Pod Insights Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce Kylie on Baby Birthday Parties, WAG Stereotypes & Star-Studded Fashion with Kristin Juszczyk | Ep. 11 About this episode Kylie’s back for a brand new episode of Not Gonna Lie presented by Lululemon and kicks things off by reacting to a viral comment from a fan about Jason being her emergency contact. Kylie clarifies who her emergency contact really is and also addresses the fact that she went over 45 minutes in the Valentine’s Day Special (1:20).
And since Bennie, Ellie and Baby Girl Number Four will all have birthdays coming up and close together, Kylie gets brutally honest about all things kid birthday parties. Kylie weighs in on when parties are no longer just for the parents and how big the Kelces go for baby parties (4:45).
After that, Kylie brings back her “F*ck Around & Find Out” segment to address a misleading news headline that came from a story she told recently on Call Her Daddy (8:10).
Then, Kylie is joined by Kristin Juszczyk, fashion designer and Chief Creative Officer of NFL fashion brand: Off Season. Kylie asks Kristin about how she got started sewing, her favorite pieces over the years and what she says to people now who rejected her early on (15:47).
Kristin and Kylie also get into the negative connotations of the word “WAG” and how they both view it currently (25:10). They then discuss the importance of NFL teams that prioritize families and their experiences with the other women on their husbands’ teams (32:50).
Lastly, Kylie has Kristin play a game of “Keep or Cut” with a bunch of current fashion trends including tiny sunglasses, crop tops and leopard print to see which Kristin likes and dislikes (37:40).
Make sure you tune into More Sh*t Monday on the Not Gonna Lie YouTube channel to find out which NGL fan base names made Kylie’s final cut. Follow us on social media to vote in the official poll!
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0:30 Kylie Kelce? Not gonna lie, today I was holding my nephew and Benny came over and said, "Put it down." So I'm really excited about giving her another sibling. Let's start this podcast.
0:48 Kylie Kelce? Welcome back to Not Gonna Lie, a Wave original, brought to you by Lululemon. I'm your host, Kylie Kelce, big time germaphobe, very pregnant and keep forgetting, and fan of the two-time Super Bowl champion Philadelphia Eagles. Go Birds. Sorry, Trav. As always, make sure you follow us on social, at NGLwithKylie, and subscribe to the Not Gonna Lie YouTube channel. On today's episode, I'm gonna get brutally honest about kids' birthday parties, because we got a couple coming up. I'm also gonna bring back a fan favorite segment. It's been a while. Fuck around and find out. So stick around to find out who fucked around this past week.
1:30 Kylie Kelce? After that, I'm so excited for you all to hear my conversation with the fashion designer behind those viral NFL puffer jackets and vests, Kristin Usecheck. Before I get to that, I want to thank all the NGLers, for now, for watching my Valentine's Day special with Jason. If you haven't seen it yet, check it out. I've seen a lot of you commenting that Jason is my emergency contact. Specifically, Optimus Ris commented, "And this is Kylie's emergency contact, with two crying laughing faces." No, he's not.
2:04 Kylie Kelce? Uh, my husband is not my emergency contact. I know, earth shattering. Um, my mother is my emergency contact, and let me tell you why. It has nothing to do with the fact that my emergency contact is
2:21 Kylie Kelce? a good time, uh, or a little nutty, or goofy, or any of those things.
2:30 Kylie Kelce? Jason is not my emergency contact because he gets so many random people calling him.
2:39 Kylie Kelce? It is insane how many people call him from random phone numbers that he does not pick up a phone call unless it's from someone that he knows and that is saved in his phone. So, uh, that being said, uh, my emergency contact is my mom. Because if little Lisa were to ever call Jason, he would pick up the phone.
3:05 Kylie Kelce? Without question. I have full faith. And so the chain of phone calls for my emergency contact situation, uh, is Lisa, my mom. And then she would call Jason because he would definitely answer her call. So I would have it be Jason if I thought he was gonna answer the phone.
3:28 Kylie Kelce? I do trust my husband to handle shit. Uh, and to be there for me. So I, I would have it as my husband, but he, he won't answer it. There is something else I need to address about the episode that a lot of you brought up. Amanda Browning, B7P, commented, wait, you exceeded 45 minutes, pregnancy brain? You know what we do here, guys. We lift other women up.
3:58 Kylie Kelce? But Queen Emma thought that it was necessary to allow more time because Jason and I were supposed to record for an hour and some change. And I'm pretty sure we were sitting in that studio for over two hours. I'm not going to blame Queen Emma because I think it was, it landed well. We needed to fit more Jason time. I love more Jason time. I made a vow to make sure that we hit 45 minutes. For those who are busy, who don't want to chop it up into four different listens in a week, we're trying to make this efficient. And I'm
4:40 Kylie Kelce? gonna stick to it. For now. I mean, if there's real hell raised eventually, I can adapt. I will. But for now, 45 minutes. Sorry, Queen Emma. Next up, if I'm being honest, it's time for our next segment. Can I be honest? Because two of our little ladies have birthdays coming up real soon, I thought this week I'd get brutally honest about a subject that affects all of us as parents. Kids birthday parties. We have, we're about
5:23 Kylie Kelce? to have three birthdays, very close together. I am not a big fan of big birthdays for babies. A one-year-old, first of all, a smash cake is very cute. But then who's cleaning it up? So I feel like it's just making more work for ourselves. I would much rather get a cake and give them a piece and then just let them. Go in on it, which is exactly what we've done for the past couple birthdays. Either decorated a cake to the specifications of the birthday girl,
6:04 Kylie Kelce? or we have ordered a cake to make it special. Um, I love doing that because they get to pick it out ahead of time. Ellie picked Tots this year, so she has, is getting a Tots birthday cake. If you don't know what that is, shout out to Disney Plus, we know what it is. I'm deep in it with Pip and Freddie, it's fine. Uh, Benny picked Elsa because she's been very into singing Let It Go recently. So Elsa and I believe Olaf will be on her cake. And they are very excited. We will scroll Pinterest and uh, Google search to see some birthday cakes for kids' birthdays. And then we order it.
