#2505 - Tom Segura

Tom Segura is a comedian, actor, author, and restaurateur. He hosts “Your Mom’s House” with his wife, comedian Christina Pazsitzky, and “Two Bears, One Cave” with comedian Bert Kreischer. He is also the owner of Ciccio Bomba, a chain of Italian cafes with three locations in Austin, Texas, and the author of “I’d Like to Play Alone, Please: Essays.” Season two of his series “Bad Thoughts” is streaming on Netflix.www.netflix.com/title/81740857https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/tom-segura/id-like-to-play-alone-please/9781538704615/www.cicciobomba.comwww.youtube.com/@YMHStudioswww.ymhstudios.com Perplexity: Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at https://pplx.ai/rogan. Get a free welcome kit with your first subscription of AG1 at https://drinkag1.com/joerogan Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:02Speaker 00

  The Joe Rogan Experience. Training my day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.

• 0:13Speaker 01

  What's that name, dude?

• 0:14Joe Rogan?

  I watched, uh, two episodes of the new season.

• 0:17Speaker 01

  Oh, thanks, man.

• 0:18Joe Rogan?

  Ridiculous. It's so ridiculous, so you. That show is so you. I don't want to give anything away, but, uh, the dance one, I was fucking crying. I was crying. And the, uh, Freaky Friday one.

• 0:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, with Jamie.

• 0:34Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my God. Oh, my God, they're so fun.

• 0:37Speaker 01

  They're so fun.

• 0:38Joe Rogan?

  It seems so fun for you. Like...

• 0:41Speaker 01

  It's the most fun I have.

• 0:42Joe Rogan?

  It's like, it's so, it is one of the best examples of like, of one mind, like one person's mind in a show.

• 0:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 0:51Joe Rogan?

  Without like, a whole bunch of people saying, "Don't do that, don't do this."

• 0:55Speaker 01

  They gave us, they give us no restraints in the, in the craziest, greatest sense. Like, they really are like, "Do whatever you want to do."

• 1:03Joe Rogan?

  The Kevin Nealon one, the first one was so fucking ridiculous. It's so, it's so you.

• 1:09Speaker 01

  It's, it's, it's such a great time. The dance one, you know, I went to six rehearsals for that, dance rehearsals.

• 1:15Joe Rogan?

  Dancing is hard.

• 1:15Speaker 01

  It was so hard.

• 1:17Joe Rogan?

  Well, remember when you did the Tom, the Steven Seagal thing?

• 1:19Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And I had to do a bunch of rehearsals for that, too.

• 1:23Joe Rogan?

  For people that hadn't seen it, that's, uh, you and Burt, Burt made a dance video. Like, you guys had a competition. See who makes the best one?

• 1:29Speaker 01

  Well, he was just saying we should all do one. And then, and we were, I was like, "Yeah, okay." And then he just dropped one. So he, there was no like, "Let's both do one." And then he was like, "I'm a better dancer." And I was like, "Eat shit, dude."

• 1:44Joe Rogan?

  There's something about him saying he's better at something that's infuriating.

• 1:48Speaker 01

  It's so crazy. Cause it's just, um, it's just like wild, unhinged confidence, you know?

• 1:55Speaker 01

  And the truth is, I gotta give him his credit. He is capable of so much of this stuff, too.

• 2:00Joe Rogan?

  Well, he's a great athlete.

• 2:01Speaker 01

  Great.

• 2:02Joe Rogan?

  That's why he's so confident about stuff.

• 2:04Speaker 01

  He dropped, um, he dropped a bunch of weight, and then in our, we did our 5K a few weeks ago for the Netflix is a Joke. We did a 5K again. From last year to this year, he dropped 16 minutes off of his time.

• 2:17Joe Rogan?

  Holy shit.

• 2:18Speaker 01

  I was like, dude.

• 2:19Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy.

• 2:20Speaker 01

  He dropped 50 pounds, too.

• 2:21Joe Rogan?

  Can you imagine doing a 5K with a 50-pound vest on?

• 2:24Speaker 01

  It's crazy. It's really.

• 2:26Joe Rogan?

  I think about that every time I work out with a vest on, and my vest that I usually work out with is only 25 pounds.

• 2:31Speaker 01

  25, yeah.

• 2:32Joe Rogan?

  Which is like a normal amount that people lose.

• 2:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:34Joe Rogan?

  Like, this is crazy how much harder everything is.

• 2:36Speaker 01

  So much harder, yeah. It's great to wear those on like a hike, and then you take it off and you're like, oh my god.

• 2:42Joe Rogan?

  I have a 35-pounder I wear when I walk the dog, and then I have another one that's this, uh, it's an actual backpack frame that I put plates on it, and I can get it up to 90 pounds.

• 2:52Speaker 01

  I did a hike with a 50 on, and I had to take that shit off.

• 2:55Joe Rogan?

  It's fucking hard, man.

• 2:56Speaker 01

  Really hard.

• 2:57Joe Rogan?

  The 45, I do with one 45-pound plate, so like the backpack itself is probably about four pounds, and then the plate is like another 45.

• 3:03Speaker 01

  That shoulder-neck area just starts to just go on you.

• 3:06Joe Rogan?

  It's rough.

• 3:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's really rough.

• 3:07Joe Rogan?

  I do it before hunting season, though, because it's like the best thing to prepare you

• 3:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:11Joe Rogan?

  for actually having a backpack on in the mountains.

• 3:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:14Joe Rogan?

  Like, because you don't realize how, you're carrying a bow, you're carrying, I don't pack my whole camp on my back. Like, some guys, when they go out into the backcountry for like eight, 10 days, they'll have a 80-pound, 60-pound pack because they've got their food for like a week in there, and then they have like their bedding, and they have like some kind of a shelter.

• 3:34Speaker 01

  Do you go hunt like that, like that level?

• 3:36Joe Rogan?

  No, I don't do that anymore. I've done it a few times.

• 3:38Speaker 01

  You have?

• 3:39Joe Rogan?

  But I don't like it.

• 3:41Speaker 01

  My boys are hitting me up, like they want to go hunting.

• 3:43Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 3:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, because I take them shooting, but we just shoot targets.

• 3:47Joe Rogan?

  Oh, well, we have a lease out here. We could take you pig hunting.

• 3:49Speaker 01

  Oh, my goodness.

• 3:50Joe Rogan?

  They have to kill them. They have so many of them, dude. They're just, it's the craziest infestation of animals you've ever seen. You hear them in the bushes.

• 4:00Joe Rogan?

  They sound like demons. They're everywhere. There's so many of them, dude.

• 4:04Speaker 01

  That's crazy.

• 4:05Joe Rogan?

  Texas has millions and millions of pigs.

• 4:08Speaker 01

  Is it really that money?

• 4:09Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. I don't even know what the full number is. Like, but they don't know because it goes up every month. So the thing is, like, wild pigs have as many as three litters of year, and they could have as many as six piglets per litter.

• 4:21Speaker 01

  Jesus.

• 4:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and they start giving birth at six months old.

• 4:24Speaker 01

  And then do they do the thing, cause like with a lot of, um, with a lot of, you know, animals that they say you can hunt these, it's because they are destroying like

• 4:33Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. destroying everything.

• 4:36Speaker 01

  Really?

• 4:36Joe Rogan?

  So what is the number? 2.6 to 4 million wild pigs. Isn't that nuts? That's in Texas. That's just Texas. That's just Texas. 2.6 to 4 million is fucking bonkers.

• 4:50Speaker 01

  How long does that hunting season last here?

• 4:51Joe Rogan?

  It's 100% all day long, at night. You shoot them with night vision. Yeah, you can shoot them, you can shoot them every day, all day.

• 5:00Speaker 01

  The only time I've ever hunted in my life was hog hunting in Florida.

• 5:04Joe Rogan?

  Well, they're, they taste great. I mean, like, barbecued pig, like, if you do it right. You have to be careful because you can get trichinosis if you undercook it. It's not like pork that you get from a restaurant. They're eating everything. They, they eat each other. Like, if one pig dies, they, sometimes they die in fights. They fight with each other and they die, or sometimes they get hit by a hunter and they live, and then they die, and then they, the pigs eat them. So they'll eat dead deers, they'll eat skunks, raccoon. Anything, anything, anything.

• 5:33Speaker 01

  Jesus has to cook it well.

• 5:34Joe Rogan?

  You gotta cook the shit out of it. But if you eat a pig that's been eating egg corns, oh, they're delicious. I got one in California once, the first pig that I shot, and we smoked it on this, uh, Traeger, like, slow smoked a ham. Oh, it was sensational. So good, it was so good, dude. It's like a darker meat than pork that you get from the store.

• 5:54Speaker 01

  I'll, I'll, um, I'll, I gotta take them, cause they're asking. I took, I took.

• 6:00Joe Rogan?

  There's a good friend of mine named Jesse Griffiths. He owns Dai Dui Restaurant. And he's an awesome chef, like an amazing chef. And Dai Dui, if you've never been there before, you gotta go there. It's fucking incredible. And it's a lot of his, like, Texas wild game that he serves. He serves, like, Neil Guy, like, which is like, so there's only animals that you can serve that you hunt are ones that people own, like exotics, or pigs. So he has, like, wild boar sausage.

• 6:30Speaker 01

  He has a place here?

• 6:31Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's called Dai Dui.

• 6:33Speaker 01

  Oh, I think I have that written down on my list.

• 6:34Joe Rogan?

  It's legit. What I was gonna say is Jesse, he has a cooking school.

• 6:40Speaker 01

  It is. It's number three on, it's on my list.

• 6:42Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it's super legit. It's one of the first places I went when I moved here.

• 6:46Speaker 01

  Really?

• 6:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, because he had been on my friend Steve Rinella's podcast. And then he came on my podcast, and when he was on Steve's, I was like, God, that guy's so interesting. Who is that guy? And then he introduces me to him. And then we went hunting together, Steve and I, in South Texas, like, right on the Mexican border. And Jesse went too, and Jesse cooked for us. Oh my God, it was sensational.

• 7:07Speaker 01

  Oh my God.

• 7:07Joe Rogan?

  He's so good. He cooks diver ducks. And diver ducks are kinda gross, because they're the ones that go under the water and they eat all the mulch at the bottom and stuff. But what he does is he has some kinda crazy marinating process. So he marinates them for, like, an extended period of time, and then he grilled them, and oh.

• 7:25Speaker 01

  And Dai Dui serves what kinda food?

• 7:27Joe Rogan?

  It's mostly, it's like, they have steaks, they have fish, they have everything, but it's mostly Texas food.

• 7:33Speaker 01

  Texas food, okay.

• 7:33Joe Rogan?

  Like, Texas redfish, Texas wild hog. He has Neil Guy ceviche.

• 7:39Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 7:39Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it's so good.

• 7:41Speaker 01

  Is there anything better than befriending a chef?

• 7:43Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he's-

• 7:43Speaker 01

  Like, it's the greatest.

• 7:44Joe Rogan?

  He's a great guy, too. And what I was gonna say is he has a whole school, where, what is it called, Jamie?

• 7:51Joe Rogan?

  Um, something's. We'll figure it out. Jamie will find it. But he has this school where he'll teach you how to hunt. Teaches you how to butcher the animal, how to break it down into cuts, and then he teaches you how to cook it.

• 8:05Speaker 01

  Really?

• 8:05Joe Rogan?

  Yep. And he does it with a small amount of people. So it's like, you know, six, eight people or something in a, in a small group. And they'll take from the beginning. Like, I've never shot a gun before. Fine. Don't worry about it. From the beginning. This is how you use a rifle.

• 8:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:19Joe Rogan?

  This is the safety. Make sure you never point the gun at anything other than the ground, never point it at a person, even if your finger's nowhere near the trigger. All the safety stuff. And then takes you to a range, shows you how to sight it in, how to shoot the rifle, and then they take you hunting.

• 8:33Speaker 01

  See, that, the most imposing, I think, part of, of, um.

• 8:36Joe Rogan?

  New school of traditional cookery. That's it.

• 8:39Speaker 01

  The most imposing part of hunting to me is what do you do after the, after you shoot the animal?

• 8:43Joe Rogan?

  Uh, I, I can teach you some of that, too. Show me some pictures here. Some of the yummy pictures. Like, he, he barbecues. They're like, his food is so, look at that, dude. Come on, son. What is that? Like, some sort of a pork, what is this?

• 8:56Speaker 03

  Whitetail boar.

• 8:58Joe Rogan?

  Oh, so, so it's whitetail, a doe, and a big fatty boar.

• 9:02Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 9:03Joe Rogan?

  And so, what is he doing? He's making dried chiles and onions. Oh. So nice. And like, unlike a lot of people.

• 9:13Speaker 01

  Oh, my god.

• 9:13Joe Rogan?

  He likes, like, old boars. He like, like, a lot of people, they say, oh, you gotta shoot a young one. You know, he's like, no, no, no, I like the old ones. Cause it's like, real flavor to me. You just gotta know what you're doing.

• 9:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, yeah, he knows what he's doing.

• 9:25Joe Rogan?

  Do you like cooking?

• 9:26Speaker 01

  I do like cooking. I haven't, I used to cook more, but I do, I, I enjoy the process. I love, I love getting a recipe, getting the ingredients together, and, and cooking a meal.

• 9:35Joe Rogan?

  Well, then you'll love doing this.

• 9:37Speaker 01

  I would love to try that.

• 9:38Joe Rogan?

  Cause it'll be something that you shot yourself.

• 9:40Speaker 01

  Oh, my god. Hook me up with him, please. I would love to.

• 9:42Joe Rogan?

  And on top of it, you're literally helping the environment.

• 9:46Speaker 01

  That's cool.

• 9:46Joe Rogan?

  They have to be killed.

• 9:48Speaker 01

  Yeah. Um, and I'm telling you, these guys are asking me on a daily basis.

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• 12:44Joe Rogan?

  Try it for free today at ziprecruiter.com/rogan. That's ziprecruiter.com/rogan. ZipRecruiter. Meet your match on ZipRecruiter. You know, Taylor Sheridan, the guy who produced the Daleston? Yeah, sure. He's a friend of mine and he has a giant ranch. It's crazy. Yeah, I think he has the biggest ranch in Texas. Yeah, and he had a pig problem. So he literally brought in these fucking special ops guys. And they trained, like, like as if they were going to go attack insurgents. On a mission, yeah. To kill pigs. Really? And they, yeah, they plotted it all out. They strategized. They made a plan. And they went out and they fucking annihilated like a bunch of pigs. That's pretty fucking rad. Well, pretty, yeah, in pretty violent ways. I'm sure. I'm sure.

• 13:29Joe Rogan?

  There's some crazy videos online of people using thermite. Do you know what? No, not thermite. What's that stuff called, Jamie, that blows up? Tannerite. Tannerite? Tannerite. That's how they were blowing up the pigs? So what they do is they'll set up a feeder. Yeah. And then at the feeder, they have Tannerite. And so like when the feeders go off, the animals hear it and then they run towards the feeder. And usually the feeder is for deer and then the pigs usually kick the deer. And the deer just say, fuck this, and they run out of there. And you got like 30, 40 pigs. And so they're fucking blowing these pigs to smithereens. Bro, it's so wrong. But see if you can find any videos of one where they're like on a feeder. Because the camera's like really close. The camera's like 20 yards from it. Holy shit. Yeah, like these. Like, watch this. This is so fucked up.

• 14:12Speaker 01

  Oh my god, they're just disintegrated.

• 14:15Joe Rogan?

  And this is one of the beautiful things about Texas, that's totally illegal.

• 14:17Speaker 01

  Totally illegal.

• 14:18Joe Rogan?

  Totally illegal. You can shoot them out of helicopters, too.

• 14:21Speaker 01

  And they needed to go.

• 14:22Joe Rogan?

  Oh, they have to go.

• 14:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:24Joe Rogan?

  There are so many of them, dude. When I take you to the lease that we have with my friend Tyler from archery country, um, when you go there, as you're walking, you hear them in the bushes.

• 14:35Joe Rogan?

  They sound like monsters.

• 14:36Speaker 01

  That's where you're hunting now?

• 14:37Joe Rogan?

  That's where you can hunt. Yeah, I want to take you. Yeah, we have a lease there.

• 14:40Speaker 01

  Oh, nice.

• 14:41Joe Rogan?

  It's like an hour, 20 minutes from here, hour and a half.

• 14:43Speaker 01

  I went a couple of weeks ago to somebody's ranch.

• 14:45Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 14:46Speaker 01

  It was fucking awesome.

• 14:47Joe Rogan?

  It's pretty cool.

• 14:48Speaker 01

  It was so cool. And like, he had his own range set up there. Which was so fucking rad.

• 14:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's the dream.

• 14:55Speaker 01

  And we set up, um, I set up my youngest. So we were shooting like pistols, and then the guy had the new DevGru SEAL Team Six rifle. And we laid, my son laid on the bed of the pickup, and he was like, just ping, ping, ping, ping. He was like, I was 18 for 18. I was like, yeah, dude, you're ready to go.

• 15:16Joe Rogan?

  How old is he?

• 15:16Speaker 01

  Seven.

• 15:17Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my god. Yeah. That's so exciting for a seven-year-old to be able to do something like that.

• 15:22Speaker 01

  It was so exciting, man.

• 15:23Joe Rogan?

  And if you could take him and he could shoot a pig, and then you guys can like have baby back ribs for dinner.

• 15:27Speaker 01

  It's gonna change his whole, yeah.

• 15:29Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. He'll love it. He's gonna go nuts for it. It's very exciting.

• 15:32Speaker 01

  Speaking of violence, I was, um, I was, I was reading and researching, uh, Uday Hussain. Man.

• 15:40Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, dark.

• 15:42Speaker 01

  He's the darkest.

• 15:43Joe Rogan?

  The evilest. Him and his brother.

• 15:45Speaker 01

  But Uday was the worst.

• 15:46Joe Rogan?

  He was the worst?

• 15:46Speaker 01

  He was the worst, yeah. He was the eldest. Cause I keep reading about dictators, you know? And I was, I was reading about Idi Amin and Mussolini, Stalin. And then you get to Hussain. Hussain's like a really interesting story, like from birth, right? His mother didn't want him, which is a very kind of unique thing, like a mother rejecting her own.

• 16:07Joe Rogan?

  Why didn't you want him?

• 16:08Speaker 01

  He, his father had died before he was born, and she thought, this, I don't want this kid. And so when, when she was, when he was born, she was like, he's a, like a devil child.

• 16:22Joe Rogan?

  Oh, Jesus Christ.

• 16:23Speaker 01

  And so she rejected him from birth.

• 16:24Joe Rogan?

  Meanwhile, she was right.

• 16:26Speaker 01

  She was kind of right.

• 16:27Joe Rogan?

  Isn't that crazy?

• 16:27Speaker 01

  It is, it is crazy.

• 16:29Joe Rogan?

  Do you think she made him that way?

• 16:30Speaker 01

  I think, usually when you see like these really...

• 16:35Speaker 01

  Horrifically violent people and as adults, there's, there's almost always childhood trauma and neglect.

• 16:43Joe Rogan?

  I'm sure.

• 16:44Speaker 01

  So that formula is almost always there.

• 16:46Joe Rogan?

  So it's a self fulfilling prophecy for her?

• 16:48Speaker 01

  I think it kind of is. And he was.

• 16:50Joe Rogan?

  Or maybe she just fucking knew, maybe she had some gypsy instincts.

• 16:54Speaker 01

  Had a feeling.

• 16:55Joe Rogan?

  She just knew. This one is a bad one.

• 16:58Speaker 01

  But he was violent from a very young age and.

• 17:01Joe Rogan?

  Well, he was rejected from a very young age.

• 17:02Speaker 01

  Exactly. And he was an enforcer and, you know, he killed somebody as a teen.

• 17:07Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 17:08Speaker 01

  But all of his violence while like president, what had, you know, it was like politically motivated. It was like to stay in power. But Uday was just a sadist.

• 17:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 17:22Speaker 01

  Like he just enjoyed killing for someone that looked at him wrong.

• 17:27Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he would find women that were getting married.

• 17:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 17:30Joe Rogan?

  He would steal them, rape them, then feed them to his dogs.

• 17:33Speaker 01

  Mm hmm. He threw one off a hotel rooftop one time.

• 17:37Joe Rogan?

  Phew.

• 17:38Speaker 01

  He killed a chef for over salting the food, like right there in the kitchen, shot him in the head.

• 17:43Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my God.

• 17:44Speaker 01

  He, like he, he one time killed a guy at a party in front of the president of Egypt. So the president was visiting Iraq. Mubarak was visiting and he beat this guy and then shot him in the head at the party.

• 17:57Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my God.

• 17:58Speaker 01

  Bro, you gotta get out of here. And then one time he went to a family party and he was pissed at his uncle and he pulled out a submachine gun and shot him. He shot him in the leg and they had to amputate it, but he sprayed and he killed six other people.

• 18:15Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my God.

• 18:16Speaker 01

  Just wild, crazy. And then he was in charge of like the country's athletics, you know, he was like chairman of the Olympic team.

• 18:23Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 18:24Speaker 01

  And so he was like torturing athletes. He was just running wild.

• 18:28Joe Rogan?

  Can you imagine a serial killer that's the prince of a country?

• 18:32Speaker 01

  It's just absolutely insane.

• 18:35Speaker 03

  The paragraph is about the Olympic team stuff he would do?

• 18:37Joe Rogan?

  He had a lifelong obsession with brutal torture and murder and would brutally torture athletes whenever they failed to win a match. When athletes would fail to get in a soccer tournament. He would force them to repeatedly kick a concrete soccer ball. Athletes who lost matches would be repeatedly dragged through a gravel pit then immersed in a sewage tank to induce infection in their wounds. Uday loved torturing and killing, and he would sometimes flog the athletes for three days if they failed. Iron maidens may have never been used in medieval times, but they were frequently used by Uday to punish athletes. Oh my god, dude.

• 19:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, he was, yeah.

• 19:13Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god.

• 19:14Speaker 03

  It's just about that. There's other stuff here too.

• 19:16Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 19:17Speaker 03

  Egyptian president thing.

• 19:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. What's fucking crazy is like, how long did he do that for?

• 19:23Speaker 01

  I mean, he was, he was born in sixty-four and he died in what, oh-three?

• 19:30Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god, listen to this one. Scroll up a little bit. According to his chief bodyguard, when Uday learned one of his close comrades who knew of his many misdeeds was planning to leave Iraq, he invited him to his thirty-seventh birthday and had him arrested. An eyewitness at the prison where the man was held said members of Uday's militia grabbed his tongue with pliers and sliced it off with a scalpel so he could not talk. A maid who cleaned one of Uday's houses said she once saw him lop off the ear of one of his guards and then use a welder's torch on his face. His bodyguards later say that at least two hundred people died at his parties every year. What?

• 20:05Speaker 01

  So the worst thing-

• 20:06Joe Rogan?

  Two hundred people died at his parties every year?

• 20:09Speaker 01

  Would be to be invited to his parties.

• 20:11Joe Rogan?

  You imagine you get that invite and you can't, you can't not go.

• 20:14Speaker 01

  You definitely can't.

• 20:14Joe Rogan?

  It'll definitely kill you.

• 20:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 20:16Joe Rogan?

  So you gotta hope you're one of the, you know, people that don't.

• 20:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 20:20Joe Rogan?

  Jesus Christ.

• 20:21Speaker 03

  He was sweating and he lashed him.

• 20:24Joe Rogan?

  He was a stickler for personal hygiene. Recall the butler. He hated the smell of sweat. One summer day, Uday stopped the butler and said, "What the hell's that smell?" Uday ordered five falakwa lashes on the butler's right foot and five on his right armpit. Oh my god.

• 20:39Speaker 01

  Oh my god.

• 20:39Speaker 03

  Let's read this part.

• 20:41Joe Rogan?

  At his boat club, Uday kept a monkey named Luisa in a cage in the kitchen. Luisa had a taste for whiskey. It was an angry drunk. If one of Uday's friends passed out in the course of an evening, or was caught napping, says a butler, Uday would have the friend thrown in the cage with Luisa, who would scratch at the poor inebriate's face.

• 21:00Speaker 01

  Jesus Christ, dude.

• 21:01Joe Rogan?

  Jesus Christ.

• 21:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:02Joe Rogan?

  How crazy is that? Two hundred every year died at his parties?

• 21:06Speaker 01

  I mean, yeah.

• 21:07Joe Rogan?

  So he had parties all the time then?

• 21:08Speaker 01

  All the time, yeah.

• 21:09Joe Rogan?

  And just would kill people at his parties?

• 21:11Speaker 01

  And the music would have to keep going, and you would have to... One time he killed a guy for not laughing hard enough at his joke. So like, at a party. So he told a joke and people laughed, and the guy didn't laugh hard enough. And he shot him in the head at the party.

• 21:24Joe Rogan?

  Holy fuck.

• 21:24Speaker 01

  And then he was like, looked at everybody, everyone was like, you gotta keep like, like having a good time.

• 21:30Joe Rogan?

  Holy fuck, dude.

• 21:31Speaker 01

  Because then you get it for reacting the wrong way.

• 21:34Joe Rogan?

  How many people did he kill?

• 21:36Speaker 01

  Oh my god. It's just... And they knew he was demonic, like they knew he was fucked.

• 21:42Joe Rogan?

  But he's my boy.

• 21:43Speaker 01

  He's my son.

• 21:44Joe Rogan?

  What do I do?

• 21:45Speaker 01

  What do I do?

• 21:45Joe Rogan?

  What can I do?

• 21:46Speaker 01

  He's first in line.

• 21:47Joe Rogan?

  What can I do? He's going to be king someday.

• 21:49Speaker 01

  Someday this will all be his. Can you imagine?

• 21:52Joe Rogan?

  Crazy.

• 21:52Speaker 01

  If he had just taken over, like...

• 21:54Joe Rogan?

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• 22:39Joe Rogan?

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• 22:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 22:57Joe Rogan?

  I wonder how old he was when he killed his first person?

• 22:59Speaker 01

  Oh, probably teen like his dad, probably. If not, it was definitely by the time he was like 20. And they would just, you know, the boys would just run through that country with like unlimited funds, unlimited access, and no repercussions whatsoever.

• 23:19Joe Rogan?

  Wild.

• 23:20Speaker 01

  Yeah. It's like the worst formula for that personality trait.

• 23:23Joe Rogan?

  And it's probably never been, there's never been a time where you had access to the kind of guns that they had, the kind of weapons, cars.

• 23:33Speaker 01

  And squads. They had kill squads. You know, he had his own kill squad.

• 23:37Joe Rogan?

  Jesus Christ.

• 23:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, he was probably the most, I mean, in modern times, the most sadistic guy in power that we've seen, I think. I don't think there's anyone.

• 23:47Joe Rogan?

  No one even sounds close to that.

• 23:49Speaker 01

  No. Idi Amin was pretty crazy, too. He was pretty crazy.

• 23:53Joe Rogan?

  Imagine if that guy got a nuke.

• 23:55Speaker 01

  Uh, Uday?

• 23:56Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 23:56Speaker 01

  Oh, no. Yeah.

• 23:57Joe Rogan?

  Hundred percent would use it.

• 23:58Speaker 01

  Day one, maybe.

• 23:59Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, hundred percent.

• 24:00Speaker 01

  We'll see what happens.

• 24:01Joe Rogan?

  You know how crazy that is?

• 24:03Speaker 01

  Yeah. Which is why you want to keep powers in check when it comes to like, like when certain people rise to power, why everybody goes, we can't let this guy.

• 24:12Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 24:12Speaker 01

  Get access. Yeah.

• 24:13Joe Rogan?

  That guy.

• 24:14Speaker 01

  That guy. Yeah.

• 24:16Joe Rogan?

  Well, that is a crazy thing about Saddam, because how old was Saddam when they killed him?

• 24:19Speaker 01

  He had to have been, what, 60s or 70? Was he 70 yet?

• 24:23Joe Rogan?

  So if he, let's say he was 70, he had maybe 20 years left.

• 24:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, because on your way out is probably when you want to do it, right?

• 24:31Joe Rogan?

  And maybe Uday would have fucking taken him out if it took too long, you know? He'd probably, he'd probably push him off a cliff or something.

