Pod Insights Good Hang with Amy Poehler Paige DeSorbo and Hannah Berner About this episode Paige DeSorbo and Hannah Berner are in a nonsexual marriage. Amy hangs with the hosts of Giggly Squad and talks about the origins of their friendship, the best way to beat a panic attack, and why you’ll never find them running.
Host: Amy Poehler
Guests: Kim DeSorbo, Lenore DiLeo-Berner, Paige DeSorbo, and Hannah Berner
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0:38 Amy Poehler? Hi, everyone. Welcome to another episode of Good Hang with me, Amy Poehler. Very excited about our guests today. Paige Disorbo and Hannah Burner, two great women who make up the podcast's Giggly Squad. You may have listened to them on there. You may have seen them all over your social media. You might have met them in the Bravo reality show, Summer House, which is great. And one of them is still on it, and the other one is long gone. But we are going to talk about really fun things today. We're going to talk about stand-up comedy. We're going to talk about female friendship. We're going to talk about pimple patches. We're going to decide what is the best medication for anxiety. So keep listening, check it out.
1:21 Amy Poehler? And we always want to start every episode with people that know our guests or is a fan of our guests or has an idea of what they think I should ask our guests. And who better to talk about two young, wonderful women than the mothers of these wonderful women? So we've got Lenore and Kimberly, Hannah and Paige's mothers, joining us today, who were so delightful. And I could have talked to them all day, so let's hear what they have to say.
1:56 Amy Poehler? I'm so thrilled you guys are talking to me today. Thank you so much. We're doing this, we do this thing on Good Hang where we check in with people who know the guest, or who are fans of the guest, or who want to tell me questions they think I should ask the guest. And we thought there was no better people to talk about Paige and Hannah than their moms.
2:19 Speaker 01 I would say that's probably true.
2:21 Amy Poehler? They played at Radio City. What is it like to see your kids playing at Radio City?
2:25 Speaker 02 I still don't believe it.
2:27 Speaker 01 No, it was unreal. It really, I just, we pinched ourselves. I'm like, this can't be happening.
2:36 Speaker 02 I remember when they booked it, I just thought, you're, like, I couldn't believe that was happening. And then they sold out the first show and added a second show. And then I thought, oh, no, they're never going to sell tickets to a second show. And then they sold out the second show. And I thought, what is happening?
2:53 Speaker 01 And we get nervous for them, but we don't tell them. Like, Lenore is exactly right. When, I'm like, you're adding a second show for Radio City? What are you, nuts? Like, no way are you going to sell that out.
3:05 Amy Poehler? What was it like being on tour, Kimberly? You went on tour with the girls. Where did you go? How long were you there? And what was it like?
3:12 Speaker 01 I love it. I mean, it's just, you know, I stay, I don't go out on stage or anything. Our husbands have gone out on stage, but I just stay in the background. And I'm just really there if she needs something, you know? And it's nice to be with the girls. And I love watching, I always say, the best part of their show is when they're first together, whether it's in the green room, or they're getting their hair and makeup done. Because when Hannah and Paige are together, it's like no one else exists. And they're just, it's a show. I like, always say to my sister, oh, you have to come when they're getting their hair and makeup done, because that's the best part. Right, Lenore? I mean...
3:53 Speaker 02 It's the warm-up act.
3:54 Speaker 01 I think their bond is just incredible and so needed in today's environment, really.
4:01 Amy Poehler? I agree. I feel like their genuine friendship is really nice to be around. I think that's what you like so much about them, is how genuine they are as people. But then their friendship and bond with each other is why you keep coming back.
4:15 Speaker 01 Yeah.
4:16 Amy Poehler? You know? And, and Lenore, what was it like to have your daughter be on reality TV?
4:24 Speaker 02 Honestly, I don't know how Paige has hung in there so long. Let's just say it wasn't a good fit.
4:35 Amy Poehler? Right.
4:36 Speaker 02 It was not a good fit for Hannah.
4:38 Amy Poehler? Yeah, stressful.
4:39 Speaker 02 She jokes about how, you know, she's an athlete, she's very coachable. And so you put a producer in her ear and tells her, oh, you know, do this, it'll be great, do that. And she's like, tell me how high to jump, I'll do it. And then she doesn't realize she's making a disaster for herself in the edit.
4:57 Speaker 01 To Hannah's credit, I always say this, if Paige went through what Hannah did on the reality part of it, Paige would have moved back home and you would have never seen her again. And really, I say that to Paige all the time, like, I am so impressed with Hannah's perseverance. And I mean, she blew everyone out of the water, you know, just having a Netflix special, like, come on, you know, he's a fighter and she's very competitive, so that you couldn't take away from her.
5:28 Amy Poehler? Well, I'm wondering if there's a question that either one of you think I should ask them, anything you want to know, doesn't have to be big or deep, it can be, is there anything you think I should ask them today?
5:39 Speaker 02 Are you pregnant?
5:43 Speaker 02 I'm kidding.
5:45 Amy Poehler? Okay, I'll start the podcast by asking them both that.
5:48 Speaker 01 I think, though, a great question is, like, are they enjoying themselves? Right, I, you know, what do they enjoy about it?
5:58 Amy Poehler? Well, I am so thankful that you guys gave time today, I think they're going to be thrilled that we got to talk today, I mean, now you're making me think I should always talk to everybody's mom. Because you really do get a sense, really get a sense really fast, I'm sure you feel this way too, when you meet somebody's parents.
6:18 Amy Poehler? And the older you get, when you meet somebody's parents, you're like, oh, now I get it. And it's either a now I get it, I understand why they're so great, or sometimes it's a now I get it, why they're so fucked up.
6:31 Speaker 03 Well, right, but maybe you should have the dads on.
6:35 Amy Poehler? No, it really means a lot that you both gave time and I'm excited to talk to them. I think they're so great and the stuff that they've built together, I think is an indication of the strength of female friendship. I think it's, you know, it's a natural resource, female friendship and the way it drives the world and the way they talk about it and model it is really, really cool and special. So, thank you both. It's really nice to meet you both.
7:00 Speaker 01 Really, it was an honor. I never was this on my bingo card, Paige.
7:05 Speaker 02 I know.
7:05 Speaker 01 I'm like, what? Huge fan, Amy.
7:09 Speaker 02 We love you, Amy.
7:10 Amy Poehler? Oh, thanks, you guys. And you both sound exactly like your daughters and you look like they're older sisters. You do, look, Gen X all the way, babe.
7:18 Speaker 03 You're definitely our favorite.
7:21 Speaker 02 They're the mom giggly squad.
7:23 Amy Poehler? Thank you so much.
7:24 Speaker 02 Thanks, babe.
7:25 Amy Poehler? Bye.
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8:06 Amy Poehler? Hi, Hannah and Paige.
8:08 Speaker 03 Hi, Amy.
8:09 Amy Poehler? It's so good to have you guys here. We're thumbing through your book, How to Giggle, which we're gonna talk about.
8:14 Speaker 03 We have to say thumbing. That's a good, we should bring that back.
8:17 Amy Poehler? We're thumbing through it. Yeah, we're thumbing. You know, I have so many things I want to talk to you about today. I am huge fans of both of you and I love your podcast and I love your friendship and I love you individually and together as a unit.
8:29 Speaker 02 Oh, my God, see?
8:30 Speaker 03 Thank you. That's actually the only credit we need. Once I heard she listens to the pod, I was like, we can retire.
8:35 Speaker 02 Yeah, we're done.
8:36 Speaker 03 What is there to do? It's only downhill from here.
8:38 Amy Poehler? That's for sure. I'm here to tell you it is. We're gonna talk about that, about how life goes downhill. No, but I talk to your moms. And, you know, so we have this thing on Good Hang where we talk kind of about people behind their back in a good way.
8:56 Amy Poehler? I...
8:57 Speaker 04 Oh, that's very different for us.
8:59 Speaker 03 She's like, "Your moms had shit to say."
9:02 Amy Poehler? But, they are so great. They, of course, love you so much.
9:08 Speaker 03 What if they were like, "The girls are monsters." This is an intervention.
9:13 Amy Poehler? And they had questions that I wanted to start our interview with, because I thought they were really important pertinent questions for the both of you. Hannah, Lenore wanted to know, "Are you pregnant?"
9:23 Speaker 04 Paige, that's a wild question.
9:26 Amy Poehler? And Paige Kim wanted to know, "Are you enjoying yourself?"
9:29 Speaker 04 Oh, that's such a her question.
9:31 Speaker 03 Two extremely difficult questions.
9:33 Amy Poehler? We can get to them later, but they're hilarious questions.
9:36 Speaker 04 No.
9:38 Speaker 04 Easy done. Not pregnant and not having fun, not having a good time. No, but I will say, yes, I'm having a great time. Like, in the past year Hannah and I, I feel like our careers have kind of taken a turn. But I would not be having this much fun if I wasn't doing it with Hannah. Like, I don't know if it would be the same experience at all. I mean, I know it would.
10:01 Speaker 03 It's a little Stockholm syndrome, what you're hearing from her.
10:05 Amy Poehler? Okay, so for people listening, like my mom, who might not know Giggly Squad. Who, can you guys quickly tell us how you came together? You're doing your podcast, Giggly Squad, but how did you first meet and how are you a team?
10:20 Speaker 04 Do you want to go or you want me to go?