6:48 Kylie Kelce? I think it's very special for them to get to show all of the people who come to celebrate their birthday, that they got to pick their cake and how excited they are for it. Um, there is a video on my Instagram of Wyatt getting a, I want to say it was a pink birthday cake with a green dinosaur. I might have that backwards. Um, but she was very excited about that cake. And you can see that she's like excited to share it with everyone there. I think that anytime before the age of, I would say like, birthdays one and two, they're for parents, right? Like the, the cooler's fully stocked.
7:33 Kylie Kelce? Well, it's not, those kids don't know what's going on. I will say I am vehemently against the idea of other kids getting birthday presents on a child's birthday. So, uh, I, people like our family knows, no one else is receiving a birthday present for Bennett's birthday. Um, everyone gets a special day. When your siblings get presents for your birthday, it reduces your birthday. It's not their birthday, it's your birthday. And also I think it teaches them to a degree that just because someone's getting presents, doesn't mean you get presents. It feels very participation trophy-esque.
8:20 Kylie Kelce? And not happening. That's it for Can I Be Honest? Last thing before we get to my conversation with Kristin Youschek. You guys might have seen, I also got the chance to sit down with Alex Cooper for an episode of Call Her Daddy while I was in New Orleans. Now, there's been quite a few tabloid headlines from our conversation, but there's one in particular that's given me no choice but to bring back a segment near and dear to my heart. Fuck around and find out.
8:49 Kylie Kelce? The fuck around? Well, that was Parade.com. They fucked around when they wrote the following headline. Why Kylie Kelsey Refused to Eat Taylor Swift's Home-Cooked Meal on Double Date with Singer? Well, aren't you about to find out? I, uh, on Call Her Daddy, explained that, uh, we had gone on a double date, but that it was at home.
9:17 Kylie Kelce? There was a little bit of confusion because that meal at home was like a private dinner. So that was no one, that was done by a outstanding chef.
9:33 Kylie Kelce? The meals, the home-cooked meals that we, I did not get to enjoy, were not because I refused to eat them, but because the child in my womb overwhelmed me with hormones that suggested that if I consume anything other than crackers, that it might be seen again. If you catch my drift. Anyone that has experienced pregnancy nausea knows that it's not a choice. At eight weeks, that's not a choice. I've known women who lived on only waffles for their entire first trimester.
10:16 Kylie Kelce? There's women who can only stomach cereal or crackers or pretzels. And you know what? Sometimes that's me. I didn't refuse anything. I wouldn't refuse anything, especially if I was without child. Just to set the record straight, the weekend that we were together where I was unable to stomach the dinner, home-cooked meal, I did get a chance to try, I believe they were confetti, like Funfetti pancakes. Regardless, they hit. They were so good.
10:58 Kylie Kelce? Baby liked them. I loved them. They were very, very good.
11:04 Kylie Kelce? The thing that bothers me the most about this headline,
11:09 Kylie Kelce? besides the fact that I directly addressed why I didn't eat the meal
11:16 Kylie Kelce? in the Call Her Daddy episode, why are we trying to pit women against women? Why are we doing that?
11:24 Kylie Kelce? That seems, that seems dumb and counterproductive. Anyone that asks me in person, I am very forthcoming with how much I love and appreciate her and how much I love
11:41 Kylie Kelce? the fact that you can tell how happy Travis is.
11:46 Kylie Kelce? And that's, that's what I care about. So let's not pit women against women. Let's stop writing articles when there's not any beef to write articles about. And let's recognize the fact that I would not refuse a home-cooked meal. I would not refuse a home-cooked meal because I love food. So unless it's beats. I had a great time taping Call Her Daddy. It was so much fun to sit down with Alex. She's so good at what she does. And of course, we got to bond over all things Philadelphia. And what better place to do that than in the town that the Eagles were playing?
12:32 Kylie Kelce? There is a social clip out where Alex and I got a chance to discuss that she would not be attending the game, which at first I was very alarmed about. As a Birds fan, I feel like it's our obligation to be there. And then she explained the most logical explanation for why she was leaving. Alex was not in Minnesota. She was in Arizona. And for anyone who is not an Eagles fan, the Eagles won Super Bowl 52 in Minnesota and lost in Arizona. So she did her part and went home. And my superstitious ass loves that. And again, I'm not saying that that's what worked.
13:16 Kylie Kelce? But Alex did her part. So, good. Well, if any of the Daddy Gang listeners are here now, giving NGL a try, welcome. If you want to hear more stories about my kids taking off their diapers in their crib, or my husbands ran about Twilight, I think you're gonna like it here. Welcome. I've said it before on this show, I have two looks. That's it. That's all I've got. I've got comfy athleisure and occasionally hard pants. That's it. As you can see, I'm in one of my favorite everyday looks right now. From Lululemon. There's a good chance I'll be
14:00 Kylie Kelce? wearing something very similar tomorrow, and the next day, and the day after that, the day after that, probably the day after that. You get it. This sweater in particular is the one that I wore to the Super Bowl. Paired it with a pair of Lululemon leggings. The aligns, because they feel like butter. This sweater, I can't tell you what was underneath of it, but it may have had wings. I'm also excited to try a new product from Lululemon after baby girl arrives, the new Lululemon Glow Up Tights. That's a beautiful name.
14:44 Kylie Kelce? They just launched these new training tights with body hugging, move enhancing support that will make you feel like saying, "Let's do this" to just about anything. Lululemon's Glow Up Tights are available now. Visit your local store or shop online at lululemon.com. And now it's time for what professional podcasters call a toss to today's guest. I wouldn't know that without Queen Emma. She's the fashion designing sensation behind the NFL jackets and vests you've seen everywhere. She's the founder and chief creative officer of clothing brand Offseason. She's also a fellow NFL wife and does a lot of great work in support of the National Breast Cancer Foundation.
15:27 Kylie Kelce? I was so excited to sit down with her in New Orleans. Please enjoy my conversation with Kristin Youschek.
15:34 Speaker 03 One of the things we were just talking about before we got started was sort of like the phenomenon of you've been in football with Kyle now for
15:45 Speaker 04 12 years.
15:46 Speaker 03 Long time.
15:46 Speaker 04 Yeah.
15:47 Speaker 03 And one of the things that you guys have done is like jumped around a little bit. What teams have you been with while you've been together?