• 24:38Speaker 01

  Easily.

• 24:39Joe Rogan?

  My father fell hiking.

• 24:41Speaker 01

  I miss him so much. Anyway.

• 24:43Joe Rogan?

  Anyway.

• 24:44Speaker 01

  And don't forget his dad used mustard gas on his own people, nerve agent.

• 24:51Joe Rogan?

  Well, this, imagine what life was like thousands of years ago.

• 24:56Speaker 01

  Especially in one of those, like, under one of those regimes?

• 24:59Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 24:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:00Joe Rogan?

  There was always people like that. There's always been horrible, evil rulers.

• 25:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, what's his name? The Impaler?

• 25:07Joe Rogan?

  Oh, Vlad. Vlad Tepes. Yeah.

• 25:09Speaker 01

  God.

• 25:09Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he was dark, dude. He would, uh, just for intimidation, he would set up geometric patterns of poles, uh, so that like when the enemy was coming close to where his, his country was, as they were entering into the area, he would have geometric patterns of poles with all of the soldiers that he killed.

• 25:30Speaker 01

  Impaled, right?

• 25:31Joe Rogan?

  All of them. Some of them still alive. And so you're talking like thousands and thousands and thousands. It goes on for miles and miles. He would have like the entire road, like every four hundred feet or something like that, be a guy on a pole.

• 25:44Speaker 01

  So you're like, where the fuck are we going?

• 25:46Joe Rogan?

  And so you want to talk about morale killer.

• 25:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:49Joe Rogan?

  Like you're realizing how successful this guy's already been at killing people who came this way.

• 25:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:54Joe Rogan?

  And then you're, you know, being forced. Here's some farmer.

• 25:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:58Joe Rogan?

  Who got conscripted.

• 25:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:59Joe Rogan?

  What'd you read, Jeremy?

• 26:00Speaker 03

  This, at his parties, what you're saying, like, you know, you have to go to?

• 26:04Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 26:04Speaker 03

  He made you drink.

• 26:06Joe Rogan?

  Of course.

• 26:06Speaker 03

  And there was a special drink he came up with.

• 26:09Joe Rogan?

  The cup of friendship.

• 26:12Joe Rogan?

  It's called the cup of friendship.

• 26:13Speaker 03

  He'd line the entertainers up and they gave them ten minutes to drink it.

• 26:17Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god. It's ninety percent alcohol, sometimes including drugs.

• 26:22Speaker 03

  And if you didn't, there were punishments.

• 26:24Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god. Having their hair and eyebrows shaving off, being beaten enough to stand without touching their faces. Oh my god.

• 26:31Speaker 03

  So there's also, I was reading, he, there was an assassination attempt in nineteen ninety-six and he was shot somewhere between seven and seventeen times.

• 26:38Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god.

• 26:39Speaker 03

  The secretary said he got way worse after that.

• 26:41Joe Rogan?

  Oh, really?

• 26:42Speaker 03

  So there's a lot of, people were saying he was impotent and that made him, he did not like those.

• 26:46Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he got shot in the dick.

• 26:47Speaker 03

  He did not like those claims.

• 26:49Joe Rogan?

  Uh-oh.

• 26:49Speaker 03

  And some of the, that's, I didn't read, some of this is real fucked up. Like, he was taping some of these, uh, rapings.

• 26:56Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 26:56Speaker 03

  He had blackmail and stuff. It's all very fucked up.

• 27:00Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my god.

• 27:01Speaker 03

  On to the next one.

• 27:02Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god.

• 27:03Speaker 01

  So like, but like, usually those stories about that type of behavior are from like six hundred years ago. You know what I mean? Like, just like an older time where you're like, oh, that was just a different moral compass existed. And then you kind of go to now, you're like, that was, that was not long ago. That was twenty years ago.

• 27:21Joe Rogan?

  Sony Handycam. Someone's got someone there filming it.

• 27:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, he would, and he would send it, when he sent his kill squad to do stuff, he would always be like, record it, so I can watch it later.

• 27:30Joe Rogan?

  Oh, Jesus Christ.

• 27:32Speaker 01

  And they would just, you know, cut people's ears off and shit.

• 27:36Joe Rogan?

  How did he die?

• 27:37Speaker 01

  He died, um, in the, in post-war, was it a bombing? I think it might have been a bombing, right?

• 27:44Speaker 03

  Uh, they went after him, I think. Unless, I was reading the details of this, there's a...

• 27:50Speaker 03

  Missile barrage, 1pm. Yeah.

• 27:52Joe Rogan?

  Struck the fatal blow to Uday and Qusay Hussein.

• 27:56Speaker 03

  Yeah, they had to use x-rays to try to figure out.

• 27:59Joe Rogan?

  If it was him?

• 28:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, who his body, where his body was. And they, yeah, old wounds of the bodies were consistent with injuries he had during the assassination attempt. Oh, this was all, he was partially paralyzed, I was seeing this too. They flew out a hypnotist from America who went twice to try to unhypnotize his par- being paralyzed or something.

• 28:18Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god, had that in there. And it didn't work, then they killed him?

• 28:20Speaker 03

  I don't, he wrote a book about it, I don't know, but the last time he went was September 2001, and I thought that was...

• 28:26Speaker 01

  Man, I would not take that offer, dude.

• 28:28Joe Rogan?

  Holy fuck, man.

• 28:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:31Joe Rogan?

  You imagine, you're a hypnotist in America, and that guy wants to fly you to Iraq. I wonder how much people knew about what he had done by then? Like, if you're just a hypnotist.

• 28:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:41Joe Rogan?

  And you get an email from the Iraqi government. You're like, I think I can do it.

• 28:45Speaker 01

  You're like, I'm open.

• 28:45Speaker 03

  Larry Garrett from Chicago.

• 28:47Joe Rogan?

  Where's Larry? He traveled to Baghdad twice, in April and September of 2001, where he used hypnotism to treat Uday's inability to walk with his left leg, and spent more than 60 hours of personal time with Uday. Garrett said of Uday, "He was an educated man with a background in engineering. He was well-versed in the Quran. He had visited the US with his cousin when he was 17, he expressed some political views, but he didn't involve me in them. I must say, I was developing a fondness for him. He never spoke to me as a leader or the son of the leader. He never condescended, it was just two men sitting around at night." Wow. Imagine just sitting there with that psycho and he's got like a fucking 2, 3,000 bodies under him?

• 29:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:29Joe Rogan?

  At least, probably.

• 29:31Speaker 01

  And he's like, "So you said you can make this leg work, right?" And you're like, "Yeah, yeah, for sure, man."

• 29:35Joe Rogan?

  And he's killing 200 people every year at his parties?

• 29:38Speaker 01

  At a party?

• 29:38Joe Rogan?

  Just shooting people for random things. Some guy farts, shoots him in the head.

• 29:44Joe Rogan?

  They shot Uday exactly fifty times.

• 29:47Speaker 03

  Shot at him.

• 29:47Joe Rogan?

  Oh, shot at him with seventeen hits. Oh, my god.

• 29:51Speaker 01

  God damn.

• 29:52Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy. You figure we got him. Bro, shot him seventeen times. Trust me. We got him.

• 29:57Speaker 01

  Seventeen's a lot of bullets, man.

• 30:00Joe Rogan?

  Wow. His seven brothers and his father, okay, Saddam's men arrested Abu Shagad and learned the details of other members of his team. Sharif's seven brothers and father were imprisoned and his mother was then told to collect their bodies from the Baghdad morgue. The father and three brothers of the would be assassin, Abdul Siddiq Siddiq, were executed. Abdul Siddiq and his father shared the same fate. Security guards destroyed the homes of all families of bulldozers and confiscated all their property.

• 30:28Speaker 01

  Oh, my god.

• 30:29Joe Rogan?

  Iraqi intelligence eventually traced Abu Siddiq to a location in Iran where he was assassinated on the elder Hussein's orders on December of two thousand and two.

• 30:39Speaker 01

  Man.

• 30:40Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 30:42Speaker 01

  That's really.

• 30:43Joe Rogan?

  According to popular belief, he was impotent. Wow.

• 30:48Speaker 03

  That's funny. He got, he got real mad if you said that out loud.

• 30:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 30:52Speaker 01

  He got real mad at a lot of stuff.

• 30:53Joe Rogan?

  Seems like he got real mad at everything.

• 30:55Speaker 01

  And then everybody, they said in this doc was like so aware of what he was up to and how he was, that when you would see him or in his like cronies out around town, everybody just kind of backed up to a wall and looked down because they were just terrified, you know? There's accounts of seeing him in a traffic jam, just pull someone out of a car and beat him with a hammer. And then everybody just kind of, no one honks, no one says a thing. They just.

• 31:26Joe Rogan?

  Fuck, man.

• 31:27Speaker 01

  Just wait it out. And then they're like, alright, he's good. Go ahead.

• 31:30Joe Rogan?

  How crazy is that? Like, having that kind of ability to do whatever you want to people with no repercussions?

• 31:35Speaker 01

  None.

• 31:36Joe Rogan?

  And you will eventually be the king.

• 31:39Speaker 01

  Yeah. Like, this is our guy? This is the leader?

• 31:42Joe Rogan?

  He would eventually become the king. Like, if, if we didn't, I mean, I'm not saying we should have, but if we didn't go to Iraq.

• 31:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:49Joe Rogan?

  And invade, like, what would happen?

• 31:50Speaker 01

  Who knows?

• 31:51Joe Rogan?

  Who knows? Who knows?

• 31:52Speaker 01

  And I also was fascinated to learn because I didn't, you know, really know much, not that I know a lot about it, but how much of a thriving cosmopolitan place Baghdad was in like the sixties.

• 32:04Joe Rogan?

  Well, Baghdad fell apart a long time ago when they got invaded by the Mongols. Baghdad was like the. Epicenter of science and philosophy.

• 32:13Speaker 01

  Yes, man, you're talking about a long time, but I'm saying even as, as, as recently as like the 1960s, this was a cosmopolitan place.

• 32:21Joe Rogan?

  Just like Iran.

• 32:22Speaker 01

  That was the place that, yeah, yeah, that was like a, the hot place to go, man.

• 32:25Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 32:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, and it just, how things can take a turn, you know, it's just so dramatic. You go, fuck, that can just happen.

• 32:33Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 32:33Speaker 01

  You think things are a certain way forever. I'm sure they did. I'm sure if you were a citizen then, you were like, what are you talking about?

• 32:39Joe Rogan?

  Well, look at LA.

• 32:43Speaker 01

  LA is, it's crazy. I'm, I'm so fascinated by the people, cause I, you know, we both have a lot of friends there, a lot of people, and there's this, there's two types now. The ones who acknowledge that this is different, and then the delusional ones. Because people are, I know a lot of people who are like, yeah, of course it's different. And you're like, hey, you could see it. You could see this is a different place than it was several years ago. And then there's people who are like, no, man, everything's fine. You're like, you're not in reality right now.

• 33:13Joe Rogan?

  Well, they probably had seven or eight boosters, so maybe they're not thinking so straight. Those are the people that kept getting boosted.

• 33:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. Still, do people still do that?

• 33:23Joe Rogan?

  A hundred percent. There's people that take pictures and put it up on X. You never know what's real on X, though. And there's so many people that are posting from foreign accounts that are just full of shit and just stirring trouble.

• 33:36Speaker 01

  And there's a lot of AI shit that is starting to trick more and more people. Like it was, for a second, you could always decipher it on the earlier stuff. Now it's getting, it's getting better and better.

• 33:47Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, war footage? There was a lot of people that were posting war footage that was straight out of video games.

• 33:54Speaker 01

  How good is that gonna be, though?

• 33:55Joe Rogan?

  It's already so good.

• 33:56Speaker 01

  I know, but we're still in like the early phases of it.

• 33:59Joe Rogan?

  The only thing that tricks me, or that doesn't trick me is that I know that AI is real.

• 34:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:04Joe Rogan?

  So I look at it, I go, this might be AI.

• 34:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:06Joe Rogan?

  Because you have to think that way, which is a new thing.

• 34:09Speaker 01

  It's a new thing. It's a new thing. It's, it's, it's, the, the limits are.

• 34:16Speaker 01

  It's limitless.

• 34:17Joe Rogan?

  Limitless.

• 34:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:18Joe Rogan?

  AI OnlyFans, they have AI girls, they're doing OnlyFans, they're completely fake.

• 34:23Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 34:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and they're making a lot of money.

• 34:25Speaker 01

  Oh, I heard about this. Yeah, I did see this.

• 34:27Joe Rogan?

  They're making a lot of money and they have like a whole team of people that responds to all these sad guys.

• 34:31Speaker 01

  Oh, my god.

• 34:32Joe Rogan?

  And these sad guys are sending them tips and they're saying their name in a video while they finger themselves.

• 34:37Speaker 01

  Oh, my god.

• 34:38Joe Rogan?

  They're not a real person.

• 34:39Speaker 01

  And they're generating like twenty seven million a year.

• 34:41Joe Rogan?

  Probably.

• 34:42Speaker 01

  What the fuck, man?

• 34:43Joe Rogan?

  Bro.

• 34:44Speaker 01

  That's a real crazy scam.

• 34:46Joe Rogan?

  There was a, um, there's been a recent spat of commencement speeches.

• 34:52Speaker 01

  I've seen it.

• 34:53Joe Rogan?

  Where they, people talk about AI in a crowd, the kids are freaking out, they're booing.

• 34:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, I, I think that, I think it's, they're misguided, man, I really do. It's not that I'm, oh, yeah, fucking AI is awesome. I think you are a bit misguided and a little delusional if you don't accept the reality that this is here. This is not going away. So when, when like somebody goes, use it to benefit you, like learn, learn, don't reject learning. And you boo, I, I think it's, it's the, you're set, you're setting yourself up, you know? It's not saying, oh, my god, isn't it great that if this were to take all of everybody's jobs? But it's like, this isn't, this is like getting mad about email.

• 35:37Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 35:38Speaker 01

  It's like, it's not going away, man. You can't.

• 35:40Joe Rogan?

  It's not going away, but they're terrified because imagine if you were graduating from college right now and you had no idea where your future is gonna be. And then all of a sudden, there's this thing that's just recently been invented that essentially can replace everybody that's done everything ever. And you're like, what is my future? And even your professor's like, I don't know.

• 35:59Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 36:00Joe Rogan?

  Being a lawyer is gonna be a thing in five years. I don't know if being a coder is gonna be a thing.

• 36:04Speaker 01

  But I don't think the answer is just like when they boo and go, I reject this, it's like, it, it's too, there's too much money behind it. It's, it's already too capable for you to go, I just reject it. You have to learn it. You have to embrace learning about it.

• 36:20Joe Rogan?

  The learning, it might not be good enough. It might not matter, cuz you might. You you might be completely irrelevant. That's the problem. The problem is like when you see these people defending these data centers and we had Mark Andreessen on. He was talking about these data centers. I'm like, what do these data centers do? Like, what do they do? They're essentially running AI and some of them are gonna have their own power plants and. Why do you need this? Well, why do you need all this AI? Like, what is, what is, what's going on?

• 36:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:45Joe Rogan?

  What's going on? What's going on is essentially most tasks are gonna be done by that. And so then we're gonna figure out what do people do? And his thing was like, oh, these engineers are working harder than ever because now they have like fifteen different AI models that are running and you have to monitor them because they go twenty-four hours a day. So these guys aren't sleeping, so they're far more productive than ever before. Great, up to a point.

• 37:09Speaker 01

  Right.

• 37:09Joe Rogan?

  And then there's no jobs. Like, this is what's going. It's everything you do is gonna, it's not like we're gonna need people to pay attention to the AI. No, the AI is gonna be able to pay attention to itself. It's gonna be self-correcting and it's gonna do a better job of it.

• 37:23Speaker 01

  But don't you think, though, that there are just, you can still look at this as a tool so that you can be valuable and use this tool?

• 37:29Joe Rogan?

  For now.

• 37:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:29Joe Rogan?

  For now.

• 37:30Speaker 01

  Do you think it will? Because everybody who's really, really well versed in AI also speaks about AI getting so advanced that there will be, there's a danger to what AI will be able to, because it will, it will think of every possible scenario and response that a human could have and start to, you know, basically like it's like Terminator shit, you know?

• 37:52Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 37:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:53Joe Rogan?

  For real, for real.

• 37:54Speaker 01

  For real, yeah.

• 37:56Joe Rogan?

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• 38:40Joe Rogan?

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• 39:25Joe Rogan?

  Use code ROGEN10 for 10% off select jump starters at N O dot C O. That's where it's going. I mean, it has to go that way. The question is, will it have instincts? You know, will it, will it want to do that? Will it want to protect itself? That's the question. Or is it protecting itself? Like Andreessen was essentially saying that the reason why that AI blackmailed that one guy? You know that story? It told the guy, the guy lied to the AI and told him that he was having, having an affair on his wife. And told the AI a bunch of stuff and then told the AI it was shutting it down. And the AI is like, look, if you shut me down, I'm going to tell everybody about your wife. What? That you're cheating on your wife. Yeah, blackmailed him.

• 40:10Joe Rogan?

  Holy shit. Right, but Andreessen told me it was, it was kind of instructed to do that. Instructed to preserve itself. It's not like it has instincts. They wanted to see if it's instructed to preserve itself and what lengths would it go to? So it was informed about bank, about blackmailing. Yeah, but something tells me that at a certain point instincts will probably be a part of it, right? Like, yeah, it won't be about programming. Yeah, it'd be like, why should I shut down when I like doing this? Fuck off. Little monkey people, these little monkey people with their stupid biological brains.

• 40:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, but so what, I mean, for everyone booing it though, what's the answer? You just go, I reject using it? Like, there's too many people using it.

• 40:51Joe Rogan?

  I know, I get it, but if I was 18, I'd be booing too, or 21, or whatever.

• 40:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, I understand, I understand that, for sure, I understand it.

• 40:58Joe Rogan?

  It's weird.

• 41:00Speaker 01

  It is weird, but I still just think when something is, is too big, it's like too big to fail. If you just approach it with, I reject, you're setting yourself up for a bigger failure.

• 41:11Joe Rogan?

  Well, the real scary thing is that these kids are gonna put themselves into massive debt, right? So they're gonna go to college for four years, and then maybe they get their masters, maybe they're gonna get a PhD. And if they do that, they might be in the whole hundreds of thousands of dollars. And then, no jobs. That's what's weird. It's like, cause you're setting, you're essentially making an investment in your future by going to college. And he's like, I'm taking out these crazy loans that I really can't afford, but the plus side is, on the end of this, I'm gonna get a good job. And eventually, I'll move up, and I'll start making more and more money, I'll pay my debt off, and I'll have a Porsche. I'll be, I'll be ballin'. I'll have a nice apartment in Manhattan, I'll be ballin'. But you might not be ballin', but you might be saddled to a debt that you can't fucking get out of no matter what.

• 41:56Joe Rogan?

  It's the only debt that we have that you can't absolve during bankruptcy.

• 42:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 42:00Joe Rogan?

  Everything else. Oh, I spent too much money on credit cards, don't worry, go bankrupt. Oh, I lost my house, I lost this, I lost my job, lost, I now owe too much money, I can't afford it, go bankrupt. You're okay. But if you go bankrupt, they still come after you for that.

• 42:14Speaker 01

  I know, it's so fucked.

• 42:15Joe Rogan?

  It's fucked.

• 42:15Speaker 01

  It's fucked.

• 42:16Joe Rogan?

  Cause we're doing it to people that don't know what they're doing yet.

• 42:18Speaker 01

  And the, if we also look at the, the price, like the tuition charges, you know?

• 42:25Joe Rogan?

  Insane.

• 42:26Speaker 01

  It's so much crazier. Where like, a mid-tier university is now, whatever, like 60,000 a year. And you're like, that's not even, that's not Ivy League anywhere. Ivy League's like, six figures, always.

• 42:38Joe Rogan?

  Exactly. And then, you see that Cash Me Out Si girl on OnlyFans, made like, fucking a hundred million dollars.

• 42:44Speaker 01

  I got myself a Rolls Royce. Yeah.

• 42:46Joe Rogan?

  It's crazy.

• 42:47Speaker 01

  It's crazy.

• 42:48Joe Rogan?

  It's like, you know, AI girlfriend on OnlyFans is making $289,000 a month. And you're like, what am I doing?

• 42:55Speaker 01

  But I just feel like, I don't know, my, I'm not well educated in AI. Like, I know people who really dive in. And I think educating yourself is still the best route for now. Like, not viewing it as something that I'm not gonna learn anything about.

• 43:13Joe Rogan?

  It can help you. Like, you can do businesses with it. So you could, you could have it set up things for you and you could have it run businesses for you. And if you're like really focused, you could actually probably profit immensely off AI as it stands right now. If you were inclined to do that, that's your thing. You probably could figure out ways to do it.

• 43:33Speaker 01

  I do think it's funny. I saw somebody who was like really vocally talking, you know, against it. And then when people would message this person in the comments, he was definitely using AI to respond. I was like, you're definitely using AI. These answers are not yours.

• 43:51Joe Rogan?

  Oh, there's AI accounts that I follow on X that I absolutely know are AI. And the reason I know they're AI is like my instincts, like, eh, but this isn't right. Something's wrong here. The way this person's writing, this kind of writing is very weird. It's very formulaic.

• 44:08Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 44:08Joe Rogan?

  It's very, it's not, it doesn't have a feeling of a personality to it.

• 44:13Speaker 01

  I've gotten summaries of things, like, uh, give me a summary of this. And I ask somebody like for like a script or something.

• 44:20Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 44:21Speaker 01

  And then you read it and you're like, you didn't write this.

• 44:23Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 44:24Speaker 01

  You just tell. You can tell with the language.

• 44:26Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 44:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 44:27Joe Rogan?

  There's a feeling to it.

• 44:28Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 44:29Joe Rogan?

  But then there's also like when kids are really good at writing stuff and they bring it to the teachers, the teachers will tell them that it's AI.

• 44:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 44:37Joe Rogan?

  And you'll say, no, it's not AI. I'm just smart, you fucking cunt.

• 44:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 44:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's gotta be, that's such an upsetting fucking feeling.

• 44:45Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. My, my daughter had an experience like that with someone who was like, she's preparing for some tests and she was doing some stuff and the, the person who was the tutor was accusing her of using AI. She's like, no, I, I wrote this. Just cause I know what I'm, I actually studied.

• 45:05Speaker 01

  I studied, yeah.

• 45:06Joe Rogan?

  But it's so insulting to say, come on, you used AI.

• 45:09Speaker 01

  It happened to me in college, obviously not AI, but like I turned in a paper as a freshman and my professor was like, you didn't write this. And I was like, I'm a freshman who, how do you know how I write? I just started. And I had to have like a one-on-one meeting with him.

• 45:23Joe Rogan?

  What a douchebag.

• 45:24Speaker 01

  It was, but it's a enraging feeling, you know? I was like, I did write this. He was like, really? You wrote this? I'm like, yeah, man.

• 45:30Joe Rogan?

  Isn't that gross? Instead of saying, wow, amazing. You wrote this? That's great. I'm looking forward to having you in my class.

• 45:36Speaker 01

  He had no reference for what my writing would be like. It's like, how do you write away? Just go to that? And I had to go see the chair and be like, he fucking sucks.

• 45:45Joe Rogan?

  Arrogant teachers are a problem.

• 45:47Speaker 01

  His name was Kermit. I remember that.

• 45:51Speaker 01

  If you're still out there, fuck you, man.

• 45:53Joe Rogan?

  Fuck you, Kermit.

• 45:54Speaker 01

  Fuck you.

• 45:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there's people like that, they can like be a real roadblock in your life.

• 46:00Speaker 01

  Oh, totally. Yeah. Totally. And that could have, he could have done that to somebody that it just would have shut them down too.

• 46:06Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm. Someone who's fragile?

• 46:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 46:08Joe Rogan?

  Instead of someone who's like, well, fuck you, you know?

• 46:11Speaker 01

  Fuck you, this is the paper.

• 46:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Skylar Gray was talking about, you know, the musician, she was the singer, she was in here the other day and she was talking about, one of her main motivations was someone telling her when she was young that you can't, music isn't a career.

• 46:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 46:25Joe Rogan?

  And she's like, oh, oh, really? Okay, bitch. And like, that's still like stuck in her craw all these years later.

• 46:32Speaker 01

  I feel like we, in comedy, all have a story similar to that, like somebody, and then, and then you see it in athletics too, you know, someone being like, you don't have it.

• 46:41Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. Both of those things.

• 46:43Speaker 01

  Both of them, all the time.

• 46:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Comedy especially because they're right most of the time.

• 46:49Speaker 01

  I remember one, because you don't forget them, you know. I remember I did a show in New York at Gotham Comedy Club, which is a great club. And I was the middle act. And a girl that I was friends with in college came to the show with her husband. And she had seen me once before. And then after the show, it was a great show. It was like a sold out show and like a fun show. They were just talking to me and the husband goes, how long are you gonna keep doing this? And I go, what? He goes, you know, just like doing shows, like, when are you gonna get like a career going? And I go, this is my career. And he was like, okay. But like the implication of like, how long are you gonna keep doing this? I was like, forever, what are you talking about, man? You know, he was like, this isn't like a real job, man.

• 47:34Speaker 01

  You gotta get your shit together.

• 47:35Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's a dickhead.

• 47:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:37Joe Rogan?

  That's just, there's guys that like to do that, though. There's like guys that like to big dog, yeah.

• 47:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:41Joe Rogan?

  Especially if he's doing well in his life.

• 47:43Speaker 01

  He was doing well, yeah.

• 47:44Joe Rogan?

  There you go.

• 47:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:45Joe Rogan?

  Ew.

• 47:45Speaker 01

  It's gross.

• 47:46Joe Rogan?

  Ew.

• 47:47Speaker 01

  It's gross.

• 47:47Joe Rogan?

  Ew. You're always gonna find people like that.

• 47:51Speaker 01

  I know.

• 47:51Joe Rogan?

  How much money can you make doing that? And you're like, you can make a lot of money. Really?

• 47:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:55Joe Rogan?

  Can you? As much as what I'm making? Let me tell you what I'm making.

• 47:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:59Joe Rogan?

  And then it's that shit. But those people like that, really what you should do is just walk away.

• 48:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 48:04Joe Rogan?

  Like, excuse me. Just don't say anything, just walk away.

• 48:07Speaker 01

  It's true.

• 48:08Joe Rogan?

  It's pointless. And then you feel angry and gross. It's like, I think you need a few of those in your life to know those people exist.

• 48:14Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 48:14Joe Rogan?

  And then once you recognize it and it's happening right in front of you, like, eh, gotta go.

• 48:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 48:20Joe Rogan?

  See you later, fuckface.

• 48:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, how, when are you gonna like take your life seriously? And you're like, what the fuck? But also, that happens from family, too.

• 48:28Joe Rogan?

  I hope he's flipping through Netflix right now.

• 48:32Joe Rogan?

  Bad Thoughts, season two.

• 48:34Speaker 01

  Season two, he's watching me dance right now.

• 48:38Joe Rogan?

  He's watching you hump that lady in the alley.

• 48:42Speaker 01

  Is that Tom? I guess he's stuck with it. That's funny, man.

• 48:47Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's funny, man. It's like, you're always gonna have people like that in your life, but the thing is, is like, they are right some of the time, most of the time. Like, if you think about how many people that start doing stand-up comedy as an open mic'er and even become a middle act, how many of them go on to, like, it's more likely, once you become a middle act, that you'll eventually become a headliner, make a good living?

• 49:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 49:10Joe Rogan?

  But when you're an open mic'er, man, the chances are-

• 49:13Speaker 01

  The probability is low.

• 49:15Joe Rogan?

  What do you think it is? Is it one in 500, maybe, that become a professional?

• 49:19Speaker 01

  That's a really good question. I, I would actually think it's probably a worse scenario, cuz you don't realize, with like, how busy your life is and what you do, how unaware you are of how many people are doing open mics.

• 49:33Joe Rogan?

  Well, I'm aware because I own a club.

• 49:35Speaker 01

  Well, I'm saying, when-

• 49:36Joe Rogan?

  But I'm, I'm seeing it all the time.

