know if you's, if you trying to keep your coochie pure. Just do what you want with your body. Keep it pure, don't. But you don't need jewelry for it. But yeah, he took away her air and she, she couldn't breathe with no air.

• 34:09Laci Mosley?

  So, you know, he was wrong for that. So in summer of 2008, Jason released, or Sean, excuse me, released a personal song, a heartfelt ode to his mother entitled "Dry Your Eyes", which includes the lyrics, "You know how to make me better even when we lose our cheddar."

• 34:29Laci Mosley?

  So that's foreboding.

• 34:34Laci Mosley?

  And remember, Mama was already a scammer. She had been locked up when he was 15 for stealing $160,000. So if they lose the cheddar, Mama knows how to scam it better. So a beautiful lyric.

• 34:44Speaker 06

  That's family business.

• 34:45Laci Mosley?

  That's family business. Yes, wait, let's hear a little clip of the song, because I don't remember this one. Was it good? Do we remember this song?

• 35:02Speaker 06

  I remember this.

• 35:03Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 35:14Laci Mosley?

  Okay, okay.

• 35:15Speaker 06

  Okay, actually, this album goes off. Let me run it back.

• 35:18Laci Mosley?

  Okay, Sean, we gonna put some respect on your name, Mr. Kingston, because yeah, you did. You had a moment. It was cute. I love that for you.

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• 37:30Laci Mosley?

  So let's get into his jet ski brush with death. I do remember this being in the highlights. So on Sunday night in 2011, Shawn was racing his jet ski along Miami Beach with a female passenger when he hit the Palm Island Bridge around 6:00 PM. Now, why are y'all jet skiing into a bridge? You're not supposed to jet ski at night, bro. Like, did the jet ski have lights on it? What are we doing? I know y'all not sober. So a passing boat rescued Kingston and his passenger from the water, and Miami Fire Rescue brought them to the hospital. He was critically injured in the accident with a torn aorta and required emergency open-heart surgery.

• 38:11Laci Mosley?

  After 23 days in the hospital, he was released and was cited for careless operation. Yeah, driving a jet ski at night and running into a bridge, I'm gonna say is pretty careless. He and his passenger both recovered, and by 2018, he resumed riding jet skis. He said, "That wasn't enough for me at once, one torn aorta?"

• 38:31Laci Mosley?

  One torn aorta ain't gonna stop me from hopping on a jet ski. Like, I think that would do it for me. Are you getting back on a jet ski, Ira, after you tear your heart open?

• 38:39Speaker 06

  First of all, I'm not on a jet ski in the first place. That is not a place where you will find me.

• 38:46Laci Mosley?

  Not even with a little life vest at Fire Island?

• 38:50Speaker 06

  We do not jet ski if... What do you... Fire... What do you think Fire Island is? The Bahamas?

• 38:57Laci Mosley?

  I know, y'all be at the parties.

• 38:59Speaker 06

  Island girl.

• 39:00Laci Mosley?

  Y'all be at the parties. I'm just saying, if y'all wanna take a little break, you know, from the parties.

• 39:04Speaker 06

  Yeah. No, I certainly wouldn't be getting back on it. Also, I remember this because it cut into, um, the promo time for his iconic single. My favorite Shawn Kingston single is "Dud T. Love" featuring Nicki Minaj.

• 39:21Laci Mosley?

  Oh, how does "Dirty Love" go?

• 39:24Speaker 06

  Ay yo, Shawn, you're Mr. King Star. Yes, one of Nicki's best raps.

• 39:30Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, look.

• 39:31Speaker 06

  That's the, that's the "Dirty, dirty, dirty love." I'm feeling like you're letting go.

• 39:37Laci Mosley?

  That song was popping. You can say a lot of things about Nicki Minaj that I'll never say because her fans terrify me, but you know.

• 39:43Speaker 06

  And I'm one of them, watch your mouth.

• 39:45Laci Mosley?

  Oh my God, not a Barb on the show. Now I'm really being scammed.

• 39:48Speaker 06

  Watch your mouth.

• 39:49Laci Mosley?

  Now I'm being scammed. I don't want to be doxxed. I don't need anybody to know where I live. Uh, Barb's, I love y'all. The Swifties and the Barb's, people I will never go up against in my life. But yes, that song, yeah, and Mr. King Star. She does great like features. She has some fire ass features on people's songs. That's one thing about Nicki, if you ask her to be on your song, you will get seasoning. She's not gonna come in half assed. She's going to take your song over, actually. People might not think it's yours anymore by the end. So, so this interrupted the press of that song because he was recovering in the hospital and at a point it was touch and go because I remember people being like, is Shawn King dead? Oh my God, he dead.

• 40:24Speaker 06

  That was the rumor, like for a while. And for years after, people would always tell you, oh, you know, Shawn King's is dead.

• 40:31Laci Mosley?

  Yes. That's not good for your career when people think of you dead.

• 40:35Speaker 06

  I mean, how many times did we think Lil Wayne was dead?

• 40:39Laci Mosley?

  So many times.

• 40:40Speaker 06

  Like constantly and people were always like, you, Lil Wayne died. I'm like, what?

• 40:44Laci Mosley?