10:21 Speaker 03 Okay, I'll begin. Also, by the way, we are in a, like, non-sexual marriage. So if we have the kind of interactions...
10:27 Speaker 04 Like, half of America.
10:28 Speaker 03 We're in a partnership, yes, almost America. So we, and let me know if I'm overstepping, Paige, but...
10:36 Speaker 03 We're like, we'll talk about this later. You embarrassed me in front of Amy. You embarrassed me in front of Amy. So, talk about that. So, anyway.
10:44 Speaker 04 You'll be sleeping on the couch.
10:45 Speaker 03 We're just trying to not explain what Giggly Squad is. People are like, they don't know what their own podcast is. No, Giggly Squad, it stemmed from Paige and I both got casted on a reality TV show.
10:54 Speaker 04 Yeah.
10:55 Speaker 03 Which was crazy. It was never what Paige wanted to be an entertainment reporter. I wanted to be a stand-up comedian. And we found ourselves on reality TV scared, alone. Worried.
11:06 Speaker 04 Yeah.
11:07 Speaker 03 But we like had this trauma bond from it. Fast, and people liked our friendship, which is weird. It's weird for anyone to comment on you when they don't really know you.
11:15 Speaker 04 Totally.
11:16 Speaker 03 But for some reason, in the reality TV zeitgeist, they were like, Adam and Paige are entertaining and relatable, I guess.
11:23 Speaker 04 Yeah, and I think we like, obviously, we didn't know anything about reality TV. So like, we would watch it back and we would be like, oh, we feel like we were funnier, like while we were filming. Or we feel like people aren't really getting our friendship.
11:35 Speaker 03 I got to definitely cut the best punchlines, but that's fine.
11:38 Speaker 04 Because we'd be in the bathroom and we'd be like, to the camera guy, like, hey, why don't you come with us? We're gonna like really run a bit in the bathroom. And they're like, we don't care.
11:46 Speaker 03 We didn't realize that there's a basic.
11:47 Speaker 04 We don't have room for this.
11:48 Speaker 03 Yeah, there's a basic storyline and they have to cut down to 42 minutes.
11:51 Speaker 04 Yeah.
11:52 Speaker 03 And Paige and I are going on these callbacks and we're, you know, there's nothing to do with the plot.
11:57 Speaker 04 And we're like, oh, that's definitely gonna be in the show. That was hilarious. And like, of course, it's not in there.
12:02 Speaker 03 And then all my interviews, they'd be like, we need you to be angrier. And I was like, I don't even remember. I was drunk, so I don't know why I'd be mad. But um, fast forward, COVID hits.
12:10 Speaker 04 Yeah.
12:11 Speaker 03 And we're FaceTiming, everyone's depressed, everyone's scared, again, more trauma.
12:15 Speaker 04 And we're both home in our parents' houses and we're like. With Lenore and Kimberly. Yeah, and we're like 28 years old and we're like, so what's gonna happen to us? Like, are we gonna get married? Are we gonna like start a business? Like, what's gonna hap- like, all the COVID thoughts.
12:29 Speaker 03 Are we gonna live?
12:30 Speaker 04 And so we would FaceTime for like four hours a day. And we'd be like. We're funny. Like, this is funny. People would think we're funny. And so then, we were like, okay, let's just go on Instagram Live.
12:42 Speaker 03 Do you remember when that was a thing?
12:43 Speaker 04 That was a thing.
12:44 Amy Poehler? Well, I'm a weird, like, I have weird blind spots about all that stuff. Cause I just started doing social media like a couple of years ago. Cause I was on, I know it's...
12:53 Speaker 03 No, it sounds so beautiful.
12:55 Amy Poehler? I'm so old.
12:56 Speaker 03 Amy, we are so envious of you.
12:58 Speaker 04 What is Instagram again?
12:59 Speaker 03 When I saw you on Instagram, I was like, oh no.
13:01 Amy Poehler? I know.
13:02 Speaker 03 Say goodbye to your innocence.
13:03 Amy Poehler? It's so true. Like, I really, and, but I know about Instagram Live. I think I've done a few, but I never, but...
13:09 Speaker 04 It was a weird time.
13:10 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
13:10 Speaker 03 Yeah, it was very weird. I remember, um, the first time we went live, Justin Bieber also went live.
13:15 Speaker 04 Yeah, John Mayer.
13:16 Speaker 03 John Mayer. So then we created a beef. We were like, they don't support women in the arts. And they knew we were going live at this time, and then they went, it was such a weird time.
13:23 Speaker 04 It was so weird. And so we went live every single night.
13:26 Speaker 03 For three months.
13:27 Speaker 04 At 10:00.
13:28 Speaker 03 At 10:00.
13:28 Speaker 04 For an hour.
13:29 Speaker 03 That's how Giggly Squad started. It was like...
13:31 Speaker 04 Just the two of you talking.
13:32 Amy Poehler? Just the two of us talking.
13:33 Speaker 03 And it was, we were diligent. 10:00 PM, we were going on, and people...
13:36 Speaker 04 Sometimes we'd mix a cocktail, like, and so it started where we'd have like 500 people watching. Then the next night was like 2,000, then the next day it was like 5,000. And we were like, wait, this, like, what's going on? And we had no, like, segment. Yeah, no structure.
13:50 Amy Poehler? Right.
13:51 Speaker 04 And then...
13:51 Speaker 03 Nothing was happening every day. What were we possibly talking about?
13:55 Speaker 04 But we were in the, yeah, we were in the comments.
13:57 Speaker 03 It was like this community of, of women and gays that like wanted, and just like curious straight men, who...
14:05 Speaker 04 Which is the most dangerous kind of straight man.
14:08 Amy Poehler? Yeah, we don't want them to be curious.
14:09 Speaker 04 No, no, no.
14:10 Speaker 03 Who were bored?
14:11 Speaker 04 No.
14:11 Speaker 03 That's when bad things happen.
14:12 Speaker 04 No, no, no.
14:12 Speaker 03 Are you bored? Go answer an email. So they, they would like comment all these funny things, and we were like, what is this community of like girls who are so funny and silly? And it was this light. And then, um, we had to go film...
14:26 Speaker 04 Summer House.
14:27 Speaker 03 Summer House.
14:27 Speaker 04 Right.
14:28 Speaker 03 And we had to stop doing the lives, cause we were locked in a house.
14:31 Speaker 04 And then the world kind of opened up, and we were like, okay, I guess we'll make it a podcast? But like, we had no, like, going into it, we weren't like, we should start a podcast together. So it just kind of naturally happened.
14:41 Speaker 03 We actually had to debate. I was like, cause I'd been podcasting for a bit.
14:44 Speaker 04 Right.
14:45 Speaker 03 And I was like, Paige, you should podcast. And she's like, I don't have a face for radio. You can do that.
14:51 Speaker 03 That sounds like something you would do.
14:52 Amy Poehler? We're gonna have to build it.
14:54 Speaker 03 I'm not made for podcasting.
14:56 Amy Poehler? I was like, have you seen my bone structure? That's such an insult to me to start a podcast.
15:01 Speaker 03 I remember having to explain to her what podcasting is.
15:03 Amy Poehler? When I started this podcast, I'm like, oh, we have to shoot it now? Like now? Yeah. I just had somebody come up the other day and say, oh, I just watched your podcast. Which is like, watch your podcast. It's kind of crazy how that's taken over.
15:14 Speaker 03 Your clips are everywhere right now.
15:15 Amy Poehler? And you gotta have those clips.
15:17 Speaker 03 You gotta, that's why we're not allowed to have too long conversations. We gotta stop at quick.
15:20 Amy Poehler? Right, you're right. Let's keep moving.
15:21 Speaker 03 For 45 seconds.
15:24 Amy Poehler? I'm just gonna throw out a bunch of words.
15:27 Amy Poehler? These are not my glasses, by the way. I forgot my glasses.
15:30 Speaker 03 She just stole it from a random person outside.
15:34 Amy Poehler? But when you went back on Summer House after all that talk, you must have felt psyched that you knew each other so well. Like you had gone from, you know, you had had a season, right? And then you shut down because of COVID.
15:45 Speaker 03 Two seasons.
15:46 Amy Poehler? Two seasons. Two seasons, then you shut down. And then during that time, your friendship grew. So you came back in knowing like, oh, I'm with my friend.
15:52 Speaker 04 We kind of always were like that. Like, oh, I have a friend. Because we were both new at the same time. So we already had that bond like that first day. And Hannah and I truly are so different in so many ways. But our humor is the exact same. So from the day we met, it was like, this is my best friend.
16:11 Speaker 03 Not to get, look at me getting dark. But I keep going, I'm starting to get dark. But I think you might understand this. In any kind of trauma you're going through, the only thing I've ever been able to control is laughter. So like in reality TV, there's multiple scenes where like I'm sobbing about something and then I'll try to crack a joke. Because it's the only thing that I can control. And that's something that I think Giggly Squad is about. It's about taking your life less seriously in spite of all of, you can't control your relationships, your job, any of it. But we can choose to laugh instead of cry.
16:44 Amy Poehler? And I think it's the elevator. Like to me, like that takes you from the basement. It's like the fastest. If you can find a way to go from crying to laughing.
16:52 Speaker 04 Yeah.