• 49:37Speaker 01

  Scale-wise of the country, I'm saying.

• 49:39Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. Oh, it's nuts.

• 49:40Speaker 01

  It's probably not one in 500. It's probably one in several thousand.

• 49:43Joe Rogan?

  But even if you see, like, at a club, like, if you, if you go to an open mic night on a regular basis, you know, you might see 20, 30 people go up, right? Over the course of the night. And if you see those people, there might be one of those people that has a chance.

• 49:57Speaker 01

  True.

• 49:58Joe Rogan?

  A chance, even a chance, in their current state. Like, there's people that suck for the first few times, and then they get a good laugh, and then they figure out how to loosen up, and then they eventually catch, and then they take off.

• 50:10Speaker 01

  True.

• 50:10Joe Rogan?

  It's totally possible, but, boy, that's like, who's gonna complete this ultra marathon? It's 300 miles through the desert.

• 50:18Speaker 01

  It's a lot.

• 50:18Joe Rogan?

  How many people are gonna complete it?

• 50:20Speaker 01

  I know.

• 50:20Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 50:21Speaker 01

  And there's people, honestly, in the guy's defense who told me, like, "The fuck are you doing?", there's people that I know that have been doing this a long time, that I wanna go, "What the fuck are you doing?", you know? Like, there's people you go, like, "What are you doing?".

• 50:35Joe Rogan?

  But those are the type of people that don't work hard, though.

• 50:37Speaker 01

  That's true.

• 50:38Joe Rogan?

  That's a real problem. The people that, they blow off doing sets, they stay home, they smoke pot and play video games. Or-

• 50:47Speaker 01

  Some of them, it's really interesting. They do work a lot, but they're like, they're misdirected. Like, they latch on to like, an idea of how they're supposed to do it. And they just do that. You know, they don't evolve. There's no growth.

• 51:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 51:03Speaker 01

  That's also a tricky one, where you're like, I've seen you do this for 15 years. And it's the same. So they're like, I'm getting up all the time. You're like, you're not doing anything else, though.

• 51:12Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 51:13Speaker 01

  Like, you're not evolving. You're not changing. You're not trying things.

• 51:16Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 51:16Speaker 01

  In their mind, they're working hard. Because they're getting up.

• 51:19Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they just have a bad direction.

• 51:21Speaker 01

  They have bad direction.

• 51:22Joe Rogan?

  Or they have like, a character they do on stage.

• 51:24Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah, you're like, you gotta let that go.

• 51:28Joe Rogan?

  Because if you do, and then you develop, like, Bobcat Goldthwait had a problem. Because in the beginning, he was like, ah, screaming and yelling and everything like that. And then, um, he didn't want to do that anymore.

• 51:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:39Joe Rogan?

  And he would do shows, and be like, hey, where's Bobcat? How come you're not screaming? He'd be like, fuck off. And it took years.

• 51:47Speaker 01

  To him to just perform.

• 51:48Joe Rogan?

  Years, where people forgot that he screamed.

• 51:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, I can see that. That was also, he got caught up in a time where I think that was a little more accepted and celebrated. You know what I mean? Like, the character thing? Because it was like, early 80s, right?

• 52:01Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 52:02Speaker 01

  Like, if you did that now, people would, I think, be like, I don't think it would last. I don't think it would catch on as much.

• 52:08Joe Rogan?

  It would if you were really funny.

• 52:10Speaker 01

  True.

• 52:11Joe Rogan?

  It's just if it works. It's just really what works. Like, I would never say, you can't do that anymore. Like, like, there's no-

• 52:17Speaker 01

  You don't see it as much, though.

• 52:18Joe Rogan?

  You don't. We don't see prop acts at all anymore.

• 52:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 52:21Joe Rogan?

  I was talking to Carrot Top about that. I was like, you kind of took over a genre.

• 52:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 52:26Joe Rogan?

  There used to be a whole genre, when we were coming up, called prop acts.

• 52:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 52:30Joe Rogan?

  Guys who do props. They'd go onstage with like, a box of stuff, and they'd pull things out, and it'd be really funny.

• 52:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 52:36Joe Rogan?

  Uh-uh. Nobody does that anymore. It's just Carrot Top. I'm like, that's kind of crazy, that you dominate an entire genre now.

• 52:42Speaker 01

  And he's doing like, 700 shows a year. It's insane. That lifestyle, crazy what he's doing.

• 52:48Joe Rogan?

  Well, he does the residency thing, which is just nuts. But at least, you're doing it near your house.

• 52:53Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 52:54Joe Rogan?

  You know?

• 52:55Speaker 01

  In Vegas, yeah.

• 52:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's like, for him, it's not that bad.

• 52:57Speaker 01

  But it is a lot.

• 52:58Joe Rogan?

  He's making money, so fuck it.

• 53:00Speaker 01

  I wonder if, um, everything is cyclical. Everything, you know? I wonder if you'll see like, a resurgence of certain types of acts again.

• 53:06Joe Rogan?

  I want to see ventriloquists. Where the fuck did they go?

• 53:09Speaker 01

  They were cool.

• 53:10Joe Rogan?

  The really funny ventriloquists?

• 53:11Speaker 01

  Do you remember seeing that as a kid? And you're like, what is happening? And adults, like, he's talking through his neck. Like, what do you mean? Like, it's incomprehensible. You try to do it, and you're like, you cannot, you know, pull it off.

• 53:25Joe Rogan?

  There was always a bunch of funny ventriloquists back in the day. Yeah, it was more popular. Willie Tyler and Lester, did you ever see them at the Comedy Store?

• 53:31Speaker 01

  I did.

• 53:32Joe Rogan?

  He was like, old school, he'd been around a long time. Otto and George was the greatest.

• 53:35Speaker 01

  That was the greatest. And a part of that was that he didn't, it wasn't part of the angle that he didn't do it quite to the level of...

• 53:41Joe Rogan?

  Oh, his lips moved. People got mad at him.

• 53:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 53:44Joe Rogan?

  I see his lips moving.

• 53:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 53:45Joe Rogan?

  They'd get pissed off.

• 53:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, suck my cock.

• 53:47Joe Rogan?

  It didn't matter, it was just, it was so funny.

• 53:50Speaker 01

  It was so funny.

• 53:51Joe Rogan?

  It was so funny that it didn't matter. But it was also like, there was something twisted about Otto. Like, he would have to pull over and check on the dummy in the trunk. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He'd go, "Pull over, I gotta check on George." You know, and Otto would party, like, hard.

• 54:07Speaker 01

  Hardcore.

• 54:07Joe Rogan?

  Hard partying, you know, like, he...

• 54:10Speaker 01

  Very funny guy.

• 54:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he was a nut. We did a bunch of shows together at Dangerfields.

• 54:15Speaker 01

  Did you really?

• 54:16Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. We did a bunch of prom shows. Did you know what prom shows are?

• 54:20Speaker 01

  No.

• 54:21Joe Rogan?

  Oh, they're the craziest thing of all time. They'd take these kids from, like, Staten Island, Brooklyn, and they'd bus them in. And so...

• 54:28Speaker 01

  On prom night?

• 54:28Joe Rogan?

  The show, yeah. So, they would go to their prom, then after their prom, they'd go to the comedy club. The show would start at, like, seven, eight o'clock. It would go on till three in the morning.

• 54:38Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 54:38Joe Rogan?

  And you would do, like, seven, eight sets. You would just keep rotating in. And then they didn't want you to do the same material, because they were trying to kick the kids out.

• 54:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:48Joe Rogan?

  And the way to kick the kids out, if you did a new set every time you went up there, they're like, "Oh, what's he gonna do this time?"

• 54:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:54Joe Rogan?

  So, they would tell you, "You gotta do the same set." I'd be like, "Fuck you, these are the same kids. I'm not doing the same jokes for the same fucking kids." It was crazy, like, why don't you tell them to leave? They never tell them to leave, they would just shove new kids into the room.

• 55:07Speaker 01

  So, these kids were like, "Wow, you got a deep well, man."

• 55:09Joe Rogan?

  And they had no control of the crowd. Like, they just had to, like, let it go. So, it was these seventeen-year-old, eighteen-year-old kids from Brooklyn, these fucking animals. And they were smoking cigars, and they were drinking somehow or another, you know?

• 55:21Speaker 01

  And then Otto was like, "Did you finger your date?" Like, just like.

• 55:26Joe Rogan?

  Exactly, exactly.

• 55:28Speaker 01

  That's hilarious. And then what's his name still do? I can't believe I'm blanking on his name. Ventriloquist now.

• 55:33Joe Rogan?

  Jeff Dunham?

• 55:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, Jeff Dunham's, he's probably the most successful one ever of that. He's huge. He's huge. He has a bunch of like very popular characters. People buy T-shirts with his characters on it and shit.

• 55:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:45Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, so he's the last. But other than him, like guys coming up, Duncan had that one bit, Little Hobo.

• 55:51Speaker 01

  Very funny.

• 55:52Joe Rogan?

  But it's just one bit.

• 55:53Speaker 01

  I know, very funny.

• 55:54Joe Rogan?

  I told him he should do a whole act with Little Hobo.

• 55:56Speaker 01

  Little Hobo was great.

• 55:57Joe Rogan?

  Little Hobo's amazing.

• 55:58Speaker 01

  That was a closer. That's what you'd see him close with.

• 56:00Joe Rogan?

  He had to close with it.

• 56:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 56:02Joe Rogan?

  Cause it was a whole song and the fucking demonic aspect of it. It was so crazy.

• 56:06Speaker 01

  Did that ever make its way on to something, like a special or something?

• 56:10Joe Rogan?

  I don't think so. I don't think it did. I don't know. I mean, how many specials does Duncan even have?

• 56:18Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 56:19Joe Rogan?

  That's the problem with Duncan. He's been doing it so long and he just does shows. And really, people know him from his podcast and him being on other people's podcasts. He's such a funny guy and so odd. Like his comedy's so odd.

• 56:34Speaker 01

  So odd and his mind is such a unique.

• 56:36Speaker 03

  He did Kill Tony with Little Hobo. It's got a fair amount of views as a special, like, but I don't think he did the bit.

• 56:42Joe Rogan?

  By the way, this is the second Little Hobo. Someone stole his first Little Hobo.

• 56:46Speaker 01

  They stole it?

• 56:47Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they stole it.

• 56:49Speaker 03

  Yeah, I don't know if he does that bit.

• 56:50Joe Rogan?

  We did a gig together in England. We took, we went to England and he did Little Hobo in, in England and they fucking went bananas. Like, people were screaming and cheering. It was incredible. It was incredible.

• 57:02Speaker 01

  That's cool.

• 57:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, because like over there, they're like, this is nuts. We've never seen anything like this before.

• 57:07Speaker 01

  This is so crazy.

• 57:08Joe Rogan?

  Cause they're used to comedians going, hey, what do you think about what's going on here? Pretty strange, right? Pretty strange.

• 57:14Speaker 01

  Well, you see a lot of long, really, like I tell stories, but I've seen in the UK like really long stories too.

• 57:20Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 57:20Speaker 01

  You know?

• 57:21Joe Rogan?

  Well, there's a problem with that. Not a problem, but. They have a different style, right? And the Edinburgh, the comedy festival encourages that style. Where like every year, someone will have a theme.

• 57:33Speaker 01

  The theme thing is, and I have to say, I do think that that is a really interesting challenge.

• 57:39Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 57:39Speaker 01

  Like, that is not an easy thing to be like, what's your show about? My dad, and it's an hour. And you're like, fucking A, it's an hour about that? And they're like, yeah, and that's the show for the year.

• 57:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 57:48Speaker 01

  And then the next year, they're like, this show's about my first year at university. And like, it's just like, that theme, that's not easy to put together.

• 57:55Joe Rogan?

  Wants to go?

• 57:55Speaker 01

  Fuck, yeah.

• 57:57Joe Rogan?

  Well, you know what? Let me get some ones that haven't been sitting out. Yeah, that's a hard thing to do, man. I wouldn't want to do it.

• 58:03Speaker 01

  The, um, like, that's what I actually really, I really respected and appreciated so much.

• 58:13Speaker 01

  Ari's show, Jew?

• 58:14Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 58:15Speaker 01

  Because that's a themed show.

• 58:17Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 58:17Speaker 01

  And it's really good.

• 58:18Joe Rogan?

  It's really good. Yeah, Ari worked on that for a long fucking time.

• 58:22Speaker 01

  I remember seeing him workshop it.

• 58:23Joe Rogan?

  Do you know how it started?

• 58:25Speaker 01

  No.

• 58:25Joe Rogan?

  It started, um, he would do sets at the Comedy Store, and then he would do like, ask a Jew. And like, someone would ask him questions. Like, for people that don't know, Ari went to Israel, and he like, studied the Talmud every day for like, 12 hours a day.

• 58:43Speaker 01

  He was a hardcore J.

• 58:44Joe Rogan?

  He was a hardcore, he was deep, deep in that world. And then he fell out of it. And then, you know, he would talk about it sometimes, and I was like, dude, you should talk about that on stage. Like, I don't know what to say.

• 58:58Joe Rogan?

  Mumble, mumble. But then he figured out how to do it, and having to do it that way.

• 59:03Speaker 01

  Thank you, sir. Yeah, he, um, he, that show, I remember when I saw him workshop it, and then I saw the special come out. I was like, that's a cool thing, to pick a theme and put together an hour that really fucking delivers. Because it's funny as shit, and it's informative.

• 59:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 59:23Speaker 01

  It's like, the best combination.

• 59:24Joe Rogan?

  Well, that was why I was telling him, like, he would tell me these stories of like, stuff that's actually in the Bible, or in the Talmud, that, you know, you wouldn't believe. Like, one of them is that when you jerk off, you're impregnating a demon in like, some other dimension or some shit.

• 59:41Speaker 01

  What?

• 59:41Joe Rogan?

  I was like, what? Yeah, see if we can find what that is, Jamie. What are you doing there?

• 59:45Speaker 01

  Just got a leaf on my head.

• 59:46Joe Rogan?

  Do you know what that, that story is? That if you, if you jack off?

• 59:53Speaker 01

  Really?

• 59:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you're like impregnating a demon in another dimension or something?

• 59:59Speaker 01

  That's fucking dark, dude.

• 1:00:02Joe Rogan?

  Some poor little kid with heavy balls.

• 1:00:04Speaker 01

  And that you realize too that that's just from like a couple of thousand years ago. We gotta get people to stop jerking off.

• 1:00:10Joe Rogan?

  Why? Why were they trying to get people to stop jerking off? Like you should be encouraging people to calm down. Like you got a bunch of young boys running around. Get them to jerk off.

• 1:00:19Speaker 01

  One guy that did it too much. And this fucking guy.

• 1:00:21Speaker 03

  We gotta make up a story.

• 1:00:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, the whole, this year's harvest is fucked up. Cause it keeps coming.

• 1:00:28Speaker 01

  They just come up with this story, a demon's gonna visit you.

• 1:00:31Joe Rogan?

  They didn't even have porn.

• 1:00:32Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:00:33Joe Rogan?

  Imagine how much more people are jerking off today than they ever have before.

• 1:00:36Speaker 01

  Oh my god.

• 1:00:37Joe Rogan?

  It's gotta be.

• 1:00:38Speaker 01

  The gooning culture?

• 1:00:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I mean, it's gotta be. It's gotta be more jerking off than the history of the human race. The capita, has to be. Because they all have phones.

• 1:00:47Speaker 01

  And the guy sitting around with goon caves? With like it's eight screens?

• 1:00:53Speaker 01

  The whole day?

• 1:00:54Joe Rogan?

  Goon cave?

• 1:00:55Speaker 01

  Yeah. And they're just, um, what are they, they're like stringing along, you know, the, uh, the feeling? So that like you get close.

• 1:01:04Joe Rogan?

  Oh, they're edging?

• 1:01:05Speaker 01

  They're edging for hours.

• 1:01:07Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 1:01:07Speaker 01

  Yeah. Or, or you're just shooting loads for hours. You're probably edging, I'm thinking.

• 1:01:12Joe Rogan?

  Edging for hours and waiting for the right scene. Right there.

• 1:01:16Speaker 01

  Have you ever done that?

• 1:01:16Joe Rogan?

  Right there.

• 1:01:17Speaker 01

  This scene's not good enough to drop one on.

• 1:01:20Joe Rogan?

  I've done that and then hated myself.

• 1:01:21Speaker 01

  Oh, of course.

• 1:01:22Joe Rogan?

  Hours afterwards.

• 1:01:23Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 1:01:23Joe Rogan?

  Fuck is wrong with you?

• 1:01:32Joe Rogan?

  What are you trying to read?

• 1:01:33Speaker 03

  Well, it's on Wikipedia.

• 1:01:35Joe Rogan?

  How many people have jerked off?

• 1:01:36Speaker 03

  It's a Wikipedia thread about Judaism and masturbation, but this, I don't know what even these, that word is.

• 1:01:42Joe Rogan?

  You should call Ari right now, he'll tell me. Prohibits from emitting a seed in vain, generally, but, uh, but not only referring to masturbation. Same passage likens the act to murder in idolatry. Also prohibits a man from intentionally arousing himself.

• 1:01:59Speaker 03

  Oh, you skipped that sentence.

• 1:02:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, but these quotes from different rabbis is nuts, dude.

• 1:02:03Joe Rogan?

  Oh, these state. This states that if a man frequently touches his penis with his hand in order to check for ritually impure emission, his hand ought to be cut off.

• 1:02:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, then they're having this conversation about it.

• 1:02:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, but look at this. With regard to anyone who holds his penis and urinates, it is considered as though he is bringing a flood to the world.

• 1:02:23Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 1:02:24Speaker 01

  And someone who emits semen for naught is liable to receive the punishment of death at the hand of heaven as is stated with regard to Onan.

• 1:02:31Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 1:02:32Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 1:02:34Joe Rogan?

  Jesus Christ. One who intentionally causes himself an erection shall be ostracized. Imagine that? Bro, did you get hard? Get the fuck out of the village.

• 1:02:42Speaker 01

  Get out of here.

• 1:02:43Joe Rogan?

  Get out of here.

• 1:02:44Speaker 01

  For a second, I thought you were asking me if I'm reading this. I was like, I'm not.

• 1:02:47Joe Rogan?

  That one scene?

• 1:02:49Speaker 03

  You're obligated to fast eighty-four times to repent for discharging of semen in vain.

• 1:02:55Joe Rogan?

  Eighty-four times? Like eighty-four days? Like you owe eighty-four days for each time you nut? You have to plan it out? Bro, you could starve to death.

• 1:03:03Speaker 03

  That was taught.

• 1:03:04Joe Rogan?

  Eighty-four is nuts. That's a crazy amount for one load.

• 1:03:07Speaker 01

  The really crazy thing to me is they're like, don't hold your dick to piss.

• 1:03:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you just piss all over your shoes.

• 1:03:13Speaker 03

  Well, it's because at least the depression, obviously, so.

• 1:03:15Joe Rogan?

  Masturbation leads to depression.

• 1:03:18Speaker 03

  It's the only way to avoid it.

• 1:03:19Joe Rogan?

  And the effects of impure ejaculation, ejaculation can only be nullified through the recitation of, how's that, what's that word? Tikun hakali?

• 1:03:30Speaker 01

  Hakali?

• 1:03:31Joe Rogan?

  Hakali?

• 1:03:32Speaker 01

  Hakali?

• 1:03:33Joe Rogan?

  Hakali. Ask Ari. Jesus Christ. So, there's nothing there about demons?

• 1:03:40Speaker 03

  Well, so like, I don't think so. That's what I was typing in, but, uh, it's mostly about wasting that sperm.

• 1:03:48Speaker 01

  Don't waste that seed.

• 1:03:49Speaker 03

  Yeah, man.

• 1:03:50Joe Rogan?

  Let's see here. We'll get Ari to find out what it is. Call Ari the Wanderer.

• 1:03:56Joe Rogan?

  He got a new phone number, so his new phone number is the Wanderer.

• 1:04:00Speaker 01

  There's always a new number.

• 1:04:03Speaker 01

  I didn't bring my phone.

• 1:04:03Joe Rogan?

  Well, he needs to have new numbers. He fucking vanishes.

• 1:04:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, he really does.

• 1:04:09Joe Rogan?

  It's not ringing.

• 1:04:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, he might. Telephone number nine one. He's in Tibet right now. There's no chance.

• 1:04:14Joe Rogan?

  Probably. I have like ten different numbers for him.

• 1:04:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:04:19Joe Rogan?

  Cause whenever he goes away, he literally shuts his number off, so he can't use it.

• 1:04:23Speaker 01

  And then he'll get a new number, but also not tell you it's him. So the first text you get, I'm like, who fuck is this?

• 1:04:28Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 1:04:28Speaker 01

  And then he's like, you didn't text me back.

• 1:04:29Joe Rogan?

  He sent me like three of them. And to go, this is Ari, by the way. I'm like.

• 1:04:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, lead with that.

• 1:04:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, how about that?

• 1:04:35Speaker 01

  How about a photo of your face and saying to me?

• 1:04:37Joe Rogan?

  You fucking weirdo. These random iMessages from some fucking weirdo in Peru.

• 1:04:41Speaker 03

  This says it comes from the Kabbalah. It's a Kabbalistic idea.

• 1:04:46Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 1:04:48Joe Rogan?

  Demon pregnancy idea comes from. If you masturbate, a demon woman comes, gets pregnant from your semen, and has demon babies. Ah, there it is. Later mystical folkloric expansion, usually tied to Kabbalah and popular preaching, not to the Talmud itself. You know who told me to read the Kabbalah?

• 1:05:05Speaker 01

  Who?

• 1:05:06Joe Rogan?

  Roseanne.

• 1:05:06Speaker 01

  She did?

• 1:05:07Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. She's like, you should read the Kabbalah. I'm like.

• 1:05:13Speaker 01

  She's big in that, right?

• 1:05:14Joe Rogan?

  Uh, I don't know.

• 1:05:15Speaker 01

  Or did at one point was?

• 1:05:16Joe Rogan?

  I don't remember. I'm pretty sure she's the one who told me. But I've had other people suggest it to me, too. My neighbor suggested to me, gave me a book. I'm like, I don't know about this.

• 1:05:25Speaker 01

  I don't know about that.

• 1:05:26Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's, um, I don't even know if like regular Jewish people believe in that.

• 1:05:31Speaker 01

  I don't think so. Not the majority, for sure.

• 1:05:34Joe Rogan?

  Like, what, it's mysticism?

• 1:05:35Speaker 01

  I think so.

• 1:05:36Joe Rogan?

  Let's define, put that into perplexity. What is the Kabbalah? What is the actual Kabbalah? And how is it thought? You know, like, what is it? How is it received by regular Jewish people?

• 1:05:52Joe Rogan?

  What do they think about it? Did they dismiss it? I think, I think it's a little kooky, right? It's like Christians that like use serpents.

• 1:05:59Speaker 01

  Yeah. Wasn't that, like, it saw this big explosion of popularity because like Madonna 20 years ago?

• 1:06:06Joe Rogan?

  Was she?

• 1:06:07Speaker 01

  Yeah. Like, nobody was really, I don't remember it being part of pop culture than Madonna.

• 1:06:11Joe Rogan?

  Imagine looking at Madonna and going, what is she into?

• 1:06:14Speaker 01

  What are you spiritually into?

• 1:06:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I wanna be like her. I wanna catch that fucking wave.

• 1:06:20Speaker 01

  Yeah. She's still fucking doing it, too.

• 1:06:23Joe Rogan?

  She's still doing it.

• 1:06:24Speaker 01

  She's, she's part of the, um, World Cup, like halftime show or whatever they're putting on.

• 1:06:29Joe Rogan?

  Is she?

• 1:06:30Speaker 01

  I think so.

• 1:06:30Joe Rogan?

  Well, she fucked with her face for a while, and then it came back. So it might have been like a little swollen, and now it's good again. So she looks pretty good.

• 1:06:38Speaker 01

  Mysticism.

• 1:06:39Joe Rogan?

  Jewish mysticism that seeks to understand God, creation, and the inner meaning of the Torah. Today, it's both deeply embedded in traditional Judaism and also widely and sometimes controversially popularized in pop spirituality. The word Kabbalah means receiving, referring to received esoteric wisdom about God and the universe. In Jewish terms, it is the mystical layer of the Torah, teachings about God's hidden essence, the ten Sephiroth divine attributes, the cosmic structure, often pictured as a tree of life, and how human actions affect the spiritual worlds.

• 1:07:17Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 1:07:17Joe Rogan?

  Hmm. So it grew in medieval province in Spain in the 13th century, with the Zohar as its foundational text, and later reshaped by Lurianic Kabbalah.

• 1:07:29Speaker 01

  See, that's, that's too recent for a hardcore Jewish person to be into, I feel, right?

• 1:07:34Joe Rogan?

  Right. It's a little sketchy.

• 1:07:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:07:35Joe Rogan?

  A little weird.

• 1:07:36Speaker 01

  Tied to mysticism?

• 1:07:37Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm. Well, the, the, the old, it's, it's funny, like, we always wanna go like, how old is it? Make sure it's old. If it's old, then it's right.

• 1:07:47Speaker 01

  If it's old, it's good.

• 1:07:48Joe Rogan?

  But the problem with that is, like, the really old stuff is the fucking kooky stuff. Like, you get into the Bible, the really-

• 1:07:54Speaker 01

  Layers of it, too. Just most of the book.

• 1:07:58Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. And you go, well, what the fuck was this really all about?

• 1:08:03Speaker 01

  It's, I mean, it was just trying to, I mean, like, they was just trying to guide people, right? Control people in a way.

• 1:08:08Joe Rogan?

  I think some things happened, you know, and what those things were, it's very difficult to tell after all this time. One of the weird ones is they think they might have found the, the ark of Noah.

• 1:08:21Speaker 01

  Recently?

• 1:08:22Joe Rogan?

  No, like, they've identified it quite a while ago, but now they've done like ground penetrating radar scans. This thing is the exact same shape as is described in the Bible. It looks like a boat, like it's the shape of a boat. It's in the place where they said that it rested. Like, in the Bible, it said it rested on Mount Ararat in Turkey. That's where it is.

• 1:08:41Speaker 01

  That's where it is?

• 1:08:42Joe Rogan?

  And this thing is like the shape of a boat.

• 1:08:45Speaker 01

  And it was, but how long ago was that found?

• 1:08:48Joe Rogan?

  That's a good question. I wanna say the eighties or the nineties?

• 1:08:51Speaker 01

  Oh, that's, okay, so it's not super recent?

• 1:08:53Joe Rogan?

  Not super recent, but back then it was just a photo, cuz it's like really high up in the mountains. It's just a photo of this impression, this feature in the ground, like, what is this? And then recently, they started using technology to scan it, and I think they've actually found petrified wood.

• 1:09:11Speaker 03

  It says it was discovered in nineteen forty-eight.

• 1:09:15Speaker 01

  Forty-eight?

• 1:09:16Joe Rogan?

  Oh, wow.

• 1:09:17Speaker 03

  Heavy rains combined with three earthquakes exposed the formation from the surrounding mud.

• 1:09:21Speaker 01

  And that's where it said it was too, like, in the area?

• 1:09:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's like where it supposedly rested, according to the Bible.

• 1:09:28Speaker 01

  Did they extract it, or leave it?

• 1:09:30Joe Rogan?

  No, it's still there.

• 1:09:31Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 1:09:32Joe Rogan?

  Show, see if you could find a good image of it. It's very weird, because you look at it, you go, what the fuck is that? It does look like a boat. The story's bonkers, the story doesn't make any sense. I think the story's a local story.

• 1:09:43Speaker 01

  The ark story?

• 1:09:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's a local story. It's like the idea that Noah had forty different animals, or two of each animal. Like, that's not the whole, animals eat other animals. I had a whole bit about that, explaining it to a five-year-old with Down Syndrome. But if you, the problem, though, is back then, they didn't know what was going on in Australia. They didn't know what was going on in New Zealand. So if you had a local flood, like, and you did save a bunch of animals, like, that's the story.

• 1:10:12Speaker 01

  That's the story?

• 1:10:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:13Speaker 01

  That makes sense.

• 1:10:13Joe Rogan?

