#650 - Jake Paul

Jake Paul is a professional boxer, entrepreneur and content mogul. His promotion MVP will host its first ever MMA card live on Netflix May 16th. Jake joins Theo to talk about how his family has navigated their unique fame, his reaction to the callout from Nate Diaz, and why he thinks comedy will save America. Jake Paul: https://www.instagram.com/jakepaul/ ------------------------------------------------- Tour Dates! https://theovon.com/tour New Merch: https://www.theovonstore.com ------------------------------------------------- Sponsored By: Celsius: Go to the Celsius Amazon store to check out all of their flavors. #CELSIUSBrandPartner #CELSIUSLiveFit https://amzn.to/3HbAtPJ Perplexity AI: Ask anything at https://pplx.ai/theo Prize Picks: Go to https://link.prizepicks.com/LME0/THEO and use code THEO to get $50 in lineups when you play your first $5 lineup! Play Responsibly. Moonpay: Head over to https://www.moonpay.com/theo to sign up IQBar: Text THEO to 64000 to get 20% off all IQBAR products, plus FREE shipping. Message and data rates may apply. American Giant: Go to http://american-giant.com and use code THEO for 20% off your first order. Valor Recovery: To learn more about Valor Recovery please visit them at https://valorrecoverycoaching.com/ or email them at [email protected] ------------------------------------------------- Music: “Shine” by Bishop Gunn Bishop Gunn - Shine ------------------------------------------------ Submit your funny videos, TikToks, questions and topics you'd like to hear on the podcast to: [email protected] Hit the Hotline: 985-664-9503 Video Hotline for Theo Upload here: https://www.theovon.com/fan-upload ------------------------------------------------ Find Theo: Website: https://theovon.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/theovon Facebook: https://facebook.com/theovon Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thispastweekend Twitter: https://twitter.com/theovon YouTube: https://youtube.com/theovon Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheoVonClips Shorts Channel: https://bit.ly/3ClUj8z ------------------------------------------------ Producer: Zach https://www.instagram.com/zachdpowers Producer: Trevyn https://www.instagram.com/trevyn.s/ Producer: Nick https://www.instagram.com/realnickdavis/ Producer: Andrew https://www.instagram.com/bleachmediaofficial/ Producer: Halston https://www.instagram.com/halstonrays/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:30Theo Von?

  Uh, just a reminder that, um, tickets for Bus Boys, the movie, uh, with myself and David Spade, um, are on sale right now. Pre-sale tickets, you can get them. Um, it's in theaters April 17th. But if you get tickets now, it'll show the movie theaters that we're gonna sell them, uh, or that they are selling, and then we can expand to more theaters. So, if you know when you're gonna go and, um, and you can support, that would be great. And no pressure if you can't. Uh, again, the pre-sale tickets are available. Uh, busboysmovie.com. Um, I'm excited, thank you. Today's guest is a Renaissance man. He's a content creator, uh, an entrepreneur. Um, he's a professional boxer.

• 1:15Theo Von?

  And he has political aspirations, possibly. Uh, we'll find out. Uh, this is my first time getting to sit down with him and really, uh, have a talk. So, I'm grateful for that. Today's guest is the problem child, Jake Paul.

• 1:45Theo Von?

  It's a pro-creating name for everybody. Can you believe they let anybody make a kid? That's wild.

• 1:54Speaker 02

  I I think it's a massive problem. Just like anyone could have a kid.

• 1:59Theo Von?

  It is crazy, bro.

• 2:01Speaker 02

  Like.

• 2:03Speaker 02

  When I look at people, I'm like, yo, what the fuck is this guy doing? He's got a fucking kid? He's gonna raise this kid? The kid's gonna be worse like?

• 2:13Theo Von?

  Well, we'll talk about Logan after a while, dude, but. I'm talking about just in general. I'm just joking, Logan. But I'm talking just about in general, dude. Yeah, the fact that they don't put birth control in the suboxone, first of all, or something like, like methadone with birth control. You think they're just, and if you don't finish school, you shouldn't get more than one kid.

• 2:38Speaker 02

  There should, there should be like a certificate that you gotta, you gotta fill out some paperwork first to get a kid, bro. To be honest, you gotta pass IQ tests, honestly, or some shit like that.

• 2:47Theo Von?

  Yeah, even a low IQ test would be good.

• 2:51Speaker 02

  Ah, these, these people and, and, and by the way, it's like the movie Idiocracy, which by the way, is like fully coming to life.

• 2:57Theo Von?

  Yeah. You mean the historical drama Idiocracy? Yeah. I mean, yeah, I agree. It was like a, it used to be a comedy movie, but now it's like.

• 3:06Speaker 02

  It's art now.

• 3:07Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 3:08Speaker 02

  It's like, oh, my God. We're here.

• 3:11Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 3:11Speaker 02

  Like, and by the way,

• 3:15Speaker 02

  Brondo, like the electrolyte drink in it is like prime.

• 3:20Theo Von?

  Bring it up.

• 3:21Speaker 02

  It has electrolytes.

• 3:23Theo Von?

  Bring up Brondo. That's hilarious.

• 3:26Speaker 02

  Bro.

• 3:27Theo Von?

  Bring up a clip from that.

• 3:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, look at the president with the machine gun.

• 3:33Theo Von?

  This looks fucking good.

• 3:34Speaker 03

  The Brondo's not working. Now, I'm no botanist, but I do know that if you put water on plants, they grow. Well, I've never seen no plants grow out of no toilet. That's good.

• 3:44Theo Von?

  Yeah, this is where we are. Yeah, that's a prime, uh, business meeting right there.

• 3:51Theo Von?

  Or that's no, I'm joking, but that, yeah, it's where we are.

• 3:53Speaker 02

  And by the way, we're Celsius partners.

• 3:55Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 3:56Speaker 02

  We love Celsius.

• 3:57Theo Von?

  Are you Celsius partner?

• 3:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:58Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 3:59Speaker 02

  Me and you both.

• 4:00Theo Von?

  I'll have a little. I gave a little to my buddy's cat the other day.

• 4:03Speaker 02

  How did it do?

• 4:04Theo Von?

  He likes kind of the cherry cola flavor. He didn't have a lot.

• 4:07Speaker 02

  Did it like do something cooler or no?

• 4:09Theo Von?

  I mean, we haven't seen him, so. This cat is really, it's a wild cat. He's a BLM activist.

• 4:16Speaker 02

  That cat was living fit, bro. Like he just disappeared.

• 4:19Theo Von?

  He hit a gym like thirty miles away, so.

• 4:22Speaker 02

  He turned into a fucking Iron Marathoner.

• 4:25Theo Von?

  Dude, he's dating a dog now. He's crushing it, dude.

• 4:31Theo Von?

  Yeah, it's changing, it's changing the anabolic sex order, dude.

• 4:37Theo Von?

  Dude, good to see you. Dude, I saw this picture of you the other day. See if you can pull this up. There was a picture of a, of a pet that we saved, speaking of pets, that one of them looked like you.

• 4:49Theo Von?

  And tell me if you think it's fair or not, and this is, I'm not.

• 4:54Theo Von?

  That's pretty good.

• 4:54Speaker 02

  That one?

• 4:55Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 4:57Speaker 02

  I would say that's a, that's, that's a, that's a great compliment.

• 5:00Theo Von?

  Yeah, that's.

• 5:00Speaker 02

  I thought it was gonna be much worse. I thought you were gonna show like a fucking lemur or something.

• 5:07Theo Von?

  Something on his last leg or something?

• 5:11Speaker 02

  I was like, I'm honored that this is, he thought of me, bro. Bro, cuz every time I look at you, I just see Joe Dirt, so.

• 5:21Theo Von?

  The soil's rich. Yeah, dude, I do feel like Joe Dirt. Me and Spade have a movie that we made that's coming out.

• 5:28Speaker 02

  I'm so excited for it.

• 5:29Theo Von?

  We're excited.

• 5:29Speaker 02

  Bus Boys?

• 5:30Theo Von?

  Yeah, Bus Boys. So we made it ourselves and everything, so that's exciting.

• 5:34Speaker 02

  Was that hard, by the way? Did that make it harder to like self-fund and stuff like that? To make the movie?

• 5:41Theo Von?

  Like what part of making it, getting it done, or getting it in theaters, or getting it?

• 5:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, theaters, I think, yeah, all of it.

• 5:46Theo Von?

  Getting it theaters, I think people were, some people called and were like, dude, how'd you guys get it in the theaters? You know? And so that part I think was kinda tough. The tough parts were just all of the spaces you have to stay involved with. You think like, oh, somebody else does that, and you're like, oh no, there's no, there's nobody else. And so it just falls back on you. I'm sure it's.

• 6:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, are you nervous, like, for the outcome? Because I think, you know, like, you just see a lot of movies with the biggest names these days, with super big budgets and the, you know, all the people behind them, and then it flops. Like, are you nervous about that?

• 6:23Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 6:23Speaker 02

  Cuz it's public. Like even, I've had a couple of fights where it's like the pay-per-views weren't as good, but it's private info.

• 6:33Theo Von?

  Yeah, I think there's a part of me like, I like to be like kind of in control of what I do, right? And so that's why I was waiting to do something where it's like, um, we wrote it, we made it, it's our own thing. So at least in the end, I do feel like we did a good job and I got to do it with somebody really like, who's amazing and like established in that universe.

• 6:56Theo Von?

  Yeah, I think it is scary because you don't want it to affect how people think about you or feel about you. They may just not be like, I care about seeing a movie this weekend. And it's almost to the weekend, like nobody buys a ticket for a movie three weeks in advance. I thought we'd put it out and be like, oh, it'll all sell out like a, like you, like maybe with a comedy show. But with a movie, it's like you kind of have to wait till that weekend. It's probably similar with like a pay-per-view.

• 7:20Speaker 02

  No, a hundred percent. And we actually like base our fights around making sure there's no other big events. Um, like the last fight on Netflix, like third, third biggest fight ever with Joshua, 35 million viewers live. But it was the same weekend as Avatar, the same day. So it plays into it. Like would we have gotten five million more viewers? It's just something interesting to think about, but um, sometimes you can't choose another date.

• 7:52Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 7:54Theo Von?

  Yeah, we just, yeah, I think I'm definitely a little bit spooked about it. I'm a little, uh, I'm nervous about it. I'm also kind of excited about it. And if, I think if it doesn't go great, it's okay. It's like, you know, I hope it does because we want to be able to make more stuff and help other people make more stuff that don't get like, like there's no studio attached to it. It's like, nobody told us anything we could put in or out of the script.

• 8:19Theo Von?

  So it's all our own thing. So.

• 8:21Speaker 02

  So it's not woke?

• 8:22Theo Von?

  Yeah. It's not woke, dude. We got an eight-year-old saying f*** it in it, you know? And I don't, you know.

• 8:29Speaker 02

  Bro.

• 8:30Theo Von?

  And he didn't mean it.

• 8:31Speaker 02

  Yeah. And by the way, you paid him to say it.

• 8:34Theo Von?

  Yeah, that's true.

• 8:35Speaker 02

  So you're invoking abuse.

• 8:38Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 8:38Speaker 02

  Theo.

• 8:39Theo Von?

  But we paid him handsomely, you know?

• 8:42Speaker 02

  You paid him enough.

• 8:43Theo Von?

  Hey, we didn't touch him.

• 8:44Speaker 02

  Honestly, though, honestly.

• 8:46Theo Von?

  We're already better than half of them.

• 8:47Speaker 02

  This is my problem with people saying the word fat.

• 8:50Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 8:50Speaker 02

  Is that like, I would never say it.

• 8:53Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 8:54Speaker 02

  Like, so. It's just like fucked up to say fat.

• 8:58Theo Von?

  Oh, yeah, I don't say it.

• 9:01Theo Von?

  So, uh, but yeah, let's, uh, what else is going on?

• 9:05Speaker 02

  What don't you say?

• 9:07Theo Von?

  I don't say it. I'll say it really. I will say it very fast because some people are wondering what I don't say. And I'm not gonna be, and you won't even know when I'm gonna say it, so.

• 9:15Speaker 02

  Fat.

• 9:17Theo Von?

  That was it.

• 9:20Theo Von?

  And I didn't even say it, so. And who knows, I might be a homosexual when I get older, after I get married and leave my wife.

• 9:30Theo Von?

  So.

• 9:31Speaker 02

  And that's why you're fucking smart. Cause you're hedging, like.

• 9:37Theo Von?

  Yeah, yes, I'm doing it.

• 9:38Speaker 02

  You're saving, you're an investor, you're a forward thinker.

• 9:42Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 9:42Speaker 02

  You're literally a Renaissance man because at least you can fucking admit that you might be a fat later in life.

• 9:50Theo Von?

  Whoa, bro. I'm not gonna be some crazy.

• 9:55Theo Von?

  I will be just a guy who is doing his best, who fucking is pissed off at one of his friends and lets him fucking jerk him off one time. I'm not gonna be some guy who's holding hands and going to like a market or something.

• 10:10Theo Von?

  So anyway, now that our careers are both over.

• 10:15Speaker 02

  Nah, we still got Celsius, dog. They'll never leave us.

• 10:18Theo Von?

  Oh, dude, two sips of this will come on your buddy's back.

• 10:23Theo Von?

  Um, dude, you see that, uh, did you see that Druski skit? What'd you think?

• 10:29Speaker 02

  You know what's so funny? Is that I wanted to talk about this with you.

• 10:34Theo Von?

  Really?

• 10:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 10:36Theo Von?

  I mean, this shit is crazy. When she starts doing that.

• 10:43Speaker 02

  What are your thoughts?

• 10:47Theo Von?

  I thought, um, it's so bizarre. It's one of his more bizarre videos. I mean, it's, it's hilarious, dude. She's in this space. I wish it had gone a little more into like the stuff with the husband and what could have happened, but I don't think black people like mess with people's families and shit that much. They don't go into that kind of area very much. Um, yeah, I mean, Drewski's just, you never know what he's gonna do, bro. And this sets that precedent like, like nothing else. I mean, look at this, bro. This could be fucking You Were Logan in 40 years, dude.

• 11:23Theo Von?

  You know what I'm saying?

• 11:27Theo Von?

  And not in a bad way, dude. Y'all look good.

• 11:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, honestly.

• 11:32Theo Von?

  Dude, this is Hulk Hogan's whole family in one picture, dude.

• 11:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, honestly, it's fucking hilarious. I loved it. And I'm, I'm obviously Republican and like all the Republicans being mad about this shit is like a fucking L for Republicans because this is fucking hilarious. And even though it's fucking dark and twisted, um, and it's, and it's not maybe the, the, it's, this is what comedy fucking is.

• 12:03Theo Von?

  Yes.

• 12:04Speaker 02

  Like, this, we are fucking humans. Let's make fun of ourselves and there's truth in this.

• 12:11Theo Von?

  Yes.

• 12:12Speaker 02

  And, and extreme truth. And people weren't ready for that, but, but, uh, I, I think it's fucking hilarious. And, um, I want to ask you something because I've been, over the last couple of days,

• 12:32Speaker 02

  calling, um, makeup artists and I was gonna do a response to this and like go and do like the full on.

• 12:41Theo Von?

  Darker?

• 12:41Speaker 02

  Yeah. And do it, and just do it back because why not?

