Signal War Plans Scandal EXPLODES | PBD Podcast | Ep. 566

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick cover Pete Hegseth and the Signal war plans scandal, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Bernie Sanders launching "The Fighting Oligarchy Tour," and Disney's Snow White bombing at the box office. -------- 📕 CELEBRATE NATIONAL READING MONTH: https://bit.ly/4iYqL3N 👕 GET THE LATEST VT MERCH: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BZbD6l⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3BZbD6l 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 📰 VTNEWS. AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3OExClZ 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:01Speaker 00

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• 0:54Speaker 03

  Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright? Handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.

• 1:02Patrick Bet-David?

  You are a one of one?

• 1:03Speaker 03

  My son's right there.

• 1:04Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 1:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it is a, it is a pretty wild thing. Anyways, we're live, gang. A lot to cover, a lot. Some things was revealed, apparently on Signal. Communication, people on the left are losing it, but at the same time, UAE comes out and says we're gonna put 1.4 trillion dollar investment into the US. You got, uh, who is it? Hyundai, 21 billion. You got Rolls Royce saying they're gonna start developing their cars and stuff here in the US with 6,000 jobs being created. Very interesting things. And by the way, one of the, one of the charts I want to show you guys is a number of what happened the moment China joined the World Trade Organization. I'm gonna show you numbers and what it looks like. You'll be shell shocked, absolutely shell shocked. We'll cover that.

• 1:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam was kind enough this weekend to go watch Snow White, so he can give us an update? Got you, PBD. I got you, baby. The, the, apparently according to the actress, what's her name? Zegler, Ziegler? Rachel Zegler, yeah. Rachel Zegler. A line outside of the theaters around the nation just to see her. According to her because she's such an incredible actress. And knows how to really activate the feelings we had as kids and. Watching this or daughters or you know, take our family to watch the movie. But unfortunately, that's not what the market said. It's heartbreaking to see her go through this, and I don't think a lot of people are surprised by it.

• 2:33Patrick Bet-David?

  It Trump demands a full-throated apology from Maine governor. On transport's flap to settle funding dispute even. As universities backed down, Trump's got a lot of, Tom's got a lot of thoughts on that. Trump revoked security clearance for Joe Biden and entire family, Kamala Harris, Hillary Clinton, and many others. U.S. gold cart scheme a hit. Trump's top official says they've sold 1,000 in a day. 1,000 in a day. That's a big number. He said this, I think, on a podcast with Allin and Chamad and those guys. All right, next carmakers rush to ship. Vehicles to U.S. ahead of new round of April tariffs. Tom's got some thoughts on that. Tesla vandalizers hit with severe charges. Justice Department announces. You got to hear this one.

• 3:16Speaker 05

  Good.

• 3:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Hexit makes move against judge after she blocked trans troops. Ban and you have to see this tweet that Vinnie showed me yesterday. Absolute epic what that was. Cori Bush. Cori Bush's husband charged in alleged COVID fraud scheme. Not many people are surprised, but you know, there's some commentary Tom wants to give on that. RFK calls to ban one of Big Pharma's most powerful tools. Rattle drug makers despite uncertain political. Prospects. By the way, if he does this. Half of mainstream media companies will have to fire. Half their people. And the other half will go out of business or be sold to somebody else. It's going to be devastating if he ends up doing this. Germany foreigners account for one in three long-term unemployed.

• 4:02Patrick Bet-David?

  A foreigners account. It's a very interesting story there as well. The salary you need to be considered middle class in every state of America. Adam's got some thoughts on that. Snow White. We'll talk about Snow White. Rosie O'Donnell goes full erection denier.

• 4:18Speaker 05

  No, it's election.

• 4:19Tom Ellsworth?

  It's election, I think.

• 4:20Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm sorry.

• 4:20Speaker 05

  But you're right, though, because she is, she is an erection denier. Because she's a lesbian, but.

• 4:27Patrick Bet-David?

  So I was right.

• 4:27Speaker 05

  You are technically right. It's a call of double entendre.

• 4:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, 4.1 billion men have denied having erection within five feet of her.

• 4:35Patrick Bet-David?

  You guys are making fun of my English and you're telling me I'm wrong, but I'm right. You're right. So how do I read this? Do I say Rosie O'Donnell goes full election then I erection then I? Do both. Okay, election then I was like claims must stole 2024 for Trump. CNN dunks on Gavin Newsom's blatant lies about his past. I got some opinions on him. I was on Hannity sharing what I think is gonna happen here and I think it's gonna happen very, very soon, folks. Bill Maher reveals he's going to meet Trump at the White House and his friends are not happy about it, not at all. Jimmy Kimmel attempts to backtrack after appeasing to give wink and nod to anti-Tesla terrorists. And then we got a couple other stories. I don't know if you remember Kane Velazquez a few years ago. Yep. When there was somebody that did something to his four-year-old son and he went out

• 5:20Patrick Bet-David?

  of his way, the shooting, the former champion is now getting five years for it. Ooh. Yeah, exactly. And Hyundai announced $20 billion investment in the US. And we got a few other stories. Something that's going on with The Atlantic, with Steve Jobs's widow. But prior to doing that, gang, I'll make it very simple for you. I get a lot of mannequins, a lot of questions about people telling me, Pat, you know, I'm at a point in my life where, you know, I just can't find myself to get to the next level. My life is good, my wife is good, my family is good, my this is good, but I'm just having a hard time getting out of bed. I'm having a hard time being fired up. I'm having a hard time identifying what I need to do next. And I tell them, every single one of them, I said, get off this mannequin, go order the book, Choose Your Enemies Wisely, read it, mannequin me back when you finish the book, you'll see why.

• 6:05Patrick Bet-David?

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• 6:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Your Enemies Wisely, sign copies on VTmerch.com. Okay, with that being said, let's get right into it. Rob, this is the Trump officials text war plans.

• 7:02Patrick Bet-David?

  To a group chat on a secure app that includes a journalist, which is kinda weird, right? This is a story that comes out yesterday. And they were all over the place talking about this. I'll read this to you, and Rob, let's play a couple of clips. Top Trump officials, including Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, Vice President JD Vance, Marco Rubio, and National Security Advisor Mike Walz, texted war plans for Yemen strikes to a Signal group that accidentally included Jeffrey Goldberg, editor in chief of The Atlantic. Goldberg reported contained operational details of forthcoming strikes on Iran-backed Houthis rebel in Yemen, including information about targets, weapons the US would be deploying. The attack sequencing, the National Security Council confirmed, appears to be authentic. And Trump initially said, "I don't know anything about it. You're telling me about it for the first time."

• 7:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Before joking via Elon Musk post, "4D chess genius Trump leaks war plans to The Atlantic where no one will ever see them." The leak revealed by The Atlantic on Monday sparked outrage. The Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer calling it "one of the most stunning breaches of military intelligence I've ever read about in a very long time." Okay, Rob, let's go through a couple of these clips. So here's the President of the Roosevelt Room. Go forward, Rob.

• 8:07Speaker 07

  The story in The Atlantic that said that some of your top cabinet officials and aides have been discussing very sensitive material through Signal and included in Atlantic reporting for that. What is your response to that?

• 8:21Speaker 08

  I don't know anything about it. I'm not a big fan of The Atlantic. To me, it's a magazine that's going out of business. I think it's not much of a magazine, but I know nothing about it. You're saying that they had what?

• 8:31Speaker 07

  They were using Signal to ordinate on sensitive materials and...

• 8:36Speaker 08

  Having to do with what? Having to do with what? What were they talking about?

• 8:41Speaker 07

  With the Houthis.

• 8:42Speaker 08

  The Houthis? You mean the attack on the Houthis? Well, it couldn't have been very effective, because the attack was very effective, I can tell you that. I don't know anything about it. You're telling me about it for the first time. Any...

• 8:54Patrick Bet-David?

  What else you got? You got one response from Hegseth as well?

• 8:58Speaker 09

  I do. This is Pete Hegseth getting off a plane where he's asked about the Signal leak.

• 9:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Go forward.

• 9:04Speaker 07

  Exactly what we're doing as we speak from the beginning overwhelmingly.

• 9:08Speaker 10

  Why were those details shared on Signal? And how did you learn that a journalist was privy to the targets, the types of weapons used?

• 9:17Speaker 07

  I've heard I was characterized. Nobody was texting war plans, and that's all I have to say about that. Thank you. Appreciate it.

• 9:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, thoughts?

• 9:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I think, number one, it appears that everybody's pointing to Mike Waltz. And that Mike Waltz apparently sent a text out and it included a journalist. And the journalists are doing what they're doing. They don't go through back channels to say, hey, is this secret? Should we protect the United States? Should we protect what's going on? That's not what the journalist does. The journalist does, hey, let's attack the administration. And there is a newsworthy item. If somebody kind of blew it and included a journalist on here, that's not good. But let's face it, it was a Signal communication. It wasn't like 22 megabytes of, you know, documents, documents, documents, documents.

• 10:09Tom Ellsworth?

  And I guess, you know, the Houthis didn't get it in time to duck. Because the attack happened and by most accounts that we're hearing, it was fairly effective on its targets. But it is, you know, that's a careless thing. And I don't think there's a person out there that's not sent a business email where you go to type a name, an outlook, and it finishes the name for you.

• 10:34Patrick Bet-David?

  No one's ever done that here.

• 10:36Tom Ellsworth?

  No, never. And it's like the wrong Mike. Mike Jones, Mike Jeffries instead of Mike Jones.

• 10:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Mike Jones. Mike Jones with the Porsche, right? Isn't it Mike Jones?

• 10:47Tom Ellsworth?

  You know what I mean.

• 10:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Mike Lowry, I'm sorry.

• 10:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Exactly. A lot of pop culture references. I think that's... Mike Jones, I want to know you can't clone. That's kind of careless. But, you know, Mike Waltz is a good man. He's a strong guy. He's the right guy to have in the seat.

• 10:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Can I read you something that may upset you a little bit? Because this story, Daily Mail, says, "National Security Advisor Mike Waltz firing after inviting The Atlantic Editor-in-Chief Jeffrey Goldberg to a Signal chat." Okay? Houthis, PC, small group, discussing Yemen strikes with Defense Secretary Pete Hexett and J.D. Vance. A White House insider told Politico, "Everyone in the White House can agree on one thing. Mike Waltz is an effin' idiot." Okay? This is what Politico, this is the story.

• 11:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, this is also Daily Mail, and there's no name on that.

• 11:24Patrick Bet-David?

  I totally get it. So I'm just reading this to you on what's being said. "While a senior official said half of them, saying he's never going to survive or shouldn't, noting it was reckless not to check who was on the threat, it was reckless to having conversation on Signal," et cetera, et cetera. And then at the same time, there's another one from Daily Mail that comes out saying, "J.D. Vance says, 'Team, I'm out of the day doing economic events in Michigan, but I think we are making a terrible mistake. We're making a mistake to a Trump team, including National Security Advisor Mike Waltz.'" And then it continues, he warned, "There's real risk that the public doesn't understand this, or why it is necessary. I'm not sure the president is aware how inconsistent this is with the message on Europe right now, etc., etc. " Advance expresses reluctance but compliance saying, "I'm willing to support the consensus

• 12:09Patrick Bet-David?

  of the team and keep these concerns to myself, but there's strong argument for delaying this for a month, doing this messaging, work on why this matters, seeing where the economy is, etc., etc. " And then hex and urge action, replying, "We are prepared to execute and if I have a final go or no vote, I believe we should." Mike Walz noted, "Per the president's request, we are working with DOD and State of to determine how to compile the costs associated and levy them on Europeans." Alright, so that's what Daily Mail is saying, what happened here.

• 12:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Can I ask you a quick question?

• 12:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 12:39Tom Ellsworth?

  So if somebody on your staff was to say, "Hey, Pat, I'm not sure about this. I've got a little bit different point of view here, but whatever you decide, I'm with you."

• 12:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 12:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Do you want that or you want silence?

• 12:50Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I love that. That was a point. It's so funny you're saying this. You see, a businessman would think that way. I love that. I actually love the fact that there's an exchange. I love the fact there's like, "Hey, what do you think about this? What do you think about that?" It's very normal for us. Nothing about the threat I'm reading says to me that, this shows to me that they're willing to have discourse, debate, exchange.

• 13:09Speaker 05

  So maybe it was on purpose. Because think about it, devil's advocate, maybe it was on purpose. This is, it doesn't make sense. Why is Mike Walz-

• 13:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Doesn't sound like they work for a dictator.

• 13:17Speaker 05

  That's, yeah, we, but see, and that's what me and Jake were talking about. Maybe that was the whole ploy, is to have something like this leak. By the way, why is Mike Walz messaging anybody from the Atlantic? Why is he even in your, the Goldberg guy, why is he even in your chat? And why would you add him in there? There's no other Goldberg whatever that's in the White House that would be involved in this situation. Anyway, so maybe it was a way to show like, "Hey, listen, look what we're doing behind closed doors." Yeah, we messed up, and it could be, maybe they want to get, what's this guy's name, Tom? The Mike Walz?

• 13:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 13:49Speaker 05

  It looks to me, like if you wanted to fire somebody, guess what's a good way to get his ass fired? Have something like this happen and then leak it.

• 13:56Tom Ellsworth?

  It was the wrong guy to be aiming at. I think this guy's really capable. He was an early, you know, confirmation and he's really strong in position. Gorka's on his team. So, that's what I think there. The other thing is, it's not unusual. How many media people do you have your phone? I am having my phone.

• 14:12Speaker 05

  Yeah, true, but I mean, in a signal like this, though, this is serious.

• 14:16Tom Ellsworth?

  That's bad. Well, but there's also another angle to it. If I'm, if I'm a cabinet member, I only want to communicate with the media on a secure channel. I don't want to risk that it gets sniffed on a Gmail or anything like that.

• 14:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's see what our foreign affairs expert has to say. Adam, your thoughts on this?

• 14:33Adam Sosnick?

  Well, yeah, you know, I was actually also on the text chat and I saw this coming a mile away. So, you know, one of your major words that you're using these days is signal over noise, right? This happened on Signal ironically. To me, this is a lot of noise. The signal is, we know who the enemy is. We're going after the Houthis. He's part of the Iran.

• 14:56Tom Ellsworth?

  Proxies.

• 14:57Adam Sosnick?

  Proxies out there. And this was an accident by apparently a capable guy. And he screwed up. Let's, let's call a spade a spade here. If this were the Biden administration and they accidentally texted Fox News, you don't think the right would be having a field day with the morons in the DEI woke administration? You guys can't even do this. The reality is, what Trump said is correct. Well, we carried out the attack. We know who the enemy is. These Islamic extremists, Houthis, that are basically, there's been a war in Yemen for over a decade. Proxy war between Iran-backed Houthis and Saudi-backed Yemen government.

• 15:39Adam Sosnick?

  And we know who at least we're solving for. But you know what's funny? Another one of your words is, correct me if I'm wrong, is speed.

• 15:48Adam Sosnick?

  So you wrote in your book, here's a little.

• 15:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Preview.

• 15:54Adam Sosnick?

  Preview to the, if you're gonna buy your next five moves, you said, when you trust someone, you can go faster. Speed. So this is gonna be a roadblock in the administration. I don't think anybody should be fired over this. But when you go fast, things are going to break.

• 16:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep.

• 16:10Adam Sosnick?

  So this was a break in the administration. It's so funny, there's a comedian out there, this guy Ralph Barbosa. Have you seen this guy? Hilarious.

• 16:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Great basketball player for the Suns.

• 16:20Adam Sosnick?

  That's Leandro Barbosa, the Brazilian. So this guy's out there just killing it. This guy's killing it.

• 16:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, he's got the Yogi Berra sense of humor.

• 16:29Adam Sosnick?

  He's really funny. He goes, yo, you know, you know, typically Trump, he came in. And this guy is like doing like a hundred different things in like the first hundred days. It's crazy. You know, people say, you know, you got a list of things to do. You know, they don't actually do them. You know, you say you gotta go home, you gotta do laundry, you gotta do dishes. Well, you maybe you'll watch Netflix. He goes, Trump didn't and not watch Netflix or nothing. He just went, he just went for it. So Trump is just basically fulfilling so many things in his first hundred days. Things are going to break when you go that fast.

• 17:00Patrick Bet-David?

  So when it comes on to Atlantic, Rob, I got a couple of things I want people to know about the Atlantic. The owner of the Atlantic is Steve Jobs's widow. I think it's Laura Powell Jobs.

• 17:09Adam Sosnick?

  Wait, widow, widow, she's dead? No, he's dead, Vinny. Steve Jobs died.

• 17:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, my bad, my bad, my bad. I was like, my brain had a. So she buys the Atlantic, okay? And in an interview, she's being asked, and I'm gonna show you an article that the Atlantic wrote in a minute. But Rob, can you pull up the clip of what she said in an interview? Of why they bought it. This is Kamala Harris sitting next to her. And then watch when she gets asked about the New York Times at the end. Can you see when this was, Rob? Can you go back to the date? This is a while back. This is 2024. This is two weeks before election. This is when they're thinking Kamala's gonna win. Okay, most people haven't seen this, Rob. Go back and play this clip, please. So watch this, folks. This is the owner of the Atlantic. Go for it.

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• 18:36Speaker 12

  It was pretty obvious to me that we could build, you know, we build out in a very cross-disciplinary way our work, you know, capital investing and policy and philanthropy. And we could do this work forever and ever. And we could have the narrative overtaken by someone who has a lot of power, who's completely contrary to us. And we could never get to the place where we think we're part of a more just and equal society. And so it was obvious that if we could be part of

• 19:18Speaker 12

  the creation of cultural narrative, that would enhance and amplify all the work that we're doing. Which is Hillary Clinton talked about today is telling the story, getting the content out there. Yeah, she was, yes.

• 19:32Speaker 05

  Look at Kamala.

• 19:33Speaker 12

  So these are early days for us, but that's the idea behind it. We want to inspire the kind of stories that we'd like to see told. Do you ever see you buying something bigger, like the New York Times, for example?

• 19:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Are they for sale?

• 19:44Speaker 12

  Is it for sale? It could be for you.

• 19:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Bingo. So controlling the narrative. So now, let me show you one thing that's a little bit strange. Here's a story they wrote three years ago, four years ago. I think in 2021. Rob, if you want to pull up this picture, the one I sent you, you know which one I'm talking about. Did you get it or no?

• 20:01Speaker 09

  I only have the video.

• 20:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so when you see this, folks, you tell me what kind of narrative she wants to control, okay? Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it's just speculation. But this is what happens. This is a woman that gave away, pledged to give $3.5 billion to a combat climate change over the next decade. This is to Waverly Street Foundation. Okay, she's worth around $14 billion.

• 20:27Patrick Bet-David?

  She's giving away billions of dollars to different folks, okay? Different donations. But watch this one here. The Atlantic. Here's a story to the right. This is an article called "The Great Fake Child Sex Trafficking Epidemic." Rob, can you do me a favor? Exit that real quick and go search that title to make sure that is not... Because I did that this morning, just to make sure the great fake... Yeah, exactly. Child trafficking. Let's see what comes up, okay? So is there such a story? Bingo. Click on it. So they did write that, okay?

• 21:02Speaker 05

  Weird.

• 21:03Patrick Bet-David?

  So "The Great Fake Child Sex Trafficking Epidemic." All right. So that's from four years ago. And then go back to that picture. And who was she seen, sitting next to by?

• 21:13Speaker 05

  Oh, Ghislaine Maxwell.

• 21:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. Cozying up next to Ghislaine Maxwell.

• 21:17Speaker 05

  Sex trafficking.

• 21:18Patrick Bet-David?

  So look, the point is, you know, when you look at a paper and you wonder, are they really winning? Are they really advancing? Are they really pushing an agenda? Or are people really done with this? So this is the credibility of a paper like The Atlantic. But the narrative of being controlled is happening by buying magazines like this and getting everybody to realize this child sex trafficking stuff is just fake. That doesn't happen. We don't have hundreds of thousands of missing children every year. That movie Sound of Freedom was just a movie, Vinnie.

• 21:54Speaker 05

  That island with that Epstein eye.

• 21:56Patrick Bet-David?

  No.