16:53 Amy Poehler? It's, it's hard, but it's a huge, like, it's, it feels kind of...
17:00 Amy Poehler? Like the fastest way to remember that life is a dream and that nothing matters. If you can get there. But it's, and it's with people that, you can do it with people, like you can do it with people that you trust. And it's kind of what we were, we've been talking about in this podcast is, it's so dark right now. Everything is really tough. And I just want to do for my own mental health and for others to do what I do in my personal life, which is to talk to my friends at my house.
17:27 Speaker 03 And have a good hang.
17:28 Amy Poehler? And have a good hang.
17:29 Speaker 04 Everyone needs that one person in their life where it's like you can call them and they make you feel better about anything. It's like a spouse or like, in my case, it's Hannah. Like truly, if anything happens to me, like online that I'm like deep in, and like everyone hated my outfit. Like, you know, something like stupid.
17:46 Speaker 03 She's like, this is the worst thing that's ever happened to me.
17:48 Speaker 04 No, I'm like, I'll never financially recover from this.
17:51 Speaker 03 It was a sparkly boa.
17:53 Speaker 04 I'm like, they don't get it. I'm like, they don't get it. No pants is actually really in. Like, I can call Hannah and say anything and she really does like bring me back down to earth. And like, I will then like laugh at something and then I'll be on to the next thing. So like, I really feel like everyone needs that one person.
18:11 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
18:11 Speaker 04 Where you can just call them.
18:12 Speaker 03 We also were going through very unique things.
18:14 Speaker 04 Yeah.
18:15 Speaker 03 Like something would happen with reality TV that you can't talk to like your mom necessarily. I mean, you can, and my mom's like, why'd you do it?
18:22 Speaker 04 Yeah.
18:23 Speaker 03 But Paige would be like, yeah, I did that last week and this is how I got through it.
18:26 Speaker 04 Yeah.
18:27 Speaker 03 So we've just had unique experiences. But Giggly Squad has become us talking about just the mundane, I think, and girls have connected with it.
18:34 Amy Poehler? I bet you get asked a question, like Tina and I used to get asked this all the time, which is, what do you two fight about?
18:39 Speaker 04 Yeah.
18:41 Speaker 04 Nothing. We've literally nev- and we work together too. Like, the podcast is obviously a business, so like, will we have like business phone calls? Yeah, like kind of. It's not like we have like a set time where we're like, let's talk business.
18:54 Speaker 03 We've had like other people definitely try to get in the way of our friendship, which leads me to the Akon song. Nobody wanna see us together, but I don't matter, no.
19:03 Speaker 04 The fact that you had to break out into song is so crazy.
19:08 Speaker 03 Also, that was definitely a copyright issue.
19:09 Amy Poehler? No. Also, I don't know this song. I'm so sorry.
19:13 Speaker 03 I'll send it to you after, it's gonna change your life.
19:15 Amy Poehler? I do know Akon, I know, I know who they are.
19:17 Speaker 03 But there's this kind of level of, there've been moments where people have tried to kind of turn us against each other, which has like made us stronger, in a way.
19:24 Speaker 04 Yeah. The only thing we've ever fought about is, she has to stand on a certain side, and it's so diva that it's, I can't, because, we would literally did the Vanity Fair Oscar party, and my dress had like a side, and I was like, Hannah, I have to stand on this side, like, my dress, and she was, and she looked at me in the eye, and she goes, "I'll literally die if I have to stand on it."
19:47 Speaker 03 That was the first time I ever stood up for myself. And I said, "Sorry, she's, okay, she was a limited to model."
19:53 Amy Poehler? Yeah, she's got all good sides.
19:55 Speaker 03 She has all the sides, and all I wanted was to feel confident on my day, and one of my sides happens to be deformed. You're seeing it right now.
20:03 Amy Poehler? I disagree, yeah, I disagree, there's a little dysmorphia going on there.
20:07 Speaker 03 There is a little dysmorphia.
20:08 Amy Poehler? But I, I know what you mean, though, a woman knows what, what her side is.
20:11 Speaker 04 And I wasn't gonna solve the dysmorphia in that 10 minutes, I was like, you know what?
20:15 Speaker 03 It's so funny you brought that up, because it means you still haven't moved forward from it, because that was weeks ago.
20:19 Amy Poehler? Yeah, well, that's the thing about comedy, is you have to depend, you have to decide how much you're gonna care.
20:25 Speaker 04 Yeah.
20:26 Amy Poehler? All the time.
20:27 Speaker 03 When it comes to performing, because I was a tennis player, tennis was really like, you're a winner, or you're a fucking loser. Like, you can't walk off the court, you can be like, "I played well." It's, it's intense competition, but tennis, like, I really dealt with, like, very result oriented. So when I started doing comedy, I was like, "Oh, this is art." Like, I can, I could be authentic and raw, and if people don't like it, I'm like,
20:51 Speaker 04 It's subjective.
20:52 Speaker 03 It's subjective, that's, you're projecting onto me, and, and I'm so lucky I'm getting paid to be goofy. Where tennis, I really felt like every day was judgment day.
21:00 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
21:00 Speaker 03 So comedy, I've kind of retrained my brain to be like, you don't have to be mean to yourself, like you were with tennis. So I, I, because I feel like I've lived a couple lives before comedy, with comedy, I've been, I've been really nice to myself, and I think,
21:12 Amy Poehler? That's great.
21:13 Speaker 03 I hope other people can do the same, if they're being mean to themselves, with like, how they're, Doing in their careers.
21:21 Amy Poehler? I think that what you're saying is really important because so much of being funny is being relaxed. And it's like less about content.
21:31 Speaker 03 Well, I, not to shit on comedians.
21:34 Amy Poehler? Let's do it.
21:35 Speaker 03 I don't like when comedians take it so seriously. I'm like, if the audience laughs, you did a great job. I can make myself laugh like this.
21:43 Amy Poehler? Let's be, let's be serious. Like, it's like when you're in a comic club.
21:46 Speaker 03 She's like, okay, get out of here. This is an important part of any polar.
21:52 Amy Poehler? No, but, but, but, but.
21:54 Speaker 03 I'm mortified.
21:57 Amy Poehler? But when you go backstage and all the men, it's usually men, sometimes women, but it's like with their headphones on, like pacing, going over their set. And it's like, I saw your set. It's okay. It's not that great.
22:08 Speaker 03 We're all making.
22:09 Amy Poehler? It's, it's okay.
22:09 Speaker 04 They're like pre-gaming to Eminem.
22:10 Amy Poehler? It's pretty tough to talk to stand-ups, um, in general.
22:13 Speaker 03 Oh, yeah, because we have the improv world.
22:15 Amy Poehler? Because they are just always performing at you and they're also either having done a set or about to do a set. And they're just trying to figure out what went wrong. And so they're just staring at like right past you, doing their bit and it's tough.
22:30 Speaker 03 Every now and then, I practice my bits on Paige without her knowing, which is super annoying.
22:35 Amy Poehler? That's a very stand-up, you know.
22:36 Speaker 03 She knows. I, I start, I get a microphone. Because my thing is if Paige laughs.
22:41 Amy Poehler? I'm like, you make me light you in five minutes. What are you talking about?
22:46 Speaker 03 But I, I have become aware that like, it's really annoying to constantly just be wanting to take laughter from people. And there's, there has to be this.
22:56 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
22:57 Speaker 03 This vulnerability. It's, it's annoying.
22:59 Amy Poehler? Yeah, it, it, or, or it feels like, you know, you have to be aware that sometimes people feel like your audience rather than, you know. But do you, what is your relation to, relationship to being funny? Because you're very funny.
23:11 Speaker 04 Okay. My whole personality has been built out of spite. Because when I was younger, my brother is so funny. His timing is great, he's so smart, he just like knows when something's gonna hit. So my dad would always be laughing at my brother, and he's like five years older than me. And I started to get so frustrated, and I was just like, "Dad, I'm also funny." And my dad was like, "Well, you haven't made me laugh."
23:35 Speaker 03 He goes, "You're beautiful."
23:37 Speaker 04 Yeah, like, "You're beautiful, you can't read, stay in your lane." And I, and, so I would get so annoyed.
23:44 Speaker 03 He's older and smarter and...
23:45 Speaker 04 Older and smarter, but my brother always loved comedy, so like I would always watch stand-ups. I always knew who, like, famous comedians were. And so then, just like over time, I think just hanging out with my brother and my dad, like I got certain timing.
23:59 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
23:59 Speaker 04 But I was never like outwardly funny. Like, I don't think in high school anyone would have described me as like, "Oh, she was like so funny in class." It really wasn't until I met Hannah that I feel like I was more open about being funny.
24:15 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
24:16 Speaker 04 Like, my friends would say, "Yeah, like, she's funny sometimes." Where now, I'm like, "If you don't think I'm funny, I hate you."
24:22 Amy Poehler? Yes!
24:22 Speaker 04 Like, then you don't get me, then you don't get, like, my personality.
24:25 Speaker 03 Isn't it funny how people can be mirrors to you? Like, if you surround yourself with people that, I mean, your dad now is like, "Paige, you're hilarious." How do we not know? But a lot of friends I'd be with, like, they don't want you to be funny, or that's not how they see the world.
24:37 Speaker 04 But I could never do stand-up the way she does.
24:40 Speaker 03 I think she can.