• 12:46Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 12:46Speaker 02

  Like, are we on the same playing field? Like?

• 12:50Theo Von?

  I think if you, if there's a way to do it, oh, this isn't well, this, even this sentence, but if there's a way to do it, I've been here many times. If there's a way to do it, I think, yeah, I think there needs to be some black support for.

• 13:08Theo Von?

  The character, I think, like I'm saying, like, say if, uh, Drusky or, um, I'm trying to think of somebody else.

• 13:19Speaker 02

  Charles Barkley.

• 13:20Theo Von?

  Charles Barkley. If you got one of those guys to be like, hey, D, I want you to do this skit with me, let's do this.

• 13:26Speaker 02

  But, but still, that's, that's pussying out.

• 13:28Theo Von?

  You think it is?

• 13:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 13:30Theo Von?

  To me, there's a level of like-

• 13:32Speaker 02

  Do- doesn't that make

• 13:36Speaker 02

  us more, um, like prejudice?

• 13:42Theo Von?

  Oh, like more prejudice?

• 13:43Speaker 02

  That makes us, if we have to partner with someone, Drusky just dropped this.

• 13:49Theo Von?

  And he's done it a couple of times, actually.

• 13:52Speaker 02

  I fucking love it. This is great. This is how humans should be.

• 13:56Theo Von?

  I agree.

• 13:57Speaker 02

  We should fucking make fun of each other. And I don't see in color, I see in truth and comedy. So like, what are we talking about?

• 14:06Theo Von?

  So you're saying that-

• 14:07Speaker 02

  What era are we living in?

• 14:08Theo Von?

  Dude, Justin Trudeau didn't, he's, he's freaking dating Katy Perry. You see that, Justin Trudeau, the mayor of freaking Canada?

• 14:16Speaker 02

  I was just with them, I was just with them.

• 14:17Theo Von?

  No, you were not.

• 14:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, at the, at the JP Morgan Summit.

• 14:20Theo Von?

  He was B face and look at him right there in the middle. Look at the one in the hat in the middle lower.

• 14:23Speaker 02

  He got caught for this before?

• 14:25Theo Von?

  Yeah, look how dark he went.

• 14:27Speaker 02

  I mean, he went. But, but to be fair, that picture's in black and white, so we can't tell how dark he went, but.

• 14:36Theo Von?

  That's fair. That's kind of fair.

• 14:40Theo Von?

  What about Jimmy Kimmel when he was blacking around over there? Bring that up, huh? Hey, hey, hey, look at him just blacking. I mean, look at that, even the cross eyes.

• 14:49Speaker 02

  That's Jimmy Kimmel?

• 14:50Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 14:51Speaker 02

  That's not Shaq.

• 14:53Theo Von?

  That ain't fucking Shaq, dude. That looks healthier than Shaq.

• 14:59Speaker 02

  That is no way that's Jimmy Kimmel. Oh, God, bro. And look, bro, and look, by the way.

• 15:06Theo Von?

  That is Jimmy Kimmel.

• 15:06Speaker 02

  Look at fucking Jimmy Kimmel. Fucking on the left, untouchable.

• 15:11Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 15:13Speaker 02

  What the fuck, bro?

• 15:14Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 15:14Speaker 02

  Wow, how can they get away with this shit?

• 15:17Theo Von?

  The shit that pisses me off, it's like, like, kids can't be black for Halloween, dude. You know, like, a kid, it's his favorite athlete, he never grew up with anything racist in his heart or anything.

• 15:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, and he wants to, he wants to be LeBron.

• 15:29Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 15:29Speaker 02

  On the Halloween. This kid is just like, fucking getting penetrated by haters.

• 15:36Theo Von?

  That's the problem, there's too many haters out there. But, look, Drusky's doing this shit, craziest one he did was the one where he spit on a black guy out of a car dressed as a white guy. You see that one? Bring up that country.

• 15:49Speaker 02

  I didn't see that one.

• 15:50Theo Von?

  He drives up.

• 15:52Speaker 02

  But, bro, honestly, bro?

• 15:54Theo Von?

  No, no more.

• 15:55Speaker 02

  This is insane.

• 15:56Theo Von?

  No more honesty from you, dude, right now.

• 15:59Speaker 02

  Nah, I got a lot more.

• 16:01Theo Von?

  Oh, hold on, there's enough, look at this part right here, yeah, after this.

• 16:05Speaker 02

  Bro, how many?

• 16:06Theo Von?

  Right here, watch this.

• 16:08Speaker 04

  You lost, bro? No, I'm going to the race. What race? NASCAR race. You going to NASCAR? Yes, sir. Hello, Chris?

• 16:19Speaker 04

  You ain't lost, did you?

• 16:20Theo Von?

  What the fuck is going?

• 16:22Speaker 04

  Sure about that?

• 16:23Speaker 02

  Okay, so, this brings up the actual point of like,

• 16:29Speaker 02

  it's time. This is where we need Bruce Buffer, dude.

• 16:35Theo Von?

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• 19:39Speaker 02

  People tell me that a lot.

• 19:41Theo Von?

  Yeah, dude.

• 19:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 19:42Theo Von?

  You're blacker than a Logan.

• 19:45Speaker 02

  That guy is white.

• 19:47Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 19:49Speaker 02

  I mean, he's basically Hulk Hogan.

• 19:51Theo Von?

  Oh dude, he is probably. I went to Hulk Hogan's funeral.

• 19:58Theo Von?

  Which is pretty crazy. But anyway.

• 20:00Speaker 02

  Did you, uh?

• 20:02Theo Von?

  Oh dude, at his funeral, nobody knew Jim McMahon was there.

• 20:09Theo Von?

  And, uh, who's Jim McMahon?

• 20:12Speaker 02

  Vince McMahon?

• 20:13Theo Von?

  Vince McMahon. Jim McMahon showed me his asshole one night. He used to play for the Bears. He showed me his asshole one night at a, uh, yeah, yeah. Shout out Jim.

• 20:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:24Theo Von?

  He showed me his asshole and I didn't even ask about it and-

• 20:27Speaker 02

  What, what? So how did he show you his asshole?

• 20:29Theo Von?

  It was outdoors. He was reenacting something and, uh, and he showed me his asshole, but he's awesome.

• 20:35Speaker 02

  Honestly, the, the, the more people I meet in life and like-

• 20:39Theo Von?

  He showed me his Richard Dent, you know? That's just an old Bears player who played at the same time and that's just such a crazy statement. Okay, go on. The more people-

• 20:46Speaker 02

  No, yeah, the more, the more people I meet, the more weird, like I think, yeah, like people are fucking weird, bro.

• 20:52Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 20:53Speaker 02

  And they wanna show assholes.

• 20:55Theo Von?

  People do.

• 20:57Speaker 02

  Bro.

• 20:57Theo Von?

  It's the 11th fingerprint.

• 20:59Speaker 02

  So this is the problem is like, I was raised right in a sense, but like-

• 21:05Theo Von?

  What?

• 21:06Speaker 02

  Bro, I'm saying, I'm saying like, the, the richer you get, the less, um, normal experiences become for you. So you have to do something different.

• 21:18Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 21:19Speaker 02

  To feel something.

• 21:20Theo Von?

  Hmm.

• 21:20Speaker 02

  And I don't fall under that category, but a lot of these people do, bro.

• 21:25Theo Von?

  You seem like you're trying to like, take yourself out of the files right now or something.

• 21:32Theo Von?

  Well dude, you gotta, I'm sure you run into some wild shit, dude.

• 21:40Theo Von?

  I'm just saying.

• 21:41Speaker 02

  Bro, you caught me.

• 21:43Speaker 02

  You fucking caught me, bro. You're good, you're good, you're good. It's a mall that I think it makes you smarter.

• 21:51Speaker 02

  Fuck, bro, you caught me, bro.

• 21:53Theo Von?

  That's my new character, it's a black detective.

• 21:56Theo Von?

  He figures it out. Encyclopedia Brown is fucked, dude, that's who he is.

• 22:01Speaker 02

  You're fucking genius, bro.

• 22:04Theo Von?

  No.

• 22:04Speaker 02

  You caught me, bro.

• 22:06Theo Von?

  You and I should not be declaring anybody a genius, bro, we are fucking.

• 22:09Speaker 02

  Wrong.

• 22:11Theo Von?

  Nah, you're just saying something loud. You're just saying something definitively.

• 22:14Speaker 02

  No, no, no.

• 22:15Theo Von?

  Bring up that fish that's in a wheelchair, have you seen that? Bring up that wheelchair fish, somebody built a.

• 22:20Speaker 02

  Bro, if you don't think you're a genius, then you should like have some self-reflection. Do you, do you actually not think you're a genius?

• 22:29Theo Von?

  No, not at all. Not at all.

• 22:32Speaker 02

  That's a big problem for yourself.

• 22:34Theo Von?

  Look at this, look at this bitch they got. You don't think anything's possible, dude?

• 22:39Theo Von?

  Look at this bitch. He trying to fight that thing next, dude, look at that motherfucker.

• 22:43Speaker 02

  This is a perfect opponent for me. Wheelchair and two IQ is, is who I'm looking to fight.

• 22:52Theo Von?

  He still has a one fight deal with the UFC, but you gotta fucking.

• 22:55Speaker 02

  We'll get him out, we'll face him out.

• 22:58Theo Von?

  But this is what we're fucking living in, dude. People can't eat and we're fucking building fish wheelchairs, bro.

• 23:07Theo Von?

  So anyway, and that's also.

• 23:08Speaker 02

  I'm not gonna lie, though, like.

• 23:11Theo Von?

  And you know what the fish's name is, dude? Joe Biden, that's the craziest part.

• 23:17Speaker 02

  That makes sense why he's in a fucking wheelchair. This is, this is comedy gold, like.

• 23:23Theo Von?

  Oh, it's comedy gold fish, dude, we're fucked. We're fucked, dude, this is horrible. All we've done is, is lobby for fucking blackface.

• 23:34Speaker 02

  This whole pod?

• 23:35Theo Von?

  And nothing else, dude. But we're gonna keep it moving, man. Do you think, um?

• 23:42Theo Von?

  Okay, let's, let's start over. Okay, do you think Erica Kirk had anything to do with the husband's death? Let's switch it up.

• 23:50Theo Von?

  Let's switch it up. And that's mouthwash, you know, but yeah, keep having some.

• 23:53Speaker 02

  I love Listerine, bro.

• 23:55Theo Von?

  It's a fucking good stuff, that's a new Listerine Green Apple.

• 23:58Speaker 02

  Bro, you.

• 24:00Theo Von?

  You're funny, dude.

• 24:02Speaker 02

  I don't know if you can ask that question.

• 24:03Theo Von?

  Pretty funny. Okay.

• 24:06Speaker 02

  I don't know. I'll talk about a lot of things, but I I don't think I'll talk about Charlie Kirk and his assassination and the sensitive details around it.

• 24:19Theo Von?

  Oh dude, I don't even wanna fucking talk about it. It's just on our list of stuff. So I'll keep it moving.

• 24:24Speaker 02

  Some AI, you chat GPT what to ask Jake Paul. It told you this. What will go most viral?

• 24:34Theo Von?

  It said things Jake Paul could handle. And yeah, one of them was frizz golf. One of them was, oh, the Tiger Woods DUI. That was kind of crazy. Let's let's let's brush on that because people deal with addiction, people deal with that stuff. It's something I've dealt with. Um, that was kind of a surprise to me. I was kind of surprised to see that, you know? Have you ever played golf with Tiger?

• 24:55Speaker 02

  No, um, I don't. No, I don't play golf. I I mean, bro, like, it's a second time thing for him, right?

• 25:02Theo Von?

  Yeah, but it's been like a decade since the last time. So it just seems like maybe he was going through a tough patch.

• 25:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's tough, bro. It's tough.

• 25:10Theo Von?

  Did you ever struggle with anything like that?

• 25:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, for sure, for sure. Like, um, especially when I was younger, there was a phase where um, I was just like going through a really rough time in a lot of ways in life. Um, suicidal, um, lost a lot of money and had terrible people around me.

• 25:39Theo Von?

  And so that was a that was a time that you were what were drinking or it was like a thing? Cause I've been in, you know, like, I've been in sobriety, in and out of sobriety over the past like 10 years. It's a fucking tough road, you know? And you try your best. I've been in like shit for like uh, sex, love addiction, intimacy disorder, all of that shit, you know? I should probably be in like a fucking wheelchair or whatever, you know?

• 26:01Theo Von?

  And that's real talk, man. Praise God.

• 26:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 26:03Theo Von?

  Praise God.

• 26:06Speaker 02

  No.

• 26:07Theo Von?

  Damn.

• 26:07Speaker 02

  It's but but see how you're healing with it and you're sitting here today doing great things in life and people love you and I love you and you're a genius and you're an amazing guy and you just like worked through it, but you're like honestly healing with it. It goes back to like comedy.

• 26:25Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 26:25Speaker 02

  That's why you're funny as fuck and you're making fun of yourself and it makes it acceptable to your traumatized version of yourself.

• 26:37Theo Von?

  Hmm.

• 26:39Speaker 02

  So, yeah, but I've been in dark places as a kid, like it's the funny like Disney star crash out bankrupt, money, money, money, bad people around you, drugs, alcohol, party, LA, girls, girls, girls.

• 26:57Theo Von?

  Tip, yeah.

• 26:58Speaker 02

  And it just like, it's like a fucking cycle out there. So my, my biggest advice to people is don't fucking live in LA and like go into that ecosystem. Um, because I'm a product of it, but it's not me. I, I had to um, heal from it and like, but it, it, it's just was going to happen that way. So, um, no matter who goes out there, no matter who they are, it's not their fault, but like they become looped into that system and will end up unhappy and most likely addicted to a bunch of shit and um,

• 27:40Speaker 02

  yeah, it's, it's a, it's a sad thing chasing validation.

• 27:44Theo Von?

  Hmm.

• 27:44Speaker 02

  I met this person at this party. I want to be famous. I met this guy. I took a photo with them. It's just like a fucking dead end. Um, so, um.

• 27:56Theo Von?

  Yeah, I think that energy overall in society is starting to change a little bit. I think we're starting to realize that there's not.

• 28:04Theo Von?

  Like all this like collection of moments and even items and even finances while we're here there's not a really the depth of value to it isn't uh it's a kiddie pool, you know?

• 28:18Speaker 02

  So, so, yes, I, I was at the, um, the summit this past weekend in Montana and I, I was taking a piss next to Jeff Bezos and my, my, uh, my dad always said to me like since I was a kid, famous people put their pants on the same way.

• 28:35Theo Von?

  One leg at a time.

• 28:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, and so I realized like, bro, he's I love him, by the way.

• 28:42Theo Von?

  Really? Is he a neat guy? I can't even imagine, I don't even know what his voice sounds like.

• 28:47Speaker 02

  He, he's just fucking, he's, he's awesome, bro. He like shaped the world and he's going to continue to do that, but, um, I just realized when we were peeing next to each other, like, bro, we're just peeing next to each other. Just my fucking, just my homie.

• 29:05Theo Von?

  But you're fucking piss potting him, bro, yeah.

• 29:08Speaker 02

  We're just like Jeffrey, Jeffrey Bezos. I was gonna start singing it out loud, but I didn't have the confidence. I was about to start singing his song. And then I texted my friends like, yeah, I just pissed next to Jeffrey and they were like, did you grab his dick? Like, it's just all a joke, bro. It's just all a joke, bro.