  And every time he popped back up in the scene, we'd be like, oh, he not dead. It was because he was having all those lean seizures and we were like, sir. But he survived every one and that's why when he was mad, uh, because he wasn't doing the Super Bowl in Louisiana when Kendrick did it, we were all kind of like, Wayne, we don't know if you're gonna live through a whole Super Bowl concert halftime. Like babe.

• 41:03Speaker 06

  Say that.

• 41:04Laci Mosley?

  Like he was on stage and Birdman was definitely leaning. At one point he was taking naps. Like I think y'all might need to hang it up for a little bit. Do some exercise, re-twist the dread. I don't know, you know, come back to life before we start considering that long of a performance. So.

• 41:20Laci Mosley?

  He wasn't dead, but the girlies thought he was. And although this isn't related to the fraud that we're gonna discover, it's an interesting moment in his life that many places call a turning point for him. It was a time when he recessed and he reassessed what he wanted out of life. Because, you know, he had a near-death experience. That didn't take him off the jet ski, but he was like, I gotta reassess. After his, I think that would've been the reassessment for me, is no jet skis, but okay. So after his debut in the early years, Sean released three more albums in 2009, 2013, and 2022. None which produced another chart-topping hit. I didn't know he had an album in 2022. I did not know about that. That's three years ago, and I had not heard a peep or a word.

• 41:59Speaker 06

  Yeah, oh, and it's, there's not even...

• 42:03Laci Mosley?

  Just look up his albums.

• 42:04Speaker 06

  There's not even a Wikipedia page for it.

• 42:06Laci Mosley?

  No, cuz he died.

• 42:12Laci Mosley?

  The first album he dropped should've been "I'm Not Dead." And then he gotta go do a bunch of publicity studies, like fall down them stairs and we all... You know that stair fall that we always call Jason Derulo at the Met?

• 42:21Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 42:22Laci Mosley?

  Like, he needed one of those, so we knew he was alive again, cuz we definitely forgot. So, let's get into our next topic here. Rich people don't want to pay for things. This is something that I've learned recently. I'm trying to adapt it. Rich people stay rich because they just do not buy stuff, or they get it for really cheap. And I'm like, oh, okay, this is how you keep your money. You don't spend it, and you become a miser. So Sean and his mother were successfully sued on two separate occasions during his music career. The two had to pay $356,000 in 2015 after they were accused in a New York City federal court of failing to pay a customized watch seller. So he didn't win and got a $400,000 watch.

• 43:04Laci Mosley?

  It was like, I'm Sean Kingston, and just like walked out the jewelry store.

• 43:08Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 43:09Laci Mosley?

  Wagwan, y'all watch, and then left. So, yeah, you can't do that. You do need to pay people. Three years later, they were forced to pay $301,000 to a New York jeweler who claimed they scammed the store out of nine items. Last year, civil lawsuits escalated to actual arrests. And in March of 2025, they were found guilty of... Wire fraud for over a million dollars in stolen goods. Now, listen, I told y'all, don't do y'all crime through the mail. Don't do your crime through the wire.

• 43:40Speaker 06

  That's even worse.

• 43:41Laci Mosley?

  No. Through the wire, where your credit transfers fall. The US government will find you and put you in a stall. Don't do it. Like, the wire is the easiest way for them to get you, okay? So, we're at, we have Sean's albums up here, and I don't recognize none of these, except for the first one.

• 44:02Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 44:04Laci Mosley?

  I don't know what he was talking about. I ain't hear no singles, nobody did no TikTok dances. TikTok, y'all get out there and find an undiscovered Sean King song, and y'all do some arm movements to it and help my king out, because he's down bad right now.

• 44:16Speaker 06

  Put some money in his commissary.

• 44:17Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, put so he, so he can get real food, because it look like he really surviving off ramen. And now that sodium is real bad for you, he a little bloated, y'all. Yeah, that picture, yeah, that's a high sodium diet. We gotta help Sean out, because he, he, he not doing well. Them beautiful girls, they, they, they might have got him suicidal at this point, so.

• 44:38Speaker 06

  That is also just, the, the chorus for that song is so funny. Them beautiful girls, they got me suicidal. I'm like, okay, imagine, imagine a young, struggling teen listening to that song.

• 44:52Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 44:52Speaker 06

  On the radio.

• 44:55Speaker 06

  Did they edit out suicidal? Did they edit out the word suicidal on the radio edit?

• 44:59Laci Mosley?

  I don't know. I think they don't, because I remember singing it like, suicidal. And I feel like you just should not be singing that word with such glee. Um, and yet, here we were. It was like, y'all wanna be a bad bitch that makes everybody wanna kill themselves? Yeah, it feels too hard, feels like too much. But that was the time, you know? So, Sean and Janice were found guilty of an organized scheme to defraud businesses, including car dealerships, jewelers, and like, this was to the tune of fifty thousand dollars. They used fake receipts and screenshots of wire transfers to convince sellers they had paid for things like cars and jewelry, when actually no money had been transferred. I do love the privilege here of some black people being able to go places with fake wire transfers,

• 45:41Laci Mosley?

  and be like, yeah, we sent it to you, here's the piece of paper, we gonna drive off the lot now.

• 45:45Speaker 06

  Right.

• 45:47Speaker 06

  Not me, not my world.

• 45:48Laci Mosley?