15:55 Speaker 04 So Kyle and I met when he was playing for the Ravens and I was in college. And so he was there for four years and then he signed with the Niners for eight years. We've been really fortunate to only be with two teams. That doesn't happen often.
16:06 Speaker 03 Yes.
16:06 Speaker 04 Um, so yeah, now the Niners really feel like home. Being with the Ravens feels like a lifetime ago.
16:12 Speaker 03 You have done some incredible things, had some severely viral moments, which were so well deserved.
16:19 Speaker 04 Thank you.
16:20 Speaker 03 What has been the biggest moment for you so far?
16:24 Speaker 04 Truthfully, I feel like this is such a cliche answer, but like every time, it almost feels like nothing happens for so long and you're trying over and over and over again. And then all of a sudden so many things are happening and you want to stay so present for it. And for me, it really like all, I've, I've been sewing for so long and I have always, actually all stemmed from Halloween. Kyle and I went to a 49ers Halloween party and I know I wanted to be Justin and Brittany. That like, do you remember their VMA look?
16:54 Speaker 03 The denim?
16:54 Speaker 04 The denim on denim?
16:55 Speaker 03 Perfect.
16:56 Speaker 04 Yes, yes. And I was like, I need to be that. I went on Etsy, couldn't find it. So I went to Walmart and bought like 20 pairs of jeans. And I'm like, I'm just gonna start cutting it up and going on a sewing machine and see what I can do.
17:08 Speaker 03 Sure, some patchwork.
17:09 Speaker 04 Exactly. And I kind of feel like I blacked out while doing it. And then all of a sudden I had this dress made. I'm like, something like came over me when I was making it. And I was just like, wow, I really love doing this.
17:19 Speaker 03 Yeah.
17:19 Speaker 04 And once-
17:20 Speaker 03 And how many years ago was that?
17:22 Speaker 04 Oh God, I think that was like seven years ago.
17:24 Speaker 03 Okay.
17:25 Speaker 04 So it's been a while.
17:26 Speaker 03 Did I read somewhere correctly that you're self-taught in sewing?
17:29 Speaker 04 Completely, yeah.
17:30 Speaker 03 That's incredible.
17:30 Speaker 04 We just went on YouTube. By the way, you can learn anything from YouTube. It's like-
17:33 Speaker 03 Isn't it the best?
17:33 Speaker 04 My water heater broke. How do I fix my water heater YouTube?
17:36 Speaker 03 Perfect.
17:37 Speaker 04 Like anything.
17:37 Speaker 03 I feel like, I feel like this, like the younger generation has transitioned to TikTok.
17:42 Speaker 04 TikTok, to learn things.
17:43 Speaker 03 And I'm like, I don't, I don't-
17:45 Speaker 04 We started with Ask Jeeves.
17:46 Speaker 03 Right? Gosh, what a throwback.
17:49 Speaker 04 Math class, always going in like, Ask Jeeves, like, what is 2 plus 2?
17:53 Speaker 03 But I don't want to have to like re-watch the same 60 second video a million times. I want to watch a YouTube video.
18:00 Speaker 04 100%.
18:01 Speaker 03 I genuinely-
18:02 Speaker 04 Y'all are obsessed with YouTube.
18:03 Speaker 03 I want to see all of it.
18:04 Speaker 04 Every part of it.
18:05 Speaker 03 Yes.
18:05 Speaker 04 Yeah, so I literally started from there, like how to throw out a machine.
18:08 Speaker 03 Yes.
18:09 Speaker 04 Everything. Like what kind of tool should I buy?
18:12 Speaker 03 If you had to pick one piece that's been your favorite?
18:15 Speaker 04 That's like the toughest question. It's like picking your favorite child.
18:17 Speaker 03 Right? Depends on the day.
18:20 Speaker 04 Yeah.
18:21 Speaker 03 Let's narrow it down. Outside of things that you've made for yourself. So things that you've, you've made for other people, maybe commissioned pieces. Um, what was your favorite one that you've made?
18:31 Speaker 04 I have to say, of course, my puffer coats is like what I love.
18:34 Speaker 03 Right.
18:34 Speaker 04 But at the same time, like I have made so many silhouettes that I, I maybe love more. The puffers is kind of what like got me so much momentum. So I have to pay homage to them.
18:46 Speaker 03 Now, for the people who said that there wasn't a space for what you were doing.
18:52 Speaker 04 Yeah.
18:53 Speaker 03 Do you not feel like a little bit of like a-
18:55 Speaker 04 Oh my God, they're all in my inbox. Hey, following up. It's like, hey, so sorry we didn't answer you three years ago.
19:00 Speaker 03 Yeah.
19:01 Speaker 04 Following up, would love to collab.
19:02 Speaker 03 Yeah, are you like kiss my ass?
19:04 Speaker 04 Yes, 100%.
19:04 Speaker 03 You should a little.
19:05 Speaker 04 100%.
19:06 Speaker 03 I do think that like
19:08 Speaker 04 Thanks hun.
19:08 Speaker 03 Right?
19:09 Speaker 04 That's it.
19:10 Speaker 03 Thanks hun for the
19:11 Speaker 04 Thanks hun.
19:12 Speaker 03 For the DM, but I'm actually really busy.
19:14 Speaker 04 Yeah.
19:15 Speaker 03 I do, I think that like, sometimes it's so funny to see what the messaging was.
19:23 Speaker 04 Yeah.
19:24 Speaker 03 Just as short as like you said, like three years ago, like the idea that three years ago, someone was like, there isn't space for this.
19:31 Speaker 04 Yeah.
19:32 Speaker 03 And then to go to the NFC championship game in Philly and see how many people had your puffers.
19:38 Speaker 04 Really?
19:38 Speaker 03 Both like the jacket and the vest.
19:40 Speaker 04 So I haven't been in a stadium yet.
19:41 Speaker 03 I'm telling you firsthand. They were everywhere.
19:45 Speaker 04 That makes me so happy. I have to get you one.
19:47 Speaker 03 And well, here's the thing, I, I was just excited to see them. Like I'm like, of course I would wear. And everyone was raving about the quality, which I think is
19:56 Speaker 04 Which is what we like really, which is like took so much time on it.