• 29:26Theo Von?

  Did you fucking same day deliver that cock, you feel me? That's what I'm saying, bro.

• 29:30Speaker 02

  How prime was it?

• 29:33Speaker 02

  Like, but, bro, like, at the end of the day.

• 29:36Theo Von?

  Was it Logan or was it KSI?

• 29:39Theo Von?

  That's just a further on the prime joke, but, um,

• 29:43Speaker 02

  I got it.

• 29:44Theo Von?

  Thanks, dude. But, dude, I remember one time I pissed next to fucking Kid Rock, dude. And I was like, fuck, I thought I'd made it, dude.

• 29:53Speaker 02

  That, that's what I mean, but it's also funny to like, these people like that are so, um,

• 30:01Speaker 02

  In the media and I like find myself in this in this category often like people think they know me. They have so many ideas about who I am or what I am. But like, bro, at the end of the day, we're all fucking humans and like seeing these people like eat. Like even just seeing Jeff Bezos eat was just like funny. It's like, yeah, okay.

• 30:23Theo Von?

  Or watching him whisper to somebody?

• 30:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, exactly. Like he has to whisper, he has to eat. Bro, he's just one of us. Like, he's just a guy's guy.

• 30:31Theo Von?

  Yeah. Does he seem like a guy's guy, kind of?

• 30:35Speaker 02

  For sure, yeah. He seems super cool.

• 30:37Theo Von?

  Somebody said he seems kind of Asian. One of my buddies met him a couple of times. They said he seems kind of Asian.

• 30:43Theo Von?

  Did he seem like that to you?

• 30:46Theo Von?

  At all?

• 30:48Theo Von?

  Not fully or not? Yeah, yeah.

• 30:51Speaker 02

  So I couldn't tell when he was peeing, like how tight he had to grip it?

• 30:55Theo Von?

  Oh, yeah. If he had a headlamp on?

• 31:01Speaker 02

  So, yeah.

• 31:05Speaker 02

  That's crazy, bro. I don't know. That's the only way I could tell if he was Asian. He's like, he's like five eight, five nine.

• 31:14Theo Von?

  Okay, so he's what, probably a welterweight?

• 31:16Speaker 02

  Also, his, his wife, like, I think has a weird, like, public persona. Um, and their whole relationship, bro, it just goes back to fucking media, but she was awesome and smart and nice and uh, very intelligent and, um, I don't know, it's just weird how the media paints everyone and it's, it's actually sad because I even had a preconceived notion of these people because it's just like indoctrination. And you see enough things where you just like start to conform to that idea. But. Then you could just be so wrong.

• 31:56Theo Von?

  Yeah. Oh, I, I think that that happens a lot, you know? It's easy to get addicted to that, too. One of the things that I think is most important right now is,

• 32:07Theo Von?

  the, the value of our own attention. What do we put our attention on, you know? Because it's easy to sit there and just absorb all the bullshit and be like, here's a picture of Lauren Bezos or Jeff Bezos and, you know, there's this an article and there's no even repercussions for anything more. It's like, she just got her tits done. He just got his head done or whatever. And you're just like, okay. But you, you know what I'm saying? But most people just, we believe it. It's like, I've found myself believing stuff and it's like, this is, you know, I'm sure you've read things about yourself that are astronomically outrageous.

• 32:36Speaker 02

  A hundred percent. This is, I think the word you said that is key is like repercussions, like, there needs to be some form of punishment for invalid commentary on anything.

• 32:53Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 32:53Speaker 02

  Um, and this is why I started suing people. Cause, um,

• 32:59Theo Von?

  Have you had a lot of NIL type, like that sort of issues? Or just people saying stuff?

• 33:03Speaker 02

  People mostly like rigged fights and, and steroids and fake fights and like this type of thing. It's like, bro, do I look like I'm on steroids? Like,

• 33:13Theo Von?

  No, I don't think you're on steroids.

• 33:14Speaker 02

  I'm a chubby kid, like, do, do, you know how legal it is within all of these commissions to rig fights? Like you guys are actually fucking stupid, but I can't say that to them. And then even when I'm like sitting here now defending myself, it, it feels like that they're gonna look at it and be like, of course he would say that.

• 33:37Theo Von?

  Right.

• 33:37Speaker 02

  Um, so I'm, I'm just suing people because that's when the truth comes out. Is like, let's, let's go to court.

• 33:44Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 33:45Speaker 02

  Let, let's actually look at the documents and see if my fights were rigged and get to the bottom of it. And I know I'll come out on top because they're not. And so,

• 33:56Theo Von?

  Yeah. And this, I'm gonna go delete an old tweet as well as you're saying this, but uh,

• 34:00Speaker 02

  Oh yeah. You, you did say that thing. I was like, fuck you for a second, bro. Yeah. I was actually mad at you. I was mad at you, but I was mad at you for saying that.

• 34:10Theo Von?

  Yeah. I can't remember if I did say it.

• 34:12Speaker 02

  Why though?

• 34:14Theo Von?

  Cause I think, yeah, I think it's exactly what you're saying. It was like, um, well, let me think about it. I don't know exactly what I said, but it was something like, yeah, I don't, or yeah, some-

• 34:21Speaker 02

  I actually remember this.

• 34:22Theo Von?

  It was a jab like that.

• 34:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, you did.

• 34:24Theo Von?

  It was a verbal jab like that. I'm sorry, man. Don't sue me also, please. And I will take it down, but like, um-

• 34:32Speaker 02

  But what, what, it's fine. By the way, it's fine. It's fine. But why? Like, what was the, cause, cause I, I look at it, to be honest, as another male who's insecure about me being successful, trying to take me down.

• 34:50Theo Von?

  Let me think about that for just a second. Let me really think about it.

• 34:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 34:54Theo Von?

  Yeah, why would I say, it was probably, it was like, um, it felt like probably a bandwagon-y type of thing, you know? I'm not using that as an excuse. I'm just saying that was probably part of it. Um, let me think. Oh, yeah, it's easy for me now in hindsight. Yeah, it's easy for me to like, um, just say something from, from here where I'm sitting here. I don't have to say it to his face. I don't have to be around him and say it because I wouldn't, I probably, I wouldn't do that unless I felt like it was a joking environment that was like, safe. Um, yeah. So those are probably the things, to be honest with you.

• 35:30Speaker 02

  And, and-

• 35:31Theo Von?

  And I think it would take us longer for me to sit here and, or, you know, it would take me longer to really probably sit and like, kind of think out what all the small parts were. But those honestly are the things that I'm thinking of off the bat.

• 35:42Speaker 02

  Yep. No, and, and, uh, like, appreciate your honesty and candidness around that, like, and, and it's, it is annoying for me because I fucking work my ass off in the gym, like, all the fucking time.

• 35:59Theo Von?

  I think, I mean, you came, I mean, like, there was a, there was a time where it was like, yeah, this, this guy isn't a real fighter. These are things that people would say. And then there's no, there's no person now, like, you disproved-

• 36:12Speaker 02

  But, but that's the thing is I could handle the not a real fighter because I'm like, fuck you, haha.

• 36:18Theo Von?

  Right?

• 36:19Speaker 02

  I could handle the, um, like, most of the things that people said, but then when I got so good that people couldn't believe what I was doing, that it turned to fake fight steroids. That really bothered me, to be honest. Um, I don't know why, like- It just like seemed like the polar opposite thing that people could say that would disprove it all. Um, so it was so far from truth and I think that's why I'm blessed by God. And like such a pivotal person in today's society is because I live by truth.

• 37:04Speaker 02

  And I think that when you do that, God continues to bless you. And I think the, the fake fights thing like is so far from the truth that it really bothered me.

• 37:16Theo Von?

  Yeah. I could see that. I could see that it would. Well, yeah, man, I'm sorry if I contribute to that.

• 37:24Speaker 02

  Bro, it's fine. It's fine. No problem.

• 37:27Theo Von?

  But I'm glad that we're talking about this because I do think that it's interesting. I think that, um, yeah, I think there's something like, uh,

• 37:37Theo Von?

  yeah, why like, yeah, why does that kind of shit like, why do we, or why have I acted that way? Why do we act like, why is, you know? Sometimes it's in just, it's getting involved in the conversation, but yeah, to think that there's not like, um, real repercussions or real like, just things that happen, feelings that happen. Do you, I think sometimes people, you guys are such good promoters over the years, right? And you guys have done a good job of continuing to evolve in, uh, entertainment and society. Like there's not a lot of people that have a 17 year lifespan in entertainment. And it may be longer. I'm, I'm not even sure how old you are.

• 38:17Speaker 02

  It's, yeah, it's been like 13 years.

• 38:19Theo Von?

  Yeah. I mean, to keep that and have a level that is like, one of the highest levels in different mediums. And then also I think people don't know, like, um, I don't know if people don't know, but it's tough to get people to reframe you into something that's different.

• 38:38Theo Von?

  I'm not using those as excuses. I'm just saying that there could be some of that in there.

• 38:42Speaker 02

  Bro, I'm not gonna lie, like if,

• 38:46Theo Von?

  I might have a little.

• 38:47Speaker 02

  If I, um, like saw me as another like young and up and coming male, I would like have jealousy of myself and be like, fuck this guy. He's got a jet and a gold medal fiance and the perfect life in 6,000 acre ranch. I would, I would have jealousy.

• 39:09Speaker 02

  It's human nature.

• 39:10Theo Von?

  Right.

• 39:11Speaker 02

  So I like get it like it just is what it is.

• 39:17Theo Von?

  I just think there could be some of that in there. Yeah. And yeah, I mean, it's like, um.

• 39:21Speaker 02

  It's weird and and also like.

• 39:24Theo Von?

  Does it help you keep going now? Is there some of it that keeps a chip on your shoulder?

• 39:29Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 39:32Theo Von?

  Cause I got.

• 39:32Speaker 02

  I'm not. I don't know what I'm motivated by anymore, to be honest. Yeah.

• 39:36Theo Von?

  That's interesting. I feel that sometimes.

• 39:39Speaker 02

  I think it's, I think it goes back to like helping others and like community. I'm a, I'm a big fan of Marcus Aurelius and I mean, the biggest thing he just says is like, your duty to society is the most important thing. And so I think that's where I've landed recently. Because I have like everything and.

• 40:07Theo Von?

  Like you have enough for yourself. You mean, you have what you need.

• 40:09Speaker 02

  Yeah. And, and, and my family and all of that. So like, I, I just go back to like the leader of the Roman Empire should probably listen to what he had to say. And one of his biggest sayings is I should, you know, your biggest thing is to be a, a part of society and make it a better place. So I think that's, that's maybe where I'm at these days.

• 40:41Theo Von?

  One thing that really um, kind of like touched me was the way your reaction and involvement with your fiance at the Olympics. I thought that was really cool, man. I think there was something like, just as a guy like you, a lot of guys I think don't probably do a lot of supporting of their girlfriends or spouses in certain ways. And uh, I thought something like that was really beautiful to see. I think we have, do you have anything of it? His wife won a gold.

• 41:08Theo Von?

  And they're cruising out there, are they cruising?

• 41:12Speaker 02

  Bro, they're cooking. Um, this is awesome, bro.

• 41:18Theo Von?

  How are you feeling? What was?

• 41:19Speaker 02

  Bro, so yeah, so like, honestly, um,

• 41:24Speaker 02

  yeah, it, it, it's, uh, the greatest moment I've ever witnessed as a human. Just like everything

• 41:35Speaker 02

  that happened and the way it played out was just nuts. And I know how hard she works and like how dedicated she is and how much every single day she's

• 41:49Speaker 02

  putting so much detail into her work and, um,

• 41:55Speaker 02

  the girl right before her, like two races before, set, sorry, set, set the Olympic record.

• 42:05Speaker 02

  So we were all like looking at each other like,

• 42:09Speaker 02

  oh my God, that was a fast time. She, she might not win right now. Like, what the fuck? Um, and then she just fucking comes out

• 42:21Speaker 02

  and sets the new Olympic record and fucking wins. Um,

• 42:27Theo Von?

  Let's go.

• 42:27Speaker 02

  And I could, I could tell that she was going to win like before everyone else because I like see her times. And so that's why I was like already crying and I was like, I, I don't cry.

• 42:40Theo Von?

  So there was some more buildup to it. It wasn't like just that exact moment. You could feel it coming on.

• 42:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, I could, you could see the, the speed and the times on the, on the, you know, digital board. So

• 42:54Speaker 02

  I knew maybe before anyone else and, um, bro, like I'm, I'm the one that has to like deal with her stress and problems and thoughts around the whole sport on a daily basis. So I knew how much it meant to her and yeah, it was just like witnessing fucking greatness at the highest level. And the coolest thing, representing her country, the Dutch people were all there screaming like all of it was just beautiful. Um,

• 43:24Theo Von?

  The Dutch are fucking aerodynamic, dude. I've always said that.

• 43:29Theo Von?

  They're very aerodynamic.

• 43:30Speaker 02

  You've been, you've been long on, on the Dutch.

• 43:33Theo Von?

  They're tall and they're nice. A lot of them are very aerodynamic. Pull up a Dutch, man.

• 43:38Speaker 02

  Bro, just, no, my.

• 43:42Theo Von?

  Pull up a Dutch.

• 43:43Speaker 02

  Honestly, you're just very aerodynamic. I'm not gonna lie.

• 43:45Theo Von?

  Look at this, Pat. Hold on. That's just a random Dutch. Zoom in on that guy on the right. Fucking Mr. Dutch right there. And fucking his little Dutch dime right there, boy. Donca Shane, homie. Donca Shane, that guy will fucking take on a wind right there. That dude will take on a fucking, a headwind in a heartbeat. You'll be back to Puerto Rico 10 minutes sooner if that guy was fucking attached to the front of your bird. That's for sure. Um, I think there was something, it was, that was a just.

• 44:17Speaker 02

  You're right, bro.

• 44:19Theo Von?

  Bro, they, I've known that since I was young. My mother told me that.

• 44:22Speaker 02

  That the Dutch were aerodynamic.

• 44:24Theo Von?

  Aerodynamic, she said it.

• 44:25Speaker 02

  What else did your mom teach you?

• 44:27Theo Von?

  What did she tell me? I don't know. She was always working. She would fucking drive by and yell at us. She'd like, go brush your teeth. She'd fucking be zooming by in her car and fucking yelling, dude. Brush your fucking teeth. We were just in the yard. We're like, we're not even inside right now. But she tried to parent the best she could, you know? She was just always like delivering stuff.

• 44:47Speaker 02

  No, I thought it was awesome too that you're like working on your, um,

• 44:53Speaker 02

  foundation, what is it with, um, Cat Williams or?

• 44:57Theo Von?

  Oh, yeah.

• 44:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 44:58Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 44:58Speaker 02

  And that, that's what I was saying, like, I'm just happy for your mother that she's gonna benefit.

• 45:07Theo Von?

  Yeah, I'm glad to see, mom, you're gonna get an afternoon off, dude. Yeah.

• 45:11Speaker 02

  Yeah. So what's the foundation again?

• 45:13Theo Von?

  Put that clip in. The foundation doesn't have a name yet. Nobody even knows those are coming out, but it, people are gonna be, um.