• 21:56Speaker 05

  They just love giving massages.

• 21:58Patrick Bet-David?

  They play gin rami.

• 21:59Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 21:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 22:00Speaker 05

  It was a QAnon conspiracy thing. That didn't exist.

• 22:03Patrick Bet-David?

  But anyway, so they just gotta make sure they can't be... They gotta be a little bit more like, if that happened on our team, we would have a very serious meeting and it would be like, guys, you can only make this mistake one time. You can't do it a second time. You do it a second time, you're out. We can't do nothing about this here. You cannot be leaking information at this level to others and make sure when you're sending a group, my job is to check who else is in this group. Your job is to check who you're adding in the group.

• 22:27Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 22:28Patrick Bet-David?

  And make sure the names are the right names. So we're a little bit intentional about it.

• 22:30Speaker 05

  How many group texts?

• 22:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, you put me one in this week. This, like, we're trying to see who's in it. You know which one I'm talking about?

• 22:35Speaker 05

  Yeah, of course.

• 22:36Patrick Bet-David?

  WhatsApp, yeah.

• 22:37Speaker 05

  But you always have to give a... Title for the group.

• 22:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 22:40Speaker 05

  You ever send the wrong texts?

• 22:43Patrick Bet-David?

  This guy sends me the wrong pictures. I'm like, listen, stop texting me all these weird pictures with girl. Yeah, it's like, but anyways, let's.

• 22:50Speaker 05

  I'm dating a girl named Patricia.

• 22:52Tom Ellsworth?

  You gotta get your grip straight. You gotta be careful. This guy, you know, my friends, Miami's herpes cure, you know, all the grips that you got on there.

• 22:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Alright, let me go to the next story. Okay, Trump tariff response. Rolls Royce planning to shift production to US to avoid Trump tariffs report. Okay, so let's see what's going on here. Guys, I got, I got three handful of charts I want to show you with this. That is, oh, let me tell you, these charts that Brandon found, I have to show you this, and credit goes to him finding these charts, but they're insane. Alright, let's read this. British engineering firm Rolls Royce is planning to boost US production to dodge President Donald Trump's tariffs. Per London's Daily Telegraph, a source told the paper, if you're, if you are making something in countries like China, then you'll be looking at whether you can do it in the US instead.

• 23:40Patrick Bet-David?

  The company known for aerospace and defense may shift from China, Canada, Mexico, where it employs around 6,000 workers, and even from the UK and Europe if tariffs hit. A Rolls Royce spokesperson said, "We have additional capacity with some of our US operations and continuously seek to explore options to ensure that our global internal supply chain is optimized for delivery to customers in the US. The US is vital for Rolls Royce, making up a third of its global sales with key clients like US Department of Defense, Boeing, Lockheed Martin. Last year it earned, you know, $7 billion in North America versus $3.36 billion in UK and $8.4 billion in Europe. You gotta realize, most people, when we think about Rolls Royce, what do we think about? Cars.

• 24:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Of course.

• 24:23Patrick Bet-David?

  But that's what they're famous for making.

• 24:25Speaker 05

  Oh wow, that's the number one thing?

• 24:26Patrick Bet-David?

  The, the engines they make on planes, they'll say, "We have a Rolls Royce engine on a plane." Yes, but we think about the cars.

• 24:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Engines for warplanes. These aren't just engines.

• 24:35Patrick Bet-David?

  There's a couple other stories, but I'll just turn it over to you. Tom, your thoughts on this here?

• 24:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, first of all, this is a sign that the tariffs are working.

• 24:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Bingo.

• 24:43Tom Ellsworth?

  So we're trying to get it balanced. And Rolls Royce says, "I'll tell you what, I ship a lot of engines to the Department of Defense, and they ship key clients like Boeing and Lockheed. Oh, those are engines going to our defense contractors." And Lockheed Martin, don't, don't forget Martin. And so.

• 25:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Tariffs are working and what's also interesting related to this is if you take a look, there's also a Wall Street Journal report. Now, this is, this was Breitbart and then there was an FT story, then there was a Wall Street Journal story. So, everybody's saying the same things and no one wants to say the simple headline tariffs are working. Now, Wall Street Journal being very negative, "The biggest auto losers in Trump's trade wars so far, luxury brands." And they go on to say that the BMW 3 Series, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And they put all these stats out of poor BMW, poor BMW, and then all, all Audi's Q5 SUV, poor Audi, poor Audi. Wait a minute. What German carmaker is left out of that list? We got BMW, we got Audi, where's Mercedes? I'll tell you

• 25:44Tom Ellsworth?

  where Mercedes is. You know where Mercedes is? They're in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, where they invested in the US years ago and they build the GLA, the GLS, GLA, and all of their electric vehicles, the EQS and EQE. It's their number one factory in the world outside of the core factory they have in Germany. And 60% of what they make in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, is exported around the world with 16,000 American jobs. So, guess what? The tariffs are working. And somebody like Mercedes is like, "Well, I've been here forever. This really doesn't bother me because I've been employing American workers and I'm exporting

• 26:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Mercedes around the world." And so, what Rolls Royce is doing is, is great and that's the proper response is say, "Look, our customers over in the US, why don't we make our stuff there?" And everything else, the tariffs are working and look at the jobs that are coming and look at how the products are reacting. And by the way, guess what? If that BMW 3 Series is $10,000 more expensive.

• 26:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Guess what? Mercedes is happy to sell you a C.

• 26:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, wow.

• 26:56Speaker 05

  And just, just because he mentioned Boeing package, then obviously you guys, you have, you have your thoughts. Trump just awarded Boeing, because you talked about it, uh, to develop US Air Force's next generation fighter jet, the F-47, which will replace the F-22 Raptor. The deal is $20 billion. It just happened.

• 27:11Tom Ellsworth?

  That plane is a beast.

• 27:12Speaker 05

  That thing is ridiculous. Look at that thing. Damn.

• 27:15Tom Ellsworth?

  It will own the skies.

• 27:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so let me show you something here, which is something for everybody to think about when it comes down to this. Rob, I'm gonna text this to you if you can, please pull up this file. Oh, you have it already? Yes. Okay, can you go all the way to the top? Go all the way to the top, the main chart. So, check this out. This is China's, oh, close it up, Rob. Don't show the bottom one, just show the top one. Yeah, that one right there. Watch this. This is manufacturing, global manufacturing 2000. Look where we were at. 25% of global manufacturing came through us. Look who was second. You got the bottom left, MVA 21%. Then you have UMC, is that UMC or UMIC? Okay? Then you got, uh, Japan 11%, Germany 8%. And then you have China at what percent?

• 28:01Patrick Bet-David?

  6%. Yeah. What happens in 2001? China gets welcomed to join the World Trade Organization, okay? And that's December 11th of 01. So, here we go. Manufacturing, now we're gonna go to China. No problem. Go to the next chart, Rob. Then look what happens 2030. 45% of manufacturing goes to them. Look where we are. 11%. Can you go back up and see where we were and they were? We were at 25%. This is jobs in the US. China was 6%. China goes to 45%. We dropped to 11%. 11% is where it goes to. Now, this is what's very important about this. By the way, Japan drops to 5%.

• 28:46Patrick Bet-David?

  I think that we're at 11% if you go a little bit higher. Yeah, Japan was at 11%. They dropped to 5%. China takes everyone's lunch. Can you go back to the top? So, here's what they did. Germany will have to. They took us, they took Japan, they took every Germany, they took every, they're at 45%. Five percent out, who, who paid a price for this? Go a little bit lower by states, Michigan. Go, go a little bit lower, Rob, watch this. This is Michigan. Look at 2001, when we joined the World Trade Organization. What happens to manufacturing jobs in Michigan? Boom, drops. How bad? Not a slide drop. Look where it was at in the thousands on the left, 80,000 persons on the left. It drops to what? Less than 20,000, just seven years later. When you see that 2008, 2009. Go to the next state.

• 29:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Go to the next state. Ohio, look at 2001, drops. Go to the next state, Rob. You got Pennsylvania, steel, 2001, look where they're at. Look at the immediate drop off of what they have where they're at today. Go to the next state. These are all jobs that US, Indiana. Look at how steep this one is. Indiana loses their job, boom, crashes all the way down. Go to the next one, Rob. Illinois, here's Illinois for you from 2001, drops. Clinton started this initiative early on, and then it took him 10 or 15 years to finally get it finalized. 10 years to get it finalized, I want to say something like that, 8 years to get it finalized. You got Carolina, go to the next one, Carolina, look at this one here. Keep going next, Rob, go to the next one. South Carolina, look at this one. How obvious and evident is it? And I'll tell you why. Go to Wisconsin.

• 30:16Patrick Bet-David?

  These are all people that had jobs. Go to New York, these are all people that had jobs. California. Do you know what happened when that took place? Look at California's, by the way, Vinny. Look at California's drop. When we allowed China to join the World Trade Organization. So now the question becomes what? The question is what? Why did this happen? You know why? You know what labor was in China at that time? Per hour? Do you know what it was? Nothing. 50 cents per hour. Slave labor. Of course. 50 cents per hour. So allowing China to join the World Trade Organization, who did it help? China. No. Of course China, but who else did it help? It also helped us because we get way cheaper goods. Who did it help in America, though? Walmart.

• 31:00Patrick Bet-David?

  It helped the rich. Because the rich got richer. It allowed the rich to say, why am I hiring people in America? Let me send these jobs off to what?

• 31:10Adam Sosnick?

  Overseas.

• 31:11Patrick Bet-David?

  To China, overseas, somewhere else fifty cents. And do you know for the first time in the last two years? A, a, a minimum wage for low wage employees is now lower in Mexico than it was in China by fifty cents. By fifty cents is lower. So that's why China is building their car manufacturing in, uh, Mexico called the Hafusan, right? But if you look at China, they're paying fifty cents per labor. Rich gets richer, poor gets poorer. These jobs leave America and you know what these tariffs are now doing? You know what these tariffs are now doing? These tariffs are now forcing people to bring those jobs back to America.

• 31:44Adam Sosnick?

  Good.

• 31:44Patrick Bet-David?

  One by one by one. We made China a behemoth. Allowing them to join the World Trade Organization. Knowing companies were hiring slave labor for fifty, seventy cents an hour while those jobs are ten, fifteen, twenty bucks an hour in America. That's how all these jobs were lost. So for the people that are bitching and whining about tariffs, be patient. You want those jobs coming back. The rich got richer, trust me. I, I'm a beneficiary of it. The rich got richer in a very big way. What happened to our middle class since two thousand and one? Well, what was the average median income in two thousand and one? How different is it compared to today? Can you go and look it up, Rob? Median income in two thousand and one? What was the median income in two thousand and one?

• 32:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Median income two thousand and one? Forty-two thousand. Go look at what it is today. So that's forty-two thousand twenty-four years ago. Just put twenty twenty-five.

• 32:39Patrick Bet-David?

  What is it now?

• 32:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Twenty-five years later, it's not even doubled. It's gone up eighty percent. Okay. Go, go to twenty twenty-one and type in, who was the richest man in twenty twenty-one, two thousand and one? Who was the richest man in twenty-two, two thousand and one? What was it? How much billion?

• 32:56Adam Sosnick?

  Bill Gates.

• 32:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Fifty-eight billion?

• 32:57Adam Sosnick?

  Wow.

• 32:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Who's the richest man today, Rob?

• 33:00Adam Sosnick?

  Still Elon, unless, uh...

• 33:01Patrick Bet-David?

  What is the number?

• 33:01Adam Sosnick?

  I'd say Saudi Arabia. Tesla's that.

• 33:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Three hundred and forty, three hundred and fifty billion dollars. So the wealth... Seven X, but the median income only went up 80%. Why? It's cheaper labor in China.

• 33:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, it's basic mathematics. So this whole conversation with terrorists, when people start panicking and trying to use fear porn and all this other stuff, and then you bring it down and you realize what he's doing is causing companies to say, I'm gonna bring those jobs to America like this UAE saying 1.4 trillion auto investment in the States. Like, you know, you're hearing Saudi 600 billion dollars. Like soft, like Hyundai, like Rolls Royce, like all these guys saying, we're gonna bring it here. They're helping Americans and every American should be happy about it. That includes Democrats, but unfortunately, they want to see a failed administration and it's just working.

• 33:56Speaker 05

  No wonder, no wonder why, I mean, like, when you break it down like this, like this much detail, no wonder why China hates and hated Trump so much that in 2020, I believe that they unleashed COVID because they wanted to keep that guy out of the office because he's doing exactly what the hell you're talking about right now, putting America first. That's it. That's like, like, it's, by the way, and they're so powerful, besides building, buying up all the land near our military bases and flying balloons everywhere, you still can't say definitively, China released COVID. You still can't say it.

• 34:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Don't say it.

• 34:32Speaker 05

  Yeah, no, it's unbelievable.

• 34:33Patrick Bet-David?

  It was a bad, it was a bad.

• 34:34Speaker 05

  But think about it, when it comes to that, yeah. When it comes to that, when it comes to this serious amount of money and power, now it makes complete, complete sense, Tom, don't you think?

• 34:43Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, it's really interesting to me and on all this, I'm not ready to go there and say that China, that China intentionally released the virus and it wasn't just like a boondoggle and then denied and everything. I'm not quite there that it was intentional trying to unseat Trump. But I'll tell you what's very interesting. Hyundai, and you saw it yesterday, announced as part of this. He said, "We had a conversation that started in 2019 with Trump."

• 35:11Tom Ellsworth?

  And we wanted to bring a steel plant to Louisiana and then use the steel there to make cars and put some Hyundai auto factories here in 2019. It didn't happen and it's 2025. Chairman Yisong Chung has come back to President Trump. So what happened between 2019 and 2025?

• 35:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Covid.

• 35:36Tom Ellsworth?

  No, think about also who is president?

• 35:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Right.

• 35:39Tom Ellsworth?

  There was a deal on the table from Hyundai that says, I'll make jobs for you and I'll put a steel factory there and I'll use the steel to make my cars.

• 35:48Speaker 09

  This is CNBC this morning, 3:04 a.m. They reported on the Hyundai deal, the $20 billion investment into the United States.

• 35:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 35:57Speaker 13

  South Korean auto giant Hyundai will announce a $20 billion investment in the United States when its chairman visits the White House today. Sources say that that pledge includes $5 billion set for a steel plant in Louisiana with plans to hire 1,500 employees and produce next generation steel for Hyundai and Kia cars. That move comes after similar investment commitments from SoftBank and chipmaker Taiwan semiconductor earlier this year.

• 36:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you hear what Ronald Reagan said about tariffs years ago? Have you seen that clip?

• 36:26Tom Ellsworth?

  No.

• 36:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Have you seen the Ronald Reagan clip on tariffs?

• 36:28Tom Ellsworth?

  What did he say?

• 36:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, if you can find this, there's a clip of Ronald Reagan on tariffs. And let me see where this is. Humberto, guys in the back, if you know, I just watched his video yesterday. That's not the one. There's, let me see. Anyways, they'll send it to you. Let me see how it explains it. No, it's a different one that he has. But look, here's the reality of it. If the jobs are being forced to come back to the states, their jobs are being forced to come back to the states and Americans should want that. And America helped China become a behemoth after the deal and the data now proves it. And those jobs were taken from many states that a lot of people relied on and that destroyed a lot of people's lives.

• 37:12Patrick Bet-David?

  It just did. Made the rich richer, but it hurt a lot of people's lives. Adam, go for it.

• 37:17Tom Ellsworth?

  I think Trump is doing what he should be doing. I also am adamant that I think he needs to do a better job marketing.

• 37:25Adam Sosnick?

  What he's doing because people are very confused. Markets have been confused, you know, with the one word we hear coming out of, you know, Wall Street and the big banks as clarity. Let's just get clear on this. There's a lot of confusion in the marketplace. So he's very good at marketing. He's very good at slogans. Lock her up, drain the swamp, build the wall. Come up with a slogan to summarize why you're doing this. Because you know, there's a term called inside baseball. You ever heard that term?

• 37:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Of course.

• 37:58Adam Sosnick?

  Pat, you know, you might've, you know, been familiar with a thing or two since you're part of the Yankees. Inside baseball is like, dude, you're being a little too technical. Tom, you might've heard this before. So some people need sort of a bigger, grandiose, sort of easier to digest, simple, effective slogan. So like, here's a couple of suggestions for Trump to maybe roll out what you're doing with tariffs. Let me know what you guys think. You ready? So make America great again, right? So here we go. Fair trade now. Not bad. Could be a thing. Stop trade cheaters. Came up with that three words. Here we go.

• 38:36Patrick Bet-David?

  This is actually serious.

• 38:37Adam Sosnick?

  Boost American businesses. All right. Makes sense. Strength through trade. Shout out to Ronald Reagan right here.

• 38:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Ronnie.

• 38:47Adam Sosnick?

  You know, peace through strength. Balanced trade deficits. I don't know, guys. Give your suggestions, but Trump needs to do a better job marketing and have a better slogan.

• 38:57Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know if you're getting a job anytime soon. I don't think, I don't think Trump.

• 39:00Adam Sosnick?

  Listen.

• 39:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Maybe you're gonna be the marketing guy.

• 39:01Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't think so, but I, there have been, you know, you read the headlines from Wall Street and you get one story and they like to spin it. We've been talking about that. But below the headlines, you find out, guess what? The markets are nervous during, during the reaction phase, but things are happening for the good. That's the message. The markets are nervous and they're bouncing around because they're on sentiment. Oh, is tomorrow going to rain or not going to rain? I don't know. And so the markets bounce up and down because what's happening on the markets? Traders, speculators, and they're all trying to make a buck. And they think what they so when they hear comments that they don't know how to process, they push markets into motion by making big trades,

• 39:43Tom Ellsworth?

  puts, and that's what's going on. But you just hang tight because thing, good things are happening. And you every day, you can take a look at the people that are reacting to the tariffs and they're doing the things that exactly what is good long term.

• 40:00Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, let's go to the next story here. RFK calls to ban one of Big Pharma's most powerful tool, rattle drug makers despite uncertain political prospects. By the way, if they pull this off, we had this conversation, I had a conversation with him on this and I had the conversation with Vivek on this. So Bobby Kennedy, nominated by Trump as DHS, HHS, has alarmed drug makers with his push to ban direct to consumer pharmaceutical advertising, saying on October 31st in Glendale, Arizona, "One of the things I'm going to advise Trump to do in order to correct the chronic disease epidemic is to ban pharmaceutical advertising on TV." Noted, "There's only two countries in the world, us and New Zealand, and we have the highest disease rate and we buy more drugs and they're more expensive than

• 40:42Patrick Bet-David?

  anywhere in the world." If confirmed, Kennedy could influence the FDA and HHS, which regulate the ads. Kennedy stands back by allies like Elon Musk, who wrote on X on November 19th on advertising of pharma, and Dr. Bacharia, Trump's pick for National Institutes of Health, who said on X, "May 30th, 2023, because of the TCA, drug companies like Pfizer hold a grip, vice grip on the editorial policies and for conventional American media, suggest media buys from ad revenue." Adam.

• 41:14Tom Ellsworth?

  PBD, I gotta give credit to where credit's due. You called this.

• 41:20Adam Sosnick?

  A long time ago. So I, you know, in that same podcast, correct me if I'm wrong. We were in Boca. It was 2021. We were in the studio. It was our friend Zubie was in the house. We were talking about Saudi. We're talking about the difference in New York City and Saudi. And in that exact same conversation, shout out to you Zubie, we talked about what countries allow advertising on TV. Very obscure stat. Why would you even know this? Advertising for Big Pharma. It was New Zealand. Shout out to our friend Chad. And number two, United States of America. And then you went in on this, talking about Big Pharma. And you basically said, there's three things that are keeping the mainstream lame stream media alive still. And number one is live sports.

• 42:04Adam Sosnick?

  Number two is literally boomers and senior citizens still watching the mainstream media news. And then number three, which you're very much talking against is Big Pharma. And then what percentage of their ad revenue comes from Big Pharma? I want to say like 75%? Something like that?

• 42:19Speaker 09

  It's a big percentage.

• 42:20Adam Sosnick?

  It's a big number. And here's Bobby Kennedy coming in, shutting it down.