19:59 Speaker 03 But that's
20:00 Speaker 04 We really launched it in the worst possible time. It's funny because we picked the teams back in, um, April and we were so fortunate that besides my 49ers, which was pretty devastating, all four teams were in the playoffs and we launched the company in the playoffs.
20:16 Speaker 03 Right.
20:16 Speaker 04 So there was a chance that we were launching
20:18 Speaker 03 You manifested this is what you're saying.
20:20 Speaker 04 We, I have never rooted for those five teams so hard in my life. The way I'm like, EA, Chiefs.
20:27 Speaker 03 One of us.
20:30 Speaker 03 Now, um, now you, you said you picked five teams.
20:35 Speaker 04 Yeah, back in April of last year.
20:37 Speaker 03 What does that look like going forward? Are you guys going to integrate all 32 teams?
20:41 Speaker 04 We're trying, but like, I want to walk before I run.
20:43 Speaker 03 Sure.
20:44 Speaker 04 And what was so important to me was making sure people loved them.
20:46 Speaker 03 Yes.
20:46 Speaker 04 And I'm learning so much still as I go. Of course, like, I've never made, I've, I've only hand sewn things before. So learning like how to manufacture things and to scale sizing, you know? So I want to make sure I get everything perfected before I keep adding more teams.
21:04 Speaker 03 Sure.
21:05 Speaker 04 I mean, we've had amazing feedback.
21:07 Speaker 03 Yes.
21:07 Speaker 04 But there's, I mean, I'm perfectionist. So I'm like looking at like every little detail like I got to Fix that, I gotta fix that.
21:12 Speaker 03 Yes, but I think that that quality is what will have people gravitate towards a brand even more because it means that you care about the product.
21:20 Speaker 04 Oh yeah, they're my, they're my babies, they're my children, those jackets, those jackets. But we have so much more to come. Like, my goal, of course, is to hopefully expand all 32 eventually. And then we have so many drops coming out that are not jackets. I mean, the jackets are amazing, but there's only certain teams that, Miami Dolphins aren't gonna put puffer coats.
21:38 Speaker 03 Yes.
21:38 Speaker 04 So we have so much like amazing, um, different types of silhouettes that I'm so excited for. And, and lower price points too.
21:44 Speaker 03 You can tease to us?
21:46 Speaker 04 Shh, oh, am I gonna get?
21:49 Speaker 03 An exclusive?
21:52 Speaker 03 If you check with your team after the fact, we'll just blur your mouth.
21:54 Speaker 04 Yeah.
21:55 Speaker 03 So go ahead.
21:55 Speaker 04 Um.
21:57 Speaker 03 And you'll still get to see my reaction. I'll be so excited. Go ahead.
22:00 Speaker 04 Well, I don't know if I have anything like that, like jaw dropping, to be honest, but we're gonna hopefully, like, post-draft, we'll have drops every month.
22:08 Speaker 03 Okay, so like, regular?
22:10 Speaker 04 Regular drops every month of different silhouettes, adding some teams in there. And then hopefully venture.
22:17 Speaker 03 So are you gonna stick with the, are you gonna stick with those five?
22:20 Speaker 04 We're always gonna, yeah, we're just gonna always add.
22:21 Speaker 03 The first time that we met?
22:23 Speaker 04 Yeah.
22:23 Speaker 03 We ran into each other.
22:25 Speaker 04 At the WNBA game. Oh, no, at the NCAA game.
22:29 Speaker 03 Final Four for women's basketball.
22:31 Speaker 04 So much fun.
22:32 Speaker 03 Which, hopefully, we can plug in a, a picture of your jacket.
22:37 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah.
22:37 Speaker 03 For that, cuz it was incredible. Queen Emma's giving me a thumbs up.
22:40 Speaker 04 It was the most epic game to be there. It was freaking packed. There was not one seat empty.
22:45 Speaker 03 No.
22:46 Speaker 04 And it was just epic to watch that game.
22:47 Speaker 03 It was incredible to me how many people were there that you would not necessarily expect.
22:54 Speaker 04 100%.
22:54 Speaker 03 To be at the NCAA.
22:56 Speaker 04 Right.
22:56 Speaker 03 Women's basketball finals.
22:57 Speaker 04 Amazing. And we were there, well, Claire and George is one of our best friends, and they went to Iowa. So the Hawkeyes.
23:03 Speaker 03 It does, it does make it more fun.
23:06 Speaker 04 So much more fun.
23:06 Speaker 03 When you have a reason to cheer for a team.
23:09 Speaker 04 A hundred percent. It always makes it more fun.
23:11 Speaker 03 Yes.
23:11 Speaker 04 My whole family, I don't really come from like a big football background. And my nona, who's 90 years old, she's like, you have me watching NFL? And she loves it just because of Kyle, of course.
23:21 Speaker 03 Yeah.
23:23 Speaker 04 But that was the best.
23:24 Speaker 03 Getting new fans left and right.
23:25 Speaker 04 Yeah, right.
23:25 Speaker 03 Dragging them in.
23:26 Speaker 04 Hundred-year-old women, it's the best.
23:27 Speaker 03 Yeah, that's the demographic they're going for, actually.
23:29 Speaker 04 Yeah, definitely, yeah, definitely.
23:30 Speaker 03 Um, one of the other things that we highlighted in your intro was the work that you do with breast cancer.
23:38 Speaker 04 Yeah.
23:38 Speaker 03 Tell us a little more about that.
23:40 Speaker 04 Yeah, so my mom passed away of breast cancer when I was in high school. So it's definitely something that's near and dear to my heart. And when I started gaining all that momentum back at the Super Bowl, I got licensed and I had two weeks before the Super Bowl. I'm like, I can't put anything out there, so let me just make one and I'll donate anything to charity. And my goal was $5,000. I was like, if this hits $5,000, that would be amazing. It went for $75,000.
24:07 Speaker 03 Yeah, it did.
24:07 Speaker 04 Which was insane.
24:09 Speaker 03 That's incredible.