• 45:19Speaker 02

  It's benefiting the parents of autistic kids, right?

• 45:23Theo Von?

  Yup, we're gonna donate.

• 45:25Speaker 02

  Your, your family is gonna be up.

• 45:33Theo Von?

  Yeah, they are, dude. And there's other autistic people in my fucking family. We're calling those motherfuckers out. Dude, there should be a-

• 45:40Speaker 02

  All of them are gonna make hella bread based off of your organization. I- i- is Loki insider trading?

• 45:51Theo Von?

  Bro, I'm not gonna give you that one, dude. Fuck, bro. Dude, you're fucking, yeah. You're fucking funny, dude. This is fucking great.

• 46:00Speaker 00

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• 46:30Theo Von?

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• 47:14Theo Von?

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• 48:42Theo Von?

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• 50:08Theo Von?

  Their coaches are in long-term recovery and will be your partner, mentor, and spiritual guide to transcend these problematic behaviors. To learn more about Valor Recovery, please visit them at www dot Valor Recovery Coaching dot com or email them at admin at Valor Recovery Coaching dot com. Thank you. That was a special time. I'm glad you got to, I'm glad we all got to witness that and that you went there and showed up for that. If you didn't have any money, right? If you say you didn't have anything and you had to get, what would you get your girl for like a white, like a present or whatever you think?

• 50:49Speaker 02

  I wouldn't, I would write her a letter. I, I think that's still the most meaningful thing that you could do.

• 51:00Speaker 02

  Words think are the most important thing in love and yeah, I would just write her a letter.

• 51:08Theo Von?

  Yeah. Oh, uh, yeah, I saw that you sat with Vance at the Olympics. Vance is cool, huh?

• 51:13Speaker 02

  Yeah. Ohio guy.

• 51:15Theo Von?

  He's neat to be around.

• 51:16Speaker 02

  Yep. No, he's super normal, bro. Um, goddamn, he's pulling up the photos like.

• 51:23Theo Von?

  It's his fucking job.

• 51:24Speaker 02

  He, he, he's just, um.

• 51:26Theo Von?

  Just joking, Trevin, sorry. Um, yeah, I like being around Vance. He's been on here a couple of times. Do you think he's trying to position himself to be that next dog or what do you think?

• 51:38Speaker 02

  I thi- I think, yeah, of course, like, that's the nature of the game.

• 51:46Speaker 02

  And, yeah, like.

• 51:51Speaker 02

  He's a Yeah, if you're gonna, if you're the vice president, you're already playing the game. That's a dangerous game. So like

• 52:01Theo Von?

  It is.

• 52:01Speaker 02

  And, and I like dabble in it, which It's, it's scary cuz I don't wanna get fucking popped, but like And, and beyond that, like, there's so many things behind the scenes, brands, people won't even associate with you because of your political stance. Um, so it's a really interesting game to like play in, but he's already balls deep. So yeah, I think he's gonna jockey for president for sure.

• 52:33Theo Von?

  It's gotta be scary when you're that deep in.

• 52:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, it makes it easier when you have like fifteen securities around you and people have to get wanded just to talk to you, but like it's still weird. It's still weird, bro. Like, it's the weirdest thing in the world. Um, do you, yeah, have you You're playing, you're playing the biggest game of life.

• 52:58Theo Von?

  That's fucking true, dude.

• 52:59Speaker 02

  And

• 53:00Theo Von?

  And it's gotten dangerous.

• 53:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, and, and do you want to play that? And like, can you? Um, it's, it's, it's just really interesting, like.

• 53:11Theo Von?

  Is there room for you in that space? I saw something recently with you and Trump, where you guys were like, uh, kind of flirting or whatever, just palling around or whatever.

• 53:19Speaker 02

  We're, we're flirting. He's cute.

• 53:24Theo Von?

  No, I saw a thing where you guys, and he was giving you a lot of credit.

• 53:27Speaker 02

  I was nervous, like I was sweating, hella.

• 53:30Theo Von?

  Fuck. Yeah, it's gotta be a moment like that where you're like, okay, this is kinda wild.

• 53:38Speaker 02

  No, yeah, like, at, at that point, like, life didn't make sense. I had to like call my dad, uh, um, for him to ground me a little bit, but even he was like, bro, what the fuck? This is the coolest thing in the world. Um, yeah, I've been like flirting with the idea of politics just cuz I think it goes back to Marcus Aurelius of like helping society and like what, that's the number one thing you can do. Um, and

• 54:09Speaker 02

  It's become a joke like my, my business partner Jeff Wu. We have a venture capital fund together.

• 54:16Theo Von?

  Bring up Jeff, bring up Wu.

• 54:20Theo Von?

  And let's get a gander at him.

• 54:21Speaker 02

  Je, gee, yeah, yeah. Okay, there he is.

• 54:23Theo Von?

  There he is. Gee Wu, gee wounded.

• 54:27Speaker 02

  So six years ago, he was like, you're gonna become the president.

• 54:30Theo Von?

  No way he said that?

• 54:31Speaker 02

  Yeah. And then it became less and less of a joke.

• 54:37Speaker 02

  And then I started to realize like, oh my God.

• 54:44Speaker 02

  If, if, if I'm the best person to do it and can actually win, then like I might need to do it. I'm already playing the biggest games of life.

• 54:54Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 54:54Speaker 02

  So we'll dabble in that if it makes sense. And if there's like a Kamala running on the Democratic Party like fucking dumb ass

• 55:08Speaker 02

  uh, running and opposing, um, I will enter the game and, and risk getting assassinated, but I don't want to. So.

• 55:20Theo Von?

  Damn. And what would you wear like a, you couldn't wear like a helm or something. You'd have to have shields and stuff around you probably.

• 55:27Theo Von?

  You'd have to, how crazy would it be if to protect yourself to run, you literally had to like almost, like, I wonder if people running in the future, like live stream from a bunker, or do you know what I'm saying? Do their things from like a protected space because it's gonna get dangerous out there.

• 55:41Speaker 02

  Yeah. No, you're a thousand percent right. Like they're, they actually probably will. Like I, I, I, yeah, like I'm even scared just talking about this shit.

• 55:54Theo Von?

  Yeah. But I think we're getting to a place where I could see something like that happening. I could see you running. I could see something like that. I could see like, it does take something inside of people. I feel like that they feel a sense of a purpose and a calling to something. And if they can make sure that that's not just attached to their own ego and they can make sure that there is a sense of like, I can do something better and I'm willing to put myself out there to do that.

• 56:20Speaker 02

  Yes, and sign up for the hardest job in the world.

• 56:23Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 56:24Speaker 02

  Where. Your fucking fourteen hours a day just cranking it. I seen Trump, his energy is why he's there like he's a fucking legend in that, in that sense and it demands so much of you and will take away

• 56:43Speaker 02

  not only your life, but everyone that you're affiliated with. So you're also like signing your kids up for it. So like, I really don't want to do it, but like it, it's become like a funny joke that I would and then randomly Trump endorses me fully. Which someone texted me that said, like, you'd have to pay him a billion dollars to get that endorsement.

• 57:15Theo Von?

  And you got it for free right there.

• 57:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 57:17Theo Von?

  Pull it up. Let me see that little endorsement.

• 57:21Theo Von?

  This is pretty good.

• 57:23Speaker 02

  God is with us. I know he wants us on the right side of history. And everyone here has to do their part and God's got us, Trump's got us. God bless. Love you, Kentucky.

• 57:38Theo Von?

  You did a good job there, man. That's a fucking tough environment to be in, that kind of space. I mean, would it be something like you would run with advantage? I mean, do you think it's something like that? Or would you start as mayor of like, like northern Puerto Rico or something? Or do you, is there any talks or what is the concept, I guess? Sorry.

• 57:56Speaker 02

  Yeah. So you're actually are like super

• 58:02Speaker 02

  perceptive because yeah, that was my plan was to start in northern Puerto Rico.

• 58:08Theo Von?

  NPR dude. Which just got defunded.

• 58:13Theo Von?

  So put it back on the map.

• 58:15Speaker 02

  I, uh, I don't know. I honestly don't know.

• 58:18Theo Von?

  But it's just something like, it's like a, it's like kind of like a light in the distance right now?

• 58:23Speaker 02

  Yeah. And it just seems like

• 58:26Theo Von?

  We need heroes out there.

• 58:28Speaker 02

  Yeah. And, and like Charlie would have been the guy.

• 58:32Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 58:33Speaker 02

  So

• 58:35Speaker 02

  it's fucking sad, bro. He's fucking awesome.

• 58:39Theo Von?

  Did you spend time with him?

• 58:40Speaker 02

  No, no. Just followed all of his stuff, but like.

• 58:48Theo Von?

  You know what?

• 58:48Speaker 02

  He was like aiming for it, though. That I think that's the problem is like, I'm just a fucking kid from Ohio. That's a high school dropout like.

• 59:00Speaker 02

  If it makes sense at some point, then it makes sense and that that that was like his job. And his purpose and all of that.

• 59:09Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 59:09Speaker 02

  Um, and I loved that, but like it.

• 59:15Speaker 02

  You know, it if someone was like, this is like me becoming a world champion in boxing. Like it makes more sense than Jake Paul becoming president. Charlie Kirk was clearly gonna be the the next president. So I think that's part of the whole.

• 59:36Speaker 02

  Thing that.

• 59:37Theo Von?

  Right, the whole energy that's out there. Yeah.

• 59:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 59:40Theo Von?

  Yeah, that's a good point that somebody did they they there was probably people that didn't want to see that possibly occur. They didn't want to see that get to the next level or, yeah, there's a lot of. Uh, investigatory stuff about that. You know, some people say that it was like a a microphone on his lapel. That blew up and that that's what killed him. Um, and then that microphone was made here in Tennessee. And then two weeks after that, the factory was made at. Blue to smithereens. And like 16 people died, which is just a kind of a crazy like, that's one of the wildest kind of like. That's one of the most interesting theories that I've heard.

• 1:00:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, the the there's a lot of conspiracy theories out there these days. And I was just with some like bros in Minnesota. And they were kind of asking me about these conspiracy theories because they were like, oh, he knows more than than I do. Um, I think that a lot of it is fucking bullshit. And people just want something to like hang on to. Um, I I don't disagree on like certain points. But you have to be really smart and selective to. Decipher the conspiracy theories that are out there and like realize which ones have like even a little bit of truth.

• 1:01:02Speaker 02

  But why as a society like do we hang on to these so much like?

• 1:01:07Theo Von?

  Conspiracy theories?

• 1:01:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, cuz it's like, well, we love drama as humans, basically.

• 1:01:13Theo Von?

  We do.

• 1:01:13Speaker 02

  We just love fucking bad news and we love to like gossip.

• 1:01:18Theo Von?

  Yes.

• 1:01:19Speaker 02

  This is the fucking problem.

• 1:01:20Theo Von?

  It is a problem.

• 1:01:21Speaker 02

  And so conspiracy theories give people a reason to fucking gossip and like just it's just like something to do, bro. People are bored. Like I've I've never met a rich person who's doing dope shit in life that gives a fuck about any of this shit because they're just have better shit to do. That that's the problem is like people need to go get a job and have a purpose and um.

• 1:01:52Theo Von?

  We're at a point, though, I think where people can't trust mainstream media. They don't trust it. It's it's it's heavily owned by a couple of corporations. And so I think that created a lot of this space for um like just outlier investigators, outlier people asking questions when every, you know, there's that famous thing during.

• 1:02:14Speaker 02

  He he he, this this is the problem is all of it has become an entertainment product.

• 1:02:21Theo Von?

  It's all the WWE. I've been saying exactly. Everything is the WWE.

• 1:02:24Speaker 02

  So so this person who's claiming to tell the truth

• 1:02:31Speaker 02

  starts to dabble in like a little bit of like fun, fun, fun cuz it's gonna get more views. I mean, it goes back to um a lot of these people.

• 1:02:44Theo Von?

  But you understand that? I mean, you guys have done.

• 1:02:46Speaker 02

  This is why I understand it.

• 1:02:48Theo Von?

  Got it. Ah.

• 1:02:48Speaker 02

  It's cuz I do this, but but the difference is I'm not doing it on things that like affect the world and I'm not talking about missiles and Iran and fucking Israel and Charlie Kirk. I'm I'm like talking shit to Conor McGregor.

• 1:03:08Theo Von?

  Right.

• 1:03:08Speaker 02

  So I'm down to like. Entertain when it's in the entertainment world.

• 1:03:15Theo Von?

  Got it.

• 1:03:15Speaker 02

  When it's in politics, you like, people shouldn't fuck around. And so like, who is telling the truth these days?

• 1:03:25Theo Von?

  Yeah. And I wish you think with all this technology or something, there would be able to be like a truth filter. You could put over something on your phone, but then I guess it would be like, the, who, what is the arbiter of the truth? Like, it's like a lot of these like, um, AI models now, it's like, they have information that's put into them. So they're only going to spit out whatever's, whatever, you know, like, the, the information is controlled. So you're only going to get answers that are based on it. Um, one thing you said that I did want to say that I thought was interesting was during the Roman Empire, a lot of the, um, the politicians also had to fight on the battlefield. So that was one thing that I thought was really amazing about those times was like, if they were going to make choices

• 1:04:06Theo Von?

  that affected the lives of, of like, the citizens of the military, of like, the farmer who was putting down his pitchfork and picking up a sword, like, they had to be out there as leaders as well.

• 1:04:19Theo Von?

  And I feel like that's where some of your energy comes from. And so I think I, uh, I admire that concept.

• 1:04:24Speaker 02

  I think it's dope and I agree. Like, if I ever was running for office, I would also be like, super down to have an AR-15 and fucking shoot these motherfuckers.

• 1:04:34Theo Von?

  I'd have a fucking gun and a shield.

• 1:04:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, bro.

• 1:04:36Theo Von?

  Like, who has that, dude?

• 1:04:38Speaker 02

  I'm down to die, bro. I think I put that on the line with Anthony Joshua, like, I'm down for this shit, bro. But like, you're, I think you're right. It's a, that's a really good point, actually. Like, Trump should be on the front lines.

• 1:04:52Theo Von?

  Or Baron.

• 1:04:55Speaker 02

  I don't know if he's old enough yet.

• 1:04:57Theo Von?

  He might be too tall to be out there, too.

• 1:04:59Speaker 02

  He's gonna get his head clipped.

• 1:05:03Speaker 02

  Bro's a big target.

• 1:05:06Speaker 02

  He would fuck yeah.

• 1:05:07Theo Von?

  Just be.

• 1:05:08Speaker 02

  He's gotta stand out, bro. And he's good looking. And so like he's, they're gonna be like, oh yeah, that guy.

• 1:05:13Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:13Speaker 02

  Get him. I, i- i- if, if, th- this is a funny question. If, um, if aliens came to earth, what human would you want them to meet? Only could meet one human. What's human?

• 1:05:27Theo Von?

  Oh, I think.

• 1:05:30Theo Von?

  I don't know. If you send like a brother over there.

• 1:05:35Theo Von?

  Probably NBA young boy, maybe dude, I think.

• 1:05:40Theo Von?

  Because.

• 1:05:43Theo Von?

  I think that would should be.

• 1:05:49Theo Von?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:05:52Theo Von?

  Well, have you seen the, uh, that, who's that guy?