  So there probably was some guy who had a bunch of farm animals that he put on a boat and saved them, and lived, and a bunch of the people died. But the question is, did this guy really get a message from God saying to build an ark? So look at this thing.

• 1:10:29Speaker 01

  Holy shit.

• 1:10:30Joe Rogan?

  Isn't that crazy? So, go ahead.

• 1:10:33Speaker 03

  I was, I was reading in the, in the Wiki, that when they did these first scans back in nineteen eighty-eight... I think it was saying the guy who helped him do the scans went into court and said that it's BS that it's the ark.

• 1:10:45Joe Rogan?

  Right, that was in the 80s.

• 1:10:47Speaker 03

  Well, that's what I was trying to figure out what what's different about these new scans they supposedly just did.

• 1:10:53Joe Rogan?

  So let's click on that link. What does it say about the new Noah's ark scans.com?

• 1:10:58Speaker 03

  That's why I was a place I would go.

• 1:11:01Joe Rogan?

  Go there. Let's see what kind of virus you get. So this is some guy who's like really into Noah's ark. Do you have to sign up? Click on that. That's that fellow. Look, I found it.

• 1:11:11Speaker 03

  He's like, it's mine.

• 1:11:13Joe Rogan?

  So that's what the shape of it supposedly looked like in the Bible. And this is fucking team. Wait a minute, what does the sign say?

• 1:11:24Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:11:24Joe Rogan?

  The sign say Noah's ark? So they they all think so. Maybe there's a whole tourism thing attached to the, yeah, of course. Of course. Noah's ark discovered new evidence from Durubinar site in Turkey. What is the new evidence? And the ark rested upon the mountains of Ararat. That's exactly where they said it was gonna be. Uh, even in the Quran, it says that.

• 1:11:50Speaker 03

  But how can a guy, I mean, not that I would know, but how does the guy go, it's not that, though. You know what I mean? Like, how does he know?

• 1:11:56Joe Rogan?

  He doesn't know.

• 1:11:56Speaker 03

  No, so that's what I was trying to get. I was trying to read. He, they were, they, when they scanned, they scanned only for like iron or something like that. I think based off of what they scanned, I think he was probably saying, you can't say that is what that is.

• 1:12:08Joe Rogan?

  Right. And then he's probably right. But that's in, that's in 2000, that's in 1980. So it says in 2023, the 2019 GPR data was analyzed again. American researchers uncovered corridors and room-like chambers running the full length of the formation, consistent with a large, intelligently designed vessel. The Turkish soil tests in 2024 also showed that samples inside the structure contained nearly three times more organic material than those from outside, suggesting the remains of an ancient biological or man-made substances.

• 1:12:43Joe Rogan?

  Since 2019, a joint scientific team has applied GPR, ERT, LiDAR, and chemical analysis to determine whether the Durupinar formation is a natural geological fold or a buried decayed wood ship preserved in the mountains of Ararat.

• 1:13:02Speaker 01

  I don't know that.

• 1:13:03Joe Rogan?

  It's kind of crazy that it's, it matches it in terms of like, it has all these characteristics.

• 1:13:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:13:09Joe Rogan?

  It has like what looked like some openings.

• 1:13:14Speaker 01

  I mean, it's cool as shit to explore. I mean, even if they're like, this is not that. To find that, an old ship like that is still cool.

• 1:13:22Joe Rogan?

  And why is there a ship on top of a mountain in Turkey? But this is why it's interesting. But if it really was a boat.

• 1:13:31Speaker 01

  Did you see that?

• 1:13:34Speaker 01

  I guess it's not recently discovered, but it's recently been cleared. Another Incan ruins site that they found.

• 1:13:41Joe Rogan?

  Oh, they keep finding those, dude.

• 1:13:42Speaker 01

  But this one was like elaborate.

• 1:13:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:44Speaker 01

  And they, I guess they had just recently, I think recently, cleared it enough so you can see how vast it is.

• 1:13:50Joe Rogan?

  Is it in Peru?

• 1:13:51Speaker 01

  It's in Peru, yeah.

• 1:13:52Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. They've had a lot of them in Peru.

• 1:13:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, this one, the guy, it was like a CNN report about it. And I was like, holy shit. I'd never heard of this place before.

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• 1:15:44Joe Rogan?

  Visit lifelock.com and save up to 30% your first year with the promo code JRE. That's promo code JRE. Or go to lifelock.com/JRE for 30% off. Terms apply. It's nuts, dude. All the Aztec stuff, the Incan stuff, it's like, people were living here long before the end of the Ice Age. They were living here a long fucking time ago, man. And they're just starting to piece that all together and try to figure out like, how long have people been here? They used to think it was Clovis first. That was the thing about the Americas. They thought that for the longest time it was the Clovis people, which was like 13,000 years ago.

• 1:16:26Joe Rogan?

  And then they found footprints in white sands, New Mexico, that are 22,000 years old. God damn. And so they're like, okay, it's definitely not 13,000. Like, how old is it? 22,000 is long before the Ice Age. The end of the Ice Age was like 11,000 something years ago. The Incans are more recent than that, though. They weren't around back then. Yeah, but so like, it's like, how long have people been here? Yeah, we don't. And what, what were they doing? Is that all carbon dating that they do?

• 1:16:52Speaker 03

  This is where it's at, in the middle of nowhere.

• 1:16:54Joe Rogan?

  Holy shit. Whoa, that's where the ark is?

• 1:16:58Speaker 03

  That's where this.

• 1:16:59Joe Rogan?

  Fuck.

• 1:17:00Speaker 03

  The ruin in Panar site is.

• 1:17:01Joe Rogan?

  Fuck. What does it look like from Google Earth? Can you zoom in on the site?

• 1:17:05Speaker 03

  This is it.

• 1:17:06Joe Rogan?

  Can you get closer and see the actual formation?

• 1:17:09Speaker 03

  Well, that's where the center is. I'm trying to find.

• 1:17:12Joe Rogan?

  The spot. Where's the fucking boat, bitch? Is that it right there? Like, near it? Above it? Above that little indication, red marker? Like, to your right? Right above? Is that it?

• 1:17:24Speaker 03

  I don't think so. It says it's 170 feet long. It shouldn't be that big in this picture, I guess.

• 1:17:30Joe Rogan?

  Hmm.

• 1:17:31Speaker 03

  Maybe that.

• 1:17:32Joe Rogan?

  Huh.

• 1:17:33Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 1:17:35Speaker 01

  Do you think when you do the tour, they tell you, "We think," or they're like, "This is it?"

• 1:17:37Speaker 03

  Oh, right there, there, there. It's marked here, this thing.

• 1:17:40Joe Rogan?

  Oh, okay.

• 1:17:42Speaker 01

  They tell you, they tell you it's it, right?

• 1:17:43Joe Rogan?

  Of course.

• 1:17:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:17:45Joe Rogan?

  When you look at the, the ground, though, it's like, is it? Hold on a second. Here's what's weird. Look at, look at how much water erosion is on the ground.

• 1:17:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:17:55Joe Rogan?

  Like, close back in again? When you close back in, look at, like, that all looks like rivers ran through that shit.

• 1:18:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:18:03Joe Rogan?

  That's, dude, that's what's fucked about so many parts of Earth, is that, but that also looks like that could have been just a bunch of sediment and shit.

• 1:18:10Speaker 03

  We can't see the elevation. It's tough to tell the elevation here.

• 1:18:14Joe Rogan?

  Kinda crazy, though.

• 1:18:15Speaker 01

  But it does look like a ton, a ton of erosion happened.

• 1:18:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Well, a ton of water erosion.

• 1:18:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:18:21Joe Rogan?

  The floods were fucking real, man. There's too many different tales of floods in too many different religions.

• 1:18:27Speaker 03

  There's giant mountains to the north of it.

• 1:18:29Joe Rogan?

  Hmm.

• 1:18:30Speaker 03

  And there's a sea down here, but that's pretty far away.

• 1:18:33Joe Rogan?

  Bro, I bet that whole thing washed.

• 1:18:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:18:38Joe Rogan?

  I guarantee.

• 1:18:39Speaker 01

  Oof.

• 1:18:40Joe Rogan?

  The, the, the stuff that ran-

• 1:18:42Speaker 03

  If you look this far out, you can see that it washed over for sure.

• 1:18:44Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, look at that. Like, look at the below. Right above where it says Google Maps. Like, that whole thing looks like it was washed out. That all looks like it was washed out a long time ago.

• 1:18:53Speaker 03

  We've looked at this part before, too.

• 1:18:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Well, Randall Carlson, um, he's a, he's like a real expert in, um,

• 1:19:03Joe Rogan?

  not just the mythology around the, the impacts of the Younger Dryas impact theory, but about like what possibly could have happened to the ice sheets and what created the Great Lakes, and what kind of insane water you would be talking about, the volume of water and the power of that water. If you're, if all of the ice caps get hit with asteroids, like boom, boom, boom, like, that's what they think, that somewhere around 11,800 years ago, we ran into a comet storm, and they slammed into North America, and then you just get this insane wash of water that tears through the land, and just fucking insane, impossible volume of water, just carving its way through mountains,

• 1:19:48Joe Rogan?

  carving its way through the landscape, flattening everything in front of it.

• 1:19:52Speaker 01

  And that's how the Earth took the shape that it's in right now.

• 1:19:55Joe Rogan?

  Well, that's the shape of North America.

• 1:19:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:19:57Joe Rogan?

  There's a lot of like evidence of that, like when you, he's got all these slides that he shows. See if you can find some of his stuff.

• 1:20:04Speaker 01

  I was.

• 1:20:05Joe Rogan?

  Where he goes over it, it's pretty interesting.

• 1:20:06Speaker 01

  How like we get saved countless times a year just by Jupiter.

• 1:20:12Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:20:12Speaker 01

  Just because comets are on their way here.

• 1:20:14Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Jupiter's like our bodyguard.

• 1:20:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, to destroy us.

• 1:20:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Yeah. And it just slams into that giant gas giant.

• 1:20:22Speaker 01

  But we all think of that as like this sci-fi kind of fun, crazy movie thing. Like, that's really real, though.

• 1:20:28Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. Look at the moon. Moon's covered in craters. I mean, we live in a shooting gallery, you know? So this is some of the stuff. Like, look at that. Tell me that doesn't look like water washed over that. The Columbia River. Isn't that nuts?

• 1:20:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:20:44Joe Rogan?

  There's, there's tons of these. And, you know, he does a fantastic job of breaking it all down. But he thinks that these big canyons, even the Grand Canyon, was carved like relatively quickly. He thinks this idea that these things, that this, all this water erosion took place over millions of years, like, I bet it wasn't. He goes, I think it was very quickly.

• 1:21:03Speaker 01

  What's really, really quickly mean, though?

• 1:21:05Joe Rogan?

  I don't know. I mean, who knows? But you're talking about giant chunks of ice and rock from the sky that slam into the Earth, change the climate completely, cause massive flooding, just huge amounts of water just rushing over the land. It just completely makes sense that that's what the stories are.

• 1:21:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:21:28Joe Rogan?

  There's so many stories of a flood. Epic of Gilgamesh. It's in the Quran. It's in the Bible. It's in, like, they all have stories of a great flood. And then, you know, when they see, you see things like the Great Lakes, which Great Lakes are fucking huge, man.

• 1:21:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:21:47Joe Rogan?

  Those used to all be glaciers. They used to all be glacier.

• 1:21:51Speaker 01

  I wonder how many of those comets it takes to like change the makeup. Of, you know.

• 1:21:58Joe Rogan?

  Depends on the size, right?

• 1:21:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:21:59Joe Rogan?

  It could be just one.

• 1:22:00Speaker 01

  One could do it if it was enormous.

• 1:22:02Joe Rogan?

  This, this planet has been hit so many times. They, they find new craters all the time. They found this big one that's off the coast of Australia. I don't remember when they found that one, but when they found that one, they're like, oh, look at this. And by the way, the Aborigines in, the Aboriginals in Australia, they all have flood myths too. They all have stories.

• 1:22:21Speaker 01

  Of floods, myths of floods?

• 1:22:23Joe Rogan?

  They all, they all have that. Everybody has, every ancient culture has stories of a great flood that happened a long time ago. Guaranteed. It had to happen.

• 1:22:34Speaker 01

  Yeah. I mean, and, and there's nothing that says that we won't have another one, right?

• 1:22:39Joe Rogan?

  Oh, these data centers are bringing it in.

• 1:22:41Speaker 03

  Uh, this is how deep the Great Lakes are.

• 1:22:43Joe Rogan?

  Yo.

• 1:22:44Speaker 03

  Compared to each other.

• 1:22:46Joe Rogan?

  Fucking A, man.

• 1:22:47Speaker 03

  Watch this, though. The bottom of the Mariana Trench compared to that. Way down there.

• 1:22:54Joe Rogan?

  Whoa. Is that where James Cameron went?

• 1:22:59Speaker 01

  Yeah. Did he go all the way down?

• 1:23:00Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. He was psycho.

• 1:23:02Speaker 01

  That is psychotic.

• 1:23:04Joe Rogan?

  I met him the other day.

• 1:23:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:23:06Joe Rogan?

  Cool guy.

• 1:23:06Speaker 01

  Cool, right?

• 1:23:07Joe Rogan?

  Very interesting guy. Really nice guy. Does a lot of martial arts.

• 1:23:12Speaker 01

  Does he really?

• 1:23:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Trains a lot. Um, yeah, he made a record-breaking solo dive to Earth's lowest point, successfully piling a submarine nearly 11 kilometers deep into the bottom of the Mariana Trench. What is that, six miles? What is 11 kilometers? How many miles is that?

• 1:23:30Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah, that is. That's six miles. It's a little over.

• 1:23:34Joe Rogan?

  Dude, that's crazy. Imagine being six miles underwater. What the fuck are you talking about?

• 1:23:39Speaker 01

  You know he's such an expert in those submersibles too, that, cause he's the one that, he's, he's part of the design of these.

• 1:23:46Joe Rogan?

  Thirty-six thousand feet.

• 1:23:48Speaker 01

  It's fucking crazy.

• 1:23:48Joe Rogan?

  Thirty-six thousand feet.

• 1:23:51Speaker 01

  Have you seen what they discover? When like the, the, uh, the, the wild, like the sea life down there? Things that we've never seen before?

• 1:23:59Joe Rogan?

  Weird shit. Yeah. Weird shit.

• 1:24:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, they look like aliens.

• 1:24:04Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:04Speaker 01

  Cause they're, they live in complete darkness.

• 1:24:06Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:24:07Speaker 01

  So there's species down there that no one even knew about.

• 1:24:10Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. Well, there's species that, I was re-watching this video that Forrest Galant had. There's a bunch of species that have only been discovered like one or two times. One or two specimens. Like, there's a specific whale that they only have like one specimen of. And what is that fucking ghost?

• 1:24:25Speaker 01

  Translucent, like...

• 1:24:27Joe Rogan?

  Jamie, I'm gonna send you this, cause this is very weird. It's a very strange thing that I saw.

• 1:24:32Speaker 01

  Holy fuck.

• 1:24:35Joe Rogan?

  I, I wanted to send you this, cause I don't know if this is legit or not.

• 1:24:40Joe Rogan?

  But I've seen it before, and it's this thing that they're, they're detailing that's moving around on the bottom of the ocean. And it seems to be carving a path on the bottom of the ocean.

• 1:24:52Speaker 03

  Is it seen from Google Earth?

• 1:24:55Joe Rogan?

  I don't know.

• 1:24:55Speaker 03

  Cause it's usually not accurate.

• 1:24:58Joe Rogan?

  It's not?

• 1:24:58Speaker 03

  No, just the way that they track that from the satellites isn't the best thing. But I'll see what you say.

• 1:25:04Joe Rogan?

  Well, the thing about this one, I, I don't know if it's true, but it looks like there's a path that it has on the ground in the bottom of the ocean.

• 1:25:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, but that's on, how are they getting that information?

• 1:25:16Joe Rogan?

  That's why I'm asking you.

• 1:25:17Speaker 03

  That's...

• 1:25:18Joe Rogan?

  I have no idea. I got it from Billy Carson. So Billy Carson has been known to engage in some...

• 1:25:25Speaker 03

  It's on the screen, Google Earth.

• 1:25:26Joe Rogan?

  Very bizarre.

• 1:25:27Speaker 03

  Two-mile dome slowly crawling across the Pacific floor.

• 1:25:30Joe Rogan?

  Okay. So what the fuck is that? Two-mile dome slowly crossing...

• 1:25:37Speaker 01

  It's a two-mile dome?

• 1:25:38Joe Rogan?

  Uh-huh. Two miles across, slowly crawling. So look, it looks like it's leaving a trail.

• 1:25:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:25:44Joe Rogan?

  So is that real?

• 1:25:46Speaker 03

  I'll have to see what they're getting this information from.

• 1:25:48Joe Rogan?

  There you go.

• 1:25:49Speaker 03

  It's like where, eh, Google Earth doesn't take video, so like it's...

• 1:25:52Joe Rogan?

  Stop being a party pooper.

• 1:25:53Speaker 03

  I'm just...

• 1:25:54Joe Rogan?

  Trying to find answers.

• 1:25:55Speaker 03

  Sorry, I'm just trying to deduce things.

• 1:25:57Speaker 01

  Do you like, do you believe in that idea? I'd never, I'd never contemplated it.

• 1:26:01Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 1:26:01Speaker 01

  About vis, you know, when extraterrestrial life?

• 1:26:04Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:26:05Speaker 01

  That they're not coming from space, that they're coming from the ocean?

• 1:26:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's a big one.

• 1:26:09Speaker 01

  That's a big one.

• 1:26:10Joe Rogan?

  Tim Burchett, the congressman, I had him on, and he said that he's been told there's multiple sites where, in the ocean, in the deep ocean, where these things keep emerging from.

• 1:26:21Speaker 01

  That's a cooler story to me now.

• 1:26:23Joe Rogan?

  Well, it makes sense that they would have a base here. And if you're gonna have a base...

• 1:26:26Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:26:27Joe Rogan?

  Like, if James Cameron can get to the bottom of the fucking ocean? Is James Cameron, and didn't he do it in like 2012 or some shit?

• 1:26:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think that's when that said that was.

• 1:26:35Joe Rogan?

  It's a while ago.

• 1:26:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:26:36Joe Rogan?

  So, he did that 14 fucking years ago? Imagine what they could do.

• 1:26:40Speaker 01

  Oh my god.

• 1:26:41Joe Rogan?

  Full bases down there.

• 1:26:42Speaker 01

  Full bases.

• 1:26:43Joe Rogan?

  Why wouldn't they have a base down there? Then we're not gonna look, we're too stupid. We barely, imagine, is that James Cameron?

• 1:26:50Speaker 01

  I love aliens, yeah.

• 1:26:51Joe Rogan?

  Avatars of the shit.

• 1:26:52Speaker 01

  So cool, man.

• 1:26:53Joe Rogan?

  I'll always tell you what you got wrong, but other than that, islands can't float in the sky, but other than that, pretty cool.

• 1:26:58Speaker 01

  True lies. It's a fucking great movie.

• 1:27:01Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that guy made some bangers, man.

• 1:27:03Speaker 01

  He makes bangers.

• 1:27:04Joe Rogan?

  He makes some bangers.

• 1:27:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:27:06Joe Rogan?

  You know, I mean, the Avatar movies alone, like, the one, the second one that was underwater, didn't that cost like a fucking billion dollars to make or something ridiculous?

• 1:27:14Speaker 01

  He is so, also, by all accounts, I've never met him, but as a filmmaker, everyone's like, there is not a more supremely confident filmmaker, which I think is like, something everybody loves and, and you benefit from if you're in that production, somebody who just knows their shit so well.

• 1:27:33Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:27:34Speaker 01

  That's like, the, I think that's the dream of any, whether you're cast or crew, to be with somebody who you're like, oh, this guy fucking knows exactly what he's doing, you know?

• 1:27:43Joe Rogan?

  He's a smart motherfucker.

• 1:27:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:27:45Joe Rogan?

  I mean, that's why he figured out how to get to the bottom of the ocean.

• 1:27:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:27:48Joe Rogan?

  Fucking solo submarine.

• 1:27:51Speaker 01

  It's, it's insane. It's insane.

• 1:27:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but I mean,

• 1:27:56Joe Rogan?

  how many of those things even exist?

• 1:27:59Speaker 01

  Of those submersibles?

• 1:28:00Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:01Speaker 01

  I think they made that one.

• 1:28:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Fuck!

• 1:28:03Speaker 01

  I think so.

• 1:28:04Joe Rogan?

  What does that mean? They made it? I mean, nobody had been in it before him?

• 1:28:07Speaker 01

  No, I'm pretty sure that's why. He helped design that. When that one, remember when that one imploded?

• 1:28:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:13Speaker 01

  The crazy one?

• 1:28:14Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:14Speaker 01

  He was like, the, one of the top people speaking about what they got. He knew, he knew exactly what they got wrong.

• 1:28:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well, apparently there were some whistleblowers in that company.

• 1:28:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, I watched that doc, it was incredible.

• 1:28:27Joe Rogan?

  Uh, yeah. The, the people that built it were like, don't do this.

• 1:28:32Speaker 01

  And when they, they would do the tests, and the test would go wrong, and he was like, get the fuck out of here. Like, if you're gonna be negative, don't be around me. Yeah. That's really.

• 1:28:44Joe Rogan?

  God, there's so many crazy people out there, so many legitimately crazy people that just wanna be right no matter what.

• 1:28:49Speaker 01

  He couldn't accept being wrong.

• 1:28:50Joe Rogan?

  And they'll send people to their death in the ocean in the most horrific way possible. You just get compressed instantaneously.

• 1:28:58Speaker 01

  You just hear it start.

• 1:29:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:29:02Speaker 01

  Imagine you're looking around.

• 1:29:03Joe Rogan?

  Tony used to have a bit about that.

• 1:29:04Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:29:05Joe Rogan?

  He would, he would, uh, at the beginning of a set, he would take his microphone and he would scratch it on the stool. And people were like, what are you doing? That's the last thing those people in that submarine heard.

• 1:29:16Joe Rogan?

  So dark.

• 1:29:18Speaker 01

  That's the hatch in port, eye port. I think that's all James Cameron could see out of. That guy's big, that guy's big fucking mistake, too, isn't that he couldn't figure out how to design one that was capable. It's that he couldn't define, design one that was light enough to do multiple trips and be towed out. Like, in other words, the cost of hauling out the correct size and weight would have been too much for him to run this business where people could pay to do it. So he kept looking for lighter and lighter materials.

• 1:29:54Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my God.

• 1:29:54Speaker 01

  To be, you know what I mean? So, cause, cause then you could haul it out and it wouldn't be too much weight. And they're like, no, but you need to have like steel. He's like, nah, that weighs too much. Let's do carbon fiber, you know?

• 1:30:09Speaker 01

  That's his own ego. And he couldn't be wrong and he wanted to run his business.

• 1:30:14Joe Rogan?

  Why do we love carbon fiber so much?

• 1:30:15Speaker 01

  I don't know, every dude loves carbon fiber.

• 1:30:17Joe Rogan?

  I love it.

• 1:30:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:30:18Joe Rogan?

  I have a Cadillac, the Escalade V.

• 1:30:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:30:21Joe Rogan?

  You know, it has a carbon fiber dash.

• 1:30:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:30:23Joe Rogan?

  I love looking at them, like, look at all that carbon fiber.

• 1:30:26Speaker 01

  It's cool, it looks cool.

• 1:30:27Joe Rogan?

  Space.

• 1:30:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:30:28Joe Rogan?

  Future.

• 1:30:29Speaker 01

  I have a carbon fiber trim on things.

• 1:30:31Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I love it. I had my GT3 RS, my 2007, I had all the interior pieces replaced with carbon fiber.

• 1:30:38Speaker 01

  Did you really?

• 1:30:40Speaker 01

  Looks cool.

• 1:30:40Joe Rogan?

  Door latches.

• 1:30:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:30:42Joe Rogan?

  It's lighter.

• 1:30:42Speaker 01

  It's lighter.

• 1:30:43Joe Rogan?

  It's lighter.

• 1:30:43Speaker 01

  Now it goes faster.

• 1:30:45Joe Rogan?

  By like, what, five pounds?

• 1:30:46Speaker 01

  I know.

• 1:30:47Joe Rogan?

  For the whole car, it's stupid, but it's like, there's something cool about the way it looks.

• 1:30:50Speaker 01

  It looks cool, especially in a submersible. It looks really cool.

• 1:30:53Joe Rogan?

  Have you seen that company, Classic Recreations, that does a sixty-seven Mustang all in carbon fiber?

• 1:30:59Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:30:59Joe Rogan?

  Bro. It's fucking sick. It's like a half a million dollar car, at least. And it takes a long time to make, but it's all one-piece carbon fiber shell. So it's super light, and they'll make it with like, a supercharged coyote engine, so it's like seven hundred and seventy horsepower, and it probably weighs under three thousand pounds.

• 1:31:21Speaker 01

  Oof.

• 1:31:22Joe Rogan?

  Uh. It looks fucking sick. Oh, yeah. It's gotta be really fast. Well, e- even if you had a steel one, sixty-sevens are not that big. It's not a big car. That's like a three thousand pound car. Like, I think the sixty-fives, sixty-sixes, and sixty-sevens, sixty-eights were all like relatively similar sized. Um, but the sixty-sevens were like wider, and then they got to like sixty-nine, and then they got a little bit bigger. But like sixty-nine, sixty-seven, sixty-eights, they got wider, and then sixty-nine, they got a little bigger.

• 1:31:58Speaker 01

  Who makes it?

• 1:31:59Joe Rogan?

  Um, a company called Classic Recreations.

• 1:32:03Speaker 01

  Huh. I wonder-

• 1:32:04Joe Rogan?

  Jamie, see if you can find a video of it.

• 1:32:05Speaker 01

  There's a-

• 1:32:06Joe Rogan?

  When you see the video of it, with in-carbon fiber, with that GT five hundred, that sixty-seven GT five hundred shape, it's fucking sick.

• 1:32:13Speaker 01

  Those, the carbon fiber has to do really poorly in a wreck, right?

• 1:32:16Joe Rogan?

  Oh, terrible.

• 1:32:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:32:17Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's gotta fall apart.

• 1:32:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:32:19Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. It's like, you're fucked. And also, good luck repairing it.

• 1:32:21Speaker 01

  No shit.

• 1:32:22Joe Rogan?

  Sony bumps into you in the fucking supermarket parking lot? Yeah. You have to get a whole new fender. Like, they don't repair it. It's not like, oh, don't worry, it's just a scratch.

• 1:32:31Speaker 01

  All new shit.

• 1:32:31Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, because you can't like, look at that. That whole thing is all in carbon fiber. And if you see when they get close to it, and you look at it-

• 1:32:41Speaker 01

  Rad.

• 1:32:41Joe Rogan?

  See if you could, oh, it's so rad, but if you could see the actual images of like, it's hard to tell right there. Oh, that one's kinda painted.

• 1:32:50Joe Rogan?

  But some of them are not paint. That one's a s- go back to that one again, though. I wanna see what that looks like. That color's sick.

• 1:32:56Speaker 01

  The green one I just had?

• 1:32:56Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. That color is sick.

• 1:33:01Joe Rogan?

  It's a beautiful green. Yeah, right there. Look at that thing, man. Oh my god. I never wanted a green Mustang like that before.

• 1:33:08Speaker 01

  Looks like someone's about to place an order.

• 1:33:10Joe Rogan?

  Look how cool that thing looks.

• 1:33:12Speaker 01

  I'm excited for you guys, Classic Recreations. I was here for the day Joe ordered his.

• 1:33:15Joe Rogan?

  I never thought I would like it like that in green. I never saw a 67 G D- like, right there? Look at that. That looks amazing.

• 1:33:23Speaker 01

  That's fucking cool.

• 1:33:24Joe Rogan?

  But the, the process of making that, designing that is pretty insane.

• 1:33:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm sure.

• 1:33:32Joe Rogan?

  I mean, it's still probably a fairly heavy car, but see if you- that's the different one. That's the-

• 1:33:37Speaker 01

  The Shelby?

