Petey USA

Petey USA (yes, that Petey from TikTok and the music scene) sits down with Andrew Santino and delivers everything—mad energy, dark honesty, and the kind of weird that just works. They talk about blowing up online, panic attacks in Whole Foods, making bangers in bathrobes, and why Petey might be the most real ass dude on the internet right now. Check out more Petey USA on: https://peteyswebsite.com 📺 Watch now and hit subscribe for more deep, weird, and funny convos every week on Whiskey Ginger with Andrew Santino. #WhiskeyGinger #AndrewSantino #ComedyPodcast #peteyusa ==================================================== Sponsor Whiskey Ginger: https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/whiskeyginger SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS PROPHETX USE PROMO CODE: WHSIKEY GET UP TO $300 IN PROPHET CASH https://getprophetx.co KICKOFF GET YOUR FIRST MONTH FOR $1 https://getkikoff.com/whiskey BETTER HELP 10% OFF YOUR 1ST MONTH https://betterhelp.com/whiskey ======================================= Follow Andrew Santino: https://www.instagram.com/cheetosantino/ https://twitter.com/CheetoSantino Follow Whiskey Ginger: https://www.instagram.com/whiskeygingerpodcast https://twitter.com/whiskeygingerpodcast Produced and edited by Joe Faria https://www.instagram.com/itsjoefaria Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 1:03Andrew Santino?

  What up, Whiskey Ginger fans? Welcome back to the show. If it's your first time joining the show, welcome to the show. We've got a good one for you today. Also, your boy is doing two remaining international shows with my good buddy Bobby Lee. We're going to London and Dublin, London and Dublin, July 18th and 19th, back-to-back. Back-to-back. Come out and see us at BadFriendsPod.com or AndrewSantino.com. Also, I'm gonna be putting up some tour dates. I'm playing the Brea Improv, I think I'm doing Essa Punchline. I'm jumping around, I'm starting to build this brand-new hour because my new hour comes out September 12th, I believe, as of right now, depending on how the date changes. But anyway, go to AndrewSantino.com or BadFriendsPod.com if you want to come see me and the Lee in London or Dublin. Let's go to the episode.

• 1:46Speaker 02

  In here, we pour whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey.

• 1:52Speaker 03

  You're that creature in the ginger beard!

• 1:54Speaker 02

  It's dirty and ginger.

• 2:11Andrew Santino?

  Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Whiskey Ginger. My guest today is one of my favorite people on earth. I say that wrong, my guess, but I mean it once again. Today, it's Petey U.S.A. You gotta be proud of that, dude.

• 2:20Speaker 04

  Yeah?

• 2:20Andrew Santino?

  You gotta be proud of having USA in your name at this, and this juncture of America.

• 2:24Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:24Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, dude, it's good right now, right?

• 2:26Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's awesome.

• 2:27Andrew Santino?

  It used to just be Petey, but now with the protests, you added USA because you want to take a stand.

• 2:31Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 2:31Andrew Santino?

  That's exactly right. I get it, man. You're, for people that don't know, I was complimenting you before we started rolling. You're an incredible artist, musician, I would say a comedic talent and personality. I found you on the internet. I touched myself to a few of your videos. You're very sensual, sexual. You have piercing eyes. The guy is very beautiful in person, on the internet, doesn't do him justice. And you're funny, man. You're very good. I was saying, I like, I really like your stuff.

• 3:00Speaker 04

  Thank you very much.

• 3:01Andrew Santino?

  Very funny. And now you're a bona fide touring musician, which I guess I only knew you as kind of a comedic personality online. And that's kind of how you built the structure, right?

• 3:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, but I do, I do a pretty bad job of bridging that gap and letting people know what I'm doing. I don't know.

• 3:17Andrew Santino?

  You gotta put it out there.

• 3:18Speaker 04

  It's not intuitive to me.

• 3:19Andrew Santino?

  Well, do it right now. Tell them what, tell them what you're up to.

• 3:21Speaker 04

  I'm a musician. I play indie rock music and I also tour it around the country. And that's what I do.

• 3:31Andrew Santino?

  Perfect, dude.

• 3:31Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 3:32Andrew Santino?

  What gave you, what gave you the, what gave you the inspiration to start doing like comedic style sketches and songs and bits for the internet?

• 3:39Speaker 04

  Covid, honestly. So, yeah, so I had like a real shit job for...

• 3:44Andrew Santino?

  What were you doing?

• 3:44Speaker 04

  A while. I was working at the mailroom at ICM Partners, a talent agency.

• 3:47Andrew Santino?

  Yuck, dude.

• 3:48Speaker 04

  Yeah, it was bad.

• 3:49Andrew Santino?

  Yuck.

• 3:50Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 3:51Andrew Santino?

  How many showers did it take to get rid of that scum on your body?

• 3:53Speaker 04

  Kind of a couple of years worth.

• 3:55Andrew Santino?

  That's, but for people that don't know, ICM is a talent agency.

• 3:59Speaker 04

  Yeah, RIP.

• 4:00Andrew Santino?

  One of the big, yeah, they got, they got swallowed whole by...

• 4:03Speaker 04

  CAA.

• 4:03Andrew Santino?

  CAA, ate them alive. CAA, another... Monolithic conglomerate acronym based sludge of talentless bottom feeders who eat off of our plates and beg you to tour and tour into the ground and disregard your mental health issues and your addictions. So they can benefit and then when you do publicly fall, they cannot wait to distance themselves from you.

• 4:28Speaker 04

  Sure, yeah, they represent me, big shouts.

• 4:33Andrew Santino?

  You're at CAA, that's who's got you?

• 4:34Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 4:35Andrew Santino?

  Good for you, dude. So you worked for them and now they work for you?

• 4:38Speaker 04

  Kinda cool.

• 4:39Andrew Santino?

  That's a beautiful transition of life.

• 4:41Speaker 04

  Oh yeah, for sure. It's trippy. It's like, yeah, it's unbelievable.

• 4:45Andrew Santino?

  You just put out, the album you gave me off camera, is that a brand new album you just dropped?

• 4:49Speaker 04

  No, so those were my first two albums, Lean Into Life, which came out like at the very end of Covid. And then USA, which came out about two years ago. And then I'm about to release another album in a couple of weeks.

• 5:01Andrew Santino?

  It comes out in July, right?

• 5:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, July 11th.

• 5:03Andrew Santino?

  July 11th.

• 5:04Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 5:05Andrew Santino?

  Just short of my favorite holiday, September 11th.

• 5:08Speaker 04

  Yeah. That's why we picked it.

• 5:10Andrew Santino?

  That's exactly right. Actually, my special comes out on September 12th, the day after 9/11, which was deliberate.

• 5:16Speaker 04

  Cool, yeah.

• 5:17Andrew Santino?

  Never forget, dude.

• 5:18Speaker 04

  Just kinda get people...

• 5:21Andrew Santino?

  I'm a nostalgic guy and I want people to be nostalgic when they think about my album and I... We open up the special with, well, I shouldn't give it away, but it's, there's a... It's a plane crash. It's a big, it's a whole thing.

• 5:35Speaker 04

  Cool.

• 5:35Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, in the opening sequence, I, the plane crashes, I'm the only one that lives and I do a stand-up show to the, to the people that are not there anymore.

• 5:42Speaker 04

  Never forget.

• 5:43Andrew Santino?

  Never forget. That's the name of the special, Never Forget. Never Forgot. Don't Forgot.

• 5:46Speaker 04

  Donnie Darko came out on September 11th, 2001.

• 5:50Andrew Santino?

  No.

• 5:51Speaker 04

  And no one saw it in theaters and that's why it became like a cult classic later.

• 5:56Andrew Santino?

  Whoa, that's true, huh?

• 5:57Speaker 04

  Yeah. So it's a good move.

• 5:59Andrew Santino?

  No, he's not tru-, he's saying that's not true.

• 6:01Speaker 05

  It came out on October 26th, 2001.

• 6:04Andrew Santino?

  Damn, dude. What came out, what movies?

• 6:07Speaker 05

  Well, Jay-Z's The Blueprint came out on September 11th.

• 6:08Andrew Santino?

  Blueprint came out on September 11th.

• 6:10Speaker 05

  And also Bob Dylan's Love and Theft.

• 6:11Andrew Santino?

  Whoa.

• 6:13Speaker 05

  Two great albums.

• 6:14Andrew Santino?

  On September 11th.

• 6:15Speaker 05

  2001.

• 6:16Andrew Santino?

  Jay-Z's The Blueprint.

• 6:17Speaker 05

  Came out on 9/11, yeah.

• 6:19Andrew Santino?

  Such a good album. But you don't like hip-hop, so that doesn't resonate for you. What did you grow up listening to?

• 6:23Speaker 04

  I grew up listening to pop punk music, like Blink-182, New Found Glory.

• 6:27Andrew Santino?

  Blink-182 you've toured with?

• 6:28Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 6:29Andrew Santino?

  Which is, how crazy is that?

• 6:30Speaker 04

  Awesome, unreal, yeah.

• 6:31Andrew Santino?

  It's gotta be so surreal to have that kinda like, come back again. Look, those that you work for, now they work for you. People that you're a fan of, now you work with them.

• 6:39Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 6:40Andrew Santino?

  Your life is kinda perfect.

• 6:41Speaker 04

  It's cool, it's cool.

• 6:42Andrew Santino?

  Are you single?

• 6:43Speaker 04

  Uh, no, I'm married. I just got married last weekend.

• 6:45Andrew Santino?

  Oh, oh, last weekend. Whoa, dude.

• 6:48Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 6:49Andrew Santino?

  Alright, that's rad. Are you gonna, uh, you guys are gonna make a family, or you're just gonna, just you two?

• 6:54Speaker 04

  I think we're gonna make a family.

• 6:55Andrew Santino?

  Good for you.

• 6:56Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's something I never would've done on my own.

• 6:58Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, you literally can't. Yeah, you actually can't. Yeah, I mean, you could, no, that's not true. You could. You could adopt a kid. You could have a kid with a, uh, anonymous partner and just raise it by yourself. It's a new world, dude.

• 7:09Speaker 04

  Totally. I wouldn't have done that. So, it feels nice to be, it feels nice to...

• 7:15Andrew Santino?

  To find someone you love?

• 7:17Speaker 04

  Yeah, for sure. And sorta had that decided, that was kinda like a pre-qualification.

• 7:22Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 7:22Speaker 04

  And I'm like, alright, let's strap in, let's do it.

• 7:24Andrew Santino?

  Might as well.

• 7:25Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 7:26Andrew Santino?

  I noticed on your arm, let me see your forearm, on your right forearm, is there a Chicago flag on there, huh?

• 7:29Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 7:30Andrew Santino?

  God bless. Cause you were, you were, you raised in Chicago, but not born in Chicago.

• 7:34Speaker 04

  No, I was born in Birmingham, Michigan.

• 7:36Andrew Santino?

  Birmingham, Michigan. And then your parents realized they wanted to go somewhere legitimate.

• 7:40Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 7:40Andrew Santino?

  And give you a real future.

• 7:42Speaker 04

  Yeah, totally.

• 7:42Andrew Santino?

  And so they said, "Let's get him in Chicago."

• 7:43Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 7:44Andrew Santino?

  Did you start music in the Chicago music scene?

• 7:46Speaker 04

  Uh, kinda, yeah. In high school, I was in bands and stuff. Got to, you know, play in the city.

• 7:50Andrew Santino?

  Did you play the Beat Kitchen ever?

• 7:52Speaker 04

  Yeah, many times.

• 7:53Andrew Santino?

  I played there before.

• 7:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's a great, yeah, Subterranean.

• 7:56Andrew Santino?

  Did you ever play Fireside Bowl?

• 7:57Speaker 04

  No, that was the 21, that was like the hard 21+ one.

• 8:00Andrew Santino?

  That's right, yeah, you can't be underage there.

• 8:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, so Beat Kitchen, I got to play underage, Subterranean, uh, yeah, I'm doing my album release show at Metro.

• 8:08Andrew Santino?

  At the Metro?

• 8:09Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 8:10Andrew Santino?

  One of the most famous venues for people that don't know, that's pretty incredible. It's like... That's Chicago's finest.

• 8:15Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 8:16Andrew Santino?

  Did you remember going to see shows as a kid? Did you see a band that got big that you saw when they were pretty small in Chicago? I feel like this, I share this story with a lot of people.

• 8:24Speaker 04

  Yeah, I think like in the, in the pop punk world, especially seeing bands at Metro. Like that was a, that was kind of like a mainstay. Like everyone toured there when I was in high school.

• 8:33Andrew Santino?

  Big time.

• 8:33Speaker 04

  So I saw like Say Anything there before they got really big.

• 8:37Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 8:38Speaker 04

  I saw Death Cat for Cutie in Chicago before they got really big.

• 8:41Andrew Santino?

  Wow.

• 8:42Speaker 04

  But yeah, I think the, the access to seeing live music at really sick concert venues was almost more formative than like being in bands.

• 8:50Andrew Santino?