• 42:25Speaker 09

  Rob, what clip was that you had? Uh, there's a few. I found the original clip. This is where RFK made the announcement back in October. Um, and then there's also the clip of you that's going viral, uh, talking about.

• 42:38Adam Sosnick?

  There you go. So I'm talking about PBD. It was a while ago. George Janko.

• 42:42Speaker 09

  From the cigar lounge. Go for it.

• 42:44Patrick Bet-David?

  So you know who the third one is that's keeping cable in business?

• 42:47Adam Sosnick?

  Pharma.

• 42:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Pharma. Do you know what percentage of every dollar, uh, on sponsorship and ads? Cable TV gets from Pharma? What percentage is from Pharma? Percentage for every dollar? Percentage? So think about movie commercials, you know, car commercials, clothing commercials. All these different companies that do commercials, so many industries.

• 43:07Speaker 09

  Something ridiculous like 70%.

• 43:09Patrick Bet-David?

  It's 75%.

• 43:10Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, ding ding ding.

• 43:12Patrick Bet-David?

  75%. So check this out. Watch how crazy this is. Watch how crazy this is. Okay.

• 43:18Speaker 14

  How is that even legal to do that?

• 43:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you, while I'm doing this, just on your phone, Google what percentage of Pharma cable advertisement? It's going to come up saying 75%. Now watch this. 75%, right? Stay with me here. So now we have to answer the question, is it moral to advertise getting more people taking drugs? Okay. What's wrong with that? It's their choice. They gotta do it. No problem. So then why is it out of nearly 200 countries in the world? Only two of them allow pharmaceutical companies to advertise on TV.

• 43:51Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, you can.

• 43:51Patrick Bet-David?

  And the other one, they don't.

• 43:52Adam Sosnick?

  Weird. Good looking, smart guy right there, Pat. I don't know.

• 43:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, let me tell you.

• 43:56Adam Sosnick?

  By the way, is that Janko's girl? Yeah, wife. Good for him, buddy.

• 43:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you, let me tell you something about what this means. So, let's process this. Imagine your CNN. Imagine your Fox. Now, imagine your MSNBC. Imagine your CBS. Every one of these guys is taking money from pharma, just so you know that. Every one of them. Seventy-five years old, you know, back problems, knee problems, hip problems, all this, whatever it is, they're taking the money, right? If that number is seventy-five percent, Vinny.

• 44:27Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 44:27Patrick Bet-David?

  If a talent at MSNBC or CNN is making six million. Seventy-five percent of revenue goes away. What is a seventy-five percent reduction to a six million dollar salary? What do you go to?

• 44:38Adam Sosnick?

  Four off?

• 44:39Patrick Bet-David?

  You're now officially at one and a half million dollars.

• 44:41Adam Sosnick?

  Jeez.

• 44:41Patrick Bet-David?

  So if you're paying somebody six million at CNN, now it's one and a half million. Do you know how different life is at six million versus one and a half? It's a very different life. Living in New York, half of it is gone already for taxes.

• 44:52Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 44:53Patrick Bet-David?

  You gotta give ten percent of it to your manager that negotiated that deal. Okay, so, one and a half million, one fifty goes to him. So then you're left with whatever, and then you're left with six. Now you're no longer in New York able to live on Long Island or whatever that you had. Lifestyle changes very quickly. If he approves this, if he approves this, half of mainstream media companies are for sale.

• 45:14Adam Sosnick?

  Wow.

• 45:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Half of them are for sale. And that aggregator is gonna come in and pick them up? And create a holding company, whatever you wanna call it, a roll-up where all these companies are gonna be together? That'll what, that's what'll happen because if they don't know how to make money, not taking money from... You know what it's like? It's like in sales. When Tom and I one time were in a Vistage meeting, this, we're talking fifteen years ago, sixteen years ago. One of the guys in a Vistage meeting, I won't say his name, but it was a Middle Eastern guy, I think you helped him out for about a year and a half as well. In a meeting, he says, "My revenue was ten million dollars." Great. And, and then he says, uh, what's your, a guy named John asks, "What's your biggest revenue, uh, is it from one client?" He says, "Yeah, one of my clients brings seven million dollars of that ten million."

• 46:00Patrick Bet-David?

  John says, "What are you gonna do if you lose that one client?"

• 46:04Patrick Bet-David?

  And you see the guy's look on his face. He's a little bit like, why did you ask me a question like that? It's a tough question to ask. You know what happens?

• 46:12Speaker 05

  They lose a guy.

• 46:13Patrick Bet-David?

  What happens if you lose that guy?

• 46:15Speaker 05

  It's your friendito.

• 46:16Patrick Bet-David?

  You go from 10 million to what now? 3 million.

• 46:18Speaker 05

  3 million.

• 46:19Patrick Bet-David?

  So there's a big business there. Big difference in that business there. If Big Pharma is out.

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• 47:09Speaker 05

  Rachel Maddow loses money?

• 47:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, Rachel Maddow is holding MSNBC, in my opinion, hostage because she's got something on them. I don't know what it is. But if that happens, it's disruption at the highest level. Tom, your thoughts?

• 47:22Tom Ellsworth?

  All the small channels. So what do we know about CNN and MSNBC today? They're barely hanging on. They're not getting viewership. And what do we also know is happening with over the top and cable rates? They're losing cable rates. They're losing money from, not losing money, but the money they used to get from DirecTV is going down. The money they used to get from the cable side is going down because the subscribers are going down. If now, they're already today with the viewership going down, they can't charge as much for ads from pharmaceutical companies among them.

• 47:57Adam Sosnick?

  And they're already out there trimming, I mean CNN went and cut everybody. Everybody was cut 50% at least, except Anderson Cooper. Um, and there you go. The small, like MSNBC, I don't think it's a viable channel anymore. I think it's gone. I don't think it's for sale. I think that it's just gone. There's nothing to do there. They say, well, look, now the, now we got viewership here. We can only get this much ad dollars. So we have to cancel these contracts. What do you have left? What do you have left? You don't have a viable business left. And that's it.

• 48:34Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what's screwing things up? Yesterday, we were at the cigar lounge last night. Guess what you turn on to watch cable nowadays? You'll turn on Hulu.

• 48:41Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 48:42Patrick Bet-David?

  You'll turn on YouTube. You'll turn on, it's a very.

• 48:45Adam Sosnick?

  X, I'll go to X and watch something.

• 48:46Patrick Bet-David?

  But it's a very, very different world we're living in. But an aggregator is going to buy up a lot of them. They're already talking about them. But they're going to buy up a lot of them. You had a couple of your friends that came here that are aggregators. There's, they're gonna be picking people up, left and right, and then building a super, uh, media company.

• 49:06Adam Sosnick?

  Can, can I get maybe a different perspective? So, you know, anytime that something, there's a massive change in the market, we think like, oh my God, certain industry is dead. Oh my God, they're never gonna recover. You know, we, we've heard this with AI and so I'm just thinking, you know, if a, a big percentage of pharma goes bye-bye, meaning they can't advertise on TV, they're gonna go someplace else. Where are they gonna advertise? Maybe they're going radio, maybe they're going to the internet, maybe they're going print, like they have a ton of ad dollars to spend on marketing. So I don't think that pharmaceuticals are gonna necessarily just dissipate and fold. So what is mainstream media? What is the cable gonna do? They're gonna go to whoever number two, number three, number four advertisers are, uh, and say, hey, look, uh, we got good deal for you.

• 49:51Adam Sosnick?

  We got good deal for you. And they're gonna cut a deal with some of these, whether it's auto, uh, industry type, uh, sector, whether it's, um, any senior product that's out there. Uh, diapers, who knows? But I, I think they're gonna, as much as we're sort of rooting for the, the, the death nail in the mainstream media, whether it's Fox, whether it's CNN, whether it's MSNBC, they're gonna take alternative measures to sort of.

• 50:21Adam Sosnick?

  Bring in advertisers to still advertise on TV. They're not just gonna fold. They're gonna fight.

• 50:27Speaker 05

  You think, so you think MSNBC and CNN, all these people are gonna, I don't think.

• 50:30Adam Sosnick?

  We're gonna see, they're not just gonna go out without a fight. No, they're gonna go to the rest of their advertisers. And say, like, who are the biggest advertisers on mainstream media? Pharmaceuticals, automotive, cars, retail, um, consumer packaging, apparently, insurance, technology. So you're gonna see other, here you go, you're progressive, Carvana, T-Mobile.

• 50:52Speaker 15

  That's old though, it's 2020.

• 50:53Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah. Alright, but the point is, all these companies are gonna have more opportunities because Rob, you know this because you worked in radio.

• 50:59Patrick Bet-David?

  It's only gonna be one thing.

• 51:01Adam Sosnick?

  There's only gonna be what?

• 51:02Patrick Bet-David?

  It's only gonna be one, one shift. Look, newspapers. Okay, what happened to newspapers? The physical newspaper.

• 51:10Adam Sosnick?

  They went online, they went digital.

• 51:12Patrick Bet-David?

  If, if CNN, MSNBC, these guys don't know how to go digital, it's over. It, it's over. They're gonna be discounted. They're gonna have to find, like Joy Reid right now, she's doing a what? She's doing a podcast. She does stuff with Don Lemon. You think they're getting paid the same kind of money as they did before?

• 51:30Adam Sosnick?

  Nowhere near.

• 51:31Patrick Bet-David?

  They better be.

• 51:32Adam Sosnick?

  Joy Reid is now working with Don Lemon?

• 51:33Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, they're, they did a podcast together, which, which, which was underwhelming, but they did a podcast together. What's the point though? They have to find a way to make money. You think she's gonna be able to financially make the same amount of money doing her, you know, podcast stuff personally?

• 51:47Adam Sosnick?

  Nowhere near, it's just to build it. Nobody wants to hear her.

• 51:49Patrick Bet-David?

  And the market is gonna filter out a lot of people.

• 51:54Adam Sosnick?

  For sure.

• 51:54Patrick Bet-David?

  It's gonna do a lot of people. Alright, let's go to the next one here. A US gold card scheme a hit. Trump's top official, uh, says, I think it's Lutnik, says 1,000 sold in a day. And that was a $5 million gold card, guys. Watch this here. Go for it, Rob.

• 52:10Speaker 15

  Speaking of potentially great ideas, can you tell us about the Trump card?

• 52:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Sure. So.

• 52:16Speaker 15

  Whose idea was that? And how did that come about?

• 52:18Patrick Bet-David?

  John Paulson.

• 52:21Speaker 03

  I had a call with Donald Trump. I was talking to Donald Trump. I was kicking around the idea of we should sell. Right? Why do we give away visas? We should sell them. And they're talking about it. Uh, Donald Trump calls me, gets me on the phone. Right? We all talk about it. Right? And then we go from there. And then my job is to figure out, like I always figure out, how to do it. What's the path?

• 52:46Speaker 15

  Do you have a path?

• 52:47Speaker 03

  Of course. About two weeks from today, it goes out. Okay, Elon's building me the software right now.

• 52:55Speaker 15

  Yeah.

• 52:56Speaker 03

  Right? And then out it goes. And by the way, uh, yesterday I sold a thousand.

• 53:01Speaker 16

  Oh, you did? I got a poly market I created on how many of you guys are gonna sell this year.

• 53:05Speaker 03

  Cool.

• 53:06Speaker 16

  Yeah, curious to see how many.

• 53:07Speaker 15

  That's fantastic.

• 53:09Patrick Bet-David?

  A thousand at five thousand. Uh, no, a thousand at five million. That's five billion dollars. Jeez. In one day. Tom, thoughts?

• 53:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I think, um, that everybody's saying, oh, you know, you're, you're, you're just, you're, you're out there just selling out the USA. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Let's go back to the facts. There are a ton of countries that have been selling you a second citizenship for money. It's been going on forever.

• 53:39Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right.

• 53:39Tom Ellsworth?

  And you can go get it. You can get a second citizenship for Belize, for Costa Rica, and for a lot of weird, small countries all around the globe, and it costs you money. And then Trump says, wait a minute. You know what Trump thinks of the United States?

• 53:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Hmm.

• 53:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Park Place. We are Boardwalk and Park Place. So why don't we make a gold visa and charge five million dollars for it? And see how many people in the rest of the world wanna come here? And by the way, and before they even come here, they give $5 million to our government.

• 54:16Speaker 05

  I love it.

• 54:16Tom Ellsworth?

  By the way, do you know how long it would take to, at the long-term capital gains rate? You know, they would have to earn as citizens to get $5 billion to the IRS.

• 54:26Speaker 05

  How much?

• 54:26Tom Ellsworth?

  It's 20% capital gains. They'd have to make $100 million so they could come back.

• 54:33Speaker 05

  Jeez.

• 54:34Tom Ellsworth?

  You see that?

• 54:34Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 54:35Tom Ellsworth?

  There you go. And so I think this is, I think this is great. And you're, as long as you're doing background checks and double checking that who is actually buying this, you're letting people buy it here the same way people have been buying around the world.

• 54:48Speaker 05

  Was there a limit, is there, is there a limit of how much they're saying that they're gonna sell? I mean, they can't just say it's open for everybody.

• 54:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, I mean, even if you sell 100,000, 100,000 is not a lot. 100,000 at 5 billion.

• 55:00Speaker 05

  Is what?

• 55:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, I think it's half, half a trillion dollars. So if, if 1,000 is 5 billion, 10,000 is 50 billion, 100,000 is 500, they would have to sell a million at 5 million to get 5 trillion, which they're not gonna get 2 million. But if they get 2, even this, this basic membership of a down, obviously the background check stuff you gotta go through. Our cigar lounge, couple of things about the cigar lounge. Guess what? Everybody goes through a background check and nobody can take their cell phones inside.

• 55:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Wow.

• 55:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Everybody. So if you go there and you see another person who's a member, background check, no cell phones. No one's going in our cigar lounge and going like this.

• 55:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 55:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Hey, you know.

• 55:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Good.

• 55:40Patrick Bet-David?

  No one's doing that. You can't do that. There is no, uh, uh, none of that. Borderlands cigar lounge. Yeah, I mean, right, everybody applies, they submit the application, somebody calls them, they do an interview, they do the background check, then they send the payment. And, uh, but yeah, I, I'm assuming they're gonna do the same thing with the 5 million. Adam, do you have any thoughts on this?

• 55:55Tom Ellsworth?

  How many people do you think around the world can afford $5 million? And what, what, what kind of net worth do you need to have in order to pay $5 million?

• 56:04Speaker 05

  Well, 1,000 and counting.

• 56:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Right? But, no, I got that part. But I wanna know, like, how many do you think? Like, what does your net worth need to be to say?

• 56:12Adam Sosnick?

  Alright, here's 5 million. Like, it's not gonna be 6 million.

• 56:15Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no.

• 56:15Adam Sosnick?

  Like, is it 10 million?

• 56:17Patrick Bet-David?

  I think it's 100 million.

• 56:18Adam Sosnick?

  So, 100 million dollars?

• 56:19Patrick Bet-David?

  I think if you're 50 million of liquid cash or investable cash that you have, if you put 10% of it, and you know the country's gonna be growing, maybe 50 million plus?

• 56:28Adam Sosnick?

  So, where do you think, like, I have, I actually think this is a good idea, but I don't stop at, "Hey, great idea, go get 'em." It's like, alright, what countries are they coming from? What's the vetting process? You know, I'd be very curious, are they coming from China, are they coming from Saudi Arabia, are they coming from Venezuela? Like, where are they coming from? And are these people, um, like, if you have 100 million dollars, you know what you got? You got options. You could go to Saint-Tropez, you can go to, you know, Dubai, you can go anywhere you want in the world and buy citizenship. So, I'm wondering why the US, do they really need this? It's interesting that they're doing this, I think it's a great revenue generator. You know, if you kinda just like juxtapose what Trump said in his first political speech

• 57:13Adam Sosnick?

  when he came down that escalator with Melania, and he says, "Mexico, they're not sending their best. They're drug dealers, they're rapists, and I guess some are very fine people." But now, look who's coming through this country, like, the, coming through the border, not exactly the greatest people in the world. Uh, what's the group from Venezuela that he's all going against?

• 57:34Speaker 05

  Tre de Agua.

• 57:34Adam Sosnick?

  Tre de Agua. And now, he's basically bringing in the, arguably, the best, the brightest, the richest around the world. I think it's a great idea, I just wanna understand who these people are, because, think about it, if you're China, you're like, yo, here's a couple billion bucks, go ahead, go buy US citizenship, wink, wink, and then go get to work for us. There needs to be a strict vetting process.

• 57:57Speaker 05

  Oh yeah, I mean, the, I think the background check is absolutely, it's amazing. But, and by the way, the border, nobody's coming to the border right now. That shit is shut down, period.

• 58:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Tom? To, to Adam's question there, World Census data says there are approximately 3 million people in the world with a 50 million dollar net worth. 50. That's a big number.

• 58:19Speaker 05

  It's a lot.

• 58:20Patrick Bet-David?

  3 million with 50, and they only got 1,000 of them so far. So, that means there's plenty of market left for it. And what did he put it at? The EB5 program is capped at 10,000 per year, with 3,000 reserved for investment in high unemployment areas. Okay, there you go, let's see what happens with it. Alright, let's go to the next story here.

• 58:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Trump demands full-throated apology from Maine governor on trans sports flap to settle funding dispute even as universities back down. I don't know if you remember this clip or not, right? There was a clip where he's asking the Maine governor, and she says, "This is not going to fare well for you." Rob, I don't know if you remember this one here. He was giving a speech. That's right, and she was to his right.

• 59:03Adam Sosnick?

  He's like, "You better get a new job because you're not going to get reelected." Something like that, right?

• 59:09Patrick Bet-David?

  It was in a different room. It could have been this one, Rob, where he looks to his right. Is this the one? And they talked about suing each other, and he says, "This is about men and women's sports." Is that what it was? Yeah, let me see this.

• 59:21Speaker 08

  The NCAA has complied immediately, by the way. That's good. But I understand Maine, is Maine here, the governor of Maine?

• 59:27Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 59:28Speaker 08

  Are you not going to comply with it?

• 59:31Speaker 07

  I'm complying with state and federal laws.

• 59:34Speaker 08

  Well, we are the federal law. Well, you better do it. You better do it because you're not going to get any federal funding at all if you don't. And by the way, your population, even though it's somewhat liberal, although I did very well there, your population doesn't want men playing in women's sports. So you better comply because otherwise you're not getting any federal funding.

• 59:54Speaker 07

  I'll see you in court.

• 59:55Speaker 08

  Every state, good, I'll see you in court. I look forward to that. That should be a real easy one.

• 59:59Patrick Bet-David?

  She said to him, "I'll see you in court." Yeah, there you go. So let me read this to you. Let me read this to you. So President Trump demands, is this it, Rob? Here they go. "While the state of Maine has apologized for the governor's strong but totally incorrect statement about men playing in women's sports while at the White House Governor's Conference, we have not heard from the governor herself, and she is the one that matters in such cases. Therefore, we need a full-throated apology from the governor herself in a statement that she will never make such an awful challenge to the federal government ever again before this case can be settled. I'm sure she will be able to do that." Rob, can you read the rest? Because I can't see the rest.

• 1:00:37Speaker 09

  Therefore, we need a full-throated apology from the governor herself and a statement that she will never make such an unlawful challenge to the federal government again before this case can be settled. I'm sure she will be able to do that quite easily. Thank you for your attention to this matter and in all capitals, make America great again. Three exclamation points.

• 1:00:56Patrick Bet-David?

  That is unbelievable. Unbelievable. So he says, "University of Maine system network of eight public universities caved this week to Trump's order after administration blocked Department of Agriculture funds and gave a 10-day ultimatum from the Department of Education risking $250 million yearly." Trump insisted while the state of Maine has apologized, she has to apologize. Okay. So, who have thoughts on this one? Tom, I think this is you. Go for it.

• 1:01:17Tom Ellsworth?