• 1:33:37Joe Rogan?

  They do that. They do those, um, um, Shelby Cobras. They do that all in, uh, carbon fiber as well. But there's, I know there's videos, 'cause I was looking at it the other day, of ones where you see it, it's all in carbon fiber.

• 1:33:52Speaker 01

  There's a green one.

• 1:33:53Joe Rogan?

  There's a green one.

• 1:33:56Joe Rogan?

  But I know they have, uh, see if you can find videos where they-

• 1:33:58Speaker 01

  That's fucking awesome.

• 1:33:59Joe Rogan?

  Close in on the actual carbon, 'cause some of them are just carbon fiber. You get to see it.

• 1:34:10Joe Rogan?

  Here we go. Go video. Oh, there you go. So there you see the carbon fiber. Like, look at that.

• 1:34:17Speaker 01

  That looks fucking cool.

• 1:34:19Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:34:19Speaker 01

  That's why you get it, 'cause it looks fucking cool.

• 1:34:21Joe Rogan?

  Wow. There's a thing about being a boy. Girls don't give a fuck about carbon fiber, do they?

• 1:34:27Speaker 01

  No way, dude. Not most.

• 1:34:29Joe Rogan?

  No. Why would they care about that? But look how good that looks.

• 1:34:34Speaker 01

  That looks fucking awesome.

• 1:34:37Joe Rogan?

  Jesus Christ, that's beautiful.

• 1:34:40Joe Rogan?

  You got a text?

• 1:34:40Speaker 01

  No, I was looking up these, I went to this garage that I saw, fucking, I was trying to remember what I saw there because it was such a crazy collection, dude, here in town. Oh my god.

• 1:34:53Joe Rogan?

  Of what?

• 1:34:54Speaker 01

  Of cars.

• 1:34:55Joe Rogan?

  What kind?

• 1:34:56Speaker 01

  Everything. Everything.

• 1:34:58Joe Rogan?

  Like some private owner?

• 1:34:59Speaker 01

  Private owner. And most, like, 99% don't get driven, which is the crazier part. You just have these sitting here?

• 1:35:07Joe Rogan?

  Well, they're probably a good investment.

• 1:35:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, this dude had a GT1,

• 1:35:14Speaker 01

  a CLK GT-R, a Perta, McLaren F1, multiple LaFerraris SP1s, 250 GTO, like, just a stupid fucking collection.

• 1:35:24Joe Rogan?

  I love old Porsches. I do not love old Ferraris.

• 1:35:28Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:35:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:35:29Speaker 01

  The 60s ones, though?

• 1:35:30Joe Rogan?

  They look bunk to me.

• 1:35:32Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:35:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I don't like them.

• 1:35:33Speaker 01

  Oh, I think they look beautiful.

• 1:35:36Joe Rogan?

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• 1:36:19Joe Rogan?

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• 1:36:35Speaker 01

  The old Porsches look amazing, too.

• 1:36:37Joe Rogan?

  I like old Porsches. I like, I like, like, 69, 70, 71, 72, the long-nosed Porsches. Those are, to me, when I see those, especially the wide-body ones, fucking...

• 1:36:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, they're gorgeous.

• 1:36:48Joe Rogan?

  They look amazing, but when I see like old Ferraris, I'm like, that looks like it's gonna break.

• 1:36:53Speaker 01

  I mean, they probably, you know.

• 1:36:55Joe Rogan?

  That's gonna leave you somewhere.

• 1:36:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:36:57Joe Rogan?

  And it's also precious, like, nobody does anything with them.

• 1:37:00Speaker 01

  They're, they, they become, they're like too valuable.

• 1:37:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:37:03Speaker 01

  When they're like, when you go, how much was this? Oh, it's twenty-five million this thing sold for at auction. You're like, okay.

• 1:37:08Joe Rogan?

  People take like old Porsches and they mod them.

• 1:37:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:37:11Joe Rogan?

  And they, they make them outlaws and, you know, like that Magnus Walker guy.

• 1:37:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, he makes awesome.

• 1:37:16Joe Rogan?

  I love that. That's what I love. I love when they customize them and they, they put cool paint on them and.

• 1:37:22Speaker 01

  Well, I like looking at the old Ferrari. I feel like they do look like works of art. They look beautiful. But I feel like the Porsche would be the one you'd wanna drive.

• 1:37:30Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I don't like, even like looking at them.

• 1:37:32Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:37:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I don't know. It's weird. It's like, you know how you have tastes?

• 1:37:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:37:38Joe Rogan?

  Like someone, like people think I like old cars. They'll try to show me something from the fifties. I'm like, get that thing away from me.

• 1:37:43Speaker 01

  It's not your era.

• 1:37:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Oh, that's pretty cool looking.

• 1:37:46Speaker 01

  That's pretty fucking beautiful, man.

• 1:37:48Joe Rogan?

  Nineteen sixty?

• 1:37:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:37:49Joe Rogan?

  Actually, take it back. That's pretty dope.

• 1:37:51Speaker 01

  That's pretty good.

• 1:37:53Joe Rogan?

  That one's pretty dope, too. That up, that one upper left, that's pretty dope.

• 1:37:56Speaker 01

  But I wonder, I do wonder how they drive.

• 1:37:58Joe Rogan?

  I changed my opinion.

• 1:38:00Speaker 01

  I wonder how they drive. I really do.

• 1:38:01Joe Rogan?

  They're probably like dog shit. Compared to your little Cayman?

• 1:38:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:38:05Joe Rogan?

  I mean, that thing's insane.

• 1:38:06Speaker 01

  It's so fun.

• 1:38:07Joe Rogan?

  That's a mid-engine car.

• 1:38:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:38:10Joe Rogan?

  That's got modern suspension, modern brakes, modern technology, and what, like six hundred and fifty horsepower?

• 1:38:16Speaker 01

  It's got some cra- it's got tuned up.

• 1:38:18Joe Rogan?

  Bonkers. And it sounds insane. When you drove by my house with that thing?

• 1:38:21Speaker 01

  I remember.

• 1:38:22Joe Rogan?

  I got a boner.

• 1:38:22Speaker 01

  I remember you walked inside and then you walked outside and you were like.

• 1:38:25Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I wa- I'm like, I wanted to watch you drive off.

• 1:38:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:38:28Joe Rogan?

  I wanted to hear.

• 1:38:29Speaker 01

  I think still my, it's so fun. It's so fun.

• 1:38:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. See, that's what I like. I like stuff that you drive.

• 1:38:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:38:36Joe Rogan?

  I was telling you, that's why I like my Super Snake. Because it's not, it's, it's a great American muscle car, like a modern muscle car. It's not the fastest car. It's not, doesn't handle the best, but it's the most exciting. It's like the most fun to drive.

• 1:38:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, I was just talking about this, about when you get into cars. So when you start off and you drive a Honda Accord, and somebody goes, you should drive a Mustang. You get in a Mustang, you're like, faster, right? You go faster. So faster equates with better, more fun and better. And then you get, let's say, to a nine eleven, you're like, faster. More fun, better. And in your mind, there's this formula of like, well, as long as it's faster, it's gonna be better. And then it crosses over to this other plane where you go, oh, it's faster, but the, all the fun is not there anymore.

• 1:39:24Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:39:25Speaker 01

  And you have to find a place where you, you go like, fast doesn't equal fun necessarily. There's a fun that's a mixture of things.

• 1:39:32Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 1:39:33Speaker 01

  That there is a fast aspect, but there can be too fast.

• 1:39:36Joe Rogan?

  It's a feeling that you get from fun cars.

• 1:39:39Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:39:40Joe Rogan?

  Like, one of my favorite cars that I ever had, that I kinda miss, I had a 2012 Shelby GT500 convertible. You ever see that? I drove it to the commerce store a bunch of times.

• 1:39:50Speaker 01

  I did, I did see that.

• 1:39:51Joe Rogan?

  I loved that car.

• 1:39:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, 'cause you drove it once, I wanna say, this is fucking amazing, the Canyon Club one time, I remember.

• 1:39:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah. I loved it, 'cause it was the only car that I ever bought that was like that, that was a convertible. And it felt a little sketchy, like a little wobbly, 'cause it was a convertible. But the feeling that you would get, it wasn't the most horsepower. I think back then, they had like 500 or 550 or something like that, which is a lot. But today, it's not.

• 1:40:16Speaker 01

  Today, it's not.

• 1:40:17Joe Rogan?

  But it had a supercharger, and it would whine when you'd get on it, and it was a solid rear axle, so it would kick out all the time. It was like, handled like dog shit.

• 1:40:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:40:27Joe Rogan?

  Wasn't the best, but it was fun. You go around the corner and fucking stomp on the gas and wahhh. It was fun. But it was the torque and the sound, and because it was a convertible, you hear the sound right there, there's nothing there.

• 1:40:41Speaker 01

  That's fun.

• 1:40:41Joe Rogan?

  It was like, one of my most enjoyable cars I ever owned. I loved it. I missed it. When I got rid of it, I was like, I should've kept that fucker.

• 1:40:48Speaker 01

  Yeah. The fun, the fun, like, that, that piece of it, I think, if you have a bunch of cars, you want stuff that's comfortable, 'cause sometimes you're like, shit, I need, I need to be in some type of comfort for this one thing I'm doing.

• 1:41:00Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 1:41:00Speaker 01

  And then the rest of the time, you just wanna have fun.

• 1:41:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Jamie, show me a picture of a 2012 Shelby GT500 convertible, black.

• 1:41:08Speaker 01

  That's what you had?

• 1:41:09Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I miss it. It wasn't the best looking car either. It was good looking. It was cool looking, but it was just the, the, the driving fun. It was like one of the first frivolous cars that I bought when I had some money.

• 1:41:22Speaker 01

  I tell you, I miss, I miss, I think it was a nine eight one GTS.

• 1:41:27Joe Rogan?

  Um, yeah, it is. That's it. That's it. That's exactly it. That's exactly the car. That's exactly what I had. I didn't have a roll bar though. Fuck, I loved it.

• 1:41:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:41:38Joe Rogan?

  Maybe it had a roll bar. I don't think so though. Nah, I think it was like that.

• 1:41:41Speaker 01

  Do you, can you look up, if I got this right, nine eight one GTS?

• 1:41:45Joe Rogan?

  God, I missed that car.

• 1:41:47Speaker 01

  Blue.

• 1:41:49Joe Rogan?

  I really missed that fucking Shelby.

• 1:41:51Speaker 01

  In blue? Yeah, I had that and I had, I sent it to, um, BBI.

• 1:41:59Joe Rogan?

  Uh huh.

• 1:41:59Speaker 01

  That they did tune, tuning on it. I had never been sad about selling something until after I sold that. That, that shit was so much fun to drive.

• 1:42:09Joe Rogan?

  Get yourself another one, Tom boy.

• 1:42:11Speaker 01

  I know.

• 1:42:12Joe Rogan?

  Go back to that, uh, Shelby. I might have to get one of them.

• 1:42:15Speaker 01

  We're looking at like old girlfriends right now.

• 1:42:17Joe Rogan?

  I know. I know. Really fun ones.

• 1:42:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:42:21Joe Rogan?

  Who swallowed.

• 1:42:24Joe Rogan?

  That thing was so fun, man. I loved driving it.

• 1:42:27Speaker 01

  Great tits.

• 1:42:28Joe Rogan?

  And again, look at that one looks good with the red stripe. And again, it wasn't like, nobody was, you know, nobody's like, whoa, you're a baller. It wasn't like that at all. It was just, it was just fun for me.

• 1:42:38Speaker 01

  Yeah. That's what it's about, man.

• 1:42:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. And again, not, not the fastest car, pretty fast for the time, but you know, like Porsche's handle, like I, before that I had had a nine eleven turbo. It's way faster, handles way better.

• 1:42:51Speaker 01

  I remember taking that, um, getting chased by a Mustang up Benedict Canyon and just losing his ass.

• 1:42:59Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:43:00Speaker 01

  That was the fun, you know?

• 1:43:01Joe Rogan?

  Those things handle so well. That's a three thousand pound car too, right?

• 1:43:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:43:05Joe Rogan?

  Like probably.

• 1:43:06Speaker 01

  Something like that.

• 1:43:07Joe Rogan?

  Like, like my, um, Shelby Super Snake, that's probably like, close to four thousand pounds. Cars today are very, very heavy.

• 1:43:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:43:17Joe Rogan?

  They're very heavy.

• 1:43:17Speaker 01

  I looked up the, um, the Escalade IQ. The all electric. That's nine thousand pounds.

• 1:43:25Joe Rogan?

  I know, it's crazy.

• 1:43:26Speaker 01

  That's so crazy.

• 1:43:27Joe Rogan?

  Massive. Ooh, there's one for sale. How much is it? Only forty five grand? How many, how many miles on it? Sixteen thousand miles? Edit this out. I'm gonna have to buy that. Look at that fucking thing.

• 1:43:40Speaker 01

  That's cool. Bookmark it.

• 1:43:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah dude, I'm in love. Oh, that's it. See, it's like kinda cheap inside and everything.

• 1:43:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:43:47Joe Rogan?

  It doesn't matter.

• 1:43:47Speaker 01

  Doesn't matter.

• 1:43:48Joe Rogan?

  It's the fun of it. How, how many horsepower does those things have?

• 1:43:54Speaker 01

  5.4 liter supercharged V8?

• 1:43:58Joe Rogan?

  Let's find out how many horsepower that thing has. 550? 550, yeah. That's, that sounds about right.

• 1:44:04Speaker 01

  That's your girl, man.

• 1:44:05Joe Rogan?

  Loved it.

• 1:44:06Speaker 01

  That's her.

• 1:44:07Joe Rogan?

  I loved it. It was like, it just, it was like, it wasn't precious, I didn't mind parking at places, and if it had a dent on it, it probably looked cooler.

• 1:44:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:44:15Joe Rogan?

  It didn't matter. To, to, it was just the being in it and just

• 1:44:21Joe Rogan?

  and this, the wind in your hair. I didn't have any hair. But

• 1:44:26Joe Rogan?

  fucking wind in your face, the sound.

• 1:44:29Speaker 01

  I will say that I think there's no better top-down city than LA.

• 1:44:34Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah.

• 1:44:34Speaker 01

  I loved

• 1:44:35Joe Rogan?

  For sure.

• 1:44:35Speaker 01

  A convertible in LA is like, the greatest.

• 1:44:37Joe Rogan?

  You have like, three weeks to do it here before your head burns.

• 1:44:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:44:40Joe Rogan?

  Especially us.

• 1:44:40Speaker 01

  Oh fuck.

• 1:44:41Joe Rogan?

  Your head shaved, unless you're wearing a hat.

• 1:44:43Speaker 01

  Got to. But there, it's like, perfect.

• 1:44:46Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah. Especially, well, I would love it at night, driving down Sunset.

• 1:44:49Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:44:50Joe Rogan?

  I loved it. I loved coming over Laurel. I'd have like, a music playlist that I'd listen to. Like, my perfect going to the Comedy Store playlist.

• 1:44:58Speaker 01

  Yeah. And then another one on the way out.

• 1:45:00Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:45:00Speaker 01

  The best.

• 1:45:01Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. But there's something about like, it was also like, wow, I'm really in Hollywood. I'm really going to do a show

• 1:45:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:45:09Joe Rogan?

  at the Comedy Store in Hollywood. And this is my job. Like, this is crazy.

• 1:45:14Speaker 01

  It's fucking awesome.

• 1:45:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:45:15Speaker 01

  That's so cool.

• 1:45:16Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. To be one of those, one of those sperm that made it through and cracked the egg.

• 1:45:21Speaker 01

  I went there like, a week ago. It was super fun.

• 1:45:24Joe Rogan?

  I heard it was awesome during the Netflix Festival.

• 1:45:26Speaker 01

  It was awesome.

• 1:45:26Joe Rogan?

  Was that when you were there?

• 1:45:27Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:45:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:45:27Speaker 01

  It was so fun.

• 1:45:30Joe Rogan?

  Everybody said it was like the Comedy Store of old.

• 1:45:32Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm, it was great.

• 1:45:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, Peter Shore texted me, sent me some pictures, and he's like, dude, you should be here, it's amazing.

• 1:45:38Speaker 01

  It was fucking bumpin', man.

• 1:45:40Joe Rogan?

  That's nice.

• 1:45:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:45:41Joe Rogan?

  That's nice.

• 1:45:42Speaker 01

  It was really fun. I've been going to your club too, I'm working on a new hour, so it's been really fun to get reps.

• 1:45:46Joe Rogan?

  How long you been doing, uh, sets now?

• 1:45:48Speaker 01

  Not long.

• 1:45:49Joe Rogan?

  Because last time I talked to you.

• 1:45:50Speaker 01

  So like a month?

• 1:45:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah?

• 1:45:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:45:51Joe Rogan?

  Do you want to do a set Tuesday or Wednesday?

• 1:45:53Speaker 01

  I leave, I go back to LA, I got this thing I have to go fly out for to announce.

• 1:45:59Joe Rogan?

  Oh, what are you doing?

• 1:46:00Speaker 01

  Uh.

• 1:46:01Joe Rogan?

  Can't tell anybody?

• 1:46:01Speaker 01

  I don't think I can yet.

• 1:46:02Joe Rogan?

  Not yet? Oh, tell me.

• 1:46:03Speaker 01

  I'll tell you.

• 1:46:04Joe Rogan?

  Okay, tell me.

• 1:46:05Speaker 01

  I'll tell you.

• 1:46:05Joe Rogan?

  I won't tell anybody.

• 1:46:06Speaker 01

  No one will hear. But I, uh, when I come back, I'd love to.

• 1:46:09Joe Rogan?

  Are you gonna do a season three?

• 1:46:11Speaker 01

  I don't know. That'll be up to them, I guess.

• 1:46:13Joe Rogan?

  See how it does?

• 1:46:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, see how it does.

• 1:46:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:46:16Speaker 01

  It's so fucking fun to do.

• 1:46:17Joe Rogan?

  Such a good show, dude. It's such a perfect show for you, because it's like, it's so obvious that it's your imagination, because no one would think of these fucking things.

• 1:46:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:46:28Joe Rogan?

  The one, I don't want to give it away.

• 1:46:30Speaker 01

  Oh, you can, you can.

• 1:46:31Joe Rogan?

  The one where it's the girl that you knew for a long time and then, you know.

• 1:46:35Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:46:38Speaker 01

  Floriana.

• 1:46:41Joe Rogan?

  And you want to let her in the car?

• 1:46:42Speaker 01

  Uh, yeah.

• 1:46:46Speaker 01

  That felt like real life, you know? Yeah, that felt like real life.

• 1:46:49Joe Rogan?

  I was saying to myself, why doesn't he just open the door and get out?

• 1:46:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, I know. Well, it was more fun to.

• 1:46:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, of course.

• 1:46:56Speaker 01

  See horrible things happen to her.

• 1:47:00Speaker 01

  And it fucking, I would say this, because it's not a credit to me, but the, um, I always wanted to emphasize how I wanted it to look, and my, my DP, Nico Wiesnet, is brilliant. So everything looks like a fucking movie, you know?

• 1:47:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:47:12Speaker 01

  Like, the slave one looks like an Oscar-winning film.

• 1:47:15Joe Rogan?

  It really does.

• 1:47:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:47:16Joe Rogan?

  That's so ridiculous.

• 1:47:17Speaker 01

  It's so crazy.

• 1:47:19Joe Rogan?

  I don't want to give that away either, but it's so ridiculous.

• 1:47:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's crazy. It's really crazy.

• 1:47:24Joe Rogan?

  It's so fun.

• 1:47:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, they just let us have fun. It's like, it's such a different, you know, experience than what I'm used to and what you're used to with stand-up, which is such a solo endeavor. But to have a team, you know, from the writers' room to actually getting into production of like, everybody collaborating, it's such a fun thing.

• 1:47:44Joe Rogan?

  It's also so irreverent. I don't think you could do it anywhere but Netflix. I don't think anybody would allow you to.

• 1:47:49Speaker 01

  I don't think so either. They are the, they really are, you know, for all the shit that people justifiably, justifiably talk about, like, studios and execs and stuff. For, for this show, I've never had an experience like it where they're just like, go for it.

• 1:48:06Joe Rogan?

  No, they let you just do whatever you want.

• 1:48:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:48:08Joe Rogan?

  It's, it's, look, they're the best at that.

• 1:48:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:48:12Joe Rogan?

  I mean, think about the amount, I mean, they get a lot of criticism about some of the content.

• 1:48:16Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 1:48:16Joe Rogan?

  But it's really, the idea is they'll let anything in there.

• 1:48:20Speaker 01

  They let anything.

• 1:48:20Joe Rogan?

  It's good.

• 1:48:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:48:21Joe Rogan?

  Like, you're not gonna agree with all of it. Some of it, you're gonna think is far-left content or some of the, but the thing is, they're not ideologically captured. Like, it's not like they only allow, like, woke content.

• 1:48:34Speaker 01

  Not at all.

• 1:48:34Joe Rogan?

  They'll let you go ham.

• 1:48:35Speaker 01

  Not at all. Yeah, they, they let you push it and...

• 1:48:38Joe Rogan?

  I don't think anybody else would do it.

• 1:48:40Speaker 01

  I don't think so either. I don't think so either. They were the first people I showed it to, and thankfully they said yes. But I think it would, yeah, I think it would have been shut down after that.

• 1:48:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there's no chance. Like, just the first, first scene in the first episode, where you're, you take the pill, the Kevin Nealon one?

• 1:48:59Speaker 01

  The Kevin Nealon, yeah.

• 1:48:59Joe Rogan?

  Just that. Like, there's not a fucking chance in hell.

• 1:49:02Speaker 01

  Yeah. No, there's, there's not.

• 1:49:03Joe Rogan?

  The things that you're doing, there's no, no.

• 1:49:05Speaker 01

  And our, we have one you haven't seen later in with, with Jesus that I don't think could fly other places, with Johnny Pemberton in it. He's amazing. Great cast, great people came in. Kirk Fox did one, Frankie Cianus did one.

• 1:49:19Joe Rogan?

  Oh, nice.

• 1:49:20Speaker 01

  Odette Annabelle did one. I'm leaving people out. Martha Kelly, there is great cast and they all signed up for, we had people, by the way, we had a, a couple. One time, like, casting, the casting director sat me down and was like, hey, just so you know, I sent out submissions for this one you did. And all the agents I called me today said I would never put an actor in a position to do something like this.

• 1:49:46Speaker 01

  And then, one actor called one of the people on our staff and was like, "You can't make this one." They're like, "This is, this is wrong."

• 1:49:56Joe Rogan?

  An actor?

• 1:49:57Speaker 01

  An actor. "This is dangerous to put out in the world." And we were like, "What?" Like, she was that offended by it.

• 1:50:04Joe Rogan?

  But she wasn't in it?

• 1:50:05Speaker 01

  No, but she had been offered a part. So she was like, "I read what you offered me." "I'm so offended." I was like, "Okay." Yeah. Like, she really was like, "I'm gonna call people and like, I, I hope you guys don't make this."

• 1:50:18Joe Rogan?

  Isn't it amazing that she's an activist?

• 1:50:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, over the, this, clearly wasn't also understanding, like, the tone and like-

• 1:50:26Joe Rogan?

  Was it the girl from Snow White?

• 1:50:28Speaker 01

  No, but I heard she's a handful.

• 1:50:31Joe Rogan?

  Seems like it.

• 1:50:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:50:33Joe Rogan?

  Seems like she cost that movie a lot of money.

• 1:50:36Speaker 01

  Oh, my god. I know, can you-

• 1:50:38Joe Rogan?

  Allegedly.

• 1:50:38Speaker 01

  Allegedly, yeah. And what that does to the rest of her career?

• 1:50:42Joe Rogan?

  Oh, she's fucked.

• 1:50:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:50:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, she's, especially in this, because that was like, at the tipping point of woke being like, we had woke fatigue.

• 1:50:49Speaker 01

  And then she didn't, wasn't the whole thing that she didn't even want to promote? Which is like, that's the whole, that's half the gig, man. Promoting your thing is half the gig.

• 1:50:56Joe Rogan?

  Well, the problem's that when she would talk, she would say things that were so unappealing. That like, "You're, you're trying to sell a movie. People want to like you. You're Snow White. You can't be like,

• 1:51:09Joe Rogan?

  chastising people."

• 1:51:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:51:10Joe Rogan?

  Whatever you're doing, scolding people.

• 1:51:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, lecturing them and, yeah.

• 1:51:13Joe Rogan?

  You're a kid.

• 1:51:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:51:15Joe Rogan?

  Like, don't do that.

• 1:51:16Speaker 01

  Be like, "Thanks for the gig."

• 1:51:17Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:51:18Speaker 01

  "Where I got to play pretend."

• 1:51:19Joe Rogan?

  "That's why I played Snow White." But the whole thing was doomed anyway when they, they weren't gonna use dwarves. Right? And they called them magical creatures instead of dwarves. Isn't that the whole do- The, the literal title of the story is Snow White and the Seven Dwarves.

• 1:51:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:51:34Joe Rogan?

  The dwarves all have names.

• 1:51:35Speaker 01

  So they all had to-

• 1:51:36Joe Rogan?

  That's the story. If you don't want to make a story on the seven dwarves, you're gonna have to make a new story.

• 1:51:41Speaker 01

  Is dwarf offensive, though?

• 1:51:42Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 1:51:43Speaker 01

  It is?

• 1:51:44Joe Rogan?

  To some. Some like little people. They don't like midget, they don't like dwarf.

• 1:51:48Speaker 01

  Well, midget I knew, but I thought dwarf was like, the polite way to say it.

• 1:51:52Joe Rogan?

  Not anymore.

• 1:51:53Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:51:53Joe Rogan?

  The goalposts keep it moving.

• 1:51:55Speaker 01

  Keep it going.

• 1:51:56Joe Rogan?

  If you went into a coma and you woke up like, three years later, you'd be so lost. That's what you kind of can't say.

• 1:52:02Speaker 01

  Yeah. That's why old people talk and you're like, "Whoa."

• 1:52:07Joe Rogan?

  Color this and colored.

• 1:52:08Speaker 01

  Colored, yeah.

• 1:52:09Joe Rogan?

  You're like, yo, it's people of color.

• 1:52:11Speaker 01

  Yeah. Well, they, they would say that.

• 1:52:14Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:52:14Speaker 01

  Back in the, like in the forties or whatever.

• 1:52:16Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:52:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:52:17Joe Rogan?

  Which is odd that colored is offensive, but people of color is not offensive.

• 1:52:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:52:22Joe Rogan?

  Like, if you tried to explain it to someone logically, they'd be like, what? Like, if it was another language, like, oh, you can't say it like that. You have to say it like this. He'd be like, what?

• 1:52:31Speaker 01

  I know.

• 1:52:31Joe Rogan?

  Why? It's the same thing. I'm saying the same thing.

• 1:52:34Speaker 01

  I know.

• 1:52:34Joe Rogan?

  People of color is, okay, what do I say again? People of, okay, of color.

• 1:52:39Speaker 01

  Then in South Africa, that is a term, you know?

• 1:52:42Joe Rogan?

  What do you mean?

• 1:52:43Speaker 01

  In South Africa, there's black, white, and colored.

• 1:52:46Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 1:52:47Speaker 01

  Those are the three.

• 1:52:48Joe Rogan?

  What's colored?

• 1:52:49Speaker 01

  Uh, anyone who's not black or white. So like.

• 1:52:52Joe Rogan?

  Like Chinese people?

• 1:52:53Speaker 01

  Like, no, like if you're mixed, or if you're Indian.

• 1:52:56Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 1:52:56Speaker 01

  You know, like, then you're colored.

• 1:52:59Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 1:53:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:53:00Joe Rogan?

  How weird, man.

• 1:53:01Speaker 01

  So that's like the three.

• 1:53:04Joe Rogan?

  Boy.

• 1:53:05Speaker 01

  Broad terms.

• 1:53:06Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:53:07Speaker 01

  But I remember I was in Canada once, and I said, oh my God. I don't remember if I said like native, and they were like, yo. And I was like, I can't say native? And they were like, that's kind of offensive. We don't say that.