  Oh yeah, I mean, it's because it gives you this like real kind of viewpoint of, I mean, it's just, it's, it's a reality. You're like, oh, this is A, a possibility if I really want this thing.

• 9:00Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 9:01Andrew Santino?

  And it, and it's tickling your fantasies of like, uh, being a part of that thing. I think, I think, I think going to see stuff as a kid was so much more important to me than it is now. And it's a bummer. I want to go see more stuff now.

• 9:14Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 9:15Andrew Santino?

  But we have stuff.

• 9:16Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 9:16Andrew Santino?

  Shit to do.

• 9:17Speaker 04

  I mean, also like, kind of like, I, I suffer from this thing where it's just like, because I do it for a job, like, kind of like the smokescreen has been eliminated. Like the mysticism of it all, like, I used to be like staying in like concert venues and like look up, sort of like through the fog. Like, these are like gods, you know?

• 9:34Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 9:34Speaker 04

  And then you see the back of a concert venue when you're doing it as your job and like kind of just seeing it. I don't know. It's like makes going to concerts less fun.

• 9:41Andrew Santino?

  Oh dude, I agree. It's the same thing. Like I hate comedy when people are like, oh, do you like stand up? And it's like, I think it's the most disgusting. I hate it more than I've ever hated anything on earth. I loathe it.

• 9:50Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of music these days.

• 9:53Andrew Santino?

  It kind of sucks, right? Music sucks. Yeah. But good music's rad.

• 9:56Speaker 04

  Good music's awesome.

• 9:57Andrew Santino?

  Right. Once in a while I find something that I really like in the comedic space. It's usually for me, to be honest, I'm not, and I'm not kissing ass. It's something like what you do sometimes, like. You know, my, I've lived in stand-up for 20 years, so. It's just different for me, just like you're saying, it's hard to explain, but, um, but when I see something like what you've created, or if I see a, a sketch that's kind of out of my world, um, that would, that I gravitate to, because it's not what I'm used to.

• 10:26Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 10:26Andrew Santino?

  Right? Like, it impresses me because we don't, I don't live in that section of comedy.

• 10:31Speaker 04

  Right.

• 10:32Andrew Santino?

  Right? It's kind of like, some music may impress you because it's not the, your world of music.

• 10:36Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 10:37Andrew Santino?

  You know, something super alternative, you're like, oh, that's pretty rad.

• 10:39Speaker 04

  For sure. Yeah, I feel the same way. It's like the stuff that I can't even like wrap my head around how they were able to do it, because it's just so different than everything that I do. Then that's, that's stuff that gets me really excited.

• 10:50Andrew Santino?

  Favorite band, least favorite band?

• 10:52Speaker 04

  Favorite band right now is Def Leppard.

• 10:54Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, love Def Leppard. So you're getting a return to the old days, huh?

• 10:56Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 10:57Andrew Santino?

  You're going backwards.

• 10:57Speaker 04

  I, I realized that I missed a lot.

• 11:00Andrew Santino?

  You did. Well, you weren't alive.

• 11:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 11:01Andrew Santino?

  So it's like, what can you do, man?

• 11:03Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 11:03Andrew Santino?

  You ever heard of the Beatles? You're gonna love these guys.

• 11:05Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, they're awesome.

• 11:06Andrew Santino?

  They're pretty good.

• 11:07Speaker 04

  Def Leppard's cool because I, I, I think I grew up thinking that they were just in like, like a hair metal band, uh, like a kind of like Poison, or like a bunch of other bands that are like super corny, but if you listen to the album Hysteria, it's pretty, it's pretty awesome. It's a classic.

• 11:23Andrew Santino?

  I understand you saying that you're, you're, you're, you're inclined to think that they were maybe corny, because of what you're maybe shown as a kid.

• 11:30Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 11:30Andrew Santino?

  It's the same way I feel about Kiss.

• 11:32Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 11:32Andrew Santino?

  Like, I loathe Kiss.

• 11:34Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 11:34Andrew Santino?

  But I do understand that there is a very significantly large group of people who are like, no, no, they made good music. I just hated the characters.

• 11:42Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 11:42Andrew Santino?

  I didn't like that. It like pissed me off.

• 11:44Speaker 04

  You know what, growing, I think my 30s have taught me that like, a lot of stuff that's been really popular for a long time is actually super awesome.

• 11:53Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, it's pretty good. Yeah, there's a reason for it.

• 11:55Speaker 04

  Like Hawaii.

• 11:56Andrew Santino?

  The, the, the state of Hawaii?

• 11:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, fucking rocks.

• 11:59Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, you've, okay, so you hated Hawaii?

• 12:01Speaker 04

  I was just like, I didn't hate Hawaii, but I think I just like had an image in my mind, it's like, this is just where like, like, white dudes go to play golf.

• 12:10Andrew Santino?

  And that is true.

• 12:11Speaker 04

  And, yeah.

• 12:12Andrew Santino?

  That is remarkably true.

• 12:13Speaker 04

  And it's like maybe not gonna be like the coolest place to go on vacation. Uh, cuz it's not like, super adventurous or out there or whatever. Uh, I don't know, I had like a cool guy thing about it.

• 12:24Andrew Santino?

  Right.

• 12:24Speaker 04

  And then, I went to Hawaii for the first time last year and I was like, immediately like, damn this is the sickest place ever.

• 12:31Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, that's kinda what happens.

• 12:32Speaker 04

  I was like, what else do rich people like? This is like, I gotta like, figure out, I don't know, yeah.

• 12:38Andrew Santino?

  What else do these rich people enjoy? I think I might enjoy some of this as well.

• 12:41Speaker 04

  I think so, yeah, yeah.

• 12:42Andrew Santino?

  I'm gonna, I'm gonna talk to you and a year from now he's gonna be flying private. He's like, I thought that was whack. It turns out it's awesome. That's, this, yeah.

• 12:49Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 12:50Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, not everything that rich people like is cool, but a lot of times when you dabble in the things, get the, that they do.

• 12:54Speaker 04

  Massively popular things.

• 12:56Andrew Santino?

  It is massively popular. There's a reason. It's pretty incredible.

• 12:59Speaker 04

  Disneyland is fun.

• 13:01Andrew Santino?

  Uh, that one I'm gonna fight you on. Yeah, that one's, that one's insane. I'm not going there.

• 13:05Speaker 04

  I, I don't, I love it.

• 13:06Andrew Santino?

  I'm forty-one years old.

• 13:07Speaker 04

  When's the last time you've been?

• 13:08Andrew Santino?

  With my nieces a decade ago.

• 13:10Speaker 04

  Oh, gotcha. Maybe it's changed.

• 13:12Andrew Santino?

  I have to be with a child to go to a thing like that.

• 13:14Speaker 04

  Gotcha. I think a child would ruin my experience at a thing like that.

• 13:17Andrew Santino?

  Interesting. That's good. Well, I'm glad you're gonna have a kid with this new wifey. You're gonna love this, dude. They're gonna fuck up all of your shit.

• 13:24Speaker 04

  Yeah, maybe, maybe.

• 13:25Andrew Santino?

  I hope you don't like anything that you own, cuz they're gonna, it's theirs.

• 13:28Speaker 04

  No, I don't like anything I own. That's something about me too. I don't have any stuff that means fucking anything to me.

• 13:34Andrew Santino?

  Good.

• 13:34Speaker 04

  Um, that's cool. And I, I, basically I'm just really into hiking and like, looking, looking for shit outside. Which I think is pretty good for like toddler, toddler.

• 13:45Andrew Santino?

  Toddler stuff, expl- anything in the exploration world.

• 13:47Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'm excited to do that and like see it through a new lens, you know?

• 13:50Andrew Santino?

  I like that, dude. I, I, I wanna see the, I wanna see this journey for you.

• 13:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, sure, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll document it on, on Instagram. Yeah, it'll be my whole life.

• 13:58Andrew Santino?

  As you do. Now, did you start making a living on Instagram and TikTok and stuff and that was able, that was giving you the ability to jump ship?

• 14:06Speaker 04

  It was, uh, it was kind of like, I was always like, I was always just like gone for the thing that I knew that could pay me. Um, so the first thing was music. So I was like working that shit job. And then I was able to secure like an indie deal that I got in advance for. And the advance was only seventeen thousand dollars, but I was only making thirty-one thousand dollars at the time, so I was like, okay, I can. You responsibly leave, but I can leave and figure out how to make up the extra twelve.

• 14:37Andrew Santino?

  Right.

• 14:38Speaker 04

  And so I left the job and then covid hit right away. And so then I was just like crashing at my friend's house. Through that and then we were making TikTok videos every day. The TikTok thing blew up and then as the seventeen grand was sort of dwindling. Ad deals started coming in.

• 14:57Andrew Santino?

  Amazing.

• 14:58Speaker 04

  And that was before like companies like really knew what was up with TikTok. Which I think now they like maybe think like the juice isn't worth the squeeze. But on the early days, they were like kind of showing it out.

• 15:10Andrew Santino?

  Oh, well, yeah, they were because they were.

• 15:12Speaker 04

  They didn't like know what it was.

• 15:13Andrew Santino?

  They thought this was gonna be the thing.

• 15:14Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 15:15Andrew Santino?

  And it is to a degree, it's just now it's inundate now there's a lot of noise.

• 15:18Speaker 04

  For sure. But I hit it at the right time.

• 15:21Andrew Santino?

  You did.

• 15:22Speaker 04

  And then I signed at the talent agency right as I was doing it. So I actually had people like brokering those deals for me, which is really cool. It's so funny when you have someone else doing that for you, the person who is kind of just like, well, I guess we have to do it. I don't know, it just like legitimized this thing in a way that's still totally fake, but.

• 15:39Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, it's bullshit, but it's it's adult bullshit.

• 15:41Speaker 04

  Exactly, so I started living off that. That sort of replaced the music thing and then covid started dwindling down and then the music thing started hitting back up. And then I signed up major label deal and then.

• 15:55Andrew Santino?

  Who's the label?

• 15:56Speaker 04

  Capital Records.

• 15:57Andrew Santino?

  Big.

• 15:57Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 15:58Andrew Santino?

  Big building, did it take you to the building?

• 16:00Speaker 04

  No, the building was under construction.

• 16:02Andrew Santino?

  What a crock of shit.

• 16:03Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'm happy about that because I don't like that. I don't like the.

• 16:07Andrew Santino?

  Pump and circumstance?

• 16:07Speaker 04

  I don't like the big conference room with like a bunch of, you know, twenty three year olds.

• 16:12Andrew Santino?

  Don't say juice, don't say it dude, I, did you see him almost say it? He almost said it, I watched him almost say it, that's crazy.

• 16:19Speaker 04

  Twenty three year olds.

• 16:20Andrew Santino?

  Uh huh dude, yeah, they like twenty three year olds, I get it dude, gross, cut it out dude. This guy's fighting the Illuminati today, no, I get what you're saying, you don't like the whole show.

• 16:30Speaker 04

  I don't.

• 16:31Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, it's a lot.

• 16:31Speaker 04

  Cause I worked, I worked at ICM long enough to realize that it's meaningless.

• 16:37Andrew Santino?

  Right.

• 16:37Speaker 04

  You know?

• 16:37Andrew Santino?

  You mean everything, life?

• 16:39Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 16:40Andrew Santino?

  Everything is pretty meaningless.

• 16:41Speaker 04

  A lot of the, just like a lot of the. Showbiz stuff. I don't know, it's like disheartening to see how things work and why they work.

• 16:48Andrew Santino?

  Well, I think it's just because you're in this business, right? I would argue that all businesses are meaningless and bullshit.

• 16:54Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 16:54Andrew Santino?

  You couldn't name me a business that your friends do that's worth anything unless it's helping humans.

• 17:00Speaker 04

  Right.

• 17:01Andrew Santino?

  Unless it's literally helping humans.

• 17:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, if you get to the bottom of everything, everything's pretty bleak.

• 17:04Andrew Santino?

  Most things are bullshit.

• 17:05Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 17:06Andrew Santino?

  Right? Yeah. Insurance is bullshit. Sales is bullshit. Marketing's bullshit.

• 17:09Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 17:09Andrew Santino?

  It's all just like a spinning wheel of capitalism unless you're helping humans.

• 17:14Speaker 04

  Insurance, though, feels like bullshit going in, so at least you know.

• 17:19Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, they're all going right. It's like Los Angeles. We don't pretend.

• 17:22Speaker 04

  No one's getting their dreams broken by like a bad job in insurance, you know?

• 17:24Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, we don't pretend to not be fake. When someone's like, everyone in LA is fake, you're like, yeah, but we know, but you know that.

• 17:29Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 17:29Andrew Santino?

  You know, we're, LA is insurance.

• 17:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, exactly.

• 17:32Andrew Santino?

  You know going in it's awful.

• 17:34Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 17:34Andrew Santino?

  Big deal. Get over it.

• 17:35Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 17:36Andrew Santino?

  Right?

• 17:36Speaker 04

  How do you like living here?

• 17:37Andrew Santino?

  It's dog shit.

• 17:39Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 17:39Andrew Santino?