  I have thoughts. Here's the thought I have. There are eight public universities in Maine. Vinnie, it's time for fun with math. Okay. How much, how many dollars, how many dollars are being sent to Maine? 250 million. Let's say Maine keeps 10 million just as an administration fee. All right, so 240. 240. What's 240 divided by 8? Shit. Tom, what the hell are you doing right now? 60. Come on, come on. 30. It's easy. It's 30. So, why is the United States federal government sending 30 million per university to the University of Maine if those businesses, it's a business, can't sustain themselves? I don't want the federal government, first of all, this shows

• 1:02:02Tom Ellsworth?

  that what Trump is doing has teeth. And he's getting states to move off dumb policies and off previous positions. And just like he said there, yeah, you'll see it in court. Oh yeah, that'd be fine. That'd be an easy one. And guess what? It didn't even go to court. It just went, it just went to his pen. Okay, 250 out like this. But the greater question for me is, is like, okay, now the federal government gives the funding back. I'm like, wait a minute, wait a minute. I thought we were shutting down Department of Education and I'd like to see Doge take a look at why do eight universities in Maine need an average of $30 million each to operate? If you can operate, charge tuition and operate, but if you need money from the federal government? Are you kidding me?

• 1:02:47Tom Ellsworth?

  You can't make it without that? I, I think Doge, get on it.

• 1:02:51Patrick Bet-David?

  You think she will be apologizing?

• 1:02:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Do I think, do I think she will eventually sign a letter of resolution? Yes, I think she will. Will it be everything that the, that Trump wants? No, because she just won't be able to do that. She'll have like a seizure or something. But she's gonna, she'll sign something.

• 1:03:08Speaker 05

  And why do they all look like that? Every time you hear somebody that hates Trump and they're democratic and like, look, it's like a Hillary Clinton clone. And like, she wanted to play tough and now she's folded like a freaking lawn chair and I love it. He's right.

• 1:03:22Tom Ellsworth?

  I, I don't care if she looks like, I'm not gonna pick on her looks. I'm just gonna listen to what comes out of her mouth.

• 1:03:25Speaker 05

  I'm not picking on her looks.

• 1:03:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Which is even uglier than anything you could imagine.

• 1:03:28Speaker 05

  No, but what I'm saying, I'm not picking on her looks. What I'm saying is though, why is it that they all have that look and that face and that bitterness and that anger? And it doesn't help. Like it doesn't help she back down. You know what I mean? That's it.

• 1:03:40Tom Ellsworth?

  It's like your pictures last night on Piers Morgan.

• 1:03:42Speaker 05

  Yeah, exactly.

• 1:03:43Tom Ellsworth?

  You're right.

• 1:03:44Speaker 05

  Yeah, exactly. Thank you.

• 1:03:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Matter of fact, can you go to that clip, Rob? That clip was the best because guys, basic tip about life. Bitterness, misery, envy, all of those qualities, you know what it does? It ages you so flipping fast, it's not even funny. Start it from the beginning, Rob. Let him, oh, is it two minutes into, oh shit, that was too long, Rob.

• 1:04:07Speaker 05

  I'll send them, I'll send them.

• 1:04:08Speaker 09

  We get it right, I mean, he gets into it right around here.

• 1:04:11Patrick Bet-David?

  When he calls him an idiot, go from there.

• 1:04:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Hey, I know that guy, Vinny, right there. He's angry.

• 1:04:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that it? Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:04:16Speaker 05

  Of pre-Trump and post-Trump. Look at this. This is Rosie O'Donnell before Trump. Right? Nice, good. Look what happens, Piers, with Trump Derangement Syndrome. All right? Rachel Maddow. Look at how hot Rachel Maddow was. And then look, Trump Derangement Syndrome. She looks like Stephen Colbert. And then look, Kathy Griffin, someone that I might have hooked up with if I was drunk, they turned her into Carrot Top. Okay? That's what it does to you people. Okay? You guys have lost your freaking minds. Oh, excuse me, I'm not finished. I'm not finished. And Piers, in that interview, she's like, I can't.

• 1:04:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Vinny, you killed that thing.

• 1:04:48Speaker 05

  Well, the guy tried, the guy tried to talk smack and I was like, bro, you will never say that in front of my face.

• 1:04:53Tom Ellsworth?

  So what happened with you and Kathy Griffin?

• 1:04:55Speaker 05

  Nothing. I said if she, if I was drunk and back in the day, but she looks. But you don't drink anymore these days. No, I don't drink, so she, she doesn't have a chance. She looks good these days.

• 1:05:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Were you gonna say something or no?

• 1:05:03Adam Sosnick?

  No, I, first of all, I, I love what you did there. I, Vinny, I love what you did there because you're pointing something out because there is something to be pointed out. Is that the bitterness and everything aged people. You weren't, there were two of the, okay, you had the carrot top joke at the end.

• 1:05:17Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:05:17Adam Sosnick?

  But the others was legitimate. This is aging people that present themselves as bitter and angry and upset.

• 1:05:24Speaker 05

  That's true.

• 1:05:24Adam Sosnick?

  And it's real.

• 1:05:25Speaker 05

  Yep. It is so true.

• 1:05:26Adam Sosnick?

  If you think about what they were actually arguing about, I know we're caught up on her and her looks, whatever. They were arguing about whether men should participate in women's sports. And this is, you know, as we talk about an 80% issue versus a 20%. Trump's just basically taking the 80 and being like, there's two genders, that's it. This is what's going on here. You, you keep your nuts out of the women's locker room. And most of the country agrees. But by the way, not to get too inside baseball here, callback. Maine is a very weird state. So Maine is, is liberal, but it, it, it has Senate, like, do you know who the two senators are in Maine?

• 1:06:05Speaker 05

  Lisa Murkowski.

• 1:06:06Adam Sosnick?

  No, that's Alaska, Tom. I'm disappointed that you don't know that. It's Susan Collins.

• 1:06:10Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:06:11Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 1:06:12Speaker 05

  The other Murkowski.

• 1:06:12Adam Sosnick?

  It's okay, exactly. Who's like a Republican, but she's basically always against Trump. And it has the only independent senator, Angus King, who basically caucuses with the Democrats.

• 1:06:24Speaker 05

  And he used to play lead guitar in the ACDC.

• 1:06:27Adam Sosnick?

  Gangster. Did he really? All right, maybe that's a Tom joke. But the point is Maine, 30% of their constituency, your favorite word is Democrat. Another 30 something percent is Republican, the 30% is independent. So this is going to come down to what the people of Maine. Want to see. So something tells me that maybe, just maybe, as much as I agree with Trump on this, the governor kind of knows her constituency better than Trump does. So if he sees her in court, let's see what happens.

• 1:06:59Speaker 05

  I don't think it's gonna be in court. I think families are just tired. Explain to those, explain to those families why their school is losing a quarter of a billion dollars because they're sticking up for a dude in a skirt? Poll vaulting. Okay, go for that.

• 1:07:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Also Maine and Nebraska also do something during presidential elections. They, they split their districts. It's not winner take all. And those are things that I know for fact, California and Illinois do not like that because there's a big part of Southern Illinois and a big part of Central California. Those votes would go away to the other side.

• 1:07:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Let's, let's, let's talk about this, the whole conversation with Rosie O'Donnell. This is Rosie O'Donnell going full election. I said it correctly this time. Election denier claims Musk stole 2024 for Trump. And apparently Musk runs the internet. But go ahead. Go for it, Rob.

• 1:07:43Speaker 17

  What has happened since he's took, taken office has been terrifying, I think, for the world and definitely for the United States of America.

• 1:07:51Speaker 18

  You know, a lot of people did vote for him.

• 1:07:55Speaker 17

  Yes.

• 1:07:55Speaker 18

  Do you accept their, their right to do that and their opinion of him?

• 1:08:00Speaker 17

  Well, I respect their right to do that. I question why the first time in American history, a president has won every swing state. And is also best friends and his largest donor was a man who owns and runs the internet. So I would hope that that would be investigated.

• 1:08:18Adam Sosnick?

  The whole internet?

• 1:08:19Speaker 17

  And that we would see whether or not it was an anomaly or something else that happened on election night in America when Kamala Harris was filling up stadiums with people who supported her. And Donald Trump was not able to do that. So it, it, it's curious to me. And as an American and a believer in democracy, I would hope that we would be able to look at all of the reasons why this happened in our country.

• 1:08:49Speaker 05

  Okay, first of all, first of all, this is exactly, I forgot which governor didn't, didn't somebody in Congress try to make it where Trump derangement syndrome is an actual thing?

• 1:08:59Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, there was the-

• 1:09:00Speaker 05

  And this is, she has one of-

• 1:09:01Adam Sosnick?

  There was the Republican in Minnesota who got convicted of something weird.

• 1:09:04Speaker 05

  Yeah, accused.

• 1:09:05Adam Sosnick?

  Accused, my bad.

• 1:09:07Speaker 05

  But look-

• 1:09:07Tom Ellsworth?

  She's right about one thing.

• 1:09:08Adam Sosnick?

  Don't worry about that guy.

• 1:09:09Speaker 05

  But look at what it's done to her, and I truly believe this, if you're out there and you have this mental disorder, I think you should be able to sue, Tom, class action lawsuit, some lawyer, some firm should get behind it, and you should be able to sue CNN and MSNBC. Look at what it has done to people like Rosie O'Donnell, and she's not the only one. There are countless, you guys know them out there, okay? She's talking about Trump's abusers? Guess what? She's a Democrat. Bill Clinton, accused of sexual assault and rape, how many times, okay? Joe Biden, sexual assault, all these alleged, all these women coming forward, on camera sniffing freaking girls all the time. His daughter writes in the diary that her father showered with her at inappropriate ages.

• 1:09:54Speaker 05

  She's screaming about women's rights, but this is the party that wants men to compete with women, okay? And she's a lesbian. You would think she'd be the one sticking up for all these women, and she's not. And it's ridiculous. And she wants to go to, guess where she is right now? She's in Ireland. Hey Rosie, have you been paying attention? No, the free speech is gone, they'll arrest you for stuff that you have on your freaking phone. Crime is skyrocketing, the immigration system is completely overrun, and just FYI, guess who's trying to run the country and be the president? Conor McGregor. So guess what? If he wins, where the hell she's gonna go left? And guess what? I am anti, if you leave this country, Pat, this is Vincent O'Shaughnessy's point of view, you don't get to come back.

• 1:10:38Speaker 05

  Your citizenship gets to go somewhere that's dying and waiting to come into this country. We don't need losers and people that abandoned the country, we want freaking patriots. So good, I'm happy, at least she talked the talk and she walked the walk. Don't bring your ass back here.

• 1:10:51Tom Ellsworth?

  She was right about one thing, and Harris was filling stadiums, but they were high school lacrosse stadiums.

• 1:10:57Speaker 05

  Yeah, so there's a difference, though.

• 1:10:59Adam Sosnick?

  Women's lacrosse. By the way, you know, there's a guy we know that wrote a book called Choose Your Enemies Wisely.

• 1:11:05Speaker 05

  I know him.

• 1:11:06Adam Sosnick?

  In 2015, 2016 was Trump was his first time on stage, we all remember that clip. With Trump being asked by Megyn Kelly, "You've called women dogs, slobs, pigs," and you see him just kinda like,

• 1:11:23Adam Sosnick?

  "Only Rosie O'Donnell." At that moment, her career officially ended.

• 1:11:30Speaker 05

  If she ever had one.

• 1:11:31Adam Sosnick?

  And his career took off.

• 1:11:34Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:11:34Adam Sosnick?

  And then even Megyn Kelly, who, you know, "I could tell blood was coming from her eyes." They had beef for a little bit. Now she's pretty much a Trump supporter. But he destroyed Rosie O'Donnell.

• 1:11:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Play the clip real quick.

• 1:11:46Adam Sosnick?

  Go ahead.

• 1:11:47Speaker 19

  Mr. Trump.

• 1:11:48Speaker 05

  I love this.

• 1:11:49Speaker 19

  One of the things people love about you is you speak your mind and you don't use a politician's filter. However, that is not without its downsides, in particular, when it comes to women.

• 1:11:59Adam Sosnick?

  This is his first question.

• 1:12:00Speaker 19

  You've called women you don't like fat pigs, dogs, slobs, and disgusting animals. Your Twitter account is several-

• 1:12:07Speaker 05

  "Only Rosie O'Donnell."

• 1:12:10Speaker 19

  No, it wasn't.

• 1:12:11Adam Sosnick?

  And since, since that moment, think about this.

• 1:12:16Speaker 05

  He's the President of the United States!

• 1:12:18Adam Sosnick?

  Think about this.

• 1:12:19Speaker 05

  Bro.

• 1:12:19Adam Sosnick?

  Has she been relevant-

• 1:12:21Speaker 05

  That's just Iron Man fans. Sand lands on stage, puts the fist down, and that's that. And, listen, I, you know, I love this because, remember, they always were like, "Why? He, he would, they, you guys talk shit to him, he gets to talk shit back. That's how it works."

• 1:12:37Adam Sosnick?

  And he has a way bigger platform, and he's got a megaphone, he has a-

• 1:12:39Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, let's go to the next one here.

• 1:12:41Adam Sosnick?

  She's a mess, she has TDS.

• 1:12:42Patrick Bet-David?

  While this is going on, Bill Maher is now, apparently, going to the White House to visit Trump. And he's getting, he's getting a lot of slack for it. When he was on a podcast, Kid Rock was there a couple of weeks ago and said, "I want you to come meet Trump. And I'm gonna take you to the White House, and we're gonna go there." And then Kid Rock said a Trump supporter appeared on Real Time. Maher predicted backlash from left saying, "And there will be lots of people on the left who will be like, 'How dare you talk to this man?'" It's like, "F you, I'm not playing this game that you mean girls play. Oh, you know that, you can't, is this the clip, Rob?"

• 1:13:19Speaker 19

  Yes.

• 1:13:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, play that clip, Rob. It's better off him saying it.

• 1:13:22Speaker 20

  Kid Rock was here a couple of weeks ago, and he said, "I want you to meet Trump." He said, "I'm gonna take you to the White House." So now we're gonna do that. That'd be, I think that's a good conversation. And like, there will be lots of people on the left who'll be like, "How dare you talk to this man." And I'm like, "Fuck you." You know, I'm not playing this game with, that you mean girls play. Your boy Shuld, yes. Where like, "Oh, you know what? You can't sit at my lunch table, because I'm just not talking to you." Not talking to you, you lost the election. Who the fuck do you think you have to talk to? You know, it's one thing if you win it. Yeah, yeah. It's another thing if you lose it. You gotta start talking to people. Have to talk to. And I see Gavin Newsom is doing this now. He's changed his tune, he's got a podcast, and he, the first guest was Charlie Kirk. I thought that was, you know? I thought that was brilliant.

• 1:14:06Speaker 20

  And he mentioned me, he said, like, "I take my, I'm noticing what Bill does, talks to both sides, like, is left-leaning, but not afraid to criticize the people on his team." Like, we gotta get more of this going. There's, they always say that- This has to become the center. This has to become a real center. Right now, it's like, it's a, it's a few lonely islands that I need to like, become a bigger fucking sandbar. Yeah. No, for real, you're right. Like, it needs to be normalized.

• 1:14:40Adam Sosnick?

  Adam. Well, Bill Maher is absolutely right. I mean, I don't care what he says, no matter what he does, he's always, always, always going to be left of center. His city could burn down, they could chop off all the dicks in California, and he's still gonna be like, "Ah, I'm still with Gavin." He doesn't care. But he's at least willing to have the conversation. Like, he'll go to like, to the edge of the line, he'll look over on the other side, be like, "Ah, not yet." How old is Bill Maher, by the way? He's gotta be 70. No? So, what you have to give him credit for is that he's at least willing, 69, dude. He's about to be seven next year. He's at least willing to have that conversation.

• 1:15:24Adam Sosnick?

  I mean, you had a great conversation with him on the podcast. And by conversation, I mean, he spoke to you for about two hours. And you said, you asked him a couple of questions.

• 1:15:32Speaker 05

  Okay, well, listen, this is my opinion. You guys aren't gonna like it because I know where, you know, you guys. The dialogue is good. I know people want to hear it. And but here's the thing, why? Bill Maher still does it right now. I know he's kind of shifting, but he called Trump a Nazi, Hitler, a traitor, an idiot, criminal, threat to democracy. What, what are they gonna meet about? He also said he belongs in prison. He made fun of his family. He called people that support him stupid. And in 2016, he wrote a whole, did a special called Whiny Little Bitch to Trash Trump. And let's not forget, he offered $5 million. Do you remember this to charity? If Trump could prove his mother, his dead mother, didn't have sex with an orangutan. Okay, let's just put that out there. Okay, that's not criticism.

• 1:16:16Speaker 05

  That's freaking hate. Okay, and what, to me, it's, it's what? What is that gonna help Trump? Seeing Bill Maher in the White House is gonna do what? I'm just curious. He's not going for reelection. He's not, to me, all it does is hurt the opposite side. Because let's be real, people like Gavin Newsom, okay? He's not a political opponent. He's the enemy. Okay, if he gets into the power, what do you guys think he's gonna do? All this podcasting and all this thing, to me, it's making them look like, yeah, the other side is, is, is good because it's not about us. The Republicans are gonna vote for him. Their side is gonna go, you know what? Gavin seems, hold on.

• 1:16:55Adam Sosnick?

  Let me ask you a question.

• 1:16:56Speaker 05

  You can, but let me finish. We're making him seem like he's a good person because he's speaking and he's on a podcast. Adam, do not let these people fool you. Once they get in, they get into power, that guy is a full of shit snake. Okay, you don't, this is war. You don't hand the enemy the microphone. You don't give them a platform. You don't give them the spotlight. You don't make them look good because once they go in, don't get it twisted, bro. This is positive and negative. It's good and evil. Gavin Newsom, you want to make him look good for what? Look at what he does to the state. Look at California. Okay, we dodged a bullet with Kamala. I don't, I, I'm not a fan of it. They're the enemy, bro. Why make them look good?

• 1:17:33Adam Sosnick?

  Let me ask you this question.

• 1:17:33Speaker 05

  They would destroy the country if they had the chance to do it. And it almost happened with Kamala.

• 1:17:37Adam Sosnick?

  So there, there's a lot of what you just said that I agree with, but you keep calling the Democrats the enemy.

• 1:17:43Speaker 05

  They are, they are. They really are.

• 1:17:45Adam Sosnick?

  I don't know, okay.

• 1:17:46Speaker 05

  They really are. I believe it. In my heart of.

• 1:17:49Adam Sosnick?

  They're Americans.

• 1:17:50Speaker 05

  You can still be evil and be an American.

• 1:17:51Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, well, this is where you lose a little bit of credibility, in my estimation.

• 1:17:55Speaker 05

  Okay, go ahead.

• 1:17:56Adam Sosnick?

  I think you should find a different word than enemy. These are Americans. They, they, they're elected in America.

• 1:18:03Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:18:03Adam Sosnick?

  Okay? Do I agree with Gavin Newsom? No. Do I think he's a snake oil salesman? Yes. Do I think that, that, that he would be disaster for America? Yes. But calling someone an enemy, like, the Ayatollahs in Iran, they're shouting death to America are an enemy. North Korea that threatens us with missiles, enemy, right? China, competitor, I don't even know if they're an enemy per se, maybe? But to call fellow Americans an enemy, I don't think is doing you any justice.

• 1:18:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam.

• 1:18:34Adam Sosnick?

  Tom.

• 1:18:35Tom Ellsworth?

  You can say that, but you gotta look at both sides, because it's happening on both sides.

• 1:18:40Adam Sosnick?

  Would you have Gavin Newsom on the podcast?

• 1:18:41Tom Ellsworth?

  When Kathy Griffin holds up a severed head and said he's better off dead, what the hell is that?

• 1:18:47Adam Sosnick?

  I'm not, that, Kathy Griffin is a used up comedian. I'm not worried about her. I'm talking about congressmen. I'm talking about governors.

• 1:18:54Tom Ellsworth?

  And the deplorables. And then let's go to the, if there's voter suppression, it should be on the other side. There's been plenty said about that, that the conservatives are the enemies, that the conservatives are backwater, that the conservatives shouldn't even be voting. There's a lot of it that goes on the backside.

• 1:19:10Adam Sosnick?

  I fully agree that that is a horrible rhetoric.

• 1:19:11Tom Ellsworth?

  So you can't just attack one side on Vinnie and say, oh, Vinnie, be careful about saying enemy, enemy. Where did this start?