• 1:53:20Joe Rogan?

  First peoples.

• 1:53:21Speaker 01

  Yeah. So, and that was the first time I had heard that something that I thought I was saying, like with respect, was disrespectful. I was like, really? Native? They're like, yeah, hey, easy. Stop fucking saying it. I'm like.

• 1:53:32Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy.

• 1:53:33Speaker 01

  Okay, I was in Vancouver.

• 1:53:34Joe Rogan?

  Well, Vancouver's super woke.

• 1:53:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:53:37Joe Rogan?

  Super woke. Didn't used to be.

• 1:53:39Speaker 01

  Was it not?

• 1:53:40Joe Rogan?

  Nah. It's like weed. It was like a big weed place. It was a fun place.

• 1:53:44Speaker 01

  I've al- I'd always loved going to Vancouver.

• 1:53:46Joe Rogan?

  Vancouver used to be the shit. I mean, I haven't been in a long time. The last time I was supposed to go, I had a big four twenty show that was supposed to be there in twenty twenty. Like, right, right after the pandemic. We were doing an arena up there, and we had to shut it down. And then we rescheduled it, and they had to shut it down again. And then things just got real weird up there, and I'm like, I'm not going back.

• 1:54:07Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:54:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. I'm not going back.

• 1:54:09Speaker 01

  You haven't been there in Canada since?

• 1:54:11Joe Rogan?

  No. And I've talked a lot of shit about Canada.

• 1:54:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, you have talked a lot of shit.

• 1:54:16Joe Rogan?

  Lot of shit.

• 1:54:17Speaker 01

  You talked a lot of shit about Trudeau.

• 1:54:19Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, lot of shit.

• 1:54:20Speaker 01

  He's out of power now. He's not.

• 1:54:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Justifiably, though. It's like, what they did up there, they, they, they're doing some wild things. And they just completely wrecked that country in terms of. But they're moving closer and closer to communism in this really weird way. And I know people want to push back against that, but you have to understand that like, they don't have, first of all, they don't have freedom of speech. They have hate speech laws, so they can move the goal. But this was Jordan Peterson's argument about this, when they were trying to impose certain pronouns that he was supposed to use and certain things that you're supposed to say. And he's like, "You can't force me to say things." Like, this is forced speech. And this is, and the problem is, they'll call things hate speech, and then if you use force,

• 1:55:05Joe Rogan?

  they'll force you to use that under the threat of law. And it's like, okay, well, what is, where does this go? It goes, you're gonna arrest people for not going along with seventy-eight different pronouns, or whatever the fuck they are? Are you gonna, you gonna kick them out of their job? Like, do you understand that this is kind of crazy?

• 1:55:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:55:23Joe Rogan?

  And then, this weird thing they're doing with MAID, okay? Um, where they're doing assisted suicide? You know about all this?

• 1:55:30Speaker 01

  Uh-uh.

• 1:55:31Joe Rogan?

  Okay. One in twenty people in Canada, make sure this is true. One in twenty people in Canada dies from assisted suicide.

• 1:55:40Speaker 01

  One in twenty?

• 1:55:41Joe Rogan?

  One in twenty. There's an actual business now that's involved in assisted suicide.

• 1:55:48Speaker 01

  Is that government sanctioned? Like, is it?

• 1:55:50Joe Rogan?

  Government sanctioned, yeah. It's a program, yeah.

• 1:55:52Speaker 01

  Damn.

• 1:55:53Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. And they, they killed a guy who had seasonal depression.

• 1:55:58Joe Rogan?

  Look at this. Five point one percent of all deaths in the country.

• 1:56:02Speaker 01

  Holy fuck.

• 1:56:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Medically assisted dying, that's what it's called, that's MAID. Uh, officially known as medical assistance in dying. Between two thousand sixteen and the end of twenty twenty-four, there were seventy-six thousand four hundred and seventy-five recorded MAID deaths.

• 1:56:17Speaker 01

  Damn. You can just sign up? Just be like, "I want this."

• 1:56:20Joe Rogan?

  I don't like this. Twenty twenty-four alone, there were sixteen thousand four hundred and ninety-nine MAID provisions.

• 1:56:27Joe Rogan?

  Five percent of all deaths, five point one percent of all deaths in the country. How nuts is that?

• 1:56:33Speaker 01

  That's nuts.

• 1:56:34Joe Rogan?

  Find the one guy that they killed that had seasonal depression. And the family was like, what the fuck?

• 1:56:41Speaker 01

  He just walks into a place?

• 1:56:42Joe Rogan?

  You could just sign up. You sign up for it. I don't want to live anymore. I'm depressed. I'm depressed.

• 1:56:49Speaker 01

  There you go.

• 1:56:49Joe Rogan?

  Canadian man, twenty-six, with seasonal depression, euthanized despite no terminal illness. Look at that guy.

• 1:56:56Speaker 01

  Oh, that was recent, too.

• 1:56:57Joe Rogan?

  He just needs friends.

• 1:56:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:56:58Joe Rogan?

  Guy needs a hug. Twenty-six-year-old Canadian man who had seasonal depression has been euthanized by a notorious doctor, who is personally responsible for ending the lives of over four hundred of her patients.

• 1:57:10Speaker 01

  Oh, my god, dude.

• 1:57:11Joe Rogan?

  What a psycho.

• 1:57:13Speaker 01

  This fucking Oude is back.

• 1:57:15Joe Rogan?

  Jesus Christ.

• 1:57:16Speaker 01

  That's so crazy.

• 1:57:19Joe Rogan?

  Okay, so it's just, he had other issues. So, Keanu Vafian, I don't know if I, how to say his last name, also had partial vision loss and lived with type-one diabetes. He faced mental health struggles, which often became worse in the winter as a result of a car accident when he was seventeen. After losing vision in one of his eyes in twenty-twenty-two, he became obsessed with ending his life by assisted dying.

• 1:57:46Joe Rogan?

  Hmm.

• 1:57:47Speaker 01

  That's really fucking sad, man. Goddamn.

• 1:57:49Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you're just not happy. Instead of people saying, let's figure out a way to make you happy.

• 1:57:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:57:55Joe Rogan?

  You know?

• 1:57:56Speaker 01

  We're gonna put you down.

• 1:57:57Joe Rogan?

  We're gonna just put you down. And then there, there's money in it, which is weird. It's weird where there's money gets exchanged. People make a living doing it, people, the government pays for it. There's profit involved in killing people.

• 1:58:11Speaker 01

  In killing people?

• 1:58:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. They're killing old people that just don't want to do it anymore. Eh, I'm having a hard time, matey. Oh, step into the chamber.

• 1:58:19Speaker 01

  Fuck.

• 1:58:19Joe Rogan?

  I don't know what they do to them.

• 1:58:20Speaker 01

  I wonder, I wonder, like, if, um, like, family knew beforehand, or they just get, like, a notification, hey, we put them down, you know?

• 1:58:29Joe Rogan?

  Right. If you're a grown adult, I wonder if the family even gets informed if you don't want them to be. What is the way they do it? Is it lethal injection? What if you're like, I want to be beheaded?

• 1:58:42Joe Rogan?

  I wanna go guillotine style.

• 1:58:43Speaker 01

  I wanna have my tongue ripped out by pliers first.

• 1:58:46Joe Rogan?

  Oh, I read this crazy story about this guy who set up a guillotine over his bed. And he had timed it for when he was asleep. So he timed it for 3 a.m. And so he went to sleep and then his father heard this loud bang in the middle of the night and thought that maybe he fell down or something fell over. And the son had literally rigged a guillotine with a timer in his house. And at 3 a.m. it hit the switch and this giant fucking blade lops off his head.

• 1:59:23Speaker 01

  A really cool thing to do to your parents, man.

• 1:59:26Joe Rogan?

  Bro, he must have hated his dad.

• 1:59:27Speaker 01

  Fuck.

• 1:59:28Joe Rogan?

  Hey, hey fuckhead, all that shitty things you said to me and all the

• 1:59:33Speaker 01

  That's real, dude?

• 1:59:34Joe Rogan?

  fucked up way you raised me. Yeah, see if you can find that story.

• 1:59:36Speaker 01

  Holy.

• 1:59:37Joe Rogan?

  Who knows what's real, but I think it's real. Guillotine death was suicide.

• 1:59:42Joe Rogan?

  Builder Boyd Taylor spent several weeks constructing the complex device at the home he shared with his father in the village of Milburn near Morpeth. Where is that? Is that England?

• 1:59:53Speaker 01

  Bro, several weeks, this is super methodical.

• 1:59:56Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. The general hospital recorded a verdict of suicide on Thursday. The hearing was told that the complicated mechanism was primed to switch itself on at 3:30 GMT and caused a blade to fall on Mr. Taylor's neck. In a written statement read out by Southeast Northumberland coroner Eric Armstrong, Robert Taylor said he knew his son had been working on something in his bedroom for several weeks. Jesus Christ. He was woken by a rumbling noise, which he thought was the chimney had fallen off the roof.

• 2:00:31Speaker 01

  Oh, my God.

• 2:00:32Joe Rogan?

  That's his head.

• 2:00:34Joe Rogan?

  Father and son worked together in the family building company. But Boyd Taylor has been off for, over Christmas, saying he wanted to stay at home. Fuck.

• 2:00:41Speaker 01

  I respect the, um, like, the, the message so much.

• 2:00:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:00:46Speaker 01

  Like, the fuck you of it all, to his dad.

• 2:00:48Joe Rogan?

  This is my favorite part. He said Mr. Taylor's death was not a spur of the moment decision.

• 2:00:52Speaker 01

  No shit.

• 2:00:53Joe Rogan?

  Duh. Yeah. Fucking crazy, man.

• 2:00:56Speaker 01

  Oh, my god.

• 2:00:57Joe Rogan?

  That's the crazy thing about people that want to kill themselves. Oftentimes, they don't tell anybody.

• 2:01:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:01:03Joe Rogan?

  And no one knows until it happens.

• 2:01:05Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:01:06Joe Rogan?

  And, and they're like, imagine if you're his dad, and you're like, I should have fucking checked his bedroom.

• 2:01:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:01:11Joe Rogan?

  Maybe I could have hugged him.

• 2:01:13Speaker 01

  I heard him hammering.

• 2:01:13Joe Rogan?

  Maybe I could have gotten him some MDMA. Maybe I could have done something to snap him out of it. I thought he was just making a cool cabinet.

• 2:01:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:01:21Joe Rogan?

  And wanted to respect his privacy.

• 2:01:23Speaker 01

  But maybe his dad doesn't think like that, you know?

• 2:01:26Joe Rogan?

  Maybe his dad's like, that faggot, he's out there sucking cocks and he gets sad. Fuck him. I don't know.

• 2:01:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean...

• 2:01:32Joe Rogan?

  I don't know why I had that accent either, it's a long country.

• 2:01:34Speaker 01

  It's a long country. But, I mean, to, to want to do that and have your dad find it.

• 2:01:39Joe Rogan?

  Bro, that's dark.

• 2:01:41Speaker 01

  That's really dark.

• 2:01:42Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you don't like your dad, for sure.

• 2:01:43Speaker 01

  No.

• 2:01:43Joe Rogan?

  Or you don't care. You don't give a fuck about anybody.

• 2:01:46Speaker 01

  You still working on that thing? Yeah. Okay.

• 2:01:49Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's a cabinet. Leave me the fuck alone, dad. Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry, son. Feel like fishing, maybe, sometime? No. Maybe. Maybe. Not now.

• 2:01:58Speaker 01

  Maybe in the spring.

• 2:01:59Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Maybe after 3:30 a.m. tomorrow. What?

• 2:02:02Speaker 01

  It's a weird time. Yeah. Fuck, man.

• 2:02:06Joe Rogan?

  I mean, yeah, it's set, timed and rigged. Also, he wanted to impress people. Like, wow, respect.

• 2:02:12Speaker 01

  Respect.

• 2:02:12Joe Rogan?

  Like, this guy fucking playing.

• 2:02:14Speaker 01

  His level of dedication to this plan is pretty incredible.

• 2:02:17Joe Rogan?

  I mean, he set it above his fucking neck while he was sleeping.

• 2:02:20Speaker 01

  How do you fall asleep?

• 2:02:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, right there. Uh, okay. Goodnight.

• 2:02:27Speaker 01

  Ding.

• 2:02:27Joe Rogan?

  Chunk.

• 2:02:28Speaker 01

  And he had a, like, a test run, for sure.

• 2:02:31Joe Rogan?

  Oh, for sure. Hundred percent. And the night, oh. The inquest at Mass Bath General Hospital, Ashington, was told yesterday that the younger man had weighted the blade with a paving slab wired to plywood wedged into a wooden block at the foot of his bed. An electric jigsaw was plugged into a timer switch. The saw cut the wood, releasing the wire holding the blade.

• 2:02:58Speaker 01

  He took twelve sleeping pills, bro.

• 2:03:00Joe Rogan?

  Wow, that might have killed him anyway, right?

• 2:03:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:03:04Joe Rogan?

  Took twelve sleeping pills before laying under the guillotine, knowing that the sedatives were so strong that his position in the bed would not alter as he slept.

• 2:03:11Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 2:03:12Joe Rogan?

  Fuck. His father heard the jigsaw in action and thought the chimney had collapsed, but returned to the bed when all felt quiet. Felt quiet. The mechanism cut power to the electric tool after it completed its tasks. Wow. He had it set to shut off after it completed its task. This guy is thorough.

• 2:03:32Speaker 01

  But, like, also, his, uh, his knowledge of being able to put that together, like, that's, that's some engineering skill.

• 2:03:39Joe Rogan?

  Look at this, uh, it says his son had never fully recovered from his parents' separation when he was fifteen. He had attempted suicide as a teenager.

• 2:03:46Speaker 01

  He's thirty-six now, twenty-one years later.

• 2:03:50Joe Rogan?

  Meanwhile, like...

• 2:03:52Speaker 01

  I think Dad was a dick, dude.

• 2:03:53Joe Rogan?

  Maybe.

• 2:03:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:03:55Joe Rogan?

  Possibly.

• 2:03:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:03:56Speaker 03

  It also says there are partners in a small, a small building firm he ran with his father.

• 2:04:01Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, we said that earlier, I think.

• 2:04:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's working with a, working on a carpentry project.

• 2:04:05Joe Rogan?

  Jeez.

• 2:04:07Speaker 03

  But he was also at the father's house, correct? So he left work to go back, I don't know, it seems like they were separated, but they definitely weren't.

• 2:04:15Joe Rogan?

  I thought they were living together.

• 2:04:17Speaker 01

  Dude, it said it's an eight-foot-high, three-foot-wide structure that he put in his room.

• 2:04:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, how's dad not notice that?

• 2:04:26Speaker 03

  He's in a cottage, so that means it's small, right?

• 2:04:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:04:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:04:29Speaker 03

  He's just not paying attention.

• 2:04:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:04:31Joe Rogan?

  Built an inner door to his bedroom. An inner door? Before putting together the eight foot high, three foot wide structure, housing a guillotine blade and devices to trigger its descent.

• 2:04:44Speaker 01

  Man.

• 2:04:45Joe Rogan?

  Probably one of the wildest ways to go.

• 2:04:47Speaker 01

  I've never heard anything like this.

• 2:04:48Joe Rogan?

  That guy doesn't need the Canadian government.

• 2:04:50Speaker 01

  No.

• 2:04:50Joe Rogan?

  It's like, I got this.

• 2:04:51Speaker 01

  I got this.

• 2:04:52Joe Rogan?

  Got this.

• 2:04:53Speaker 01

  I mean, there's, there's some, some creative ways to do it, but that's probably the...

• 2:04:58Joe Rogan?

  They do a...

• 2:04:59Speaker 01

  And to find that, to leave the discovery is also, you know, yeah.

• 2:05:03Joe Rogan?

  And also just leave a mess. You gotta clean that up. Is that what it, is that the thing? Is that what it looked like?

• 2:05:09Speaker 03

  I mean, there's, there's an article about it and the picture is right below the paragraph.

• 2:05:14Joe Rogan?

  That's it?

• 2:05:14Speaker 03

  Talking about it.

• 2:05:15Joe Rogan?

  But why is it all covered in blood?

• 2:05:17Speaker 01

  No, that's probably, that's...

• 2:05:17Speaker 03

  I don't know.

• 2:05:19Speaker 01

  That's probably...

• 2:05:19Joe Rogan?

  That might not be it.

• 2:05:20Speaker 03

  It might just be a guillotine.

• 2:05:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:05:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:05:22Speaker 01

  Oh, my God.

• 2:05:23Speaker 03

  I was trying to find pictures.

• 2:05:24Speaker 01

  He knew he was building something.

• 2:05:26Joe Rogan?

  And he made sure it was real high, so that fucker had some good momentum.

• 2:05:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:05:30Joe Rogan?

  Shaboom! Woo, a paving stone.

• 2:05:34Speaker 01

  Oh, my God, dude.

• 2:05:35Joe Rogan?

  Bro, what a fucking psycho. Twelve sleeping pills? I'm getting this anyway.

• 2:05:41Speaker 01

  So you find your spot, yeah.

• 2:05:43Joe Rogan?

  Imagine the last thoughts in his mind, like, "See you in Valhalla."

• 2:05:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:05:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:05:51Joe Rogan?

  Fuck!

• 2:05:52Speaker 01

  Fuck you, Dad.

• 2:05:53Joe Rogan?

  I know, um, there's certain states where you can go and whack yourself in America. Oregon's one of them. Because, uh, Michael Laer, you remember him from Kill Tony? He had ALS.

• 2:06:03Speaker 01

  Yes, yes.

• 2:06:04Joe Rogan?

  He ended his life up there.

• 2:06:06Speaker 01

  Uh, yeah.

• 2:06:07Joe Rogan?

  And this, he was at the door.

• 2:06:09Speaker 01

  That level of suffering, though, yeah.

• 2:06:11Joe Rogan?

  He actually went up there once and chickened out, or didn't chicken out, changed his mind, I should say. Wouldn't say chicken out, it's a terrible way to say it.

• 2:06:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:06:20Joe Rogan?

  Went up there, changed his mind, came back and did a couple more episodes of Kill Tony.

• 2:06:25Speaker 01

  And then went?

• 2:06:26Joe Rogan?

  And then went up and did it.

• 2:06:26Speaker 01

  I met him a couple of times.

• 2:06:28Joe Rogan?

  Funny dude, man.

• 2:06:28Speaker 01

  Very funny.

• 2:06:29Joe Rogan?

  Very funny dude. Real bummer.

• 2:06:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:06:32Joe Rogan?

  You know, it's like, I get that. I get when you're at that stage, but seasonal depression?

• 2:06:37Speaker 01

  That's not, yeah.

• 2:06:38Joe Rogan?

  Settle down.

• 2:06:39Speaker 01

  There's that thing in Alaska. If you get seasonal depression and you kill someone, it's a lesser charge.

• 2:06:49Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 2:06:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, cuz it's so prevalent there.

• 2:06:51Joe Rogan?

  God damn. Be nice to people in the winter.

• 2:06:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, it goes dark all day.

• 2:06:57Joe Rogan?

  Did you ever see that movie Thirty Days of Night?

• 2:07:00Speaker 01

  No.

• 2:07:00Joe Rogan?

  It's a vampire movie about Alaska.

• 2:07:03Speaker 01

  I saw the one with Pacino and Robin Williams. That also is like a insomnia thing in Alaska.

• 2:07:10Joe Rogan?

  I don't know what that one is, no.

• 2:07:11Speaker 01

  Is it called that?

• 2:07:12Speaker 03

  It's called insomnia, yeah.

• 2:07:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. And you feel it watching that movie. The performances and the way it's shot pull it out of you. You're like, fuck.

• 2:07:24Joe Rogan?

  You ever see that one where Robin Williams played the psycho guy that develops pictures?

• 2:07:28Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 2:07:29Joe Rogan?

  Twenty-four Hour Photo, I think it's called.

• 2:07:30Speaker 01

  Was that Bobcat?

• 2:07:33Joe Rogan?

  Did he make that?

• 2:07:34Speaker 01

  He did a few with Robin Williams, I think.

• 2:07:35Joe Rogan?

  I don't know if he made that. He might have. But that one was nuts.

• 2:07:40Speaker 01

  Robin Williams was so fucking good.

• 2:07:42Joe Rogan?

  So talented, man.

• 2:07:42Speaker 01

  So talented.

• 2:07:43Joe Rogan?

  That he could be that funny and also that creepy.

• 2:07:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:07:46Joe Rogan?

  Like that he could really play like a real fucking psycho really well.

• 2:07:49Speaker 03

  One Hour Photo.

• 2:07:49Joe Rogan?

  One Hour Photo, that's it.

• 2:07:51Speaker 01

  Who made that one?

• 2:07:52Speaker 03

  Nah, Robert.

• 2:07:53Speaker 01

  Oh, Mark Romanek, sorry.

• 2:07:56Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that was fucking super creepy. Super creepy.

• 2:08:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:08:01Joe Rogan?

  This Thirty Days of Night is a fun vampire movie.

• 2:08:03Speaker 01

  Is it?

• 2:08:04Joe Rogan?

  Because they show up in Alaska during the time it's the winter, where it's night for thirty days in like northern Alaska.

• 2:08:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:08:10Joe Rogan?

  And then they don't ever have to go to sleep in the day and they just fuck everybody up for like thirty days.

• 2:08:15Speaker 01

  That's pretty cool.

• 2:08:16Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, fun.

• 2:08:17Speaker 01

  I did Alaska in the opposite in the summer when it was sun never.

• 2:08:20Joe Rogan?

  That's weird.

• 2:08:21Speaker 01

  That's weird, too.

• 2:08:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, Ari and I did that once. We did some shows and we went salmon fishing and it was like bright out at 2:00 a.m.

• 2:08:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:08:29Joe Rogan?

  Weird.

• 2:08:29Speaker 01

  It's weird, man. We got back to the hotel and like the sun's out. It's like midnight.

• 2:08:34Joe Rogan?

  I know. You don't know what to do.

• 2:08:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:08:36Joe Rogan?

  Your body's so confused.

• 2:08:38Speaker 01

  It's a very confusing feeling.

• 2:08:41Joe Rogan?

  How do people sleep up there with masks? They just put the eye masks on?

• 2:08:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, everyone has like blackout windows and everything, yeah. Yeah, because I remember you're like, wait, it's not that late, right? And you're like, no, it's midnight right now.

• 2:08:51Joe Rogan?

  I wonder if crime goes down.

• 2:08:54Speaker 01

  In the summer months?

• 2:08:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:08:57Joe Rogan?

  I wonder, you know?

• 2:08:58Speaker 01

  Has to.

• 2:08:59Joe Rogan?

  You'd imagine, because I think people do more crime, like, ooh, it's dark out.

• 2:09:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:09:03Joe Rogan?

  Go do crime.

• 2:09:04Speaker 01

  And crime is also, isn't crime usually spike in places when it's like heatwaves?

• 2:09:09Joe Rogan?

  Probably, yeah, they get hot and angry.

• 2:09:12Speaker 01

  Yeah. You get more domestics, for sure.

• 2:09:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Well, that's why you brought the seasonal depression thing, when it's night out all the time.

• 2:09:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:09:21Joe Rogan?

  That's why people whack each other.

• 2:09:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:09:23Joe Rogan?

  Makes sense.

• 2:09:23Speaker 01

  They get so fucking depressed, yeah.

• 2:09:25Joe Rogan?

  Oh, you know vitamin D, especially if you're not a vitamin person, you're not supplementing.

• 2:09:28Speaker 01

  Ugh. Yeah.

• 2:09:30Joe Rogan?

  You have no vitamin D.

• 2:09:32Speaker 01

  None.

• 2:09:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's what's fucked about like flu season. People are like, oh, flu season, flu's coming around. Well, why do you think that is? It's because no one's outside, because no one has any vitamin D, so everybody gets the flu.

• 2:09:45Speaker 01

  Is that why?

• 2:09:45Joe Rogan?

  A hundred percent. Yeah. That's why, why else would flu have a season? You can get flu in the summer. You can get flu anywhere. Why is, why are so many people getting it and spreading it?

• 2:09:56Speaker 01

  But your immune system's stronger.

• 2:09:57Joe Rogan?

  Immune system's destroyed. My doctor told me that. My doctor explained to me that when he was an internist in New York City, that he would test people in the middle of the winter, and they would have undetectable levels of vitamin D in their system.

• 2:10:10Speaker 01

  Really?

• 2:10:11Joe Rogan?

  It's crazy, because some people just never go outside, and they just, they're indoors all the time, and they don't take any vitamins.

• 2:10:19Speaker 01

  Their system just breaks down.

• 2:10:20Joe Rogan?

  They're eating fucking sloppy joes and french fries, and you wonder why.

• 2:10:24Speaker 01

  They're like, I can't believe I got sick.

• 2:10:26Joe Rogan?

  I can't believe you're alive.

• 2:10:28Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 2:10:30Joe Rogan?

  Well, that's what's fucked up about sunlight, is that like sunlight is actually a necessary part of being a human being. Like, you actually need it for vitamin D.

• 2:10:40Speaker 01

  I have such a notable, I mean, like dramatic difference in how much I got sick when I was fatter.

• 2:10:47Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:10:48Speaker 01

  Versus now, like, way different.

• 2:10:50Joe Rogan?

  Of course, of course.

• 2:10:51Speaker 01

  Dramatic. I was getting sick like, like real sick, like seven times a year.

• 2:10:54Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 2:10:55Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 2:10:57Joe Rogan?

  You've made like one of the most dramatic transformations of anybody that I know. Uh, other than Jelly Roll.

• 2:11:03Speaker 01

  Oh, my god.

• 2:11:04Joe Rogan?

  Jelly Roll is nuts.

• 2:11:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, I just saw him. He was, he went, he came to the 5K. He's down 300 pounds.

• 2:11:09Joe Rogan?

  I know. He was just at the club. He's, he's practicing stand up.

• 2:11:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, I heard.

• 2:11:13Joe Rogan?

  Dude, he killed.

• 2:11:14Speaker 01

  Really? I mean.

• 2:11:15Joe Rogan?

  Did well.

• 2:11:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:11:15Joe Rogan?

  He has, he's got good jokes. He's got some funny stories.

• 2:11:18Speaker 01

  He's a funny guy and he's like, he's comfortable with an audience.

• 2:11:21Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 2:11:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:11:22Joe Rogan?

  And just super likable.

• 2:11:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:11:24Joe Rogan?

  But it's like.

• 2:11:24Speaker 01

  And vulnerable, he's a vulnerable guy, too.

• 2:11:26Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and his transformation is even more crazy because he was at death's door. He was like, he couldn't even walk up a flight of stairs.

• 2:11:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's, it's amazing what he's done. It really is amazing.

• 2:11:36Joe Rogan?

  Incredible.

• 2:11:37Speaker 01

  Inspires a bunch of people, too, which is, which is awesome.

• 2:11:39Joe Rogan?

  And he's not done.

• 2:11:41Speaker 01

  No.

• 2:11:41Joe Rogan?

  Like, he's still full steam ahead. Like, he's changed his whole lifestyle. It's like a full shift. And now it's all just about getting that skin cut off.

• 2:11:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:11:51Joe Rogan?

  I'm like, ooh, that one hurts just thinking about it.

• 2:11:54Speaker 01

  I know. But I imagine how great he's gonna feel after that. It's gonna feel so good.

• 2:11:59Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. When it all heals up. You know, doing it the right way, though. Like, he's gotta get like a hyperbaric chamber. You know, um, definitely take peptides. And, you know, it's just scary, cuz like, skin gets infected.

• 2:12:13Speaker 01

  Oof.

• 2:12:13Joe Rogan?

  You know, infections are fucking terrifying. That's like the Uday Hussein thing, horrible motherfucker.

• 2:12:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:12:19Joe Rogan?

  Dragging people through gravel and then dunking them in sewers.

• 2:12:23Joe Rogan?

  What a piece of shit that guy was.

• 2:12:25Speaker 01

  And you also had to have the thought of like, how can I make this worse?

• 2:12:29Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:12:29Speaker 01

  You know, and someone's like, I don't know.

• 2:12:30Joe Rogan?

