Afghan SHOOTS DC National Guard, Candace's Macron Claim + Trump vs Seditious Six | PBD Podcast | Ep. 692

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick break down the DC National Guard shooting by an Afghan migrant, Candace Owens’ claims about the alleged Macron assassination attempt, and President Trump’s escalating fight against the“Seditious Six.” ------ 🎄VT BLACK FRIDAY SALE: https://bit.ly/43QADrm 📕 REGISTER FOR BPW 2025 - FRIDAY, DECEMBER 12TH 2025: ⁠https://bit.ly/3IU2YWx⁠ https://bit.ly/3IU2YWx Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kSVkso⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kJ71lc ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4kJ71lc 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:30Speaker 01

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• 1:10Speaker 02

  Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright? My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.

• 1:18Patrick Bet-David?

  You are a one of one?

• 1:19Speaker 02

  My son's right there.

• 1:20Speaker 01

  I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 1:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, listen, if you're joining us this morning live after Thanksgiving, I have so much respect for you. You're part of the crazy crowd. Because last night, you probably had a lot of turkey, gravy, all the good stuff that comes with it. And by the way, go Joe Burrow. Comes back and beats Baltimore and has a couple touchdowns, which I loved, I loved. And I was surprised that the Cowboys took out the Chiefs. Wow, wow, Mahomes had four touchdowns and played lights out. And we had a, we had a Turkey Bowl yesterday with a soccer tournament. We have a winner later on. I'll show the picture of the champions here at our property. But we got a lot of stuff that's going on. New York Times decides to do a story, Vinnie, saying that the president is maybe...

• 2:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Getting tired. What? Yeah, like he's tired, like his energy, his fatigue. It's over. So by the way, can I ask you everybody a question? What were you doing last night at, like this morning at 12:10? What were you doing this morning, midnight at 12:10? Well, there's a guy named President Donald J. Trump that wrote a novel last night. Some call it a tweet, okay? This tweet, Rob, if you want to put it up there, can you go a little bit higher? It is so long that multiple people asked Grok, can you please give me the Venezuelan version of this? The shorter version because of how long the tweet was,

• 2:46Patrick Bet-David?

  trying to tell everybody around the world, what are you doing at midnight? Me, Donald J. Trump at midnight, I'm writing a novel. I bet you're knocked out right now after all the turkey and the food that you ate. Who knows? Maybe that's what the case was. Joy Reid, okay, which I would say, I don't know a lot of people that have the natural like animosity towards the opposition like Joy Reid does, the bitterness, right? Maybe, maybe her and Michelle can compete for it sometimes because every time you hear Michelle, it's always like people are after her hair, they're after, nobody cares, just go live your life. You're young, you can do things, but Joy Reid comes out and says JD Vance may dump. She called his wife the brown Hindu.

• 3:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Wife for a white queen. She called JD Vance's wife a brown Hindu. Is that not racism? Brown Hindu, like brown Hindu. Why would you, who cares? He's gonna dump his wife. But that's Joy Reid for you said that. And by the way, Tom has a theory of why he thinks comments like this are being made. Putin convinced Trump to not send Ukraine Tomahawks to call a motion by Whitkoff. Trump backs Whitkoff after leak reveals he advised top Putin aide on Ukraine deal. Scott Jennings presses Democrat to name illegal order Trump issued. And by the way, Stephen A. Smith went off on a caller, lights out. He went off on a caller. And all I want to know, Stephen A., where'd you get that shirt from? But he went off on a caller, okay?

• 4:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Went off on a caller about that. And he was, he was, we have to play later on, Rob, for the audience to see this. FBI seeking to interview Senator Mark Kelly and other Democrats. Trump accused of seditious behavior. High school girl, uh, girls are shifting away from marriage and happily ever after. And obviously, we all know the tragic event that took place the last couple of days. The shooting, a man who was trained CIA in Afghanistan, who was here since 2021, goes up in DC, shoots two National Guard soldiers in the head while screaming Allah Akbar, and then one dies, she died, and the other one is in critical condition.

• 4:59Patrick Bet-David?

  And there's a lot of stories here. I've not seen President Trump do a press conference. This upset at people, the way he reacted to it. This is Thanksgiving, day before Thanksgiving. You have to watch these clips as we go through it. Our prayers goes out to that National Guard that served, who's no longer here with us. Imagine the day that happens. You're sitting there being thankful, and then boom, that's the news. What would that do to anybody? What a way to go. And we'd love to learn more about the family, so we can find a way to help support the family as they're going through this tragic times with what just took place. Next story, Candace Owens accuses Macron's of choreographing one and a half million

• 5:41Patrick Bet-David?

  dollar assassination plot against her. Deadly serious, she says. Candace Owens puts off her show for, puts off her show, puts her show off air after she claims the mail Macron tried to harm her and was tied to Charlie Kirk's debt. So that's that story. And then we got national, okay, we'll cover that. Alejandro Mayorkas once admitted not all of Biden's Afghans vetted in person. There is two videos that we're gonna watch today. One of them is with Lindsey Graham, when he is questioning Mayorkas, which you were talking about yesterday, Vinnie Hazard. And then another one we'll play for you as well, to see what happened here. Then there's a guy named Bill Kristol, who is a rhino, and he tweeted something

• 6:24Patrick Bet-David?

  about Charlie Kirk in 2021 that didn't age well. We'll share that for you as well to see, just a hack, a political hack, who is going around commenting things like that about a man, Charlie Kirk, who did so much for the youth of America. You just have to see this tweet. We'll play that for you as well here in a minute.

• 6:47Patrick Bet-David?

  And we got billboards using National Guardsmen to refuse orders from Trump administration sprout around the country. Cracker Barrel CEO says she felt like she got fired by America after redesign backlash. Lowe's CEO predicts home renovation on the rise in 2026. If this is the Lowe's CEO that I think it is, he's an absolute stud of a guy that family is. Meta employees compared themselves to drug pushers as company buried mental health harms to kids. Unsealed docs.

• 7:19Adam Sosnick?

  Weird.

• 7:19Patrick Bet-David?

  And we got a couple of other things I will play here. Netflix steps up charm offensive to buy Warner Brothers and a couple of other items. And anyways, we have that. And then over here, I got a couple of other stories. Tucker Carlson, I have a theory with Tucker Carlson with his recent interview with.

• 7:36Adam Sosnick?

  Nick Fuentes.

• 7:36Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no, Pierce Morgan. Yes, Pierce Morgan, I have a theory I'll share with you. Maybe it's off, maybe it's not, but have some thoughts on that as well. And with that being said, let's get into the podcast. Gang, it's Black Friday. Odds are maybe not our audience, but many people today are lined up to want to buy TVs on sale and all this other things. Here's what I learned a long time ago about Black Friday. I used to do that many, many years ago. And then I realized what I'm trying to do is increase my identity and support brands that match the values that I have. If a brand matches the value that you have, go support that brand. If it's not us, go to them. If it's us, support us. That's what we started doing.

• 8:19Patrick Bet-David?

  When I see local business owners do what they do here, I want to support them. And on Black Friday, there's good debt, there's bad debt. Every year when Black Friday comes, my suggestion, go buy an online course on how to do better in whatever skillset you're trying to learn. If it's business planning, if it's communication, if it's selling, if it's coding, whatever it is, invest into some online courses for yourself. So for us, this year, Black Friday, we're doing a couple of different things today. 30% discount on 99% of our items on the website. Some are even up to 70% discount. Okay. The only items that don't have that is the shoe because it's selling out every time we put them up, they sell out. So if you go on the site this weekend, you purchase any items, odds are you're getting 30 to 70% discount.

• 9:05Patrick Bet-David?

  And if you go on some of the offers that we have, it's just insane what things we got going on. But there's three special things. For anybody that purchases over $500, there's a mystery box. There's 19 of them left for those that place orders over $500. If you place an order over $500, these mystery box will be shipped to the first 200, 19 left. Number two, you place an order for over $2,000, which many, many people have already. You will get a shot to be in a drawing where we will pull your name. December 2nd is the last day. From today to December 2nd, we draw a name. That person will be flown in. Go to Casa D'Angelo with all of us here. Then we do podcast prep and then you're sitting right here next to me on the podcast and we're asking you about stories on Home Team.

• 9:49Patrick Bet-David?

  So, go to VTmerch.com, place your order. And Rob, if you don't mind going to the, some of the hottest items that we have, the one that I was talking about, if you can go back one page. This is the hottest item link that we'll have. Of course, it's the shoes. Those are the online courses, all the online courses, the Vault Conference, any of that stuff that we've had, bundle instead of 10K, you'll pay $997 for it. The shirt that I'm wearing, go a little bit lower, those shoes which are selling out. The Stefano Ritchie collaboration numbered ties that we have, the USA hat, go a little bit lower, Rob, the Faith Over Fear shirts that we have, the Yetis that are few left. So this link, Rob, if you don't mind putting it below so people can go and place their orders, the watch collection case that you travel with your three watches in there, just a bunch of great items.

• 10:34Patrick Bet-David?

  But this is the, if you're a wise shopper, this is the day to go to VTmerch.com, place an order, get gifts for folks on Christmas Day. That's going to be around the corner. Do your shopping at VTmerch.com. With that being said, let's get right into our first story. The first story is what just happened, the tragic event that took place to the two National Guard members, which this story here says are in critical condition after Washington DC shooting. Well, unfortunately, both were shot in the head. Bayan, Afghani national Rahmanullah Lakanwall, who came here in 2021, was a CIA-trained in Afghanistan.

• 11:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Prior to that, he puts two bullets in a National Guard's head. One of them dies, she's no longer with us, which we will recognize him here in a minute after President Trump's video. And the other one is in critical condition. And when he shot them, he screamed, "Allahu Akbar." Here's President Trump reacting to it. Go for it, Rob.

• 11:34Speaker 05

  I must unfortunately tell you that just seconds before I went on. Right now, I heard that Sarah Beckstrom of West Virginia, one of the guardsmen that we're talking about, highly respected, young, magnificent person, started service in June of 2023. Jeez. Outstanding in every way. She's just passed away. She's no longer with us. She's looking down at us right now. Her parents are with her. It's just happened. She was savagely attacked. She's dead. Not with us. Incredible person, outstanding in every single way and every department.

• 12:19Speaker 05

  It's horrible.

• 12:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Tom, thoughts on the story here of what happened, this tragic story?

• 12:26Tom Ellsworth?

  So I'm gonna go a little bit deeper. First of all, we're with you. We have parents that are so proud to see their daughter take the oath, join the National Guard, is on a patrol in Washington DC. And you have to remember what they were doing in Washington DC first. They were on patrol there, making a city safe, serving fellow citizens, making a city safe. And by all accounts, you had a city that was completely different for the average citizen that was there. And you had the mayor and other people having to admit it, not being covered in media, but having to admit it. And she goes out there to serve, and it's her first day of service. She gets paired up, because you have the patrols with the buddy system, and out there patrolling, just trying to keep it safe.

• 13:11Tom Ellsworth?

  And this trained individual with military training comes up and does execution-style hit on both of them. And it's horrifying. So my first thoughts is with parents that were so proud on one minute, but they're now thrust in the middle of national headlines and grieving the loss of their daughter. Now I get to what happened. I am really worried that we are in the early innings of a color revolution. I am really worried that this could be a false flag operation, that this guy was used by the intelligence community. I'm worried. Do I have facts? No. Do I have documents? No. But I am really worried when I see things like this that are designed to incent us

• 13:53Tom Ellsworth?

  to get up there. And when I look at color revolutions and false flags, they talk about delegitimizing leadership. Check. They're after Trump. They talk about making illegitimate, which is actually normal, governance. Check. They talk about, you know, cause the military to defect and get a small sect of the military willing to go against the leadership. Check. The seditious six, it's a playbook. And trigger defections within those groups. Check. So I see all this stuff, and you may say, hey, Tom, you're seeing shadows in the distance. I don't think so. I really worry that there's a color revolution going on. I worry that there's something going on, and that this could be a false flag op that's part of it.

• 14:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Because false flags are designed to get the public really angry about something so that they are okay with the steps that happen next. And this kind of scares me. I'm not alone. General Michael Flynn wrote a very long piece on it that says, Mr. President, things could be happening out here. And nobody is talking about General Michael Flynn being like the, you know, the conspiracy of the week guy. He's not. And he's out there talking about, we gotta be careful about this stuff and see what's really going on. But I'm, I'm really concerned that the news media-

• 15:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Very interesting angle you're taking, Tom.

• 15:10Tom Ellsworth?

  News media is more worried about-

• 15:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Very interesting-

• 15:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Whose fault is it for the immigration than what's behind it?

• 15:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Very, very interesting. So, Vinnie, I'll come to you. What do we know about the individual that killed one of these National Guards and shot the other one they had?

• 15:24Speaker 07

  So, so this shooter, Rahmala Lak, I don't even want to say, I can't care less. He was a CIA-backed Kandahar Strike Force vet, per leaked ID, and Ratcliffe, who's the director of the CIA, I believe, in a Fox interview confirmed that he has, he had, and I quote, "ties to the CIA as part of a partner." Force and Kandahar. Okay, so we know who this guy was, Pat. And I, and again, going to Thomas' point, God rest her soul. Can you imagine everybody was with their family, everybody was hanging out? Imagine that family's Thanksgiving. Take a second and just stop and imagine that. You're prepping for Thanksgiving, everything's happening, and then that happens. Are you gonna have a regular Thanksgiving dinner? Are you guys all gonna be having fun?

• 16:09Speaker 07

  No, because they have to do burial plans and funeral plans for this girl. So God rest her soul. Pat, I'm gonna go, I love where you went, Tommy. I'm gonna take another even step back. How is this guy here? And let's talk about that, all this. Besides the fact that they're doing, that she was doing her job, and the crime is significantly down and the people of Washington actually like it. This was all a plan, tactical invasion from Alejandro Mayorkas and the Biden administration, okay? Besides the open border, let's take that and put that to the side. How horrible was the Afghani withdrawal? Take a second and think about that, okay? Every, that was the way of Biden's first, at least he stopped the war. Did you guys see the videos of the worst withdrawal ever?

• 16:54Speaker 07

  And 60,000 of these people, Pat, and Rob, can you show the photo? I sent you on Slack of that plane. But guys, remember when the plane was taken off, Pat? People are running by that C-130. People were hanging on and jumping off and dying, okay? Um, that's it. This is Trump's tweet. This is part of a horrendous airlift from Afghanistan. Hundreds of thousands of people poured into the country, totally unvetted and unchecked. We will fix it, but we'll never forget what cricket Joe Biden and these thugs did to our country. And if you guys think about this, we bombed the hell out of a country, okay? Then you're gonna let-

• 17:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Who the hell hires like that? Who recruits like that? Who, who hired? Always bring it down to the most simplest concept. What company, if you ever started, would you just say, "Hire those 600 people, don't vet them, don't interview them, don't call references"? Common sense. So if anybody watches and says, "What's wrong with that? These guys are fighting for their lives", would you hire like that? Would you hire like that without running references, without running background checks, without running credit reports, without calling, seeing their resumes, without having them be interviewed by two or three people? Would you do that? That's what America did under Biden.

• 17:59Tom Ellsworth?

  That means we hired these people without any references to come here. And there may be your neighbors living right next to you, Vinny, I didn't want to interrupt you.

• 18:07Speaker 07

  No, no.

• 18:07Tom Ellsworth?

  But to me, it just doesn't make any sense.

• 18:08Speaker 07

  No, it's not interruption. That's called, you, you piggybacking, that's exactly it. You bombed the hell out of them for their poppy fields and Al Qaeda and all that stuff. How pissed off do you think, if you let 60,000 in? What would you say? 25% are like, F America, come back. And by the way, they did it on purpose, Pat. I'm telling you right now. There's no other explanation for why the border was wide open. And why would you let them in unless you wanted them to do exactly what the hell this piece of you-know-what did? You give them all cell phones and you go, hey, listen, go, welcome to America and just wait. If we need you, we'll call you. And the moment this happened, Tom, I want to go by the numbers. I went, where's George Soros? Is Soros linked to this?

• 18:49Speaker 07

  And automatically, George Soros linked NGO, World Relief is the name of it. Funded the settlement of the National Guard shooter. That Ramadan, whatever the hell his name is, in Washington State from Afghanistan. World Relief has received US taxpayer dollars through USAID. Okay, just, I knew he was going to be tied to it at some point. But let's just go back to the withdrawal. They were so proud, they wanted the headline, they rushed the country that 20 years we've been bombing them and killing their people. They left $85 billion worth of gear left in the hands of the Taliban. 75,000 vehicles, trucks, armored units, 600,000 weapons, more than 200 aircraft, night vision, drones, radios.

• 19:33Speaker 07

  That we armed the Taliban and then you let this guy come in and weird, he has ties with the CIA and he does this type of...

• 19:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Can I add one thing right in there and then finish what you're saying? I'm not interrupting, I'm adding something. Would the CIA or the intelligence community have been able to send that kind of military equipment over to them? If they tried to get it through Congress and appropriations? No.

• 19:51Speaker 07

  Oh, that, us, and them now.

• 19:52Tom Ellsworth?

  I've got an idea. Let's push all the military to withdraw and just leave it there.

• 19:57Speaker 07

  Yeah, and give them, and give them the...

• 19:58Tom Ellsworth?

  You got your stuff.

• 19:59Speaker 07

  Yeah, and give them the weapons. So I, enough of this, Gad said, Pat said a good thing, is this, this suicidal empathy, this, bring them in love. I'm sorry, guys, I am sorry. We cannot do this crap. You can't. We can't survive. And Trump just paused. I believe Trump just paused. On Thursday, he said he would suspend migration from what he called third world countries because, guys, and I'm sorry about your sadness. You know that saying, "A few bad apples ruin the bunch"? It's over, okay? Too bad. I'm sorry. The damage is done. 20,000 people are here. We don't know. And then, I know, Pat, we're gonna get to the videos. When Alejandro Mayorkas was in, and I sat

• 20:40Speaker 07

  in this chair, and I told you guys, with that stupid look he had, it was a purposeful invasion, and nobody said shit, and the majority of the Democrats were like, they kept quoting the Statue of Liberty. Bring them in, bring them in. Well, guess what? Now they're walking up to freaking American soldiers and shooting them in the head.

• 20:58Tom Ellsworth?