24:10 Speaker 04 And so to give that to the National Breast Cancer Foundation, it felt like, oh, I cried like a billion times that weekend. It just felt like such a moment for me to give back. I've always wanted to get involved and I've done a lot of like charity work, but to be able to really give that, it's changed so many women's lives. Like it all went to free mammograms and it was just so amazing. And I got to visit them in Texas, their headquarters. And they make these hope kits that it basically is like a, it's a chemotherapy kit. So it has like the sour candies and the fuzzy socks and all that. And we got to make them for all the patients. And they are just so incredible to work with and something so near and dear to my heart. I mean, my mom was sick my whole life, so I saw her in and out of chemo my entire life.
24:53 Speaker 04 So just to be able to like connect with other patients and really their family members too, because I think a lot of people, of course, think of the patient and what they're going through, you know, is really challenging, but it's challenging for everyone around them too.
25:05 Speaker 03 Right.
25:06 Speaker 04 So I really got to get involved like in the community. I still am with all, with everyone's families and it's just, they're the best organization to work with. I adore them so much.
25:16 Speaker 03 That's awesome.
25:16 Speaker 04 Yeah, and there's so much amazing that is like they do, you know, it's night and day. They're always the hope kits, the family meetups, the therapy sessions, so.
25:27 Speaker 04 It's never end is we're constantly working with them.
25:30 Speaker 03 That's amazing. Well, thank you for doing that.
25:33 Speaker 04 Oh, of course.
25:34 Speaker 03 The other families that you're impacting are are probably very, very grateful.
25:38 Speaker 04 And everyone go get your screenings. It's so important and it's so easy to not, I think, like when you sometimes at least I'm this way, like I'll go to the doctors three times in a week and then I won't go for three years.
25:51 Speaker 03 Yes.
25:51 Speaker 04 I just it's it's something so hard. There's nothing worse than like booking doctor's appointments.
25:55 Speaker 03 Yes.
25:55 Speaker 04 But it's so important.
25:57 Speaker 03 Now, one of the things that we have talked about with a couple other guests.
26:03 Speaker 04 Yeah.
26:03 Speaker 03 Is the idea of being an NFL wife.
26:06 Speaker 04 Okay.
26:08 Speaker 03 I personally do not identify as a wag.
26:12 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's a tough word.
26:13 Speaker 03 First of all, I'm retired, so I don't have to anymore.
26:16 Speaker 04 You're retired.
26:19 Speaker 03 But I've always found that there is
26:22 Speaker 04 A derogatory term.
26:22 Speaker 03 A certain degree of like a negative connotation with the term wag.
26:26 Speaker 04 Yeah.
26:27 Speaker 03 And the sad part is is that I don't think that everyone intends it.
26:31 Speaker 04 No.
26:31 Speaker 03 But the vast majority is usually in some type of negative capacity.
26:38 Speaker 03 How how has it been for you being in that role?
26:44 Speaker 04 Yeah. You know what I've always found so interesting about that word is that like there's not a word that describes like a lawyer's wife or like, I don't know, any other type of profession. Where did that come from, right? And for me, I take such pride in what my husband does and I love supporting him. It's my favorite thing in the world, but that doesn't that's not the only person that I am. I'm my own individual. So I think it's it's definitely that word like it makes me crawl out of my skin, truly. I think it always has. And but I do feel like we are doing a great job recently of redefining that word.
27:19 Speaker 03 Absolutely.
27:20 Speaker 04 And but it's it's just like There has been so much female empowerment around, whether that's the NFL, women, women in sports. So it's, I mean, now I feel honored. I try to. As we're getting, we're getting there.
27:35 Speaker 03 To be clear, you are the perfect example of doing your part in redefining that term.
27:41 Speaker 04 We have to, because by the way, you've, how many amazing women have you met in the Eagles organization? Probably some of your best friends.
27:49 Speaker 03 Countless, countless women.
27:50 Speaker 04 And the, why that word has a negative tone to it. It's like, these women are the backbone of these athletes.
27:57 Speaker 03 Yes.
27:57 Speaker 04 And they're making everything else spin so that they can focus only on their career and being successful on the field. So they should be praised for that.
28:05 Speaker 03 Right.
28:06 Speaker 04 It shouldn't be anything negative. And they're holding down the fort, having babies during season, you know, taking all that. That in itself is a full-time job.
28:15 Speaker 03 Allowing life to continue while football is existing, because those are two very different situations. And football requires your undivided attention.
28:26 Speaker 04 Undivided attention. And it really is year-round too. Like offseason is so short for them.
28:31 Speaker 03 Yes.
28:32 Speaker 04 And it's not like they just get to turn off. They have to train.
28:35 Speaker 03 Offseason, most of, like, I think a lot of people don't realize that most of the guys are, I mean, Jason only used to take, I would say like two weeks off.
28:43 Speaker 04 Yeah.
28:43 Speaker 03 After season, to just sort of decompress.
28:46 Speaker 04 Yeah.
28:47 Speaker 03 Let his body have a break. He would be right back on his lifting schedule.
28:51 Speaker 04 100%.
28:51 Speaker 03 And it was usually four days a week.
28:54 Speaker 04 It's brutal.
28:54 Speaker 03 Yeah. And it's, I mean, like a regular schedule.
28:57 Speaker 04 Absolutely.
28:58 Speaker 03 Um, where I think people are just like, oh, it's offseason. You go on like bougie vacations and sit on your ass. It's like, no, we, we did that.
29:06 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah.
29:07 Speaker 03 In the two weeks.
29:08 Speaker 04 In the two weeks. Yeah, exactly. But I mean, honestly, I've met so many amazing women in the NFL. I mean, some of my truly best friends for life and the families that come together, like the word wag has been, now, now I love it. Now when people call me that. But I remember when I first met Kyle, I was like, oh, please don't call me that. I hate that word. Stop.
29:28 Speaker 03 Yeah.
29:29 Speaker 04 Yeah.
29:29 Speaker 03 It was, it's, it's almost the idea that like that term.
29:34 Speaker 04 It also puts a ceiling, puts a ceiling on you almost.
29:37 Speaker 03 Very much.
29:38 Speaker 04 I kind of found that when I first started this whole thing. It was almost like, some people think that I have an advantage because of Kyle, but I don't, I really do feel like in the industry, it's been a disadvantage for me.
29:49 Speaker 03 I was gonna say, I feel like you were probably dismissed.
29:53 Speaker 04 Strongly, actually, very much so.