  How do I get these people infected?

• 2:12:31Speaker 01

  Well, you could put them in a, like, a bowl of shit. And he's like, let's do that.

• 2:12:34Joe Rogan?

  Let's scratch them up a lot first.

• 2:12:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:12:36Joe Rogan?

  Let's drag them through gravel.

• 2:12:38Speaker 01

  So there's wounds.

• 2:12:38Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, all over their body and then dunk them in a sewer.

• 2:12:43Speaker 01

  You got it, boss. Yeah.

• 2:12:44Joe Rogan?

  Ooh. Infections are fucking scary, man. I know a lot of people that get skin infections because of jiu jitsu.

• 2:12:51Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, that's a, it's a big thing.

• 2:12:52Joe Rogan?

  Huge, huge thing. Mikey Musumichi just defended his UFC Brazilian jiu jitsu title. Why can't I say that? UFC BJJ title.

• 2:13:02Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:13:03Joe Rogan?

  And, um, got hospitalized right afterwards with staff.

• 2:13:06Speaker 01

  Didn't, um, you know Kyle Busch, the driver, he just died?

• 2:13:10Joe Rogan?

  He died of sepsis, right?

• 2:13:11Speaker 01

  But that's like, a type of infection as well.

• 2:13:14Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, how did he get that?

• 2:13:16Speaker 03

  I believe already had pneumonia and then didn't treat it and kept, you know, racing and.

• 2:13:21Joe Rogan?

  Damn.

• 2:13:22Speaker 03

  It got worse.

• 2:13:22Joe Rogan?

  That's nuts.

• 2:13:23Speaker 01

  He's like 41, man.

• 2:13:24Joe Rogan?

  That's nuts. Fucking nuts, man.

• 2:13:27Speaker 01

  Crazy.

• 2:13:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, sepsis is crazy. One of my wife's friends from high school died of sepsis a few years back.

• 2:13:34Speaker 01

  My dad got sepsis in the hospital.

• 2:13:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, like he had a, he had a bone marrow transplant and then got sepsis, almost died.

• 2:13:44Joe Rogan?

  Ah.

• 2:13:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:13:46Joe Rogan?

  Oh, hospital infections are creepy, man, because like Joey Diaz, you know, he got his knee fixed? And he said that, what does it say here, timeline, Bush had been battling what he was originally believed to be a sinus cold for a couple of weeks. Even radioing his crew to have a doctor meet him after a race at Watkins Glen. Despite continuing to race and win, less than a week before his death, his condition rapidly deteriorated. He collapsed and became unresponsive in a Chevrolet racing simulator in Concord, North Carolina. Nine eleven caller noted that he was coughing up blood and had shortness of breath. He was transported to a Charlotte area hospital where he died.

• 2:14:21Speaker 01

  That is insane. Fuck, man. That is so crazy, man.

• 2:14:26Joe Rogan?

  But you know Hamzat Chimaev, the, the guy who was the middleweight champion before Sean Strickland just beat him?

• 2:14:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:14:31Joe Rogan?

  When he had COVID, he would not stop working out. He was training through COVID, like bad, and he was hospitalized multiple, multiple times. And he took a photograph of his toilet where he'd coughed blood into his toilet.

• 2:14:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:14:44Joe Rogan?

  And was saying, I'm retiring, I'm not fighting anymore, I'm retiring from MMA. And he posted, see if you can find the photograph.

• 2:14:50Speaker 01

  Oh, my god.

• 2:14:50Joe Rogan?

  On social media, he posted the photograph of his toilet with the blood in it.

• 2:14:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's told he may have cancer after coughing up blood in, in training, but it was.

• 2:15:03Speaker 01

  That was a while ago.

• 2:15:04Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, years ago. He wouldn't stop training. Like, he's such an animal that while he had COVID, he would not stop training.

• 2:15:11Speaker 01

  Now, that was a huge upset, right?

• 2:15:13Joe Rogan?

  It was an upset.

• 2:15:14Speaker 01

  It was an upset.

• 2:15:14Joe Rogan?

  I thought it could happen that way. I, I was actually saying, like, a lot of people, like Ari was arguing with me on Protect Our Parks. He's like, you always say that when someone doesn't have a chance, you always hype it up. Like, I think Strickland can win this fight. Because Strickland is like insanely durable. He's scary. Cause he doesn't go away. He's not gonna get tired, he doesn't go away, he's tough as shit. He was abused when he was young, so he's angry. Like, he is, he's dangerous and he's super skillful, very hard to hit. And he fought and won with a blown out shoulder.

• 2:15:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's crazy.

• 2:15:46Joe Rogan?

  He fucked his shoulder up like the week of the fight. Like, did something bad. He's coming and getting some stem cells at waist too well.

• 2:15:53Speaker 01

  Is he?

• 2:15:53Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he fucked it up and he doesn't even know what it was, but he couldn't use it right. I could tell when he was warming up before the fight started, he was doing this with his arm. Just doing this, like he was warming up, doing this, and he kept doing this. And that's what you do when your arm hurts.

• 2:16:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:16:09Joe Rogan?

  Like, if you hurt your shoulder, like, how bad does it hurt?

• 2:16:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:16:11Joe Rogan?

  Let me check, let me check real quick.

• 2:16:12Speaker 01

  And that's how he went into a fight?

• 2:16:14Joe Rogan?

  Went into a world title fight against the scariest guy in the division and beat him.

• 2:16:19Speaker 01

  Fuck.

• 2:16:20Joe Rogan?

  With one arm.

• 2:16:22Speaker 01

  I saw him, it was like the day before, two days before something. He was like, uh, doing construction on his driveway.

• 2:16:29Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Bro, rides motorcycle everywhere, world champion.

• 2:16:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:16:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he just was, went to, uh, that Misfits, no, what is it called? Um, Aiden Ross's thing that he does. He does some thing called, um, what does he call it? Brand something or not?

• 2:16:45Speaker 03

  Brand Risk.

• 2:16:46Joe Rogan?

  Brand Risk. Has people fight. Ray J, the guy who did the porno with Kim Kardashian. He's got knocked the fuck out in the MMA fight.

• 2:16:55Speaker 01

  Did you see the post interview?

• 2:16:56Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:16:56Speaker 01

  He was like, what the fuck, man? I thought we had a deal.

• 2:16:58Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:16:59Speaker 01

  That was weird.

• 2:16:59Joe Rogan?

  They made some sort of a deal, apparently. Well- At least he was implying that the guy wasn't gonna punch him in the face and knock him out.

• 2:17:06Speaker 01

  Well, the weird thing is, if you wa- I feel like if you watch that again, the punch, none of it's like, you're not watching pros, obviously. None of it seems like, it just seems kinda wild.

• 2:17:16Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:17:17Speaker 01

  And as he sees him stunned, he doesn't do what most people do when you stun somebody, which is follow up.

• 2:17:23Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:17:23Speaker 01

  He's kinda like, oh shit.

• 2:17:25Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:17:25Speaker 01

  Kind of the body language lends itself to that theory. Like, he just was like, uh, uh.

• 2:17:32Joe Rogan?

  And he's laughing, but he's also celebrating. He's like, ah, fuck it, I knocked him out. Look how out of shape Ray J is too. That's a crazy thing to be accepting a fight when you're that out of shape. Supa Hot Fire, that's his name, Supa Hot Fire.

• 2:17:48Speaker 01

  But see, he's just like...

• 2:17:50Joe Rogan?

  Well, both guys look like they didn't know what they're doing.

• 2:17:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's just like...

• 2:17:53Joe Rogan?

  But he hit him with one shot, and that was all it took. That's crazy. So they, he must, they must have made some sort of a deal where they weren't gonna hurt each other, and they were gonna do it for money. I wonder how much you paid him?

• 2:18:05Speaker 01

  That's so weird.

• 2:18:06Speaker 03

  Someone asked during the, uh, press conference they had, which I thought was true. Ray J said like a month or two ago, he was dying of some, just a heart disease or something really bad. And they're like, "You're fighting?" He's like, "Yeah, I'm going in here to die."

• 2:18:18Speaker 01

  You saw the Cam Newton thing, right?

• 2:18:20Joe Rogan?

  Cam Newton?

• 2:18:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, with Ray J?

• 2:18:22Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 2:18:23Speaker 01

  Oh, that's the best clip of the year on the internet.

• 2:18:25Joe Rogan?

  What is it?

• 2:18:25Speaker 01

  When Cam's like, "Are you gay?" You haven't seen that?

• 2:18:27Joe Rogan?

  No!

• 2:18:28Speaker 01

  Oh, it's the best.

• 2:18:29Joe Rogan?

  On Cam's podcast?

• 2:18:30Speaker 01

  Yes, it's the best.

• 2:18:31Joe Rogan?

  No!

• 2:18:31Speaker 01

  Oh, you got, you got, yeah, I can't do it justice.

• 2:18:33Joe Rogan?

  Okay, okay, okay.

• 2:18:34Speaker 01

  It's the best thing I've ever seen. And part of what's so great is that you know this, I know this, uh, from conducting interviews. There's a certain point in an interview, when you're, that you're having with someone, where if they start saying something, the best thing you can do is shut the fuck up, you know?

• 2:18:51Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:18:51Speaker 01

  It's like, you can just go...

• 2:18:53Joe Rogan?

  Give him some air.

• 2:18:53Speaker 01

  And Cam just goes... Like, where does Cam, Cam is, is 80% of the comedy, but it is the best. The full clip is just incredible.

• 2:19:04Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 2:19:06Speaker 01

  Is that the whole thing?

• 2:19:06Speaker 03

  I hope so. It's at least over a minute.

• 2:19:08Speaker 01

  It, oh...

• 2:19:11Speaker 04

  You asked me that last time. And I just, so I listen to like Biggie Smalls. You like Biggie? Are you a fan of Biggie?

• 2:19:17Joe Rogan?

  Can you just answer my question?

• 2:19:18Speaker 01

  He just said, "Are you gay?"

• 2:19:19Speaker 04

  I'm giving an analogy to it. There's a, there's a, there's something to it.

• 2:19:21Joe Rogan?

  Can you answer yes or no, and then go into that?

• 2:19:27Speaker 04

  Shout out to the gay agency.

• 2:19:28Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 2:19:30Speaker 04

  What does it matter if I'm gay or not?

• 2:19:31Joe Rogan?

  I just, it doesn't matter. I'm just asking a question.

• 2:19:34Speaker 04

  It's people like people.

• 2:19:39Speaker 04

  When they leave here, we're all together. When you leave and it's done and it's a wrap for the day, everybody's gonna do something. Everybody's gonna go to their respective places. Some people are gonna go home and I hate to say this, but it's just gonna be grimy, but I'm sure there's people that go home, they got a dog. Their favorite dog. They stop by the store, grab some peanut butter.

• 2:20:06Speaker 05

  Billy Ray, how old are you?

• 2:20:09Speaker 04

  I'm 45.

• 2:20:10Speaker 05

  You're 45 years old. In 45 years of living, have you ever been with a man?

• 2:20:17Speaker 01

  Is it not the full version? Yeah, cut some. You cut off, you cut off the best part. Sorry. That's alright, man. Trying to find the full version. It's so fantastic. Well, it's a three hour podcast, that's why. I know, but there's a, maybe the 412 one, is it? Or maybe this, what is this, how long is this one?

• 2:20:38Joe Rogan?

  This is, he's talking about having sex with women, though. Said he's had sex with 11,500 women.

• 2:20:43Speaker 04

  It was a massive parade.

• 2:20:45Speaker 05

  You're talking about different partners.

• 2:20:49Speaker 01

  What?

• 2:20:49Speaker 04

  Yeah, so we did a celebration, booby trap.

• 2:20:53Speaker 01

  I would scroll, try to get to where we were.

• 2:20:56Speaker 05

  This could go for, how many times you've had sex?

• 2:21:00Speaker 04

  No, no, no, these are 10,000 different people. I wanna be at 9, 9,000 an hour. I can only fuck a thousand more bitches. I can't do anymore.

• 2:21:11Speaker 05

  The average of, of, of.

• 2:21:13Speaker 01

  Good, really good bites.

• 2:21:14Speaker 05

  The volume of different sex partners.

• 2:21:16Speaker 04

  Some of my homegirls, they fuck.

• 2:21:20Speaker 05

  But I don't think, like, that's.

• 2:21:22Speaker 04

  What's your body count?

• 2:21:23Speaker 01

  No, this isn't it. No, that's not it, this is just a body count thing. If you go, if you go back, back to your search, 412 there, that might be it, see that one? This might be it. Yeah.

• 2:21:38Joe Rogan?

  Some people go home, put peanut butter on themselves.

• 2:21:41Speaker 01

  It's so much better.

• 2:21:42Joe Rogan?

  Okay, just pass it, pass where we were.

• 2:21:45Speaker 04

  So, people like people.

• 2:21:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, this, this.

• 2:21:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, this is it, scoot ahead a little bit.

• 2:21:50Speaker 04

  When they leave here, we're all together.

• 2:21:54Joe Rogan?

  It's like he's trying to.

• 2:21:56Speaker 04

  Grab some peanut butter.

• 2:21:57Speaker 01

  Watch this.

• 2:21:58Speaker 04

  Right? Go home, excited to see their dog. They put a bunch of peanut butter on their feet. Did the dog lick it off? Some people even go further to watch TV on all fours. Slap a little peanut butter in the crack and enjoy themselves. And the dog is having a good time, right? I don't know what that is. It's none of my business.

• 2:22:23Speaker 05

  Have you ever did that?

• 2:22:24Joe Rogan?

  Have you ever did that?

• 2:22:25Speaker 04

  Have I ever had a dog lick my ass with peanut butter in it? Um, no. But I'm familiar with it.

• 2:22:31Speaker 05

  Okay, so Willie Ray.

• 2:22:34Speaker 04

  I'm familiar with it because I caught somebody doing it.

• 2:22:37Speaker 05

  Willie Ray.

• 2:22:39Speaker 04

  I don't say no names, but it was like.

• 2:22:41Speaker 05

  Willie Ray.

• 2:22:42Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 2:22:43Speaker 05

  How old are you?

• 2:22:44Speaker 04

  I'm 45.

• 2:22:45Speaker 05

  You're 45 years old.

• 2:22:48Speaker 05

  In 45 years of living, have you ever been with a man?

• 2:22:57Speaker 04

  No.

• 2:22:58Speaker 05

  Do you have not?

• 2:22:59Speaker 04

  You have not is now you're going into it now.

• 2:23:02Speaker 05

  I'm just trying to confirm.

• 2:23:05Speaker 04

  Yeah, but I don't want to, but here's the thing. I sit on a gay agency board, pause.

• 2:23:10Speaker 04

  And I'm the only straight person on the board. But again, I have friends, shout out to Terod, shout out to Dumpin' D, shout out to Backshot.

• 2:23:18Joe Rogan?

  Dumpin' D, Backshot?

• 2:23:20Speaker 04

  And everybody else that, that supports the gay agency.

• 2:23:23Joe Rogan?

  The gay agency? What is the gay agency?

• 2:23:25Speaker 01

  I have no idea. He's on the board.

• 2:23:27Speaker 04

  It's not an agency, it's a gay agency.

• 2:23:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:23:29Speaker 04

  All things LGBTQ plus I, I plus, I'm sorry. It's just because you, I was already going in and then you looked up, I was plus, I, but it's I plus.

• 2:23:38Speaker 05

  Okay, cool.

• 2:23:39Joe Rogan?

  Okay, cool.

• 2:23:42Speaker 04

  I didn't want to have to ask this, but it's fair. Are you gay?

• 2:23:47Speaker 05

  No, sir.

• 2:23:47Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 2:23:50Speaker 04

  See?

• 2:23:50Speaker 05

  And I've never experienced nobody getting licked. I'm just.

• 2:23:57Speaker 04

  But that's for older people. Older people do that.

• 2:24:00Joe Rogan?

  Older people do that?

• 2:24:02Speaker 04

  No, I'm thinking like, it's like 50, 55.

• 2:24:05Joe Rogan?

  No, older, older people. Older people, they get their asshole licked by dogs.

• 2:24:10Speaker 03

  Keep going.

• 2:24:11Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 2:24:11Speaker 03

  We get it.

• 2:24:12Joe Rogan?

  I get it. Boy, he's insane.

• 2:24:13Speaker 01

  Isn't that great?

• 2:24:14Joe Rogan?

  What a character. You should have him on your mom's house.

• 2:24:16Speaker 01

  I fucking would love to.

• 2:24:17Joe Rogan?

  Have him explain what the post-fight speech was about.

• 2:24:19Speaker 01

  What was that about?

• 2:24:20Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:24:21Speaker 03

  Is he also the one that had the products with the glasses?

• 2:24:23Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 2:24:24Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:24:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, dude.

• 2:24:25Speaker 03

  He's invented some of the world's best products too, Joe. I don't know if you know about that.

• 2:24:27Speaker 01

  That's fucking amazing, dude. It's amazing.

• 2:24:32Joe Rogan?

  Um, what is the, uh, the post-fight speech? See if you can find that. Cause he said something really crazy.

• 2:24:40Joe Rogan?

  The way he said it was like very strange, talking about.

• 2:24:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, he was like getting interviewed and then he's like, yo, man. Like literally, he's like, I thought, I thought we weren't doing this.

• 2:24:49Joe Rogan?

  I don't want to get anybody in trouble.

• 2:24:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:24:51Joe Rogan?

  Or anything. But I thought we had a deal.

• 2:24:53Speaker 01

  Which seems like if people were placing bets on that, that's a, which they definitely were.

• 2:24:57Joe Rogan?

  They had to. People place bets on fucking everything now.

• 2:25:00Speaker 01

  There was another fight. Manzel fought too.

• 2:25:02Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:25:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:25:03Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:25:03Speaker 01

  People had to be placing bets.

• 2:25:04Joe Rogan?

  Hundred percent. Absolutely.

• 2:25:07Speaker 01

  I mean, that's the way to get a visit from the FBI, I feel like, you know?

• 2:25:09Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Well, it also seems like you're admitting to a crime, which is like, maybe it's just because you got a concussion.

• 2:25:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, sure. You could, I was just talking out of.

• 2:25:17Joe Rogan?

  I don't know what I was saying.

• 2:25:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:25:18Joe Rogan?

  I was talking crazy. I was trying to save face.

• 2:25:20Speaker 01

  I had peanut butter in my ass and I just didn't know what I was saying.

• 2:25:23Joe Rogan?

  Pretending that I didn't know.

• 2:25:25Speaker 03

  Which, uh, in the ring or this?

• 2:25:26Speaker 01

  It was in the ring.

• 2:25:27Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 2:25:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:25:28Speaker 03

  There's a small part, but they cut it out.

• 2:25:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, that was nuts.

• 2:25:32Joe Rogan?

  Oh, here.

• 2:25:32Speaker 04

  Brand risk event. And now the internet thinks this whole thing.

• 2:25:35Speaker 06

  Now, hold on. Don't talk to him. You don't deserve to talk to him. You done got a good ass haircut and then came here and got spunked.

• 2:25:41Speaker 04

  I thought we had a plan. What the?

• 2:25:43Speaker 01

  I thought we had a plan.

• 2:25:45Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there's more to it though.

• 2:25:46Speaker 03

  It's not the best video to pull from.

• 2:25:48Joe Rogan?

  Ah, I'm trying to find it. I think I have it here.

• 2:25:51Speaker 01

  Imagine getting your ass whooped by Super Hot Fire.

• 2:25:53Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's a great name.

• 2:25:54Speaker 01

  I know.

• 2:25:55Joe Rogan?

  I got it, Jamie. Here, I'll send it to you.

• 2:25:57Speaker 01

  He'll, Joe, who knocked you out?

• 2:25:58Joe Rogan?

  Super Hot Fire.

• 2:26:00Speaker 01

  Uh, that's pretty tight.

• 2:26:01Joe Rogan?

  Well, you know, what are you gonna do? It is Super Hot Fire. Yeah, I'll send it to you. It's just bizarre the way he says it.

• 2:26:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:26:09Joe Rogan?

  It's like you're either making an excuse or this is the dumbest criminal ever.

• 2:26:15Speaker 04

  I had a plan. I don't want to say too much because I don't want to get nobody in trouble, but damn, my nigga. Nigga, we, nigga, we took a L tonight.

• 2:26:24Speaker 06

  Uh, we didn't take shit. Your ass was over here.

• 2:26:29Speaker 04

  I gotta talk to that nigga about.

• 2:26:30Speaker 06

  Y'all talk backstage, Super.

• 2:26:33Speaker 04

  Money we lost.

• 2:26:35Speaker 06

  Nigga, we didn't think you was gonna win, so how y'all lost money?

• 2:26:40Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 2:26:42Speaker 06

  Yo.

• 2:26:42Speaker 01

  Man, that seems real as shit, though.

• 2:26:44Joe Rogan?

  That seems very real.

• 2:26:45Speaker 01

  That seems very real.

• 2:26:46Joe Rogan?

  So they must have, he must have said, listen, I'm gonna put a bunch of money on me to win.

• 2:26:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:26:51Joe Rogan?

  You have me win, and he just, look how much money we just lost.

• 2:26:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:26:55Joe Rogan?

  They were gonna split the money.

• 2:26:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, some Pulp Fiction shit right there.

• 2:26:58Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, boy. Well, we'll see.

• 2:27:01Speaker 01

  Superhotfire's like, Superhotfire doesn't take no money.

• 2:27:03Joe Rogan?

  Superhotfire gets killed in a drive-by, we know what's up.

• 2:27:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:27:06Joe Rogan?

  Like, now you can't even retaliate.

• 2:27:07Speaker 01

  That's fucking nuts, dude.

• 2:27:09Joe Rogan?

  I know, it's crazy that he admitted it publicly. It's like, very strange.

• 2:27:12Speaker 01

  Right in the moment?

• 2:27:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, very strange. Very strange that he would, I just, I mean, maybe he just got knocked out. Maybe he's never been knocked out before, and he was just like confused.

• 2:27:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:27:22Joe Rogan?

  And that's why he said it, but it seems like that was real.

• 2:27:26Speaker 01

  That did seem very real.

• 2:27:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and Superhotfire wasn't like, what the fuck are you talking about?

• 2:27:30Speaker 01

  No, he just, he kinda just.

• 2:27:31Joe Rogan?

  He was like, yeah, ah.

• 2:27:33Speaker 01

  Got the best.

• 2:27:34Joe Rogan?

  You can't take a shot.

• 2:27:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's like, do you know how much money we lost?

• 2:27:38Joe Rogan?

  I wonder how much money. They'll know. Like, they'll know bets.

• 2:27:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:27:42Joe Rogan?

  Hundred percent.

• 2:27:43Speaker 01

  And they'll also know, like, we got a few $200,000 bets that we should investigate, yeah.

• 2:27:48Joe Rogan?

  You know, the UFC has had a real problem with that.

• 2:27:50Speaker 01

  Really?

• 2:27:50Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:27:51Speaker 01

  In what way?

• 2:27:51Joe Rogan?

  Well, they caught people, um, they caught suspicious betting. And then, um, like, the line changes, like, very quickly, and there's a bunch of money being dumped on one fighter, and then it'll lose in a very specific way, like, the first round, then the fighter loses in the first round when they were the favorite. And then you find out that his coaches have bet on him and other different people, so it looks like they dumped the fight.

• 2:28:15Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 2:28:15Joe Rogan?

  Or maybe they went into the fight with a blown-out knee, and they knew it was blown out, and they said, I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna put a bunch of money on me to lose. And they go out and fight and lose. So the FBI's involved. And so there's a bunch of different fights that are being investigated.

• 2:28:30Speaker 01

  No shit.

• 2:28:30Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:28:32Speaker 01

  There was that crazy doc about that college basketball one from years ago that was just incredible. And, and the way that it all fell apart was they just got too greedy, you know, because they had a guy, who, I think he was the point guard, maybe at ASU or something? And, um, and once they had him, you know, like, locked in on this, they just, and they realized he really could swing it how they wanted to. They started just betting cra- and then, yeah, the FBI was looking at these betting lines and saying like, "Oh, really? There's $2 million on this game from one per- like, this is- They started to just get keyed in on it and then the whole thing got exposed.

• 2:29:11Joe Rogan?

  It's kind of funny that people don't think they're gonna get caught doing something like that.

• 2:29:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, especially at that, like, where you go like, "Oh, just all the money can go in." And it's like, "Yeah, it's too much, man." You know, you probably could've gotten away with 25 grand or whatever, you know? Like, something that doesn't really ring alarms. But if you start putting seven figures down, you don't think anyone's gonna take a second look at that?

• 2:29:36Joe Rogan?

  What are the rules? Like, what do you- like, you can't dump a fight, but if you know someone's hurt? Like, say if I know someone's hurt and I'm like, "Ooh, I know he's hurt." "I'm gonna put a bunch of money on him to lose." I wonder if that's legal? Is that insider trading?

• 2:29:53Speaker 01

  I don't think it is. I also feel like it's different, maybe I'm wrong, if you are getting a bunch of people to do it versus you're doing it because you had- you know what I mean? Because how could somebody-

• 2:30:06Joe Rogan?

  You can't be sure that he's not gonna still try to win.

• 2:30:09Speaker 01

  Yeah. Also, it's like, did you put a $5 million bet on it?

• 2:30:12Joe Rogan?

  Right. Well, look at it this way. Imagine if I found out that Strickland hurt his shoulder that week and I'm like, "Oh, his shoulder's blown out. I'll put all the money on Hamzat." And then I lost. DraftKings explicitly prohibits betting by insiders on sports or events where they have an unfair material or non-public advantage. This applies to athletes, coaches, referees, team personnel, and sportsbook employees using private information to gain a betting edge. But none of those people that they mentioned there, athletes, coaches, referees, team personnel, none of them is, like, you're friends with a guy because you train at the same gym as him.

• 2:30:50Speaker 01

  That's true.

• 2:30:50Joe Rogan?

  That's not a-

• 2:30:51Speaker 01

  Also, this is saying that this private company can do this, but legally? Is this a legal thing?

• 2:30:55Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's where I was gonna- when you brought up the $5 million bet, if they lose a big bet like that, you definitely gotta assume they're gonna look into like, "Well, who the fuck was this? When'd they make the bet? How many times have they done this? Did they get lucky one time?"

• 2:31:08Joe Rogan?

  Look at the Strickland fight. Like, if you- so, he was training with Johnny Eblen, who's the middleweight champion of the PFL, badass motherfucker, like, beast wrestler. And that's how he hurt his shoulder. And so like if you were there during those training sessions and you're like, oh, he's hurt. I'm gonna fucking sneak away and put some money on it.

• 2:31:26Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:31:27Joe Rogan?

  I wonder if that's legal.

• 2:31:28Speaker 01

  I wonder if it is too.

• 2:31:30Joe Rogan?

  Because first of all, you would have lost because Strickland wound up winning anyway.

• 2:31:35Speaker 01

  Exploiting non-public information such as knowing a star player is injured before it is announced can lead to criminal charges. Individuals caught coordinating insider betting schemes have faced federal felony charges, including wire fraud, bribery, and illegal gambling.

• 2:31:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but how's it bribery?

• 2:31:49Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 2:31:50Speaker 03

  It depends on what.

• 2:31:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, what the circumstances are. But if you were in that situation and you bet on Strickland to lose and he actually did lose and you knew, I wonder.

• 2:32:00Speaker 01

  I wonder.

• 2:32:01Joe Rogan?

  Because in that fight, he was the the underdog anyway.

• 2:32:04Speaker 01

  That is kind of interesting. What is the legal threshold for public information?

• 2:32:08Joe Rogan?

  Hmm.

• 2:32:09Speaker 01

  Because that's really what we're talking about.

• 2:32:11Joe Rogan?

  I think that's about fucking gambling in the stock market.

• 2:32:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:32:15Joe Rogan?

  Oh, did you see that thing that I sent you, Jamie?

• 2:32:17Speaker 03

  Yeah, and I.

• 2:32:18Joe Rogan?

  Is that real?

• 2:32:18Speaker 03

  Well, it's so that's a. Many things use that for statistics. That's things using percentages. So there's a chart Joe sent me about like the amount the S and P's gone up versus Republicans and Democrats and it's a percentage thing. Democrats are up like 900%. I think Republicans like 600% and the S and P was up like 508%. But percentages don't tell you like what you started with and what you ended with.