24:41 Amy Poehler? I think you could. I just have to say, I don't think women should say anymore, "I can, I could never do anything." Because I think, don't, you can do, I could do it, I don't wanna.
24:51 Speaker 03 No, we, she doesn't wanna stand.
24:54 Speaker 04 I don't wanna stand up there.
24:55 Speaker 03 She doesn't wanna stand for more than 20 minutes ever.
24:57 Speaker 04 An hour with no chair?
24:58 Amy Poehler? Get a grip.
24:59 Speaker 03 That's her.
24:59 Speaker 04 In this economy?
25:00 Speaker 03 You could Dave Chappelle it and sit with a cigarette the whole time.
25:03 Speaker 04 I would love that.
25:05 Amy Poehler? That's exactly right.
25:06 Speaker 03 With a jewel, a mango jewel.
25:08 Amy Poehler? Just get an IV while you do it, and sit there, and just get other things done.
25:12 Speaker 03 You get your nails done for three hours a week, and you can't stand one thing?
25:15 Amy Poehler? Actually, that would be amazing if you got your nails done.
25:17 Speaker 04 That would be amazing.
25:18 Amy Poehler? That is stand-up.
25:19 Speaker 04 I'm like, I have to fit it in. It does, it takes a while.
25:22 Amy Poehler? I really relate, 'cause Tina and I are on tour, and I wanna talk about your tour, and we have, I pushed her, I was like, "Let's do stand-up." And... Tina was like, "We don't really..." And I was like, "But we do, and also we can, and also let's just keep trying it and try new material and like, use this section to try new stuff."
25:41 Speaker 03 Well, with us, with our tour, we do a lot of improv, but then whenever a joke really hits, we keep it. So it's basically like you doing improv, but then being able to save everything that works and doing it again.
25:52 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
25:52 Speaker 03 It's just such a different, it's a different form of comedy, but the hard part's done. You're funny.
25:57 Amy Poehler? I'm always so suspicious of when people start gatekeeping stuff as being really hard. I mean, with the exception of like, science and...
26:05 Speaker 04 Like, real hard stuff.
26:06 Amy Poehler? Like, real hard stuff, like math.
26:07 Speaker 04 Things that you have to go to school for more than five years.
26:09 Speaker 03 Are we respecting science on this pod?
26:11 Amy Poehler? We believe in science. We believe in science, and I said it for the first time today.
26:14 Speaker 04 Like, I would have never even thought to go on a tour, or even been, or said like, "Yeah, I want to do this", if it wasn't for Hannah being like, "Paige, you can go out on a stage and like, be funny."
26:24 Amy Poehler? What do you like and not like about being on tour?
26:26 Speaker 04 I always say like, the beginning, like, before we go out on stage when we're in the green room, is my favorite part, because that's when we're just like, waiting to like, go do something.
26:35 Amy Poehler? Your mom's brought that up.
26:36 Speaker 04 Really?
26:37 Amy Poehler? Um, that, like, Kim being on tour, um, she was saying, "The best part", I always tell people, "The best part is before you are on stage", and it's just the two of you getting hair and makeup, just like, getting ready.
26:49 Speaker 04 It's like, we're waiting to like, go to a party or something.
26:52 Speaker 03 Except every now and then, Paige started this thing, she likes to show up in like, her sweats.
26:57 Speaker 04 I'm an athlete.
26:59 Speaker 03 She has to look like she's practicing, and she's like, "Let's not get dressed up until right before." But I'm not organized, so I show up in my sweats, and then I take out my backpack, and I'm like, "I left my left heel in the hotel. This is really, really, really..." And I forget clothes all the time, where Paige has a perfect outfit.
27:17 Speaker 04 This describes tour. We were in Denver, we had just started our tour.
27:21 Speaker 03 You're talking about Denver?
27:22 Speaker 04 I know. We're about to go out on stage in like, 15 minutes, and I'm like, "No, I think I'm, I think I'm having a panic attack. My hands are numb, I'm crying, I'm throwing up", I'm like, "Yeah, no, I'm having a panic attack." Hannah's trying to like, play spa music in the background.
27:38 Speaker 03 I found on YouTube spa music, and I just put it out her face.
27:41 Speaker 04 "Paige, is this helping?" I'm like, "Not at all." I'm literally in the midst of crying, tears are running down my face. I realize that Hannah has forgotten her shirt that she's wearing out on stage, so she's gonna wear like, this silk pajama shirt that like, the venue had given us, like, this merch? I can't even speak and the only words I can get out is, "You can't wear that shirt onstage." And she looks over at me and she's like, "You're having a panic attack and you're gonna tell me what I'm gonna wear." Luckily, I had like a t-shirt in my bag that was like extra whatever and I was like, "Put this on." She put that on, her outfit was fine, and then I got out of my panic attack.
28:20 Amy Poehler? But that's a great example of like, you're, she got you so-
28:23 Speaker 04 After a lot of beta blockers and Xanax, I got out of it.
28:25 Speaker 03 And let's also, she FaceTimes her mom, because she's like, "Hannah, this isn't working on FaceTiming, Kim." So I'm just listening, supporting, and all I hear is, "Paige, stop. Paige, stop it. You're fine. Paige, you're fine." She hangs up. We start dying laughing. We were like, "Your mom just told you to stop."
28:41 Speaker 04 Yeah, she's like, "Panic attacks aren't real."
28:42 Speaker 03 And that's two generations of women. She's like, "Back in my day, we sucked it up, okay?"
28:47 Amy Poehler? Well, that is true. We never even had the word anxiety.
28:51 Speaker 03 And you did SNL.
28:52 Amy Poehler? We, I had a high school boyfriend who used to get stomach aches and we were like, "Huh, I wonder why." And he would just be up all night and-
28:59 Speaker 03 No, you realize it was because of you?
29:03 Speaker 03 The second you broke up, he's like, "My stomach feels great."
29:07 Amy Poehler? He's like, "You totally went away." And I was like, "Okay, I wonder what it was."
29:12 Amy Poehler? And he used to be up all night worried about the future, get stomach aches, and everyone was just like, "Huh, shoot, I guess."
29:19 Speaker 04 Drink some Pepto.
29:20 Amy Poehler? I hope he fixes that. There was no discussion.
29:22 Speaker 03 You bring up relaxation a lot in this episode. I was wondering, because you've dealt with some of the most high-pressure live performances in entertainment, period. Do you have any advice for us when you feel like your career is hanging by a thread?
29:36 Speaker 04 You're like, "Do you ever take a beta blocker?"
29:38 Speaker 03 To give something funny?
29:40 Amy Poehler? I've never taken a beta blocker and a lot of people have told me about those. I would be worried it would slow me down.
29:46 Speaker 04 Yeah. Okay, so here's the thing why I like it. It's not for anxiety, it's for blood pressure. So like, it doesn't do anything to your brain?
29:55 Speaker 03 She's a drug pusher. She pushes people.
29:56 Speaker 04 Because I am very against Xanax. I don't like the way Xanax makes me feel.
29:59 Amy Poehler? You have to really, really be careful with those.
30:01 Speaker 04 Yeah, I didn't like that. Where when I took a beta blocker before I went out onstage, it just like took away my hands sweating. So that's why I like it.
30:09 Speaker 03 It's good with physical reactions. Like, you know when you're so over-prepared for a performance, but you know your body's gonna turn on you right beforehand and you're gonna get the shakes and your lips quivering? Beta blocker for me, I've taken, just, it just calms your heart rate. So I feel more normal, but not your brain. But it depends on the person. I took it, did I take it? I didn't take it for Fallon, I took it for my Netflix special.
30:31 Amy Poehler? Hmm, great special, by the way.
30:34 Speaker 03 Thank you. I was having, um, a lot of, like, panic. Cause I felt like it was a make or break career moment for me and I blew it out of proportion in my head. But I've never experienced that level of performance before and stand-up's never recorded. So I just went to a dark place in my head. I'm like, what if I blank?
30:50 Amy Poehler? Yeah, yeah. I, I feel like my anxiety tends to come after I do something. I get a little, I get a little kinda zony before and then after, I get very fluttery and nervous. And it's a little bit like, was I good? Did I do it? Like, I, I kinda check out, I dis- I disassociate, which our gen is really good at. It's really healthy. Um, you know, like, just float above your body.
31:12 Speaker 03 Yep.
31:13 Amy Poehler? And get out of your body. And then when I'm like sucked back into my body, that's when I get shaky. After something. More than before something. It's almost like I, I get the, the aftershock. Your adrenaline comes down.
31:24 Speaker 03 Yeah, and like, did I say that right? Did I disappoint everyone?
31:27 Amy Poehler? Was it good? Do, yeah, did I even do it? Like, did it even happen?
31:33 Speaker 03 We're, we're dark, really. What is my name? What planet are we on?
31:39 Amy Poehler? Just be, just don't be there.
31:41 Speaker 03 I don't even remember the nineties.
31:43 Amy Poehler? Yeah, I think you're trying to be too present. Like, you're trying to be too in the moment. Be out of the moment. Be out of the room.
31:49 Speaker 03 I do think cause our generation is so aware of mental health, we're always trying to like, be like, okay, this is anxiety and this is PTSD and this is OCD. And a lot of it is true, but then there's a moment where it's like, and now let's, how do we cope?