29:54 Speaker 03 Because it's like, oh, she's just trying to have a hobby.
29:57 Speaker 04 A hundred percent, or she's just crafty, I hate that word. Crafty, like, this isn't seventh grade home ec.
30:04 Speaker 03 She's doing DIY projects in her living room, it's fine.
30:08 Speaker 04 Yeah, a hundred percent.
30:09 Speaker 03 Um, yeah. No, I think that you are doing an outstanding job of helping to redefine that term and make sure that it's, uh, more of a positive note.
30:18 Speaker 04 A hundred percent.
30:19 Speaker 03 Because so often, I think the term wag pigeonholes women into, you are defined solely by your husband's career, or your significant other's career.
30:32 Speaker 04 And you can't have a life of your own outside of that.
30:34 Speaker 03 Well, that's just it, I think, I do think that there are, there are some women, very sadly, who get sucked into that hole of thinking that they should be defined by their spouse or their significant others.
30:47 Speaker 04 Hundred percent.
30:48 Speaker 03 Role on the team, uh, like, how many years they've been there.
30:54 Speaker 04 I think you get lost so easily in that, and that was what was hard for me. When, when I moved out to California, I left all my, I'm from New York. All my friends and family are from New York. I didn't know a single person out in California. I had to leave my job. So now, I'm living in California, just moved out there. He has a full slate schedule, and I'm like, well, who am I?
31:14 Speaker 03 Yeah.
31:15 Speaker 04 What do I do?
31:16 Speaker 03 I really do think, like, that it's becoming more and more clear
31:20 Speaker 04 Yeah.
31:21 Speaker 03 that the women who are associated with players in the NFL specifically, because I can't speak for every other league, but the NFL specifically, I mean, even the Eagles alone, like, we have women who are traveling nurses, like, travel nurses, we have lawyers, we have
31:38 Speaker 04 Doctors.
31:38 Speaker 03 women who are pursuing degrees to either be a doctor, to be a lawyer, to be a P A.
31:43 Speaker 04 Yeah.
31:43 Speaker 03 And It's so silly to me that just because you are with someone that you then get pigeonholed into like, oh, you're a wag.
31:52 Speaker 04 Yeah, and that defines you and that's all you are. It's so archaic, but
31:58 Speaker 04 because that's not the world we live in at all. But for some reason in the athletic world, that's how people view females in it. I also feel like it's a very team by team thing in the sense where a lot, some teams do such a good job at bringing women together.
32:15 Speaker 04 And I think that is what's so important. We came to the 49ers eight years ago and it was a completely clean slate. They had just hired Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch. So I think it was like a really challenging year because there was not that like vet on the team. There was no leadership.
32:34 Speaker 03 I always say like a, like a flock without a shepherd. It's just like a flock of sheep that are like mindlessly wandering and you're all like, uh, who's gonna do it?
32:45 Speaker 03 Who's planning the holiday party? Anybody? Anybody?
32:51 Speaker 03 It's crazy to be in those moments of like, where you're just sort of like looking at each other. Nobody wants to step on toes. Nobody wants to be the person that sort of oversteps. But at the same time, you're like, we can't just
33:06 Speaker 04 You need a community to lift you up.
33:09 Speaker 03 And I think it's, I, I agree with you. I've heard, we were lucky enough to, my husband was with the Eagles. Yes. And I am so fortunate for that because of the community that we had there. But I've heard varying stories across the league of
33:29 Speaker 04 Me too.
33:29 Speaker 03 Women's moving cities. And having clear favorites just based on the vibe.
33:36 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah.
33:37 Speaker 03 And the leadership and how they led the other women.
33:42 Speaker 04 When we first came out to the 49ers, I had never, and to be fair, I was in college when Kyle was with the Ravens. And they were a great organization to Kyle. I had never really like met anybody. And when we came to the 49ers, Kyle Shanahan throws a party when he, with the 53 man roster at his house. And I was like, we're meeting the head coach? I've never met the head coach. We're like at his house. And that starts the year off on the best tone. It's like, it's with all coaches. It's so family oriented. And he learned it from his dad. His dad did that and it's just passed down, passed down to him. But it is the best thing ever. And it starts the year off on the, you know, right note.
34:24 Speaker 03 Yes.
34:24 Speaker 04 Cause I have always found that the organizations that really put the families first are the most successful organizations. Because if you're not happy at home, if you're a player and you're coming home to a miserable wife.
34:37 Speaker 03 Guys, happy wife.
34:39 Speaker 04 Yeah, happy life.
34:40 Speaker 03 This is not difficult.
34:42 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah. Happy team. But it's so true. Those are the most successful organizations.
34:46 Speaker 03 Right.
34:46 Speaker 04 I think we just solved something.
34:48 Speaker 03 We did. I mean, the Philadelphia Eagles are very much, and like the time that we've been there, and I think Jason can attest to it even before I, he and I were together, has been like very family focused.
35:01 Speaker 04 Yeah, isn't it the best?
35:01 Speaker 03 It's, it's so refreshing.
35:03 Speaker 04 Yeah.
35:04 Speaker 03 Because I think that they realize how much football, although it is their career and their job and they get to go to work and then come home, how much of it comes home with them.
35:13 Speaker 04 Oh, 100%.
35:15 Speaker 03 So addressing that is really, I think, important.
35:18 Speaker 04 Definitely.
35:19 Speaker 03 Um, also how much time they're away, like to feel included to some degree.
35:23 Speaker 04 Yeah.
35:23 Speaker 03 Makes you feel a little less like you're out on an island.
35:26 Speaker 04 100%. So during COVID, it was so fun for me to like listen to Kyle's meetings and stuff.
35:31 Speaker 03 Yeah.
35:31 Speaker 04 It's another language, by the way.
35:32 Speaker 03 Oh, the.
35:33 Speaker 04 No idea what the heck they're talking about. They're like chair, zebra, cat.
35:36 Speaker 03 I'll tell you what.
35:37 Speaker 04 It's a different language.
35:38 Speaker 03 Jason's online coach, Coach Stoutland, the, the whole Stoutland family. But getting to hear Stout and getting to listen into meetings, I was like, this is the best thing I've ever heard.
35:47 Speaker 04 Isn't it, wasn't it so much fun?