  No, not in my world. I feel like I want to test drive a car. There's like someone in the backseat with a gun to my head. Like, you better bring it back.

• 45:55Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 45:55Laci Mosley?

  Make a left here.

• 45:57Speaker 06

  Wow, the wire trans, that is, that's bold. And my question too is, now, were they selling these things? Because I'm like, I know you're stunting, but like, I'm not, I'd like, who was Shawn Kingston stunting for with multiple cars and multiple watches?

• 46:13Laci Mosley?

  Is he getting invited to parties? And they're like, oh yeah, Shawn Kings on the list. He's pulling up in his, uh, I don't know, McLaren? Like, what, what are we doing?

• 46:23Speaker 06

  I hope they were selling the items to you pay for their life.

• 46:27Laci Mosley?

  Right, that's what I hope. So now they got a sound system lawsuit. From 2023 to 2024, Shawn contacted victims via a social media platform to purchase high-end merchandise. After negotiating deals, he invited sellers to his upscale homes in Broward County, Florida, using his celebrity status to gain their trust. Shawn promised social media promotions and mentioned high-profile celebrities as potential referrals. So he's still using his beautiful girls' clout to get the girls to go to the Broward County house with their equipment. And he's like, look, I'm gonna post you on Instagram. Everybody gonna post you. Dre, uh, um, who, who else be on Instagram? That one lady who turned Muslim, Brittany Renner. All the girls are gonna post. Tokyo Tony gonna post. Like, don't worry. Everybody's gonna know about your sound system.

• 47:12Laci Mosley?

  So in 2024, a company that sells and installs high-end entertainment systems sued Shawn and his mom for fraud, breach of contract. And, um, all of this was for failing to pay for a 232-inch television and robust sound system that was installed in his Florida home. So he had this installed in his home. That's big as hell. That's like a wall.

• 47:34Speaker 06

  How big is 232 inches?

• 47:37Laci Mosley?

  Too many inches where you had hosting the Super Bowl? What's going on, Shawn? So Shawn promised that exchange for a lower down payment, he would convince Justin Bieber to produce promotional videos for the company. No promotional videos were ever filmed, and Shawn paid only 30,000 of the 115,000 that he owed for the purchase and installation of the television and sound system, the lawsuit says. So he got one picture with Bieber and was like, don't worry, Bieber gonna come out here and be like, your TV's too beautiful, girl. That's why I had to hang it up. You know, like, I don't know. He said he was gonna do this. I'm sure Justin Bieber is so tired of being in black rapper's business because...

• 48:15Laci Mosley?

  Every time I turn around, him and his bang, his bayang is in some rapper's business. And I know he's like, I'm tired, like, leave me alone. I married my white Baldwin wife and I moved back into whiteness. I'm Canadian. Please get all these Negroes with chains away from me.

• 48:32Speaker 06

  He looked pretty good the other day. I saw him at Coachella.

• 48:35Laci Mosley?

  Oh, and he was looking well?

• 48:37Speaker 06

  Yeah, he was looking well with Haley.

• 48:39Laci Mosley?

  Because he been on Instagram looking unwell for a minute. So I'm happy that he looking well again.

• 48:44Speaker 06

  Yeah, you know, his pastor back in the game and got him doing stuff. And we remember when that happened before.

• 48:50Laci Mosley?

  I'm happy for him, whatever works. So the watch, we not done with him pilfering.

• 48:55Speaker 06

  Damn.

• 48:56Laci Mosley?

  A Fort Lauderdale jeweler testified that he gave Sean an Audemars Piguet watch for $285,000 and the promise of introducing him to other celebrities. In a voice memo played during trial, Sean can be heard saying, "I'm going to have you at all my video shoots and red carpets." Now, you as the jeweler should have known, Sean ain't done a video shoot.

• 49:21Laci Mosley?

  He ain't been on nobody's colored carpet in a minute.

• 49:23Speaker 06

  Where are the videos? Come on.

• 49:27Laci Mosley?

  Is he talking about the brown carpet in his Broward County home? Because I ain't seen him on nobody's carpet and in nobody's video for a hot minute, not since he died in the jet ski incident.

• 49:38Speaker 06

  This is my thing too, when I've seen this, you know, listening to your show, I saw it on your TV show, ABC, Hulu.

• 49:46Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 49:47Speaker 06

  Yes, I saw it on your show, Hulu. The celebrities, these quote unquote celebs who scam people, these are, these are people I could rarely feel sorry for. Because you are obviously trying to get in with a celebrity to get something, etc. But. The celebrity is so downtrodden. The celebrity is so far past their expiration date.

• 50:13Laci Mosley?

  But listen.

• 50:13Speaker 06

  What do you think is happening?

• 50:15Laci Mosley?

  If you trying to hit an entry point, you like, they got a little bit of clout. Maybe somebody at the party will feel bad for them and come and then I can connect with a real celebrity. You know what I mean?

• 50:25Speaker 06

  Yeah, that's fair, but videos and carpets? That's what, what, what video? We just looked up, I, we never heard of the last three albums.

• 50:35Laci Mosley?

