Olivia Wilde

We’re so excited to welcome the brilliant Olivia Wilde to the table this week! Olivia joined us on a whirlwind world tour to promo her new film, The Invite, which she both directed and stars in alongside Seth Rogen, Penelope Cruz and Edward Norton. Over a cheeseboard & jamón (iykyk), plus mum’s homemade apricot ice cream, we heard about Olivia growing up with journalist parents and their lively dinner parties, training to cook at Ballymaloe in Ireland, why she loves eating alone in restaurants, filming The Invite in sequence like a play and the unforgettable moment Penélope Cruz surprised her with an improvised kiss. Plus we hear the hilarious reason she grew up believing you had to stay completely silent around a soufflé! Thank you for such a lovely afternoon, Olivia - and huge congratulations on The Invite which is in cinemas now! Listen & watch Table Manners here - https://tablemanners.komi.io/ Follow Table Manners on: Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/tablemannerspodcast/ TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@tablemannerspodcast Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/tablemannerspodcast YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@TableMannersPodcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy https://acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:20Jessie Ware?

  Hello and welcome to Table manners. I'm Jessie Ware and I'm a bit hungover if I'm being honest.

• 0:26Speaker 02

  Good for you. I was being very abstemious because I felt if I didn't concentrate, England might have lost.

• 0:33Jessie Ware?

  Oh, okay.

• 0:34Speaker 02

  But I did have a large gin and tonic after half die.

• 0:37Jessie Ware?

  Well, Sam says it's so funny, Jessie, because you really should be able to put it away like your mother.

• 0:44Speaker 02

  That's so rude.

• 0:46Jessie Ware?

  You are a very lightweight drinker.

• 0:47Speaker 02

  I know. It's not fun. How many glasses of wine was there?

• 0:50Jessie Ware?

  Do you drink spirits? I give them a shout out. I went to the Victory on Lordship Lane in East Dulwich, if anyone's from South East London. It was the old Franklin's and it's now called the Victory. And it's this really great guy, Jamie Younger, who is involved with the Begging Bowl, Sommsar, Collet. Anyway, the Victory was delicious and he did encourage us all to have a martini. There was one called Nelson's Blood. I know. I didn't go for that one, but it was delicious. I had a Gibson and I think that's what maybe did it. But then also potentially having dessert wine on a Wednesday.

• 1:25Speaker 02

  Why were you drinking so much midweek?

• 1:28Jessie Ware?

  England had won.

• 1:29Speaker 02

  No, that was not the reason.

• 1:30Jessie Ware?

  It was a balmy night.

• 1:31Speaker 02

  You were going to drink anyway, Jessie.

• 1:33Jessie Ware?

  I'm not.

• 1:34Speaker 02

  Nothing to do with England, darling.

• 1:35Jessie Ware?

  Anyway, Sam said, I'm surprised you can't do it. You don't have the same genes as your mother. And I don't. And so I'm feeling a little ropey. And I think I may have to have a drink just to get through this hangover. Anyway, how are you?

• 1:48Speaker 02

  I'm okay.

• 1:49Jessie Ware?

  Okay, great.

• 1:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, fine.

• 1:52Jessie Ware?

  We've got a guest coming on today, which is Olivia Wilde, who we're so excited to have. But she's coming at quite a kind of odd time to cook. So it's a really hot day. She's coming at three. Well, she's not coming at three because.

• 2:07Speaker 02

  She's not here.

• 2:08Jessie Ware?

  She's not here. But I think she's been in a junket. So she's on her way.

• 2:14Jessie Ware?

  So we're probably going to be eating around four, four thirty maybe. So it's a kind of odd time to eat. So I picky bit.

• 2:22Speaker 02

  Picky bits.

• 2:23Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, picky tea.

• 2:24Speaker 02

  Do you think it's the British that are fonder of picky bits than anybody else in the universe?

• 2:29Jessie Ware?

  Everyone likes picky bits.

• 2:30Speaker 02

  We are a picky bit nation, I think.

• 2:32Jessie Ware?

  I've made, actually it was your recommendation, it's a Nigel Slater loaf. It's got sun dried tomato in it, basil, thyme, feta, parmesan and kefir and like self raising flour.

• 2:46Speaker 02

  Is it nice?

• 2:46Jessie Ware?

  It's kind of like a cake, a savoury cake. I don't know if it's nice, I haven't cut through it, but I hope it is. So I'm doing that with some jamon because that's a nod to the new film that Olivia is coming on to talk to us about. Um, The Invite. So I've got lots of cured meats and I've got a cheese board. And.

• 3:04Speaker 02

  Delicious.

• 3:05Jessie Ware?

  Nice.

• 3:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:06Jessie Ware?

  Cause I'm sure she has dinner plans.

• 3:08Speaker 02

  I'm sure.

• 3:08Jessie Ware?

  And then what have you made for Pudd?

• 3:10Speaker 02

  I've made apricot ice cream.

• 3:11Jessie Ware?

  Yum.

• 3:12Speaker 02

  I've got a friend, Pepe.

• 3:14Jessie Ware?

  Mm.

• 3:14Speaker 02

  She's your friend Carla's mum.

• 3:16Jessie Ware?

  Mm.

• 3:16Speaker 02

  Who says she can't cook, but she always has these clever little recipes. She made delicious apricot and amaretto ice cream.

• 3:23Jessie Ware?

  Yum.

• 3:24Speaker 02

  Which is just basically a jar of really good apricot preserve.

• 3:30Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 3:30Speaker 02

  With three hundred mils of cream whipped up and just mix it all together with some amaretto biscuit crumbs. I promise you it's delicious.

• 3:39Jessie Ware?

  But isn't it.

• 3:39Speaker 02

  Don't forget to take it out.

• 3:40Jessie Ware?

  So it's no churn?

• 3:42Speaker 02

  No churn.

• 3:43Jessie Ware?

  Will it like move well enough?

• 3:44Speaker 02

  Well, if we get it out in time, it will. So when she arrives, we'll take it out.

• 3:50Jessie Ware?

  Fab.

• 3:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:51Jessie Ware?

  So Olivia Wilde is coming on to talk about her new fantastic film.

• 3:56Speaker 02

  Wonderful.

• 3:56Jessie Ware?

  That she's directed and starred in. It's called The Invite. It stars Olivia, Seth Rogen, Penelope Cruz and Edward Norton. And it was.

• 4:05Speaker 02

  You call him Edward.

• 4:06Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, apparently.

• 4:07Speaker 02

  Call him Ed.

• 4:07Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, apparently he doesn't like being called Ed.

• 4:09Speaker 02

  Oh, it is the most wonderful cast.

• 4:11Jessie Ware?

  It's such a fantastic cast.

• 4:13Speaker 02

  And it's such a great film. Huge accolade.

• 4:16Jessie Ware?

  Is unreal.

• 4:17Speaker 02

  The script, huge accolades already. It's going to win all the awards.

• 4:21Jessie Ware?

  You think?

• 4:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, there's lots of.

• 4:23Jessie Ware?

  Isn't it a funny time to bring out a film that you wanna, I don't know if she was going for it, but usually the films in the summer aren't the ones that are going for the Oscars.

• 4:31Speaker 02

  They've always gone for the festivals. They've already been at the festivals.

• 4:34Jessie Ware?

  Um, anyway, it's a fantastic film. It is, I think, one of my favourite films I've seen in so long.

• 4:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:41Jessie Ware?

  Just sharp, funny.

• 4:44Speaker 02

  Clever.

• 4:44Jessie Ware?

  Heartbreaking, just, it's all of it.

• 4:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:47Jessie Ware?

  Um, so yeah, Olivia's coming on to talk about this. We feel very excited to have her. Olivia Wilde coming up on Table manners.

• 5:03Jessie Ware?

  Olivia Wilde.

• 5:04Speaker 03

  Hi.

• 5:04Jessie Ware?

  Thank you for being here.

• 5:05Speaker 03

  So sweet of you to drum.

• 5:07Speaker 02

  This is the best.

• 5:08Jessie Ware?

  Well, to, to, to start and to celebrate, my husband Sam has made a, a select spritz. I do think, no, hon, I'm just gonna check it.

• 5:18Speaker 02

  That'll do big.

• 5:19Jessie Ware?

  Right.

• 5:19Speaker 03

  That'll do big.

• 5:20Jessie Ware?

  Cheers.

• 5:21Speaker 02

  Cheers.

• 5:21Jessie Ware?

  Cheers.

• 5:22Speaker 02

  To the success of the invite.

• 5:24Jessie Ware?

  It's unbelievable.

• 5:26Speaker 02

  I don't think you need much help.

• 5:28Jessie Ware?

  Oh.

• 5:28Speaker 02

  It's wonderful.

• 5:29Jessie Ware?

  It's so kind.

• 5:30Speaker 02

  Truly wonderful.

• 5:31Jessie Ware?

  It's perfect. It's perfect.

• 5:35Speaker 03

  So is it.

• 5:36Jessie Ware?

  Yes, isn't it good?

• 5:37Speaker 03

  That's really good.