• 1:05:58Speaker 02

  You know what? I was thinking the same.

• 1:06:00Theo Von?

  Let's go, dude. And welcome to America's last brain cell. Well, I'm Theo Von and this is Jake Paul. Oh dude, what about your frickin' mom was trying to frickin' holler at me?

• 1:06:16Theo Von?

  Is that true? What was happening? Yeah, my mom. She was married.

• 1:06:20Speaker 02

  She is. Uh, they're in a great relationship. I love, um, I love my mom. And, and stepdad. Um. Ah, damn, am I only gonna get in trouble? Is this bad?

• 1:06:32Theo Von?

  And Derek, is that your stepdad? Rick, Derek?

• 1:06:35Speaker 02

  David.

• 1:06:35Theo Von?

  David. I was wondering the other day. I was like, what is his stepdad's name?

• 1:06:40Speaker 02

  Um.

• 1:06:42Speaker 02

  Okay, so this, I mean philosophically.

• 1:06:45Theo Von?

  What?

• 1:06:48Speaker 02

  Philosophically, if

• 1:06:52Speaker 02

  a woman is in a relationship for thirty years with a normal guy.

• 1:06:58Theo Von?

  For sure.

• 1:06:58Speaker 02

  And then the fucking mohawk comes out with Theo Von.

• 1:07:04Speaker 02

  She might start flirting, bro.

• 1:07:06Theo Von?

  When you see the Lord's parakeet.

• 1:07:09Speaker 02

  Exactly my point, no?

• 1:07:11Theo Von?

  You gotta fuck it.

• 1:07:11Speaker 02

  And my mom is a fuck, is the goat. She's a life maxer, so she's gonna life max and um.

• 1:07:20Speaker 02

  She's pulling up pictures.

• 1:07:21Theo Von?

  Oh yeah, that's who she is right there. That's Pam I am, boy.

• 1:07:25Speaker 02

  Bro.

• 1:07:27Theo Von?

  Pam I am, boy.

• 1:07:28Speaker 02

  Would you have done it, though?

• 1:07:29Theo Von?

  We, and by done it, what do you mean? Take her out for ice cream or a film?

• 1:07:33Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:07:34Theo Von?

  Are you talking about, like, what are you talking about?

• 1:07:40Theo Von?

  I would have taken her for ice cream out of her room early.

• 1:07:44Speaker 02

  And that's why I approve of your guys.

• 1:07:49Speaker 02

  Dude, I would. Good answer, political answer.

• 1:07:52Theo Von?

  I'd be a good stepdad, though, dude.

• 1:07:54Speaker 02

  Bro, if you were my stepdad, I'd be so happy, bro.

• 1:07:57Theo Von?

  Bro, I would.

• 1:07:58Speaker 02

  That's all I need in life, honestly.

• 1:07:59Theo Von?

  I would let y'all smoke, not in the house or something, but I would let y'all smoke.

• 1:08:03Speaker 02

  Which kind of smoke?

• 1:08:04Theo Von?

  Huh? You can smoke dope, smoke it outside. I don't give a shit. As long as you don't smoke outside of our bedroom window or something while we're trying to rest.

• 1:08:11Speaker 02

  You think my mom's hot?

• 1:08:11Theo Von?

  Huh? I think she's a beautiful lady. I like her ass.

• 1:08:14Speaker 02

  You think she's hot?

• 1:08:15Theo Von?

  I don't know.

• 1:08:17Theo Von?

  I'd have to see her again in person.

• 1:08:20Speaker 02

  She did this list for you, bro.

• 1:08:22Theo Von?

  Oh my god, she did? I think I have some photos of that. Dude, your dad was right there, I was like, what are we doing here? You know?

• 1:08:31Speaker 02

  That's my, no, they're, they're divorced, that was the. That was, that, yeah, that's not her husband that was there.

• 1:08:39Theo Von?

  Oh.

• 1:08:39Speaker 02

  That was my dad and mom, but they're divorced.

• 1:08:43Theo Von?

  Got it. Yeah, yeah, but I don't know, I think he even was like, you know? You know? I'll tell you what not to do, you know, I think he said some stuff like that to me. So I think there was like a mix of like energy there, but yeah. I know, and she's an author, I admire that, I know she just came out with a book, right?

• 1:08:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:08:58Theo Von?

  Fuck the Paulies?

• 1:08:59Speaker 02

  Fuck the Pauls.

• 1:09:00Theo Von?

  Fuck the Pauls.

• 1:09:01Speaker 02

  Yeah. Great book, by the way, for um.

• 1:09:05Theo Von?

  Fuck the Pauls.

• 1:09:06Speaker 02

  I would say like mostly um.

• 1:09:10Speaker 02

  If people have an interest in like fame and navigating it, I think it's a good book.

• 1:09:15Theo Von?

  What effect do you think she had over the years on like, did she kind of, was she ever like an orchestrator of things? Or was she just kind of like somebody who was just supporting in the distance? Like, oh, cause it's interesting how a mom reacts to like, I think their son's journey through popularity and like, cause for a while they're just their son and then they're kind of like a pseudo sibling or something to everybody in a way, you know?

• 1:09:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, I, um, definitely like supporting from afar.

• 1:09:48Speaker 02

  But

• 1:09:52Speaker 02

  like more recently, she's gotten more involved in like knowing who she is and being like, fuck you to these certain people in my life that aren't good. So she's become a more of a protector. I think at first I was, me and my brother were like teaching her. Um, and she's a very smart lady, but I think it was such a new world for her of social media. And so I think, uh, she, she always was giving her 100% best effort to help in any way possible. And that came across in different ways, but I think more recently she's, she's become, um,

• 1:10:34Speaker 02

  more of a protector and more opinionated and she knows, she has more confidence in her opinions. And I, I think that's been good for both Logan and I.

• 1:10:43Theo Von?

  Do you think that you guys' careers have allowed you to see a new side of your mom? That you are really, that makes you like have even some more unique thoughts about her? Does that make any sense?

• 1:10:58Speaker 02

  No, a hundred percent, um.

• 1:11:00Theo Von?

  Like admire her more or?

• 1:11:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's what it was is admiring her more because like I was built for this and destined for it. And

• 1:11:12Speaker 02

  You don't know if your parents are always on that same wavelength. And I think a lot of celebrities and their parents probably don't even get along or talk or are involved. Like, I see a lot of that. Um, and it turns out that she was fucking built for this and she's ready for the fire, which is gangster. And I was like, that's my fucking mom.

• 1:11:35Theo Von?

  And that's my frickin' wife!

• 1:11:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, sorry. No.

• 1:11:38Theo Von?

  That's my first date. Dude, I'm just saying, take us to an award show.

• 1:11:45Theo Von?

  But yeah, I would take her somewhere nice. Yeah.

• 1:11:47Speaker 02

  Like, what restaurant do you think her?

• 1:11:52Theo Von?

  Oh, I know where I would take her. A place that has a golf course, but we don't play golf. We're just gonna go eat there.

• 1:11:56Speaker 02

  Nice.

• 1:11:57Theo Von?

  Watch the rich people come in.

• 1:12:01Theo Von?

  Oh, there's Tom.

• 1:12:04Theo Von?

  Say shit like that.

• 1:12:05Speaker 02

  Leonard. Oh, yes. He has an institutional financial estate. Yeah, there he is right there.

• 1:12:14Theo Von?

  Yeah. He has a tramp stamp on his back, too. Don't tell anybody.

• 1:12:18Speaker 02

  He got kinda crazy one month in the fucking Hamptons. Oh, fucking Leonard's crazy.

• 1:12:24Theo Von?

  Yeah. And I would just let her drink wine and I wouldn't drink any, but I would smell her breath every now and then to get a hit of it.

• 1:12:31Theo Von?

  You know? Just to get the fucking grapes in my nose, boy.

• 1:12:34Speaker 02

  How, how, how much would you like huff it?

• 1:12:37Theo Von?

  Oh, I'd take a good.

• 1:12:40Theo Von?

  I would reverse boof it. I would put a straw in her mouth. And then just suck the fucking wine smoke out of her fucking throat. This is getting bad. Dear God. I just ordered a fucking, what am I, some kind of fucking smut?

• 1:12:53Speaker 02

  Bro, I need another whiskey blue raspberry. Can one of you fucking get it for me?

• 1:12:58Theo Von?

  Yeah, go get him one, dude. What the fuck?

• 1:13:00Speaker 02

  So, yeah, so.

• 1:13:02Theo Von?

  And there's ice in the fridge.

• 1:13:03Speaker 02

  So, so, oh, um.

• 1:13:07Theo Von?

  But no, uh, no, I think it's, I've gotten to know her a little bit of the years just by seeing her here and there. And I think her, I think her energy and, I think it's something nice when you get a chance in your life to see your mom in a different way.

• 1:13:20Speaker 02

  And I think. That's what happened.

• 1:13:21Theo Von?

  Yeah. And I think that that's, it's almost like a beautiful thing in a way. You almost get to see, just to see somebody grow into something different at some point in their life is really special, whether that's, and it can be in any way. But I think, so, so yeah, I could really imagine that that's nice.

• 1:13:35Speaker 02

  No, exactly. And, and like. A lot, I I've noticed, uh, a lot of people don't change. Or don't know how to and um evolve.

• 1:13:47Theo Von?

  Hmm.

• 1:13:48Speaker 02

  And they just like get stuck in their same patterns a- and especially when they're older. Because if you've been doing something for forty or fifty years.

• 1:13:55Theo Von?

  Hmm.

• 1:13:56Speaker 02

  You're gonna like get stuck in that rut. Um, and so to like see her change and actually be able to like evolve.

• 1:14:05Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:05Speaker 02

  Is beautiful and I I noticed it with my dad as well. He's a little bit more behind.

• 1:14:12Theo Von?

  Hmm.

• 1:14:13Speaker 02

  But he's doing it and he's doing the work um and that's beautiful.

• 1:14:17Theo Von?

  That's awesome, man. I think it's cool like whenever like um as a child you get to be a part of something like that. And see that and like I think there's a lot of like kind of like growth and moments there for ourselves and our parents. You know, uh.

• 1:14:33Theo Von?

  Yeah, being a son is an interesting responsibility when you realize that it's um not just like one of taking in a way. And I don't mean that it it just because that's how it is when you're you think it's just like this one way sort of thing.

• 1:14:45Speaker 02

  Um. It it it is like you're you're like until you're like conscious enough to not take from your parents, it really is a one way relationship.

• 1:14:57Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:57Speaker 02

  The first one one way relationship in your life. Do you do you have do you have kids or like what's going on? No, no wife.

• 1:15:05Theo Von?

  I don't have many kids. I'm not dating right now. I'm just working on myself and uh so it's been like the last year's been kind of tough. With just like um just staying on track. And then I realized I was just kind of putting myself like in the situat- like just things that uh.

• 1:15:23Theo Von?

  I wasn't like they weren't like all like rungs on the ladder towards my goal, you know? Some of them were fun rungs and things like that, but it just wasn't where I needed to be. And like some of the sobriety's been a little bit tough over the past year or so. Um, but right now I'm doing better than I've done in a long time. And uh, and so, yeah, I feel good about that. Um, I need to.

• 1:15:42Speaker 02

  It's hard.

• 1:15:43Theo Von?

  It is. I need to go.

• 1:15:44Speaker 02

  Especially for you in like your position and all of those things like people. You it's hard to find the right person that doesn't have the wrong intentions.

• 1:15:55Theo Von?

  Yeah, I feel like I'm a decent judge of that kind of stuff. I think um I'm enjoying kind of not having to date and do things like that.

• 1:16:03Speaker 02

  The problem is, is you can't judge it until it's like time. Cause people are good actors these days.

• 1:16:13Theo Von?

  Hmm.

• 1:16:14Speaker 02

  So.

• 1:16:15Theo Von?

  How did you know your girl was the right one for you?

• 1:16:19Speaker 02

  I think um.

• 1:16:21Theo Von?

  Was there like an experience y'all had together or like a thing?

• 1:16:24Speaker 02

  Being at, just being at the same level, like in terms of

• 1:16:30Speaker 02

  wealth or fame or stature. Because then you know there's like not games.

• 1:16:36Theo Von?

  Hmm.

• 1:16:37Speaker 02

  So yeah, you might have to like find a famous girl.

• 1:16:42Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 1:16:43Theo Von?

  I don't know.

• 1:16:45Speaker 02

  But they also could like understand, like.

• 1:16:50Theo Von?

  Yeah, I think.

• 1:16:51Speaker 02

  What, what, right, like, like you, you go do like a waitress girl today and you're like, Theo's like, oh. I uh had a podcast with Jake Paul and we talked about blackface and it was fucking insane and it's gonna break the internet and let's see what happens. And then she's just like, yeah, I'm a waitress. Like, do you want a shot? Like, she's not gonna understand

• 1:17:16Speaker 02

  the importance of that or you, or like what you did.

• 1:17:20Theo Von?

  I think, yeah, there could be some that, but if she goes, well, I know what you're gonna have, the black and salmon. If she said that as a joke, then I would know, okay, maybe this bitch is fucking, she has at least has a sense of humor. So a sense of humor is big for me. I do think like, yeah, there's some things, it's like, um, you also don't want to add discomfort to someone's life. I don't want to add like, if some of my like bullshit or the little things that I'm involved in, I don't want that to mess up somebody's life if, you know, like, um.

• 1:17:48Speaker 02

  But, but that's, that, that, that's also why the like famous girl would be good because.

• 1:17:56Theo Von?

  She's already like balls deep.

• 1:17:58Speaker 02

  I gotta meet one then.

• 1:18:01Theo Von?

  I will one of these days when I get back out there. Um, I saw that you and your, did you and your father do ayahuasca? Who did it?

• 1:18:07Speaker 02

  Yes, yeah.

• 1:18:08Theo Von?

  I've been there a few times, man.

• 1:18:09Speaker 02

  Ayah?

• 1:18:10Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:11Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:18:11Theo Von?

  And thank God. I mean dude, I'll even fucking talk to this bitch every now and then. So once you talk ayahuasca dude, you look at a house plant way different. You're like, how are you boys this morning, you know, huh? Ten and two, you know?

• 1:18:23Speaker 02

  Bro, I'm not gonna lie, bro.

• 1:18:27Speaker 02

  I've talked to s-

• 1:18:28Theo Von?

  Have you talked about this ad nauseam? I didn't know if you have.

• 1:18:31Speaker 02

  What about what?

• 1:18:31Theo Von?

  Hey, if you talked about this so much, I didn't even know.

• 1:18:33Speaker 02

  No, no, no, no. I ta- no, I'm saying

• 1:18:37Speaker 02

  after doing ayahuasca, I like grabbed steel sometimes or like aluminum and metal and be like, talk to it. Because it's a living object.

• 1:18:49Theo Von?

  Hmm.

• 1:18:50Speaker 02

  People don't understand that metal is a living object. So that sounds fucking insane, but like, it's no different than a plant.

• 1:18:57Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:58Speaker 02

  They're, they're atoms moving around and so I, I actually talked to the items in my house to like, give them better energy.

• 1:19:07Theo Von?

  Like, let me, let me boost your spirits today, Gus. I know you're a bookshelf. But you don't know what you're holding on to. You know what I'm saying? You've got everything. You've got, uh, the crucible right here on your back. You've got all these frigging-

• 1:19:18Speaker 02

  Oh God, bro.