  No, no, no, I like it. No, dude, I've been here for, I've been here, like I said, for 20 years and, um, you know, my time has come to an end.

• 17:47Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 17:47Andrew Santino?

  I've been saying this for a little bit too long now, but I have to have an exit strategy with my wife. Like, we're working out a way that we can leave.

• 17:54Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 17:55Andrew Santino?

  Uh, because people are like, just fucking move. You're like, well, if anything was that easy.

• 17:59Speaker 04

  Right.

• 17:59Andrew Santino?

  There's a lot going on. So like, um, I do think we put a, we put a timestamp on when we're gonna go and I, and we are gonna go eventually.

• 18:07Speaker 04

  Where are you gonna go?

• 18:08Andrew Santino?

  I don't know, man. And even if I did, I wouldn't tell you.

• 18:10Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 18:10Andrew Santino?

  You know, because I don't trust you. No, I think we don't know you. We don't really know, you know? We get pitched a lot of different stuff. We hunt for places. We have a few places we really, really like.

• 18:19Speaker 04

  Where do you like?

• 18:20Andrew Santino?

  I can't, again, I get, there's no chance I'll tell you, dude. I'll tell you. How about the, I'll tell you off camera where we like.

• 18:25Speaker 04

  Sure.

• 18:25Andrew Santino?

  Um, but I just feel like there's just, we want, we want a super escape from this world because we've lived here for a while.

• 18:32Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 18:33Andrew Santino?

  And I love LA. I do.

• 18:34Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 18:35Andrew Santino?

  I'm a big LA fan.

• 18:36Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 18:36Andrew Santino?

  But, um, you know, I think like I, I, I, like I took the, I've taken a lot of rides and I'm kind of like. You know, I know where this one goes.

• 18:44Speaker 04

  Sure, yeah.

• 18:45Andrew Santino?

  So, I kinda am ready for something a little bit different, you know? A little bit unique, but then again, I wake up, I walk the dog and I drink a cup of coffee in the sun in the morning and it's fucking rad.

• 18:53Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 18:53Andrew Santino?

  It's pretty rad.

• 18:54Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 18:55Andrew Santino?

  A lot of, what did you say? A lot of things are super popular, turn out to be pretty fucking rad.

• 18:58Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 18:59Andrew Santino?

  L.A.'s, you know, everyone hates on it, but you're like, it's pretty fucking rad.

• 19:02Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 19:02Andrew Santino?

  You have the beach, you have the mountains, you know, it's a short drive up through the canyons to get completely away. You can go out to the desert in an hour and a half. I mean, you... One day I went up to the mountains and then went down to the desert and had a, a snow, a snow sand day.

• 19:16Speaker 04

  Nice.

• 19:16Andrew Santino?

  Pretty incredible. And I know guys that do a snow surf day. Where they go skiing in the morning and then they make it to, or no, vice versa. They, they surf in the morning and they ski by the afternoon.

• 19:25Speaker 04

  Yeah, I mean, the access to everything is crazy.

• 19:27Andrew Santino?

  It's pretty incredible.

• 19:28Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 19:28Andrew Santino?

  It's better than Chicago in terms of weather wise.

• 19:31Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 19:31Andrew Santino?

  But Chicago has a lot more culture that I miss.

• 19:33Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 19:34Andrew Santino?

  People, friendships, community, that kinda stuff.

• 19:37Speaker 04

  Yeah. The white people culture in Chicago is unparalleled.

• 19:40Andrew Santino?

  The white people culture? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 19:42Speaker 04

  There's no, just like, like L.A., like, the black culture in L.A.

• 19:47Andrew Santino?

  Careful?

• 19:47Speaker 04

  Insane. Awesome.

• 19:48Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, okay, I was just gonna say.

• 19:50Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 19:50Andrew Santino?

  Twice, I thought he was gonna go down a dark road there.

• 19:52Speaker 04

  No, no, no. Korean culture, amazing. That Latino culture, culture, awesome.

• 19:58Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, there I'm with you, yeah.

• 19:59Speaker 04

  Yeah. White people culture in L.A. specifically, not the best, not the strongest.

• 20:04Andrew Santino?

  They don't really have one here.

• 20:04Speaker 04

  Right. Yeah, yeah. It's identityless.

• 20:06Andrew Santino?

  Right. Everyone's just, so there is, right. You're, what you're saying is, what I hear PDU S.A. saying is that white lives matter is what he's saying. And he wants to bring it back to a white, did you hear that? He said...

• 20:17Speaker 04

  No, no, no, no, no, no.

• 20:18Andrew Santino?

  What he said was, he wants a white dominated culture again, to we will rise is what he said.

• 20:23Speaker 04

  No, I'm just saying, I appreciate all the, like, all the different cultures in L.A., but I'm not, I'm not trying to like roll up and like blow up the spot, like with my friends. You know what I mean?

• 20:32Andrew Santino?

  There is no, there is no white culture here, yes. The, okay, so the white culture in Chicago is what to you?

• 20:39Speaker 04

  It's like, the best sport, sports culture I've ever seen.

• 20:42Andrew Santino?

  Yes, yeah.

• 20:43Speaker 04

  Some of the best bar culture I've ever seen.

• 20:44Andrew Santino?

  Correct.

• 20:47Speaker 04

  And that's kinda it. Just watching sports and getting drunk.

• 20:50Andrew Santino?

  Sports and drunk, yeah.

• 20:51Speaker 04

  Well, like, that's, oh, what else we got?

• 20:52Andrew Santino?

  No, there's not much else to life, honestly. We talked a little bit before the show.

• 20:55Speaker 04

  That's fun.

• 20:56Andrew Santino?

  You're not hav- we're not having anything to drink today. I'm a little, I got to dry out.

• 21:00Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 21:00Andrew Santino?

  People, you know, people are always, "How come you don't have a cocktail on the show?" Well, dude, I gotta dry out sometimes.

• 21:06Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 21:07Andrew Santino?

  And I, you know, I had a little bit of a run in New York and, you know, we had a little party with family. And one thing leads to another, and they own the bar, and it's like, when they own the bar.

• 21:18Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 21:19Andrew Santino?

  It's, you're done, you're done.

• 21:21Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 21:21Andrew Santino?

  When someone you know owns the bar.

• 21:23Speaker 04

  Yeah. New York is tough in particular, because it's just like, I mean, it's so, like, stimuli, like, overload, like, I feel like. And the bars are so cool, and they're like drawing you in, and it's so loud. I'm just like, you have to get really fucked up there, like, every night.

• 21:39Andrew Santino?

  Yep.

• 21:39Speaker 04

  And it's always with a meal, and so I just ended up having acid reflux for like 11 days.

• 21:44Andrew Santino?

  I got it right now.

• 21:45Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's awful.

• 21:46Andrew Santino?

  I'm on Tums, yeah.

• 21:46Speaker 04

  And I just wanna, I'd end up just like crawling out of there. I'm never leaving New York, like, wanting to stay.

• 21:51Andrew Santino?

  Right.

• 21:52Speaker 04

  Any longer.

• 21:52Andrew Santino?

  That's why you can't have a morning flight from New York. You gotta get an afternoon flight when you leave.

• 21:56Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 21:57Andrew Santino?

  Because you need a couple of extra hours of, let me pull my shit together.

• 22:00Speaker 04

  Totally, totally.

• 22:01Andrew Santino?

  Hangover, hangover flights are the worst thing in the world.

• 22:03Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 22:04Andrew Santino?

  Having to fly hungover. I've had to do that from Chicago a couple of times.

• 22:08Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 22:08Andrew Santino?

  Just really awful.

• 22:09Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 22:10Andrew Santino?

  Really awful.

• 22:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, I get, started to get really heady about it, too. I had, not until now did I start thinking about how absolutely insane flying is, just like being in an airplane.

• 22:19Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 22:20Speaker 04

  It's really nuts.

• 22:21Andrew Santino?

  It's absurd, yeah.

• 22:22Speaker 04

  And I like, I can't believe people have been doing it for that long and not really talking about how crazy it is.

• 22:31Speaker 04

  Like, in the 60s, I don't know, it's just so normal, but it's so not normal.

• 22:34Andrew Santino?

  You're thinking about a time when, like, there was way more accidents, you know?

• 22:37Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 22:38Andrew Santino?

  Like, that was the most ballsy shit. When you used to fly back in the day, it was a little bit more of like a, we'll see.

• 22:42Speaker 04

  It just doesn't make sense. The whole thing doesn't make sense. I don't know, it's been kinda tripping me out.

• 22:47Andrew Santino?

  From a scientific point of view, it does make perfect sense.

• 22:49Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 22:49Andrew Santino?

  Right, but I know what you're saying.

• 22:51Speaker 04

  I've flown a paper airplane before.

• 22:52Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, you get it, you get it, you understand lift, and yeah, you get that, but, I get it.

• 22:56Speaker 04

  It's fucking like, this thing is heavy.

• 22:58Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, it's heavy. How does it stay up?

• 23:00Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 23:01Andrew Santino?

  How does a boat float? I get it.

• 23:02Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 23:02Andrew Santino?

  I get what wrecks your brain.

• 23:04Speaker 04

  Yeah, but then I-

• 23:04Andrew Santino?

  Way too you see Mission Impossible.

• 23:05Speaker 04

  I pretend like I'm on a literal spaceship, and that the air is just word, in space. Which is technically

• 23:13Andrew Santino?

  You are.

• 23:13Speaker 04

  True.

• 23:14Andrew Santino?

  Do you smoke weed?

• 23:15Speaker 04

  Uh, yeah.

• 23:15Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 23:15Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 23:16Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 23:16Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 23:17Andrew Santino?

  I got it.

• 23:18Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 23:21Speaker 02

  In here, we pour whiskey.

• 23:24Andrew Santino?

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• 26:21Andrew Santino?

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• 27:41Andrew Santino?

  Do you get high before you fly?

• 27:42Speaker 04

  No, no, no. I get high by myself at night.

• 27:45Andrew Santino?

  Wife no, wife no smoke?

• 27:47Speaker 04

  Uh, no, she doesn't.

• 27:48Andrew Santino?

  Me wife no smoke. So you smoke alone?

• 27:50Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 27:51Andrew Santino?

  And does she enjoy that part of your life? Or is that something that's like, you do that, I don't like it?

• 27:56Speaker 04

  It's, uh, no, it's fine.

• 27:58Andrew Santino?

  She doesn't care?

• 27:58Speaker 04

  She doesn't care.

• 27:59Andrew Santino?

  Right.

• 27:59Speaker 04

  Yeah, kind of makes no difference.

• 28:01Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, I mean, as long as it doesn't change you as a person.

• 28:04Speaker 04

  No, no.

• 28:04Andrew Santino?

  And it doesn't?

• 28:05Speaker 04

  No, no.

• 28:06Andrew Santino?

  Do you smoke every day?

• 28:07Speaker 04

  Uh, when I have it, I'm kind of just like, if something's right in front of me, I'll do it. Uh, but if it's not in front of me, then I'll forget that it exists.

• 28:14Andrew Santino?

  Uh, I love that. This sounds like an AA meeting.

• 28:16Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 28:17Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, I mean, if it's in front of me, I'm gonna consume it, there's no doubt. Whether it's drugs or, or alcohol. I understand this feeling.

• 28:22Speaker 04

  Kind of true.

• 28:23Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, if it's right there, it's tough.

• 28:24Speaker 04

  With drugs and stuff too, it's just like if I, and it's, this is easy in LA, cause it's not, it's, LA for me is not a party town.

• 28:31Andrew Santino?

  No, it's not. Well, you, you have to go make it a party town.

• 28:34Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 28:34Andrew Santino?

  It's not inherently a party town.

• 28:35Speaker 04

  Exactly. And I don't, I don't make things a party. Like, I don't seek it out. But if the party is right in front of me.

• 28:41Andrew Santino?

  It's gotta come to you.

• 28:42Speaker 04

  Whatever it is, I'll, I'll, I'll usually do it.

• 28:44Andrew Santino?

  Uh, anything?

• 28:46Speaker 04

  Not anything.

• 28:46Andrew Santino?

  What do you say no to?

• 28:47Speaker 04

  Um, I would, I would say no to doing heroin for sure.

• 28:51Andrew Santino?

  Really?

• 28:51Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 28:52Andrew Santino?

  Alright.

• 28:53Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 28:54Andrew Santino?

  Don't, uh, yeah, we have it. We thought.

• 28:56Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 28:57Andrew Santino?

  We didn't know. I saw the shirt, I was like, he's gonna be down.

• 29:00Speaker 04

  Oh, no.

• 29:00Andrew Santino?

  But he's not, dude.

• 29:01Speaker 04

  No.

• 29:02Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, H, H is tough. That's, I don't think you're getting past H a lot. I don't think, I've never been to a party where someone's like, dude, you wanna ride?

• 29:08Speaker 04

  No.

• 29:08Andrew Santino?

  You wanna, you wanna catch the horse?

• 29:09Speaker 04

  I think doing prescription painkillers recreationally was a really, really popular thing in...

• 29:15Andrew Santino?

  And those are opioids.