  No things, no videos, no carpets. Did you mean a handheld camera? He's like, look, get in my iPhone video. This what I mean by video, sir. What do you mean? And so he's posing here with the watch. And I mean, if he's going on a red carpet, he still has to show that he's popping. So this watch is definitely adding to like, oh, Sean King didn't die. He didn't fall off. Look at his Audemars watch. Like, he must have money because that's an expensive watch. So obviously Sean King did not come through with his promise to this jeweler. Um, he gave the jeweler a screenshot of a wire transfer, which the bank said was not authentic. Later, the juror was fired from his job and blacklisted after Kingston never footed the bill. As the jurors.

• 51:17Laci Mosley?

  You lost this man his employment and he should have lost his employment because not a screenshot and he left with a $285,000 watch, bro. Ham, we gonna need more than that.

• 51:26Speaker 06

  A screenshot of a wire transfer is wild to me. I'm calling the bank.

• 51:32Laci Mosley?

  Right, I didn't know you could do this. I'mma, I'mma make me a screenshot of a wire transfer and see how far I can get with it. Because I didn't know people were just taking that off face value. Let me get a picture with one of my billboards and walk in somewhere and be like, I'mma introduce you to Whoopi Goldberg. Give me this $280,000 watch and here's a screenshot of a wire transfer that I did to you. No, look it up after I leave. Sometimes you gotta put the numbers in backwards. Just call me, but it's a fake number and I leave.

• 51:59Laci Mosley?

  The person who did this should have got fired. I'm so sorry, but you were-

• 52:01Speaker 06

  Yeah, that's silly behavior. That's silly behavior.

• 52:04Laci Mosley?

  At least they didn't charge you for the watch, but you gotta go find Sean King to yourself. This gotta be your villain origin story. He can't ea- he looks easy to chase. I feel like you could get him.

• 52:14Laci Mosley?

  I don't think he moving very fast. Like, you could get him. Hop on a jet ski and chase him down in Florida. You got it. So the verdict was, so Sean posted on Instagram before his arrest, as one does. "People love negative energy." Let's look at this Instagram post. He said, "People love negative energy, exclamation point. I am good, and so is my mother. My lawyers are handling everything as we speak." And this is him posting after, "Sean King speaks out after his mother was arrested at his home."

• 52:46Speaker 06

  The comments. You should have had the bill, sir.

• 52:50Laci Mosley?

  No, zoom in on the comments. No, the comments are so disrespectful.

• 52:53Speaker 06

  How can you afford to pay a lawyer, attorney?

• 52:57Laci Mosley?

  But did you pay the lawyers, lol? Oh my god, who did those? Guilty! I guess they attacked you and your family. "Two people are delusional. Sean, what did you do?" Okay.

• 53:11Laci Mosley?

  Hope the lawyer, hope not the lawyer that was on the news, laughing face. You know when you going through real legal trouble and everybody cracking jokes on you in your comments? That ain't right.

• 53:20Speaker 06

  She was arrested for those eyebrows. That's nasty work.

• 53:26Laci Mosley?

  Her eyebrows do give crime. Her eyebrows have never been legal. If I saw those eyebrows, I would pull you over in a routine traffic stop and search your car because I know something ain't right.

• 53:34Speaker 06

  Those are the eyebrows that Jerry's uncle had on Seinfeld. That is, those are crazy eyebrows. I'm sorry, they are-

• 53:46Laci Mosley?

  Have eyebrows ever lied to you? Cause-

• 53:48Speaker 06

  Uncle Leo from Seifel, that she's giving, Uncle Leo, I'm, girl, thank you, Jess, I'm, wow. She looks like she's glaring at me.

• 53:58Laci Mosley?

  Yes, those eyebrows are lying to me as we speak. Like, through the, like, through the video. Like, I would not believe a thing those eyebrows said. So, this makes sense. They were like, "Get her, guys." They were like, "On what grounds?" It's like, you see her eyebrows, lock her up. Yeah, they gotta find an unbiased jury of blind people to have her in court, because I'm gonna say guilty just off the rip. I'm so sorry. So during the trial, one of the key pieces of evidence was a text that Shawn Kingston sent to his mother that read, "I told you to make a fake receipt," followed by, "So it looks like the transfer will be there in a couple of days." So not y'all sending this over text, you couldn't send your mama a phone call like, "Hey mama, make that fake receipt real quick." You sending it via text like, "Hey mama, do the fraud like this." What?

• 54:43Laci Mosley?

  You thought that wasn't gonna get picked up? You, you don't write down crime? Why are you writing down crime?

• 54:49Speaker 06

  I told you to make the fake receipt. Come on now.

• 54:53Laci Mosley?

  Also, you were incriminating yourself as hell. Like, you could've been like, "Mom, do you have the receipt?" You don't gotta say it's fake, and you certainly don't have to be like, "Hey, it's me, Shawn Kingston, doing a robbery here." Hey, mom, did you make that fake receipt?

• 55:05Speaker 06

  Whatever happened to phone calls?

• 55:07Laci Mosley?

  Bring that phone call. Right. If you gonna write something down, put it on a letter that you burn in the fireplace. Like, let's take it back to the OG crime, because y'all gave a little too...

• 55:18Speaker 06

  Like you were in the trader's house. You write all the info and then burn it.

• 55:23Laci Mosley?