• 5:38Speaker 02

  So nice.

• 5:39Speaker 03

  Yum.

• 5:40Jessie Ware?

  What do you think, what did your publicist think? Hold on, watch. Delicious. Yes.

• 5:43Speaker 03

  I praise.

• 5:44Speaker 02

  Delicious.

• 5:44Jessie Ware?

  So this is, I, I have to admit, I'm slightly hungover, so I think this is just gonna sort me out.

• 5:49Speaker 03

  Hair of the dog.

• 5:49Jessie Ware?

  Um, how are you today?

• 5:52Speaker 03

  I'm so good. I feel so relieved.

• 5:56Jessie Ware?

  Really?

• 5:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 5:57Jessie Ware?

  Why so relieved?

• 5:58Speaker 02

  Premier last night.

• 5:59Speaker 03

  Because, right, releasing a movie is always a nightmare because you just, this is the part you have no control over.

• 6:06Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 6:07Speaker 03

  It belongs to the audience now. Critics can be vicious, people can be bored, things, people are busy, it's hard to get people into theatres. But we have been so lucky with this so far, where the kind of chemical equation of film plus audience leads to something that is its own thing, and so far it's been really lovely. And people have been having fun and we've been hearing people laughing in the theatre and there's nothing better than that.

• 6:36Jessie Ware?

  Didn't you do a couple's screening?

• 6:40Speaker 03

  We've done so many different types of screenings. We've had many, many, many couples in to see the film.

• 6:46Jessie Ware?

  I didn't watch it with my husband, however, I told him about it.

• 6:50Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 6:50Jessie Ware?

  And I told him about the premise and.

• 6:55Jessie Ware?

  He loved the idea and then he said, and then, and then he said,

• 7:00Speaker 03

  I can imagine us doing that in a few years, babe.

• 7:02Jessie Ware?

  And I said, yes, I can't actually.

• 7:06Speaker 03

  Well.

• 7:06Jessie Ware?

  Maybe he's got some like, he's got room for you and he thinks we're all going upstairs. Um, but it was so funny because I guess this, it does provoke conversations with couples.

• 7:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 7:18Jessie Ware?

  Do you want to explain to people without maybe giving it away?

• 7:20Speaker 03

  Yeah. Okay. So essentially it's about, on the surface, what seems like an unhappy couple and a happy couple colliding for one night to have a dinner party that goes kind of off the rails and leads to unforeseen conclusions for everyone. What it really is, is a story about relationships that tries to figure out why they work or why they're not working. And if it potentially has something to do with how little we communicate, particularly about sex. And it's based on a great Spanish film called The People Upstairs.

• 7:56Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 7:56Speaker 03

  That was itself based on a play by the same writer director.

• 7:59Jessie Ware?

  I read all about it.

• 8:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 8:01Jessie Ware?

  It, it felt to me like I was watching, I can so imagine it on the stage.

• 8:05Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 8:05Jessie Ware?

  Me, me too.

• 8:06Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 8:06Jessie Ware?

  Yeah. We think you should definitely come, the same cast and do it on the stage as well. Would you be tempted to do something like that?

• 8:13Speaker 03

  I, cause I love kind of like Noel Coward, Comedy of Errors, like to do something like this on stage. It would be really interesting to think of what would need to change about it. I think it would have to be adapted again.

• 8:25Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 8:25Speaker 03

  Because we did so much work to adapt this version to something that would work with this cast, with the energy we wanted from the film. And it was truly the most fun I've ever had, even though it was the hardest I've ever worked.

• 8:39Jessie Ware?

  Because I mean, you're not only starring in it, you're the director. So how?

• 8:42Speaker 03

  Insane, an insane thing to do, truly unhinged.

• 8:45Jessie Ware?

  But you're good at it. Well, I think, yeah.

• 8:48Speaker 03

  I didn't want to star in it. I didn't want to be in it and

• 8:53Jessie Ware?

  Why not?

• 8:54Speaker 03

  Because I just wanted to nail the direction.

• 8:56Jessie Ware?

  So who would have been you?

• 8:58Speaker 03

  I had so many good ideas.

• 8:59Jessie Ware?

  Okay, come on, who are the ideas?

• 9:00Speaker 03

  I got all these, I mean, everyone, all the brilliant actresses that I, I love. And the cast, Edward and Seth and Penelope kept saying, maybe, maybe, yeah, I could see it. But and I was like, what's wrong? Why won't you guys? These are all great ideas. And they were like, because we think you should do it. And I, I was so struck because I just, it hadn't occurred to me.

• 9:25Jessie Ware?

  Really? Wow.

• 9:27Speaker 03

  I weirdly had like, I think imposter syndrome about acting in it, but for some reason not about directing. I don't know. I think at this point I feel like a much better director than actor.

• 9:41Jessie Ware?

  I think you did a great job.

• 9:42Speaker 03

  But now.

• 9:43Jessie Ware?

  I think it was the most perfect cast.

• 9:45Speaker 03

  Oh, well, then, then it, then it felt like so meant to be. But I, I've never felt that good acting before. So I was so happy I ended up jumping in. I was so terrified, but we were, they were so supportive. I mean, it couldn't have been a tighter group.

• 10:01Jessie Ware?

  It is a masterclass in like, all of it, acting, reacting, or I mean, it's the, and also shout out, it's Rashida Jones and who's the other?

• 10:11Speaker 03

  Will McCormick.

• 10:12Jessie Ware?

  I mean, the script is great.

• 10:14Speaker 03

  It's great.

• 10:15Jessie Ware?

  I mean, you've got like heavyweights delivering those lines, including yourself. But it is just punchy, kind of unforgiving, beautiful, heartbreaking, all of it. But I mean, is Penelope Cruz the sexiest woman alive?

• 10:31Speaker 03

  There's a moment in the film where she improvised a kiss with me.

• 10:36Jessie Ware?

  Hmm. How many times did you have to reshoot that one, Olivia?

• 10:39Speaker 03

  Oh, film, film hair in the gate, do it again. No, I, I, I was so shocked when she did it. Then I actually turned my head and looked directly into the lens and then through my camera operator, who, he was like, Olivia. And I, I said, I said, namaste. For some reason, that's the only thing that came to my mind. Namaste. And everyone was like. What? And I was like, I don't know. My mind went blank. My mind went blank as I was so struck by this moment. I was like, what? I lost control. I was so madly in love with her.

• 11:14Speaker 02

  But it was a lot about control, wasn't it? I mean, you're very buttoned up. You wear a collar and your hair's in a plait and you look kind of straight and buttoned up.

• 11:24Speaker 03

  Oh, and just riddled with anxiety.

• 11:26Speaker 02

  But she's also talking about control.

• 11:29Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 11:29Speaker 02

  And being in control and what she enjoys is the control she has over her life and her sex life.

• 11:36Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 11:37Speaker 02

  And I was very struck by that. And when she turns on Edward Norton, I forgot what his name is in the.

• 11:43Speaker 03

  Hawk.

• 11:44Speaker 02

  Hawk, of course. His name's Howard, isn't it?

• 11:47Speaker 03

  Howie.

• 11:48Speaker 02

  Howie. But when she turns on him because he corrects her English and I just thought, oh, wow. So many times you want to correct, when people correct you for doing things. And men do it more to women, I think, than women would ever do it to men.

• 12:03Speaker 03

  And that came from a very deep place within Penelope.

• 12:06Speaker 02

  I'm sure it did.

• 12:07Speaker 03

  And she, you know, she was not only improvising along with us, she's doing it in her second language. And she oftentimes points out that, you know, she's like, look, I'm, I'm live translating everything you guys are saying. And she's very, very smart. And so she, she speaks probably several more languages, but she has dealt with people correcting her in her life. And I love that moment. She, she has this moment where he corrects her and he says, she's saying, and she just turns and she goes, she's saying what? And I would like, I felt like every woman, the feeling of like, you tell me, tell me what I'm saying.

• 12:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, mansplaining.

• 12:50Speaker 03

  Exactly. And I, you know, the, the cool thing about this movie is we shot it like a play. We shot it in order.

• 12:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:57Speaker 03

  And because of that. There was such organic kind of um development of character that led people to these different places and she knew at that point that she would be just at the brink of losing it over being corrected that many times.

• 13:13Jessie Ware?

  Was that your choice to shoot it like that?

• 13:16Speaker 03

  Yes, that was the dream.

• 13:17Jessie Ware?

  Is that quite unusual to be allowed to do that then?

• 13:20Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 13:21Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 13:21Speaker 03

  Well, it's usually impossible because you're moving around to different locations. So it's logistically a nightmare and actor availability, all of the reasons. But it had always been my fantasy because since I started acting, I was like, this is really hard doing this out of order because I trained in theater and then I was like, movies are hard mostly because we are jumping around thinking like, how will I feel now?

• 13:45Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 13:45Speaker 03

  If I imagine I've already done that and it's like a Rubik's Cube. And so I thought, if I get to direct, I would like to shoot something in order. And it's usually too complicated. This time, when I read Rashida and Will's brilliant script, I thought, this is an opportunity because it's one location to do the thing I've always wanted to do, make it like a play, rehearse, which we never get to do.