  I'll give you two. I'll give you two. Watch. The Dems wanted to bring in votes because they think they're just bringing in refugees that are gonna be turned into voters. The Dems think, "Oh, they're just refugees", right? And the intelligence community says, "You know what? We can hide right in the middle of this." The intelligence community is sending in the raisins and the muffin. The muffin is all the voters that the Dems are trying to bring in through this kind of invasion, immigration. They don't think they're right, and there are Dems that honestly do not believe they're bringing in bad people. They honestly believe they were just bringing in refugees. The intelligence community hides in the middle and says, "Guess what? In the middle of that shit, you know what we can do? We can hide our guys."

• 21:34Speaker 07

  Of course, of course.

• 21:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, I want you to play this clip, and then, Adam, I'm coming to you. So here's a president snaps at an individual, asking him a question, and says, "Are you a stupid person?" Watch this. Go ahead.

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• 22:15Speaker 01

  Now, more than ever, we need someone on our side. But Rob Whitman? Whitman's votes drove up costs, cut Medicaid, and risked 350,000 Virginians' health care to pay for tax breaks for himself and his donors. He's not on our side. Shannon Taylor will fight corruption, cut taxes, and bring down costs. This November, vote for Shannon Taylor. She's for us. Paid for by HMP, the HouseMajorityPac.com. Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee.

• 22:44Speaker 08

  ... reported this year that there was thorough vetting by DHS and by the FBI of these Afghans who were brought into the US. So, why do you blame the Biden administration?

• 22:55Speaker 05

  Because they let them in. Are you stupid? Are you a stupid person? Because they came in on a plane along with thousands of other people that shouldn't be here, and you're just asking questions because you're a stupid person? And there's a law passed that it's almost impossible not to get them out. You can't get them out once they come in.

• 23:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so that's his reaction. You can tell. He's pissed. By the way, when was this? This was yesterday. By the way, on Thanksgiving, he's working. On Thanksgiving, he's working and taking press conferences, not just pardoning the turkey, not just doing the camera-type of stuff that's kissing babies. He's sitting there answering questions with the crisis that's taking place. Imagine how he's feeling right now. Adam, your thoughts?

• 23:40Adam Sosnick?

  I'll tell you why this situation is just so unsettling, despite the fact that it happened on Thanksgiving. I totally understand why Trump is so pissed. I'll tell you why this is so unsettling. Because this isn't just another shooting. It's almost like a combination of every issue we face as a country culminating into one tragedy two blocks from the White House on Thanksgiving. So let me count the ways real quick. So this is evidence of a broken immigration and vetting system. Domestic terrorism, open borders, lone wolf domestic terrorism at that. Islamic terrorism, aka jihad, as he yells Allah Akbar as he offs two National Guardsmen. Let me count the ways, continue.

• 24:22Adam Sosnick?

  Mental health crisis, gun violence, anti-police, anti-ICE, anti-national guards, trained by the CIA. What? After a debacle of 20 years in Afghanistan, where we spent 20 years doing what? So the Taliban can reclaim their power there? Suspicious intelligence community. Two National Guards shot in the head, all while this foreign national Afghan is Illegal. Allah Akbar, as he shoots two National Guardsmen in the head on Thanksgiving. If I'm Trump, I'm pissed as hell, and any American should be pissed as hell.

• 24:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Now, let's do this, let's do this, Rob. If you don't mind, go into two interviews of Mayorkas, being interviewed, being asked about how many of these guys were vetted? And the way he answered those questions in the most pompous way, this is Josh Hawley's one of them. There's two of them. Okay, there's another one as well, Rob, but let's start off with that one first. Go ahead and play this clip. Is this him asking questions about how many of these guys were checked out? Okay, watch this.

• 25:21Speaker 09

  Procedure is an in-person interview for refugees or visa applicants. Now, you've testified that you're not doing those interviews.

• 25:30Speaker 10

  Not at all.

• 25:30Speaker 09

  That they're not happening.

• 25:31Speaker 10

  Not at all. You are correct, that we are not conducting in-person, full refugee interviews of 100% of the individuals.

• 25:41Speaker 09

  What percentage are you conducting?

• 25:42Speaker 10

  I don't have that information.

• 25:44Speaker 09

  What number have been interviewed?

• 25:46Speaker 10

  What we are doing?

• 25:47Speaker 09

  Wait, wait, wait, what number of the more than 60,000 brought to the country? What number have received an in-person interview before they came to the country?

• 25:53Patrick Bet-David?

  He's telling me this.

• 25:54Speaker 09

  Because you said 100% are screened, so what percentage have been given an actual interview by a trained official before they come to the country?

• 26:03Speaker 10

  When you're speaking of a full refugee-like interview, I don't have that data.

• 26:09Speaker 09

  By the way, are you following what's happening to people who've been brought to this country? On September 19th, a female US servicemember was assaulted by a group of male Afghan evacuees housed at Fort Bliss. September 5th, a report from your office, the DHS. From the US officials at intake sitters in Wisconsin identified numerous incidents in which Afghan girls have been presented to authorities as the underage wives of much older men. Other reports of assaults and rapes by Afghan men for Afghan girls. These are the, these are some of the folks who have been brought here because they haven't been screened because you haven't conducted interviews. Don't you think that's a problem? There are two things that can happen.

• 26:47Patrick Bet-David?

  That's that. That's that. Now, watch this next one. This is Lindsey Graham, and by the way, I, I, we can talk about the story all day, but we can go to what Charlie Kirk said about this, Rob. I'm gonna send you, if you go to Tom's Twitter profile, Tom's been doing a great job on Twitter. If you guys don't follow Tom on Twitter, go follow Tom on Twitter. He posted something about Bill Kristol. Bill Kristol retweeted a video. Did you find the video? Go, right there. So, Tom says, never forget, never let them forget what an irredeemable POS, and I'm sure you guys all know what POS is. So, Bill Kristol, go on him. Okay. And the post with, okay, so this is what Charlie Kirk said, August 16th, 2021. Rob, if you can play this clip, okay, watch this, folks. Go for it.

• 27:32Speaker 11

  Joe Biden's Department of Defense will accept 30,000 Afghan refugees into military installations following the collapse of Kabul. Boom. Political transformation. Let the country crumble. Do you know there's 5 million displaced people in Afghanistan now? This was all intentional. Joe Biden let it fall apart to now say, oh, I'm so sorry. I guarantee you, Joe Biden's speech this afternoon will talk about refugee assistance and relocation support. Now, Joe Biden's gonna be scrambling to make good on it, and the liberal media will love it. They'll say, oh, yes, okay, now I get it. Joe Biden is now fixing his own problem.

• 28:13Speaker 11

  Joe Biden is stepping up, and he's allowing a flow of people from the Middle East into America. Thank you, Joe Biden. You're such a hero, so benevolent, you're so respectful, you're so compassionate. Do you see what's going on here?

• 28:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, pause this. Now, watch what Bill Kristol, who is a rhino, who's a old-school...

• 28:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Neo Monger Neo Con, look at this. Almost every Afghan refugee will turn out to be so much better an American than Charlie Kirk.

• 28:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Such a stupid comment.

• 28:40Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, do you know who this guy is like? Last night, I'm asking all of you guys, who the hell is this guy? I'm going, I'm reading his, I'm reading his profile to see who he is. This guy had a heavy position. This wasn't a regular guy. He was a guy that, he was a neoconservative, of course, but he was in a Bush White House, National Security Think Tank, co-founded by Liz Cheney. And he was a Board of Emergency Committee for Israel, all these other things that you hear with this guy here. And you read him. He played a leading role in the defeat of Clinton Healthcare Plan 93, as well as advocating for 2003 invasion of Iraq. Advocate of invading, invading Iraq in 03.

• 29:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Flag carrier, he was.

• 29:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, Chief of Staff to the Vice President. Chief of Staff to the Vice President. This isn't a regular person saying something like that about Charlie Kirk. And then Lindsey Graham, who, you know, Vinnie said it correctly yesterday with Lindsey. Lindsey is not somebody that you sit there and you say, you know. But here's a very good moment that Lindsey had, Rob, if you want to play this.

• 29:39Speaker 12

  Was Afghanistan a successful withdrawal?

• 29:43Speaker 10

  Senator, the evacuation that the Department of Defense and the Department of State Led was historic.

• 29:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Historic.

• 29:54Speaker 10

  In evacuating so many individuals.

• 29:56Speaker 12

  Of those that are evacuated, how many were vetted before they got on the plane?

• 30:01Speaker 10

  Senator, it is our policy to.

• 30:04Speaker 12

  That's a simple question. How many of them were vetted before they got on the plane?

• 30:08Speaker 10

  Out of Afghanistan?

• 30:10Speaker 12

  Yeah.

• 30:10Speaker 10

  Cannot speak to that, but it is our policy.

• 30:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Can't speak to that.

• 30:13Speaker 12

  So you can't tell us how many people were vetted before they got on the plane to come to America?

• 30:17Speaker 10

  Oh, I'm sorry, if you're speaking of.

• 30:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, let me tell you why this is so annoying to me. So guys, I lived in Iran 11 years. I go to Germany, I live at a refugee camp. We waited since 1984 to get a green card. We find, you know how much vetting they had to do? Finally, in 1990, November 28th, we come to the States.

• 30:35Patrick Bet-David?

  My mom applied for the green card since 84 for us to come to America. We want to leave America, Iran, a long time ago because they didn't want me to serve the military. Just think about this. If, if, if you're running an apartment complex, you're the manager of an apartment complex, and you have 300 open units, what do you do to get those tenants in? Tell me what you do. Maybe you've never done the job. I've never done the job. What do you do? You vet the new tenants. Now, what is bigger than an apartment? A city. What's bigger than a city? A state. What's bigger than a state? A country. How many people came through? What was the number that came through during that time, Rob? I've heard some numbers from 18,000 to 71,000 to 34,000.

• 31:20Patrick Bet-David?

  I've heard so many of these. Tell me if you're running a country and you're the greatest country in the world, that everybody and their mothers is trying to get a social security card to America to come here because it's the greatest, the American dream. They want to come here. Why would the greatest country in the world just say, "Let them in here"? Whose neighbors are there going to be? 76,000 evacuated Afghans on a humanitarian parolees. Parolees. 76,000 people that came in. That's being conservative. Some are saying the number is 200,000. They're your neighbors. They're living in your community. There's, some of the guys are trying to blame it.

• 32:02Patrick Bet-David?

  They're saying the fact that these National Guards, the people that got shot and killed. This is on Trump. This is on Trump. This is his fault. If he wouldn't have put the National Guard out there in DC, this would have never happened. That girl would have still been, been here with us. Do you realize what a dumb argument that is? What a dumb argument that is. He is making the city safer for people on the left, right, and the center. And now they're saying, "Let's point him..." So, to me, Tom, what you just said about the color revolution at the beginning, something's going on here. Even yesterday, they asked them about Somalians. President Trump, you can tell already, he's like, he's not even having it. I don't know if you saw the clip with Somalians, Rob. If you don't have it, I'll send it to you.

• 32:45Patrick Bet-David?

  It's in the notes of when somebody asking Somalis have caused a lot of trouble. Is that the one, Rob? I think that's the one. Yeah, go for it. Watch this one here. Go ahead, Rob.

• 32:55Speaker 05

  Many of these people are criminals. Many of these people are people that shouldn't be here. And many of them have been gotten out. I mean, we've gotten out some, a lot of the people that, you know, we've taken a lot of them out of here.

• 33:06Speaker 13

  But many of them are legally, right?

• 33:08Speaker 05

  Yeah, I know, this deal story. Many are wonderful, yeah.

• 33:10Speaker 13

  I said, I said many are here legally, though. What should they think in terms of their problems?

• 33:14Speaker 05

  Well, they can't be happy, okay? They can't be happy. Because what's taking place between that? If you look at Somalia, they're taking over Minnesota. And they are...

• 33:25Patrick Bet-David?

  What's this got to do with Somalia?

• 33:26Speaker 05

  We got a lot of problems with the gangs, with all of the things taking place in Minnesota. We have an incompetent governor. Dope. We have a dope governor.

• 33:36Speaker 05

  They can't be happy about what's going on. And if you talk about the Afghans, you know, there's a problem because so many bad ones came in on the planes. They just walked in. Whoever the strongest people were physically in a way. But whoever the strongest, they got on the planes. There was no checking. They just swamped the planes. They took off. We had no idea who they were. Yeah, do you want to ask a question behind?

• 34:00Speaker 14

  Me? Hi, sir. How have you been? What did the Somalians have to do with this Afghan guy who shot the national...

• 34:07Speaker 05

  Nothing, but Somalians have caused a lot of trouble. They're ripping us off for a lot of money. There's a tremendous amount of money going back to Somalia.

• 34:15Speaker 14

  For terror?

• 34:16Speaker 05

  What the hell are we paying money to Somalia for? But they're ripping off our country at a level that few people have been able to see before. That's about the only thing. You talk about competence. We have Ilhan Omar, who does nothing but complain about our country and our constitution. And she comes from a country with practically, it's practically no country. It's devastated. It's crime-ridden. It's a mess. It's a disgrace. And we took their people at tremendous, we're not taking their people anymore.

• 34:48Speaker 07

  You know what's the most frustrating thing about this entire thing, Pat? The accountability that the Democrats, it seems to me that they can do anything that they want, all this invasion, everything, and nothing ever happens, Pat. And then the ones that get in trouble, Comey, Letitia James, Fannie Willis, they all just got, uh, what's it called? Their case is all dismissed. It's as if, it drives me crazy and I can't express this enough to anybody listening. I don't care. And it's politics. You people say I don't want to get involved with politics. Politics is involved with you. And I'm not naive, Pat. I'm not naive that the left is gonna get back in

• 35:28Speaker 07

  power, but it's our job and that's why our podcast is so freaking important. Try as hard and as long as we can, never let them have power again. Because the moment they get in, they're gonna do the same shit. They're gonna open the border, number one. If you don't think any Democrat person, candidate, that's not gonna be their first order of business, you know what they're gonna say? "We love, we love America, open it back up." Don't ever forget what they did. In Texas, they tried to put barbed wire. They sent, the White House sent bulldozers to pick it up and say, "Get your illegal asses in here." And I'm sorry, one, apple could ruin the bunch. And I, my heart goes out, as legal parents, you came in legally, so do my parents and my grandparents, they're messing it up for your whole freaking

• 36:12Speaker 07

  Afghan crew. And I'm sorry. So you want to get rid of people from third world countries? Do it. Enough is enough. Enough is enough. How many people have to get shot? This is the beginning. You nailed it, Tom. They're slowly starting to do it.

• 36:23Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, what's interesting about this whole thing, Tom, is the timing of it. Go ahead, Tom.

• 36:29Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, keep going. I'm on your thinking thread right now.

• 36:32Patrick Bet-David?

  What's strange about this whole thing is the timing of it. You take this, then you take what Mark Kelly said, that, "Hey, you know, don't take the orders, or you can question it, you can do this." And then Scott Jennings comes out and asks this one lady a simple question, because that's what they're trying to get to. Simple question. She does not know what to say. Watch this exchange here with the great Scott Jennings.

• 36:59Speaker 15

  The only reason that the FBI is even looking into this is to chill speech. That's exactly what it is. He wants these people to stop. He wants to, he wants other members of Congress to potentially, he wants to silence Democratic members of Congress and other elected leaders on speaking out against Trump. When it comes to-

• 37:16Speaker 16

  Wait, can I ask you a question? Stop what? You said they want them to stop. Stop what?

• 37:21Speaker 15

  They want them to stop speaking out.

• 37:22Speaker 16

  So you said speaking out against Trump. So you're saying that you believe that inherent in the video is that Donald Trump has given illegal orders?

• 37:29Speaker 15

  No, actually, what I will say about-

• 37:30Speaker 16

  Because what Abby argues is, is that they're just stating a fact, but you're saying it's speaking against Trump.

• 37:35Speaker 15

  They are stating a fact.

• 37:36Speaker 16

  If it's speaking against Trump, then you took the message the way they intended it. You took it the way they intended it, which is that Trump has given illegal orders and you can't name one that nobody else can.

• 37:44Speaker 15

  Hold on, let me just say that. Congress has a role in ensuring that there are whistleblower protections when people come out and speak out.

• 37:52Speaker 16

  So you believe there are illegal orders?

• 37:53Speaker 15

  When something, I'm not saying there is. I'm saying the Biden administration, I'm saying in the Biden administration-

• 37:56Speaker 16

  I believe there are illegal orders.

• 37:57Speaker 15

  There were whistleblowers. In other administrations, there have been-

• 38:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so the other guy says, "I believe there's illegal orders." But Stephen A. Smith, whom we had a very good dinner with this last week, great conversation. Great convo. Yeah, great conversation. Oh, gee. He has a caller calls in, and he breaks it down in three different areas in a most incredible way, wearing that phenomenal shirt. Go ahead and play this clip, Rob. Stephen A., where'd you get that shirt from? This is his Wednesday political show on Sirius. Yeah, watch this.

• 38:28Speaker 17

  Respectfully, Senator, what the hell are you doing? Looking into the camera and telling military men and women to ignore the Commander in Chief? How dare you? How dare you do that?

• 38:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, is this the caller? This is not the caller.

• 38:45Speaker 17

  That's right, I'm calling out. I never served-

• 38:47Patrick Bet-David?

  This is not the caller. So there's a guy that calls in, okay? There's a guy that calls in and says, "Go ahead, caller." And he goes straight to the caller. You'll see it. And you have to listen to this caller, okay? I have it. If you don't have it, I can text it to you. Is that the caller? No, this is it, Rob. Go ahead.

• 39:05Speaker 00

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• 39:37Speaker 17

  Greg, Alabama, you're live with Stephen A. What's up Greg?

• 39:42Speaker 18

  Stephen A., it's a pleasure to talk to you, my man.

• 39:44Speaker 17

  Thank you.

• 39:44Speaker 18

  I've been a big fan of you for years and years.

• 39:47Speaker 17

  Thank you.

• 39:48Speaker 18

  So, I'm a service member and I can't really speak too much on this, but if I decide a direct order from my commanding officer, we get Article 15, right? We, there's a whole thing we do, right? But for a Senator to say, to tell us service members to defy direct orders?

• 40:09Speaker 17

  Yes.