• 29:16Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 29:17Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, it's pretty similar.

• 29:18Speaker 04

  So I've done that before, but I reacted negatively to being high on narcotics, which is really great for me. But I couldn't pee when I was on Vicodin. Uh, like it would paralyze my bladder.

• 29:31Andrew Santino?

  Really?

• 29:31Speaker 04

  Yeah. I just like, couldn't do it. So I was like, no matter how good I feel, like I'm, I'm not dealing with this.

• 29:35Andrew Santino?

  You physically, you felt like you had to pee, but you couldn't pee?

• 29:38Speaker 04

  Yeah. I like, literally like, I think like my urethra is paralyzed.

• 29:42Andrew Santino?

  Oh, wow.

• 29:42Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 29:43Andrew Santino?

  Good name for a band.

• 29:44Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 29:44Andrew Santino?

  Paralyzed urethra.

• 29:46Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 29:46Andrew Santino?

  What's up, we're paralyzed urethra! What's up, Hokeygan?

• 29:49Speaker 04

  But I, I do think it's a blessing, you know?

• 29:51Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 29:52Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 29:52Andrew Santino?

  Get you away from that.

• 29:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, totally.

• 29:54Andrew Santino?

  So not every day smoke weed, but every day.

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• 30:32Speaker 04

  Every day that I have it.

• 30:33Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, so that's every day.

• 30:34Speaker 04

  Every night, yeah.

• 30:36Andrew Santino?

  Every night.

• 30:36Speaker 04

  That I have it.

• 30:37Andrew Santino?

  No edibles?

• 30:38Speaker 04

  Uh, no, cuz I like to have control.

• 30:42Andrew Santino?

  Me too.

• 30:42Speaker 04

  Through like mechanisms, like vessels that just like make sense to me.

• 30:45Andrew Santino?

  Right.

• 30:46Speaker 04

  You know, just like I'll take like three, and I'll just take like three hits of a joint and like then like blast off. Like I don't have a high tolerance for that or anything.

• 30:53Andrew Santino?

  No one does anymore. The weed is made joking with, you know, it's comical at this point.

• 30:57Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 30:57Andrew Santino?

  It's like so absurd. I've, when I was a kid, I used to be able to smoke a joint to myself. And that was like a fun thing to do.

• 31:03Speaker 04

  For sure.

• 31:04Andrew Santino?

  If I smoke a whole joint to myself now, it's, I'm in a bad way.

• 31:08Speaker 04

  Well, it's also like something happened where it's like when I would smoke weed in high school, like the only thing that you have to worry about are just like your parents and the cops. And you don't have enough knowledge to know how weird the world is to like freak you out. And then this thing happens where you just like learn about shit and you smoke weed uh, as an adult and you get really high and you start worrying about every, you start worrying about your parents and the cops in a completely different existential way.

• 31:36Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, especially because my dad is a cop. Then it gets even more scary. No, he's not, he's not a cop.

• 31:40Speaker 04

  But it's just, you know, it's just like, oh, there's more things to be, feel weird about.

• 31:44Andrew Santino?

  Parents and cops.

• 31:45Speaker 04

  Your world is so small.

• 31:46Andrew Santino?

  You think about, how do airplanes fly?

• 31:49Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 31:50Andrew Santino?

  That's scarier.

• 31:50Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 31:51Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, physics and mechanisms and so much could go wrong.

• 31:55Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 31:55Andrew Santino?

  That plane just crashed in India.

• 31:56Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 31:57Andrew Santino?

  It's crazy.

• 31:58Speaker 04

  Nuts.

• 31:58Andrew Santino?

  That's fucking nuts, dude. And one guy lived.

• 32:00Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 32:01Andrew Santino?

  Did you see that guy?

• 32:01Speaker 04

  I did.

• 32:02Andrew Santino?

  He looked fine.

• 32:03Speaker 04

  He, yeah.

• 32:03Andrew Santino?

  It was kinda wild. I was like, this guy does not look like he got into a plane fucking crash.

• 32:07Speaker 04

  Yeah, I don't know.

• 32:08Andrew Santino?

  He was speaking coherently. He was by the exit door and one... How guilty would you feel if you're the only guy that lived?

• 32:15Speaker 04

  I, guilty. I don't know if guilty is the right.

• 32:19Andrew Santino?

  Guilt wouldn't weigh heavy on you, that like, why you? Why did you have to, why did you get to live and everybody had to die?

• 32:24Speaker 04

  For some reason, that doesn't pop up.

• 32:26Andrew Santino?

  Wow, so you're super self-indulgent.

• 32:28Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 32:30Andrew Santino?

  So self-involved, huh?

• 32:31Speaker 04

  I would just be so freaked out in general that I don't think I would be capable of feeling a actual feeling.

• 32:37Andrew Santino?

  Of guilt because you survived?

• 32:39Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 32:39Andrew Santino?

  Cause survivor's guilt, you know, this is a real thing.

• 32:41Speaker 04

  Yeah, for sure.

• 32:42Andrew Santino?

  People feel awful when they get in a car accident and someone else dies and they live.

• 32:46Speaker 04

  You know, who's to say? Who's to say?

• 32:48Andrew Santino?

  You are, you can. I would feel awful. I, I don't know.

• 32:51Speaker 05

  I'd believe I was dead.

• 32:53Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, he died.

• 32:54Speaker 05

  My brain processing death.

• 32:56Speaker 04

  I already believe I'm dead.

• 32:57Andrew Santino?

  You think you're dead?

• 32:58Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 32:59Andrew Santino?

  I've never seen you more alive.

• 33:01Speaker 04

  Oh, cool. That's good. That's good for me to hear.

• 33:03Andrew Santino?

  Why do you think you died already?

• 33:04Speaker 04

  Um.

• 33:05Andrew Santino?

  Because life is so good that you can't believe it?

• 33:07Speaker 04

  Sometimes.

• 33:07Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 33:08Speaker 04

  I think that like my life was going real bad and.

• 33:12Andrew Santino?

  It was going real bad?

• 33:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, just.

• 33:14Andrew Santino?

  Like you mean work, your shitty job?

• 33:16Speaker 04

  I couldn't get out of this fucking like rut that I was in and I was like, I had, I'd committed to that, you know?

• 33:23Andrew Santino?

  You were gonna be a rut guy?

• 33:24Speaker 04

  Yeah, I was just like, I'm gonna be a loser forever.

• 33:26Andrew Santino?

  It's kinda rad though, too.

• 33:27Speaker 04

  A little bit, yeah. I think the acceptance of it kinda turned me around. But I got COVID really, really bad, like one of the first cases of anyone that I knew, like straight up like January before it was like.

• 33:38Andrew Santino?

  Before it was a hit?

• 33:39Speaker 04

  Yeah, before it was a hit.

• 33:40Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, you liked that band before anybody else knew it?

• 33:42Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 33:42Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 33:43Speaker 04

  And then, uh, I had it for like 10 days and there was certain times when I was going to bed and I was like, I'm not gonna wake up and that's fine.

• 33:52Andrew Santino?

  You feel like you were gonna die?

• 33:53Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 33:54Andrew Santino?

  Wow.

• 33:54Speaker 04

  And like I, like we weren't, it wasn't in the news, I wasn't talking about it and no one was talking about it.

• 33:58Andrew Santino?

  You just felt so sick.

• 34:00Speaker 04

  I just felt so sick, like could not, I was like, this is something different, but I didn't know what it was and then I got over it. And then my life started going great.

• 34:09Andrew Santino?

  Wow.

• 34:10Speaker 04

  Great. So I think there is part of me that thinks I may have like died in my sleep and like shifted timelines or whatever.

• 34:15Andrew Santino?

  Or it's exactly what you needed to get you back on track.

• 34:18Speaker 04

  Totally.

• 34:18Andrew Santino?

  Thank you, China. Can you say that to the camera?

• 34:20Speaker 04

  Thank you, China.

• 34:21Andrew Santino?

  Thank you, China, for all that you've done for us. You scared us into oblivion and you gave PD USA a career.

• 34:27Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 34:27Andrew Santino?

  I mean.

• 34:28Speaker 04

  I mean, not, no.

• 34:30Andrew Santino?

  You should go pay homage. You should go back to, uh.

• 34:32Speaker 04

  Covid was a big win for me.

• 34:35Andrew Santino?

  Covid was a big W.

• 34:36Speaker 04

  Oh, my God.

• 34:37Andrew Santino?

  A lot of people took a loss. You took a big win.

• 34:38Speaker 04

  Big time. Nothing like, it was everything. It was everything.

• 34:42Andrew Santino?

  Damn, repping Wuhan hard, dude, huh?

• 34:45Speaker 04

  I just, I don't know. I'm a real like distracted, like thought-loopy, neurotic guy that's really affected by my environment.

• 34:54Andrew Santino?

  Right.

• 34:54Speaker 04

  And so it's like, as soon as I knew like what it was gonna be, and like what was gonna happen, and it was gonna be like that for a while, and just like quiet, and everyone's kinda standing aside, and no one's gonna work, I like, I was kinda like, oh damn, I'm gonna like absolutely crush this.

• 35:08Andrew Santino?

  You were stoked for that.

• 35:10Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 35:11Andrew Santino?

  That's cool. Dude, it did help. I mean, it helped, you know, me and Bobby Lee's show Bad Friends grew because of Covid, because people were at home. People were watching it.

• 35:18Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 35:18Andrew Santino?

  People were just inside, and we were providing another form of entertainment, like, just like what you did. It was like, here's a form of entertainment you can watch every single week to get through a shitty week if you're having a shitty week.

• 35:28Speaker 04

  Right.

• 35:28Andrew Santino?

  And we did it to kinda keep ourselves entertained.

• 35:30Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 35:30Andrew Santino?

  It was like him and I wanted to do a project together, and then we were just like, well, great, we can just do this the whole time that we can't go work anyway.

• 35:38Speaker 04

  Right.

• 35:38Andrew Santino?

  So we might as well create new entertainment on the internet.

• 35:40Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 35:41Andrew Santino?

  And it just kind of worked, you know. So I also thank Wuhan. Thank you, Wuhan.

• 35:44Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 35:45Andrew Santino?

  Thank you, Wuhan. Very much appreciated.

• 35:47Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 35:48Andrew Santino?

  Okay, be honest, as a Chicago boy, um, you see these, look at these, uh, these.

• 35:53Speaker 04

  Cool.

• 35:53Andrew Santino?

  Couple, isn't that nice?

• 35:54Speaker 04

  It's the best, I think it's the best flag.

• 35:56Andrew Santino?

  It's the best flag of all the flags.

• 35:58Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 35:58Andrew Santino?

  It's the greatest flag.

• 36:00Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 36:00Andrew Santino?

  Uh, it's got a lot of white in it.

• 36:02Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 36:02Andrew Santino?

  It's, uh.

• 36:03Speaker 04

  Oh, no, no, no.

• 36:03Andrew Santino?

  No, no, no, no, no, no. That's Trump said that. I didn't say any of that shit. It's a, it is a great, it's such a great city, although the never-ending debate, this, this, this asinine debate about.

• 36:16Andrew Santino?

  You know, deep dish pizza.

• 36:17Speaker 04

  Mm hmm.

• 36:18Andrew Santino?

  Do you like it?

• 36:18Speaker 04

  I do, very much, yeah.

• 36:20Andrew Santino?

  Do you, do you like tavern style pizza? You know? Square cut, round tavern style, thin crust? That's Chicago. That's actually Chicago pizza.

• 36:29Speaker 04

  That's Chicago, I mean, I, I'm like Lou Malnati's and I like.

• 36:32Andrew Santino?

  You're a big Lou's guy.

• 36:32Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 36:33Andrew Santino?

  No Giordano's for you, right?

• 36:35Speaker 04

  Lou's all the way.

• 36:36Andrew Santino?

  And then Pizzeria Uno, Pizza Uno was the thing that everyone kind of pushed on me outside of Chicago. People would ask about it. I was like, we didn't even like that shit as a kid.

• 36:43Speaker 04

  Right, yeah.

• 36:43Andrew Santino?

  I didn't even give a fuck about it.

• 36:44Speaker 04

  I get the same thing.

• 36:45Andrew Santino?

  It was in the frozen aisle.

• 36:47Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 36:47Andrew Santino?

  That's how I saw it in my mind.

• 36:48Speaker 04

  These days it's loser, Pequod's and like that.

• 36:51Andrew Santino?

  Pequod's is the best. Well, Pequod's, you can get tavern style pizza.

• 36:53Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 36:53Andrew Santino?

  But you never get it. You like the deep.

• 36:55Speaker 04

  I like the deep dish, yeah.

• 36:56Andrew Santino?

  Well, you're skinny, you can handle it.

• 36:57Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 36:58Andrew Santino?

  Wait till you get fat, dude. Wait till you become a fat lazy dad.

• 37:00Speaker 04

  I'm trying, I'm trying to, I've been trying to put on weight my entire life. I just started taking creatine.

• 37:05Andrew Santino?

  That's cute, dude.

• 37:06Speaker 04

  And using ChatGPT to work out.