• 14:08Jessie Ware?

  Hmm.

• 14:09Speaker 03

  And then shoot in order and workshop the script with the cast and the writers and make it feel very specific to everyone's ideas and and instincts.

• 14:20Jessie Ware?

  I'm so in awe of all of you and that, yeah, the performances are.

• 14:23Speaker 03

  They are so good. I mean, they are so funny, like I I was the one trying not to break the whole time, which is very unprofessional as the director. I was just constantly like, like every time Edward would speak Spanish, it really made me laugh. And then Seth is just constantly making.

• 14:41Jessie Ware?

  Is he good fun?

• 14:42Speaker 03

  He's the best.

• 14:43Jessie Ware?

  Yeah. But you also had a really good time on the studio together.

• 14:46Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 14:46Jessie Ware?

  That is, I mean, that story was fantastic, too.

• 14:50Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 14:50Jessie Ware?

  Had you already done the invite by that point?

• 14:52Speaker 03

  No, we we, he asked me to come on the studio and I thought, what a brilliant idea that you're kind of sending up this ridiculous industry, but doing it with a lot of love for movies.

• 15:05Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 15:05Speaker 03

  And I love Seth and I said, absolutely, I'll do it. And I also loved the opportunity to make fun of myself, like what a gift, what a gift to be able to go on and just make fun of yourself and everything. And then. When I was opposite him acting in the scene, it occurred to me, he has to play Joe in The Invite. He he has to. In fact, there's no one else. And I refuse to accept anything but this. And I wasn't supposed to, obviously, at that point be in The Invite, but I knew he was Joe and I could suddenly see the movie around Seth. And so I begged him to come and do it. And he was very gracious. He was, he was very supportive from the beginning.

• 15:45Speaker 03

  I I will say, he and Edward are two real, like, male allies in Hollywood, which is rare still. Someone, I think there's a lot of great men working and they're generally just wonderful and they they they work for women, they work for men, they're they're great. But the the thing that separates these two, I think, is that they go out of their way to really stand up for the women they work with and to fight for their voices to be taken seriously. And and I I saw it to such an extent that I really understood how rare and how special it was.

• 16:24Jessie Ware?

  I mean, I I I guess it can't always be as perfect as this.

• 16:27Speaker 03

  No, I have to retire. I'm done. I really feel that way.

• 16:30Speaker 02

  Because you'll never be able to top it.

• 16:32Jessie Ware?

  Well, we should talk about food a little bit, but we can keep on talking about The Invite.

• 16:35Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 16:36Jessie Ware?

  Um, because I want to.

• 16:37Speaker 02

  And cheese souffle.

• 16:38Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 16:38Speaker 02

  Have you got the recipe for that?

• 16:40Speaker 03

  I, it's so funny because the joy of cooking is open in the opening credits because that was me trying to figure out what she would actually need for a souffle, which I picked because I thought that's the most risky thing in my non-chef mind. That would seems like a risky thing for a for a party if you are not a a very good cook.

• 16:59Jessie Ware?

  And you've never met the people and you're quite stressed.

• 17:01Speaker 03

  And you're very stressed.

• 17:02Speaker 02

  So, so risky.

• 17:03Jessie Ware?

  I've never done a souffle.

• 17:04Speaker 03

  And she ruins it immediately, like within moments, within moments of the movie beginning, it's ruined.

• 17:09Jessie Ware?

  Um, but let's talk about you, growing up in DC.

• 17:12Speaker 03

  Yes, first in New York.

• 17:13Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, how long until?

• 17:15Speaker 03

  Five.

• 17:15Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 17:16Speaker 03

  Moved to DC at five and then in Georgetown.

• 17:19Speaker 02

  Why DC? Because your father was working there or your mother?

• 17:22Speaker 03

  Both my parents are journalists. And, you know, they they kind of worked all around the world. World, so they could probably been anywhere, but I think DC was a probably more affordable than New York. And a good place for kids. It's a very green city.

• 17:41Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 17:41Speaker 03

  And I think actually reminded them of London. They met in London and they, I think there's, there's a kinship between those two cities.

• 17:49Jessie Ware?

  So who was around the dinner table and what were you eating?

• 17:51Speaker 03

  Okay, my parents had dinner parties all the time.

• 17:57Jessie Ware?

  So did mom.

• 17:58Speaker 03

  And I think about it now because I'm not very good at hosting dinner parties and I think I'm robbing my children of the experience that I was given. And I have to correct it because I loved the, the constant kind of murmur of people coming for dinner, sitting around the big long table like this. And my mom would make salmon. She had her thing. It was, she would do a salmon and potatoes and a salad.

• 18:24Jessie Ware?

  And it was good. She executed it brilliantly.

• 18:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, and it was like, that was it. She nailed it. My dad would do a lot of cooking on, on kind of other nights, like just for us all the time. And it was like shepherd's pie, roast chicken. Um, he's Irish, so it was also like boiled bacon and cabbage. Which having like American kids over for dinner and they're like, I'm sorry, what are we eating? What is this? And it's like, this is a very, very salty dish. It's very good. We love it. And they're like, what is this strange dish?

• 18:55Jessie Ware?

  Have you tried it on your kids?

• 18:57Speaker 03

  No, my kids have this really honestly pathetic palate.

• 19:01Jessie Ware?

  Oh, mate. They, I think ours is similar age.

• 19:03Speaker 03

  If it isn't beige, they don't want it.

• 19:05Jessie Ware?

  It's so irritating.

• 19:06Speaker 03

  I know. I'm like, oh, come on.

• 19:08Jessie Ware?

  Daughter is something like that. Daughter's good. She's not nearly ten and she's decent.

• 19:12Speaker 02

  She'll eat mussels.

• 19:13Jessie Ware?

  But the, yeah, no, no, she's all right. The boys are crap.

• 19:16Speaker 03

  Do you know, I, I just took, so my kids are nine and 12. And I just took Otis, who's 12, to Tokyo for a week. We went together as a just kind of trip together, which was a dream. And I was shocked because we went and took a sushi making lesson and he ate the sushi.

• 19:33Speaker 02

  And did he like it?

• 19:34Speaker 03

  I don't think so, but I have never been more shocked in my life than seeing that child pick up sashimi and a big piece of sushi and eat it. I was like, what, what? I mean, I I couldn't believe it. And it was because he typically eats pizza with no sauce.

• 19:53Jessie Ware?

  I.

• 19:53Speaker 03

  That's what he wants. And he'll eat like a lot of salami.

• 19:57Jessie Ware?

  So he likes a pizza pizza pizza dough.

• 20:00Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 20:00Jessie Ware?

  But what's he have on it?

• 20:01Speaker 03

  But he won't eat pasta. He won't eat bread.

• 20:04Jessie Ware?

  Oh, Christ.

• 20:04Speaker 03

  He just wants.

• 20:05Jessie Ware?

  But he eats sashimi.

• 20:06Speaker 03

  He'll that one time and one time only.

• 20:08Jessie Ware?

  Where are you gonna take him next?

• 20:09Speaker 03

  I don't know.

• 20:10Jessie Ware?

  Italy?

• 20:10Speaker 03

  I would.

• 20:11Jessie Ware?

  For a bit of sauce, maybe?

• 20:12Speaker 03

  It's so funny because my daughter is nine. She has she loves pasta. She's like me. She wants like a nice big Italian meal, but it is still limited to to shades of beige.

• 20:23Jessie Ware?

  Are they with you on this trip?

• 20:24Speaker 03

  They're not on this trip, but they will come soon because I'll be in London for a while. And they it's funny because them for them like cuisine in England, they're like, mm, Nando's.

• 20:37Jessie Ware?

  Oh, they're like Nando's.

• 20:39Speaker 03

  It's just want chicken.

• 20:41Jessie Ware?

  I mean, that's Nando's is great.

• 20:43Speaker 03

  It's great.

• 20:43Jessie Ware?

  Do they not have Nando's in this state? Don't they have it in DC?

• 20:47Speaker 03

  Oh, really?

• 20:47Jessie Ware?

  I swear it's the only place in America. I swear.

• 20:50Speaker 03

  It's possible because such an international city. I mean, I left there at thirteen, so I don't.

• 20:54Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 20:54Speaker 03

  I want to know.

• 20:55Jessie Ware?

  Where did you go next then?

• 20:57Speaker 03

  I went to boarding school.

• 20:58Jessie Ware?

  Where?

• 20:59Speaker 03

  In Massachusetts, right outside Boston. And I went there for four years and then I moved to LA.

• 21:04Jessie Ware?

  Did you enjoy it?

• 21:06Speaker 03

  I did. It was very weird for me because I was such a city kid. Like, I really enjoyed my kind of city haunts. And that was why they were like, you're you're going to boarding school.

• 21:16Jessie Ware?

  Right. What were you were you naughty?

• 21:18Speaker 03

  I was. I thought it was naughty. Now I look back and I'm like, it was very tame. It was very tame. I just didn't really understand kind of curfews, rules, boundaries. It was probably going to get worse.