• 40:10Speaker 18

  Our commanders who we follow do not have a choice because if they defy those direct orders, then they lose their career.

• 40:17Speaker 17

  Thank you.

• 40:18Speaker 18

  So the Senator's asking us to lose our career.

• 40:20Patrick Bet-David?

  This point is made after, this point is made after he snaps at him. The clip is when he's calling him, what happened with Nazis, what happened with Nazi Germany, what happened with all this stuff? And then all of a sudden Stephen A. just blows up at the, at the beginning of that phone call that was made, at that call that was made. Watch this here. Go ahead, Rob.

• 40:40Speaker 17

  Eugene in Washington, you're live with Stephen A. What's up?

• 40:44Speaker 19

  Hey Stephen A. First off, I want to say I love your show, often listen to you. I do have, happen to disagree with you today on a certain point, especially when it comes to our democratic.

• 40:57Speaker 19

  Leaders that stood up and told the the servicemen that they could disobey illegal orders. And the reason why is throughout history, even going back to Nazi Germany, those people that obeyed illegal orders, when they say, oh, I was just obeying orders.

• 41:17Speaker 17

  Stop that. You stop. No, no, no, no, no. You stop that BS right now. First of all, don't bring up Nazi Germany on this show. When you're talking about American politics in the year 2025, we're not doing that to anybody on either side of the aisle. This is America. This ain't Nazi Germany. Stop it. That's number one. Number two, here's what I was saying. If you're gonna quote me, quote me accurately. Identify the illegal. Thank you. Orders you're talking about. Simple. You don't get to speak if you're a Senator of the United States who served in the United States Navy as a combat pilot and you're just gonna throw out innuendo and assertions without factual evidence to back up your claim. That's why they're investigating it.

• 42:01Speaker 17

  Military officials are different. This is not civilian. This is not the civilian life. You can't just do that. That's what I'm saying. He knows better. Now, that doesn't mean he committed treason. It doesn't mean he should be thrown in jail. But what it does mean is that Senator Mark Kelly needs to watch his mouth. If you're gonna accuse the President of the United States of giving illegal orders, you need to say what those orders are. Bingo. You need to be specific. And you need to make sure that you understand that as a former military man. Watch this. That regular court of law don't apply. It's military. Watch. It's the military.

• 42:45Speaker 17

  You understand military justice, code of military justice. This is what that is. You don't get to do that. That's what I said. Go ahead and speak.

• 42:58Speaker 19

  Okay, what I was saying though, those illegal orders could potentially be the Mediterranean bombings of those boats?

• 43:05Speaker 17

  Did he say that?

• 43:06Speaker 19

  It's against-

• 43:07Speaker 17

  Did he say that?

• 43:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Nope.

• 43:09Speaker 19

  No, he did not say it.

• 43:10Speaker 17

  That's what I'm saying! He didn't say it! He didn't say it! You gotta say it! You can't just blanketly go out there and accuse him-

• 43:18Patrick Bet-David?

  So you can pause it right there, so now watch.

• 43:19Tom Ellsworth?

  And apparently the caller doesn't know where the Mediterranean is. We didn't bomb boats in Mediterranean, we bombed them in the Gulf of America off the coast of Venezuela.

• 43:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Right, but when you're watching this, and you're watching the killing of the National Guard, all happen within a week apart. It makes you question a lot of things, Tom. What are you thinking right now?

• 43:39Tom Ellsworth?

  I believe we're in the first innings of a color revolution. I believe there's manipulation going on below the surface. I'm not gonna build a five-page treatise where I say, you know, this is what's going on. I'm not wired conspiracy that way. But I can see the facts, I can see a calendar, I can see outcomes, I can see the 2021 testimony in Congress, I can see Bill Kristol, I can see Lindsey Graham's question, I can see Josh Hawley, I can see Charlie Kirk, and then I see what's happening right here, right now, and I can hear, you know, the Al Qaeda Akbar, I can hear what they're saying. And so I step back for a minute and I'm like, you know, I got a problem here. I got a serious problem here because all of these things are lining up, and they're lining up the wrong way.

• 44:24Tom Ellsworth?

  And I think, if you made a pie chart of the Democrats, like a pie chart, and you said, "What percent just are doing it for Democrat power, and they're ignoring all the downstream effects", you probably have the huge percent, like 50, 60% of the Dems, "Hey, let's win the elections, let's get the people in here, let's do that." On the other hand, inside the rest of it, you've got people that have wanted the United States to join, you know, globalist organizations, the UN to have more power. There's no conspiracy in that. There are people that believe that the sovereignty of the United States should be adjusted, that our constitution should be adjusted or thrown out, and that we should join a more globalist-

• 45:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Organization Soros is on record. People are on record. So now you see all this and you see the funding. That's what I think. And it makes me very, very concerned when I see somebody like Mark Kelly, who went through, by the way, and let's remember Mark Kelly's family went through, you know, a senseless shooting. His wife was a member of Congress in Arizona. And got shot, you know, and, and, and has a permanent disability as a result. Something Gifford, right? Gabby. Gabby Gifford. Gabby Gifford has a permanent disability. So, you know, it's not like Mark Kelly hasn't seen this, but to cross the line like that, I believe that the label, the seditious six

• 45:49Tom Ellsworth?

  is correct. This whole thing stinks. I hate the timing and I think all of it's coming home to roost, PBD.

• 45:57Speaker 07

  And, and notice how great, great point, Tom, and the fact that you mentioned the CIA and the color revolution. Notice that we're talking about the CIA working with the guy, the terrorist Afghan guy that shot the, the National Guards woman. Guess what? Alyssa Slotkin, she's one of these seditious six. She's ex CIA. She admitted, like Democrats, they, there was no illegal orders. Okay. And like people, a lot of people, Pat, also, and mind you, you know why Mark Kelly's doing this? You know why they're opening? Cause they know at the end of the day, nothing is going to happen to them. Nothing. Nothing is going to happen to them. Which one is this one, Rob? Uh, this is. Which she admits? Yeah. Play that real quick, Pat, cause I want, I want.

• 46:34Speaker 20

  This is important. This is very important. Right now, do you believe President Trump has issued any illegal orders?

• 46:42Speaker 21

  To my knowledge, I, I am not aware of things that are illegal, but certainly there are some legal gymnastics that are going on with these Caribbean strikes.

• 46:50Speaker 07

  Okay.

• 46:50Speaker 21

  And everything related to Venezuela.

• 46:52Speaker 07

  And this, and this is it, guys. The, and here's the, you know why they did what they did, Pat? This is the, this is the point I want people to know. You're gonna make, we have 2.1 million active duty and National Guardsmen. You're gonna make them, because think about the percentage, Pat, what, 3 to 5% that hate Trump, maybe, maybe 6%? They're going to question orders. You're going to question orders. You don't have, you take your orders and you freaking follow them. That's the military, and this is the problem, Pat. They weren't, they weren't just treasonous and seditious. There's a third statute I want people to, to pay attention to. Federal law, 18 USC, 2387 reads. Activities affecting armed forces generally criminalizes knowingly advising, counseling,

• 47:34Speaker 07

  or urging any member of the United States military to disobey, desert, or refuse lawful orders with intent to interfere with military operations or loyalty. That's what they did, okay? And the penalty is 20 years, up to 20 years in prison, and $250,000 fine, okay? They violated the law plain and simple, okay? And this is the ex-CIA chick telling them to undermine the authority of the Commander in Chief. All right, we have a chain of command, guys. You break, it goes from E1 all the way to, to E, um, oh, oh 9? Mike, is that what it is? Oh 9 is, oh 10 is, okay. You break that chain, we fall apart. I worked at a nuclear missile base.

• 48:17Speaker 07

  Could you imagine the missileers, God forbid, we go to war and it's a nuclear war? You want the people that are turning the keys to protect us, to knock nukes out of the sky, to go, "Hey, is this legal or is this illegal?" That's what they're doing. That's what they're doing and they're undermining it, okay? And this is a very, you want to talk about slippery slope, Pat? That's the slope. That's the slippery slope, and they know what they're doing, but with the justice system with the, we have, nothing is gonna happen to these people.

• 48:42Adam Sosnick?

  Well, I'll just add this. This is all just symbolic of what the Democrats stand for at this point. They don't have a game plan of their own. Their only game plan is just reacting and doing the opposite of what Trump is suggesting to do. So, i- is Trump anti-American? Hell no. Are Democrats anti-American? Well, if they're taking the 20% position on a Trump-American stance, then they're gonna fall into the category of anti-American. So, earlier this week, we played the whole montage of these politicians basically telling military not to follow orders, and now when they question the politicians, they go, "What was the illegal orders specifically?" Well, I don't really have one. So you're making this commercial basically saying, "Don't obey Trump's illegal orders."

• 49:27Adam Sosnick?

  But you can't name one illegal order.

• 49:30Speaker 07

  Pat, did you see this?

• 49:30Adam Sosnick?

  It's mind blowing.

• 49:31Speaker 07

  Did you guys see these billboards in North Carolina? Read, really, uh, did, did you go airborne just to pull security for ICE? Not, and what's that about to say? What, what's the actual website, Robbie? Not, not, hold on, I can see it better.

• 49:46Adam Sosnick?

  Probably should trim those trees a little bit.

• 49:47Speaker 07

  NotWhatISIGNEDUpFor.org. And then look at the website, Rob. I sent you this as well. When you click on that website, uh, I sent you the link on, um.

• 49:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, wait, pull, for people who are not familiar with the military, who don't have friends or family that were in there. When you say pull in the military, it means pull a detail, means take an assignment.

• 50:03Speaker 07

  Yeah, exactly. Now, guys, and then if you click on the website, you saw the billboard, you have questions, you're not alone. Go ahead. But here's some proactive steps. Use encrypted, like, they want, this is where you get this whole whistleblower nonsense, Pat. Encrypted proton mail, Signal app, so they could say, "Hey, we got this, this, and this, and he's giving illegal orders." This is freaking dangerous, and they know what they're doing, Tom. They know what they're doing. And when you have this Slotkin chick, who is ex-CIA, who to me means you're forever CIA. These are the people that sold the dissent, and they tried to destroy the country from within. You're a freaking CIA chick. Nobody trusts your ass. Nobody.

• 50:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Robbie, do me a favor. Go to that website, and, and take that website, and go to, uh, who is, like, if you just happen, who owns this domain? You know what I'm saying? The domain lookup? Let's just do a quick domain lookup. I want to know if anything will come up on who is behind this domain. Okay? And put the domain in right there. If you go a little bit higher, go a little bit higher.

• 51:04Speaker 07

  Right.

• 51:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, search. Zoom in. Who owns this domain? When did they buy it? August 28th.

• 51:14Speaker 07

  August 2020, this is very new, right?

• 51:15Patrick Bet-David?

  They just bought this, so they've been planning on doing this for three months. Okay, so check this out.

• 51:21Speaker 07

  Beautiful.

• 51:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Take a look at this, you piece of mother- So they've been planning on doing this right before Thanksgiving for three flipping months. They registered on 8/28, okay? Updated on September 3rd, go a little bit lower, Rob. I just want to know who owns this domain.

• 51:39Speaker 22

  Just so you know, if this is all about Venezuela, which is what Elise has to say. Slotnick is saying, the first military strike in Venezuela was September 2nd of 2025. Four days before they even.

• 51:52Patrick Bet-David?

  They knew they were gonna do this. Go, go a little bit lower. Go a little bit lower. Can we see, no, go, not gonna tell us, no, keep going lower. What is that number? Let's call that number. But that's a number to that named.com website. Hang on, let me just call that number real quick. I don't think it is a, I don't think that's anything. I think it's.

• 52:10Speaker 22

  If you find the P O boxes, probably to a registrar or like a bulk, you know what I mean?

• 52:14Patrick Bet-David?

  What is that number, Rob? 7208009072?

• 52:18Speaker 07

  And there's another one that was above it, Rob. And we're doing like some nasty.

• 52:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so that's a domain. Okay, so, okay.

• 52:26Speaker 07

  But if they say Josh and something, Pat, do you see those names? Go up a little bit, Robbie. Go up, go, go, go, go, right there. Gene and josh.n s dot cloudfair dot com.

• 52:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so then if you, are there any names? Any names such as Josh or Gene tied to this website?

• 52:45Speaker 22

  Usually they use, um.

• 52:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so then this, by the way, this is what it makes me, Rob, can you tell them to turn off the A C? It's a little bit cold in here. So you know what it makes me think about?

• 52:53Speaker 22

  We're heating it up.

• 52:54Patrick Bet-David?

  No, let me tell you what I think about. Here's what I think is going on. August 28th, first attack to September 2nd, then, it's gonna sound crazy. The only way they know this, that an attack is gonna be taking place on Venezuela is either we already publicly announced it or somebody from the inside leaked it to somebody else.

• 53:10Speaker 22

  He's a leaker.

• 53:10Patrick Bet-David?

  And they said, let's get ahead of it and buy the domain and let's create this division.

• 53:14Speaker 22

  A leak in Washington. So there's a leak in Washington. Oh, my gosh.

• 53:18Patrick Bet-David?

  If that's the case, and this is what they did, and that's when you set up the domain, you're all dirtbags. That's what you are. You know who you are. You're a dirtbag for setting up something like this. You want to see division in America and shit taking place to the next level? You're a qualified. Dirtbag is what you are. And you know who you are for setting up something like this. A few days prior to this. If this domain had been set. By the way, when would we have not questioned it if when this domain was set up?

• 53:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, you were.

• 53:48Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no, no, actually, if it was a week ago.

• 53:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, yeah, even quicker.

• 53:52Patrick Bet-David?

  If it was, if it was two weeks ago, you would have said, all right, that makes sense because it was part of the whole thing.

• 53:57Tom Ellsworth?

  But they're all reacting.

• 53:58Patrick Bet-David?

  That it's five days before the first time, because it's August 28, 29, 30, August is 31 days, 31. First, second, six days before this.

• 54:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Come on.

• 54:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, there's something, there's something going on here with this. Anyways, uh, uh, what a freaking weird. Rob, did anything come back tied to those names? Because I pulled it up right now to see if there's any Gene and Josh attached to it.

• 54:18Speaker 22

  No, I believe it's just CloudFlare is the, uh.

• 54:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Account behind it?

• 54:23Speaker 22

  Well, yeah, it's a service that connects the website to some type of.

• 54:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, they had an outage two weeks ago. It affected a lot of people. They're, they're a security layer.

• 54:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so let's, let's, uh, let's go to the next story. This, this is, this is, uh, folks, just be aware. And by the way, this next story I'll go to, I don't know how much this has to do with it. Uh, Joy Reid said JD Vance's wife, like JD Vance made dump. Ready on what she said? The brown Hindu wife for a white queen. This is what Joy Reid just said. Play this clip. This is what she had to say.

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• 56:00Speaker 23

  They can't have the successor to MAGA be the guy with the brown Hindu wife. They're also Christian nationalists. That ain't gonna work. That's why he's throwing his wife under the bus, poor Usha, or she's in on it, right? And playing slap and tickle with Erica Kirk. Oh, my God. Yeah, she's like in her Tammy Faye era. Okay, holding on the back of his head and rubbing on his head. Some weird shit. Baby. Loving right is a liberal disgusting woman, bro. Look at them, look at them. You're not doing the right thing. You're supposed to be a widow. You in leather pants. That's what she wears.

• 56:34Speaker 07

  F Trump.

• 56:35Speaker 23

  Could you imagine?

• 56:37Speaker 07

  Free Palestine, free G C.

• 56:39Speaker 23

  Perfect fairy tale, MAGA fairy tale. Unoccupy Chicago. He sees the light, that he needs a white queen instead of this brown Hindu? I mean, I'm not saying that's happening. Right. Or maybe that Usha's not even in on it. Maybe she's, whatever, but that's one entrant.

• 56:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, so apparently Usha was seen without a ring on. And they went to, you know, that's probably what happened, all this other stuff. Who knows? But Tom, you have a theory on this, on what they're doing with Usha? By the way, just so everybody knows, how I feel, guys.

• 57:16Patrick Bet-David?

  A married woman shouldn't put her hands on the back of a man's head. If my daughter is doing me, this is me, you guys can't judge me and say, Pat, what the hell you talking about? What a freaking crazy thing. That's just how she's and greets everybody that way. My daughter, I would tell my daughter, babe, he's married. Don't put your hands on a man's back of their head. You're gonna make him uncomfortable or make her uncomfortable. No wife is going to like when a man puts, another woman puts their hands on the back of a man's head. So I don't like this right here. I don't want you guys to think, and by the way, we're fans of Turning Point USA. I'm just giving my thoughts. I'm, I know I'm gonna get shit, or you're never gonna be invited again, you know, but I'm not talking about that. All I'm saying is, I agree, that's a little bit too much to put your hands up there.

• 58:00Patrick Bet-David?

  It's not a good look with the Vice President. So, is Usha gonna be okay with that? Maybe, maybe she's not. But probably, what percentage of wives would not be happy if another woman put their hands like that on someone's, uh, on their husband's head? What percentage?

• 58:14Speaker 22

  Uh, mine's gonna take a chunk out of you with a driver.

• 58:17Patrick Bet-David?

  But I want you to actually think about it. No, no, I want you to think about it. Let's ask married people, okay? Rob, what do you think? What percentage of, uh, wives would say, babe, why is she putting her hands on the back of your head? What do you think the percentage is?

• 58:31Speaker 22

  Forty. Ninety? I don't, I can't imagine walking home and not having that conversation with my wife. Ninety percent of women would have a problem with that.

• 58:38Patrick Bet-David?

  So, fair enough. Having said that, so I understand that that's not good for JD's look, but Tom, you have a very interesting theory on what you're seeing that's taking place. Go ahead, Tom.

• 58:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep. Well, first of all, to, to, to top this off, you asked Rob, and I'll answer it as well. About two weeks ago, didn't you and I have a conversation? We were at a, uh, a business event, not one of ours, but it was a business event. And I said, wow, Pat, that guy's wife is a little touchy. She just met me and she was touching my shoulder.

• 59:06Speaker 07

  I mean, you're irresistible, Tom.

• 59:07Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, no, no, no, no, you know, they keep like this.

• 59:09Patrick Bet-David?

  No, Tom.

• 59:10Tom Ellsworth?

  While we were all talking.

• 59:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Construction.