• 37:08Andrew Santino?

  What is it telling you?

• 37:10Speaker 04

  Everything good. It's fucking awesome.

• 37:12Andrew Santino?

  You're just saying, tell me what to do today?

• 37:14Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 37:14Andrew Santino?

  And then it tells you what to do?

• 37:15Speaker 04

  I told it my goal is like what I want, I was like, I want to get to like one seventy by like X amount of time. And this is what like I've kind of been doing, like how should I like dial in my routine? And it's got me on a six day a week regimen and I'm sore and it's working.

• 37:30Andrew Santino?

  So you're working out every day?

• 37:32Speaker 04

  Uh, six days a week, yeah.

• 37:33Andrew Santino?

  That's almost every day.

• 37:34Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 37:34Andrew Santino?

  Give or take. I mean, God's day, you gotta take off. Cause you're going to church every Sunday, yeah?

• 37:37Speaker 04

  Exactly, yeah. I do three on, three, three on, one off.

• 37:41Andrew Santino?

  Three on, one off?

• 37:42Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 37:42Andrew Santino?

  Wow.

• 37:43Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 37:43Andrew Santino?

  Are you doing cardio? Are you doing weightlifting? What are you doing?

• 37:46Speaker 04

  Weightlifting, like a push day, pull day, and then a leg day.

• 37:48Andrew Santino?

  Damn, dog, you're going, you're doing it.

• 37:50Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 37:50Andrew Santino?

  Somebody wants to be buff daddy, huh?

• 37:52Speaker 04

  Cause I trust the fucking AI.

• 37:55Andrew Santino?

  You trust the AI?

• 37:56Speaker 04

  I really do. It's doing me right.

• 37:59Andrew Santino?

  You think this is potentially dangerous for our future or this is all good? Who cares?

• 38:03Speaker 04

  Sure, but like, I'm not, I can't do anything about it, so I might as well just get my body right, you know?

• 38:07Andrew Santino?

  I know, I had the same conversation with my physical therapist this morning. We talked about this when we were working out. I was like, cause he's like, why did you just search that? You could just ask ChatGPT. And I thought, I don't know, man, I just feel, feel like I'm doing analog.

• 38:19Speaker 04

  I'm.

• 38:20Andrew Santino?

  I can't go digital yet. I just can't go all the fucking way. Something about it scares me. I mean, I know it's real, it's already here, I can't. But there's something about it, it's like saying, um. I know I can do nothing about it.

• 38:33Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 38:33Andrew Santino?

  But if, but my little part makes me happy, right? Okay, how about this? You're never gonna change the climate. You know when somebody's like, climate change is real and

• 38:41Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 38:41Andrew Santino?

  global warming, and you're like, sure dude.

• 38:43Speaker 04

  Right.

• 38:44Andrew Santino?

  You'd have to talk to fucking ExxonMobil to help out.

• 38:46Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 38:47Andrew Santino?

  You'd have to stop the, the, the, the trillions of pounds of waste that are being foisted into the air.

• 38:54Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 38:54Andrew Santino?

  I don't think I'm gonna change it.

• 38:55Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 38:56Andrew Santino?

  But, but I still fucking recycle.

• 38:57Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 38:58Andrew Santino?

  Do you know what I mean?

• 38:58Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 38:59Andrew Santino?

  That's how I feel about ChatGPT. I'm like, I, I, I know it's already there, but it's like, I still don't wanna do it. I still, I'm still not in.

• 39:05Speaker 04

  I think I'm like, this is so obviously not, this is it, it's over.

• 39:11Andrew Santino?

  Oh, this is, you, you don't think it's over?

• 39:12Speaker 04

  Oh, no, I think like, life, life is over. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm just gonna like, get, like, really good at cooking and try and get jacked.

• 39:19Andrew Santino?

  Fuck yeah.

• 39:20Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 39:20Andrew Santino?

  I mean, dude, honestly, that's, that's genuinely, I get it.

• 39:23Speaker 04

  I'm texting it like eighteen times a day about like, I was just like, I'm gonna get smart. I'm gonna do all the things that I was never able to do, cuz like, I have like a learning disability or whatever.

• 39:31Andrew Santino?

  You do?

• 39:32Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, I, yeah, school was not good for me.

• 39:34Andrew Santino?

  What was your learning disa-, what was your disability?

• 39:35Speaker 04

  Uh, just, I don't know. I just like needed extra time on shit.

• 39:39Andrew Santino?

  Oh, okay.

• 39:39Speaker 04

  Yeah, never officially diagnosed.

• 39:41Andrew Santino?

  Let's do it today.

• 39:42Speaker 04

  Uh, yeah.

• 39:43Andrew Santino?

  Give me a learning disability test. No, come on. He looked up for a hot second. My cone was like, ooh, we've done stuff like this before.

• 39:49Speaker 04

  I was taking math in like, in the basement with the emotionally disturbed kids.

• 39:53Andrew Santino?

  Now, were you emotionally disturbed, or you just didn't absorb knowledge as well?

• 39:56Speaker 04

  I just didn't absorb knowledge as well.

• 39:57Andrew Santino?

  But you seem like a super well-adjusted adult.

• 39:59Speaker 04

  Sure, yeah.

• 40:00Andrew Santino?

  So this didn't affect you in a negative way?

• 40:01Speaker 04

  I just think whatever intelligence that's, that school requires, like, I don't have that, like, specific brand.

• 40:09Andrew Santino?

  I wasn't good in school, but you have, but you, but, but you, you're very articulate and you are intelligent, so clearly, this is the problem with school and America in general, and I can only speak for America. I was so fucking bad in school and they would always say the same thing. I don't know if this applies to you. They would say, "Man, if he could just focus his energy."

• 40:29Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 40:29Andrew Santino?

  He'd be good.

• 40:30Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 40:30Andrew Santino?

  But I wanted to make stuff or talk about stuff or fuck with shit. I wanted to like feel something.

• 40:37Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 40:37Andrew Santino?

  And I felt like school was, was without feeling. It felt numb. School was very numb.

• 40:43Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 40:43Andrew Santino?

  But like when I disrupted a class and told a story that I heard or I did something to like energize people, that gave me life, right?

• 40:52Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Did they put you on like Adderall or anything?

• 40:55Andrew Santino?

  No, it's interesting. They tried, right? My mother refused.

• 40:58Speaker 04

  Same?

• 40:58Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, my mom was like, "I don't want my kid on some bullshit."

• 41:00Speaker 04

  God bless him.

• 41:01Andrew Santino?

  He's a kid.

• 41:02Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 41:02Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, he's a fucking too much of a kid. Some kids are quiet, some kids are rambunctious, some, you know, like, some kids are fat, some kids are skinny. Like, I think the idea that everyone should be the same, and by the way, this is a very philosophical conversation, because I think this applies to adulthood as well. The idea that we should all think and feel the same about everything

• 41:19Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 41:20Andrew Santino?

  is fucking crazy.

• 41:20Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 41:21Andrew Santino?

  That's fucking crazy.

• 41:22Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 41:22Andrew Santino?

  We shouldn't.

• 41:23Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 41:23Andrew Santino?

  Politically, socially, economically, whatever you want to feel.

• 41:26Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 41:27Andrew Santino?

  I think I may not like how you feel.

• 41:29Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 41:30Andrew Santino?

  But I don't like this idea that we should all feel one way about it. Like, we all agree that's wrong, right? It's like,

• 41:35Speaker 04

  Oh, no.

• 41:35Andrew Santino?

  What do you mean? Unless it's fucking so extreme.

• 41:39Speaker 04

  Right.

• 41:40Andrew Santino?

  Murder. You know, it's like, well, and by the way, what did, you know, what did the guy do to deserve it?

• 41:45Speaker 04

  Right.

• 41:46Andrew Santino?

  What did he do to deserve it?

• 41:47Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 41:47Andrew Santino?

  Could you ever murder?

• 41:49Speaker 04

  Uh, no.

• 41:50Andrew Santino?

  Never.

• 41:50Speaker 04

  Which is good, because I-

• 41:51Andrew Santino?

  What if somebody hurt your wife?

• 41:53Speaker 04

  I couldn't, I don't think I could murder.

• 41:55Andrew Santino?

  No way. Somebody, someone attacked your wife and he got up in your face and he goes, "What are you gonna do about it, PD USA?"

• 42:01Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, I'd murder him.

• 42:03Andrew Santino?

  There it is. I knew, I was waiting for it, dude.

• 42:06Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 42:07Andrew Santino?

  I was hoping he would say that.

• 42:08Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 42:09Andrew Santino?

  Alright, well, I hope that never happens to you. I hope you never have to encounter somebody who hurts your wife so much that you have to murder them.

• 42:16Speaker 04

  I hope so, too.

• 42:16Andrew Santino?

  But if you do murder somebody, will I help you get out of it?

• 42:20Speaker 04

  I don't know.

• 42:21Andrew Santino?

  Yep.

• 42:21Speaker 04

  Thank you. Thank you. Oh, okay.

• 42:23Andrew Santino?

  Basement Brothers gotta stick together, dude.

• 42:25Speaker 04

  That makes me feel better.

• 42:26Andrew Santino?

  I never had this experience that you're having, but I did have friends that were in this world.

• 42:30Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 42:31Andrew Santino?

  And all I saw them as was- Uh, people that hated school.

• 42:37Speaker 04

  Yeah, well, I think you just hate the things that you're bad at as a kid. And it's just like, I just, I don't know, I couldn't wake up at, at seven o'clock and start learning math at fucking eight o'clock while I'm, while I got four hours of sleep, you know?

• 42:51Andrew Santino?

  Even if I got eight hours of sleep, I don't, I fucking hate math.

• 42:53Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 42:54Andrew Santino?

  What if I'm, what if I hate math?

• 42:55Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 42:55Andrew Santino?

  That's like the first question every kid should be like, so what if I hate math?

• 42:58Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 42:59Andrew Santino?

  Mrs. Miller, what if I fucking hate math?

• 43:00Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 43:01Andrew Santino?

  Isn't that okay?

• 43:02Speaker 04

  Right.

• 43:02Andrew Santino?

  And the idea, you know, this is such a cliche joke, but when I was a kid.

• 43:07Speaker 04

  Uh huh.

• 43:08Andrew Santino?

  In the early eighteen hundreds, the big joke was always, well, you better learn your multiplication and division and blah, blah. You're not gonna wa- you're not gonna have a calculator in your pocket all day.

• 43:20Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 43:21Andrew Santino?

  The fuck I'm not?

• 43:22Speaker 04

  I got way more than that now.

• 43:23Andrew Santino?

  Now I got something that's gonna teach me how to cook and get jacked.

• 43:25Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 43:25Andrew Santino?

  Fuck you, Ms. Miller.

• 43:27Speaker 04

  I mean.

• 43:27Andrew Santino?

  You did no shit, bitch.

• 43:28Speaker 04

  Back to the AI thing.

• 43:31Andrew Santino?

  Miss Miller's gone, she's way gone, rest in peace.

• 43:33Speaker 04

  I, I feel good now because it's just like I've been able to make a career out of the creative shit and kinda like going outside the box and like the, the normal regiment and stuff. But I always would get frustrated with myself by not being able to do the, the normal path type shit. Which really nice now is that I can just like ask AI a bunch of questions on how to like be a normal person.

• 43:55Andrew Santino?

  Ah.

• 43:56Speaker 04

  And.

• 43:56Andrew Santino?

  You're doing pretty fine.

• 43:57Speaker 04

  And it's, it's not, it makes me feel real good.

• 44:00Andrew Santino?

  How to be normal by AI?

• 44:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, how to fucking cook and how to like grocery shop and like how to.

• 44:05Andrew Santino?

  But don't you think being abnormal is kind of a good quality? It's probably why you're so artistic.

• 44:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

• 44:11Andrew Santino?

  So you want some of that abnormality to stay, you don't wanna normalize yourself to where you're like an average guy who does the average thing.

• 44:18Speaker 04

  No, but just basic survival stuff, I'm talking about like, I couldn't like shop, like go grocery shopping. Like I get overwhelmed, I get like, you know what I mean, stuff that like, I need like lists made for me and I need calendars and I need like structure. In order to like do day to day tasks.

• 44:34Andrew Santino?

  I understand this, but that's good that people exist and things exist to do, you have a manager?

• 44:38Speaker 04

  I've got a manager for sure, but even, but even like day to day like life admin stuff, like I would frustrate people around me by just like not being able to like take care of myself in, in like a normal way. Um, so I don't, even like asking too many questions, like I would always ask, ask questions first, figure it out later.

• 44:56Andrew Santino?

  Ask away.

• 44:56Speaker 04

  And now I'm just asking chat GPT.

• 44:58Andrew Santino?

  Let's hear, ask me something.

• 44:59Speaker 04

  Um.

• 45:01Speaker 04

  What, when did Donnie Darko come out?

• 45:04Andrew Santino?

  In October.

• 45:05Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 45:06Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, October.

• 45:07Speaker 04

  I thought it was September.

• 45:07Andrew Santino?

  I thought it was September 11th.