• 1:19:17Adam Sosnick?

  Tom, I agree with you. You got your panties in a butt.

• 1:19:19Speaker 05

  No, he's passionate.

• 1:19:20Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't like anybody. Stop it. Stop it. Don't, don't, don't throw the pithy little thing, panties in a butt, like, like, like you're.

• 1:19:26Adam Sosnick?

  Ladies, calm down.

• 1:19:27Tom Ellsworth?

  That is so sexist and beneath even you, dude.

• 1:19:30Adam Sosnick?

  So, so I wish that even the Republican, there was, there was a, sorry, PBD, Tom, I know you're getting a little worked up. It's okay. I like it. This is when Tom shows his strength. I like it. Respect. But there was a congressman who was speaking, oh, it was fucking Chuck Schumer. My apologies. He called. The Trump administration, the enemy. And I'm, I'm watching that and I go, that is disgusting. It's disgusting. My point is this.

• 1:19:55Speaker 05

  Okay, cuz I wanna say my point.

• 1:19:56Adam Sosnick?

  We gotta stop calling each other the enemy because you disagree with the other side. Is it, would you sit down with Gavin Newsom if you wanted to come on the podcast?

• 1:20:04Speaker 05

  Absolutely not. I don't wanna give him, let me finish, you asked me a question, let me finish.

• 1:20:08Adam Sosnick?

  So Charlie Cook would.

• 1:20:09Speaker 05

  I, that's, I, I say no.

• 1:20:11Adam Sosnick?

  PBD, would you sit down with Gavin Newsom?

• 1:20:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Absolutely.

• 1:20:13Speaker 05

  Okay, yeah.

• 1:20:14Adam Sosnick?

  So you're being an emotional little.

• 1:20:17Speaker 05

  No, I'm not, because Adam, are you ready for this?

• 1:20:19Adam Sosnick?

  When I joined the mil- Tom, since you got your panties in a bunch, would you sit down with Gavin Newsom?

• 1:20:23Tom Ellsworth?

  There you go again, dude.

• 1:20:24Speaker 05

  Let me, can I finish, Adam?

• 1:20:25Adam Sosnick?

  Tom, would you sit down with Gavin Newsom?

• 1:20:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, I would.

• 1:20:28Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, tell me why.

• 1:20:29Tom Ellsworth?

  I would sit down with Gavin Newsom.

• 1:20:30Adam Sosnick?

  Tell me why.

• 1:20:30Tom Ellsworth?

  I think I'd be pretty spirited and I'd really challenge him, but would I sit down with him? In America, where everybody's got free speech and attempt to have a dialogue?

• 1:20:37Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, I would.

• 1:20:38Adam Sosnick?

  Great.

• 1:20:38Speaker 05

  Can I, can I say my thing, Pat, real fast?

• 1:20:40Patrick Bet-David?

  And then I'll, we'll transition.

• 1:20:42Speaker 05

  And Adam, okay, uh, when I joined the military, just like him, we did an oath and it said, I'll support and defend the Constitution, uh, of the United States against all enemies.

• 1:20:51Adam Sosnick?

  Foreign and domestic.

• 1:20:53Speaker 05

  Well, guess what, Adam? When these pieces of, you know what? Go after the president. They take, try to take his money, they try to destroy him, they open up the border and they do all the shit that they did. They are the enemy of the people. I don't care what you wanna say and it might hurt your feelings, I don't give a shit.

• 1:21:08Adam Sosnick?

  So when Chuck Schumer.

• 1:21:09Speaker 05

  Chuck Schumer is one of them. They wanna destroy the country.

• 1:21:12Adam Sosnick?

  So when he calls, when he calls people within the Trump administration, RFK, uh.

• 1:21:19Speaker 05

  Prove, give me the, give me the example of how, yeah, yeah, he's full of shit.

• 1:21:22Adam Sosnick?

  When he calls them the enemy.

• 1:21:24Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:21:24Adam Sosnick?

  Do you think he's wrong in doing that?

• 1:21:26Speaker 05

  No, he, Adam, he could say whatever he want. Show me the receipts. We have the receipts of what the hell the Democrats have been doing for ages, Adam.

• 1:21:33Adam Sosnick?

  So only, so only you're right and they're wrong.

• 1:21:36Speaker 05

  No, no, no, I did not say, I just said, no, you're putting words in my mouth. Adam, there's evil Republicans, there's evil Democrats, but what the Democratic Party did for this past four years, if you can't tell me that that was evil? With all the shit that they're doing with letting in all the kids going missing, open border, drugs poisoning Americans, going after the president and then. The guy gets shot in the head because you're calling him fucking Hitler. Yeah, they're the enemy. They're the enemy, period. End of story.

• 1:22:03Adam Sosnick?

  What I'm saying is, we need to stop calling fellow Americans the enemy.

• 1:22:07Speaker 05

  I'm not, Adam. I'm not. Then stop acting like an enemy. And I won't call you the enemy. If a dog is acting like a dog, I'm like, that's the dog.

• 1:22:14Adam Sosnick?

  Vinny, I love you. Just because you're yelling loud doesn't mean you're right.

• 1:22:17Speaker 05

  You're not making any point. You're not making a point.

• 1:22:19Adam Sosnick?

  No, I'm gonna give you the point right now, my friend.

• 1:22:21Speaker 05

  Go ahead, buddy.

• 1:22:23Adam Sosnick?

  Charlie Kirk sat down with Gavin Newsom.

• 1:22:25Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:22:25Adam Sosnick?

  Your boss, your hero, your idol, PBD, said he would sit down.

• 1:22:29Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 1:22:29Adam Sosnick?

  With Gavin Newsom.

• 1:22:30Speaker 05

  And I wouldn't. I'm my own man.

• 1:22:32Adam Sosnick?

  So maybe you're being a little emotional.

• 1:22:34Speaker 05

  No, I'm not, Adam, because, dude, what is the podcast? Not Pat. I'm talking about Gavin Newsom's podcast is trying to make him look good. He's not good. He's a piece of shit.

• 1:22:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so let's, let's, let's go through this, or my opinion on this here. And this is why this works. We went to a fight this weekend. We were with John Jones and a few Syrian brothers. They had this dirty boxing. It was a very good experience. And guys come up and say, you guys actually get along? We actually get along. Man, it seems like you guys, some of you hate not, nope, we actually get along. But let me tell you this about this thing here. Go and think about it from the lens of Trump, okay? Bill Maher goes to the White House to see Trump. You know who did that in 2017, 2018? Steve Harvey. Remember when Steve Harvey went to the White House?

• 1:23:25Patrick Bet-David?

  And everybody was asking him, I cannot believe you went to the White House and da-da-da-da-da. I got an invitation from the president, so I'm going to the White House. Okay, Steve Harvey. Tim Cook, hey, how could you talk to President Trump and da-da-da-da-da? Well, he picks up my calls when I call him. Really? That's Steve Harvey right there. When he met with the, and by the way, this is a while back when they met. What year is this when they met? 2017, 18? I don't know when it was. 2017, January of 2017. That's January 2017. You know what that is? That is, you know, that is like, that just happened. Minutes after an immigration first. So he's there. By the way, that was probably the most controversial time to go to the White House. Harvey went.

• 1:24:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Bill Maher goes to the White House. Guess who wins if Bill Maher goes to the White House? Bill Maher or Trump? Trump wins, 100%. Trump wins 100% because he's saying, "You're coming to me." Yes. "You're coming to my territory. You're coming to see me. You're coming to look at me." And you know how Trump is wired? Trump is wired, in my opinion, Trump is wired in a way that I believe he believes he can woo you. And he can persuade you. And he can challenge you. And he can call you out on your BS. And he can get you to say, "I kinda like this guy." Okay? "I kinda like that. I hate to say it, but I kinda like this guy." And then they leave and they do whatever they want to do. Bill is at a point right now that he's about to do something he never thought he would do. But here's the kicker of what's about to happen. Newsom.

• 1:24:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Newsom has Charlie Kirk on. Newsom has Steve Bannon on. Right? Newsom has all these guys on. Okay? And I said this yesterday on Hannity. CNN comes out. And what do they do of his podcast? Rob, do you have the clip of what CNN does of his podcast? They fact-check them. Yeah, so they fact-check them. Watch this here. Go to it. Okay, this is CNN. CNN's number one candidate for the left a few years ago, not even a few years ago. A year ago would probably be Newsom. But watch this. Go for it. Play this clip.

• 1:25:25Adam Sosnick?

  By the way, not one person ever in my office has ever used the word Latinx.

• 1:25:28Speaker 14

  So could we finally put that to bed?

• 1:25:29Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, what the hell?

• 1:25:30Speaker 14

  No more Latinx, everybody.

• 1:25:32Adam Sosnick?

  Well, I just didn't even know where it came from. I'm like, what are people talking about?

• 1:25:35Speaker 00

  But there was a person who used Latinx. It was actually a really important person. It was him. Right?

• 1:25:41Speaker 14

  Yeah, that's right. And look, these aren't minor shifts. These are progressive issues that Gavin Newsom used to champion until fairly recently. And now he's not just walking away from them. He's sort of acting like they were never legitimate with that clip talking about Latinx in the first place. But let's just, let's take Latinx. We did find somebody who used it repeatedly in his office. Let's take a listen to this.

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• 1:26:50Adam Sosnick?

  I hope we can really paint a picture in terms of our consciousness of how impactful this has been on the Latinx community. Latinx community, the Latinx and black communities. You've got politicians that are banning not assault rifles, but the word Latinx. They're not even serious.

• 1:27:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. So, that's CNN. I said this to Hannity last night. I said, the same way, five years, whatever the timeline was, four years ago, every day we had to listen to one guy, Andrew Cuomo, when he would do his, you know, whatever press conference every day from New York. And the Democrats would say, "Look how presidential he is. Look how presidential he is. Look how presidential he is." And then Andrew Cuomo decided to stand up to Pelosi and Schumer and not do what they expected him to do. What happened overnight? Oh, immediately.

• 1:27:46Speaker 05

  Ate him alive.

• 1:27:46Patrick Bet-David?

  They slapped him around, they pushed him out, and he was out. Out. And it wasn't pretty. It was nasty, is what they did to him, right? Wait for it. If Newsom continues to have the likes of Bannon...

• 1:28:01Patrick Bet-David?

  The likes of Charlie, say he invites DeSantis. He continues to have these types of people on his podcast. It's a matter of time, 30, 60, 90, 120 days, that the Democrats drop something real nasty about Newsom to the public. You don't have to worry about it being Republicans. You don't have to worry about being a Fox. Democrats will eat their own and they don't like the fact that Newsom is sitting there realizing you best go to the center. And all this BS ideas that you had, guess what? No one was interested. Now, whether that's gonna win in America right now or not, who knows? And I agree with you on this as well. And here's where I fully agree with Vinny. Say he plays center right now.

• 1:28:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Say he plays like he is listening to the other side right now, which he's doing. The moment he gets in. Who needs to give him the money the moment he gets in? Does he need money or does he have his own money?

• 1:28:55Speaker 05

  No, he needs money.

• 1:28:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Whoever gives him the money. He has to go back and do whatever those guys ask him to do that gave him the money. And that time is coming soon, when that does take place. So he'll go in as a center. And then all of a sudden, whoa, here we go, I'm going to the left. What happened? You went in as a center and then I'm going, you guys, you elected me. Now I'm gonna go back to the policies that I had. Something Kamala tried to do. Kamala tried to be, well, no, I never said that about, I never said that about this. No, that's actually not my position. My position is actually this, this, and that. You're going to see how they're going to attack this guy. By the way, while we're talking about this, the Dems are trying to find out who is the face of the party. In Denver, Colorado, Rob, if you want to pull this up. Bernie Sanders has an event with AOC.

• 1:29:42Patrick Bet-David?

  And when you look at this event with AOC, if you can pull this up and play the clip. They say 34,000 people show up to this event. So watch this clip. They say 34,000 people showed up to this event. Okay, and by the way, whatever the number is, that's still a strong audience if you look at that, right? That's a strong audience right there that they have to show up to Bernie and AOC's event. But here's a challenge with this. According to Zero Hedge, Rob, if you can go to Zero Hedge with what Mario Nafal posted, I think it's in the exchange. If you don't have it, I can send it to you. I think you do have it. But I'll text it to you as well. In the text, in the exchange on, I'm sorry, in Zero Hedge's.

• 1:30:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, right there. So massive rally AOC era. It turns out it wasn't as grassroots as advertised. Look at this number here. Despite claims that 34,000 GPS data analysis reveals the real number was closer to 20,000. Still big, but not record breaking because they measured all the cell phones. More revealing a whopping 84% of those devices had shown up to nine other protests or more, including Antifa, BLM events, pro Hamas, pro Palestinian demonstrators and Kamala Harris campaign stop. Over 30% have attended by 20 or more data analysts. The crowd was anything but organic. The majority were tied to activist networks like Disruption Projects, Indivisible,

• 1:31:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Democratic Socialist America, Rise and Resist, and Troublemakers, all reportedly funded by ActBlue.

• 1:31:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Weird.

• 1:31:12Patrick Bet-David?

  And some receiving backing via USAID, optics over authenticity, the playbook hasn't changed, just a target. So you can see this and see the fact that there's a fight going on and everyone's trying to be the face of the Democratic Party. Um, I don't know if they're gonna allow Newsom to be it, and I don't think if they're gonna allow AOC or Bernie to be it. I don't think they're gonna allow either one of them.

• 1:31:33Tom Ellsworth?

  I, I hope, hope not.

• 1:31:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Democratic Party believes in arranged marriage. They don't believe in you get to marry whoever you want to marry. The Democrats believe in you marry who we tell you're gonna marry. They do this practice in some marriages in India. They do this in some Middle Eastern countries. The Democratic Establishment Party is fully an arranged marriage. They'll let you know if AOC can be your wife. They'll let you know if Newsom can be your husband. Until then, they'll let you know whenever they're ready and it may not be those two guys. So, yeah, I think Newsom's gonna do his part. There's a big fight right now to see who's gonna be a part of this. Tom, your thoughts when you see AOC and Bernie doing what they're doing to trying to kind of win the votes of Democrats right now?

• 1:32:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, first of all, you've got the, you're trying to find the face of the party. And so you send out the small market share fringe far left. That just doesn't seem to me like what you'd be sending out. It's about to be baseball season. You gotta send out the American apple pie neutral, almost centrist. And I think this is ridiculous. And of the protesters, boy, we got the executive platinum of protesters. They've been everywhere. They've been collecting up all those miles and everything. This is the executive platinum protesters club. Yeah. Look at that. And so you send them out. So I think this is a real tin ear. And it shows you that somewhere inside the DNC, they really believe their absolute progressive side, their fringe, is something that will get traction.

• 1:32:58Tom Ellsworth?

  And I really just, I believe they sent it out to just put anger on the street. They sent it out to get angry. And that's even one of the things that AOC was saying. If you're really angry, you're with us. Show us you're angry. Show us you're angry. And so it was a high emotion. So they pack the ballot box with a bunch of fake protesters. They tell everybody, get really angry. Show the emotion because that's all the visual clips that they want. But meanwhile, the party, I don't think the party really wants this, but they sent it out. So it was kind of confusing to me. I think it was like an emotion. They want the clips and want the visual, and they want the emotion out there. They want to show some anger and people are upset.

• 1:33:39Patrick Bet-David?

  So do you think, do you think the Democratic Party will allow AOC or Newsom to be the face of the party?

• 1:33:45Tom Ellsworth?

  AOC, I do not think they will allow her, but they may end up with her because female, articulate, attractive, you know, Hispanic. I mean, there's a lot of boxes that she quote checks there. And then, you know, what's really funny is Newsom is trying to be a capitalist. He's out there being a capitalist. I'm the product. I want you to buy me and I want market share. That's capitalism. He does not want the socialist arranged marriage and he's actually staying far from it. And by the way, this has been his MO. And I don't think, do I think they will ultimately select him as the face of the party? I think they may end up in that default position.

• 1:34:27Tom Ellsworth?

  But remember, he's refused to fly with the party for three years. Who put himself out there and had a debate with DeSantis separately?

• 1:34:35Patrick Bet-David?

  It was him.

• 1:34:35Tom Ellsworth?

  That wasn't the DNC. That wasn't sanctioned by the DNC. They were like, will you stay out of the way, please? What the hell are you doing? You know, we're trying to figure out how, what we're going to do with Biden. And yet he was out there. Kind of inserting himself out there. That wasn't DNC. That was Gavin Newsom. I think they may end up with him.

• 1:34:53Speaker 05

  Yeah, well, if you think about it, well, Tom, there's one correction. You said she's articulate. She's definitely not articulate. She's probably one of, I think, her and Jasmine Crockett are up there for the actual dumbest. And I actually want, the moment she sits in an actual debate, there was one clip that I saw where this lady's asking her questions and she was completely lost. Mind you, this is the same person that said that we're gonna be.

• 1:35:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Let me make sure. She can deliver a line. She's not a road scholar.

• 1:35:19Speaker 05

  Yeah, bingo. And the fact that she's like.

• 1:35:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay, so the perception is, wow, that was really wonderful.

• 1:35:24Speaker 05

  Yeah, oh, yeah, 100%. But she's, she's, by the way, didn't she say that the world's gonna end in a couple of years? I don't even know why she would even wanted to run. She thinks we're gonna end. But Gavin Newsom, I'm telling you right now, he's a slick, do you remember when Biden was in, guys, and he was, Biden was on vacation, weird because he was on vacation more than any other president, mentally and physically. He's walking on the White House lawn, remember, no shirt, I mean, no tie, he was walking out there, he's injecting himself, and I'm telling you right now, when it gets down to crunch time, and they have nobody, not Bernie Sanders with his balloon haircut, and her, they're gonna, Tom, you nailed it, he's gonna be the default because people are gonna be used to him. He was on the White House lawn, he was at the debates, talking with DeSantis, oh, he has a podcast, and he's talking to everybody. We kinda like him. They're not gonna go back and look at these Latinx clips.

• 1:36:10Speaker 05

  They're gonna be like, oh, you know what? Gavin's gonna fight. Gavin's for us, and I think that he's gonna be the default guy. Unless somebody comes out of the woodwork, that's a surprise.

• 1:36:19Adam Sosnick?

  So we're just real quick on AOC because we're talking about AOC right now. Rob, I sent you a little, some data. She, whether we like it or not, is the most viable candidate that the Democrats have right now. They did this poll on CNN, who, which Democratic leader best reflects the party's values? She had a whopping 10% in first place. Kamala had nine, Bernie had eight.

• 1:36:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Where's Newsom?

• 1:36:44Adam Sosnick?

  Bernie, Newsom wasn't on this list, ironically enough.

• 1:36:49Tom Ellsworth?

  This is what date? This is recently?

• 1:36:50Adam Sosnick?

  This was recently.

• 1:36:51Tom Ellsworth?

  March 6 through 9?

• 1:36:52Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah. So we'll see where Gavin Newsom ends up. But here's my prediction. She's gonna make a, number one, she's a representative. She's not even a senator. She's not a governor. When's the last time a representative? Did anything like became a president. I don't know.

• 1:37:07Speaker 05

  Bernie got mad when he was asked about it.

• 1:37:08Adam Sosnick?

  Find that out for me. So we'll see where she goes. We'll see where she, if she tries to take Chuck Schumer's Senate seat because he's getting a lot of heat right now after he went through the continuing resolution and passed the budget. But here's my prediction on AOC. Barack Obama's only at 4%, same as Jasmine Crockett. Wow, Barack.

• 1:37:27Speaker 05

  It's over.

• 1:37:28Adam Sosnick?

  Fall from grace, but. I loved her. You know, we talked about, we talked about marketing. We talked about what Trump says. You know, build the wall, drain the swamp, lock her up, da da da. She had a very viral slogan that she wore. She made a sweater for this. Tax the rich. Tax the rich and then eat the rich billionaires shouldn't exist. So let's see what happens. When she runs a presidential campaign, there it is, tax the rich. She wore it on her dress.

• 1:37:56Speaker 05

  How much was that dress?