• 59:12Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, no, no. I didn't feel comfortable with it, and I thought that she was being a little bit too, like, friendly and touchy with people. So, this is real, this is a real thing.

• 59:20Patrick Bet-David?

  We literally talked about this two weeks, all jokes aside, we did.

• 59:22Tom Ellsworth?

  We did. And we said, hey, I'm, I'm not comfortable with that. So, um... Here's what I think's going on. You, we've seen, we've seen the numbers on Kalshi. JD is over 50% probability on Kalshi and a lot of other places and polls. He is the guy. So guess what? That makes him the target. The Democrats are trying to figure out who they run. And they are in disarray internally. There's a lot of them. The establishment does not want Gavin Newsom. On record, they don't. They like Pritzker. Now, is Pritzker going to get the full support? No. But the point is they're in disarray, whereas there is a logical line that right now is happening on the Republican side.

• 1:00:06Tom Ellsworth?

  And even Rubio is stepping back. He has not said the words, "I will not primary JD." But he has said things that are supportive and they're showing unity, that maybe I'm not gonna, you know, run to be the top guy. I believe that what they are getting is they're getting their marching orders and we are seeing hit pieces on JD. There's been, "Oh, he uses profanity too much." Like he used at the Air Force Base, he was talking about Turkey. And he says, "You're full of shit. You don't like Turkey. How many other days during the year have you actually cooked an 18-pound turkey?" "Oh, listen to what he talked. That's not very statesmanlike." I believe the media is all in cahoots and they are being pushed by the DNC. We have to undermine JD. How do you undermine JD?

• 1:00:51Tom Ellsworth?

  You go, you go after him. You go after his wife. You go after him. You go after anything you can. You go after the fact that he was a little too... Is he loyal? He was always with Vivek and now he's not with Vivek. Is JD loyal? Has he supported him for governor? There's all this stuff going on. And I think Joy Reid is a tool and then she's been used more than she'll ever admit on things like this in the media. And I believe they're out there and this is a concerted campaign to start attempting to undermine JD Vance. Because they believe he's the target. When Trump's done, JD's the target. We have to figure out who our guy is gonna be, our woman, our candidate. But man, we gotta get after it and I think it's happening right now.

• 1:01:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I don't, I don't... And by the way, there's a lot of things. JD's about to get scrutiny in ways he's never had it before and it's well deserved. You're choosing to be a president.

• 1:01:40Tom Ellsworth?

  It's a test.

• 1:01:40Patrick Bet-David?

  And guess what? It comes with the territory. So you'll hear the questions. You know, his kids, like, you know, his kids are named, one of the kids is named Vivek. The other two are American names. Why did you, why did you allow your kids' name to be Vivek? One out of three. I think if it's like you get one, I get two, fine. You know, when you're married, I got four kids. We were kind of picking and choosing what names are gonna be. It's funny, we were talking about it this morning. Patrick Dillon, Brooklyn, Senna, Brooklyn, right? Okay, we're going through the names. Then his ties to Palantir, his ties to, uh,

• 1:02:09Speaker 07

  Peter Thiel.

• 1:02:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Peter Thiel. And so that part is gonna get investigated and deeper, and guys are gonna react to it. And they should. You're running to get the biggest job in America. People gonna wanna know, are you gonna be bought or not? Because President Trump is already a billionaire. It's tougher to buy him. But maybe JD is not, and coming out of college, getting a big job that he got right off the bat. Guys are gonna question it, and it's gonna go even higher. The level of scrutiny is gonna get higher. Expect a lot of weird stories to come out the next 24 months. And everybody in the market should scrutinize whoever's gonna get the big job. Your party, the other side's party, and that's all fair play. If you don't like it, don't get in the arena.

• 1:02:52Patrick Bet-David?

  It's kinda how this works. Like, when people send messages, and they, I'm okay with any of the messages of disagreement you sent. I'm just not okay when it's the messages that's, anyways, I'm not even gonna get into that. But, you know, some of the messages that are like about your family and your kids and death threats and stuff like that, I'm not, I'm like, that's just uncalled for. But to me, the moment you get on camera and you give an opinion, do not be afraid when people push back. And they disagree with you. Did you hear what that person said? Yeah, because I had an opinion on it. They have the right to react to what I had to say. That's open game. So, but to me, what Joey Reed did and what she's, what she said there, what happens with them, it's almost like every, do you see a pattern with everybody that? How many, when is the last time, Rob, a vice president or a president got a divorce?

• 1:03:38Adam Sosnick?

  No, it doesn't happen.

• 1:03:39Patrick Bet-David?

  When is the last time a vice president or president got a divorce while, after being in office? After being in office. It's probably happened.

• 1:03:49Speaker 07

  I really wish I could have got divorced. Chill, Bill.

• 1:03:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it's probably happened. Good question.

• 1:03:54Adam Sosnick?

  There hasn't.

• 1:03:55Patrick Bet-David?

  A recent, a recent. Ronald Reagan was the first, but he was married before.

• 1:04:00Adam Sosnick?

  He had a short marriage in Hollywood.

• 1:04:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Trump was also, it was before. So Bill Clinton, former vice president under Bill Clinton, Al Gore separated from his wife Tipper in 2010. But that was a separation. Okay, so that's the first one. So Al Gore didn't want to publicize it as a divorce, but they, is Al Gore still with his wife? Rob, are they still together or separated?

• 1:04:21Speaker 07

  Her name's Tipper.

• 1:04:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Tipper, yeah.

• 1:04:22Speaker 07

  What a name.

• 1:04:23Adam Sosnick?

  And do you remember Al Gore said that Eric Segal's novel Love Story was inspired by myself and Tipper?

• 1:04:29Patrick Bet-David?

  They're not still married?

• 1:04:31Adam Sosnick?

  Liar.

• 1:04:31Speaker 22

  So it looks like they're separated, but they're not divorced.

• 1:04:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so guess what? But that's, guys, that's not a long time ago.

• 1:04:38Speaker 22

  It's a divorce.

• 1:04:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Fifteen years ago, there was a separation. So I don't want to put a thing here that there's no way there's anything going on between the marriage. I'm 80% chance Ushah's furious with what the happened that they with their hands on the back of the head. And if that's my sister, or friend, or anybody that I see, even somebody I don't know, I would say, I don't blame you for not being happy about it. You think Melania's gonna be happy if somebody puts their hand on the back of President Trump's?

• 1:05:07Adam Sosnick?

  Where was that incident?

• 1:05:08Patrick Bet-David?

  It was at a Turning Point USA event when she brought him up. And she said, "He reminds me of Charlie Kirk." Oh, you're six weeks ago.

• 1:05:14Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, recently.

• 1:05:15Patrick Bet-David?

  So anyways, look, she's going through a lot of things. I don't know what it's like to lose a husband like Charlie Kirk. So everybody mourns in a different way. So I don't want to judge, but you know, I have not commented on this at all, purely out of respect. And this is the least amount of commenting you're gonna get from me. The most amount of commenting you're gonna get from me on this topic. Go ahead.

• 1:05:32Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, I'll just say a couple of things. Number one, I'm not sure why we put any credibility or credence to anything Joy Reid says. Is there anything you can, that comes to mind that she's gotten right? When you go, "You know what? Joy Reid, what a great point." I can't think of one. Not one. Uh, she's a race baiting, victim mentality, identity politics, click baiting, former MSNBC canceled somewhat journalist, who's now a mediocre podcaster with white liberal women, wearing a victim mentality shirt.

• 1:06:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Those who are horrible, those who are horrible as well.

• 1:06:04Adam Sosnick?

  Of course, don't even get me started on these far left liberal women. They're the, they're the, the worst things in America, besides the illegal immigrants that are killing, uh, national guardsmen. Uh, regarding divorce, I've said this before, I never thought that Michelle Obama and Barack Obama were getting divorced, even though there were rumors, even when the Trump and Melania rumors, uh, happened after 2020, when he lost the election, never bought into that. If Bill Clinton isn't divorcing Hillary Clinton, politicians don't get divorced. Al Gore, Tipper Gore, he wouldn't even divorce her, he'd just say separated. So to me, this is nothing. If JD Vance wants to be the president, which I think he's probably the most likely person in the Republican Party at this point, he's not going to get divorced.

• 1:06:47Adam Sosnick?

  Right now, what's, nope, when's the last time a president was single in office? I don't know.

• 1:06:54Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think I've ever.

• 1:06:55Adam Sosnick?

  Was it Abraham Lincoln, whatever it was?

• 1:06:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Whatever.

• 1:06:57Adam Sosnick?

  So the point is this, it would be, it would be shooting yourself in the proverbial foot to get divorced.

• 1:07:02Patrick Bet-David?

  There was a rumor.

• 1:07:03Adam Sosnick?

  You're still gonna have these little brown kids running around with a stepmom, not gonna work.

• 1:07:06Patrick Bet-David?

  There was a rumor that said, he's gonna leave her for Erica Kirk, because she's the perfect wife.

• 1:07:12Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, okay.

• 1:07:12Patrick Bet-David?

  And that's like, okay, by the way, do you know who got a lot of heat on this topic? That was running for president, that I think at the peak, it was at 19 to 21%? Do you know who, who is one of the most brilliant political minds of the last 50 years? Do you know who? Newt Gingrich.

• 1:07:29Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Newt Gingrich went through this, when his wife, I believe, had cancer, Tom, or something happened. And he got the amount of criticism that he had to answer for what happened when he left her or something like that.

• 1:07:41Speaker 07

  And remember that exchange that he had where that where somebody questioned him from CNN, I believe, Rob? And he's like, you know what? You chose a political, you opened a, a, a political debate with that shows about you and your character. Do you remember that clip?

• 1:07:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Of course I do.

• 1:07:54Speaker 07

  I love that. I love that moment.

• 1:07:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. So what I'm saying is like, if he does that, trust me, when you get into these levels where you're about to be the leader of the free world, what is a Manchurian candidate movie? Is that what it is?

• 1:08:06Speaker 07

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:08:06Patrick Bet-David?

  With the mother in the back, who's the mother? The, the, the actress that has won a bunch of different awards.

• 1:08:12Speaker 07

  Glenn Close?

• 1:08:12Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, no, no, no. The, the Mick Scar, uh, uh, the girl that they say she's the greatest actress.

• 1:08:18Speaker 07

  She was Meryl Streep.

• 1:08:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Meryl Streep.

• 1:08:19Speaker 07

  Yeah. She's lost her mind.

• 1:08:21Patrick Bet-David?

  When they sit, do you think behind closed doors, they'll sit there and do things like this? Well, you know, it would be better if your wife was this.

• 1:08:30Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 1:08:30Patrick Bet-David?

  It would be better if you wore this shirt. It would be better if you do this.

• 1:08:33Speaker 07

  Hundred percent.

• 1:08:34Patrick Bet-David?

  You think they think like that?

• 1:08:35Speaker 07

  I have a different perspective.

• 1:08:36Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know. But all I'm saying is, look, if that, let's say the point zero zero one percent chance that that happens, the amount of objections you would need to overcome for having left your wife, for a white wife.

• 1:08:50Speaker 07

  Of course.

• 1:08:51Patrick Bet-David?

  You're done.

• 1:08:52Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:08:52Patrick Bet-David?

  You're handing the presidency to Marco Rubio.

• 1:08:54Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:08:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Or somebody else. Or the Newsom.

• 1:08:57Adam Sosnick?

  Can I say why?

• 1:08:59Speaker 07

  Especially modern diverse America.

• 1:09:00Adam Sosnick?

  I don't see it that way because some, uh, great friend of mine, he wrote a book called Your Next Five Moves. Once they selected J D Vance and his beautiful brown wife to be the vice president and they won, they said, all right, next five moves, Trump's a one-term president. J D, if you fulfill what Trump is doing, you'll be a two-term president if all things go according to plan. So who's your wife first lady? They probably already vetted this, my opinion. I don't know. So that's my assumption of that. Number two, I have a different opinion on their, maybe their closeness, Erica Kirk and J D Vance. At the end of the day, I assume they're just friends. And what do I mean by that? So last night, I don't want to name names. I had dinner with one of my best friends. His wife is also one of my best friends.

• 1:09:45Adam Sosnick?

  Like that's how close we are. To tell you that I've danced with her in a club, lifted her up. It's friendship. It's like, it's nothing more than that. And my friend knows that how we are, like, we've been friends for 20 years. So I'm not saying that they've been friends for 20 years. So I don't look at it just because she gave him a hug and touched the back of his head. That it's that flirtatious or that bad. My opinion, I could be wrong. I don't see any salacious, uh, weird things going on here. Could be wrong, but in my opinion, that's friends, that's affection, that's pain, that's grieving. That's just a bond that they have.

• 1:10:22Speaker 07

  Did you, wait, you were dancing with your friend's wife at a club? Like dancing with her, did you do like the dirty dancing, like you picked her up and held her? Like that type of dancing?

• 1:10:33Speaker 07

  Like, I need to know what were you?

• 1:10:34Adam Sosnick?

  How did we get here? By the way. What I'm saying is, you don't think you can be friends with a friend's wife and not have?

• 1:10:40Patrick Bet-David?

  No, you can't.

• 1:10:41Adam Sosnick?

  You can't be friends with a friend's wife? Like hang out with her without him there? No, not hang, no.

• 1:10:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Zero. Zero. You can't. That's it. Zero.

• 1:10:49Adam Sosnick?

  So that's where you draw the line? You can't be friends with your friend's wife?

• 1:10:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen, his wife is my sister.

• 1:10:54Adam Sosnick?

  I know.

• 1:10:55Patrick Bet-David?

  No, wait a minute. She's my sister. But there is nothing I can do

• 1:11:03Patrick Bet-David?

  that is more than just a sister that's gonna make Tom even 1% uncomfortable. If there's a risk, if I ever meet your girl, the day you get married, you will see how I'm gonna be to your wife. You will, I'm gonna look at your wife like my daughter or my sister. Period. I ran a business for a long this time and there was a lot of knuckleheads who followed your rule. We're just friends, we're just, no, not under my watch. I've never been a fan. Ever been a fan. I want Rob to come with his wife to any of the parties I put together and have nothing to worry about. If he gets a 5% fear that somebody did something with his wife, I am a horrible enemy if you do something like that.

• 1:11:48Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't play those games. I don't like it. I don't think it's appropriate. And I think it's basic protocol and etiquette. There's certain etiquette. Now, you grew up in Miami, and don't get me wrong, I understand the party life. I was in it for a long time. For a long time, and then I stepped away. And it was a lot of stupid things we did as young men. I'm not gonna sit here and act like we walked on water and we didn't do anything dumb. Trust me, there's a lot of stories of what we did. But there came a moment where I said, nope, not playing these games. Anything that happens here, I'm treating her that way. And I told everyone, look how many of our guys in our company? How many divorces do you hear about in our company?

• 1:12:22Adam Sosnick?

  Not many.

• 1:12:23Patrick Bet-David?

  We don't play around with stuff like this. Every one of our guys in our company, they're my daughters or my sisters. That's how I look at them. And those husbands love this approach. And they will never in their mind ever even have a thought that anybody can have anything around us with them. If it happens, I can't control it when I'm not there. But I, I lean towards this mindset. You can call it the mob mindset, you can call it the mafia mindset, whatever you wanna, I don't know whatever you wanna call it. To me, it's just a very man's protective mindset that I have, that this is the approach we take. And long-term, if I'm a gambling man and I have to choose between these two mindsets, I'm putting my entire life savings on this side with this mindset.

• 1:13:08Patrick Bet-David?

  That's where I'm putting my life savings. And I'm gonna raise my girls for hopefully be that way.

• 1:13:14Adam Sosnick?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:13:14Patrick Bet-David?

  And I'm gonna raise my boys to also be that way. Because God knows, all our kids are gonna be tempted to do some stupid things, just like we were tempted to do as well.

• 1:13:24Adam Sosnick?

  I'll give you a little bit of credence here. A lot of what you're saying is your business model. I'm not saying everything.

• 1:13:30Patrick Bet-David?

  It's not credence. I'm not looking for credence.

• 1:13:31Adam Sosnick?

  I'm not, I'm just saying why I understand your perspective here. You built your company off couples. So you need to set boundaries very clear.

• 1:13:39Patrick Bet-David?

  This is not what it is, Adam.

• 1:13:40Adam Sosnick?

  But what do you?

• 1:13:41Patrick Bet-David?

  This is not about a business model, buddy.

• 1:13:42Tom Ellsworth?

  This is life. This is beyond.

• 1:13:44Patrick Bet-David?

  This is not business model. This is life.

• 1:13:46Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 1:13:47Patrick Bet-David?

  This is how I'm with everything in this area. If that's your girl, I have a basic rule. No one's gonna touch your girl. No one's gonna do anything to her. This is my way of doing things. My way of doing things. It doesn't matter what it is.

• 1:14:02Adam Sosnick?

  I get it.

• 1:14:02Patrick Bet-David?

  When one day you get a wife, you're gonna feel very comfortable with me being around your wife. And you will sit there and say, if, if your wife ever wants to talk about, hey, Pat, what do you think about me and Adam? Stuff like this. I remember one time something happened, I'll tell the story and I'll just move on to the next thing. One of the guys that, you know, are, you know, one of my first guys who does very well financially, very smart guy, very talented guy.

• 1:14:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Early on in his career, he went through a nasty divorce. And a wife messaged me afterwards on Instagram and text. I got a bunch of messages. Hey, would love to get on a call with you and would love to talk to you and all this other stuff. Do you know how many times I got on the phone with her? Because I think it's fair for you to hear both sides of the story. How many times do you think I got on the phone with her?

• 1:14:52Adam Sosnick?

  Probably zero.

• 1:14:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Why do you think that is?

• 1:14:54Adam Sosnick?

  You don't want to hear her side of the story.

• 1:14:55Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm not the guy that says I'm friends with everybody. The guy was my number one.

• 1:15:02Adam Sosnick?

  Of course.

• 1:15:03Patrick Bet-David?

  He is the relationship with me. I don't have a relationship with the wife. She wanted to give me. There is no reason for you and I to speak whatsoever. I don't need to hear your side of the story. Marriage is tough. It's difficult. You guys didn't make your work. I am not trying to dump on it. It's very, very hard to make a marriage work. You move on. These are very sensitive topics in life. When later on, things happen, you ask yourself, what kind of kids do you want to raise? What kind of values you want to build it on? These are some of the things you got to be thinking about. By the way, I'm not, I'm not, I see you with your friends and I see how you guys are together. I see it and it's great. But I don't know what it is to be in that community in Miami, growing up in that. I don't know if that wiring would have worked with me.