• 45:08Speaker 04

  I went my whole, I went my whole life believing that.

• 45:11Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, and that's, and that's.

• 45:12Speaker 05

  Well, the one of the things, they had to change the marketing because it featured, it was all about the plane crash and stuff. So that, it.

• 45:18Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 45:18Speaker 05

  It screwed it over in the box office.

• 45:20Speaker 04

  Gotcha.

• 45:20Speaker 05

  Nobody wanted, it already had a limited release because it released in January at Sundance. And then it got a wide release on October 26th.

• 45:25Speaker 04

  Ah, so September 11th did fuck with it.

• 45:28Speaker 05

  September 11th did fuck with it because when it initially premiered, it got, you know, some good hype. And then when it got people, didn't, they didn't distribute it.

• 45:33Andrew Santino?

  Turns out, September 11th fucked with a lot of stuff, man.

• 45:36Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 45:37Andrew Santino?

  It wasn't really a good point in our, in our history. And every time I go to New York and I see that, the one World Trade Center.

• 45:43Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 45:44Andrew Santino?

  I do think of what the imagery was like when there was two buildings. And I don't think one was enough. We should have built two again. Why don't we build two?

• 45:51Speaker 04

  I don't know.

• 45:51Andrew Santino?

  You built one to make up for two?

• 45:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, those, those are the.

• 45:54Andrew Santino?

  That means they win.

• 45:56Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 45:57Andrew Santino?

  They won. We should have built three. We should have built fucking three.

• 46:00Speaker 04

  Totally.

• 46:01Andrew Santino?

  Actually, we should have built two, two on, two small ones, one big one, and then two on the other side. Just a big middle finger.

• 46:08Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 46:09Andrew Santino?

  Right? Pointed right back at them to say, try it again, bitch.

• 46:12Speaker 04

  It's, it's never been more obvious that in the, in the aftermath of September 11th, the big winners were, uh, the Middle East.

• 46:20Andrew Santino?

  The big winners.

• 46:21Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 46:21Andrew Santino?

  The big winners.

• 46:22Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's clear, clear as day.

• 46:24Andrew Santino?

  Clear as day. George W. Bush, thank you, Doug E.

• 46:27Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 46:28Andrew Santino?

  Uh, please hit the link below for George W. Bush's 9/11 paintings we're selling, uh, code is whiskey. Have you seen Bush's paintings, by the way? You know, he's a big painter. Do you know about this?

• 46:37Speaker 04

  I, that was a thing, he paints dogs, right?

• 46:40Andrew Santino?

  He likes dogs.

• 46:41Speaker 04

  Uh-huh.

• 46:42Andrew Santino?

  Oh, man, that's so funny. What's the first thought I had? What's the first thought I had about paintings of dogs? Come on, you should know. You're a film guy. This dog's looking at.

• 46:50Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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• 48:12Speaker 04

  What do you want with me?

• 48:13Andrew Santino?

  What do you want with that? Is that a guy looking this way? The dog's looking this way? You know what this is?

• 48:16Speaker 04

  Mm-mm.

• 48:17Andrew Santino?

  Goodfellas? There's a great painting. There's a great painting in the scene in Goodfellas.

• 48:22Speaker 04

  I love that movie.

• 48:23Andrew Santino?

  It's a great movie.

• 48:24Speaker 04

  That movie, perfect movie, Departed, perfect movie. Just rewatched The Town.

• 48:29Andrew Santino?

  The Town?

• 48:30Speaker 04

  Bad movie.

• 48:31Andrew Santino?

  Didn't like it.

• 48:31Speaker 04

  Doesn't add up. I used to like it. I actually was like, this movie's awesome. I remember as a kid, rewatched it. It's bad.

• 48:37Andrew Santino?

  Well, you know what it's like? It's gratuitous.

• 48:42Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 48:43Andrew Santino?

  Which I think is part of the point of it.

• 48:44Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 48:45Andrew Santino?

  Right, the storyline itself.

• 48:47Speaker 04

  Uh-huh.

• 48:47Andrew Santino?

  Right, yeah, not great. You're right.

• 48:49Speaker 04

  And like Ben Affleck's vibe, I just like didn't buy, I didn't buy him as like...

• 48:54Andrew Santino?

  A tough guy gangster?

• 48:55Speaker 04

  A tough guy gangster that's also just like really sensitive, and then just like also kills people. I don't know. It just, the whole thing like didn't work.

• 49:04Andrew Santino?

  I understand.

• 49:04Speaker 04

  There was one scene where like the love interest, the girl, was just like, "What, like, what happened with your mom?" And he opens the story, would just be like, "It was the sound that woke me up." It's just like tries to be all like storyteller-y about it. It's just like, this guy wouldn't do that. He would just be like, "My mom left." I don't know. I just, I didn't like it.

• 49:27Andrew Santino?

  You didn't like it?

• 49:28Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 49:29Andrew Santino?

  And I get it. Ben is actually a big fan of the show. What is that? Is that Putin?

• 49:33Speaker 05

  It's one of Bush's. Bush paints a lot of people.

• 49:35Andrew Santino?

  Bush paints Putin as well? And who has that left him? Is that, uh, is that Ellen DeGeneres? Can you imagine? He paints like dictators and then Ellen? He just puts up fucking a bunch of old dictators and then also Ellen?

• 49:45Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 49:47Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, no, I, I understand the town is not your vibe. Departed, very, very good, though.

• 49:50Speaker 04

  I mean, I could watch that movie every day.

• 49:52Andrew Santino?

  That's character in The Departed. Who?

• 49:53Speaker 04

  Uh, Leo.

• 49:54Andrew Santino?

  Really?

• 49:54Speaker 04

  That's How I Want to Die, yeah.

• 49:56Andrew Santino?

  You don't think it's Frank Costello?

• 49:57Speaker 04

  Uh, no. Leo, for sure.

• 49:59Andrew Santino?

  Wow.

• 50:00Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 50:00Andrew Santino?

  You don't think it's Frank?

• 50:01Speaker 04

  Uh-uh. I think it's Leo, for sure.

• 50:04Andrew Santino?

  Wow, you think Leo's a better actor?

• 50:06Speaker 04

  Oh, no. But I, I just think he's a good character.

• 50:10Speaker 05

  She felt funny.

• 50:11Andrew Santino?

  She felt funny. I think he's so good in that movie. That's probably one of the best movies I think he's ever made. Yeah, Leo's good, but I, but Leo's very Leo.

• 50:19Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 50:19Andrew Santino?

  In that movie.

• 50:20Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 50:20Andrew Santino?

  And I guess the reason I like, um, the depiction of Frank Costello is that, uh... Jack just did something so different in that movie. It was really weird. It was, yeah, like, he was comical. When he was making fun of the priests in that scene when he slides them the... It's just there's something about he was so not how he usually is.

• 50:41Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 50:41Andrew Santino?

  That I loved it. Leo's pretty consistently Leo. He's the best actor probably of our generation.

• 50:45Speaker 05

  But a lot of people do say that is a turning point in Leo's career.

• 50:49Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, wow, well...

• 50:50Speaker 05

  Before that, he was more pretty boy, and after that, he's the more...

• 50:52Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, but he was still a pretty tough boy, dude. He was still a hot guy who was tough.

• 50:55Speaker 04

  I like Leo in that movie because I think about the character and the stakes of his life. Like, when I get like really nervous because I get stage fright.

• 51:03Andrew Santino?

  You do?

• 51:04Speaker 04

  Oh, big, big time.

• 51:05Andrew Santino?

  So before you go out in front of a big crowd, you get nervous?

• 51:06Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 51:07Andrew Santino?

  How big?

• 51:08Speaker 04

  Uh...

• 51:08Andrew Santino?

  What have you played?

• 51:09Speaker 04

  I've played stadiums. I've played in front of 60,000 people opening for Blink before.

• 51:13Andrew Santino?

  Does that fuck you up?

• 51:14Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, big time. It all fucks me up, and it hasn't gotten better.

• 51:17Andrew Santino?

  Even the tiny ones?

• 51:18Speaker 04

  Yeah. The tiny ones are worse, because they're like, it's just people right in front of you.

• 51:21Andrew Santino?

  What do you do to curb the anxiety?

• 51:22Speaker 04

  I think about Leo in The Departed and the type of stakes in his life and how nervous he must have been all the time. And then I think about my situation and, um, I feel like a pussy in, in a way that's motivating.

• 51:35Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 51:36Speaker 04

  And good.

• 51:37Andrew Santino?

  You're not a pussy.

• 51:37Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 51:38Andrew Santino?

  You're human.

• 51:39Speaker 04

  Thanks, yeah.

• 51:39Andrew Santino?

  Next time you get nervous, ask ChatGPT how you should deal with it.

• 51:42Speaker 04

  Oh, I do, yeah.

• 51:43Andrew Santino?

  What does it say?

• 51:44Speaker 04

  Uh, I.

• 51:45Andrew Santino?

  Ask it right now.

• 51:46Speaker 04

  I asked it last night. I was just like, am I peeing too much?

• 51:50Andrew Santino?

  Am I peeing too much?

• 51:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, at night. I was like, how do I deal with this?

• 51:54Andrew Santino?

  How many times do you pee at night?

• 51:55Speaker 04

  Um, like twice. Enough to like fuck up my whole night.

• 51:59Andrew Santino?

  You wake up twice to pee?

• 52:00Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 52:01Andrew Santino?

  And stop drinking water before 10pm?

• 52:03Speaker 04

  Uh, I don't know. Well, this creatine is making me piss a lot.

• 52:06Andrew Santino?

  Creatine will make you pee a lot.

• 52:07Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I, uh, I asked it to how to deal with it and it gave me some pretty good steps. It was just like, it's not a big deal. A lot of people deal with this. Don't worry about it. It's all in your head.

• 52:18Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 52:18Speaker 04

  Here's a couple of steps, which is nice.

• 52:20Andrew Santino?

  Stop being a bitch.

• 52:21Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 52:22Andrew Santino?

  That's basically what it said.

• 52:23Speaker 04

  Kind of, yeah. But in a very tender, tender way.

• 52:26Andrew Santino?

  So does it speak to you? Do you have it talk to you?

• 52:29Speaker 04

  No, no. I just have it.

• 52:30Andrew Santino?

  I like the ones that talk. I think that's even scarier.

• 52:32Speaker 04

  Uh, yeah. I don't know. Yeah.

• 52:35Andrew Santino?

  It's common.

• 52:36Speaker 04

  For sure. I'm not worried about it. I'm excited.

• 52:38Andrew Santino?

  You're excited to invest in the future.

• 52:40Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 52:40Andrew Santino?

  And good for you, dude. This is the end, though.

• 52:42Speaker 04

  Yeah. Well, I'm gonna go both ways. I'm gonna like, gonna, gonna go all in on, on AI and then also just like, get rid of my, just like have a disconnect from material goods, like live out in the woods, but also have AI.

• 52:55Andrew Santino?

  Live out in the woods with AI?

• 52:56Speaker 04

  Yeah, and just get rid of the center.

• 52:58Andrew Santino?

  It's like, I need, I, I wanna live in the woods, but I need, I need fiber.

• 53:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, for sure.

• 53:03Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, I get it. You need good wifi if you're gonna use AI in the woods.

• 53:08Speaker 04

  That's true.

• 53:09Andrew Santino?

  See, I understand this getting away thing. In fact, I do think all these years we mocked bunker people, you know?

• 53:14Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 53:14Andrew Santino?

  Doomsday people.

• 53:15Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 53:16Andrew Santino?

  Now more than ever.

• 53:17Speaker 04

  I'm about it.

• 53:17Andrew Santino?

  They're, they're real.

• 53:18Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 53:19Andrew Santino?

  25 years ago, it's like, shut the fuck up, dude.

• 53:21Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 53:22Andrew Santino?

  Now you're like, hey, where's that bunker again?

• 53:24Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 53:25Andrew Santino?

  I might wanna go.

• 53:25Speaker 04

  Do you feel like shit's like way fucked up right now, like more than it's ever been? Or did you feel like that's kind of the news? And it's just like?

• 53:34Andrew Santino?

  I think this is the same as ever. I think the internet gives us more weight to, uh, things that are happening. I mean, here's the, here's the biggest joke of all is like, you know, the LA riots that were happening downtown because of this Kings protest, all this, whatever the fuck you wanna say.

• 53:47Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 53:48Andrew Santino?

  Right? It's an inflated storyline. It's media, so it's gonna be bigger than you think.

• 53:52Speaker 04

  Right.

• 53:52Andrew Santino?

  But there, but meanwhile, right on the other side of the world, there's like true war bombs, like.

• 53:58Speaker 04

  That's the shit that's bad, bad, bad. Yeah.

• 54:01Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, so it's just kinda crazy that you're like, this, this isn't as real as we think it is, which means,

• 54:05Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 54:05Andrew Santino?

  my point being, it's always been this fucked up.

• 54:07Speaker 04

  Right.

• 54:07Andrew Santino?

  You just have to see, you have to see it now.

• 54:09Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 54:10Andrew Santino?

  So, you know. By the way, while there's bombs being dropped and people dying, someone is still going down a slide somewhere.