• 1:37:57Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, let's see what happens when this chick needs to raise a billion dollars. Let's see if what she's gonna do to get that money. My guess is she's gonna go to all the rich people, all the lobbyists. Remember when Chris Cuomo said, look up there, look up there, you know, the, the, the Democratic Party has a major problem. You saw it. Bernie Sanders was like, we gotta take down the billionaires and then please welcome to the stage billionaire governor JB Prentice. It's like, what just happened?

• 1:38:30Speaker 05

  I made a mistake.

• 1:38:30Adam Sosnick?

  He can pick on one because I am one. Yeah, that's the issue is that when you're so against the wealthy, when you're so against the rich, when you want to tax the rich. But then you need their money.

• 1:38:41Speaker 05

  Yeah, weird.

• 1:38:43Adam Sosnick?

  You're gonna have what's called cognitive dissonance and desaprop.

• 1:38:46Tom Ellsworth?

  You make, you make a very good, you made a very good point.

• 1:38:49Adam Sosnick?

  Thanks, Tom.

• 1:38:49Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm not adding on here. I'm just gonna let it go. But when you, when you go, the first thing that happens to a congressman when they become a senator is they change your view on campaign finance reform.

• 1:38:59Adam Sosnick?

  Bingo.

• 1:38:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Because they need billionaire dollars now.

• 1:39:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you cut that for Adam and put it at, pin it at the top like you make a great point.

• 1:39:06Adam Sosnick?

  That happens every show, Pat.

• 1:39:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's go to this next story here. Let's go to this next story here. Next story is Snow White. Snow White bombs, breaks records for the lowest live-action remake opening ever. Let me say that again, ever. Okay, this is Snow White. And for those of you that have daughters, or ladies that are listening to this, remember the first time you watched Snow White? The story, a love story, what happens to it. Snow White starring Rachel Zegler opened to a dismal $43 million, snagging the title of the lowest debut weekend for any Disney live-action remake, beating 2019's Dumbo at $46 million.

• 1:39:50Patrick Bet-David?

  They beat Dumbo. Shame on you, but it's for the worst ever. The article notes this does not count for the 29-year-old live-action remake of 101 Dalmatians, which is not part of the current cycle. Nevertheless, the 1996 remake movie still opened at $33.5 million. Today's dollars, that would be $68 million. Overseas and farce projections whopping $100 million, $87 million globally, falling short of $270 million budget before promotion, leaving Disney facing a brutal, brutal loss. Entertainment media offered excuses with Penske Entertainment Media Monopoly, claiming, "There's another thing when it comes to Snow White, and it has nothing to do with controversy rather her age, that being in Disney years, 88 years, suggesting older tales

• 1:40:35Patrick Bet-David?

  like Maleficent, Cinderella, 101 Dalmatians with darker, colder classical themes. Don't draw modern female audiences." The article counters, "Okay, but then, why did the 2015 live-action remake of 65-year-old Cinderella 1950 open to $68 million domestic and $542 million global gross?" Pretty scary thought here. Rob, can you play the clip? And tell me, folks, if you watch this, tell me if this is attractive to you. Tell me if this is attractive to you. Like, does this, imagine you invested into her being the face of the movie, and she's the main character, and she's trying to promote the movie. Would this make you want to go watch the movie when she's starring in it and she's the main character? Go ahead, Rob, play the clip.

• 1:41:18Speaker 21

  And to everyone who hates when I win, the winged victory came to the Louvre in pieces, and people still line up to see her.

• 1:41:32Speaker 22

  And I can only hope that despite my flaws and despite my cracks and my breaks, and there are many of them.

• 1:41:41Tom Ellsworth?

  She's a good actress.

• 1:41:43Speaker 22

  That at every premiere and everything I do, people will wait in line to see.

• 1:41:52Patrick Bet-David?

  The ego on this girl is ridiculous. Wow. And Rob, do you have another clip of what she did the first time? Is this the one?

• 1:41:58Speaker 09

  Yes, because if you remember, this movie was delayed. And then at one point, they took, because they couldn't have dwarves. Do you guys remember? Yeah, because Theodore Dinklage and all them were talking crap. So originally they took-

• 1:42:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you have a picture of what the dwarves were supposed to look like?

• 1:42:11Speaker 09

  I can find it, but it was an array. It was the D E I of dwarves. Yep. But they actually ended up, that was too controversial. They had to reshoot the film and use CGI dwarves instead of actual dwarves.

• 1:42:22Patrick Bet-David?

  So those dwarves were never used?

• 1:42:23Speaker 09

  No, then they upset the dwarves that weren't used in the film because the dwarves were upset that it was gonna hurt their acting career that they got pulled out of the movie. That's so, you cannot make-

• 1:42:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, I just sent you the picture-

• 1:42:33Speaker 09

  Snow White and the Seven Dwarves didn't have dwarves.

• 1:42:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's see the dwarves picture first and then let's go to the video. Look, it looks like the-

• 1:42:38Tom Ellsworth?

  They had the CGI of the dwarves.

• 1:42:39Speaker 09

  It looks like the dwarf fraternity from like the University of Oregon after a drinking binge. You see this? Yeah, these are the ones that they had to replace completely and do CGI instead.

• 1:42:53Patrick Bet-David?

  So those guys didn't make it?

• 1:42:55Speaker 09

  That guy's 6'2"!

• 1:42:58Patrick Bet-David?

  So what did they replace these guys with? That's sleepy, that's drunky, that's coke head, that's tallie, that's lackey.

• 1:43:05Speaker 09

  With a, uh, Snow White CGI.

• 1:43:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Animated CGI. Can I see it? Yes. Go to images.

• 1:43:12Speaker 09

  These are the ones-

• 1:43:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Little guy! You're joking. They look like Santa's helpers and a fat Santa in the middle.

• 1:43:17Speaker 09

  And this movie was delayed multiple times. This was supposed to come out in 2024. They just released it. And here she is. This is Rachel Zegler. Uh, this is her on the red carpet. This is in 2023 promoting the film and talking about why it's weird.

• 1:43:30Patrick Bet-David?

  This is what you call promotion.

• 1:43:30Speaker 09

  Promoting the film.

• 1:43:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Demoting.

• 1:43:32Speaker 21

  I mean, you know, the, the original cartoon came out in 1937 and very evidently so. There is a big focus on her love story. Um, with a guy who literally stalks her. Yeah. Weird, weird. Super weird. So we didn't do that this time. So no, so no prince or a different kind of prince? We have a different approach to what I'm sure a lot of people will assume is a love story just because like we cast a guy in the movie. Andrew Burnap, great dude. Um, it's a, it's one of those things that I think everyone's gonna have their assumptions about what it's actually going to be, but uh, it's really not about the love story at all, which is really, really wonderful. And whether or not she finds love along the way is anybody's guess until 2024. Oh my god. Um, all of Andrew's scenes could get cut, who knows? It's Hollywood, baby.

• 1:44:17Speaker 05

  What? So yeah. My agent would have punched me in the face if I was up there saying some stupid shit, what an investment, oh, like $300 million. It's snow, they should have just called it snow.

• 1:44:30Tom Ellsworth?

  By, by the way, that was the, that was the budget before promotion was 270.

• 1:44:35Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 1:44:35Tom Ellsworth?

  The promotion budget I just read was 230. So half a billion. Correct.

• 1:44:40Speaker 05

  Half a billion?

• 1:44:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Approximately half a billion in total.

• 1:44:43Speaker 05

  The review, by the way, 43% of Rotten Tomatoes, Roberto sent me this, 1.9 out of 10 on IMDb and those, but by the way, they, they weren't dwarves, they were called bandits. So the Snow White doesn't like, the, the amount of like, if it ain't broken, don't fix it.

• 1:45:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Break it.

• 1:45:01Speaker 05

  Leave it the f- alone. Yeah, that's, if it ain't broke, break it. Like, leave these stories alone. If she, by the way, if she never opened her mouth and she didn't do all this nonsense, people would have gone and watched the movie, they would have made their money, but then people would have been disappointed after the math. Like, why are you talking like?

• 1:45:18Tom Ellsworth?

  I have a, I have a quick question. You and Adam know entertainers, you know a lot of people, Adam's Connected Miami, there's a lot of people down here.

• 1:45:25Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:45:25Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, um, after careers, people coming up in careers, I mean, he knows one of the most prominent comedians and cast members, SNL. So let's play a game called hubris and handlers.

• 1:45:36Speaker 05

  I love games.

• 1:45:37Tom Ellsworth?

  So the handlers are the agents and what do the agents tell them? You know what, you're great, man. They're gonna come see you.

• 1:45:43Speaker 05

  They love you.

• 1:45:43Tom Ellsworth?

  They're gonna see you, you gotta look your best.

• 1:45:44Speaker 05

  You're the best.

• 1:45:45Tom Ellsworth?

  I got, I got you a, I got you a lunch.

• 1:45:46Speaker 05

  Your money, your money, baby.

• 1:45:47Tom Ellsworth?

  I got a lunch, you have lunch with Irving and you're gonna sit with Irving and I'm gonna sit with Irving and. They you are the star. You are the product.

• 1:45:54Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:45:55Tom Ellsworth?

  They're gonna put you in this.

• 1:45:55Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:45:55Tom Ellsworth?

  You are perfect for this role.

• 1:45:57Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:45:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Is that the way it happens?

• 1:45:58Speaker 05

  Hundred percent.

• 1:45:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay, I'm not exaggerating.

• 1:46:00Speaker 05

  And the guy talks like that too. Yes, I'm a star.

• 1:46:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Vinnie, this is a Showtime special. This is Showtime special for comedy. They need a fourth guy right in there. I think you're it. I think it's his. You're gonna make it.

• 1:46:09Speaker 05

  Got it.

• 1:46:10Tom Ellsworth?

  And so the handlers do this to death.

• 1:46:12Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:46:12Tom Ellsworth?

  And then the hubris is they believe it. And then when they're unleashed on the red carpet.

• 1:46:17Speaker 05

  Oh, man.

• 1:46:17Tom Ellsworth?

  That's what you get.

• 1:46:18Patrick Bet-David?

  This is the woman that's stepping down from Lucas Films.

• 1:46:21Speaker 05

  Oh, when did this happen?

• 1:46:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Kathleen Kennedy just announced at the end of 2025, she's leaving. And she's the reason behind a lot of these DEI. This is the one.

• 1:46:30Speaker 05

  The movies and everything, huh?

• 1:46:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Kathleen Kennedy. Yeah.

• 1:46:32Tom Ellsworth?

  So.

• 1:46:33Patrick Bet-David?

  So.

• 1:46:33Tom Ellsworth?

  We're gonna see what's gonna happen here. Adam?

• 1:46:36Adam Sosnick?

  I'm so disappointed in Disney. And I'm I'm not saying this as a moviegoer. I'm not saying this as someone who's railing against DEI. I'm saying this as a stock owner in the company of Disney.

• 1:46:49Tom Ellsworth?

  You brought it?

• 1:46:50Adam Sosnick?

  I brought it to show it. I didn't want to send Rob a picture because I don't want to get a pow pow. But here is my grandma, when I was born, I guess, bought me 10 shares of Disney. Okay?

• 1:47:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, is this your annual vote?

• 1:47:04Adam Sosnick?

  This is my annual vote.

• 1:47:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, wow.

• 1:47:05Adam Sosnick?

  So I get to vote as a shareholder of Disney. My stock has plateaued over the last 10 years. Okay, the stock in 2015 was about 100 bucks. In 2025, it's still 100 bucks. For the last 10 years, Disney, you ain't done shit. I'm trying to save that money. I'm trying to invest that money. I'm trying to grow that money.

• 1:47:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Gone.

• 1:47:29Adam Sosnick?

  Stock price has done nothing in 10 years.

• 1:47:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Thanks, Nana.

• 1:47:31Adam Sosnick?

  So here are the names of the people they're telling me. Look, people, they're saying, we recommend you vote for.

• 1:47:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Recommendation.

• 1:47:38Adam Sosnick?

  All these names. Mary Barra, fired. Amy Chang, fired. Jeremy Deroke, fired. Carolyn Everson, fired. Michael Froman, fired. Robert Iger. How do we know that name?

• 1:47:51Speaker 05

  Bob Iger?

• 1:47:52Adam Sosnick?

  Bob Iger.

• 1:47:53Speaker 05

  Is that his brother?

• 1:47:53Adam Sosnick?

  We wrote his, no, that's him, homie.

• 1:47:55Speaker 05

  Robert, my bad.

• 1:47:56Adam Sosnick?

  Bobby. He was, he was, we wrote his, he read his book, Rat of a Lifetime.

• 1:48:02Adam Sosnick?

  I didn't read it. Yeah, well, you can't read, but well, we read it as a company. Potato, potato. All these guys, Calvin McDonald, nobody knows these fucking people. But they're asking for their jobs back. Yeah. In 10 years, you guys have made no money for shareholders in the company? You guys to go. Adam, we ran out of toilet paper. I might be using that. Thank you.

• 1:48:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Preston, this stock sucks like a vacuum cleaner.

• 1:48:28Adam Sosnick?

  But this movie is the antithesis of what's going on with Disney. Great word.

• 1:48:34Tom Ellsworth?

  And by the way, Mary Barra, who's on the board on that list there, you know what she's famous for?

• 1:48:40Adam Sosnick?

  Tell me.

• 1:48:40Tom Ellsworth?

  She's, she's at General Motors and she crashed Cadillac into a tree. So it's basically.

• 1:48:45Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, man.

• 1:48:46Tom Ellsworth?

  So, hey, you're destroying the auto industry. Perfect. Do you know anything about media? No, that's perfect. Neither do we. Join the board.

• 1:48:54Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, good job. Yeah, but they also want us to vote for approving more executive compensation. You're fired. But here's the thing with this movie. It is all the crap that we've learned about in the last four years. Since wokeness and cancel culture took over. It's all the greatest hits in one movie. Right. It's DEI. They can't even get dwarves in the movie because they're DEIing dwarves. Ridiculous. It's the wokeness. It's the feminism. It's the toxic masculinity. It's the gaze for Gaza, fighting Rachel Zegler, who's Colombian, is fighting with the Israeli Gal Gadot about what's going on. Gal Gadot.

• 1:49:36Adam Sosnick?

  Here's another thing. She's from Israel. She's served her country. Rachel Zegler is a freaking Colombian chick born in America. You don't know nothing about the Middle East. But she feels like she could argue on the same wavelength. She was one of the most beautiful women in the world a few years ago. She's still hot. She's still got it going on. Looks dangerous.

• 1:49:53Patrick Bet-David?

  So what happened at the Oscars when they were presented awards together, Rob?

• 1:49:56Adam Sosnick?

  It got very ugly. Did it? Because Rachel Zegler.

• 1:50:00Patrick Bet-David?

  They were, something happened.

• 1:50:02Adam Sosnick?

  There's a funny line in the movie.

• 1:50:04Patrick Bet-David?

  They have barely done any interviews together.

• 1:50:07Adam Sosnick?

  They can't.

• 1:50:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you have that clip, Rob, of them at the Oscars?

• 1:50:11Adam Sosnick?

  I'm gonna look for it right now. They're funny. If you watch the trailer, this is, they did this before the, all this beef. The first line in the trailer is Snow White is like, can we just be nice? And the queen, the evil queen goes, I don't remember you being so opinionated. That is literally in the movie. And it just goes to show that's so apropos for what's happening right now.

• 1:50:32Speaker 05

  Can we show this, Rob?

• 1:50:33Adam Sosnick?

  Show this right here.

• 1:50:35Patrick Bet-David?

  How long is it, Rob?

• 1:50:36Speaker 05

  Thirty, twenty-five seconds.

• 1:50:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Can we show it?

• 1:50:40Speaker 05

  If I talk over it a little bit?

• 1:50:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Do they have any background music or anything that we can't?

• 1:50:43Speaker 05

  No. I'm not sure. I've not been able to screen the clip.

• 1:50:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's, let's see this here. Go for it.

• 1:50:48Speaker 23

  Visual effects push the boundaries of what we see on screen. Their work makes the impossible seem possible.

• 1:50:56Adam Sosnick?

  Is that the dwarf right there?

• 1:50:57Speaker 23

  With breathtaking ambition, they create magic that wraps its arms around our wildest imaginations. Here are the nominees for best visual effects.

• 1:51:09Speaker 05

  They look like they hate each other up there.

• 1:51:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I don't know if I could tell that.

• 1:51:12Speaker 05

  I felt that.

• 1:51:14Adam Sosnick?

  There's worse stuff. They won't do press together. There's apparently beef right there. But here's the biggest thing, and it's, and it's, you know, I'm bringing all this together right now. Bill Maher, this movie, Disney. Do you remember the, the graph? We love our graphs. Um, of Bill Maher saying how everybody is just gay now, right?

• 1:51:32Speaker 05

  One out of four.

• 1:51:32Adam Sosnick?

  Boomers, you know, Gen X.

• 1:51:34Speaker 05

  Rob.

• 1:51:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh yeah, he went generation by generation. We're doubling every generation by 2050, we're all gay.

• 1:51:40Adam Sosnick?

  In this movie, who was supposed to be the hero in Snow White? The original story, the original adaptation. It was the prince, the quote-unquote stalker, who kisses her and wakes her up and saves her life.

• 1:51:52Speaker 05

  He's a stalker.

• 1:51:53Adam Sosnick?

  In this movie, she's like, oh my God, he's like a stalker. Like, why is he like, so?

• 1:51:58Speaker 05

  He would've been arrested.

• 1:51:59Tom Ellsworth?

  And I don't know if you're looking for a love story, you're not gonna get that. We're doing it different. She's telling you, don't come to Snow White.

• 1:52:04Adam Sosnick?

  And meanwhile.

• 1:52:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Is she your type, Adam?

• 1:52:07Adam Sosnick?

  Gal Gadot, a hundred percent.

• 1:52:08Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, I'm talking about Zegler.

• 1:52:09Adam Sosnick?

  Nope, nope, nope. Um, midget, I'm not into midgets. But what I'll say is this.

• 1:52:14Speaker 05

  Little person or dwarf, Adam.

• 1:52:16Adam Sosnick?

  They just got cancelled.

• 1:52:17Patrick Bet-David?

  What if she's got three rides on Uber all five-star?

• 1:52:19Speaker 05

  Oh.

• 1:52:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Three thousand rides.

• 1:52:21Adam Sosnick?

  Sign me in, sign me up.

• 1:52:22Speaker 05

  She is beautiful. Hold on, let's not fuck. But look at how beautiful you go from like, unattractive because of the shit that comes out of your mouth.

• 1:52:29Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna move on this one, because Adam's getting a little too excited.

• 1:52:31Adam Sosnick?

  Women already give you enough headaches. Now they're liberal and woke. You don't need this in your life.

• 1:52:34Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, matter of fact, let me transition into this next story.

• 1:52:36Adam Sosnick?

  You're transitioning now?

• 1:52:37Patrick Bet-David?

  What are we, yes, we are.

• 1:52:38Adam Sosnick?

  You're transitioning?

• 1:52:39Patrick Bet-David?

  What are you, what are you gonna say here?

• 1:52:39Adam Sosnick?

  Would you take your kids to go see Snow White? Your girls?

• 1:52:43Patrick Bet-David?

  No.

• 1:52:43Adam Sosnick?

  It's supposed to be a kids' movie and all this drama is in it.

• 1:52:46Patrick Bet-David?

  I asked my kids a question the other day. Movies? Or ice cream.

• 1:52:51Speaker 05

  And the olive.

• 1:52:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Brooklyn, no hesitation.

• 1:52:53Speaker 05

  Period.

• 1:52:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Ice cream. Tico movies, mommy, um, ice cream. And Papa was ice cream.

• 1:52:58Speaker 05

  What about Senna?

• 1:53:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Senna was not allowed to come.

• 1:53:01Speaker 05

  Oh, Papa?

• 1:53:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Her and Dylan. What happened? Something happened.

• 1:53:05Speaker 05

  Something deep. We'll talk about that later.

• 1:53:06Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a tough one.

• 1:53:07Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 1:53:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Porter skirmish. That's right. Alright, so let's go through this here. And this is a perfect transition. Wall Street Journal story. American women are giving up on marriage. Oui.

• 1:53:18Speaker 05

  Damn it, that's not good for men.