• 1:15:45Patrick Bet-David?

  If I walked up with my girlfriend and he saw my girlfriend, you're too friendly with my girlfriend? You're not my friend. You can't be my friend if you're too friendly with my girlfriend.

• 1:15:53Adam Sosnick?

  Believe me, I'm with you on that. But also some onus is on the girl.

• 1:15:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, you know, you're right. No, no. By, by the way, that part I'm with.

• 1:15:59Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 1:15:59Patrick Bet-David?

  But, but, but let's just say, you don't think girls have tried? You don't think married women have given me their key cards to go upstairs?

• 1:16:05Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, I know.

• 1:16:06Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think's happened with me? You, you don't think I go to events and like, hey, man? And the line is always the same thing. You know, I wish my husband was more like you. He's just so lazy, doesn't do this. You know, would you, my, here's my key card.

• 1:16:17Adam Sosnick?

  You inspire me.

• 1:16:18Patrick Bet-David?

  What, what, what kind of weird things do you think happens when here? Now, the, the, and by the way, again, I'm not saying this to put myself on here that in the future, I'm not going to make a mistake. I don't want that unnecessary type of pressure. This is why I travel in threes with men. This is wherever I go, I go with Vinnie or Tom or you or Mario or other people because I don't want to go places by myself. I have a rule of not having certain things I follow. I don't even want to get off topic here because we got a lot of other things to.

• 1:16:48Adam Sosnick?

  No, I think this is very much on topic. Circling back here, I don't see JD doing anything out of the ordinary.

• 1:16:57Patrick Bet-David?

  This isn't on JD. I'm not putting this on JD. Because what's JD? So, for example, imagine I'm roping like Vinnie, you're thinking about it, Tom. So you go up and Erica puts her hand on the back of your head. What do I do? Do I go like this? Imagine that video going viral. You can't. You have to be like, uh, that's weird, awesome, next. I know I'm gonna have a conversation with my wife afterwards.

• 1:17:22Adam Sosnick?

  We also don't know what it's like to be Erica Kirk at this point.

• 1:17:24Patrick Bet-David?

  That's why I said, I don't know. I'm not saying I know.

• 1:17:27Adam Sosnick?

  She's grieving. And a lot of people think that she's up to weird things. I think she genuinely loved her husband, lost her father of her children, and she's dealing with it. And we have no clue the trauma that she's dealing with.

• 1:17:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Nobody is saying that.

• 1:17:40Adam Sosnick?

  I'm saying.

• 1:17:41Tom Ellsworth?

  You know what? Real men help her. Real men put boundaries up to help her from any weakness she may have. That's what a real man does. That's what a protector of a family and community does. You set boundaries up so in their pain, they can't get past the boundary. You help them. And then you whisper to your own wife, you need to reach out to her because she needs a woman in her to give her the kind of guidance.

• 1:18:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Look, for us on the back end, you know, we contributed from our side. We've contributed to the organization. We contributed to her directly with the family and the kids, stuff that we did. No, we are for the Kirk family.

• 1:18:18Adam Sosnick?

  For sure.

• 1:18:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Those kids, Charlie's kids, always can call me and get anything. I'm gonna go out of my way to help those two guys, the kids that they have. Because to me, that's how special of a guy he was. I was a very, very big fan of Charlie. And anyways, we can move on to the next story.

• 1:18:34Adam Sosnick?

  We're on the same page there.

• 1:18:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Okay. All right. Let me get to the next story. What story do we have, Rob, that we haven't gotten into? Pa, pa, pa, pa, pa. Let me see this here. Okay. Candace Owens. Candace Owens accuses Macron's of choreographing one and a half million dollar assassination plot against her deadly serious. Okay, so let me read this thing here. Give me a second. I know who said this on the Vinnie, Tom and Adam. I'm gonna come to you guys. So, over the weekend, the political commentator also claimed that Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin Tyler Robinson was trained.

• 1:19:04Patrick Bet-David?

  By the French Legion 13th Brigade. Is this what she said? Candace Owens claimed on Monday that the French President Macron and his wife allegedly spent one and a half million dollars on plot to assassinate her days after she claimed the couple ordered a hit on her life. When everything is said and done and the public learns that Macron allegedly moved one and a half million dollars for an assassination, how will the world respond? Owens wrote on X on Monday. The allegation came days after Owens claimed on Saturday that a high ranking employee of the French government told her that Macron paid for an assassination squad to execute her, a group that included one Israeli. The claims came for after Owens had accused Brigitte Macron of being a trans woman,

• 1:19:48Patrick Bet-David?

  prompting the French couple to sue her for defamation in US court. She also suggested Israeli influence played a role in Charlie Kirk's. Who wrote this article, Rob? This is the rap, November 24. She claimed on Saturday that Kirk's alleged assassin, Tyler Robinson, trained with the French Legion 13 Brigade and that another journalist Javier Posort is also at risk. This is deadly serious, she wrote on Saturday. The head of the France, State of France, apparently wants us both dead and authorized professional units to carry this out. Tom, what are your thoughts on this story?

• 1:20:19Tom Ellsworth?

  So, number one, I've always seen Candace to be, you know, a very strong voice. And when she gets on a story, she's also a researcher. We've known her, we've had her on here, we spent time with her.

• 1:20:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Great weekend at Kentucky Derby with everybody, a whole giant group of people. And I always found her to be a well-informed, deep researcher. Parts of this really make me worried that if something's really going on, that she's kind of put her finger in the light socket a little bit here with people that may really want to hurt her. And that concerns me. The other part that concerns me is sometimes you get so deep into things that it can kind

• 1:21:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Kind of turn you a little bit and I worry that maybe she's pretty deep into it. And I don't want to see a day where someone I have respect for that we wake up and everything is discredited and it was all crazy and it got loose. I don't want to see that day and I don't want to see a day where she gets hurt. And I think there's a lot of stuff going on in here that is, you know, when something is so incredibly bizarre, it's either true or somebody's just way out on the plank with a crazy story and they don't know what to do themselves. And I want to see the truth come out of this. I want to know what's going up.

• 1:21:49Tom Ellsworth?

  She appears to be naming names and being very specific about specific amounts of money, specific French legions, the Legion 13th Brigade. She's being very specific about an awful lot of things that either she's got, you know, a spy novel here that's so incredibly well-written or there's something really going on here. Adam. And I just don't want to see her get hurt. Got it. Adam.

• 1:22:12Adam Sosnick?

  So Candace is one of the most gifted communicators out there. She's very gifted at grabbing your attention. The flip side to that may be that she's an attention-seeking, spotlight-addicted narcissist who needs your attention and gets off on all the attention. You used a crime novel was the thing, spy novel?

• 1:22:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Spy novel.

• 1:22:32Adam Sosnick?

  It's so funny because I was watching Scooby Doo the other day and it made me realize that Candace is like the human podcasting version of Scooby Doo where, you know, where are you? I'm going to find you. She has her whole crew and she deputizes her audience as Dinesh D'Souza said. And she doesn't need a mystery machine. She's got her podcast and her mic and she's bringing Twitter receipts and she's finding clues and she's finding chicks with dicks. Whatever she's working on, she always has the answer and you always have to stay tuned to the next episode where she does the big reveal and then plot twist. Rut row. It was Israel. All roads obviously lead to Israel, of course. Who was it? It was probably Israel. And then much like Scooby Doo, it's like you would have gotten away with it.

• 1:23:17Adam Sosnick?

  If it weren't for you meddling fact checkers. So to me, she's so gifted, but at the same time, when they rip the mask off people, I'm wondering, what is the mask that she's wearing? What is she hiding? Because what she's doing is not, she's either the best crime fighter the world has ever seen, or she's gaslighting everybody into believing whatever nonsense she's coming up with. I don't know which one it is, but it's one of them.

• 1:23:43Speaker 07

  Vinnie. I think, just like how we talked about recently about the illegal orders that Alyssa Slotkin and Mark Kelly and all of them, none of them can say what it is. Show us, as, who was the one that was saying, Stephen A. Smith was like, show us. You have to show people the evidence. Show it, I understand, you know, and by the way, I think the week off, it's, I mean, it's Thanksgiving. It's, it looks, I, but, I mean, people take vacations, but the same token, if you want people to believe that... The evidence is coming on the next episode.

• 1:24:15Patrick Bet-David?

  No, he's saying something else. He's saying like, she's taking a week off because of what's going on. What he's saying is, everybody's taking a week off.

• 1:24:21Speaker 07

  Everybody's taking a week off. A lot of people are like, oh, they're coming to kill her.

• 1:24:24Adam Sosnick?

  We're not taking a week off. We've been taking a day off.

• 1:24:26Speaker 07

  No, I understand, but what I'm saying is, you have to show me the receipts. If you want people to believe that they're, that he sent these assassins, guess what? You better have it out and put it out there and show everybody, because apparently the, uh, the White House was contacted, or they were given these receipts. I don't know what's gonna happen, but if you want people, you want me to believe that that's actually happening, put it out there and show us so we can see it. That's it, I wanna see actual proof.

• 1:24:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so there's, there's a couple of things, Rob. Rob, there's a, a pastor that responded to it at Turning Point USA, what do you call it? Faith, you have that video that, I think, uh, if you go to the video, uh, from Faith, Turning Point USA, Turning Point USA Faith, uh, I'll find it for you if you don't have it. There's a video of this, uh, go a little bit lower, pastor was talking, you don't have this, Rob?

• 1:25:22Speaker 07

  Uh, uh?

• 1:25:23Patrick Bet-David?

  That one right there, yeah, if you wanna play that clip, yeah. Watch this clip here, so he is at a Turning Point USA event, saying this, go ahead.

• 1:25:35Speaker 02

  Who's spending her time trying to tear down the legacy of Charlie Kirk, fighting against Erica Kirk, his wife, I mean, you have to be cruel and demonic to insinuate the things that she has insinuated over the past several weeks. She's evil. That's what it is. And a big hand clap goes there. Don't get shy on me tonight. I ain't the one. I came too far to play around. It's evil. It's corrupt. It should not take place. She sounds like a jaded person who wished they were in the role that Charlie Kirk's wife is in, but she isn't.

• 1:26:15Patrick Bet-David?

  What does that mean?

• 1:26:15Speaker 02

  So therefore, she seeks to tear down his legacy. And at some point, her husband is gonna have to walk into that podcast room and start unplugging cords.

• 1:26:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 1:26:26Speaker 02

  I mean, by now, I would have already done it if it was my wife. I'm yanking cords. I'm shutting down the camera, shutting down the ATM. Sweetie, get up. Get out of this room. And can you please help out with the kids? Because this is a dastardly deed that is being done. I thought that the greatest foe that we would have to contend with after the assassination of Charlie Kirk would be the left. But sadly, it's friendly fire from the right. I'm moving on.

• 1:26:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me, let me ask you, Rob. Is this pastor followed by Erica Kirk?

• 1:27:02Speaker 22

  I can find out.

• 1:27:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you find out if this pastor, because I don't know who this man is. Obviously, he's a good speaker.

• 1:27:09Speaker 22

  John, how do you say his last name?

• 1:27:10Speaker 07

  Follow him back, Robbie likes you.

• 1:27:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Reverend Jordan, is it?

• 1:27:13Speaker 07

  Robbie loves you.

• 1:27:15Patrick Bet-David?

  John, see if Erica Kirk follows. Is there a way to test that, Rob, or check it? Or I guess you, do you follow Erica Kirk?

• 1:27:25Speaker 22

  I mean, I'm not sure.

• 1:27:26Speaker 02

  You better, Rob.

• 1:27:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so if, okay, follow her and then go back and see.

• 1:27:32Speaker 07

  I don't think you clicked it, Rob. Did you?

• 1:27:34Patrick Bet-David?

  He did. He did click follow. So let's just see. Uh, okay, go a little bit lower. I don't know this. Go a little bit lower. Go a little bit lower. Go a little bit lower.

• 1:27:44Speaker 22

  Nope.

• 1:27:45Patrick Bet-David?

  So he doesn't follow Erica Kirk. Now, does Erica Kirk follow him?

• 1:27:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, is there a way to see like people that you follow that follow? Do you guys know what I'm asking about here? Because what I'm trying to say is, and was Erica Kirk live at this event? Was this a Erica Kirk TPUSA event where the two of them have collaborated before? Has there been a collaboration with the two? Okay? Has there been a collaboration with the two at all? Like if you go on YouTube and type in Erica Kirk and this pastor's name. If you can go on YouTube and type in Erica Kirk and the pastor's name, you'll see where I'm going with this.

• 1:28:31Patrick Bet-David?

  So, yeah? Okay, so boom, boom. Is it? I don't know, guys. I'm just asking. I have no idea who this man is, but he's a phenomenal speaker.

• 1:28:43Speaker 07

  It doesn't seem like they've collaborated that much of anything together.

• 1:28:45Patrick Bet-David?

  So then here's what I would say. If he's at a Turning Point USA onstage saying something like that, that means him and Erica Kirk have to be on the same page. But Turning Point USA brings a lot of speakers. That doesn't mean that everybody, like Erica and I don't have a relationship together. So it's not like, you know, it's a, I've met her many times, a handful of times with Charlie, but it's not like there's a direct relationship and contact that we just simply support the family. For him to say that, okay, got it. He's making his point there. There's some other thing. You were talking about Tim Poole. There was a-

• 1:29:16Speaker 07

  Tim Poole said something, I think Rob found like a clip where they-

• 1:29:20Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna give my final thoughts on this. Rob, if you want to play this final clip with Tim Poole and then we'll get into what I'm thinking is going on here. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:29:26Speaker 24

  I'm like, how come nobody came out and said Candace is in on it? Not as a question. I think I saw some of those tweets. That, why does she employ a law firm that works in a federal building? Or in a building with a bunch of federal undercover, you know, whatever? And so my response was jokingly like, whoa, that proves that Candace is part of the psy-op and she accidentally just outed her handlers. There's an interesting conundrum in a show claiming that you'll be silenced for criticizing Israel and people are trying to kill you while having one of the top podcasts in the world for like years now and making tons of money doing it. You know, I kinda just find it hard to believe that YouTube, Spotify, Apple are all like, "Let's prop this up," because Nick Fuentes got banned, mind you. And she's like, "Remember, you can't say these things, otherwise you'll get banned."

• 1:30:11Speaker 24

  And then she's promoted massively on all these platforms. Nick Fuentes is on Spotify and he gets banned when his podcast grows and he's censored. But Candace Owens is propped up on all these platforms, promoted, and her lawyers are in the same building as the feds? Some things. YouTube's always chosen who gets to be number one and who gets views. So I do think it's a fair question. Why is Candace being propped?

• 1:30:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Alright, you can pause right there.

• 1:30:36Speaker 24

  It sounds like he's deeply questioning Candace.

• 1:30:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I get what he's doing as well, and I got it. By the way, just so you guys know, he makes a point because Lior Cohen, who's a former Jewish music industry executive, is now running YouTube. He's the global head of music. And this guy was a very, very much one of the most biggest power players of the Jewish community in a music, not the Jewish community, music. And I wanna say, he had a major feud. Was it Ice Cube I asked about? I asked somebody about him. Rob, do you remember? I asked one, was it?

• 1:31:05Speaker 24

  Suge Knight?

• 1:31:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, we talked about Suge Knight with him. You're right, it was Suge Knight. Good call, because I know Suge and Rob are very close. So it was Suge Knight. But you know what it makes me think about? Here's what it makes... So Tim Poole, good point on what he said right there. Here's what I will say. You know what stops the whole thing? Candace, you know what would stop the whole thing? A Candace Erica Kirk podcast. And that stops the whole thing. Because you know what that does? That finishes everything off. Let's go through on a few different things. If an Erica Kirk and a Candace Owens two-hour podcast happens, I think it'll be the most viewed show she's ever done, okay? And the world will finally see and say, oh, there is a real relationship between them two.

• 1:31:50Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 1:31:50Patrick Bet-David?

  We know there's a relationship with her and Charlie, of course. We've seen it. There was, yes. But we don't know what that relationship looks like. Maybe Erica Kirk is on Candace's side. Maybe Erica Kirk doesn't have any problems with this. And by the way, if she doesn't, then guess what? Nobody else can say anything else and everybody's got to move on, on that specific front.

• 1:32:13Speaker 07

  I agree.

• 1:32:13Patrick Bet-David?

  That comes up to what? The Charlie Kirk and Erica Kirk. Let's set that one aside. Now let's go to the next one, okay? The, the, uh, the, the hit, the one and a half million dollar hit that's been put on Candace, her claims that she's also told the US government, et cetera, et cetera. Okay, great. So when you go and process that one, here's a few things you gotta go. Let's, there's only one person knows whether this is real or not, and it's Candace and her husband. Nobody else knows this but them, right? Is it fair to say that there's only-

• 1:32:42Speaker 07

  If it's credible and actual threat, meaning they have the information in front of them?

• 1:32:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 1:32:48Speaker 07

  Or whoever gave them the information.

• 1:32:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Phenomenal.

• 1:32:50Speaker 07

  Sounds like she found it.

• 1:32:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Great. So let's, or whoever gave that, and maybe that person is also playing like, you know, that whole one video that they show that she's reading off the address and the address happens to be her lawyer's address? And they're like, somebody spoofed or whatever word they used that they got her.

• 1:33:05Speaker 07

  Dox.

• 1:33:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Dox. Oh, yeah. Not, not doxing her. It was, it was, somebody sent out a real credible email and it's like, no, this is actually your lawyer's office that were given, but happens to be CIA. Anyway, so maybe somebody is doing that with her. Uh, i- is there a possibility that a death threat would be given to somebody like Candace Owens? 100%. To anybody that thinks it doesn't, 100% for the stuff that she's talking about. Of course, there's credibility that it could happen. I have a list of 50 names. If I were to rank the 50 names of where she would rank of content creators, she's definitely in the top 10 list. Some could argue she's in the top 5 list, okay? So let's set, let's set that part aside. That is there likelihood that something like that could happen?