35:48 Speaker 03 Oh, it's fascinating.
35:49 Speaker 04 Loved it, but I couldn't understand a word they were saying.
35:51 Speaker 03 No.
35:52 Speaker 04 But I love it. The play calls, it's like, what is this?
35:55 Speaker 03 It was.
35:55 Speaker 04 I told Kyle recently.
35:56 Speaker 03 I didn't get much.
35:57 Speaker 04 I love football and I know football really well, but of course there's a lot of things I don't know. And I, I was like, I want you to teach me how to play Madden so I can like learn the plays because I'll see things, but like.
36:08 Speaker 03 That's actually a great strategy to learn.
36:10 Speaker 04 Right?
36:11 Speaker 03 Yes.
36:11 Speaker 04 As they line up, Claire knows so much. She's so like, the way George lines up, she knows the play that he will play. And I, I can't see that. I know so much about that, but I'm like, I want to learn how to play Madden. So you're gonna catch me next week with like a headset on, sunflower seeds and energy drink. I wish I could like play Madden.
36:29 Kylie Kelce? We'll see you. That's where you stay in the caves.
36:32 Speaker 04 That's what I'm crawling out of my cave.
36:34 Kylie Kelce? Got it.
36:34 Speaker 04 Kyle will never be more attracted to me in my life if I start playing Madden.
36:37 Kylie Kelce? It's perfect. It really is a great strategy to learn.
36:40 Speaker 04 I think so. That's me. He's like, that's how I learned as a kid.
36:43 Kylie Kelce? That's awesome.
36:43 Speaker 04 And then I'll know every player in the league.
36:45 Kylie Kelce? Right. Well, then you'll be even more.
36:48 Speaker 04 You want to join?
36:49 Kylie Kelce? Even better. Yeah, even better prepared to do, uh, to do more, more merch.
36:53 Speaker 04 Yeah, exactly. With the PA, I'll know every single player.
36:56 Kylie Kelce? Exactly. I'm not one to give myself compliments. Kind of built a brand around that. Uh, but this sweatshirt I'm wearing in this conversation with Kristen, just a fantastic choice. Lululemon for the win. When I'm not in the third trimester of my pregnancy and I'm in my regular workout routine, I'm also wearing Lululemon when I train. I absolutely cannot wait to get baby girl out, resume my hot girl walks in my hottie hot high-rise line short in the orange. Cause she's a modest hottie hot girly. Um, also huge fan of the five inch track that high-rise line short.
37:39 Kylie Kelce? Yes. I have it. If, if you like it, you just get it in another color.
37:46 Kylie Kelce? I've done that. I'm looking forward to getting back to my training routine and I also can't wait to try some of Lululemon's new glow up tights when I do. Visit your local store or shop online at lululemon.com to get your glow up tights today. The last thing we'll do is a segment I like to call keep or cut.
38:03 Speaker 04 Okay.
38:05 Kylie Kelce? Again, because of your fashion knowledge, uh, I will go through and it's a little bit like rapid fire.
38:10 Speaker 04 Okay, let's do it.
38:12 Kylie Kelce? I do think some of these I know the answer to, but I just want you to declare it. Because again, these are things, a lot of these things are things that I would not personally wear, but it's just because like, it's not my personal style.
38:26 Speaker 04 Subjective.
38:27 Kylie Kelce? Yes.
38:27 Speaker 04 I love it.
38:29 Kylie Kelce? Crop tops.
38:30 Speaker 04 Cute. You're like, hate.
38:33 Speaker 03 No, I don't hate them. I don't. I think that the, the fact that like high waisted pants are more readily available now.
38:41 Speaker 04 Well, my whole, I guess I said I didn't have a style. People probably know, I wear a crop top and baggy jeans, probably like anytime I go out. So I guess that is kind of like my style.
38:50 Speaker 03 I will say, like, the high waisted.
38:52 Speaker 04 Yeah.
38:52 Speaker 03 But after having four children, I fear I am, I need a little time before I can get myself back in a crop top. So.
38:59 Speaker 04 Oh, I was gonna say, I thought you were gonna say high waisted jeans. I was like, where are you gonna go, low rise?
39:03 Speaker 03 Well, I, no, no, no. Oh, God, no.
39:06 Speaker 04 I mean, that is a look with the belly out.
39:08 Speaker 03 I, with the pregnant belly out. With the pregnant belly out. The Rihanna, you mean?
39:13 Speaker 04 The Rihanna. Next podcast, please.
39:15 Speaker 03 It will not be me. It will not be me. I'm always like lubed up with so much cocoa butter. I always say.
39:21 Speaker 04 Is that your go to?
39:23 Speaker 03 I, cocoa butter, you could, I just told someone the other day, you could send me down a dry slip and slide and I'd get to the end of it. Like, it is disgusting how much they're.
39:31 Speaker 04 Do you use oils ever?
39:32 Speaker 03 No.
39:33 Speaker 04 Okay.
39:34 Speaker 03 Because I'm afraid it'll stain my clothes.
39:35 Speaker 04 And your bed sheets and stuff. I actually feel that to my core.
39:38 Speaker 03 Yeah. And I'm fighting the good fight with children staining my clothes and myself, really, honestly. Like, who am I fooling? It's, it's me and the kids.
39:47 Speaker 04 I get it. I get it.
39:48 Speaker 03 Yeah, there's a serious threat for stains.
39:49 Speaker 04 Make that a trend, stain clothes?
39:51 Speaker 03 Yes.
39:51 Speaker 04 Should we start that?
39:52 Speaker 03 Perfect. They'll be like, is your shirt tie dye? And I'll be like, no, it's belly oil. Thank you.
39:56 Speaker 04 There used to be a thing back in like, a few years ago, sneakers, like, do you remember they would drop sneakers that looked dirty? I don't know if you've seen that, but yeah. So why don't we have shirts that like have stains?
40:07 Speaker 03 Perfect.
40:07 Speaker 04 It's basically the same thing.
40:09 Speaker 03 Do that as one of your releases.
40:11 Speaker 04 All season releases. Call it the Kylie drop.
40:12 Speaker 03 Thank you so much. The next one is tiny sunglasses, keep her cut.
40:17 Speaker 04 How tiny are we talking?