• 1:19:19Theo Von?

  You've got Moby Dick.

• 1:19:20Speaker 02

  You're just carrying the bible.

• 1:19:21Theo Von?

  The b- seven bibles you have here, Bridges of Madison County?

• 1:19:24Speaker 02

  Bro, my bookshelf is tired, bro.

• 1:19:26Theo Von?

  Yeah, you've got Dunkirk on you.

• 1:19:27Speaker 02

  You gotta talk to it.

• 1:19:28Theo Von?

  You have no clue what you're doing. I like that. Yeah, but to boost up your fucking boys who are fucking carrying all your words around? I like that.

• 1:19:37Speaker 02

  I boost up everything in my house, bro.

• 1:19:39Theo Von?

  Where'd you guys, where'd you guys do it at? Did somebody come to you?

• 1:19:44Speaker 02

  I've done it like a bunch of times.

• 1:19:45Theo Von?

  Okay.

• 1:19:46Speaker 02

  Um, mostly Costa Rica.

• 1:19:50Theo Von?

  Ooh.

• 1:19:53Theo Von?

  And did your wife go too?

• 1:19:54Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:19:55Theo Von?

  Wow.

• 1:19:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, there's the video.

• 1:19:59Theo Von?

  And, oh yeah, oh yeah, dude, you got the fancy one. I did it right outside of a Popeyes over there off the 101.

• 1:20:06Speaker 02

  You just did it here?

• 1:20:07Theo Von?

  No, off the 101 in LA.

• 1:20:10Theo Von?

  You're a neighborhood.

• 1:20:11Speaker 02

  You can't do that, bro. You gotta like-

• 1:20:13Theo Von?

  Dude, the shit was popping, bro.

• 1:20:14Speaker 02

  It was good, it was good.

• 1:20:15Theo Von?

  It was popping.

• 1:20:16Speaker 02

  Okay. Okay. What was like the biggest thing you took away from it then? Like, oh dude. I ch- like-

• 1:20:26Theo Von?

  I remember, I mean, you went like a deep thing.

• 1:20:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:20:31Theo Von?

  I've, there was a point like, um,

• 1:20:35Theo Von?

  I remembered this feeling that I had when I was a kid that maybe if I was a, like, um, if I was a girl, that, uh, I would, my parents would love me more, that, that, so I was like, there was like this weird, like, like, just questioning of who I was or something. Um, I remember that, that was like a crazy thought that I had when I was a kid. Um.

• 1:21:00Speaker 02

  I mean, that, that's like a comparable thing, which goes back to like, then that they probably, probably made you feel compared or some weird shit. Like, I don't know how to psychoanalyze all of that, but...

• 1:21:14Theo Von?

  But it was something, yeah, I just thought like, maybe, uh, like, they don't see me as I am, so maybe, it was just a thought that I was a kid, well, maybe if I was a girl, they would see me. It was just, but that's kind of a crazy thought that a kid would have.

• 1:21:24Speaker 02

  And it sucks.

• 1:21:25Theo Von?

  Yeah, so things like that, and you kind of process those, like, you know, you process for like a kid feeling those things.

• 1:21:32Speaker 02

  Yep. Um, I think the biggest one for me was,

• 1:21:38Speaker 02

  uh, self-love. It was like, just like putting the mirror up of like, look at yourself.

• 1:21:47Theo Von?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:21:48Speaker 02

  And how come you don't love yourself sometimes? And in a lot of moments, I do.

• 1:21:54Theo Von?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:21:55Speaker 02

  Um, but I think that trickles out into a lot of other areas of life where, um,

• 1:22:05Speaker 02

  it can not be good. Um.

• 1:22:09Theo Von?

  Like where it turns into like, like between, where it turns into ego or where it turns into that kind of stuff?

• 1:22:13Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 1:22:13Theo Von?

  Yeah, it's scary.

• 1:22:14Speaker 02

  Yep. And, and just like...

• 1:22:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, just like even insecurity is a part of self-love. And so I've actually like really worked on it and gotten so much better at it and I I feel secure now.

• 1:22:34Speaker 02

  But I came from a place of insecurity, but it takes practice to to get there.

• 1:22:43Speaker 02

  And to find that confidence and that love and to know who you are and not give a fuck what anyone thinks because I also was like judged and in public scrutiny and all of these things since I was like 19. So I think that was the biggest thing was was self-love.

• 1:23:03Theo Von?

  Yeah, dude, I think it's funny, we're talking about this the other day in a meeting and thanks for sharing that with me. We're talking about, did your dad say any wild shit while he was in there? Was he in there fucking capping?

• 1:23:15Speaker 02

  Bro.

• 1:23:15Theo Von?

  He's like, her name was Janet. Was he just yelling shit in there or whatever?

• 1:23:20Speaker 02

  Bro, I literally had to.

• 1:23:21Theo Von?

  Because that's crazy, bro, to sit there with your with one of the people that created you and to be on that journey, that seems wild to me. Was it like that or was it not like that? It just seemed like two buddies.

• 1:23:31Speaker 02

  It wasn't, it wasn't. I had to, um, I realized the like sweetest thing about my father is that he's a protector and he's a fucking warrior. And he was so high off of Iweska that he was like trying to like figure out where his fiance was and like protect her and he thought that like people were like trying to attack her. And there was no one there and he was just like, I need to get, I need to protect, I need to do this, I need to do this, so.

• 1:24:09Theo Von?

  He's like installing fucking security systems.

• 1:24:12Speaker 02

  He was, he turned into fucking secret service. But.

• 1:24:18Theo Von?

  There he is right there, bro.

• 1:24:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, there he is.

• 1:24:21Theo Von?

  Drinking soup through his head.

• 1:24:24Theo Von?

  Fucking out of his dome, bro.

• 1:24:26Speaker 02

  So it's really interesting, though, like.

• 1:24:28Theo Von?

  Get a spoon, honky. Sorry. That's my mom driving by just telling me to brush my teeth.

• 1:24:33Speaker 02

  Um, so, so.

• 1:24:35Theo Von?

  Was his mind blown if he'd never done anything like that?

• 1:24:38Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 1:24:40Speaker 02

  Alright, so, um, he had a stroke before this and, um, before ayahuasca and, um,

• 1:24:51Speaker 02

  I've always been into psychedelics because I'm in this sport where you get fucking hit in the head and there's science around mushrooms creating neurogenesis as, as well as, uh, toad five, five MEODMT.

• 1:25:06Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:25:06Speaker 02

  I'm friends with Brian Johnson. I was just.

• 1:25:08Theo Von?

  He just did it.

• 1:25:10Speaker 02

  Yeah. I, I like,

• 1:25:14Speaker 02

  relate to him in that sense. I've done it like 10 times. Um, and so, uh, I basically like told him at some point to do it

• 1:25:27Speaker 02

  as a science thing. Um, and

• 1:25:35Speaker 02

  th- these things are like actual magic in the world and, um, people don't understand their significance and how profound they are and how much healing can be done and when you talk to these people from the Sonoran tribe who are like masters in the toad and that's where they like originated it, um, it cures Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, all of these things. The list goes on and on and on. Um, and

• 1:26:14Speaker 02

  it's actually like shielded from.

• 1:26:18Speaker 02

  There's a reason why it's illegal in the United States. Because of big pharma.

• 1:26:25Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:26:25Speaker 02

  And etc.

• 1:26:26Theo Von?

  Big Pharma sucks, dude.

• 1:26:27Speaker 02

  We can go down that rabbit hole, but.

• 1:26:30Theo Von?

  Well, there's a law, they're trying to pass a law right now in, uh, that they're allowing ibogaine in, um, in Tennessee and, uh, and they need to pass it. They, it's something, all these, all these plant medicines need to be, they need to be approved.

• 1:26:43Speaker 02

  Hundred percent.

• 1:26:44Theo Von?

  Now, people don't need to be buying them out of a fucking, like, a, one of those, like, skill crane machines or something like that at a Pizza Hut or whatever, you know?

• 1:26:52Speaker 02

  But, but, but, but it's fucking wild that

• 1:26:58Speaker 02

  you could just go to any local place here, five minutes away, and get fucking double Moscow Mule.

• 1:27:05Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:06Speaker 02

  But you can't do something that's actually good for you. What does that say about our leaders?

• 1:27:12Theo Von?

  I agree.

• 1:27:13Speaker 02

  Pharma, about insurance, all of these things, so, and there's, there's no one's ever fucking done toad or mushrooms and like, done something bad.

• 1:27:26Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:27Speaker 02

  But you've seen hundreds of times where the alcoholic is shooting up a place and killing people and beating his wife. So like, what the fuck are we doing as a society? It's, it's ass backwards. It's sad.

• 1:27:43Speaker 02

  And.

• 1:27:45Theo Von?

  I agree. I mean, I just, yeah, I think it's awesome that you are such a proponent of that, man. Cause that's a big thing that's going on right now. I think, when is that bill? Can you look that up for me? The Helping Open Pathways to Effective Treatment Act, HB 2075, is under consideration in the 2025-2026 legislative session. The bill would not legalize ibogaine for general use. Instead, it would create a state framework for FDA-supervised clinical trials targeting opioid use disorder, co-occurring substance disorders, PTSD and related brain injury conditions, funded via a public-private matching grant structure. I'm a proponent of that. Are you? Thousand percent.

• 1:28:22Speaker 02

  Amen.

• 1:28:23Theo Von?

  There you heard that.

• 1:28:24Speaker 02

  Um.

• 1:28:25Theo Von?

  Fucking vote.

• 1:28:25Speaker 02

  Let's fucking vote. Vote for toads.

• 1:28:30Theo Von?

  Bro.

• 1:28:31Speaker 02

  We love frogs.

• 1:28:32Theo Von?

  Um.

• 1:28:32Speaker 02

  And toads.

• 1:28:34Theo Von?

  Did your relationship with your dad change after or no? Or was it just kind of another?

• 1:28:38Speaker 02

  Okay, so that, I mean, so, um, there's like a really interesting thing that happened to him.

• 1:28:44Theo Von?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:28:45Speaker 02

  Um, when you know the like ayahuasca experts, they've like seen everything.

• 1:28:52Theo Von?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:28:53Speaker 02

  And my dad had a stroke and you could viscerally see a difference in he, how he talked and acted.

• 1:29:03Theo Von?

  Hmm.

• 1:29:03Speaker 02

  He like wasn't there. It was like lights on, no one's home. Like sixty percent, not full on, but it was sad. And I was like, yo, like,

• 1:29:16Speaker 02

  talk to a bunch of people, blah, blah, blah. Let's do ayahuasca. So, um, he basically

• 1:29:25Speaker 02

  did it and what the shamans were saying was the, and what they could feel. They're experts at this shit, by the way, and it's not bullshit. They don't give a fuck, bro. Like, they live in the middle of the fucking jungle in fucking Peru. They were just like, I could tell his spirit was cut and

• 1:29:47Speaker 02

  his, during this experience, his spirit came back to him. And.

• 1:29:54Theo Von?

  Hell, yeah.

• 1:29:57Speaker 02

  Like, since that day, he's just been normal again.

• 1:29:59Theo Von?

  No way.

• 1:30:00Speaker 02

  Yeah. So.

• 1:30:02Theo Von?

  No, noticeably.

• 1:30:04Speaker 02

  Everyone notices it. And everyone was worried before it, like,

• 1:30:10Speaker 02

  they were like, yo, like, he's kind of. I don't want to use the R word.

• 1:30:15Theo Von?

  Right.

• 1:30:15Speaker 02

  Cause I would never say ret or fat, but like.

• 1:30:18Theo Von?

  I don't say it.

• 1:30:19Speaker 02

  No, me either.

• 1:30:20Theo Von?

  I'll spray paint it on your wall.

• 1:30:22Speaker 02

  I'll never say it.

• 1:30:24Theo Von?

  Yeah, but I'm not saying it.

• 1:30:26Speaker 02

  But he was like low key retired and.

• 1:30:30Theo Von?

  Well, that's not even, yeah, that's fine.

• 1:30:31Speaker 02

  It brought him back. So.

• 1:30:35Theo Von?

  Damn. And imagine that dude. Imagine you just, somebody rolls into like a learning disabled class, which I was in. And I was in, yeah, I was in there for not a long time, but I did a little bit of time in there and. Imagine somebody rolls in there one day and the next day that classroom opens up. And kids can be healed. I think there's a lot of healing in this stuff. Related psychedelic evidence right there on, this is on perplexity. Uh, DMT ayahuasca's key active component is under phase one trials for stroke safety and recovery potential. With preclinical data indicating brain healing via neuroplasticity.

• 1:31:10Speaker 02

  Wow. So, so this is science, right? And there's a big problem with science and. Yes, it's that.

• 1:31:21Speaker 02

  Everything is like documented and like experiment and like measure, measure, measure. And there's a good side of that, but.

• 1:31:30Speaker 02

  Bro, these fucking people have been doing psychedelics for thousands of years and have reported studies.

• 1:31:39Speaker 02

  Human to human, they're not fucking scientists, but they have. The human to human conversation of like, yo, this actually worked.

• 1:31:49Theo Von?

  Right.

• 1:31:50Speaker 02

  Um, and so that's not going to be on fucking.

• 1:31:52Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:31:53Speaker 02

  Perplexity.

• 1:31:53Theo Von?

  Well, it's not some gooner in a lab wearing fucking Keds who's fucking doing all this shit, you know? We're talking about real, yeah, people that are in the woods who have been doing, they know what's going on.

• 1:32:02Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 1:32:02Theo Von?

  It's, it's crazy how we've gotten so far away from like all this bullshit. Like how we got so far away from all these like real healing methods that had been alive for thousands of years.

• 1:32:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:32:11Theo Von?

  And then we got into this just like Bear Monsanto fucking. Bullshit where we're all just addicted to stuff and it's ruining people's lives. And then now we're getting back out of that. I feel like we're getting back out of that faster than ever though.

• 1:32:25Speaker 02

  Do you feel that?

• 1:32:26Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:32:26Speaker 02

  I think, I think.

• 1:32:27Theo Von?

  I do, I do, I do.

• 1:32:28Speaker 02

  And.

• 1:32:29Theo Von?

  Cause we trusted our government. We trusted that these, that the EPA and FDA, all these things were taking care of us. We, but now it's like, fuck, they're making us sick. There's a healthcare that doesn't want to take care of it. It's like, it's, it's, it's been a, it's been a road.

• 1:32:42Speaker 02

  Yes. And like, the best thing is that, um,

• 1:32:49Speaker 02

  social media removed the barriers for information, knowledge. Um, and anyone can say whatever they want. And I find that the truth is like,

• 1:33:09Speaker 02

  it, I, I don't find, I know that the truth is like resonating more. So people like understand more about health psychedelics.

• 1:33:16Theo Von?

  Yeah.

• 1:33:17Speaker 02

  Peptides, love, relationships, authenticity. There's a reason why like certain celebrities are like falling off is because they're just like, oh, you're fake as fuck. We don't like you. So I think it's a good thing. It's a great thing. And it, it almost goes back to like freedom of speech. But like, imagine freedom of speech with marketing behind it.

• 1:33:50Theo Von?