• 1:33:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes. She's very loud. She is, uh, uh, constantly pushing the envelopes. Okay. So that could be the possibility. All right, let's go to the next one. The next one is- Is how many things has she so far gotten right? I don't know, but I do know a lot of people are following the stories very quickly closely. Mikey and you know, the Bill Ackman, the 150 million dollars. Bill Ackman had to respond and say, there was no issues here, 150 million dollars. Netanyahu offer the letters and then Netanyahu shows the letter that Charlie Kirk wrote that said, yeah, I want to help Israel to deliver the messages better. He wanted to be a Catholic. There's plenty of clips that said he had no interest of ever being a Catholic. One of them was with Michael Knowles. So a lot of this stuff has happened where people are kind of speculating on what's going on.

• 1:34:37Patrick Bet-David?

  One documentary, I believe everybody needs to watch is the story of Morton Downey Jr. It's called Provocateur. And the challenge with, you know, success is the following. It's very challenging, very, very challenging. This happens to athletes. This happens to Hollywood. This happens to actors. This happens to women. This happens to men. This happens to everybody. Where, you know, you're playing, playing, playing. Like the other day, they're showing a clip of LeBron James. Luca bumps into him, falls down, but LeBron doesn't offer to pick him up. And they're saying that LeBron now doesn't like the fact that Luca's becoming the face of the Lakers. Guess what LeBron? The reality is you're no longer the 32-year-old LeBron, right? And that kind of happens.

• 1:35:21Adam Sosnick?

  40 years old.

• 1:35:21Patrick Bet-David?

  I think Candace is in her peak, so I'm not going and saying this. But what Morton Downey Jr. did is he had a TV show at one point that was a top TV show, passing Montell Williams, passing Rosie and passing Oprah Winfrey. He was crushing it with the ratings. If you've never seen this documentary, go watch it. It's absolutely sick. Incredible documentary. Eventually it got to a point that he was so on fire that one day he tells his producer to cut his hair in the airport. I'm paraphrasing what happened and write the swastika sign on my face to say the KKK and stuff like that, they're coming after me. And then a few months later, the producer on Phil Donahue's show, I believe, went on there

• 1:36:05Patrick Bet-David?

  and said, I can't be in on this anymore. This is not true. This never happened. I feel like crap. I had to come out and, you know, say this because it's never took place. You know what happened to Morton Downey Jr.? Disappeared. Nobody knows who Morton Downey Jr. is today. And all you're gonna do is because you probably watch that documentary. Go watch the documentary, hands down, is insane, okay, on what happened there. So that's that part. So maybe that's what's going on. Maybe she's entertaining, and I'll tell you the last thing here, that any of these things that could be taking place is, the last one is, maybe, just maybe, when you talk to lawyers and you ask lawyers, what do you think's going on? You talk to entertainment lawyers. Maybe the lawsuit with Macron,

• 1:36:49Patrick Bet-David?

  they have offered everything so far, maybe, they have offered everything so far, that it's getting so nasty, that there needs to be an event for that lawsuit to be dropped, because we all know what happened when Alex Jones got sued, and how much money was targeted for Alex Jones. What is that number, Rob? That was 1.4 billion? I don't know what the number was.

• 1:37:10Speaker 07

  There was a B in there.

• 1:37:11Patrick Bet-David?

  And it gets to a point that you realize some of these lawsuits can destroy careers. So one lawyer said, maybe that's what's there, one and a half billion dollars to liquid his assets and all this other stuff. Maybe that's what's also going on. I don't know. All I care about is the following. We, we have a couple of things here that we do with the podcast that is very hard.

• 1:37:33Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, we have relationships with many folks. I think even when Candace had her falling up with Daily Wire, I think a lot of people would say, and she may even say this, we were probably one of the only ones that defended or backed her up, and we got nothing out of it. It's not like, hey, come to us, let's sign you. No. Everybody thought we were doing that. Everybody said Candace is about to go to Valuetainment. Nope. I had a conversation with her about some suggestions I made to her, one said publicly, it's between her and I. And we had very good conversations together for about two years and all this other stuff that we went back and forth. And she, she was, she was great as she was going through it, because I think we need the voices to be out there. And, and I hope she stays in this game.

• 1:38:19Patrick Bet-David?

  But more from... You know, Vinny, sometimes in life, let me tell you what happens, man. You're not even aware of it. Somebody gets a hold of your ear and you're permanently done. You lose incredible opportunities. You lose marriages. You lose friendships. You lose great business opportunities because someone's in your ear. And you watch somebody and they all of a sudden go like this. You're like, wait, what happened to this person that was back then? Now, keep in mind, again, if there's an interview with Erica Kirk, if there's an interview with all these other things, if the US government comes out and says, this is actually real, which I actually give credibility that could happen. Somebody could be willing to take her out. I say that. If it comes out, then everything I just said is gibberish and you just move forward.

• 1:39:04Patrick Bet-David?

  But if not, you know, it's a rough place to be.

• 1:39:10Speaker 07

  I don't think it's gibberish back. You're just asking the right questions. And I know exactly where you're talking about the people that it recently happened, where I saw one person enter the scene. And this person, who I love and respect, went completely, we're talking about it.

• 1:39:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, of course.

• 1:39:22Speaker 07

  I was like, whoa, you know, too. I was like, wait, what the hell?

• 1:39:26Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right.

• 1:39:26Speaker 07

  I'll tell you after. Where I literally, literally saw, and I wanted to say, the writing is on the wall, but your back is to it right here. And everybody's telling you, turn around and look. Look at the writing on the wall.

• 1:39:38Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what those people are famous for doing? You know what those people are famous for doing? We had a guy that was with a girl.

• 1:39:46Patrick Bet-David?

  What they're famous for doing is they want you to cut ties with everybody else. And they want to have 100% influence over you.

• 1:39:54Speaker 07

  I've seen that before.

• 1:39:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Don't trust anybody but this. One by one by one. And it goes with family. It goes with friends. It goes with, I'm not saying that's the case. I'm not at all speculating there.

• 1:40:03Adam Sosnick?

  What do you think the percentage is that Erica Kirk is going to sit down with Candace and do a podcast?

• 1:40:07Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know. We're living, listen, I call 2025 the year of surprises.

• 1:40:10Adam Sosnick?

  And it was.

• 1:40:11Patrick Bet-David?

  We have one month left. Yeah, I don't know. I wouldn't be surprised if that happens.

• 1:40:16Adam Sosnick?

  I would, I would be shocked to see any interaction between the two. Because this is my opinion. Charlie and her were friends. Yes, were. I don't see any evidence that her and Erica were friends. In fact, my opinion, once Charlie got married to Erica, it was kind of like, thanks for all your efforts, friend. Further evidence, if you want to bring receipts. Everybody and their mother literally came to Charlie Kirk's funeral. Why didn't she go? What's the actual reason? Can someone provide the reason you wouldn't go to your friend's funeral? So then she goes to war against Turning Point USA. Then she literally starts questioning the integrity of Erica Kirk.

• 1:41:01Adam Sosnick?

  I'm sorry, this is the exact opposite of how a friend operates. That to me is the most disgusting thing. Forget about what she said about Israel and Jews and BLM and liberals. This is friendship stuff. This is friendship stuff. You, the most valuable currency you have are the relationships you have, your friends. In my opinion, she's burned every bridge she's ever been associated with. Whether that's Turning Point USA, whether that's a Daily Wire, whether that's PragerU, Charlie Kirk, Steven Crowder. I don't know what's going on even in this room, but it's not like we're loving what she's doing these days. I'm asking you a serious question. Who are her friends at this point? To me, she's very lonely.

• 1:41:43Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I think she's very close with Tucker. I do think she has a group of friends.

• 1:41:47Adam Sosnick?

  How many more can you name though? Cause she's losing people like Tim Poole. She's losing people like Steven Crowder, who's calling her out. He called her a evil see you next Tuesday.

• 1:41:57Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think, I don't think he, he and her were together.

• 1:42:00Adam Sosnick?

  These are all people in the, in the same world.

• 1:42:02Patrick Bet-David?

  You have to isolate each one of these. We can't just say something like that.

• 1:42:05Adam Sosnick?

  Other than Tucker, who's defending Candace?

• 1:42:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Crowder and her had an issue after Crowder and his wife went through the divorce. And there were rumors about, created about, about Crowder that never ended up coming true. And they threw Crowder under the bus. And so there's been a rift between them with that 50 million dollar contract that he publicly talked about.

• 1:42:23Adam Sosnick?

  It seems like.

• 1:42:23Patrick Bet-David?

  On video. I don't know if you guys remember that.

• 1:42:25Adam Sosnick?

  You're right. There seems like there's a rift with every single person that she interacts with. Other than Tucker, genuine question, I'm not trying to throw her under the bus. Who's Candace's friends? Who are her allies? Can we name a name? Anyone?

• 1:42:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, she's got more than you would believe.

• 1:42:40Adam Sosnick?

  Name a name.

• 1:42:41Patrick Bet-David?

  No, she's got a lot of them.

• 1:42:42Adam Sosnick?

  I'm sure that there's Twitter, uh, uh, army out there.

• 1:42:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:42:46Adam Sosnick?

  But what famous names advocates are saying, I'm with Candace. I, Tucker, maybe? Who else?

• 1:42:54Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, she's I can't name one. I get what you're saying. I understand what you're saying. Maybe not the people that you're naming earlier. I'm just saying a name, other than Tucker. Guys, I am, I am just trying to be very, uh, uh, uh, what's the word? I'm trying to be very, not diplomatic, logical. Me too. Because I called out and I'm not like, I'm, I, I, you know, I said some things about Erica earlier about the hands with the back of that. So it's not like I'm making friends today. No, thankful, let me go make some friends today. DM, what a great show, PBD today. You were awesome. I'm not gonna get those messages today. But we're still friends, PBD. But, but, but to me, that's, that's a part of where we, we, we, you know, I hope the audience that watches us, 20% of you guys watch us because you can't stand us. And I'm okay with that. I still, I'm thankful for you still.

• 1:43:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Because I don't mind those messages. We need those messages that we also go and do research to get better. 80% of you guys support us and we love you for it. And those of you who do, I think you watch us because you think we're fair. And we're just regular people that are just questioning things and going through it and we want to find out what's going on. But we want the betterment for all of these guys. Because at one point when we were on the same page, here's a reality here, by the way. If more of these divisions happen in 2028, Newsom gets elected, America ain't America. Nope, that's for sure. You're worried about that 76,000 Afghans to 200,000 I came up? Imagine Newsom is the one that's president. You don't think he's accustomed to opening that border in California? What do you think happens the next night that takes place? Actually, think about it. So to me, my concern is,

• 1:44:20Patrick Bet-David?

  if I never talk to a person again and they're upset at me, but it keeps America safe, to me, America safe and America first is above all the other stuff. I'm not, and, and by the way, we can do that without privately leaking conversations. Like, by the way, nowadays, I have a list of people that I talk to. When I talk to them, I say, this person's probably recording the conversation. I have a list of people that I talk to. I'm like, yeah, that's, person's on that list. That person's on that list. This person's on that list. No, I don't think this person's recording that conversation. I have, I have those people that I talk to. Very interesting. And, and, and, and, but, but the reality, if you're fairly reasonable and fair and consistent,

• 1:45:02Patrick Bet-David?

  and, you know, you're for team humanity, not team aliens, at the end of the day, I'm for team humanity. Eventually, long-term, the right people will, uh... End up, God willing, doing the right things. Alright, let's get to the next story here. Next story I want to get to is, Vinny, you had one, one thing here that you played, which I, yeah, it's getting very hot here. It's so hot. You had one thing that I, I, uh, Rob, can we do a temperature, like, we stay on like a seventy-three? Seventy-three. Adam, take your clothes off. Tish, Tish Hyman, that's his way of going to the bathroom. That's his way of going to the bathroom. So, Tish, Tish, Tish Hyman. Yes. Calls out Eric Swalwell. I love that. And Vinny wants to react to this. Folks, Tish Hyman is the same lady who was in the bathroom when a transgender is in there changing

• 1:45:47Patrick Bet-David?

  with his dangling hanging out, and she goes out there screaming, and they kick her out of the gym, not Mr. Dangling, okay, who was dressed like a girl with broad shoulders that can bench press two plates and a quarter on each side ten times, that I believe beat up his ex-wife, when he used to be straight, or something like, ex-girlfriend. Oh, yeah. So, but here's. A big guy that could hold somebody down and commit a rape. You saw the picture of his private parts? No, I'm just saying, no, no, no, I mean, he's a large. Oh, physically, oh, I see. He's a muscular man. I'm sorry, I just thought like, because I'm not, we, Rob, we can't show the clips, and if he has those videos and pictures. Oh, my gosh, hang on, hang on, I'm reading from Adam's notes. Ah, Tom, stop it. Okay, go back to, go ahead and play this clip, Rob, go ahead, Rob.

• 1:46:29Speaker 25

  Are there gonna be men allowed in the women's room anymore? We need to know.

• 1:46:33Speaker 14

  No woman should be harassed in a locker room.

• 1:46:36Speaker 25

  Ancestral, are there gonna be women? Are you against men in women's locker rooms and sports? That's all you need to answer.

• 1:46:43Speaker 14

  I'm telling you, I don't want men harassed in women's locker rooms.

• 1:46:47Speaker 25

  I know.

• 1:46:47Speaker 14

  That should not happen.

• 1:46:48Speaker 25

  It's happening all around America. There are forty-five women, and there are forty-five men in the women's prisons right now, raping them, picking them out like chickens. The men are not women, and they're raping women. So, I don't care if you're on the Democrat's side, the Republican's side, we need to be on the women's side, people. It's happening to our girls, it's happening to our.

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• 1:48:10Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, watch this. No, just do me a favor. Pause it right there. Watch what just happened, Vinny. Go back 10 seconds ago. And I don't want you to look at her or look at Swalwell. Stay right there, Rob. Just look at the audience right there and look at their faces, nationalities, and see how many of them clap for what she said. Look at that, because that means they're in agreement with them. And this is in California. Swalwell is trying to run for the governor of California. Pay attention to the audience. Not Swalwell, not the lady. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:48:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch what she said. Very common sense statement.

• 1:48:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, it is. Watch this.

• 1:49:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Who's clapping? Pause, pause right there. Who do you see clapping? Not a single person is clapping and agreeing with her because they're there to support Swalwell running for governor. Keep playing it, Rob.

• 1:49:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow, what a shame. By the way, before I come to you, can you do me a favor? You know what? Matter of fact, I'll come to you and I'll play Charles Barkley video. I just, I don't know if you saw that one or not. I'll send it to you as well, Rob. Go ahead, Vinny.

• 1:49:29Speaker 07

  And Rob, can you cue up the other one of Eric Swalwell? Because I want to go to voting. And just, just really fast, Pat, you mentioned this guy is running for governor. Okay, and if you guys remember, was it two weeks ago, Robbie? Where we showed, and you don't have to show it, Rob, Scott Weiner, who's going to be taking over Nancy Pelosi's spot, doesn't care about men in women's bathrooms. He's so pro LGBTQ, whatever. And I want people to understand. I'm curious, number one. Where are all those loudmouthed...

• 1:50:02Speaker 07

  Um, pro woman, uh, what is it called, Adam?

• 1:50:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Feminist?

• 1:50:06Speaker 07

  Where are they at? Where, when, what's his name? I'm drawing a blank. Who was the, uh, the, the, um, Supreme Court Justice that was going up and everybody and their mother from Alyssa Milano?

• 1:50:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Brett Kavanaugh?

• 1:50:17Speaker 07

  Brett Kavanaugh?

• 1:50:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I'm here for you, Vinny, I got you, baby.

• 1:50:19Speaker 07

  I love you. How many women were, oh my God, what he did to women in high school, even though he had a freaking documentation?

• 1:50:26Tom Ellsworth?

  He liked beer, bro.

• 1:50:27Speaker 07

  Yeah, he liked beer and all the, remember that whole Me Too and where are you all at? I'm cur-, Tom, I'm genuinely curious. Here you have a black lesbian Democrat who's like, she's screaming at the top of her lungs. This is going on week three. It's almost been a month. Where are all the prominent black voices to stand up for this girl? She's out here by her damn self. Where's the gay community? Where's the black community? Where the feminists? You guys ain't doing shit for this.

• 1:50:57Tom Ellsworth?

  The answer is, she's stepping out of line. And when she's stepping out of line is because the victim du jour is the tea. And that's what the Dems need. The Dems need victims to support, victims to claim that conservatives and others are taking away freedoms. And so, they believe it, they don't want their daughters in those locker rooms, they don't want their daughters molested, they don't want that to happen. But they're not gonna say it when the guy who was tricked by a Chinese spy and was playing hide the salami with a spy is now running for governor of California. And they're ignoring that from his background, they're ignoring the victimhood, and this

• 1:51:37Tom Ellsworth?

  is a rational woman saying, "I was at a gym, I worked out, I took a shower, I was changing, and there's a guy there."

• 1:51:44Speaker 07

  Flashing me.

• 1:51:45Tom Ellsworth?

  It says, "A tall, muscular man who had the physical capability of committing an assault, and it scared the hell out of me."

• 1:51:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, by the way, here's what Charles Barkley had to say about this, Vinny, I'll come back to you. Go for it.

• 1:51:57Speaker 26

  Very simple for you, Dan. Men should not play sports against women. I'm not gonna get into all the bullshit that's going on out here in the world today. Uh, if anybody think that, I think they're stupid. Uh, I'm not, like I say, I, I support the gay community a hundred percent. I support the transgender, uh, community a hundred percent. But I do not, under any circumstances, under ni- zero, think that men should play sports against women. And if anybody have a problem with that, they gonna have to get over it. Cause I'm not gonna change my, I'm not gonna change, uh, I just think it's wrong, period. If people disagree with me, I'm good with that. Hey, we disagree. I'm, I'm not mad at you.

• 1:52:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Can pause it.

• 1:52:39Speaker 26

  I don't hate you.

• 1:52:40Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, this is, this is a guy that probably didn't vote for Trump, probably voted for Kamala, probably voted for Biden, probably voted for Obama. But what he's saying is, hey, Democratic Party, if you keep talking about the shit, we're gonna keep losing. And Vinny, what's this video? Is this the phone call video?

• 1:52:57Speaker 07

  And, and, yeah, yeah. And, and Pat, I'm just, I.

• 1:53:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny, you okay?