32:02 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
32:02 Speaker 03 To not let it beat us and not let it suppress, like, who we wanna be.
32:07 Amy Poehler? Well, I think, and I'm sure like from your a- athlete days, like, there is a thing about your brain and, you know, everyone has different capacities for this. So I realize that, but there is something about your brain where you, if you start to tell your brain something, you can trick your brain for a short amount of time to get the thing done.
32:22 Speaker 03 Mm-hmm.
32:23 Amy Poehler? And, yes, if you start labeling the different, like, anxiety, OCD, this is this, this is this, it's happening again.
32:30 Speaker 03 Mm-hmm.
32:30 Amy Poehler? You're starting to tell your brain, like...
32:32 Speaker 04 We're doing it.
32:33 Amy Poehler? We're doing it again. We're here, we're doing it again.
32:35 Speaker 04 A hundred percent.
32:36 Amy Poehler? There is a little trick, sometimes it works for me, where being excited and being anxious are the same physical symptoms, physical feelings. So if you say, "Look at how excited I am," rather than "How anxious I am," it doesn't help when you're like at the dentist. And you're like, "I'm so excited to be at the dentist."
32:56 Speaker 03 They say a little bit of anxiety, especially in sports, is good.
32:59 Speaker 04 Yeah.
33:00 Speaker 03 And it helps you actually perform at more focused level.
33:02 Amy Poehler? Mm-hmm.
33:03 Speaker 03 So a little anxiety is important. Like, if you're ever not nervous before a gig, I get a little nervous. I'm like, "Someone's about to be loosey-goosey."
33:08 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
33:09 Speaker 04 No, that actually helped me when we were on tour, like, after my first panic attack. And then I would like take a beta blocker before, like, I'd be like, "Shoot, I hope it doesn't happen again." Hannah would always say to me, like, "It's good to be a little nervous. You care about what you're doing." And that truly would, like, calm me down.
33:25 Amy Poehler? Yes.
33:25 Speaker 04 She'd also push me out on stage with panic attack.
33:28 Speaker 03 I would literally launch her, like, bunt kick her onto the stage.
33:31 Amy Poehler? She'd be like, "Your adrenaline will kick in. We hope so." "Here you go." "Go ahead, honey. You got it." And also, doesn't it help you? Because taking care of somebody is a great distraction.
33:39 Speaker 03 Oh, I was obs- I wasn't the problem for like the first time ever. So, but I was like forgetting my shirt, because I was so obsessed with like, "Is Paige okay?"
33:47 Amy Poehler? Well, you might have a little ADHD, because you said you forget your shoe.
33:50 Speaker 04 I wish you didn't say that, because...
33:52 Speaker 03 I could talk about this forever.
33:53 Speaker 04 But it's all she says to me. She's like, "Well, I suffer from ADHD." And I'm like, "You've never seen a doctor."
34:00 Speaker 03 I wouldn't say suffer. I would say I thrive.
34:01 Speaker 04 You live with it.
34:02 Speaker 03 I thrive.
34:03 Speaker 04 I'm like, "You've never seen a doctor. You've only been given TikToks about this." And so I really need you to not, to stop bringing it up.
34:10 Amy Poehler? You're right. Everyone on TikTok tells me that I have it, or that they have it, or we all have it. And yeah, it is, I mean, but that is how I diagnose most things.
34:19 Speaker 04 Yeah, I'm like, "No, you just wanted to sleep an extra hour. You don't have ADHD. You literally just pressed snooze."
34:26 Speaker 03 No, I told my other friend, I was like, "I think I have ADHD." And she was like, "Yeah, everyone knows that about you." And I was like, "No one told me this whole time?"
34:34 Amy Poehler? You know Kim from Paperkite? She had a really, um, one of our producers, she had a really great thing where she said, "You can tell you have ADHD if someone says, 'We have to leave in five minutes, or we're gonna miss the flight,' and someone says, 'All right, let me just take a shower.'" That's her.
34:48 Speaker 03 That's the only time I start cleaning. I'm like, this
34:51 Amy Poehler? We have to leave in five minutes. It's like, great, let me take a shower. And it's like, what?
34:55 Speaker 03 Yeah.
34:55 Amy Poehler? That is, that's a good indication that maybe time is more of a contest.
34:59 Speaker 04 That's so true. You always do, you always have to go to the bathroom when we have to leave.
35:03 Speaker 03 Yes, I also, I also will like leave the shower just shaving one leg and find out like two days later. But these are all things that make me beautiful.
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37:47 Speaker 04 Yeah. I feel like for me, I think maybe this is because of reality TV. I'm very quick to want to like defend myself of like, oh, no, I didn't make a mistake. You're just not seeing it from my perspective. And like what I meant to do was this or what I meant to say was this. And I feel like in my 30s, I've not mastered at all, but I've worked harder to be like, and not everyone is going to like me and I don't need everyone to like me. I don't like everyone.
38:17 Speaker 03 I thought you were going to say, I don't like me.
38:18 Speaker 04 Yeah, well, that too. I'm like, imagine hating on me and I'm at home hating on me.
38:24 Speaker 04 So I feel like I've had to like overcome that of like, not everyone is going to like you and not everyone is going to think you're funny and not everyone's going to love your outfits. And that's okay because you think you're funny and you like what you're wearing. And so that's been like a struggle. I think reality TV like brought that up because really like the human brain, I'm not supposed to see 200 people commenting how much they hate me.
38:47 Speaker 03 And a scene that has no context.
38:49 Speaker 04 Yeah, like I'm not supposed, as a human, I'm not supposed to be able to read that.
38:53 Amy Poehler? No.
38:53 Speaker 04 And there's like this new thing on TikTok where it's like, we were never meant to see ourselves. Like mirrors were like invented, like we were never supposed to see what we look like.
39:02 Amy Poehler? Yes.
39:03 Speaker 04 And I feel like that with being so public and like social media, we really weren't supposed to see how people feel about us. And so I think that's.
39:12 Amy Poehler? Have you heard that saying, what other people think of you is none of your business?
39:16 Speaker 03 We were, I was about to say, our new thing is saying it's none of my business.
39:18 Amy Poehler? It's a fantastic way. And I mean, but, but when you're on a show, like you're still on Summer House, like it's hard to.
39:24 Speaker 04 It's hard.
39:25 Amy Poehler? Because you have to talk about people in real time, you have to hear.
39:27 Speaker 04 And then for a year after, like you don't get to move on until a year after.
39:33 Speaker 03 And it's hard not to take it personally because people are like talking about who you are as a person.
39:36 Speaker 04 Yeah, and I'm like, no, no, no, let me explain that one moment. And it's like, no, no, I don't need to explain that one moment, no one cares.
39:43 Amy Poehler? Yeah, but being misunderstood is painful.
39:46 Speaker 04 It's painful.
39:47 Speaker 03 I really feel like people who want to misunderstand you will, and people who want to understand you will. And that's like how you get a little peace with it.
39:55 Amy Poehler? Do you ever talk about, um, do you ever clarify things about the show on your podcast?
40:01 Speaker 04 Never.
40:02 Speaker 03 I've never said, I've never said what actually happened in my last season.
40:06 Speaker 04 We've never spoken about Summer House, we've never, we don't, honestly, because when we started, we were like one of the first podcasts to come out of Bravo. I think maybe there was like one or two others. And they were really adamant of like, this is not a Bravo podcast, do not speak about Bravo. And we were like, totally fine with us, like we weren't going to anyway, we wanted it to be more pop culture. And so now people are kind of surprised if they find us from Bravo, because they're like, they never talk about Bravo. And it's like, well, we weren't allowed to in the beginning, and now like, yeah, it doesn't really go with who we are and like what we talk about. So it's actually better that way.
40:43 Amy Poehler? Yeah, I mean, it definitely does, you're practicing what you're saying, which is you're just kind of letting go of things that you can't have control over.
40:49 Speaker 04 Because then it would be too, in the we, it's too much.
40:53 Speaker 03 Also, it's funny you brought up mistakes, because I feel like, I don't know, I'm gonna speak for you, but like, I really have just failed upwards. Does that make sense?
41:03 Amy Poehler? You've been fired so many times.
41:05 Speaker 03 And I love, every time. And I love, I'm, I'm sports quotes.
41:09 Amy Poehler? And I'm sorry to say this, but we're gonna ask you to leave.
41:11 Speaker 03 And this is the time.
41:12 Amy Poehler? We need to ask you to leave right now.
41:13 Speaker 03 I manifested it accidentally. But not to do like a Jordan quote, but like, they say like of all the shots.
41:19 Amy Poehler? Why, Timmy does a Jordan. Timmy wants to be like Jordan. Timmy Chalamet, you're like Jordan.
41:23 Speaker 03 Yeah. Timmy, Chalamet. Okay, so he, I need to stop. So I have ADHD. So he, um, he missed like a ton of the like shots to win the game. But people don't remember those. They remember the ones he made.
41:37 Amy Poehler? Well, you know what? Yeah, you know what I'm gonna say? You don't worry about doing a Jordan quote, because you didn't. You didn't do a Jordan quote. And it was Wayne Gretzky.
41:44 Speaker 03 As I was saying it, Amy Poehler looked me in the eye and went.
41:48 Amy Poehler? You miss 100% of the shots you don't take was Wayne Gretzky. Yeah. And not Jordan. But I bet Jordan did say something about shots.