  Burn it. Burn it in front of them, because the fuckin' shots are like, "What did you talk about? You sent a text message. Mom, did you get my email with the fake crime that I said we doing this weekend at 2:00 PM at the dealership?" Like, you just gave them everything they needed. What are you doing? So, he wrote down all his crimes, which does not help. The judge said Shawn's mother showed she was the fixer and the nerve center for the alleged fraud screa- like, scheme, while Kingston's defense team claimed he was simply a child who was clueless about his finances. Not you throwing your mama under the boat. You hit a whole song about how she hustling hard for you, and now you gonna throw her under the jet ski like this as soon as y'all go to court? That ain't right.

• 56:01Speaker 06

  He said, "Dry your eyes yourself, ma'am."

• 56:04Laci Mosley?

  Ma'am.

• 56:07Speaker 06

  "Dry your eyes." That was the song, okay? I'm not doing it.

• 56:10Laci Mosley?

  And he did say he wasn't gonna do it. You know, we should've took the hint right there. But he did also say he loved his mama, and that was his number one hustler for better or for poorer, right? Something about some cheddar and being better? But I, I guess when the cheddar ran out, he was like, "You got to go. You expired, mama, damn." They were both found guilty of stealing almost $500,000 in jewelry, more than $200,000 from Bank of America, $160,000 from a bulletproof Cadillac Escalade dealer. More, damn, who was trying to shoot Shawn Kingston that he needed a bulletproof? We didn't know you were alive, son. I don't think anybody was trying to shoot you. You ain't need bulletproof.

• 56:45Speaker 06

  Well, I mean, the jeweler?

• 56:48Laci Mosley?

  Okay, the jewelers, yeah. You're right, because if I'm a jeweler who got fired for that Art of Mars PJ, yeah, I'm, I might be shooting you. I might be shooting you. You're right.

• 56:58Speaker 06

  He had ops in Florida, okay?

• 57:01Laci Mosley?

  And this is also Florida, so them jewelers ain't all on the up and up. He dealing with them uncut gems jewelers. Uncut chaps.

• 57:07Speaker 06

  Yeah, and they, they were all ready to stand their ground, okay?

• 57:10Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, this was very much some Safdie Brothers, Adam Sandler jewelry type niggas who got the gun. They got the blicky right there next to the watches, okay?

• 57:18Speaker 06

  Yeah, they do their own justice in Florida, okay? With black people, he was, he was scared.

• 57:24Laci Mosley?

  You know, the NAACP has had it on their list for a long time of places not to travel to in America, and Florida is one of them if you black. You're not supposed to be over there. They done warned us, they warned us. Definitely not if you doing crime, you need to take your black ass out of Florida.

• 57:37Speaker 06

  It is not in the green book, okay?

• 57:39Laci Mosley?

  It's not in the green book, yeah.

• 57:40Speaker 06

  The whole state, the whole state is just empty. It's don't go there.

• 57:43Laci Mosley?

  Don't go there. Not for spring break, not for Art Basel, not for, uh...

• 57:48Speaker 06

  Not for Disney?

• 57:49Laci Mosley?

  Nope, nope.

• 57:50Speaker 06

  There's one in California.

• 57:51Laci Mosley?

  There's one in California, that's where your black ass goes. Disneyland, not the world, stay out of the world, okay? If you want to stay in the world, stay out of Disney World, because you black, okay? And clearly, he was not getting the memo. And then also, more than a hundred thousand dollars from First Republic Bank. How are you stealing money from banks? I'm intrigued, because I haven't stolen no money from the bank. That's interesting.

• 58:11Speaker 06

  Now, actually, let me not say that.

• 58:15Laci Mosley?

  No, what were you gonna say?

• 58:17Speaker 06

  Let me not say that.

• 58:18Laci Mosley?

  Wait, on the ways, Ira.

• 58:22Speaker 06

  We'll talk off, we'll talk off.

• 58:23Laci Mosley?

  Oh, my lord, okay, I gotta go.

• 58:25Speaker 06

  I was, I was, there could be a college scam, God, I'm sorry about me.

• 58:28Laci Mosley?

  Oh, okay, well, we'll keep that tea, you keep that tea for me. But then also, they stole more than a hundred thousand dollars from the Republic Bank, right? And eighty-six thousand dollars from Mattress Firm on October 23rd.

• 58:41Speaker 06

  That's where it was?

• 58:42Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 58:43Speaker 06

  Oh, this was a, though, high-quality mattress.

• 58:46Laci Mosley?

  Mattress firm, y'all. Now, they sell different types of mattresses at mattress firm. So it might have not been the floor model. It might have been a Sleep Number. It might have been a, you know, Casper. It could have been a Purple. I would hope that it was like a upgraded mattress.

• 58:59Speaker 06

  Okay, they have luxury mattresses at mattress firm. Okay, let me look up here. Okay, they have Surtas, Kingston Crown Imperials, Chatham Wells. Okay, they've, they've got some good mattresses. I would, you know.

• 59:16Laci Mosley?

  Okay, so we're not snooing in our nose. Mattress firm sponsor the show. And, um, but eighty-six thousand dollars worth of mattress, is that two mattresses? Uh, two really high-quality mattresses? It feels like more mattresses than that.

• 59:28Speaker 06

  That's giving multiple mattresses. That's Princess and the P.

• 59:30Laci Mosley?