• 21:32Jessie Ware?

  So they they said you're going to boarding school.

• 21:34Speaker 03

  They're like, you're going. And I'm glad I went because it had this extraordinary theater program and I just did like twelve plays a year.

• 21:41Jessie Ware?

  Wow.

• 21:41Speaker 03

  Acting, yeah, acting. And and it was a great school and I was really lucky to be there. But boarding school is is, I mean, I guess it's more normal here.

• 21:49Jessie Ware?

  For the posh people, yes.

• 21:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, it's a posh thing. It's a posh thing. And this was definitely a posh school. It's it's very preppy and sporty.

• 21:56Jessie Ware?

  Did you go to university after that?

• 21:58Speaker 03

  No, I I got into school and then I.

• 22:03Speaker 03

  I said, I'll, I'll, I'll take a year off and it's still, it's been like 23 years.

• 22:07Speaker 02

  Okay. Before, yeah.

• 22:09Speaker 03

  I would love to go now. I think college is wasted on the young.

• 22:12Speaker 02

  I agree.

• 22:13Speaker 03

  I would love to go now. Imagine just sitting around. At the time, I thought I'd study theater. Now I don't think so. Now I'd like to study like neuroscience.

• 22:23Speaker 02

  Oh, wow.

• 22:23Speaker 03

  But you'd have to probably learn a lot of math, which wouldn't be possible for me because I've never been able to.

• 22:28Speaker 02

  I can't do that.

• 22:29Speaker 03

  I can't either.

• 22:30Speaker 02

  You can.

• 22:32Jessie Ware?

  I don't understand what they're talking about.

• 22:34Speaker 03

  The same. It's like it's ancient Greek.

• 22:36Speaker 02

  And your children have to do it and I cannot help them.

• 22:39Speaker 03

  The amount of times I've.

• 22:40Speaker 02

  The arguments.

• 22:41Speaker 03

  The arguments. I've been correcting homework, being like, now that's not. That's okay. That can't be right. And then looking on my phone, pretending to be thinking, being like, let me just think about this very basic, easy equation. And then my son has the kind of brain where he can just see.

• 22:57Speaker 02

  Oh, wow.

• 22:58Speaker 03

  He sees it and he knows the answer. He just has that.

• 23:00Speaker 02

  Wait till you do physics.

• 23:01Speaker 03

  Nope.

• 23:01Speaker 02

  That's gonna be a challenge.

• 23:04Speaker 03

  It won't happen.

• 23:05Jessie Ware?

  You kind of went to the school of house though, didn't you?

• 23:07Speaker 03

  Yes, I got to pretend to be a doctor.

• 23:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, I always impressed because I thought you were so clever.

• 23:12Speaker 03

  Yeah, no, it was all fake because I got to learn the lines.

• 23:15Speaker 02

  No, but I thought she was a neuroscientist.

• 23:17Speaker 03

  Oh, right. Yeah, well. That was the inspiration.

• 23:18Speaker 02

  Was he a good friend to work with?

• 23:20Speaker 03

  He's so fun.

• 23:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, he's so attractive. I hate to say this.

• 23:24Jessie Ware?

  I just hate to say it. Hugh Laurie is a dashing man.

• 23:26Speaker 02

  I don't want to objectify him, but I think he's gorgeous.

• 23:29Speaker 03

  We also love his brains, but let's be honest.

• 23:32Speaker 02

  He's bright and funny and clever. Yeah.

• 23:34Speaker 03

  He's not only a brilliant actor, but he's a musician. He's a novelist.

• 23:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:38Speaker 03

  He like rides a motorcycle.

• 23:40Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 23:40Speaker 03

  He's cool.

• 23:41Speaker 02

  Of course he does.

• 23:42Jessie Ware?

  That's a bit of you.

• 23:42Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 23:43Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 23:43Speaker 03

  I aspire.

• 23:44Speaker 02

  He was always so rude to you in house.

• 23:46Speaker 03

  I know. And, and yet couldn't have been more gentle and, and sweet. And I loved it. I loved being on that show. It was so much fun because I grew up watching ER. I was obsessed with ER.

• 23:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, me too.

• 23:59Jessie Ware?

  Okay, well, should I get some food on the thing?

• 24:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, please.

• 24:01Jessie Ware?

  Do you still like? Why have I had all of mine?

• 24:04Speaker 02

  You need another one. Yeah, she needs another.

• 24:05Jessie Ware?

  Because you've been working hard and you needed to lubricate the vocal cords first.

• 24:08Speaker 02

  Jessie, what's in the middle?

• 24:09Jessie Ware?

  It's a little notch, a little olive. And.

• 24:14Speaker 02

  Jessie, she needs another one, darling.

• 24:15Jessie Ware?

  Would you like another one?

• 24:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, of course she would. I would too.

• 24:18Speaker 03

  Eat my olive first.

• 24:19Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, it's just, yeah, and I'll, we plan a sh- okay. I have, what we are having.

• 24:24Speaker 03

  Is picky bits.

• 24:24Jessie Ware?

  Is picky bits because I didn't know whether you had dinner plans and all of that. So it's like, but I did put a bit of hamon in there because I felt like it was only right.

• 24:32Speaker 03

  We must have hamon.

• 24:33Jessie Ware?

  And it is hamon.

• 24:34Speaker 03

  Real hamon.

• 24:35Jessie Ware?

  Real hamon.

• 24:35Speaker 03

  Unlike the prosciutto we had in the movie.

• 24:37Jessie Ware?

  Exactly. And so I'll just get that sorted. I'll make some more drinks and you can ask Olivia about halasa.

• 24:42Speaker 02

  Okay, so no, who was cooking for you when you were at home? Did your mum cook anything or was it dad's shepherd's pie?

• 24:49Speaker 03

  She cooked, but my dad was probably more of the chef, I think. And, but you know what? She was really great about bringing healthy food before it was trendy. Like, I remember growing up with so much salad. And I, people would come over to my house and they would say, wow, at your house, you just have like green leafy salad all the time, which I think a lot of people in the States, a salad is sort of just another way of having like, saying like a bowl of food. And so it would be a lot of like cheese and fruit and things. And she was so good at making like the most perfect salads and vegetables.

• 25:31Speaker 03

  And she would, I remember in Ireland when we were little, she would go and get olive oil from the pharmacy because you couldn't get it at the store yet.

• 25:38Speaker 02

  No, you couldn't.

• 25:39Speaker 03

  So she would get lots of little tiny vials.

• 25:41Speaker 02

  They were only small. They came like med- medical supplies.

• 25:45Speaker 03

  And make vinaigrette.

• 25:47Speaker 02

  What was the food like at boarding school?

• 25:49Speaker 03

  You know what? I, I think we were pretty well, we were spoiled in that there were, there were a lot of options. It's not like we were like given slop and told to eat it. We were definitely given options, but I think there's something about unleashing thirteen year olds on a dining hall and then just telling them like, make sure to eat a balanced diet and be healthy. And I just remember kind of fending for myself and probably eating way too much shit.

• 26:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, shit. But when you, when you left boarding school, you went to live in L A.

• 26:23Speaker 03

  I did.

• 26:24Speaker 02

  Presumably on your own.

• 26:25Speaker 03

  I did, yeah.

• 26:26Speaker 02

  So you were flat sharing.

• 26:27Speaker 03

  Yeah. And, and actually I lived in, in, in someone's little guest house and I was a casting assistant. And I would take buses to work, which in L A.

• 26:36Speaker 02

  Well, how did you find one?

• 26:38Speaker 03

  Hours of commute, hours of commute and waiting in the swell. I would arrive at work so sweaty. I remember my boss just being like, Olivia, what has, what's happening? And I was like, I don't know why everyone else isn't sweaty. Why is everyone else fine? But then I finally did get myself a car and, and then I started auditioning and I, I really kind of put roots in L A. But then I moved back to New York for a bunch of my twenties and thirties. I had my kids in New York.

• 27:06Speaker 02

  Where did, did you learn to cook?

• 27:09Speaker 03

  I went to the Ballymaloo Cooking School in Ireland.

• 27:11Speaker 02

  Ballymaloo, oh my God.

• 27:13Jessie Ware?

  How did you do the course for?

• 27:15Speaker 03

  I just did one summer.

• 27:16Speaker 02

  Jessie, we need to go.

• 27:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 27:18Jessie Ware?

  Summer? How long's the summer?

• 27:19Speaker 03

  It was a guy, it was like several weeks long.

• 27:22Speaker 02

  Wow. Oh, wow. I was thinking of a week long.

• 27:25Speaker 03

  It is the best and most beautiful place. And Dorina Allen, who runs it, of course, and she now her kids, I think, are like taking over the empire. But it was so funny because I think I was the only person, I mean, I was really young. I was like fourteen. And everyone else was like probably in their like fifties.

• 27:48Speaker 02

  Oh my God, and you were there learning to cook?

• 27:50Speaker 03

  And I remember we learned, we learned like quiche. I remember really studying quiche and a lot of pastries. And I remember her, her thing was really like butter and cream and.