41:54 Speaker 04 But I'm sure they're friends and they like each other, so it's all fine.
41:57 Speaker 03 Okay, I'm never gonna say a quote again. Um, with that said.
42:02 Speaker 04 And Obama actually said.
42:06 Speaker 04 Grab your hockey sticks, kid.
42:09 Speaker 03 Marilyn Monroe, you miss 100 of the shots you don't take.
42:11 Amy Poehler? Marilyn Monroe used to say.
42:13 Speaker 03 Audrey Hepburn.
42:16 Amy Poehler? Audrey Hepburn said, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
42:19 Speaker 03 Wait, can we also tell them? We misquoted Amy Poehler in our book.
42:23 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
42:24 Speaker 03 We also didn't ask permission. Did a full quote with Amy Poehler, said it wrong, and then.
42:30 Speaker 04 That's actually so funny, because my brother literally saw the back and was like, you didn't ask my permission. And I was like, what are you gonna sue me?
42:36 Amy Poehler? Oh, because your brother has a quote on the back of the book.
42:38 Speaker 04 Yeah, but I like wrote it, like for him.
42:41 Speaker 03 We got some fun quotes in the back of our book.
42:43 Amy Poehler? Gary, my sister isn't that funny. That's his quote.
42:46 Speaker 03 I wrote that.
42:49 Amy Poehler? Yeah, but we didn't like run it by him.
42:51 Speaker 03 Did you not think it? Did you not think it?
42:54 Amy Poehler? Okay, you talk about pop culture on your podcast. And because of that, I wanna just throw things out to you.
42:59 Speaker 04 Yeah.
43:00 Amy Poehler? Speed round.
43:01 Speaker 03 Yes.
43:01 Amy Poehler? Tell me your thoughts and opinions.
43:03 Speaker 04 Okay.
43:03 Amy Poehler? There's no wrong answers here.
43:05 Speaker 04 Okay.
43:05 Speaker 03 Like the last thing I did.
43:08 Speaker 03 She goes, "You got that wrong, but hopefully you do better this time."
43:11 Speaker 04 Incredible, incredible. Um, okay, um, uh, veneers. I don't think they ever look good.
43:17 Amy Poehler? Never?
43:18 Speaker 04 No. I think maybe there's like two people in Hollywood where I'm like, "Wait, they have really good veneers." But like, a normal person who can't afford it.
43:27 Amy Poehler? I do have veneers.
43:27 Speaker 04 Do you? Oh, they look great. You wouldn't know, but, cause you obviously have access to a great doctor. The normies out here shouldn't get them.
43:37 Amy Poehler? Too big, too white.
43:38 Speaker 04 Too big.
43:38 Speaker 03 Amy, when did you get them?
43:39 Amy Poehler? Well, I guess they're considered veneers. I had a chipped tooth.
43:42 Speaker 04 Okay.
43:43 Amy Poehler? And, um, when I went, when I got...
43:44 Speaker 03 That's the story you're going with.
43:47 Speaker 03 She goes, "I was in a bar fight."
43:49 Amy Poehler? Yeah, I got, um, I broke my nose in a car accident and, um...
43:53 Speaker 03 And I have a sinus infection.
43:54 Amy Poehler? I hit a deer and I, yeah, a sinus infection.
43:56 Speaker 03 So you have a chipped tooth?
43:57 Amy Poehler? No, I had a chipped tooth when I got on SNL and I thought, "No big deal, whatever, like a small chip."
44:01 Speaker 04 That's hilarious, yeah.
44:01 Amy Poehler? Yeah, exactly. Like, who cares? And then I saw myself on camera and I gasped. I was like, "Oh, no." Like, I look and, um, so I got my teeth fixed. I got veneers when I was on SNL.
44:10 Speaker 04 You would never know.
44:12 Amy Poehler? Just two, but I, but I have them.
44:13 Speaker 03 If you didn't get into Hollywood, do you think you would've gotten veneers?
44:18 Amy Poehler? Wow, that's a good question. Maybe not. I don't think so. I think like, you know, where I came from in Massachusetts and like, I don't know if I, I think I would just, wouldn't mind my chip, but seeing yourself on camera is a different...
44:32 Speaker 04 You know how like people hate hearing their own voice? Like even in a voicemail, I'm like, "Imagine watching yourself on TV." You're like, "That's what I present to the world?"
44:40 Amy Poehler? It's a night, it's really, really crazy.
44:41 Speaker 04 It's a real mind fuck.
44:42 Amy Poehler? Okay, so you gotta be careful with veneers.
44:44 Speaker 03 I get nervous when people shave it down and they have little like nubs.
44:48 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
44:48 Speaker 03 That makes me nervous.
44:49 Amy Poehler? I think that that doesn't happen as much anymore. I think they've really taken it back. They don't go such a shit.
44:54 Speaker 04 We don't know the science behind that.
44:55 Speaker 03 We don't know anything about veneers.
44:56 Amy Poehler? Okay, look into it.
44:57 Speaker 03 But we have, we like to do hot takes.
44:59 Speaker 04 We don't know anything about it, but we hate them.
44:59 Amy Poehler? And I also have to say, both of you, if I may, you both have great teeth.
45:03 Speaker 04 I thought you were gonna say, "You both need them."
45:06 Speaker 03 I have a doctor.
45:07 Amy Poehler? I'd like to talk to somebody who does. Dr. Keen, Beverly Hills.
45:13 Amy Poehler? You both have great teeth, so talking about veneers with great teeth isn't really fair.
45:18 Speaker 04 Yeah.
45:18 Speaker 03 True.
45:19 Amy Poehler? Okay? Because some of us don't have great teeth. Gel nails.
45:23 Speaker 03 Yes.
45:23 Speaker 04 Yeah.
45:24 Amy Poehler? Okay.
45:24 Speaker 03 Yes.
45:24 Amy Poehler? You love them.
45:25 Speaker 04 We love them.
45:26 Amy Poehler? But you're taking off of them.
45:27 Speaker 03 That's the thing, you just let them grow out.
45:29 Speaker 04 I was just gonna say, we never take them off.
45:31 Speaker 03 We never take it off.
45:31 Speaker 04 We just re-go.
45:32 Amy Poehler? Okay, okay, okay. How do you feel about running?
45:36 Speaker 04 From what?
45:37 Speaker 03 What problems are you running from?
45:39 Speaker 04 From?
45:39 Speaker 03 Who are you running from? What, we can do Pilates, that's a workout laying down with BDSM equipment.
45:45 Speaker 04 Actually, I'm gonna-
45:46 Speaker 03 We're not running. The only time I run is to get away from a man.
45:50 Amy Poehler? Okay, how do you feel about people who love dogs?
45:53 Speaker 03 Okay, you did that, you did, no, that was mean. You did it on purpose.
45:57 Amy Poehler? No, why? Do I know s-
45:59 Speaker 03 Because we're cat people and people are, it's very controversial.
46:01 Amy Poehler? Oh, okay, right, right, right.
46:02 Speaker 04 We're huge cat people.
46:03 Speaker 03 Okay, people who love dogs, I love dogs.
46:06 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
46:06 Speaker 03 I foster senior pets all the time. Get that on.
46:11 Speaker 04 Click that.
46:13 Speaker 03 People who love dogs, I love. People who say they hate cats.
46:16 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
46:17 Speaker 03 I don't like that.
46:18 Amy Poehler? That's not nice.
46:18 Speaker 04 They've never had a cat.
46:19 Speaker 03 It's always the dog, people, they're like, "I love dogs." But then Scruffy scratched me when I was four, I hate cats, I hate cats. And it's like, cats just want your consent.
46:28 Amy Poehler? Yeah, you're right. People think it's okay to say they hate cats. That's not, that's not nice.
46:32 Speaker 03 It's horrible.
46:33 Speaker 04 I love cats' PR, though. Like, I love that they're hated publicly because, like, that's their vibe. Like, they like that.
46:41 Speaker 03 If you hate cats, you hate women.
46:43 Speaker 04 And now we've said it.
46:45 Speaker 03 I wasn't gonna say it, I said it.
46:47 Speaker 04 And now we've gone there on the pod.
46:48 Speaker 03 And we went there.
46:49 Amy Poehler? When you're talking about traveling, how early do you like to get to the airplane, to the airport for a flight?
46:54 Speaker 04 Okay, that's another reason why I think we're pretty compatible. We have the same flight time. We're very big on boarding time. We like to know the boarding time and we like to be there an hour before it boards.
47:06 Speaker 03 I also am very lucky where I live in New York, I'm 20 minutes from LaGuardia.
47:11 Speaker 04 Yeah.
47:12 Speaker 03 So I kind of roll out of bed.
47:13 Amy Poehler? That's great.
47:14 Speaker 04 The world's best airport.
47:15 Speaker 03 And I'm besties with the clear people, I get high fives from them, they're like, "Oh no, good luck this weekend." And I, I-
47:22 Speaker 04 They're paid to bring you in.
47:24 Speaker 03 You don't think they care? You don't think they care? Those clear people are passionate.
47:27 Speaker 04 They are your names. They do want more people.
47:29 Speaker 03 They look at my soul.
47:30 Speaker 04 The screen says your name, that's how they know it. They didn't remember it, but...
47:35 Amy Poehler? They get paid for every person that goes through.