  Did you furnish your home with all the mattresses? It feels like y'all got like a whole moving truck worth of mattresses and you furnished your, your Broward home with all the mattresses.

• 59:40Speaker 06

  I still need to know if they were boosting these things. Like, were they stealing them to then sell them again? Or did the police recover just all the stuff in the mansion? You know, because if they were selling mattresses to family members or stuff for cheaper or whatever that was stolen, this is a whole different enterprise. But I guess they would be charged with that, too, if they were doing that.

• 59:58Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, but also boosting something so large is crazy. Like, I can't be like, ay, yo, I got them mattresses. That's a whole... I gotta get a truck. I gotta deliver it to your house. We gotta fit it through the door frame. Like, if I'm gonna boost something, it's gotta be lighter. Like, they should have boosted the jewelry for real. But the mattresses, I hope they were just in Shawn Kingston's home. I'm sure he needs a good mattress after his, uh, jet ski incident, you know?

• 1:00:23Laci Mosley?

  So that's understandable. Shawn broke down in tears and cried out for protection for his mother as the two were found guilty. They each face a maximum of twenty years in prison, depending on their sentencing that's coming up this July. Shawn was allowed to post bond of a relative's home at five hundred thousand dollars plus two hundred thousand dollars in cash and is out on house arrest with an ankle monitor. Shawn, you better get in that booth and, and come up with another, another hit.

• 1:00:55Speaker 06

  Yeah, she, she, better, better get on that video set now.

• 1:01:00Laci Mosley?

  Right. Like, I feel like this is where you gotta come out with your scamming song.

• 1:01:04Speaker 06

  This is, I, I just can't get off the, like, the scamming of the video thing because I'm, if I were scamming.

• 1:01:11Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 1:01:12Speaker 06

  I would at least like find like some whack producer, you know, like, like Portia from Atlanta's, like X Dennis, you know, like Drew did. Like find some producer, make a song, make some video for like, you've already boosted stuff. You got the money, make some video, even if you don't have a label, even if you're, you just release it yourself on YouTube. Technically have you fulfill the contract?

• 1:01:35Laci Mosley?

  Yes, and it'll get views. You put it right on Bevo and you call it Sean Kingston's Dead. Everybody gonna click on it because we still don't know if he was alive or not. That's beautiful.

• 1:01:44Speaker 06

  That's the single. That's the single. Sean Kingston's Dead. Sean, if you're listening, Sean Kingston's Dead is the single.

• 1:01:51Laci Mosley?

  Turn down that ankle monitor for a second. Sean Kingston's Dead, the song should be all about all the scamming and fraud you did. You know, it used to be beautiful girls and now it's gonna be, you know, padded walls or like cells or like, you know, ramen noodles. I don't know. You got it. You got it. And, and people want to hear your truth, Sean. While you free, make some coins off of that. Get the girls to do a TikTok dance to it. You don't even need a professional photographer no more. The in, like the internet is a meritocracy. You get somebody who got a good Nikon camera. They follow you around with your ankle bracelet and, and you cry for your mama and visit her in jail and make a music video while you free. Like you gotta do this, Sean.

• 1:02:33Speaker 06

  Dry your eyes could become a TikTok trend.

• 1:02:35Laci Mosley?

  Yep, it definitely could. Dry your eyes. Mama cries. We giving you free game right here. Okay? Prison times. Just, and do it, do it on the mattresses you stole and see if that mattress firm will sponsor you. They're like, the mattresses were too good. I had to steal them.

• 1:02:55Speaker 06

  Don't worry, our prices are a steal.

• 1:02:58Laci Mosley?

  Right, exactly. Ask Sean Kingston. He's like, they really are.

• 1:03:04Laci Mosley?

  He wouldn't know.

• 1:03:05Speaker 06

  That's like Winona Ryder with Mark Jacobs, you know? Like, flip it into something good.

• 1:03:11Laci Mosley?

  Flip it into something good, Sean, because I don't want to see you go out like this. You already look like prison or a little bit of jail you was in was doing you wrong. Get out there, jog to your jet ski. Oh, this picture is just so upsetting every time we see it. It's just.

• 1:03:24Speaker 06

  But he's on house arrest now, so he might be eating. He might, he probably door dashing.

• 1:03:28Laci Mosley?

  OK, I hope he's getting a lot of water and maybe a few jogs in. He definitely needs to get to the studio and give us a whole scam album about how he was doing these. It should be called Wire Fraud. And the first single is I'm Not Dead. And, you know, just like really give the girls a memoir. You know, you already got all the receipts and all the text messages, them, the lyrics right there, you know?

• 1:03:49Speaker 06

  Right.

• 1:03:49Laci Mosley?

  That's the album cover art. Mom, did you fake the wire transfer for me?

• 1:03:53Speaker 06

  Put the audio, drop the audio in there, you know? Like, like remix it.

• 1:03:58Laci Mosley?

  Yes, this is what the girls want to hear, real true crime. Nobody's done a true crime album yet, OK?

• 1:04:03Speaker 06

  Yes, the interludes.

• 1:04:04Laci Mosley?