• 28:03Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 28:03Speaker 03

  More butter and more cream. It was delicious. It was so beautiful. And you'd, you'd cook from the garden. Everything there is fresh. And she was really revolutionary within the kind of world of Irish cooking. People used to equate Ireland, oh, thank you, with pretty terrible food, even though there's so much fresh.

• 28:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 28:21Speaker 03

  Fish and vegetables. And then she changed the game.

• 28:26Jessie Ware?

  Okay, it's really not, it's not us really showcasing.

• 28:30Speaker 02

  Cooking skills.

• 28:32Speaker 03

  No, it is. Look at all that cheese.

• 28:33Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, there's a lot of cheese face. I hope you like cheese.

• 28:36Speaker 03

  I love cheese.

• 28:37Speaker 02

  Okay, so.

• 28:38Jessie Ware?

  What we have here is, you know, cheese board with some jamon because we are thinking about Penelope Cruz and the invite. And then this is a Nigel Slater, like savory loaf, which is, um, it's, uh, it's got kefir in it. So it's good for your gut, Olivia. Um, feta, sun dried tomatoes, basil, thyme. I don't know if it's any good, fingers crossed. But if not, and then I've done, have you seen these things on TikTok? These like viral dippy oil things? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. And I've never done them. And I thought, oh, well, I'll just do that. So that's a dippy thing. Do you know what I mean? So there we go. We've got everything. So please help yourself because I think that. I, I just.

• 29:21Jessie Ware?

  Shall I just put a bit on? Okay. Is there anything you don't like? I feel fine.

• 29:36Jessie Ware?

  Whilst Mum and me cut things up, last supper, start a main, put drink of choice.

• 29:42Speaker 03

  Okay. I love this question because it is actually my, my favorite question to ask at dinner parties when I feel like people are really struggling to connect. And I feel it is something that everyone, really if they think about it, they have an answer. But you say it in a nice way, last supper. I always say, execution meal.

• 30:02Jessie Ware?

  We used to say that, but then people got offended.

• 30:04Speaker 03

  It's very offensive.

• 30:05Jessie Ware?

  Do you want some?

• 30:07Speaker 03

  Yes, please.

• 30:07Jessie Ware?

  Come on. The hamons at the back, hold on. This one?

• 30:10Speaker 03

  I would love that.

• 30:11Jessie Ware?

  No, it's this one. But just like here, darling.

• 30:14Speaker 03

  Okay, here's what I was thinking. It's a, it's a little bit disgusting because in this fantasy meal, if I'm imagining it to be my last, I'm gonna mix cuisines.

• 30:23Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, that's fine.

• 30:24Speaker 03

  And you would never do this, but I was thinking, I would like to start with like, um, like a nice, like refreshing, like hamachi crudo, you know, something with a little like something, like a little jalapeno, a little citrus, something.

• 30:39Jessie Ware?

  Love that.

• 30:40Speaker 03

  And then I would do a weird, sharp turn and do a gazpacho. I love a gazpacho.

• 30:47Jessie Ware?

  I don't. So you need to explain to me where I need to go to get a good gazpacho.

• 30:51Speaker 03

  I think Penelope Cruz, her house in Spain. I've never been, but I want to imagine that we've been there.

• 30:59Jessie Ware?

  Is she not your new best friend?

• 31:00Speaker 03

  She is my best friend. I wonder if I'm her best friend. No, I think, I think she's told me many times. Um, to come to Madrid and to to stay with her and Javier and it's simply too good for me to experience.

• 31:15Speaker 02

  It's Javier, but.

• 31:16Speaker 03

  I know.

• 31:17Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 31:17Jessie Ware?

  Do you know the most attractive couple in the world?

• 31:19Speaker 02

  Gorgeous.

• 31:20Speaker 03

  So they, do you know how they they met on Hamon Hamon? A film, a Pedro, um, a Robert film. That they made and she was really young, like seventeen.

• 31:30Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 31:31Speaker 03

  And I think it was her first film.

• 31:33Jessie Ware?

  Right.

• 31:34Speaker 03

  And he was like, a little bit older.

• 31:36Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 31:36Speaker 03

  And obviously had the hots for her, but it didn't happen then.

• 31:39Jessie Ware?

  Right, yeah.

• 31:40Speaker 03

  But obviously they crushed on each other and then not until Vicky Christina Barcelona.

• 31:46Speaker 02

  Oh, wow. So how long ago after that was that?

• 31:49Jessie Ware?

  A while.

• 31:50Speaker 03

  Yeah. It's gotta be, you know, maybe fifteen.

• 31:52Jessie Ware?

  Yeah. In that one, right?

• 31:54Speaker 03

  That's many years later.

• 31:55Jessie Ware?

  Uh huh.

• 31:56Speaker 03

  Again, math, not my thing, but many, many years later.

• 31:59Jessie Ware?

  Mm hmm.

• 31:59Speaker 03

  They meet again. I mean, they knew of each other. They're the two most famous people in Spain. I'm sure they saw each other around, but they worked together again. And she said, within a week. It was love and I love them. I love them and I love their kids and they are the most like aspirational couple. You just want to have what they have.

• 32:21Speaker 02

  I've been very conservative with the cheese, so you can have lots more.

• 32:25Speaker 03

  This is great.

• 32:25Jessie Ware?

  Okay, so we've got, we've got this crudo, hamachi.

• 32:29Speaker 02

  Oh, do you want an artichoke?

• 32:30Speaker 03

  Mm, yes, please.

• 32:31Jessie Ware?

  Sorry, it may need like a little. Little something.

• 32:34Speaker 03

  Iron.

• 32:35Jessie Ware?

  Um, so hamachi crudo, gazpacho.

• 32:38Speaker 03

  Okay, I know already it's like, what is wrong with you?

• 32:41Jessie Ware?

  Fine.

• 32:41Speaker 03

  But imagine it's refreshing.

• 32:43Jessie Ware?

  Chutney. Yeah, yes, I like it.

• 32:45Speaker 03

  But then the next one, the main is an emotional choice.

• 32:48Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 32:49Speaker 03

  So my grandmother, my dad's mother.

• 32:53Jessie Ware?

  Mm hmm.

• 32:54Speaker 03

  Made this roast chicken that was the most delicious thing. Any of us have ever eaten and we've all tried to learn to recreate it.

• 33:05Speaker 02

  You can't.

• 33:06Speaker 03

  It's impossible. There's something about it. I don't know. My dad and I were just talking about it. Like, why is it so good? And she would do roast chicken, bread sauce.

• 33:16Speaker 02

  Mm.

• 33:17Jessie Ware?

  Hmm.

• 33:18Speaker 02

  It's delicious.

• 33:19Jessie Ware?

  I love it. It's so oniony with like big peppercorns and um and stuffing.

• 33:27Jessie Ware?

  Which isn't an American, well, I mean, she's Irish, right? So.

• 33:30Speaker 02

  They do have stuffing in America.

• 33:31Jessie Ware?

  Do they? Only on Thanksgiving.

• 33:33Speaker 02

  Thanksgiving.

• 33:34Jessie Ware?

  Um.

• 33:34Speaker 03

  We have it every Sunday if we could.

• 33:36Jessie Ware?

  I'm, I would eat it by the like bathtub load.

• 33:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, and dripping in the bread sauce. I, I feel like sadly, bread sauce is restricted really to.

• 33:46Speaker 02

  I'll do it for you.

• 33:47Jessie Ware?

  Christmas Day.

• 33:48Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's kind of an indulgent thing, right? You wouldn't just have a bread sauce all the time.

• 33:53Jessie Ware?

  They're not like giving that in the pubs, do you know what I mean?

• 33:55Speaker 03

  This is so.

• 33:56Jessie Ware?

  Oh, it's picky.

• 33:58Speaker 02

  I love this bread, Jessie.

• 34:00Speaker 03

  Okay, good. I'm adding this to my last meal.

• 34:02Speaker 02

  Darling, this is amazing.

• 34:04Jessie Ware?

  Oh, it's yeah, but it's Nigel Slater, it's not me.

• 34:06Speaker 02

  Delicious.

• 34:07Jessie Ware?

  I think I probably, I was worried it wasn't cooked properly in the middle. I think it probably could have come out about two minutes early. It's a good, it's a good recipe.

• 34:16Speaker 03

  Recipe, but you made it. This, that was the script and this is the movie and you made it.

• 34:20Jessie Ware?

  Thanks, Olivia.

• 34:20Speaker 03

  A while.

• 34:21Jessie Ware?

  Jesus. Um, so, okay, we've got the main, we've got your grandma's roast chicken.

• 34:26Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 34:26Jessie Ware?

  And then. Are you a sweet tooth?

• 34:29Speaker 03

  I love chocolate pudding.

• 34:31Jessie Ware?

  What is that?

• 34:32Speaker 03

  Moose.

• 34:32Jessie Ware?

  Oh, chocolate mousse. Okay, can I tell you where you need to go whilst you're here?

• 34:35Speaker 03

  Yes, oh, yeah.