• 1:53:19Patrick Bet-David?

  This is not good, especially if you want one, like. Let's read this story. Ladies, if you haven't given up on marriage, you're single, you're, uh, you know, take care of yourself and you're into good-looking, young, funny Assyrian men, please menact Vinnie. Vincent Oshana on menact, that's his QR code. And if you have a friend, maybe you're married and you have a girl that you want to introduce Vinnie to, please menact Vinnie. Now, ladies, if you're young, barely out of college, bad relationship with your father.

• 1:53:57Speaker 05

  Yeah. Can't speak good English.

• 1:53:58Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, menact Adam. Okay, it's a very different community we got, no, but you guys. Also, fellas, um.

• 1:54:07Patrick Bet-David?

  As a gay Jew. Let me read this. Allegedly. I'll take what I can get. You're rich. American women are giving up on marriage. Andre Vorlasek, 29-year-old boss Andrea, I'm sorry, Andre, Andrea. Uh, old Boston, 29-year-old Boston accountant said, "I'm financially self-sufficient, enough to do with things myself, enough to do these things myself." What are these things? Opening to a house hunt solo and consider kids alone, admitting, "I don't want to sit here and say I'm 100% happy, but I feel happier just accepting my reality." Daniel Cox of the American Enterprise Institute, "The numbers aren't netting out with more women than men are attending college."

• 1:54:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Buying houses and focusing on their friendships and career over dating and marriage. As 51.4% of women 18 to 40 were single in 2023. Damn. Did you, guys, pay attention. Vinnie and Adam, you guys pay attention to this part. 51.4% of women ages 18 to 40 were single in 2023.

• 1:55:17Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 1:55:17Patrick Bet-David?

  So 51.4% right there in 2023.

• 1:55:20Speaker 05

  Alright.

• 1:55:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Just 23 years ago was only 41.8%.

• 1:55:24Speaker 05

  Damn.

• 1:55:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Exactly. That, that, it went from 41.8 to 51.4% 18 to 40, single. Survey show shifting attitudes with a 2024 AEI poll finding over half of single women said they believed they were happier than their married counterparts versus just over a third of survey single men. A 2022 Pew survey revealing only 34% of single women were looking for romance compared to 54% of single men. That's not a good matchup.

• 1:55:55Speaker 05

  No, it's not.

• 1:55:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinnie, your thoughts on this, since you want to, you did a lot of research on this. What do you want to say about the story?

• 1:56:00Speaker 05

  Um, I don't know. I'm just, uh, I think just with, uh, especially when you have girls like the Rachel Zegler, that their attitude is guys pursuing, you know, girls, it's stalker mentality. And I just think, I just, I don't know, I just, just me as a, as a single guy right now. I mean, I have, I have, Pat, I went from military to no birds and the bees talk with my dad. Never. I don't know if you, did your dad ever give you the talk? Okay, yeah. So I went from military, not knowing anything.

• 1:56:26Patrick Bet-David?

  He would just call me and leave a message in the army and he would say, uh, Tiko, mutket vajit, hemisha condom in the hava, hemisha, okay? He would send me condoms as gifts when I was in the army.

• 1:56:39Speaker 05

  Seriously, 100%. We all know how Vinnie feels about condoms.

• 1:56:42Patrick Bet-David?

  My dad would send me boxes of condom for, when I was in the army.

• 1:56:44Speaker 05

  I love Gabriel. My, that's a father. Even the conversation, my dad not mentioned it once. So then I went from not knowing to military, you know about that, and then to Hollywood. And then it just ruined everything. But I think just the sentiment now, the, the, I think it's a mind shift and it's a culture shift. Because at the end of the day, you know, we're made to put, put here to do what? Multiply?

• 1:57:10Patrick Bet-David?

  And procreate.

• 1:57:10Speaker 05

  And procreate and, and, and do it. And I mean, listen. It's I'm I'm I'm in line and I'm just, you know, I'm biding my time. I'm glad I got in. It's gonna happen.

• 1:57:19Adam Sosnick?

  I'd love to hear Tom's opinion, then I can maybe back cleanup here.

• 1:57:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, first of all.

• 1:57:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam's gonna clean up, guys. He's a cleanup.

• 1:57:27Adam Sosnick?

  Cleanup on aisle seven.

• 1:57:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Cleanup on aisle seven. Adam would be ninth place. Like, what do you call, like pitchers? Go ahead, go ahead.

• 1:57:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Unfortunately, these numbers, unfortunately, the numbers are real, starting about, starting with the number of women that are in college versus men that are in college. There are shifts that are happening all over the place. And, and, you know, there's, we could do a case study on this. But there has been the emergence of the, and it's over, I think it's 18 years, because that goes back to 07. Is the emergence of the hookup culture. And so the hookup culture and temporary relationships, the changing demographic of who's in college and women. But there are other, so all that's very real. I'm not gonna say that's not real. But there are other stats out there that talk about satisfaction, having children with a married partner.

• 1:58:20Tom Ellsworth?

  They talk about that the truth, that there is happiness and satisfaction. Is it challenging? Yes. They'll drive you nuts some weekends? Yes. But is there an ultimate joy in knowing that you're building citizens of the future and you're building this person of quality? And the answer is yes. And so for every article that talks about one side of it, there's a lot of other data that talks about the other side. But unfortunately, a lot of the things they're talking about are very real. And today's single people are having greater challenges than ever before. Finding people that think and feel the same way they do, that they feel that they could trust, trust, and build a big relationship with.

• 1:58:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, cleanup. Come on.

• 1:58:59Adam Sosnick?

  Cleanup on aisle seven.

• 1:59:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Hit it.

• 1:59:00Adam Sosnick?

  So Chelsea Handler, it's all your fault. American women are giving up on marriage. You know, when Chelsea Handler, my ex, you know, when we had that internet beef three years ago, it's because I was citing a report from Morgan Stanley called The She Economy, not the economy, but the she economy. And basically saying by 2025, which the year we're in now.

• 1:59:26Adam Sosnick?

  They anticipate that 45% of working women between 18 and 40 will be childless, no married, no kids. Well, the report was wrong because they said 45%. Tom, you're a numbers guy. What number is it now? 41.8 according to the... No, that's what it was in 2000. Tom, not sure why I called on you. 51.4, 51.4 according to the American Enterprise Institute. Thank you, Tom. You had one job and you got the stat wrong. I love you anyway. However, 51% of women have nothing going on, no marriage, no kids, no nothing. That's up literally 10% since 2000. So Chelsea Handler, you might want this no kid, all drugs, all sex toy thing going on in your life.

• 2:00:11Adam Sosnick?

  And that's great because you're famous and you're a feminist and you've got millions in the bank. But my question is this, for the 38-year-old woman who's making 60 grand a year, working as whatever job, for the 34-year-old woman who's basically focused on her job and not a family, for the 44-year-old woman who's now considering having a baby with herself, did modern feminism work out for you? So I would argue that Chelsea Handler has been the poster child for what is wrong in America, for focusing on yourself rather than a family. A woman has one job that she can do better than a man, only one. Birthing?

• 2:00:52Adam Sosnick?

  And that's birthing. It's not working, it's not fighting, it's not hustling, it ain't rebounding what's-her-face in the WNBA that's going on strike. It is birthing. Angel Reese. So there's been this conflation of that men are women and women are men. There's no difference. Men and women are not equal. Why? Because equal means the same. We're not the same. You have this magical, amazing ability to have children and give birth, and you're giving it all up to do what? Make a couple extra bucks? And then here's the funniest thing is they say things like, you know, I don't want no man telling me what to do. Listen, bitch, you don't want your husband telling you what to do, but you'll have a random boss telling you what to do?

• 2:01:37Adam Sosnick?

  So it doesn't make any sense to me. The happiest, in my opinion, that women were was when they were focusing on family, having kids, they didn't have to stress about work. I'm not saying that they shouldn't work, but prioritize kids and family. Vinny's 58 years old. He could still impregnate a woman today. Yep. You go meet a 58 year old woman. She ain't doing nothing.

• 2:02:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Honestly, with the way you your take, I'm surprised you're single, not married.

• 2:02:07Adam Sosnick?

  So I'm not.

• 2:02:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Very surprised.

• 2:02:09Adam Sosnick?

  I have a news flash. Polly Mark. So we're not going to play this game because I was married 10 years ago to a woman. Very lovely girl. To a woman. Okay. To a woman. That's right. Tom, you've been with one in your life. You understand. And she wasn't a wife. She wanted to get married, but she wasn't willing to be a wife. So I sent her back out to. To the pack. Her pasture. To the herd. Figured out. And now here's the biggest problem. We can make fun of us all this want. There's a lot of hoes out there. There's a lot of girlfriends out there. There's a lot of girls that you would date. There's not a lot of good wives out there. You know, we're talking about inflation in America today. Are you familiar with another term called hoflation? Familiar with this term, Vinny? I just heard it right now.

• 2:02:51Adam Sosnick?

  The price you pay for an average wife, for a woman who used to be a wife, is much greater than it has ever been. The concept of men having to work 20 times harder than their grandfathers for for women that are 20% worse than their grandmothers. That Webster's? That's Webster's. Urban dictionary. Urban. Got it. Got it. Dictionary. But now you're starting to see things like, did you know who, um, this is a weird thing. We were talking about, I was actually talking about it with Andrew Tate. Do you know who Riley Reid is? No. Okay. She's a famous porn star. Don't Google it. Ballplayer. Don't Google it. Don't Google it. You could just maybe hit an image and hit a blurt. Okay, there she is. This is a woman. Think about this for a second, guys. Looks wet. She is. No, I mean, I mean, her, guys. I get it, Vinny.

• 2:03:35Adam Sosnick?

  You're going to pervert land. I'm saying she looks like she's just been. Google Riley Reid wedding. So she recently got married. Okay. To a guy I think he's famous for doing parkour. This is a, this is a adorable little girl who has, okay, go to that image right there. So you can see. I don't think I can show this. No, no, you can show. Okay, maybe. Don't show this in the back, please. Okay, gotcha. All right. That's her. Maybe you don't show that. That's her after being.

• 2:04:05Patrick Bet-David?

  There's no way we showed that, did we?

• 2:04:06Adam Sosnick?

  Don't show that. Don't show that. That's her after being with, let's just say, the starting five for the Lakers and, um.

• 2:04:15Adam Sosnick?

  Then juxtapose that with getting married to some dude. And then she says, hey, guys, internet. By the way, she's all over the internet. Hey, guys, would you please, um, respect the fact that I'm married now and maybe delete all the scenes? I've done on the internet because I've grown now.

• 2:04:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Good luck with that.

• 2:04:33Adam Sosnick?

  And I want to be respected. So here's this cuck marrying a literal porn star. And basically saying, don't worry about your past, babe. It's okay that you've been, um, filled more times than an Exxon gas pump. Okay? So that is the problem with women. This is hoflation. That is who men are choosing to marry. That's a wife. That's who you're gonna choose to have. Hey, mom, I want to introduce you to my new girlfriend, Riley Reid. Unbelievable. So who's the one that we talked about you had sex with a hundred guys?

• 2:05:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Is this like your chance to vent because you're done? Okay, so we got it. We understand where you're at with this.

• 2:05:11Adam Sosnick?

  What does that mean I'm done?

• 2:05:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, like I'm good. You've been speaking plenty of time. We'll move on. So.

• 2:05:15Adam Sosnick?

  But, but you do notice what's happening in society.

• 2:05:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, I got your point. You're, you're in this life, so the only people you're ever with is with nightlife people.

• 2:05:23Adam Sosnick?

  No, Pat, you're absolutely wrong. I. You're, I'll tell you why you're wrong.

• 2:05:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Am I absolutely wrong?

• 2:05:26Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, I'll tell you why you're wrong.

• 2:05:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so go ahead. Tell us what you're, tell us what's changed with you.

• 2:05:30Adam Sosnick?

  Because it's not, it's not I'm in this life. Every man who's single is in this life.

• 2:05:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:05:33Adam Sosnick?

  I get that you're happily married, you have four kids.

• 2:05:35Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, that's not, no, no.

• 2:05:35Adam Sosnick?

  That's amazing. No, that is the point.

• 2:05:36Patrick Bet-David?

  No, that's not the point.

• 2:05:37Adam Sosnick?

  The person's the point.

• 2:05:38Patrick Bet-David?

  For, for.

• 2:05:39Adam Sosnick?

  The point is you don't know what it's like to be single out there. And see, half the girls you meet are doing OnlyFans.

• 2:05:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, where are you looking for these people?

• 2:05:46Adam Sosnick?

  I'm not even saying me, Pat.

• 2:05:47Patrick Bet-David?

  No, but that's, that's the point of where are you looking?

• 2:05:49Adam Sosnick?

  Don't worry about me. I'm good. I'm talking about the rest of men in society.

• 2:05:52Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no, no. You're, you're speaking from your perspective.

• 2:05:54Adam Sosnick?

  No.

• 2:05:55Patrick Bet-David?

  You're, you're speaking.

• 2:05:56Adam Sosnick?

  Who do you think has more credibility on this topic? Me or you?

• 2:05:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Your, to being around hoes, you. Yeah, I agree. You're, you're around this. That's, that's your market.

• 2:06:02Adam Sosnick?

  True that, but also being in.

• 2:06:04Patrick Bet-David?

  No, but, but, but, but if you're asking me who has more credibility, you do in this area. But also.

• 2:06:10Adam Sosnick?

  I don't hang out with this girl.

• 2:06:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Your challenge.

• 2:06:12Adam Sosnick?

  I also hang out with normal women.

• 2:06:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, your challenge.

• 2:06:14Adam Sosnick?

  I'm saying the challenge that young men are facing.

• 2:06:17Patrick Bet-David?

  When's the last time you did Sauce Cast? When's the last time you did Sauce Cast?

• 2:06:20Adam Sosnick?

  It got canceled because I don't know for whatever reason.

• 2:06:22Patrick Bet-David?

  When's the last time you did Sauce Cast?

• 2:06:23Adam Sosnick?

  It's been a while.

• 2:06:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Why do you think you stopped doing Sauce Cast?

• 2:06:25Adam Sosnick?

  Because I stopped talking about money because someone encouraged me to start talking about the hoes.

• 2:06:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Who did?

• 2:06:30Adam Sosnick?

  Some gentleman that maybe works here.

• 2:06:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Someone told you to talk about hoes?

• 2:06:34Adam Sosnick?

  No, I didn't say that.

• 2:06:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Who?

• 2:06:36Adam Sosnick?

  I don't know.

• 2:06:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Who? Tell us, tell us who?

• 2:06:38Adam Sosnick?

  Tell you, we'll tell you who was.

• 2:06:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead. Tell us who? Saying what? Someone told you to talk about hoes? Talk about relationships and lifestyle. Oh, okay, okay, so you, so for you, when you, you, you, how old are you right now, bro? I'm forty-five. Forty-five years old, this is how you're speaking about this? Yes. So you. Because this is how they talk, this, so what's your criticism with me, sir? This is what, this is what, go ahead, tell me. This is what's going out there in society at this point. For who, though, in what community? For every man out there. It's not true, though. Yes, that is true. That is not true, though. It's worth, you, you know. What percentage of women did OnlyFans twenty years ago? Do you know? What percentage of women did OnlyFans twenty years ago? Do you know how long prostitution, do you know how long prostitution's been around? It's the oldest profession. How long has prostitution been around?

• 2:07:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Forever. Okay, then, so go to how long that's been around, the, the trade of prostitution, or whatever you want to talk about it. Ten seconds after the invention of money. How long have drugs been around, how long has, but you know what you sound like to me? You sound like a little victim, is what you sound like. What? You sound like a little. You're making this about me, and I'm making this about society. No, no, no, because what. So go ahead, I'm the victim, go ahead, go ahead. Wait a minute, any guy who listens to this and buys into the rhetoric that's being sold, hear them out. But if you buy it, you sound like a victim. That's what you sound like. When somebody talks like that, everybody's this, and everybody's that, and everybody's that, you sound defeated, you sound like a victim, you sound weak.

• 2:08:09Patrick Bet-David?

  A guy, you know what it's like, it's like when I ran an insurance business for the longest time, and my guys would come to me Monday morning, and they would say, you know what it is? All these guys with leads and insurance, there are no more people that want to buy life insurance. Haven't you seen the stats, and they're just, life insurance has been declining. You know when I started a life insurance company in two thousand and nine? Do you know what was going on in two thousand and nine? Do you know what was happening with insurance companies like AIG? What was going on with AIG in two thousand and nine? AIG's about to go out of business. Tarp, recession, trouble. Do you know what data came out, saying that the life insurance industry went from five hundred thousand agents to a hundred and seventy-four thousand agents? Life insurance is a dying industry, you know why? Because the old timers that made a lot of money, guess what they're not doing? They're no longer training new people. And that's what they're doing, they're no longer training them, and guess what?

• 2:08:54Patrick Bet-David?

  And I said, you know what, what percentage of agents are women? Seventeen percent, you're never gonna be able to get women to sell insurance. Oh, really? Yeah, okay, well, look, I mean, I saw how. Buyers and customers will receive the sale coming from a woman versus a man. And I think there's a lot of market. If there's 174,000 agents right now, we used to have a half a million more. There's gotta be a major demand for insurance because I looked at the data and I said, that's what we're gonna, we're gonna build an insurance company. While my competitors were saying there's no more market for life insurance, we licensed 50,000 people and sold the business for a quarter of a billion dollars.

• 2:09:28Adam Sosnick?

  Mm hmm.

• 2:09:29Patrick Bet-David?

  While I'm around people that sound like you talking about insurance and there's no more need for it. What's the point? Is what you're saying with Tinder, with all these dating apps, making it tougher for guys to find girls because they're easier? You don't know how many people they've been with. Oh, yes. Is it tougher? If I go on a date right now with Tinder and the script is, you know, you know, you're the first guy I've gone on a date with Tinder. You think I believe that? Of course not. But where am I looking? Versus if I'm really interested and wanted to get married, guess who I'm talking to? The people around me. I'm getting in different communities. I'm going to different markets, just like if an insurance. If you want to sell a 20 million dollar life insurance policy and you want to go to people that are rich,

• 2:10:13Patrick Bet-David?

  do you think you're gonna find them at a nightclub? Or do you think you're gonna find them at a country club? Do you think you're gonna find a 20 million dollar life insurance policy going to a Starbucks? Or do you think you're gonna find it going to the hotel we were at, which was whatever that hotel was? If we go to Four Seasons or if I go to networking at Mar-a-Lago, if I go, where do you think I'm gonna find these types of clients? You think having lunch at Mar-a-Lago, maybe I'm gonna be around some clients that can do some premium financing? Yes. It's where you go to look for them. So your points you're making, although they may be valid because accessibility is more prevalent today than ever before, but prostitution and all this stuff has been around for a very, very long time. To sound like a victim and revert back to the sauce talk, talking point that you had 24/7,

• 2:10:57Patrick Bet-David?

  of course you ain't gonna get married. And that's okay. By the way, I don't care if you never get married. But the idea of playing the position of, I'm gonna, I wanna have a family, and you talk like this. I don't know if I'm sometimes you talk like this. Who are you? Like, you know, we had this conversation a year and a half ago when I said the following. It's so hard to do. It's so hard to do this message here.

• 2:11:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Whenever you give a message and you watch, like we're in a room. And I'm talking to my guys. And they're saying to me, well, Pat, we don't think we should have a a full timers meeting on the first of January. I don't know why you do that every year. Every year on January 1st, I would host an full timers meeting on the first at 8 a.m. And I'm running an office, sales agents that are mainly in their mid to late twenties, some of the early thirties. Who the hell in their twenties wants to go to a manager's meeting with a freaking crazy guy named Patrick Bedavid? January 1st at 8 a.m. Who do you think wants to go to?

• 2:12:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Nobody.

• 2:12:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Nobody does. Nobody does. But that was my way of lowering the number of DUIs my guys would get. Cause I know what happens on December 31st. Cause I used to party a lot back in the days. So you know, when we're having a conversation, you know what the conversation will be like or what? So what time you think we should have this meeting? I think we should start it at 11 a.m. I think we should do barbecue and start it at 10 a.m. I think we should do, what's going on guys? What is that?