  Yes, you about to tap into a whole new market, Sean. Go ahead and do that, OK? Because the girls are waiting and they already think you dead anyway. So now they know you alive and get these singles out here. See if Nicki Minaj will come back on one and be like, eh, Mr. Kingston, you're going to prison. You know, and let's get it popping. So how do you feel about this scam overall, Ira?

• 1:04:27Speaker 06

  I like had heard about it. It was, I was just very like, what? And now that we dove into it, this is a top tier foolishness. Top tier foolishness. I'm not, I'm not proud of the scammer. Um, it's not particularly hilarious. Like, we had a good time. We had a key, but there's nothing particularly like ha ha about it, like in the way Hilarious Baldwin was for instance, you know? It's not. It's just sad. It's low rent scamery.

• 1:05:00Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, and I hate to see low rent scamming. I really wish that they had gone for better. The watches had me. I was like an Ardamis, like you stealing $200,000 watches. Okay, that's cute. How are we using that to uplift ourselves? It feels like you were just stealing these things and then you weren't promoting.

• 1:05:17Speaker 06

  To steal. Right, because there's no albums, there's no videos, there's no carpet. So you're just stealing it just to what? To floss in whatever Florida suburb you live in?

• 1:05:27Laci Mosley?

  Literally. Like at least do a music video or try to sneak on somebody's red carpet. I'm sure MTV would let you on there. Maybe you could be one of the opening acts for nostalgia or something. Like, I don't know, pair up with a TikTok influencer, bring your song back or something. But no, you just chose to steal mattresses and watches? For what? This is very boring. Like, in the jet ski incident alone, I'm like, you couldn't, like, you decided to change your life to crime after you had a near-death experience on a jet ski. You got your ass back on the water motorcycle, but you didn't change nothing for the better.

• 1:06:03Speaker 06

  Right, and now you're going to prison. Like, life survives for what?

• 1:06:07Laci Mosley?

  You facing 20 years. You and your mama gonna be locked down in separate prisons. Y'all not even gonna be able to visit each other.

• 1:06:13Speaker 06

  And how old is he now?

• 1:06:15Laci Mosley?

  How old is he now? Let's look it up. I'm also kinda like, I don't want him to go to jail for this. I feel like they could find the mattresses and he could return them. The watches gotta still be out there. He could return those.

• 1:06:25Speaker 06

  Thirty-five.

• 1:06:26Laci Mosley?

  Oh, thirty-five and going to prison is crazy.

• 1:06:30Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:06:31Laci Mosley?

  You gonna get out when you 50? For some watches?

• 1:06:35Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:06:37Laci Mosley?

  I think there should be a, now mama with them eyebrows, she gotta stay in jail because this is her second offense. Like, them eyebrows always gonna do crime. She don't got a choice. They said robbery and fraud. Those are my eyebrows. They may not be twins, but they are co-conspirators, okay?

• 1:06:52Speaker 06

  Now, she couldn't scam to like get some like, like a hair transplant for the eyebrows?

• 1:06:58Laci Mosley?

  No, the I, she was like, the eyebrows are enough. That's all I need.

• 1:07:00Speaker 06

  Do they do that in, do they do that in Turkey? Eyebrows?

• 1:07:03Laci Mosley?

  They probably do. They definitely do a lot of stuff. Like, I know at least Chrissy Teigen got an eyebrow transplant. And when you get your eyebrows transplanted, they grow like wherever the hair they took it from. So you gotta get them trimmed, cuz then they be growing out like a bayang. But yeah, so if you, if you want some Zendaya brows, you can definitely get them, y'all. You just gonna have to trim them up. But I have curly hair. I thought about it. And then I was like, my, my, I'mma have like a fro eyebrow, eyebrow fro. I would have the perm.

• 1:07:27Speaker 06

  I have, um, I have perfect eyebrows, I fear.

• 1:07:29Laci Mosley?

  You do?

• 1:07:30Speaker 06

  I've, I've never had to shave them either.

• 1:07:33Laci Mosley?

  I plucked once when I was eight and I never, I never recovered.

• 1:07:36Speaker 06

  They don't grow. They don't grow at all.

• 1:07:38Laci Mosley?

  It was like, they never recovered right here. They're still cute, but they never recovered right here from one plucking when I was eight. Cuz you know, that was like the early 2000s when the girls wanted like four hairs in one line. And that was eyebrow. So I was trying to do that.

• 1:07:51Speaker 06

  Tiny Char- Charlie Puth little scar on one of them. Cuz like a, a vase fell on me at my auntie's when I was a kid.

• 1:07:57Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 1:07:58Speaker 06

  Up to no good, like reaching up for stuff what I shouldn't as a kid. And the vase fell and hit my head. But other than that.

• 1:08:03Laci Mosley?

  No, they're gorgeous. I can see them through these glasses that are definitely real glasses. Not the whip of the hair where you took them off. I'm dead. Do you think that, um, Sean Kingston's story would qualify for the second edition of Pure Innocent Fun? Or is it not pop culture iconic enough? Cuz there's some very iconic pop, like pop culture moments in this book.

• 1:08:23Speaker 06

  Maybe, maybe for the second edition. You know, we're gonna dive into the 2000s, so this is my college years.

• 1:08:28Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, so you think like he could make it in here perhaps?

• 1:08:31Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:08:32Laci Mosley?