40:18 Speaker 03 I mean, like, really tiny? I have to say cut.
40:23 Speaker 04 Only because I can't pull it off.
40:26 Speaker 03 I feel like it needs some function.
40:27 Speaker 04 Oh, it needs some function.
40:29 Speaker 03 But like you can't have it so small that it doesn't serve a purpose.
40:32 Speaker 04 I think Travis rocks those tiny sunglasses that he wears sometimes, but I.
40:36 Speaker 03 But he's so fashionable.
40:37 Speaker 04 He is very fashionable.
40:39 Speaker 03 And in a way where like there are things that, and this happens all the time. There are things that I see other people wear and I'm like, that is so cool.
40:47 Speaker 04 I'm the same way though. I can never pull off those little sunglasses. Like the triangles, never. I can't do it. But he looks amazing in them.
40:56 Speaker 03 It must be nice to be able to own something so hard. Um, leopard print.
41:04 Speaker 03 I am, I will tell you honestly, this would be a cut for me.
41:07 Speaker 04 Personally, cut. I wore, I wore a leopard dress to my eighth grade formal.
41:13 Speaker 03 I was just gonna say, I still remember.
41:15 Speaker 04 And that was probably the last time I wore a leopard.
41:17 Speaker 03 I still remember a leopard print dress. It was like the sisterhood of the traveling dress around our college dorm.
41:22 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah, yep, yep.
41:23 Speaker 03 And every, and every.
41:25 Speaker 04 I haven't worn leopard in a really long time.
41:27 Speaker 03 I think we should maybe keep it that way.
41:29 Speaker 04 Okay, yeah, there we go. Okay, cut.
41:31 Speaker 03 We'll cut it.
41:31 Speaker 04 Cut it. You're gonna see me on leopard next week.
41:34 Speaker 03 Right. I'm gonna be like, I thought we cut this.
41:38 Speaker 03 This one I feel strongly about. Uh, Uggs, keep or cut?
41:41 Speaker 04 Oh, keep, keep, keep, keep.
41:42 Speaker 03 Thank God.
41:42 Speaker 04 I have my Uggs here in my, uh.
41:44 Speaker 03 I have, they're like a security blanket.
41:46 Speaker 04 Are my favorite thing ever.
41:48 Speaker 03 I'll tell you what, for a tall girl in high school, when you, when you started folding over the Uggs and then like the yoga pants would sit on the top of it, then you couldn't tell that I looked like a flood was coming. Uh, every pant was too short and that helped.
42:03 Speaker 04 Every high schooler's uniform.
42:05 Speaker 03 It was great.
42:06 Speaker 04 And it still is my uniform every day. I wear my Uggs slippers every single day. Kyle yells at me because I wear them outside. He's like, they're not slippers anymore. If you wear them outside and you wear them inside, I'm like, pick your, pick your battles here.
42:19 Speaker 03 All right. So we'll keep Uggs.
42:20 Speaker 04 Keep, keep.
42:20 Speaker 03 The last one, and I, again, I feel like we know this one because of the OG Halloween costume.
42:25 Speaker 04 Okay.
42:26 Speaker 03 Denim on denim.
42:26 Speaker 04 Oh, keep, keep.
42:27 Speaker 03 Perfect.
42:28 Speaker 04 A million times over. The Canadian tuxedo is everything.
42:31 Speaker 03 I love that.
42:32 Speaker 04 And it is hard though, because sometimes.
42:34 Speaker 03 Different washes?
42:34 Speaker 04 Yeah, that's challenging. I actually think it takes a certain person to pull it off.
42:39 Speaker 03 It's not me.
42:40 Speaker 04 I think it can be. Give it a shot, Kylie. Please.
42:44 Speaker 03 I'll just start putting things up.
42:45 Speaker 04 I'm, yes. Okay, perfect.
42:46 Speaker 03 Okay.
42:47 Speaker 04 I'm gonna put you in low rise jeans, belly out, sheer top, Uggs. We're gonna do it all.
42:55 Speaker 03 That wraps up Keep or Cut. I cannot thank you enough for coming to chat today. I want to make sure that I give you your props on really leading the way for and helping to further the image that women who are with football players or professional athletes in general, that you are building this empire and you're
43:18 Speaker 04 Thank you. Don't make me cry.
43:19 Speaker 03 Well, you're answering a call that needed to be answered, no matter who told you whatever they said three years ago.
43:26 Speaker 04 Yeah.
43:26 Speaker 03 And it's so much fun getting to see you be creative and to see people appreciate that and get to hype you up appropriately.
43:35 Speaker 04 And right back at you. I love how raw you are. It's the most refreshing thing. And I think that's why you resonated so well with the whole world, because that's what we need. No one wants to see anything polished, right? We're so over it. We don't need to see that or we don't need to hear it. So I love everything you stand for. I listen to every one of your episodes. It's just the best thing ever.
43:53 Speaker 03 You have another one.
43:55 Speaker 04 I will definitely not listen to this because I can't stand listening to my own voice. Is that a thing for you? Do you listen to your podcast?
44:01 Speaker 03 Not in its entirety.
44:03 Speaker 04 Yeah, you're like, ah, don't tell them that.
44:05 Speaker 03 Emma is appalled.
44:07 Speaker 04 Listening to your own voice is challenging.
44:10 Speaker 03 It's interesting.
44:11 Speaker 04 I listen, I'm like, oh, God, I was like nails on a chopper.
44:13 Speaker 03 Well, I can tell you right now that I am absolutely certain that the NGLers are going to love this one. And I can't thank you enough for coming to join us.
44:21 Speaker 04 Thanks, Kylie. You're the best.
44:22 Speaker 03 You can find even more clips from our conversation on my YouTube channel on More Ship Monday. I also chose four finalists for the fanbase name. Find out which one I picked on Monday. And that's a wrap on another episode of Not Gonna Lie. I'll be back next Thursday with a brand new episode. Spoiler alert, it's another good one. We have a little NGL field trip planned and I can't wait to reveal who our guest is. I am so hyped, so hyped. I can't even contain myself. Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Follow the show on all social media at NGL with Kylie. Not Gonna Lie is a Wave original brought to you by Lululemon. Thank you, guys, again for tuning in.
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