• 1:53:01Speaker 07

  I can't even speak. How, how is this still even an issue? Men with penises, okay? Not transition, which I still don't give a shit because you still have the testosterone. How is it still an issue that you're able to go in a woman's restroom? Take your pants off and she's like, oh my God, there's a guy in here and there's little kids in the gym as well. Cause parents bring their kids. And then number two, men in women's sports. As if we didn't learn, especially with that freaking Middle Eastern boxer that looked like my freaking cousin Eddie, beating the shit out of women. I don't get it. I don't get it. And this party is still hanging on to it. And this is a clip, guys, if you wanna know who's gonna be running for governor, as if Californians, you already got the worst of the worst with Gavin Newsom.

• 1:53:46Speaker 07

  You nailed it, Mr. Fang Fang, who was one of the worst, who farted live on national television and tried to deny.

• 1:53:52Patrick Bet-David?

  That should just be grounds for dismissal right there.

• 1:53:54Speaker 07

  This guy's the most, one of the most incompetent ones on the market.

• 1:53:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Farted live?

• 1:53:59Speaker 07

  Pat, he farted live and you could actually hear it. I'll, I'm gonna find it for Rob. But this is him saying that, guess what? He wants people in California and, and nationwide to be able to vote by phone. Go ahead, Rob, play this clip.

• 1:54:12Speaker 14

  I want us to be able to vote by phone. I think every Californian.

• 1:54:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Vote by phone.

• 1:54:16Speaker 14

  Vote by phone.

• 1:54:16Speaker 07

  Vote by phone.

• 1:54:17Speaker 14

  If we can do our taxes, do our, you know, our, make our healthcare appointments, you know, make, essentially your, do your banking online, you should be able to vote by phone.

• 1:54:27Speaker 07

  Text fang bang.

• 1:54:28Speaker 14

  Make it safe, make it secure, but it's actually already happening all over the United States. I want us to be a blue state that doesn't do just a little bit better than like Georgia or Alabama when it comes to like voting access. I want us to max out democracy. Also, as it relates to democracy, if you wait in line for 30 minutes or more, if you do want to vote in person, I think you should find every county for every minute that a person has to wait longer. We have to be better, not just a little bit better than the other states.

• 1:54:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Why don't you do this? You know what solves all of it? Make voting day a national holiday. Just do that, that's simple. Everybody can go vote. Make voting day a national holiday. What, how big, how, what is a bigger day than the day we're hiring our next boss?

• 1:55:08Speaker 07

  There isn't.

• 1:55:09Patrick Bet-David?

  To make the decision for the country's next leader.

• 1:55:11Speaker 07

  Besides for the July and stuff, this is it.

• 1:55:13Patrick Bet-David?

  So why don't you just announce it's a national holiday?

• 1:55:16Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:55:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Everybody, go vote on that day. Why not do that?

• 1:55:20Tom Ellsworth?

  And put all the votes on the blockchain so that they could all be audited, one per person, you have to be here, boom, guess what?

• 1:55:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Easy peasy.

• 1:55:27Tom Ellsworth?

  The Democrats rebel against everything that is not manipulable. All you have to do is look under, under all their arguments. Why do they argument for absentee ballots? You can harvest them, you can go to old folks home, you can fake them. Why do they want no ID? Because you can bust people around in circles. You can be like Chicago, vote early and often, it's election day.

• 1:55:48Speaker 07

  Yeah, exactly.

• 1:55:49Tom Ellsworth?

  That's what they want. Whenever you talk about, you know, they always want to talk about control, freedom of speech of the right, but when you want to talk about controlling elections with blockchain or some things that we have sitting right in front of us, the answer is no, no, no, no, no. And then you look at the map, red, blue, and it all speaks out. So, you know, their words talk loud and the numbers that scream is the, is the voting fraud.

• 1:56:14Speaker 07

  And that, that, and I want to come down real quick, this is the Democratic Party in a nutshell. Keep the border open, import terrorists. To come here, give them all the money in the world. And guess what? If you're a guy that says that you're a woman, get your ass into that bathroom and assault and just make everybody un-freaking comfortable. That's, that's their entire platform. That's it. Cause nobody can give me an answer on anything that they're running for positive. Go ahead. Give me one, Adam, what would be the main? And I'm being dead serious. The number one Democratic like campaign slogan push is what?

• 1:56:48Adam Sosnick?

  We're not Trump.

• 1:56:50Speaker 07

  There you go.

• 1:56:51Adam Sosnick?

  What's that?

• 1:56:51Speaker 07

  There's no policy.

• 1:56:52Adam Sosnick?

  They don't have anything.

• 1:56:53Speaker 07

  Go ahead, I'm sorry.

• 1:56:53Adam Sosnick?

  Well, the reason that you were like stumbling on your words and you couldn't find your words.

• 1:56:57Speaker 07

  My brain hurts, Adam.

• 1:56:57Adam Sosnick?

  It's because what you're, the word you're identifying that you're trying to find is identity hypocrisy. They're, they're playing this whole identity thing. So you ever heard the thing where it's like, well, listen, that might be the truth, but this is my truth. Yeah. When you say my truth, you know, it could be true. Whatever you make up in your head. This is my truth. It's a definition of moral relativism. Here you have, listen, support your lesbian black women, of course. The lesbian black woman doesn't want full on men in the women's locker room. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

• 1:57:28Speaker 07

  Hey, black woman, relax.

• 1:57:29Adam Sosnick?

  Easy lesbian black woman. Chill. Tees are winning too. So she's the loudest person they would love to silence. Something tells me that lady's not going away. Okay?

• 1:57:41Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, I think she should run for office.

• 1:57:43Speaker 07

  I'm dead serious, I was gonna say that.

• 1:57:44Adam Sosnick?

  Not in California.

• 1:57:45Speaker 07

  Tish Hyman.

• 1:57:46Adam Sosnick?

  Not in California.

• 1:57:47Patrick Bet-David?

  I think Tish Hyman.

• 1:57:48Adam Sosnick?

  Because look at the round of applause she didn't get. By the way.

• 1:57:50Patrick Bet-David?

  But I bet you Tish.

• 1:57:51Speaker 07

  The other side of the room was.

• 1:57:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Tish, run for office.

• 1:57:54Adam Sosnick?

  Please.

• 1:57:54Speaker 07

  Tish, Tish, Tish, Tish, Tish. She's a rapper. Look how jacked she is.

• 1:57:57Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:57:57Speaker 07

  She would whoop somebody's ass.

• 1:57:59Adam Sosnick?

  It's like this, you remember?

• 1:58:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Not that guy.

• 1:58:02Adam Sosnick?

  But not a snitch.

• 1:58:02Speaker 07

  Oh, the guy in the gym? I don't know, what do you think?

• 1:58:05Adam Sosnick?

  Can you find that picture of the guy? It was a full on man.

• 1:58:07Speaker 07

  No, obviously.

• 1:58:08Adam Sosnick?

  He didn't even fake it.

• 1:58:09Speaker 07

  He did his eyelashes though.

• 1:58:10Adam Sosnick?

  This identity hypocrisy, when like, so there was the, the, the governor race in Virginia early this month where the black Republican.

• 1:58:20Adam Sosnick?

  Against a white Democrat liberal, Abigail Spanberger end up beating Winsome Earl Seals. Support your black women, support your black and stick up for your, oh unless she's a Republican, no they don't, don't, don't, don't, don't. We're not here to support a Republican. When Larry Elder ran against Gavin Newsom, support your fellow black, no, not if he's a conservative.

• 1:58:39Tom Ellsworth?

  He's a sellout.

• 1:58:40Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, he's a sellout.

• 1:58:41Tom Ellsworth?

  He's not black.

• 1:58:42Adam Sosnick?

  This whole misgendering and they, them and my truth, it's all a fallacy, it's all a house of cards. So when you have someone who's clearly a black female, who's saying protect the locker room from this quote unquote woman, that's a full on dude. No one in their right mind would look at this person and misgender them.

• 1:59:00Tom Ellsworth?

  It's a dude.

• 1:59:01Adam Sosnick?

  But when he, with a dude with a dick walks in and goes, I'm a lady, and then she's the bad person, she gets removed? This is California for you guys. Gold's Gym, fail.

• 1:59:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Tish, run, run for office. You run for office, we'll bring you on the podcast and interview you.

• 1:59:17Adam Sosnick?

  You know what would be amazing?

• 1:59:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Go run.

• 1:59:19Adam Sosnick?

  You know what would be amazing?

• 1:59:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 1:59:20Adam Sosnick?

  You see how jacked she is?

• 1:59:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:59:22Adam Sosnick?

  I would like her to fight he/him right there?

• 1:59:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:59:26Adam Sosnick?

  In a boxing match.

• 1:59:27Tom Ellsworth?

  She'd win.

• 1:59:27Adam Sosnick?

  And let's see who wins.

• 1:59:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:59:29Adam Sosnick?

  I'd pay for that.

• 1:59:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, all right, so let's go to the next story.

• 1:59:32Tom Ellsworth?

  He already, he's 1-0 with the TKO against a former girlfriend.

• 1:59:35Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, put her in the hospital.

• 1:59:36Tom Ellsworth?

  According to legal documents and a, and a charge.

• 1:59:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's go to the next story.

• 1:59:40Adam Sosnick?

  That's his truth though.

• 1:59:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's go to the next story. Next story I want to get into is Meta employees compared themselves to drug pushers as company buried mental health harms to kids in unsealed documents. Rob, I believe you have a video on this. If you want to pull this up, is this it, Rob?

• 1:59:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, this is a Reuters report on the story.

• 2:00:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Is it like one of those things where a person comes up?

• 2:00:03Tom Ellsworth?

  A newscast, yeah.

• 2:00:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's see what it, let's see what it looks like and I'll let you know to stop it or just read it.

• 2:00:07Speaker 27

  Meta shut down internal research into the mental health effects of Facebook after finding casual evidence that its products harmed users' mental health. That's according to unredacted filings in a lawsuit by US school districts against Meta and other social media platforms.

• 2:00:25Patrick Bet-David?

  I'll read it fast. Alarming details surfaced in Northern California district that where is a coalition of US state attorneys, generals, school district and parents are suing Meta Google owned YouTube. TikTok snap over allegations that they prioritize profit over misleading the public about potential risks to children. Oh my gosh, y'all, IG is a drug. One Meta user experienced researcher allegedly states in an internal chat according to documents cited in court records. We're basically pushers, another Meta employee allegedly responded. Instagram chief Adam Mosseri doesn't want to hear it, freaked out when presented with an internal review about how the app was essentially getting kids hooked and dopamine hits. And one researcher said, "The plaintiff alleged CEO Mark Zuckerberg and other executives lied to Congress."

• 2:01:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so we know where this is going. Tom, where are you at with this story?

• 2:01:12Tom Ellsworth?

  I'll tell you where I'm at. It's, um, the truth is coming out there and it's leaking out. And now they're even the people that work at the, um, at social media are out there with it. Let me tell you, we are being gaslit, you know, by congressmen and senators that are bought by the tech companies that are driving social media. Not all of them, not all of them, but a lot of them. And this is where Zuckerberg went to Congress and he spoke about some of these things. We don't have data on that. We don't know about that. But apparently there's emails incoming from SVPs and, you know, internal communications, I suppose, like a Slack or something similar. They're using Inside, whatever Meta uses.

• 2:01:53Tom Ellsworth?

  And I'll tell you, everyone knew the truth, what's going on, but nobody was talking about it out in the bright light of day. Rob, if you could search for Dove Soap Reverse Selfie. So Dove Soap, marketing people inside Dove, Pat, were looking at this and saying, "There's a problem here." And they saw what girls were doing in terms of, they looked at the statistics on girls cutting, depression, and things they were doing, and they were convinced, based on data they saw, that they said, "There's a problem here." And they did this ad campaign called Reverse Selfie, where they were advertising it, and

• 2:02:34Tom Ellsworth?

  they, they started by, and it was called, "It Opens Up Reverse Selfie Called Toxic Influence." And basically, they were trying to get moms and dads to understand that there were bad things happening in social media, and they put it with the-

• 2:02:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Good for them.

• 2:02:50Tom Ellsworth?

  They've said, "The purity of Dove Soap goes with the purity of who you are and who you were born and who you are." And we want parents to do this.

• 2:02:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:02:59Tom Ellsworth?

  They had issues apparently on day one getting it on TV. Some TV didn't want it. Hey, we gotta be careful with this. So you know what they did? They bought time in movie theaters and they were running it as an ad pre-roll in movie theaters. And I remember seeing it. And so now you've got people like Dove was looking at the stats. This is looking at the stats. We've been talking about the book that we want everybody to read. And so my point is now we've got people finally coming out on social media talking about it. Folks, this is a time where we have to be, at Thanksgiving, we talk about how thankful we are for our kids. How thankful we are for our family. Well, we can also be thankful that people are taking risks to put facts out.

• 2:03:42Tom Ellsworth?

  And people are taking risks to make ads, even though this goes back a couple of years for Dove. Because the negative influence of social media is there. For the love of God, wake up. Take care of your kids. Hold them close. And the more and the closer you hold them and you have dialogue. And the farther you keep them from social media to get their props and their reinforcement, the better it will be. Because now we hear people from Facebook, Pat, saying, man, we're like drug pushers. We were doing it. This is like a drug. And they're saying that, Vinny, looking at the data.

• 2:04:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, your thoughts?

• 2:04:20Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, of course. So we talk about being addicted to all these different things that are out there. Gambling, sex, drugs, alcohol, cigarettes. The most addictive thing that is the most ubiquitous is social media and your smartphone. So, you know, if you look at the 30 and under crowd, small percentage of people are addicted to these things. 10%, 15%, alcohol, cigarettes, gambling, sex. Almost 100% of people under 30 are on their phone, hours on hours on a day. It's so pervasive that we don't even think of it as a problem. And I'm so glad that Meta has basically highlighted the fact that Instagram and social media, TikTok for that matter, is a drug. It is the most addictive drug you could possibly have because you don't think that it's a drug.

• 2:05:04Adam Sosnick?

  The challenge that we're having with Gen Z is they never had a chance. So. Your kids, Tom, your kids PPD, they're essentially in the youngest version of Gen Z or the oldest version of Gen Alpha, and they've had a decade of data and stats to say, "Listen, guys, you probably don't want to have your kids on this all day, every day." But 10 years ago, 15 years ago, Gen Z never got that warning. And parents, maybe they didn't understand what was going on. They're like, "Here, here's an iPad, here's a phone, it's all good." And the reverberations of that we're still dealing with. Women, self-esteem issues, men crumbling as a man. All these issues are happening in society, and Gen Z didn't even realize it was happening to them.

• 2:05:48Adam Sosnick?

  So now, kids, we have the conversation these days, should you let your kid have a phone before, what was the, what were the numbers, 15, 18, whatever it was? There was a whole host of different data sets. But almost 100% of kids, Gen Z, got a phone by the time they were 15. So when I said they never stood a chance, they didn't really realize how bad it was going to be. And now, a lot of them are addicted, and a lot of women have fell down the feminist trap, a lot of men have gone down the rabbit hole of bad information, and it's tough out there.

• 2:06:19Patrick Bet-David?

  I talked to one of our leaders in our company. Her and I were speaking about what's going on with surgeries, and how many surgeries people are having, and GLP-1s and all this other stuff. I said, "Look, there's a difference between..." You good? Hurt yourself.

• 2:06:31Adam Sosnick?

  You OK?

• 2:06:32Patrick Bet-David?

  I know what happened.

• 2:06:33Adam Sosnick?

  He's hugged, what you need?

• 2:06:34Patrick Bet-David?

  There's a difference between exercising and making yourself, you know, get healthier, right? And going to the gym and taking care of yourself. If you're not developing the self-esteem of your kids, they will get caught up in this mess. Because judgment is coming. We can right now, can you do me a favor, Chad? Have some fun with this. Can you judge me, Tom, Adam, and Vinny, and Rob on one of our facial features? Go ahead, judge us. No, Pat. Go ahead and have some fun, OK? I want you to do it. I want you to do it, OK? Adam, this, or, you know, the... Go ahead. Do you know how much fun you can have with that?

• 2:07:17Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, do you know how much it bothers me this much? But we do it. We have fun with it. It's gonna happen. I think what parents we just need to do is develop the confidence in our kids. Cause if it's constant comparison, constant edifying certain looks, they're gonna do that. If you're setting that example for your kids, they're gonna do that. They're gonna think that's the way to go and it's never gonna be enough. There's never gonna be enough surgeries. There's never gonna be enough of this stuff that is taking place. So uh it is also something that we, by the way, you're right that a lot of kids are dealing with this and Dove. I don't know if I've ever given a shout out to Dove, but good for Dove. Good for you guys. They're not even a sponsor. I don't even know if we use Dove.

• 2:08:00Patrick Bet-David?

  But I love the fact that they're doing something like this to get people uh realizing this. We have somebody that takes picture of us. Every time she takes pictures of us, I look 20 years younger. But I know I'm not looking like that. Yesterday we're playing soccer here and I'm gonna, I wanna do this while we're going through it. Rob, I'm gonna send this to you. We're playing soccer here yesterday. We had the Turkey Bowl, okay? And during the Turkey Bowl, 50 people are here and me at 47 years old, I decide to play. You played? Against 22 year olds, 28 year olds, 29 year olds, a 51 year old Louis, but it was mainly twenties and thirties. And I said, but you know how much I played it? I have not exercised and ran around a few hours like we did yesterday with these young kids.

• 2:08:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Dude, I'm feeling it today. When I went to sleep yesterday, I'm feeling it today. Did you score a goal? But it was, no, but we gave some, listen. They didn't let you score a goal? We went to the championship match, but I'm gonna tell you who we lost to. Can you zoom in on this picture? I'm gonna give a shout out to these guys. They call themselves the FLB FC, okay? The FLB FC and I gotta recognize every one of these guys in this picture. Even the guy that's standing to the left as if it's not part of the team and he's security, he was part of the team. Okay. Is this your team? Yeah, no, no, this is not my team. This is the championship team. They beat us in the championship. They're all your parents. And by the way, I gotta give a shout out. Let me just do this. Luis Espinoza on that team, okay? You have Damian Fernandez in the blue, right in the middle. You see him right there.

• 2:09:31Patrick Bet-David?