  Okay, cuz reading this, I really kinda just went on a journey of all different times. And I will say that, uh, without spoiling the book, y'all. If, if you want to hear about pop culture, if you wanna learn about Ira's life and his enemies and all types of tea in his gay youth adult, you definitely need to pick up Pure Innocent Fun. But also, he is just a curator of pop culture and knows so much about it. And it will take you on a ride. It will remind you of things. It's kind of like a warm hug. I loved it so much. I especially loved the moments where you're talking about, um, black television shows that like shaped your youth. And not to spoil, but one thing that did make me laugh really hard is when you were talking about The Cosby Show, Fresh Prince, and, um,

• 1:09:17Speaker 06

  Family Matters.

• 1:09:18Laci Mosley?

  Family Matters. And how Family Matters was the one that got you emotional.

• 1:09:22Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 1:09:24Laci Mosley?

  And then when I really thought about it, I was like, no, it actually makes sense. Like Steve Urkel and Carl did have this real relationship where Steve was a weirdo who was abandoned by his parents and then Carl and him have a real relationship. And I was like, yeah, that that actually was beautiful. It was. So you taught me to think about certain things like in different ways and it's a very fun book. So I don't know if Sean's gonna make it into his sequel book, y'all, but Pure Innocent Fun, you can get it anywhere books are sold. You can also listen to the book wherever audiobooks are sold. I read it cover to cover in one sitting and I had a really fun time with this. Also, the way you ended, I'm not gonna spoil it, but I'll tell you off.

• 1:10:03Speaker 06

  A cliffhanger.

• 1:10:05Laci Mosley?

  It made me cackle. I was like, sir, are you serious? And then I like flipped to the next page, so I was like, he's not serious. And then I was like, oh, he's serious. So if you wanna know.

• 1:10:14Speaker 06

  It's a cliffhanger and it's appropriate for scams, too.

• 1:10:18Laci Mosley?

  It is. If you wanna know the cliffhanger that'll have you gagged and looking like, there has to be more pages after this. And then you're like, oh, this is really what he chose to do. So fun. But Ira, we always ask at the end of the show, where would you like to be found? Anything you wanna plug?

• 1:10:32Speaker 06

  Find me in the bookstore. Okay?

• 1:10:37Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 1:10:38Speaker 06

  Pure Innocent Fun in the bookstore, Pure Innocent Fun on Audible, wherever you listen to podcasts or, sorry, wherever you listen to audiobooks or wherever you read books is where you can find the book. Oh, and it was just announced that I'm hosting the 30th anniversary of This American Life at Tribeca Film Festival with Ira, Ira Linca.

• 1:11:01Laci Mosley?

  An Ira, Ira Linca.

• 1:11:02Speaker 06

  Me and Mr. Glass.

• 1:11:04Laci Mosley?

  The Third and the Glass. I'm so glad that's right. Okay, that's something not to be missed. And then social media profiles.

• 1:11:11Speaker 06

  Ira the Third on Instagram.

• 1:11:13Laci Mosley?

  Ira the Third on Instagram.

• 1:11:14Speaker 06

  I'm not on any of the other ones. It's over.

• 1:11:17Laci Mosley?

  I'm still hanging on.

• 1:11:18Speaker 06

  I'm tired of talking to people.

• 1:11:20Laci Mosley?

  I'm still talking to y'all. You can find me at D I V A L A C I, Diva Lacy, on all platforms. If you want to buy my book, audiobook, Audible, it's all out there. Scam Goddess. If you want to watch my television show, Scam Goddess, that's all episodes are airing on Hulu. If you want to watch Going Dutch, all episodes are airing on Hulu. If you want to see these photos of down bad Sean Kingston, get on Scam Goddess Pod Instagram.

• 1:11:42Speaker 06

  We didn't even talk about the fact that we were both shooting TV shows in Ireland, girl.

• 1:11:48Laci Mosley?

  No, we didn't.

• 1:11:50Speaker 06

  You shot in Ireland, in Dublin, and I was shooting The Floor on Fox. Both two Fox TV shows.

• 1:11:57Laci Mosley?

  Fox is like, we live in Ireland now. They're like, this is where we go now. Yes.

• 1:12:02Speaker 06

  Wait till they get, what's the, what's the zip code in Dublin? It's go, that's gonna be the new Beverly Hills.

• 1:12:07Laci Mosley?

  Literally, because we're gonna make it cute. Did you live, I know you lived in Dublin because that's where it's all popping and, and in the streets. I lived in Greystone. That's where, you know, it's like bougie and rich and someone definitely committed a murder and the town has secrets. That's where I lived, like off the coast. So I was always jumping in the ocean. And congregation, I want y'all to get out there and stay kingin', okay? Get out there and stay, maybe not Sean kingin', because he did a lot of bad thefts. But y'all get out there and y'all stay kingin', because y'all way too beautiful, girl. And that's why I'm suicidal.

• 1:12:44Speaker 06

  Don't settle for anything less than dirty love.

• 1:12:47Laci Mosley?

  Ever, ever. And Mr. Kingston, going to prison.

• 1:12:55Laci Mosley?

  This has been an Earwolf production in association with Team Coco. Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Our producer is Jessica Sisneros and our audio engineer is Rich Garcia. Research for the show is conducted by Kate Doyle. Stay schemin'.

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