• 34:36Jessie Ware?

  For a baked chocolate mousse.

• 34:37Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 34:38Jessie Ware?

  Café Clement.

• 34:39Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 34:39Jessie Ware?

  Um, it's Saint Clement, why am I saying Clement, but then I say Saint Clement, whatever, Café Clement, um, Nick Jones's new place.

• 34:46Speaker 03

  Oh, yes, oh, yes, I read about it.

• 34:48Jessie Ware?

  The baked chocolate mousse there, babe.

• 34:50Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, I'm going.

• 34:50Jessie Ware?

  For two people is freaking.

• 34:53Speaker 03

  Or one.

• 34:53Jessie Ware?

  It's delicious.

• 34:55Speaker 03

  How you feel.

• 34:55Jessie Ware?

  Please go and eat that.

• 34:57Speaker 03

  Is it like, you know, in Paris when they give you the big glass bowl?

• 35:00Jessie Ware?

  Well, it's not because it's baked, so it's slightly like a souffle, but also like a mousse, so it satisfies both things.

• 35:07Speaker 03

  I really, I like it when it's really whipped and like that feels.

• 35:13Speaker 02

  Olivia, can you make a souffle?

• 35:15Speaker 03

  No.

• 35:16Speaker 02

  Oh, Olivia.

• 35:17Speaker 03

  I know, I would like to learn.

• 35:19Speaker 02

  It's that easy.

• 35:20Speaker 03

  Is it? I, is it true?

• 35:22Speaker 02

  You've got to be brave.

• 35:23Speaker 03

  Make lots of noise. Is that a wives tale that you can't yell around it?

• 35:27Jessie Ware?

  What?

• 35:28Speaker 02

  I've never heard that.

• 35:29Speaker 03

  No. This is obviously a lie my mother told me so that we would shut up. Well, it was that if you were, now I say it out loud, it sounds insane, that if you make lots of noise.

• 35:42Speaker 02

  It's.

• 35:42Speaker 03

  It'll fall.

• 35:45Jessie Ware?

  Olivia.

• 35:48Jessie Ware?

  I'm gullible, but that's fucking gullible.

• 35:50Speaker 03

  Sorry.

• 35:51Jessie Ware?

  I love that. You're a dreamer, you're a believer.

• 35:55Speaker 03

  Got it. Silence only for the souffle.

• 35:57Jessie Ware?

  I mean, I guess like concentration comes into it, maybe.

• 36:00Speaker 03

  There was, there's, it was like a lot of it, like, don't let it fall, which I now realize sounds.

• 36:05Jessie Ware?

  I love that.

• 36:06Speaker 03

  Obviously, science wasn't my thing either.

• 36:09Speaker 02

  Did you have good catering on the set?

• 36:13Speaker 03

  We did. So I hear, I was so.

• 36:16Jessie Ware?

  Oh, God, we're just like doing everything.

• 36:18Speaker 02

  Well, she was everything.

• 36:19Speaker 03

  Riddled with anxiety and, and, I mean, I was having the most fun. But you know, when you're so focused on a project.

• 36:26Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 36:26Speaker 03

  And you care and you have this deep well of energy that comes up, which is great.

• 36:30Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, it's like manic though.

• 36:31Speaker 03

  It's a little manic.

• 36:32Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 36:32Speaker 03

  It's a little manic. Penelope Cruz used to walk up and just shove snacks in my face. And she'd see me drinking like a Diet Coke. Or Seth Rogen got me onto cherry.

• 36:46Jessie Ware?

  Cola?

• 36:46Speaker 03

  Cherry Coke Zero.

• 36:48Jessie Ware?

  Oh, God, I've never heard of that.

• 36:50Speaker 03

  I mean, it's not made of anything natural.

• 36:52Jessie Ware?

  No, but delish.

• 36:54Speaker 03

  So good, so good. So I would be drinking that Penelope, like, oh, no, no. And she'd give me like, like a piece of fruit and a water. And I'd be like, this won't do, this isn't going to get me through the day. But it was, it was just a very short period of time of like real.

• 37:11Jessie Ware?

  How long did you film it for?

• 37:13Speaker 03

  Twenty one days.

• 37:15Jessie Ware?

  Wow.

• 37:15Speaker 03

  And then two days on location. We went to San Francisco and did all the kind of exterior stuff.

• 37:20Jessie Ware?

  I want, I want to say that first opening shot with the chairs in the auditorium.

• 37:24Speaker 03

  Isn't that great?

• 37:25Jessie Ware?

  It's so beautiful.

• 37:26Speaker 03

  That's in this beautiful conservatory in San Francisco. It's actually in a high school, but it looks so beautiful. And, I mean, I, I really care a lot about opening shots. I think it says everything about the movie. I also, I love opening credit sequences, which is kind of an old school thing now.

• 37:42Jessie Ware?

  And you did, yeah, it was beautiful.

• 37:44Speaker 03

  It's like a way to tell, to set up the movie, give a lot of context very quickly.

• 37:49Speaker 02

  What would you have been if you hadn't been an actress and a director?

• 37:53Speaker 03

  Well, the funny thing is that.

• 37:55Speaker 02

  Besides a neuroscientist.

• 37:56Speaker 03

  The reason I went to Bali Malu is I wanted, I thought I wanted to be a chef.

• 38:00Speaker 02

  Did you?

• 38:00Speaker 03

  I think it's just because I wanted to eat all day, every day. I just love food and I love food culture and people. I think for me, because my parents had these dinner parties all the time. I equated the food world with like happiness, people gathering, connection.

• 38:20Speaker 02

  Kind of glamorous dinner parties as well.

• 38:22Speaker 03

  Yes, yeah, fun, it sounded fun.

• 38:24Speaker 02

  People don't do as many dinner parties anymore.

• 38:26Speaker 03

  But I think English people are much better, like in New York. People put shoes in their kitchen, like, why would you even have a kitchen?

• 38:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, Sarah Jessica Parker in.

• 38:35Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 38:37Speaker 02

  She used to.

• 38:37Jessie Ware?

  But like, would you?

• 38:38Speaker 02

  Store stuff.

• 38:39Jessie Ware?

  Where do you, where do you live now?

• 38:41Speaker 03

  I kind of, I'm, I'm based in LA.

• 38:43Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 38:43Speaker 03

  LA, London, a bit of New York.

• 38:46Jessie Ware?

  Um, but would, if we were coming over.

• 38:49Speaker 03

  Mm hmm, mm hmm.

• 38:50Jessie Ware?

  Would you be ordering in or would you cook for us?

• 38:52Speaker 03

  You guys ordering in, I wouldn't dare, but a normal person.

• 38:55Jessie Ware?

  Nora Ephron always says it's okay to have like one little thing that's brought in.

• 39:00Speaker 03

  And she also said you need just a few basic recipes, right? And I think that I, I used to have my go-tos and I've really, I've lost that practice.

• 39:12Jessie Ware?

  What, we didn't get what your last supper drink would be, did we?

• 39:16Speaker 03

  I think wine, but I wasn't confident enough to name a wine.

• 39:18Jessie Ware?

  You like red?

• 39:19Speaker 03

  I like red wine.

• 39:20Jessie Ware?

  I do like red too.

• 39:21Speaker 03

  I like white wine too. I like, like a good, like, it's like a good, like, summer that's just drenched in like real, like, white wine, just like a boozy white wine summer. I really could live that life.

• 39:33Jessie Ware?

  That's what I'm doing this summer.

• 39:35Speaker 03

  And I'm not opposed to putting ice in my wine.

• 39:37Jessie Ware?

  I love that, babe. That's what the French do.

• 39:40Speaker 03

  Oh, really?

• 39:40Speaker 02

  The Greeks do it as well. I think it's to dilute it slightly.

• 39:44Jessie Ware?

  I mean, hang on.

• 39:45Speaker 02

  Chic.

• 39:45Jessie Ware?

  Uh, so that's my annoying. Uh, my dancer who lives in Paris said that they're all having rosé with an ice cube in.

• 39:54Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 39:54Jessie Ware?

  And it's a thing.

• 39:55Speaker 02

  I love rosé.

• 39:56Jessie Ware?

  So apologies.

• 39:57Speaker 02

  You love rosé?

• 39:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, I, I'm not usually, for some reason.

• 40:00Speaker 02

  I don't love rosé. Yeah, I love rosé.

• 40:01Speaker 03

  I prefer like a really dry, crispy white.

• 40:05Speaker 02

  White burgundy.

• 40:06Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 40:06Speaker 02

  A chablis or something, yeah.

• 40:09Speaker 03

  Um, I, but I do like a good red wine.

• 40:12Jessie Ware?

  So, so you're in London promoting. Are there any spots that you absolutely love to go to when you're in London?

• 40:17Speaker 03

  Yes, so I edited the film in London.

• 40:19Jessie Ware?

  Oh, nice.

• 40:20Speaker 03

  And I was in Soho.

• 40:22Speaker 03

  And I would, my favorite lunch place was, I love duck soup.

• 40:25Jessie Ware?