  He played light, he was the best player. And he was MVP, I'll show the picture here. Alejandro Del Amo, he was the second in MVP, he was a leader, he did great. And Miguel Barahona, and as well as Daniel Espinoza and Robert Carabetta, which by the way, Roberto Carabetta stole the ball from me at the end, and he scored the winning goal. What? I grabbed the baseball bat, I ran after him, none of that happened. Rob, if you can go to the other picture. Can you go to the other picture? By the way, every single person on that team was a Latino. This guy is an absolute stud of a player. I enjoyed watching him play, he was great, he was psycho competitive, a lot of guys came out.

• 2:10:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Mario put this whole thing together yesterday with the crew, and it was such a great time. And by the way, if some of you guys want to, you're local, you want to be involved in the next soccer tournaments, we're running, very soon, we're building two padel courts there. But it was a great time, it was an awesome time, and it wasn't sponsored by Dove, but I just wanted to give a shout out to these guys here. But most importantly, you got out there and you touched grass and you played with your fellow humans and didn't play soccer on your phone. I loved it, I loved it, we had a phenomenal, phenomenal time here. Was Dylan out there? Of course he was. Whose team was he on? Dylan scored the sickest goal, he scored an Olympic goal, what they call it, you know how? From a corner kick, like, he didn't, meaning it just hooked in. He scored a goal, he scored two goals in that game and they beat us. He's 12 now. 12? Yeah. Competing with these guys? Who was on your team, just for the record?

• 2:10:54Patrick Bet-David?

  It was me, Lewis, Liam, and we had Damian, no, no, we had Jamil, not Damian, and we had, oh, Emmanuel, freaking lights out, and then a goalie, who's good, he's good with us, he played very good. Manuel was probably one of the... Mario wasn't on your team? Mario was not on our team, no, and on the first team I played, yes, but anyways. Alright, it was a great time, it was a great time, and let's do the last, last one here before we wrap up. Tucker Carlson, Vinnie posted this tweet yesterday, cracks up, gets a couple million views, just go to Vinnie. So, this is Vinnie's Twitter account, he says, "This literally made me laugh, folks." I watched it right there. If you're watching this with your kids, pause, because there's gonna be a word being used that some of you guys may not want your younger kids to watch.

• 2:11:35Patrick Bet-David?

  And here, I'll give you a second, having said that, here is Tucker Carlson, sitting down with Pierce. Pierce is promoting his book that just came out, The Woke.

• 2:11:46Patrick Bet-David?

  I believe it's called, and here's what Tucker had to ask him. Go ahead, Rob.

• 2:11:50Speaker 10

  Would you say the word faggot on camera? No. Why? Because I... You don't want to get arrested, do you? I don't want to be arrested. Oh, because it's so harmful to people? No, no. Is that like gay bashing? What's wrong with that? Would you use that word? Faggot? Yeah. I just did. But would you? Faggot, faggot, faggot. Okay, but why? And I'm using it because you're not allowed to, because you're... I am allowed to. Go ahead. I don't want to. Say, "I love gay people." Faggot. I'm allowed to. I just choose not to. Would you say the word faggot on camera?

• 2:12:16Speaker 07

  So you know the context of this is, he's, Tucker is talking to him about, because this is a broader conversation about the censorship in Europe and what's happening and them not being able to say anything, Pat, about immigration or anything, because if you say anything, you're racist and all that stuff.

• 2:12:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Which, by the way, Tucker has a point.

• 2:12:34Speaker 07

  He does.

• 2:12:35Patrick Bet-David?

  That you can't say this, and there are risks behind it. He has a point to say this. And Pierce also represented what he doesn't want to say, okay? And that's okay as well. You respect that. There's some words I know I can't say, I don't want to say. You know, when I had the conversation with Nick and I'm like, "Hey, you don't need to say some of these words that you're using because you're already very good at what you do. You don't need to do that." But his argument is, "Hey, I also want to live in America to be able to say whatever the hell I want to say." His argument is also a good argument, but I have a theory.

• 2:13:06Speaker 07

  Okay.

• 2:13:07Patrick Bet-David?

  I have a theory, Vinny.

• 2:13:08Speaker 07

  Bring it on.

• 2:13:09Patrick Bet-David?

  And tell me if this is a dumb theory, and let's see, let's see what the audience can say.

• 2:13:12Speaker 07

  Okay, let's hear it.

• 2:13:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Maybe this is a dumb theory, maybe it's not, maybe it's whatever. I have a feeling, okay? Because, do you know, how many times have you heard Tucker say the F-word before?

• 2:13:24Speaker 07

  I don't think I have.

• 2:13:24Patrick Bet-David?

  You never have.

• 2:13:25Speaker 07

  I personally, personally, no.

• 2:13:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Not that one. Not that one. He said it once in 2006 on a radio call when he called in. It's the only time.

• 2:13:32Speaker 07

  2006?

• 2:13:32Patrick Bet-David?

  2006, which is 20 years ago. So Tucker also doesn't say that word, but he just started saying that word. Now, why is he saying that word? I believe, in the craziest way, that Nick Fuentes...

• 2:13:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Has influenced Tucker to speak freely and say whatever he wants to say on his mind. So Nick Fuentes has brought out the Nick Fuentes and Tucker Carlson out. Wow. Oh, and Nick is kind of leading Tucker for Tucker to come out and say, man, if that guy's saying it, I want to say it as well. So I believe deep down inside, because Tucker was in such a organized, structured CNN, you know, who was he with Fox? And I think, was he with MSNBC? Not MSNBC.

• 2:14:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, he was.

• 2:14:13Patrick Bet-David?

  He was with MSNBC.

• 2:14:14Tom Ellsworth?

  And CNN and Fox.

• 2:14:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Because he's been in such a system that you can never say something like this. And then he meets a younger guy that is saying, I'm going to say anything and everything. I think that kind of inspired Tucker to say, if he can't say it, why can't I? And this isn't like, you should never, how dare you put Nick on your podcast? No, I kind of did a month before he put him on and we had a great conversation together. And it was a friendly convo that we had here. But to me, this is just saying that I think Nick is given permission for Tucker to use some of those words. And I know this kind of sounds weird and some people are going to use this and say condescending and all. How dare you say stuff like this? Like, I'm just telling you. The only thing that you can look at is all these years he never spoke like this.

• 2:15:01Patrick Bet-David?

  And all of a sudden he is? Maybe it's because like, hey, why can't I do, why can't I talk like that? Is this a crazy theory?

• 2:15:06Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I don't think it's a crazy theory at all. I think you're bringing up something very, very interesting is that the new media leadership, and let me translate that. This is the podcast in the alternative media because old media is either dead or for sale or struggling. We can all agree on that. You go to the Allen Company Conference, would you like to buy a CNN? No, no, it's not a copy. It's a real thing. You know, it's like a guy pulling out of his pocket. We know that's going on. And so new media is struggling. They bring in, you know, our, our friend Weiss. And now she's in there running up and down the halls, hiring people and, and they're called raising havoc. No, she's trying to fix CBS. So you have all those things going on. What is the group that is emerging and is finding its way and finding its voice? And that is, guess what?

• 2:15:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Podcasting be and you've got Nick Fuentes who does those things. How can then can a media establishment guy? That's Tucker. He was a media establishment of yeah. A minute ago, you know, Adam read the resume of all the regular media giants that he worked at. That was his legacy. That's what it was.

• 2:16:11Adam Sosnick?

  He's the only person to ever work for the big three.

• 2:16:14Tom Ellsworth?

  There you there.

• 2:16:15Adam Sosnick?

  He's saying Fox News, CNN, MSNBC. He's the only person who's had his own show on each of those networks.

• 2:16:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Not even Wallace?

• 2:16:22Adam Sosnick?

  Nobody. Just fact check me, please.

• 2:16:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Stasiel Wallace, is he? Okay, maybe you're right.

• 2:16:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, Chris Wallace was on CNN plus for a minute and 42 seconds. That's the life of CNN plus. So you've got all this happening and Nick Fuentes is out there sort of being Nick, being in his way and and just, you know, having his opinion, pushing hard, but rebelling against a lot of things that he feels and rebelling against control systems. If you look at Nick, and so how can that not be influencing a guy who walked off Fox and has been a leader in the podcasting space only to see people like Nick gaining traction? I think there is a cross the aisle influence there and I think you're on to something.

• 2:17:04Adam Sosnick?

  Rob, what was the thing about what Rob, Tom, Adam said?

• 2:17:07Speaker 22

  So Chris Wallace has appeared on shows on CNN.

• 2:17:10Patrick Bet-David?

  But he didn't have a show.

• 2:17:10Speaker 22

  No, Tucker's your only one.

• 2:17:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 2:17:13Adam Sosnick?

  He's establishment as a guy.

• 2:17:14Tom Ellsworth?

  I think there's something there. I agree with Pat.

• 2:17:16Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know if he's establishment. I don't put Tucker as establishment.

• 2:17:19Adam Sosnick?

  I'm saying media establishment.

• 2:17:20Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, I get that. What I'm saying is Tucker was a guy that was in the establishment that hated it and wanted to be free. Because I believe Tucker looks at Nick and he sees himself. But he went a route that he couldn't speak that way. And Nick didn't come with a family who's been, you know, voice of America and, you know, did what he did in the CIA. And Nick's like, no, I didn't come from a family like that. I'm going to say whatever hell I want to say, and he has nothing to lose, whereas Tucker has a lot to lose. Tucker could say stuff like that and lose sponsors. Nick doesn't. And by the way, for Nick's next phase of recreating himself, one of the things I respect about what Nick said is I said, you know, what, what compliment can you give about Charlie? You know what he said? I have so much respect for how hard the guy works.

• 2:18:02Patrick Bet-David?

  And it says, I know later on, I, I, I think he said something like this. I know later on, if I get into it, I'm going to have to do that as well. Maybe he said that. But I think for the next phase, he has to get the business side in.

• 2:18:17Patrick Bet-David?

  In the business side, um, there's elements of diplomacy, there's elements of partnership, there's elements of things like that that he'll need to get to. Cause he needs to make money so he can't be owned by anybody. You have to find a way to make some money. You have to, or else your donors are gonna, people are gonna give you money, then what's gonna happen? So, I hope behind closed doors, he has a plan as well. Whether you read the Kennedy book, the family, or you read the Bush family, they'll all say the same thing. Make money, protect your wife and your kids, then give back to the country that allowed you to make that money. Okay, so he's gotta find a way to get through that next phase. Adam, were you gonna say anything like this?

• 2:18:54Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, I was gonna say something. Just when I thought Tucker couldn't get any worse in my eyes, he goes and totally redeems himself and starts using the F-word. Good for you, Tucker. Uh, to me...

• 2:19:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Were you offended?

• 2:19:05Adam Sosnick?

  No, not at all. I mean, I use the F-word on this, uh, podcast and I, uh, people aren't very happy with me and I won't use it. Cause there's a difference between an F and a G, that's all I'm saying. Uh, Tucker, to me, you bring up a very good point. And I mean this in a, not in a negative way, just in a factual way. I don't think Tucker is a leader. I think he's a follower. I think he sees what's going on out there and says, "Okay, all the cool racist kids are following Nick. F-word, F-word." And that's what he does. He never takes a stand against something that someone else hasn't already done. When he, when I lost respect for Tucker is when he was on air defending Trump every single day.

• 2:19:45Adam Sosnick?

  And then behind the scenes, he says, "I hate this guy with a passion, can't wait till he's out of office." You're gaslighting your audience to defend Trump, uh, January 6th, but behind closed doors, you're talking trash about Trump? You lost me, bro. Like, I truly believe, remember when Tucker and Nick were feuding? Three to six months ago and I was like, "Yeah, I trust Nick more than I trust Tucker." Cause at least I think... Uh, Nick isn't putting on an act. I generally think that he's anti-Semitic and anti-black and anti-immigrant. I just, he's a Catholic. He doesn't hide it. Theocrat, and that's what he believes. And he believes that, you know, Rome is his words.

• 2:20:25Patrick Bet-David?

  You think Nick is anti-Semitic?

• 2:20:27Adam Sosnick?

  What's that?

• 2:20:27Patrick Bet-David?

  You think Nick is anti-Semitic?

• 2:20:29Adam Sosnick?

  You think he hates Jewish people? Like in general? I'm willing to bet that he's not a fan of the Jews.

• 2:20:33Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, I, I, listen.

• 2:20:35Adam Sosnick?

  Israel, Jews, yes, not a fan. When you shout the N-word like it's going out of style, you probably don't like black people. But by the way, some, I'm at, I'm at Thanksgiving dinner la- last night and, um, one of, uh, my friend's younger nephews was like, dude, I watch you guys, PBD, I watch Candace, I watch Tucker, I watch Nick. Who's the one person he asked me about? He goes, tell me about Nick. I said, I said, he's super smart, super talented. I think he goes down the rabbit hole of very negative, uh, ugly views, but I'm not saying he's an idiot. It's dismissive. I never say Candace is an idiot, Tucker's an idiot. I say, no, they're smart people with very different viewpoints on things.

• 2:21:16Adam Sosnick?

  I think Tucker, who was Tucker's audience for the last decade before? It was a Fox News crowd. How old is the Fox News crowd? Sixty and up. Sixty and up, it's like eighty and up. So Tucker's looking for a new audience out there and he's in the YouTube world and he sees this kid named Nick Fuentes, he goes, oh, okay, here we go. Let me try to attract his audience. Now Tucker's, what were Nick and Tucker feuding about? Do you remember? Do you remember what it was?

• 2:21:45Speaker 22

  I believe it was Nick Fuentes said, well, Tucker called Nick Fuentes a gay kid in the basement.

• 2:21:50Adam Sosnick?

  In Chicago.

• 2:21:51Speaker 22

  Yeah. And then, uh, Nick Fuentes responded and talked about Tucker Carlson's father being in the CIA.

• 2:21:56Adam Sosnick?

  But there was another factor of what they were arguing about. Those are some substantive stuff. Nick basically said, stop pretending that you understand the young American male. You don't know anything about what we're going through. You're a rich kid, daddy CIA, you're sixty years old, you don't know what it's like to be a twenty-something in America. Stop pretending. You're establishment, you're a multi-multi-millionaire, you don't know what it's like not to be able to buy a house, to have a girlfriend, to get laid, to have a career. You don't know. Basically, shut your mouth, Tucker. Sit this one out. That's essentially what Nick said and it's true. Because there's a lot of young men that are basically have lost their ways. And if they follow the Nick path, they're just gonna play the victim.

• 2:22:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Got it.

• 2:22:36Adam Sosnick?

  But on a different side of things.

• 2:22:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 2:22:37Adam Sosnick?

  To me, Tucker is fake and Nick is at least real.

• 2:22:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, and that's what I think.

• 2:22:44Adam Sosnick?

  You said that Tucker's following Nick, not Nick's following Tucker.

• 2:22:47Patrick Bet-David?

  No, Nick is not following Tucker.

• 2:22:49Adam Sosnick?

  So Tucker is following Nick.

• 2:22:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I think so.

• 2:22:51Adam Sosnick?

  So a 60-year-old man is following a 25-year-old.

• 2:22:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, and by the way, when I say this, this is not a diss to Tucker. I'm in Hawaii 13 years ago and a girl named Phoebe is teaching me about Snapchat. When did Snapchat come out, Rob? Can you type in when Snapchat came out?

• 2:23:08Adam Sosnick?

  20...

• 2:23:09Patrick Bet-David?

  It's gotta be 12 or 13 years ago.

• 2:23:11Adam Sosnick?

  Snapchat?

• 2:23:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Phoebe was a baby. Yeah, exactly. I said 13 years ago. So 13 years ago, I'm sitting there and she's showing me about this thing called Snapchat. I'm like, what the hell is Snap? She takes the phone and she's showing it to me. I'm like, wow. Guess who's following who in that moment when it comes onto Snap?

• 2:23:28Adam Sosnick?

  True.

• 2:23:29Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm following, so this is not a this. This just means, you know, you're watching, but at the same time, I think one part of it is, you know, call it what you call it. I cannot believe I'm sitting here. Like yesterday is when I'm, I'm three years away from 50. And thinking to myself, I'm three years away from 50. That's freaking crazy, right? 13 years away from 60, 23 years away from 70, 33 years away from 80. You realize that?

• 2:23:52Adam Sosnick?

  It's true.

• 2:23:52Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, I'm telling you, we can keep doing the math. 43 from 90.

• 2:23:55Adam Sosnick?

  43 from 100, dude. I'm 55 years from 100, bro. And it's gonna happen like that.

• 2:24:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Anyway.

• 2:24:01Adam Sosnick?

  Tom, you're five years from 100.

• 2:24:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Like this.

• 2:24:03Adam Sosnick?

  I mean, 70.

• 2:24:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Hey, can I do something? There's nothing to fear. It's okay here. Can you grab the crew in the back? Can we hear, can you grab Justin? Grab everybody that's here right now, please. Bring them around. Hey, bye! And put the camera, come right behind us, come right behind us, come right behind us.

• 2:24:16Adam Sosnick?

  Da-da-da-da. Look at this good-looking guy. Come on in.

• 2:24:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Come behind us, see. Come behind us, come behind us. The Black Friday. You're the guy from the Black Friday sketch! No, get over in the back. Come over here. The jewel, come get down so they can see you guys.

• 2:24:29Adam Sosnick?

  Get in there.

• 2:24:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Get down, get down! So, I just wanna start off. I just wanna start off by thanking these guys for showing up. They didn't... They chose to, literally, they didn't have to do this. This is purely all volunteer that they chose to say, "We want to come in and we want to support. We love these guys, we love the work that they're doing, and we appreciate them." Rob drove four hours today after being elsewhere, and he said, "I'm going to come down and I'm going to do this," and he didn't have to do it. He chose to do it, want to give some respect to these guys. This show doesn't happen with the people behind closed doors that do their part. And this guy's the leader of the pack, he's doing a great job with us, Justin. And, you know, Julius is an actor.

• 2:25:13Patrick Bet-David?

  He's a very good actor. Happy Black Friday, guys. He's a very good actor. And we just want to give a shout out to everybody here, all the listeners that you were with us today. We appreciate you. We know you had a happy Thanksgiving. Rob, you're out there while we're giving you the shout out. I love Rob. Rob left the room to switch. To get the clips out. God bless. Happy Thanksgiving. Go to VTmerch.com, place your order so we may call you and eventually have you on the podcast. God bless everybody. Take care. Bye bye, bye bye.

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