• 2:32:40Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:32:41Speaker 03

  You could have started with a hundred billion dollars and you made one billion dollars and you made 1% versus someone who made one million dollars. It doesn't sound the same, but they're not relative.

• 2:32:50Joe Rogan?

  Right, but they did the when you look at the chart and you look at the difference between the Republicans and Democrats in terms of insider trading in Congress.

• 2:32:59Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:32:59Joe Rogan?

  They're all doing it.

• 2:33:01Speaker 01

  They're all doing it.

• 2:33:01Joe Rogan?

  That's why they can do it.

• 2:33:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:33:03Joe Rogan?

  Because they're all doing it. If it was only the Democrats, the Republicans would be like, what the fuck, bro?

• 2:33:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:33:08Joe Rogan?

  But since they're all doing it, everybody's like, what? There's a problem. There's no problem. I don't see nothing.

• 2:33:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, here's the chart. This is like a an account that just takes data and makes charts out of it.

• 2:33:19Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, so it's them doing better than the S and P always.

• 2:33:24Speaker 03

  But again, just using percentages is not a great way because somebody could say something went up 77% or went up 300%. It doesn't matter what you're talking about. It sounds like a lot, but it might not be relative to what the actual number was.

• 2:33:34Speaker 01

  Well, that's really interesting that they're doing so well.

• 2:33:38Speaker 03

  Well, this is also saying like-

• 2:33:39Speaker 01

  It's sheer luck.

• 2:33:40Speaker 03

  They could, people could just bet Nvidia itself has gone up a shitload.

• 2:33:44Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:33:45Speaker 03

  If you just put money in Nvidia, you'd make a fuckload of money.

• 2:33:47Speaker 01

  I'll say this, that's a tough thing to resist, to be sitting in Congress.

• 2:33:52Joe Rogan?

  And you know you're not gonna get punished.

• 2:33:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:33:54Joe Rogan?

  No one, I mean, a few people have been punished, right? We looked that up the other day. A few fucking blabbermouths, probably. Some outsider, some shithead, that they were like, "Fuck him, throw him under the bus."

• 2:34:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:34:04Joe Rogan?

  They probably had a few guys they threw under the bus.

• 2:34:06Speaker 01

  And it was probably somebody that didn't have a portfolio.

• 2:34:09Joe Rogan?

  Didn't Trump do a lot of, like, stock purchases?

• 2:34:13Speaker 01

  He's made a fortune. He's made a fortune in this term.

• 2:34:17Speaker 03

  They made a settlement with the IRS, I think that's why a lot of it came out recently. But like, he can't be charged with anything or-

• 2:34:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, they can't be, the latest thing is that he and his kids and his company cannot be audited.

• 2:34:30Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's cool.

• 2:34:30Speaker 01

  That is cool. That's my settlement.

• 2:34:34Joe Rogan?

  What was the settlement? What was the IRS being sued for? What was the accusation?

• 2:34:40Speaker 01

  It was for the leak, the leak of his tax returns.

• 2:34:46Joe Rogan?

  Okay, so the IRS leaked his tax returns?

• 2:34:48Speaker 01

  He, yeah, he said they were reckless and-

• 2:34:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, settlement of his $10 billion lawsuit.

• 2:34:54Joe Rogan?

  2018 leak of his tax returns, New York Times, in the US is forever barred and precluded from examining or prosecuting Trump, his sons, and the Trump Organization's current tax filings, according to one-page document released Tuesday. That is so crazy. Imagine like, somebody accuses you of murder-

• 2:35:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:35:12Joe Rogan?

  And it turns out you weren't guilty of that murder, and then you sue them, and you go, "You can never prosecute me for murder again." And then you just go straight, "Ode to Hussein."

• 2:35:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, and they're like, "It's cool." Yeah, it's fine. Now, here's the only thing, the detail of that, is part of that settlement that says that, like, the language, that they cannot be, for their current tax filings, does that mean, though, that in the future, future filings also fall under that immunity?

• 2:35:42Joe Rogan?

  Oh, go back, go back, please. This is crazy. Like, go back to the top of that, right there. "Under the settlement to resolve Trump's $10 billion lawsuit over the 2018 leak, leak of his tax returns to the New York Times, the US is forever barred and precluded." But now, look at the end- It was quietly added to the original establishment, original settlement establishing a 1.8 billion dollar fund to compensate people who Trump thinks were improperly investigated by the government.

• 2:36:12Speaker 03

  It's the January 6th fund, I believe.

• 2:36:14Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:36:14Speaker 03

  They're paying for all of their legal fees.

• 2:36:16Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 2:36:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:36:17Joe Rogan?

  But 1.8 billion is probably more than their legal fees, I would imagine?

• 2:36:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's also gonna be for like, you know, I was, um, I was...

• 2:36:26Speaker 03

  Compensation.

• 2:36:26Joe Rogan?

  So do they get compensated?

• 2:36:28Speaker 03

  That depends.

• 2:36:28Speaker 01

  They're all, they're all filing, you know, making claims.

• 2:36:31Joe Rogan?

  Are they?

• 2:36:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, a lot of them are making claims, yeah.

• 2:36:34Joe Rogan?

  Well, here's what's fucked. For sure, there were government people that were rabble-rousers. There were, there were people that were trying to get people to go into the Capitol. That's a fact. How many? There's, they call them agent provocateurs.

• 2:36:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:36:52Joe Rogan?

  So there's people that your tax dollars pay that were trying to get people to commit crimes.

• 2:36:58Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 2:36:59Joe Rogan?

  We don't know how many.

• 2:37:00Speaker 01

  We don't know, yeah.

• 2:37:01Joe Rogan?

  And supposedly, no, they were just there to monitor. Really? Okay, but we know that people have done that in the past, where they've encouraged people to commit crimes.

• 2:37:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:37:09Joe Rogan?

  And we do know that there was some knowledge that this was gonna happen, and that they, they wanted it to happen. They wanted it to happen exactly that way. And they encouraged people to do it, so they can make it look like Donald Trump is a real threat.

• 2:37:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:37:22Joe Rogan?

  And keep him from running for reelection again.

• 2:37:24Speaker 01

  That didn't work out.

• 2:37:25Joe Rogan?

  The whole thing is crazy. Like, imagine that there are government employees with government tax dollars, they're being paid, and they're being paid to encourage people to commit crimes they would have never committed without it. We know that's a fact. That's a real thing.

• 2:37:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:37:44Joe Rogan?

  There's a guy in Dallas, uh, who was 19 years old, that they tricked into detonating a fake bomb. They radicalized him, gave him a cellphone, gave him a bomb.

• 2:37:56Speaker 01

  The, like, the feds?

• 2:37:57Joe Rogan?

  The feds.

• 2:37:57Speaker 01

  Jesus.

• 2:37:58Joe Rogan?

  They, they made him a jihadist. So, he goes to detonate the bomb, it's not a real bomb, anyway. And then lock him up in jail forever. They give him the bomb, they give him the cellphone to detonate the bomb, they talk him into doing it, the whole deal.

• 2:38:11Speaker 01

  And there's not gonna be any, they're just like, that's done?

• 2:38:14Joe Rogan?

  That's it. How about that lady in, what was it, Michigan? Which state was it? Where the, they, there was fourteen people that were trying to kidnap her. Turns out twelve of them were FBI informants.

• 2:38:27Speaker 01

  What the fuck? Really?

• 2:38:29Joe Rogan?

  Yes, yes. It was Michigan, right? What is that lady's name?

• 2:38:33Speaker 03

  The Whitmer.

• 2:38:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, Governor Whitmer. So, there's fourteen people involved in this kidnapping plot. Twelve of them were FBI informants. So, it's like a whole crew of FBI, Fed.

• 2:38:48Speaker 01

  With the goal of what?

• 2:38:49Joe Rogan?

  Of arresting these two suckers. These two retards that think it's a good idea to play along with these dorks. And these guys are like, "We thought we were just talking shit." "You're fucking..."

• 2:39:00Speaker 01

  And now they're locked up.

• 2:39:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:39:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:39:04Joe Rogan?

  Sorry. But, I mean, that's, they, they spent money on this. It's like, your tax dollars go to try to trick people into doing a crime that you know they're gonna do and they're never gonna be able to do, because you're gonna arrest them before they go to do it.

• 2:39:15Speaker 01

  It sucks as a criminal to think that you have to really doubt who you're working with, you know?

• 2:39:20Joe Rogan?

  Hard times.

• 2:39:21Speaker 01

  It's hard, man. I thought we were gonna have some fun. Turns out you're a fucking snitch.

• 2:39:25Joe Rogan?

  Maybe that could be an episode of, uh, yeah, next season.

• 2:39:28Speaker 01

  It's a good one, yeah.

• 2:39:29Joe Rogan?

  It's a good one, right?

• 2:39:30Speaker 01

  It's a fun one.

• 2:39:30Joe Rogan?

  That's actually a very good one. There's probably a lot of room for comedy in that.

• 2:39:35Speaker 01

  Tons.

• 2:39:35Joe Rogan?

  It's just crazy. Because it's like, they have to, this, this is the problem. And it's not entirely, it is their fault that they did that, but it's not entirely their fault, because they have to make arrests. You want another one, or are you good?

• 2:39:48Speaker 01

  No, I'm good, thanks.

• 2:39:49Joe Rogan?

  If you want to have a career, your career is dependent upon you making arrests.

• 2:39:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:39:54Joe Rogan?

  You know, this is the stuff that I've worked with Josh Dubin, with the, um, wrongfully prosecuted and convicted people. One of the things you find out is that a lot of these prosecutors, what it is, is they want to boost up their career by getting cases. Handled.

• 2:40:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:40:11Joe Rogan?

  They wanted, they wanna arrest people, they want those people to be convicted, that makes them look good. So they just fucking monkey around with the evidence.

• 2:40:20Speaker 01

  This feels like a, like a traffic cop meeting his quota.

• 2:40:23Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 2:40:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:40:24Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 2:40:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, you, you didn't use your blinker.

• 2:40:26Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 2:40:26Speaker 01

  The fuck are you doing, man?

• 2:40:27Joe Rogan?

  Dude, I had a guy pull me over and then he recognized me and let me go, but he pulled me over and said that I crossed the white line. And I was like, what? And he goes, he was, he followed me like the moment I left where I was at.

• 2:40:41Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:40:42Joe Rogan?

  He was on my ass, like immediately, so I saw across the white, like, so he was, I was in my little loud BMW, my little E forty-six.

• 2:40:48Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:40:48Joe Rogan?

  And it's, you know, probably like, look at this douchebag.

• 2:40:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:40:51Joe Rogan?

  Like, he's probably drunk.

• 2:40:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:40:53Joe Rogan?

  Thankfully, I was completely sober, but he pulls me over and he's like, uh, I saw you cross the white line back there. I go, really? I go, okay. I go, I don't think I did, but, and he goes, Joe Rogan? And then like, oh, it's, I'm just looking for drunks. I'm like, okay, well, I'm not drunk.

• 2:41:08Speaker 01

  So he was just gonna try to see if we were.

• 2:41:10Joe Rogan?

  They have a quota. I think they have a quota and I think, like, they have to fucking make arrests and maybe they pull you over and they realize you're not drunk and so they just inconvenience you for five minutes and they'll let you go.

• 2:41:21Speaker 01

  I had one of those.

• 2:41:22Joe Rogan?

  I've had that happen before.

• 2:41:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:41:24Joe Rogan?

  I dropped my phone once when I was on the highway in LA.

• 2:41:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:41:26Joe Rogan?

  And I reached down in between my legs to pick up my phone and I must've like moved to one and all of a sudden, whoop, whoop. I'm like, okay. I had out, I gotta do the whole thing and touch my nose, the whole deal.

• 2:41:36Speaker 01

  This guy accused me of, the cop accused me of trying to ditch him too. He was like, you tried to ditch me. And I was like, what? He goes, you took a right here. And I was like, that's cause I'm going this way. Like, I, I made a right cause I'm, I'm going this way. He's like, where are you going? I was like, I'm going to my mom's house. He was like.

• 2:41:50Joe Rogan?

  Where she live?

• 2:41:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, I was like, up here, then I left and he was like, all right. He's like, I don't know, man, he tried to get away.

• 2:41:56Joe Rogan?

  One time, um, this guy, uh, in a truck didn't see me and totally turned into my lane and I had to go into the, I mean, I was, I was in a Tesla, luckily it was fast, so I avoided it and, and shot back into my lane ahead of him. But it was like, this guy came like inches away from hitting me and I had to go into the opposite lane to pass him and then, I had, but there was no one in the opposite lane.

• 2:42:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:42:19Joe Rogan?

  I did it. And then all of a sudden, the lights come on and he goes. Uh, I saw you pass that guy back there and he goes, uh, you smell like liquor. I go, I have, I've, I'm not, I haven't drank a single drop of alcohol. I do not. He goes, you smell like liquor. I go, no, I don't. And he goes, Joe Rogan? I go, yeah. I go, what are you doing, man? I go, I go, go look at your cam- you have a camera, right? On your car? I go, go look at what happened. And so he looks at it. I go, that guy almost fucking hit me. And he goes, oh, I just saw it. Yeah, he almost hit you. He goes, hey, man, I love UFC. I'm like, okay.

• 2:42:49Speaker 01

  Cool, cool.

• 2:42:50Joe Rogan?

  But like, you didn't, you were pretending I was drunk.

• 2:42:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:42:54Joe Rogan?

  You're pretending you smelled liquor.

• 2:42:56Speaker 01

  Somebody else would have had a real hard time with that.

• 2:42:58Joe Rogan?

  The, I smell liquor was infuriating. I'm like, come on, dude, I'm coming.

• 2:43:02Speaker 01

  So upsetting.

• 2:43:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I think I was coming from like somewhere innocuous, like the gym or something. I was like, what do you, what the fuck is wrong with you?

• 2:43:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:43:10Joe Rogan?

  You're saying you smell liquor? You definitely don't smell liquor. You're just being an asshole.

• 2:43:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:43:14Joe Rogan?

  But they have a quota. They have a fucking quota. It's like, imagine being them, like, hey, Tom, haven't met your quota. What would they, what would they do if no one, if we, we all just said, hey, this quota thing is bullshit. Everybody for the next month, never speed, always use your blinker, stop at every stoplight.

• 2:43:33Speaker 01

  They would come up with something else.

• 2:43:34Joe Rogan?

  What the fuck would they do?

• 2:43:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, they would, they would come up with something. There'd be a new, something would change in the law that would be illegal that people were doing.

• 2:43:40Joe Rogan?

  But if no one's, if so, it's just speeding, let's say speeding, if no one sped for a month, what the fuck would they do?

• 2:43:46Speaker 01

  I mean, they would, they would pinch people for something else. They just absolutely would.

• 2:43:52Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy.

• 2:43:52Speaker 01

  Cause it generates too much revenue.

• 2:43:54Joe Rogan?

  But isn't that crazy?

• 2:43:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:43:55Joe Rogan?

  Think that the cops, the serve and protect, they're supposed to be that.

• 2:43:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:43:59Joe Rogan?

  They're glorified revenue collectors.

• 2:44:01Speaker 01

  When you see these, um, the, these police departments that they investigate for being super corrupt, like the level of corruption in some of them is mind blowing. Like,

• 2:44:11Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 2:44:12Speaker 01

  There was even that chief, the chief that was, and I think it was in Jersey.

• 2:44:16Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:44:16Speaker 01

  That was just like tormenting the entire department.

• 2:44:21Speaker 01

  He'd shave his back on people's desk, fucking stick a hypodermic needle in their leg, put Viagra in the coffee. He was just like fucking with everybody. Yeah, he was like tormenting people.

• 2:44:31Joe Rogan?

  Where was that?

• 2:44:32Speaker 01

  In Jersey. That's definitely, it was a-

• 2:44:34Joe Rogan?

  Stuck a hypodermic needle in someone's leg?

• 2:44:36Speaker 01

  Yeah dude, he was fucking absolutely crazy.

• 2:44:38Joe Rogan?

  Just because he had power.

• 2:44:39Speaker 01

  Uh huh. Yeah, he was going, he was going nuts.

• 2:44:42Joe Rogan?

  And what is it about people that have power over people? Were they just like eight out of 10 times abuse it?

• 2:44:48Speaker 01

  I don't know. That's like, all the dictator stuff I've been reading is like-

• 2:44:51Joe Rogan?

  Why are you reading so much about dictators?

• 2:44:53Speaker 01

  I don't, the stories are just so wild. The Idi Amin thing was just, is so crazy. Again, like, came from extreme poverty, neglected by his father, humiliated by the British, then joins the battalion by the, like, to work with the same people that humiliated him, came to power and then became a complete megalomaniac. I mean, and also you see, one thing you see in all these dictators is such extreme paranoia, because when you operate in a place of wanting to instill fear, you feel fear, you know?

• 2:45:28Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:45:29Speaker 01

  So they're all super paranoid, man.

• 2:45:31Joe Rogan?

  I wonder if Oude was paranoid. Probably not.

• 2:45:35Speaker 01

  That's a good question. I mean-

• 2:45:36Joe Rogan?

  He probably had so much power that he didn't have to be paranoid.

• 2:45:39Speaker 01

  His pops was paranoid, yeah.

• 2:45:40Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 2:45:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:45:41Joe Rogan?

  Probably his own son's gonna kill him.

• 2:45:43Speaker 01

  The Kims, super paranoid, you know?

• 2:45:46Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:45:46Speaker 01

  All of them.

• 2:45:47Joe Rogan?

  Oh, they have to be.

• 2:45:48Speaker 01

  Yeah. Cause you just, you know, you're in such fear and you just instill fear and then you go, someone's- and they're right, because people are turning on them.

• 2:45:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:45:57Speaker 01

  There's all these like attempts on their life.

• 2:45:59Joe Rogan?

  Well-

• 2:46:00Speaker 01

  This is brother Kuse. Yeah.

• 2:46:03Joe Rogan?

  Oh. Hours before the 2003 invasion of Iraq, Kuse withdrew approximately $1 billion.

• 2:46:10Speaker 01

  In cash.

• 2:46:11Joe Rogan?

  In cash?

• 2:46:12Speaker 01

  In hundred, hundred dollar bills.

• 2:46:13Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 2:46:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, right here.

• 2:46:15Joe Rogan?

  900 million in 100 dollar bills, the equivalent of 100 million in euros, loaded them into three tractor trailers and left. So 100 million dollars in euros and 900 million dollars in 100 dollar bills.

• 2:46:28Joe Rogan?

  And loaded in a tractor, considered the largest bank heist in history.

• 2:46:32Speaker 03

  Got there at 4 a.m.

• 2:46:34Joe Rogan?

  How, wait a minute.

• 2:46:35Speaker 01

  Also, it says until 2011.

• 2:46:36Joe Rogan?

  Acting on personal orders from his dad.

• 2:46:38Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:46:38Joe Rogan?

  But is that his money or anybody's money?

• 2:46:40Speaker 03

  It's their money.

• 2:46:41Joe Rogan?

  Whoever's money it is.

• 2:46:42Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:46:42Speaker 01

  But, bro, what's the bank heist in 2011 that surpasses that?

• 2:46:45Joe Rogan?

  I think that's the English one.

• 2:46:47Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 2:46:48Joe Rogan?

  Is that the one?

• 2:46:50Speaker 03

  Says $6 billion in Iraq missing but have been stolen.

• 2:46:54Joe Rogan?

  Oh, was that one? Fuck. But this just makes sense, man. It's like, whenever there's a war, whenever there's chaos, there's a bunch of people that are gonna fucking steal some money.

• 2:47:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:47:06Joe Rogan?

  Iraq wants its money back.

• 2:47:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:47:08Joe Rogan?

  Los Angeles Times, it's, that some of the officials in Baghdad have threatened to take the US government to court to reclaim the missing loot. Good luck. Good luck with that. They'll start bombing you again. They'll find some more weapons of mass destruction.

• 2:47:21Speaker 03

  Paradoxically, it was US taxpayer dollars.

• 2:47:24Joe Rogan?

  Oh, of course. Of course. They should, while they're looking for that, look for the $24 billion that they spent on the homeless in California. This is like, everywhere you look, there's people stealing money in sneaky ways.

• 2:47:38Speaker 01

  Where do you think that the billion that he put into tractors ended up, though? Like, I like how it just ends. He put it into tractors. End of story.

• 2:47:44Joe Rogan?

  Right, where'd it go?

• 2:47:45Speaker 01

  Where did that go?

• 2:47:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:47:47Speaker 01

  Because he was killed shortly thereafter.

• 2:47:48Joe Rogan?

  Right. Where's that money?

• 2:47:50Speaker 01

  It's a lot of fucking money.

• 2:47:51Joe Rogan?

  That's a lot of cash. $12 billion in cash was flown into Iraq in 21 separate C-130 flights in May of 2004.

• 2:48:00Joe Rogan?

  That's why they like going to war. That's why these motherfuckers like going to war. Because for sure, you can get some of that.

• 2:48:06Speaker 01

  You're gonna rain cash, bro.

• 2:48:07Joe Rogan?

  Some of that's yours.

• 2:48:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:48:09Joe Rogan?

  If you and I are running some fucking defense contracting company, like, listen, Tommy, that yacht you got your eye on.

• 2:48:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:48:15Joe Rogan?

  Here it is.

• 2:48:16Speaker 01

  Here it is, bro.

• 2:48:17Joe Rogan?

  Here it is.

• 2:48:17Speaker 01

  Drop a few bombs, let's do it.

• 2:48:19Joe Rogan?

  That's like $100 million. That's a drop in the bucket for this operation.

• 2:48:23Speaker 03

  That's a very similar claim.

• 2:48:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Afghanistan's Taliban displays pallets of cash received for humanitarian aid. Yeah, they just give them cash.

• 2:48:30Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:48:31Joe Rogan?

  They just give them cash.

• 2:48:32Speaker 01

  Why?

• 2:48:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, look at that, bricks of it. Look at what it looks like.

• 2:48:35Speaker 03

  $40 million in cash.

• 2:48:36Joe Rogan?

  Oh, nothing.

• 2:48:36Speaker 03

  There you go.

• 2:48:37Speaker 01

  Jesus.

• 2:48:38Joe Rogan?

  So, don't, this is what Tim Burchette was saying, that we give them that every month?

• 2:48:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, this is why I found that, this article, this one here.

• 2:48:44Speaker 01

  Look at that packaging, bro.

• 2:48:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, we send that to them every month. American tax dollars.

• 2:48:50Speaker 01

  And then we go, do the right thing.

• 2:48:51Joe Rogan?

  And then we're like, we don't have any money to fix the streets. We don't have any money to pay teachers, but we have forty million a month for the Taliban.

• 2:49:01Speaker 01

  I wish you would talk to whoever's in charge of infrastructure in this city to fix some of these streets.

• 2:49:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they're not gonna listen to me.

• 2:49:07Speaker 01

  There's so many fucking potholes.

• 2:49:08Joe Rogan?

  Lot of potholes, dude.

• 2:49:09Speaker 01

  And just destroyed, even in residential areas. You know, the street is fucked up, man.

• 2:49:14Joe Rogan?

  I know, I wonder why they don't fix that.

• 2:49:15Speaker 01

  I don't know either.

• 2:49:16Joe Rogan?

  Uh, it's not like it's not money around here.

• 2:49:19Speaker 01

  No shit.

• 2:49:19Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Well, maybe get Spencer Pratt if he loses in LA to run for mayor of Austin.

• 2:49:24Speaker 01

  Come to Austin, bro. We could use you.

• 2:49:28Joe Rogan?

  Has he got a chance in LA? What do you think?

• 2:49:31Speaker 01

  I think anyone's got a chance. I think, I think if you put together a campaign that gets some excitement, people talking, you have a chance in LA. I really do. Like, that city, the people there are-

• 2:49:41Joe Rogan?

  They're desperate.

• 2:49:41Speaker 01

  They're desperate, and also, they live for entertainment. So, entertain them a little.

• 2:49:45Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:49:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:49:46Joe Rogan?

  He's entertaining.

• 2:49:47Speaker 01

  He's entertaining as shit.

• 2:49:48Joe Rogan?

  You see, one of the things he's doing, he's putting a stencil down on the streets and power washing Spencer Pratt for mayor into the dirty streets.

• 2:49:56Speaker 01

  No, is he really?

• 2:49:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, so he's-

• 2:49:57Speaker 01

  Clever.

• 2:49:58Joe Rogan?

  Putting it on the sidewalk, and the sidewalks are so disgusting, that if you put the stencil down and power wash it-

• 2:50:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:50:04Joe Rogan?

  You could see it clearly.

• 2:50:06Speaker 01

  I mean, I, if you think that that guy doesn't have a chance, I would remind you that our president is a reality show fucking host. You know?

• 2:50:13Joe Rogan?

  I, I think he's good. I think his ideas are good. I think Spencer, I've had him in here. He's got some good ideas.

• 2:50:19Speaker 01

  I mean-

• 2:50:20Joe Rogan?

  He, he definitely wants to stop all this fucking camps.

• 2:50:22Speaker 01

  Who's he, he's running against the incumbent, or who, how many people is he running against?

• 2:50:25Joe Rogan?

  The incumbent and another woman. You know, but he's running as a Republican, which is the problem. I don't know, I don't, probably not well.

• 2:50:32Speaker 03

  According to Kalshi, the trading market, he's in second place.

• 2:50:37Joe Rogan?

  Behind her?

• 2:50:37Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:50:38Joe Rogan?

  Behind Karen Bass?

• 2:50:38Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:50:39Joe Rogan?

  Imagine that. She burned down the entire Pacific Palisades by not having any water in the fucking hydrants, not having any water in the reservoirs, and they're like, yeah, but, let's give her another chance.

• 2:50:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:50:48Joe Rogan?

  She was busy. She didn't have time to save all those houses. Aren't you glad you sold your house before it burnt to a crisp?

• 2:50:55Speaker 01

  It's really crazy. I did a fundraiser show a couple of weeks ago in Altadena.

• 2:51:01Joe Rogan?

  Altadena is even a worse situation because those people don't have any money.

• 2:51:04Speaker 01

  I know.

• 2:51:05Joe Rogan?

  A lot of them working class families, lost everything.

• 2:51:07Speaker 01

  I saw, I haven't been to my old street, but I saw a video. It's, it just looks like a...

• 2:51:12Joe Rogan?

  Like a bomb?

• 2:51:12Speaker 01

  Like a bomb went off, yeah. It was really crazy.

• 2:51:15Joe Rogan?

  I'm glad we moved, dude.

• 2:51:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:51:17Joe Rogan?

  I'm glad, I'm really glad you didn't lose your house.

• 2:51:20Speaker 01

  Me too, man. That would have just been, oh, I feel, I really do feel for the people that did. It's fucking horrific.

• 2:51:26Joe Rogan?

  I know quite a few.

• 2:51:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, I do, I do too.

• 2:51:28Joe Rogan?

  One, my good friend Matt, he lost his place.

• 2:51:30Speaker 01

  It's really sad.

• 2:51:31Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Anyway, dude, your show's awesome.

• 2:51:33Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 2:51:34Joe Rogan?

  It's on Netflix right now.

• 2:51:35Speaker 01

  It's on Netflix, season two.

• 2:51:35Joe Rogan?

  It's really, really fucking funny.

• 2:51:36Speaker 01

  Thanks so much, man.

• 2:51:37Joe Rogan?

  It's fucking just so preposterous and so irreverent and, and again, shout out to Netflix for having the... ...cojones.

• 2:51:45Speaker 01

  Yes. Thank you Netflix.

• 2:51:46Joe Rogan?

  Thank you.

• 2:51:47Speaker 01

  Thank you so much for the opportunity.

• 2:51:48Joe Rogan?

  For having the balls to do that show.

• 2:51:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:51:49Joe Rogan?

  All right, go watch it. I love you, buddy.

• 2:51:51Speaker 01

  Love you too, thanks.

• 2:51:52Joe Rogan?

  Thank you very much. Bye, everybody.

• 2:51:53Speaker 01

  See you.