• 54:17Speaker 04

  Right, right, yeah.

• 54:19Andrew Santino?

  You know, like somewhere, someone is on, a kid is on a swing.

• 54:21Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 54:22Andrew Santino?

  And somewhere, someone is sitting on a surfboard, stoned, ready for the morning ride.

• 54:27Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 54:27Andrew Santino?

  And someone else is at a funeral. So it's like, the world is always collapsing.

• 54:32Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 54:32Andrew Santino?

  But it's also renewing.

• 54:34Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 54:34Andrew Santino?

  And the birth rates are low, which means we are going to die out, which is kinda sick.

• 54:38Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 54:39Andrew Santino?

  You know, we started the end.

• 54:40Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 54:41Andrew Santino?

  It's cool to watch.

• 54:42Speaker 04

  I don't know about that part.

• 54:43Andrew Santino?

  You don't know about that?

• 54:44Speaker 04

  No.

• 54:44Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, the birth rates are very low. In fact, I think we're reaching like, uh...

• 54:49Andrew Santino?

  Japan and, maybe it's China or Japan, has like the lowest birth rate they've had in a long, long time. Our birth rates are down. It's pretty, I think it's supposed to be pretty scary, is what they say, right? What is it about, China's birth rates are bad?

• 55:02Speaker 05

  I mean, it looks like a lot of China, US, they're all down.

• 55:05Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, they're all way, way down.

• 55:06Speaker 04

  Oh, shoot.

• 55:07Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, this is dangerous. This is why you should be impregnating your, your spouse.

• 55:10Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 55:10Andrew Santino?

  Please, dude, get out of here. Go. Go do it now.

• 55:13Speaker 04

  Cool.

• 55:14Andrew Santino?

  Think about this show while you're doing it later.

• 55:17Speaker 04

  Wait, do you have a kid?

• 55:18Andrew Santino?

  No kids.

• 55:18Speaker 04

  No kids?

• 55:19Andrew Santino?

  No, no kids, no kids. I don't have a penis. I cut it off six or seven months ago. It's actually framed in the office there. Just, you know, you know how Notre Dame football players, they hit that sign, play like a champion?

• 55:29Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 55:29Andrew Santino?

  Everyone's supposed to hit the penis on the way into the studio.

• 55:31Speaker 04

  That's cool. I'm jealous. That, I think that's where my pee thing comes from. Like, sometimes like, do I actually have to pee, or do I just have a penis?

• 55:38Andrew Santino?

  You just have a penis. And sometimes it needs to just, it's trying to talk.

• 55:42Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 55:42Andrew Santino?

  Sometimes it just wants to have a conversation.

• 55:44Speaker 04

  That's, yeah.

• 55:45Andrew Santino?

  Penises get lonely too, bud.

• 55:46Speaker 04

  Yeah, totally. Yeah, 100%.

• 55:51Andrew Santino?

  So tell, say this, plug, uh, plug this album that's gonna come out, because this show will, will try to parallel it on, when the album drops. And what's the name of the album, by the way?

• 55:58Speaker 04

  The album's called The Yips.

• 56:00Andrew Santino?

  The Yips?

• 56:00Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 56:01Andrew Santino?

  Wow, why is it called The Yips?

• 56:02Speaker 04

  It's just, it's the sports term, when you just lose your cognitive ability to do something that you've always been able to do.

• 56:09Andrew Santino?

  Right.

• 56:09Speaker 04

  You just fucking lose it mentally. Uh...

• 56:12Andrew Santino?

  Do you think many people in your, in your fanbase would understand where that comes from?

• 56:16Speaker 04

  Totally.

• 56:16Andrew Santino?

  Okay, rad.

• 56:17Speaker 04

  Yeah. Oh, I'm a big, uh, depressed white guy. Those are my guys.

• 56:20Andrew Santino?

  Sick, yeah. Yeah, that's great.

• 56:21Speaker 04

  In their 30s.

• 56:22Andrew Santino?

  Cause we, cause you, you don't like golf. I heard that at the beginning.

• 56:25Speaker 04

  I don't like golf, but, I mean, I love baseball. I love baseball.

• 56:28Andrew Santino?

  Golf is a big term, yips is a huge term in golf.

• 56:30Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 56:30Andrew Santino?

  When you have the, the yips, when you're chipping, it's, you like stall before you hit the ball.

• 56:34Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 56:34Andrew Santino?

  It's really weird. It does, your brain... Uh, it's kinda scary.

• 56:38Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 56:39Andrew Santino?

  Cause you're like, I can't believe I can't do this thing, this thing that I've always done before.

• 56:41Speaker 04

  For sure. So I'm kinda like taking that concept and just applying it to general life vibes. Uh, and we we kinda like created this like world in a bar. It's supposed to be like a northern Wisconsin bar. Like up near like Rhinelander area.

• 56:56Andrew Santino?

  Scotty bars.

• 56:57Speaker 04

  Yeah, the best, the best. And so it's like the place that you go to when you have the yips. And you get drunk by yourself and try and get yourself out of it. And so it's like a weird, sad, also cathartic world.

• 57:07Andrew Santino?

  Cool.

• 57:08Speaker 04

  It's fun. Yeah.

• 57:09Andrew Santino?

  You like getting drunk by yourself?

• 57:10Speaker 04

  Uh, no. The last time I did that was two months ago and then I decided to stop drinking for two months.

• 57:17Andrew Santino?

  Good.

• 57:18Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 57:18Andrew Santino?

  You're gonna keep it going, cause you're working out.

• 57:20Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 57:20Andrew Santino?

  You wanna see, you see how, and see how in shape and healthy you can get and then have a kid.

• 57:25Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 57:25Andrew Santino?

  And then how out of shape and unhealthy you can get when you have a kid.

• 57:28Speaker 04

  Sure.

• 57:28Andrew Santino?

  It's kinda the goal.

• 57:29Speaker 04

  Sure.

• 57:29Andrew Santino?

  That's the American dream. Even ChatGPT would agree with me.

• 57:31Speaker 04

  Definitely. Yeah, yeah.

• 57:32Andrew Santino?

  You'll get fat.

• 57:33Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 57:34Andrew Santino?

  You'll eat what they eat.

• 57:35Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 57:35Andrew Santino?

  You won't have time for exercise or creative activities.

• 57:39Speaker 04

  Yeah. I mean, it'd be nice to hear, it sounds like permission, which is cool.

• 57:43Andrew Santino?

  Get fat.

• 57:44Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 57:45Andrew Santino?

  Fuck math.

• 57:46Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 57:47Andrew Santino?

  Get fat.

• 57:47Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 57:48Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, I think that is the, I think that is the future is uh, is cleaning out ourselves a little bit more. I think we gotta do that in bigger spouts, you know? I need to do it for sure.

• 57:57Speaker 04

  Big time. I'm feeling good.

• 57:58Andrew Santino?

  That's where the yips come from, by the way.

• 57:59Speaker 04

  Totally.

• 58:00Andrew Santino?

  I think they come from just clogging our system up with bullshit.

• 58:03Speaker 04

  Totally.

• 58:04Andrew Santino?

  Your clear mind won't allow it.

• 58:06Speaker 04

  We, and we got the Chicago thing too, where it's just like, I don't think there's a region in the world that celebrates poisoning yourself as much as.

• 58:14Andrew Santino?

  They're great at it.

• 58:14Speaker 04

  Chicago, yeah.

• 58:15Andrew Santino?

  Wisconsin's pretty close. Minnesota's not far off. I think everywhere in the Midwest, because we dealt with such terrible winters.

• 58:20Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 58:21Andrew Santino?

  And uh, and it's not just the weather, it's also like communally, the culture is drown, drown yourself.

• 58:29Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 58:29Andrew Santino?

  It's a little bit like cultural.

• 58:30Speaker 04

  And eat a lot of red meat.

• 58:32Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 58:33Speaker 04

  And it's healthy.

• 58:34Andrew Santino?

  It's healthy to eat red meat, dude. It is, sure. The idea that we know we don't know.

• 58:38Speaker 04

  Right.

• 58:39Andrew Santino?

  Uh, but we're all gonna die very soon of something much more tragic than we could ever imagine.

• 58:43Speaker 04

  Yeah, cool.

• 58:44Andrew Santino?

  You know what I mean? And who cares, dude? Speed up the rock.

• 58:47Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 58:48Andrew Santino?

  Wouldn't it be a bummer, though, if the rock hits us, but it only hits like, it decimates only so much of the world, but doesn't take out everybody?

• 58:55Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 58:56Andrew Santino?

  What a bummer.

• 58:56Speaker 04

  Uh, I don't know. Sometimes I watch movies like Twenty Eight Days Later, and I'm like je- a little bit jealous of like, uh, oh, all we gotta do is survive. Like, those, that's the type of assignment that I feel like I'm pretty good at.

• 59:08Andrew Santino?

  You just said you had to ask ChatGPT for like, normal stuff, though.

• 59:12Speaker 04

  Yeah, but, but, normal stuff like how to interact with like, modern society.

• 59:16Andrew Santino?

  You said grocery shopping and all that stuff?

• 59:18Speaker 04

  Yeah, there's no grocery shopping in the apocalypse.

• 59:20Andrew Santino?

  I know, but then you're gonna have to kill and eat things, and you just said murder is not a part of your DNA.

• 59:23Speaker 04

  I guess.

• 59:24Andrew Santino?

  Unless someone's threatening your wife.

• 59:25Speaker 04

  But I am good at hiding and staying in a very uncomfortable space for a very long time. I can do that. I can be uncomfortable for a very long time.

• 59:32Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 59:32Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 59:33Andrew Santino?

  The Anne Frank.

• 59:34Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 59:35Andrew Santino?

  Pulling out the old Anne Frank on us. Where's Petey? He's Anne Frank-ing it.

• 59:40Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 59:40Andrew Santino?

  Petey, come down and help us kill something already. I'm Frank-ing, leave me alone.

• 59:46Speaker 04

  I suppose so.

• 59:47Andrew Santino?

  That's alright. Name your next album Anne Frank.

• 59:50Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 59:50Andrew Santino?

  Do it, dude. Can you imagine the sales?

• 59:53Speaker 04

  I think it would make a splash.

• 59:56Speaker 04

  Hey, give me some press. No, I, no one, no one covers my shit.

• 1:00:00Andrew Santino?

  Someone should cover your shit.

• 1:00:01Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 1:00:02Andrew Santino?

  Best cover song ever.

• 1:00:03Speaker 04

  Best cover song ever?

• 1:00:04Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, what's the best cover song?

• 1:00:05Speaker 04

  Like, potential, or like, the cover version of a song?

• 1:00:08Andrew Santino?

  Give me either, but I was saying like, the best cover of a song for you.

• 1:00:11Speaker 04

  Uh, best cover of a song is Pete Townshend's live cover of Save It For Later by The English Beat.

• 1:00:17Andrew Santino?

  Save It For Later?

• 1:00:18Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:00:18Andrew Santino?

  Wow.

• 1:00:19Speaker 04

  It's incredible.

• 1:00:19Andrew Santino?

  You lo- you think it's perfect?

• 1:00:21Speaker 04

  I think it's perfect. I think it's better, I think it's better than the original.

• 1:00:23Andrew Santino?

  Which is my favorite for, that's the next album, Better Than The Original.

• 1:00:26Speaker 04

  Oh, that, I actually would do that.

• 1:00:28Andrew Santino?

  That's a rad name.

• 1:00:29Speaker 04

  Okay, that's great.

• 1:00:30Andrew Santino?

  Because it is, some things are better than the original. I will say, what? What were you gonna say?

• 1:00:34Speaker 05

  What are your favorite covers?

• 1:00:36Andrew Santino?

  My favorite, well, I would say I go through phases, there's a lot of them, but I would say, Nirvana's "In Bloom", is that what you're referring to? Oh, is that referring to?

• 1:00:46Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:00:48Speaker 04

  Album covers.

• 1:00:49Speaker 05

  I thought you were talking about c- song covers.

• 1:00:50Speaker 04

  I thought you were talking about covers of songs.

• 1:00:52Andrew Santino?

  I am.

• 1:00:53Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 1:00:54Andrew Santino?

  I am. I was about to finish it, but I thought that's what you were referring to, me saying, Nirvana's song "In Bloom",

• 1:00:59Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:00:59Andrew Santino?

  Uh, Sturgill Simpson.

• 1:01:02Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 1:01:02Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's a great, yeah.

• 1:01:03Andrew Santino?

  And it's maybe one of the greatest songs I've ever heard in my entire life. In fact, this is lore, but I don't know how true this is, because I'm gonna miss, I'm gonna tell the story incorrectly. But apparently because Frances Bean, that's her name, Kurt's daughter, owns the rights to the music.

• 1:01:17Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 1:01:17Andrew Santino?