  Yeah, I think it's like, um, I do, I, you can hope that we're in a new revolution of some sort. You know, that's always a nice hope to have, I find. Um, dude, let's talk about some of these fights, dude. Uh, who had the dumbest trunks on that you fought? You thought, you're like, this fucking guy, I'm knocking this guy out just because of the trunk.

• 1:34:14Theo Von?

  Was there anybody that's like, I can't?

• 1:34:20Speaker 02

  I'm not gonna lie, bro, like Ben Askren. I fucking love the guy. I donated to his double lung surgery, but like, bro, he just doesn't have any steez. Like, he's the most like vanilla, like dumbass white guy who just like got told what to wear. Bro, it's, I don't even remember it until you pulled up this photo, but like, bro, he looks like a fucking idiot.

• 1:34:49Theo Von?

  He just wore kind of like, um, trunks from the, um.

• 1:34:52Speaker 02

  You, like, you literally just, like, found him at a local store.

• 1:34:57Theo Von?

  Yeah. It's, he always had this, he, there was always an energy during that where it seemed like he'd just kind of woken up earlier.

• 1:35:05Theo Von?

  You know? Um, and blessings to him, he's doing much better now. Um, dude, so what about, uh, MVP, you guys have host, you guys have, um, promoted like 30 fights now?

• 1:35:19Speaker 02

  Okay. You're, you're teaching me this information, so thank you.

• 1:35:24Theo Von?

  Um, how was that been as a promoter? How, has it been different than you thought it would be? What's been like, what if, what is some of the energy going on with that?

• 1:35:32Speaker 02

  Um, yeah, like we came into the game and, um, this was like,

• 1:35:42Speaker 02

  I saw boxing as like taxi and we were Uber. Um, and it was just like so obvious and we operate as like a startup and me and my business partner don't need money.

• 1:35:58Theo Von?

  Who, Jiwoo?

• 1:36:01Speaker 02

  I just think it's funny. No, this is Nikisa.

• 1:36:05Theo Von?

  Okay, sorry.

• 1:36:06Speaker 02

  He's from Iran, um.

• 1:36:10Speaker 02

  Jiwoo, Jeff's gonna love this shit. He's gonna watch it and be like, oh, fuck, yeah.

• 1:36:14Theo Von?

  Jiwoo it.

• 1:36:16Speaker 02

  Jiwoo it. Yo, that's good. Jeff, I think you should change your Instagram. Jiwoo it. Um, so me and Nikisa have money from other shit and don't need to do it. And that's why our motto is always like fighter first and, um.

• 1:36:37Speaker 02

  That's, that's actually like very important. So when you start there, where you like fighter first and operate as a startup, we like instantly took over and resonated with fighters and are clearly the best to work with and make our fighters the most amount of money and give them the highest percentage of the fights, etc. Um, but on top of that, if you like, just wanna talk analytics, like coming into the game, I have a hundred million followers or something like that. Wow.

• 1:37:14Speaker 02

  And the second biggest promoter is Dana White with like thirty. So I'm like three times bigger than him. Is that y'all's biggest competition then? Is it, uh, is there another boxing? I guess there's Zuffa, there's, Zuffa's new. Yeah, they just started and they're already making like a lot of mistakes and are, are quite, quite basic. Um, and yeah, like you don't wanna pay Connor Ben fifteen million dollars to do an easy ass fight against Regis, um,

• 1:37:55Speaker 02

  right off rip because

• 1:37:59Speaker 02

  your whole UFC model

• 1:38:02Speaker 02

  is paying fighters like one-third of that max and

• 1:38:09Speaker 02

  Do you think it sets a tough precedent for them? Exactly. They already fucked up, like bad. Um, maybe if they were to like buy us or partner with us, they would like have

• 1:38:21Speaker 02

  such a better outcome, which I truly believe. Could you see a world where you're a partner? I'm, I'm open to it. Yeah. Yeah. Buy, buy us. Like we'll help you guys not be idiots. Um, you, you, you would, the amount of money you would spend, like I don't have an ego, bro. I'll work with anybody. But Dana's a very smart guy. I mean, Not smart enough.

• 1:38:45Speaker 02

  What makes you say that?

• 1:38:48Speaker 02

  Just look at what he's doing. Like, you don't, you don't not, not pay your fighters? Bro, you like, you don't get Jon Jones on the White House card? First of all,

• 1:39:02Speaker 02

  Justin Gagey is gonna lose to Ilya on the White House card.

• 1:39:08Speaker 02

  So you have a Spaniard beating a white American on the patriotic White House card? Like, okay, big mistake, first of all. Second of all, why are you not gonna pay Jon Jones?

• 1:39:24Speaker 02

  Do you think it was a financial thing with him? Bro, this is like, one of the most profitable sports organizations in history. Their, their investors have gotten greedy, they're in control, they, um, they are looking at the P and L's and being like, yo, like, we can just keep pumping this shit. And they're not, they're not, they forgot their heart as a company. That's the problem. And so, um,

• 1:39:57Speaker 02

  it's, it's dying. And also, MMA is not like, uh,

• 1:40:05Speaker 02

  I'm always gonna speak the truth and I'm, I'm, I'm partners with Netflix on MMA event, so. Well, I know you guys have that, you guys have that event coming up. But MMA hasn't stood the test of time. Because the best people in the sport

• 1:40:21Speaker 02

  become wrestlers and they just like, hold on. What do you mean, like CM Punk, you mean? There's a lot of great fighters in the. No Khabib, Cosmo, like. Oh, they become wrestlers, I see, like, ground game guys. Exactly. Not like WWE guys. Which is boring, no one wants to watch that. There is a level of. So it hasn't stood the test of time. Yeah. Boxing has been around since the 1500s. MMA is 30 years.

• 1:40:49Speaker 02

  And it's declining and also because it's not ran properly and they're becoming greedy and it's like a super corporate organization uh where they're signed with Paramount. They have stockholders. It's a part of the WWE. Ari Emanuel, public company, blah, blah, blah. So when they're paying fighters like 15% of the revenue, by the way, down to 10%, uh, the investors are gonna be like, yeah, we're gonna make more money.

• 1:41:24Theo Von?

  Is it down to 10%? Do they change it?

• 1:41:26Speaker 02

  It's, it's going down.

• 1:41:28Theo Von?

  So you're just, you're assuming that it is.

• 1:41:30Speaker 02

  The NFL pays their athletes 50% of the revenue.

• 1:41:35Theo Von?

  Got it.

• 1:41:36Speaker 02

  So if the NFL makes a billion dollars, the athletes make 500 million.

• 1:41:41Theo Von?

  Got it.

• 1:41:41Speaker 02

  And the UFC, it's 150 million out of a billion. But when you exclude Conor McGregor and John Jones from that, it becomes like five zero, like 5%, 50 million out of a billion.

• 1:41:58Theo Von?

  Because they make less, you mean? The overall gross is less. So then the percentage is less.

• 1:42:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, because that number factors in the super fights where.

• 1:42:07Theo Von?

  Um, I am a UFC fan and I've just enjoyed being associated there. I have so much fun over there. It's such an interesting thing. Um, you know, some of the business side I don't know about, but I, it does feel like, here's what I hear people say, the cards have gotten uh, not as interesting, right? Cause there's more cards. But you also hear people say that, um, like my sponsor was saying this morning, he's saying, dude, I love that I can just turn on Paramount and that the UFC is on there every week. So I think there's like, you know, there's different avenues to go down with it. And I think that sports.

• 1:42:35Speaker 02

  What is Paramount? Like, who has that? Do you have one?

• 1:42:39Theo Von?

  I don't know. Yes. Yes. I don't know if I do.

• 1:42:43Speaker 02

  That's what I'm saying.

• 1:42:44Theo Von?

  Yeah, I might. I probably do. I don't.

• 1:42:47Speaker 02

  I, I think, I think I have one, but like, I don't know. That's what I mean.

• 1:42:51Theo Von?

  So, but I think.

• 1:42:52Speaker 02

  Like, if they were like gun to head, gonna shoot you, login, probably gonna figure out the login, bro.

• 1:43:00Theo Von?

  That's true.

• 1:43:01Speaker 02

  So.

• 1:43:01Theo Von?

  That's fucking, bro, that's a great game show, dude.

• 1:43:07Speaker 02

  Log in death.com.

• 1:43:11Theo Von?

  Alright, today we fucking something you pull him in blindfolded, he's like, motherfucker, you got 30 seconds to get into Spotify premium.

• 1:43:19Speaker 02

  Everyone would die.

• 1:43:21Theo Von?

  He gets to call his wife, you get one call, but that person can't look it up.

• 1:43:29Speaker 02

  You bitch. I thought you knew this, honey.

• 1:43:32Theo Von?

  Damn it, Stephanie.

• 1:43:34Speaker 02

  You're the one that.

• 1:43:35Theo Von?

  What is it?

• 1:43:36Speaker 02

  You're the one.

• 1:43:37Theo Von?

  Wizard 60, what is it?

• 1:43:41Theo Von?

  You guys are co-promoting the new MMA card that's on Netflix.

• 1:43:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, so that's the whole thing is like, bro, why are you laughing?

• 1:43:49Theo Von?

  Bro, look at this is, this is crazy though, bro. Was there another opportunity for Nganu to fight someone else? I mean, I know that Linz is kind of a new name to a lot of people.

• 1:44:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, but he, he's, he's, um, uh, very fucking good. It's, it's a more dangerous fight for him than, um, who do we have as the other opponent?

• 1:44:15Theo Von?

  It should be Nganu versus damn Bigfoot if y'all could find him.

• 1:44:20Theo Von?

  People would watch that shit.

• 1:44:23Speaker 02

  We had a, we had a, I forget who the fuck it was, we had a different name.

• 1:44:30Speaker 02

  Who was a bigger name and easier fight for him, so. As Francis is, you know, we joke around and fight blah blah, marketing, but like, respect to him for, for doing this and, um, it's a very challenging fight, so it's gonna be fun and, and Diaz versus Perry, like, it's just gangster. Gangster, bro.

• 1:44:55Theo Von?

  We just had, uh, actually Nate Diaz on, this is before we knew that you were coming on and he was on, like, it hasn't even come out yet, but he did talk about this something, um, pull up the clip that he had talked about, he talked about some of the.

• 1:45:08Speaker 02

  Fight, fights between us?

• 1:45:10Theo Von?

  Yeah, he talked about a couple of things here, let me see what we got in here.

• 1:45:13Speaker 05

  I'm not fighting for MVP, I'm fighting for Netflix and I'm fighting from Real Fighting Incorporated, which I'll probably be. Doing next with Netflix anyway, Real Fight Entertainment on a thing and show you how to throw a real MMA fight show. I've been in the UFC for 20 years now. So I'm like, yo, I'm gonna do that. From Real Fighting with, you know, I'm not working for fucking MVP like all these other motherfuckers are. I'm a UFC fighter. I'm working for me, for Real Fighting, and I'm hunting Jake Paul's motherfucking ass.

• 1:45:52Speaker 05

  Not taking a fight with a guy who's on the comeback. Man, fuck Conor will fight again when the time is right and it's time to fight. But it's gonna be when we both on the uprise, not, not when someone's dying out. The whole fighting, even like Paul, I feel like I beat Paul.

• 1:46:09Theo Von?

  A lot of people felt that way.

• 1:46:10Speaker 05

  But it was his, like, big show, so it's like, okay, all right. But I know, I know from experience, I ain't winning no decisions, even if I do. So, watch that fight over and read the punch count in your own count without somebody else's. I won that fight too.

• 1:46:25Theo Von?

  What do you think there, Jake? And that was Nate.

• 1:46:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, I, I, I never say the word [BLEEP]. I think it's like, super offensive. I would never say it.

• 1:46:47Speaker 02

  When, when you see someone that's [BLEEP], like, it's just hard to, like, comprehend what they're saying. And, um, I'm gonna take like a business, higher level, I'm gonna take the high road.

• 1:47:02Theo Von?

  Okay.

• 1:47:03Speaker 02

  Because he technically is working for my company, and he's trying to deny it in that clip.

• 1:47:15Speaker 02

  And I'll just leave it there because I don't care about that. I want MMA to grow.

• 1:47:25Speaker 02

  But yes, technically, like, he's, he's literally lying. I don't work for him. Okay. That, that's fine, bro. Like, whatever your ego wants. I'll bend down to it for now because MMA is going to prosper. And you, Nate, should just not lie. And, yeah, fuck, like.

• 1:47:53Theo Von?

  Do you think he's lying about the part about him thinking that he won?

• 1:47:57Speaker 02

  Oh, that, that's, that's, that's.

• 1:48:03Speaker 02

  I, I, I don't address stupidity.

• 1:48:09Speaker 02

  Like, that, that's the most bizarre part about it, but like, I don't have time to address stupidity. Do you? Cuz, cuz then you give it more momentum. And maybe I'll do it just, just this one time, but like, the judges said I won every single round. So if it was like a close fight, that would be a different convo. But this guy was like, easy work, lightest puncher I've ever fought.

• 1:48:39Theo Von?

  Is that true, you just saying that?

• 1:48:41Speaker 02

  On my mom's life, rest in peace, strike her down, God. Nate Diaz is, is the, is the lightest and worst puncher I've ever fought. He's the toughest. And he took the most damage, but in a sport.

• 1:49:00Speaker 02

  That's, it's not something to brag about. Like, I'm the toughest. Bro, people, people, people come up to me and they're like, you're so tough. You took shots from Joshua. I was like, this, I don't want to be complimented like this.

• 1:49:13Theo Von?

  Right.

• 1:49:16Speaker 02

  I don't want to be tough. That means you're just getting beat up.

• 1:49:20Theo Von?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:49:21Speaker 02

  Like, the fuck?

• 1:49:23Theo Von?

  Yeah, yeah, that's a good point, dude. I don't want to be tough.

• 1:49:25Speaker 02

  Bro, any boxer is tough, sucks. No, I'm joking. But like, my coaches told me this early on, they're like.

• 1:49:34Speaker 02

  This is not a tough sport. This is a mental sport.

• 1:49:39Theo Von?

  Um, do you feel like you owe Nate or one of the other UFC guys an MMA bout? Does that, does any of that weigh on you sometimes?

• 1:49:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, I, I, I want Nate in MMA. And, and I think it's

• 1:49:53Theo Von?

  Good bout.

• 1:49:54Speaker 02

  Yeah. I think, I think it's, it's high on my list of priorities to do that.

• 1:50:01Theo Von?

  And what's the toughest, like, kind of, uh, like barrier to entry to getting that done? Is it just the time it would take to get more prolific in some of that ground game and stuff? And, and, and jujitsu?

• 1:50:13Speaker 02

  No, no, it's, it's just the business side.

• 1:50:15Theo Von?

  Got it.

• 1:50:18Speaker 02

  He probably wants a certain amount of money to take the risk in losing to me.

• 1:50:28Speaker 02

  And yeah, I just don't give a fuck. I have enough money. I got all my shit. So, um,

• 1:50:36Speaker 02

  that, that's why these guys are actual ducks is because you can't like hide behind money anymore.

• 1:50:45Speaker 02

  So, yeah, I, I, I think, I think it's gonna happen though. And, and I expect if, if he beats Perry, then me versus Nate is probably the number one thing on the list. Like above Tommy Fury, above Francis Nganu, above, above KSI.

• 1:51:06Theo Von?