• 2:12:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, it's something else. It's our notes from today.

• 2:12:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. I think, I think we should play that noon and do barbecue for everybody. And then you know how many people in the room would agree that we should do it at 8 a.m. Less than 5%. And guess what I'm doing a meeting at? I'm doing it at 8 a.m. 95% of people hated me for it. I'm still hosting a meeting. And I wasn't married. I didn't have kids. I, it wasn't like I'm a married gong. You don't understand what it is to be, I was as single as one could be. And I'm still hosting a meeting.

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• 2:13:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Right, people showed up. And then we held a meeting. It was always the best meeting ever because it would be a high, high level of preparation. Be very careful who you're entertaining that's validating your point to make you feel like you're validated. Be very careful what mob makes you think you're right. Be very careful what community gives you the attention you need for you to feel like you're the right guy. You're right on this. Be very careful. Who do you want to win over? There are certain people that have no interest in winning over. You know, and, and this has been for, around for a long time. When I didn't want to get married, guess what I want to go to? The places you go to. When I eventually wanted to, I wanted to find a different community. Different lifestyle. Different people that have made different choices.

• 2:14:22Patrick Bet-David?

  And then you sit there like, okay, let's see what's going on here. You know, that, that, that's a very big difference. So you can go off and say all this stuff and, you know, entertain and so awesome and all this other stuff. It's not a mature statement and it's a victim message. I know you're not going to like me saying that to you. It's just the truth. You say, well, it's not fair. What's not fair? It's not, you know, it's this, they're like this, this is what's going on out there. And this is what the single guys are going through. And yes, I am the face of the single guys that agree with me on this here. There's nothing like family. There's nothing like you working hard to find something you're looking for and having to go against 80% of people that disagree with you. Nothing like it. And by the way, getting married, very hard. Hardest thing you'll ever do.

• 2:15:07Patrick Bet-David?

  I will only do it once. I've said it 15 years straight. If this doesn't work out, you will never see me get married again. Ever see me get married again. I'm only going to get married once. I'm not doing it twice. That's me. Some people do it two or three times. But for me, it's one thing I'm doing once. I got the four kids, I got the family. It is what it is. But the audience and the victim of language.

• 2:15:27Adam Sosnick?

  I don't recommend it to anybody, but some tells me you got a rebuttal here. Well, yeah, I do. Um, because dude, if there's anybody that can take heat, it's this guy over here. I'm sure the chat's going crazy. I'm sure. Oh, I guarantee you, I guarantee the chat's on your side. No, maybe they're not. I don't care. Oh, I'm not even looking at, but I guarantee the chat is saying. Go back to that picture of Rachel Zegler. Yeah. Because Pat, if I'm gonna listen to you, I'm gonna say entrepreneurship, building a business, marriage, kids, there's values, principles, religion, God, there's so many things I'm gonna listen to PBD on. But you've been married for 15 years? You don't know what it's like. This is the girl that most guys are dealing with these days.

• 2:16:11Adam Sosnick?

  Such an annoying angle to take for you. But it's true. No, it's not. So you know what's interesting about me? Is that I'm not soft and I'm not gonna say you're right because you're my boss. You're right. I'm gonna say, this is what I feel. Yeah. And let me tell you something. Most guys are saying, hold on, I'm dealing with either a boss babe who doesn't want to deal with an average guy because they've become the man that they want to become. Yeah. Right? I mean, I know you're a data guy.

• 2:16:39Adam Sosnick?

  It's gone up 10% in the last 20 years. Now more women than ever are single. So you have a girl who's more focused on her career and based on hypergamy, if you don't make a certain amount of money. Don't confuse the two. But then the second one is, then the second one is, you're dealing with a girl who's doing all the hoe stuff out there. Why do you think that our friend Andrew? Been around forever. No, no, no, because the internet's only been around for 20 years. Why do you think Andrew Tate has such a big following? Because he's talking about getting married and being, living happily ever after? Or he's basically saying, guys, the hoes are out there. Let the hoes be hoes. Do what you want with the hoes. This is literally what he says. But don't marry them. Don't marry them.

• 2:17:23Adam Sosnick?

  He just had a viral clip go out there with our friend Sean Kelly. He goes, they're gonna do what they're gonna do, but don't make the mistake like that schmuck who married Riley Reid and bringing this chick who gets. DP for a living, home to mom.

• 2:17:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Who the hell.

• 2:17:38Adam Sosnick?

  Don't make that mistake.

• 2:17:40Patrick Bet-David?

  You're taking, you're taking the exception and making that the majority.

• 2:17:44Adam Sosnick?

  No, but that is what is becoming more common.

• 2:17:46Patrick Bet-David?

  It's not about being more common. Adam, the more and more I think you about to have a breakthrough, the more easily you're flattered and influenced and revert back to old way of victim thinking.

• 2:17:58Adam Sosnick?

  You're making this about me?

• 2:17:59Patrick Bet-David?

  It is though.

• 2:18:00Adam Sosnick?

  And I don't give a shit. I'm gonna do what I wanna do and I'm gonna be okay.

• 2:18:03Patrick Bet-David?

  No one's saying what.

• 2:18:04Adam Sosnick?

  I'm talking about the general man in society.

• 2:18:06Patrick Bet-David?

  No, the general man in society.

• 2:18:08Adam Sosnick?

  Is struggling right now.

• 2:18:09Patrick Bet-David?

  No, the general man in society.

• 2:18:10Adam Sosnick?

  Is struggling.

• 2:18:10Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm not telling you.

• 2:18:11Adam Sosnick?

  They're broke, they're not getting laid, they're out of shape, they're sloppy, they're playing video games, and they're dealing with women who are basically saying unless you have a yacht or a boat or a mansion, I'm not gonna deal with you. And they're like, oh my god.

• 2:18:23Patrick Bet-David?

  First of all, the general man in society is not living near somewhere where there are yachts. You're in Miami, Miami's not America.

• 2:18:29Adam Sosnick?

  Use that as a metaphor.

• 2:18:31Patrick Bet-David?

  No, the point.

• 2:18:31Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, unless you have a pontoon in Lake Minnetonka, I'm not hanging out with you.

• 2:18:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, Adam, whatever you're talking about, that's victim language to me forever.

• 2:18:39Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, okay.

• 2:18:40Patrick Bet-David?

  It's the victim language.

• 2:18:41Adam Sosnick?

  I guess I'm a victim.

• 2:18:42Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, for sure you are though. In this context, you are.

• 2:18:45Adam Sosnick?

  Tell me why I'm the victim here.

• 2:18:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Because you're.

• 2:18:46Adam Sosnick?

  Cause life's pretty damn good for me.

• 2:18:48Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, because when I was 23 years old, I said I would never meet at 23 years old. If my daughter came up to me and said they're dating me at 23 years old, I would say I'm not ready to have you marry a guy like that. And I chose to change. If you increase your market value, your options go higher.

• 2:19:04Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 2:19:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Then you get to pick and choose.

• 2:19:06Adam Sosnick?

  Clearly.

• 2:19:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Who can do that? What man can do that?

• 2:19:08Adam Sosnick?

  Me.

• 2:19:09Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, what man can do that?

• 2:19:10Adam Sosnick?

  A guy who's made it in his life that has status, that has money, that has credibility. I'm not even being arrogant.

• 2:19:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Hear me out. What man can do that?

• 2:19:20Adam Sosnick?

  What do you mean?

• 2:19:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Every man. What man can change to increase their value?

• 2:19:24Adam Sosnick?

  Every man can or should, but they don't.

• 2:19:26Patrick Bet-David?

  But that's their problem.

• 2:19:28Adam Sosnick?

  I agree.

• 2:19:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay then, so I'm not gonna feel sorry for you.

• 2:19:31Adam Sosnick?

  But I'm not, you're not, I'm not.

• 2:19:32Patrick Bet-David?

  To you, to them.

• 2:19:33Adam Sosnick?

  Do you know what the black belt community is?

• 2:19:34Patrick Bet-David?

  If a guy comes out and is sitting there and talking about, well, you don't know what the market's like out there. Sitting in a plane, you know, video games 3 hours, and you deserve exactly what you're getting.

• 2:19:43Adam Sosnick?

  I agree.

• 2:19:44Patrick Bet-David?

  If you're sitting. After gaining seventy-five pounds and you're fat, you're saying the market sucks. You deserve, if you're not improving reading books, instead you're reading some nonsense.

• 2:19:51Adam Sosnick?

  Fully agree.

• 2:19:52Patrick Bet-David?

  So to me, I don't feel sorry for that guy.

• 2:19:54Adam Sosnick?

  But, so that guy's being the victim.

• 2:19:57Patrick Bet-David?

  That guy's being the victim.

• 2:19:57Adam Sosnick?

  So how am I being the victim?

• 2:19:59Patrick Bet-David?

  By you.

• 2:19:59Adam Sosnick?

  Because I've done all the things that you've told people to do. Make money, get in, get in good shape.

• 2:20:04Patrick Bet-David?

  No, but.

• 2:20:05Adam Sosnick?

  Increase your market value, increase your status, increase your network. I've done all those things. So now I'm, I'm, I'm receiving the benefits of doing that. Because I'm not settling down right now.

• 2:20:15Patrick Bet-David?

  No one's, Adam, the biggest criticism towards you is your level of hypocrisy and not being able to make up your mind. For example, if you say, "I wanna be a playboy the rest of my life." Keep living the life you're living. That's your choice. Keep living it. But don't sit here and say, "Well, let me tell you, this one girl used to be this." I'm playing all these videos and just a week ago I had a conversation with you about how we talk over, you know, certain things we say. You do it again the following week, after I had a conversation with you last week.

• 2:20:48Patrick Bet-David?

  After Sarah Huckabee Sanders looked up to him. I told you, I don't like that. So if you wanna go do something else on somewhere else, do it. Don't do it in a place like this, and I've told you this fifty times. You lack respect in the way you communicate sometimes.

• 2:21:01Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, I apologize.

• 2:21:02Patrick Bet-David?

  And I told you this how long ago? How long ago was this when I had this conversation? And you talk like this, it's like the guy's got two daughters sitting here. Okay, there's a part of a little bit this that respect goes a long way. And by the way, I can sit here and talk to Andrew Tate, have a phenomenal conversation with him, and I don't agree with his lifestyle, and I can sit there and say, "That's what you choose to live." Do it.

• 2:21:22Adam Sosnick?

  Why don't you push Andrew Tate like you're pushing me right now?

• 2:21:24Patrick Bet-David?

  No, because, I have pushed Andrew Tate.

• 2:21:27Adam Sosnick?

  Not like this?

• 2:21:28Patrick Bet-David?

  No, because for you, you want to have the family. He said he doesn't want to. You say you do. So you're like this guy, Andrew Tate, I just like, this is me. Great, go. I respect anybody that believes in whatever they believe in. Doesn't mean I have to choose to live the way you live.

• 2:21:43Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, but.

• 2:21:44Patrick Bet-David?

  For you, it's like this.

• 2:21:47Patrick Bet-David?

  You're so easily, what is the word that you're easily influenced? What is the, there's a word for it.

• 2:21:55Patrick Bet-David?

  What is the word that somebody can easily change their minds on? Not impressionable, it's a different, malleable. You're so easily malleable, like you can go hang out with a group here and then you'll change, and you can hang out here and then you'll change, you go hang out over there and you'll change. Make up your freaking mind, who the hell are you? What is your identity? What do you stand for? Every freaking week you change to somebody new. Who are you?

• 2:22:18Adam Sosnick?

  I don't, I fully disagree with you.

• 2:22:20Patrick Bet-David?

  I agree with, I fully believe that.

• 2:22:21Adam Sosnick?

  Because I say, one day I would like to have a family.

• 2:22:24Patrick Bet-David?

  No.

• 2:22:24Adam Sosnick?

  You're using that as against me to be like, well, where's your damn family already, bro?

• 2:22:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Nobody said that to you.

• 2:22:29Adam Sosnick?

  This guy's said this for the last five years.

• 2:22:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Nobody.

• 2:22:31Adam Sosnick?

  He doesn't have anything.

• 2:22:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Nobody.

• 2:22:32Adam Sosnick?

  Give Vinny the same five that you're giving me.

• 2:22:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Nobody said that to you.

• 2:22:35Adam Sosnick?

  Keep that energy with Vinny.

• 2:22:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Because.

• 2:22:36Adam Sosnick?

  When you're trying to get him a girlfriend on my neck.

• 2:22:38Patrick Bet-David?

  But Vinny, the difference between you and Vinny is Vinny wants to have a family and Vinny doesn't want to go to the clubs, 11 nightclubs 24/7. He doesn't. He doesn't want to live that life.

• 2:22:51Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 2:22:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Period.

• 2:22:52Adam Sosnick?

  That's Vinny's choice.

• 2:22:52Patrick Bet-David?

  And that's Vinny's choice. Guess what? I respect his choice because he's standing his ground that this is what I want to do.

• 2:22:58Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 2:22:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny wakes up in the morning, Vinny chooses to read the Bible. Not because I told him to read the Bible, because I don't read the Bible in the morning. That guy does, he's the example to him. I'm not the guy to say, you better read your Bible in the morning. That's a bad example, I don't do that. So I can't sit there and claim to do something that I'm not doing myself. Biggest criticism to you is make up your damn mind and stand up for something already. Make up your damn mind and stand up, stand up for something already, truly for you. The audience sitting there, so, although, let me tell you, he's right, you don't know what the girls are like after, you don't. Girls have been like that for as long as I've known girls.

• 2:23:28Adam Sosnick?

  Not like this today, Pat.

• 2:23:29Patrick Bet-David?

  They've been like this for as long as I've known girls.

• 2:23:31Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, not like today, Pat.

• 2:23:33Patrick Bet-David?

  You can say not like today.

• 2:23:34Adam Sosnick?

  I, I, I wish I could just have that in my DNA to say, look, Pat's my boss, he's the, he's the man, and I'm not going to disagree with him.

• 2:23:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam.

• 2:23:43Adam Sosnick?

  I'm sorry, if I disagree, I'm going to say, I fully disagree.

• 2:23:46Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't care if you disagree, this are, are, one of our key words on the freaking company is.

• 2:23:52Adam Sosnick?

  Debate.

• 2:23:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Debate, but respectful.

• 2:23:56Adam Sosnick?

  Am I disrespecting you?

• 2:23:57Patrick Bet-David?

  The way you're presenting your argument is disrespectful.

• 2:24:00Adam Sosnick?

  I don't think it is.

• 2:24:00Patrick Bet-David?

  I think it is.

• 2:24:01Adam Sosnick?

  Because I cursed one time, I apologize.

• 2:24:03Patrick Bet-David?

  No, it's because I had a, I had a talk with you.

• 2:24:05Adam Sosnick?

  But my argument is not wrong.

• 2:24:06Patrick Bet-David?

  I had a talk with you.

• 2:24:07Adam Sosnick?

  Because I cursed one time, and I apologize about that.

• 2:24:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Your argument for a person that wants to live that life is not wrong? Yes, if you want to live that life. And I'm telling you, it's a victim man's life. Let me put it to you this way. If, if, if I date a girl. She leaves me, she does something to betray me. And leaves me for another man with more money. Am I the victim? Am I the victim?

• 2:24:34Adam Sosnick?

  If you have a victim mentality, maybe you are. If you're like, I'm gonna get back, get back out there, dust off myself and get out there, you'll be fine.

• 2:24:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Give the ownership for that woman to see me as a victim. I will never give it that credibility.

• 2:24:47Adam Sosnick?

  I agree with you.

• 2:24:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Perfect. So for you, you're saying, well, let me tell you all the girls, that's all the girls, all the girl that. It's a victim's language.

• 2:24:52Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 2:24:53Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know what just happened to the mic. Something happened to it, it popped. So whatever you guys did in the back, it just popped here for me. Okay.

• 2:25:00Adam Sosnick?

  Well, I apologize for cursing.

• 2:25:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Do, do, do, do, do, guys, guys.

• 2:25:02Adam Sosnick?

  And I want to say it publicly. I, I think this was a very much needed conversation. I think, um, the way that you and I interact on camera, even off camera, is, uh, very important. I mean, we can have a great time together and then we can argue and we can go back to neutral.

• 2:25:20Patrick Bet-David?

  I had a conversation, okay, with a couple of friends this last week. And I told them very simply, uh, um, a word that gets me to realize who I can trust more or less. You know what is the, for me at least, this is gonna sound weird, some are gonna say you're crazy, and I don't blame you. It's okay if you say that, I'm okay with this. The older you get, you ought to have some values and principles that you're willing to die for. And the older you get, you should have things you stand for.

• 2:26:03Patrick Bet-David?

  For me, my number one is seeing another man that has a fear of God. And when you see another man fear of God, there are certain decisions they're going to make because they fear God.

• 2:26:19Patrick Bet-David?

  You get somebody else that doesn't have that fear, they're reckless. I have kids. When I have kids, I went on a date with my daughter the other night. We set the phone aside and she sat right here. We didn't even do a double date. We went just by ourselves. It was a father-daughter dance, whatever you want to call it. We've never laughed this hard together, never laughed this hard together. When she grows up, she may marry a guy like me.

• 2:26:49Patrick Bet-David?

  A guy that, you know, probably has a strong personality, a guy that's probably gonna be within my community where they're at. I pray to God to watch over her. I pray to God for her to have good people in her life. My job is to do whatever I can to make that environment more protective of her. Hopefully, set an example so later on, she's able to make some good choices in her life. It's so much easier and attractive to just live a life of just for me. It is a lot easier life. Trust me, if I right now chose to drop everything I got going on with the family and the kids and everything, I would have way more time to run my companies. I'd probably make a lot more money.

• 2:27:33Patrick Bet-David?

  And I'd probably have a more fun life. Living a selfish life. There's no way in the world that's gonna be fulfilling, to me. Others can live it, and guess what? More power to you. But what do you stand for? Until you can't get a paper and pen and write down what you stand for and everything's about, "They're this, let me tell you, Pat doesn't know this, and da-da-da-da, for me, the host of..." Alright, cool, live that life. You know, and the way you live, you're gonna attract that audience. Whoever connects you, you're attracting people like yourself. What you tell them, you're gonna get them to live the life that you've lived. Versus giving them a different direction and saying, "You may want to consider this." That's how I'm wired. I don't have the problem with the debate. We do this all the time.

• 2:28:17Patrick Bet-David?

  We're a 24/7 debate environment. Guy comes up to me saying, "Hey, you don't like Adam, I hear you're gonna fire him." Nope, that's not been the case. I will tell you that the respect part is very important to me, and I've told you this many times. And that's not going away anytime soon. It's not. I respect you. Yeah, I just, it's not, not just respecting me, respecting the audience that comes and tunes into us. We're not everybody else's show. It's a lot of shows that's like, fuck this, screw this, F this, that's a, it's not, this is not the show. It's to show that let's try to make our argument in the most reasonable fashion and be entertaining at the same time if we can. While trying to maintain what? Respect. I don't want to lecture you, I'm just giving you my values. I'm cool with that. At this age, what I want to do.

• 2:29:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Anyways, okay. Rob, did we miss any stories? Cause I think we still have, uh, uh, two hours left. Well, it looks like Tom and Vinnie want to weigh in right now. No, no, they've been playing Tic Tacs over there and, and just looking at their notes. Thank you for that, Pat. Yeah, of course. Rob, what is, uh, what do we have tomorrow?

• 2:29:18Speaker 09

  Tomorrow, 9 a.m. we have the OpenAI whistleblower, Sacher Bellaji's parents, joining us on the podcast, and then Thursday, home team.

• 2:29:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Thursday, home team. Okay, guys, by the way, tomorrow's podcast, she did a podcast with Tucker Carlson, January 15th. She got footage from the officers' chest recording saying this looks like a homicide. And she gave us a bunch of documentation that'll be revealed tomorrow. This is the accidental, the sudden death of the OpenAI whistleblower that the autopsy says, uh, uh, suicide, but they went and hired a P I. And they come and do the recording and they say, I don't know if it's a suicide or not. There may be a second bullet there, but you'll see that tomorrow on the podcast when it's revealed at 9 a.m. Take care, everybody. God bless. Bye bye, bye bye.

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