  Um, apparently they don't license out any of his shit, they don't want anybody else to do it. And I guess, whether or not this is true, it just sounds beautiful, but I guess Sturgill loved that song, and I either had reached out prior, or the other way around, and had said that I want to make the song, and I know they don't put stuff out, but then he made the song and then gave it to her, just gave it to her, to be like a gift, so to speak, like, I don't care if it ever comes out, but like, I wanted to make this because I love it so much, and then she allowed it to be put out on his album. That may or may not be totally true, there may be pieces of it on the internet that could find the truth to that, but I love that version of the story.

• 1:01:53Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:01:54Andrew Santino?

  And whether or not that's true, what I can say is true is Nirvana songs are not widely covered.

• 1:01:59Speaker 04

  Right.

• 1:02:00Andrew Santino?

  You do not hear a lot of Nirvana songs, so I do not, I know they must have some sort of uh, stronghold on licensing out covers, because I don't think they like that kind of shit. Because by the way, wouldn't you think you'd hear a thousand fucking Nirvana covers at this point?

• 1:02:15Speaker 04

  Totally.

• 1:02:15Andrew Santino?

  And they'd be beat to death, and they'd be terrible.

• 1:02:17Speaker 04

  They'd be bad.

• 1:02:18Andrew Santino?

  Anyway, "In Bloom" by Sturgill Simpson, maybe one of the greatest songs I've ever heard in my life, it'll make you cry, and make you fucking feel like you're gonna like break through the ice at the same time.

• 1:02:26Speaker 04

  Epic.

• 1:02:26Andrew Santino?

  It's incre- it's, that's, it's something about it. Now, album covers. What is the greatest album cover imagery? Give me that.

• 1:02:36Speaker 04

  For me, it's, uh, I love, uh, "The Devil and God Are Raging Inside of Me" by that brand new album.

• 1:02:42Andrew Santino?

  I gotta see this. I don't know what this is.

• 1:02:44Speaker 04

  It's just like a Halloween scene.

• 1:02:46Andrew Santino?

  It's a scene from the movie Halloween?

• 1:02:47Speaker 04

  No, just like, uh, I don't know. For me, it's just the one that sticks out the most.

• 1:02:52Andrew Santino?

  Bring it up.

• 1:02:53Speaker 04

  Maybe it's because my, it's like my favorite album of all time.

• 1:02:55Andrew Santino?

  Oh, that's very cool.

• 1:02:56Speaker 04

  I just love it.

• 1:02:57Andrew Santino?

  Say the album clearly again.

• 1:02:58Speaker 04

  "The Devil and God Are Raging Inside of Me."

• 1:03:00Andrew Santino?

  "The Devil and God Are Raging Inside of Me." That's a cool looking album cover.

• 1:03:03Speaker 04

  That was eighth grade for me.

• 1:03:05Andrew Santino?

  That's, well, that, see, that's, that hits. Well, and you gave me your album and I asked, it's a picture of a family with a dog and I asked if it's your, because it's your album.

• 1:03:12Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:03:13Andrew Santino?

  And I said, "Is that your family?" And you said, "No, that's just..."

• 1:03:15Speaker 04

  This is a family.

• 1:03:15Andrew Santino?

  That's just a family.

• 1:03:16Speaker 04

  Yeah. I write a lot about thinking about like having a family because it's always been something that I've felt incapable of like being good at.

• 1:03:24Andrew Santino?

  And look at you, you're going to be very good at it.

• 1:03:26Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, well, maybe, we'll see.

• 1:03:28Andrew Santino?

  What's your favorite album cover, Coney?

• 1:03:31Speaker 05

  Maybe "To Pimp a Butterfly."

• 1:03:33Andrew Santino?

  "To Pimp a Butterfly," that's pretty, yeah, I guess that's okay.

• 1:03:36Speaker 05

  Or "The Chronic."

• 1:03:37Andrew Santino?

  "The Chronic" is very simple and beautiful.

• 1:03:39Speaker 05

  But it's a play on the zigzag cover.

• 1:03:40Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, it's pretty beautiful.

• 1:03:41Speaker 05

  It's iconic, it's so simple and iconic, but "To Pimp a Butterfly" is, it's such a beautiful cover, there's so much symbolism in it.

• 1:03:46Andrew Santino?

  I'll tell you what sticks out pretty hard in my brain, even though it's not, it's nothing,

• 1:03:52Andrew Santino?

  it's nothing too powerful, but Bush's "16 Stone."

• 1:03:55Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:03:56Andrew Santino?

  For some reason, because it was part of my childhood.

• 1:03:59Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:03:59Andrew Santino?

  Show me that album cover. That thing like singed into my, because I saw the CD, it was on like the top of my rack for a while, maybe that's why I kept seeing that. Yeah, I love that.

• 1:04:08Speaker 04

  That's awesome.

• 1:04:09Andrew Santino?

  Because I love the colorway.

• 1:04:10Speaker 04

  Is "Glycerin" on that album?

• 1:04:12Andrew Santino?

  "Glycerin" is on that fucking album.

• 1:04:13Speaker 04

  That song rocks, that was the first song I ever learned how to play on guitar.

• 1:04:15Andrew Santino?

  So good.

• 1:04:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, insane.

• 1:04:16Andrew Santino?

  Oh, there's something about that simplicity of those old covers that I was like obsessed with.

• 1:04:22Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:04:23Andrew Santino?

  Because, and also that's back when you can open up a book in a CD and actually like read about more of the art and they'd all, they have alternative photos and then sometimes the third or fourth photo would be better than the original cover photo. And you're like, "That should have been the cover." And what I would do is I'd fold it, flip it, and then put that as the cover. Did you ever do that?

• 1:04:38Speaker 04

  Uh-uh.

• 1:04:38Andrew Santino?

  Like "Goldfinger." "Goldfinger."

• 1:04:40Speaker 04

  Awesome.

• 1:04:41Andrew Santino?

  "Goldfinger" had a great album cover.

• 1:04:43Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:04:43Andrew Santino?

  Uh, and they had even more art inside of the book.

• 1:04:47Speaker 04

  I never got, I just listened to them via Tony Hawk's Pro Skater.

• 1:04:50Andrew Santino?

  Correct.

• 1:04:50Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:04:51Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, you never had the, you never had CDs.

• 1:04:52Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:04:53Andrew Santino?

  Yeah. Yeah. CDs were fucking rad.

• 1:04:54Speaker 04

  No, I, I had CDs. I still have CDs.

• 1:04:56Andrew Santino?

  This, yes, yes, Low End Theory, probably one of my favorite album covers.

• 1:05:00Speaker 05

  Cause that's a real picture. They painted a, painted a model.

• 1:05:02Andrew Santino?

  Of all of the Tribe album covers, this is by far the best. Yes, I agree with that. I do agree with that. That is a beautiful fucking photo.

• 1:05:09Speaker 05

  Midnight Marauders, though, all the, just other hip hop heads, like all the rappers in the background.

• 1:05:13Andrew Santino?

  I like it, but this one's a little bit more beautiful.

• 1:05:15Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:05:15Andrew Santino?

  This one's pretty artistic. That's a real photo.

• 1:05:17Speaker 04

  Are you into more like Bush adjacent, like kinda like butt rock music like that too?

• 1:05:22Andrew Santino?

  I like every, dude, you could, I can name you-

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• 1:06:45Andrew Santino?

  If I touch, I can touch so many weird bases of music.

• 1:06:48Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:06:48Andrew Santino?

  I'm not saying I'm super knowledgeable about all them, but I, but I like everything from fucking corny pop music in the current era to like, to fucking, again, like a Sturgill, like a soul. And then I like.

• 1:07:01Speaker 04

  You like Pearl Jam?

• 1:07:02Andrew Santino?

  Uh, yeah, sure. Yeah, I like them. Yeah, I'm not, I don't, I never like fell in love, but I liked them a lot.

• 1:07:07Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:07:08Andrew Santino?

  You know, uh, I think, I don't know, I like, there isn't a genre that I like dislike.

• 1:07:13Speaker 04

  Cool.

• 1:07:13Andrew Santino?

  And then I fall in love with little tiny things like, uh, I'm into the, um, I'm, right now I'm into, um, I've been listening to Galt.

• 1:07:23Speaker 04

  Don't know about it.

• 1:07:24Andrew Santino?

  Name wrong. Uh, Galt McDermott? Am I saying it wrong? Just because my, uh, yeah, Galt McDermott. I've been listening to a lot of Galt McDermott.

• 1:07:33Speaker 04

  Cool.

• 1:07:34Andrew Santino?

  G A L T. Do you know who this gentleman is?

• 1:07:36Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:07:37Andrew Santino?

  Okay, listen to this song real fast. We have to cut it out, but like, just so you can hear. Galt McDermott.

• 1:07:42Speaker 04

  Nice.

• 1:07:42Andrew Santino?

  Don't even know how I found Galt McDermott, but occasionally I'll just stumble upon something and I'll go, like that a lot. And then I'll just listen to their radio.

• 1:07:49Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:07:50Andrew Santino?

  For as long as I can.

• 1:07:51Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:07:52Andrew Santino?

  Spotify or Apple Music?

• 1:07:54Speaker 04

  Uh, Apple Music.

• 1:07:55Andrew Santino?

  You're wrong, dude. It's Spotify.

• 1:07:56Speaker 04

  I know, but I'm on my manager's family plan, so that's what I'm doing.

• 1:08:00Andrew Santino?

  That dude that came in?

• 1:08:01Speaker 04

  No, my, my other manager.

• 1:08:02Andrew Santino?

  Oh, okay, okay. That's okay.

• 1:08:03Speaker 04

  I got two managers.

• 1:08:04Andrew Santino?

  That guy's handsome.

• 1:08:05Speaker 04

  Yeah, very handsome.

• 1:08:06Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, you ever?

• 1:08:08Speaker 04

  Hook up?

• 1:08:09Andrew Santino?

  Whatever.

• 1:08:09Speaker 04

  No. We've been best friends since, uh, first grade.

• 1:08:13Andrew Santino?

  Oh, so yeah, you definitely have hooked up then. Yeah, if it's been that long, dude, something weird has happened, right? A little sleepover?

• 1:08:17Speaker 04

  Yeah, Washington DC trip.

• 1:08:19Andrew Santino?

  Peter, Petey, what if we snuggle?

• 1:08:22Andrew Santino?

  Well, I just wanna watch Terminator. Me too, but like, what if we're snuggling while we watch Terminator?

• 1:08:27Speaker 04

  Yeah, you know how 13-year-olds are. It's really, it's quite odd.

• 1:08:30Andrew Santino?

  So gay.

• 1:08:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's very gay.

• 1:08:32Andrew Santino?

  It's the gayest.

• 1:08:33Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:08:33Andrew Santino?

  You could ever be as a young, a young boy, a young white suburban boy.

• 1:08:37Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:08:38Andrew Santino?

  Gayest boy on earth.

• 1:08:39Speaker 04

  For sure.

• 1:08:39Andrew Santino?

  No queen down at the fucking gay pride parade on a float could ever be as gay as a sleepover with two 13-year-old white suburban boys in northern Chicago.

• 1:08:48Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:08:48Andrew Santino?

  That, that's the gayest you could be.

• 1:08:50Speaker 04

  I got like eight, eight boys.

• 1:08:53Andrew Santino?

  Eight boys?

• 1:08:53Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:08:54Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:54Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:08:55Andrew Santino?

  So gay.

• 1:08:55Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:08:56Andrew Santino?

  That's a party. You gotta call the cops.

• 1:08:58Speaker 04

  Indeed.

• 1:08:59Andrew Santino?

  Uh, listen to the album. Uh, please enjoy Petey USA on all the platforms that he's available. Watch him get jacked.

• 1:09:06Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:09:06Andrew Santino?

  Uh, the album drops again. Give him the date of the album again.

• 1:09:09Speaker 04

  July 11th.

• 1:09:09Andrew Santino?

  July 11th. Uh, please, stream it, download it, consume it, buy it, go see him live. You on tour at all?

• 1:09:17Speaker 04

  Uh, I'm gonna be putting my tour on sale the day the album drops.

• 1:09:20Andrew Santino?

  Hell yeah, July 11th, we'll be putting it out, and it's pdusa.com?

• 1:09:23Speaker 04

  Uh, PD's website.com.

• 1:09:26Andrew Santino?

  PD's website.com. Uh, we'll put the link in the description down below, Joe. Please, go see and enjoy and ingest him. I've liked you for a while, man, I think you're a talented, cool dude.

• 1:09:36Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 1:09:36Andrew Santino?

  And I hope the success continues. I hope you have a family, uh, if, cause you want one. Not because I hope you have one, just because you want one.

• 1:09:42Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:09:43Andrew Santino?

  And I hope you get jacked. And I hope, uh, when we do go down in flames.

• 1:09:48Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:09:49Andrew Santino?

  I do hope that, uh, you manage to, uh, be victorious and survive. And lead us back into a new, a new society.

• 1:09:58Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:09:59Andrew Santino?

  Right on, right?

• 1:10:00Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:10:00Andrew Santino?

  Cool?

• 1:10:01Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:10:01Andrew Santino?

  We end the show the same way. You look into that camera, you're single, and you say one word or one phrase to end the episode. One word or one phrase.

• 1:10:08Speaker 04

  Thanks.