  Do you think he could beat Perry?

• 1:51:09Speaker 02

  I think he will. Yeah. I think he'll take him down and submit him.

• 1:51:16Speaker 02

  What do you think?

• 1:51:19Theo Von?

  That's such a dogfight, dude. Mike Perry's, first of all, the fight, they're two of like really the most beloved outlier guys that like, um, they're just such both unique guys and they kind of

• 1:51:34Speaker 02

  No, like

• 1:51:34Theo Von?

  They do things their own way. I mean, I'm just, I'm trying to evade the question. Uh,

• 1:51:39Speaker 02

  What's the program you have with the charity?

• 1:51:43Theo Von?

  It's the program for the, it's for like, uh, parents, parents of autistic children, giving them like a day off.

• 1:51:51Speaker 02

  Yeah. So like, that, that's why this fight is awesome is like their parents are both gonna get hella days off.

• 1:52:04Theo Von?

  Yeah, yeah, I mean, I don't see it, but yeah. Um.

• 1:52:10Speaker 02

  So you think they're smart? Like, you would classify Nate Diaz and Mike Perry as smart? And by the way, that's secluded from aut-

• 1:52:22Speaker 02

  Like, autistic people are the smartest people in the world, but like, I'm just obviously joking, but do you think they're fucking smart?

• 1:52:28Theo Von?

  I think they got the toughest fucking autism that there exists. I wish I had that touch gloves autism, you know?

• 1:52:37Speaker 02

  If they were starting a company, would you invest in it?

• 1:52:40Theo Von?

  That's crazy, bro. That's a crazy thing to act somebody in during the daytime.

• 1:52:48Speaker 02

  Pretty sure it's like six.

• 1:52:50Theo Von?

  I think, dude, uh, I would, it depends on what kind of business it was, I think. If it were like a dog catching business?

• 1:53:01Theo Von?

  Fuck, yeah, bro.

• 1:53:02Speaker 02

  Or brain rejuvenation business.

• 1:53:05Theo Von?

  Yeah, yeah, dude. I think, well, yeah, if it's like, yeah, doing taxes and shit, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Now, if it's just finding, yeah, if it's just fucking,

• 1:53:18Theo Von?

  if it's fucking getting your money back from somebody down the street business? Then take my money, fellas, you got it, I'm in, dude.

• 1:53:29Theo Von?

  There's a female-

• 1:53:32Theo Von?

  We gotta get done with it.

• 1:53:33Speaker 02

  No, we don't, we don't.

• 1:53:34Theo Von?

  Yeah, we do, dude.

• 1:53:36Speaker 02

  Bro, you know how much, you know how many clips we've pumped out of this shit? We're gonna be on Twitter for like nine days straight.

• 1:53:44Theo Von?

  It's fucking ridiculous, dude. God, I gotta get some fucking help. That's the number one thing I say to myself every day, dude, is I gotta get some help.

• 1:53:55Theo Von?

  Rousey Corona, what do you feel about this bout, dude? Corona's been out for a while.

• 1:53:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think, um-

• 1:54:01Theo Von?

  Was it tough to make that the lead bout? Was there a purpose in that? Like a reason behind it?

• 1:54:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, we're like proponents for women, mostly like putting them on the forefront. And I genuinely like believe that-

• 1:54:18Speaker 02

  Women's boxing is so entertaining.

• 1:54:24Speaker 02

  They're shorter rounds and they just like fucking go at each other and I think they have a chip on their shoulder. So it becomes more entertaining than like a 12 round Floyd versus De La Hoya where they're just like fucking tapping each other for 12 rounds and everyone's disappointed.

• 1:54:46Speaker 02

  So yeah, that was, that was part of the purpose and um, and that's MVP W. That was part of a group you guys launched? Yeah, we, yeah, so my comedy is MVP, uh, and then, and then we have MVP W, which is like women's.

• 1:55:02Speaker 02

  That, that side of things. And were you searching for your fighters? How are you going to populate this to have good bouts?

• 1:55:09Speaker 02

  Like, has that become a concern? Cause a lot of people are under UFC contracts. No, it's the opposite. So, so um,

• 1:55:17Speaker 02

  like, we have all the best women's signed to us. For boxing? Yeah. Okay. I mean, now MMA, I guess as well, like starting in MMA, but mostly boxing. The, the, the beautiful thing about it is that um, we can make the mega fights happen because we know both sides of the party and. But will you, will, will they be able to fight in UFC? Will, will people under your banner be able to fight in UFC or Netflix's? Thing if they keep this going or are they separate? No, no, no, no. Um,

• 1:56:02Speaker 02

  yeah, we're like a completely separate from the UFC. Got it.

• 1:56:10Speaker 02

  And a competitor. So, so it's actually like,

• 1:56:16Speaker 02

  UFC's with Paramount,

• 1:56:19Speaker 02

  MVP's with Netflix. Okay, I got it now. Yep. Dang dude, that's wild, bro. Congratulations, man. Yeah, thank you. Congratulations dude, it's in, you know, like um, watching you is a, is an interesting sport.

• 1:56:36Theo Von?

  You know, and I mean that in a lot of like really.

• 1:56:38Speaker 02

  So that, so it like increases your heart rate to watch me?

• 1:56:41Theo Von?

  Probably does, which is okay.

• 1:56:43Speaker 02

  It's a sport.

• 1:56:44Theo Von?

  I mean, it just like, uh, you know, yeah, like it's, there's, there's admiration because you, you know, you kind of, you defy the odds or you re, you, you kind of like, I don't know, you can, I don't know what it is. It's interesting and it's, it's fun. And it's interesting to see a guy who's fighting and is also in the business side. I think there's just a lot of stuff to see you be a business guy is, uh, is, is, it's all interesting, dude. It's judgmental.

• 1:57:17Speaker 02

  No, I, I would, um, I would agree. And, um, I think I, I, I wrote like a little

• 1:57:27Speaker 02

  stupid fucking thing to put on my Instagram. Yeah. That I think can like summarize me a little bit. Um, I think it's like super fucking gay to talk about it, but, um.

• 1:57:41Theo Von?

  You want me to read it?

• 1:57:43Speaker 02

  Like, we might not put this part in.

• 1:57:45Theo Von?

  Okay.

• 1:57:45Speaker 02

  But like,

• 1:57:49Speaker 02

  it, it kind of summarizes what you're saying.

• 1:57:51Theo Von?

  Okay.

• 1:57:51Speaker 02

  So, uh, life became unrelatable, so it's easy to become hateable. I live in truth, so my views are undebatable. Life's become approvals and payables. Funny how I was the only one who knew I was capable. Now anything in life is available. Only because I can't, became unbreakable.

• 1:58:17Speaker 02

  Once in a generation beyond occasional. Send all the pressure, please. God is protecting me. I'm gravitational.

• 1:58:28Speaker 02

  I hope you don't hate and use it as motivational, but honestly, this shit is not sustainable or very attainable. Have to manage it with Ivy League occupational. Horror lady over there. I post more content than you, but I'm still untraceable. I hate to be cocky, but at this point, it's educational. This is who the fuck I am. It's not recreational. You probably could, but if we're being honest, you are not capable. So again, that's why I'm hateable. Is he a politician? Investor, rapper, boxer? It's unexplainable, and that's why I'm inescapable.

• 1:59:13Speaker 02

  So I think that's like what.

• 1:59:14Theo Von?

  Dude, I fucking really like that. I think, and you know what? Yes, that's what I was trying to say.

• 1:59:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:59:23Theo Von?

  And it is.

• 1:59:25Theo Von?

  And it is, man.

• 1:59:26Speaker 02

  And you know the sad part about it is that like people are gonna like, um, clip that and then and but but that's why I'm saying it's like sad. That they're gonna clip it and be like, bro, thought he cooked.

• 1:59:40Theo Von?

  No, we're not saying that you are, um, what's that guy's called? Ghana or whatever? We're just saying that you I that you explained exactly what I was thinking. And that's, and I agree.

• 1:59:51Speaker 02

  That's why, that's why I brought it up. Otherwise, I wouldn't have. But but but the sad part is that people are gonna clip it and be like.

• 2:00:01Theo Von?

  But people are also fricking touching their own dicks all the time. So people are disgusting.

• 2:00:06Speaker 02

  You don't touch your own dick?

• 2:00:07Theo Von?

  Jerking off is gay, dude. You're jerking a dude off. Yeah, it's you.

• 2:00:14Theo Von?

  But it's still a dude, bro. Fuck that. Now some chick rolls up with a cock. Maybe I'll help her out. You feel me? BLM, dude.

• 2:00:24Speaker 02

  Um, so you love Thailand?

• 2:00:27Theo Von?

  Never been. I haven't even looked at. I haven't even gone there on like one of those like, um, map zoom in views, like view, street views or whatever. Do, uh,

• 2:00:37Theo Von?

  your brother just had a child. Do you get competitive with him? Like, do you start to think about that yet? Or you guys aren't really kicking that can around at the moment?

• 2:00:45Theo Von?

  Because once wife got that gold, bro, you know what I'm saying? You could hatch something.

• 2:00:50Theo Von?

  And sorry, that's just something I read recently on a, on a headstone in Memphis. So I was just like.

• 2:00:55Speaker 02

  Hatch something?

• 2:00:56Theo Von?

  Yeah, once wife got that gold, you could hatch something, you know, that's just like.

• 2:01:00Speaker 02

  Someone else's wife got gold?

• 2:01:02Theo Von?

  I don't know. No, I just mean somebody might have got a gold grill put in or something. It could mean anything. I've read it. Yeah.

• 2:01:08Speaker 02

  You're right. Um, no, it's inspiring. Yeah.

• 2:01:12Theo Von?

  Has it inspired you? Has it been interesting to see him be a dad? Like, is that different?

• 2:01:16Speaker 02

  It's, he's a fucking loser now.

• 2:01:22Speaker 02

  Logan, bro, you go to bed at 10:00 PM like, he used to be cool and like kick it and like drink and smoke with us and then

• 2:01:33Speaker 02

  he just like goes to bed at 10:00 PM. But honestly, bro, I'm so happy for him. Like, this is what's needed. Like, he's amazing. Um, and he's a great dad. It's just like funny because, and again, I would never use the word, the R word, but like, when, when, um, he's walking down the beach with his, um, kid and I'm like, bro, this is my brother. Like, he's fucking retarded and he's like carrying the baby down the fucking beach and he like got it on his shoulder. I'm like, bro, what the fuck is going on? It's just, it's just funny. Um, but I'm, I'm so happy for him and Esme is like the coolest thing in the world and yeah, she, she's like 18 months and, um,

• 2:02:21Speaker 02

  I, I like went to hang out with her the other day and like, we don't see each other a lot because we're always busy. Logan's traveling. We like, whatever. But, um, she's looking at me

• 2:02:35Speaker 02

  and I'm like saying hi to her and she goes,

• 2:02:40Speaker 02

  Jake! And she says my name for the first time. I was like, bro.

• 2:02:46Speaker 02

  Game over.

• 2:02:47Theo Von?

  That's cool.

• 2:02:48Speaker 02

  I was like, I started like getting teary eyed and like, this is the craziest thing ever.

• 2:02:55Theo Von?

  Has it brought your family overall closer together?

• 2:02:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, a hundred percent.

• 2:02:58Theo Von?

  Isn't that amazing?

• 2:02:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:03:00Theo Von?

  It's crazy how something like that, when we first had it, my first niece, it like, it was like the first time we were a family, it felt like in some ways.

• 2:03:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, I would agree.

• 2:03:10Speaker 02

  I, I think, and, and Nina, by the way, is, is such a great mom. She's doing such a great job and she, um, like sends videos and pictures to us every day.

• 2:03:24Theo Von?

  Oh, that's sweet of her.

• 2:03:25Speaker 02

  And so, like shout out to Nina for, for fucking being amazing on that side of things.

• 2:03:31Theo Von?

  Yeah, it's nice. It keeps you involved, makes you feel like a part of it. That's important.

• 2:03:34Speaker 02

  Yep. And they do this thing where it's like outfit of the day and like, uh, Esme like loves it and she like knows, even though she can't talk really, she like puts on her outfit and then Nina like films her coming out of the room with the outfit and like hypes her up and then Esme like loves it and is like, she like knows that it's like some important moment. Um, so it's really fucking beautiful, like little shit like that.

• 2:04:10Theo Von?

  Yeah, stuff like that. Yeah. Stuff like that, that makes you feel kind of connected. It's awesome. Shout out to Nina. That's beautiful and congratulations to them. It is exciting. That baby looks so happy, huh?

• 2:04:23Speaker 02

  Happiest baby ever, I think.

• 2:04:25Theo Von?

  Really?

• 2:04:26Speaker 02

  Bro.

• 2:04:26Theo Von?

  That's the blessing.

• 2:04:28Speaker 02

  I get these videos every day and she's just like happiness maxing.

• 2:04:33Theo Von?

  Dude, when you get some cap ass baby, that shit's fucking trash.

• 2:04:38Speaker 02

  Honestly, like, that's the problem is you can't return it.

• 2:04:43Theo Von?

  You gotta fucking remodel that bit.

• 2:04:45Speaker 02

  Coupon.

• 2:04:46Theo Von?

  Put some fucking Fendi on that bitch or something. You gotta do something, bruh. Cause they got some cap ass children out there.

• 2:04:52Speaker 02

  They gotta redo the genetics type shit.

• 2:04:56Theo Von?

  Um, blessings to them. Man, Jake, thanks for coming and hanging out, dude.

• 2:04:59Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 2:05:00Theo Von?

  I appreciate it, bro. I've just enjoyed getting to talk to you. This is most you and I've ever talked and I, I think it's like, yeah, you just get a different concept of people. It's hard to know people until you talk to them. Dude, Brian Johnson, I thought that that guy was gonna be like, he was gonna show up like in bubble wrap or something.

• 2:05:16Theo Von?

  Fucking drinking his own cum or something. Bro, bro. Sorry. You know he's had a little. Wait, but by the way, what I'm saying is dude, he was a, he was like, just as, it just like, it's just interesting until you get to know somebody, you're right. We live in this place where we assume things based on what we see. It's all, it's all, uh, interesting and some of it's our, some of it's our fault and some of it is a place of where we are. Um, it's interesting though. You know, I, I killed him.

• 2:05:48Theo Von?

  The other day. Did you really? Yeah, I killed him.

• 2:05:52Theo Von?

  He'll be back.

• 2:05:54Theo Von?

  Oh, you put him asleep? Wow, he's supposed to go to bed at 4:30 PM anyway. I killed him.

• 2:06:02Theo Von?

  Hell yeah. Bro, this dude is up for anything, bro. No, no, no. Like, he's dead. Oh damn, okay. Well, I don't know. So like, I, I kind of fucked up the don't die movement, but like, he's, he, he's such a great guy, but I had to kill him. I kind of feel ya. You know, he is that neighbor that's out in the front yard, fucking boiling his own blood and shit.

• 2:06:31Theo Von?

  I love that guy. He's a genius, but like, bro, I'm, I'm, I'm Jake Paul. I had to go viral. Oh yeah, bro. So I had to kill him. Dude, yeah. It's for the game. Yeah. See that shit for sure, dude. R I P Brian Johnson, bro. Yeah. See you at the crossroads, homie gang. Thanks Jake.

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