47:37 Speaker 03 They go Minneapolis, they go, "You know everything about me."
47:41 Speaker 04 They're like, "I'm looking at your flight information, ma'am."
47:44 Speaker 03 See, we're the same. We keep each other.
47:47 Speaker 04 Yeah, we're a pretty similar traveler.
47:49 Amy Poehler? Oh, that's really important. It's really important. Okay, what about avocado toast?
47:54 Speaker 04 I think avocado ruins a lot of really good things.
47:57 Amy Poehler? Really?
47:57 Speaker 03 This is Paige's hot take. She's... Paige, the people are gonna be so mad.
48:00 Speaker 04 I know. I think that... I don't know what year we were like, "Let's throw avocado on every sandwich," but I wish I paid attention more and stopped it. Because I don't need avocado on my turkey sandwich. It was gorgeous years prior. It's been a turkey sandwich forever. I don't need it now to be turkey and avocado.
48:20 Speaker 03 You don't have a mature palate, just say it.
48:22 Amy Poehler? Do you have like a baby palate? Like a little kid palate?
48:26 Speaker 04 No, don't listen to her.
48:28 Speaker 03 I'm so sorry.
48:30 Speaker 04 I will try way more things than her. And...
48:35 Speaker 03 What do you do?
48:36 Speaker 04 I'll try... I feel like I eat way more things than you. Like, try way more things.
48:40 Speaker 03 Not true.
48:41 Speaker 04 You eat Mexican food, and that's it.
48:43 Speaker 03 I do get hyper fixated on a meal. And if I like it, I'll eat it for a couple of weeks.
48:49 Speaker 04 A couple of years.
48:49 Speaker 03 Then I'll change.
48:51 Speaker 04 You've been having chili cheese for seven years.
48:54 Speaker 03 Look, I don't recommend it before a show. That's all I'm gonna say.
48:57 Amy Poehler? What is your favorite kind of sandwich? If you could have a perfect sandwich?
49:01 Speaker 03 Bacon, egg, and cheese, I'm so New York.
49:03 Amy Poehler? On what?
49:04 Speaker 03 Ooh, good question. Anything, but like, everything bagel, roll. Just bacon, egg, and cheese.
49:11 Speaker 04 My perfect sandwich would be like, prosciutto, mozzarella cheese, a little olive oil and vinegar on like a hard, like, good baguette.
49:21 Amy Poehler? Spoken like a person has their real teeth.
49:24 Speaker 04 I can bite into that.
49:26 Speaker 03 Can you not bite into stuff?
49:27 Amy Poehler? Well, you have to be careful when you have an ears.
49:29 Speaker 03 You have to cut.
49:29 Amy Poehler? You have to go a little slower. Like, you don't want to get, you don't want to come up on an apple too fast. Got it. Because they do, they, they can pop up.
49:38 Speaker 04 Yeah, they can pop up anywhere.
49:40 Amy Poehler? Okay, and the last one is, um, women who ask men to marry them.
49:43 Speaker 03 Picking your partner is the most important thing you do in your life? I'm not just willy-nilly waiting for a guy to spring it on me. I'm sitting down and having a serious discussion if you want to spend the rest of your life with me.
49:56 Amy Poehler? Yes, and the, the, the bigger thing of like, what do we expect? Like, expecting to be chosen? And, and waiting to be chosen rather than choosing. It's, it's complicated.
50:09 Speaker 04 Yeah.
50:10 Amy Poehler? But, but, but I, but also, but also, um, I do think there's a thing sometimes where, I mean, and, you know, straight cis marriage is a whole other conversation, like, who cares? But, um...
50:23 Speaker 03 Boring, no, it's very boring.
50:25 Amy Poehler? It is.
50:25 Speaker 03 It's not cool. It's chugi. Getting married is chugi now.
50:29 Amy Poehler? Yeah. Are we still saying chugi?
50:31 Speaker 03 No, that was chugi of me.
50:33 Speaker 04 It's funny because we also talk on the pod, like, obviously Hannah's married, and so like...
50:38 Speaker 03 We don't like to talk about it, though, it's very off-brand.
50:40 Speaker 04 It's so off-brand for her.
50:41 Speaker 03 Don't bring it up.
50:43 Speaker 04 Even if she says my husband, I'm like, what?
50:45 Speaker 03 You have a husb... We say boyfriend.
50:48 Speaker 04 But like, we talk about how like, people expect you to look the best you've ever looked on your wedding day, and then like, you'll never be that skinny or pretty ever again, like, this is your one day, or like, it's the best day of your life. And I remember Hannah's wedding, she was like, this is a great day, but like, I've had better. Like, you know, like, I've had a day, like, when she filmed her Netflix special, she was like, this is truly the best day of my life.
51:12 Speaker 03 I was high on beta blockers, but it was an amazing day.
51:15 Speaker 04 And so I think we're in a generation where it is like a little, it's shifting a little bit, where it's like, okay, your wedding day and your marriage isn't the best thing you're ever gonna do your whole life. And that's really put on women.
51:27 Amy Poehler? Yes.
51:27 Speaker 04 Where it's like, this is the best you're ever gonna look. This is the best weekend you're ever gonna have. Everyone's here for you, this is the last time that's ever gonna happen.
51:34 Amy Poehler? Yes.
51:34 Speaker 04 So like, the whole proposal thing, and like, a girl doing it to a guy... There's a rea- he hasn't said that he likes you then, that's why you're doing it, I feel like.
51:44 Amy Poehler? Well, I do feel like what you, what you two speak about a lot, and I feel like is, that's what I kinda what I mean about the freedom that comes from the women that are coming up behind me, is that the, the discussion about how gaslit we are all the time, that's it. The discussion in real time about how we get these crazy mixed messages, all the time. And it's like, push and pull back and be this way, but say what you want, but it's like
52:14 Speaker 03 I mean, being a female comedian is a fuck you to the system. They don't want you to call people out, say things that are out of line, make people uncomfortable. That's what we do as comics, make you think, take up space. That's why I love being a female comedian. And yeah, we get pushed back a lot, but that's like what our choice is. This is the life I wanna live. And I also think it's so cool you talked to our moms before, cause generationally, they only had so many options. I joke that icks are popular now, because like back then, you barely had a credit card. You couldn't have an ick with your husband.
52:48 Amy Poehler? You literally couldn't divorce your husband, it was illegal.
52:51 Speaker 03 Yeah, he starts singing Happy Birthday at a restaurant, you're like, la la la la la. Nowadays, if a guy gets like a little baby spoon, like, can we do my standup? A little baby spoon eating, eating an ice cream, you're like, yeah, divorce? And I'm taking all the money that I made.
53:03 Speaker 04 Yeah, get out of my house.
53:06 Amy Poehler? And I'm taking the money that we didn't, that we never share.
53:10 Amy Poehler? Okay, speaking of laugh, before you leave, I'm asking people what they're laughing at these days. What do you like look at, read, go see, I mean, I know you make each other laugh, Hannah.
53:21 Speaker 04 Hannah's text messages. When Hannah really goes off, here's the thing.
53:25 Amy Poehler? Can you share a text message?
53:26 Speaker 04 This is when I know, no, she's smart, she does voice notes. This is when I know.
53:31 Amy Poehler? I thought that was a boomer thing.
53:33 Speaker 04 No, we love a voice note.
53:36 Amy Poehler? But they disappear and then you can never.
53:39 Speaker 04 Good. No, we love that. This is when I know.
53:42 Speaker 03 In jail.
53:43 Speaker 04 Yeah. This is when I know Hannah's husband isn't in the city. Hannah's voice noting me like crazy. She's like, and then I figured this out and then I saw this and oh my God, I haven't brought this up to you.
53:52 Speaker 03 So. My mom will be like, you've been voice noting Paige for two hours. Pick up the phone.
53:57 Amy Poehler? Yeah.
53:57 Speaker 04 But that's invasive.
53:58 Amy Poehler? I don't like the phone. I don't like to talk on the phone.
54:01 Speaker 03 No.
54:01 Amy Poehler? And I don't like when people FaceTime me out of the blue.
54:04 Speaker 04 Yeah, that's aggressive.
54:06 Amy Poehler? But I think you guys don't mind it as much.
54:08 Speaker 03 We don't, but we are respectful of each other's boundaries.
54:11 Speaker 04 But once, if one of us does FaceTime each other out of the blue, it is the first thing we say when we answer the phone like, oh, okay.
54:18 Speaker 03 Okay. What's going on?
54:20 Speaker 04 Yeah, someone must be dead.
54:22 Speaker 03 But that's why there's not more FEMA pilots, because we don't like a dispatcher in our ear. We don't want to hear it. Text me.
54:28 Amy Poehler? Yeah, I know where I'm going. Thanks, I know where I'm going.
54:32 Speaker 03 Stop mansplaining how to land the plane.
54:34 Speaker 04 We also started doing this thing because like we stay in hotels all the time with each other. They're like, anytime one of us has to go to the other one's room, we think of like a line we're gonna say when we open the door. Like we have to have a bit going into it. Totally.
54:51 Speaker 03 I was like, I was wearing a tie, I think it was before we met you and we opened the door and I was like, I'm selling you insurance. And she was like, I just puked. So she said something.
54:59 Speaker 04 No, I was like, I think I'm pregnant.