  It's so nice.

• 40:27Speaker 03

  I love Mountain.

• 40:29Jessie Ware?

  Oh, yeah.

• 40:30Speaker 03

  We love Mountain is really good. They have this chorizo that is so good.

• 40:36Jessie Ware?

  Is it the sopressata, the one that's, yeah, with the honey?

• 40:38Speaker 02

  His bread is great.

• 40:40Speaker 03

  It's so good and really, really nice wine.

• 40:43Speaker 02

  Do you need more cheese, darling?

• 40:45Speaker 03

  No, now I'm, I still, now I'm finally getting into my cheese. I haven't had the soft one, is that this?

• 40:49Jessie Ware?

  This is the Tallegio.

• 40:51Speaker 03

  Tal, Tallegio?

• 40:52Jessie Ware?

  Tallegio, shall we go on?

• 40:54Speaker 02

  I have to tell you something, Olivia, but Jessie and your, and you, your character in the, have a lot in common.

• 41:03Speaker 03

  Oh, you're, are you a bit of an Angela?

• 41:06Speaker 02

  Naked.

• 41:07Speaker 03

  I do like, but I don't necessarily want to do it for the neighbors.

• 41:11Jessie Ware?

  I don't do it for Ray and Carol. No, I don't.

• 41:14Speaker 02

  Jessie's always.

• 41:15Speaker 03

  But they don't mind.

• 41:16Speaker 02

  But Jessie's always walked around naked.

• 41:18Jessie Ware?

  Actually, Carol did tell me when we just moved in, that she saw you. I hate to break it to you, but I can see you in your bathroom, I think maybe, and I did get a curtain. That's a good, that's a sister.

• 41:30Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 41:31Jessie Ware?

  No, it's a very sweet, she went, I hate, we don't know each other very well, but I can't see you naked in your bathroom.

• 41:37Speaker 03

  I used to, when I lived in New York, there were, there was a couple across the way in a building nearby and I had binoculars and I don't know if this is, this is unethical, really, but I watched their entire relationship. It was very rear window, like I watched them from, I believed, I told myself it was their first date, through the breakup, over like a year.

• 41:59Jessie Ware?

  Oh, wow.

• 42:00Speaker 03

  I would check in, it was like watching my favorite show. I would just like run up to the roof of the apartment building and be like, huh. And unfortunately, they were, they, they always went away into the bedroom to have sex. I was always like,

• 42:11Jessie Ware?

  You never got that bad.

• 42:13Speaker 03

  They're gonna get busy in this kitchen, I'm watching. They were very polite. They were like, Have drinks, have dinner and like flirt and I'd be like, okay, okay. Oh, no, but I really tracked their emotional development as a couple.

• 42:26Jessie Ware?

  I love that honesty. Thank you for that, Olivia, you psychopath. Before we have pudding.

• 42:31Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 42:31Jessie Ware?

  Um, what, so yeah, we didn't actually find out what you would be cooking for us, did we? If we were coming over to yours.

• 42:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, because I bailed on it really quick.

• 42:38Jessie Ware?

  You really did.

• 42:38Speaker 03

  I would order you something from all time.

• 42:42Jessie Ware?

  The Japanese sweet potato.

• 42:44Speaker 03

  Yeah, I would get you some beautiful Japanese sweet potato cooked by Ashley from all time.

• 42:48Jessie Ware?

  What do you have with it? Do you have the fish or do you have the steak?

• 42:51Speaker 03

  I really like that steak, actually. Sometimes I'll go sit by myself at the bar and have the steak.

• 42:56Jessie Ware?

  Mm hmm.

• 42:56Speaker 03

  With some red wine. I love to eat by myself.

• 42:59Jessie Ware?

  Really?

• 43:00Speaker 03

  I love it.

• 43:00Jessie Ware?

  Do you live near Hillhurst?

• 43:02Speaker 03

  I used, for years, I was right up the street. Now I'm in Laurel Canyon, I'm nearby.

• 43:06Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 43:06Speaker 03

  But I will drive there happily. I, I, in the last like six years, learned how to eat alone.

• 43:15Jessie Ware?

  Right.

• 43:16Speaker 03

  Without shame. And the funniest time, I mean, there was one time, my favorite restaurant in Paris is, um, Ami Louis. Ami Louis, you know, you, you've probably been there and not remembered, but they have the roast chicken. They have this chicken with fries and it's so delicious. And that's what you get there. You just get the chicken. And I went, I was in Paris and I didn't have anyone to have dinner with and I was like, I just want to go alone. I actually don't want to talk to anyone else. I want to focus on eating. I just want to think about the chicken and eat the chicken. But it's really a chicken for two. Or like seven, chicken, it's a big chicken. And I went and they were like, it's just you. And I was like, yes.

• 43:58Speaker 03

  And I ordered it and I ate the entire fucking thing.

• 44:02Jessie Ware?

  Oh, wow. Good for you.

• 44:03Speaker 03

  It was like the scene in Seven when he's like, I like couldn't be stopped. It was real gluttony, but it was perfect. And I saw someone I knew in the restaurant and they looked at me with such pity and they're like,

• 44:17Speaker 02

  You like that.

• 44:18Speaker 03

  I'm fine, I'm fine. And I, I was so happy.

• 44:21Speaker 02

  Do you read when you're?

• 44:22Speaker 03

  Yes, and I read. And then it's just, you realize like, I didn't want to see anyone else. I wanted to just have this time alone, but it feels so shameful.

• 44:30Speaker 02

  Bill Knight, do you know of Bill Knight?

• 44:32Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 44:33Speaker 02

  He eats on alone every night and reads a book every night and he never cooks in.

• 44:38Speaker 03

  Well.

• 44:38Speaker 02

  He goes out every night to a restaurant and eats on his own.

• 44:41Speaker 03

  That's the life I want. I love it. And I think it's tricky because sometimes when people say, are you free? And you're like, well, I am free.

• 44:50Speaker 02

  But I don't want to see you.

• 44:51Speaker 03

  But I'm gonna spend it alone in a restaurant and it's valuable. I also finally learned how to travel by myself, which I think many women don't do, particularly once you've had kids and you feel guilty about doing it. But I, I started going on trips by myself, road trips by myself, just learning how to be alone.

• 45:11Speaker 02

  I can't do that.

• 45:12Speaker 03

  You could.

• 45:12Speaker 02

  Jessie can't be on her own even an evening.

• 45:16Speaker 03

  But this is what I had to learn to. It was a very, it was an important thing for me as a person to, to figure out how to, I, I was single for many years, in the last chunk of years. Cause I just thought, wait, do I not even know how to be alone? And so I, I made it my focus. And I mean, people really look at you like you're insane, but it's worth it.

• 45:37Speaker 02

  Okay, I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try. I have to come for the, if Sam goes out, she wants me in the house.

• 45:43Speaker 03

  That's really nice.

• 45:43Speaker 02

  That's maybe more for John, girl.

• 45:47Speaker 02

  Fuck off, Jessie. I thought it's because you adored me.

• 45:50Speaker 03

  I do adore you, Mum. We're tethered. We are tethered. Should I check if that ice cream's okay?

• 45:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 45:55Speaker 03

  Mum, tell, tell Olivia what she's eating.

• 45:58Speaker 02

  It's an apricot ice cream with amaretto biscuit.

• 46:01Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 46:02Speaker 02

  Oh my god, that's heaven, Mum. I told you.

• 46:05Speaker 03

  Shit, that's good.

• 46:07Speaker 02

  Do you know what it is? You'll probably stop eating it. It's a whole jar of jam.

• 46:13Speaker 03

  Jam, ooh.

• 46:14Speaker 02

  Uh, bon moment, apricot preserve. You whip up a small pot of cream. And mix it together.

• 46:22Speaker 03

  With amaretto biscuits.

• 46:23Speaker 02

  Amaretto.

• 46:24Speaker 03

  Mum, this is a gra- I actually think this is heaven.

• 46:27Speaker 02

  Mm.

• 46:28Speaker 03

  It's so good. It actually has like almost a mousse like quality to it because it's so creamy.

• 46:33Speaker 02

  And you don't need to churn it.

• 46:35Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 46:37Speaker 02

  This is great mum.

• 46:38Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 46:39Speaker 02

  Looks like proper ice cream.

• 46:40Speaker 03

  I mean, why does anyone bother to do bloody

• 46:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:43Speaker 03

  the whole churn with the ice cream?

• 46:45Speaker 02

  But I think there must be some alchemy with the jam and the cream together.

• 46:51Speaker 03

  That's creating this very specific.

• 46:52Speaker 02

  And do you get the crunch?

• 46:54Speaker 03

  I did get the crunch then.

• 46:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:55Speaker 03

  That, that's a slam dunk.

• 46:58Speaker 02

  Would you have a bit more of the crunch in?

• 47:00Speaker 03

  Okay, do you want me to?

• 47:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 47:02Speaker 03

  I would have more crunch and slightly less apricot.

• 47:04Speaker 02

  Mm.

• 47:05Speaker 03

  That might have been the, the chunk you got, maybe.