55:03 Speaker 03 This is the thing, life is sad, so if you don't have a friend making you laugh, what are you here for?
55:07 Amy Poehler? A hundred percent. And what, so what do you, okay, so Paige gets Hannah's texts to make her laugh. What do you, what makes you laugh?
55:14 Speaker 03 Paige doesn't really make me laugh that much, but.
55:22 Speaker 03 I imagine this is where she finds out. I actually don't really enjoy the pod with her. No, Paige, a hundred percent makes me laugh so much.
55:29 Amy Poehler? You guys make each other laugh, but what else?
55:31 Speaker 04 Okay, like what TV are we watching and like what?
55:33 Amy Poehler? What do you do at night or like a, like?
55:36 Speaker 03 I just watched Detroiters. I thought it was the funniest thing ever.
55:39 Amy Poehler? So funny. Sam Richardson.
55:40 Speaker 03 I love comics who are really different from me. It's more, I get more like, it's more admirable because I'm like, I could never do that. So then I think it's really funny.
55:50 Speaker 04 I love watching standups. Who did I, I just watched two standups this week. I watched Chelsea Handler's, I watched Burt Kreisner's. Honestly, anything on TikTok, like TikTok is funny.
56:02 Speaker 03 Really funny.
56:03 Speaker 04 TikTok is the only social media app where when I log on to it, I never click my own profile. And I never click my notifications.
56:13 Speaker 03 You're not rewatching your videos to be like, was that funny?
56:16 Speaker 04 No, I'm never rewatching.
56:17 Speaker 03 Me neither.
56:19 Speaker 04 I'm obsessed with myself. I'm like, my story is so aesthetic today. My grid has never looked better. I'm commenting at everyone. Where TikTok, I really go to it to just laugh.
56:32 Amy Poehler? Same. I, I, I said this many times, but especially in the pandemic, wrapping back around in the pandemic. Like, that really saved me because there was lots of good comedy on TikTok.
56:42 Speaker 03 You've been on TikTok.
56:44 Amy Poehler? Oh, yeah.
56:45 Speaker 03 You've been on TikTok.
56:46 Speaker 04 Okay, I see you commenting gassing up the girls. You're doing great.
56:50 Amy Poehler? Also, was that hilarious moment where it was like, everyone was leaving? And so, you know, before we leave, I'm gonna just tell a couple of people that I think they're great.
56:58 Speaker 03 So cute.
56:59 Amy Poehler? But there's so many funny people.
57:00 Speaker 04 No, there's so many funny people.
57:01 Amy Poehler? So many funny people.
57:02 Speaker 03 I also, as a-
57:03 Speaker 04 The creativity, I'm like, how did you even think of that? That's hilarious.
57:08 Speaker 03 The women are particularly so funny because I say that for female standups, it's hard to be in the clubs at night. But that TikTok is like a safe, open mic. Where girls can just like, put their material out there.
57:19 Speaker 04 I think there's more funny women on TikTok than there are men. Because I do feel like women are competitive with each other, but there is a sense of like, we feel safe with each other. So it's like, I know that my TikTok is majority girls. So like, when I put something out, I'm like, oh, it's the girls will think this is funny. So I think that's, like, where guys, I don't know, they don't have that relationship with other guys.
57:43 Speaker 03 Do you like making TikToks?
57:44 Amy Poehler? Yeah, I love it.
57:45 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's fun.
57:46 Amy Poehler? I love it. And I feel like- I just was on it for so long and really liked it that I, I feel like there's a way, I mean, my biggest fear was to come on as some like, old lady being like, like it, the thing that drives me nuts are like, people that are like, I guess I should be doing this TikTok and you're like, beat it. It is actually like, a culture of people that work really hard. It's a lot of creators on there.
58:11 Speaker 03 And it's, it's all just comedy in a different form.
58:15 Amy Poehler? Form, yeah.
58:16 Speaker 03 Yeah. And having your stamp of approval legitimizes it.
58:20 Amy Poehler? Well, I don't know about that, but I love, but I do love it. And it is like, it is chookey and it is cringy. Like, if I get it wrong, but whatever, who cares? Like.
58:29 Speaker 03 I mean, you've never made a mistake in your life. Also, I can't wait to see you and Tina doing some TikToks on tour, continuing.
58:36 Amy Poehler? Well, she doesn't love to do them.
58:37 Speaker 04 Really?
58:38 Amy Poehler? No. So I always have to kind of convince her a little bit.
58:40 Speaker 04 I feel like I'm the Tina.
58:42 Speaker 03 I was, I didn't want to ask, yeah.
58:44 Amy Poehler? You think so?
58:45 Speaker 04 I think so. Because there's always a TikTok that Hannah's like, this is gonna be so funny. And I'm like, oh, get away from me.
58:51 Amy Poehler? Yeah, and whoever is the quieter one, right?
58:53 Speaker 04 Yeah.
58:54 Amy Poehler? Because, yeah, yeah.
58:55 Speaker 03 I also just have to say shout, shout out to animals. Animals are the most effortlessly, like I'll never be funnier than like a baby goat.
59:02 Speaker 04 Yeah. I've been trying to tell you that.
59:06 Speaker 04 You may look like one, but you're not one.
59:07 Speaker 03 I go, I'm not following a baby goat. I'm not following them. They're effortless, they don't care. They're everything we want to be.
59:15 Speaker 04 When we were on the Vanity Fair red carpet, we were the first to get our picture taken because we were literally there first. And so like me and Hannah are standing next to each other and we just noticed all the cameras go immediately off of us.
59:27 Speaker 03 And we're already having imposter syndrome.
59:29 Speaker 04 Someone really famous must have walked in. They literally don't give a shit about us. It was a dog. It was a dog.
59:34 Speaker 03 It was a dog.
59:35 Speaker 04 I go, I've waited my whole life for this moment and I'm losing to a dog?
59:41 Amy Poehler? Was it a famous dog?
59:43 Speaker 04 We don't know.
59:43 Amy Poehler? Was it?
59:44 Speaker 04 We stopped asking questions.
59:46 Speaker 03 We stopped asking questions. And then I saw the dog and I was like, I got it. That's a beautiful dog. It was a lab. Grew up in a nice home.
59:52 Amy Poehler? We were like, that tail blowout is better than ours.
59:55 Speaker 03 I'm like, how did the lab get a Dyson Airwrap?
59:59 Amy Poehler? And then it stood on the right side and it looked gorgeous.
1:00:02 Speaker 03 It took my job.
1:00:03 Amy Poehler? It took your job. Um, uh, thank you guys so much for doing this. This was so, so fun.
1:00:08 Speaker 03 Thank you for hanging with us, Amy. We love you.
1:00:11 Amy Poehler? You know, I love you back and I just, I can't wait for all the big things ahead for both of you in all different areas of the business that you're working.
1:00:19 Speaker 03 And we feel the same about you. It's, it sounds weird, but we feel like, are you just getting started?
1:00:26 Amy Poehler? Oh my god.
1:00:29 Amy Poehler? That would be such a great fake title for this podcast, like, "Just Getting Started."
1:00:35 Amy Poehler? "Just Getting Started?", question mark? Amy Poehler, "Just Getting Started"?
1:00:43 Amy Poehler? Wait, why? It's like, your face has to be like that for the joke. And then I'm like, I'm scales of justice and I'm holding like, like a baby bottle and like, uh, and like a tiny little gravestone and I'm like, "Just getting started."
1:01:02 Amy Poehler? Wait, that's... I'm hooked up to an IV and I'm like, "Just getting started."
1:01:05 Speaker 03 One of those sand clocks that just slowly go away of time.
1:01:11 Amy Poehler? There's a guy, I'm going like, cause I'm, I'm like in a, I'm in a, I'm in a baby doll dress. And I'm going, "Just getting started," and behind me is, um, the Grim Reaper just waiting for me.
1:01:21 Speaker 03 And botox getting injected.
1:01:25 Speaker 03 The Grim Reaper's like...
1:01:26 Amy Poehler? And I'm wearing pigtails and I'm in like, uh, just overalls and I'm like, "Just getting started."
1:01:32 Speaker 03 Wait, the Grim Reaper, I said.
1:01:35 Amy Poehler? Alright, we renamed the podcast.
1:01:36 Speaker 03 We have fun here.
1:01:37 Amy Poehler? Alright, thank you guys so much.
1:01:40 Amy Poehler? That was an awesome, super fun episode of Good Hang. I loved having the ladies here. It was a blast. And we talked a lot about a lot of things. And I, I, I love stand-up comedy, despite maybe some of the things I said in the podcast, no, but I have great respect for it. And, um, it made me think about the people that I'm watching and I would, uh, I would, uh, encourage everybody to check out Jordan Jensen if they haven't seen her work. She's a touring comedian right now and really specific funny voice, just great with crowds, improvises all the time, deeply interesting, funny woman who, um, yeah, I just wanted to give a shout out to, cause I think she's great. So, uh...
1:02:25 Amy Poehler? That's all. I never know how to finish these things. I never know how to end the podcast. So, okay, bye. You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss-Berman, and me, Amy Poehler. The show is produced by The Ringer and Paperkite. For The Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Kat Spillane, Kaya McMullin, and Aleia Zanarez. For Paperkite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell, and Jenna Weiss-Berman. Original music by Amy Miles.
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