• 47:08Speaker 02

  Then I think I might put more cream in because.

• 47:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, more cream always.

• 47:12Speaker 02

  Mm. Yeah, it's really slimming and you won't have a heart attack afterwards.

• 47:17Speaker 03

  My dad always says if it doesn't taste right, add more butter. If that doesn't work, add more cream.

• 47:21Speaker 02

  He's Irish.

• 47:22Speaker 03

  Yeah, he gets it.

• 47:24Speaker 02

  Do you still go to Ireland on holiday?

• 47:26Speaker 03

  They're there right now and I'm going in a couple of weeks and we usually spend the whole, I mean, they spend like four months a year.

• 47:33Speaker 02

  Have you got a house there?

• 47:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 47:35Speaker 02

  Because your kids are on break now.

• 47:37Speaker 03

  They're on break.

• 47:38Jessie Ware?

  So before we let you go, can you give us a nostalgic taste that can transport you back somewhere?

• 47:43Speaker 03

  Oh yeah. It's funny because I think about, I said my dad would make like shepherd's pie.

• 47:48Speaker 02

  Mm.

• 47:48Speaker 03

  Which is a thing that I think if I were to have a bite of would immediately take me back to being about like ten years old.

• 47:55Speaker 02

  Do they have shepherd's pie in the States? No. Does he have a secret ingredient? I put baked beans in mine.

• 48:01Speaker 03

  Ooh.

• 48:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 48:03Speaker 03

  That's great.

• 48:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 48:05Speaker 03

  I think it's just like the mince itself being as kind of like probably buttery as possible.

• 48:10Speaker 02

  Mm, mm.

• 48:12Speaker 03

  It's just always butter.

• 48:13Speaker 02

  And the potato is gorgeous on top.

• 48:14Speaker 03

  Potato. For, for a few misguided years, I was a vegan. And I say misguided because I didn't do it right.

• 48:20Speaker 02

  Right.

• 48:21Speaker 03

  I was like a really badly behaved vegan.

• 48:24Speaker 02

  A bad vegan.

• 48:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, because I would just eat like.

• 48:26Speaker 02

  That could be your memoir. I was a bad vegan.

• 48:29Speaker 03

  Isn't that, it's like it might already be one.

• 48:32Speaker 03

  But it was pathetic because I would try to turn every delicious dish into a vegan dish, which is always really disgusting. And I would do like vegan shepherd's pie, which is a lot of mushrooms.

• 48:43Speaker 02

  Yeah. Oh, mushrooms. You don't use corn. Corn or that pretend mince stuff?

• 48:49Speaker 03

  I don't like any of the pretend meats.

• 48:51Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 48:52Speaker 03

  But it was so funny because I would try to make it for my dad and be like, I've done the same thing, except vegan. And he was like, get it out. It's not the same. But I really feel, I feel emotional about shepherd's pie, probably because of him. But I, I, it's funny because that just occurred to me in the moment because we were just talking about him. But I'd say if I had to pick like my favorite thing to eat is, is Italian food. Like I think that there's nothing better.

• 49:19Speaker 02

  Me neither.

• 49:19Speaker 03

  There's nothing better.

• 49:20Speaker 02

  Which sugo is your sugo, your go to sugo?

• 49:24Speaker 03

  What is my go to sugo? I mean, for me, it's I only, I go for like the spaghetti bonglè at any opportunity.

• 49:32Speaker 02

  Do you go to Italy on holiday? Who would be your favorite guest around a dinner table?

• 49:39Speaker 03

  Dead or alive?

• 49:39Speaker 02

  Dead or alive?

• 49:40Speaker 03

  I was thinking about this recently and I was thinking Carl Sagan. Because I actually.

• 49:46Speaker 02

  Who's that?

• 49:46Speaker 03

  Carl Sagan.

• 49:47Speaker 02

  Well, I always called him Carl Sagan, but I'm sure it's Carl Sagan. No, I don't think it is. I think you're right.

• 49:52Speaker 03

  He, so.

• 49:53Speaker 02

  He's a novelist, isn't he?

• 49:54Speaker 03

  He's a novelist and an, an astrophysicist.

• 49:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 49:57Speaker 03

  Right. And he and his wife, Anne Dorian, they created, I think, the most romantic thing that's ever been made, which was the golden record. The golden record in nineteen seventy five was a record of kind of creations by humans in terms of this, like, sounds of humanity that was pressed onto a literal golden record and put on the voyagers, the two voyagers sent into space. And they're still in space. They're still going. And it's so, so romantic is what they did. And you can find this, you can listen to it online. They captured the sounds of like babies crying, people laughing, just what humans sound like and music, like Chuck Berry, they curated this.

• 50:40Speaker 02

  So if a Martian finds it.

• 50:41Speaker 03

  Yes, and the idea was that if a Martian found it, or anyone found it, that they would play this record and they would understand humanity. And they even had instructions for how to put the vinyl on, as though there would be someone with like opposable thumbs to figure out. But I just think it's the most romantic thing in the world. And the fact that they're still out there and you can listen to the recordings they made. And there's an opening to the record from the, I think Secretary General of the UN. And it's all about like, on behalf of humanity. It's the idea of we come with curiosity and kindness. And the idea of, oh, if only this could be what we send out into the.

• 51:20Speaker 02

  Jessie, I'm writing to NASA and asking for one of your albums to go out, darling.

• 51:24Speaker 03

  You must be on the next.

• 51:26Speaker 02

  On the next, the next rocket, your album is going to be on there.

• 51:30Speaker 03

  Really? And Carl Sagan, you know, he, the idea of the, we are just a pale blue dot in space. And, and not only was their love just legendary as a couple, but they, but he had this perspective on our place in the universe that I find really fascinating. So I think if I could have anyone to dinner.

• 51:47Jessie Ware?

  I, that's, I think that is where we can leave it because that is an excellent answer. Um, Olivia Wilde, thank you so much for coming over. Congratulations.

• 51:57Speaker 02

  It's wonderful.

• 51:58Jessie Ware?

  It's a fantastic film.

• 52:00Speaker 03

  I'm so happy you liked it.

• 52:02Speaker 02

  We would wish you good luck, but you don't need it.

• 52:04Jessie Ware?

  You absolutely don't.

• 52:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, you need a mazel tov.

• 52:07Speaker 03

  I need a mazel tov.

• 52:09Jessie Ware?

  I appreciate it.

• 52:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 52:11Jessie Ware?

  Thank you.

• 52:26Speaker 02

  Olivia Wilde, what a gal. What a fantastic woman.

• 52:30Jessie Ware?

  Such fun.

• 52:31Speaker 02

  That was a great first date for me and Olivia.

• 52:34Jessie Ware?

  I just loved her. I mean, she was enthusiastic, clever, well informed. Who knew about Carl Sagan?

• 52:42Speaker 02

  I know. That was, that was a great dinner party guest.

• 52:45Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 52:46Speaker 02

  Also, I guess, she maybe, yeah, she said at the beginning, she's relieved because it's all.

• 52:54Jessie Ware?

  Feels good with the invite because it is that brilliant.

• 52:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 52:57Jessie Ware?

  You must go and see it.

• 52:58Speaker 02

  Wonderful.

• 52:59Jessie Ware?

  You must go and discuss it with your friends.

• 53:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 53:01Jessie Ware?

  And your loved ones. And congratulations to Olivia Wilde and the cast of The Invite. It is so fantastic. The food was really, I mean, look, like it was

• 53:11Speaker 02

  Delicious.

• 53:12Jessie Ware?

  That Nigel Slater loaf would be perfect for a picnic.

• 53:15Speaker 02

  Oh, it's gorgeous.

• 53:17Jessie Ware?

  Really good for a picnic and really straightforward and rose for me. So if I can do it, anyone can. And you know how crap I am.

• 53:24Speaker 02

  What was the rising agent then?

• 53:26Jessie Ware?

  I think the self-raising flour.

• 53:28Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 53:29Jessie Ware?

  By carb. And the kefir, I guess, kind of helped, maybe. I don't know.

• 53:33Speaker 02

  Don't know. Yeah.

• 53:34Jessie Ware?

  Sure.

• 53:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 53:35Jessie Ware?

  And we'll see you next week.

• 53:37Speaker 02

  But, excuse me.

• 53:38Jessie Ware?

  Sorry. Oh, sorry. No, let's talk about the ice cream. That ice cream was unreal.

• 53:44Speaker 02

  I know. Easiest thing I've ever done.

• 53:48Jessie Ware?

  Do you think we can give our guests next week that ice cream with another ice cream?

• 53:52Speaker 02

  Yeah. Thank you, Pepe.

• 53:55Jessie Ware?

  That was, she's not dead, Mum. Why are you looking at the sky?

• 53:57Speaker 02

  No, I don't know why I was looking to the sky, but I wanted to thank Pepe because she always says, I can't cook. And then she always turns up something quite delicious that's kind of a really easy recipe.

• 54:08Jessie Ware?

  Lovely. Well done, Pepe. We'll see you next week for more Tavemothers.